Another oil drilling platform has exploded in the Gulf of Mexico, but luckily no workers were killed. The latest reports say that officials don’t know whether oil is leaking from the well; but it was not producing oil and gas at the time of the explosion.
The good news: this platform is in relatively shallow water (340 feet), so if there is a leak it will be much easier to plug.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:42:21am |
I said on the LNDT, it might be doing maintenance. You need fuel to run stuff. Also, a rig explosion is different from a well explosion. Glad everyone is ok.
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Major Tom Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:44:36am |
If it wasn’t drilling, or producing, then why would it explode?
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elbruce Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:45:47am |
(roll the dice)
Result: “close call.”
(start shaking the dice again…)
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Reginald Perrin Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:45:52am |
The Financial Times reported that employees from Apache and Mariner, along with thousands of oil industry workers, rallied in Houston to protest the Obama administration’s offshore drilling moratorium that was designed as a safety precaution after BP’s disastrous Gulf oil spill. A Mariner Energy employee chastised the Obama administration for its drilling moratorium, which would not have affected the rig that exploded today:
Companies ranging from Chevron to Apache bussed in up to 5,000 employees to the Houston convention centre to underline to Washington the industry’s contribution to the country. […]“I have been in the oil and gas industry for 40 years, and this administration is trying to break us,” said Barbara Dianne Hagood, senior landman for Mariner Energy, a small company. “The moratorium they imposed is going to be a financial disaster for the gulf coast, gulf coast employees and gulf coast residents.”the Financial Times reported that employees from Apache and Mariner, along with thousands of oil industry workers, rallied in Houston to protest the Obama administration’s offshore drilling moratorium that was designed as a safety precaution after BP’s disastrous Gulf oil spill. A Mariner Energy employee chastised the Obama administration for its drilling moratorium, which would not have affected the rig that exploded today:
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:46:10am |
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lawhawk Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:46:33am |
re: #2 Major Tom
A production rig has plenty of equipment and materials on board that can be hazardous and/or explosive under the right circumstances. That includes gas vapors, improperly stored materials, poor security/safety protocols, electrical faults, etc.
Not enough information at present to know what sparked the explosion.
But the reports do say that it had been producing natural gas, oil, and condensates in the last week of August.
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:51:06am |
re: #4 Reginald Perrin
The Financial Times reported that employees from Apache and Mariner, along with thousands of oil industry workers, rallied in Houston to protest the Obama administration’s offshore drilling moratorium that was designed as a safety precaution after BP’s disastrous Gulf oil spill. A Mariner Energy employee chastised the Obama administration for its drilling moratorium, which would not have affected the rig that exploded today:
so not at all using entirely the same tactics the Health Care Cartels used against the Obama administration in the face of continued and ongoing fuck ups in their own midst?.
/
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spikester Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:52:13am |
re: #2 Major Tom
may be been in a TAR
(turn around) shut down for yearly maint. thing
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Major Tom Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:58:19am |
OK… Rigs are pretty big though, right? Weren’t all the workers in the water? Don’t they have fire fighting abilities on the rigs? …And does anyone know the substantial differences between a drilling rig and an oil platform?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:58:27am |
Mariner’s safety record in the Gulf, based on federal fines, has been largely unnoteworthy. Last year, it was fined $55,000 for two incidents in the Gulf of Mexico, records from the former Minerals Management Service indicate. In one, it was fined $20,000 because a helicopter platform was taken out of service due to a fire. In another, it was fined $35,000 after an inspectors cited it for lacking adequate contingency plans for an operation
[Link: www.usatoday.com…]
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zxbe Thu, Sep 2, 2010 10:59:06am |
Thankfully there were no serious injuries this time.
Now we wait and see what the damage to the rig is, and if it’s caused any environmental damage.
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Nick Schroeder Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:01:02am |
Awesome.
And by ‘awesome’, I of course mean ‘FFFFFUUUUUU——’.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:01:38am |
re: #9 Major Tom
OK… Rigs are pretty big though, right? Weren’t all the workers in the water? Don’t they have fire fighting abilities on the rigs? …And does anyone know the substantial differences between a drilling rig and an oil platform?
[Link: answers.yahoo.com…]
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Cato the Elder Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:02:52am |
Was emergency algebra applied to stop the crisis, or did they just wing it?
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Varek Raith Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:03:21am |
re: #14 Cato the Elder
Was emergency algebra applied to stop the crisis, or did they just wing it?
They jumped in the water.
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wrenchwench Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:04:02am |
re: #14 Cato the Elder
Was emergency algebra applied to stop the crisis, or did they just wing it?
ARG + LOL = [no comment]
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zxbe Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:04:06am |
re: #3 elbruce
(roll the dice)
Result: “close call.”
(start shaking the dice again…)
Unfortunately that seems to be the case. It’s not a matter of if, but when.
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McSpiff Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:05:59am |
re: #14 Cato the Elder
Was emergency algebra applied to stop the crisis, or did they just wing it?
