Hm… sounds Randian. Was Shakespeare a fan?

To thine own self favorite talk show host be true.

-Modern American Conservative

Good baseball weekend.

Football…not so much. It’s still early, so I might as well pretend today’s loss to the Jets or yesterday’s BC loss to Clemson never happened.

This above all: to thine own self be true,
And it must follow, as the night the day,
Thou canst not then be false to any man.

Don’t Shit Where
You Eat

Edith Piaf - La Vie En Rose

re: #6 Gus 802

Wish I could give you more than one up-ding.

re: #3 Fenway_Nation

Good baseball weekend.

Football…not so much. It’s still early, so I might as well pretend today’s loss to the Jets or yesterday’s BC loss to Clemson never happened.

Great football weekend, terrible baseball weekend.

re: #7 freetoken

Wish I could give you more than one up-ding.

Great song. There’s also the Louis Armstrong version.

re: #8 TheMatrix31

Well…Army actually won this weekend.

/wonders if they’ll be bowl-eligible this year.

Fenway…here’s the Giants season in a nutshell.

I spent Monday night in AT&T Park, watching the Giants do something they seem to have forgotten is actually legal:

Cross home plate more than twice.

Yessir, the Giants scored nine runs Monday — nine — for the first time in any home game since July 9, for just the sixth time in a home game all season and for only the second time in any of Tim Lincecum’s last 45 starts. They even had two innings of three runs or more Monday. Before that, they’d had four all month — in 106 innings.

But now here’s what’s really interesting:

As regular readers of this blog know, from time to time this month, Three Strikes will be looking in on September’s hidden dramas — the quest for historic feats that don’t quite rank up there with Derek Jeter’s pursuit of Lou Gehrig. And the Giants are on the road to an all-timer:

They currently rank dead last in the major leagues — that’s No. 30 out of 30 teams — in on-base percentage. Their OBP of .308 is more than 50 points lower than the Yankees’ OBP (.362) — and even 35 points lower than the Nationals’ (.343).

Yet this team could still make it to the postseason. And that, friends, would be a truly historic development.

Just to put that .308 OBP in some recent perspective, if that number holds, it would be the fifth lowest, over a whole season, of any team in either league since the “age of offense” kicked in back in 1993. Three of the four teams to beat it — the 2002 Tigers, 2003 Tigers and 1993 Mets — lost 106, 119 and 103 games, respectively.

But this team could make the postseason. And even if it doesn’t, it would need to go only 12-6 in its last 18 games to win 90 this season. And that’s incredible.

Hello, Late Night Lizards!
(Well, it’s late night in my time zone!)

Keep an eye on the Limbaugh thread, still got “it’s sarcasm” deniers popping up!

re: #11 traderjoe9

Sounds like the Braves season. Couldn’t get one of if not the best pitching staff in the NL consistent run support to save their lives. We get run support, and we own that division. Ugh.

Night folks. Happy Monday.

Hi Floral! “nite Gus!

re: #13 TheMatrix31

Sounds like the Braves season. Couldn’t get one of if not the best pitching staff in the NL consistent run support to save their lives. We get run support, and we own that division. Ugh.

Look now…you have no right to complain. The Braves have won a world series in your lifetime…the Giants haven’t even won a world series in my PARENTS lifetimes.

The Giants have the second best ERA in MLB. The only reason the Dodgers have a better ERA is because they consistently face our pathetic lineup.

And as far as best rotations…

1. Lincecum
2. Cain
3. Zito
4. Sanchez
5. Penny/Bumgarner

:-)

re: #6 Gus 802

Rina Ketty Si Tu Reviens

re: #16 traderjoe9

Yeah…what did you guys give us for Penny again? A Shake ‘N Bake coupon? A jar of pennies?

re: #12 Floral Giraffe

Who knew I was being prophetic with this post the day before.

/actually, I wasn’t being prophetic. The apologists are just predictably pathetic.

Time to sail off in a wooden shoe on a river of crystal light.

Dream time — good night all you late nighters!

re: #18 Fenway_Nation

Yeah…what did you guys give us for Penny again? A Shake ‘N Bake coupon? A jar of pennies?

We pretty much picked the guy up for free!

re: #19 Slumbering Behemoth

Heya Slumbering…I actually came up with a ‘plot’ outline (however flimsy and contrived) for an episode of Fenway and the Behemoth..

re: #16 traderjoe9

Very true. If I wasn’t a Braves fan, I would have probably ended up being a Giants fan, being from Fresno and all.

re: #22 Fenway_Nation

I’ll sign on as long as it involves the three key elements that are intrinsic to any F&B plot:

1. Cigars
2. Alcohol
3. Hookers
/

re: #19 Slumbering Behemoth

Who knew I was being prophetic with this post the day before.

/actually, I wasn’t being prophetic. The apologists are just predictably pathetic.

Well, I updinged that one a couple of days ago!
What’s tonight’s forecast?

To all of you media types and liberal politicians out there who say that because I’m against this administration’s policies that I’m a racist, I have a message for you; a very subtle message: go get yourselves a 64 ounce cup of SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! Skin color means absolutely NOTHING to me. The potential long-term damage to this country means everything to me. For about a third of my active duty military service, my commander-in-chief was that P.O.S. Jimmy Carter. I despised him and his policies; was I a racist then? No. Am I a racist now? Not only no, but hell no! So, you people climb back into your holes and go away until you come up with some logical way to discuss this.

has Charles moved left?

i only ask because you can’t go to a conservative blog without them cursing out LFG

In my opinion Charles has always been a realist. Sometimes that realism has put him on the right. Now it puts him on the left.

this is not radical. Many of your 80’s intellectuals that supported the Republican party now support Obama. Why is this? Many of them are realists that thought during the 80’s realism could confront the problems of the 80’s. Realism defeated communism. Remember it was the neocons that wanted Reagan to be much harder on the Soviets.

I could be wrong. Did LGF support the invasian of Iraq? If so i’m probably wrong

re: #25 Floral Giraffe

It’s going to be hot as fuck all week here :-/

re: #28 TheMatrix31

Yes, well, it’s not like the weathermen are ALWAYS right…

re: #27 spiderx

has Charles moved left?

i only ask because you can’t go to a conservative blog without them cursing out LFG

In my opinion Charles has always been a realist. Sometimes that realism has put him on the right. Now it puts him on the left.

this is not radical. Many of your 80’s intellectuals that supported the Republican party now support Obama. Why is this? Many of them are realists that thought during the 80’s realism could confront the problems of the 80’s. Realism defeated communism. Remember it was the neocons that wanted Reagan to be much harder on the Soviets.

I could be wrong. Did LGF support the invasian of Iraq? If so i’m probably wrong

Calling out stupidity, intolerance and vile, disgusting behavior that occurs on the Right does not automatically make you a Leftist. Some people - notably, those indulging in such behavior themselves - don’t see it this way, and reach for the nearest shop-worn epithet they have.

Apparently, the truth hurts, and in many cases people are unwilling to do anything about it by simply stopping their odious actions and statements.

Also, on a personal note: I’m much more critical of the things I care about - because I care about them, and don’t like to see them sullied by oafs. Again, criticizing the Right doesn’t make you part of the opposition. It may just make you someone who wants better from it.

re: #24 Slumbering Behemoth

Starts w/Slumbering bedding what turns out to be a married woman (altho’ she doesn’t identify herself as such). Said woman’s husband finds out and courtesey of some item you left behind [preferrably without your picture], tracks you down to the titular charchters’ swingin’ bachelor pad. I awake one morning to a furious pounding on the door while you’re out and am promptly decked by the jealous husband as soon as I open the door.

