1 Querent  Wed, Apr 7, 2010 10:54:32pm

the road unwinds toward me
what was there is gone
the road unwinds before me
and i go riding on…

rush but not limbaugh

2 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Apr 7, 2010 10:57:44pm

re: #1 Querent

the road unwinds toward me
what was there is gone
the road unwinds before me
and i go riding on…

rush but not limbaugh

Cheers for that! I have pretty much all of Hemispheres and Moving Pictures imprinted in my DNA :D

3 freetoken  Wed, Apr 7, 2010 10:58:11pm

Are those smokestacks in the distance I see,
More CO2 for you and me?
Perchance they are harbor lights,
For lovers on moon-less nights?

4 sagehen  Wed, Apr 7, 2010 11:00:52pm

Deep water and unpredictible conditions on the right; solid ground on the left; and a punnish reference to driving (to go forward put it in D, backwards is R)….

Yay for invented symbolism.

5 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Apr 7, 2010 11:01:56pm

You were up EARLY to get a clear shot of that stretch of the bike path!
Beautiful!

6 lostlakehiker  Wed, Apr 7, 2010 11:06:52pm

What’s the point of vanishing?

7 teleskiguy  Wed, Apr 7, 2010 11:13:52pm

This picture drips with irony! Very cool! What are those smokestacks on the left?

8 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Apr 7, 2010 11:17:45pm

re: #7 teleskiguy

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

You can see the smokestacks in the pictures.

9 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Apr 7, 2010 11:22:23pm

My pillow is just begging to be listened to.
Good night, all.

10 Querent  Wed, Apr 7, 2010 11:23:02pm

re: #2 windupbird

Cheers for that! I have pretty much all of Hemispheres and Moving Pictures imprinted in my DNA :D

i have at present a 6-CD player in the car i’m using, loaded with…
Retrospective - Power Windows - Hold Your Fire - Test For Echo - Vapor Trails - Snakes Etc. Hit Random…

Funny, i thought i had more Rush CDs than those, but that seems to be it. Guess i’ll have to do some digging at the used-record stores in the future.

11 Querent  Wed, Apr 7, 2010 11:24:38pm

re: #4 sagehen

Deep water and unpredictible conditions on the right; solid ground on the left; and a punnish reference to driving (to go forward put it in D, backwards is R)…

Yay for invented symbolism.


you’re not going to deconstruct the picture, are you?

12 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Apr 7, 2010 11:24:59pm

re: #10 Querent

i have at present a 6-CD player in the car i’m using, loaded with…
Retrospective - Power Windows - Hold Your Fire - Test For Echo - Vapor Trails - Snakes Etc. Hit Random…

Funny, i thought i had more Rush CDs than those, but that seems to be it. Guess i’ll have to do some digging at the used-record stores in the future.

I’m not nearly as big a fan of the 80’s synth heavy Rush era, most of my music collection is metal. The sweet spot for me is Permanent Waves, Hemispheres, Moving Pictures. I like Presto and Counterparts as well. ^^ Test For Echo was the tour I saw them live.

13 sagehen  Wed, Apr 7, 2010 11:28:29pm

re: #11 Querent

you’re not going to deconstruct the picture, are you?


Another drink, and I can find subliminal imagery in the clouds…

14 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Apr 7, 2010 11:33:09pm

re: #13 sagehen

Another drink, and I can find subliminal imagery in the clouds…

Widmer W-10 Cascade Dark Ale here. :D

15 TedStriker  Wed, Apr 7, 2010 11:36:24pm

re: #7 teleskiguy

This picture drips with irony! Very cool! What are those smokestacks on the left?

Looks like a refinery, perhaps…

16 Querent  Wed, Apr 7, 2010 11:48:32pm

re: #13 sagehen

Another drink, and I can find subliminal imagery in the clouds…

well then here, have this sixpack.

17 Querent  Wed, Apr 7, 2010 11:49:27pm

re: #12 WindUpBird

I’m not nearly as big a fan of the 80’s synth heavy Rush era, most of my music collection is metal. The sweet spot for me is Permanent Waves, Hemispheres, Moving Pictures. I like Presto and Counterparts as well. ^^ Test For Echo was the tour I saw them live.


i’ll sing anything they’ve done — i consider Geddy one of my singing teachers.

(Never be ashamed of the sound of your own voice!)

18 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Apr 7, 2010 11:52:26pm

re: #17 Querent

i’ll sing anything they’ve done — i consider Geddy one of my singing teachers.

(Never be ashamed of the sound of your own voice!)

I sing, and yeah, it’s true, don’t try and push your voice to do things it wasn’t meant for.

My singing voice is is subterranean compared to geddy, it’s more like this:

19 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Apr 7, 2010 11:53:10pm

re: #17 Querent

i’ll sing anything they’ve done — i consider Geddy one of my singing teachers.

(Never be ashamed of the sound of your own voice!)

And the other question is, can you do a good Temple of Syrinx shriek? :D

20 Querent  Wed, Apr 7, 2010 11:55:47pm

re: #19 WindUpBird

And the other question is, can you do a good Temple of Syrinx shriek? :D

When i’m warmed up!

But on the phone i’ve been mistaken for a man more times than i can count. I joke that i sing tenor! Without any hormones even…

21 Querent  Wed, Apr 7, 2010 11:56:35pm

re: #20 Querent
but certainly, not when behind the wheel of a moving automobile.

Don’t want to frighten my fellow drivers!

22 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Apr 7, 2010 11:57:40pm

re: #21 Querent

but certainly, not when behind the wheel of a moving automobile.

Don’t want to frighten my fellow drivers!

I do all my best singing behind the wheel, or at karaoke.

And I’m probably ruining what little voice I have by insisting on singing death metal. :D

23 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Apr 7, 2010 11:57:50pm

This post made me really like Irshad Manji even more.

24 Querent  Wed, Apr 7, 2010 11:58:02pm

well let’s see… looks like i’ve shut down two threads. All in all a good evening’s work… oops, there’s another comment.

