The Bob Cesca Podcast: Trumps on a Plane

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Trumps On A Plane — [Explicit Content] Putin launched thermobaric rockets at a maternity hospital. Facebook sold pro-Russia ads purchased by China’s state-run TV network. Trump’s private jet had to make an emergency landing. Trump asks supporters to buy him a new one. What’s the deal with the letter Z in Russia? Tiny Trump’s rant about Russia and windmills. Congress passes $13 billion in Ukraine aid. Tiny Junior rants about Trump’s insight into dictators. Bill Barr says he’ll still vote for Trump. Truth Social is failing as predicted. Missouri Republican proposes new anti-abortion law. With Jody Hamilton and David TRex Ferguson, and music by Our New Autumn and Megan McDuffee. And more!

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522 comments
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Belafon  Mar 10, 2022 • 4:53:38pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Mar 10, 2022 • 4:56:52pm

Did you know that when not busy betraying the West, she surfs?

Tulsi Gabbard, a former Democratic congresswoman from Hawaii and 2020 presidential dark horse candidate, has long perplexed U.S. officials and observers with her seemingly inexplicable pro-Russian positions. And a new development this week is sure to reinforce the half-jokes that Gabbard is a “Russian asset”; as it turns out, her campaign took money from one.

That agent—dual Russian-American national Elena Branson, also known as Elena Chernykh—stands accused of illegally pushing pro-Russia policies in the United States for nearly a decade, at the direction of top Kremlin officials, without registering under the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA), according to a criminal complaint federal prosecutors filed this week in the Southern District of New York.

But, in all her time lobbying for Russian goals, she gave money to just one federal candidate: Gabbard.

Accused Russian Agent Gave to One Politician: Tulsi Gabbard (The Daily Beast)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 10, 2022 • 4:58:46pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Mar 10, 2022 • 5:01:01pm

re: #249 gocart mozart

When Luke Skywalker flips you the bird.

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Captain Ron  Mar 10, 2022 • 5:02:31pm
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Captain Ron  Mar 10, 2022 • 5:04:05pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 10, 2022 • 5:05:08pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 10, 2022 • 5:09:07pm
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Patricia Kayden  Mar 10, 2022 • 5:10:31pm

re: #2 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Coincidence!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 10, 2022 • 5:11:14pm
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Patricia Kayden  Mar 10, 2022 • 5:13:54pm

re: #5 Dread Pirate Ron

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Mar 10, 2022 • 5:13:58pm

2022: Tucson Dumpster Fire at Sunset

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Semper Fi  Mar 10, 2022 • 5:14:01pm

Just returned from the market. Car radio was on country/western station. The song, “Baby’s got her Her Blue Jeans On” was playing. It’s popular…heard it many times. My thoughts go, huh, singing about blue jeans again. Then, I remembered, decades ago, a song that included the words, “the dirty dishes.” Trying to remember the title…can’t seem to bring it up. Any one remember that one? Most on LGF may be too young.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 10, 2022 • 5:21:09pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 10, 2022 • 5:21:29pm

re: #13 Semper Fi

Just returned from the market. Car radio was on country/western station. The song, “Baby’s got her Her Blue Jeans On” was playing. It’s popular…heard it many times. My thoughts go, huh, singing about blue jeans again. Then, I remembered, decades ago, a song that included the words, “the dirty dishes.” Trying to remember the title…can’t seem to bring it up. Any one remember that one? Most on LGF may be too young.

Is it this one “Dirty Dishes” by Scotty McCreery:

Youtube Video

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gocart mozart  Mar 10, 2022 • 5:26:22pm
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Belafon  Mar 10, 2022 • 5:26:38pm

re: #249 gocart mozart

When Luke Skywalker flips you the bird.

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Someone should create a bot to post “gay” repeatedly to Ben’s account.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 10, 2022 • 5:26:45pm
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darthstar  Mar 10, 2022 • 5:29:00pm

Reposting from downstairs.

re: #236 William Lewis

Holy Crap!

Russian state television goes off message by denouncing Ukraine war

My favorite part:
A clearly irritated Mr Soloviyev, who owns a villa in Italy that has been seized and sanctioned by the European Union, interrupted Mr Bagdasarov.

THEY TOOK MY VILLA!

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Belafon  Mar 10, 2022 • 5:31:52pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

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Countries that have fought against nuclear powers:

North Korea
Afghanistan
Vietnam
Iraq
…

It’s not as big a threat as people think it is.

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EPR-radar  Mar 10, 2022 • 5:34:52pm

re: #20 Belafon

Countries that have fought against nuclear powers:

North Korea
Afghanistan
Vietnam
Iraq
…

It’s not as big a threat as people think it is.

Ugh. It’s painful that the US was the nuclear belligerent in all these cases. That said, the US under any president except Trump is clearly less dangerous as a nuclear-armed antagonist than Putin’s Russia.

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Belafon  Mar 10, 2022 • 5:39:30pm

re: #21 EPR-radar

Ugh. It’s painful that the US was the nuclear belligerent in all these cases. That said, the US under any president except Trump is clearly less dangerous as a nuclear-armed antagonist than Putin’s Russia.

I’m sure there are plenty of other countries that could make the list considering that there are plenty of other nuclear powers. Afghanistan also dealt with Russia. I just don’t know when the various countries went nuclear nor all the other nations they fought.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 10, 2022 • 5:39:32pm

re: #21 EPR-radar

That said, the US under any president except Trump is clearly less dangerous as a nuclear-armed antagonist than Putin’s Russia.

That’s the point. The US plays by the rules, sort of. Russia, not so much.

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Charles Johnson  Mar 10, 2022 • 5:40:12pm
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austin_blue  Mar 10, 2022 • 5:40:36pm

re: #21 EPR-radar

Ugh. It’s painful that the US was the nuclear belligerent in all these cases. That said, the US under any president except Trump is clearly less dangerous as a nuclear-armed antagonist than Putin’s Russia.

Well, keep in mind that we were the only country to use ‘em. Makes you real careful in the future. What we did in Japan may have saved us a million casualties, but we also incinerated tens of thousands of women and babies.

Makes you scared to do it again. Putin runs a country that does not live with that guilt.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 10, 2022 • 5:42:16pm
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Charles Johnson  Mar 10, 2022 • 5:44:00pm
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Grunthos the Flatulent  Mar 10, 2022 • 5:48:25pm

re: #22 Belafon

I’m sure there are plenty of other countries that could make the list considering that there are plenty of other nuclear powers. Afghanistan also dealt with Russia. I just don’t know when the various countries went nuclear nor all the other nations they fought.

Was going to note that Afghanistan struck the quinella. Then I got to wondering whether “quinella” is in widespread use. I see plenty of references online to hitting the trifecta, but not the quinella.

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austin_blue  Mar 10, 2022 • 5:48:40pm

Seventy two hours since Stonekettle last posted.

Concerned…

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austin_blue  Mar 10, 2022 • 5:50:11pm

re: #28 Grunthos the Flatulent

Was going to note that Afghanistan struck the quinella. Then I got to wondering whether “quinella” is in widespread use. I see plenty of references online to hitting the trifecta, but not the quinella.

Kind of limited to horse and dog racing, isn’t it?

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Jay C  Mar 10, 2022 • 5:50:38pm

re: #26 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wasn’t this jackwad elected in 2020 as well?

That, at least was one contest that should have been cancelled….

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 10, 2022 • 5:50:50pm

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retired cynic  Mar 10, 2022 • 5:53:46pm

re: #260 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

OH NOEZ! lol

On another note Hyundai and Kia have really turned around and are a couple of car manufacturers to watch. They are run by the same parent company and have great product lines and are looking to be 100% EV by 2026. Well ahead of the California 2035 mandate, and farther ahead than Honda’s embarrassing claim to be 100% EV by 2040.

I heard on NPR today that they are not mining lithium fast enough to keep up with the demand for batteries for electric vehicles. That’s going to cause a bottleneck.

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Belafon  Mar 10, 2022 • 5:58:41pm

re: #33 retired cynic

I heard on NPR today that they are not mining lithium fast enough to keep up with the demand for batteries for electric vehicles. That’s going to cause a bottleneck.

Maybe we’ll figure out how to properly recycle LI batteries.

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Semper Fi  Mar 10, 2022 • 6:01:19pm

re: #15 Hecuba’s daughter

Is it this one “Dirty Dishes” by Scotty McCreery:

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Video

No, but thanks. Haven’t heard this before.
I should have mentioned the song I’m trying to recall isn’t country/western, my bad. I think it was pre-Fleetwood Mac possibly in that genre., it wasn’t the title…just a few words thrown in.

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darthstar  Mar 10, 2022 • 6:01:43pm

re: #34 Belafon

Maybe we’ll figure out how to properly recycle LI batteries.

Or switch to NiCad batteries that lose their efficiency over months, not years.

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Belafon  Mar 10, 2022 • 6:01:43pm

The Mitchell’s vs The Machines is one of the Oscar nominations for best animated feature. Come to find out, it’s won quite a few awards, including the Critic’s Choice Award.

And Andrew Garfield’s a big fan, a BIIIIG fan:

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austin_blue  Mar 10, 2022 • 6:04:43pm

re: #35 Semper Fi

No, but thanks. Haven’t heard this before.
I should have mentioned the song I’m trying to recall isn’t country/western, my bad. I think it was pre-Fleetwood Mac possibly in that genre., it wasn’t the title…just a few words thrown in.

How’s this one? Dirty dishes, first line, last verse.

azlyrics.com

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Mar 10, 2022 • 6:05:27pm

re: #30 austin_blue

Kind of limited to horse and dog racing, isn’t it?

Yabbut trifecta managed to find its way from that milieu into wider parlance.

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gocart mozart  Mar 10, 2022 • 6:19:11pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 10, 2022 • 6:24:58pm

re: #29 austin_blue

Seventy two hours since Stonekettle last posted.

Concerned…

Others have posted on his FB page expressing concern. Is there some reason to worry about this? Or just that it’s out of character for him?

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austin_blue  Mar 10, 2022 • 6:27:43pm

re: #41 Hecuba’s daughter

Others have posted on his FB page expressing concern. Is there some reason to worry about this? Or just that it’s out of character for him?

Usually he’ll tell you when he’s going to be out-of-pocket.

He’s been spending a lot of time with his Cardiologist lately, so you know, concerned.

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JC1  Mar 10, 2022 • 6:31:43pm

I agree with pretty much everything he says. We’re being too timid.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 10, 2022 • 6:32:09pm

Tonight’s dinner. May your arteries harden in peace.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Mar 10, 2022 • 6:34:12pm

re: #264 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I want knocking Hyundai, it was the trucker I was mocking.

From downstairs.

Oh I know, it just reminded me of the EVs by 2026 thing.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Mar 10, 2022 • 6:37:13pm

re: #33 retired cynic

I heard on NPR today that they are not mining lithium fast enough to keep up with the demand for batteries for electric vehicles. That’s going to cause a bottleneck.

Have the lithium mining operations in the Salton Sea started up yet?

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Semper Fi  Mar 10, 2022 • 6:39:27pm

re: #38 austin_blue

How’s this one? Dirty dishes, first line, last verse.

azlyrics.com

No, checking Google is see there are many songs with those words.
After more thinking this song was probably early 70’s as I think it was popular about the time “Horse with No Name” by America was released.

Thank you,.

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retired cynic  Mar 10, 2022 • 6:41:16pm
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Amory Blaine  Mar 10, 2022 • 6:45:01pm

re: #46 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

Have the lithium mining operations in the Salton Sea started up yet?

IDK, but the lithium consumption operation has been in effect for years!

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bratwurst  Mar 10, 2022 • 6:48:58pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 10, 2022 • 6:54:51pm

jfc if the Democrats do not make attack ads of this

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 10, 2022 • 6:59:39pm

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Belafon  Mar 10, 2022 • 7:01:07pm

re: #52 The Pie Overlord!

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b.d  Mar 10, 2022 • 7:08:31pm

del

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b.d  Mar 10, 2022 • 7:10:18pm

re: #52 The Pie Overlord!

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 10, 2022 • 7:12:19pm

re: #51 The Pie Overlord!

jfc if the Democrats do not make attack ads of this

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I recall reading(?) maybe in one of the many books on the Trump presidency that the only reason Trump agreed to sell Javelins to Ukraine was that Obama refused to do so. Does anyone else recall that story?

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 10, 2022 • 7:17:10pm

re: #52 The Pie Overlord!

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 10, 2022 • 7:19:24pm

re: #50 bratwurst

After the Fast Food Wars all restaurants will be Taco Bell.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 10, 2022 • 7:20:10pm

re: #58 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Now let’s put on our sex helmets.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Mar 10, 2022 • 7:27:21pm

re: #50 bratwurst

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Тако Белл

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jaunte  Mar 10, 2022 • 7:27:25pm

“…Rich Richman, DFPS associate commissioner for child protective investigation, told the court the children weren’t immediately removed from the facility because investigators thought the person responsible had been fired.

However, several staff members were found to be allegedly responsible for the abuse of the children, some of whom were not immediately removed. A suspect has been arrested by law enforcement, and DFPS anticipates further arrests will be made.”

“DFPS did not remove all of the children until Wednesday, five weeks after the first documented report of sexual abuse.”

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jaunte  Mar 10, 2022 • 7:28:46pm
“…Dozens of facilities contracted by Texas have recently closed down or had their license revoked after racking up numerous offenses and subjecting children to dangerous and damaging environments. Child advocates and the judge have repeatedly criticized Texas officials for failing to ensure facilities are safe for kids in the state’s care. From summer 2019 to May 2021, the court monitors discovered that at least 23 children died in Texas’ long-term foster care system in shelters and facilities licensed by the state.”

Running children like a business.

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William Lewis  Mar 10, 2022 • 7:30:15pm

Not sure if this will play here. From the BBC:

bbc.com

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Mar 10, 2022 • 7:31:19pm

re: #51 The Pie Overlord!

Trump has been brought on several shows and podcasts recently so the GOP can get sound bytes for the midterms and he refuses to go along with it becuase it’s not in his mad-lib refrigerator magnets pile in his head.

Ronna McDaniel had him on to try to talk up voting for Republican candidates for congress this year and he wouldn’t do it, he rambled off into whatever he wanted to talk about at any given time and it was always about him. She kept asking him the same thing over and over and his brain would just roll a dice. “Uhhh 4…. The wall” “Uhhh 2… The China virus” “Uhhh 6… the machines are rigged.”

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Captain Ron  Mar 10, 2022 • 7:31:58pm

re: #61 jaunte

Paxton massively increased his budget for human trafficking and caught nobody. Must have totally missed this.

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jaunte  Mar 10, 2022 • 7:33:14pm

re: #65 Dread Pirate Ron

He’s focused on brown people, so the official abusers will keep doing what they’ve been doing.

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jaunte  Mar 10, 2022 • 7:35:51pm

This is what that criminal blockhead is spending time on:

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bratwurst  Mar 10, 2022 • 7:47:09pm

re: #58 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

After the Fast Food Wars all restaurants will be Taco Bell.

Protip: Next time you are craving Taco Bell cut out the middleman and drop $7 directly into your toilet.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 10, 2022 • 7:50:20pm

Youtube Video

Kung Fu Hustle came up last thread, and I’m tossing up this video because it’s a great breakdown of how the film is a love letter to Hong Kong action films and wuxia.

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Captain Ron  Mar 10, 2022 • 7:55:16pm
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Captain Ron  Mar 10, 2022 • 7:56:21pm

that driftglass tweet renders different on twitter.

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Captain Ron  Mar 10, 2022 • 7:57:05pm

maybe it’s the dark background on twitter.

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William Lewis  Mar 10, 2022 • 7:58:20pm

Couldn’t figure out how to get the instagram image to show up as the “featured image” on the page I made. So I added a picture from his Facebook taken on 3/7 of a Ukranian.

I hope you’ll check it out.

Exodus From Ukraine

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Rightwingconspirator  Mar 10, 2022 • 8:16:12pm

re: #73 William Lewis

Couldn’t figure out how to get the instagram image to show up as the “featured image” on the page I made. So I added a picture from his Facebook taken on 3/7 of a Ukranian.

I hope you’ll check it out.

Exodus From Ukraine

Ooof that’s powerful stuff. Well done.

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Rightwingconspirator  Mar 10, 2022 • 8:18:33pm

Wut?

Russia Just Made The Batshit Claim That The U.S. Is Training Birds To Spread A Ukrainian Bioweapon

thedrive.com

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Captain Ron  Mar 10, 2022 • 8:21:28pm

Russia demands Biden go after Facebook for allowing calls for violence against Putin .

LOL

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BeachDem  Mar 10, 2022 • 8:23:48pm

re: #2 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Did you know that when not busy betraying the West, she surfs?

Accused Russian Agent Gave to One Politician: Tulsi Gabbard (The Daily Beast)

You know how there are some people who make your spine tingle (not in a good way) when they’re nearby? Tulsi spoke at our convention in 2016. I had never heard of her before, and I can’t think of anything in particular that she said, but something about her totally creeped me out. I have the same feeling any time I’m in a room with Tim Scott—my first “close encounter” was in 2012—he was my rep at the time and spoke at an MLK breakfast. I was sitting at a table right in front of the dais, and he walked around while he rambled on. I had to sit on my hands to keep myself from standing up and spitting at him.

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austin_blue  Mar 10, 2022 • 8:26:42pm

67º in Austin @ 10:00. 19º in Amarillo at 10:00.

Granted, it’s a big State, but Dang! Wind chills tomorrow (gusts to 45 mph) will feel like your face is going to fall off.

Meanwhile by Monday, when SxSW will be in full swing, we will be back to 81º with Chamber of Commerce weather.

And the town will have 75,000 Badge People wandering around eating breakfast tacos.

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jaunte  Mar 10, 2022 • 8:27:42pm

re: #75 Rightwingconspirator

Could be the Luxembourgers.

eaaflyway.net

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William Lewis  Mar 10, 2022 • 8:29:38pm

re: #74 Rightwingconspirator

Ooof that’s powerful stuff. Well done.

Yeah, he’s good. Makes me realize that’s what I really wish _I_ could be doing. I’m too fat and old to be useful hefting an AK. But my Leica? Good thing I can’t afford a ticket to Poland and my passport is expired anyway.

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jaunte  Mar 10, 2022 • 8:32:33pm
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bratwurst  Mar 10, 2022 • 8:38:58pm

re: #75 Rightwingconspirator

Wut?

Russia Just Made The Batshit Claim That The U.S. Is Training Birds To Spread A Ukrainian Bioweapon

thedrive.com

Greenwald will undoubtedly be regurgitating this nonsense soon.

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jaunte  Mar 10, 2022 • 8:40:09pm

re: #82 bratwurst

Like a momma bird.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Mar 10, 2022 • 8:40:49pm

re: #64 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

Trump has been brought on several shows and podcasts recently so the GOP can get sound bytes for the midterms and he refuses to go along with it becuase it’s not in his mad-lib refrigerator magnets pile in his head.

