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Imagine my surprise to discover the same stalkers showing up at the BBC who showed up at Dangerous Minds and Boing Boing, spewing the same hate speech: BBC - Blogworld - Best International Blogs: USA: Charles Johnson.

I really do live inside their heads. It’s pretty comfortable there, once you get over the slightly unpleasant smell of obsessive-compulsive disorder. Excuse me while I microwave some popcorn in their temporal lobes.

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444 comments
1 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:16:59pm

"CaptainAmerica" is the misogynistic lunatic who used the name "buzzsawmonkey" at LGF.

2 Digital Display  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:17:53pm

re: #1 Charles

"CaptainAmerica" is the misogynistic lunatic who used the name "buzzsawmonkey" at LGF.

Wow!

3 sattv4u2  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:18:44pm

I really do live inside their heads. It’s pretty comfortable there

Since they've lost their minds I bet it's roomy in there also!

4 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:19:52pm

Charles, I'd like to remind you that it's far easier to sue for libel and slander in the UK than it is here in the US.

5 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:19:53pm

re: #1 Charles

"CaptainAmerica" is the misogynistic lunatic who used the name "buzzsawmonkey" at LGF.

Hah! What a loon.

6 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:20:08pm

re: #1 Charles

"CaptainAmerica" is the misogynistic lunatic who used the name "buzzsawmonkey" at LGF.

How did you figure that out?

7 jamesfirecat  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:20:13pm

"I smell burnt toast!"


That obvious joke aside let me be serious for a moment.

I'm just about to reach Spring Break and this year that means a family trip to Arizona.

I also own a desktop rather than a laptop.

Thus this is probably going to be my last thread till March 21rst, and maybe a bit after that since I'll want to spend some time playing with my Birthday Presents (expecting to get Bioshock 2 and Dawn of War II.)

8 Velvet Elvis  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:21:04pm

I'm sure dedicating a whole thread to flattering their egos will make them go away.

(sorry, couldn't stop myself)

9 sattv4u2  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:21:08pm

btw ,, sorry to go OT so soon, and I'm sure it's been mentioned, but I just wanted to say my prayers are with Senator Reid for the fast recovery of his wife and daughter

10 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:22:16pm

re: #6 Alouette

How did you figure that out?

That would be telling, wouldn't it?

11 jaunte  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:22:24pm
I really do live inside their heads.


Cloud Cuckoo Land computing...

12 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:22:32pm

re: #7 jamesfirecat

Have a Happy Birthday JFC!

13 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:23:00pm

re: #8 Conservative Moonbat

I'm sure dedicating a whole thread to flattering their egos will make them go away.

(sorry, couldn't stop myself)

Well, ignoring them doesn't seem to be working, does it?

14 jamesfirecat  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:23:01pm

re: #12 Stanley Sea

Have a Happy Birthday JFC!

It's not till March 18th but thanks all the same.

15 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:23:47pm

Rippidy do dah!

16 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:23:56pm

re: #9 sattv4u2

btw ,, sorry to go OT so soon, and I'm sure it's been mentioned, but I just wanted to say my prayers are with Senator Reid for the fast recovery of his wife and daughter


For those who missed it;
Senate leader Reid's family hurt in car wreck

Washington (CNN) -- The wife and daughter of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid were injured Thursday in a highway accident, a spokesman for the Democratic senator from Nevada said. The injuries aren't considered life-threatening.
17 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:23:59pm

You know, we haven't had a private thread in a long time.

18 jamesfirecat  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:24:12pm

re: #10 Charles

That would be telling

We want information… information… in formation.


(Charles' original post cropped to make the joke/ reference)

19 Gus  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:24:44pm

re: #1 Charles

"CaptainAmerica" is the misogynistic lunatic who used the name "buzzsawmonkey" at LGF.

A typical day for Buzzsawmonkey.

20 sattv4u2  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:25:23pm

re: #16 Varek Raith

not life threatening injuries, true. But it shoudl be noted that the wife sustained a broken back AND neck

Always dicey

21 jamesfirecat  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:25:35pm

re: #19 Gus 802

A typical day for Buzzsawmonkey.

All Charles and no Jonson makes Charles a dull Jonson!

22 kingkenrod  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:25:44pm

re: #9 sattv4u2

btw ,, sorry to go OT so soon, and I'm sure it's been mentioned, but I just wanted to say my prayers are with Senator Reid for the fast recovery of his wife and daughter

Sounds like they are OK, but even a minor back injury at 59 will have long-lasting consequences, it's most unfortunate.

23 The Left  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:25:56pm

re: #19 Gus 802

A typical day for Buzzsawmonkey.

ha! I think you need to repost your other xkcd mashups in here!

24 Varek Raith  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:26:16pm

re: #20 sattv4u2

not life threatening injuries, true. But it shoudl be noted that the wife sustained a broken back AND neck

Always dicey

Indeed.

25 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:26:52pm

re: #19 Gus 802

A typical day for Buzzsawmonkey.

I have to admit that I did enjoy his song parodies.

26 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:26:53pm

re: #20 sattv4u2

not life threatening injuries, true. But it shoudl be noted that the wife sustained a broken back AND neck

Always dicey

a lifetime injury most likely...bad news, unless they are very minor fracture

27 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:29:25pm

re: #25 Alouette

I have to admit that I did enjoy his song parodies.

bi polar

28 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:29:50pm

re: #4 Obdicut

Charles, I'd like to remind you that it's far easier to sue for libel and slander in the UK than it is here in the US.

You say that like it's a good thing...

29 Gus  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:29:53pm

re: #23 iceweasel

ha! I think you need to repost your other xkcd mashups in here!

Here ya' go:

Image: butthurt.jpg
Image: butthurt2.jpg
Image: butthurt3.jpg
Image: butthurt4.jpg

30 sattv4u2  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:31:49pm

re: #1 Charles

"CaptainAmerica" is the misogynistic lunatic who used the name "buzzsawmonkey" at LGF.

hell ,,, I'm still working on the post above that one

WTF is repoudiated and inconsonant

31 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:32:10pm

re: #7 jamesfirecat

"I smell burnt toast!"

That obvious joke aside let me be serious for a moment.

I'm just about to reach Spring Break and this year that means a family trip to Arizona.

I also own a desktop rather than a laptop.

Thus this is probably going to be my last thread till March 21rst, and maybe a bit after that since I'll want to spend some time playing with my Birthday Presents (expecting to get Bioshock 2 and Dawn of War II.)

Happy travels, then. Remember what we talked about, wilya?

32 The Left  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:32:11pm

re: #25 Alouette

I have to admit that I did enjoy his song parodies.

You wouldn't like his new ones, free from the constraints of moderation here. Misogyny doesn't begin to cover it.

33 Gus  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:33:14pm

Who the heck is that jummy guy?

34 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:33:34pm

Re: one of the comments made by the intelligentsia at the BBC link -

How the shit is "oil tick" a racial epithet? If it is, I've sure never heard of it.

When I think of a "parasite that gets fat off oil", I think most immediately of the polychinned CEO of Exxon-Mobil, and second of the Saudi royal family.

35 sattv4u2  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:33:58pm

re: #33 Gus 802

Who the heck is that jummy guy?

See my #30

With the other things he spelled wrong, maybe Jummy ='s Dummy !!

36 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:34:24pm

re: #33 Gus 802

Who the heck is that jummy guy?

Charles invented 'oil tick'?

37 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:34:31pm

re: #19 Gus 802

A typical day for Buzzsawmonkey.

Molcovich

Youtube Video
38 The Left  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:34:56pm

re: #33 Gus 802

Who the heck is that jummy guy?

A psychotic who has also been spamming the Dangerous Minds posts.

39 jamesfirecat  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:35:24pm

re: #31 The Sanity Inspector

Happy travels, then. Remember what we talked about, wilya?

Which thing in particular, I've talked about a lot of things with a lot of people here.

(At the moment I'm trying to focus on the big particulars, there's a long and complicated (and reasonable) story of why Israel is where it is, Keynesian Economics aren't a given and avoid references to midgets)

40 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:35:26pm

What, exactly, happens when you decide to hang a few pictures?

No, don't answer. I have a feeling I don't really want to know.

41 b_sharp  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:35:27pm

re: #7 jamesfirecat

"I smell burnt toast!"

That obvious joke aside let me be serious for a moment.

I'm just about to reach Spring Break and this year that means a family trip to Arizona.

I also own a desktop rather than a laptop.

Thus this is probably going to be my last thread till March 21rst, and maybe a bit after that since I'll want to spend some time playing with my Birthday Presents (expecting to get Bioshock 2 and Dawn of War II.)

Why didn't you ask for a laptop? Or a netbook?

42 Irenicum  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:36:15pm

Mmmm, microwave popcorn in crazy people's heads. Pop, pop, pop, pop, kaboom!

43 jaunte  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:37:18pm

re: #34 negativ

How the shit is "oil tick" a racial epithet?


The way "Arafish" was anti-marine life.

44 Gus  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:37:27pm

re: #38 iceweasel

A psychotic who has also been spamming the Dangerous Minds posts.

Yeah, I saw that. Now he's trying to raise some eyebrows from the BBC by posting to and old LGF post: BBC Refuses to Delete Antisemitic Lies.

No doubt some strange dude.

45 jamesfirecat  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:38:09pm

re: #41 b_sharp

Why didn't you ask for a laptop? Or a netbook?

I've got really bad hand writing. Bescause of that I've got an alphasmart which is like a laptop but only does word processing that I use for my school work and what not as well as writing stories in my free time.

Thus I saw no real need to get a laptop and instead focused more money (well told my parents to focus spending their money) on getting me an extremely kick ass desktop.

Most of the time it isn't an issue.

46 Kragar  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:38:15pm

re: #43 jaunte

The way "Arafish" was anti-marine life.

The proper term is now "Ara sea kitteh".

47 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:38:52pm

re: #39 jamesfirecat

Which thing in particular, I've talked about a lot of things with a lot of people here.

Oh, just that thing last month about you becoming independently wealthy by age 50. Scrape together 10K this year, put it in an index mutual fund, and don't touch it. Then carry on like normal.

48 Irenicum  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:39:06pm

re: #18 jamesfirecat

I own the old series on DVD. Absolutely brilliant. I am not a number, I am a free man!

49 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:39:10pm

Just for the record: when I used the term "oil tick," it was absolutely intended to refer to the Saudi ruling family.

Definitely NOT Arabs in general.

This is another lie these creeps love to spread.

50 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:41:07pm

re: #36 albusteve

Charles invented 'oil tick'?

Don't THINK so.

51 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:41:30pm

re: #43 jaunte

Perfect!!!

52 sattv4u2  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:41:32pm

re: #49 Charles

Just for the record: when I used the term "oil tick," it was absolutely intended to refer to the Saudi ruling family.

Definitely NOT Arabs in general.

This is another lie these creeps love to spread.

Oh ,,, I thought it's what happens to my right eyebrow whenever I had to fill up the SUV at $3.00 (+) a gallon

53 jamesfirecat  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:42:01pm

re: #47 The Sanity Inspector

Oh, just that thing last month about you becoming independently wealthy by age 50. Scrape together 10K this year, put it in an index mutual fund, and don't touch it. Then carry on like normal.

F***! I had completely forgot about that , (writes sticky note pins it to forehead, then pulls out tatto needle and takes off shirt....)

54 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:43:30pm

And if anyone needs proof, here's the record of LGF posts that contained the term "oil ticks":

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

55 Gus  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:43:31pm

re: #38 iceweasel

A psychotic who has also been spamming the Dangerous Minds posts.

OK, checked again. He has some blog called Wristaction. He's concern trolling while stalking pretending to be a liberal. His blog is in the red zone on wingnut paranoia.

56 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:43:46pm

re: #50 SanFranciscoZionist

Don't THINK so.

Jummy says so....then maybe he meant Charles invented the racial epithet

57 The Left  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:44:33pm

re: #55 Gus 802

OK, checked again. He has some blog called Wristaction. He's concern trolling while stalking pretending to be a liberal. His blog is in the red zone on wingnut paranoia.

One suspects that 'wristaction' is an all too appropriate name. The sound of fapping is deafening.

58 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:44:35pm

re: #49 Charles

I really detest it when a critical insult like that is taken as racial when it is truly on a whole 'nother tack. Simple Solipsism. Their perspective is the only relevant one.

59 Aye Pod  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:44:54pm

re: #55 Gus 802

OK, checked again. He has some blog called Wristaction. He's concern trolling while stalking pretending to be a liberal. His blog is in the red zone on wingnut paranoia.

I thought so.

60 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:45:02pm

re: #49 Charles

Just for the record: when I used the term "oil tick," it was absolutely intended to refer to the Saudi ruling family.

Definitely NOT Arabs in general.

This is another lie these creeps love to spread.

I always call them the caravan-robbing Gang of Saud.

61 Aye Pod  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:45:43pm

re: #57 iceweasel

One suspects that 'wristaction' is an all too appropriate name. The sound of fapping is deafening.

It's an angry, furious fapping too. It's a hate fap.

62 Gus  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:46:48pm

re: #57 iceweasel

One suspects that 'wristaction' is an all too appropriate name. The sound of fapping is deafening.

Probably the only sex he's ever experienced.

63 sattv4u2  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:47:40pm

re: #62 Gus 802

Probably the only sex he's ever experienced.

You say that like it's a bad thing!

((ooopppss ,, did I type that out loud !?!?!)))

64 jamesfirecat  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:48:57pm

re: #63 sattv4u2

You say that like it's a bad thing!

((ooopppss ,, did I type that out loud !?!?!)))

Well as the saying goes sometimes the gene pool needs a lifeguard....

65 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:49:09pm

re: #61 Jimmah

It's an angry, furious fapping too. It's a hate fap.

Caution: Rule 34.

66 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:50:00pm

re: #53 jamesfirecat

F***! I had completely forgot about that , (writes sticky note pins it to forehead, then pulls out tatto needle and takes off shirt...)


Run your particulars with these widgets, when you have time.

67 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:50:06pm

re: #64 jamesfirecat

Did you say Lifeguard?

68 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:50:14pm

re: #57 iceweasel

One suspects that 'wristaction' is an all too appropriate name. The sound of fapping is deafening.

What is "fapping"? Is it safe to Google?

69 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:50:43pm

re: #68 Alouette

Fwapping, mis-spelled?
*waves*

70 The Left  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:50:57pm

re: #68 Alouette

What is "fapping"? Is it safe to Google?

Male masturbation.
(i probably wouldn't google, though!)

71 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:51:30pm

re: #70 iceweasel

Oh.

72 Gus  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:51:50pm

re: #70 iceweasel

Male masturbation.
(i probably wouldn't google, though!)

Auto-snorkeler.

