These are some albums I bought recently and recommend, with Amazon’s cool little MP3 widget that lets you listen to clips and click through if you want to buy. The records are:
Joe Bonamassa: The Ballad Of John HenryExternal Image.
Robert Plant and Alison Krauss: Raising SandExternal Image.
Keith Jarrett: RadianceExternal Image.
King’s X: XVExternal Image.
Tommy Emmanuel: The MysteryExternal Image.
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Shug Fri, Jun 12, 2009 2:36:47pm |
I love Robert Plant and Alison Kraus on their own and I've tried to get into their duets but I'm just not feeling it.
I'm quite disappointed that I wasn't blown away. I was so excited when I heard of the combo
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Kragar Fri, Jun 12, 2009 2:38:27pm |
Anyone else play EVE Online? I just started last week.
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Sharmuta Fri, Jun 12, 2009 2:41:50pm |
re: #6 Shug
Damn, I've never seen anyone insult Mandy like that before.
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albusteve Fri, Jun 12, 2009 2:42:13pm |
have seen Joe Bonamassa at the Royal Oak Theater up in MI...blew the house away...when he takes off you almost gotta take cover...but he plays some lighter delicate stuff too...
I remember Allison and Union Station doing the bluegrass circuit...cute little fiddle player with a squeeky high voice...always a crowd pleaser...she has that mountain soul quality
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Kragar Fri, Jun 12, 2009 2:42:23pm |
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Sharmuta Fri, Jun 12, 2009 2:42:46pm |
Definitely not enough time on the Keith Jarrett samples to get a good idea of the music.
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jun 12, 2009 2:44:35pm |
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Shug Fri, Jun 12, 2009 2:45:52pm |
re: #13 Kosh's Shadow
Or all the different colored fonts.
or followed by maniacal rantings.
Mandy is cool........and I know better than to get my knuckels rapped with her ruler.
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albusteve Fri, Jun 12, 2009 2:45:54pm |
re: #10 Shug
Mandy's probably never been drunk in El Paso either
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BlueCanuck Fri, Jun 12, 2009 2:46:24pm |
re: #14 Shug
or followed by maniacal rantings.
Mandy is cool........and I know better than to get my knuckels rapped with her ruler.
Ruler? I thought she used something a bit more....sturdy.
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albusteve Fri, Jun 12, 2009 2:48:34pm |
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eon Fri, Jun 12, 2009 2:49:39pm |
re: #19 yochanan
[Link: cheezburger.com...]
If I could do that, I wouldn't need a "health plan".
/The occasional mouse, maybe :-)
cheers
eon
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 12, 2009 2:49:59pm |
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yochanan Fri, Jun 12, 2009 2:50:18pm |
now if allison could sing a little louder i could not hear her at all.
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Sharmuta Fri, Jun 12, 2009 2:50:36pm |
Wow- that was quite a jolt going from Keith Jarrett to King's X.
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jun 12, 2009 2:51:33pm |
Brain shut down, time to head home instead of debugging installer problems.
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Kragar Fri, Jun 12, 2009 2:53:14pm |
WHY THE HELL DO THEY WAIT TILL 2:30 ON A FRIDAY TO DEAL WITH A PROBLEM I REPORTED LAST WEEK?
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DEZes Fri, Jun 12, 2009 2:53:48pm |
re: #28 Sharmuta
I am. Thanks for asking. I hope you're well.
I cant complain, besides no one would listen.
;)
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 12, 2009 2:54:19pm |
SHOCKA
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
Key health care senators have industry ties
WASHINGTON – Influential senators working to overhaul the nation's health care system have investments and family ties with some of the biggest names in the industry. The wife of Sen. Chris Dodd, the lawmaker in charge of writing the Senate's bill, sits on the boards of four health care companies
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 12, 2009 2:54:33pm |
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 12, 2009 2:54:38pm |
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DEZes Fri, Jun 12, 2009 2:55:21pm |
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 12, 2009 2:56:20pm |
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callahan23 Fri, Jun 12, 2009 2:56:31pm |
re: #30 DEZes
I cant complain, besides no one would listen.
;)
Who says so? There is loads of people here listening! ;-)
Hi DEZes.
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yochanan Fri, Jun 12, 2009 2:56:40pm |
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DEZes Fri, Jun 12, 2009 2:57:40pm |
re: #39 callahan23
Who says so? There is loads of people here listening! ;-)
Hi DEZes.
You can hear me?
I gotta stop talking to myself. ;)
Good day to you Callahan.
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eon Fri, Jun 12, 2009 2:57:59pm |
re: #31 sattv4u2
SHOCKA
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
Key health care senators have industry ties
WASHINGTON – Influential senators working to overhaul the nation's health care system have investments and family ties with some of the biggest names in the industry. The wife of Sen. Chris Dodd, the lawmaker in charge of writing the Senate's bill, sits on the boards of four health care companies
As they always say at the beginning of every Senate session, "Let us pray prey."
You have to wonder just how much further they can take "pay to play" without pushing the bounds of pure hypermathematics farther than a Disaster Area tax return does.
cheers
eon
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Shug Fri, Jun 12, 2009 2:58:43pm |
Senator Dodd, how many calories in a waitress sandwich?
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 12, 2009 2:58:57pm |
I'm taking a wee break from dinner preparations. I'm making radiatore baked in tomato sauce with lotsa' garlic and basil, a huge romaine salad, crusty garlic bread and orange sherbet with dark chocolate shavings.
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DEZes Fri, Jun 12, 2009 2:59:36pm |
re: #44 MandyManners
I'm taking a wee break from dinner preparations. I'm making radiatore baked in tomato sauce with lotsa' garlic and basil, a huge romaine salad, crusty garlic bread and orange sherbet with dark chocolate shavings.
Can I come over?
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turn Fri, Jun 12, 2009 2:59:44pm |
re: #44 MandyManners
I'm taking a wee break from dinner preparations. I'm making radiatore baked in tomato sauce with lotsa' garlic and basil, a huge romaine salad, crusty garlic bread and orange sherbet with dark chocolate shavings.
umm, what time is dinner?
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Alaska Kim Fri, Jun 12, 2009 2:59:48pm |
Damn. Two more climbers die in a 2k foot fall on Mt. McKinley. Two doctors from down south. I don't understand the mentality of wanting to climb that mountain.
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callahan23 Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:00:39pm |
re: #41 DEZes
You can hear me?
I gotta stop talking to myself. ;)
Good day to you Callahan.
At least read you.
Not of course in 'the mind-reading' way. And a very fine day to you.
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albusteve Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:00:52pm |
re: #47 Alaska Kim
Damn. Two more climbers die in a 2k foot fall on Mt. McKinley. Two doctors from down south. I don't understand the mentality of wanting to climb that mountain.
because it's a killer?
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DEZes Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:00:59pm |
re: #47 Alaska Kim
Damn. Two more climbers die in a 2k foot fall on Mt. McKinley. Two doctors from down south. I don't understand the mentality of wanting to climb that mountain.
They fall in love with the idea.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:01:15pm |
re: #42 eon
As they always say at the beginning of every Senate session, "Let us
prayprey."You have to wonder just how much further they can take "pay to play" without pushing the bounds of pure hypermathematics farther than a Disaster Area tax return does.
cheers
eon
There has to be a new law passed. After a someone gets elected to the senate or house, their spouses and kids can NOT be hired by a company that is regulated or overseen by gov't. So many times the "senators" hands are clean, but we find out that VOILA,, his wife was named to the board of Widget Co. a month after the senator was sworn in
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Alaska Kim Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:02:04pm |
re: #50 DEZes
They fall in love with the idea.
I think it's crazy.
Be interesting to see if CBS fires Letterman.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:02:18pm |
Checking out a different layout -- main content on the left, two sidebars on the right.
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DEZes Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:02:22pm |
What do you get if you cross an elephant with a rhino?
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Kragar Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:02:43pm |
US cities may have to be bulldozed in order to survive
The government looking at expanding a pioneering scheme in Flint, one of the poorest US cities, which involves razing entire districts and returning the land to nature.
Local politicians believe the city must contract by as much as 40 per cent, concentrating the dwindling population and local services into a more viable area.
The radical experiment is the brainchild of Dan Kildee, treasurer of Genesee County, which includes Flint.
Having outlined his strategy to Barack Obama during the election campaign, Mr Kildee has now been approached by the US government and a group of charities who want him to apply what he has learnt to the rest of the country.
Mr Kildee said he will concentrate on 50 cities, identified in a recent study by the Brookings Institution, an influential Washington think-tank, as potentially needing to shrink substantially to cope with their declining fortunes.
Most are former industrial cities in the "rust belt" of America's Mid-West and North East. They include Detroit, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Baltimore and Memphis.
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Shug Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:02:58pm |
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:02:59pm |
re: #55 Charles
Checking out a different layout -- main content on the left, two sidebars on the right.
You do the Hokey Pokey and you shake all about, thats what its all about!
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callahan23 Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:02:59pm |
re: #44 MandyManners
I'm taking a wee break from dinner preparations. I'm making radiatore baked in tomato sauce with lotsa' garlic and basil, a huge romaine salad, crusty garlic bread and orange sherbet with dark chocolate shavings.
Where is the next stepping disk? Only happens when you desperately need one.
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Alaska Kim Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:03:09pm |
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freetoken Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:03:11pm |
re: #53 Sharmuta
Maybe it is just my web browser... but when I went to get "new comments", the front page loaded.
Now, the left hand column is on the right.... argh!
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Digital Display Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:03:16pm |
*******************************************
This is my first Birthday here!
*******************************************
It has been my greatest privilege to meet you Lizard this last year.
I have learned a lot, Shared a lot, met some outstanding people here.
Thank you....And thanks for the thousands of prayers and emails for
our Marine Son...
********************************************
Charles you have something most bloggers lack...
It's called integrity...Hat tip sir...
********************************************
golly.That year just seemed to fly by didn't it?
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doppelganglander Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:03:46pm |
re: #55 Charles
Checking out a different layout -- main content on the left, two sidebars on the right.
I vote for the current layout. I have enough disruption in my life right now; I don't think I can handle anymore change.
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Sharmuta Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:03:49pm |
re: #62 freetoken
I didn't see what was going on until I reloaded the page.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:03:58pm |
re: #63 HoosierHoops
*******************************************
This is my first Birthday here!
*******************************************
It has been my greatest privilege to meet you Lizard this last year.
I have learned a lot, Shared a lot, met some outstanding people here.
Thank you....And thanks for the thousands of prayers and emails for
our Marine Son...
********************************************
Charles you have something most bloggers lack...
It's called integrity...Hat tip sir...
********************************************
golly.That year just seemed to fly by didn't it?
You type very well for a one year old!
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Dianna Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:04:06pm |
re: #55 Charles
Checking out a different layout -- main content on the left, two sidebars on the right.
