Ann Coulter is speaking at 12:30 Eastern…
[Video feed bumped up…]
UPDATE at 2/28/09 10:40:07 am:
Outside of a suggestion that Hillary Clinton wants to poison Bill, and a sideways monkey reference, I didn’t hear one of Coulter’s trademark offensive lines this time.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:23:31am |
Wow, lots of people watching the feed today.
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:27:03am |
Worried about what Ann will say? Next you'll be telling me some Jewish leaders are disappointed in Hilliary and Obama?
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SixDegrees Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:28:20am |
Why was she invited to speak in the first place? She's a massive embarrassment. Giving her a podium is like putting pennies on the rail - chances of causing a train wreck are huge.
Standing up and saying, "We won't tolerate bigoted hate speech like you've espoused in the past" would be good for the party.
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:30:14am |
re: #5 SixDegrees
Why was she invited to speak in the first place? She's a massive embarrassment. Giving her a podium is like putting pennies on the rail - chances of causing a train wreck are huge.
Standing up and saying, "We won't tolerate bigoted hate speech like you've espoused in the past" would be good for the party.
Hell we/the Republicans are so screwed up right now, no harm in stirring the pot so to speak
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:31:16am |
How the hell is Carolina getting hosed on the calls at home?
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:31:51am |
I don't see anything. Fuel gauge is at about half, not moving.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:32:59am |
I'm getting links to ads, but no video feed. Anyone, help?
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pingjockey Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:33:26am |
I'm a glutton for lunancy. Let's see what bombs Ann slings!
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:33:43am |
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wrenchwench Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:33:44am |
re: #5 SixDegrees
Giving her a podium is like putting pennies on the rail - chances of causing a train wreck are huge.
I dunno. I got a bunch of big, flat pennies, and never derailled a train.
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:35:17am |
re: #12 wrenchwench
I dunno. I got a bunch of big, flat pennies, and never derailled a train.
Ya gotta hold the penny on the rail with your hand to derail the train?
/
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:36:12am |
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Charles Johnson Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:36:23am |
Nope, they're keeping Ann Coulter off the feed.
Instead, it's the fanatic Tom DeLay.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:36:38am |
Starts right out with the religious stuff. It's not going to stop.
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jaunte Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:37:10am |
Tom Delay talking about 'hate speech.'
The concept is not Constitutional, Tom.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:37:26am |
Wanna bet, some things she says and no one wants to deal with it.
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wrenchwench Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:38:03am |
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:38:06am |
And I can bet the books are available out in the lobby.
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Mich-again Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:38:14am |
He sounds like he's getting ready to introduce Snakehips.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:38:32am |
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:38:33am |
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itellu3times Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:38:42am |
Another great little essay by wretchard over at Belmont:
...
At some level, the world isn’t simply betting on American stability in the sense of stasis. It is betting on its dynamic stability; in other words on the controlled instability of the US political and economic process; the unrest within civility, the unum in the pluribus, to find a non-destructive way through the thicket into the new world. What the Russians, the Chinese and the rest of the world are ultimately relying on isn’t Obama. It is American political and economic “Minutemen”, who of all the slender hopes in this forlorn world, still represent the best chance of figuring out how to square the circle. The Tea Parties, the culture wars, the debates — this is what the USA has that they don’t. Ultimately, much of the world knows how a big a hole we’re in, but lack the framework of freedom with which to explore solutions.It’s quite a vote of confidence. I wonder if this generation is up to it.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:38:56am |
Maybe he is going to introduce Coulter.
"The enemy is on the left."
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DistantThunder Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:39:10am |
Not loading for me after I clicked the arrow.. lots of traffic...?
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:39:41am |
Ever since Delay has started talking UNC is doing much better. Just saying.
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Randall Gross Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:39:45am |
"she doesn't criticize conservatives"... naw, she just helped McCain lose. She helped shoot down Rudy in the primaries.
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Hengineer Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:39:46am |
Katie Couric? She's a complete nonentity what does she have to do with this?
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Charles Johnson Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:40:02am |
It looks like we are about to be treated to some Coulter.
I wonder which minority she'll insult today?
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Hengineer Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:40:03am |
re: #37 Thanos
"she doesn't criticize conservatives"... naw, she just helped McCain lose. She helped shoot down Rudy in the primaries.
Neither of which are conservative enough.
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wrenchwench Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:40:23am |
re: #27 Walter L. Newton
And I can bet the books are available out in the lobby.
My screen says "Click here for a free Ann Coulter book from Townhall Magazine" at the top.
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Mich-again Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:40:30am |
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Hengineer Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:40:46am |
"We Will Rock You"
Surely there are better songs than songs by Queen
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Mich-again Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:40:58am |
re: #39 Charles
I wonder which minority she'll insult today?
I'm betting us. The rational Conservatives.
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Shug Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:42:19am |
they are trying to DeLay their return to the white house
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Taqyia2Me Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:42:24am |
Let's set up a fund to send her to a steak house, you CAN be too thin.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:42:46am |
Does anyone see anything slightly hypocritical about playing the music of an openly gay artist, to introduce a person who is a virulent gay-hater?
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Hengineer Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:43:08am |
re: #57 Charles
Does anyone see anything slightly hypocritical about playing the music of an openly gay artist, to introduce a person who is a virulent gay-hater?
Only slightly
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Hengineer Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:43:34am |
re: #57 Charles
Does anyone see anything slightly hypocritical about playing the music of an openly gay artist, to introduce a person who is a virulent gay-hater?
Not to mention their name was an obvious gay reference.
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itellu3times Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:43:37am |
re: #57 Charles
Does anyone see anything slightly hypocritical about playing the music of an openly gay artist, to introduce a person who is a virulent gay-hater?
Don't ask, don't tell.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:43:59am |
re: #57 Charles
Does anyone see anything slightly hypocritical about playing the music of an openly gay artist, to introduce a person who is a virulent gay-hater?
No. But that's because I don't even think of artist's sexual orientation when I hear a song.
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SixDegrees Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:44:21am |
re: #17 Charles
Nope, they're keeping Ann Coulter off the feed.
Instead, it's the fanatic Tom DeLay.
Great. Hardly an improvement. The nut who wants Congress to decide how long I spend on life support, instead of my wife and family. Intrusive, overbearing government at it's worst and most loathsome.
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Randall Gross Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:44:44am |
notice the weak laughter on the "democrats finally won an election"... They've won two, and they are steamrolling to three.
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:44:52am |
re: #63 Walter L. Newton
No. But that's because I don't even think of artist's sexual orientation when I hear a song.
I am always the last to know who is or is not gay, so it never occurs to me
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luigi Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:45:08am |
In case anyone cares, I'm writing this from cpac. I gave up a perfectly good seat in the ballroom Coulter was the next speaker in to go across to a national security presentation. When I tried to go back there was a line of conservative teeny boppers a mile long to get in. So I went out to McDonalds for lunch. Having a nice time. Wish you were here. I had a long chat with Joe the Plumber earlier. Very capable guy. Looks like a football player. I guess I'll go see what else is on now. Lots of high spirits here but the situation is so hopeless, I think, that it just feels good to be around people I agree with. I find myself completing the sentences of many people I talk with.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:45:25am |
re: #68 Nevergiveup
I am always the last to know who is or is not gay, so it never occurs to me
Your gay? (LOL)
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Hengineer Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:45:31am |
re: #69 luigi
In case anyone cares, I'm writing this from cpac. I gave up a perfectly good seat in the ballroom Coulter was the next speaker in to go across to a national security presentation. When I tried to go back there was a line of conservative teeny boppers a mile long to get in. So I went out to McDonalds for lunch. Having a nice time. Wish you were here. I had a long chat with Joe the Plumber earlier. Very capable guy. Looks like a football player. I guess I'll go see what else is on now. Lots of high spirits here but the situation is so hopeless, I think, that it just feels good to be around people I agree with. I find myself completing the sentences of many people I talk with.
You live blogging?
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Noam Sayin' Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:45:40am |
Nice rack for a thin gal.
That adam's apple disturbs me, though.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:45:44am |
Ann Coulter. Well, at least she isn't polarizing.
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:45:59am |
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sattv4u2 Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:46:09am |
re: #39 Charles
It looks like we are about to be treated to some Coulter.
I wonder which minority she'll insult today?
conservatives?
//
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:46:37am |
re: #70 Walter L. Newton
Walter! Been hoping to find you. Wanted to ask your thoughts on the death of the Rocky Mountain News.
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jaunte Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:46:54am |
She's not hitting a rhythm with the standup. She's a better performer with someone to interrrupt her.
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Hengineer Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:46:55am |
re: #39 Charles
It looks like we are about to be treated to some Coulter.
I wonder which minority she'll insult today?
So far just Jesus and Abe Lincoln.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:46:57am |
re: #76 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Walter! Been hoping to find you. Wanted to ask your thoughts on the death of the Rocky Mountain News.
When did that happen?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:47:40am |
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:47:54am |
I know Ann gets carried away and out of line sometimes, but hey I still thinks she is OK. And relatively easy on the eyes. I'm still male chauvinist pig after all
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Sleepyone Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:48:06am |
re: #78 jaunte
She's not hitting a rhythm with the standup. She's a better performer with someone to interrrupt her.
That's true. She's much better at being interviewed in my opinion.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:48:47am |
Ann's doing the Michelle shoulders thing. Showing off the guns.