/

73 Aye Pod  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:51:51pm

"whosaidthat" on the BBC page also reads very much like psychotic ex-lizard bs monkey. He also popped up on Metzger's site and has been sending Charles obscene emails for months.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

74 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:51:55pm

re: #71 Alouette

Uh.
Something else I didn't need to know.

75 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:52:08pm

re: #68 Alouette

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

76 jaunte  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:52:39pm

Lower Fapping may have been the birthplace of Gussie Fink-Nottle.

77 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:52:55pm

re: #73 Jimmah

"whosaidthat" on the BBC page also reads very much like psychotic ex-lizard bs monkey. He also popped up on Metzger's site and has been sending Charles obscene emails for months.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

"whosaidthat" and "CaptainAmerica" are probably the same person.

78 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:53:01pm

re: #67 Rightwingconspiratorre: #64 jamesfirecat

Oops link screwup!
Lifeguard?

79 Bagua  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:53:19pm

Out in the street...

They Call It Murder

MP3 Audio

- Ini Kamoze
80 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:53:30pm

re: #76 jaunte

Lower Fapping may have been the birthplace of Gussie Fink-Nottle.

but Long Fap was where he spent his teen years

81 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:53:37pm

re: #73 Jimmah

I'm going back to my flower show.
We look at pretty flowers.
It's sometimes healthy to think about no more than nice, pretty flowers.
Keep up the good work, Charles.
Lizards, enjoy!

82 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:54:03pm

And he's using the name "CaptainAmerica" because I used it as an example in the Dangerous Minds interview.

Obsession.

83 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:54:24pm

re: #76 jaunte

Lower Fapping may have been the birthplace of Gussie Fink-Nottle.

Almost certainly where the Wankel Rotary Engine was first conceived.

84 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:54:27pm

re: #67 Rightwingconspirator

Did you say Lifeguard?

404 page.

85 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:54:28pm

re: #82 Charles

And he's using the name "CaptainAmerica" because I used it as an example in the Dangerous Minds interview.

Obsession.

Illness.

86 jamesfirecat  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:54:41pm

re: #82 Charles

And he's using the name "CaptainAmerica" because I used it as an example in the Dangerous Minds interview.

Obsession.

Look on the bright side, I wonder what else you could get him to name himself?

87 Aye Pod  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:54:49pm

re: #77 Charles

"whosaidthat" and "CaptainAmerica" are probably the same person.

Yep - looks likely.

88 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:54:55pm

re: #81 Floral Giraffe

Thank you for the invitation, by the way -- wish I could make it, but this weekend I have other plans.

89 jaunte  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:55:19pm

re: #83 negativ

Almost certainly where the Wankel Rotary Engine was first conceived.

Hard to wrap ones mind around...

90 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:55:27pm

re: #88 Charles

VERY nice biking weather, too!

91 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:56:41pm

re: #84 The Sanity Inspector

Wow. I have no idea what went wrong. It even previewed. Does Lifeguard conference come up now? Man I got to work on those web skills...
[Link: studio11photography.blogspot.com...]

92 The Left  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:56:46pm

re: #61 Jimmah

It's an angry, furious fapping too. It's a hate fap.

What is the sound of one hand hate-fapping?

--furious one handed typing.

93 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 7:58:47pm

re: #91 Rightwingconspirator

Wow. I have no idea what went wrong. It even previewed. Does Lifeguard conference come up now? Man I got to work on those web skills...
[Link: studio11photography.blogspot.com...]

Yes, it came through the second time. Nice pic!

94 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:00:46pm

The weird thing is that they seem to have no awareness at all that normal people read their crazy rants, with names like "CaptainAmerica," and think they're completely insane. Which they are.

I give interviews about the craziness on the right, and right wing crazies show up raving and foaming like lunatics.

Way to prove my point, stalkers!

95 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:01:14pm

Lord, where we are wrong, make us willing to change; where we are right, make us easy to live with.
-attributed to Peter Marshall

96 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:01:54pm

re: #93 The Sanity Inspector

Thanks. I was so trying to riff on JamesF. For some reason, linking to the full size linked shot is problematic, but not the post. I got real Kung Fu but no code Kung Fu. :(

97 Uninformed Opinion  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:01:59pm

re: #94 Charles

The weird thing is that they seem to have no awareness at all that normal people read their crazy rants, with names like "CaptainAmerica," and think they're completely insane. Which they are.

I give interviews about the craziness on the right, and right wing crazies show up raving and foaming like lunatics.

Way to prove my point, stalkers!

Too many people do not understand the depth of crazy going on.

98 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:02:49pm

re: #70 iceweasel

Male masturbation.

Well, hello there.

99 freetoken  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:05:06pm

re: #81 Floral Giraffe

Speaking of which, the San Diego County Orchid Society's 64th annual show is coming up last weekend of March. Haven't been to one in many years, but they are worth visiting.

100 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:05:15pm

re: #98 goddamnedfrank

Well, hello there.

I am so not clicking on that.

101 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:06:25pm

Evenin' everybody! What's the word?

And because I've missed out on several Glen Beck threads, I must say that
Glen Beck is a soulless panderer.

102 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:07:11pm

re: #99 freetoken

See you there maybe? D_L may show up. "Camera in hand!"

103 The Left  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:07:18pm

re: #98 goddamnedfrank

Well, hello there.

Heh.
(not really related, it just makes me laugh)

104 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:07:28pm

re: #100 Alouette

I am so not clicking on that.

There are an amazing number of euphemisms for that particular activity.

105 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:07:43pm

re: #102 Rightwingconspirator

Uhhh, for the flower shots!

106 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:08:12pm

re: #101 PT Barnum

Okay there ya go. :)

107 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:09:18pm

re: #106 Rightwingconspirator

Okay there ya go. :)

Gotta keep the joke going somehow.....I hope to create my own Internet tradition someday...:D

108 freetoken  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:09:25pm

re: #102 Rightwingconspirator

re: #105 Rightwingconspirator

Heh... whatever you and D_L do with your camera is your business...

I've not been to a SD show in 8 years. However, when in Japan I did go to the big one, the Tokyo orchid show. Wow, now that is a flower show.

109 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:10:05pm

re: #104 PT Barnum

We may have a satire of the "9 billion names of God" there.

110 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:10:13pm

re: #108 freetoken

re: #105 Rightwingconspirator

Heh... whatever you and D_L do with your camera is your business...

I've not been to a SD show in 8 years. However, when in Japan I did go to the big one, the Tokyo orchid show. Wow, now that is a flower show.

flower porn? Rule 34 applies, I'm sure..

111 jaunte  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:10:56pm

re: #110 PT Barnum

Is that a pistil in your pocket?

112 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:10:59pm

re: #109 Rightwingconspirator

We may have a satire of the "9 billion names of God" there.

Great story by Arthur C Clarke....

113 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:11:58pm

re: #111 jaunte

Is that a pistil in your pocket?

someone talked dirty to me and I rose to the occassion..

114 freetoken  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:12:09pm

re: #110 PT Barnum

flower porn? Rule 34 applies, I'm sure..

Well... they are called "orchids" after all...

(Cato can fill you in on the details of the origin of that word.)

115 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:12:15pm

I think it quite likely that there is no such thing as good pornography. If it's good, then it's not pornography.
--Vincent Canby, 1974

Once again the puritan makes the mistake of thinking that to have sex continually on view is an incitement to it. It in fact weakens the feelings and passions that sex can and should arouse. Pornographic literature and movies do not incite us to strenuous emulation. On the contrary, they are substitutes, evidence not of the strength of our sexual feelings, but of their enfeeblement.
--Henry Fairlie, The Seven Deadly Sins Today, 1978

Porno films...encounters are presented with all the charm of open-heart surgery.
--Walter Goodman, 1977

The difference between erotica and pornography is lighting.
-Gloria Leonard

How do I know pornography depraves and corrupts? It depraves and corrupts me.
--Malcolm Muggeridge

116 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:12:26pm

re: #113 PT Barnum

someone talked dirty to me and I rose to the occassion..

But I have lots of stamena so it's not a problem..

117 Aye Pod  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:13:23pm

REM controversy:

Youtube Video

Night all :)

118 Racer X  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:13:50pm

It's not porn. It's art.

119 sattv4u2  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:14:00pm

re: #113 PT Barnum

someone talked dirty to me and I rose to the occassion..

I was going to leaf, but i seem to be rooted here

120 jamesfirecat  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:14:02pm

re: #110 PT Barnum

flower porn? Rule 34 applies, I'm sure..

Hot stamen on pistil action!

121 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:14:50pm

re: #118 Racer X

It's not porn. It's art.

If you wanna call airbrushing an art...

122 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:14:54pm

Carnation/Carnalnation!

123 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:15:21pm

re: #120 jamesfirecat

Hot stamen on pistil action!

Apparently God told all the orchids to go fuck themselves, and they did..

Safe link..but interesting article.

124 Racer X  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:15:26pm

re: #121 The Sanity Inspector

If you wanna call airbrushing an art...

You're ruining it.

125 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:15:53pm

re: #112 PT Barnum

I would really like to do that story as a short video!

126 Racer X  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:16:26pm

Barack Obama orders aides to stop in-fighting over troubled first year

Barack Obama has ordered his senior advisers not to take part in "Washington finger-pointing and intrigue" amid public recriminations over who is to blame for the White House's political troubles.

127 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:16:36pm

re: #120 jamesfirecat

Stemming the flow of conversation?

128 Velvet Elvis  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:16:52pm

Ween -- Blarney Stone -- Live 7-25-06

Youtube Video
129 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:16:56pm

re: #125 Rightwingconspirator

I would really like to do that story as a short video!

That would be cool....

130 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:17:12pm

re: #127 Rightwingconspirator

Stemming the flow of conversation?

*sigh*...Another bloomin' pun subthread...

131 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:17:24pm

So there's this new game called Supreme Commander 2. it's a really great RTS game, got a good launch on Steam, made a lot of money, Chris Talyor's studio of Total Annihalation fame. As the sequel, it fixes a lot of stuff with the first game, knocks down some of the complexity and fixes a bunch of balance issues.

But! There's these MANIACS, these angry crazy teenagers and wacked out furious geeks who are going onto Metacritic and downdinging the game, and smearing it on every gaming forum they can find, spamming the Steam forums about how much it sucks, and so on and so forth. because it's "dumbed down" or it's got DRM, or whatever.

Basically these are the same personalities, just writ political. Small people, without much going on, who have nothing to do but be internet reactionaries, thinking that beitch a little bitch on a forum or a comment field will change everything.

The phenomenon is the same. It's actually almost eerie, how similar it is. With the political side of things, it's more dangerous, you get all the creepy pseudo death threats, the camo-jacket basement beardo I-don't-own-a-gun-yet-I-am-a-gun-nut side of it, but the vibe is the same, the personalities are so very very familiar.

132 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:17:30pm

re: #127 Rightwingconspirator

Stemming the flow of conversation?

Go petal that crap somewhere else!

133 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:17:40pm

re: #130 The Sanity Inspector

Budding wits!

134 Velvet Elvis  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:17:52pm

re: #126 Racer X

Barack Obama orders aides to stop in-fighting over troubled first year

Barack Obama has ordered his senior advisers not to take part in "Washington finger-pointing and intrigue" amid public recriminations over who is to blame for the White House's political troubles.

In other words STFU Rahm, quit talking to the goddamn WaPo.

135 SteveC  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:18:09pm

re: #42 Irenicum

Mmmm, microwave popcorn in crazy people's heads. Pop, pop, pop, pop, kaboom!

Pop pop pop pop..popcorn! - Mr. Grocer, Grosse Pointe Blank

136 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:18:42pm

Thorny subject.

137 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:18:50pm

Oh by the way...I meant to say this up front in response to the LGF Stalkers.

GET A LIFE! WILL YOU PEOPLE!?

138 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:19:16pm

re: #136 Rightwingconspirator

Thorny subject.

Upding for charmap fu.

139 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:19:18pm

re: #136 Rightwingconspirator

Thorny subject.

Let's get to the root of the problem shall we?

140 The Left  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:19:24pm

re: #134 Conservative Moonbat

In other words STFU Rahm, quit talking to the goddamn WaPo.

Rahm and Anon-Rahmhaters, yep. imo.

141 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:19:28pm

re: #115 The Sanity Inspector

I think porn is awesome. People like fucking and they like movies and art. So there's movies and art about fucking.

And really, some pople could use some corrupting. :D

142 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:19:55pm

re: #137 PT Barnum

The haters will always fuck themselves. After all who else would?

143 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:20:04pm

re: #140 iceweasel

Rahm and Anon-Rahmhaters, yep. imo.

I read that as AMON-RAhm, like it was an egypt pun :D

144 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:21:03pm

re: #143 WindUpBird

Will the W.H. staffers join Rahm-Anon?

145 Velvet Elvis  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:21:06pm

re: #131 WindUpBird

So there's this new game called Supreme Commander 2. it's a really great RTS game, got a good launch on Steam, made a lot of money, Chris Talyor's studio of Total Annihalation fame. As the sequel, it fixes a lot of stuff with the first game, knocks down some of the complexity and fixes a bunch of balance issues.

But! There's these MANIACS, these angry crazy teenagers and wacked out furious geeks who are going onto Metacritic and downdinging the game, and smearing it on every gaming forum they can find, spamming the Steam forums about how much it sucks, and so on and so forth. because it's "dumbed down" or it's got DRM, or whatever.

Basically these are the same personalities, just writ political. Small people, without much going on, who have nothing to do but be internet reactionaries, thinking that beitch a little bitch on a forum or a comment field will change everything.

The phenomenon is the same. It's actually almost eerie, how similar it is. With the political side of things, it's more dangerous, you get all the creepy pseudo death threats, the camo-jacket basement beardo I-don't-own-a-gun-yet-I-am-a-gun-nut side of it, but the vibe is the same, the personalities are so very very familiar.

Wait, which DRM scheme dose SC2 have? Is that the one that requires a constant connection to the internet and keeps your saved game files on a central server? Whichever one that is is pretty dumb.

146 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:21:11pm

re: #143 WindUpBird

I read that as AMON-RAhm, like it was an egypt pun :D


Pharoah moans? (tying in with the floral theme)

147 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:22:12pm

re: #144 Rightwingconspirator

Will the W.H. staffers join Rahm-Anon?

I don't know, but if they start chanting IMHOTEP I'm going independent :D

148 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:23:09pm

re: #147 WindUpBird
LMAO!!

149 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:24:02pm

re: #145 Conservative Moonbat

Wait, which DRM scheme dose SC2 have? Is that the one that requires a constant connection to the internet and keeps your saved game files on a central server? Whichever one that is is pretty dumb.

it has the DRM called Steam.

Need Steam to play. if you bought the game fof Steam, you're used to it. It doesn't keep saves on a server or anything, but you go into the Steam interface to launch the game. Without Steam, I would A) have no job and B) PC gaming in its current form would be dead, so I'm okay with Steam. :D

150 SteveC  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:24:26pm

re: #146 PT Barnum

Pharoah moans? (tying in with the floral theme)

Phaa-Roh! Phaa-roh come an' I wanna go home!

