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1 darthstar  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 6:16:09pm
2 deranged cat  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 6:24:39pm

aw. thought this was gonna be the bjork video for “Wanderlust”
any bjork fans here? any?
:crickets:

3 HoosierHoops  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 6:26:02pm

Good Evening Lizards!

4 Bear  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 6:28:27pm

Neat. Wish I could do the time-lapse photos. Even with the old 16mm B&H cameras I would have like to do the cloud movement.

5 3eff Jeff  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 6:29:40pm

re: #2 deranged cat

There’s at least two of us.

6 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 6:32:55pm

The 50 Scariest Haunted Houses in America


You don’t scare easily, huh? How about the homes that hosted the most gruesome murders imaginable? Maybe the dark basements where innocent children met horrible ends? Or the backwoods houses where multi-headed incubi raped whole families? OK, so that last one may be a bit much, but you get the picture: the places where really messed up things happened some years ago, and where the echoes of those messed up things can still be heard today. Still not scared? Well, check out our collection of the 50 Scariest Haunted Houses in America, but don’t tell your parents it’s our fault that Little Jimmy wants to sleep in their bed tonight.

I can not put into words just how much I enjoy not being a superstitious goober.

7 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 6:35:23pm

I have wanderlust but I hate to leave home. It’s a balancing act.

8 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 6:35:50pm

re: #2 deranged cat

I like this one. Does that count?

9 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 6:37:31pm

Reminds me of Rush’s “Time Stand Still.”

I turn my back to the wind
To catch my breath
Before I start off again.
Driven on without a moment to spend
To pass an evening with a drink and a friend

I let my skin get too thin
I’d like to pause
No matter what I pretend
Like some pilgrim
Who learns to transcend
Learns to live as if each step was the end

(Time stand still)
I’m not looking back
But I want to look around me now
(Time stand still)
See more of the people and the places that surround me now
Time Stands still
Freeze this moment a little bit longer
Make each sensation a little bit stronger
Experience slips away
Experience slips away

Time stands still

I turn my face to the sun
I Close my eyes
Let my defences down
All those wounds that I can’t get unwound

I let my past go too fast
No time to pause
If I could slow it all down
Like some captain, whose ship runs aground
I can wait until the tide comes around

(Time stand still)
I’m not looking back
But I want to look around me now
(Time stand still)
See more of the people and the places that surround me now
Freeze this moment a little bit longer
Make each sensation a little bit stronger.

Make each impression, a little bit stronger
Freeze this motion a little bit longer
The innocence slips away
The innocence slips away…

Time stands still
Time stands still

I’m not looking back
But I want to look around me now
See more of the people and the places that surround me now
Time stands still

Summer’s going fast, nights growing colder
Children growing up, old friends growing older
Freeze this moment a little bit longer
Make each sensation a little bit stronger
Experience slips away
Experience slips away…
The innocence slips away.

10 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 6:38:58pm

re: #7 Killgore Trout

There you are. Just saw this cover and thought of you. :)

It’s even got a lizard in it.

11 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 6:41:00pm

I’m listening to Phil Hendrie’s show from last night, where his fake guest (played by him) is bating people to call in and assert that there is no such thing as separation of church and state, and the calls are just rolling in, it’s amazing

So many dumb people repeating the same talking points with no understaing of the constitution, programmed like robots

12 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 6:41:02pm

re: #10 Slumbering Behemoth

There you are. Just saw this cover and thought of you. :)

It’s even got a lizard in it.

Nice!

13 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 6:41:53pm

8 People Ridiculously Good at Ordinary Jobs

1. Thai Iced Tea Master
2. The Iron Man
3. Tossing Bread Man
4. Super Fast Card Packager
5. Pizza Tossing Championship
6. Falafel Magic Man
7. World’s Fastest Bus Boy Clears Table of 9 in 1:30
8. Crazy Brick-Stacking Man
14 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 6:42:54pm

re: #12 Killgore Trout

I almost didn’t click on the link when I read “Banjo player covers Jay-Z”, but I’m glad I did. Great cover.

15 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 6:45:23pm

Beautiful photography.

16 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 6:45:24pm

re: #14 Slumbering Behemoth

James Taylor Sings DMX

(it’s not really James Taylor but still pretty damn good)

17 3eff Jeff  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 6:46:03pm

re: #14 Slumbering Behemoth

That was excellent. I’ve always been partial to the double black remix of that song, but the banjo really works. Thanks for the link.

18 Gus  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 6:46:52pm

re: #6 Slumbering Behemoth

The 50 Scariest Haunted Houses in America

I can not put into words just how much I enjoy not being a superstitious goober.

Argh don’t get me started. Billions of humans have lived before us so the Earth would be crawling with “ghosts”. Nope, instead the only ghosts that have been fabricated reside in architecturally significant homes and typically died in the 19th or early 20th centuries.

What is there like a ghost rule that means they have to hang out in the place the croaked? Damn, if I was a ghost and kicked the bucket in Newark, NJ I’d head down to Tahiti or someplace nice.

//

19 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 6:49:20pm

re: #13 Killgore Trout

What? No Seattle fish mongers?

I am disappoint.

20 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 6:50:38pm

re: #18 Gus 802

I’ve never been superstitious but when I bought my 100 year old house I had a flaky girlfriend. Every night before bed she’d lock and latch the door to the basement. I was scared of my own basement for years after she left. It’s contagious.

21 freetoken  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 6:50:45pm

I’m glad the video creator decided to leave the colors as natural, as opposed to over saturating them as is done in so many travel videos.

22 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 6:51:07pm

re: #19 Slumbering Behemoth

What? No Seattle fish mongers?

I am disappoint.

Good point.

23 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 6:52:08pm

re: #16 Killgore Trout

Epic. That ones getting emailed to everyone I know.

24 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 6:53:47pm

re: #18 Gus 802

If I can tell I’m nearing my end, I will commit a very gruesome suicide at the Playboy Mansion, just in case.
/

25 Gus  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 6:53:53pm

re: #20 Killgore Trout

I’ve never been superstitious but when I bought my 100 year old house I had a flaky girlfriend. Every night before bed she’d lock and latch the door to the basement. I was scared of my own basement for years after she left. It’s contagious.

Boo! Yeah, I know what you mean.

26 darthstar  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 6:54:19pm

I “Deadicated” this song to my wife on facebook the other morning…the Dead played it at my first show…always loved Brent’s singing…

27 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 6:58:17pm

re: #20 Killgore Trout

I slept in a graveyard once. Well, I tried to. Even passed out for a bit. As it turns out, groundskeepers don’t much care for people trying to catch a few winks in their boneyards. Go figure.

28 Gus  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 6:59:17pm

re: #27 Slumbering Behemoth

I slept in a graveyard once. Well, I tried to. Even passed out for a bit. As it turns out, groundskeepers don’t much care for people trying to catch a few winks in their boneyards. Go figure.

Those weren’t groundskeepers.

/

29 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:01:04pm

Thread is about dead.

30 3eff Jeff  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:02:33pm

re: #29 Decatur Deb

I guess that’s what happens when you bring up sleeping in graveyards.

31 engineer cat  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:04:14pm

re: #27 Slumbering Behemoth

I slept in a graveyard once. Well, I tried to. Even passed out for a bit. As it turns out, groundskeepers don’t much care for people trying to catch a few winks in their boneyards. Go figure.

when me and the wife were in new orleans once, i suggested to her that it might be neat to try and concieve a child on a gravestone… new orleans is just naturally cool… the whole city is a bit supernatural…

she wasn’t amused

32 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:05:17pm

re: #28 Gus 802

I tell you, the dude was creepy looking enough, and wearing some weird clothes. Were I the superstitious type, I would have shit stuff I ate over twenty years prior when that dude woke me up.

He was just helping me out, though. Apparently, on top of having an over night groundskeeper, there was also private security that did the occasional drive-through of the grounds. He explained that if they had found me first, I’d be sleeping in a drunk tank instead of a cemetery.

33 Gus  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:06:51pm

re: #32 Slumbering Behemoth

I tell you, the dude was creepy looking enough, and wearing some weird clothes. Were I the superstitious type, I would have shit stuff I ate over twenty years prior when that dude woke me up.

He was just helping me out, though. Apparently, on top of having an over night groundskeeper, there was also private security that did the occasional drive-through of the grounds. He explained that if they had found me first, I’d be sleeping in a drunk tank instead of a cemetery.

Ah. You did luck out.

34 Gus  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:08:26pm

But you got to lock the door to the basement at night. Otherwise that half decomposed guy wearing overalls and carrying an axe will come walking up the stairs and into your bedroom after midnight. And he’s not there to bring you a glass of warm milk!

//

35 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:08:32pm

re: #20 Killgore Trout

I’ve never been superstitious but when I bought my 100 year old house I had a flaky girlfriend. Every night before bed she’d lock and latch the door to the basement. I was scared of my own basement for years after she left. It’s contagious.

Ghosts can’t get out of a locked basement?

36 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:08:33pm

re: #32 Slumbering Behemoth

I tell you, the dude was creepy looking enough, and wearing some weird clothes. Were I the superstitious type, I would have shit stuff I ate over twenty years prior when that dude woke me up.

He was just helping me out, though. Apparently, on top of having an over night groundskeeper, there was also private security that did the occasional drive-through of the grounds. He explained that if they had found me first, I’d be sleeping in a drunk tank instead of a cemetery.

You could have been “conceiving a child.” Now that would have been infinitely more interesting.

37 Gus  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:08:56pm

re: #35 SanFranciscoZionist

Ghosts can’t get out of a locked basement?

Only on Abbott and Costello.

/

38 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:09:23pm

re: #35 SanFranciscoZionist

Ghosts can’t get out of a locked basement?

lol ghosts yes. But then there’s always zombies.

39 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:11:07pm

re: #33 Gus 802

When I lived in Washington I spent a lot of time hanging out in graveyards. There was always one close to were ever I lived. On a nice day I’d grab a forty and a book and just drink and read for a couple of hours. It’s just like hanging out at a public park, with the added bonus being that 99.9% of the people there have permanently STFU.

40 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:11:51pm

re: #27 Slumbering Behemoth

I slept in a graveyard once. Well, I tried to. Even passed out for a bit. As it turns out, groundskeepers don’t much care for people trying to catch a few winks in their boneyards. Go figure.

In the early years of the 20th century, San Francisco got rid of all non-military cemeteries in the county—hence Colma, our very own necropolis. Population is less than 2000. If you count only the living.

When I was a kid, there was a little playground attached to the Jewish Community Center that we’d be taken to to play. The whole area had been one big graveyard at one point, and it still had several tombstones and a bit of fountain in place.

41 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:11:54pm

I wish pizza delivery included beer delivery. Though even if it did, the price for delivery on the beer alone would be absurd. I’m just really, really in the mood for a linguica/tomato/garlic pie, washed down with Scrimshaw Pilsner.

42 Irenicum  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:11:56pm

Hey kids. Is it me, or is it just great that it’s a Friday night? Damn straight!

43 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:12:42pm

re: #40 SanFranciscoZionist

In the early years of the 20th century, San Francisco got rid of all non-military cemeteries in the county—hence Colma, our very own necropolis. Population is less than 2000. If you count only the living.

When I was a kid, there was a little playground attached to the Jewish Community Center that we’d be taken to to play. The whole area had been one big graveyard at one point, and it still had several tombstones and a bit of fountain in place.

The necropolis gives all its citizens basic cable for free, I think.

44 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:13:31pm

re: #36 marjoriemoon

You could have been “conceiving a child.” Now that would have been infinitely more interesting.

Yeah. I was just piss drunk, and had no way of getting home. I just figured no one would bug me there. Not nearly as interesting “doing it” on a grave.

45 3eff Jeff  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:13:55pm

Good night everyone. I’ve got an early morning tomorrow.

46 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:14:00pm

Korean Ghost Dance

47 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:14:57pm

Wyatt Earp is buried in Colma.

48 Irenicum  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:14:58pm

re: #45 3eff Jeff

My sympathies. Thankfully my morning is officially “late” work-wise.

49 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:17:13pm

re: #40 SanFranciscoZionist

Used to spend a lot of time in Colma too. Just the boneyards. Lots of very interesting and beautiful headstones and mausoleums. The one near where I live now only has little plaques on the graves, nothing else is allowed. Very boring.

50 Irenicum  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:17:57pm

OK, so maybe I should just say some stupid shit to get this thread going…

51 Irenicum  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:19:48pm

re: #49 Slumbering Behemoth

I did some video for an abandonded cemeteries group years ago on Staten Island. Some great head stones there.

52 HoosierHoops  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:20:39pm

re: #50 Irenicum

OK, so maybe I should just say some stupid shit to get this thread going…

Worrying Works!
90% of the things I worry about never happens

53 Gus  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:20:43pm

re: #51 Irenicum

I did some video for an abandonded cemeteries group years ago on Staten Island. Some great head stones there.

Slate?

54 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:20:51pm

re: #50 Irenicum

OK, so maybe I should just say some stupid shit to get this thread going…

I’ve been trying. I tell ya, it ain’t easy.

55 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:21:24pm

re: #39 Slumbering Behemoth

When I lived in Washington I spent a lot of time hanging out in graveyards. There was always one close to were ever I lived. On a nice day I’d grab a forty and a book and just drink and read for a couple of hours. It’s just like hanging out at a public park, with the added bonus being that 99.9% of the people there have permanently STFU.

Alabama has a number of old graveyards dating back to the civil war. Some that no one but the locals know about. My ex’s uncle always took us. Just during the day, and we would look at the headstones. A lot of young women who died in childbirth, 17-20 yrs old with a little grave next to it. “Baby Smith” some would say. Sad.

They lived in Eufaula. The founder of the town and his family were buried in a mausoleum way off the beaten path. Huge trees with hanging Spanish moss. The sun would shine through in a haze. About 150 yrs old. Their slaves were buried next to them in unmarked graves with railroad ties to mark off the area. It was said to be an honor for them to be buried in the same graveyard, if you can imagine something like that.

56 Irenicum  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:22:34pm

re: #54 Slumbering Behemoth

Hehe.

57 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:24:41pm

re: #55 marjoriemoon

Alabama has a number of old graveyards dating back to the civil war. Some that no one but the locals know about. My ex’s uncle always took us. Just during the day, and we would look at the headstones. A lot of young women who died in childbirth, 17-20 yrs old with a little grave next to it. “Baby Smith” some would say. Sad.

They lived in Eufaula. The founder of the town and his family were buried in a mausoleum way off the beaten path. Huge trees with hanging Spanish moss. The sun would shine through in a haze. About 150 yrs old. Their slaves were buried next to them in unmarked graves with railroad ties to mark off the area. It was said to be an honor for them to be buried in the same graveyard, if you can imagine something like that.

Several small town historical societies around Eufaula mount annual graveyard tours, with actors telling the stories of the inhabitants. We did the one at Columbia last year. The town was tied to the Mississippi River showboats, and wintered 19th century circuses.

58 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:24:41pm

re: #55 marjoriemoon

Old boneyards can be an educational experience. Lots of markers for people who died young from a number of things that we have all but eliminated, no thanks to anti-vax kooks.

59 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:25:31pm

re: #55 marjoriemoon

Alabama has a number of old graveyards dating back to the civil war. Some that no one but the locals know about. My ex’s uncle always took us. Just during the day, and we would look at the headstones. A lot of young women who died in childbirth, 17-20 yrs old with a little grave next to it. “Baby Smith” some would say. Sad.

I used to go read tombstones in the St. Pancras cemetery in London. One family lost several infants, then a daughter in her teens, and two sons died in the First World War.

You get to feeling grateful.

60 freetoken  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:26:51pm

Disturbing news from Haiti:

Cholera epidemic spreads in Haiti; Nearly 200 dead

A cholera epidemic spread in central Haiti on Friday as aid groups rushed doctors and supplies to fight the country’s worst health crisis since January’s earthquake. Nearly 200 deaths had been confirmed and more than 2,000 people were ill.

The first two cases of the disease outside the rural Artibonite region were confirmed in Arcahaie, a town that is closer to the quake-devastated capital, Port-au-Prince.

Officials are concerned the outbreak could reach the squalid tarp camps where hundreds of thousands of quake survivors live in the capital.

“It will be very, very dangerous,” said Claude Surena, president of the Haitian Medical Association. “Port-au-Prince already has more than 2.4 million people, and the way they are living is dangerous enough already.”
The Ministry of Health confirmed 194 deaths and 2,364 cases of cholera, said Imogen Wall, a spokeswoman for the U.N. Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs.

“It’s concentrated in Artibonite right now and we’re doing our best to keep it that way,” Wall said.
Dozens of patients lay on the floor awaiting treatment at the St. Nicholas hospital in the seaside city of St. Marc, some of them brushing away flies on mattresses stained with human feces.

[…]

Haiti is not much on the front page these days, but here we see the reality of extreme poverty and a broken society, where basics such as sanitation become a luxury.

I’ve become pretty numb to all the sorrows of the world over the years, with so much going on. That’s a sad statement, too.

61 Irenicum  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:28:22pm

re: #53 Gus 802

No. Sadly. Many headstones are deeply weather-worn now. History, it seems, is relentless.

62 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:30:19pm

re: #57 Decatur Deb

Several small town historical societies around Eufaula mount annual graveyard tours, with actors telling the stories of the inhabitants. We did the one at Columbia last year. The town was tied to the Mississippi River showboats, and wintered 19th century circuses.

Excellent. I always told his uncle he should lead a tour there. He knew every inch of that town. On the way down to that graveyard, he all of a sudden stopped and started picking at the ground. He pulled up some wild onions! And we ate them! More like scallions, but sweeter. He was a cool guy.

63 HoosierHoops  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:30:28pm

re: #61 Irenicum

No. Sadly. Many headstones are deeply weather-worn now. History, it seems, is relentless.

We are all dust in the wind

64 Gus  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:30:39pm

re: #61 Irenicum

No. Sadly. Many headstones are deeply weather-worn now. History, it seems, is relentless.

Yeah, a soft stone won’t last very long.

65 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:31:50pm

re: #63 HoosierHoops

We are all dust in the wind

That’s my cue

66 Gus  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:33:06pm

re: #65 Slumbering Behemoth

That’s my cue

[Video]

That’s especially creepy when you’re sitting alone in front of your computer and someone, something, is about to grab you by the back of the neck!

/

67 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:33:25pm

re: #64 Gus 802

Yeah, a soft stone won’t last very long.

We had a Hessian POW buried on the installation at Picatinny Arsenal. His grave was marked with a large horizontal tablet, rather than a headstone. The post historian had it covered with a half-inch plexiglass sheet.

68 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:33:57pm

There are more pictures up at Pictures of Muslims Wearing Things.

Sania Mirza is an extremely hot young lady.

69 Irenicum  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:34:03pm

The irony of our deep and abiding interests trying to impress itself upon history beyond ourself.

Slippery little critters, aren’t we? Sad and majestic we are.

70 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:34:15pm

re: #59 SanFranciscoZionist

I used to go read tombstones in the St. Pancras cemetery in London. One family lost several infants, then a daughter in her teens, and two sons died in the First World War.

You get to feeling grateful.

Yea. I started to take notice of the number of young women. The young men I always figured were war casualties.

I also felt that no one visits these graves. It’s nice to be remembered. We would be driving to the store and Gene would say, “Wait a sec, I want to show you something.” And off we’d go down some dirt path to a secluded graveyard.

71 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:35:34pm

re: #66 Gus 802

Well, I could have gone with this, but it doesn’t fit the grave theme I somehow buggered this thread with.

72 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:36:04pm

re: #69 Irenicum

The irony of our deep and abiding interests trying to impress itself upon history beyond ourself.

Slippery little critters, aren’t we? Sad and majestic we are.

Are you familiar with this project? The Clock of the Long Now

[Link: www.google.com…]

73 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:36:53pm

re: #66 Gus 802

That’s especially creepy when you’re sitting alone in front of your computer and someone, something, is about to grab you by the back of the neck!

/

This is my favorite ghost tape on YouTube.

Watch. Enjoy.

74 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:37:48pm

re: #68 SanFranciscoZionist

There are more pictures up at Pictures of Muslims Wearing Things.

Sania Mirza is an extremely hot young lady.

What a cool site!

75 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:37:51pm

re: #68 SanFranciscoZionist

There are more pictures up at Pictures of Muslims Wearing Things.

Sania Mirza is an extremely hot young lady.

Yeah, I just saw that an hour ago or so. Yum. I’m also delighted to say that my gf would find the picture attractive.

76 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:39:14pm

And then there was Uncle Jim who made moonshine, but that’s a whole other story.

77 Gus  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:39:25pm

re: #73 SanFranciscoZionist

This is my favorite ghost tape on YouTube.

Watch. Enjoy.

That’s funny. 1.7 million viewers. I bet most of those were expecting to see a “real ghost”.

78 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:40:17pm

re: #73 SanFranciscoZionist

This is my favorite ghost tape on YouTube.

Watch. Enjoy.

I almost wet my pants.

