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1 thedopefishlives  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 2:46:47pm

OBAMA DRONES!!!!1!11

[Faints.]

2 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 2:48:35pm

re: #1 thedopefishlives

OBAMA DRONES!!!!1!11

[Faints.]

NSA DRONES!!

[Shits pants.]

3 Kragar  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 2:48:46pm

Copied from the last thread, but on the topic of entertainment:

A show I’d like to see:

A short season (6-10 episode) show based on H.P. Lovecraft stories. Have the central setting being Arkham and Miskatonic university, with only a few keystone characters, but otherwise switch up the cast every season. They could do “The Dunwich Horror”, “The Shadow over Innsmouth”, “The case of Charles Dexter Ward” building up over each episode. They could also throw in some of the shorter stories like “Pickman’s Mode”l or “The Terrible Old Man” as one shot or filler episodes.

4 Kragar  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 2:49:37pm

re: #2 Dr Lizardo

NSA DRONES!!

[Shits pants.]

DUDEBRO DRONES!

[ZZZZZ- huh?]

5 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 2:52:07pm

re: #3 Kragar

Copied from the last thread, but on the topic of entertainment:

A show I’d like to see:

A short season (6-10 episode) show based on H.P. Lovecraft stories. Have the central setting being Arkham and Miskatonic university, with only a few keystone characters, but otherwise switch up the cast every season. They could do “The Dunwich Horror”, “The Shadow over Innsmouth”, “The case of Charles Dexter Ward” building up over each episode. They could also throw in some of the shorter stories like “Pickman’s Mode”l or “The Terrible Old Man” as one shot or filler episodes.

I would LOVE that!

Did you ever see the 2005 silent film treatment of “The Call of Cthulhu”?

It was quite good, I must say. imdb.com

6 Kragar  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 2:56:08pm

re: #5 Dr Lizardo

I would LOVE that!

Did you ever see the 2005 silent film treatment of “The Call of Cthulhu”?

It was quite good, I must say. imdb.com

I really couldn’t get into it, but I appreciated the effort.

There was a movie a few years back called “The Resurrected” based on “The case of Charles Dexter Ward” which was pretty good.

Looks like they renamed it at some point.

7 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 2:57:53pm

re: #6 Kragar

I really couldn’t get into it, but I appreciated the effort.

There was a movie a few years back called “The Resurrected” based on “The case of Charles Dexter Ward” which was pretty good.

Looks like they renamed it at some point.

Uncanny coincidence; there’s an older version, called “The Haunted Palace”, starring Vincent Price, and it too is based on “The Case Of Charles Dexter Ward”. I’m watching it right now on YouTube.

Youtube Video

8 Irving  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:00:27pm

Great little video. I love how they gave use the feeling that Superman’s forcing his way through the air; he’s not “floating” when he’s flying, he’s sort of punching gravity into submission. Very cool.

9 Dr. Matt  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:02:08pm

Worst.Photoshop.Ever

10 Kragar  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:07:17pm

re: #7 Dr Lizardo

Uncanny coincidence; there’s an older version, called “The Haunted Palace”, starring Vincent Price, and it too is based on “The Case Of Charles Dexter Ward”. I’m watching it right now on YouTube.

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Roger Corman? I feel like I’m going to need Mike and the Bots.

11 freetoken  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:07:54pm

Your human evolution news of the day (and it’s a good one):

The genomic landscape of Neanderthal ancestry in present-day humans

Genomic studies have shown that Neanderthals interbred with modern humans, and that non-Africans today are the products of this mixture. The antiquity of Neanderthal gene flow into modern humans means that genomic regions that derive from Neanderthals in any one human today are usually less than a hundred kilobases in size. However, Neanderthal haplotypes are also distinctive enough that several studies have been able to detect Neanderthal ancestry at specific loci. We systematically infer Neanderthal haplotypes in the genomes of 1,004 present-day humans. Regions that harbour a high frequency of Neanderthal alleles are enriched for genes affecting keratin filaments, suggesting that Neanderthal alleles may have helped modern humans to adapt to non-African environments. We identify multiple Neanderthal-derived alleles that confer risk for disease, suggesting that Neanderthal alleles continue to shape human biology. An unexpected finding is that regions with reduced Neanderthal ancestry are enriched in genes, implying selection to remove genetic material derived from Neanderthals. Genes that are more highly expressed in testes than in any other tissue are especially reduced in Neanderthal ancestry, and there is an approximately fivefold reduction of Neanderthal ancestry on the X chromosome, which is known from studies of diverse species to be especially dense in male hybrid sterility genes. These results suggest that part of the explanation for genomic regions of reduced Neanderthal ancestry is Neanderthal alleles that caused decreased fertility in males when moved to a modern human genetic background.

