GOP Debates Will Continue Until Morale Improves

But without Herman, and that means I am sad
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It’s time for another Republican Party debate, and I’m sure you’re all as excited about that as I am.

Yet, in the midst of this expectation, I am sad. Life just seems so empty without Herman Cain and his visionary 9-9-9 plan. These debaters have some mighty big shoes to fill.

There’s going to be a semi-live feed here: ABC5 - Des Moines, Iowa.

While we wait for the clown car to arrive, Jake Tapper tweeted this picture earlier of the stand-ins for the candidates rehearsing during setup. This was probably more interesting than the actual debate.

(Registration’s open, if you’d like to leap into the fray.)

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559 comments
1 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 5:55:34pm

I hope Mitt Romney announces his brilliant new strategy: 9-9-9...

2 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 5:55:49pm

No, no, please, anything but that! I'll talk! I'll tell you anything you want to know!

//

3 Major Tom  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 5:56:15pm

Love the thread name.

4 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 5:56:27pm

We'll see if Romney can hold against Newt tonight. He cannot count on being the frontrunner, and will now have to get into the fray.

5 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 5:57:13pm

Debate Threads are the best threads EVAH.

6 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 5:57:38pm

GOP Debate: Part Nth - Grumpy Old Men

7 SpaceJesus  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 5:57:55pm

muwahaha

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

8 Girth  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 5:58:28pm

re: #4 Dark_Falcon

We'll see if Romney can hold against Newt tonight. He cannot count on being the frontrunner, and will now have to get into the fray.

All the long knives will be out for Newt tonight.

I don't know if my liver can stand the amount of scotch it will take to watch this thing.

9 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 5:58:57pm

re: #5 marjoriemoon

Debate Threads are the best threads EVAH.

They have been some of the most lively on LGF, and this has been true since 2008 at least.

10 jaunte  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 5:59:01pm

re: #7 SpaceJesus

It's 12-term outsider Ron Paul!

11 Major Tom  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 5:59:07pm

Romney needs to impress, Newt needs to not screw up, and Ron Paul needs to seem like he's not a befuddled 76 year old. I don't honestly think the others have a shot. The big questions are, who gets perry's and bachmann's supporters? I doubt they go to Romney after all this time... maybe out of sheer hatred of Obama...

12 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:00:12pm

Evening Lizardim. What's tonight's drinking game?

13 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:00:19pm

re: #7 SpaceJesus

muwahaha

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

People like Ron Paul more than others because Ron Paul is honest enough to wear his crazy on the outside.

14 BongCrodny  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:00:33pm

"Gentlemen and lady, we'd now like to ask you a question about science....nah, just kidding. We wouldn't do that to you."

15 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:00:46pm

re: #11 Major Tom

It largely depends on what other issues the GOP can get shoved on the ballots. If they get a 'fuck the gays' bill put on the ballot in a state, a referendum that has to be voted on, then that'll bring out the hyperconservative voters, and once they're actually at the voting booth they'll probably pull the lever for the R while they're there.

16 SpaceJesus  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:00:47pm

gingrich is going to stumble, and paul is going to run this train right into the craziest part of crazy town

17 jaunte  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:01:05pm

re: #12 thedopefishlives

"Gotcha question" / "flip-flop" / Newt critiques format/question

18 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:01:09pm

Holy crap this show format is just like a game show.

Sick and funny but mostly sick.

19 Varek Raith  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:01:13pm

I'm exhausted from these debates.
I hope this doesn't become the norm for future elections.
I can see it now....
Eleventy D debates!
Eleventy R debates!
My head asplode!
:/

20 Major Tom  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:01:42pm

Game show or too schmaltzy... pick your poison.

21 freetoken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:01:42pm

Heh, they didn't even have to fake the snow.

22 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:01:48pm

re: #17 jaunte

"Gotcha question" / "flip-flop" / Newt critiques format/question

Any takers on whether someone will call His Royal Newtness on the statement he made about the people commonly referred to as Palestinians the other day?

23 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:01:58pm

re: #16 SpaceJesus

gingrich is going to stumble, and paul is going to run this train right into the craziest part of crazy town

"We're going off the rails on a Crazy Train!"

24 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:02:09pm

Imagine that...they found a room full of white people in Iowa.

25 Decatur Deb  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:02:25pm

re: #19 Varek Raith

I'm exhausted from these debates.
I hope this doesn't become the norm for future elections.
I can see it now...
Eleventy D debates!
Eleventy R debates!
My head asplode!
:/

The Dems might win this one just because they have no 2012 primary debates.

26 Varek Raith  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:02:31pm

re: #15 Obdicut

It largely depends on what other issues the GOP can get shoved on the ballots. If they get a 'fuck the gays' bill put on the ballot in a state, a referendum that has to be voted on, then that'll bring out the hyperconservative voters, and once they're actually at the voting booth they'll probably pull the lever for the R while they're there.

Another recall a bill will be on the ballot in Ohio next Nov. I'm guessing Kasich and the GOP is none to pleased with that.

27 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:02:44pm

We have whoopers!

28 SpaceJesus  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:02:55pm

re: #13 darthstar

People like Ron Paul more than others because Ron Paul is honest enough to wear his crazy on the outside.

true. i actually want to register republican just so i can vote for him.

29 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:02:57pm

Paul got more spontaneous applause than Newt or Mitt...bad sign.

30 Major Tom  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:03:10pm

She looks skeletal, no?

31 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:03:10pm

Oh, they're running for president of America? I hadn't understood that. I thought this was the "Who wants to have a show on Fox?" competition.

32 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:03:30pm

re: #28 SpaceJesus

true. i actually want to register republican just so i can vote for him.

Do it anyway. Remember, vote fraud only counts as fraud when Democrats do it. The nice guys at Fox News told me so.

33 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:03:42pm

re: #29 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Paul got more spontaneous applause than Newt or Mitt...bad sign.

It's Iowa. These people applaud corn.

34 Alexzander  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:03:54pm

re: #12 thedopefishlives

Evening Lizardim. What's tonight's drinking game?

Its called crushing alcoholism.

35 Decatur Deb  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:03:54pm

I would salute if they were all committed.

36 Charles Johnson  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:03:55pm

Oh, good grief. Fawn much, Diane?

37 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:04:07pm

We salute you? What is this bullshit.

These people are all making fucking bank off of this.

Oh god the pain.

38 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:04:18pm

"We salute you."

So do I.

*raises middle finger*

39 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:04:21pm

re: #29 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Paul got more spontaneous applause than Newt or Mitt...bad sign.

Paul also gets more votes on Internet straw polls than anyone else. It don't mean much.

40 jaunte  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:04:41pm

re: #22 thedopefishlives

I think they may be inclined to go lightly on foreign policy tonight.

41 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:04:49pm

re: #36 Charles

Oh, good grief. Fawn much, Diane?

She sounds like a drunken aunt at a family dinner.

42 freetoken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:05:01pm

So the audience was selected by the Iowa GOP... means the applause will go to???

43 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:05:12pm

Whoa, double post.

44 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:05:23pm

re: #40 jaunte

I think they may be inclined to go lightly on foreign policy tonight.

Probably because none of the aforementioned candidates have any foreign policy to speak of. Or domestic policy, for that matter.

45 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:05:39pm

"What makes you unique?"

"Well, I'm just like Reagan."

46 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:05:42pm

re: #43 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Reagan! DRINK!

Damn, that didn't take long. It's going to be a long night.

47 jaunte  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:05:50pm

Zero taxes!

48 BongCrodny  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:05:58pm

Mitt's looking kinda creepy these days.

49 Charles Johnson  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:06:13pm

Gingrich comes out of the gate strong with the first Reagan reference.

50 Linden Arden  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:06:13pm

No Huntsman - this might be kick-ass time for someone.

51 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:06:15pm

Yes, repatriate that money at no taxes, it'll go to jobs...maybe.

52 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:06:28pm

Newt just said he worked with Clinton, who was a Democrat.

Isn't that terrible?

0% capital gains tax. No estate tax. These fuckers are serious about this. They really want the only income in the US to be taxed to be that that's actually earned.

What fucking sense does that make?

53 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:06:52pm

Thank you, Diane Sawyer, for that classy salute to the candidates.

(Even if you don't like the GOP candidates, it was a classy thing for her to do.)

54 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:07:05pm

*deadpan* Gee, did you guys know that Mitt was in the private sector? News to me.

55 jaunte  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:07:15pm

Newt's been studying Reagan, he might try to appear friendly.

56 Varek Raith  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:07:15pm

The debate in a nutshell.

Youtube Video

Time to slay some dragons.
Later!
:)

57 krypto  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:07:16pm

Live feed also on Yahoo:

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Gingrich just used "Class Warfare" -- everybody drink.

58 Interesting Times  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:07:25pm

re: #42 freetoken

So the audience was selected by the Iowa GOP... means the applause will go to???

Pepper-spraying of food bank patrons and bills that respect the religious freedom to engage in gay-bashing.

59 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:07:39pm

re: #41 darthstar

GFY

60 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:07:50pm

re: #52 Obdicut

Newt just said he worked with Clinton, who was a Democrat.

Isn't that terrible?

0% capital gains tax. No estate tax. These fuckers are serious about this. They really want the only income in the US to be taxed to be that that's actually earned.

What fucking sense does that make?

That depends. In regular reality, none what-so-fucking-ever. In Fantasyland, though, it will spur all sorts of job creation, which will generate more income, and thus more taxes. Somehow.

61 freetoken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:07:50pm

Hard core right wing talking points except for religion so far... when does God get his chance?

62 Feline Fearless Leader  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:07:50pm

re: #18 Obdicut

Holy crap this show format is just like a game show.