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jaunte Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:48:55am |
re: #85 Nevergiveup
I know Ann gets carried away and out of line sometimes, but hey I still thinks she is OK. And relatively easy on the eyes. I'm still male chauvinist pig after all
She could challenge Michelle to a 'toned arms' competition.
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Hengineer Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:49:03am |
re: #89 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Ann's doing the Michelle shoulders thing. Showing off the guns.
And Adam's Apple.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:49:21am |
re: #87 itellu3times
Yeah, she's pushing it a little bit.
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Hengineer Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:49:33am |
ooooh "Wait till 2012", finally the future election comes out.
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:50:07am |
re: #90 jaunte
She could challenge Michelle to a 'toned arms' competition.
I don't think it is right to talk about women like that. Think she is wearing panties?
/
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Hengineer Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:50:29am |
re: #96 Nevergiveup
I don't think it is right to talk about women like that. Think she is wearing panties?
/
maybe boxers.
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Hengineer Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:50:43am |
re: #97 jaunte
Enough with the wisecracks. Where's the real meat?
You don't want me to answer that...
/s
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Killian Bundy Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:50:44am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:50:49am |
Wow...just saw the pic from the Friday Afternoon Hubble.
Just...Wow.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:50:57am |
re: #82 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oh.
I think it's good.
Why should any business be immune from the market if they can't deliver. Journalist have become opinionist, the papers have not address the new media, they have all isolated themselves.
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HelloDare Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:51:13am |
re: #96 Nevergiveup
I don't think it is right to talk about women like that. Think she is wearing panties?
/
She's wearing two panties. They're stuffed in her bra.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:51:51am |
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:52:20am |
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Jim in Virginia Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:52:23am |
Coulter is a hottie but she's a bombthrower. She isn't a serious thinker and she says things just to make people mad. Nothing but a better looking, conservative Al Franken.
I like Rush; his first goal is to entertain, not to educate or enlighten, though he sometimes does all three.
Conservatism needs a new Wiliam F Buckley, a new Reagan, and a new Thatcher.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:52:25am |
Hotel lobby...can't have my sound on. Poop.
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HelloDare Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:52:38am |
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sattv4u2 Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:52:46am |
re: #97 jaunte
Enough with the wisecracks. Where's the real meat?
We (conservatives) tried the 'real meat' against Obama this last election. Fat lotta good that did us while he was dazzling the masses with HOPEYCHANGEO
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:53:32am |
She's very animated Wonder whut she's sayin...
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Hengineer Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:53:42am |
re: #116 sattv4u2
We (conservatives) tried the 'real meat' against Obama this last election. Fat lotta good that did us while he was dazzling the masses with HOPEYCHANGEO
McCain wasn't the real meat, he wasn't a true conservative.
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jaunte Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:53:45am |
re: #116 sattv4u2
If CPAC is any indication, the talent to outdo the Dems is only 13 this year.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:53:50am |
I'll bet she's got a really nasty comment waiting to be unleashed.
She has a reputation to uphold.
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Randall Gross Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:53:57am |
Living in the past, no eyes for the future.
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HelloDare Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:54:02am |
I hear she's appearing at Shecky's Laugh Shack next weekend.
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Hengineer Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:54:09am |
finally a good joke:
"Can't come up with a Democratic president worthy of being compared to"
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:54:18am |
re: #120 Charles
I'll bet she's got a really nasty comment waiting to be unleashed.
She has a reputation to uphold.
You laying odds?
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snowcrash Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:54:25am |
Lincoln/ Reagan comparison comment very funny!
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wrenchwench Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:54:31am |
re: #120 Charles
I'll bet she's got a really nasty comment waiting to be unleashed.
She has a reputation to uphold.
She did just make a crack about "Johnsonesque."
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Killgore Trout Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:54:31am |
re: #120 Charles
It's the only reason I'm watching.
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itellu3times Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:54:36am |
This is pretty good stuff overall.
Maybe we're a little wimpy, finding it edgy.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:54:40am |
re: #118 Hengineer
McCain wasn't the real meat, he wasn't a true conservative.
I didn;t say McCain. I was talking about CONSERVATIVES criticisms about all things Obama
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nyc redneck Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:54:42am |
re: #83 newsjunkie_ky
I like Ann Coulter.
i like her too.
she really exposes the hypocrisy and stupidity of the left.
in such a biting way.
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HelloDare Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:55:12am |
She should not be speaking here. The upside is practically nothing. The potential downside huge.
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:55:43am |
re: #133 HelloDare
She should not be speaking here. The upside is practically nothing. The potential downside huge.
Why-to be honest nobody but nerds like us are listening
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Hengineer Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:55:46am |
re: #133 HelloDare
She should not be speaking here. The upside is practically nothing. The potential downside huge.
She should be there to sign books and have a book booth, not to speak.
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Jim in Virginia Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:55:51am |
re: #117 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
She's very animated Wonder whut she's sayin...
She wants to see you pole dance.
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newsjunkie_ky Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:56:03am |
Read her books, she is deadon with her research.
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pingjockey Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:56:06am |
re: #116 sattv4u2
Respectfully disagree. I voted for John. But he isn't a fiscal, small gov't conservative. He did not get a conservative message out, or not well anyway. IMO.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:56:17am |
re: #133 HelloDare
She should not be speaking here. The upside is practically nothing. The potential downside huge.
She wasn't invited last year.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:56:23am |
re: #133 HelloDare
She should not be speaking here. The upside is practically nothing. The potential downside huge.
How so? Those that like and agree with her still will ,, those that don't still won't. It's a zero sum game
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:56:27am |
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:56:31am |
Focus, focus, you're all over the place.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:57:08am |
Yeah, cut out. It usually comes back in a few seconds.
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Killian Bundy Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:57:22am |
re: #133 HelloDare
She should not be speaking here. The upside is practically nothing. The potential downside huge.
As opposed to Ron Paul?
/you seem to be thinking this should be some type of middle of the road event
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:57:34am |
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Charles Johnson Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:57:39am |
It came back when I hit the video player's little reload button.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:57:42am |
Rush is speaking today? What time?
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Killgore Trout Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:57:42am |
re: #131 Charles
She already made 1 assassination joke and a monkey reference.
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itellu3times Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:58:03am |
I hit "previous slide" and the feed came back.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:58:21am |
re: #138 pingjockey
Respectfully disagree. I voted for John. But he isn't a fiscal, small gov't conservative. He did not get a conservative message out, or not well anyway. IMO.
And again, I didn;t say McCain for that very reason! I too voted for him, but my comment was (and still is)
We (conservatives) tried the 'real meat' against Obama this last election. Fat lotta good that did us while he was dazzling the masses with HOPEYCHANGEO
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Killgore Trout Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:58:33am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:58:39am |
re: #156 Killgore Trout
She already made 1 assassination joke and a monkey reference.
Uh Oh! She gonna get deleted and her account blocked.
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sattv4u2 Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:59:00am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:59:23am |
re: #160 Killgore Trout
And they call us nerds....
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newsjunkie_ky Sat, Feb 28, 2009 9:59:38am |
re: #139 Charles
She wasn't invited last year.
So it was two years ago she made the comment about silky?
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Charles Johnson Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:00:41am |
Think anyone will ask her about the Council of Conservative Citizens?
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Randall Gross Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:00:50am |
Wonder if someone will ask her about CoCC?
/not very likely...
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newsjunkie_ky Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:00:57am |
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Fat Jolly Penguin Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:01:09am |
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Randall Gross Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:01:22am |
Ok, you guys figured it out, I'm really Charles' astral twin....
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:01:57am |
re: #170 Charles
Think anyone will ask her about the Council of Conservative Citizens?
"Do you believe in magic?"
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jaunte Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:01:59am |
People playing victims: remember Tom Delay's introductory remarks about 'hate speech.'
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claire Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:03:13am |
All her speeches are political stand-up. Just a string of superficial one-liners. She's entertaining, but not profound. A female Mark Twain, she is not.
Her books are the same way- disjointed, slapped together, meandering, unreadable. (The one I attempted, anyway....)
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HelloDare Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:04:08am |
What a stupid question. Sound like a liberal talking. Let's have babies vote on pablum.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:05:20am |
Drudge Headline, flashing red light...
A raging Barbara Walters stopped at CPAC doors. Developing...
/
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:05:35am |
Ann grates on my nerves.
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newsjunkie_ky Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:05:36am |
Good dig on silky chasing the ambulances that the 0 would send.
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:06:02am |
You all have to remember these people at these conferences are there all day and need some red meat to stay awake
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snowcrash Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:06:25am |
She is funny in a "celebrity roast" kind of way.
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jaunte Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:07:23am |
re: #190 Nevergiveup
I think the mistake they make is treating her as a serious commentator. they should bring her in for a few minutes of liveliness in between the other speakers.
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notutopia Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:07:24am |
Amen. Thank you Bush for keeping us safe!
Obama is shatting himself, hoping he can.
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Randall Gross Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:08:02am |
arrrgghgghg
Thanks for the support for our troops in Afghanistan. You've now joined Teddy Kennedy in the quagmire corral.
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:08:16am |
re: #192 jaunte
I think the mistake they make is treating her as a serious commentator. they should bring her in for a few minutes of liveliness in between the other speakers.
Some of the "serious" speakers aren't all that serious either
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pingjockey Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:08:27am |
Later folks. The 9 year old has birthday money burning a hole in his pocket!
