Rush Limbaugh: Health Care is a Leftist Plot to Kill Off the Elderly

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Rush Limbaugh’s latest bizarre hate-mongering conspiracy theory, one-upping Sarah Palin’s “death panels:” the “left” is using health care reform as cover, to kill off the elderly just like Stalin and Mao did.

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Who are we targeting in health care? Old people. Rationing the care of old people. Shutting down nursing homes. Why focus on the elderly? …

And then it hit me. And don’t doubt me on this. Leftists, Marxists, socialists, wherever they are, are leftists, Marxists, socialists.

What’s the first thing Mao Tse Tung did? What was the cultural revolution? He took out the educated people. He took out people who had a cultural, historical memory of China’s past. He took out, the equivalent would be, he killed, and Stalin did the same, took out the people who remembered how things work.

Of course, he winds up with the standard deniability clause, after directly comparing Obama’s health care plans to Mao’s cultural revolution:

Are you comparing Obama to those peo … uh, no. Not in terms of genocide. But they’re not invited to the summit.

Where would anyone get the idea he’s comparing Obama to Stalin and Mao? It’s a head-scratcher, all right.

I expect the Limbaugh apologists to say he’s just joking; that seems to be the standard excuse for any hateful, deranged thing Limbaugh says. But I always thought humor was supposed to be, you know … funny?

(Hat tip: KT.)

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527 comments
1 Sharmuta  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:31:03pm

Newt Gingrich Nancy Pelosi is going to make Grandma eat dog food!!1!

Has political rhetoric become a broken record?

2 freetoken  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:31:33pm

I suppose I should insert something humorous here... but Limbaugh's continual slide into the gutter to compete with Beck is not funny.

3 armylaw  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:33:04pm

This is exhibit A of why Limbaugh, as a college-dropout, is not qualified to be the leader of anything. He is a very talented communicator, but he has at best a surface understanding of people who disagree with him.

4 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:33:14pm

Every day its another lap in the race to go off the rails.

5 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:33:55pm

Yeah Rush, Obama is exactly like Stalin and Mao. Seriously what an ass to even hint at Obama being like Stalin and Mao. It was bs for people on the left to compare Bush with Hitler. It's equally dishonest and crappy for Rush to do the same thing to Obama with leftist dictators.

6 elizajane  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:35:44pm

There's a really sad logic here.

1. Somebody is out to get the elderly.
2. It must be the leftists and Marxists, because
3. They always kill off the educated people.

In other words, the educated people in this country are only the elderly.
Is this perhaps some ironic comment on the state of education in today's America? Alas, probably not.

How can anybody take this man seriously?

7 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:36:15pm

re: #3 armylaw

This is exhibit A of why Limbaugh, as a college-dropout, is not qualified to be the leader of anything. He is a very talented communicator, but he has at best a surface understanding of people who disagree with him.

Who's said he's a leader of anything?

8 cliffster  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:36:53pm

re: #3 armylaw

This is exhibit A of why Limbaugh, as a college-dropout, is not qualified to be the leader of anything. He is a very talented communicator, but he has at best a surface understanding of people who disagree with him.

What does college-dropout have to do with anything?

9 theheat  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:36:53pm

Is it okay to call them traitors yet?
//

The American Taliban, aka The Way [the Right thinks] Things Ought To Be, by Rush Limabugh.

10 Killgore Trout  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:37:57pm

After watch the Jesse Ventura clip last night I started thinking: Do these people actually believe these conspiracy theories? Palin admitted that the Death Panel claim wasn't true but it was a way to rally the troops. Glenn Beck doesn't really think we're in a fascist country. Rush certainly doesn't really think Obama is going to starting killing people old enough to remember how great America was. I don't even think most of their audiences really believe this stuff.
It seems to serve some psychological purpose and fills some sort of need for them but nobody really believes this stuff. The few who are deranged enough to actually believe it are very dangerous but they are luckily very rare.

11 wrenchwench  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:38:39pm
What’s the first thing Mao Tse Tung did? What was the cultural revolution?

The Cultural Revolution was not exactly the first thing Mao did.

12 Killgore Trout  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:38:43pm

re: #9 theheat

Is it okay to call them traitors yet?
//

The American Taliban, aka The Way [the Right thinks] Things Ought To Be, by Rush Limabugh.

Is it okay to call them traitors yet?
//


I don't think you need a sarc tag.

13 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:39:40pm

re: #7 MandyManners

Who's said he's a leader of anything?

Vast swaths of the right.

14 wrenchwench  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:39:52pm

re: #10 Killgore Trout

It seems to serve some psychological financial purpose and fills some sort of need for them but nobody really believes this stuff.

FTFY

15 cliffster  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:40:30pm

re: #7 MandyManners

Who's said he's a leader of anything?

David Axelrod.

16 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:40:34pm

re: #11 wrenchwench

The Cultural Revolution was not exactly the first thing Mao did.

No, it was preceded by the even worse Great Leap Forward, the greatest famine is history.

17 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:41:01pm

I just love how he and others continue to make Obama out to be this tyrant while they not only are allowed to keep their shows but continue spewing this crap. I've learned about Russian history in particular. You could get jailed for making jokes, yes jokes about Stalin and Soviet leaders. I think it's true that they know that they're speaking a bunch of crap but their viewers and listeners on the other hand seem to interpret as the gospel truth which is in my opinion as if not more disturbing than what they say.

18 Charles Johnson  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:41:12pm

re: #7 MandyManners

Who's said he's a leader of anything?

The Most Influential Conservative

19 Killgore Trout  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:41:22pm

re: #14 wrenchwench

Good point.

20 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:41:22pm

re: #13 Cato the Elder

Vast swaths of the right.

He's a voice among many.

21 Decatur Deb  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:41:24pm

There must be something to it...My neighborhood supervisor just told me to report to Carousel.

22 albusteve  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:41:37pm

Rush is going for the ratings...all those gullible oldsters are money in the bank...AARP bucks

23 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:41:55pm

re: #7 MandyManners

Who's said he's a leader of anything?

The left is jumping up and down screaming that Rush is the defacto leader of the GOP.

/So it must be true, because after all, those paragons of virtue would never lie to us.

24 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:42:00pm

re: #7 MandyManners

Who's said he's a leader of anything?

He did, I thought.

25 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:42:10pm

re: #15 cliffster

David Axelrod.

I can't help but think of Guns 'n Roses whenever I hear/see his name.

26 Irish Rose  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:42:37pm

Good freaking grief.

27 MandyManners  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:42:38pm

re: #18 Charles

The Most Influential Conservative

I was thinking in terms of elections, of being responsible for others.

28 cliffster  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:42:58pm

re: #25 MandyManners

I can't help but think of Guns 'n Roses whenever I hear/see his name.

Dammit, don't put positive imagery in my head for that guy.

29 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:43:17pm

re: #21 Decatur Deb

There must be something to it...My neighborhood supervisor just told me to report to Carousel.

Renew, renew, renew!

30 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:43:38pm

re: #11 wrenchwench

The Cultural Revolution was not exactly the first thing Mao did.

Rush isn't big on historical analysis. He just skims, looking for scary parts.

31 soxfan4life  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:43:39pm

re: #25 MandyManners

I can't help but think of Guns 'n Roses whenever I hear/see his name.

The thoughts that go through my head when I see or hear his name are not fit to print.

32 Gus  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:44:34pm

re: #15 cliffster

David Axelrod.

Michael Steele

33 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:44:46pm

re: #20 MandyManners

He's a voice among many.

One of the top ones, and constantly hailed as "the unofficial spokeman of the right in America" and "the conscience of the social conservative movement", et cetera, et cetera, ad nauseam.

34 Joanne  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:45:51pm

re: #10 Killgore Trout

After watch the Jesse Ventura clip last night I started thinking: Do these people actually believe these conspiracy theories? Palin admitted that the Death Panel claim wasn't true but it was a way to rally the troops. Glenn Beck doesn't really think we're in a fascist country. Rush certainly doesn't really think Obama is going to starting killing people old enough to remember how great America was. I don't even think most of their audiences really believe this stuff.
It seems to serve some psychological purpose and fills some sort of need for them but nobody really believes this stuff. The few who are deranged enough to actually believe it are very dangerous but they are luckily very rare.

Whether they believe their own drivel or not, too many of their devout followers do believe it. That's what makes the stuff they spew dangreous.

Do you think the tea party folks believe what they're saying? How many Gkenn Beck signs do you see at their rallies or the 9/12 rallies? How many people think HCR really is an evil plot to kill grandma? People believe this crap, which, to me, is deeply depressing (when looking at the American populace).

35 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:46:03pm

re: #8 cliffster

What does college-dropout have to do with anything?

Would you hire one?

36 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:46:25pm

re: #15 cliffster

David Axelrod.

Inscribed on a tombstone:

Here lies Martin Elginbrod,
Have mercy on my soul, Lord God
As I would do, were I Lord God,
And thou were Martin Elginbrod.

The random stuff in my mind is sometimes truly disturbing.

37 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:46:26pm

re: #25 MandyManners

I can't help but think of Guns 'n Roses whenever I hear/see his name.

Which song? Just curious.

38 cliffster  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:46:37pm

re: #35 Cato the Elder

Would you hire one?

Do you have anywhere close to the amount of money he has?

39 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:46:52pm

re: #16 Dark_Falcon

No, it was preceded by the even worse Great Leap Forward, the greatest famine is history.

There's chocolate cake in my fridge. I don't think we're going that road.

40 soxfan4life  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:46:56pm

re: #35 Cato the Elder

Would you hire one?

Depends on the job

41 albusteve  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:47:05pm

re: #33 Cato the Elder

One of the top ones, and constantly hailed as "the unofficial spokeman of the right in America" and "the conscience of the social conservative movement", et cetera, et cetera, ad nauseam.

Rbots...pay me and I'll say whatever you want to hear...he should run for office (and give up an $ empire?)...proxy

42 Velvet Elvis  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:47:24pm

The most annoying part is that the HCR bill is not even that far left a bill. It's basicly public subsidies for private insurance suppliers, no "government run insurance" like everyone has been wailing about.

I argued from the beginning that they should have gone for single payer or socialized medicine because that's how it was going to be depicted by the right anyway.

Now health care co-ops are socialized medicine. It's insane.

43 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:47:33pm

re: #28 cliffster

Dammit, don't put positive imagery in my head for that guy.

GnR positive?

A friend once told me that one of the most vile things he ever smelled was when Axel Rose walked by upwind of him when he was in Hawaii.

44 cliffster  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:47:55pm

re: #36 SanFranciscoZionist

Inscribed on a tombstone:

Here lies Martin Elginbrod,
Have mercy on my soul, Lord God
As I would do, were I Lord God,
And thou were Martin Elginbrod.

The random stuff in my mind is sometimes truly disturbing.

Awesome.

45 freetoken  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:48:01pm

re: #10 Killgore Trout

Those people are using well known approaches, tools if you will, to influence peoples' thinking and actions.

In the contest over controlling other peoples' actions truth, or more appropriately, accuracy of statements is not the most important.

Human decision making can never be done on a single bit of knowledge. Other thoughts, and past thoughts, directly influence the choices made on the issue at hand.

Again, that is why I linked to the Perimeter Institute public lecture that was about probability and human thinking. The example used is the old How Many Nations In Africa? question. The answer to that question can easily be shown to be affected by another question that is asked immediately prior.

So when Limbaugh says Obama wants to kill old people like Stalin we don't have to ask really if Limbaugh believes it is true or not. Limbaugh knows that by just raising and harping on the issue he will get listeners to begin thinking in certain directions, such as whether Obama really cares about old people, or associating the 3 syllable word "Obama" with the two syllable world "Stalin", for example.

Then there is the need to hate, or as I've mentioned before, the addiction to the adrenalin rush that anger brings.

Rush Limbaugh is a despicable person. He says despicable things all the time. That he is so popular, even the most influential "conservative" of our time, says that America is a land of some very hateful, easily manipulated people.

Fortunately not all Americans are like that, maybe not even the majority (I hope.) Nevertheless, the screeching minority that is the Limbaugh-nation is not few in number.

46 Idle Drifter  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:48:52pm

Javier Bardem stars as Anton Chigurh going to go into the old folks home and start offing people whose medicare ran out with a captive bolt pistol in a new movie called No Country for Old People.

Do I need a sacr tag?

47 Joanne  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:49:07pm

re: #27 MandyManners

I was thinking in terms of elections, of being responsible for others.

I don't know, didn't he deliver the keynote at CPAC? I'd think that is influencial.

48 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:49:15pm

re: #34 JustJay

Whether they believe their own drivel or not, too many of their devout followers do believe it. That's what makes the stuff they spew dangreous.

Do you think the tea party folks believe what they're saying? How many Gkenn Beck signs do you see at their rallies or the 9/12 rallies? How many people think HCR really is an evil plot to kill grandma? People believe this crap, which, to me, is deeply depressing (when looking at the American populace).

How many believe the WWE is really wrestling?
It's worse than you thought.

49 nines09  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:49:23pm

Once upon a time I guess he had something to say. I never quite got past the arrogant rub my face in his money attitude, and the Oxy bit was moneyed leverage at it's best. I thought Beck was funny about 8 years ago before he became a "somebody". Give a man enough rope and he will hang somebody. Even himself. WTFH to the middle? We have demigods and devils. The gray area in the middle has been blown up. Trench warfare.
I'm off to sleep.

50 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:49:50pm

re: #46 Idle Drifter

Javier Bardem stars as Anton Chigurh going to go into the old folks home and start offing people whose medicare ran out with a captive bolt pistol in a new movie called No Country for Old People.

Do I need a sacr tag?

What's the most you ever lost watching an episode of Matlock, friendo?

51 SilentAlfa  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:49:59pm

re: #38 cliffster

Do you have anywhere close to the amount of money he has?

Believe it or not, it's possible to be both wealthy and an idiot at the same time.

52 soxfan4life  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:50:41pm

re: #51 SilentAlfa

Believe it or not, it's possible to be both wealthy and an idiot at the same time.

200+ members of Congress can verify that.

53 Racer X  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:50:44pm

How messed up is America?

- A gynecologist is giving the country financial advice.
- A community organizer is now in charge of the largest military on the planet.

54 cliffster  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:50:46pm

re: #51 SilentAlfa

Believe it or not, it's possible to be both wealthy and an idiot at the same time.

If you think Rush is an idiot, then you're not thinking.

55 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:50:49pm

The thing that personally amuses me about Rush and others like him is how they rant and rail against the elites while they are the elite.

56 brookly red  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:50:50pm

re: #51 SilentAlfa

Believe it or not, it's possible to be both wealthy and an idiot at the same time.

but not for long...

57 Killgore Trout  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:51:00pm

re: #34 JustJay

I think they believe it on some level but not really. Seriously think about it, if there were troops rounding up old people in your neighborhood and loading them into cattle trucks you'd do something about it. If you really thought Obama was going to kill your parents you'd flee the country. Nobody really believes this stuff. I watched the Koskidz talk similar shit over the past 8 years. Maybe it's kind of a communal bonding experience or something but very very few people seriously believe this stuff.

58 albusteve  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:51:29pm

re: #45 freetoken

Those people are using well known approaches, tools if you will, to influence peoples' thinking and actions.

In the contest over controlling other peoples' actions truth, or more appropriately, accuracy of statements is not the most important.

Human decision making can never be done on a single bit of knowledge. Other thoughts, and past thoughts, directly influence the choices made on the issue at hand.

Again, that is why I linked to the Perimeter Institute public lecture that was about probability and human thinking. The example used is the old How Many Nations In Africa? question. The answer to that question can easily be shown to be affected by another question that is asked immediately prior.

So when Limbaugh says Obama wants to kill old people like Stalin we don't have to ask really if Limbaugh believes it is true or not. Limbaugh knows that by just raising and harping on the issue he will get listeners to begin thinking in certain directions, such as whether Obama really cares about old people, or associating the 3 syllable word "Obama" with the two syllable world "Stalin", for example.

Then there is the need to hate, or as I've mentioned before, the addiction to the adrenalin rush that anger brings.

Rush Limbaugh is a despicable person. He says despicable things all the time. That he is so popular, even the most influential "conservative" of our time, says that America is a land of some very hateful, easily manipulated people.

Fortunately not all Americans are like that, maybe not even the majority (I hope.) Nevertheless, the screeching minority that is the Limbaugh-nation is not few in number.

agreed, the voters are easily manipulated and in the 08 election it was in fact the majority...very scary AmIdol politics, and it will get worse before it gets better

59 Achilles Tang  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:51:58pm

re: #6 elizajane

There's a really sad logic here.

1. Somebody is out to get the elderly.
2. It must be the leftists and Marxists, because
3. They always kill off the educated people.

In other words, the educated people in this country are only the elderly.
Is this perhaps some ironic comment on the state of education in today's America? Alas, probably not.

How can anybody take this man seriously?

He, along with Glenn Beck have come to realize that there are a lot of people who do.

Glenn Beck seems to be refining his act to resemble Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood show.

(for the young uns)

60 solomonpanting  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:52:04pm

re: #43 CyanSnowHawk

GnR positive?

A friend once told me that one of the most vile things he ever smelled was when Axel Rose walked by upwind of him when he was in Hawaii.

Especially if your friend was in Seattle at the time.