Turns out said jealous husband is a firefighter. You find out about this and feel some remorse about being a homewrecker [however inadvertant] and urge me not to press charges while obfuscating about the married woman you bedded or why I was the one knocked the fuck out…

re: #29 Floral Giraffe

Argh…they’re ALWAYS right about the heat :-/

re: #28 TheMatrix31

What part of the country is here?

re: #30 SixDegrees

I would like to compliment you on most, if not all of your posts.
I very much enjoy reading your well expressed thoughts.
Sometimes, more than an upding, is needed!
Thanks for taking the time.

re: #30 SixDegrees

I had something of an epiphany today that I hope Steele, Romney, Pawlenty, Gulianni or whomever can pick up on.

For 2010 and 2012, they should run on a platform of fiscal conservatism before they get caught up in the social conservatism issues. If they really want to press matters in that regard, then they should send out a few trial balloons after they’ve been elected.

A jobless recovery doesn’t mean much if you’re one of the jobless. Double-digit unemployment and skyrocketing commodity prices aren’t exactly signs of a recovering economy.

re: #35 Fenway_Nation

Yeah, I’m a social conservative too but fiscal/foreign is the most important thing at the moment. Start with it!

Thats why I like Linda McMahon’s platform. She’s running against that fucker Chris Dodd for the Senate spot. Her website only discusses fiscal issues because that’s what’s drawing her in.

Linda 2010

re: #33 sngnsgt

Los Angeles, Hellifornia.

re: #25 Floral Giraffe

What’s tonight’s forecast?

Fenway has to bail The Behemoth out of jail after he propositions a cop disguised as a hooker. The twist: The Behemoth asks the “hooker’s” price, and then demands she pay him $200 to make up the difference for his “Stud Fee”. The cop doesn’t find it funny.

Out of deep gratitude for the bail out, The Behemoth takes Fenway out to The Bar where he gets uproariously drunk and engulfs a patron in flames when he accidentally touches his lit cigar to her polyester jacket.
/

re: #38 Slumbering Behemoth

LOL!
I was a juror on a trial for a “john” picking up a prostitute (who was an undercover policewoman) in LA, once upon a time. It was actually funny.

re: #31 Fenway_Nation

HA!

re: #38 Slumbering Behemoth

Would it be too contrived for the unfaithful wife to bed the Fenway in a bid to get him to drop the charges against her husband so he won’t lose his job?

re: #27 spiderx

First of all, I agree with SixDegrees completely.

Second- that’s a strange question to ask. The only thing that’s changed is the mask slipped off everyone else and we see clearly now with whom it is we’re dealing. They assumed everyone would be cool with that. They thought wrong. There’s been no shifting sands- just a line drawn.

re: #4 Silvergirl

This above all: to thine own self be true,
And it must follow, as the night the day,
Thou canst not then be false to any man.

Favourited, SG. You rock.

re: #41 Fenway_Nation

Not at all. We ain’t writing Shakespeare here, brother.

re: #39 Floral Giraffe

LOL!
I was a juror on a trial for a “john” picking up a prostitute (who was an undercover policewoman) in LA, once upon a time. It was actually funny.

Yea…thanks for bringing that up.

/I was mortified.

re: #37 TheMatrix31

I’m in Vegas, I hear ya.

I had a silly thought.

Visualize for a moment a few urban gangster types (likely wanna-be gang bangers) sitting in their absurdly pimped out car at a red light with the stereo emitting the usual noise.

Crossing the intersection in an ornate carriage is someone who looks like Frederick the Great, following the carriage on wagons is an orchestra playing the Brandenburg Concerto, drowning out the stereo in the gangster car. We see the astounded expressions on the faces of the gangsters.

Just a thought I had while parked at a taxi stand with the radio on the local classical station.

re: #26 I Need A Bigger Gun

To all of you media types and liberal politicians out there who say that because I’m against this administration’s policies that I’m a racist, I have a message for you

Sorry. Some people do play the race card all the time. Al Sharpton is a good example.

That isn’t what is going on now when people point out the very real
examples of real racism against our POTUS.

It’s easy to criticise the POTUS and his admin’s policies and not be called a racist. Just don’t make racist criticisms.

re: #43 iceweasel

Hiya, Ice!

re: #47 The Other Les

Sounds like any night on Hollywood Boulevard…The orchestra is in the carriage, though…

re: #47 The Other Les

Nix the heavy handed “gansta” stereotype, and you may just have Grey Poupon commercial there.

re: #27 spiderx

AFAIK, LGF and Charles have always been anti-idiotarian above all else. That’s why I hang here.

The wingnuts made assumptions about him and loooved him— when the idiots he was pointing out were only on the left.

Now they’re crying and shrieking and calling him a traitor— although he was never a wingnut at all, and his alleged apostacy consists in pointing out idiots wherever he finds them. Even on the right.

My opinion only.

re: #49 Floral Giraffe

Hiya, Ice!

Hey honey! {FG} How are you? I keep being here at the wrong times to chat with you and it makes me sad!

re: #39 Floral Giraffe

LOL!
I was a juror on a trial for a “john” picking up a prostitute (who was an undercover policewoman) in LA, once upon a time. It was actually funny.

Recently I was called into a jury pool. The cases included two crack dealers, robbery with a firearm, arson of an occupied dwelling, and multiple instances and types of sexual molestation of a female under the age of 12 by a male over the age of 30.

I wasn’t chosen to sit on any of the juries. Forgive me for being damned glad that I wasn’t chosen for that last one. I know that juries are needed for even the most repulsive trials, and I’m reasonably certain that I would have fairly and impartially discharged my duty as a citizen juror, but sitting through that little girl’s testimony and cross-examination (and yes, she was going to testify) would have been sheer heartbreaking hell to endure. It was wincingly painful even to hear the counsels discuss the specifics of th case before they chose their jurors from the pool.

re: #45 Fenway_Nation

LOL!
It was NOT you.
I know this, because, teh stupids, well one of them had his MOTHER testify that her son would never do such a thing. Another line of “defense” was that they were on their way to meet their girlfriends, so they couldn’t have done this.

I do wish I were making this up.
You have NO IDEA how painfull it was to sit through DAYS of this.

re: #44 Slumbering Behemoth

I could imagine the dialogue where you’re trying to persuade me not to press charges without letting slip you were the one the firefighter’s wife slept with.

the Behemoth: “C’mon Fen! These guys are heroes…they rush into burning buildings and all kinds of dangerous shit”
The Fenway: “Yeah, but our apartment wasn’t on fire this morning and…wait a second. Wasn’t it just last month you called them a bunch of hose-toting, dalmatian grooming, grab-assing jag-offs?”
the Behemoth: “Well…er…can’t a guy have a change of heart?”
the Fenway: “Oh…so now that one of them knocked my ass out, they’re back to being heroes?”

Or towards the end of the episode where we watch from a distance as the husband and wife appear to reconcile at The Bar:

the Behemoth: “Isn’t it good that they’re back together?”
the Fenway: “Fuck no. That marriage will be a train-wreck. Mark my words.”
the Behemoth: “Yea…but at least we get to watch from a distance instead of being the ones on the runaway train”
the Fenway: “OK- I’ll drink to that”
the Behemoth (raising glass): “To [firefighter’s name] and [wife’s name]…”
the Fenway (raising glass): “May they be somebody else’s problem now”

re: #53 iceweasel

Well, tomorrow’s not gonna be fun, but I do like the late night LGF’rs!
{ice}

That repairman better not call at 8am…

This is about right.

And, due to pressure from the Nancy, it appears @bama’s knees are getting wobbly. Stiffen up, your the Commander in Chief, this shit isn’t easy.

