Video: Obama Defends UN Amb. Susan Rice Against Right Wing Craziness

Pushback against the right’s fake rage over Benghazi
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At today’s press conference, President Obama strongly defended UN Ambassador Susan Rice against the scurrilous attacks from John McCain and Lindsey Graham:

Whoever writes the headlines for Fox Nation (the knuckle-dragging “community site” of Fox News) seems to believe they have Obama right where they want him: Obama Falls Into Benghazi Trap - ‘Benghazi-Gate’ - Fox Nation.

The Fox Nation “community” reacts in their customary way:

Rice always looks like she came off a week long drunk. Her face looks like someone hit her numerous times with a skillet too. Flat face. She also walks like she rides a really broad horse every night.

[…]

Hmmm tribesmen big blck chief stickum foot in mouth and then chewed on it.

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4 dead white American heros, I’m wondering what if they were black and W was president do you think the blacks would be so complacent???

Et cetera, et cetera.

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1 Bulworth  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 12:40:00pm
4 dead white American heros,

At least the RWNJ aren't still criticizing the heros embassy for releasing a statement achnowledging the effects of an anti-Muslim video. /

2 erik_t  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 12:41:04pm

I'm trying to think of any time the phrase 'the blacks' can ever be used with any sort of decency in any field of discussion.

Maybe a game of Go?

3 Kragar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 12:41:09pm

Why can't these assholes fucking self rapture and we can be done with them?

4 Kragar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 12:42:00pm

re: #2 erik_t

I'm trying to think of any time the phrase 'the blacks' can ever be used with any sort of decency in any field of discussion.

Maybe a game of Go?

Rugby? Checkers?

5 sunnygal  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 12:42:31pm

ugly, ugly, ugly, I write from my hospital bed while trying to recover from equally ugly hernia surgery. I should know better than to log into anything from FOX News while not feeling well.

6 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 12:44:37pm

I still don't understand what the Benghazi conspiracy theorists are even alleging was covered up. What are they saying is the conspiracy? It doesn't make any sense to me.

7 Kragar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 12:45:05pm

John McCain Supported Condi Rice After Massive Intelligence Failure

McCain took a far different approach to another Rice in 2005. When President George W. Bush nominated National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice to the post, McCain defended the nomination, despite Rice’s central role in spreading the false intelligence that Saddam Hussein was developing weapons of mass destruction. The Democrats held hours of hearing and ultimately confirmed Rice, but not before McCain accused the opposition of using politics to delay her confirmation and challenging her “integrity”:

McCAIN: Condoleezza Rice is a great American success story. This is what America is all about. A young woman who grew up in a segregated part of America where Americans were not treated equally, to rise to the position of secretary of state. We should have been celebrating, I believe, this remarkable American success story.

Also, I thought that some of the remarks — and I’m not going to mention my colleagues’ names — some of the remarks aimed at her during the hearings challenged her integrity. We can disagree on policy and we disagree on a lot of things, but I think it is very clear that Condoleezza Rice is a person of integrity. And yes, I see this, some lingering bitterness over a very tough campaign. I hope it dissipates soon.

“I can only conclude we’re doing this for no other reason than because of lingering bitterness at the outcome of the elections,” McCain told CBS Morning News on January 27, 2005.

8 blueraven  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 12:45:16pm

re: #6 Obdicut

I still don't understand what the Benghazi conspiracy theorists are even alleging was covered up. What are they saying is the conspiracy? It doesn't make any sense to me.

It changes daily...none of it coherent.

9 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 12:46:23pm

..continued from previous thread...

Duneghazi

10 Bulworth  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 12:47:12pm
“I can only conclude we’re doing this for no other reason than because of lingering bitterness at the outcome of the elections,” McCain told CBS Morning News on January 27, 2005.

Ha

11 Kragar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 12:47:24pm

re: #9 Sol Berdinowitz

..continued from previous thread...

Duneghazi

The derp must flow...

12 Lidane  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 12:47:46pm

re: #6 Obdicut

I still don't understand what the Benghazi conspiracy theorists are even alleging was covered up. What are they saying is the conspiracy? It doesn't make any sense to me.

BENGAHZI! BENGHAZI! BENGHAZI! Eleventy!

It was supposed to lead to Obama's electoral defeat, but that backfired.

I guess now it's supposed to lead to his impeachment and to President Biden. Or something.

13 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 12:47:51pm

re: #6 Obdicut

I still don't understand what the Benghazi conspiracy theorists are even alleging was covered up. What are they saying is the conspiracy? It doesn't make any sense to me.

Again, it is a matter of Higher Truths.

The Higher Truths are that Obama coddles terrorists, hates America and wants to spread secularist gay Jihad across America.

Anything that supports this point of view serves the Higher Truth.

14 darthstar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 12:47:58pm
15 Skip Intro  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 12:50:14pm

re: #2 erik_t

I'm trying to think of any time the phrase 'the blacks' can ever be used with any sort of decency in any field of discussion.

Maybe a game of Go?

Donald Trump does it all the time. Maybe they're just trying to get a little of Trump's "class" to rub off on them.

16 Bulworth  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 12:50:25pm
“I can only conclude we’re doing this for no other reason than because of lingering bitterness at the outcome of the elections,” McCain told CBS Morning News on January 27, 2005.

May someone in our librul media mention this to Saint McCain.

17 Charleston Chew  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 12:51:26pm

re: #5 sunnygal

ugly, ugly, ugly, I write from my hospital bed while trying to recover from equally ugly hernia surgery. I should know better than to log into anything from FOX News while not feeling well.

You should probably stay away from news altogether while recovering from hernia surgery. Here's a sleepy kitten instead:

Youtube Video
18 Charleston Chew  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 12:52:17pm

re: #12 Lidane

It was supposed to lead to Obama's electoral defeat, but that backfired.

I guess now it's supposed to lead to his impeachment and to President Biden. Or something.

Impeachment and then Dem Congressional gains in 2014, if '98 was any lesson.

