Hilarious Rush Limbaugh Post of the Day

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Today’s jaw-dropping, insanely over the top exercise in Rush Limbaugh idolization is from redstate.com: Tonight … We Are All Rush Limbaugh.

Includes the ubiquitous Martin Niemöller quote (no right wing rant is complete without it) because as we all know, dropping a super-rich race-baiting far right radio host from a team of investors is exactly like the Holocaust.

Earlier this evening, as most of you now know, one of our own, Rush Hudson Limbaugh, while taking withering fire, crashed and burned.

Tonight, Rush is no longer ‘just’ a radio personality.

Tonight, Rush is no longer ‘just’ a NFL owner denied

Tonight, Rush is us. And we are him.

Tonight Rush became the metaphor for all of us … every man woman and child in this great nation of ours.

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1 Baier  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:44:10am

/Tonight, Rush is us. And we are all overtly racist.

/It must be hard to be rich white man in the country. He needs our support!

2 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:44:12am

"Tonight, Rush is us. And we are him.

Tonight Rush became the metaphor for all of us ... every man woman and child in this great nation of ours."

Does this mean I have to start abusing oxycontin?

3 Kragar  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:44:12am

To Redstate and others:

Grow the fuck up for Christ's sake.

4 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:44:27am

Newsflash for Red State, Rush is not me, nor does he represent me in any way, shape, or form. He's a washed up dj now playing ignorant radio show host.

5 What, me worry?  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:44:43am

Why was the Left criticized and called unpatriotic when they called the Right the enemy, but it seems just fine for the Right to call the Left the enemy? Does that make the Right unpatriotic too?

I thought we were all Americans. I must have been wrong.

6 Kragar  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:44:50am

re: #2 Guanxi88

"Tonight, Rush is us. And we are him.

Tonight Rush became the metaphor for all of us ... every man woman and child in this great nation of ours."

Does this mean I have to start abusing oxycontin?

And I hate playing golf and smoking cigars.

7 Ojoe  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:45:22am

I am Ojoe. None other. Sorry guys.

8 What, me worry?  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:46:16am

They came for Rush...

it's about freaking time!

9 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:46:36am

Does that mean I get to partake in his 400 + million dollar contract?

Didn't think so...

10 nutz4Tuna  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:46:45am

re: #8 marjoriemoon

They came for Rush...

it's about freaking time!

Let's hope they come for Glenn Beck next.

11 bofhell  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:47:18am

Never was a dittohead

Not a dittohead

Not gonna become a dittohead.

12 Ojoe  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:47:24am

The crashed & burned line is an insult to the people who actually flew, and fly, combat.

13 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:47:44am

I can't be Rush Limbaugh, my multiple personality queue is full.

14 lurking faith  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:47:51am

I'm Spartacus.

I am not, nor will I ever be, Rush Limbaugh.

/full disclosure: I used to find his show entertaining and sometimes interesting, years ago

15 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:47:52am

re: #10 nutz4Tuna

Let's hope they come for Glenn Beck next.

Butterfly nets and long-sleeved coats.

16 Athos  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:47:53am

re: #3 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

To Redstate and others:

Grow the fuck up for Christ's sake.

Pretty much says it all.

17 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:48:00am

re: #9 Oh no...Sand People!

Does that mean I get to partake in his 400 + million dollar contract?

Didn't think so...

The capitalist in me wouldn't allow it either, unless I had something to offer in return...well, technically if he wanted to backpay me for all those hours I gave him. I can put my rates to be 'confiscatory rates'...kind of like the ones he charges his advertisers.

18 Baier  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:48:08am

/Tonight we are all spoiled rich white men that think the things we say have no recourse. This is American gol-darn-it.

19 Baier  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:48:35am

re: #11 bofhell

Never was a dittohead

Not a dittohead

Not gonna become a dittohead.

ditto

20 Spider Mensch  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:49:46am

I heard on the sport talk radio at lunch that now that Rush isn't under consideration as a part owner of the St Louis rams, Checketts, the guy getting th eproposed buyer group together, has replaced rush with...get ready for this...George Soros...lol!!..now there is a 180 if I ever saw one...lol

21 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:49:55am
Includes the ubiquitous Martin Niemöller quote (no right wing rant is complete without it) because as we all know, dropping a bigoted race-baiting far right radio host from a team of investors is exactly like the Holocaust.

How quickly the shoe goes on the other foot. There was a time that using such comparisons was considered contemptible. This has always been considered offensive to the victims of the Holocaust to be used in such a base manner at LGF, but apparently those who feigned outrage at such things from the left for years, now have no problem doing so when it suits their needs. Disgusting.

22 Linden Arden  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:50:24am

"Rush Limbaugh’s Lip Meets Soros Cash in NFL Bid: Scott Soshnick " (Bloomberg)

Your text to link...

Oh, what a scandal we have in development!

Wait till RedState heads explode when (or if) it is revealed that Mr. Soros outplayed Mr. Limbaugh.

23 drcordell  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:50:44am

HAhahahahahhaha watching all of the peasants at Red State genuinely pity a man who routinely flies over their hovels in his Gulfstream is just too rich. The guy is "elite" in every sense of the word, yet they still hang on his every word as he spews populist drivel. The guy spends half his time living in Manhattan for Christ sakes. I think he'd rather die than live in the deep south. (no, Palm Beach doesn't count as the south).

24 bofhell  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:51:08am

re: #20 Spider Mensch

I heard on the sport talk radio at lunch that now that Rush isn't under consideration as a part owner of the St Louis rams, Checketts, the guy getting th eproposed buyer group together, has replaced rush with...get ready for this...George Soros...lol!!..now there is a 180 if I ever saw one...lol

Irony aside, this is about money, not politics. Soros or Limbaugh want to throw their money at professional sports? Fine by me.

25 Four More Tears  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:51:38am
Tonight Rush became the metaphor for all of us ... every man woman and child in this great nation of ours.

*plays world's tiniest violin*

People are losing jobs, homes and insurance, but this is the person who gets your sympathy? Oh FFS.

26 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:51:42am

I think someone needs to get a firm grip and maybe an appointment with a good shrink.

27 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:52:45am

re: #11 bofhell

Never was a dittohead

Not a dittohead

Not gonna become a dittohead.

He lost me ages ago with his vitriolic venom about "femi-nazis".

28 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:53:41am

re: #23 drcordell

HAhahahahahhaha watching all of the peasants at Red State genuinely pity a man who routinely flies over their hovels in his Gulfstream is just too rich. The guy is "elite" in every sense of the word, yet they still hang on his every word as he spews populist drivel. The guy spends half his time living in Manhattan for Christ sakes. I think he'd rather die than live in the deep south. (no, Palm Beach doesn't count as the south).

doc, I don't see eye-to-eye with you on a lot, but you hit the nail on the head, drove it through the board, and then cinched it over on the other side with that one.

29 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:53:56am

re: #5 marjoriemoon

Why was the Left criticized and called unpatriotic when they called the Right the enemy, but it seems just fine for the Right to call the Left the enemy? Does that make the Right unpatriotic too?

I thought we were all Americans. I must have been wrong.

Each side considers it their duty to sink the other side's end of the boat.

30 PAUL_MACDONALD  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:54:17am

When does my 3 hours a day on AM radio start? I'm certain I can do 3 hours of factually deprived talk radio with insults to whomever calls in.

Of course, on the upside, Limbaugh might decide to "Go Galt" and withhold his labour from us...

31 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:54:51am

re: #23 drcordell

HAhahahahahhaha watching all of the peasants at Red State genuinely pity a man who routinely flies over their hovels in his Gulfstream is just too rich. The guy is "elite" in every sense of the word, yet they still hang on his every word as he spews populist drivel. The guy spends half his time living in Manhattan for Christ sakes. I think he'd rather die than live in the deep south. (no, Palm Beach doesn't count as the south).

Stop the presses! I just up-dinged you.

32 Kragar  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:55:09am

A new song for the GOP and Rushbots:

Youtube Video
33 Four More Tears  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:55:17am

Interesting how Erickson fails to mention that Rush was dropped by his own partners.

34 nutz4Tuna  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:55:52am

re: #30 PAUL_MACDONALD

When does my 3 hours a day on AM radio start? I'm certain I can do 3 hours of factually deprived talk radio with insults to whomever calls in.

Of course, on the upside, Limbaugh might decide to "Go Galt" and withhold his labour from us...

Oh no! What ever would we do then?

/s

35 abbyadams  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:56:35am

Count this as another day when I come here, read your comments, and have hope for a true conservative movement.

37 Joe G.  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:56:43am

I like how the author keeps using the phrase "withering fire." Do you think he owns a lot of Games Workshop products?

38 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:56:52am

As for the Niemoller quote, here's my favorite spoof of it, from the former National Review essayist Florence King:

The Nanny State soon will need a cautionary tale, so I have written one for them:

When they came for the smokers I kept silent because I don't smoke.
When they came for the meat eaters I kept silent because I'm a vegetarian.
When they came for the gun owners I kept silent because I'm a pacifist.
When they came for the drivers I kept silent because I'm a bicyclist.

They never did come for me. I'm still here because there's nobody left in the secret police except sissies with rickets.

39 Kragar  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:57:15am

re: #37 Joe G.

I like how the author keeps using the phrase "withering fire." Do you think he owns a lot of Games Workshop products?

HEY NOW!

40 jaunte  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:57:37am
We all have our dreams in life… such as they might be. Rush dreamed of being an owner in the NFL. Tonight the left proved that they will stop at nothing to end our dreams.


He.
Heh.
Bwaahahaha!

41 astronmr20  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:57:48am

I hope everyone realizes that Rush is lapping this up.

Not just the adulation from his fans-- but the "negative" publicity from his failed "bid."

42 affenkopf  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:57:51am

Tonight Rush became the metaphor for all of us ... every man woman and child in this great nation of ours.

Expert African-Americans and and anybody who isn't white and whites who don't agree with his politics and non-Christians and Christians who aren't theocons.

Yes Rush is truly a metaphor for all Americans.

43 Irish Rose  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:58:25am

BBL folks, have a good one.

44 CommonCents  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:58:39am

re: #22 Linden Arden

"Rush Limbaugh’s Lip Meets Soros Cash in NFL Bid: Scott Soshnick " (Bloomberg)

Your text to link...

Oh, what a scandal we have in development!

Wait till RedState heads explode when (or if) it is revealed that Mr. Soros outplayed Mr. Limbaugh.

Well that settles it. I'll never play for the St. Louis Rams!

45 Four More Tears  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:58:43am

re: #37 Joe G.

I like how the author keeps using the phrase "withering fire." Do you think he owns a lot of Games Workshop products?

When they came for the Space Marines I kept silent...

46 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:58:49am

Pretty much every thread at Hot Air is turning into an LGF-bashing session today. They really don't like having their extremism and bigotry exposed.

47 nutz4Tuna  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:59:08am

re: #38 The Sanity Inspector

As for the Niemoller quote, here's my favorite spoof of it, from the former National Review essayist Florence King:

I'm still here because there's nobody left in the secret police except sissies with rickets.

Greatest band name ever.

48 Kragar  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:59:47am

re: #45 JasonA

When they came for the Space Marines I kept silent...

You can have my Astartes when you pry them from my cold, paint speckled, crazy glued together fingers!

49 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:00:03am

Please put "We are all..." in the LGF preview cliche filter.

50 Buck  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:01:05am

I just don't think it is right for people to make up quotes, and distort quotes to label this guy a racist.

He didn't say the slavery thing, he didn't say the hold up liquor store thing. The didn't compare Black players to Blood and Crips...

He did say the McNabb thing, but it does not seem so incredibly bad that he should be slandered, liabled, and harassed like this.

The guy hates Obama, sure. But he would hate any Democrat in that position. He hated Clinton with a passion.

51 nutz4Tuna  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:01:32am

re: #50 Buck

I just don't think it is right for people to make up quotes, and distort quotes to label this guy a racist.

He didn't say the slavery thing, he didn't say the hold up liquor store thing. The didn't compare Black players to Blood and Crips...

He did say the McNabb thing, but it does not seem so incredibly bad that he should be slandered, liabled, and harassed like this.

The guy hates Obama, sure. But he would hate any Democrat in that position. He hated Clinton with a passion.

And your point is?

52 MinisterO  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:01:45am

...as we all know, dropping a super-rich race-baiting far right radio host from a team of investors is exactly like the Holocaust.

Even a simple cave man knows... The outrage seems perfectly sensible when you put it like that.

Oh teh stupid it burns!

53 What, me worry?  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:02:48am

re: #29 The Sanity Inspector

Each side considers it their duty to sink the other side's end of the boat.

Not me. Never me. I've been coming here for 8 years. When liberal surely wasn't cool. When I was called every name in the book, but I endured it because I wanted to know more about Republicans. I never thought they weren't Americans or the enemy.

A new girl just started in my office. She's from Panama. Been here 3 months and is working on her citizenship. She was amazed that we are all so friendly and kind. Maybe she heard bad things about us.

New Americans have a broader view. Most often, they've seen enslavement in one form or another and are ecstatic to have made it here and to have the opportunity to be American.

54 CommonCents  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:02:55am

re: #50 Buck

I just don't think it is right for people to make up quotes, and distort quotes to label this guy a racist.

He didn't say the slavery thing, he didn't say the hold up liquor store thing. The didn't compare Black players to Blood and Crips...

He did say the McNabb thing, but it does not seem so incredibly bad that he should be slandered, liabled, and harassed like this.

The guy hates Obama, sure. But he would hate any Democrat in that position. He hated Clinton with a passion.

He hates white people too. He's on the right, therefore he is a hater. Seems to be the prevailing winds. I hate it, and I'm on the right. Go figure.

55 jeff in ohio  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:04:07am

Who'd a thought the NFL would have higher standards then the GOP.

56 jaunte  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:04:42am

re: #2 Guanxi88

"Tonight, Rush is us. And we are him.

Tonight Rush became the metaphor for all of us ... every man woman and child in this great nation of ours."

Does this mean I have to start abusing oxycontin?

I have most of a bottle left that I can give you. It was worse than pain.

57 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:05:01am

It was a business decision, pure and simple. The executives of the Free Market-driven NFL decided that Rush Limbaugh as a team shareholder would be bad for business. Bottom line. Shareholder value.

This is Rush's vaunted Free Market operating at its best!!! Do we need government meddling to fix things for him?

And when they came for the bloated, drug-addled radio hate merchants, I said nothing because I was too busy living high off the hog on my government entitlements...

58 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:05:45am

re: #50 Buck

I just don't think it is right for people to make up quotes, and distort quotes to label this guy a racist.

He didn't say the slavery thing, he didn't say the hold up liquor store thing. The didn't compare Black players to Blood and Crips...

He did say the McNabb thing, but it does not seem so incredibly bad that he should be slandered, liabled, and harassed like this.

The guy hates Obama, sure. But he would hate any Democrat in that position. He hated Clinton with a passion.

Verified quotes:

Rush Limbaugh - Wikiquote

Take that bone out of your nose and call me back.

Response to a black caller he was having a hard time understanding in the 1970s when he worked under the name "Jeff Christie" on a top-40 music program in Pittsburgh, as quoted in Newsday (8 October 1990) where he expresses some remorse at having said it; also in The Way Things Aren't : Rush Limbaugh's Reign of Error (1995) by Steve Rendall, Jim Naureckas, and Jeff Cohen [ISBN 156584260X] , and "Bone Voyage" at Snopes.com (4 September 2007)

The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well.

As quoted in "Dittohead Blues" in the LA Weekly (9 October 2003)

Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.

As quoted in "Hey Rush, when it comes to sports ... shhh!" by Mike Freeman at CBS SportsLine (27 January 2007)

And his most recent blatant race-baiting comment:

Obama's America: white kids getting beat up on school buses. You put your kids on a school bus, you expect safety, but in Obama's America, white kids now get beat up, with the black kids cheering, "Yeah! Right on! Right on!"

Sorry, but there are plenty of VERY REAL reasons to call Limbaugh a race-baiting bigot.

59 Yashmak  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:05:45am

Should anyone doubt the insanity and raw vitriol being spewed by Rush's supporters over this, here's the text of a couple of the responses. The first response, seemingly rather tame and questioning the wisdom of the site's article (both of these are only partial quotes. . .I pasted the relevant sections):

Rush has made a career saying things that at best, could be considered divisive. And while I don’t agree with what he says, I agree he has the right to say it. But words have consequences, and if he can’t handle the fact that a broad swath of the country do not like what he says, maybe he should find a new line of work.

- realitybiased77

Here's the response that comment:

You bailout whore, death panel loving, racist jerk. I would also like to point out that you have been accused of child molestation, and we would like to get your response to that before you post further.

What you and your pseudo-intellectual ilk ought to be concerned about is the fact that an American cannot tell the truth without the left trying to silence him, or worse.

- Jack_Savage

Wow.

60 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:06:39am

re: #56 jaunte

I have most of a bottle left that I can give you. It was worse than pain.

Can't let oxy slow me down. Given the recent trends, I figure the intoxicant of choice these days will be meth (seems ya can't work for the Aryan revolution without selling the stuff).

(For Pete's sake, will somebody dig up William F. Buckley? We need him, zombified or not.)

61 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:07:31am

re: #55 jeff in ohio

That's very good. Looks like you're from my hatchling clutch.

62 Kragar  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:07:32am

re: #58 Charles

And the excuse that those were satire or taken out of context in 5..4..3..

63 theheat  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:07:33am

re: #37 Joe G.

Maybe they're trying to work in that whole Rush-Viagra connection.

64 bosforus  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:07:35am

Oh please - I could never bring myself to talking like such a sycophant about anyone.

65 Four More Tears  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:08:16am

Anyone else suspect that Rush is loving this?

66 MinisterO  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:08:21am

re: #55 jeff in ohio

re: #57 ralphieboy

Hilarious! Thanks for the laughs!

67 bratwurst  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:09:20am

re: #50 Buck

I just don't think it is right for people to make up quotes, and distort quotes to label this guy a racist.

There are more than enough recorded statements he actually made for him to richly deserve his rep as a racist.

68 Stanghazi  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:09:55am

re: #62 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And the excuse that those were satire or taken out of context in 5..4..3..

I'm sorry if anyone was offended...

69 theheat  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:10:03am

re: #50 Buck

Either you forgot the sarc tag or you're living in an alternate universe. He's made racist remarks for years, and it's well documented.

70 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:10:32am

re: #65 JasonA

Anyone else suspect that Rush is loving this?

I suspect that he's acting like he loves it, but he's really pissed. He just portrayed it as an attack on "all conservatives." Hey Rush, sometimes you should take it personally.

71 nccanuck  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:10:48am

So noone sees the irony in that whatever Limbaugh said was enough to get his chances of buying into a sport of spolied babies trashed and yet, we elected a man who sat listening to Rev Wright for 20+ years and didn't that that was bad and stop him from being President.
I think people are missing the point of the article, why its OK for Obama and the left to make racist comments and yet a private citizen is taken to the wall for it. Just saying.

72 Cato the Elder  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:11:27am

Funny. I have this sudden craving for hillbilly heroin

73 nutz4Tuna  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:11:29am

re: #71 nccanuck

So noone sees the irony in that whatever Limbaugh said was enough to get his chances of buying into a sport of spolied babies trashed and yet, we elected a man who sat listening to Rev Wright for 20+ years and didn't that that was bad and stop him from being President.
I think people are missing the point of the article, why its OK for Obama and the left to make racist comments and yet a private citizen is taken to the wall for it. Just saying.

Tu quoque?

74 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:11:35am

re: #71 nccanuck

Because this isn't about Obama.

75 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:11:53am

He has just shown that this divisiveness is not without its consequence.

It garners a lot of media attention and notoriety, but when it comes to being a shareholder in the NFL, an American institutian with a broad appeal across all levels of society, it is repugnant enough to cause him to be dropped from consideration because it is seen as being detrimental to their image.

76 Kragar  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:12:03am

Hamas calls for unity deal changes

Hamas, the Palestinian group in control of Gaza, has said it is pushing for changes to a unity deal with its rival, Fatah, that would allow it to continue "resisting the Zionist occupation". (AKA continue killing Israelis)

In a statement released on Thursday, Hamas said it would not sign the deal until it is amended, and asked for more time to consider the Egypt-mediated proposal, which has already been backed by Fatah.

In a joint statement with seven other Palestinian factions, Hamas said the deal made "no reference to the struggle [with Israel] and the aggression against our people".

"The Palestinian factions will not sign the accord ... unless the text includes the principles and the rights of Palestinians, especially that of resisting the Zionist occupation," Khaled Abdel Majid, a Damascus-based spokesman for Hamas, said.

77 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:12:47am

More verified racist quotes, and some debunked: [Link: www.snopes.com...]

The simple fact is that Rush Limbaugh has made numerous statements like this. "Race-baiting" is being generous. That "take the bone out of your nose" comment is pure unvarnished racism.

78 PAUL_MACDONALD  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:13:03am

re: #46 Charles

It's really not so much about bashing LGF, it's more about an assault on rational thought. At some point in the past 6-9 months, HotAir became a repository for mainstreaming Freeper-esque conspiracy theories.

Prior to the election, the kind of crap that goes on there now was not tolerated. I guess they figured out that there was money to be made by pandering to that segment of society. It's too bad, really. There has been irreparable damage done to reputations simply because of unsavoury associations.

79 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:13:39am

re: #71 nccanuck

Rush was taken to the wall, as you say, by a private action of individuals acting in the context of a financial transaction. They don't HAVE to sell to him

80 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:13:43am

Give me a break. A PRIVATE investment partnership (the Checketts group), along with recommendations from a PRIVATE sports/entertainment company (the NFL) decide not to accept a business offer, and suddenly it's a ALL POLITICS, ALL THE TIME issue.

