Now for Some Fine Finger-Picking: Donovan Raitt, “Black Is the New Black” [VIDEO]

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“Black is The New Black”
Written and Performed by Donovan Raitt
From the 2019 album “Water and Light”
Tuning: C# G# C# E B D#

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:07:11am

Why I’m staying in today…

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:15:00am

Had a totally non-hostile conversation with Trumper brother yesterday that’s partly because it was just the two of us because my sister was not available and I carefully focused only on coronavirus, with only a few barbs. He is absolutely convinced that the Trump administration handled everything right, that the Chinese were responsible for concealing information (that part is true), and that a million test kits are being sent out now.

What it would take for Fox to turn on Trump — maybe Hannity and Laura and Jeanine becoming ill? Still spewing lies almost every second of the day.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:16:58am
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jaunte  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:17:50am

This is just absurd. How did Ben Shapiro ever get a reputation as a “thinker?”

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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:17:54am

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:19:15am

re: #4 jaunte

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This is just absurd. How did Ben Shapiro ever get a reputation as a “thinker?”

Same way Paul Ryan became a “policy wonk” in the eyes of the “liberal media.”

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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:21:09am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:21:46am

re: #3 Charles Johnson

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Bernie did this to himself when he said he could win with a plurality. I’m getting sick of the anti democratic bullshit from the so called only grassroots campaign.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:23:01am

re: #3 Charles Johnson

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It’s the “can’t fail, can only be failed” mindset. It’s not that Bernie is running a shit campaign or is showing a total lack of leadership, it’s that people are actively plotting against him and spreading lies about his supporters. Hence why every Berner confronted about the toxicity of their support whining about “Russian bots!” as being the culprits.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:23:15am

re: #6 Targetpractice

Same way Paul Ryan became a “policy wonk” in the eyes of the “liberal media.”

He wants to be our generation’s Buckley so bad but he’s an ignorant little con artist who just screeches leftism at anything that doesn’t fit his narrow vision of economics.

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retired cynic  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:23:36am

OK, this is old, from 2017, but I just found it now, so there (on kos):

Ruth Bader Ginsburg shuts down Gorsuch’s extremist mansplaining with one sentence

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:24:21am

re: #9 Targetpractice

It’s the “can’t fail, can only be failed” mindset. It’s not that Bernie is running a shit campaign or is showing a total lack of leadership, it’s that people are actively plotting against him and spreading lies about his supporters. Hence why every Berner confronted about the toxicity of their support whining about “Russian bots!” as being the culprits.

He’s a terrible leader. In ten years, the college kids that supported him will wonder wtf they saw in him.

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retired cynic  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:25:27am

And Margaret Sullivan is slowly becoming one of my go-to columnists. She’s media columnist for WaPo, and doesn’t mind naming names.

The media is blowing its chance to head off an Election Day debacle

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:26:37am

re: #12 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

He’s a terrible leader. In ten years, the college kids that supported him will wonder wtf they saw in him.

Yeah, one of the groups that I’ve seen taking these morons behind the woodshed has been former Ralph Nader supporters.

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ericblair  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:27:23am

re: #7 Charles Johnson

1. Trump’s administration is radically mishandling coronavirus.
2. The government should have complete control over healthcare.

I think it’s supposed to be a false dichotomy, which is obviously dumb in itself, but it doesn’t even make sense that way. You can certainly handle something properly that you don’t have total control over; that’s called “management”. They’re fucking up what they’re supposed to be responsible for and we know this.

Shapiro’s another stupid person’s idea of a smart person.

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Belafon  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:28:43am

re: #4 jaunte

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This is just absurd. How did Ben Shapiro ever get a reputation as a “thinker?”

Because the bar on the Right is really low.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:29:31am

re: #14 Targetpractice

Yeah, one of the groups that I’ve seen taking these morons behind the woodshed has been former Ralph Nader supporters.

I was a teenage Dennis Kucinich supporter as I’ve told it here before. It’s the same grift though Dennis never was as bad as Bernie about donations.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:30:24am

re: #4 jaunte

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This is just absurd. How did Ben Shapiro ever get a reputation as a “thinker?”