61 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:52:45pm

Rush is giving "the left" entirely too much credit. They get bogged down in ideological navel-gazing just trying to dispose of their own trash; witness their endless debates over mandatory recycling and compost heaps.
How are they going to get rid of a whole demographic?

62 Killgore Trout  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:52:51pm

re: #45 freetoken

when Limbaugh says Obama wants to kill old people like Stalin we don't have to ask really if Limbaugh believes it is true or not. Limbaugh knows that by just raising and harping on the issue he will get listeners to begin thinking in certain directions, such as whether Obama really cares about old people, or associating the 3 syllable word "Obama" with the two syllable world "Stalin", for example.


Excellent response.

63 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:53:13pm

Are Britain and Canada killing off their elderly?

64 Joanne  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:54:09pm

re: #34 JustJay

No, not really talking to myself. :)

Please excuse any typos, I'm on an iPhone and if I use preview, the original page might refresh and I'd lose what I wrote. I beg forgivness in advance.

65 soxfan4life  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:54:13pm

re: #63 Alouette

Are Britain and Canada killing off their elderly?

They don't have quite the same population numbers that we do.

66 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:54:14pm

re: #63 Alouette

Are Britain and Canada killing off their elderly?

Not that I know of. It would be hard to explain the House of Lords if the were.

68 Decatur Deb  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:54:29pm

re: #59 Naso Tang

(snip)
Glenn Beck seems to be refining his act to resemble Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood show.

(for the young uns)

That needs elaboration. (Used to live in the real Neighborhood.)

69 SilentAlfa  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:54:40pm

re: #54 cliffster

If you think Rush is an idiot, then you're not thinking.

Rush is a manipulative genius who plays on the irrational fears of gullible Americans. Fixed. I still can't help but think he's an idiot whenever I hear anything come out of his mouth.

70 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:54:46pm

re: #60 solomonpanting

Especially if your friend was in Seattle at the time.

It was only 10 ft. but he was wishing he was in Seattle, or at least anywhere but there. Had no idea how the groupies hanging on him could stand it.

71 Digital Display  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:54:50pm

re: #35 Cato the Elder

Would you hire one?

If his name was Bill Gates..He dropped out

72 Achilles Tang  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:54:50pm

re: #48 CyanSnowHawk

How many believe the WWE is really wrestling?
It's worse than you thought.

How many believe it belongs on the SciFi channel?
It's even worse.

73 wrenchwench  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:54:58pm

re: #67 Gus 802

There's that basket of facts!

74 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:55:11pm

re: #38 cliffster

Do you have anywhere close to the amount of money he has?

Do you have anything close to resembling a normal brain?

75 Gus  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:55:52pm

re: #73 wrenchwench

There's that basket of facts!

The elves and me were working quietly in the background. ;)

I'm sure there's more.

76 freetoken  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:56:03pm

re: #72 Naso Tang

How many believe it belongs on the SciFi channel?
It's even worse.

Perhaps not, but then again, maybe the WWE is perfect for the SyFy

77 Racer X  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:56:18pm

I remember listening to Rush when Clinton was elected. He became totally obnoxious and annoying. Like now.

78 albusteve  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:56:43pm

re: #71 HoosierHoops

If his name was Bill Gates..He dropped out

his entire issue is laughable and elitist...he probably hires a PhD to change a tire

79 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:57:01pm

The talent Rush got
On loan from God
Shrinks to a farthing
When he's on the nod.

Copyright 2009 Cato the Elder; reference to drug use intentional and meant to cause harm to the person referenced

80 austin_blue  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:58:06pm

re: #69 SilentAlfa

Rush is a manipulative genius who plays on the irrational fears of gullible Americans. Fixed. I still can't help but think he's an idiot whenever I hear anything come out of his mouth.

Throwin' red meat to the great unwashed. For them the schtick never gets old, because for them, it's not schtick. Rush speaks Truth to Power!

Bless their hearts...

81 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:58:06pm

re: #66 Cato the Elder

ΠΙΜΦ: "...if they were."

82 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:59:07pm

re: #54 cliffster

If you think Rush is an idiot, then you're not thinking.

No one said Rush is an idiot.

His defenders, here and elsewhere, well, now...

83 austin_blue  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:59:08pm

re: #81 Cato the Elder

ΠΙΜΦ: "...if they were."

Nicely placed use of the Cyrillic, Comrade!

84 Charles Johnson  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:59:36pm

re: #45 freetoken

Excellent comment. Couldn't agree more. This is how populist demagoguery works -- with perfunctory denials added so when people call him on it he can say, "But look, I said I'm NOT comparing him to Stalin and Mao!"

85 albusteve  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:59:39pm

re: #80 austin_blue

Throwin' red meat to the great unwashed. For them the schtick never gets old, because for them, it's not schtick. Rush speaks Truth to Power!

Bless their hearts...

SYMBIOSIS!

86 solomonpanting  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 5:59:51pm

re: #77 Racer X

I remember listening to Rush when Clinton was elected. He became totally obnoxious and annoying. Like now.

I read a Rush interview years ago. The only thing I remember was when he said his opinion of The Beatles soured after they recorded Revolution. I don't believe he listened to the lyrics.

87 Digital Display  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:00:54pm

re: #78 albusteve

his entire issue is laughable and elitist...he probably hires a PhD to change a tire

I hate it when somebody has a vision of technology, Drops out of College and becomes one of the richest men on the face of the Earth..
Somebody told me once that was the American Dream...
what do you call it?
/Hi Steve..I'm just rattling your chain Bro

88 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:01:11pm

re: #78 albusteve

his entire issue is laughable and elitist...he probably hires a PhD to change a tire

Thanks to Bush and Co., PhDs are now cheaper than mechanics.

And I am proud to call myself an élitist if by that term you mean preferring people who can think.

89 austin_blue  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:01:38pm

re: #85 albusteve

SYMBIOSIS!

With the radical left demagogues? No. I prefer to think of it as convergent evolution.

90 Gus  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:01:42pm

What Matt Drudge didn't want his readers to see.

Obama at West Point.

91 albusteve  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:02:09pm

re: #87 HoosierHoops

I hate it when somebody has a vision of technology, Drops out of College and becomes one of the richest men on the face of the Earth..
Somebody told me once that was the American Dream...
what do you call it?
/Hi Steve..I'm just rattling your chain Bro

I was referring to Cato's comedic bluster

92 steelerjoe  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:02:34pm

How is this any different than the hate from Ed Shultz and Air America when Bush was President? Idiots are on the left and right.

93 albusteve  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:03:04pm

re: #88 Cato the Elder

Thanks to Bush and Co., PhDs are now cheaper than mechanics.

And I am proud to call myself an élitist if by that term you mean preferring people who can think.

preferring what?...to fix your toilet because you can't?

94 Digital Display  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:03:31pm

re: #91 albusteve

I was referring to Cato's comedic bluster

Whoops..Missed that Steve...

95 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:03:34pm

re: #83 austin_blue

Nicely placed use of the Cyrillic, Comrade!

Ahem. That would be good old democratic Greek, φρατηρ!

96 Joanne  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:03:50pm

re: #57 Killgore Trout

I'm a long time reader and just got thru the door, so I've been reading comments for a long time. I often agree with you, but, perhaps you have more faith in the thinking ability for a lot of people where I don't.

Look at how many people think Palin is qualified to be POTUS.

Yes, I do honestly think a lot of people believe Obama is a secret Muslim who was not born here and is a secret Marxist socialist. Beck and Limbaugh feed into that...the paranoia of the scary Other (be it black, Muslim, etc.)

97 albusteve  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:04:20pm

re: #89 austin_blue

With the radical left demagogues? No. I prefer to think of it as convergent evolution.

heh...that works pretty good to

98 Gus  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:05:07pm

re: #92 steelerjoe

How is this any different than the hate from Ed Shultz and Air America when Bush was President? Idiots are on the left and right.

The answer to that (on of a few) would be...

"Who's Ed Shultz?"

99 Gus  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:05:29pm

re: #98 Gus 802

The answer to that (on one of a few) would be...

"Who's Ed Shultz?"

One... PIMF

100 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:05:33pm

re: #91 albusteve

I was referring to Cato's comedic bluster

Are you calling me a comedo, you zit?!

101 Racer X  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:06:17pm

re: #92 steelerjoe

Idiots are on the left and right.

Sorry - this is a 'bash the right' thread.

The bash the left thread is, is .. . where did that thread go?

102 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:06:26pm

re: #97 albusteve

heh...that works pretty good to

It would require interbreeding the bloodlines.

Janeane Limbaugh? I just don't see that happening.

103 albusteve  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:06:43pm

re: #100 Cato the Elder

Are you calling me a comedo, you zit?!

I'm a wart, not a zit, you boil

104 austin_blue  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:06:45pm

re: #92 steelerjoe

How is this any different than the hate from Ed Shultz and Air America when Bush was President? Idiots are on the left and right.

Because even the most strident wingnuts, who claimed that people were dying in Iraq because Bush lied, never descended in the muck to the point of accusing Bush of a plot to kill innocent Americans at home.

See the difference? No?

Allrighty then!

105 Decatur Deb  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:07:12pm

re: #101 Racer X

Sorry - this is a 'bash the right' thread.

The bash the left thread is, is .. . where did that thread go?

That's so Last Week.

106 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:07:21pm

re: #16 Dark_Falcon

No, it was preceded by the even worse Great Leap Forward, the greatest famine is history.

And the anti-Rightist campaign, and hundreds of other crimes before that, all blissfully forgotten among western Voices of Compassion.

When Chou first arrived in Ruijin at the end of 1931, he had adjudged Mao's purge methods as not altogether correct. Mao had "relied entirely on confessions and torture," and "caused terror in the masses." Chou rehabilitated some victims. [...]
But within a matter of months Chou had brought this respite to an end. Even so short a period of rehabilitation and easing up had released a groundswell of dissidence. "Relaxing about purges caused counter-revolutionaries...to raise their heads again," Chou's security men noted aghast. And as people thought, wishfully, that there would be "no more killings," "no more arrests," they started to band together to defy Communist orders. It rapidly became clear that the regime could not survive without constant killings, and killing soon restarted.
-- Jung Chang and Jon Halliday, _Mao, The Unknown
Story_, 2005

107 cliffster  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:07:27pm

re: #74 Cato the Elder

Do you have anything close to resembling a normal brain?

No.

108 austin_blue  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:07:46pm

re: #95 Cato the Elder

Ahem. That would be good old democratic Greek, φρατηρ!

Really? There is that much crossover?

109 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:08:06pm

re: #90 Gus 802

What Matt Drudge didn't want his readers to see.

Obama at West Point.

:) It looks like the one cadet to his left is reaching out for a fist bump.

110 Gus  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:09:08pm

re: #109 The Sanity Inspector

:) It looks like the one cadet to his left is reaching out for a fist bump.

Oh yeah. With the ring right?

Like I said yesterday. They're good kids.

111 Decatur Deb  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:09:46pm

re: #108 austin_blue

Really? There is that much crossover?

St. Cyrill was Greek.

112 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:10:08pm

re: #104 austin_blue

Because even the most strident wingnuts, who claimed that people were dying in Iraq because Bush lied, never descended in the muck to the point of accusing Bush of a plot to kill innocent Americans at home.

See the difference? No?

Allrighty then!

*koff*...

113 freetoken  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:10:33pm

re: #104 austin_blue

... never descended in the muck to the point of accusing Bush of a plot to kill innocent Americans at home.

Heh... Jesse Ventura might have a different opinion...

114 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:11:30pm

re: #96 JustJay

I'm a long time reader and just got thru the door, so I've been reading comments for a long time. I often agree with you, but, perhaps you have more faith in the thinking ability for a lot of people where I don't.

Look at how many people think Palin is qualified to be POTUS.

Yes, I do honestly think a lot of people believe Obama is a secret Muslim who was not born here and is a secret Marxist socialist. Beck and Limbaugh feed into that...the paranoia of the scary Other (be it black, Muslim, etc.)

I'm intrigued by the idea that one could really believe that Obama is going to 'take away your freedom', or kill your grandmother, or what have you, but continue to sit on one's duff, listening to Rush or Glenn or whomever.

It seems odd.

115 austin_blue  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:11:37pm

re: #112 The Sanity Inspector

*koff*...

On Air America? Don't think so. That's Alex Jones' bailiwick. Most definitely not a Leftie.

116 katemaclaren  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:12:56pm

re: #63 Alouette

UK is.

117 Achilles Tang  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:13:14pm

re: #68 Decatur Deb

That needs elaboration. (Used to live in the real Neighborhood.)

I mean simply that I get the impression he thinks I'm under 10, if I imagine he is talking to me.

118 Varek Raith  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:13:15pm

re: #115 austin_blue

On Air America? Don't think so. That's Alex Jones' bailiwick. Most definitely not a Leftie.

Jones resides in a parallel dimension.

119 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:13:21pm

re: #108 austin_blue

Really? There is that much crossover?

The Cyrillic alphabet was designed specifically for the Slavic language by SS Cyril and Methodius, missionaries to Russia. Since they were from Greece and read the Bible in Greek, they took a lot of letters straight from that alphabet. Their genius was in finding simple letters for sounds that don't exist in other languages, such as Щ for "shch", which non-Slavs have as much trouble pronouncing as Slavs do our "H".

120 Joanne  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:14:05pm

OT, sorry!

Can someone point me to a Read Me file on this site? I think I just managed to love (fav) myself. I'm trying to see what all the icons, and such, mean.

TIA for any assistance!

121 Decatur Deb  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:14:21pm

re: #117 Naso Tang

Cool. Always had a thing for Lady Eberlin.

122 darthstar  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:14:34pm

re: #29 CyanSnowHawk

Renew, renew, renew!

Great reference...Logan's Run was a favorite of mine when I was a kid.

123 katemaclaren  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:14:38pm

re: #109 The Sanity Inspector

My neighbor's son was there (a cadet)--he said the cadets were BORED and restless. They have exams and papers --it's the end of the semester--and many were very annoyed at having to be there four hours--in their seats, having lunch out of a box while they waited for the prez.

124 austin_blue  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:15:14pm

re: #119 Cato the Elder

The Cyrillic alphabet was designed specifically for the Slavic language by SS Cyril and Methodius, missionaries to Russia. Since they were from Greece and read the Bible in Greek, they took a lot of letters straight from that alphabet. Their genius was in finding simple letters for sounds that don't exist in other languages, such as Щ for "shch", which non-Slavs have as much trouble pronouncing as Slavs do our "H".

That makes perfect sense. Thanks for the edification!

125 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:15:16pm

re: #103 albusteve

I'm a wart, not a zit, you boil

Ah, go boil your blackhead, you bezoar!

126 Irish Rose  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:15:29pm

re: #120 JustJay

OT, sorry!

Can someone point me to a Read Me file on this site? I think I just managed to love (fav) myself. I'm trying to see what all the icons, and such, mean.

TIA for any assistance!

No worries, there are a lot of people around here who love themselves ;).

127 austin_blue  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:16:39pm

re: #118 Varek Raith

Jones resides in a parallel dimension.

And his minions, searching for a candidate last year seemed peculiarly attracted, at least in Austin to...Ron Paul!

128 steelerjoe  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:16:50pm

re: #115 austin_blue

On Air America? Don't think so. That's Alex Jones' bailiwick. Most definitely not a Leftie.


Are you sure?

Air America 9/11 Inside Job

129 Idle Drifter  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:16:51pm

re: #104 austin_blue

Because even the most strident wingnuts, who claimed that people were dying in Iraq because Bush lied, never descended in the muck to the point of accusing Bush of a plot to kill innocent Americans at home.

See the difference? No? Allrighty then!


Well there were the 9/11 troofers that want it both ways that either it was a government plot or former President Bush knew and did nothing to stop it because it would be the perfect excuse to start a war for oil.
Though their party of choice seemed as varied as the "theories" that were being cooked up.

130 Decatur Deb  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:17:08pm

re: #120 JustJay

No Readme. You're supposed to make a fool of yourself. Builds character.

131 freetoken  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:17:09pm

Well, the AGW deniers and their "climategate" scandal have found a powerful ally: The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia:


E-mails hacked from a climate research institute suggest climate change does not have a human cause, according to Saudi Arabia's lead climate negotiator.

Mohammad Al-Sabban told BBC News that the issue will have a "huge impact" on next week's UN climate summit, with countries unwilling to cut emissions.

[...]

"Climate is changing for thousands of years, but for natural and not human-induced reasons.

[...]

Well, the KSA and James Inhofe on the same page... Birds of a feather deny together?

132 katemaclaren  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:17:14pm

Two doctors talking as nurse walks by. She's carrying a pan of water--it's steaming hot.
Doctor: I'm going to fire that nurse--she does everything backwards.
Sound of scream coming from the room the nurse entered...eeeyaaah.
Doctor: See? I distinctly told her to go in there and prick his boil.

133 Charles Johnson  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:17:36pm

re: #120 JustJay

OT, sorry!

Can someone point me to a Read Me file on this site? I think I just managed to love (fav) myself. I'm trying to see what all the icons, and such, mean.

TIA for any assistance!

That readme file is still unwritten, I'm afraid. Here's a post with a short explanation of the 'heart' button:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

And when you click a red heart and it turns green, you can click it again to go directly to your 'My Favorites' page.