No folks, it's money, the same sort of money that Rush wanted to invest and profit from. As a conservative, I recognize that as CAPITALISM. They didn't want Rush's image connected to their product. It doesn't matter why, it's their right, it's their business, it's to their profit (or loss) by dropping Rush from the picture.

Nothing else really matters. Phony quotes, true quotes, it's not a court of law, it's not a trial, it's business. Deal with it.

How's that capitalism working for Rush? Whiny conservatives, nor whiny progressives add anything to intelligent political discourse.

And the sort of whining conveyed in this article is a disgrace to conservatives.

81 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:13:49am

If the re: #74 Sharmuta

If the If the Reverend Wright wanted to buy a share in the Chicago Bears, the NFL would be just as justified in turning him down.

82 Mikey_Dallas  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:14:01am

re: #58 Charles

Sorry, but there are plenty of VERY REAL reasons to call Limbaugh a race-baiting bigot.

Charles, since you were complaining the other day about how YOUR Wiki entry had been modified, why do you automatically assume that everything on someone else's Wiki page is 100% true and correct? I don't know if what you quoted is true or not, but isn't it a rush to judgment (no pun intended) to make that assumption?

83 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:14:09am

re: #81 ralphieboy

I agree.

84 Randall Gross  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:15:06am

re: #78 PAUL_MACDONALD

Yes it's a small but secure niche market that's easy to get a permalock on if you are willing to say the right things.

85 Mikey_Dallas  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:15:35am

re: #81 ralphieboy

If the

If the If the Reverend Wright wanted to buy a share in the Chicago Bears, the NFL would be just as justified in turning him down.

Yes, but WOULD they turn him down?

86 bosforus  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:15:49am
Tonight, Rush is no longer ‘just’ a NFL owner denied


And it's: Tonight, Rush is no longer ‘just’ an NFL owner denied

87 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:16:19am

re: #81 ralphieboy

If the

If the If the Reverend Wright wanted to buy a share in the Chicago Bears, the NFL would be just as justified in turning him down.

If the Rev paid money for the Bears, he'd be doing penance.

88 Achilles Tang  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:16:29am
Tonight, Rush is us. And we are him.

This reminds me of after 9/11 when Bush said "you are with us or with the terrorists" (or similar) and the crickets started chirping "then I am Al Qaeda".

89 What, me worry?  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:16:37am

re: #59 Yashmak

So what does that mean? Damn the left for trying to silence the bigots? The right should have the opportunity to say hateful things whenever they damn well please? I have an idea. Maybe these folks would like to put the Jews, the Blacks, and the liberals in camps. That'll shut them up. Talk to Malkin. She'll tell you why putting the Japanese in camps was a good thing. She wrote a whole book about it in fact.
... spit ...

90 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:16:42am

re: #82 Mikey_Dallas

Charles, since you were complaining the other day about how YOUR Wiki entry had been modified, why do you automatically assume that everything on someone else's Wiki page is 100% true and correct? I don't know if what you quoted is true or not, but isn't it a rush to judgment (no pun intended) to make that assumption?

No, it's not. I wasn't complaining about that Wikipedia entry -- I was noting that vandals were at it. And by the way, their vandalism was REVERSED within minutes.

So your point is completely without merit. The fact is that Wikipedia makes very determined efforts to make sure their entries are sourced and verified.

91 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:16:46am

re: #85 Mikey_Dallas


We could make an offer in his name and see...

92 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:16:47am

re: #82 Mikey_Dallas

Charles, since you were complaining the other day about how YOUR Wiki entry had been modified, why do you automatically assume that everything on someone else's Wiki page is 100% true and correct? I don't know if what you quoted is true or not, but isn't it a rush to judgment (no pun intended) to make that assumption?

DId you notice Charles' little link to Scopes? Did you notice any other sources besides Wiki? Have you researched any sources? If you try, and it's really not hard, you will find that Rush has made numerous remarks that have IN THE LEAST, race baiting, and probably just down right racism.

Do some research.

93 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:16:48am

re: #85 Mikey_Dallas

Yes, but WOULD they turn him down?

Who knows? And would it matter? Private property, means just that. They can sell or not sell, partner or not partner, with anyone.

94 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:17:26am

re: #85 Mikey_Dallas

Yes, but WOULD they turn him down?

It should be noted the NFL has done nothing to Rush. It was the investment group to which he belonged that dropped him.

95 SeaMonkey  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:17:27am

I want to buy the Lions. I have, um... six bucks. And I can get a couple more if I need to.

96 CommonCents  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:17:55am

re: #58 Charles

The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well.

The rest of those quotes are obviously racist, but this one seems more like a statement of fact. It is difficult to argue against when you see all the "first black quarterback to ..." stories whenever one achieves a point of success that hadn't been obtained before. Not that I'm against it, I'm just saying the media does milk it.

97 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:18:06am

re: #53 marjoriemoon

Not me. Never me. I've been coming here for 8 years. When liberal surely wasn't cool. When I was called every name in the book, but I endured it because I wanted to know more about Republicans. I never thought they weren't Americans or the enemy.

A new girl just started in my office. She's from Panama. Been here 3 months and is working on her citizenship. She was amazed that we are all so friendly and kind. Maybe she heard bad things about us.

New Americans have a broader view. Most often, they've seen enslavement in one form or another and are ecstatic to have made it here and to have the opportunity to be American.

Yes, new Americans can be touching in their appreciation of their new home. Most of us are as ignorant of our blessings as fish are ignorant of water.

98 dugmartsch  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:18:17am

re: #12 Ojoe

The whole thing is really insulting to just about everybody.

It's something I'd think a moderately savvy high school freshman would find offputtingly dramatic.

99 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:18:18am

I want to buy the Redskins so I can change their name to the "Native Americans"

100 BlackFedora  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:18:59am

I've got nothing... except this

Seriously... I've got nothing except this

101 Yashmak  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:19:01am

re: #89 marjoriemoon

So what does that mean? Damn the left for trying to silence the bigots? The right should have the opportunity to say hateful things whenever they damn well please? I have an idea. Maybe these folks would like to put the Jews, the Blacks, and the liberals in camps. That'll shut them up. Talk to Malkin. She'll tell you why putting the Japanese in camps was a good thing. She wrote a whole book about it in fact.
... spit ...

I don't know what you're talking about. I posted those comments to demonstrate the hate some of the less rational folks on the right are spewing over this.

102 nutz4Tuna  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:19:02am

re: #95 SeaMonkey

I want to buy the Lions. I have, um... six bucks. And I can get a couple more if I need to.


Weren't you ever taught to never pay retail?

103 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:19:11am

re: #88 Naso Tang

This reminds me of after 9/11 when Bush said "you are with us or with the terrorists" (or similar) and the crickets started chirping "then I am Al Qaeda".

...???...

What does that mean?

104 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:19:36am

He speaks for 3 hours a day, 5 days a week.

(I am even going to throw in 2 weeks vacation and another 2 weeks where he has a guest sit in for him.)

He has been on the air for 21 years. (He also had a T.V. show but I will not include that either just for the sake of simplicity.)

So for 11 months a year, for 21 years = 231 months, in which he works 5 days a week for 3 hours. 15 hours per week x 4 weeks (I will even remove the advertising 'breaks') of 45 minutes per 3 hours...that gives us 2 hours and 15 minutes a day. So 2.25 hours per day x 5 days per week x 4 weeks per month = 45 hours a month.

45 hours per month x 231 months = 10,395 hours.

10,395 hours x 60 minutes in an hour = 623,700 minutes...

Now his racist / race baiting quotes = (I will round up guestimates) = 5 minutes

5 / 623,700 = 0.000000801667468 of his commentary being 'racist'.

Does that mean he is racist? Do we really think he is racist based on that track record?
(There is a only a little rotten meet in this stew... etc. etc.)
Who hasn't said something dumb before? Ever? Ever ever? This guy monologues for a majority of his show unscripted. Sometimes he will read news articles, and once in a while something he may have come up with in advance the night before or during preparation.

And also, for any of you who had/have/still have any 'right leaning' inklings...you pretty much owe him most of your talking points since at some point he was the one who made them. He was pretty much the reason the 'MSM' lost it's foothold. So personally, he has my gratitude to a degree.

I completely disagree with his race baiting and crap statements as well as the reaction from the 'right' to correlate it to the 'holocaust'... but to me ... judging by those numbers. Just using the numbers alone. He does a good job at hiding his racism if he is racist...but then Bo Snerdley, his fellow confidante and phone 'gate keeper' is black.

I wish he didn't say what he did on any of those occasions. But to full on label him 'racist' and think it will always apply? I can't do that, and also, people can change...hopefully his track record doesn't get worse. I could be proven wrong.

105 former_secret_agent  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:19:49am

re: #95 SeaMonkey

I want to buy the Lions. I have, um... six bucks. And I can get a couple more if I need to.

I wouldn't pay more than 3 dollars for the lions. I might even expect to get paid to take them.

106 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:19:54am

re: #82 Mikey_Dallas

And your new sock puppet is now blocked, just like your previous one was, when you called Nancy Pelosi a filthy name:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

If I ever am in the same room as Nancy Pelosi, I am going to throw my shoe at her...what a c@nt.

No wonder you like Rush Limbaugh.

107 Achilles Tang  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:19:54am

re: #103 The Sanity Inspector

...???...

What does that mean?

Makes sense to me.

108 lurking faith  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:20:05am

re: #71 nccanuck

You're changing the subject. And by the way, there was a lot of discussion here about Obama's tolerance of Rev. Wright's racism.

Racism: Wrong then; wrong now.

109 Cato the Elder  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:20:17am

People who don't intend their puns are bad writers.

110 What, me worry?  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:20:35am

re: #101 Yashmak

I don't know what you're talking about. I posted those comments to demonstrate the hate some of the less rational folks on the right are spewing over this.

So did I. I just got more excited about it.

111 dugmartsch  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:20:41am

re: #36 Baier

Love Bill Gates Love GMOs. Inorganic farming is the future. I actually think its ethically questionable to purchase organic food.

112 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:21:19am

re: #106 Charles

Good huntin'.

113 nccanuck  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:22:25am

re: #74 Sharmuta

Lets put it another way then. The sheer and utter hypocrisy of the NFL and those in it that condemned him should be enough to say no more paying to see these cry babies play or supporting the owners of the teams that came out on it. I could give a rats ass that Limbaugh doesn't get to buy in, the huge double standard when it comes to race is what is the issue along with hypocrites, I mean really, do guys like Shaprton and Jackson really have a leg to stand on with this.

114 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:22:59am

re: #104 Oh no...Sand People!

(There is a only a little rotten meet in this stew... etc. etc.)

And you're still interested in the stew?

115 PAUL_MACDONALD  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:23:32am

re: #104 Oh no...Sand People!

Yes, it does mean he's a racist. Those were times he let the mask slip.

116 Randall Gross  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:23:57am

re: #85 Mikey_Dallas

Yes, but WOULD they turn him down?

Are you kidding? There would be way more outcry from the right about this than you've seen from the left.re: #104 Oh no...Sand People!

Strawman.

Everyone talks all their lives. Utter the "N" word or other like things for one second in front of me and I will consider you racist. By your measure racists don't exist anywhere, which is surely false.

117 SeaMonkey  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:23:58am

re: #102 nutz4Tuna

You're right. I'll buy you a beer with the change.

118 reine.de.tout  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:24:16am

re: #71 nccanuck

1. I don't recall Obama making racist comments.
2. There was plenty of discussion here before the election about Obama's associations. In case you haven't noticed, the election is over. Obama is now President. So what needs the focus is . . . what is happening now? What happened "ago" is over and done with.

119 bratwurst  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:24:38am

re: #96 CommonCents

The rest of those quotes are obviously racist, but this one seems more like a statement of fact. It is difficult to argue against when you see all the "first black quarterback to ..." stories whenever one achieves a point of success that hadn't been obtained before.

If a black QB hadn't won the Super Bowl 15 years before Rush opened his mouth, you might have a point.

120 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:24:46am

re: #113 nccanuck

The NFL didn't do anything to Rush. His investment group dropped him.

The double standard you discuss is irrelevant, because it doesn't excuse Rush, and it doesn't vindicate him.

121 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:25:04am

re: #113 nccanuck

I mean really, do guys like Shaprton and Jackson really have a leg to stand on with this.

Were they part of the group trying to buy the team? No. Wrong target.

122 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:25:42am

re: #104 Oh no...Sand People!

It's not so much about his race-baiting, it is about his overall image, which is divisive and provocative.

It gives his network a solid lock on his demographic and allows him to sell his advertising time for premium rates.

But it makes his image incompatibe with that of the NFL, at least according to the decision of their Board of Directors.

It's a matter of image and a Free Market (TM) business decision. He probably couldn't get a job modelling men's swimwear, either

123 Ben Hur  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:25:43am

Rush Limbaugh’s Lip Meets Soros Cash in NFL Bid

Limbaugh’s group is led by former Madison Square Garden President and current St. Louis Blues and Real Salt Lake majority owner Dave Checketts, who brings a wealth of sports industry contacts, know-how and credibility. Checketts also brings big-time backers like George Soros, who financed the duo’s failed attempt to buy the Los Angeles Dodgers in 2003.

Checketts’s ownership of hockey’s Blues is backed by, among others, TowerBrook Capital Partners, which was formerly known as Soros Private Equity Partners before it was spun off from Soros Asset Management Group in 2005.

124 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:25:52am

re: #99 ralphieboy

I want to buy the Redskins so I can change their name to the "Native Americans"

Why?
Washington Redskins

Notwithstanding the protests of activists, a 2002 poll commissioned by Sports Illustrated found that 75% of those Native Americans surveyed had no objection to the Redskins name.[37] However, the results of the poll have been criticized due to Sport's Illustrated's refusal to provide polling information (i.e. how participants were recruited and contacted, if they were concentrated in one region, if one ethnic group is over represented and the exact wording and order of questions).[38][39] But in 2004, a poll by the Annenberg Public Policy Center at the University of Pennsylvania essentially confirmed the prior poll's findings, concluding that 91% of the American Indians surveyed in the 48 states on the mainland USA found the name acceptable and setting out in detail the exact wording of the questions.[40]

History of the Redskins

The team moved to Fenway Park[15] (home of the Boston Red Sox) the next year, and Marshall changed the name to the "Redskins" apparently in honor of then-coach Lone Star Dietz,[16] an American Indian (he claimed to be part Sioux, but his actual ancestry has been challenged).[17]

125 SteveC  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:26:07am

Do I have to be like Rush? I'm plump *ahem!* but at least I have all my hair.

126 SeaMonkey  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:27:10am

re: #105 former_secret_agent

It's fair to say they're the worst-run franchise in professional sports. Heartbreaking for a kid who had a Billy Sims poster on his wall, sniff.

127 sattv4u2  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:27:42am

re: #125 SteveC

Do I have to be like Rush? I'm plump *ahem!* but at least I have all my hair.

I'd trade my full head of hair for one of his full bank accounts!
/

128 dugmartsch  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:28:24am

re: #104 Oh no...Sand People!

So all the people who have been talking on radio and TV who haven't said anything bigoted or that obviously panders to bigots just haven't been caught yet?

Right I mean given enough time everyone's going to say something bigoted because everyone's a bigot.

Nice reasoning keep it coming.

129 What, me worry?  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:28:40am

re: #116 Thanos

...Everyone talks all their lives. Utter the "N" word or other like things for one second in front of me and I will consider you racist. By your measure racists don't exist anywhere, which is surely false.

Thank you. Something people either don't understand that or they don't think it's so bad.

It's happened to me more times than I can count. Chatting with an acquaintance or a neighbor and out comes N*. I run like hell because inevitably, Kike is right behind. I've never been wrong about that.

I've heard "jew ya down" to my face to which I reply, "uh... you know I'm Jewish right?" And they say, "Oh yea! Is that a problem?"

fucking ignorant people.

130 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:28:46am

re: #124 Honorary Yooper

For the sake of those poor oppressed native peoples, even if they seem to overwhelmingly approve of the name, it just demonstrates that beaten down so long they have grown to accept the way they are slighted...

SARK SARK SARK ALERT!!!

131 Achilles Tang  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:29:16am

re: #103 The Sanity Inspector

...???...

What does that mean?

On reflection, I'll elaborate that all these are examples of mindsets that allow no nuances.

Bush made an absolute statement that obviously could not be followed in all regards if taken literally, and many Arabs (in this example) responded with another similar attitude, that they would rather be Al Qaeda than seen on the side of the USA.

Limbaugh fans ignore any and all extremism if they think some other cherished, if imaginary, principle is at stake.

At LGF this infection is what leads to flouncing.

132 sattv4u2  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:29:45am

re: #126 SeaMonkey

It's fair to say they're the worst-run franchise in professional sports. Heartbreaking for a kid who had a Billy Sims poster on his wall, sniff.

As long as The Los Angeles Clippers are still around, the Lions will have to settle for #2 at best
(could be #3 considering the state the Raiders have been in for the last 5-6 years)

133 SteveC  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:29:59am

re: #127 sattv4u2

I'd trade my full head of hair for one of his full bank accounts!
/

I'd give up my hair AND my left... big toe!

134 nccanuck  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:30:09am

re: #89 marjoriemoon

We wouldn't mind the left trying to silence the bigots as long as they start in there own house. Opps, thats right, the left dont have any bigots or racists ... bwaaahaha. Can I now go to the beer summit.

135 Cato the Elder  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:31:09am

re: #111 dugmartsch

I actually think its ethically questionable to purchase organic food.

I expect you like Velveeta?

136 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:31:10am

re: #124 Honorary Yooper

A word can lose its negative connotation when it crosses languages.
I don't know if the northern Italians have a noun other than "pelorossi".

137 What, me worry?  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:31:40am

re: #134 nccanuck

We wouldn't mind the left trying to silence the bigots as long as they start in there own house. Opps, thats right, the left dont have any bigots or racists ... bwaaahaha. Can I now go to the beer summit.

Ok, so name me one on the same level as Rush or Beck. And don't bother with some 90 year old Dixiecrat either.

138 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:32:18am

re: #136 Decatur Deb

A word can lose its negative connotation when it crosses languages.
I don't know if the northern Italians have a noun other than "pelorossi".

You mean like Nancy Pelorossi?

139 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:32:19am

re: #125 SteveC

Do I have to be like Rush? I'm plump *ahem!* but at least I have all my hair.

What does his size have to do with anything? Love him, hate him, agree with him, disagree with him, cheer the Checketts Group, damn the Checketts Group, why does anyone size come up in a discussion of business and politics.

It amazes me.

140 Yashmak  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:32:26am

re: #110 marjoriemoon

So did I. I just got more excited about it.

AH, sorry, I misunderstood your first reply.

141 sattv4u2  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:32:35am

re: #135 Cato the Elder

I expect you like Velveeta?

The "cheese" product, or the Exotic dancer?


(gentelmen,,, on our main stage ,,, Velveeta!!!)
//

142 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:33:11am

re: #141 sattv4u2

The "cheese" product, or the Exotic dancer?


(gentelmen,,, on our main stage ,,, Velveeta!!!)
//

Only the Velveeta Underground

143 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:34:39am

re: #142 ralphieboy

Only the Velveeta Underground

That's a cheesy group.

144 Yashmak  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:34:59am

re: #137 marjoriemoon

Ok, so name me one on the same level as Rush or Beck. And don't bother with some 90 year old Dixiecrat either.

No offense, but your reply does kind-of imply that you immediately were able to think of one who is indeed on the same level. The left has plenty of these sorts as well, but again. . .

it shouldn't be a contest about who is worse. It should be about getting rid of or outing these sorts regardless of their political affiliation.

145 bosforus  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:35:08am

re: #96 CommonCents

The rest of those quotes are obviously racist, but this one seems more like a statement of fact. It is difficult to argue against when you see all the "first black quarterback to ..." stories whenever one achieves a point of success that hadn't been obtained before. Not that I'm against it, I'm just saying the media does milk it.

Perhaps it is a similar sentiment as when I watch the Iraq national team play a soccer game. I want them to do well because it is the Iraqi team and national sports is good for moral, not because of some racist attitude I may have towards the opposing team.

146 McSpiff  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:35:30am

flounce in the last thread...

147 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:36:00am

re: #131 Naso Tang

Got it, thanks.

148 Randall Gross  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:36:07am

re: #137 marjoriemoon

That was a mistake. Racism doesn't know political bounds.

E.G. We could start with most of the members of ISM, go to Wright, Jackson, or look at that Icon of the left, Ghandi. I believe Hillary has made some questionable comments as well.

149 SeaMonkey  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:36:07am

re: #132 sattv4u2

Raiders are execrable but Lions have been worse. Al Davis, though. Clippers: you could be right.

150 nccanuck  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:36:21am

re: #137 marjoriemoon

You mean outside of Sharpton, Jackson, Wright (who had the pres' ear for 20+yrs)?

151 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:36:23am

Mikey_Dallas, who sneaked back in with a sock puppet after being banned, sent this email:

You're bouncing me for disagreeing with you, plain and simple. It has nothing to do with what I said about Pelosi - there's been plenty worse said on your blog.

That's fine - it's your website you can do what you want, but I think you're being petty to close my account over that.

That's a great example of how these people think. They sneak back in after being banned for a hateful comment, get caught, and then scream that I'm banning them just because they "disagree" with me.

152 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:36:47am

re: #146 McSpiff

flounce in the last thread...

And a beaut it was, too! A nearly perfect flounce - and it was the first post ever, making it an immaculate flounce.

153 What, me worry?  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:37:17am

re: #140 Yashmak

AH, sorry, I misunderstood your first reply.