You have no idea what a relief that news is. For just a minute there, I thought I was seeing double.
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Shug Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:04:49pm |
The stalker blog will say that this is proof this blog has moved to the left
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IslandLibertarian Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:05:07pm |
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callahan23 Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:05:35pm |
re: #56 DEZes
What do you get if you cross an elephant with a rhino?
Either it's a rhinophant or better yet an eleno.
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doppelganglander Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:05:51pm |
re: #63 HoosierHoops
Happy lizard birthday!
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albusteve Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:06:07pm |
re: #71 Sharmuta
I liked it better before, Charles.
feels like I'm tilting outa my chair...I vote nay...NAY!
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Sharmuta Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:06:46pm |
re: #79 albusteve
feels like I'm tilting outa my chair...I vote nay...NAY!
It feels like the thread has been oddly Rogered.
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albusteve Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:07:22pm |
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freetoken Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:08:11pm |
left-right dimorphism is important to my ape-brain.
(indeed, to all sapiens... which probably is the reason we continually try to assign people to a "rightist"/"leftist" paradigm.)
LGF will become impotent without the left!
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solomonpanting Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:08:23pm |
re: #55 Charles
Checking out a different layout -- main content on the left, two sidebars on the right.
I just logged on and thought this might be the British style of driving on the right. The original layout places the ads away from LGF content and is easier on the eyes. Just my too sense.
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eon Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:08:51pm |
re: #52 sattv4u2
There has to be a new law passed. After a someone gets elected to the senate or house, their spouses and kids can NOT be hired by a company that is regulated or overseen by gov't. So many times the "senators" hands are clean, but we find out that VOILA,, his wife was named to the board of Widget Co. a month after the senator was sworn in
There are already just such conflict of interest laws applied to the relatives of government employees. Which the Congress passed, and as usual carefully exempted themselves from.
But even if they weren't immune, the majority of corporations today have so many subsidiaries, interlocking directorships, etc., that it is all too easy to "hide" such relationships behind a bureaucracy.
Slightly OT; the new, Obama-appointed head of GM is the former head of AT&T. He claims he knows "absolutely nothing" about making cars, but that he intends to "improve" GM just the way he "improved" his former company, with particular emphasis on adopting procedures he "innovated" at Yahoo!.
My guess is, inside of a year, any complaint anyone has with a GM car, or any request for warranty service, will have to submitted by email. And the only response will be "You need to upgrade your system".
cheers
eon
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snowcrash Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:08:52pm |
re: #77 Jimmah
I do like your music links! Have this on my iPod.
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albusteve Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:09:18pm |
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Syrah Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:09:41pm |
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rightymouse Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:09:42pm |
re: #55 Charles
Checking out a different layout -- main content on the left, two sidebars on the right.
At least I know now that I wasn't losing my mind. lol!
Ummm...if you're taking votes, the previous format is visually nicer.
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Kragar Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:09:55pm |
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DEZes Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:10:05pm |
I feel like I am leaning left.
Socialized medicine, No more war....
Someone help me.
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brookly red Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:11:10pm |
re: #101 DEZes
I feel like I am leaning left.
Socialized medicine, No more war....
Someone help me.
What the fuck is wrong with you? :)
does that help?
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wrenchwench Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:11:29pm |
re: #55 Charles
Checking out a different layout -- main content on the left, two sidebars on the right.
I could get used to that.
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albusteve Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:11:41pm |
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Shug Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:11:48pm |
Now I know why Pelosi blinks so much. Her world view is tilted left
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Kragar Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:11:52pm |
On a real note, as the page scrolls down, it seem like there is excessive dead space on the right side one you get past the tools bars. It looked better balanced.
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Dianna Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:11:56pm |
Since this is a music thread, I have to share this: Don't Blame Me!
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eon Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:12:13pm |
re: #57 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Will they be putting up cyclone fence at the "new" city limits when they're done?
//////sarc (I hope)
/The One's "brilliant" plans are starting to sound uncomfortably like some kind of neo-Luddite "environmentalist" wet dream.
cheers
eon
| 114 |
callahan23 Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:12:17pm |
re: #63 HoosierHoops
Happy Birthday to ya, happy Biirthday
Congratulation HoosierHoops to your first Lizard birthday.
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Aye Pod Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:12:40pm |
re: #93 snowcrash
I do like your music links! Have this on my iPod.
Cheers! Did you know that Edwyn Collins was the frontman for 80's group 'Orange Juice'? (This one sounds a lot better if you click on 'HQ'):
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Kragar Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:12:55pm |
re: #113 eon
Will they be putting up cyclone fence at the "new" city limits when they're done?
//////sarc (I hope)
/The One's "brilliant" plans are starting to sound uncomfortably like some kind of neo-Luddite "environmentalist" wet dream.
cheers
eon
What if you you dont want to move?
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DEZes Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:12:59pm |
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avanti Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:13:27pm |
re: #54 Alaska Kim
I think it's crazy.
Be interesting to see if CBS fires Letterman.
I doubt it, Palin just escalated the insult game that's going back and forth. She she just said:
"It would be wise to keep Willow away from David Letterman."
Asked on Friday if that comment was suggesting that Letterman could "not be trusted around a 14-year-old", Palin replied: "Take it the way you want to take it. It's from the heart."
Letterman made a tasteless joke, but accusations like that are over the top too, no sign that Letterman is a pedophile IMHO.
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snowcrash Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:14:15pm |
re: #115 Jimmah
Knew that. Also think he had a stroke? as a really young man.
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turn Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:14:17pm |
re: #111 Dianna
Since this is a music thread, I have to share this: Don't Blame Me!
It would be so funny to sneak up on him and strum those strings really loud. Those darn cats are curious creatures.
| 125 |
Sharmuta Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:14:54pm |
re: #121 Syrah
[Link: campbellsailing.com...]
Well- this new format might give us room for a plank for trolls to walk.
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doppelganglander Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:14:59pm |
re: #57 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
It's like an episode of "Life After People." Interesting idea, though.
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albusteve Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:15:13pm |
re: #116 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
What if you you dont want to move?
tough titty...eminent domain...
the Board giveth, the Board taketh away
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IslandLibertarian Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:16:15pm |
The new layout is cool in that the comments don't get cut off, I only have to scroll to see the side bar ads.
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albusteve Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:16:28pm |
re: #120 avanti
I doubt it, Palin just escalated the insult game that's going back and forth. She she just said:
"It would be wise to keep Willow away from David Letterman."
Asked on Friday if that comment was suggesting that Letterman could "not be trusted around a 14-year-old", Palin replied: "Take it the way you want to take it. It's from the heart."
Letterman made a tasteless joke, but accusations like that are over the top too, no sign that Letterman is a pedophile IMHO.
you know him pesonally?...is there a ped poll?
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eon Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:16:41pm |
re: #116 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
What if you you don't want to move?
Who said your opinion would make a difference?
It's For Your Own Good (As Defined By Those Wiser Than You).
////
/I'd say more, but I've never been deleted, and what I'm thinking right now would be.
cheers
eon
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turn Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:16:57pm |
re: #120 avanti
She's pissed and I can't fault her for saying that. Letterman couldn't even find the decency to offer a genuine apology, a true liberal.
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Syrah Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:17:08pm |
re: #125 Sharmuta
Well- this new format might give us room for a plank for trolls to walk.
Now that you put it that way. . .
I think this will do very nicely.
We can let the trolls feed the fishes.
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Lynn B. Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:17:18pm |
re: #120 avanti
I doubt it, Palin just escalated the insult game that's going back and forth. She she just said:
"It would be wise to keep Willow away from David Letterman."
Asked on Friday if that comment was suggesting that Letterman could "not be trusted around a 14-year-old", Palin replied: "Take it the way you want to take it. It's from the heart."
Letterman made a tasteless joke, but accusations like that are over the top too, no sign that Letterman is a pedophile IMHO.
She didn't say he was. She was just giving him a taste of his own medicine. Well deserved, IMO.
She also said "wise to keep Willow away from David Letterman" not the other way around. I think you could just as easily understand her to be saying that Willow might try to rip his face off given the opportunity. Understandable.
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wrenchwench Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:17:21pm |
Bonamassa's place in my CD player has been usurped. By the Jellydots.
1. Bicycle (Music starts at 4:00)By Doug Snyder
Riding My Bicycle
So Smooth…
When I was nine years old
I had my bicycle
Now that I'm thirty one
I think it's just as fun
So fun...Before I got my Guitar
Before I had my first car
I had my training wheels
A bicycle made of steel
So real ...It's a beautiful day
for a ride!
You know you
wanna come along!
its a beautiful day outside
the air will do you goodRiding My Bicycle
So Smooth…
I wish that I could be
Bicycling on the sea
I'd have a paddleboat
My Bicycle would float
And float...I wish that I could fly
Bicycles in the sky
My legs are getting strong
Bicycles all day long
So long...It's a beautiful day
for a ride!
You know you
wanna come along!
its a beautiful day outside
the air will do you goodRiding My Bicycle
So Smooth…
So Long!
(His guitar is out of tune, so go listen to it at the link above, or buy it at CD Baby.)
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Aye Pod Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:17:30pm |
re: #122 snowcrash
Knew that. Also think he had a stroke? as a really young man.
I think his stroke was just a few years ago, after his hit with "Girl Like you". He was badly affected at first but is back performing again now.
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brookly red Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:18:01pm |
re: #113 eon
Will they be putting up cyclone fence at the "new" city limits when they're done?
//////sarc (I hope)
/The One's "brilliant" plans are starting to sound uncomfortably like some kind of neo-Luddite "environmentalist" wet dream.
cheers
eon
/well we could just import 20 million or so folks willing to do the voting that Americans won't do... that should fill the void, no?
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DEZes Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:18:22pm |
re: #133 Syrah
Now that you put it that way. . .
I think this will do very nicely.
We can let the trolls feed the fishes.
Thats gonna make the sea kitties sick.
| 140 |
Sharmuta Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:18:55pm |
Since this is a music thread, here is some music news.
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avanti Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:18:57pm |
re: #129 albusteve
you know him pesonally?...is there a ped poll?
No I don't, and I guess I can't defend him from that charge, but I've seen no indication that he likes little girls that way.
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doppelganglander Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:19:11pm |
re: #116 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
What if you you dont want to move?
I can't imagine a lot of people enjoy living in the only occupied house on the block. They may be eager to move, but haven't done anything about it because they know they can't sell the house.
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IslandLibertarian Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:19:33pm |
re: #120 avanti
I doubt it, Palin just escalated the insult game that's going back and forth. She she just said:
"It would be wise to keep Willow away from David Letterman."
Asked on Friday if that comment was suggesting that Letterman could "not be trusted around a 14-year-old", Palin replied: "Take it the way you want to take it. It's from the heart."
Letterman made a tasteless joke, but accusations like that are over the top too, no sign that Letterman is a pedophile IMHO.
You got a sister, mother, girlfriend, female cousin? Are you a gentleman?