Sick and funny but mostly sick.

They need Trebek and do GOP Jeopardy.

"I'll take AGW Denial for $600."

63 Alexzander  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:07:50pm

Anyone know why Huntsman isn't there? His polling in Iowa?

64 Charles Johnson  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:07:50pm

re: #53 Dark_Falcon

Thank you, Diane Sawyer, for that classy salute to the candidates.

(Even if you don't like the GOP candidates, it was a classy thing for her to do.)

Struck me as total fawning. She should be asking tough questions, not sucking up to these clowns.

65 freetoken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:07:58pm

FED!!

66 Linden Arden  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:08:13pm

The Fed! a record 1.5 minutes in!

67 Girth  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:08:13pm

re: #54 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

*deadpan* Gee, did you guys know that Mitt was in the private sector? News to me.

Only because he's lost every election except one.

68 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:08:19pm

And here's Crazy Uncle Ron to tilt yet again at windmills.

69 BongCrodny  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:08:29pm

re: #52 Obdicut

Newt just said he worked with Clinton, who was a Democrat.

Newt's going after the Clinton Democrats, who used to be the Reagan Democrats, who used to be the Carter Democrats.

70 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:08:41pm

re: #63 Alexzander

Anyone know why Huntsman isn't there? His polling in Iowa?

He was excluded. His poll numbers are too low.

71 Alexzander  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:08:56pm

re: #64 Charles

Struck me as total fawning. She should be asking tough questions, not sucking up to these clowns.

re: #64 Charles

Struck me as total fawning. She should be asking tough questions, not sucking up to these clowns.

I think it is a trap. Except some pressing questions later on I'd guess. Get them comfortable first though.

72 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:09:07pm

re: #68 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

And here's Crazy Uncle Ron to tilt yet again at windmills.

That's "Champion of the Constitution" Ron Paul to you.

73 Major Tom  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:09:14pm

re: #64 Charles

Newt's been attacking the moderators... She was probably pre-empting him.

74 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:09:23pm

Perry brings up the flat tax right away.

75 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:09:33pm

re: #59 Dark_Falcon

GFY

I didn't say she sounded like YOUR drunken aunt at a family dinner. Sheesh.

76 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:09:33pm

Preview:

Ronald Reagan blah blah Ronald Reagan.
Gingrich accuses Romney of being exactly like Obama.
Romney claims he stole all the Obama-like ideas from Gingrich.
Gingrich says that can't be true because Ronald Reagan.

77 BongCrodny  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:09:44pm

If Mitt won all of his races, he'd be about 20 years removed from the private sector.

78 Alexzander  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:09:54pm

re: #73 Major Tom

Newt's been attacking the moderators... She was probably pre-empting him.

Exactly.

79 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:10:02pm

An oil man bitching about a connection between D.C. and Wall Street lacks something...oh, right, credibility.

80 Charles Johnson  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:10:15pm

Perry: "I can, on a map, diagram what's wrong with America today." Science!

81 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:10:19pm

Fucking flat tax.

Goddamn these idiots. These are not serious people. Or rather, they are not appealing to serious people. A goddamn flat tax. What's good about a flat tax? It's simple. That's it. Nothing else about it.

82 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:10:25pm

9-9-9! Drink!

83 Girth  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:10:26pm

999!!!

84 SpaceJesus  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:10:40pm

win win win plan. sheen is running bachmann's campaign now?

85 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:10:47pm

Hey guys, did you know Bachmann was a federal tax lawyer? Wonder if Marcus agreed with that?

86 Alexzander  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:10:47pm

WIN WIN WIN?

SOUNDS LIKE FUN FUN FUN!

87 Decatur Deb  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:10:47pm

Actually, the WIN program was under Pres. Ford.

88 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:10:52pm

Kind of weird of Perry to suddenly savage corrupt bankers.

89 freetoken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:10:58pm

47%

90 jaunte  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:11:07pm

Simplemind simplemind simplemind

91 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:11:14pm

Perry now opens up on Wall Street.

And in something of a shock, Michelle Bachmann mentions Herman Cain and '9-9-9'. Not smart.

92 Linden Arden  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:11:15pm

"Raise taxes on child laborers!"

93 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:11:16pm

re: #86 Alexzander

WIN WIN WIN?

SOUNDS LIKE FUN FUN FUN!

until daddy takes the T-Bird away.

94 Feline Fearless Leader  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:11:16pm

re: #84 SpaceJesus

win win win plan. sheen is running bachmann's campaign now?

If she mentions tiger blood then the answer is "yes".

95 Major Tom  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:11:19pm

legalize energy... lol

96 Girth  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:11:20pm

Legalize American energy!!?

97 bratwurst  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:11:22pm

Bachmann is a former tax attorney?!? Why hasn't she mentioned this before? /

98 BongCrodny  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:11:36pm

Didn't Ford have a WIN plan? Whip Inflation Now?

How'd that work out for him?

99 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:11:46pm

re: #88 Obdicut

Kind of weird of Perry to suddenly savage corrupt bankers.

Wonder if his son is included amongst the ranks of "corrupt bankers"?

100 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:12:02pm

re: #88 Obdicut

Kind of weird of Perry to suddenly savage corrupt bankers.

He's getting desperate.

101 SpaceJesus  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:12:07pm

i think it's time to start my drink drink drink plan for this evening

102 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:12:10pm

Why did Santorum make the cut and Huntsman didn't?

103 freetoken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:12:13pm

Santorum gets his Iowa references in... it's called the "cheap heat" in the entertainment biz.

104 Alexzander  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:12:26pm

re: #95 Major Tom

legalize energy... lol

MY PLAN?
LEGALIZE ENERGY AND BABY JESUS!

105 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:12:31pm

re: #87 Decatur Deb

Actually, the WIN program was under Pres. Ford.

And it didn't work. It took Paul Volker and punishingly high rates of Fed interest to whip inflation.

106 Charles Johnson  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:12:32pm

Bachmann wants to "legalize American energy" by which she means coal mining, fracking, and drill baby drill.

107 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:12:34pm

Bachmann wants to get rid of the EPA...

108 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:12:34pm

The drop in manufacturing jobs is because of automation, you goddamn liar.

They're all such liars. And their audience likes being lied to. It's pretty twisted.

109 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:12:37pm

Regulations! DRINK!

110 freetoken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:12:39pm

re: #102 darthstar

Why did Santorum make the cut and Huntsman didn't?

Vander Plaats and the rest like him.

111 Girth  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:12:40pm

Frothy mixture.

112 Alexzander  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:12:53pm

re: #101 SpaceJesus

i think it's time to start my drink drink drink plan for this evening

When my girlfriend gets home in a minute I really hope she is carrying some beer.

113 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:12:55pm

re: #106 Charles

Bachmann wants to "legalize American energy" by which she means coal mining, fracking, and drill baby drill.

What the hell. The stupid, it burns.

114 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:13:15pm

re: #106 Charles

Bachmann wants to "legalize American energy" by which she means coal mining, fracking, and drill baby drill.

Did anyone bother to mention to her that America has become a net exporter of refined fuel for the first time in years?

115 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:13:21pm

re: #102 darthstar

Why did Santorum make the cut and Huntsman didn't?

Because he has effectively moved to Iowa at this point.

116 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:13:28pm

Hah, they actually called them on non-answers. Even the moderators are getting tired of this shit.

117 jaunte  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:13:32pm

Give it up Everglades, we know you're hiding the American energy in there somewhere.

118 Decatur Deb  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:13:41pm

Diane goes all schoolmarm.

119 Alexzander  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:13:46pm

re: #102 darthstar

Why did Santorum make the cut and Huntsman didn't?

Iowa voters I'd assume. Its the only state Santorum has substantial support.

120 Lidane  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:13:56pm

What are the chances of Newt NOT being a raging asshole tonight?

121 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:13:56pm

re: #115 Dark_Falcon

Because he has effectively moved to Iowa at this point.

That's a good place to keep him...and his brood.

122 Major Tom  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:14:19pm

re: #115 Dark_Falcon

Santorum has been to all '99 counties' in Iowa. For what it's worth... I guess this debate...

123 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:14:23pm

Payroll tax cut? I'll predict the united answer: Let is fall, unless the Bush Tax Cuts are included!

124 Decatur Deb  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:14:27pm

re: #119 Alexzander

Iowa voters I'd assume. Its the only state Santorum has substantial support.

It's the only state where they don't google.

125 freetoken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:14:55pm

Sawyer is beyond fawning.

126 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:15:03pm

This is a bad tax cut because it helps working class people.

127 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:15:14pm

Temporary gimmicks? You mean like the Bush Tax Cuts?

128 Girth  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:15:21pm

re: #120 Lidane

What are the chances of Newt NOT being a raging asshole tonight?

Don't ask the man to not be himself.

129 Linden Arden  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:15:22pm

"We're for all tax cuts except Obama's!"

130 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:15:26pm

Bachmann looks a bit like the alien from those Predator movies.

131 jaunte  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:15:46pm

Those guys like Obama, but not me!

132 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:15:53pm

re: #126 Obdicut

This is a bad tax cut because it helps working class people.

Because God forbid that a Republican ever help anyone except himself. Isn't that the Golden Rule? Whoever has the gold, makes the rules?

133 allegro  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:16:04pm

Oh now they worry about seniors.

134 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:16:08pm

Yes, Bachmann, when you cut taxes there's less revenue. That's why we should restore the Bush Tax cuts.

Image: TheMoreYouKnow.jpg

135 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:16:13pm

It hasn't cost Social Security a goddamned cent, that money has come from the General Fund, which is a change from general policy, which is the exact opposite.

