Support I Don’t Really Need
There’s nothing like a left-handed compliment from Andrew Sullivan to totally creep you out.
There’s nothing like a left-handed compliment from Andrew Sullivan to totally creep you out.
1 | Pious Agnostic Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:10:27pm |
Yuck…I followed the link and got some on me.
4 | Nevergiveup Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:10:58pm |
There’s no such thing as bad publicity. Ur that is as long as your name isn’t A-Rod.
7 | Syrah Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:12:23pm |
Early on, when he first started his blog, he was interesting.
Now, not so much.
8 | wrenchwench Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:12:41pm |
On the other hand, a looooong time ago, I found LGF because there was a link at the Daily Dish.
10 | vxbush Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:12:58pm |
I really don’t want to give Sullivan the traffic—anyone willing to post the offending text?
12 | ArmyWife Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:14:11pm |
Since people outside the normal “realm” are realizing Charles’ character judgment is pretty darn accurate, perhaps now is a good time to point out Pat Buchanan leaves a lot to be desired?
13 | morning star Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:15:57pm |
re: #10 vxbush
I really don’t want to give Sullivan the traffic—anyone willing to post the offending text?
“17 Feb 2009 04:45 pm
Fear And Anger
Those are the two programming staple from Fox News, so perhaps last night’s Hannity is not too surprising. It was a summary of alleged sleeper cells in the US, featuring “expert” Martin Mawyer.
Money quote:
Mawyer: They have weapons of mass destruction…
Hannity: What kind of weapons of mass destruction?
Mawyer: Well, in some cases I can’t uh, even tell you, Sean.
I bet he can’t. But when Little Green Footballs finds Mawyer less than credible, Fox has a problem.”
14 | DistantThunder Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:16:20pm |
I think he’s got a man-crush on you, Charles. He almost certianly has site envy.
15 | pious agnostic Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:16:25pm |
re: #8 wrenchwench
On the other hand, a looooong time ago, I found LGF because there was a link at the Daily Dish.
Me too. Remember back in the early days after 9/11? Sullivan used to be somebody I wanted to read.
16 | zombie Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:17:08pm |
Charles, is there a way to view a “normal” web page with a person’s user account on it, instead of one of those magico-unfolding Ajax/Flash whatever user windows?
There use to be a way, but I can’t figure it out any more.
17 | Steffan Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:18:04pm |
Hey, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
That Sullivan actually got something right — and that he’s taken a break from looking for Trig Palin’s nirth sertifikat, for once — is worth noting. You may never see such again.
Charles, if you wash it down in vinegar, it won’t stick.
18 | zombie Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:19:19pm |
re: #11 buzzsawmonkey
Moreover, Sullivan is most definitely a dandy Yankee doodle.
19 | Nevergiveup Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:19:48pm |
The United States will seek a more comprehensive, diplomatic approach to dealing with the war in Afghanistan, US President Barack Obama said on Tuesday, hours before signing off on an increase in US forces there
[Link: www.jpost.com…]
I wasn’t aware that the 17,000 American Troops tasked to Afghanistan were all diplomats? Does our CIC know what he is doing?
20 | JCM Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:19:57pm |
A left handed compliment is better than the back of the hand.
I think.
22 | Outrider Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:20:13pm |
re: #18 zombie
Moreover, Sullivan is most definitely a dandy Yankee doodle.
seems to at least be a dandy
24 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:20:16pm |
It’s funny, but when Sullivan finally peels himself away from his unending search to find Trig’s true mother, I might listen to what he has to say. As it is, I haven’t paid attention to Excitable Andy for years.
Still, I didn’t need him to tell me that Hannity has problems with some of his guests - like Martin Mawyer or regular guests like the anti-Semite Pat Buchanan.
25 | JCM Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:20:56pm |
re: #19 Nevergiveup
The United States will seek a more comprehensive, diplomatic approach to dealing with the war in Afghanistan, US President Barack Obama said on Tuesday, hours before signing off on an increase in US forces there
[Link: www.jpost.com…]
I wasn’t aware that the 17,000 American Troops tasked to Afghanistan were all diplomats? Does our CIC know what he is doing?
HRC will sit down and talk with the Taliban…..
That’s gonna’ go real far…….
26 | Charles Johnson Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:21:09pm |
re: #16 zombie
Charles, is there a way to view a “normal” web page with a person’s user account on it, instead of one of those magico-unfolding Ajax/Flash whatever user windows?
There use to be a way, but I can’t figure it out any more.
Sure, all you have to do is use Internet Explorer on Windows.
Oh, that’s not what you meant? Heh.
Yes, you can use a URL like this:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
Just replace ‘zombie’ with the username you want to look up. If it has spaces in it, replace them with ‘+’ symbols.
28 | SpaceJesus Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:22:01pm |
that little cartoon of his is annoying. I hate people who draw like that.
29 | Nevergiveup Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:22:02pm |
re: #25 JCM
HRC will sit down and talk with the Taliban…..
That’s gonna’ go real far…….
Apparently she is not allowed to touch Afghanistan and Pakistan? That has been dealt to Richard Holbrook?
30 | Elcid Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:22:10pm |
There’s nothing like a left-handed compliment from Andrew Sullivan to totally creep you out.
Uhhh, don’t think I’d want either hand, for some reason.
“not that there’s anything wrong with that”
31 | Neo Con since 9-11 Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:22:15pm |
re: #16 zombie
right click open in new tab on a pc
32 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:22:31pm |
re: #19 Nevergiveup
The United States will seek a more comprehensive, diplomatic approach to dealing with the war in Afghanistan, US President Barack Obama said on Tuesday, hours before signing off on an increase in US forces there
[Link: www.jpost.com…]
I wasn’t aware that the 17,000 American Troops tasked to Afghanistan were all diplomats? Does our CIC know what he is doing?
Diplomatic approach? Aggressive diplomacy with high explosives always does the trick.
33 | iLikeCandy Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:22:33pm |
With persistence and reason, this type of nonsense will get stomped out. With ratings spikes, it will spread like wildfire.
/so i’m sure we’ll be just fine
34 | Manster Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:23:49pm |
This topic that started yesterday is exactly why I don’t watch the tube to get my news. I go to sources I know I can trust. LGF is bookmark number one on my Mac bar menu.
35 | teleskiguy Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:23:58pm |
BATTLE OF THE BLOGS!
Hey, at least there’s a consensus about Martin Mawyer. What a goddamned full-blown whack-a-loon!
36 | zombie Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:24:57pm |
re: #26 Charles
Sure, all you have to do is use Internet Explorer on Windows.
Oh, that’s not what you meant? Heh.
Yes, you can use a URL like this:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
Just replace ‘zombie’ with the username you want to look up. If it has spaces in it, replace them with ‘+’ symbols.
OK. Thx. You’ve so streamlined the site the site there’s no way to navigate to a page like that any more. There used to be forgotten corners of LGF where it was possible to do so, but no more. Now, one must remember (or have bookmarked) the Terrible Secret.
37 | JCM Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:26:51pm |
re: #29 Nevergiveup
Apparently she is not allowed to touch Afghanistan and Pakistan? That has been dealt to Richard Holbrook?
F’n brilliant one of Rabbit Bait’s foreign policy advisors!
38 | Charles Johnson Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:27:19pm |
re: #36 zombie
OK. Thx. You’ve so streamlined the site the site there’s no way to navigate to a page like that any more. There used to be forgotten corners of LGF where it was possible to do so, but no more. Now, one must remember (or have bookmarked) the Terrible Secret.
Actually, the LinkViewer page still uses the old username method too, if you click a user’s icon from there.
41 | vxbush Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:28:37pm |
re: #13 morning star
“17 Feb 2009 04:45 pm
Fear And AngerThose are the two programming staple from Fox News, so perhaps last night’s Hannity is not too surprising. It was a summary of alleged sleeper cells in the US, featuring “expert” Martin Mawyer.
Money quote:
Mawyer: They have weapons of mass destruction…
Hannity: What kind of weapons of mass destruction?
Mawyer: Well, in some cases I can’t uh, even tell you, Sean.I bet he can’t. But when Little Green Footballs finds Mawyer less than credible, Fox has a problem.”
Gosh. I don’t suppose this would be a start of a new and wonderful relationship?
Nah. Probably not.
42 | Charles Johnson Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:28:37pm |
Good grief.
Now Bill O’Reilly is bashing Bristol Palin for daring to tell a little bit of truth about the ‘abstinence’ position of social cons.
Bristol is going to catch a LOT of shit because she expressed her honest feelings on that.