You can thank WorldNetDaily and Joseph Farah for that one.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:30:24am

“Trump administration” should really be shortened to “Trump,” as story after story keeps coming out that he either personally intervened…or his underlings purposefully sabotaged their own efforts to avoid his ire. Mix in the strong possibility of cronyism and corruption and you have a toxic soup that totally undermines the idea that government “should be run like a business.”

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:31:19am

re: #7 Charles Johnson

“The government should have complete and absolute control over everyone’s healthcare!” said no Democrat/Liberal/Socialist ever.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:31:48am

re: #15 ericblair

I think it’s supposed to be a false dichotomy, which is obviously dumb in itself, but it doesn’t even make sense that way. You can certainly handle something properly that you don’t have total control over; that’s called “management”. They’re fucking up what they’re supposed to be responsible for and we know this.

Shapiro’s another stupid person’s idea of a smart person.

I have an old friend- we’ve been friends close to 30 years who was loving him some Ben Shapiro. He easily falls for manipulative bullshit. He’s good at what he does but he’s one of the last people who I respect as a serious thinker about current events.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:35:47am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:36:08am

Compare and contrast headlines:

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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:36:09am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:36:29am

re: #4 jaunte

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This is just absurd. How did Ben Shapiro ever get a reputation as a “thinker?”

See: Ryan, Paul.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:36:49am

re: #4 jaunte

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This is just absurd. How did Ben Shapiro ever get a reputation as a “thinker?”

he is good at rhetoric and winning arguments on the Internet

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:37:54am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:38:20am

re: #24 Charles Johnson

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It’s sick seeing members of the media push this.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:39:31am

re: #27 Dr Lizardo

BREAKING: Oregon Governor Brown declares state of emergency due to coronavirus

“Liberal State Governor Continues to Spread Anti-Trump Panic Hoax”

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:44:38am

re: #22 Charles Johnson

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The follow-up question that needed to be asked was what Bernie expected to happen if he did get the nomination with only 30% of the vote. The obvious answer is what he expected to happen was the Dem electorate would grit their teeth and vote for him in November for lack of any other option if they wanted Trump gone. Which really demonstrates just how fucked a Bernie administration would have been, getting nothing done because his impulsive action when facing any sort of resistance from Congressional Dems would have been trying to pit his base against them.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:45:22am

re: #29 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“Liberal State Governor Continues to Spread Anti-Trump Panic Hoax”

Yeah, that’s certainly what the RWNJ’s will think of it.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:45:43am

re: #8 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Bernie did this to himself when he said he could win with a plurality. I’m getting sick of the anti democratic bullshit from the so called only grassroots campaign.

Thoughts by three people smarter than me:

- He’s not entitled to running in a crowded field. And if he can’t win in a small field, he doesn’t deserve to win.

-If Sanders can’t even win the majority of Democrats how can he expect to win in the general election?

-Hillary beat him by close to 4 million votes in the primary, so seems ridiculous to claim, as the Sandernistas do, that he’d have won the 2016 election.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:49:18am

Well, well, well……

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:50:30am

re: #12 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

He’s a terrible leader. In ten years, the college kids that supported him will wonder wtf they saw in him.

If they even remember him at all.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:53:25am

re: #32 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

Thoughts by three people smarter than me:

- He’s not entitled to running in a crowded field. And if he can’t win in a small field, he doesn’t deserve to win.

-If Sanders can’t even win the majority of Democrats how can he expect to win in the general election?

-Hillary beat him by close to 4 million votes in the primary, so seems ridiculous to claim, as the Sandernistas do, that he’d have won the 2016 election.

One further thought..my own

Just because you could squeak by with a 30% win, why not use that as a backup plan while you reach out to everyone?

Sounds kind of lazy and amateurish not to bother with the inclusive approach

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 8, 2020 • 11:57:34am

re: #35 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

One further thought..my own

Just because you could squeak by with a 30% win, why not use that as a backup plan while you reach out to everyone?

Sounds kind of lazy and amateurish not to bother with the inclusive approach

A career as a back bencher implies that he is/was not interested in getting things done. Lack of effort, lack of energy, or possibly lack of ability to see that the perfect solution is not obtainable in the current political environment. (Or all of the above since being a vocal gadfly is pretty simple to do once you have a safety cocoon to remain in office.)