136 Girth  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:16:24pm

Apparently the "General Treasury" is behind the stage tonight.

137 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:16:27pm

What the hell is this stupid woman going on about?

138 BongCrodny  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:17:12pm

Bite me, you out-of-touch plutocrat.

139 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:17:23pm

Ooh, feel the empathy from Romney.

I feel it. Do you feel it?

It feels kind of like under-cooked calamari.

140 allegro  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:17:23pm

Romney: Watch me pretend I have empathy.

Not buying it.

141 Major Tom  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:17:23pm

....and Romney has read about 'people.'

142 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:17:36pm

The Payroll tax cut doesn't help the middle class...the middle class aren't that badly hurt by a 100 dollar a month hit. The Payroll tax cut helps the poor.

143 jaunte  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:17:58pm

re: #141 Major Tom

He's spoken to businessmen around the country about these 'people.'

144 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:18:10pm

re: #142 darthstar

The Payroll tax cut doesn't help the middle class...the middle class aren't that badly hurt by a 100 dollar a month hit. The Payroll tax cut helps the poor.

Speak for yourself. This middle class American could sorely use that $100 a month.

145 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:18:13pm

Romney pulling that "Obama golf grip" canard out of his ass again.

146 Lidane  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:18:32pm

re: #140 allegro

Romney: Watch me pretend I have empathy.

Not buying it.

Hasn't Mittens been paying attention lately? "Empathy" is code for "liberal", or at least that's what the wingnuts claim these days.

147 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:19:11pm

Businesses aren't investing in America because taxes are so low, they make more money off stocks and interest on the money they've crammed into the bank.

148 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:19:19pm

Good Social Security shots at Obama by Santorum.

149 sprezzatura  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:19:37pm

Anything that helps the 99% is bad. Anything that helps the 1% is good. All you need to know about R's and tax cuts.

150 Stanghazi  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:19:45pm

re: #4 Dark_Falcon

We'll see if Romney can hold against Newt tonight. He cannot count on being the frontrunner, and will now have to get into the fray.

Ugh Newt.

151 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:19:50pm

Paul's right about that. We'll be in Baghdad forever. And thank goodness for it.

152 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:19:50pm

re: #148 Dark_Falcon

Good Social Security shots at Obama by Santorum.

Are you joking?

153 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:19:58pm

re: #144 thedopefishlives

Speak for yourself. This middle class American could sorely use that $100 a month.

$100 a month is $1,200 a year. That could be a lot of things for that family.

It's the difference between a vacation and no vacation.

It could be a down payment on braces or a new car.

It's certainly Christmas.

154 allegro  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:20:08pm

Since they suddenly care so much about funding SS why hasn't a one of them proposed eliminating the cap? That would take care of it immediately.

155 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:20:38pm

re: #148 Dark_Falcon

Good Social Security shots at Obama by Santorum.

You know he was just lying, right?

156 freetoken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:20:51pm

"merit".... said the man born into money...

157 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:20:59pm

re: #154 allegro

Since they suddenly care so much about funding SS why hasn't a one of them proposed eliminating the cap? That would take care of it immediately.

Because rich folks wouldn't get more money out of it, so as far as they're concerned, it's "wrong" that the rich pay more into the system when they're not getting more out.

158 jaunte  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:20:59pm

I can't believe Romney is talking about entitlement.

159 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:20:59pm

Seriously Mitt, grow a spine. He's standing right next to you.

160 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:21:22pm

This debate is incredibly difficult to masturbate to.

161 BongCrodny  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:21:30pm

M-O-O-N, that spells Moon!

162 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:21:30pm

Fuck, Mitt, you're making Perry look good!

163 Lidane  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:21:32pm

re: #148 Dark_Falcon

Look at you, trying to pretend that Santorum is a serious political figure.

Heh.

164 Kronocide  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:21:45pm

Yous guys got it covered. I'm going to get wine and cheese.

165 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:21:45pm

re: #158 jaunte

I can't believe Romney is talking about entitlement.

They really do live in a fantasy reality, don't they.

166 Girth  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:21:52pm

Romney believes in a merit based society.

"See...if you have money, you have merit, therefore I WANNA BE PRESIDENT!"

167 Linden Arden  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:22:01pm

re: #160 goddamnedfrank

This debate is incredibly difficult to masturbate to.

Not for Glenn Beck.

168 jaunte  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:22:02pm

re: #165 thedopefishlives

Rich parents for everyone!

169 Major Tom  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:22:08pm

He pulled up the nose dive.

170 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:22:15pm

And Romney now goes on the offensive against Gingrich. Uses Gingrich's child labor and capital gains views as firing points.

171 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:22:15pm

OUCH!

172 Major Tom  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:22:31pm

bazinga!

173 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:22:42pm

Newt! Dude! Punch to the mid-section!

174 allegro  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:22:55pm

You loser! LOL

175 Altermite  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:22:55pm

Oh, wow, petty asshole time!

176 Girth  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:22:55pm

re: #160 goddamnedfrank

This debate is incredibly difficult to masturbate to.

That's the funniest thing I've read in forever. I regret that I have but one upding to give.

177 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:22:55pm

re: #170 Dark_Falcon

And Romney now goes on the offensive against Gingrich. Uses Gingrich's child labor and capital gains views as firing points.

And Gingrich slaps back. Fuck both these assholes. They belong together.

178 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:22:56pm

This is depressing. "Served the country". Served the country by making millions and millions of dollars.

No, shitheads, that's the country serving you.

Vain, vain fuckers.

179 Alexzander  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:23:15pm

Damn my live feed stuttered. What happened?

180 JAFO  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:23:27pm

I agree with Gingrich on the space program. That's it.

181 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:23:37pm

Newt makes me physically ill. Seriously. I can't bear him.

182 freetoken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:23:37pm

Gingrich get's in his Iowa reference... waiting for Bachmann to mention she was born in Waterloo.

183 bratwurst  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:23:37pm

Newt going back to bashing those high paid janitors!

184 jaunte  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:23:41pm

Janitor time!

185 Girth  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:23:50pm

Yeah, fuck those janitors.

186 Charles Johnson  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:23:50pm

Newt Gingrich wants to establish mining colonies on the moon? Ok, that's cool. Unless it's staffed with "really poor" kids.

187 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:23:50pm

Gingrinch wants young children to be able to meet Bachmann someday.

188 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:24:05pm

Newt's thing about janitors is a lie, by the way. Entry-level janitors don't get paid twice as much as entry-level teachers.

Just another lie.

189 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:24:11pm

Poor kids aren't working? What fucking universe does Newt live in?!

190 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:24:14pm

Gingrich to Romney: "The only reason you didn't become a career politician is that you lost to Teddy Kennedy in 1994." BURN!

191 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:24:27pm

Newt just discovered that slapping his podium makes a good emphasis drum beat over the mic.

192 allegro  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:24:39pm

Oh, yeah, give poor kids a chance to pursue happiness by letting them scrub toilets. What an asshole.

193 Kronocide  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:24:39pm

Who run Bartertown?

I run Bartertown.

But I propose a new plan for Bartertown: 5 men enter, 3 man leave.

I am against attacking the freedoms that made Bartertown great.

194 BongCrodny  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:24:48pm

You need to give rich people *more* money.

195 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:25:19pm

re: #191 darthstar

Newt just discovered that slapping his podium makes a good emphasis drum beat over the mic.

Just as long as he doesn't take his shoe off.

196 Kronocide  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:25:19pm

Tinkle Down Economics!

197 Major Tom  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:25:33pm

It's a boxing match now.

198 freetoken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:25:38pm

Is "private sector" the magic password to Mitt's club?

199 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:25:59pm

re: #198 freetoken

Is "private sector" the magic password to Mitt's club?

It's the only thing he's got to run on now.

200 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:26:08pm

re: #192 allegro

Oh, yeah, give poor kids a chance to pursue happiness by letting them scrub toilets. What an asshole.

And who is paying their healthcare for their bad backs and arthritis at age 50?

201 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:26:14pm

TARP! DRINK!

202 Alexzander  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:26:41pm

RON PAUL

203 Interesting Times  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:26:59pm
LOLGOP
GOP audience just cheered child labor. They do not let down.

Oh good, I was wondering how they could ever surpass their cheer-for-executions/cheer-for-uninsured-deaths/boo-gay-soliders douchebaggery.

204 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:27:00pm

I just figured out why I can't get streaming video. The Princess is using the tablet to watch movies.

205 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:27:00pm

re: #195 thedopefishlives

Just as long as he doesn't take his shoe off.

Very good Nikita Khrushchev reference.

206 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:27:12pm

Vote for me. I'm consistently stupid.

207 Boyo  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:27:12pm

eww did newt just wink at the moderator?

208 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:27:13pm

Paul sounds so sweet while he's stabbing away at Newt. Awesome.

209 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:27:13pm

Romney is running for the general election now. He's going for the middle class. He's not really, of course, his policies would benefit the ultra-wealthy, but that's the face he's putting on it.

210 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:27:23pm

Audit the Fed! DRINK!

211 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:27:23pm

re: #190 Dark_Falcon

Gingrich to Romney: "The only reason you didn't become a career politician is that you lost to Teddy Kennedy in 1994." BURN!

LOL! It's funny because it's true.

212 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:27:41pm

re: #148 Dark_Falcon

Good Social Security shots at Obama by Santorum.

If Santorum said what he's said about gays, about jews instead, you'd be calling for his head

tribe tribe tribalism tribe tribe tribe

213 Linden Arden  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:28:01pm

Newt = McKinsey?

Fuck him.

214 BongCrodny  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:28:13pm

Newt looks ready to deliver that baby any minute now.