Amazingly, all men appear to have been able to done their survival suits without the use of a Fourier transform. Truly, we were lucky this time.
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spikester Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:06:28am |
re: #15 Varek Raith
yeah that’s kind of strange
be interesting to see what brought that about
lack of training prob
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Varek Raith Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:07:28am |
Oil platform + Fire = I’m jumping in the freaking ocean!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:07:51am |
re: #19 McSpiff
Amazingly, all men appear to have been able to done their survival suits without the use of a Fourier transform. Truly, we were lucky this time.
I think the 11 killed with Deepwater Horizon were killed in the initial blast. These guys take safety pretty seriously.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:09:25am |
re: #14 Cato the Elder
Was emergency algebra applied to stop the crisis, or did they just wing it?
You wouldn’t even be able to understand the answer to that question, so don’t even fret about it… go read a book or something :)
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Major Tom Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:09:44am |
@Cannadian Club Akbar
I error all the time… I never explode.
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webevintage Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:10:01am |
re: #4 Reginald Perrin
The Financial Times reported that employees from Apache and Mariner, along with thousands of oil industry workers, rallied in Houston to protest the Obama administration’s offshore drilling moratorium that was designed as a safety precaution after BP’s disastrous Gulf oil spill. A Mariner Energy employee chastised the Obama administration for its drilling moratorium, which would not have affected the rig that exploded today:
I keep wondering if the fears of oil company workers is based of facts or just the narrative they get from their employers and the “drill baby, drill” people.
I thought the moratorium was only for deep water rigs and that those effected will be compensated via the extra 100million dollar fund that BP set up?
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McSpiff Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:10:06am |
re: #22 Cannadian Club Akbar
I think the 11 killed with Deepwater Horizon were killed in the initial blast. These guys take safety pretty seriously.
I believe you are correct. Especially with the type of explosion that occurred on DH, there’s really no time to react. The platform was there, and then it wasn’t is my impression.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:10:09am |
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Stanghazi Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:10:09am |
Update on oil platform fire: Mile-long oil sheen spreading from site of burning platform in Gulf off Louisiana, Coast Guard says - AP
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researchok Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:10:40am |
This will give support who want a Gulf moratorium on drilling.
Look for more economic woes in the region.
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McSpiff Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:10:41am |
re: #28 Stanley Sea
Update on oil platform fire: Mile-long oil sheen spreading from site of burning platform in Gulf off Louisiana, Coast Guard says - AP
Well shit.
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Varek Raith Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:10:49am |
re: #28 Stanley Sea
Update on oil platform fire: Mile-long oil sheen spreading from site of burning platform in Gulf off Louisiana, Coast Guard says - AP
Damn.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:10:52am |
re: #28 Stanley Sea
Update on oil platform fire: Mile-long oil sheen spreading from site of burning platform in Gulf off Louisiana, Coast Guard says - AP
Hmmm, I thought it was a natural gas well.
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Kragar Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:11:14am |
re: #21 Varek Raith
Oil platform + Fire = I’m jumping in the freaking ocean!
Great, now you can be covered in an oil slick which can catch fire, then drown.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:11:24am |
re: #9 Major Tom
OK… Rigs are pretty big though, right? Weren’t all the workers in the water? Don’t they have fire fighting abilities on the rigs? …And does anyone know the substantial differences between a drilling rig and an oil platform?
This was a production platform; not a drilling platform. A production platform is used to extract the oil after drilling is complete. Very different operations; drilling crews don’t work on production platforms, as a rule, and vice-versa.
Drilling operations typically call for 50-120 or so employees on the rig at a time.
There were only 13 on this one, and apparently, production wasn’t even going on. I’m guessing that the explosion was caused by fuel needed to keep the rig running, as CCA said in #1.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:11:34am |
re: #28 Stanley Sea
Update on oil platform fire: Mile-long oil sheen spreading from site of burning platform in Gulf off Louisiana, Coast Guard says - AP
Could have been from a storage unit.
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Kragar Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:11:45am |
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Varek Raith Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:11:46am |
re: #34 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Great, now you can be covered in an oil slick which can catch fire, then drown.
Killjoy.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:12:10am |
re: #25 webevintage
I keep wondering if the fears of oil company workers is based of facts or just the narrative they get from their employers and the “drill baby, drill” people.
I thought the moratorium was only for deep water rigs and that those effected will be compensated via the extra 100million dollar fund that BP set up?
There are no drilling permits being issued, regardless of depth. None. Well, the exception is that BP has a permit.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:12:51am |
re: #29 researchok
This will give support who want a Gulf moratorium on drilling.
Look for more economic woes in the region.
And this wasn’t even a drilling operation.
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Kragar Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:13:19am |
re: #38 Varek Raith
Killjoy.
I like to think of myself as Mr Worst Case scenario.
Did I forget to mention the sharks before?