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HelloDare Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:08:46am |
re: #192 jaunte
I think the mistake they make is treating her as a serious commentator. they should bring her in for a few minutes of liveliness in between the other speakers.
Just give her a clown nose.
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Randall Gross Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:08:54am |
This is the new paleo line - the war is bad because Obama's running it.
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nyc redneck Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:09:35am |
for politically correct reasons they are moving the focus of the war.
this ia the same reason O was against the surge.
it's abt. how it all reflects on him.
not what is good for our country.
how can the troops trust O at all.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:10:38am |
re: #199 nyc redneck
They'll walk into the same danger for him as they would for Bush. It is what American Soldiers do.
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outsidephilly Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:11:06am |
re: #199 nyc redneck
for politically correct reasons they are moving the focus of the war.
this ia the same reason O was against the surge.
it's abt. how it all reflects on him.
not what is good for our country.
how can the troops trust O at all.
a gazillion updings!
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notutopia Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:12:10am |
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ConservatismNow! Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:12:19am |
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DistantThunder Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:12:19am |
I think the point about the war is that it worked to our advantage to open up a second front with AlQueda, where we could fight them in a place less disadvantageous to us than Afghanistan.
Now that we are only going to be fighting them in afghanistan. It's like fighting cancer in the lymph nodes - spread out and evasive.
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Randall Gross Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:13:03am |
No, Sweetness and Light the blog just got awarded "best conservative blogger" for exposing Reverend Wright...
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notutopia Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:13:41am |
re: #208 Thanos
No, Sweetness and Light the blog just got awarded "best conservative blogger" for exposing Reverend Wright...
Oh!
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Killgore Trout Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:14:32am |
Well, at least Coulter made it through without a racial/ethnic/homophobic slur.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:14:39am |
re: #186 Walter L. Newton
Drudge Headline, flashing red light...
A raging Barbara Walters stopped at CPAC doors. Developing...
/
Dammit Walter! I went looking.
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:14:44am |
re: #112 Jim in Virginia
Coulter is a hottie but she's a bombthrower. She isn't a serious thinker and she says things just to make people mad. Nothing but a better looking, conservative Al Franken.
I like Rush; his first goal is to entertain, not to educate or enlighten, though he sometimes does all three.
Conservatism needs a new Wiliam F Buckley, a new Reagan, and a new Thatcher.
Jim -
Would RUSH, Rep. COHEN and Gov. PALIN work for you?
-S-
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HelloDare Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:14:59am |
5:00
Rush Limbaugh
Regency Ballroom
They must be streaming that.
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Killian Bundy Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:15:33am |
re: #214 HelloDare
5:00
Rush Limbaugh
Regency BallroomThey must be streaming that.
/FNC is carrying it live
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DistantThunder Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:15:57am |
Rev. Wright's Black Liberation theology is a cancer of hatred, and promotes race warfare. I had to sit through a black studies class, where my marxist black teacher lectured us on Jesus being black, and the Egyptians being black. I didn't think to raise my hand and point out that Egyptians were slave holders.
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HelloDare Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:16:26am |
re: #215 Killian Bundy
Thanks. Don't have cable. I'll catch a stream. Should be interesting.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:16:56am |
re: #211 Killgore Trout
Hear about the California Mayor losing his job for sending out a racial email joke? He's stepping down.
Couldn't believe it.
| 220 |
Charles Johnson Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:17:05am |
re: #208 Thanos
I'm pretty sure there are bloggers who covered that story earlier than Gilbert.
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Killian Bundy Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:17:48am |
re: #211 Killgore Trout
Well, at least Coulter made it through without a racial/ethnic/homophobic slur.
/it's a real good thing Anthony
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:18:51am |
re: #216 DistantThunder
Rev. Wright's Black Liberation theology is a cancer of hatred, and promotes race warfare. I had to sit through a black studies class, where my marxist black teacher lectured us on Jesus being black, and the Egyptians being black. I didn't think to raise my hand and point out that Egyptians were slave holders.
And they enslaved what group?
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Killian Bundy Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:18:54am |
re: #220 Charles
I'm pretty sure there are bloggers who covered that story earlier than Gilbert.
/Hannity claims he broke it
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:19:51am |
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Randall Gross Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:20:25am |
re: #220 Charles
I'm pretty sure there are bloggers who covered that story earlier than Gilbert.
I know there are.
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DistantThunder Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:21:10am |
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gman Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:21:33am |
re: #181 claire
All her speeches are political stand-up. Just a string of superficial one-liners. She's entertaining, but not profound. A female Mark Twain, she is not.
Her books are the same way- disjointed, slapped together, meandering, unreadable. (The one I attempted, anyway....)
That's my take on her as well. A few funny one- liners, but then a stupid remark about Afghanistan being the next Vietnam.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:24:05am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:24:23am |
Funny... Says here's Ann Coulter. That is certainly not Ann Coulter.
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nyc redneck Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:24:55am |
re: #200 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
They'll walk into the same danger for him as they would for Bush. It is what American Soldiers do.
of course, but i shudder to think that a derelict like O is their c.i.c.
(he doesn't even know how to salute. he inspires no confidence)
| 238 |
realwest Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:24:57am |
re: #230 monkeytime
What? What shout out (some of us can't hear the damn thing!)!?
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:25:22am |
re: #238 realwest
He
y RW! How you doin' this afternoon?
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KenJen Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:25:34am |
Is Ann gone? Couldn't bring myself to watch her. The hair tossing thing gets on my nerves.
| 241 |
Charles Johnson Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:25:46am |
Roger mentioned me as a founder of PJ Media. Very nice.
No boos at my name! That's a plus.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:25:52am |
re: #240 KenJen
Is Ann gone? Couldn't bring myself to watch her. The hair tossing thing gets on my nerves.
for me it's the voice.
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realwest Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:25:56am |
re: #239 ggt
I'm trying to find out who gave Charles and LGF a Shout out!
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Bobblehead Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:26:10am |
re: #238 realwest
What? What shout out (some of us can't hear the damn thing!)!?
And a mention that the blogs brought down Rather.
| 245 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:26:15am |
re: #237 nyc redneck
I'm with ya. But, IIRC, the President gets to salute however he wants.
Am I wrong?
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Bobblehead Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:26:34am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:26:40am |
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:26:41am |
re: #243 realwest
I'm trying to find out who gave Charles and LGF a Shout out!
no clue, I'm not watching either.
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realwest Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:27:12am |
re: #241 Charles
Roger Simon? Did he mention you and LGF (and still no boo's)?! Sorry boss, but I can't hear the bloody thing!
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:27:25am |
re: #245 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I'm with ya. But, IIRC, the President gets to salute however he wants.
Am I wrong?
Well the junior is suppose to salute the senior. But the big honcho can pretty much do as he wishes
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DistantThunder Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:27:33am |
re: #232 Iron Fist
Probably for the best. All of that shit is reletively new. I didn't face it either at FSU or UT. Of course, for my foreign studies credits I focused on the Far East, particularly China and Japan, rather than Africa or, for that matter, Europe.
I did have one instructor that was a dedicated Marxist (he thought Stalin was the greatest leader in the 20th Century), but even there it wasn't the hard-core indoctrination that so many Universities are doing now.
If anything, I'd say that my time in College was less dogmatic or indoctrinating than Middle or High School. Which is as it should be, except 7th Grade Leftist teachers shouldn't be trying to make sure that their class turns out to be good little Leftists.
This was San Jose State in California. The woman's studies teacher was also a marxist, Sontag wanna-be, old, negative, hostile to men, considered childbearing and rearing to be a form of slavery...etc. My classmates soaked it up. I was the disloyal opposition.
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Killian Bundy Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:28:22am |
re: #228 gman
Afghanistan being the next Vietnam.
They're getting 17K troops instead of the 30K requested, NATO won't send any, and the logistic routes are being cut and squeezed. Not good and Pakistan is the real problem.
/I'm not saying we should run away but no one's ever "won" in Afghanistan
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Killgore Trout Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:28:58am |
The best speech at CPAC?
Video: 13-year-old defines conservatism at CPAC, gets standing ovation
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nyc redneck Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:29:17am |
re: #245 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I'm with ya. But, IIRC, the President gets to salute however he wants.
Am I wrong?
and he gets to wear a flag lapel pin when ever he wants.
his failure to do these things is very disrespectful.
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:29:21am |
re: #253 Killian Bundy
They're getting 17K troops instead of the 30K requested, NATO won't send any, and the logistic routes are being cut and squeezed. Not good and Pakistan is the real problem.
/I'm not saying we should run away but no one's ever "won" in Afghanistan
What bothers me is ==what is "winning" in Afghanistan
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KenJen Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:30:07am |
re: #242 ggt
for me it's the voice.
Yeah. That also. A bit manish. What kinda accent is that anyway?
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DistantThunder Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:30:15am |
re: #255 Killgore Trout
The best speech at CPAC?
Video: 13-year-old defines conservatism at CPAC, gets standing ovation
This was inspiring. Simple. Elegant. Exact.
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realwest Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:30:15am |
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jaunte Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:30:23am |
re: #257 Nevergiveup
Has anyone articulated our strategic goal?
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:30:59am |
It's nice to hear there are some normal people in Hollywood
| 264 |
Charles Johnson Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:31:23am |
Are the lefty blogs pissed off about something Coulter said yet? Anyone check firedoglake?