Take that any way you want.
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Bobblehead Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:19:48pm |
re: #23 yochanan
now if allison could sing a little louder i could not hear her at all.
The beautiful Alison Krauss and Brad Paisley:
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albusteve Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:20:23pm |
re: #142 doppelganglander
I can't imagine a lot of people enjoy living in the only occupied house on the block. They may be eager to move, but haven't done anything about it because they know they can't sell the house.
think of the excellent field of fire when they doze up the neighborhood
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doppelganglander Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:21:01pm |
re: #146 albusteve
think of the excellent field of fire when they doze up the neighborhood
Maybe they could schedule it to coincide with the next local sports championship.
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Syrah Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:21:39pm |
If this becomes the new format, it would be nice to have something set it off from the Lizard Spy feature.
When it was just Spy that was left justified, I could flash between all of the various screens that I would have up and be able to tell at a glance what I was looking at.
With both now left justified, it will take more time to tell one from the other.
| 151 |
turn Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:21:45pm |
Finally time to go walk the lab along the American, take care all - and hoops Happy Birthday.
| 153 |
Syrah Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:23:02pm |
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brookly red Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:23:08pm |
re: #120 avanti
I doubt it, Palin just escalated the insult game that's going back and forth. She she just said:
"It would be wise to keep Willow away from David Letterman."
Asked on Friday if that comment was suggesting that Letterman could "not be trusted around a 14-year-old", Palin replied: "Take it the way you want to take it. It's from the heart."
Letterman made a tasteless joke, but accusations like that are over the top too, no sign that Letterman is a pedophile IMHO.
Letterman is not the victim here, sorry but that spin is not going to happen.
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Aye Pod Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:23:17pm |
I just refreshed a page and - OMG. It's all true. LGF has lurched to the left.
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Sharmuta Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:23:34pm |
I never realized how attached I was to the spy until this moment.
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nikis-knight Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:23:42pm |
I don't think Letterman is a pedophile; he is, like the rest of the media, for the time being a presidophile, though.
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snowcrash Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:23:54pm |
re: #136 Jimmah
Are you a 40 something year old? Please ignore if it is too personal, just for musical era reference.
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freetoken Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:24:21pm |
re: #150 Syrah
Perhaps if the Spy window used dark grey and not white for a background?
I wonder too if the new layout is meant to be more friendly to smaller screens... say an iPhone?
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Aye Pod Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:24:53pm |
re: #155 Jimmah
Hold on - it seems to have moved back to the centre ground again.
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albusteve Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:25:43pm |
re: #158 nikis-knight
I don't think Letterman is a pedophile; he is, like the rest of the media, for the time being a presidophile, though.
he is whatever he is...defending him obliquely with some convoluted moral relevance is pretty small imo...liberals generally suck
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Aye Pod Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:25:53pm |
re: #159 snowcrash
Are you a 40 something year old? Please ignore if it is too personal, just for musical era reference.
Verging on 40 something yes.
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Kragar Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:26:32pm |
re: #161 freetoken
Perhaps if the Spy window used dark grey and not white for a background?
I wonder too if the new layout is meant to be more friendly to smaller screens... say an iPhone?
I think we should make the blog side scroll, screw this up and down crap.
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avanti Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:26:43pm |
re: #132 turn
She's pissed and I can't fault her for saying that. Letterman couldn't even find the decency to offer a genuine apology, a true liberal.
Fair enough, I just think if she goes too far she'll lose some of support she got for the lame ass joke, but that's just me. No need for her to get down in the gutter with Dave.
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jvic Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:26:55pm |
OT: Intrade has Ahmadinejad surging and his opponent falling sharply. Ahhmadinejad's chances are currently at 68%; Moussavi's at 40%. (Obviously there's a big bid-ask spread.)
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albusteve Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:27:07pm |
re: #164 Sharmuta
Center stage is where it's at.
I'm generally uncomfortable with changes once I'm used to things
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debutaunt Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:27:29pm |
re: #44 MandyManners
I'm taking a wee break from dinner preparations. I'm making radiatore baked in tomato sauce with lotsa' garlic and basil, a huge romaine salad, crusty garlic bread and orange sherbet with dark chocolate shavings.
You do realize that the kid will never leave home.
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albusteve Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:28:09pm |
re: #169 avanti
Fair enough, I just think if she goes too far she'll lose some of support she got for the lame ass joke, but that's just me. No need for her to get down in the gutter with Dave.
you are all about support via numbers and polls...principle escapes you
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DEZes Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:28:31pm |
re: #172 debutaunt
You do realize that the kid will never leave home.
If she cooks like that every night, I would never move out.
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Kragar Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:29:15pm |
re: #173 buzzsawmonkey
NOPE. Crush em and bus the populace to their new federally provided housing where its easier to keep an eye on them.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:29:38pm |
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freetoken Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:30:06pm |
re: #168 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I think we should make the blog side scroll, screw this up and down crap.
If we went to vertical writing (ala Japan, China)... maybe that would work.
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DEZes Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:30:08pm |
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DEZes Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:30:32pm |
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avanti Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:30:46pm |
This ties into the abortion debate. This gal blogged that she was carrying a terminally ill fetus to term, but it turned out to be a
Lots of good folks were deceived.
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callahan23 Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:32:20pm |
re: #180 DEZes
That makes two of us. ;)
Three! Except there is this immigration stuff to be solved beforehand.
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nikis-knight Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:33:22pm |
re: #183 avanti
There was an avante-guarde artist at some university that claimed something similar awhile back, iirc.
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DEZes Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:33:50pm |
re: #185 callahan23
Three! Except there is this immigration stuff to be solved beforehand.
All in due time. ;}
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doppelganglander Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:34:01pm |
re: #173 buzzsawmonkey
Those are all excellent ideas, but it seems the problem is Flint doesn't even have enough people to attempt rehabbing the neighborhoods. Maybe Michael Moore could buy up the empty homes, repair them, and give them to people. After all, he thinks GM should stop making cars but continue to pay the workers.
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Kragar Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:34:03pm |
re: #187 nikis-knight
There was an avante-guarde artist at some university that claimed something similar awhile back, iirc.
The "miscarriage as art" psycho?
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:34:14pm |
Son of Accused Holocaust Museum Shooter Issues Statement Concerning His Father
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Aye Pod Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:35:25pm |
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IslandLibertarian Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:35:50pm |
re: #169 avanti
Fair enough, I just think if she goes too far she'll lose some of support she got for the lame ass joke, but that's just me. No need for her to get down in the gutter with Dave.
Saying she'd keep her daughter away from a 62 year old man that compared her mother to a "slutty" flight attendant, joked about the possibility of her OR her older sister being sexually assaulted in a public venue, saying this in front of MILLIONS, and then sidesteps the issue with lame excuses, a 62 year old man who is no role model for anyone but low class comedians....Yeah, I'd keep my children away from him too.
/ he had bastard children....any jokes about that?
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:36:23pm |
Former President George H.W. Bush defended Judge Sonia Sotomayor on Friday, saying it is “not right” to call President Barack Obama’s Supreme Court nominee a “racist.”“She was called by somebody a racist once. That’s not right. I mean, that’s not fair,” Bush said in an interview with CNN. “It doesn’t help the process. You're out there name-calling. So let them decide who they want to vote for and get on with it.”
"I don't know her that well, but I think she's had a distinguished record on the bench and she should be entitled to fair hearings,” he said.
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callahan23 Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:36:29pm |
re: #188 DEZes
All in due time. ;}
So, before I arrive at Mandys place you and Reine are gonna be 'well fed'?
;-)
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Aye Pod Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:36:39pm |
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freetoken Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:38:06pm |
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DEZes Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:38:06pm |
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callahan23 Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:39:09pm |
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solomonpanting Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:39:45pm |
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rightymouse Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:39:50pm |
re: #169 avanti
Fair enough, I just think if she goes too far she'll lose some of support she got for the lame ass joke, but that's just me. No need for her to get down in the gutter with Dave.
Eh...be honest. Lefties hate it when one of their own gets called on the carpet for being vile.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:40:14pm |
re: #197 Jimmah
Something like that. Remember a few years agoa few people were busted hanging nooses on their doors and vandalizing their own property with swastikas and claiming hate crimes were committed against them. I guess some people just need the attention.
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IslandLibertarian Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:41:02pm |
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eon Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:41:08pm |
re: #146 albusteve
think of the excellent field of fire when they doze up the neighborhood
Oddly enough, for the last thirty years or so the main demolition/bulldozing jobs in major cities have been the removal of the public-housing tracts that were built in the Sixties and early Seventies- Cabrini Green, in The One's home turf, comes to mind.
The "Projects", as they were inevitably called, were born of equal parts socialist hubris ("we know how people should live") and modernist theory untainted by reality (Le Corbusier's La Ville Radiuse, an English translation of which is about a foot from my right hand right now). As Tom Wolfe pointed out in From Bauhaus to Our House, such "public housing" is "non-bourgeois within an inch of its life", and thus "philosophically pure" in the minds of "progressives".
The fact that such "Projects" turned out to be poorly-designed, shoddily- built, crime-ridden rats-warrens where no reasonable, sensible person (no matter how poor) would voluntarily live, is something that I strongly suspect galls The One no end. Not because of the problems, but because the "poor", and everyone else, by refusing to live in same are Not Doing What Is In Their Best Interest As Defined By Their Betters. And That's Just Wrong.
So the idea of bulldozing neighborhoods and stacking the refugees from same up twenty stories high in "environmentally and socially responsible" mass housing would have an irresistible appeal to someone with the typical progressive mindset. After all, as Wolfe wrote, the typical "progressive", of Yale/Harvard/Greenwich Village extraction, sees himself as "The Common Man", and can't understand why no one else realizes just how absolutely, unchallengeably f**king brilliant he truly is.
Yes, I am wondering... and concerned about... just how far our One, Perfect Leader intends to take this. And I live in a near-city center area in a relatively small town, already.
/rant mode off.
cheers
eon
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albusteve Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:41:14pm |
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DEZes Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:41:47pm |
re: #203 solomonpanting
Yes. It's made of quarter sawn white oak.
Sweet, I love oak.
What do you plan on finishing with?
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:41:49pm |
Those Tea Parties went well.....
Humane Society, ASPCA condemn Schwarzenegger plan to shorten animal shelter hold requirements
Last week, we learned that California's animal shelter system is among the programs facing cutbacks as a result of the state's budget crisis. If a proposal from Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger is approved, strays in California's shelters could face euthanization in as few as three days, down from the six-day minimum hold generally applied in the state's shelters.
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solomonpanting Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:41:49pm |
re: #202 callahan23
Thank you. It's a music cabinet for a dear client.
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:42:04pm |
re: #44 MandyManners
I'm taking a wee break from dinner preparations. I'm making radiatore baked in tomato sauce with lotsa' garlic and basil, a huge romaine salad, crusty garlic bread and orange sherbet with dark chocolate shavings.
