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1 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 8, 2011 12:55:00pm

Lakers' sweep open?

2 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 12:55:02pm

JJ Cale
Crazy Momma

Youtube Video
3 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:00:18pm

End of 1st quarter: Lakers 23, Mavericks 27.

4 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:01:31pm

This game is killing me. Oh well.

5 HappyBenghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:02:07pm

You know I like college ball but I can't get in to the NBA. Maybe it's because the local team (Wizards) suck but I don't know. Still my favorite sport to play though.

6 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:02:21pm

Norton anti-virus stinks. I've been having progressively worse computer troubles for months. Root Directory damage, windows crashes, etc. Norton scans turned up nothing. Last night I ran an Ad Aware scan (free version). It found malware within 5 minutes. After a quick reboot all problems solved.

7 Alexzander  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:03:10pm

re: #6 Killgore Trout

Yeah Norton has been trash for a few years.

8 Digital Display  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:03:33pm

re: #3 Charles

End of 1st quarter: Lakers 23, Mavericks 27.

Hope the Lakers lose...Seems like every June I have to Congratulate your team
/

9 HappyBenghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:03:37pm

OT to basketball but my brother who's been in Kauai for the last couple months sent me some photos. Looked like paradise.

10 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:04:02pm

re: #7 Alexzander

Yeah Norton has been trash for a few years.

I'm slow to learn that. What do most people use these days?

11 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:04:59pm

re: #9 HappyWarrior

OT to basketball but my brother who's been in Kauai for the last couple months sent me some photos. Looked like paradise.

It is, pretty much. If you don't mind a lot of rain - that's why it's so green.

12 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:05:29pm

re: #10 Killgore Trout

I'm slow to learn that. What do most people use these days?

I use McAfee on my virtual PCs.

13 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:05:48pm

re: #10 Killgore Trout

I'm slow to learn that. What do most people use these days?

my newest version of Norton is really active and I'm impressed, but you have to have the upgrades...you knew that tho...my newest problem is with Firefox4...I loaded it and now have popup problems

14 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:05:49pm

re: #8 HoosierHoops

Hope the Lakers lose...Seems like every June I have to Congratulate your team
/

What matters more to me is Hawks v. Bulls. Billy Donovan is tweeting - he's gonna be there.

15 Lidane  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:06:13pm

re: #5 HappyWarrior

I've never gotten into basketball. It's just not my thing. I think it's because it moves so damn quickly and I can never follow what's going on. I went to an NBA game once and sat there going "WTF?" every time the whistle blew for this foul or that one because I didn't even see what had happened.

Give me soccer any day. I can follow that. Or UFC fights, because those can be entertaining. Basketball's just not for me.

16 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:06:18pm

I grew into the NBA during the Lakers/Celtics Magic/Larry era. I chose the Celtics. "East Coast Y'all" and all that.

Wasn't nuts about Kareem either. If Airplane! would have come out earlier? Probably would be a different story.

17 HappyBenghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:06:31pm

re: #11 Charles

It is, pretty much. If you don't mind a lot of rain - that's why it's so green.

Yeah, I've heard that about Ireland too. Water looked so inviting. I'm jealous that he can go to the beach daily while the closest beach to me is a 3 1/2 hour drive. Nothing better than the ocean especially in the warmer months.

18 Digital Display  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:07:17pm

re: #12 Charles

I use McAfee on my virtual PCs.

I do also...Of course it is the Enterprise version

19 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:07:45pm

Is Pakistan's spy chief the first to bolt?
Pakistan's chief spook missing in inaction

The head of Pakistan's spy agency that the United States has informally declared as a terrorist outfit is missing amid calls for his resignation over the Osama bin laden episode.

Ahmed Shuja Pasha, Director General of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), was reported to have left Pakistan for the United States on "summons" from Washington, but US officials have declined to confirm his arrival or presence here. Some sources indicated Pasha, fearing humiliation or worse, may be meeting with US interlocutors on "neutral" territory in the Gulf or Saudi Arabia.


No news reports of his meetings with US officials. "Or Worse" makes me think he fears he might be arrested. If he really thinks that I doubt he would show up for a meeting with the US anywhere.

20 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:07:49pm

Oh man. Lakers are getting their asses kicked.

21 Digital Display  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:08:03pm

re: #13 albusteve

my newest version of Norton is really active and I'm impressed, but you have to have the upgrades...you knew that tho...my newest problem is with Firefox4...I loaded it and now have popup problems

I hate FF4.. Big mistake to upgrade

22 HappyBenghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:08:21pm

re: #15 Lidane

I've never gotten into basketball. It's just not my thing. I think it's because it moves so damn quickly and I can never follow what's going on. I went to an NBA game once and sat there going "WTF?" every time the whistle blew for this foul or that one because I didn't even see what had happened.

Give me soccer any day. I can follow that. Or UFC fights, because those can be entertaining. Basketball's just not for me.

Now, I can't get in to soccer or hockey as of lot people here in the Northern Virginia area have with the emergence of the Caps the past few years. You brought up UFC though, I enjoy boxing a bit perhaps the most of any individual sport. Baseball was and remains my first love to watch but I enjoy pickup b-ball a lot.

23 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:08:21pm

re: #12 Charles

I use McAfee on my virtual PCs.

McAfee blows chunks, IMO...if your VMs (or any of your regular machines) are running XP, Vista, or 7, I recommend Microsoft Security Essentials. It's pretty good, fairly light on resources, and free from Microsoft.

24 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:08:55pm

re: #12 Charles

I use McAfee on my virtual PCs.

OK, I used to use that a few years back when it used to just show up in packaging when I would buy a new motherboard. Maybe I'll go back to using it.

25 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:09:57pm

re: #20 Charles

Oh man. Lakers are getting their asses kicked.

seems their mental toughness has left them defeated...no way should they be this bad...today they may as well just feed Kobe and see if he can win it alone

26 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:10:00pm

re: #23 talon_262

McAfee blows chunks, IMO...if your VMs (or any of your regular machines) are running XP, Vista, or 7, I recommend Microsoft Security Essentials. It's pretty good, fairly light on resources, and free from Microsoft.

I'll check that out.

27 bratwurst  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:10:03pm

re: #21 HoosierHoops

I hate FF4.. Big mistake to upgrade

Same feeling here...ever since I upgraded on my Mac, I have had problems, especially with Java.

28 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:10:09pm

re: #21 HoosierHoops

I hate FF4.. Big mistake to upgrade

I'm not digging FF4 either. I may revert back to 3.

29 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:10:46pm

re: #21 HoosierHoops

I hate FF4.. Big mistake to upgrade

rather than deal with the pop ups I'm deleting 4 and going back to whatever I had

30 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:10:57pm

re: #23 talon_262

McAfee blows chunks, IMO...if your VMs (or any of your regular machines) are running XP, Vista, or 7, I recommend Microsoft Security Essentials. It's pretty good, fairly light on resources, and free from Microsoft.

Is that the bundle that's already in the windows control panel?

31 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:11:52pm

re: #28 Killgore Trout

How do you revert? I upgraded today and already don't like it.

32 McSpiff  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:12:17pm

re: #29 albusteve

rather than deal with the pop ups I'm deleting 4 and going back to whatever I had

If you don't mind Google... I'm a big fan of chrome.

33 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:12:44pm

re: #24 Killgore Trout

OK, I used to use that a few years back when it used to just show up in packaging when I would buy a new motherboard. Maybe I'll go back to using it.

See my reply to Charles above...with Microsoft Security Essentials being free, there is absolutely little reason to be paying for AV software nowadays. I used to run NOD32, which was and is the best pay-to-play AV out there for Windows and I dropped it when MSE came out of beta and never looked back.

It's that good...get it here.

34 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:13:22pm

re: #32 McSpiff

If you don't mind Google... I'm a big fan of chrome.