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:31:41am |
re: #262 jaunte
Has anyone articulated our strategic goal?
Not that I am aware of--oh except this is the good war?
| 267 |
jcm Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:31:44am |
Report from the Seattle Tea Party!
(I had to work damn it, not gonna' take time off same week they layoff 10%).
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DistantThunder Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:31:55am |
re: #257 Nevergiveup
What bothers me is ==what is "winning" in Afghanistan
THAT's why it could become another Vietnam. Too Little, too late, under committed, fearful execution, .....and a huge psychological advantage to our enemies that the press can now undermine our morale with pictures of coffins.
Advantage Alqueda + Taliban.
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DistantThunder Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:32:28am |
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:32:49am |
re: #268 DistantThunder
THAT's why it could become another Vietnam. Too Little, too late, under committed, fearful execution, .....and a huge psychological advantage to our enemies that the press can now undermine our morale with pictures of coffins.
Advantage Alqueda + Taliban.
I am also worried this "war" is going to be run from the White House ala LBJ
| 276 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:35:38am |
Coulter has been engaged several times, but never married.[11] She has dated Spin founder and publisher Bob Guccione, Jr.,[12] and conservative writer Dinesh D'Souza.[13] In October 2007, she began dating Andrew Stein, the former president of the New York City Council, a liberal Democrat. When asked about the relationship, Stein told the paper, "She's attacked a lot of my friends, but what can I say, opposites attract!"[14] On January 7, 2008, however, Stein told the New York Post that the relationship was over, citing irreconcilable differences.[15]
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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Killian Bundy Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:36:24am |
re: #262 jaunte
Has anyone articulated our strategic goal?
I would guess it goes something like keep the Taliban from overrunning Kabul and Kandahar and keeping the al Qaeda base at heel back in Pakistan.
/the poppy fields damn it, are you serious?
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monkeytime Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:36:51am |
Droppin names on Hollywood Blacklisters...
Bruce Paltrow...spit.
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realwest Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:37:20am |
re: #269 ploome hineni
We stopped being prepared to do what has to be done when we invaded and then occupied Iraq. Troops and supplies can only be stretched so far; that's why Bush wanted NATO to take over.
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debutaunt Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:38:10am |
re: #268 DistantThunder
THAT's why it could become another Vietnam. Too Little, too late, under committed, fearful execution, .....and a huge psychological advantage to our enemies that the press can now undermine our morale with pictures of coffins.
Advantage Alqueda + Taliban.
Perhaps 0 wants to prove how our military is really too small and wants to recreate the Vietnam draft era.
| 282 |
Killian Bundy Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:38:27am |
re: #269 ploome hineni
and surround Afganistan
/right now, we're having trouble getting our supplies into theater
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Dr. Shalit Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:38:44am |
re: #224 Killian Bundy
/Hannity claims he broke it
Killian Bundy -
Hannity like RUSH uses blogs for materials. RUSH tends to give the h/t to the blog far more often than Hannity. Let's just say Hannity WAS the first to break the story in "Major Media."
-S-
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gman Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:38:56am |
re: #253 Killian Bundy
They're getting 17K troops instead of the 30K requested, NATO won't send any, and the logistic routes are being cut and squeezed. Not good and Pakistan is the real problem.
/I'm not saying we should run away but no one's ever "won" in Afghanistan
Ann didn't mention any of the details you did. She said that since the Soviet Union couldn't win in Afghanistan, we shouldn't expect too either. She obviously doesn't understand the quality of our troops, has already forgotten how our Special Ops, by themselves, were able to send the Taliban running out of the country in 2001, and doesn't understand that words of support for our troops are important no matter what president we may have.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:39:35am |
re: #259 KenJen
No clue, sounds fake --like the blonde hair. Skanky is my word for her.
Sorry to those Ann fans.
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avanti Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:39:43am |
re: #266 Nevergiveup
Not that I am aware of--oh except this is the good war?
Anne thinks anyone but McCain could have beat Obama, so just pick Jindal/Palin and it'll be a cakewalk./s
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alegrias Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:39:45am |
Anyone know why liberals are NOT clamoring for US troops to get out of Korea, Europe or Bosnia?
And why is the fucking WashingtonPost today is ratting out US troops for having a Tuborg beer in Iraq, checking out bellydancers in bars --while coalition troops swill beer in Afghanistan, stay inside their compounds, and let Americans do the fighting?
Obama's disgusting refusal yesterday when speaking to our military, to mention their actual achievements in Iraq:
win
victory
democracy
surge's success
Is a dereliction of duty by our weak lame Community Organizer in Chief.
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:41:11am |
re: #287 avanti
Anne thinks anyone but McCain could have beat Obama, so just pick Jindal/Palin and it'll be a cakewalk./s
I don't think that is true
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ziggyelman Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:41:25am |
The first two speakers after Ann were terrible, but Horowitz and Robert Davi have been great! Davi should run for office!
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jcm Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:42:06am |
re: #284 gman
Ann didn't mention any of the details you did. She said that since the Soviet Union couldn't win in Afghanistan, we shouldn't expect too either. She obviously doesn't understand the quality of our troops, has already forgotten how our Special Ops, by themselves, were able to send the Taliban running out of the country in 2001, and doesn't understand that words of support for our troops are important no matter what president we may have.
Winning comes down to the political will to win.
We didn't have the political will in Korea, or Vietnam. The problem is never with our troops, they have always been willing to win, in fact you have to stop them from winning.
The current administration doesn't have the will to win.
| 297 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:43:04am |
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:43:04am |
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jaunte Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:43:09am |
re: #277 Killian Bundy
I would guess it goes something like keep the Taliban from overrunning Kabul and Kandahar and keeping the al Qaeda base at heel back in Pakistan.
/the poppy fields damn it, are you serious?
What I'm seeing is a desire to 'stabilize' Afghanistan. The goal is vague.
“This increase is necessary to stabilize a deteriorating situation in Afghanistan, which has not received the strategic attention, direction and resources it urgently requires,” Obama said."
[Link: www.politico.com...]
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ziggyelman Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:43:19am |
re: #295 realwest
Who is Robert Davi ?
He's a character actor, if you look up the name, you will recognize him...
| 301 |
Holidays are Family Fun Time Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:43:24am |
Are there still empty seats and only white people in the audience at CPAC? I watched for a bit on CSPAN.
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gman Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:43:42am |
re: #294 jcm
Winning comes down to the political will to win.
We didn't have the political will in Korea, or Vietnam. The problem is never with our troops, they have always been willing to win, in fact you have to stop them from winning.The current administration doesn't have the will to win.
I agree and I think Ann needs to make that clear when she starts spouting off.
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HelloDare Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:44:02am |
Robert Davi filmography:
* Magic Man (2009) - Simpson
* One in the Gun (2009) - Vincent
* Spring Break '83 (2009) - Dean Whitter
* American Summer (2009) - Himself
* Magic (2008) - Dr. David Ortero
* An American Carol (2008) - Aziz
* Halo 3 (2007) - (voice) Shipmaster Rtas 'Vadumee
* The Butcher (2007) - Murdoch
* The Dukes (2007) - Danny (also: directorial debut)
* Stargate: Atlantis (2004-2006, 2008) (TV series) - Commander Acastus Kolya
* Scarface: The World Is Yours (2006) (VG) (voice)
* Huff (2006) (TV series) - Dickins
* In the Mix (2005) - Fish
* Breaking Vegas (2005) (TV series) - Narrator
* Halo 2 (2004) (VG) (voice) - Rtas 'Vadumee (SpecOps Leader)
* Karen Sisco (2004) (TV series) - Denton
* Call Me: The Rise and Fall of Heidi Fleiss (2004) (TV) - Ivan Nagy
* One Last Ride (2003) - Father
* Hitters (2002) - Nick
* The Hot Chick (2002) - Stan, April's Dad
* The 4th Tenor (2002) - Ierra
* Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (2002) (VG) (voice) - Colonel Juan Garcia Cortez
* Verdict in Blood (2002) (TV) - Wade Waters
* The Sorcerer's Apprentice (2002) - Merlin/Milner
* Soulkeeper (2001) - Mallion
* Profiler (1996-2000) (TV series) - Agent Bailey Malone
* The Pretender (1999-2000) (TV series) - Agent Bailey Malone
* My Little Assassin (1999) (TV) - Frank Sturgis
* Batman Beyond (1999) (TV series) - Dr. Mike Morgan
* The Bad Pack (1998) - McQue
* The Beneficiary (1997) (TV) - Gil Potter
* An Occasional Hell (1996) - Trooper Larry Abbott
* The Zone (1996) - Rowdy Welles
* For Which He Stands (1996) - Carlito Escalara
* Absolute Aggression (1996) - R. D. Crowley
* Showgirls (1995) - Al Torres
* Delta of Venus (1995) (voice) - The Collector
* Codename: Silencer (1995) - Eddie Cook
* VR.5 (1995) (TV series) - Simon Buchanan
* Cyber Vengeance (1995) - R.D. Crowley
* Cops and Robbersons (1994) - Osborn
* The November Men (1994) (uncredited) - Robert Davi
* Blind Justice (1994) - Alacran
* The Dangerous (1994) - Billy Davalos
* No Contest (1994) - Sergeant Crane
* Quick (1993) - Matthew Davenport
* Son of the Pink Panther (1993) - Hans Zarba
* Night Trap (1993) - Mike Turner
* Maniac Cop 3: Badge of Silence (1993) - Det. Sean McKinney
* Christopher Columbus: The Discovery (1992) - Martin Pinzon
* Illicit Behavior (1992) - Lt. Matt Walker
* Center of the Web (1992) - Richard Morgan
* Wild Orchid II: Two Shades of Blue (1992) - Sully
* The Taking of Beverly Hills (1991) - Robert Masterson
* FBI: The Untold Stories (?) (TV series) - Donnie Brasco
* White Hot: The Mysterious Murder of Thelma Todd (1991) (TV) - Lucky Luciano
* Under Surveillance (1991) -
* Legal Tender (1991) - Fix Cleary
* Amazon (1990) - Dan
* Predator 2 (1990) - Captain Phil Heinemann
* Maniac Cop 2 (1990) - Det. Sean McKinney
* Deceptions (1990) (TV) - Jack 'Harley' Kessler
* Peacemaker (1990/I) - Det. Sgt. Frank Ramos
* Wiseguy (1989) (TV series) - Albert Cerrico
* Licence to Kill (1989) - Franz Sanchez
* Traxx (1988) - Aldo Palucci
* Die Hard (1988) - FBI Special Agent Johnson
* L.A. Law (1988) (TV series) - Dominic Simonetti
* Action Jackson (1988) - Tony Moretti
* Terrorist on Trial: The United States vs. Salim Ajami (1988) (TV) - Salim Ajami
* Wild Thing (1987) - Chopper
* Raw Deal (1986) - Max Keller
* The Equalizer (1986) (TV series) - Michael Riegert
* Hunter (1985) (TV series) - Sonny Dunbar
* The Goonies (1985) - Jake Fratelli
* City Heat (1984) - Nino
* The Legend of the Golden Gun (1979) (TV) - William Quantrill
* From Here to Eternity (1979) (mini TV series) - Guard
* And Your Name Is Jonah (1979) (TV) - Dickie
* Charlie's Angels (1978) (TV series) - Ritchie
* Contract on Cherry Street (1977) (TV) - Mickey Sinardos, Greek hijacker
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Bobblehead Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:44:21am |
re: #295 realwest
Who is Robert Davi ?