Basil Herring?
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Aye Pod Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:42:24pm |
re: #201 Bobblehead
Didn't that used to be George Bush's patriot act eye or something?
/propoganda can be so confusing
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:42:54pm |
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Bobblehead Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:43:23pm |
re: #214 Jimmah
Didn't that used to be George Bush's patriot act eye or something?
/propoganda can be so confusing
Who knows. More appropriate for Obama I think.
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albusteve Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:43:53pm |
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callahan23 Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:43:53pm |
re: #212 solomonpanting
Thank you. It's a music cabinet for a dear client.
You can tell that a lot of effort and love for the work and material went into that cabinet.
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doppelganglander Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:43:57pm |
re: #206 buzzsawmonkey
The jobs are definitely the key. Your idea of attracting artists is interesting - a really good marketing campaign could convince a few hipsters that Flint is the place to be. I don't know if that would translate into attracting families though, and they're really the key to sustaining the population.
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solomonpanting Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:44:15pm |
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rightymouse Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:44:24pm |
Yayyyyyyyyyy! Back to normal. My head stopped tilting. :)
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IslandLibertarian Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:44:52pm |
re: #211 Killgore Trout
Those Tea Parties went well.....
Humane Society, ASPCA condemn Schwarzenegger plan to shorten animal shelter hold requirements
Well, I'm convinced. Tax the shit out of me. It's for the kids....and the puppies...and the kitties...just stop tugging at my heartstrings for gawds sake!
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albusteve Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:45:26pm |
re: #222 yochanan
is that oak?
yes...I never liked the finishing step...
draw it, make it and hand it off to the next guy
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:45:26pm |
Hooray for boobies!
Nude Mona Lisa-Like Painting Found
The newly revealed painting, hidden for almost a century within the wood wall of a private library, shows a portrait of a half-naked woman with clear links to the famous (and clothed) Mona Lisa.[...]
The lady in the portrait does not exactly resemble the original Mona Lisa, but there is little doubt it has parallels with the painting hanging at the Louvre museum in Paris.
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jvic Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:46:02pm |
re: #173 buzzsawmonkey
Wouldn't it make sense, if these houses are abandoned, to have them etc
You dreamer, you! ;-)
IMHO, for a major program to get through Congress, a critical preponderance of special interests is required. You have to hope that the special-interest part does not outweigh the overall national interest, but there is no guarantee. Pro or con, the special interests don't care; the national interest is just a pretext to them.
At first glance, your proposals are in the overall national interest, but I can't think of entrenched interests that they would help and I can think of some that they would hurt. (And there's that whole market-economy thing...)
I'll be very pleasantly very surprised if your proposals come to pass, but I'll upding you for well-intentioned ingenuity.
Find a formulation that incorporates profits and special-interest gimmes and you might have something.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:46:18pm |
re: #223 IslandLibertarian
Heh. Why does John Galt hate puppies?
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Aye Pod Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:46:21pm |
re: #211 Killgore Trout
Damn that reminds me - I meant to phone the RSPCA about an injured pigeon outside the house. Poor thing's probably had it now.
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jorline Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:47:01pm |
re: #191 Killgore Trout
A heart felt apology from a son who had to endure his father's warped thought process and demons.
Thanks KT
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IslandLibertarian Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:47:26pm |
re: #227 Killgore Trout
Heh. Why does John Galt hate puppies?
I don't know. Some find them delicious...........
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solomonpanting Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:47:33pm |
re: #207 IslandLibertarian
Got any computer armoires?
Not at this time, but that could be arranged.
;P
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wrenchwench Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:47:56pm |
re: #206 buzzsawmonkey
The problem is that they want to have everybody living in dense cities.
Local politicians believe the city must contract by as much as 40 per cent, concentrating the dwindling population and local services into a more viable area.
You know, sustainable.
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nikis-knight Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:48:31pm |
re: #211 Killgore Trout
So let people who care about strays donate or open shelters.
The governator wants to call people's bluff and cut tug-at-the-heartstrings-services. I'd let them; save the taxing & borrowing until they fire some beaurocrats, cut their pensions, whatever, slash legislative perks, and get spending on par with revenue.
If they want to make puppies pay for their social programs, fine. I don't think tax protesters who would like to stay in buisiness in California a bit longer are the ones to blame here, Killgore, personal bugaboo of you or not.
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IslandLibertarian Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:48:56pm |
re: #232 solomonpanting
Not at this time, but that could be arranged.
;P
If I provide drawings can I get a quote?
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albusteve Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:50:07pm |
re: #235 IslandLibertarian
If I provide drawings can I get a quote?
let sol draw it up...tell him what you want and let him do the rest...imo
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debutaunt Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:50:42pm |
re: #193 IslandLibertarian
Saying she'd keep her daughter away from a 62 year old man that compared her mother to a "slutty" flight attendant, joked about the possibility of her OR her older sister being sexually assaulted in a public venue, saying this in front of MILLIONS, and then sidesteps the issue with lame excuses, a 62 year old man who is no role model for anyone but low class comedians....Yeah, I'd keep my children away from him too.
/ he had bastard children....any jokes about that?
Thanks for the perspective.
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Aye Pod Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:52:01pm |
re: #228 Jimmah
I just checked wikipedia for the contact number for the SSPCA (Scottish Society For The Prevention of Cruelty to Animals) and this is what I found:
The Scottish Society for Prevention of Cruelty to Animals is a charity tae forder ainimal weelfare. It wis foondit in 1839 wi the the ettle o betterin the weelfare o cairt-horse. It haes 13 ainimal weelfare centres that helps owre 15,000 ainimals ilka year. The associe is kent internaitionaly for its traitment o seabirds catched in ile sleeks
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nyc redneck Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:52:12pm |
re: #120 avanti
I doubt it, Palin just escalated the insult game that's going back and forth. She she just said:
"It would be wise to keep Willow away from David Letterman."
Asked on Friday if that comment was suggesting that Letterman could "not be trusted around a 14-year-old", Palin replied: "Take it the way you want to take it. It's from the heart."
Letterman made a tasteless joke, but accusations like that are over the top too, no sign that Letterman is a pedophile IMHO.
i'm not so sure she is implying he is a pedophile.
but w/ such a crude nasty bizarre vulgar statement coming out of his perverse joke-hole, you can see how a mother might not want their 14 yr. old child around the horrid old bastard. period.
he is not right in the head.
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doppelganglander Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:53:33pm |
re: #233 wrenchwench
The problem is that they want to have everybody living in dense cities.
You know, sustainable.
I hate that word too, but I didn't see anything about the remaining parts of the city being high-density. I think they make a good point about the cost of things like garbage pick-up and street repairs. Even if all of buzzsawmonkey's excellent ideas could be implemented, I'm not sure a city built for a quarter of a million, now housing 110,000, can ever be brought back to its former glory. Selective pruning in areas with few or no occupied homes might work.
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Charles Johnson Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:53:37pm |
Yes -- the LGF Spy now shows full comments with all formatting, instead of an excerpt.
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solomonpanting Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:53:38pm |
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eon Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:54:20pm |
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freetoken Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:54:58pm |
re: #234 nikis-knight
It's such a waste, killing all those puppies and kittens... and then tossing the bodies out.
It's protein!
Why put a 48 hour limit on the holding pen... and then harvest them!
Dogs-as-food is part of the culture in some Asian locales.
By taking the bodies, grinding them up, and making sausages... the state could then use the meat in the school-lunch programs, thereby saving even more $$$!
/That's the problem with today's socialist nanny-state - no creativity!
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IslandLibertarian Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:55:25pm |
re: #242 nyc redneck
Letterman belongs to the Liberal Elite.
Untouchable, above the unwashed masses.
Their image is the very target of their own hatred.
Hypocrites!
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:55:47pm |
re: #234 nikis-knight
I'm sure the captains of industry will chip in to save the puppies.
Q: I can haz taxes?
A: No. You die now!
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Aye Pod Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:57:16pm |
re: #240 Jimmah
I was about to report that as a vandalised page when I realised it's not the real wikipedia, but a 'scotified' wiki. Duh.
[Link: sco.wikipedia.org...]
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wrenchwench Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:57:27pm |
re: #245 Charles
Yes -- the LGF Spy now shows full comments with all formatting, instead of an excerpt.
Is it possible to have a longer page at the Spy? Or a variable length? I did have a much longer page one time, and I liked it.
/give 'em ice cream, then they want sprinkles!
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nikis-knight Fri, Jun 12, 2009 3:59:46pm |
re: #250 Killgore Trout
I'm sure the captains of industry will chip in to save the puppies.
Q: I can haz taxes?
A: No. You die now!
And? They didn't buy the dogs, did they?
Screw it. Don't we have compassionate liberal celebrities living in CA? Let them care about the puppies. So long as they are disposed of in a sanitary manner, what public interest is there, anyway? If you want to be nice to dogs, do with with your own money.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:00:43pm |
re: #254 nikis-knight
I haven't been following the story. What other stuff is going to get cut?
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IslandLibertarian Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:00:53pm |
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solomonpanting Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:00:54pm |
re: #253 buzzsawmonkey
Totally destroying a formerly-viable city to further some academic's moronic back to nature dreams is nuts
But, of course, there will be a need to provide an ivory tower.
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callahan23 Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:02:18pm |
re: #245 Charles
Yes -- the LGF Spy now shows full comments with all formatting, instead of an excerpt.
Thank you Charles.
I have come to expect the excellent design and features I enjoy here at LGF also with other sites I visit.
I am constantly being disappointed.
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doppelganglander Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:03:17pm |
re: #253 buzzsawmonkey
So recombine some of the lots, and let people choose which house they want to keep, and turn the rest of the land into a semi-rural area of small farms. You know, a few greenhouses and some intensive small farming.
The Israelis know how to do it; get the technology that built the Gaza greenhouses the Palis destroyed working to create a veritable green belt of year-round produce and flower cultivation.
Totally destroying a formerly-viable city to further some academic's moronic back to nature dreams is nuts.
I agree, and I think what you describe is closer to what they have in mind, although they may be thinking of parks instead of farms. In fact, I really like the idea of farms and greenhouses. They could have quite a little business going with things like heirloom tomatoes. Maybe keep some goats and make handcrafted cheeses.
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DEZes Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:03:46pm |
re: #259 callahan23
Thank you Charles.
I have come to expect the excellent design and features I enjoy here at LGF also with other sites I visit.
I am constantly being disappointed.
Charles certainly thinks outside the box.
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wrenchwench Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:03:57pm |
re: #259 callahan23
Thank you Charles.
I have come to expect the excellent design and features I enjoy here at LGF also with other sites I visit.
I am constantly being disappointed.
I've solved that problem.
I don't go anywhere else.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:04:05pm |
It'll be interesting to see the political fallout....
California HIV/AIDS service providers blast proposed budget cuts
If voters blame Arnold they could just end up voting in a Democrat.