If he bails on this, it will cost him Gates and McChrystal, and deservedly so.

re: #54 Salamantis

I once got a whole courtroom of potential jurrors thrown out.
The judge was SO pissed at me. It was a machine shop accident, where the victim had his arm cut off at the shoulder. He had settled with most of the parties responsible, and the defense lawyer was trying to claim that since he’d received a lot of settlements, the victim wasn’t entitled to anything from his client. I did try to talk to the judge in private, but was told to “state my objection”. So, I did. I got around 400 potential jurrors out of that mess.

re: #56 Fenway_Nation

the Fenway: “Oh…so now that one of them knocked my ass out, they’re back to being heroes?”

Hahaha!

I swear, if I see a sitcom that is ripping this stuff off I am gonna be super pissed.

Hole — Malibu

re: #59 Floral Giraffe

What was your objection?

re: #59 Floral Giraffe

I once got a whole courtroom of potential jurrors thrown out.
The judge was SO pissed at me. It was a machine shop accident, where the victim had his arm cut off at the shoulder. He had settled with most of the parties responsible, and the defense lawyer was trying to claim that since he’d received a lot of settlements, the victim wasn’t entitled to anything from his client. I did try to talk to the judge in private, but was told to “state my objection”. So, I did. I got around 400 potential jurrors out of that mess.

A friend of mine was a juror on a civil case where a cop moonlighting as an orderly at a mental health facility used an illegal chokehold on a disorderly mentally ill institutionalized patient and killed him.

All the other jurors wanted to vote innocent, not least because they were either willing to give a cop a pass or were fearful of reprisals from our local police department. She stood her ground for days, and finally got the man’s bereaved parents a 175 thousand buck wrongful death settlement.

re: #60 Slumbering Behemoth

The writers probably have dedicated people combing the blogs, chatrooms and bulliten boards for materiel.

/Nice work if you can get it, I suppose.

re: #62 Slumbering Behemoth

The man lost his arm at the shoulder through no fault of his own, other than working there. He could never hold & hug his kids with both arms.
Among other things.

It was a power saw attached to a wall. There was a parking lot on the other side of the wall. A car backed into the wall, as the man went to use the saw, the car hit. Shop owner, parking lot owner, parking lot renter, driver of the car & more all involved.
Still, how do you put a price on an arm?

Besides, “he’s collected enough allready” is bullshit.
That’s for the jury to decide.

re: #63 Salamantis

I might find out what the process is like, as I have received my first jury summons in thirty:mumble: years of life on this planet.

For the last week I have been getting the “Check the website at this time tomorrow” response.

re: #61 iceweasel

More like this with that girl.

Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

re: #65 Floral Giraffe

The man lost his arm at the shoulder through no fault of his own, other than working there. He could never hold & hug his kids with both arms.
Among other things.

It was a power saw attached to a wall. There was a parking lot on the other side of the wall. A car backed into the wall, as the man went to use the saw, the car hit. Shop owner, parking lot owner, parking lot renter, driver of the car & more all involved.
Still, how do you put a price on an arm?

Besides, “he’s collected enough allready” is bullshit.
That’s for the jury to decide.

The lawyer for the man accused of child molestation asked the jury pool if they could accept the idea that a child could lie about being molested by his client in order to revenge herself for being disciplined by him. The counsel for the state immediately objected that the defence counsel was attempting to try the case before the jury pool, and the objection was sustained. Defence counsel was ordered not to bring up such defences in any further questioning of a jury pool, and we were all dismissed as potential jurors from the case.

It was a blatant attempt by the defence counsel to find out which jurors might be most sympathetic to such a defence, so he could choose them for his client’s jury.

re: #68 Salamantis

I think you should thank your lucky stars for getting dismissed from that one. And know, that while flawed, the jury system is the fairest, IMHO, in the world. I have been a juror over 20 times. I won’t say all of the juries were great, but I do think that there were at least 2 or more antiidiotarians on each jury, and that justice was done. They weren’t my “peers” in many ways, but neither was I their “peer” in other ways.
My Dad had a homicide case, where the husband & wife were drinking & got into a fight. He pulled a knife & cut her badly, she shot him dead. The trial went on for months. I would have had a hard time with that.

I would have also had a hard time with the child molestation trial.

Just fyi, I have now exceeded 20,000 karma points in less than 13,200 posts, for a ratio exceeding 1.5 karma points per post. I guess people here must think I’m doing something right…;~)

re: #34 Floral Giraffe

I would like to compliment you on most, if not all of your posts.
I very much enjoy reading your well expressed thoughts.
Sometimes, more than an upding, is needed!
Thanks for taking the time.

Thank you.

re: #73 Salamantis

Nah, you suck!
///
BIG SARCASM!
you really rock!

Karma’s teh kewl!

re: #74 SixDegrees

You have earned it.
Please keep up the good work!
I like learning, and I learn a lot here.

re: #65 Floral Giraffe

The man lost his arm at the shoulder through no fault of his own, other than working there. He could never hold & hug his kids with both arms.
Among other things.

It was a power saw attached to a wall. There was a parking lot on the other side of the wall. A car backed into the wall, as the man went to use the saw, the car hit. Shop owner, parking lot owner, parking lot renter, driver of the car & more all involved.
Still, how do you put a price on an arm?

Besides, “he’s collected enough allready” is bullshit.
That’s for the jury to decide.

I agree with the last sentence…that is never a reason to throw a case. BUT REALLY? The parking lot owner, shop owner, lot renter…all involved? Really? That sort of reasoning is what is bankrupting this country. The driver of the car is the sole responsible party unless you have a lot more info you haven’t shared. This poor guy lost an arm. And everybody else lost an arm and a leg.

re: #77 Escaped Hillbilly

Would you still feel that way, if it was YOUR arm?

re: #73 Salamantis

I was told there would be no math?

re: #78 Floral Giraffe

Would you still feel that way, if it was YOUR arm?

Yes. My nephew was hit by a drunk driver and paralyzed. He died about a year later of the lingering effects. My sister sued BOTH tavern owners (who had cut him off when he had drank too much but not stopped him from driving home) the police (who were already on the way when he was struck thanks to an anonymous tip) and HIS PARENTS for reasons that remain nebulous to me. They won some, lost some. By the time the first suit was won, he had only 3 months left. My sister and her husband are driving his specially adapted van and fighting with his fiance over the rest. Shameful. Breaks my mother’s heart. This was not how we were raised.

I guess my question is…what made the shop owener et al responsible for the accident? Were they in some way negligent?

re: #77 Escaped Hillbilly

I agree with the last sentence…that is never a reason to throw a case. BUT REALLY? The parking lot owner, shop owner, lot renter…all involved? Really? That sort of reasoning is what is bankrupting this country. The driver of the car is the sole responsible party unless you have a lot more info you haven’t shared. This poor guy lost an arm. And everybody else lost an arm and a leg.

Disagree. The others - or more properly, their insurance companies - lost money. Not body parts, which are irreplaceable.