Ronna McDaniel had him on to try to talk up voting for Republican candidates for congress this year and he wouldn’t do it, he rambled off into whatever he wanted to talk about at any given time and it was always about him. She kept asking him the same thing over and over and his brain would just roll a dice. “Uhhh 4…. The wall” “Uhhh 2… The China virus” “Uhhh 6… the machines are rigged.”

A sign of dementia, actually. He stays with the two or three topics he can remember, and moves to them no matter what anyone says.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 10, 2022 • 8:58:02pm

re: #84 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

A sign of dementia, actually. He stays with the two or three topics he can remember, and moves to them no matter what anyone says.

That seems very much on brand for him. He has always ignored questions he didn’t wish to address.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 10, 2022 • 8:59:11pm

re: #81 jaunte

How dead is Tucker’s soul?

It makes extra money appearing in The Walking Dead.

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jaunte  Mar 10, 2022 • 9:04:01pm
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KingKenrod  Mar 10, 2022 • 9:11:36pm

Aw, I’m seeing Bobbie Nelson died, at age 91. I’ve loved her piano playing in Willie’s band since I was young - it always seemed to fit his music just right. Her solo in the middle of this song is like a religious experience for me. RIP

Youtube Video

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austin_blue  Mar 10, 2022 • 9:14:50pm

re: #87 jaunte

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Well that *is* terribly inconvenient, isn’t it?

That organization he praised to high heaven is accused of routinely making money off of abusing trafficked kids.

It’s been talked about for over two years, but NOW he’s barking?

Asshole.

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Belafon  Mar 10, 2022 • 9:18:07pm

re: #78 austin_blue

67º in Austin @ 10:00. 19º in Amarillo at 10:00.

Granted, it’s a big State, but Dang! Wind chills tomorrow (gusts to 45 mph) will feel like your face is going to fall off.

Meanwhile by Monday, when SxSW will be in full swing, we will be back to 81º with Chamber of Commerce weather.

And the town will have 75,000 Badge People wandering around eating breakfast tacos.

Rockwall is right on the edge of “will we get snow tomorrow or won’t we.”

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austin_blue  Mar 10, 2022 • 9:23:09pm

re: #90 Belafon

Rockwall is right on the edge of “will we get snow tomorrow or won’t we.”

You are certainly in the crosshairs for a “wintry mix”.

Which always makes me think about the unfortunately adjacency to the “frothy mix” as a definition of “santorum”.

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JC1  Mar 10, 2022 • 9:24:21pm

4/6 today.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 10, 2022 • 9:32:09pm

Hi.

Geography dick pick.

#Worldle #48 1/6 (100%)
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worldle.teuteuf.fr

We came back late from Scottsbluff. My wife saw the doc for review of her diabetes lab tests. The doc first thanked us for wearing masks and being vaccinated, as she is immunocompromised.

She then cheered my wife, saying it’s rare I get to say someone is improving. Everything apparently is right in the middle of the test range.

The doc quipped she’d probably live another hundred years, to which my wife said “NOOOOO!”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 10, 2022 • 9:35:22pm

Definite Wordle head-scratcher for me today. I know too many five letter words again.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 10, 2022 • 9:39:43pm

re: #93 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Hi.

Geography dick pick.

#Worldle #48 1/6 (100%)
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🎉
worldle.teuteuf.fr

We came back late from Scottsbluff. My wife saw the doc for review of her diabetes lab tests. The doc first thanked us for wearing masks and being vaccinated, as she is immunocompromised.

She then cheered my wife, saying it’s rare I get to say someone is improving. Everything apparently is right in the middle of the test range.

The doc quipped she’d probably live another hundred years, to which my wife said “NOOOOO!”

Glad to hear that the doctor visit went well!

Your state also continues to do well when it comes to COVID. The death rate is among the 10 lowest in the country. But that may reflect the age distribution of your state — the average age is also among the 10 lowest in the nation and Covid mortality rate is highly age-related.

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Belafon  Mar 10, 2022 • 9:40:08pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 10, 2022 • 9:40:12pm

Utah Outcasts (7:18) comments on a political advert being run against Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-CO3)

Youtube Video

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 10, 2022 • 9:42:44pm

re: #95 Hecuba’s daughter

Glad to hear that the doctor visit went well!

Your state also continues to do well when it comes to COVID. The death rate is among the 10 lowest in the country. But that may reflect the age distribution of your state — the average age is also among the 10 lowest in the nation and Covid mortality rate is highly age-related.

I’m surprised, at least out here in the Panhandle. The vaccination rate is in the low forties, and what’s a mask or hand sanitiser?

It may also reflect the fact you cannot get a Covid-19 test unless you are suspected of the disease by a doctor or hospital.

Rapid tests remain unavailable here (we checked at Safeway and Walgreens in Scottsbluff; both say they just aren’t getting any).

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austin_blue  Mar 10, 2022 • 9:43:57pm

Well, it’s time for the rack. Sweet dreams to all of you.

Fierce dreams to everyone in Ukraine. Terrifying dreams to everyone in Russia.

Rational Response dreams to everyone in NATO.

The Ukes are the good guys. Putin is a cancerous cretin who will never stop trying to fuck NATO.

It’s obvious who we must help with offensive arms. Moscow is a yapping little dog who must never intimidate NATO like this again. Rup Rup, fuck ‘em up.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 10, 2022 • 9:47:00pm

re: #98 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m surprised, at least out here in the Panhandle. The vaccination rate is in the low forties, and what’s a mask or hand sanitiser?

It may also reflect the fact you cannot get a Covid-19 test unless you are suspected of the disease by a doctor or hospital.

Rapid tests remain unavailable here (we checked at Safeway and Walgreens in Scottsbluff; both say they just aren’t getting any).

According to Johns Hopkins, 63.35% of the state is fully vaccinated, which certainly does not include the booster.

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Captain Ron  Mar 10, 2022 • 9:48:36pm

The neighborhood great horned owl just took out something of substantial size in my back yard. Some heavy thumps, it sounded like The Rock body-slammed Hulk Hogan. My wife asks what that was, I open back door and the owl flies past my face. Nature!

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retired cynic  Mar 10, 2022 • 9:49:07pm

This one hadn’t occurred to me, but this sure makes sense.

The Real Reason Trump Hasn’t Been Indicted
politicalwire.com

Michael Stern: “Every competent prosecutor knows why Garland and the Department of Justice have not indicted Trump. I’m going to say it out loud.”

“If Trump were charged, it’s unlikely he would negotiate a plea deal. Instead, he would go to trial and make every step of the process a platform to cast himself as a victim of a vindictive Biden administration. He would use the renewed attention to spew lies about the legitimacy of the 2020 presidential election. And he would raise money, lots of money, to fund his anticipated 2024 presidential campaign.”

“But most important, despite a mountain of evidence that would convict most people many times over, Trump would not be convicted. Criminal convictions require a unanimous verdict. On a 12-person jury, there are going to be Trump supporters.”

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stpaulbear  Mar 10, 2022 • 9:49:40pm

re: #98 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m surprised, at least out here in the Panhandle. The vaccination rate is in the low forties, and what’s a mask or hand sanitiser?

It may also reflect the fact you cannot get a Covid-19 test unless you are suspected of the disease by a doctor or hospital.

Rapid tests remain unavailable here (we checked at Safeway and Walgreens in Scottsbluff; both say they just aren’t getting any).

Have you gotten your free test kits from USPS? At present, you can order two four-test kits. My second set is arriving in a couple days.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Mar 10, 2022 • 9:54:10pm

re: #93 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Hi.

Geography dick pick.

#Worldle #48 1/6 (100%)
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🎉
worldle.teuteuf.fr
The doc quipped she’d probably live another hundred years, to which my wife said “NOOOOO!”

Just so long as she outlives her enemies, amirite?

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Amory Blaine  Mar 10, 2022 • 9:56:11pm

Birds aren’t real.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 10, 2022 • 9:56:19pm

re: #100 Hecuba’s daughter

According to Johns Hopkins, 63.35% of the state is fully vaccinated, which certainly does not include the booster.

That reflects the more liberal east with the more conservative west.

pphd.org

Here in the Panhandle (plus Grant County) the vaccination rate is 44%.

We have come off the Omicron wave. The highest number of cases during the pandemic was the week of January 16.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 10, 2022 • 10:03:28pm

re: #106 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The vaccination rate in Douglas County (seat Omaha) is 72% age 5+.
experience.arcgis.com

The vaccination rate in Lancaster County (seat Lincoln) is 71.8% age 5+.
experience.arcgis.com

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stpaulbear  Mar 10, 2022 • 10:06:39pm

Lucky, but I was pretty sure it was going to be right.

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Captain Ron  Mar 10, 2022 • 10:11:31pm

re: #107 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That is not far off California.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 10, 2022 • 10:16:38pm

re: #108 stpaulbear

Took me 6

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 10, 2022 • 10:16:50pm

re: #103 stpaulbear

Have you gotten your free test kits from USPS? At present, you can order two four-test kits. My second set is arriving in a couple days.

I got the first set. I ordered the second set yesterday.

Since we can’t seem to get test kits here, we have the sets we got squirrelled away in case we find we have been exposed to someone. (That shouldn’t be a problem in my village as everyone who can be vaccinated, is. The first two people in my town were my neighbour and me. We became vaccine ambassadors and scolds before the GOP went all-in on politicising the vaccine.)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 10, 2022 • 10:22:40pm

In the category “Patriots who have died of Covid-19,” Sorry Antivaxxer added an update of a race car decal applier who was one hell of a flaming racist.

sorryantivaxxer.com

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stpaulbear  Mar 10, 2022 • 10:27:10pm

re: #111 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I got the first set. I ordered the second set yesterday.

Since we can’t seem to get test kits here, we have the sets we got squirrelled away in case we find we have been exposed to someone. (That shouldn’t be a problem in my village as everyone who can be vaccinated, is. The first two people in my town were my neighbour and me. We became vaccine ambassadors and scolds before the GOP went all-in on politicising the vaccine.)

Just start ordering a couple sets for everyone in your village so there’s a bunch to pass around…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 10, 2022 • 10:31:25pm

re: #113 stpaulbear

Just start ordering a couple sets for everyone in your village so there’s a bunch to pass around…

I can ask around. I can order them for others if they want them.

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Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2022 • 10:38:46pm

re: #43 JC1

I agree with pretty much everything he says. We’re being too timid.

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Kinzinger’s argument basically boils down to “Putin isn’t crazy enough to go nuclear if we get involved in the war militarily.” The counter-argument is that a sane man wouldn’t have started this war in the first place.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 10, 2022 • 10:47:14pm

re: #115 Targetpractice

Kinzinger’s argument basically boils down to “Putin isn’t crazy enough to go nuclear if we get involved in the war militarily.” The counter-argument is that a sane man wouldn’t have started this war in the first place.

I disagree. The problem is that Putin didn’t realize that his military was as ineffective as it appears to be; if it were actually competent, the war would be over by now. Our invasion of Iraq was ordered by sane leaders with bad judgement — this is a similar situation, except our military performed as expected. You can be evil, a sociopath, and sane at the same time. He was wrong in his evaluation of the situation, not mad.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 10, 2022 • 10:47:54pm

re: #249 gocart mozart

When Luke Skywalker flips you the bird.

Mark Hamill ‘gay’ tweet investigated after ‘people from Germany’ complain (New York Daily News, March 9, 2022)

More at the link:

The message to Hamill reads that by German law, he must be notified that Twitter had been ratted on by “people from Germany.”

He was informed the matter had been “investigated” and no disciplinary measures would be taken.

“I had no intention of violating the Network Enforcement Act & am relieved to learn that tweeting the word ‘gay’ 69 times with a rainbow emoji is NOT subject to removal under the @Twitter rules or German law,” Hamill wrote in response to the investigation’s conclusion.

It’s unclear what Twitter rules or German laws Hamill was accused of violating or how many people complained.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 10, 2022 • 11:03:20pm

I’m going to mosey away to bed. G’night, y’all.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 10, 2022 • 11:14:11pm

Brr.

Humidity 69%
Wind Speed W 15 mph
Barometer 30.11 in (1026.5 mb)
Dewpoint -3°F (-19°C)
Visibility 10.00 mi
Wind Chill -13°F (-25°C)
Last update 10 Mar 11:53 pm MST

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 10, 2022 • 11:16:57pm

Fair
5°F
-15°C

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 10, 2022 • 11:21:54pm

Where did the log out button go?

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 10, 2022 • 11:25:07pm

re: #121 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Where did the log out button go?

Ukraine

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 10, 2022 • 11:27:11pm

Now I’m really out. Updated profile to read: Running for Nebraska state senator, District 47.

Brainstorming ideas for a yard sign slogan. I’m leaning toward “Progress for the Panhandle.”

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451_Montag  Mar 10, 2022 • 11:28:46pm

New Rammstein Video

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NSFW…… But great video

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 10, 2022 • 11:31:13pm

re: #115 Targetpractice

Kinzinger’s argument basically boils down to “Putin isn’t crazy enough to go nuclear if we get involved in the war militarily.” The counter-argument is that a sane man wouldn’t have started this war in the first place.

The “red line” is generally agreed to be if Putin goes after a NATO country. But I confess, I have doubts about that.

If he does, let’s say, one of the Baltic states, how long do you think it’ll be before we start hearing, “Oh, but it’s just Estonia (or Latvia or Lithuania), yeah they’re NATO….but……..”

Regardless of the effectiveness (or lack thereof) of the Russian Army, Putin knows all he has to do is keep shouting, “I have nukes! Give me what I want or else!!” and until someone stands up and says, “LOL no, then you can kiss Nizhny Novgorod goodbye” Putin is going to continue doing this - he knows that there’s a sizeable contingent of the “peace at any price” crowd.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 10, 2022 • 11:35:08pm

Dirty Pipe Privilege Escalation Vulnerability in Linux (Goes to US-CERT)

CISA is aware of a privilege escalation vulnerability in Linux kernel versions 5.8 and later known as “Dirty Pipe” (CVE-2022-0847). A local attacker could exploit this vulnerability to take control of an affected system.

CISA encourages users and administrators to review (CVE-2022-0847) and update to Linux kernel versions 5.16.11, 5.15.25, and 5.10.102 or later.

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Targetpractice  Mar 10, 2022 • 11:37:37pm

re: #116 Hecuba’s daughter

I disagree. The problem is that Putin didn’t realize that his military was as ineffective as it appears to be; if it were actually competent, the war would be over by now. Our invasion of Iraq was ordered by sane leaders with bad judgement — this is a similar situation, except our military performed as expected. You can be evil, a sociopath, and sane at the same time. He was wrong in his evaluation of the situation, not mad.

Most of the world thought that Ukraine was going to fall in a matter of hours or days at the most. Hell, go back and look at discussions here prior to the war’s beginning, most of us (myself included) figured that Russia would roll over the Ukrainian Army and take Kyiv just long enough to install a puppet government. There would be resistance, but we did not expect it to be as large or effective as its been.

If we’d faced a similar scenario in Iraq, where we were hemorraghing soldiers by the thousands, equipment by the billions of dollars, and we’d failed to secure a major city, the war effort would have been a massive political boondoggle and even Republicans would have begun arguing for us to cut our losses and accept whatever assurances Saddam would give us that he would not pursue WMD research. We’re not Russia, we would not be engaged in a relentless air and ground campaign against civilians in order to destroy their morale and will to fight.

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 10, 2022 • 11:43:34pm

Handmaids Tale is a documentary.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 10, 2022 • 11:51:47pm
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Dr Lizardo  Mar 10, 2022 • 11:52:23pm
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Ming5000  Mar 10, 2022 • 11:58:17pm

Fuuuuuuuu… Not again. This weekend. The time change always catches me off guard. Some people seem to be aware of its impending arrival at all times.

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Ming5000  Mar 10, 2022 • 11:59:45pm

MAGA truckers are bad ass AF !

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 11, 2022 • 12:01:21am

re: #131 Ming5000

Here in the EU, daylight savings time (or “summer time”) begins on the 28th of March. We’ve still got a couple more weeks.

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Targetpractice  Mar 11, 2022 • 12:05:13am

re: #125 Dr Lizardo

The “red line” is generally agreed to be if Putin goes after a NATO country. But I confess, I have doubts about that.

If he does, let’s say, one of the Baltic states, how long do you think it’ll be before we start hearing, “Oh, but it’s just Estonia (or Latvia or Lithuania), yeah they’re NATO….but……..”

Regardless of the effectiveness (or lack thereof) of the Russian Army, Putin knows all he has to do is keep shouting, “I have nukes! Give me what I want or else!!” and until someone stands up and says, “LOL no, then you can kiss Nizhny Novgorod goodbye” Putin is going to continue doing this - he knows that there’s a sizeable contingent of the “peace at any price” crowd.

Right now we’re already straddling a line of our own, arguing that “military aid” is separate from “military support.” That shipping weapons to non-NATO countries is separate from sending in NATO troops to fight alongside or on the behalf of those same countries. We’re flying drones in Ukrainian airspace and providing real-time intelligence to the Ukrainian Armed Forces. And we maintain that argument because it gives us a buffer, a paper-thin shield against getting involved in a direct war between NATO and Russia.

Here’s a big question to consider: What if the US signals openness to using nuclear weapons against Russia over Ukraine…and the rest of NATO says “FARK NO!” We’ve discussed in past days about “What US city are we prepared to sacrifice?,” but Article 5 means the US wouldn’t be alone in going toe-to-toe with the Russkies. Either we’d drag the whole of the world into a nuclear war or we’d shatter NATO over Ukraine.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Mar 11, 2022 • 12:11:04am

re: #134 Targetpractice

“Well boys I reckon this is it: Nuclear combat toe-to-toe with the Russkies.”

Now I’m upset. I have the DVD of Dr. Strangelove, it’s in a storage bin somewhere in my garage. I thought I ripped it to mp4 format and put on my media PC, but apparently not.

Dammit.

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Teukka  Mar 11, 2022 • 12:11:21am

Fresh from a chat: The head of Russian space agency has a wild twitter

And a record…

Youtube Video

Yah. Bona fide fash…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 11, 2022 • 12:17:37am

re: #126 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Glad to see you back.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 11, 2022 • 12:19:01am

re: #134 Targetpractice

And we maintain that argument because it gives us a buffer, a paper-thin shield against getting involved in a direct war between NATO and Russia.

“Paper-thin” is right. Most Czechs I know are pretty open about this being merely the opening battle of the Third World War. Even Czech President Zeman said as much the other night on television.