Evolution in action.

In our genome.

12 freetoken  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:11:21pm

Note that the publication of this paper is the final version. I thought it sounded familiar, and the initial version was available online at the end of Jan (I think I linked it then.)

Still, good to review, as it made its way through the final editing process.

13 Kragar  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:12:23pm

re: #11 freetoken

Your human evolution news of the day (and it’s a good one):

The genomic landscape of Neanderthal ancestry in present-day humans

Evolution in action.

In our genome.

And now, in order to maintain a fair and balanced discussion of the topic, allow me to present the counter argument:

*ahem*

“MY FAMILY DIDN’T COME FROM NO MONKEYS!! IT SAYS SO IN THE BIBLE!”

Thank you.

14 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:14:12pm

re: #9 Dr. Matt

Worst.Photoshop.Ever

What, this?

15 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:14:17pm

re: #11 freetoken

Your human evolution news of the day (and it’s a good one):

The genomic landscape of Neanderthal ancestry in present-day humans

Evolution in action.

In our genome.

Wish I had access to Nature. This paper’d be a good fit with a couple of the week 7 lectures from the Human Evolution Coursera.

16 freetoken  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:14:55pm

re: #13 Kragar

If only you were exaggerating…

DNA Proof That Neandertals Are Just Humans

From a creationist perspective, these studies really add very little to the already clear genetic evidence showing that the Neandertals are nothing but another variant in the human lineage derived from the eight individuals who survived the global Flood as recorded in the book of Genesis. Because the remains of these archaic humans are found in burial sites in caves rather than in flood sediments, we can therefore infer that their age is no more than about 4,000 years—not the 40,000-plus years typically given by evolutionists.

17 Kragar  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:16:42pm

Dang it, when are they going to get around to Leman Russ or Konrad Kurze?

Instead, they’re wasting time on Horus Lupercal, the Warmaster.

18 Lidane  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:17:06pm

Tons of Marvel-y goodness. It’s even better than the extended 4-minute preview they released the other day.

Can’t wait for this film.

19 Kragar  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:18:53pm

re: #16 freetoken

If only you were exaggerating…

DNA Proof That Neandertals Are Just Humans

Pffs, shows what he knows. The flood was only 2000 years ago. The guy on Fox said so.

20 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:20:21pm

Wow, this is AMAZING.

21 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:20:36pm

re: #18 Lidane

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Tons of Marvel-y goodness. It’s even better than the extended 4-minute preview they released the other day.

Can’t wait for this film.

I do love Cappy. Him & the X-men were my favorite regular comics. Had a weak spot for GI Combat & the Haunted Tank too.

22 AntonSirius  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:24:59pm

re: #18 Lidane

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Tons of Marvel-y goodness. It’s even better than the extended 4-minute preview they released the other day.

Can’t wait for this film.

BATROC!!!!!!!!!

23 Chrysicat  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:26:50pm

Oh fun. FOX reporting that the USPS will need a massive restructuring in Congress thanks to that stupid pension requirement, and Issa’s the man who apparently controls what that will be.

Anyone else tend to think it’ll be de-unionized at best, and possibly even just shut down and a law passed allowing UPS and FedEx to handle standard letters?

24 Kragar  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:28:50pm

re: #23 Chrysicat

Oh fun. FOX reporting that the USPS will need a massive restructuring in Congress thanks to that stupid pension requirement, and Issa’s the man who apparently controls what that will be.