215 jaunte  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:28:39pm

Insiders fighting over who's more inside.

216 Major Tom  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:28:51pm

Since she was 5.

217 Lidane  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:28:51pm

re: #186 Charles

Newt Gingrich wants to establish mining colonies on the moon? Ok, that's cool. Unless it's staffed with "really poor" kids.

Who else would he staff it with?

218 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:28:51pm

Bachmann started her business at age 5, btw

lol

219 freetoken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:28:51pm

Bachmann... real world...

One of those is not like the other.

220 Charles Johnson  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:28:54pm

Newt's running the gauntlet of pure Republican values.

221 Meitantei  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:29:16pm

I've wasted half a day in anticipation of the Chris Paul trade, so should I continue with this thing?

222 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:29:26pm

re: #215 jaunte

Insiders fighting over who's more inside.

Except Romney. He's making the "I'm electable" appeal.

This is the primary that will decide whether the old guard of the GOP is still in charge, or not.

223 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:29:36pm

The best part is watching everyone keep a smile on their face while the others are attacking them.

224 Girth  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:29:36pm

That's it. I'm convinced. If only the very wealthy had more money I'd be able to pay off my student loans.

225 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:29:36pm

Newt Romney...that actually has a nice ring to it.

226 Linden Arden  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:29:36pm

"Newt Romney"

you go girl!

227 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:29:57pm

Strategy for Debate: "Dogpile on Newt and Romney".

Check.

228 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:30:01pm

Note to Bachmann: YOU WEREN'T A BUSINESS WOMAN WHEN YOU WERE 5!!!11

Sorry, the sheer stupidity just got to me.

229 Major Tom  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:30:04pm

But will it catch on?

230 BongCrodny  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:30:08pm

Knute Romney All American

231 jaunte  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:30:12pm

Memorized 1-minute speeches.

232 Boyo  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:30:15pm

NEWT-ROMNEY madddd

233 Interesting Times  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:30:15pm

re: #212 WindUpBird

Oh hai. Remember everything you've said about Bloomberg? Turns out his trophy girlfriend is even worse.

234 Stanghazi  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:30:39pm

re: #205 Dark_Falcon

Very good Nikita Khrushchev reference.

Who? Are the GOP reaching that far?

235 jaunte  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:30:50pm

All my money was legit!

236 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:31:02pm

And I have the Tiffany to prove it!

237 Major Tom  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:31:21pm

Newt: "I've done far worse than you think!" j/k

238 BongCrodny  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:31:46pm

Seriously, though, Newt really could stand to lay off the seconds and thirds for a while.

239 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:31:55pm

re: #234 Stanley Sea

Who? Are the GOP reaching that far?

It was in reference to my comment. I kinda slipped it in there. I do have to admit, Newt doing a Khrushchev impression would be amusing as all get out.

240 jaunte  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:32:07pm

She looks more like a 270 degree type to me.

241 Charles Johnson  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:32:07pm

Bachmann presses her attack. Obamacare! Newt Romney! Catchphrase!

242 Girth  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:32:20pm

Tired fucking line Mitt.

243 freetoken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:32:20pm

Perry is totally quiet.

244 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:32:20pm

re: #228 Dark_Falcon

Note to Bachmann: YOU WEREN'T A BUSINESS WOMAN WHEN YOU WERE 5!!!11

Sorry, the sheer stupidity just got to me.

She's part of Newt's new Job's Plan.

245 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:32:20pm

Can we get a commercial break to mop up all the blood that's being drawn?

246 Alexzander  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:32:32pm

The newt-romney sounds like some kind of recently discovered poisonous species.

247 Altermite  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:32:41pm

We have to get this newt gingrich thing out of here!

-Romney

248 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:32:41pm

I think I like this Newt Romney fellow...which one is he?

249 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:32:54pm

re: #243 freetoken

Perry is totally quiet.

His plan: Get through this without killing my chances. Again.

250 Charles Johnson  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:32:56pm

They all seem to really dislike this 'Barack Obama' guy.

251 Linden Arden  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:33:03pm

re: #243 freetoken

Perry is totally quiet.

Good strategy on his part.

252 Major Tom  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:33:05pm

re: #241 Charles

Is it cynical, or does she know her audience?

253 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:33:23pm

re: #243 freetoken

Perry is totally quiet.

It's in is best interest to be quite.

254 SpaceJesus  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:33:35pm

perry literally looks like he has no idea what is happening

255 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:33:47pm

re: #254 SpaceJesus

perry literally looks like he has no idea what is happening

He doesn't.

256 Lidane  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:33:54pm

re: #243 freetoken

Perry is totally quiet.

For once, he's doing something right. =P

257 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:33:56pm

Seems the gameplan tonight is for the "also-rans" to beat up on "Newt Romney."

258 Girth  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:34:09pm

Perry: I'm stunned.

We know you are Rick. Here, have a Coke.

259 JAFO  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:34:09pm

re: #250 Charles

History's greatest monster.

260 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:34:12pm

re: #234 Stanley Sea

Who? Are the GOP reaching that far?

Actually, my comment was in response to this exchange:

re: #191 darthstar

Newt just discovered that slapping his podium makes a good emphasis drum beat over the mic.

re: #195 thedopefishlives

Just as long as he doesn't take his shoe off.

Khrushchev pounding his shoe on the podium was the reference, and I just complimented TDFL for it.

261 allegro  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:34:20pm

They are getting plum testy tonight. heh

262 BongCrodny  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:34:32pm

re: #248 darthstar

I think I like this Newt Romney fellow...which one is he?

Rumor has it Seth Brundle was involved.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

263 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:34:40pm

Perry's one good lookin' fella. I think he should give up this gig and go sing country songs.

264 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:34:40pm

re: #254 SpaceJesus

perry literally looks like he has no idea what is happening

Pain meds kicked in.

265 jaunte  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:34:41pm

Obamanation! Drink!

266 freetoken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:34:42pm

Individual mandates... abominations... eh?

267 Major Tom  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:34:53pm

Perry is optimistic, isn't he?

268 Girth  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:35:04pm

Obamacare is an Obamination!

269 Alexzander  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:35:06pm

Congratulations to Perry for forming complete sentences.
Little steps Perry.

270 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:35:08pm

This is pathetic, makes me almost feel sorry for the Republicans I know ... almost. Fact is they've chosen to be represented by these skin jobs, because these skin jobs best represent their reprehensible set of values.

271 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:35:31pm

Individuals can craft their own solutions under the 10th amendment?

Sweet, catch y'all later, I've got to get some bills up in this shit.

272 jaunte  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:35:31pm

re: #269 Alexzander

No more lists of three, though.

273 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:35:56pm

re: #250 Charles

They all seem to really dislike this 'Barack Obama' guy.

But he keeps winning their debates all the same.

274 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:36:00pm

Oh, and the HPV idiocy comes out.

275 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:36:10pm

re: #271 Obdicut

Individuals can craft their own solutions under the 10th amendment?

Sweet, catch y'all later, I've got to get some bills up in this shit.

Do you have the minimum $1 billion dollar "campaign contribution"?

276 freetoken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:36:10pm

knives... knives come out... vaccines!!

277 jaunte  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:36:12pm

Romney tries the vaccine stiletto.

278 Altermite  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:36:24pm

good words, romney.

279 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:36:28pm

Hillarycare! DRINK!

280 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:36:45pm

re: #274 Obdicut

Oh, and the HPV idiocy comes out.

I don't know why Romney brought that up.

281 palomino  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:36:46pm

re: #190 Dark_Falcon

Gingrich to Romney: "The only reason you didn't become a career politician is that you lost to Teddy Kennedy in 1994." BURN!

To which Romney, were he not a robot, should have replied, "Well, at least I didn't get kicked out of the House (effectively) by my own party."

282 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:37:07pm

re: #274 Obdicut

Oh, and the HPV idiocy comes out.

Ah, the Anti-Science Brigade has arrived. Someone bring the can opener, there's worms that need to be opened.

283 allegro  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:37:15pm

Perry: I can read! My friend...

284 jaunte  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:37:15pm

Perry's bloodsugar going down...

285 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:37:15pm

Rick Perry shouldn't try to use compound sentences.

286 Major Tom  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:37:15pm

Oh no.... Perry's trying to say something complex.

287 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:37:35pm

Is this a debate or The Gong Show?

288 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:37:48pm

lololololol.

to which I add, lol.

289 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:37:51pm

$10,000 bet? Really? Let's just throw our cocks on the podium and see who has the biggest one...

290 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:38:09pm

Newt just admitted that the individual mandate was a GOP idea and it has only become "unconstitutional" since Obama embraced it.

I think that's a good commercial for Democrats.

291 krypto  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:38:20pm

It doesn't really "cut Medicare" -- it saves money from the future growth of government expenses for Medicare, by doing things like reducing the excessive subsidies to private insurance companies for Medicare Advantage, while actually slightly increasing benefits people under Medicare receive (which is hardly a cut). Medicare Advantage premiums DECREASED by 4% last year, contrary to predictions by Repubs.

292 Linden Arden  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:38:21pm

Let them keep talking, Diane/George.

293 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:38:38pm

Hey, moderators, when the frak are you going to moderate?!

294 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:39:12pm

Perry just nodded at Romney as if to say, "She's got a point."

295 Charles Johnson  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:39:24pm

Bachmann: "We have one shot to get rid of Obamacare!" Kill it! Kill it with fire!

296 Interesting Times  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:39:28pm

re: #284 jaunte

Perry's bloodsugar going down...

Quick! To the rescue!!1!

297 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:39:30pm

re: #293 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Hey, moderators, when the frak are you going to moderate?!