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Teukka  Mar 11, 2022 • 12:23:16am

The elder guy seems to be painfully aware of the writing on the wall, but the younger guy is sickeningly gung-ho… He’s gonna have a very rude reality check one of these days…

Youtube Video

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 11, 2022 • 12:24:24am

MedCram goes into the effects of one kind of weapon apparently in use now in Ukraine:

Youtube Video

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Ming5000  Mar 11, 2022 • 12:24:37am

Even Ukrainians think the “Ghost of Kiev” thing has jumped the shark.

Commenters have identified the “Ghost of Moscow” who took down the Russian economy in one week.

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Ming5000  Mar 11, 2022 • 12:27:31am

re: #139 Teukka

“….you are driving me completely into sadness with your pessimism.”

edit add: Russians would have been completely happy with just keeping Crimea and solidifying the separatist regions. Thieves.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 11, 2022 • 12:35:17am

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 11, 2022 • 12:39:03am
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Targetpractice  Mar 11, 2022 • 1:02:02am

re: #144 Dr Lizardo

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Yeah, that’s another reason that it’s sort of hard to justify a no-fly zone at this point: Despite the civilian losses, the country appears to be holding its own and could potentially force Russia to withdraw from the war without NATO intervention.

Somehow, I think that might be the stronger precedent, that NATO can remain the “Arsenal of Democracy” that readily supports non-NATO democracies in future conflicts without getting directly involved. That the US can begin to ease back from its post as the “World’s Policeman.” And that Russia ruined itself for no appreciable gain in the end.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Mar 11, 2022 • 1:09:15am

re: #102 retired cynic

This one hadn’t occurred to me, but this sure makes sense.

The Real Reason Trump Hasn’t Been Indicted
politicalwire.com

I’ve brought up the last one about the jury here before. I don’t believe that is insurmountable but is likely difficult. Anyone on that jury will be doxxed and harassed to all hell for the rest of their lives too.

I think attempted coups should be tried before a special tribunal, but I don’t get to make that decision.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 11, 2022 • 1:09:57am

re: #145 Targetpractice

Yeah, that’s another reason that it’s sort of hard to justify a no-fly zone at this point: Despite the civilian losses, the country appears to be holding its own and could potentially force Russia to withdraw from the war without NATO intervention.

Somehow, I think that might be the stronger precedent, that NATO can remain the “Arsenal of Democracy” that readily supports non-NATO democracies in future conflicts without getting directly involved. That the US can begin to ease back from its post as the “World’s Policeman.” And that Russia ruined itself for no appreciable gain in the end.

If Russia finds itself a situation where they’re losing, I can all too easily see Putin going full scorched earth on Ukraine. I was talking with a friend yesterday, and we both kind of figured that Putin not only has some variety of messianic complex but that he’s conflated his own personal existence with that of Russia itself - “I am Russia!” is what Putin seems to be thinking. This war in Ukraine seems to have become, in Putin’s mind, an existential matter and that if he is defeated in this, then Russia itself will be defeated. Therefore, rather than confront a defeat, he will choose the path of total destruction of Ukraine.

And once he’s done with that, he’ll go after the Baltics, threatening the use of nuclear weapons and saying, “Behold Ukraine - such is your fate if you resist.”

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JC1  Mar 11, 2022 • 1:12:38am

re: #134 Targetpractice

Right now we’re already straddling a line of our own, arguing that “military aid” is separate from “military support.” That shipping weapons to non-NATO countries is separate from sending in NATO troops to fight alongside or on the behalf of those same countries. We’re flying drones in Ukrainian airspace and providing real-time intelligence to the Ukrainian Armed Forces. And we maintain that argument because it gives us a buffer, a paper-thin shield against getting involved in a direct war between NATO and Russia.

Here’s a big question to consider: What if the US signals openness to using nuclear weapons against Russia over Ukraine…and the rest of NATO says “FARK NO!” We’ve discussed in past days about “What US city are we prepared to sacrifice?,” but Article 5 means the US wouldn’t be alone in going toe-to-toe with the Russkies. Either we’d drag the whole of the world into a nuclear war or we’d shatter NATO over Ukraine.

Why do you assume that any confrontation between the US and Russia would automatically turn nuclear? I don’t think that that’s the modal outcome, especially if it’s not on Russian territory.

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JC1  Mar 11, 2022 • 1:14:35am

re: #135 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

“Well boys I reckon this is it: Nuclear combat toe-to-toe with the Russkies.”

Now I’m upset. I have the DVD of Dr. Strangelove, it’s in a storage bin somewhere in my garage. I thought I ripped it to mp4 format and put on my media PC, but apparently not.

Dammit.

I posted this on a previous thread. Reposting here since you mentioned the movie.

Here’s a video from a few years ago of Oliver Stone and Putin watching Dr. Strangelove.

player.vimeo.com

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Targetpractice  Mar 11, 2022 • 1:14:48am

re: #147 Dr Lizardo

If Russia finds itself a situation where they’re losing, I can all too easily see Putin going full scorched earth on Ukraine. I was talking with a friend yesterday, and we both kind of figured that Putin not only has some variety of messianic complex but that he’s conflated his own personal existence with that of Russia itself - “I am Russia!” is what Putin seems to be thinking. This war in Ukraine seems to have become, in Putin’s mind, an existential matter and that if he is defeated in this, then Russia itself will be defeated. Therefore, rather than confront a defeat, he will choose the path of total destruction of Ukraine.

And once he’s done with that, he’ll go after the Baltics, threatening the use of nuclear weapons and saying, “Behold Ukraine - such is your fate if you resist.”

Which sort of brings us back to what started this, which was the argument that Putin is not a sane actor in this whole conflict. If he’s willing to use everything within his arsenal up to NBCs to win wars of conquest, then he would be willing to nuke the West if we got in his way. And thus any discussion of measures such as no-fly zones are not about “if” but “when” will the nukes begin to fly.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Mar 11, 2022 • 1:18:29am

re: #147 Dr Lizardo

And once he’s done with that, he’ll go after the Baltics, threatening the use of nuclear weapons and saying, “Behold Ukraine - such is your fate if you resist.”

After completely decimating his own military in this fiasco, he won’t be able to take over a Latvian restaurant no less all the Baltic states. I don’t think he fully realizes that any plans he had to try to reform the Soviet empire are completely dead in the water now. Regardless of what happens in Ukraine, It’s going to take Russia a very long time to rebuild, and a major purge of grifters and the like who have been basically embezzling the Russian military budget. Putin is not going to live long enough to make any such thing possible, and if he starts playing games with nukes, he’s going to get pushed out a window.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 11, 2022 • 1:22:05am

One random thought rolling through my aging mind: This whole Russia-the-great thing that Putin is attempting strikes me as a transition from the bipolar world of post WWII (US - USSR) to the new bipolar world of the 21st century (US - PRC.)

The apparently poorly executed attempt to take over Ukraine has now exposed Russia as not a great military machine.

As I’ve noted before, right now this war is an advertisement for the value of having nuclear weapons.

If Russia didn’t have a nuclear force, we (the US) would have ended this thing by now.

Anyway, if it turns out that Putin fails to conquer Ukraine then that is the end of Russia being thought of as a great power. It will be a 2nd rate nation that just happens to have a few nukes.

This will not go unnoticed among the 100+ nations who are not tightly wound into the US sphere of influence.

China has already been more important financially and trade-wise for many nations, compared to Russia. That’s been true now for 30 years.

If Putin exposes Russia as a paper tiger (with nukes), any other nation will not have a good reason to think they can rely on Russia to counter any US influence.

Hence the value of China as the military counter-balance to the US goes up.

I wonder if new military agreements will spring up between China and some other nations because of this war.

Not nations on China’s border with long animosity towards Chinese domination, but nations in Africa and South America.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 11, 2022 • 1:23:11am

re: #150 Targetpractice

Which sort of brings us back to what started this, which was the argument that Putin is not a sane actor in this whole conflict. If he’s willing to use everything within his arsenal up to NBCs to win wars of conquest, then he would be willing to nuke the West if we got in his way. And thus any discussion of measures such as no-fly zones are not about “if” but “when” will the nukes begin to fly.

PBS Frontline did an interview with Julia Loffe, who’s an expert journalist on Russia. She’s a Russian-born American who studied Soviet history and Russian literature at Princeton University, and she’s been covering Russian politics for a long time.

A quote from the end of her interview that people need to understand.

Youtube Video

“When Putin threatens the use of nuclear weapons…If people think that he won’t use them, I think they’re mistaken. Everything Putin has showed us, every step of the last 22 years, is that every time we think he won’t go that far, he does…because he is losing, and because the sanctions and the Ukrainians are humiliating him, because he is backed into a corner, he is the most dangerous he has ever been.

There are interviews of numerous current and former NATO/military personnel that are saying essentially the same thing: Putin will continue to threaten the use of nuclear weapons to get his way, and he will use them if he wants to.

For example, former NATO Supreme Allied Commander, Wes Clark, echoed something similar in an interview the other day.

Youtube Video

In that interview, he explains how Ukraine is simply the first battle, and Putin will not stop there. If the West and its allies bow down to fears of Putin’s nuclear threats, the fight will eventually be brought directly to NATO’s territory. There, Putin will try to accomplish his goal of rolling back NATO territory and will try to reclaim what he thinks belongs to Russia.

We fight him now - or we fight him in Warsaw. Or Prague. Or Budapest. Or Berlin.

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JC1  Mar 11, 2022 • 1:24:18am

re: #150 Targetpractice

Which sort of brings us back to what started this, which was the argument that Putin is not a sane actor in this whole conflict. If he’s willing to use everything within his arsenal up to NBCs to win wars of conquest, then he would be willing to nuke the West if we got in his way. And thus any discussion of measures such as no-fly zones are not about “if” but “when” will the nukes begin to fly.

Leveling Ukraine knowing that we won’t step in isn’t insane in the suicidal way. Even if he had a death wish, does everyone that can get to him have one for themselves and their families as well? They’re all living pretty sweet lives, and they’re not true believer fanatics. Why do you think they’d settle for nuclear war over putting a bullet in Putin’s brain.
We should have been far harsher with Putin after Georgia. The reset button was stupid. Our reaction after Crimea was weak. Everything just emboldened him. Swearing up and down that NATO is a red line just implies that we won’t get our hands dirty if he levels none NATO countries.
I hope that despite these public NATO red lines, we gave Putin some private ones about using chemical weapons and such.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Mar 11, 2022 • 1:29:12am

re: #152 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

This ignores the fact that China is a jenga block tower teetering on collapse. It’s economy is smoke and mirrors, empty high-rise buildings, and fake factories. COVID accelerated it’s road to nowhere. They even lie about their population numbers in an attempt to intimidate India.

I don’t know what the future holds, but a world where China is a superpower in it’s current form with it’s current leadership isn’t in the cards.

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Targetpractice  Mar 11, 2022 • 1:29:27am

re: #148 JC1

Why do you assume that any confrontation between the US and Russia would automatically turn nuclear? I don’t think that that’s the modal outcome, especially if it’s not on Russian territory.

Because there’s no realistic scenario where it doesn’t. If you assume that Putin is willing to push things however far it goes to get the West to back down, then nuclear war is no longer a repugnant thought, it’s a necessary measure to ensure “victory.”

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 11, 2022 • 1:33:00am

re: #155 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

This ignores the fact that China is a jenga block tower teetering on collapse. It’s economy is smoke and mirrors, empty high-rise buildings, and fake factories. COVID accelerated it’s road to nowhere. They even lie about their population numbers in an attempt to intimidate India.

I don’t know what the future holds, but a world where China is a superpower in it’s current form with it’s current leadership isn’t in the cards.

Literally, if you’ve ever seen videos on “tofu-dreg construction”. Buildings where the cladding blows away in the wind, concrete and rebar that you can break with your bare hands like you’re from the planet Krypton or something, highway overpasses that fall over because a heavy truck used the passing lane.

They can build all that fast - but it’s all shit.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Mar 11, 2022 • 1:37:44am

re: #157 Dr Lizardo

Literally, if you’ve ever seen videos on “tofu-dreg construction”. Buildings where the cladding blows away in the wind, concrete and rebar than you can break with your bare hands like you’re from the planet Krypton or something, highway overpasses that fall over because a heavy truck used the passing lane.

They can build all that fast - but it’s all shit.

And the government is heavily invested in all of it. The Evergrande mess is just the tip of the iceberg.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 11, 2022 • 1:42:57am

re: #158 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

And the government is heavily invested in all of it. The Evergrande mess is just the tip of the iceberg.

Yeah, Beijing is dealing with a real-estate bubble that could be valued as high as $11 trillion USD. Real estate basically makes up an oversized chunk of China’s GDP and if that bubble pops, they’re seriously screwed.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Mar 11, 2022 • 1:43:51am

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JC1  Mar 11, 2022 • 1:47:03am

re: #156 Targetpractice

Because there’s no realistic scenario where it doesn’t. If you assume that Putin is willing to push things however far it goes to get the West to back down, then nuclear war is no longer a repugnant thought, it’s a necessary measure to ensure “victory.”

Unless it’s a massive bluff.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 11, 2022 • 1:52:40am
Khmel’nyts’ka Oblast’, Ivano-Frankivsk(11:35). Red Alert: aerial threat. Sirens sounding. Take cover now!

liveuamap.com

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Ming5000  Mar 11, 2022 • 1:54:45am

Russia is trying to soften the deaths of their own soldiers to the citizenry. The passive language is sickening. Does this sell in Russia?

“While performing a special operation to demilitarize Ukraine, he tragically died in an unequal battle”
“During the special operation, he tragically died.”

At least Putin is handing our medals:

It is reported that by decree of the President of Russia, both servicemen were awarded the Order of Courage posthumously.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 11, 2022 • 1:56:36am
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JC1  Mar 11, 2022 • 2:00:46am

The lesson from this whole Ukraine affair is that any middling power out there should try to acquire WMDs, preferably nukes. Because otherwise, a nuclear power can just roll over them and the rest of the world will be to paralyzed with fear to do much about it. I guess it’s a lesson that we’ve taught Iraq and Libya as well.

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Targetpractice  Mar 11, 2022 • 2:01:34am

re: #161 JC1

Unless it’s a massive bluff.

The thing about nuclear warfare is that it doesn’t start with ICBMs dropping multi-megatons on major cities. It starts smaller, like a general calling in a tactical nuclear strike to stop a tank column moving on his position. Or the use of a nuclear torpedo to wipe out a convoy of supply ships. Or a nuclear missile used to stop a flight of bombers. Once one side does it, the other side will respond.

Eventually one side or the other starts to get the upper hand, starts to present an existential threat to their enemy. At that point, what started at the tactical level turns strategic. Nukes aimed at military complexes, at shipyards, at airfields, and all other military infrastructure that is usually placed close enough to civilian populations that they’ll get caught in the blast.

And once you get to that point, it’s all over. Systems in place to ensure that you get your nukes off before they can snap into place and everything turns into a sea of fire.

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JC1  Mar 11, 2022 • 2:10:46am

re: #166 Targetpractice

The thing about nuclear warfare is that it doesn’t start with ICBMs dropping multi-megatons on major cities. It starts smaller, like a general calling in a tactical nuclear strike to stop a tank column moving on his position. Or the use of a nuclear torpedo to wipe out a convoy of supply ships. Or a nuclear missile used to stop a flight of bombers. Once one side does it, the other side will respond.

Eventually one side or the other starts to get the upper hand, starts to present an existential threat to their enemy. At that point, what started at the tactical level turns strategic. Nukes aimed at military complexes, at shipyards, at airfields, and all other military infrastructure that is usually placed close enough to civilian populations that they’ll get caught in the blast.

And once you get to that point, it’s all over. Systems in place to ensure that you get your nukes off before they can snap into place and everything turns into a sea of fire.

Do you think that China would put up with Putin using nukes?

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 11, 2022 • 2:11:15am
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Targetpractice  Mar 11, 2022 • 2:13:27am

re: #167 JC1

Do you think that China would put up with Putin using nukes?

I think if we’re asking ourselves “What would China do?,” then we’re in very real danger of becoming a dictatorship ourselves.

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Ming5000  Mar 11, 2022 • 2:13:30am

A quick agoogling didn’t turn up a Russian Order of Courage Medal for me.
In a sister article there is a close up of these two awards.

Again, I could not identify either one by agoogle.
The one on the right is pretty much straight up an Iron Cross design, isn’t it?
The Cross pattée design shows up in other countries’ coats of arms, but not in the distinctive German Iron Cross black.
Interesting.

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Targetpractice  Mar 11, 2022 • 2:21:52am

And really, wouldn’t our (as in the Western world) getting involved in the fighting in Ukraine with the implication that we’re ready to use nuclear force if Russia does not back down also be a bluff? Or are we really prepared to nuke Russian cities just to avoid the embarrassment of Ukraine being defeated?

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Ming5000  Mar 11, 2022 • 2:37:47am

re: #170 Ming5000

huh. Belgium had a Military Cross similar design to the German Iron Cross and almost identical to the Russian medal shown above.

It was established by Royal Decree on 11 February 1885 and is awarded to commissioned officers in the Belgian Armed Forces for loyal and uninterrupted service or to Non-Belgian military officers for distinguished service in favor of the Military of Belgium.

edit: Sorry, the picture is jarring.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 11, 2022 • 2:42:24am

re: #171 Targetpractice

And really, wouldn’t our (as in the Western world) getting involved in the fighting in Ukraine with the implication that we’re ready to use nuclear force if Russia does not back down also be a bluff? Or are we really prepared to nuke Russian cities just to avoid the embarrassment of Ukraine being defeated?

You’d have to clearly state that a NATO operation to liberate Ukraine has limited objectives. First, clear the skies of Russian fighter jets and neutralize Russian anti-aircraft defense and offensive missile systems. Then, after having established air supremacy, use that, in close coordination with Ukrainian ground forces, to drive occupying forces out of the country. NATO forces will make no attempt to penetrate Russia’s internationally recognized borders, with the exception of neutralizing Russia’s ability to target Ukrainian population centers. Once Russia is back beyond their frontiers (and I’ll cut ‘em a little slack because I’m not an asshole or anything, those “frontiers” will include the Crimean Peninsula - Putin seems especially freaked out about that - and use that as the starting point for negotiating a political settlement), then hostilities will cease.

And before this starts, tell the Russians in no uncertain terms that any use of WMD’s (nuclear, chemical, biological) against Ukrainian targets will be regarded as an attack on NATO itself and we will respond accordingly.

And what I’ve just written there is nothing all that radical - indeed, I’d bet $5 that my proposal is virtually identical to what’s probably already been written up in the Pentagon.

Of course, would the rest of NATO go along with that? I can well imagine German Chancellor Scholz fainting away at the presentation and Hungary’s Orban - Putin’s cabana boy in Budapest - would probably shit himself. Don’t really know about what Macron would say, to be honest. In short, getting NATO onboard with such an operation would prove to be the most difficult matter.