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Stanghazi Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:13:53am |
Vermilion 380 Platform A was in fact producing oil and gas at the time of the accident, again contrary to Coast Guard statements that it was not producing at the time, the company statement said.Mariner officials said it produced an average of 9.2 million cubic feet of natural gas per day and 1,400 barrels of oil and condensate a day during the last week of August
Platform Owner says no oil leaking - NOLA
Who the hell knows
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Varek Raith Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:14:31am |
re: #43 Stanley Sea
Platform Owner says no oil leaking - NOLA
Who the hell knows
No one, apparently.
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McSpiff Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:15:20am |
re: #40 reine.de.tout
Its going to be very hard to explain that to everyone. If anything, that difference might be harmful to any attempt to get the moratorium lifted.
“If they can’t get the easy bits right…”
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:15:20am |
re: #43 Stanley Sea
Platform Owner says no oil leaking - NOLA
Who the hell knows
If the platform was on fire, that is a big difference from a well blow out.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:15:50am |
OT (shameless gloating) - Wow… that was fast… I ordered my 4 day Paris Museum Passes on Aug. 31st, 2010 on FNAC’s website, paid e14.00 for shipping, I still expected like 5-6 days in the least for that small price… they just came… 3 days from Paris… neat.
Ok… back to our regularly scheduled sniping.
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Varek Raith Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:16:38am |
re: #47 Walter L. Newton
OT (shameless gloating) - Wow… that was fast… I ordered my 4 day Paris Museum Passes on Aug. 31st, 2010 on FNAC’s website, paid e14.00 for shipping, I still expected like 5-6 days in the least for that small price… they just came… 3 days from Paris… neat.
Ok… back to our regularly scheduled sniping.
Cool.
*Snipes the passes from Walter’s hands*
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:17:05am |
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darthstar Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:20:04am |
re: #29 researchok
This will give support who want a Gulf moratorium on drilling.
Look for more economic woes in the region.
The current moratorium hasn’t had the economic impact drill-baby-drillers were fantasizing about. Crappy safety standards and adherence to rules are a greater danger to the oil industry than President Obama is (though I know that’s not what you were implying).
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:20:15am |
Pic.From 39 minutes ago.
[Link: culturemap.com…]
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reine.de.tout Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:20:45am |
re: #45 McSpiff
Its going to be very hard to explain that to everyone. If anything, that difference might be harmful to any attempt to get the moratorium lifted.
“If they can’t get the easy bits right…”
heh.
I don’t think any of it’s easy.
The media doesn’t even know enough to show a photo of a drilling rig when they’re talking about drilling - I mostly ever see a photo of a production platform with their stories. Now, that should be an easy one to get right …
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webevintage Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:21:13am |
re: #39 reine.de.tout
There are no drilling permits being issued, regardless of depth. None. Well, the exception is that BP has a permit.
This is confusing.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:21:13am |
re: #48 Varek Raith
Cool.
*Snipes the passes from Walter’s hands*
The Paris Museum Pass is one of the best deals in Paris. The 4 day pass is e48.00 (about USA60.00) and gives you admission to over 70 museums and monuments (like Versailles) and the card allows you to jump otherwise sometimes lengthy queues. With an average price of e8-e10 for attractions (e15 for Versailles), this pass easily pays for itself times over.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:22:01am |
re: #50 darthstar
The current moratorium hasn’t had the economic impact drill-baby-drillers were fantasizing about. Crappy safety standards and adherence to rules are a greater danger to the oil industry than President Obama is (though I know that’s not what you were implying).
Absolutely they need to get the safety stuff right. Absolutely.
But this well wasn’t drilling, and it doesn’t appear it was even producing anything.
I’m sure by this afternoon we’ll know what happened and why.
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Varek Raith Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:22:15am |
re: #54 Walter L. Newton
The Paris Museum Pass is one of the best deals in Paris. The 4 day pass is e48.00 (about USA60.00) and gives you admission to over 70 museums and monuments (like Versailles) and the card allows you to jump otherwise sometimes lengthy queues. With an average price of e8-e10 for attractions (e15 for Versailles), this pass easily pays for itself times over.
Damn, that’s a good deal!
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webevintage Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:22:39am |
re: #54 Walter L. Newton
The Paris Museum Pass is one of the best deals in Paris. The 4 day pass is e48.00 (about USA60.00) and gives you admission to over 70 museums and monuments (like Versailles) and the card allows you to jump otherwise sometimes lengthy queues. With an average price of e8-e10 for attractions (e15 for Versailles), this pass easily pays for itself times over.
I seethe with envy whenever you mention your upcoming trip.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:23:02am |
re: #53 webevintage
This is confusing.
There are no permits being issued for Louisiana, period.
The moratorium covers deep-water; but MMS is not issuing any drilling permits at all.
This well wasn’t drilling; the drilling was finished.
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Stanghazi Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:23:44am |
re: #55 reine.de.tout
Absolutely they need to get the safety stuff right. Absolutely.