25 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Apr 7, 2010 11:58:25pm

re: #23 Obdicut

I was ever so slightly disappointed at the Rick Warren namedrop, but she seems really cool.

26 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Apr 7, 2010 11:58:49pm

re: #24 Querent

well let’s see… looks like i’ve shut down two threads. All in all a good evening’s work… oops, there’s another comment.

You can’t shut me down, I’m just getting started!

27 Querent  Wed, Apr 7, 2010 11:59:30pm

re: #22 WindUpBird
yeay death metal!!

which reminds me i need to find one more Judas Priest CD to make a 6-pack.

Until then i keep adding Ozzy to the mix ‘cause i figure they’ll enjoy each others’ company.

28 Varek Raith  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 12:02:44am

Good grief. Catching up on some of today’s threads…. Didn’t expect to see freaking CSA supporters…
:/

29 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 12:03:43am

re: #28 Varek Raith

Good grief. Catching up on some of today’s threads… Didn’t expect to see freaking CSA supporters…
:/

There’s some fucked up people :(

30 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 12:08:32am

re: #27 Querent

The Priest album that is essential for me is Screaming for Vengeance, which you probably already have. And as long as you have Blizzard of Ozz and Diary, hey, you’re gold :D

31 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 12:09:51am

re: #23 Obdicut

This post made me really like Irshad Manji even more.

Irshad is just way cool.

32 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 12:33:53am

and goodnight for me.

Tiring-ass day.

33 freetoken  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 12:48:49am

re: #28 Varek Raith

Good grief. Catching up on some of today’s threads… Didn’t expect to see freaking CSA supporters…
:/

34 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:27:47am

OK, gonna get some sleep soon.

35 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:42:15am

Rudy Guiliani: Weapons grade dumbfuck [Link: theplumline.whorunsgov.com…]

36 freetoken  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 1:47:52am
37 teleskiguy  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 2:10:24am

This photo is one of the good reasons I love LGF. Thank you Charles.

38 freetoken  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:20:56am
39 RogueOne  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 3:41:50am

re: #23 Obdicut

re: #31 SanFranciscoZionist

Irshad is just way cool.

She’s doing important work, and I wish her the best of luck, but she’s fighting a losing battle.

40 Tigger2005  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 4:14:50am

Speaking of perspective…I work for a prayer ministry, and we got a prayer request the other day from a fellow in India who said he’s seen videos of American soldiers beating and torturing women and children, and wanted us to pray for the victims and for the American army to repent, etc. Obviously the videos are fakes, and probably very poorly done…but people are all too willing to believe stuff like that, and Obama becoming President hasn’t changed anything.

41 Sigma_x  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 4:26:40am

Is that Malibu?

42 Sigma_x  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 4:27:10am

Nevermind, Mailbu doesn’t have smokestacks, last time I checked.

43 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 4:35:26am

re: #42 Sigma_x

I think it is looking from Manhattan Beach down toward Hermosa Beach.

44 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 4:38:14am

Morning Honcos!!

45 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 4:39:01am

Good morning. Got up early, too much silence in the house. All the kids have gone home and it’s real quiet now.

46 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 4:40:41am

re: #45 Alouette

Good morning. Got up early, too much silence in the house. All the kids have gone home and it’s real quiet now.

I love silence. I can sit at my house with no TV, internet or radio for days and just think.

47 freetoken  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 4:49:45am

re: #44 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #45 Alouette

48 sandbox  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 4:49:50am

re: #35 WindUpBird

I agree with Guiliani’s critique of Obama’s announcement re nuke weapons. Further if the US or its allies are attacked by biological or chemical weapons, why shouldn’t we reserve the option to retaliate with nuclear weapons.?

49 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 4:51:59am

The result is a tax system that exempts almost half the country from paying for programs that benefit everyone, including national defense, public safety, infrastructure and education. It is a system in which the top 10 percent of earners — households making an average of $366,400 in 2006 — paid about 73 percent of the income taxes collected by the federal government.

[Link: finance.yahoo.com…]

50 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 4:52:55am

re: #49 Cannadian Club Akbar

I’m sure that is fair.

Ahem.

/

51 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 4:56:09am

re: #50 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I’m sure that is fair.

Ahem.

/

In 2007, about 38 percent of households paid no federal income tax, a figure that jumped to 49 percent in 2008, according to estimates by the Tax Policy Center

From the linky.

52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 4:57:50am

re: #51 Cannadian Club Akbar

They count lottery tickets in that?

53 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 4:58:42am

re: #52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

They count lottery tickets in that?

I love the lottery. Tax the poor and they are to stupid to see it that way.

54 Sigma_x  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:02:27am

I have a question - how come Hotair.com and michellemalkin.com’s registration are ALWAYS closed? I’ve been trying/hoping to register on both those sites for well over a year now, and they. are. always. closed. Period.

It would have anything to do with attempting to stifle debate now, would it? I couldn’t imagine they’d do such a thing.

From what I’ve noticed, both of them have exactly ONE “liberal” or dissenting voice registered, and it’s really more like a caricature of a dissenting voice; more like straight guy in a comedy from the 1930’s. In fact, I’m pretty sure that on Malkin’s site the “dissenting voice” is actually a right-winger in disguise, because the shit that comes out of his/her mouth is so lame as to be cringe-inducing. As if it were like, “See, we let one of you on here and you just continue to make a jackass out of yourself.”

I really wish I could register. I realize I’d probably only last 1/2 a day. But it’d be worth it just to TRY and throw some reality into the mix over there.

55 freetoken  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:03:16am

news update:

Law firm: Diplomat released after plane bomb scare


A law firm representing the Qatar embassy says the diplomat who prompted an airplane bomb scare has been released by authorities after questioning.
A spokesperson for the firm Brown Lloyd James said Thursday the diplomat was on his way back to Washington.