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Ming5000  Mar 11, 2022 • 2:44:19am

For Dr Lizardo

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 11, 2022 • 2:51:14am

If this is true, seems like Putin has found a couple folks to throw under the bus….

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Targetpractice  Mar 11, 2022 • 2:54:39am

re: #175 Dr Lizardo

If this is true, seems like Putin has found a couple folks to throw under the bus….

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Looks like Putin’s trying to build his own off-ramp: “We were misled, this war was a mistake, those responsible will be held accountable.” If the belief is that he can’t back down from the war because of the embarrassment at home, then a few show trials and summary executions would certainly help towards calming the natives.

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Ming5000  Mar 11, 2022 • 2:57:26am

re: #176 Targetpractice

The leaks about FSB informers, true or not, may have had some effect as well.
Perhaps also the “Letters from an FSB officer” had an effect. Unless only FSB knew about the reports.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 11, 2022 • 2:58:36am

re: #176 Targetpractice

Looks like Putin’s trying to build his own off-ramp: “We were misled, this war was a mistake, those responsible will be held accountable.” If the belief is that he can’t back down from the war because of the embarrassment at home, then a few show trials and summary executions would certainly help towards calming the natives.

That’s an interesting point. And I have little doubt that Putin’s propagandists could spin that very easily. Make Putin the victim of bad intel.

Oooh, better yet….claim that the people who fed him the intel were “Western spies engaging in the promotion of disinformation to the leadership, thus sending Russia into a military trap in an attempt to weaken and/or destroy Russia”.

As for Putin’s nonsense before the invasion, that can be memory-holed easily enough.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 11, 2022 • 2:59:37am

re: #170 Ming5000

A quick agoogling didn’t turn up a Russian Order of Courage Medal for me.
In a sister article there is a close up of these two awards.

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Again, I could not identify either one by agoogle.
The one on the right is pretty much straight up an Iron Cross design, isn’t it?
The Cross pattée design shows up in other countries’ coats of arms, but not in the distinctive German Iron Cross black.
Interesting.

That particular cross is also the background of the symbol of the Veterans of Foreign Wars.

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Targetpractice  Mar 11, 2022 • 3:05:37am

re: #178 Dr Lizardo

That’s an interesting point. And I have little doubt that Putin’s propagandists could spin that very easily. Make Putin the victim of bad intel.

Oooh, better yet….claim that the people who fed him the intel were “Western spies engaging in the promotion of disinformation to the leadership, thus sending Russia into a military trap in an attempt to weaken and/or destroy Russia”.

As for Putin’s nonsense before the invasion, that can be memory-holed easily enough.

In keeping with the theme so far, he may be reaching the point in the speed-run where the Kremlin started blaming the Army for the failures in Afghanistan in order to excuse themselves from the blame of ordering the boondoggle in the first place.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 11, 2022 • 3:08:52am

re: #180 Targetpractice

In keeping with the theme so far, he may be reaching the point in the speed-run where the Kremlin started blaming the Army for the failures in Afghanistan in order to excuse themselves from the blame of ordering the boondoggle in the first place.

It’s entirely possible. Blame the Army and their intelligence services for misleading them with faulty analysis.

It’s Russia - that kind of bullshit story might…just…work.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 11, 2022 • 3:08:54am

vfw.org

The cross shown in the German Iron Cross, the Russian award, the VFW symbol, &c. is the Cross of Malta.

The Cross of Malta is VFW’s emblem. The cross can trace its lineage back to the Crusades and the first brotherhood of warriors called the Knights of St. John. The knights represented all walks of life, but were united by a solemn pledge of unwavering courage and compassion. While they fought in numerous battles, they continued ministering to the sick, needy and poor.

The original cross of eight points also was adopted as an insignia by the knights because it represented the eight Beatitudes prescribed in the Sermon on the Mount. Even though the cross had a religious significance, it became the battle standard for the liberation of all who suffered oppression.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 11, 2022 • 3:10:53am

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 11, 2022 • 3:11:46am
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Targetpractice  Mar 11, 2022 • 3:14:26am

re: #184 Dr Lizardo

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Two words: “Cannon fodder.”

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 11, 2022 • 3:14:32am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 11, 2022 • 3:15:44am

re: #167 JC1

Do you think that China would put up with Putin using nukes?

If Russia would do a first-use of a nuclear weapon, even a small tactical one, even those countries which abstained from the prior UN vote, such as China, will object strongly to the use of a nuke.

China has more to lose by the proliferation of nuclear weapons than just about any other country. China already has spent years cozying up to Pakistan in no small part because of India’s nuclear capability. The last thing on earth any Chinese leader will want to have to deal with is if South Korea, Japan, or Taiwan become nuclear weapon powers.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 11, 2022 • 3:15:58am

re: #185 Targetpractice

Two words: “Cannon fodder.”

Also, less coffins to have to send back home to Russia.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 11, 2022 • 3:16:36am

re: #186 Dr Lizardo

Nukes now have to be on the menu for any moderately capable nation.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 11, 2022 • 3:18:46am

re: #187 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The last thing on earth any Chinese leader will want to have to deal with is if South Korea, Japan, or Taiwan become nuclear weapon powers.

Don’t know about Taiwan, but I’m pretty sure that Japan is “one screwdriver’s turn” away from having nuclear weapons if they wanted to. Same goes with South Korea.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Mar 11, 2022 • 3:19:02am

In the Star Trek story line, we had a global nuclear war from 2026 to 2050’s.

Will reality imitate fiction???

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 11, 2022 • 3:20:45am

re: #189 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Nukes now have to be on the menu for any moderately capable nation.

Hell, Japan will soon have an aircraft carrier. Their first since WWII.

en.wikipedia.org

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Ming5000  Mar 11, 2022 • 3:23:37am

Syrian high command sent the message out to every unit. “Send us your best troops to join the Hero Legionnaire Brigade!”
We know how units select troops for any special assignment like this. Only the best.

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Dangerman  Mar 11, 2022 • 3:29:10am

re: #183 Patricia Kayden

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See also a pandemic vaccine

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 11, 2022 • 3:29:33am

A bit more on those Iran talks: I’ll put the whole thing in a spoiler tag for ya….

Click to Reveal

A pause in the Vienna talks was required due to “external factors”, European Union foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said on Twitter, without elaborating. Borrell said the sides had come very close to agreement but didn’t say when — or if — the negotiations would be able to resume.

The rupture follows escalating tensions between the Kremlin and the White House. Russia warned on Saturday that it wanted U.S. guarantees that sanctions imposed over its invasion of Ukraine wouldn’t affect its planned partnership with Iran.

Oil prices extended gains on the break in negotiations as traders discarded cautious expectations that the U.S. would eventually lift its sanctions on Iran’s economy and ease an effective blockade on the OPEC member’s oil exports.

The U.S. and its European and regional allies must now decide how they respond if Iran continues to advance a nuclear program that has already enriched uranium to just below the level needed for atomic weapons.

“Undoubtedly the war in Ukraine has made it more difficult to get an agreement,” said Irish Foreign Minister Simon Coveny, who helped facilitate the talks, this week. Diplomats had “been trying to push for a deal before Russia’s war in Ukraine happened because we knew that it would create a lot of complexity.”

Russia weighed in with demands just hours after the head of the world’s nuclear watchdog announced from Tehran that one of the last major hurdles to a deal had been cleared. Up until that moment, diplomats had said on and off the record that they were close to an agreement.

As the window appeared to close this week, however, both the U.S. and Iran said lingering disagreements over the scope and timing sanctions relief looked unlikely to be overcome.

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Targetpractice  Mar 11, 2022 • 3:37:51am

So Syria’s providing more warm bodies, but is Russia also forcing their client state to pony up AFVs and warplanes as well? Or are they just expected to march like Napoleonic infantry into the face of Ukrainian machine guns?

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Mar 11, 2022 • 3:39:10am

re: #183 Patricia Kayden

It didn’t take $5-6 gas from a war to show that. COVID showed that.

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William Lewis  Mar 11, 2022 • 3:41:00am

CNN interview of Peter Turnley

Instagram

Peter Turnley on @cnn -The Human Face of the Exodus from Ukraine.

#peterturnley #documentaryphotography #photojournalism #humancondition #ukraine #russia #war #warinukraine #exodus

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 11, 2022 • 3:42:01am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 11, 2022 • 3:52:03am

re: #127 Targetpractice

If we’d faced a similar scenario in Iraq, where we were hemorraghing soldiers by the thousands, equipment by the billions of dollars, and we’d failed to secure a major city, the war effort would have been a massive political boondoggle and even Republicans would have begun arguing for us to cut our losses and accept whatever assurances Saddam would give us that he would not pursue WMD research.

No. Republicans would have demanded that we drop nukes.

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 11, 2022 • 4:10:20am

Putin copying his idol Stalin with his purges.

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Dopamine Fish  Mar 11, 2022 • 4:12:42am

Super unlucky today. I REALLY need to start guessing the uncommon letters earlier.

Click to Reveal

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William Lewis  Mar 11, 2022 • 4:13:10am

Was looking for something else and came across some old photos.

Town of Dunn Burying Ground, Dane County, Wisconsin - May 2006.

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Teukka  Mar 11, 2022 • 4:14:12am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 4:41:03am

re: #51 The Pie Overlord!

jfc if the Democrats do not make attack ads of this

Trump says whatever he thinks the people he is talking to want to hear. He knows that and everyone else knows as well. It cannot tarnish his image because flinging shit at a shit-covered surface produces no visible result.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 4:42:19am

re: #58 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

After the Fast Food Wars all restaurants will be Taco Bell.

Taco Belarus

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 11, 2022 • 4:48:21am

re: #202 Dopamine Fish

Super unlucky today. I REALLY need to start guessing the uncommon letters earlier.

I still know too many five-letter words. I started with uncommon letters.

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steve_davis  Mar 11, 2022 • 4:52:34am

We’ve discussed in past days about “What US city are we prepared to sacrifice?,”

Walterboro. It’s a small city in South Carolina, on the list of “10 most redneck cities in South Carolina,” but unlike the other 9, not within 10 miles of where I live. We give them Walterboro, they give us, say, Moscow. Look, when we make the offer, all of you just shut up and let me do the talking. I can sound pretty convincing in a pinch.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 11, 2022 • 4:52:41am

I really suck on popular music.

#Heardle #14

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heardle.app

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Teukka  Mar 11, 2022 • 4:53:59am

This makes me seethe. I still remember the mess it cause where I lived in Sweden when it happened. And I didn’t live in the hardest hit areas in Sweden. You know that it still happens that reindeer meat has to be discarded because it’s too radioactive?
Also, one of my classmates worked at one of the nuke plants where they first discovered that they’d had a serious accident in the Soviet Union…

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steve_davis  Mar 11, 2022 • 4:56:43am

re: #134 Targetpractice

Right now we’re already straddling a line of our own, arguing that “military aid” is separate from “military support.” That shipping weapons to non-NATO countries is separate from sending in NATO troops to fight alongside or on the behalf of those same countries. We’re flying drones in Ukrainian airspace and providing real-time intelligence to the Ukrainian Armed Forces. And we maintain that argument because it gives us a buffer, a paper-thin shield against getting involved in a direct war between NATO and Russia.

Here’s a big question to consider: What if the US signals openness to using nuclear weapons against Russia over Ukraine…and the rest of NATO says “FARK NO!” We’ve discussed in past days about “What US city are we prepared to sacrifice?,” but Article 5 means the US wouldn’t be alone in going toe-to-toe with the Russkies. Either we’d drag the whole of the world into a nuclear war or we’d shatter NATO over Ukraine.

at the moment, people can stop yelling at Biden to establish a no-fly zone. The rest of NATO doesn’t want it, and for us to do it would mean us using their air space, which they would not allow. Also, if Putin decided to use nukes as retaliation, he’d take out the air and army bases the U.S. has in Europe, which means they would get cooked as well. So in other words, no, we’re not setting up a no-fly zone. And NATO isn’t either.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 11, 2022 • 4:57:02am

Geography porn.

#Worldle #49 5/6 (100%)
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lawhawk  Mar 11, 2022 • 4:58:30am

re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Otherwise known as being sentenced more harshly than more than a few of the insurrectionists who participated in sedition and the armed insurrection to overthrow the government.

Yet another reminder of the institutionalized racism pervasive in the system - even the insurrectionists are treated to sentences that are lighter than someone who filed false report/lied to cops.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:00:39am

re: #102 retired cynic

This one hadn’t occurred to me, but this sure makes sense.

The Real Reason Trump Hasn’t Been Indicted
politicalwire.com

Some people are, in fact, above the law.

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Florida Panhandler  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:01:03am

re: #175 Dr Lizardo

If this is true, seems like Putin has found a couple folks to throw under the bus….

..and just like that, as with any dictator, here come the purges. It often takes a few cycles of purges for the final leadership collapse to occur. I’m thinking that a month from now there will have been a Russian default, at least 2 more rounds of purges, and enough fed-up public mood to cause Putin real existential problems.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:01:28am

Now, take this one with a grain of salt the size of, I don’t know, K2 or something, but…..

Click to Reveal

March 11, 2022

According to available information, Vladimir Putin has ordered the preparation of a terrorist attack at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. The Russian-controlled Chernobyl nuclear power plant plans to create a man-made catastrophe, for which the occupiers will try to shift responsibility to Ukraine.

Currently, the Chernobyl nuclear power plant is completely disconnected from the monitoring systems of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). The station is de-energized. The resource of available diesel generators is designed for 48 hours of maintenance of safety systems.

The occupiers refused to grant access to the station to Ukrainian repairmen. Instead, “Belarusian specialists” went there on the instructions of Alexander Lukashenko. Among them, under the guise of nuclear power plants, Russian saboteurs also come to organize a terrorist attack.

At the same time, in recent days, Putin’s troops have struck at the Zaporizhzhya NPP and the Kharkiv Institute of Physics and Technology (where the experimental nuclear reactor is located).

In order to imitate the involvement of the Ukrainian military in the Chernobyl accident, the occupiers are trying to create fake “evidence” to confirm their version. In particular, Russian car refrigerators collecting the bodies of dead Ukrainian defenders were spotted near the Antonov airport in Gostomel. There is a possibility that they will be pretended to be killed saboteurs in the Chernobyl zone.

That is, without getting the desired result from the ground military operation and direct talks, Putin is ready to resort to nuclear blackmail of the world community for the sake of concessions in support of Ukraine.

At present, Ukraine, the world, and Russia itself understand that the statements about Ukraine’s involvement in the creation of a nuclear threat are just a staging of a mediocre scenario. Nevertheless, such actions by Putin will have catastrophic consequences for the whole world. It seems that this is what the Russian dictator is counting on, demanding unacceptable concessions.

gur.gov.ua

Like I said, take it with a grain of salt. It’s from the Ukrainian government’s Defense Ministry and they could have some knowledge the rest of don’t.

Personally, I really don’t see how such a hamfisted operation would benefit Putin in the slightest, unless he’s gone all Götterdämmerung and decided he’s just gonna fuck up all of Ukraine (and possibly Europe)…sort of the ultimate, “If I can’t have you, no one can.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:01:42am

re: #210 Teukka

This makes me seethe. I still remember the mess it cause where I lived in Sweden when it happened. And I didn’t live in the hardest hit areas in Sweden. You know that it still happens that reindeer meat has to be discarded because it’s too radioactive?
Also, one of my classmates worked at one of the nuke plants where they first discovered that they’d had a serious accident in the Soviet Union…

I have to wonder how much stuff that is not direct video on Twitter is propaganda versus actual accounts of events.

Messing with Chernobyl would foul up Russia and Belarus as well.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:02:07am

re: #117 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Germans are dead literal and often do not grasp the kind of sarcastic, ironic humor that goes around three corners to make its point.

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RoJo Must Go!  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:03:10am

I hate it when it comes down to a guessing game on the final letter…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:03:53am

re: #133 Dr Lizardo

Here in the EU, daylight savings time (or “summer time”) begins on the 28th of March. We’ve still got a couple more weeks.

It still sucks.

Mind you, I grew up in Indiana and Arizona, two states that did not have DST (Indiana has since signed on)

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Dopamine Fish  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:05:16am

re: #216 Dr Lizardo

Now, take this one with a grain of salt the size of, I don’t know, K2 or something, but…..

[Hidden content]

gur.gov.ua

Like I said, take it with a grain of salt. It’s from the Ukrainian government’s Defense Ministry and they could have some knowledge the rest of don’t.

Personally, I really don’t see how such a hamfisted operation would benefit Putin in the slightest, unless he’s gone all Götterdämmerung and decided he’s just gonna fuck up all of Ukraine (and possibly Europe)…sort of the ultimate, “If I can’t have you, no one can.”

The idea is not to get caught. If he was successful in actually framing the Ukrainians for blowing up a nuclear power plant, he could make a powerful case for why he should be allowed to finish taking over the country. The problem is, assuming this is even legitimate in the first place, the logistics of these operations are just as good as that of the rest of the war effort - that is to say, not good at all. If this was a real threat at all, it has now been de-fanged, having been exposed to the world. Which makes me think that - again, just assuming that it’s even real - he will probably not go through with it.

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steve_davis  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:05:20am

re: #125 Dr Lizardo

The “red line” is generally agreed to be if Putin goes after a NATO country. But I confess, I have doubts about that.

If he does, let’s say, one of the Baltic states, how long do you think it’ll be before we start hearing, “Oh, but it’s just Estonia (or Latvia or Lithuania), yeah they’re NATO….but……..”

Regardless of the effectiveness (or lack thereof) of the Russian Army, Putin knows all he has to do is keep shouting, “I have nukes! Give me what I want or else!!” and until someone stands up and says, “LOL no, then you can kiss Nizhny Novgorod goodbye” Putin is going to continue doing this - he knows that there’s a sizeable contingent of the “peace at any price” crowd.

Estonia is NATO. They will protect Estonia like it is the freakin’ Arkenstone. Membership has its privileges.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:06:26am

re: #220 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It still sucks.

Mind you, I grew up in Indiana and Arizona, two states that did not have DST (Indiana has since signed on)

Prior to the pandemic, the Czech parliament was discussing whether to adopt permanent summer time or permanent standard time. Obviously, the COVID pandemic scuttled all that, and with all the madness going on not too far away from here (and a newly-minted refugee crisis as a result), that discussion will likely be on hold indefinitely.

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John Hughes  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:06:31am

re: #134 Targetpractice

. We’re flying drones in Ukrainian airspace

We almost certainly are not.

If we were the Russians would have shot them down.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:07:18am

re: #152 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

One random thought rolling through my aging mind: This whole Russia-the-great thing that Putin is attempting strikes me as a transition from the bipolar world of post WWII (US - USSR) to the new bipolar world of the 21st century (US - PRC.)

The Cold War was a world-wide ideological struggle. The current one is not world-wide, nor does it wish to assert any ideology beyond cementing Russia’s “historical” sphere of influence, including all the former Soviet Republics.