And Floral was quite correct to point out that it isn’t up to the defense to decide that a plaintiff had received “enough”; that decision properly lies with the jury, or the judge if all parties agree to a bench trial. That the defense would even offer such a rationale is somewhat astonishing; it walks right up to the line between bringing suit and actually testifying before the jury pool, and I suspect it was his or Floral’s crossing of that line that led to the dismissal of the pool, now tainted by such remarks.

re: #81 Escaped Hillbilly

I was not seated for the trial, but, if I recall correctly ( and it was a LONG time ago) there were issues with how the saw was installed to the wall (shop owner) and issues with the wall being next to a parking lot (building owner knew better than the law) driver made a mistake, and more.
I am sorry for your family’s loss & heartbreak. It’s NEVER easy to lose a loved one, and to do so through bad decisions is even harder.
I wish you well.

re: #82 SixDegrees

It was not up to defense to decide if he had received enough. We already agreed on that point.
MY point is…the judge and or jury should not have given him a dime from people who are INNOCENT of any wrong doing. This is putting a gun to my head cause you got robbed mentality. That shop owner may have had to declare bankrupcy over this case. Do not assume “insurance” paid for it all. PS, where does “insurance” money come from? Hint: same place “government funds” come from. I object to you reapportioning my money. Yes, this guy lost a limb. My uncle lost a limb when he cut it off sawing down trees. Should he sue Husquevarna? Maybe he should sue the property owner, my grandfather…who also lost a leg due to the complications of diabetes. Where does this end? Tragedy strikes. It is not necessarily my fault.

re: #83 Floral Giraffe

Thanks, those details help.

Still shot from this movie apparently based on this real-life incident.

re: #84 Escaped Hillbilly

It was not up to defense to decide if he had received enough. We already agreed on that point.
MY point is…the judge and or jury should not have given him a dime from people who are INNOCENT of any wrong doing. This is putting a gun to my head cause you got robbed mentality. That shop owner may have had to declare bankrupcy over this case. Do not assume “insurance” paid for it all. PS, where does “insurance” money come from? Hint: same place “government funds” come from. I object to you reapportioning my money. Yes, this guy lost a limb. My uncle lost a limb when he cut it off sawing down trees. Should he sue Husquevarna? Maybe he should sue the property owner, my grandfather…who also lost a leg due to the complications of diabetes. Where does this end? Tragedy strikes. It is not necessarily my fault.

Apparently, they weren’t innocent.

Crud, we are getting called away. Sorry to go. Thanks for the conversation. Probably be out of the loop for a while.

re: #82 SixDegrees

I got totally REAMED by the judge for “tainting the jury pool” and was young enough to be intimidated by him. He did NOT like it, when I reminded him of my request to discuss my issue at the bench, in private.
Today, I’d lay into him. Then, well, he was a JUDGE, and I was a lay person. Once upon a time, long ago…LOL!

re: #9 Gus 802

Great song. There’s also the Louis Armstrong version.

I actually prefer the Grace Jones version - and there are a number of them. The visuals in this one are fantastic - they were created by Jean-Paul Goude.

This one is softer, nearly silky - really lovely

where you’ve got a Frenchman in the comments section saying “i am French and i have to say after all the versions i heard, this is the best one, her accent is lovely!”

re: #17 FamHistoryGuy

Rina Ketty Si Tu Reviens

Nice.

So is this: Charles Trénet, ‘La Mer’

Yesterday…

re: #89 Floral Giraffe

I got totally REAMED by the judge for “tainting the jury pool” and was young enough to be intimidated by him. He did NOT like it, when I reminded him of my request to discuss my issue at the bench, in private.
Today, I’d lay into him. Then, well, he was a JUDGE, and I was a lay person. Once upon a time, long ago…LOL!

I’ve been called a bunch of times, but only served once. The case was a couple of high school students; one of them had allegedly spit on the other one, and the spitee’s asshole trailer-trash parents decided to take it all the way to a jury trial. No witnesses. No evidence. One idiot’s word against that of another idiot. We dismissed the charges on the basis of an assumption of innocence that wasn’t disproved by the pathetic testimony offered.

Afterward, the judge came back to the jury room and openly apologized for wasting out time, while pointing out that a jury trial was everyone’s right. He, the prosecutors and the defense attorneys had all browbeat the parents into settling - which probably would have resulted in some minor charge against the spitter, better than what they got - but they decided to be pig-headed and goad sonny-boy into an outright loss.

I collected my eight bucks and went home in time for lunch.

re: #93 SixDegrees

I got on the “will serve” list somehow. My employer paid for 3 days of service, to me, it was a VACATION! Showed up at 10, 2 hour lunch, dismissed at 3, what’s not to like?

Um, the trials are “what’s not to like”. I had prostitution, rape, assault with a deadly weapon, armed robbery, this really wierd real estate transaction, a couple of homicides, and then some more. Still, it was fully paid, and 1/2 or less my usual workday. ( Plus, I dated a LOT of really cute lawyers out of it). End result, jury duty is a SERVICE for our country, and our way of life. I don’t love it, but I will serve!
And, I will do my BEST to understand what the problems are, and what the legal solutions might be.

re: #94 Floral Giraffe

I got on the “will serve” list somehow. My employer paid for 3 days of service, to me, it was a VACATION! Showed up at 10, 2 hour lunch, dismissed at 3, what’s not to like?

Um, the trials are “what’s not to like”. I had prostitution, rape, assault with a deadly weapon, armed robbery, this really wierd real estate transaction, a couple of homicides, and then some more. Still, it was fully paid, and 1/2 or less my usual workday. ( Plus, I dated a LOT of really cute lawyers out of it). End result, jury duty is a SERVICE for our country, and our way of life. I don’t love it, but I will serve!
And, I will do my BEST to understand what the problems are, and what the legal solutions might be.

The company I’m at now compensates for jury duty, minus the tiny compensation the court provides. Most of my former employers didn’t - you could burn vacation time or take the time unpaid. A law requiring full compensation, or providing it through the courts, would go a long way toward making service more palatable.

I think I’ve mentioned before that a lot of jurors are so pissed off at being inconvenienced that they vote for speed of resolution rather than justice. “Change my vote to go along with the majority so I can get the hell out of here? You bet!” seems to be a common attitude. In the case mentioned above, most of the discussions consisted of “Well, he seemed like such a nice boy on the stand,” without any real consideration of the situation or the scarcity of actual evidence. Once someone pointed out that this was a couple of kids and it was basically a case of one’s word against the other’s, we rapidly progressed to defaulting to an ‘innocent’ verdict, but if that hadn’t come up a lot of people seemed ready to vote based on looks and presentation.

One pissed-off puddy tat.

[Link: video.yahoo.com…]

re: #96 MandyManners

Better.

re: #97 eddiespaghetti

*sigh* How do people spot such things?

re: #98 MandyManners

*sigh* How do people spot such things?

Maybe they were looking for their keys.

re: #98 MandyManners

Genius has many forms…

re: #99 Cannadian Club Akbar

Maybe they were looking for their keys.

Cats eat keys?

But of course:
[Link: thehill.com…]

re: #101 MandyManners

Cats eat keys?

Can you prove they don’t eat keys?
/

re: #102 Taqyia2Me

But of course:
[Link: thehill.com…]

Heaven forbid we take away an Obama re-election mouthpiece.

re: #100 eddiespaghetti

Genius has many forms…

Thnk about it. Did someone see that “image” first and photograph it? Or, did someone take that photograph and then see the “image”? Disturbing implications, either way.

re: #106 MandyManners

True, and icky as well..

re: #103 Cannadian Club Akbar

Can you prove they don’t eat keys?
/

I once had a dog that ate a sock. It came out looonnnggg. I had another dog that ate a fifty-dollar bill.

Oh, I remember one of my cat once at the pipe-cleaner legs attached to his mink spider. He was lucky it didn’t perforate his guts.

re: #108 MandyManners

I worked with a kid who OD’d on Ecstasy and ended up eating $150 before being sent to the hospital. He was OK then, but he is dead now.

re: #109 Cannadian Club Akbar

He actually ate $150 in bills? Denominations? All in $1 bills, or was it 20 benjamins, 4 ten spots & 10 one dolla bills? I am not shocked by the outcome.

re: #110 eddiespaghetti

5 benjamins, sorry.

re: #110 eddiespaghetti

He actually ate $150 in bills? Denominations? All in $1 bills, or was it 20 benjamins, 4 ten spots & 10 one dolla bills? I am not shocked by the outcome.