In a statement, Qatar’s ambassador to the U.S. said the diplomat was traveling from Washington to Denver on business and didn’t do anything threatening.

Authorities speaking on condition of anonymity said they don’t think the man was trying to hurt anyone and he won’t be charged with a crime.

Two law enforcement officials say suspicions arose when the man apparently tried to sneak a smoke in the airplane bathroom. They say he was asked about the smoky smell and joked about trying to light his shoes — leading air marshals to restrain him.

56 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:03:32am

Obama has pushed tax cuts for low- and middle-income families and tax increases for the wealthy, arguing that wealthier taxpayers fared well in the past decade, so it’s time to pay up. The nation’s wealthiest taxpayers did get big tax breaks under Bush, with the top marginal tax rate reduced from 39.6 percent to 35 percent, and the second-highest rate reduced from 36 percent to 33 percent.

But income tax rates were lowered at every income level. The changes made it relatively easy for families of four making $50,000 to eliminate their income tax liability

57 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:04:50am

re: #55 freetoken

Diplomatic Immunity.

58 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:05:25am

re: #55 freetoken

news update:

Law firm: Diplomat released after plane bomb scare

He was just another pampered elite who thought that the airline “no smoking” rule was for everybody else, but not privileged speshul folks like him.

59 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:06:12am

re: #54 Sigma_x

It took me a year to get registered here. Just bad timing with the job I had at the time.

60 freetoken  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:07:42am

re: #54 Sigma_x

Because they are too much of cheap asses to provide monitors for their sites, or they don’t trust enough of their own registrants to be monitors (like LGF does.)

SixDegrees is registered at MM site, and has posted their before.

I am registered at HotAir but haven’t posted anything. KT was of course registered there until his little, um, exercise.

Charles readily bans trolls, the violent, and the deranged. The problem HA faces is that when they do get around to banning the faithful there can object. As for MM’s own site (she sold HA), I can only surmise that she is only interested in having nominal commenters, to fill up space and say she has followers, as opposed to anyone who adds anything original or challenging.

61 reine.de.tout  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:10:04am

re: #54 Sigma_x

I have a question - how come Hotair.com and michellemalkin.com’s registration are ALWAYS closed? I’ve been trying/hoping to register on both those sites for well over a year now, and they. are. always. closed. Period.

It would have anything to do with attempting to stifle debate now, would it? I couldn’t imagine they’d do such a thing.

From what I’ve noticed, both of them have exactly ONE “liberal” or dissenting voice registered, and it’s really more like a caricature of a dissenting voice; more like straight guy in a comedy from the 1930’s. In fact, I’m pretty sure that on Malkin’s site the “dissenting voice” is actually a right-winger in disguise, because the shit that comes out of his/her mouth is so lame as to be cringe-inducing. As if it were like, “See, we let one of you on here and you just continue to make a jackass out of yourself.”

I really wish I could register. I realize I’d probably only last 1/2 a day. But it’d be worth it just to TRY and throw some reality into the mix over there.

As far as I can recall, registration has been open at those places twice since they were created.

They may have plenty of people registered who do not comment. I registered at both places years ago, but I do not comment there; their commenters are not people who are interested in a discussion or a debate and there simply was never any point to making comments there. Your expression “lame” pretty much describes them all, regardless of their political persuasion.

62 Sigma_x  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:10:48am

I just now got banned from posting on theothermccain’s site. He took down this post of mine - the one HE INITIALLY HAD NO PROBLEM POSTING - in which I was trying to goad him into saying something positive about Virginia and the Confederate History Month, and then promptly deleted it and replaced it with this….

Ignore “Forrest,” LTB: on one of my Searchlight posts, the same person commented as “Hugh Jass”:

“Sad. I’ll bet less than 2K people show up. No one rational gives a sh!t, McCain. No one.”

Right. And the most widely-quoted crowd estimate was 9,000-plus. The rest of that comment was so personal as to make me want to spend a minute seeing who owns that address. (He’s referring to where I wrote, in the same post, (“Countdown till your wife leaves you because you have no money and you’re not a real journalist: T-minus 1 year.”)
Deleted. Marked as spam. Troll-hammering is so much fun!

63 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:11:33am

re: #54 Sigma_x

I have a question - how come Hotair.com and michellemalkin.com’s registration are ALWAYS closed? I’ve been trying/hoping to register on both those sites for well over a year now, and they. are. always. closed. Period.

It would have anything to do with attempting to stifle debate now, would it? I couldn’t imagine they’d do such a thing.

From what I’ve noticed, both of them have exactly ONE “liberal” or dissenting voice registered, and it’s really more like a caricature of a dissenting voice; more like straight guy in a comedy from the 1930’s. In fact, I’m pretty sure that on Malkin’s site the “dissenting voice” is actually a right-winger in disguise, because the shit that comes out of his/her mouth is so lame as to be cringe-inducing. As if it were like, “See, we let one of you on here and you just continue to make a jackass out of yourself.”

I really wish I could register. I realize I’d probably only last 1/2 a day. But it’d be worth it just to TRY and throw some reality into the mix over there.

I registered at HotAir during an open reg window a few years ago, posted maybe once or twice.

Never saw an open reg at Michelle’s.

64 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:14:12am

I registered at 1 blog other than this one. Made about 2 comments and haven’t been back. This friggin’ place takes up enough of my time. And it is the smartest blog out there.

65 freetoken  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:16:36am

re: #62 Sigma_x

Well look, if you are going to go on somebody’s own website and challenge them you also have to own the idea that you are on private property. I have no respect for RSM, yet what he chooses to have on his site is his business and while it is certainly fair for me or you or anyone to critique (even pointedly and harshly) what he writes, I don’t expect him to pay for it (which is what a website owner has to do to keep the url and buy hosting services.)

Therein lay a serious problem for the internet taking over the role of the newspaper - holding people accountable for what they write. In a purely digital world it is very easy to just delete the past.

