I’m on the move, on the go, rollin’ on the river, and here’s another open thread while I subject myself to the tender ministrations of the Transportation Security Administration.
Luckily, there’s not much serious news breaking. (As soon as I type that, they’ll probably find Osama bin Laden hiding out in a day spa in Muskogee…)
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:22:59pm |
(As soon as I type that, they’ll probably find Osama bin Laden hiding out in day spa in Muskogee…)
...masturbating with stolen cheese.
/so wrong
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solomonpanting Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:23:56pm |
(As soon as I type that, they’ll probably find Osama bin Laden hiding out in day spa in Muskogee working for the TSA…)
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:27:39pm |
re: #1 Slumbering Behemoth
...masturbating
with stolen cheeseto flounce posts!
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:27:47pm |
(As soon as I type that, they’ll probably find Osama bin Laden hiding out in day spa in Muskogee…)
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Sheila Broflovski Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:29:22pm |
Still tweaking the CSS before I apply the template to the rest of the site. Charles recommended some good articles last night, and I have fixed the "font size" problem that Freetoken pointed out.
Still can't get rid of that 30px gap at the top of the sidebars in IE.
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cliffster Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:32:52pm |
Bin Laden don't smoke marijuana
Bin Laden don't take trips on LSD
Bin Laden don't burn his draft cards
Bin Laden likes living right, and being free
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:34:02pm |
re: #8 cliffster
Bin Laden don't smoke marijuana
Bin Laden don't take trips on LSD
Bin Laden don't burn his draft cards
Bin Laden likes living right, and being free
I wanna be like Osama B.,
I'd be Islamically renowned...
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:34:39pm |
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solomonpanting Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:36:25pm |
re: #6 MandyManners
HIPPIE FROM OLEMA
Jessie Colin Young / Youngbloods
Well i’m proud to be a hippie from olema
Where we’re friendly to the squares and all the straights
We still take in strangers if they’re ragged
We can’t think of anyone to hate
We don’t watch commercials in olema
We don’t buy the plastic crap they sell
We still wear our hair long like folks used to
And we bathe often, therefore we don’t smell
Well i’m proud to be a hippie from olema
Where we’re friendly to the squares and all the straights
We still take in strangers if they’re ragged
We can’t think of anyone to hate
We don’t throw our beer cans on the highway
We don’t slide a man because he’s black
We don’t spill our oil out in the ocean
’Cause we love birds and fish too much for that
And i’m proud to be a hippie from olema
Where we’re friendly to the squares and all the straights
We still take in strangers if they’re Haggard
In Olema, california, planet earth
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:36:31pm |
re: #10 Slumbering Behemoth
Had totally forgotten about that...
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Crimsonfisted Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:36:46pm |
Midday? Just finished dinner, enjoying a cocktail, shutting down for the night. Reading LGF and surfing the net.
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HelloDare Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:37:14pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:37:40pm |
re: #11 solomonpanting
HIPPIE FROM OLEMA
Jessie Colin Young / Youngbloods
Well i’m proud to be a hippie from olema
Where we’re friendly to the squares and all the straights
We still take in strangers if they’re ragged
We can’t think of anyone to hateWe don’t watch commercials in olema
We don’t buy the plastic crap they sell
We still wear our hair long like folks used to
And we bathe often, therefore we don’t smellWell i’m proud to be a hippie from olema
Where we’re friendly to the squares and all the straights
We still take in strangers if they’re ragged
We can’t think of anyone to hateWe don’t throw our beer cans on the highway
We don’t slide a man because he’s black
We don’t spill our oil out in the ocean
’Cause we love birds and fish too much for thatAnd i’m proud to be a hippie from olema
Where we’re friendly to the squares and all the straights
We still take in strangers if they’re Haggard
In Olema, california, planet earth
Olema!
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:37:45pm |
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:40:33pm |
re: #12 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Back from the salt mines.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:41:35pm |
Hey, Walter, didn't you have a link to a website that could help me place some Roman coins by emperor?
Was that someone else?
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tradewind Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:42:01pm |
Not unless his dust has been incorporated into a mud masque.////
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tradewind Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:43:08pm |
re: #8 cliffster
Dust in the wind...
All he is is dust in the wind.......
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Stuart Leviton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:44:06pm |
re: #9 SanFranciscoZionist
I wanna be like Osama B.,
I'd be Islamically renowned...
I didn't know you could sing so well
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:46:39pm |
re: #22 Stuart Leviton
I didn't know you could sing so well
I wanna be like Osama
I wanna wear designer clothes beneath a robe
While my lackeys loom like vultures, I’ll declare a clash of cultures,
Kill civilians by the millions round the globe
Grow a beard down to my navel, conquer YouTube, get on cable,
And be wealthier than any man I know
Please make me like Osama B.
With an Al Jazeera Show!
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:47:37pm |
re: #23 SanFranciscoZionist
I really, really, wish I could find the rest of that musical.
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Digital Display Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:48:18pm |
Breaking News (AP) Osama Bin Laden was arrested today working as a Barrister at a Starbucks in Plainfield, New Jersey today..Heard speaking to himself while being lead off in Handcuffs today by MYFox11.. Osama said, ' I swear to Allah I never thought they'd look in Plainfield for me.'
High level meetings between Osama's lawyers and the Justice Dept. are underway.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:48:24pm |
re: #17 Walter L. Newton
Back from the salt mines.
they didn't break your spirit and steal your soul?
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:48:48pm |
re: #18 EmmmieG
Hey, Walter, didn't you have a link to a website that could help me place some Roman coins by emperor?
Was that someone else?
By emperor. No, the only positive way to identify an emperor on most Roman coins is my the actual inscription in the obverse (the side with the bust)... or part of the inscription. If you are looking at the obverse (bust) side, the name will usually start on the left, sometimes start with some small title (DN, Fil, etc.). The reverse of the coin usually has some inscription what relates some political message or military victory and some more information about the emperor (such as his co-counsel number, father of the country etc).
Latin inscriptions on Roman coins are a lot of abbreviations. Let me check if I can find a site with info on the inscriptions. But you are going to have to be able to read the inscriptions most of the time to place the ruler. Especially later on, when the portrait art became horrible, and every representation of the emperor look almost the same.
I find something with some detail.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:49:18pm |
re: #18 EmmmieG
Hey, Walter, didn't you have a link to a website that could help me place some Roman coins by emperor?
Was that someone else?
[Link: coins.calkinsc.com...]
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:50:05pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:51:15pm |
re: #25 HoosierHoops
He probably would have stayed under the radar if he didn't screw around the company logo on the window.
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Stuart Leviton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:51:24pm |
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:55:14pm |
re: #26 albusteve
they didn't break your spirit and steal your soul?
No, but you would never realize how labor intensive a large non-profit thrift store is. Donated items are sorted, priced, put on the sales floor, rotated back off the floor after a certain period of time, then recyclable parts are salvaged, other items are put into big binded bundles and sold wholesale and a lot of stuff is just destroyed.
And you have to sort through box after box of stuff, different production stations get different items, a lot of donated stuff is actually trash to begin with and that has to be disposed (you take everything even if you are going to throw it away, because that build a good will with the donors and keeps them coming back.
And I work in furniture, so that everything from projection screen TV to sofas, beds, ugly Mediterranean style dressers, electronics, pianos, organs sporting goods, appliances (yes, refrigerators too), in short my job is a bit physical.
Hey, I need the work.
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:56:49pm |
Apropos of nothing, just in case someone present doesn't remember John Fahey:
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:57:37pm |
re: #34 Walter L. Newton
No, but you would never realize how labor intensive a large non-profit thrift store is. Donated items are sorted, priced, put on the sales floor, rotated back off the floor after a certain period of time, then recyclable parts are salvaged, other items are put into big binded bundles and sold wholesale and a lot of stuff is just destroyed.
And you have to sort through box after box of stuff, different production stations get different items, a lot of donated stuff is actually trash to begin with and that has to be disposed (you take everything even if you are going to throw it away, because that build a good will with the donors and keeps them coming back.
And I work in furniture, so that everything from projection screen TV to sofas, beds, ugly Mediterranean style dressers, electronics, pianos, organs sporting goods, appliances (yes, refrigerators too), in short my job is a bit physical.
Hey, I need the work.
you'll get toughened up, and you may find a treasure taped to a drawer or whatever...I'd be lookin
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:58:11pm |
re: #34 Walter L. Newton
No, but you would never realize how labor intensive a large non-profit thrift store is. Donated items are sorted, priced, put on the sales floor, rotated back off the floor after a certain period of time, then recyclable parts are salvaged, other items are put into big binded bundles and sold wholesale and a lot of stuff is just destroyed.
And you have to sort through box after box of stuff, different production stations get different items, a lot of donated stuff is actually trash to begin with and that has to be disposed (you take everything even if you are going to throw it away, because that build a good will with the donors and keeps them coming back.
And I work in furniture, so that everything from projection screen TV to sofas, beds, ugly Mediterranean style dressers, electronics, pianos, organs sporting goods, appliances (yes, refrigerators too), in short my job is a bit physical.
Hey, I need the work.
One benefit of the recession for employers is that there are plenty of qualified and over-qualified applicants to pick from. Hope they appreciate the bargain they're getting in you.
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Stuart Leviton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:58:21pm |
re: #36 The Sanity InspectorDouble-ding-ding for John Fahey
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Dec 30, 2009 3:59:04pm |
re: #34 Walter L. Newton
Friend of mine was a manager for a thrift store (my son worked there for a while) the absolute shit that people donated never ceased to amaze me. They had a gigantic dumpster that was emptied quite often.
People think they're being generous, dump fees cost this place a sizable chunk of cash. This was for a rescue mission, I'm just guessing, but bad donations took dinner off of the tables for needy people.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:00:06pm |
re: #32 EmmmieG
Thank you!
I would say you can actually place the emperor by the actual bust on the coin from about Augustus to Antonio Pius, and few of the emperors in the 200's can be placed by the bust, by about 280 onward the art started to get so cheap that almost every bust looked the same.
And you have emperor's like the Trajan line, where there was a lot of family resemblance, so all 3 emperors from that line look similar.
Like I said above, bottom line, best way to attribute the coin is by the inscription.
If you become really good, you can ball park almost any Roman coin just by looking at it, even with a bad worn inscription, but that takes a lot of practice.
Did I send you a Roman coin, cause if I did, I can give you an idea of what era to start looking, I know what I sent you.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:00:57pm |
re: #36 The Sanity Inspector
I can't forget someone who I've never heard of. Awesome! Thanks!
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darthstar Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:01:40pm |
I'm liking the White House response to Dick Cheney's latest Fox News tour:
...snip...To put it simply: this President is not interested in bellicose rhetoric, he is focused on action. Seven years of bellicose rhetoric failed to reduce the threat from al Qaeda and succeeded in dividing this country. And it seems strangely off-key now, at a time when our country is under attack, for the architect of those policies to be attacking the President....snip...The difference is this: President Obama doesn’t need to beat his chest to prove it, and – unlike the last Administration – we are not at war with a tactic (“terrorism”), we at war with something that is tangible: al Qaeda and its violent extremist allies. And we will prosecute that war as long as the American people are endangered.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:01:50pm |
re: #42 Walter L. Newton
No, Christmas present, but I remembered that you had posted the link. One is pretty obviously one of the Constantines. (Based on the obverse inscription.)
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:02:01pm |
re: #35 Decatur Deb
New gig came through? Congrats.
Yes it di, started Monday. Major thrift store chain. Furniture department, officail title "Furniture Pricer" which translates to furniture hauler, fixer, hauler, cleaner, hauler, tester, hauler, disposer pricer.
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tradewind Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:02:30pm |
..rollin' on the river..
Be careful when you're pumpin' lots of 'pane down in New Orleans......
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:03:33pm |
re: #46 Walter L. Newton
Yes it di, started Monday. Major thrift store chain. Furniture department, officail title "Furniture Pricer" which translates to furniture hauler, fixer, hauler, cleaner, hauler, tester, hauler, disposer pricer.
watch your back....literally
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solomonpanting Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:03:42pm |
re: #36 The Sanity Inspector
Apropos of nothing, just in case someone present doesn't remember John Fahey
I wore out a couple of his LPs way back when.
I saw him along with Taj Mahal circa 1973 at Humboldt State College.
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Stuart Leviton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:03:55pm |
re: #46 Walter L. Newton
Yes it di, started Monday. Major thrift store chain. Furniture department, officail title "Furniture Pricer" which translates to furniture hauler, fixer, hauler, cleaner, hauler, tester, hauler, disposer pricer.
Will they pay you a Christmas bonus? Hope so.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:04:03pm |
re: #45 EmmmieG
No, Christmas present, but I remembered that you had posted the link. One is pretty obviously one of the Constantines. (Based on the obverse inscription.)
If you see "fil" or some variation before the name, one of the sons, if you see DN, it's daddy after he died. If the name ends in "stans" that's Constans, there is also Constantanius (another son) and daddy Constantine. They can get confusing.
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:05:41pm |
re: #40 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Friend of mine was a manager for a thrift store (my son worked there for a while) the absolute shit that people donated never ceased to amaze me. They had a gigantic dumpster that was emptied quite often.
People think they're being generous, dump fees cost this place a sizable chunk of cash. This was for a rescue mission, I'm just guessing, but bad donations took dinner off of the tables for needy people.
Some people donate junk, & then write it off their taxes.
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Stuart Leviton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:05:54pm |
re: #49 solomonpanting
I wore out a couple of his LPs way back when.
I saw him along with Taj Mahal circa 1973 at Humboldt State College.
Humboldt College? Wasn't that a Firesign Theatre album Amigo?
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Jaerik Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:06:07pm |
re: #44 darthstar
I don't know if I'm more disappointed that the White House has to use their website for political smackdowns, or that certain news outlets have become so rabidly partisan that they're forced to.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:06:21pm |
re: #48 albusteve
watch your back...literally
No, good place (it's not Goodwill, ok, but another major non-profit organization)... rather "clean" workplace if you know what I mean. There are daily Community Service "volunteers" but I haven't seen anyone in the last two days that are like harden criminals, a lot of DWI, silly dope charges, that sort of stuff.
And a LOT of cameras linked to HQ in Denver. Big Brother is watching all the time.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:06:38pm |
re: #49 solomonpanting
I wore out a couple of his LPs way back when.
I saw him along with Taj Mahal circa 1973 at Humboldt State College.
saw my buddy Taj in Sept...strickly old time blues...he's a national treasure...played with Bonnie Raitt...whoa!
they called it "The Bon Taj Roulez Tour'....
a charity gig
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tradewind Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:06:44pm |
re: #44 darthstar
No one is asking Obama to ' beat his chest'. But he has some people working for him who could use a good ass-whuppin'.
It does look like POTUS did Fox a favor, though....
[Link: www.politico.com...]
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:07:11pm |
re: #52 The Sanity Inspector
Some people donate junk, & then write it off their taxes.
Yep... 100 percent right.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:07:26pm |
re: #55 Walter L. Newton
No, good place (it's not Goodwill, ok, but another major non-profit organization)... rather "clean" workplace if you know what I mean. There are daily Community Service "volunteers" but I haven't seen anyone in the last two days that are like harden criminals, a lot of DWI, silly dope charges, that sort of stuff.
And a LOT of cameras linked to HQ in Denver. Big Brother is watching all the time.
watch out for your spine too...
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tradewind Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:08:10pm |
re: #58 Walter L. Newton
Bill and Hillary wrote off donated underwear.
Seriously.
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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:08:47pm |
Good thing we have silent means of tele-communication like the net these days. I would be unable to accept phone calls here in Lubbock for now, since I can't hear anything for all the wailing and gnashing of teeth from Mike Leach fans.
The fans are practically unanimous in defending Leach, blaming TTU chancellor Kent "Skeletor" Hance and AD Gerald "Lemon-sucker" Myers for the debacle.
I dislike these two immensely* but I am withholding judgment on this for now. I am not privy to all the facts (and neither are the fans) but one should not discount the possibility that Leach's own conduct is a factor.
* (Hance is still mad over the abolition of slavery and the only time Myers has ever been reported to have smiled was when he ran over a puppy on the way to work)
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:08:55pm |
re: #44 darthstar
I'm liking the White House response to Dick Cheney's latest Fox News tour:
wow...is that a load of bullshit or what..alot of word mincing there
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:09:23pm |
re: #56 albusteve
saw my buddy Taj in Sept...strickly old time blues...he's a national treasure...played with Bonnie Raitt...whoa!
they called it "The Bon Taj Roulez Tour'...
a charity gig
And to think he used to wear cowboy suits.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:09:40pm |
re: #40 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Friend of mine was a manager for a thrift store (my son worked there for a while) the absolute shit that people donated never ceased to amaze me. They had a gigantic dumpster that was emptied quite often.
People think they're being generous, dump fees cost this place a sizable chunk of cash. This was for a rescue mission, I'm just guessing, but bad donations took dinner off of the tables for needy people.
I had a suspicion that could be a problem for these places.
I never donate trash.
If it isn't in good condition, working, with all parts, I toss it myself.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:09:46pm |
re: #51 Walter L. Newton
If you see "fil" or some variation before the name, one of the sons, if you see DN, it's daddy after he died. If the name ends in "stans" that's Constans, there is also Constantanius (another son) and daddy Constantine. They can get confusing.
Well, I'm currently using my son's digital microscope to look at it (which is not actually why I bought it, really), and it's DN Constantinim(?), possibly II. With a wreath on the reverse.
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solomonpanting Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:10:00pm |
re: #53 Stuart Leviton
Humboldt College? Wasn't that a Firesign Theatre album Amigo?
I have no idea. I never got into the Firesign Theatre.
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tradewind Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:10:09pm |
re: #62 albusteve
If they do for Cheney what they did for Fox, they may decide to quit the rapid response mode.//
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darthstar Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:10:13pm |
re: #54 Jaerik
I don't know if I'm more disappointed that the White House has to use their website for political smackdowns, or that certain news outlets have become so rabidly partisan that they're forced to.
Sadly, I agree on both fronts. Obviously, nobody is questioning the critics of the current administration or their motives for being so ruthless in attacking the president.
If you compare the responses to the shoe bomber (Reid) in 2001 and the underwear bomber of last week, you'll see a laid back and hands off approach by the Bush administration as well. Likewise, Richard Reid was tried in civilian court and is currently a menace to society in a Colorado supermax prison...yet the cries for this guy to be sent to Gitmo are unrelenting.
At least the RNC and people like Hoekstra are seeing the benefit of this latest attack, as a fund-raising opportunity.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:11:51pm |
re: #59 albusteve
watch out for your spine too...
Ok, that's what you meant. Well, yes, it's a little stiff right now, but that's because I have been lazy the last year, put on about 20 pounds and haven't done the gym thing in a year.
That's one of the reasons I wanted a full time job. With the theatre I was home an average of 4 days a week, a lot of time to be lazy and munch a lot.
I really need this, since it is a "production" type job, constantly on my feet moving around, hauling furniture, prices electronics and helping customers, I don't have time for a lot of snacking, it really like factory work.
I need the exercise.
They have a saying there... work smart not hard. They don't want any accidents... so far in the last year they were accident free from Jan-Sept.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:12:02pm |
re: #63 The Sanity Inspector
And to think he used to wear cowboy suits.
[Video]
heh...the Taj can where whatever he wants...he has monster greatness, it sinks in over the course of a whole show
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:12:18pm |
re: #60 tradewind
Bill and Hillary wrote off donated underwear.
Seriously.
I know, we have them in aisle 4.
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Digital Display Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:13:00pm |
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sandbox Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:13:43pm |
re: #68 darthstar
In retrospect Reid should have been sent to GITMO.
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solomonpanting Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:14:08pm |
re: #60 tradewind
Bill and Hillary wrote off donated underwear.
Seriously.
Did Bill think long and hard to make that donation or was it sperm of the moment?
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:14:39pm |
re: #73 sandbox
In retrospect Reid should have been sent to GITMO.
Why? He's off the street permanently.
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Blueheron Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:14:56pm |
Here is a piece of poetry I like. Can't say I don't have couth :))
Life Gets Tedious , Don't It?
The sun comes up and the sun goes down,
The hands on the clock keep going round,
I just get up and it's time to lay down,
Life gets tedious, don't it?
My shoes untied but I don't care,
I was'nt figuring on going nowhere,
I'd have to wash and comb my hair,
And that's just wasted effort.
Water in the well gettin' lower end lower,
Can't take a bath for a month or more,
But I've heard it told and it's true I'm sure,
That too much bathing weakens yer.
Open the door and the flies come in,
Shut the door and yer sweating again,
And in the process, I cracked my shin,
Just one darn thing after another.
Ole brown mule, he must be sick,
I jabbed him in the rump with a pin on a stick,
He humped his back but he did'nt kick,
There's something cockeyed somewhere.
Ole mouse chawing on the pantry door,
Been chawing there for a month or more,
When he gets through he's gonna be sore,
There aint a darn thing in there.
Hound dog howling so forlorn,
Laziest dog that ever was born,
He's howling cause he's sittin' on a thorn,
And he's just too tired to move over.
Tin roof leaks and the chimney leans,
There's a hole in the seat of my old blue jeans,
I 'ate the last of my pork and beans,
Just can't depend on nothin'.
Cows gone dry and the hens won't iay,
Fish stopped biting last Saturday,
Troubles piling up day by day,
And now I'm gettin' dandruff.
Grief and misery pain and woes,
Bills and taxes and so it goes,
And now I'm gettin' a cold in the nose,
Life gets tasteless - Don't it?!
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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:15:00pm |
re: #60 tradewind
Bill and Hillary wrote off donated underwear.
Seriously.
Wingnut bloggers might pay good money for evidence like that.
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:15:02pm |
re: #64 reine.de.tout
I had a suspicion that could be a problem for these places.
I never donate trash.
If it isn't in good condition, working, with all parts, I toss it myself.
Most donation centers will never say so, but they all have one unspoken rule: If we can smell it, we don't want it.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:15:53pm |
re: #54 Jaerik
I don't know if I'm more disappointed that the White House has to use their website for political smackdowns, or that certain news outlets have become so rabidly partisan that they're forced to.
I agree that certain news sites are displaying a partisanship not obvious before.
re: #68 darthstar
Sadly, I agree on both fronts. Obviously, nobody is questioning the critics of the current administration or their motives for being so ruthless in attacking the president. . .
Administration critics are not new, regardless of who is President.
Whoever is President, there are those who question the administrationk's actions AND motives. Nothing new here at all. The players have simply changed.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:16:03pm |
re: #75 SanFranciscoZionist
Why? He's off the street permanently.
I guarantee wherever he's located is far worse than Gitmo, which is more of a spa than prison
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:16:10pm |
re: #72 HoosierHoops
Any word on the job?
Yes, started Monday. Major thrift store chain. Furniture department, official title "Furniture Pricer" which translates to furniture hauler, fixer, hauler, cleaner, hauler, tester, hauler, disposer, hauler pricer.
(check up thread for more info)
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sandbox Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:16:45pm |
re: #75 SanFranciscoZionist
IMO a bad precedent. Uman should now be in the military commissions or military court. Not our civilian court. This is a war.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:17:55pm |
re: #81 Walter L. Newton
Yes, started Monday. Major thrift store chain. Furniture department, official title "Furniture Pricer" which translates to furniture hauler, fixer, hauler, cleaner, hauler, tester, hauler, disposer, hauler pricer.
(check up thread for more info)
Kinda like working in a non-union theatre.
(got to sneak that in again!)
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darthstar Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:18:41pm |
re: #75 SanFranciscoZionist
Why? He's off the street permanently.
Because it makes the current calls for the Christmas Bomber to be sent to Guantanamo Bay sound somewhat hypocritical...
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reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:19:03pm |
re: #78 The Sanity Inspector
Most donation centers will never say so, but they all have one unspoken rule: If we can smell it, we don't want it.
If I donate clothes, they are clean - they might not be pressed perfectly, but they are clean.
If I donate a piece of furniture, it's not because it's broken - it's because it's a decent piece of furniture that I no longer have room or use for.
If I donate equipment, it will be in good working order with all parts, EVEN BATTERIES that I place into a plastic bag and tape to it.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:19:14pm |
re: #44 darthstar
I just watched Chris Matthews on Hardball fold Ron Christie up like he was an origami swan. he just cut him down like a tree, over all the Dick Cheney bloviating and politicization and blah-blah-Obama-dun-know-wer-at-war-hyk crap, about that attempted terrorist attack on Christmas. It was pretty satisfying to watch, and I'm not even a big Matthews fan.
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:19:25pm |
Russian Mi-26 helicopter rescues downed NATO chopper in Afghanistan.
Yet another headline you wouldn't have read in the 80s.
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wrenchwench Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:19:34pm |
re: #81 Walter L. Newton
Yes, started Monday. Major thrift store chain. Furniture department, official title "Furniture Pricer" which translates to furniture hauler, fixer, hauler, cleaner, hauler, tester, hauler, disposer, hauler pricer.
(check up thread for more info)
Do you have to do any hauling?
/
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webevintage Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:20:16pm |
re: #34 Walter L. Newton
And I work in furniture, so that everything from projection screen TV to sofas, beds, ugly Mediterranean style dressers, electronics, pianos, organs sporting goods, appliances (yes, refrigerators too), in short my job is a bit physical.
My home is decorated with mid century modern estate sale and thrift store buys.
I love thrift stores....
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Digital Display Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:20:18pm |
re: #81 Walter L. Newton
Yes, started Monday. Major thrift store chain. Furniture department, official title "Furniture Pricer" which translates to furniture hauler, fixer, hauler, cleaner, hauler, tester, hauler, disposer, hauler pricer.
(check up thread for more info)
Fantastic! Best wishes!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:20:30pm |
re: #82 sandbox
IMO a bad precedent. Uman should now be in the military commissions or military court. Not our civilian court. This is a war.
yeah yeah, we got it, Democrat in the white house, everything is a bad precedent. Squawk squak parrot the talking points, have a cracker. 9_9
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darthstar Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:20:43pm |
re: #82 sandbox
IMO a bad precedent. Uman should now be in the military commissions or military court. Not our civilian court. This is a war.
You can only have a war with another country. Terrorists are criminals. They should be treated as criminals. Prisoners of war can only be held until the war is declared over, and then they must be sent home--free of any charges.
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darthstar Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:22:34pm |
re: #87 WindUpBird
Matthews good moments are few and far between, but when something as obvious as this presents itself, even he can hit it out of the park.
No MSNBC here, so I just watched Bowling Green tie the game with Idaho.
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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:22:54pm |
Wall to wall Mike Leach coverage at Lubbock Online (usable but still running like it's powered by an antique windmill tottering on the roof of Natalie Maines' ancestral outhouse).
Lowlights:
Leach's very terse termination letter.
Fan reaction (NOT good)
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:22:55pm |
re: #81 Walter L. Newton
Yes, started Monday. Major thrift store chain. Furniture department, official title "Furniture Pricer" which translates to furniture hauler, fixer, hauler, cleaner, hauler, tester, hauler, disposer, hauler pricer.
(check up thread for more info)
I know a dude who has exactly this job, but only applied to computers. He gets old machines, guts them, tests the parts, puts them back together, puts Linux on them, boom, functioning machines back from the grave. He's had some great stories about how dirty these old PCs get.
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sandbox Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:23:06pm |
re: #93 darthstar
Really. Only we are at war with a movement. Sorry your rule book doesn't cover that contingency.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:23:30pm |
re: #92 WindUpBird
yeah yeah, we got it, Democrat in the white house, everything is a bad precedent. Squawk squak parrot the talking points, have a cracker. 9_9
maybe it's not a partisan issue...ever think of that?
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Blueheron Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:23:32pm |
re: #77 Shiplord Kirel
Wingnut bloggers might pay good money for evidence like that.
It was big news when Clinton was President.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:23:33pm |
re: #94 darthstar
Matthews good moments are few and far between, but when something as obvious as this presents itself, even he can hit it out of the park.
No MSNBC here, so I just watched Bowling Green tie the game with Idaho.
Are these sports you speak of? I'm not familiar :D
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:24:25pm |
re: #95 Shiplord Kirel
Your descriptions today, are making me LOL!
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webevintage Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:24:34pm |
re: #87 WindUpBird
I just watched Chris Matthews on Hardball fold Ron Christie up like he was an origami swan. he just cut him down like a tree, over all the Dick Cheney bloviating and politicization and blah-blah-Obama-dun-know-wer-at-war-hyk crap, about that attempted terrorist attack on Christmas. It was pretty satisfying to watch, and I'm not even a big Matthews fan.
Yes, yes it was...Ron Christie he loves that Dick Chaney.
I thought Joan Walsh was almost as good as the time she pissed Dick Armey off so much that the only response he had was "I'm so damn glad you could never be my wife".
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:24:46pm |
re: #98 albusteve
maybe it's not a partisan issue...ever think of that?
I don't believe for a moment that the vast majority of Republicans would be wigging out about civilian courts during a Reublican administration.
Because they didn't.
Where was the outrage about Moussaoui? about Richard Ried? There was none. Because It's Okay If You're A Republican.
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darthstar Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:25:16pm |
re: #97 sandbox
Really. Only we are at war with a movement. Sorry your rule book doesn't cover that contingency.
You can't be at war with an idea/movement/powerful emotion (terror is, after all, just a powerful emotion). You can work to change public opinion so the movement dies, but that isn't something you can accomplish with force.
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Stuart Leviton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:25:33pm |
re: #76 BlueheronThat was Carson Robison, writer of many classic c&w songs such as "carry me back to the lonesome prarie" and "the wreck of the number nine" (sorry grateful dead, someone beat you to it). Great stuff.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:26:08pm |
re: #103 WindUpBird
I don't believe for a moment that the vast majority of Republicans would be wigging out about civilian courts during a Reublican administration.
Because they didn't.
Where was the outrage about Moussaoui? about Richard Ried? There was none. Because It's Okay If You're A Republican.
the vast majority of any party doesn't get outraged....blogs are misleading like that, hardly a reflection of the real world...rather a small slice at best
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:26:29pm |
re: #102 webevintage
Yes, yes it was...Ron Christie he loves that Dick Chaney.
I thought Joan Walsh was almost as good as the time she pissed Dick Armey off so much that the only response he had was "I'm so damn glad you could never be my wife".
Her response should have been "No, I'd be your husband, Dick." :D
Seriously, Dick Armey's name could not be more appropriate. His Tea Party republican astroturf group Freedomworks is exactly that, an army of dicks.
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sandbox Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:27:32pm |
re: #104 darthstar
We are at war with a transnational movement--radical islam. It doesn't mean we have to invade or bomb every country where the radical islamists are. We just have to acknowledge we are on a war footing.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:27:49pm |
re: #54 Jaerik
I don't know if I'm more disappointed that the White House has to use their website for political smackdowns, or that certain news outlets have become so rabidly partisan that they're forced to.
I don't know about that. Bush did a lousy job when it came to responding to misinformation from his critics. Obama's not going to repeat that mistake.
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Blueheron Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:28:10pm |
re: #105 Stuart Leviton
That was Carson Robison, writer of many classic c&w songs such as "carry me back to the lonesome prarie" and "the wreck of the number nine" (sorry grateful dead, someone beat you to it). Great stuff.
I knew someone with a discerning taste would appreciate it :))
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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:29:05pm |
re: #99 Blueheron
It was big news when Clinton was President.
I seem to remember something along that line, but it is still current to the fever swamp elements of the right. You never know what might turn up.
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webevintage Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:29:22pm |
Part of the response from the WH today:
"Second, the former Vice President makes the clearly untrue claim that the President – who is this nation’s Commander-in-Chief – needs to realize we are at War. I don’t think anyone realizes this very hard reality more than President Obama. In his inaugural, the President said “our nation is at war against a far-reaching network of violence and hatred" [...]
There are numerous other such public statements that explicitly state we are at war. The difference is this: President Obama doesn’t need to beat his chest to prove it, and – unlike the last Administration – we are not at war with a tactic (“terrorism”), we at war with something that is tangible: al Qaeda and its violent extremist allies. And we will prosecute that war as long as the American people are endangered. "
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Racer X Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:30:22pm |
"We are at war"
Yes we are Mr. President. And we need to ACT like it.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:31:00pm |
re: #106 albusteve
the vast majority of any party doesn't get outraged...blogs are misleading like that, hardly a reflection of the real world...rather a small slice at best
Uh, I'm also referring to the GOP's party stance on this. The actual official responses coming from luminaries and operatives in the party. The stance is INSTANT OUTRAGE!!11 about Obama's response, which is by the way half the time it took Bush to respond to the shoe bomber. he's doing very little differently from Bush security-wise, across the board, he's escalating in Afghanistan, hes got operatives in yemen, he's doing it right, but you got Dick Cheney and others who are just whining and bloviating every second of every day. It's sleazy and craven politics, and it makes Republicans look petty and infantile.
Once again, IOKIYAR.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:31:31pm |
re: #109 Killgore Trout
I don't know about that. Bush did a lousy job when it came to responding to misinformation from his critics. Obama's not going to repeat that mistake.
he already has with his 'saved the economy' meme, with regard to bogus and misleading unemployment/saved jobs numbers....but in terms of terrorism you may be right...presidents have to rely on somebody to tell them what's up
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allegro Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:31:51pm |
re: #114 Racer X
Yes we are Mr. President. And we need to ACT like it.
Running outside to plant a Victory Garden.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:31:56pm |
re: #91 HoosierHoops
Fantastic! Best wishes!
I'll invite you to my funeral after I drop dead from exhaustion.
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Stuart Leviton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:32:19pm |
re: #111 albusteveHeck, they should just declare tonight Taj night - and maybe toss in some david romburg, leo kotke, jon renbourne, bert jansch, among countless others). In other words, bring 'em on!
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Blueheron Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:32:27pm |
re: #113 webevintage
Part of the response from the WH today:
"Second, the former Vice President makes the clearly untrue claim that the President – who is this nation’s Commander-in-Chief – needs to realize we are at War. I don’t think anyone realizes this very hard reality more than President Obama. In his inaugural, the President said “our nation is at war against a far-reaching network of violence and hatred" [...]
There are numerous other such public statements that explicitly state we are at war. The difference is this: President Obama doesn’t need to beat his chest to prove it, and – unlike the last Administration – we are not at war with a tactic (“terrorism”), we at war with something that is tangible: al Qaeda and its violent extremist allies. And we will prosecute that war as long as the American people are endangered. "
Obama is Joe Cool so that is just exactly the way he would respond.........but then again no one has knocked over buildings on his watch. Maybe if they had he would respond similarly as Bush. But with more eloquence of course.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:32:41pm |
.re: #109 Killgore Trout
I don't know about that. Bush did a lousy job when it came to responding to misinformation from his critics. Obama's not going to repeat that mistake.
The best defense is a good offense, Obama learned from Kerry not responding to the swiftboat smears, and he learned from Bush. If the politics goes into the gutter, that sucks, but he should respond quickly and forcefully.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:33:20pm |
re: #108 sandbox
We are at war with a transnational movement--radical islam. It doesn't mean we have to invade or bomb every country where the radical islamists are. We just have to acknowledge we are on a war footing.
War footing is when many sons of major politicians twist the rules to get into the military, taxes are raised to support the effort, and daily life is disrupted "for the duration". This is something else.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:33:20pm |
re: #119 Stuart Leviton
Heck, they should just declare tonight Taj night - and maybe toss in some david romburg, leo kotke, jon renbourne, bert jansch, among countless others). In other words, bring 'em on!
just showing how ecclectic Taj is...he's very much like Ry Cooder in that respect
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:33:35pm |
re: #81 Walter L. Newton
It would be the ultimate test for me to come home from work empty handed. Good luck!!
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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:34:38pm |
re: #107 WindUpBird
Her response should have been "No, I'd be your husband, Dick." :D
Seriously, Dick Armey's name could not be more appropriate. His Tea Party republican astroturf group Freedomworks is exactly that, an army of dicks.
I can't believe what a horse's ass Armey has turned out to be. I actually knew him back in the 80s when he was the only person at North Texas State who was to the right of me politically. He seemed like a very smart and decent guy then. Now he's just a shill and not even a very good one, since nobody outside the choir will listen to his sermon.
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sandbox Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:35:04pm |
re: #113 webevintage
we at war with something that is tangible: al Qaeda and its violent extremist allies
Didn't they leave something out in characterizing our enemy, what could it be, something they have in common...?
They are so politically correct that naming the enemy--radical islam-- is off bounds.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:35:38pm |
I finished my year end accounting and things look pretty damn good. No debt (aside from my mortgage) and i'm flush with a decent amount of cash. With a little bit of luck I'll even be free from a mortgage in 7 months or so.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:35:47pm |
unreleased Stones....cover of Doby Grey's classic
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Stuart Leviton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:35:53pm |
re: #118 Walter L. Newton
I'll invite you to my funeral after I drop dead from exhaustion.
Hang on bro'. You gotta get to Paris. Hoosier and I envy that trip. Seriously, glad you got a job. You're a talented man!
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Racer X Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:35:58pm |
re: #121 WindUpBird
.
