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1 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 4:58:29pm

Charles you are turning a Rock & Roll man into a Jazz fan...
Thanks, very nice end to a hectic day at work. Perfect music to have floating in my head as I lock up and walk to the subway.

2 reine.de.tout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:09:58pm

Empty in here.
Where is everybody?

3 reine.de.tout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:12:15pm

Oh, btw -
Alouette
Obdicut
Bubblehead II

All of you sent recipes and it appears we'll be able to get them into the book.

We "lost" one of the people doing the book, so Jaunte has taken over the design, etc. So, it will be published; but obviously much later than we anticipated and desired.

4 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:18:13pm

re: #3 reine.de.tout

Good news. I was beginning to think it was a dead project.

5 reine.de.tout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:18:38pm

re: #4 Killgore Trout

Good news. I was beginning to think it was a dead project.

Naw.
Just personnel problems, and time issues.

6 Bagua  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:22:23pm

Hard Road Blues

7 Bagua  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:23:55pm

re: #1 Rightwingconspirator

Charles you are turning a Rock & Roll man into a Jazz fan...
Thanks, very nice end to a hectic day at work. Perfect music to have floating in my head as I lock up and walk to the subway.

Eeek, you are not suggesting change are you!?! *shudder*

8 Racer X  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:24:08pm
9 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:24:30pm

Stalkers are always signing me up for mailing lists, but there's somebody out there right now who's more persistent and annoying than anyone else yet. I seem to suddenly be signed up to about a thousand mailing lists for all kinds of crap -- any mailing list that doesn't require a confirmation.

What a weird thing to do.

10 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:25:43pm

re: #9 Charles

Stalkers are always signing me up for mailing lists, but there's somebody out there right now who's more persistent and annoying than anyone else yet. I seem to suddenly be signed up to about a thousand mailing lists for all kinds of crap -- any mailing list that doesn't require a confirmation.

What a weird thing to do.

Definitely someone who's mad at Daddy.

11 reine.de.tout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:27:17pm

re: #10 EmmmieG

Definitely someone who's mad at Daddy.

These are not people who have a particularly firm grip on sanity and maturity.

12 Bagua  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:27:21pm

re: #9 Charles

Stalkers are always signing me up for mailing lists, but there's somebody out there right now who's more persistent and annoying than anyone else yet. I seem to suddenly be signed up to about a thousand mailing lists for all kinds of crap -- any mailing list that doesn't require a confirmation.

What a weird thing to do.

Some sort of personality disorder to be certain. It takes a lot of effort and sustained malice to try to heckle you in that way by abusing your personal details.

13 albusteve  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:27:33pm

big ass stand up bass...cool instrument, pluck em or use a bow

14 freetoken  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:27:47pm

In looking at a stream of online articles, via news aggregators (such as the UK NewsNow), it's easy to get depressed about the current "culture" in the US.

I am referring in particular at how the various "climategate" and related AGW issues, and specifically the denier rants and ravings, are propagating through the the online chatter (websites, opinions, blogs, etc.)

I keep reminding myself I live in a country where only 1/4 or so of the people (as highlighted by Pew polling) accept that life forms around us evolved over time through natural selection, and so it is reasonable to expect that something as esoteric as climatology simply won't be understood by the majority...

... but it doesn't make me feel any better about where my country is heading.

There is a very real, and apparently growing, gap between the belief systems of groups of my fellow Americans.

This parallels other divisions in our society (wealth, language) that is growing faster than the rate of population growth (about 1% per year) itself would indicate.

I fear we will indeed turn into a nation where the marxists' accusations have (IMO falsely) in the past characterized the US: we will have a ruling class with all the money and knowledge (and the two go together) and a large mass of workers, uneducated, illiterate, and kept docile by a diet of religion, "bread" (Cheetos ?) and circuses (WWE, NASCAR, etc.)

It was not that way in my parent's childhood - even though poorly educated on a document level, they valued knowledge and expertise, and came from a time when owners and landlords were part of communities and, while there often were great inequalities of opportunity, the majority at least gave ascent to an ideal that could be thought of as Western Modernity, including progress through knowledge.

Populism is not new. However, the latest variant in this country seems to be highly amplified through a very powerful tool (the internet), and even more so, there appears to be powerful economic interests that see more potential (for increased wealth accumulation) in populism than progress. That latter part may be the new thing.

15 albusteve  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:28:20pm

re: #6 Bagua

Hard Road Blues

[Video]

nice...who dat?

16 albusteve  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:29:36pm

re: #11 reine.de.tout

These are not people who have a particularly firm grip on sanity and maturity.

net voyeurs.....creepsters

17 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:30:32pm

Hi folks.
Any blues fans here who are familiar with the current work of an aging axeman named Walter Trout? I'd like to know if he is well known and whether he can still deliver the goods before I lay down some serious coin for tickets.

18 Racer X  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:31:28pm

re: #14 freetoken

Nascar is a circus?

19 reine.de.tout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:32:57pm

This has to be totally embarrassing:

Mint fires boss over coin typo

SANTIAGO (Reuters) – Chile's mint has sacked its managing director after he sent into circulation thousands of coins bearing an incorrect spelling of the country's name.

The 50-peso coins, worth around 10 U.S. cents each, were issued in 2008 with Chile spelled "Chiie" -- an error that was only noticed late last year.

"Director Gregorio Iniguez has been fired over a series of issues, including the misspelled coins, which have brought the institution into disrepute," a mint official told Reuters on Friday, speaking on condition of anonymity.

"Some of the coins are still in circulation. They still carry their value. Some collectors are buying them up because they feel they are rare," the official said.

20 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:34:18pm

re: #19 reine.de.tout

This has to be totally embarrassing:

Mint fires boss over coin typo

picky, picky, picky.

21 albusteve  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:34:32pm

re: #17 Spare O'Lake

Hi folks.
Any blues fans here who are familiar with the current work of an aging axeman named Walter Trout? I'd like to know if he is well known and whether he can still deliver the goods before I lay down some serious coin for tickets.

I've seen him a few times....he popped at a Little Feat gig one time and was really fun...an old shredder, not the greatest tho

22 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:34:37pm

re: #17 Spare O'Lake

Hi folks.
Any blues fans here who are familiar with the current work of an aging axeman named Walter Trout? I'd like to know if he is well known and whether he can still deliver the goods before I lay down some serious coin for tickets.

Walter Trout is great! Kind of proto-Stevie Ray Vaughn blues guitar. I have a couple of his records.

Here's one at iTunes Store to hear samples -- the iTunes Store has a new feature that opens a browser window to hear samples, you don't need iTunes installed:

[Link: click.linksynergy.com...]

23 arethusa  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:34:48pm

re: #19 reine.de.tout

But think of all the happy coin collectors! Those coins will now be worth something.

24 albusteve  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:35:52pm

Dust My Broom
Walter Trout

25 albusteve  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:38:07pm

Trout in a studio

26 charlz  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:38:31pm

The video's focus on Gary Peacock is pretty cool. He's an amazing bassist and this trio configuration performs amazingly well together.

27 reine.de.tout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:38:37pm

re: #23 arethusa

But think of all the happy coin collectors! Those coins will now be worth something.

Maybe - they've had the typo since 2008 - that's a lot of coins, I would think. They may be an oddity, but I'm not sure how rare it would be to have one of these things.

28 Bagua  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:39:05pm

re: #15 albusteve

nice...who dat?

That is Buddy Moss.

(are you able to download mp3's you like?)

29 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:40:41pm

re: #22 Charles

Thanks for the info, Charles.
That's a great samples link too!

30 albusteve  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:41:36pm

re: #28 Bagua

That is Buddy Moss.

(are you able to download mp3's you like?)

never have, but I don't see why not...I don't have a player so I never had an interest....I have access to more music than I could ever get around to listening to....I'm still a CD guy

31 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:42:28pm

re: #24 albusteve

That's goooood!