134 nordink  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:17:53pm

Charles, I was wondering your thoughts on Dennis Prager? His style is very different from Rush's, obviously. I first found you -- years ago -- through Prager. Do you ever communicate with him? I believe you guys had a mutual respect. His views do seem to be in great conflict with yours (on 'climate change,' for instance.) I think it'd be interesting for you two guys -- both smart, both eschewing histrionics -- to have a wide-ranging discussion...

135 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:18:16pm

re: #127 austin_blue

And his minions, searching for a candidate last year seemed peculiarly attracted, at least in Austin to...Ron Paul!

Well he is a fellow Texan. People tend to like the figures from nearby. It's a normal human reaction, albeit one that sucked a number of Texans into Bad Craziness.

136 Achilles Tang  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:18:22pm

re: #120 JustJay

OT, sorry!

Can someone point me to a Read Me file on this site? I think I just managed to love (fav) myself. I'm trying to see what all the icons, and such, mean.

TIA for any assistance!

Don't touch that icon too often. You might go blind.

137 Gus  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:19:06pm

re: #129 Idle Drifter

Well there were the 9/11 troofers that want it both ways that either it was a government plot or former President Bush knew and did nothing to stop it because it would be the perfect excuse to start a war for oil.
Though their party of choice seemed as varied as the "theories" that were being cooked up.

Trutherism always seemed to attract a lot of convergent personalities. For the most part it was made up of a lot of Libertarians and Ron Paul supporters.

138 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:19:28pm

re: #120 JustJay

OT, sorry!

Can someone point me to a Read Me file on this site? I think I just managed to love (fav) myself. I'm trying to see what all the icons, and such, mean.

TIA for any assistance!

The "heart" icon just means that you saved your comment.

139 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:20:41pm

A couple of Ugandan blogs to take a look at:

SebaSpace

Gay Uganda

140 austin_blue  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:21:33pm

re: #128 steelerjoe

Are you sure?

Air America 9/11 Inside Job

Well someone said they heard that she said and did anyone hear it?

((To quote:

"Today, 2/23/06 at 7:39 pm EST, XM SAT radio channel 167, Air America Radio, The Majority Report, co-host Janeane Garofalo said, "9/11 was an inside job!! I have come to this conclusion about that.""
www.total411.info/2006/02/g...e-job.html

Anyone hear this? Can anyone confirm?

If true... right the fuck on Janeane.

Endquote))

If true, then I agree she was an idiot.

141 katemaclaren  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:22:15pm

re: #139 SanFranciscoZionist

Uganda--formerly run by Idi Amin. I have two students from Uganda--it ain't pretty over there from what they tell me--no no no.

142 Racer X  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:22:48pm

re: #131 freetoken

Well, the KSA and James Inhofe on the same page... Birds of a feather deny together?

Oh yeah. Mutual respect there for sure.

/

143 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:22:53pm

Charles, there's a huge turd in aisle #239 of the "Reactions to a Manifesto" thread...was duly reported.

144 punkindrublic  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:23:00pm

I won't worry about Russshh mmm mmm mmm. I will concern myself with which of the seven seals of the apocolypse President B.H.O. cracks open this weekend; you KNOW there'll be at least one.

145 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:23:25pm

There used to be an "LGF FAQ" or "LGF Dictionary" but the person who was in charge of maintaining it is no longer with us.

146 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:23:42pm

re: #20 MandyManners

By the way, Mandy, someone downstairs a few stories was asking about your avatar.

I explained as best I could in your absence: "Mandy's favorite rebuke to people she doesn't agree with is 'go piss up a rope'. That little picture is Calvin peeing on the Arabic word for 'rope'. Right, Mandy?"

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

147 solomonpanting  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:23:45pm

re: #128 steelerjoe

Are you sure?

Air America 9/11 Inside Job

Bush also let Katrina happen, which killed thousands.
I'm looking for the link that confirms he also conjured up the hurricane.

148 Joanne  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:23:50pm

re: #114 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm intrigued by the idea that one could really believe that Obama is going to 'take away your freedom', or kill your grandmother, or what have you, but continue to sit on one's duff, listening to Rush or Glenn or whomever.

It seems odd.

Are they sitting on their butts? There's a billboard in CO calling Obama a jihadist and talking about revolution. Bachmann was on Hardball (gak) last year and called for an inquiry as to how many congressmen and women were unAmerican. Just yesterday a SENATOR said HCR will kill seniors. How many trillions of people went to DC for Beck's last excellent adventure? I have a hard time believing these people just want to hang out with Beck. And the fact that some elected officials have lost their freaking minds and says anything like the two examples I just gave, there are a lot of people who believe this.

149 BruceKelly  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:24:03pm

re: #117 Naso Tang

I mean simply that I get the impression he thinks I'm under 10, if I imagine he is talking to me.

Oh, I thought it was a sweater thing.

150 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:24:27pm

re: #145 Alouette

There used to be an "LGF FAQ" or "LGF Dictionary" but the person who was in charge of maintaining it is no longer with us.

Not only that, but some of it was vicious.

151 Charles Johnson  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:24:37pm

re: #143 talon_262

Charles, there's a huge turd in aisle #239 of the "Reactions to a Manifesto" thread...was duly reported.

Thanks, but I think you need to read it again with your 'sarcasm' glasses on.

152 Sheepdogess  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:25:50pm

re: #3 armylaw

Bill Gates was also college dropout.

153 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:26:23pm

re: #152 Sheepdogess

Bill Gates was also college dropout.

Good point.

154 Gus  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:26:44pm

re: #147 solomonpanting

Bush also let Katrina happen, which killed thousands.
I'm looking for the link that confirms he also conjured up the hurricane.

I didn't like that either. None of it. Not with Bush, not with Obama, not with Clinton.

155 Joanne  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:26:59pm

re: #130 Decatur Deb

No Readme. You're supposed to make a fool of yourself. Builds character.

I am, if nothing else, a character!

156 Digital Display  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:27:02pm

CNBC: Inside the mind of Google 9pm-10pm EST
The development of the popular Internet search engine.
For all my friends that love geek stuff tonight..

157 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:27:40pm

re: #148 JustJay

WTF was up with that #239 of yours in the "Reactions to a Manifesto" thread?

No sarc tag, so it got reported...

158 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:28:02pm

re: #152 Sheepdogess

Bill Gates was also college dropout.

And he actually created something of value.

159 Idle Drifter  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:28:29pm

re: #137 Gus 802

Trutherism always seemed to attract a lot of convergent personalities. For the most part it was made up of a lot of Libertarians and Ron Paul supporters.

There's also the anarchist element that'll use anything as an excuse to smash up public and private property. No doubt there are many who claim to be independents while listening to Alex Jones while reading Info Wars.

160 Decatur Deb  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:29:26pm

re: #158 Cato the Elder

And he actually created something of value.

A groundswell for Linux?

161 Joanne  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:29:30pm

re: #133 Charles

Thank you!

162 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:29:56pm

re: #154 Gus 802

I didn't like that either. None of it. Not with Bush, not with Obama, not with Clinton.

Still, crazy theories relating to Presidents have a long and dishonorable pedigree. They can't be entirely gotten rid of, only marginalized. Sometimes however, they manage to gain a wider audience. Right now is one of those times, thanks to Limbaugh, and Beck.

163 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:30:09pm

re: #151 Charles

re: #157 talon_262

Excuse me if I'm a little dense right now...still at work and ready to go home.

/apparently my sarcasm meter and reading comprehension is all used up for the night...

164 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:30:17pm

New people, be careful to add sarc tags until folks get to know you.

It may seem obvious to you that you are being sarcastic. It may not seem obvious to other people, who will be upset, downding you, and develop a bad opinion of your character. Overdo the sarcing until your style of writing becomes familiar to most of us.

Just a suggestion.

165 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:30:32pm

re: #160 Decatur Deb

A groundswell for Linux?

SMACK!

166 steelerjoe  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:30:45pm

I don't want to get in a google search link war but there were just as many
conspiracy theories about Bush the past 8 years. Maybe the lefties learned well from the Clinton conspiracies in the 90's. But to say that what we are hearing from Rush, Beck and others is anything new or earth-shattering is laughable.

167 Joanne  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:30:46pm

re: #136 Naso Tang

Wait one. I need to find my glasses. ;)

168 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:31:14pm

re: #160 Decatur Deb

A groundswell for Linux?

That, too, and a huge market pool for Apple.

Rush Limbaugh's contribution to society will die when his larynx is removed from all those cigars.

169 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:31:23pm

re: #158 Cato the Elder

And he actually created something of value.

I once mad a pitcher of lemonade and sold it for $.05 a glass

After paying for all the supplies, I think I ended up losing about a buck!

170 Only The Lurker Knows  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:31:37pm

Well Lizards, it is time to call it a night. Cato, you are here by released from your self imposed 100 up ding promise to the winner of who could best interpret another Lizards post for you. Feel free to reverse those that you have done. Just remember, words do have consequences and you can and will (eventually) be held accountable.

Weet Dreams All.

171 freetoken  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:32:17pm

re: #159 Idle Drifter

... Alex Jones while reading Info Wars.

Speaking of which, I see they are really pushing the "climategate" brouhaha over there...

I'm sensing some deep and widely held belief in our society to get even with scientists, and "climategate" seems to be bringing that out greatly.

172 freetoken  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:33:00pm

re: #171 freetoken

I should have said "urge", not "belief".

173 Gus  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:33:39pm

re: #162 Dark_Falcon

Still, crazy theories relating to Presidents have a long and dishonorable pedigree. They can't be entirely gotten rid of, only marginalized. Sometimes however, they manage to gain a wider audience. Right now is one of those times, thanks to Limbaugh, and Beck.

And right now the volume is at 11. We have to accept the fact that it's more intense in certain respects given that Rush gets 6 million listeners and Beck a little under 3 million. Every single day. Air America, while equally repulsive during the Bush presidency, never even approached those number. That's the problem here, it's that this crazy talk is getting wider acceptance -- which is something you point to.

174 Charles Johnson  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:34:22pm

re: #134 nordink

Charles, I was wondering your thoughts on Dennis Prager? His style is very different from Rush's, obviously. I first found you -- years ago -- through Prager. Do you ever communicate with him? I believe you guys had a mutual respect. His views do seem to be in great conflict with yours (on 'climate change,' for instance.) I think it'd be interesting for you two guys -- both smart, both eschewing histrionics -- to have a wide-ranging discussion...

I like Dennis a lot. He's a very sharp guy. But he has some pretty big blind spots - especially about issues that deal with science. Not just global warming, either - he also buys into the "intelligent design" creationism BS.

In a way, he's emblematic of the worst problems of the right wing -- the distrust of science, and the willingness to throw out rational inquiry in favor of comfortable ignorance.

175 Irish Rose  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:34:39pm

re: #156 HoosierHoops

CNBC: Inside the mind of Google 9pm-10pm EST
The development of the popular Internet search engine.
For all my friends that love geek stuff tonight..

Hey Hoops, how ya doin'?

176 Idle Drifter  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:35:02pm

re: #171 freetoken

Speaking of which, I see they are really pushing the "climategate" brouhaha over there...

I'm sensing some deep and widely held belief in our society to get even with scientists, and "climategate" seems to be bringing that out greatly.

That would be shooting the messenger and the person who may come up with the idea to save us all.

177 Joanne  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:36:04pm

re: #157 talon_262

WTF was up with that #239 of yours in the "Reactions to a Manifesto" thread?

No sarc tag, so it got reported...

OMG! That was my turd you were referring to?? I'm so sorry! I assumed that was so outrageously over the top you all would know it was snark.

Duly noted for future reference.

178 Racer X  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:37:35pm

Suicide bomber kills three Somali ministers

And 16 others.

The U.N.-backed government of President Sheikh Sharif Ahmed controls little more than a few streets of the capital.

179 Irish Rose  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:37:37pm

re: #177 JustJay

OMG! That was my turd you were referring to?? I'm so sorry! I assumed that was so outrageously over the top you all would know it was snark.

Duly noted for future reference.

Try adding a few sarc tags the end of your post: ///

180 Digital Display  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:37:46pm

re: #175 Irish Rose

Hey Hoops, how ya doin'?

I'm doing wonderful..How are you doing Irish?
I'm checking out the new google app on this show..
you take a picture of anything and it instantly does a google search for that picture and displays it on the phone..cool neat stuff..
Missed you

181 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:37:48pm

re: #170 Bubblehead II

Well Lizards, it is time to call it a night. Cato, you are here by released from your self imposed 100 up ding promise to the winner of who could best interpret another Lizards post for you. Feel free to reverse those that you have done. Just remember, words do have consequences and you can and will (eventually) be held accountable.

Weet Dreams All.

I do believe you're actually serious.

Seek help.

I'll upding you as I see your stuff, but I won't scan every thread to find if you've posted there. And I'm not actually going to count to 100. In that sense, it was a joke.

If your responses have been anonther elaborate joke, I apologize.

182 Charles Johnson  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:38:31pm

For the newbies, when people talk about a 'sarcasm tag' they mean putting a slash at the end of your sarcastic post, like this:

/

I don't know exactly how this became an LGF convention, but there you have it.

183 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:38:31pm

re: #179 Irish Rose

Try adding a few sarc tags the end of your post: ///

No, don't. Sarc tags are for wusses who don't trust their own writing.

184 Racer X  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:39:51pm

re: #180 HoosierHoops

I'm doing wonderful..How are you doing Irish?
I'm checking out the new google app on this show..
you take a picture of anything and it instantly does a google search for that picture and displays it on the phone..cool neat stuff..
Missed you

My wife has a new iPhone. That damn thing blows me away at what it can do. She can be out shopping and take a picture of the bar code on an item, and immediately see how much it costs at other stores.

185 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:39:54pm

re: #150 Cato the Elder

Not only that, but some of it was vicious.

I'm the Vicious Babushka.

186 Irish Rose  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:39:54pm

re: #183 Cato the Elder

No, don't. Sarc tags are for wusses who don't trust their own writing.

They're also for people who don't want to be misinterpreted.

187 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:39:58pm

re: #174 Charles

I like Dennis a lot. He's a very sharp guy. But he has some pretty big blind spots - especially about issues that deal with science. Not just global warming, either - he also buys into the "intelligent design" creationism BS.

In a way, he's emblematic of the worst problems of the right wing -- the distrust of science, and the willingness to throw out rational inquiry in favor of comfortable ignorance.

Prager beleives in ID the same way most Christians and Jews do. That God "created the heavens and the earth,,," Beyond that, again like most Christians and Jews he belives the science of evolution.
As far as AGW, he's not a "denier" but rather skeptical of the "models" scope (i.e. he doesn't belive that say Kansas City will be ocean front property soon)

188 McSpiff  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:40:08pm

re: #183 Cato the Elder

No, don't. Sarc tags are for wusses who don't trust their own writing.

I sometimes use them to confuse an adversary. ///

189 Decatur Deb  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:40:17pm

re: #177 JustJay

OMG! That was my turd you were referring to?? I'm so sorry! I assumed that was so outrageously over the top you all would know it was snark.

Duly noted for future reference.

Feel that character building?

190 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:40:27pm

re: #166 steelerjoe

I don't want to get in a google search link war but there were just as many
conspiracy theories about Bush the past 8 years. Maybe the lefties learned well from the Clinton conspiracies in the 90's. But to say that what we are hearing from Rush, Beck and others is anything new or earth-shattering is laughable.

I think you're right about the building of grudges and techniques from Presidency to Presidency.

It's becoming more mainstreamed, is my fear. Yes, I heard some hair-raising crazy crap about Bush over the past two terms, but it was not coming from people on a major news network, or as well established as Limbaugh. And not from current officeholders, although God knows Cynthia McKinney is making up for lost time. Please note here that I don't mean political criticism, even crazy political criticism, but this sort of conspiracy-minded nuttiness. The Troofers didn't have these sorts of mainstreamed voices that I'm aware of.

Michael Moore comes to mind as the possible exception. I don't know much about his work, but although he obviously considered Bush a malicious and bad president, I don't recall these kinds of overt suggestions that there were secret, horrible plans afoot, etc., etc. Maybe there were. I have never seen a Michael Moore movie, or followed his work much.

191 BruceKelly  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:40:27pm

re: #177 JustJay

OMG! That was my turd you were referring to?? I'm so sorry! I assumed that was so outrageously over the top you all would know it was snark.

Ha! What's funny is that it could very well be taken as an honest statement these days

192 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:40:37pm

re: #178 Racer X

Suicide bomber kills three Somali ministers

And 16 others.

More destruction from these scum, who don't even want the sick of their nation to be healed.

al Shabaab Delenda Est.

193 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:41:09pm

re: #171 freetoken

Speaking of which, I see they are really pushing the "climategate" brouhaha over there...

I'm sensing some deep and widely held belief in our society to get even with scientists, and "climategate" seems to be bringing that out greatly.

I'm trying to think of the last scientist who wronged me. Do MDs count?

194 Racer X  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:41:09pm

re: #186 Irish Rose

They're also for people who don't want to be misinterpreted.

I don't think Cato worries about that.

195 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:41:19pm

re: #182 Charles

For the newbies, when people talk about a 'sarcasm tag' they mean putting a slash at the end of your sarcastic post, like this:

/

I don't know exactly how this became an LGF convention, but there you have it.