151 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:24:50pm

re: #141 WindUpBird

I think porn is awesome. People like fucking and they like movies and art. So there's movies and art about fucking.

And really, some pople could use some corrupting. :D

Lust is the craving for salt of a man who is dying of thirst.
-- Frederick Buechner

152 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:25:04pm
153 jamesfirecat  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:25:52pm

re: #149 WindUpBird

it has the DRM called Steam.

Need Steam to play. if you bought the game fof Steam, you're used to it. It doesn't keep saves on a server or anything, but you go into the Steam interface to launch the game. Without Steam, I would A) have no job and B) PC gaming in its current form would be dead, so I'm okay with Steam. :D

Plus isn't Steam sort of connected with Valve, makers of Portal and L4D? That's another reason I cut it some slack...

154 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:26:03pm

re: #152 GreatDane

Flouncety flounce, flounce flouncety flounce flounce look at the flouncer go...

155 swamprat  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:26:03pm

re: #152 GreatDane

We all move on. Move on.

156 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:26:03pm

re: #149 WindUpBird

it has the DRM called Steam.

Need Steam to play. if you bought the game fof Steam, you're used to it. It doesn't keep saves on a server or anything, but you go into the Steam interface to launch the game. Without Steam, I would A) have no job and B) PC gaming in its current form would be dead, so I'm okay with Steam. :D

How do I get this damn Steam off my computer. One of my step critters put it on to show me Portal, and I still have it here. Is it in add-remove programs?

157 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:26:54pm

re: #152 GreatDane

I will be back in a year to check for improvements.


I can't wait for your next review.

158 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:26:58pm

And a flounce.

Sorry, you don't get to leave your goodbye cruel world comment at my site.

159 markie  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:27:02pm

Plenty of room to spread out and get comfortable in those empty heads, eh Charles?

Er, how do you avoid all the lukewarm mush though?

160 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:27:18pm

Islam isn't the problem anyway, it's the violent nutjobs who use it to justify the actions they would otherwise have to take responsibility for.

No different than identity Christians in my book.

161 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:27:59pm

They work so hard at their flounce posts, only to be deleted within minutes. Too bad, so sad.

162 freetoken  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:28:04pm

Well, that was an overly wordy, polite-looking flounce if I ever saw one. Still, condescension tastes sour no matter how well seasoned.

163 Velvet Elvis  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:28:10pm

re: #149 WindUpBird

it has the DRM called Steam.

Need Steam to play. if you bought the game fof Steam, you're used to it. It doesn't keep saves on a server or anything, but you go into the Steam interface to launch the game. Without Steam, I would A) have no job and B) PC gaming in its current form would be dead, so I'm okay with Steam. :D

OK, know what steam is. Not the one I was thinking of.

There's another new game out with a new form of DRM that's pretty absurd. My gaming needs end at NetHack so I don't pay that much attention. The idea was that all your savefiles are saved on a central server and you can't play unless you're connected to the internet. I forget the details.

164 [deleted]  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:28:18pm
165 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:28:21pm

re: #151 The Sanity Inspector

Lust is the craving for salt of a man who is dying of thirst.
-- Frederick Buechner


"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." -Hunter S. Thompson

To be clear, normal porn is boring. incredibly weird porn, that's where the fun is at. View it with your honey! Get some crazy ideas! Saying porn is bad is like saying weed is bad, or booze is bad. How is it that making art about sex is some weird no-no? Sex is essential to the human experience. It's not bad, just don't make it a substitute for intimacy or clarity. Don't drink to escape your life, and don't use porn for the same.

166 Racer X  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:28:21pm

THE RUNAWAYS Official Trailer!

Youtube Video
167 SteveC  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:28:31pm

re: #153 jamesfirecat

Plus isn't Steam sort of connected with Valve, makers of Portal and L4D? That's another reason I cut it some slack...

Steam is connected to Boiler. Boiler is connected to Turbine, which is connected to Propeller.

You need Propeller to make the whole thing work.

168 swamprat  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:28:32pm

re: #152 GreatDane

Was never an anti-islam blog. Pro Israel, anti terror, anti (violent) jihad. Maybe you would feel more comfortable at "stormfront".

169 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:29:02pm

re: #158 Charles

I was right in the middle of reading this to D-L, to show her a flounce. Then halfway through pfffft! Well thats how they are supposed to end. *wisp of smoke in santa ana wind*

170 jaunte  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:29:05pm

re: #162 freetoken

Well, that was an overly wordy, polite-looking flounce if I ever saw one. Still, condescension tastes sour no matter how well seasoned.

Not to mention it was b.s. He's here right now reading his reviews.

171 Tigger2005  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:29:06pm

Aww darnit! Now my reply to GreatDane will be deleted.

172 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:29:27pm

re: #161 Charles

They work so hard at their flounce posts, only to be deleted within minutes. Too bad, so sad.

What they want is the screenshot of it, to post elseweb.

173 Velvet Elvis  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:30:12pm

re: #166 Racer X

Oh Hell Yeah. I had no idea that was coming out.

174 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:30:15pm

re: #156 Walter L. Newton

How do I get this damn Steam off my computer. One of my step critters put it on to show me Portal, and I still have it here. Is it in add-remove programs?

yeah, should be in add-remove programs.

175 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:30:16pm

re: #161 Charles

They work so hard at their flounce posts, only to be deleted within minutes. Too bad, so sad.

Some day you should compile the best flounces and publish them as a book.

176 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:30:47pm

re: #170 jaunte

Not to mention it was b.s. He's here right now reading his reviews.

Nope, he isn't.

177 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:31:05pm

re: #166 Racer X

THE RUNAWAYS Official Trailer!


[Video]

Whoah...Dakota Fanning is smokin..and I say that in a non creepy though old enough to be her father sort of way...

178 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:31:06pm

re: #153 jamesfirecat

Plus isn't Steam sort of connected with Valve, makers of Portal and L4D? That's another reason I cut it some slack...

it's not connected to, it IS Valve. it's Valve's online gaming network/store/service.

179 markie  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:31:14pm

re: #175 goddamnedfrank

Maybe some of them will pick one up and actually read something.

180 jamesfirecat  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:31:46pm

re: #175 goddamnedfrank

Some day you should compile the best flounces and publish them as a book.

Or maybe a Calender....

181 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:32:02pm

re: #175 goddamnedfrank

Some day you should compile the best flounces and publish them as a book.

They're awfully repetitive.

182 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:32:15pm

re: #167 SteveC

Steam is connected to Boiler. Boiler is connected to Turbine, which is connected to Propeller.

You need Propeller to make the whole thing work.

Propeller? I barely knew her!

183 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:32:27pm

re: #177 PT Barnum

Whoah...Dakota Fanning is smokin..and I say that in a non creepy though old enough to be her father sort of way...

perv...that won't work...children are not smokin!

184 Velvet Elvis  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:32:36pm

re: #177 PT Barnum

Whoah...Dakota Fanning is smokin..and I say that in a non creepy though old enough to be her father sort of way...

I know what you mean, and I'm still in my 30s

185 swamprat  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:32:52pm

Well, we weren't bigoted enough for him. Somehow I feel so

so

so


pleased!

186 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:32:57pm

re: #181 SanFranciscoZionist

They're awfully repetitive.

and boring...a non sort of thing imo

187 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:33:09pm

re: #165 WindUpBird

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." -Hunter S. Thompson

To be clear, normal porn is boring. incredibly weird porn, that's where the fun is at. View it with your honey! Get some crazy ideas! Saying porn is bad is like saying weed is bad, or booze is bad. How is it that making art about sex is some weird no-no? Sex is essential to the human experience. It's not bad, just don't make it a substitute for intimacy or clarity. Don't drink to escape your life, and don't use porn for the same.

At my stage (not necessarily age), sex is less like the Fourth of July, and more like Thanksgiving. It's something to aspire to, if you don't mind my saying so.

188 avanti  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:33:42pm

Wired Magazine talks about Andrew Brietbart:

wired.

189 SteveC  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:33:45pm

re: #183 albusteve

perv...that won't work...children are not smokin!

Chris Hanson: "Just have a seat over there."

190 Racer X  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:34:16pm

The Matrix Pill

Youtube Video

LOL!

191 swamprat  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:35:20pm

I love the smell of burnt data!

192 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:35:36pm

re: #183 albusteve

perv...that won't work...children are not smokin!

I take that back...
Image: smoking-bloke.jpg

193 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:35:38pm

re: #187 The Sanity Inspector

At my stage (not necessarily age), sex is less like the Fourth of July, and more like Thanksgiving. It's something to aspire to, if you don't mind my saying so.

It's a calmer thing as you get older (at least it has for me). Less about rutting and more about communicating.

Though I did text my wife the other day with the following message:

Let's play pirates and have a jolly roger!

She replied that she wanted to shiver my timber...:)

194 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:36:21pm

re: #193 PT Barnum

It's a calmer thing as you get older (at least it has for me). Less about rutting and more about communicating.

Though I did text my wife the other day with the following message:

Let's play pirates and have a jolly roger!

She replied that she wanted to shiver my timber...:)

play hide the pickle?

195 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:36:32pm

re: #192 albusteve

I take that back...
[Link: www.thephotographypages.co.uk...]

Sorry I thought Dakota was 18 already..she's only 16..so I suspect that she'll be positively on fire by the time she's legal...

196 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:36:47pm

re: #1 Charles

"CaptainAmerica" is the misogynistic lunatic who used the name "buzzsawmonkey" at LGF.

And to think that I once admired that horse's ass.

197 Racer X  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:37:11pm

re: #177 PT Barnum

Whoah...Dakota Fanning is smokin..and I say that in a non creepy though old enough to be her father sort of way...

Ease up there - she is only 16.

198 SteveC  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:37:13pm

re: #193 PT Barnum

It's a calmer thing as you get older (at least it has for me). Less about rutting and more about communicating.

Though I did text my wife the other day with the following message:

Let's play pirates and have a jolly roger!

She replied that she wanted to shiver my timber...:)

All hands on deck! Draw your sword and prepare to board!

199 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:37:56pm

re: #195 PT Barnum

Sorry I thought Dakota was 18 already..she's only 16..so I suspect that she'll be positively on fire by the time she's legal...

see?...I know all about these child celebrities from Hollywood!...(NOT!)....never seen her before

200 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:38:21pm

re: #198 SteveC

All hands on deck! Draw your sword and prepare to board!

prepare to grapple!

201 Tigger2005  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:38:22pm

re: #177 PT Barnum

Whoah...Dakota Fanning is smokin..and I say that in a non creepy though old enough to be her father sort of way...

She's one of those rare popular child actresses to successfully make the transition to adult roles. When I saw her in "Push," I knew her career was just starting.

202 SteveC  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:39:07pm

re: #200 albusteve

prepare to grapple!

Arrrrgh, matey!

203 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:39:39pm

re: #201 Tigger2005

She's one of those rare popular child actresses to successfully make the transition to adult roles. When I saw her in "Push," I knew her career was just starting.

is she the foul mouthed child slut everybody was so excited about a while back?

204 sattv4u2  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:40:18pm

re: #203 albusteve

is she the foul mouthed child slut everybody was so excited about a while back?

You'll have to narrow that down some!

205 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:40:21pm

re: #202 SteveC

Arrrgh, matey!

pirate on Wheel of Fortune..I'd like to buy an eye!

I am a fearsome pirate
I fill men's hearts with fear!
My head's price? Two dollars.
I am a buccaneer.

206 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:40:22pm

re: #202 SteveC

Arrrgh, matey!

plunder the woman first!

207 SteveC  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:40:59pm

re: #203 albusteve

is she the foul mouthed child slut everybody was so excited about a while back?

I can think of about 7 or 8 different foul mouthed child sluts, so the answer is "quite possibly."

208 Tigger2005  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:41:03pm

re: #203 albusteve

is she the foul mouthed child slut everybody was so excited about a while back?

No, that must've been somebody else.

209 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:41:21pm

re: #204 sattv4u2

You'll have to narrow that down some!

the kid that says fuck you daddy etc?

210 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:41:59pm

Completely OT but discovered something neat about the Wii the other day. The sensor bar is complelety uneccessary...can be replaced by any two infrared light sources you choose. all the real guts are in the wiimote

211 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:42:00pm

re: #203 albusteve

is she the foul mouthed child slut everybody was so excited about a while back?

No. She stayed in high school (is actually part of the cheerleading squad), keeps her image clean, and seeks out parts to build her portfolio. She seems to be making a successful transition.

212 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:42:09pm

re: #207 SteveC

I can think of about 7 or 8 different foul mouthed child sluts, so the answer is "quite possibly."

close enuff for whor shooz

213 SteveC  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:42:11pm

re: #206 albusteve

plunder the woman first!

Aye, Cap'n! See you on the poop deck!

214 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:42:12pm

re: #195 PT Barnum

Sorry I thought Dakota was 18 already..she's only 16..so I suspect that she'll be positively on fire by the time she's legal...

Kinda sick anyway.

215 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:42:41pm

re: #131 WindUpBird

Heh. You're so right. The stalkers are just mad that Charles put out L4D2 'too soon'. It's exactly the same reaction and obsession.

216 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:42:57pm

re: #209 albusteve

the kid that says fuck you daddy etc?

That might be perpetual train wreck Lindsey Lohan, who is still a disaster area.

217 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:43:09pm

re: #214 Walter L. Newton

Kinda sick anyway.

Mr. Crankypants! How the hell are ya?

218 SteveC  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:44:12pm

re: #216 Dark_Falcon

That might be perpetual train wreck Lindsey Lohan, who is still a disaster area.

That milkaholic!

219 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:44:34pm

re: #211 Dark_Falcon

No. She stayed in high school (is actually part of the cheerleading squad), keeps her image clean, and seeks out parts to build her portfolio. She seems to be making a successful transition.

I think what struck me so strongly was that she had made this transition from cute little girl to beautiful young woman. Smokin' however, was probably the wrong word to use, now that I think of it...:)

220 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:44:45pm

re: #216 Dark_Falcon

That might be perpetual train wreck Lindsey Lohan, who is still a disaster area.

there is a child in a new movie that is very foul mouthed, and everyone has raved bout her....there were posts about her here...no big deal

221 freetoken  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:45:07pm
Youtube Video
222 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:45:13pm

re: #219 PT Barnum

I think what struck me so strongly was that she had made this transition from cute little girl to beautiful young woman. Smokin' however, was probably the wrong word to use, now that I think of it...:)

What was your first clue?

223 Racer X  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:45:21pm

re: #216 Dark_Falcon

That might be perpetual train wreck Lindsey Lohan, who is still a disaster area.

Hahahahahaha!

Total train wreck.