43 | HelloDare Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:29:40pm |
Hey, Sullivan. Those two dogs at your feet can’t stand you. And that woman in the background loosened a bolt on your chair. The back is about too come off and you’re gonna fall on the floor. Ha-ha.
44 | zombie Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:29:52pm |
Speaking of insanity:
Want to know why academia is irrelevant?
Because they purposely make themselves incomprehensible!
Imagine there is a convention in your town. Ask the conventioneers what the convention is about. In the Real World, you’ll get this kind of answer:
Boats
Computers
Guns
Games
etc.
But academic conferences? What are they about? Well, there’s one coming up in Berkeley later this week. Let’s ask the organizers to say, in as few words as possible, and as clearly as possible, what it’s about. And here’s their answer:
“Queer Bonds is a three-day symposium at the University of California, Berkeley, dedicated to exploring the intersections between sexuality and sociability. While its genealogies are multiple, the field of queer studies has been shaped by two powerful trajectories: on the one hand, an attempt to account for the creative forms of social and sexual bonding that have existed around, outside of, or in the interstices of “normal” sociality; on the other, an insistence on queerness as a force of subversion, refusal, and antipathy towards the social. How do conditions in our world today make it imperative that queer theory comprehend both the adhesive and corrosive dimensions of our queer bonds? The work we are canvassing asks in different ways how we can theorize sociability and relationality without either unilaterally embracing the positive existence of a queer social bond or insisting on its categorical refusal. Queer bonds must engage connections that span both moments of radical impersonality and of the all-too-personal. We invoke “bonds” in their multiple senses as deliberately redolent of the identity movements of the 1970s that provided much of the energy that served to define our field both academically and politically — alongside the denomination “queer” which suggests the enduring impact of the theories of subversion, resignification, and appropriation we associate with the art and theory of the 1980s and 1990s. We thus invite our speakers to pay heed to the rich traditions of queer culture, politics, and thought which have preceded our own, even as they reinvent them for the conditions of our world today.”
45 | acwgusa Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:30:15pm |
re: #19 Nevergiveup
The United States will seek a more comprehensive, diplomatic approach to dealing with the war in Afghanistan, US President Barack Obama said on Tuesday, hours before signing off on an increase in US forces there
[Link: www.jpost.com…]
I wasn’t aware that the 17,000 American Troops tasked to Afghanistan were all diplomats? Does our CIC know what he is doing?
Well, of course they’re diplomats. Diplomats with fragmentation grenades and automatic weapons. High speed leaded diplomacy.
46 | A Kiwi Infidel Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:30:22pm |
So, Mr Sullivan trolls LGF? Can we expect a troll hatchling sometime in the future?
48 | Nevergiveup Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:31:07pm |
49 | Syrah Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:31:08pm |
A full bottle of Gin,
My employees at the brink of rebellion over the lack of work (pay).
Seeing our company’s customer base getting creamed in a very ugly Dow.
Two Furlough days in a week including tomorrow.
Yep.
That bottle of Gin is in big trouble.
51 | Buster Bunny Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:31:30pm |
re: #42 Charles
Good grief.
Now Bill O’Reilly is bashing Bristol Palin for daring to tell a little bit of truth about the ‘abstinence’ position of social cons.
Bristol is going to catch a LOT of shit because she expressed her honest feelings on that.
The hammer is coming down hard on the Palins. They are seen as a genuine threat for the people who run the current MSM show. And they are trying to bring her down to their level.
Ugly .. aint it?
52 | albusteve Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:31:33pm |
re: #46 A Kiwi Infidel
So, Mr Sullivan trolls LGF? Can we expect a troll hatchling sometime in the future?
he’s here…they are all here, or their minions
54 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:32:01pm |
re: #44 zombie
Oh.. I see lots of SAT words. Well, they have to get their grant money somehow so being inscrutable and indecipherable allows them to baffle with BS as only they know how.
55 | Buster Bunny Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:32:35pm |
57 | HelloDare Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:32:49pm |
re: #44 zombie
Academia needs a fairness doctrine. That’s the ticket./
58 | albusteve Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:33:28pm |
re: #51 Buster Bunny
The hammer is coming down hard on the Palins. They are seen as a genuine threat for the people who run the current MSM show. And they are trying to bring her down to their level.
Ugly .. aint it?
she didnt have to do it and maybe should not have…but you know she may some moxie up her sleeve….O’Riley already exposed himself it sounds like
59 | Buster Bunny Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:33:40pm |
re: #46 A Kiwi Infidel
So, Mr Sullivan trolls LGF? Can we expect a troll hatchling sometime in the future?
Would that be YOUNG gamey troll buttock?
60 | zombie Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:33:56pm |
re: #38 Charles
Actually, the LinkViewer page still uses the old username method too, if you click a user’s icon from there.
Ah. Good. Some remnant of “LGF Classic” still floating around.
Sort of like the antiquarian DOS underlying Windows.
62 | A Kiwi Infidel Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:34:10pm |
re: #49 Syrah
A full bottle of Gin,
My employees at the brink of rebellion over the lack of work (pay).
Seeing our company’s customer base getting creamed in a very ugly Dow.
Two Furlough days in a week including tomorrow.
Yep.
That bottle of Gin is in big trouble.
Ya better put your hand out. You have employees, so does GM. In proportion, your needs are just as great as theirs.
63 | winston06 Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:34:49pm |
Andrew Sullivan is confused and a hate monger himself. Remember how he treated Prop 8 defenders in California?
64 | A Kiwi Infidel Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:34:50pm |
re: #52 albusteve
he’s here…they are all here, or their minions
Oh, no………(looks behind……..looks under desk………….looks under bridge)
65 | Nevergiveup Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:35:17pm |
Geronimo’s Great Grandson Asks Yale Secret Society to Return Ancestor’s Skull
The great grandson of Geronimo says he wants to know whether Skull and Bones secret society at Yale University has the remains of the famous Apache chief and shaman.
[Link: www.foxnews.com…]
The lawsuit also names President Obama, Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Army Secretary Pete Geren as defendants because they are responsible for maintaining Geronimo’s remains on a U.S. Army base in Oklahoma, the group said.
Welcome to the party Obama!
66 | vxbush Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:35:49pm |
re: #44 zombie
Speaking of insanity:
Want to know why academia is irrelevant?
Because they purposely make themselves incomprehensible!
Imagine there is a convention in your town. Ask the conventioneers what the convention is about. In the Real World, you’ll get this kind of answer:
Boats
Computers
Guns
Games
etc.But academic conferences? What are they about? Well, there’s one coming up in Berkeley later this week. Let’s ask the organizers to say, in as few words as possible, and as clearly as possible, what it’s about. And here’s their answer:
“Queer Bonds is a three-day symposium at the University of California, Berkeley, dedicated to exploring the intersections between sexuality and sociability. While its genealogies are multiple, the field of queer studies has been shaped by two powerful trajectories: on the one hand, an attempt to account for the creative forms of social and sexual bonding that have existed around, outside of, or in the interstices of “normal” sociality; on the other, an insistence on queerness as a force of subversion, refusal, and antipathy towards the social. How do conditions in our world today make it imperative that queer theory comprehend both the adhesive and corrosive dimensions of our queer bonds? The work we are canvassing asks in different ways how we can theorize sociability and relationality without either unilaterally embracing the positive existence of a queer social bond or insisting on its categorical refusal. Queer bonds must engage connections that span both moments of radical impersonality and of the all-too-personal. We invoke “bonds” in their multiple senses as deliberately redolent of the identity movements of the 1970s that provided much of the energy that served to define our field both academically and politically — alongside the denomination “queer” which suggests the enduring impact of the theories of subversion, resignification, and appropriation we associate with the art and theory of the 1980s and 1990s. We thus invite our speakers to pay heed to the rich traditions of queer culture, politics, and thought which have preceded our own, even as they reinvent them for the conditions of our world today.”
I have an acquaintance who has a Ph.D. in communications and speaks like this on a regular basis. I so want to take the red editing pen to her words as they come out of her mouth.
67 | zombie Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:36:00pm |
re: #53 ArmyWife
Huh. Is there a decoder ring available?
Yes. My decoder ring says, “I am getting a PhD in watching gay bondage porn. Toss in a few $3 words and a dash of Marxism, and I’m tenured for life!”
68 | Charles Johnson Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:36:14pm |
Now O’Reilly’s bashing the woman who had eight babies. Ranting about her, with psychologists who are totally violating their ethics by psycho-analyzing a woman they’ve never spoken to.