32 Unakite  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:42:57pm

re: #4 Killgore Trout

Good news. I was beginning to think it was a dead project.

Heh, saw a "Dead" project Friday night. Not quite the original music, but Big Fun anyway.

33 albusteve  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:43:05pm

Walter and Joe B at some festival....pretty cool

34 MandyManners  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:43:41pm

Russia sees no reason to stall on the sale of its S-300 anti-aircraft systems to Iran, the Kremlin's powerful Security Council said Sunday, hours before the premier of Iran's adversary Israel was due to visit Moscow.

The possible sale of Russian air defense hardware to the Islamic Republic is a major irritant for both Israel and close ally the United States. Both have pressed Moscow not to go ahead with a deal that may help protect Iran's nuclear facilities from potential air strikes.

"There is a signed contract (to supply S-300 missiles) which we must implement, but deliveries have not started yet," Vladimir Nazarov, deputy secretary of Russia's Security Council secretary, told Interfax news agency in an interview.

"This deal is not restricted by any international sanctions, because the talk is about deliveries of an exclusively defensive weapon," he said.

Nazarov also said a military strike on Iran would be a big mistake and that the problems linked to Iran's nuclear program must be resolved only by diplomatic means.

SNIP

35 Bagua  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:43:56pm

re: #30 albusteve

never have, but I don't see why not...I don't have a player so I never had an interest...I have access to more music than I could ever get around to listening to...I'm still a CD guy

If you want any of the music I post let me know and I'll send you the CD with it.

36 albusteve  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:45:29pm

re: #35 Bagua

If you want any of the music I post let me know and I'll send you the CD with it.

mighty generous...thanks

37 Unakite  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:46:57pm

re: #13 albusteve

big ass stand up bass...cool instrument, pluck em or use a bow

My son has been playing cello for a couple of years. Not the same, but then he is only 12. I'm proud of him. Tried to do "Devil went down to Georgia" on it last night. Not very good, but was impressed that he tried.

38 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:47:45pm

I'm currently downloading the first two seasons of "Lost," because Richard Metzger talked me into giving it a try. It was compared to "The Sopranos" in terms of quality; but we'll just see about that, won't we?

When Lost first came out I watched an episode, but didn't get into it. Maybe watching in sequence will change the experience.

39 Digital Display  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:49:07pm

re: #32 Unakite

Heh, saw a "Dead" project Friday night. Not quite the original music, but Big Fun anyway.

I once got to sit at the board in Santa Cruz at a live show with Roger Buffalo doing the sound.. It was pretty cool...

40 albusteve  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:49:18pm

re: #37 Unakite

My son has been playing cello for a couple of years. Not the same, but then he is only 12. I'm proud of him. Tried to do "Devil went down to Georgia" on it last night. Not very good, but was impressed that he tried.

cellos are way cool...Cato posted a Pablo Casals gig the other night....very tasty

41 Bagua  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:50:22pm

So Glad


- Big Joe Williams
42 freetoken  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:51:52pm

re: #38 Charles

When Lost first came out I watched an episode, but didn't get into it. Maybe watching in sequence will change the experience.

Me too. I'm not one much for soap operas, so the idea that I have to watch the preceding N-1 episodes to understand the Nth doesn't appeal to me.

43 Bagua  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:52:18pm

re: #36 albusteve

mighty generous...thanks

My email is blue this post, feel free to use it.

44 darthstar  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:52:29pm

re: #1 Rightwingconspirator

Charles you are turning a Rock & Roll man into a Jazz fan...
Thanks, very nice end to a hectic day at work. Perfect music to have floating in my head as I lock up and walk to the subway.

Good jazz is just as good as good rock-n-roll. Might I also suggest the original "speed metal" as I like to call it...

45 freetoken  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:53:36pm

re: #18 Racer X

Nascar is a circus?

In a way, yes.

Oh, not like Ringling Bros. - that would be more WWE territory (complete with giants and midgets.)

More like the Roman Circuses.

46 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:54:35pm

re: #38 Charles

I'm currently downloading the first two seasons of "Lost," because Richard Metzger talked me into giving it a try. It was compared to "The Sopranos" in terms of quality; but we'll just see about that, won't we?

When Lost first came out I watched an episode, but didn't get into it. Maybe watching in sequence will change the experience.

Try to stick with it if you can. I almost gave up on it a couple times because at points I thought they were just randomly making shit up. The story does have a few dead ends but not as many as you might think at times. It's by far the best thing that's been on TV in a very long time. It might help to watch the enhanced versions since you're starting late. Trying to google some of the more mysterious elements of the story will turn up too many spoilers.

47 Bagua  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:54:46pm

re: #38 Charles

I'm currently downloading the first two seasons of "Lost," because Richard Metzger talked me into giving it a try. It was compared to "The Sopranos" in terms of quality; but we'll just see about that, won't we?

When Lost first came out I watched an episode, but didn't get into it. Maybe watching in sequence will change the experience.

I will be signing off in 5 to watch the rebroadcast of last weeks episode so I can discuss Lost with Walter and turn of teh gaze.

I love it, as witness I hooked up my TV to receive signals, which took me half an hour to figure out. But I agree with Freetoken, the OTT soap opera stuff damages what is otherwise a good series.

48 Racer X  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:55:24pm

re: #38 Charles

"Lost" can be frustrating at first. So many plot twists. Then once the whole time-shifting starts (season 3?) it becomes a chore to keep up (for me anyway). I hate that I'm addicted to it.

49 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:56:13pm

re: #42 freetoken

A soap opera doesn't really go anywhere. There is a trajectory to the story of Lost. There are soap opera elements to Lost that do bug me but the overall story is pretty damn good.

50 Unakite  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:56:53pm

re: #40 albusteve

cellos are way cool...Cato posted a Pablo Casals gig the other night...very tasty

I must admit that my parents were musically talented but some things skip generations (i.e., me). My son played violin in the fifth grade and we had an opportunity to take him to see Itzhak Perlman (my son will never play like that, but we enjoyed it).

51 Bagua  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:57:34pm

LOST is on, (computer time wrong)

BBL

52 Digital Display  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:58:12pm

re: #42 freetoken

Me too. I'm not one much for soap operas, so the idea that I have to watch the preceding N-1 episodes to understand the Nth doesn't appeal to me.

Exactly.. I've tried every year..But it's a night time soap opera with silly story lines....Flat out...But wait! They have ever dumber story lines this year...
So Charles..At least you know when starting season one of dumb story lines..It's only going to get worse....Much worse...

53 albusteve  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:58:34pm

re: #41 Bagua

So Glad


[Video]
- Big Joe Williams

I like this sort of stuff...back to the Delta, to the beginning

54 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:58:56pm

So i just saved my friend a few grand by being the car geek who INSISTED she Carfax every car she looked at buying. Saved her from getting a Subie Legacy with probably triple the actual miles shown on the (turned out to be broken) odometer. :D

55 albusteve  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 5:59:50pm

re: #44 darthstar

Good jazz is just as good as good rock-n-roll. Might I also suggest the original "speed metal" as I like to call it...


[Video]

WHAT?
wth?
no way

56 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:00:04pm

re: #38 Charles

I'm currently downloading the first two seasons of "Lost," because Richard Metzger talked me into giving it a try. It was compared to "The Sopranos" in terms of quality; but we'll just see about that, won't we?

When Lost first came out I watched an episode, but didn't get into it. Maybe watching in sequence will change the experience.

I definitely know Carnivale, Rome, and Deadwood are comparable to the Sopranos in terms of quality. :D HBO FTW

57 reine.de.tout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:00:07pm

re: #54 WindUpBird

So i just saved my friend a few grand by being the car geek who INSISTED she Carfax every car she looked at buying. Saved her from getting a Subie Legacy with probably triple the actual miles shown on the (turned out to be broken) odometer. :D

Everyone should get the CarFax for a used car they are thinking about buying.

Best thing since sliced bread - well, sort of and almost.

