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1 Obdicut  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:19:50pm

Boy, Willow sure has aged badly.

2 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:21:15pm

Well you have to admire the little u. Can't read what's coming from the planes. If I were a counter-protester in New York last weekend, I would have had a sign that said "No exposed tities at ground zero."

3 DaddyG  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:22:40pm

A memorial to the tragic attack of two suburban office buildings by chartreuse sharks!

4 Kragar  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:23:17pm

No, Mosque U, LADY!

5 Stanghazi  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:23:44pm

Add to your laughter, read TheMudflats take on the Palin Beck Rally

[Link: www.themudflats.net...]

6 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:26:11pm

re: #1 Obdicut

Boy, Willow sure has aged badly.

Yours was better than mine, I was going to make an Ogra from the Dark Crystal joke

7 Nervous Norvous  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:26:30pm

Grond Zero! Wasn't that the name of the battering Ram the Orcs used in Lord of the Rings?

8 DaddyG  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:29:03pm

It would be kind of fun to get a big red sharpie and run around protests correcting grammar on signs.

It'd probably get me a free nose job for the effort though.

9 DaddyG  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:29:43pm

re: #2 HappyWarrior

Well you have to admire the little u. Can't read what's coming from the planes. If I were a counter-protester in New York last weekend, I would have had a sign that said "No exposed tities at ground zero."

Tripping hazard./

10 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:29:49pm

See, if it were my sign and I finished it, and then noticed that I'd misspelled an incredibly simple word in huge honking black letters, I'd probably sit back down and do it over, rather than make myself look like a complete idiot in front of hundreds of people.

I'm just a perfectionist, I guess.

11 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:31:06pm

re: #8 DaddyG

It would be kind of fun to get a big red sharpie and run around protests correcting grammar on signs.

It'd probably get me a free nose job for the effort though.

Just wear a tricorn hat and tell them you're "official".

12 Obdicut  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:31:36pm

re: #10 Charles

But you'd keep the Fisher-Price planes attacking the punch-cards, right?

13 DaddyG  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:32:15pm

re: #10 Charles

See, if it were my sign and I finished it, and then noticed that I'd misspelled an incredibly simple word in huge honking black letters, I'd probably sit back down and do it over, rather than make myself look like a complete idiot in front of hundreds of people.

I'm just a perfectionist, I guess.

Just make sure you footnote the change. /

14 jaunte  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:33:23pm

re: #10 Charles

It's that whole $.69 poster board repurchase that's the big barrier.

15 Blue Shark  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:33:46pm

So much stupid...

...so little time!

16 Kragar  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:34:25pm

I'm interested in what the small print has to say.

17 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:35:08pm

re: #16 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm interested in what the small print has to say.

Me too. Squinting like crazy here and I can't even make out any letters.

18 Stanghazi  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:36:18pm

re: #17 HappyWarrior

Me too. Squinting like crazy here and I can't even make out any letters.

I think one plane is called the "Refudiate"

I'm guessing though.

19 Kragar  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:36:41pm

And if you're going to draw building, would it kill you to bust out a yard stick and try for straight lines?

20 tnguitarist  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:38:56pm

I sincerely hope she had her grandchild draw that poster, too.

21 jaunte  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:39:08pm

You will know them by their signs.

Plan Ah
ead

22 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:39:13pm

re: #10 Charles

Well, in this case, she might have had the best spelled sign. After all she looked like in idiot, but only in front of hundreds of other idiots.

23 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:39:54pm

Full disclosure announcement!

I should note, since it's the topic under discussion today, that I also recently deleted several (3 or 4, I'm not sure) early LGF posts about the Flight 93 memorial controversy, that were written before it became clear to me that the story was complete and utter bunk being promoted by loons. (I realized that years ago, by the way.)

I deleted these posts because I noticed from our referral logs that they were being linked to in an attempt to resurrect the controversy again, and I want no part of that.

This is a story I should never have believed, and one of the few real regrets I have about what I've covered.

24 deranged cat  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:40:23pm

that is one childish drawing..

i'm seriously considering a subscription, cuz a twitter ad for Freedom Works is being displayed. blech.

25 tnguitarist  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:43:27pm

re: #23 Charles

Are you talking about the whole 'crescent' thing? I saw something on that recently, but it might have been in some comments over at the stalker place.

26 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:44:39pm

re: #25 tnguitarist

Yes, that.

27 freetoken  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:45:27pm

re: #23 Charles

I think it is a very respectable to not only change one's opinions but even more so to then later realize why. There are plenty of words I've written years ago, and said, that I now wish I had done differently.

28 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:49:26pm

re: #26 Charles

Yes, that.

That whole nontroversy reads like the "Proctor and Gamble=satanism' cult.

29 wrenchwench  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:49:38pm

re: #23 Charles

No coincidence that fervent promoters of that are fervent stalkers now.

30 JamesWI  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:50:01pm

/// How do we know that it isn't a left-wing plant? I'm not saying it is, I'm just asking questions.

/(one more sarc tag, just to make sure)

31 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:52:46pm

re: #27 freetoken

I think it is a very respectable to not only change one's opinions but even more so to then later realize why. There are plenty of words I've written years ago, and said, that I now wish I had done differently.

I have to agree with you and I feel the same way about some of my past writings and opinions. Personally I feel beliefs and philosophies are constantly changing since we're by and large constantly reading new things, hearing new perspectives, etc. A good example of this is how I went from being a total dove on foreign policy to a more realist position after I took an international relations class. I realized things were more complicated than I thought they were.

32 Stanghazi  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:54:00pm

Honestly I had not heard of the Flight 93 memorial nontroversy. I am shocked at it actually, and thank my crescent and star that I missed it. What a paranoid crock of shit. This blog was what it was and is what it is now. It's going to be a toughie if people are digging through old comments (posts, probably not, but the comments yes) Hang tough is all I can say.

Being on the side of right will always win in the end.

33 samuraishake  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:56:04pm

re: #23 Charles

Yeah, that's what the weirdos have been tweeting at me, and posting on my blog. When I try to explain the advantages of not having a petrified mind, I get a deer-in-the-headlights look.

34 tnguitarist  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:56:23pm

What happened to protesters that actually, you know......protested? These lazy assholes just sit around in their lawn chairs and yell at the top of their lungs. Look out, if Freedomworks ever makes a large-scale Hoveround purchase, they'll be able to march!

35 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:57:03pm

re: #34 tnguitarist

What happened to protesters that actually, you know...protested? These lazy assholes just sit around in their lawn chairs and yell at the top of their lungs. Look out, if Freedomworks ever makes a large-scale Hoveround purchase, they'll be able to march!

We Shall Overeat.

36 Randall Gross  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:57:38pm

re: #10 Charles

See, if it were my sign and I finished it, and then noticed that I'd misspelled an incredibly simple word in huge honking black letters, I'd probably sit back down and do it over, rather than make myself look like a complete idiot in front of hundreds of people.

I'm just a perfectionist, I guess.

Does that sign have the numbers 1389 over to the right? If so you know who it might be...

37 reine.de.tout  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:59:16pm

re: #36 Thanos

Does that sign have the numbers 1389 over to the right? If so you know who it might be...

Looks like it to me.

38 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 2:59:26pm

re: #36 Thanos

Does that sign have the numbers 1389 over to the right? If so you know who it might be...

It does look like '1389' there, but I can't see what else it says.

39 avanti  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:00:15pm

re: #23 Charles

Full disclosure announcement!

I should note, since it's the topic under discussion today, that I also recently deleted several (3 or 4, I'm not sure) early LGF posts about the Flight 93 memorial controversy, that were written before it became clear to me that the story was complete and utter bunk being promoted by loons. (I realized that years ago, by the way.)

I deleted these posts because I noticed from our referral logs that they were being linked to in an attempt to resurrect the controversy again, and I want no part of that.