Youtube Video
224 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:45:37pm

A couple of years ago, about two hours up the interstate from me, a young hiker was abducted and murdered. Her killer was caught, convicted & is serving life.

Now Larry Flynt wants to get the crime scene photos of her, to run in his publication under the guise of a news story. The courts and the GBI are fighting the porn king's FOI requests, but may not succeed. If they lose, I hope some intern goes into the evidence files and burns the photos in the dumpster.

225 Tigger2005  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:46:00pm

re: #216 Dark_Falcon

That might be perpetual train wreck Lindsey Lohan, who is still a disaster area.

Lindsey and Britney Spears both need to realize that their true calling is to be lesbian porn actresses. I have spoken.

226 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:46:12pm

re: #219 PT Barnum

Can we stop talking about teenagers as sex objects, please?

It's creeping me the fuck out.

Besides, some of us prefer a more mature woman.

Image: zoe.jpg

227 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:47:19pm

re: #226 Obdicut

Can we stop talking about teenagers as sex objects, please?

It's creeping me the fuck out.

Besides, some of us prefer a more mature woman.

[Link: www.demaagd.com...]

like this?...good for you...
Image: old-hag-small1.jpg

228 sattv4u2  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:47:20pm

re: #225 Tigger2005

Lindsey and Britney Spears both need to realize that their true calling is to be lesbian porn actresses. I have spoken.

I wish you hadn't!

229 ryannon  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:47:25pm

re: #187 The Sanity Inspector

At my stage (not necessarily age), sex is less like the Fourth of July, and more like Thanksgiving. It's something to aspire to, if you don't mind my saying so.

You're essentially saying that you have sex once a year?

230 Tigger2005  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:48:08pm

re: #228 sattv4u2

I wish you hadn't!

OK, that wasn't me. It was ... Zardoz.

231 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:48:08pm

re: #226 Obdicut

Can we stop talking about teenagers as sex objects, please?

It's creeping me the fuck out.

Besides, some of us prefer a more mature woman.

[Link: www.demaagd.com...]

No kidding... it's fucking sick and it's pissing me off.

232 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:48:11pm

re: #229 ryannon

You're essentially saying that you have sex once a year?

obviously a serial fapper

233 sattv4u2  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:48:21pm

re: #229 ryannon

You're essentially saying that you have sex once a year?

either that, or he's a breast man! !

234 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:48:37pm

re: #227 albusteve

Steve, as May Mackenzie said, you've got a pickle up your ass again.

235 Racer X  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:48:52pm

Happy Ending Massage (Uncut Version)

Youtube Video
236 SteveC  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:49:38pm

re: #226 Obdicut

Can we stop talking about teenagers as sex objects, please?

It's creeping me the fuck out.

Besides, some of us prefer a more mature woman.

[Link: www.demaagd.com...]

I'll be in my bunk!

237 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:50:01pm

re: #195 PT Barnum

Sorry I thought Dakota was 18 already..she's only 16..so I suspect that she'll be positively on fire by the time she's legal...

"A woman under twenty is like ice. At thirty she is warm, and at forty she is hot."

That's on Gina Lollobrigida's authority for you.

238 swamprat  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:50:07pm

re: #226 Obdicut

Can we stop talking about teenagers as sex objects, please?

It's creeping me the fuck out.

Besides, some of us prefer a more mature woman.

[Link: www.demaagd.com...]


VERY nice. But she looks like Little Richard.

239 SteveC  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:50:11pm

re: #229 ryannon

You're essentially saying that you have sex once a year?

Under a turkey?!?!?!

240 freetoken  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:51:01pm

I posted that video because I think the process that moveon has devised is brilliant. Ok, so moveon causes heartburn, but yet, they've capitalized on a very important trend - the online vanity market.

Making oneself into a cartoon figure, a glamour girl, or part of a spoof video appeals to many, many people.

It is highly effective tools like this that can be used to edge opinion in one direction or the other.

I expect more of the same as time goes on and use of the 'net becomes more sophisticated.

241 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:51:19pm

re: #237 SanFranciscoZionist

I cannot for the life of me remember it now, but there was some dude in the Middle East earlier this century who was obsessed with Gina Lollabrigida, and ordered his dudes to never kill any Italian soldiers because he didn't want to cause her any sadness.

242 ryannon  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:52:54pm

re: #239 SteveC

Under a turkey?!?!?!

With a turkey?

243 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:53:45pm

I just watched the South Park movie for the first time, got to say, I'll never be able to think about Saddam again without hearing "I'll change."

244 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:54:06pm

re: #241 Obdicut

Here it is:

[Link: www.mit.edu...]

Mustafa Tlass, who had previously developed crushes for Madonna, Ciccolina, Marilyn Monroe, and other high profile entertainers, has finally divulged the identity of the current subject of his inevitably unrequited love. Tlass's love interests have at times factored into Syria's defense policies. When Syrian forces dove into the chaos of Beirut in 1983, the were ordered not to attack any Italian peacekeeping soldiers. According to the London Daily Telegraph, General Tlass told his men they could "do whatever you want with the U.S., British, and other forces, but...I do not want a single tear falling from the eyes of Gina Lollabrigida."

245 swamprat  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:56:16pm

re: #229 ryannon

You're essentially saying that you have sex once a year?

We make love only 12 times a year!

"Once a month? That is not too bad!"

NO! All on the same day!

"Does he eat anything special to prepare?"

Later

You know that thing we do once a year!??

Only three more months to go!!


/Zorro, the Gay Blade

246 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:56:40pm

re: #244 Obdicut

Here it is:

[Link: www.mit.edu...]

made up

247 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:56:46pm

re: #239 SteveC

Under a turkey?!?!?!


Better under than with...

248 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:57:14pm

I'm a little sporadic tonight because I'm job hunting. It's gotten real bad at work and I expect to get the ax, so I'm setting up interviews as quickly as possible. If I find one quickly enough, I can get settled in and avoid a Chapter 7. I expect to succeed. Thankfully, people are hiring right now here, so I at least have a decent chance.

249 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:57:30pm

re: #241 Obdicut

I cannot for the life of me remember it now, but there was some dude in the Middle East earlier this century who was obsessed with Gina Lollabrigida, and ordered his dudes to never kill any Italian soldiers because he didn't want to cause her any sadness.

LOL! She seriously, though, was/is that beautiful.

250 SteveC  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:57:33pm
"...I do not want a single tear falling from the eyes of Gina Lollabrigida."

Oh, my. I would so put her on the radio. Broadcast a tape of her saying "I am very disappointed in you, Mustafa." 24/7, 365!

251 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:57:42pm

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

I'm a little sporadic tonight because I'm job hunting. It's gotten real bad at work and I expect to get the ax, so I'm setting up interviews as quickly as possible. If I find one quickly enough, I can get settled in and avoid a Chapter 7. I expect to succeed. Thankfully, people are hiring right now here, so I at least have a decent chance.

What do you do for a gig?

252 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:58:03pm

re: #246 albusteve

Pickle.

253 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:58:12pm

re: #243 Walter L. Newton

I just watched the South Park movie for the first time, got to say, I'll never be able to think about Saddam again without hearing "I'll change."

It's not my fault that I'm so evil,
It's society, society,
For my parents were sometimes abusive,
And it made a prick of me!

But I can change, I can chaaaange....

254 Racer X  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:58:17pm

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

Good luck DF!

255 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 8:58:45pm

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

What part of the country are you in again, DF?

256 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:00:12pm

re: #252 Obdicut

Pickle.

Image: pickle2co.jpg

257 SteveC  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:00:24pm

re: #254 Racer X

Good luck DF!

Same from here. My your search be short and successful - and not involve the phrase "Would you like fries with that?"

258 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:00:54pm

re: #257 SteveC

Same from here. My your search be short and successful - and not involve the phrase "Would you like fries with that?"

red or green?

259 SteveC  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:01:48pm

re: #258 albusteve

red or green?

Three!

260 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:02:29pm

if I had the cash, I'd start up a wheelbarrow business...then expand into pitchforks

261 swamprat  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:02:48pm

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

How to get a job, a car, an apartment.

Buy a paper.

Arise at 5am the next day and buy a paper.

Compare the 2 and see what is new.

Be there first.

262 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:04:10pm

re: #251 PT Barnum

What do you do for a gig?

I sell mobile phones. They're reducing headcount at my store, and I just had a very bad day with multiple crises erupting in quick succession. While I'm talking to the district manager about it, he may decide to let me go. Some people have to go, but I should be able to keep my unemployment.

263 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:04:33pm

whoever figures out how to process plastic pop bottles into toilet paper is gonna make a mint

264 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:04:52pm

Flouncers don't last long enough to provide a substantial meal, and socks - well, they taste like sweaty cotton or wool.

Can we have a troll appear now, please? I'm hungry, and the beef jerky has run out.

265 avanti  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:04:56pm

OK, this is a long shot, but I'll ask anyway. This device was found in the Studebaker Engineering building, and no one has any idea of it's purpose. It is some sort of one off prototype "something" A friend acquired it and would like to know what the hell it is. Hint, it would have been built in the 60's and is about 12 feet long.

Picture.

266 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:04:58pm

re: #255 Obdicut

What part of the country are you in again, DF?

Near North Chicago suburbs.

267 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:05:43pm

re: #264 Cato the Elder

Flouncers don't last long enough to provide a substantial meal, and socks - well, they taste like sweaty cotton or wool.

Can we have a troll appear now, please? I'm hungry, and the beef jerky has run out.

Yes, please. I should still be able to afford at some charcoal, and we are hungry.

268 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:05:58pm

re: #250 SteveC

Oh, my. I would so put her on the radio. Broadcast a tape of her saying "I am very disappointed in you, Mustafa." 24/7, 365!

There are times when one is strongly reminded that the whole concept of courtly love is supposed to have originated with the Arabs.

Oh, BTW, saw the last two Rome episodes this evening.

269 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:06:05pm

re: #265 avanti

OK, this is a long shot, but I'll ask anyway. This device was found in the Studebaker Engineering building, and no one has any idea of it's purpose. It is some sort of one off prototype "something" A friend acquired it and would like to know what the hell it is. Hint, it would have been built in the 60's and is about 12 feet long.

Picture.

Mockup of an early hybrid?

270 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:06:58pm

re: #266 Dark_Falcon

Ah, Chicago in the spring, muddy, hailing on occasion, windy and wet. Until it turns into a month or so of perfect, gorgeous weather before becoming unbearably hot as the tar stink wafts off of the melting rooftops. I miss it sometimes.

I don't have many contacts left there, but if I hear anything, I'll let you know.

271 ryannon  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:07:20pm

re: #265 avanti

OK, this is a long shot, but I'll ask anyway. This device was found in the Studebaker Engineering building, and no one has any idea of it's purpose. It is some sort of one off prototype "something" A friend acquired it and would like to know what the hell it is. Hint, it would have been built in the 60's and is about 12 feet long.

Picture.

The last model before they went out of business?

272 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:07:24pm

re: #265 avanti

OK, this is a long shot, but I'll ask anyway. This device was found in the Studebaker Engineering building, and no one has any idea of it's purpose. It is some sort of one off prototype "something" A friend acquired it and would like to know what the hell it is. Hint, it would have been built in the 60's and is about 12 feet long.

Picture.

An early flounce-a-pult?

273 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:08:09pm

re: #268 SanFranciscoZionist

Are you a Pullo or a Vorenus girl?

274 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:08:17pm

re: #261 swamprat

How to get a job, a car, an apartment.

Buy a paper.

Arise at 5am the next day and buy a paper.

Compare the 2 and see what is new.

Be there first.

You forgot the most important ones:

1) Have a commercial driver's license
2) be a licensed vocational nurse, or a Registered Nurse
3) have post-doctoral education in a field that could be competently executed by a high-school graduate
4) be neither too young nor too old

I AM SO FRIGGING GLAD I am not job hunting at the moment.

275 SteveC  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:08:39pm

re: #271 ryannon

The last model before they went out of business?

A racer of some kind, because they have stripped it down!

276 Tigger2005  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:08:57pm

re: #265 avanti

The Model T-?

277 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:09:50pm

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

I'm a little sporadic tonight because I'm job hunting. It's gotten real bad at work and I expect to get the ax, so I'm setting up interviews as quickly as possible. If I find one quickly enough, I can get settled in and avoid a Chapter 7. I expect to succeed. Thankfully, people are hiring right now here, so I at least have a decent chance.

If it means you getting a better job, all of us 1s and 0s will gladly endure your absence for awhile.

You're lucky you're in sales. You're no doubt accustomed to the idea that if you want to eat, you've got to go kill it and drag it back to the cave. So many people just curl up into a ball and wait for the roof to fall in. Good luck!

278 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:10:25pm

re: #265 avanti

It's pretty odd, because the frame touches the ground in that picture.

I'd guess it was for a specialized industrial or farm vehicle, not a road vehicle.

279 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:10:57pm

re: #273 Obdicut

Are you a Pullo or a Vorenus girl?

Oh, very much Pullo. I mean, they're both scum, but Pullo is hotter and funnier scum.

280 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:11:47pm

re: #274 negativ

You forgot the most important ones:

1) Have a commercial driver's license
2) be a licensed vocational nurse, or a Registered Nurse
3) have post-doctoral education in a field that could be competently executed by a high-school graduate
4) be neither too young nor too old

I AM SO FRIGGING GLAD I am not job hunting at the moment.

I think the safest job in the country nowadays is a forklift driver in a resumé warehouse.

281 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:12:00pm

re: #262 Dark_Falcon

I sell mobile phones. They're reducing headcount at my store, and I just had a very bad day with multiple crises erupting in quick succession. While I'm talking to the district manager about it, he may decide to let me go. Some people have to go, but I should be able to keep my unemployment.

get rid of all your money, bury it or give it to someone to keep for you...go to the ER for some reason and you'll leave with a state funded medical policy...file for food stamps...become as poor as possible, then hit the local CC and enroll in the rad tech program with federal loans...in two years you will be vastly marketable in the health care rackett....you don't even need to pay off your loans, you can make up all kinds of excuses not to...meanwhile, you can move to Wyoming and knock down 40k a year just to start....if you don't like the mail you get, head for Utah, same gig....repeat forever

282 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:12:22pm

re: #279 SanFranciscoZionist

I figured as much. I thought that series did a number of things amazingly well, including telling a sympathetic story about scum, without shirking from how vastly different their values are.

And a great portrayal of Augustus as a truly different person, ahead of his time.

283 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:12:40pm

re: #264 Cato the Elder

Flouncers don't last long enough to provide a substantial meal, and socks - well, they taste like sweaty cotton or wool.

Can we have a troll appear now, please? I'm hungry, and the beef jerky has run out.

You could pretend this Saggy the Holocaust Denier posts here:

[Link: forums.randi.org...]

Note for the unaware: randi.org is in no way sympathetic to Holocaust deniers. It's a skeptic's forum, and as such attracts kooks of all types.