Not sure of the denominations. That was many years ago. The last time I talked to my old boss he said the dude had Od’d again. The last time he went to the hospital and after he was released he finished the job. Not sure if it was a suicide or accidental.

re: #106 MandyManners

Thnk about it. Did someone see that “image” first and photograph it? Or, did someone take that photograph and then see the “image”? Disturbing implications, either way.

I think it was more like: Someone “saw” the image, took the photograph, but was disappointed when other people failed to “see” the image, and therefore decided to do a little PhotoShopping so that it would be easier to “see.”

(The sleeves are just a bit too perfect, IMO.)

re: #113 Throbert McGee

That’s what I was thinking. Better image there then on the Shroud of Turin.

re: #109 Cannadian Club Akbar

I worked with a kid who OD’d on Ecstasy and ended up eating $150 before being sent to the hospital. He was OK then, but he is dead now.

What finally got him?

re: #114 Cannadian Club Akbar

LMAO, I think it’s legit though, and totally awesome.

re: #115 MandyManners

What finally got him?

He overdosed from drugs. Not sure what he was taking. He liked everything.

re: #113 Throbert McGee

I think it was more like: Someone “saw” the image, took the photograph, but was disappointed when other people failed to “see” the image, and therefore decided to do a little PhotoShopping so that it would be easier to “see.”

(The sleeves are just a bit too perfect, IMO.)

I didn’t look at it that closely.

re: #117 Cannadian Club Akbar

He overdosed from drugs. Not sure what he was taking. He liked everything.

Eclecticism is not always a good thing.

FCBBHO is above Merriam-Webster!

re: #120 MandyManners

FCBBHO is above Merriam-Webster!

?

He actually chastized Stephanopolous for reading the definition of “tax.”

re: #121 Cannadian Club Akbar

FCBBHO claimed that the fine for not gettng health insurace was not a tax.

re: #122 MandyManners

He being ‘the one’?

re: #123 MandyManners

FCBBHO claimed that the fine for not gettng health insurace was not a tax.

I don’t know what he calls it if not a tax. Maybe someone should read him the definition of freedoms.

FCBBHO? Intrigued…

FCBBHO thinks race is cat nip.

Gotta’ get me some of dat.

re: #124 eddiespaghetti

He being ‘the one’?

He’s trying to tell us what is and what is not reality.

re: #128 MandyManners

Agreed, but what does FCBBHO stand for? I consider myself savy, but I am at a loss…

re: #129 eddiespaghetti

Agreed, but what does FCBBHO stand for? I consider myself savy, but I am at a loss…

Fucking Commie Bastard Barack Hussien Obama.

re: #125 Cannadian Club Akbar

I don’t know what he calls it if not a tax. Maybe someone should read him the definition of freedoms.

H’s into positive freedoms and positive liberty, the ones whereby the government is free to do things for you, as opposed to the philosophy of negative liberty upon which our Constitution was founded.

Oops. The Constitution. That flawed thing.

Never mind.

re: #129 eddiespaghetti

Agreed, but what does FCBBHO stand for? I consider myself savy, but I am at a loss…

Fucking Commie Bastard Barak Hussein Obama.

I don’t know but, I’ve been told that Avanti and IceWeasel want me to stop using it.

re: #133 MandyManners

I don’t know but, I’ve been told that Avanti and IceWeasel want me to stop using it.

To bad. It’s your right unless Charles ask you to stop.

Some ultra-liberal professor just caught herself not hawking the party line on Fox. She was talking about why FCBBHO said that ACORN is not the most important issue today. Paraphrasing, she said that we have a melting ecomony and a health care debate…no, a health care crisis.

HA!

re: #136 MandyManners

At least she went on FOX unlike Dear Leader.

“To thine own self be true.”
- Polonius in Hamlet

Polonius was a two-faced backstabber who spouted high-sounding platitudes and then proceeded to act very badly. Eventually he got the shaft. He betrayed his own son as well as the King.

Moral: When receiving advice, always consider the source.
Good Morning LGF.

re: #137 Cannadian Club Akbar

At least she went on FOX unlike Dear Leader.

Oh, for fuck’s sake, She’s just compared ACORN with the CIA, saying that agents who are charged with gathering information in Afghanistan should be held to the same level of accountability of ACORN employees.

I’d say she’s as dumb as a box of rocks but, that would be an insult to rocks.

re: #138 Spare O’Lake

I’ll never think of Polonious without thinking of the Skipper who sang “to thineself be true” in the play the castaways put on for one episode.

re: #139 MandyManners

The military or any law enforcement agency is alway a boogy man to the left.

re: #141 Cannadian Club Akbar

The military or any law enforcement agency is alway a boogy man to the left.

Perhaps because honor and integrity are concepts not built on the shifting sands of relativism.

re: #10 Fenway_Nation

Well…Army actually won this weekend.

/wonders if they’ll be bowl-eligible this year.

Yep, I was there. What a spectacular day. Every September, there’s a run of few days with this glorious late summer weather: cool, crisp and crystal blue skies. And so it was at West Point on Saturday.

We were sitting in the “A Club” section, special seating, and sitting a few seats away from me was a young Lt. with a pretty young woman, I presume his wife. He stood out as a junior officer in this seating area, usually reserved for high ranking officers, etc.

Turns out the Lt. was there to be acknowledged as the 2009 Nininger Award winner. During a 4th Quarter timeout at Michie Stadium, The Lt. was brought out onto the playing field and the public address announcer gave a short summary of his story, and what he did to earn the award.

The entire crowd of 40,000 people gave him a well-deserved standing ovation — and it lasted two minutes. I had the honor of shaking his hand and having a few words with him when he returned to his seat. Numerous generals and other VIP’s crowded around for the remainder of the game.

Lt. Nicholas Eslinger, 2009 Nininger Award Recipient. Here’s his story:
[Link: www.westpointaog.org…]

And oh yes, Army beat Ball State 24-17.

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re: #143 eddiespaghetti

Well, your lucky Sharm is not on your case. Hell hath no furry, JC.

Don’t be mean to Sharmuta.

re: #143 eddiespaghetti

Well, your lucky Sharm is not on your case. Hell hath no furry, JC.

Excuse me?

re: #144 Dad O’ Blondes

It could have turned out very differently. Wow. What a man!

re: #146 Sharmuta

Good morning, Sunshine!

re: #143 eddiespaghetti

Well, your lucky Sharm is not on your case. Hell hath no furry, JC.

Don’t be a twit, she’s magically delicious!

re: #148 MandyManners

Morning, {Mandy}!

I’m gonna’ go get the IV drip going. bbiasec

“Wherefore” actually meaning “why,” etc.

/also good evening

re: #146 Sharmuta

Oh crap, I’m going to bed.

re: #149 Spare O’Lake

In bed.

/mmm.

re: #12 Floral Giraffe

Hello, Late Night Lizards!
(Well, it’s late night in my time zone!)

Keep an eye on the Limbaugh thread, still got “it’s sarcasm” deniers popping up!

Well, I think it was sarcasm.

But… I also think he should have known better.

re: #155 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well, I think it was sarcasm.

But… I also think he should have known better.

I didn’t read it but, has anyone thought to ask Limbaugh if it was sarcasm?

re: #156 MandyManners

I didn’t read it but, has anyone thought to ask Limbaugh if it was sarcasm?

[Link: www.rushlimbaugh.com…]

re: #156 MandyManners

Dunno. He’s being accused of being a total, unrepentant racist.