19 Kragar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 12:53:35pm

Gov Perry vows to piss away money for the fuck of it

Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) said Tuesday that he’s throwing his support to a bill that would require applicants for unemployment benefits and food stamps to submit to a urine analysis drug screening.

“We have to remember a core mission that has been trusted to us by the people of the state: to wisely and prudently safeguard the taxpayer’s dollars and empower every Texan to reach their potential,” he said, adding that the program was part of his strategy to keep Texas “fiscally responsible.”

Florida tried this bullshit and it was a colossal waste of time, money, and resources.

20 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 12:54:58pm

re: #19 Kragar

Gov Perry vows to piss away money for the fuck of it

Florida tried this bullshit and it was a colossal waste of time, money, and resources.

I would support it as long it is expanded to cover everyone who gets money from the state, including its elected representatives.

21 Lidane  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 12:55:53pm

re: #19 Kragar

Gov Perry vows to piss away money for the fuck of it

Florida tried this bullshit and it was a colossal waste of time, money, and resources.

I will laugh when white people in this state who lose their jobs get forced to take a drug test before they get their unemployment benefits. Their inevitable whining will be hilarious.

22 blueraven  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 12:56:16pm

re: #19 Kragar

Gov Perry vows to piss away money for the fuck of it

Florida tried this bullshit and it was a colossal waste of time, money, and resources.

Nobody ever accused our dear Governor of being very smart.
But he is a first class Ass Hole...he has that going for him.

23 mr.fusion  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 12:57:10pm

Susan Rice, Van Jones, Eric Holder, Shirley Sherrod......

They all have something in common.....just can't quite put my finger on it

24 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 12:57:29pm

re: #7 Kragar

John McCain Supported Condi Rice After Massive Intelligence Failure

Maybe he prefers brown rice over white.

Image: ZDRql.png

25 mr.fusion  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 12:57:47pm

re: #21 Lidane

I will laugh when white people in this state who lose their jobs get forced to take a drug test before they get their unemployment benefits. Their inevitable whining will be hilarious.

Or business owners before they get their tax breaks

26 darthstar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 12:57:55pm

re: #20 Sol Berdinowitz

I would support it as long it is expanded to cover everyone who gets money from the state, including its elected representatives.

They're obviously using performance inhibiting drugs.

27 Kragar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 12:58:10pm

I hearby change Perry's name to Wyatt Derp.

LET IT BE DONE!

28 darthstar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 12:58:21pm

re: #24 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

Maybe he prefers brown rice over white.

Image: ZDRql.png

Stealing.

29 Bulworth  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 12:59:19pm

re: #21 Lidane

I will laugh when white people in this state who lose their jobs get forced to take a drug test before they get their unemployment benefits. Their inevitable whining will be hilarious.

Assuming the drug tests are uniformly applied.

Less government!

30 Lidane  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:00:03pm

re: #18 Charleston Chew

Impeachment and then Dem Congressional gains in 2014, if '98 was any lesson.

What's really stupid is that they have even less now than they had against Clinton, but some of these dipshits are determined to go after Obama and impeach him anyway.

Morons. All of them.

31 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:02:45pm

re: #30 Lidane

What's really stupid is that they have even less now than they had against Clinton, but some of these dipshits are determined to go after Obama and impeach him anyway.

Morons. All of them.

But not before gerrymandering everything to the point where the GOP could end up getting exactly 37 votes but still somehow wind up with a majority in the House.

32 Big Steve  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:02:47pm

re: #21 Lidane

I will laugh when white people in this state who lose their jobs get forced to take a drug test before they get their unemployment benefits. Their inevitable whining will be hilarious.

This is all a red herring. Every other year just before a new legislative session, Perry trots out a off the wall things to divert attention from the fact that education costs MUST be dealt with.

33 Kragar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:02:55pm

Joyner: 'Our President, Barack Obama, is a Wicked Man'

Rick Joyner recently hosted a special post-election webinar featuring "prophet" Bob Jones during which Jones declared that Hurricane Sandy and the subsequent Nor'easter that struck the East Coast were God's judgment for legalizing gay marriage while Joyner lamented that, according to the Bible, "our president, Barack Obama, is a wicked man" which means that, by re-electing him, "we sided with wickedness over righteousness":

Oh go fuck yourself Rick.

34 darthstar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:03:04pm

McCain spreading the butt hurt around...

35 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:03:06pm

re: #5 sunnygal

ugly, ugly, ugly, I write from my hospital bed while trying to recover from equally ugly hernia surgery. I should know better than to log into anything from FOX News while not feeling well.

I can see that being a doctor's recommendation. "…and no watching Fox News or surfing their website. We need to keep your blood pressure down."

36 Charleston Chew  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:05:01pm

Just learned something new - the origin of the word "meritocracy" as explained in "Paula Broadwell, a Hanger-On in King Petraeus’s Court" by Noam Scheiber in the New Republic.

This may be a good a time as any to remind ourselves that the term “meritocracy”—a bit like its cousin, “the best and the brightest”—wasn’t actually intended to be complimentary. It entered the lexicon through a book, “The Rise of the Meritocracy,” by the British social thinker Michael Young, who imagined a dystopian world in which a small group of highly educated elites controls society. The meritocrats persuade themselves that, unlike the ruling classes that came before them, they are uniquely deserving of power because they earned it rather than inherited it. (And they have the SAT scores to prove it, by God!) And yet, over time, they somehow manage to become just as inbred, self-serving, and corrupt.

37 Bulworth  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:06:07pm

re: #33 Kragar

Joyner: 'Our President, Barack Obama, is a Wicked Man'


Oh go fuck yourself Rick.

Which means a thousand years of darkness for all of us. /

38 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:06:16pm

re: #19 Kragar

Gov Perry vows to piss away money for the fuck of it

Florida tried this bullshit and it was a colossal waste of time, money, and resources.

Yes, but it shames the sinners who are so weak and lazy that they need government help. //

39 Charleston Chew  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:06:28pm

re: #33 Kragar

Joyner: 'Our President, Barack Obama, is a Wicked Man'

Oh go fuck yourself Rick.