284 avanti  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:12:44pm

re: #278 Obdicut

It's pretty odd, because the frame touches the ground in that picture.

I'd guess it was for a specialized industrial or farm vehicle, not a road vehicle.

We were thinking some kind of military thing, but no idea. Someone suggested some sort of swamp or desert thing because of the "moon buggy tires"

285 ryannon  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:13:03pm

re: #265 avanti

It needs pedals.

286 swamprat  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:14:21pm

re: #265 avanti

1. It is a mockup...wheels are fake.
2. It doesn't steer.

probably a beginning design for some sort of cart to trundle car bodies, or engines, or even tooling or presses

parade float Flintstones car

287 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:15:10pm

Some Weather Report, from their greatest lineup, for you. And goodnight...

Youtube Video
288 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:15:40pm

re: #282 Obdicut

I figured as much. I thought that series did a number of things amazingly well, including telling a sympathetic story about scum, without shirking from how vastly different their values are.

And a great portrayal of Augustus as a truly different person, ahead of his time.

I was surprised at how pleased I was for Atia at the end of it all. The scene where she faces down with Livia made me giggle.

289 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:15:51pm

re: #284 avanti

Yeah, but the incredibly low clearance makes that not fit for me. And dune buggy wheels aren't actually that big, and swap vehicles wouldn't be so low-slung, either. See how the frame has a huge bar going down to the floor in the back? Even if you had big tires on it you'd just have a couple inches clearance.

I dunno. It's baffling.

290 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:17:31pm

re: #288 SanFranciscoZionist

I know he's a tyrant, but I was rooting for Augustus the whole time. At least he was honest about the corruption of the times, and about his ambition. And he liked Pullo straightforwardly and honestly

291 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:18:17pm

re: #289 Obdicut

Yeah, but the incredibly low clearance makes that not fit for me. And dune buggy wheels aren't actually that big, and swap vehicles wouldn't be so low-slung, either. See how the frame has a huge bar going down to the floor in the back? Even if you had big tires on it you'd just have a couple inches clearance.

I dunno. It's baffling.

looks like a four wheeled hash pipe to me

292 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:18:43pm

re: #281 albusteve

I think a more conventional approach is in order, Steve.

293 SteveC  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:18:49pm

This just in: Birth Control makes you Immortal!

Women in the UK who have ever used the oral contraceptive pill are less likely to die from any cause, including all cancers and heart disease, compared with never users, according to research published online in the British Medical Journal.

294 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:18:52pm

re: #287 The Sanity Inspector

Love Weather Report, but that's far from my favorite tune. You WERE trying to entertain ME specifically, weren't you?

Didja know the guy who killed Pastorius spent a whopping 4 months in jail? 'Tis true.

295 ryannon  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:19:16pm

re: #265 avanti

How about just a bunch of bored engineers putting together an absurd vehicle while waiting for the company to definitively fold?

296 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:19:36pm

re: #290 Obdicut

I know he's a tyrant, but I was rooting for Augustus the whole time. At least he was honest about the corruption of the times, and about his ambition. And he liked Pullo straightforwardly and honestly

Augustus simply doesn't appeal to me. He's brilliant, he'll make a good ruler, and he really can't help being who he is, but I have no sympathy for him. I really liked what they did with Caesar.

Cleopatra was terribly fun.

297 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:20:18pm

re: #292 Dark_Falcon

I think a more conventional approach is in order, Steve.

you gotta get out of the phone business...imo it's a dead end...it's a good time to retool

298 wee fury  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:20:22pm

re: #265 avanti

OK, this is a long shot, but I'll ask anyway. This device was found in the Studebaker Engineering building, and no one has any idea of it's purpose. It is some sort of one off prototype "something" A friend acquired it and would like to know what the hell it is. Hint, it would have been built in the 60's and is about 12 feet long.

Picture.

A big wheel for big people.

299 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:22:31pm

re: #267 Dark_Falcon

Yes, please. I should still be able to afford at some charcoal, and we are hungry.

I'm still smarting from Obama's failure to contribute anything to the Cato Fund. He obviously has a deep-seated hatred of Romans and Roman culture...

300 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:23:05pm

re: #292 Dark_Falcon

Good luck. Times are tough, hang in there.

301 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:23:18pm

re: #293 SteveC

This just in: Birth Control makes you Immortal!

Remember the days when journalists actually made an effort to understand the shit they were reporting; when they knew the difference between correlation and causation; and when stories that were reported before all the facts were in were sure to have a follow-up once more details were understood?

Yeah, me neither.

302 Gus  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:23:28pm

re: #265 avanti

OK, this is a long shot, but I'll ask anyway. This device was found in the Studebaker Engineering building, and no one has any idea of it's purpose. It is some sort of one off prototype "something" A friend acquired it and would like to know what the hell it is. Hint, it would have been built in the 60's and is about 12 feet long.

Picture.

Weird. Looking at this now and I suddenly realized it might not be a four wheel devices. Looks like it could be two wheels and one is just laying on top of the other.

303 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:25:09pm

re: #302 Gus 802

Oh, totally-- or a four wheel one with the frame not assembled, so the back thing is supposed to rotate so those bars are parallel to the ground.

304 avanti  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:25:19pm

re: #295 ryannon

How about just a bunch of bored engineers putting together an absurd vehicle while waiting for the company to definitively fold?

No, this is what they wanted for the 1965 Hawk when they ran out of money and moved to Canada.


prototype.

305 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:25:43pm

re: #265 avanti

OK, this is a long shot, but I'll ask anyway. This device was found in the Studebaker Engineering building, and no one has any idea of it's purpose. It is some sort of one off prototype "something" A friend acquired it and would like to know what the hell it is. Hint, it would have been built in the 60's and is about 12 feet long.

Picture.

If that thing's 12 feet long, then I'm about 140 feet tall. Humbug!

306 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:25:52pm

re: #262 Dark_Falcon

I sell mobile phones. They're reducing headcount at my store, and I just had a very bad day with multiple crises erupting in quick succession. While I'm talking to the district manager about it, he may decide to let me go. Some people have to go, but I should be able to keep my unemployment.

Bummer...I'm a little nervous myself, as the guy who owned the company I work for passed away, but his son is running the business and he likes me just fine. I'm just hoping that control of the company passes to him, as he is probably the easier brother to work for. The other one has some personality quirks.

307 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:26:27pm

re: #141 WindUpBird

I think porn is awesome. People like fucking and they like movies and art. So there's movies and art about fucking.

And really, some pople could use some corrupting. :D

There was a similar line like that in the movie, Zack and Miri make a porno. Lessee if the imdb.com has it:

Miriam Linky: Nobody wants to see us f-ck, Zack!

Zack: EVERYBODY wants to see ANYBODY f-ck. I hate Rosie O'Donell, but if somebody said "I got a tape of Rosie O'Donell getting f-cked stupid" I'd be like "Why the f-ck aren't we watching that right now?"

308 Gus  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:27:06pm

re: #303 Obdicut

Oh, totally-- or a four wheel one with the frame not assembled, so the back thing is supposed to rotate so those bars are parallel to the ground.

Right. Might be disassembled. I'm wondering what those dark pieces of metal are. The vertical pieces.

309 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:27:06pm

re: #302 Gus 802

Looks like it could be two wheels and one is just laying on top of the other.

Yeah, I think you're right. It's two separate 2 wheeled devices.

310 SteveC  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:27:15pm

re: #299 Cato the Elder

I'm still smarting from Obama's failure to contribute anything to the Cato Fund. He obviously has a deep-seated hatred of Romans and Roman culture...

Somehow I doubt that he donated anything to Cato the Younger. I can't see Younger and Obama agreeing on much.

311 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:28:32pm

re: #307 eclectic infidel

There was a similar line like that in the movie, Zack and Miri make a porno. Lessee if the imdb.com has it:

Miriam Linky: Nobody wants to see us f-ck, Zack!

Zack: EVERYBODY wants to see ANYBODY f-ck. I hate Rosie O'Donell, but if somebody said "I got a tape of Rosie O'Donell getting f-cked stupid" I'd be like "Why the f-ck aren't we watching that right now?"

I love a good smutty thread...what's with this wimpy 'f-ck stuff?...fuck

312 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:28:46pm

re: #308 Gus 802

Right. Might be disassembled. I'm wondering what those dark pieces of metal are. The vertical pieces.

Those join the two halves together.

313 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:29:14pm

Alloutte, SFZ, you ladies still here?

314 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:29:25pm

re: #297 albusteve

you gotta get out of the phone business...imo it's a dead end...it's a good time to retool

That I agree with. The pressure builds up there, and I'm not the best at it. It's time to find something I do better.

315 avanti  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:29:34pm

re: #305 negativ

If that thing's 12 feet long, then I'm about 140 feet tall. Humbug!

I might be off a bit, use the 4 foot long axles for scale.

316 Gus  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:29:35pm

re: #309 Killgore Trout

Yeah, I think you're right. It's two separate 2 wheeled devices.

Odd shape. It would have to be for something very specific.

317 SteveC  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:29:53pm

re: #301 negativ

Remember the days when journalists actually made an effort to understand the shit they were reporting; when they knew the difference between correlation and causation; and when stories that were reported before all the facts were in were sure to have a follow-up once more details were understood?

Yeah, me neither.

The Health News Review routinely takes health reporters to task when they blow a story. He has no lack of material. :(

318 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:30:32pm

re: #313 Slumbering Behemoth

Alloutte, SFZ, you ladies still here?

Yes.

319 avanti  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:31:07pm

re: #316 Gus 802

Odd shape. It would have to be for something very specific.

Well, it was found in one piece, I'll find out if it comes apart from my friend.

320 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:31:08pm

re: #314 Dark_Falcon

That I agree with. The pressure builds up there, and I'm not the best at it. It's time to find something I do better.

if you want it bad enough, chances are very good it will come to you..if you are gonna be used, might as well make good money for it

321 sattv4u2  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:31:11pm

re: #316 Gus 802

Odd shape. It would have to be for something very specific.

I have a cousin like that!!
//

322 Gus  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:31:13pm

re: #315 avanti

I might be off a bit, use the 4 foot long axles for scale.

Assembly line truck? Prototype? Experimental?

323 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:31:42pm

re: #310 SteveC

Somehow I doubt that he donated anything to Cato the Younger. I can't see Younger and Obama agreeing on much.

Oh, snaps!

I'd upding you but for your wingnutty implication that Obama is Caesar and takes bribes.

324 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:31:53pm

re: #316 Gus 802

Yeah, whatever it is intended for it wasn't meant to carry much weight.

325 avanti  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:32:23pm

re: #322 Gus 802

Assembly line truck? Prototype? Experimental?

Yes, it's likely one of those.

326 simoom  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:32:49pm

Has anyone been following the Texas State Board of Education debate today? Some excerpts from the TFN liveblogging.

Swapping out Thomas Jefferson for St. Thomas Aquinas:

9:30 – Board member Cynthia Dunbar wants to change a standard having students study the impact of Enlightenment ideas on political revolutions from 1750 to the present. She wants to drop the reference to Enlightenment ideas (replacing with “the writings of”) and to Thomas Jefferson. She adds Thomas Aquinas and others. Jefferson’s ideas, she argues, were based on other political philosophers listed in the standards. We don’t buy her argument at all. Board member Bob Craig of Lubbock points out that the curriculum writers clearly wanted to students to study Enlightenment ideas and Jefferson. Could Dunbar’s problem be that Jefferson was a Deist? The board approves the amendment, taking Thomas Jefferson OUT of the world history standards.

9:40 – We’re just picking ourselves up off the floor. The board’s far-right faction has spent months now proclaiming the importance of emphasizing America’s exceptionalism in social studies classrooms. But today they voted to remove one of the greatest of America’s Founders, Thomas Jefferson, from a standard about the influence of great political philosophers on political revolutions from 1750 to today.

9:45 – Here’s the amendment Dunbar changed: “explain the impact of Enlightenment ideas from John Locke, Thomas Hobbes, Voltaire, Charles de Montesquieu, Jean Jacques Rousseau, and Thomas Jefferson on political revolutions from 1750 to the present.” Here’s Dunbar’s replacement standard, which passed: “explain the impact of the writings of John Locke, Thomas Hobbes, Voltaire, Charles de Montesquieu, Jean Jacques Rousseau, Thomas Aquinas, John Calvin and Sir William Blackstone.” Not only does Dunbar’s amendment completely change the thrust of the standard. It also appalling drops one of the most influential political philosophers in American history — Thomas Jefferson.

9:51 – Dunbar’s amendment striking Jefferson passed with the votes of the board’s far-right members and board member Geraldine “Tincy” Miller of Dallas.

327 ryannon  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:33:04pm

re: #304 avanti

Believe it or not, my step-father was a Studebaker guy. I got to drive two of them - one was the classic 51 model and the other a much newer model, possibily something from the 60s. But neither of them were the sexier Hawks...

328 simoom  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:33:05pm

re: #326 simoom

Inserting the right to bear arms into the first amendment section of the standards:

11:21 – Board member Barbara Cargill wants to insert a discussion of the right to bear arms in a standard that focuses on First Amendment rights and the expression of various points of view. This is absurd. If they want students to study the right to bear arms, at least try to find an appropriate place in the standards for it. This is yet another example of politicians destroying the coherence of a curriculum document for no reason other than promoting ideological pet causes. Republican board member Bob Craig of Lubbock is suggesting a better place for such a standard. But the amendment passes anyway. The board’s far-right faction is simply impervious to logic.

11:30 – Board member Pat Hardy notes that elsewhere the standards already require students to study each of the freedoms and rights guaranteed by the Bill of Rights. No one seems to care.

11:33 – Bob Craig tries, once again, to talk some sense into these folks. Board member Cynthia Dunbar argues that the original standard’s focus on the rights of “petition, assembly, speech, and press in a democratic society” unfairly emphasizes the First Amendment over others. She suggests taking that out altogether if the Second Amendment isn’t included. Board member Ken Mercer argues that the right to bear arms is too important not to include here. But it IS included in the standards. The purpose of the original standard is to have students understand the rights to free expression in a democratic society. The right to bear arms is not relevant to that purpose.

11:45 – It passes.

329 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:33:09pm

re: #324 Killgore Trout

Yeah, whatever it is intended for it wasn't meant to carry much weight.

maybe it's a high tech goat cart...for marketing in the third world

330 avanti  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:33:14pm

re: #324 Killgore Trout

Yeah, whatever it is intended for it wasn't meant to carry much weight.

Someone suggested a frame to accept a stretcher ?

331 swamprat  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:33:21pm

re: #303 Obdicut

Mockup of a jet landing gear. The back set is definitely supposed to be attached to the frame so that both sets are parallel.
Some sort of cart, or they were bidding on an aircraft contract?

332 SteveC  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:33:28pm

re: #323 Cato the Elder

Oh, snaps!