I just don’t know what’s in his heart.

re: #156 MandyManners

The kid who came to the white kid’s defense was black. It wasn’t a race based attack. The whole sarcasm thing aside- it was race baiting to suggest white kids aren’t safe because of this incident.

re: #157 Cannadian Club Akbar

[Link: www.rushlimbaugh.com…]

I don’t know what to make of it.

BTW, I have a recollection that it was Pelosi who started the “Nazi” thing, claiming that there were posters depicting FCBBHO as Hitler before there actually were such posters.

Sorry for starting it back up. Good morning y’all.

re: #159 Sharmuta

The kid who came to the white kid’s defense was black. It wasn’t a race based attack. The whole sarcasm thing aside- it was race baiting to suggest white kids aren’t safe because of this incident.

Correct about the kid coming to help. The 2 doing the beating were charged as juviniles.[Link: www.stltoday.com…]

re: #144 Dad O’ Blondes

Ooooh! Cool! Thanks.

Those sumbitches are bad, ain’t they?

re: #159 Sharmuta

The kid who came to the white kid’s defense was black. It wasn’t a race based attack. The whole sarcasm thing aside- it was race baiting to suggest white kids aren’t safe because of this incident.

Why in the world aren’t monitors placed on busses? Surely volunteers could be found to give up X amount time daily to sit on the bus and keep an eye on things. Those kids are in the custody of the state the moment they step onto the bus and they need a safe environment. Ah, gee. Reason No. 305 that The Kid is in private school. The school has some busses for students who live 50+ miles away but some parents deal with it by having two homes, one near the school, mostly those who live 75 miles away or more.

Oops. Sorry. Didn’t intend for that to come out as a personal rant.

re: #160 MandyManners

It’s my opinion kids are going to be as safe in school from little jerks wanting to beat them up as they were last week, last month, last year. It’s not right- but it happens. For this to get hyped up by national pundits as a racial incident is a stretch and reeks of agenda. My 2 cents.

re: #162 Cannadian Club Akbar

I’m glad there is some punishment involved. Serves them right.

re: #158 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Dunno. He’s being accused of being a total, unrepentant racist.

I just don’t know what’s in his heart.

He’s neve, ever struck me as such and I have a rather keen racism detector. But, I could be wrong. I sometimes am.

re: #162 Cannadian Club Akbar

Correct about the kid coming to help. The 2 doing the beating were charged as juviniles.[Link: www.stltoday.com…]

What passes for a routine assault looked close to attempted murder to me - repeatedly pummelling a defenseless kid in the head.
They should be charged as adults.

Bill Clinton is giving a speech in Sarasota next week and the organizers of the event are worried because it hasn’t sold out yet. D’oh!!!

re: #169 Cannadian Club Akbar

Ever since Obama became President, Bill Clinton has been sooo~ 20th Century.

re: #168 Spare O’Lake

They are to young. But I agree.

brb dinnar.

re: #159 Sharmuta

The kid who came to the white kid’s defense was black. It wasn’t a race based attack. The whole sarcasm thing aside- it was race baiting to suggest white kids aren’t safe because of this incident.

If he was being srcastic, was there any race-baiting?

One way to shut down race-baiters in real life is this: when a suspicious statement is made, feign puzzlement and ask the person to clarify. If she/he does and makes a more blatant racist statement, arch our eyebrows, adopt a frosty tone and say, “My, what an interesting assumption” and then turn your back.

Or, you can do what I’ve done before and ask if Jesus came to save us all or just the white folks and if the former, why in the world would we try to put ourselves above Christ.

(You is in the third-person here.)

re: #166 Sharmuta

It’s my opinion kids are going to be as safe in school from little jerks wanting to beat them up as they were last week, last month, last year. It’s not right- but it happens. For this to get hyped up by national pundits as a racial incident is a stretch and reeks of agenda. My 2 cents.

re: #162 Cannadian Club Akbar

I’m glad there is some punishment involved. Serves them right.

There is a difference between “normal” bullying and that which rises to the level of physical violence. Kids need to be taught how to

Oh, I’m getting pissed off. bbiab ^%&^%$$#%^&^

re: #159 Sharmuta

The kid who came to the white kid’s defense was black. It wasn’t a race based attack.

Sorry, but I don’t think the first necessarily follows from the second.
I’m not saying that it was or was not racially motivated, but just because a black kid tried to end the pummeling does not mean that the perp was not racially motivated.

re: #174 MandyManners

I get pissed too. I understand. I would have you go read the thread though- watch the video, read what others thought, and form your own conclusions.

re: #175 Spare O’Lake

The investigation concluded it wasn’t racially motivated.

re: #177 Sharmuta

The investigation concluded it wasn’t racially motivated.

Did the investigation ascribe any particular motives to the perpetrators?

It would have been much simpler for the school authorities had the pummeled kid made some effort to defend himself. Then the attacked kid could have been expelled too, under ‘zero tolerance’. He didn’t, so that out wasn’t available.

Interestingly enough, once I began driving to school my younger brothers decided that they would rather continue riding the bus. Said there weren’t as many rules on the bus as in my car.

re: #177 Sharmuta

Shar… when I was in school, I was beaten up a few times because I was white and because they were stronger and bigger than me.

Is that racial?…or bullying.

Other small black kids weren’t attacked on those occasions.

Anybody out there been in that kids situation? I have. To say it is not racial… is just a little beyond me.

I was picked on by white kids too, but, because I was small.

I also survived a race riot at my high school where they had to shut it down for three days… big black kids went hunting for small white kids… racial violence does exist.

BELLEVILLE, IL (KMOX News) — Investigators , looking into a beating on a Belleville West High School bus now say it does not appear to have been racially motivated and it may have been just an argument over seating on the bus.

Belleville Police spokesman Captain Don Sax said “it’s looking more and more like a case of a couple bullies deciding where kids are going to sit on the bus.”

Captain Sax said an earlier statement that the beating may have been racially motivated was premature.

It’s still up to the State’s Attorney’s office to decide what, if any charges will be filed.
[Link: www.kmox.com…]

re: #181 Spare O’Lake

I wonder how hard investigators were lobbied by mayors town councils (etc) to get a “It wasn’t racism” label attached…

Sorry, I just don’t buy it.

Just a quick drive-by on my way to work. I haven’t listened to Limbaugh in a long time but catch him on ond off. He doesn’t strike me as a racist and while I think his brand of satire in that situation was completely uncalled for and was “race baiting”, I don’t believe he harbors any ill will towards black people or any other race for that matter. When Limbaugh makes statements that could be constrewed as legitimately racist, the MSM is all over him like stink on a monkey. I’m not a fan of Limbaugh because I see him as heading slowly down Beck insanity lane. With all that being said, I really think that if we are going to jump on Limbaugh for this, we should be just as apt to pile on Sharpton and Jackson etc. when they are obviously “race baiting”. I appreciate Charles calling a spade a spade and as always, the comments have been very informative. Have a great week all.

re: #177 Sharmuta

The investigation concluded it wasn’t racially motivated.

Then why in the world did the sheriff speak out of turn in the first place?! Very irresponsible.

re: #180 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Shar… when I was in school, I was beaten up a few times because I was white and because they were stronger and bigger than me.

Is that racial?…or bullying.

Other small black kids weren’t attacked on those occasions.

Anybody out there been in that kids situation? I have. To say it is not racial… is just a little beyond me.

I was picked on by white kids too, but, because I was small.

I also survived a race riot at my high school where they had to shut it down for three days… big black kids went hunting for small white kids… racial violence does exist.