79 Irenicum  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:41:34pm

re: #72 Decatur Deb

Not from what I see. But what I see isn’t all that. Looks cool though.

80 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:42:14pm

re: #78 eclectic infidel

I almost wet my pants.

It’s the ‘can you see it?’ screens that just make it for me.

81 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:42:57pm

re: #73 SanFranciscoZionist

This is my favorite ghost tape on YouTube.

Watch. Enjoy.

OMG! You can barely see it, but it’s there!

82 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:43:06pm

re: #80 SanFranciscoZionist

It’s the ‘can you see it?’ screens that just make it for me.

It’s definitely a hoot.

83 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:43:47pm

re: #55 marjoriemoon

Alabama has a number of old graveyards dating back to the civil war. Some that no one but the locals know about. My ex’s uncle always took us. Just during the day, and we would look at the headstones. A lot of young women who died in childbirth, 17-20 yrs old with a little grave next to it. “Baby Smith” some would say. Sad.

Lots of those up here. There’s one from the 1840’s I visit reguarly. The ones you mention are bad enough but the stones that make me ache are the ones for the 2 - 6 year old children dying of diseases we have vaccines for. The same diseases making a comeback because of stupidity… :banghead:

84 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:43:56pm

re: #79 Irenicum

Not from what I see. But what I see isn’t all that. Looks cool though.

This kind of middle-future thinking has practical applications, as in trying to develop signage to warn of dangers at nuke waste depositories.

85 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:44:27pm

re: #77 Gus 802

That’s funny. 1.7 million viewers. I bet most of those were expecting to see a “real ghost”.

Wait, wait, wait. Are you trying to tell me that wasn’t a real ghost?
/

86 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:44:57pm

re: #85 Slumbering Behemoth

Wait, wait, wait. Are you trying to tell me that wasn’t a real ghost?
/

Yeah. You guys think all mourning ghost mothers are graceful or something?

87 Gus  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:45:25pm

Yeesh. Was looking a spy and clicking some links.

A) Juan Williams was fired by NPR. Some people need to get over it.
B) Juan Williams won the Fox News lotto and will now get 2 million over the next three years for saying stupid shit on Fox News as they expect.
C) NPR will not lose it’s funding anymore than those homophobes at Liberty University are going to lose their government grants.

Carry on!

88 freetoken  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:45:50pm

re: #68 SanFranciscoZionist

Sania Mirza is an extremely hot young lady.

Pineapples!

89 Irenicum  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:46:00pm

re: #87 Gus 802

Hehe.

90 Gus  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:46:45pm

It’s! Should be its. Grrr.

91 Irenicum  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:47:15pm

re: #88 freetoken

Cue hot chicka.

92 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:47:59pm

Sorry I’m in so late. My life has been hell today.

93 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:48:25pm

re: #86 SanFranciscoZionist

Yeah. You guys think all mourning ghost mothers are graceful or something?

It was Rick Sanchez looking for his career.

94 Irenicum  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:48:52pm

re: #92 Dark_Falcon

Sorry man. Let us make it better…

95 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:49:38pm

re: #88 freetoken

Pineapples!

Ah. The fruit is sweet, is it not?

96 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:49:40pm

re: #92 Dark_Falcon

Sorry I’m in so late. My life has been hell today.

Sorry to hear it. I had a truly ucky day at work.

97 freetoken  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:50:37pm

re: #91 Irenicum

Cue hot chicka.

re: #95 eclectic infidel

Ah. The fruit is sweet, is it not?

I blame SFZ for turning this into a boob pineapple thread.

98 Usually refered to as anyways  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:50:44pm

re: #96 SanFranciscoZionist

Sorry to hear it. I had a truly ucky day at work.

Hmmm, L ucky or Y ucky, dunno…

99 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:52:30pm

re: #86 SanFranciscoZionist

I spent the night in a “haunted house” once. I was a teenager, and everyone was talking up the “fact” that the ghost of a young woman was always appearing in the room I would be sleeping in. I suppose they were trying to spook me or something.

Long story short, after one fat spliff and several hours of trying to stay awake, I eventually succumbed to sleep and woke up disappointed. I guess “Hot Ghost Chick” was not on the menu that night.

100 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:53:22pm

re: #97 freetoken

re: #95 eclectic infidel

I blame SFZ for turning this into a boob pineapple thread.

Really, it’s Ms. Mirza’s thighs I find most lovely.

101 Gus  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:54:30pm

re: #97 freetoken

re: #95 eclectic infidel

I blame SFZ for turning this into a boob pineapple thread.

Speaking of boobs.

102 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:55:00pm

re: #100 SanFranciscoZionist

Really, it’s Ms. Mirza’s thighs I find most lovely.

I don’t remember a “thigh” pun thread. Probably not very humerus.

103 Irenicum  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:55:04pm

re: #97 freetoken

Cheeky comments might just do that…

104 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:55:05pm

re: #100 SanFranciscoZionist

Really, it’s Ms. Mirza’s thighs I find most lovely.

My eyes focused first there as well. Secondly, her lovely face. Thirdly, the pineapple.

105 b_sharp  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:55:12pm

re: #20 Killgore Trout

I’ve never been superstitious but when I bought my 100 year old house I had a flaky girlfriend. Every night before bed she’d lock and latch the door to the basement. I was scared of my own basement for years after she left. It’s contagious.

Lock the basement. Of course. That’s where they live. Under the stairs.

106 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:55:51pm

re: #100 SanFranciscoZionist

I’ll be in my bunk. *ahem*

107 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:56:09pm

re: #105 b_sharp

Lock the basement. Of course. That’s where they live. Under the stairs.

So you’d better go check.

With a candle.

Not a flashlight. Of course not.

A candle.

And periodically say, “Hey guys, it’s not funny anymore!”

Come back and tell us how it went.

108 Irenicum  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:56:20pm

re: #97 freetoken

Sorry. I’m just a boob…

109 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:56:27pm

re: #94 Irenicum

Sorry man. Let us make it better…

I don’t know that you can. I went to work with high hopes for a big sale, only see them dashed by pure friction, then I came home to another problem. Now I’m worried about how I’m going to eat this coming week. It’s just horrible.

110 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:57:08pm

re: #102 Decatur Deb

Well done, sir, well done!

111 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:58:19pm

re: #107 EmmmieG

So you’d better go check.

With a candle.

Not a flashlight. Of course not.

A candle.

And periodically say, “Hey guys, it’s not funny anymore!”

Come back and tell us how it went.

And if you can, fumble with an absurdly large set of keys and jiggle your pineapples just a little.

112 Irenicum  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:58:26pm

re: #109 Dark_Falcon

Oh man. I am sorry. I’ve traveled these words all too well. If it’s cool with you, my prayers are with you.

113 b_sharp  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 7:59:53pm

re: #35 SanFranciscoZionist

Ghosts can’t get out of a locked basement?

Rules.

114 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:01:54pm

re: #109 Dark_Falcon

I don’t know that you can. I went to work with high hopes for a big sale, only see them dashed by pure friction, then I came home to another problem. Now I’m worried about how I’m going to eat this coming week. It’s just horrible.

Ahh these are the days where rice and pasta become fine cuisine. Sorry to hear it :(

I had my wisdom tooth pulled. It wasn’t nearly as bad as I anticipated.

115 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:02:59pm

re: #112 Irenicum

Oh man. I am sorry. I’ve traveled these words all too well. If it’s cool with you, my prayers are with you.

Thanks. If you could, send me an email. I have question I must ask.

116 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:03:19pm

re: #114 marjoriemoon

Ahh these are the days where rice and pasta become fine cuisine. Sorry to hear it :(

I had my wisdom tooth pulled. It wasn’t nearly as bad as I anticipated.

The drugs used these days are just amazing for numbing pain and sensation.

117 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:03:35pm

re: #109 Dark_Falcon

Sorry to hear it, bro. Make use of your local food bank if you can. Those have saved my ass on any number of occasions.

If I ever find myself in a position to be charitable, I will be donating heavily to food bank operations. Love those guys.

118 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:03:52pm

1894 film of plains Ghost Dance

[Link: www.google.com…]

119 freetoken  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:04:23pm

re: #108 Irenicum

Sorry. I’m just a boob…

Sir, I’ve seen real boobs, and I can assure you that you are not a boob.

120 Irenicum  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:05:52pm

re: #115 Dark_Falcon

Pretty simple actually. Just my nic and gmail. I’ll gladly respond.

121 freetoken  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:07:56pm

Looks like the VA Beach GOP is quite a nest of … something or other…

Going racially rogue in Virginia

Talk about going off message: Scott Rigell, the Republican challenger for Virginia’s Second Congressional District seat held by first-term Democrat Glenn Nye, had a simple, effective strategy. Pound the nominal incumbent in campaign ads by linking Nye with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., the liberal power broker Republicans love to hate.

But this week, Rigell supporters decided to freelance and forward racially charged e-mails to friends. On Tuesday Karen Beauchamp recommended an online video called “Barack Obama, the angry negro.”

The former member of the Virginia Beach City Committee warned colleagues, “the language is strong, but the sentiment is right! We will take America back.”

An ESPN anchor likes to say, “once is an accident, twice is a trend.’’ Day before Beauchamp’s faux pas, David Bartholomew, chairman of the Virginia Beach Republican Party, resigned after it was learned he forwarded an e-mail about a black dog applying for welfare. The message went viral and drew condemnation from Republicans and Democrats.

Excuse me, are a few Virginia GOP loyalists playing proverbial race cards?

The Obama e-mail episode hit the inside pages of the Daily Press, the local newspaper, Wednesday, and by Thursday, the story migrated to the front page.

[…]

File this one under “What Right-Wing Racism?”

Story linked has links to the offending webpage with the nasty vids.

122 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:08:04pm

re: #116 eclectic infidel

The drugs used these days are just amazing for numbing pain and sensation.

I would really suck as a scrip junkie. He offered me whatever I wanted, vicodin, percoset, demoral. I selected Tylenol III codeine because I think it would make me less loopy. I’m not a fan of loopy. They make me dizzy, too.

I really did need it after the novcaine wore off, but they only last about 4 hours. I woke up at 3a like someone hit me in the mouth.

123 Irenicum  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:08:09pm

re: #119 freetoken

I sure hope I’m not a boob….

124 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:08:21pm

re: #118 Decatur Deb

1894 film of plains Ghost Dance

[Link: www.google.com…]

AntiColonialist socialism!

125 Gus  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:09:13pm

re: #121 freetoken

Looks like the VA Beach GOP is quite a nest of … something or other…

Going racially rogue in Virginia

File this one under “What Right-Wing Racism?”

Story linked has links to the offending webpage with the nasty vids.

Seriously. WTF?

126 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:10:07pm

re: #117 Slumbering Behemoth

Sorry to hear it, bro. Make use of your local food bank if you can. Those have saved my ass on any number of occasions.

If I ever find myself in a position to be charitable, I will be donating heavily to food bank operations. Love those guys.

So good to hear!! ((SB)) I organize a drive each year at my job for Feeding South Florida.

127 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:10:28pm

re: #124 Killgore Trout

AntiColonialist socialism!

I wear the Morning Star.

128 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:10:49pm

re: #122 marjoriemoon

I would really suck as a scrip junkie. He offered me whatever I wanted, vicodin, percoset, demoral. I selected Tylenol III codeine because I think it would make me less loopy. I’m not a fan of loopy. They make me dizzy, too.

I really did need it after the novcaine wore off, but they only last about 4 hours. I woke up at 3a like someone hit me in the mouth.

If pain persists into next week, ask for a script of vicodin if you’re ok with that drug. If he gives you high milligram tablets, you can always break them in half.

129 freetoken  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:11:36pm

re: #125 Gus 802

Yeah, the video that was on the website sent out in the second email was one that was pulled from Youtube.

Even worse I think is the first incident, of the photo showing a black dog applying for welfare.

Virginia Beach - isn’t that where Pat Robertson has his headquarters?

130 Gus  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:12:34pm

re: #129 freetoken

Yeah, the video that was on the website sent out in the second email was one that was pulled from Youtube.

Even worse I think is the first incident, of the photo showing a black dog applying for welfare.

Virginia Beach - isn’t that where Pat Robertson has his headquarters?

I think so. It’s also a Navy town.

131 Gus  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:14:11pm

re: #129 freetoken

Yeah, the video that was on the website sent out in the second email was one that was pulled from Youtube.

Even worse I think is the first incident, of the photo showing a black dog applying for welfare.

Virginia Beach - isn’t that where Pat Robertson has his headquarters?

I had put up a link regarding the email flap over at the VA Beach GOP:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

132 Lidane  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:14:21pm

Completely OT, but bye bye, Yankees! Texas is off to the World Series, not you. :D

133 b_sharp  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:15:24pm

re: #132 Lidane

Completely OT, but bye bye, Yankees! Texas is off to the World Series, not you. :D


[Video]

Oh, hush up.

134 freetoken  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:15:59pm

re: #131 Gus 802

So many Pages go up these days that I miss some. Thanks for the heads up.

135 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:17:03pm

re: #126 marjoriemoon

So good to hear!! ((SB)) I organize a drive each year at my job for Feeding South Florida.

Oh, I love you. You’re doing great work, and if the folks don’t actually tell you themselves, know that they are deeply grateful for your service.

I haven’t had cause to go to a food bank for over fifteen years, but I’ll never forget how grateful I was (and still am) that people like you were there to help people like me.

*SMOOCH!*

136 Lidane  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:17:03pm

re: #133 b_sharp

Oh, hush up.

Heh. ;)

137 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:18:28pm

re: #128 eclectic infidel

If pain persists into next week, ask for a script of vicodin if you’re ok with that drug. If he gives you high milligram tablets, you can always break them in half.

Actually I went to work today with Advil and I’m fine now, but yes, I thought of that.

138 steve  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:19:52pm

Very nice Charles. The only distraction was the cresent shape near the top and left of center.

139 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:19:54pm

Juan Williams is in no way sincere

“I do a double take. I have a moment of anxiety of fear given what happened on 9/11. That’s just a reality,” he said, noting that when he told his former boss, she suggested that Williams had made a bigoted statement.

“It’s not a bigoted statement. In fact, in the course of this conversation with Bill O’Reilly, I said we have an obligation as Americans to be careful to protect the constitutional rights of everyone in our country and to make sure that we don’t have any outbreak of bigotry. but that there’s a reality. You can not ignore what happened on 9/11 and you cannot ignore the connection to Islamic radicalism, and you can’t ignore the fact of what has even recently been said in court with regard to this is the first drop of blood in a Muslim war in America.”


“I do a double take”?

Bullshit, double take. This guy wanted his big money payday at fox. This angle where he’s suddenly all become gellerized, this is 100% calculated to get the big fox contract and the big news cycle where he makes a show of distancing himself from NPR for his new brand

it’s theater, dudes, it’s as completely calculated as anything a Hollywood star does, when they manipulate the tabloids, when their publicist starts leaking material to the media

140 freetoken  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:20:57pm

re: #138 steve

???

141 Gus  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:21:00pm

re: #138 steve

Que?

142 b_sharp  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:21:24pm

re: #136 Lidane

Heh. ;)

Texas cheated. They got two runs on a home run.

143 Gus  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:21:56pm

Call the ball! 10 bucks says this one is up to something.

144 jaunte  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:22:53pm

re: #139 WindUpBird

The local talk radio conservatives were milking it like crazy this morning, agitating the listeners with talk of censorship, free speech rights, and peecee.

145 Lidane  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:23:36pm

re: #142 b_sharp

Texas cheated. They got two runs on a home run.

How’s that bloated Yankees payroll workin’ out for ya?

/Palin

146 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:24:56pm

re: #135 Slumbering Behemoth

Oh, I love you. You’re doing great work, and if the folks don’t actually tell you themselves, know that they are deeply grateful for your service.

I haven’t had cause to go to a food bank for over fifteen years, but I’ll never forget how grateful I was (and still am) that people like you were there to help people like me.

*SMOOCH!*

You so sweet :) Down here, it’s a good way to get rid of your hurricane stock of canned and dry goods that you didn’t use.

Feeding South Florida was f/k/a Daily Bread Food Bank, but they had a terrible fire and lost 93,000 lbs of food. They became FSF and are almost completely restocked by Dade and Broward residents now.

147 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:25:58pm

re: #120 Irenicum

Pretty simple actually. Just my nic and gmail. I’ll gladly respond.

Email sent.

148 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:26:37pm

re: #144 jaunte

The local talk radio conservatives were milking it like crazy this morning, agitating the listeners with talk of censorship, free speech rights, and peecee.

So, wait. The first amendment guarantees our right to have and keep a job, but that whole “separation of church and state” thing is bullshit?

That’s not the constitution I thought I knew.
/

149 b_sharp  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:26:54pm

re: #147 Dark_Falcon

Email sent.

How bad is it going to be D_F?

150 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:26:56pm

It must be subliminal! mmwwhhaaa

151 Gus  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:27:04pm

Well, maybe he’s drunk.

152 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:27:09pm

re: #92 Dark_Falcon

Sorry I’m in so late. My life has been hell today.

{{{DF}}}

153 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:27:33pm

re: #138 steve

Very nice Charles. The only distraction was the cresent shape near the top and left of center.

Why was it a distraction? At what point in the video did it appear?

154 jaunte  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:28:47pm

re: #148 Slumbering Behemoth

The same radio talkers are big fans of Texas being a ‘right to work’ state (meaning you can be terminated whenever convenient for the employer) so it’s a bit confusing.

155 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:29:04pm

re: #148 Slumbering Behemoth

So, wait. The first amendment guarantees our right to have and keep a job, but that whole “separation of church and state” thing is bullshit?

That’s not the constitution I thought I knew.
/

Yeah, you missed the ammendment wherein we have the right to eat until we pass out on one Thursday in November.

Oh, wait, that’s just a national holiday.

Nebbermind. I get confused.

156 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:29:38pm

I just realized I could save $5 and order up a ham and pineapple pie!

157 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:30:14pm

re: #117 Slumbering Behemoth

Sorry to hear it, bro. Make use of your local food bank if you can. Those have saved my ass on any number of occasions.

If I ever find myself in a position to be charitable, I will be donating heavily to food bank operations. Love those guys.

Seriously. I have used them more than I sometimes care to admit but when on the upside I give to them. If you have a church, ask there as well.

158 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:30:22pm

re: #154 jaunte

The same radio talkers are big fans of Texas being a ‘right to work’ state (meaning you can be terminated whenever convenient for the employer) so it’s a bit confusing.

They’re also the same people who thought Shirley Sherrod should have her ass canned for saying something they (struggled and strived) to find racially improper.

159 steve  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:30:24pm

Sorry about the cresent thing. Just found out that it is the monitor at work that I am using. My apologies to everyone. It still is nice video though.

160 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:30:56pm

re: #139 WindUpBird

Juan Williams is in no way sincere


“I do a double take”?

Bullshit, double take. This guy wanted his big money payday at fox. This angle where he’s suddenly all become gellerized, this is 100% calculated to get the big fox contract and the big news cycle where he makes a show of distancing himself from NPR for his new brand

it’s theater, dudes, it’s as completely calculated as anything a Hollywood star does, when they manipulate the tabloids, when their publicist starts leaking material to the media

I’d have to agree.

161 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:31:01pm

re: #156 eclectic infidel

I just realized I could save $5 and order up a ham and pineapple pie!

And slather it with BACON HOT SAUCE!

162 Gus  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:33:14pm

re: #159 steve

Sorry about the cresent thing. Just found out that it is the monitor at work that I am using. My apologies to everyone. It still is nice video though.

M’kay.

163 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:34:09pm

re: #146 marjoriemoon

If I were the type to remember to send Christmas cards every year, you’d be on my list as of right now.

164 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:34:29pm

re: #149 b_sharp

How bad is it going to be D_F?

I don’t know. That big sale is still likely on Monday, and if so it’ll help a great deal. But it’s been very painful today.

165 b_sharp  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:36:03pm

re: #164 Dark_Falcon

I don’t know. That big sale is still likely on Monday, and if so it’ll help a great deal. But it’s been very painful today.

I’ll be paying attention on Monday to see how things go.

166 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:36:17pm

re: #154 jaunte

In CA we are called “At Will” employees. Meaning we can leave a job “at will” without notice, and can be fired just the same.

re: #158 SanFranciscoZionist

Excellent point!

167 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:38:30pm

re: #159 steve

Sorry about the cresent thing. Just found out that it is the monitor at work that I am using. My apologies to everyone. It still is nice video though.

That’s cool. Wasn’t sure what your initial comment referred to, that’s all.

168 b_sharp  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:39:21pm

re: #166 Slumbering Behemoth

In CA we are called “At Will” employees. Meaning we can leave a job “at will” without notice, and can be fired just the same.

That sucks, for both parties.

169 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:39:40pm

re: #163 Slumbering Behemoth

If I were the type to remember to send Christmas cards every year, you’d be on my list as of right now.

hehe! And I would send you one back!

If you want to know more about it, I know you don’t live here, but Bruce is a good friend, a smart man and great philanthropist. He’s the president of FSF and talks about the issues here in S. Florida.

