Palin: Ignorant and Proud of It

She knows her audience

PoliticsJanuary 2011 • Views: 29,204

Alaskan politician Andrew Halcro has a very interesting post on the appeal of Sarah Palin.

In April of 2006, the morning after a debate at the University of Alaska Fairbanks, Palin and I were sharing a cup of coffee at the Captain Cook. “I hear you spout off facts and figures with no notes and I’m just amazed, but then I look�out over the audience and I wonder if it really makes a difference”, she said to me.

Palin�was correct.�Having a grasp of the issues and facts�didn’t make a damn bit of difference.

Voters loved Palin for who she was, not what she knew and therefore gave her a pass and accepted her glittering generalities as public policy gold. All�her vague talk about new energy and transparency were more important than specifics on improving education or public safety.

(h/t Stanley Sea.)

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101 comments

mr.fusion Thu, Jan 27, 2011 11:56:41am

Palin was correct. Having a grasp of the issues and facts didn’t make a damn bit of difference.

If the goal is just to get elected.....it doesn't make a bit of difference

If the goal is to put the most qualified people into positions of leadership........??????

theheat Thu, Jan 27, 2011 11:56:49am

Voters loved Palin for who she was

Odd, I knew what she was the second she opened her mouth, and I find everything about the woman revolting. That hasn't changed because she wrote a book or found Africa on a globe.

prairiefire Thu, Jan 27, 2011 11:57:02am

Alaska made her and they can keep her!

Kragar Thu, Jan 27, 2011 11:58:12am

People don't want facts from a speaker, they want confidence.

Even when that confidence is horribly misplaced.

Gus Thu, Jan 27, 2011 11:59:37am

"There's a sucker born every minute." P. T. Barnum

elizajane Thu, Jan 27, 2011 11:59:45am

Only cares about getting elected. Doesn't want to bother with having an actual platform, or policy goals, much less a factual basis on which such policy and goals might be founded.
You can't say she doesn't represent today's Republican party perfectly.

Stanghazi Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:00:01pm

Thanks for the Hat Tip Charles!

I'm so glad you posted this, what an amazing post by Halcro.

Surabaya Stew Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:01:15pm

re: #3 prairiefire

Alaska made her and they can keep her!

By way of Idaho and Hawaii, just sayin'.

Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:04:01pm

Of course she's proud of her ignorance. It's the entire reason Republicans love her so much. Intelligent discussion of policy issues is for elitists who've been indoctrinated by leftist colleges.

bluecheese Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:05:29pm

re: #7 Stanley Sea

I'm so glad you posted this, what an amazing post by Halcro.

yeah, i saw this yesterday, posted in one of the threads here on lgf. Definitely worth a read.

I agree with the notion that Palin's popularity says more about voters, than about Palin.

mr.fusion Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:05:33pm

re: #9 Killgore Trout

Of course she's proud of her ignorance. It's the entire reason Republicans love her so much. Intelligent discussion of policy issues is for elitists who've been indoctrinated by leftist colleges.

Oh there's no doubt she's proud of it.....and she has the uncanny ability to make her ignorance into some sort of endearing quality amongst her supporters, ie: "Going Rogue," the notes on her hand, refudiate, etc.......

Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:06:14pm

In a land of dimwits, the half-wit is queen.

Kragar Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:06:15pm

During boards when I was in the service, one of the key bits of advice was always "Keep your bearing and stay confident, even when you know you're wrong." They would rather have a confident and strong wrong answer than a correct answer that someone struggled to produce.

Of course the byproduct of this is you get an extremely proficient group of bullshit artists.

engineer cat Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:07:35pm

Win The Future

i think the administration has got on the right track here in terms of rhetoric. i look forward to them putting the wingnuttian rhetoric storm on the defensive

"let them talk about what we can't do - we'll talk about what we can do!"

Kragar Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:07:48pm

re: #12 Charles

In a land of dimwits, the half-wit is queen.

Is the half-wit one of her aides?

Fozzie Bear Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:07:48pm

re: #9 Killgore Trout

Of course she's proud of her ignorance. It's the entire reason Republicans love her so much. Intelligent discussion of policy issues is for elitists who've been indoctrinated by leftist colleges.