58 freetoken  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:00:30pm

re: #49 Killgore Trout

A soap opera doesn't really go anywhere.

Well, maybe. Dallas seemed to be going in a direction for a while. And before that, Dark Shadows (remember that one?) had a sense of progress to it.

59 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:00:42pm

Just got the news that the guy who shit-canned me and a bunch of other loyal "friends" back in 2006 has now felt the boot himself.

Schadenfreude, my love, come into my arms! Smooch!

60 albusteve  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:00:44pm

re: #49 Killgore Trout

A soap opera doesn't really go anywhere. There is a trajectory to the story of Lost. There are soap opera elements to Lost that do bug me but the overall story is pretty damn good.

does it involve a football?

61 prairiefire  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:01:12pm

Cool music for my mellow evening.

62 Olsonist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:01:18pm

re: #56 WindUpBird

I thought The Sopranos started well and ended well. It did not, however, middle well.

63 Olsonist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:02:26pm

re: #59 Cato the Elder

Payback's an ex.

64 darthstar  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:02:35pm

re: #55 albusteve

WHAT?
wth?
no way

Get thee to a bluegrass show, Steve...While the banjo video is good, watching a good mandolin player is pure heaven.

65 prairiefire  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:02:54pm

I hear someone who sounds like Billy Corgan in the background?

66 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:04:14pm

re: #55 albusteve

WHAT?
wth?
no way

The band that is currently the most acclaimed band in metal has a lead guitarist who hybrid picks, because he learned as a banjo player.

Bluegrass and metal, they have quite a bit in common. fast virtuoso playing with lots of syncopation that requires impeccable timing. Music is universal.

Oh yeah, and here's a Bluegrass Tribute band that covers Metallica: [Link: music.barnesandnoble.com...]

67 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:04:56pm

re: #57 reine.de.tout

Everyone should get the CarFax for a used car they are thinking about buying.

Best thing since sliced bread - well, sort of and almost.

It's brilliant. I love it when dealers just HAVE the carfax taped to the window.

68 albusteve  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:05:05pm

re: #64 darthstar

Get thee to a bluegrass show, Steve...While the banjo video is good, watching a good mandolin player is pure heaven.

I have seen plenty of blue grass and other old timey stuff...went to the Wheatland festival in Remus MI every year for 22 straight years....tons of excellent pickin on anything with strings

69 Digital Display  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:06:06pm

re: #65 prairiefire

I hear someone who sounds like Billy Corgan in the background?

American Idol is on the big screen really loud.. Very deep pool of singers this year.. This is the most talented group of kids I've seen in years...

70 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:06:08pm

re: #64 darthstar

Get thee to a bluegrass show, Steve...While the banjo video is good, watching a good mandolin player is pure heaven.

Oh, I think he 's more disagreeing with the metal associations.

Which is sad, because Brent Hinds is legion.

71 simoom  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:06:25pm

Kind of an original Tea Party music video (parody):

"Too Late to Apologize"

72 darthstar  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:06:48pm

re: #68 albusteve

I have seen plenty of blue grass and other old timey stuff...went to the Wheatland festival in Remus MI every year for 22 straight years...tons of excellent pickin on anything with strings

I knew there was something I liked about you. Cheers.

73 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:07:02pm

re: #62 Olsonist

I thought The Sopranos started well and ended well. It did not, however, middle well.

I haven't watched the whole run, just episodes here and there. I'm sorta hard to convince to sit down and watch TV. Too much nervous energy.

74 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:07:08pm

re: #63 Olsonist

Payback's an ex.

Payback, my friend, is imagining this guy who thinks he's the Nietzschean superman and has never worked at any other company in his life taking his résumé as a bullshit artist and trying to find work.

As a German sword collector, maybe he can open a fukkin' bratwurst stand and use his blades as skewers.

75 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:08:16pm

re: #57 reine.de.tout
Your Lolcat RDT!
[Link: icanhascheezburger.com...]

76 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:09:24pm

Alert... reminder... tonight... and new episode of LOST... "The Substitute."

77 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:09:33pm

re: #57 reine.de.tout

Everyone should get the CarFax for a used car they are thinking about buying.

Best thing since sliced bread - well, sort of and almost.

No - the best thing since sliced bread is GPS. Saved my bacon twice the first day I owned it.

I'm just waiting for the Bob Dylan celebrity guide voice to come out.

"Mannn, if you don't turn here, you're gonna end up on Highway 61 with a thousand telephones that don't ring."

78 albusteve  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:09:33pm

re: #66 WindUpBird

The band that is currently the most acclaimed band in metal has a lead guitarist who hybrid picks, because he learned as a banjo player.

Bluegrass and metal, they have quite a bit in common. fast virtuoso playing with lots of syncopation that requires impeccable timing. Music is universal.

Oh yeah, and here's a Bluegrass Tribute band that covers Metallica: [Link: music.barnesandnoble.com...]

says I don't have Windows Media Player installed....brand new HP machine...gotta look into this

79 keloyd  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:10:13pm

re: #62 Olsonist

I thought The Sopranos started well and ended well. It did not, however, middle well.

True, but one middle season (3?) was intended to have a long story arc where Tony and his mother come to terms with some stuff, or line up their factions and keep fighting, or something. Nancy Marchand's sudden death forced them to hastily rewrite the whole thing, and it shows.

80 prairiefire  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:11:32pm

re: #79 keloyd

They way they CGI'd her into some scenes was spooky and looked awful. She was a very strong character.

81 albusteve  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:11:48pm

re: #72 darthstar

I knew there was something I liked about you. Cheers.

I used to post some Bela Fleck just for a change...or some Sam Bush

82 Olsonist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:14:16pm

re: #79 keloyd

I'm in favor of term limits for television as well. Rome was unbelievably awesome. So I'm glad that it didn't sink to just sucking. Two seasons. Two unbelievable seasons.

[In the interests of full disclosure, I have to admit I was forced to watch Rome by my brother. He ... was ... right. Damn that hurt.]

83 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:14:17pm

In my opinion there are very few experiences as enjoyable as seeing a favourite musical artist perform live in a venue with good acoustics.
The memories of the really good ones can last a lifetime and their value cannot be measured in money.

84 albusteve  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:15:16pm

re: #83 Spare O'Lake

In my opinion there are very few experiences as enjoyable as seeing a favourite musical artist perform live in a venue with good acoustics.
The memories of the really good ones can last a lifetime and their value cannot be measured in money.

live, small venue....the only way to do it, period

85 Cato the Elder  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:15:31pm

re: #76 Walter L. Newton

Alert... reminder... tonight... and new episode of LOST... "The Substitute."

Walter, is there a way to catch up on "Lost" so a newbie can enjoy a new episode? Or is it only for initiates?

86 The Left  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:16:37pm

re: #82 Olsonist

I'm in favor of term limits for television as well. Rome was unbelievably awesome. So I'm glad that it didn't sink to just sucking. Two seasons. Two unbelievable seasons.

[In the interests of full disclosure, I have to admit I was forced to watch Rome by my brother. He ... was ... right. Damn that hurt.]

I LOVED Rome. Loved it.
The UK has a lot of crap TV, but when they're good they're very good, and I think it's partly because a 'season' there is only about six episodes long. Term limits for TV!

87 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:16:47pm

re: #85 Cato the Elder

Walter, is there a way to catch up on "Lost" so a newbie can enjoy a new episode? Or is it only for initiates?

Do you mean someone who has never watch the show?

88 Charles Johnson  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:18:40pm

I didn't watch "The Sopranos" when it was originally broadcast - I downloaded the whole thing and watched it in sequence over several weeks. (Took a while.)

It was definitely one of the greatest story lines ever put on film, great characters, unexpected developments, and more than a few moments that made you sit up go ... whoa.

Lost has a long way to go to reach that kind of plateau.

89 prairiefire  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:19:42pm

This old place has seen a lot of music. The Kinks, Grateful Dead, Tom Petty, on and on. I really regret not seeing U2 there at one of their first shows in town. Bono climbed up the side of the stage somehow and held onto the flagpole before dropping down, I think into the crowd. [Link: memorialhallkc.com...]