66 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:17:57am

For the love of Pete. Make up my mind.
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk…]

67 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:18:42am

i don’t go to other blogs.

68 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:20:17am

re: #67 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

i don’t go to other blogs.

Suck up!!
//

69 freetoken  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:22:16am

re: #67 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Abstinence is the best policy!

70 Sigma_x  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:24:02am

re: #65 freetoken

Totally agree. However I think it’s more than just a tad insane to go about espousing all this “America, Fuck Yeah!” stuff, and then not allow even a modicum of rational debate. To not allow any dissenting voice to be heard, in any context, at all.

But hypocrisy is just par for the course with those freakazoids. .

As for McCain - I certainly don’t blame him for banning me (shit, I would if I were him.) But he’s such a phenomenal piece of shit that I just literally couldn’t help myself from raking him over the coals a bit.

71 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:24:35am

This is the only English-speaking blog I visit & comment on regularly. I am registered with a German blogsite, [Link: www.gegenstimme.net,…] but it has turned obnoxiously reactionary of late and I hardly post there anymore.

72 freetoken  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:25:47am

re: #70 Sigma_x

I only expect the worst out that crowd.

I’m unlikely to be disappointed.

73 freetoken  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:28:05am

For the iCrowd:

Live: iPhone OS 4.0 preview at Apple headquarters

New operating system version coming. Sure to please even the most snarly of critics, the leaks imply.

74 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:29:06am

re: #55 freetoken

news update:

Law firm: Diplomat released after plane bomb scare

Diplomat immunity?

75 freetoken  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:29:57am

re: #74 NJDhockeyfan

The story did not give enough details.

76 freetoken  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:34:56am

The story implies that he simply won’t be charged because officials do not suspect him of trying to hurt anyone:

No explosives were found and authorities speaking on condition of anonymity said they don’t think he was trying to hurt anyone during Wednesday’s scare and he will not be criminally charged.

Of course smoking on a plane is itself a crime… but I doubt they will charge him for that.

77 reine.de.tout  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:35:22am

re: #76 freetoken

The story implies that he simply won’t be charged because officials do not suspect him of trying to hurt anyone:

Of course smoking on a plane is itself a crime… but I doubt they will charge him for that.

Nor will they charge him for simply being an asshole.

78 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:35:44am

re: #76 freetoken

The story implies that he simply won’t be charged because officials do not suspect him of trying to hurt anyone:

Of course smoking on a plane is itself a crime… but I doubt they will charge him for that.

I bet I would be charged.

79 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:38:08am

Dude should be charged for:
1. Smoking on a plane.
2. Being a Dbag and wasting other people’s time.

80 RogueOne  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:38:26am

re: #77 reine.de.tout

Nor will they charge him for simply being an asshole.

the other passengers should be allowed to slap him around for their inconvenience and his being an asshole.

81 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:39:46am

re: #80 RogueOne

the other passengers should be allowed to slap him around for their inconvenience and his being an asshole.

And he should pay back the money for our military jets having to scramble.

82 freetoken  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:41:22am

The big science news of the day will be the unveiling of the Homo habilis (?) skeleton(s) from South Africa. Because the details have been kept under wraps I’ve not been able to locate a good story to link, but the announcement should stir up the creationists.

83 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:44:03am

I will be surprised if the obnoxious Qatari diplomat doesn’t end up getting a formal apology and a dozen roses. After all, he was a victim of evil racial profiling and satanic Islamophobia.

Good Morning LGF.

84 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:45:29am

re: #76 freetoken

The story implies that he simply won’t be charged because officials do not suspect him of trying to hurt anyone:

Of course smoking on a plane is itself a crime… but I doubt they will charge him for that.


No Charges for Qatar Diplomat After Mid-Air Bomb Scare

The Qatari diplomat who caused a mid-air security scare won’t face charges after claiming he was trying to light his shoes on fire when it appears he was simply smoking in the bathroom.

Federal officials said Mohammed al Modadi was on official business when he boarded United Airlines Flight 663 from Washington to Denver, giving him diplomatic immunity. A law firm spokesman told The Associated Press that al Modadi has been released and was headed back to Washington.

More than 160 passengers and crew were on board when flight attendants noticed smoke coming from the bathroom and notified federal air marshals on the plane, government sources said.

When the marshals demanded to know what he was doing, the man identified himself as a diplomat from Qatar and responded, perhaps sarcastically, “I’m trying to light my shoes on fire.

85 garhighway  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:46:08am

re: #80 RogueOne

the other passengers should be allowed to slap him around for their inconvenience and his being an asshole.

Like that scene in “Airplane!”.

86 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:47:21am

re: #84 NJDhockeyfan

Wow. That guy is really funny. Someone needs a beating.

87 sattv4u2  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:47:40am

The (in)famous SATTV luck continues

Spent most of the last 2 days pressure washing the front porch, driveway and back deck
Planned on spending today losing a half dozen or so golfballs at the local country club

FORECAST ,, thunder storms on and off all day

88 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:48:41am

re: #87 sattv4u2

The (in)famous SATTV luck continues

Spent most of the last 2 days pressure washing the front porch, driveway and back deck
Planned on spending today losing a half dozen or so golfballs at the local country club

FORECAST ,, thunder storms on and off all day

Elitist!!!!!

89 sattv4u2  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:49:30am

re: #87 sattv4u2

((forfot to mention)) Both yesterday and the day before were GORGEOUS

Mid 80’s
Slight breeze
Not a cloud in the sky!

90 sattv4u2  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:49:49am

re: #88 Cannadian Club Akbar

Elitist!!!

Not the way I hack!!

91 Sigma_x  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:51:55am

Apple to demo the new iphone OS 4.0 today live.

[Link: brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com…]

92 sattv4u2  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:52:02am

re: #79 Cannadian Club Akbar

Dude should be charged for:
1. Smoking on a plane.
2. Being a Dbag and wasting other people’s time.