That takes work, and we all know the GOP is all about doing anything they can to avoid work.

298 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:39:31pm

Bachmann and Santorum are the most honest people up there.

299 Girth  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:39:47pm

re: #286 Major Tom

Oh no... Perry's trying to say something complex.

Perry's arguments are irreducibly complex, therefore they must have had an intelligent designer. Obviously it wasn't Rick Perry.

300 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:39:51pm

re: #298 Obdicut

Bachmann and Santorum are the most honest people up there.

Scary shit.

301 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:39:58pm

re: #281 palomino

To which Romney, were he not a robot, should have replied, "Well, at least I didn't get kicked out of the House (effectively) by my own party."

I'm beginning to think that non of them have opposition research teams. They don't seem to know anything about each other.

302 SpaceJesus  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:40:00pm

"I am consistently insane" - Rick Santorum

303 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:40:02pm

How in hell does Santorum poll higher than Huntsman?

304 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:40:13pm

re: #293 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Hey, moderators, when the frak are you going to moderate?!

Diane Sawyer is now regretting that extra Xanax she washed down with a glass of vodka before the debate.

305 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:40:25pm

re: #299 Girth

Perry's arguments are irreducibly complex, therefore they must have had an intelligent designer. Obviously it wasn't Rick Perry.

LMAO!

306 freetoken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:40:44pm

GOP debate on one side of the screen... COP on the other side...

GOP/COP - I'm so confused.

307 BongCrodny  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:40:49pm

re: #301 moderatelyradicalliberal

I'm beginning to think that non of them have opposition research teams. They don't seem to know anything about each other.

Tough to take the other guys seriously when God told you to run.

308 Decatur Deb  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:40:49pm

re: #303 negativ

How in hell does Santorum poll higher than Huntsman?

(R)

309 Lidane  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:40:51pm

re: #303 negativ

How in hell does Santorum poll higher than Huntsman?

Because working with Obama really is that much of a sin in the GOP.

310 jaunte  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:40:59pm

@ashong:

Romney is ridiculous. Did he just propose to make a 10K bet?? Bruh, you are as Wall Street as it gets.

311 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:41:05pm

re: #303 negativ

How in hell does Santorum poll higher than Huntsman?

It's Iowa. Corn polls better than Huntsman.

312 Alexzander  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:41:06pm

re: #295 Charles

Bachmann: "We have one shot to get rid of Obamacare!" Kill it! Kill it with fire!

Obamacare?!?!? It turned me into a newt!
....
I got better.

313 allegro  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:41:23pm

Wait, when Michele WAS in the Congress? Did she resign her seat?

314 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:41:40pm

And I tackled Nancy Pelosi and bit her on the ankle...

315 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:41:52pm

re: #303 negativ

How in hell does Santorum poll higher than Huntsman?

Forget it negativ, it's Iowa.

316 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:42:06pm

re: #310 jaunte

@ashong:

Perry missed an opportunity there to make a fool outa him, but he's not all that clever.

317 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:42:17pm

re: #303 negativ

How in hell does Santorum poll higher than Huntsman?

Because they already have a good looking, boring Mormon.

318 Lidane  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:42:20pm

re: #313 allegro

Wait, when Michele WAS in the Congress? Did she resign her seat?

Sadly, no. Minnesota is still stuck with her.

319 BongCrodny  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:42:25pm

I must know hundreds of unemployed guys who can bet $10,000 a pop.

320 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:42:28pm

Is it too late to call up Buckingham Palace, apologize for the whole revolution, and ask to be taken back?

/

321 Interesting Times  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:42:30pm

re: #306 freetoken

GOP debate on one side of the screen... COP on the other side...

GOP/COP - I'm so confused.

One is an abject object lesson in humanity's downfall and ultimate doom. The other is a climate conference.

322 palomino  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:42:32pm

re: #309 Lidane

Because working with Obama really is that much of a sin in the GOP.

Sad but true. In the eyes of the gop base, It makes him a traitor, to the party and the country.

323 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:42:38pm

re: #303 negativ

How in hell does Santorum poll higher than Huntsman?

Hatred of gays warms the Republican soul.

324 freetoken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:42:42pm

Sawyer... sigh.

325 SpaceJesus  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:42:49pm

BROWNS!

326 allegro  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:42:57pm

re: #318 Lidane

Sadly, no. Minnesota is still stuck with her.

She doesn't seem to know that. Just cashes the check I guess.

327 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:42:58pm

Someone needs to punch Diane in the face.

My militancy is showing.

328 jaunte  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:43:08pm

@fivethirtyeight:
Keep in mind that it really is a six-candidate race in Iowa. Anybody on this stage could win the state.

OMG!

329 Linden Arden  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:43:08pm

"Them damn people with pre-exsting conditions are ruining America!"

330 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:43:31pm

THat $10,000 bet is going to really help Romney identify with the common guy...they make $10,000 bets all the time...when they're shitfaced drunk.

331 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:43:37pm

re: #313 allegro

Wait, when Michele WAS in the Congress? Did she resign her seat?

No such luck.

332 funky chicken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:43:52pm

Ech. I had to put my beagle on a diet. She's behaving like she believes I'm just forgetting to feed her. It's driving me crazy.

She's still less annoying than the people in that "debate." Again, thanks to you folks who can stand to watch and provide the play-by-play.

333 Major Tom  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:43:59pm

Fred Thompson!

334 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:44:37pm

re: #330 darthstar

THat $10,000 bet is going to really help Romney identify with the common guy...they make $10,000 bets all the time...when they're shitfaced drunk.

I don't even know a drunk man that would make a bet that big. Jeez.

335 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:44:48pm

re: #328 jaunte

@fivethirtyeight:
Keep in mind that it really is a six-candidate race in Iowa. Anybody on this stage could win the state.

OMG!

And whoever wins the nomination will likely win the state in the general.

336 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:44:52pm

re: #333 Major Tom

Fred Thompson!

hehe Fred is selling diabetes meds now? Something. I just saw him on a Lifetime ad!

337 Decatur Deb  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:45:09pm

Amy Holmes is intelligent and communicative, and she works for Glenn Beck?

338 funky chicken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:45:20pm

re: #303 negativ

How in hell does Santorum poll higher than Huntsman?

The GOP is consistently insane. Thanks spacejesus.

339 Major Tom  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:45:39pm

Bachmann is holding back her ability to elect 13 GOP senators untill elected. Then she will unleash her power.

340 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:45:50pm

re: #325 SpaceJesus

BROWNS!

What, are we discussing fried chicken now?

/local reference

341 Lidane  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:46:01pm

re: #334 thedopefishlives

I don't even know a drunk man that would make a bet that big. Jeez.

The last drunk I knew who bet that big was a stock broker who went to Club Fed for embezzling from his clients.

I'm not surprised that Romney reminds me of him. =P

342 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:46:04pm

re: #334 thedopefishlives

I don't even know a drunk man that would make a bet that big. Jeez.

It's not a bet you ever have to pay. example: "I'll bet you $10,000 I can pee on that electric fence! Hold my beer."

343 SpaceJesus  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:46:12pm

"There is nothing coherent about what any of these people have planned to fix the economy."

344 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:46:54pm

This isn't so much a debate as a barely controlled verbal brawl.

345 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:47:00pm

re: #342 darthstar

It's not a bet you ever have to pay. example: "I'll bet you $10,000 I can pee on that electric fence! Hold my beer."

Yeah, in my neck of the woods, $10,000 is a number you see on a game show, not something you actually say to someone.

346 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:47:03pm

Ok, punching Diane might be over the top. Maybe just knock her down.

Step on her fingers.

Kick her in the groin.

I mean, in a slap stick, sort of Three Stooges kinda way. Nyuk Nyuk.

347 Lidane  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:47:22pm

re: #344 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

This isn't so much a debate as a barely controlled verbal brawl.

It's also prime video material for the DNC in the general election.

348 freetoken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:48:28pm

ABC trying to reinterpret what I saw... telling me what to think.

I know what I think about the debate - the Russian delegate just said his plane leaves in 2 hours, so the debate will be over..

Oh, wait, I'm confusing the clusterfucks again...

349 funky chicken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:48:30pm

re: #304 darthstar

Diane Sawyer is now regretting that extra Xanax she washed down with a glass of vodka before the debate.

LOL. It would be the only way I'd get through it.

350 freetoken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:48:53pm

GOD!!

351 Major Tom  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:49:09pm

Wow. They went there.

352 jaunte  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:49:15pm

Now we'll see who's closer to Heaven.

353 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:49:27pm

Loaded question.

*singsong voice*

354 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:49:44pm

re: #351 Major Tom

Wow. They went there.

I'm only listening to the debate, does Newt look like somebody just slapped him?

355 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:49:53pm

And they all try not to make eye contact with you-know-who.

356 jaunte  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:49:55pm

Perry has his church face on.

357 Lidane  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:50:15pm

re: #349 funky chicken

LOL. It would be the only way I'd get through it.

If I was moderating this nonsense, I'd be sitting there, glass of wine in hand, with a bottle on the table.

358 Major Tom  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:50:16pm

He looks like he is holding his butt closed.

359 EdDantes  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:50:27pm

I predicted in the spring here that the Republicans (my party) would form a circular firing squad. Witness.

360 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:50:27pm

Nevermind, just looked at the video. Newt's got that face that goes with the saying "If looks could kill..."

361 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:50:29pm

Oooh, it's getting personal now. All up in Newt's infidelity.

I wish somebody would confront Gingrich on his blatant contempt for the judiciary though.

362 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:50:34pm

re: #356 jaunte

Perry has his church face on.

Doth protest too loudly?