The best defense is a good offense, Obama learned from Kerry not responding to the swiftboat smears, and he learned from Bush. If the politics goes into the gutter, that sucks, but he should respond quickly and forcefully.
Agreed.
I particularly liked how he responded to the "The system worked" debacle:
Obama Slams Security Breach
"A systemic failure has occurred and I consider that totally unacceptable," the president said, referencing "a mix of human and systemic failure." In his comments, the president cited information "that could have and should have been pieced together."
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Stuart Leviton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:36:56pm |
re: #123 albusteve
just showing how ecclectic Taj is...he's very much like Ry Cooder in that respect
Got a Ry Cooder recommendation for tonight?
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:37:03pm |
re: #127 Killgore Trout
I finished my year end accounting and things look pretty damn good. No debt (aside from my mortgage) and i'm flush with a decent amount of cash. With a little bit of luck I'll even be free from a mortgage in 7 months or so.
excellent!...just nice...debt free is an awesome thing, good for you
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Blueheron Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:37:22pm |
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:37:27pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:37:45pm |
re: #116 albusteve
he already has with his 'saved the economy' meme, with regard to bogus and misleading unemployment/saved jobs numbers...but in terms of terrorism you may be right...presidents have to rely on somebody to tell them what's up
I don't believe he's saved the economy yet. In Portland, i'm anecdotally noticing some things getting better, a lot of my unemployed friends are scoring interviews and getting hired. But I'll believe it when I see it, it's far too early to tell. I'm pissed off that Obama hasn't taken the foreclosure crisis on the way economists have been saying he should. We'll find out in 2012 what the country thinks!
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Crimsonfisted Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:38:02pm |
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Blueheron Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:38:49pm |
re: #115 WindUpBird
Uh, I'm also referring to the GOP's party stance on this. The actual official responses coming from luminaries and operatives in the party. The stance is INSTANT OUTRAGE!!11 about Obama's response, which is by the way half the time it took Bush to respond to the shoe bomber. he's doing very little differently from Bush security-wise, across the board, he's escalating in Afghanistan, hes got operatives in yemen, he's doing it right, but you got Dick Cheney and others who are just whining and bloviating every second of every day. It's sleazy and craven politics, and it makes Republicans look petty and infantile.
Once again, IOKIYAR.
Just like the ones who called Bush and Cheney the 'appointed ones'?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:38:57pm |
re: #125 Shiplord Kirel
I can't believe what a horse's ass Armey has turned out to be. I actually knew him back in the 80s when he was the only person at North Texas State who was to the right of me politically. He seemed like a very smart and decent guy then. Now he's just a shill and not even a very good one, since nobody outside the choir will listen to his sermon.
I'm sure he's a decent guy to his friends! Just awful for the health of the country, stoking the fires of these lunatics and paranoids.
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Digital Display Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:38:57pm |
re: #118 Walter L. Newton
I'll invite you to my funeral after I drop dead from exhaustion.
Can you Teleconference the funeral?
Wink.. I'm happy for you
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Killgore Trout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:38:59pm |
re: #132 albusteve
excellent!...just nice...debt free is an awesome thing, good for you
I'm really looking forward to the prospect of living completely debt free once I get rid of my mortgage. It will be freedom that not many people get to experience.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:39:12pm |
re: #124 Stanley Sea
It would be the ultimate test for me to come home from work empty handed. Good luck!!
Thanks... I get first dibs on stuff coming in if I see something I want, company gives 30 percent off, but I can't price the item myself, I have to have a supervisor or manager price it, then I can buy it.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:39:18pm |
repost
Cooder at his very best, imo
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solomonpanting Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:39:45pm |
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:39:56pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:40:02pm |
re: #127 Killgore Trout
Finally got your bookkeeping done?
Congratulations & on the results!
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:40:50pm |
re: #140 Killgore Trout
I'm really looking forward to the prospect of living completely debt free once I get rid of my mortgage. It will be freedom that not many people get to experience.
I probably like cars too much to ever truly be debt free. But I'm close to paying off the Volvo, which fills me with giddiness.
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Blueheron Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:42:21pm |
re: #125 Shiplord Kirel
I can't believe what a horse's ass Armey has turned out to be. I actually knew him back in the 80s when he was the only person at North Texas State who was to the right of me politically. He seemed like a very smart and decent guy then. Now he's just a shill and not even a very good one, since nobody outside the choir will listen to his sermon.
I'm sorry to hear that because I have always liked Dick Armey. I haven't followed what he is doing lately but will take your word for it.
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:42:28pm |
re: #104 darthstar
You can't be at war with an idea/movement/powerful emotion (terror is, after all, just a powerful emotion). You can work to change public opinion so the movement dies, but that isn't something you can accomplish with force.
Treating Islamic terrorism as a criminal matter? It's been done.
As to the nature of terrorism, let me respectfully suggest that it isn't just somebody flying off the handle, consumed with a real or imagined historical grievance. Some people AND ideas really are evil.
Mr Bush, speaking to an audience of children, addressed the question that everyone has asked: "Why would somebody hate so badly"? And he replied: "my answer is, there's evil in the world. But we can overcome evil. We're good." This is the simple truth — a truth on which all our futures depend — yet the moment Mr Bush uttered it, all the intellectuals in the Western world winced. Even those who, like myself, agreed with the proposition, winced, vicariously, because we recognised the intensity of the taboo that was being broken.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:42:30pm |
re: #129 Stuart Leviton
Hang on bro'. You gotta get to Paris. Hoosier and I envy that trip. Seriously, glad you got a job. You're a talented man!
Thanks.
I will miss being involved with live theatre, but this is retail, and my rotating schedule would get in the way of even my helping out part time at the theatre I was working with. Right now, theatre wise, I'll have my playwriting and publish plays to keep my foot in the "theatre door," that'll work for now.
And yes, I will be saving toward some time in Paris, and at least I have a job that pays enough for me to actually save something.
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Crimsonfisted Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:42:58pm |
re: #143 solomonpanting
Heh. Was that a wry Cooter joke?
Pumpernickel actually.
I read it at first, and thought that Cooter guy and KNEW I had to have read it wrong.
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:42:59pm |
re: #141 Walter L. Newton
Walter, I'm really impressed with the things you've said about your new job. The pricing strategy, work smarter not harder. Trying to avoid accidents. All sound like you found a super place to work!
I'm happy for you.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:43:10pm |
re: #146 WindUpBird
I'll drive a second hand beater into the ground. If it has 4 wheels and makes "vroom vroom" sounds I'm happy.
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Crimsonfisted Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:43:30pm |
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Sheila Broflovski Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:44:14pm |
re: #127 Killgore Trout
I finished my year end accounting and things look pretty damn good. No debt (aside from my mortgage) and i'm flush with a decent amount of cash. With a little bit of luck I'll even be free from a mortgage in 7 months or so.
That's great!
I have no debt, but the bad news is I have no cash either. The Zionist checks aren't what they used to be.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:44:39pm |
more Cooder...Jesus on the Mainline (same gig)...playing an electric mando
"you can call him up and tell him what you want!"
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:44:45pm |
re: #146 WindUpBird
I probably like cars too much to ever truly be debt free. But I'm close to paying off the Volvo, which fills me with giddiness.
I have a 1998 Chevy Prizm 4 door, which is actually a Toyota, with only 82,000 miles. It's been paid off for 7 years, and that little Toyota engine just keep on purring on. Even in below zero nights like we get up here in the Rockies, it starts right up and the interior is warm with in 2-4 miles of driving. Front wheel drive, does better in the snow than most small cars.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:45:33pm |
re: #140 Killgore Trout
I'm really looking forward to the prospect of living completely debt free once I get rid of my mortgage. It will be freedom that not many people get to experience.
I have no debt...it's a hell of a buzz
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:45:40pm |
re: #151 Floral Giraffe
Walter, I'm really impressed with the things you've said about your new job. The pricing strategy, work smarter not harder. Trying to avoid accidents. All sound like you found a super place to work!
I'm happy for you.
Thanks. But I will admit, the physical nature of the job is a little more than I'm use to, but I should be ok. It can only be good for me.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:46:12pm |
re: #152 Killgore Trout
I'll drive a second hand beater into the ground. If it has 4 wheels and makes "vroom vroom" sounds I'm happy.
The operator's manual for my 35 yr old daily driver has a chapter on destroying it to prevent its capture and use.
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Crimsonfisted Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:47:53pm |
re: #157 albusteve
I have no debt...it's a hell of a buzz
You.are.evil.
(brought it on myself but still...)
You.are.evil.
My jealousy cannot be contained. You have turned my brown eyes green.
ALBUSTEVE!!!!!
/Capt Kirk KAHN voice off
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:47:54pm |
re: #119 Stuart Leviton
Heck, they should just declare tonight Taj night - and maybe toss in some david romburg, leo kotke, jon renbourne, bert jansch, among countless others). In other words, bring 'em on!
How about some nice soothing violin music? ;D
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Digital Display Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:48:23pm |
re: #158 Walter L. Newton
Thanks. But I will admit, the physical nature of the job is a little more than I'm use to, but I should be ok. It can only be good for me.
A challenge is just that..A challenge...There is no easy win.. Go for it Walter!
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:49:37pm |
my beater...it will beat your car
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:50:36pm |
re: #140 Killgore Trout
I'm really looking forward to the prospect of living completely debt free once I get rid of my mortgage. It will be freedom that not many people get to experience.
I'm debt free and have been for years (thanks more to generous relatives than any super-thriftiness on my part). I highly recommend it! Thing to remember is, when you get the mortgage paid off, keep paying it! Only to yourself, in a savings account or mutual fund.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:50:53pm |
re: #85 darthstar
Because it makes the current calls for the Christmas Bomber to be sent to Guantanamo Bay sound somewhat hypocritical...
We tried Reid, we tried Moussaoui, it worked fine. Gitmo was a convenience for a specific time and place. Not a whole new plan for dealing with terror suspects.
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darthstar Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:51:14pm |
re: #120 Blueheron
Obama is Joe Cool so that is just exactly the way he would respond...but then again no one has knocked over buildings on his watch. Maybe if they had he would respond similarly as Bush. But with more eloquence of course.
Let's agree that neither of us want the president to have to respond to buildings being knocked over. Once is enough.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:51:35pm |
re: #164 The Sanity Inspector
I'm debt free and have been for years (thanks more to generous relatives than any super-thriftiness on my part). I highly recommend it! Thing to remember is, when you get the mortgage paid off, keep paying it! Only to yourself, in a savings account or mutual fund.
man that's too hard...I rob banks
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Killgore Trout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:51:41pm |
Thou shalt not post TSA memos.....
Feds Subpoena Bloggers For Posting TSA Security Memo
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Blueheron Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:51:52pm |
re: #166 darthstar
Let's agree that neither of us want the president to have to respond to buildings being knocked over. Once is enough.
Agreed.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:53:33pm |
re: #97 sandbox
Really. Only we are at war with a movement. Sorry your rule book doesn't cover that contingency.
No one's rule book covers that contingency. However, the precedent established during the previous administration, which I think has worked pretty well, is that we treat POWs or people picked up overseas differently than people arrested in the U.S.
I don't see a solid reason for changing that now, and that applies to both KSM and Mr. Fruit of the Boom.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:54:30pm |
For those who still get their "news" from Fox.....
Glad To See Fox Is On The Case
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miclaine Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:54:40pm |
re: #166 darthstar
Darth - love the logo/avatar - it was 30 years ago this week that I saw my one and only new year's show in oakland.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:54:57pm |
re: #164 The Sanity Inspector
Good advice.
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:55:08pm |
re: #158 Walter L. Newton
Thanks. But I will admit, the physical nature of the job is a little more than I'm use to, but I should be ok. It can only be good for me.
Stock up on Advil.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:56:09pm |
re: #117 allegro
Running outside to plant a Victory Garden.
Oh dear. I'd forgotten about that. Shortly after 9/11, I saw a link to an article about how to plant a victory garden. Interested, since my perception had not been that we were really going to a wartime economy, I clicked on it.
It was all about having a red white and blue theme in flowerbeds.
Someone misunderstood the concept.
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Varek Raith Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:56:21pm |
re: #172 Killgore Trout
For those who still get their "news" from Fox...
Glad To See Fox Is On The Case
Facepalm, Fox News, facepalm...
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:56:46pm |
re: #162 HoosierHoops
A challenge is just that..A challenge...There is no easy win.. Go for it Walter!
I intend too. Thanks. I rarely do anything halfway. Besides, I am going to have some real funny thrift store stories to tell you in the future. I already have found a lot of humor in both the employees and the customers.
Like the 30 year old platinum blond from Russia who works in production sorting, pricing and hanging clothes. For the last two days she has worn a bright red full ski outfit, furry collar and all. The warehouse is not that cold.
And when she starts talking with that Russian accent, in that outfit and the bleached platinum hair she reminds me of some James Bond Girl from some early Bond movie.
What is she doing dressed like that? Was that the only thing she was able to abscond with when she left Russia?
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allegro Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:57:09pm |
re: #176 SanFranciscoZionist
It was all about having a red white and blue theme in flowerbeds.
*facepalm*
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:58:22pm |
re: #168 Killgore Trout
Thou shalt not post TSA memos...
Feds Subpoena Bloggers For Posting TSA Security Memo
I once found a TSA badge pass in the lost and found at my place of work. I dropped it in the mailbox & hoped the owner got a good what-for from his supe.
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solomonpanting Wed, Dec 30, 2009 4:59:16pm |
A recent project from the shop.
I call it "Leftovers."
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darthstar Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:00:15pm |
re: #173 miclaine
Darth - love the logo/avatar - it was 30 years ago this week that I saw my one and only new year's show in oakland.
New Year's shows were always my favorite. Loved the Bill Graham floats that descended from the ceiling, and things like the bungee jumpers in diapers dropping from the ceiling at NYE 91 as 'the baby new year'...I usually went to all four shows, but found that taking the third night off left me with more energy for the long New Year's gig.
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TheMatrix31 Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:01:19pm |
re: #172 Killgore Trout
Uh, they DID know. Doesn't make it a conspiracy though. DailyKos? Really?
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Decatur Deb Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:01:44pm |
re: #182 Floral Giraffe
Yeah. Ex-Belgian army radio truck via eBay.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:02:30pm |
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Killgore Trout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:02:38pm |
re: #186 TheMatrix31
Uh, they DID know.
In the same sense that Bush knew about 9-11 before hand, yes.
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miclaine Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:02:49pm |
re: #184 darthstar
So - Furthur this year or just a quiet NYE? We will hang in Chicagoland as my kids now do the touring, festivals and what not.
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Stuart Leviton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:03:28pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:03:36pm |
Someday, I really want to have a Monterey Clipper.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:04:22pm |
re: #191 solomonpanting
Nautical talk--very trim, tight, and shipshape.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:04:35pm |
and of course, the ultimate Hiatt....a rocker at heart paying his dues
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:05:48pm |
re: #181 solomonpanting
A recent project from the shop.
I call it "Leftovers."
Lovely! You might enjoy this firm: [Link: www.triptrap.dk...]
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Varek Raith Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:05:48pm |
re: #191 solomonpanting
Trig?
Definition from dictionary.com
trig
–adjective Chiefly British.
1. neat, trim, smart, or spruce.
2. in good physical condition; sound; well.
–verb (used with object)
3. Chiefly British Dialect. to make trim, smart, etc. (often fol. by up or out).
:)
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wrenchwench Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:05:52pm |
re: #195 albusteve
Good timing. That post came up 5 seconds before "Cry Love" ended...
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Stuart Leviton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:06:27pm |
re: #149 Walter L. Newton
Thanks.
I will miss being involved with live theatre, but this is retail, and my rotating schedule would get in the way of even my helping out part time at the theatre I was working with. Right now, theatre wise, I'll have my playwriting and publish plays to keep my foot in the "theatre door," that'll work for now.
And yes, I will be saving toward some time in Paris, and at least I have a job that pays enough for me to actually save something.
Best on the playwriting. You're a kind soul among your many other qualities.
... and best on being able to pay bills and breathe too.
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SixDegrees Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:06:38pm |
re: #168 Killgore Trout
Thou shalt not post TSA memos...
Feds Subpoena Bloggers For Posting TSA Security Memo
This is bullshit that won't stand. The United States emphatically does NOT have anything like an Official Secrets Act. People working with classified or otherwise restricted material sign contracts and are granted access with the understanding that violating the terms of their contract and disclosing information may result in fines and imprisonment. But if those people are careless (or malicious) and leave stuff lying around where an ordinary citizen can pick it up, said citizen is under no such restrictions and is free to do whatever they want with the material - including publishing it.
Threatening to "sit outside your house until you tell us who gave you the information" is pure harassment, as I'm sure the bloggers know, and an attorney will have a field day with the TSA assholes making such intimidating threats. If they want such information, they're free to get a court order compelling it's release, but they can't camp out on someone's curb and stare at them or otherwise interfere with their lives.
It's extremely disturbing to hear that people who are supposed to be involved with matters of national security have such a poor understanding of basic legal principles and would resort to such infantile tactics.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:08:41pm |
re: #198 wrenchwench
Good timing. That post came up 5 seconds before "Cry Love" ended...
I love that song with a passion...yep
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:09:04pm |
re: #184 darthstar
New Year's shows were always my favorite. Loved the Bill Graham floats that descended from the ceiling, and things like the bungee jumpers in diapers dropping from the ceiling at NYE 91 as 'the baby new year'...I usually went to all four shows, but found that taking the third night off left me with more energy for the long New Year's gig.
Darthstar: You might enjoy this slideshow I made of Jerry Garcia's 1995 wake in Atlanta's Piedmont Park. Other newbies too, oldtimers have doubtless seen it already, as often as I've linked it here.
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Stuart Leviton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:10:00pm |
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:11:51pm |
re: #199 Stuart Leviton
Best on the playwriting. You're a kind soul among your many other qualities.
... and best on being able to pay bills and breathe too.
I am doing something performing wise New Years Eve which I haven't done in a few years, I am doing my comedy magic act at a bed and breakfast in Manitou Springs, Colorado.
I use to perform much more regularly when I was younger. Not as much time (or ambition) for it anymore.
It's a trade off for room and board tomorrow night. The girlfriend and I have to get back by Friday morning, since I it's back to business. This thrift store is not closed on New Years Day.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:12:09pm |
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wrenchwench Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:12:24pm |
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allegro Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:13:01pm |
re: #202 The Sanity Inspector
Ohhh, that's beautiful. Thanks for sharing that... brings back a lot of sweet memories.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:13:36pm |
re: #103 WindUpBird
I don't believe for a moment that the vast majority of Republicans would be wigging out about civilian courts during a Reublican administration.
Because they didn't.
Where was the outrage about Moussaoui? about Richard Ried? There was none. Because It's Okay If You're A Republican.
Only problem is that Ried and Moussaoui weren't captured on the battlefield. They were arrested in the US IIRC. Horse of a different color.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:15:43pm |
re: #208 rwdflynavy
Only problem is that Ried and Moussaoui weren't captured on the battlefield. They were arrested in the US IIRC. Horse of a different color.
So was this latest guy.
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rurality Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:15:52pm |
re: #208 rwdflynavy
what battlefield was the panty bomber captured on?
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darthstar Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:16:27pm |
re: #190 miclaine
So - Furthur this year or just a quiet NYE? We will hang in Chicagoland as my kids now do the touring, festivals and what not.
I thought about Furthur, but I'm up in Tahoe for the week skiing instead. Will go see Durango Bones tomorrow night at Garwood's (we had them play at our wedding in August in Mill Valley...they play a number of dead tunes along with the usual covers Eagles, Buffet, David Gray, America, etc...lots of fun to see, and we see them frequently throughout ski season).
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:17:17pm |
re: #206 wrenchwench
How about a little George Duke, with a little number co-written by one C. Johnson:
[Video]
omygosh!...
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prairiefire Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:18:12pm |
re: #118 Walter L. Newton
I'll invite you to my funeral after I drop dead from exhaustion.
Pace yourself. I know they went over all that with you in training. I know support socks aren't very manly, but they might help if you start getting varicose veins.
: )
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wrenchwench Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:18:50pm |
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prairiefire Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:19:01pm |
re: #122 Decatur Deb
War footing is when many sons of major politicians twist the rules to get into the military, taxes are raised to support the effort, and daily life is disrupted "for the duration". This is something else.
Well said. I think I will favorite that.
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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:19:02pm |
After looking at more of the evidence and reading Texas Tech's statement on the Leach affair, I have decided to hold my nose and come down on the side of the administration in this. Hance, Bailey, and Myers (chancellor, president and AD respectively) may well be as nefarious and ruthless as the fans claim; but for that reason alone they would be unlikely to get rid of a winning coach unless they believed the facts left them no choice.
It is well-known that Gerald Myers in particular has a personality conflict with Leach but Myers would scarcely let his feelings sabotage a winning program in his own department. Hell, to the best of my knowledge, Myers doesn't have any feelings.
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miclaine Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:19:48pm |
re: #211 darthstar
Got Furthur tix from kids for xmas for chicago in March. I have heard that their shows are terrific. Will have to download some from archive.org in the coming weeks. Have a great time skiing!
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:19:59pm |
Just because:
10 points if you can guess the author WITHOUT using the Googles. (trivia: this was written right around the time of the Iranian revolution that installed the Islamic Republic, which did in fact ban all music for a time.)
Desperate nerds in high offices all over the world have been known to enact the most disgusting pieces of legislation in order to win votes (or, in places where they don't get to vote, to control unwanted forms of mass behavior).
Environmental laws were not passed to protect our air and water ... they were passed to get votes. Seasonal anti-smut campaigns are not conducted to rid our communities of moral rot ... they are conducted to give an aura of saintliness to the office-seekers who demand them. If a few key phrases are thrown into any speech (as the expert advisors explain to these various heads of state) votes will roll in, bucks will roll in, and, most importantly, power will be maintained by the groovy guy (or gal) who gets the most media coverage for his sleaze. Naturally, his friends in various businesses will do okay too.
All governments perpetuate themselves through the daily commission of acts which a rational person might find to be stupid or dangerous (or both). Naturally, our government is no exception ... for instance, if the President (any one of them) went on TV and sat there with the flag in the background (or maybe a rustic scene on a little backdrop, plus the flag) and stared sincerely into the camera and told everybody that all energy problems and all inflationary problems had been traced to and could be solved by the abolition of MUSIC, chances are that most people would believe him and think that the illegalization of this obnoxious form of noise pollution would be a small price to pay for the chance to buy gas like the good ol' days. No way? Never happen? Records are made out of oil. All those big rock shows go from town to town in fuel-gobbling 45-foot trucks ... and when they get there, they use up enormous amounts of electrical energy with their lights, their amplifiers, their PA systems ... their smoke machines. And all those synthesizers ... look at all the plastic they got in 'em ... and the guitar picks ... you name it ...
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:20:34pm |
re: #214 prairiefire
Pace yourself. I know they went over all that with you in training. I know support socks aren't very manly, but they might help if you start getting varicose veins.
: )
Ok, now you all got me hobbling and the next thing you'll find for me is a crutch... I'm not that unfit... :)
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:21:20pm |
re: #215 wrenchwench
New to you?
the vid yes, not G Duke...pretty cool....I don't know why I'm chuckling...the suit maybe?
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Linden Arden Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:21:26pm |
White House smackdown of Cheney-
To put it simply: this president is not interested in bellicose rhetoric, he is focused on action. Seven years of bellicose rhetoric failed to reduce the threat from al Qaeda and succeeded in dividing this country. And it seems strangely off-key now, at a time when our country is under attack, for the architect of those policies to be attacking the president.
[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]
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Stuart Leviton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:21:32pm |
re: #161 The Sanity Inspector
How about some nice soothing violin music? ;D
[Video]
Wow. From Ry Cooder to this. 'Tis a delightful musical education tonight courteousy of lgf. Here's a piece by Frederico Mompou. It's likely fairly tame.
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:22:22pm |
re: #217 Shiplord Kirel
I'm chuckling again!
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wrenchwench Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:22:56pm |
re: #221 albusteve
the vid yes, not G Duke...pretty cool...I don't know why I'm chuckling...the suit maybe?
Can't beat white bell bottoms!
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prairiefire Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:25:30pm |
re: #162 HoosierHoops
Hi Hoosier, I posted this on the last thread, but, have you seen the sports movie The Rookie with Dennis Quaid?
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Stuart Leviton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:26:10pm |
re: #165 SanFranciscoZionist
We tried Reid, we tried Moussaoui, it worked fine. Gitmo was a convenience for a specific time and place. Not a whole new plan for dealing with terror suspects.
Ah, but have you tried Lou Reed?
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Racer X Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:26:22pm |
re: #223 Linden Arden
Seven years of bellicose rhetoric failed to reduce the threat from al Qaeda and succeeded in dividing this country.
Um, several (hundred?) thousand DEAD Jihadis would disagree.
I miss George Bush, and Dick Cheney. Leaders with balls.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:26:25pm |
re: #200 SixDegrees
I think there are exceptions on issues of national security. You couldn't steal plans for a nuclear bomb from los alamos and post them on the web. I think posting airport security measures does nothing except aid the terrorists. It's irresponsible at best and treasonous at worst.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:26:37pm |
re: #209 SanFranciscoZionist
So was this latest guy.
Yep and he should be tried in the US. Miranda should apply. Now those captured on a battlefield shooting US troops, they aren't criminals, they are enemy combatants and should not be tried in the US. They should be tried by military tribunals.
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avanti Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:26:43pm |
A good comparison of the reaction to the shoe bomber compared to the underwear bomber.
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Linden Arden Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:27:41pm |
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allegro Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:28:45pm |
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Digital Display Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:29:10pm |
re: #228 prairiefire
Hi Hoosier, I posted this on the last thread, but, have you seen the sports movie The Rookie with Dennis Quaid?
Yes I did my friend....I've seen almost every sports movie made by Man..
Hope you are well..I'm Tivo'ing Hustle&Flow right now...The only movie in the world that made Bill O'Reilly's brain blow up!
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wrenchwench Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:29:37pm |
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:29:43pm |
re: #233 avanti
A good comparison of the reaction to the shoe bomber compared to the underwear bomber.
Well of course the GOP is playing politics with this... is this something new? Is this unusual, for either side... come on... face reality... it's par for the course. I don't see the issue.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:30:16pm |
re: #222 prairiefire
Is that bootleg?
no, well sort of...someone stole some master tapes, mixed and ready to go...they stole the music and returned the tapes to the vault...years later someone splices like 18 song together and put them on the net...whoever did this called it 'Acetates'...a friend of mine found it and copied it for me and since then the whole shebang is off the net, altho that's never quite true?
anyway all the songs are remixes and covers and some new stuff, vintage around 'Goats Head Soup' and the mythical Beatles collaboration on drift Away is what I posted...that song has been up on youtube for years...but none of any of it was released...when it was sent to me I about had a stroke...a brand new album from 77-78 or so...wow!...the rest of it for the most part is excellent, and there are a couple of cuts that are just flat out super good...that's all I know, maybe google has more
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solomonpanting Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:30:42pm |
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:31:09pm |
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Stuart Leviton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:31:59pm |
re: #171 albusteveWow. I devoted myself to something years ago which meant I would live in poverty, happy but poor - actually living in a monastery. Haven't listened to good music in so long. This John Hiatt is great. Thank you for having posted it in your #171.
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Linden Arden Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:32:28pm |
re: #230 Racer X
Um, several (hundred?) thousand DEAD Jihadis would disagree.
I miss George Bush, and Dick Cheney. Leaders with balls.
We disagree. That is cool.
I prefer to keep our 4200 military dead and $800 billion over the several thousand dead jihadists in Mesopotamia.
Cheers - disagreement is sometimes fruitful.
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Sheila Broflovski Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:33:04pm |
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Stuart Leviton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:33:24pm |
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avanti Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:34:44pm |
re: #239 Walter L. Newton
Well of course the GOP is playing politics with this... is this something new? Is this unusual, for either side... come on... face reality... it's par for the course. I don't see the issue.
I agree, but in this case, no one made a issue of Bush response. BTW, I think both made the correct response.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:34:46pm |
re: #243 Stuart Leviton
Wow. I devoted myself to something years ago which meant I would live in poverty, happy but poor - actually living in a monastery. Haven't listened to good music in so long. This John Hiatt is great. Thank you for having posted it in your #171.
you are welcome...there is lots of Hiatt stuff out there...a personal favorite of mine
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allegro Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:35:05pm |
re: #242 albusteve
Polyester!
Heh. I can't hear that word anymore without thinking of a Navajo friend of mine many years ago whose name was Velvet. When asked how she got her name, she would tell the story of her mother wearing a black velvet dress that she cherished that her husband had given to her, that she was wearing the night she conceived. Velvet expressed tremendous gratitude that the dress hadn't been made of polyester.
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SixDegrees Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:35:19pm |
re: #231 Killgore Trout
I think there are exceptions on issues of national security. You couldn't steal plans for a nuclear bomb from los alamos and post them on the web. I think posting airport security measures does nothing except aid the terrorists. It's irresponsible at best and treasonous at worst.
If you steal the plans, you're guilty of theft. If you're part of the classified program that safeguards them and you leave them lying around in the open, you're going to Leavenworth. If you're some schlub who finds them lying around on a park bench, there's no penalty if you distribute them. Once again, the US does NOT have anything like an Official Secrets Act which enjoins those not involved in secure programs to protect the material generated by those programs.
I agree that it's stupid and irresponsible. However, it is not illegal in and of itself. And the TSA ought to know better. In fact, they shouldn't be squatting in someone's front yard in the first place, as far as I know; I don't believe that's within their jurisdiction, and is something the FBI ought to be handling.
Obviously, someone other than the particular idiot TSA agents attempting to handle it ought to be in charge, because all they're doing is opening themselves to a lawsuit.
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Girth Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:35:36pm |
Hoekstra wants to be governor, and he's not above using this to line his coffers:
[Link: politics.theatlantic.com...]
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:35:42pm |
re: #247 avanti
I agree, but in this case, no one made a issue of Bush response. BTW, I think both made the correct response.
Understood. Didn't do it this time, did it some other time, it goes back and forth all the time. You know that.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:35:52pm |
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avanti Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:36:21pm |
re: #252 Walter L. Newton
Understood. Didn't do it this time, did it some other time, it goes back and forth all the time. You know that.
On that we agree.
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solomonpanting Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:36:26pm |
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andres Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:36:31pm |
re: #77 Shiplord Kirel
Wingnut bloggers might pay good money for evidence like that.
Lack of evidence hasn't stop wingnuts before.
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Bear Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:36:49pm |
re: #193 SanFranciscoZionist
Monterey Clipper. You talking about the old wooden fish boats that were so common at Fisherman's Wharf?
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Olsonist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:36:59pm |
re: #230 Racer X
Um, several (hundred?) thousand DEAD Jihadis would disagree.
I miss George Bush, and Dick Cheney. Leaders with balls.
Dick and W would send this guy back to his country of origin for art therapy. Fact is this guy is already talking and he's an easy prosecution. The Reptiles are apoplectic not out of concern but out of partisanship.
It's good to have adults in charge again.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:38:12pm |
re: #249 allegro
Heh. I can't hear that word anymore without thinking of a Navajo friend of mine many years ago whose name was Velvet. When asked how she got her name, she would tell the story of her mother wearing a black velvet dress that she cherished that her husband had given to her, that she was wearing the night she conceived. Velvet expressed tremendous gratitude that the dress hadn't been made of polyester.
remembering clothes you wore the night you conceived is remarkable...so much for hemp fabrics
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RogueOne Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:38:27pm |
Drive-by post. Just saw this on the consumerist and it reminded me of the conversation in the morning thread:
[Link: consumerist.com...]
David and his wife got stuck with one of HP's lemon laptops, and since the repairs just kept involving more faulty parts, they weren't solving the real problem. Here's how he eventually got a brand new laptop--different model--from HP.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:39:15pm |
re: #256 andres
Lack of evidence hasn't stop wingnuts before.
nor anybody else with an agenda....just like you
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Stuart Leviton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:39:23pm |
re: #185 wrenchwench
More Hiatt: Cry Love
Double wow. Never heard that before either. Great mandolin. Great disparity of moods. I was wondering what the song meant to you as it is so powerful.
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Racer X Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:39:33pm |
re: #244 Linden Arden
We disagree. That is cool.
I prefer to keep our 4200 military dead and $800 billion over the several thousand dead jihadists in Mesopotamia.
Cheers - disagreement is sometimes fruitful.
I'm cool with that.
Part of me thinks that one or two of those now dead Jihadis could have very well murdered a bunch of innocent Americans, much like the Fruit of the Boom™ guy (I love that name!) recently tried to do. And they never got a chance to.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:40:38pm |
re: #258 Olsonist
Dick and W would send this guy back to his country of origin for art therapy. Fact is this guy is already talking and he's an easy prosecution. The Reptiles are apoplectic not out of concern but out of partisanship.
It's good to have adults in charge again.
I agree. And I wish Obama would close Gitmo like he promised.
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prairiefire Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:41:22pm |
"Growing up I thought my house was haunted cause no one ever said "Boo" to me......"
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Racer X Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:41:43pm |
re: #266 Walter L. Newton
I agree. And I wish Obama would close Gitmo like he promised.
I'm wondering why he doesn't?
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Linden Arden Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:42:04pm |
re: #238 wrenchwench
Fixed that for me. Those things are torture!
When I hear "American Exceptionalism" I think of women's breasts.
Is that not politically correct?
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Gearhead Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:43:02pm |
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Stuart Leviton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:43:34pm |
re: #248 albusteve
you are welcome...there is lots of Hiatt stuff out there...a personal favorite of mine
I can see why.
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darthstar Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:43:41pm |
re: #232 rwdflynavy
Yep and he should be tried in the US. Miranda should apply. Now those captured on a battlefield shooting US troops, they aren't criminals, they are enemy combatants and should not be tried in the US. They should be tried by military tribunals.
I can agree with that distinction.
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Racer X Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:43:42pm |
re: #258 Olsonist
Dick and W would send this guy back to his country of origin for art therapy. Fact is this guy is already talking and he's an easy prosecution. The Reptiles are apoplectic not out of concern but out of partisanship.
It's good to have adults in charge again.
Change is good. The Obama administration scares the hell out of me. Spending like crazy, and it seems to me Obama does not treat this like a war. I sure hope the Jihadis unclench like he wants them to.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:44:12pm |
re: #265 prairiefire
Thanks, it sounded great.
my daughter has memorized the lyrics...she claims she will hum the tune when she tosses my ashes off onto the New Mexico mesas...sweet
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Digital Display Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:44:14pm |
re: #260 prairiefire
Da pimps and the ho's.
I thought when It's hard out here for a pimp Won an Oscar for best song..Awesome
I was just kicking back in a Hotel in Santa Clara.. And Bill O'Reilly was having a heart Attack.. You can't have more fun then that..
/
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sagehen Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:44:54pm |
re: #135 WindUpBird
I don't believe he's saved the economy yet. In Portland, i'm anecdotally noticing some things getting better, a lot of my unemployed friends are scoring interviews and getting hired. But I'll believe it when I see it, it's far too early to tell. I'm pissed off that Obama hasn't taken the foreclosure crisis on the way economists have been saying he should. We'll find out in 2012 what the country thinks!
He saved the banking system, which a year ago a lot of people didn't think was doable... so that's something.
Sadly, many pundits and elected officials (and other people who still have their jobs) think that's somehow "saving the economy."
Move Your Money:
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:45:12pm |
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:46:13pm |
re: #268 Racer X
I'm wondering why he doesn't?
I don't know. He promised not to cut any deals with big pharma and the insurance companies, he promise single payer, government option, he promised to close gitmo, he promised to stop renditions all together... I could go on. None of those promises have been kept. I'm waiting for the adults to start acting like adults.
But I agree, we have adults in charge now.
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SixDegrees Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:47:28pm |
re: #268 Racer X
I'm wondering why he doesn't?
It's hard.
Things are slowly moving in the direction of closure, complicated by the fact that no one is willing to take any of the detainees off our hands. Ultimately, it looks as though roughly half the total will wind up being transfered to some location in the US, possibly a newly-renovated maximum security prison in Illinois that has never been put to full use, or perhaps somewhere else.
Which will accomplish the promise to "close" Gitmo, but leaves things pretty much unchanged from a legal and moral point of view from where they have always been, particularly with Holder's announcement that detainees will remain incarcerated indefinitely, even if tried and found not guilty of any crimes. Which you would think should have not just the Left, but practically every right-thinking person in the country up in arms. But we're not there yet, I guess.
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wrenchwench Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:47:30pm |
re: #263 Stuart Leviton
Double wow. Never heard that before either. Great mandolin. Great disparity of moods. I was wondering what the song meant to you as it is so powerful.
I guess it doesn't mean anything specific to me. Hiatt is such a good songwriter. He writes a story, with well-rounded characters, who seem like real people, and the emotions are real.
And now, I'm going to sign off with something different. I've posted it before, maybe I'm stuck in a rut, but this gives me a kick every time I watch it.