This is a story I should never have believed, and one of the few real regrets I have about what I've covered.

What next from the loons, links to the early comments about AGW ?

40 darthstar  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:00:17pm

re: #38 Charles

It does look like '1389' there, but I can't see what else it says.

Who is 1389 in reference to?

41 Randall Gross  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:00:20pm

re: #38 Charles

Me either, so I'm just up to wild assed speculation. Disregard.

42 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:00:49pm

re: #39 avanti

What next from the loons, links to the early comments about AGW ?

Tim Blair has already done several rants about that.

43 jamesfirecat  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:00:53pm

Would it be unkind to say this woman reminds me of her....

44 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:01:24pm

re: #40 darthstar

Who is 1389 in reference to?

Wild guess here but perhaps the battle of Kosovo where the Ottoman Turks beat the Serbs.

45 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:02:22pm

re: #40 darthstar

Who is 1389 in reference to?

Oh, just another seriously deranged stalker, that's all.

46 Randall Gross  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:02:47pm

re: #44 HappyWarrior

That's what, not who. The who is a psychotic serbian nationalist stalker who is part of that whole "friends of Spencer" Euronazi axis.

47 Randall Gross  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:03:42pm

re: #46 Thanos

Again, pure wild assed speculation on my part, disregard.

48 avanti  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:03:50pm

re: #42 Charles

Tim Blair has already done several rants about that.

I'd better make it clear that I have nothing to do with Avanti condoms as was posted early on, it's the cars I collect./

49 allegro  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:05:26pm

re: #48 avanti

Condoms... cars... what's the diff?/

50 Randall Gross  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:05:37pm

back to the grind, see you all later.

51 darthstar  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:05:44pm

re: #48 avanti

Those are pretty cars.

52 Eclectic Infidel  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:06:10pm

Bad signs make your side look bad.

At one rally, a couple of years ago now, a Kahanist showed up and held a sighn that read, "The war is not over until all of Gaza is destroyed." Guess which sign is now proudly displayed on anti-Israel/anti-war sites on left-wing blogs and announcement sites? That one sign is used to demonize all of Israel and her supporters.

53 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:07:20pm

re: #46 Thanos

That's what, not who. The who is a psychotic serbian nationalist stalker who is part of that whole "friends of Spencer" Euronazi axis.

Ah I knew it had something to do with the Serbs. Knew about Spencer being all chummy with a Serb nationalist too.

54 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:07:47pm

re: #10 Charles

See, if it were my sign and I finished it, and then noticed that I'd misspelled an incredibly simple word in huge honking black letters, I'd probably sit back down and do it over, rather than make myself look like a complete idiot in front of hundreds of people.

I'm just a perfectionist, I guess.

Here's the same sign, held up by someone else!

55 freetoken  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:08:47pm

Is the server having hiccups? I seem to be having a hard time opening windows for pages/comments.

56 Stanghazi  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:09:19pm

re: #54 Alouette

Here's the same sign, held up by someone else!

Good find. It says "remember" and "about 3000 people died"

57 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:09:55pm

re: #55 freetoken

Is the server having hiccups? I seem to be having a hard time opening windows for pages/comments.

Not here -- must be a local network issue.

58 darthstar  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:10:11pm

re: #54 Alouette

Here's the same sign, held up by someone else!

Maybe they took the original to Kinko's and got copies made it was so good. //

59 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:10:56pm

Another lovely image from Geller's rally: "No Muslim Immigration".

[Link: www.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

60 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:11:19pm

re: #54 Alouette

Here's the same sign, held up by someone else!

Same signholder, doing the "Lost Horizon" transformation at the rally.

61 Randall Gross  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:11:37pm

re: #54 Alouette

Here's the same sign, held up by someone else!

"About 3000 people died 1389"

Daughter? Who knows.

How can anyone take someone seriously who's remembering 9/11 and protesting but WHO CAN"T BE BOTHERED TO LOOK UP HOW MANY REALLY DIED?

/gggrrrrrr arrrrgghgggg sorry for the all caps... won't happen again, now I'm out

62 Obdicut  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:12:15pm

re: #59 Charles

Dear lord, that made me jump.

It's like this is all a sick game to these fuckers. They get to get all hated up and not think about any consequences.

63 freetoken  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:14:25pm

Well, I tried to put up a Pages entry, but when I went to check it out the body had been eaten (perhaps a missed tag?) Since then I've not been able to open any new LGF windows.

64 jamesfirecat  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:14:35pm

re: #59 Charles

Another lovely image from Geller's rally: "No Muslim Immigration".

[Link: www.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

I'm pretty sure that actually says "integration...."

65 darthstar  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:14:48pm

OT: Lloyd Marshall Jr. - total asshole. Prays for the victims of the San Bruno gas explosion and spews hate in the same LTE...

Divine judgment

First, I pray for those families who suffered in the San Bruno pipeline blast; this is a tragedy that could've been corrected with the right care being applied beforehand.

However, on a more divine level: This blast can be viewed as God's divine judgment upon San Fransicko (sic) for its ultra-leftist and anti-normal way of doing things, and for that sad excuse of a judge who overturned the will of the people in his anti-Proposition 8 ruling.

God is speaking, folks. Are you listening?

Lloyd Marshall Jr., Lockport, N.Y.


Read more: [Link: www.sfgate.com...]

66 avanti  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:15:13pm

re: #64 jamesfirecat

I'm pretty sure that actually says "integration..."

Back of the bus for you.

67 Gus  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:15:34pm

EDL thug at Geller/Spencer rally.

[Link: www.flickr.com...]

68 wrenchwench  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:15:39pm

re: #59 Charles

Another lovely image from Geller's rally: "No Muslim Immigration".

[Link: www.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

That might be a moby at a counter-demo, judging by the sign behind it.

69 Obdicut  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:16:04pm

re: #65 darthstar

God had gas, apparently.

70 Kragar  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:16:12pm

re: #65 darthstar

OT: Lloyd Marshall Jr. - total asshole. Prays for the victims of the San Bruno gas explosion and spews hate in the same LTE...

That motherfucker.

71 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:16:38pm

re: #63 freetoken

Well, I tried to put up a Pages entry, but when I went to check it out the body had been eaten (perhaps a missed tag?) Since then I've not been able to open any new LGF windows.

Sounds like it's time to quit the browser and relaunch.

I fixed that Page for you -- it was a mangled HTML tag that caused it to disappear.

72 Eclectic Infidel  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:17:19pm

re: #59 Charles

That's awful. It really is.

73 darthstar  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:17:34pm

What's the EDGamma?
[Link: www.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

74 Stanghazi  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:17:43pm

re: #63 freetoken

Well, I tried to put up a Pages entry, but when I went to check it out the body had been eaten (perhaps a missed tag?) Since then I've not been able to open any new LGF windows.

It's there. Excellent page btw.

75 freetoken  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:18:20pm

re: #71 Charles

Thanks.

BTW, when reading that article by Wright I thought he at least should have given you a hat tip for helping expose Geller's complicity in the idiocy.

76 wrenchwench  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:19:09pm

re: #73 darthstar

What's the EDGamma?
[Link: www.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

ΓOΓ

77 darthstar  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:20:03pm

re: #76 wrenchwench

ΓOΓ

I think you just discovered the LOLCat fraternity name.

78 deranged cat  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:20:13pm

re: #65 darthstar

OT: Lloyd Marshall Jr. - total asshole. Prays for the victims of the San Bruno gas explosion and spews hate in the same LTE...

what a huge assface.

79 Kragar  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:20:18pm

re: #76 wrenchwench

ΓOΓ

Alternate characters are the tools of the devil.

80 ProMayaLiberal  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:21:03pm

re: #73 darthstar

This EDL moron is holding the flag upside down, I think. There are lights on, but nobody is home, to put it nicely about that guy.