I tried it and it was blazing fast at that time....but FF was easier to use

35 sagehen  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:13:28pm

re: #19 Killgore Trout

Is Pakistan's spy chief the first to bolt?
Pakistan's chief spook missing in inaction


No news reports of his meetings with US officials. "Or Worse" makes me think he fears he might be arrested. If he really thinks that I doubt he would show up for a meeting with the US anywhere.

I have a degree of skepticism about the Pakistani govt and intel services, but I'm trying to give them the benefit of the doubt. How long did it take us to catch on to Aldrich Ames? How long did it take the Brits to find out about Kim Philby? It's not beyond the realm of possibility that Pakistan is a good and loyal ally who just needs a little help rooting out their own traitors.

36 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:13:38pm

Five for Five from 3? Wow.

37 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:14:35pm

re: #31 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

How do you revert? I upgraded today and already don't like it.

I just delete the program then go to FF and install whichever one you want

38 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:15:19pm

re: #33 talon_262

See my reply to Charles above...with Microsoft Security Essentials being free, there is absolutely little reason to be paying for AV software nowadays. I used to run NOD32, which was and is the best pay-to-play AV out there for Windows and I dropped it when MSE came out of beta and never looked back.

It's that good...get it here.

Thanks. Despite the pic of the annoying old broad smiling I'm downloading it now. She really should button up that blouse.

39 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:15:19pm

re: #31 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

How do you revert? I upgraded today and already don't like it.

Your local imam can provide you with information and advice.

Oh, the computer? Hell if I know.

40 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:15:41pm

Good grief. Dallas is hitting 3-pointers like crazy.

41 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:16:33pm

re: #30 Killgore Trout

Is that the bundle that's already in the windows control panel?

MSE is not included in any version of Windows, due in part to the potential antitrust headaches that'd cause for MS, no doubt. MSE does supplement/upgrade Windows Defender, which is included in Windows from XP SP2 on up, and puts WD and the AV component in one program to manage it all.

42 Daniel Ballard  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:17:01pm

re: #12 Charles

I use McAfee on my virtual PCs.

Their gold support saved my bacon on two occasions. Their malware department has this never say die attitude that just rocks. Sharp. Onshore and patient.

43 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:17:14pm

re: #40 Charles

Good grief. Dallas is hitting 3-pointers like crazy.

maybe LA is burned out on D....you gotta get out there and defend that shot

44 Lidane  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:17:39pm

re: #22 HappyWarrior

Now, I can't get in to soccer or hockey as of lot people here in the Northern Virginia area have with the emergence of the Caps the past few years.

Heh. Hockey doesn't interest me either, unless I'm watching highlight reels of some fight during a match. Soccer, OTOH, is something I grew up watching and loving, so that goes back a long way for me.

You brought up UFC though, I enjoy boxing a bit perhaps the most of any individual sport. Baseball was and remains my first love to watch but I enjoy pickup b-ball a lot.

See, I got jaded on boxing just because of Don King and all the blatant corruption and bullshit that followed him around. Even now I can't watch boxing anymore.

UFC, OTOH, is freaking awesome. I love it. There's something primal about watching two guys beating the crap out of each other without all the formality of boxing. I'm already making plans to get tickets the next time some sort of MMA event comes to Austin.

Baseball is only fun if I'm actually at the game with friends drinking overpriced beer or smuggling in a flask of booze to pour into my overpriced soda. I used to live right by the Astrodome back when the Astros still played there and the games were dirt cheap. My friends would come to my house and we'd walk to the stadium. We'd get the cheap seats out in center field for something like $5, take booze in our purses, and hang out watching the game. Then we'd stagger back to my place and they'd sleep over so no one had to drive.

I miss those days. It was fun. I haven't been to a baseball game in years. =/

45 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:18:00pm

heh. The Mavs missed a three, but the whistle had blown. Haven't missed from 3 yet.

46 Lidane  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:18:58pm

re: #23 talon_262

McAfee blows chunks, IMO...if your VMs (or any of your regular machines) are running XP, Vista, or 7, I recommend Microsoft Security Essentials. It's pretty good, fairly light on resources, and free from Microsoft.

That's what I've been using since I ditched Vista and upgraded to Windows 7. MSE seems to work really well, since I haven't had any issues with it so far.

47 darthstar  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:19:18pm

Fingers crossed for the Lakers...if they do come back and "three-peat" by going to and winning the Finals, then all the Laker haters can finally just go kiss their own damn asses.

48 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:20:41pm

I luv me these NBA threads ....

Can't wait to see what Magic says about the Lakers at halftime ..... He is gone rip them a new one

49 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:22:05pm

re: #41 talon_262

Oops...need to clarify. Windows Defender/Firewall is the firewall software built into Windows from XP SP2 on up; MSE adds the AV software and upgrades/integrates Windows/Defender/Firewall into MSE so there's one program to manage your security stuff.

50 Lidane  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:22:21pm

Hahaha...a friend of mine on FB just called the game a 3-point clinic. XD

51 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:22:24pm

re: #40 Charles

Good grief. Dallas is hitting 3-pointers like crazy.

Charles ..... Did you see the story I posted on the side about Kobe's wife Vanessa and Pau Gasol?

52 darthstar  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:24:11pm

Gotta love family...oh, let's all go over to your house...we'll be there by noon (which I interpret to mean 1:30)...just got done facebook chatting with my nephew - so I know they're at least another half hour away).

Oh well, my wife has a good attitude about this, and she doesn't let it bother her too much...she just assumed she'd have more time to make sure everyone was sorted at the ball park before coming home...smart woman I married there.

Cheers, everyone...my Disco Biscuits concert is coming to an end...time to start a moe. show and see how far I can get through the first set before everyone arrives.

53 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:26:26pm

Another one!

54 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:27:40pm

D E S T R U C T I O N

Kobe e e e e e where art thou?

55 PhillyPretzel  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:29:15pm

OT: I completely messed up the last page I posted, Is there any way the whole thing can be deleted?

56 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:29:23pm

when you can't shoot, you absolutely have to rebound the ball....I'm not watching it but I'll bet they don't get many second shots....just watching the net roundup

57 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:29:39pm

For the first time in my life I root for the Lakers to make the Finals (because of personal reasons) and they totally have shit the bed.

Pau Gasol's photo should be on the side of a milk carton.

58 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:30:16pm

re: #55 PhillyPretzel

OT: I completely messed up the last page I posted, Is there any way the whole thing can be deleted?

You can delete it yourself -- the little X icon does that. And the pencil icon lets you edit it after posting.

59 PhillyPretzel  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:30:49pm

re: #58 Charles
Okay. Thanks.

60 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:31:16pm

Magic Johnson is going to be PISSED at halftime ... He takes this stuff personally

61 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:33:02pm

re: #47 darthstar

Fingers crossed for the Lakers...if they do come back and "three-peat" by going to and winning the Finals, then all the Laker haters can finally just go kiss their own damn asses.

Do not think it's gonna happen Darth. Unless Phil performs some sort of mind meld at a break.

62 austin_blue  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:33:08pm

re: #35 sagehen

I have a degree of skepticism about the Pakistani govt and intel services, but I'm trying to give them the benefit of the doubt. How long did it take us to catch on to Aldrich Ames? How long did it take the Brits to find out about Kim Philby? It's not beyond the realm of possibility that Pakistan is a good and loyal ally who just needs a little help rooting out their own traitors.

Well, yes, but they were spies and not the most well-known, most visually recognized international terrorist in the world!

63 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:34:31pm

the old Bad Boy Pistons would play you tough and if it started to open up, they'd double the effort and just pound you down while Vinnie The Microwave closed it up again....I remember a game when he had 21 off the bench, all 3's...they beat you in the head game

64 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:35:12pm

re: #51 _RememberTonyC

Charles ... Did you see the story I posted on the side about Kobe's wife Vanessa and Pau Gasol?

huh?