69 | Buster Bunny Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:36:24pm |
re: #60 zombie
I have trouble using the date system to look at old entries. Is it just me or is it a hard calendar to use? I keep on trying to put in dates and it erases my old entry, or changes it to a modern one.
70 | ArmyWife Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:36:29pm |
re: #64 A Kiwi Infidel
And this is why, friends and neighbors, I am always reminding you to make sure you have your pants on at all times while posting. ;)
72 | MJ Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:36:46pm |
re: #42 Charles
Good grief.
Now Bill O’Reilly is bashing Bristol Palin for daring to tell a little bit of truth about the ‘abstinence’ position of social cons.
Bristol is going to catch a LOT of shit because she expressed her honest feelings on that.
O’Reilly has zero credibility himself ( there’s that word again)
Bill O’Reilly, Producer Settle Harassment Suit
“…The deal likely involves payment of millions of dollars to Mackris, since the two sides were discussing an offer of well over $2 million when negotiations broke down, say sources close to O’Reilly. Both parties agreed to keep the details confidential, according to the statement….”
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com…]
73 | A Kiwi Infidel Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:37:29pm |
re: #70 ArmyWife
And this is why, friends and neighbors, I am always reminding you to make sure you have your pants on at all times while posting. ;)
Crikey!…………..
74 | albusteve Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:37:50pm |
75 | pimp_conservative Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:38:04pm |
Could we please stop talking about that hack Andrew Sullivan? Stop giving him any attention. He doesn’t deserve it. Let him find friends with the whackjobs on the Left who cheer American defeat.
76 | Buster Bunny Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:38:54pm |
re: #71 Charles
Things are changing fast at the moment. I’m quite sure I’ve never seen anything as scary as the lengths people went to in the last election to get their candidate into the oval office.
77 | UberInfidel67 Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:39:17pm |
re: #19 Nevergiveup Ha! I don’t see my brother being too “diplomatic” when he is deployed. lol
78 | albusteve Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:40:13pm |
re: #65 Nevergiveup
Geronimo’s Great Grandson Asks Yale Secret Society to Return Ancestor’s Skull
The great grandson of Geronimo says he wants to know whether Skull and Bones secret society at Yale University has the remains of the famous Apache chief and shaman.[Link: www.foxnews.com…]
The lawsuit also names President Obama, Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Army Secretary Pete Geren as defendants because they are responsible for maintaining Geronimo’s remains on a U.S. Army base in Oklahoma, the group said.
Welcome to the party Obama!
this bumms me out..I knew Geronimo was buried over there but I always thought is was a tasteless joke about his bones….this is really disgusting to me and not funny at all…read his heartbreaking story
79 | quickjustice Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:41:01pm |
re: #44 zombie
Of course it’s academic gibberish. It’s all about the money. Grants, etc.
80 | A Kiwi Infidel Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:41:04pm |
re: #78 albusteve
this bumms me out..I knew Geronimo was buried over there but I always thought is was a tasteless joke about his bones….this is really disgusting to me and not funny at all…read his heartbreaking story
Got a link?
81 | HelloDare Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:41:23pm |
re: #44 zombie
I looked at the program for the Queerbonds Symposium.
This is on the schedule for day two.
1:15 – 2:30
Tim Dean, SUNY Buffalo, English
“Towards a Theory of Consensual Rape”
Linda Williams, Respondent, UC Berkeley, Rhetoric/Film Studies
Moderator: Katie Horowitz, UC Berkeley, Rhetoric
83 | Kronocide Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:41:49pm |
All our backhanded compliments are belong to you Honco.
84 | zombie Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:42:11pm |
re: #42 Charles
Good grief.
Now Bill O’Reilly is bashing Bristol Palin for daring to tell a little bit of truth about the ‘abstinence’ position of social cons.
Bristol is going to catch a LOT of shit because she expressed her honest feelings on that.
I only glanced at the article, but Bristol seemed to take a reasoned position: Abstinence is admirable — but admittedly difficult to maintain, as she personally can attest.
A substantial portion of teenaged boys so desperately want to break their abstinence pledge — but no girl will consent to help them break it.
Dorkiness and acne are more powerful social forces than all the social conservatives in the world.
85 | A Kiwi Infidel Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:42:47pm |
86 | Pastorius Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:42:50pm |
49 Syrah,
I went through that last summer.
I finally just gave up.
I found I was not able to turn water into wine.
But, as you note, I could open a bottle of gin.
87 | lawhawk Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:43:15pm |
re: #71 Charles
Fox News has jumped the killer whale.
They’ve nuked the fridge and then some. But then again, they’ve still got a ways to go before entering MSNBC territory. It’s a race to the bottom, and we all lose.
88 | JammieWearingFool Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:43:38pm |
I once got a link from Sullivan. Seems to me his traffic numbers are inflated.
89 | albusteve Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:44:32pm |
re: #85 A Kiwi Infidel
to his “heartbreaking story”
it’s common knowledge…start with Wiki…it’s a dramatic tale of persecution and retribution…a classic clash of cultures
90 | ArmyWife Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:44:47pm |
re: #68 Charles
In the mix of all that, 8 little precious lives are here. I honestly think the woman’s elevator isn’t hitting all the floors, but that is separate and apart from the innocents in all of this.
92 | zombie Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:45:14pm |
re: #81 HelloDare
I looked at the program for the Queerbonds Symposium.
This is on the schedule for day two.
1:15 – 2:30
Tim Dean, SUNY Buffalo, English
“Towards a Theory of Consensual Rape”
Linda Williams, Respondent, UC Berkeley, Rhetoric/Film Studies
Moderator: Katie Horowitz, UC Berkeley, Rhetoric
Well, Duh. Everyone knows about Consensual Rape. You see, it’s an especially clever and beautiful kind of rape. You rape me, I rape you: it’s all a part of the cycle of life.
/
Meanwhile, the entirety of academia circles the drain in the toilet bowl….
94 | horse Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:45:51pm |
I still remember the first time I saw AS on TV. He was part of a panel on the Bill Maher show. There was some good conflict between the two of them and AS got the better of Maher.
Then at the end, as the credits rolled and the whole group came out on stage to talk in a group, Andrew started massaging is butt with both hands for an extended period of time while his back was to the camera. It was like watching someone masturbate their butt with their cloths on. We laughed at him for a long time after that display. Was it bad ‘roids? Did someone spank him the night before? Does Bill Maher’s studio chairs have bed bugs?
That creepy display, along with his odd tilt toward insanity shortly afterward made it difficult to ever take him seriously again.
95 | Steffan Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:46:19pm |
Zombie, what’s up with this?
Move over Lou Seal, there’s a new San Francisco mascot that will be appearing at parades, street fairs and other public events around the city over the coming year. It’s the six-foot-fall Healthy Penis.
Actually, there are three of them, and they’ll make their reappearance Friday at noon at the corner of Castro and Market. They were controversial when they debuted in 2002, but became popular and were spotted around the city until 2006 to encourage gay and bisexual men to get tested for syphilis. (They come with a fourth, much less attractive buddy, Phil the Syphilis Sore.)
I bet they’re a blast at kids’ parties.
There’s also this bit of party-pooping:
Like banishing beads and masks from Mardi Gras or removing the red carpet and gold statues from the Academy Awards, the banning of floats, beer and nudity at this year’s Bay to Breakers will take all the fun out of it, many longtime revelers say.
City leaders and sponsors of the 98th annual wacky footrace announced several major changes Wednesday that detractors say will turn the over-the-top, only-in-San Francisco party into a 12K footrace like any other race in any other city in the world.
Sounds like a fate worse than death, don’t it?
96 | A Kiwi Infidel Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:46:25pm |
re: #84 zombie
I only glanced at the article, but Bristol seemed to take a reasoned position: Abstinence is admirable — but admittedly difficult to maintain, as she personally can attest.
A substantial portion of teenaged boys so desperately want to break their abstinence pledge — but no girl will consent to help them break it.
Dorkiness and acne are more powerful social forces than all the social conservatives in the world.
I wish it was like that in NZ. My 16yr old son has taken a personal pledge of abstinence and he is constantly challenged BY THE GIRLS as to why he would want to not have sex. It is crying shame, these are pretty young girls with their whole futures ahead of them and our education system refuses to allow any teacher to teach that abstaining from sex is actually a valid option. I pray for my son and his need for strength.
97 | mirage Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:46:29pm |
re: #81 HelloDare
I looked at the program for the Queerbonds Symposium.