It can be both racist and bullying—the two are not mutually exclusive.

re: #180 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

When I was in school, I once got roughed up by some boys, but it wasn’t gender related. I had said something in class they didn’t like.

After that, my father taught me how to punch (again) and the next time a boy tried to rough me up, I gave him a bloody nose. The next time I was roughed up, it was a girl, and she was pretty surprised I wouldn’t take her shit, so she tried a second time a few days later. Her attack was likely more due to misogyny than the boys, imo.

Kids can and do beat each other up for these things, and other things just as much. It doesn’t change the fact that it’s out of line to suggest white kids aren’t safe in this country because of the President. That’s straight up fear mongering using kids as emotional tools like that.

[Incidentally- I later ran into one of the boys from the first attack when we were in college. He apologized to me, and took me out for a drink.]

re: #184 MandyManners

Then why in the world did the sheriff speak out of turn in the first place?! Very irresponsible.

Why is Rush throwing fuel on this fire?

re: #186 Sharmuta

A guy once threw me into a table in the 11th grade, I came back at him with a steel fork. Unfortunately he turned the tables on that too and I got punched out.

I was the one that ended up getting expelled. Technically it’s “withdrawn” but I went to one of the best private schools in the country, and they don’t want the hoi polloi mixing.

re: #186 Sharmuta

When I was in school, I once got roughed up by some boys, but it wasn’t gender related. I had said something in class they didn’t like.

After that, my father taught me how to punch (again) and the next time a boy tried to rough me up, I gave him a bloody nose. The next time I was roughed up, it was a girl, and she was pretty surprised I wouldn’t take her shit, so she tried a second time a few days later. Her attack was likely more due to misogyny than the boys, imo.

Kids can and do beat each other up for these things, and other things just as much. It doesn’t change the fact that it’s out of line to suggest white kids aren’t safe in this country because of the President. That’s straight up fear mongering using kids as emotional tools like that.

[Incidentally- I later ran into one of the boys from the first attack when we were in college. He apologized to me, and took me out for a drink.]

Misogyny or girl-bullying, trying to put you under herserlf in her pecking order?

re: #182 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I wonder how hard investigators were lobbied by mayors town councils (etc) to get a “It wasn’t racism” label attached…

Sorry, I just don’t buy it.

Does anyone find it ironic that they are denying that it was racially motivated, saying instead that it was more a case of BULLIES TELLING A KID THAT HE COULD NOT SIT IN WHATEVER EMPTY FUCKING SEAT HE WANTED?
I can’t help but wonder if perhaps they wanted him to sit at the back of the bus.
…the “investigation” continues?

re: #187 Sharmuta

Why is Rush throwing fuel on this fire?

Wasn’t it flaming already?

re: #186 Sharmuta

When I was a kid a boy got beat up and his father went to the house of the kid who did the beating. The father answered the door and the father of the kid that was beat up said “your son beat up my son.” The guy replied that he only had a daughter. Heh.

re: #189 MandyManners

Misogyny or girl-bullying, trying to put you under herserlf in her pecking order?

Absolutely.

re: #191 MandyManners

Wasn’t it flaming already?

Yes- by the likes of vdare supporting Michelle Malkin and other bloggers.

It was unacknowledged policy in my small school for fighting kids to be put in boxing gloves and allowed to fight it out during gym class.

My turn came, as it would given that I graduated standing 5’8” and weighing 118 pounds (pretty good stats for a supermodel, but not for a young man). I refused to wear gloves, and stated that my intention was to get my hands on the opponent and dislocate his shoulders and bust up his knees.

It was decided that sincere apologies were in order, instead.

re: #190 Spare O’Lake

When I was in school; (YES! THEY HAD BUSSES THEN!) the back of the bus was where the cool kids sat, anyway.

I’m reminded of the little boys at the park a while back who taunted The Kid for being white and who refused to give me his football, one opting instead to call me a “white cracker bitch”. He’s young enough to be merely parrotting what he’s heard at home.

At what age are kids to be held responsible for their words?

re: #192 Cannadian Club Akbar

When I was a kid a boy got beat up and his father went to the house of the kid who did the beating. The father answered the door and the father of the kid that was beat up said “your son beat up my son.” The guy replied that he only had a daughter. Heh.

Some Dads know Baby Girl’s got to protect herself. LOL

re: #195 razorbacker

I graduated about the same size as you. My high school had 2,000 students. The average height on the JV basketball team was 6’7” that year.

I felt like a woodland creature among the trees when I was there.

re: #198 Sharmuta

Some Dads know Baby Girl’s got to protect herself. LOL

The kid who got the beating might have gotten another when his dad found out exactly what happened.

My dinger ain’t working… bunch of dings I want to give!

…(in bed)

re: #201 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Refresh the page.

re: #193 Sharmuta

Absolutely.

Girls tend to be more subtle and nuanced in setting up their pecking orders, and more cruel. Boys typically have such venues as sports, which are sublimated violence, to set up their hierarchy.

re: #201 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My dinger ain’t working… bunch of dings I want to give!

…(in bed)

I have a great joke to put here, but I won’t.

re: #194 Sharmuta

Yes- by the likes of vdare supporting Michelle Malkin and other bloggers.

I still cannot wrap my mind around her de-linking Charles and then linking VDARE. Shades of AS.

re: #195 razorbacker

It was unacknowledged policy in my small school for fighting kids to be put in boxing gloves and allowed to fight it out during gym class.

My turn came, as it would given that I graduated standing 5’8” and weighing 118 pounds (pretty good stats for a supermodel, but not for a young man). I refused to wear gloves, and stated that my intention was to get my hands on the opponent and dislocate his shoulders and bust up his knees.

It was decided that sincere apologies were in order, instead.

Were you ever messed with again?

re: #206 MandyManners

Were you ever messed with again?

Shit, I’m guessing no…

re: #196 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

When I was in school; (YES! THEY HAD BUSSES THEN!) the back of the bus was where the cool kids sat, anyway.

That’s where we pot-smokers sat on our band’s trips out of town.

re: #199 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I graduated about the same size as you. My high school had 2,000 students. The average height on the JV basketball team was 6’7” that year.

I felt like a woodland creature among the trees when I was there.

My town only had 2100 people, so the school was somewhat smaller. While I was short and slight, I had the advantage of a lifetime spend pulling wrenches, lifting fishing nets, and processing game and domestic animals. Good grip, and excellent knowledge of how the body’s joints went together.

I was seldom bullied. It helped, no doubt, that I ran with the bully-boy crowd and had some experience in physical combat outside the school environment.

re: #203 MandyManners

Girls tend to be more subtle and nuanced in setting up their pecking orders, and more cruel. Boys typically have such venues as sports, which are sublimated violence, to set up their hierarchy.

There are pecking orders within pecking orders. Some racially related, some gang-related, and some just innocent kids being kids.

re: #197 MandyManners

You know I don’t think that crap is cool. But it’s still odd this one incident would be worthy of national attention by right wing bloggers connected to sites like vdare. What the hell is going on that Rush needs to discuss this, and use it like he did? Stinks.

re: #208 MandyManners

That’s where we pot-smokers sat on our band’s trips out of town.

Band camp?
/

re: #203 MandyManners

Girls tend to be more subtle and nuanced in setting up their pecking orders, and more cruel. Boys typically have such venues as sports, which are sublimated violence, to set up their hierarchy.

You should check out Phyllis Chesler’s Woman’s Inhumanity to Woman.

re: #211 Sharmuta

You know I don’t think that crap is cool. But it’s still odd this one incident would be worthy of national attention by right wing bloggers connected to sites like vdare. What the hell is going on that Rush needs to discuss this, and use it like he did? Stinks.