170 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:39:54pm

re: #168 b_sharp

That sucks, for both parties.

Yes, but in the end, it truly sucks for the employee.

171 engineer cat  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:42:25pm

re: #166 Slumbering Behemoth

In CA we are called “At Will” employees. Meaning we can leave a job “at will” without notice, and can be fired just the same.

the symmetry of this is deceiving, though, because generally an employee needs a recommendation from their last employer, whereas the employer doesn’t need anything from an employee who’s been suddenly dumped

172 webevintage  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:42:56pm

wow….
[Link: mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com…]

Asked about the intense media coverage of Mr. Williams’s firing, especially on Fox, Ms. Schiller said:
The overwhelming response to this has been, I have to say, quite extraordinary. I’ve had Fox News crews follow me from my home. I’m getting messages on my home voicemail insinuating threats against my children.
Do I think that is an overreaction to a termination of a contract of a news analyst who violated our code of ethics? Yes, I would have to say that that’s quite a bit of an overreaction.
It’s a personnel decision. I don’t see how that warrants threats against my children.

I wonder if Michelle Malkin has looked at her counters yet?

173 jaunte  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:47:22pm

re: #172 webevintage

It’s odd for anyone to be upset over Williams’ ‘firing’ if they stop and think that it freed him to accept a better offer for $2 million.

174 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:48:08pm

I want to take you higher


/Boom lacka lacka, boom lacka lacka
175 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:48:18pm

‘Nite, all

176 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:48:27pm

re: #171 engineer dog

the symmetry of this is deceiving, though, because generally an employee needs a recommendation from their last employer, whereas the employer doesn’t need anything from an employee who’s been suddenly dumped

oh yeah, at will totally favors the employer

177 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:51:02pm

re: #168 b_sharp

Worse for the employee, though. Especially in a company that burns through applicants faster than a bum burns through matches.

It’s lopsided in application. Sure, I can quit a job on the spot without explanation or consequence, but the same applies to the company that wants to fire me because they don’t like my taste in music.

178 austin_blue  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:53:54pm

So. Open thread. Any predictions on John Boenher’s agenda? The R’s are *going* to take the House, but not the Senate.

179 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:54:08pm

re: #177 Slumbering Behemoth

Worse for the employee, though. Especially in a company that burns through applicants faster than a bum burns through matches.

It’s lopsided in application. Sure, I can quit a job on the spot without explanation or consequence, but the same applies to the company that wants to fire me because they don’t like my taste in music.

Or it is determined that you don’t mesh well with the ‘culture’ of the company after being hired. This has happened to a couple of friends of mine.

180 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:57:05pm

re: #178 austin_blue

So. Open thread. Any predictions on John Boenher’s agenda? The R’s are *going* to take the House, but not the Senate.

Stop being so cheerful about it. The wingnuttier contingent on this blog is convinced that we’re all in denial. I think it’s projection.

Boehner’s agenda? Tax cuts and deregulation.

181 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:58:20pm

OK. This is on Cakewrecks, but I think it is an AWESOME cake.

182 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:58:35pm
183 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:58:57pm

re: #176 WindUpBird

oh yeah, at will totally favors the employer

The only good news is that in Illinois, the unemployment laws do somewhat favor ex-employees. In order to deny benefits, an employers must show willful misconduct, which means they can’t just fire you and refuse to pay.

184 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 8:59:48pm

re: #182 SanFranciscoZionist

Sorry. This is an awesome cake.

*snort* lol Where would you serve it?

185 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:00:22pm

re: #180 SanFranciscoZionist

Stop being so cheerful about it. The wingnuttier contingent on this blog is convinced that we’re all in denial. I think it’s projection.

Boehner’s agenda? Tax cuts and deregulation.

If he sticks to economic issues, he’ll do OK. What he needs to avoid is Culture War issues at least to the extent that he can.

186 HoosierHoops  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:00:40pm

re: #179 eclectic infidel

Or it is determined that you don’t mesh well with the ‘culture’ of the company after being hired. This has happened to a couple of friends of mine.

interesting…If you are paid a six figure salary to advance and grow the company vision..Why can they not fire you on the spot if you fail in those goals? No one will cry a tear for me if I can’t cut it in the corporate world…And no one cheers me when I make a huge year end bonus for my work…No one forced me to accept the ground rules.. Huge rewards..Huge failures
Go big or go home…

187 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:01:17pm

Good evening, all.

Long time, no post. Well, with the Bitter Half and the Board of Directors (wife and kiddos) out of town to visit my in-laws, I bethought myself to pass the time with some Oswald Spengler and a batch of liquid apple pie (made by combining roughly equal quantities of apple juice and apple cider with about half their volume of Everclear).

Ya know, once you put down a couple snorts of the stuff, Spengler’s quite amusing.

“We of the 20th century go downhill with our eyes open,” and other rib-ticklers.

188 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:01:57pm

re: #184 marjoriemoon

*snort* lol Where would you serve it?

Here?

189 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:02:03pm

re: #184 marjoriemoon

*snort* lol Where would you serve it?

Annual Dinner for the Society of Christian Paleontologists? It’s really too cute to eat though. Might make a nice picture for a little boy’s room.

190 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:02:17pm

re: #184 marjoriemoon

*snort* lol Where would you serve it?

It could be served at my bday party. I don’t have any born-again friends and the ones who are Christian aren’t of the fundamentalist sort (/big surprise).

191 KingKenrod  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:02:53pm

re: #178 austin_blue

So. Open thread. Any predictions on John Boenher’s agenda? The R’s are *going* to take the House, but not the Senate.

Useless investigations.

The House can pass anything they want, but most of it will be targeted to force Democrats to take unpopular positions to set the stage for 2012. Like 1994, the House passed tons of Contract with America legislation but very little of it passed into law, nothing really changed. I suspect it will be the same way for the next two years.

192 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:03:08pm

re: #185 Dark_Falcon

If he sticks to economic issues, he’ll do OK. What he needs to avoid is Culture War issues at least to the extent that he can.

Let us all cross our fingers, and any other body parts that seem appropriate.

193 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:03:29pm

re: #186 HoosierHoops

interesting…If you are paid a six figure salary to advance and grow the company vision..Why can they not fire you on the spot if you fail in those goals? No one will cry a tear for me if I can’t cut it in the corporate world…And no one cheers me when I make a huge year end bonus for my work…No one forced me to accept the ground rules.. Huge rewards..Huge failures
Go big or go home…

It’s not so cut and dry if I hear what electric is saying. We have that “culture” insanity too, which usually goes along with “we’re a big happy family.” Although my rebuttal to that is, my family doesn’t fire people when we get cranky with them.

All too often I’ve seen people shoved out, not so much fired, for not fitting in.

194 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:03:30pm

re: #179 eclectic infidel

It’s happened to me a couple of times. It usually gets backed up with some company policy violation bullshit.

One company fired me for inappropriate use of their email system. You see, I had the unmitigated gall to receive inappropriate, unsolicited emails. Not send mind you, but receive.

I’m sure it had nothing at all to do with the fact that I brought up possible state and federal labor law violations regarding another company policy just three days prior to my termination.

195 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:03:38pm

re: #189 SanFranciscoZionist

Annual Dinner for the Society of Christian Paleontologists? It’s really too cute to eat though. Might make a nice picture for a little boy’s room.

#1 daughter would love it, as she’s quite convinced that the Almighty made dinosaurs so people would have something interesting to talk about.

196 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:04:04pm

re: #186 HoosierHoops

interesting…If you are paid a six figure salary to advance and grow the company vision..Why can they not fire you on the spot if you fail in those goals? No one will cry a tear for me if I can’t cut it in the corporate world…And no one cheers me when I make a huge year end bonus for my work…No one forced me to accept the ground rules.. Huge rewards..Huge failures
Go big or go home…

They can fire you if they don’t like you. It’s as simple as that. It may or may not have anything to do with performance. More than often, the move is political in nature, though on paper, it’s made to look perfectly legal.

197 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:05:26pm

re: #193 marjoriemoon

It’s not so cut and dry if I hear what electric is saying. We have that “culture” insanity too, which usually goes along with “we’re a big happy family.” Although my rebuttal to that is, my family doesn’t fire people when we get cranky with them.

All too often I’ve seen people shoved out, not so much fired, for not fitting in.

We happily shoved someone out of our family once for not fitting into the family culture.

Our family culture is not hitting your spouse. He didn’t fit in.

198 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:06:08pm

re: #195 Guanxi88

#1 daughter would love it, as she’s quite convinced that the Almighty made dinosaurs so people would have something interesting to talk about.

It just looks so content, all snuggled up like that. With the volcano going off in the background.

199 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:06:24pm

re: #197 EmmmieG

We happily shoved someone out of our family once for not fitting into the family culture.

Our family culture is not hitting your spouse. He didn’t fit in.

Well, there’s that!

200 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:07:02pm

re: #194 Slumbering Behemoth

It’s happened to me a couple of times. It usually gets backed up with some company policy violation bullshit.

One company fired me for inappropriate use of their email system. You see, I had the unmitigated gall to receive inappropriate, unsolicited emails. Not send mind you, but receive.

I’m sure it had nothing at all to do with the fact that I brought up possible state and federal labor law violations regarding another company policy just three days prior to my termination.

I was let go for having the audacity to call my then wife, twice, during a five hour period to let her know my phone extension (before I owned a cell phone) and my hours for the day (I learned of both details at different times of the day). Granted, each call was for less than one minute. I had successfully violated company policy for personal calls. It was bullshit but what could I do? NOTHING.

201 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:07:29pm

re: #198 SanFranciscoZionist

It just looks so content, all snuggled up like that. With the volcano going off in the background.

You’d think he’d be more mindful of the talons. I saw Jurasic Park ya know!

202 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:07:48pm

Now I have the Society of Christian Paleontologists in my head. They’re all geeky and wearing glasses and crosses, and have corny dinosaur t-shirts on.

203 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:07:59pm

re: #193 marjoriemoon

It’s not so cut and dry if I hear what electric is saying. We have that “culture” insanity too, which usually goes along with “we’re a big happy family.” Although my rebuttal to that is, my family doesn’t fire people when we get cranky with them.

All too often I’ve seen people shoved out, not so much fired, for not fitting in.

By me, we have this passive-aggressive thing working for us. Guy’s screwing up, or looked funny at someone, or whatever it might be, and if he’s past the 90 day mark (and hence, in principle, eligible for unemployment) we put insane pressure and impossible tasks on him, double-down on the abuse and contempt, and, in general, do everything we can to make him quit.

He doesn’t quit, we have “the talk” - “Look, we’ll write you an excellent letter of introduction and recommendation…”

204 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:09:43pm

re: #200 eclectic infidel

I was let go for having the audacity to call my then wife, twice, during a five hour period to let her know my phone extension (before I owned a cell phone) and my hours for the day (I learned of both details at different times of the day). Granted, each call was for less than one minute. I had successfully violated company policy for personal calls. It was bullshit but what could I do? NOTHING.

I can understand excessive personal calls, but that’s pretty stupid. Life goes on outside from 9-5, Mon-Fri and sometimes you have to use the phone.

205 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:10:04pm

re: #194 Slumbering Behemoth

It’s happened to me a couple of times. It usually gets backed up with some company policy violation bullshit.

One company fired me for inappropriate use of their email system. You see, I had the unmitigated gall to receive inappropriate, unsolicited emails. Not send mind you, but receive.

I’m sure it had nothing at all to do with the fact that I brought up possible state and federal labor law violations regarding another company policy just three days prior to my termination.

Nasty stuff. I’ve gotten the bum’s rush too. It’s not so much the being let go, even, as the dishonesty of the company letting you go.

206 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:10:24pm

re: #202 SanFranciscoZionist

Now I have the Society of Christian Paleontologists in my head. They’re all geeky and wearing glasses and crosses, and have corny dinosaur t-shirts on.

And the dullest conventions known to man.

207 b_sharp  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:10:54pm

re: #200 eclectic infidel

I was let go for having the audacity to call my then wife, twice, during a five hour period to let her know my phone extension (before I owned a cell phone) and my hours for the day (I learned of both details at different times of the day). Granted, each call was for less than one minute. I had successfully violated company policy for personal calls. It was bullshit but what could I do? NOTHING.

That would never happen here. The employer has to have documented cause to fire an employee.

208 jaunte  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:10:59pm

re: #178 austin_blue

So. Open thread. Any predictions on John Boenher’s agenda? The R’s are *going* to take the House, but not the Senate.

I predict a lot of golfing.

Mr. Boehner continues to travel to golf destinations on a corporate-subsidized tab, though now it is paid for through his political action committee, the Freedom Project. In the last 18 months, it has spent at least $67,000 at the Ritz-Carlton Naples in Florida, at least $20,000 at the Robert Trent Jones Golf Club in Gainesville, Va., and at least $29,000 at the Muirfield Village Golf Club in Dublin, Ohio, federal records show, for fund-raising events. [Link: www.nytimes.com…]
209 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:11:10pm

re: #203 Guanxi88

By me, we have this passive-aggressive thing working for us. Guy’s screwing up, or looked funny at someone, or whatever it might be, and if he’s past the 90 day mark (and hence, in principle, eligible for unemployment) we put insane pressure and impossible tasks on him, double-down on the abuse and contempt, and, in general, do everything we can to make him quit.

He doesn’t quit, we have “the talk” - “Look, we’ll write you an excellent letter of introduction and recommendation…”

I think that’s that way in most cases when they don’t want to pay unemployment.

Welcome back, btw :)

210 darthstar  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:11:51pm

Levi Johnston was on Bill Maher. He’s such a sweet, ignorant, and innocent kid that he and his guests actually started giving him real advice (get out of Alaska, go to college, etc.)…The only thing he said about Sarah was to agree with the woman who tried to prepare her for the Charlie Gibson interview in 2008 that she was a very angry and explosive person.

211 austin_blue  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:12:19pm

re: #180 SanFranciscoZionist

Stop being so cheerful about it. The wingnuttier contingent on this blog is convinced that we’re all in denial. I think it’s projection.

Boehner’s agenda? Tax cuts and deregulation.

Sorry, but tax cuts and deregulation won’t feed the bulldog that is the fundamental fiscal disaster that we face. Oddly enough, Mad magazine had it right in January ‘09:

Image: madcover.jpg

I fear we are in for two years of gridlock. when legislation that *must* occur- relating to tax policy, fiscal reform, entitlements, global warming, &c, won’t.

Ack.

212 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:12:28pm

re: #206 Guanxi88

And the dullest conventions known to man.

I’m sure they have a good time. If you can consider Bible Study, followed by Fossil Swap Meet a good time.

213 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:13:52pm

re: #209 marjoriemoon

I think that’s that way in most cases when they don’t want to pay unemployment.

Welcome back, btw :)

Yeah, but I tell you, we’ve got it down to an art-form. If you’re on salary (and you’re a sucker if you let them do that to you) then you’re on-call at all hours, and failure to respond in a timely manner to telephone calls or emails (even those received after normal business or even bedtime hours) can be enough to make for a VERY unpleasant day when you get back in.

It’s crappy, but it’s the way of the world, and better them than me, I suppose

214 HoosierHoops  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:14:02pm

re: #193 marjoriemoon

It’s not so cut and dry if I hear what electric is saying. We have that “culture” insanity too, which usually goes along with “we’re a big happy family.” Although my rebuttal to that is, my family doesn’t fire people when we get cranky with them.

All too often I’ve seen people shoved out, not so much fired, for not fitting in.

Hi MM..You very well may be correct…It has not been my experience in the Corporate world..First off..You damn better well fit in and you better perform above and beyond..That’s why you get paid the big bucks..Otherwise McDonalds is hiring down the street…That’s just my take on it…
Hope you are well

215 austin_blue  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:14:32pm

re: #187 Guanxi88

Good evening, all.

Long time, no post. Well, with the Bitter Half and the Board of Directors (wife and kiddos) out of town to visit my in-laws, I bethought myself to pass the time with some Oswald Spengler and a batch of liquid apple pie (made by combining roughly equal quantities of apple juice and apple cider with about half their volume of Everclear).

Ya know, once you put down a couple snorts of the stuff, Spengler’s quite amusing.

“We of the 20th century go downhill with our eyes open,” and other rib-ticklers.

Homeboy! South Austin is a lovely place to be, innit? Just a gorgeous night.

216 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:15:30pm

re: #215 austin_blue

Homeboy! South Austin is a lovely place to be, innit? Just a gorgeous night.

Heh, you’re behind the times, friend! I’ve packed up and hauled my happy ass out to guadalupe county.

You in that DMBA program?

217 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:15:51pm

re: #205 Dark_Falcon

Nasty stuff. I’ve gotten the bum’s rush too. It’s not so much the being let go, even, as the dishonesty of the company letting you go.

My sentiments exactly. I’ve been fired three times in my life, and all three times it was with dishonest garbage used as cover. For whatever reason, that shit stings me more than losing those jobs did.

218 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:16:40pm

re: #207 b_sharp

That would never happen here. The employer has to have documented cause to fire an employee.

Back before Anita Hill (remember Anita Hill?), chasing skirts was a big deal in the office and there wasn’t a lot you could do about it. If one of your bosses got aggressive with you and you didn’t respond favorably, he’d either make your life a misery or just fire you. There wasn’t much recourse from EEOC either, in an At Will state.

219 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:17:44pm

re: #210 darthstar

Levi Johnston was on Bill Maher. He’s such a sweet, ignorant, and innocent kid that he and his guests actually started giving him real advice (get out of Alaska, go to college, etc.)…The only thing he said about Sarah was to agree with the woman who tried to prepare her for the Charlie Gibson interview in 2008 that she was a very angry and explosive person.

Horseshit. He’s cad and an asshole. I can’t see how anyone could call him “innocent” after the way he trafficked in stories about the Palins. And sweet went out the door when he went to Hollywood to appear in a music video that he knew (or should have known) would be hurtful to Bristol Palin (who he had just gotten re-engaged to at that point).

Sarah Palin is a dangerous figure, but Levi Johnston is not a good person.

220 b_sharp  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:18:25pm

re: #218 marjoriemoon

Back before Anita Hill (remember Anita Hill?), chasing skirts was a big deal in the office and there wasn’t a lot you could do about it. If one of your bosses got aggressive with you and you didn’t respond favorably, he’d either make your life a misery or just fire you. There wasn’t much recourse from EEOC either, in an At Will state.

Oh yah, the good old days. Isn’t there a group of people trying to bring those days back?

221 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:18:29pm

re: #214 HoosierHoops

Hi MM..You very well may be correct…It has not been my experience in the Corporate world..First off..You damn better well fit in and you better perform above and beyond..That’s why you get paid the big bucks..Otherwise McDonalds is hiring down the street…That’s just my take on it…
Hope you are well

I am, my dear! And you too :)

To me, harassment laws have been very good for the office. As a woman, I mean. It’s made our jobs a lot more secure. Different experiences, for sure.

222 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:18:50pm

re: #214 HoosierHoops

You work for a big company, that understands the value of it’[s resources, human capital. Look at what you are doing for them, it’s out of loyalty!
And, you are happy to be doing it!
*waves*
Good place you are in!
Lucky Winston!

223 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:21:16pm

re: #182 SanFranciscoZionist

Sorry. This is an awesome cake.

OH LOL. I just shared with some friends who are lol’ing too!!

224 darthstar  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:21:31pm

re: #219 Dark_Falcon

He’s a kid who doesn’t even have a high school education. Sarah Palin was Governor of Alaska and she got into a fight with him in the national media, showing she was just as white trashy as anyone else with no education. He really is just young and dumb. I guess that’s enough to be a threat to Sarah and the people who worship her.

225 Stanghazi  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:21:38pm

re: #184 marjoriemoon

*snort* lol Where would you serve it?

At my birthday party!!! lol

226 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:22:43pm

re: #220 b_sharp

Oh yah, the good old days. Isn’t there a group of people trying to bring those days back?

Ugh… if you just wait a generation, people will forget eh?

I certainly didn’t mean to imply that all issues are sexual. That’s one thing I haven’t seen happen anymore which is good. What I do see still are both men and women who don’t fit in, but it’s probably a blessing in the end. You do have to find a place where you’re comfortable.

227 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:22:45pm

re: #214 HoosierHoops

Hi MM..You very well may be correct…It has not been my experience in the Corporate world..First off..You damn better well fit in and you better perform above and beyond..That’s why you get paid the big bucks..Otherwise McDonalds is hiring down the street…That’s just my take on it…
Hope you are well

nice black and white mentality

228 jaunte  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:22:52pm

re: #218 marjoriemoon

That happened to my wife (fired for not going along) at Allis Chalmers back when she was a teenager.

229 darthstar  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:23:12pm

re: #223 Stanley Sea

OH LOL. I just shared with some friends who are lol’ing too!!

I’m linking that as a birthday cake for all my facebook friends going forward. (lots of people I grew up with turned into jesus freaks)

230 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:24:06pm

re: #217 Slumbering Behemoth

My sentiments exactly. I’ve been fired three times in my life, and all three times it was with dishonest garbage used as cover. For whatever reason, that shit stings me more than losing those jobs did.