No worries. I reread it and I think I probably would have misread it too. The second comment you posted pissed me off and it was more sarcasm to that than anything. I have to remember sarcasm doesn't translate well online and I don't use the sarc tag.

154 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:38:07am

A few minutes ago I got my 49th graduation credit. In a superhuman
display of restraint, I will wait until...


Never mind.

155 dugmartsch  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:38:08am

re: #135 Cato the Elder

Huh?

The larger point is that the market shifting towards organic food production will increase the amount of land necessary to produce the same amount of food and increase soil erosion from tilling which is likely to do more damage to the environment than well timed pesticides and natural gas used for compost. Certainly as populations continue to climb the need for more nutritious and more bountiful production per acre is going to be a major concern, even in developed countries.

A lot of our cultural surplus is derived from the fact that food is disgustingly cheap. A shift to industrial organic food would change that.

156 lurking faith  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:38:45am

re: #134 nccanuck

We wouldn't mind the left trying to silence the bigots as long as they start in there own house. Opps, thats right, the left dont have any bigots or racists ... bwaaahaha. Can I now go to the beer summit.

By your reasoning, it's been wrong for the right to point out bigotry on the left while ignoring the bigotry of, say, Pat Buchanan.

I'd much rather expel ALL bigots from polite society, thankyouverymuch.

157 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:39:23am

re: #139 Walter L. Newton

What does his size have to do with anything? Love him, hate him, agree with him, disagree with him, cheer the Checketts Group, damn the Checketts Group, why does anyone size come up in a discussion of business and politics.

It amazes me.

Because obesity provokes negative reactions in people. That's why, when the TV networks report on Rush Limbaugh, they run stock footage of him at his mid-Nineties flabbiest.

158 What, me worry?  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:41:06am

re: #148 Thanos

That was a mistake. Racism doesn't know political bounds.

E.G. We could start with most of the members of ISM, go to Wright, Jackson, or look at that Icon of the left, Ghandi. I believe Hillary has made some questionable comments as well.

Hillary's a bigot? Oh please.

Members of the ISM? And who except for maybe some indy media types actually respect them?

Wright and Jackson are not icons of the left. Even blacks are embarrassed about Jackson, I'm assuming you mean Jesse. Neither of these men are leaders of Democrats.

Rush is a leader. The chairman of the RNC apologized TO HIM.

But you are correct that it's not something drawn on party lines. Certainly there are bigots of all stripes on both sides. The ones I'm most worried about are the ones that people are listening to and agreeing with.

159 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:41:18am

re: #114 Sharmuta

And you're still interested in the stew?

I would love to find 'perfection' in a mouthpiece for 'political discourse'. I would love to find perfection in ANYTHING. But it doesn't exist. Is anyone perfect? I guess that's my point.

re: #115 PAUL_MACDONALD

Yes, it does mean he's a racist. Those were times he let the mask slip.

And going by the numbers...I just can't believe that. But if in his brain that is truly what he is...well a pox be upon him.

re: #116 Thanos

Strawman.

Everyone talks all their lives. Utter the "N" word or other like things for one second in front of me and I will consider you racist. By your measure racists don't exist anywhere, which is surely false.

Much to my stupidity I was a foul mouthed jerk growing up you name it, I am sure I said it. I am doing infinitely better than before, but what I said versus my actions taken were 2 different things entirely. Now the goal is getting them both to align.

Am I therefore to be labeled a racist for it? How long in the past before it's 'the past'?

160 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:42:14am

re: #128 dugmartsch

So all the people who have been talking on radio and TV who haven't said anything bigoted or that obviously panders to bigots just haven't been caught yet?

Right I mean given enough time everyone's going to say something bigoted because everyone's a bigot.

Nice reasoning keep it coming.

Hold on..not following your logic. I think I am saying the opposite...

161 SteveC  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:42:15am

FOX News - Cops looking for 6 year old child who might have floated off in a hot air balloon. They're checking the ground as well as tracking the balloon, just in case he fell out.

162 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:42:34am

re: #138 ralphieboy

Upding for bi-lingual pun w/ political overtone.


It works!!!11!!

163 SeaMonkey  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:42:47am

re: #152 Guanxi88

It's strange to see. It's like in that crapfest The Happening.

164 Cato the Elder  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:42:58am

re: #139 Walter L. Newton

What does his size have to do with anything? Love him, hate him, agree with him, disagree with him, cheer the

165 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:43:26am

re: #158 marjoriemoon


Rush is a leader. The chairman of the RNC apologized TO HIM.

But you are correct that it's not something drawn on party lines. Certainly there are bigots of all stripes on both sides. The ones I'm most worried about are the ones that people are listening to and agreeing with.

Bears repeating.

166 SteveC  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:43:35am

Jeebus - Denver International is clearing air traffic around the balloon.

167 CommonCents  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:44:06am

re: #151 Charles

Mikey_Dallas, who sneaked back in with a sock puppet after being banned, sent this email:

That's a great example of how these people think. They sneak back in after being banned for a hateful comment, get caught, and then scream that I'm banning them just because they "disagree" with me.

Is it not possible to block a sock using the same data you use to identify them after the fact? Seems it would save you the trouble.

168 Stuart Leviton  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:44:17am

re: #134 nccanuck

We wouldn't mind the left trying to silence the bigots as long as they start in there their own house.

Even if the left fails to call out bigots, wouldn't you want to do the responsible thing?

169 former_secret_agent  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:44:51am

re: #165 Guanxi88

Bears repeating.

Bears Repeating? Is this 1986? That's the last time the Bears won the Super Bowl.

Guess my time machine works -- buy Microsoft! Don't buy Enron!

170 Randall Gross  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:45:11am

re: #159 Oh no...Sand People!

That argument works only if your comments aren't recent and you've changed due to introspection. Several of Rush's comments are. Rush=Racist. You, maybe not.

171 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:45:29am

re: #164 Cato the Elder

Size Matters.

Somebody had to...

172 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:45:54am

re: #151 Charles

Mikey_Dallas, who sneaked back in with a sock puppet after being banned, sent this email:

That's a great example of how these people think. They sneak back in after being banned for a hateful comment, get caught, and then scream that I'm banning them just because they "disagree" with me.

And one more point -- the comment filters stop people from posting the c-word directly -- so he actually misspelled it to get around the filter, knowing that it wasn't allowed.

173 Yashmak  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:46:09am

re: #165 Guanxi88

Bears repeating.

Of course, (and this is in NO WAY an apology for Rush or Beck's questionable race-related remarks), the folks listening to these guys may not be agreeing with those race-related remarks, but other portions of what they have to say.

Again, doesn't excuse the bigoted statements though.

174 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:46:37am

re: #152 Guanxi88

And a beaut it was, too! A nearly perfect flounce - and it was the first post ever, making it an immaculate flounce.

That usually means the commentor was a sock puppet. Very few non-socks flounce on their first and only post.

175 What, me worry?  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:47:26am

re: #165 Guanxi88

Bears repeating.

Thanks!

Rush and Beck scare me because they have a radio/TV show. They reach 1000s very easily. If Obama never ran for President, no one would have heard about Wright. I'm not excusing the man for the despicable things he said (Wright). They were despicable, but Rush and Beck's influence is far greater and far more frightening in my view.

176 sattv4u2  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:47:52am

re: #169 former_secret_agent

Bears Repeating? Is this 1986? That's the last time the Bears won the Super Bowl.

Guess my time machine works -- buy Microsoft! Don't buy Enron!

Ugghhh,,, don't mention that. I'm a Patriots fan

On a positive note, "we" were actually winning that game at one point!
(((okay ,,,okay ,,,but 3-0 IS 'winning' at that point!)))

177 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:47:57am

re: #174 Honorary Yooper

That usually means the commentor was a sock puppet. Very few non-socks flounce on their first and only post.

I'd like flouncers more if they did it right outta the box. Flounces should be spectacular, artistic plunges.

178 Randall Gross  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:48:05am

re: #158 marjoriemoon

Hilary made an anti semitic remark iirc, no, I'm not going to dig it up since I agree with you that "the left does it too!" is a stupid argument.

Your point at the end is a good one: these aren't past incidents, they are recent, and the perpetrator is still on the air with tons of apologists defending the bigotry.

179 PAUL_MACDONALD  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:48:22am

re: #159 Oh no...Sand People!

The question you have to ask yourself is, even if it was the heat of the moment, what made him say the things he said if he didn't already think that way.

He has been given plenty of opportunities to apologize and retract, and has the forum to do so. I'm not sure he has. Even if he has, he repeats the pattern.

180 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:48:32am

re: #159 Oh no...Sand People!

I would love to find 'perfection' in a mouthpiece for 'political discourse'. I would love to find perfection in ANYTHING. But it doesn't exist. Is anyone perfect? I guess that's my point.

Wow, Man. That's the same argument we heard two years ago in the VB debates. I didn't think I'd ever see you use it. Perhaps you should rethink this position.

181 sngnsgt  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:48:36am

OT

I came home from doing one of THE hardest things in life. I just placed a parent in a senior home. It will get easier as time passes, I know. I am a very hated person right now. There's just no way you can prepare yourself for this kind of thing. I know it's best for everyone involved.

182 fizzlogic  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:48:46am

re: #32 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

On a side note, that's the "song" Rush used to use as his Perot update.

183 Bagua  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:48:50am

re: #155 dugmartsch

Huh?

The larger point is that the market shifting towards organic food production will increase the amount of land necessary to produce the same amount of food and increase soil erosion from tilling which is likely to do more damage to the environment than well timed pesticides and natural gas used for compost. Certainly as populations continue to climb the need for more nutritious and more bountiful production per acre is going to be a major concern, even in developed countries.

A lot of our cultural surplus is derived from the fact that food is disgustingly cheap. A shift to industrial organic food would change that.

Yes, and add the increased chance of crop failure due and we have the ingredients for famine.

184 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:49:23am

re: #181 sngnsgt

OT

I came home from doing one of THE hardest things in life. I just placed a parent in a senior home. It will get easier as time passes, I know. I am a very hated person right now. There's just no way you can prepare yourself for this kind of thing. I know it's best for everyone involved.

Best wishes to you and yours.

185 Buck  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:49:32am

re: #58 Charles

Sorry, but there are plenty of VERY REAL reasons to call Limbaugh a race-baiting bigot.

Look I don't think the Blood Crips thing is racist. If you read the context, he just meant that games were looking more and more like rival street gangs instead of pro sports.

The bone in nose... well that was a long time ago, and like I said the McNabb thing was just like when someone said that the only reason Obama was the Democratic candidate was because he was black. That he didn't really earn it...(a female former democratic vp candidate, who will remain nameless).

I disagree with characterizing both McNabb and Obama that way, BUT it is not (IMO) racist.

The school bus thing was stupid, but still not (IMO, remember) racist. the situation happened, and it was ugly. But he did not take into account that it happens the other way around just as often, if not more often. We all agree that it should be punished either way.

There are two other quotes, and CNN et all have been pushing as real. That is the tragedy. No one has apologized for the slavery or liquor store things, which were really bad.

186 bill in tx  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:50:19am

I'm not a Limbaugh fan by any means. I don't like the guy, don't wish to be represented by him, and on the very few occasions I've listened to him (years ago) I found him to be juvenile and a self-important blowhard. The only thing he's ever done in life is get born to a man with a radio station.

But hey, if he wants to spend his money on a football team, why should anyone care? Let him buy whatever he wants. We're supposed to believe the NFL has standards?

187 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:50:24am

re: #172 Charles

And one more point -- the comment filters stop people from posting the c-word directly -- so he actually misspelled it to get around the filter, knowing that it wasn't allowed.

He might be happier at hot air. He'll fit right in.

188 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:50:38am

Enabled the contact form, and received this within minutes:

and let's keep it that way.Johnson,the little faggot asshole that likes
lizards and King's X.CJ,go slap your mom for giving birth to you...oh
wait...I'll see her tonight,I'll take care of it.If she happens to be
dead it most have been when she heard your music.I also see a bunch of
new names.I guess all of the good people left you after you sold out.

189 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:50:41am

re: #179 PAUL_MACDONALD

The question you have to ask yourself is, even if it was the heat of the moment, what made him say the things he said if he didn't already think that way.

He has been given plenty of opportunities to apologize and retract, and has the forum to do so. I'm not sure he has. Even if he has, he repeats the pattern.

Have you ever done something dumb...then said 'sorry'. Then the person comes out with 'If you were sorry, you wouldn't have done it in the first place'?

I just can't project what he was thinking...he may not have been thinking... (wow..I am sounding like a criminal defense lawyer...)

190 sngnsgt  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:51:08am

re: #184 Guanxi88

Thanx.

191 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:51:51am

re: #181 sngnsgt

My wife was an RN in a nursing home. No one is there who could be
anywhere else.

192 bosforus  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:51:55am

re: #188 Charles

Enabled the contact form, and received this within minutes:

What an a**hole.

193 SteveC  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:52:14am

re: #188 Charles

Enabled the contact form, and received this within minutes:#%$^%$ Charles Johnson $%$%$# 3%%^%&! And the horse you rode in on!

Articulate little so and so, ain't he?

194 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:52:36am

re: #192 bosforus

What an a**hole.

That's being mild.

195 Ojoe  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:52:59am

re: #188 Charles

Hats off to you Charles for putting up with that so people can have this fine blog.

196 Buck  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:52:59am

re: #188 Charles

Enabled the contact form, and received this within minutes:

Kinda verifies your decision.

197 Bagua  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:53:02am

re: #185 Buck

The schoolbus thing was race baiting in its purest form. The old quote would be less relevant if Rush apologized and distanced himself from prior views.

198 Randall Gross  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:53:11am

re: #185 Buck

No single one is enough *if* it were singular. They aren't singular - add them up and you can't deny. Nice try apologist for bigotry.

199 PAUL_MACDONALD  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:53:28am

re: #189 Oh no...Sand People!

Oh, I have done many stupid things. I have asked forgiveness. Then you know what I did? Not do a similar thing a little while later on. If this was a one-off, then sure. It's a pattern.

200 sngnsgt  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:53:55am

re: #191 Decatur Deb

Certainly not at home, especially incontinent.

201 Dan Tanna  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:54:22am

From the London Daily Telegraph:
The Rush Limbaugh media lynch mob:
[Link: blogs.telegraph.co.uk...]

From Mark Steyn:
NRO The Corner
[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

Im not a sock puppet, nor am I a shill for anyone...however, I think we ought to look at all sides here. Especially when the truest race baiter, and I should add, Jew hater, Al Sharpton, was the one that brought, IMHO, are false charges.

202 What, me worry?  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:54:38am

re: #178 Thanos

Hilary made an anti semitic remark iirc, no, I'm not going to dig it up since I agree with you that "the left does it too!" is a stupid argument.

Your point at the end is a good one: these aren't past incidents, they are recent, and the perpetrator is still on the air with tons of apologists defending the bigotry.

She did?? Oh please find that. Truly surprising.

It's not a good thing to say the other side is better or even worse in fact. It doesn't really make any good points. It does make me feel better :p But you're right. I'll try not to do it again.

I couldn't let you be better than me at apologizing you know lol

203 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:54:46am

re: #180 Sharmuta

Wow, Man. That's the same argument we heard two years ago in the VB debates. I didn't think I'd ever see you use it. Perhaps you should rethink this position.

I know...that's why I am hesistent to even go down this road. The guy gave me a boatload of entertainment growing up. I remember in, I think, it was the 7th grade and I was up late one night school night and he was on T.V. It was the episode where Bill Clinton was in a Veteran cemetery and he is putting a 'fallen' mini flag next to a tombstone, and as he is doing it in his reverential 'awe' he looks straight at the camera to ensure they are getting it and then he quickly looks back down. It was pure photo op.

So it sucks when someone I want so dearly to be the 'good guy' and on 'our side' to go down a stupid road.

204 SteveC  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:55:41am

This child is still in the balloon, they figure it is about 2000 feet up. Denver Air Traffic Control is getting other traffic out of the way... damn.

What kind of "rescue attempt" would they try?!?!

205 Ben Hur  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:56:05am

re: #201 Dan Tanna

Mr. Snerdley is black?

206 What, me worry?  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:56:25am

re: #188 Charles

Eek. How can you read that stuff? Horrible. I'd close the form again.

207 Neutral President  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:56:46am

LOL there's a post on HotAir now that implies that The Dark Lord Soros had something to do with the St. Louis Rams deal.

Were the Bilderbergers involved too? What about the Knights Templar? How about Grey aliens from Zeta 2 Reticuli? Should I except Ron Paul authored thinly veiled rants about Jooo Bankers to show up in HotAir posts soon as well?

208 sattv4u2  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:57:01am

re: #175 marjoriemoon

Rush and Beck scare me because they have a radio/TV show

I think we give too much credence to the influence of ANY media personality in general (opinion types, not hard news)

There were 130 MILLION votes cast this past Presidential election. The highest # Beck acheived was a "special" he did that attracted 3.4 million. On average, his nightly show does about 1.5 million

Rush claime he has 17 million listeners per week. At 5 days a week that comes out to just over 3 million a day. I would venture a guess that most of those are the same people day in and day out

I'm not saying they don't have influence, but after being in the broadcsat biz for over 25 years I can say their "numbers" aren't overwhelming

((side note ,, last years Super Bowl was watched by 93+ MILLION people)))

209 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:57:09am

Heh. I listened to Rush's show for three years back in the '90s, and I just remembered something.

On one show, he proudly declared that he had never in his life wore a pair of dungarees. And yes, he used the word "dungarees".

At that moment I realized that not only was he a nerd, but that he likely has never gotten his hands dirty doing an honest day's labor.

210 spoosmith  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:57:41am

re: #181 sngnsgt

We had to do the same thing several years ago with my father-in-law who had alzheimers. We waited as long as we could, until we figured his dementia prevented him from truly realizing what was going on and even then, we were wracked with guilt. It will get better. Just visit often. When he passed away, the home asked if we would donate his clothing (including socks and underwear) because so many seniors are simply dropped off, never to see their family again and they really needed these items. Making sure that you regularly visit allows them to feel connected to their family.

211 Stanghazi  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:58:08am

re: #185 Buck

Look I don't think the Blood Crips thing is racist. If you read the context, he just meant that games were looking more and more like rival street gangs instead of pro sports.

The bone in nose... well that was a long time ago, and like I said the McNabb thing was just like when someone said that the only reason Obama was the Democratic candidate was because he was black. That he didn't really earn it...(a female former democratic vp candidate, who will remain nameless).

I disagree with characterizing both McNabb and Obama that way, BUT it is not (IMO) racist.

The school bus thing was stupid, but still not (IMO, remember) racist. the situation happened, and it was ugly. But he did not take into account that it happens the other way around just as often, if not more often. We all agree that it should be punished either way.

There are two other quotes, and CNN et all have been pushing as real. That is the tragedy. No one has apologized for the slavery or liquor store things, which were really bad.

Did you hear Rush describing the bus incident? The voices he used? Either he's a racist, or he's making money inciting racists. Nothing more.

212 Ben Hur  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:58:14am

re: #207 ArchangelMichael

LOL there's a post on HotAir now that implies that The Dark Lord Soros had something to do with the St. Louis Rams deal.

Were the Bilderbergers involved too? What about the Knights Templar? How about Grey aliens from Zeta 2 Reticuli? Should I except Ron Paul authored thinly veiled rants about Jooo Bankers to show up in HotAir posts soon as well?

Why don't you click on the link to Bloomberg News in the spin-offs.

Soros money is very involved in the investment group.

213 FrogMarch  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:58:16am

Rush in an angry man. The left are angry. The right are angry. All this anger is so exhausting. Especially when there are real things to be nervous about: Like so-called "health care reform".

214 hokiepride  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:58:47am

re: #202 marjoriemoon

How about Keith Olbermann making a comment along the lines of "Hillary needs to be taken into a room by a guy and only the guy should come out"? (made during last years heated D primaries), does that sound like hate to you? Talk shows hosts in general are jerks and I avoid partisan shows both on the left or on the right.

215 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:58:54am

re: #213 FrogMarch

Rush in an angry man. The left are angry. The right are angry.

Angry is the new black.

216 Randall Gross  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:59:03am

re: #202 marjoriemoon

Hillary's outburst is documented in this book, three witnesses.

[Link: www.amazon.com...]
It's also in "State of the Union" and basically she called someone a "Jew Bastard".

217 sattv4u2  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:59:29am

re: #205 Ben Hur

Mr. Snerdley is black?

re: #205 Ben Hur

I beleive he is

Mr. "Bo" Snerdley
The official "program observer" and call screener. His real name is James Golden, and he is an African-American.[5]

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

218 Kragar  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:59:46am

re: #207 ArchangelMichael

LOL there's a post on HotAir now that implies that The Dark Lord Soros had something to do with the St. Louis Rams deal.

Were the Bilderbergers involved too? What about the Knights Templar? How about Grey aliens from Zeta 2 Reticuli? Should I except Ron Paul authored thinly veiled rants about Jooo Bankers to show up in HotAir posts soon as well?

Must be those Pentaverate bastards again.

219 What, me worry?  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:59:50am

re: #208 sattv4u2

Rush and Beck scare me because they have a radio/TV show

I think we give too much credence to the influence of ANY media personality in general (opinion types, not hard news)

There were 130 MILLION votes cast this past Presidential election. The highest # Beck acheived was a "special" he did that attracted 3.4 million. On average, his nightly show does about 1.5 million

Rush claime he has 17 million listeners per week. At 5 days a week that comes out to just over 3 million a day. I would venture a guess that most of those are the same people day in and day out

I'm not saying they don't have influence, but after being in the broadcsat biz for over 25 years I can say their "numbers" aren't overwhelming

((side note ,, last years Super Bowl was watched by 93+ MILLION people)))

Ok, but the superbowl is an annual event only so you're going to get a lot of people. Besides you can't compare something like that to a talk show. Ya gotta do apples to apples, or in this case bananas to bananas (i made a funny heh).