Anyone else tend to think it’ll be de-unionized at best, and possibly even just shut down and a law passed allowing UPS and FedEx to handle standard letters?

I have every confidence in the ability of Issa to utterly destroy a national institution.

25 EPR-radar  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:29:03pm

re: #23 Chrysicat

Oh fun. FOX reporting that the USPS will need a massive restructuring in Congress thanks to that stupid pension requirement, and Issa’s the man who apparently controls what that will be.

Anyone else tend to think it’ll be de-unionized at best, and possibly even just shut down and a law passed allowing UPS and FedEx to handle standard letters?

With Issa’s felonious meathooks in it, the outcome is sure to be a disaster.

It will be ironic if this results in total loss of postal service to more rural parts of the US that tend to vote heavily for the GOP.

26 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:30:05pm
27 darthstar  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:30:49pm
28 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:31:14pm

BBC Show Named Free Speech Limits Free Speech

A BBC show named Free Speech limited free speech just a tad at the behest of its host recently. The episode was being filmed at the Birmingham Central Mosque and they aired a question from a man who professed to be “Britain’s first and only gay Muslim drag queen,” only to say they would not be discussing his question at all.

In a video question, Asifa Lahore said, “One question I’d like to ask the Muslim community is when will it be all right to be Muslim and gay?”

Immediately after showing that video, the presenter jumped in to explain that they would not be debating that question:

“After speaking to the mosque, they have expressed deep concerns with having this discussion here. The mosque were happy for us to play that video, and we will talk about it on our next program.”

29 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:31:26pm

re: #26 NJDhockeyfan

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It’s Nuggetosaurus!! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!

30 Kragar  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:33:50pm

re: #27 darthstar

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Fucking moron.

31 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:36:25pm

re: #28 Killgore Trout

They’re still going to talk about it. Not at the mosque. The mosque limited free speech. Which definitely shows something about that mosque’s attitude towards the question.

Dumb headline/summary, interesting story.

32 darthstar  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:38:12pm
33 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:40:31pm

Meanwhile, in the Kremlin:

Russia signaled concern on Wednesday at Estonia’s treatment of its large ethnic Russian minority, comparing language policy in the Baltic state with what it said was a call in Ukraine to prevent the use of Russian.

Russia has defended its annexation of Ukraine’s Crimea peninsula by arguing it has the right to protect Russian-speakers outside its borders, so the reference to linguistic tensions in another former Soviet republic comes at a highly sensitive moment.

reuters.com

34 EPR-radar  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:42:31pm

re: #33 Dr Lizardo

Excrement into impeller time, if Putin really goes after the Baltics. IMO, that would lead to a general war.

35 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:45:06pm

re: #33 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, in the Kremlin:

reuters.com

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Russia has defended its annexation of Ukraine’s Crimea peninsula by arguing it has the right to protect Russian-speakers outside its borders

So, they gonna annex Brighton Beach?

36 b.d.  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:45:49pm

re: #20 Pie-onist Overlord

that was the awesome

37 freetoken  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:45:55pm

re: #34 EPR-radar

Estonia, unlike Ukraine, is part of the EU:

europa.eu

38 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:46:32pm

re: #35 Pie-onist Overlord

So, they gonna annex Brighton Beach?

lol.

Well, maybe I shouldn’t laugh.

O_o

39 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:47:08pm

re: #37 freetoken

Estonia, unlike Ukraine, is part of the EU:

europa.eu

And NATO.

40 EPR-radar  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:48:58pm

re: #39 Dr Lizardo

And NATO.

As I recall, the Baltic States wasted no time at all getting into the EU and into NATO when it became possible to do so. Can’t imagine why.

41 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:49:20pm

re: #27 darthstar

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Looks like he’s got a Nazi Eagle tattoo on the inside of his arm too. A deep thinker that one.

42 darthstar  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:49:41pm
43 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:51:11pm

re: #42 darthstar

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As George Takei would no doubt say, “Oh myyyy”.

44 thedopefishlives  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:52:11pm

re: #42 darthstar

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I’m about 90% sure that’s just a clever Photoshop job, but still, that there’s funny.