If you think that truth is a sort of axiomatic, a priori knowledge, that it is something that you are born with, it is common sense, then it makes perfect sense to think that those who attempt to find truth by induction and deduction are fools.

Why go 'out there' to get what you can find right here in the bible? Why complicate that which should be simple?

It's all internally consistent if you reject the concept of knowledge through exploration in favor of knowledge through virtue.

Tigger2 Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:08:50pm

Really says a lot about the state of our country.

"Palin was correct. Having a grasp of the issues and facts didn’t make a damn bit of difference".

It's embarrassing. The death of American Exceptionalism and the birth of American Moronism.
My made up word to describe the far right. (moronism)

Kragar Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:09:32pm

Is it wrong to want an edition of Celebrity Jeopardy featuring Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, and Glenn Beck?

Romantic Heretic Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:10:26pm

re: #18 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Is it wrong to want an edition of Celebrity Jeopardy featuring Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, and Glenn Beck?

I can feel my mind warping at the very thought.

calochortus Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:10:31pm

re: #18 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'll take "Wishful Thinking" for $500.

Fozzie Bear Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:11:33pm

re: #17 Tigger2

Exceptionalism is an early form of 'moronism', really. Exceptionalism is an appeal to innate virtue. "We do it better because we are special" is a rejection of the concept that there are discernable patterns in history and in nature that apply to us just as they apply to the rest of the world.

It's a rejection of reason.

reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:12:24pm

re: #13 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You've read my resume......?/
Actually ..I've learned that if I am not confident to the task at hand,I'm better off admiting it and asking for help!
Beats the shit out of damaging 10-20 thousand dollars of equipment.
Politics SHOULD be treated the same..Never the less this is what we get!

zora Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:12:47pm

from the link:

During an August 2006 candidates forum, opponent John Binkley asked Palin what her vision was for the University of Alaska. For the next forty five seconds Palin prattled on about travelling Alaska, talking to Alaskans. "I've been travelling the state in a Jetta, not a jet (an obvious swipe at former Governor Murkowski's ill-fated jet) and they understand the importance of education."

However, nowhere in the answer did she ever give any indication that she had an inkling of the role the University played in Alaska's future. In return, the audience swooned, as if she had just uncovered the cure for cancer

word salad and mean girl routine. this should only get you so far.

there was a pretty girl in sons physics class last year who made it through the whole year by sponging info from the guys in her class and finished the year with a b in ap physics. i told my son that this will only last for so long. eventually this will catch up to her. i can dream, right.

PhillyPretzel Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:13:02pm

re: #17 Tigger2
The word moronism does exist. [Link: www.thefreedictionary.com...]

Gus Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:14:00pm

Astrology, creationism, magic, homeopathy, ESP, Sarah Palin...

mr.fusion Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:14:25pm

Reminds me of this quote:

"He's a guy who a decade ago, here in Austin, 15 years ago, in fact, plotted the planning for George Bush's gubernatorial race and said, 'I can make him president of the United States,'" said Wayne Slater, author of "Bush's Brain: How Karl Rove Made George W. Bush."

Not: "Here's a guy who should be President of the United States." but "I can make him President of the United States."

It gets infuriating if you think about it too much....

calochortus Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:14:37pm

re: #22 reloadingisnotahobby

You've read my resume...?/
Actually ..I've learned that if I am not confident to the task at hand,I'm better off admiting it and asking for help!
Beats the shit out of damaging 10-20 thousand dollars of equipment.
Politics SHOULD be treated the same..Never the less this is what we get!

How will the economy ever come back if people don't go right ahead and damage stuff. Repair shops will go out of business if we're careful.

Tigger2 Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:14:38pm

re: #24 PhillyPretzel
I couldn't find it in the dictionary I checked.

PhillyPretzel Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:14:38pm

re: #25 Gus 802
They go together.

PhillyPretzel Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:15:28pm

re: #28 Tigger2
That is okay.

[deleted] Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:15:48pm

theheat Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:15:55pm

re: #23 zora

i told my son that this will only last for so long. eventually this will catch up to her. i can dream, right.

Well, it means that by cheating and lying and manipulating to substitute intelligence, she could grow up to wind up on the GOP's presidential ticket.