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brookly red Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:05:15pm |
re: #263 Killgore Trout
It'll be interesting to see the political fallout....
If voters blame Arnold they could just end up voting in a Democrat.
and the difference would be?
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DEZes Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:05:36pm |
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doppelganglander Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:06:31pm |
re: #263 Killgore Trout
It'll be interesting to see the political fallout....
California HIV/AIDS service providers blast proposed budget cuts
If voters blame Arnold they could just end up voting in a Democrat.
My theory is that they're announcing cuts to the most sacred of sacred cows in the hope that the public will clamor for more taxes to save the puppies and the AIDS patients. I don't see anyone proposing that legislators go part-time and take salary cuts, or that university diversity offices shed some of their employees.
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KingKenrod Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:06:37pm |
51% support cutting everyone's taxes to stimulate the economy:
[Link: www.rasmussenreports.com...]
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:06:49pm |
re: #263 Killgore Trout
It'll be interesting to see the political fallout....
California HIV/AIDS service providers blast proposed budget cuts
If voters blame Arnold they could just end up voting in a Democrat.
Every fricking special interest group is about to be whining about the budget cuts in Ca. I'll bet any Lizard could fix the budget with a big red pen.
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lobo91 Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:07:09pm |
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:07:41pm |
re: #264 brookly red
Yeah, I guess it really doesn't make a difference. It's not like any good Republicans have ever come out of California anyways. Let the whole state go solid blue forever.
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jorline Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:08:05pm |
Hey Hoopster, you out there?
I hear it's your birthday!
May you have three more NBA playoff games.
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callahan23 Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:08:33pm |
re: #262 wrenchwench
I've solved that problem.
I don't go anywhere else.
That's quite a 'solitary' solution. ;-)
I compare the features we are enjoying here also with websites of news publications and they mostly fail the test of ease of use of feedback functions for example.
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lobo91 Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:08:46pm |
re: #267 KingKenrod
51% support cutting everyone's taxes to stimulate the economy:
[Link: www.rasmussenreports.com...]
Unfortunately, about 60% of those whose votes on the subject actually count (members of Congress) don't agree.
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brookly red Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:08:51pm |
re: #266 doppelganglander
My theory is that they're announcing cuts to the most sacred of sacred cows in the hope that the public will clamor for more taxes to save the puppies and the AIDS patients. I don't see anyone proposing that legislators go part-time and take salary cuts, or that university diversity offices shed some of their employees.
yes, but they have run out of other people to tax, a minor detail.
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Gus Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:08:58pm |
Let's see. I understand that Arnold isn't perfect by any means but he has vetoed many a Democrat bills. Such as:
To the Members of the California State Senate:
Schwarzenegger vetoes California DREAM Act
I am returning Senate Bill 1 without my signature.
At a time when segments of California public higher education, the University of California and the California State University, are raising fees on all students attending college in order to maintain the quality of education provided, it would not be prudent to place additional strain on the General Fund to accord the new benefit of providing state subsidized financial aid to students without lawful immigration status. Under existing law, undocumented students, who meet the required criteria, already qualify for the lower in-state tuition rate while attending California public colleges and universities.
Therefore, I cannot sign this bill.
Sincerely,
Arnold Schwarzenegger
I doubt a Democratic governor would have vetoed that bill.
I'll look for other examples.
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Aye Pod Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:09:16pm |
Some dude from Chile has just uploaded a bunch of previously unheard Cocteau Twins live sessions -
1) Rilkean Heart
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Digital Display Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:09:28pm |
re: #271 jorline
Hey Hoopster, you out there?
I hear it's your birthday!
[Video]May you have three more NBA playoff games.
Yea Bro! I'm here...It's a birthday party.And this time...It's all my fault!
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:09:39pm |
re: #266 doppelganglander
Arnold was threatening to start releasing prisoners too. He might do it. I don't think he has anything to gain by making threats at this point. There's nothing that can be done, is there?
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Gus Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:10:01pm |
Another veto from Arnold that wouldn't have been vetoed by a Democrat:
Governor Schwarzenegger Vetoes Harvey Milk Bill
California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger has vetoed a bill that would have honored Harvey Milk's birthday as a statewide "day of significance," reports the Associated Press. In a statement on Tuesday, Schwarzenegger defended his decision by saying that the icon's "contributions should continue to be recognized at the local level."
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jorline Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:10:26pm |
re: #277 HoosierHoops
Yea Bro! I'm here...It's a birthday party.And this time...It's all my fault!
Have fun with Mrs. Hoopster tonight and don't drive.
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Racer X Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:10:29pm |
re: #263 Killgore Trout
It'll be interesting to see the political fallout....
California HIV/AIDS service providers blast proposed budget cuts
If voters blame Arnold they could just end up voting in a Democrat.
Why would they blame Arnold? It has always been Democrats spending money like drunken sailors. Now is the time to pay the bill.
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Gus Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:12:08pm |
Anyway, here's a search of "schwarzenegger vetoes" on Google.
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DEZes Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:12:32pm |
re: #277 HoosierHoops
Yea Bro! I'm here...It's a birthday party.And this time...It's all my fault!
A full year as a lizard, A big congrats.
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Digital Display Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:13:01pm |
re: #280 jorline
Have fun with Mrs. Hoopster tonight and don't drive.
She works tonight..Logistics shit..We fly out Monday Morning....
No dancing tonight..That suks
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albusteve Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:13:09pm |
re: #281 Racer X
Why would they blame Arnold? It has always been Democrats spending money like drunken sailors. Now is the time to pay the bill.
the Cal legislature makes the law not the gov...Arnaold barrowed like the rest of them and is now waiting for me to pick up the tab...Cal is not serious about fiscal reform...show me the beef...let the lunatics go to the poorhouse, they have no clue
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VegasRick Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:13:15pm |
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brookly red Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:13:28pm |
re: #270 Killgore Trout
Yeah, I guess it really doesn't make a difference. It's not like any good Republicans have ever come out of California anyways. Let the whole state go solid blue forever.
well as a good California R once said, "let them pull themselves up by their bootstraps" ... or flip-flops what ever.
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doppelganglander Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:14:45pm |
re: #278 Killgore Trout
Arnold was threatening to start releasing prisoners too. He might do it. I don't think he has anything to gain by making threats at this point. There's nothing that can be done, is there?
Nothing that can be done to balance the budget? There's plenty that can be done, but there's no political will to do it. IIRC, Arnold can't run again anyway. The only explanation I can think of is that he is desperate to be liked by his fellow liberals and is willing to sell the state down the river to do it.
Oh, and "no good Republicans have ever come out of California?" The Reagan fans here will beg to differ.
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solomonpanting Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:15:07pm |
re: #256 IslandLibertarian
I sent you an email with my contact info.
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brookly red Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:15:18pm |
re: #278 Killgore Trout
Arnold was threatening to start releasing prisoners too. He might do it. I don't think he has anything to gain by making threats at this point. There's nothing that can be done, is there?
oh please...
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jorline Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:15:50pm |
re: #277 HoosierHoops
Yea Bro! I'm here...It's a birthday party.And this time...It's all my fault!
Hey, it's your lizard birthday...congrats!
Like me, you graduate from diapers to Big Boy pull-ups...lol
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solomonpanting Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:16:08pm |
re: #258 buzzsawmonkey
I'm sorry, but it will have to be an imitation-ivory tower, since elephants are an endangered species.
That's what the pundits have been saying since the last election.
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DEZes Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:17:28pm |
re: #291 jorline
Hey, it's your lizard birthday...congrats!
Like me, you graduate from diapers to Big Boy pull-ups...lol
Lizards in diapers, now thats a visual.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:17:52pm |
re: #282 Gus 802
Schwarzenegger vetoes bill forbidding drivers to hold pets
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger vetoed legislation Saturday that would have banned motorists from holding a live animal in their laps or arms.
Heh.
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Gus Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:18:20pm |
Bulldoze cities?
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Yankee Division Son Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:18:28pm |
KENNEBUNKPORT -- President George H.W. Bush celebrated his 85th birthday today by parachuting from an altitude of 10,500 feet into the churchyard of St. Ann's Episcopal Chapel in Kennebunkport. He landed at 1:44 p.m. and was greeted by his wife Barbara Bush.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:18:51pm |
re: #288 doppelganglander
Oh, and "no good Republicans have ever come out of California?" The Reagan fans here will beg to differ.
I know. My comment was sarcastic.
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VegasRick Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:19:04pm |
re: #294 Killgore Trout
Schwarzenegger vetoes bill forbidding drivers to hold pets
Heh.
Richard Gere lobbied for that.
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DEZes Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:19:31pm |
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callahan23 Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:20:02pm |
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Gus Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:20:03pm |
re: #294 Killgore Trout
Schwarzenegger vetoes bill forbidding drivers to hold pets
Heh.
The "live animal" phrase is pretty funny actually. I don't know about those laws. Like "driving while playing a musical instrument." In NJ you're not even suppose to drive and drink coffee or a soda (aka pop). Allegedly.
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mikeymom Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:20:07pm |
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hazzyday Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:20:11pm |
Right wingers -- keep the traditional web layout so i can not be distracted while i work to pay the bills.
Left wingers -- I want something new everyday so i don't have to be responsible and just have fun traveling in europe now that they like us again.
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hazzyday Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:21:28pm |
re: #301 Gus 802
The "live animal" phrase is pretty funny actually. I don't know about those laws. Like "driving while playing a musical instrument." In NJ you're not even suppose to drive and drink coffee or a soda (aka pop). Allegedly.
Kitty Flashers Unite!
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jorline Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:21:37pm |
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:21:46pm |
re: #288 doppelganglander
Nothing that can be done to balance the budget? There's plenty that can be done, but there's no political will to do it. IIRC, Arnold can't run again anyway. The only explanation I can think of is that he is desperate to be liked by his fellow liberals and is willing to sell the state down the river to do it.
Oh, and "no good Republicans have ever come out of California?" The Reagan fans here will beg to differ.
States often try to "balance" their budgets by leaving in place ALL the same services they provide, but cutting back on the number of state employees who provide them, with some cute statement like, "We must do more with less!", or "We need to figure out a smarter way to work!". And of course what happens is things slow down, the public gets angry with those pesky "state workers" who are very often working in substandard conditions with substandard equipment and supplies.
The legislators seem to FORGET that they are the ones who passed the laws and regulations and requirements that state employees are required to enforce or deliver on.
What needs to happen is a state needs to determine which services it believes are critical to provide, fund those services so that they can be provided efficiently and effectively, and DO AWAY WITH EVERYTHING ELSE.
But of course, there's a political price to pay for that.
Louisiana at one time had a driver's license office in just about every little podunk town. They would often serve maybe one or two people a week. Every time the DPS suggested that some of these offices should be shut down, you wouldn't believe the hue and cry. It took years and years before the DPS could finally shut down some of these offices.