81 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:22:19pm

re: #65 darthstar

OT: Lloyd Marshall Jr. - total asshole. Prays for the victims of the San Bruno gas explosion and spews hate in the same LTE...

Oh Christian love.

82 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:22:43pm

the irony of this sign is rich

83 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:23:30pm

re: #82 Dreggas

the irony of this sign is rich

As is them quoting FDR.

84 freetoken  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:23:36pm

Closed all my open LGF windows and opened a new one... and now everything is fine.

Computers - reducing productivity everywhere....

85 Eclectic Infidel  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:24:39pm

The t-shirt this woman has on is disgusting. I wonder if she has grandchildren?

[Link: www.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

86 Gus  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:25:15pm

The Shrieking Harpy

Image: thug2.jpg

Image: thugr.jpg

87 darthstar  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:25:17pm

Got Botox?
(NSFPeoplewhojustate)
[Link: www.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

88 Lidane  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:25:18pm

See, kids-- this is why you draw out a poster or sign in pencil first, THEN you do it again in marker.

[Link: www.ehow.com...]

89 darthstar  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:26:24pm

re: #86 Gus 802

The Shrieking Harpy

Image: thug2.jpg

Image: thugr.jpg

That's fuckin' gross.

90 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:27:38pm

re: #84 freetoken

Closed all my open LGF windows and opened a new one... and now everything is fine.

Computers - reducing productivity everywhere...

Which browser is that?

91 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:28:08pm

Hey Breitbart, look to your left

Media Matters was present at the September 12 event and captured the following photos of signs carried by ralliers, including a photo of Andrew Breitbart standing near a sign that read, "Obama is half white, half foreign, and all wrong for America!":

Image: 912rally-20100912-breitbart.jpg

92 Stanghazi  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:28:27pm

re: #85 eclectic infidel

The t-shirt this woman has on is disgusting. I wonder if she has grandchildren?

[Link: www.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

Yes, and they are afraid to visit.

93 Gus  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:28:49pm

re: #89 darthstar

That's fuckin' gross.

Here's another.

Image: thug3.jpg

94 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:31:52pm

re: #91 Killgore Trout

Hey Breitbart, look to your left

Image: 912rally-20100912-breitbart.jpg

Yeah no racism there, it's just a liberal conspiracy to defame the patriot teapartiers! Seriously, what's wrong with these people?

95 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:32:03pm

re: #84 freetoken

Closed all my open LGF windows and opened a new one... and now everything is fine.

Computers Microsoft- reducing productivity everywhere...


I have issues with the MS codebase for years..Don't get me wrong..I've made a living off of MS for 10 years fixing their crap OS...
You know..When you allow a 14 year old to write OCX wrappers to call into the Kernel in VB..You might..Just might have security issues in the OS...
Apple has never allowed calls into ring zero of the OS...And the OS is pure effen UNIX..Fast and safe...

96 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:33:54pm

re: #91 Killgore Trout

Hey Breitbart, look to your left

Image: 912rally-20100912-breitbart.jpg

That signmaker has left a broad trail. (Google cache)

[Link: www.google.com...]

97 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:33:58pm
98 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:34:08pm

re: #94 HappyWarrior

Yeah no racism there, it's just a liberal conspiracy to defame the patriot teapartiers! Seriously, what's wrong with these people?

I think Newt's comment this weekend about Obama being a Kenyan anti-colonialist means the they aren't going to keep denying the racist charge much longer. It's pretty out in the open now.

99 JamesWI  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:34:19pm

re: #82 Dreggas

the irony of this sign is rich

Wait, I thought FDR was one of the "Worst Americans of All Time"!!!!!!11!!

100 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:34:47pm

re: #97 Charles

He'll claim it was a leftist infiltrator.

101 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:35:43pm

re: #97 Charles

The second pic down is pretty good too....
"Build the mosque in NY and see what happens!!!"

102 avanti  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:36:02pm

OMG, Tennessee Titans Mascot eats cheerleader.

103 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:36:29pm

re: #98 Killgore Trout

I think Newt's comment this weekend about Obama being a Kenyan anti-colonialist means the they aren't going to keep denying the racist charge much longer. It's pretty out in the open now.

Yeah pretty much. Someone here put it brilliantly after Newt said that: "What could be more American than being anti colonialist." Seriously these people are bigoted assholes and I will continue to regard them as such until they prove otherwise. I also liked the sign that had the Islamic crescent and Soviet sickle and hammer. Nice disconnect there jackasses.

104 Gus  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:38:57pm
105 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:40:19pm

re: #104 Gus 802

More thugs.

Image: spencer.jpg

Image: wildersy.jpg

Never let a dermatologist shoot your publicity photos.

106 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:40:41pm

re: #61 Thanos

"About 3000 people died 1389"

Daughter? Who knows.

How can anyone take someone seriously who's remembering 9/11 and protesting but WHO CAN"T BE BOTHERED TO LOOK UP HOW MANY REALLY DIED?

/gggrrr arrrgghggg sorry for the all caps... won't happen again, now I'm out

Is it the same sign? The one the older woman is holding up is torn on one side and glued to a red poster board backing.

107 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:41:23pm

Wow, they've been pretty busy out there in the me-hating blogosphere today. There's another outrageous outrage brewing because I posted about AFA's Bryan Fischer saying all Muslims were inbred and that's why they're terrorists.

Apparently because I linked to a New York Times article in 2003 about a Saudi Arabian public health study on inbreeding in that country, now I'm not allowed to comment on Bryan Fischer's blatantly bigoted statement claiming that all Muslims are inbred. If I do, I'm a hypocrite, or being paid, or crazy, or something.

I know. Idiots.

108 Gus  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:43:38pm

re: #105 Decatur Deb

Never let a dermatologist shoot your publicity photos.

The eye of derangement.

Image: geertwilders.jpg

109 Obdicut  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:45:57pm

re: #107 Charles

The whole 'inbreeding' thing reminds me of a Yogi Berra-ism or something.

"Nobody goes there, it's too crowded."

"All 1.5 billion of them are inbreeding with each other."

110 Eclectic Infidel  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:45:59pm

re: #107 Charles

Truth is not on their side, so they become petty instead. Expect more of it.

111 Gus  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:46:11pm

re: #107 Charles

Wow, they've been pretty busy out there in the me-hating blogosphere today. There's another outrageous outrage brewing because I posted about AFA's Bryan Fischer saying all Muslims were inbred and that's why they're terrorists.

Apparently because I linked to a New York Times article in 2003 about a Saudi Arabian public health study on inbreeding in that country, now I'm not allowed to comment on Bryan Fischer's blatantly bigoted statement claiming that all Muslims are inbred. If I do, I'm a hypocrite, or being paid, or crazy, or something.

I know. Idiots.

Let's see. That fascist hate monger Bryan Fischer is going to speak at the Values Voters Summit where a lot of GOP presidential "hopefuls" (Romney, Huckabee, etc.) will also appear. He also speaks for a large RR lobbying group, the AFA... Oh, nevermind. Wingnuts don't have a grasp on reality.

112 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:48:40pm

re: #109 Obdicut

The whole 'inbreeding' thing reminds me of a Yogi Berra-ism or something.

"Nobody goes there, it's too crowded."

"All 1.5 billion of them are inbreeding with each other."

Ah I always loved Yogisms. But yeah how does a group that has a huge chunk of hte overall population inbreed with each other? Guess facts don't matter. Anything to demonize Muslims for these people. Great job fucktards, you certainly are showing a "welcoming" image to people who want to emigrate here.

113 Stanghazi  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:50:20pm

From the TPM write up on the Geller/Spencer/Wilders protest

Breitbart:

You're not controversial. Katie Couric is controversial. Charlie Gibson is controversial. Brian Williams is controversial. The New York Times is controversial. Those people that represent the minority are acting as if you're somehow doing something that is morally incorrect. Well, I think the term that we're talking about is politically incorrect.