One more conservative basically saying, "God Damn America!"

40 Kragar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:06:46pm

Jon Stewart Rips Secessionists

“At least now I’m beginning to understand why southern states were always so hesitant to get rid of the Confederate Flag,” Stewart said. “It’s like keeping your fat pants after you lose some weight. You’re happy for now with the new you, but you’re pretty sure you’re gonna need those pants again.”

41 macaw  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:09:02pm

re: #19 Kragar

Heh... I have heard the old stories of how early 1900s era poverty-on-conditions programs were abused by some of those appointed to determine who was a deserving poor. I am glad it is not like that anymore in my Nordic country.

Governor Perry, remember to put in checks and balances on your system. Some creep may find a way to exploit it.

42 blueraven  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:10:44pm

This is a good sign...Boehner's choice, the more moderate candidate, wins against Ryan's radical one.

43 RadicalModerate  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:13:46pm

re: #19 Kragar

Gov Perry vows to piss away money for the fuck of it

Florida tried this bullshit and it was a colossal waste of time, money, and resources.

Keep in mind that Perry is wanting to do this to people who are filing for unemployment insurance. These people, for the most part, lost their jobs due to no fault of their own, but due to workforce reductions (be it layoffs, or seasonal/temporary contract work). People who are more than willing to be a part of a productive, taxpaying workforce. What Gov Perry is doing is trying to deny their benefits - that THEY THEMSELVES PAID INTO.

44 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:13:52pm

Live Updates: Operation Pillar of Defense on Terror Targets in Gaza

9:55 PM: The IDF publishes an aerial photo of a long-range rocket launch site in the Zeitoun neighborhood of Gaza, meters away from a mosque and playground.

Image: fajr5site-640x596.jpg

Also nestled among civilian homes.

45 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:15:39pm

re: #7 Kragar

John McCain Supported Condi Rice After Massive Intelligence Failure

McCain's a partisan hack. So much for the maverick. And hello to the bitter old man who still can't get over the fact that Obama beat him in 2008.

46 darthstar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:16:09pm

re: #44 Killgore Trout

Live Updates: Operation Pillar of Defense on Terror Targets in Gaza

Ah, it's good to see American tax dollars at work bombing the fuck out of 'terror targets' 'nestled among civilian homes'...Yes, we're paying for that.

47 Political Atheist  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:16:39pm

By the way on this secession thing, why are we paying so much attention to .42% of the Texas population? BTW Rick Perry's name is NOT on that list.

Other than point and laugh I mean.

48 darthstar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:16:43pm

re: #45 HappyWarrior

McCain's a partisan hack. So much for the maverick. And hello to the bitter old man who still can't get over the fact that Obama beat him in 2008.

He'll retire in 2014.

49 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:16:57pm

re: #43 RadicalModerate


I think we are going to see more of this: now that they cannot impose their agenda on the entire USA through their choice of Chief Executive, the local and state governments are going to double down on antedeluvian legislation like this wherever they can get away with it...which is in most red states.

50 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:17:27pm

re: #48 darthstar

He'll retire in 2014.

2016 after or before his term ends.

51 Kragar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:17:54pm

Beck: Obama ‘set up’ Petraeus to ‘discredit the military’

“This is a set up,” Beck said on his Tuesday broadcast. “This is spontaneous, they just found out? Bull crap. They have known. The White House knew during the vetting process that Petraeus was carrying on an inappropriate relationship. They knew it. They knew that he could be easily compromised, but they appointed him anyway.”

“Because when you have the goods on someone — you need a pressure point,” he explained. “Just like this Jill [Kelley] lady. She’s got $2 million in debt. She’s in and out of court all the time. Pressure point. Same with the general. ‘General Betray Us,’ that’s what the left used to call him. Now, he’s put up to head the CIA? Really? Of course. They have a pressure point.”

“And now he’s being discredited. This whole scandal is doing what? How’s your opinion of the military? Discredit the last-standing, honorable institution we have: the military.”

Beck added: “These people in Washington are really bad people. And they will use anything, any pressure point. And you will fold. This, today, is all about discrediting the military while distracting the media.”

Um, how does this discredit the military?

52 darthstar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:18:02pm

re: #47 Daniel Ballard

By the way on this secession thing, why are we paying so much attention to .42% of the Texas population? BTW Rick Perry's name is NOT on that list.

Other than point and laugh I mean.

Perry's walked back his own secession bullshit. He only said it in 2009 because he was pandering to the more bigoted base as he was thinking about going for the GOP nomination in another year.

53 Lidane  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:18:14pm

re: #47 Daniel Ballard

By the way on this secession thing, why are we paying so much attention to .42% of the Texas population? BTW Rick Perry's name is NOT on that list.

Other than point and laugh I mean.

It's all about pointing and laughing at the fail. Plus, there's this:

Dear Obama, If Texas Secedes, Can We Stay With You?

Heh.

54 darthstar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:18:42pm

re: #50 HappyWarrior

2016 after or before his term ends.

We're stuck with him until 2016? I thought he ran for reelection in 2008? Crap...it was 2010. Crap.

55 darthstar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:19:06pm

re: #53 Lidane

It's all about pointing and laughing at the fail. Plus, there's this:

Dear Obama, If Texas Secedes, Can We Stay With You?

Heh.

Build the Austin Wall!

56 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:19:20pm

re: #46 darthstar

Ah, it's good to see American tax dollars at work bombing the fuck out of 'terror targets' 'nestled among civilian homes'...Yes, we're paying for that.

Advanced targeting to minimize civilian casualties is money well spent. Hamas works hard to keep the civilian casualties high for propaganda purposes. The more we can minimize that is money well spent.

57 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:20:20pm

re: #53 Lidane

It's all about pointing and laughing at the fail. Plus, there's this:

Dear Obama, If Texas Secedes, Can We Stay With You?

Heh.

Link and Heh is the new Point and Laugh.