But this well wasn’t drilling, and it doesn’t appear it was even producing anything.
I’m sure by this afternoon we’ll know what happened and why.
Per Mariner’s statement they were producing.
Whatever that means.
Vermilion 380 Platform A was in fact producing oil and gas at the time of the accident, again contrary to Coast Guard statements that it was not producing at the time, the company statement said.
Mariner officials said it produced an average of 9.2 million cubic feet of natural gas per day and 1,400 barrels of oil and condensate a day during the last week of August
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lawhawk Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:24:02am |
re: #33 Killgore Trout
It was producing mostly natural gas, but taking up some condensates and oil in the process.
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McSpiff Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:24:08am |
re: #52 reine.de.tout
heh.
I don’t think any of it’s easy.
The media doesn’t even know enough to show a photo of a drilling rig when they’re talking about drilling - I mostly ever see a photo of a production platform with their stories. Now, that should be an easy one to get right …
Sorry, easy wasn’t the right word. Deep Horizon and Deep Water drilling in general was presented as being one of the hardest types of operations. And the media just likes to show anything with a flare.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:24:20am |
re: #60 Stanley Sea
Per Mariner’s statement they were producing.
Whatever that means.
Vermilion 380 Platform A was in fact producing oil and gas at the time of the accident, again contrary to Coast Guard statements that it was not producing at the time, the company statement said.
Mariner officials said it produced an average of 9.2 million cubic feet of natural gas per day and 1,400 barrels of oil and condensate a day during the last week of August
Ah, OK. I just got back and the last story I saw was the CG statement.
Thanks.
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darthstar Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:24:23am |
re: #55 reine.de.tout
Absolutely they need to get the safety stuff right. Absolutely.
But this well wasn’t drilling, and it doesn’t appear it was even producing anything.
I’m sure by this afternoon we’ll know what happened and why.
Good point. And it is apparently a much smaller platform than the DW Horizon was (only had 13 crew, versus I think 130 on the Horizon). Still, it doesn’t help those who are arguing for more drilling to have a rig (drilling or production) go off like this.
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researchok Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:25:08am |
re: #50 darthstar
The current moratorium hasn’t had the economic impact drill-baby-drillers were fantasizing about. Crappy safety standards and adherence to rules are a greater danger to the oil industry than President Obama is (though I know that’s not what you were implying).
Actually, I believe Obama fully understands what is at stake, economy wise. He can’t afford any leaks in what is already a tenuous economic patchwork plan.
My fear is that part of his constituency is determined not only to be heard, but to wield influence, Gulf and economy be damned.
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webevintage Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:25:15am |
re: #58 reine.de.tout
There are no permits being issued for Louisiana, period.
The moratorium covers deep-water; but MMS is not issuing any drilling permits at all.This well wasn’t drilling; the drilling was finished.
So no one is drilling right now.
BUT they are producing which is done once the well has been completely drilled.
Listen the only thing I know about getting oil is from “There Will Be Blood” and that had to do with drinking someones milkshake….
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reine.de.tout Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:27:07am |
re: #67 webevintage
So no one is drilling right now.
BUT they are producing which is done once the well has been completely drilled.Listen the only thing I know about getting oil is from “There Will Be Blood” and that had to do with drinking someones milkshake…
No one is drilling off Louisiana coast.
In Texas there is drilling going on, the Roi is on a rig right now off Texas.
Which I find a bit strange; if it’s dangerous to drill off Louisiana coast, it’s just as dangerous to drill off Texas coast. BUT I CANNOT COMPLAIN! It’s keeping him busy and outta my hair.
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:27:19am |
This whould not distract us from the indisuptable fact that Obama is out to ruin the Gulf Coast economy with his drilling moratorium.
And wreck the financial industry through government overregulation.
And ruin health care by making available to more Americans
/
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spikester Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:27:40am |
re: #64 darthstar
this platform would have fit in the moon pool of the DWH
moon pool if the area that the drilling rig drills through
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darthstar Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:27:54am |
re: #66 researchok
Actually, I believe Obama fully understands what is at stake, economy wise. He can’t afford any leaks in what is already a tenuous economic patchwork plan.
My fear is that part of his constituency is determined not only to be heard, but to wield influence, Gulf and economy be damned.
I don’t think anyone is going to shut down the biggest economic driver in the Gulf, regardless of how liberal they may be. The biggest effect this will have is it will help candidates calling for more regulation on the industry, whereas the Palin/Boehner/Vitter/Jindal types will have to dismiss yet another big visual reality.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:27:57am |
re: #57 webevintage
I seethe with envy whenever you mention your upcoming trip.
And please understand, it’s not that I am trying to make anyone envious, not on purpose… but I consider LGF like an extended family, and it’s like talking with family members around the dinner table.
And most of the time, I also try to relate informative stuff that can be useful to other Lizards who may be thinking or planing a trip at sometime.