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Olsonist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:47:50pm |
re: #266 Walter L. Newton
Totally agreed. My guess is as soon as this Illinois prison comes on line that will happen. The vast majority of the locals would love the jobs and the boost for the economy.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:47:52pm |
re: #276 sagehen
He saved the banking system, which a year ago a lot of people didn't think was doable... so that's something.
Sadly, many pundits and elected officials (and other people who still have their jobs) think that's somehow "saving the economy."
Move Your Money:
[Video]
oh please...TARP originated in the Bush admin...BO voted for it as a senator...'he saved the banking system' is laughable and untrue...shirley you jest
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Racer X Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:49:10pm |
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:49:54pm |
re: #278 Walter L. Newton
I don't know. He promised not to cut any deals with big pharma and the insurance companies, he promise single payer, government option, he promised to close gitmo, he promised to stop renditions all together... I could go on. None of those promises have been kept. I'm waiting for the adults to start acting like adults.
But I agree, we have adults in charge now.
with regard to his campaign, BO is a total fraud...he misled or lied to his voters on many issues...but they all do that eh?
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:50:17pm |
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SixDegrees Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:50:59pm |
re: #279 SixDegrees
It's hard.
Things are slowly moving in the direction of closure, complicated by the fact that no one is willing to take any of the detainees off our hands. Ultimately, it looks as though roughly half the total will wind up being transfered to some location in the US, possibly a newly-renovated maximum security prison in Illinois that has never been put to full use, or perhaps somewhere else.
Which will accomplish the promise to "close" Gitmo, but leaves things pretty much unchanged from a legal and moral point of view from where they have always been, particularly with Holder's announcement that detainees will remain incarcerated indefinitely, even if tried and found not guilty of any crimes. Which you would think should have not just the Left, but practically every right-thinking person in the country up in arms. But we're not there yet, I guess.
Note that the original plan - shuttling detainees off to far-flung destinations scattered around the globe, to be detained without trial for indefinite periods of time - wasn't so much a closure of Gitmo as a dispersal of the problem, depriving critics of a focal point while retaining all the problems Gitmo raised in the first place. Now, at least, the establishment of "Gitmo North" makes things a bit clearer and reveals this as a shell game rather than a solution.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:51:04pm |
re: #235 Linden Arden
I fear the underwire bra bomber.
One of my friends was held by Heathrow security for three hours before it occurred to them to ask if American bras had metal underwires.
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RogueOne Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:51:26pm |
re: #258 Olsonist
Dick and W would send this guy back to his country of origin for art therapy. Fact is this guy is already talking and he's an easy prosecution. The Reptiles are apoplectic not out of concern but out of partisanship.
It's good to have adults in charge again.
I wish people would get this out of their heads. He isn't talking and he's probably never going to tell us shit now that he has an atty. Telling us he came out here to blow up a plane and there are more coming is called boasting not debriefing.
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darthstar Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:51:49pm |
re: #286 Racer X
How can you tell when a politician is lying?
The media reports him word for word without question.
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RogueOne Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:52:29pm |
Now that I've killed the whole "he's speaking freely" meme, I gotta run.//
play nice folks.
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Racer X Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:53:09pm |
re: #289 RogueOne
I wish people would get this out of their heads. He isn't talking and he's probably never going to tell us shit now that he has an atty. Telling us he came out here to blow up a plane and there are more coming is called boasting not debriefing.
This dude is now all lawyered-up with ACLU types who could care less about national security.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:53:11pm |
re: #257 Bear
Monterey Clipper. You talking about the old wooden fish boats that were so common at Fisherman's Wharf?
Yep. Those.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:53:13pm |
re: #290 darthstar
The media reports him word for word without question.
words go on record...either you tell the truth or you don't, the MSM can't change that
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:53:32pm |
re: #261 RogueOne
I had a bad Dell desktop. After over 40 hours of "problem solving" with the online techs, I started googling. I eventually found what was supposedly Michael Dell's email, it matched the customer service reps format. I emailed the forwarded chain of tech emails & the sent a new, upgraded PC the next day. Oh, and refunded $500 with a check, when I returned the defective machine.
It wasn't worth the effort.
However, the machine is now 4 years old & hasn't died yet.....
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darthstar Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:54:50pm |
re: #289 RogueOne
I wish people would get this out of their heads. He isn't talking and he's probably never going to tell us shit now that he has an atty. Telling us he came out here to blow up a plane and there are more coming is called boasting not debriefing.
I only wish they'd given him Orly Taitz as his attorney. But his attorney is just going through the standard motions of defense attorneys...no special fireworks like you'd get from someone defending Scooter Libby or Martha Stewart. This guy will go down...and he'll talk along the way.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:54:51pm |
re: #275 HoosierHoops
I thought when It's hard out here for a pimp Won an Oscar for best song..Awesome
I was just kicking back in a Hotel in Santa Clara.. And Bill O'Reilly was having a heart Attack.. You can't have more fun then that..
/
My mother caught that. She liked it because the artists seemed really excited and pleased.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:55:05pm |
re: #287 SixDegrees
Note that the original plan - shuttling detainees off to far-flung destinations scattered around the globe, to be detained without trial for indefinite periods of time - wasn't so much a closure of Gitmo as a dispersal of the problem, depriving critics of a focal point while retaining all the problems Gitmo raised in the first place. Now, at least, the establishment of "Gitmo North" makes things a bit clearer and reveals this as a shell game rather than a solution.
in other words, BO is a rube and should never have committed himself....he's a rookie, with little skill other than golden blablola
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:55:48pm |
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Olsonist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:55:48pm |
re: #278 Walter L. Newton
I don't know. ... he promised single payer, government option ...
He certainly didn't campaign on single payer and never promised a government option.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:55:54pm |
re: #280 wrenchwench
I guess it doesn't mean anything specific to me. Hiatt is such a good songwriter. He writes a story, with well-rounded characters, who seem like real people, and the emotions are real.
And now, I'm going to sign off with something different. I've posted it before, maybe I'm stuck in a rut, but this gives me a kick every time I watch it.
[Video]
excellent closer for you...bueno!
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Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:56:16pm |
re: #268 Racer X
I'm wondering why he doesn't?
They just finally decided on the prison that they are going to transfer the prisoners to a few weeks ago. Now they have to modify and upgrade it before they can move anyone from Gitmo to it. They will probably get it done sometime after mid-year, then of course he still has to get past the opposition in Congress.
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darthstar Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:56:23pm |
re: #294 albusteve
words go on record...either you tell the truth or you don't, the MSM can't change that
No, but when someone says a bald face lie like 'death panel' and they use that phrase repeatedly to help that person scare Americans into questioning a bill that would actually help them, then the media is complicit in the lie.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:56:30pm |
re: #300 Olsonist
He certainly didn't campaign on single payer and never promised a government option.
[Link: www.breitbart.tv...]
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:56:32pm |
re: #292 Racer X
This dude is now all lawyered-up with ACLU types who could care less about national security.
It is not the defense lawyer's job to worry about national security.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:56:48pm |
re: #249 allegro
Heh. I can't hear that word anymore without thinking of a Navajo friend of mine many years ago whose name was Velvet. When asked how she got her name, she would tell the story of her mother wearing a black velvet dress that she cherished that her husband had given to her, that she was wearing the night she conceived. Velvet expressed tremendous gratitude that the dress hadn't been made of polyester.
LOL.
What I wanna know is what this guy's parents were thinking (or doing!)
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:56:55pm |
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Bear Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:57:06pm |
re: #293 SanFranciscoZionist
Ah the sound of the old one lung Hicks. KaChug-----KaChug-----KaChug as she headed outside.
Reminds me of my old shop teacher's one but what a bad day it was when he found dry rot in the bottom. Talk about a bummer!!
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:57:26pm |
re: #300 Olsonist
He certainly didn't campaign on single payer and never promised a government option.
“I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care program. I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, spending 14 percent of its Gross National Product on health care cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody. And that’s what Jim is talking about when he says everybody in, nobody out. A single payer health care plan, a universal health care plan. And that’s what I’d like to see. But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately. Because first we have to take back the White House, we have to take back the Senate, and we have to take back the House.”
I know, this was out of context... [Link: www.breitbart.tv...]
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:57:36pm |
re: #296 darthstar
I only wish they'd given him Orly Taitz as his attorney.
That would make good TV.
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darthstar Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:57:47pm |
re: #305 SanFranciscoZionist
It is not the defense lawyer's job to worry about national security.
On second thought, maybe he should get Alberto Gonzales to defend him...or a Gonzales/Taitz tag team of incompetency.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:57:50pm |
re: #296 darthstar
I only wish they'd given him Orly Taitz as his attorney. But his attorney is just going through the standard motions of defense attorneys...no special fireworks like you'd get from someone defending Scooter Libby or Martha Stewart. This guy will go down...and he'll talk along the way.
To be fair, a plea deal is the defense attorney's only option. If the case went to a trial the jury would find the terrorist guilty in 20 minutes. There is no viable defense in a case like this.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:58:17pm |
re: #300 Olsonist
He certainly didn't campaign on single payer and never promised a government option.
Now, you want some references and links for the other promises?
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:58:32pm |
re: #303 darthstar
No, but when someone says a bald face lie like 'death panel' and they use that phrase repeatedly to help that person scare Americans into questioning a bill that would actually help them, then the media is complicit in the lie.
no, what?...Palin is not a politician...stay on track...if you want to play partisan word games you'll get killed here...
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SixDegrees Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:58:52pm |
re: #292 Racer X
This dude is now all lawyered-up with ACLU types who could care less about national security.
Actually, he has a Federally appointed defense attorney. I haven't heard the ACLU express any interest.
Actually, I'm sort of hoping that some group comes forward with an offer to aid in his defense. It would be most interesting to follow that money trail back where it came from.
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darthstar Wed, Dec 30, 2009 5:59:07pm |
re: #292 Racer X
This dude is now all lawyered-up with ACLU types who could care less about national security.
ACLU, isn't that an acronym for ACORN?
/
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Racer X Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:00:13pm |
re: #305 SanFranciscoZionist
It is not the defense lawyer's job to worry about national security.
Clearly
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Stuart Leviton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:01:03pm |
re: #204 Walter L. NewtonYour life sounds kind of fun - esp. the magic show which sounds intriguing.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:01:50pm |
re: #318 Stuart Leviton
Your life sounds kind of fun - esp. the magic show which sounds intriguing.
Life is as fun as you make it.
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darthstar Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:02:01pm |
re: #312 Dark_Falcon
To be fair, a plea deal is the defense attorney's only option. If the case went to a trial the jury would find the terrorist guilty in 20 minutes. There is no viable defense in a case like this.
There will be no plea deal. If he wants to plead guilty, then fine. If he wants to have a jury convict him, that's also fine. Nobody's going to say, "Okay, you can have six months in county and three year's probation, and you're not allowed to fly for five years" just because he wants to 'cut a deal.' The guys who are sent to blow themselves up know about as much about the organization (Al Qaeda, whatever) as the guys selling dime bags of crack on the street know about the cartels that provide the raw cocaine.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:02:09pm |
re: #316 darthstar
ACLU, isn't that an acronym for ACORN?
/
Nope. Different parts of the left. Their other work in concert towards pulling America to the left though, and thus both must be countered.
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Racer X Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:02:16pm |
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:03:10pm |
re: #320 darthstar
There will be no plea deal. If he wants to plead guilty, then fine. If he wants to have a jury convict him, that's also fine. Nobody's going to say, "Okay, you can have six months in county and three year's probation, and you're not allowed to fly for five years" just because he wants to 'cut a deal.' The guys who are sent to blow themselves up know about as much about the organization (Al Qaeda, whatever) as the guys selling dime bags of crack on the street know about the cartels that provide the raw cocaine.
You're right.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:04:04pm |
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:04:15pm |
re: #298 albusteve
in other words, BO is a rube and should never have committed himself...he's a rookie, with little skill other than golden blablola
Believe it or not, I'm not a swooning Obama fan, but in a way I really think that if he personally apprehended Osama bin Laden, Ayman al Zawahiri, and kicked Azzam al Amriki in the nuts on live TV, you would find fault with it somehow.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:05:19pm |
re: #325 negativ
Believe it or not, I'm not a swooning Obama fan, but in a way I really think that if he personally apprehended Osama bin Laden, Ayman al Zawahiri, and kicked Azzam al Amriki in the nuts on live TV, you would find fault with it somehow.
I, on the other hand, really like to see that!
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prairiefire Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:05:34pm |
re: #299 Dark_Falcon
How is the weather in Chitown tonight? We are having snow/rain, but not cold enough to freeze. Friday is supposed to be super cold.
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:06:10pm |
Shiplord Kirel are you still here?
I cut myself deeply yesterday & it made me wonder how you were doing with your cut? ( Mine was deep but minor)
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sagehen Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:06:11pm |
re: #282 albusteve
oh please...TARP originated in the Bush admin...BO voted for it as a senator...'he saved the banking system' is laughable and untrue...shirley you jest
Okay, *they* saved the banking system. Passing the TARP bill was only the start.
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SixDegrees Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:06:37pm |
re: #305 SanFranciscoZionist
It is not the defense lawyer's job to worry about national security.
Correct. And one part of her job will be to consider plea agreements for her client that minimize the unpleasantness which is inevitably going to land in what's left of his lap in exchange for his never-ending cooperation and provision of information. 'Cause at the end of the day, that's what's gonna happen in this case. It's a slam dunk, he's as good as convicted already, and the defense's job is going to be to see whether she can arrange for the guards to clue him in as to which direction Mecca is in. Or not.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:06:58pm |
re: #314 albusteve
no, what?...Palin is not a politician...stay on track...if you want to play partisan word games you'll get killed here...
A state governor and former major-party vice presidential candidate is not a politician. Oooh-kay.
Although, I must admit that that cognitive dissonance does go a long way toward explaining why she appeals as much as she does to the people to whom she appeals.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:07:23pm |
re: #327 prairiefire
How is the weather in Chitown tonight? We are having snow/rain, but not cold enough to freeze. Friday is supposed to be super cold.
It's snowing again here. We've already had a foot in the last week. This stuff is fairly light and powdery so its not a major problem, though.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:07:46pm |
re: #325 negativ
Believe it or not, I'm not a swooning Obama fan, but in a way I really think that if he personally apprehended Osama bin Laden, Ayman al Zawahiri, and kicked Azzam al Amriki in the nuts on live TV, you would find fault with it somehow.
even rubes can do stuff right...don't bother yourself too much with it...he zapped the pirates didn't he?...or at least gave the GO on that...he's still a rube...a year before he committed to the run for election he said he was not ready and I believed him...smart guy then
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Olsonist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:08:10pm |
re: #309 Walter L. Newton
Nice try. That's from 2003. He didn't campaign for President of the United States in the years 2007 and 2008 on single payer and he never promised a government option.
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:08:18pm |
re: #331 negativ
She's a partial term politician.
And, a quitter.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:08:56pm |
re: #326 SanFranciscoZionist
I, on the other hand, really like to see that!
There would necessarily need to be some Shaft-style theme music playing.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:09:11pm |
re: #329 sagehen
Okay, *they* saved the banking system. Passing the TARP bill was only the start.
BO had nothing to do with it except his vote...he had nothing to do with anything as a US senator...in fact he's just nothing
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:10:14pm |
re: #338 albusteve
BO had nothing to do with it except his vote...he had nothing to do with anything as a US senator...in fact he's just nothing
PRESENT!
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SixDegrees Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:10:18pm |
re: #320 darthstar
There will be no plea deal. If he wants to plead guilty, then fine. If he wants to have a jury convict him, that's also fine. Nobody's going to say, "Okay, you can have six months in county and three year's probation, and you're not allowed to fly for five years" just because he wants to 'cut a deal.' The guys who are sent to blow themselves up know about as much about the organization (Al Qaeda, whatever) as the guys selling dime bags of crack on the street know about the cartels that provide the raw cocaine.
If he agrees to provide information and plead to a charge acceptable to the prosecution, there's still room for leniency in sentencing. Perhaps not in term, but in circumstances.
Honestly, I doubt this guy knows anything at all of interest. But simply offering the five minutes it'll take to debrief him and sparing the US the expense of a full blown trial might earn him a prayer rug instead of bare concrete.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:10:57pm |
re: #331 negativ
A state governor and former major-party vice presidential candidate is not a politician. Oooh-kay.
Although, I must admit that that cognitive dissonance does go a long way toward explaining why she appeals as much as she does to the people to whom she appeals.
she is unemployed and means nothing to me...she is not a politician, comprende?....stay on track
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:11:22pm |
re: #336 prairiefire
I don't disagree that she is very popular with some people, I just don't think she "has what it takes" nor does she have much experience.
My 2 cents.
Oh, and I liked her when she was chosen. Now, I'm very glad she's not the VP.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:11:29pm |
re: #334 Olsonist
Nice try. That's from 2003. He didn't campaign for President of the United States in the years 2007 and 2008 on single payer and he never promised a government option.
I don't care, that's what he wants, he laid out the whole plan then, and that's not the last time he promised that. Hey dude, it's not me that lied to anyone, he did. When did he change his mind?
Funny how that happened.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:11:34pm |
re: #338 albusteve
BO had nothing to do with it except his vote...he had nothing to do with anything as a US senator...in fact he's just nothing
Quite Concur.
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Stuart Leviton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:11:45pm |
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SixDegrees Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:12:52pm |
re: #345 Stuart Leviton
As long as people are suggesting names for the panty bomber - depending on what he blew off, I'm tempted to call him the unibomber.
Well, if we're going to go there, how 'bout "Stumpy"?
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:12:55pm |
re: #343 Walter L. Newton
I don't care, that's what he wants, he laid out the whole plan then, and that's not the last time he promised that. Hey dude, it's not me that lied to anyone, he did. When did he change his mind?
Funny how that happened.
Agreed. Obama's entire time in elective office is fair game in terms of examining his policy preferences.
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darthstar Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:13:14pm |
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Stuart Leviton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:13:20pm |
re: #238 wrenchwench
Fixed that for me. Those things are torture!
Be careful, my friend, talk of such torture could get you banned. :)
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Decatur Deb Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:13:31pm |
re: #345 Stuart Leviton
As long as people are suggesting names for the panty bomber - depending on what he blew off, I'm tempted to call him the unibomber.
Eunibomber, perhaps.
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:13:42pm |
re: #345 Stuart Leviton
There was a really funny thread, yesterday, on what to call the underwear bomber. I sent it to Reine, and it might make the ROTFLMAO
section of the next cookbook.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:13:55pm |
re: #345 Stuart Leviton
As long as people are suggesting names for the panty bomber - depending on what he blew off, I'm tempted to call him the unibomber.
How about "Ragged Dick"?
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sagehen Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:13:59pm |
re: #325 negativ
Believe it or not, I'm not a swooning Obama fan, but in a way I really think that if he personally apprehended Osama bin Laden, Ayman al Zawahiri, and kicked Azzam al Amriki in the nuts on live TV, you would find fault with it somehow.
"If he walked on water, they'd say he can't swim."
(no, I didn't come up with that one myself.)
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:14:38pm |
re: #330 SixDegrees
Correct. And one part of her job will be to consider plea agreements for her client that minimize the unpleasantness which is inevitably going to land in what's left of his lap in exchange for his never-ending cooperation and provision of information. 'Cause at the end of the day, that's what's gonna happen in this case. It's a slam dunk, he's as good as convicted already, and the defense's job is going to be to see whether she can arrange for the guards to clue him in as to which direction Mecca is in. Or not.
Basically. This guy ain't-a never gettin' off. But it irks me to hear people bitch about the 'ACLU'-type lawyers defending this guy. Being a Federally-appointed defense lawyer is a perfectly respectable and necessary role, one that would have to be played regardless of where we tried this guy.
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Girth Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:15:50pm |
re: #354 SanFranciscoZionist
Basically. This guy ain't-a never gettin' off. But it irks me to hear people bitch about the 'ACLU'-type lawyers defending this guy. Being a Federally-appointed defense lawyer is a perfectly respectable and necessary role, one that would have to be played regardless of where we tried this guy.
With the severity of his burns, this may be true.
Couldn't help it.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:15:56pm |
re: #353 sagehen
"If he walked on water, they'd say he can't swim."
(no, I didn't come up with that one myself.)
Walk on Water:
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:16:35pm |
people are welcome to come here and bloat up BO into some kind of productive, on the ball, successful so far POTUS...go ahead with all the blather...I look at his words and his record, and as far as I can tell he's an all over the place rookie that does not know what the fuck he's doing....maybe reality will trump his personal ideology, let's hope so...but at this point his defenders, by and large, have little to talk about....the effort you people put out is hilarious at times tho
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:16:39pm |
re: #355 Girth
With the severity of his burns, this may be true.
Couldn't help it.
And that doesn't bother me much either, she said serenely.
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Olsonist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:16:41pm |
re: #343 Walter L. Newton
I don't care, that's what he wants, he laid out the whole plan then, and that's not the last time he promised that. Hey dude, it's not me that lied to anyone, he did. When did he change his mind?
Funny how that happened.
Ok, so we agree that he didn't campaign or promise these things. So he didn't break these campaign promises.
He is now President in what a poli sci 101 prof would call a weak executive system of government. Thas right folks. He ain't king. He has to marshall a law through the House and the Senate in our Ciceronian mixed constitutional system. It's called work.
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SixDegrees Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:16:53pm |
re: #354 SanFranciscoZionist
Basically. This guy ain't-a never gettin' off. But it irks me to hear people bitch about the 'ACLU'-type lawyers defending this guy. Being a Federally-appointed defense lawyer is a perfectly respectable and necessary role, one that would have to be played regardless of where we tried this guy.
That's right. And it's important, too. I don't want there to be any question whatsoever that this guy was somehow, in some way, railroaded or not given a fair trial. I want to see everything done by the book, beyond reproach.
Let's face it: if the government can't win this case, they deserve to see him walk free.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:17:24pm |
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Olsonist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:17:52pm |
re: #347 Dark_Falcon
Agreed. Obama's entire time in elective office is fair game in terms of examining his policy preferences.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:18:14pm |
re: #341 albusteve
she is unemployed and means nothing to me...she is not a politician, comprende?...stay on track
No, she is quite lucratively employed by her book publisher, to the tune of many millions of dollars. As much as I wish it were otherwise, she is an influential political figure. To assert otherwise is to bury one's head in the sand, by which I mean up one's ass. Verstehen Sie?
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:18:27pm |
re: #347 Dark_Falcon
Agreed. Obama's entire time in elective office is fair game in terms of examining his policy preferences.
I know. The left can't seem to take ownership of anything in regards to the Obama administration. They won on the health care bill yet go on complaining that the bill is the way it is because of the GOP. The GOP didn't have ANYTHING to do with it. It belongs to the Dems, enjoy.
Obama said he would not deal with big pharma and the insurance companies, well, the Dems gave the farm away to them and we know Obama was talking to them. Take ownership of it Dems, it's yours, the GOP had nothing to do with it.
Obama said he would stop rendition. Take ownership of it Dems, he didn't shut it all down, there is still rendition.
I could go on and on and on...
Bottom line is, Obama has done what he has done, we have a very transparent public record of what he did and said, and what he turned around and didn't do... it belongs to the left and they should be proud... own it.
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prairiefire Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:18:34pm |
My husband just told me to stop being so mean to the kids!!!
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darthstar Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:18:42pm |
re: #354 SanFranciscoZionist
Basically. This guy ain't-a never gettin' off. But it irks me to hear people bitch about the 'ACLU'-type lawyers defending this guy. Being a Federally-appointed defense lawyer is a perfectly respectable and necessary role, one that would have to be played regardless of where we tried this guy.
I don't know what people have against civil liberties, anyway. /
The irony, of course, is that those who hate the ACLU (and often President Can't-reverse-eight-years-damage-in-eleven-months Obama) are the same ones who are paranoid that President Obama wants to take away their guns and religion (which, of course, the ACLU would be there to prevent).
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Olsonist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:19:04pm |
re: #360 SixDegrees
Let's just hope Marcia Clark isn't prosecuting.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:19:43pm |
re: #367 darthstar
I don't know what people have against civil liberties, anyway. /
The irony, of course, is that those who hate the ACLU (and often President Can't-reverse-eight-years-damage-in-eleven-months Obama) are the same ones who are paranoid that President Obama wants to take away their guns and religion (which, of course, the ACLU would be there to prevent).
Ah, they're convinced that the ACLU only does things for OTHER people, who don't deserve it.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:20:00pm |
re: #359 Olsonist
Ok, so we agree that he didn't campaign or promise these things. So he didn't break these campaign promises.
He is now President in what a poli sci 101 prof would call a weak executive system of government. Thas right folks. He ain't king. He has to marshall a law through the House and the Senate in our Ciceronian mixed constitutional system. It's called work.
Marshall a law through... why... you've got the majority... it should be a wash... or is the left not unified?
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Sheila Broflovski Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:20:49pm |
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Racer X Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:20:51pm |
re: #357 albusteve
people are welcome to come here and bloat up BO into some kind of productive, on the ball, successful so far POTUS...go ahead with all the blather...I look at his words and his record, and as far as I can tell he's an all over the place rookie that does not know what the fuck he's doing...maybe reality will trump his personal ideology, let's hope so...but at this point his defenders, by and large, have little to talk about...the effort you people put out is hilarious at times tho
What's really funny is every damn thing that went wrong - from Katrina to Global Warming to a bridge collapse - was Bush's fault. But now that Obama sits in the seat nothing is his fault.
Go figure.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:20:53pm |
re: #353 sagehen
That sounds to my ear like either Mark Twain, or Johnny Cash. It's probably neither. What's the source?
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darthstar Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:20:54pm |
re: #361 albusteve
don't bother...in fact just forget all about me
You're one of the few Bush cheerleaders left...I find you fascinating...in an odd way.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:21:14pm |
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darthstar Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:21:26pm |
re: #369 SanFranciscoZionist
Like poor people and people of color.
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webevintage Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:21:46pm |
Obama Truth-O-Meter
[Link: politifact.com...]
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:21:53pm |
re: #372 Racer X
What's really funny is every damn thing that went wrong - from Katrina to Global Warming to a bridge collapse - was Bush's fault. But now that Obama sits in the seat nothing is his fault.
Go figure.
And vice versa, of course.
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SixDegrees Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:22:02pm |
re: #364 negativ
No, she is quite lucratively employed by her book publisher, to the tune of many millions of dollars. As much as I wish it were otherwise, she is an influential political figure. To assert otherwise is to bury one's head in the sand, by which I mean up one's ass. Verstehen Sie?
There's a difference, however, between a politician and a gadfly. She's rather obviously chosen the latter as her occupation while publicly rejecting the former.
I don't think anyone considers Natalie Maines to be a politician.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:22:09pm |
re: #364 negativ
No, she is quite lucratively employed by her book publisher, to the tune of many millions of dollars. As much as I wish it were otherwise, she is an influential political figure. To assert otherwise is to bury one's head in the sand, by which I mean up one's ass. Verstehen Sie?
she's unemployed by govt...that's what politicians sometimes are...the fact that she disturbs you and your leftist cronies is your problem...I try to stick to the facts until I go all snark, which in this case I'm very close...I don't give a fuck about bystanders like Palin
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Decatur Deb Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:22:34pm |
re: #370 Walter L. Newton
Marshall a law through... why... you've got the majority... it should be a wash... or is the left not unified?
Unified? We're a menagerie, always have been.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:23:24pm |
re: #376 darthstar
Like poor people and people of color.
You're not kidding. People don't seem to realize how wide the ACLU's range is.
Then again, before I showed up here, I'd never met people who didn't approve of the Southern Poverty Law Center, or NOW.
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solomonpanting Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:23:24pm |
re: #374 darthstar
You're one of the few Bush cheerleaders left...I find you fascinating...in an odd way.
Boy oh boy. Have you found a home.
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Racer X Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:23:31pm |
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Stuart Leviton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:23:36pm |
re: #289 RogueOne
I wish people would get this out of their heads. He isn't talking and he's probably never going to tell us shit now that he has an atty. Telling us he came out here to blow up a plane and there are more coming is called boasting not debriefing.
For a moment, I thought you were talking about the panty bomber being debriefed.
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webevintage Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:24:05pm |
re: #338 albusteve
in fact he's just nothing
Well, no he's not, he's President of the United States....
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:24:16pm |
re: #369 SanFranciscoZionist
Ah, they're convinced that the ACLU only does things for OTHER people, who don't deserve it.
That's not it. Those who dislike the ACLU (I'm one of them) are convinced that it is a leftist organization. We don't want a leftist understanding of the Constitution to become the norm. I believe in Original Intent, not in some "living document" malarkey.
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SixDegrees Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:24:18pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:24:26pm |
re: #385 Stuart Leviton
For a moment, I thought you were talking about the panty bomber being debriefed.
I think he's already been debriefed in that sense, from photos I've seen.
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andres Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:24:41pm |
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Olsonist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:25:11pm |
re: #365 Walter L. Newton
I know. The left can't seem to take ownership of anything in regards to the Obama administration. They won on the health care bill yet go on complaining that the bill is the way it is because of the GOP. The GOP didn't have ANYTHING to do with it. It belongs to the Dems, enjoy.
I'm going to stick with health care.
The Dems passed it against pretty much unified Republican opposition to everything. So the Dems own the result. That they didn't get the government option is the Dems fault (I'm a Dem) because they could have resorted to the Reconciliation Procedure which only takes 51 votes. I don't know why they didn't do this.
But the Dems also get 100% of the credit for ending pre-existing condition refusals. To me, that was always the Big Thing cuz I got refused health insurance because of a pre-existing condition.
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Racer X Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:25:37pm |
re: #367 darthstar
The irony, of course, is that those who hate the ACLU (and often President Can't-reverse-eight-years-damage-in-eleven-months Obama) are the same ones who are paranoid that President Obama wants to take away their guns and religion (which, of course, the ACLU would be there to prevent).
Riiight.
Just as long as you're not one of them dang Christian Right-wing White boys it's all good.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:25:39pm |
re: #390 andres
Are you happy with the health care bill that Congress passed? I'm not.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:25:43pm |
re: #387 Dark_Falcon
That's not it. Those who dislike the ACLU (I'm one of them) are convinced that it is a leftist organization. We don't want a leftist understanding of the Constitution to become the norm. I believe in Original Intent, not in some "living document" malarkey.
I think you're mistaken, but that's a reasonable approach. I have heard many people insist that the ACLU won't do things for Christians, or conservatives, or white people, which is just silly.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:25:53pm |
re: #374 darthstar
You're one of the few Bush cheerleaders left...I find you fascinating...in an odd way.
pretty lame...I've ragged on Bush for years here, noob
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:28:24pm |
re: #386 webevintage
Well, no he's not, he's President of the United States...
yeah, I'm chewing on that...a nobody goon from Chicago is POTUS!...I'll be damned
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Decatur Deb Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:28:31pm |
re: #394 SanFranciscoZionist
I think you're mistaken, but that's a reasonable approach. I have heard many people insist that the ACLU won't do things for Christians, or conservatives, or white people, which is just silly.
The neo-nazis who wanted to march in Skokie were white, Christian, and conservative enough. The ACLU ticks me off, but they are needed.
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sagehen Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:28:56pm |
re: #373 negativ
That sounds to my ear like either Mark Twain, or Johnny Cash. It's probably neither. What's the source?
Hillary said it a few months ago, but I think she was quoting someone else... and I don't know who it was.
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John Neverbend Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:29:22pm |
re: #113 webevintage
Part of the response from the WH today:
"Second, the former Vice President makes the clearly untrue claim that the President – who is this nation’s Commander-in-Chief – needs to realize we are at War. I don’t think anyone realizes this very hard reality more than President Obama. In his inaugural, the President said “our nation is at war against a far-reaching network of violence and hatred" [...]
There are numerous other such public statements that explicitly state we are at war. The difference is this: President Obama doesn’t need to beat his chest to prove it, and – unlike the last Administration – we are not at war with a tactic (“terrorism”), we at war with something that is tangible: al Qaeda and its violent extremist allies. And we will prosecute that war as long as the American people are endangered. "
The orgins of the term "The War on Terrorism" go back at least as far as this:
I have seen it argued that the term is not appropriate, since using the word "War" implies that terrorists are equivalent to legitimate combatants in a war. It was argued that "Fight" would be a more suitable word. I don't have a strong view either way on this point.
However, I think it's fallacious to argue that anybody, including the previous administration, engaged in "The War on Terrorism" is simply engaging in a "war with a tactic".
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darthstar Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:29:34pm |
re: #395 albusteve
pretty lame...I've ragged on Bush for years here, noob
My apologies...I guess I got the wrong impression of you this past month or so. As you were then.
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Olsonist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:29:55pm |
re: #370 Walter L. Newton
Generally speaking Republicans vote party line on everything. So when they are in power the leadership does what it wants. When they aren't in power they vote against everything.
Democrats work differently and tend to vote in their respective blocks every time whether the Dems are in a majority or not. Thus Nancy Pelosi has a massively harder job than Newt Gingrich did.
Add to this the Senatorial fillibuster and Senatorial privilege and you have a slow inefficient system, exactly the way the founders intended with a lot of negative control.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:30:05pm |
re: #391 Olsonist
I'm going to stick with health care.
The Dems passed it against pretty much unified Republican opposition to everything. So the Dems own the result. That they didn't get the government option is the Dems fault (I'm a Dem) because they could have resorted to the Reconciliation Procedure which only takes 51 votes. I don't know why they didn't do this.
But the Dems also get 100% of the credit for ending pre-existing condition refusals. To me, that was always the Big Thing cuz I got refused health insurance because of a pre-existing condition.
I'll let you in on a little secret. The it doesn't matter which side is in power, right, left, whatever. The left got all sorts of a squoosy good feeling, thinking that this person Obama was going to bring hope and change. People like me (independent and conservative) know better. I could see this coming a mile away and if you search back on LGF, you will see me making this point a year and a half ago.
You all got fooled. Nothing has changed and I hope you understand that. Special interest has been serve once again. It will always happen. There is nothing you can do about it, even though you idealism tries to tell you differently.
You got fool again.
So, are you happy with the health care bill that Congress passed? I'm not.
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CapeCoddah Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:30:40pm |
re: #391 Olsonist
I'm going to stick with health care.
The Dems passed it against pretty much unified Republican opposition to everything. So the Dems own the result. That they didn't get the government option is the Dems fault (I'm a Dem) because they could have resorted to the Reconciliation Procedure which only takes 51 votes. I don't know why they didn't do this.
But the Dems also get 100% of the credit for ending pre-existing condition refusals. To me, that was always the Big Thing cuz I got refused health insurance because of a pre-existing condition.
Because reconciliation is only for budget bills. Using it on the health care legislation is a misuse of reconciliation, and the Dems know it, they just don't care.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:31:01pm |
re: #397 Decatur Deb
The neo-nazis who wanted to march in Skokie were white, Christian, and conservative enough. The ACLU ticks me off, but they are needed.
The ACLU is currently suing to support those moron kids who wore the "Islam Is Of The Devil" t-shirts in their right to do so. They tick me off all the time, but they aren't backing any given team.
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:31:01pm |
re: #401 Racer X
Is that your kitty?
LOL!
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:31:23pm |
re: #380 albusteve
re: #379 SixDegrees
There's a difference, however, between a politician and a gadfly. She's rather obviously chosen the latter as her occupation while publicly rejecting the former.
I don't think anyone considers Natalie Maines to be a politician.
WHAT?!?!? Are you suggesting, my dear sir or madam, that my many years of fanatical support for Natalie Maines (including prominent forehead tattoos) has been in VAIN?
If you are indeed deigning to impugn my good taste in this delicate matter, I'm afraid that I shall have to ask you to step outside!!!
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:31:56pm |
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:31:58pm |
re: #390 andres
Uh? Which agenda?
your agenda to come onto a thread and snark 'wingnuts' on a 180 ago post
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Olsonist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:32:15pm |
re: #403 Walter L. Newton
Time to get specific. What would you have been happy with?
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:32:16pm |
re: #402 Olsonist
Generally speaking Republicans vote party line on everything. So when they are in power the leadership does what it wants. When they aren't in power they vote against everything.
Democrats work differently and tend to vote in their respective blocks every time whether the Dems are in a majority or not. Thus Nancy Pelosi has a massively harder job than Newt Gingrich did.
Add to this the Senatorial fillibuster and Senatorial privilege and you have a slow inefficient system, exactly the way the founders intended with a lot of negative control.
You all fucked it up... and now, you're blaming it on the founders... gee, sort of what Obama was saying in Chicago about 5 years ago, that the constitution is not fair because it doesn't ever deal with fair distribution of wealth.
Now I know where you are coming from. The real far left.
Would you call yourself a progressive?
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ryannon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:33:31pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:35:05pm |
re: #408 MandyManners
John Bobbit?
In one of Robert Tannenbaum's early novel, there's a hijacking scene where the pilot has decided to cooperate with the hijackers. One of the stewardesses is annoyed, because she's sized up the hijacker, and she can see that he's the kind of man who might kill easily, but he won't set off a bomb sitting on his lap.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:35:09pm |
re: #408 MandyManners
John Bobbit?