That actually happened, you know ;-)

reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:16:25pm

re: #27 calochortus

Believe me ...my job is secure without "accidentally" breaking
things!!LOL

theheat Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:16:51pm

re: #31 MurphysMom

Please don't let it stop you from another illuminating contribution.

Kragar Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:17:13pm

re: #22 reloadingisnotahobby

You've read my resume...?/
Actually ..I've learned that if I am not confident to the task at hand,I'm better off admiting it and asking for help!
Beats the shit out of damaging 10-20 thousand dollars of equipment.
Politics SHOULD be treated the same..Never the less this is what we get!

The good old days at the call center

Caller: "We're having a problem with our network connection."
Tech: "Yes sir, we're aware of the issue and our techs are working on it right now."
Caller: "OK, thanks." (hangs up)
Tech (yelling to the office) "DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON AT BUILDING 3?"

PhillyPretzel Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:18:09pm

re: #35 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
funny but true.

Obdicut Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:18:24pm

re: #31 MurphysMom

Why not comment in the many, many threads that aren't about Palin?

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Kragar Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:19:11pm

re: #31 MurphysMom

I know, right. Maybe if she would STFU and not but into the middle of every conversation, competent people could get some work done.

Ming Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:19:54pm

I believe that some part of Palin's appeal is due to the simple desperation of so many people who are out of work and worried about losing their homes. In a country that is working for 90% of other people, but not working for them, they may look to Sarah Palin to be the "joker" who upends the card table, and deals from a new deck. I suspect that many people are well-aware that Sarah Palin is not qualified to be President, but in a country that has really left them by the wayside, her mental illness is actually an ADVANTAGE. I felt this myself, when I was looking for work last year: the current system is not working for me, and anything would be better than this. Sad but true. The times call the people, and these difficult times are calling to Sarah Palin. Bottoms up!

Tigger2 Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:19:59pm

re: #30 PhillyPretzel
I really should have used "Moranism" to describe the right as it is now.

Kragar Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:20:09pm

re: #39 engineer dog

i, for one, will take her at her word when she says she was not born in kenya

But have you seen a heat map of her birth certificate yet?

Have you?

HAVE YOU?

reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:20:12pm

re: #39 engineer dog

i, for one, will take her at her word when she says she was not born in kenya

But blaming her dad for missing her shot?? I CALL BULLSHIT!!

SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:22:17pm

re: #8 Surabaya Stew

By way of Idaho and Hawaii, just sayin'.

Oh, she wasn't in Hawaii long enough to blame them. That would be like blaming Massachusetts for how I turned out.

calochortus Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:22:20pm

re: #33 reloadingisnotahobby

Believe me ...my job is secure without "accidentally" breaking
things!!LOL

See? Another selfish "reality based" person. Sure your job is secure if you don't wreck things, but what about the guy who would be fixing the damage or making the replacement? What about the rest of the world? ///

Fozzie Bear Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:23:48pm

re: #41 Ming

I believe that some part of Palin's appeal is due to the simple desperation of so many people who are out of work and worried about losing their homes. In a country that is working for 90% of other people, but not working for them, they may look to Sarah Palin to be the "joker" who upends the card table, and deals from a new deck. I suspect that many people are well-aware that Sarah Palin is not qualified to be President, but in a country that has really left them by the wayside, her mental illness is actually an ADVANTAGE. I felt this myself, when I was looking for work last year: the current system is not working for me, and anything would be better than this. Sad but true. The times call the people, and these difficult times are calling to Sarah Palin. Bottoms up!

I think this hits the heart of it. When people feel disenfranchised and angry, they are more likely to want a bomb thrower to burn it all down than they are to want a fixer with a nuanced understanding of complex problems. If a system has repeatedly failed you, do you want to fix it, or destroy it?

Yashmak Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:24:15pm

"Palin: Ignorant and Proud of It"

In other news; The Sky is Still Blue.

[deleted] Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:24:26pm

calochortus Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:25:30pm

re: #41 Ming

I'm sure that is true for some people, but there are actually people out there who are so distrustful of educated people and "elites" (and who probably feel inferior) that they willingly support a totally unqualified person just as an exercise in people power. Or something.

reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:25:51pm

re: #47 Fozzie Bear

If a system has repeatedly failed you, do you want to fix it, or destroy it?