I think it became shorthand for </sarcasm> the well-known HTML tag
/

196 nordink  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:41:28pm

re: #174 Charles

Thanks for your response, Charles . . . I forgot about Dennis Prager's attachment to "intelligent design." I wonder if wants it taught in science classes, though, or if he just believes it himself? (It would bum me out if he wanted it presented as science...)

I do like following both you and Dennis. I appreciate your questioning religion and his (sorry) skepticism about some things in the science department. For me, you two are a healthy mix...

197 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:41:48pm

re: #177 JustJay

OMG! That was my turd you were referring to?? I'm so sorry! I assumed that was so outrageously over the top you all would know it was snark.

Duly noted for future reference.

Sorry to be so rough on you, my sarcasm detector apparently wasn't working and I'm ready to punch out of work for a day off...

198 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:42:15pm

re: #177 JustJay

LGF is a learning experience. Misunderstandings happen. See #181 above, a bit of possible confusion there.

199 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:42:17pm

re: #186 Irish Rose

They're also for people who don't want to be misinterpreted.

People who misinterpret me are free to ask for guidance.

I repeat, sarc tags are for poor writers.

200 Joanne  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:42:33pm

re: #189 Decatur Deb

Feel that character building?

Oy! This much character I don't know if I can stand.

201 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:42:52pm

re: #199 Cato the Elder

People who misinterpret me are free to ask for guidance.

I repeat, sarc tags are for poor writers.

//they//are//??//

202 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:42:58pm

re: #183 Cato the Elder

Or some of the readers perhaps?
Present company excluded of course.

203 Irish Rose  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:43:50pm

Don't mind Cato, he's our resident crank ;).

204 Racer X  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:44:00pm

re: #199 Cato the Elder

I repeat, sarc tags are for poor writers.

Said the filthy rich elitist.

/ /

205 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:44:33pm

re: #200 JustJay

Oy! This much character I don't know if I can stand.

You'll live, kiddo. See? Not so bad. People get it now.

206 reine.de.tout  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:45:33pm

re: #203 Irish Rose

Don't mind Cato, he's our resident crank ;).

curmudgeon might be the word of choice.

207 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:45:35pm

I think I may have a raccoon on the roof. It's pattering a bit heavier than the squirrels normally do.

208 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:45:37pm

Okay kiddies
The overnight guy just showed up, so i'm packing up and heading home!
Cya Tomorree!

209 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:45:38pm

re: #204 Racer X

Said the filthy rich elitist.

/ /

Yes, I can afford to be misunderstood. My royalties from the ditties I post here are enough to feed huge swarms of hacks.

210 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:45:49pm

re: #200 JustJay

Oy! This much character I don't know if I can stand.

It'll grow hair on your chest!

/or is it on your feet, like a Hobbit?

211 freetoken  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:45:53pm

re: #193 SanFranciscoZionist

It's probably more a reaction to the rate of change in modern society.

Modernity has brought with it a responsibility to be knowledgeable on a very large number of aspects of our world around us, part of it created by us, and that has scared some, I propose.

However, among the more religious there has been portrayed from the pulpit, for some time, an antagonism between science and belief in what is good.

There is also the long history of science ➙ government action, and the "conservatives" in this country all know that government = evil, then science must led it evil.

212 SilentAlfa  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:46:13pm

re: #199 Cato the Elder

People who misinterpret me are free to ask for guidance.

I repeat, sarc tags are for poor writers.

sarc tags are for the weak, real man would rather look like an idiot than type a couple of slashes

213 Gus  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:46:56pm

re: #166 steelerjoe

I don't want to get in a google search link war but there were just as many
conspiracy theories about Bush the past 8 years. Maybe the lefties learned well from the Clinton conspiracies in the 90's. But to say that what we are hearing from Rush, Beck and others is anything new or earth-shattering is laughable.

Here's one from "right-wing" World Nut Daily from 2005:

President Bush supporting global communist domination

214 steelerjoe  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:46:57pm

Rush was as big of an influence back in 1992 and 1996 and Clinton was still elected just like Obama was elected. Rush isn't the problem for the GOP. Michael Steele will set the part back a decade if he isn't pushed out of the RNC Chair soon.

215 cliffster  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:47:38pm
216 freetoken  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:47:49pm

re: #214 steelerjoe

Michael Steele will set the part back a decade if he isn't pushed out of the RNC Chair soon.

Because ...?

217 Sheepdogess  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:48:00pm

Dennis a Praeger re: #174 Charles

Dennis Prager is one of the greatest thinkers in America today. He is a classic liberal and a brilliant thinker

Liberal Progressive: One who tolerates all beliefs and opinions except those with which he disagrees.

The definition of liberal has changed.

218 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:48:06pm

re: #212 SilentAlfa

sarc tags are for the weak, real man would rather look like an idiot than type a couple of slashes

I don't believe Jonathan Swift every employed a sarc tag. The people who thought he really wanted to eat Irish babies for dinner were the ones who looked like the idiots they were.

219 Irish Rose  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:48:10pm

re: #206 reine.de.tout

curmudgeon might be the word of choice.

I'll meet you halfway then, he's a cranky curmudgeon.

220 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:48:57pm

re: #216 freetoken

Because ...?

Maybe because he's an invertebrate?

221 McSpiff  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:49:07pm

re: #218 Cato the Elder

I don't believe Jonathan Swift every employed a sarc tag. The people who thought he really wanted to eat Irish babies for dinner were the ones who looked like the idiots they were.

Are you seriously comparing your writing to Jonathan Swift, or is this one of those times a sarc tag would have come in handy?

222 Decatur Deb  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:49:27pm

re: #218 Cato the Elder

I don't believe Jonathan Swift every employed a sarc tag. The people who thought he really wanted to eat Irish babies for dinner were the ones who looked like the idiots they were.

Yeah, but his karma sucked.

223 sattv4u2  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:49:28pm

re: #220 Cato the Elder

Maybe because he's an invertebrate?

Or an extrovertebrate!

224 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:50:07pm

re: #221 McSpiff

Are you seriously comparing your writing to Jonathan Swift, or is this one of those times a sarc tag would have come in handy?

That's for you to decide. In any case I wouldn't compare my writing to Swift, but to Swift's. If that indeed were what I was doing.

225 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:50:11pm

Evening scaley patrons of LGF. How's it hangin'?

226 Bob Dillon  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:50:21pm

re: #183 Cato the Elder

No, don't. Sarc tags are for wusses who don't trust their own writing.

There is great need for a sarcasm font.

227 Joanne  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:50:37pm

re: #197 talon_262

Sorry to be so rough on you, my sarcasm detector apparently wasn't working and I'm ready to punch out of work for a day off...

No worries at all. I should probably correct myself, it was snark - sort of. I've seen every one of those things on different sites. As I have read LGF for so long, I ass-u-me'd you all would get it with all of them being in one place like that. As someone noted above, yes, it could have been heartfelt by someone, and I should have known that. Which, in itself, is a very sad statement.

228 McSpiff  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:50:57pm

re: #224 Cato the Elder

That's for you to decide. In any case I wouldn't compare my writing to Swift, but to Swift's. If that indeed were what I was doing.

Heavy stuff

229 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:51:23pm

re: #226 Bobibutu

There is great need for a sarcasm font.

I discovered the unholy font of sarcasm whilst looking for the fountain of youth. And I'm not sharing.

230 Digital Display  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:51:23pm

re: #225 NJDhockeyfan

Evening scaley patrons of LGF. How's it hangin'?

It's all about you man...How are ya tonight..I'm watching a show about Google..Really cool

231 Racer X  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:51:39pm

American car brochures

Where's Avanti?

232 freetoken  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:51:57pm

re: #220 Cato the Elder

Maybe because he's an invertebrate?

And just what exactly do you have against 95% of all the animals on Earth?

233 steelerjoe  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:52:42pm

re: #190 SanFranciscoZionist

I think you're right about the building of grudges and techniques from Presidency to Presidency.

It's becoming more mainstreamed, is my fear. Yes, I heard some hair-raising crazy crap about Bush over the past two terms, but it was not coming from people on a major news network, or as well established as Limbaugh. And not from current officeholders, although God knows Cynthia McKinney is making up for lost time. Please note here that I don't mean political criticism, even crazy political criticism, but this sort of conspiracy-minded nuttiness. The Troofers didn't have these sorts of mainstreamed voices that I'm aware of.

Michael Moore comes to mind as the possible exception. I don't know much about his work, but although he obviously considered Bush a malicious and bad president, I don't recall these kinds of overt suggestions that there were secret, horrible plans afoot, etc., etc. Maybe there were. I have never seen a Michael Moore movie, or followed his work much.

Michael Moore and MSNBC since 2004 have been consistent bush bashers.
I won't say anything bad about Cynthia McKinney because she is still protesting the wars but now nobody is listening to her. Not even Olbermann since he stopped the nightly body count on countdown.

234 Joanne  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:52:49pm

re: #210 talon_262

It'll grow hair on your chest!

/or is it on your feet, like a Hobbit?

Just what I need. I'm a woman. Neither are terribly appealing (looking into the cost of waxing toes).

235 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:53:18pm

re: #218 Cato the Elder

I don't believe Jonathan Swift every employed a sarc tag. The people who thought he really wanted to eat Irish babies for dinner were the ones who looked like the idiots they were.

I don't think Jonathan Swift ever tried to carry on a conversation on the Internet, either. The problem is that there are people on the Internet who would think eating Irish babies--or more likely, Latino ones--was a spiffy idea. I've met the crazies. You've met the crazies. And, well, Lord, they are craaazeee.

236 Decatur Deb  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:53:27pm

re: #232 freetoken

And just what exactly do you have against 95% of all the animals on Earth?

Speciesist!!!1!! Git 'im.

237 reine.de.tout  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:53:31pm

re: #219 Irish Rose

I'll meet you halfway then, he's a cranky curmudgeon.

Alrighty then!
"Crank" by itself just seemed a bit pedestrian for our Cato.
Just my $.02

238 BruceKelly  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:53:56pm

re: #225 NJDhockeyfan

Evening scaley patrons of LGF. How's it hangin'?

Draggin' would be more appropriate. Thanks for the WMD links yesterday.

239 Achilles Tang  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:54:24pm

re: #199 Cato the Elder

People who misinterpret me are free to ask for guidance.

I repeat, sarc tags are for poor writers.

Leaving out sarc tags consistently does have the advantage that really stupid posts can always be relabeled sarcastic after the fact.

Is that why you do it?

240 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:54:54pm

re: #230 HoosierHoops

It's all about you man...How are ya tonight..I'm watching a show about Google..Really cool

NFL channel. They just ran an interview with Tony Romo.

And it's never about me.

241 steelerjoe  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:55:25pm

re: #216 freetoken


Michael Steele will set the part back a decade if he isn't pushed out of the RNC Chair soon.
Because ...?

Meant to say party? Purity tests. Isn't that what primaries are for?

242 reine.de.tout  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:55:32pm

There is the potential for sneaux predicted for my area tomorrow evening.
If any snow accumulates, everyone in town will turn into a 10-year-old for a few hours.

Keeping my fingers crossed . . .

243 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:56:22pm

re: #232 freetoken

And just what exactly do you have against 95% of all the animals on Earth?

I've been troubled to find, while subbing in biology class, that biology has changed since I was in high school. At least two of the phyla that I memorized when I was fifteen are no more. (The worms still exist, but they have been reorganized.) Adieu, coelenterata and aschelminthes, probably no one but I will miss you.

244 Achilles Tang  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:56:32pm

re: #242 reine.de.tout

There is the potential for sneaux predicted for my area tomorrow evening.
If any snow accumulates, everyone in town will turn into a 10-year-old for a few hours.

Keeping my fingers crossed . . .

Been watching South Park again, have we?

245 cliffster  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:56:52pm

re: #239 Naso Tang

Leaving out sarc tags consistently does have the advantage that really stupid posts can always be relabeled sarcastic after the fact.

Is that why you do it?

Intellectual pretension is a full-time scramble.

246 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:56:54pm

re: #238 BruceKelly

Draggin' would be more appropriate. Thanks for the WMD links yesterday.

Your welcome. I can find much more. Funny how the left ignores all those articles and go right to the 'Bush lied - people died' nonsense.

247 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:57:01pm

re: #233 steelerjoe

Michael Moore and MSNBC since 2004 have been consistent bush bashers.
I won't say anything bad about Cynthia McKinney because she is still protesting the wars but now nobody is listening to her. Not even Olbermann since he stopped the nightly body count on countdown.

True, but do you think they're really as over the top as, say, what Rush says up above? (Could be. I do not watch either.)

248 reine.de.tout  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:57:19pm

re: #244 Naso Tang

Been watching South Park again, have we?

I should have used a sarc tag, you think?

249 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:57:26pm

re: #234 JustJay

Just what I need. I'm a woman. Neither are terribly appealing (looking into the cost of waxing toes).

Hurts. The big toe especially. Advise against it.

250 Decatur Deb  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:57:29pm

re: #242 reine.de.tout

There is the potential for sneaux predicted for my area tomorrow evening.
If any snow accumulates, everyone in town will turn into a 10-year-old for a few hours.

Keeping my fingers crossed . . .

Never figured out where all the Flexible Flyers come from when it snows in our town--every 10 yrs.

251 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:57:49pm

re: #248 reine.de.tout

I should have used a sarc tag, you think?

Nah, you're fine Reine.

252 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:57:55pm

re: #232 freetoken

And just what exactly do you have against 95% of all the animals on Earth?

Nothing. I don't see them running the country or a major party as a good thing, though.

253 Killgore Trout  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:58:01pm

re: #242 reine.de.tout

There is the potential for sneaux predicted for my area tomorrow evening.
If any snow accumulates, everyone in town will turn into a 10-year-old for a few hours.

Keeping my fingers crossed . . .

Good luck. We're due for some snow here next week too. The first snow of the season never loses its novelty.

254 Achilles Tang  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:58:03pm

re: #248 reine.de.tout

I should have used a sarc tag, you think?

No, it was the accent.

255 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:58:55pm

re: #239 Naso Tang

Leaving out sarc tags consistently does have the advantage that really stupid posts can always be relabeled sarcastic after the fact.

Is that why you do it?

No, it's because I don't like sarc tags.

256 freetoken  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:59:45pm
257 Digital Display  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:59:50pm

re: #240 NJDhockeyfan

NFL channel. They just ran an interview with Tony Romo.

And it's never about me.

I can't get the NFL Channel here...But I did get free tickets to the Colts game Sunday.. Look for me...I'm wearing my blue Wig..Blue face and painting white and red paint around my lips like the Joker in the Dark Knight..
That has got to get me on National TV Sunday...I'm setting TIVO to catch the crazy guy on row 9 seat 2 on TV..
Should be fun

258 Racer X  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:59:54pm

United Breaks Guitars


Sweet Revenge

A musician named Dave Carroll recently had difficulty with United Airlines. United apparently damaged his treasured Taylor guitar ($3500) during a flight.

Dave spent over 9 months trying to get United to pay for damages caused by baggage handlers to his custom Taylor guitar. During his final exchange with the United Customer Relations Manager, he stated that he was left with no choice other than to create a music video for youtube exposing their lack of cooperation. The Manager responded::
"Good luck with that one, pal".


So he posted a retaliatory video on YouTube. The video has since received over 5.5 million hits. United Airlines contacted the musician and attempted settlement in exchange for pulling the video.

Naturally his response was: "Good luck with that one, pal".

Taylor Guitars sent the musician 2 new custom guitars in appreciation for the product recognition from the video that has lead to a sharp increase in orders.

259 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 6:59:55pm

re: #245 cliffster

Intellectual pretension is a full-time scramble.

Except for those who aren't even in the game.

260 reine.de.tout  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:00:21pm

re: #253 Killgore Trout

Good luck. We're due for some snow here next week too. The first snow of the season never loses its novelty.

It sneauxed here last year for the first time in 12 years, and we had a 3 inch accumulation for several hours! It was great.

So we actually have "first snow of the decade" rather than first snow of the season. It's why everybody turns into a 10 year old.

261 Achilles Tang  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:01:08pm

re: #255 Cato the Elder

No, it's because I don't like sarc tags.

No sense of humor. Curmudgeon it is. Bah humbug and Merry Christmas.

(To sarc or not to sarc, that is the question.)

262 Sheepdogess  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:01:12pm

re: #232 freetoken

I love animals, right next to my mashed potatoes.

263 cliffster  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:01:36pm

re: #258 Racer X

Hell fucking yeah. I hate United.

264 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:02:18pm

re: #236 Decatur Deb

Speciesist!!!1!! Git 'im.

I was recently called a presentist as well. Someone who discriminates in favor of the present to the detriment of the future.

I plead guilty.

265 cliffster  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:02:52pm

re: #259 Cato the Elder

Except for those who aren't even in the game.

Are you referring to me? You're correct - I don't feel I have anything to prove, thus cling to no pretension.

266 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:03:08pm

re: #260 reine.de.tout

It sneauxed here last year for the first time in 12 years, and we had a 3 inch accumulation for several hours! It was great.

So we actually have "first snow of the decade" rather than first snow of the season. It's why everybody turns into a 10 year old.

There was a snowfall in the San Francisco Bay Area in 1979. Everyone still remembers it. Except me, we were still living in Santa Barbara that year. When I was ten or so, my parents drove up into the mountains so I could see some snow. They both grew up in Southern California, so I have no idea why they considered this an important cultural experience.