363 Lidane  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:50:38pm

re: #358 Major Tom

He looks like he is holding his butt closed.

He probably is. ROFL.

364 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:50:46pm

Oh boy.

This is uncomfortable.

Who knows what you do in the dark? I don't care about these freaks' personal lives. I care about the way they handle themselves when they're in charge of people, not when they're in love with them.

365 freetoken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:50:56pm

The Russians are unhappy... Newt is unhappy.

Who will be more dickish?

366 SpaceJesus  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:51:04pm

look at that giant fucking bullseye on gingrich's head right now

367 Lidane  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:51:30pm

re: #365 freetoken

The Russians are unhappy... Newt is unhappy.

Who will be more dickish?

Newt, hands down.

368 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:51:33pm

re: #357 Lidane

If I was moderating this nonsense, I'd be sitting there, glass of wine in hand, with a bottle on the table.

Screw that. I'd have the bottle in hand and the glass on the table. ;)

369 Decatur Deb  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:51:37pm

re: #364 Obdicut

Oh boy.

This is uncomfortable.

Who knows what you do in the dark? I don't care about these freak's personal lives. I care about the way they handle themselves when they're in charge of people, not when they're in love with them.

But they all love you. Ask them.

370 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:51:39pm

re: #358 Major Tom

He looks like he is holding his butt closed.

He's got a 10,000 dollar bet with Romney that he can hold a bull-whip in his ass for the entire debate.

371 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:51:51pm

"We shouldn't have to talk about it. Let me just mention that I've been married 54 years, but let's not talk about it."

372 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:51:56pm

Hey Newt, you understand now how Caeser felt on the Ides of March?

373 Lidane  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:51:58pm

re: #368 thedopefishlives

Screw that. I'd have the bottle in hand and the glass on the table. ;)

I never said how big the glass was. ;)

374 Auntie Christ  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:52:09pm

"GOP Debates will continue until morale improves..."

...that blows my mind more than the age old question of "what is the sound of one hand clapping."


How very ZEN of those who follow a prophet from Nazareth.

Oh, and do be kind to dear old Auntie, I've been a fan of this site for many years, tho' I just did sign up this evening.

375 BongCrodny  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:52:49pm

I want to live in RonPaultopia. It sounds lovely.

376 Major Tom  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:52:56pm

re: #371 Obdicut

Nice jab for an old man.

377 EdDantes  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:52:56pm

re: #372 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Hey Newt, you under now how Caeser felt on the Ides of March?

Read his will!

378 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:53:04pm

So basically, a single person could never, ever be Pres?

379 Charleston Chew  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:53:19pm

Romney: "You can tell how deep I am by my old 30 second tv ads."

380 Decatur Deb  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:53:23pm

re: #375 BongCrodny

I want to live in RonPaultopia. It sounds lovely.

Are you good with a toilet brush?

381 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:53:25pm

I think that's Tagg Romney next to his mother.

382 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:53:37pm

How long can Newt's ham keep under hot lights? Let's find out as we ask him last about infidelity.

383 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:53:43pm

Let's just go ahead and elect the person with the highest number of grandkids president.

Alouette, you're up!

384 jaunte  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:53:44pm

re: #378 marjoriemoon

Never; it would be as unthinkable as an atheist being president.

385 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:53:57pm

Yeah, leave Newt til last, so we can see the steam come out of his ears on live stream.

386 Lidane  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:54:03pm

re: #370 darthstar

He's got a 10,000 dollar bet with Romney that he can hold a bull-whip in his ass for the entire debate.

And now I've got that Christopher Walken scene from Pulp Fiction in my head. Haha.

387 palomino  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:54:17pm

re: #381 EmmmieG

I think that's Tagg Romney next to his mother.

How come Romney and Palin gave their kids the same names?

Or nearly so?

388 freetoken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:54:18pm

No, Michelle, they meant "man", because women weren't allowed to vote.

389 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:54:23pm

They are balancing what they can point out about themselves with the knowledge that a large percentage of voters are not still on their first spouse.

390 funky chicken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:54:25pm

re: #357 Lidane

I'd also need a pack of Camel filter 100s. And I quit smoking 15+ years ago. LOL.

391 Linden Arden  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:54:33pm

Newt only cheated because he loves America so much.

392 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:54:35pm

Santorum: I'm fertile! I've got seven kids.
Romney: I'm fertile and so are my kids! I've got five kids and sixteen grand kids!
Bachmann: 70% of my county has seen my womb.

393 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:54:36pm

Was that WC Fields in the audience?

394 jaunte  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:54:42pm

Michelle is unashamed, if anyone wants to know.

395 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:54:43pm

Oh God, will these people PLEASE stop talking about God?

396 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:54:46pm

They just showed Bachmann's Big Gay Husband.

397 Major Tom  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:54:49pm

Last and, well, least. Newt.

398 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:54:54pm

Oh man, that's her husband LOL

399 Four More Tears  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:55:02pm

Mom: "Perry's dumb! He's dumber than Bachmann! How the hell has he gotten so far in politics?"

Me: "Texas."

400 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:55:10pm

Did Michelle Bachman marry Bob's Big Boy?

401 Lidane  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:55:12pm

re: #390 funky chicken

I'd also need a pack of Camel filter 100s. And I quit smoking 15+ years ago. LOL.

I don't even smoke and I'd need a cigarette for this crap. =P

402 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:55:15pm

Oh, the harpy.

403 JAFO  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:55:16pm

now the question is derrailed, Newt gets it easy.

404 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:55:19pm

re: #396 moderatelyradicalliberal

They just showed Bachmann's Big Gay Husband.

And maybe a little drunk.

405 Four More Tears  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:55:23pm

re: #395 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Oh God, will these people PLEASE stop talking about God?

Heathen!

406 Charleston Chew  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:55:24pm

Thanks to all these debates, the DNC must be building the greatest political video clip archive ever.

407 BongCrodny  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:55:39pm

Calista looks like one woman you would not want to cross.

408 SpaceJesus  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:55:45pm

browns!

409 jaunte  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:55:50pm

Appearances shouldn't matter, but Callista just Stepfords me out.

410 Major Tom  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:56:13pm

She let's Romney get a pass on Religion, but jabs Newt on Divorces... Just sayin.

411 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:56:14pm

Diane's fucked up.

412 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:56:28pm

re: #346 marjoriemoon

Ok, punching Diane might be over the top. Maybe just knock her down.

Step on her fingers.

Kick her in the groin.

I mean, in a slap stick, sort of Three Stooges kinda way. Nyuk Nyuk.

Debate moderators are often under orders to not piss off the candidates. This is because the corporation they work for wants to continue televising debates an wants the eventual nominee to spend money advertising on that corp's network. So while we'd all like to see truly hard-nitting questions asked by debate moderators, that is not going to happen.

413 Altermite  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:56:35pm

re: #410 Major Tom

She let's Romney get a pass on Religion, but jabs Newt on Divorces... Just sayin.

More pertinent anyways.

414 SpaceJesus  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:56:38pm

man i wish johnson was still in this

415 bratwurst  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:56:39pm

On Newt's home planet, being a 68 year old grandfather trumps being a scumbag in your 30s, 40s and 50s.

416 Lidane  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:56:50pm

re: #406 Charleston Chew

Thanks to all these debates, the DNC must be building the greatest political video clip archive ever.

And if they don't use it in the general election, they're fucking morons.

417 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:57:10pm

re: #407 BongCrodny

Calista looks like one woman you would not want to cross.

Yeah she might peck you to death. She's like a vulture that swoops in and flies way with other women's husbands.

418 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:57:19pm

See, if someone just snuck up behind her, they could give a good yank on her jacket and she'd go down pretty quick.

We could knock down Newt, too, for good measure.

419 freetoken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:57:25pm

The moon is full.

I knew there was a cause.

420 JAFO  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:57:56pm

re: #416 Lidane

And if they don't use it in the general election, they're fucking morons.

They aren't and they are.

421 SpaceJesus  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:57:57pm

romney is looking at newt like a hungry but confused snake

422 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:58:02pm

Newt's resembling somebody I've seen before...oh yeah, George W Bush!

423 Altermite  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:58:10pm

It'll help so much! Like Alabama!

424 Charleston Chew  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:58:10pm

Money is the official language of government.

425 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:58:28pm

re: #412 Dark_Falcon

Debate moderators are often under orders to not piss off the candidates. This is because the corporation they work for wants to continue televising debates an wants the eventual nominee to spend money advertising on that corp's network. So while we'd all like to see truly hard-nitting questions asked by debate moderators, that is not going to happen.

But the dripping sweetness or whatever the hell it is, is driving me insane. I have the same reaction to Peggy Noonan.

426 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:58:49pm

Stephalococcus has been quiet tonight.

427 funky chicken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:58:50pm

re: #409 jaunte

Appearances shouldn't matter, but Callista just Stepfords me out.

She took a picture of Cindy McCain to a bad plastic surgeon.

428 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:58:51pm

Newt comes out for a guest worker policy.

429 Alexzander  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:59:07pm

re: #414 SpaceJesus

man i wish johnson was still in this

I'd take a libertarian over a republican any day of the week, and Johnson was much more grounded than Paul. Although I gotta love Paul's naive utopianism, it's adorable.

430 Girth  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:59:17pm

re: #424 Charleston Chew

Money is the official language of government.

Statement of the century.

431 Decatur Deb  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:59:30pm

Good-bye to my Juan, good-bye Rosalita...

432 jaunte  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:59:33pm

25 years seems like a significant commitment of taxpaying.

433 Four More Tears  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:59:36pm

Oh yeah, they're gonna be lining up to pay that penalty...

434 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:59:42pm

re: #407 BongCrodny

Calista looks like one woman you would not want to cross.

