Pamela Geller Spews Hatred at Jewish Week

Wingnuts • Views: 26,841

New York’s The Jewish Week includes Pamela “Shrieking Harpy” Geller in their list of Seven Who Made A Difference In 2010, and not in a good way.

Pamela Geller, by contrast, has been described as one of the most “outraged and outrageous” personalities influencing public policy in the U.S.

Her website, Atlas Shrugs, portrayed Kagan in a Nazi helmet; she has written a book about the dangers of Obama’s presidency, and has called for removing the Dome of the Rock from the Temple Mount in the Old City of Jerusalem.

But Geller, 52, a Manhattan Jewish day school mom, is best known as one of the strongest public critics of Islam, asserting that it is prone to violence and hate, and for galvanizing opposition to Park51, the planned site of an Islamic center and mosque near Ground Zero.

Geller is credited, or blamed, for making the center a national and international issue this year. She was hailed by supporters as prophetic for warning of the dangers of Islam, and attacked by critics as strident and abusive in seeing no distinction between the Muslim religion and its most militant adherents.

Before walking out in anger during a Jewish Week interview this summer, she asserted: “There’s no gray area with me.”

Geller responds, of course; anyone who criticizes her non-stop bigotry and support for evil people should expect a blast of her illiterate venom, and if they’re Jewish they’re in for some special hatred:

Another leftwing Jewish newspaper doing the Jewicidal jig. What an embarassment [sic] these sad rags are to proud Jews.

And she has an explanation for posting the picture of Elena Kagan as a Nazi:

Actually, the photoshop was Kagan as Colonel Klink.

Jump to bottom

145 comments
1 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:41:09am

What an embarrassment this Geller thing is to proud Jews (like me)

2 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:41:59am

re: #1 Alouette

I try not to be embarrassed by stupid Christians. Don't be too hard on yourself.

3 Henchman Ghazi-808  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:43:43am

She's an embarrassment to all civilized peoples. At the first faltering of civilization she would be running Barter Town.

4 jaunte  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:44:00am

Kagan and Geller in the same paragraph; what a contrast.

5 theheat  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:44:16am
Another leftwing Jewish newspaper doing the Jewicidal jig. What an embarassment [sic] these sad rags are to proud Jews.

This woman is completely blinded by her hate. Her mind is like a loaded gun at the hands of a lunatic.

6 lawhawk  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:44:21am

This proud Jew doesn't have a problem with the Jewish Week calling out Geller for her extremist views.

And they are indeed extreme. Her views put her in line with Kach and Kahanists in Israel (both of which have been banned precisely because of their extremism - and which is now considered a terrorist group by Israel).

7 wrenchwench  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:45:12am

Pam said

Actually, the photoshop was Kagan as Colonel Klink.

One of her commenters points out

Small thing: It wasn't Kagan as Colonel Klink -- it was Kagan as Sergeant Schultz. Hilarious too.
8 stevemcg  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:45:23am

You know, if it weren't for this blog, I would hardly hear anything at all about Pamela Geller.

9 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:45:41am

And while we're on the topic of the "Islamic takeover of the U.S.A." I tried to find a swimming pool with separate hours for men and women in Dearbornistan. Well guess what! There is none! Once a year the Islamic Center will rent the Dearborn community pool and organize separate time for men, and for women. Once a freaking year!

So if Muslims in Dearborn want to exercise every day, and need a pool that has separate men's and women's times, they have to use...

...wait for it...

The Jewish Community Center!

10 [deleted]  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:45:53am
11 Kragar  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:46:54am

"There are no gray areas" is the international warning sign for crazy as a shithouse rat.

12 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:47:03am

re: #3 BigPapa

Who run Bartertown?

13 theheat  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:47:22am

re: #10 PhillyPretzel

Unfortunately, like the Tea Party, there are too many freaks getting their hate on that agree with her. If not her, it'd be someone else. And there's always Fox News.

14 PhillyPretzel  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:48:24am

Fine it is deleted. She is very annoying.

15 Bubblehead II  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:48:30am

re: #10 PhillyPretzel

Iirc, she is being sued for 10 million bucks for flapping her beak.

16 jaunte  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:48:37am

re: #8 stevemcg

You know, if it weren't for this blog, I would hardly hear anything at all about Pamela Geller.

She gets some other press, too.
[Link: www.google.com...]

17 Charles Johnson  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:48:47am

re: #8 stevemcg

You know, if it weren't for this blog, I would hardly hear anything at all about Pamela Geller.

Really? So the fact that she's on Jewish Week's 2010 list of 7 people who made a difference is just a fluke, eh?

18 Henchman Ghazi-808  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:49:11am

re: #8 stevemcg

You know, if it weren't for this blog, I would hardly hear anything at all about Pamela Geller.

Yeah, thanks for being way out in front on calling out Pam's craziness Charles.

19 reine.de.tout  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:49:20am

re: #9 Alouette

And while we're on the topic of the "Islamic takeover of the U.S.A." I tried to find a swimming pool with separate hours for men and women in Dearbornistan. Well guess what! There is none! Once a year the Islamic Center will rent the Dearborn community pool and organize separate time for men, and for women. Once a freaking year!

So if Muslims in Dearborn want to exercise every day, and need a pool that has separate men's and women's times, they have to use...

...wait for it...

The Jewish Community Center!

Stories like this make me oh-so-happy for the Fitness Center at the Baton Rouge Women's Center for Wellness. No men, unless workers, and then there's a warning. You can actually work out and not worry about being ogled or how awful you look.

20 Kragar  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:49:55am

re: #17 Charles

Really? So the fact that she's on Jewish Week's 2010 list of 7 people who made a difference is just a fluke, eh?

And 60 minutes, and Fox News...

21 reine.de.tout  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:50:45am

re: #18 BigPapa

Yeah, thanks for being way out in front on calling out Pam's craziness Charles.

Many other places that feature her, feature her as a positive.

She's nutz allright, but Charles, really - LGF is one of few voices calling her out on it in a big way.

22 lawhawk  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:51:21am

re: #20 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And the NY Times. (and here)

23 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:51:28am

Sadly, Arutz Sheva is no longer on my list of "reliable Israeli media sources" after publishing op eds by Geller and now this crap.

24 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:51:43am

re: #17 Charles

Honestly, I wouldn't have heard of her either. But, I am glad I now know who she is, and I have you (LGF) to thank.