I couldn’t tell you how to save a penny in England or some other place, but my Paris travels have enabled me to have a lot of tip and hints for those who want to know about the town and about the best ways to save money.
And I certainly don’t have the kind of bucks I use to for trips, this trip is happening because of a combined effort by my girlfriend and myself to make it happen, the old fashioned way, saving for it and coming up with the funds one step at a time.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:28:12am |
And they are gonna take the cap off the Deep Water Horizon blow out and try to permanently cap it. Today.
[Link: news.yahoo.com…]
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Kragar Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:29:11am |
re: #74 Cannadian Club Akbar
And they are gonna take the cap off the Deep Water Horizon blow out and try to permanently cap it. Today.
[Link: news.yahoo.com…]
We’re all gonna die.
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webevintage Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:30:05am |
re: #68 reine.de.tout
BUT I CANNOT COMPLAIN! It’s keeping him busy and outta my hair.
That’s always a plus.
Oh BTW, my son having driven back and forth to work ONCE seems to think he should be allowed to drive my car 45 mins or so on Friday night to a friend’s house.
Yeah.
Not gonna happen.
yet.
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reine.de.tout Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:30:13am |
I don’t like the moratorium; but at the time Horizon happened, I don’t think Obama had much choice.
The whole thing is being reviewed right now; there is a possibility it will be lifted before November; even if not, November is only a few months away.
Many companies (like the one my husband works for) kept their highly skilled employees; his company hasn’t laid of anyone with drilling experience.
The people suffering are the sort of rank and file rig hands, who, honestly, can’t just put on a suit and tie and grab a briefcase and find work. But they should get some relief from the BP fund.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:30:19am |
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:30:44am |
BB off and on all afternoon… day off, cutting some stone, making some jewelry, having some lunch, will check in to make sure there is nothing broke on the internet that I need to fix… hang in there…
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reine.de.tout Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:31:09am |
re: #57 webevintage
I seethe with envy whenever you mention your upcoming trip.
I do too.
It’s OK Walter! I enjoy hearing about your upcoming trip, and am anxiously awaiting post-trip reports!
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Kragar Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:31:28am |
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:32:07am |
re: #81 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Yeah, but I was hoping not this week.
I can pencil you in for next week.
///
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reine.de.tout Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:32:33am |
re: #76 webevintage
That’s always a plus.
Oh BTW, my son having driven back and forth to work ONCE seems to think he should be allowed to drive my car 45 mins or so on Friday night to a friend’s house.
Yeah.
Not gonna happen.yet.
ouch.
45 minute drive - it’s a bit much.
I didn’t let babygirl drive on the interstate for the first year she drove; or rather, she could, but one of us had to be with her.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:35:01am |
My radio just said there is oil sheen (brought up earlier) but they don’t know if it is a leak or from stored oil (which I suggested)
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webevintage Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:35:14am |
re: #72 Walter L. Newton
And please understand, it’s not that I am trying to make anyone envious, not on purpose… but I consider LGF like an extended family, and it’s like talking with family members around the dinner table.
Dude, you do not have to explain.
I may be green with envy (who is it here that lives in Paris…you know who you are…they really make me green) BUT I am so enjoying hearing about your plans. I love traveling though the rest of you.
(I hate to fly, hate to drive and while I love traveling by train it really is a pain to get from here to anywhere. Plus we just have too many damn pets to board them for any length of time. But I have a feeling that now that our son can get himself to work we will begin taking short trips.)
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Kragar Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:35:15am |
re: #82 Cannadian Club Akbar
I can pencil you in for next week.
///
No need, I’ll just try for a walk in sometime.
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lawhawk Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:36:46am |
re: #54 Walter L. Newton
It’s an awesome deal, but if you’re not a museum buff, it might make more sense to get the individual museum passes (say that you’re only going to visit the Louvre, Orsay, and Rodin).
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:37:03am |
re: #86 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
No need, I’ll just try for a walk in sometime.
OK. But there might be a wait.
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Kragar Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:37:52am |
Newt Gingrich and Anti-gay, Pro Terrorism Evangelist Team up for national event
in the heat of mid-term election season, this weekend’s event in Sacramento — put on by Kansas City-based preacher and noted gay-hater Lou Engle — is taking on a decidedly political feel.
The event is being used as a kick-off for a series of events, spearheaded by former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, aimed at mobilizing the religious right.
TheCall Sacramento is expected to draw 50,000 people to California’s capitol, where they will apparently pray for, among other things, a favorable outcome in the legal wrangling over the state’s gay-marriage ban.
Considering that Engle has been linked to a bill proposed in Uganda that called for imprisoning and killing openly gay people, we’re sure you can figure which outcome he considers favorable. But just in case, former presidential candidate Mike Huckabee is here to remind you, and to invite you to join him in Sac Town:
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Kragar Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:38:11am |
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reine.de.tout Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:39:11am |
re: #85 webevintage
Dude, you do not have to explain.