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:04:02pm

re: #33 Dr Lizardo

Well, well, well……

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while this is true, there’s a fatal flaw in their argument:

“It’s one thing for Trump to insist he had a ‘perfect’ phone call and have all his Republican minions fall in line. It’s another thing to downplay a growing epidemic as more and more Americans get sick,”

it’s not merely that in the first instance no one was hurt and in the second Americans are getting sick.

the first sentence basically says, as long as trump can manipulate the truth and bury reality then this tactic is ok

when proof of reality slaps us in the face, then it’s not so hot

well subpoenas, witnesses, documents etc would have laid bare the lie we all know he and the admin has told re Ukraine

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CarolJ  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:04:20pm

re: #36 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

It also assumes that nobody wants to make a deal and get themselves past 30%.
It also would have needed another system of allocating delegates. A Super Tuesday result where the highest state you got was say, 14% means you are hopelessly locked out of delegates. Why would you stay in? And if you can only get a non-competitive number of them, why not also quit and throw them to someone you would prefer to win?

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:05:34pm

re: #28 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

It’s sick seeing members of the media push this.

Liz Breunig and her husband are pretty hardcore Bernie folks, iirc.

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I Don’t Take Responsibility At All (dangerman)  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:05:57pm

re: #36 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

A career as a back bencher implies that he is/was not interested in getting things done. Lack of effort, lack of energy, or possibly lack of ability to see that the perfect solution is not obtainable in the current political environment. (Or all of the above since being a vocal gadfly is pretty simple to do once you have a safety cocoon to remain in office.)

You got down in one

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:08:37pm

re: #36 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

A career as a back bencher implies that he is/was not interested in getting things done. Lack of effort, lack of energy, or possibly lack of ability to see that the perfect solution is not obtainable in the current political environment. (Or all of the above since being a vocal gadfly is pretty simple to do once you have a safety cocoon to remain in office.)

Bernie’s a backbencher because he only cares to be “right.” You ever have that one argument where everybody is in agreement in principle if not on the details, but there’s one asshole who insists that only his viewpoint is “right”? That’s Bernie to a T, where the rest of the field agrees on greater government involvement in healthcare even though they’re arguing over the details, while Bernie won’t hear anything less than government being the healthcare provider. He never expected to win the argument so much as he expected to be the only guy left when the dust settled.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:09:31pm

re: #39 Barefoot Grin

Liz Breunig and her husband are pretty hardcore Bernie folks, iirc.

Yes.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:11:15pm

re: #41 Targetpractice

Bernie’s a backbencher because he only cares to be “right.” You ever have that one argument where everybody is in agreement in principle if not on the details, but there’s one asshole who insists that only his viewpoint is “right”? That’s Bernie to a T, where the rest of the field agrees on greater government involvement in healthcare even though they’re arguing over the details, while Bernie won’t hear anything less than government being the healthcare provider. He never expected to win the argument so much as he expected to be the only guy left when the dust settled.

I think most of the people who support him are ignorant about what the President actually does and he’s okay with co-signing off on that when he makes increasingly outlandish promises.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:11:42pm

Bernie is sort of the polar-opposite of Trump in one way: His reasoning is not about ego but about principle. Trump will refuse all day to say that his viewpoint is wrong because to admit such would be a blow to his ego. Bernie doing the same will be because admitting he’s wrong would mean admitting that his entire system of belief is wrong.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:13:11pm

re: #44 Targetpractice

Bernie is sort of the polar-opposite of Trump in one way: His reasoning is not about ego but about principle. Trump will refuse all day to say that his viewpoint is wrong because to admit such would be a blow to his ego. Bernie doing the same will be because admitting he’s wrong would mean admitting that his entire system of belief is wrong.

Very true.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:13:17pm

re: #37 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

while this is true, there’s a fatal flaw in their argument:

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it’s not merely that in the first instance no one was hurt and in the second Americans are getting sick.

the first sentence basically says, as long as trump can manipulate the truth and bury reality then this tactic is ok

when proof of reality slaps us in the face, then it’s not so hot

well subpoenas, witnesses, documents etc would have laid bare the lie we all know he and the admin has told re Ukraine

Yeah. I do agree with one thing the article points out - Trump’s natural tendency to try to bullshit his way through problems is going to end up in an absolute debacle. There are some things in this world that you simply cannot BS your way through.