Must be his idea of the much-awaited national conversation on race./

re: #210 Spare O’Lake

There are pecking orders within pecking orders. Some racially related, some gang-related, and some just innocent kids being kids.

While I had a few close friends, I preferred hanging out with boys in high school.

re: #213 Sharmuta

You should check out Phyllis Chesler’s Woman’s Inhumanity to Woman.

The girl vs. girl fights in high skool were always better then the guys.

re: #211 Sharmuta

You know I don’t think that crap is cool. But it’s still odd this one incident would be worthy of national attention by right wing bloggers connected to sites like vdare. What the hell is going on that Rush needs to discuss this, and use it like he did? Stinks.

Is there any chance Rush sought to mock VDARE and its ilk?

re: #206 MandyManners

Were you ever messed with again?

Young men fight. That’s just the way that it was. I doubt that it has changed too terribly much in the decades past.

Oddly enough, though firearms were always available (see past posts regarding guns on school campus during hunting seasons) guns were never used to settle fights.

re: #212 Cannadian Club Akbar

Band camp?
/

Out-of-town games and out-of-state competitions. Our mommies took us to camp. (Oh, I hated that week—it was always in late July/early August in Tennessee. Heat and humidity. Oh, my. I’m getting sticky just remembering it.)

re: #213 Sharmuta

You should check out Phyllis Chesler’s Woman’s Inhumanity to Woman.

It’s on my to-read list but, I think I’ve picked a lot of her thinking throughout other endeavors.

re: #218 razorbacker

Young men fight. That’s just the way that it was. I doubt that it has changed too terribly much in the decades past.

Oddly enough, though firearms were always available (see past posts regarding guns on school campus during hunting seasons) guns were never used to settle fights.

In some circles, drive-bys rule.

Some banned lizard posted crap on my blog, bashing Charles, when he knew that it was Rosh Hashanah and I could not delete blog comments. It’s gone now.

re: #221 MandyManners

In some circles, drive-bys rule.

So I hear. You would have been known as a weak sister indeed, had you needed to settle arguments with a gun.

But, times change, I reckon.

re: #217 MandyManners

Is there any chance Rush sought to mock VDARE and its ilk?

No.

re: #220 MandyManners

It’s on my to-read list but, I think I’ve picked a lot of her thinking throughout other endeavors.

I’m sure you have, Hon. I still think you’d really like it, and I’m glad it’s on your reading list. :)

re: #222 Alouette

Happy New Year, my friend…

re: #222 Alouette

See why I don’t go to other sites?

re: #222 Alouette

Some banned lizard posted crap on my blog, bashing Charles, when he knew that it was Rosh Hashanah and I could not delete blog comments. It’s gone now.

IIRC the Arabs tried something like that in 1973./

Trying to explain to The Kid why he shouldn’t hit back when girls hit him was a struggle. One idea was that boys were sronger than girls. “BUT, MOM, YOU SAW HOW BIG SAMANTHA IS!” I can’t remember the other stuff I said but, it boiled down to “Because I said so” and “Come get me immediately if you get into another fight with a girl”.

I do remember planting a “toy” ho* in one boy’s head for bugging the ever-loving snot outta’ me. He steered a wide path around me after that.

*This was back when toy tools had metal parts.

re: #222 Alouette

Some banned lizard posted crap on my blog, bashing Charles, when he knew that it was Rosh Hashanah and I could not delete blog comments. It’s gone now.

Charles probably has a callous on his delete finger after this weekend.

re: #222 Alouette

Some banned lizard posted crap on my blog, bashing Charles, when he knew that it was Rosh Hashanah and I could not delete blog comments. It’s gone now.

Now, that’s the very definition of “chicken-shit.”

Well, that’s most of my hour today.

I’d best get stirring and begin the day.

Got a small trip planned for this week, so I’ll be gone for a bit.

‘Bye.

re: #223 razorbacker

So I hear. You would have been known as a weak sister indeed, had you needed to settle arguments with a gun.

But, times change, I reckon.

It’s a different culture.

Gotta’ go drag someone outta’ bed.

We’ve hit 9 on the Grumble Scale.

re: #222 Alouette

Some banned lizard posted crap on my blog, bashing Charles, when he knew that it was Rosh Hashanah and I could not delete blog comments. It’s gone now.

You rock, Alouette. Happy New Year to you and yours.

re: #234 MandyManners

We’ve hit 9 on the Grumble Scale.

Sounds like my house. Just got back from a mini-vacation for my first wedding anniversary. Getting out of bed at 6:00 this AM was _not_ what I had in mind.

CNN MADE ME DO IT!

re: #236 thedopefishlives

Sounds like my house. Just got back from a mini-vacation for my first wedding anniversary. Getting out of bed at 6:00 this AM was _not_ what I had in mind.

Heck, I’ve been up for three hours.

re: #238 MandyManners

Heck, I’ve been up for three hours.

Oh, I’ve been up for over an hour now. But compared to relaxing in a hotel room, this bites the big one.

re: #238 MandyManners

Heck, I’ve been up for three hours.

I’ve been up for ten hours. Of course I am on Israel time. :)

Good morning, Lizards! How is life?

A friend of mine sent me this cartoon from 1934. Rather telling!

What’s been going on that folks have been deleted? I’ve been out of the loop with limited internets.

re: #242 songbird

What’s been going on that folks have been deleted? I’ve been out of the loop with limited internets.

They chose to flounce.

re: #242 songbird

Since your internets got limited… they have lost their will to live and jumped off of the Tallahatchee Bridge…

Romney just said that Jimmy Carter is losing touch.

re: #244 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Since your internets got limited… they have lost their will to live and jumped off of the Tallahatchee Bridge…

I’m…flattered?

Fox is playing the Stephanopolous tape in which he whipped out the dictionary to read a definition of tax and FCBBHO chastized him.

Things are not what they are. They are what FCBBHO says they are.

re: #246 songbird

teehee…

re: #241 songbird

There weren’t any regulations to prevent that sort of thing from happening, and the only thing that ended up saving the economy was the war. Huh.

re: #248 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

teehee…

BTW, we did make it to the Hard Times Cafe in Frederick you recommended.
Decent Chili, nice atmosphere. I like the vegetarian chili best as I like a sweeter chili. They even opened up one in Hagerstown.

re: #239 thedopefishlives

Oh, I’ve been up for over an hour now. But compared to relaxing in a hotel room, this bites the big one.

Just about anything bites the big one in comparison to kicking back in a hotel room.

re: #246 songbird

Nah, people are just too stupid to delete LGF from their favorites and go away… Charles has turned into an Obama supporting, Beck hating, Liberal embracing, Christian despising, Radical loving, Islamic Jihad abiding, etc… and they want to go away, but they think they have to tell us.

re: #241 songbird

Good morning, Lizards! How is life?

A friend of mine sent me this cartoon from 1934. Rather telling!

Plus ça change, plus c’ést la même chose.

re: #240 Alouette

I’ve been up for ten hours. Of course I am on Israel time. :)

Whatever happened to American Jewess in Israel? I’ve not seen her for ages and ages.

Gotta’ git.

re: #250 songbird

Love their vegetarian chili. I buy the mix when I am there and take it home and make it myself. $3.50 a pack. Sweet!

re: #253 Alouette

“The more things change, the more they stay the same?”

/pardon my English

re: #249 laZardo

There weren’t any regulations to prevent that sort of thing from happening, and the only thing that ended up saving the economy was the war. Huh.

Unfortunately, Congress is working within ‘regulations’ as they enjoy spending our hard earned money.

Mr. Songbird and I are very concerned about the wisdom (or lack thereof) of Congress and our President as this year progresses.