25 PhillyPretzel  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:52:32am

re: #23 Alouette
Yes that is crap.

26 stevemcg  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:52:35am

re: #17 Charles

Really? So the fact that she's on Jewish Week's 2010 list of 7 people who made a difference is just a fluke, eh?

She gets her press somewhere. But on that first page of the google link from juante, there was only one source (Huffpo) I look at. I'm certainly not cloistered or anything, I generally keep MSNBC or CNN on (Not watching, but just sort of keeping an ear on) and I hardly ever hear her name. Every once in a while they'll have an Orly Taitz flare up.

27 Fozzie Bear  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:52:44am

re: #11 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"There are no gray areas" is the international warning sign for crazy as a shithouse rat.

This is so true.

28 Obdicut  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:54:50am

re: #26 stevemcg

Here you go: Geller on CNN.

[Link: articles.cnn.com...]

That was pretty easy to find.

29 jaunte  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:54:58am

re: #26 stevemcg

This is a good piece from Salon that helps to explain why people should keep an eye on Geller's newsmaking efforts:
How the "ground zero mosque" fear mongering began

30 Charles Johnson  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:55:24am

re: #23 Alouette

Sadly, Arutz Sheva is no longer on my list of "reliable Israeli media sources" after publishing op eds by Geller and now this crap.

The Israeli settler movement is lurching to the far right, big time, making alliances with the very worst fascist right wing parties in Europe. I hate to see it. There's always been a contingent of extremists there, but with support from people like Avigdor Lieberman, the extremists are now taking over completely.

31 reine.de.tout  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:56:23am

re: #26 stevemcg

She gets her press somewhere. But on that first page of the google link from juante, there was only one source (Huffpo) I look at. I'm certainly not cloistered or anything, I generally keep MSNBC or CNN on (Not watching, but just sort of keeping an ear on) and I hardly ever hear her name. Every once in a while they'll have an Orly Taitz flare up.

It seems to me outside of NYC, and possibly some Jewish publications, most of us around the country would not know the name Pamela Gellar (or know about the vileness she spews), UNLESS we were to hear of her in a positive light as a speaker at a local function, or partner with Robert Spencer.

32 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 10:58:16am

re: #26 stevemcg

She gets her press somewhere. But on that first page of the google link from juante, there was only one source (Huffpo) I look at. I'm certainly not cloistered or anything, I generally keep MSNBC or CNN on (Not watching, but just sort of keeping an ear on) and I hardly ever hear her name. Every once in a while they'll have an Orly Taitz flare up.

She's been on both MSNBC and CNN, not just mentioned, on:

33 jaunte  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:01:02am

A Media Matters roundup:

Memo to media: Pamela Geller does not belong on national television
...Geller's history of outrageous, inflammatory and false claims, particularly when it comes to issues related to Islam, demonstrate that she cannot be expected to make accurate statements and should not be rewarded with a platform on national television.
34 stevemcg  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:01:10am

re: #28 Obdicut

Here you go: Geller on CNN.

[Link: articles.cnn.com...]

[Video]

That was pretty easy to find.

I'm with you, she's a whackadoodle. But you had to search to come up with an appearance from six months ago. I think her importance is getting inflated like the burn the Koran and the God hates Fags ministers.

35 Obdicut  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:04:03am

re: #34 stevemcg

I'm sorry, but your contention was that you wouldn't have heard of her without this blog. She has had major news media appearances.

She was right at the center of the anti-Mosque furor. That is a very important and terrible phenomenon. So how is her importance being overblown?

36 stevemcg  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:07:32am

re: #35 Obdicut

Again, she is not a regular in the MSM outlets I look at. You have to search for her to find her. As far as I see it, she has not really pierced the cocoon of her lunacy. It seems to me more of an issue of people looking for her to get a laugh (or cry) rather than her effectivelness in steering the public discourse

37 wrenchwench  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:08:07am

re: #35 Obdicut

I'm sorry, but your contention was that you wouldn't have heard of her without this blog. She has had major news media appearances.

She was right at the center of the anti-Mosque furor. That is a very important and terrible phenomenon. So how is her importance being overblown?

Perhaps he's concerned that coverage on LGF is more important than coverage on CNN, MSNBC, and the New York Times. He may have a point.

/

38 stevemcg  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:09:04am

re: #37 wrenchwench

Perhaps he's concerned that coverage on LGF is more important than coverage on CNN, MSNBC, and the New York Times. He may have a point.

/

Not quite sure what that meant.

39 Henchman Ghazi-808  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:09:18am

re: #34 stevemcg

I think her importance is getting inflated like the burn the Koran and the God hates Fags ministers.

A homeless guy standing on a street corner with a sign is not important. A person who runs a blog writing hateful screeds full of misinformation is much more important.

40 wrenchwench  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:09:31am

re: #38 stevemcg

Not quite sure what that meant.

Oh well.

41 stevemcg  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:09:32am

Ah jeez missed the sarc tag!

42 sliv_the_eli  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:11:48am

re: #30 Charles

Afraid you are painting with an overly broad brush there, Charles. Citing Arutz Sheva as proof that the "settler movement" is moving to the right is an exercise in circularity, because Arutz Sheva represents the right wing of the settler movement. It is like citing Stormfront (or Atlas Shrugs) as proof that the United States is lurching to the extreme right. The reality is that the majority of "settlers" (even if East Jerusalem is not included in the count) are merely suburbanites who chose to take advantage of government subsidies to purchase affordable housing in the suburbs of Jerusalem. The balance of the "settler" population have always been predominantly -- but not exclusively -- right-wing in their political views, and while their views have largely hardened in the wake of the absolute failure of the 2005 withdrawal from Gaza, they have hardly "lurched" to the right recently.

43 Obdicut  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:13:36am

re: #36 stevemcg

Again, she is not a regular in the MSM outlets I look at.

Yes, I did see that you'd moved the goalposts.

You have to search for her to find her.

No, you would have had to be watching CNN to find her.

As far as I see it, she has not really pierced the cocoon of her lunacy.

I have no idea what this means.

It seems to me more of an issue of people looking for her to get a laugh (or cry) rather than her effectivelness in steering the public discourse

I'm sorry, did you miss the anti-Mosque furor?