Those millions sound like a lot of people to me. I don't think Wright reaches millions. In fact, I know he doesn't. Thank goodness for small favors.

220 keithgabryelski  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 11:59:57am

re: #186 bill in tx

But hey, if he wants to spend his money on a football team, why should anyone care? Let him buy whatever he wants. We're supposed to believe the NFL has standards?

On the other side, should his business partners be able to re-evaluate if he is an appropriate partner to purchase the team?

Should anyone care if they decide to ask him to step out?

221 Ben Hur  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:00:32pm

re: #217 sattv4u2

I thought it was his imaginary friend that lived in his fingertip whispering, "Redrum!" "Redrum!"

222 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:00:44pm

re: #218 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Must be those Pentaverate bastards again.

Colonel Sanders, with his wee beady eyes.

223 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:00:49pm

Yeah, the slippery slope of the 'Limbaugh' apologetics is that every full on racist goon is going to think it's validation for them. I am just hoping that Rush could come out and say,
"Some of the things I said have been questionable and should have not been said, I am sorry to all parties and I retract them".

I would be gleeful if that happened.

224 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:00:59pm

Hot Airhead comment of the day...


People want to live with their own kind. Babel (multicultural) nations need Emperors to rule over them or else they divide or collapse into civil war.

aengus on October 15, 2009 at 2:08 PM

225 RogueOne  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:01:05pm

re: #188 Charles

I loved Kings X.

226 shutdown  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:01:44pm

Hmmm. I knew when I woke up this morning wanting to wash down a fistful of painkillers with a double bourbon that something had changed. Thanks to redstate, I now know what happened! My inner Rush is in good hands ... with redstate.

227 What, me worry?  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:02:10pm

re: #214 hokiepride

How about Keith Olbermann making a comment along the lines of "Hillary needs to be taken into a room by a guy and only the guy should come out"? (made during last years heated D primaries), does that sound like hate to you? Talk shows hosts in general are jerks and I avoid partisan shows both on the left or on the right.

I do too. I'm not a Keith O fan. I think Beck and Rush are worse than him, but that's probably because I'm liberal, I don't know. I think they all pretty much suck.

Hillary has had so many anti-feminist things said about her over the years, I'm assuming it bounces off now. Doesn't make it right, of course, but she seems to blow it off.

228 Kragar  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:02:30pm

re: #222 Guanxi88

Colonel Sanders, with his wee beady eyes.

Oh, you'll buy my chicken!

229 Neutral President  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:02:33pm

re: #212 Ben Hur

Why don't you click on the link to Bloomberg News in the spin-offs.

Soros money is very involved in the investment group.

Soros money is all over the place. Still does not mean that he said "stop that deal!" The point was that they were using conspiracy theory thinking to fill a gap between 2 points with no evidence.

230 sngnsgt  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:03:00pm

re: #210 spoosmith

It's fairly close so we will be able to make frequent visits, we better, or there will be hell to pay!!!

231 sattv4u2  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:03:23pm

re: #219 marjoriemoon

Okay ,, apples/ apples

Letterman gets 5.4 million a night
(remember ,, Beck topped at 3.4 for a special,,,usually gets 1.5)

Again,, thats out of over 130 MILLION voters this last election

And yes,, I know Letterman doesn't do a political show, al la Beck ,, but he was skewering Palin, did have Obama and Mccain on, so he does have influence

232 cliffster  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:03:31pm

re: #188 Charles

It must suck to have that much hatred inside. Gotta feel bad for the guy.

233 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:03:34pm

Poor little balloon kid.

234 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:03:46pm

re: #203 Oh no...Sand People!

I know- I've been a Rush supporter in the past. I used to love talk radio- and called in to the local shows a lot. Rush was the one who turned me on to conservatism, and I was fully behind the Contract with America.

But when I found blogs, I found a place where I didn't have to sit on the phone for twenty minutes to say half of what I wanted to say to the host, before getting cut off by them. Blogs allowed me to say all I wanted, when I wanted.

I tuned into Rush during the election, and I have to say- I was rather startled by him. It was obvious he's in with the religious right, and I just don't agree with continuing to allow them the voice they command. Now I look back and wonder what happened to the Rush I once thought I was listening to?

I think success has gone to his head, frankly. This isn't the man I thought he was, and I simply can't support him anymore. If he's feeling heat right now, he has no one to blame but himself, and that's the same for Stacy McCain, or any other bigoted jackass.

235 What, me worry?  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:03:47pm

I gotta jet. I'll see ya'll later!

236 sattv4u2  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:03:54pm

re: #233 Killgore Trout

Poor little balloon kid.

Is that a fat joke?
/

237 sattv4u2  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:04:35pm

BBL ,,, gotta make the pick the kid up at school trek

238 Randall Gross  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:04:36pm

re: #224 Killgore Trout

Hot Airhead comment of the day...

I'd wager that's a Fjordman/GoV reader

239 nutz4Tuna  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:04:46pm

Have any Rushbots invoked the "Avenue Q" defense yet?

240 cliffster  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:04:55pm

Anyone in here ever seen the movie Untraceable?

241 freetoken  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:04:58pm

re: #201 Dan Tanna


From Mark Steyn:

From your link of Mark Steyn:

He does his show every day with an off-mike black sidekick yakking in his ear (Mr. Snerdley) and he has a black guest-host (the great Walter Williams). More to the point, when I began guest-hosting for Rush, I was amazed to discover that George Soros pays a team of stenographers, many of them called Zachary, to work their tippy-tappy fingers to the bone for three hours transcribing everything Rush or his fill-ins say in the hope that their efforts will one day be rewarded and he will deliver the big career-detonating soundbite. Among the afficionados of this service are, as I discovered recently, America's "newspaper of record," which faithfully follows the George Soros typing pool and dutifully plasters any potentially damaging bon mot on page one.

Steyn is just being a tool here. Recommend people go read the Bloomberg article that Ben Hur put up. Limbaugh, like many of the super-rich, runs with the crowd of the super rich, rubs their elbows, and unwittingly or not are their allies.

Furthermore, "Steyn's defense" of Limbaugh that relies on the idea that one of the guest hosts being black, as well as the screener, misses the point entirely, as well as being the typical excuse used in all cases of race/creed disputes.

What Steyn is (intentionally) deaf to is the 20+ year history of Limbaugh crafting his product towards an audience that includes groups who feel aggrieved by the actions of modern civil rights movements and this nations attempt to address racial sins of the past. Limbaugh is the master at feeding the revanchist spirit, has been at it for decades, and it has made him very wealthy precisely because he is so good at it.

242 Kragar  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:06:01pm

re: #240 cliffster

Anyone in here ever seen the movie Untraceable?

aka Unwatchable

243 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:06:07pm

re: #239 nutz4Tuna

Have any Rushbots invoked the "Avenue Q" defense yet?

re: #240 cliffster

Anyone in here ever seen the movie Untraceable?

Do you like movies about gladiators?

244 freetoken  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:06:12pm

re: #224 Killgore Trout

It's the VDARE-ization of HA, which is the natural progression from the freeperization that has happened there.

245 cliffster  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:06:21pm

re: #233 Killgore Trout

Poor little balloon kid.

That's crazy stuff. Trying to picture a happy ending. Is it still going on? Damn this being at the office thing.

246 drogheda  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:06:25pm

re: #236 sattv4u2

No. Some kid in Denver, Colorado got into an experimental helium balloon craft his family was making and it floated off into the sky.

Google News link

247 hokiepride  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:06:30pm

re: #224 Killgore Trout

That's why monocultural nations like China, Japan or the Baltic Republics (Estonia, Latvia and Lithuinia) have always been bastions of democracy and freedom. Oh wait... (slaps hand on forehead). Can't believe that people(Hot Air poster, not you Killgore) believe just simplistic binary trash

248 shutdown  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:06:46pm

re: #243 Guanxi88

Do you like movies about gladiators?

Ever been to a Turkish Bath?

249 Kragar  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:07:10pm

re: #243 Guanxi88

Do you like movies about gladiators?

Ever been to a Turkish prison?

250 CommonCents  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:07:11pm

re: #240 cliffster

Anyone in here ever seen the movie Untraceable?

I watched it because Diane Lane was in it. Not overly impressed with the movie.

251 Achilles Tang  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:07:11pm

re: #186 bill in tx

I'm not a Limbaugh fan by any means. I don't like the guy, don't wish to be represented by him, and on the very few occasions I've listened to him (years ago) I found him to be juvenile and a self-important blowhard. The only thing he's ever done in life is get born to a man with a radio station.

But hey, if he wants to spend his money on a football team, why should anyone care? Let him buy whatever he wants. We're supposed to believe the NFL has standards?

So you wouldn't mind having him as a minority partner, but in the MSM being considered the only partner, and you the flunky?

252 nutz4Tuna  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:07:14pm

re: #243 Guanxi88

Do you like movies about gladiators?

I've been in a Turkish prison, so I'm not able to watch movies :(

253 sattv4u2  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:07:36pm

re: #246 drogheda

No. Some kid in Denver, Colorado got into an experimental helium balloon craft his family was making and it floated off into the sky.

Google News link

I know ,, I saw that upthread (Steve, I think)

Was tieing that in with the other upthread posts about fat!

254 What, me worry?  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:07:37pm

re: #231 sattv4u2

Okay ,, apples/ apples

Letterman gets 5.4 million a night
(remember ,, Beck topped at 3.4 for a special,,,usually gets 1.5)

Again,, thats out of over 130 MILLION voters this last election

And yes,, I know Letterman doesn't do a political show, al la Beck ,, but he was skewering Palin, did have Obama and Mccain on, so he does have influence

Hmmm well Letterman's a good example. He certainly does get political, even if the show is different than Beck. And everybody was doing election stuff last year at this time.

The point was about who influences who, correct? I think my problem is the kind of negativity that incites people to violence. Ok, so Letterman says nasty things about Bristol Palin. Letterman's a d*** for sure. I hate the man, but no one is going to shoot anyone for what he said about Bristol. Beck and Rush on the other hand...

255 nutz4Tuna  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:07:45pm

re: #248 imp_62

re: #249 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

256 enoughalready  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:07:50pm

Don't you ever wonder why there is no conservative version of Stephen Colbert?

257 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:07:59pm

re: #224 Killgore Trout

Hot Airhead comment of the day...

That person was apparently registered here too. But not any more.

258 shutdown  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:08:06pm

Ah, well. Daughter pickup. BBLL (be back later lizards)

259 PAUL_MACDONALD  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:08:25pm

re: #231 sattv4u2

It's not so much the numbers, but who they are influencing and why.

260 Stormy  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:08:27pm

re: #240 cliffster

Anyone in here ever seen the movie Untraceable?

In my Netflix queue... 3.6/5 overall, 3.4/5 by viewers like me, 3/4 by Ebert.

No, haven't watched it yet.

261 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:08:27pm

re: #234 Sharmuta

I know- I've been a Rush supporter in the past. I used to love talk radio- and called in to the local shows a lot. Rush was the one who turned me on to conservatism, and I was fully behind the Contract with America.

But when I found blogs, I found a place where I didn't have to sit on the phone for twenty minutes to say half of what I wanted to say to the host, before getting cut off by them. Blogs allowed me to say all I wanted, when I wanted.

I tuned into Rush during the election, and I have to say- I was rather startled by him. It was obvious he's in with the religious right, and I just don't agree with continuing to allow them the voice they command. Now I look back and wonder what happened to the Rush I once thought I was listening to?

I think success has gone to his head, frankly. This isn't the man I thought he was, and I simply can't support him anymore. If he's feeling heat right now, he has no one to blame but himself, and that's the same for Stacy McCain, or any other bigoted jackass.

I will admit, being in this part of the world, Philippines, I have not heard his broadcast for over a year and a half. So alot of what I am trying to defend is more of my own denial most likely, "Huh!? What?! Really!?...No way!" But, it just sucks when your 'heroes' are a lot less than heroic.

262 drogheda  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:08:43pm

re: #253 sattv4u2

I know ,, I saw that upthread (Steve, I think)

Was tieing that in with the other upthread posts about fat!

I must have missed those. My bad.

263 Kragar  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:08:52pm

re: #250 CommonCents

I watched it because Diane Lane was in it. Not overly impressed with the movie.

So I take it you watched Judge Dredd as well.

264 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:08:55pm

re: #143 Kosh's Shadow

That's a cheesy group.

No whey!

265 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:09:01pm

re: #244 freetoken

It's the VDARE-ization of HA, which is the natural progression from the freeperization that has happened there.

Absolutely. When they decided to let Stacy play in their little green room, it was an open invitation. Besides, Boss Lady has been at vdare for years, so why wouldn't that crowd feel comfortable in one of her venues?

266 sattv4u2  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:09:04pm

re: #256 enoughalready

Don't you ever wonder why there is no conservative version of Stephen Colbert?


There is. His name is Stephen Colbert

he's an equal opportunity satirist/ skewer!

267 cliffster  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:09:16pm

re: #242 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

aka Unwatchable

Agreed, but the notion that the best thing to do is NOT watch has parallels in reality. All of these personalities - they are only helped when we give them attention, even if that attention is, "what a moronic racist jackass". Like a trainwreck, you can't not watch. You can't not shout about them, even knowing that it only helps them.

268 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:09:36pm

re: #245 cliffster

Yeah, it;s still going on.

269 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:09:39pm

Who do they thnk he is? Obama?

270 sattv4u2  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:09:41pm

BBL

271 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:09:42pm

re: #242 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Let's propose that Limbaugh is actually NOT actually racist. That makes
some of his statements a cynical attack on the national community.

272 RogueOne  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:10:02pm

re: #229 ArchangelMichael

Soros is a dirtbag, not because of his political views, but how he's made his money off the backs of poor eastern european nations. The Romanian rosia montana mine, just being the latest. I'm hoping the soros linked investment group mentioned funding the checketts bid is just banking the cash, otherwise checketts should lose his bid based on Soros alone.

273 spoosmith  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:10:15pm

re: #224 Killgore Trout

Hot Airhead comment of the day...

That is nonsensical.

274 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:10:20pm

re: #254 marjoriemoon

Hell, I watch Letterman, and laugh when he's funny, no matter who's getting skewered. Letterman doesn't do anything but use current affairs and such as base material for humor. He's got political material, but he's not running a political show; people don't tune him in for guidance, input or suggestions on matters of current interest.

Beck et al? Well, they do political shows that are humorous to those of us who like watching people fall down stairs. You laugh and wince at the same time.

275 Dreader1962  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:10:29pm

re: #181 sngnsgt

OT

I came home from doing one of THE hardest things in life. I just placed a parent in a senior home. It will get easier as time passes, I know. I am a very hated person right now. There's just no way you can prepare yourself for this kind of thing. I know it's best for everyone involved.

I've been there - I had to put my mom in assisted living a couple years back. It didn't matter that it was an upscale place that cost me nearly $2,000/month; she could not accept it.

Fortunately, the real problem was that she was over-medicated for tremors and this was causing what appeared to be dementia. Adjusted the meds and she was able to live independently again. I know that is not the typical case, but since she was confused she could not grasp the reason she needed the constant nursing care.

276 cliffster  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:10:47pm

re: #268 Killgore Trout

Yeah, it;s still going on.

How are they going to fix it?

277 MinisterO  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:10:51pm

re: #159 Oh no...Sand People!

Am I therefore to be labeled a racist for it? How long in the past before it's 'the past'?

You're asking about the statute of limitations for offensive racist remarks. Without an apology to those offended or a change in behavior indicating sincere regret, that black mark stays on your soul forever.

278 ohpleaseno  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:11:03pm

re: #233 Killgore Trout

Poor little balloon kid.

I can't imagine how scared he must be.

279 enoughalready  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:11:17pm

re: #266 sattv4u2

Hahaha. But seriously.

280 Randall Gross  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:12:01pm

re: #261 Oh no...Sand People!

Basically he hasn't stopped talking about race since the election. He's trying to make that the issue in my eyes. Any news opportunity he gets to bring up race he takes pretty much.

281 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:13:22pm

re: #276 cliffster

The talking heads on tv are talking about poking a hole in it. Not sure how practical that would be. Reports that the balloon is slowly deflating.

282 Ojoe  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:13:27pm

re: #278 ohpleaseno

He may or may not be scared.

283 Cato the Elder  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:13:34pm

re: #139 Walter L. Newton

What does his size have to do with anything? Love him, hate him, agree with him, disagree with him, cheer the Checketts Group, damn the Checketts Group, why does anyone size come up in a discussion of business and politics.

It amazes me.

Does this mean no more Michael Moore jokes?

I tried to post this before from my phone. Hence the quote without comment above.

284 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:14:32pm

re: #278 ohpleaseno

I can't imagine how scared he must be.

re: #281 Killgore Trout

The talking heads on tv are talking about poking a hole in it. Not sure how practical that would be. Reports that the balloon is slowly deflating.

re: #282 Ojoe

He may or may not be scared.

Best wishes to all involved. I hope the worst he gets out of this is a good scolding, and a great story to tell when he's an adult.

285 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:14:43pm

re: #282 Ojoe

He may or may not be scared.

Hopefully he is dressed warmly and the air isn't too thin to breathe up there. Prayers for the little dude

286 RogueOne  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:14:48pm

I love Denver, but if you keep piling pot head after pot head in , this kinda stuff is going to happen.

287 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:15:10pm

re: #245 cliffster

That's crazy stuff. Trying to picture a happy ending. Is it still going on? Damn this being at the office thing.

At least the balloon is drifting away from the mountains, according to the radio spot I heard.

288 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:15:18pm

re: #261 Oh no...Sand People!

I will admit, being in this part of the world, Philippines, I have not heard his broadcast for over a year and a half. So alot of what I am trying to defend is more of my own denial most likely, "Huh!? What?! Really!?...No way!" But, it just sucks when your 'heroes' are a lot less than heroic.

Indeed. It's a little disillusioning, but things are not going to get better until we look at this problem in the face and confront it. Look at the trend on voters, and you can see this ugliness isn't going to bring voters back. Just the opposite- they're fleeing in droves. Independents are more numerous than either party, and the party who can grab them will win. What the right is doing is pushing away their own moderates, and alienating themselves from Reagan democrats. The path we're on is not the one that will bring us back. Rush isn't in this for conservatism- he's in it for him. Let him own his karma.

289 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:15:39pm

Sooo?
How much of his fortune is my share???
/

290 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:15:40pm

re: #280 Thanos

Basically he hasn't stopped talking about race since the election. He's trying to make that the issue in my eyes. Any news opportunity he gets to bring up race he takes pretty much.

Yeah, I am noticing a trend on everything I read 'blogwise' the meme is trying to be 'not racist' yet they mysteriously do everything they can to come as close to the racist line as possible.

I dare them to only focus on policy. This is complete crap and infantile and it's disheartening to see the depths in which we've, the right, have dropped. Obama has given us a truckload of policy to deconstruct and use against him in the arena of ideas, as if skin color has any bearing ever on anything in this situation...or ANY situation for that matter...

291 spoosmith  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:16:01pm

re: #256 enoughalready

Don't you ever wonder why there is no conservative version of Stephen Colbert?

Because they think is IS conservative.

[Link: politicalwire.com...]

292 Cato the Elder  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:16:10pm

re: #155 dugmartsch

Huh?

The larger point is that the market shifting towards organic food production will increase the amount of land necessary to produce the same amount of food and increase soil erosion from tilling which is likely to do more damage to the environment than well timed pesticides and natural gas used for compost. Certainly as populations continue to climb the need for more nutritious and more bountiful production per acre is going to be a major concern, even in developed countries.

A lot of our cultural surplus is derived from the fact that food is disgustingly cheap. A shift to industrial organic food would change that.

It's called freedom. You get to choose what you eat, based on things like taste, price, and now, where and how it's grown/produced.

If there's a market for organic food (obviously there is), ain't nothing wrong with that.

Personally I believe half of it is probably bogus, but then I'm not the one paying for it.

293 Ben Hur  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:16:11pm

re: #286 RogueOne

I love Denver, but if you keep piling pot head after pot head in , this kinda stuff is going to happen.

I would kindly ask you to refrain from blaming the weed.

Thank you.

294 Ojoe  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:16:33pm

re: #285 _RememberTonyC

The balloon will slowly lose altitude & where it comes down will determine a lot, as will the wind speed at the ground. power lines will be a major hazard.

295 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:17:17pm

We got another link from Kos today.

296 Dreader1962  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:17:24pm

re: #294 Ojoe

The balloon will slowly lose altitude & where it comes down will determine a lot, as will the wind speed at the ground. power lines will be a major hazard.

It's on CNN for those of us who refuse to watch Fox News.

297 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:17:39pm

re: #283 Cato the Elder

Does this mean no more Michael Moore jokes?

I tried to post this before from my phone. Hence the quote without comment above.

Personally for me, yes, I don't like seeing anyone being attacked for their size or looks or sexuality. It's amazing to me that we can comment here about racism, which deals with physically what someone is (you know, black, white what ever), but putting someone down for their other physical traits is ok.

Just wrong in my opinion.

298 Randall Gross  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:17:55pm

re: #290 Oh no...Sand People!

It well might be a bit of a double standard, but when the right talks about race we get the L o s e. It's stupid to dwell on race, or on how the left miscalls racism when there are so many meaty policy, legislative, and strategic issues to build opposition on.

299 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:18:07pm

re: #286 RogueOne

I love Denver, but if you keep piling pot head after pot head in , this kinda stuff is going to happen.

What the fuck are you talking about?

300 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:18:37pm

re: #295 Killgore Trout

We got another link from Kos today.