...You'll need to be a little more specific ......./

Girth Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:26:53pm

re: #18 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Is it wrong to want an edition of Celebrity Jeopardy featuring Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, and Glenn Beck?

Every category has to be about history, politics, energy, and the Bible.

Just so everyone watching will finally understand just how little these people actually know about the subjects in which they claim to be experts.

Talking Point Detective Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:27:25pm

re: #41 Ming

Fozzie Bear Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:27:26pm

I'm just saying, angry people who have been fucked over repeatedly are more likely to say "fuck it, burn it all down" than they are to say "lets try one more time, maybe it will get better".

That the right is angry at all the wrong people is missing the point. They are angry, and rightfully so. They just don't understand who fucked them, and why.

[deleted] Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:27:41pm

Talking Point Detective Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:30:31pm

re: #41 Ming

In a country that is working for 90% of other people, but not working for them, they may look to Sarah Palin to be the "joker" who upends the card table, and deals from a new deck. I suspect that many people are well-aware that Sarah Palin is not qualified to be President, but in a country that has really left them by the wayside, her mental illness is actually an ADVANTAGE.

The majority of her supporters are white and middle class. How is the country "not working for them?" They are hardly the segment of American society that has been "left by the wayside."

The paranoia of Palin-supporters, and their fear of "tyrants" such as Obama, are purely delusional.

Fozzie Bear Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:30:57pm

I wish researchok were here right now. A shrink would totally pick up what i'm throwing down.

The problems with american politics are largely psychological, I think. This is emotional purging on a large scale. The country is hung over and throwing up, and many of us can't remember WTF happened to get us here. We just know we got run over.

Renaissance_Man Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:31:33pm

re: #55 wrenchwench

Actually, I think Palinoia is a funny word.

Gus Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:32:14pm

Welcome to Palin's Murica!

Lawsuit Filed Against Evolution

Basically this crackpot is saying that since evolution is "atheistic" and "Atheism is a religion" therefore teaching evolution is like teaching a religion "And it is illegal to teach religion in the public schools."

Girth Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:32:47pm

Now I've got SNL's Celebrity Jeopardy in my head.

Suck it, Trebek!

Fozzie Bear Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:32:59pm

re: #56 Talking Point Detective

The majority of her supporters are white and middle class. How is the country "not working for them?" They are hardly the segment of American society that has been "left by the wayside."

The paranoia of Palin-supporters, and their fear of "tyrants" such as Obama, are purely delusional.

That they are delusional is beside the point. The middle class is taking it up the ass right now, and if you don't have any real understanding of why that is happening, it makes sense (on a visceral level) to identify with other pissed off people.

Have you ever been really really pissed off, and had someone very calmly try to tell you that you are getting worked up over nothing? It doesn't go over well.

wrenchwench Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:33:02pm

re: #58 Renaissance_Man

Actually, I think Palinoia is a funny word.

Granted, but it is not enough to redeem the whine.

Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:33:14pm

The idea behind American Exceptionism is that our favored position is due to the notion that we are God's Chosen Country, and that in order to retain His grace, our laws and ways must reflect Biblical teachings.

Thus the level of level of scientific, academic or cultural achievement is secondary to being ideologically pure and true. And that image is what Sarah embodies in her politics.

Varek Raith Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:34:35pm

re: #59 Gus 802

Welcome to Palin's Murica!

Lawsuit Filed Against Evolution

Basically this crackpot is saying that since evolution is "atheistic" and "Atheism is a religion" therefore teaching evolution is like teaching a religion "And it is illegal to teach religion in the public schools."

Can I sue them for being stoopid???

reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:35:57pm

re: #64 Varek Raith

Can I sue them for being stoopid???

Go for it!!
Here ...would you like some Olives??
/

Ericus58 Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:37:01pm

re: #57 Fozzie Bear

I wish researchok were here right now. A shrink would totally pick up what i'm throwing down.

The problems with american politics are largely psychological, I think. This is emotional purging on a large scale. The country is hung over and throwing up, and many of us can't remember WTF happened to get us here. We just know we got run over.