58 Charles Johnson  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:22:05pm

re: #6 Obdicut

I still don't understand what the Benghazi conspiracy theorists are even alleging was covered up. What are they saying is the conspiracy? It doesn't make any sense to me.

Here you go - just tweeted to me by a wingnut, who explains what it's all about:

59 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:22:07pm

Dept of State press release: Gaza Rocket Attacks

We strongly condemn the barrage of rocket fire from Gaza into southern Israel, and we regret the death and injury of innocent Israeli and Palestinian civilians caused by the ensuing violence. There is no justification for the violence that Hamas and other terrorist organizations are employing against the people of Israel. We call on those responsible to stop these cowardly acts immediately. We support Israel’s right to defend itself, and we encourage Israel to continue to take every effort to avoid civilian casualties.

Hamas claims to have the best interests of the Palestinian people at heart, yet it continues to engage in violence that is counterproductive to the Palestinian cause. Attacking Israel on a near daily basis does nothing to help Palestinians in Gaza or to move the Palestinian people any closer to achieving self determination.

60 Patricia Kayden  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:22:35pm

Go on, President Obama. Stand firm on raising taxes on the Romneys and Co. They can more than afford it.

I hope he nominates Susan Rice for Secretary of State too. The Dems have 55 Senators. Every Repub could vote against her and she'll still be confirmed. Let them go on record demonizing a Black woman for strictly partisan reasons. I guess the shellacking they got last week in the Elections hasn't taught them anything. As yet.

61 darthstar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:22:37pm

re: #53 Lidane

It's all about pointing and laughing at the fail. Plus, there's this:

Dear Obama, If Texas Secedes, Can We Stay With You?

Heh.

New petition asks White House to make Austin 50th state

What about Hawaii? Isn't that the 50th state?

OMGZ! Hawaii isn't part of America! Obama really is foreign born!

62 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:22:37pm

More Texas idiocy:

I'd like to laugh about the idea of Texas secession.

But here in Tarrant County, where Ron Paul Republicans and the Tea Party have taken control, the talk is very serious.

"It would be good for Texas," State Republican Executive Committeeman Bill Eastland said Tuesday.

Eastland, 64, of Arlington, said Texas should "buy our way out" because voters for President Obama "didn't want to give up their free government cheese."

Echoing comments last week by a Hardin County Republican party officer, Eastland called for "separation," not secession. Like in the 1820s, he sees U.S. residents leaving to resettle in Texas.

"The U.S. would take the bribe," Eastland said.

"They'll be desperate for the money. And they'll want our Republicans out of Congress."

63 Patricia Kayden  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:26:58pm

Funny how worked up the Republicans are at Benghazi, yet had zilch to say when President Bush, Condoleeza Rice, etc., were in charge when 3000 plus Americans were killed on 9/1/2001. Did Bush and his officials lie about not knowing of the attacks before they happened? I don't recall Democratic politicians going after Republicans like this. In fact, I recall the country pulling together and putting politics aside for the most part.

Republicans are going to impeach President Obama about this. Shrug. More partisan political games. I guess they'll do this to every Democratic President if they control the House.

64 celticdragon  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:29:40pm

re: #12 Lidane

It was supposed to lead to Obama's electoral defeat, but that backfired.

I guess now it's supposed to lead to his impeachment and to President Biden. Or something.

Obama is a Harkonnen agent and he gets high on melange.

65 William of Orange  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:35:07pm

By now some of you might know what a terrible story happened on the republic of Ireland. This country is still heavily influenced by the Catholic church. And as such it's a country where abortion is illegal.
A 31-year old woman was seventeen weeks pregnant with her first child. A child which would have been welcome. However complications arose and it turned out the woman was having a miscarriage. An abortion was necessary but the doctors refused to do that procedure because there was still a heartbeat of the child. A week later the woman died in hospital.
She could have been saved... A high court decision was made in 1992 in which was said that in exactly these situation abortion should be allowed but today that ruling was still not applied in the law.

I hope Paul Ryan sleeps well tonight...

I cannot link to an article as I'm typing this text on my telephone. Can someone do me a favor and do that for me? There is an article on the news sit of the BBC.

Thank you.

66 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:35:08pm

Top Georgia GOP Lawmakers Host Briefing on Secret Obama Mind-Control Plot

President Obama is using a Cold War-era mind-control technique known as "Delphi" to coerce Americans into accepting his plan for a United Nations-run communist dictatorship in which suburbanites will be forcibly relocated to cities. That's according to a four-hour briefing delivered to Republican state senators at the Georgia state Capitol last month.

On October 11th at a closed-door meeting of the Republican caucus convened by the body's majority leader, Chip Rogers, a tea party activist told Republican lawmakers that Obama was mounting this most diabolical conspiracy. The event—captured on tape by a member of the Athens-based watchdog Better Georgia (who was removed from the room after 52 minutes)—had been billed as an information session on Agenda 21, a non-binding UN agreement that commits member nations to promote sustainable development. In the eyes of conservative activists, Agenda 21 is a nefarious plot that includes forcibly relocating non-urban dwellers and prescribing mandatory contraception as a means of curbing population growth. The invitation to the Georgia state Senate event noted the presentation would explain: "How pleasant sounding names are fostering a Socialist plan to change the way we live, eat, learn, and communicate to 'save the earth.'"

The entire 52-minute video is at the link, in case you have some brain cells you need to kill.

67 EPR-radar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:36:19pm

re: #63 Patricia Kayden

Funny how worked up the Republicans are at Benghazi, yet had zilch to say when President Bush, Condoleeza Rice, etc., were in charge when 3000 plus Americans were killed on 9/1/2001. Did Bush and his officials lie about not knowing of the attacks before they happened? I don't recall Democratic politicians going after Republicans like this. In fact, I recall the country pulling together and putting politics aside for the most part.

Republicans are going to impeach President Obama about this. Shrug. More partisan political games. I guess they'll do this to every Democratic President if they control the House.

When the day comes that a cage full of poo-flinging howler monkeys has the answers to US public policy problem, it will make sense to have a GOP congress. Until such time, it would appear the GOP has nothing to contribute. In particular, they richly deserve another continuous run of 40 years in the House minority.