*waves to the koslings*

301 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:18:46pm

re: #295 Killgore Trout

We got another link from Kos today.

Just what we need. A note to the Koskids, we will never be your friend even if we are the enemy of your enemy right now.

302 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:19:19pm

re: #294 Ojoe

The balloon will slowly lose altitude & where it comes down will determine a lot, as will the wind speed at the ground. power lines will be a major hazard.

I can't help but think this is not going to end well ... G-d protect that kid ...

303 Ben Hur  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:19:23pm

re: #300 Sharmuta

*waves to the koslings*

No I HAVE seen everything!

304 Cato the Elder  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:19:44pm

re: #297 Walter L. Newton

Personally for me, yes, I don't like seeing anyone being attacked for their size or looks or sexuality. It's amazing to me that we can comment here about racism, which deals with physically what someone is (you know, black, white what ever), but putting someone down for their other physical traits is ok.

Just wrong in my opinion.

Well, there goes my new Geert Wilders hair joke.

305 Stanghazi  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:19:54pm

I don't think this balloon ride is going to end well.

Kid's name is Falcon, hope that helps.

306 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:20:02pm

re: #298 Thanos

It well might be a bit of a double standard, but when the right talks about race we get the L o s e. It's stupid to dwell on race, or on how the left miscalls racism when there are so many meaty policy, legislative, and strategic issues to build opposition on.

But, but...that would mean we could win an election. We can't have that..
///

307 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:20:04pm

re: #301 Honorary Yooper

Just what we need. A note to the Koskids, we will never be your friend even if we are the enemy of your enemy right now.

I wonder how sura is coping. Might be quite the conundrum for that little cherry picker.

308 Kragar  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:20:26pm

re: #303 Ben Hur

No I HAVE seen everything!

But you will note she didn't say what she waved at them.

309 drogheda  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:21:35pm

re: #304 Cato the Elder

Well, there goes my new Geert Wilders hair joke.

Isn't there an exception for blondes?

310 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:22:25pm

The balloon looks about 25% deflated now.

311 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:22:42pm

re: #303 Ben Hur

No I HAVE seen everything!

Don't worry. I'm not interested in hanging with Screw Them's readers.

312 Cato the Elder  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:23:14pm

re: #309 drogheda

Isn't there an exception for blondes?

Maybe there's an exception for things you can control.

313 [deleted]  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:23:16pm
314 tradewind  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:23:16pm

re: #295 Killgore Trout
Is that supposed to make our legs tingle?

315 SixDegrees  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:23:31pm

re: #256 enoughalready

Don't you ever wonder why there is no conservative version of Stephen Colbert?

Fox tried it already. Don't you remember The Half-Hour News Hour?

No, of course you don't. It was so horrendously bad it was yanked almost immediately to stem the hemorrhaging of viewers. It made the film of the crash of the Hindenberg look hilarious in comparison.

316 ohpleaseno  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:23:31pm

re: #282 Ojoe

He may or may not be scared.

All 4 of my kids would be. Tough to generalize, but I'd bet he is.

317 RogueOne  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:23:37pm

re: #288 Sharmuta

I'm going to have to disagree.
[Link: www.rasmussenreports.com...]

has party ID difference of 5, 37-32, in favor of the dems. I've mentioned before the Repubs are leading in the VA and NJ governor races and in the generic ballot for the congressional races next year. The Obama numbers are way down thanks to losing independents, almost a 20 pt swing in just a few months.

318 [deleted]  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:23:39pm
319 freetoken  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:23:41pm

re: #313 andreaSF

3..2..1..

320 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:24:28pm

re: #313 andreaSF

Weak.

321 freetoken  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:24:36pm

They're really coming on now... Limbaugh, master of the flouncers?

322 Ojoe  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:24:40pm

re: #316 ohpleaseno

Some kids like adventure.

323 FrogMarch  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:24:51pm

Holy cow - this is nuts. watch and gasp.

324 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:25:02pm

There's also a link coming in from Rush's members only site, to the Stacy McCain thread downstairs. 24 hits.

325 Kragar  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:25:12pm

Thats 2

326 ohpleaseno  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:25:13pm

re: #319 freetoken

3..2..1..

damn, i read her post, thought to myself "hmmm..." scrollled down a bit, read yours, scrolled back up and poof! all within about 5 seconds.

327 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:25:36pm

re: #313 andreaSF

Um, LGF never was, and never will be indistinguishable from the Daily Kos. For one, many opinions are here instead of the groupthink found at dKos or Hot Air. For two, Charles does cover the WOT as well as idiotarianisms of all stripes. For three, why are you trolling?

328 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:25:37pm

Two Limbaugh flounces in rapid succession!

329 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:26:29pm

re: #318 jpd158

OMG! Standards are being applied equally to all idiot parties! Whatever shall we do?

Sucks when it's your sacred cow gettin' gored, doesn't it.

330 ohpleaseno  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:26:35pm

re: #328 Charles

Two Limbaugh flounces in rapid succession!

justice is swift and merciless

331 enoughalready  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:26:39pm

re: #315 SixDegrees

Hehehehe. Why am I not surprised. Well, the thing is - I don't have a TV. We got rid of it when we had our first kid and after a month or two realized that we were much happier without it.

332 Ben Hur  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:26:48pm

re: #323 FrogMarch
OMG

333 SeaMonkey  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:27:24pm

re: #330 ohpleaseno

I missed 'em, were they good?

334 Cato the Elder  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:27:46pm

Solution for the balloon fiasco: Fly past and shoot once with a .22 rifle.

Balloon floats gently to the ground.

335 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:28:00pm

Five hate mails so far today.

336 CommonCents  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:28:22pm

re: #263 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So I take it you watched Judge Dredd as well.

Haven't seen it, but I might now.

337 ohpleaseno  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:28:45pm

Wait, he is IN the balloon?

338 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:29:10pm

re: #337 ohpleaseno

Wait, he is IN the balloon?

Yes.

339 Ben Hur  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:29:13pm

re: #337 ohpleaseno

Wait, he is IN the balloon?

No.

He IS the balloon!

340 RogueOne  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:29:38pm

re: #299 Walter L. Newton

Outside of california, I have never seen so many damn dirty hippies in one place in my life. I spent 6 months there last year trying to get a damn job finished and had a hell of a time finding people who actually wanted to work. If not for immigrants I'd still be there trying to finish.

Plus, the kids name is Falcon. Hippie parents who don't know how to tie a damn knot.

BTW, I liked it so much I'm headed out for holloween.

341 Spider Mensch  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:30:17pm

re: #334 Cato the Elder

Solution for the balloon fiasco: Fly past and shoot once with a .22 rifle.

Balloon floats gently to the ground.

The balloon is moving at about 25+ mph
what if the shot is off buy a hair..and the kid gets shot?

342 spoosmith  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:30:26pm

re: #315 SixDegrees

Fox tried it already. Don't you remember The Half-Hour News Hour?

No, of course you don't. It was so horrendously bad it was yanked almost immediately to stem the hemorrhaging of viewers. It made the film of the crash of the Hindenberg look hilarious in comparison.

Is Red Eye still on? Is it still ghastly?

343 freetoken  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:31:11pm

re: #337 ohpleaseno

Sad to say... if the kid is inside the balloon, what are the chances he has suffocated to death?

344 ohpleaseno  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:31:18pm

re: #341 Spider Mensch

The balloon is moving at about 25+ mph
what if the shot is off buy a hair..and the kid gets shot?

Just get Palin in the helicopter. Tell her it's a wolf.

345 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:31:20pm

re: #315 SixDegrees

Fox tried it already. Don't you remember The Half-Hour News Hour?

No, of course you don't. It was so horrendously bad it was yanked almost immediately to stem the hemorrhaging of viewers. It made the film of the crash of the Hindenberg look hilarious in comparison.

Watch Red Eye some time. It's the only talk show I watch, and one of the funniest things on tv. You can watch entire episodes on hulu.

346 KingKenrod  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:31:20pm

re: #334 Cato the Elder

Solution for the balloon fiasco: Fly past and shoot once with a .22 rifle.

Balloon floats gently to the ground.

They say it is already losing air.

347 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:31:30pm

I'm praying he's hidding at his buddies house cause he know's how much work his pops put into that thing!!
Hope they don't try to snag it with a chopper...

348 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:31:31pm

re: #340 RogueOne

I was born in the early '70s, so maybe I missed something. Are hippies known for building experimental aircraft that actually work?

349 Gearhead  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:31:56pm

re: #341 Spider Mensch

The balloon is moving at about 25+ mph
what if the shot is off buy a hair..and the kid gets shot?

Could one fly a helicopter over it and force it down with the rotor wash?

350 Kragar  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:32:22pm

re: #343 freetoken

Sad to say... if the kid is inside the balloon, what are the chances he has suffocated to death?

After 2+ hours? close to 100%

351 FrogMarch  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:32:26pm

re: #332 Ben Hur

OMG

I'm freaking out.

352 Four More Tears  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:32:36pm

re: #343 freetoken

Sad to say... if the kid is inside the balloon, what are the chances he has suffocated to death?

This is exactly why I'm not feeling terribly optimistic about this. I dearly hope I'm wrong.

353 keithgabryelski  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:32:45pm

re: #343 freetoken

Sad to say... if the kid is inside the balloon, what are the chances he has suffocated to death?

it went no further than 1.5 miles up. He's probably cold (very) but not suffocating.

354 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:32:51pm

They're reporting that the kid might have fallen out at some point.

355 Ben Hur  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:33:02pm

re: #351 FrogMarch

I'm freaking out.

YOU'RE freaking out?

356 Kragar  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:33:10pm

re: #349 Gearhead

Could one fly a helicopter over it and force it down with the rotor wash?

Or get it to flip, spin, or crash right into the ground.

357 Cato the Elder  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:33:11pm

re: #341 Spider Mensch

The balloon is moving at about 25+ mph
what if the shot is off buy a hair..and the kid gets shot?

You're kidding, right? A speed of 25 mph can be matched briefly by a plane and steadily by a copter. And a the shot can be fired from an angle that would make any such miss virtually impossible. I bet even Sarah Palin could make that shot.

358 tradewind  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:33:13pm

re: #342 spoosmith

It's on. It varies from bad to pretty funny, depending on what kind of mood Greg is operating within and the news otd.

359 ohpleaseno  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:33:19pm

If the balloon is helium, then there is a chance he is suffocatin.

360 KingKenrod  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:33:23pm

The balloon appears to be descending slowly. 500ft up now.

There is concern about suffocation and/or the cold (40F).

361 SixDegrees  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:33:25pm

re: #343 freetoken

Sad to say... if the kid is inside the balloon, what are the chances he has suffocated to death?

No, I don't believe that's correct. There's a gondola of some sort for passengers below the balloon itself. I'd imagine the balloon is sealed to contain the helium it's filled with.

The more immediate problem is likely exposure.

362 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:33:27pm

re: #355 Ben Hur

YOU'RE freaking out?

I can't do it... must... not... click...

363 drogheda  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:33:33pm

re: #349 Gearhead

Could one fly a helicopter over it and force it down with the rotor wash?

I think that would be a disaster. Rotor wash is so intense. It'd deform the balloon badly. Might collapse it or tear it.

364 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:33:42pm

re: #349 Gearhead

It will colapse the "cell"...fall like a rock!

365 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:33:56pm

re: #310 Killgore Trout

The balloon looks about 25% deflated now.

Nobody cares about the real estate market. What's going on in in Denver?

366 Gearhead  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:34:04pm

re: #356 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Or get it to flip, spin, or crash right into the ground.

OK, I admit - maybe not the best idea...

367 Buck  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:34:08pm

re: #334 Cato the Elder

Solution for the balloon fiasco: Fly past and shoot once with a .22 rifle.

Balloon floats gently to the ground.

Looks like he is coming in for a landing

368 Cato the Elder  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:34:18pm

What - he's inside the freaking balloon? I take it all back.

Holy merde.

369 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:34:20pm

re: #340 RogueOne

Outside of california, I have never seen so many damn dirty hippies in one place in my life. I spent 6 months there last year trying to get a damn job finished and had a hell of a time finding people who actually wanted to work. If not for immigrants I'd still be there trying to finish.

Plus, the kids name is Falcon. Hippie parents who don't know how to tie a damn knot.

BTW, I liked it so much I'm headed out for holloween.

It's no wonder, with an attitude like that. Your story is purely anecdotal. Stay away.

370 FrogMarch  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:34:23pm

re: #355 Ben Hur

YOU'RE freaking out?


OK - that poor kid is long past freak out stage. I hope he's alive! How is that thing going to land?

371 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:34:38pm

Let me know what happens!!

372 tradewind  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:34:39pm

re: #353 keithgabryelski

Dear Lord, I hope he makes it somehow...
as far as the oxygen goes, he'd be okay till around eight thou, and then he'd start feeling effects, but wouldn't pass out until over eleven.

373 FrogMarch  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:35:49pm

woot soft landing!

374 shutdown  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:35:56pm

Okay help me out here: who the heck is in a balloon??? Link please.

375 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:36:10pm

re: #373 FrogMarch

woot soft landing!

REALLY!?

Is the kid ok!?

376 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:36:12pm

re: #359 ohpleaseno

If the balloon is helium, then there is a chance he is suffocatin.

He's in a BASKET (if he hasen't fallen out) attached to the balloon, not inside the friggin balloon itself, according to all reports I am reading, and I am in the Denver area, and listening to the radio.

It has just landed, they will know something in a few minutes, it did not crash.

377 FrogMarch  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:36:14pm

He just landed - so soft.

Now - is he alive?

378 Spider Mensch  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:36:17pm

re: #357 Cato the Elder

You're kidding, right? A speed of 25 mph can be matched briefly by a plane and steadily by a copter. And a the shot can be fired from an angle that would make any such miss virtually impossible. I bet even Sarah Palin could make that shot.


I asked a question...I'm not a sniper or a hunter, or a rescue helicopter pilot..but I guess you are...

379 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:36:25pm

It's on the ground!!

380 Ben Hur  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:36:25pm

There looking at it like it's a giant doughnut!

Get him out!

381 Gearhead  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:36:34pm

I don't want to watch live. I want to fast forward to the part where he lands safely, runs up to his parents, and kicks his dad in the nuts.

382 tradewind  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:37:01pm

re: #256 enoughalready

Not really.
If you think about it, there's no other any version of Stephen Colbert.

383 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:37:11pm

Wow- what the heck is a kid doing with a balloon like that?

384 former_secret_agent  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:37:12pm

where's the kid?

385 ohpleaseno  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:37:19pm

Guys, unless I'm an idiot, he's breathing pure helium. What's the likelihood that any oxygen is in there to breathe?

386 SixDegrees  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:37:30pm

re: #357 Cato the Elder

You're kidding, right? A speed of 25 mph can be matched briefly by a plane and steadily by a copter. And a the shot can be fired from an angle that would make any such miss virtually impossible. I bet even Sarah Palin could make that shot.

Without knowing the details of construction, I'd be concerned over a catastrophic failure of the balloon's envelope. It isn't likely, but it isn't completely out of the question, either.

It seems as though it's descending fairly rapidly anyway, so best to just wait things out. If it were climbing, or had leveled off at a few thousand feet, more aggressive action might be warranted, but it sounds as though things will work themselves out fairly quickly.

387 cliffster  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:37:35pm

dude, get him out! It's not area 51!

388 tradewind  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:37:40pm

re: #381 Gearhead

What you said.

389 RogueOne  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:37:46pm

re: #348 Slumbering Behemoth

Not that I know of. Pot helps come up with crazy ideas, bad motor skills, and poor child naming ability.

390 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:37:56pm

The suspense is killing me!

391 FrogMarch  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:38:01pm

The kids name is "Falcon".

why aren't they ripping this thing open to find him? No kid yet.

392 shutdown  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:38:17pm

Thanks for nuffin, people.
[Link: www.cnn.com...]

393 SixDegrees  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:38:44pm

re: #374 imp_62

Okay help me out here: who the heck is in a balloon??? Link please.

CNN, front page. Six year old.

394 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:38:55pm

re: #389 RogueOne

Not that I know of. Pot helps come up with crazy ideas, bad motor skills, and poor child naming ability.

You're prejudices are the same as Rush's racism. Sickening.

395 FrogMarch  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:39:02pm

[Link: www.breitbart.tv...]

live -

396 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:39:13pm

looks like he's not in the balloon

397 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:39:29pm

re: #396 Killgore Trout

looks like he's not in the balloon

Ugh...

398 former_secret_agent  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:39:37pm

are they really sure the kid was in there?

399 Cato the Elder  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:39:44pm

re: #389 RogueOne

Not that I know of. Pot helps come up with crazy ideas, bad motor skills, and poor child naming ability.

As opposed to whatever you're drinking while dissing that kids' parents when you don't know them from Adam?

I rarely quote Mandy, but go piss up a rope.

400 bosforus  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:40:01pm

It's that darned MIT student trying to send a home-made helium balloon and baby into space!

401 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:40:12pm

re: #396 Killgore Trout

looks like he's not in the balloon

And earlier report (live, I'm listening to the radio) said they weren't sure if he had fallen out earlier, during the initial ascent.

402 shutdown  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:40:17pm

So the AP reported he fell out of the balloon at some point. Oh, Lord.

403 Ben Hur  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:40:19pm

re: #389 RogueOne

Not that I know of. Pot helps come up with crazy ideas, bad motor skills, and poor child naming ability.

SILENCE!

404 FrogMarch  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:40:35pm

No kid? WTF?

405 Cato the Elder  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:40:46pm

Oh shitshitshit...

406 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:40:47pm

Watching the pansies of the internet flame out over Rush is a lot like watching this.

How the hell does someone become so emotionally invested in a squawking head? A wealthy, spoiled, whiny brat of a squawking head, at that.

407 Buck  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:40:48pm

No boy...wow... did he fall out on the way?

408 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:40:49pm

re: #71 nccanuck

So noone sees the irony in that whatever Limbaugh said was enough to get his chances of buying into a sport of spolied babies trashed and yet, we elected a man who sat listening to Rev Wright for 20+ years and didn't that that was bad and stop him from being President.
I think people are missing the point of the article, why its OK for Obama and the left to make racist comments and yet a private citizen is taken to the wall for it. Just saying.

If one person or body had made both decisions, it might be reasonable to act as thought they were connected. That is not the case.

409 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:40:57pm

Wow !
re: #397 Oh no...Sand People!
I told ya!
He's hidding out till he comes up with an explianation!

410 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:41:06pm

re: #403 Ben Hur

SILENCE!

We know. Don't rag on the weed.

411 FrogMarch  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:41:06pm

There is no kid inside.

412 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:41:10pm

re: #404 FrogMarch

No kid? WTF?

And earlier report (live, I'm listening to the radio KOA) said they weren't sure if he had fallen out earlier, during the initial ascent.

413 cliffster  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:41:15pm

Maybe they were wrong, maybe he wasn't in there ever

414 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:41:25pm

re: #407 Buck

No boy...wow... did he fall out on the way?

And earlier report (live, I'm listening to the radio) said they weren't sure if he had fallen out earlier, during the initial ascent.

415 Kragar  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:41:32pm

re: #409 reloadingisnotahobby

Wow !

I told ya!
He's hidding out till he comes up with an explianation!

Or he fell.

416 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:41:52pm

re: #396 Killgore Trout

looks like he's not in the balloon

I guess we'll have to wait for developments. Hope the kid is ok.

417 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:41:52pm

The dramatic stylish prose in that article has really inspired me...to go take a nap.

418 spoosmith  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:42:07pm

re: #389 RogueOne

Not that I know of. Pot helps come up with crazy ideas, bad motor skills, and poor child naming ability.

I have to disagree about the motor skills. Craziest idea I ever had on pot was how good a peanut butter and fruit loop sandwich would be (toasted, of course on french bread). It was crazy. Crazy good.

419 Ben Hur  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:42:15pm

Saying he was in there made you watch, didn't it?

420 SixDegrees  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:42:17pm

re: #413 cliffster

Maybe they were wrong, maybe he wasn't in there ever

Time to hunker down and wait for resolution. Could still be a good outcome, but I'm rapidly losing hope.

421 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:42:17pm

re: #82 Mikey_Dallas

Charles, since you were complaining the other day about how YOUR Wiki entry had been modified, why do you automatically assume that everything on someone else's Wiki page is 100% true and correct? I don't know if what you quoted is true or not, but isn't it a rush to judgment (no pun intended) to make that assumption?

Ain't no rush. Limbaugh's record has been building for decades, and exists independent of Wikipedia.

422 tradewind  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:42:23pm

re: #403 Ben Hur

There's this amendment thingy...

423 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:42:30pm

re: #389 RogueOne

I believe you're thinking of alcohol, not pot. Meh.

424 FrogMarch  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:42:33pm

re: #412 Walter L. Newton

And earlier report (live, I'm listening to the radio KOA) said they weren't sure if he had fallen out earlier, during the initial ascent.

OMG.

425 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:42:40pm

re: #415 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Don't go there just yet!
Please!

426 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:42:58pm

re: #85 Mikey_Dallas

Yes, but WOULD they turn him down?

Who cares? Let's worry about that when we get to it.

427 FrogMarch  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:43:09pm

Authorities searched the home of the kid previously - no kid there either.

428 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:43:13pm

re: #423 Slumbering Behemoth

I believe you're thinking of alcohol, not pot. Meh.

Meth?

429 RogueOne  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:43:28pm

re: #394 Walter L. Newton

LOL. I apologize. I did mention I loved the town didn't I? Where else, outside of mexico, can you buy an oz for $60?

I've been trying to bring up KBPI, best station ever, on my blackberry for the last 20 damn mins. Am I forgiven?