Actor. You'd recognize him. Google him. Usually plays bad guys. Very striking. Tall. Great deep voice.
| 309 |
realwest Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:45:08am |
re: #302 gman
I think anyone who thinks Ann is a military strategist is a fool.
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ziggyelman Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:45:19am |
re: #303 snowcrash
Who is this blonde guy?
Andrew Bretbairt(SP?) you see a lot of stories off Drudge go to his site, he used to work for Drudge
| 311 |
Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:46:00am |
re: #309 realwest
I think anyone who thinks Ann is a military strategist is a fool.
I'll take her over Obama?
| 312 |
wiffersnapper Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:46:07am |
Is it weird that the freeze fram before you load the video has an old curly haired man at the podium? I read "Here's Ann Coulter" and then saw this guy's faced and I almost lost it.
| 313 |
Randall Gross Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:46:21am |
The Mughal emperors also conquered Afghanistan, The Huns did as well, as did the Ghurkas.
| 314 |
jcm Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:46:37am |
re: #311 Nevergiveup
I'll take her over Obama?
At least she'd listen to the right folks about strategy.
| 315 |
realwest Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:46:48am |
re: #304 HelloDare
Well after speaking here, I suspect his filmography won't get much longer.
| 316 |
Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:47:00am |
re: #313 Thanos
The Mughal emperors also conquered Afghanistan, The Huns did as well, as did the Ghurkas.
But they ain't there now!
| 317 |
ziggyelman Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:47:03am |
Who's this guy? Funny, now everyone is relaxed now when they speak....
| 318 |
monkeytime Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:47:33am |
Yea! Tellin the truth about Michael Moore!
| 319 |
Holidays are Family Fun Time Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:47:45am |
re: #305 jcm
I always confuse character actors. He reminds if the other scar-faced guy that usually plays bad guys: Danny Trejo.
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gman Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:47:57am |
re: #304 HelloDare
I can't help but wonder how many movie roles he was denied because of his political beliefs.
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HelloDare Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:48:10am |
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jcm Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:48:18am |
Brutal February for Blue Chips
A late burst of selling sealed a dismal finish for the stock market, which hit a fresh 12-year low on Friday as Citigroup sold a bigger chunk of itself to the government and General Electric slashed its dividend, spooking investors who were already jittery.The Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped 119.15 points, or 1.7%, to end at 7062.93. The blue-chip benchmark ended down 937.93 points, or 11.72% on the month -- the worst percentage drop for February since 1933, when it fell 15.62%. The Dow industrials have fallen six months in a row and are now more than 50% off their record highs hit in October of 2007.
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:48:49am |
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Killian Bundy Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:49:09am |
re: #299 jaunte
It's pretty much the same thing. We're trying to buy time until the Afghans "come around" and develop a cohesive central government, supported by the population, that trumps regional tribal loyalties.
/talk about your long haul
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:49:48am |
re: #313 Thanos
The Mughal emperors also conquered Afghanistan, The Huns did as well, as did the Ghurkas.
Those adversaries didn't have any ideas about winning the hearts and minds. I think all we can do in Afghanistan is keep the Northern Province of Pakistan from taking it over.
| 326 |
ConservatismNow! Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:49:55am |
OT news: Chiefs get Matt Cassel and Mike Vrabel from the Pats for a 2nd round pick!
| 327 |
Bobblehead Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:51:01am |
re: #320 gman
I can't help but wonder how many movie roles he was denied because of his political beliefs.
I don't know. He seems to be doing all right.
| 328 |
Colonel Panik Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:51:15am |
re: #264 Charles
Are the lefty blogs pissed off about something Coulter said yet? Anyone check firedoglake?
Isn't Jane Hamsher of FireDogLake the one who did the Lieberman in "blackface" photoshop during the 2006 campaign season? People think she is credible?
| 330 |
DistantThunder Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:51:54am |
re: #275 realwest
Who said that?
I said that. Roger gave a shout out to Charles, and I said: The Titans of Bloggery.
| 331 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:51:59am |
re: #326 ConservatismNow!
Thought the Pats were going to Franchise Matt. Huh. Brady must be feelin' better.
| 332 |
Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:52:31am |
re: #326 ConservatismNow!
OT news: Chiefs get Matt Cassel and Mike Vrabel from the Pats for a 2nd round pick!
Wow. I guess Brady is OK. I guess there was never any way the Jets were getting him anyway.
| 333 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:52:44am |
re: #330 DistantThunder
I said that. Roger gave a shout out to Charles, and I said: The Titans of Bloggery.
Obama, Reid, Pelosi...The Titans of Boondoggery.
| 334 |
ConservatismNow! Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:52:55am |
re: #331 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Yeah that's one hell of a shocker.
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:52:59am |
re: #331 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Thought the Pats were going to Franchise Matt. Huh. Brady must be feelin' better.
They did
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DistantThunder Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:53:45am |
Our two young cub scouts have to make a presentation tonight at the Blue and Gold dinner. They each have to speak on a real hero, and an imaginary hero.
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jaunte Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:54:00am |
I like what this guy is saying about film-making outside of the Hollywood orbit. Spreading that capability out from their monopoly is all to the good.
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realwest Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:54:01am |
re: #330 DistantThunder
AH! LOL! I thought Roger had said it! LOL!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:54:14am |
re: #336 DistantThunder
Barack Obama. Imaginary Hero.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:55:16am |
re: #336 DistantThunder
Our two young cub scouts have to make a presentation tonight at the Blue and Gold dinner. They each have to speak on a real hero, and an imaginary hero.
Obama should suffice for the imaginary hero.
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debutaunt Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:56:16am |
re: #336 DistantThunder
Our two young cub scouts have to make a presentation tonight at the Blue and Gold dinner. They each have to speak on a real hero, and an imaginary hero.
Reagan and Obama?
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:56:27am |
The CIA Factbook does not paint a pretty picture of Afghanistan. Opium is also listed first among their crops. Zero water square footage. Overall it sounds like a candidate for becoming the nuclear waste storage unit for the world. Can the people be convinced to leave? Why would they want to stay?
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Colonel Panik Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:56:29am |
re: #329 Iron Fist
Totally OT, but does anyone on LGF read Tibetan? I'm considering getting some Tibetan added to my lower left sleeve, but I'd kind of like to be sure of what I'm getting written on me. I can at least compare Chinese and Japanese, and check sources, but I'm not finding a whole lot on the net for Tibetan. This is the best I've found, and it'll work if I can just get some confirmation that it doesn't say "Stupid Gaijin" :-)
Get one that says "The Chinese People's Liberation Army doesn't give a sh** about your Free Tibet bumpersticker, lefty."
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Killian Bundy Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:56:45am |
re: #339 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Barack Obama. Imaginary Hero.
/Superman has the S, Underdog has the U, Obama has the . . .
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Lincolntf Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:57:04am |
re: #326 ConservatismNow!
Are you 100% sure? I heard about Vrabel, not Cassel. Seems like a lot for a second rounder.
...Heading off to the Pats fan sites...
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:57:10am |
re: #344 ggt
The CIA Factbook does not paint a pretty picture of Afghanistan. Opium is also listed first among their crops. Zero water square footage. Overall it sounds like a candidate for becoming the nuclear waste storage unit for the world. Can the people be convinced to leave? Why would they want to stay?