44 Charles Johnson  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:14:24am

re: #42 sliv_the_eli

When I see major Israeli political figures from the settlements making alliances with groups like the EDL, Vlaams Belang, and the Freedom Party of Austria, I consider that a very pronounced lurch to the right.

45 PhillyPretzel  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:17:37am

When any group makes a switch to either side it is a very dangerous thing.

46 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:19:47am

re: #42 sliv_the_eli

Afraid you are painting with an overly broad brush there, Charles. Citing Arutz Sheva as proof that the "settler movement" is moving to the right is an exercise in circularity, because Arutz Sheva represents the right wing of the settler movement. It is like citing Stormfront (or Atlas Shrugs) as proof that the United States is lurching to the extreme right. The reality is that the majority of "settlers" (even if East Jerusalem is not included in the count) are merely suburbanites who chose to take advantage of government subsidies to purchase affordable housing in the suburbs of Jerusalem. The balance of the "settler" population have always been predominantly -- but not exclusively -- right-wing in their political views, and while their views have largely hardened in the wake of the absolute failure of the 2005 withdrawal from Gaza, they have hardly "lurched" to the right recently.

I find it very disturbing that Arutz Sheva has decided to support the EDL.

47 sliv_the_eli  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:19:53am

re: #44 Charles

I understand where you are coming from, but these people are already of the right. It seems to me their alliance with European fascists is:

1. A sign of the degree to which the right-wing of the settler movement has absorbed the Middle Eastern ethos that the enemy of one's enemy is, for the moment at least, one's friend; but
2.Sheer stupidity (which I suspect is your fundamental point and one with which I wholeheartedly agree).
I offer up for your consideration the United States' alliance with the mujahedin in Afghanistan during the 1980's and Israel's early dalliance with Hamas as a counterwight to the PLO as examples of both points.

48 stevemcg  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:21:38am

re: #43 Obdicut

Yes, I did see that you'd moved the goalposts.
No, you would have had to be watching CNN to find her.

I think that's a non sequitor. From the search you showed me, you would have to be watching CNN A LOT to have seen her.

I'm sorry, did you miss the anti-Mosque furor?

Most of the anti mosque furor I saw came from the usual gang of idiots that inhabit my MSM world. Their coincidence with Geller's furor doesn't necessarily mean that was a leader. Just anecdotally, most of the Pamela Geller posts on this blog are connected to Atlas Shrugs, rather than MSM appearances.

I don't want to make this a distraction. Her hatred is important to Charles, and this is his blog. I have no problem with that. My opinion is that there are bigger rats in the sewar than Geller.

49 sliv_the_eli  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:21:54am

re: #46 Alouette

A point on which we agree. Jews have had too great and too recent experience with European fascists for such an alliance to make sense from a strategic, as opposed to a short-term tactical, perspective.

I disagreed with Charles only in that I don't find it to be proof that the "settler movement" is "lurching to the right", for the reasons I discussed.

50 Obdicut  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:23:09am

re: #48 stevemcg

Your dismissal of her 'importance' in the anti-mosque campaign appears to be a simple assertion with nothing to back it up. She's certainly cited all over the place by those frenzied by the subject.

I don't want to make this a distraction.

Then why did you?

51 stevemcg  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:23:45am

re: #48 stevemcg

I seem to have messed that up by putting a sentence in the middle of that blockquote without adjusting the tags. Then i fixed a typo in Geller's name on the last sentence but left in "sewar". ugh

52 Charles Johnson  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:25:52am

re: #49 sliv_the_eli

A point on which we agree. Jews have had too great and too recent experience with European fascists for such an alliance to make sense from a strategic, as opposed to a short-term tactical, perspective.

I disagreed with Charles only in that I don't find it to be proof that the "settler movement" is "lurching to the right", for the reasons I discussed.

If Israelis making alliances with parties who are linked to actual Third Reich Nazis isn't a "lurch to the right," what would you call it?

53 wrenchwench  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:26:21am

re: #48 stevemcg

I don't want to make this a distraction. Her hatred is important to Charles, and this is his blog. I have no problem with that. My opinion is that there are bigger rats in the sewar than Geller.

Not all of the sewer rats got their start at this particular blog. I think making sure as many people as possible see her for what she is may be the responsible thing to do, and you can read more about it here.

54 reine.de.tout  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:26:46am

re: #36 stevemcg

Again, she is not a regular in the MSM outlets I look at. You have to search for her to find her. As far as I see it, she has not really pierced the cocoon of her lunacy. It seems to me more of an issue of people looking for her to get a laugh (or cry) rather than her effectivelness in steering the public discourse

She has a huge effect, even if people have not heard of her.

The Park51 project is an example. As far as I know, she began the shrieking about it. I've seen folks I know all over talking about that project now; and they've never heard of Pam Geller. She's had a noxious effect far beyond her name recognition in any locality.

55 reine.de.tout  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:31:18am

re: #54 reine.de.tout

She has a huge effect, even if people have not heard of her.

The Park51 project is an example. As far as I know, she began the shrieking about it. I've seen folks I know all over talking about that project now; and they've never heard of Pam Geller. She's had a noxious effect far beyond her name recognition in any locality.

And therein, the bigger danger of Pam. Sane people who see her in action, are turned off right away. Folks who've never seen or been exposed to Pam, took up the mosque idiocy without knowing the craziness that gave rise to it. I suspect more than a few of my sane buddies wouldn't have been so quick to jump on that bandwagon had they known anything about Pam at all.

Which makes me all the more grateful for LGF - it's where I hear things I don't see or hear elsewhere, and then the decisions I make as to what i want to support/not support have more substance behind them.

56 sliv_the_eli  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:34:40am

re: #52 Charles

I would call it rank and abject stupidity.

However, I think you are overstating the degree to which "settlers", much less Israelis at large, are making an alliance with the new fascists of Europe. Arutz Sheva represents the right wing of a subset of the population that is itself (as a general matter, at least) at the right end of the Israeli political spectrum. The decision by Arutz Sheva's editorial board and by the portion of the political echelon that it represents to make common cause with EDL, VB and others of their ilk represents, at most, a lurch to the right for that subset of the Israeli and settler population. However, I think even that might be overstating the case, as I see this mostly as an extremely ill-advised and short-sighted decision to ally against what they perceive as a common enemy, namely the growing population of anti-Israeli and anti-Jewish Muslims in Europe.