267 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:03:54pm

re: #263 cliffster

Hell fucking yeah. I hate United.

I don't. I actually can't, because they're the only ones who offer the Economy Plus seating I need. At 6'4", I need extra legroom.

268 BruceKelly  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:03:56pm

re: #263 cliffster

Hell fucking yeah. I hate United.

I liked them in the '80's. But maybe that was because the planes were almost empty and they'd let me get up and get my own booze.

269 Decatur Deb  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:03:58pm

re: #264 Cato the Elder

I was recently called a presentist as well. Someone who discriminates in favor of the present to the detriment of the future.

I plead guilty.

Surely a pastist, if anything?

270 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:04:08pm

Did somebody say sarc font?
Backwards italic
[Link: www.glennmcanally.com...]

271 Irish Rose  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:04:38pm

Big fluffy flakes coming down...it's a winter wonderland outside, and the neighborhood is quiet. The Christmas lights are blanketed with white stuff. Time to bundle up for an evening stroll.

Later.

272 Charles Johnson  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:04:48pm

The big talking point tonight on the right wing is that Al Gore "abruptly canceled" his speech at the Copenhagen climate summit.

The desperation is palpable.

They're all ranting about how he's fleeing a sinking ship, like a rat. Climategate! Hah ... we KNEW it!

Al Gore cancels a speech, so that means 30 years of scientific evidence is invalid.

Anyone still wondering why I made such a public break with the right wing?

273 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:05:20pm

re: #257 HoosierHoops

I can't get the NFL Channel here...But I did get free tickets to the Colts game Sunday.. Look for me...I'm wearing my blue Wig..Blue face and painting white and red paint around my lips like the Joker in the Dark Knight..
That has got to get me on National TV Sunday...I'm setting TIVO to catch the crazy guy on row 9 seat 2 on TV..
Should be fun

I can't, Colts game is not available on my TV. If you make yourself stand out enough I might see you on Sportscenter.

274 Irish Rose  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:06:51pm

re: #272 Charles

Not me.

275 albusteve  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:07:05pm

/s...snark
there you go Cato...nobody will ever again misunderstand you

276 austin_blue  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:07:07pm

re: #166 steelerjoe

I don't want to get in a google search link war but there were just as many
conspiracy theories about Bush the past 8 years. Maybe the lefties learned well from the Clinton conspiracies in the 90's. But to say that what we are hearing from Rush, Beck and others is anything new or earth-shattering is laughable.

It's not so much teh crazy as the size of the audience and the influence of the talking head. Rush and Beck are, like it or not mainstream "Conservative" at this point, with a wide impact. The crazies on the left never had the committed media following that those two do.

277 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:07:09pm

re: #272 Charles

The big talking point tonight on the right wing is that Al Gore "abruptly canceled" his speech at the Copenhagen climate summit.

The desperation is palpable.

They're all ranting about how he's fleeing a sinking ship, like a rat. Climategate! Hah We KNEW it!

Al Gore cancels a speech, so that means 30 years of scientific evidence is invalid.

Anyone still wondering why I made such a public break with the right wing?

Is Al OK? Is he packing his bags and fleeing to Argentina?

//

278 cliffster  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:08:06pm

re: #267 Dark_Falcon

I don't. I actually can't, because they're the only ones who offer the Economy Plus seating I need. At 6'4", I need extra legroom.

Wow, 6'4", you're a big dude.

279 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:08:25pm

re: #272 Charles

The big talking point tonight on the right wing is that Al Gore "abruptly canceled" his speech at the Copenhagen climate summit.

The desperation is palpable.

They're all ranting about how he's fleeing a sinking ship, like a rat. Climategate! Hah We KNEW it!

Al Gore cancels a speech, so that means 30 years of scientific evidence is invalid.

Anyone still wondering why I made such a public break with the right wing?

The inmates really are in charge of the asylum now...good luck with that, GOP.

280 reine.de.tout  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:08:33pm

re: #270 Rightwingconspirator

Did somebody say sarc font?
Backwards italic
[Link: www.glennmcanally.com...]

cool!

281 Gus  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:08:54pm

re: #237 reine.de.tout

Alrighty then!
"Crank" by itself just seemed a bit pedestrian for our Cato.
Just my $.02

How about paradoxically pessimistic pedant with a tendency towards occasional forays of palaetiology and easily led to a state of pandiculation by others.

282 albusteve  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:09:14pm

re: #276 austin_blue

It's not so much teh crazy as the size of the audience and the influence of the talking head. Rush and Beck are, like it or not mainstream "Conservative" at this point, with a wide impact. The crazies on the left never had the committed media following that those two do.

that remains to be seen...

283 Gus  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:09:45pm

re: #272 Charles

The big talking point tonight on the right wing is that Al Gore "abruptly canceled" his speech at the Copenhagen climate summit.

The desperation is palpable.

They're all ranting about how he's fleeing a sinking ship, like a rat. Climategate! Hah We KNEW it!

Al Gore cancels a speech, so that means 30 years of scientific evidence is invalid.

Anyone still wondering why I made such a public break with the right wing?

I know who led the charge too. It was pretty obvious from an earlier comment we saw.

284 BruceKelly  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:10:07pm

re: #278 cliffster

Wow, 6'4", you're a big dude.

Look at the avatar!

Handsome too //

285 reine.de.tout  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:10:25pm

re: #264 Cato the Elder

I was recently called a presentist as well. Someone who discriminates in favor of the present to the detriment of the future.

I plead guilty.

How could one possibly know for absolute certain that what happens in the present will definitely be to the detriment of the future?

286 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:10:35pm

re: #272 Charles

The big talking point tonight on the right wing is that Al Gore "abruptly canceled" his speech at the Copenhagen climate summit.

The desperation is palpable.

They're all ranting about how he's fleeing a sinking ship, like a rat. Climategate! Hah ... we KNEW it!

Al Gore cancels a speech, so that means 30 years of scientific evidence is invalid.

Anyone still wondering why I made such a public break with the right wing?

I don't wonder. i even think Al Gore being gone is a good thing. He's been wrong on the issue often and he's too high profile. Getting him out will allow actual negotiations a better chance.

287 freetoken  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:11:00pm

re: #272 Charles

From a commenter on one of Malkin's latest climategate threads:


On December 3rd, 2009 at 6:45 pm, swede said:

The convenient lie continually perpetrated is that us lesser minds need to submit to the genius of science. Scientists will tell us what we need to believe as we are incapable of comprehending the data.

The NASA reference is kind of ironic. You don’t need to be a “rocket scientist” to understand average temperatures. You add em up and divide by the denominator and bingo. [That is false, btw] If the temperatures don’t rise with the carbon accumulation according to the computer models, AGW is debunked. The REAL inconvenient truth. [another falsehood...]

And now painfully inconvenient for the Goracle. You have to wonder if he knew he was perpetuating a fraud all along…or if he was actually dopey enough to buy into the dogma. I tend to think the latter. The former would make him some sort of evil genius, and he just never seemed to be sharpest tool in the shed. Either way, thank God this goof ball was not our president. He came tooo close.

Again, we see AGW-denial is about Gore-hate.

288 austin_blue  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:11:10pm

re: #184 Racer X

My wife has a new iPhone. That damn thing blows me away at what it can do. She can be out shopping and take a picture of the bar code on an item, and immediately see how much it costs at other stores.

Want to win the lottery?

There's an app for that.

//

289 reine.de.tout  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:11:28pm

re: #281 Gus 802

How about paradoxically pessimistic pedant with a tendency towards occasional forays of palaetiology and easily led to a state of pandiculation by others.

Whoa!
Wait a sec until I go look up those words . . .

290 Digital Display  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:11:49pm

re: #284 BruceKelly

Look at the avatar!

Handsome too //

Ever play Ball?

291 freetoken  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:11:59pm

Oh, and the point I made earlier about the urge to get even with scientists... That comment I copied from malkin's site is just one example.

292 BruceKelly  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:12:00pm

re: #284 BruceKelly

Look at the avatar!

Handsome too //

Oops, wrong avatar.

still handsome though//

293 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:12:56pm

re: #265 cliffster

Are you referring to me? You're correct - I don't feel I have anything to prove, thus cling to no pretension.

If you tried to cling to pretension, she would dump you like Palin dumped her job.

294 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:13:08pm

re: #257 HoosierHoops

I can't get the NFL Channel here...But I did get free tickets to the Colts game Sunday.. Look for me...I'm wearing my blue Wig..Blue face and painting white and red paint around my lips like the Joker in the Dark Knight..
That has got to get me on National TV Sunday...I'm setting TIVO to catch the crazy guy on row 9 seat 2 on TV..
Should be fun

Maybe sattv4u will watch for it & capture a still for you!

295 albusteve  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:13:42pm

re: #290 HoosierHoops

Ever play Ball?

I excel at ping pong...I'll kick your butt

296 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:14:05pm

Apropos of absolutely nothing but morbid curiosity, whatever happened to Salamantis?

297 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:14:28pm

re: #260 reine.de.tout

I'm hoping you get enough of that white stuff for a snowball fight!
And some sledding too!

298 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:14:31pm

re: #258 Racer X

United Breaks Guitars


[Video]
Sweet Revenge

A musician named Dave Carroll recently had difficulty with United Airlines. United apparently damaged his treasured Taylor guitar ($3500) during a flight.

Dave spent over 9 months trying to get United to pay for damages caused by baggage handlers to his custom Taylor guitar. During his final exchange with the United Customer Relations Manager, he stated that he was left with no choice other than to create a music video for youtube exposing their lack of cooperation. The Manager responded::
"Good luck with that one, pal".

So he posted a retaliatory video on YouTube. The video has since received over 5.5 million hits. United Airlines contacted the musician and attempted settlement in exchange for pulling the video.

Naturally his response was: "Good luck with that one, pal".

Taylor Guitars sent the musician 2 new custom guitars in appreciation for the product recognition from the video that has lead to a sharp increase in orders.

I love that song!

Air France broke my Gibson J-45 in 1970. Totally smashed the fretboard. Even though they paid to have the fretboard replaced, it never really sounded the same.

299 Gus  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:14:33pm

The gummiferous dentiologist™.

300 Charles Johnson  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:14:41pm

re: #287 freetoken

Absolutely bizarre. And there's nobody on the right wing -- nobody! -- even trying to get serious and think past the talking points.

301 Achilles Tang  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:14:58pm

re: #264 Cato the Elder

I was recently called a presentist as well. Someone who discriminates in favor of the present to the detriment of the future.

I love learning new words, particularly ones I'm fairly sure I haven't forgotten. Of course adding a novel (and I mean novel) meaning at the same time makes it even better.

302 reine.de.tout  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:15:03pm

re: #297 Floral Giraffe

I'm hoping you get enough of that white stuff for a snowball fight!
And some sledding too!

Thank you!
I do too.
Though I have no sled and so will have to be content with the snowball fight!

303 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:15:10pm

re: #296 Cato the Elder

Apropos of absolutely nothing but morbid curiosity, whatever happened to Salamantis?

Maybe the same thing that happened to Ludwig Van Quixote?

304 albusteve  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:15:48pm

re: #303 Alouette

Maybe the same thing that happened to Ludwig Van Quixote?

which is what exactly?...

305 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:15:49pm

re: #303 Alouette

Maybe the same thing that happened to Ludwig Van Quixote?

And what happened to him? Shamed out of the room?

306 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:15:50pm

re: #295 albusteve

I excel at ping pong...I'll kick your butt

Forrest, is that you?

///

307 webevintage  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:15:51pm

Well fuck, Rush has figured out our super skerit uber!ebil plan, what will we do now?

308 Achilles Tang  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:15:59pm

re: #281 Gus 802

How about paradoxically pessimistic pedant with a tendency towards occasional forays of palaetiology and easily led to a state of pandiculation by others.

Oh shit. Dictionary again.

309 cliffster  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:16:12pm

re: #292 BruceKelly

Oops, wrong avatar.

still handsome though//

I'm sure that both you and DF are fine-looking men. I'm not a particularly good judge, but there are plenty here at LGF that could give a good male perspective on that.

310 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:16:54pm

re: #278 cliffster

Wow, 6'4", you're a big dude.

I believe PepperFox is also 6'4". I feel short.

311 J.S.  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:16:55pm

re: #303 Alouette

I thought Sal got totally caught up with global warming skepticism, and would argue with LVQ (endlessly)...name calling would then ensue, etc.

312 Only The Lurker Knows  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:17:09pm

re: #181 Cato the Elder

I do believe you're actually serious.

Yes, I am. Did you not promise to upding the individual who could best answer your question?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

And did I not do so in your own words?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

"Seek help."

Why? For taking up and meeting your challenge?

"I'll upding you as I see your stuff, but I won't scan every thread to find if you've posted there. And I'm not actually going to count to 100. In that sense, it was a joke."

Then anything you post from this point on is suspect.
You are a LIAR

"If your responses have been anonther elaborate joke, I apologize."

No but yours has.

313 albusteve  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:17:11pm

re: #306 talon_262

Forrest, is that you?

///

I can hold my highball in one hand and slam with the other...it follows that I rein in shuffleboard

314 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:17:38pm

Speaking of science, when I was in Nashville last weekend my uncle gave me a rock he took off his old farm in Cottontown, Tn. It has seashell fossils in the rock. When I was a kid remember that hill covered in these fossils. All these years later I still can't figure out how seashells ended up in the middle of Tennessee.

315 Achilles Tang  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:17:39pm

re: #303 Alouette

Maybe the same thing that happened to Ludwig Van Quixote?

Realized the posts were starting to repeat themselves?

(just kidding guys, if you're out there. Come home please)

316 Gus  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:18:07pm

re: #308 Naso Tang

Oh shit. Dictionary again.

I blame Bush Obama Gore Cato. ;)

317 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:18:17pm

re: #293 Cato the Elder

If you tried to cling to pretension, she would dump you like Palin dumped her job.

His humble virtues would shine through the pretension, and it would evaporate like, you know, vapor or something.

318 BruceKelly  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:18:22pm

re: #309 cliffster

I'm sure that both you and DF are fine-looking men. I'm not a particularly good judge, but there are plenty here at LGF that could give a good male perspective on that.

Are you saying "soap on a rope?"

319 albusteve  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:18:24pm

re: #309 cliffster

I'm sure that both you and DF are fine-looking men. I'm not a particularly good judge, but there are plenty here at LGF that could give a good male perspective on that.

I am easily the most beautiful man posting at LGF...call my office for a glossy

320 freetoken  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:18:32pm

re: #300 Charles

AGW science and scientists are becoming the target for anger that is being redirected from other topics, IMO.

Very human thing to do... we do it all the time to things and people around us.

Let's face it, climatology is a bit of an arcane corner in the large applied-physics room of interesting but boggling complex topics. Certainly all that anger can't be from having to take physics class in 12th grade.

321 reine.de.tout  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:18:40pm

re: #287 freetoken

From a commenter on one of Malkin's latest climategate threads:

Again, we see AGW-denial is about Gore-hate.

It's Gore-hate and also just an automatic denial and dismissal of anything that the left says is a problem. And in doing that, they miss the issue.

The real issue isn't the problem, which I'm convinced exists. The real issue is what is to be done? If conservatives don't open their eyes about this, the solutions are going to be driven from the left, and then they'll be hollering about all the communist ideas being forced on us.

What the right-wing needs to do is address the problem of global warming head on, and develop potential solutions from the conservative perspective. I just don't see it happening.

322 Achilles Tang  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:18:59pm

re: #314 NJDhockeyfan

Speaking of science, when I was in Nashville last weekend my uncle gave me a rock he took off his old farm in Cottontown, Tn. It has seashell fossils in the rock. When I was a kid remember that hill covered in these fossils. All these years later I still can't figure out how seashells ended up in the middle of Tennessee.

Are you doing an appendix of sarc usage examples?

323 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:19:23pm

re: #296 Cato the Elder

Apropos of absolutely nothing but morbid curiosity, whatever happened to Salamantis?

He hasn't come back since his last blow-out with Ludwig. I wish I knew how to contact him. I miss him, and unlike The Banned, he's done nothing to blot his copybook.

Come back, Sal! We miss you!

324 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:19:24pm

re: #311 J.S.

I thought Sal got totally caught up with global warming skepticism, and would argue with LVQ (endlessly)...name calling would then ensue, etc.

I haven't seen LVQ for a while. Did I miss a flounce?

325 reine.de.tout  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:19:42pm

re: #308 Naso Tang

Oh shit. Dictionary again.

dictionary.com is your friend.

326 austin_blue  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:19:46pm

re: #272 Charles

The big talking point tonight on the right wing is that Al Gore "abruptly canceled" his speech at the Copenhagen climate summit.

The desperation is palpable.

They're all ranting about how he's fleeing a sinking ship, like a rat. Climategate! Hah ... we KNEW it!

Al Gore cancels a speech, so that means 30 years of scientific evidence is invalid.

Anyone still wondering why I made such a public break with the right wing?

I wonder when they did the original hack into the mail server? They apparently downloaded 13 years worth of e-mails (first cherry picked postings were from 1996). I t had to take a looong time to go through that much dross to find their little nuggets. Those who say that since they referenced e-mails as recently as November 12 the break in was recent don't understand that once you have the worm you can update your dataset anytime you want.

No doubt that this little bomb has been planned for the climate conference for quite a while.