65 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:36:41pm

39 at halftime...whoa, where's the nose plugs?

66 Daniel Ballard  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:37:37pm

re: #33 talon_262

See my reply to Charles above...with Microsoft Security Essentials being free, there is absolutely little reason to be paying for AV software nowadays. I used to run NOD32, which was and is the best pay-to-play AV out there for Windows and I dropped it when MSE came out of beta and never looked back.

It's that good...get it here.

Who do you call if your machine gets infected anyway? It can happen. Mcafee's people saved me from a format and re-install. Now I use their corporate not retail version-Virusscan enterprise 8.1 with the latest patch. I can lock up the registry so tight I have to deactivate that control to install new software. Can the microsoft product do that?

67 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:38:18pm

Lakers have only 5 assists, Bryant 0
there's your problem right there and Magic will say as much

68 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:38:26pm

re: #64 Stanley Sea

huh?

On the LGF pages .... I posted it this morning .... Apparently Pau's former fiancee and Kobe's wife Vannessa are friends and Vannessa may have contributed to the future Mrs. Pau dumping him.

69 sagehen  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:41:21pm

re: #62 austin_blue

Well, yes, but they were spies and not the most well-known, most visually recognized international terrorist in the world!

I'm referring to the people in ISI, whose bosses might not have known they were helping the bad guys.

70 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:41:35pm

re: #68 _RememberTonyC

On the LGF pages ... I posted it this morning ... Apparently Pau's former fiancee and Kobe's wife Vannessa are friends and Vannessa may have contributed to the future Mrs. Pau dumping him.

Ooh, that helps! haha.

71 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:42:36pm

Magic Johnson: "this is the worst I've ever seen the Lakers play in a game that they needed."

72 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:42:57pm

re: #70 Stanley Sea

Ooh, that helps! haha.

Jon Barry just hinted at this ...

73 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:43:10pm
Magic Johnson is going to be PISSED at halftime ... He takes this stuff personally

They are all freaking. It's ovah.

74 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:43:37pm

Magic is fit to be tied ...

75 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:44:35pm

I heard a twitter rumor that the PSA "IT GET'S BETTER" referring to coming out gay and against gay bullying may play during the NBA playoffs. I'm watching for it, and damn, that would be awesome.

76 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:45:14pm

re: #74 _RememberTonyC

Magic is fit to be tied ...

assists
Mavs 20
LA 5

77 Obdicut  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:45:47pm

re: #33 talon_262

Ditto. I'm very unenchanted with Microsoft but Security Essentials is a good, restrained antivirus that plays well with other programs.

78 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:46:34pm

re: #76 albusteve

assists
Mavs 20
LA 5

True dat .... And Dallas has also outscored LA by 30 points just on 3 point shooting .....

DAL 33 pts
LA 3 pts

79 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:47:44pm

re: #77 Obdicut

Ditto. I'm very unenchanted with Microsoft but Security Essentials is a good, restrained antivirus that plays well with other programs.

Oh, I missed these comments. WUB turned me onto MS Security Essentials.

Problem free since.

80 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:48:14pm

re: #78 _RememberTonyC

True dat ... And Dallas has also outscored LA by 30 points just on 3 point shooting ...

DAL 33 pts
LA 3 pts

LA
.368 shooting
LA is getting beat every way

81 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:48:51pm

re: #80 albusteve

LA
.368 shooting
LA is getting beat every way

Yup .... A complete ass kicking in every facet of the game ...

82 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:50:24pm

OK, I'm going to post some tweets


TheMuslimGuy Arsalan Iftikhar

"An attorney at the North Carolina Imams conference asked them to raise hands if FBI has visited them. Almost every imam raised their hand."

83 thecommodore  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:50:46pm

LA's starters have been outscored by Dallas's bench!

Are they channeling the Clippers?

84 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:50:51pm

AngryBlackLady Angry Black Lady

"Happy Mother's Day. Enjoy it while you can since I hope to make sure you die penniless in a free medical clinic. Love, Paul Ryan" #p2 #TFY

85 windsagio  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:51:25pm

re: #84 Stanley Sea

good luck fighting the power of sport :D

86 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:51:32pm

re: #83 thecommodore

LA's starters have been outscored by Dallas's bench!

Are they channeling the Clippers?

LA's entire team has been outscored by the Mavs' bench ... Much worse

87 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:52:59pm

re: #66 Rightwingconspirator

Who do you call if your machine gets infected anyway? It can happen. Mcafee's people saved me from a format and re-install. Now I use their corporate not retail version-Virusscan enterprise 8.1 with the latest patch. I can lock up the registry so tight I have to deactivate that control to install new software. Can the microsoft product do that?

If you want/need that level of control and tech support, then use a paid software suite (IMO, McAfee's corporate client is better than their consumer one by a longshot, Norton's has improved a lot and dropped a lot of bloat, but for the money, NOD32 trumps them both [and most other paid AVs]).

I'm just saying (and I'm not the only geek saying it) that, for most people, paid AV is an unnecessary cost at $25-30+ bucks a year when MSE can do a more than serviceable job in protecting and cleaning most people's systems. MSE may be relatively basic compared to most paid AVs, but for free, it's good enough.

88 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:54:23pm

re: #86 _RememberTonyC

LA's entire team has been outscored by the Mavs' bench ... Much worse

you know, I don't recall ever hearing such a thing, but I've hardly followed the NBA for years...seems incredible, and in the playoffs?

89 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:55:56pm

re: #88 albusteve

you know, I don't recall ever hearing such a thing, but I've hardly followed the NBA for years...seems incredible, and in the playoffs?

I'm sure it has happened before. It means that one team is being dominated and humiliated by the other. I doubt it has happened to the Lakers, but you see it in regular season games sometimes.

90 engineer cat  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:57:14pm

we watch the Lakers try to do the impossible and come back from 0-3.

“The difficult we do immediately. The impossible takes a little longer.”

—Motto of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers during World War II

91 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:57:19pm

Phil should sit Gasol's ass down for the rest of the game .... He has been the worst player on the court.

92 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:57:27pm

re: #88 albusteve

you know, I don't recall ever hearing such a thing, but I've hardly followed the NBA for years...seems incredible, and in the playoffs?

Play-offs?!? You talking about play-offs?!?
-Jim Mora

93 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:59:20pm

re: #89 _RememberTonyC

I'm sure it has happened before. It means that one team is being dominated and humiliated by the other. I doubt it has happened to the Lakers, but you see it in regular season games sometimes.

DAL is gonna 40 assists at this pace...is that a playoff record?...40 assists?....unreal

94 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 1:59:52pm

re: #92 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Play-offs?!? You talking about play-offs?!?
-Jim Mora

That was a classic

95 Digital Display  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:01:18pm

re: #94 _RememberTonyC

That was a classic

yup.. Also got him fired

96 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:02:32pm

re: #95 HoosierHoops

yup.. Also got him fired

It did ..... By my favorite press conference rant is still Allen Iverson on "practice.".

97 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:02:52pm

the LA Bricklayers are in town today!
(yakety sax)

98 Digital Display  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:03:40pm

re: #96 _RememberTonyC

It did ... By my favorite press conference rant is still Allen Iverson on "practice.".

How about..They were who we thought they were

99 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:04:01pm

Dallas better be careful .... If LA trims the lead down to 10 points heading into the fourth quarter, it could still get dicey.

100 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:04:34pm

re: #98 HoosierHoops

How about..They were who we thought they were

Dennis Green!

101 thecommodore  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:05:29pm

re: #86 _RememberTonyC

LA's entire team has been outscored by the Mavs' bench ... Much worse

Ooops, that's what I meant.

102 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:05:35pm

re: #100 _RememberTonyC

Dennis Green!

Paul Brown!