57 stevemcg  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:34:41am

re: #50 Obdicut

I think it take two to make a distraction. One to say "look over there" and another to keep on looking. My opinion about Geller's importance isn't even that far OT. I suppose you cast a wider media net than I do. I just don't see her invading the MSM the way you do. If I type Pamela Geller in the search field on MSNBC.com, I only get 119 results. Only a few are from December, and most of those are redundant leaks to three things. If I do it on CNN.com there are only 13 results, and none dated past August.

58 Henchman Ghazi-808  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:35:26am

re: #48 stevemcg

I don't want to make this a distraction. Her hatred is important to Charles, and this is his blog. I have no problem with that. My opinion is that there are bigger rats in the sewar than Geller.

Spidey sense is really tingling now.

59 reine.de.tout  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:37:40am

re: #57 stevemcg

I think it take two to make a distraction. One to say "look over there" and another to keep on looking. My opinion about Geller's importance isn't even that far OT. I suppose you cast a wider media net than I do. I just don't see her invading the MSM the way you do. If I type Pamela Geller in the search field on MSNBC.com, I only get 119 results. Only a few are from December, and most of those are redundant leaks to three things. If I do it on CNN.com there are only 13 results, and none dated past August.

She's been on a few shows, sometimes she even looks normal.
But again, the noxious effect she has (and has had) is far greater than her name recognition in any particular location in the country. Don't dismiss her as being unimportant in the grand scheme, just because you or I don't see her name often in the news.

60 Obdicut  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:37:42am

re: #57 stevemcg

I think it take two to make a distraction. One to say "look over there" and another to keep on looking

Way to dodge responsibility. Pretty much what I expected.

I suppose you cast a wider media net than I do.

Why do you suppose that? My argument hasn't been about her presence in the MSM, except in showing that your assertion that if one just watched MSNBC and CNN, one wouldn't encounter her was wrong.

I just don't see her invading the MSM the way you do.

Please show where I've said that she's invaded the MSM.

Do you think that the only way one can influence opinion is through the MSM?

61 stevemcg  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:42:30am

BYW I suppose you may call her lack of coverage a failure of the MSM, since they seem to get blamed for a lot these days. Personally, I wouldn't. I just think she inhabits a world sharded by skinheads and neo confederate good old boys. I still happen to think that her involvement in the Park 51 furor was coincidental to the mass hysteria. It was a useful political tool for a lot of people, even those who wouldn't touch her with a ten foot pole.

62 Obdicut  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:43:06am

re: #61 stevemcg

I still happen to think that her involvement in the Park 51 furor was coincidental

Why?

63 Henchman Ghazi-808  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:43:17am

re: #57 stevemcg

I think it take two to make a distraction. One to say "look over there" and another to keep on looking. My opinion about Geller's importance isn't even that far OT. I suppose you cast a wider media net than I do. I just don't see her invading the MSM the way you do. If I type Pamela Geller in the search field on MSNBC.com, I only get 119 results. Only a few are from December, and most of those are redundant leaks to three things. If I do it on CNN.com there are only 13 results, and none dated past August.

A CNN search only had 3 hits for 'Vlaams Belang.' MSNBC only one result.

I guess Vlaams Belang is not that important and Charles is distracted by them too.

64 wrenchwench  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:43:42am

re: #61 stevemcg

You haven't read a single link from this thread, have you?

65 Kragar  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:46:31am

re: #61 stevemcg

BYW I suppose you may call her lack of coverage a failure of the MSM, since they seem to get blamed for a lot these days. Personally, I wouldn't. I just think she inhabits a world sharded by skinheads and neo confederate good old boys. I still happen to think that her involvement in the Park 51 furor was coincidental to the mass hysteria. It was a useful political tool for a lot of people, even those who wouldn't touch her with a ten foot pole.

Coincedental in what respect?

66 stevemcg  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:47:01am

re: #60 Obdicut

"Dodge responsibility"? My comment wasn't even off topic, which seems to be part of the definition of distraction. I am not saying her invasion of the MSM is your point. My point is that she is getting puffed up out of proportion, like those ministers I mentioned before.

And it's kind of hard to influence opinion without the MSM. I suppose it can be done, but I haven't seen any good examples.

67 Henchman Ghazi-808  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:47:05am

re: #61 stevemcg

I just think she inhabits a world sharded by skinheads and neo confederate good old boys. I still happen to think that her involvement in the Park 51 furor was coincidental to the mass hysteria.

10 foot poles seem to be disappearing nowadays. She drove the Park51 animosity with a steady campaign through her website then was quoted and interviewed by legitimate news outlets. She was not coincidental, she was instrumental.

68 Obdicut  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:50:19am

re: #66 stevemcg

My point is that she is getting puffed up out of proportion, like those ministers I mentioned before.

You do realize you haven't done anything, at all, in any way, to support this point, right?

You do realize she organized the street protest against the Cordoba House, the protest that was covered by all the MSM outlets?

69 stevemcg  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:50:20am

re: #64 wrenchwench

You haven't read a single link from this thread, have you?

Sure of yourself, eh? Actually I clicked on juante's google search, and I mentioned that. I looked at the YouTubes and noted the dates of the appearances. There may have been a post I missed, since posts come up when I type and do other stuff, but I think I've been pretty thorough.

70 Henchman Ghazi-808  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:51:03am

re: #66 stevemcg

My point is that she is getting puffed up out of proportion, like those ministers I mentioned before.

By Charles and LGF?

71 makeitstop  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:53:14am

re: #66 stevemcg

My point is that she is getting puffed up out of proportion, like those ministers I mentioned before.

New York Times, 60 Minutes, CNN, MSNBC, Fox.

These are major media outlets in this country. I don't see how you can claim that someone who has appeared or been profiled on all of these outlets is being 'puffed out of proportion.'

Even the ministers you want to compare her to have not gotten Geller's level of exposure.

72 stevemcg  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 11:58:24am

re: #70 BigPapa

You know I'm not sure we're communicating. I think I was pretty clear early in this thread. The overwhelming majority of what I hear about Pamela Geller comes from LGF. I guess I am looking at a second order media frenzy. The wingnuts I see and hear are probably whipped up by her. I would doubt that she has that sole claim to fame however. I'm sure there are lots of sources to get your hate on. Most people probably had hatred in their hearts to begin with. I did at one time. All Geller does is provide reinforcement. I don't think she's a movement leader or anything like that.