327 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:20:12pm

re: #302 reine.de.tout

A sheet of cardboard woould do for a sled, in a pinch!
It's just a LOT harder to stop...
(Wear a helmet, please, we need you!)

328 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:20:38pm

re: #312 Bubblehead II

No but yours has.

And here I thought Cliffster was the most ridiculous person logged in tonight.

329 Digital Display  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:20:52pm

re: #295 albusteve

I excel at ping pong...I'll kick your butt

I have no doubt in the world you could...

330 albusteve  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:20:59pm

re: #321 reine.de.tout

It's Gore-hate and also just an automatic denial and dismissal of anything that the left says is a problem. And in doing that, they miss the issue.

The real issue isn't the problem, which I'm convinced exists. The real issue is what is to be done? If conservatives don't open their eyes about this, the solutions are going to be driven from the left, and then they'll be hollering about all the communist ideas being forced on us.

What the right-wing needs to do is address the problem of global warming head on, and develop potential solutions from the conservative perspective. I just don't see it happening.


shouldn't the left be doing that as well?...we all need to get plugged into reality and shore up our economy first...global warming is an afterthought in comparison

331 freetoken  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:21:16pm

re: #314 NJDhockeyfan

Are they from the Carboniferous? During that time, much of NA was either under a shallow sea, or was a giant swamp:

[Link: www.geog.nau.edu...]

332 J.S.  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:21:23pm

re: #324 NJDhockeyfan

I don't think he flounced, but he just hasn't posted anything for quite some time...(maybe too busy with other matters?)

333 austin_blue  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:21:36pm

re: #282 albusteve

that remains to be seen...

Why do you say that? The Left is suddenly going to come up with mind control rays?

334 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:21:50pm

re: #322 Naso Tang

Are you doing an appendix of sarc usage examples?

No, I have the rock. It's sitting on my fish tank right now.

335 reine.de.tout  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:21:54pm

re: #266 SanFranciscoZionist

There was a snowfall in the San Francisco Bay Area in 1979. Everyone still remembers it. Except me, we were still living in Santa Barbara that year. When I was ten or so, my parents drove up into the mountains so I could see some snow. They both grew up in Southern California, so I have no idea why they considered this an important cultural experience.

Because snow is awesome.
and fun.

336 cliffster  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:22:03pm

re: #296 Cato the Elder

Apropos of absolutely nothing but morbid curiosity, whatever happened to Salamantis?

I miss Salamantis, who was a pretentious prick not unlike yourself. He had some redeeming characteristics though.

337 Decatur Deb  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:22:13pm

re: #320 freetoken

(snip) Certainly all that anger can't be from having to take physics class in 12th grade.

It's not about the science. It's about the need to generate doubt and confusion in the electorate.

338 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:22:39pm

re: #296 Cato the Elder

re: #303 Alouette

Life got in the way of their LGF time? Self imposed rest periods?
Don't know. Hope they are well & will return in the future!

339 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:22:51pm

re: #324 NJDhockeyfan

I haven't seen LVQ for a while. Did I miss a flounce?

Don't think so, we but we had a serious knock-down drag-out one night about holding the KSM trial in New Yawk, and Ludwig was deeply upset, and made many people very angry. Ain't seen him much since.

I have his e-mail, I should shoot a message over.

340 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:22:58pm

re: #312 Bubblehead II

And, in fact, you didn't really answer the question, because the question was not answerable. I was just being kind.

See where that gets me.

341 Joanne  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:23:28pm

re: #324 NJDhockeyfan

I haven't seen LVQ for a while. Did I miss a flounce?

I've been online for longer than I care to admit, but I've never seen the word flounce anywhere else. Do you know its origin?

342 Decatur Deb  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:23:30pm

re: #327 Floral Giraffe

A sheet of cardboard woould do for a sled, in a pinch!
It's just a LOT harder to stop...
(Wear a helmet, please, we need you!)

The hood from a 1950 DeSoto works, too.

343 darthstar  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:23:33pm

re: #7 MandyManners

Who's said he's a leader of anything?

Every single congressman, Senator and Michael Steele himself who apologize whenever they say something less than flattering about Rush. If these people had the guts to not care what Rush said about them, Rush would lose his effectiveness.

345 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:24:00pm

re: #324 NJDhockeyfan

I haven't seen LVQ for a while. Did I miss a flounce?

No, neither of them flounced. They aren't posting right now, but at last check their accounts had not been blocked.

346 albusteve  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:24:08pm

re: #333 austin_blue

Why do you say that? The Left is suddenly going to come up with mind control rays?

it's not impressive with me to predict the political possibilities in these times...BO was elected, so all bets are off...AmIdol politics is a finicky bitch

347 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:24:08pm

re: #281 Gus 802

How about paradoxically pessimistic pedant with a tendency towards occasional forays of palaetiology and easily led to a state of pandiculation by others.

I have always disapproved of public pandiculation. Good thing it's the internet.

348 McSpiff  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:24:20pm

re: #339 SanFranciscoZionist

Don't think so, we but we had a serious knock-down drag-out one night about holding the KSM trial in New Yawk, and Ludwig was deeply upset, and made many people very angry. Ain't seen him much since.

I have his e-mail, I should shoot a message over.

That was a bad night...

349 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:24:41pm

re: #339 SanFranciscoZionist

Don't think so, we but we had a serious knock-down drag-out one night about holding the KSM trial in New Yawk, and Ludwig was deeply upset, and made many people very angry. Ain't seen him much since.

I have his e-mail, I should shoot a message over.

I remember that thread. I think there was a milder repeat the following day. That was the most heated thread I can remember since I've been here.

350 Gus  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:24:45pm

re: #347 Cato the Elder

I have always disapproved of public pandiculation. Good thing it's the internet.

It's contagious.

351 J.S.  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:25:08pm

re: #348 McSpiff

Although there was the odd, amusing moment...

352 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:25:16pm

re: #348 McSpiff

That was a bad night...

Yeah. Maybe we shouldn't talk about it in front of the hatchlings.

353 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:25:17pm

re: #350 Gus 802

It's contagious.

Even between humans and dogs, according to a recent study.

354 Achilles Tang  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:25:40pm

re: #336 cliffster

I miss Salamantis, who was a pretentious prick not unlike yourself. He had some redeeming characteristics though.

Yeah, we need at least one genuine Pagan here to round out the image of universal tolerance that LGF is known for.

355 albusteve  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:25:45pm

re: #339 SanFranciscoZionist

Don't think so, we but we had a serious knock-down drag-out one night about holding the KSM trial in New Yawk, and Ludwig was deeply upset, and made many people very angry. Ain't seen him much since.

I have his e-mail, I should shoot a message over.

I'd be ashamed if I'd posted what he did, he went over the top that night...jus sayin

356 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:26:04pm

re: #336 cliffster

I miss Salamantis, who was a pretentious prick not unlike yourself. He had some redeeming characteristics though.

So do you, I'm sure.

One day maybe you'll display them.

357 Only The Lurker Knows  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:26:24pm

re: #328 Cato the Elder

Well I will let the Lizard nation make its own mind up on this matter. The evidence is there. But in mine, you are a lieing piece of shit who deserves nothing futher from this point on than a *GAZE*

358 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:26:30pm

re: #305 Cato the Elder

And what happened to him? Shamed out of the room?

A stealth flounce.

359 Gus  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:26:32pm

re: #353 Cato the Elder

Even between humans and dogs, according to a recent study.

I seem to remember having experienced that first hand.

"Please do not pandiculate in front of the dog!"

360 McSpiff  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:26:37pm

re: #351 J.S.

Although there was the odd, amusing moment...

I know I had a couple of screaming matches that night with people who agreed with me. It was fast and furious.

361 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:27:39pm

re: #331 freetoken

Are they from the Carboniferous? During that time, much of NA was either under a shallow sea, or was a giant swamp:

[Link: www.geog.nau.edu...]

I wouldn't know what a seashell from the Carboniferous period would look like. If I posted a picture of it on here would you know?

362 austin_blue  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:28:21pm

re: #321 reine.de.tout

It's Gore-hate and also just an automatic denial and dismissal of anything that the left says is a problem. And in doing that, they miss the issue.

The real issue isn't the problem, which I'm convinced exists. The real issue is what is to be done? If conservatives don't open their eyes about this, the solutions are going to be driven from the left, and then they'll be hollering about all the communist ideas being forced on us.

What the right-wing needs to do is address the problem of global warming head on, and develop potential solutions from the conservative perspective. I just don't see it happening.

Can't address it if they acknowledge it. There's the rub. Right now to many on the Right it is "The biggest hoax ever foisted on the American people". That's a losing position in the long run, but it gives profits to those who pay to have that position supported by politicians and "scientists". AKA whores.

363 Joanne  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:29:05pm

re: #343 darthstar

Every single congressman, Senator and Michael Steele himself who apologize whenever they say something less than flattering about Rush. If these people had the guts to not care what Rush said about them, Rush would lose his effectiveness.

That's the problem with having such a big microphone. No one has the 'nads to deal with a very vocal Rush, a person who would excoriate anyone daring to reduce his own income influence.

364 reine.de.tout  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:29:37pm

re: #359 Gus 802

I seem to remember having experienced that first hand.

"Please do not pandiculate in front of the dog!"

Am I pandiculated when I do yoga?

365 Charles Johnson  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:29:38pm

By the way, I just learned that there's a deliberate effort going on to post links in the Linkviewer and spinoff links, specifically to stick a thumb in my eye, by people who hate me.

Which is always nice to know, because I'm going to start blocking anyone who seems to be doing that.

It's the kind of tactic used by people who are mentally ill, extremely vindictive, and soon to be banned from LGF.

366 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:29:48pm

re: #354 Naso Tang

Yeah, we need at least one genuine Pagan here to round out the image of universal tolerance that LGF is known for.

We still don't have any Muslims that I know about. We had one for a minute, but he wandered off. Do we have any Buddhists in the room? Hindus? Sikhs? Anyone? Bueller?

367 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:30:13pm

re: #341 JustJay
Observe. I wish I could show you one from here but they are DELETED fast.
[Link: www.encyclopediadramatica.com...]

368 cliffster  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:30:45pm

I'm guessing Sal decided that the current trend of topics was irritating enough not to attend, but rather than flounce off narcissistic-drama-queen-style, he just quit typing [Link: www.littlegreenfootballs.com...] into his browser.

369 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:30:54pm

re: #355 albusteve

I'd be ashamed if I'd posted what he did, he went over the top that night...jus sayin

He was mad as hell, and said some unfortunate things, but I would argue that he had plenty of help that night in the hackle-raising category, both sides of the aisle.

370 Gus  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:31:02pm

re: #364 reine.de.tout

Am I pandiculated when I do yoga?

Maybe if you're yawning at the same time.

371 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:32:00pm

re: #358 Alouette

A stealth flounce.

No, Ceasing to post is not a flounce. I've never flounced from my account at Michelle Malkin's website, but I have no intention of ever posting there again (I haven't logged in in over a year). Still, I think flouncing is a classless action. Simply not posting on a site is a better idea, IMO.

372 austin_blue  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:32:14pm

re: #346 albusteve

it's not impressive with me to predict the political possibilities in these times...BO was elected, so all bets are off...AmIdol politics is a finicky bitch

Ah. That explains why he was elected. American Idol. Not the complete cock-up that left the economy and foreign policy in smoldering ruins in October 2008. Glad you cleared that up. I guess all those other Dems elected a year ago were elected for the same reason.

Got it, you clever boots.

373 freetoken  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:32:23pm

re: #361 NJDhockeyfan

I wouldn't know what a seashell from the Carboniferous period would look like. If I posted a picture of it on here would you know?

Thanos might, since he collects some fossils from that period from Kansas.

374 albusteve  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:32:44pm

re: #369 SanFranciscoZionist

He was mad as hell, and said some unfortunate things, but I would argue that he had plenty of help that night in the hackle-raising category, both sides of the aisle.

yes, he was liberally updinged for his spew

375 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:32:52pm

re: #365 Charles

By the way, I just learned that there's a deliberate effort going on to post links in the Linkviewer and spinoff links, specifically to stick a thumb in my eye, by people who hate me.

Which is always nice to know, because I'm going to start blocking anyone who seems to be doing that.

It's the kind of tactic used by people who are mentally ill, extremely vindictive, and soon to be banned from LGF.

Should we called that "link-flouncing"?

376 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:33:05pm

re: #369 SanFranciscoZionist

That was truly an argument that got entirely out of hand. I hope to not ever see that here again.
New word for blogdom
Aghastness.

377 austin_blue  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:33:34pm

re: #362 austin_blue

Can't address it if they don'tacknowledge it. There's the rub. Right now to many on the Right it is "The biggest hoax ever foisted on the American people". That's a losing position in the long run, but it gives profits to those who pay to have that position supported by politicians and "scientists". AKA whores.

PIMF

378 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:33:35pm

re: #368 cliffster

I'm guessing Sal decided that the current trend of topics was irritating enough not to attend, but rather than flounce off narcissistic-drama-queen-style, he just quit typing [Link:

379 reine.de.tout  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:33:37pm

re: #370 Gus 802

Maybe if you're yawning at the same time.

I didn't think yawning was an absolute requirement, just a common side-tactic.
At any rate, I'm very happy to have a new word. My scrabble buddies will be sooo jealous.

380 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:33:43pm

re: #373 freetoken

Thanos might, since he collects some fossils from that period from Kansas.

Well I'll get the camera and see if I can get a good picture revealing the cool fossils.

:o)

381 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:34:20pm

re: #375 Dark_Falcon

Should we called that "link-flouncing"?

Louncing?

382 albusteve  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:34:22pm

re: #372 austin_blue

Ah. That explains why he was elected. American Idol. Not the complete cock-up that left the economy and foreign policy in smoldering ruins in October 2008. Glad you cleared that up. I guess all those other Dems elected a year ago were elected for the same reason.

Got it, you clever boots.

yep...all Bush's fault then...so what's the excuse for the govt failures beyond that?...poor leadership maybe?

383 reine.de.tout  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:34:41pm

re: #376 Rightwingconspirator

That was truly an argument that got entirely out of hand. I hope to not ever see that here again.
New word for blogdom
Aghastness.

That was my take, as well.

384 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:34:56pm

re: #369 SanFranciscoZionist

He was mad as hell, and said some unfortunate things, but I would argue that he had plenty of help that night in the hackle-raising category, both sides of the aisle.

True. Sadly, when you put people from opposite side of the political spectrum into the same forum, things will get ugly at times. Nothing to be done about that ultimately.

385 albusteve  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:35:54pm

re: #384 Dark_Falcon

True. Sadly, when you put people from opposite side of the political spectrum into the same forum, things will get ugly at times. Nothing to be done about that ultimately.

a small thing...I've seen far worse here at LGF...let's move on shall we?

386 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:36:45pm

re: #371 Dark_Falcon

No, Ceasing to post is not a flounce. I've never flounced from my account at Michelle Malkin's website, but I have no intention of ever posting there again (I haven't logged in in over a year). Still, I think flouncing is a classless action. Simply not posting on a site is a better idea, IMO.

I stopped posting at Free Republic last year after the election. I didn't post a dramatic "Opus" (which is what FReepers call a flounce) but I just didn't want to hang out there any more. I did go back a couple of times to pimp my blog but then stopped that too.

387 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:36:47pm

re: #385 albusteve

a small thing...I've seen far worse here at LGF...let's move on shall we?

Yes, lets.

388 Gus  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:37:07pm

re: #379 reine.de.tout

I didn't think yawning was an absolute requirement, just a common side-tactic.
At any rate, I'm very happy to have a new word. My scrabble buddies will be sooo jealous.

One word a day is the way it used to be done. Unless of course you have a photographic memory. Then one has to use the word daily.

389 Decatur Deb  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:37:11pm

re: #384 Dark_Falcon

True. Sadly, when you put people from opposite side of the political spectrum into the same forum, things will get ugly at times. Nothing to be done about that ultimately.

It helps if you assume Sister Mary Claver is lurking the blog.

390 austin_blue  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:38:13pm

re: #382 albusteve

yep...all Bush's fault then...so what's the excuse for the govt failures beyond that?...poor leadership maybe?

Ten months in office vs. eight years and inheriting a steaming pile of poo.

391 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:38:17pm

re: #371 Dark_Falcon

No, Ceasing to post is not a flounce. I've never flounced from my account at Michelle Malkin's website, but I have no intention of ever posting there again (I haven't logged in in over a year). Still, I think flouncing is a classless action. Simply not posting on a site is a better idea, IMO.

Because it's the adult thing to just no longer go to a website with which you disagree, as opposed to juvenile flouncing.

/f**k flouncers...

392 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:38:44pm

re: #367 Rightwingconspirator

Observe. I wish I could show you one from here but they are DELETED fast.
[Link: www.encyclopediadramatica.com...]

Yes, I realize there are different opinions in a community this size but I'll let the comments of a few posters color my whole perception of this place. So I'm leaving forever. Forever ever? And ever ever? Yes. Although I will still answer all the comments people leave me and I'll reappear if my name is mentioned. But after that, I'm TOTALLY gone.

Heh.

393 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:39:03pm

re: #365 Charles

By the way, I just learned that there's a deliberate effort going on to post links in the Linkviewer and spinoff links, specifically to stick a thumb in my eye, by people who hate me.

Which is always nice to know, because I'm going to start blocking anyone who seems to be doing that.