No, he and most of his brothers were Marines. Someone who serves honorably and is not a convicted felon should never be liked to a scumbag terrorist.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:35:23pm |
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Decatur Deb Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:35:25pm |
re: #412 ryannon
I can sense that you're starting to get a bit crotchety.
Mandy often cuts against the groin.
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Olsonist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:35:58pm |
re: #404 CapeCoddah
Because reconciliation is only for budget bills. Using it on the health care legislation is a misuse of reconciliation, and the Dems know it, they just don't care.
Omnibus Reconciliation Act of 1980, Pub.L. 96-499 (1980)
Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1981, Pub.L. 97-35 (1981)
Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1982, Pub.L. 97-253 (1982)
Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982 (TEFRA), Pub.L. 97-248 (1982)
Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1983, Pub.L. 98-270 (1984)
Deficit Reduction Act of 1984 (DEFRA), Pub.L. 98-369 (1984)
Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1985 (COBRA), Pub.L. 99-272 (1986)
Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1986, Pub.L. 99-509 (1986)
Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1987, Pub.L. 100-203 (1987)
Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1989, Pub.L. 101-239 (1989)
Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1990, Pub.L. 101-508 (1990).
Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993, Pub.L. 103-66 (1990).
Balanced Budget Act of 1995, H.R. 2491 (vetoed December 6, 1995)
Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act, Pub.L. 104-193 (1996)
Balanced Budget Act of 1997, Pub.L. 105-33 (1997)
Taxpayer Relief Act of 1997, Pub.L. 105-34 (1997)
Taxpayer Refund and Relief Act of 1999, H.R. 2488 (vetoed September 23, 1999)
Marriage Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2000, H.R. 4810 (vetoed August 5, 2000)
Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 (EGTRRA), Pub.L. 107-16 (2001)
Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003, Pub.L. 108-27 (2003)
Deficit Reduction Act of 2005, Pub.L. 109-171 (2006)
Tax Increase Prevention and Reconciliation Act of 2005 (TIPRA), Pub.L. 109-222 (2006)
College Cost Reduction and Access Act of 2007, Pub.L. 110-84 (2007)
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CapeCoddah Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:36:43pm |
re: #417 Olsonist
Omnibus Reconciliation Act of 1980, Pub.L. 96-499 (1980)
Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1981, Pub.L. 97-35 (1981)
Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1982, Pub.L. 97-253 (1982)
Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982 (TEFRA), Pub.L. 97-248 (1982)
Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1983, Pub.L. 98-270 (1984)
Deficit Reduction Act of 1984 (DEFRA), Pub.L. 98-369 (1984)
Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1985 (COBRA), Pub.L. 99-272 (1986)
Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1986, Pub.L. 99-509 (1986)
Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1987, Pub.L. 100-203 (1987)
Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1989, Pub.L. 101-239 (1989)
Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1990, Pub.L. 101-508 (1990).
Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993, Pub.L. 103-66 (1990).
Balanced Budget Act of 1995, H.R. 2491 (vetoed December 6, 1995)
Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act, Pub.L. 104-193 (1996)
Balanced Budget Act of 1997, Pub.L. 105-33 (1997)
Taxpayer Relief Act of 1997, Pub.L. 105-34 (1997)
Taxpayer Refund and Relief Act of 1999, H.R. 2488 (vetoed September 23, 1999)
Marriage Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2000, H.R. 4810 (vetoed August 5, 2000)
Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 (EGTRRA), Pub.L. 107-16 (2001)
Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003, Pub.L. 108-27 (2003)
Deficit Reduction Act of 2005, Pub.L. 109-171 (2006)
Tax Increase Prevention and Reconciliation Act of 2005 (TIPRA), Pub.L. 109-222 (2006)
College Cost Reduction and Access Act of 2007, Pub.L. 110-84 (2007)
All budgetary.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:36:45pm |
re: #400 darthstar
My apologies...I guess I got the wrong impression of you this past month or so. As you were then.
no, as you are...start over, many of us hear have debated all this shit for miles, years even...your impressions don't mean much to us
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Stuart Leviton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:36:57pm |
re: #366 prairiefire
My husband just told me to stop being so mean to the kids!!!
I'm sorry to hear your pain. I hope you're not going to sell them? More seriously, I wish I had kids, even little bratty one's with runny noses and would wake up at sunrise Sunday mornings when I'm trying to sleep. Good luck there with all your precious one's.
| 421 |
ryannon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:37:26pm |
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solomonpanting Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:37:31pm |
re: #408 MandyManners
re: #352 Dark_Falcon
How about "Ragged Dick"?
John Bobbit?
How about "Missing in Action"?
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Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:37:57pm |
re: #405 SanFranciscoZionist
The ACLU is currently suing to support those moron kids who wore the "Islam Is Of The Devil" t-shirts in their right to do so. They tick me off all the time, but they aren't backing any given team.
Sixth Amendment:
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district where in the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.
| 424 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:38:16pm |
re: #417 Olsonist
Maybe you missed a small question above. I was wondering, do you consider yourself a progressive?
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:38:31pm |
re: #412 ryannon
I can sense that you're starting to get a bit crotchety.
Are you really groin' there?
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sagehen Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:38:34pm |
re: #392 Racer X
Riiight.
Just as long as you're not one of them dang Christian Right-wing White boys it's all good.
| 427 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:38:59pm |
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:39:05pm |
re: #414 Dark_Falcon
No, he and most of his brothers were Marines. Someone who serves honorably and is not a convicted felon should never be liked to a scumbag terrorist.
Ummm...it's a joke.
LIGHTEN UP, FRANCIS!
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Sheila Broflovski Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:39:33pm |
re: #405 SanFranciscoZionist
The ACLU is currently suing to support those moron kids who wore the "Islam Is Of The Devil" t-shirts in their right to do so. They tick me off all the time, but they aren't backing any given team.
School uniforms. Wear them.
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darthstar Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:39:43pm |
re: #419 albusteve
no, as you are...start over, many of us hear have debated all this shit for miles, years even...your impressions don't mean much to us
Gee...now I feel so insignificant.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:40:16pm |
re: #415 MandyManners
I was never (and still am not) a Warren Zevon fan, but someone pointed me in the direction of that song, and I thought it was amazingly beautiful.
This performance especially:
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Decatur Deb Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:41:04pm |
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Jaerik Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:41:09pm |
Anyone thinking the ACLU is a leftist organization is pretty much the perfect definition of psychological confirmation bias.
| 434 |
Racer X Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:41:12pm |
Ooohh! I gotta get me one of these!
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sagehen Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:41:14pm |
re: #405 SanFranciscoZionist
The ACLU is currently suing to support those moron kids who wore the "Islam Is Of The Devil" t-shirts in their right to do so. They tick me off all the time, but they aren't backing any given team.
They backed Rush Limbaugh about keeping his medical records confidential, when the DA wanted them for the drug case.
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prairiefire Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:41:25pm |
re: #420 Stuart Leviton
Thank you. My little blessings from God, my heart's desire.
I don't know what he is talking about. I let them out of their retraints for the night
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Racer X Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:41:54pm |
re: #433 Jaerik
Anyone thinking the ACLU is a leftist organization is pretty much the perfect definition of psychological confirmation bias.
IMHO
FTFY
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:43:09pm |
re: #420 Stuart Leviton
I'm sorry to hear your pain. I hope you're not going to sell them? More seriously, I wish I had kids, even little bratty one's with runny noses and would wake up at sunrise Sunday mornings when I'm trying to sleep. Good luck there with all your precious one's.
Well, get to it, Stuart!
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Stuart Leviton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:43:29pm |
re: #355 Girth
With the severity of his burns, this may be true.Couldn't help it.
It's okay. I shouldn't joke about the pain the bomber must be in. Sorry. I wonder where to draw the line between humor - even shtetl humor/dark humor - and being kind and reverent. It's something I haven't figure out yet but need do.
| 441 |
Jaerik Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:43:53pm |
re: #437 Racer X
FTFY
Not really... as evidenced by links above, you can objectively find them on both sides of the issues pretty reliably throughout their history. There's no part of my own opinion involved.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:44:19pm |
re: #431 negativ
I was never (and still am not) a Warren Zevon fan, but someone pointed me in the direction of that song, and I thought it was amazingly beautiful.
This performance especially:
[Video]
Oh, thank you! I've never heard that one.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:45:45pm |
re: #440 Stuart Leviton
It's okay. I shouldn't joke about the pain the bomber must be in. Sorry. I wonder where to draw the line between humor - even shtetl humor/dark humor - and being kind and reverent. It's something I haven't figure out yet but need do.
I'm sure they're keeping him doped to the gills, and, frankly, the world is full of so many more people deserving of my kindness. Most of them, in fact.
I know the feeling, though.
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Olsonist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:46:08pm |
re: #418 CapeCoddah
The point is that just about anything can be put into a budget bill including tax plans. The Tax Increase Prevention and Reconciliation Act of 2005 had essentially no budgetary content.
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andres Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:46:49pm |
re: #387 Dark_Falcon
That's not it. Those who dislike the ACLU (I'm one of them) are convinced that it is a leftist organization. We don't want a leftist understanding of the Constitution to become the norm. I believe in Original Intent, not in some "living document" malarkey.
Why do you hate the Air Force? =(
| 446 |
MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:46:57pm |
re: #81 Walter L. Newton
Yes, started Monday. Major thrift store chain. Furniture department, official title "Furniture Pricer" which translates to furniture hauler, fixer, hauler, cleaner, hauler, tester, hauler, disposer, hauler pricer.
(check up thread for more info)
*cough* Goodwill *cough*...
Glad you got a steady gig, even if it is hard work...better than nothing and nothing doesn't pay the bills of put food on the table.
| 447 |
Stuart Leviton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:47:14pm |
re: #389 SanFranciscoZionist
I think he's already been debriefed in that sense, from photos I've seen.
This should teach me for falling behind in reading. When I saw this post, I felt like crying.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:47:22pm |
re: #430 darthstar
Gee...now I feel so insignificant.
you are until the time comes...I am not an enemy
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Racer X Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:47:55pm |
re: #441 Jaerik
Not really... as evidenced by links above, you can objectively find them on both sides of the issues pretty reliably throughout their history. There's no part of my own opinion involved.
Perception is reality.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:48:29pm |
| 451 |
ryannon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:48:36pm |
re: #425 MandyManners
Are you really groin' there?
I really love those old Urethra Franklin songs too!
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Olsonist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:48:45pm |
re: #411 Walter L. Newton
You all fucked it up... and now, you're blaming it on the founders... gee, sort of what Obama was saying in Chicago about 5 years ago, that the constitution is not fair because it doesn't ever deal with fair distribution of wealth.
Now I know where you are coming from. The real far left.
Would you call yourself a progressive?
This doesn't rise to the level of an argument. Generally an argument needs statements and warrants. This seems to be just a litany of your opinion so we can leave it there.
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Linden Arden Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:50:06pm |
The ACLU is pro Bill of Rights.
(they refrain from the 2nd in respect to the NRA).
In speech, the ACLU supported the Ku Klux Klan over an injunction to keep them from marching in a parade.
Even the Klan gets free speech.
The ACLU represents the American ideal. (not the Klan - FREE SPEECH)
yes - they supported Limbaugh on his 4th amendment rights..
| 455 |
MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:50:33pm |
re: #167 albusteve
man that's too hard...I rob banks
Because that's were the money is...
/Willie Sutton
| 456 |
Jaerik Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:50:36pm |
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JoyousMN Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:51:05pm |
re: #7 Alouette
Alouette,
Try removing padding. IE interprets the box model differently than the other browsers. From Wiki: "Some Web developers have instead recommended either avoiding specifying both width and padding for the same element or using conditional comment and/or CSS filters to work around the box model bug in older versions of Internet Explorer."
But there are other solutions too. Google is your friend.
| 458 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:51:42pm |
King Crimson
Elephant Talk
circa 1981-2982
| 459 |
Decatur Deb Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:51:45pm |
re: #451 ryannon
I really love those old Urethra Franklin songs too!
There's a vas deferens between a martyr and a wannabe.
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Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:51:47pm |
re: #387 Dark_Falcon
That's not it. Those who dislike the ACLU (I'm one of them) are convinced that it is a leftist organization. We don't want a leftist understanding of the Constitution to become the norm. I believe in Original Intent, not in some "living document" malarkey.
If that's the case then what about the 11th through 27th Amendments? What about the 15 Amendment which "Prohibits the federal government and the states from using a citizen's race, color, or previous status as a slave as a qualification for voting."
Then with regards to the ACLU. What about the Scopes Trial or The State of Tennessee v. John Thomas Scopes which opened the door to the teaching of evolution in our public schools?
| 461 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:51:54pm |
re: #446 talon_262
*cough* Goodwill *cough*...
Glad you got a steady gig, even if it is hard work...better than nothing and nothing doesn't pay the bills of put food on the table.
No it's not Goodwill. It's a major non-profit, has 19 stores in Colorado, in other states, the stores have a different name, same non-profit behind all the stores.
| 462 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:52:33pm |
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sagehen Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:52:41pm |
re: #418 CapeCoddah
All budgetary.
The other thing about reconciliation bills -- they have sunset provisions. No getting around it (that's why the Bush tax cuts are set to expire).
If the Senate HCR bill gets through the house, it's not going away.
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CapeCoddah Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:53:48pm |
re: #444 Olsonist
The point is that just about anything can be put into a budget bill including tax plans. The Tax Increase Prevention and Reconciliation Act of 2005 had essentially no budgetary content.
Reconciliation. Using it to force the wildly unpopular health care bill into law is an absolute misuse of the process. I will not play tit fot tat with you. It is what it is.
| 465 |
ryannon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:54:00pm |
re: #459 Decatur Deb
There's a vas deferens between a martyr and a wannabe.
Now we're really getting into the meatus of the subject!
| 466 |
Decatur Deb Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:54:56pm |
re: #465 ryannon
Now we're really getting into the meatus of the subject!
I misread that at first glans.
| 467 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:55:01pm |
re: #462 Walter L. Newton
I can agree to what you said... now...
Would you call yourself a progressive?
hint....do not give a straightforward answer comrade
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freetoken Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:55:38pm |
re: #453 Racer X
Speaking of natural phenomenon, this got my attention this morning:
Magnitude 5.8 - BAJA CALIFORNIA, MEXICO
5.8 earthquake produces intense shaking but few reports of damage on California-Mexico border
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jaunte Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:55:40pm |
re: #454 Linden Arden
The ACLU is pro Bill of Rights.
(they refrain from the 2nd in respect to the NRA).
They do make statements on the 2nd, noting that they disagree with the Heller decision, considering the 2nd to be a 'collective' right:
[Link: www.aclu.org...]
| 470 |
Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:55:44pm |
re: #434 Racer X
Ooohh! I gotta get me one of these!
You need to post that for Fat Bastard Vegetarian!
| 471 |
Stuart Leviton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:56:22pm |
re: #431 negativWhat d'ya think of Frank Zappa? (I'm in Baltimore).
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MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:56:23pm |
re: #461 Walter L. Newton
No it's not Goodwill. It's a major non-profit, has 19 stores in Colorado, in other states, the stores have a different name, same non-profit behind all the stores.
Must be ARC or the DAV...
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SteveC Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:57:08pm |
re: #440 Stuart Leviton
It's okay. I shouldn't joke about the pain the bomber must be in.
re: #443 SanFranciscoZionist
I'm sure they're keeping him doped to the gills
Maybe not. I believe I read that he has third degree burns. And i recently read this on a medical blog
Depths of burns are classified into three categories: superficial (or first-degree) burns, partial thickness (or second-degree) burns, and full thickness (or third degree) burns. Superficial and partial thickness burns, which this patient had on her face and neck, result in pain. Full thickness burns, the worst of burns, extend through the skin and soft tissue beneath it, burning, among other things, nerve endings. Thus, the reason this patient wasn't in extreme pain.
| 474 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:57:33pm |
re: #451 ryannon
I really love those old Urethra Franklin songs too!
I don't think I can keep up these puns.
| 475 |
John Neverbend Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:57:53pm |
re: #460 Gus 802
What about the Scopes Trial or The State of Tennessee v. John Thomas Scopes which opened the door to the teaching of evolution in our public schools?
Moreover, the ACLU represented the plaintiffs in Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District.
| 476 |
MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:58:14pm |
re: #474 MandyManners
I don't think I can keep up these puns.
Just don't get stoned while you do....
| 477 |
Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:58:17pm |
re: #468 freetoken
Have anything fall?
Hope you're oK!
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Olsonist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:58:21pm |
re: #464 CapeCoddah
Wildly unpopular? Let's see. The Dems won the Presidency, the House and the Senate. They get stuck with two wars and a disastrous economy. The Reptiles then run Death Panels For Granny campaign against the health bill.
You proud of this?
| 479 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:58:36pm |
re: #469 jaunte
They do make statements on the 2nd, noting that they disagree with the Heller decision, considering the 2nd to be a 'collective' right:
[Link: www.aclu.org...]
Which is the leftist position.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:58:39pm |
re: #473 SteveC
I doubt his entire groin is covered in third-degree burns.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:58:50pm |
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Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:58:50pm |
I miss Charles already.re: #475 John Neverbend
Moreover, the ACLU represented the plaintiffs in Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District.
Another good example.
| 483 |
Decatur Deb Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:59:04pm |
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:59:06pm |
re: #472 talon_262
Must be ARC or the DAV...
I prefer to keep my place of employment to myself. As it is, my I'm quite public about most of my life, which has a lot to do with shameless self promotion, since I am a rather public in Colorado in regards to my plays, but some things I like to keep to myself.
| 485 |
Killgore Trout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:59:33pm |
Humility is courage, the open acceptance of your own perfection.
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freetoken Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:59:40pm |
re: #477 Floral Giraffe
I'm fine. There was no damage around here, but it was quite a jolt for being so far away and only a 5.8.
| 487 |
Olsonist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:59:43pm |
| 488 |
Gearhead Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:59:50pm |
re: #451 ryannon
I really love those old Urethra Franklin songs too!
D-E-P-E-N-D-S. Find out what it means to me.
| 489 |
MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Dec 30, 2009 6:59:52pm |
re: #480 MandyManners
I doubt his entire groin is covered in third-degree burns.
I hope he burned his dick off...f**king bastard.
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Racer X Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:00:08pm |
re: #478 Olsonist
Wildly unpopular? Let's see. The Dems won the Presidency, the House and the Senate. They get stuck with two wars and a disastrous economy. The Reptiles then run Death Panels For Granny campaign against the health bill.
You proud of this?
When you use the term "reptiles" are you referring to Republicans or Lizards?
| 491 |
CapeCoddah Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:00:20pm |
re: #478 Olsonist
The reconciliation process is for budget bills only. The use of reconciliation to force the wildly unpopular heath care bill into law is an absolute misuse of the process. Simple unarguable fact.
| 492 |
ryannon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:00:20pm |
re: #474 MandyManners
I don't think I can keep up these puns.
I'm starting to go a bit limp myself.
Don't be so hard on yourself.
| 493 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:00:28pm |
re: #485 Killgore Trout
Humility is courage, the open acceptance of your own perfection.
simplicity is the ultimate sophistication
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SteveC Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:00:30pm |
re: #468 freetoken
Speaking of natural phenomenon, this got my attention this morning:
Magnitude 5.8 - BAJA CALIFORNIA, MEXICO
5.8 earthquake produces intense shaking but few reports of damage on California-Mexico border
Earthquake has to be a 3.6 before it can even be felt, so a 5.8 in an area that has experienced them before and has been earthquake proofed probably won't cause much damage.
| 495 |
Linden Arden Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:00:36pm |
I strongly support the Bill of Rights - most conservatives do not.
Look at the 14th Amendment - conservatives do not want rights applied to state legislatures.
Sad.
| 496 |
freetoken Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:00:58pm |
re: #485 Killgore Trout
Humility is courage, the open acceptance of your own perfection.
I take it you're proud of you bread baking?
| 497 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:01:15pm |
| 498 |
MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:01:53pm |
re: #484 Walter L. Newton
I prefer to keep my place of employment to myself. As it is, my I'm quite public about most of my life, which has a lot to do with shameless self promotion, since I am a rather public in Colorado in regards to my plays, but some things I like to keep to myself.
That's cool...wasn't trying to pry or put you on the spot, but there are only so many nationwide thrift chains out there.
| 499 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:02:04pm |
re: #466 Decatur Deb
I misread that at first glans.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:02:06pm |
re: #495 Linden Arden
I strongly support the Bill of Rights - most conservatives do not.
Look at the 14th Amendment - conservatives do not want rights applied to state legislatures.
Sad.
I love this stuff!...yeehaa!
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:02:10pm |
re: #486 freetoken
Good to hear.
Yes, it's been a while since we've had much of a shake here, too.
And, may it stay that way, except for the little ones, that release the pressure!
| 502 |
Olsonist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:02:13pm |
re: #490 Racer X
When you use the term "reptiles" are you referring to Republicans or Lizards?
Sorry, I was using Reptiles as a nickname for Republicans before I registered at LGF. I kind of liked it but it obviously is confusing here so it goes in the dustbin.
| 503 |
Jaerik Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:03:05pm |
I guess the point is that they have a lot of leftist positions/litigants, but they appear to have roughly the same number of rightist positions/litigants. That would, from a purely scientific/objective standpoint, imply they are non-partisan.
If you state that they are a "lefty" or "righty" organization, that would imply you're engaging in selective confirmation bias by only counting the cases you agree/disagree with, and/or your own perception of the "middle" is severely skewed by the extremism of your own place on the spectrum.
| 504 |
freetoken Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:03:08pm |
re: #494 SteveC
One thing to remember though is that while up here North of the border the building codes can handle such a quake, down in Mexico one never knows how well a building is built. The quake occurred in a rural area, and no doubt many of the local buildings are made of questionable masonry. (This is not to imply that Mexican's can't build buildings, but the poor often can't afford to live in a modern building.)
| 505 |
Gearhead Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:03:24pm |
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solomonpanting Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:03:24pm |
re: #495 Linden Arden
I strongly support the Bill of Rights - most conservatives do not.
Look at the 14th Amendment - conservatives do not want rights applied to state legislatures.Sad.
Just want to point out that the Bill of Rights apllies to the first Ten Amendments.
| 507 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:03:34pm |
re: #460 Gus 802
If that's the case then what about the 11th through 27th Amendments? What about the 15 Amendment which "Prohibits the federal government and the states from using a citizen's race, color, or previous status as a slave as a qualification for voting."
Then with regards to the ACLU. What about the Scopes Trial or The State of Tennessee v. John Thomas Scopes which opened the door to the teaching of evolution in our public schools?
I have Irving Stone's biography of Clarence Darrow about three feet away and my recollection is that the ACLU did NOT want Darrow on the case.
| 508 |
Decatur Deb Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:03:48pm |
re: #492 ryannon
I'm starting to go a bit limp myself.
Don't be so hard on yourself.
At least he'll get good medical care in the penile system.
| 509 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:04:09pm |
re: #498 talon_262
That's cool...wasn't trying to pry or put you on the spot, but there are only so many nationwide thrift chains out there.
Well, I said it was non-profit, and yes, it deals with disabled people, but your right, there a more than Goodwill, especially nationwide ones.
I do find the fact that my company is a non-profit and have responsibly raised money for these disabled citizens.
| 510 |
Sheepdogess Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:04:23pm |
While terrorists plot, The FAA parties...
[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]
| 512 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:04:41pm |
re: #460 Gus 802
If that's the case then what about the 11th through 27th Amendments? What about the 15 Amendment which "Prohibits the federal government and the states from using a citizen's race, color, or previous status as a slave as a qualification for voting."
Then with regards to the ACLU. What about the Scopes Trial or The State of Tennessee v. John Thomas Scopes which opened the door to the teaching of evolution in our public schools?
BTW, the result was more far-reaching than just evolution. It opened up a lot of doors.
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andres Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:05:02pm |
re: #409 albusteve
your agenda to come onto a thread and snark 'wingnuts' on a 180 ago post
I'm a slow reader, English isn't my first language, and I tend to do several things at the same time. Give me a break, will ya?
If you are criticizing me for saying "wingnuts", I used it in context of the post I was replying to.
re: #393 Walter L. Newton
Are you happy with the health care bill that Congress passed? I'm not.
I'm not happy with the version, but I'm happy that something was passed. It can and should be improved with time.
| 514 |
Olsonist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:05:02pm |
| 515 |
Ojoe Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:05:11pm |
| 516 |
Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:05:17pm |
re: #507 MandyManners
I have Irving Stone's biography of Clarence Darrow about three feet away and my recollection is that the ACLU did NOT want Darrow on the case.
What about:
In response, Clarence Darrow, an agnostic, volunteered his services to the defense. After many changes back and forth, the defense team consisted of Darrow, ACLU attorney Arthur Garfield Hays, and Dudley Field Malone, an international divorce lawyer who had worked at the State Department while Bryan was Secretary of State.
Othere things here as well.
| 518 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:05:35pm |
re: #509 Walter L. Newton
Well, I said it was non-profit, and yes, it deals with disabled people, but your right, there a more than Goodwill, especially nationwide ones.
I do find the fact that my company is a non-profit and have responsibly raised money for these disabled citizens.
I need a new lamp...I'm tempted to come up and see you..I'd take a job like that in a heartbeat...hail!
| 519 |
Sheila Broflovski Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:05:41pm |
re: #457 JoyousMN
Alouette,
Try removing padding. IE interprets the box model differently than the other browsers. From Wiki: "Some Web developers have instead recommended either avoiding specifying both width and padding for the same element or using conditional comment and/or CSS filters to work around the box model bug in older versions of Internet Explorer."
But there are other solutions too. Google is your friend.
There is no padding in the sidebars. I set both sidebars to a fixed pixel width since they only contain graphics objects and no text, but I'm still getting a 30px space on top of both sidebars, although not in the main contents.
It still looks better than the old template, though. It will take a while to update everything. My site has over 2000 pages!
| 520 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:05:42pm |
| 521 |
Racer X Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:06:09pm |
re: #502 Olsonist
Sorry, I was using Reptiles as a nickname for Republicans before I registered at LGF. I kind of liked it but it obviously is confusing here so it goes in the dustbin.
Thank you.
I would never constantly refer to Democrats as "douchebags".
| 522 |
ryannon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:06:13pm |
| 523 |
Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:06:13pm |
re: #510 Sheepdogess
While terrorists plot, The FAA parties...
[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]
Moonie Times editorial?
/
| 524 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:06:52pm |
re: #514 Olsonist
Yes, to Jeopardy.
pretty lame in view of your support for the ACLU...if you want to be irrelevant that's fine by me
| 525 |
Racer X Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:07:46pm |
| 527 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:08:33pm |
re: #480 MandyManners
I doubt his entire groin is covered in third-degree burns.
Clearly you've never taken the Rush Limbaugh Sexy-Time Tour
| 528 |
Olsonist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:08:35pm |
re: #521 Racer X
Thank you.
I would never constantly refer to Democrats as "douchebags".
Yes, but there is a big difference. Reptiles is sort of neutral and douchebags is kind of not.
| 529 |
SteveC Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:08:59pm |
re: #495 Linden Arden
I strongly support the Bill of Rights - most conservatives do not.
Look at the 14th Amendment - conservatives do not want rights applied to state legislatures.
Sad.
Umm... excuse me... doesn't The Bill of Rights refer to the first ten amaendments to the US Constitution?
| 530 |
Racer X Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:09:07pm |
| 531 |
Linden Arden Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:09:31pm |
Many conservative hate the Bill of Rights because it is explicitly secular.
Fundie Christ-bots want a theocracy.
| 532 |
Racer X Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:09:57pm |
| 533 |
Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:09:59pm |
Here you go. The flip side of the ACLU: Landmark Legal Foundation.
Mark Levin is the "president."
Funded by:
Among its contributors are the Allegheny Foundation; Lynde and Harry Bradley, Foundation, Inc.; Carthage Foundation, Castle Rock Foundation; JM Foundation; Charles G. Koch Charitable Foundation; Philip M. McKenna Foundation, Inc.; John M. Olin Foundation, Inc.; Sarah Scaife Foundation; and the Scaife Family Foundation.
There more out there.
| 534 |
Olsonist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:10:04pm |
re: #524 albusteve
Perhaps if you filled out a little context it would help. One line completely off the wall questions don't really register.
| 535 |
Decatur Deb Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:10:36pm |
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Linden Arden Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:11:28pm |
re: #529 SteveC
Umm... excuse me... doesn't The Bill of Rights refer to the first ten amaendments to the US Constitution?
Traditionally, yes.
But granting women the right to vote is not inherently a cherished right?
Why are later rights lesser to you?
| 538 |
SteveC Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:11:28pm |
re: #506 solomonpanting
Just want to point out that the Bill of Rights apllies to the first Ten Amendments.
GMTA - I'm way behind, you guys are like lightning tonight!
| 539 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:11:54pm |
re: #534 Olsonist
Perhaps if you filled out a little context it would help. One line completely off the wall questions don't really register.
it should, it was a major news event with regard to the ACLU...you blab, but you are not really on the ball...
| 540 |
Girth Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:12:01pm |
re: #528 Olsonist
Yes, but there is a big difference. Reptiles is sort of neutral and douchebags is kind of not.
Come on, referring to a person as a reptile has a negative connotation for most people and you know it.
| 541 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:12:23pm |
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Jaerik Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:12:36pm |
Saying that conservatives hate the Bill of Rights is laughable. The Second Amendment comes readily to mind.
You could argue their record on the Fourth isn't so hot recently, and both parties wrestle over the First on a nearly daily basis, but... I don't recall any conservatives calling for the quartering of troops in private homes, for example.
| 543 |
Killgore Trout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:12:49pm |
re: #496 freetoken
I take it you're proud of you bread baking?
Heh, I think it must be the bread that brings out my spiritual side.
| 544 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:13:07pm |
re: #502 Olsonist
Sorry, I was using Reptiles as a nickname for Republicans before I registered at LGF. I kind of liked it but it obviously is confusing here so it goes in the dustbin.
It isn't that it's confusing - I understood immediately that you meant "reptiles" to refer to Republicans.
It's that there are, believe it or not, some Republicans here, and we would like to have, and some of us try very hard to have, courteous conversations with you guys.
It's hard to do when we are referred to as "reptiles".
| 545 |
Decatur Deb Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:13:08pm |
| 546 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:13:32pm |
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:13:45pm |
re: #543 Killgore Trout
Heh, I think it must be the bread that brings out my spiritual side.
ohmmm....dig bread
| 548 |
HelloDare Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:13:47pm |
Limbaugh Rushed To Honolulu Hospital
Conservative Radio Show Host Suffering From Chest Pains
Conservative radio talk host Rush Limbaugh was rushed to a Honolulu hospital on Wednesday afternoon with chest pains, sources told KITV.
Paramedics responded to the call at 2:41 p.m. at the Kahala Hotel and Resort.
Limbaugh suffered from chest pains, sources said. Paramedics treated him and took him to Queen's Medical Center in serious condition.
He was seen golfing at Waialae Country Club earlier this week. The country club is next to the Kahala Hotel and Resort.
| 549 |
Killgore Trout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:13:49pm |
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ryannon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:14:04pm |
re: #508 Decatur Deb
At least he'll get good medical care in the penile system.
It can be disturbing experience to seamen behind bars.
| 553 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:14:21pm |
| 554 |
Olsonist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:14:35pm |
re: #540 Girth
Come on, referring to a person as a reptile has a negative connotation for most people and you know it.
No mor Lizards then? It was meant to be lightly negative but certainly not as bad as you are making it out to be
| 555 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:15:06pm |
re: #545 Decatur Deb
Are you part of the ACLU discussion or the sex-puns?
who cares...some people don't count
| 556 |
Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:15:20pm |
re: #549 Killgore Trout
Ah, Birch Society.
Yep.
Side note: What's interesting about all this is that the Koch brothers, the ACLU and George Soros teamed up for some lawsuit against certain portions of the Patriot Act.
| 557 |
solomonpanting Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:15:44pm |
re: #537 Linden Arden
re: #529 SteveC
Umm... excuse me... doesn't The Bill of Rights refer to the first ten amaendments to the US Constitution?
Traditionally, yes.
And to hell with traditions.
| 558 |
SteveC Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:16:09pm |
re: #537 Linden Arden
Traditionally, yes.
But granting women the right to vote is not inherently a cherished right?
Why are later rights lesser to you?
They are not of lesser value. But traditionally the first ten are known as the Bill of Rights. That's not my decision to call them that, nor is it yours. It was decided a long time before we got here.
| 559 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:16:18pm |
re: #554 Olsonist
No mor Lizards then? It was meant to be lightly negative but certainly not as bad as you are making it out to be
It was meant to be "lightly negative"?
Are you here, then, for the purpose of conversation, or to throw jabs at those who may have a difference of opinion with you?
| 560 |
Killgore Trout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:17:43pm |
re: #556 Gus 802
Side note: What's interesting about all this is that the Koch brothers, the ACLU and George Soros teamed up for some lawsuit against certain portions of the Patriot Act.
That doesn't surprise me. I was pondering earlier today about the possibility of Code Pink joining the Tea Party movement. Sounds crazy but it is withing the realm of possibility.
| 561 |
Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:17:57pm |
re: #526 Sheepdogess
Did you read it?
OK, 5 million dollars for an FAA Christmas party then a bunch of other stuff about spending at the FAA
| 562 |
Decatur Deb Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:18:10pm |
re: #541 MandyManners
Oh, my. You forced me to post this.
[Video]
Give up. That pretty much covers the waterfront.
| 563 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:18:29pm |
I am a bread head, as are both my kids...I don't make it but have a high regard for those that do...an ancient art...I like bread talk and the like...I eat all kinds of strange breads, I don't know where they come from or their history but I like breadtime stories
| 564 |
Jaerik Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:18:35pm |
re: #548 HelloDare
He's had chest pains before and been fine, I wouldn't worry about him too much.
The tangentially interesting part of the article for me was this:
In 2001, Limbaugh received a cochlear implant after he suddenly lost hearing due to autoimmune inner ear disease. Limbaugh underwent treatment in 2003 for an addiction to prescription painkillers, including Lorcet, Norco and hydrocodone.
The wikipedia page for "automimmune inner ear disease" lists "long term abuse of opiate-based painkillers (such as OxyContin and Hydrocodone)" as a chief cause.
I hadn't been aware of that connection in his case.
| 565 |
Olsonist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:18:40pm |
re: #559 reine.de.tout
It was meant to be "lightly negative"?
Are you here, then, for the purpose of conversation, or to throw jabs at those who may have a difference of opinion with you?
All of the above.
| 566 |
Girth Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:19:00pm |
re: #554 Olsonist
No mor Lizards then? It was meant to be lightly negative but certainly not as bad as you are making it out to be
I wasn't making it out to be anything. All I was doing was calling you on your statement that it was kinda neutral.
| 567 |
freetoken Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:19:33pm |
re: #564 Jaerik
The hypothesis (that the ear damage was the result of the drug abuse) has been well discussed.
| 568 |
wee fury Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:20:22pm |
re: #434 Racer X
Ooohh! I gotta get me one of these!
. . . I like cutting off a big hunk of cake and slapping it on a plate. Seems more . . . . edible, that way.
| 569 |
Obdicut Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:20:36pm |
re: #565 Olsonist
You're attempting light humor on the interwebs. Difficult.
| 570 |
Killgore Trout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:21:00pm |
re: #563 albusteve
Give us this day, our daily dough
Forgive us our needings as we forgive those who kneed against us.
| 571 |
Olsonist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:21:15pm |
re: #566 Girth
I wasn't making it out to be anything. All I was doing was calling you on your statement that it was kinda neutral.
Kinda neutral. A little negative. When Bush was using Democrat Congress, it's kind of like that. A little not a lot.
| 572 |
Jaerik Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:21:20pm |
re: #567 freetoken
The hypothesis (that the ear damage was the result of the drug abuse) has been well discussed.
Ah, apologies. Guess I'm out of the loop. I don't pay a whole lot of attention to Rush.
| 573 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:21:32pm |
re: #569 Obdicut
You're attempting light humor on the interwebs. Difficult.
especially when one has no talent for it
| 574 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:21:46pm |
re: #544 reine.de.tout
It isn't that it's confusing - I understood immediately that you meant "reptiles" to refer to Republicans.
It's that there are, believe it or not, some Republicans here, and we would like to have, and some of us try very hard to have, courteous conversations with you guys.
It's hard to do when we are referred to as "reptiles".
FUCKING-A!
| 575 |
Gearhead Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:21:56pm |
re: #548 HelloDare
Limbaugh Rushed To Honolulu Hospital
Conservative Radio Show Host Suffering From Chest Pains
In related news, Nancy Pelosi has reportedly developed an acute case of schadenfreude.
| 576 |
MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:22:05pm |
| 577 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:22:27pm |
re: #569 Obdicut
You're attempting light humor on the interwebs. Difficult.
Agreed. A purely written situation is not a good place for that sort of humor. It's best in person, where people are more guarded in their hostilities and you can use tone and body language to help make your points.
| 578 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:22:40pm |
re: #570 Killgore Trout
Give us this day, our daily dough
Forgive us our needings as we forgive those who kneed against us.
heh...well sliced bro...I'm a believer
| 579 |
prairiefire Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:23:00pm |
re: #548 HelloDare
Limbaugh Rushed To Honolulu Hospital
Conservative Radio Show Host Suffering From Chest PainsConservative radio talk host Rush Limbaugh was rushed to a Honolulu hospital on Wednesday afternoon with chest pains, sources told KITV.