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steve_davis  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:07:59am

re: #218 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Germans are dead literal and often do not grasp the kind of sarcastic, ironic humor that goes around three corners to make its point.

You are absolutely correct. I drove to a party once with a gal from Germany, and when she would confirm directions, I had to stop saying “Right,” because she’d try to take right hand turns. I guess “richtig” must have gone through way more changes in English than it did in the mother tongue.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:08:38am

re: #222 steve_davis

Estonia is NATO. They will protect Estonia like it is the freakin’ Arkenstone. Membership has its privileges.

I certainly hope so. The former foreign minister here is of the opinion that NATO would be willing to abandon the Baltic states to their fate because they’re too afraid of a direct conflict with Russia.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:10:17am

re: #153 Dr Lizardo

We fight him now - or we fight him in Warsaw. Or Prague. Or Budapest. Or Berlin.

Putin might see his “historical” empire as including Poland and Finland (as well as all the former Soviet Republics) but but I don’t think he has designs beyond that.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:12:10am

re: #227 Dr Lizardo

If they’re not willing to protect member states, NATO needs to be dissolved.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:12:37am

re: #214 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Some people are, in fact, above the law.

A better punishment for Trump is to strip him of whatever wealth he has and hammer him in tax court.

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William Lewis  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:13:14am

re: #224 John Hughes

We almost certainly are not.

If we were the Russians would have shot them down.

What we do have is AWACS, KC-10, B-52, etc circling very obviously just inside NATO airspace showing a very big stick that is very soft spoken…

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darthstar  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:13:29am

re: #228 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Putin might see his “historical” empire as including Poland and Finland (as well as all the former Soviet Republics) but but I don’t think he has designs beyond that.

Fine, he can have Texas but we’re still sanctioning his oil.

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Florida Panhandler  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:13:39am

re: #222 steve_davis

Estonia is NATO. They will protect Estonia like it is the freakin’ Arkenstone. Membership has its privileges.

Putin has shown himself to be a terrible active military commander and an even worse strategist. He has long believed his own propaganda that the West and NATO are weak, chase money over anything else (well, he almost got that one right), and lack any real resolve.

However under Putin there are assuredly those (who like living and breathing ) who know otherwise and will hopefully remove the problem off of the game board if Putin tries to initiate nuke launches. I can imagine a hallway shootout between FSB members and Putin’s own Pretorian Guard.

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William Lewis  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:15:02am

re: #227 Dr Lizardo

I certainly hope so. The former foreign minister here is of the opinion that NATO would be willing to abandon the Baltic states to their fate because they’re too afraid of a direct conflict with Russia.

Article 5. Either NATO ends they defend the Baltic states to the bitter end.

My money is on defend. Especially now that the Bear’s teeth are show to badly need a dentist ;)

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steve_davis  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:16:12am

re: #163 Ming5000

Russia is trying to soften the deaths of their own soldiers to the citizenry. The passive language is sickening. Does this sell in Russia?

“While performing a special operation to demilitarize Ukraine, he tragically died in an unequal battle”
“During the special operation, he tragically died.”

At least Putin is handing our medals:

I don’t speak Russian, but I remember someone who does remarking that it is a language designed to make oneself unblamable for things that happen. The things apparently happen, but the language construction is such that they seem to happen with no agency involved in the process.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:18:42am

re: #223 Dr Lizardo

Prior to the pandemic, the Czech parliament was discussing whether to adopt permanent summer time or permanent standard time. Obviously, the COVID pandemic scuttled all that, and with all the madness going on not too far away from here (and a newly-minted refugee crisis as a result), that discussion will likely be on hold indefinitely.

As I understand, the EU Parliament has resolved to keep us all on Endless Summer time, but the various member states have yet to adopt that into legislation. It would be chaos if they did not do it all at once.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:18:55am

re: #220 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It still sucks.

Mind you, I grew up in Indiana and Arizona, two states that did not have DST (Indiana has since signed on)

None of the ranchers or farmers care for summer time (as cattle and crops don’t care about clocks).

Living in a state divided into two time zones has its moments. Central Time Zone is only a few miles to my east.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:19:20am

re: #234 William Lewis

Article 5. Either NATO ends they defend the Baltic states to the bitter end.

My money is on defend. Especially now that the Bear’s teeth are show to badly need a dentist ;)

Mr. Svoboda believes that Germany would be the most likely to try to prevent NATO action against Russia if they went after the Baltics. First, lingering German trauma over their defeat in WWII and secondly, Berlin still (naively) believes that diplomacy is possible with Putin and that the Germans would choose their considerable financial interests in Russia over NATO cooperation; they’d want to go back to “business as usual” with Russia ASAP.

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steve_davis  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:20:01am

re: #173 Dr Lizardo

You’d have to clearly state that a NATO operation to liberate Ukraine has limited objectives. First, clear the skies of Russian fighter jets and neutralize Russian anti-aircraft defense and offensive missile systems. Then, after having established air supremacy, use that, in close coordination with Ukrainian ground forces, to drive occupying forces out of the country. NATO forces will make no attempt to penetrate Russia’s internationally recognized borders, with the exception of neutralizing Russia’s ability to target Ukrainian population centers. Once Russia is back beyond their frontiers (and I’ll cut ‘em a little slack because I’m not an asshole or anything, those “frontiers” will include the Crimean Peninsula - Putin seems especially freaked out about that - and use that as the starting point for negotiating a political settlement), then hostilities will cease.

And before this starts, tell the Russians in no uncertain terms that any use of WMD’s (nuclear, chemical, biological) against Ukrainian targets will be regarded as an attack on NATO itself and we will respond accordingly.

And what I’ve just written there is nothing all that radical - indeed, I’d bet $5 that my proposal is virtually identical to what’s probably already been written up in the Pentagon.

Of course, would the rest of NATO go along with that? I can well imagine German Chancellor Scholz fainting away at the presentation and Hungary’s Orban - Putin’s cabana boy in Budapest - would probably shit himself. Don’t really know about what Macron would say, to be honest. In short, getting NATO onboard with such an operation would prove to be the most difficult matter.

we can’t clear air defense without bombing positions in Belarus and Russia, so that would spiral out of control very quickly.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:20:18am

re: #236 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As I understand, the EU Parliament has resolved to keep us all on Endless Summer time, but the various member states have yet to adopt that into legislation. It would be chaos if they did not do it all at once.

Yeah, imagine Czech Republic on standard time and Germany on summer time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:20:19am

re: #226 steve_davis

You are absolutely correct. I drove to a party once with a gal from Germany, and when she would confirm directions, I had to stop saying “Right,” because she’d try to take right hand turns. I guess “richtig” must have gone through way more changes in English than it did in the mother tongue.

Germans enjoy a joke as much as anyone else, but you have to announce it in advance. Just peppering a conversation with witty asides and ironic comments can get you into a lot of trouble (I found that out the hard way).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:20:44am

re: #230 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

A better punishment for Trump is to strip him of whatever wealth he has and hammer him in tax court.

I think that is about all they can do: Al Capone him.

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John Hughes  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:21:29am

re: #163 Ming5000

“While performing a special operation to demilitarize Ukraine, he tragically died in an unequal battle”

this is a bit problematic — unequal battle how? Are they implying that the glorious Russian federation is somehow not infinitely superior to the drug taking banderista?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:21:50am

re: #235 steve_davis

I don’t speak Russian, but I remember someone who does remarking that it is a language designed to make oneself unblamable for things that happen. The things apparently happen, but the language construction is such that they seem to happen with no agency involved in the process.

They have a special instrumental case that makes it easy to use the passive voice.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:23:40am

re: #237 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

None of the ranchers or farmers care for summer time (as cattle and crops don’t care about clocks).

Living in a state divided into two time zones has its moments. Central Time Zone is only a few miles to my east.

Arizona has the Navajo Reservation, which, because it extends into parts of NM and Colorado, does change its clocks.

The Hopi Reservation, completely surrounded by Navajo territory, does not.

So you can find yourself having to reset your clocks for times when driving from Flagstaff to Gallup New Mexico…

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Belafon  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:25:10am

re: #134 Targetpractice

Either we’d drag the whole of the world into a nuclear war or we’d shatter NATO over Ukraine.

The point that I have maintained is that we need to stop Putin because he won’t stop at Ukraine. He will continue into NATO countries. And if you want to throw the world into chaos, show that the NATO pact is meaningless, because it was created to counter a nuclear Russia.

Personally, I think it’s time we stepped it up a bit and got even more directly involved. At a minimum, take Poland up on the plane offer if it was real.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:25:25am

re: #243 John Hughes

this is a bit problematic — unequal battle how? Are they implying that the glorious Russian federation is somehow not infinitely superior to the drug taking banderista?

“He was single-handedly defending an nunnery and orphanage from being burned down and sodomized by a crazed horde of gay Zionist Azov Brigade Nazis”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:25:41am
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Belafon  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:27:31am

re: #142 Ming5000

“….you are driving me completely into sadness with your pessimism.”

edit add: Russians would have been completely happy with just keeping Crimea and solidifying the separatist regions. Thieves.

The map that Russia put up right before invading had Russia taking over almost all of Ukraine, leaving just a small part around Kyiv.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:30:55am

German humor: it’s no laughing matter.

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Teukka  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:31:34am

I wonder if it fell victim to the Russians jamming satellite navigation systems, like they do over most of Finlands eastern border, Kaliningrad and the Finnish-Norwegian border…

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William Lewis  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:33:10am

re: #250 Barefoot Grin

German humor: it’s no laughing matter.

Oh, I don’t know. I remember their version of Hogan’s Heroes which was even more outrageously hilarious than the original.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:34:38am

re: #248 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Dana Loesch, Ronald Reagan on Line #2.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:36:11am

re: #252 William Lewis

Oh, I don’t know. I remember their version of Hogan’s Heroes which was even more outrageously hilarious than the original.

I was falling out of my chair over it: they had Schultz speaking Bavarian dialect while Klink was speaking Saxon, the dialect associated with East German border guards.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:40:55am

Rep. Madison Cawthorn discovers that there is pushback for calling an ally and a national hero a “thug,” makes half-assed attempt to backpedal.

He also seems to have discovered in a war, both sides put out propaganda. Who knew? (Except Cawthorn.)

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steve_davis  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:40:57am

re: #203 William Lewis

Was looking for something else and came across some old photos.

Town of Dunn Burying Ground, Dane County, Wisconsin - May 2006.

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hey, Wisconsin Death Trip.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:43:27am

The guess on 3 worked out

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Belafon  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:43:45am

re: #147 Dr Lizardo

If Russia finds itself a situation where they’re losing, I can all too easily see Putin going full scorched earth on Ukraine. I was talking with a friend yesterday, and we both kind of figured that Putin not only has some variety of messianic complex but that he’s conflated his own personal existence with that of Russia itself - “I am Russia!” is what Putin seems to be thinking. This war in Ukraine seems to have become, in Putin’s mind, an existential matter and that if he is defeated in this, then Russia itself will be defeated. Therefore, rather than confront a defeat, he will choose the path of total destruction of Ukraine.

And once he’s done with that, he’ll go after the Baltics, threatening the use of nuclear weapons and saying, “Behold Ukraine - such is your fate if you resist.”

Someone should ask him how Russia survived considering that happened to it multiple times.

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John Hughes  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:45:34am

re: #231 William Lewis

What we do have is AWACS, KC-10, B-52, etc circling very obviously just inside NATO airspace showing a very big stick that is very soft spoken…

Exactly. Which is why it would be stupid trying to fly vulnerable drones in contested airspace.

I get the feeling that multiple decades of fighting “non-peer” enemies has really confused some people.

“Just fly predators over Ukraine”, “a new rolling thunder with B52s”.

These things are only possible with air superiority. Which means taking out Russian SAM batteries in Belarus and Russia.

Ok, maybe some people want to do that, but if so they should be clear.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:45:49am

Weird buncha numbers has thoughts on the Cawthorn thread. They are stupid thoughts.

a) Putin
b) Abbott

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steve_davis  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:46:24am

re: #246 Belafon

The point that I have maintained is that we need to stop Putin because he won’t stop at Ukraine. He will continue into NATO countries. And if you want to throw the world into chaos, show that the NATO pact is meaningless, because it was created to counter a nuclear Russia.

Personally, I think it’s time we stepped it up a bit and got even more directly involved. At a minimum, take Poland up on the plane offer if it was real.

my theory—we already have. we just went through a week of dinner theater in order to make the whole thing deniable. the aircraft are not going to a U.S. base. they likely already have quietly been moved into western ukraine. all the stuff about “no, we’d have to pull nato stuff out of the planes” was just disinformation for an enemy who doesn’t really have any way of knowing if it is true or not. Probably they had to pull the NATO vanilla air freshener out from under the pilot’s seat, but that’s likely it.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:49:41am

re: #252 William Lewis

Oh, I don’t know. I remember their version of Hogan’s Heroes which was even more outrageously hilarious than the original.

I know. It’s a joke my brother once made after talking about the personality differences that emerged between he and his first German wife (he’s been in Hamburg since 1989). It’s not that she and her family had no sense of humor—they laughed a lot. It’s that it wasn’t the same as his. Like the time she stopped taking birth control without telling him—ha ha!

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darthstar  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:50:47am

Easy one, but there were three other wrong first letters I could have used to screw the pooch.
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steve_davis  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:52:19am

re: #263 darthstar

Easy one, but there were three other wrong first letters I could have used to screw the pooch.
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lol! exactly the same. at least 3 choices on that last try.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:54:44am

re: #125 Dr Lizardo

…….

Regardless of the effectiveness (or lack thereof) of the Russian Army, Putin knows all he has to do is keep shouting, “I have nukes! Give me what I want or else!!” and until someone stands up and says, “LOL no, then you can kiss Nizhny Novgorod goodbye” Putin is going to continue doing this - he knows that there’s a sizeable contingent of the “peace at any price” crowd.

In the US, there’s also the pro-Putin treason brigade. Too many here support him because they hate the contemporary world.

And there there are those who are isolationist and think that we can ignore bloodshed elsewhere. We did nothing when Germany took Czechoslovakia and then Germany and Russia devoured Poland; it took a direct attack on the US for us to be willing to join the war. OTOH, we didn’t think of ourselves as having the most powerful military in the world at that time.

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jeffreyw  Mar 11, 2022 • 5:57:32am

Good morning!

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John Hughes  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:00:26am

re: #248 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Free men and women were barred from their constitutional rights by Ronald Reagan

edit: gmta

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lizardofid  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:01:08am

re: #265 Hecuba’s daughter

In the US, there’s also the pro-Putin treason brigade. Too many here support him because they hate the contemporary world.

And there there are those who are isolationist and think that we can ignore bloodshed elsewhere. We did nothing when Germany took Czechoslovakia and then Germany and Russia devoured Poland; it took a direct attack on the US for us to be willing to join the war. OTOH, we didn’t think of ourselves as having the most powerful military in the world at that time.

Many of them are envious that he has his own church too.

Oh, good morning!

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Targetpractice  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:01:29am

re: #259 John Hughes

Exactly. Which is why it would be stupid trying to fly vulnerable drones in contested airspace.

I get the feeling that multiple decades of fighting “non-peer” enemies has really confused some people.

“Just fly predators over Ukraine”, “a new rolling thunder with B52s”.

These things are only possible with air superiority. Which means taking out Russian SAM batteries in Belarus and Russia.

Ok, maybe some people want to do that, but if so they should be clear.

In my case, I blame Early-Onset Stupidity. I was probably remembering one of the Russian accusations that a US drone had provided targeting data to the Ukrainians during an attack on a Russian ship. It’s been a very confusing two weeks.

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steve_davis  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:02:36am

re: #242 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I think that is about all they can do: Al Capone him.

hey, he already has the tertiary syphilis.

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b.d  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:03:42am

Good morning Lizards:

Is this wishcasting?

Dow futures jump 300 points on hope there will be progress in Russia-Ukraine ceasefire talks

cnbc.com

I am not seeing any other such optimism being reported anywhere? Obviously the monied class are privy to info like this 1st but still?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:03:47am

re: #268 lizardofid

Many of them are envious that he has his own church too.

Oh, good morning!

With its own Patriarch/Oligarch

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:05:37am

re: #262 Barefoot Grin

I know. It’s a joke my brother once made after talking about the personality differences that emerged between he and his first German wife (he’s been in Hamburg since 1989). It’s not that she and her family had no sense of humor—they laughed a lot. It’s that it wasn’t the same as his. Like the time she stopped taking birth control without telling him—ha ha!

One of my favorite German jokes:

A fellow goes to his doctor about a suspected leather allergy. The doctor asks him why he thinks that’s the case. He replies: “Every time I fall asleep with my shoes on, I wake up with a terrible headache!”

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lizardofid  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:08:18am

re: #272 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

With its own Patriarch/Oligarch/Capo

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Ming5000  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:15:44am

re: #251 Teukka

I wonder if it fell victim to the Russians jamming satellite navigation systems, like they do over most of Finlands eastern border, Kaliningrad and the Finnish-Norwegian border…

I wonder whose it was.
Closest distance, roughly, from eyeballs, between UA and Croatia is 250mi/400k.

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darthstar  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:15:56am

re: #271 b.d

Good morning Lizards:

Is this wishcasting?

cnbc.com

I am not seeing any other such optimism being reported anywhere? Obviously the monied class are privy to info like this 1st but still?

Ruble’s starting the day at 0.0085 again. Seems to do this every day, then drop to 0.0073 or so. Wish it would fuckin’ crash already.

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darthstar  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:18:48am

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Dopamine Fish  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:20:03am

re: #276 darthstar

Ruble’s starting the day at 0.0085 again. Seems to do this every day, then drop to 0.0073 or so. Wish it would fuckin’ crash already.

I mean, I know what you’re saying, but it technically has already crashed.

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darthstar  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:21:19am

re: #278 Dopamine Fish

I mean, I know what you’re saying, but it technically has already crashed.

IT CAN CRASH HARDER.

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steve_davis  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:24:40am

what i’ve discovered in two weeks of actively tweeting. most people are idiots. also, i have no idea how to read a twitter thread in order to discover what I was replying to that someone decided they needed to reply to me about, so responding to people is often really entertaining because i’ll have no idea what they’re talking about.

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darthstar  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:24:51am

I need these stickers.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:28:59am

re: #279 darthstar

IT CAN CRASH HARDER.

Perhaps surpassing the most dramatic collapse of a currency in the world, the Hungarian pengő.

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John Hughes  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:31:34am

re: #269 Targetpractice

In my case, I blame Early-Onset Stupidity. I was probably remembering one of the Russian accusations that a US drone had provided targeting data to the Ukrainians during an attack on a Russian ship. It’s been a very confusing two weeks.