Hell ,, if that were a chargeable crime, we could reduce the deficit in this country in a week by fining people I encounter every day!

93 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:52:29am

re: #90 sattv4u2

Not the way I hack!!

I went golfing with a left handed friend (I am a lefty, but golf righty) and he gave me a club. I hit the ball straight and long. Now I’m confused.

94 sattv4u2  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:53:17am

re: #93 Cannadian Club Akbar

I went golfing with a left handed friend (I am a lefty, but golf righty) and he gave me a club. I hit the ball straight and long. Now I’m confused.

So you go both way!!!

NTTAWWT!

95 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:54:28am

re: #89 sattv4u2

((forfot to mention)) Both yesterday and the day before were GORGEOUS

Mid 80’s
Slight breeze
Not a cloud in the sky!

Rained here all day yesterday. Raining today too, and cold temperatures forecast for the weekend.

I glanced at the backyard and saw that during my grandkids’ visit, on the days it didn’t rain, they pulled out all the logs that the landscapers stacked up at the back of the yard and scattered them everywhere.

Oh great, now the lawn maintenance guys will have to collect and restack the logs before they can mow the yard, and of course they will add an extra charge.

96 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:56:11am

Jimmy Carter’s friends just can’t help themselves…

Hamas to halt rocket attacks on Israel


GAZA CITY, Gaza, April 6 (UPI) — Israel won’t have an excuse to launch a major Gaza offensive because Hamas has decided to continue its suspension of rocket attacks, sources in Gaza City say.

The sources told The Jerusalem Post Hamas and several other Palestinian factions held emergency meetings recently about the need to maintain an unofficial cease-fire.

The groups agreed to stop firing rockets at Israel, the sources told the Post.

One day later…

GAZA CITY, Gaza, April 7 (UPI) — Six Palestinians were injured Wednesday when mortar shells fired at Israel landed instead in Palestinian territory, Gaza emergency sources say.

One of the shells hit a house in the northern Gaza Strip town of Beit Hanoun, starting a small fire, Israel’s Haaretz newspaper reports.

The mortar attack comes just two days after Hamas and three armed Palestinian factions announced a voluntary moratorium on rocket attacks.

97 sattv4u2  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:56:18am

re: #95 Alouette

Rained here all day yesterday. Raining today too, and cold temperatures forecast for the weekend.

I glanced at the backyard and saw that during my grandkids’ visit, on the days it didn’t rain, they pulled out all the logs that the landscapers stacked up at the back of the yard and scattered them everywhere.

Oh great, now the lawn maintenance guys will have to collect and restack the logs before they can mow the yard, and of course they will add an extra charge.

Can you get the grandkids to come over to my house? I have a stack of stuff that has to be moved!

98 reine.de.tout  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:56:35am

re: #95 Alouette

Rained here all day yesterday. Raining today too, and cold temperatures forecast for the weekend.

I glanced at the backyard and saw that during my grandkids’ visit, on the days it didn’t rain, they pulled out all the logs that the landscapers stacked up at the back of the yard and scattered them everywhere.

Oh great, now the lawn maintenance guys will have to collect and restack the logs before they can mow the yard, and of course they will add an extra charge.

Yeah, but the grandkids had a great time, eh?

99 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:57:28am

re: #82 freetoken

The big science news of the day will be the unveiling of the Homo habilis (?) skeleton(s) from South Africa. Because the details have been kept under wraps I’ve not been able to locate a good story to link, but the announcement should stir up the creationists.

GET IT? LINK? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

100 sattv4u2  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:58:19am

re: #96 NJDhockeyfan

mortar shells fired at Israel landed instead in Palestinian territory

SPIN

Those sneaky Israeli agents posing as Palis messed up our targeting mechanisms

101 sattv4u2  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:58:49am

re: #99 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

GET IT? LINK? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

meds haven’t kicked in yet, FVB!?!!?

102 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:58:54am

re: #99 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

GET IT? LINK? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

[Link: www.archaeologyinfo.com…]

103 sattv4u2  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:59:02am

re: #101 sattv4u2

meds haven’t kicked in yet, FVB FBV!?!!?

104 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 5:59:27am

re: #101 sattv4u2

meds haven’t kicked in yet, FVB!?!!?

The pie hasn’t kicked in yet.
///

105 sattv4u2  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:00:05am

re: #104 Cannadian Club Akbar

The pie hasn’t kicked in yet.
///

impossible
It never disapates in his system!

106 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:00:31am

re: #96 NJDhockeyfan

Jimmy Carter’s friends just can’t help themselves…

Hamas to halt rocket attacks on Israel

Bad example, silly:
1. Mortars are not rockets
2. Work accidents inside Gaza are not attacks on Israeli territory
Please read the fine print and disclaimer on the Hamas memo.

107 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:01:02am

re: #105 sattv4u2

Oatmeal this morning and blueberry muffins.

Muffins are like cake. Little bitty delicious cakes… Icing? BUTTER!

108 sattv4u2  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:01:36am

Well ,, one good thing if (when) it rains today


The colors of my cars parked outside will change back to what I bought, instead of the green pollen they are now!

109 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:01:38am

re: #106 Spare O’Lake

Bad example, silly:
1. Mortars are not rockets
2. Work accidents inside Gaza are not attacks on Israeli territory
Please read the fine print and disclaimer on the Hamas memo.

Hamas needs an OSHA style agency.
//

110 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:02:40am

re: #97 sattv4u2

Can you get the grandkids to come over to my house? I have a stack of stuff that has to be moved!

They will move it, but scatter it everywhere instead of piling it neatly in the place where you want it moved.

111 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:03:04am

re: #93 Cannadian Club Akbar

I’d give my right arm to be ambidextrous.

112 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:03:06am

re: #107 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oatmeal this morning and blueberry muffins.

Muffins are like cake. Little bitty delicious cakes… Icing? BUTTER!

I can’t decide on eggs and grits or eggs and waffles.