And it’s looking like the COVID-19 pandemic is one of those things. Of course, Trump’s deranged supporters seem to have convinced themselves that it’s all some kind of hoax….and I can only presume they’ll maintain that inexplicable attitude to their last, labored breath.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:13:20pm

re: #4 jaunte

I admit I am extremely envious of him, in that he somehow makes what seems to be a comfortable living by doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING except expressing stupid opinions. *I* can do that! I do it every day but somehow I’m not raking in the dough-re-mi.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:16:59pm

re: #37 #thegreatpoolpondconversion (dangerman)

while this is true, there’s a fatal flaw in their argument:

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it’s not merely that in the first instance no one was hurt and in the second Americans are getting sick.

the first sentence basically says, as long as trump can manipulate the truth and bury reality then this tactic is ok

when proof of reality slaps us in the face, then it’s not so hot

well subpoenas, witnesses, documents etc would have laid bare the lie we all know he and the admin has told re Ukraine

The only reason Trump gives a damn about the pandemic at this point is because efforts to ignore it have led the markets to shit the bed. If the markets were still humming along and hitting daily milestones, he wouldn’t have even bothered with appointing a “committee” to address it. Hell, he probably would have just started firing anybody who spoke of it publicly, as is his track record when they try to force him to deal with things he wants to simply ignore.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:18:25pm

re: #46 Dr Lizardo

Yeah. I do agree with one thing the article points out - Trump’s natural tendency to try to bullshit his way through problems is going to end up in an absolute debacle. There are some things in this world that you simply cannot BS your way through.

And it’s looking like the COVID-19 pandemic is one of those things. Of course, Trump’s deranged supporters seem to have convinced themselves that it’s all some kind of hoax….and I can only presume they’ll maintain that inexplicable attitude to their last, labored breath.

My brother is a deranged supporter but he does recognize that this is serious and the disease is not a hoax. However, he still believes whatever Trump says. He’s bought in to the idea that the COVID-19 will vanish in the spring and then return in the fall — and that’s because Trump said so. He believes that Trump protected from a more widespread outbreak because of measures to stop air traffic to China a few weeks ago. I’m not sure what it will take for him to see the truth.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:21:27pm

re: #49 Hecuba’s daughter

My brother is a deranged supporter but he does recognize that this is serious and the disease is not a hoax. However, he still believes whatever Trump says. He’s bought in to the idea that the COVID-19 will vanish in the spring and then return in the fall — and that’s because Trump said so. He believes that Trump protected from a more widespread outbreak because of measures to stop air traffic to China a few weeks ago. I’m not sure what it will take for him to see the truth.

Hard to say at this point.

And with that, I’m going to bed…..up early for work tomorrow. Have fun, Lizards.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:22:23pm

re: #49 Hecuba’s daughter

My brother is a deranged supporter but he does recognize that this is serious and the disease is not a hoax. However, he still believes whatever Trump says. He’s bought in to the idea that the COVID-19 will vanish in the spring and then return in the fall — and that’s because Trump said so. He believes that Trump protected from a more widespread outbreak because of measures to stop air traffic to China a few weeks ago. I’m not sure what it will take for him to see the truth.

Let me guess, he also thinks that the markets are just overreacting to the “hoax” and will recover once they realize that Trump’s unparalleled leadership means that this outbreak will be no worse than the annual flu season, right?

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:22:38pm

re: #49 Hecuba’s daughter

My brother is a deranged supporter but he does recognize that this is serious and the disease is not a hoax. However, he still believes whatever Trump says. He’s bought in to the idea that the COVID-19 will vanish in the spring and then return in the fall — and that’s because Trump said so. He believes that Trump protected from a more widespread outbreak because of measures to stop air traffic to China a few weeks ago. I’m not sure what it will take for him to see the truth.