If I remember correctly the Russians accused the US of providing air recon to the Ukrainians which is almost certainly true. It’s just that the US doesn’t have to enter Ukrainian or Russian airspace to get such reconnaissance.

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lawhawk  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:32:06am

re: #279 darthstar

IT CAN CRASH HARDER.

Yeah, dead cat bounces are dead….

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darthstar  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:32:13am

re: #282 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Perhaps surpassing the most dramatic collapse of a currency in the world, the Hungarian pengő.

I accept this option.

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Ming5000  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:35:14am

re: #278 Dopamine Fish

I mean, I know what you’re saying, but it technically has already crashed.

I am also hoping to see the ruble fall faster and farther.

I looked up why it is not falling much in the last week. One answer is that the markets have not opened yet.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:36:22am
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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:39:02am

re: #219 RoJo Must Go!

I hate it when it comes down to a guessing game on the final letter…

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And even more when I run out of guesses because there are too many possibilities. 😒

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:39:03am

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No Malarkey!  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:40:20am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:40:46am

re: #276 darthstar

Ruble’s starting the day at 0.0085 again. Seems to do this every day, then drop to 0.0073 or so. Wish it would fuckin’ crash already.

118 Rubles to the Dollar.

As I mentioned, I experienced it going from 120 to the Dollar to over 600 in eighteen months.

When it hit 700, they just lopped off two zeroes.

Now it is approaching its starting point in 1992.

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Jay C  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:41:50am

re: #274 lizardofid

re: #272 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

With its own Patriarch/Oligarch/Capo

Just for lolz I’ve been checking in at TAC to see what the “intellectual” right is thinking about the Ukraine War - not very amusing, though: their main themes are depressingly familiar: start off every piece with a “Putin’s War is bad and wrong” disclaimer, then segue right into blame-mongering that the war was provoked by Somebody Else…. (the usual suspects).

Rod Dreher, in particular, haz a Major Sad over the schism in the Orthodox Church(es) the Ukraine war has engendered: though he typically shifts the “blame” onto “Western” actors - Russian Patriarch Kyrill’s pro-war, ultranationalistic appeals seem to surprise him, for some reason: and, despite a perfunctory dismissal of Kyrill’s “It’s all about Teh Gay” blitherings, goes on to pen a lengthy screed about how Putin’s War actually IS “all about Teh Gay” - decadent Western pushing for LGBTQ rights simply alienating all those good, right-thinking religious East-Europeans… etc.

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Belafon  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:42:19am

re: #201 DodgerFan1988

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Putin copying his idol Stalin with his purges.

Like Roosevelt, too. “Someone is to blame, and it isnt me.”

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No Malarkey!  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:44:14am

Putin said there were positive developments in the peace talks, creating a sliver of hope the war may end sooner rather than later. In the meantime, Russia is about to lose most favored nation trading status. finance.yahoo.com

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:46:21am

re: #157 Dr Lizardo

Literally, if you’ve ever seen videos on “tofu-dreg construction”. Buildings where the cladding blows away in the wind, concrete and rebar that you can break with your bare hands like you’re from the planet Krypton or something, highway overpasses that fall over because a heavy truck used the passing lane.

They can build all that fast - but it’s all shit.

Maybe. But I’m old enough to recall when Japanese products were mocked as being low quality, and then within a few years, they were number 1 in terms of product loyalty and far better than what the Big 3 were creating. China is working its way up the food chain and should never be underestimated. The hopefully soon collapse of Russia will likely be the real opportunity for them.

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:47:30am

re: #266 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Wonder if the woodpecker has money on that fight?

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:48:12am

Google translate is getting a workout this morning for me.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:48:27am

re: #235 steve_davis

I don’t speak Russian, but I remember someone who does remarking that it is a language designed to make oneself unblamable for things that happen. The things apparently happen, but the language construction is such that they seem to happen with no agency involved in the process.

You can use impersonal constructions in Russian and in English. (“Mistakes were made.”) This is silly.

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steve_davis  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:49:28am

re: #298 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

You can use impersonal constructions in Russian and in English. (“Mistakes were made.”) This is silly.

I’m just remarking on what I read, not trying to be profound.

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Ming5000  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:49:42am

re: #294 No Malarkey!

Putin said there were positive developments in the peace talks, creating a sliver of hope the war may end sooner rather than later. In the meantime, Russia is about to lose most favored nation trading status. finance.yahoo.com

Huh:

Putin said during a meeting with his Belarusian counterpart Alexander Lukashenko that there were “certain positive developments” occurring in the talks with Ukraine, according to a transcript of their meeting. Putin added that discussions were happening “almost on a daily basis.”

The 1st sentence is hilarious and the 2nd is true. The statement means nothing and the stock market reacts??

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Jay C  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:49:55am

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Only moderately difficult today IMHO.

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Ming5000  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:53:28am

re: #295 Hecuba’s daughter

Maybe. But I’m old enough to recall when Japanese products were mocked as being low quality, and then within a few years, they were number 1 in terms of product loyalty and far better than what the Big 3 were creating. China is working its way up the food chain and should never be underestimated. The hopefully soon collapse of Russia will likely be the real opportunity for them.

I think the tofu dregs applies to domestic Chinese construction and maybe products. Chinese construction exists of bad or no regulations and corruption from both the government and the companies.

The Chinese manufacturing for industries where Chinese companies want to compete internationally have developed well and are good now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:53:51am

re: #298 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

You can use impersonal constructions in Russian and in English. (“Mistakes were made.”) This is silly.

And there are Russian sentences that do not need a subject: “Raindrops are falling” in Russian can be expressed in one verb that just assumes a subject: капает (kápaet) or with a reflexive form, which the verb does something itself.

It just means that there are a lot more grammatical options for weaseling one’s way out of responsibility.

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steve_davis  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:54:04am

re: #300 Ming5000

Huh:

The 1st sentence is hilarious and the 2nd is true. The statement means nothing and the stock market reacts??

never pay any attention to financial headlines. they have no idea why the market is going up or down on any given day, but they need to write articles pretending they do. “Stocks go up because interest rates are scheduled to go up by only 25 basis points.” “Stocks go down because interest rates are scheduled to go down by only 25 basis points.” It’s all a random walk.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:55:30am

re: #304 steve_davis

never pay any attention to financial headlines. they have no idea why the market is going up or down on any given day, but they need to write articles pretending they do. “Stocks go up because interest rates are scheduled to go up by only 25 basis points.” “Stocks go down because interest rates are scheduled to go down by only 25 basis points.” It’s all a random walk.

It is also because people who write about the markets need to come up with copy even when they have no relevant or valid information.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Mar 11, 2022 • 6:55:48am

re: #266 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Cardinal machismo.

Also, western good morning!

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:01:57am

re: #299 steve_davis

I’m just remarking on what I read, not trying to be profound.

And I’m just correcting an error in what you read. (People are always saying silly things about Russian, even more than other frighteningly foreign languages.)

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Targetpractice  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:02:06am

re: #305 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is also because people who write about the markets need to come up with copy even when they have no relevant or valid information.

Hence why I refer to it as the “Magic Line.” Most days, the people reporting on it have no real fucking clue what the markets are doing or reacting to.

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darthstar  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:04:30am

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:05:09am

re: #302 Ming5000

I think the tofu dregs applies to domestic Chinese construction and maybe products. Chinese construction exists of bad or no regulations and corruption from both the government and the companies.

The Chinese manufacturing for industries where Chinese companies want to compete internationally have developed well and are good now.

Yeah, I think global leaders in large scale hydro (dams) and high-speed rail. (Some guitar players take advantage of their super-cheap guitar pedal knock offs even as there’s supposedly some real innovation from Chinese makers.)

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:05:52am

re: #202 Dopamine Fish

Super unlucky today. I REALLY need to start guessing the uncommon letters earlier.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:06:03am

re: #303 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And there are Russian sentences that do not need a subject: “Raindrops are falling” in Russian can be expressed in one verb that just assumes a subject: капает (kápaet) or with a reflexive form, which the verb does something itself.

It just means that there are a lot more grammatical options for weaseling one’s way out of responsibility.

“It is raining.” Plus, as I noted above, the passive construction. All bureaucratic languages are loaded with weasel words and constructions. This is, as I said, silly.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:06:58am

Oh boy. Talk about a punishment.

I got my first loss. :(
Relied on your hints & got burned.

Wordle 265 X/6

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Belafon  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:07:16am

re: #312 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

“It is raining.” Plus, as I noted above, the passive construction. All bureaucratic languages are loaded with weasel words and constructions. This is, as I said, silly.

I guess the real question is how easy is it in Russian to write a direct sentence.

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:07:42am

I got lucky this time.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:08:00am

re: #314 Belafon

I guess the real question is how easy is it in Russian to write a direct sentence.

As easy as it is in English.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:08:44am

Showa Emperor (Hirohito) to the Japanese people: “…the war situation has developed not necessarily to Japan’s advantage, while the general trends of the world have all turned against her interest.”

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Ming5000  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:09:04am

It appears two generals have been killed in the last 24 hours. A one star and a two star.

These kinds of deaths have an impact.

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lizardofid  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:10:15am

re: #313 HRH Stanley Sea

Oh boy. Talk about a punishment.

I got my first loss. :(
Relied on your hints & got burned.

Wordle 265 X/6

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I believe in poker that would be considered a bad beat.

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Ming5000  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:12:02am

re: #319 lizardofid

“Hints were followed”

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:13:58am

re: #320 Ming5000

“Hints were followed”

“Selves were fucked.”

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:14:01am

If you’re old enough to have seen “The Day After” then you’re probably acquainted with some of these details. Happy reading!

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darthstar  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:15:53am

re: #318 Ming5000

It appears two generals have been killed in the last 24 hours. A one star and a two star.

These kinds of deaths have an impact.

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Dangerman  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:16:01am
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Belafon  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:16:38am
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sizzzzlerz  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:16:53am

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4th triple in a row! This keeps up, I’m goin’ to Vegas, baby!

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Jay C  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:17:59am

re: #313 HRH Stanley Sea

Oh boy. Talk about a punishment.

I got my first loss. :(
Relied on your hints & got burned.

Wordle 265 X/6

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Man, that’s just plain bad luck, Stanley: seven English words with that spelling, and you picked the six wrong ones…
But I can see why: no snark intended.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:18:00am

re: #325 Belafon

Putin: “The Soviet Union always lived under sanctions and succeeded.”

Until 1991…

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darthstar  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:18:08am

re: #322 Barefoot Grin

If you’re old enough to have seen “The Day After” then you’re probably acquainted with some of these details. Happy reading!

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We didn’t go to war when Russia helped Assad kill thousands of his own people. NATO may get involved, but it won’t happen until Putin oversteps a border and tries to blame the victim.

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lizardofid  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:19:39am

re: #324 Dangerman

So the Russians are attempting to deploy the trump gambit.

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:20:05am

re: #227 Dr Lizardo

I certainly hope so. The former foreign minister here is of the opinion that NATO would be willing to abandon the Baltic states to their fate because they’re too afraid of a direct conflict with Russia.

Trump would have abandoned all of Europe to Putin, his master, without a second thought. But Biden definitely won’t and neither would the Democrats or most of the GOP.

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Belafon  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:20:55am

re: #322 Barefoot Grin

If you’re old enough to have seen “The Day After” then you’re probably acquainted with some of these details. Happy reading!

I can’t read them at work, but, as someone who did watch The Day After, and talked about the possibility of nuclear war with classmates throughout my childhood, I will say that you have to act as if there isn’t going to be a nuclear war, because you will completely shut down otherwise. We confronted a nuclear Russia before. No one in eastern Europe wants to go back to the era of Soviet control, and we don’t want the conflicts all across Europe that would get us back there.

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Belafon  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:22:29am
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b.d  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:22:33am

The Russians are losing more generals than Al-Queda lost guys who were 2nd in command.

//

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:24:34am

re: #334 b.d

The Russians are losing more generals than Al-Queda lost guys who were 2nd in command.

//

If the UKR forces don’t stop killing generals, Russian performance will improve.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:24:41am

re: #332 Belafon

I can’t read them at work, but, as someone did watch The Day After, and talked about the possibility of nuclear war with classmates throughout my childhood, I will say that you have to act as if there isn’t going to be a nuclear war, because you will completely shut down otherwise. We confronted a nuclear Russia before. No one in eastern Europe wants to go back to the era of Soviet control, and we don’t want the conflicts all across Europe that would get us back there.

Yes, I was a college freshman. It was haunting. And then we went to a keg party.

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Dopamine Fish  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:25:40am

As expected. Republicans in the South are running roughshod over our rights, and the Supreme Court is content to sit back and allow it to happen, because they personally feel our rights are immoral. I hate it here.

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Belafon  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:25:55am
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darthstar  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:26:08am

re: #324 Dangerman

Belarus isn’t that stupid.

Hopefully Putin’s pilots try to make it look convincing and take out all of his artillery and anti-aircraft installations in Belarus.

Hey, puppet, march into Ukraine with us!
Nyet, comrade…too much mud.
Look, Ukrainians shooting at you!

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wrenchwench  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:26:23am

re: #326 sizzzzlerz

re: #313 HRH Stanley Sea

Could have had a 3, could have had a 7. Five works.

Click to Reveal

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Belafon  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:26:50am

The delta is exactly the number of those types of planes Ukraine claims to have downed:

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:28:10am

re: #202 Dopamine Fish

I lucked out.

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Belafon  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:28:31am

re: #338 Belafon

Reload

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b.d  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:28:35am

re: #335 Decatur Deb

If the UKR forces don’t stop killing generals, Russian performance will improve.

Not sure where the line is where the generals start defecting and ask to report them kia?

Beats the prospects of reporting back to Putin.

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JC1  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:28:59am

re: #169 Targetpractice

I think if we’re asking ourselves “What would China do?,” then we’re in very real danger of becoming a dictatorship ourselves.

I don’t follow. We shouldn’t try to anticipate how other major powers would react?

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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:30:34am

re: #233 Florida Panhandler

Putin has shown himself to be a terrible active military commander and an even worse strategist. He has long believed his own propaganda that the West and NATO are weak, chase money over anything else (well, he almost got that one right), and lack any real resolve.

However under Putin there are assuredly those (who like living and breathing ) who know otherwise and will hopefully remove the problem off of the game board if Putin tries to initiate nuke launches. I can imagine a hallway shootout between FSB members and Putin’s own Pretorian Guard.

Putin’s problem was that he didn’t understand that he had a Potemkin army. He believed, based on its past military successes, that it could take over an entire neighboring nation without any serious backlash, as he did with Georgia and Crimea. A successful occupation is another story, but the initial invasion was assumed to be a simple project. This is what happens when you surround yourself with yes-men who won’t contradict your narrative and when your entire system is composed of corrupt officials who not only siphon off some money for themselves but do it at the expense of a functioning military.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:31:24am

re: #314 Belafon

I guess the real question is how easy is it in Russian to write a direct sentence.

Easy enough if you (for some inexplicable reason) want to be direct

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:31:50am

re: #234 William Lewis

Article 5. Either NATO ends they defend the Baltic states to the bitter end.

My money is on defend. Especially now that the Bear’s teeth are show to badly need a dentist ;)

If they don’t, NATO has no purpose.

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Sherlock Hound  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:31:56am

re: #310 Barefoot Grin

Yeah, I think global leaders in large scale hydro (dams) and high-speed rail. (Some guitar players take advantage of their super-cheap guitar pedal knock offs even as there’s supposedly some real innovation from Chinese makers.)

Communications equipment, particularly amateur radio, and commercial land mobile. The Japanese had a lock on this market for many years, and radios were expensive. The Chinese are building very good, even innovative, rigs. I could not have afforded an HF rig until Xiegu came out with one several years ago. Now it is possible to buy an entry-level HF radio for $300 in 2022 dollars. Of course, Baofeng is famous for their cheap VHF/UHF handhelds that the Russians are using.

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darthstar  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:32:07am

re: #344 b.d

Not sure where the line is where the generals start defecting and ask to report them kia?

Beats the prospects of reporting back to Putin.

Especially if you have a Swiss bank account to fall back on…I’ll be in Ibiza!

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The Pie Overlord!  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:33:21am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:33:29am

re: #324 Dangerman

Ukraine is kicking ass so hard against the Russians they need more ass to whoop!

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:34:57am

Morning Lizards. What do you mean it isn’t Sunday? Hush. Sit down and eat before it gets cold.

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darthstar  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:36:45am

re: #352 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Ukraine is kicking ass so hard against the Russians they need more ass to whoop!

They don’t need more ass to whoop. The Russians need reinforcements and Putin’s pissed they’re not forthcoming.

Zelenskyy can release a statement to Belarus saying he respects their decision to not send troops to battle - but thanks for the 400 or so troops who came to fight along side Ukrainians - and while he wishes they didn’t host Russian artillery, he is plenty busy protecting his people and won’t be attacking any time soon.

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Belafon  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:37:42am
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Dangerman  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:39:43am

re: #339 darthstar

[Embedded content]

Belarus isn’t that stupid.

Hopefully Putin’s pilots try to make it look convincing and take out all of his artillery and anti-aircraft installations in Belarus.

Hey, puppet, march into Ukraine with us!
Nyet, comrade…too much mud.
Look, Ukrainians shooting at you!

do they think no one’s tracking every single plane’s movements on radar?
where they came from
where they return to

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Dangerman  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:41:02am

re: #346 Hecuba’s daughter

Putin’s problem was that he didn’t understand that he had a Potemkin army. He believed, based on its past military successes, that it could take over an entire neighboring nation without any serious backlash, as he did with Georgia and Crimea. A successful occupation is another story, but the initial invasion was assumed to be a simple project. This is what happens when you surround yourself with yes-men who won’t contradict your narrative and when your entire system is composed of corrupt officials who not only siphon off some money for themselves but do it at the expense of a functioning military.

+1

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Belafon  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:41:28am
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darthstar  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:42:37am

re: #356 Dangerman

do they think no one’s tracking every single plane’s movements on radar?
where they came from
where they return to

It was American Indians…they were even wearing war paint!

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No Malarkey!  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:42:50am

re: #333 Belafon

No more international travel for Putin, other than places like China and Saudi Arabia.

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JC1  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:43:48am

re: #300 Ming5000

Huh:

The 1st sentence is hilarious and the 2nd is true. The statement means nothing and the stock market reacts??

Lots of hopiun. Markets were already down over 10% for the year before Putin’s adventure started. Investors just looking for any excuse to jump back in. Ruble climbing back makes 0 sense. The sanctions are not going away and investment money is not flowing back into Russia. Moscow stock exchange still closed.

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darthstar  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:44:09am

re: #358 Belafon

Covid-19 is still a national security issue. Military funding can be repurposed for this.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:45:51am

re: #354 darthstar

They don’t need more ass to whoop. The Russians need reinforcements and Putin’s pissed they’re not forthcoming.

I was just pointing out how absurd it would be for Ukraine to want to bring more opponents into the war at this point.