Something makes me think Katie Couric is onto some scoop that he's trying to preempt. This is the 2nd time I've seen him mention her by name....

[Link: tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

114 Gus  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:51:42pm

re: #113 Stanley Sea

From the TPM write up on the Geller/Spencer/Wilders protest

Breitbart:

Something makes me think Katie Couric is onto some scoop that he's trying to preempt. This is the 2nd time I've seen him mention her by name...

[Link: tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

Charlie Gibson is controversial?

M'kay.

115 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:53:20pm

re: #113 Stanley Sea

From the TPM write up on the Geller/Spencer/Wilders protest

Breitbart:

Something makes me think Katie Couric is onto some scoop that he's trying to preempt. This is the 2nd time I've seen him mention her by name...

[Link: tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

I wasn't aware that my state had an anti-Sharia task force. Heh, what a bunch of loons. I just love how these same people who fearmongrel about sharia are the same ones who shout loud when you say you want seoparation of church and state.

116 engineer cat  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:54:11pm

i have been tracked down and stalked!

he who scoffs at danger said...
was this you?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

you gotta read this:

wristaction.blogspot.com/2010/09/charles-johnson-of-lgf-now-deleting.html
September 13, 2010 1:24 AM

117 Stanghazi  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:54:29pm

re: #114 Gus 802

Charlie Gibson is controversial?

M'kay.

In what respect Charlie?

118 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 3:57:27pm

re: #116 engineer dog

I think that one is a lefty stalker. A die-hard from the LGF Watch days. Totally obsessed with proving how evil I am.

119 Winny Spencer  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:00:40pm

re: #117 Stanley Sea

Well, both he and Couric embarrassed their mama grizzly....

120 Reginald Perrin  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:02:52pm

re: #118 Charles

I think that one is a lefty stalker. A die-hard from the LGF Watch days. Totally obsessed with proving how evil I am.

I noticed that the airhead M from the stalker blog left a comment on that thread, does that make her a lefty?
///

121 calochortus  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:04:17pm

re: #115 HappyWarrior

I wasn't aware that my state had an anti-Sharia task force. Heh, what a bunch of loons. I just love how these same people who fearmongrel about sharia are the same ones who shout loud when you say you want seoparation of church and state.

I'll bet that anti-Sharia task force helps you sleep better at night//
I'm in California which has the advantage(?) of being utterly ungovernable, so Sharia law wouldn't stand a chance...

122 Eclectic Infidel  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:04:35pm

Okay, this is a sign that obviously opposes the community center but I am duly impressed with the artwork:

[Link: www.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

Now this could be a person worth having a conversation with, regarding the prominent issues surrounding Park 51.

123 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:05:03pm

You know, I don't want a mosque at Ground Zero, either.

I think the Japanese would be offended, because they've already put up some memorials in those cities.

Oh, wait, what?

Twin Towers? Nobody's going to put a mosque there, either.

124 Political Atheist  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:05:47pm

OT
Just got my computer back with a huge upgrade-Adobe Master Collection-Everything to edit or work on video, sound, stills, and put it out for about anything-Web blogs (Pages!) youtube Vimeo output the works. Finally a computer suite that can keep up with a 7D HDSLR. Happy Dance!

125 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:06:17pm

re: #121 calochortus

I'll bet that anti-Sharia task force helps you sleep better at night//
I'm in California which has the advantage(?) of being utterly ungovernable, so Sharia law wouldn't stand a chance...

Oh man you have no idea how better I feel that we have an anti Sharia task force dedicated to stopping Muslims in my state. I mean they're only 2.4% of the overall state population but someone's gotta stop them before they reach 3.0% :).

126 wrenchwench  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:07:25pm

re: #120 Reginald Perrin

I noticed that the airhead M from the stalker blog left a comment on that thread, does that make her a lefty?
///

And then another commenter tries to give the moron who made the post a clue about his misspelled word. To no avail.

127 ProMayaLiberal  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:07:37pm

re: #125 HappyWarrior

What state do you live in that has those numbers?

128 Eclectic Infidel  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:08:28pm

re: #121 calochortus

I'll bet that anti-Sharia task force helps you sleep better at night//
I'm in California which has the advantage(?) of being utterly ungovernable, so Sharia law wouldn't stand a chance...

We're far too diverse a group here in Cali to fall to the oppressive nature of Sharia. We like our booze, drugs, music, intellectualism, sex, and skin far too much to capitulate to such things anyway.

129 tum  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:08:47pm

It's been a while since I've found the time to read lgf. Your personal political journey over the last 9 years matches mine almost exactly. It's nice to see you're keeping it real! I always said lgf was a community of reason, not of extremism.

130 Gus  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:08:58pm

re: #116 engineer dog

i have been tracked down and stalked!

he who scoffs at danger said...
was this you?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

you gotta read this:

wristaction.blogspot.com/2010/09/charles-johnson-of-lgf-now-deleting.html
September 13, 2010 1:24 AM

That dude is a psycho.

131 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:09:22pm

re: #127 ProLifeLiberal

What state do you live in that has those numbers?

Virginia.

132 tum  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:09:53pm

Last comment was directed towards you Charles :-)

133 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:12:56pm

re: #128 eclectic infidel

We're far too diverse a group here in Cali to fall to the oppressive nature of Sharia. We like our booze, drugs, music, intellectualism, sex, and skin far too much to capitulate to such things anyway.

Most humans do. You just listed the real weapons in any successful clash of cultures. The intertubes make a great delivery system.

134 calochortus  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:14:19pm

re: #125 HappyWarrior

Well, you know that 3% number could be a tipping point allowing any minority group to take over. There seems to be a lot of worry about minorities of any sort seizing power from the majority.

135 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:15:46pm

re: #132 tum

Last comment was directed towards you Charles :-)

I'm stunned..A member of the 2004 class that didn't go insane and jump off the rightwing Glenn Beck Cliff...

136 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:16:40pm

re: #129 tum

It's been a while since I've found the time to read lgf. Your personal political journey over the last 9 years matches mine almost exactly. It's nice to see you're keeping it real! I always said lgf was a community of reason, not of extremism.

Thanks for the nice words!

137 reine.de.tout  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:16:49pm

re: #135 HoosierHoops

I'm stunned..A member of the 2004 class that didn't go insane and jump off the rightwing Glenn Beck Cliff...

Hoops - I sent you an e-mail earlier.
Didja get it?

138 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:17:36pm

BBL

139 deranged cat  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:17:52pm

re: #116 engineer dog

i have been tracked down and stalked!

he who scoffs at danger said...
was this you?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

you gotta read this:

wristaction.blogspot.com/2010/09/charles-johnson-o f-lgf-now-deleting.html
September 13, 2010 1:24 AM

i'm tempted to comment anonymously and say "THIS IS AN OUTRAGE, RABBLE, RABBLE!" but i figured it'd fall on deaf ears and be more trouble than it's worth.

140 calochortus  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:18:03pm

re: #128 eclectic infidel

You'd think the fact that the S.F. Bay Area has been steeped in sin for so long would indicate that God isn't out to destroy us. The earlier-mentioned guy who thinks God missed SF and blew up a gas pipeline in San Bruno as a punishment doesn't seem to be getting his geography straight. Or maybe San Bruno residents have been having more fun than I thought.

141 Eclectic Infidel  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:18:22pm

re: #133 Decatur Deb

Most humans do. You just listed the real weapons in any successful clash of cultures. The intertubes make a great delivery system.

I know. Incidentally, this is the sort of arguing I've used when discussing related issues with more paranoid-minded individuals. America is a huge nation. When we begin to hear that we aren't allowed to buy beer, wine, tequila at the local market; when we learn that our gfs, wives, daughters can't walk down the street without being assaulted by 2+ lust-filled followers of some local Imam, SHIT WILL HIT THE FAN.

And things will get ugly, very, very quickly.