103 Daniel Ballard  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:06:18pm

re: #87 talon_262

Gotcha. Yeah, I want that higher set of controls like locking up the registry. "Access protection" on their menu. And my IT skills are moderate, so I like having someone to call to backstop my settings on the work computers. Let's say there are computer experts or victims that work IT. I call myself a computer victim. Everything I learned was on the run at work. Computer experts OTOH have real training. I'm the drafted goto IT guy work. I want setting that save trouble when somebody does mistakenly click on the wrong email or URL.

104 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:06:20pm

LOL

105 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:06:22pm

re: #102 albusteve

Paul Brown!

Vida Blue

106 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:06:48pm

Jim Mora

107 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:07:06pm

re: #96 _RememberTonyC

It did ... By my favorite press conference rant is still Allen Iverson on "practice.".

Youtube Video
108 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:07:14pm

re: #105 _RememberTonyC

Vida Blue

Randy White!

109 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:07:31pm

re: #107 Stanley Sea

[Video]

Seriously, watch it again. It IS the classic.

110 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:07:33pm

re: #87 talon_262

BTW, since I (and many Windows geeks) hold NOD32 in such high regard for its ease of use, configurability, and high performance, the fact that I myself have switched from it to MSE and also recommend and install MSE on other people's computers that I work on ought to say something.

;-P

111 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:07:43pm

Ryan Leaf?

112 Kragar  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:08:36pm

Oh, Newsmax, dear sweet Newsmax

Al-Qaida Threatened Nuke Strike if bin Laden Killed

"A senior al-Qaida commander claimed that the terrorist group has hidden a nuclear bomb somewhere in Europe which will be detonated if Osama bin Laden is ever caught or assassinated," the newspaper reported.

The claim came to light in classified files released by the WikiLeaks website, according to AFP.

Yes, because we know if AQ had access to a nuke, they would sit on it for years.

113 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:08:38pm

Boring.

114 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:08:38pm

I am laughing

115 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:08:44pm

re: #109 Stanley Sea

How many times can you say "practice"?

Notice, Iverson never played at Carnagie Hall.

116 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:10:17pm

re: #107 Stanley Sea

[Video]

We talkin about practice, man!

Awesome .... Thanks for posting it

117 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:11:14pm

re: #116 _RememberTonyC

We talkin about practice, man!

Awesome ... Thanks for posting it

Love him, love that vid

118 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:11:21pm

re: #108 albusteve

Randy White!

Lewis Black !!

119 Digital Display  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:11:58pm

re: #116 _RememberTonyC

We talkin about practice, man!

Awesome ... Thanks for posting it

I'd have loved to be there for the fight when he kicked his wife out on the street naked...Did he ever do any jail time?
Idiot

120 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:13:02pm

re: #115 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

How many times can you say "practice"?

Notice, Iverson never played at Carnagie Hall.

Perfect makes practice!

121 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:13:55pm

re: #118 _RememberTonyC

Lewis Black !!

Mel Gray!

122 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:14:16pm

Kobe got an assist!
DRINK!

123 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:14:25pm

re: #115 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

How many times can you say "practice"?

Notice, Iverson never played at Carnagie Hall.

You know, you can tune a piano, but you can't tuna fish...

*rimshot*

124 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:14:25pm

I have no idea what's going on with this game, but the potheads next door seem happy.

125 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:14:55pm

re: #119 HoosierHoops

I'd have loved to be there for the fight when he kicked his wife out on the street naked...Did he ever do any jail time?
Idiot

Iverson was a force of nature on the court, but a very f'd up dude off it.

126 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:15:20pm

re: #121 albusteve

Mel Gray!

You win!

127 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:16:05pm

re: #126 _RememberTonyC

You win!

na...it's a tie

128 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:16:12pm

re: #124 SanFranciscoZionist

I have no idea what's going on with this game, but the potheads next door seem happy.

They have money on Dallas :)

129 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:16:26pm

re: #121 albusteve

Mel Gray Joel (and Jennifer) Grey!

FTFY ;-P

130 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:17:32pm

The Mavs have enough points to win this game right now. They could go scoreless in the final quarter and still win the game.

131 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:18:02pm

Kobe has zero pts this quarter

132 Digital Display  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:18:24pm

re: #130 _RememberTonyC

The Mavs have enough points to win this game right now. They could go scoreless in the final quarter and still win the game.

It's a blow out

133 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:19:42pm

when they needed a triple double from Bryant he's
15-2-1
bwahahaha!....SUPERSTAR!

134 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:19:55pm

re: #132 HoosierHoops

It's a blow out

'Hoos .... I have never rooted for the Lakers in my whole life. But this year I wanted them to reach the finals because it would have meant some work for my son in May and June. But now I freaking hate them more than ever.

135 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:19:56pm

Looks like I'm having a computer maintenance day. Norton is gone, Windows Security is installed and already discovered another malicious file.
Now, how to undo the latest Firefox update? I found the update history in the "Advanced" tab but there's no way to delete it? Do I need to uninstall firefox and download the old version again?

136 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:20:11pm

re: #130 _RememberTonyC

The Mavs have enough points to win this game right now. They could go scoreless in the final quarter and still win the game.

I'm guessing there gonna want five or six more three pointers. Freakin' bury the record.

Most three-point field goals, game-playoffs.
20 - Seattle vs. Houston, May 6, 1996

137 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:20:27pm

re: #133 albusteve

when they needed a triple double from Bryant he's
15-2-1
bwahahaha!...SUPERSTAR!

Don't blame Kobe ... Blame Pau Gasol.

138 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:21:01pm

re: #137 _RememberTonyC

Don't blame Kobe ... Blame Pau Gasol.

EXACTLY

139 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:21:39pm

re: #137 _RememberTonyC

Don't blame Kobe ... Blame Pau GasolGeorge Bush.

140 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:22:38pm

re: #135 Killgore Trout

Looks like I'm having a computer maintenance day. Norton is gone, Windows Security is installed and already discovered another malicious file.
Now, how to undo the latest Firefox update? I found the update history in the "Advanced" tab but there's no way to delete it? Do I need to uninstall firefox and download the old version again?

What's so bad with FF4? I more or less skipped most of the FF 3.x releases in favor of Chrome, but came back with FF4 because of Firefox Sync...I like it and have had few issues.

141 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:22:39pm

re: #135 Killgore Trout

Looks like I'm having a computer maintenance day. Norton is gone, Windows Security is installed and already discovered another malicious file.
Now, how to undo the latest Firefox update? I found the update history in the "Advanced" tab but there's no way to delete it? Do I need to uninstall firefox and download the old version again?

definitely uninstall it...who knows what tricks it will leave behind tho

142 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:24:48pm

re: #140 talon_262

What's so bad with FF4? I more or less skipped most of the FF 3.x releases in favor of Chrome, but came back with FF4 because of Firefox Sync...I like it and have had few issues.

maybe it's accumulative from one issue to the next...I upgraded and now am getting popups....even when I hit 'new comments' here at LGF

143 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:26:17pm

Kobe's entire 3rd qtr contribution...one assist, for a total of one
epic fail

144 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:26:53pm

Did you all see the SNL Undeclared GOP candidate's debate last night?

Oh so funny. Really, they do politics best.

From Huff Po - Sarah Palin V. Donald Trump debate etc.

145 reine.de.tout  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:27:17pm

I like Firefox, but I found it unusable for me, it seemed to be susceptible to all sorts of malicious stuff, that I could not get off my computer unless I took it in to Geek Squad. I'd uninstall, reinstall, read all the stuff, do all the "fixes" - no good.

Chrome or Safari are now my top 2 choices.