90 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:19:53pm

re: #85 Cato the Elder

Walter, is there a way to catch up on "Lost" so a newbie can enjoy a new episode? Or is it only for initiates?

Go here... watch the video "LOST: The Final Chapter" which is a recap of the first five seasons, and then watch the first three (or including tonight) for episode of this season on line... and then you will be caught up for next weeks new episode.

[Link: abc.go.com...]

91 albusteve  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:19:58pm

I watched a couple of Rome shows...pretty awful, but I liked the sex and ancient pornographic graffiti...I don't really count tho...TV is just not my thing

92 Obdicut  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:20:15pm

re: #88 Charles

The Pine Barrens episodes is one of my all-time favorites.

93 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:20:45pm

re: #88 Charles

The Sopranos had the perfect ending. Just black.

94 reine.de.tout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:20:53pm

re: #75 Rightwingconspirator

Your Lolcat RDT!
[Link: icanhascheezburger.com...]

GOT IT!
Thanks, I loved it!

I'm about to post it to my FB account; all my La. FB buddies are on and they'll get kick out of it.

The King of Rex this year (the premier krewe) grew up in the same town I did we were in HS briefly together (one year). For those not from here, being Rex is a really big deal.

95 albusteve  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:20:57pm

I should try the Sopranos...I love mobsters

96 harry91  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:22:36pm

If you like cake...Half Life Fans will get a kick

97 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:22:44pm

re: #88 Charles

I didn't watch "The Sopranos" when it was originally broadcast - I downloaded the whole thing and watched it in sequence over several weeks. (Took a while.)

It was definitely one of the greatest story lines ever put on film, great characters, unexpected developments, and more than a few moments that made you sit up go ... whoa.

Lost has a long way to go to reach that kind of plateau.

I agree, even though I never watched a single episode of Sopranos. Because Sopranos was a "reality styled mod drama" and LOST is science fiction. I would hope that they would not be comparable.

It's apples and oranges.

98 prairiefire  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:24:06pm

re: #92 Obdicut

The Pine Barrens episodes is one of my all-time favorites.

Love that one, very memorable. I think it was directed by Steve Buscemi. People were asking David Chase for years, "when will the Russians show up?"

99 Digital Display  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:25:25pm

re: #84 albusteve

live, small venue...the only way to do it, period

Great America Music Hall in SF was the bomb in the day...But seeing the Who at the Cow Palace was pretty cool..They weren't playing the corner pub..
NorCal is a great music scene..We had so many musicians come up from the Bay Area to play in Napa..In fact in the late 70's Napa had free concerts in the park to draw more tourist..You got to see everybody play.
It was great..Then one Sunday there was the infamous Garcia gang shooting in the park.. It Horrified Napa..There has never been a free concert since except out at the wineries...
It was weeks of Headlines..Shocked Citizens..Horrified City officials..
Bylines..Who are the Garcias? The gang scenes in Napa...
It went on for weeks...

100 Olsonist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:26:52pm

re: #86 iceweasel

I LOVED Rome. Loved it.
The UK has a lot of crap TV, but when they're good they're very good, and I think it's partly because a 'season' there is only about six episodes long. Term limits for TV!

I'm generally in favor of term limits as an organizing principle for life. Biologically, it already is. Term limits for newscasters and op/ed writers. Term limits for relationships. Term limits for actors (actresses don't seem to need these).

Honestly, I don't want to see Harrison Ford, Woody Allen, ... any more. I like Gary Busey. I thought he was brilliant in Point Break and Big Wednesday. I don't need to see another Gary Busey movie. I'm tired of seeing people mail it in because someone's sending them a check. Tired of it.

101 Unakite  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:29:03pm
102 Olsonist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:30:08pm

re: #101 Unakite

Fog has declined in past century along California's redwood coast

I remember tule fog when I lived in San Jose. I haven't seen fog like that in decades.

103 Unakite  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:32:41pm

re: #102 Olsonist

I remember tule fog when I lived in San Jose. I haven't seen fog like that in decades.

Must plead ignorance re tule fog. I'm from the east coast.

104 Digital Display  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:34:21pm

re: #88 Charles

I didn't watch "The Sopranos" when it was originally broadcast - I downloaded the whole thing and watched it in sequence over several weeks. (Took a while.)

It was definitely one of the greatest story lines ever put on film, great characters, unexpected developments, and more than a few moments that made you sit up go ... whoa.

Lost has a long way to go to reach that kind of plateau.

The Gold standard of TV series..
There may never be another series reach that peak of genius..
99% of all series develop a few popular characters over a period of time...
But no...The Soprano's brought us hundreds of interesting characters and we got to connect with all of them...The writing was brilliant and most importantly.. It rang true...4 star

105 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:36:31pm

re: #82 Olsonist

I'm in favor of term limits for television as well. Rome was unbelievably awesome. So I'm glad that it didn't sink to just sucking. Two seasons. Two unbelievable seasons.

[In the interests of full disclosure, I have to admit I was forced to watch Rome by my brother. He ... was ... right. Damn that hurt.]

My husband didn't want to watch Rome. Then he came in briefly to ask me about dinner. Then he sat down...then it was all over.

106 Aye Pod  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:36:59pm

Gary Bird & The G B Experience : 'The Crown':re: #88 Charles

I didn't watch "The Sopranos" when it was originally broadcast - I downloaded the whole thing and watched it in sequence over several weeks. (Took a while.)

It was definitely one of the greatest story lines ever put on film, great characters, unexpected developments, and more than a few moments that made you sit up go ... whoa.

Lost has a long way to go to reach that kind of plateau.

One thing - hearing people talk about the Sopranos always intrigued me - listening to people talk about 'Lost' - I usually find myself getting annoyed. I might give it a try though, when I get to New York, which will hopefully be very soon.

107 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:37:27pm

re: #86 iceweasel

I LOVED Rome. Loved it.
The UK has a lot of crap TV, but when they're good they're very good, and I think it's partly because a 'season' there is only about six episodes long. Term limits for TV!

I really like "Coupling". And, well, "Torchwood".

I have to confess to an awful fondness as well for "Keeping Up Appearances".

108 Aye Pod  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:37:44pm

Gary Bird & The G B Experience : 'The Crown'

109 Olsonist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:38:23pm

Tule fog is really thick. You can't see 3 feet. Unbelievably people still drive in it like wildebeasts migrating in front of lions; the urge to commute is unstoppable.

110 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:39:38pm

re: #103 Unakite

Must plead ignorance re tule fog. I'm from the east coast.

Tule fog cloaks the tule elk, so that when they step in front of your car, they come as a complete surprise, and cause an accident.

Basically, it's a really dense ground fog.

111 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:40:34pm

re: #106 Jimmah

Gary Bird & The G B Experience : 'The Crown':

One thing - hearing people talk about the Sopranos always intrigued me - listening to people talk about 'Lost' - I usually find myself getting annoyed. I might give it a try though, when I get to New York, which will hopefully be very soon.

I watched it when it first came out, and enjoyed it a lot. Lost, that is. Around the second season I got bored and cranky. Too many characters, too much going on, no narrative thrust.

112 prairiefire  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:41:10pm

re: #111 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh, now you're going to get Walter started....

113 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:41:37pm

re: #112 prairiefire

Oh, now you're going to get Walter started...

Sorry. Maybe I'll give it another try one of these days, but it wasn't my thing.

114 Aye Pod  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:41:57pm

re: #107 SanFranciscoZionist

I really like "Coupling". And, well, "Torchwood".

I have to confess to an awful fondness as well for "Keeping Up Appearances".

You should check out "One Foot in the Grave", "Spaced", "Black Books" and "The League of Gentlemen" if you haven't already.