I'd upding you but for your wingnutty implication that Obama is Caesar and takes bribes.

Just chortling along with ya, Cato! :)

333 simoom  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:33:54pm

re: #326 simoom

Adding Supply-side Economics and striking "Capitalism":

11:59 – Board member Ken Mercer suggests this standard: “understand how government taxation and regulations can serve as restrictions to private enterprise.” Bob Craig points out that the amendment is misplaced. It is — the section in which it would be inserted deals with government policies on “science, technology and society,” not “private enterprise.” Moreover, would Mercer object to a standard that discusses how taxation and regulation can be a benefit in some circumstances? We doubt it. Perhaps he doesn’t consider that when he drinks an unpolluted glass of water.

12:03 – Mercer moves his movement to a section on the economy. It passes.

12:04 – The current standards draft currently refer to the economic system that exists in the United States as “free enterprise (capitalist, free market).” Mercer offers an amendment to strike out “(capitalist, free market)” in the standards and leave just “free enterprise.” The board’s far-right members have repeatedly complained (absurd) that “capitalism” is a negative term and, in any case, that state statute requires students to learn about the “free enterprise system.” Scholars on the curriculum teams had argued that “capitalism” and “free market” are commonly used terms in economics courses and everyday discourse. But Mercer and his allies on the board have this bizarre fetish with the words “free enterprise” over all others. Terri Leo: “I do think words mean things. . . . I see no reason, frankly, to compromise with liberal professors from academia.” The woman is shameless. How dare she attack someone whose politics she doesn’t even know.

12:08 – Pat Hardy notes that the scholar who recommended that “capitalism” and “free market” be used in the standards teaches at Texas A&M and is a Republican. He is “not some kind of crazy liberal,” she says.

12:11 – One is tempted to climb to the top of the Texas Education Agency building and shout: “These people have lost their minds.”

12:12 – Pat Hardy is calling out the board for its silliness and the suggestion that “capitalism” is a “nasty word.”

12:13 – Ken Mercer: I think capitalism is a good word, but academics don’t. Really? And where does he get that? This is a classic example of how some board members attack and smear without any facts.

12:15 – Guess what? It passes. The Texas State Board of Education has stricken from the standards references to “capitalism” and “free market” because the board’s right-wingers think “capitalism” is a negative term. The only permitted term for such an economic system will be “free enterprise.” We wouldn’t believe this if we hadn’t just watched it happen. This is so stupid it makes our head hurt.

Failed attempt to add Separation of Church and State:

12:28 – Board member Mavis Knight offers the following amendment: “examine the reasons the Founding Fathers protected religious freedom in America by barring government from promoting or disfavoring any particular religion over all others.” Knight points out that students should understand that the Founders believed religious freedom was so important that they insisted on separation of church and state.

12:32 – Board member Cynthia Dunbar argues that the Founders didn’t intend for separation of church and state in America. And she’s off on a long lecture about why the Founders intended to promote religion. She calls this amendment “not historically accurate.”

12:35 – Knight’s amendment fails on a straight party-line vote, 5-10. Republicans vote no, Democrats vote yes.

334 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:33:55pm

re: #311 albusteve

I usually like the word "fuck" too but I also understand other people may not share the same feelings so I aim for a middle ground. I figure that some folk on LGF have kids and the little ones may be running about, look over mom or dad's shoulder and read something that perhaps the parent doesn't want 'em to read.

335 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:34:01pm

re: #314 Dark_Falcon

That I agree with. The pressure builds up there, and I'm not the best at it. It's time to find something I do better.

Best thing you can do is get completely out of debt, at which point you can do whatever the hell makes you happy. My plan is to get everything paid off so we can live off my wife's salary, since my line is either feast or famine (if I have a gig...the money is very good...if I don't have a gig I get nothing till I find my next one.

336 simoom  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:34:18pm

re: #326 simoom

Add discussion of “the laws of nature and nature’s God” and ix-nay on the emocratic-day:

12:55 – The board just voted for an amendment by Cynthia Dunbar that students learn that “the laws of nature and nature’s God” be included in a list of political ideas in history that influenced the writing of the Constitution and other founding documents.

1:02 – Now Dunbar moves to replace “democratic republic” to “constitutional republic” in referring to U.S. government throughout all of the social studies standards.

Needs more conservative sociologists:

3:19 – No amendments for psychology, so on to sociology. Cynthia Dunbar Barbara Cargill moves to add Robert Nisbet to a list of sociologists students should study. Nisbet, she says, was a political conservative. Oh, well, then. The amendment passes. Apparently, pushing a political agenda extends into the sociology standards as well. It’s hard to take this board seriously at all.

Fearing "the gay":

3:38 – Cargill moves to strike this standard: “differentiate between sex and gender as social constructs and determine how gender and socialization interact.” Cargill argues that this standard would lead to students learning about “transexuals, transvestites and who knows what else.”

3:40 – Lawrence Allen of Houston notes that most high schools include gay and lesbian youth. Mavis Knight says she read the standard as an opportunity for students to study about changing gender roles for men and women over time.

3:45 – Cargill says her amendment is based on her Google research. Really. Did she ever consider picking up a phone to call a sociologist?

3:47 – Mavis Knight points out that the curriculum writers are education professionals. She argues its insulting to think that teachers would do a Google search to find out what to teach students.

3:48 – Ken Mercer: this is about sex.

3:50 – The amendment to strip out the standard passes.

337 avanti  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:34:35pm

re: #327 ryannon

Believe it or not, my step-father was a Studebaker guy. I got to drive two of them - one was the classic 51 model and the other a much newer model, possibily something from the 60s. But neither of them were the sexier Hawks...

Today, we have more of the sexy Hawks at the shows, but the sedans were the bread and butter cars.

338 simoom  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:35:01pm

re: #326 simoom

We gave the Catholics Thomas Aquinas so it's only fair that we add something for the Protestants too:

3:59 – Back to the amendment earlier today stripping Thomas Jefferson from a world history standard about political philosophers who influenced political revolutions from the 1700s to today: whom did the board add to the standard in place of Jefferson? Thomas Aquinas, John Calvin and William Blackstone. John Calvin? Out with the Jefferson and the Enlightenment (the latter also removed from the same standard) and in with Christian fundamentalism. Got it.

Down with the Fed and bring back the Gold Standard:

4:10 – Now the board is moving on to the high school economics course.

4:11 – Cargill’s first amendment: “Analyze the decline in the value of the U.S. dollar since the inception of the Federal Reserve System since 1913.” We had already seen this amendment and ran it by economists. In short, this amendment is too ignorant even for this board. Pat Hardy puts it correctly: she’s amazed at how these board members see themselves as experts in economics. Mavis Knight makes the clear point: there are a lot of reasons why a currency increases or decreases in value over time, especially over the course of a century. This amendment is another detour into Crazy Town.

4:15 – Cargill accepts a change that simply calls on students to study the decline in the value of the U.S. dollar since 1913, leaving out a specific reference to the Federal Reserve System. But why start with 1913? This is silly.

4:17 – The board drops “1913.” So the amendment now just focuses on “analyze the decline in value of the U.S. dollar.” Except David Bradley now suggests adding “including the abandonment of the gold standard.” “I bet the Federal Reserve would object, but that’s okay,” Bradley says.

4:21 – Why doesn’t a board member suggest that they actually ask an economist whether this standard makes any sense? Well, they don’t, and the amendment passes.

Texas artists who have painted nudity have got to go:

4:35 – Cargill moves to strip Santa Barraza from a list of Texas artists in the Grade 7 Texas history course. She wants to replace Barraza with Tex Avery and argues that Barraza isn’t appropriate for seventh-graders and apparently is distributing what some board members seem to think is an inappropriate painting. Other board members are appalled that Cargill would take an artist out because of a single painting that would never show up in a textbook anyway. (We haven’t seen the painting.)

4:42 – David Bradley argues that the painting would be inappropriate for seventh-graders. We don’t know what the painting is, but it’s inconceivable that any publisher would include a nude painting in a textbook. Will this silliness ever end?

4:47 – Mary Helen Berlanga: Should the board now censor Michelangelo because of the nudes in some of his artwork?

4:51 – The amendments passes. Barraza is out, Avery is in.

Protest walk-out and a Marxist false alarm:

5:09 – Mary Helen Berlanga announces that she’s leaving the meeting because she’s had it with the board’s willy-nilly amending of the standards.

5:36 – The board adds Bill Martin Jr. back to the Grade 3 standards. The board had removed the author of the children’s book “Brown Bear, Brown Bear” in January, mistaking him for a man with the same name who had written a book on Marxism.

339 Charles Johnson  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:35:29pm

It's horrible and disgusting what's going on in Texas this week.

340 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:35:40pm

re: #326 simoom

Has anyone been following the Texas State Board of Education debate today? Some excerpts from the TFN liveblogging.

Swapping out Thomas Jefferson for St. Thomas Aquinas:

Pathetic, and damaging to America. These kooks have no shame.

341 avanti  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:36:13pm

re: #331 swamprat

Mockup of a jet landing gear. The back set is definitely supposed to be attached to the frame so that both sets are parallel.
Some sort of cart, or they were bidding on an aircraft contract?

They did build engines for the B-25 during the war and worked with Curtiss Wright in the 60's.

342 SteveC  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:36:15pm

re: #331 swamprat

Some sort of cart, or they were bidding on an aircraft contract?

That could be it. Made to help move something very heavy or bulky. You stand it on edge and get the 45 degree bar on the right under whatever you are moving, then you can lower it down so that all four wheels are on the ground.

343 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:36:22pm

re: #334 eclectic infidel

I usually like the word "fuck" too but I also understand other people may not share the same feelings so I aim for a middle ground. I figure that some folk on LGF have kids and the little ones may be running about, look over mom or dad's shoulder and read something that perhaps the parent doesn't want 'em to read.

well if you need to post that stuff, just go for it...I don't know about other kids, but mine would consider fuck and f-ck the same thing

344 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:36:38pm

"The board adds Bill Martin Jr. back to the Grade 3 standards. The board had removed the author of the children’s book “Brown Bear, Brown Bear” in January, mistaking him for a man with the same name who had written a book on Marxism."

The board isn't very bright. This is the impression I am getting here.

345 swamprat  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:36:40pm

re: #315 avanti

I might be off a bit, use the 4 foot long axles for scale.


Then the wheels are over 36 inches in diameter?
They are mockups because standard car wheels are smaller.

346 Irenicum  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:37:09pm

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

Keep at it DF! Whoever you work for will be glad they have you.

347 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:37:32pm

re: #326 simoom

Has anyone been following the Texas State Board of Education debate today? Some excerpts from the TFN liveblogging.

Swapping out Thomas Jefferson for St. Thomas Aquinas [...]

Note also the strategic omission of the world "enlightenment". It's a Buddhist, i.e. non-Christian, concept.

And the rabid Catholic-haters among the fundie base are not going to approve the inclusion of Thomas Aquinas, Doctor Angelicus.

348 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:37:34pm

re: #314 Dark_Falcon

That I agree with. The pressure builds up there, and I'm not the best at it. It's time to find something I do better.

I've always wondered, what is your educational background? If that's too personal, I completely understand.

349 Gus  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:38:17pm

re: #325 avanti

Yes, it's likely one of those.

Hey, while searching I ran into this which I thought you might like...

[Link: www.loc.gov...]

350 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:39:13pm

On a different note (since I have the time), I joined 3 other activists and staged a minor counter-demonstration in Hayward today. Seems we upset the other side so much that they called the cops who proceeded to explain to the Israel haters that everyone has a right to free speech and so long as we don't touch them or make threatening gestures, we're doing nothing wrong. When we got there we were yelled at so a couple guys yelled back and the other side took offense and brought the police into it. Basically we learned that we can't stand on the side walk and can't get near them but otherwise we're free to simply be.

Happy days. Oh, and the folks driving by seemed to appreciate us being there.

351 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:40:39pm

re: #335 PT Barnum

Best thing you can do is get completely out of debt, at which point you can do whatever the hell makes you happy. My plan is to get everything paid off so we can live off my wife's salary, since my line is either feast or famine (if I have a gig...the money is very good...if I don't have a gig I get nothing till I find my next one.

That won't happen quickly, except through a Chapter 7, and I want to avoid that. That said, it is a goal of mine. I've come to realize how debt takes over your life, and I need to get control of it. I'll look into how that happens based on my job search and consultations with my parents and friends.

352 avanti  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:41:48pm

re: #349 Gus 802

Hey, while searching I ran into this which I thought you might like...

[Link: www.loc.gov...]

Yep, he designed a lot of Studebakers.

353 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:41:50pm

re: #347 Cato the Elder

Note also the strategic omission of the world "enlightenment". It's a Buddhist, i.e. non-Christian, concept.

And the rabid Catholic-haters among the fundie base are not going to approve the inclusion of Thomas Aquinas, Doctor Angelicus.

And yet they're stoopid enough to leave in Voltaire. Don't they know that M. Arouet was one of the biggest mockers of Christianity evah? No, they don't. I'll wager one or two of them heard talk of his line from Candide, "all is for the best in the best of all possible worlds", and thought he meant it seriously.

Oh, I shall die laughing.

354 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:42:02pm

re: #348 austin_blue

I've always wondered, what is your educational background? If that's too personal, I completely understand.

I have a degree in Political Science. I should have majored in something else. Any ideas on how I could get election work this year to tide me over?

355 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:42:52pm

re: #141 WindUpBird

I think porn is awesome. People like fucking and they like movies and art. So there's movies and art about fucking.

And really, some pople could use some corrupting. :D

Today's porn is horrible and worthless. I like the utterly ridiculous stuff from the 70s and early 80s when they at least made a pretense of making an actual movie. Totally stupid plotlines, and dialog & acting so terrible that not even MST3K could do anything with it. And absurdly gratuitous sex. Most everything Ron Jeremy ever did fits that description. I also once saw a really "good" French one called "Les petites écolières".

Nowadays, it's just generic plastic chicks, musclebound steroid freaks, a rented mansion, a couple of lights and a DV camcorder. Empty and soulless, just like the people who produce it.

All porn is bullshit anyway, but it's like fast food: none of it's good for you, but since you're gonna eat it anyway, might as well acknowledge that Whataburger is objectively better than McDonald's.

Or something.

356 avanti  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:42:55pm

re: #345 swamprat

Then the wheels are over 36 inches in diameter?
They are mockups because standard car wheels are smaller.

We don't think it had anything to do with a car.

357 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:43:00pm

re: #351 Dark_Falcon

That won't happen quickly, except through a Chapter 7, and I want to avoid that. That said, it is a goal of mine. I've come to realize how debt takes over your life, and I need to get control of it. I'll look into how that happens based on my job search and consultations with my parents and friends.

we were on the verge until I got this gig...I'm hoping it will result in more gigs down the road, but I'm also working on developing some additional streams of income that I can fall back on when things get quiet....I love freelancing and contract consulting, but it can get a bit shakey at times.