430 freetoken  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:43:43pm

re: #406 Slumbering Behemoth

Wa
How the hell does someone become so emotionally invested in a squawking head?

Everyone wants to be reinforced in their worldview, and Limbaugh does that everyday for them.

431 Kragar  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:44:16pm

re: #425 reloadingisnotahobby

Don't go there just yet!
Please!

I'm Mr. Worst Case Scenario. If someone I'm supposed to meet is 10 minutes late, I assume they died in a fiery car crash.

432 Bagua  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:44:22pm

re: #415 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Or he fell.

Sad story.

433 former_secret_agent  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:44:27pm

the boy's ok...just heard

434 RogueOne  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:44:31pm

re: #411 FrogMarch

I thought he was in it?

435 bosforus  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:44:46pm

re: #433 former_secret_agent

the boy's ok...just heard

From...?

436 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:44:58pm

re: #113 nccanuck

Lets put it another way then. The sheer and utter hypocrisy of the NFL and those in it that condemned him should be enough to say no more paying to see these cry babies play or supporting the owners of the teams that came out on it. I could give a rats ass that Limbaugh doesn't get to buy in, the huge double standard when it comes to race is what is the issue along with hypocrites, I mean really, do guys like Shaprton and Jackson really have a leg to stand on with this.


Sharpton and Jackson are in the NFL?

437 Kragar  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:45:09pm

re: #433 former_secret_agent

the boy's ok...just heard

Need more than that, whats the deal?

438 former_secret_agent  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:45:15pm

Don't know if he was in it or not, but just heard on the radio he's fine.

439 Cato the Elder  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:45:20pm

re: #433 former_secret_agent

the boy's ok...just heard

What?

440 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:45:55pm

re: #428 Mad Al-Jaffee

Meth?

Oooh meth, Mmmm meth.

441 simoom  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:46:01pm

RedState: How Limbaugh’s embodiment of MLK’s dream changed my life

Rush was the embodiment of the character content, color-blind dream of Martin Luther King, Jr. that became my dream in my youth.

So it is with great sadness that I see a man whose complete absence of racism made me receptive to his conservative message, is now vilified by the ignorant and the vile, as the antithesis.

//rofl

442 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:46:03pm

re: #429 RogueOne

LOL. I apologize. I did mention I loved the town didn't I? Where else, outside of mexico, can you buy an oz for $60?

I've been trying to bring up KBPI, best station ever, on my blackberry for the last 20 damn mins. Am I forgiven?

KBPI is in Fort Worth/Dallas... and what the fuck does that have to do with Denver? And if you know the price of pot in Denver, you evidently hang out with the wrong people when you are here.

I've lived in the Denver area for 20 years, and I actually only know 3 or 4 people that smoke pot, and I am in the live theatre business, work with "artist" every week.

And, on another note, fuck off and stay away from Denver.

443 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:46:23pm

re: #431 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I had the whole neighborhood,Police Dept,Fire Dept.. and family
searching for me for a day!
I was behind the back seat of VW bug...sound asleep!
I was a stinker!

444 Gearhead  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:46:24pm

Dang. I was gonna be good and not wander into LGF during work today, and then this kid and the balloon...gah!

445 Ben Hur  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:46:36pm

re: #438 former_secret_agent

Don't know if he was in it or not, but just heard on the radio he's fine.

I question the timing!

Had us glued to the TV! They knew he was safe! Said he was in balloon!

446 Neutral President  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:46:46pm

re: #436 SanFranciscoZionist

Sharpton and Jackson are in the NFL?

I keep seeing them mentioned. I'm also wondering WTF do they have to do with the price of Tea in China?

447 lostlakehiker  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:46:49pm

In the category of "racism is dying out", we have this spot of good news: interracial marriage a political plus. From the article:

Gallup surveys indicate that only 48 percent of Americans approved of marriage between blacks and whites as recently as 1994, a number that had risen to 77 percent by 2007.

Other barriers fell long ago: Phil Gramm, for example, a prominent conservative elected to both the House and Senate from Texas, is married to woman of Korean heritage who was born in Hawaii. This year, in deeply conservative South Carolina, state Sen. Nikki Haley, who is of Indian descent, has put her husband, who is white, and their children front and center in her campaign for governor.

“It’s a total nonissue,” said her spokesman, Tim Pearson.


As it should be, Spike Lee's opinion on the matter notwithstanding.

448 FrogMarch  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:47:01pm

9 news: annoying interview with neighbor. I have no idea what's going on.

449 RogueOne  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:47:06pm

re: #442 Walter L. Newton

106.7 KBPI, Denver. Finally came up. According to them they don't know if the kid is in it or not.

450 Cato the Elder  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:48:07pm

re: #449 RogueOne

106.7 KBPI, Denver. Finally came up. According to them they don't know if the kid is in it or not.

Why don't you tell us some more about his dirty hippie parents and make fun of his name again, asshole?

451 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:48:34pm

re: #430 freetoken

Yeah, I like conversing with people of like minds and similar opinions as I have, but I have never been so weak of will and so insecure in my postilions to get as emotionally invested in a squawking head as these flouncing dittoheads.

452 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:49:02pm

re: #449 RogueOne

106.7 KBPI, Denver. Finally came up. According to them they don't know if the kid is in it or not.

My mistake, I was thinking of WBAP... still stay the fuck away from Denver.

Thank you :)

453 Yashmak  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:49:02pm

re: #441 simoom

Sounds like the sort of thing said by someone trying to convince themselves that what they're saying is true.

454 Ben Hur  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:49:10pm

re: #450 Cato the Elder

Why don't you tell us some more about his dirty hippie parents and make fun of his name again, asshole?

Uh...

455 lurking faith  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:49:21pm

Live video shows the balloon on the ground with no kid in it.

456 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:49:27pm

re: #205 Ben Hur

Mr. Snerdley is black?

Radio is a great thing, isn't it? Yes, apparently Mr. Snerdley is black. We're not sure whether he's thick-skinned, or insane, or just really, really likes Rush's show.

457 tradewind  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:50:02pm

re: #421 SanFranciscoZionist
The two money quotes that got every one so lathered are wiki fabrications. Networks other than Fox have searched and been unable to produce them. The wiki author can easily be shown via search to spend a great deal of time compiling quotes useful for trashing Republicans and conservatives... it's a substitute for real work, I guess.
Limbaugh has said enough provocative stuff in his twenty years on the air that actual quotes are easily searched and soundbytes are available , those two were not.
Didn't matter. He was NFL toast for his McNabb opinion, years ago.
If the Democrats are pinning their stay-on-top hopes on this strategy, they may want to rethink.

458 freetoken  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:50:05pm

re: #456 SanFranciscoZionist

Perhaps he is just paid well?

459 RogueOne  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:50:06pm

re: #450 Cato the Elder

It was a joke. Didn't realize I'd hit such a nerve, goodness.

460 SixDegrees  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:50:09pm

re: #433 former_secret_agent

the boy's ok...just heard

I've been running some numbers based on very rough estimates of the balloon's size. I keep coming up with a lifting capacity of less than 100 pounds. Kid plus gondola plus balloon material...hard to say, but awfully close to the limit, I'd bet. I'm wondering if he was ever in it in the first place.

461 Ben Hur  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:50:14pm

You can hear the disappointment in her voice.

462 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:50:24pm

The reactions to Rush's new status as Most Oppressed Person EVAR! continue to be comedy gold, though none so good as RedState's. Here is Big Hollywood:

Quite simply, what is happening to Rush is beyond outrageous and frankly dangerous to the property and free speech rights of all Americans.

Bonus whining:

That’s right. Serena Williams, who recently threatened bodily harm to a lines woman on national television, is a part owner of the Dolphins. I must have missed the hand wringing from anyone associated with the NFL or the media about whether she was fit to be an NFL owner. Oh wait, I forgot. She is a black woman and is therefore beyond such scrutiny.

The post wouldn't be complete without its photoshop of Rush and his cigar in front of a giant Constitution, with a stripe of red white and blue.

Can't. Stop. Laughing.

463 nccanuck  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:50:37pm

re: #446 ArchangelMichael

Because they stuck there big frikkin noses into the whole thing and made it a political issue, not business.

464 Ben Hur  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:50:49pm

re: #456 SanFranciscoZionist

Radio is a great thing, isn't it? Yes, apparently Mr. Snerdley is black. We're not sure whether he's thick-skinned, or insane, or just really, really likes Rush's show.

There are black conservatives, you know.

465 Bagua  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:50:57pm

re: #459 RogueOne

It was a joke. Didn't realize I'd hit such a nerve, goodness.

You think it's funny to joke about a tragedy involving a 6 year old child and mock and slander his parents.

Piss off.

466 Yashmak  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:51:32pm

re: #460 SixDegrees

I've been running some numbers based on very rough estimates of the balloon's size. I keep coming up with a lifting capacity of less than 100 pounds. Kid plus gondola plus balloon material...hard to say, but awfully close to the limit, I'd bet. I'm wondering if he was ever in it in the first place.

Wouldn't be too surprising if the kid accidentally launched the thing without actually being in it, was terrified of the consequences, and hid nearby.

467 Kragar  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:51:45pm

re: #460 SixDegrees

I've been running some numbers based on very rough estimates of the balloon's size. I keep coming up with a lifting capacity of less than 100 pounds. Kid plus gondola plus balloon material...hard to say, but awfully close to the limit, I'd bet. I'm wondering if he was ever in it in the first place.

They think something broke off the balloon early in the flight, could have been the gondola with the kid.

468 Ben Hur  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:51:48pm

re: #462 iceweasel

The reactions to Rush's new status as Most Oppressed Person EVAR! continue to be comedy gold, though none so good as RedState's. Here is Big Hollywood:

The post wouldn't be complete without its photoshop of Rush and his cigar in front of a giant Constitution, with a stripe of red white and blue.

Can't. Stop. Laughing.

Comparing apples and oranges.

Serena's wasn't racism. It was roid rage.

469 FrogMarch  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:51:59pm

Considering everyone thought this 6 year old kid was INSIDE of this balloon - this is one weird story. There is no kid. Did he fall out? Is there something more nefarious going on? Was there a second compartment that dislodged? No idea.

470 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:52:10pm

re: #413 cliffster

Maybe they were wrong, maybe he wasn't in there ever

I hope. I hope. I hope.

471 Gearhead  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:52:18pm

re: #464 Ben Hur

There are black conservatives, you know.

I know a few personally - sane, thick-skinned, and good company.

472 Velvet Elvis  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:52:36pm

Internet rumour: Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Khamenei, 'is dead'

Over the past month, rumors circulated that he was in a coma and his ruthless son Mojtaba was ruling (with Ahmadi-Nejad’s help) in his father’s name … Denial of Khamenei Senior’s death has to overcome some visible changes:

1. Government buildings are being draped in black cloth. (Reports on this come from multiple Twitters).

2. All Islamic Iranian TV announcers have suddenly turned to wearind all black clothing.

3. Bassiji Suppression forces have poured into the streets to enforce crowd control and prevent gatherings, which have not yet taken place.

4. The constant grumbling of clerics about the Supreme Ruler and efforts to replace him with a Ruling Committee have abruptly ceased.

473 drogheda  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:52:39pm

re: #460 SixDegrees

I've been running some numbers based on very rough estimates of the balloon's size. I keep coming up with a lifting capacity of less than 100 pounds. Kid plus gondola plus balloon material...hard to say, but awfully close to the limit, I'd bet. I'm wondering if he was ever in it in the first place.

Didn't seem like a very large gondola on that thing when compared to the adults standing next to it. CNN was saying the father is an avid weather-chaser. Perhaps the balloon wasn't intended to carry people but rather was intended for instrumentation?

474 tradewind  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:52:45pm

re: #456 SanFranciscoZionist
When I drove a lot of carpool, I caught Rush's show frequently and he used to have conservative African American commentator/pundits substitute for him quite frequently. I suppose you'd have to peg them as the self-haters...
///

475 Cato the Elder  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:52:48pm

Best-case scenario at this point - the parents turned their backs. The kid untied the balloon. He ran away scared of what they'd say and is still hiding.

Praying for that to be the case.

476 MinisterO  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:52:51pm

re: #441 simoom

This thread has kept me laughing all day. Thank you for your contribution.


Redstate: Rush was the embodiment of the character content, color-blind dream of Martin Luther King, Jr. that became my dream in my youth.

LMAO. Is this for real? I refuse to visit that site.

477 Yashmak  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:53:05pm

re: #464 Ben Hur

There are black conservatives, you know.

Don't I know it. I've got a co-worker in that category who is more conservative than just about anyone I've ever met. He's all the way into the Obama derangement category.

478 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:53:14pm

re: #286 RogueOne

I love Denver, but if you keep piling pot head after pot head in , this kinda stuff is going to happen.

Small children drifting in hot air balloons? WTF?

479 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:53:21pm

re: #459 RogueOne

It was a joke. Didn't realize I'd hit such a nerve, goodness.

This was a joke...

"Outside of california, I have never seen so many damn dirty hippies in one place in my life. I spent 6 months there last year trying to get a damn job finished and had a hell of a time finding people who actually wanted to work. If not for immigrants I'd still be there trying to finish.

Plus, the kids name is Falcon. Hippie parents who don't know how to tie a damn knot."

Really funny, sort of like all that racist parody that Rush engages in every day?

There's a kid that may be in a life and death situation and all you can do is make dumb-assed statements like above.

Clueless.

480 KingKenrod  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:53:28pm

re: #473 drogheda

Didn't seem like a very large gondola on that thing when compared to the adults standing next to it. CNN was saying the father is an avid weather-chaser. Perhaps the balloon wasn't intended to carry people but rather was intended for instrumentation?

Yes, that was reported earlier. This thing was not intended for persons.

481 SixDegrees  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:53:31pm

re: #466 Yashmak

Wouldn't be too surprising if the kid accidentally launched the thing without actually being in it, was terrified of the consequences, and hid nearby.

I'm leaning toward this explanation, given the few facts currently available.

I have other, less charitable interpretations that I'll withhold for the moment.

482 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:53:43pm

re: #468 Ben Hur

Comparing apples and oranges.

Serena's wasn't racism. It was roid rage.

She was also fined, and publicly apologized.

483 tradewind  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:53:45pm

re: #433 former_secret_agent

Yay! Not turning on set until I know for sure...
Best possible outcome.

484 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:53:52pm

re: #462 iceweasel

The whining is beyond pathetic now. Bunch of sad little pansies.

OMG! A group of business partners decided they did not want Rush as a business partner. Boo friggin' hoo, it's the end of the world. It's the end of Freedom!!1! Eleventy!

485 CommonCents  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:54:07pm

re: #464 Ben Hur

There are black conservatives, you know.


You speak heresy!
/

486 Ben Hur  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:54:30pm

re: #482 Sharmuta

She was also fined, and publicly apologized.

Was yoke.

487 Ben Hur  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:54:36pm

bbl

488 Yashmak  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:54:43pm

re: #476 MinisterO

Yeah, it's actually posted there. I saw it when I misguidedly (and unsuccessfully I must add) tried register and post some responses to comments.

489 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:54:46pm

re: #294 Ojoe

The balloon will slowly lose altitude & where it comes down will determine a lot, as will the wind speed at the ground. power lines will be a major hazard.

Can they get a helicopter up there, throw some kind of a line, and tow it to a safe spot to come down?

490 Bagua  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:55:06pm

re: #479 Walter L. Newton

[...]

Clueless.

Not clueless, intentionally cruel.

491 Bagua  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:55:21pm

re: #489 SanFranciscoZionist

Can they get a helicopter up there, throw some kind of a line, and tow it to a safe spot to come down?

It has landed, it is empty.

492 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:55:34pm

re: #304 Cato the Elder

Well, there goes my new Geert Wilders hair joke.

He does that on purpose.

493 CommonCents  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:55:53pm

re: #482 Sharmuta

She was also fined, and publicly apologized.

Fined by the NFL? I believe the point was that the NFL didn't have a statement on her comment.

494 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:56:01pm

re: #483 tradewind

Yay! Not turning on set until I know for sure...
Best possible outcome.

I'm not hearing that yet, and I am listening to KOA live, largest news station in West, they have teams all over the area right now, no knowledge of kids location right now.

495 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:56:09pm

re: #491 Bagua

It has landed, it is empty.

Well, goddamn it to hell.

496 John Neverbend  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:56:12pm

re: #475 Cato the Elder

Best-case scenario at this point - the parents turned their backs. The kid untied the balloon. He ran away scared of what they'd say and is still hiding.

Praying for that to be the case.

I really hope so. However, it sounds as though the authorities are going to map out the flight path and begin a search. The poor little boy would have had only a few seconds after "launch" to jump out safely, if that's what happened.

497 bratwurst  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:56:29pm

re: #157 The Sanity Inspector

Because obesity provokes negative reactions in people. That's why, when the TV networks report on Rush Limbaugh, they run stock footage of him at his mid-Nineties flabbiest.

Except the fact that there is plenty of footage from this year (ie the CPAC speech) to see him in his flabby glory

498 Kragar  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:56:38pm

re: #489 SanFranciscoZionist

Can they get a helicopter up there, throw some kind of a line, and tow it to a safe spot to come down?

Its down already

499 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:56:42pm

Well, I gotta go.

Later all.

500 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:57:08pm

The kid is probably out riding his bike somewhere.

I blame the Obama cabal. Clearly this was an engineered distraction from the Limbaugh Affair.

/

501 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:57:26pm

Reactions from NRO:

K-Lo aka Kathryn Jean Lopez: Outrage!

Rush Limbaugh is not an acceptable sports investor because of his politics. How else to interpret the state of a sports world where Keith Olbermann can be on Sunday Night Football and Rush Limbaugh's hard-earned money can't be spent as a partial owner of a team in a sport he loves?

Memo to K-Lo: Olbermann? Sportscaster. Get a clue.

Andy McCarthy grants us his wisdom:

That's how Rush treats people — in the Martin Luther King aspiration that the content of one's character is what matters, not the color of one's skin. Yet, in the media narrative, he's somehow the one who's got a race issue.

The LOLercoaster is never-ending.

502 Yashmak  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:57:44pm

If they don't know for certain he was in the balloon in the first place, I'd check under his bed, or in his favorite hiding places first.

503 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:57:48pm

re: #496 John Neverbend

I really hope so. However, it sounds as though the authorities are going to map out the flight path and begin a search. The poor little boy would have had only a few seconds after "launch" to jump out safely, if that's what happened.

The father is a storm chaser and weather scientist and the whole family are very much into weather science.

504 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:58:15pm

re: #340 RogueOne

Outside of california, I have never seen so many damn dirty hippies in one place in my life. I spent 6 months there last year trying to get a damn job finished and had a hell of a time finding people who actually wanted to work. If not for immigrants I'd still be there trying to finish.

Plus, the kids name is Falcon. Hippie parents who don't know how to tie a damn knot.

BTW, I liked it so much I'm headed out for holloween.

I beg your goddamn pardon? You've decided this is a good time to trash this child's parents because you don't like his NAME?

505 theheat  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:58:47pm

re: #209 Slumbering Behemoth

What, he thinks if he dresses classy (sets standards) that makes him classy? That's straight out of some early 80's motivational sales/positive thinking manifesto. (I know, because I endured many of those back in the day.) Why can't he just 'fess up, and say he's too lazy and arrogant to sweat, and could never - never in a million years - look like this in a pair of Levis, or even John Wayne, for that matter. Let's cut the bullshit, and get real.

I call it the doughboy defense.

506 John Neverbend  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:58:49pm

re: #503 Walter L. Newton

The father is a storm chaser and weather scientist and the whole family are very much into weather science.

Right. There's a whole page on Huffpo.

507 Guanxi88  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:59:19pm

re: #501 iceweasel

Reactions from NRO:

K-Lo aka Kathryn Jean Lopez: Outrage!

The LOLercoaster is never-ending.

I prefer the term LOLicopter.

508 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:59:47pm

I think the name "Falcon" is kick-ass. If the kid grows up looking even halfway decent, he is gonna get so much play from the girls in school.

509 tradewind  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 12:59:52pm

re: #484 Slumbering Behemoth

The thing is, it makes absolutely no difference to the state of the world, nation, anyone's state, county, city, or personal health.
It does make a dandy net to cast for flouncy fish, if you're into that.
In other news, Presiden Obama today tossed the VA democratic candidate for governor under his fast-moving bus...

510 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:00:31pm

re: #506 John Neverbend

Right. There's a whole page on Huffpo.

I'm listening to KOA in Denver (I live in the area). KOA is the largest news station in the west. They have teams on the ground already and have been reporting off and on for over an hour.

511 simoom  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:00:45pm

I somewhat buy into the theory that Rush knew there was a ~99% chance this would all play out this way, and that's why he did it – as a cynical career move. Now that he's successfully martyred himself on the battlefield of racial politics he can use this to garner pity from ditto-heads and stoke white resentment for years to come.

512 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:00:45pm

re: #503 Walter L. Newton

Cool!
That makes the asshole #479 you jumped before that much MORE of an asshole!

513 prairiefire  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:01:46pm

re: #507 Guanxi88

LOLicopter really rolls off the tongue!

514 prairiefire  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:02:56pm

re: #508 Slumbering Behemoth

What we call a "hot guy name." There is a list somewhere...

515 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:03:04pm

re: #512 reloadingisnotahobby

Cool!
That makes the asshole #479 you jumped before that much MORE of an asshole!

This just in from RogueOne... update on an earlier comment...

"They must be weather scientists hippie parents who don't know how to tie a damn knot..."
//

Jerk

516 tradewind  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:03:43pm

re: #510 Walter L. Newton

KOA is so huge that we get it at night East of the MS.