It's the kind of tactic used by people who are mentally ill, extremely vindictive, and soon to be banned from LGF.

Book 'em, Charles-O...

///

394 cliffster  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:39:37pm

re: #390 austin_blue

Ten months in office vs. eight years and inheriting a steaming pile of poo.

2006. That's when democrats took over. I remember life being pretty good in 2006. Not long after that, things seemed to take a turn for the worse.

395 Joanne  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:40:00pm

re: #367 Rightwingconspirator

Thanks, kindly! I'm more of a simple FU kinda gal, myself. :-)

396 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:40:21pm

This kind of commentary can be found on both sides of the political arena: using terrible examples of extremist historical figures/leaders of the past to demonize ones in the present (e.g. comparing Israel to the Third Reich). Equating our President to Mao and Stalin is irrational. It also has the negative effect of delegitimizing the actual horrors perpetuated by Mao & Stalin. Simply put, it's historically inaccurate and the rhetoric is poison.

397 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:41:51pm

re: #365 Charles

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
Do these people have no shame?
Or a life?

398 austin_blue  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:42:03pm

re: #394 cliffster

2006. That's when democrats took over. I remember life being pretty good in 2006. Not long after that, things seemed to take a turn for the worse.

Bush started using the veto in 2007 and he was still the President. Hard to blame Obama for anything prior to January '09. But you and others will try, eh?

399 Stuart Leviton  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:42:12pm

Before the election hadn't there been a rumor that Obama killed his grandmother? Does this new calumny resonate because of the prior incident?

400 reine.de.tout  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:42:13pm

re: #397 Floral Giraffe

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
Do these people have no shame?
Or a life?

No.

401 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:42:15pm

re: #381 NJDhockeyfan

Louncing?

Couldn't the abbreviation for "link flouncers" be louses?

/hey, it fits the bill...

402 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:42:56pm

re: #397 Floral Giraffe

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
Do these people have no shame?
Or a life?

None, nada, zip, zero...

403 albusteve  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:43:28pm

re: #390 austin_blue

Ten months in office vs. eight years and inheriting a steaming pile of poo.

the feds could have immediately injected more money into the economy via tax cuts to bolster spending, hiring and expantion...not their agenda tho...we are not that stupid here to believe BOs TARP bailouts can be successful...the feds have no money and cannot create jobs...the economy belongs to the people that work and produce...it's hardly complicated and has nothing to do with Bush anymore...for every dollar the republicans spent, to the ire of the donks, they spent four times more...gee whiz?...why are people upset?

404 cliffster  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:44:04pm

re: #398 austin_blue

Bush started using the veto in 2007 and he was still the President. Hard to blame Obama for anything prior to January '09. But you and others will try, eh?

Six month lead time is a good rule of thumb. And no, I don't blame Obama for the current crises, that's on his Democrat buddies in Congress. But, the trillions of dollars we're now spending that we don't have - that's Obama.

405 political lunatic  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:44:14pm

How do all of these right- wing crazies still have jobs when they are wrong 100% of the time?

406 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:44:15pm

re: #399 Stuart Leviton

Uh, what?

407 albusteve  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:44:57pm

re: #394 cliffster

2006. That's when democrats took over. I remember life being pretty good in 2006. Not long after that, things seemed to take a turn for the worse.

indeed...let's ignore history and reality, not to mention those historic one digit approval numbers for Pelosie and her mob

408 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:45:16pm

re: #401 talon_262

That's the one!

409 bosforus  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:46:03pm
Rush Limbaugh: Health Care is a Leftist Plot to Kill Off the Elderly

...I expect the Limbaugh apologists to say he’s just joking; that seems to be the standard excuse for any hateful, deranged thing Limbaugh says.


MO for all talk radio hosts.

410 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:46:08pm

Somebody slept through their History of China class in college... I'm looking at you, Rush.

Oh wait.

411 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:46:15pm

re: #396 eclectic infidel

I amuze myself. I wrote about the comparison of leaders in the past to ones in the present, and instead of giving an example of individuals, I compared two states. Go figure.

412 cliffster  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:46:45pm

re: #405 political lunatic

How do all of these right- wing crazies still have jobs when they are wrong 100% of the time?

Ask Barney Frank.

413 austin_blue  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:48:20pm

re: #403 albusteve

the feds could have immediately injected more money into the economy via tax cuts to bolster spending, hiring and expantion...not their agenda tho...we are not that stupid here to believe BOs TARP bailouts can be successful...the feds have no money and cannot create jobs...the economy belongs to the people that work and produce...it's hardly complicated and has nothing to do with Bush anymore...for every dollar the republicans spent, to the ire of the donks, they spent four times more...gee whiz?...why are people upset?

TARP was Bush.

414 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:48:51pm

re: #405 political lunatic

How do all of these right- wing crazies still have jobs when they are wrong 100% of the time?

'cause it's all about feelings now. Expressing the truth is much less important than tapping into that primal rage - and exploiting it.

415 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:49:03pm

re: #405 political lunatic

How do all of these right- wing crazies still have jobs when they are wrong 100% of the time?

Because their audiences are usually as wrong as they are, but like to hear that their secret fears are true from The Famous Guy on The Radio.

If people need secret conspiracies to hold their focus, maybe they should take a good look at how their wives respond to sales at the department stores... Programmed behavior and cultural changes transmitted through television aren't just about voting and health care.

416 Joanne  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:49:41pm

re: #410 Pawn of the Oppressor

Somebody slept through their History of China class in college... I'm looking at you, Rush.

Oh wait.

From a guy who said Palin's book was the best political POLICY book he's ever read. If he read it, I'd venture to say it was the only book he's ever read.

417 Mich-again  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:50:01pm

re: #413 austin_blue

TARP was Bush.

Well there is appropriating and then there is spending.

418 Achilles Tang  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:50:20pm

re: #364 reine.de.tout

Am I pandiculated when I do yoga?

If you manage to put your foot in your mouth, probably.

419 albusteve  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:51:04pm

re: #413 austin_blue

TARP was Bush.

right..I'm talking the recovery act or whatever you call it...780b vote buying spree...it has not worked, at all

420 cliffster  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:51:41pm

Bush! It's all Bush!

421 bosforus  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:52:28pm

Just a reminder - tomorrow at 10am MST the 2010 World Cup drawing will take place in Cape Town! I'm getting pretty giddy about this fact.

422 BruceKelly  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:52:41pm

re: #409 bosforus

I really enjoyed the Flight of the Conchords link in your profile.

423 albusteve  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:53:21pm

re: #421 bosforus

Just a reminder - tomorrow at 10am MST the 2010 World Cup drawing will take place in Cape Town! I'm getting pretty giddy about this fact.

pencils?, magic markers?

424 bosforus  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:53:58pm

re: #422 BruceKelly

I really enjoyed the Flight of the Conchords link in your profile.

Ha ha, good. Those guys are hilarious. I could spend a long time listening to their songs... which is actually what I'm doing right now.

425 Mich-again  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:54:08pm

The Government can help create jobs. By helping businesses be more profitable. Good luck with that.

426 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:54:10pm

re: #77 Racer X

I remember listening to Rush when Clinton was elected. He became totally obnoxious and annoying. Like now.

He also pimped A. Jones sourced conspiracy theories. Line now.

427 bosforus  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:54:35pm

re: #423 albusteve

pencils?, magic markers?

Crayons. It's color coded with numbers just for you!

428 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:54:46pm

re: #410 Pawn of the Oppressor

Somebody slept through their History of China class in college... I'm looking at you, Rush.

Don't get all college elitist on me.

I know some perfectly wonderful morons who went to college too.

429 albusteve  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:54:52pm

people will learn to live with 7% unemployment...so be it...

430 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:55:01pm

re: #390 austin_blue

Ten months in office vs. eight years and inheriting a steaming pile of poo.

At what point does Obama lose the use of the "I inherited it from W!" card?

Personaly, I think that time is long past and that any miscues or blunders on the White House's part is pretty much Obama's to own at this point (as well as any triumphs).

431 austin_blue  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:55:31pm

re: #417 Mich-again

Well there is appropriating and then there is spending.

Oh, for pity's sake. This spinning of history is just silly. TARP = Bush. Stimulus = Obama.

How is it working? There are quibbles, but there is this, reported by Bloomerg, generally non-partisan:

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

432 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:55:33pm

re: #426 Slumbering Behemoth

Like now. PIMF

433 albusteve  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:55:52pm

re: #427 bosforus

Crayons. It's color coded with numbers just for you!

I'm Picasso!

434 albusteve  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:56:55pm

re: #431 austin_blue

Oh, for pity's sake. This spinning of history is just silly. TARP = Bush. Stimulus = Obama.

How is it working? There are quibbles, but there is this, reported by Bloomerg, generally non-partisan:

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

quibble 10%+ unemployment

435 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:57:11pm

re: #399 Stuart Leviton

Before the election hadn't there been a rumor that Obama killed his grandmother? Does this new calumny resonate because of the prior incident?

The prior incident being a rumor that the President Elect of the United States of America killed his grandmother?

//Why do I feel as though I'm living on an episode of Rome?

436 political lunatic  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:57:28pm

re: #414 eclectic infidel

I feel like this is part of class warfare. The rich stroke the idiot's fears with guys like Limbaugh by telling them what they want to hear and to get them to be activists against their own best interests. Meanwhile, Wall Street continues to pillage those same idiots with taxpayer-funded bailouts every time they eff up the economy, because they're "too big to fail". And the cycle starts again...

437 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:58:03pm

OT: 6 Hilarious Attempts at Brainwashing Kids With Comic Books

See #4 (Fox News-related)

And #2 is like a Chick tract drawn by a 6th grader.

438 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:58:18pm

re: #435 SanFranciscoZionist

The prior incident being a rumor that the President Elect of the United States of America killed his grandmother?

//Why do I feel as though I'm living on an episode of Rome?

Because Cato is still here. ;)

439 albusteve  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:59:10pm

re: #430 talon_262

At what point does Obama lose the use of the "I inherited it from W!" card?

Personaly, I think that time is long past and that any miscues or blunders on the White House's part is pretty much Obama's to own at this point (as well as any triumphs).

no guts, no glory...BO is a blamer and an apologist, required for community organization...but now reality has hit him full in the face with Afghanistan...so what's he do?...what a whimp

440 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:59:16pm

re: #434 albusteve

I think the 10%+ number is low. It doesn't include people who are ineligible for unemployment, having been out of work for too long.

441 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 7:59:47pm

re: #430 talon_262

At what point does Obama lose the use of the "I inherited it from W!" card?

Personaly, I think that time is long past and that any miscues or blunders on the White House's part is pretty much Obama's to own at this point (as well as any triumphs).

President Truman had a sign on his desk that read "The Buck Stops Here".
President Obama has a sign on his desk that reads "It's George Bush's Fault".

442 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:00:51pm

re: #426 Slumbering Behemoth

He also pimped A. Jones sourced conspiracy theories. Line now.

On John Gibson's radio show today, he busted on poor ole' Alex.

John's on Fox News Radio, BTW.

Oh! And today John played a clip of Comedian Jim Norton tearing Jesse Venture to fuckin' pieces... right up in his face. Jim Norton is a doughy white guy (hmmm... I know one of those, can't place from where, tho)...

Was on Opie and Anthony. Jim was ruthless. Jesse got in his face and Norton didn't back down a bit!

Some audio... flippin' fantastic!

443 albusteve  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:01:36pm

re: #440 Floral Giraffe

I think the 10%+ number is low. It doesn't include people who are ineligible for unemployment, having been out of work for too long.

it's a number the admin believes the public will swallow...sad how the voters are manipulated...is there any wonder that people like Palin are popular?...what a fucking mess

444 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:01:47pm

re: #428 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Don't get all college elitist on me.

I know some perfectly wonderful morons who went to college too.

Did they think the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

/don't stop him...he's on a roll!

445 austin_blue  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:01:49pm

re: #430 talon_262

At what point does Obama lose the use of the "I inherited it from W!" card?

Personaly, I think that time is long past and that any miscues or blunders on the White House's part is pretty much Obama's to own at this point (as well as any triumphs).

Given the depth of the poo pile, I would guess April. If we double dip on the recession, it will be his economic team (him) to blame. Granted. If things start to turn around on the jobs front, I would imagine that folks will start to grudgingly accept that his policies are beginning to take hold and get traction. The depth of the money hole he inherited was huge.

Did he have to throw more money in the hole to stanch the bleeding? Yes. But if he hadn't, the economy would have fallen apart, with no short term loans for anyone to make payroll. It would have been a true clusterf&*k.

446 Gus  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:01:54pm

re: #429 albusteve

people will learn to live with 7% unemployment...so be it...

True, and this of course is a tradition with all presidents.

There is however been too much emphasis places on all presidents regarding the economy. As if they were magical beings with supernatural powers. We have to ask ourselves who has been running the Federal Reserve since 2006 which is a year some claim when things began to crumble. That would be Ben Bernanke. Other include the financial institutions and banks that were assisted with TARP but have yet to loosen credit standards. It also has to do with an airline industry that has been in and out of bankruptcy for several decades. Auto industries that continually need government assistance even in the face of poor management and flawed labor organization practices.

447 Charles Johnson  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:02:10pm

Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller at a rally in Columbus Ohio, ostensibly for Rifqa Bary, at which many of the demonstrators were wearing T-shirts labeled: "ISLAM IS OF THE DEVIL."

Seriously batshit insane. These are the people Spencer chooses to hang out with.

[Link: www.plunderbund.com...]

448 Stuart Leviton  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:02:55pm

re: #435 SanFranciscoZionistHi SanFran. It sounds as goofy to me as it probably does to everyone else. But the theme of Obama wanting to kill off people and the theme of killing his grandmother struck me. My question is about how rhetoric works. And to be clear, I am not even remotely implying that there is a conspiracy built around that theme.

P.S. - I like your joke about Rome.

449 austin_blue  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:03:17pm

re: #434 albusteve

quibble 10%+ unemployment

It would have north of 12%. Quibble that.

450 Gus  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:03:46pm

re: #447 Charles

Robert Spencer and Pamel Geller at a rally in Columbus Ohio, ostensibly for Rifqa Bary, at which many of the demonstrators were wearing T-shirts labeled: "ISLAM IS OF THE DEVIL."

Seriously batshit insane. These are the people Spencer chooses to hang out with.

[Link: www.plunderbund.com...]

Ah, a gathering of the intellectual elite!

//

451 BruceKelly  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:03:54pm

re: #440 Floral Giraffe

I think the 10%+ number is low. It doesn't include people who are ineligible for unemployment, having been out of work for too long.

I have no link but I've been hearing about 17% if you count the under employed (those in part time jobs because that's all they could find).

452 Charles Johnson  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:04:26pm

Those "Islam is of the devil" signs come from this insane fundamentalist church:

[Link: bit.ly...]

453 political lunatic  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:05:38pm

re: #447 Charles

This stuff isn't surprising to me anymore. I know it's hard, but it's best to ignore these people who promote crap like that. No need to feed the trolls.

454 Gus  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:06:45pm

re: #452 Charles

Those "Islam is of the devil" signs come from this insane fundamentalist church:

[Link: bit.ly...]

Another folksy bastion of self taught pseudo theologians.

455 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:06:56pm

re: #442 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

On John Gibson's radio show today, he busted on poor ole' Alex.

I have no idea who Gibson is, but good for him. Jones needs to be busted on at every turn, he promotes stupid/dangerous insanity.

456 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:07:01pm

re: #447 Charles

Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller at a rally in Columbus Ohio, ostensibly for Rifqa Bary, at which many of the demonstrators were wearing T-shirts labeled: "ISLAM IS OF THE DEVIL."

Seriously batshit insane. These are the people Spencer chooses to hang out with.

[Link: www.plunderbund.com...]

Uggghhh...

457 albusteve  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:07:47pm

re: #449 austin_blue

It would have north of 12%. Quibble that.

do you understand the merits of tax cuts?...or is that an elitist republican conspiracy to make people rich?...what the fuck are you talking about?...the donks have no clue or reject reality, one or the other...they thrive on people on the dole...what is the role of govt then?...denile of economic and social fact will not improve the economy as much as buy votes

458 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:08:37pm

re: #452 Charles

Those "Islam is of the devil" signs come from this insane fundamentalist church:

[Link: bit.ly...]

Gainesville FL !!

459 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:09:00pm

re: #452 Charles

Those "Islam is of the devil" signs come from this insane fundamentalist church:

[Link: bit.ly...]

A church that puts a slogan like that has the gall to call its the "Dove World Outreach Center"? What they know about outreach wouldn't fit on a grain of rice. And their actions seem calculated to incite violence.

War is Peace.
Freedom is Slavery.
Ignorance is Strength.

[sobs]

460 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:10:05pm

re: #455 Slumbering Behemoth

Former talking head at FNC. Now has a radio show, which I personally love.

John Gibson

461 freetoken  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:10:18pm

Getting wide play in the progressive=o=sphere:

462 austin_blue  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:10:26pm

re: #453 political lunatic

This stuff isn't surprising to me anymore. I know it's hard, but it's best to ignore these people who promote crap like that. No need to feed the trolls.

You can't ignore it. It's there and it's ascendant among a fairly large segment of the population. It must be be publicized. That's the only way that reasonable people will mock it until it goes underground again. It cannot be killed. It can only be driven down into the holes in which it has always existed in human society.