146 Digital Display  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:27:47pm

re: #142 albusteve

maybe it's accumulative from one issue to the next...I upgraded and now am getting popups...even when I hit 'new comments' here at LGF

Me too.. Plus it's locked up a few times on me..And I hate where they moved the tabs

147 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:27:54pm

re: #142 albusteve

maybe it's accumulative from one issue to the next...I upgraded and now am getting popups...even when I hit 'new comments' here at LGF

Check your extensions to see if you're running something that's causing problems if it's not configured correctly (such as NoScript or AdBlock Plus)...if it's not that, uninstall FF4, clear temp files and cache, and reinstall FF4.

148 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:28:47pm

re: #146 HoosierHoops

I hate the tabs!

149 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:29:23pm

re: #140 talon_262

What's so bad with FF4? I more or less skipped most of the FF 3.x releases in favor of Chrome, but came back with FF4 because of Firefox Sync...I like it and have had few issues.

They moved a bunch of buttons around. Looks like they were making it easier for tabbed browsing (which I hate for some reason). They also did away with my favorite toolbar which had all my nifty links on it. I really don't care for the aesthetics, but I suppose I could get used to that.

150 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:29:34pm

re: #147 talon_262

Check your extensions to see if you're running something that's causing problems if it's not configured correctly (such as NoScript or AdBlock Plus)...if it's not that, uninstall FF4, clear temp files and cache, and reinstall FF4.

I plan to, or go back to #3
I like FF format, but as Hoops says, they messed with the tabs now

151 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:31:15pm

where's Kobe Bryant?...has he been playing?

152 Killgore Trout  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:31:32pm

re: #145 reine.de.tout

I like Firefox, but I found it unusable for me, it seemed to be susceptible to all sorts of malicious stuff, that I could not get off my computer unless I took it in to Geek Squad. I'd uninstall, reinstall, read all the stuff, do all the "fixes" - no good.

Chrome or Safari are now my top 2 choices.

I did away with Safari because they kept trying to trick me into installing Itunes which I don't use and don't want. Maybe I should give Chrome a try.

153 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:32:48pm

Phil Jackson's post game news conference will be something to see .... He is retiring

154 allegro  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:33:25pm

For those not into the basketball, here's an interesting quickie test to see where you fall in the Pew Research Center political typologies.

155 Digital Display  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:34:56pm

Odom gets tossed from the game! Artest takes his place.. Ironic

156 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:35:14pm

re: #146 HoosierHoops

Me too.. Plus it's locked up a few times on me..And I hate where they moved the tabs

You know you can change that back to the "classic" style...right-click on a blank spot in your toolbar and deselect "Tabs on Top".

157 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:35:45pm

what happened with Odom?...did he punch out Bryant?

158 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:35:53pm

re: #156 talon_262

Aaaah.

159 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:36:31pm

MELTDOWN

160 MichaelJ  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:36:38pm

Total meltdown.

161 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:36:38pm

Artest should fucking be arrested for that one.

162 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:36:59pm

re: #156 talon_262

You know you can change that back to the "classic" style...right-click on a blank spot in your toolbar and deselect "Tabs on Top".

thanks, I'd forgotten that from the last time around

163 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:37:12pm

Whoa, Bynum just totally went for the nasty elbow block. Ugly.

164 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:37:32pm

re: #155 HoosierHoops

Odom gets tossed from the game! Artest takes his place.. Ironic

And Bynum ... What can you say?

165 prairiefire  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:37:50pm

re: #154 allegro

For those not into the basketball, here's an interesting quickie test to see where you fall in the Pew Research Center political typologies.

I'm a Post Modern.[Link: people-press.org...]

166 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:38:26pm

re: #164 _RememberTonyC

Crap, I thought that was Artest. Sorry Ron for mistaking you, the thug, for the other thug.

167 MichaelJ  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:38:28pm

Bynum just shaved years off his career and salary expectations.

168 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:38:29pm

re: #154 allegro

For those not into the basketball, here's an interesting quickie test to see where you fall in the Pew Research Center political typologies.

I am a Solid Liberal.

169 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:38:56pm

As Mike Tirico said ..... Bush league move .... Bynum will be suspended for the first 5 games of next season.

170 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:39:03pm

re: #168 SanFranciscoZionist

I am a Solid Liberal.

Apparently you can be a bit of a hawk and still end up a Solid Liberal.

171 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:39:16pm

LA shooting .333 for the qtr

172 MichaelJ  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:39:40pm

Sad to see LA look this way. I thought they had more class...

173 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:39:51pm

re: #163 Charles

Whoa, Bynum just totally went for the nasty elbow block. Ugly.

And pretty blatant, like he didn't give a damn...and I don't even follow basketball! Of course, with the Lakers trailing 100-68, you might as well stick a fork in them for this game.

174 Daniel Ballard  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:40:13pm

re: #154 allegro

For those not into the basketball, here's an interesting quickie test to see where you fall in the Pew Research Center political typologies.

I got post modern. Huh.

175 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:41:01pm

re: #172 MichaelJ

Sad to see LA look this way. I thought they had more class...

Usually. They are fucking embarrassed and cannot handle it.

176 Digital Display  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:41:11pm

re: #172 MichaelJ

Sad to see LA look this way. I thought they had more class...

Complete meltdown

177 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:42:00pm

re: #169 _RememberTonyC

As Mike Tirico said ... Bush league move ... Bynum will be suspended for the first 5 games of next season.

See? They're blaming Bush.

178 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:42:14pm

re: #171 albusteve

LA shooting .333 for the qtr

now down to .286

179 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:42:28pm

Well, at least Kobe made those 2. How is the team dealing with the shit? They want off the court now, like NOW.

180 Obdicut  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:42:38pm

How does a team manage to collapse that completely?

181 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:42:57pm

re: #177 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

See? They're blaming Bush.

Reggie Bush ...

182 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:43:05pm

re: #180 Obdicut

How does a team manage to collapse that completely?

There's a book to be sold.

183 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:43:08pm

re: #180 Obdicut

How does a team manage to collapse that completely?

hubris

184 prairiefire  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:43:19pm

re: #174 Rightwingconspirator

I got post modern. Huh.

Me too! I thought I was a flaming lib.

185 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:44:09pm

re: #183 albusteve

hubris

I think the Mavs were just so damned good that the Lakers were shocked, shocked I tell ya.

And then they crumbled. In a very very bad public way.

186 MichaelJ  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:44:49pm

Wow what a bummer. Mark Cuban now has bragging rights. Hard enough to endure him already...

187 Varek Raith  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:44:54pm

Whatcha talking about?
:)

188 Targetpractice  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:45:00pm

re: #154 allegro

For those not into the basketball, here's an interesting quickie test to see where you fall in the Pew Research Center political typologies.

Solidly Liberal, which I'm sure the me from a year ago would by shocked to hear.

189 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:45:08pm

jimrome Jim Rome

Philip looks like he's aged 15 years since the start of the game.

190 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:45:46pm

re: #180 Obdicut

How does a team manage to collapse that completely?

I really think the cohesiveness of the players has been compromised. Between Andrew Bynum running his mouth in the press and this-alleged incident between Kobe's wife and Pau Gasol's former fiancee, they self destructed from within.

191 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:46:31pm

since halftime Bryant has
2pts
1 reb
1assist

192 allegro  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:47:15pm

re: #188 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I would have been post modern maybe 10 years ago, now solid liberal. Disproves the meme that we get more conservative as we get older.

193 MichaelJ  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:47:20pm

J Kidd gets another shot at the Finals.

194 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:47:26pm

re: #190 _RememberTonyC

I really think the cohesiveness of the players has been compromised. Between Andrew Bynum running his mouth in the press and this-alleged incident between Kobe's wife and Pau Gasol's former fiancee, they self destructed from within.

You wonder where Derek Fisher is in all of this. He's the mature one.

Hey, I'm trying to find out if Corey Brewer is in for the Mav's anytime in this game, I am missing it if he's in.