113 freetoken  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:03:13am

re: #102 Cannadian Club Akbar

From the sounds of things, today’s announcement ought to fill in lots of information about Homo habilis, or perhaps split up the species.

114 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:03:46am

re: #112 Cannadian Club Akbar

I can’t decide on eggs and grits or eggs and waffles.

Easy decision. Grits suck.

115 sattv4u2  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:04:12am

re: #107 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oatmeal this morning and blueberry muffins.

Muffins are like cake. Little bitty delicious cakes… Icing? BUTTER!

Gobs of melted butter on a warm muffin ,,,

mmmmmmmm

116 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:04:19am

re: #107 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oatmeal this morning and blueberry muffins.

Muffins are like cake. Little bitty delicious cakes… Icing? BUTTER!

Added to shopping list: blueberries.

Now, what should be the first pie that I bake after Passover? Second pie actually, we all had pizza on Tuesday night.

117 sattv4u2  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:05:04am

re: #110 Alouette

They will move it, but scatter it everywhere instead of piling it neatly in the place where you want it moved.

That’ll work. It’s bags of weed and feed pellets!

118 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:06:09am

re: #116 Alouette

Added to shopping list: blueberries.

Now, what should be the first pie that I bake after Passover? Second pie actually, we all had pizza on Tuesday night.

Apple, please.:)

119 sattv4u2  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:06:36am

re: #116 Alouette

re: #118 Cannadian Club Akbar

Apple, please.:)

Boston Cream!

120 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:06:51am

re: #109 Cannadian Club Akbar

Hamas needs an OSHA style agency.
//

They’ve got one - it’s called UNHRA

121 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:06:59am

From the Bizarro World news files comes this…

Hold that nuclear programme, Kim Jong-ll, the catwalk is calling

There is a new fashionista in town. And I’m told he is a “global vogue” whose style is “spreading expeditiously worldwide”. How exciting! A new Alexander McQueen perhaps? Well, no, actually. It’s Kim Jong-II.

According to Pyongyang’s official website, the leader of North Korea is now “in fashion world-wide”. They call his outfits “modest-looking suits”. I call them shapeless tragedies in taupe.

….The article quotes an “unidentified French fashion expert” who said that world fashion is following Kim Jong-II’s style.

Dictator chic is coming back!

122 sattv4u2  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:07:22am

re: #114 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Easy decision. Grits suck.

Not if you need to spackle the bathroom!

123 BruceKelly  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:07:39am

Great pic, thanks Charles.

124 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:08:23am

re: #119 sattv4u2

re: #118 Cannadian Club Akbar

Boston Cream!

I work at a bbq joint. We had bourbon/pecan pie. Mmm.

125 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:10:06am

re: #119 sattv4u2

re: #118 Cannadian Club Akbar

Boston Cream!

Boston cream is not pie.

126 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:10:17am

re: #124 Cannadian Club Akbar

I work at a bbq joint. We had bourbon/pecan pie. Mmm.

Worked, PIMF.

127 sattv4u2  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:10:29am

re: #124 Cannadian Club Akbar

I work at a bbq joint. We had bourbon/pecan pie. Mmm.

I’ll stick with the Boston Cream. but I would take a shot of bourbon on the side

The pecans, not so much!

128 sattv4u2  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:11:15am

re: #125 Alouette

Boston cream is not pie.

Then why do they call it Boston Cream Pie, and not Boston Cream Cake, or Boston Cream Pastery!?!?!

129 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:11:17am

It is a matter of perspective!

I’ve recently acquired and am playing a solitaire wargame called “D-Day Omaha Beach”. Covers the first twelve hours of the Allied invasion of Normandy on June 6, 1944 - and actually just the activity by two US divisions landing on Omaha Beach.

Given that recent perspective I see that photo and think “kill zone”. :p

For those of a cinematic bend the beginning of _Saving Private Ryan_ features a company of US Rangers landing on said beach. (And that unit is included in the game.)

Playing this gives me even more respect for our veterans who faced this sort of horror. And as I’ve said previously a game, a movie, or probably just about any other “simulation” is probably trying to experience a bonfire by watching a match burn.

130 Ericus58  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:12:58am

Kyrgyzstan opposition declares new government

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk…]

“The opposition in Kyrgyzstan says it has dissolved parliament and taken power, after a bloody uprising forced the president to flee the capital.

Opposition leader Roza Otunbayeva, an ex-foreign minister, said the interim government was fully in control.

She said President Kurmanbek Bakiyev had not yet resigned but was trying to rally support in the country’s south.

Clashes in the capital, Bishkek, and other towns left 75 dead and more than 1,000 hurt, the health ministry said.”

131 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:13:33am

re: #128 sattv4u2

Then why do they call it Boston Cream Pie, and not Boston Cream Cake, or Boston Cream Pastery!?!?!

I think during the Puritan times, cake was banned as a luxury of royalty and nobility, but pie was permitted as it was more “working class.” But this may be an urban legend.

132 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:14:13am

re: #131 Alouette

I think during the Puritan times, cake was banned as a luxury of royalty and nobility, but pie was permitted as it was more “working class.” But this may be an urban legend.

Let them eat pie!

133 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:14:21am

re: #128 sattv4u2

Then why do they call it Boston Cream Pie, and not Boston Cream Cake, or Boston Cream Pastery!?!?!

Because after a meal there is always room for pie.

134 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:14:54am

Speaking of pie, I can never get my pecan pie filling to set properly. It always gets leaky and runny. Should I add more cornstarch?

135 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:15:29am

re: #130 Ericus58

From your link:
“You can call this revolution. You can call this a people’s revolt. Either way, it is our way of saying that we want justice and democracy.”

136 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:16:10am

re: #134 Alouette

Speaking of pie, I can never get my pecan pie filling to set properly. It always gets leaky and runny. Should I add more cornstarch?

Do you use cornstarch or a slurry?