This is on the schedule for day two.
1:15 – 2:30
Tim Dean, SUNY Buffalo, English
“Towards a Theory of Consensual Rape”
Linda Williams, Respondent, UC Berkeley, Rhetoric/Film Studies
Moderator: Katie Horowitz, UC Berkeley, Rhetoric
Three little letters in response to that title: W… T… F…
99 | JCM Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:48:10pm |
re: #81 HelloDare
I looked at the program for the Queerbonds Symposium.
This is on the schedule for day two.
1:15 – 2:30
Tim Dean, SUNY Buffalo, English
“Towards a Theory of Consensual Rape”
Linda Williams, Respondent, UC Berkeley, Rhetoric/Film Studies
Moderator: Katie Horowitz, UC Berkeley, Rhetoric
Ahhh, discussing the Stimulus package.
/
100 | A Kiwi Infidel Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:48:15pm |
re: #92 zombie
You had me fooled for a minute, then I spotted “Queerbonds Symposium”
Ok, got it. (puke)
101 | LionofDixon Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:48:22pm |
Sullivan these days is about as relevant as the buggy whip. He once served a purpose, but now is simply a minor curiosity. Alas, using the word “whip” in a post about Andrew Sullivan gives me a slightly creepy feeling and I find myself instinctively reaching for the Lysol.
102 | Bobblehead Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:48:41pm |
re: #84 zombie
Dorkiness and acne are more powerful social forces than all the social conservatives in the world.
How right you are.
103 | Steffan Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:49:11pm |
re: #86 Pastorius
49 Syrah,
I went through that last summer.I finally just gave up.
I found I was not able to turn water into wine.
But, as you note, I could open a bottle of gin.
I found that I can turn beer into water. It just takes a day or so.
/
104 | Syrah Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:49:38pm |
re: #62 A Kiwi Infidel
Ya better put your hand out. You have employees, so does GM. In proportion, your needs are just as great as theirs.
The price would be too great. Better to join them in the soup-lines then to whore them out to a fascist takeover. If they choose to join the blue shirts of their own free will, so be it, but I won’t sell them into it.
106 | zombie Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:50:31pm |
re: #95 Steffan
Zombie, what’s up with this?
“Move over Lou Seal, there’s a new San Francisco mascot that will be appearing at parades, street fairs and other public events around the city over the coming year. It’s the six-foot-fall Healthy Penis.”
Healthy Penis is old news: I photographed him last year at the Up Your Alley Fair.
107 | ArmyWife Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:50:43pm |
re: #84 zombie
Agreed - BUT I completely disagree with the left’s response. Just because it’s difficult to abstain does not mean we throw any talk of waiting for marriage out the window and hand over “how to” manuals. Mistakes are made, they don’t need to be enabled.
108 | JCM Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:51:21pm |
re: #81 HelloDare
I looked at the program for the Queerbonds Symposium.
This is on the schedule for day two.
1:15 – 2:30
Tim Dean, SUNY Buffalo, English
“Towards a Theory of Consensual Rape”
Linda Williams, Respondent, UC Berkeley, Rhetoric/Film Studies
Moderator: Katie Horowitz, UC Berkeley, Rhetoric
Seriously do these “academics” own a dictionary?
109 | abolitionist Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:51:29pm |
re: #68 Charles
Now O’Reilly’s bashing the woman who had eight babies. Ranting about her, with psychologists who are totally violating their ethics by psycho-analyzing a woman they’ve never spoken to.
The psychoanalysis at distance is disturbing, but she had 6 already before the 8, and appears to be making a grand show of it. Her fertility doctor, too.
110 | JCM Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:51:54pm |
re: #106 zombie
Healthy Penis is old news: I photographed him last year at the Up Your Alley Fair.
What a dick!
*had to be said*
111 | Kronocide Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:52:18pm |
Is this the same people who think all sex is rape?
112 | albusteve Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:52:40pm |
113 | HelloDare Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:53:06pm |
Here is the bio on one of Queerbonds Symposium’s organizers.
Chris Atwood is a fourth-year Ph.D. student in the Italian Studies department. His research centers on the intersections of same-sex desire and the desire to narrate in 19th and 20th century Italian novels and, more specifically, on confessional narratives, the rhetoric of the secret, tales of metamorphosis and queer travel writing.
114 | UberInfidel67 Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:53:43pm |
re: #96 A Kiwi Infidel
It would be great if these girls learned that not all boys just want to sleep with them. Hopefully, your son is strong enough to resist going along with the crowd. Some of them actually do. Have faith. I hope these girls learn something about themselves too.
115 | FloridaAnole Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:54:12pm |
Didn’t see the program, but does having someone on a discussion/opinion show mean that Fox necessarily endorses that person as a reliable source? I mean, they seem to have quite a broad spectrum of guests on their various shows, and some of them are loons. I get the impression Fox books loons occasionally to add a bit of color to their programs.
116 | Kronocide Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:55:09pm |
re: #113 HelloDare
OMG, what a waste of $. But he’s got an education, yay!
117 | theheat Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:55:42pm |
I think in the realm of possibilities, anyone can find something in common with even their most despised enemy. At some point, whether it’s because you both like potato salad, or you agree on something much more volatile, there’s something you will agree on.
That doesn’t mean you have to like or support them, mostly because the other 99.999% of what they are is still diametrically opposed i.e they’re still intolerable creeps; sometimes even creeps beyond the pale.
Follow your gut. A.S. is creepy. That’s why the fact he may agree with you on this one issue creeps you out.
118 | Cato the Elder Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:56:05pm |
As a left-hander, I resemble that remark.
119 | Mirage Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:56:10pm |
re: #116 BigPapa
OMG, what a waste of $. But he’s got an
educationexpensive piece of paper, yay!
Fixed
120 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:56:34pm |
re: #44 zombie
Queer Bonds is a three-day symposium at the University of California, Berkeley
Is that Folsom Street Fair and Up Your Alley with Noam Chomsky?
121 | JCM Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:57:14pm |
re: #113 HelloDare
Here is the bio on one of Queerbonds Symposium’s organizers.
Chris Atwood is a fourth-year Ph.D. student in the Italian Studies department. His research centers on the intersections of same-sex desire and the desire to narrate in 19th and 20th century Italian novels and, more specifically, on confessional narratives, the rhetoric of the secret, tales of metamorphosis and queer travel writing.
Queer Travel Writing?
Travel and writing has a sexual preference? Damn, where is that box checked on you itinerary, I complete missed it.
122 | Kosh's Shadow Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:57:21pm |
123 | LionOfDixon Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:58:03pm |
I wonder if re: #120 Alouette
I wonder if their vision of a “stimulus package” is akin to the general public’s?
124 | UncleSam Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:58:09pm |
re: #44 zombie
The self-referential obscurantism and mindful overcomplication of the prose of academia drives me crazy.
125 | Sean Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:58:18pm |
Zombie,
Isn’t it ironic that what were once Firesign Theater and Monty Python skits are now academic conferences?
126 | Thor-Zone Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:58:19pm |
re: #42 Charles
Good grief.
Now Bill O’Reilly is bashing Bristol Palin for daring to tell a little bit of truth about the ‘abstinence’ position of social cons.
Bristol is going to catch a LOT of shit because she expressed her honest feelings on that.
I’m one of the growing numbers of Alaskans who think electing SP as Gov was a huge mistake. That being said Charles, I couldn’t agree more with your point about all the crap that is coming down on Bristol Palin. She talked about the facts as she knows them and she is being skewered for it.
Aren’t there more important things to talk about than a teen mother these days? How about a discussion on the end of the world as we know it…….
127 | Kronocide Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:58:27pm |
re: #119 Mirage
Oh, my bad. How about ‘Doctorate in Dogma’
128 | Charles Johnson Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:58:33pm |
re: #109 abolitionist
The psychoanalysis at distance is disturbing, but she had 6 already before the 8, and appears to be making a grand show of it. Her fertility doctor, too.
And none of us would know about it, or care, if the media hadn’t swooped in and battened on her like vampires to boost their advertising revenue.
129 | Cato the Elder Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:58:52pm |
re: #44 zombie
Speaking of insanity:
Want to know why academia is irrelevant?
Because they purposely make themselves incomprehensible!