I may be green with envy (who is it here that lives in Paris…you know who you are…they really make me green) BUT I am so enjoying hearing about your plans. I love traveling though the rest of you.(I hate to fly, hate to drive and while I love traveling by train it really is a pain to get from here to anywhere. Plus we just have too many damn pets to board them for any length of time. But I have a feeling that now that our son can get himself to work we will begin taking short trips.)
Wow.
That sounds EXACTLY like me, every bit of it.
Except I don’t mind a driving trip.
Unless it’s across Texas - there doesn’t seem to be much of anything after you pass up San Antonio.
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Varek Raith Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:40:09am |
re: #86 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
No need, I’ll just try for a walk in sometime.
Yeah, I make an appointment for, let’s see now, never.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:40:53am |
re: #92 Varek Raith
Yeah, I make an appointment for, let’s see now, never.
Never is booked. See you Sunday.
/
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Wozza Matter? Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:42:10am |
re: #91 reine.de.tout
Wow.
That sounds EXACTLY like me, every bit of it.
Except I don’t mind a driving trip.
Unless it’s across Texas - there doesn’t seem to be much of anything after you pass up San Antonio.
my gf is in san antonio :-)
flew over texas on the way to changing planes in el-paso for LV……… didn’t seem to be too much of anything…………
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Turu The Terrible Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:42:19am |
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reine.de.tout Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:42:40am |
So, I’m having a hot dog for lunch, and my dog is sitting next to me, drooling.
Why do dogs love hot dogs so much?
And how the heck do they know when I’m having one?
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reine.de.tout Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:43:22am |
re: #94 wozzablog
my gf is in san antonio :-)
flew over texas on the way to changing planes in el-paso for LV… didn’t seem to be too much of anything…
I love San Antonio.
And that’s as far as I’ve been into Texas.
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Varek Raith Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:43:50am |
re: #96 reine.de.tout
So, I’m having a hot dog for lunch, and my dog is sitting next to me, drooling.
Why do dogs love hot dogs so much?
And how the heck do they know when I’m having one?
ESP.
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Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:45:28am |
re: #96 reine.de.tout
So, I’m having a hot dog for lunch, and my dog is sitting next to me, drooling.
Why do dogs love hot dogs so much?
And how the heck do they know when I’m having one?
I imagine they can smell the nitrates from a mile off…
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:45:44am |
OT- The guy running for Gubner in Florida (I call him Felon) picked a nice add for Lt. Gubner. Interesting.
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:48:06am |
re: #96 reine.de.tout
So, I’m having a hot dog for lunch, and my dog is sitting next to me, drooling.
Why do dogs love hot dogs so much?
And how the heck do they know when I’m having one?
You nose…!
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Turu The Terrible Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:48:39am |
re: #96 reine.de.tout
So, I’m having a hot dog for lunch, and my dog is sitting next to me, drooling.
Why do dogs love hot dogs so much?
And how the heck do they know when I’m having one?
I bought a couple of Slim-Jim style snack sausages from a vending machine a while back, ate one, left the other still in the opened wrapper in the side pocket of my laptop bag. Kitteh went nuts trying to get at it. LOL.
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:49:48am |
re: #102 Turu The Terrible
Kitteh+Slim Jim = horrendous GAS!!
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:50:46am |
re: #103 reloadingisnotahobby
Kitteh+Slim Jim = horrendous GAS!!
Do you put both in some kind of stew?
/
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:52:52am |
re: #104 Cannadian Club Akbar
Yes…Low flame for 15 min…
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Varek Raith Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:53:03am |
re: #104 Cannadian Club Akbar
Do you put both in some kind of stew?
/
Nice knowing ya, CCA!
Image: basement-cat.jpg
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:54:14am |
Our local gas prices will drop 4-5 cent tommorow!
I know because I purchased 72 gal yesterday!
Happens every time!
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webevintage Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:55:40am |
re: #91 reine.de.tout
Wow.
That sounds EXACTLY like me, every bit of it.
Except I don’t mind a driving trip.
Unless it’s across Texas - there doesn’t seem to be much of anything after you pass up San Antonio.
I’ll be glad when they finally get us those transporters we were promised.
Each time a pet dies I promise myself we will not get another…but something always happens. A stray comes by and I can’t turn them away. One of our dogs died last year and even though I was sad I did have a bit of “One down 5 to go” then a cat had kittens under the house and then moved the rest of the kitties and left one behind and well, what are you gonna do?
Earlier this summer a neighbor moved and left their damn cat behind and now he lives at my house outside until I can save up enough money to get him fixed.
We are back to 4 cats and 3 dogs.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:55:47am |
All right. I need to make some phone calls. Then take a nap and get a shower. Think I’ll combine the last two. BBL.
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Stanghazi Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:56:01am |
re: #107 reloadingisnotahobby
Our local gas prices will drop 4-5 cent tommorow!