517 SixDegrees  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:03:45pm

So far, the only witness to the kid being in the balloon is "a sibling," age unspecified.

518 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:04:01pm

re: #245 cliffster

That's crazy stuff. Trying to picture a happy ending. Is it still going on? Damn this being at the office thing.

At least he's over the plains, not the mountains.

519 Danny  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:04:01pm

Wolf Blitzer keeps calling it a "hot air balloon" for some reason.

520 CommonCents  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:04:08pm

re: #501 iceweasel

Olbermann is now in political commentary. It makes my stomach turn to listen to him on Sunday Night Football. However, he did have a good one a couple weeks ago for "the battle of the bigger Johnson" comment.

521 Gearhead  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:04:45pm

Psst. It's OK to be a Republican and not a Rush fan. Pass it on.

522 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:04:49pm

re: #446 ArchangelMichael

I keep seeing them mentioned. I'm also wondering WTF do they have to do with the price of Tea in China?

The logic goes like this: Some influential left-leaning black people have said bad things and supported bad causes at some point. Hence, anyone calling a right-leaning white pundit a racist is a hypocrite. I think.

523 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:05:00pm

re: #517 SixDegrees

Sound like something MY brother would have done!
Climb in and check it out...It's OK!

524 MinisterO  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:05:17pm

re: #501 iceweasel

re: #507 Guanxi88

LOLercoaster, LOLicopter, LOLapalooza, whatever. Keep 'em coming.

The nut-jobs are vastly exceeding my already cynical expectations.

525 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:05:31pm

re: #509 tradewind

The whole thing is a non-issue, but Rush is going to play the victim card for all it's worth, and his worshipers will have no clue they are following a crybaby. Pathetic lot.

526 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:05:42pm

re: #516 tradewind

KOA is so huge that we get it at night East of the MS.

%0 thousand watt, Clear Channel (evil conservatives) who own 4 AM talk stations in Denver, 3 conservative and 1 is a FAR LEFT liberal station. Capitalism in action. KOA can reach 38 states at nighttime. I use to listen to it over 20 years ago at night in Dallas.

527 tradewind  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:05:49pm

re: #519 Danny
Wolf Blitzer IS a hot air balloon.

528 BARACK THE VOTE  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:05:55pm

re: #520 CommonCents

Olbermann is now in political commentary. It makes my stomach turn to listen to him on Sunday Night Football. However, he did have a good one a couple weeks ago for "the battle of the bigger Johnson" comment.

Well, the point I was making is that he does have an extensive sportscasting background, and K-Lo as usual doesn't know what she's talking about.
Olbermann gets on my nerves too, and I'm a lib.

529 Izzyboy  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:05:59pm

re: #524 MinisterO

Great LOL of China

530 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:06:21pm

Anyone see RogueOne?

531 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:06:26pm

re: #457 tradewind

The two money quotes that got every one so lathered are wiki fabrications. Networks other than Fox have searched and been unable to produce them. The wiki author can easily be shown via search to spend a great deal of time compiling quotes useful for trashing Republicans and conservatives... it's a substitute for real work, I guess.
Limbaugh has said enough provocative stuff in his twenty years on the air that actual quotes are easily searched and soundbytes are available , those two were not.
Didn't matter. He was NFL toast for his McNabb opinion, years ago.
If the Democrats are pinning their stay-on-top hopes on this strategy, they may want to rethink.

How did the Democrats get involved in this again?

532 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:06:42pm

re: #527 tradewind

Wolf Blitzer IS a hot air balloon.


So ,He would know ...right?
LOL

533 S'latch  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:06:49pm

Redstate's use of the quote from Pastor Martin Niemöller clearly violates that well-known corollary to Godwin's Law of internet debate. Redstate loses by default.

I can't believe this thread is so long and no one has mentioned this internet debate law yet. Am I missing something?

534 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:06:51pm

Now up to seven hate mails.

535 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:06:53pm

re: #514 prairiefire

What we call a "hot guy name." There is a list somewhere...

Please tell me Behemoth is on that list.
ohpleaseohpleaseohplease

536 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:07:08pm

re: #530 Walter L. Newton

Check the sole of your shoe!;-)

537 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:07:33pm

re: #526 Walter L. Newton

%0 thousand watt, Clear Channel (evil conservatives) who own 4 AM talk stations in Denver, 3 conservative and 1 is a FAR LEFT liberal station. Capitalism in action. KOA can reach 38 states at nighttime. I use to listen to it over 20 years ago at night in Dallas.

50, 50, 50 thousand watts... the damn shift key jumped up right into the palm of my hand and forced me to type %

538 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:07:34pm

re: #464 Ben Hur

There are black conservatives, you know.

True. I just assume most of them would like to work for someone with less of an 'edgy' approach to race than Rush Limbaugh's.

539 CommonCents  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:07:55pm

re: #528 iceweasel

Well, the point I was making is that he does have an extensive sportscasting background, and K-Lo as usual doesn't know what she's talking about.
Olbermann gets on my nerves too, and I'm a lib.

That and Olbermann works for NBC. Not the NFL. Or a group looking to purchase an NFL team. The analogy kind of falls apart there.

540 cliffster  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:08:05pm

re: #533 Lawrence Schmerel

Flying 6-year-old kid is a bit OT, that might artificially contribute to the length.

541 Kragar  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:08:15pm

re: #530 Walter L. Newton

Anyone see RogueOne?

He's off sulking.

542 tradewind  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:08:31pm

re: #520 CommonCents
The one reason I would love to see Rupert Murdoch actually buy NBC is to watch Kayo be bumped back to his job as a second-string ESPN reporter... if they'd have him.

543 bratwurst  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:08:32pm

re: #531 SanFranciscoZionist

How did the Democrats get involved in this again?

Because it is impossible to discuss bad behavior on the right without pointing to a perceived equivalent on the left.

544 Danny  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:09:09pm

Weird how much attention this missing-kid-in-a-ballon story is garnering. There's probably 100 other kids lost in malls at this very minute.

545 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:09:24pm

re: #543 bratwurst

Because it is impossible to discuss bad behavior on the right without pointing to a perceived equivalent on the left.

Well, there is an equivalent, but it doesn't excuse the right.

546 Bagua  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:09:41pm

re: #541 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

He's off sulking.

If RogueOne had any decency he would apologise for his cruel remarks.

547 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:10:09pm

re: #539 CommonCents

That and Olbermann works for NBC. Not the NFL. Or a group looking to purchase an NFL team. The analogy kind of falls apart there.

Arguing from analogy is one of the weakest forms of argument, precisely because analogies can fall apart so easily.

548 lurking faith  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:10:49pm

OK, I think the Stupid Caption Contest has been won by FOX News:

"To Fly Balloon, Balloon Pilot Certificate Required"

549 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:11:10pm

re: #544 Danny

Weird how much attention this missing-kid-in-a-ballon story is garnering. There's probably 100 other kids lost in malls at this very minute.

Could it have something to do with the fact that the kid is 6 years, old, may have climbed into a weather balloon and launched it, went up to 8000 feet, then the balloon lands and the kid is missing?

Nah, happens every day.

550 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:11:26pm

Damn it!
Find this child!!
I have work to do!!

551 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:11:56pm

Repost, then I gotta split:

"Dear Lord and Savior, Almighty and Eternal Limbaugh, please hear my prayer, and guide me. Help me to see Your Will clearly, so that I may follow Your Word more closely, and repeat Your Holy Talking Points with Divinely inspired accuracy. And please, Lord Limbaugh, give me Your Strength so that I might smite lefties and libruls in Your Sight.

In Beck's name, Amen."

No point in sugar coating it. The folks that flounced out so stupendously over this thread truly worship Rush as if he were an infallible god. Sad. Sad and stupid.

Later Lizards.

552 Izzyboy  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:12:04pm

re: #535 Slumbering Behemoth

[Link: www.greekchat.com...]

Apparently Matt is popular

553 reine.de.tout  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:12:50pm

re: #535 Slumbering Behemoth

Please tell me Behemoth is on that list.
ohpleaseohpleaseohplease

ya made me laugh.

554 tradewind  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:13:03pm

re: #544 Danny

True, but most of them will be able to walk up to a rent-a-cop and ask to be returned to their parent. This child's options are severely limited, God bless him.

555 Dan Tanna  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:13:03pm

Why would my posting above receive a negative rating?
I didnt use vulgar language...
I didnt insult anyone...
I'm not purposely trying to create fights

I linked to two reputable columnists that posed an alternate view about the Rush controversy.

Mark Steyn has been referenced many times in this blog...

If your going to knock me...knock me for something real...not for choosing to see this controversy from a different, yet equally legit viewpoint; and contributing civilly to this thread.

556 Gus  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:13:58pm

Pathetic. My empathy towards Limbaugh is right at about zero.

557 reine.de.tout  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:14:25pm

re: #530 Walter L. Newton

Anyone see RogueOne?

someone is actually looking for him?
I sort of hope he's gone.

558 tradewind  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:14:48pm

re: #535 Slumbering Behemoth

/Not even Be he butterfly./

559 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:14:51pm

re: #555 Dan Tanna

OK!
unfuckyou!

...Was that bad?

560 SixDegrees  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:15:37pm

OK, I just saw a good picture of the balloon, and I'm about 98% confident that it isn't anywhere near large enough to life a six year old off the ground. In fact, it doesn't look large enough to get a cat off the ground, to be honest.

I'd look for the kid closer to home. A lot closer.

561 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:16:20pm

re: #557 reine.de.tout

someone is actually looking for him?
I sort of hope he's gone.

I don't know what the heck he was trying to do. First he is trashing Denver, then calling people hippies even though he knows nothing about the people he is talking about and then tells us it's a joke. I guess it was a joke that spanned about 10 different comments and not once did it sound funny.

Must be my sense of humor is broken.

562 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:16:33pm

re: #555 Dan Tanna

Why would my posting above receive a negative rating?

Maybe because it's about the 300th time those particular bogus apologies for Limbaugh's race baiting comments have been posted.

The apologists are focusing on two remarks that are questionably sourced, and ignoring the MANY indisputable racist and race-baiting remarks by Limbaugh that are verified and sourced.

It gets really tedious to have to keep reading the apologies over and over and over, while the genuine race-baiting remarks are completely ignored.

563 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:17:11pm

re: #560 SixDegrees

Hope so!
I know it takes at least 45 ballons to lift a cat 4 stories!
Hey,hey hey...It wasn't my cat!!
///

564 Danny  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:17:12pm

re: #549 Walter L. Newton

Could it have something to do with the fact that the kid is 6 years, old, may have climbed into a weather balloon and launched it, went up to 8000 feet, then the balloon lands and the kid is missing?

Nah, happens every day.

Yeah, it's dramatic alright, but wall-to-wall coverage seems a bit much t me. Drama sells, I guess.

565 John Neverbend  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:17:55pm

re: #560 SixDegrees

I'd look for the kid closer to home. A lot closer.

According to Bloomberg, "officials say there is a possibility that Falcon might be hiding in his Fort Collins neighborhood, in fear of recrminations." I hope that's what happened.

566 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:18:18pm

Okay, guys... shhh. Don't tell my parents. I really wasn't in the balloon. I'm hiding in Walter's Bear Reserve.

567 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:18:48pm

re: #560 SixDegrees

OK, I just saw a good picture of the balloon, and I'm about 98% confident that it isn't anywhere near large enough to life a six year old off the ground. In fact, it doesn't look large enough to get a cat off the ground, to be honest.

I'd look for the kid closer to home. A lot closer.

Let's hope so, but earlier on, when this first started to unfold, they had helicopters buzzing the balloon and even then they couldn't see any kid aboard.

They were speculating over an hour ago that he may have fell out early on, before they got to the balloon to check it out. And the parents were not aware that the balloon had taken flight at first, so they were not watching the balloon ascend when it fist took off.

He could have fallen out then.

568 freetoken  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:18:50pm

re: #566 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Walter keeps bears?

569 keithgabryelski  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:19:50pm

re: #555 Dan Tanna

Why would my posting above receive a negative rating?

1) you didn't read posts in the thread before posting (or you would have seen one from Charles referencing snopes.com that counters the "all the quotes are lies" position).
2) you posted links to pages with-out any context (here is all the information you need, just read the Internets!)
3) you are dismissing Rush's race baiting.
4) you bring up a non-sequitor (that Al Sharpton is a race baiting idiot)

570 reine.de.tout  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:20:07pm

re: #561 Walter L. Newton

I saw the comments. My sense of humor ws broken, too.

571 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:20:14pm

re: #566 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Okay, guys... shhh. Don't tell my parents. I really wasn't in the balloon. I'm hiding in Walter's Bear Reserve.

Actually considering they have been reporting that he may have fell out early on the ascent, that's not funny. Considering we know nothing about the health of the child, that's not funny. IMO.

572 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:20:17pm

re: #561 Walter L. Newton

I'm sure your sense of humour is just fine!
But,if you'd like I'll do a fly by and give it a visual!
What?... You think I'm going walk to that elevation!

573 SixDegrees  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:20:24pm

re: #565 John Neverbend

According to Bloomberg, "officials say there is a possibility that Falcon might be hiding in his Fort Collins neighborhood, in fear of recrminations." I hope that's what happened.

I'd say that's a near-certainty. I just don't see a balloon that size getting a kid off the ground.

It's vaguely possible that it could lift one of those small purse-dogs. Maybe that's what happened to Jessica Simpson's pet, and she made up the coyote story because she thought a UFO explanation would make her sound stupid.

Oh, wait...

574 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:21:08pm

re: #568 freetoken
No!
He just keeps them fed!

575 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:21:11pm

re: #571 Walter L. Newton

Oh. You're right. Sorry.

576 SixDegrees  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:22:36pm

re: #567 Walter L. Newton

Let's hope so, but earlier on, when this first started to unfold, they had helicopters buzzing the balloon and even then they couldn't see any kid aboard.

They were speculating over an hour ago that he may have fell out early on, before they got to the balloon to check it out. And the parents were not aware that the balloon had taken flight at first, so they were not watching the balloon ascend when it fist took off.

He could have fallen out then.

From the pictures I'm seeing, it wouldn't have been big enough to get him off the ground in the first place.

I hope I'm correct.

577 John Neverbend  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:22:38pm

re: #573 SixDegrees

I'd say that's a near-certainty. I just don't see a balloon that size getting a kid off the ground.

I can't say, as I don't have enough information to do a meaningful calculation. I did hear that part of the balloon was missing (I think it was a basket or gondola), and it doesn't seem to have been present on any of the videos. Something appears to have fallen off the balloon, but it may just have been an empty container. If this really happened, early on in the flight, it should be a little easier to find than having to search the entire flightpath.

578 Dan Tanna  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:22:43pm

re: #562 Charles

Respectfully, I was unaware that those postings were used, as I am not trying to purposely stir the pot.

I can understand your frustration with other sites and the childish vulgar comments directed at you...yet...reloadingisnotahobby is allowed to hurl vulgarities at me.

Its sad that everyone on all sides cant express themselves without stooping to vulgarities...

579 fighton  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:22:54pm

sorry we can all live up to your high standards

580 lurking faith  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:22:57pm

re: #530 Walter L. Newton

Anyone see RogueOne?

Apparently still lurking (It's in the Show Users list).

581 tradewind  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:23:26pm

When my youngest was three, we lost him at the beach with my whole extended family, at a large resort in GA. The absolutely worst , most sinking feeling in the world is watching the Sheriff's truck race up and down the long stretch of sand, scanning the ocean for a tiny child, and then having him get dogs and dune buggies... and you can't find him... it is just ice water in your heart.
He had fallen asleep underneath a video game machine in the teenagers' club room.
Please let that be what has happened here.

582 SixDegrees  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:24:02pm

re: #577 John Neverbend

I can't say, as I don't have enough information to do a meaningful calculation. I did hear that part of the balloon was missing (I think it was a basket or gondola), and it doesn't seem to have been present on any of the videos. Something appears to have fallen off the balloon, but it may just have been an empty container. If this really happened, early on in the flight, it should be a little easier to find than having to search the entire flightpath.

CNN has some good pictures of the balloon on the ground, next to adults for size comparison. It's awfully small.

583 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:24:23pm

re: #579 fighton

sorry we can all live up to your high standards

And who were you addressing that to? Or was that a chicken shit hit and run?

584 John Neverbend  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:24:23pm

re: #581 tradewind

The absolutely worst , most sinking feeling in the world is watching the Sheriff's truck race up and down the long stretch of sand, scanning the ocean for a tiny child, and then having him get dogs and dune buggies... and you can't find him... it is just ice water in your heart.

It's an indescribably horrible feeling. I've had it as well.

585 jaunte  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:24:35pm

re: #579 fighton

sorry we can all live up to your high standards

Que?

586 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:25:02pm

re: #579 fighton

sorry we can all live up to your high standards

It's a sad commentary when someone considers common decency to be "high standards".

587 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:25:17pm

re: #538 SanFranciscoZionist

True. I just assume most of them would like to work for someone with less of an 'edgy' approach to race than Rush Limbaugh's.

The indefatigable Shay Riley maintains a blog aggregator of moderate to conservative black commentary at Booker Rising.

588 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:25:58pm

When I was five. Disappeared for five hours. Police, firemen, volunteers all over the neighborhood.

I was sound asleep in the floor in my Grandfather's room beside the space heater. Walked into the living room and said, "What's goin' on?"

I got spanked for taking a flippin' nap.

589 SixDegrees  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:26:37pm

re: #581 tradewind

When my youngest was three, we lost him at the beach with my whole extended family, at a large resort in GA. The absolutely worst , most sinking feeling in the world is watching the Sheriff's truck race up and down the long stretch of sand, scanning the ocean for a tiny child, and then having him get dogs and dune buggies... and you can't find him... it is just ice water in your heart.
He had fallen asleep underneath a video game machine in the teenagers' club room.
Please let that be what has happened here.

My hopes are rising that he undid the rope holding it, and headed under the neighbor's porch when it took off.

But I know the feeling you're describing, after losing sight of a child at a large fair. It only lasted minutes. Maybe only seconds; however long it was seemed like hours, and it's a feeling of pure terror I never want to experience again.

590 Randall Gross  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:27:10pm

From the hot airheads:

Funny how that works when Letterman isn’t too controversial to be an Indy car owner, and Jay-Z isn’t too controversial to be an NBA owner, and Fergie isn’t too controversial to be be an NFL owner. Why not just insist that Rush and those of his ilk display a yellow Star of David on their lapel, so we can readily tell who the controversial ones are, and mete out the new elitist justice upon them.

[Link: hotair.com...]

591 tradewind  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:27:26pm

re: #588 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I was sound asleep in the floor in my Grandfather's room beside the space heater.

Could have been another horror story right there...

592 lurking faith  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:28:03pm

Good G_d, there they go again.

"Must be at least 16 to obtain a private pilot certificate"

WTF is FOX News thinking?

593 jdog29  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:28:06pm

re: #588 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

When I was five. Disappeared for five hours. Police, firemen, volunteers all over the neighborhood.

I was sound asleep in the floor in my Grandfather's room beside the space heater. Walked into the living room and said, "What's goin' on?"

I got spanked for taking a flippin' nap.

Have you recovered yet? ///

594 Kragar  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:29:10pm

re: #588 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

When I was five. Disappeared for five hours. Police, firemen, volunteers all over the neighborhood.

I was sound asleep in the floor in my Grandfather's room beside the space heater. Walked into the living room and said, "What's goin' on?"

I got spanked for taking a flippin' nap.

That'll teach you.

595 jaunte  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:29:13pm

re: #590 Thanos

"First the investors rejected the controversial racist loudmouths, and I said nothing..."

596 tradewind  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:29:19pm

re: #592 lurking faith

Why do I get the feeling that there's context here you're not providing, Ms Dunn?
:)

597 J.S.  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:29:20pm

re: #589 SixDegrees

A number of CNN experts on such balloons have stated that (judging from the balloon's erratic flight path), in all probability, no one (not even a child) was on board.

598 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:29:37pm

re: #590 Thanos

From the hot airheads:

[Link: hotair.com...]

Lovely. The right wing seems to have lost all inhibitions about comparing themselves to Jews during the Holocaust, for any tiny little incident at all.

599 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:29:44pm

re: #593 jdog29

Have you recovered yet? ///

I eat to drown out the pain?
Yeah. That's the ticket.

600 SixDegrees  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:30:54pm

BBIAB.

601 bill in tx  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:31:20pm

I would imagine that Limbaugh's business partners were OK with him before someone began expressing "shock" that he could actually be part owner of a football team, so it just looks like he is being drubbed out of a business deal because of his politics. But hell, we've got Jerry Jones down here, so maybe Rush doesn't seem so bad ;).

602 tradewind  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:32:00pm

re: #595 jaunte

It might be interesting to see a story that delved into the backgrounds and viewpoints and notable quotes of all the old boys who make up the NFL owners' groups. Possibly shake out a controversy or two, ya think?

603 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:32:11pm

By using that famous quote, the blog owner perverts the context in which it was originally used. Rushbo is incredibly successful in his own right and now he's the new victim of the day. Which world are these conservatives living in?

Ok. It's official. Redstate has no credibility now.

604 lurking faith  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:32:34pm

re: #596 tradewind

I'm quoting the "Alert" captions from Fox News. Mostly they are pretty normal: "Hunt on for 6-yr-old boy not found on balloon" and so forth. But every now and again they toss in one about pilot regulations. As if that were relevant at the moment.

605 jdog29  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:32:38pm

re: #599 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I eat to drown out the pain?
Yeah. That's the ticket.

Everybody has to pay for their raisin' and everybody has to overcome their raisin'

606 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:33:34pm

re: #601 bill in tx

I would imagine that Limbaugh's business partners were OK with him before someone began expressing "shock" that he could actually be part owner of a football team, so it just looks like he is being drubbed out of a business deal because of his politics. But hell, we've got Jerry Jones down here, so maybe Rush doesn't seem so bad ;).