It will be important to note how this all plays out with Belarus. They must have likewise assumed that Ukraine would be a pushover and that they would be rewarded for their part in covering Putin’s six.

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darthstar  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:46:21am

re: #361 JC1

Lots of hopiun. Markets were already down over 10% for the year before Putin’s adventure started. Investors just looking for any excuse to jump back in. Ruble climbing back makes 0 sense. The sanctions are not going away and investment money is not flowing back into Russia. Moscow stock exchange still closed.

And just like that it’s back to .0075 - down .0010 from an hour ago. Thank you. Knock it down another quarter. I want .0050 to be the new ceiling.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:46:27am

re: #358 Belafon

If we run out of tests, then infection rates go down!!!

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darthstar  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:47:37am

re: #363 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I was just pointing out how absurd it would be for Ukraine to want to bring more opponents into the war at this point.

It will be important to note how this all plays out with Belarus. They must have likewise assumed that Ukraine would be a pushover and that they would be rewarded for their part in covering Putin’s six.

They appeared ready to march in with Russia, but after the first two days of shit show hit the pause button.

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darthstar  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:49:01am

re: #365 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If we run out of tests, then infection rates go down!!!

Use the same swab on 20 people. If it’s positive, tell them all to isolate or 10 days. Just try to be the first person to get swabbed in that case.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:50:01am

re: #364 darthstar

And just like that it’s back to .0075 - down .0010 from an hour ago. Thank you. Knock it down another quarter. I want .0050 to be the new ceiling.

Russian citizens are no longer allowed to sell their Rubles. Just like in Soviet times.

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Sherlock Hound  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:51:57am
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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:52:58am

re: #315 The Pie Overlord!

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darthstar  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:53:09am
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Hecuba's daughter  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:54:03am

re: #318 Ming5000

It appears two generals have been killed in the last 24 hours. A one star and a two star.

These kinds of deaths have an impact.

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Are these the same ones announced by the Ukrainians a few days ago?

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darthstar  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:55:08am

re: #369 Sherlock Hound

Need the whole thread:

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lizardofid  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:56:38am

re: #360 No Malarkey!

No more international travel for Putin, other than places like China and Saudi Arabia.

Or his Red Sea Dacha in Eritrea.

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darthstar  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:58:08am

re: #374 lizardofid

Or his Red Sea Dacha in Eritrea.

I’m sure Edward Snowden is great company.

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Belafon  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:58:26am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 11, 2022 • 7:58:55am

re: #358 Belafon

The United States is poised to run out of tests, treatments and vaccines to fight coronavirus after a $15.6 billion funding plan collapsed in Congress.

USA! USA! USA!

//

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steve_davis  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:02:03am

re: #312 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

“It is raining.” Plus, as I noted above, the passive construction. All bureaucratic languages are loaded with weasel words and constructions. This is, as I said, silly.

“It is raining” is not passive voice. Just throwing that out there.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:03:28am

It was two years ago today (3/11/20) that the WHO declared the then-emerging Covid-19 virus to be a global pandemic.

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Jay C  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:05:58am

re: #363 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I was just pointing out how absurd it would be for Ukraine to want to bring more opponents into the war at this point.

It will be important to note how this all plays out with Belarus. They must have likewise assumed that Ukraine would be a pushover and that they would be rewarded for their part in covering Putin’s six.

Probably not going to play out very well. Not that I’m an expert, but from all accounts, Belarus was already (well before the Ukrainian invasion) a Russian client/puppet-state, with classic Soviet-style government; i.e. a nominal “democracy” but de facto a dictatorship with Soviet-style attitudes towards opposition politics.
President Lukashenko probably (correctly) felt he had no choice but to back Putin (too many windows in Minsk); but it’s not really a great deal. As I see it, the endgame for Belarus (as a “country”) is going to be either outright reabsorption into Russia, or a “strengthening of fraternal ties” which will amount to the same thing.
Of course, actually asserting their independence, and seeking improved relations and trade with the EU would be a better outcome, but notgonnahappen. Because Russian….

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:07:02am

re: #369 Sherlock Hound

His equivalent rank is questionable, but I’ve seen the Kadyrov contingent ex-commander compared to an MG.

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Florida Panhandler  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:09:53am

re: #344 b.d

Not sure where the line is where the generals start defecting and ask to report them kia?

Beats the prospects of reporting back to Putin.

Unfortunately I’m sure Putin has a tight control over the locations of his General’s families and business interests for that matter.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:12:34am

Don’t know how generous the Russians are with stars, but the US Army is restricted to a cap of 231 General officers.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:13:56am

re: #378 steve_davis

“It is raining” is not passive voice. Just throwing that out there.

No, and neither is the Russian construction ralphieboy mentioned. Just throwing out the ways English can note an action without also mentioning an agent.

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Florida Panhandler  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:15:25am

re: #371 darthstar

The horror…

The horror…

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darthstar  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:18:05am

re: #385 Florida Panhandler

The horror…

The horror…

Gotta love that spaniel at the end. Oh shit, oh shit, oh shit…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:19:42am

re: #336 Barefoot Grin

Yes, I was a college freshman. It was haunting. And then we went to a keg party.

I was floating around on an aircraft carrier somewhere in the Mediterranean Sea. We lived with the knowledge every day we were a floating target, with “special weapons” aboard.

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William Lewis  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:21:23am

Huh, that’s odd.

I have the “show tweet” box clicked. The tweets don’t show up.

If I uncheck it, then they show up.

I wonder if this is simply a Microsoft Edge oddity?

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Dopamine Fish  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:22:00am

re: #388 William Lewis

Huh, that’s odd.

I have the “show tweet” box clicked. The tweets don’t show up.

If I uncheck it, then they show up.

I wonder if this is simply a Microsoft Edge oddity?

It’s Opposite Day.

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William Lewis  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:22:34am

re: #387 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I was floating around on an aircraft carrier somewhere in the Mediterranean Sea. We lived with the knowledge every day we were a floating target, with “special weapons” aboard.

Every Kasern in Germany was a target. We expected the first shot to be chemical warheads popping overhead and seeing if we could get to our gag bags fast enough.

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lizardofid  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:25:19am

Sorry, I have some gaps in my LGF scrolling the last few days. Did ya’ll discuss, and come to any kind of consensus? Are there more windows or wheels in the world?

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Teukka  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:32:06am

Youtube Video

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:33:49am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:34:43am
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Dopamine Fish  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:34:49am

re: #393 Backwoods_Sleuth

If they start calling 911, they are going to be the ones arrested. Cops and dispatchers tend to take a dim view of people wasting their time.

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ericblair  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:35:45am

re: #384 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

No, and neither is the Russian construction ralphieboy mentioned. Just throwing out the ways English can note an action without also mentioning an agent.

I guess if we’re going to continue to noodle about this, Russian is like Spanish as the subject pronoun is mostly unnecessary and can be dropped. So, the easiest way to say something indirectly is just to not insert a subject: “mistakes were made” becomes “made mistakes.” No actual passive construction required. Formal Russian is full of this stuff, as is passive construction in formal English (and Microsoft Word bitching about it because it’s stupid).

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Teukka  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:36:43am

I had a gut feeling this would happen, that there’d be a hard push to go green and renewable, so even if Vladimir and his cronies fold, the effect in terms of less dependence on oil and related products will be permanent…

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Teukka  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:37:14am

OMG, Russian UN Ambassador is going cringe…

Youtube Video

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:37:27am

re: #390 William Lewis

Every Kasern in Germany was a target. We expected the first shot to be chemical warheads popping overhead and seeing if we could get to our gag bags fast enough.

After the wall fell we found that our tiny installation in Italy had reservations for two 500kt missiles homed in Hungary. I grew up in 1950s Pittsburgh, so that had no impact.

(The sad part is that our base was in the middle of a UN World Heritage site, home of a lot of Palladio’s villas.)

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:37:37am

re: #393 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Yes, who could have thought that fucking up farther already fuckup traffic for their commute wouldn’t endear them to you.

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Barefoot Grin  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:41:21am

re: #396 ericblair

I guess if we’re going to continue to noodle about this, Russian is like Spanish as the subject pronoun is mostly unnecessary and can be dropped. So, the easiest way to say something indirectly is just to not insert a subject: “mistakes were made” becomes “made mistakes.” No actual passive construction required. Formal Russian is full of this stuff, as is passive construction in formal English (and Microsoft Word bitching about it because it’s stupid).

The passive voice in Japanese can just be passive, but it also is sometimes a form of honorific.

ETA: they also have a form called the “suffering passive” in English. So, you can actually use a systematic verb form to say things like “[I] got rained [on]” or “[somebody] died [on me].” It’s been many years since I taught it, so I feel like I’m forgetting something.

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Dangerman  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:42:17am

re: #400 Eventual Carrion

Yes, who could have thought that fucking up farther already fuckup traffic for their commute wouldn’t endear them to you.

c’mon guys
a handful of trucks
come to a full stop and block all lanes of traffic on the loop

that’ll get you the attention you’re after

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:47:27am

re: #393 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cause a couple of accidents and see what happens to your insurance rates.

Real geniuses these guys.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:50:05am

re: #400 Eventual Carrion

Yes, who could have thought that fucking up farther already fuckup traffic for their commute wouldn’t endear them to you.

I think that most of these morons have never driven through the DC area traffic before. They seem completely unaware of…everything.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:51:09am

re: #390 William Lewis

Every Kasern in Germany was a target. We expected the first shot to be chemical warheads popping overhead and seeing if we could get to our gag bags fast enough.

and as I have mentioned, there were missile silos at the head of our little side valley off the Rhine. We would have been plastered to glowing glass.

I am less concerned about nuclear weapons as I am about a nuke plant going up. Prevailing winds are from the West but they can shift…

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jeffreyw  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:51:15am

re: #296 Eventual Carrion

Wonder if the woodpecker has money on that fight?

Cardinals are one of the most disputatious birds, along with male hummers. Jay birds and woodpeckers are loudmouths but not especially territorial.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:53:55am

re: #397 Teukka

I had a gut feeling this would happen, that there’d be a hard push to go green and renewable, so even if Vladimir and his cronies fold, the effect in terms of less dependence on oil and related products will be permanent…

[Embedded content]

We have had every chance since 1973 to wean ourselves off dependence on energy supplies from unsavory rulers of undemocratic nations but there was always the argument that our people would scream bloody murder at the thought.

Then we had a decade of cheap oil during the Iraq-Iran war and lost all thought of it

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:54:47am

re: #402 Dangerman

c’mon guys
a handful of trucks
come to a full stop and block all lanes of traffic on the loop

that’ll get you the attention you’re after

If it is not against the law to run over pedestrians blocking public roads, is it legal to drive a tank over vehicles doing the same?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:54:59am

re: #377 Eclectic Cyborg

USA! USA! USA!

//

Not collapsed in Congress. Blocked by Republicans so they can continue their genocide, sacrificing Americans on the altar of the Church of Conservatism.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:55:04am

re: #406 jeffreyw

Cardinals are one of the most disputatious birds, along with male hummers. Jay birds and woodpeckers are loudmouths but not especially territorial.

I learned a new word today. Thanks!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:56:14am

re: #406 jeffreyw

Cardinals are one of the most disputatious birds, along with male hummers. Jay birds and woodpeckers are loudmouths but not especially territorial.

are they litigious as well?

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Belafon  Mar 11, 2022 • 8:56:39am

re: #408 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If it is not against the law to run over pedestrians blocking public roads, is it legal to drive a tank over vehicles doing the same?

Maybe some Ukrainian farmers can loan us a couple to find out.

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No Malarkey!  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:05:00am

Russia has already threatened to bring the ISS down in Europe or the U.S.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:06:20am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:06:50am

re: #367 darthstar

Use the same swab on 20 people. If it’s positive, tell them all to isolate or 10 days. Just try to be the first person to get swabbed in that case.

Or you take 20 swabs and mass test them. If there is a positive than you have a smaller group to concentrate further testing on.

Essentially approach taken over the past year or two where my brother teaches. They take a lot of samples and test them in groups.

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Dopamine Fish  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:07:17am

re: #413 No Malarkey!

Russia has already threatened to bring the ISS down in Europe or the U.S.

Much as I despise Elon Musk, it’s a damn good thing we have the capability to do manned spaceflights to the ISS again.

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darthstar  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:07:33am

re: #413 No Malarkey!

Russia has already threatened to bring the ISS down in Europe or the U.S.

[Embedded content]

Dust off the shuttle.

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Jay C  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:08:04am

re: #413 No Malarkey!

Russia has already threatened to bring the ISS down in Europe or the U.S.

Though I did hear that the (US) government might look to SpaceX for a hand. SRSLY, it’s not like a stranded astronaut can just call an Uber…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:08:26am

re: #413 No Malarkey!

Russia is now threatening to leave US astronaut Mark Vande Hei behind on the International Space Station. He is scheduled to return to earth with 2 cosmonauts after a year in space on a Russian ship in 3 weeks.

That would be the height of nasty. I am hoping that NASA is working on a contingency plan to recover or resupply him.

I think we should send Bezos, Musk and Branson up an old Apollo capsule to do the job (at their own expense)

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Jay C  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:09:36am

re: #419 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That would be the height of nasty. I am hoping that NASA is working on a contingency plan to recover or resupply him.

I think we should send Bezos, Musk and Branson up an old Apollo capsule to do the job (at their own expense)

Why waste government resources? It’s not like those guys don’t have their own spacecraft.

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Dopamine Fish  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:12:13am

re: #420 Jay C

Why waste government resources? It’s not like those guys don’t have their own spacecraft.

One of which, the Crew Dragon, has docked with the ISS before, albeit on a test flight. If they can get a Dragon flight on the pad in a short time frame (short by spaceflight standards), there’s little reason to fear.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:13:55am

re: #380 Jay C

Probably not going to play out very well. Not that I’m an expert, but from all accounts, Belarus was already (well before the Ukrainian invasion) a Russian client/puppet-state, with classic Soviet-style government; i.e. a nominal “democracy” but de facto a dictatorship with Soviet-style attitudes towards opposition politics.
President Lukashenko probably (correctly) felt he had no choice but to back Putin (too many windows in Minsk); but it’s not really a great deal. As I see it, the endgame for Belarus (as a “country”) is going to be either outright reabsorption into Russia, or a “strengthening of fraternal ties” which will amount to the same thing.
Of course, actually asserting their independence, and seeking improved relations and trade with the EU would be a better outcome, but notgonnahappen. Because Russian….

Wasn’t Minsk the USSR city that got nuked in Sir John Hacket’s World War III novel from the late 70s?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:15:06am
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ericblair  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:16:06am

Another military analyst thread. TL;DR: Russia still looks pretty fucked. There was a report going around yesterday worrying about the Southern flank and how Russia has more materiel there, but it ignored the logistics, personnel, and morale issues that didn’t just go away.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:16:28am

re: #402 Dangerman

c’mon guys
a handful of trucks
come to a full stop and block all lanes of traffic on the loop

that’ll get you the attention you’re after

And some consequences as well. But they should be prepared for that if their intent is to protest and cause inconvenience.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:16:45am
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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:18:24am

re: #407 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Wasn’t the EU talking about doing exactly this in February right before the Russians crossed the border into Ukraine.

I think Germany and the others were clearly seeing the political ramifications of being resource tied to Russia and also looking to start reducing it before it was used further to blackmail them.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:18:29am

re: #393 Backwoods_Sleuth

Isn’t flooding 9/11 with fake calls a crime?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:18:32am

not all Amtrak, but the ones Biden rode are electric.

some people are just gleefully ignorant.

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nines09  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:19:03am

Earlier this week I posted video of that drunk woman crashing at high speed and ending up on the roof of a restaurant here. She was hospitalized and I was a bit befuddled at the lack of information on her. In my experience that speaks of her family either having money or power. So all was on the DL, she was in the hospital, not supervised, and released while the charges where finally being written. It said jail time baby.
Guess what? She split. Can’t find her. Gone. If that was my ass I would have been cuffed to the hospital bed with 24/7 cop at the door.
Interesting. We shall see.

Police charge, search for driver of wild wreck in Shamokin Dam
A week after a wild crash in central Pennsylvania, the driver faces a slew of charges, but police can’t track her down.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:19:25am

re: #424 ericblair

Another military analyst thread. TL;DR: Russia still looks pretty fucked. There was a report going around yesterday worrying about the Southern flank and how Russia has more materiel there, but it ignored the logistics, personnel, and morale issues that didn’t just go away.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:20:00am

re: #408 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If it is not against the law to run over pedestrians blocking public roads, is it legal to drive a tank over vehicles doing the same?

Youtube Video

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jeffreyw  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:20:48am

re: #411 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

are they litigious as well?

They were in olden times before all of them were judged vexatious for being contumacious.

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Sherlock Hound  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:20:59am

re: #422 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Wasn’t Minsk the USSR city that got nuked in Sir John Hacket’s World War III novel from the late 70s?

“The Third World War: August 1985”
Minsk was nuked, as was Birmingham, UK.

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Wile E. Wonka  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:23:51am

re: #425 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

And some consequences as well. But they should be prepared for that if their intent is to protest and cause inconvenience.

So lemme see if I got this straight…

These guys came to block traffic, and the good citizens of the Beltway wouldn’t let ‘em.

So they called the cops on ‘em?

And the cops wouldn’t answer, so now they want to speak to a manager?

#KarenKonvoyKrusaders

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Jay C  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:24:29am

re: #421 Dopamine Fish

One of which, the Crew Dragon, has docked with the ISS before, albeit on a test flight. If they can get a Dragon flight on the pad in a short time frame (short by spaceflight standards), there’s little reason to fear.

TBH, I’d be more worried for Vande Hei’s safety if the Russians DID take him back, rather than just leaving him on the ISS. While I realize it sounds like the plot from some TV sci-fi thriller, I’d be more concerned that the Russians would sub out the usual replacement cosmonaut crew with a couple of “reliable” military guys, and simply seize the Space Station for Mother Russia (as a “reparation” for Earthbound asset seizures), and threaten to destroy it. Or use it as a propaganda platform - and then destroy it….

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HRH Stanley Sea  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:25:26am

re: #430 nines09

Just like my car would’ve been impounded if I was caught driving with a suspended license…..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:25:42am
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Belafon  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:28:29am

re: #429 Backwoods_Sleuth

some people are just gleefully ignorant.

I think you mean “Some people are always looking for a way to be mean.” They would be standing outside the Sermon on the Mount complaining that Jesus is depriving fishers and bread makers of a profit.

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nines09  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:28:38am

re: #437 HRH Stanley Sea

Bingo.
That cretin should not be allowed to OWN a car. Because he cannot be trusted. Danger to society. Scofflaw.
So why should anyone obey the law? He doesn’t and he pays no penalty.
Do not attempt if black or poor.
Or a black poor woman.