Most of them live in the 7nth century
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debutaunt Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:57:11am |
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:57:50am |
re: #347 Lincolntf
Are you 100% sure? I heard about Vrabel, not Cassel. Seems like a lot for a second rounder.
...Heading off to the Pats fan sites...
It's on ESPN for what that is worth
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:58:00am |
CIA factbook on Afghanistan --sorry, forgot the link
pimf
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realwest Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:58:14am |
Well y'all it's been grand as usual, but I gotta leave - hope you all have a GREAT day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:58:52am |
re: #348 Nevergiveup
Most of them live in the 7nth century
The infant mortality rate certainly supports your statement.
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Emperor Norton Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:58:57am |
The phrase "imaginary hero" strongly suggests the word Kerry to me.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Feb 28, 2009 10:59:48am |
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:00:23am |
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:01:03am |
I gotta go.
Have a great day all!
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:01:54am |
re: #354 itellu3times
So, the US has pulled out of Durban II?
That's the word out of Israel but no announcement yet from State of the WH? Internal battles going on?
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newsjunkie_ky Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:04:44am |
re: #362 alegrias
* * *
The 35 jihad training camps' right to free speech & existence are probably defended by the ACLU.But anti-jihad Camp Gitmo, the ACLU says is a crime against jihadists.
It's a World turned upside down. Bizzaro!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:05:20am |
Chiefs new GM seems to be visiting his old treasure chest. Chiefs will be Pats West?
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Killgore Trout Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:06:10am |
re: #356 newsjunkie_ky
Martin Mawyer and the Christian Action Network are not credible sources.
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Nevergiveup Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:06:52am |
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:07:38am |
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Catttt Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:08:00am |
OT post - wanted to share something a retiring person at my company said:
“People may forget what you say or do, but they never forget how you made them feel.”
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jaunte Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:08:26am |
re: #366 Sharmuta
Don't know, but it sure is taking up a lot of space on the LGF Spy.
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Randall Gross Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:08:33am |
re: #356 newsjunkie_ky
Yes Charles did articles on this when that nutball first appeared on Hannity, maybe you should go back and read them before linking their youtube channel?
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Sharmuta Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:08:51am |
re: #370 Walter L. Newton
LeBain doesn't seem to like anyone.
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jcm Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:09:05am |
re: #369 Nevergiveup
What's he like
Good guy! Good show, he's subbed for Hannity a few times. Kirby was the point guy in '93 for a protest against Hillary, and Hillary Care the wheels started coming of the Hillary care bus at that point. She even wrote about it in her book.
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jaunte Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:11:46am |
re: #376 Sharmuta
No consistency to the down/up ding pattern.
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Catttt Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:12:05am |
re: #373 jaunte
Don't know, but it sure is taking up a lot of space on the LGF Spy.
Maybe he/she just discovered the ratings thing. I saw an upding in there too.
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monkeytime Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:12:40am |
He just down dinged a post a made earlier - a joke about not watchng the news if you don't want to ruin your day. Who is this cat?
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Killgore Trout Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:13:55am |
OT: Ugly cat
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newsjunkie_ky Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:14:05am |
re: #367 Killgore Trout
Martin Mawyer and the Christian Action Network are not credible sources.
Neither are you.
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hazzyday Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:14:51am |
re: #284 gman
Ann didn't mention any of the details you did. She said that since the Soviet Union couldn't win in Afghanistan, we shouldn't expect too either. She obviously doesn't understand the quality of our troops, has already forgotten how our Special Ops, by themselves, were able to send the Taliban running out of the country in 2001, and doesn't understand that words of support for our troops are important no matter what president we may have.
She is speaking for the leftist media when she talks like that. She is using the words she thinks they really want to use but don't say aloud. She does this constantly. There is a CCC karma there somewhere.
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jcm Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:14:58am |
re: #382 monkeytime
He just down dinged a post a made earlier - a joke about not watchng the news if you don't want to ruin your day. Who is this cat?
Karma: -5
LeBain
(Logged in)
Registered since: Feb 4, 2008 at 8:46 pm
No. of comments posted: 9
No. of links posted: 0
Lebain! Come on down and make your point.
Or can you only operate a mouse, but a keyboard is beyond you?
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monkeytime Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:16:12am |
re: #389 jcm
He has got to hold the record in the most down dings given out in one day.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:17:17am |
re: #387 newsjunkie_ky
Neither are you.
That's why if I made a bogus documentary most people would ignore it.
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Catttt Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:17:21am |
re: #383 ploome hineni
like NObama...he did nothing, and then he lies
but he sure makes the loons feeeeeeeeeeeeeel good
He does. And he makes a sizeable portion of us feel weird. A mixed blessing in his case.
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itellu3times Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:20:22am |
re: #360 Nevergiveup
That's the word out of Israel but no announcement yet from State of the WH? Internal battles going on?
Hillary? Oh, Hillary?
Obama?
Rahm?
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Catttt Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:20:56am |
re: #386 Killgore Trout
Expensive cat. Needs a sweater. Likes that warm spot on the comp.
My Siamese was heartbroken when I got a flatscreen. He tried several times to balance on top of it. I bought him a PetSmart heated bed and set it up in the corner of the desk to compensate for the loss.
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itellu3times Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:24:03am |
re: #360 Nevergiveup
That's the word out of Israel but no announcement yet from State of the WH? Internal battles going on?
WaPo (page 6) has it.
NEW YORK, Feb. 27 -- The Obama administration has said it will boycott a major U.N. conference on racism scheduled for April unless significant changes are made to the draft outcome document, which U.S. officials say unfairly singles out Israel for censure and could restrict freedom of speech.
A State Department official said that the current text is "unsalvageable" and that the United States would reconsider its position only if the negotiators stripped out provisions criticizing Israel's occupation of Palestinian lands and recommendations for restrictions on the defamation of religions, an initiative by Islamic states that Washington fears could undercut free speech. The United States also opposes any language requiring reparations for slavery.
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ConservatismNow! Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:26:39am |
re: #365 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The thinking behind the Vrabel pick was that he wanted someone who worked under his system. Vrabel's a good LB too. Seemed a smart pick
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newsjunkie_ky Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:29:27am |
re: #392 Killgore Trout
That's why if I made a bogus documentary most people would ignore it.
You are ignored.
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manray favjet Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:29:51am |
This is a link to what I consider to be one of Reagan's greatest speeches. It was during the 1975 CPAC convention. I swear it's as if he had written it today. These are two of my favorite quotes. "I don ‘t know about you, but I am impatient with those Republicans who after the last election rushed into print saying, “We must broaden the base of our party”—when what they meant was to fuzz up and blur even more the differences between ourselves and our opponents." And,"A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers."
[Link: www.conservative.org...]
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shiek al beif salami Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:29:56am |
re: #260 DistantThunder
I thought it was as creepy as the kid-choir singing Obama hymns. It's a sad state of things when little kids have nothing better to do than ape politicians.
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Killian Bundy Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:34:57am |
re: #401 shiek al beif salami
as creepy as the kid-choir singing Obama hymns
/it was uncanny foreshadowing
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jcm Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:39:12am |
re: #404 ploome hineni
remind me what is this karma system supposed to do
and why do you think LeBain owes anyone anything?
LOL!
I think we need a Lizard to earn some scales before they have the ability to ding.
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lobo91 Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:43:16am |
re: #344 ggt
The CIA Factbook does not paint a pretty picture of Afghanistan. Opium is also listed first among their crops. Zero water square footage. Overall it sounds like a candidate for becoming the nuclear waste storage unit for the world. Can the people be convinced to leave? Why would they want to stay?
Afghanistan is going to be a much greater challentge than Iraq was, due to the simple fact that it's not an actual country, in any normal sense of the term. Most people who have never been there, or haven't talked to people who have been there, have no comprehension of what the place is like, outside of the cities.
The terrain of Afghanistan is what shapes its history, and its people. Most of the country is filled with incredibly steep mountains, and is, for the most part, impassible by vehicles. In between the mountains are narrow valleys, which is where the different tribes live in their little villages, raising goats and growing whatever other food they are able to get to grow. Most of the people in one of these villages have never been to the next valley, much less to Kabul. They've probably never met anyone from outside of their own village.
This is where Afghanistan differs from Iraq. In Iraq, there is a clan/tribal structure that comes first in people's loyalties, but at some level, they do have an identity as Iraqis. They may not like the central government, particularly if they aren't members of the ruling faction, but they at least acknowledge its existence. In Afghanistan, the people living in those villages are probably only barely aware that there is such a thing as a central government, and they've most likely never met anyone involved with it. Even if they have, they speak a different language from them.
For an American or other westerner, going into one of those villages is almost like being on an "away team" from the Enterprise or something, trying to explain the Federation and your starship to some aliens.
Getting those people to work toward a common goal of creating a cohesive society is going to take decades, if not centuries.
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shiek al beif salami Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:43:42am |
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LynnfromNZ Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:49:13am |
Goodness sakes. Not the screeching offensive hairball everyone would have bet on, and sharing the stage with a black speaker even. Ann better watch it, her reputation here as a bitchy racist is in grave danger.
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ConservatismNow! Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:49:48am |
re: #407 lobo91
Makes one wonder how Ghengis Khan and Alexander the Great were able to defeat such a people. A testament to their military genius I guess.