68 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:36:28pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

Here you go - just tweeted to me by a wingnut, who explains what it's all about:

[Embedded content]

And what would be his motivation to claim that the militants attacked in response to the video when they didn't?

69 darthstar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:37:30pm

okay, this is funny...

[Link: www.regretsy.com...]

Read the comments...

70 Charleston Chew  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:37:57pm

A nice reminder that the real US is not as segregated into big red and blue states as simple election maps suggest. Here's the 2012 Presidential election by percentage won per county generated by Mark Newman from the Department of Physics and Center for the Study of Complex Systems at the University of Michigan:

2012's "Purple America"

71 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:38:09pm

re: #65 William of Orange

By now some of you might know what a terrible story happened on the republic of Ireland. This country is still heavily influenced by the Catholic church. And as such it's a country where abortion is illegal.
A 31-year old woman was seventeen weeks pregnant with her first child. A child which would have been welcome. However complications arose and it turned out the woman was having a miscarriage. An abortion was necessary but the doctors refused to do that procedure because there was still a heartbeat of the child. A week later the woman died in hospital.
She could have been saved... A high court decision was made in 1992 in which was said that in exactly these situation abortion should be allowed but today that ruling was still not applied in the law.

I hope Paul Ryan sleeps well tonight...

I cannot link to an article as I'm typing this text on my telephone. Can someone do me a favor and do that for me? There is an article on the news sit of the BBC.

Thank you.

Read about this earlier. Here's the story from the BBC:
Woman dies after abortion request 'refused' at Galway hospital

72 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:40:00pm

re: #65 William of Orange

It's in the Featured Pages list, first one after you click the 'More' button, in the right hand column.

73 William of Orange  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:40:16pm

re: #71 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Thanks for helping me.

74 Bulworth  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:41:36pm

re: #66 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

I see Beck has a new book coming out about this Very Scary UN Agenda 21. The Derp, it never stops.

75 darthstar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:43:22pm
76 makeitstop  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:44:04pm

re: #66 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

Top Georgia GOP Lawmakers Host Briefing on Secret Obama Mind-Control Plot

The entire 52-minute video is at the link, in case you have some brain cells you need to kill.

Holy FUCK these people are imbeciles.

77 allegro  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:44:26pm

re: #65 William of Orange

PZ Myers says it all for me:

It's Time to Abort the Catholic Church

78 darthstar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:44:52pm

And of course, for balance:

79 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:45:56pm

Hmm.

80 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:47:09pm

re: #78 darthstar

And of course, for balance:

[Embedded content]

Obama's State Dept agrees.

81 darthstar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:47:26pm

Speaking of asshole bigots...so convinced of his ethnic superiority he repeats himself:

Mitt Romney told his top donors Wednesday that his loss to President Obama was a disappointing result that neither he or his top aides had expected, but said he believed his team ran a “superb” campaign with “no drama,” and attributed his rival’s victory to “the gifts” the administration had given to blacks, Hispanics and young voters during Obama’s first term.

Obama, Romney argued, had been “very generous” to blacks, Hispanics and young voters.

Link: [Link: www.latimes.com...]

82 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:47:53pm
83 darthstar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:47:54pm

re: #80 Killgore Trout

Obama's State Dept agrees.

Killing for peace is like fucking for virginity.

84 Kragar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:48:29pm

Chuck Pierce: America Will Fall Apart, East and West Coasts Will Be Ruled by Demons

Just before the election Charisma published a prophecy made by Lou Engle’s co-author James Goll about how in 2008 God revealed to him that Mitt Romney will save America from certain doom. Obviously, Romney lost the election and the “prophetic experiences” Engle cited weren’t exactly accurate. But now, Charisma has posted a different prophecy from another Engle ally, Chuck Pierce, who claims that in 2008 God told him that America would actually fall apart and many areas will be ruled by demonic spirits, particularly on the East Coast (oh, he also claims to have prophesied Hurricane Sandy). Then these demonic liberal regions will be challenged by the godly “apostolic centers” led by Texas and other southern states, which “will arise and be leading contenders of freedom.”

85 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:49:23pm

re: #83 darthstar

Killing for peace is like fucking for virginity.

Although I disagree you'll always get an upding from me for a Dave Rabbit quote.
/"Fuck it, before it fucks you"

86 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:50:12pm

re: #79 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

Hmm.

[Embedded content]

I really find it bizarre that the IDF is tweeting bravura like that. It's kinda unprofessional.

Is that some troll responding to them or have we really reached the state where the IDF and terrorist groups are exchanging threats via twitter?

87 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:50:13pm

re: #83 darthstar

Carlin :-)

88 allegro  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:51:01pm

re: #81 darthstar

Speaking of asshole bigots...so convinced of his ethnic superiority he repeats himself:

Link: [Link: www.latimes.com...]

I keep trying to figure out what supposed gifts these are that Obama has been so generous with? The only thing I can think of is something Romney et al seem incapable of giving and that is respect.

89 BongCrodny  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:51:55pm

re: #6 Obdicut

I still don't understand what the Benghazi conspiracy theorists are even alleging was covered up. What are they saying is the conspiracy? It doesn't make any sense to me.

Doesn't matter. Anything that contradicts their little impeachment fantasy is a conspiracy.

90 darthstar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:52:45pm

re: #88 allegro

I keep trying to figure out what supposed gifts these are that Obama has been so generous with? The only thing I can think of is something Romney et al seem incapable of giving and that is respect.

I'm with this gal:

91 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:53:07pm

re: #88 allegro

I keep trying to figure out what supposed gifts these are that Obama has been so generous with? The only thing I can think of is something Romney et al seem incapable of giving and that is respect.

Healthcare? That's all I got. Maybe extending UI benefits (that was Congress though).

It's just more bullshit that the rich boy couldn't get people to like his sorry ass, so he's gonna pout about it. Fuck him and his clan.

92 darthstar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:53:17pm

Ha!