115 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:42:44pm

re: #112 prairiefire

Oh, now you're going to get Walter started...

re: #113 SanFranciscoZionist

Sorry. Maybe I'll give it another try one of these days, but it wasn't my thing.

No... I'm not going to get started... to close to this weeks episode :)

116 Digital Display  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:43:34pm

re: #106 Jimmah

Gary Bird & The G B Experience : 'The Crown':

One thing - hearing people talk about the Sopranos always intrigued me - listening to people talk about 'Lost' - I usually find myself getting annoyed. I might give it a try though, when I get to New York, which will hopefully be very soon.

New York is a hop skip and a jump away..Freq. Flyer milage. Maybe in Springtime I fly in for the weekend and visit...
Hell Anytime you can shop in NY without paying 450 bucks a night for a hotel works for me...
*wink*

117 reine.de.tout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:43:49pm

re: #77 Cato the Elder

No - the best thing since sliced bread is GPS. Saved my bacon twice the first day I owned it.

I'm just waiting for the Bob Dylan celebrity guide voice to come out.

"Mannn, if you don't turn here, you're gonna end up on Highway 61 with a thousand telephones that don't ring."

I like my GPS, but it has not always given me correct directions (and I do keep my maps updated).

118 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:44:00pm

re: #114 Jimmah

You should check out "One Foot in the Grave", "Spaced", "Black Books" and "The League of Gentlemen" if you haven't already.

BTW, anyone here a fan of "Six Feet Under"?

119 prairiefire  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:45:05pm

re: #118 SanFranciscoZionist

Yep, the first couple of seasons.

120 The Left  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:45:19pm

re: #107 SanFranciscoZionist

I really like "Coupling". And, well, "Torchwood".

I have to confess to an awful fondness as well for "Keeping Up Appearances".

Peep Show is terrific! I think it's on youtube now too.

121 Unakite  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:45:19pm

re: #109 Olsonist

Tule fog is really thick. You can't see 3 feet. Unbelievably people still drive in it like wildebeasts migrating in front of lions; the urge to commute is unstoppable.

re: #110 SanFranciscoZionist

Tule fog cloaks the tule elk, so that when they step in front of your car, they come as a complete surprise, and cause an accident.

Basically, it's a really dense ground fog.

Thanks to both of you. Love to learn new things (ran into a deer a long time ago on the Blue Ridge Parkway in the fog, but don't want to hit an elk).

122 reine.de.tout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:45:57pm

re: #107 SanFranciscoZionist

I really like "Coupling". And, well, "Torchwood".

I have to confess to an awful fondness as well for "Keeping Up Appearances".

I have enjoyed Keeping Up Appearances.
I've also really enjoyed one called "The Vicar of Dibley" - there are only six or eight or so episodes. Way too few, imo.

And a really long-running one called "Last of the Summer Wine". When my daughter was young, first grade or so, we would lie in bed on Sat evenings and watch that show - she loved it. I loved just being with her.

123 Olsonist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:45:58pm

re: #105 SanFranciscoZionist

My husband didn't want to watch Rome. Then he came in briefly to ask me about dinner. Then he sat down...then it was all over.

The thing I like about Rome is that more you know about Roman history the better it is. It takes liberties here and there, and you can spot them. But I don't think that Trevor Murphy, my Roman Civ prof at Cal, would be sniffing at Rome. FWIW, I watched Troy with the Classics faculty when I was there. They enjoyed it for its retelling; a godless Iliad.

124 Aye Pod  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:46:02pm

re: #116 HoosierHoops

New York is a hop skip and a jump away..Freq. Flyer milage. Maybe in Springtime I fly in for the weekend and visit...
Hell Anytime you can shop in NY without paying 450 bucks a night for a hotel works for me...
*wink*

Just have to tie up some documentation over here Hoops, then I'll be on my way :) Hoping it won't be long at all now.

125 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:46:47pm

re: #110 SanFranciscoZionist

I saw it frozen tule (tulee?) fog once, January 09. It is deadly thick. The temperature was high 20's, 6 am in the morning, driving to the Shafter California Police department to put on a seminar. Anyway, we were using Dragon_Lady's point and shoot digital camera as a HUD, so I could see to creep along safely. For some reason the camera could see much further into the fog. Weirdest thing.

126 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:47:00pm

re: #119 prairiefire

Yep, the first couple of seasons.

I know... not really much of a well liked show...

Lost is an American drama series that has aired on ABC since September 22, 2004. It has been nominated for a variety of different awards including 41 Primetime Emmy Awards (nine wins for the series, one for online content), 21 Teen Choice Awards, 39 Saturn Awards (ten wins), 11 Golden Reel Awards (five wins), eight Satellite Awards (one win), six Golden Globe Awards (one win), four Writers Guild of America Awards (one win), three Directors Guild of America Awards, two NAACP Image Awards (one win), two Screen Actors Guild Awards (one win), a BAFTA Award and a Peabody Award. Amongst the wins for the series are a Primetime Emmy Award for "Outstanding Drama Series", a Golden Globe Award for "Best Television Series – Drama" and a Screen Actors Guild Award for "Outstanding Performance by an Ensemble in a Drama Series".

Just a bunch of industry people patting themselves on the back. :)

127 The Left  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:47:12pm

re: #116 HoosierHoops

New York is a hop skip and a jump away..Freq. Flyer milage. Maybe in Springtime I fly in for the weekend and visit...
Hell Anytime you can shop in NY without paying 450 bucks a night for a hotel works for me...
*wink*

Heck, Hoops, I can set you up with some excellent places to stay that are pretty damned cheap. I'll email you. :)

128 Aye Pod  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:47:31pm

re: #118 SanFranciscoZionist

BTW, anyone here a fan of "Six Feet Under"?

Watched a couple of episodes - I enjoyed it but didn't manage to keep following it.

129 Olsonist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:48:01pm

re: #121 Unakite

You probably have a local variation. When I lived in Italy, they had something similar in the Po Valley. It was thick and patchy which made things even more unnerving.

130 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:48:04pm

A couple more for the hippies:

131 avanti  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:48:39pm

re: #117 reine.de.tout

I like my GPS, but it has not always given me correct directions (and I do keep my maps updated).

I learned to set it to "Ignore ferries" after talking a 1 hour, 17 mile trip across the Chesapeake Bay on a ferry on the way home from Atlantic City. It was technically the shortest rout distance wise.

132 The Left  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:49:24pm

re: #123 Olsonist

The thing I like about Rome is that more you know about Roman history the better it is. It takes liberties here and there, and you can spot them.

Agreed.
I liked their take on Octavian, btw. Possibly a liberty-- who knows?-- but it was a pretty cool liberty to take. This very cold Aspergers-ish almost kid with a certain kind of genius.
Augustus had many loyal and lifelong friends though, so it probably wasn't accurate, but it worked so well.

133 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:49:51pm

re: #123 Olsonist

The thing I like about Rome is that more you know about Roman history the better it is. It takes liberties here and there, and you can spot them. But I don't think that Trevor Murphy, my Roman Civ prof at Cal, would be sniffing at Rome. FWIW, I watched Troy with the Classics faculty when I was there. They enjoyed it for its retelling; a godless Iliad.

I didn't care for Troy much. Just didn't look right, smell right.

134 The Left  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:50:55pm

re: #118 SanFranciscoZionist

BTW, anyone here a fan of "Six Feet Under"?

Yes, but it eventually wore on me a bit. I liked that Susie Bright had a guest spot, lol.
The Claire character started to annoy me, eventually.

135 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:51:11pm

re: #132 iceweasel

Agreed.
I liked their take on Octavian, btw. Possibly a liberty-- who knows?-- but it was a pretty cool liberty to take. This very cold Aspergers-ish almost kid with a certain kind of genius.
Augustus had many loyal and lifelong friends though, so it probably wasn't accurate, but it worked so well.

Perhaps he warmed up to people after getting away from his mother. That family might drive anyone a little around the bend.