I'm not worried about sharia taking over here.

142 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:18:22pm

re: #137 reine.de.tout

Hoops - I sent you an e-mail earlier.
Didja get it?

Yes I did...Kind regards Reine..You are really good people

143 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:19:33pm

re: #134 calochortus

Well, you know that 3% number could be a tipping point allowing any minority group to take over. There seems to be a lot of worry about minorities of any sort seizing power from the majority.


It really is messed up how the right here uses fear of minorities to get support. Everyone remembers hte George Allen macaca incident. What made it so outrageous to me really wasn't so much the slur in itself but the hint by Allen that the kid was somehow not American or Virginian.

144 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:19:58pm

I thought she was protesting a mosque at "Grôndzero", which I presumed to be a city in Bosnia.

145 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:22:25pm

La de da de da de dee

146 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:24:07pm

re: #145 Walter L. Newton

Any updates from Steve in the past week? I hope he's doing better.

147 calochortus  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:24:57pm

re: #141 eclectic infidel

When we lived in PA we had to go to the State Store for our tequila and wine. I can't tell you how much nicer it is to be able to buy it at normal retail establishments. Incredibly, since we've moved back to CA, despite the laxity of the local moral police, we haven't divorced, been involved in any drunken orgies, or done any of the other things we're supposed to be tempted to do in the absence of strict supervision.

148 calochortus  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:25:38pm

re: #144 negativ

Nah, too many vowels in it to be Bosnian.

149 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:26:19pm

re: #148 calochortus

Nah, too many vowels in it to be Bosnian.

grndzro

How's that?

150 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:26:43pm

re: #146 Killgore Trout

Any updates from Steve in the past week? I hope he's doing better.

No... I will call him tomorrow and report back. I'm still in my "work week" and have been a little busy. And tonight, instead of a normal evening, I have to substitute for the over night cashier/stocker, so I got a midnight to 8:30 coming up... just stopped by the computer for a moment, napping actually, but I'm off until Friday after tonight, I will try to run him down asap.

151 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:26:43pm

re: #149 EmmmieG

grndzro

How's that?

dobre

152 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:26:54pm

re: #118 Charles

I think that one is a lefty stalker. A die-hard from the LGF Watch days. Totally obsessed with proving how evil I am.

Whoever that guy is, he has absolutely no clue of how to construct a "throbbing memo"

153 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:27:00pm

Zdravstvuytye.

Why the Russians look so grumpy when they're saying hello.

154 calochortus  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:27:12pm

re: #149 EmmmieG

Perfect. Or should that be "Prfct"

155 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:30:12pm

re: #99 JamesWI

Wait, I thought FDR was one of the "Worst Americans of All Time"!!!11!!

That guy is clearly not a Real Tea Party Man anyway. He spelled it all correctly.

156 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:30:45pm

re: #155 SanFranciscoZionist

That guy is clearly not a Real Tea Party Man anyway. He spelled it all correctly.

Splling iz eliteist. :)

157 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:31:03pm

re: #143 HappyWarrior

It really is messed up how the right here uses fear of minorities to get support. Everyone remembers hte George Allen macaca incident. What made it so outrageous to me really wasn't so much the slur in itself but the hint by Allen that the kid was somehow not American or Virginian.

Huh? Are you trying to say that people with high melatonin levels in their skin (THE MARK OF CAIN!!!) aren't evil? You better go read between the lines of your bible some more or perhaps ask Pat Robertson for some intensive minority fear counseling.

///

158 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:31:43pm

re: #157 ausador

Huh? Are you trying to say that people with high melatonin levels in their skin (THE MARK OF CAIN!!!) aren't evil? You better go read between the lines of your bible some more or perhaps ask Pat Robertson for some intensive minority fear counseling.

///

I don't own a bible and you couldn't pay me to see Reverend Pat and go to Virginia Beach in one setting.

159 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:32:03pm

re: #118 Charles

I think that one is a lefty stalker. A die-hard from the LGF Watch days. Totally obsessed with proving how evil I am.

TWO fan clubs!

160 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:32:14pm

re: #147 calochortus

When we lived in PA we had to go to the State Store for our tequila and wine. I can't tell you how much nicer it is to be able to buy it at normal retail establishments. Incredibly, since we've moved back to CA, despite the laxity of the local moral police, we haven't divorced, been involved in any drunken orgies, or done any of the other things we're supposed to be tempted to do in the absence of strict supervision.

you really are missing out then, the drunken orgies are fun.

//

all kidding aside I love living here in Cali. I moved here when I was 18, from upstate NY. Hopped a greyhound with only two suitcases to my name and while it was a rough start for the first couple years i was able to launch my carreer and do a lot more than I ever would have if I'd stayed back east.

161 calochortus  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:33:15pm

re: #155 SanFranciscoZionist

That guy is clearly not a Real Tea Party Man anyway. He spelled it all correctly.

Unlike the sign thanking "Paster Jones". I couldn't help but wonder whether he pastes things, or eats the paste, or what?

162 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:33:47pm

re: #121 calochortus

I'll bet that anti-Sharia task force helps you sleep better at night//
I'm in California which has the advantage(?) of being utterly ungovernable, so Sharia law wouldn't stand a chance...

"People here ski topless while smoking dope, so Sharia is not a real big commodity here..."

(Shamelessly misquoted from Roxanne , whichI think is actually set in Colorado...)

163 Eclectic Infidel  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:34:15pm

re: #147 calochortus

I did two of the things you mentioned, but without the use of alcohol.

But anyway, I get your meaning. :)

164 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:35:15pm

re: #140 calochortus

You'd think the fact that the S.F. Bay Area has been steeped in sin for so long would indicate that God isn't out to destroy us. The earlier-mentioned guy who thinks God missed SF and blew up a gas pipeline in San Bruno as a punishment doesn't seem to be getting his geography straight. Or maybe San Bruno residents have been having more fun than I thought.

San Bruno? There is no sin going on in San Bruno. People are too busy keeping their lawns crabgrass free.

165 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:36:20pm

re: #158 HappyWarrior

I don't own a bible and you couldn't pay me to see Reverend Pat and go to Virginia Beach in one setting.

I have lots of Bibles. But ditto, except for that.

166 calochortus  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:37:32pm

re: #164 SanFranciscoZionist

Maybe God doesn't want the crabgrass destroyed. He could make it a little clearer.

167 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:38:57pm

re: #166 calochortus

Maybe God doesn't want the crabgrass destroyed. He could make it a little clearer.

God wants crabgrass
God wants giraffes
God wants politics
God wants a good laugh

169 Gus  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:49:12pm

Back later.

170 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:50:31pm

re: #164 SanFranciscoZionist

Maybe god got confused and did it because he thought the town's name was meant to make a saint out of Bruno?

171 Kragar  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:51:42pm

Am I a bad person for rating "Remo Williams" as a 5 star movie?

172 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:53:37pm

re: #171 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Am I a bad person for rating "Remo Williams" as a 5 star movie?

It depends if I'm a bad person for rating "Meatball Machine" likewise

173 Kragar  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:57:08pm

re: #172 WindUpBird

It depends if I'm a bad person for rating "Meatball Machine" likewise

Haven't seen it, but then not a big fan of gore-fests usually

174 latitude51  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 4:57:14pm

I'm Sarah Palin and I aprouv this massage.

175 engineer cat  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:00:11pm

what we have in california is shari lewis law, which mandates severe penalties if you don't talk to puppets in baby talk or post pictures of spelling challenged cats

176 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:01:35pm

re: #173 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Haven't seen it, but then not a big fan of gore-fests usually

this is its own thing, it's more like comedy GWAR outrageous Japanese punk gore, not like legitimate scary gore

177 freetoken  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:02:49pm

Since we're talking about the idiocy of the day, I see that the odious Ben Shapiro has cranked out another winner today. I'll not link it, but his column is available all over the place (he's syndicated by Creators Syndicate, like many RW pundits):

Why We Treat Obama 'Like A Dog'

[...]