93 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:54:49pm

re: #86 Obdicut

I really find it bizarre that the IDF is tweeting bravura like that. It's kinda unprofessional.

Is that some troll responding to them or have we really reached the state where the IDF and terrorist groups are exchanging threats via twitter?

That's what I was wondering. Teenage flamewars on line, backed by rocket attacks and airstrikes IRL. It reminds me of why Vonnegut promised his friend's wife he'd title his book "The Children's Crusade".

94 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:55:54pm

re: #88 allegro

OBAMAPHONES!

95 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:56:03pm

re: #86 Obdicut

It sort of fits into my idea that this whole thing is nothing more than a stupid childhood grudge where one kid bumped another in Kindergarten, the other kid punched back, then he got punched, and they've spent their entire lives punching each other, each time saying "I didn't hit you that hard!" before swinging.

96 darthstar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:57:19pm

Retweetable:

97 darthstar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 1:58:37pm
98 macaw  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:00:22pm

re: #64 celticdragon

Obama is a Harkonnen agent and he gets high on melange.

A tleilaxu-allegiance seems more logical. It would explain those 69 million birth certificates that came shipped with him to the White House back in 2008.

99 BongCrodny  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:01:24pm

re: #62 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

More Texas idiocy:

Eastland, 64, of Arlington, said Texas should "buy our way out" because voters for President Obama "didn't want to give up their free government cheese."

Speaking as an unemployed American who just spent over $100 on bus fare and a night in the cheapest motel in Bangor in order to make a job interview this morning, let me just say that I've got some free fucking cheese for you, buddy.

100 darthstar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:01:45pm
101 Bulworth  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:02:06pm
“The President’s campaign,” he said, “focused on giving targeted groups a big gift—so he made a big effort on small things. Those small things, by the way, add up to trillions of dollars.”

This is a promising line of thought for the GOPTeabag. I recommend they continue promoting it. It's the best tool in their arsenal to expand their share of the electorate. /

102 erik_t  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:02:11pm

re: #96 darthstar

Retweetable:

[Embedded content]

Romney attacks those who voted for the other guy as having their votes bought and sold by special interests. Irony meter broken.

103 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:02:18pm

re: #95 Ghost of Tom Joad

It sort of fits into my idea that this whole thing is nothing more than a stupid childhood grudge where one kid bumped another in Kindergarten, the other kid punched back, then he got punched, and they've spent their entire lives punching each other, each time saying "I didn't hit you that hard!" before swinging.

That is a terrible analogy. Come on. We're talking about people dying here. It is nothing like a stupid grudge. A large portion of it is caused by the antisemitism preached by the Arab states over the past eighty or so years, a large portion of it is due to the treatment of Palestinian refugees as second-class citizens by the Arab countries where those camps are. A large portion of it is religious fanaticism. That is why it is so hard to stop. Palestine is a broken state: Hamas couldn't even enforce a ceasefire if they wanted to.

Pretending that it's just like a children's squabble is beyond silly. This is like The Troubles in Ireland and it would require just as much of a good-faith effort on both sides to solve-- and there will still be radicals fighting it even after then.

104 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:02:53pm

"gifts? Hey Mitt get it through your skull that people voted against you because they found you and your ideology a bad fit for the country. But keep on whistling asshole.

105 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:03:13pm

re: #93 Our Precious Bodily Fluids

That's what I was wondering. Teenage flamewars on line, backed by rocket attacks and airstrikes IRL. It reminds me of why Vonnegut promised his friend's wife he'd title his book "The Children's Crusade".

Sounds like they should get themselves copies of the latest Call of Duty and go at it on-line instead of pointlessly wasting precious lives.

106 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:03:53pm

re: #102 erik_t

Romney attacks those who voted for the other guy as having their votes bought and sold by special interests. Irony meter broken.

No kidding. The guy just doesn't get it. There's a very good reason he's only been elected once in his whole life.

107 Bubblehead II  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:04:37pm

Hey KT. I have an offer for you (yes it is serious), but even though your Nic is blue, I can't seem to find a way to send you an E-Mail.

108 Tigger2  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:07:03pm

Since Pres Obama doesn't have to worry about another election I think the Republicans are going to be dealing with a different kind of person they have never dealt with before.

109 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:08:42pm

re: #103 Obdicut

I'm not trying to insult the people dying, but when the official representative of the IDF takes to social media to brag like he just fragged his buddy in an on-line game, and gets similar responses from those they're fighting against, to me that's childish stupidity.

110 Bulworth  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:09:56pm
“The President’s campaign,” he said, “focused on giving targeted groups a big gift—so he made a big effort on small things. Those small things, by the way, add up to trillions of dollars.”

Increasing the military force by 100,000, and cutting taxes beyond the Bush rates, however, are of course free. //

111 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:10:23pm

re: #109 Ghost of Tom Joad

I'm not trying to insult the people dying, but when the official representative of the IDF takes to social media to brag like he just fragged his buddy in an on-line game, and gets similar responses from those they're fighting against, to me that's childish stupidity.

I agree with that. And it's even worse in a way if that's just some troll on twitter responding to him.

112 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:11:18pm

I really do love how Romney can stand there and say people voted for Obama because of "stuff" while he got a lot of his votes in some of the most poor parts of the union. I think Republicans like lying to themselves about the reality of geopolitics in this country. Obama actually won my county, a county that has a median income in the six figures by a bigger margin than he did nationwide. The Republicans really underestimate how repugnant their social policies come across to many people. That's their problem though not mine. If they think socon bullshit and empty rhetoric on economics is a long term winner, then go for it. Just don't bitch about people wanting "free stuff" especially while you propose tax breaks galore.

113 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:12:23pm

re: #108 Tigger2

Since Pres Obama doesn't have to worry about another election I think the Republicans are going to be dealing with a different kind of person they have never dealt with before.

Angry Black Man!
He's been re-elected a little over a week and they've already shown their intransigence to anything he wants to do, not to mention ratcheting their insanity up to 11. At this point, he can afford to throw a few counter-punches. Otherwise we'll have another 2 years of gridlock with nothing being seriously addressed in either house of Congress before 2014's elections.