I’ve gotten the same treatment twice. In both cases it was because they didn’t want to pay severance. The second time was lousy enough that my boss actually helped make sure I still got unemployment. He’s a good egg and I was very grateful for the help.

231 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:24:30pm

re: #214 HoosierHoops

Hi MM..You very well may be correct…It has not been my experience in the Corporate world..First off..You damn better well fit in and you better perform above and beyond..That’s why you get paid the big bucks..Otherwise McDonalds is hiring down the street…That’s just my take on it…
Hope you are well

I’ll keep that in mind the next time I’m dumb enough to object to my company potentially violating state and/or federal labor laws with a proposed action.

/actually, next time I’ll just keep my mouth shut, let them fuck up, and then drop a dime on their ass.

232 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:24:37pm

re: #229 darthstar

I’m linking that as a birthday cake for all my facebook friends going forward. (lots of people I grew up with turned into jesus freaks)

The original artwork is also on the Internet. I mean the original Photoshopped artwork. The original original is also also on the Internet.

Just Google “Jesus holding baby dinosaur”.

233 austin_blue  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:24:41pm

re: #216 Guanxi88

Heh, you’re behind the times, friend! I’ve packed up and hauled my happy ass out to guadalupe county.

You in that DMBA program?

Umm…what?

234 darthstar  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:25:33pm

re: #232 SanFranciscoZionist

The original artwork is also on the Internet. I mean the original Photoshopped artwork. The original original is also also on the Internet.

Just Google “Jesus holding baby dinosaur”.

I’m familiar with it…just never saw it on a cake before.

235 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:27:17pm

re: #233 austin_blue

Umm…what?

I thought you were applying to the DMBA at SEU, or do I have you confused with another Central texas Reptile?

But, yeah, sold the mond house in South Austin - turned a handy profit, too - moved out to guadalupe county, bought a nice old house - same size - for about 1/3rd what the Austin one was, banked a crap-load of cash after paying off ALL FREAKING DEBTS.

Hell, i even learned to drive just shy of the 2 score year mark.

236 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:27:58pm

re: #224 darthstar

He’s a kid who doesn’t even have a high school education. Sarah Palin was Governor of Alaska and she got into a fight with him in the national media, showing she was just as white trashy as anyone else with no education. He really is just young and dumb. I guess that’s enough to be a threat to Sarah and the people who worship her.

With respect, I disagree. But I do think Sarah Palin is an utter nightmare in terms of the things she wants to do. I want her removed from all political influence ASAP.

237 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:28:17pm

re: #228 jaunte

That happened to my wife (fired for not going along) at Allis Chalmers back when she was a teenager.

The 80’s was it?

238 jaunte  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:30:17pm

re: #237 marjoriemoon

It was in Mississippi, so it might as well have been the 1930s.

239 b_sharp  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:30:59pm

We should all try to post something to kill this thread.

240 freetoken  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:32:54pm

re: #239 b_sharp

241 austin_blue  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:33:36pm

re: #234 darthstar

I’m familiar with it…just never saw it on a cake before.

Check this:


[Link: www.dailysquib.co.uk…]

Our Lord made nice with dinosaurs. Well, of *course* he did!

242 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:33:36pm

Ham and pineapple pie arrived. Munching first slice down now. Second slice gets the bacon hot sauce! As for the beer, I’m settling for ice cold filtered water. I’ll get more than enough carbs from this meal.

243 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:33:44pm

In other news, Guanxi88’s tobacco processing - part of long-term preparations to establish himself as Guadalupe County’s Baron of Bootlegging and ‘baccy when the wheels fall off - entered a new phase with the final round of experimentation on tobacco sauces and casings.

Using a blend of blackstrap molasses, apple cider, everlear as a soaking sauce prior to blocking and pressing his homegrown tobacco (note: this ‘sauce’ is eminently potable, and in fact is in his glass at this moment) he has succeeded in taming the native harshness of his tobacco crop and producing a pipe tobacco that compares favorably with many of the old-school codger burleys. Experimentation continues with his hungarian and turkish tobacco crops, with encouraging early results on his homegrown and home-processed cigarette tobacco.

244 HoosierHoops  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:33:49pm

re: #227 eclectic infidel

nice black and white mentality

I have many shades of gray in my opinions..don’t effen try to insult me..I’ve been around the corporate world for a long time…But if you want to take this to the next level..Go for it…But I am really tired so no promises of a lucid augment.. Here is your chance to trash my Black and White views…
*wink*

245 jaunte  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:34:08pm

re: #239 b_sharp

We should all try to post something to kill this thread.

The Cats were a rock band from Volendam, The Netherlands. Together with BZN, they were key figures of what came to be called the Palingsound (eel-sound), an umbrella for artists residing in Volendam (the country’s top seafood city).

246 b_sharp  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:34:15pm

My first attempt to kill the thread will be a Babylonian curse.

Owah tagoo fyam.

Owah tagoo fyam.

That should do it.

247 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:34:32pm

re: #239 b_sharp

re: #239 b_sharp

My stilettos just stepped all OVER your fingers.
Sorry for your pain.
Let’s do it again sometime?

248 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:34:55pm

re: #244 HoosierHoops

I have many shades of gray in my opinions..don’t effen try to insult me..I’ve been around the corporate world for a long time…But if you want to take this to the next level..Go for it…But I am really tired so no promises of a lucid augment.. Here is your chance to trash my Black and White views…
*wink*

i’m far too distracted with my pie to jump into a fray right now. my pie and farscape. yowza.

249 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:35:02pm

re: #242 eclectic infidel

Ham and pineapple pie arrived. Munching first slice down now. Second slice gets the bacon hot sauce! As for the beer, I’m settling for ice cold filtered water. I’ll get more than enough carbs from this meal.

Oh Mr. Moon is brewing his pumpkin beer for the season. It’s something new. He wants to try Mead next. I was kinda hoping he’d get into wine, but I think I have to wait.

The pumpkin beer should be interesting tho.

250 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:35:52pm

re: #244 HoosierHoops

Hello! YOU! I hope you are hanging in there?

251 b_sharp  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:36:47pm

re: #245 jaunte

The Cats were a rock band from Volendam, The Netherlands. Together with BZN, they were key figures of what came to be called the Palingsound (eel-sound), an umbrella for artists residing in Volendam (the country’s top seafood city).

I’m sorry, did you say something? I think I nodded off.

252 HoosierHoops  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:37:18pm

re: #248 eclectic infidel

i’m far too distracted with my pie to jump into a fray right now. my pie and farscape. yowza.

I really need some pie and some sleep…
I agree there are some corporations that suck and treat people unfairly

253 b_sharp  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:37:52pm

re: #247 Floral Giraffe

re: #239 b_sharp

My stilettos just stepped all OVER your fingers.
Sorry for your pain.
Let’s do it again sometime?

Please.

Can I have some more please?

254 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:38:51pm

re: #252 HoosierHoops

Pie?
What kind?
Blueberry? Apple or (gasp) vegetarian?
*waves*

255 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:38:58pm

re: #249 marjoriemoon

Oh Mr. Moon is brewing his pumpkin beer for the season. It’s something new. He wants to try Mead next. I was kinda hoping he’d get into wine, but I think I have to wait.

The pumpkin beer should be interesting tho.

Ohh. That sounds good. I’ve only had it once, a while ago. I will have to look for the microbrewed stuff in markets this month.

256 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:39:25pm

re: #252 HoosierHoops

I really need some pie and some sleep…
I agree there are some corporations that suck and treat people unfairly

I apologize for being insulting to you.

257 HoosierHoops  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:39:27pm

re: #250 Floral Giraffe

Hello! YOU! I hope you are hanging in there?

I won’t have another day off for about 3 weeks… I’m wiped out…
On the bright side..The beer is cold
/You are as cool as the other side of the pillow

258 austin_blue  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:39:32pm

re: #235 Guanxi88

I thought you were applying to the DMBA at SEU, or do I have you confused with another Central texas Reptile?

But, yeah, sold the mond house in South Austin - turned a handy profit, too - moved out to guadalupe county, bought a nice old house - same size - for about 1/3rd what the Austin one was, banked a crap-load of cash after paying off ALL FREAKING DEBTS.

Hell, i even learned to drive just shy of the 2 score year mark.

I’m way too old to go back to Saints Ed’s for another degree. Glad you did well well in moving to Seguin or environs nearby. Just be aware that SMI Inc. is no company you want to live anywhere near to. Major chlorinated solvent plume.

259 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:41:40pm

re: #257 HoosierHoops

I won’t have another day off for about 3 weeks… I’m wiped out…
On the bright side..The beer is cold
/You are as cool as the other side of the pillow

I ddo like that compliment!
Now, for you pie…
Blueberry, Apple, or what?

(I need time to practise, this baking thing..)
*smooch*
Be well!

260 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:42:10pm

re: #258 austin_blue

bah! I grew up across the river from where Union Carbide stored all the MIC that didn’t leak at Bhopal and elsewhere, and used to work with methylene chloride almost daily.

What’s a little plume among friends?

261 austin_blue  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:45:14pm

re: #247 Floral Giraffe

re: #239 b_sharp

My stilettos just stepped all OVER your fingers.
Sorry for your pain.
Let’s do it again sometime?

I said, “In these shoes?
I doubt you’d survive.”
I said, “Honey?
Let’s do it!”

262 jaunte  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:46:10pm

from Roger Ebert via twitter:
Dear Mr. Robert Zemeckis Sir

Mr Zemeckis sir, I wonder why you keep making movies with computer motion catcher. I feel real live video is better and less scary. My father feels you are lazy to record using real live cameras. My mother always says to me if I’m lazy, I’ll become fat like Aunt Aghanashini, so I’m careful not to be lazy and you had better be careful too because Aunt Aghanashini is very fat and you’re my favorite director in the whole world and I don’t want you to become as fat as her because then you can’t make movies anymore. My mother doesn’t think you’re lazy. She thinks your experymental. My father is laughing.
263 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:47:25pm

Pie, Pie
Me oh my!
Nothing tastes sweet, wet, salty and dry.
All at once. Oh well it’s pie!
Apple!
Pumpkin!
Minced!
and wet bottom.
Come to your place everyday if you’ve got em’.
Pie, Pie
Me oh my
I love pie!

~Andi MacDowell in “Michael”

264 HoosierHoops  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:47:57pm

re: #259 Floral Giraffe

I ddo like that compliment!
Now, for you pie…
Blueberry, Apple, or what?

(I need time to practise, this baking thing..)
*smooch*
Be well!

Apple! In Napa there was this place on 3rd Street called Nations that made home made Apple pies…Don’t tell anyone but I’d buy a whole pie go home and eat the whole thing..
I’m not long for this world..I am so tired tonight…and no pie dang it!
LOL

265 austin_blue  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:48:21pm

re: #260 Guanxi88

bah! I grew up across the river from where Union Carbide stored all the MIC that didn’t leak at Bhopal and elsewhere, and used to work with methylene chloride almost daily.

What’s a little plume among friends?

No problem! Really! Nothing to see here! The business of Texas is business! We are just going to trust these these multi-nationals to do the right thing! What could go wrong?

266 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:48:39pm

re: #263 marjoriemoon

LOL!
I need some baking lessons!
Sounds tasty!

267 b_sharp  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:49:39pm

G’night folks.

268 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:49:45pm

re: #258 austin_blue

re: #260 Guanxi88

bah! I grew up across the river from where Union Carbide stored all the MIC that didn’t leak at Bhopal and elsewhere, and used to work with methylene chloride almost daily.

What’s a little plume among friends?

And, as i think of it, you’re talking about a guy who grows his own tobacco, saucing it down with a mixture of Everclear, apple juice & cider, and a smidge of molasses. Hell, chlorinated solvents are the least of my concerns.

269 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:50:34pm

re: #264 HoosierHoops

You’ll be fine!
Dreaming of Apple Pies and a full, very full, upset tummy!!
That’s a LOT of pie to be eating in one night…

270 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:51:55pm

Just tried my first EVER General Ripper (grain alcohol and rainwater - well, deionized water). Not something I want to try again.

271 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:53:56pm

re: #259 Floral Giraffe

I ddo like that compliment!
Now, for you pie…
Blueberry, Apple, or what?

(I need time to practise, this baking thing..)
*smooch*
Be well!

Hey, Floral. Any good news on your front? I could use some. Today just sucked for me.

272 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:56:10pm

re: #262 jaunte

Speaking of Zemeckis

273 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:56:39pm

re: #270 Guanxi88

Just tried my first EVER General Ripper (grain alcohol and rainwater - well, deionized water). Not something I want to try again.

It’s like an army of trolls strolled down my throat, lighting their way with torches and highway flares.

274 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:57:00pm

re: #270 Guanxi88

Just tried my first EVER General Ripper (grain alcohol and rainwater - well, deionized water). Not something I want to try again.

I think I’ll stick to a Schlitz & shot of whiskey… ;)

275 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:57:48pm

re: #271 Dark_Falcon

Today just sucked for me.

Now, why don’t you just take it easy, Group Captain. And please make me a drink of grain alcohol and rain water, and help yourself to whatever you’d like.

276 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:58:37pm

re: #270 Guanxi88

Just tried my first EVER General Ripper (grain alcohol and rainwater - well, deionized water). Not something I want to try again.

Grain alcohol…is that the high proof stuff? 198.5 proof?

277 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:59:00pm

re: #274 wlewisiii

I think I’ll stick to a Schlitz & shot of whiskey… ;)

you know how it is - you’ve got a bottle of grain neutral spirits in the house, and, in the absence of adult supervision, one is tempted to experiment.

278 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 9:59:57pm

re: #276 eclectic infidel

Grain alcohol…is that the high proof stuff? 198.5 proof?

Yep. 8 bucks a fifth for Everclear 95% ABV

279 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 10:00:26pm

re: #278 Guanxi88

Yep. 8 bucks a fifth for Everclear 95% ABV

Like Bryl-Cream - a little dab’ll do ya!

280 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 10:00:58pm

re: #277 Guanxi88

you know how it is - you’ve got a bottle of grain neutral spirits in the house, and, in the absence of adult supervision, one is tempted to experiment.

Alas, for my liver’s sake, yes, I do know that temptation quite well… :eek:

281 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 10:02:02pm

re: #275 Guanxi88

Now, why don’t you just take it easy, Group Captain. And please make me a drink of grain alcohol and rain water, and help yourself to whatever you’d like.

Well, at least your water’s pure, General.

282 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 10:02:54pm

re: #280 wlewisiii

Alas, for my liver’s sake, yes, I do know that temptation quite well… :eek:

I recall, vaguely but with horror - my experiments involving mixing cheap-ass port 50/50 with cheapo mexican brandy.

A few slugs of that, and the addition of extract of kava-kava seemed like a sound and commendable idea for the second round. I slept like the dead, and woke like the living dead.

283 jaunte  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 10:04:29pm

Mark Knopfler Telegraph Road

284 HoosierHoops  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 10:05:47pm

re: #269 Floral Giraffe

You’ll be fine!
Dreaming of Apple Pies and a full, very full, upset tummy!!
That’s a LOT of pie to be eating in one night…

LOL I really need to hit the sack….Wanna hear a funny story today?
I haven’t received any mail since I moved here.. I called the post office today pissed off and talked to some sane employee.. Here is what was said..
Me: Why the hell haven’t I got any mail since I move here from Indiana?
Sir: You moved to Norman…
So what?
There are 40000 students in this town
So what?
Did you fill out the yellow card in your mailbox?
No
Try looking at the card and fill it out..We assume you don’t live here unless you do
Really?
Really.. 40,000 temp students
Crap!
No mail without filling out the card….
Who knew?

285 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 10:06:28pm

re: #271 Dark_Falcon

Life is well, here. Elder care is working for the elder ( I hate it, but I’m just supervising, at this point.) Anything that frees up some time for me, is good. Now, I am blessed with the problem of what do I do with this time.
It’s a good problem, and I am GRATEFUL to have it. I believe that gratitude is a good thing. Makes me a better person. Even if I don’t know which way is up, and I don’t,

286 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 10:07:59pm

re: #284 HoosierHoops

LOL!
You’ll be fine.
Just, pay attention to yourself, OK?
*smooch*

How’s Winston faring?

287 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 10:10:47pm

re: #278 Guanxi88

Yep. 8 bucks a fifth for Everclear 95% ABV

My experiments to-date:

1) liquid apple pie - delightful

2) A slug of it in a thermos of black coffee - just the thing for the deer-stand

3) Makes a wonderful bloody mary

4) Nice in lemonade

5) Very nice in ginger ale

6) Not recommended for spiking wine.

288 jaunte  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 10:10:55pm

One more…
Mark Knopfler - Brothers in Arms

289 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 10:12:38pm

re: #285 Floral Giraffe

Now, I am blessed with the problem of what do I do with this time.

Well, if you’re truly bored, you could always engage in the time honored human endeavor that enrages Our Lord Christine O’Donnell.

/just sayin’.

290 jaunte  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 10:13:22pm

re: #289 Slumbering Behemoth

Link?

291 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 10:15:46pm

re: #290 jaunte

I think you’d be happier getting one from FG, rather than one from SB.

/just sayin’.

292 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 10:17:07pm

re: #289 Slumbering Behemoth

Well, if you’re truly bored, you could always engage in the time honored human endeavor that enrages Our Lord Christine O’Donnell.

/just sayin’.

Thank you, I think!

293 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 10:17:13pm

What’s up people

294 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 10:20:04pm

re: #285 Floral Giraffe

Life is well, here. Elder care is working for the elder ( I hate it, but I’m just supervising, at this point.) Anything that frees up some time for me, is good. Now, I am blessed with the problem of what do I do with this time.
It’s a good problem, and I am GRATEFUL to have it. I believe that gratitude is a good thing. Makes me a better person. Even if I don’t know which way is up, and I don’t,

Glad to hear that.

295 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 10:21:02pm

re: #293 HappyWarrior

The sun, Moon & the sky. And all of our hopes and fears.
How are you?

296 jaunte  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 10:21:15pm

re: #293 HappyWarrior

Time to sleep, for me. Goodnight all.

297 [deleted]  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 10:24:01pm
298 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 10:25:40pm

I asked this question earlier today, no one seemed to have an answer, I’ll try again.

Anyone seen Canadian Club Ackbar?

299 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 10:25:43pm

re: #295 Floral Giraffe

The sun, Moon & the sky. And all of our hopes and fears.
How are you?

Just got back from the bar. Fun night.

300 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 10:26:59pm

re: #292 Floral Giraffe

Just here to help.

301 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 10:31:14pm

re: #298 Walter L. Newton

I asked this question earlier today, no one seemed to have an answer, I’ll try again.

Anyone seen Canadian Club Ackbar?

Not today, I have not.

302 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 10:31:41pm

re: #298 Walter L. Newton

Nope, not lately. Well, not ever, actually. Something up?

303 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 10:33:11pm

Wait, what?

“We are requesting asylum from Hollywood star whackers,” the Quaids said in a statement.

“They’re murdering celebrities in Hollywood. They really are,” said Evi Quaid, citing the deaths of David Caradine and Heath Ledger in the last two years. “We feel like we’re next.”

304 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 10:33:40pm

re: #298 Walter L. Newton

Yesterday, I believe, he was here.

305 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 10:38:52pm

re: #303 goddamnedfrank

Poor Dennis was never the same after playing the role of Elijah C. Skuggs. Pity.

306 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 10:42:35pm

re: #303 goddamnedfrank

Wait, what?

I must say that Randy Quaid didn’t seem like the type to just go nuts like that. But those words are those of someone who;d gone completely nuts.

307 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 10:47:25pm

re: #305 Slumbering Behemoth

Ugh. I meant Randy, damnit!

308 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 10:50:29pm

re: #306 Dark_Falcon
There is something very wrong there. I don’t know what the answer is, but there needs to be a mental health evaluation, IMHO.
It’s beyond just weird…

Good night all.
You’re not beyond weird, unless you want to be.
I think…

309 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 10:55:07pm

re: #302 Slumbering Behemoth

Nope, not lately. Well, not ever, actually. Something up?

Someone had stolen his emergency wind up/solar/battery operated radio, which he had in case of hurricane’s and stuff like that, and I told him I had one I could give him. He sent me an email last Tuesday, and I sent him a reply, I’ve not heard from him, nor do I think he has been on LGF since then.

Anyway, I mailed him the radio today and I just wanted to make sure he knew it was on it’s way and to be on the lookout for it.

I emailed him again today to let him know it was mailed, but no answer.

I was concerned, considering he is usually on here at least twice a day, before and after his work shift.

You know, I’m just a concerned troll.

310 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 10:56:56pm

re: #308 Floral Giraffe

You’re not beyond weird, unless you want to be.

Perhaps not, but I am far beyond normal. Just born that way, I guess.

311 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 11:02:20pm

re: #309 Walter L. Newton

Oh. Well if I happen to spot him here, I’ll try to remember to pass the message along. You’ll likely spot him before I do, though.