Imagine there is a convention in your town. Ask the conventioneers what the convention is about. In the Real World, you’ll get this kind of answer:
Boats
Computers
Guns
Games
etc.But academic conferences? What are they about? Well, there’s one coming up in Berkeley later this week. Let’s ask the organizers to say, in as few words as possible, and as clearly as possible, what it’s about. And here’s their answer:
“Queer Bonds is a three-day symposium at the University of California, Berkeley, dedicated to exploring the intersections between sexuality and sociability. While its genealogies are multiple, the field of queer studies has been shaped by two powerful trajectories: on the one hand, an attempt to account for the creative forms of social and sexual bonding that have existed around, outside of, or in the interstices of “normal” sociality; on the other, an insistence on queerness as a force of subversion, refusal, and antipathy towards the social. How do conditions in our world today make it imperative that queer theory comprehend both the adhesive and corrosive dimensions of our queer bonds? The work we are canvassing asks in different ways how we can theorize sociability and relationality without either unilaterally embracing the positive existence of a queer social bond or insisting on its categorical refusal. Queer bonds must engage connections that span both moments of radical impersonality and of the all-too-personal. We invoke “bonds” in their multiple senses as deliberately redolent of the identity movements of the 1970s that provided much of the energy that served to define our field both academically and politically — alongside the denomination “queer” which suggests the enduring impact of the theories of subversion, resignification, and appropriation we associate with the art and theory of the 1980s and 1990s. We thus invite our speakers to pay heed to the rich traditions of queer culture, politics, and thought which have preceded our own, even as they reinvent them for the conditions of our world today.”
Holy Theory, Batperson!
130 | FloridaAnole Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:59:07pm |
re: #124 UncleSam
The self-referential obscurantism and mindful overcomplication of the prose of academia drives me crazy.
It’s called doubletalk, or jive b.s. in the vernacular.
131 | HelloDare Tue, Feb 17, 2009 5:59:37pm |
Can anybody translate this for me. It’s from the bio of a woman on the Queerbonds Symposium organizing committee.
Her interests include the craft of drag kinging and queening, performance ethnography, embodiment, transnational feminisms, straight shame, and all things queer queering all things.
132 | reine.de.tout Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:00:02pm |
re: #115 FloridaAnole
Didn’t see the program, but does having someone on a discussion/opinion show mean that Fox necessarily endorses that person as a reliable source? I mean, they seem to have quite a broad spectrum of guests on their various shows, and some of them are loons. I get the impression Fox books loons occasionally to add a bit of color to their programs.
I often think Fox just books whoever happens to be available.
133 | A Kiwi Infidel Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:00:18pm |
re: #113 HelloDare
Here is the bio on one of Queerbonds Symposium’s organizers.
Chris Atwood is a fourth-year Ph.D. student in the Italian Studies department. His research centers on the intersections of same-sex desire and the desire to narrate in 19th and 20th century Italian novels and, more specifically, on confessional narratives, the rhetoric of the secret, tales of metamorphosis and queer travel writing.
A travel log of queer travels?
It sounds like a “must buy”,………only to ensure I never go where they go, travelling, that is, before I get punned out
134 | zombie Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:00:44pm |
re: #107 ArmyWife
Agreed - BUT I completely disagree with the left’s response. Just because it’s difficult to abstain does not mean we throw any talk of waiting for marriage out the window and hand over “how to” manuals. Mistakes are made, they don’t need to be enabled.
This is one of those very difficult questions. My feelings:
The Left is very overtly and very aggressively encouraging teenagers to be promiscuous. That is absolutely true. And they have a total hammerlock on our educational system and are pushing it relentlessly.
The Right feels that kids “are getting the wrong message (which they certainly are), and counter with the proposal: Have no sex education at all if it allows for the possibility of discussing teen sexual activity.
The Left’s position is: Teens will have sex, will simply can’t stop them.
And while that is true to a certain extent, we adults can dampen or inflame teen sexual activity with how we treat it. I agree with the Right that we should tell kids that, for their own sakes, try to have some restraint. But I don’t agree that we should enforce ignorance.
In my fantasy scenario, sex education classes would say, essentially:
“You may have urges, but trust us, the more you resist them at this stage, the better you’ll be in the long run. Abstinence is admirable. HOWEVER, if you simply can’t control yourselves, FOR GOD’S SAKE USE A CONDOM!”
135 | LionOfDixon Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:00:53pm |
re: #128 Charles
Slow news cycle…must not have been too many missing white girls to lard up the programming schedule.
136 | carefulnow Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:01:05pm |
re: #129 Cato the Elder
Heh-heh. You said “powerful trajectories.”
/
137 | reine.de.tout Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:01:10pm |
re: #131 HelloDare
Can anybody translate this for me. It’s from the bio of a woman on the Queerbonds Symposium organizing committee.
translation: she’s strange.
138 | Sean Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:01:24pm |
re: #128 Charles
I hear the locust noises from “The Right Stuff” when thinking about the media.
139 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:01:25pm |
re: #111 BigPapa
Is this the same people who think all sex is rape?
No, just sex between a man and a woman.
140 | abolitionist Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:01:43pm |
re: #128 Charles
And none of us would know about it, or care, if the media hadn’t swooped in and battened on her like vampires to boost their advertising revenue.
Right.
141 | zombie Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:01:51pm |
re: #120 Alouette
Is that Folsom Street Fair and Up Your Alley with Noam Chomsky?
Excellent summation.
142 | FloridaAnole Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:02:15pm |
re: #131 HelloDare
Can anybody translate this for me. It’s from the bio of a woman on the Queerbonds Symposium organizing committee.
She’s Ru Paul?
143 | Bloodnok Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:02:20pm |
re: #131 HelloDare
Can anybody translate this for me. It’s from the bio of a woman on the Queerbonds Symposium organizing committee.
I have straight shame. It’s one of the reasons I can’t play poker anymore.
144 | Eric Cartman's Conscience Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:02:58pm |
“There’s nothing like a left-handed compliment from Andrew Sullivan to totally creep you out.”
…Get used to it.
145 | yesandno Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:03:14pm |
re: #123 LionOfDixon
I wonder if
I wonder if their vision of a “stimulus package” is akin to the general public’s?
Yup….in both instances, someone gets screwed.
146 | albusteve Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:03:17pm |
the FOX Freak Show rumbles on….a pig with lipstick
147 | Cato the Elder Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:03:35pm |
re: #42 Charles
Good grief.
Now Bill O’Reilly is bashing Bristol Palin for daring to tell a little bit of truth about the ‘abstinence’ position of social cons.
Bristol is going to catch a LOT of shit because she expressed her honest feelings on that.
Teaching “abstinence only” to little meat-packets of raging hormones as a solution to teen pregnancy is about as effective as making kids feel guilty about masturbation. What you get is a bunch of failed abstinents with babies and a bunch of guilty kids washing their sheets on the sly.
148 | LionOfDixon Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:03:50pm |
re: #144 Eric Cartman’s Conscience
Do two left-handed compliments add up to one reach-around? Now that’s creepy!
149 | Kronocide Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:03:53pm |
re: #134 zombie
“You may have urges, but trust us, the more you resist them at this stage, the better you’ll be in the long run. Abstinence is admirable. HOWEVER, if you simply can’t control yourselves, FOR GOD’S SAKE USE A CONDOM!”
How about, go rub one off in the bathroom? Jeez.
151 | carefulnow Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:04:41pm |
re: #128 Charles
I disagree. When a woman decides to have even one child deliberately without a father, we should all care. 14? Off the charts.
152 | Bloodnok Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:04:51pm |
153 | yesandno Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:05:42pm |
re: #134 zombie
This is one of those very difficult questions. My feelings:
The Left is very overtly and very aggressively encouraging teenagers to be promiscuous. That is absolutely true. And they have a total hammerlock on our educational system and are pushing it relentlessly.
The Right feels that kids “are getting the wrong message (which they certainly are), and counter with the proposal: Have no sex education at all if it allows for the possibility of discussing teen sexual activity.
The Left’s position is: Teens will have sex, will simply can’t stop them.
And while that is true to a certain extent, we adults can dampen or inflame teen sexual activity with how we treat it. I agree with the Right that we should tell kids that, for their own sakes, try to have some restraint. But I don’t agree that we should enforce ignorance.
In my fantasy scenario, sex education classes would say, essentially:
“You may have urges, but trust us, the more you resist them at this stage, the better you’ll be in the long run. Abstinence is admirable. HOWEVER, if you simply can’t control yourselves, FOR GOD’S SAKE USE A CONDOM!”
ding, ding, ding, ding……we have a winner!
154 | A Kiwi Infidel Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:05:51pm |
re: #149 BigPapa
How about, go rub one off in the bathroom? Jeez.