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callahan23 Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:21:56pm |
re: #303 hazzyday
Right wingers -- keep the traditional web layout so i can not be distracted while i work to pay the bills.
Left wingers -- I want something new everyday so i don't have to be responsible and just have fun traveling in europe now that they like us again.
Don't be too sure about that.
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DEZes Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:22:09pm |
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Digital Display Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:22:20pm |
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Gus Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:22:46pm |
re: #304 hazzyday
Kitty Flashers Unite!
How about making an aquarium car? Seal the drivers compartment and fill it with fish.
Have to wear scuba gear of course.
//Sea kittens on board!
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VegasRick Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:23:18pm |
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Gus Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:23:35pm |
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DEZes Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:23:54pm |
re: #305 jorline
{DEZ}
The diapers were a stylish camo. ;)
Perfect to hide those lizard leaks.
{jorline}
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wrenchwench Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:25:13pm |
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mikeymom Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:25:17pm |
re: #310 HoosierHoops
Wasn't that a Law & Order show?
sorry -dont get that reference-having my first manhattan--maybe i need another?
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FrogMarch Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:26:00pm |
re: #31 sattv4u2
SHOCKA
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
Key health care senators have industry ties
WASHINGTON – Influential senators working to overhaul the nation's health care system have investments and family ties with some of the biggest names in the industry. The wife of Sen. Chris Dodd, the lawmaker in charge of writing the Senate's bill, sits on the boards of four health care companies
So the senators and their wives get rich while we wait in line for treatment.
Screw that.
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doppelganglander Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:26:12pm |
re: #297 Killgore Trout
I know. My comment was sarcastic.
I was hoping it was, but I never know with you.
Time to pick up the pizza, bbl.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:26:29pm |
Ahmadinejad Takes 61 Percent of Election Votes, Rival Warns of Possible Fraud
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Seems the early calls were off? Short shit is still with us.
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Gus Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:26:49pm |
I have the perfect fix for California's budget woes...
Make it a "right to work" state.
Any takers?
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albusteve Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:27:15pm |
re: #306 reine.de.tout
here in NM the DMV stuff is all contracted out privately...offices are everywhere and one never waits for too long...people love it altho we do pay a bit more...the Sec of State offices up in Mich are a nightmare of waiting, inefficiency etc...union droolers on the state dole....big difference
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Digital Display Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:27:29pm |
re: #316 mikeymom
sorry -dont get that reference-having my first manhattan--maybe i need another?
You see? I'm on vacation for the next 9 days...I was just a tad a head of you..
What may the hoopster get you mikeymom?
:)
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:29:03pm |
re: #322 albusteve
here in NM the DMV stuff is all contracted out privately...offices are everywhere and one never waits for too long...people love it altho we do pay a bit more...the Sec of State offices up in Mich are a nightmare of waiting, inefficiency etc...union droolers on the state dole....big difference
Our DMV actually works amazingly efficiently, and makes excellent use of technology. Wasn't always that way, but now there are minimal waits. Some things, like license plate renewals, are "contracted" out and a person will pay a little extra, but the service is still also available at DMV and I'm not sure many folks use the "contractors".
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wrenchwench Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:29:47pm |
re: #322 albusteve
here in NM the DMV stuff is all contracted out privately...offices are everywhere and one never waits for too long...people love it altho we do pay a bit more...the Sec of State offices up in Mich are a nightmare of waiting, inefficiency etc...union droolers on the state dole....big difference
We've also had a big problem with licenses issued to anybody, using any kind of "ID", or none, for a price. I think they've tightened up some, but I'm sure not enough.
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Kenneth Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:29:48pm |
Palestinian boy hanged by his family
Must be those Jewish settlements. Yeah, that's why the Palis do shit like this.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:29:50pm |
re: #324 reine.de.tout
I will also add that Louisiana state employees are NOT unionized, it's wonderful.
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mikeymom Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:30:24pm |
re: #323 HoosierHoops
hoops--have a great vacation! i hope the fish just jump in your boat--may i have another manhattan on rocks, two cherries, plz? oh--and im still in mourning after the game last night--sniff!
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callahan23 Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:31:20pm |
re: #312 VegasRick
So I am gonna keep it hushed, kudos to DEZes
;-)
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mikeymom Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:31:42pm |
re: #326 Kenneth
how sad--do i upding or downding that news?
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albusteve Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:31:53pm |
re: #324 reine.de.tout
Our DMV actually works amazingly efficiently, and makes excellent use of technology. Wasn't always that way, but now there are minimal waits. Some things, like license plate renewals, are "contracted" out and a person will pay a little extra, but the service is still also available at DMV and I'm not sure many folks use the "contractors".
Loozianna rocks!...state services can be efficient if they need to be
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VegasRick Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:32:18pm |
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jvic Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:33:04pm |
re: #173 buzzsawmonkey
re: #226 jvic
...IMHO, for a major program to get through Congress, a critical preponderance of special interests is required. You have to hope that the special-interest part does not outweigh the overall national interest, but there is no guarantee. Pro or con, the special interests don't care; the national interest is just a pretext to them.
...
Find a formulation that incorporates profits and special-interest gimmes and you might have something.
I once worked for a guy who believed that a certain something needed to be done in the national interest.
The problem was that there were only five or ten organizations that could do the work. Every time a program started getting off the ground, the unfunded contractors would call for a review of how things were going and get the program cancelled. In the interests of efficiency and cost-effectiveness, of course.
My boss's solution was to get a ton of make-work added to the effort so that every contractor got a cut. It made the program literally ten times more expensive than it should have been, and even then some of the contractor teams had to fight their own upper managements. He was not proud of his machinations, but he was adamant that he had taken the only way to get the essential 10% done.
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albusteve Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:33:30pm |
re: #325 wrenchwench
We've also had a big problem with licenses issued to anybody, using any kind of "ID", or none, for a price. I think they've tightened up some, but I'm sure not enough.
I've not been here long enough to know of much corruption, even tho NM is swimming in it...good point
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DEZes Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:34:02pm |
re: #330 callahan23
So I am gonna keep it hushed, kudos to DEZes
;-)
Were you and wrench fighting over some gum up thread?
///
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MJ Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:35:15pm |
Was the White House unprepared to answer question on Rev. Wright?
Q Okay. Second question: The President's former mentor and spiritual advisor, Reverend Wright, had some choice words to say about "them Jews" that are being -- that are preventing him from talking to the press; and then he later, in fairness, changed that to "Zionists," not "Jews." But I was wondering if the President was aware of these comments and if he had any reaction to it at all?
MR. GIBBS: I haven't talked to him about these comments. I think I would -- I don't have any comment on it except to refer you to the last time the President spoke about Reverend Wright in late April of 2008. I refer you to those comments.
[Link: www.whitehouse.gov...]
Bull. Gibbs is lying. Of course he asked Obama about it.
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solomonpanting Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:36:53pm |
re: #326 Kenneth
Palestinian boy hanged by his family
Must be those Jewish settlements. Yeah, that's why the Palis do shit like this.
Collaboration is viewed as a serious offence in Palestinian society. Suspects are often summarily killed.
However, police said it was unlikely that such a young boy would have been recruited as an informer.
He was probably "suspected" of collaboration, which could mean he merely acknowledged the presence of the IDF. AFAIC, it was an honor killing.
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Kenneth Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:37:13pm |
re: #331 mikeymom
upding me for posting it. If we downdinged everything in our links we don't like we'd all have minus 10,000 karms by now.
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Gus Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:37:27pm |
re: #258 buzzsawmonkey
I'm sorry, but it will have to be an imitation-ivory tower, since elephants are an endangered species.
That needs a special name. We used to call the fake "Mother of Pearl" inlays on cheap guitars "Mother of Plastic."
//Although methinks protecting elephants is a good thing.
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Kenneth Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:38:05pm |
re: #338 solomonpanting
The PA police said they doubt the boy was helping the IDF.
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freetoken Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:38:48pm |
re: #295 Gus 802
Bulldoze cities?
The concept has been discussed among the sustainability crowd for some time. Usually it is coupled with turning the razed areas into food producing plots.
Towns die, some just shrink and survive on a smaller scale. My own home town has been shrinking for decades. Years ago they razed an entire neighborhood - turned it into a park.
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callahan23 Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:39:57pm |
re: #333 VegasRick
Thats cool! howdyadoit?
I saw how to do it when I quoted a comment with such features. In there you have all those programming commands.
I then copied 'n pasted those commands into a txt file which I keep open during my LGF-time for the use in situations like these.
Or this one?
How about this ♥ ?
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jorline Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:40:09pm |
re: #314 DEZes
Perfect to hide those lizard leaks.
{jorline}
Good one...I like that...lizard leaks...lmao
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jvic Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:40:21pm |
re: #170 jvic
OT: Intrade has Ahmadinejad surging and his opponent falling sharply. Ahhmadinejad's chances are currently at 68%; Moussavi's at 40%. (Obviously there's a big bid-ask spread.)
Ahmadinedjad is now up to 84%.
re: #320 Nevergiveup
Ahmadinejad Takes 61 Percent of Election Votes, Rival Warns of Possible Fraud[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Seems the early calls were off? Short shit is still with us.
I support Israel in doing whatever it judges necessary to ensure its survival and security.
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VegasRick Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:40:55pm |
re: #341 Kenneth
The PA police said they doubt the boy was helping the IDF.
Murderous animals. Plain and simple.
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Shug Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:41:00pm |
I wish Moussavi had won.
I can spell his name without having to cut and paste it
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Gus Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:41:13pm |
re: #342 freetoken
The concept has been discussed among the sustainability crowd for some time. Usually it is coupled with turning the razed areas into food producing plots.
Towns die, some just shrink and survive on a smaller scale. My own home town has been shrinking for decades. Years ago they razed an entire neighborhood - turned it into a park.
I thought that might be the case. Sounds like something that would be promoted by the American Institute of Certified Planners. Worrisome if you ask me since now we're talking "central planning." Urban renewal projects come to mind as well as eminent domain issues.
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jorline Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:41:15pm |
Out of the kitchen and into the home kitchen...dinner needs to be prepared.
bbl
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Digital Display Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:41:32pm |
re: #328 mikeymom
hoops--have a great vacation! i hope the fish just jump in your boat--may i have another manhattan on rocks, two cherries, plz? oh--and im still in mourning after the game last night--sniff!
You are very kind.Thank you...
So check this out...For the last couple of years the big scandal has been this dude that robbed the town of Lake Tomahawk blind...Huge Scandal..He stole money from the town and bought property outside the country...
Busted! the big scandal!
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Shug Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:42:30pm |
DEZes I haven't said it, but thanks for the never ending up dings to my comments.
I think half my karma points are from you.
I need to do a better job reciprocating but I admit I am lazy on the mouse
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solomonpanting Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:43:26pm |
re: #343 songbird
Thank you.
That one was commissioned, but I can build others.