You know, I’m just a concerned troll.

Meh. I’ve given you plenty of shit for your posting style on occasion, but I’ve not pulled that card on you.

312 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 11:04:50pm

re: #311 Slumbering Behemoth

Oh. Well if I happen to spot him here, I’ll try to remember to pass the message along. You’ll likely spot him before I do, though.

Meh. I’ve given you plenty of shit for your posting style on occasion, but I’ve not pulled that card on you.

No… I won’t probably see him… I’m out of town starting Sunday morning through Tuesday evening. Girlfriend has a computer conference to attend, dragging me along since they booked everything for two people anyway… just so happens to be at the Dophin Hotel at Disney World.

Lucky me.

313 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 11:11:31pm

re: #312 Walter L. Newton

Have fun. “Lucky” bastard.

Perhaps you’ll get real lucky and network with folk that might have some leads on programming jobs. Either way, enjoy yourself.

314 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 11:14:08pm

re: #313 Slumbering Behemoth

Have fun. “Lucky” bastard.

Perhaps you’ll get real lucky and network with folk that might have some leads on programming jobs. Either way, enjoy yourself.

Hey… good idea, never thought about that. Yea, it’s a conference full of programmers, value added programmers who use/modify/maintain a point of sale product called Retail Pro. My girlfriend is a programmer.

And I’ve never been to any of the Disney parks, so I plan to take in a few of the attractions while she is sitting in boring seminars.

Thanks for that idea.

315 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 11:15:17pm

re: #314 Walter L. Newton

Hey… good idea, never thought about that.

Now you’re just being sarcastic.
/

316 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 11:17:12pm

re: #315 Slumbering Behemoth

Now you’re just being sarcastic.
/

No… I really meant that… I was just looking at the trip as a mini-vacation for me… it really never crossed my mind to make use of the conference to meet some people.

317 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 11:25:49pm

re: #309 Walter L. Newton

His internet connection could be “down.” I’ve been offline for a full week because of that issue. Just a passing thought. I hope he is well. Enjoy your trip. May it be fruitful for you.

318 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 11:26:37pm

re: #316 Walter L. Newton

Well shit. I hope the trip proves fruitful for you. In reading your comments, I can tell you’re not ashamed of doing any honest work regardless of the skill sets you possess.

Positive thoughts and positive attitudes. Here’s a toast to your future success, and I ain’t being sarcastic.

Network the fuck outta that mini-vacation.

319 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 11:31:39pm

re: #20 Killgore Trout

I’ve never been superstitious but when I bought my 100 year old house I had a flaky girlfriend. Every night before bed she’d lock and latch the door to the basement. I was scared of my own basement for years after she left. It’s contagious.

LOL!
What do you imagine might be down there?
FACE IT!
Says the lady who lived above a used bookstoe on Wilshire Boulevard, in LA.
Do not ask, what I found inside the hose, when coming home, alone.
I am grateful to be alive, some days.

320 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 11:37:16pm

re: #319 Floral Giraffe

LOL!
What do you imagine might be down there?
FACE IT!
Says the lady who lived above a used bookstoe on Wilshire Boulevard, in LA.
Do not ask, what I found inside the hose, when coming home, alone.
I am grateful to be alive, some days.

I’m gonna ask. Did you happen upon an intruder?

321 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 11:44:17pm

re: #319 Floral Giraffe

Do not ask, what I found inside the hose, when coming home, alone.

Right. I won’t ask what you found. But I am compelled to ask why you had the inclination to check the inside of your hose when you got home. Seems strange, even for you.

322 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 11:48:30pm

re: #308 Floral Giraffe

There is something very wrong there. I don’t know what the answer is, but there needs to be a mental health evaluation, IMHO.
It’s beyond just weird…

Good night all.
You’re not beyond weird, unless you want to be.
I think…

They’re clearly in love with Montecito, in spite of the fact that they can no longer afford to live there. I can sympathize with them a bit there, but the massive paranoia, money issues, grifting and dumbshittery is no way to deal with it.

Oh, wait, now Dog the Bounty Hunter is barking at them for ratings, yay:

A&E star and celebrity bounty hunter Duane ‘Dog’ Chapman issued a public challenge to Quaid and his wife Thursday night, urging him to turn himself into U.S. authorities or face being a segment on his hit show.

“At least do it for your wife and for how you were raised. If not, the Chapman family is coming after you,” he said to George Lopez on his late night show, Lopez Tonight.

323 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 11:49:05pm

re: #319 Floral Giraffe

Oh, one more question though. Water, hydraulic, air, or “other”.

324 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 11:50:47pm

Goodnight, all.

325 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 11:51:24pm

Wait…hose or house?

326 Eclectic Infidel  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 11:55:35pm

Now ze thread is approaching dead.

327 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 22, 2010 11:58:13pm

re: #325 eclectic infidel

Hose. She typed “hose”. That’s her story, and we’re gonna make her stick to it. Unless she has a funnier story.
/

328 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 12:21:48am

And now, for something completely different

Laters y’all.

329 freetoken  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 12:21:53am
330 Kruk  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 12:37:35am

re: #203 Guanxi88

By me, we have this passive-aggressive thing working for us. Guy’s screwing up, or looked funny at someone, or whatever it might be, and if he’s past the 90 day mark (and hence, in principle, eligible for unemployment) we put insane pressure and impossible tasks on him, double-down on the abuse and contempt, and, in general, do everything we can to make him quit.

He doesn’t quit, we have “the talk” - “Look, we’ll write you an excellent letter of introduction and recommendation…”

I guess employment law where you are is quite different from ours. Here in New Zealand “encouraging” someone to quit is called constructive dismissal, and it can cost employers a tidy sum.

[Link: www.ers.dol.govt.nz…]

331 freetoken  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 1:36:31am
332 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 1:44:07am

Can’t wait to hear the usual so-con suspects bitch about this: Fable III offers players gay marriage, adoption

333 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 1:45:50am

re: #332 WindUpBird

Can’t wait to hear the usual so-con suspects bitch about this: Fable III offers players gay marriage, adoption



One of my Fable 2 characters was gay.
ZOMGENDOFTHEWORLDITY!

334 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 1:52:07am

The Yankees lost.
LOL.
;)

335 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 2:40:21am

re: #333 Varek Raith

My Fable II character was accidentally gay. I just flipped through conversation options way too fast, and was generous with presents.

The fuck do I care? It’s pixels.

336 freetoken  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 2:41:35am
337 ClaudeMonet  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 3:08:07am

re: #334 Varek Raith

The Yankees lost.
LOL.
;)

I weep. So does Fox Sports, or whoever is televising the World Series this year.

In baseball, the Designated Winner doesn’t always win. More proof that baseball is not the NBA.

338 laZardo  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 3:39:08am

re: #337 ClaudeMonet

I weep. So does Fox Sports, or whoever is televising the World Series this year.

In baseball, the Designated Winner doesn’t always win. More proof that baseball is not the NBA.

In the NBA, the players don’t use steroids as much.

339 laZardo  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 3:40:13am

re: #332 WindUpBird

Can’t wait to hear the usual so-con suspects bitch about this: Fable III offers players gay marriage, adoption

The Sims has offered that since Sims 2.

Where the fuck have Microsoft been? ;)

340 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 3:40:50am

re: #339 laZardo

Fable 2 had gay marriage. Just no adoption.

341 laZardo  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 3:42:44am

re: #340 Obdicut

Fable 2 had gay marriage. Just no adoption.

The Sims 2 came out in 2004, Fable II in 2008.

342 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 3:46:57am

re: #341 laZardo

The Sims 2 came out in 2004, Fable II in 2008.

Fallout 2, 1998. One of the first to have a same sex relationship, iirc.

343 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 3:48:07am

re: #335 Obdicut

My Fable II character was accidentally gay. I just flipped through conversation options way too fast, and was generous with presents.

The fuck do I care? It’s pixels.

Lol, same here.

344 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 3:50:45am

re: #341 laZardo

Ah, but Fable I, which also came out in 2004, had gay marriage, too.

And the Sims 2 rather famously didn’t call gay couples ‘married’.

[Link: kotaku.com…]

345 laZardo  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 3:57:55am

re: #344 Obdicut

Ah, but Fable I, which also came out in 2004, had gay marriage, too.

And the Sims 2 rather famously didn’t call gay couples ‘married’.

[Link: kotaku.com…]

Ah, Dragon Age: Origins…and how the fangirls all swooned.

346 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 3:58:53am

re: #345 laZardo

Ah, Dragon Age: Origins…and how the fangirls all swooned.

Zevran is freaking hilarious.

347 laZardo  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 4:00:49am

re: #346 Varek Raith

Zevran is freaking hilarious.



Among other things.

348 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 4:06:53am
349 rwdflynavy  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 4:07:10am

Good Morning Lizards!

Time for a little Satch man!

350 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 4:14:06am

This page deserves reposting:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

351 rwdflynavy  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 4:19:25am

re: #350 Obdicut

This page deserves reposting:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

Very cool story!

352 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 4:24:34am

re: #349 rwdflynavy

Hi Navy, nice avatar. That’s a flight I wouldn’t want to be on.

353 laZardo  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 4:32:04am

re: #352 RogueOne

Hi Navy, nice avatar. That’s a flight I wouldn’t want to be on.

And that’s why I will never buy a vuvuzela.

You don’t want to know where that’s been.

354 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 4:45:17am

re: #353 laZardo

I thought it was a fertility horn (and a very successful one at that).

355 researchok  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 4:48:37am

Morning, all!

356 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 4:52:26am

I’ve never been to Venice. I’m guessing it kind of smells like polluted water. Am I totally wrong?

357 researchok  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 4:54:57am

No….but the smell isn’t…awful

358 laZardo  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 5:00:13am

Cartoon Network actually has a new MAD show.

MADtv was better though…

359 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 5:13:32am

re: #356 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I’ve never been to Venice. I’m guessing it kind of smells like polluted water. Am I totally wrong?

Depends on the time of year. I was there in March, you’d get the odd whiff of something, but nothing too raunchy.

360 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 5:22:18am

I’ve mentioned I’m kind of on the fence regarding the wikileaks episodes. On one hand I’m very pro-military but OTOH I’m all for a more transparent government. This is one of the stories coming out of the leaks that should have been addressed years ago:

Iran’s Training for Iraqi Militants Outlined in Leaked Pentagon Documents
[Link: www.bloomberg.com…]


Iran provided extensive aid to Iraqi militias, such as training an operative who kidnapped American soldiers, according to classified U.S. military documents published yesterday.

Almost 400,000 documents obtained by WikiLeaks.org include field reports from 2004 through 2009 describing Iranian backing for Iraqi Shiite militia. The papers provide details supporting warnings by U.S. officials of Iranian interference in Iraq.

In August 2005, for example, then-Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said that “weapons clearly, unambiguously from Iran” had been found in Iraq, and that Iran’s failure to prevent their transport across the border was “unhelpful.” In March 2006 Rumsfeld accused Iran of sending the Revolutionary Guards, an elite military unit, into Iraq to foment violence.

The documents, released in advance to the New York Times, the Guardian of the U.K., Germany’s Der Spiegel and Le Monde of France, were posted on the WikiLeaks website last night.

The very first time we could “prove” Iran had supplied materials and training that killed US soldiers….they should have been forced to pay a military price. Everytime an IED went off that we knew came from Iran, they should have lost a naval vessel, military facility, or equipment. Instead, we let them get away with killing americans because we were concerned with getting bad press.

361 laZardo  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 5:23:36am

re: #360 RogueOne

But maybe they wouldn’t be training militants as much if we didn’t invade and kill 100,000 people!

/half

362 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 5:25:23am

re: #361 laZardo

But maybe they wouldn’t be training militants as much if we didn’t invade and kill 100,000 people!

/half

We invaded Iran? /

I don’t blame them for stirring up shit but I do blame us for letting them get away with it.

363 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 5:26:19am

re: #360 RogueOne

I’ve mentioned I’m kind of on the fence regarding the wikileaks episodes. On one hand I’m very pro-military but OTOH I’m all for a more transparent government. This is one of the stories coming out of the leaks that should have been addressed years ago:

Iran’s Training for Iraqi Militants Outlined in Leaked Pentagon Documents
[Link: www.bloomberg.com…]

The very first time we could “prove” Iran had supplied materials and training that killed US soldiers…they should have been forced to pay a military price. Everytime an IED went off that we knew came from Iran, they should have lost a naval vessel, military facility, or equipment. Instead, we let them get away with killing americans because we were concerned with getting bad press.

You know, that’s something I consider a genuine leak. I know its illegal, but I can see someone with access to those documents being so frustrated that Iran could operate with impunity against Americans that they leak it. Same with the the documents concerning the American military’s refusal to investigate Iraqi torture.

364 Lidane  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 5:37:27am

re: #216 Guanxi88

You in that DMBA program?

Heh. That would be me. And yes, I’m in it and somehow managing to survive.

Also, thank god for federal student loans. Without them I’d be screwed.

365 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 5:40:51am

re: #364 Lidane

Heh. That would be me. And yes, I’m in it and somehow managing to survive.

Also, thank god for federal student loans. Without them I’d be screwed.

Obamacation!

366 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 5:47:11am

Herald readers seeing end of road for Barney Frank
[Link: www.bostonherald.com…]


Republican Sean Bielat has seized the attention of Herald readers who see a chance for the upstart challenger to unseat Democrat incumbent U.S. Rep. Barney Frank.

“I have been at several events across Wellesley and Newton in the past month and I can say I was actually shocked to see a lot of unhappy residents that were talking like maybe it needs a change,’’ said Mike.

“Beilat appears to me to be the ideal candidate to have a chance to defeat Frank,’’ said Johnny, a reader weighing in from L.A.

The Massachusetts Congressional races were the hot topic in yesterday’s Friday Throwdown on Bostonherald.com.

“He seems to be (making it a race),’’ said theFez of Bielat. “He needs to start talking about what he is going to do though and tone down on the Barney bashing. I think he’s beat that drum long enough.’’

I’d love to see Barney tossed out on his ass but I keep going back and forth on his chances of losing. If he wins, he wins by 12+….but he might not win at all.

367 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 5:49:03am

Barneys district looks like it was made for him, and I know most districts are very incumbent friendly. but it did just vote for S. Brown so maybe they have had enough of Mr. Frank.

368 Lidane  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 5:49:18am

re: #365 McSpiff

Obamacation!

Heh. I’ll take it over spending time at Glenn Beck University. ;)

369 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 5:50:32am

re: #368 Lidane

Heh. I’ll take it over spending time at Glenn Beck University. ;)

I bet the lab fees on GBU are pretty high too. 3 chalkboards and all that chalk is probably pricey.

370 RogueOne  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 6:05:23am

Getting an early start on a saturday, enjoy the weekend folks.

371 Jadespring  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 6:16:42am

Morning to whomever is around. :)

372 laZardo  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 6:21:06am

Speaking of the weekend, don’t you wish your copy room was more like this?

373 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 6:31:44am

Shedding the “widow’s weeds” folks.

Refusing to let the last two months of 2010 suck.

See y’all after work.

374 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 6:32:53am

re: #372 laZardo

What? Your’s isn’t?

375 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 6:50:03am

I was the first person to post that Juan Williams was fired at the end of an overnight thread the other day. And I have posted one or two thoughts on what happened. I said off the bat that his statements were misguided, but not hostile in the way Rick Sanchez’s were IMHO. But I think we should ask ourselves a tough question here. Was it handled properly, or was a respected man treated like crap because he dared to break intellectual “bread” with the “enemy.”. it seems to me he may have been treated poorly for trying in his own way to be bipartisan.

376 laZardo  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 6:53:42am

re: #375 _RememberTonyC

I was the first person to post that Juan Williams was fired at the end of an overnight thread the other day. And I have posted one or two thoughts on what happened. I said off the bat that his statements were misguided, but not hostile in the way Rick Sanchez’s were IMHO. But I think we should ask ourselves a tough question here. Was it handled properly, or was a respected man treated like crap because he dared to break intellectual “bread” with the “enemy.”. it seems to me he may have been treated poorly for trying in his own way to be bipartisan.

All I know is, apparently Sarah Palin is now trying to get Congress to de-fund NPR.

Gotta love staying on the Kos mailing list.

377 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 6:59:53am

re: #375 _RememberTonyC

I really don’t think so. I think he’s classless, given his previous comments— and lack of apology— about Michelle Obama, and I see no reason why I, or NPR, should give any of his recent comments the benefit of the doubt when it comes to integrity or honest intention.

I watched the entire video of him, and I feel it made him look even worse than the snippets that were extracted.

378 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 7:01:32am

Happy 6013th Birthday, Earth!

And as PZ points out, we have an excuse to party all week. Think world-wide Mardi Gras, with all the gratuitous public nudity, urination, vomiting, and pickpocketing that generally entails.

379 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 7:02:47am

re: #376 laZardo

All I know is, apparently Sarah Palin is now trying to get Congress to de-fund NPR.

Gotta love staying on the Kos mailing list.

I think in our country, if we have any sort of “state” media organs, there should be mandated diversity as far as the editorial direction of the network. There should be an ombudsman with clout who can monitor the programming. And if changes are necessary, make them. I think the GOPers trying to cut the funding are wrong and have chosen the wrong argument on that.

380 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 7:04:19am

re: #379 _RememberTonyC

I really do hope that the biggest news to come out of this is that NPR and it’s member stations are models of efficiency when it comes to government funding — 1-3% funding for NPR and 16% for the member stations.

381 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 7:04:42am

re: #377 Obdicut

I really don’t think so. I think he’s classless, given his previous comments— and lack of apology— about Michelle Obama, and I see no reason why I, or NPR, should give any of his recent comments the benefit of the doubt when it comes to integrity or honest intention.

I watched the entire video of him, and I feel it made him look even worse than the snippets that were extracted.

I have no doubt you tried to be fair. And I do believe that some would certainly give Juan the benefit of the doubt for what was clearly a misguided statement if he wasn’t “sleeping with the enemy” at FOX.

382 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 7:07:46am

re: #381 _RememberTonyC

He doesn’t feel the statement was misguided, though. He has refused to back down from it in the least, or mollify it at all.

And yes, I do think that his relationship with FOX should be taken into account, because Fox displays zero journalistic integrity, spreads anti-science propaganda, and have made their absolutely partisan leanings clear with their donations to the GOP.

383 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 7:09:55am

re: #380 Obdicut

I really do hope that the biggest news to come out of this is that NPR and it’s member stations are models of efficiency when it comes to government funding — 1-3% funding for NPR and 16% for the member stations.

I feel that PBS is a positive force in our society. And I don’t want people there to lose their jobs. I worked at A PBS station at the start of my career. Like any organization, it has flaws, but generally is fine by me.

384 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 7:13:01am

re: #382 Obdicut

He doesn’t feel the statement was misguided, though. He has refused to back down from it in the least, or mollify it at all.

And yes, I do think that his relationship with FOX should be taken into account, because Fox displays zero journalistic integrity, spreads anti-science propaganda, and have made their absolutely partisan leanings clear with their donations to the GOP.

OK Fine … And Juan Williams brought a moderate voice from the left to their conservative audience. Breaking “intellectual” bread in other words. I guess we’ll agree to disagree.

385 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 7:19:27am

re: #379 _RememberTonyC

I think in our country, if we have any sort of “state” media organs, there should be mandated diversity as far as the editorial direction of the network. There should be an ombudsman with clout who can monitor the programming. And if changes are necessary, make them. I think the GOPers trying to cut the funding are wrong and have chosen the wrong argument on that.

Quite Concur. I don’t think they even expect to actually defund NPR. At a guess, I’d say their plan is this:

1. Go after NPR to gain votes and take the House (maybe the Senate).
2. Pass a defund bill through the House and try to maneuver it through the Senate.
3. If the Senate Democrats block the bill, complain about that to fire up the base.
4. If the bill passes the Congress, Obama will veto it and they can then use that to bash Obama for being statist.

“Defund NPR!” is little more than a game.

386 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 7:21:51am

Heading out for a walk on a chilly new England morning … BBL

387 laZardo  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 7:35:47am

I can’t believe I go to school with these kind of people:

Would add link above, but you need to login…

388 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 7:41:00am

re: #387 laZardo

I can’t believe I go to school with these kind of people:


[Video]Would add link above, but you need to login…

What did your classmates do now?

389 laZardo  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 7:43:08am

re: #388 Dark_Falcon

What did your classmates do now?

Apart from assaulting my senses with their lack of taste, not much.

But yeah, gotta love art college cliques.

/hurr

390 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:00:23am

DEFUND NPR!
STOP OBAMA’S SMEAR!
SARAHPAC!
Lol@ads.
:)

391 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:01:21am

re: #384 _RememberTonyC

OK Fine … And Juan Williams brought a moderate voice from the left to their conservative audience. Breaking “intellectual” bread in other words. I guess we’ll agree to disagree.

I don’t think he brought a moderate voice from the left. I don’t think he’s a sincere man of integrity who’s bringing a true voice of any sort.

Did you read what he said about Michelle Obama?