I know because I purchased 72 gal yesterday!
Happens every time!
LOL!
I celebrated yesterday on fill up - 2.97! woo, under 3! (yes, SoCal)
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:57:30am |
re: #110 Stanley Sea
I paid less than three buck ..ah one time while in Cali in July!
I was shocked!
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webevintage Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:57:41am |
re: #110 Stanley Sea
LOL!
I celebrated yesterday on fill up - 2.97! woo, under 3! (yes, SoCal)
wow.
Whenever I fill up I always wonder what you all are paying.
Last week when I got gas I paid 2.65.
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Sep 2, 2010 11:59:25am |
re: #112 webevintage
That’s like Oklahoma prices!
Everyone gets great mpg…in Ok.not hump or hill in the state!
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:00:09pm |
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HoosierHoops Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:01:54pm |
re: #114 reloadingisnotahobby
That’s like Oklahoma prices!
Everyone gets great mpg…in Ok.not hump or hill in the state!
T minus 16 days till the moving truck takes my stuff to Oklahoma…
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Varek Raith Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:02:41pm |
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:03:42pm |
re: #116 HoosierHoops
Congrats…..I think!!
Ooooooooooklahoma where the wind comes
crashing down the plain…………
Come everyone !Sing it with me!!
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webevintage Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:04:52pm |
re: #114 reloadingisnotahobby
That’s like Oklahoma prices!
Everyone gets great mpg…in Ok.not hump or hill in the state!
I’m in Central Arkansas….
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:05:39pm |
re: #117 Varek Raith
The metric system is of the devil.
Yes!
I hate metric caliber nomenclature!
5. this and 7.62 that…It’s a fu%&ng .223 and .308 Damn it!!
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McSpiff Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:06:08pm |
re: #115 reloadingisnotahobby
Pfft dollars. What do you think I am? Some commie?
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:06:13pm |
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reine.de.tout Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:06:26pm |
re: #108 webevintage
I’ll be glad when they finally get us those transporters we were promised.
Each time a pet dies I promise myself we will not get another…but something always happens. A stray comes by and I can’t turn them away. One of our dogs died last year and even though I was sad I did have a bit of “One down 5 to go” then a cat had kittens under the house and then moved the rest of the kitties and left one behind and well, what are you gonna do?
Earlier this summer a neighbor moved and left their damn cat behind and now he lives at my house outside until I can save up enough money to get him fixed.
We are back to 4 cats and 3 dogs.
{webe}
I feel it.
We now have one dog, 4 cats. We’ve had as many as 6 cats. Same thing - they show up - we take care of ‘em. Also, the raccoons, which love cat food. I quit leaving cat food out at night to sort of try to discourage strays and raccoons - the raccoons figured it out very quickly, and now show up during the day. I can’t tell you how much cat food we go through in a week.
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lawhawk Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:06:43pm |
re: #112 webevintage
Heh… last week … 2.35 at a gas station in Fair Lawn, NJ for regular (credit). You can find even cheaper if you pay cash at some stations…
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spikester Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:06:49pm |
sort of OT…but
milk does not come from plastic jugs and
gasoline does not start at the pump and if you want to know whats going on in GOM this is a good place to start
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:07:00pm |
re: #22 Cannadian Club Akbar
I think the 11 killed with Deepwater Horizon were killed in the initial blast. These guys take safety pretty seriously.
That was my understanding as well—the guys on D.H. had no chance to try and get out.
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McSpiff Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:07:23pm |
re: #124 lawhawk
Heh… last week … 2.35 at a gas station in Fair Lawn, NJ for regular (credit). You can find even cheaper if you pay cash at some stations…
Isn’t that against the merchants agreement with Visa and MasterCard?
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reine.de.tout Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:07:41pm |
re: #112 webevintage
wow.
Whenever I fill up I always wonder what you all are paying.
Last week when I got gas I paid 2.65.
I don’t know if you have an iPhone. But there’s an app that will find your location, and show you the prices at the stations in your area. A difference, sometimes, of 10 cents a gallon.
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HoosierHoops Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:08:00pm |
re: #118 reloadingisnotahobby
Congrats…I think!!
Ooooklahoma where the wind comes
crashing down the plain…
Come everyone !Sing it with me!!
My New place is right next to OU…I’ll be walking Winston on Campus this Fall…
Everybody loves Winston…
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:08:29pm |
re: #124 lawhawk
Heh… last week … 2.35 at a gas station in Fair Lawn, NJ for regular (credit). You can find even cheaper if you pay cash at some stations…
Do people carry CASH in N.J.!!
Is that safe?
/
That’s a great price!!
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HoosierHoops Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:12:15pm |
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:12:54pm |
re: #133 HoosierHoops
The little red spoiled dog…
Spoiled?
He’s not wearing a sweater in the pool!!