195 BARACK THE VOTE  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:48:25pm

re: #154 allegro

For those not into the basketball, here's an interesting quickie test to see where you fall in the Pew Research Center political typologies.

Hmm, I got Based on your responses, YOU are a… Solid Liberal.

I'm shocked, I tells ya! Shocked!

196 Digital Display  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:48:56pm

re: #194 Stanley Sea

You wonder where Derek Fisher is in all of this. He's the mature one.

Hey, I'm trying to find out if Corey Brewer is in for the Mav's anytime in this game, I am missing it if he's in.

Haven't seen Corey..The Mav's only rotated 9 so far

197 Targetpractice  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:49:06pm

re: #188 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Solidly Liberal, which I'm sure the me from a year ago would by shocked to hear.

Though, to be honest, I never really like those kinds of political tests. "Either/Or" political tests always seem to put things in one extreme or another per answer, leaving you feeling uncomfortable with your choices. Question 12 in particular irked me, because I could see it both ways.

198 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:49:40pm

re: #194 Stanley Sea

You wonder where Derek Fisher is in all of this. He's the mature one.

Hey, I'm trying to find out if Corey Brewer is in for the Mav's anytime in this game, I am missing it if he's in.

Fish will retire and go to work for TNT or ESPN ...

199 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:50:41pm

re: #196 HoosierHoops

Haven't seen Corey..The Mav's only rotated 9 so far

Thanks Hoops! It really is a good final for the Gators.

Not the Lakers. I just tweeted a pissed off tweet.

200 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:51:24pm

OMG I'm ESP

corey brewer

201 Digital Display  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:51:31pm

re: #199 Stanley Sea

Thanks Hoops! It really is a good final for the Gators.

Not the Lakers. I just tweeted a pissed off tweet.

Cory just came in a scored

202 MichaelJ  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:51:41pm

Benches are cleared. I think even Rumplestiltskin is out there.

203 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:51:48pm

Corey and Al Horford's photo is framed, on my desk.

204 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:51:52pm

DAL scrubs are in

205 allegro  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:52:04pm

re: #197 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

I did a test several years ago that asked the best questions I ever saw and rated you on a quadrant, left-right and authoritative-non-authoritative. I wish I knew where to find that now. It was very interesting.

I was some to the left on economic beliefs and WAY down on the authority scale, rating as less authoritative than Ghandi and the Dali Lama.

206 Obdicut  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:52:11pm

re: #197 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Seriously. Most of my positions in favor of social welfare programs come from my desire to do this as cheaply and efficiently as possible. I believe in those programs because I believe it economically benefits me-- and everyone else-- for us to help others achieve productive lives.

How do you fit that onto a scale? I'd argue that's a financially pragmatic, if not conservative opinion.

207 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:52:27pm

re: #203 Stanley Sea

Corey and Al Horford's photo is framed, on my desk.

Al plays tonight on TNT

208 Daniel Ballard  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:52:27pm

re: #195 iceweasel

Hi Ice. Loved the picture page. My fave was the water drops dangling.

209 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:52:32pm

re: #204 albusteve

DAL scrubs are in

The way the Lakers turned at the end there want the coach to protect the players.

210 BARACK THE VOTE  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:53:37pm

re: #205 allegro

I did a test several years ago that asked the best questions I ever saw and rated you on a quadrant, left-right and authoritative-non-authoritative. I wish I knew where to find that now. It was very interesting.

I was some to the left on economic beliefs and WAY down on the authority scale, rating as less authoritative than Ghandi and the Dali Lama.

Was it this one? I scored the same as you in this, btw.
[Link: www.politicalcompass.org...]

211 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:53:37pm

re: #207 _RememberTonyC

Al plays tonight on TNT

Oh don't you know I know.

Al v. Jo

Billy Donovan is there to watch.

212 BARACK THE VOTE  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:54:25pm

re: #208 Rightwingconspirator

Hi Ice. Loved the picture page. My fave was the water drops dangling.

hey RWC! How's DL? Yep, Jimmah was having fun playing with his new camera this weekend. I liked the waterdrops too.

213 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:54:48pm

re: #211 Stanley Sea

Oh don't you know I know.

Al v. Jo

Billy Donovan is there to watch.

I HATE Noah (but wish he was on MY team)

214 prairiefire  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:54:58pm

re: #187 Varek Raith

Whatcha talking about?
:)

re: #205 allegro

I did a test several years ago that asked the best questions I ever saw and rated you on a quadrant, left-right and authoritative-non-authoritative. I wish I knew where to find that now. It was very interesting.

I was some to the left on economic beliefs and WAY down on the authority scale, rating as less authoritative than Ghandi and the Dali Lama.

I think Varek used to have it in his nic info.

215 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:56:19pm

I love that Budweiser commercial

216 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:56:53pm

Phil, RIP

217 Daniel Ballard  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:57:40pm

re: #212 iceweasel

She's fine, was actually online for a while yesterday while I was out at the range.

218 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:57:41pm

re: #213 _RememberTonyC

I HATE Noah (but wish he was on MY team)

I love the dude.

here
One Love

219 Targetpractice  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:58:23pm

re: #206 Obdicut

Seriously. Most of my positions in favor of social welfare programs come from my desire to do this as cheaply and efficiently as possible. I believe in those programs because I believe it economically benefits me-- and everyone else-- for us to help others achieve productive lives.

How do you fit that onto a scale? I'd argue that's a financially pragmatic, if not conservative opinion.

Agreed. I grew up under the philosophy that there's no shame in seeking help, a shoulder to lean on, so long as you don't make a living out of it. That folks who play by the rules and do all the right things may still need help to make it through hard times.

Hence why I'm absolutely disgusted by the ideology that's taken root in the GOP in recent years that relying on government help of any kind, even for brief instances, is a "failure" on one's part. As well as the hypocrisy that highlights professions, such as farming, as being those of "Real Americans," when many in those professions rely upon the government in one way or another for their livelihoods.

220 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:59:04pm

1973 games for Phil. He's totally retiring.

221 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:59:17pm

re: #218 Stanley Sea

I love the dude.

here
One Love

I was hoping for a U2 video :)

222 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:59:18pm

re: #220 Stanley Sea

1973 games for Phil. He's totally retiring.

And damn that it's an ugly exit

223 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:59:28pm

re: #221 _RememberTonyC

I was hoping for a U2 video :)

hahahaha

224 Varek Raith  Sun, May 8, 2011 2:59:42pm

re: #214 prairiefire

re: #205 allegro

I think Varek used to have it in his nic info.

[Link: www.politicalcompass.org...]

225 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:00:06pm

Dallas hits one more 3-pointer, just to rub it in.

226 austin_blue  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:00:32pm

re: #170 SanFranciscoZionist

Apparently you can be a bit of a hawk and still end up a Solid Liberal.

Same with me.

227 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:00:41pm

re: #225 Charles

Dallas hits one more 3-pointer, just to rub it in.

We really suck Charles. It's going to be interesting.

228 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:00:56pm

re: #225 Charles

Dallas hits one more 3-pointer, just to rub it in.

After the Bynum thing, do you blame them?

229 allegro  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:01:02pm

re: #210 iceweasel

Was it this one? I scored the same as you in this, btw.
[Link: [Link: www.politicalcompass.org...]...]

Just took it... yup, looks like the same one. I'm still a non-authoritative lefty.

230 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:01:14pm

re: #221 _RememberTonyC

I was hoping for a U2 video :)

something wrong with Bob Marley....HUH?

231 Obdicut  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:01:21pm

re: #225 Charles

A few new NBA records in assbeating were set tonight. I think that's a record number of 3 pointers.

232 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:01:41pm

Hey, the Kobe/Cuban hug was SWEET

233 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:02:43pm

re: #230 albusteve

something wrong with Bob Marley...HUH?