392 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:03:22am

re: #385 Dark_Falcon

It also reveals the bankruptcy of the GOP’s grasp on finances; NPR and its member stations are a model of efficiency when it comes to a government-organized group. NPR gets almost no funding from the government, and the member stations get only 16%. They should be being held up as a model of what works, and instead the GOP is now aiming at them as a target.

Complete hypocrisy from a party that claims to be about fiscal responsibility, and a good sign of what’s going to come out of a GOP House.

394 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:16:31am

re: #2 deranged cat

aw. thought this was gonna be the bjork video for “Wanderlust”
any bjork fans here? any?
:crickets:

Day late and many dollars short, but yes.

I had a friend inflict The Sugarcubes on me circa 1988 / 1989, and I’ve been in love** ever since.

** um, not like this: [Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

395 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:18:43am

re: #392 Obdicut

It also reveals the bankruptcy of the GOP’s grasp on finances; NPR and its member stations are a model of efficiency when it comes to a government-organized group. NPR gets almost no funding from the government, and the member stations get only 16%. They should be being held up as a model of what works, and instead the GOP is now aiming at them as a target.

Complete hypocrisy from a party that claims to be about fiscal responsibility, and a good sign of what’s going to come out of a GOP House.

It has nothing to do with “what works” and everything to do with who NPR crossed. In my mind, NPR fired Juan Williams unjustly, for simply giving voice to fears that, while not really fair, are widespread and not born of bigotry. NPR is also seen as having been bribed by George Soros (who recently gave them money) into veering to the left and attacking Fox News. NPR is seen as the enemy by conservatives, so it is attacked. I myself think that NPR needs reform, but I do not favor defunding at this time.

396 Jadespring  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:21:19am

re: #393 Killgore Trout

Breitbart’s websites dream up even wilder NPR conspiracy theories: White House involvement, “stealth jihad”

“shariah-mandated stealth jihad”

That’s a mouthful.

Anyways this is pretty much how I read his charges….

Fear! Fear! OMG FEAR!!! Dudes and Dudettes YOU MUST FEAR OR BE DAMNED FOREVER!! (and oh yes please vote for the people that recognize the “FEAR FEAR” and you will be saved….a few bucks would help too)

397 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:23:34am

re: #395 Dark_Falcon

It has nothing to do with “what works” and everything to do with who NPR crossed. In my mind, NPR fired Juan Williams unjustly, for simply giving voice to fears that, while not really fair, are widespread and not born of bigotry. NPR is also seen as having been bribed by George Soros (who recently gave them money) into veering to the left and attacking Fox News. NPR is seen as the enemy by conservatives, so it is attacked. I myself think that NPR needs reform, but I do not favor defunding at this time.

Fox is attacked for it’s abject hypocrisy - and not just by the left, the middle knows it is a joke too. Calling a “news” organisation out on being a shill which directly employs several past and potentially future candidates for president (all from one party) as “analysts” is fair game.

I believe WIlliam’s termination was justified by the terms of his contract with NPR - as fearmongering is not their business, and while he is in their employ his public comments reflect on them.

398 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:26:45am

re: #393 Killgore Trout

Breitbart’s websites dream up even wilder NPR conspiracy theories: White House involvement, “stealth jihad”

What an ass But I must note that Media Matters also received a recent donation from George Soros and that does need to be factored in when reading their coverage of the Williams/NPR affair, as it could be argued that they will belittle the Soros angle for self-interested reasons.

399 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:26:49am

re: #395 Dark_Falcon

It has nothing to do with “what works” and everything to do with who NPR crossed. In my mind, NPR fired Juan Williams unjustly, for simply giving voice to fears that, while not really fair, are widespread and not born of bigotry. NPR is also seen as having been bribed by George Soros (who recently gave them money) into veering to the left and attacking Fox News. NPR is seen as the enemy by conservatives, so it is attacked. I myself think that NPR needs reform, but I do not favor defunding at this time.

I’m sorry, DF, but what you just said makes no sense. The government has no power to defund NPR because they don’t fund them. The government could cut off funds to NPR and they would keep on trucking.

Do you feel like it is a good thing for reporters to give voice to fears, to talk about their lesser feelings? Is that what journalism is?

What about NPR do you think needs reform? You want the Fairness Doctrine instated?

401 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:27:38am

re: #398 Dark_Falcon

Is there anything that you have against Soros that isn’t true of any wealthy man who contributes to politics?

You do know that a lot of the reason that he is attacked is because he is a wealthy Jew, right?

402 rwdflynavy  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:28:25am

re: #401 Obdicut

Is there anything that you have against Soros that isn’t true of any wealthy man who contributes to politics?

You do know that a lot of the reason that he is attacked is because he is a wealthy Jew, right?

I think the fact he is a raving leftist moonbat might be part of the reason…

403 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:29:46am

re: #398 Dark_Falcon

What an ass But I must note that Media Matters also received a recent donation from George Soros and that does need to be factored in when reading their coverage of the Williams/NPR affair, as it could be argued that they will belittle the Soros angle for self-interested reasons.


I think the influence of George Soros is way overblown by the wingnuts. He does have some influence and money but the claim that Soros is responsible for firing Williams is absurd.

404 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:30:34am

re: #397 wozzablog

Fox is attacked for it’s abject hypocrisy - and not just by the left, the middle knows it is a joke too. Calling a “news” organisation out on being a shill which directly employs several past and potentially future candidates for president (all from one party) as “analysts” is fair game.

I believe WIlliam’s termination was justified by the terms of his contract with NPR - as fearmongering is not their business, and while he is in their employ his public comments reflect on them.

I do not see his comments as “fearmongering”, and neither does David Frum.

405 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:31:02am

re: #402 rwdflynavy

I think the fact he is a raving leftist moonbat might be part of the reason…

He’s not, though. He’s a massively pro-capitalist dude who funds shitloads of pro-democracy movements in Eastern Europe, and has forever.

The ‘raving leftist moonbat’ portion of him has mainly come from anti-semites attacking him for daring to be a wealthy Jew influencing politics.

I do not agree with any man of wealth using his power and influence on politics. I hate that money equals speech. But as long as it does, it is absolutely ridiculous to attack Soros for doing what hundreds of others do.

406 McSpiff  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:32:08am

re: #395 Dark_Falcon

It has nothing to do with “what works” and everything to do with who NPR crossed.

Fox news? Angry bigots?

In my mind, NPR fired Juan Williams unjustly, for simply giving voice to fears that, while not really fair, are widespread and not born of bigotry.

Fear of muslims on planes is widespread, and not born of bigotry? Get fucking real. Nice strong condemnation of Juan’s views there too, “not really fair”.

NPR is also seen as having been bribed by George Soros (who recently gave them money) into veering to the left and attacking Fox News.

Soros!

NPR is seen as the enemy by conservatives, so it is attacked. I myself think that NPR needs reform, but I do not favor defunding at this time.

Who are you to dictate how a private charity is run? They break no laws, if their donors are happy with how’s it run that’s good enough for me. Go ahead and remove the 1-3% in indirect grants from the Federal government. After this I’m sure they’ll be more than made up for.

407 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:34:31am

I get nervous when I see Catholics near kids.
/Gee, I’d be piled on by the right everyone if I really believed the above and said it on TV.
And rightfully so.
Why, then, give Juan a pass?

408 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:35:06am

re: #383 _RememberTonyC

I feel that PBS is a positive force in our society. And I don’t want people there to lose their jobs. I worked at A PBS station at the start of my career. Like any organization, it has flaws, but generally is fine by me.

As you probably know, PBS is not NPR is not APM is not PRI. All the various public broadcasting entities are separate production and distribution organizations with distinct missions, and each competes with the other for programming slots on public radio stations.

409 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:35:21am

re: #403 Killgore Trout

I think the influence of George Soros is way overblown by the wingnuts. He does have some influence and money but the claim that Soros is responsible for firing Williams is absurd.

I don’t think Soros had anything directly to do with Williams’ firing. But I do think he targets his donations to support a leftward trend in politics in this country. That is his right, but I feel that pushing for such a trend is destructive. And I do feel that since the Soros angle is in play (even if only from wingnuts), they should disclose his support for MM in their articles. Even Fox News discloses if Newscorp or Rupert Murdoch is involved in a story they report.

410 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:35:44am

George Soros has probably done more to fight against the old Communist regimes in Eastern Europe attempting to hold onto power (under different names, and sometimes not-so-different) in the modern day, and his reward is getting called a raving moonbat. He had the courage to fund Solidarity and other anti-communist movements before the fall of the USSR, as well.

411 rwdflynavy  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:36:01am

re: #407 Varek Raith

I get nervous when I see Catholics near kids.
/Gee, I’d be piled on by the right everyone if I really believed the above and said it on TV.
And rightfully so.
Why, then, give Juan a pass?

You’ve said that several times on this board…you seem to really like disparaging Catholics.

412 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:37:17am

re: #411 rwdflynavy

Did you understand this bit?

/Gee, I’d be piled on by the right everyone if I really believed the above and said it on TV.
And rightfully so.

If you agree that Varek is ‘disparaging Catholics’ by saying that, then you agree that Williams was disparaging Muslims by saying what he did.

413 rwdflynavy  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:37:47am

re: #410 Obdicut

George Soros has probably done more to fight against the old Communist regimes in Eastern Europe attempting to hold onto power (under different names, and sometimes not-so-different) in the modern day, and his reward is getting called a raving moonbat. He had the courage to fund Solidarity and other anti-communist movements before the fall of the USSR, as well.

He is also a convicted felon in France.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

Insider trading conviction

In 1988, he was asked to join a takeover attempt of the French bank Société Générale. He declined to participate in the bid but later bought a number of shares in the company. French authorities began an investigation in 1989, and in 2002 a French court ruled that it was insider trading, a felony conviction as defined under French securities laws, and fined him $2.3 million, which was the amount that he made using the insider information.

Punitive damages were not sought because of the delay in bringing the case to trial. Soros denied any wrongdoing and said news of the takeover was public knowledge.[30]

His insider trading conviction was upheld by the highest court in France on June 14, 2006.[31] In December, 2006 he appealed to the European Court of Human Rights, claiming that the 14-year delay in bringing the case to trial precluded a fair hearing.[32]

414 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:38:05am

re: #397 wozzablog

Fox is attacked for it’s abject hypocrisy - and not just by the left, the middle knows it is a joke too. Calling a “news” organisation out on being a shill which directly employs several past and potentially future candidates for president (all from one party) as “analysts” is fair game.

I believe WIlliam’s termination was justified by the terms of his contract with NPR - as fearmongering is not their business, and while he is in their employ his public comments reflect on them.

Just curious, what was the terms of his contract?

415 rwdflynavy  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:38:23am

re: #412 Obdicut

Did you understand this bit?

If you agree that Varek is ‘disparaging Catholics’ by saying that, then you agree that Williams was disparaging Muslims by saying what he did.

I do think Williams was disparaging Muslims and I’m beginning to think Varek likes to disparage Catholics…

416 laZardo  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:38:44am

And now, to lighten things up…

Best Essay Ever.

417 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:39:23am

re: #413 rwdflynavy

Yes. Insider trading. Great.

That has nothing to do with you accusing him of being a ‘raving moonbat’, after he spent years and years funding pro-Democracy movements in Eastern Europe, and still does.

418 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:40:19am

re: #415 rwdflynavy

I do think Williams was disparaging Muslims and I’m beginning to think Varek likes to disparage Catholics…

You’re missing his point entirely, given that he’s made it clear he thinks that statement would be rightly piled on if he was saying it in seriousness.

419 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:40:20am

re: #404 Dark_Falcon

I do not see his comments as “fearmongering”, and neither does David Frum.

Fair comment.

HOwever, i would say that adding to the consistent drumbeat of fear that is propounded against Muslims by saying he fears or is nervous of religiously dressed muslims in confined spaces - in the (and here we go again) “context” of the perpetual drumbeat - and given the forum he expressed those views in - one which relies on the fear based economy, i think we create grounds relatively easily.
The fact the view “may be common held” says more for the American psyche and base instincts than it does for regard for truth about the actual situation.
And what Williams is meant to do is “analyse” - not commentate they are two completely different fucntions. An analyst says “it’s an understandable feeling to be nervous after 9/11, but religiously dressed Muslims have not got a record in the western world of committing the attacks we are nervous of”. A commentator just saus “people dressed like muslims = i’m scared”.

420 rwdflynavy  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:40:35am

re: #417 Obdicut

Yes. Insider trading. Great.

That has nothing to do with you accusing him of being a ‘raving moonbat’, after he spent years and years funding pro-Democracy movements in Eastern Europe, and still does.

Just wanted to ensure it wasn’t all white-washing of Saint Soros.

421 rwdflynavy  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:42:07am

re: #418 Obdicut

You’re missing his point entirely, given that he’s made it clear he thinks that statement would be rightly piled on if he was saying it in seriousness.

I get his point. He has used that particular statement about Catholics on several occasions. Just sayin…

PS: I’m not Catholic.

422 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:42:43am

re: #420 rwdflynavy

Just wanted to ensure it wasn’t all white-washing of Saint Soros.

He’s not a saint by any means. I have no clue why you’d have any concerns about whitewashing after I already said that I dislike the way that he uses money in politics.

However, accusing someone who funded, and continues to fund, Pro-Democracy movements in Eastern Europe of being a “raving moonbat” is idiotic.

And people should really, really, really be aware of how much of the criticism of Soros stems from his Jewishness.

423 rwdflynavy  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:43:18am

re: #422 Obdicut

He’s not a saint by any means. I have no clue why you’d have any concerns about whitewashing after I already said that I dislike the way that he uses money in politics.

However, accusing someone who funded, and continues to fund, Pro-Democracy movements in Eastern Europe of being a “raving moonbat” is idiotic.

And people should really, really, really be aware of how much of the criticism of Soros stems from his Jewishness.

Got it. He’s a Jew.

424 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:43:40am

re: #423 rwdflynavy

Got it. He’s a Jew.

Got what, exactly?

425 rwdflynavy  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:43:58am

So he’s Jewish, is that right?
//

426 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:49:06am

re: #414 Walter L. Newton

Just curious, what was the terms of his contract?

The precise part of a standard NPR contract were posted over several threads in the last couple of days.

But the NPR statement is as follows, and they clearly seem to think he was off reservation -


“Tonight we gave Juan Williams notice that we are terminating his contract as a Senior News Analyst for NPR News.

“Juan has been a valuable contributor to NPR and public radio for many years and we did not make this decision lightly or without regret. However, his remarks on The O’Reilly Factor this past Monday were inconsistent with our editorial standards and practices, and undermined his credibility as a News Analyst with NPR.

“We regret these circumstances and thank Juan Williams for his many years of service to NPR and public radio.”

427 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:49:23am

re: #425 rwdflynavy

Dude.

I’m quite serious. A lot of the criticism of Soros stems from anti-Semitic groups, and the old “Jewish conspiracy” libel. Mandy inadvertently— whatever her faults, she was no anti-Semite— linked to an anti-Semitic diatribe against Soros. A lot of what is written about him stems from anti-Semitic sources.

I feel that that is important.

Warren Buffet gives lots of donations to the Democratic Party, to individual Democrats, to ‘leftist’ groups, and yet we almost never hear about his influence. It’s almost always Soros. And the irony of attacking him as a big ol’ lefty after his decades-long campaign against communism is just a little hard for me to take.

428 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:49:25am

This conversation can serve no purpose any more.

— HAL 9000

429 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:50:01am

re: #421 rwdflynavy

I get his point. He has used that particular statement about Catholics on several occasions. Just sayin…

PS: I’m not Catholic.

My mistake.
I routinely confuse Catholics and Christians into being the same.
My point was simple.
Christians are a majority.
Muslims are not.
Many find nothing wrong with what Juan said, yet would be deeply offended with what I said.
Those who do, need to reflect on why disparing on religion is ok and another isn’t.
That’s all. I don’t care for religion in general. Certainly not enough to hate it.

430 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:50:38am

re: #419 wozzablog

Fair comment.

HOwever, i would say that adding to the consistent drumbeat of fear that is propounded against Muslims by saying he fears or is nervous of religiously dressed muslims in confined spaces - in the (and here we go again) “context” of the perpetual drumbeat - and given the forum he expressed those views in - one which relies on the fear based economy, i think we create grounds relatively easily.
The fact the view “may be common held” says more for the American psyche and base instincts than it does for regard for truth about the actual situation.
And what Williams is meant to do is “analyse” - not commentate they are two completely different fucntions. An analyst says “it’s an understandable feeling to be nervous after 9/11, but religiously dressed Muslims have not got a record in the western world of committing the attacks we are nervous of”. A commentator just saus “people dressed like muslims = i’m scared”.

Then reprimand him, don’t fire him.

431 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:50:54am

re: #426 wozzablog

The precise part of a standard NPR contract were posted over several threads in the last couple of days.

But the NPR statement is as follows, and they clearly seem to think he was off reservation -

You mentioned his contract, I just thought that you may have had some idea of what part of his contract, in relation to this incident, was breeched… The NPR statement above doesn’t deal with any information about his contract.

I thought you knew, since you made the comment. My mistake.

432 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:52:03am

re: #430 Dark_Falcon

Have you read what he said about Michelle Obama?

433 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:52:12am

Geez, I need to learn to spell!

434 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:54:21am

WTH?
Chainsaws going…
BRB.

435 rwdflynavy  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:54:30am

re: #432 Obdicut

Have you read what he said about Michelle Obama?

Was it this?:

Michelle Obama: “For the First Time in My Adult Lifetime, I’m Really Proud of My Country”

436 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:54:58am

re: #432 Obdicut

Have you read what he said about Michelle Obama?

No, I have not.

437 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:55:07am

re: #414 Walter L. Newton

Just curious, what was the terms of his contract?

found it -

IV. Conflicts of interest

1.”Conducting ourselves in a manner that inspires confidence in us as independent and fair means avoiding actual and apparent conflicts of interest or engaging in outside activities, public comment or writing that calls into question our ability to report fairly on a subject.”

I would say that admitting to be scared of Muslims calls into question his abillity to analyse news fairly.

438 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:55:20am

re: #434 Varek Raith

WTH?
Chainsaws going…
BRB.

Redneck hunters… chainsaws are much more efficient.

439 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:55:28am

re: #431 Walter L. Newton

See 437.

440 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:55:53am

re: #435 rwdflynavy

No, it wasn’t.

He compared her to Stokey Carmichael, the militant black separatist who favored violent resistance, was mysognyistic in the extreme, an immigrant who exiled himself from America. More crudely, he said that she was “Stokey Carmichael in a dress”.

He never apologized to her for it, either.

441 rwdflynavy  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:56:37am

BBLL

442 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:56:56am

re: #439 wozzablog

See 437.

Thanks.

443 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:01:50am

re: #438 Walter L. Newton

Redneck hunters… chainsaws are much more efficient.

Heh.

Apparently the landlady sent someone over to cut the overgrowth on the trees in my yard.
I’ve been complaining about it since a severe storm knocked the top 20 feet of a tree into the front yard.
Typically, she doesn’t inform me that someone’s coming over, and he doesn’t knock on the door.

444 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:02:18am

re: #440 Obdicut

No, it wasn’t.

He compared her to Stokey Carmichael, the militant black separatist who favored violent resistance, was mysognyistic in the extreme, an immigrant who exiled himself from America. More crudely, he said that she was “Stokey Carmichael in a dress”.

He never apologized to her for it, either.

When did he say that?

445 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:02:40am

re: #443 Varek Raith

But, I called her and made sure everything was fine.
Sheesh.

446 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:03:16am

re: #430 Dark_Falcon

Then reprimand him, don’t fire him.

If it had been a one off regarding comments he made - yes. As Obdicut has been noting - this may well have been the straw on the camels back.

447 Jadespring  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:04:27am

I metre: #446 wozzablog

If it had been a one off regarding comments he made - yes. As Obdicut has been noting - this may well have been the straw on the camels back.

I thought there was statement that was released that said that it was basically the piece of straw. Long line of issues, or something like that.

448 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:04:58am

re: #444 Dark_Falcon

When did he say that?

Last year. He’s got a history of saying dumb shit.

I really don’t get why there is any argument over his dismissal at all. I wish more of the national media would actually hold their reporters to standards.

449 jaunte  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:05:17am

re: #444 Dark_Falcon

It was back in January 2009 on the O’Reilly show. Here’s some video at the link.
[Link: www.blogher.com…]

450 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:07:18am

Good grief…
He’s not even securing himself to the tree!
Where does my landlady find these fools!?
:/

451 darthstar  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:07:58am

Good morning Lacertae…what seems to be the general malfunction on this fine Saturday?

452 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:08:38am

re: #447 Jadespring

I met

I thought there was statement that was released that said that it was basically the piece of straw. Long line of issues, or something like that.

From the NPR Chief Executive…………..

He had several times in the past violated our news code of ethics with things that he had said on other people’s air.

453 jaunte  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:10:32am

re: #450 Varek Raith

Can you get a picture of him in action?