LOL
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webevintage Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:13:33pm |
re: #130 HoosierHoops
My New place is right next to OU…I’ll be walking Winston on Campus this Fall…
Everybody loves Winston…
We will need pictures of the cuteness…
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:14:20pm |
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spikester Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:14:37pm |
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DaddyG Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:15:42pm |
re: #9 Major Tom
…And does anyone know the substantial differences between a drilling rig and an oil platform?
One screws and the other sucks.
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:18:38pm |
In thirteen minutes I will have my 40 hours!
Holiday weekend..hmmm..What to do?
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Stanghazi Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:18:58pm |
re: #138 spikester
must have been the way I linked
[Link: www.gomr.boemre.gov…]
[Link: www.gomr.boemre.gov…]
oh well
Well hell, that 2nd link is quite depressing.
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DaddyG Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:19:59pm |
re: #117 Varek Raith
The metric system is of the devil.
Why don’t they use a sensible system based on the length of the Kings forearm or something? /
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spikester Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:20:04pm |
re: #141 Stanley Sea
it’s a hard life out there
mining is worse
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:23:16pm |
re: #130 HoosierHoops
My New place is right next to OU…I’ll be walking Winston on Campus this Fall…
Everybody loves Winston…
Haven’t been down to Norman for years (mid to late 90s) but sort of liked it.
Watch out for the engineering students, they’re sort of nutty.
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HoosierHoops Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:24:05pm |
re: #137 reloadingisnotahobby
Yes we will!!
Dogs are “Babe” magnets!!
Next month I’ll change my Avatar from our pool in Indiana to the OU Campus..
Actually Winston is just loved by kids.. When we go to PetSmart he is like a Rock Star with the 12 year olds…The kids just love him and little Winston loves kids..He is such a ham…It’s almost embarrassing the way he acts towards kids… You know Winston..Rolling on your back begging for Kids to rub your belly is shameless…He does it so well
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:29:32pm |
re: #142 DaddyG
Why don’t they use a sensible system based on the length of the Kings forearm or something? /
That wasn’t his arm!
That’s why he was the KING!
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:32:10pm |
re: #145 HoosierHoops
Our”Buddy” SCARES the shit out of adults!!
He’s a big boob and a lover but looks scary.
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M. Dubious Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:32:31pm |
re: #116 HoosierHoops
Are you comfortable with OK yet? Like I wrote you a few months back or so, there are lots of good people in that state. At least when I lived there. Hope it still holds true.
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:33:46pm |
Have a great holiday weekend and be SAFE!!
…Or your all FIRED!
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HoosierHoops Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:34:31pm |
re: #148 harald
Are you comfortable with OK yet? Like I wrote you a few months back or so, there are lots of good people in that state. At least when I lived there. Hope it still holds true.
I spent 3 weeks there.. I like it there..The politics are crazy… the people are great…
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M. Dubious Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:40:42pm |
re: #150 HoosierHoops
My experience as well. But you gotta love the people.
I`m sorry. I get sentimental. Sometimes.
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Major Tom Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:42:32pm |
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Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Sep 2, 2010 12:45:59pm |
re: #152 Major Tom
That sucks… The platform, I mean…
It’s Mega-Rig, she’s gone from suck to blow!
Thank you for pressing the self-destruct button.
/
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I Am Kreniigh! Thu, Sep 2, 2010 2:20:04pm |
re: #20 spikester
yeah that’s kind of strange
be interesting to see what brought that about
lack of training prob
Almost perfect, except for the extra syllables in the second line.
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ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Sep 2, 2010 2:33:59pm |
re: #145 HoosierHoops
Very cool. I’m a Political Science/Geography major here at OU.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Sep 2, 2010 2:57:19pm |
So really, we know from post BP catastrophe reporting, that there had been a revolving door for oil officials into regulatory positions and rubber stamp for the oil industry for years when it came to regulating these ventures.
This was going on for years. The default assumption should be that these rigs are simply not safe.
Do we need yet another catastrophe before we wise up?
Why spend billions on something that will only help the oil sector, and not help domestic oil prices at all, since there is no such thing as a domestic oil economy? Oil is fungible.
Why take the risk?
Those billions could easily be put to building reactors, wind farms and smart grids.
That would actually get us towards being energy independent and in the long run make our economy vastly stronger. It would also help save us from eventual eco-collapse.
But would be a sensible and non-suicidal thing to do. After all, those who run America have decided that your nations future, children’s lives and many species are worth sacrificing on the alter of enriching oil ticks. Many Americans are convinced this is a good thing too.
Why do people not get this?
All oil production and all fossil fuel production will eventually stop. It will either happen in an intelligent controlled manner in the near term - where we save our civilization, or it will all come crashing down when people worry much more about food, water and shelter than they do about oil, and a whole barrel full of dollars will be more useful as kindling.
In the mean time though, the oil ticks are gorging. Their parasitic heads deeply embedded into the flesh of America, and all too many Americans see the bloated, blood filled abdomen as something good.
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