45 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:54:12pm

re: #44 thedopefishlives

I’m about 90% sure that’s just a clever Photoshop job, but still, that there’s funny.

The shape of that church is real. I think Cracked mentioned it not long back.

46 thedopefishlives  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:58:19pm

re: #45 HappyWarrior

The shape of that church is real. I think Cracked mentioned it not long back.

Yeah, I knew that already. It was the rest of it that’s a bit over the top.

47 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:59:01pm

re: #46 thedopefishlives

Yeah, I knew that already. It was the rest of it that’s a bit over the top.

Ah sorry. Yeah you’re probably right.

48 darthstar  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 3:59:05pm

re: #45 HappyWarrior

The shape of that church is real. I think Cracked mentioned it not long back.

It’s what one would call a come to Jesus moment.

49 Kragar  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:02:34pm
50 Lidane  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:03:46pm

re: #45 HappyWarrior

The shape of that church is real. I think Cracked mentioned it not long back.

My guess is that the pastor of said church pissed off the architect somehow and they made their displeasure known in a way that wouldn’t immediately be obvious. Hah.

51 Lidane  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:04:00pm
52 thedopefishlives  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:06:17pm

re: #51 Lidane

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Groan. Even the fair wild north country is not immune from nutjobs. See, for example, Michele Bachmann (R-Mars).

53 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:06:43pm

re: #33 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, in the Kremlin:

reuters.com

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I wonder how far the Russians can push. Maybe the red lines aren’t where we thought they were.

54 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:08:06pm

re: #51 Lidane

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Well, at least they didn’t refuse to make a gay cake.

55 Chrysicat  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:11:52pm

re: #48 darthstar

It’s what one would call a come to Jesus moment.

Sure that wouldn’t be come from Jesus?
//
Oh, I’m going to Hell…

56 Lidane  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:15:53pm

This is hilarious:

An Irish guy trying to bring down Guinness? ROFL.

Please proceed.

57 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:21:18pm
58 Lidane  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:22:18pm

Reading the Constitution, you’re doing it wrong:

59 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:22:37pm

re: #55 Chrysicat

Oh, I’m going to Hell…

Don’t worry, we’ll have fun there

60 freetoken  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:23:09pm

I see that Nate Silver is picking his circle of friends:

First Climate Article On Nate Silver’s Data Website Uses ‘Deeply Misleading’ Data, Top Climatologists Say

One of the first articles on Nate Silver’s highly anticipated data-driven news site used flawed data to make its conclusions, according to some of the nation’s top climate scientists.

Silver’s FiveThirtyEight published its first article about climate change on Wednesday, entitled “Disasters Cost More Than Ever — But Not Because of Climate Change.” But climate scientists are condemning the article and its author, Robert Pielke Jr., saying he ignored critical data to produce a “deeply misleading” result.

[…]

61 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:23:23pm

re: #54 Killgore Trout

Well, at least they didn’t refuse to make a gay cake.


For you, Killgore.

62 122 Year Old Obama  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:24:33pm

re: #54 Killgore Trout

Eat dirt.

63 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:26:27pm

The Washington Post gives Putin 4 Pinocchios for his Crimea speech

The Pinocchio Test

The Fact Checker is obviously not rating the entire speech, which reflects Putin’s worldview. But certainly this selection of statements is highly deficient or based on slim facts. He ignores Russia’s real interest in removing nuclear weapons from Ukraine’s soil, which led to a pledge by Moscow to respect Kiev’s sovereignty. He hypes the involvement of nationalist and right-wing groups in the uprising. The Kosovo analogy is a real stretch. One could quibble on whether some of these statements are worth Three Pinocchios, but the statement on the Crimean referendum by itself is worth Four Pinocchios. So that’s what the Russian president earns.

64 EPR-radar  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:26:53pm

re: #60 freetoken

That is a big disappointment. Nate Silver is apparently not properly acquainted with the concept of “not even wrong”, which applies to things like climate change denial and creationism.

Some ideas and positions simply must be excluded from any rational discussion of issues precisely because they are founded on rejection of logic and reason.