136 Digital Display  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:51:16pm

re: #127 iceweasel

Heck, Hoops, I can set you up with some excellent places to stay that are pretty damned cheap. I'll email you. :)

Once Jimmah gets into town I'll drop in for the weekend...Burn some Amex miles...You know we'll have a great weekend.. I want to drive a rental to ground zero..I want to visit there before I leave the country....
Regards

137 Bagua  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:51:18pm

re: #126 Walter L. Newton

I have 10 more minutes to go, and very confused as I missed last weeks episode.

138 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:51:40pm

re: #118 SanFranciscoZionist

BTW, anyone here a fan of "Six Feet Under"?

I am. It had its annoying moments but it held its own consistently. You actually cared about the main characters and it actually portrayed a gay relationship in believable fashion.

139 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:51:57pm

re: #137 Bagua

I have 10 more minutes to go, and very confused as I missed last weeks episode.

You want me to give you a quick catch up?

140 Bagua  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:53:02pm

Tech note:

If you are not familiar with TV and use the online TV-Guide, don't forget to set the damn time zone! (As if there weren't enough confusing time issues on Lost.)

141 soap_man  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:53:41pm

re: #38 Charles

I'm currently downloading the first two seasons of "Lost," because Richard Metzger talked me into giving it a try. It was compared to "The Sopranos" in terms of quality; but we'll just see about that, won't we?

When Lost first came out I watched an episode, but didn't get into it. Maybe watching in sequence will change the experience.

I'm late to the game here (since I'm watching Lost and there is a commercial) but I recommend it. Not the best show ever, but very clever and interesting.

Watching one episode won't work. My girlfriend did that and was, well, lost. Bah-dum-bum.

Anyway, if you are going to watch it, you have to start at episode one and go in order. No other way. But I think you'll like it.

142 Olsonist  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:53:44pm

re: #133 SanFranciscoZionist

That's ok. This isn't dinner and I haven't had a couple of glasses of wine when I'd be screeching at you like a harpy. But I will say that I thought Pitt absolutely nailed Achilles. I still haven't seen a decent Odyssey.

143 Bagua  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:53:56pm

re: #139 Walter L. Newton

You want me to give you a quick catch up?

Heaven forbid, I'll watch it next on teh intertoobs.

BBL

144 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:54:33pm

re: #143 Bagua

Heaven forbid, I'll watch it next on teh intertoobs.

BBL

Me too! Off to watch LOST.

145 The Left  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:54:35pm

Have to say I am a huge fan of the "TV show on DVD" concept. I don't have cable and I can't organise my life around remembering to be home one night a week at a certain time or whatever, or even recording stuff, but I love discovering some show and having a little binge of watching it on DVD. (Only in my case it's usually torrented.)

146 prairiefire  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:56:35pm

re: #122 reine.de.tout
Hi, Reine, I think there have been more episodes and specials since then. Dawn French is very talented. My daughter and I like to cuddle up and watch "Castle".
[Link: www.amazon.com...]

147 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:58:56pm

re: #143 Bagua

re: #143 Bagua

Enjoy, you guys.

148 reine.de.tout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:59:21pm

re: #146 prairiefire

Hi, Reine, I think there have been more episodes and specials since then. Dawn French is very talented. My daughter and I like to cuddle up and watch "Castle".
[Link: www.amazon.com...]

Thanks!
I just bought the whole series.
I laughed until I had tears at each and every episode of that show, and also at the episodes of Absolutely Fabulous that I saw.

149 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:59:35pm
150 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:59:41pm

re: #145 iceweasel
Yes! DVD rules.
THE way to see a series is in one good day or two. Superior continuity, no commercials, and whatever you want for food drink and company. Intermissions as you like etc.

151 Unakite  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 6:59:57pm

re: #129 Olsonist

You probably have a local variation. When I lived in Italy, they had something similar in the Po Valley. It was thick and patchy which made things even more unnerving.

Actually, yes we do. Just wasn't familiar with the term. We live close to the Chesapeake bay and get thick, patchy fogs along and near the tributary rivers, which sounds similar to what you are describing. You can be in a thick fog, then drive out, then drive back in again. In CA though, looks like it can be a big, thick blanket, which is a little different.

152 soap_man  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:00:44pm

re: #144 Walter L. Newton

Me too! Off to watch LOST.

Oh, time zones. Just finished watching...

153 Aye Pod  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:01:21pm

re: #86 iceweasel

I LOVED Rome. Loved it.
The UK has a lot of crap TV, but when they're good they're very good, and I think it's partly because a 'season' there is only about six episodes long. Term limits for TV!

Speaking of UK tv and 'Rome' :

This was a very disturbing scene when I first saw it many years ago. I saw it recently while slightly drunk and found it hilarious.

154 soap_man  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:02:12pm

re: #150 Rightwingconspirator

Yes! DVD rules.
THE way to see a series is in one good day or two. Superior continuity, no commercials, and whatever you want for food drink and company. Intermissions as you like etc.

I just started doing that with Dexter. Can't stop watching. It has very quickly become one of my favorite shows.

155 Unakite  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:02:20pm

re: #131 avanti

I learned to set it to "Ignore ferries" after talking a 1 hour, 17 mile trip across the Chesapeake Bay on a ferry on the way home from Atlantic City. It was technically the shortest rout distance wise.

Heh, yeah but they served alcohol to the drivers. Kind of ironic, isn't it. :)

156 The Left  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:03:02pm

re: #150 Rightwingconspirator

Yes! DVD rules.
THE way to see a series is in one good day or two. Superior continuity, no commercials, and whatever you want for food drink and company. Intermissions as you like etc.

It's just so much better in every way. Plus it's a nice way to spend a snowed in or nasty weather weekend. I like having a little Buffy binge every once in a while.

157 Aye Pod  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:03:48pm

re: #156 iceweasel

It's just so much better in every way. Plus it's a nice way to spend a snowed in or nasty weather weekend. I like having a little Buffy binge every once in a while.

I haven't had a Buffy binge for years. Due one I think :)

158 Digital Display  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:04:03pm

re: #145 iceweasel

Have to say I am a huge fan of the "TV show on DVD" concept. I don't have cable and I can't organise my life around remembering to be home one night a week at a certain time or whatever, or even recording stuff, but I love discovering some show and having a little binge of watching it on DVD. (Only in my case it's usually torrented.)

I saw Avatar
I thought it rocked.. But the storyline predictable.. I read somewhere somebody said it isn't a movie it's an event.. I agree...
Fun Movie

159 webevintage  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:04:15pm

re: #38 Charles

I'm currently downloading the first two seasons of "Lost," because Richard Metzger talked me into giving it a try. It was compared to "The Sopranos" in terms of quality; but we'll just see about that, won't we?

When Lost first came out I watched an episode, but didn't get into it. Maybe watching in sequence will change the experience.


Hmmm, I don't know, but then I was never a big Sopranos fan, more of a Deadwood and Rome and The Wire gal.

You can't just pick up LOST in the middle, you really do need to watch from the beginning.
I promise, it's worth it.

And I agree with the rest of you about watching TV on DVDs, I love watching whole seasons in a weekend.

Anyone watching Caprica?

160 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:05:09pm

re: #149 Killgore Trout

Flying lizard in Indonesia (pics)

OMG! ITS WINGS ARE RED!!1 THAT'S PROOF THAT CHUCKLES IS A SEEKRIT COMMIE!!111

/Snork, stalker blogger

161 The Left  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:05:33pm

re: #157 Jimmah

I haven't had a Buffy binge for years. Due one I think :)

I have the boxed sets here when you get here. :)

162 prairiefire  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:05:45pm

re: #148 reine.de.tout

I am Absolutely Fabulous. Of course, incognito as a suburban mom.

163 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:05:46pm

re: #160 Dark_Falcon

Heh.

164 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:06:53pm

re: #156 iceweasel

It's just so much better in every way. Plus it's a nice way to spend a snowed in or nasty weather weekend. I like having a little Buffy binge every once in a while.