Agreed, “Get a grip of yourself”
Or, “you need to take yourself in hand, young man”
155 | JCM Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:06:16pm |
re: #134 zombie
I would like for us society wise to hold guys more responsible. Pretty much right now I guy can have his jollies walk away and leave all of us to support his offspring.
If really held guys responsible, then the guys might think twice about the position of their zipper if they know that a chunk of their paycheck for the next 18 years would be taken and used for the care of the child.
156 | alegrias Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:06:28pm |
re: #68 Charles
Now O’Reilly’s bashing the woman who had eight babies. Ranting about her, with psychologists who are totally violating their ethics by psycho-analyzing a woman they’ve never spoken to.
* * *
I understand O’Reilly’s rage about this crime against humanity.
Californians and liberals enabled a smart welfare abusing, taxpayer cheating low life to cheat the system into giving her extremely expensive high tech medical services that resulted in her creating a family of Frankenstein children, many with disabilities FROM the IVF treatment.
Nadya Suleman gamed the California system, totally cheats both taxpayers and her innocent, disabled children, whom she abuses while she whores around to continue getting the fame she desperately wants.
This is the work of soul-less liberals with no thought about the consequences of letting disturbed people have the power to create life, innocent lives, wantonly.
It’s the flip side of soul-less liberals encouraging children to have plenty of “free” sex, with no consideration of the very real consequences including psychological cost of terminating pregnancies.
157 | Kronocide Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:06:29pm |
re: #152 Bloodnok
I’m hoping to not grow up, and go straight to the ‘dirty ol man/crusty curmudgeon’ phase. Then I can teach a class on it and sell a book on late night TV.
158 | albusteve Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:06:47pm |
re: #151 carefulnow
I disagree. When a woman decides to have even one child deliberately without a father, we should all care. 14? Off the charts.
why?…it’s done…nosing in and caring after the fact is voyeurism
159 | LionOfDixon Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:06:54pm |
re: #154 A Kiwi Infidel
How about getting a handle on your stimulus package?
160 | Cato the Elder Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:07:04pm |
re: #44 zombie
Academia: Navel-gazers with mirrored navels.
161 | UncleSam Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:08:08pm |
re: #130 FloridaAnole
It’s called doubletalk, or jive b.s. in the vernacular.
The lefty academics know they’re full of crap, so they try to blind the public with a barrage of purposefully incomprehensible bullshit.
162 | carefulnow Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:08:22pm |
re: #158 albusteve
You don’t think that there, as a result of everyone’s outrage, will be reforms in the field? I hope so.
163 | Eric Cartman's Conscience Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:09:42pm |
“Obama eyes Boehner and struggles vigorously with his own package designed to stimulate.”
164 | GGMac Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:09:51pm |
re: #42 Charles
Good grief.
Now Bill O’Reilly is bashing Bristol Palin for daring to tell a little bit of truth about the ‘abstinence’ position of social cons.
Bristol is going to catch a LOT of shit because she expressed her honest feelings on that.
O’Reilly in many ways came out from under the same rotted log as Sullivan. He’s the lowest form of Entertainment Tonight-Real Wives of Orange County-Fattest Man Gets Married -bottom-feeding -slimey slug snake-oil peddler to ever refer to himself as a “journalist”. There’s no one I’ve ever seen on TV who more gleefully relishes demeaning people - and the more normal and undeserving his victim, the more reprehensible he becomes - as demonstrated by his vile ‘report’ tonight on Bristol Palin.
*spit*
165 | albusteve Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:11:29pm |
re: #162 carefulnow
You don’t think that there, as a result of everyone’s outrage, will be reforms in the field? I hope so.
public outrage is one thing…FOX is mining it for profit…beyond that I have no clue about potential reforms..doing the right thing is evolving out of our culture
166 | theheat Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:11:37pm |
re: #42 Charles
Icky, icky O’Reilly has no business even talking about sex, Mr. Desperately Pleading Over The Phone For Sex Guy. Geez, he makes me ill. That corpulent bastard makes my skin crawl every time I look at him.
I think what Bristol Palin said was one of the most honest, candid things anyone could say about the situation. For crying out loud, she’s living with it. She’s walked in those shoes.
I am not a fan, whatsoever, of her mother, and I know what an unpopular viewpoint that is, particularly here. However, this young girl has been in the trenches, and has a very relevant message. She’s spared everyone the idealistic bullshit, and is telling it like it is. I wish her and her baby the best of luck, and I really mean that.
Mr. I Wish I Could Get Laid and the rest of the socons can shove it up their sanctimonious, unrealistic, asses. Thumbs up, Bristol.
167 | Thor-Zone Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:11:43pm |
“
You may have urges, but trust us, the more you resist them at this stage, the better you’ll be in the long run. Abstinence is admirable. HOWEVER, if you simply can’t control yourselves, FOR GOD’S SAKE USE A CONDOM!”
As usual Zombie, you’ve hit the nail on the head.
169 | Achilles Tang Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:13:56pm |
re: #84 zombie
I only glanced at the article, but Bristol seemed to take a reasoned position: Abstinence is admirable — but admittedly difficult to maintain, as she personally can attest.
A substantial portion of teenaged boys so desperately want to break their abstinence pledge — but no girl will consent to help them break it.
Dorkiness and acne are more powerful social forces than all the social conservatives in the world.
I’m not sure what article you mean, but on this topic there is this survey.
Take heed Kiwi.
170 | alegrias Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:13:57pm |
re: #128 Charles
And none of us would know about it, or care, if the media hadn’t swooped in and battened on her like vampires to boost their advertising revenue.
* * * **
Charles, in other states people have to mortgage their homes to undergo these fertility treatments. As a Californian, you ought to care your state is “giving” these very expensive treatments away for “free”. It’s as bad as those FannieMae/Freddie Mac loans that were given to people who couldn’t afford their mortgages.
In this woman’s case, bad bureaucratic decisions resulted in disabled babies being born to homeless unemployed single woman with partner, nor means or mental stability to care for a gaggle of children.
The fact Ms. Suleman’s IVF babies are born with disabilities Californians will pay for, as a result of Dr. Kamrava’s gross negligence in propagating 4 & 6 & 8 babies at a time, should concern normal people.
O’Reilly is right to be upset with Californians, liberals, and this woman for propagating children she is abusing.
172 | Eric Cartman's Conscience Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:15:32pm |
So, we should all hate O’Reilly now? I’ve never cared for the guy, ever. He’s tedious and apparently not very well spoken as he highlights words at the end of his show that we’ve all heard like they’re some Shakespearian neologism. But I’ve never before seen such hostility towards him here before. So, we hate him now then?
173 | n in wi Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:16:08pm |
re: #152 Bloodnok
Jeez, where did you grow up?
//
My guess is in a bathroom for a large part of the time.
174 | kansas Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:18:02pm |
re: #172 Eric Cartman’s Conscience
So, we should all hate O’Reilly now? I’ve never cared for the guy, ever. He’s tedious and apparently not very well spoken as he highlights words at the end of his show that we’ve all heard like they’re some Shakespearian neologism. But I’ve never before seen such hostility towards him here before. So, we hate him now then?
I think the latest round of “Hey This Will Really Piss You Off” starring Bill O’Reilly, is getting old.
175 | Afrocity Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:18:15pm |
Hmmm, Actually I don’t see it as a compliment. You have to look at how he is measureing LGF. Is he saying to himself “LGF really supports some wackos and if they think this guy is crazy, then Fox really has a problem”?
176 | Achilles Tang Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:18:43pm |
re: #128 Charles
And none of us would know about it, or care, if the media hadn’t swooped in and battened on her like vampires to boost their advertising revenue.
I don’t mean to defend the rags on this, but when you say we wouldn’t care, I can’t agree.
There is something seriously wrong here. Certainly with the doctor and quite possibly with the woman to the extent that it will damage the children eventually.
177 | LionOfDixon Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:19:42pm |
re: #163 Eric Cartman’s Conscience
“Barney Frank Shmooze’s Weiner to get Crapo in his caucus.”
Allright….now I really need to disinfect!
178 | Achilles Tang Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:19:52pm |
re: #175 Afrocity
Hmmm, Actually I don’t see it as a compliment. You have to look at how he is measureing LGF. Is he saying to himself “LGF really supports some wackos and if they think this guy is crazy, then Fox really has a problem”?
Do you always think this deviously?