Well, the widespread outbreak is building as we speak. Maybe as Rome burns and DT blusters, more will become clear to him.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:22:51pm

re: #48 Targetpractice

The only reason Trump gives a damn about the pandemic at this point is because efforts to ignore it have led the markets to shit the bed. If the markets were still humming along and hitting daily milestones, he wouldn’t have even bothered with appointing a “committee” to address it. Hell, he probably would have just started firing anybody who spoke of it publicly, as is his track record when they try to force him to deal with things he wants to simply ignore.

Let’s be fair here — the markets would probably be reacting this way anyway because of the impact the virus is having around the world. It is remotely possible that if the pandemic team had not been disbanded in 2018 there might have been early measures that could have prevented the spread worldwide BUT given the Chinese delays in handling this, a worldwide pandemic was still the likely outcome.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:23:07pm

Pete Buttigieg’s senior comms adviser:

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:26:45pm

re: #13 retired cynic

And Margaret Sullivan is slowly becoming one of my go-to columnists. She’s media columnist for WaPo, and doesn’t mind naming names.

The media is blowing its chance to head off an Election Day debacle

I have no doubt that Trump will claim the election was rigged and will try to stay in office if he loses.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:26:45pm

re: #53 Hecuba’s daughter

Let’s be fair here — the markets would probably be reacting this way anyway because of the impact the virus is having around the world. It is remotely possible that if the pandemic team had not been disbanded in 2018 there might have been early measures that could have prevented the spread worldwide BUT given the Chinese delays in handling this, a worldwide pandemic was still the likely outcome.

That’s certainly true, but the bloodletting might have been minimized if the administration gave some indication that it was taking the threat seriously and looking to minimize the disruption to the supply chains. Instead, all the market has seen is an executive in total denial and the efforts to assuage market skittishness amounting to the “in case spending down, flood the market” routine that does nothing to address those worries about supply.

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Belafon  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:31:15pm

Ha:

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:32:18pm

Hate to break it some fools but SOROS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS PANDEMIC!

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Belafon  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:32:55pm
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Jay C  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:33:17pm

re: #55 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I have no doubt that Trump will claim the election was rigged and will try to stay in office if he loses.

Which he would probably try to do even if he lost by an Alf Landon-level blowout….

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Semper Fi  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:33:29pm

re: #55 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I have no doubt that Trump will claim the election was rigged and will try to stay in office if he loses.

Provided there ‘is’ an election. Trump is probably working on a reason to postpone.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:34:47pm

re: #61 Semper Fi

Provided there ‘is’ an election. Trump is probably working on a reason to postpone.

Rudy is working on that right now!

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:37:47pm

I work tangentially for a city government that is famous for spending public money to help billionaires buy sports stadiums that the billionaires could have financed entirely with couch cushion money. It relies heavily on tourism, especially summer tourism. In addition to the sports stadiums, most of the tourism involves people traveling to places where they will stand in long lines in close proximity to each other, and then climb into machinery whose purpose is to cause existential terror and potentially induce vomiting. Sometimes there is a large amount of water involved. It’s in the middle of a major population center with an international hub airport. The city is run by a “city manager” who resembles a Rick Perry impersonator wearing a Rick Perry costume acquired from one of those Halloween shops that pop up in empty strip mall units every October. Polyester hair and everything.

To date, staff have not been given a peep of guidance, policy, advice, or even acknowledgement of C19 and how it should be responded to. The city’s public-facing website doesn’t mention it at all, although it does have helpful tips on remembering to set your clock forward.

Le sigh. Given the way things usually work, as soon as people start dropping dead in the surrounding metro area, there’ll be a panicky, ill thought-out flailing response. The way all the city departments I’m familiar with usually respond to unforeseen circumstances is to issue several contradictory and mutually-exclusive edicts, and then proceed obviously unable to decide whether to run away, cry, shit their pants, or all three in a cascading crescendo of failure.

You know how doctors watch medical dramas and say they’re unrealistic, and lawyers watch court dramas and say they’re unrealistic, etc? City government employees watch Parks & Rec and say, yep, that’s pretty realistic.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:39:22pm

re: #61 Semper Fi

Provided there ‘is’ an election. Trump is probably working on a reason to postpone.

“I have decided it is in our national interest to delay the 2020 Presidential election until we can get the virus numbers down to zero.”