114 darthstar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:13:28pm
115 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:15:34pm

re: #111 Obdicut

It surely doesn't help the situation either. We saw what happened with 1 stupid video made by some asshole in California.

116 darthstar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:15:40pm

I'm kind of glad Mitt Romney came out of hiding to speak to rich people...makes me even happier that he got his ass handed to him last Tuesday. Fucking dick.

117 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:19:13pm

re: #104 HappyWarrior

"gifts? Hey Mitt get it through your skull that people voted against you because they found you and your ideology a bad fit for the country. But keep on whistling asshole.

Actually Obama gave me an enormous gift: a U.S. President I didn't feel I had to apologize to the rest of the world for.

// notice what I did there?

118 GeneJockey  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:19:30pm

re: #114 darthstar

If we didn't think Romney was a dick before, he just convinced us. #gifts

Dodged a fucking bullet there, didn't we.

119 allegro  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:19:40pm

re: #116 darthstar

I'm kind of glad Mitt Romney came out of hiding to speak to rich people...makes me even happier that he got his ass handed to him last Tuesday. Fucking dick.

I imagine it feels pretty good to him to not have to try to hide his real self and opinions anymore, odious as they are.

120 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:20:54pm

Man but trying to write a page on the federal budget overall and spending vs. taxation by state is tough. I have been researching the data from everyplace I can find it and much of it is hopelessly outdated pre-recession numbers that are useless.

Everyone on the web is still using that single set of numbers by the Tax foundation.org based on 2004 information. The census and IRS numbers are not all that much newer, you can only put together a cohesive set of numbers up to 2007, after that some numbers are available and some aren't.

Sigh...this is turning out to be a quite a bit harder than I thought it would be, but I'm going to keep after it till I'm satisfied that I did the best I could.

121 erik_t  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:21:37pm

re: #119 allegro

I imagine it feels pretty good to him to not have to try to hide his real self and opinions anymore, odious as they are.

Well, not try as hard. He's just bitching at other rich folk; I don't expect to see him on the Sunday morning circuit any time soon.

122 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:22:33pm

re: #117 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

Actually Obama gave me an enormous gift: a U.S. President I didn't feel I had to apologize to the rest of the world for.

// notice what I did there?

Haha. I never felt any hostility towards me for being an American when I was in Europe during the Bush years but I did have a nice conversation with a cab driver about Obama when I was studying abroad Obama's first year in office. The guy got what a lot of Americans don't seem to get and that's that progress takes time.

123 allegro  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:23:01pm

re: #121 erik_t

Well, not try as hard. He's just bitching at other rich folk; I don't expect to see him on the Sunday morning circuit any time soon.

One hopes he will crawl back under his gilded rock and remain there.

124 darthstar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:24:33pm

Okay...time to run...I leave you with a funny.

Image: 579088_366263080130049_926231966_n.jpg

125 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:26:18pm

The excuses are pretty funny. Ryan was asked today about his home county voting against him and he claimed they just saw the Republican label next to his name and ignored that he was a home county and town guy. Or it could be because they've seen you in action the past twelve years and know you're unfit to be anything above a Congressman. I looked at the statistics but McGovern did better in his home state in 1972 than Ryan did in his home county. I'd be interested in seeing how Romney-Ryan did in the district as a whole. I know Obama won it last time.

126 allegro  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:30:19pm

re: #125 HappyWarrior

The excuses are pretty funny. Ryan was asked today about his home county voting against him and he claimed they just saw the Republican label next to his name and ignored that he was a home county and town guy. Or it could be because they've seen you in action the past twelve years and know you're unfit to be anything above a Congressman. I looked at the statistics but McGovern did better in his home state in 1972 than Ryan did in his home county. I'd be interested in seeing how Romney-Ryan did in the district as a whole. I know Obama won it last time.

Just cuz Obama gave them stuff. Like saved the US auto industry and many of their jobs.

127 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:31:08pm

Waiting for cache.blogads.com = No comments loading on all threads and pages. :(

128 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:31:38pm

re: #102 erik_t

Romney attacks those who voted for the other guy as having their votes bought and sold by special interests. Irony meter broken.

No shit, seeing as he was willing to give the store to the military-industrial complex and his buddies in the 1%, leaving the lower and middle classes with the short end of the stick.

Fuck Romney and fuck anyone who can still say with a straight face that they'd still support him or the TPGOP after all of this shit.

129 Bulworth  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:31:56pm

re: #125 HappyWarrior

So his hometown homies basically think the national GOPteabag sucks something awful.

130 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:33:56pm

re: #124 darthstar

Okay...time to run...I leave you with a funny.

Image: 579088_366263080130049_926231966_n.jpg

That's false advertising, man...

///

131 HappyWarrior  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:34:02pm

re: #129 Bulworth

So his hometown homies basically think the national GOPteabag sucks something awful.

Pretty much. Really telling that the people who know Romney-Ryan the best rejected both of them handily.

132 Ghost of Tom Joad  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:34:05pm

re: #125 HappyWarrior

The more you learn about people, the creepier they tend to get. Romney would have done a lot better had he not spoke his mind in that 47% video. Akin and Mourdock possibly win their races if they don't speak their minds on rape and abortion.

Same thing with Ryan. Everybody says he's a policy wonk, a budget genius, an economic guru, and a good family man. Then we find out his budget is mathematical bullshit, he hates the poor/elderly, has lived his life off the Government, and consorts and agrees with guys like...Akin and Mourdock.

133 dragonath  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:34:09pm

Great, now Obama has two ungracious former opponents.

134 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:36:08pm

re: #133 dragonath

Great, now Obama has two ungracious former opponents.

Image: haters-gonna-hate.gif

135 steve_davis  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:37:08pm

re: #2 erik_t

I'm trying to think of any time the phrase 'the blacks' can ever be used with any sort of decency in any field of discussion.

Maybe a game of Go?