73 Obdicut  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:01:13pm

re: #72 stevemcg

So, you don't think she's someone who, for example, organizes and leads a protest against Cordoba House that gets covered by the national media?

Why not, given that she is?

74 M. Dubious  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:03:15pm

Googeling "pamela geller" returns about 280000 results, while "satan in america" returns 35500, which leads to the conclusion that Pamela Geller is bigger than Satan in America.

75 stevemcg  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:04:29pm

CNN.com:

Pamela Geller 13 results

Westboro Baptist Church 55 results

Terry Jones (the Koran non-burner) 435 results, but there's something about that name that I don't think is unique (Monty Python?)

76 Henchman Ghazi-808  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:06:21pm

re: #72 stevemcg

You know I'm not sure we're communicating. I think I was pretty clear early in this thread. The overwhelming majority of what I hear about Pamela Geller comes from LGF.

You didn't answer the question.

77 brookly red  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:09:04pm

I couldn't resist...

Googel is Satan... About 3,050,000 results (0.14 seconds)

78 Slap  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:09:22pm

re: #75 stevemcg

CNN, MSNBC, MSM....buncha letters.

Here's a few more: SPLC.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

79 Kragar  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:10:21pm

re: #77 brookly red

I couldn't resist...

Googel is Satan... About 3,050,000 results (0.14 seconds)

Porn

Advanced searchAbout 263,000,000 results (0.11 seconds)

80 brookly red  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:13:06pm

re: #79 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Porn

Advanced searchAbout 263,000,000 results (0.11 seconds)

there you go again with your advanced searches...

81 M. Dubious  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:13:18pm

re: #77 brookly red

I couldn't resist...

Googel is Satan... About 3,050,000 results (0.14 seconds)

Thank you for your research. We are now left with to possibilities: 1) Pam is bigger than Google or 2) Pam is Satan in drag.

82 charlz  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:13:31pm

re: #79 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Porn

Advanced searchAbout 263,000,000 results (0.11 seconds)

pornoholics anonymous = 631 results

83 S'latch  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:14:50pm

As a Jew, Pamela Geller is an embarrassment to me.

84 brookly red  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:15:24pm

re: #81 harald

Thank you for your research. We are now left with to possibilities: 1) Pam is bigger than Google or 2) Pam is Satan in drag.

but does she weigh more than a duck?

85 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:16:05pm

re: #84 brookly red

but does she weigh more think less coherently than a duck?

86 Stanghazi  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:16:08pm

daveweigel

BREAKING: Joe Miller's heart. RT @jmartpolitico: (AP) - Lisa Murkowski certified winner of Alaska Senate race after long legal battle

87 stevemcg  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:16:41pm

re: #73 Obdicut

So, you don't think she's someone who, for example, organizes and leads a protest against Cordoba House that gets covered by the national media?

Why not, given that she is?

Not sure of your point, I just stand by my statement that the overwhelming majority of what I heard comes from LGF. Scraping up a CNN appearance from June 6, 2010 doesn't really convince me that she's a major media figure.
Sure yo can check out Atlas Shrugs and get your daily dose of insanity. You can get your fix a lot of places. When I want my dose, I go to the comment section of Attytood. None of those idiots ever quote her or even mention her, but I'm sure it's the same crap. These wingnuts don't need to read the latest thing Geller wrote to keep their juices flowing. Heck, half the time I think they just take the writer's position and assume he's bad and the opposite must therefore be good. That's where I think Geller lurks. So for the last time, I will just simply try to restate my point that I think you guys worry about her too much.

88 charlz  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:16:44pm

re: #84 brookly red

but does she weigh more than a duck?

sasquack?

89 Bubblehead II  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:16:46pm

Daily Kos is also working the Harpy over today.

Pamela-Geller:-Biggest-Islamophobic-Bigot-of-2010

TThere are plenty of examples to go around, and she got tons of coal for her Christmas gift, plus a one-way ticket to Hell."

90 brookly red  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:17:21pm

re: #85 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

AFLACK!

91 M. Dubious  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:17:52pm

I still think she is hot, in that bikini sort of way.

92 Bubblehead II  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:18:36pm

re: #89 Bubblehead II

oops, that was from the 27th. My bad.

93 Kragar  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:18:40pm

Inuit lives and diets change as ice shifts

Barry Smit, a professor at the University of Guelph, Canada, has spent five years leading research projects into how melting ice and changes in wildlife habits are impacting the lives and livelihoods of far northern communities.

Among his most striking findings was that increasing difficulty in hunting for traditional food was leading to much more junk food in the Inuit diet.

"People looking at the health of the Inuit have demonstrated that the traditional diet, which is almost exclusively raw meat, is in fact very healthy for them," Smit said. "But because of the new difficulties hunting, people are adapting their diets to what's available in the stores.

"The stores only have food that's easy to transport and doesn't perish, so there are no vegetables. The young people are increasingly eating highly processed junk food, so we are seeing more teeth problems and obesity."

The difficulties in hunting are caused by shifting ice and changing migratory patterns among animals such as seals, walrus, types of whales and polar bears, which form a large part of the traditional diet, Smit said.

94 Kragar  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:19:09pm

re: #90 brookly red

AFLACK!

WAS THE BOMB IN PHANTOMS!

95 Obdicut  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:19:12pm

re: #87 stevemcg

So for the last time, I will just simply try to restate my point that I think you guys worry about her too much.

And again-- you have done nothing, at all, in any way, shape, or form, to support your point.

Given that she was able to organize and lead a protest against the Cordoba House, that she was interviewed by the mass media on the subject, and that she is quoted widely all over the right-wing blogosphere, your point would need a hell of a lot of support. And you have given it none.

At least read the Souther Poverty Law Center report that includes her.

96 Kragar  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:19:38pm

re: #91 harald

I still think she is hot, in that bikini sort of way.

No, just no.

97 wrenchwench  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:21:15pm

re: #91 harald

I still think she is hot, in that bikini sort of way.

Really?

Image: Anti-Islam-Blogger-Pamela-003.jpg

98 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:21:38pm

re: #94 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"Ben Affleck has a fucking Oscar."
-Assume the Position

99 M. Dubious  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:21:50pm

re: #96 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

No, just no.

Not a fan of the women, eh? Heh.

100 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:22:14pm

re: #97 wrenchwench

Still looks better than the pic that Charles posts.

That one gives me the willies.