Luv me some Bob Marley .... Yah mon

234 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:02:43pm

re: #197 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Though, to be honest, I never really like those kinds of political tests. "Either/Or" political tests always seem to put things in one extreme or another per answer, leaving you feeling uncomfortable with your choices. Question 12 in particular irked me, because I could see it both ways.

I agree...that Pew test has me as a Solid Liberal, though I feel more moderate than that.

235 HappyBenghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:02:54pm

I took that Pew test since it was on one of my friend's facebook pages. I didn't like it. Too much either or for me. And frankly I don't see how one's personal financial situation has to do with ideology. Plenty of prosperous liberals and broke conservatives. I did score strong liberal though which wasn't surprising. On political compass, I'm usually negative 3 to 5 or so on social libertarian and -1 through 1 on economics.

236 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:02:54pm

re: #154 allegro

For those not into the basketball, here's an interesting quickie test to see where you fall in the Pew Research Center political typologies.

Solid Liberal on their scale. Probably as close as they get to a religious socialist in their scheme of things.

237 BARACK THE VOTE  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:03:05pm

re: #229 allegro

Just took it... yup, looks like the same one. I'm still a non-authoritative lefty.

Me too. Not really surprised.

Good night from Scotland, hope everyone has a great night!

238 _RememberTonyC  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:04:02pm

And so long from greater Hartford!

239 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:04:46pm

b-b-bye bye baby
from sunny ABQ

240 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:05:55pm

Phil Jackson has nothing to be ashamed about. He's one of the greatest coaches in NBA history, with more than his share of triumphs. It's too bad the last game couldn't be one of those triumphs, but you can't take his legacy away from him.

241 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:05:58pm

oh man, that was fun...I love seeing the Lakers get thrashed, but today you wonder who's side Bryant was on....worst game of his career?

242 Targetpractice  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:06:10pm

re: #234 talon_262

I agree...that Pew test has me as a Solid Liberal, though I feel more moderate than that.

I like think that I'm centrist, perhaps even a left-leaning one these days. At the same time, I also tend to believe the center is not where it was even a decade ago.

243 allegro  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:06:31pm

re: #237 iceweasel

An interesting little factoid from that site... there isn't a single example of a leader who is a non-authoritarian rightie. Hmmm...

244 Daniel Ballard  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:08:44pm

If Huntsman runs and loses the primary, he will still be the adult in the GOP room.
[Link: www.politico.com...]

245 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:09:08pm

re: #240 Charles

Phil Jackson has nothing to be ashamed about. He's one of the greatest coaches in NBA history, with more than his share of triumphs. It's too bad the last game couldn't be one of those triumphs, but you can't take his legacy away from him.

maybe the best ever, but he doesn't set pick, or pass the ball or crash the boards...I always loved his Zen thing, a very colorful guy

246 austin_blue  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:10:31pm

re: #245 albusteve

maybe the best ever, but he doesn't set pick, or pass the ball or crash the boards...I always loved his Zen thing, a very colorful guy

Big time Deadhead, too.

247 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:11:10pm

re: #246 austin_blue

yeah, forgot about that

248 albusteve  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:12:40pm

oh look!
it's Miller time

249 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:12:49pm

Man, the Lakers are gonna get a world of shit for that lousy unprofessional behavior at the end of the game.

Local sports people are already starting to rant.

250 austin_blue  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:15:24pm

re: #249 Charles

Man, the Lakers are gonna get a world of shit for that lousy unprofessional behavior at the end of the game.

Local sports people are already starting to rant.

If you act like a punk, you should be referred to as such, That was an unbelievable cheap shot.

251 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:17:24pm

Based on your responses, YOU are a… Libertarian

Along with 9% of the public

WAAAAH! I DON'T WANT TO BE A PAULIAN!

252 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:19:34pm

re: #236 wlewisiii

Solid Liberal on their scale. Probably as close as they get to a religious socialist in their scheme of things.

Took the test. Solid Liberal.

253 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:20:14pm

Affluent: 39% have incomes of $75,000 or more...

75K is affluent? Really?

254 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:21:27pm

re: #249 Charles

Man, the Lakers are gonna get a world of shit for that lousy unprofessional behavior at the end of the game.

Local sports people are already starting to rant.

Jim Rome will be epic Monday

255 Walter L. Newton  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:21:33pm

re: #252 Stanley Sea

Took the test. Solid Liberal.

Thank god.

256 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:21:39pm

My wife made me turn from the game when it was impossible for the Lakers to come back. She's now doing yoga on the Wii Fit.

Did more ejections come?

257 unwashed masses  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:21:48pm

"Post-Modern" ?

Hah, I always score right in the middle on these tests because I'm way left on some things and way right on others.

258 sod  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:22:53pm

re: #154 allegro

For those not into the basketball, here's an interesting quickie test to see where you fall in the Pew Research Center political typologies.

They could've shortened that to two questions:

1. What color are you?
2. Do you listen to NPR?

259 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:22:54pm

re: #253 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Affluent: 39% have incomes of $75,000 or more...

75K is affluent? Really?

It depends on where you live, really.

(Also, compared to say, Bangladesh, we're all affluent.)

260 allegro  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:26:42pm

re: #258 sod

They could've shortened that to two questions:

1. What color are you?
2. Do you listen to NPR?

Not happy with your results?

261 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:29:10pm

re: #258 sod

They could've shortened that to two questions:

1. What color are you?
2. Do you listen to NPR?

Ah true

262 sod  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:29:28pm

re: #260 allegro

Not happy with your results?

Ha! You nailed it!

263 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:29:52pm

re: #262 sod

Ha! You nailed it!

And? what was your result

264 Decatur Deb  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:31:40pm

re: #236 wlewisiii

Solid Liberal on their scale. Probably as close as they get to a religious socialist in their scheme of things.

Solid Liberal, possibly because there is no attempt to detect anything more leftward.

265 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:32:32pm

Here's what it said about me.

What They Believe (regarding me? dead on)

Economically very conservative but moderate to liberal on social issues
Highly critical of government
Strongly pro-business
Accepting of homosexuality
Less religious than the average American
Moderate views about immigrants compared to other GOP-oriented groups

Who They Are (1. yes, 2. I guess, 3. Yes, 4. Yes, 5. I didn't, 6. Attend weekly (or more), 7. Who? Me?, 8. No.

1. Strong Republican leaning, though a majority identify as independents
2. Affluent: 39% have incomes of $75,000 or more
3. Two-thirds are male
4. 85% are non-Hispanic whites
5. About seven-in-ten (71%) have attended college
6. About half as likely as the two strongest GOP groups to attend church weekly
7. 56% use social networking sites
8. 36% trade stocks

No one probably cares. But, there you go.

266 Varek Raith  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:32:32pm

re: #260 allegro

Not happy with your results?

OMFG.
Solid Liberal

News to me...
Lol

267 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:33:26pm

I hate polls like that where I don't really agree with either quote, but must pick one.

268 Decatur Deb  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:34:17pm

re: #265 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Here's what it said about me.

...
No one probably cares. But, there you go.

Helps us select our broad brushes.

269 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:34:46pm

re: #265 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Other than the less religious than others. But, who is more? Who is less? Meh.

270 allegro  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:35:36pm

re: #267 EmmmieG

I hate polls like that where I don't really agree with either quote, but must pick one.

That's why this one is more fun and likely much more accurate.

271 HappyBenghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:37:13pm

STrong Liberals
* Highly politically engaged
* 75% are Democrats
* Concentrated in the Northeast and West
* 57% are female
* Best educated of the groups: 49% hold at least a bachelor's degree and 27% have post-graduate experience
* A third regularly listen to NPR, about two-in-ten regularly watch The Daily Show and read The New York Times
* 59% have a passport
* 42% regularly buy organic foods
* 21% are first or second generation Americans
- I'm relatively politically engaged. Part of my campus' College Dems but not a government major or someone who has a desire to work in politics. So, the only thing that makes me a strong liberal is that yes I am a Democrat, I'm currently 12 creds short of a BA, and I have a passport. I sometimes listen to NPR, read the NYT, and watch the DAily Show not regularly.