179 | ArmyWife Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:19:55pm |
re: #134 zombie
As the mother of one gorgeous 17 year old girl, I would never, ever advocate no sex ed is good sex ed! I think the sex ed should come from parents rather than schools, that is my fantasy. Because getting pregnant is always a possibility with sex no matter what birth control method chosen, I’ve always included the financial implications. If you can’t afford to have a baby, you can’t afford to have sex.
180 | Dirk Diggler Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:19:57pm |
alegrias,
I understand O’Reilly’s rage about this crime against humanity.
Californians and liberals enabled a smart welfare abusing, taxpayer cheating low life to cheat the system into giving her extremely expensive high tech medical services that resulted in her creating a family of Frankenstein children, many with disabilities FROM the IVF treatment.
Nadya Suleman gamed the California system, totally cheats both taxpayers and her innocent, disabled children, whom she abuses while she whores around to continue getting the fame she desperately wants.
Yup. The outrage is justified. Nadya Suleiman’s efforts to be perpetually pregnant are a serious burden for her family and the taxpayers of California.
181 | alegrias Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:20:27pm |
re: #151 carefulnow
I disagree. When a woman decides to have even one child deliberately without a father, we should all care. 14? Off the charts.
* * * *
Thank you. Not only that, but those IVF treatments require MANY medical staff tracking your daily hormone shots early in the AM, late in the PM, deep in the buttocks—which you cannot do yourself—and are VERY expensive. You need to have sonograms of your uterus done several days in row, and lots of assistance.
IVF is very labor intensive, very expensive, NOT something welfare queens taking your tax dollars to feed their 6 kids can EASILY afford, unless they’re ripping off another bunch of taxpayers.
182 | A Kiwi Infidel Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:20:30pm |
183 | brandon13 Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:20:48pm |
re: #175 Afrocity
Hmmm, Actually I don’t see it as a compliment. You have to look at how he is measureing LGF. Is he saying to himself “LGF really supports some wackos and if they think this guy is crazy, then Fox really has a problem”?
That’s why the term, “left-handed compliment” was used when describing it.
184 | Syrah Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:21:15pm |
re: #172 Eric Cartman’s Conscience
He has a knack for being offensively wrong. So much so that I find that I would rather that he were “Looking out” for someone else.
185 | Charles Johnson Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:22:00pm |
re: #170 alegrias
OK, so let’s persecute her, then. Send in the media hounds. She’s evil.
186 | SlartyBartfast Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:22:48pm |
re: #172 Eric Cartman’s Conscience
Personally, I think this country is being taken over (from the inside) by Socialists while we’re being stalked from the outside by Islamists. We’re in a serious fight-to-the-death for our freedoms.
With that said, I’m starting to lose patience with Conservative(?) talking heads who waste their time (like O’Reilly) on meaningless B.S.
(And, just because I’m paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not out to get me.)
187 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:24:00pm |
re: #172 Eric Cartman’s Conscience
So, we should all hate O’Reilly now? I’ve never cared for the guy, ever. He’s tedious and apparently not very well spoken as he highlights words at the end of his show that we’ve all heard like they’re some Shakespearian neologism. But I’ve never before seen such hostility towards him here before. So, we hate him now then?
Don’t be ridiculous, I’ve disliked O’rly for a long time now, long before I ever found LGF. And hate is too strong a word, that ignorant gas-bag doesn’t deserve that kind of emotional investment.
188 | Eric Cartman's Conscience Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:24:48pm |
#177 LOD
Impressive.
How about “Barney had his Frank in Freddie’s Fannie until the house went to shit.”
It’s a foreclosure joke, right?
189 | FrogMarch Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:24:49pm |
Yeah - the woman who gave birth to a litter is old news. That’s the problem with the nancy grace/bill o’reilly media -they grab on to these stories and they don’t let go.
Time to let it go.
In the mean time - Here’s some exciting news.
[Link: www.lookingattheleft.com…]
190 | carefulnow Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:26:28pm |
re: #185 Charles
Huh? That’s not what s/he’s saying at all.
191 | FrogMarch Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:26:48pm |
Welfare reform is now out the window. States will be encouraged to add to their welfare roles.
192 | Afrocity Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:27:02pm |
re: #84 zombie
I only glanced at the article, but Bristol seemed to take a reasoned position: Abstinence is admirable — but admittedly difficult to maintain, as she personally can attest.
A substantial portion of teenaged boys so desperately want to break their abstinence pledge — but no girl will consent to help them break it.
Dorkiness and acne are more powerful social forces than all the social conservatives in the world.
I was a virgin till I was 27. I practiced abstinence. I didn’t mean for it to go that long but once you have kept it till 21 or so, you begin to look for a spouse or someone “special” to lose it to. When I did have sex I used protection and so did the other virgins I knew. Why is the media so down on abstinence? They make it seem like people who practice abstinence are clueless about sex. The virgins I knew had a better grasp on sex ed than most of the “party girls” I knew— and they ended up pregnant.
Okay I did know one virgin that ended up pregnant at a TKE party. She was a baptist and really sweet and naive. Didn’t want to talk about sex because she thought it was “sinful”. Well she got pregnant. We were all shocked. The guy married her.
194 | albusteve Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:28:59pm |
re: #191 FrogMarch
Welfare reform is now out the window. States will be encouraged to add to their welfare roles.
and here I was doing a hell of a good job taking care of myself and getting a good education for my two kids….now they want more from me…fuck them…I won’t do it
196 | FrogMarch Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:30:59pm |
re: #194 albusteve
and here I was doing a hell of a good job taking care of myself and getting a good education for my two kids….now they want more from me…fuck them…I won’t do it
Why bother? We are all socialists now. According to Obama’s campaign arm - Newsweek magazine.
197 | Eric Cartman's Conscience Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:31:27pm |
#185 Charles,
No, she’s not evil. Rather she’s an irresponsible, selfish, and quite expensive douchebag looking for an Oprah Winfrey subsidized payday qua “John and Kate, Plus Eight.” She says so openly. O’Reilly is a true gasbag and whatever his daily indignation is, it’s almost always an embarrassment. But this Suleman chick is not the sort to stake one’s rationales.
198 | theheat Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:31:35pm |
re: #190 carefulnow
She hired her own PR peeps (who later quit). I don’t think staying under the radar was her goal. Then, of course, her web site asking for donations. That was no homemade page on myspace. From her end, this was a PR offensive.
I’m more concerned for the health of her umpteen babies, especially the ones with disabilities.
199 | FrogMarch Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:31:42pm |
re: #196 FrogMarch
Why bother? We are all socialists now. According to Obama’s campaign arm - Newsweek magazine.
why bother working. We can all go on welfare!
(to clarify)
200 | LionOfDixon Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:32:32pm |
re: #188 Eric Cartman’s Conscience
You are the master, Sir. My lame parry: “Frank feels out Boehner’s stimulus package and has face to face with majority whip.”
201 | GGMac Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:32:53pm |
re: #189 FrogMarch
Yeah - the woman who gave birth to a litter is old news. That’s the problem with the nancy grace/bill o’reilly media -they grab on to these stories and they don’t let go.
Time to let it go.In the mean time - Here’s some exciting news.
[Link: www.lookingattheleft.com…]
Thanks for that link. WOW! Did this guy study under Zombie?
202 | alegrias Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:32:55pm |
re: #185 Charles
OK, so let’s persecute her, then. Send in the media hounds. She’s evil.
* * * *
Dear Charles, I have not seen the tv coverage to which you refer. No, I’m not advocating persecuting this woman. I advocate saving her children who need help first, as she is apparently not able to care for them without total, massive taxpayer assistance.
Ms. Suleyman is smart, sick, and crafty enough to steal millions in tax dollars from Californians—for the children—while she prostitutes her sordid situation for the cameras, while who knows who is watching her 14 needy children.
204 | carefulnow Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:33:56pm |
re: #198 theheat
Looks like you misread my comment, which was directed at Charles’s comment. “S/he” referred to Alegria.
I agree with you, actually.
205 | Eric Cartman's Conscience Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:34:24pm |
#200 LOD
LOL!
I’m about to get banned after posting here for six years and you had to go and crack me up! :)
That is Gold.
206 | theheat Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:36:50pm |
re: #72 MJ
If I recall, the transcripts of O’Reilly basically begging for sex used to be available from the smokinggun web site.
Ubercreepy. Seriously.
207 | abolitionist Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:36:50pm |
re: #170 alegrias
Excellent points. Altho much of the media has been in vampire mode over Ms Suleiman, some of the reporting has been socially responsible. Yellow press I can ignore. Would someone ding down my #140, please.