At least you get weekends off. I work most weekends. Most of my days off are weekdays. Weekend days are often too good to take off. I've come in on days off if they were a Saturday or Sunday.

165 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:07:11pm

Has anyone here ever grown grapes and made wine? I'm trying to figure out out how many bottles one vine will produce to decide if it's worth the effort. Google search turns up too much conflicting information.

166 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:08:10pm

re: #158 HoosierHoops

I saw Avatar
I thought it rocked.. But the storyline predictable.. I read somewhere somebody said it isn't a movie it's an event.. I agree...
Fun Movie

I've said it before and I'll say it again. It's the best looking bad movie I've ever seen.

Since this is a music thread - The Vatican's list of top ten rock albums:

[Link: undercover.com.au...]

167 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:08:47pm

re: #156 iceweasel
Just the thing when you get screwed by the weather.

168 soap_man  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:09:02pm

re: #165 Killgore Trout

Has anyone here ever grown grapes and made wine? I'm trying to figure out out how many bottles one vine will produce to decide if it's worth the effort. Google search turns up too much conflicting information.

My dad did that (also made grape juice for us when we were kids.) I don't know the specifics, but it seemed very, very time consuming and required a lot of work.

169 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:10:19pm

re: #159 webevintage

You can't just pick up LOST in the middle, you really do need to watch from the beginning.

Indeed. Not a show for the casual viewer.

Now I just need to avoid Walter's comments on the topic. His keen insights about the show gets the gears cranking in my head which invariably make connections that end up being spoilers.

170 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:11:48pm

re: #165 Killgore Trout

Check this out... But seriously you should source your fruit first and grow your own grapes later. Until you try varietals how will you know the grape to plant, let alone the clone for your soil...

171 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:12:18pm

re: #170 Rightwingconspirator

Check this out... But seriously you should source your fruit first and grow your own grapes later. Until you try varietals how will you know the grape to plant, let alone the clone for your soil...

PIMF
LINK

172 The Left  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:13:39pm

re: #153 Jimmah

Speaking of UK tv and 'Rome' :


[Video]This was a very disturbing scene when I first saw it many years ago. I saw it recently while slightly drunk and found it hilarious.

Ha! We have to have an I Claudius binge as well. That scene wasn't so disturbing for me because i'd already read Suetonius and the Graves novel the TV series is based on-- both follow Suetonius pretty damn closely.
I can't remember but the whole I Claudius series might still be on the laptop I left with you. :)

173 soap_man  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:13:51pm

re: #169 Slumbering Behemoth

Indeed. Not a show for the casual viewer.

Now I just need to avoid Walter's comments on the topic. His keen insights about the show gets the gears cranking in my head which invariably make connections that end up being spoilers.

That's part of the fun, eh?

174 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:13:51pm

re: #165 Killgore Trout

Has anyone here ever grown grapes and made wine? I'm trying to figure out out how many bottles one vine will produce to decide if it's worth the effort. Google search turns up too much conflicting information.

Doesn't matter. Just grow a few vines, and stomp the grapes with your bare feet. Film that, put it on a pay-per-view website, and you'll make a tidy sum from a niche pr0n market.

175 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:14:46pm

re: #170 Rightwingconspirator

Check this out... But seriously you should source your fruit first and grow your own grapes later. Until you try varietals how will you know the grape to plant, let alone the clone for your soil...

I figure a good nursery should have advice on which grapes will grow in my area. Pinot Noir seems to be the grape of choice around here in Oregon. I can figure out the process but I'm wondering if it's worth the effort and garden space.

176 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:15:43pm

re: #165 Killgore Trout

Never tried it, and I don't think I could ever grow the right kind of grapes to make great wine. And great grapes come from the right kind of soil.

The John Cleese documentary Wine for the Confused explains it some. I think you can watch online on Netflix.

177 The Left  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:15:46pm

re: #164 Dark_Falcon

At least you get weekends off. I work most weekends. Most of my days off are weekdays. Weekend days are often too good to take off. I've come in on days off if they were a Saturday or Sunday.

Sometimes I have work on the weekends. It can be nice to have the weekdays off though, for errands and such. Always hated food shopping on the weekends. Less of an issue here in the land of the 24 hour supermarket, but still.

178 Aye Pod  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:16:30pm

re: #161 iceweasel

I have the boxed sets here when you get here. :)

W00t! :)

179 reine.de.tout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:16:50pm

re: #171 Rightwingconspirator

RWC - my buds are liking the Marty Graw LOLcat!

180 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:17:27pm

re: #171 Rightwingconspirator

PIMF
LINK

Yeah, but that link contradicts itself....

Grape clusters in bottle—4-5
Clusters on a vine—40
Bottles per vine—4-6

Their math doesn't make sense. Is it 10 bottles per vine or 4?

181 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:17:38pm

re: #174 Slumbering Behemoth

Doesn't matter. Just grow a few vines, and stomp the grapes with your bare feet. Film that, put it on a pay-per-view website, and you'll make a tidy sum from a niche pr0n market.

You might be joking, but read this interview:

[Link: www.avclub.com...]

182 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:20:35pm

Wine Facts, Statistics and Trivia

But wait! How much wine can you get from one vine?

* 40 clusters / vine
* 10 bottles / vine
* 1 barrel / 30 vines

Ok, I think it's supposed to be 10 bottles per vine. I think that makes it worth the effort. At roughly $10 a bottle at the store investing in a couple vines could add up to some savings.

183 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:20:42pm

re: #173 soap_man

That's part of the fun, eh?

Not really. Walter's got such a handle on the show that I'd swear he was connected to it somehow. There has been a couple of times where I have read some of his comments on the subject, got to thinking about it and connecting some ideas floating about in my own head, only to see a part of the show that should have been a "surprise" end up being a "Damn it Walter, why did I read your comment".

184 soap_man  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:20:47pm

re: #164 Dark_Falcon

At least you get weekends off. I work most weekends. Most of my days off are weekdays. Weekend days are often too good to take off. I've come in on days off if they were a Saturday or Sunday.

Hey DF. Thought I would give a local politics update. As of an hour ago, Brady (the far-righter) is up on Dillard (the moderate) by about 400 votes. Dillard said today that he will only demand a recount if he is within 100 votes after absentee and provisional ballots are counted. His chances are slim, but they are there...

185 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:21:46pm

re: #180 Killgore Trout

From what I remember from wine class (never made it myself) its the low end 4 or 5. But its a big range as to size of grape etc.Lets back up what do you want to make? Pinot Noir?

186 Digital Display  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:22:18pm

re: #160 Dark_Falcon

OMG! ITS WINGS ARE RED!!1 THAT'S PROOF THAT CHUCKLES IS A SEEKRIT COMMIE!!111

/Snork, stalker blogger

They were pretty hard on me today...
I went to go see what was said about Walters piece and I was really trashed...
I felt like I was at Dean Martin's Roast outside the 4th gate of Hell...
/With Don Rickels on Deck

187 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:23:10pm

I'm going to make a bunch of Perry next year too. I could potentially take care of all my own booze requirements.

188 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:24:13pm

re: #185 Rightwingconspirator

Just some sort of red. Pinot Noir, Merlot, whatever. I couldn't taste the difference anyways.

189 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:25:18pm

re: #181 Mad Al-Jaffee

You might be joking, but read this interview:

[Link: www.avclub.com...]

Only half joking... Rule 34.

I wonder if there is an internet rule which states "No matter what it is you're looking at, now matter how innocent it may be, someone, somewhere, is masturbating to it".

190 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:26:22pm

re: #188 Killgore Trout

Just some sort of red. Pinot Noir, Merlot, whatever. I couldn't taste the difference anyways.

You could always try to make prison wine.

191 Aye Pod  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:27:03pm

re: #166 Mad Al-Jaffee

Since this is a music thread - The Vatican's list of top ten rock albums:

Not seeing any 'Carcass' in there...