463 Mich-again  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:10:45pm

re: #452 Charles

"Islam is of the devil"

Can't figure out if that sounds more like Church Lady or Aunt Esther.

464 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:12:02pm

re: #447 Charles

I'm going to go watch the video.
Send help in 10 minutes, if I'm not back...
[Link: www.plunderbund.com...]

465 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:12:29pm

Limbaugh has an advanced case of rabies...complete with foaming and derangement. If this kind of craziness ever gains traction with the mainstream then I fear for America.

466 cliffster  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:12:36pm

re: #457 albusteve

do you understand the merits of tax cuts?...or is that an elitist republican conspiracy to make people rich?...what the fuck are you talking about?...the donks have no clue or reject reality, one or the other...they thrive on people on the dole...what is the role of govt then?...denile of economic and social fact will not improve the economy as much as buy votes

Dude, rich people have nothing to do with the success of the economy. Tax them and then tax them some more.

467 political lunatic  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:13:47pm

re: #462 austin_blue

Thank God that Colbert and Stewart exist. They're the only ones who can get me to laugh at this stuff.

468 austin_blue  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:14:14pm

re: #457 albusteve

do you understand the merits of tax cuts?...or is that an elitist republican conspiracy to make people rich?...what the fuck are you talking about?...the donks have no clue or reject reality, one or the other...they thrive on people on the dole...what is the role of govt then?...denile of economic and social fact will not improve the economy as much as buy votes

On who? Payroll tax cuts so the average consumer has more to spend? Or tax cuts on the richest 10% of the population? Big difference. Be specific.

As for this line:

((denile of economic and social fact will not improve the economy as much as buy votes))

it is both badly parsed and incoherent.

469 badger1  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:15:19pm

re: #467 political lunatic

Stewart is a god.

470 albusteve  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:15:35pm

re: #466 cliffster

Dude, rich people have nothing to do with the success of the economy. Tax them and then tax them some more.

submit to the will of the people...in this case the 'people' are wrong...Obots cannot see this and it's destructive to the economy

471 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:15:52pm

re: #465 Spare O'Lake

Limbaugh has an advanced case of rabies...complete with foaming and derangement. If this kind of craziness ever gains traction with the mainstream then I fear for America.

Sadly, he bites millions of listeners each day. I fear this outbreak of political rabies will end as most of them do: In blood. I don't see how it gets calmed down, so please let me know if you have any ideas.

472 cliffster  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:16:05pm

re: #465 Spare O'Lake

Limbaugh has an advanced case of rabies...complete with foaming and derangement. If this kind of craziness ever gains traction with the mainstream then I fear for America.

Uhhh...

473 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:17:05pm

re: #395 JustJay

You and Mandy are going to get along just fine.

474 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:17:22pm

re: #464 Floral Giraffe

Brain Bleach, STAT!
What is WRONG with those people?
Ooooh, my poor bleeding eyeballs!

475 austin_blue  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:17:40pm

re: #470 albusteve

submit to the will of the people...in this case the 'people' are wrong...Obots cannot see this and it's destructive to the economy

Well it certainly appears that not taxing those who can afford to pay for our overseas wars has been successful in keeping our national debt down.

476 Mich-again  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:17:54pm

The religious right is a major supporter of Israel in US politics. Granted, its because of a vision of end-times, but is has been helpful politically.

477 albusteve  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:17:59pm

re: #468 austin_blue

On who? Payroll tax cuts so the average consumer has more to spend? Or tax cuts on the richest 10% of the population? Big difference. Be specific.

As for this line:

((denile of economic and social fact will not improve the economy as much as buy votes))

it is both badly parsed and incoherent.

weak...thanks tho, you know what I mean...do yourself a favor and vote for economic conservatism, as opposed to higher taxes and debt

478 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:19:54pm

re: #469 badger1

Stewart is a god.

Stewart is a tool...an occasionally funny tool, but a tool nonetheless.

479 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:20:10pm

re: #460 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

He's not on Fox News Radio (FM band) in my area. I occasionally listen to one guy who's show is strictly financial advice, nothing political. His show is good, but I forget his name.

I also occasionally listen to Chris Daniel. I probably only agree with maybe 30% of his positions (he strikes me as more libertarian than conservative), but I like his show because I've never heard him get all agro/psycho at anyone or about anything. He seems to keep his show at a pretty reasonable level of discourse, and can sometimes be quite funny.

480 albusteve  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:20:11pm

I'm out like Barak Obama...KO

481 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:20:55pm

re: #461 freetoken

I uploaded two pictures of my seashell fossil rock.

Image: p1013181l.jpg
Image: p1013180.jpg

What do you think?

482 BruceKelly  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:22:05pm

re: #478 talon_262

Stewart is a tool...an occasionally funny tool, but a tool nonetheless.

I think just about every talking head is somebody's tool.

483 Ojoe  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:22:14pm
484 austin_blue  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:22:27pm

re: #477 albusteve

weak...thanks tho, you know what I mean...do yourself a favor and vote for economic conservatism, as opposed to higher taxes and debt

Dude, there is only so much money in the country. If you can't pay for the cost of government by taxes raised, including the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, you have to borrow it.

We've borrowed. We've borrowed it because we've kept taxes down and now we owe our souls to the Chinese.

I hate to quote Dr. Phil, but

"How's that workin' for ya?"

485 BruceKelly  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:23:21pm

re: #479 Slumbering Behemoth

You can listen online at the Fox news website.

486 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:23:29pm

re: #481 NJDhockeyfan

I uploaded two pictures of my seashell fossil rock.

[Link: img8.imageshack.us...]
[Link: img697.imageshack.us...]

What do you think?

Planted by Lucifer, end of story.
/

487 Achilles Tang  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:23:51pm

re: #467 political lunatic

Thank God that Colbert and Stewart exist. They're the only ones who can get me to laugh at this stuff.

Colbert yes, so far, but I have a different view of Stewart since I realized that he is so ignorant as to think the USA was guilty of war crimes by ending the war with Hiroshima and Nagasaki. He would rather have seen millions more die conventionally, and if that isn't batshit insane I don't know what is (other than scary ignorance).

488 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:23:53pm

re: #436 political lunatic

What you described is all I can see at the moment. Maybe we're at a turning point or maybe we're in for a rough patch that will linger for years. Neither the GOP nor Dems will do anything that will significantly alter the relationship between senators & legislators to the corporate & business world. Some simple accountability would be most helpful. Give detailed accounts of where the BO funds came from and went, with specifics on who/what/when/where/why/how.

489 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:25:05pm

re: #486 Slumbering Behemoth

Planted by Lucifer, end of story.
/

Islam Is of the Devil

I have an Islamic rock!

490 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:25:57pm

re: #485 BruceKelly

I only listen to the radio in the car. When I am online, I prefer to engage in more entertaining and enriching diversions, such as chatting with Lizards. :)

491 BruceKelly  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:27:10pm

re: #487 Naso Tang

Colbert yes, so far, but I have a different view of Stewart since I realized that he is so ignorant as to think the USA was guilty of war crimes by ending the war with Hiroshima and Nagasaki. He would rather have seen millions more die conventionally, and if that isn't batshit insane I don't know what is (other than scary ignorance).

Yes! Really pissed me off with that. He did apologize. I've got to admit that I still watch and enjoy his show.

492 Mich-again  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:27:53pm

re: #481 NJDhockeyfan

What do you think?

I think it looks like a chunk of Bootstrap Bill Turner's forehead.

493 Ojoe  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:28:30pm

re: #488 eclectic infidel

The Dems & the GOP have held the governance of the country between them for many decades and had they been cooperating for the common good the country would not be in the state in which we find it now.

Together the two parties merit a grade of epic fail and I will not vote for a candidate from either one, and it is high time for new party.

494 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:28:33pm

re: #489 NJDhockeyfan

No, you have a Devil rock, pretending to be Islamic.
/

495 Achilles Tang  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:28:59pm

re: #491 BruceKelly

Yes! Really pissed me off with that. He did apologize. I've got to admit that I still watch and enjoy his show.

I didn't know he apologized. Was that just because he heard some people were mad, or because he realized he was an ignorant ass? The former doesn't mean squat to me.

496 cliffster  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:29:14pm

re: #484 austin_blue

Dude, there is only so much money in the country. If you can't pay for the cost of government by taxes raised, including the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, you have to borrow it.

We've borrowed. We've borrowed it because we've kept taxes down and now we owe our souls to the Chinese.

I hate to quote Dr. Phil, but

"How's that workin' for ya?"

You can't drive a car very far if you keep taking gas out of the tank. It's not that complicated a concept, that low taxes on the rich increases government revenue. Taxing the rich is a campaign pledge that blatantly plays on class envy.

497 austin_blue  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:30:08pm

re: #481 NJDhockeyfan

I uploaded two pictures of my seashell fossil rock.

[Link: img8.imageshack.us...]
[Link: img697.imageshack.us...]

What do you think?

Brachiopods. Spirifera or like genera.

498 BruceKelly  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:30:28pm

re: #489 NJDhockeyfan

Islam Is of the Devil

I have an Islamic rock!

If it's also a good throwin' rock then I'd hang on to it. It might come in handy one day.

499 BruceKelly  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:32:42pm

re: #495 Naso Tang

Sadly, I believe it was the former.

500 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:32:52pm

re: #481 NJDhockeyfan

Bivalve. How old?

501 sagehen  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:33:59pm

re: #419 albusteve

right..I'm talking the recovery act or whatever you call it...780b vote buying spree...it has not worked, at all


The CBO says it did.

federal stimulus package sustained between 600,000 and 1.6 million jobs in the third quarter, and raised gross domestic product by 1.2 to 3.2 percentage points higher than it would have been without the program

502 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:34:15pm

re: #500 Rightwingconspirator

Bivalve. How old?

No idea. The mountain it came from is covered with these rocks.

503 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:35:23pm

re: #471 Dark_Falcon

Sadly, he bites millions of listeners each day. I fear this outbreak of political rabies will end as most of them do: In blood. I don't see how it gets calmed down, so please let me know if you have any ideas.

I wish I knew. Full-scale war on the battlefield of ideas is needed - political leadership, education, satire and debate. Some media editorial responsibility over at Fos would also be nice. And hopefully, given enough rope he will eventually hang himself and alienate his audience.
But don't let's hold our breath.

504 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:37:10pm

re: #476 Mich-again

The religious right is a major supporter of Israel in US politics. Granted, its because of a vision of end-times, but is has been helpful politically.

Yes.

505 austin_blue  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:38:19pm

re: #496 cliffster

You can't drive a car very far if you keep taking gas out of the tank. It's not that complicated a concept, that low taxes on the rich increases government revenue. Taxing the rich is a campaign pledge that blatantly plays on class envy.

Okey dokey then. Where is the money going to come from?

Remember the good old 1950's? When we ruled the world? Top marginal tax rate of 90%. Balanced budgets. Healthy social security. Happy days!

Here's a suggestion- google "top marginal tax rates". Take a look at when the big decreases in marginal tax rates began. Then google "Federal Debt" and take a look at those numbers.

Isn't that interesting! The US had a thriving capitalist economy until 1982 without a lot of public debt! It went up and down but by and large we paid our bills! What was it that changed in '82?

More importantly, what has gone off the rails since '82?

506 austin_blue  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:40:09pm

re: #502 NJDhockeyfan

No idea. The mountain it came from is covered with these rocks.

Paleozoic. Best bet- Devonian.

507 austin_blue  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:40:34pm

re: #502 NJDhockeyfan

No idea. The mountain it came from is covered with these rocks.

Where?

508 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:40:56pm

re: #507 austin_blue

Where?

Cottontown, Tn.

509 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:41:27pm

re: #506 austin_blue

Paleozoic. Best bet- Devonian.

How old would that make the fossils?

510 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:42:31pm

re: #505 austin_blue

I can't believe people are still pretending that trickle-down works.

Oh wait, actually I can. :(

511 Mich-again  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:42:38pm

re: #505 austin_blue

More importantly, what has gone off the rails since '82?

That would be the year I graduated from HS and was unleashed on the world. Sorry..

512 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:48:32pm

re: #183 Cato the Elder

There is truth to that statement, but the inclusion of sarc tags, at times, can mean the difference between understanding a post or blowing it sky high out of proportion. Not everyone, all of the time, can clearly articulate what they are thinking, using a word processor. Just sayin'.

513 austin_blue  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:51:45pm

re: #509 NJDhockeyfan

How old would that make the fossils?

440-300 MY. Brachs were the primary bivalves until the Permian disaster.

It looks like a spirifer, based on shell shape, but there were thousands of genera.

514 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:53:13pm

re: #513 austin_blue

440-300 MY. Brachs were the primary bivalves until the Permian disaster.

It looks like a spirifer, based on shell shape, but there were thousands of genera.

How did they get on a mountain in the middle of Tennessee?

515 cliffster  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:57:18pm

re: #505 austin_blue

Okey dokey then. Where is the money going to come from?

Remember the good old 1950's? When we ruled the world? Top marginal tax rate of 90%. Balanced budgets. Healthy social security. Happy days!

Here's a suggestion- google "top marginal tax rates". Take a look at when the big decreases in marginal tax rates began. Then google "Federal Debt" and take a look at those numbers.

Isn't that interesting! The US had a thriving capitalist economy until 1982 without a lot of public debt! It went up and down but by and large we paid our bills! What was it that changed in '82?

More importantly, what has gone off the rails since '82?

I don't normally like to debate with you, because of your patronizing attitude. But when someone is actually arguing that the pre-Kennedy tax rates were actually a good thing, I recognize there's no sense continuing the discussion.

516 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:57:27pm

re: #357 Bubblehead II

And you are the person who chose his nic with the most accuracy among all of us.

517 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 8:59:02pm

Later folks. Time for bed.

518 Cato the Elder  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 9:02:26pm

re: #285 reine.de.tout

How could one possibly know for absolute certain that what happens in the present will definitely be to the detriment of the future?

Ecocentric doom-and-gloom hysterics know. If you fail to recycle that bottle today, your grandchildren will curse you.

519 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 9:04:57pm

re: #476 Mich-again

The religious right is a major supporter of Israel in US politics. Granted, its because of a vision of end-times, but is has been helpful politically.

How so? Not picking a fight, but what have they actually gained for Israel?

520 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 9:06:11pm

re: #489 NJDhockeyfan

Islam Is of the Devil

I have an Islamic rock!

Islamic rock? Shareef don't like it.

521 austin_blue  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 9:06:47pm

re: #514 NJDhockeyfan

How did they get on a mountain in the middle of Tennessee?

In the paleozoic, the eastern United States was a shallow sea. When it crunched against western Africa, an orogenic (mountian building) event occurred that ran from the Ozarks, through Alabama and Tennessee all the way up through the present day Appalaichans and continued into the then connected terraine of Ireland and Scotland. Similar fossil facies are found in all of those countries.

522 austin_blue  Thu, Dec 3, 2009 9:12:30pm

re: #515 cliffster

I don't normally like to debate with you, because of your patronizing attitude. But when someone is actually arguing that the pre-Kennedy tax rates were actually a good thing, I recognize there's no sense continuing the discussion.

Running away is better than arguing the facts, eh? Facts aren't patronizing. Facts are facts. Do the research. Look at the numbers. What did we *change* in the '80s? How has that worked for us?

And I'm outta here. Night Lizards. Sleep well.

523 What, me worry?  Fri, Dec 4, 2009 9:37:55am

Afternoon/morning lizards:

Rush couldn't be more wrong. The provision is to to kill off rightwing talk show hosts not the elderly.

No? Hmmm, I think I'll write my Congressman.

524 Wozza Matter?  Fri, Dec 4, 2009 10:20:34am

re: #140 austin_blue

i'd need to hear the full audio. she has a horrible habit of saying exactly the opposite of what she believes as a sarc on occasion.

can't tell third hand.

525 Olsonist  Fri, Dec 4, 2009 11:15:57am

re: #8 cliffster

As a former college dropout and now college graduate (thank you, UC Berkeley) I can tell you it means quite a bit. I didn't think it meant much while I was gainfully employed on sheer talent in Silicon Valley. But after I went back and worked my ass off getting a real engineering degree, working harder than ever I worked in SV except for one company, I realized what a transformative experience a tough school can be.

Finishing says something about taking things seriously. Taking things seriously is a prerequisite to being taken seriously.

526 exelwood  Fri, Dec 4, 2009 11:32:25am

LOL, offing granny? That's gonna be difficult but you have to admit the left has a long history of killing large numbers of their citizens. Russia, China, North Korea, Cambodia, N. Vietnam, all those little tin pot leftists in Central America, death aplenty!

And what's their one accomplishment they defend the hardest in America? Abortion! Dead babies! Death aplenty! Coincidence? I think not!

///

At least that's what I read on the right wing blogs. :)

527 Olsonist  Fri, Dec 4, 2009 11:59:52am

re: #526 exelwood

but you have to admit the left has a long history of killing large numbers of their citizens. Russia, China, North Korea, Cambodia, N. Vietnam, all those little tin pot leftists in Central America, death aplenty!

Say what? Perhaps you don't recognize Authoritarianism when you see it. I'm definitely of the left, and there's nothing leftist about any of those countries. Socialism (public services like roads and schools) and liberalism (the importance of individual freedom) don't, do not, work under authoritarianism.


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