But let's take Obama at his word. If we're treating Obama "like a dog" - and let's assume he means "Stone Free" Jimi Hendrix-style - it's because he deserves it. If Obama were a dog, he'd be a bad dog. The kind of dog that routinely drinks from the toilet, and simply will not be taught that drinking from the toilet is bad manners (think Obama on health care). The kind of dog that barks at all hours of the night, just for attention (think Obama's pathetic need for constant adulation). The kind of dog that runs from intruders when danger's in the air (think Obama on Iraq, Iran, Russia, North Korea, China - hell, just think about Obama's position on any country that isn't an American ally). The kind of dog that chews on the furniture out of pure spite (if Obama's actually going to chew on the furniture, by the way, let me be the first to suggest he start with the new, hideous Oval Office accoutrements).

If Obama's a dog, he's a puppy that has never been housebroken, whose owner continually babies it and never requires basic standards of behavior. President Obama has never had to make a living; he has never had to face the consequences of his behavior, whether that behavior is hanging out with terrorists, doing cocaine, or attending a racist church for 20 years. He's never been held accountable. Finally, he's being held accountable. He doesn't like it, so he's rhetorically urinating in the middle of the living room.

[...]

Classy as ever....

179 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:05:16pm

re: #177 freetoken

I love a dullard right wing "columnist" playing psychoanalyst, they all do it, and they do it so poorly that all you can do is laugh

It's like watching a kid trying to mimic daddy

"LOOK I'M SMART HONEST!"

180 Kragar  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:05:34pm

re: #176 WindUpBird

this is its own thing, it's more like comedy GWAR outrageous Japanese punk gore, not like legitimate scary gore

My buddy told me to check out Machine Girl. I had to slap him after that one.

181 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:06:13pm

re: #180 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

My buddy told me to check out Machine Girl. I had to slap him after that one.

Oh man, yeah, if you don't like gore, stay away from Machine Girl o_o

182 Kragar  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:08:11pm

re: #181 WindUpBird

Oh man, yeah, if you don't like gore, stay away from Machine Girl o_o

I don't mind gore in advancement of a decent plot or story line, but not 90 minutes of exploding bodies.

183 freetoken  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:08:34pm

Sinclair posted his latest crock video this morning:

184 wrenchwench  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:08:52pm

re: #167 WindUpBird

God wants politics
God wants a good laugh

185 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:14:10pm

re: #184 wrenchwench

there it is! :D

Love that song so much

186 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:15:56pm

re: #182 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I don't mind gore in advancement of a decent plot or story line, but not 90 minutes of exploding bodies.

I'm a fan of wretched excess in violent cinema :D I like "real" movies too, but they tend to be slow-boil thriller type things. it's either something like Constant Gardener, or it's like screaming fetuses and japanese monsters being bisected

187 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:17:56pm

"Machete" was the feel good, buddy movie of the year!

It's a love story... I laughed, I cried.

*blink*

188 Linden Arden  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:18:03pm

The Fox News liars have no bounds.

I watch Bill-O to see the propaganda and tonight its MOSQUE MOSQUE MOSQUE with nothing else and now Rauf is a "truther" according to Bill O'Rally - to spin things around..

Back to SOME FOOTBALL!

189 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:19:44pm

re: #188 Linden Arden

I'm watching it... Bill claims that one of Rauf's buddies is the troofer, not Rauf... unless I heard it wrong...

190 Kragar  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:20:05pm

re: #186 WindUpBird

I'm a fan of wretched excess in violent cinema :D I like "real" movies too, but they tend to be slow-boil thriller type things. it's either something like Constant Gardener, or it's like screaming fetuses and japanese monsters being bisected

I prefer my gore like in "The Thing".

191 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:20:14pm

re: #188 Linden Arden

Alex Barron is dead to me.

192 What, me worry?  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:21:48pm

re: #190 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I prefer my gore like in "The Thing".

I liked my gore in the vice presidency.

:>

193 Linden Arden  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:22:43pm

re: #189 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm watching it... Bill claims that one of Rauf's buddies is the troofer, not Rauf... unless I heard it wrong...

Good deal. I am trying to watch the Jets/Ravens game too.

Bill-O nauseates me - yet I strangely have to spin by there in the many NFL breaks.

194 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:22:44pm

You know, the longer all this fuss over Park 51 goes on, I notice fewer and fewer attention paid to it. I think Jones' little stunt last week soured a lot of folks on the whole subject, as they came to the realization that much of what's driving all the "outrage" is pure, unleaded Islamophobia. I'm beginning to think the best solution to this whole mess is simply to wait it out, letting Crazy Pam and the rest of the Bigot Brigade be their own worst enemies. By the beginning of next year, I figure most folks won't even be willing to admit they ever had an opinion on the whole mess.

195 What, me worry?  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:22:56pm

re: #192 marjoriemoon

I liked my gore in the vice presidency.

:>

I'm serial.

196 freetoken  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:24:50pm

Palin's latest Grizzly Mom moment is too much for Krauthammer, who calls her actions wrt Delaware "capricious":

Let me be the first one to say it here: KRAUTHAMMER IS A RINO, KRAUTHAMMER IS A RINO, KRAUTHAMMER IS A RINO, KRAUTHAMMER IS A RINO, KRAUTHAMMER IS A RINO, KRAUTHAMMER IS A RINO, KRAUTHAMMER IS A RINO, KRAUTHAMMER IS A RINO, KRAUTHAMMER IS A RINO....


hehehe...

197 brookly red  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:26:02pm

re: #194 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

You know, the longer all this fuss over Park 51 goes on, I notice fewer and fewer attention paid to it. I think Jones' little stunt last week soured a lot of folks on the whole subject, as they came to the realization that much of what's driving all the "outrage" is pure, unleaded Islamophobia. I'm beginning to think the best solution to this whole mess is simply to wait it out, letting Crazy Pam and the rest of the Bigot Brigade be their own worst enemies. By the beginning of next year, I figure most folks won't even be willing to admit they ever had an opinion on the whole mess.

Really? I am more inclined to think as time goes on it will lose sensationalism but become entrenched as a major topic of political debate. I guess we shall see.

198 Stanghazi  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:28:09pm

re: #196 freetoken

No video...??


"She's gone Rogue!"

Like they didn't know this, idiots.

199 simoom  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:28:35pm

Salon has up a sampling of some of the anti-islam/anti-park 51 literature (propaganda) that was being distributed at the Saturday rally:
[Link: www.salon.com...]

200 Linden Arden  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:30:19pm

re: #198 Stanley Sea

No video...??

"She's gone Rogue!"

Like they didn't know this, idiots.

Was it here I saw what "Going Rogue" means in French?

(Going without condom)

Bristol went rogue years ago.

201 Obdicut  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:31:03pm

re: #199 simoom

Wow. That first one is directly anti-Catholic. What the fuck?

202 What, me worry?  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:32:07pm

re: #199 simoom

Salon has up a sampling of some of the anti-islam/anti-park 51 literature (propaganda) that was being distributed at the Saturday rally:
[Link: www.salon.com...]

My goodness.

Because the Christian crusades were all teddy bears and lollypops ?

203 freetoken  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:32:29pm

re: #198 Stanley Sea

Did this video load correctly for you?

204 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:33:10pm

re: #197 brookly red

Really? I am more inclined to think as time goes on it will lose sensationalism but become entrenched as a major topic of political debate. I guess we shall see.

I'm of the opinion that, the longer this goes on, the bigger the spotlight shown on Crazy Pam and the others leading the charge, the more likely that one or all of them will so badly damage their "case" against Park 51 that supporting the opposition will simply be unpalatable to the majority of Americans.