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:44:38pm

“We coulda won if we’d just held onto 30% of the vote in a crowded field!”

Considering the feeding frenzy that is the response to AOC praising a tweet from Warren, I doubt you fuckers could have even maintained that 30% through to the convention.

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Greup  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:44:47pm

re: #64 Eclectic Cyborg

Well you cant have an election if you cant have large crowds of people gathered for voting?

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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:46:32pm

This is how New York Times writers always respond to criticism. And I do mean always.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:48:15pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

This is how New York Times writers always respond to criticism. And I do mean always.

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“We’re totally unbiased and neutral, now watch as we retweet the most noxious shit from the most partisan asshole to even sit in the Oval Office! STOP JUDGING ME!!!”

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:48:30pm

re: #26 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

he is good at rhetoric Gish galloping and winning arguments with himself on the Internet

ftfy

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Disloyal Archangel  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:49:01pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:49:44pm

Joan Walsh was very clearly NOT trying to get Breunig fired. Breunig retweeted a dishonestly edited video from Trump. It’s totally valid to ask why she would do this, because she’s amplifying a fraudulent Trump attack, with no context added at all.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:50:27pm

And she hasn’t deleted that retweet, either, even though she certainly knows it was a deceptively edited video now.

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Belafon  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:51:57pm

re: #61 Semper Fi

Provided there ‘is’ an election. Trump is probably working on a reason to postpone.

As someone said, it’s 50 state elections, not one national election. Let California, New York, and Virginia decide the election.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:53:44pm

re: #73 Belafon

As someone said, it’s 50 state elections, not one national election. Let California, New York, and Virginia decide the election.

Yep.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:53:55pm

Trump has no financial interest in Cruise lines.

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Belafon  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:54:41pm

I decided to put Bernie’s hope to divide the electorate to win in a single story: dailykos.com.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:55:48pm
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:58:45pm

re: #52 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

Well, the widespread outbreak is building as we speak. Maybe as Rome burns and DT blusters, more will become clear to him.

If he is stuck to viewing Fox and only Fox then clarity might not come until Fox decides that not lying about these issues is more profitable.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 8, 2020 • 12:59:54pm

re: #53 Hecuba’s daughter

Let’s be fair here — the markets would probably be reacting this way anyway because of the impact the virus is having around the world. It is remotely possible that if the pandemic team had not been disbanded in 2018 there might have been early measures that could have prevented the spread worldwide BUT given the Chinese delays in handling this, a worldwide pandemic was still the likely outcome.

And also a possibility that the if the pandemic team had been left in place their recommendations and preliminary actions would have been overridden anyways.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 8, 2020 • 1:00:39pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

Pete Buttigieg’s senior comms adviser:

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But it’s all about the establishment being out to “get” Bernie. Of course.

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2020 • 1:03:18pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 8, 2020 • 1:03:53pm

re: #79 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

And also a possibility that the if the pandemic team had been left in place their recommendations and preliminary actions would have been overridden anyways.

So actually the only possible way to have prevented the pandemic would have been to have the person who won the plurality in 2016 take office. Let’s just pray that in 2020 the Bernie Bros won’t repeat their shtick of undermining every campaign that isn’t led by their lord and master.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 8, 2020 • 1:05:19pm
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Mar 8, 2020 • 1:05:41pm

re: #81 jaunte

Help me out.

Two crew members out of presumably dozens if not a hundred or more…
who aren’t showing symptoms?

and that indicates what, in the greater context of the ship as a whole?

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 8, 2020 • 1:06:19pm

re: #82 Hecuba’s daughter

So actually the only possible way to have prevented the pandemic would have been to have the person who won the plurality in 2016 take office. Let’s just pray that in 2020 the Bernie Bros won’t repeat their shtick of undermining every campaign that isn’t led by their lord and master.

I see no reason to hope for that given their current and 2016 behavior patterns.

I reasonably hope that by 2024 the DNC would have taken steps to scuttle the chance of this sort of quasi-independent campaign contaminating the Democratic Party nomination process for a third time.