Paramedics responded to the call at 2:41 p.m. at the Kahala Hotel and Resort.
Limbaugh suffered from chest pains, sources said. Paramedics treated him and took him to Queen's Medical Center in serious condition.
He was seen golfing at Waialae Country Club earlier this week. The country club is next to the Kahala Hotel and Resort.
I knew that his sudden weight loss was not healthy.
| 580 |
Daniel Ballard Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:23:28pm |
| 581 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:24:20pm |
re: #577 Dark_Falcon
Agreed. A purely written situation is not a good place for that sort of humor. It's best in person, where people are more guarded in their hostilities and you can use tone and body language to help make your points.
I think you are correct.
IMO, jabbing folks with insults has a tendency to deflect the conversation, not add to it.
Someone interested in throwing out jabs is probably not as interested in conversation as he/she says.
Just my .02, and the end of it for me.
| 582 |
Achilles Tang Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:24:33pm |
re: #560 Killgore Trout
That doesn't surprise me. I was pondering earlier today about the possibility of Code Pink joining the Tea Party movement. Sounds crazy but it is withing the realm of possibility.
It is nice to see that I'm not the only one in the universe with a subconscious that wants to add a g every time I type an in ending to a word.
So, now I suppose I should read some posts and get back on track.
| 583 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:25:16pm |
re: #502 Olsonist
Sorry, I was using Reptiles as a nickname for Republicans before I registered at LGF. I kind of liked it but it obviously is confusing here so it goes in the dustbin.
Were you a habitue of Alex Jones' or David Icke's site?
THOSE ARE THE SITES THAT REFERED TO REPUBLICANS AS LIZARDS/REPTILES.
You've burned your wick for me.
| 584 |
prairiefire Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:25:29pm |
re: #564 Jaerik
I sure had. He always adds the comment "through no fault of my own!" when discussing his deafness.
| 585 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:25:55pm |
re: #560 Killgore Trout
That doesn't surprise me. I was pondering earlier today about the possibility of Code Pink joining the Tea Party movement. Sounds crazy but it is withing the realm of possibility.
Al Jazeera reports that Code PInk has turned down the Egyptians' offer.
| 586 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:26:45pm |
| 588 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:27:14pm |
re: #528 Olsonist
Yes, but there is a big difference. Reptiles is sort of neutral and douchebags is kind of not.
Oh, bullshit.
I despise the latter because it is a misogynistic term but, I've never met anyone who agrees with me on that.
However, plenty of people realize that de-humanizing Republicans is wrong.
| 589 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:27:46pm |
re: #531 Linden Arden
Many conservative hate the Bill of Rights because it is explicitly secular.
Fundie Christ-bots want a theocracy.
Why don't you go back to KOS or Huff-Po?
| 590 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:27:56pm |
| 591 |
HelloDare Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:28:20pm |
It will be interesting to see the comments on HuffPost and Kos when they post a story -- assuming they'll leave the comments open.
| 592 |
Daniel Ballard Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:28:22pm |
re: #586 The Sanity Inspector
Thanks for posting that. Very sad.
| 593 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:28:32pm |
re: #588 MandyManners
Oh, bullshit.
I despise the latter because it is a misogynistic term but, I've never met anyone who agrees with me on that.
However, plenty of people realize that de-humanizing Republicans is wrong.
Olsonist is a marginal creature...observe and chuckle
| 594 |
Varek Raith Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:29:29pm |
re: #590 SanFranciscoZionist
Ah, I recall the days when "Demonrats" and 'libtards' was common 'round here. We'll get it all worked out. Everyone! Play nice!
OK!
*Throws a pie in SFZ's general direction*
/:)
| 595 |
Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:30:07pm |
That's SIR Patrick Stewart to you:
[Link: edition.cnn.com...]
| 596 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:30:34pm |
re: #594 Varek Raith
OK!
*Throws a pie in SFZ's general direction*
/:)
*licks lemon custard off chin, looks slightly confused*
| 597 |
Varek Raith Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:30:53pm |
re: #595 negativ
That's SIR Patrick Stewart to you:
[Link: edition.cnn.com...]
Excuse my language but, That. Is. Fucking. Awesome!
| 598 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:30:54pm |
| 599 |
Jaerik Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:31:47pm |
re: #560 Killgore Trout
That doesn't surprise me. I was pondering earlier today about the possibility of Code Pink joining the Tea Party movement. Sounds crazy but it is withing the realm of possibility.
I have a theory that both parties embrace The Crazy in a linear relationship to how far they're out of power. I think it's a defensive maneuver, where you feel the need to hang on to every vote, even if that vote comes from someone embarrassingly nasty.
It's why the Dems kicked Code Pink, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Cindy Sheehan, etc to the curb as soon as they won. Seriously, when was the last time you saw any of them on television? I hope the Republicans do the same thing.
Then again, you could pull a chicken-and-egg argument and say that the only reason the Democrats won was because they kicked the crazies to the curb, in which case the Republicans embracing them is bad news for them short-term.
| 600 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:31:55pm |
re: #590 SanFranciscoZionist
Ah, I recall the days when "Demonrats" and 'libtards' was common 'round here. We'll get it all worked out. Everyone! Play nice!
SFZ - I never used "demonrats", and I never used "libtards".
Ever.
There were some who did, yes there were.
| 601 |
prairiefire Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:31:58pm |
re: #595 negativ
Love, love, love his voice. I would hire him to read the phone book to me.
| 602 |
SteveC Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:31:58pm |
"The main artery supplying his body with blood was very underdeveloped and tiny," Knott-Craig said. "What we needed to do was open up the entire artery and reconstruct it with a patch."
The artery should have been about the size of a ballpoint pen. Instead, it was half the size of a matchstick.
"When you're working with a baby that's (as long as) from the top of your fingers to your wrist, this artery that you need to be reconstructing is tiny. The needles and the suture material that you need to use really can't be seen by the naked eye," Knott-Craig said.
| 603 |
Decatur Deb Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:32:42pm |
re: #596 SanFranciscoZionist
*licks lemon custard off chin, looks slightly confused*
Outta here before the pastry puns start. "Nite All.
| 604 |
Daniel Ballard Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:32:52pm |
re: #590 SanFranciscoZionist
With ya there 100%. I guess the demographics have really shifted along the way. But hey in any case no need to get insulting. I do give Olsonist credit for agreeing quickly to "dustbin" the term here.
| 605 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:33:09pm |
give republicans some sympathy
| 606 |
jaunte Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:33:15pm |
re: #595 negativ
That's SIR Patrick Stewart to you:
[Link: edition.cnn.com...]
They've knighted Lenin!
Image: absolute-beginners.jpg
| 607 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:33:23pm |
FWIW, there was a P. J. O'Rourke book called Republican Party Reptile. Its topical political humor is pretty dated now, but it was hilarious back in the day.
| 608 |
Randall Gross Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:33:26pm |
For the record as a PJ O'Rourke fan I am not offended by the term Reptile...
Recommended reading
| 609 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:33:29pm |
re: #604 Rightwingconspirator
With ya there 100%. I guess the demographics have really shifted along the way. But hey in any case no need to get insulting. I do give Olsonist credit for agreeing quickly to "dustbin" the term here.
Did he?
Well, then, credit where due.
| 610 |
Olsonist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:34:12pm |
re: #583 MandyManners
Were you a habitue of Alex Jones' or David Icke's site?
THOSE ARE THE SITES THAT REFERED TO REPUBLICANS AS LIZARDS/REPTILES.
You've burned your wick for me.
No, it was my own idea. I've never even heard of those sites. Otherwise, tough.
| 611 |
prairiefire Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:34:22pm |
re: #600 reine.de.tout
I think folks work through to what level they want to engage in. My super liberal mom, grand ma, and aunt would whack me upside the head if they heard me engaging in name calling. I have a nagging mid-west woman censor in my head.
| 613 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:35:05pm |
re: #590 SanFranciscoZionist
Ah, I recall the days when "Demonrats" and 'libtards' was common 'round here. We'll get it all worked out. Everyone! Play nice!
I have never used a combination of "-tard". Ever.
The rest is fair play.
| 614 |
SteveC Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:35:12pm |
re: #601 prairiefire
Love, love, love his voice. I would hire him to read the phone book to me.
*Clears throat*
Murray's Pizza, 555-9854. Best Buy, 555-1744. Ed's House of Liver, 555-0911
| 616 |
Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:35:28pm |
| 617 |
rwmofo Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:35:30pm |
Rush Limbaugh hospitalized in Hawaii.
Huffington Post commenters are hoping for the worst:
Nfan12: Rush Limbaugh hospitalized with chest pains. Let's all hope he dies. (via @amazingatheist)
patrick_jenkins: Rush Limbaugh was hospitalized. Is it wrong for me to wish his hateful ass doesn't get better. What goes around!
suddenlypie: Rush Limbaugh hospitalized? Ok Universe, there's 1 LAST CHANCE for u 2 make up for this abortion of a year. MAKE IT SO! (via @8easysteps)
| 618 |
bagua Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:35:31pm |
| 619 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:35:43pm |
re: #600 reine.de.tout
SFZ - I never used "demonrats", and I never used "libtards".
Ever.
There were some who did, yes there were.
I know you didn't, and I appreciate it!
| 620 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:36:10pm |
re: #590 SanFranciscoZionist
Ah, I recall the days when "Demonrats" and 'libtards' was common 'round here. We'll get it all worked out. Everyone! Play nice!
Oh, and wasn't it the BHO supporters who called Sarah Palin's child all kinds of "-tard" names?
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Mich-again Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:36:26pm |
re: #600 reine.de.tout
SFZ - I never used "demonrats", and I never used "libtards".
Ever.
There were some who did, yes there were.
Ah yes, I am guilty of those and worse. Sometimes I would even do the bold-caps thing when I typed demonRATS.
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Sheila Broflovski Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:36:32pm |
re: #583 MandyManners
Were you a habitue of Alex Jones' or David Icke's site?
THOSE ARE THE SITES THAT REFERED TO REPUBLICANS AS LIZARDS/REPTILES.
You've burned your wick for me.
Good catch.
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MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:36:34pm |
re: #598 MandyManners
Can you imagine if he succeeded?
It would have been absolutely horrible...all aboard would have likely been lost, in addition to any casualties on the ground.
The right-wing wingnuts and other assorted crazies would most likely have had an orgasm over it because they would have made it the Obama administration's fault, victims be damned.
/wish I weren't so cynical...
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reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:37:00pm |
re: #611 prairiefire
I think folks work through to what level they want to engage in. My super liberal mom, grand ma, and aunt would whack me upside the head if they heard me engaging in name calling. I have a nagging mid-west woman censor in my head.
heheh.
And I have a nagging southern-belle mamma censor in my head.
Disagree, yes indeed!
Call names or insult someone? Nevah!
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:37:06pm |
re: #595 negativ
That's SIR Patrick Stewart to you:
[Link: edition.cnn.com...]
I wanna' have his love child.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:37:42pm |
re: #610 Olsonist
No, it was my own idea. I've never even heard of those sites. Otherwise, tough.
you have original ideas?, cool...do you think Las Cruces NM should change their name?
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bagua Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:38:05pm |
re: #617 rwmofo
Rush Limbaugh hospitalized in Hawaii.
Huffington Post commenters are hoping for the worst:
Nfan12: Rush Limbaugh hospitalized with chest pains. Let's all hope he dies. (via @amazingatheist)
patrick_jenkins: Rush Limbaugh was hospitalized. Is it wrong for me to wish his hateful ass doesn't get better. What goes around!
suddenlypie: Rush Limbaugh hospitalized? Ok Universe, there's 1 LAST CHANCE for u 2 make up for this abortion of a year. MAKE IT SO! (via @8easysteps)
Typical Moonbat hate speech.
Is this typical of the comments at the Huffington Post?
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:38:05pm |
re: #601 prairiefire
I have a 15 year-old bootleg recording of his one-man-show performance of Dickins' "A Christmas Carol". I can't begin to understand why it was never released as a commercial product, because it's 9 million different kinds of awesome.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:38:12pm |
re: #586 The Sanity Inspector
For those CIA people, as well as the Canadian soldiers who were murdered by a roadside bomb: Godspeed, and Thank You. The linked to vid is one that has sometimes been used here to mark such occasions:
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Daniel Ballard Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:38:15pm |
re: #617 rwmofo
It's a damn shame the comments on web sites are such cesspools of ill intentions. I don't care if its Rush or anyone else. That's just wrong. Indicates the right has no monopoly on hate either.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:38:18pm |
re: #606 jaunte
They've knighted Lenin!
[Link: www.trevorgriffiths.co.uk...]
Well, why not? We elected one of his disciples just over a year ago.
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jaunte Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:38:29pm |
re: #600 reine.de.tout
SFZ - I never used "demonrats", and I never used "libtards".
Ever.
There were some who did, yes there were.
It isn't necessary to use old tired insults when you really know what you want to say, and you are a consistently clear poster here, reine.
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Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:38:30pm |
re: #600 reine.de.tout
SFZ - I never used "demonrats", and I never used "libtards".
Ever.
There were some who did, yes there were.
Demonrats shows up in the LGF Etymological Dictionary.
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Olsonist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:38:41pm |
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Olsonist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:39:15pm |
re: #626 albusteve
you have original ideas?, cool...do you think Las Cruces NM should change their name?
Asked and answered.
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rwmofo Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:39:28pm |
re: #627 bagua
Typical Moonbat hate speech.
Is this typical of the comments at the Huffington Post?
About 50%.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:39:35pm |
re: #632 jaunte
It isn't necessary to use old tired insults when you really know what you want to say, and you are a consistently clear poster here, reine.
Aw.
*blush*
Thanks!
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SteveC Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:39:49pm |
re: #627 bagua
Typical Moonbat hate speech.
Is this typical of the comments at the Huffington Post?
Seems a little on the tame side. I don't think they are fully worked up yet.
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Jaerik Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:39:55pm |
The question will be if HuffPo / DailyKOS erase the nasty comments or let them stay. Charles has usually been pretty even-handed in calling out nasty comments, but he only jumps on it when the site's mods implicitly condone them.
I'm not holding my breath, but let's watch.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:39:57pm |
re: #627 bagua
Typical Moonbat hate speech.
Is this typical of the comments at the Huffington Post?
They are deleted already, at least when I just just looked.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:40:00pm |
re: #633 Gus 802
Demonrats shows up in the LGF Etymological Dictionary.
Yes, I admitted there were some who did.
Is my name by that entry?
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:40:38pm |
re: #624 reine.de.tout
heheh.
And I have a nagging southern-belle mamma censor in my head.
Disagree, yes indeed!
Call names or insult someone? Nevah!
I have a Reine charm on a chain around my neck...I sell them for 6 bucks a pop...wildly popular, jus sayin
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:40:42pm |
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Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:41:07pm |
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:41:24pm |
re: #627 bagua
Typical Moonbat hate speech.
Is this typical of the comments at the Huffington Post?
Not lately. They've been much better about monitoring the comments over there. You're right about those comments being hate speech. That stuff was as bad as the comments at Hot Air.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:41:30pm |
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Olsonist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:41:50pm |
re: #641 reine.de.tout
Yes, I admitted there were some who did.
Is my name by that entry?
If you feel the need to add Reptile to the list and put my name next to I'll own up to it.
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:42:11pm |
re: #597 Varek Raith
Excuse my language but, That. Is. Fucking. Awesome!
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Lidane Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:42:11pm |
re: #595 negativ
That's SIR Patrick Stewart to you:
[Link: edition.cnn.com...]
And Sir Peter Jackson as well:
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Daniel Ballard Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:42:18pm |
re: #502 Olsonist
Sorry, I was using Reptiles as a nickname for Republicans before I registered at LGF. I kind of liked it but it obviously is confusing here so it goes in the dustbin.
Hello. Yes your 502
I see you have already met Mandy. :)
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Bagua Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:42:26pm |
re: #636 rwmofo
About 50%.
Wow!
In that case the Huffington Post is as despicable as Hot Air for allowing it.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:43:07pm |
re: #643 albusteve
I have a Reine charm on a chain around my neck...I sell them for 6 bucks a pop...wildly popular, jus sayin
Aw. . .
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Jaerik Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:43:32pm |
re: #654 Bagua
Wow!
In that case the Huffington Post is as despicable as Hot Air for allowing it.
They appear to be deleting them as fast as they come up. I can't find the ones quoted in this thread even a few minutes after they were posted.
Reflects poorly on their users, sure. But at least they're not allowing it, unlike Hot Air.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:43:34pm |
re: #650 Olsonist
If you feel the need to add Reptile to the list and put my name next to I'll own up to it.
I don't feel the need to do anything, 'cept try to finish the cookbook.
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rwmofo Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:43:36pm |
re: #640 Stanley Sea
They are deleted already, at least when I just just looked.
Looks like there's also a twitter feed that isn't being moderated. That's where the death wishes are pouring in.
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windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:44:17pm |
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:44:27pm |
I just went to Huffington Post and here are the comments there now:
I was on Twitter when I heard about this, and there are people that are actually happy about this. Look, I don't like the guy at all, but I don't wish ill health on anyone. I hope he has a speedy recovery, regardless of his politics.
Not a fan of Rush.
Not a fan of Rush's politics.
Not a fan of Rush's guests.
Not a fan of Rush's show.
That being said, I hope he survives this. I do not wish death on anyone.
Well um. What's that saying? If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all? I think that will apply to me in this post.
Queens hospital is one of the best in the Pacific. Good luck to a man with whom I frequently disagree.
As much as I despise Rush, I do not wish this for him and I hope he has a speedy recovery.
I don't agree with anything Rush says, but I hope he comes out of it alright.
I am soooo ashamed of my first reaction to this news.
I hope he has a speedy recovery.
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Lidane Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:45:00pm |
re: #628 negativ
I have a 15 year-old bootleg recording of his one-man-show performance of Dickins' "A Christmas Carol". I can't begin to understand why it was never released as a commercial product, because it's 9 million different kinds of awesome.
There's an audiobook of Patrick Stewart performing A Christmas Carol on iTunes. I downloaded it for the holidays.
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ryannon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:45:24pm |
re: #626 albusteve
you have original ideas?, cool...do you think Las Cruces NM should change their name?
Estrella de David NM?
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:46:06pm |
re: #660 windsagio
re: #654 Bagua
They're terrible comments but you're going a bit far; they're not racist or treasonous (secessionist).
*Note* I never would say its okay to wish someone is dead, so don't even try that.
All we said is that they are hate. Its hate aimed at a specific person, but hate nonetheless.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:47:23pm |
You know what, windsagio and olsonist can kiss my ass.
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Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:47:36pm |
Says he's in serious condition.
[Link: www.chron.com...]
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Bagua Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:47:49pm |
re: #657 Jaerik
They appear to be deleting them as fast as they come up. I can't find the ones quoted in this thread even a few minutes after they were posted.
Reflects poorly on their users, sure. But at least they're not allowing it, unlike Hot Air.
If they are deleting them then the owners are doing the right thing. Though I would question what they are writing to attract such commentators and why they ban reprobates.
But perhaps I'm being naive and it really is a cesspool out there, on the right and the left.
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windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:47:50pm |
re: #665 Dark_Falcon
no, you specifically said 'just as bad'.
They're bad, but not as bad.
I can understand people having problems with Huffpo (I can't stand the place myself, and I'm pretty lefty), but equating it to something like Hot Air is dirty pool.
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Olsonist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:47:55pm |
re: #666 MandyManners
You know what, windsagio and olsonist can kiss my ass.
Trust me. That's not going to happen.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:48:16pm |
re: #666 MandyManners
You know what, windsagio and olsonist can kiss my ass.
Don't invite them to do that, Mandy. They might like it. Invite them to perform the Rope Trick instead.
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Racer X Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:48:19pm |
re: #649 MandyManners
FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU.
Now, now Mandy. No need to go all caps.
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windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:48:38pm |
re: #670 Olsonist
why? have you seen a pic? It might be worth it.
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:49:17pm |
re: #666 MandyManners
You know what, windsagio and olsonist can kiss my ass.
And, yeah, windsagio, I think that this admistration is filled with amateurs against Putin, a veteran of the KGB.
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rwmofo Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:49:17pm |
re: #661 Stanley Sea
Good on you for saying that.
I hardly ever agree with the left, but that's simply an ideological disagreement. I don't hate people for seeing things differently than I do.
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John Neverbend Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:49:23pm |
re: #583 MandyManners
Were you a habitue of Alex Jones' or David Icke's site?
I remember David Icke when he was a sports presenter on British TV. Little did I know that he was destined to descend into the Marianas Trench of fuckwittery.
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freetoken Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:50:08pm |
Maybe the most significant story on the wires right now, from Reuters:
Midnight in the food-stamp economy
At 11 p.m. on the last day of the month, shoppers flock to the nearest Walmart. They load their carts with food and household items and wait for the midnight hour. That's when food stamp credits are loaded on their electronic benefits transfer cards.
U.S."Once the clock strikes midnight and EBT cards are charged, you can see our results start to tick up," says Tom Schoewe, Wal-Mart Stores Inc's chief financial officer.
As food stamps become an increasingly common currency in a struggling U.S. economy, they are dictating changes in how even the biggest retailers do business. [...]
As of September, a record of more than 37 million people were enrolled for the government benefit, federal officials told Reuters, an increase of nearly 35 percent since the U.S. slid into recession at the end of 2007.
An estimated one in eight Americans depends on the benefit to buy food. With the nation's unemployment in double digits, more people are expected to enroll. By some government estimates, up to 16 million people who are not receiving food stamps today could qualify. [...]
Nearly $55 billion in food stamps may be redeemed this year, up from about $37 billion in 2008 and $31 billion in 2007, according to The Nilson Report.
The USDA expects to have more than $64 billion to spend on food stamp benefits in fiscal 2010, including nearly $6 billion in anticipated stimulus money, up 14 percent from fiscal 2009. [...]
Like Contraeras, other food-stamp beneficiaries appear to waste little time cashing in their benefits. According to J.P. Morgan which administers EBT programs for more than 20 states, 85 percent of food stamps are depleted within the first three days they are available. [...]
Expecting the worst this time around, retailers are trying to reposition their business for what they call a "new normal," where jobs are scarcer, and more and more Americans depend on the government to make ends meet. [...]
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reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:50:16pm |
re: #664 albusteve
Reine is that type of gal...
[Video]
LOVED IT!
And I was seriously affected by Gustav.
My only quibble - they show Shreveport, and everybody knows, folks in Shreveport think they're part of Texas. LOL.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:50:23pm |
re: #668 Bagua
If they are deleting them then the owners are doing the right thing. Though I would question what they are writing to attract such commentators and why they ban reprobates.
But perhaps I'm being naive and it really is a cesspool out there, on the right and the left.
It's a cesspool everywhere in the land of anonymity. I judge by the moderation, what stays and what goes.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:50:28pm |
a little taste of Texas boogie....s'more Delbert for the noobs, generous guy that I am
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:51:15pm |
re: #623 talon_262
It would have been absolutely horrible...all aboard would have likely been lost, in addition to any casualties on the ground.
The right-wing wingnuts and other assorted crazies would most likely have had an orgasm over it because they would have made it the Obama administration's fault, victims be damned.
/wish I weren't so cynical...
Your putrid comment is over the line and makes you sound like a vicious moonbat.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:51:40pm |
re: #680 Stanley Sea
It's a cesspool everywhere in the land of anonymity. I judge by the moderation, what stays and what goes.
It's a cesspool except for here. Which is one of the many things I love about LGF.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:51:43pm |
re: #669 windsagio
no, you specifically said 'just as bad'.
They're bad, but not as bad.
I can understand people having problems with Huffpo (I can't stand the place myself, and I'm pretty lefty), but equating it to something like Hot Air is dirty pool.
Please reread my comment:
re: #647 Dark_Falcon
Not lately. They've been much better about monitoring the comments over there. You're right about those comments being hate speech. That stuff was as bad as the comments at Hot Air.
I was equating those specific comments only. HuffPo has become a good bit better than HA due to proper moderation. But those comments were vile, and they struck me as the equivalent of those who wish the Obama is killed when commenting on Hot Air.
| 685 |
Olsonist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:52:09pm |
re: #674 MandyManners
And, yeah, windsagio, I think that this admistration is filled with amateurs against Putin, a veteran of the KGB.
Ah Putin. I like how Bush looked into Putin's soul. Then when Putin invaded Georgia he waited to inform him at the Beijing Olympics. Talk about an amateur.
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:52:31pm |
re: #627 bagua
From MSNBC's Newsvine comment board:
Hmm, I guess he wanted to find an excuse to use his Oxi-Cotins..we all die sometime.....i just hope he craps out early
Hey Hawaii2....you're mistaken. I wish "bad health" and a speedy death for the fat slob.
now that would be a Happy New Year, Limp and Cheney dead
I hope the fat bastard gets what he deserves after blasting Obama's healthcare reform. No sympathy from me.
lets hope that heart of this stops all together, we all know the blood quit flowing to his brain a long time ago
And btw, those are cherry-picked. There are both civil and execrable comments over there.
| 687 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:52:33pm |
re: #676 John Neverbend
I remember David Icke when he was a sports presenter on British TV. Little did I know that he was destined to descend into the Marianas Trench of fuckwittery.
Oh, I love that word!
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Lidane Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:52:34pm |
re: #548 HelloDare
Limbaugh Rushed To Honolulu Hospital
Conservative Radio Show Host Suffering From Chest Pains
I'd be lying if I said I was a fan of his, but that sucks. I wouldn't wish a trip to the ER on anyone.
| 689 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:52:54pm |
re: #679 reine.de.tout
LOVED IT!
And I was seriously affected by Gustav.My only quibble - they show Shreveport, and everybody knows, folks in Shreveport think they're part of Texas. LOL.
and Texans think they are part of New Mexico!...hahaha!...you just can't stop those guys
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reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:53:23pm |
re: #688 Lidane
I'd be lying if I said I was a fan of his, but that sucks. I wouldn't wish a trip to the ER on anyone.
I'm not a fan either, reptile, er Republican that I am.
But I don't wish harm on anyone.
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MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:53:26pm |
re: #649 MandyManners
FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU.
WTF, Mandy?!?
You certainly left my ears burning with that one, but it was completely unnecessary. You know (or maybe not, in which case I'm saying it now), my "right-wing wingnut" remark doesn't apply to you or anyone else here in present company (that I know of). It is reserved for the truly off-the-deep-end "conservatives", the Alex Jones types, that would look for any way to stick President Obama with the blame for any incident such as what could have happened with that Northwest flight, whether the blame was justified or not.
I'm just glad Mr. Hot Pants' little scheme didn't work, because 300+ people were able to walk away from it.
| 692 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:53:44pm |
re: #678 freetoken
Maybe the most significant story on the wires right now, from Reuters:
and more and more Americans depend on the government to make ends meet.
We are so fucked.
| 693 |
Jaerik Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:53:53pm |
re: #680 Stanley Sea
It's a cesspool everywhere in the land of anonymity. I judge by the moderation, what stays and what goes.
Same for me. We'll have to see if the lefty sites do a better job at moderating that filth than the righty ones. So far, HuffPo seems to be doing an admirable job.
| 694 |
Sheila Broflovski Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:54:04pm |
re: #633 Gus 802
Demonrats shows up in the LGF Etymological Dictionary.
Well, that was a trip down memory lane.
| 695 |
windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:54:20pm |
re: #684 Dark_Falcon
well, to my view the moderation is all the difference. It is the internet after all... And I dunno, If I have something I'm hypersensitive to its that 'but the Democrats...' Tu Quoque bullcrap so I'll tend to jump on it.
Your clarification makes alot of sense tho >> so I apologize ;)
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jaunte Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:54:24pm |
There are nasty people from many spots on the political spectrum who don't scruple to use a murderous terrorist attack to score political points. We've seen it before, and it will probably happen again. The tendency isn't confined either to far-right conservatives or far-left liberals.
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Varek Raith Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:54:33pm |
re: #680 Stanley Sea
It's a cesspool everywhere in the land of anonymity. I judge by the moderation, what stays and what goes.
| 698 |
rwmofo Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:54:47pm |
More from Huffington Post:
ScaryBob I'm a Fan of ScaryBob I'm a fan of this user 7 fans permalink
No, I don't want him to dye suddenly. It should be very very sloe and pane-full. So he can truly understand how broken our health care system iz!!!!!
Reply Favorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 PM on 12/30/2009
Didderbops I'm a Fan of Didderbops I'm a fan of this user 5 fans permalink
photo
The amount of pain and suffering he has inflicted in his time warrants a painful ticket out of here, in my view.
Reply Posted 10:51 PM on 12/30/2009
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WindHorse Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:55:32pm |
| 701 |
Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:56:02pm |
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Olsonist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:56:28pm |
re: #700 WindHorse
unlike our current leader - huh?
/Obama isn't qualified to manage a 7-11.
Yes, but unlike you I gave two warrants to back my claim.
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:56:36pm |
re: #688 Lidane
I'd be lying if I said I was a fan of his, but that sucks. I wouldn't wish a trip to the ER on anyone.
Updinged for class.
| 704 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:56:40pm |
re: #695 windsagio
well, to my view the moderation is all the difference. It is the internet after all... And I dunno, If I have something I'm hypersensitive to its that 'but the Democrats...' Tu Quoque bullcrap so I'll tend to jump on it.
Your clarification makes alot of sense tho >> so I apologize ;)
Apology accepted.
| 705 |
windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:56:54pm |
re: #698 rwmofo
God, I hate having to defend them. Given that that was pulled 4 minutes after it was posted, how long is reasonable for moderators to catch posts like that on a truly high volume site?
| 706 |
laZardo Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:57:56pm |
Good midday, honcos!
12 hours left in 2009 over here and in a simple ceremony I have awarded myself the Order of the Bottom Commenter, 1st Class. :D
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John Neverbend Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:58:14pm |
re: #606 jaunte
They've knighted Lenin!
[Link: www.trevorgriffiths.co.uk...]
Right. My old man always referred to him as Lenin. He was also Karla nin Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy (and many other characters since then).
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MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:58:57pm |
People you got the power over what we do.
| 709 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:59:14pm |
re: #706 laZardo
Good midday, honcos!
12 hours left in 2009 over here and in a simple ceremony I have awarded myself the Order of the Bottom Commenter, 1st Class. :D
I'm not going to say it, its too easy.
| 710 |
jaunte Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:59:18pm |
re: #707 John Neverbend
He did a great job with that part in the Fall of Eagles tv series.
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Mocking Jay Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:59:23pm |
re: #705 windsagio
God, I hate having to defend them. Given that that was pulled 4 minutes after it was posted, how long is reasonable for moderators to catch posts like that on a truly high volume site?
Looking at Hot Air I'm guessing eight, maybe nine months? Just a shot in the dark...
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WindHorse Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:59:33pm |
re: #702 Olsonist
I was never a huge fan of GWB.... but compared to Obama.... wow... I miss him.
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MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Dec 30, 2009 7:59:41pm |
re: #682 Spare O'Lake
Your putrid comment is over the line and makes you sound like a vicious moonbat.
Please read my reply to Mandy...there's apparently a huge miscommunication between what I meant and what y'all read.
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Olsonist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:00:08pm |
re: #712 WindHorse
I was never a huge fan of GWB... but compared to Obama... wow... I miss him.
Did you vote for him?
| 716 |
Bagua Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:00:12pm |
re: #660 windsagio
re: #654 Bagua
They're terrible comments but you're going a bit far; they're not racist or treasonous (secessionist).
Yes I agree Racism is especially ugly, and would nominate wishing someone dead as especially ugly as well. Both arise from hatred and ignorance. Both are despicable and should be denounced.
*Note* I never would say its okay to wish someone is dead, so don't even try that.
I would never try to twist someones words in that manner, if I disagree with you, I debate what you actually say. Insinuating someone is saying something they don't mean is arguing, not debating. You won't see that from me.
| 717 |
Jaerik Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:00:17pm |
re: #692 Dark_Falcon
and more and more Americans depend on the government to make ends meet.
We are so fucked.
Even scarier but not mentioned in the article, 1 in 4 children now depend on them.
| 718 |
laZardo Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:00:18pm |
re: #709 Dark_Falcon
I'm not going to say it, its too easy.
I'm actually more surprised that people actually updinged my notorious #9.
| 719 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:00:22pm |
re: #686 The Sanity Inspector
From MSNBC's Newsvine comment board:
And btw, those are cherry-picked. There are both civil and execrable comments over there.
We need to remember, I would think that the actual number of people making comments is so small compared to the number who read an article or whatever.
For instance, today at LGF, at the current moment:
There were in excess of 84,000 page views
There were in excess of 59,000 visits
Now on line: 1,652
Logged in: 114
Viewing this thread: 66
Actually participating and commenting: Fewer than 66
| 720 |
MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:00:40pm |
| 722 |
jaunte Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:01:03pm |
re: #719 reine.de.tout
Actually participating and commenting: Fewer than 66
But we contain multitudes.
| 723 |
windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:01:21pm |
re: #716 Bagua
Well there are a few people on here who have been known to do that, so... >>
| 725 |
Jaerik Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:01:42pm |
re: #721 WindHorse
I did vote for Bush once.
So did I, in 2004 no less. Without hyperbole, I consider it one of the worst mistakes of my adult life.
| 726 |
Olsonist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:01:44pm |
| 727 |
Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:02:05pm |
Some other comments at Huffington Post regarding Rush:
Prayers for Rush everyone.
-
Good luck, Mr. Limbaugh. I hope to hear you back on the radio 100% on Monday.
-
Hope he gets well soon.. Its time he retired though..
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Hope he's okay. That rapid weight loss this year probably took its toll.
-
I thought about that one too. I wish Rush all the best. Liberal or conservative, he is a master at his craft. Our prayers are with you, Rush.
-
Gotta tell you folks. I'm really impressed. I'm a hard core conservative and occasionally lurk around here to see what you folks are squawking about. Thanks for taking the high road on this one. You may not agree with Rush's commentary (I don't sometimes), but you're really showing your human side on this one.
-
I wish him well despite God knows I despise his politics. Hopefully, he will survive whatever ails him, and speak with a different voice should he recover. This is the second wake up call God is sending Rush; I trust he takes heed.
| 728 |
WindHorse Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:02:17pm |
re: #726 Olsonist
fair enough.... it's what makes the world go round....
| 729 |
SteveC Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:03:11pm |
re: #724 prairiefire
Your check is in the mail.
Just don't invite me out to Ed's House of Liver! *shudder*
| 730 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:03:20pm |
re: #691 talon_262
WTF, Mandy?!?
You certainly left my ears burning with that one, but it was completely unnecessary. You know (or maybe not, in which case I'm saying it now), my "right-wing wingnut" remark doesn't apply to you or anyone else here in present company (that I know of). It is reserved for the truly off-the-deep-end "conservatives", the Alex Jones types, that would look for any way to stick President Obama with the blame for any incident such as what could have happened with that Northwest flight, whether the blame was justified or not.
I'm just glad Mr. Hot Pants' little scheme didn't work, because 300+ people were able to walk away from it.
Oh, dear me, Mr. Talon.
I apologize sorta'.
Emotions are hot and bothered and rational thinking sometimes is skewed.
Please accept my apology.
| 731 |
Olsonist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:04:25pm |
re: #728 WindHorse
fair enough... it's what makes the world go round...
I've voted for a couple of politicians who turned out to be real turds. You have to keep score for yourself.
| 732 |
rwmofo Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:05:05pm |
re: #705 windsagio
God, I hate having to defend them. Given that that was pulled 4 minutes after it was posted, how long is reasonable for moderators to catch posts like that on a truly high volume site?
Still coming:
HJSV I'm a Fan of HJSV I'm a fan of this user 3 fans permalink
photo
If true, this is the first good news of the new year.
Reply Posted 10:54 PM on 12/30/2009
bluguy8 I'm a Fan of bluguy8 I'm a fan of this user 25 fans permalink
karma is a wonderful thing
Reply Posted 10:55 PM on 12/30/2009
This is from th twitter feed:
akcook: Cheers! RT @amazingatheist: Rush Limbaugh hospitalized with chest pains. Let's all hope he dies.
2 minutes ago from Echofon
AlligatorShuz I'm a Fan of AlligatorShuz I'm a fan of this user 13 fans permalink
photo
Well, karma!!!
OK, I'm tired of slogging through the hate at HP. This confirmed the obvious for me however.
| 733 |
MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:05:35pm |
re: #730 MandyManners
Oh, dear me, Mr. Talon.
I apologize sorta'.
Emotions are hot and bothered and rational thinking sometimes is skewed.
Please accept my apology.
It's cool...no harm, no foul.
| 735 |
WindHorse Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:06:29pm |
| 736 |
Varek Raith Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:06:40pm |
re: #734 JasonA
Can one actually moderate a Twitter feed?
I was just gonna ask that...
*activates Google-Fu mode*
| 737 |
Stuart Leviton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:07:03pm |
re: #649 MandyManners
FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU.