454 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:10:51am

re: #451 darthstar

Nice obscure lizard reference, dude!

455 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:13:57am

re: #448 Obdicut

Last year. He’s got a history of saying dumb shit.

I really don’t get why there is any argument over his dismissal at all. I wish more of the national media would actually hold their reporters to standards.

The problem is that his worst remark wasn’t the firing offense. The proclaimed firing offense was a remark that was much less problematic.

456 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:14:34am

Peace.

Laters all.

457 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:15:44am

re: #455 Dark_Falcon

The problem is that his worst remark wasn’t the firing offense. The proclaimed firing offense was a remark that was much less problematic.

No, that’s not ‘the problem’, since they didn’t say they fired him for that remark, but for his history of idiotic remarks and lack of professionalism.

You get that, right?

458 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:17:42am

re: #453 jaunte

Can you get a picture of him in action?

I guess not.
Seems like only one of the 7 trees will be taken care of.
The others, who knows?
:/
It’s a start, I suppose.

459 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:19:38am

re: #457 Obdicut

No, that’s not ‘the problem’, since they didn’t say they fired him for that remark, but for his history of idiotic remarks and lack of professionalism.

You get that, right?

No, I don’t. NPR’s action just seems out of line, and foolish to boot. Doesn’t matter if they’re right or wrong, they’ll be made into the villain. They should have ignored what Williams said.

460 jaunte  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:20:26am

re: #458 Varek Raith

Maybe he forgot to top up the gas tank.

461 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:21:13am

re: #459 Dark_Falcon

No, I don’t. NPR’s action just seems out of line, and foolish to boot. Doesn’t matter if they’re right or wrong, they’ll be made into the villain. They should have ignored what Williams said.

What about Rick Sanchez and Helen Thomas? Did their employers have the right to fire them?

462 bratwurst  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:22:06am

re: #444 Dark_Falcon

When did he say that?

463 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:22:37am

re: #459 Dark_Falcon

No, I don’t.

Do you mean, you deny that’s what they’ve said, or you don’t think it’s true?

NPR’s action just seems out of line, and foolish to boot.

So you think that news organizations have no right to hold journalists to any standards?

Doesn’t matter if they’re right or wrong, they’ll be made into the villain.

For the segment of the population that already dislikes NPR and mistakenly thinks it’s a ‘leftist’ organization, certainly. Amongst people who actually watch the video and consider the facts, not so much.

They should have ignored what Williams said.

Why do you think they are obliged to continue employing an independent contractor who violates their ethics rules?

464 Jadespring  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:25:07am

re: #451 darthstar

Good morning Lacertae…what seems to be the general malfunction on this fine Saturday?

Nothing. From where I sit things are looking great. Yesterday started with a few things up in the air and those ended up coming through positively by noon. Then in the evening they got even better. Long story short I’m starting to work on a big project with a local school and community group which I’d like to fold into a masters degree. They’re all totally into it and think it’s great. So great in fact that there is a good chance that I will potentially be able to get my tuition paid through the funding for the project. How totally cool is that?

465 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:26:25am

re: #464 Jadespring

That’s awesome.

466 Jadespring  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:27:49am

re: #465 Obdicut

That’s awesome.

Yes it is. I’m very excited. I would do it all anyways just on a volunteer basis but things just seem to be working out in ways that are better then I initially imagined.

467 Gus  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:28:17am

• Free speech! 1st Amendment rights!

• They shouldn’t have fired Juan Williams!

• Fire Keith Olbermann!

Film @ 11.

/

468 darthstar  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:29:06am

re: #459 Dark_Falcon

No, I don’t. NPR’s action just seems out of line, and foolish to boot. Doesn’t matter if they’re right or wrong, they’ll be made into the villain. They should have ignored what Williams said.

You should do what lots of other people are doing in the wake of this great scandal (at the request of Fox, Palin, Beck, etc…) Call and complain that you’re a longtime “viewer” and you won’t be watching them anymore.

469 jaunte  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:31:49am

re: #467 Gus 802

Watching Williams protesting (all the way to the $2 million payday). He has his sense of indignation tuned up to the Fox standard, even throwing in a little “have you no shame!”:

470 Gus  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:32:12am

Yeah, “but that’s different” right? NPR “get teh Federal funding!” Sixteen percent. I remember it wasn’t very long ago when Bill O’Reilly and others wanted to get Olbermann fired even to the point of harassing General Electric. People want Glenn Beck fired too and Bill O’Reilly, and Joy Behar. Then there was the calls to fire Rosie O’Donnell.

471 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:32:39am

re: #468 darthstar

You should do what lots of other people are doing in the wake of this great scandal (at the request of Fox, Palin, Beck, etc…) Call and complain that you’re a longtime “viewer” and you won’t be watching them anymore.

After iron floats. I’m not one for lying and I’d rather eat dogmeat than follow Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck.

472 Gus  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:33:10am

re: #469 jaunte

Watching Williams protesting (all the way to the $2 million payday). He has his sense of indignation tuned up to the Fox standard, even throwing in a little “have you no shame!”: [Link: mediamatters.org…]

That’s ironic. Bill O’Reilly accusing anyone of “character assassination” and “intolerance”. He’s the king of “character assassination” and “intolerance”.

473 darthstar  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:35:18am

re: #471 Dark_Falcon

After iron floats. I’m not one for lying and I’d rather eat dogmeat than follow Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck.


I do like you, DF…but sometimes you do sound an awful lot like this guy.

474 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:35:21am

re: #472 Gus 802

Yeah. But Williams didn’t wind up dead, unlike Tiller, who O’Reilly hounded and smeared for months.

O’Reilly has no self-knowledge. What a scumbag.

475 Gus  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:36:27am

NPR: Juan! You’re fired!

Fox News: Juan! Here’s a 2010 Ferrari “California” and 1.8 million dollars.

[snif]

/

476 Gus  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:36:52am

re: #474 Obdicut

Yeah. But Williams didn’t wind up dead, unlike Tiller, who O’Reilly hounded and smeared for months.

O’Reilly has no self-knowledge. What a scumbag.

Exactly. Thanks, I was going to bring Tiller up.

477 Gus  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:37:56am

So yeah. Now Juan can get himself one of these and have plenty of spare change:

Image: ferrari_california_01-4ba947385cf85.jpg

Screw him.

478 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:39:26am

Who wants to bet that, all in all, the vast majority of people currently (by no means only on LGF) passionately defending the “side” they’ve chosen in the Juan Williams vs. NPR debacle have never listened to a cumulative total of 10 minutes of NPR programming, and hadn’t heard of Juan Williams at all until this weekend?

479 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:40:18am

re: #478 negativ

Who wants to bet that, all in all, the vast majority of people currently (by no means only on LGF) passionately defending the “side” they’ve chosen in the Juan Williams vs. NPR debacle have never listened to a cumulative total of 10 minutes of NPR programming, and hadn’t heard of Juan Williams at all until this weekend?

Whoopi Goldberg defended him.

480 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:40:23am

re: #473 darthstar

I do like you, DF…but sometimes you do sound an awful lot like this guy.

Eh, could be worse. You could have had a picture of Animal. ;)

481 darthstar  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:41:32am

re: #474 Obdicut

Yeah. But Williams didn’t wind up dead, unlike Tiller, who O’Reilly hounded and smeared for months.

O’Reilly has no self-knowledge. What a scumbag.

Speaking of hounding…I wonder if Juan Williams approves of his employer stalking his former boss at NPR…

Ms. Schiller said she perceived a media “overreaction” to Mr. Williams’s firing, one that had even set off threats against her children. A camera crew from Fox News followed her from her home on Friday, she added.

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

482 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:41:35am

re: #480 Dark_Falcon

Eh, could be worse. You could have had a picture of Animal. ;)

That looks like me.

483 darthstar  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:41:55am

re: #480 Dark_Falcon

Eh, could be worse. You could have had a picture of Animal. ;)

I’m like Animal…and proud of it.

484 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:42:00am

re: #480 Dark_Falcon

Eh, could be worse. You could have had a picture of Animal. ;)

You’re all jerks.
Image: oscar50.jpg

485 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:42:33am

re: #479 Walter L. Newton

Whoopi Goldberg defended him.

I reiterate.

486 Gus  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:43:01am

Fire Andrea Mitchell! Eleventy!

Burp.

/

487 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:43:02am

re: #485 negativ

She also defended Roman Polanski.
So…
?

488 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:43:49am

re: #478 negativ

Well, NPR has a pretty damn big audience, somewhere over 30 million listeners weekly.

489 Gus  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:45:53am

re: #487 Varek Raith

She also defended Roman Polanski.
So…
?

She should have been fired for that!

/

490 Jadespring  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:48:07am

I never realized that Whoopi held so much power over people.

Interesting….

491 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:49:57am

re: #490 Jadespring

I never realized that Whoopi held so much power over people.

Interesting…

everyone on the left takes their marching orders from Whoopi……whether they know it or not. Apparently.

492 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:51:00am

re: #491 wozzablog

Whoopi Goldberg and Sean Penn basically run the DNC. Apparently.

493 Gus  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:51:06am

re: #490 Jadespring

I never realized that Whoopi held so much power over people.

Interesting…

Apparently she can be used as a double edged sword with regards to her comments on Juan Williams.

494 jaunte  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:51:14am

re: #491 wozzablog

Her big red hat has hypnotic powers.

495 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:51:21am

re: #490 Jadespring

I never realized that Whoopi held so much power over people.

Interesting…

What I do find interesting is Whoopi made a big stink about O’Reilly’s Muslim remarks a few weeks ago when he was on The View (she even walked off the set), yet turns around and supports William’s remarks (on the same show), which were in the least as wrongheaded as O’Reilly’s.

496 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:51:58am

re: #493 Gus 802

Apparently she can be used as a double edged sword with regards to her comments on Juan Williams.

No… I question her judgement.

497 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:52:14am

re: #495 Walter L. Newton

Are there other celebrities you’re fascinated with, or is Whoopi special for some reason?

498 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:52:51am

To hell with this. New Vegas awaits.

Image: FalloutNewVegas.jpg

499 Jadespring  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:54:08am

re: #493 Gus 802

Apparently she can be used as a double edged sword with regards to her comments on Juan Williams.

It seems so, which indicates that for some that she hold some sort of power or that it means something. Still trying to figure that part out. Why is Whoopi such a big deal or really any deal at all?

500 Gus  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:54:11am

re: #496 Walter L. Newton

No… I question her judgement.

The way I see it. Everyone had a right to do or say what they did. That includes ol’ Whoopi, Williams, and O’Reilly, right down to NPR having the right to fire Williams.

501 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:56:29am

re: #497 Obdicut

The whole selective indignance interests me.

Indignance is not a word. But it should be one.

502 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:56:47am

re: #501 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The whole selective indignance interests me.

Indignance is not a word. But it should be one.

Who’s selective indignance?

503 Gus  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:57:18am

re: #499 Jadespring

It seems so, which indicates that for some that she hold some sort of power or that it means something. Still trying to figure that part out. Why is Whoopi such a big deal or really any deal at all?

I don’t know if she even is at this point. She made some news with her comments on The View regarding Williams. I guess now it’s morphed into something else: she defended Williams but walked out on O’Reilly, etc. I don’t know but I still think O’Reilly is a bigger douche than Williams ever was.

504 Jadespring  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:57:21am

re: #502 Obdicut

Who’s selective indignance?

Whoopi’s!

505 jaunte  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:57:44am

re: #500 Gus 802

One of the underlying arguments I’m seeing in the online comments about the Williams story is that managers of government-funded entities shouldn’t have the right to fire at will, (which isn’t going to help cut government spending any).

506 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:57:53am

re: #498 negativ

To hell with this. New Vegas awaits.

Image: FalloutNewVegas.jpg

I’m really enjoying it although aspect of the game are more complicated than I prefer. I can’t resist playing the game as a sociopath. I bludgeoned the entire town of goodsprings with a baseball bat last night. Big fun

507 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:59:06am

re: #505 jaunte

Those lazy government workers, with their safe-for-ever jobs, they cost this country a fortune! And those asshole managers of them, firing them for any reason, it’s not right!

/Wingnut logic.

508 Gus  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 9:59:33am

re: #505 jaunte

One of the underlying arguments I’m seeing in the online comments about the Williams story is that managers of government-funded entities shouldn’t have the right to fire at will, (which isn’t going to help cut government spending any).

I know. That’s the little fallback. The 16 percent funding. In this case the Williams firing is just being used as an excuse to de-fund NPR which has been a long standing right wing cause.

509 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:01:44am

re: #508 Gus 802

the Williams firing is just being used as an excuse to de-fund NPR which has been a long standing right wing cause.

Nail on the head.

510 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:01:58am

re: #506 Killgore Trout

Have you ever played any of the other Fallout games?
/Speaking of Fallout, the end of the world is in 67 years.

511 Jadespring  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:02:25am

re: #503 Gus 802

I don’t know if she even is at this point. She made some news with her comments on The View regarding Williams. I guess now it’s morphed into something else: she defended Williams but walked out on O’Reilly, etc. I don’t know but I still think O’Reilly is a bigger douche than Williams ever was.

I guess this goes to my questioning. Why was it even news enough to make the news in the first place. Up here (Canada) the whole O’Reily interview incident made the national news a few headlines in. I had the same sort of questions. Um why? I guess it’s some sort of comment on how pop culture is viewed by the masses or something or perhaps how a supposed big ‘news’ stories makes it’s rounds through mass media.

I just find it quite bizzare when I really think about it.

512 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:02:46am

re: #508 Gus 802

And of course, that’ll mostly mean that the stations in rural areas are the ones that have to shut down.

What amazing disservice the GOP does is constituents. They’re just so damn good at it.

Well, they practice.

513 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:04:13am

re: #510 Varek Raith

Have you ever played any of the other Fallout games?
/Speaking of Fallout, the end of the world is in 67 years.

No, I’ve never played the Fallout games before so I’m a little lost on how the system works. I’m figuring it out slowly but there is a learning curve.

514 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:04:31am

Oops… almost burned stuff in the pressure cooker…

515 Winny Spencer  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:06:05am

re: #506 Killgore Trout

Oh god, spoilers!

516 Gus  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:06:14am

re: #511 Jadespring

I guess this goes to my questioning. Why was it even news enough to make the news in the first place. Up here (Canada) the whole O’Reily interview incident made the national news a few headlines in. I had the same sort of questions. Um why? I guess it’s some sort of comment on how pop culture is viewed by the masses or something or perhaps how a supposed big ‘news’ stories makes it’s rounds through mass media.

I just find it quite bizzare when I really think about it.

I don’t think it was really that big a deal. For one, the right in the USA already hates The View regardless — short of Elisabeth Hasselbeck whom they do on occasion throw under the bus. Bill O’Reilly didn’t really care since it just helped add to his publicity (which translates into dollars). O’Reilly has interviewed Goldberg on his shows in the past and has given her a rough time.

517 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:07:58am

re: #515 Winny Spencer

Oh god, spoilers!

I blew up Megaton in Fallout 3.
:P
Hey!
Anyone dumb enough to build a town around an atomic bomb deserves what’s coming to them!
;)

518 Gus  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:08:40am

re: #512 Obdicut

And of course, that’ll mostly mean that the stations in rural areas are the ones that have to shut down.

What amazing disservice the GOP does is constituents. They’re just so damn good at it.

Well, they practice.

Defunding NPR is the wingnut version of the Fairness Doctrine.

//

519 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:08:53am

re: #1 darthstar

Headline of the day: Seven Inches is Enough, RIM tells Jobs

This HOD went over well on my FB page. Of course, only the devout geeks replied.

520 darthstar  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:09:13am

Fall out, Doom, Halo…I’m still learning Pong.

521 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:09:47am

re: #516 Gus 802

I don’t think it was really that big a deal. For one, the right in the USA already hates The View regardless — short of Elisabeth Hasselbeck whom they do on occasion throw under the bus. Bill O’Reilly didn’t really care since it just helped add to his publicity (which translates into dollars). O’Reilly has interviewed Goldberg on his shows in the past and has given her a rough time.

True. He and Whoopi seem to be on decent terms overall, and their conflicts don’t actually hurt them since conflict = ratings. The entertainment industry is a place of inverted values at times.

522 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:10:01am

re: #501 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The whole selective indignance interests me.

Indignance is not a word. But it should be one.

Run the word by Sarah Palin via Twitter. It could become a word.

523 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:10:23am

re: #515 Winny Spencer

It’s not a spoiler. I don’t think you’re even supposed to do that. The reason I like the game so far is that you can do pretty much anything even if it’s not recommended or part of a mission.
I quess I find myself trying to “break” the game. Can I fuck around so much that the game becomes stuck or unplayable? I don’t know but so far it’s amazingly elastic.

524 jaunte  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:10:25am

re: #507 Obdicut

Those lazy government workers, with their safe-for-ever jobs, they cost this country a fortune! And those asshole managers of them, firing them for any reason, it’s not right!

/Wingnut logic.

Even stranger:
“Those lazy independent contractors, with their safe-for-ever contracts, they cost this country a fortune! And those asshole managers of them, not guaranteeing them a continued spot at the trough, it’s not right!”

525 Jadespring  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:10:45am

re: #495 Walter L. Newton

What I do find interesting is Whoopi made a big stink about O’Reilly’s Muslim remarks a few weeks ago when he was on The View (she even walked off the set), yet turns around and supports William’s remarks (on the same show), which were in the least as wrongheaded as O’Reilly’s.

Yes that’s fine but why is it interesting? And why is it interesting enough to keep bringing her up in discussions/arguments about other issues?

I mean if it wasn’t made part of the ‘news’ by people who filter the happenings in the world into the ‘new’ we consume would it still be as interesting? Is it news (and interesting) because it’s actually means something important to overall society or has it become more interesting because it made the ‘news’ to people beyond who watch the show.

526 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:11:42am

re: #525 Jadespring

Yes that’s fine but why is it interesting? And why is it interesting enough to keep bringing her up in discussions/arguments about other issues?

I mean if it wasn’t made part of the ‘news’ by people who filter the happenings in the world into the ‘new’ we consume would it still be as interesting? Is it news (and interesting) because it’s actually means something important to overall society or has it become more interesting because it made the ‘news’ to people beyond who watch the show.

Ok… it’s not interesting.

527 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:11:51am

re: #523 Killgore Trout

It’s not a spoiler. I don’t think you’re even supposed to do that. The reason I like the game so far is that you can do pretty much anything even if it’s not recommended or part of a mission.
I quess I find myself trying to “break” the game. Can I fuck around so much that the game becomes stuck or unplayable? I don’t know but so far it’s amazingly elastic.

No, quest important people will be invincible.
Now, in Morrowind, you can break the main quest 5 minutes after starting the game if you want.
XD

528 Jadespring  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:13:50am

Hmm I really need to get this game.

I’m not sure I can wait until Christmas. :)

529 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:14:16am

re: #524 jaunte

Even stranger:
“Those lazy independent contractors, with their safe-for-ever contracts, they cost this country a fortune! And those asshole managers of them, not guaranteeing them a continued spot at the trough, it’s not right!”

It’s simple, really: The person running his mouth favors two things that conflict at times. TV personalities don’t try to resolve such conflicts of logic, since trying to do so bores the audience and inevitably gores someone’s sacred cow. So they just spout off without regard to logic or coherent policy.

530 Gus  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:15:39am

re: #529 Dark_Falcon

It’s simple, really: The person running his mouth favors two things that conflict at times. TV personalities don’t try to resolve such conflicts of logic, since trying to do so bores the audience and inevitably gores someone’s sacred cow. So they just spout off without regard to logic or coherent policy.

Remember the O’Donnell-Trump feud?

531 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:16:09am

re: #506 Killgore Trout

I’m really enjoying it although aspect of the game are more complicated than I prefer. I can’t resist playing the game as a sociopath. I bludgeoned the entire town of goodsprings with a baseball bat last night. Big fun

In games where I get to make the choice, I usually save my psychopathic rampages for the 2nd or 3rd playthrough. First playthroughs are always plagued with OCD hand-wringing over how many starting points to put into which skills, in order to obtain a subjectively imperceptible but statistically significant 2% increase in critical hits (or similar).

532 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:16:33am

re: #527 Varek Raith

No, quest important people will be invincible.
Now, in Morrowind, you can break the main quest 5 minutes after starting the game if you want.
XD

Moral of the story: If you let a Sith or vampire into your questing party, their need to do evil will mess up your quest.

BBL, lunch

533 Jadespring  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:17:46am

Hmm. I’m still in my PJ’s. Need to get dressed and get outside.

I have to do some herding training with my pup.

534 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:18:57am

Remember, Fox News hates Fred Rogers.

535 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:20:44am

re: #527 Varek Raith

No, quest important people will be invincible.
Now, in Morrowind, you can break the main quest 5 minutes after starting the game if you want.
XD

Ok, I wondered about that because the chick in the beginning that teaches you shoot and craft items can die or be killed before she teaches you anything. I had to restart the game a few times because I kept killer her and then realized that I still didn’t understand the crafting elements of the game.
I wonder if I can kill the shopkeeper in Goodsprings. I haven’t tried that yet.