358 SteveC  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:44:00pm

Hmm. Looks like my daypass from the Happy Acres Home for the Rejected and Dejected is about to expire. I need to hustle back and sign myself in before Dr. Demented signs me up for the GI Series.

Somehow I don't think he's talking about Army Baseball.

359 Killgore Trout  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:44:30pm

re: #330 avanti

Someone suggested a frame to accept a stretcher ?

That's a good guess.

360 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:44:42pm

I expect they'll soon vote to shut down all the public libraries in Texas. Those things are socialist, and a kid might go there and actually learn something not approved by the wingnuts.

361 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:44:57pm

re: #340 Dark_Falcon

Pathetic, and damaging to America. These kooks have no shame.

Well, no.

"The Bible says it, I believe it, and that settles it."

The problem is that Texas is such a huge market for textbooks that this is the crap that is coming to your kids in the future.

362 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:45:08pm

Well..Mrs. Barnum is home and my sinuses are swollen shut again (no correlation between the two however) so I am going to go to bed. G'nite everybody.

363 webevintage  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:45:08pm

re: #338 simoom

My God, the overwhelming stupidity makes my brain hurt.
I feel bad for the folks who had to live blog the Texas crazy...

364 swamprat  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:45:22pm

re: #342 SteveC

That could be it. Made to help move something very heavy or bulky. You stand it on edge and get the 45 degree bar on the right under whatever you are moving, then you can lower it down so that all four wheels are on the ground.

Yes and the tubing tied to the front set is a failed bar that bent.
This thing is slid under some object, and then toggled so that the middle part becomes parallel to the ground.
Looks like a factory tooling... but why not design it with automobile tires?

365 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:45:50pm

re: #318 SanFranciscoZionist

I was thinking about our earlier convo about BMI and insurance companies, and my Schwarzenegger comment. I was curious, so I checked the stats and did the math.

Based on these Schwarzenegger stats, I got this:

His off season weight = 33.4 BMI
His competition weight = 30.2 BMI

Clearly, he was not in poor health when he was into competitive body building, yet both his off season and competition BMIs clearly put him into the "obese" category, when he was anything but obese.

Take that info to your insurance company and tell them to shove their idiotic BMI/premium setting policy up their asses!

/if that's even possible

366 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:46:33pm

re: #361 austin_blue

Well, no.

"The Bible says it, I believe it, and that settles it."

The problem is that Texas is such a huge market for textbooks that this is the crap that is coming to your kids in the future.

yup...better make an alternative plan...or one could just ride it out on LGFs

367 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:46:58pm

re: #365 Slumbering Behemoth

I was thinking about our earlier convo about BMI and insurance companies, and my Schwarzenegger comment. I was curious, so I checked the stats and did the math.

Based on these Schwarzenegger stats, I got this:

His off season weight = 33.4 BMI
His competition weight = 30.2 BMI

Clearly, he was not in poor health when he was into competitive body building, yet both his off season and competition BMIs clearly put him into the "obese" category, when he was anything but obese.

Take that info to your insurance company and tell them to shove their idiotic BMI/premium setting policy up their asses!

/if that's even possible

Thanks! (Giggling now.)

368 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:47:32pm

re: #311 albusteve

I love a good smutty thread...what's with this wimpy 'f-ck stuff?...fuck

Please tell me you've seen "South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut", the movie that should have won every single Oscar that year...

369 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:47:34pm

re: #343 albusteve

Ok. Thanks for the info. :)

370 simoom  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:47:36pm

re: #363 webevintage

My God, the overwhelming stupidity makes my brain hurt.
I feel bad for the folks who had to live blog the Texas crazy...

The weirdest part of today's meeting was the Paulian Fed/Gold Standard shout-out.

371 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:47:58pm

re: #350 eclectic infidel

On a different note (since I have the time), I joined 3 other activists and staged a minor counter-demonstration in Hayward today. Seems we upset the other side so much that they called the cops who proceeded to explain to the Israel haters that everyone has a right to free speech and so long as we don't touch them or make threatening gestures, we're doing nothing wrong. When we got there we were yelled at so a couple guys yelled back and the other side took offense and brought the police into it. Basically we learned that we can't stand on the side walk and can't get near them but otherwise we're free to simply be.

Happy days. Oh, and the folks driving by seemed to appreciate us being there.

Bless you and all who live in Eclectic Ladyland.

372 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:49:10pm

re: #354 Dark_Falcon

I have a degree in Political Science. I should have majored in something else. Any ideas on how I could get election work this year to tide me over?

Pick a campaign. Make yourself invaluable with volunteer night and weekend work. Push to be picked up as a mainline employee. A lot of the work in campaigns is to contact whales and wheedle money. You are a salesman. If you get the schtick down and make the cold calls that end end up in results, you are gold.

373 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:49:30pm

re: #361 austin_blue

Well, no.

"The Bible says it, I believe it, and that settles it."

The problem is that Texas is such a huge market for textbooks that this is the crap that is coming to your kids in the future.

Moreover, California, which normally balances Texas out, is not going to be buying any textbooks for several years due to its effective bankruptcy. So the influence of these standards will be even greater than normal.

374 avanti  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:49:39pm

re: #364 swamprat

Yes and the tubing tied to the front set is a failed bar that bent.
This thing is slid under some object, and then toggled so that the middle part becomes parallel to the ground.
Looks like a factory tooling... but why not design it with automobile tires?

Just checked with the owner, the wheels and tires are probably just mock ups, unless it's design to roll on something very soft.

"I think that may be a little more on the right track, just one problem with that. This cart appears to be for light weight use. The axles are doll rod and the tires are basically the same thing as packing foam that you find in boxes."

375 The Left  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:49:40pm

re: #344 SanFranciscoZionist

"The board adds Bill Martin Jr. back to the Grade 3 standards. The board had removed the author of the children’s book “Brown Bear, Brown Bear” in January, mistaking him for a man with the same name who had written a book on Marxism."

The board isn't very bright. This is the impression I am getting here.

Obviously they confused him with the author of that well known commie children's classic, "Red Bear, Red Bear".

376 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:49:59pm

re: #372 austin_blue

Pick a campaign. Make yourself invaluable with volunteer night and weekend work. Push to be picked up as a mainline employee. A lot of the work in campaigns is to contact whales and wheedle money. You are a salesman. If you get the schtick down and make the cold calls that end end up in results, you are gold.

Thanks, I'll try that.

377 windhorse  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:50:00pm

my guess on the pic....


[Link: www.patentstorm.us...]

378 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:50:47pm

re: #367 SanFranciscoZionist

Thanks! (Giggling now.)

I propose a new definition of BMI: Brain Mass Index.

Anyone under a certain minimum does not get to make decisions affecting other people's health.

379 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:51:06pm

re: #368 negativ

Please tell me you've seen "South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut", the movie that should have won every single Oscar that year...

never heard of it

380 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:51:54pm

re: #373 Dark_Falcon

Moreover, California, which normally balances Texas out, is not going to be buying any textbooks for several years due to its effective bankruptcy. So the influence of these standards will be even greater than normal.

Yup. Loons in the chicken coop.

I mourn for the education of the yoots in my state.

381 webevintage  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:52:28pm

re: #370 simoom

The weirdest part of today's meeting was the Paulian Fed/Gold Standard shout-out.

Yeah...and this:

12:28 – Board member Mavis Knight offers the following amendment: “examine the reasons the Founding Fathers protected religious freedom in America by barring government from promoting or disfavoring any particular religion over all others.” Knight points out that students should understand that the Founders believed religious freedom was so important that they insisted on separation of church and state.

12:32 – Board member Cynthia Dunbar argues that the Founders didn’t intend for separation of church and state in America. And she’s off on a long lecture about why the Founders intended to promote religion. She calls this amendment “not historically accurate.”

12:35 – Knight’s amendment fails on a straight party-line vote, 5-10. Republicans vote no, Democrats vote yes.

12:38 – Let the word go out here: The Texas State Board of Education today refused to require that students learn that the Constitution prevents the U.S. government from promoting one religion over all others. They voted to lie to students by omission.

382 swamprat  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:53:38pm

re: #374 avanti


This was probably not for use. This was likely a mockup to get the geometry correct
.

383 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:54:40pm

re: #381 webevintage

Yeah...and this:

12:28 – Board member Mavis Knight offers the following amendment: “examine the reasons the Founding Fathers protected religious freedom in America by barring government from promoting or disfavoring any particular religion over all others.” Knight points out that students should understand that the Founders believed religious freedom was so important that they insisted on separation of church and state.

12:32 – Board member Cynthia Dunbar argues that the Founders didn’t intend for separation of church and state in America. And she’s off on a long lecture about why the Founders intended to promote religion. She calls this amendment “not historically accurate.”

12:35 – Knight’s amendment fails on a straight party-line vote, 5-10. Republicans vote no, Democrats vote yes.

12:38 – Let the word go out here: The Texas State Board of Education today refused to require that students learn that the Constitution prevents the U.S. government from promoting one religion over all others. They voted to lie to students by omission.

That's a horror. These "standards" reflect nothing but a narrow lobby's determination to drown out all competing views.

384 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:54:43pm

re: #354 Dark_Falcon

I have a degree in Political Science. I should have majored in something else. Any ideas on how I could get election work this year to tide me over?

You can still fool some of the people some of the time with a Poli-Sci degree. On the other hand, about the only thing more laughable than a Computer Science degree (unless it's from MIT or Stanford, no exceptions) is a CompTIA A+ or MSCA cert.

385 swamprat  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:56:28pm

re: #374 avanti

Tires that big say "airplane" or "farm implement".

386 avanti  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:58:47pm

re: #377 windhorse

my guess on the pic...

[Link: www.patentstorm.us...]

You might be on to something. Maybe it rides on a conveyor, than is wheeled off, who knows ?

387 avanti  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 9:59:21pm

re: #382 swamprat

This was probably not for use. This was likely a mockup to get the geometry correct
.

I agree.

388 swamprat  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:00:49pm

re: #385 swamprat

Could be something as simple as a mockup of a tool to move very heavy duty tires. Or a planned part of a fledgling robotics assembly.

389 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:01:05pm

tax time!...April 15th is right around the corner!....time to fulfill your social contract!

390 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:01:17pm

re: #344 SanFranciscoZionist

"The board adds Bill Martin Jr. back to the Grade 3 standards. The board had removed the author of the children’s book “Brown Bear, Brown Bear” in January, mistaking him for a man with the same name who had written a book on Marxism."

The board isn't very bright. This is the impression I am getting here.

How glib! How naive! You have no idea of the danger posed by bears and marxists working together! I've done the research!

391 simoom  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:02:03pm

re: #381 webevintage

Looks like the ADL responded to that particular Seperation of Church and State amendment's failing to pass:
[Link: www.statesman.com...]

The vote also drew a heated objection from the Anti-Defamation League, an organization that fights against anti-Semitism.

"The leaders who created our system of government were all too familiar with religious oppression and its consequences, and that influenced the principles on which they founded this nation," said Karen Gross, the Austin community director for the organization. "We believe that's a critical part of American history which Texas school children should learn and understand."

392 swamprat  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:02:30pm

re: #389 albusteve

Time to go to bed!


Night all.

393 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:03:10pm

re: #390 goddamnedfrank

How glib! How naive! You have no idea of the danger posed by bears and marxists working together! I've done the research!

YOWZSA!

394 BryanS  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:03:53pm

re: #378 Cato the Elder

I propose a new definition of BMI: Brain Mass Index.

Anyone under a certain minimum does not get to make decisions affecting other people's health.

Hmm. How would anything get done by the politicians in office in DC? Oh, never mind.

395 windhorse  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:04:14pm

the axles are mighty small diameter...

396 albusteve  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:04:45pm

taxes...heh
I'm out like Buster Mathis...
Social Security rules!

397 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:05:07pm

re: #326 simoom

Has anyone been following the Texas State Board of Education debate today? Some excerpts from the TFN liveblogging.

Swapping out Thomas Jefferson for St. Thomas Aquinas:

It's absurd. Aquinas in the Summa Contra Gentiles and the Summa Theoligica spent the majority of his time refuting Aristotle and commenting on core values of Christian values (this was before the Schism) of the nature of God, the Trinity, &c.

Jesuit education!

398 BryanS  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:06:33pm

re: #384 negativ

You can still fool some of the people some of the time with a Poli-Sci degree. On the other hand, about the only thing more laughable than a Computer Science degree (unless it's from MIT or Stanford, no exceptions) is a CompTIA A+ or MSCA cert.

If anything, putting the CompTIA A+ in particular on a resume earns negative points in my book.

399 Gus  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:06:34pm

re: #386 avanti

You might be on to something. Maybe it rides on a conveyor, than is wheeled off, who knows ?

Could it be related to CTL?

400 avanti  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:06:51pm

re: #395 windhorse

the axles are mighty small diameter...

They are obviously just mockups, perhaps the whole thing is, just to get the shape right.

401 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:08:11pm

re: #390 goddamnedfrank

How glib! How naive! You have no idea of the danger posed by bears and marxists working together! I've done the research!

Yum..

402 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:09:18pm

re: #397 austin_blue

It's absurd. Aquinas in the Summa Contra Gentiles and the Summa Theoligica spent the majority of his time refuting Aristotle and commenting on core values of Christian values (this was before the Schism) of the nature of God, the Trinity, &c.

Jesuit education!

It's a determination to focus only on Christian scholars to the exclusion of all others.

403 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:10:09pm

re: #389 albusteve

tax time!...April 15th is right around the corner!...time to fulfill your social contract!

Yes, and given the combination of payroll and income taxes, you and I are fulfilling much more, as a percentage, of the Social Contract than folks who blow our doors off in income.

Have any idea how much the top 3% *don't* pay in Social Security taxes as a percentage than we do? It's capped at an income about $110,000.

We are but pawns in a game rigged for the rich.

404 Cato the Elder  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:10:46pm

re: #397 austin_blue

It's absurd. Aquinas in the Summa Contra Gentiles and the Summa Theoligica spent the majority of his time refuting Aristotle and commenting on core values of Christian values (this was before the Schism) of the nature of God, the Trinity, &c.

Jesuit education!

Kids today should be so lucky to get a Jesuit education.

Look what it did for James Joyce!

405 ryannon  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:12:07pm

re: #355 negativ

Today's porn is horrible and worthless. I like the utterly ridiculous stuff from the 70s and early 80s when they at least made a pretense of making an actual movie. Totally stupid plotlines, and dialog & acting so terrible that not even MST3K could do anything with it. And absurdly gratuitous sex. Most everything Ron Jeremy ever did fits that description. I also once saw a really "good" French one called "Les petites écolières".

Nowadays, it's just generic plastic chicks, musclebound steroid freaks, a rented mansion, a couple of lights and a DV camcorder. Empty and soulless, just like the people who produce it.