'Keep on Rotting in the Free World'

192 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:27:33pm

re: #184 soap_man

Hey DF. Thought I would give a local politics update. As of an hour ago, Brady (the far-righter) is up on Dillard (the moderate) by about 400 votes. Dillard said today that he will only demand a recount if he is within 100 votes after absentee and provisional ballots are counted. His chances are slim, but they are there...

Do you really think that Brady is far-right, or is he just more conservative than our state really wants?

193 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:27:56pm

re: #188 Killgore Trout

What is your climate and soil? Not to mess with your anonymity but I can taste Columbia river valley from Willamette. Columbia is colder so it matters.

194 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:27:57pm

re: #187 Killgore Trout

I'm going to make a bunch of Perry next year too. I could potentially take care of all my own booze requirements.

Pull that off, and you will be my new freaking hero! I only ask that you write a book or a blog about it.

195 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:28:07pm

re: #191 Jimmah

Not seeing any 'Carcass' in there...

'Keep on Rotting in the Free World'


[Video]

And what's up with excluding AC/DC's Highway to Hell?!

196 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:28:56pm

re: #190 Mad Al-Jaffee

Pruno? Orange juice and sugar. Oh and a trash bag.

197 The Left  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:30:16pm

re: #190 Mad Al-Jaffee

You could always try to make prison wine.

Oh god. Have people seen the Stevie Don't Eat It blog?

One of his 'experiments' was making prison wine.

I gave serious thought to whether the straining sock should be clean or not. I came to the conclusion that it shouldn't. In the spirit of Steve, Don't Eat It, I need to take it to the extreme! Plus, I was already wearing dirty socks and my clean ones were in the bedroom, like 20 feet away.


He made both red and white wine. heh.

198 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:31:58pm

re: #197 iceweasel

He made both red and white wine. heh.

I was going to post that link but I accidently left it out.

199 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:31:59pm

re: #188 Killgore Trout

You can get clones of each varietal tweaked for your soil-sandy, clay, hillside, flatland.

200 SteveC  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:32:44pm

Good evening everyone!

201 soap_man  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:33:48pm

re: #192 Dark_Falcon

Do you really think that Brady is far-right, or is he just more conservative than our state really wants?

He is opposed to abortion in rape and incest, even in cases where the mother's health is at risk. He thinks abortions should only be illegal if the mom is 100 percent going to die without it.

He also voted against a law that would have made discrimination based on sexuality illegal.

Those two things combined makes in far-right in my book. (Not to the point of wingnut, but still far right.) But your point is noted. Most conservatives I know (and myself) are pretty moderate, so my perspective might be skewed...

202 The Left  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:36:19pm

re: #201 soap_man

He is opposed to abortion in rape and incest, even in cases where the mother's health is at risk. He thinks abortions should only be illegal if the mom is 100 percent going to die without it.

He also voted against a law that would have made discrimination based on sexuality illegal.

Those two things combined makes in far-right in my book. (Not to the point of wingnut, but still far right.) But your point is noted. Most conservatives I know (and myself) are pretty moderate, so my perspective might be skewed...

Anyone who would force a 12 year old girl impregnated by her father, or the victim of any other rape, that she 'has' to continue the pregnancy counts as a wingnut in my book. Fullstop.

203 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:36:40pm

re: #201 soap_man

He is opposed to abortion in rape and incest, even in cases where the mother's health is at risk. He thinks abortions should only be illegal if the mom is 100 percent going to die without it.

He also voted against a law that would have made discrimination based on sexuality illegal.

Those two things combined makes in far-right in my book. (Not to the point of wingnut, but still far right.) But your point is noted. Most conservatives I know (and myself) are pretty moderate, so my perspective might be skewed...

Your perspective isn't skewed in my eyes. Opposing abortion in rape or incest cases is a step too far in my eyes. Nor do I tend to favor candidates who think its OK to not hire someone because they're gay. I'll still vote for Brady (because he would be better than Pat Quinn) but I'm not happy about it.

204 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:37:43pm

re: #193 Rightwingconspirator

I'm in Portland. summers here get pretty hot and dry, I'm planting on a se exposure so they'll get a little relief from the afternoon heat from about 5pm on. Soil is sandy clay and pretty poor but theyll be planted around my veg garden so they'll get some residual water and compost from being in the area.

205 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:37:46pm

re: #188 Killgore Trout

I saw an "interest spot" on some show (maybe Huell Howser's?) about a winery that could not afford the refrigeration units needed to cool picked grapes before the pressing. Their solution was to hand pick the grapes at night, during full moons.

I can't find an adequate link for that matches that story, though.

206 Digital Display  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:38:11pm

re: #199 Rightwingconspirator

You can get clones of each varietal tweaked for your soil-sandy, clay, hillside, flatland.

You know in Napa at tastings when they clasp the stem by the thumb and fore finger and slowly twirl the wine? Observe the clarity..Smell the bouquet?
Taste the complex flavors of mother earth?
Then they spit it out?
I say make em drink the wine. no spitting.. I want to see trashed judges picking the best wine at the end of the night..That and some scandal that involves a French Judge and Pamela Anderson....
Jeez..These people are so up tight with wine

207 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:38:35pm

re: #194 Slumbering Behemoth

Heh. Don't hold your breath. It might take a couple years to get the operation up and running at full speed.

208 soap_man  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:42:01pm

Gotta run. GF just called. Her dad is sick.

Have a safe evening everyone.

209 albusteve  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:42:01pm

re: #196 Rightwingconspirator

Pruno? Orange juice and sugar. Oh and a trash bag.

I'll never forget jailhouse hot chocolate...melt a 3 Muskateers, add water

210 albusteve  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:42:47pm

re: #207 Killgore Trout

Heh. Don't hold your breath. It might take a couple years to get the operation up and running at full speed.

Troutnoir Ltd.

211 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:43:10pm

re: #207 Killgore Trout

Still, I think you should write about the experience. You're a pretty sharp guy with a good sense of humor. I bet something like that would be a hoot to read.

212 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:45:39pm

re: #206 HoosierHoops

I so want to go up there and play on some arrogant sommelier. I mean let him think me some rube and then just blind taste something right down to it's year and area. Then ask whats good. Then call for the pairing. Not to be a jerk, but to get past the BS. If the guy is cool we can get detailed off the top. I have favorite appellation is Napa. Dragon_Lady & I have this thing for Carneros. St Helena not so much.

213 Digital Display  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:49:35pm

re: #212 Rightwingconspirator

I so want to go up there and play on some arrogant sommelier. I mean let him think me some rube and then just blind taste something right down to it's year and area. Then ask whats good. Then call for the pairing. Not to be a jerk, but to get past the BS. If the guy is cool we can get detailed off the top. I have favorite appellation is Napa. Dragon_Lady & I have this thing for Carneros. St Helena not so much.

We lived behind the Safeway Store in St. Helena for about a year...
Napa is home..So that's why I tell so many jokes about the Valley...Reminds me of home

214 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:49:42pm

re: #208 soap_man

Gotta run. GF just called. Her dad is sick.

Have a safe evening everyone.

Good fortune to her, her family and you.

215 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:50:42pm

re: #211 Slumbering Behemoth

I was thinking about starting a gardening/fishing/hunting blog when I moved to the coast but the move fell through. I might do it anyways although it won't be nearly as interesting here in dull old Portland.

216 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 7:54:37pm

re: #215 Killgore Trout

Fell through? What happened?

If you don't mind me asking.

217 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 8:00:28pm

re: #215 Killgore Trout

You might like this...
[Link: www.oregonvineyardland.com...]

218 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 8:03:13pm

re: #216 Slumbering Behemoth

Fell through? What happened?

If you don't mind me asking.

A family situation came up. It worked out OK though. I had enough money left over to pay off my mortgage. I have 32 bucks left in my bank account and an 8th of a tank of gas in the car but I won't have a mortgage payment next month.

219 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 16, 2010 8:03:53pm

re: #217 Rightwingconspirator

Much thanks. Bookmarked.


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