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mikeymom Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:43:54pm |
re: #351 HoosierHoops
You are very kind.Thank you...
So check this out...For the last couple of years the big scandal has been this dude that robbed the town of Lake Tomahawk blind...Huge Scandal..He stole money from the town and bought property outside the country...
Busted! the big scandal!
i dont know how some people sleep at night--sigh-
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DEZes Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:44:31pm |
re: #352 Shug
DEZes I haven't said it, but thanks for the never ending up dings to my comments.
I think half my karma points are from you.
I need to do a better job reciprocating but I admit I am lazy on the mouse
I upding you because you make me laugh, I need that some days.
Glad to see you posting again.
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Kenneth Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:45:39pm |
How Iran Could Save the Middle East
Not long after the “Mission Accomplished” phase of the Iraq War, I attended a dinner in Ramallah, the capital of the rump state of Palestine, hosted by a sophisticated and aggressively secular leader of Fatah, the main faction of the Palestine Liberation Organization. The guests were like-mindedly secular, and the conversation was amiable and reality-based, until someone raised the subject of what George W. Bush’s actual goals in the Middle East might be. The host, growing angry, accused Bush of harboring entrenched and violently pro-Shia sympathies. I said that this was implausible, for any number of reasons. Another guest, an official of the Palestinian Authority, agreed with our host. He argued that the Bush administration was secretly motivated by a desire to establish a Shia state in the Arab heartland in order to create a new Washington-Baghdad-Tehran axis. Such an axis would replace the existing Washington-Riyadh-Amman-Cairo axis, and would serve both America’s oil interests and its desire for vengeance against the radical Sunnis who attacked America on September 11, 2001.
The Arab world: suspicion, wrapped in a conspiracy, with a heart of paranoia.
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Mich-again Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:46:41pm |
Just a drive by to say Go Wings! This is going to be a classic game tonight. Gotta go get some Budweisers before the game starts. Out.
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VegasRick Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:46:51pm |
re: #344 callahan23
I saw how to do it when I quoted a comment with such features. In there you have all those programming commands.
I then copied 'n pasted those commands into a txt file which I keep open during my LGF-time for the use in situations like these.
Or this one?
How about this ♥ ?
Thanks! I got it! ♦ ♦
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Shug Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:47:38pm |
re: #355 DEZes
I took a week off from commenting. I had a lot of bad feelings about the hot topic that week.
It's not my blog so rather than flounce off and join the scumbag stalker haters I just took some time away from reading and commenting on the Tiller stuff.
it was the hundreds if not thousands of great Lizards here like you that brought me back, feeling refreshed.
Plus I have a tremendous amount of respect for Charles and what he is doing here, not to mention I get lots of laughs and learn about what is going on in the world, especially when I am stuck at work for long shifts ( like tonight)
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freetoken Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:49:03pm |
Daily nut-wing check:
I see that WND is now highlighting the Darwin connection to the Brunn shooting.
Another winner is their story:
'Hate crimes' called a reason 'to rumble'
In which Charlie Daniels says it is now time for Christians to "rumble" and that they've misinterpreted the "turn the other cheeck" admonition.
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FrogMarch Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:50:31pm |
Drudge - Dinnerjacket won.
According to a guest on NPR, the people who vote for Ahmadinejad in Iran are just like Republican evangelicals in America.
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Shug Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:50:43pm |
re: #360 mikeymom
welcome back shug--you were missed
thanks.
I admit I lurked a bit.
Just put tape over my ENTER button so I couldn't log on and say something in the heat of the heat of the moment which I would have regretted.
Time is a wonderful thing. Cooling off is good for people. It allowed me to approach the topic from a more rational place, and open my mind and listen to people with alternate views.
I feel a lot better for it
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VegasRick Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:51:58pm |
re: #362 FrogMarch
Drudge - Dinnerjacket won.
According to a guest on NPR, the people who vote for Ahmadinejad in Iran are just like Republican evangelicals in America.
You mean it wasn't Bush's fault? NPR is starting to slip.
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callahan23 Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:52:59pm |
re: #360 mikeymom
Hi mikeymom, is that a Maine Coon as your avatar by any chance? Here is my sweety-pie.
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Shug Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:53:00pm |
I head dinner jacket got 84% of the vote and the polls had a 16% voter casualty rate.
hmmmmm
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MJ Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:53:06pm |
Good piece by Marty Peretz in The New Republic on Obama in Cairo:
Narrative Dissonance
What the Cairo speech got wrong.
...There are two basic narratives to the nearly century-old Jewish and Arabs-of-Palestine dispute. The sheer truthfulness of these narratives is so unbalanced that Obama or his panel of oddly partisan experts must have felt obliged to tamper with real history. What is most brazen or, at best, bizarre in Obama's historical recitation is the stark omission of the whole Zionist enterprise. Instead, he chose to understand the Jewish presence in Palestine as a sort of restitution for the Holocaust. For the president, the balancing of claims--and they must always be balanced; he does not tolerate asymmetries, which would make his divine even-handedness impossible--requires distortion of what actually happened. First off was to diminish the determination of the Jewish people through the ages, and especially since the age of nationalism in the mid-nineteenth century, to reclaim their homeland, to bring its very earth out of desolation and restore its dispersed sons and daughters to Zion--all this not as a reparation, but as a right. By the time World War II--before the Holocaust, that is--began, there were already more than 500,000 Jews in Palestine. Most of them had arrived as their palpable reply to the 1917 Balfour Declaration, to the approval by the League of Nations of a British mandate for a Jewish homeland in Palestine in 1922, to the recommendations of the Peel Commission for a two-state settlement. None of this enters the president's text, not even a hint of it, perhaps because it might muddle the clarity of the equal-claim argument....
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Gus Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:53:12pm |
re: #362 FrogMarch
Drudge - Dinnerjacket won.
According to a guest on NPR, the people who vote for Ahmadinejad in Iran are just like Republican evangelicals in America.
Surprise, surprise.
/Gomer Pyle voice.
//On both counts.
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solomonpanting Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:53:24pm |
Governments are pulling out all the stops in order to raise revenue:
IRS: Company cell phone + personal calls = more taxes for you
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DEZes Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:53:48pm |
re: #359 Shug
Sometimes its best to take a few steps back and look at the situation, you did just that and thats called wisdom.
I have no clue what happened with you and the Tiller thread, and its not that important to me that I would dig to find out.
That said, welcome back.
Now make me LOL damnit.
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mikeymom Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:54:08pm |
well, i will bbl--need a shower and a good cry--a good friend of mine--her 50 yr old son had 1/3 of his face cut out on tues due to cancer from chew--just spoke to her--he is still in med coma so he can heal-family not allowed to see him cause he is in sterile ICU--it is one of the saddest things i have heard lately-prayers please- yes realwest know--BBL
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ArchangelMichael Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:54:34pm |
re: #321 Gus 802
I have the perfect fix for California's budget woes...
Make it a "right to work" state.
Any takers?
CA is a right to work state. Apparently it doesn't help.
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Gus Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:54:35pm |
re: #369 solomonpanting
Governments are pulling out all the stops in order to raise revenue:
IRS: Company cell phone + personal calls = more taxes for you
Could always add a Civil War Tax to the phone bill.
//
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Shug Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:54:35pm |
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Gus Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:55:32pm |
re: #372 ArchangelMichael
CA is a right to work state. Apparently it doesn't help.
It is? OK, there goes that theory. They must have amended it to death. Or something.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:55:46pm |
re: #332 albusteve
Loozianna rocks!...state services can be efficient if they need to be
Well, I'm not sure about the "rockin'" part, given that it's the DMV that manages to work efficiently, but some would argue that nothing else does LOL.
| 377 |
ArchangelMichael Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:55:56pm |
re: #372 ArchangelMichael
CA is a right to work state. Apparently it doesn't help.
Let me clarify that... it calls itself one, but it doesn't mean what you mean.
| 378 |
mikeymom Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:56:02pm |
re: #365 callahan23
Hi mikeymom, is that a Maine Coon as your avatar by any chance? Here is my sweety-pie.
yes-mikey is a pure bred of sisters cattery-now shes retired-he is 15 yrs old- 20 lbs--my love! kira is gorgeous!
| 379 |
AFVetWife Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:56:35pm |
I always liked Robert Plant - wasn't aware he had any recent albums.
Very OT - glad it's Friday night. Will probably watch a movie tonight, unless AFVet is too tired. Tomorrow will be usual Saturday stuff - laundry, house cleaning, then church at 5 pm followed by dinner out (yeah - no dishes!).
Lots of interesting news this week - just today, all the items about the "firing" of the AmeriCorps IG. Very interesting! Also, time to get serious about opposing the O's health care plans. We definitely have our work cut out for us - stay involved and active!
| 380 |
brookly red Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:56:47pm |
re: #366 Shug
I head dinner jacket got 84% of the vote and the polls had a 16% voter casualty rate.
hmmmmm
well in a way this is good, he does show the beast's true face after all.
| 381 |
Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:57:37pm |
Oooh, I just got email from Ban Ki-Moon saying the UN will give me 1 million dollars. Funny, though, the email comes from a host in Russia (ses-ko.ru) and reply-to an address at sbcglobal.
Here's the text for fun:
Dear Beneficiary,How are you today? Hope all is well with you and your family? I hope this mail meets you in a perfect condition. This is the United Nations Organisation (COMPENSATION DEPARTMENT),this program is organised by the Board of Trustees and Directors for the middle of the Year "POVERTY REDUCTION AND ERADICATION". We are using our reputable and well known organisation to let you know that you are one of our chosen beneficiaries for this program of "POVERTY REDUCTION AND ERADICATION" in your country e-mail directory.
We hereby inform you that you have successfully being chosen and compensated for an International Bank Draft written out in your name in the amount of $1,000,000.00 (One Million United State Of America Dollars) in our West Africa regional Annex. Now, for the compensated price, you will have to contact the Finance House and the Compensation Department for your perusals and claims of your compensated price.
My dear beneficiary, below is the contact of the Finance House and Compensation Department (FHCD) for the collection and claims of your international certificated bank draft:
COMPENSATION HEAD OFFICE AND FINANCIAL DEPARTMENT
CONTACT Officer: Mr. Daniel Freeman
EMAIL:((deleted at)sbcglobal.net)
CELL PHONE: +234-(deleted)Below is our Chief Organiser's contact information in the United Kingdom if you should have any questions and verifications to make for proper enlightment and explanation.case you want to verify or get any comfirmation from me but i want you to be rest assured that your bank draft will be cashed at your nominated Bank.
Finally remember that I have forwarded instruction to the finance house on your behalf to send the bank draft to you as soon as you contact them without delay.Please be informed that you should treat this as confidential as ever and in good faith from the Board and Management of the Organisation.
You are to provide the following information.
Your Full Name:....................
Your Address:...............
Personal Telephone Number:................
Age:...................
Sex:....................