There was a magic period in the late seventies through the end of the eighties when French porn flicks were at the top of their game - and much better than anything else.

All porn is bullshit anyway, but it's like fast food: none of it's good for you, but since you're gonna eat it anyway, might as well acknowledge that Whataburger is objectively better than McDonald's.

Or something.

406 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:13:32pm

re: #339 Charles

It's horrible and disgusting what's going on in Texas this week.

You have a gift for understatement. However, I truly am at a loss for words myself.

407 austin_blue  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:13:37pm

re: #404 Cato the Elder

Kids today should be so lucky to get a Jesuit education.

Look what it did for James Joyce!

Sure. Bloom in Love.

;-)

And with that dear Lizards, adios, adieu, aloha, sleep well and sweet dreams.

408 BryanS  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:14:57pm

re: #403 austin_blue

Yes, and given the combination of payroll and income taxes, you and I are fulfilling much more, as a percentage, of the Social Contract than folks who blow our doors off in income.

Have any idea how much the top 3% *don't* pay in Social Security taxes as a percentage than we do? It's capped at an income about $110,000.

We are but pawns in a game rigged for the rich.

Or how much people make who do not get paid via a payroll check.

But social security sometimes gets sold as a payback of what has been contributed over one's lifetime. We could of course drop all pretense and just call it a welfare program--but the Dems are afraid then social security would hot have as much support.

409 jeremy0114  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:15:05pm

re: #339 Charles

Pretty soon reasonable people in Texas will have to home school their kids... So they LEARN science!

410 laZardo  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:15:24pm

re: #397 austin_blue

It's absurd. Aquinas in the Summa Contra Gentiles and the Summa Theoligica spent the majority of his time refuting Aristotle and commenting on core values of Christian values (this was before the Schism) of the nature of God, the Trinity, &c.

Jesuit education!

My college has a rivalry with the Jesuit college in Manila. It's our "Michigan vs. Ohio State."

411 BryanS  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:16:52pm

re: #409 jeremy0114

Pretty soon reasonable people in Texas will have to home school their kids... So they LEARN science!

What I don't understand about those who want to teach religious dogma in school is why they feel it necessary to "teach" faith.

412 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:17:19pm

re: #339 Charles

It's horrible and disgusting what's going on in Texas this week.

A great many of these people would agree.

413 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:18:46pm

Aquinas is brilliant. He should be required as part of the education curriculum, along with Rambam whom he adored and "borrowed" from greatly and Aristotle, Plato and Socrates and in particular Locke, Hobbes and Rousseau.

Certainly Jefferson, Adams, Washington and Franklin to name a few studied these men.

Then you teach the children how these philosophies were synthesized by the founding fathers - and produced the notion of checks and balances with an absolute separation between Church and State.

That would be a real education.

The game that the people on the school boards are playing is that if you can not defeat logic, define away logic. If you can not defeat the superior argument, lie about it and pretend it does not exist.

414 jeremy0114  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:19:04pm

re: #411 BryanS

Further than that... why would any organized religion want to shed the responsibility of indoctrination of the youth to the schools? You would think they would want complete control of their message...

415 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:20:28pm

re: #413 LudwigVanQuixote

PIMF commas are important!

Aquinas is brilliant. He should be required as part of the education curriculum, along with Rambam whom he adored and "borrowed" from greatly, as well as Aristotle, Plato and Socrates and in particular Locke, Hobbes and Rousseau.

Certainly Jefferson, Adams, Washington and Franklin to name a few studied these men.

Then you teach the children how these philosophies were synthesized by the founding fathers - and produced the notion of checks and balances with an absolute separation between Church and State.

That would be a real education.

The game that the people on the school boards are playing is that if you can not defeat logic, define away logic. If you can not defeat the superior argument, lie about it and pretend it does not exist.

416 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:21:18pm

re: #412 negativ

Though these people wouldn't the assholes who really started this shit:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Anyone who wants to know the particular history of this textbook propaganda should read about them.

Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose

417 BryanS  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:21:58pm

re: #414 jeremy0114

Further than that... why would any organized religion want to shed the responsibility of indoctrination of the youth to the schools? You would think they would want complete control of their message...

Sounds like that's what some in Texas are trying to do. I always thought that if "teach the controversy about evolution" were to be taken on seriously using the tools of science to critique creationism according to real standards of science, then creationists would all of a sudden want to keep their ideas out of the classroom.

418 ryannon  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:23:29pm

re: #372 austin_blue

Pick a campaign. Make yourself invaluable with volunteer night and weekend work. Push to be picked up as a mainline employee. A lot of the work in campaigns is to contact whales and wheedle money. You are a salesman. If you get the schtick down and make the cold calls that end end up in results, you are gold.

And if you run into a lush blond campaign coordinator named Betsy, avoid her like the plague.

419 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:23:38pm

re: #413 LudwigVanQuixote

Aquinas is brilliant. He should be required as part of the education curriculum, along with Rambam whom he adored and "borrowed" from greatly and Aristotle, Plato and Socrates and in particular Locke, Hobbes and Rousseau.

Certainly Jefferson, Adams, Washington and Franklin to name a few studied these men.

Then you teach the children how these philosophies were synthesized by the founding fathers - and produced the notion of checks and balances with an absolute separation between Church and State.

That would be a real education.

The game that the people on the school boards are playing is that if you can not defeat logic, define away logic. If you can not defeat the superior argument, lie about it and pretend it does not exist.

that and the fact that they're out after the general election. Several of the more radically right-wing board members lost their primary fights but are still in office till the general elections that are still more than 7 months away. Thus they feel free to let their freak flag fly, since public hostility cannot effect them now.

420 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:23:46pm

re: #415 LudwigVanQuixote

You'll note that those two textbook defacing assholes are heavily criticized by one PZ Myers.

[Link: scienceblogs.com...]


That guy.

421 laZardo  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:26:33pm

Back to internship now.

Yes, I finally scored a company. :D

422 Bagua  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:27:23pm

re: #382 swamprat

This was probably not for use. This was likely a mockup to get the geometry correct
.

Little Cars Come First.

New cars don’t jump from the drafting board to production line. Models of numbers of variations are built, a choice made, and all details studied.

- 1947 article on Studebaker design process.

423 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:29:44pm

For any gamers:

This looks freaking awesome.

[Link: www.rockpapershotgun.com...]

424 Bagua  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:32:14pm

re: #400 avanti

They are obviously just mockups, perhaps the whole thing is, just to get the shape right.

Model for the Novi

425 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:32:52pm

re: #419 Dark_Falcon

that and the fact that they're out after the general election. Several of the more radically right-wing board members lost their primary fights but are still in office till the general elections that are still more than 7 months away. Thus they feel free to let their freak flag fly, since public hostility cannot effect them now.

To carry the argument from reading the Republic and Locke and Hobbes and Rousseau... Democracy fails when the people are not worthy of it.

Democracy fails when they elect madmen.

While I am all for democracy and would not like t see it replaced, the limitation of the system is that the stupid vote too - and for stupid things for stupid reasons.

The Founding Fathers were well aware of this. They fully understood the notion of the "tyranny of the majority."

If I had my way, and I were building a nation and a system of government, I would take a page from Heinlein.

You can have all the benefits of citizenship except voting, unless you serve society in some way.

I would not limit it to military service, I would include as many different types of service as possible - from a year helping in a nursing home to teaching, to being a fireman. It would be completely voluntary. If you don't do this sort of thing, no penalty, go out, have your day job, live your life, but you do not get a voice in a society you did not care about to serve.

At that point, everyone who votes has a real idea of what the problems society faces are - and more importantly, already proved that they gave a damn about more than just themselves.

426 Obdicut  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:36:11pm

re: #425 LudwigVanQuixote

Socialism of government, in a way. Heh.

I'm torn, because to me the consent of the governed is really, really important, but if everyone has a chance to participate, if no one is excluded, it doesn't actually remove the right, it just complicates it.

Ah well, given that we're talking up a rainbow here, I can endorse it.

I'll inform the newspapers.

427 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:38:38pm

re: #141 WindUpBird

I think porn is awesome. People like fucking and they like movies and art. So there's movies and art about fucking.

And really, some pople could use some corrupting. :D

Ever seen a film called "Malice in Lalaland"? Won't link, but it's easy enough to search. Haven't seen it myself, but it obviously isn't typical of the genre. The trailer makes it look like there is an actual plot/storyline worth watching beyond just the dirty parts.

428 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:43:16pm

re: #425 LudwigVanQuixote

That view has a good bit to recommend it. Not sure if I truly favor it, but it is a good idea.

429 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:51:13pm

re: #368 negativ

Please tell me you've seen "South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut", the movie that should have won every single Oscar that year...

I went to see that five times in the opening week. The first time to see the film, the other four times to see the audience reactions. It's a tough call deciding which was more fun.

One time, this guy busted up laughing at (NSFW) the gag at the 0:43 mark in that link, and his girlfriend lost her shit and hit him hard several times. He kept laughing.

430 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:52:31pm

re: #413 LudwigVanQuixote

Aquinas is brilliant. He should be required as part of the education curriculum, along with Rambam whom he adored and "borrowed" from greatly and Aristotle, Plato and Socrates and in particular Locke, Hobbes and Rousseau.

Also, while Martin Luther thought heretics should be tortured and then executed, (he was particularly fond of breaking on the wheel), the good St. Thomas believed it was best to skip the torture and go straight to the executions.

431 freetoken  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:57:17pm

From now on, I'm going to refer to that State as "Texastan".

432 lostlakehiker  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 10:58:29pm

re: #403 austin_blue

Yes, and given the combination of payroll and income taxes, you and I are fulfilling much more, as a percentage, of the Social Contract than folks who blow our doors off in income.

Have any idea how much the top 3% *don't* pay in Social Security taxes as a percentage than we do? It's capped at an income about $110,000.

We are but pawns in a game rigged for the rich.

Oh dear. Yes, the rich don't pay social security taxes on the bulk of their bulky income. But they do pay federal income tax. Big time. The top few percent of earners pay about half the taxes. If not for their hefty earnings and the taxes that go with such earnings, us somewhat-above-average earnings types would have to pay double what we pay now, to make up the gap.

There are valid criticisms to be leveled at the rich, but the charge that they don't pay their fair share of the overall tax burden is way off base. If we put taxes much higher, going on past experience, the next generation of rich-in-the-making will conclude that being rich is impossible because working like a horse to get rich enriches only the government.

With the exception of the Jeff Skillings and Bernie Madoffs, (outright criminals), and the John Edwards and Al Gores (whose wealth flows, in barely legal ways, from being connected rather than from doing useful work), today's rich are doing the rest of us many favors. They invent stuff. They make our economy more productive. They hire people. They doctor us and entertain us. And they pay taxes that would otherwise fall on us.

433 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 11:05:22pm

re: #431 freetoken

From now on, I'm going to refer to that State as "Texastan".

A better name would be "The Democratic People's Republic of Texas, Amen"

It pays homage to the similarity between Rick Perry's flamboyant hairdo and Kim Jong Il's.

434 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 11:19:41pm

re: #432 lostlakehiker

With the exception of the Jeff Skillings and Bernie Madoffs, (outright criminals), and the John Edwards and Al Gores (whose wealth flows, in barely legal ways, from being connected rather than from doing useful work), today's rich are doing the rest of us many favors.

Congratulations; you've just described 99% of "the rich".

They invent stuff.

Name three of "the rich" who ever invented anything. No fair naming people who invented something and thereafter became rich.

They make our economy more productive.


Of COURSE efficiency goes up when you shitcan 5 Americans and replace them with 2 Chinese whose combined monthly pay is ALMOST what an American worker would take home in a week.

They hire people. They doctor us and entertain us. And they pay taxes that would otherwise fall on us.

Read that about 10 times, and then explain to me why it's so important to you that we express proper gratitude to our betters.

435 freetoken  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 11:25:54pm

re: #434 negativ

Name three of "the rich" who ever invented anything.

Well, George Soros created the Obama administration.

/oohhh

436 simoom  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 11:27:05pm

re: #433 negativ

A better name would be "The Democratic People's Republic of Texas, Amen"

You're forgetting this:

1:02 – Now Dunbar moves to replace “democratic republic” to “constitutional republic” in referring to U.S. government throughout all of the social studies standards.

So:
"The Democratic Constitutional People's Republic of Texas, Amen"

437 freetoken  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 11:28:39pm

re: #436 simoom

Texastan.

438 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 11:35:49pm

LOL, es La República de Texas pendajos.

439 simoom  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 11:40:30pm

re: #416 Obdicut

Though these people wouldn't the assholes who really started this shit:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Anyone who wants to know the particular history of this textbook propaganda should read about them.

Thanks for the Mel and Norma Gabler link, I found the article fascinating and also this one linked from it on the 1974 Kanawha County textbook controversy:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

The boycott escalated quickly. 9,000 out of 45,000 elementary school students in the county were kept home from school. Thousands of miners, bus drivers, and trucking workers joined in the boycott. The Department of Education called for a compromise, but Reverend Horan denounced them, demanding that the boycott continue until the books were permanently removed and the supporting members of the school board fired. Bombs were planted at an elementary school and a school board building; another elementary school was dynamited, school buses were attacked with shotguns, and the homes of children who continued to attend school during the boycott were stoned. Alice Moore herself fled town during this point.

Reverend Charles Qugiley asked Christians to pray that God would kill the three board members who voted to keep the books, leading one student to point out, "They're shooting people because they don't want to see violence in books." Kanawha's sheriff asked for state troopers to be sent in, but West Virginia Governor Arch A. Moore, Jr. denied the request. Schools were closed several times to avoid further violence.

Wow.

440 RadicalModerate  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 11:42:24pm

Decided to read up on the bios of the folks responsible for the Texas State Board of Education's attempted dumbing down of millions of students, and came across this one:

Terri Leo - SBOE District 6

She is a charter member of the Cherry Tree Republicans and the Texas Tea Party Republican Women's Club; a dual member of Daughters of Liberty Republican Women's Club; and a member of the Northwest Forest Republican Women's Club.

She's bragging of being a charter member of the teabagger movement.

Here's the directory of all members

441 freetoken  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 11:45:48pm

re: #439 simoom

Texastan. WestVAstan...

They'll use their guns to enforce their religion, if need be.

442 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Mar 11, 2010 11:58:48pm

re: #196 Dark_Falcon

And to think that I once admired that horse's ass.

Likewise...the batshit crazy bastard (and most of his fellow travelers in the Legion of the Banned) has burned up any respect I had for them.

Shit like this makes me despise them...

443 Jadespring  Fri, Mar 12, 2010 4:54:11am

Morning All


And sorry to hear about your troubles CCA. :(

444 sffilk  Fri, Mar 12, 2010 7:41:14am

re: #10 Charles

That would be telling, wouldn't it?

You're not Number 2, are you? (hehe)


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