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2020 • 1:06:21pm

re: #84 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

No one knows.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2020 • 1:07:19pm

re: #83 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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They’re pumping up hate and disgust among the people who aren’t even bothering to show up in the first place.

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2020 • 1:07:28pm

Why would two crew members not showing symptoms (like the rest of the crew is not showing symptoms) be singled out for testing?

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2020 • 1:07:50pm

re: #82 Hecuba’s daughter

So actually the only possible way to have prevented the pandemic would have been to have the person who won the plurality in 2016 take office. Let’s just pray that in 2020 the Bernie Bros won’t repeat their shtick of undermining every campaign that isn’t led by their lord and master.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Mar 8, 2020 • 1:08:15pm

re: #88 jaunte

And why would THEIR results be the criteria for whether or not they can proceed to Port Everglades?

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2020 • 1:08:28pm

re: #88 jaunte

Why would two crew members not showing symptoms (like the rest of the crew is not showing symptoms) be singled out for testing?

They apparently transferred over from the other plague ship…er, cruise liner off the coast of Cali.

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jaunte  Mar 8, 2020 • 1:08:40pm

The two crew members transferred from the Grand Princess, where 21 passengers have tested positive.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Mar 8, 2020 • 1:11:12pm

re: #92 jaunte

Clearly I’m missing something/everything.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2020 • 1:12:13pm

re: #93 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Clearly I’m missing something/everything.

Either the captain is hopeful or the city has informed him that the ship will be allowed to dock if the two test negative, as if that will somehow be proof that the virus never made it aboard the ship.

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Disloyal Archangel  Mar 8, 2020 • 1:13:22pm

Well, my U.S. travel plans have gone up in smoke.

My unpleasant experience with United Airlines’ local customer support was amended by their U.S. support, but now it looks like it was all for nothing.
The initial Tuesday morning flight to NY was operated by Lufthansa (purchased via the United website), and was canceled along with all their flights to/from Israel due to the COVID-19 outbreak. United Airlines switched the flights, and the substitute Tuesday flight is still scheduled for Tuesday afternoon. But in the past 48 hours:

- I’ve been informed by multiple sources, including airline representatives, that it’s a near certainty that I’ll face a minimum 7-day quarantine upon landing in the U.S.

- Due to the COVID-19 concerns, it seems that my return flight from San-Francisco will almost certainly end with further quarantine for 14 days on returning to Israel.

- My travel insurance policy was canceled and refunded with documentation showing this was done because of the initial flight cancellation over the COVID-19 outbreak.

- All the local insurance companies have stopped issuing travel insurance policies until further notice due to the COVID-19 outbreak.

- Our accommodation in New York was canceled on account of the presence of immuno-compromised individuals

So no traveler’s insurance, nowhere accomodation, quarantine in the US for at least half of the duration, and two weeks quarantine in Israel upon return.
And that’s if there’s even going to be a flight back in two weeks, because by tomorrow evening the Israeli government is expected to order all incoming passengers be quarantined upon arrival, with most airlines projected to halt the incoming flights.
And yet United is claiming that all is absolutely fine, so cancelling means only 50% of the purchase is refunded.

The moral of the story, ladies and gents: Avoid flights in the era of Corona.

Also, [CENSORED] United Airlines.

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mmmirele  Mar 8, 2020 • 1:14:56pm

re: #95 Disloyal Archangel

Remember, United Breaks Guitars.

United Breaks Guitars

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Mar 8, 2020 • 1:15:08pm

re: #94 Targetpractice

Durr, ok. I get it now. Instead of putting 2 and 2 together I was putting 3 and 7.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 8, 2020 • 1:15:13pm

re: #93 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Clearly I’m missing something/everything.

These were the only 2 crew members who have been definitively exposed to the virus based on their service on the previous ship; the other crew members weren’t so exposed.

ETA: Posted before seeing your later response.

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Targetpractice  Mar 8, 2020 • 1:16:27pm

At this point, I’m expecting Lady Luck to fuck with us by saying the two do test negative…but a bunch of the passengers turn up positive in coming days.

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b.d. (We're on our own, Vote!)  Mar 8, 2020 • 1:21:41pm

Ahhhhhhh we needed this relaxing cruise after all the hectic, stressful, mouth foaming we did at CPAC.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 8, 2020 • 1:22:56pm

re: #88 jaunte

Why would two crew members not showing symptoms (like the rest of the crew is not showing symptoms) be singled out for testing?