Occupation:................
Nationality:....................
Country:.................Thanks. God Loves and Bless you and your family.
Hope to contact the F.H.C.D soon.
Your's Faithfully,
Secretary Mrs. Linda Spray for Mr Ban Ki-Moon
C.E.O / CHIEF ORGANISER
Anyone want to have fun with them?
| 382 |
IslandLibertarian Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:57:49pm |
re: #289 solomonpanting
Thanks......I can't get to that mail box from the computer I'm at right now....something about my sack puppet refusing to go online during daylight hours or some such nonsense. Don't understand this tech crap.....
| 383 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:58:38pm |
re: #378 mikeymom
yes-mikey is a pure bred of sisters cattery-now shes retired-he is 15 yrs old- 20 lbs--my love! kira is gorgeous!
I do believe one of my cats must have some "maine coon" in it.
The cat is huge. 17 lbs. Stands about 12 inches tall. She's longer than our other cats (haven't been able to measure length). She's got a larger face and head, and is just bigger all the way around.
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Gus Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:58:40pm |
re: #377 ArchangelMichael
Let me clarify that... it calls itself one, but it doesn't mean what you mean.
Roger. California just goes out of its way to chase away business, industry, and eventually jobs.
| 385 |
freetoken Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:59:09pm |
re: #362 FrogMarch
According to a guest on NPR, the people who vote for Ahmadinejad in Iran are just like Republican evangelicals in America.
Well.... Ahmadinejad does drink tea.
| 386 |
Lincolntf Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:59:39pm |
So who knows what's up w/the Iranian election? Not that it'll make much difference, but the networks are jumbling/re-reporting the poll numbers. Anyone got a real link to the ongoing results?
| 387 |
screaming_eagle Fri, Jun 12, 2009 4:59:47pm |
re: #381 Kosh's Shadow
Send it back with Barney Frank's info.
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Kenneth Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:00:50pm |
re: #367 MJ
Great link! Obama's Cairo speech was so unhistorical. It did however reflect the mythologies of his anti-zionist camp.
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FrogMarch Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:02:23pm |
re: #364 VegasRick
You mean it wasn't Bush's fault? NPR is starting to slip.
Well not really - they've just moved on.
| 391 |
Kenneth Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:02:35pm |
re: #386 Lincolntf
The Pasadaran are still counting up the votes.
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Gus Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:03:13pm |
re: #362 FrogMarch
Drudge - Dinnerjacket won.
According to a guest on NPR, the people who vote for Ahmadinejad in Iran are just like Republican evangelicals in America.
OK, hypothetical scenario for NPR guy. Adam Lambert shows up to sing at an evangelical GOP stronghold in Somewhere, USA. Days later, Adam Lambert shows up to sing in some Imadinnerjacket City, Iran. What would ensue from these events? What would be the contrasts?
| 393 |
callahan23 Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:03:18pm |
re: #374 Shug
what I said in #352 applies to you too friend.
thanks
There seems to be a whole upding-gang at the works. ;-)
You are good people plus you make me laugh as a nice topping.
It is such a wonderful place here, the insights I get, the stuff I learn and the many times I screem of laughter are just priceless.
| 395 |
screaming_eagle Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:04:02pm |
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Lincolntf Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:04:07pm |
re: #388 Kenneth
Can't blame Obama, he was probably just distracted recalling all those jokes about Miguel Cairo banging Chelsea Clinton.
You don't remember those jokes? Hmmm.., neither do I....
| 397 |
DEZes Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:04:32pm |
re: #386 Lincolntf
So who knows what's up w/the Iranian election? Not that it'll make much difference, but the networks are jumbling/re-reporting the poll numbers. Anyone got a real link to the ongoing results?
Just a few days ago, I read in the Courier Journal that Dinnerjacket had little chance of winning.
Yeah I laughed at that, but not in a good way.
There were reports that the police were prepared for riots.
| 398 |
VegasRick Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:05:47pm |
| 399 |
screaming_eagle Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:06:43pm |
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nyc redneck Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:06:55pm |
ooops i just heard mark levin announce that dinner-jacket won.
i wonder if that is the final result.
if it is, o will be very disappointed.
his rousing inspiring cairo speech won't have changed the course of world history
in the m.e.
(actually i bet the mullahs picked din-jac just to fck w/ him. )
| 402 |
VegasRick Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:07:09pm |
re: #392 Gus 802
OK, hypothetical scenario for NPR guy. Adam Lambert shows up to sing at an evangelical GOP stronghold in Somewhere, USA. Days later, Adam Lambert shows up to sing in some Imadinnerjacket City, Iran. What would ensue from these events? What would be the contrasts?
He'd get laid in Iran.
| 403 |
Gus Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:07:14pm |
re: #397 DEZes
Just a few days ago, I read in the Courier Journal that Dinnerjacket had little chance of winning.
Yeah I laughed at that, but not in a good way.
There were reports that the police were prepared for riots.
The people that voted for Dinnerjacket are not unlike the people that vote for Barbara Boxer.
//
| 404 |
FrogMarch Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:07:16pm |
re: #367 MJ
Good piece by Marty Peretz in The New Republic on Obama in Cairo:
Narrative Dissonance
What the Cairo speech got wrong.
Great. Do you have a link?
| 405 |
brookly red Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:08:46pm |
OK, I have wanted to say this all day...
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
CNN has a story "dog eats bag of pot, gets high". Well yeah OK, this is where we get our news from?
| 406 |
screaming_eagle Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:09:09pm |
re: #400 nyc redneck
(actually i bet the mullahs picked din-jac just to fck w/ him. )
MSNBC won't like that. Nobody messes with the one without NBC trying to slander them. Even those pesky mullahs.
| 407 |
DEZes Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:10:52pm |
re: #406 screaming_eagle
MSNBC won't like that. Nobody messes with the one without NBC trying to slander them. Even those pesky mullahs.
The contortions the media will do with this to spin it in a good light should be quite a show.
| 408 |
Shug Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:10:59pm |
Imagine if Obama was a coach.
He'd have to wait till the teleprompter got fired up to give the pregame pep talk
| 410 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:11:28pm |
Ugh. I wished dinnerjacket good luck today.
DIDN'T THEY SEE THE SARC TAG?!?!
| 411 |
Hengineer Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:11:33pm |
I think I've heard Johnny Cash sing the legend of John Henry
| 412 |
callahan23 Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:11:49pm |
| 413 |
MJ Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:12:16pm |
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DEZes Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:12:25pm |
re: #408 Shug
Imagine if Obama was a coach.
He'd have to wait till the teleprompter got fired up to give the pregame pep talk
Would he throw a chair man?
Note to self, Worst pun ever.
| 416 |
brookly red Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:13:55pm |
re: #408 Shug
Imagine if Obama was a coach.
He'd have to wait till the teleprompter got fired up to give the pregame pep talk
somehow apologizing for your team winning just doesn't seem like good form...
| 417 |
freetoken Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:14:13pm |
Freepers are frantically trying to distance themselves from Brunn.
| 418 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:14:14pm |
re: #411 Hengineer
I've been to the John Henry Monument. Talcott, WV.
But, alas...it's named after Senator Byrd.
| 419 |
Gus Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:14:40pm |
re: #408 Shug
Imagine if Obama was a coach.
He'd have to wait till the teleprompter got fired up to give the pregame pep talk
He could get a Helmet Mounted Display System with a built in tele-prompter.
//
| 420 |
screaming_eagle Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:15:20pm |
re: #416 brookly red
somehow apologizing for your team winning just doesn't seem like good form...
But you could blame the former coach if you lose.
| 421 |
VegasRick Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:15:31pm |
re: #414 DEZes
Would he throw a chair man?
Note to self, Worst pun ever.
Speaking of furniture - I saw an ad for a sofa store "Sofa King" - "Our Prices are Sofa King Low!"
LOL!
| 422 |
FrogMarch Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:15:53pm |
| 423 |
brookly red Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:16:49pm |
| 424 |
DEZes Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:16:51pm |
re: #421 VegasRick
Speaking of furniture - I saw an ad for a sofa store "Sofa King" - "Our Prices are Sofa King Low!"
LOL!
Okay, thats even worse. ;)
Gonna hit the new thread.
| 425 |
Kenneth Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:16:52pm |
It's beginning to look like Ahmadinejad has managed to steal this election. One possible good outcome from this is if the Iranian people respond with mass protests to bring down not only Ahmadinejad, but the mullahs as well.
| 426 |
FrogMarch Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:17:03pm |
| 427 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:17:38pm |
Entire Raising Sand CD is available on line for the low low low price of "free".
| 428 |
nyc redneck Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:18:44pm |
i don't believe for a second that the 'election' in iran was anything but a scam.
the people of iran have no voice.
they are held hostage by a hideous regime which o loves to call the 'islamic republic of iran'.
how could there be even a semblance of fair elections in a cesspool like that?
o could have talked abt. democracy and freedom and individual liberty in his cairo speech to inspire the citizens of iran.
instead he talked stupid, like a suck up moron, awe struck by islam.
totally demoralizing them.
he is such a world class idiot.
| 429 |
solomonpanting Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:20:03pm |
re: #408 Shug
Imagine if Obama was a coach.
He'd have to wait till the teleprompter got fired up to give the pregame pep talk
"Let's win one for the 'promter."
| 430 |
Killian Bundy Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:20:22pm |
Sub collides with sonar array towed by U.S. Navy ship
In what a U.S. military official calls an "inadvertent encounter," a Chinese submarine hit an underwater sonar array being towed by the destroyer USS John McCain on Thursday.
The array was damaged, but the sub and the ship did not collide, the official said. A sonar array is a radar towed behind a ship that listens and locates underwater sounds.
The incident occurred near Subic Bay off the coast of the Philippines.
The official, who declined to be named because the incident had not been made public, would not say whether the U.S. ship knew the submarine was that close to it.
However, the Navy does not believe this was a deliberate incident of Chinese harassment, as it would have been extremely dangerous had the array gotten caught in the submarine's propellers.
/China sure does like colliding with our military equipment
| 431 |
reine.de.tout Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:20:54pm |
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Shug Fri, Jun 12, 2009 5:25:07pm |
re: #416 brookly red
somehow apologizing for your team winning just doesn't seem like good form...
unless he was the coach of the Lions.
Nothing to be sorry for
| 434 |
spaceman Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:47:58am |
Love the Krauss/Plant collaboration.
You can't go wrong with it if you enjoy folk or American roots type music.
My favorites are "Please read the letter" and "Killing the Blues"
Most highly recommended!
| 435 |
Leonidas Hoplite Sun, Jun 14, 2009 9:00:15am |
Hi Charles and everyone who loves guitar:
I saw Sonny Landreth for the first time two nights ago at a local music bar/restaurant. If anyone likes virtuoso slide guitar, or just amazing guitar, check him out. He has several albums but I recommend his live album Grant Street as an introduction.
Have a great Sunday everyone.
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