101 brookly red  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:22:24pm

re: #97 wrenchwench

Really?

Image: Anti-Islam-Blogger-Pamela-003.jpg

don't you ever do that again.

102 M. Dubious  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:23:52pm

re: #97 wrenchwench

Really?

Image: Anti-Islam-Blogger-Pamela-003.jpg

That pic is a left-wing conspiracy! They put salt in her morning coffee!

103 Henchman Ghazi-808  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:23:56pm

re: #87 stevemcg

So for the last time, I will just simply try to restate my point that I think you guys worry about her too much.

I think you worry too much about 'us guys' worrying about her too much.

104 Kragar  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:24:56pm

re: #99 harald

Not a fan of the women, eh? Heh.

Leatherface has a better complexion than Pam.

105 Slap  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:25:14pm

re: #99 harald

Not a fan of the women, eh? Heh.

How did you manage to connect the sacred word "woman" to the Geller thingy?

106 wrenchwench  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:25:24pm

re: #101 brookly red

don't you ever do that again.

If you get stevemcg to admit she's an appropriate topic of conversation here, I promise not to do it again.

107 Varek Raith  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:25:30pm

re: #103 BigPapa

I think you worry too much about 'us guys' worrying about her too much.

He's concerned.

108 brookly red  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:27:03pm

re: #106 wrenchwench

If you get stevemcg to admit she's an appropriate topic of conversation here, I promise not to do it again.

/ I don't negotiate with terrorists...

109 Kragar  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:28:59pm

re: #98 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Ben Affleck has a fucking Oscar."
-Assume the Position

We've got a 10-07.
HA! I DON'T EVEN HAVE A HOOKER IN MY TRAILER!

110 Bubblehead II  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:29:12pm
111 wrenchwench  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:30:03pm

re: #110 Bubblehead II

The new Helen Thomas of the Internet?

Just wait 'til Geller's that old....yeesh.

112 makeitstop  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:33:03pm

re: #91 harald

I still think she is hot, in that bikini sort of way.

I think she's hot in that hateful, deranged ex, mental patient sort of way. ///////

113 stevemcg  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:35:47pm

re: #95 Obdicut

Not exactly sure what you want. I was pretty clear. I keep an ear on CNN or MSNBC. I rarely if ever hear her name. I look at some other media outlets too, and I hardly ever see her name there either, other then when somebody might be complaining about her latest statement. So she got some face time during the Park 51 frenzy. I remember the frenzy, don't remeber her. Perhaps the shows on at the time I was listening had other people on that parroted her opinions. Nevertheless they were not Pamela Geller. They may have shouted down the host til they were blue in the face that it was a victory mospue, or a terror mosque, or whatever, but they were not Pamela Geller. That was the scope of my observation. Finding a CNN appearance from 6 months ago doesn't really leave much of a mark. I never argued that she isn't nuts or anything. I'm not sure why it sparked such indignance that you had to try to refute it.

As far as my opinion of Geller, I don't think she's a leader at all. I think she sees the hatred and tries to upstage it so that she looks like a leader. The hatred would be the same wheter she was doing her thing or not.

114 Varek Raith  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:38:16pm

re: #113 stevemcg

You are doing you damnedest to minimize Pamela Geller.
Why?

115 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:45:36pm

Just found out I have the day off tomorrow. When you're a commissioned salesperson? Here's the definition...

Tomorrow? I am unemployed.

116 stevemcg  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:46:39pm

re: #114 Varek Raith

Is she running for office? Is she doing anything that isn't already being done all over the right wing? Is she even making a dent in public opinion? Perhaps I could understand that it's nice to hold her up in a Palinesque way to hold up her statements to the light of her craziness, but I just don't see the right wingers looking to her for either foundation or inspriation.

117 brookly red  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:46:49pm

re: #115 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Just found out I have the day off tomorrow. When you're a commissioned salesperson? Here's the definition...

Tomorrow? I am unemployed.

meh? 30 million strong makes a hell of a party!

118 stevemcg  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:47:23pm

re: #115 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What did you sell?

119 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:48:08pm

re: #27 Fozzie Bear

This is so true.

Pamela Geller is God's way of saying stay away from Pamela Geller

120 brookly red  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:48:17pm

re: #118 stevemcg

What did you sell?

/pork bellies

121 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:48:43pm

re: #115 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Just found out I have the day off tomorrow. When you're a commissioned salesperson? Here's the definition...

Tomorrow? I am unemployed.

Same with being an artist, except I have to tell myself to take the day off

Workaholica!

122 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:49:37pm

re: #118 stevemcg

What did you sell?

I am a kitchen designer/planner.

123 Obdicut  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:50:03pm

re: #113 stevemcg

Why are you avoiding the fact that she organized and led a protest against the Park 51 project?

Did you read the SPLC report?


Public figures such as Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin helped fuel that discord with harsh denunciations of the proposed Muslim center. But no one did more to fan the flames of fear and hatred over the “Ground Zero mosque” than Pamela Geller, co-founder of Stop Islamization of America (SIOA).

Earlier this year, Geller — who also has questioned whether President Obama was born in America — bought anti-Muslim ads that were displayed on New York City buses for a month. She warned that Muslims will “turn to further intimidation, murder and terrorism” if they can’t achieve a political takeover. Her comments were so incendiary, in fact, that several neo-Nazi organizations even ignored the fact that she is Jewish and published her diatribes. She in turn commented favorably on the South African, apartheid-defending terrorist Eugene Terre’Blanche after he was murdered, blaming his death on “black supremacism.”

On Sept. 11, Geller led a rally near the proposed Muslim community center, where protesters carried signs (“No mosque on sacred ground”) and heard speeches by her and Geert Wilders. Wilders is a hard-line Dutch lawmaker who has compared the Koran to Hitler’s Mein Kampf and made frequent speeches in the United States warning that Islam is an ideology, not a religion, intent on world domination.

Is there some reason why you think you have more credibility than the SPLC center on the subject of fomenting hate?

If not, on what actual grounds do you disagree with them?

124 brookly red  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:50:04pm

re: #119 WindUpBird

Pamela Geller is God's way of saying stay away from Pamela Geller

Oh Lord, I am agreeing with bird again...

125 wrenchwench  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:50:37pm

re: #121 WindUpBird

Same with being an artist, except I have to tell myself to take the day off

Workaholica!