Oh, I recognize that quote. That's from a David Mamet play.
| 738 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:07:59pm |
| 739 |
SteveC Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:08:14pm |
re: #734 JasonA
Can one actually moderate a Twitter feed?
I think the only way is self moderation - you don't like it, don't read it.
| 740 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:08:19pm |
re: #734 JasonA
Can one actually moderate a Twitter feed?
I don't think so.
If you use tweetdeck or tweetgrid, you can search for the twitter accounts you want to follow, or use the tags to get tweets labelled with the tags you're interested in.
Or have I misunderstood you?
But whatever comes through is what you've got.
| 741 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:08:31pm |
re: #737 Stuart Leviton
Oh, I recognize that quote. That's from a David Mamet play.
Oh, you're so fine!
| 742 |
goddamnedfrank Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:08:34pm |
re: #649 MandyManners
re: #682 Spare O'Lake
Curious, do you two identify with the "wingnuts and other assorted crazies," or simply deny that such people exist on (if not dominate) the modern American right-wing? Really, why is LFG such a rare site, and does it or does it not represent the last bastion of rational conservatism on the web? Rarely have I witnessed such deliberate misinterpretations of a Lizard's post as you two have made of talon_262's #623.
| 743 |
windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:08:56pm |
re: #732 rwmofo
Well maybe it confirmed what you wanted to believe.
Do you get the whole 'moderation' discussion? Any forum or blog or feed is gonna be full of assholes. All you can really look at is how the site-owners deal with it, nothing else is really meaningful.
In your case, yer just seeking confirmation for your hate of the Huffington Post.
| 744 |
windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:09:15pm |
re: #732 rwmofo
ps: believe it or not, the internet is full of terrible people.
| 745 |
MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:09:16pm |
re: #732 rwmofo
Still coming:
HJSV I'm a Fan of HJSV I'm a fan of this user 3 fans permalink
photoIf true, this is the first good news of the new year.
Reply Posted 10:54 PM on 12/30/2009bluguy8 I'm a Fan of bluguy8 I'm a fan of this user 25 fans permalink
karma is a wonderful thing
Reply Posted 10:55 PM on 12/30/2009This is from th twitter feed:
akcook: Cheers! RT @amazingatheist: Rush Limbaugh hospitalized with chest pains. Let's all hope he dies.
2 minutes ago from EchofonAlligatorShuz I'm a Fan of AlligatorShuz I'm a fan of this user 13 fans permalink
photoWell, karma!!!
OK, I'm tired of slogging through the hate at HP. This confirmed the obvious for me however.
Uggghhhhhh....bunch of lovely human beings, aren't they?
I used to like Rush, but I haven't for a while...I certainly don't bear any ill will towards him though.
| 746 |
Bagua Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:09:51pm |
re: #723 windsagio
Well there are a few people on here who have been known to do that, so... >>
Yes there are my friend. You strike me as someone who holds your side fairly.
| 747 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:09:51pm |
re: #730 MandyManners
Oh, dear me, Mr. Talon.
I apologize sorta'.
Emotions are hot and bothered and rational thinking sometimes is skewed.
Please accept my apology.
No. I apologize completely and abjectly.
| 748 |
prairiefire Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:10:29pm |
re: #667 Gus 802
Isn't that standard for press releases from hospitals.
Oy, Kill Bill is on for the tri-millioneth time.
| 750 |
Mocking Jay Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:11:13pm |
| 751 |
rwmofo Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:11:17pm |
re: #743 windsagio
Well maybe it confirmed what you wanted to believe.
Do you get the whole 'moderation' discussion? Any forum or blog or feed is gonna be full of assholes. All you can really look at is how the site-owners deal with it, nothing else is really meaningful.
In your case, yer just seeking confirmation for your hate of the Huffington Post.
I didn't say I hated anyone or anything. Knock off the projection.
| 752 |
CapeCoddah Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:11:34pm |
re: #725 Jaerik
So did I, in 2004 no less. Without hyperbole, I consider it one of the worst mistakes of my adult life.
Your option was John Kerry. Trust me, as a lifelong Massachusetts resident, you did NOT make the worst mistake of your adult life. I have met John Kerry, many, many times. The only thing John Kerry is an expert on is where the closest mirror is.
| 753 |
Olsonist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:11:43pm |
re: #748 prairiefire
Isn't that standard for press releases from hospitals.
Oy, Kill Bill is on for the tri-millioneth time.
QT is like Woody Allen to me. Loved his early stuff. Wish he'd go away.
| 754 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:11:53pm |
re: #742 goddamnedfrank
re: #682 Spare O'Lake
Curious, do you two identify with the "wingnuts and other assorted crazies," or simply deny that such people exist on (if not dominate) the modern American right-wing? Really, why is LFG such a rare site, and does it or does it not represent the last bastion of rational conservatism on the web? Rarely have I witnessed such deliberate misinterpretations of a Lizard's post as you two have made of talon_262's #623.
Why don't you learn how to join in the debate?
| 755 |
Racer X Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:11:55pm |
re: #678 freetoken
Maybe the most significant story on the wires right now, from Reuters:
Amateurs.
Why wait in line at midnight? I get my stuff the next day - it aint going anywhere.
| 756 |
Mocking Jay Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:13:03pm |
re: #755 Racer X
Amateurs.
Why wait in line at midnight? I get my stuff the next day - it aint going anywhere.
Maybe they're hungry? I dunno.
| 757 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:13:12pm |
re: #732 rwmofo
I don't think the Moderators at the HuffPo agree with those comments, but clearly a notable portion of their readers do. That leaves the Huffington Post better than Hot Air, but still with a major hater problem. And that's my analysis, done with honest effort to be objective.
| 758 |
MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:13:16pm |
re: #747 MandyManners
No. I apologize completely and abjectly.
Like I said, it's cool...come and let us adjourn, so we may practice some YouTube-fu to find some more killer tunes!
;-P
| 759 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:14:19pm |
re: #750 JasonA
No no, I think we're on the same page. All you need do on Twitter is send a tweet like
@HuffPo insert ignorant comment here
and the recipient can't moderate it.
correct.
They just have to ignore you.
For example, I get tweets from former LGFers telling me what a completely brainless idiot I am for not flouncing off, and I just have to ignore them.
Then I block them.
| 760 |
laZardo Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:14:21pm |
re: #757 Dark_Falcon
I don't think the Moderators at the HuffPo agree with those comments, but clearly a notable portion of their readers do. That leaves the Huffington Post better than Hot Air, but still with a major hater problem. And that's my analysis, done with honest effort to be objective.
Don't hate the poster, hate the game.
/word.
| 761 |
Bagua Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:14:23pm |
re: #742 goddamnedfrank
Must you be so god damned frank, frank?
| 762 |
windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:14:35pm |
re: #751 rwmofo
projection? I think you're misusing the word some.
Also! Of course you didn't say you hated them! The whole thing would never work then >>
/Hows this: I'll meet ya half way. Perhaps you're not just being a hater... I'd be willing to concede that you might be trying to make Hot Air look 'not so bad' too
| 763 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:14:42pm |
re: #737 Stuart Leviton
Oh, I recognize that quote. That's from a David Mamet play.
"Let's talk about something important. Put. That coffee. Down!"
| 764 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:15:15pm |
re: #742 goddamnedfrank
re: #682 Spare O'Lake
Curious, do you two identify with the "wingnuts and other assorted crazies," or simply deny that such people exist on (if not dominate) the modern American right-wing? Really, why is LFG such a rare site, and does it or does it not represent the last bastion of rational conservatism on the web? Rarely have I witnessed such deliberate misinterpretations of a Lizard's post as you two have made of talon_262's #623.
we're all extreme, racist radicals here..as for misrepresented posts, that gets cleared up sooner or later...we fucking DOMINATE dude..LGF is the ultimate voice of dominating, one dimensional thought and conservatives here are PROUD of our deliberate misinterprtations....we THRIVE on deceit and fraud...stand back wimp
| 765 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:15:46pm |
re: #752 CapeCoddah
Your option was John Kerry. Trust me, as a lifelong Massachusetts resident, you did NOT make the worst mistake of your adult life. I have met John Kerry, many, many times. The only thing John Kerry is an expert on is where the closest mirror is.
Quite Concur. Neither candidate was first-rate, but George W. Bush was by far the better option. Kerry is a feckless back-bencher whose primary loyalty is to himself.
| 766 |
rwmofo Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:15:47pm |
re: #757 Dark_Falcon
I don't think the Moderators at the HuffPo agree with those comments, but clearly a notable portion of their readers do. That leaves the Huffington Post better than Hot Air, but still with a major hater problem. And that's my analysis, done with honest effort to be objective.
Yeah, there were a few taking the high road - and some (2-3) right-leaners were also calling them out.
| 767 |
MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:16:15pm |
re: #742 goddamnedfrank
re: #682 Spare O'Lake
Curious, do you two identify with the "wingnuts and other assorted crazies," or simply deny that such people exist on (if not dominate) the modern American right-wing? Really, why is LFG such a rare site, and does it or does it not represent the last bastion of rational conservatism on the web? Rarely have I witnessed such deliberate misinterpretations of a Lizard's post as you two have made of talon_262's #623.
Hey, it's cool...there apparently some miscommunication with my first post, but I clarified it with a followup post and all is square now.
/it's almost New Year's Eve, a time to let bygones be bygones...
| 768 |
MandyManners Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:16:19pm |
re: #758 talon_262
Like I said, it's cool...come and let us adjourn, so we may practice some YouTube-fu to find some more killer tunes!
;-P
I am embarassed.
| 769 |
windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:16:31pm |
Totally OT, but I loathe the record companies. It makes me crazy how they pull cool things off of Youtube.
| 770 |
Jaerik Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:16:46pm |
Wow, the Fark thread on this is pretty nasty, too.
What happened to them? I've hung out over at Fark since 2003 and they used to be about amusing headlines, poking fun at the absurdity of mainstream news. These days they seem (especially in their Politics tab) to green-light the most incendiary headlines they can to whip up a shitstorm, then look the other way when the poo-flinging starts. Is it all about driving ad impressions?
| 771 |
windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:17:05pm |
re: #769 windsagio
err that used to be a live performance of Touch of Grey
| 772 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:17:28pm |
re: #759 reine.de.tout
correct.
They just have to ignore you.For example, I get tweets from former LGFers telling me what a completely brainless idiot I am for not flouncing off, and I just have to ignore them.
Then I block them.
They call me names too, reine. That's why I'm not on Facebook. I'd spend half my time there getting called "Dork_Falcon" by people who think I'm simply Charles' stooge.
| 773 |
windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:17:59pm |
re: #770 Jaerik
some people really love that kind of thing. Alot of folks get off on being angry.
| 774 |
jaunte Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:18:21pm |
re: #770 Jaerik
I think the behavior is related to this:
The tragedy of the commons refers to a dilemma described in an influential article by that name written by Garrett Hardin and first published in the journal Science in 1968. The article describes a situation in which multiple individuals, acting independently, and solely and rationally consulting their own self-interest, will ultimately deplete a shared limited resource even when it is clear that it is not in anyone's long-term interest for this to happen.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
| 775 |
Mocking Jay Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:18:29pm |
re: #773 windsagio
some people really love that kind of thing. Alot of folks get off on being angry.
In bed.
| 776 |
Only The Lurker Knows Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:18:31pm |
An interesting day for a lurker.
I will depart with T_262 advice at 758.
Don Williams
God Night All
| 777 |
MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:18:36pm |
re: #764 albusteve
we're all extreme, racist radicals here..as for misrepresented posts, that gets cleared up sooner or later...we fucking DOMINATE dude..LGF is the ultimate voice of dominating, one dimensional thought and conservatives here are PROUD of our deliberate misinterprtations...we THRIVE on deceit and fraud...stand back wimp
The sarcasm's so heavy with that one, Steve, it's dripping onto the floor and oozing down the hall...
/// ;-P
| 778 |
rwmofo Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:18:46pm |
re: #762 windsagio
projection? I think you're misusing the word some.
Also! Of course you didn't say you hated them! The whole thing would never work then >>
/Hows this: I'll meet ya half way. Perhaps you're not just being a hater... I'd be willing to concede that you might be trying to make Hot Air look 'not so bad' too
Find a comment of mine where I defended, or even mentioned, Hot Air.
Better yet, feel free to scroll past my name.
| 779 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:18:48pm |
Outrage of the day... overly sensitive conservatives outraged at remarks about Rush Limbaugh at Huffington Post.
| 780 |
Spare O'Lake Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:19:32pm |
re: #713 talon_262
Please read my reply to Mandy...there's apparently a huge miscommunication between what I meant and what y'all read.
No miscommunication on my part. You said that the right wing of the GOP would have been sexually aroused by a successful Islamofascist terror attack in which hundreds of innocents were killed. That kind of demonization is just plain disgusting and it diminishes you because you have seen fit to make such a terrible, unfounded accusation. And of course you cannot prove it because it didn't happen, so it is entirely speculative to boot.
None of which is meant as support for any of the awful policies of the far right.
| 782 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:19:41pm |
re: #772 Dark_Falcon
They call me names too, reine. That's why I'm not on Facebook. I'd spend half my time there getting called "Dork_Falcon" by people who think I'm simply Charles' stooge.
Yes, I've been called that too.
I also accidentally retweeted the "brainless idiot" tweet - hahahaha on me!
I've also blocked certain folks from FB.
| 783 |
Sharmuta Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:19:53pm |
re: #770 Jaerik
Wow, the Fark thread on this is pretty nasty, too.
What happened to them? I've hung out over at Fark since 2003 and they used to be about amusing headlines, poking fun at the absurdity of mainstream news. These days they seem (especially in their Politics tab) to green-light the most incendiary headlines they can to whip up a shitstorm, then look the other way when the poo-flinging starts. Is it all about driving ad impressions?
Yeah... moderation issues aren't the sole problem of the right-wing blogosphere. Irrational hatred doesn't know political boundaries.
| 784 |
Bagua Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:20:05pm |
re: #764 albusteve
we're all extreme, racist radicals here..as for misrepresented posts, that gets cleared up sooner or later...we fucking DOMINATE dude..LGF is the ultimate voice of dominating, one dimensional thought and conservatives here are PROUD of our deliberate misinterprtations...we THRIVE on deceit and fraud...stand back wimp
Badmind Anthem
| 785 |
Girth Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:20:18pm |
re: #753 Olsonist
QT is like Woody Allen to me. Loved his early stuff. Wish he'd go away.
I think Kill Bill is fantastic. Very Sergio Leone-esque, right down to the music.
| 786 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:20:20pm |
re: #773 windsagio
some people really love that kind of thing. Alot of folks get off on being angry.
And the ability the Internet gives people to fling nasty insults at a person, but not to their face adds to the problem. Many, many people are simply more belligerent online than they are in real life. I know I am.
| 788 |
MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:21:21pm |
A little classical music for your pleasure, care of Beaker:
| 789 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:21:23pm |
re: #783 Sharmuta
Yeah... moderation issues aren't the sole problem of the right-wing blogosphere. Irrational hatred doesn't know political boundaries.
What are you talking about. The left doesn't have irrational hatred problems.
| 791 |
windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:21:36pm |
re: #786 Dark_Falcon
I'd feel safe putting 'everyone' in that sentence.
Some of us just occasoinally try to rein it in ;)
| 793 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:22:50pm |
| 794 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:22:53pm |
re: #784 Bagua
Badmind Anthem
[Video]
-Elephant Man
bummer, my new computer will not plat MP3s for some reason...when I ask why I get no explanation
| 795 |
WindHorse Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:23:01pm |
I wonder how many hours I have worked in 2009.....
way too many I am sure.
| 797 |
Varek Raith Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:23:22pm |
re: #786 Dark_Falcon
And the ability the Internet gives people to fling nasty insults at a person, but not to their face adds to the problem. Many, many people are simply more belligerent online than they are in real life. I know I am.
I find it somewhat amusing that I'm more belligerent IRL than I am on the Interwebz...
:)
| 798 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:23:33pm |
re: #779 Walter L. Newton
Outrage of the day... overly sensitive conservatives outraged at remarks about Rush Limbaugh at Huffington Post.
Five up dings. I think I made my point. To bed, got to price furniture some more tomorrow.
| 800 |
laZardo Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:23:38pm |
re: #785 Girth
I think Kill Bill is fantastic. Very Sergio Leone-esque, right down to the music.
| 801 |
prairiefire Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:24:07pm |
re: #785 Girth
I know, but it is re-played, and re-played, and re-played. My husband watches it every time.
| 802 |
webevintage Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:24:31pm |
re: #563 albusteve
I am a bread head, as are both my kids...I don't make it but have a high regard for those that do...an ancient art...I like bread talk and the like...I eat all kinds of strange breads, I don't know where they come from or their history but I like breadtime stories
I tried a new bread recipe today, a no knead one that is cooked in a dutch oven.
Turned out pretty good, nice and crusty...rustic...
| 803 |
Racer X Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:24:32pm |
'Twas the Night After Redneck Christmas
'Twas the night after Christmas and all through the trailer,
the beer had gone flat and the pizza was staler.
The tube socks hung empty, no candies or toys,
and I was camped out on my old Lay-Z-Boy.
The kids they weren't talking to me or my wife,
the worst Christmas they said, that they'd had in their life.
My wife couldn't argue and neither could I,
so I watched TV and my wife, well, she just cried.
When out in the yard the dog started barkin',
I stood up and looked and I saw ol' Sheriff Larkin.
He yelled, " Roy I am sworn to uphold the laws,
and I got a complaint here from a feller named Claus."
I said, "Claus, I don't know nobody named Claus,
and you ain't taking me in without probable cause."
Then the Sheriff he said, "The man was shot at last night."
I said, "That might have been me, just what's he look like."
The Sheriff replied, "Well he's a jolly old feller,
with a big beer gut belly, that shakes when he laughs like a bowl full of jelly.
"He sports a long beard, and a nose like a cherry."
I said, "Sheriff that sounds like my wife's sister, Sherri."
"It's no time for jokes Roy ," the Sheriff he said.
"The man I'm describing in dressed all in red.
"I'm here for the truth now, it's time to come clean.
Tell me what you've done, tell me what you have seen."
Well I started to lie then I thought what the hell --
it wouldn't be the first time I've spent New Years in jail.
I said, "Sheriff it happened last night about ten,
and I thought that my wife had been drinking again."
"When she walked in from work she was as white as a ghost.
I thought maybe she had seen one of them UFO's.
"But she said that a bunch of deer had just flown over her head,
and stopped on the roof of our good neighbour Red.
"Well I ran outside to look and the sight made me shudder,
a freezer full of venison standing right on Red's gutter.
"Well my hands were a shakin' as I grabbed me my gun,
when outta Red's chimney this feller did run.
"And slung on his back was this bag over flowin'.
I thought he stolen Red's stuff while he was out bowling'.
"I yelled, 'Drop it fat boy, put yer hands in the air!'
But he went about his business like he hadn't a care.
"So I popped a warning shot right over his head.
But he dropped that bag and he jumped in that sled.
"And as he flew off I heard him exhort,
'That's assault with intent Roy , I'll see ya in court!'"
| 805 |
Daniel Ballard Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:24:55pm |
For our enjoyment, some prog rock from a while ago.
Song For America
| 807 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:25:28pm |
re: #797 Varek Raith
I find it somewhat amusing that I'm more belligerent IRL than I am on the Interwebz...
:)
I am too, actually.
In fact, I scare people.
The ladies who I used to supervise called me "Attila".
| 808 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:26:17pm |
Just checked Huffington Post again - I think this one is pretty good:
"I think the doctor will find that the key problem with his heart is that it is 3 sizes too small."
I love the Grinch.
| 809 |
windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:26:52pm |
re: #785 Girth
I also hate MGM, I was gonna link the ending to "For a few Dollars More"
| 810 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:26:55pm |
re: #802 webevintage
I tried a new bread recipe today, a no knead one that is cooked in a dutch oven.
Turned out pretty good, nice and crusty...rustic...
I'm too lazy to try and make bread...I have my moms antique family bread recipe...I'd rather complain
| 811 |
Sheila Broflovski Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:27:11pm |
Dumbass Comment of the Day, on another blog I read sometimes, regarding TSA full-body scanners:
These new full-body scanners are extremely hazardous to your health. I read that they emit radiation so strong that it's capable of unwinding your DNA strands.
Teh stupid! It burns!
| 812 |
Mocking Jay Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:27:51pm |
It's pointless to wish ill will on Rush. He's part of an institution. If he should pass another will simply rise to his place. We'll still have Hannity, Levin, etc. And besides, who else has a fan base who willingly accept the label "dittoheads?"
Nah, I say get better, Rush. I can only stomach you for thirty minutes at a time, but fortunately my drive to work only takes twenty-five.
| 813 |
Interesting Times Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:27:56pm |
If anyone's interested, here's the Daily Kos thread on Limbaugh:
Rush Limbaugh listed in serious condition at HI hospital
Comment from that thread with an LGF shoutout:
I don't know but i do remember LGF threatening to ban anyone who talked trash about Kennedy when he died, and also when he was first diagnosed. Not bc they agreed with the policies but bc it just shows the ignorance of the people who do and i personally think that anyone on kos who makes remarks like some here are, embarrass themselves and us.
| 814 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:27:58pm |
re: #811 Alouette
Dumbass Comment of the Day, on another blog I read sometimes, regarding TSA full-body scanners:
Teh stupid! It burns!
"unwinding your DNA strands"?
ROFLMAO!
How funny is that?
| 815 |
Sheila Broflovski Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:27:58pm |
re: #802 webevintage
I tried a new bread recipe today, a no knead one that is cooked in a dutch oven.
Turned out pretty good, nice and crusty...rustic...
Tomorrow is my day for baking challah.
| 816 |
WindHorse Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:28:08pm |
I love my dog.
(and I miss the dog of mine that die this year....)
| 817 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:28:08pm |
re: #765 Dark_Falcon
Quite Concur. Neither candidate was first-rate, but George W. Bush was by far the better option. Kerry is a feckless back-bencher whose primary loyalty is to himself.
Thanks to Bush's aggressive prosecution of the WOT, we are alive & thus able to second-guess him for the rest of our lives.
| 818 |
prairiefire Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:28:13pm |
You know, one article I read showed the lady's nips in the full body scan photo. Ewwwww.
| 819 |
laZardo Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:28:17pm |
re: #811 Alouette
Maybe if I take a nap inside the LHC tunnels I can get turned into an omniscient yet utterly apathetic blue-skinned superman.
/why would I save a grill I no longer have any steak in?
| 821 |
Varek Raith Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:28:25pm |
re: #811 Alouette
Dumbass Comment of the Day, on another blog I read sometimes, regarding TSA full-body scanners:
Teh stupid! It burns!
Sounds like the plot to a bad SciFi channel movie. :/
| 822 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:28:47pm |
re: #814 reine.de.tout
"unwinding your DNA strands"?
ROFLMAO!How funny is that?
I mean, they're not worried about being seen naked by a complete stranger - they're worried about their DNA strands being unwound?
What would happen if your DNA strands were unwound?
| 823 |
Vambo Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:28:47pm |
re: #811 Alouette
Dumbass Comment of the Day, on another blog I read sometimes, regarding TSA full-body scanners:
Teh stupid! It burns!
Dude, that sounds awesome.
| 824 |
Girth Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:28:52pm |
re: #809 windsagio
I also hate MGM, I was gonna link the ending to "For a few Dollars More"
Best DVD buy I ever made was finding that movie in a $2.99 bin at Wal-Mart a few years ago.
| 825 |
prairiefire Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:29:11pm |
re: #813 publicityStunted
Bet they try to get in on the next open registration.
| 826 |
windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:29:16pm |
re: #822 reine.de.tout
I mean, they're not worried about being seen naked by a complete stranger - they're worried about their DNA strands being unwound?
What would happen if your DNA strands were unwound?
Isn't that how you get super powers?
| 828 |
Bagua Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:29:34pm |
re: #794 albusteve
bummer, my new computer will not plat MP3s for some reason...when I ask why I get no explanation
Can it play an MP3 that's not on the blog?
If yes, you just need to download Flashplayer. The browser doesn't come with it.
| 829 |
Racer X Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:29:48pm |
| 830 |
Sheila Broflovski Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:30:22pm |
re: #822 reine.de.tout
I mean, they're not worried about being seen naked by a complete stranger - they're worried about their DNA strands being unwound?
What would happen if your DNA strands were unwound?
You'd either evaporate or turn into some kind of monster, at least according to novels I've read and movies I've watched.
| 831 |
Bagua Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:30:26pm |
re: #798 Walter L. Newton
Five up dings. I think I made my point. To bed, got to price furniture some more tomorrow.
Ten upding, be accurate.
| 832 |
Mocking Jay Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:30:40pm |
re: #821 Varek Raith
Sounds like the plot to a bad SciFi channel movie. :/
Wait... there are good Sci-Fi channel movies? (And I'm talking about that crap they put on Saturday nights, not the mini-series like Lost Room which rocked)
| 833 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:30:56pm |
re: #826 windsagio
Isn't that how you get super powers?
I'm still laughing!
Either super powers, OR you're vaporized. Which one, do you think?
| 834 |
Jaerik Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:31:31pm |
re: #822 reine.de.tout
I mean, they're not worried about being seen naked by a complete stranger - they're worried about their DNA strands being unwound?
What would happen if your DNA strands were unwound?
They're unwound millions of times a day as part of regular cell division. Silly people.
I'm just floored at folks who think we should do "whatever it takes" to stop terrorism but reject full body scanners because some stranger might see a ghosted-out shot of their naughty bits.
| 836 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:31:36pm |
| 837 |
Girth Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:31:37pm |
re: #832 JasonA
Wait... there are good Sci-Fi channel movies? (And I'm talking about that crap they put on Saturday nights, not the mini-series like Lost Room which rocked)
Lost Room was AWESOME!
| 838 |
Olsonist Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:32:01pm |
| 839 |
Spare O'Lake Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:32:02pm |
re: #742 goddamnedfrank
re: #682 Spare O'Lake
Curious, do you two identify with the "wingnuts and other assorted crazies," or simply deny that such people exist on (if not dominate) the modern American right-wing? Really, why is LFG such a rare site, and does it or does it not represent the last bastion of rational conservatism on the web? Rarely have I witnessed such deliberate misinterpretations of a Lizard's post as you two have made of talon_262's #623.
Speaking only for myself - UCKFAY OUYAY!
| 840 |
Stuart Leviton Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:32:19pm |
Sweet dreams lizards where ever you are.
| 841 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:32:39pm |
re: #834 Jaerik
They're unwound millions of times a day as part of regular cell division. Silly people.
I'm just floored at folks who think we should do "whatever it takes" to stop terrorism but reject full body scanners because some stranger might see a ghosted-out shot of their naughty bits.
My naughty bits are not so special or different from anybody else's that they would cause any sort of great commotion at all.
We need these scanners.
| 842 |
laZardo Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:32:44pm |
re: #829 Racer X
[Video]
"When Dennis Kucinich is the voice of reason, you know you're really screwed."
/should hang that quote on my wall.
| 843 |
Sheila Broflovski Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:32:47pm |
re: #678 freetoken
Maybe the most significant story on the wires right now, from Reuters:
I have an appointment with Family services next week, applying for emergency aid. I have put this off for a long time, because I'm ashamed, but the situation is not getting any better.
| 845 |
Varek Raith Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:32:48pm |
re: #832 JasonA
Wait... there are good Sci-Fi channel movies? (And I'm talking about that crap they put on Saturday nights, not the mini-series like Lost Room which rocked)
No, actually, there isn't! I should've said egregiously bad SciFi movie.
/Of course, they're all are egregiously bad... :D
| 846 |
MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:32:51pm |
re: #780 Spare O'Lake
No miscommunication on my part. You said that the right wing of the GOP would have been sexually aroused by a successful Islamofascist terror attack in which hundreds of innocents were killed. That kind of demonization is just plain disgusting and it diminishes you because you have seen fit to make such a terrible, unfounded accusation. And of course you cannot prove it because it didn't happen, so it is entirely speculative to boot.
None of which is meant as support for any of the awful policies of the far right.
Perhaps "orgasm" was the wrong word to have used on my flubbed post, but did you read my followup? In that post, I opined that the "right-wing wingnuts" (read: Alex Jones, Truthers, and their ilk) would have most likely tried their damnedest to pin the blame for an incident such as what potentially could have happened with that Northwest flight on President Obama and his administration, victims and their families be damned.
| 847 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:33:49pm |
re: #773 windsagio
some people really love that kind of thing. Alot of folks get off on being angry.
I got most of that out of my system during my usenet years. Still, I hope I don't slide on into simply becoming an apathetic fellow who no longer cares about what happens in the world.
| 848 |
SteveC Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:34:40pm |
re: #811 Alouette
Dumbass Comment of the Day, on another blog I read sometimes, regarding TSA full-body scanners:
These new full-body scanners are extremely hazardous to your health. I read that they emit radiation so strong that it's capable of unwinding your DNA strands.
Teh stupid! It burns!
I was reading about those earlier today...
There are 2 types of full-body scanner machines that use "weak" X-rays and radio waves respectively:
- Backscatter radiation X-ray full-body scanners
- "Millimeter wave" (radio wave) full-body scanners
| 849 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:34:42pm |
| 850 |
Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:34:53pm |
re: #829 Racer X
[Video]
Nick Gillespie, heh. OK, so he says the worst decade "at least since the 1990s." Let's see, that was the previous decade.
The flu pandemic killed 50-100 million people worldwide from 1918 to 1920.
Granted, the 2000s weren't anything to crow about but it's far from the worst decade of the United States.
| 851 |
Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:35:37pm |
re: #850 Gus 802
Nick Gillespie, heh. OK, so he says the worst decade "at least since the 1990s." Let's see, that was the previous decade.
The flu pandemic killed 50-100 million people worldwide from 1918 to 1920.
Granted, the 2000s weren't anything to crow about but it's far from the worst decade of the United States.
Bunch of whiners.
| 852 |
jaunte Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:35:40pm |
re: #834 Jaerik
I'm just floored at folks who think we should do "whatever it takes" to stop terrorism but reject full body scanners because some stranger might see a ghosted-out shot of their naughty bits.
They're just trying to keep the public safe from massive episodes of shock fainting.
| 853 |
Bagua Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:35:42pm |
| 854 |
What, me worry? Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:35:44pm |
re: #834 Jaerik
They're unwound millions of times a day as part of regular cell division. Silly people.
I'm just floored at folks who think we should do "whatever it takes" to stop terrorism but reject full body scanners because some stranger might see a ghosted-out shot of their naughty bits.
From what I've seen, it's just about as exciting as one of those little mannequins that artist's use except lumpier.
| 855 |
Daniel Ballard Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:35:53pm |
re: #841 reine.de.tout
These scanners will be beat by the same old methods that get heroin and cocaine onto planes. It was only 80 grams of explosive. People get more dope than that through pretty regularly. Thats the damn shame of it.
| 856 |
freetoken Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:36:03pm |
re: #843 Alouette
Hope all goes well with you, and that your New Year brings good things to you.
We don't discuss economics much here, though there is a spin-off category for such.
What has struck me is the lack of discussion around the web, blogs, news sites, etc., about the systematic issues that need to be addressed, in a serious manner.
To many people online (and on talk radio, the little that I listen to it...) seem to be more concerned with name calling than trying to understand why we are in the difficult situation in which we find ourselves.
| 857 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:36:05pm |
re: #821 Varek Raith
Sounds like the plot to a bad SciFi channel movie. :/
Are there any other kind of SciFi Channel movies?
| 858 |
windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:36:07pm |
re: #847 The Sanity Inspector
Its a funny medium. Its not wrong (imo) to get angry sometimes, or to be impassioned. The line between 'passionate' and 'self-righteous nutbag' is dangerously thin >>
| 860 |
SteveC Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:36:45pm |
re: #833 reine.de.tout
I'm still laughing!
Either super powers, OR you're vaporized. Which one, do you think?
Do you feel lucky? Well do ya, punk? :)
| 862 |
Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:36:56pm |
re: #851 Stanley Sea
Bunch of whiners.
Big time. I guess we'll be seeing more of this as the people from the older generations pass on. People that lived through the teens and the Great Depression, WWI and WWII.
| 863 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:37:00pm |
re: #803 Racer X
"Screw with me, and you screw with the whole trailer park."
| 864 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:37:03pm |
re: #855 Rightwingconspirator
These scanners will be beat by the same old methods that get heroin and cocaine onto planes. It was only 80 grams of explosive. People get more dope than that through pretty regularly. Thats the damn shame of it.
Yep, I'm afraid so. If they want to do it, they will.
But we don't have to make it easy for them.
| 865 |
Daniel Ballard Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:37:05pm |
re: #857 Dark_Falcon
What Scifi channel? Its all horror and ghost hunting now. :(
| 866 |
windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:37:28pm |
| 868 |
Daniel Ballard Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:37:55pm |
re: #864 reine.de.tout
Good point. How ya been anyway?
| 869 |
Mocking Jay Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:38:17pm |
re: #867 prairiefire
Lost Room? What was it about?
Oh you have to check that one out from Netflix or something.
| 870 |
windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:38:36pm |
re: #862 Gus 802
Altho', unless you were serving the wars weren't really that bad.
| 872 |
Varek Raith Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:38:45pm |
SciFi became dead to me when they canceled Farscape and replaced it with that... Tremors... series...
| 873 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:38:51pm |
re: #843 Alouette
I have an appointment with Family services next week, applying for emergency aid. I have put this off for a long time, because I'm ashamed, but the situation is not getting any better.
You've worked, you've paid into the system for those who needed help, now it's simply your turn. There is no reason whatsoever to be ashamed, none, zip, zilch, zero, nada.
| 874 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:39:34pm |
re: #816 WindHorse
I love my dog.
(and I miss the dog of mine that die this year...)
Sorry for your loss. I posted this the other day for NJDhockeyfan's late dog; take it in remembrance of yours, too.
| 875 |
Mocking Jay Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:39:37pm |
re: #872 Varek Raith
SciFi became dead to me when they canceled Farscape and replaced it with that... Tremors... series...
As much as that bothered me they still had my beloved Battlestar.
| 876 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:39:46pm |
re: #866 windsagio
Shark attack 3: Megalodon was good!
*struggles for straight face*
Look at the bright side: SciFi Channel will likely be the place where the next Ed Wood makes his cinematic debut.
| 877 |
Bagua Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:39:49pm |
| 878 |
webevintage Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:39:54pm |
re: #843 Alouette
I have an appointment with Family services next week, applying for emergency aid. I have put this off for a long time, because I'm ashamed, but the situation is not getting any better.
Don't be ashamed.
About 13 years ago my husband lost his job, we had no savings and had just paid all our bills so there was no extra money for food. We got emergency aid and were on food stamps for about 3 months.
I've never forgotten how grateful I was or how cruel some people could be, but the gals at the local DHS were wonderful.
It happens and the help is there for a reason....
| 879 |
SteveC Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:40:00pm |
re: #865 Rightwingconspirator
What Scifi channel? Its all horror and ghost hunting now. :(
Put Battlestar Galactica back in production! After all, All this has happened before, and will happen again.
| 880 |
Varek Raith Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:40:01pm |
re: #872 Varek Raith
SciFi became dead to me when they canceled Farscape and replaced it with that... Tremors... series...
Clarification:
SciFi the channel, not the genre. :)
| 882 |
Varek Raith Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:40:35pm |
re: #875 JasonA
As much as that bothered me they still had my beloved Battlestar.
I will give them that, at least.
| 883 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:40:44pm |
re: #868 Rightwingconspirator
Good point. How ya been anyway?
Fine, thanks!
Except the cats are driving me nuts.
The stray we've taken in and let into the house has terrorized the other cats.
They've all left their regular sleeping spots and have ended up in my bed, because the new cat doesn't come into our room.
I was trying to get to sleep last night and I had two cats on each side of me, plastered up next to me, I couldn't move.
| 884 |
Girth Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:40:45pm |
re: #867 prairiefire
Lost Room? What was it about?
It's complicated. The top of this doesn't give much away.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Check it out, you'll get hooked.
| 885 |
Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:40:47pm |
re: #870 windsagio
Altho', unless you were serving the wars weren't really that bad.
I look at life expectancy. Standard of living. Medical care advancements. Civil rights. Transportation. Trauma care. Etc. No, they probably weren't that bad but in retrospect we still have it made compared to those days.
| 886 |
windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:40:48pm |
re: #875 JasonA
*Struggles to stifle rant about how the original Battlestar Galactica was infinitely superior to the new one, which was crap, because nobody agrees with me*
| 887 |
Mocking Jay Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:41:18pm |
re: #881 Rightwingconspirator
I miss Eureka!
At least they haven't canceled it. (although that season finale could've been rather final if they wanted it to be)
| 889 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:41:49pm |
re: #879 SteveC
Put Battlestar Galactica back in production! After all, All this has happened before, and will happen again.