441
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:28:59am

re: #430 nines09

Earlier this week I posted video of that drunk woman crashing at high speed and ending up on the roof of a restaurant here. She was hospitalized and I was a bit befuddled at the lack of information on her. In my experience that speaks of her family either having money or power. So all was on the DL, she was in the hospital, not supervised, and released while the charges where finally being written. It said jail time baby.
Guess what? She split. Can’t find her. Gone. If that was my ass I would have been cuffed to the hospital bed with 24/7 cop at the door.
Interesting. We shall see.

Police charge, search for driver of wild wreck in Shamokin Dam
A week after a wild crash in central Pennsylvania, the driver faces a slew of charges, but police can’t track her down.

Whoever that car manufacturer is, they’d be missing an opportunity to show that wreck and that people walked away from it. That was something. Jesus.

442
Sherlock Hound  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:29:13am

re: #436 Jay C

TBH, I’d be more worried for Vande Hei’s safety if the Russians DID take him back, rather than just leaving him on the ISS. While I realize it sounds like the plot from some TV sci-fi thriller, I’d be more concerned that the Russians would sub out the usual replacement cosmonaut crew with a couple of “reliable” military guys, and simply seize the Space Station for Mother Russia (as a “reparation” for Earthbound asset seizures), and threaten to destroy it. Or use it as a propaganda platform - and then destroy it….

Crew Dragon is scheduled for May. That doesn’t count the “private” mission to the ISS that SpaceX is flying at the end of March. I haven’t heard if Boeing is going to fly this year. I must think that interference would be the redline for us, or Russia (We don’t need to play games with that, and we won’t.)

443
Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:29:50am

re: #395 Dopamine Fish

If they start calling 911, they are going to be the ones arrested. Cops and dispatchers tend to take a dim view of people wasting their time.

That exactly what the MAGAts started doing during the Ottawa protest.

444
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:33:44am

re: #435 Wile E. Wonka

So lemme see if I got this straight…

These guys came to block traffic, and the good citizens of the Beltway wouldn’t let ‘em.

So they called the cops on ‘em?

And the cops wouldn’t answer, so now they want to speak to a manager?

#KarenKonvoyKrusaders

Don’t forget that they are terribly threatened by three girls in a Hyundai who flipped them off (gently, semi bent finger), so they’re scared to go back out into the wilds of DC.

445
Ming5000  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:34:28am

re: #372 Hecuba’s daughter

Are these the same ones announced by the Ukrainians a few days ago?

I tried to cross check. I didn’t see a match with older reports, and the tweets reflected breaking news. But, who know. I don’t have good verification

446
Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:35:40am

re: #440 nines09

Bingo.
That cretin should not be allowed to OWN a car. Because he cannot be trusted. Danger to society. Scofflaw.
So why should anyone obey the law? He doesn’t and he pays no penalty.
Do not attempt if black or poor.
Or a black poor woman.

The 20 yr old who sideswiped Granddaughter2 a couple days ago was on bail from an earlier incident. He has a vehicular manslaughter court date for that one in May. No license, no insurance, of course.

447
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:36:20am

re: #395 Dopamine Fish

If they start calling 911, they are going to be the ones arrested. Cops and dispatchers tend to take a dim view of people wasting their time.

re: #443 Eclectic Cyborg

That exactly what the MAGAts started doing during the Ottawa protest.

What’s the over/under that these MAGA truckers could manage to call the correct police? Even in the correct country?

448
Belafon  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:37:09am

re: #426 Patricia Kayden

Not sure what MFA is supposed to stand for, but my brain pronounces it as mafia.

449
Teukka  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:38:23am

re: #448 Belafon

Not sure what MFA is supposed to stand for, but my brain pronounces it as mafia.

M-F:ing Aho
(google translate the word, it’s japanese)

450
Dangerman  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:38:34am

re: #429 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

some people are just gleefully ignorant.

um…just a week ago

Postal Service Defies Biden Administration, Moving Forward With Plan To Buy Gas-Powered Mail Trucks

451
Sherlock Hound  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:38:54am

Yes, Sergei, very good work from the troll farm…

452
Belafon  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:39:42am

re: #426 Patricia Kayden

I also love how that statement from the MFA sounds like something from Fox.

453
Ming5000  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:39:55am

uh oh.. it looks like the pretense at the Belarus border may have been part of a plan.

454
sizzzzlerz  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:39:55am

re: #371 darthstar

Attack of the Good Boys!

455
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:43:00am

re: #451 Sherlock Hound

Yes, Sergei, very good work from the troll farm…

Was that tweet supposed to make some kind of sense? Cuz if it is, I’m missing it.

456
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:44:01am

re: #429 Backwoods_Sleuth

some people are just gleefully ignorant.

Just looking for a talking point without doing their research because they know that nobody in their audience would notice.

457
Jay C  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:45:28am

re: #450 Dangerman

It’s just the usual Fox Fux nonsense: and, tbh, is getting even less appropriate with an actual war going on. Mostly like:

Pete Doocy: “We have a report that President Biden suffered a debilitating stoke this morning and can’t see, speak or walk. Can you comment on this?”

Jen Psaki: “That’s completely ridiculous. And false.”

Fox News evening headline: WHO’S IN CHARGE?? WH REFUSES COMMENT ON BIDEN STROKE REPORT!!!

458
Teukka  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:45:30am
459
Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:45:59am

re: #455 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Was that tweet supposed to make some kind of sense? Cuz if it is, I’m missing it.

Per Freepers, DDG has gone “woke”, throttling RW bullshit. That could be the fall.

460
jaunte  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:46:59am

re: #449 Teukka

Museum of Fine Arts Houston tags its attendees with little MFAH stickers.

461
nines09  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:47:19am

re: #459 Decatur Deb

Yes. They are blocking most RU addressed sites. Cutting the lies. No platform for them. Closing the door. Good for them.

462
Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:48:55am

re: #453 Ming5000

uh oh.. it looks like the pretense at the Belarus border may have been part of a plan.

9 PM Kiev time is 2 PM Eastern.

463
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:48:56am

re: #461 nines09

Yes. They are blocking most RU addressed sites. Cutting the lies. No platform for them. Closing the door. Good for them.

“Media Censorship!”

464
nines09  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:50:44am

re: #463 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Type moscow.ru in DDG. Nope. Bigfoot shows up. No linky. Go to Brave Search and you are directed to Russian sites.

465
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:50:53am

re: #451 Sherlock Hound

Yes, Sergei, very good work from the troll farm…

Brave is a big fat red flag.

spyware.neocities.org

466
Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:51:13am

re: #461 nines09

Yes. They are blocking most RU addressed sites. Cutting the lies. No platform for them. Closing the door. Good for them.

I can’t remember if I saw it here or on the bird app, but it has been noticed that the number of anti-vax trolls have decreased with the blocking of .ru domains.

467
No Malarkey!  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:51:31am

re: #424 ericblair

Another military analyst thread. TL;DR: Russia still looks pretty fucked. There was a report going around yesterday worrying about the Southern flank and how Russia has more materiel there, but it ignored the logistics, personnel, and morale issues that didn’t just go away.

If this was Syria, I don’t think Russia would hesitate to use chemical or nerve agents, but in Ukraine, they have to consider the possibility that the horror could trigger NATO intervention.

468
Belafon  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:52:18am

re: #451 Sherlock Hound

Yes, Sergei, very good work from the troll farm…

[Embedded content]

I forget, what was DuckDuckGo again?

469
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:52:54am

re: #468 Belafon

I forget, what was DuckDuckGo again?

A search engine like Google that doesn’t track your data.

470
Sherlock Hound  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:52:57am

re: #455 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Was that tweet supposed to make some kind of sense? Cuz if it is, I’m missing it.

I guess it made sense in the Internet Research Agency!
/////

471
Dopamine Fish  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:53:16am

re: #469 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

A search engine like Google that doesn’t track your data.

They also had a (very crappy) iOS Web browser. I tried it for a while. It was flaming garbage, so I dropped it.

472
Belafon  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:54:19am

re: #466 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Both:

I posted the comment earlier in this thread.

473
nines09  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:54:39am

re: #441 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

474
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:55:29am

re: #469 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

A search engine like Google that doesn’t track your data.

ixquick.com is much better.

475
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:56:02am

If the Belorussians make a move on Uzhgorod, I am gonna have to go join the fight. My grandpa was born around 40 miles west of there (Davidov, Slovakia).

The only reason Uzhgorod is part of Ukraine (it used to be in the eastern tip of Slovakia) is that Stalin annexed that region after WW2 to give him direct access to Hungary without having to go through a third country, something that proved very useful in 1956…

476
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:56:06am
477
FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:56:06am

re: #469 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

A search engine like Google that doesn’t track your data.

Their main office is pretty close to my current digs.

And my assumption is that the guys I see in the diner on a regular basis talking shop about server storage, network stuff, etc. are probably a few of their employees.

478
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:57:31am
479
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:58:10am

re: #476 Backwoods_Sleuth

This will increasing be Putin’s tack: “Ukraine is being unreasonable and causing needless death and suffering by refusing to surrender!”

In sibling terms: “Why won’t Ukraine stop hitting itself?”

480
nines09  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:58:31am

re: #476 Backwoods_Sleuth

Israeli Prime Minister Bennett should shut the eff up.

481
Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:59:26am

re: #474 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

ixquick.com is much better.

It displays an endorsement by Edward Snowden.

“Be careful about what you share with large service providers… There are alternatives like Startpage…that don’t store that information.”

Edward Snowden
President of Freedom of the Press Foundation

482
Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 11, 2022 • 9:59:54am

re: #472 Belafon

Both:

[Embedded content]

I posted the comment earlier in this thread.

Thanks.

483
Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:00:09am

North Idaho GOP’s Batsh*t Plan: Take Over Local Democratic Party, Steal Donations, ?????, PROFIT (Wonkette)

And now it seems the Republicans in Kootenai County, which includes the area’s largest city, Coeur d’Alene, have been scheming to infiltrate and take over the local Democratic Party so they can install a repulsive antisemitic agitator as party chair, redirect Democratic political donations to rightwing causes, and generally brag about how clever they are.

Even more bizarrely, the Kootenai County Republican Central Committee (KCRCC, which is one letter too many to be a radio station) might just manage to pull it off, although local Democrats are mobilizing to head that off.

(more)

484
ericblair  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:01:00am

re: #479 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This will increasing be Putin’s tack: “Ukraine is being unreasonable and causing needless death and suffering by refusing to surrender!”

In sibling terms: “Why won’t Ukraine stop hitting itself?”

Yeah, and so if Russia feels so threatened by NATO, it should just surrender and avoid needless bloodshed. Oh, it doesn’t work that way? Wonder why.

485
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:03:13am

re: #484 ericblair

Yeah, and so if Russia feels so threatened by NATO, it should just surrender and avoid needless bloodshed. Oh, it doesn’t work that way? Wonder why.

Because they have nukes and Ukraine does not any more. Because they totally decommissioned their Soviet-Era Legacy nuclear arsenal (the fifth largest in the world at the time) in exchange for guarantees to protect and maintain their territorial integrity.

486
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:04:57am
487
Belafon  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:05:41am

re: #485 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because they have nukes and Ukraine does not any more. Because they totally decommissioned their Soviet-Era Legacy nuclear arsenal (the fifth largest in the world at the time) in exchange for guarantees to protect and maintain their territorial integrity.

Russia would act this way if there were no nukes. It’s because it thinks it has the right to own Ukraine.

488
No Malarkey!  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:05:55am

re: #476 Backwoods_Sleuth

Does anyone know enough about Israeli politics to explain why the PM is so pro-Russian?

489
JC1  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:06:15am

re: #485 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because they have nukes and Ukraine does not any more. Because they totally decommissioned their Soviet-Era Legacy nuclear arsenal (the fifth largest in the world at the time) in exchange for guarantees to protect and maintain their territorial integrity.

That was dumb of them. Clearly it’s a mistake to ever give up your WMDs

490
Eventual Carrion  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:06:38am

re: #429 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

some people are just gleefully ignorant.

If ignorance is bliss
why aren’t more people happy.

491
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:06:54am

re: #489 JC1

That was dumb of them. Clearly it’s a mistake to ever give up your WMDs

The rest of the world is taking note…

492
Crush White Nationalism  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:09:24am

Straight white people only, of course.

493
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:10:02am
494
No Malarkey!  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:10:27am

This would be sad if it wasn’t so funny!

495
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:12:46am

re: #493 Backwoods_Sleuth

The UK government says one reason it is refusing non-visa refugees is the fear of letting in Russian espionage agents

There would be more reason empirically to close down Cambridge University, if the fear was genuinely about Russian espionage

They are sick fucks thrashing around for excuses to be inhumane.

496
No Malarkey!  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:15:33am
497
Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:17:00am

re: #494 No Malarkey!

This would be sad if it wasn’t so funny!

J. Jonah Jameson Laughing

498
No Malarkey!  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:17:36am

re: #495 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are sick fucks thrashing around for excuses to be inhumane.

Much like the Trumpian “we can’t let Syrian refugees in, because some ISIS fighters might have gone through three years of vetting pretending to be refugees so that they might get to go to the U.S.”

499
Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:20:21am
500
Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:21:13am

re: #483 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

North Idaho GOP’s Batsh*t Plan: Take Over Local Democratic Party, Steal Donations, ?????, PROFIT (Wonkette)

(more)

What’s scary is it was a staunch republican that recorded the call and blew the whistle on them. He wanted no part in what he considers a immoral and unlawful attempt to steal money from the Democratic party.

501
steve_davis  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:27:26am

re: #434 Sherlock Hound

“The Third World War: August 1985”
Minsk was nuked, as was Birmingham, UK.

“So our plan has succeeded beyond my wildest imagings! Minsk, Belarus; and Birmingham, Alabama!”

(General): “Uhm———-“

502
ericblair  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:28:11am

re: #495 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They are sick fucks thrashing around for excuses to be inhumane.

It’s like nice normal white people in Florida having a hell of a time getting unemployment insurance during the first year of COVID; why was it this hard? It was completely broken and impossible to navigate because that’s how it was intended to be. Same with UK and immigration. And, of course, the Tories can’t fix anything for the same reason Republicans can’t fix anything: because they’re performative morons.

503
Hecuba's daughter  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:30:21am

re: #500 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

What’s scary is it was a staunch republican that recorded the call and blew the whistle on them. He wanted no part in what he considers a immoral and unlawful attempt to steal money from the Democratic party.

Isn’t more hopeful that there remain a few decent Republicans in as red a state as Idaho?

504
nines09  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:30:24am

re: #430 nines09

News is starting to filter in they found her in Lackawanna County which Scranton Wilkes Barre is in.
Good.

505
Florida Panhandler  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:30:47am

re: #413 No Malarkey!

Russia has already threatened to bring the ISS down in Europe or the U.S.

FYI Space X has a crew rotation docking in a matter of weeks, so no big deal.

506
Hecuba's daughter  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:32:06am

re: #502 ericblair

It’s like nice normal white people in Florida having a hell of a time getting unemployment insurance during the first year of COVID; why was it this hard? It was completely broken and impossible to navigate because that’s how it was intended to be. Same with UK and immigration. And, of course, the Tories can’t fix anything for the same reason Republicans can’t fix anything: because they’re performative morons.

They aren’t morons; they are evil and doing everything possible to destroy our democracy and turn us into a fascist oligarchic state.

507
Crush White Nationalism  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:33:41am

re: #500 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

What’s scary is it was a staunch republican that recorded the call and blew the whistle on them. He wanted no part in what he considers a immoral and unlawful attempt to steal money from the Democratic party.

It’s nice that there are Republicans that aren’t eager to commit crimes toward the goal of ending our democracy. I didn’t know they still existed.

508
Crush White Nationalism  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:35:10am

re: #506 Hecuba’s daughter

They aren’t morons; they are evil and doing everything possible to destroy our democracy and turn us into a fascist oligarchic state.

I’m pretty sure we’ve been an oligarchic state for a very long time, and it’s treated as the default in America, so getting people to vote for a fair society is a big challenge.

509
steve_davis  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:35:40am

re: #504 nines09

News is starting to filter in they found her in Lackawanna County which Scranton Wilkes Barre is in.
Good.

Nobody has ever been found in Wilkes Barre. Plenty of people have been lost there over the years, though.

510
Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:36:10am

re: #500 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

What’s scary is it was a staunch republican that recorded the call and blew the whistle on them. He wanted no part in what he considers a immoral and unlawful attempt to steal money from the Democratic party.

Imagine the GOP screeching if the parties in this scenario were flipped. Twitter would be on FIRE with hot takes about “Corrupt Liberals”.

511
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:38:49am

re: #500 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

What’s scary is it was a staunch republican that recorded the call and blew the whistle on them. He wanted no part in what he considers a immoral and unlawful attempt to steal money from the Democratic party.

Had it not been for a few Republican state electoral officials, TFG might still be President.

512
ericblair  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:40:21am

The internal warfare has started, looks like.

513
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:40:28am

re: #510 Eclectic Cyborg

Imagine the GOP screeching if the parties in this scenario were flipped. Twitter would be on FIRE with hot takes about “Corrupt Liberals”.

Twitter is all on fire right now on how this is a liberal hoax to make the GOP look bad and take over Idaho.

514
Dangerman  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:40:47am

He couldn’t just shut up
He had to both sides it

515
Hecuba's daughter  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:46:41am

re: #511 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Had it not been for a few Republican state electoral officials, TFG might still be President.

He wouldn’t have remained president, maybe dictator, because there would have been a real civil war. The Democrats would never have accepted a refusal to acknowledge Biden’s legitimate victory.

516
Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:47:04am

re: #503 Hecuba’s daughter

Isn’t more hopeful that there remain a few decent Republicans in as red a state as Idaho?

There are no decent republicans left in Idaho.

517
Hecuba's daughter  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:49:20am

re: #516 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

There are no decent republicans left in Idaho.

The person who blew the whistle should be acknowledged as someone who cared about the rules and fairness.

518
Eventual Carrion  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:56:50am

re: #465 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Brave is a big fat red flag.

spyware.neocities.org

It is a US government site to track people loyal to Putin {pass it on}

519
Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Mar 11, 2022 • 10:59:25am

re: #517 Hecuba’s daughter

The person who blew the whistle should be acknowledged as someone who cared about the rules and fairness.

Tell that to my Community. The one that Idaho’s legislature wants to utterly destroy.
520
John Hughes  Mar 11, 2022 • 12:44:54pm

re: #499 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s such a pity that Bush blew so much of the US’s credibility by sending Colin Powel to lie to the security council.

521
John Hughes  Mar 11, 2022 • 3:50:01pm

re: #499 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s such a pity that Bush blew so much of the US’s credibility by sending Colin Powel to lie to the security council.

522
John Hughes  Mar 11, 2022 • 3:51:30pm

re: #516 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

There are no decent republicans left in Idaho.


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