272 sod  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:37:49pm

re: #267 EmmmieG

I hate polls like that where I don't really agree with either quote, but must pick one.

Exactly.

273 allegro  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:38:51pm

Hmmm, is Sod a closet liberal? Don't wanna admit it? LOL

274 HappyBenghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:39:27pm

re: #267 EmmmieG

I hate polls like that where I don't really agree with either quote, but must pick one.

Yeah, I am on a case by case situation with many issues. I am not always opposed to low taxes for example. I actually support a very low sales tax to expand on that. On foreign relations, it really depends on the situation to say the least.

275 Decatur Deb  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:39:34pm

re: #270 allegro

That's why this one is more fun and likely much more accurate.

Thanks--bookmarked.

276 sod  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:40:01pm

re: #263 Stanley Sea

And? what was your result

Main Street Republican

But they sure don't make you feel good about it. What does it all mean? Been sick as a dog all weekend, now this. Labeled.

277 Stanghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:40:45pm

re: #276 sod

Main Street Republican

But they sure don't make you feel good about it. What does it all mean? Been sick as a dog all weekend, now this. Labeled.

Sad

278 sod  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:43:58pm

re: #273 allegro

Hmmm, is Sod a closet liberal? Don't wanna admit it? LOL

My Dad would disown me!

279 Daniel Ballard  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:44:25pm

re: #270 allegro

I darn near bullseyed the center but wound up a little authoritarian left. Image: bothaxes.gif

280 allegro  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:46:17pm

re: #279 Rightwingconspirator

I darn near bullseyed the center but wound up a little authoritarian left.

Gonna have to change your name now? "JustaLittleBitLeftwingConspirator"

281 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:47:13pm

re: #6 Killgore Trout

June Consumer Reports rates free security software as Avira 65, AVG 60, Avast 57 Microsoft 55.

282 Varek Raith  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:47:17pm

re: #279 Rightwingconspirator

I darn near bullseyed the center but wound up a little authoritarian left. Image: bothaxes.gif

Heh, your nic needs changing.
:P

283 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:53:58pm

My daughter wrote this today:

If flowers grow in heaven Lord, then pick a bunch for me. Place them in my Mother's arms and tell her they're from me. Tell her that I love and miss her, and when she turns to smile, place a kiss upon her cheek and hold her for a while.


Her mom, my second wife, died in 1999.

284 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:57:33pm

re: #283 Shiplord Kirel

My Mom died 2.5 weeks ago, her birthday was last week & today was Mothers Day. I read a great poem, this week, about sitting in the palm of God's hand.

285 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:57:46pm

re: #283 Shiplord Kirel

*sniff*

286 Daniel Ballard  Sun, May 8, 2011 3:58:23pm

re: #280 allegro

re: #282 Varek Raith

Heh. Not after my posts in that thread earlier on Gov Scott and that lame ass bill about what Doctors can say.

287 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:00:43pm

re: #279 Rightwingconspirator

I darn near bullseyed the center but wound up a little authoritarian left. Image: bothaxes.gif

Me, too.

288 PhillyPretzel  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:12:24pm

re: #283 Shiplord Kirel

re: #284 Floral Giraffe

It has been over 20 years since my mom died and there are days like today where I miss her something awful. It is not easy.

289 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:16:04pm

re: #287 EmmmieG

Me, too.

Here's me: Economic Left/Right: -3.62 / Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.00

Image: pcgraphpng-talon_262.png

290 Decatur Deb  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:17:19pm

More Left and more Libertarian than the Dali Lama and nelson Mandela. I better stay out of China and S. Africa. (Would never call myself Libertarian in the Randian usage.)

[Link: www.politicalcompass.org...]

291 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:18:25pm

re: #279 Rightwingconspirator

I darn near bullseyed the center but wound up a little authoritarian left. Image: bothaxes.gif

Umm, that's not your graph, but a reference to show how it's laid out. Yours would have been further down the page, with a set of xy coordinates with it; see my #289.

292 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:22:13pm

re: #288 PhillyPretzel

She would have been 88 last week, it was a long & good life.
She'd have been SO PISSED at the Lakers today.
She was a huge fan!

293 PhillyPretzel  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:24:34pm

re: #292 Floral Giraffe
Mine would have been pissed at some of the current "people" who have been elected to public office.

294 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:25:47pm

re: #293 PhillyPretzel

HEH! Mom was in Orange County, CA.
Lots of good, solid teabaggers there!

295 HappyBenghazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:29:16pm

I think my grandmother who would be 100 next year would be amazed at how nasty the political discourse has gotten. My grandfather was a public servant. Started out in the NLRB almost at its start until he was forced out in the Nixon years and was in private practice until his death in the late 70's. I think about her a lot really and my grandfather even if I never knew him. It may sound cheesy but one of the things I would love to hear most in my life would be his voice. I've been trying to dream about him to no avail. I am biased but I really think that my dad's parents had one of the most beautiful romances I've ever heard of. They were truly partners in love and life.

296 Ben G. Hazi  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:50:00pm

re: #281 Floral Giraffe

June Consumer Reports rates free security software as Avira 65, AVG 60, Avast 57 Microsoft 55.

Consumer Reports reviews are helpful on durable goods, like appliances and cars, but I don't trust them on anything related to computers, especially software of any kind. Frankly, I don't have confidence that their writers and testers have the know-how to accurately compare something as important as AV software; AV-Comparatives and other groups do tests much more often than the once-in-a-blue-moon CR does an article on it (AV-Comparatives releases reports every few months or so).

According to AV-Comparatives' last on-demand scanning report (from February), MSR scored in 11th out of 20 AV suites tested, with 95.8% of samples detected (slightly worse than McAfee, Kaspersky, and ESET [NOD32], but better than Symantec [Norton] and Trend Micro) and only 1 false detection recorded (only McAfee did better).

Here is that report for your perusal: [Link: www.av-comparatives.org...]

297 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, May 8, 2011 4:51:49pm

re: #296 talon_262

That's why I posted the source. I'm not sure about their writers or testers either!

298 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 8, 2011 7:45:54pm

re: #253 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Affluent: 39% have incomes of $75,000 or more...

75K is affluent? Really?

Sure sounds it to me right now... (mutter, mutter)

299 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 8, 2011 7:47:11pm

re: #258 sod

They could've shortened that to two questions:

1. What color are you?
2. Do you listen to NPR?

Except that I'm white and only listen to NPR when I'm in someone's car and they turn it on. Based on that information, what would they do with me?

(I am Jewish.)

300 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 8, 2011 7:48:33pm

re: #267 EmmmieG

I hate polls like that where I don't really agree with either quote, but must pick one.

SIGNIFICANT nuance. It's annoying.

301 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 8, 2011 7:50:56pm

re: #274 HappyWarrior

Yeah, I am on a case by case situation with many issues. I am not always opposed to low taxes for example. I actually support a very low sales tax to expand on that. On foreign relations, it really depends on the situation to say the least.


"Are black people helpess victims of racism, or responsible for their own damn problems?"

Could you phrase that in a slightly MORE nuanceless, high-octane way, please?

302 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 8, 2011 7:51:24pm

re: #276 sod

Main Street Republican

But they sure don't make you feel good about it. What does it all mean? Been sick as a dog all weekend, now this. Labeled.

What's wrong with being a Main Street Republican?

303 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 8, 2011 7:52:05pm

re: #279 Rightwingconspirator

I darn near bullseyed the center but wound up a little authoritarian left. Image: bothaxes.gif

I always end up in the upper right-hand quadrant of 'left-libertarian'.


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