Sorry Steve, but you asked for it:
SMACK!
| 890 |
windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:41:51pm |
re: #876 Dark_Falcon
heh one of my friends makes a hobby of watching all the terrible SciFI (SyFy) movies, so I get to see the 'best' of them, or at least the highlights. You are 100% correct tho'!
| 891 |
wee fury Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:41:54pm |
| 894 |
windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:42:26pm |
| 896 |
webevintage Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:42:35pm |
re: #886 windsagio
*Struggles to stifle rant about how the original Battlestar Galactica was infinitely superior to the new one, which was crap, because nobody agrees with me*
You are right...that no one agrees with you that is.
;-)
Sorry I loved the newer one, loooovvvveeeeeddd it, even with the odd ending and I'm really looking forward to Caprica.
| 897 |
Sharmuta Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:42:39pm |
re: #856 freetoken
Hope all goes well with you, and that your New Year brings good things to you.
We don't discuss economics much here, though there is a spin-off category for such.
What has struck me is the lack of discussion around the web, blogs, news sites, etc., about the systematic issues that need to be addressed, in a serious manner.
To many people online (and on talk radio, the little that I listen to it...) seem to be more concerned with name calling than trying to understand why we are in the difficult situation in which we find ourselves.
It's exactly what's wrong with conservatism these days. The fiscal conservatives have no voice, and the rational financial discussion isn't happening, in large part to their absence, imo.
| 899 |
Varek Raith Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:43:01pm |
re: #888 jaunte
Why did they change the name to ScyFy? Lots of Welsh fans?
Heh, I refuse to actually call it 'ScyFy'. :P
| 900 |
Jaerik Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:43:02pm |
re: #888 jaunte
Why did they change the name to ScyFy? Lots of Welsh fans?
Some lame-ass rebranding campaign.
Just as bad, have you seen the new AOL rebranding? It's lolriffic.
| 901 |
SteveC Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:43:08pm |
re: #886 windsagio
*Struggles to stifle rant about how the original Battlestar Galactica was infinitely superior to the new one, which was crap, because nobody agrees with me*
Toaster!
| 902 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:43:11pm |
re: #878 webevintage
Don't be ashamed.
About 13 years ago my husband lost his job, we had no savings and had just paid all our bills so there was no extra money for food. We got emergency aid and were on food stamps for about 3 months.
I've never forgotten how grateful I was or how cruel some people could be, but the gals at the local DHS were wonderful.
It happens and the help is there for a reason...
Absolutely!
The help is there for a reason .
Most people who use food stamps need them for only a short period of time.
There are some aid abuse stories which are horrific; but there really are not hordes of people living on assistance forever and ever and ever.
| 903 |
Mocking Jay Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:43:30pm |
re: #896 webevintage
You are right...that no one agrees with you that is.
;-)Sorry I loved the newer one, looovvveeeddd it, even with the odd ending and I'm really looking forward to Caprica.
Oy, that ending. But the journey was good enough that I can forgive it.
| 904 |
jaunte Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:43:43pm |
re: #894 windsagio
All the scyence fyction the trademark attynys can protect.
| 905 |
MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:43:48pm |
re: #888 jaunte
Why did they change the name to ScyFy? Lots of Welsh fans?
Because they couldn't trademark SciFi (a generic term) as a brand, but they can trademark the bastardized spelling they came up with (SyFy).
| 906 |
prairiefire Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:44:00pm |
re: #885 Gus 802
I look at life expectancy. Standard of living. Medical care advancements. Civil rights. Transportation. Trauma care. Etc. No, they probably weren't that bad but in retrospect we still have it made compared to those days.
No polio, but we have AIDS. More civil rights, for damn sure.
| 907 |
Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:44:08pm |
re: #843 Alouette
{{Alouette}}
Do not be ashamed. The help is there, for when people need it.
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Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:44:10pm |
Life expectancy 1900-09 - 47.3 female, 46.3 male - 33.0 blacks
[Link: kclibrary.lonestar.edu...]
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Girth Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:44:21pm |
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Lidane Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:44:31pm |
re: #896 webevintage
Sorry I loved the newer one, looovvveeeddd it, even with the odd ending and I'm really looking forward to Caprica.
The BSG ending made me throw things at the TV and hurl insults at the writers and question their parentage. I'm still looking forward to Caprica, though.
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darthstar Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:44:33pm |
re: #458 negativ
King Crimson
Elephant Talk
circa 1981-2982[Video]
Fuckin' brilliant. Thanks for the trip down memory lane.
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windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:44:41pm |
re: #896 webevintage
Old Science fiction TV shows were fun and didn't take themselves too seriously, 2 seperate areas where the new Battlestar fell down.
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Varek Raith Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:44:49pm |
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:44:51pm |
re: #828 Bagua
Can it play an MP3 that's not on the blog?
If yes, you just need to download Flashplayer. The browser doesn't come with it.
whoops...I thought Firefox dragged that in for me...will do, thanks
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SteveC Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:45:31pm |
re: #905 talon_262
Because they couldn't trademark SciFi (a generic term) as a brand, but they can trademark the bastardized spelling they came up with (SyFy).
And ha' mercy, it is a bastard!
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laZardo Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:45:31pm |
re: #897 Sharmuta
It's exactly what's wrong with conservatism these days. The fiscal conservatives have no voice, and the rational financial discussion isn't happening, in large part to their absence, imo.
Given the current financial situation, fiscal "conservatism" can wait. It's better than having the same kind of depression that led to World War II.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:45:40pm |
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windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:45:48pm |
re: #914 windsagio
Also, where're the awesome Mormon parables?
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WindHorse Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:45:49pm |
re: #874 The Sanity Inspector
whoa... that made me cry.... (I live on the beach and Toby was a water dog....)
thx.
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What, me worry? Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:46:29pm |
re: #915 Varek Raith
heheh I'll have to get the DVDs. Thanks for the clip!
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:46:57pm |
re: #862 Gus 802
Big time. I guess we'll be seeing more of this as the people from the older generations pass on. People that lived through the teens and the Great Depression, WWI and WWII.
"You kids today with your BMWs and Audis, snort! In my day we had to drive to school in Firebirds and Camaros--and we were damned glad to have them!"
/ geezer
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Daniel Ballard Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:47:00pm |
re: #883 reine.de.tout
Oh Noes!
Maybe Noob cat needs a different foster home. It happens. But with time it may shake out. Our dynamic is changing. the new cat here is starting to come out of my studio, her hideout. The others are starting to ignore her rather than chase her back. New cat is my studio companion on long shoots. i
I'm on vacation so I get some extra LGF time these days. Wifey wants to register so we watch for open door. Watch for LadyDragon if that nic is available. And a cat avatar of course.
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Mocking Jay Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:47:01pm |
re: #920 Sharmuta
I miss Phil Hartman.
Wow. I don't know why but he popped into my head this evening as I was driving home and I thought about how much I missed him.
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Sheila Broflovski Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:47:10pm |
re: #871 prairiefire
God bless you, Alouette.
Thank you. I hope the work I'm currently doing for no pay will develop into a situation that produces a revenue stream. But in the mean time I have to pay for my medical insurance until Obamacare kicks in, and I have to buy food and keep my site alive.
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Spare O'Lake Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:47:50pm |
re: #846 talon_262
Perhaps "orgasm" was the wrong word to have used on my flubbed post, but did you read my followup? In that post, I opined that the "right-wing wingnuts" (read: Alex Jones, Truthers, and their ilk) would have most likely tried their damnedest to pin the blame for an incident such as what potentially could have happened with that Northwest flight on President Obama and his administration, victims and their families be damned.
Actually I think you are wrong about the "victims and their families be damned" part. I think all Americans would express sympathy for the victims and their families.
As for the hypothetical post-incident blame game, all Americans would place primary blame on the perpetrator, but surely the Obama administration would be correctly blamed for the gross failure to heed the warning signs pinned all over this Islamofascist terrorist.
As for the far-right wingnuts, I would expect them to call for religious profiling of all Muslims and probably for their deportation as well.
And the far-left moonbats would pretend that Islam had absolutely nothing to do with this and they would naturally blame Bush.
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WindHorse Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:47:53pm |
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prairiefire Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:48:11pm |
re: #924 The Sanity Inspector
I was damn glad to drive my mom's olive green '74 Camaro.
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wee fury Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:48:18pm |
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Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:48:32pm |
re: #924 The Sanity Inspector
"You kids today with your BMWs and Audis, snort! In my day we had to drive to school in Firebirds and Camaros--and we were damned glad to have them!"
/ geezer
Oh, yeah! You're luck you had Firebirds and Camaros. We had to drive in Hornets and Pacer.
Not only that but I cam from a family of 24 and we had to live in a shoe box in the middle of the Garden State Parkway!
//
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reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:48:54pm |
re: #925 Rightwingconspirator
Oh Noes!
Maybe Noob cat needs a different foster home. It happens. But with time it may shake out. Our dynamic is changing. the new cat here is starting to come out of my studio, her hideout. The others are starting to ignore her rather than chase her back. New cat is my studio companion on long shoots. iI'm on vacation so I get some extra LGF time these days. Wifey wants to register so we watch for open door. Watch for LadyDragon if that nic is available. And a cat avatar of course.
OK! I hope she gets registered soon.
I figure the cats will work it out sooner or later. But we would like to find a home for this one - great with people! But does not get along with other animals at all.
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WindHorse Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:49:11pm |
re: #932 prairiefire
my dad had a 1967 Buick Wildcat with posi-traction..... which he got rid of the year I got my license..... boo hoo....
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:49:15pm |
re: #918 laZardo
Given the current financial situation, fiscal "conservatism" can wait. It's better than having the same kind of depression that led to World War II.
what?...quadrupling the deficit, with tax payers money?...your kidding...this whole economic turndown is mostly, not all, contrived
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:49:33pm |
re: #928 Racer X
Over 900 comments - and not one deletion.
It's a slow news day. Even those who would normally troll will wait for a better time. Besides, they can't bother Charles when he's not around. They'll wait.
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Jaerik Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:49:39pm |
re: #897 Sharmuta
It's exactly what's wrong with conservatism these days. The fiscal conservatives have no voice, and the rational financial discussion isn't happening, in large part to their absence, imo.
I worry too, because I think the problem is the marriage of fiscal conservatism to social conservatism. Really, they should be orthogonal ideologies, but the social aspect is crushing the fiscal aspect for brain share at the moment. Unfortunately, the remainder of the right's leadership seems to be doubling down on the social parts rather than backing off and trying to extricate the fiscal ones.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:49:45pm |
re: #932 prairiefire
I was damn glad to drive my mom's olive green '74 Camaro.
I took driver's ed in a 1980 camaro. Looked just like Jim Rockford's.
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Racer X Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:49:54pm |
re: #933 wee fury
We are so good.
Heh.
Charles will show up any minute now with a shiny new Samurai sword for Stinky to use.
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jaunte Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:49:55pm |
re: #919 reine.de.tout
No, I'm still working on my lizard assignment. It's going to come out to about 25 drawings.
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Varek Raith Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:50:06pm |
MST3K
"Who took out the Hitler building?!"
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prairiefire Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:50:09pm |
re: #928 Racer X
Because I have not tried to mess up a link! Maybe I will... ; >
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windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:50:22pm |
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:50:23pm |
re: #926 JasonA
Wow. I don't know why but he popped into my head this evening as I was driving home and I thought about how much I missed him.
I also miss Toonces.
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MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:50:49pm |
re: #941 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I took driver's ed in a 1980 camaro. Looked just like Jim Rockford's.
Uhhh, Jim Rockford had a Firebird...
;-P
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Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:51:08pm |
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:51:27pm |
re: #937 WindHorse
my dad had a 1967 Buick Wildcat with posi-traction... which he got rid of the year I got my license... boo hoo...
I had that exact car once out in CO, perfect condition two door coupe...I loved it...it was gold colored
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Racer X Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:51:30pm |
re: #941 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I took driver's ed in a 1980 camaro. Looked just like Jim Rockford's.
Friend of mine had one of those! We used to do that quick reverse u-turn thing. Tore up the tranny.
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SteveC Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:51:32pm |
re: #934 Gus 802
Oh, yeah! You're luck you had Firebirds and Camaros. We had to drive in Hornets and Pacer.
Not only that but I cam from a family of 24 and we had to live in a shoe box in the middle of the Garden State Parkway!
//
One year it snowed so deep we couldn't get out of the house. We had to crap into a shotgun and fire it up the chimney!
//
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What, me worry? Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:51:35pm |
re: #934 Gus 802
Oh, yeah! You're luck you had Firebirds and Camaros. We had to drive in Hornets and Pacer.
Not only that but I cam from a family of 24 and we had to live in a shoe box in the middle of the Garden State Parkway!
//
We had Chryslers. Terribly unsexy.
Dad had an MG once. I remember it going around the block once! He was always in the garage with it, but i never went anywhere.
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CapeCoddah Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:51:53pm |
The government now owns a majority stake in GMAC after dumping another 3.8 Billion into it.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:51:58pm |
re: #934 Gus 802
Oh, yeah! You're luck you had Firebirds and Camaros. We had to drive in Hornets and Pacer.
Not only that but I cam from a family of 24 and we had to live in a shoe box in the middle of the Garden State Parkway!
//
Well.
I had to walk to school!
Not only that, but we had to live in the south!
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WindHorse Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:52:26pm |
re: #950 albusteve
my dad's was gold with a dark brown vinyl top.... two door hard top...
thing went like hell.....
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:52:31pm |
re: #937 WindHorse
my dad had a 1967 Buick Wildcat with posi-traction... which he got rid of the year I got my license... boo hoo...
Mona Lisa Vito: The car that made these two, equal-length tire marks had positraction. You can't make those marks without positraction, which was not available on the '64 Buick Skylark!
Vinny Gambini: And why not? What is positraction?
Mona Lisa Vito: It's a limited slip differential which distributes power equally to both the right and left tires. The '64 Skylark had a regular differential, which, anyone who's been stuck in the mud in Alabama knows, you step on the gas, one tire spins, the other tire does nothing.
[the jury members nod, with murmurs of "yes," "that's right," etc]
Vinny Gambini: Is that it?
Mona Lisa Vito: No, there's more! You see? When the left tire mark goes up on the curb and the right tire mark stays flat and even? Well, the '64 Skylark had a solid rear axle, so when the left tire would go up on the curb, the right tire would tilt out and ride along its edge. But that didn't happen here. The tire mark stayed flat and even. This car had an independent rear suspension. Now, in the '60's, there were only two other cars made in America that had positraction, and independent rear suspension, and enough power to make these marks. One was the Corvette, which could never be confused with the Buick Skylark. The other had the same body length, height, width, weight, wheel base, and wheel track as the '64 Skylark, and that was the 1963 Pontiac Tempest.
Vinny Gambini: And because both cars were made by GM, were both cars available in metallic mint green paint?
Mona Lisa Vito: They were!
Vinny Gambini: Thank you, Ms. Vito. No more questions. Thank you very, very much.
[kissing her hands]
Vinny Gambini: You've been a lovely, lovely witness.
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windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:52:59pm |
re: #955 reine.de.tout
Not only that, but we had to live in the south!
I pity you and both your grandparents ;)
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solomonpanting Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:53:05pm |
re: #838 Olsonist
re: #829 Racer X
Worst. Decade. Ever.
[Video]Um, your grandparents may disagree with you on that one.
Besides, there's still another year to go before the decade is over.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:53:14pm |
re: #943 jaunte
No, I'm still working on my lizard assignment. It's going to come out to about 25 drawings.
Wow!
It will be great, and greatly appreciated!
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Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:53:16pm |
re: #955 reine.de.tout
Well.
I had to walk to school!
Not only that, but we had to live in the south!
Did you have to walk ten miles in the morning to fetch a pail of milk? ;)
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:53:56pm |
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SteveC Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:53:57pm |
re: #951 Racer X
Friend of mine had one of those! We used to do that quick reverse u-turn thing. Tore up the tranny.
You hurt a transgendered person?!?!?! Shame on you!
/// X15
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:54:05pm |
re: #946 windsagio
wait wait... you're saying that it was intentional?
Thtas whacky even for you~
I'm sure it seems like it to you...BO does not care about excessive unemployment...did you fall for the Stimulus scam too?
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jaunte Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:54:13pm |
My dad had a 1962 Ford Falcon, in Houston, all through the 60's.
It went like hell too. Driving fast was the only way to get ac.
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Daniel Ballard Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:54:16pm |
re: #953 marjoriemoon
I had an MG B in high school. Endless fixes. Real spoke wheels and all. Not real charismatic at the time.
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MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:54:24pm |
re: #957 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Love My Cousin Vinny...didn't hurt that Marisa Tomei was smokin' hot ;-P
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windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:54:40pm |
re: #964 albusteve
actually lets let it pass, everyones having fun tonight, we can argue another time :)
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reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:54:43pm |
re: #961 Gus 802
Did you have to walk ten miles in the morning to fetch a pail of milk? ;)
No, silly, we just walked outside and milked the cow!
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prairiefire Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:54:51pm |
I loved doing donuts in the snow in it. My brothers and I used to fight over who had to sit on the "hump" separating the two back seats.
Really easy to get hunky guys to push it out of the snow, or out of the mud at a field kegger party.
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laZardo Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:54:56pm |
re: #954 CapeCoddah
The government now owns a majority stake in GMAC after dumping another 3.8 Billion into it.
The one part of my ideology that can be downright Clarksonian at times has to be automobiles. GM apparently is some sort of healthcare-and-pensions company that views what it's supposed to be doing - making cars - as some sort of nuisance.
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Lidane Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:55:14pm |
re: #961 Gus 802
Did you have to walk ten miles in the morning to fetch a pail of milk? ;)
Pfft. Some of us had to walk twenty miles uphill both ways just to fetch the pail for the fresh milk. Or was that to go to the arcade at the mall? I can never remember. ;)
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Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:55:20pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:55:27pm |
re: #967 talon_262
Love My Cousin Vinny...didn't hurt that Marisa Tomei was smokin' hot ;-P
Didn't bother me a bit.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:55:42pm |
Avanti, the user list says you're around. Classic cars are your turf. What say you?
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:55:48pm |
re: #940 Jaerik
I worry too, because I think the problem is the marriage of fiscal conservatism to social conservatism. Really, they should be orthogonal ideologies, but the social aspect is crushing the fiscal aspect for brain share at the moment. Unfortunately, the remainder of the right's leadership seems to be doubling down on the social parts rather than backing off and trying to extricate the fiscal ones.
Exactly. And exactly wrong too. It will kill the party.
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WindHorse Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:55:54pm |
....and my huge mistake was giving away my 1964 Ford Fairlane..... 289 2-bbl.... would cruise at 120 without even batting an eyelash..... so purty...
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Mich-again Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:56:02pm |
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CapeCoddah Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:56:12pm |
re: #971 laZardo
That would be due to out of control unions.
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prairiefire Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:56:56pm |
re: #967 talon_262
I used to do a good impression of her stamping her foot and saying " my biological clock is ticking like this!!!"
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:56:59pm |
re: #956 WindHorse
my dad's was gold with a dark brown vinyl top... two door hard top...
thing went like hell...
cool car, with a great name...the front grill was awesome...here she is
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:57:34pm |
re: #971 laZardo
The one part of my ideology that can be downright Clarksonian at times has to be automobiles. GM apparently is some sort of healthcare-and-pensions company that views what it's supposed to be doing - making cars - as some sort of nuisance.
That's the way the UAW sees it anyway. I'm not always anti-union and the UAW was a needed thing, but they overreached badly and now their members are paying the price when they lose the jobs GM can no longer afford to pay them to do.
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laZardo Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:57:36pm |
re: #979 CapeCoddah
That would be due to out of control unions.
The UAW has become part of the machine it claims to fight. Sad.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:58:02pm |
Well, I'm feeling a need for . . . chocolate.
See y'all later!
It was fun!
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WindHorse Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:58:04pm |
re: #981 albusteve
oh dude.... look at how long that hood is!!!! sweet!
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:58:21pm |
re: #968 windsagio
actually lets let it pass, everyones having fun tonight, we can argue another time :)
fine...then don't call me wacky if you prefer not to argue
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Varek Raith Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:59:03pm |
re: #984 reine.de.tout
Well, I'm feeling a need for . . . chocolate.
See y'all later!
It was fun!
Wait, you're not gonna share the chocolate with the rest of us?!!?
/:)
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:59:07pm |
I'd love to see LGF break away into two sections...
A. A GET TO KNOW ME! section
then
B. ARGUE ABOUT SHIT! section... maybe the arguments wouldn't be so... so... icky.
More people'd like each other, I think.
Proud to be a huge wuss!
But I'm LIT! So, fuck it.
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MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:59:07pm |
re: #980 prairiefire
I used to do a good impression of her stamping her foot and saying " my biological clock is ticking like this!!!"
Did you look as hot as her when she did that?
/ducks ;-P
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JoyousMN Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:59:23pm |
re: #458 negativ
Saw them at First Avenue in Mpls in that time frame. They were awesome. Adrian Belew lived in Springfield, IL when I lived there (before he played with Talking Heads). Saw him at a place called "The Old Schoolhouse."
Great music thread tonight.
Albusteve, when you mentioned polyester, all I could think of was "the king of polyester," David Lindley. seen him on several occasions, once with Cooder. REALLY great guitar player.
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windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:59:35pm |
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windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 8:59:56pm |
re: #988 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I like doing both at once, keeps the mind supple~!
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CapeCoddah Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:00:22pm |
re: #979 CapeCoddah
That would be due to out of control unions.
Sorry, second half of my answer got cut off, you were referring to GM. That's what my reference to unions meant. GMAC is a mortgage company.
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Racer X Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:00:22pm |
Yep I was wrong (again).
Not Rockfords car.
I did go watch them shoot an episode once down at Paradise Cove.
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webevintage Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:00:28pm |
When hubby and I were first married we bought a 1963 Impala.
Lovely turquoise and chrome that, God as my witness, was one of those "little old lady drove it to Chruch" cars.
I loved that car.
Got hit in the passenger side making a left turn (with a left turn arrow) by a moron in a huge 70's caddy.
Sigh, it was a gonner.
I still think about that car.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:00:28pm |
re: #985 WindHorse
oh dude... look at how long that hood is!!! sweet!
roomy, lots of glass, great body...one of the coolest Buicks ever made...I wish I still had mine, it was 10 years old in perfect condition
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:00:29pm |
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wee fury Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:00:33pm |
Great muscle car: 1965 Chevrolet Impala SS, 396, with posi-traction.
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Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:01:03pm |
re: #990 JoyousMN
Saw them at First Avenue in Mpls in that time frame. They were awesome. Adrian Belew lived in Springfield, IL when I lived there (before he played with Talking Heads). Saw him at a place called "The Old Schoolhouse."
Great music thread tonight.
Albusteve, when you mentioned polyester, all I could think of was "the king of polyester," David Lindley. seen him on several occasions, once with Cooder. REALLY great guitar player.
Ah! Saw Lindley a couple of years ago at a small venue! Every hear him sing "Grey Human Feet"???
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:01:10pm |
re: #965 jaunte
My dad had a 1962 Ford Falcon, in Houston, all through the 60's.
It went like hell too. Driving fast was the only way to get ac.
My first car was my parents' cast off Dodge Coronet. Silver, black vinyl top, red naugahyde interior, wedge-shaped body which prompted friends to call it The Batmobile. I wrecked it one year shy of it becoming an official antique.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:01:11pm |
re: #992 windsagio
I don't think there's a better way to get to know someone than fighting with them.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:01:31pm |
re: #991 windsagio
I regretted it as soon as I posted it, actually :)
Theres no edit function :(
albusteve is wacky!...neener neener
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Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:01:31pm |
From the Four Yorkshiremen:
...
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN: You were lucky to have a lake! There were a hundred and fifty of us living in t' shoebox in t' middle o' road.FIRST YORKSHIREMAN: Cardboard box?
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN: Aye.
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN: You were lucky. We lived for three months in a paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six in the morning, clean the paper bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down t' mill, fourteen hours a day, week-in week-out, for sixpence a week, and when we got home our Dad would thrash us to sleep wi' his belt.
SECOND YORKSHIREMAN: Luxury. We used to have to get out of the lake at six o'clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of 'ot gravel, work twenty hour day at mill for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would thrash us to sleep with a broken bottle, if we were lucky!
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN: Well, of course, we had it tough. We used to 'ave to get up out of shoebox at twelve o'clock at night and lick road clean wit' tongue. We had two bits of cold gravel, worked twenty-four hours a day at mill for sixpence every four years, and when we got home our Dad would slice us in two wit' bread knife.
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN: Right. I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night half an hour before I went to bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad and our mother would kill us and dance about on our graves singing Hallelujah.
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN: And you try and tell the young people of today that ..... they won't believe you.
ALL: They won't!
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Jaerik Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:01:34pm |
re: #982 Dark_Falcon
That's the way the UAW sees it anyway. I'm not always anti-union and the UAW was a needed thing, but they overreached badly and now their members are paying the price when they lose the jobs GM can no longer afford to pay them to do.
Agreed... the sad thing is that it's really sort of a big political game of hot potato, except with a live grenade. Neither party wants to be caught holding it once it goes off, which is why Bush pumped in billions to keep it propped up until he left office, and why Obama won't let it fail now.
Although I wonder, from a purely political cost/benefit analysis, which would hurt the party in power more? Letting it implode, skyrocketing employment even more, and losing UAW votes? Or the irresponsibility of essentially extending them an unlimited line of credit?
| 1005 |
Racer X Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:01:42pm |
re: #988 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I'd love to see LGF break away into two sections...
A. A GET TO KNOW ME! section
then
B. ARGUE ABOUT SHIT! section... maybe the arguments wouldn't be so... so... icky.
More people'd like each other, I think.
Proud to be a huge wuss!
But I'm LIT! So, fuck it.
Don't tell anyone, but I ignore a heck of a lot of posts now.
| 1007 |
tradewind Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:01:49pm |
Luckily, there’s not much serious news breaking.
...
Never say that! It's like a doctor standing in front of a surgery board remarking ' kinda quiet today'......
To get a look at the compassionate left in action, check out the #1 trending topic on twitter, Rush Limbaugh's apparent heart attack, and read their ' Die already' get well wishes.
| 1009 |
prairiefire Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:02:00pm |
re: #989 talon_262
I'm far too Anglo looking to look like a hot Italian American broad. Geez, did you see "The Wrestler"? What is she, 44! man....
| 1010 |
Sharmuta Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:02:02pm |
re: #1001 Killgore Trout
I don't think there's a better way to get to know someone than fighting with them.
Fuck you.
///
| 1011 |
Mocking Jay Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:02:08pm |
re: #1001 Killgore Trout
I don't think there's a better way to get to know someone than fighting with them.
Very Tyler Durden of you.
| 1012 |
Varek Raith Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:02:30pm |
re: #1001 Killgore Trout
I don't think there's a better way to get to know someone than fighting with them.
True.
*starts randomly throwing punches*
/
| 1013 |
Daniel Ballard Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:02:48pm |
re: #988 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
What a coincidence. I just lit. Up.
| 1014 |
Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:02:59pm |
| 1015 |
windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:03:00pm |
re: #1010 Sharmuta
you'd think the joke 'Fuck You' would be old by now, but it still makes me laugh every time :)
| 1016 |
Killgore Trout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:03:11pm |
| 1017 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:03:13pm |
| 1018 |
avanti Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:03:42pm |
re: #975 Dark_Falcon
Avanti, the user list says you're around. Classic cars are your turf. What say you?
Sorry, multitasking and did not log out. What say I about what ?
| 1019 |
MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:03:50pm |
re: #625 MandyManners
I wanna' have his love child.
The burning question for all the Trek fans here is simple: "Kirk or Picard?"
For me, I like them both...it's sort of like a Reese's cup, in that one has qualities the other lacks or doesn't have enough of. Kirk (in his "prime") was the original badass, charging in like the proverbial bull through a china shop and sweeping the ladies off their feet when the fight was over. Picard was more cerebral, more analytical, but could uncork a barrel of whoopass when he needed or was forced to (see First Contact).
Having both of them in Generations, working together, was kickass...although Kirk died in the end, he went out in a blaze of glory.
| 1020 |
Mocking Jay Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:03:54pm |
| 1021 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:04:22pm |
| 1022 |
Racer X Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:04:25pm |
| 1023 |
Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:04:35pm |
| 1025 |
Spare O'Lake Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:04:47pm |
re: #1001 Killgore Trout
I don't think there's a better way to get to know someone than fighting with them.
You've got something there...but I think it might be rabies.
| 1026 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:04:52pm |
re: #1001 Killgore Trout
I don't think there's a better way to get to know someone than fighting with them.
I used to think that, but now I prefer to bake bread together
| 1027 |
wee fury Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:04:56pm |
Well, I'm suspicious.
Why is Rush in Hawaii?
Is he a secret friend of our President?
I bet they were forging new government policies.
Conspiracy theorist, here.
/
| 1028 |
jaunte Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:05:20pm |
re: #1010 Sharmuta
And what's the first rule of Fuck You club?
| 1031 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:06:01pm |
| 1033 |
WindHorse Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:06:11pm |
and... another car I gave away....
[Link: www.1970cadillac.info...]
| 1034 |
Killgore Trout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:06:35pm |
re: #1026 albusteve
I used to think that, but now I prefer to bake bread together
Never fight with a baker. They'll kick your ass.
| 1035 |
Varek Raith Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:06:38pm |
re: #1028 jaunte
And what's the first rule of Fuck You club?
No, the first rule is; You Do Not Talk About The Fuck You Club!
:)
| 1036 |
Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:06:45pm |
re: #1028 jaunte
And what's the first rule of Fuck You club?
Is that anything like the Joy Luck Club?
/
| 1038 |
Jaerik Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:06:52pm |
re: #1019 talon_262
The burning question for all the Trek fans here is simple: "Kirk or Picard?"
For me, I like them both...
Same. Although the tie-breaker for me is sort of a second-order thing: Picard's cerebral strengths lent themselves to arguably more interesting storyline possibilities over time. I love Kirk too, but there's only so many iterations of "beat up the bad guy and sleep with the hot alien chick" you can shoot before it starts to get a little repetitive.
| 1039 |
Girth Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:07:07pm |
re: #1019 talon_262
The burning question for all the Trek fans here is simple: "Kirk or Picard?"
Overall, Picard. But, Wrath of Khan. I mean come on!
Kirk, my old friend, you're still alive..
Still. Old friend. You've managed to kill just about everyone else down here but like a poor marksman you just keep missing the target.
| 1040 |
WindHorse Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:07:20pm |
....and another (though mine wasn't this nice....)
| 1041 |
tradewind Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:07:21pm |
re: #1027 wee fury
Reports said golfing vacation.
You know who else is golfing on Hawaii??///
(Palin, Pelosi, and Potus. )
| 1044 |
windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:07:51pm |
With the Trek thing; its more interesting IMO to compare Series than captains, since they're all really products of their time.
| 1045 |
WindHorse Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:07:52pm |
re: #1037 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
biggest baddest car ever built in the U S of A....
| 1048 |
Varek Raith Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:08:27pm |
Later!
/I really need to replace this finicky router...
| 1049 |
webevintage Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:08:27pm |
Picard has such a lovely, lovely voice....
| 1051 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:09:01pm |
re: #1018 avanti
Sorry, multitasking and did not log out. What say I about what ?
Classic cars. This is your subject.
| 1052 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:09:16pm |
re: #1030 wee fury
Yes!
a great looking car no doubt...but for performance I want one of these...same year...65
| 1053 |
Mocking Jay Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:09:17pm |
re: #1046 windsagio
man I wish I could downding in jest >
No one's stopping you :P
Like Picard or Kirk could ever go along with a plot to trick the Romulans into fighting the Dominion.
| 1054 |
Mich-again Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:09:38pm |
I had a white knuckle ride as a passenger in a brand new Corvette the other day. The acceleration was scary. I would love it as a driver, but as a passenger its unnerving when you're sitting there and the driver wants to show you what the car can do.
Anyway, I was around for the muscle cars in the '60s and '70s and there was never a car like this one. Those cars were fat slow pigs compared to the new muscle cars like that Vette. Actually, theres nothing like that Corvette at all.
| 1055 |
Racer X Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:09:46pm |
Only mine had a right side view mirror
| 1056 |
Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:09:52pm |
| 1057 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:09:55pm |
| 1059 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:10:39pm |
re: #1034 Killgore Trout
Never fight with a baker. They'll kick your ass.
what?...they bop you upside the head with a dinner roll?...yikes!
| 1061 |
tradewind Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:11:12pm |
re: #1054 Mich-again
They just recalled about 20,000 of 'em.
| 1062 |
Mocking Jay Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:11:26pm |
re: #1058 windsagio
He's sooo dull tho'!
Ha! It's possible that suffering through Janeway has made him more likable to me.
| 1064 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:12:33pm |
Albusteve, Avanti, and other lizards can wax about cars until my eyes bleed. But, I can tell you this...
My 2004 Toyota Highlander has over 200k miles and we have changed the brake pads once. No oil is burned.
I loves my "rice-burner", thank you very much.
| 1065 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:12:57pm |
| 1066 |
Jaerik Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:13:03pm |
Kirk's awesome, but imagine how badly he would have screwed up most of the better TNG plotlines. Do you think he woulda taken any shit from John de Lancie in a stupid hat?
| 1067 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:13:19pm |
re: #1053 JasonA
No one's stopping you :P
Like Picard or Kirk could ever go along with a plot to trick the Romulans into fighting the Dominion.
Time to throw in the "Rudimentary Lathe" line?
| 1068 |
Girth Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:13:32pm |
re: #1062 JasonA
Ha! It's possible that suffering through Janeway has made him more likable to me.
I watched the majority of DS9 a few years ago on Spike reruns. It's not bad, Sisko's ok. Never watched a single Voyager episode. Or Enterprise for that matter.
| 1069 |
What, me worry? Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:13:41pm |
I've posted it before, but I don't hear this song enough :)
| 1070 |
windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:13:49pm |
re: #1062 JasonA
lol fair enough. Its amazing how much those 2 series almost destroyed one of the biggest scifi franchises ever...
re: #1066 Jaerik
Kirk's awesome, but imagine how badly he would have screwed up most of the better TNG plotlines. Do you think he woulda taken any shit from John de Lancie in a stupid hat?
Hell, his hobby was killing Gods (well robot Gods anyways)!
| 1071 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:13:51pm |
| 1072 |
WindHorse Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:14:11pm |
re: #1065 The Sanity Inspector
(I had a stuffed, plastic arm that I dangled out of the trunk....)
| 1073 |
windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:14:21pm |
re: #1068 Girth
Enterprise is worth watching, if a bit spotty. The low point was the late '90s
| 1074 |
William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:14:33pm |
re: #843 Alouette
I have an appointment with Family services next week, applying for emergency aid. I have put this off for a long time, because I'm ashamed, but the situation is not getting any better.
Please don't be ashamed. Get what you need for that's why it's there. Over the years, I've been up & down. I've needed assistance and received it from food stamps & pantries. When up, I've worked at pantries and they are the first place my charity money goes because I know what it's like to need to go there.
Right now both my wife & I are out of work and we receive food stamps. Given our skills this will be a temporary but very real need. I've been told, "To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven" and I've always found it to be true.
William
| 1075 |
prairiefire Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:14:39pm |
re: #1059 albusteve
They're grouchy after having to wake up so early.
| 1076 |
avanti Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:14:40pm |
re: #1051 Dark_Falcon
Classic cars. This is your subject.
It is, but that's a pretty big subject. I've owned over 400 collectible cars when I quit counting, but that was over 50 years. Some for a day or two, some a few years. BTW "Classic" cars with the capital "C" were models sold prior to 1947 and selected by the Classic Car Club of America, and I only owned one full Classic, a 1941 Cadillac 60 Special.
| 1077 |
wee fury Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:15:03pm |
| 1078 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:15:31pm |
re: #1075 prairiefire
They're grouchy after having to wake up so early.
probably have hands like rolling pins....whack!
| 1079 |
Mocking Jay Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:15:53pm |
re: #1073 windsagio
I thought the last season of Enterprise was pretty damn good. Like they knew it was over and decided to do as much cool stuff as they could. The rest? Too much damn time travel. Way too much. that's one sci-fi plot device I don't need to see again for a long while.
| 1080 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:16:49pm |
| 1082 |
WindHorse Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:17:19pm |
re: #1074 wlewisiii
I agree.... I remember not too many Christmases ago.... I had $19 in the bank.... which really sucked.... To all of youse in this boat.... my advice... head down.... stiff upper lip.... persevere....
| 1083 |
William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:17:48pm |
re: #886 windsagio
*Struggles to stifle rant about how the original Battlestar Galactica was infinitely superior to the new one, which was crap, because nobody agrees with me*
That is true but I've always had bigger trouble from people who keep telling me that Firefly was good TV. Sorry, but "Outlaw Josey Wales in Space" just doesn't trip my trigger
//rimshot...
William
| 1084 |
windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:18:21pm |
re: #1079 JasonA
Oh I agree, they finally found their feet and they got Cancelled. Season 5 was gonna have Kzin, and from what I saw looked neat.