208 | UberInfidel67 Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:42:29pm |
re: #192 Afrocity And I thought since I waited until 19 I was something special. Good on you. But….my bro just got remarried. He and his wife were trying for a baby. She conceived twice and lost the baby both time. They said she was too old. I don’t think she is old…she’s 42…but physically maybe she is. Then again, if no children is the way you want to go….good for you. If you decide to but do not have a partner…adopt. You seem more than stable, financially and mentally. Help a lost child.
209 | A Kiwi Infidel Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:47:39pm |
re: #169 Naso Tang
I’m not sure what article you mean, but on this topic there is this survey.
Take heed Kiwi.
Its a personal pledge, nothing being forced on him, here. I can imagine at some Christian youth gathering where there a “move” to get all the kids to make these pledges (not do so would incur the wrath of the crowd let alone “The Wrath of the Lord”) These are the ones whose hearts were never in it.
He has made a personal choice. I will not condemn him one way or the other. I am his father. If he makes a mistake I will support him because I love him. However, he is motivated due to:
- Unwanted pregnancy
-Condoms do not stop disease
-A girl/woman’s virginity should be her gift to her husband and he doesnt believe he should take that from her.
- continual sexual activity denigrates the act, over time, to a mere short term thrill that doesnt last and then there is a need to look for the next thrill. Sex, within mariage, would then become of little meaning.
210 | jorline Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:50:18pm |
Funny line on Hannity.
Hannity…what do you think about A-Rod and steroids?
Gilbert Godfrey…I stay away from steroids, I can’t afford for my penis to get any smaller. If it gets any smaller it will be a vagina.
211 | Syrah Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:52:35pm |
re: #192 Afrocity
The TKE (Teaks) had a reputation when I was in College (over 20 years ago). Been to a couple of their parties. Like Animal House with out the rolling credits at the end.
(Reagan was a TKE.)
212 | Capitalistincharge Tue, Feb 17, 2009 6:52:45pm |
OReilly probably is correct in doing a segment or two on the Dr. that did this and the system that allows this to happen. In order to do this you have to do the whole story including defining who the mother is and what she’s done etc. I agree with above poster that hopefully recognizing this will effect change in the system. However, they have gone pass responsible reporting and Bill seems to be on the verge of hounding a private citizen. He is causing alot of public problems for the family.
213 | Afrocity Tue, Feb 17, 2009 7:00:20pm |
re: #211 Syrah
The TKE (Teaks) had a reputation when I was in College (over 20 years ago). Been to a couple of their parties. Like Animal House with out the rolling credits at the end.
(Reagan was a TKE.)
TKEs were the worst frat on my campus and they were like Animal House. I think all TKEs are like that. and PIKES (PKE) too.
215 | Lynn B. Tue, Feb 17, 2009 7:04:04pm |
re: #8 wrenchwench
On the other hand, a looooong time ago, I found LGF because there was a link at the Daily Dish.
Yep. Sullivan was not always what he is.
217 | avanti Tue, Feb 17, 2009 7:05:44pm |
re: #47 ArmyWife
Where is Avanti?
I’m here,can I help you with something ? Just got back from a great Blackjack run at Caesar’s in AC.
218 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Tue, Feb 17, 2009 7:05:47pm |
re: #214 Afrocity
I’m 37, with a good sense of humor, and I clean up after myself. PICK ME! PICK ME!
;)
219 | Arby Dwiar Tue, Feb 17, 2009 7:07:24pm |
re: #9 thefallingman
I’ve always liked squirrels and their arrogant attitude, though…
220 | Throbert McGee Tue, Feb 17, 2009 7:13:32pm |
re: #18 zombie
Moreover, Sullivan is most definitely a dandy Yankee doodle.
♪♫
Dandy Andy crossed the sea
And turned into a Yankee;
Calls himself a “power bottom” —
Hence the right-side hanky!
Andy shot some steroids up;
Left his cock a noodle
If his hubby won’t go down,
Perhaps some other dude’ll!
♪♫
222 | MJ Tue, Feb 17, 2009 7:22:38pm |
re: #206 theheat
If I recall, the transcripts of O’Reilly basically begging for sex used to be available from the smokinggun web site.
Ubercreepy. Seriously.
Oh yeah, right. I remember reading them. Something about “loofahs”.
224 | Achilles Tang Tue, Feb 17, 2009 7:46:42pm |
re: #209 A Kiwi Infidel
I did not intend to be critical, nor to I pretend to share the same approach, but those are your and his choices. I simply meant to remind of the conflict between intentions and hormones in youth.
Been there, done that.
225 | Throbert McGee Tue, Feb 17, 2009 7:52:05pm |
re: #221 buzzsawmonkey
That’s just
evilfunny.
Thanks — although I took some artistic license because I don’t think he’s yet a “Yankee” in the technical legal sense. (Although I assume he intends to change that now that the long-outdated ban on HIV+ foreigners becoming naturalized U.S. citizens has been lifted.)
226 | Throbert McGee Tue, Feb 17, 2009 7:57:23pm |
re: #177 LionOfDixon
“Barney Frank Shmooze’s Weiner to get Crapo in his caucus.”
NTTAW… OWTFIAS? TSTTTWWT!
/terribly, terribly, terribly in need of brain-bleach
227 | Joel Tue, Feb 17, 2009 7:59:21pm |
re: #15 pious agnostic
Me too. Remember back in the early days after 9/11? Sullivan used to be somebody I wanted to read.
After 9/11 Sulllivan used to be one of the more courageous figures calling for a vigorous prosecution of a war on Islamofascists. I honestly think that dementia is setting in for Randy Andy.
228 | doppelganglander Tue, Feb 17, 2009 8:00:13pm |
re: #81 HelloDare
I looked at the program for the Queerbonds Symposium.
This is on the schedule for day two.
1:15 – 2:30
Tim Dean, SUNY Buffalo, English
“Towards a Theory of Consensual Rape”
Linda Williams, Respondent, UC Berkeley, Rhetoric/Film Studies
Moderator: Katie Horowitz, UC Berkeley, Rhetoric
1. If it’s rape, it’s not consensual. They have other words for that.
2. Any academic title that begins with “Towards” is a towering pile of bullshit.
3. My kid wants to study film, but it sure as hell won’t be at Berkeley.
229 | Capitalistincharge Tue, Feb 17, 2009 8:03:19pm |
Oregon is going to tax beer 1900%!?! Equating to $50 a barrel. Says it will use the revenue to treat Alcholism. Now let’s see….The responsible drinkers will pay for irresponsible drinkers. The Porkulus pkg…the responsible will pay for the irresponsible. I get it now! We are freaking doomed.
PS. I live in WI. What Oregon is proposing would be interpreted as the same as taxing G=d here.
230 | WF Bach Tue, Feb 17, 2009 8:10:01pm |
re: #175 Afrocity
Yeah, me too. More of an out-and-out insult than a left-handed compliment, really.
231 | Dancing along the light of day Tue, Feb 17, 2009 8:27:35pm |
re: #185 Charles
I do NOT agree that she is evil. I think that she is ill. And that her illness has been fed by the very people that should have been trying to help her.
More than a few fries short of a happy meal, has been MHO since the story broke.
232 | Throbert McGee Tue, Feb 17, 2009 9:05:57pm |
re: #228 doppelganglander
2. Any academic title that begins with “Towards” is a towering pile of bullshit.
Not only is it bullshit, but the construction “Towards a Theory” sounds oddly ESL-ish to me. Since the academics who come up with these titles are native English speakers, however, it must be that they are pompously copying a grammatical construction in some other language — maybe Latin or Greek?
233 | zombie Tue, Feb 17, 2009 10:18:38pm |
re: #220 Throbert McGee
♪♫
Dandy Andy crossed the sea
And turned into a Yankee;
Calls himself a “power bottom” —
Hence the right-side hanky!Andy shot some steroids up;
Left his cock a noodle
If his hubby won’t go down,
Perhaps some other dude’ll!
♪♫
That was actually quite brilliant!
234 | Salamantis Tue, Feb 17, 2009 10:35:29pm |
re: #179 ArmyWife
As the mother of one gorgeous 17 year old girl, I would never, ever advocate no sex ed is good sex ed! I think the sex ed should come from parents rather than schools, that is my fantasy. Because getting pregnant is always a possibility with sex no matter what birth control method chosen, I’ve always included the financial implications. If you can’t afford to have a baby, you can’t afford to have sex.
But the sad reality is that many parents would shirk such a responsibility, and in this case, ignorance is pregnancy, not bliss.