[Link: www.somethingawful.com...]


"I have to follow him around and get stared at like a baby mouse being looked at by a scorpion by his wife Callistus. I'm just waiting for her to spray me with some perfume and I start melting and then she can siphon me up through her hidden feeding nozzle thing while her husband tells me about what if the Apache discovered submarines."

435 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:59:42pm

re: #421 SpaceJesus

romney is looking at newt like a hungry but confused snake

He better be careful. The nasty ass Newt don't give a shit.

436 Lidane  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:59:46pm

Now trending on Twitter -- Romneybets:

[Link: twitter.com...]

Heh.

437 freetoken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 6:59:59pm

re: #432 jaunte

Newt wants them here longer than he'll keep a wife.

438 BongCrodny  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:00:09pm

re: #426 darthstar

Stephalococcus has been quiet tonight.

Stephalupagus!

439 SpaceJesus  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:00:13pm

re: #429 Alexzander

I'd take a libertarian over a republican any day of the week, and Johnson was much more grounded than Paul. Although I gotta love Paul's naive utopianism, it's adorable.

johnson would troll them into oblivion on immigration with ideas that aren't racist

440 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:00:25pm

Romney, Romney...Mitt! Being a bigot isn't going to win you the election. It might win you the Jesus freaks in Iowa, but it won't win the election.

441 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:00:31pm

Securing the border is virtually impossible. So, when a candidate says "Do that first, then we talk about reform...," they're bullshitting you.

442 Lidane  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:00:50pm

Also, the Twitter snark over this debate is hilarious:

[Link: twitter.com...]

443 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:01:09pm

re: #374 Auntie Christ

"GOP Debates will continue until morale improves..."

...that blows my mind more than the age old question of "what is the sound of one hand clapping."

How very ZEN of those who follow a prophet from Nazareth.

Oh, and do be kind to dear old Auntie, I've been a fan of this site for many years, tho' I just did sign up this evening.

Welcome!

444 SpaceJesus  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:01:11pm

re: #441 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

most americans have no idea what its like on the border, so they believe it

445 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:01:12pm

re: #441 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Securing the border is virtually impossible. So, when a candidate says "Do that first, then we talk about reform...," they're bullshitting you.

Easier than that. When a candidate opens his/her mouth, they're bullshitting you.

446 freetoken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:01:33pm

Intellectual discussions take intellects, Rick.

447 jaunte  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:01:58pm

These people on stage don't have much reason to care how expensive fruit and vegetables might get after the undocumented workforce gets chased out.

448 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:02:15pm

re: #444 SpaceJesus

most americans have no idea what its like on the border, so they believe it

They likely believe the border is just a stretch of land that they can build a Berlin Wall-like structure across. Good luck with that.

449 BongCrodny  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:02:27pm

Rick's getting weird again.

450 funky chicken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:02:30pm

re: #412 Dark_Falcon

Debate moderators are often under orders to not piss off the candidates. This is because the corporation they work for wants to continue televising debates an wants the eventual nominee to spend money advertising on that corp's network. So while we'd all like to see truly hard-nitting questions asked by debate moderators, that is not going to happen.

Which would explain the xanax and vodka prescription. LOL

451 Boyo  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:02:39pm

haha paper shuffles perry freezes

452 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:02:47pm

The military accepts undocumented immigrants because they don't see them as a threat.

453 Girth  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:03:02pm

Perry: No catch and release.

When we catch something in Texas we fry it!

454 SpaceJesus  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:03:11pm

oh shit here comes paul

455 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:03:22pm

Yeep, they start that one off with Paul??

456 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:03:39pm

re: #453 Girth

Perry: No catch and release.

When we catch something in Texas we fry it!

Perry: first we catch, then we rape, THEN we release

457 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:03:48pm

re: #453 Girth

That hand gesture was really weird. And the 'violent situation' bit. I was worried we wouldn't have a weird Perry moment tonight, but that was good enough for me.

458 Lidane  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:03:48pm
The 45th President @NEWTGINGRlCH

13 bestsellers and building a lunar colony. I am, quite frankly, the most interesting Republican in the world. #IowaDebate #RepublicanDebate

459 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:03:52pm

Um... the "Palestinians" at the start of the Ottoman Empire WERE JEWS.

460 freetoken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:04:04pm

It's a sad thing to say, when Ron Paul makes more sense than the leading GOP candidate.

461 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:04:15pm

"Yeah, Newt was wrong...well, technically correct, but wrong for saying it like that!"

Ugh.

462 Major Tom  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:04:29pm

re: #460 freetoken

Occasionally.

463 Alexzander  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:04:40pm

re: #455 marjoriemoon

Yeep, they start that one off with Paul??

Pretty transparent attempt to get him to say something offensive...

464 Linden Arden  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:04:44pm

Reagan won the Cold War against the Ottoman Empire.

465 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:05:01pm

re: #460 freetoken

It's a sad thing to say, when Ron Paul makes more sense than the leading GOP candidate.

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

466 Altermite  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:05:08pm

I can't tell if RP is going to surge or flatline after this. I've given up predicting GOP debate reactions.

467 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:05:27pm

And Newt goes for the Israeli vote.

468 Altermite  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:05:39pm

Yes, very brave to call hamas a terrorist organization. Nobody has done that before!

469 SpaceJesus  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:05:54pm

lol

470 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:05:57pm

I think Obama has the courage to call Hamas terrorists.

That's why they're on the list of terrorists, as terrorists.

471 Four More Tears  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:06:07pm

67 borders! Drink!

472 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:06:25pm

Newt just lies about the middle east and then says we need to not lie about the middle east? Show me a textbook that teaches 13 year olds to subtract by killing Jews, Newt. Way to throw fuel on the fire.

473 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:06:29pm

Romney lies again, on the 1967 borders thing.

Just a plain lie.

And the audience is fine with being lied to. They like it.

474 Girth  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:06:50pm

re: #464 Linden Arden

Reagan won the Cold War against the Ottoman Empire.

Reagan won the Cold War against the Borg without firing a shot!

475 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:06:59pm

Yes, we stand with the Israeli people...no matter how fucking crazy they act or what shit they drag us into.

476 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:06:59pm

re: #467 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

And Newt goes for the Israeli vote.

How many delegates does Israel have?

477 BongCrodny  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:07:14pm

re: #466 Altermite

I can't tell if RP is going to surge or flatline after this. I've given up predicting GOP debate reactions.

They're running out of surgees.

478 jaunte  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:07:17pm

Newt denying he's added any fuel to the fire.

479 Major Tom  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:07:31pm

Newt is doubling down... as always.

480 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:07:43pm

re: #476 darthstar

How many delegates does Israel have?

Eleventy.

481 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:07:54pm

So what should we call them, Newt? Stateless Arabs? What is the point of not calling them Palestinians.

482 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:08:00pm

Somebody wanna get a mop? I think Pam's drooling over Newt.

483 jaunte  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:08:09pm

Private sector historian.

484 Major Tom  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:08:25pm

Is Bachmann still there?

485 Alexzander  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:08:37pm

re: #476 darthstar

How many delegates does Israel have?

Seriously. I don't really get the strategy.

486 freetoken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:08:41pm

Nixon knew B.B. too.... oh, that was a different BB.

487 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:08:52pm

All of what Newt says is true, but Israel themselves have moved past it. They're living with what exists now.

Romney is also very correct on his point.

488 Linden Arden  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:09:02pm

re: #484 Major Tom

Is Bachmann still there?

In her own way.

489 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:09:02pm

re: #481 Obdicut

So what should we call them, Newt? Stateless Arabs? What is the point of not calling them Palestinians.

I'm sure there's all kinds of the usual dehumanizing perjoratives they have in the hopper

490 Girth  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:09:02pm

HE IS FUCKING WINKING!

491 bratwurst  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:09:06pm

Wow, Mitt knows Netanyahu so well that he calls him "Bibi". I am impressed!

492 Alexzander  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:09:17pm

Gingrich just winked again. WTF

493 EdDantes  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:09:35pm

Romney and Newt are on a first name basis with "Bebee". Sounds phoney.

494 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:09:38pm

Reagan! DRINK!

495 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:09:41pm

REAGAN OVERLOAD
glug glug glug

496 JAFO  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:09:43pm

It's a tick.

497 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:09:44pm

re: #490 Girth

HE IS FUCKING WINKING!

that means he's in heat

498 blueraven  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:09:45pm

Why does Newt keep winking?

499 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:09:48pm

REAGAN! *GULP*

500 Four More Tears  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:09:53pm

Wow, that's a lotta Reagan in that there sentence.

501 Charleston Chew  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:09:58pm

re: #485 Alexzander

Seriously. I don't really get the strategy.

In a word - Florida.

502 jaunte  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:10:01pm

Reagan again! Again, and Again.
"And I'm brave, too, not timid."

503 Major Tom  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:10:11pm

Always looking for the next ex-Mrs Gingrich....

504 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:10:13pm

re: #492 Alexzander

Gingrich just winked again. WTF

he's gonna get mounted if he keeps that up

505 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:10:23pm

re: #481 Obdicut

So what should we call them, Newt? Stateless Arabs? What is the point of not calling them Palestinians.

I don't call them Palestinians either, because I view it as legitimizing their claim to Israel. But that doesn't mean it's necessarily an improper title - they live in the land of Palestine. They self-identify as Palestinians. It's as good a title as any for someone who would be dealing diplomatically with them.

506 SpaceJesus  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:10:23pm

this crazy winger worked on a kibbutz?

507 Girth  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:10:35pm

re: #497 WindUpBird

that means he's in heat

He found his fourth wife in the second row.