Between this post and your #54 - you are hitting it out of the park. Good observation, well put.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:37:28pm

re: #21 Fozzie Bear

Exceptionalism is an early form of 'moronism', really. Exceptionalism is an appeal to innate virtue. "We do it better because we are special" is a rejection of the concept that there are discernable patterns in history and in nature that apply to us just as they apply to the rest of the world.

It's a rejection of reason.

I'm gonna love hearing "exceptionalism" thrown around by rubes in the next 50 years as China starts eating our lunch in every possible way

Sionainn Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:37:48pm

re: #59 Gus 802

Welcome to Palin's Murica!

Lawsuit Filed Against Evolution

Basically this crackpot is saying that since evolution is "atheistic" and "Atheism is a religion" therefore teaching evolution is like teaching a religion "And it is illegal to teach religion in the public schools."

He apparently flunked a logic course.

Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:37:59pm

re: #64 Varek Raith

Evolution is absolutely inconsistent with a literal interpretation of the Bible.

It is not inherently athiestic, there is plenty of room there for a First Mover, provided one does not insist that the Earth was created in six days and that man was literally made of mud by the hand of God.

Renaissance_Man Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:38:19pm

re: #61 Fozzie Bear

That they are delusional is beside the point. The middle class is taking it up the ass right now, and if you don't have any real understanding of why that is happening, it makes sense (on a visceral level) to identify with other pissed off people.

Have you ever been really really pissed off, and had someone very calmly try to tell you that you are getting worked up over nothing? It doesn't go over well.

I think the point is that many of them are pissed off for no real good reason. Sure, many may be out of work and being screwed by the same wealth transfer system that is busily turning them into cultists that will vote against their best interests to maintain the same system that's screwing them. That's sad and frankly evil. But many aren't in dire straits. Many cultists are in fact doing quite well, all things considered. Yet they are angry, and they are angry because the media world they inhabit specifically tries to make them angry, because emotion creates loyal followers. Furthermore, emotion, even anger, is addictive, and so they continue to seek out the media that makes them angry.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:38:33pm

re: #61 Fozzie Bear

That they are delusional is beside the point. The middle class is taking it up the ass right now, and if you don't have any real understanding of why that is happening, it makes sense (on a visceral level) to identify with other pissed off people.

Have you ever been really really pissed off, and had someone very calmly try to tell you that you are getting worked up over nothing? It doesn't go over well.

this forever

calochortus Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:41:48pm

re: #59 Gus 802

This nutcase would be a Pennsylvanian...

JeffM70 Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:42:18pm

It's increasingly clear with Palin's and Bachman's popularity that the Tea Party crowd, like them, don't let facts get in the way of believing whatever they want. Thanks to them history is rewritten every other day.

calochortus Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:45:54pm

re: #68 Sionainn

He apparently flunked a logic course.

Does this mean that as an atheist I get to start an Atheist Church and start getting tax deductions?

These people generally fail to think of religion in terms other than the choice between True Belief and atheism. Reminds me of some faith based effort or other that quietly went away when one of the first interested parties was trying to start a Wiccan nursery school. Not what had been expected I guess.

Henchman 25 Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:46:59pm

re: #59 Gus 802

Image: thestupiditburns.jpg

Talking Point Detective Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:47:47pm

re: #61 Fozzie Bear

That they are delusional is beside the point. The middle class is taking it up the ass right now, and if you don't have any real understanding of why that is happening, it makes sense (on a visceral level) to identify with other pissed off people.

Have you ever been really really pissed off, and had someone very calmly try to tell you that you are getting worked up over nothing? It doesn't go over well.

Sure - more people are out of work since Obama took office, but is the quality of life for your average Palin-supporter really significantly worse than it was prior to January 2008?

Where was their deeply felt "outrage" about "tyranny" at that point?

I just don't believe that the majority of her supporters are angry about anything other than a deluded feeling of persecution - at the hands of heathenish socialists. I don't think they were pissed off, and then found a target.

I think they first found their target and then found their anger.

Real wages for the middle class have been stagnant for decades. They've been working longer hours with less time off and had no more discretionary income to show for it for quite a while. Why do they suddenly have this need to identify with others who are viscerally pissed off?