536 Gus  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:21:03am

re: #534 negativ

Remember, Fox News hates Fred Rogers.

[Video]

PBS!

Socialism!

/

537 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:21:08am

Drive-by note:

In Sam & Max, sometimes random psychopathic behavior is the way to win.

538 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:22:14am

re: #531 negativ

In games where I get to make the choice, I usually save my psychopathic rampages for the 2nd or 3rd playthrough. First playthroughs are always plagued with OCD hand-wringing over how many starting points to put into which skills, in order to obtain a subjectively imperceptible but statistically significant 2% increase in critical hits (or similar).

Yeah, I’m a little worried how much of the story I’m going to miss by killing everyone I meet. I suspect the game is worthy of a couple replays just to see the different choices to be made and the consequences.

539 darthstar  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:22:27am

re: #530 Gus 802

Remember the O’Donnell-Trump feud?

That’s Lawrence…the real O’Donnell-Trump feud will be on next season’s Apprentice show.

540 Gus  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:23:45am

By the way. That knuckledragger DeMint also included PBS in his recent press release.

DeMint: Time to End Taxpayer Funding of NPR, PBS

541 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:24:39am

OT -

Tomorrow morning I am tagging along with my girlfriend to Orlando, a computer programmers conference for a point of sale product that she supports at her job. The conference is at a hotel on the Disney property. I’m going to use the couple of days to see something at Disney, never been to any Disney park.

We will be going to Epcot on Tuesday before we leave, I will be doing a day alone on Monday at the Magic Kingdom park, while my girlfriend is at the conference.

If you only had enough time to ride one attraction at the Magic Kingdom park, which one would it be?

542 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:25:06am

Another game I’m looking forward to.


:)
543 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:25:06am

re: #533 Jadespring

Hmm. I’m still in my PJ’s. Need to get dressed and get outside.

I have to do some herding training with my pup.

Are you insane? The entire point of Saturday is to screw around with your dog while wearing PJs. Getting all dolled up detracts from it.

544 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:26:04am

re: #540 Gus 802

By the way. That knuckledragger DeMint also included PBS in his recent press release.

DeMint: Time to End Taxpayer Funding of NPR, PBS

This is going to play well to the wingnuts. NPR may have just given the GOP and added boost just before the elections. Perhaps this was NPR’s October surprise?

545 jaunte  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:26:27am

re: #540 Gus 802

“Once again we find the only free speech liberals support is the speech with which they agree.”


I guess he hates Car Talk.

546 webevintage  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:26:33am

re: #541 Walter L. Newton

If you only had enough time to ride one attraction at the Magic Kingdom park, which one would it be?

The Flying Dumbo ride.
No reason except that is what I think of when I think of rides at Disney.

547 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:26:36am

re: #544 Walter L. Newton

This is going to play well to the wingnuts. NPR may have just given the GOP and added boost just before the elections. Perhaps this was NPR’s October surprise?

IT’S A CONSPIRACY I TELLS YA

548 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:26:47am

re: #543 negativ

Are you insane? The entire point of Saturday is to screw around with your dog while wearing PJs. Getting all dolled up detracts from it.

I’d rather screw around with… oh, never mind… maybe that’s not what you meant.

549 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:27:04am

re: #540 Gus 802

By the way. That knuckledragger DeMint also included PBS in his recent press release.

DeMint: Time to End Taxpayer Funding of NPR, PBS

It’s going to be very interesting to see what the Republican congress ends up doing. I suspect lots of votes to defund NPR, outlaw Tides, arrest George Soros, impeach Obama and other silly crap. I just can’t imagine them using their time constructively to help the country.

550 Gus  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:27:53am

re: #544 Walter L. Newton

This is going to play well to the wingnuts. NPR may have just given the GOP and added boost just before the elections. Perhaps this was NPR’s October surprise?

I heard the argument made already that NPR “handed the GOP” an excuse to defund NPR. I only now heard it included PBS — yet again. I don’t think it’s going to amount to much let alone an “October surprise”.

551 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:28:25am

re: #546 webevintage

The Flying Dumbo ride.
No reason except that is what I think of when I think of rides at Disney.

Thanks for the suggestion. Considering I have limited time at the park, and the tickets are 82 dollars a person, I think I will attempt to find some attraction that’s a little closer to being a thrill. Although maybe riding a plastic elephant is a thrill for some people.

552 Obdicut  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:28:41am

re: #549 Killgore Trout

I expect they’ll spend a lot of time to haul scientists in to grill them on whether they’ve ever used grant money to buy a bran muffin. And to denounce them as frauds.

553 webevintage  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:29:21am

re: #540 Gus 802

By the way. That knuckledragger DeMint also included PBS in his recent press release.

DeMint: Time to End Taxpayer Funding of NPR, PBS

All of this over one asshole getting let go per the terms of him contract….
I’d like someone to ask Juan Williams if he thinks PBS should lose their funding.

554 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:29:27am

re: #550 Gus 802

I heard the argument made already that NPR “handed the GOP” an excuse to defund NPR. I only now heard it included PBS — yet again. I don’t think it’s going to amount to much let alone an “October surprise”.

Gus… it was humor… I know.. little… but it was meant to be a bit over the top… geeeesssshhhhh…

555 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:30:19am

re: #544 Walter L. Newton

This is going to play well to the wingnuts. NPR may have just given the GOP and added boost just before the elections. Perhaps this was NPR’s October surprise?

In the long run this really screws Republicans. Imagine what’s going to happen in the Presidential debates. Sarah Palin is going to have to answer the question “should Muslims be allowed in airports?” or something similar.

556 webevintage  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:30:33am

re: #551 Walter L. Newton

Thanks for the suggestion. Considering I have limited time at the park, and the tickets are 82 dollars a person, I think I will attempt to find some attraction that’s a little closer to being a thrill. Although maybe riding a plastic elephant is a thrill for some people.

It’s about all I can handle some days….

557 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:31:28am

re: #550 Gus 802

re: #555 Killgore Trout

Both of you… never mind… bum attempt at humor… my bad.

558 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:31:56am

re: #540 Gus 802

By the way. That knuckledragger DeMint also included PBS in his recent press release.

DeMint: Time to End Taxpayer Funding of NPR, PBS

Picking on PBS is a favorite past time of hard-line conservatives. I vaguely remember similar calls for defunding way back in the early 1980s. The knuckle-draggers take great offense that an actual channel exists that in essence, contradicts their mindset and agenda.

559 Gus  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:32:05am

re: #554 Walter L. Newton

Gus… it was humor… I know.. little… but it was meant to be a bit over the top… geeessshhh…

I realize that. But other people, like DeMint, do take it seriously.

560 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:33:04am

*Probably should have used station instead of channel. Anyway.

561 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:33:31am

re: #555 Killgore Trout

In the long run this really screws Republicans. Imagine what’s going to happen in the Presidential debates. Sarah Palin is going to have to answer the question “should Muslims be allowed in airports?” or something similar.

On the other hand… to answer your Palin part of your comment, yes, she could be asked that question… and considering the mood of the country, unfortunately her answer may find a lot of support.

562 Gus  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:33:35am

re: #558 eclectic infidel

Picking on PBS is a favorite past time of hard-line conservatives. I vaguely remember similar calls for defunding way back in the early 1980s. The knuckle-draggers take great offense that an actual channel exists that in essence, contradicts their mindset and agenda.

Yep. It’s like we’ve taken a ride in a time machine. Calls to defund PBS and Phyllis Schlafly still has a microphone! All we need now is the ghost of Jerry Falwell!

563 jaunte  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:34:05am

re: #558 eclectic infidel

JIm DeMint’s photo in front of the SC flag makes him looks like he has Islam on his mind.
[Link: demint.senate.gov…]

564 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:34:41am

re: #559 Gus 802

I realize that. But other people, like DeMint, do take it seriously.

Of course they do… and they are going to get a lot of traction from it… it’s going to help… it’s not going to hurt… unfortunately.

565 Gus  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:38:27am

re: #564 Walter L. Newton

Of course they do… and they are going to get a lot of traction from it… it’s going to help… it’s not going to hurt… unfortunately.

Maybe. But there isn’t much time left before election day. It may pop up as an election issue in the ending days but I doubt it will sway any votes. Everything will focus on these last two weeks. By the time election day comes all of this will have blown over. However, it may be a sign of things to come as KT indicated.

566 rwdflynavy  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:44:36am

re: #564 Walter L. Newton

Walter,

Regarding your trip to Orlando. If you want cool rides, you might consider Islands of Adventure instead. I thought the coasters and such were better than the Magic Kingdom. MK is really for kids in my opinion. Universal is the more “adult” park.

YMMV

567 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:44:58am

re: #538 Killgore Trout

Yeah, I’m a little worried how much of the story I’m going to miss by killing everyone I meet. I suspect the game is worthy of a couple replays just to see the different choices to be made and the consequences.

The thing I like so much about Fallout 3 and NV is that you’re only given a generalized idea of why the world is the way it is. There’s so much room for your imagination to fill in the blanks. You start out in a world that is definitely intended to be a version of the US, where the unthinkable has happened. Everyone is at the throats of the people over the valley a half a mile away, and you can turn on the radio and listen to Cole Porter sing “Anything Goes”:

as you crawl along the irradiated ruins of grocery stores and schoolhouses.

568 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:45:55am

re: #567 negativ

The thing I like so much about Fallout 3 and NV is that you’re only given a generalized idea of why the world is the way it is. There’s so much room for your imagination to fill in the blanks. You start out in a world that is definitely intended to be a version of the US, where the unthinkable has happened. Everyone is at the throats of the people over the valley a half a mile away, and you can turn on the radio and listen to Cole Porter sing “Anything Goes”:

[Video]

as you crawl along the irradiated ruins of grocery stores and schoolhouses.

it’s the aftermath of the Obama presidency………..

569 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:46:42am

re: #566 rwdflynavy

Walter,

Regarding your trip to Orlando. If you want cool rides, you might consider Islands of Adventure instead. I thought the coasters and such were better than the Magic Kingdom. MK is really for kids in my opinion. Universal is the more “adult” park.

YMMV

Are they near by the Disney park? We are staying in a hotel right on the Disney property and I don’t have transportation (or tons of money for transportation)… are these parks accessible from Disney by some shuttles or something?

570 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:47:23am

re: #567 negativ

The music and atmosphere as great. I imagine some people might think the graphics aren’t flashy enough but they’re fine for me. I just notice my Fallout disc came with a little players manual. I’ll do some reading before I fire up the game again.

571 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:48:18am

re: #541 Walter L. Newton

“It’s a Small World” if you want an awful tune to run through your head for eternity.

Disney, IIRC doesn’t have many adult rides.

Rockin’ Roller Coaster and Tower of Terror were pretty cool.

572 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:49:08am

re: #571 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Both rides will involve a generous wait.

573 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:50:44am

re: #571 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

“It’s a Small World” if you want an awful tune to run through your head for eternity.

Disney, IIRC doesn’t have many adult rides.

Rockin’ Roller Coaster and Tower of Terror were pretty cool.

That attraction was originally at the New York Worlds Fair in 1964 (63?), then moved to Disney… it was sponsored by Pepsi I think… I stood in line for an hour and a half… and that tune has stuck with me since then.

Bleeck

574 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:51:43am

Regarding Disney… I’ve always thought that Disney could make a gazillion dollars if they would open a “Disney Extreme” in Orlando.

Huge coasters, fast, thrill rides…

So the teenagers would want to go too…

575 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:51:46am

I was going to say—I’m looking forward to the day I can go some place like Disney World and see what I want to see.

I would go to the Harry Potter theme park in Universal Studios, myself.

576 jaunte  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:52:43am

re: #549 Killgore Trout

It’s going to be very interesting to see what the Republican congress ends up doing. I suspect lots of votes to defund NPR, outlaw Tides, arrest George Soros, impeach Obama and other silly crap. I just can’t imagine them using their time constructively to help the country.

Jim DeMint on the issues silly crap:
- Ban gay teachers
- Ban gay adoption
- Protect marriage from gays by amending the Constitution
- Protect our flag by amending the Constitution
- Deny jurisdiction to courts that won’t protect the Pledge of Allegiance
[Link: www.ontheissues.org…]

577 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:53:54am

re: #563 jaunte

JIm DeMint’s photo in front of the SC flag makes him looks like he has Islam on his mind.
[Link: demint.senate.gov…]

Heck, I didn’t even notice it first time around. That said…out of all the shapes available, how on Earth did that one make the cut? I mean, the recent batch of bat guano crazy Republicans seem to be rabidly spooked by anything remotely resembling that of Islam.

578 darthstar  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:54:57am

re: #569 Walter L. Newton

Are they near by the Disney park? We are staying in a hotel right on the Disney property and I don’t have transportation (or tons of money for transportation)… are these parks accessible from Disney by some shuttles or something?

Fuck it, go to Disney, have fun. It’s a vacation. And no matter what FBV says, “It’s a Small World” is a great song to have stuck in your head.

579 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:55:47am

re: #574 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Regarding Disney… I’ve always thought that Disney could make a gazillion dollars if they would open a “Disney Extreme” in Orlando.

Huge coasters, fast, thrill rides…

So the teenagers would want to go too…

Ok… I just did a little Google-fu, looks like the parks are not close to each other to start with, I have no rented transportation for the 3 days, and I’m financially limited to probably staying on the Disney property and make use of the shuttles to Disney attractions…

That’s fine… since I’ve never been to a Disney park, I guess being there is better than not being there… I’ll have fun.

580 jaunte  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:56:16am

re: #577 eclectic infidel

Looks like the first SC tax protest banner was even more ‘Islamic”:

Components of the current state flag were first seen in 1765, on a banner carried by South Carolina protesters of the Stamp Act. The banner that the protesters hoisted displayed three white crescents on a blue background.
[Link: www.netstate.com…]
581 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:56:36am

some of the best indian food in london awaits.

‘laters gators.

582 Jadespring  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:57:00am

re: #571 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

“It’s a Small World” if you want an awful tune to run through your head for eternity.

I really don’t like you right now….. ;)

583 darthstar  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:57:10am

re: #581 wozzablog

some of the best indian food in london awaits.

‘laters gators.

London does have some good Indian food.

584 Wozza Matter?  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:57:29am

re: #583 darthstar

nom nom nom nom

585 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:57:58am

re: #578 darthstar

Fuck it, go to Disney, have fun. It’s a vacation. And no matter what FBV says, “It’s a Small World” is a great song to have stuck in your head.

That’s what I intend to do. Monday I’m splitting for the 82 dollar ticket for the Magic Kingdom, and Tuesday, we only have about 6 hours… but the girlfriend insists on purchasing 164 dollars worth of tickets (2) to spend some time at Epcot.

That’s the plan.

586 Gus  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 10:58:33am

Pug named ‘Kook’ wakes owner, saves residents from fire

DENVER - The manager of an apartment building is crediting his dog with saving residents from an early morning fire, which badly damaged the building.

The pug, named Kook, woke Patrick Vigil up at 4 a.m., alerting him to the smoke which was filling his apartment.

“Yes, Kook, he was going crazy because they have that extra sense, evidently,” Vigil said. “And we thought he had to go to use the bathroom but it was kind of early but he needed to get out and he let us know that there was something-something wrong in the apartment.”

Image: 20101022__20101023_B02_CD23DENFIRE~p1.JPG

587 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 11:01:28am

re: #570 Killgore Trout

The music and atmosphere as great. I imagine some people might think the graphics aren’t flashy enough but they’re fine for me. I just notice my Fallout disc came with a little players manual. I’ll do some reading before I fire up the game again.



Here’s a timeline of events in the Fallout Universe, in case you’re curious.

588 Jadespring  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 11:02:21am

It’s a world of laughter and a world of tears,
It’s a world of hope and a world of fears,
There’s so much that we share,
That it’s time were aware,
It’s a small world after to all.

It’s a small world after all,
It’s a small world after all,
It’s a small world after all,
It’s a small, small world.

There is just one moon and one golden sun,
And smile means friendship to everyone.
Though the mountains divide and the oceans are wide,
It’s a small world after all.

It’s a small world after all,
It’s a small world after all,
It’s a small world after all,
It’s a small, small world.

589 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 11:03:02am

re: #570 Killgore Trout

The music and atmosphere as great. I imagine some people might think the graphics aren’t flashy enough but they’re fine for me. I just notice my Fallout disc came with a little players manual. I’ll do some reading before I fire up the game again.

Why it’s Still Not Cool to Admit You’re a Gamer

Scroll down to #2.

590 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 11:10:48am

re: #578 darthstar

Fuck it, go to Disney, have fun. It’s a vacation. And no matter what FBV says, “It’s a Small World” is a great song to have stuck in your head.

Especially if you are suffering from extreme psychosis.

591 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 11:12:12am

re: #588 Jadespring

SMALL WORLD! SMALL WORLD!
-Robin Harris; BeBe’s kids.

592 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 11:12:56am

re: #591 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

SMALL WORLD! SMALL WORLD!
-Robin Harris; BeBe’s kids.

HAHAHA, I remember that!
XD

593 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 11:13:16am

re: #588 Jadespring

It’s a world of laughter and a world of tears,
It’s a world of hope and a world of fears,
There’s so much that we share,
That it’s time were aware,
It’s a small world after to all.

It’s a small world after all,
It’s a small world after all,
It’s a small world after all,
It’s a small, small world.

There is just one moon and one golden sun,
And smile means friendship to everyone.
Though the mountains divide and the oceans are wide,
It’s a small world after all.

It’s a small world after all,
It’s a small world after all,
It’s a small world after all,
It’s a small, small world.

(repeat ad-nauseam)

594 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 11:14:18am

re: #593 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

(repeat ad-nauseam)

This is why napalm was invented.

595 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 11:15:00am

re: #594 negativ

This is why napalm was invented.

Experimental MIRV+Mini Nukes=Calming Effect.
;)

596 Jadespring  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 11:15:05am

re: #593 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

(repeat ad-nauseam)

I know. It’s just going over and over and over now. :)

The scary thing is I wrote that out from memory. It’s one of those things that I didn’t realize was stored in my brain until it was triggered.

Durn it you! :)

597 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 11:16:24am

re: #596 Jadespring

I know. It’s just going over and over and over now. :)

The scary thing is I wrote that out from memory. It’s one of those things that I didn’t realize was stored in my brain until it was triggered.

Durn it you! :)

Lobotomy should fix ya right up!
/

598 Jadespring  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 11:17:16am

Anyways gotta go rescue someone with car trouble.

The car decided to leak oil all over the road.

Super Jade to the rescue!


See yah all laters.

599 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 11:18:56am

re: #596 Jadespring

Seriously? Remembering all of the words is better than what I remember.

ahem…

it’s a small world after all; it’s a small world after all; it’s a small world after all; it’s a small, small world.

deep breath…

it’s a small world after all; it’s a small world after all; it’s a small world after all; it’s a small, small world.

Breathe again…

it’s a small world after all; it’s a small world after all; it’s a small world after all; it’s a small, small world.


see my point?

600 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 11:19:56am

re: #599 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

MAKE IT STOP!

601 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 11:24:35am

re: #479 Walter L. Newton

Whoopi Goldberg defended him.

Whoopi Goldberg’s judgement (see: Polanski) is a little suspect by me. But she has every right to defend him, although I doubt NPR will listen to her.

602 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 11:25:31am

re: #495 Walter L. Newton

What I do find interesting is Whoopi made a big stink about O’Reilly’s Muslim remarks a few weeks ago when he was on The View (she even walked off the set), yet turns around and supports William’s remarks (on the same show), which were in the least as wrongheaded as O’Reilly’s.

I don’t think Whoopi is that big or consistent an intellectual force.

603 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 11:26:03am

re: #602 SanFranciscoZionist

Farce?

604 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 11:26:07am

re: #588 Jadespring

That’s the vile song that wouldn’t stop playing in my head after a visit there way back when with early college friends. We dropped a couple of tabs each and then went on that ride. BAD IDEA.

605 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 11:29:00am

re: #577 eclectic infidel

Heck, I didn’t even notice it first time around. That said…out of all the shapes available, how on Earth did that one make the cut? I mean, the recent batch of bat guano crazy Republicans seem to be rabidly spooked by anything remotely resembling that of Islam.

State flag.

606 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 11:37:30am

re: #408 negativ

As you probably know, PBS is not NPR is not APM is not PRI. All the various public broadcasting entities are separate production and distribution organizations with distinct missions, and each competes with the other for programming slots on public radio stations.

Many PBS TV stations have radio affiliates (sister stations, if you will) that are NPR affiliates, so I see PBS and NPR as very similar entities.

607 Eclectic Infidel  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 12:07:26pm

re: #605 SanFranciscoZionist

State flag.

Wow. I didn’t know Islam had such an influence from so long ago. Sharron Angle must be right!

608 ClaudeMonet  Sat, Oct 23, 2010 8:51:41pm

re: #594 negativ

This is why napalm was invented.

I love the smell of napalm in the morning. It reminds me of…victory.


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