So, Jerry Jones, in your eyes, is worst than a racist, like Rush?

607 jaunte  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:33:55pm

re: #602 tradewind

It might be interesting to see a story that delved into the backgrounds and viewpoints and notable quotes of all the old boys who make up the NFL owners' groups. Possibly shake out a controversy or two, ya think?

It's quite likely.

608 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:33:58pm

To all the Lizards I have the utmost respect for...I appologize for my earlier vugarity!
I feel somewhat better!
Did Ojoe remember the beer?

609 bill in tx  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:34:10pm

Rush is a racist?

610 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:34:25pm

re: #148 Thanos

That was a mistake. Racism doesn't know political bounds.

E.G. We could start with most of the members of ISM, go to Wright, Jackson, or look at that Icon of the left, Ghandi. I believe Hillary has made some questionable comments as well.

Ghandi is on par with Glenn beck? WTF have you been smoking?

611 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:35:00pm

re: #602 tradewind

It might be interesting to see a story that delved into the backgrounds and viewpoints and notable quotes of all the old boys who make up the NFL owners' groups. Possibly shake out a controversy or two, ya think?

Sure, possibly. They may be big hypocrites. But there is no rule that says you have to be pure as the driven snow to avoid being linked to a controversial figure.

612 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:35:01pm

re: #609 bill in tx

Rush is a racist?

Have you even been reading this thread, or did you just drop in to take a shit? Either way, your ass is showing.

613 tradewind  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:35:02pm

re: #603 eclectic infidel

The kind of world where a campaign can be launched to say ' We think you're too mean to own a football team because you've said some things that are patently offensive'... and oh...just don't mess with our rosters full of convicted felons or animal abusers...

614 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:35:31pm

re: #604 lurking faith

As if there's a FAA reg about 6 year olds attempting to fly?

615 tradewind  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:35:42pm

re: #604 lurking faith

There must have been a question raised at some point. Don't know, don't have it on.

616 Gus  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:35:54pm

re: #590 Thanos

From the hot airheads:

[Link: hotair.com...]

They've gone nuts, jumped the shark, drank the Koolaid, etc. The whole thing about bringing up Jay-Z is ridiculous. For what his lyrics? Lyrics?! I can't help but laugh. In that case the dittoheads can always claim that Rush only speaks "artistically" and claim that his words are merely for "dramatic effect."

617 sergeant major  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:36:07pm

Good thing my life doesn't revolve around Rush or whether or not he owns an NFL team. I could care fucking less... There are much more important things going on than Rush owning a football team.
Red State and Rush can now get together and talk about how it was the left that stopped his bid to own an NFL team when in fact it was his own doing by running of his sewer.

618 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:36:28pm

re: #613 tradewind

The kind of world where a campaign can be launched to say ' We think you're too mean to own a football team because you've said some things that are patently offensive'... and oh...just don't mess with our rosters full of convicted felons or animal abusers...

It doesn't matter, they can do what they want with their PRIVATE BUSINESS. They can have all the felons or whatever in their organization and STILL do what they want.

Right?

619 tradewind  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:37:32pm

re: #611 SanFranciscoZionist

But there is no rule that says you have to be pure as the driven snow to avoid being linked to a controversial figure.


Okay... I think. I'm not really understanding that.
I'd understand it if you mean ' We got away with it, shut up and leave us alone'.

620 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:38:10pm

re: #613 tradewind

I just don't see Rush as a victim here.

621 jaunte  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:38:20pm

re: #618 Walter L. Newton

But Rush wants to play with the felons too. It's Not Fair!™

622 StillAMarine  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:38:29pm

True, Limbaugh has been and remains an embarrassing pox on the body of conservatism, but I feel that the NFL itself is worthy of criticism given its insistence on using a racial epithet for the name of its Washington team. The R-word in reference to Native Americans is insulting at best.
I have no problem with team names like "Warriors," Chiefs" or "Indians" because those terms are not in the least insulting. But the R-word is over the line.

623 tradewind  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:39:07pm

re: #616 Gus 802

In terms of influence, offensive misogynistic and racist lyrics in rap music absorbed by kids have way more weight than any random comments of any radio talk show host.

624 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:39:18pm

re: #618 Walter L. Newton

I've worked with and hired both felons and racist!
I'll take the recovering felon everytime!

625 bill in tx  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:39:30pm

BTW, I said that with a wink, maybe that wasn't obvious.

Honestly I haven't' been able to read all 613 comments, some seem to characterize Limbaugh as a racist, some not. I really can't say.

Nice language, Walter. Friendly place this has become.

Adios,
b.

626 keithgabryelski  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:40:35pm

re: #613 tradewind

and oh...just don't mess with our rosters full of convicted felons or animal abusers...

are you seriously suggesting the NFL ignored Michael Vick's dog abuse charges?

627 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:41:48pm

re: #613 tradewind

The kind of world where a campaign can be launched to say ' We think you're too mean to own a football team because you've said some things that are patently offensive'... and oh...just don't mess with our rosters full of convicted felons or animal abusers...

His fellow investors didn't want to work with him. Deal with it.

628 lurking faith  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:42:31pm

re: #625 bill in tx

Don't say that sort of thing without a sarc tag, if you don't want to provoke angry reactions. We can't see you wink if you don't type it that way.

629 keithgabryelski  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:42:34pm

re: #623 tradewind

In terms of influence, offensive misogynistic and racist lyrics in rap music absorbed by kids have way more weight than any random comments of any radio talk show host.

so it is about degrees of poor social skills, now?

630 StillAMarine  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:43:39pm

re: #77 Charles

More verified racist quotes, and some debunked: [Link: www.snopes.com...]

The simple fact is that Rush Limbaugh has made numerous statements like this. "Race-baiting" is being generous. That "take the bone out of your nose" comment is pure unvarnished racism.

OK. Charles, you convinced me. Now I am a believer in the fact of Limbaugh's racism. Now I see him as a racist boil as well as a pox on the body of convervatism.

631 bill in tx  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:44:48pm

re: #628 lurking faith


Gotcha. Seriously, I apologize for my clumsiness.

632 RogueOne  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:45:37pm

re: #580 lurking faith


No one is sulking. I left work and came home.

Walter, I apologize. It was a bad joke based on the kids name. I learn to keep my snark to more appropriate sites.

/Does no one watch south park?
[Link: www.southparkstuff.com...]

633 tradewind  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:46:33pm

re: #620 eclectic infidel

It is hard to see anyone with that much money and that large of an audience as a victim, you're right. It's the idea behind it that offends some people... just as it is the idea of it that offends those who oppose him being allowed to buy in.
I think what he is so upset about in large part is the gratuitous acceptance by a willing media to spread false quotes without checking thoroughly. Those are in the vernacular now, and he'll never be able to get them erased, even though they were made up.
The publicity, though, he probably is not hating. He might as well make lemonade.

634 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:47:48pm

re: #633 tradewind

And again, the obsessive focus on a couple of quotes that were unverified, while ignoring the MANY race-baiting AND outright racist quotes are verified and sourced.

Tedious.

635 tradewind  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:48:15pm

re: #626 keithgabryelski

No. I'm saying he was banned from the game, quite rightly, and now he's welcomed back. And he's playing with teammates, as are all or most of the NFL teams, who have criminal records, and I don't mean for parking tickets.
It all seems copacetic with the owners' groups. Just a tad of a double standard.

636 tradewind  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:49:08pm

re: #634 Charles

I was careful to explain the first time I discussed it that he had said enough provocative stuff that the two quotes didn't even need to be made up.

637 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:49:51pm

re: #622 StillAMarine

Go read the Wiki on the Redskins and then come back here.

638 Presort  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:50:30pm

How much of an impact will Rush being kicked out have on others who seek to buy into a sports team? Anyone think that cleaning out Rush will result in others being removed or stopped due to their comments?

639 tradewind  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:50:34pm

re: #629 keithgabryelski

No, it's about hypocrisy.
And as Charles has said, it's tedious. Even if he didn't specifically mean the whole subject. Done with it.

640 Gus  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:51:45pm

re: #623 tradewind

In terms of influence, offensive misogynistic and racist lyrics in rap music absorbed by kids have way more weight than any random comments of any radio talk show host.

Technically, lyrics amount to fiction or art. Perhaps some people use it to build a Raison d'être or life philosophy but normal human behavior dictates that we do otherwise. Limbaugh on the other hand disseminates words (which are far from random) that are non-fiction and de facto philosophies for his listeners.

The extent of Jay-Zs political work merely encompasses philanthropic activity. While the same extends to Rush, he is also involved as an unofficial speaker for the GOP (see Steele apologizes to Rush) as well as a speaker to events such as CPAC.

What little young people might be inspired into politics through CPAC and other events see Rush as a role model they may some day grow up to become involved in politics. On the other hand, those inspired by Jay-Z may only seek a career as a musical artist.

641 Randall Gross  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:52:49pm

argggh . Lifson floats a new kookspiracy

"RUSH Wuz set up by a vast Leftwing Alinsky Conspiracy!"

[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

642 tradewind  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:53:19pm

re: #618 Walter L. Newton

Right.
Unless and until an influential reverend or two decides to object.
Then, not so much.

643 Sergeant Major  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:54:05pm

re: #622 StillAMarine
I do not have an opinion as to whether or not they should change the name however, I found this... in 2004, a poll by the Annenberg Public Policy Center at the University of Pennsylvania essentially confirmed the prior poll's findings, concluding that 91% of the American Indians surveyed in the 48 states on the mainland USA found the name acceptable and setting out in detail the exact wording of the questions(Wikipedia)

644 maynard  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:54:19pm

You guys do realize the quotes that have been attributed to Limbaugh are made up, right?

645 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:54:45pm

re: #644 maynard

You guys do realize the quotes that have been attributed to Limbaugh are made up, right?

And AGAIN with this crap.

646 jaunte  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:55:19pm

re: #644 maynard

The one about the Mexican marathon runner, how about that?

647 Gus  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:57:01pm

re: #644 maynard

You guys do realize the quotes that have been attributed to Limbaugh are made up, right?

Yeah, and Lew Rockwell wasn't the ghost writer for Ron Paul.

/

648 Bagua  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:57:26pm

re: #644 maynard

You guys do realize the quotes that have been attributed to Limbaugh are made up, right?

How clever of you to chime in at the end of a thread you haven't read with that fatuous observation.

649 MinisterO  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:57:38pm

re: #635 tradewind

Just a tad of a double standard.

Poppycock. The NFL has the different standards of conduct for business partners than for employees. Most organizations do. That's not a double standard. I would be happy to explain the term to you if you don't get it.

650 jaunte  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:57:53pm

Limbaugh speculating on why a Mexican national won the New York marathon: "An immigration agent chased him for the last 10 miles." (USA Weekend, 1/26/92)

651 bratwurst  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 1:58:38pm

re: #545 Walter L. Newton

Well, there is an equivalent, but it doesn't excuse the right.

I agree...but I re: #644 maynard

Bad stuff, maynard.

652 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 2:04:23pm

re: #633 tradewind

It's been my experience that people who make borderline slurs (or outright slurs) against members of another race harbor prejudice. If Rush was concerned or frustrated about a certain social situation, he could have expressed his discontent w/o resorting to insinuations and outright bigotry. He didn't have to target blacks, but he did what he did.

You reap what you sow. Rush has only himself to blame.

653 erraticsphinx  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 2:07:39pm

re: #650 jaunte

Oh, the humor!

/

654 TedStriker  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 2:14:38pm

re: #340 RogueOne

Outside of california, I have never seen so many damn dirty hippies in one place in my life. I spent 6 months there last year trying to get a damn job finished and had a hell of a time finding people who actually wanted to work. If not for immigrants I'd still be there trying to finish.

Plus, the kids name is Falcon. Hippie parents who don't know how to tie a damn knot.

BTW, I liked it so much I'm headed out for holloween.

Bad form, just plain bad form.

/asshole...

655 hydrocarbon hank  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 2:16:11pm

Wow -- I didn't know there were so many Rush haters on this side of the fence! I've been out of the loop for way to long.

656 hydrocarbon hank  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 2:16:57pm

And by to...I mean too.

657 [deleted]  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 2:17:41pm
658 TedStriker  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 2:26:34pm

re: #441 simoom

RedState: How Limbaugh’s embodiment of MLK’s dream changed my life


//rofl

WTF are they smoking?

659 TedStriker  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 2:29:59pm

re: #655 hydrocarbon hank

Wow -- I didn't know there were so many Rush haters on this side of the fence! I've been out of the loop for way to long.

I don't hate Rush, but he has a record of habitually line-stepping in regards to race issues...like some might say, "Don't start no shit, won't be no shit!"

660 SixDegrees  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 2:35:16pm

re: #635 tradewind

No. I'm saying he was banned from the game, quite rightly, and now he's welcomed back. And he's playing with teammates, as are all or most of the NFL teams, who have criminal records, and I don't mean for parking tickets.
It all seems copacetic with the owners' groups. Just a tad of a double standard.

The way our legal system (and moral system, supposedly) is structured, Vick has paid his dues for his crimes and now has a chance to move beyond them. We'll see how that works out, but so far he isn't abusing animals anymore.

Limbaugh, on the other hand, just keeps piling the shit deeper and higher on a daily basis, without even a glimmer of repentance or remorse.

I'm not seeing the double standard. I'm seeing two entirely different situations that don't compare with one another.

661 SixDegrees  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 2:36:31pm

re: #644 maynard

You guys do realize the quotes that have been attributed to Limbaugh are made up, right?

Start at the top of the thread and read downwards. If you can pry yourself away from Rush's talking points for more than a few seconds at a time, of course.

662 prairiefire  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 2:39:46pm

re: #535 Slumbering Behemoth

Yes! The biblical version!

663 checked08  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 2:45:40pm

[Link: www.newscientist.com...]

Flattery seems to temper the aggressive urges of insecure leaders. When Fast and Chen coaxed the egos of these volunteers by praising their leadership skills, their aggressive tendencies all but disappeared. This is proof that leaders are aggressive because of a hurt ego, not simply a threat to their power, Fast says.


Thought this strangely appropriate.

664 Hydrocarbon Hank  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 2:59:29pm

re: #659 talon_262

I think Rush likes the shit!

665 757sean  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:06:18pm

re: #661 SixDegrees

Limbaugh has absolutely said some stupid things. Still, what's been going on last few days is pretty incredible, and really fits the definition of libel against a public figure. Even if Limbaugh is saying that he doesn't think it's going to cost him any money, there's reports that he's already looking at action. His lawyers will probably convince him that he was, legally speaking, harmed financially.

I also find it incredible that LGF is not seeing the parallels between what's going on here, and what went on with the Killian memos. Limbaugh's detractors _know_ he's a racist. These fake quotes (the most outrageous ones reported) prove what they already _knew_. Fake but accurate!

666 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:08:13pm

re: #665 757sean

I also find it incredible that LGF is not seeing the parallels between what's going on here, and what went on with the Killian memos. Limbaugh's detractors _know_ he's a racist. These fake quotes (the most outrageous ones reported) prove what they already _knew_. Fake but accurate!

That's a ridiculous and silly comparison.

AGAIN, someone shows up to point out that TWO quotes are unverified, as if that excuses away the MANY verified and sourced race-baiting and outright racist comments.

667 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:08:58pm

And AGAIN, we have a sleeper who registered more than three years ago, whose first comment is defending Rush Limbaugh.

668 Merryweather  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:16:30pm

re: #666 Charles

There's a reason Limbaugh calls his cult members 'Dittoheads' - they are completely incapable of thinking for themselves or believing the world around them is anything other than what El Rushbo says it is. Facts and reality have no impact on these people.

669 Henchman Ghazi-808  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:17:02pm

Who amongst us is committing Self Niemollation?

670 webevintage  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:19:06pm

Only in Obama's America can the dreams of a millionaire be dashed to bits by the free market.
What have we done to the American dream?
//


Party on Rush, party on...

671 Rascal One  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:21:23pm

I'm guessing that if Reverend Al Sharpton was part of a group set to buy the New York Jets and outrage over Sharpton's actions against the Duke Lacrosse team caused the NFL to disallow Sharpton's ownership role, there might be a few blogs that would react with:

" Tonight, Reverand Al is us. And we are him. "

672 757sean  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 3:24:28pm

re: #666 Charles

That's a ridiculous and silly comparison.

AGAIN, someone shows up to point out that TWO quotes are unverified, as if that excuses away the MANY verified and sourced race-baiting and outright racist comments.

Explain, exactly, why it was silly. Did I not open my post saying that Limbaugh has said some stupid things? Historical (not faked) records showed that Bush was removed from flight duty because he hadn't taken a physical. But then someone with a political axe to grind shows up, fabricates something, and makes the whole thing worse than it actually was.

re: #667 Charles

And AGAIN, we have a sleeper who registered more than three years ago, whose first comment is defending Rush Limbaugh.

I don't often have much to say here (I post often elsewhere, local newspapers, slashdot, fark, etc.), but i read pretty much every day.

673 Yashmak  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:13:19pm

re: #644 maynard

You guys do realize the quotes that have been attributed to Limbaugh are made up, right?

THE quotes? No, two quotes have been outed as false, while innumerable others are verified as having come straight from his mouth. See the innumerable links verifying these innumerable quotes.

674 Yashmak  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:18:25pm

re: #665 757sean

These fake quotes (the most outrageous ones reported) prove what they already _knew_. Fake but accurate!

Referring to football teams as looking like a rumble between crips and bloods? Telling a black person to take the bone out of their nose? These are things he is verified as having said himself. How are they any less outrageous?

675 Yashmak  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 4:23:04pm

That balloon kid? Found at home in a box. I'm glad I called that one right, and the outcome wasn't something far worse.

676 Hector1980  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:35:06pm

I'm gonna have to politely disagree with that article.

I'm not a racist, drug-addicted, fat, soulless scum of a man.

So no, I'm most definitely not Rush Limbaugh today.

677 Hector1980  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 5:41:19pm

Also, we might have to ask ourselves why, if as a few right wing pundits have said lately, Rush doesn't 'have a racist bone' in his body, so many people easily believed he had said slavery was a good thing?

678 TDG2112  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 6:41:21pm

Has anyone noticed how 20 years ago Rush and company would nonstop attack the "culture of victim-hood," but now non-stop pretend to be victims? His entire show is how he and his fellow conservatives are nothing but helpless victims.

679 Avary  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 6:47:04pm

Wait. Rush Limbaugh is a race baiter? Appart from the fake quotes wrongly attributed to him by CNN, what has he actually done that's racist?

680 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 6:47:29pm

Here we go AGAIN.

681 Avary  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 6:53:16pm

re: #677 Hector1980

Perhaps because it's been repeated enough times in the mainstream media that Rush Limbaugh is a racist?

682 Mich-again  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 8:47:22pm
Tonight Rush became the metaphor for all of us .

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! We're all fat balding multimillionaire ex drug addict blowhards with no chance with the ladies !

683 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 8:50:57pm

re: #678 TDG2112

Has anyone noticed how 20 years ago Rush and company would nonstop attack the "culture of victim-hood," but now non-stop pretend to be victims? His entire show is how he and his fellow conservatives are nothing but helpless victims.

Yes, the cult of victimhood is now a big part of the right wing. And their Fox News hero Glenn Beck is a guy who weeps on camera.

684 Dan Tanna  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 8:58:41pm

Good article from WSJ

Leveling Limbaugh
The NFL punts to left-wing political intimidation.

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

685 [deleted]  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 9:06:23pm
686 Bagua  Thu, Oct 15, 2009 10:33:16pm

re: #679 Avary

You are meant to read the thread before commenting.

687 JEA62  Fri, Oct 16, 2009 5:47:47am

Yes, we know Rush is an Everyman. just like the rest of us.

Except a couple of hundred million dollars richer...

688 keithgabryelski  Fri, Oct 16, 2009 6:02:10am

re: #684 Dan Tanna

Good article from WSJ

Leveling Limbaugh
The NFL punts to left-wing political intimidation.

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

The premise of the article:

1) rush limbaugh was rejected by the NFL
fallacy of non-sequitor (which is a straw man, with #2): Rush Limbaugh was not rejected by the NFL, but by his own business team.

Should this country require these businessmen partner with Rush Limbaugh?

2) the NFL doesn't actually have a problem with limbaugh, but the controversy is being used to assist them in other negotiations
fallacy of bare assertion: this is a conspiracy theory with no evidence.

fallacy of non-sequitor: the article fails to link rush limbaugh's rejection to how it could benefit the NFL's negotiations

fallacy of non-sequitor: the article continues to present the NFL rejected Limbaugh, instead of what really happen: his business partners cut ties with him.

3) The NFL is not a clean organization because Bill Belichick's shenanigans were forgiven

fallacy of non-sequitor: the NFL is not in this fight, this was a simple business deal among private citizens.

4) Rush's conservative political speech is the reason he was rejected.

strawman fallacy: the only issue i've seen presented for rush's rejection was rush's racist and race baiting speech.

bare assertion: we don't know the reasons for the rejection, because this is a private business contract.

Interesting point, though: i wonder if the article's writer wanted to conflate "conservative speech" with "racist speech".

5) Keith Olbermann is the left's Rush Limbaugh and HE is able to be on NFL TV shows

fallacy of false equivalency: Keith Olbermann is a sports caster

note: Rush Limbaugh has attempted to be a sportscaster, but he blew that in 2003 when he made the McNabb comment on ESPN's "Sunday night Countdown".

6) the right will riot if Rush Limbaugh is pushed out of political life.

Let me back away from this article, right now ... slowly. see... i'm unarmed.


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