205 brookly red  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:35:16pm

re: #204 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I'm of the opinion that, the longer this goes on, the bigger the spotlight shown on Crazy Pam and the others leading the charge, the more likely that one or all of them will so badly damage their "case" against Park 51 that supporting the opposition will simply be unpalatable to the majority of Americans.

perhaps, but I think it will an issue that will be here for quite some time... again time will tell.

206 Obdicut  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:35:44pm

re: #199 simoom

And another one of the groups is a reactionary Catholic group.

I wonder if they read the rabidly anti-Catholic group's literature?

United in hate.

207 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:38:20pm

re: #205 brookly red

perhaps, but I think it will an issue that will be here for quite some time... again time will tell.

I'm really lost as to how any politician will be able to exploit this without finding himself painted as either anti-Muslim (if he sides with the opposition) or anti-America (if he sides with the supporters).

208 Stanghazi  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:39:24pm

re: #203 freetoken

Did this video load correctly for you?


[Video]

Yes, tks!

210 brookly red  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:41:18pm

re: #207 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I'm really lost as to how any politician will be able to exploit this without finding himself painted as either anti-Muslim (if he sides with the opposition) or anti-America (if he sides with the supporters).

politicians do have a tendency to speak outta both sides of their faces... surly you have noticed, yes? ;)

211 What, me worry?  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:42:34pm

re: #206 Obdicut

And another one of the groups is a reactionary Catholic group.

I wonder if they read the rabidly anti-Catholic group's literature?

United in hate.

The website on the 3rd page is a Christian group, "CTM Ministry" whose specific purpose is to convert Muslims.

Where have I heard this song before?!?

212 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:42:46pm

re: #201 Obdicut

Wow. That first one is directly anti-Catholic. What the fuck?

Because according to many Christian fundamentalist and holiness denominations, the Roman Catholic church is not a Christian church - "Whore of Babylon" comes to mind. Easy to link one kind of religious hate to another.

213 Linden Arden  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:44:27pm

Holy fuck - its 8:48est and Bill-O is still on Rauf. Does Fox News have no credibility at all?

Back to Jets/Ravens.

214 Linden Arden  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:45:59pm

re: #212 wlewisiii

Because according to many Christian fundamentalist and holiness denominations, the Roman Catholic church is not a Christian church - "Whore of Babylon" comes to mind. Easy to link one kind of religious hate to another.

Right!

Although Protestants didn't appear until 1514!

215 Stanghazi  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:46:28pm

re: #209 Killgore Trout

Andrew Breitbart Gropes Youth At 9/12 Death Picnic

Wonkette saves my life.

216 freetoken  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:47:42pm

re: #206 Obdicut

Ah yes, the TFP:

American Society for the Defense of Tradition, Family and Property

An Ultra-reactionary Roman Catholic group.

If it hates, then Geller will want to be part of it.

217 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:50:00pm

re: #210 brookly red

politicians do have a tendency to speak outta both sides of their faces... surly you have noticed, yes? ;)

True. Yet, this is one of those issues where I find it hard to believe that anybody could get away with playing both sides for suckers. My guess is most will only tackle the subject if specifically asked about it or if they are desperate enough to risk blowback in order to scare up a few crucial votes.

218 brookly red  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:53:33pm

re: #217 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

True. Yet, this is one of those issues where I find it hard to believe that anybody could get away with playing both sides for suckers. My guess is most will only tackle the subject if specifically asked about it or if they are desperate enough to risk blowback in order to scare up a few crucial votes.

no, I think there is support/opposition to make it asset/liability depending on the audience...

219 brookly red  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:57:22pm

re: #218 brookly red

no, I think there is support/opposition to make it asset/liability depending on the audience...

btw I just received a campaign call from a local candidates office and the caller wanted to assure me that the candidate was against the Mosque...

220 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:57:41pm

re: #214 Linden Arden

Right!

Although Protestants didn't appear until 1514!

I make no claim about the logic.

I do know a member of a holiness church that was founded in the 1880's who is convinced it goes all the way back to Jesus in an unbroken line. Just like the apostolic succession but not like that somehow. She's convinced that my Episcopalian church is little better than the near devil worshipers in Rome.

221 Stanghazi  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:59:33pm

re: #219 brookly red

btw I just received a campaign call from a local candidates office and the caller wanted to assure me that the candidate was against the Mosque...

Name em.

222 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 5:59:33pm

re: #6 WindUpBird

Yours was better than mine, I was going to make an Ogra from the Dark Crystal joke

I was going to comment how the original misspelling actually reflected accurately on Pam merry band. In Tolkien's books Grond means "Hammer of the Underworld" and Pam certainly does the Devil's work.

223 brookly red  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 6:00:21pm

re: #221 Stanley Sea

Name em.

nice try. let's just say it was for a minor local office.

224 darthstar  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 6:00:37pm

re: #219 brookly red

btw I just received a campaign call from a local candidates office and the caller wanted to assure me that the candidate was against the Mosque...

And did you thank them and say you agreed? Or did you say, "WTF?"

225 Stanghazi  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 6:00:41pm

re: #223 brookly red

nice try. let's just say it was for a minor local office.

Exactly. Nice try.

226 darthstar  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 6:01:11pm

re: #223 brookly red

nice try. let's just say it was for a minor local office.

Are they building a minor local ground zero mosque in your community?

227 brookly red  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 6:02:41pm

re: #224 darthstar

And did you thank them and say you agreed? Or did you say, "WTF?"

no I hung up half way through as I do with all the campaign calls... I have had about 30 so far today. Note I hang up on robo-calls right away.

228 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 6:02:42pm

Mom's out of town on a biz trip & it's now time to convince an 8 year old he wants to go to bed... :eek:

BBL.

229 Targetpractice  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 6:03:01pm

re: #219 brookly red

btw I just received a campaign call from a local candidates office and the caller wanted to assure me that the candidate was against the Mosque...

I think that's probably the only place you'll see support/opposition be played up, in the local scenes, where candidates have more of a grasp of what the voters like/dislike. I don't think may candidates on the federal level are gonna take one side or the other unless they're desperate for votes.

230 Gus  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 6:03:10pm

re: #216 freetoken

Ah yes, the TFP:

American Society for the Defense of Tradition, Family and Property

An Ultra-reactionary Roman Catholic group.

If it hates, then Geller will want to be part of it.

Un-freakin believable. I was looking at their signs at the Geller/Spencer/Wilders Reichsparteitage but didn't follow up. They're bringing out the most obscure Dominionist groups in the nation if not the world. These people are trying to instigate a final crusade. Oddly enough this group is also anti-Protestant.

231 darthstar  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 6:03:23pm

re: #227 brookly red

no I hung up half way through as I do with all the campaign calls... I have had about 30 so far today. Note I hang up on robo-calls right away.

So you're in one of a handful of tomorrow's primary states then?

232 brookly red  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 6:04:45pm

re: #226 darthstar

Are they building a minor local ground zero mosque in your community?

No we already have a Nigerian Mosque... it is basically a store front and has been there as long as I can remember. Never was an issue.

233 brookly red  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 6:05:28pm

re: #231 darthstar

So you're in one of a handful of tomorrow's primary states then?

NYC if you hadn't noticed...

234 freetoken  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 6:05:37pm

re: #230 Gus 802

Oddly enough this group is also anti-Protestant.

Shhhh....

Anyway, I think it is quite appropriate for a group that openly advocates for a new crusade to show up at Geller's rant parties.

235 b_sharp  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 6:05:53pm

Just to bring the convo back to the sign:

Are those planes flying toward the punch cards or flying fish flying away from the punch cards?

236 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 6:06:24pm

re: #233 brookly red

NYC if you hadn't noticed...

LOL

237 brookly red  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 6:06:30pm

re: #229 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I think that's probably the only place you'll see support/opposition be played up, in the local scenes, where candidates have more of a grasp of what the voters like/dislike. I don't think may candidates on the federal level are gonna take one side or the other unless they're desperate for votes.