137 sattv4u2  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:17:58am

re: #134 Alouette

Speaking of pie, I can never get my pecan pie filling to set properly. It always gets leaky and runny. Should I add more cornstarch?

grits,, (oh,, wait,, that was a different discussuion!)

138 Ericus58  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:18:03am

re: #135 Cannadian Club Akbar

From your link:
“You can call this revolution. You can call this a people’s revolt. Either way, it is our way of saying that we want justice and democracy.”

“Kyrgyzstan is a strategically important central Asian state and houses a Russian base and a key US military base that supplies forces in Afghanistan. The US suspended military flights on Wednesday.”

139 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:21:03am

re: #136 Cannadian Club Akbar

Do you use cornstarch or a slurry?

What’s a slurry?

I use the recipe that’s on the Karo dark syrup bottle.

140 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:22:31am

re: #138 Ericus58

“Kyrgyzstan is a strategically important central Asian state and houses a Russian base and a key US military base that supplies forces in Afghanistan. The US suspended military flights on Wednesday.”

And it has absolutely nothing to do with radical Islam!

141 Sigma_x  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:23:03am

Robert Rubin - the ex-CEO of Citibank - is right now testifying before congress on what went wrong.

Must-see TV.

142 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:23:29am

re: #140 Spare O’Lake

And it has absolutely nothing to do with radical Islam!

Isn’t that a forbidden term?

143 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:25:21am

IRS Launches New Global Program to Target ‘High Wealth Individuals’

The Internal Revenue Service has launched a new global program to target what it calls “high wealth individuals,” IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman said Monday.

“Through our new global high wealth operating unit we are taking a unified look at the entire web of business and economic entities controlled by high wealth individuals so we can better assess the risk such arrangements pose to tax compliance,” Shulman said at the National Press Club on Monday.

Shulman said the IRS is using “our robust and evolving enforcement program that ensures that everyone pays what they owe.”

The IRS initiated its Global High Wealth Industry group in the fall. Schulman told an October 26 meeting of the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants that it would be part of “the globalization of tax administration,” which he called a “game changing trend” in tax enforcement.

“This brings me to another important development—a game-changing trend—the globalization of tax administration,” said Shulman.

144 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:25:25am

re: #139 Alouette

What’s a slurry?

I use the recipe that’s on the Karo dark syrup bottle.

A slurry is cornstarch and water. It is the equivalent of a roux. Do you heat the pie filling and then add the corn starch or just add it to the filling?

145 freetoken  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:25:45am

re: #141 Sigma_x

I’ll have to skip that one… probably put me to sleep.

146 badger1970  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:28:14am

re: #143 NJDhockeyfan

Sounds like a great television show. IRS: Criminal Wealth Division.

147 Ericus58  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:28:49am

re: #143 NJDhockeyfan

““This brings me to another important development—a game-changing trend—the globalization of tax administration,” said Shulman.”

*raises eyebrow*

148 sattv4u2  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:32:45am

re: #145 freetoken

I’ll have to skip that one… probably put me to sleep.

And miss a Hank Johnsonesque moment!?!?!

149 pingjockey  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:34:14am

Mornin’ folks. Today is the 97th anniversary of the 17th amendment. This gives us elections for our represenatives to DC every 2 years.

150 sattv4u2  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:36:57am

re: #149 pingjockey

Mornin’ folks. Today is the 97th anniversary of the 17th amendment. This gives us elections for our represenatives to DC every 2 years.

Mixed feelings about how that one has evolved

On the one hand, it’s a good thing that they are held (somewhat) accountable every 2 years
Yet on the other I know that from the moment they are elected they are already running their re-election campaign

151 pingjockey  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:37:52am

re: #150 sattv4u2
Yeah. Get elected, start running for re-election.

152 garhighway  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:39:37am

re: #143 NJDhockeyfan

IRS Launches New Global Program to Target ‘High Wealth Individuals’

This is good.

People should pay what they owe. Period.

And the recent experiences with the Swiss banks show us that some tax dodging is international.

153 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:41:28am

Good Grief. According to Debbie Schlussel, the Qatari diplomat who was arrested for smoking on a flight was conducting a dry run for a terrorist bombing. I won’t bother posting a link.

154 pingjockey  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:42:02am

re: #152 garhighway
I wonder if the IRS thinks they can get the tax havens, ie…offshore safe havens to cooperate?

155 pingjockey  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:43:18am

re: #153 Mad Al-Jaffee
It would appear to me, the dude was having a nic fit, decided to smoke in the head and made a very stupid crack to an air marshall. Epic dumb.

156 garhighway  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:44:36am

re: #154 pingjockey

I wonder if the IRS thinks they can get the tax havens, ie…offshore safe havens to cooperate?

My guess is that they take them one at a time, looking for diplomatic opportunities or, as in the case of the Swiss, some legal screw-up that gives us leverage.

But that’s just a guess as a guy who reads the paper.

158 pingjockey  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:47:19am

re: #156 garhighway
Me too. The Swiss have really pissed me off with all the cash the nazis had stashed and the Swiss wouldn’t give it back to the families of those murdered in the Holocaust without a ton of paperwork that had no chance of ever being provided. IIRC, they(Swiss) were wanting death certs from families of victims murdered in the camps!

159 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:49:19am

re: #153 Mad Al-Jaffee

I totally fucking called it.

160 sattv4u2  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:50:26am

re: #156 garhighway

My guess is that they take them one at a time, looking for diplomatic opportunities

My guess is that the Swiss, Caymans et al will ignore this entirely

There is no upside for them, and calling the new IRS unit a “global high wealth operating unit ” won’t impress them

161 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:52:21am

re: #152 garhighway

This is good.

People should pay what they owe. Period.

And the recent experiences with the Swiss banks show us that some tax dodging is international.


I agree. The rich are paying far more than the rest of the taxpayers. Half the country isn’t paying any income tax at all. It’s time for everyone to pay their taxes.