508 Boyo  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:10:35pm

michelle's got chootz pah

509 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:10:35pm

Ahhh! Bachmman's a socialist! She worked a kibbutz!

510 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:11:00pm

Are they running for President? Or Prime Minister of Israel?

511 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:11:14pm

re: #419 freetoken

The moon is full.

I knew there was a cause.

Youtube Video
512 freetoken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:11:14pm

Michelle... "descendant of apes"...

oh well.

513 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:11:20pm

re: #485 Alexzander

Seriously. I don't really get the strategy.

It's a proxy. That's all it's become.

It's kind of interesting, in a bizarre way. It infects everyone. There was some left-wing dude in here the other day who was saying that Israel was happy the US invaded Iraq, and so the Jew-counting that Adbusters did of neocon Jews was relevant to the Iraq War.

Only problem is that Israel didn't want the US to invade Iraq. Their #1 enemy is Iran, followed by the rabble of Hamas. I have no idea why people use Israel as this lens to focus their views through, but it's a distorting lens.

514 Altermite  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:11:30pm

re: #506 SpaceJesus

this crazy winger worked on a kibbutz?

Yeah, but not a socialist one!

515 Lidane  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:11:31pm

re: #501 Charleston Chew

In a word - Florida.

In two more words -- Christian Zionism. Rabid support of Israel is a cornerstone of the religious right. Israel needs to exist for Jesus to come back, or something.

516 Linden Arden  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:11:56pm

re: #490 Girth

HE IS FUCKING WINKING!

Sarah Palin is coaching him.

517 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:12:04pm

re: #505 thedopefishlives

I don't call them Palestinians either, because I view it as legitimizing their claim to Israel.

So what do you call them?

518 SpaceJesus  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:12:05pm

re: #514 Altermite

lol yeah right

519 BongCrodny  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:12:26pm

"Ronald Reagan provided that truth."

Ewww.

520 Alexzander  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:12:39pm

re: #506 SpaceJesus

this crazy winger worked on a kibbutz?

The day she finished college she flew to Israel. On paper her resume is fucking impressive.

521 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:13:19pm

Ok, Bill and Hillary and a number of congress people fought the bigoted textbook issue for years and made very little leeway. She doesn't even mention that. The Clintons fought for years about it. It's partly the U.N. problem and they lied to the Clintons too.

522 SpaceJesus  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:13:21pm

the problems in the middle east started with obama guys

523 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:13:23pm

re: #512 freetoken

Michelle... "descendant of apes"...

oh well.

Well, you and me are also descendants of apes, as are all humans. Though Bachmann will deny that truth to her last breath.

524 jvic  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:13:24pm

re: #429 Alexzander

I'd take a libertarian over a republican any day of the week, and Johnson was much more grounded than Paul. Although I gotta love Paul's naive utopianism, it's adorable.

Gary Johnson on the military:

Our military should remain the most potent force for good on Earth. To do this, we should resort to military action as the last option and only as provided in the Constitution.

Apparently we'll keep funding the most powerful military on the planet but make every effort to never use it. Naive utopianism or lying through his teeth?

Johnson was my guy, but he lost me with this.

525 Girth  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:13:30pm

Obama is causing the problems in the middle east.

That tricksy Obama and his time machine.

526 Major Tom  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:13:35pm

Oh perry. I just think you need a hug.

527 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:13:42pm

Obama is causing the problems in the middle east.

All of them.

528 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:13:47pm

re: #515 Lidane

In two more words -- Christian Zionism. Rabid support of Israel is a cornerstone of the religious right. Israel needs to exist for Jesus to come back, or something.

Have to kill a magic cow in order to build the magic building that will summon Jesus.

[Link: www.escapeallthesethings.com...]

529 Auntie Christ  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:13:48pm

re: #443 moderatelyradicalliberal

Thank you very much, it's so nice and refreshing to see people here seeking what's best for this country and the world which we all share, or, at least, should share.

530 Targetpractice  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:13:49pm

re: #522 SpaceJesus

the problems in the middle east started with obama guys

That dick!

/

531 Decatur Deb  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:13:54pm

Did Santorum just annex the West Bank?

532 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:13:54pm
[Obama] is causing the problems in the middle east.

Umm.

533 Four More Tears  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:13:57pm

Actually had three... lol

534 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:14:04pm

re: #515 Lidane

In two more words -- Christian Zionism. Rabid support of Israel is a cornerstone of the religious right. Israel needs to exist for Jesus to come back, or something.

Yeah, I really don't think Jews are the target audience. Just like when the GOP used to try to hide the racism, it wasn't for people of color it was for white suburbanites who didn't want to knowingly vote for a racist party.

535 SpaceJesus  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:14:20pm

perry apparently knows exactly what goes on inside the pentagon, at all times.

536 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:14:25pm

re: #515 Lidane

In two more words -- Christian Zionism. Rabid support of Israel is a cornerstone of the religious right. Israel needs to exist for Jesus to come back, or something.

If Jesus came back, a republican administration would fight him off :D

537 darthstar  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:14:31pm

Did Rick Perry just lick Newt's sack?

538 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:14:33pm

Note to Perry: The RQ-130 is NOT a Predator!

/Why do I even bother?

539 Linden Arden  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:14:35pm

re: #522 SpaceJesus

the problems in the middle east started with obama guys

We were greeted with flowers - now look!

540 jaunte  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:14:35pm

Perry: "I would have put the right president in place in Egypt,
and kept our drones from crashing."
(Applause)

541 BongCrodny  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:15:01pm

Oh, this should be good.

542 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:15:23pm

"Now we have a question from Yahoo about the Jewish Lobby and International Bankers... oh wait... wrong question...."

543 BongCrodny  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:15:23pm

re: #537 darthstar

Did Rick Perry just lick Newt's sack?

You saw that too, huh?

544 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:15:35pm

re: #535 SpaceJesus

perry apparently knows exactly what goes on inside the pentagon, at all times.

"I THINK i DO, THAT'S WHERE THEY MAIL THE BOMBS AND TANKS TO EYE-RAQ"

545 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:15:35pm

re: #534 moderatelyradicalliberal

Yeah, I really don't think Jews are the target audience. Just like when the GOP used to try to hide the racism, it wasn't for people of color it was for white suburbanites who didn't want to knowingly vote for a racist party.

Yes, Jews are definitely not the actual target of the pandering about Israel.

Nor are Israelis. Santorum just annexed the West Bank, which is not an idea with majority support in Israel.

His support is rather obviously based on the land of Israel, as a sacred thing. If Israel decided to trade land, to alter borders, I think Santorum wouldn't support them.

546 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:16:09pm

re: #535 SpaceJesus

perry apparently knows exactly what goes on inside the pentagon, at all times.

He also thinks it has 4 sides.

547 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:16:26pm

re: #540 jaunte

Perry: "I would have put the right president in place in Egypt,
and kept our drones from crashing."
(Applause)

Sounds like Woodrow Wilson declaring he would "teach the Mexicans to elect good men".

548 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:16:27pm

Playbook: "Hit Newt as hard as possible."

He's coming up on 3 weeks now? Romney needs his turn.

549 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:16:50pm

re: #536 WindUpBird

If Jesus came back, a republican administration would fight him off :D

Too brown and swarthy looking.

550 Four More Tears  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:17:15pm

re: #540 jaunte

Perry: "I would have put the right president in place in Egypt,

(Applause)

The problem, not the solution.

551 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:17:32pm

re: #534 moderatelyradicalliberal

Yeah, I really don't think Jews are the target audience. Just like when the GOP used to try to hide the racism, it wasn't for people of color it was for white suburbanites who didn't want to knowingly vote for a racist party.

They're courting the Jewish vote and trying to humiliate Obama.

552 BongCrodny  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:17:32pm

Newt's evolved, he's expanded, he's enlarged.

553 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:17:44pm

re: #549 moderatelyradicalliberal

Too brown and swarthy looking.

Also hippie, also magic powers, also helps the poor

political threat!

554 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:20:41pm

re: #551 marjoriemoon

They're courting the Jewish vote and trying to humiliate Obama.

I'm sure they would love that, but they have won elections without Jews before. They need white evangelical votes. No other group will ever be more important.

555 krypto  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:24:07pm

re: #551 marjoriemoon

They're courting the Jewish vote and trying to humiliate Obama.

It's definitely to get the Christian Conservative vote, not the Jewish vote. The Jewish vote will go mainly to Obama no matter what Republicans say about Israel, and it's not that big a vote in the first place, especially in a Republican primary.

556 funky chicken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:31:21pm

re: #492 Alexzander

Gingrich just winked again. WTF

He thinks you're cute and wouldn't mind a roll in the hay. Don't worry about Mrs. Gingrich. Or the former Mrs. Gingriches.

557 funky chicken  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 7:37:17pm

re: #547 Dark_Falcon

Sounds like Woodrow Wilson declaring he would "teach the Mexicans to elect good men".

Well, it was a good idea.

558 sagehen  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 8:03:44pm

re: #475 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds

Yes, we stand with the Israeli people...no matter how fucking crazy they act or what shit they drag us into.

Except for the socialized medicine and free univeristy for everyone and gay commandos and a full five per cent of the nation's population camped out in the parks and squares and streets of Tel Aviv to protest economic inequality and lack of affordable housing... those parts the R's are going to pretend not to know about.

559 sagehen  Sat, Dec 10, 2011 8:10:30pm

re: #551 marjoriemoon

They're courting the Jewish vote and trying to humiliate Obama.

They're wasting their time trying to court the Jewish vote.

Every time one of them talks about putting Christian values into law, our grandparents have flashbacks and run as fast as they can in the opposite direction.


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