I'm thinking of going home early because all the other shops on this street closed because of 6" of snow.

126 stevemcg  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:51:50pm

I used to look down on salesmen. Someday I'm going to have to become one. I'm not looking forward to it, because I would have the urge to hang up on myself. I was hoping that my nieces or nephews would want to become salesmen, but they want to waste their lives in medical scholl and residencies. But it's a valuable skill. Especially in tight markets.

127 Bubblehead II  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:52:37pm

re: #113 stevemcg

"As far as my opinion of Geller, I don't think she's a leader at all. I think she sees the hatred and tries to upstage it so that she looks like a leader. The hatred would be the same wheter she was doing her thing or not."

//Yeah right.

"The league has also developed links with Pamela Geller, who was influential in the protests against plans to build an Islamic cultural centre near Ground Zero. Geller, darling of the Tea Party's growing anti-Islamic wing, is advocating an alliance with the EDL. The executive director of the Stop Islamisation of America organisation, she recently met EDL leaders in New York and has defended the group's actions, despite a recent violent march in Bradford."

and this.

"Devin Burghart, vice-president of the Kansas-based Institute for Research & Education on Human Rights, said: "Geller is acting as the bridge between the EDL and the Tea Party. She plays an important role in bringing Islamophobia into the Tea Party. Her stature has increased substantially inside the Tea Party ranks after the Ground Zero mosque controversy. She has gained a lot of credibility with that stuff."

BTW, that clip is from the Guardian, an English newspaper. She has influence and is getting press coverage here at home and overseas.

128 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:54:46pm

re: #113 stevemcg

She's not an A-lister like a radio host, that is true, I'd say she's shaping thought and influencing the sorts of people who think they're informed because they read right wing bloggy screeds and mumbo jumbo fat beardo nativism garbage like World Net Daily et al, and those people are stupid, suggestible, and often armed.

She's sorta like the bronze medal Ann Coulter, she totally wants to be the sexy body on the best seller cover making liberals cry, problem is she's not as charismatic or funny as ann coulter (for what it's worth, Coulter knows how to work the media) and she's a drunk, and she can't spell. Not great attributes for someone trying to be taken seriously. but she's still read enough, still spreading bigotry and stridently repeating paranoid delusions as fact, enough to be dangerous and incite violence, so she's still important enough to be discussed here.

Just because something (emphasis on thing, lol) isn't covered on CNN (which itself is little more than USA Today with more flying logos and yelling) doesn't mean it is insignificant

129 stevemcg  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:54:52pm

re: #122 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Good luck. Maybe when people aren't buying new homes they'll fix up their old ones.

130 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:55:08pm

re: #124 brookly red

Oh Lord, I am agreeing with bird again...

we are all united in being totally grossed out by pam geller

131 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:55:40pm

re: #125 wrenchwench

I'm thinking of going home early because all the other shops on this street closed because of 6" of snow.

oh man I am about to drive to Seattle, it had better not snow here -_-

132 Bubblehead II  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:55:40pm
133 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 12:56:16pm

re: #132 Bubblehead II

oops, forgot the link.

English Defence League forges links with America's Tea Party

just what we need, a convergence of the mentally ill

134 wrenchwench  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 1:00:37pm

re: #131 WindUpBird

oh man I am about to drive to Seattle, it had better not snow here -_-

When I moved from Portland to Everett, WA, it was snowing like crazy on I-5. We had a VW bus, which notoriously have lousy heaters. We lit a campstove on the floor between the front seats (after my safety concerns were squelched) and got amazed looks from bundled up occupants of other VW buses as we rolled along in short sleeves.

135 BongCrodny  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 1:02:16pm

re: #128 WindUpBird

She's not an A-lister like a radio host, that is true, I'd say she's shaping thought and influencing the sorts of people who think they're informed because they read right wing bloggy screeds and mumbo jumbo fat beardo nativism garbage like World Net Daily et al, and those people are stupid, suggestible, and often armed.

She's sorta like the bronze medal Ann Coulter, she totally wants to be the sexy body on the best seller cover making liberals cry, problem is she's not as charismatic or funny as ann coulter (for what it's worth, Coulter knows how to work the media) and she's a drunk, and she can't spell. Not great attributes for someone trying to be taken seriously. but she's still read enough, still spreading bigotry and stridently repeating paranoid delusions as fact, enough to be dangerous and incite violence, so she's still important enough to be discussed here.

Just because something (emphasis on thing, lol) isn't covered on CNN (which itself is little more than USA Today with more flying logos and yelling) doesn't mean it is insignificant


Weren't there instances last year of Republicans going on national TV and praising the mosque as being a positive for the community?

It seems as though nobody was particularly upset about the mosque before Pammy got her war on.

A Public Policy Polling poll taken in October of this year found that only 4% of Republicans supported the mosque.

*Someone* was pretty damn influential in getting the pitchforks-and-torches crowd all riled up.

136 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 1:23:25pm

re: #126 stevemcg

I used to look down on salesmen. Someday I'm going to have to become one. I'm not looking forward to it, because I would have the urge to hang up on myself. I was hoping that my nieces or nephews would want to become salesmen, but they want to waste their lives in medical scholl and residencies. But it's a valuable skill. Especially in tight markets.

What's wrong with sales? I enjoy it.

137 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 1:25:22pm

re: #134 wrenchwench

When I moved from Portland to Everett, WA, it was snowing like crazy on I-5. We had a VW bus, which notoriously have lousy heaters. We lit a campstove on the floor between the front seats (after my safety concerns were squelched) and got amazed looks from bundled up occupants of other VW buses as we rolled along in short sleeves.

ahahahahaha oh god that sounds dangerous and amazing :D

138 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 1:26:52pm

re: #135 BongCrodny

Weren't there instances last year of Republicans going on national TV and praising the mosque as being a positive for the community?

It seems as though nobody was particularly upset about the mosque before Pammy got her war on.

A Public Policy Polling poll taken in October of this year found that only 4% of Republicans supported the mosque.

*Someone* was pretty damn influential in getting the pitchforks-and-torches crowd all riled up.

Oh man I think it was a lot more than just her! Really, any fool could see the political gain from freaking out about that mosque. Yer giving her too much credit, she helped stir shit up and got some gain out of it, but I don't think she was the only one who came up with the idea

139 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 1:50:40pm

re: #23 Alouette

Sadly, Arutz Sheva is no longer on my list of "reliable Israeli media sources" after publishing op eds by Geller and now this crap.