Because they transferred from Grand Princess, which is the one with the passenger who had it.

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retired cynic  Mar 8, 2020 • 1:27:56pm

re: #47 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I admit I am extremely envious of him, in that he somehow makes what seems to be a comfortable living by doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING except expressing stupid opinions. *I* can do that! I do it every day but somehow I’m not raking in the dough-re-mi.

That is driftglass’s theme song!!!

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 8, 2020 • 1:30:34pm

re: #99 Targetpractice

At this point, I’m expecting Lady Luck to fuck with us by saying the two do test negative…but a bunch of the passengers turn up positive in coming days.

Covid-19 is everywhere. Some places we know about, some we don’t. Yet. At this point we should be planning on minimizing spread, with the assumption that it is endemic in the community, and not trying to keep it out. It’s already in.

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Dread Pirate  Mar 8, 2020 • 1:34:47pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 8, 2020 • 1:40:15pm

re: #101 A hollow voice says, Guilty, guilty, guilty!

Because they transferred from Grand Princess, which is the one with the passenger who had it.

Had it been 14 days?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2020 • 1:42:46pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2020 • 1:45:38pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Mar 8, 2020 • 1:47:23pm

I have checked my stocks of toilet paper, Tabasco sauce and Famous Grouse. All are adequate so I’m pretty sure I can hold out in complete isolation for an extended period if necessary. Not for the first time, I’m sure glad I don’t need cigarettes any more.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 8, 2020 • 1:47:58pm

re: #108 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I have checked my stocks of toilet paper, Tabasco sauce and Famous Grouse. All are adequate so I’m pretty sure I can hold out in complete isolation for an extended period if necessary. Not for the first time, I’m sure glad I don’t need cigarettes any more.

Your priorities are absolutely on point. Respect.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 8, 2020 • 1:48:38pm

re: #105 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Had it been 14 days?

Not sure, but likely something around that.

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A hollow Gandalfian voice says, VOTE, you fools!  Mar 8, 2020 • 1:50:12pm

re: #108 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I have checked my stocks of toilet paper, Tabasco sauce and Famous Grouse. All are adequate so I’m pretty sure I can hold out in complete isolation for an extended period if necessary. Not for the first time, I’m sure glad I don’t need cigarettes any more.

I’m glad to be heading home so I can pick up some toilet paper before the world supply is exhausted.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2020 • 1:56:30pm

HW, you might appreciate this thread:

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 8, 2020 • 1:57:29pm

re: #108 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I have checked my stocks of toilet paper, Tabasco sauce and Famous Grouse. All are adequate so I’m pretty sure I can hold out in complete isolation for an extended period if necessary. Not for the first time, I’m sure glad I don’t need cigarettes any more.

I’ve done some minor prepping. I got 4 bags of rice, cans of beans, corn and tomatoes. I have a full pantry of canned goods. Two freezers of stuff. (Most off which I had in the pantry and freezer… The rice, etc., Is new.)

As I was so sick in January, I still have three cans (and I mean giant cans), of dried onions, celery and peppers (they’re actually prepper stuff that I didn’t know was prepper stuff…I got it because I couldn’t eat and kept throwing out dead fresh veggies so dried veggies went into the rice I made, rice being the only thing I ate for like six weeks.)

I can likely make it through The 12 weeks they’ve been throwing around.

Fun fact… Buy dried veggies and your Google ads on all the web pages you visit will show you prepper stuff. Weeee.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 8, 2020 • 2:00:02pm

I bought a bunch of chocolate to give away for Purim gifts and if there is any left over it’s enough for me to live on.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 8, 2020 • 2:05:09pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Mar 8, 2020 • 2:15:55pm

re: #112 Backwoods_Sleuth

HW, you might appreciate this thread:

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Yes thanks.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 9, 2020 • 1:03:36am

re: #33 Dr Lizardo

BOOM.

Major conservative paper wallops Trump with brutal editorial blasting his coronavirus debacle

Unless Fox News turns on him, that is not a big story.


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