Talking Point Detective Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:49:12pm

re: #70 Renaissance_Man

I think the point is that many of them are pissed off for no real good reason. Sure, many may be out of work and being screwed by the same wealth transfer system that is busily turning them into cultists that will vote against their best interests to maintain the same system that's screwing them. That's sad and frankly evil. But many aren't in dire straits. Many cultists are in fact doing quite well, all things considered. Yet they are angry, and they are angry because the media world they inhabit specifically tries to make them angry, because emotion creates loyal followers. Furthermore, emotion, even anger, is addictive, and so they continue to seek out the media that makes them angry.

What he said.

Henchman 25 Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:49:34pm

re: #72 calochortus

I'm a Pennsylvanian. :(

prairiefire Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:50:51pm

I think that polarizing political figures like Palin and Bachman have always been a part of America. They receive instant notoriety through our faster paced media system.
I think it is great I am able to discuss them with other people who see them the same way I do. I would rather be fighting their political ambitions today than handing out pamphlets in the city square 100 years ago.

calochortus Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:52:46pm

re: #76 Talking Point Detective

Some of it may have to do with the drop in real estate prices. Even though wages were stagnant, their house's value was climbing practically daily. They felt like they were getting ahead even though everyone else's property values were going up too, so they couldn't realize the gains. They'd just have to put the appreciated value into another equally appreciated property. Now they've "lost money" and have realized they aren't making a lot of money elsewhere.

webevintage Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:53:07pm

re: #18 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Is it wrong to want an edition of Celebrity Jeopardy featuring Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, and Glenn Beck?

"I'll take Spudnut for $200 Alex".

calochortus Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:54:00pm

re: #78 SteelPH

I'm a Pennsylvanian. :(

My condolences.//

We lived in the Lancaster area for nearly a decade. Beautiful area. Much to recommend it, but honestly, its good to be back home in the S.F. Bay area.

prairiefire Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:54:42pm

re: #81 webevintage

"I'll take Spudnut for $200 Alex".

Oh my gosh, "Spudnut" on Greta last night. So funny. I wondered if I was watching Saturday Night Live on Wed. night.

Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:55:51pm

re: #80 calochortus

It did not seem to faze people that real estate went up 30% in a period when the economy only grew by 10%.

Nor did it faze people in places like Arizona that the only money to be made was in housing construction and real estate.

calochortus Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:56:04pm

I'm out for a while. Must go donate blood. They love my O- :-)

Talking Point Detective Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:56:20pm

re: #80 calochortus

Some of it may have to do with the drop in real estate prices. Even though wages were stagnant, their house's value was climbing practically daily. They felt like they were getting ahead even though everyone else's property values were going up too, so they couldn't realize the gains. They'd just have to put the appreciated value into another equally appreciated property. Now they've "lost money" and have realized they aren't making a lot of money elsewhere.

Good point.

Talking Point Detective Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:57:32pm

re: #82 calochortus

My condolences.//

We lived in the Lancaster area for nearly a decade. Beautiful area. Much to recommend it, but honestly, its good to be back home in the S.F. Bay area.

Just need to rub it in, don't you?

I love it when people from S.F. complain endlessly about how cold it is when it's 50 degrees out.

F'n wimps.

mr.fusion Thu, Jan 27, 2011 12:59:42pm

re: #80 calochortus

Some of it may have to do with the drop in real estate prices. Even though wages were stagnant, their house's value was climbing practically daily. They felt like they were getting ahead even though everyone else's property values were going up too, so they couldn't realize the gains. They'd just have to put the appreciated value into another equally appreciated property. Now they've "lost money" and have realized they aren't making a lot of money elsewhere.

Or maybe it's just a bunch of old white people pissed of that there's a black man in the White House and that there will be no ethnic majority by 2040.

CarleeCork Thu, Jan 27, 2011 1:00:07pm

re: #83 prairiefire

Oh my gosh, "Spudnut" on Greta last night. So funny. I wondered if I was watching Saturday Night Live on Wed. night.

Look for that to show up on Saturday Night Live.

calochortus Thu, Jan 27, 2011 1:01:06pm

re: #87 Talking Point Detective

Just need to rub it in, don't you?

I love it when people from S.F. complain endlessly about how cold it is when it's 50 degrees out.