"The Blacks found themselves battling for control over the city of Florence, and Dante found himself in a power struggle with a pope that put the Mach in Machiavellian."

Maybe?

136 Hercules Grytpype-Thynne  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:38:53pm

re: #135 steve_davis

"The Blacks found themselves battling for control over the city of Florence, and Dante found himself in a power struggle with a pope that put the Mach in Machiavellian."

Maybe?

The Joneses had a family emergency, so their next-door neighbors, the Blacks, kindly agreed to host the block party.

137 Bubblehead II  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:41:11pm

BTW KT. This offer is for some FREE industrial quality (APPRO) B/W CCD video cameras (less lens) and a combiner/switcher unit as well.

Given your recent break in I thought you might be interested.

And yes, I will pay the S&H.

Why?

1. While the cameras are good, I wanted color and I got them.
2. They are taking up space in my shop that I can use for something else.
3. Even thought I tend to disagree with you on several fronts, I don't like it
when a Lizard is threatened.
4. If you don't want it, well if any other Lizard wants some of this stuff
just let me know.

138 Charles Johnson  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:52:31pm

re: #127 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Waiting for cache.blogads.com = No comments loading on all threads and pages. :(

I disabled Blogads until they straighten out the problem.

139 EPR-radar  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:54:13pm

re: #2 erik_t

I'm trying to think of any time the phrase 'the blacks' can ever be used with any sort of decency in any field of discussion.

Maybe a game of Go?

Non-political discussion can easily be OK. In political discussion, it is trickier. For example:

"Blacks have no reason to vote Republican" seems OK.

"The Blacks have no reason to vote Republican" seems off, somehow. May be an implicit "othering".

P.S. In Go and Chess, the sides are Black and White. It would be eccentric to refer to Black Go stones as "the blacks".

140 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 2:54:22pm

re: #137 Bubblehead II

BTW KT. This offer is for some FREE industrial quality (APPRO) B/W CCD video cameras (less lens) and a combiner/switcher unit as well.

Given your recent break in I thought you might be interested.

And yes, I will pay the S&H.

Why?

1. While the cameras are good, I wanted color and I got them.
2. They are taking up space in my shop that I can use for something else.
3. Even thought I tend to disagree with you on several fronts, I don't like it
when a Lizard is threatened.
4. If you don't want it, well if any other Lizard wants some of this stuff
just let me know.

Thanks, that's very generous of you but I have all my security needs met for the time being. I've been busy today hooking everything up and getting all the parts talking properly with each. Thanks for the offer.

141 dragonfire1981  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 3:04:08pm

Wow.

That's all I got.

142 Bubblehead II  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 3:06:06pm

re: #140 Killgore Trout

Thanks, that's very generous of you but I have all my security needs met for the time being. I've been busy today hooking everything up and getting all the parts talking properly with each. Thanks for the offer.

Your welcome. Since KT doesn't want any of this, Is anybody else interested?

143 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 3:07:01pm

re: #141 dragonfire1981

Wow.

That's all I got.

Jeebus H. Christ on a crutch...that book might be marked as fiction, but it plays right into what Beck has been preaching to his audience for a long time.

The man's a nutcase.

144 compound_Idaho  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 3:17:18pm

re: #43 RadicalModerate

Keep in mind that Perry is wanting to do this to people who are filing for unemployment insurance. These people, for the most part, lost their jobs due to no fault of their own, but due to workforce reductions (be it layoffs, or seasonal/temporary contract work). People who are more than willing to be a part of a productive, taxpaying workforce. What Gov Perry is doing is trying to deny their benefits - that THEY THEMSELVES PAID INTO.

Employers pay the premium, not employees.

145 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 3:19:29pm

re: #144 compound_Idaho

Employers pay the premium, not employees.

It's both, 50-50.

/former employer

/former employee

146 compound_Idaho  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 3:22:14pm

re: #145 wrenchwench

It's both, 50-50.

/former employer

/former employee

Unemployment insurance is paid 100% by the employer both state and federal.

147 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 3:41:49pm

re: #146 compound_Idaho

Unemployment insurance is paid 100% by the employer both state and federal.

Oops, you're right. It's been a while since I had to file those forms....

148 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 3:47:50pm

re: #86 Obdicut

I really find it bizarre that the IDF is tweeting bravura like that. It's kinda unprofessional.

Is that some troll responding to them or have we really reached the state where the IDF and terrorist groups are exchanging threats via twitter?

Social media is now a weapon of war, whether we like it or not.

149 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 3:52:37pm

re: #105 Ghost of Tom Joad

Sounds like they should get themselves copies of the latest Call of Duty and go at it on-line instead of pointlessly wasting precious lives.

"And while we hugged one another, what would Philip do?"

150 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 3:53:16pm

re: #109 Ghost of Tom Joad

I'm not trying to insult the people dying, but when the official representative of the IDF takes to social media to brag like he just fragged his buddy in an on-line game, and gets similar responses from those they're fighting against, to me that's childish stupidity.

Think about the way radio programming was used in WWII, Vietnam, the Cold War...

151 compound_Idaho  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 3:59:39pm

re: #147 wrenchwench

Oops, you're right. It's been a while since I had to file those forms....

In reality, you are at least partially correct. I argue that to some degree, employees pay all payroll related taxes either through direct deductions or via reduced wages to cover employer related costs.

152 Obdicut  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 4:16:37pm

re: #148 SanFranciscoZionist

Social media is now a weapon of war, whether we like it or not.

Well, I don't think that using it to engage in some tough-talk taunting is a good use of it.

153 KiTA  Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:12:23pm

It's nice to see the Wingnuts move beyond their momentary depression over getting their collective asses kicked and decide that really, none of that happened, the world still agrees with them, and somehow, Obama is directly and personally responsible for the 4 deaths in Benghazi.

Seriously, that moron Graham's little rant sounded like Obama had held the murder weapon himself. And McCain, what a little pissant -- lying about what our future Secretary of State said and then slammer her for (not) saying it.

Fortunately, the more they froth, the further into the wilderness they go.


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