I think you are correct on that...

238 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 6:08:23pm

re: #230 Gus 802

Un-freakin believable. I was looking at their signs at the Geller/Spencer/Wilders Reichsparteitage but didn't follow up. They're bringing out the most obscure Dominionist groups in the nation if not the world. These people are trying to instigate a final crusade. Oddly enough this group is also anti-Protestant.

Well, to be entirely accurate, Catholic groups cannot be fundamentalist. Even the most reactionary of them recognize the right of the clergy to interpret the Bible non-literally in certain circumstances. That's also the reason Protestant Fundies never get along with such Catholic groups: They believe such interpretation is a theological error and they also dislike the way the clergy sometimes uses interpretation as a weapon.

239 tnguitarist  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 6:08:43pm

re: #191 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Alex Barron is dead to me.

Let's not discuss that.

240 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 6:09:05pm

re: #230 Gus 802

Un-freakin believable. I was looking at their signs at the Geller/Spencer/Wilders Reichsparteitage but didn't follow up. They're bringing out the most obscure Dominionist groups in the nation if not the world. These people are trying to instigate a final crusade. Oddly enough this group is also anti-Protestant.

Note their school is dedicated to St Louis de Monfort. He started a Marist cult that is saturated with masochistic imagery. The group seems to be barely holding on to RC orthodoxy.

241 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 6:09:25pm

re: #232 brookly red

No we already have a Nigerian Mosque... it is basically a store front and has been there as long as I can remember. Never was an issue.

Glad to hear it, Brookly.

242 darthstar  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 6:09:59pm

re: #233 brookly red

NYC if you hadn't noticed...

That's what I thought, but I figured a local candidate speaking out against the mosque, given your party affiliation as I understand it, could be from just about any po-dunk community in the country these days. Not that NYC is exactly a po-dunk community, but it does try. :)

243 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 6:10:17pm

re: #240 Decatur Deb

Note their school is dedicated to St Louis de Monfort. He started a Marist cult that is saturated with masochistic imagery. The group seems to be barely holding on to RC orthodoxy.

Is he descended of Simon de Montfort, I wonder?

244 brookly red  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 6:10:47pm

re: #241 Dark_Falcon

Glad to hear it, Brookly.

there are several store front Churches on the strip too... no big deal.

245 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 6:11:07pm

re: #240 Decatur Deb

Will check.

246 freetoken  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 6:11:44pm

re: #240 Decatur Deb

They're ultra reactionary. What is "orthodoxy" to them is the Inquisition.

247 darthstar  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 6:13:09pm

re: #246 freetoken

They're ultra reactionary. What is "orthodoxy" to them is the Inquisition.

Just because...

248 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 6:13:20pm

re: #244 brookly red

there are several store front Churches on the strip too... no big deal.

Been to NY as a kid..And only once...From one end of the avenues of America to the other.. NYC has the most beautiful Churches in America...Hands down

249 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 6:15:31pm

re: #246 freetoken

They're ultra reactionary. What is "orthodoxy" to them is the Inquisition.

My mainstream 1950s Franciscan teachers justified the Inquisition. The beast is only sleeping.

250 brookly red  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 6:15:51pm

re: #242 darthstar

That's what I thought, but I figured a local candidate speaking out against the mosque, given your party affiliation as I understand it, could be from just about any po-dunk community in the country these days. Not that NYC is exactly a po-dunk community, but it does try. :)

My community is working class (well, we are getting a lot of yuppies) integrated, melting pot Brooklyn. Most democrats are running unopposed and most cars still have an Obama bumper stick on them*, that being said most of my neighbors are against building the Mosque. Just saying.


* although I have been seeing people sneaking out at night to remove them lately..

251 brookly red  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 6:16:34pm

re: #248 HoosierHoops

Been to NY as a kid..And only once...From one end of the avenues of America to the other.. NYC has the most beautiful Churches in America...Hands down

well again the ones I am talking about are store fronts...

252 Decatur Deb  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 6:17:14pm

re: #243 Dark_Falcon

Is he descended of Simon de Montfort, I wonder?

If so, there was little continuity. Louis de M is late 1600s, and born to the middle class.

253 A Man for all Seasons  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 6:22:39pm

re: #251 brookly red

well again the ones I am talking about are store fronts...

I was lucky to visit NYC as a kid..Did the whole Broadway, UN, Staten Island Ferry...Love that city...Bowery sucked

254 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 6:24:03pm

re: #181 WindUpBird

Oh man, yeah, if you don't like gore, stay away from Machine Girl o_o

From the wiki:

According to writer and director Iguchi, the idea for The Machine Girl went back to a simple idea he had about a one-armed girl in a bikini looking for revenge.

lol!

Now I have to see it.

255 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 6:26:50pm

re: #253 HoosierHoops

I was lucky to visit NYC as a kid..Did the whole Broadway, UN, Staten Island Ferry...Love that city...Bowery sucked

It always has. It's been a Skid Row for more than a century. Every city has a bad area like that, most more than one.

256 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 7:04:10pm

re: #177 freetoken

Since we're talking about the idiocy of the day, I see that the odious Ben Shapiro has cranked out another winner today. I'll not link it, but his column is available all over the place (he's syndicated by Creators Syndicate, like many RW pundits):

Why We Treat Obama 'Like A Dog'

Classy as ever...

President Obama has never had to make a living

What does that mean, exactly?

257 aerial_drone  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 7:34:13pm

Can there be an any principled opposition to building an Islamic Cultural Center two blocks from ground zero. And what's with the strippers...radical strippers did not fly planes into the WTC.

258 Mentis Fugit  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 7:37:53pm

re: #7 PT Barnum

Grond Zero! Wasn't that the name of the battering Ram the Orcs used in Lord of the Rings?


I thought it was just the US spelling. You know: colour/color, labour/labor, ground/grond.

259 ClaudeMonet  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 11:41:38pm

re: #65 darthstar

OT: Lloyd Marshall Jr. - total asshole. Prays for the victims of the San Bruno gas explosion and spews hate in the same LTE...

I've spent time in Lockport, home town of the first guy I knew in college to come out of the closet (my reaction back in 1977--"Tell me something I don't know, Tom"). Somehow it seems appropriate that someone from there would be so deluded about a gay-friendly area like SF.

260 ClaudeMonet  Mon, Sep 13, 2010 11:58:06pm

re: #228 wlewisiii

Mom's out of town on a biz trip & it's now time to convince an 8 year old he wants to go to bed... :eek:

BBL.

Put on a video of Charlie Rose. So dull the kid will be begging to go to bed.

261 tnguitarist  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 12:02:10am

re: #257 aerial_drone

Can there be an any principled opposition to building an Islamic Cultural Center two blocks from ground zero. And what's with the strippers...radical strippers did not fly planes into the WTC.

You guys are so predictable. A right-wing idiot puts out a talking point and every one of you dipshits are parroting it on the message boards within a day or two. Was it Breitbart this time? Do you people have a single original thought, or is it all groupthink?

And what is your principled opposition? Do tell.

262 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 12:48:10am

re: #257 aerial_drone

Can there be an any principled opposition to building an Islamic Cultural Center two blocks from ground zero. And what's with the strippers...radical strippers did not fly planes into the WTC.

No, there can't, it's blaming American Muslims for shit American Muslims didn't do, can you please get that through your head?


The constitution of the United States does not stop because Rush Limbaugh says so

263 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 12:50:39am

re: #190 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I prefer my gore like in "The Thing".

One of my favorite films! Good stuff, Carpenter rules :D

264 freetoken  Tue, Sep 14, 2010 12:51:26am

re: #257 aerial_drone

Can there be an any principled opposition to building an Islamic Cultural Center two blocks from ground zero.

You'd have to show that building Park51 is immoral or illegal. But you can't, because the truth, from all the facts that have been gathered, is just the opposite.


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