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LynnfromNZ Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:51:01am |
re: #361 Lincolntf
There's the old Pioli pipeline. Shoot. I was so hoping the Vikings would make a serious play for Cassel. All we need is an NFL-quality starting quarterback and we'd be dangerous.
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FrogMarch Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:53:06am |
re: #131 Charles
So far it's stale political stand-up.
Which is something the conservatives need to ditch - pronto.
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ConservatismNow! Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:53:30am |
re: #411 LynnfromNZ
Haha I was just saying to a co-worker that the Vikes should just go to a Wildcat offense and give the ball to AD every time. Cuts out the QB problem. If he feels like tossing it to a receiver, sure.
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LynnfromNZ Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:53:42am |
re: #5 SixDegrees
Care to give an example of Coulter engaging in "bigoted hate speech?"
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lobo91 Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:54:33am |
re: #410 ConservatismNow!
Makes one wonder how Ghengis Khan and Alexander the Great were able to defeat such a people. A testament to their military genius I guess.
Not necessarily. Our goals aren't the same as theirs were, nor are our tactcs.
If we wanted to do the modern-day equivalent of what Ghengis Khan did in Afghanistan, we could. We certainly have the technology to do so. We could probably kill half the Afghan population before CPAC is over, if we wanted to.
Turning the place into a functioning modern society is going to be a hell of a lot harder.
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LynnfromNZ Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:56:48am |
re: #413 ConservatismNow!
Be better than what they have. Honestly, ever since Fran Tarkenton, it seems, our strategy has been to build a team good enough to withstand the lack of a decent QB.
I mean, you put half the starting QBs in the league on the Vikes last year and they probably make the NFC Championship game. Best running back in the league, fine o-line -- for my money the best center in the league -- stellar defense, and I was about to say "a black hole" at quarterback but that would get taken wrong around here.
Honestly, Jackson's a decent backup, he played well down the stretch last year, but hocked up a real choker in the playoffs.
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shiek al beif salami Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:58:14am |
re: #414 LynnfromNZ
"bigoted hate speech" is code talk for "she is the only Republican who still has cajones."
Ann speaks truth to cower.
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tradewind Sat, Feb 28, 2009 11:59:30am |
Some more subtle but just as bigoted ' hate speech'. And it got national airtime in primetime.
That tingle Chris Matthews feels oughta be from a cattle prod...
[Link: www.mediabistro.com...]
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LynnfromNZ Sat, Feb 28, 2009 12:01:16pm |
re: #417 shiek al beif salami
That's my impression, too.
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ConservatismNow! Sat, Feb 28, 2009 12:01:48pm |
re: #415 lobo91
The terrain was what I was referring to. Even people whose sole goal is to subjugate and kill others still have to climb a mountain to do it when they are in Afghanistan. And when all you have are horsemen armed with bows and spears? That job is made even harder.
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FrogMarch Sat, Feb 28, 2009 12:02:02pm |
re: #260 DistantThunder
This was inspiring. Simple. Elegant. Exact.
"Conservatism: an ideology of protecting the people and the people's rights."
So then, it stands that modern "liberalism" or "left-wing democrat socialism" or "progressivism" -- is the exact opposite.
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LynnfromNZ Sat, Feb 28, 2009 12:02:42pm |
re: #413 ConservatismNow!
Second-round draft pick? That's all the Patriots asked for Cassel? A stinking second-round draft pick? The NFL oughta look and see what collusion's going on there, that's... ridiculous. That just reeks of back-door under the table dealing between old cronies there.
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tradewind Sat, Feb 28, 2009 12:02:44pm |
re: #421 FrogMarch
Damn straight skippy...
Subjugating the people and stripping them of their rights.
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Lincolntf Sat, Feb 28, 2009 12:13:07pm |
re: #422 LynnfromNZ
I don't think there's anything unethical about it, but it does seem like a sweet deal for the Chiefs.
One of the radio guys was saying that Detroit has the 1st, 20th and 33rd pick (all ahead of the pick the Pats traded for ((34th)) and he was flabbergasted that the Pats couldn't have swung a better deal with them. Maybe the Pats rewarded Cassel by letting him avoid Motown.
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ConservatismNow! Sat, Feb 28, 2009 12:15:59pm |
re: #424 Lincolntf
I don't think there's anything unethical about it, but it does seem like a sweet deal for the Chiefs.
One of the radio guys was saying that Detroit has the 1st, 20th and 33rd pick (all ahead of the pick the Pats traded for ((34th)) and he was flabbergasted that the Pats couldn't have swung a better deal with them. Maybe the Pats rewarded Cassel by letting him avoid Motown.
And he probably leapt at the chance to still play under Scott Pioli, plus he probably figured that by the time he gets a chance to lead the Pats, his team will no longer be as dominant as they were. Moving to a team with a lot of potential and having a chance at the starting job was a smart move overall.
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lobo91 Sat, Feb 28, 2009 12:20:57pm |
re: #420 ConservatismNow!
The terrain was what I was referring to. Even people whose sole goal is to subjugate and kill others still have to climb a mountain to do it when they are in Afghanistan. And when all you have are horsemen armed with bows and spears? That job is made even harder.
I'm not an expert on the ancient campaigns in that part of the world, so I'm not sure if they even did that. They may very well have concentrated on the southern part of the country, which is much less daunting terrain. In those days, you could probably capture Kabul without anyone in the north even being aware of it (or caring, since, as I mentioned earlier, the people in the northern villages don't identify with the one down south anyway).
The reason we can't pursue a similar strategy today, of course, is that's where the Taliban come from (or at least where they come through, since they're largely a foreign element themselves).
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lobo91 Sat, Feb 28, 2009 12:29:47pm |
It's funny, but in some ways, the comparison between Afghanistan and Vietnam is actually more accurate than you might think. Outside of the cities, Vietnam was largely a collection of subsistence farming villages, inhabited by people who had very little interest in what was going on in Saigon.
From their standpoint, it didn't really matter all that much who was running the central government, because their main contact with them was when they sent soldiers into their village to take a chunk of the rice they'd spent all year growng as "taxes." Whether the soldiers were carrying M-16s or AK-47s was pretty much irrelevant to them. They certainly had no opinion as to whether the people who sent the soldiers into their village should be Communists or "democratically elected."
Trying to convince some village elder in the mountains of Afghanistan to support Karazai in Kabul is about as pointless as if the first British colonists had gotten off the boat and asked the Indians who they thought should be prime minister of England.
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Wendya Sat, Feb 28, 2009 12:58:02pm |
re: #112 Jim in Virginia
Coulter is a hottie but she's a bombthrower. She isn't a serious thinker and she says things just to make people mad.
Have you read any of her early books?
I gotta say, when it comes to throwing people under the bus and pretending we had no idea of their true nature, pandering conservatives make Obama look like a rank amateur.
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LynnfromNZ Sat, Feb 28, 2009 12:58:42pm |
re: #425 ConservatismNow!
Frankly if it were me I'd have traded Brady. Cassel seems like a young Brady, why not get a raft of picks and role players the The Best Player In The League, patch a lot of holes all at once, and you've still got your franchise QB for the next seven years?
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LynnfromNZ Sat, Feb 28, 2009 12:59:54pm |
re: #428 Wendya
And it's so nice and refreshing to hear a conservative who truly sounds like she's talking from the heart, as opposed to Noonan, Parker, Will or Krauthammer, who just sound like they're anxious to stay on the A-list for White House dinner invitations for the next four years.
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SixDegrees Sat, Feb 28, 2009 1:35:35pm |
re: #414 LynnfromNZ
Care to give an example of Coulter engaging in "bigoted hate speech?"
Ask John Edwards.
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SixDegrees Sat, Feb 28, 2009 1:41:42pm |
re: #414 LynnfromNZ
Care to give an example of Coulter engaging in "bigoted hate speech?"
Or any "imperfect" Jew.
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SixDegrees Sat, Feb 28, 2009 1:45:54pm |
re: #417 shiek al beif salami
"bigoted hate speech" is code talk for "she is the only Republican who still has cajones."
No; it's code for "bigoted hate speech." Very little in the way of decoding is required.
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Randall Gross Sat, Feb 28, 2009 1:49:12pm |
re: #430 LynnfromNZ
I think you are confusing your anatomy, the bile duct is nowhere near the aorta.
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gman Sat, Feb 28, 2009 2:37:38pm |
re: #414 LynnfromNZ
Care to give an example of Coulter engaging in "bigoted hate speech?"
Here's an example:
Columnist Ann Coulter Shocks Cable TV Show, Declaring 'Jews Need to Be Perfected by Becoming Christians'
Coulter made the remarkable statements during an often heated appearance to promote her new book on advertising guru Donny Deutsch's CNBC show "The Big Idea."
In response to a question from Deutsch asking Coulter if "it would be better if we were all Christian," the controversial columnist responded: "Yes."
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gman Sat, Feb 28, 2009 2:47:35pm |
Another example:
"Ann used the term '[bigoted word]' when describing what our homeland security policies should be: 'I think our motto should be post-9-11, "[bigoted word] talks tough, [bigoted word] faces consequences."'
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LynnfromNZ Sat, Feb 28, 2009 3:26:44pm |
re: #437 gman
It's been standard Christian theology for 2,000 years that people would be better off by becoming Christians, just as atheists believe everyone would be better off as atheists and Muslims believe everyone would be better off Islamic, this is not bigoted hate speech.