But Paramount decided to kill it, and then put the lid on by having #(*&$ Frakes write the last episode.
re: #1083 wlewisiii
I don't know you, but I Like you!
| 1085 |
Girth Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:18:28pm |
I just remember asking one of my friends when I found out, "Wait, you mean there's a Borg on the ship, and she's smokin' hot? That's the dumbest thing I ever heard." Pretty much sealed the deal for me not to watch Voyager.
| 1087 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:19:03pm |
one of the htree or four most beautiful cars ever made in America imo...67 Chevelle
| 1088 |
Mocking Jay Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:19:16pm |
re: #1083 wlewisiii
That is true but I've always had bigger trouble from people who keep telling me that Firefly was good TV. Sorry, but "Outlaw Josey Wales in Space" just doesn't trip my trigger
//rimshot...
William
I had to get past that myself. Once I did I was able to enjoy the characters, which are often fantastic. It's what Whedon does well, after all.
| 1089 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:19:24pm |
re: #843 Alouette
Was talking to a friend of mine tonight who called me to wish me "Happy Holidays". We spoke for a bit, before both admitting that the past year has been "challenging" (to say the least).
We both, agreed, that our challenges pale in comparison to others that we know. And we should be grateful (to say the least).
Help is available for those who really need it, and those who really need it make me feel that the system is necessary.
You are in my prayers.
| 1090 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:19:42pm |
Did this image I posted cause the thread to coalesce into parallel discussions of cars and Star Trek?
| 1092 |
windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:20:47pm |
re: #1090 The Sanity Inspector
I don't know what caused it, but its brilliant!
ALSO:
General Manifesto
If a Science Fiction product takes itself too seriously, it sucks
| 1093 |
wee fury Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:21:07pm |
re: #1090 The Sanity Inspector
Did this image I posted cause the thread to coalesce into parallel discussions of cars and Star Trek?
Yes. It is all your fault.
| 1094 |
laZardo Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:21:42pm |
re: #1090 The Sanity Inspector
This sounds crazy but I actually kinda miss those 'spinny' rims.
| 1095 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:22:19pm |
re: #1089 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Was talking to a friend of mine tonight who called me to wish me "Happy Holidays". We spoke for a bit, before both admitting that the past year has been "challenging" (to say the least).
We both, agreed, that our challenges pale in comparison to others that we know. And we should be grateful (to say the least).
Help is available for those who really need it, and those who really need it make me feel that the system is necessary.
You are in my prayers.
just today SS informed me I am going to start getting back some of my money, due to a medical problem...I love the feds!
| 1096 |
Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:22:22pm |
re: #1064 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I'm a big fan of my 2002 Highlander. 125k miles, only routine maintenence, so far!
| 1097 |
windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:22:44pm |
re: #1076 avanti
You should bug WindUpBird about that subject sometime (I'd get him to come join, but he's offline, the ass) he feels strongly on the subject >>
| 1098 |
wee fury Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:23:09pm |
Friend of mine has a 1940 Ford Coupe. It is art.
| 1100 |
Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:23:40pm |
re: #1074 wlewisiii
My dinger isn't working, or you'd get a + for this!
| 1101 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:23:42pm |
re: #1096 Floral Giraffe
I'm a big fan of my 2002 Highlander. 125k miles, only routine maintenence, so far!
those are not cars...they are vehicles with no personality whatsoever
| 1103 |
Mocking Jay Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:25:06pm |
re: #1101 albusteve
those are not cars...they are vehicles with no personality whatsoever
I'd say the same about my '02 Focus. Bleh. i miss my first car, an '81 T-Bird. Loved that thing.
| 1104 |
Girth Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:25:08pm |
My dad had a '65 Mustang convertible sitting in the garage when I was a kid. Sold it when I was 4 or 5. That really stung as I got close to 16.
| 1106 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:25:26pm |
re: #1094 laZardo
This sounds crazy but I actually kinda miss those 'spinny' rims.
"Miss"? They're still all over the place here. Mostly favored by the thriftless title pawn set.
| 1107 |
Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:25:41pm |
re: #1095 albusteve
Congratulations!
| 1108 |
tradewind Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:25:53pm |
re: #1064 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I'm on my third Toyota, second Highlander ( this one is a hybrid), and I have never put one in the shop for anything but maintenance. It's almost scary how they don't break.
| 1109 |
tradewind Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:26:33pm |
re: #1101 albusteve
But man, they are absolute bastions of safety. Gotta count for a lot.
| 1110 |
Jaerik Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:26:33pm |
Hesitant to bring up a topic from earlier in the thread, but DailyKOS has a post about Limbaugh up, and it seems they're trying to be reasonably classy about it.
| 1111 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:26:35pm |
| 1112 |
Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:26:44pm |
| 1113 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:27:00pm |
I'm driving a green 1998 Ford Taurus. I call it The Bullfrog.
| 1116 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:27:30pm |
| 1118 |
tradewind Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:27:50pm |
re: #1110 Jaerik
That's nice, because their kindred twitter spirits are most definitely not.
| 1119 |
Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:28:04pm |
re: #1111 albusteve
sorry, forget that piece of crap...this is a GTO dude
[Link: www.seriouswheels.com...]
Oh yeah! Mine's better!
//
| 1120 |
srjh Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:28:10pm |
Is Limbaugh in the same hospital that Obama was born in?
I'm not going to wish ill of him, but if that happened, it would certainly be ironic.
| 1121 |
WindHorse Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:28:17pm |
| 1122 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:28:20pm |
re: #1107 Floral Giraffe
and thanks, your feds at work, doing the right thing
| 1123 |
Mocking Jay Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:28:21pm |
re: #1114 laZardo
Are you a Watchmen fan?
| 1124 |
laZardo Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:28:55pm |
re: #1119 Gus 802
Oh yeah! Mine's
betterbigger!//
/what it all boils down to, but i don't mind. ;D
| 1125 |
Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:29:05pm |
re: #1116 albusteve
Better late than never!
I hope this makes things easier for you!
| 1127 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:29:23pm |
re: #1109 tradewind
But man, they are absolute bastions of safety. Gotta count for a lot.
race cars...repeat after me...race cars
| 1129 |
tradewind Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:30:01pm |
re: #1120 srjh
What seems a little ironic is that you'd think about that, not wishing him ill and all...//
| 1130 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:30:27pm |
| 1132 |
What, me worry? Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:30:40pm |
re: #1115 Sharmuta
I miss women who rock
[Video]
Hmmm. I'll take the Wilson sisters.
One of the most amazing concerts I ever saw.
| 1133 |
tradewind Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:30:55pm |
re: #1127 albusteve
With three kids and two golden retrievers?
I don't think so.
:)
| 1135 |
Mocking Jay Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:31:39pm |
re: #1128 laZardo
Yeah, that's why I asked :)
| 1136 |
MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:31:52pm |
re: #1039 Girth
Overall, Picard. But, Wrath of Khan. I mean come on!
Kirk, my old friend, you're still alive..
Still. Old friend. You've managed to kill just about everyone else down here but like a poor marksman you just keep missing the target.
Most definitely...while I grew up with TNG, I love (most of) the movies with the TOS cast. ST:TMP is alright (though pretty much just a full-length TV episode, which it was originally written to be), never really cared for The Final Frontier, but The Wrath of Khan, The Search for Spock, The Voyage Home (all of these should be considered three parts of the same story arc), and The Undiscovered Country are excellent and worth owning.
re: #1038 Jaerik
Same. Although the tie-breaker for me is sort of a second-order thing: Picard's cerebral strengths lent themselves to arguably more interesting storyline possibilities over time. I love Kirk too, but there's only so many iterations of "beat up the bad guy and sleep with the hot alien chick" you can shoot before it starts to get a little repetitive.
By the time of the Wrath of Khan/Search for Spock/Voyage Home arc, Kirk was still impulsive, but put a bit more thought into situations. His ace-in-the-hole, however, was Spock...when Spock died at the end of Wrath of Khan, you could tell that Kirk felt the loss of a friend that tempered his impulsive nature, something he got back with the reborn Spock throughout Voyage Home.
re: #1043 JasonA
My answer?
Sisko.
Loved Avery Brooks as Sisko...a total badass along the lines of Kirk, but with a little of Picard's qualities as well (among other things, Sisko could do bald very well).
| 1137 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:31:56pm |
re: #1117 WindHorse
beautiful!
yes, vintage Americana...it really is design art imo...and then the whole performance aspect...I love that stuff
| 1138 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:32:15pm |
re: #1126 windsagio
Updinged for Bruce McCall namecheck. Everyone here would enjoy dipping through his book Zany Afternoons.
| 1140 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:33:20pm |
re: #1133 tradewind
With three kids and two golden retrievers?
I don't think so.
:)
get rid of the kids...problem solved
| 1141 |
WindHorse Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:33:20pm |
re: #1137 albusteve
it really is hard to beat a 1967 goat..... imo....
| 1142 |
windsagio Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:34:00pm |
re: #1138 The Sanity Inspector
Oh lord, the first copy of that book I owned I... err, stole from the Library when I was 12. I think I've bought it 3 times since.
Funniest thing EVER
| 1143 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:34:04pm |
Okay, bedtime. Have a beer shower. RIP Dick Montana.
| 1144 |
MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:34:10pm |
re: #1141 WindHorse
it really is hard to beat a 1967 goat... imo...
But you can sure beat a mule...
///
| 1145 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:35:39pm |
| 1146 |
laZardo Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:36:01pm |
re: #1143 The Sanity Inspector
Okay, bedtime. Have a beer shower. RIP Dick Montana.
Hey, that's your fetish, pal. Not mine. ;D
| 1147 |
Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:36:50pm |
re: #1145 albusteve
yikes!...what the hell is that thing?...a Mustang?...my how they have matured
Aftermarket and all tricked out. Found here:
| 1148 |
Sharmuta Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:37:11pm |
I do personally know one chick who rocks, but she's kind of punk. No one in the world can scream and make it sound like music quite like her. It's a marvel. And yet she's really nice.
| 1149 |
Kronocide Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:37:24pm |
If this Star Trek and car crap doesn't stop I'm gonna start posting extreme knitting videos.
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wee fury Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:37:39pm |
re: #1120 srjh
Is Limbaugh in the same hospital that Obama was born in?
I'm not going to wish ill of him, but if that happened, it would certainly be ironic.
Well, yes. It is my theory that:
Rush and the President are not only secret friends, but that they -- along with Pelosi and Palin (who are also in Hawaii) are meeting in secret at the hospital Rush is now in and where our President was born, to forage (correct spelling) a comprehensive and inclusive new tax.
/
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:37:40pm |
re: #1141 WindHorse
it really is hard to beat a 1967 goat... imo...
for Pontiac no...GM was in orbit in those years 64-67...some terrific designs
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:38:17pm |
re: #1149 BigPapa
If this Star Trek and car crap doesn't stop I'm gonna start posting extreme knitting videos.
Hey! I'm going to send you a Pandora note. Look for it in a bit.
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Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:39:06pm |
re: #1145 albusteve
yikes!...what the hell is that thing?...a Mustang?...my how they have matured
Put together by these guys...
[Link: www.galpinautosports.com...]
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tradewind Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:39:19pm |
re: #292 Racer X
Yeah, thanks to the climate created by AG Eric Holdem.
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What, me worry? Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:40:05pm |
re: #1148 Sharmuta
I do personally know one chick who rocks, but she's kind of punk. No one in the world can scream and make it sound like music quite like her. It's a marvel. And yet she's really nice.
Were you a fan of Wendy O? She's a bit raunchy, you know, when raunchy was still cool.
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MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:40:11pm |
re: #1149 BigPapa
If this Star Trek and car crap doesn't stop I'm gonna start posting extreme knitting videos.
EXTREME KNITTING!!!...SUNDAY, SUNDAY, SUNDAY!!!
;-P
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tradewind Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:40:27pm |
re: #1150 wee fury
They'd really transfer Rush to a hospital in Kenya?//
(don't start)
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Kronocide Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:40:34pm |
re: #1152 Sharmuta
Cool, will do. I got to test up a $800k home theater system with SRV (Texas Flood) and The Who the other day.
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WindHorse Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:41:14pm |
Sharmuta..... here's one for ya....
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wee fury Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:41:18pm |
I'm going to bed now with my latest conspiracy theory.
| 1162 |
William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:41:19pm |
re: #1141 WindHorse
it really is hard to beat a 1967 goat... imo...
Heh. Take a Triumph Spitfire of that same vintage. Put a GT6 block in it. Add a supercharger, a bottle of nitrous & a Ford transmission... ;)
William
| 1163 |
Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:41:27pm |
re: #1108 tradewind
How do you like the hybrid vs the regular one?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:41:54pm |
re: #1141 WindHorse
it really is hard to beat a 1967 goat... imo...
Around a track a2005 Goat would annihalate it. ;-) But the aesthetics of the old ones are divine.
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Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:42:13pm |
| 1168 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:42:54pm |
re: #1159 BigPapa
Cool, will do. I got to test up a $800k home theater system with SRV (Texas Flood) and The Who the other day.
Texas Flood
| 1169 |
WindHorse Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:43:16pm |
re: #1165 WindUpBird
I wasn't thinking about raw speed or power... alone.... BUT with the look.... I stand by my statement!! :)
(even though a good friend did have an awesome spitfire....)
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:43:55pm |
re: #1165 WindUpBird
Around a track a2005 Goat would annihalate it. ;-) But the aesthetics of the old ones are divine.
around a track?..the GTO is an inline racer...not a Z28
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Kronocide Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:44:37pm |
re: #1168 albusteve
I was getting goose bumps. SRV sounds great nice and loud.
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WindHorse Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:45:05pm |
....on another note.... but similar in a way....
Anyone here been to Palacios, Texas???
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:45:40pm |
re: #1149 BigPapa
If this Star Trek and car crap doesn't stop I'm gonna start posting extreme knitting videos.
OK, DARE YOU!
Yes, I meant the cap lock!
LOL!
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Sharmuta Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:46:17pm |
re: #1172 WindHorse
...on another note... but similar in a way...
Anyone here been to Palacios, Texas???
Not me, but I think a certain weather man might have been drunk there once.
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:46:24pm |
re: #1172 WindHorse
...on another note... but similar in a way...
Anyone here been to Palacios, Texas???
not yet....
| 1177 |
Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:47:02pm |
re: #1156 marjoriemoon
Loved, Wendy!
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WindHorse Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:47:40pm |
| 1179 |
Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:48:39pm |
How about a 2008-D3-Cadillac-CTS
You can see the wheel there. ;)
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tradewind Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:48:47pm |
re: #1163 Floral Giraffe
There are pros and cons... I didn't want one that was any bigger , but these are a little longer and wider..... and this one's regular( not hybrid) battery doesn't have the tolerance for abuse of the old one (leave the door open overnight in the old one, no problem.... this one, it drains. The solution is to replace with a bigger battery, which I haven't done yet). I love not filling up more than once a month, and I can't really tell any difference in performance....and the insides are more ergonomic and handy.
| 1183 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:49:36pm |
the high performance Super Sport of guitars...
Image: fender_strat_hardtail.jpg
| 1185 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:50:27pm |
| 1186 |
William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:50:34pm |
re: #1169 WindHorse
I wasn't thinking about raw speed or power... alone... BUT with the look... I stand by my statement!! :)
(even though a good friend did have an awesome spitfire...)
Ok, given that though, I'll still stand by the Spitfire over the goat but it is in the top 5. IN order - Spit, Jag E type, 64.5 Mustang, Goat, Ferrari 250 GTO.
Honorable mention, Stutz Bearcat.
William
| 1188 |
Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:51:38pm |
re: #1162 wlewisiii
Two words.....
Sunbeam Tiger
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WindHorse Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:51:50pm |
re: #1186 wlewisiii
I would replace themustang with a 67 chevelle.... just me...
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Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:52:57pm |
re: #1189 WindHorse
I would replace themustang with a 67 chevelle... just me...
[Link: www.seriouswheels.com...]
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Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:53:54pm |
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albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:54:26pm |
re: #1186 wlewisiii
Ok, given that though, I'll still stand by the Spitfire over the goat but it is in the top 5. IN order - Spit, Jag E type, 64.5 Mustang, Goat, Ferrari 250 GTO.
Honorable mention, Stutz Bearcat.William
this is a two seat sports car...baaaad ass
Image: austin_healey_3000_red_vl.jpg
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:54:38pm |
re: #1181 Sharmuta
Britney Spears can't hold a candle to Pat Benatar.
Quite Concur, though to be fair she does not try to. Britney has always been manufactured in the main. She does not really have the mind or voice to truly break new ground and I think even she knows this. Still, she's managed to settle down and make a great year out of 2009. Not all stars can truly achieve greatness, the talents possessed by people like Mick Jagger being granted to very few.
| 1194 |
William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:54:55pm |
re: #1188 Floral Giraffe
Two words...
Sunbeam Tiger
Upding for that one :) I prefer the Spit, but man, that was a Shelby car IIRC and is, as a result, worthy of serious praise.
William
| 1195 |
Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:55:21pm |
re: #1180 tradewind
Thanks! Mine's a 4 cylinder ( which I REALLY didn't want, but that's another story) from the first model year ( which I also didn't want, but old car died). And mine is getting really good mileage. And yes, the new ones look bigger. I'm planning on driving mine into the ground. Hope fully over 300k miles!
| 1196 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:55:46pm |
re: #1191 Gus 802
[Link: www.seriouswheels.com...]
the Tiger was a ferocious little guy, no question
| 1197 |
tradewind Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:57:00pm |
re: #223 Linden Arden
What a joke that was. After 9-11, we had seven years of no attacks, thanks to all the ' bellicose rhetoric'. Obama has been here less than a year and there have already been two major incidents in this country.... Ft Hood and Flt 253.... and his Homeland Sec chief says ' the system worked '.
Cheese n' rice.
| 1199 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:58:45pm |
re: #1194 wlewisiii
Upding for that one :) I prefer the Spit, but man, that was a Shelby car IIRC and is, as a result, worthy of serious praise.
William
Spitfires are little dinky runabouts...sorry, no comparison to TR7 or AH 3000 or a Jag...second rate
| 1200 |
Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 9:59:33pm |
re: #1191 Gus 802
Small car, big engine. VROOOOM!
| 1201 |
Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:00:09pm |
| 1202 |
William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:00:21pm |
| 1203 |
Sharmuta Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:00:34pm |
Pat Benatar - Hit Me With Your Best Shot
Embedding disabled by request- sorry, you'll have to click.
| 1204 |
WindHorse Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:00:42pm |
re: #1200 Floral Giraffe
...small head, big hat - I'm proud to be.... from Dumas Texas....
(pronounced "Dumas")
| 1205 |
Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:02:46pm |
1940 Packard Woody - Side Angle
Looks like if needs a Ford Tri-motor by its side.
| 1206 |
Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:04:05pm |
re: #1201 Gus 802
I'm living in a post war building boom neighborhood. Most of the original owners here, worked for the aircraft industry & are now retired. I see a couple of great vintage cars, everyday! There's a REAL Shelby Cobra, that lives 3 blocks south of me. I'm not as knowlegeable as Albusteve on the Chevy brand, but there are some goodies around here!
| 1207 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:04:49pm |
| 1208 |
Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:05:21pm |
re: #1206 Floral Giraffe
I'm living in a post war building boom neighborhood. Most of the original owners here, worked for the aircraft industry & are now retired. I see a couple of great vintage cars, everyday! There's a REAL Shelby Cobra, that lives 3 blocks south of me. I'm not as knowlegeable as Albusteve on the Chevy brand, but there are some goodies around here!
Last Shelby Cobra I saw was at an air show. Nice, dark blue.
| 1210 |
Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:09:52pm |
re: #1209 Sharmuta
Susan is still my favorite woman who I think rocked in 2009.
Her CD is really good, a wide range of music all sung very well.
| 1211 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:11:47pm |
re: #1206 Floral Giraffe
I'm living in a post war building boom neighborhood. Most of the original owners here, worked for the aircraft industry & are now retired. I see a couple of great vintage cars, everyday! There's a REAL Shelby Cobra, that lives 3 blocks south of me. I'm not as knowlegeable as Albusteve on the Chevy brand, but there are some goodies around here!
there are three or four vintage Cobras around the north valley here in ABQ...I saw one at a mini show a month ago...1967, 427/640hp...classic blue with a white racing stripe...there were many different drive train packages through the years, some were extremely rare...the car I mention was one of around 40, built by Shelby in CA...half million plus dollar car...I sat in it!
| 1212 |
Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:11:55pm |
2009 Roush/Superformance Special Edition MKIII-R
This thing looks really nice.
| 1213 |
Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:14:09pm |
Hmm...I wonder how many folks are having browser issues with this thread, it breaks I.E. every time you try to open it. Then I had to upgrade my firefox version to be able to post, seems to be working fine now though.
| 1214 |
Killgore Trout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:15:02pm |
My first car: dodge dart
| 1215 |
Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:15:15pm |
re: #1211 albusteve
And, it looked good on you!
;)
| 1216 |
Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:15:22pm |
re: #1213 ausador
Hmm...I wonder how many folks are having browser issues with this thread, it breaks I.E. every time you try to open it. Then I had to upgrade my firefox version to be able to post, seems to be working fine now though.
Lots of posts... over 1200 now.
| 1217 |
Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:16:34pm |
re: #1214 Killgore Trout
Was it the lime green one?
| 1218 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:16:35pm |
re: #1212 Gus 802
2009 Roush/Superformance Special Edition MKIII-R
This thing looks really nice.
no kidding...what a beast!...these things are even lighter and faster than the classics...that is definitely no tomato can
| 1219 |
Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:17:21pm |
re: #1213 ausador
I had to re-load to be able to ding....
| 1220 |
Sharmuta Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:17:27pm |
re: #1213 ausador
Hmm...I wonder how many folks are having browser issues with this thread, it breaks I.E. every time you try to open it. Then I had to upgrade my firefox version to be able to post, seems to be working fine now though.
Try using the comment spy- the little spy glass icon under the article.
| 1221 |
Killgore Trout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:18:45pm |
re: #1217 Floral Giraffe
Nah, it was white with rust spots. 3 Speed manual transmission with the shifter on the steering column. I'd have a hell of a time driving it today, I'm a bit out of practice.
| 1222 |
Irenicum Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:18:51pm |
Howdilidoo there neighborinoos. What's the hot plate special tonight?
| 1223 |
Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:19:01pm |
re: #1214 Killgore Trout
My first car: dodge dart
First car I ever drove was a Plymouth Valiant which is basically a Dart. Although my first car was an AMC Hornet.
| 1224 |
Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:19:58pm |
re: #1218 albusteve
no kidding...what a beast!...these things are even lighter and faster than the classics...that is definitely no tomato can
Roush really knows there stuff. They had a couple of other high performance models at that site.
| 1225 |
Bob Dillon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:23:36pm |
| 1226 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:23:39pm |
re: #1224 Gus 802
Roush really knows there stuff. They had a couple of other high performance models at that site.
repros are a big market because the originals are so rare...but then they are state of the art everything in a classic shell design...pretty cool..when it comes to fast cars there is no recession to speak of
| 1227 |
Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:23:47pm |
| 1229 |
Dark_Falcon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:24:45pm |
re: #1222 Irenicum
Howdilidoo there neighborinoos. What's the hot plate special tonight?
Classic cars, something I know little about. I'm going to sign off for the night. Have a great evening all.
| 1230 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:24:49pm |
| 1231 |
Irenicum Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:25:45pm |
re: #1227 Gus 802
I wouldn't mind driving that. Sweet wheels!
| 1232 |
albusteve Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:26:09pm |
I'm out myself...
laundry girls need attention again
| 1233 |
Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:26:17pm |
re: #1230 albusteve
oh man!...what a gem!
Beautiful isn't it? The chrome detailing is great and so is the color. Pristine.
| 1234 |
Killgore Trout Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:26:24pm |
re: #1225 Bobibutu
Nice. I really wanted an MG midget but mom wouldn't allow it.
| 1235 |
Bob Dillon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:26:36pm |
re: #1229 Dark_Falcon
Classic cars, something I know little about. I'm going to sign off for the night. Have a great evening all.
Yeah ... you're just an aircraft nut. ;-)
| 1236 |
William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:27:06pm |
re: #1199 albusteve
Spitfires are little dinky runabouts...sorry, no comparison to TR7 or AH 3000 or a Jag...second rate
Yes, they require a bit of hands on to reach their potential but
1) they looked so much better than the TR series much less anything from AH. (I expect your mileage _will_ vary ... ;) )
2) a normal person could build them up.
Pure exotica would put the 250 GTO at the top of the list. But how many people can tune a Ferrari? Even this old tanker can comprend tuning a Spitfire. I consider that to be a very important consideration.
William
| 1237 |
Irenicum Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:27:19pm |
re: #1229 Dark_Falcon
My bro drove a Dodge Dart and would drag with it occasionally. He always lost.
| 1238 |
Bob Dillon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:29:35pm |
re: #1234 Killgore Trout
Nice. I really wanted an MG midget but mom wouldn't allow it.
The Berkeley was sweet. 650 lbs - 2 or 3 cyl Excelsior motorcycle engine - chain front wheel drive - aircraft aluminum frame. Gymkhana winner - the AH Sprite killed it in sales.
| 1239 |
Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:31:15pm |
re: #1236 wlewisiii
Ferrari SWB 250 , California Spyder. Man, oh man!
I got to drive one, once!
[Link: www.google.com...]
| 1240 |
WindHorse Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:32:25pm |
| 1241 |
Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:33:34pm |
re: #1239 Floral Giraffe
Ferrari SWB 250 , California Spyder. Man, oh man!
I got to drive one, once!
[Link: www.google.com...]
Nice shot here.
Oh no I'm dreaming again.
| 1242 |
Irenicum Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:34:22pm |
I'm an Alfa Romeo Spider guy myself. Those cars were (and are) white hot. Though I will always have a soft spot for the old school models.
| 1243 |
Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:36:40pm |
MSNBC needs to find new editors/proofreaders...
Since then, other soliders who served at Qarmat Ali have experienced serious illnesses. Some have died. First Sgt. David moore of the Indiana Army National Guard died of lunch disease in 2008 at age 42. The commander of Kimerling's Indiana Army National Guard Unity, Lt. Col James Gentry, died of a rare lunch cancer of the day before Thanksgiving. He had claimed to be a lifelong non-smoker.
Yeah, I heard those "lunch" diseases and cancers can be pretty dangerous, almost as serious as brunch or lupper diseases. /
You think maybe the author was watching the clock waiting for his lunch break when he wrote the article or what?
/its "lung" you dolt!
| 1244 |
Irenicum Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:36:42pm |
re: #1240 WindHorse
Tell me about it. My first car was a Dodge. It was also my only Dodge. I don't see ever getting one again.
| 1245 |
Bob Dillon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:36:53pm |
Definition of Acceleration:
* One Top Fuel dragster 500 cubic inch Hemi engine makes more horsepower than the first 4 rows of NASCARS at the Daytona 500.
* Under full throttle, a dragster engine consumes 1-1/2 gallons of nitromethane per second; a fully loaded 747 consumes jet fuel at the same rate with 25% less energy being produced.
* A stock Dodge Hemi V8 engine cannot produce enough power to drive the dragster's supercharger.
* With 3,000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid form before ignition. Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock at full throttle.
* At the stoichiometric (stoichiometry: methodology and technology by which quantities of reactants and products in chemical reactions are determined) 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture for nitromethane, the flame front temperature measures 7,050 degrees F.
* Nitromethane burns yellow. The spectacular white flame seen above the stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from atmospheric water vapor by the searing exhaust gases..
* Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug. This is the output of an arc welder in each cylinder.
* Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass. After halfway, the engine is dieseling from compression, plus the glow of exhaust valves at 1,400 degrees F. The engine can only be shut down by cutting the fuel flow.
* If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up in the affected cylinders and then explodes with sufficient force to blow cylinder heads off the block in pieces or split the block in half.
* In order to exceed 300 mph in 4.5 seconds, dragsters must accelerate an average of over 4G's. In order to reach 200 mph (well before half-track), the launch acceleration approaches 8G's.
* Dragsters reach over 300 miles per hour before you have completed reading this sentence.
* Top Fuel engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light!
* Including the burnout, the engine must only survive 900 revolutions under load.
* The redline is actually quite high at 9,500 rpm.
* Assuming all the equipment is paid off, the crew worked for free, and for once NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run costs an estimated $1,000.00 per second.
Now are you ready for some really amazing facts? Did you know …
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Bob Dillon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:38:18pm |
Now are you ready for some really amazing facts? Did you know …
… that the nitromethane-powered engines of NHRA Top Fuel dragsters and Funny Cars produce approximately 7,000 horsepower, about 37 times that of the average street car?
… that one cylinder of the eight cylinders of a Top Fuel dragster or a Funny Car produces 750 horsepower, equaling the entire horsepower output of a NASCAR engine?
… that the gasoline-powered engines of NHRA Pro Stock cars produce about 1,200 horsepower, about eight times that of the average street car?
… that an NHRA Top Fuel dragster accelerates from 0 to 100 mph in less than .8-second, almost 11 seconds quicker than it takes a production Porsche 911 Turbo to reach the same speed?
… that an NHRA Top Fuel dragster leaves the starting line with a force nearly five times that of gravity, the same force of the space shuttle when it leaves the launching pad at Cape Canaveral?
… that an NHRA Funny Car is slowed by a reverse force more than seven times that of gravity when both parachutes deploy simultaneously?
… that NHRA Top Fuel dragsters and Funny Cars consume between four and five gallons of fuel during a quarter-mile run, which is equivalent to between 16 and 20 gallons per mile?
… that NHRA Top Fuel dragsters and Funny Cars use between 10 and 12 gallons of fuel for a complete pass, including the burnout, backup to the starting line, and quarter-mile run?
… that NHRA Top Fuel dragsters and Funny Cars travel the length of more than four football fields in less than five seconds?
… that NHRA Top Fuel dragsters can exceed 280 mph in just 660 feet?
… that from a standing start, NHRA Top Fuel dragsters accelerate faster than a jumbo jet, a fighter jet, and a Formula One race car?
… that a fuel pump for an NHRA Top Fuel dragster and Funny Car delivers 65 gallons of fuel per minute, equivalent to eight bathroom showers running at the same time?
… that the fuel-line pressure for NHRA Top Fuel dragsters and Funny Cars is between 400 and 500 pounds, about 20 times greater than the pressure on passenger-car fuel pumps?
… that depending on size and angle, the large rear wing on an NHRA Top Fuel dragster develops between 4,000 and 8,000 pounds of downforce?
… that the 17-inch rear tires used on NHRA Top Fuel dragsters and Funny Cars wear out after four to six runs, or about two miles? Some brands of passenger-car tires are guaranteed for 80,000 miles.
… that it takes just 15/100ths of a second for all 7,000 horsepower of an NHRA Top Fuel dragster engine to reach the rear wheels?
… that it's desirable for an NHRA Top Fuel dragster to race with its front wheels inches off the ground for about the first 200 feet of the run? This ensures proper weight transfer to the rear wheels, a crucial part of a good launch and quick run.
… that the nitromethane used to power the engines of NHRA Top Fuel dragsters and Funny Cars costs about $30 per gallon?
| 1247 |
Bob Dillon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:38:29pm |
* The current Top Fuel dragster elapsed time record is 4.428 seconds for the quarter mile (11/12/06), Tony Schumacher). The top speed record is 333.00 mph. (533 km/h) as measured over the last 66' of the run (09/28/03, ! Doug Kalitta). Putting all of this into perspective: Imagine you are driving the average $140,000 Lingenfelter "twin-turbo" powered Corvette Z06. Over a mile up the road, a Top Fuel dragster is staged and ready to launch down a quarter mile strip as you pass. You have the advantage of a flying start. You run the 'Vette hard up through the gears and blast across the starting line and past the dragster at an honest 200 mph. The 'tree' goes green for both of you at that moment. The dragster launches and starts after you. You keep your foot down hard, but you hear an incredibly brutal whine that sears your eardrums and within 3 seconds, the dragster catches and passes you. He beats you to the finish line, a quarter mile away from where you just passed him. Think about it, from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you 200 mph and not only caught, but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed you within a mere 1,320 foot long race course. ... and that my friend, is ACCELERATION!
| 1248 |
Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:39:16pm |
re: #1241 Gus 802
So beautiful.
Thanks!
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:40:53pm |
re: #1245 Bobibutu
Bobibutu has got the vroom vrooms!
LOL!
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laZardo Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:41:14pm |
re: #1247 Bobibutu
... and that my friend, is ACCELERATION!
Pfft. Aircraft Carrier catapults launch things faster.
/ q:
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Irenicum Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:41:41pm |
Well, you car talk fans have fun. I'm just swinging by and seeing what's the topic du jour. As much as I love to drive, which I do, I've got 1000 miles ahead of me on New Year's day as I head back east. So I'm not relishing anything automotive right now. Today was seeing more friends and reading about science/faith issues. Over all, an excellent day!
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Bob Dillon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:42:19pm |
re: #1249 Floral Giraffe
Bobibutu has got the vroom vrooms!
LOL!
Lordy ... I love technology and cars. Vroom!
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Dancing along the light of day Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:43:00pm |
re: #1251 Irenicum
Have a safe trip.
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Irenicum Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:44:30pm |
re: #1253 Floral Giraffe
Thanks. The weather looks sucky for new year's day. I'll take it slow and be safe rather than sorry.
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Jaerik Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:46:57pm |
re: #1243 ausador
/its "lung" you dolt!
I'm gunna guess a fat-finger typo of "lungh" which the spell-checker then corrected to "lunch."
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Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:47:52pm |
re: #1252 Bobibutu
Lordy ... I love technology and cars. Vroom!
When I was a kid I used to draw top-fuel and funny cars all the time. I no longer watch but when I heard that they were doing over 300 mph these days I was really surprised.
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Bob Dillon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:49:00pm |
I was working (Hams - communications) at the Grand Nationals at Tulsa OK back in the 60s before front spoilers were required by rules. Couple of Funny Cars punched off ... 'bout half way down the strip one started to lift ... went airborne 'cuse it was over take off speed ... did a back flip .. thank goodness for roll cages - after all the flames and mess - the driver walked away. It was on Saturday (practice) so no TV cameras. I was standing on the edge of the strip when he went airborne right in front of me.
| 1258 |
William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:49:11pm |
Hey all, take care & have a good night.
Later,
William
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Bob Dillon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:51:55pm |
re: #1256 Gus 802
When I was a kid I used to draw top-fuel and funny cars all the time. I no longer watch but when I heard that they were doing over 300 mph these days I was really surprised.
Never ceases to amaze me. I have a thing for stuff that goes boom as well.
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Bob Dillon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:54:41pm |
re: #1250 laZardo
Pfft. Aircraft Carrier catapults launch things faster.
/ q:
And I have been launched - 5 times from Yankee Station (as a passenger) - everything that ain't bolted down moves to the back of the plane real quick - opposite on landing. Very noisy. Pencils, pens, nuts, etc.
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Gus Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:55:15pm |
re: #1259 Bobibutu
Never ceases to amaze me. I have a thing for stuff that goes boom as well.
Oh yeah. Afterburner booms. I was sitting at the edge of runway once and right over my head at about 300 feet was the USAF West Coast demo team F-15 Eagle. At one point it was so loud and this kid next to me was jumping up and down all excited that I fell over laughing.
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Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:56:19pm |
Ok, off to the new thread that isn't bogged down with almost 1300 posts...see ya upstairs.
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Bob Dillon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 11:03:34pm |
re: #1262 Gus 802
Oh yeah. Afterburner booms. I was sitting at the edge of runway once and right over my head at about 300 feet was the USAF West Coast demo team F-15 Eagle. At one point it was so loud and this kid next to me was jumping up and down all excited that I fell over laughing.
SCUBA diving at Catalina ... taking a break on the front deck resting... dot appeared on the horizon .. closer ... closer .. and an F-16 punched vertical right over the boat.
Jaw on the deck!
Great story of a Blackbird doing a pass in England ... see if i can find it.
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Bob Dillon Wed, Dec 30, 2009 11:10:55pm |
re: #1264 Bobibutu
[Link: forums.jetcareers.com...]
Brian Shul, Retired SR-71 Pilot via Plane and Pilot Magazine
As a former SR-71 pilot, and a professional keynote speaker, the question I'm most often asked is "How fast would that SR-71 fly?" I can be assured of hearing that question several times at any event I attend. It's an interesting question, given the aircraft's proclivity for speed, but there really isn't one number to give, as the jet would always give you a little more speed if you wanted it to. It was common to see 35 miles a minute. Because we flew a programmed Mach number on most missions, and never wanted to harm the plane in any way, we never let it run out to any limits of temperature or speed. Thus, each SR-71 pilot had his own individual “high” speed that he saw at some point on some mission. I saw mine over Libya when Khadafy fired two missiles my way, and max power was in order. Let’s just say that the plane truly loved speed and effortlessly took us to Mach numbers we hadn’t previously seen.
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Cheechako Wed, Dec 30, 2009 11:52:41pm |
re: #1111 albusteve
sorry, forget that piece of crap...this is a GTO dude
[Link: www.seriouswheels.com...]
A 66 GTO! Damn, that's exactly like the one I used to own! 389, 4 on the floor and could pass everything but a gas station. Unfortunately, this can't be mine as my wife got into a collision and the repair shop put a 67 front end on it.
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