162 garhighway  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:52:34am

re: #160 sattv4u2

My guess is that they take them one at a time, looking for diplomatic opportunities

My guess is that the Swiss, Caymans et al will ignore this entirely

There is no upside for them, and calling the new IRS unit a “global high wealth operating unit ” won’t impress them

We have the Swiss in a bind because we can indict one of their big banks here. That is a big club. The rest, come one at a time as we find opportunities. I agree with you that the havens have no incentive to be helpful, absent some other financial, legal or diplomatic leverage.

163 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:54:18am

re: #161 NJDhockeyfan

Fuck yeah! Nothing stimulates the economy like taxing poor people who spend 100% of their income! We need to take dollars out of the hands of consumers and put them in the hands of people who can invest them in companies in the Middle East, like Halliburton!

/

164 garhighway  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:54:34am

re: #161 NJDhockeyfan

I agree. The rich are paying far more than the rest of the taxpayers. Half the country isn’t paying any income tax at all. It’s time for everyone to pay their taxes.

I don’t have the stats handy, but I think if you look at overall tax burden by income strata, it is remarkably flat. The tax mix changes a lot by income strata, but everyone pays one way or another. Nobody rides free.

165 sattv4u2  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:57:21am

re: #163 Obdicut

Fuck yeah! Nothing stimulates the economy like taxing poor people who spend 100% of their income! We need to take dollars out of the hands of consumers and put them in the hands of people who can invest them in companies in the Middle East, like Halliburton!

/

Fuck yeah! Nothing stimulates the economy like taking money out of the hands of investors, those greedy filthy bastards that put up 100% of the money for new businesses while assuming 100% of the risks!
Lets put that money into the hands of financially responsible people, like Congress!!

166 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 6:58:06am

re: #164 garhighway

I don’t have the stats handy, but I think if you look at overall tax burden by income strata, it is remarkably flat. The tax mix changes a lot by income strata, but everyone pays one way or another. Nobody rides free.

Everyone pays some type of tax….sales tax comes to mind. However, half of the taxpayers don’t pay federal income taxes. How fair is that?

167 sattv4u2  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 7:01:09am

re: #163 Obdicut

who can invest them in companies in the Middle East, like Halliburton!

((oh , and btw ,, Haliburton is a US based company ,, paying US corporate taxes ,, employing thousands of US citizens ,,, but you knew that , didn’t you!?!?!)

168 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 7:02:06am

re: #163 Obdicut

Fuck yeah! Nothing stimulates the economy like taxing poor people who spend 100% of their income! We need to take dollars out of the hands of consumers and put them in the hands of people who can invest them in companies in the Middle East, like Halliburton!

/

Fuck yeah! Let’s punish successful people by taking more of their money and redistribute it to someone else. That should stimulate the economy alright. What an incentive for people who want to start their own businesses and hire employees. The more successful they become, the higher their are financially punished by the government. Brilliant!

169 sattv4u2  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 7:06:01am

re: #168 NJDhockeyfan

Let’s punish successful people

You know as well as I do that all of them inherited all that money and have never worked a day in their lives!
/

170 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 7:11:41am

re: #169 sattv4u2

Let’s punish successful people

You know as well as I do that all of them inherited all that money and have never worked a day in their lives!
/

Oh yeah, I forgot. All the rich people in the country were fed on a silver spoon. My bad.

//

171 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 7:26:45am

re: #165 sattv4u2

Fuck yeah! Nothing stimulates the economy like taking money out of the hands of investors, those greedy filthy bastards that put up 100% of the money for new businesses while assuming 100% of the risks!
Lets put that money into the hands of financially responsible people, like Congress!!

Investors don’t put up 100% of the money for new businesses. Even if you ignore the amazing amount of infrastructure and talent pool they’re able to draw form— things they wouldn’t have elsewhere in the world, many US industries are directly subsidized.

In addition, there are legions of lawyers who dedicate themselves to helping investors minimize their risk.

The thing about a system like capitalism is that large enough amounts of wealth allows you to do qualitatively different things.

172 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 7:28:12am

re: #168 NJDhockeyfan

Well, yes, literally taking money from the ultrarich and giving it to the poor would stimulate the economy. It’s not a good idea for a lot of other reasons, though.

Consumers are just as important as capitalists, in capitalism. You really need to have enough wealth and income at the lower strata to be able to afford the goods and services that capitalists provide. It’s a symbiotic, not an aggressive relationship.

173 pharmmajor  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 7:31:14am

An interesting image I found. Hope you guys like it.

Similarities between Obama and Bush


[Link: fennecfoxes3.deviantart.com…]

174 RogueOne  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 8:03:41am

re: #173 pharmmajor

An interesting image I found. Hope you guys like it.

Similarities between Obama and Bush

[Link: fennecfoxes3.deviantart.com…]

I love deviantart but I go there for the art, not their political views.

175 pharmmajor  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 8:20:42am

re: #174 RogueOne

I love deviantart but I go there for the art, not their political views.

Sometimes you can find truth in art… DeviantArt that is. (Ed McMahon: “Hi-yo!”)

176 garhighway  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 10:18:35am

re: #166 NJDhockeyfan

Everyone pays some type of tax…sales tax comes to mind. However, half of the taxpayers don’t pay federal income taxes. How fair is that?

Sorry for the delayed response.

Looking at each tax in isolation leads to all kinds of “unfair” results, and is frankly a fool’s errand. But if you want to look at federal tax load, don’t forget payroll taxes, which get capped for high wage earners and start at dollar one.

The disincentive argument is a non-starter at today’s tax rates or at any likely to be imposed any time soon. While it is possible for a taxing authority to set rates that high, that is a political impossibility here in the US. Claiming that they are there now, or are likely to go there in the foreseeable future, is just hysteria.

177 prairiefire  Thu, Apr 8, 2010 10:57:42am

re: #174 RogueOne

DeviantArt is where my kids and I found line rider:[Link: fsk.deviantart.com…]


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