They've got some issues.

Also, if you're publishing an article as "Brian of London", it had better be 1245. Doesn't this man have a last name?

140 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 1:53:59pm

re: #42 sliv_the_eli

Afraid you are painting with an overly broad brush there, Charles. Citing Arutz Sheva as proof that the "settler movement" is moving to the right is an exercise in circularity, because Arutz Sheva represents the right wing of the settler movement. It is like citing Stormfront (or Atlas Shrugs) as proof that the United States is lurching to the extreme right. The reality is that the majority of "settlers" (even if East Jerusalem is not included in the count) are merely suburbanites who chose to take advantage of government subsidies to purchase affordable housing in the suburbs of Jerusalem. The balance of the "settler" population have always been predominantly -- but not exclusively -- right-wing in their political views, and while their views have largely hardened in the wake of the absolute failure of the 2005 withdrawal from Gaza, they have hardly "lurched" to the right recently.

Tend to agree with this, but I am still troubled by the validity that some extreme-right European groups are being given by otherwise sane Israeli figures. It's not a lurch, but some bad people are coming knocking and offering candy.

141 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 1:55:52pm

re: #67 BigPapa

10 foot poles seem to be disappearing nowadays. She drove the Park51 animosity with a steady campaign through her website then was quoted and interviewed by legitimate news outlets. She was not coincidental, she was instrumental.

She organized the damn thing!

142 Turkey Jihad  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 2:24:44pm

This is just from today - today! - over at the Harpy's website. I swear, I couldn't even make this shit up. People actually take this freak seriously?

1.)DAILY KOS NAMES PAMELA GELLER: BIGGEST ISLAMOPHOBIC BIGOT OF 2010

I am hugely flattered. The KOS is a cancer, singular in its focus to destroy America. The hatred of the good for being good. I am the silver cross to their Dracula.

"Islamophobia" is blasphemy, enforcement of the sharia. These hateful tools are carrying water for the most radical, extreme ideology on the planet.

2.) TIME Magazine nominated the radical slumlord Feisal Rauf for man of the year because he intends to build Mecca on the graveyard of the vaporized bodies of proud, hardworking Americans slaughtered on 911 in the name of allah and Islamic jihad.

NBC has named waiter-turned-Ground Zero mosque grifter/developer Sharif El-Gamal as their person of the year, because of his role in trying to erect a 15-story middle finger to America on the Ground Zero cemetery.


3.) 350,000 FATWAS ISSUED IN 2010 BY MUSLIM ..... AHEM ....SCHOLARS

The stupidity is breathtaking. Taking it seriously? Dangerous. And they do, 'deed they do, yes they do, you know they do. Obama say, "Respect it!"

4.) Obama say, "Respect it!" Ground Zero mosqueteer Daisy the Khan say, "the era of extremism is over!" Geller say, "Defeat the enemy!"

5.) SHOCK AUDIO: NEW BLACK PANTHER LEADER REVEALS COLLUSION AT NYC MEETING WITH AHMADINEJAD TO BUILD ALLIANCE, SECURE RAW MATERIALS AND OVERTHROW AMERICA

It is important to remember Obama's close ties to these haters and subversives. Louis Farrakhan and Obama have a long history, and it was Obama's Department of Justice that refused to prosecute the Black Panthers who were threatening white voters in Philly.

This is a terrible thing, but it was expected. What makes it deadly is that Obama is in the White House.

There you have it. -Kid A

143 Charles Johnson  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 3:59:37pm

re: #87 stevemcg

So for the last time, I will just simply try to restate my point that I think you guys worry about her too much.

It's very easy for you to start your own blog, you know. Takes about five minutes at wordpress.com. Then you can get all the credit for writing about exactly what you think is important.

And then everyone can come over to your blog and tell you why you shouldn't be writing about those things.

144 lostlakehiker  Thu, Dec 30, 2010 4:49:14pm

re: #72 stevemcg

You know I'm not sure we're communicating. I think I was pretty clear early in this thread. The overwhelming majority of what I hear about Pamela Geller comes from LGF. I guess I am looking at a second order media frenzy. The wingnuts I see and hear are probably whipped up by her. I would doubt that she has that sole claim to fame however. I'm sure there are lots of sources to get your hate on. Most people probably had hatred in their hearts to begin with. I did at one time. All Geller does is provide reinforcement. I don't think she's a movement leader or anything like that.

Geller isn't a total nonentity, going by the fact that there's a wikipedia article about her. She isn't necessarily all sweetness and light, going by this paragraph in that article:

In 2007, Geller was listed in business records as a part-owner of Universal Auto World, a Long Island automobile dealership connected with the murders of two Brooklyn policemen and a car salesman in connection with an elaborate automobile purchasing scheme which enabled drug dealers, pimps and gang members to buy luxury cars while keeping their names from being recorded on motor vehicle registrations. Her ex-husband, Michael Oshry, was reported to be under investigation. Pamela Geller denies that she owned part of the dealership.

145 ihateronpaul  Fri, Dec 31, 2010 9:18:59am

Shame on geller and anyone that thinks that supporting her is an "ends justify the means" type of situation


This article has been archived.
Comments are closed.

Jump to top

Create a PageThis is the LGF Pages posting bookmarklet. To use it, drag this button to your browser's bookmark bar, and title it 'LGF Pages' (or whatever you like). Then browse to a site you want to post, select some text on the page to use for a quote, click the bookmarklet, and the Pages posting window will appear with the title, text, and any embedded video or audio files already filled in, ready to go.
Or... you can just click this button to open the Pages posting window right away.
Last updated: 2023-04-04 11:11 am PDT
LGF User's Guide RSS Feeds

Help support Little Green Footballs!

Subscribe now for ad-free access!Register and sign in to a free LGF account before subscribing, and your ad-free access will be automatically enabled.

Donate with
PayPal
Cash.app
Recent PagesClick to refresh
The Pandemic Cost 7 Million Lives, but Talks to Prevent a Repeat Stall In late 2021, as the world reeled from the arrival of the highly contagious omicron variant of the coronavirus, representatives of almost 200 countries met - some online, some in-person in Geneva - hoping to forestall a future worldwide ...
Cheechako
4 days ago
Views: 130 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1
Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ...
Cheechako
2 weeks ago
Views: 294 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1