F'n wimps.

Yes, yes we are wimps-though that damp cold will go through you like nothing else-and I sort of know where of I speak as we also lived in Denver for a number of years and I've done the sub zero stuff too.

Now I'm really out

freetoken Thu, Jan 27, 2011 1:01:38pm

re: #59 Gus 802

Welcome to Palin's Murica!

Lawsuit Filed Against Evolution

Basically this crackpot is saying that since evolution is "atheistic" and "Atheism
is a religion" therefore teaching evolution is like teaching a religion "And it is illegal to teach religion in the public schools."

Thanos has a Page up about it, to which I just added a comment giving some background to an attempt by this guy Ritter in 2006 to raise a brouhaha in PA over the teaching of evolution, encouraged by the Constitution Party in his efforts.

Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Jan 27, 2011 1:08:37pm

re: #69 ralphieboy

Evolution is absolutely inconsistent with a literal interpretation of the Bible.

It is not inherently athiestic, there is plenty of room there for a First Mover, provided one does not insist that the Earth was created in six days and that man was literally made of mud by the hand of God.

The Bible is inconsistent with a literal interpretation of the Bible.

Sol Berdinowitz Thu, Jan 27, 2011 1:12:43pm

re: #92 oaktree

The Bible is inconsistent with a literal interpretation of the Bible.

That point is lost on the literalists.

Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Jan 27, 2011 1:20:39pm

re: #81 webevintage

"I'll take Spudnut for $200 Alex".

Is "Spudnut" some sort of scientific genetic engineering monster cross-breed of potato and peanut that's tunneling it's away across Middle America sucking out all the intelligence and incorporating it into it's own gesalt mind? (With intentions of running for, and winning, the Presidency in 2016)

Feline Fearless Leader Thu, Jan 27, 2011 1:23:45pm

re: #85 calochortus

I'm out for a while. Must go donate blood. They love my O- :-)

You're popular despite your lack of yummy attributes like I get from my AB+ blood.

;)

Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jan 27, 2011 1:31:22pm

Victims Family - Proud to be ignorant
(Lyrics only, 'cuz it ain't on YouTube)

I'm proud to be ignorant
I never listen to a word that you say
Because if I did I'd have to learn something new and then
uh ...
that might make me feel uncomfortable.
I destroy what I can't understand
It makes me feel so much bigger.
Because everything I know is just engraved in stone and
exactly
like I told you in the first place.
The people who don't think or believe like me
should all be gathered up on a desert island
so that I can drop a bomb on them
but wait a minute ... not me!
I'm proud to be ignorant.

tomg51spence Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:05:57pm

Voters loved ~~Palin~~ Obama for who ~~she~~ he was, not what ~~she~~ he knew and therefore gave ~~her~~ him a pass and accepted ~~her~~ his glittering generalities as public policy gold. All ~~her~~ his vague talk about new energy and transparency were more important than specifics on improving education or public safety or creating jobs or reducing the deficit or ......

FIFY, so it applies to the SOTU.
Running and ducking for cover....
And going home. I'll peek out again tomorrow morning.

scienceisreal Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:16:03pm

This feels a bit like reading the Matt Taibbi article from last year, Mad Dog Palin.

Romantic Heretic Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:41:12pm

re: #59 Gus 802

Welcome to Palin's Murica!

Lawsuit Filed Against Evolution

Basically this crackpot is saying that since evolution is "atheistic" and "Atheism is a religion" therefore teaching evolution is like teaching a religion "And it is illegal to teach religion in the public schools."

Ow! My jaw hit the floor. Hard.

100

tomg51spence Fri, Jan 28, 2011 5:06:13am

Re:97, currently at -12 approval...
Well done, lizards. At least 12 people voted with disapproval. No nasty stuff.
Knew I liked you, even if I often disagree.

101

bink Sat, Jan 29, 2011 9:39:43am

re: #97 tomg51spence

FIFY, so it applies to the SOTU.
Running and ducking for cover...
And going home. I'll peek out again tomorrow morning.

Although this topic doesn't much interest me, I clicked on comments just to see if someone was brave enough to do this. You don't have to like Palin (I don't) to enjoy the irony. Thanks.

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