"Perfected" Jews refers to Jews who have become Christians. It goes back to the fact that Jesus came as the Messiah promised in the Jewish scriptures, and came first to the nation of Israel, and then to the rest of the world, as both he and St. Paul make quite clear. All Christians are equal in the sight of God, of course, but humanly speaking, Christians hold the view that Jesus is the Messiah promised to Israel, who came through Israel to save the whole world. Therefore a Jew who believes in Jesus's messiahship is more "perfect" than Jew who does not in the Christian view.
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LynnfromNZ Sat, Feb 28, 2009 3:31:21pm |
re: #438 gman
Oh for goodness' sake. Many posters here on LGF have used far, far worse words talking about liberals, Obama and Democrats. Are they all bigoted hate-speakers?
Get a grip.
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gman Sat, Feb 28, 2009 3:42:26pm |
re: #439 LynnfromNZ
It's been standard Christian theology for 2,000 years that people would be better off by becoming Christians, just as atheists believe everyone would be better off as atheists and Muslims believe everyone would be better off Islamic, this is not bigoted hate speech.
"Perfected" Jews refers to Jews who have become Christians. It goes back to the fact that Jesus came as the Messiah promised in the Jewish scriptures, and came first to the nation of Israel, and then to the rest of the world, as both he and St. Paul make quite clear. All Christians are equal in the sight of God, of course, but humanly speaking, Christians hold the view that Jesus is the Messiah promised to Israel, who came through Israel to save the whole world. Therefore a Jew who believes in Jesus's messiahship is more "perfect" than Jew who does not in the Christian view.
She says in the video segment "We just want Jews to be perfected."
It's very clear what she means.
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gman Sat, Feb 28, 2009 3:44:15pm |
re: #440 LynnfromNZ
Oh for goodness' sake. Many posters here on LGF have used far, far worse words talking about liberals, Obama and Democrats. Are they all bigoted hate-speakers?
Get a grip.
Don't start deflecting the blame to LGF posters. You asked for an example of bigoted hate speech and I gave it to you.
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LynnfromNZ Sat, Feb 28, 2009 3:44:54pm |
re: #428 Wendya
She isn't a serious thinker? She thinks circles around the majority of columnists writing today, including conservatives. I'd put Sowell and Walter Williams ahead of her, maybe Krauthammer if he were reliably conservative, Victor Davis Hansen, maybe one or two others but that's about it.
Look, you don't need to like her style. But as far as her substance goes she's among the best there is. If she was all style and no substance she wouldn't have lasted as long as she has, if she was all substance and no style -- another Joseph Kraft, say -- nobody would read her.
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LynnfromNZ Sat, Feb 28, 2009 3:45:32pm |
re: #441 gman
Yes, she want them to become Christian. Christians want other people to become Christians to receive salvation. This is bigoted and hateful of us?
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LynnfromNZ Sat, Feb 28, 2009 3:46:21pm |
re: #442 gman
I'm not deflecting blame, I'm wondering about your standards. If you consider somebody using the term "[bigoted word]" to mark them as a bigoted hate-speaker then obviously somebody using worse terms than that is more bigoted and more hateful, right?
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gman Sat, Feb 28, 2009 3:48:11pm |
re: #444 LynnfromNZ
Yes, she want them to become Christian. Christians want other people to become Christians to receive salvation. This is bigoted and hateful of us?
She doesn't say that. She is saying Jews are "imperfect", which is a generalization.
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gman Sat, Feb 28, 2009 3:49:25pm |
re: #445 LynnfromNZ
I'm not deflecting blame, I'm wondering about your standards. If you consider somebody using the term "[bigoted word]" to mark them as a bigoted hate-speaker then obviously somebody using worse terms than that is more bigoted and more hateful, right?
You're not deflecting blame by saying LGF posters are posting much worse comments? It's pretty clear what you are doing.
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gman Sat, Feb 28, 2009 3:53:59pm |
re: #445 LynnfromNZ
I'm not deflecting blame, I'm wondering about your standards. If you consider somebody using the term "[bigoted word]" to mark them as a bigoted hate-speaker then obviously somebody using worse terms than that is more bigoted and more hateful, right?
LOL- the word you tried to post as not so bigoted, just got auto- edited.
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shiek al beif salami Sat, Feb 28, 2009 4:16:13pm |
re: #434 SixDegrees
In this context, "bigoted hate speech" is how people describe speech they don't agree with, which in itself is bigoted response. And why must "hate" always be part of the equation? I can hate something - broccoli, for instance - or I can be prejudiced toward something - French cars, for instance - but either does not automatically imply the other.
Why isn't it enough to say "I disagree with Ann Coulter?" Why must one also demonize her?
Good God, people.
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shiek al beif salami Sat, Feb 28, 2009 4:17:32pm |
re: #446 gman
So a generalization is necessarily bigoted? Or just when Ann Coulter says it?
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gman Sat, Feb 28, 2009 4:25:34pm |
re: #450 shiek al beif salami
So a generalization is necessarily bigoted? Or just when Ann Coulter says it?
How about when Ann says Jews are "imperfect"?
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shiek al beif salami Sat, Feb 28, 2009 4:38:08pm |
How about when she said that Christians are "imperfect?" And even if she didn't actually say it in as many words, she certainly implied that many Muslims are imperfect. Oh, and then there were the Democrats and liberals - she tends to be pretty clear about their imperfection.
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gman Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:18:28pm |
re: #452 shiek al beif salami
How about when she said that Christians are "imperfect?" And even if she didn't actually say it in as many words, she certainly implied that many Muslims are imperfect. Oh, and then there were the Democrats and liberals - she tends to be pretty clear about their imperfection.
You are still not addressing the issue. Namely, that Ann said Jews are
"imperfect".
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LynnfromNZ Sat, Feb 28, 2009 5:42:46pm |
re: #446 gman
I just listened to the whole thing and I never heard her use the word "imperfect." If she did I missed it, give me the time count where she says it, otherwise don't use quote marks when you put words in people's mouths, but you're doing the same thing that show host did to Ann -- thinking that what you understand by "perfected" is what Ann means, even though Ann goes to a lot of effort to explain -- correctly -- what the phrase means theologically.
The show moderator didn't listen, and you evidently didn't even to try to listen to her as well -- all it means is a Jew becoming a Christian. Ann thinks it would be better for Jews if they did so, which is mainstream Christian theology, just like it's standard Christian belief that anybody is in a better relationship with God as a Christian.
Christians speak of Jews as being "perfected," and don't use that terminology with anyone else, because we consider the Jews, as God's Chosen People, to have a head start, so to speak, on salvation. The Messiah was foretold through the Jewish scriptures, Jesus the Messiah was Jewish, the disciples were Jewish, the first church was primarily Jews, St. Paul would always seek out Jews in the synagogue on his mission trips, etc. We Gentile Christians are described as "wild olive shoots" grafted onto the tree of life, which was originally Jewish. Therefore the "perfect" fulfillment of the Old Testament prophecies is for someone in the Jewish tradition to acknowledge Jesus as the promised Messiah, yes.
I admire Ann actually for trying to speak of theological beliefs in such a setting, knowing the other person's not going to listen, and is just going to look for ways to pick what you say apart. Which happens to her a lot.
But if Ann's so anti-Jewish why did she say the ideal Democratic Party is one that looks like Joe Lieberman?
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gman Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:10:35pm |
re: #455 LynnfromNZ
Appears to have happened to you as well.
oops! You didn't read my comment #441 above. In that comment, I gave you the link to the video and quoted what she said,
"We just want Jews to be perfected".
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LynnfromNZ Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:17:49pm |
re: #456 gman
Rats, I can see you're one of those people who isn't interested in honest discussions, but who simply throws up smokescreens when you don't have any intelligent replies to make. It's good to know things like that early on a board, saves time in knowing who who take seriously and who to ignore.
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gman Sat, Feb 28, 2009 6:31:26pm |
re: #457 LynnfromNZ
Rats, I can see you're one of those people who isn't interested in honest discussions, but who simply throws up smokescreens when you don't have any intelligent replies to make. It's good to know things like that early on a board, saves time in knowing who who take seriously and who to ignore.
Once again, you deflect blame, and do not address the issue at hand.
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baslimthecripple Sun, Mar 1, 2009 7:26:45am |
There is a character from my favorite author, Robert Heinlein (regardless of how weird he got much past Stranger in a Strange Land) a Mr. Kikuyu,who in The Star Beast, says that there are those upon who's toes one must tread, until they apologize. The Ann Coulters are the ones who do the treading. Punch the bastards in the face until THEIR nose bleeds. Is she a bomb thrower? Good, we need a few. A rabble-rouser? Fine, so call me rabble.
Think of her as an articulate (and attractive) John Murtha, Henry Waxman, Charles Shumer, Sheila Jackson-Lee, Maxine Waters, Patrick Leahy, Chris Dodd, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Tom Harkin ... I mean, seriously. the list of loud-mouthed, democrat ideologues is basically endless. Not to mention blasts from the past like Pat Schroeder, Bella Abzug, and Jerry Ferraro. So if Ann is willing to get up close and personal, and shove a knee in their collective groin, more power to her. The old adage has it the money talks and shit walks. The dems have it the other way around.
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