65 Chrysicat  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:28:40pm
66 EPR-radar  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:30:29pm

re: #50 Lidane

My guess is that the pastor of said church pissed off the architect somehow and they made their displeasure known in a way that wouldn’t immediately be obvious. Hah.

One would think that the shape of this church would be pretty obvious in the architectural plans for the building (which usually include a top view). Perhaps there was an addition and the plans only showed views of the new construction…

67 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:33:29pm

re: #61 Dark_Falcon

From the article….

Gasthof’s owner Mario Pierzchalski doesn’t understand the uproar. An immigrant of Poland, Pierzchalski said the participants were merely “actors” and “peaceful people.” Even so, Pierzchalski said that after six years of hosting the party, the event will no longer be held at his establishment.

“So now we have a lot of bad messages on our phones; they want to burn down the building,” he told the Star Tribune. “We live in a free country…but from the comments I see, a lot of people they don’t see what freedom is. If I break the law, punish me. But we did this for so many years and everything was fine.”

It was a historical society event, not real Nazis. Should this immigrant be getting death threats? Are we going to extend the same outrage to civil war reenactments with confederate soldiers? It’s silly, this guy doesn’t deserve this. His business hosted an event, these aren’t real Nazis.

68 EPR-radar  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:33:51pm

re: #58 Lidane

Reading the Constitution, you’re doing it wrong:

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I’m confident that Bryan Fischer’s reading of the bible and his reading of the US constitution are both at the same level of rigor and honesty.

69 kirkspencer  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:35:29pm

re: #66 EPR-radar

One would think that the shape of this church would be pretty obvious in the architectural plans for the building (which usually include a top view). Perhaps there was an addition and the plans only showed views of the new construction…

As others have mentioned, it’s one of the subjects of a Cracked article.

71 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:38:06pm

re: #67 Killgore Trout

From the article….

It was a historical society event, not real Nazis. Should this immigrant be getting death threats? Are we going to extend the same outrage to civil war reenactments with confederate soldiers? It’s silly, this guy doesn’t deserve this. His business hosted an event, these aren’t real Nazis.

Maybe
No
Yes
Probably Yes
Fuck them anyways.

72 DKoch  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:38:19pm

Droooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonzes!

People rightfully complain the military budget is too high, but then they whine about low cost pilot-less airplanes, citing fear of robots. Adding to the contradiction, the people screaming the loudest are devout technophiles.

73 dog philosopher  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:38:22pm

re: #11 freetoken

in any one human today are usually less than a hundred kilobases in size

i am definitely larger than a hundred keilbasas

74 DKoch  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:39:40pm

re: #73 dog philosopher

i am definitely larger than a hundred keilbasas

TWSS

75 Chrysicat  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:41:09pm

re: #70 Dark_Falcon

And the Democratic “Senate Majority PAC” also earns 4 Pinocchios for a dishonest attack in Louisiana.

wapo.st

Oh, sure. It’s dishonest because the Republican isn’t taking direct Koch money yet—just being supported by tons of attack ads by Americans for Prosperity.

Of whom is AfP a wholly-owned subsidiary again?
Four Pinocchios for giving four Pinocchios.

76 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:42:05pm

The story behind a Nazi-themed dinner at Gasthof’s

members are involved in educational activities, weekend re-enactment events, and films.

He also maintains that members of the German WWII re-enactment groups are given extensive background checks and no neo-Nazis or “political racists” are allowed to take part in the events.

“If you wear a German uniform or a Nazi uniform, it’s not like you’re saying, ‘I think Hitler was super cool’ or ‘I hate Jews’ or ‘I hate gays’ or ‘I hate democrats,’” Boorom explains. “You’re not there because you believe in what Hitler stood for — you’re there to educate people about history, and a lot of that is so people don’t forget. It’s the same as wanting to be the bad guy when you’re playing cowboys and Indians. There’s an attraction to the bad side.”

77 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:43:10pm

re: #67 Killgore Trout

And if you had posted that in reply to Lidane’s original posting of the story, you’d have been fine. But instead you went and made that “gay cake” crack. And only now do you post from the article, instead of apologizing first. That’s rather disingenuous. Just apologize and leave it at that.

78 Lidane  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:43:32pm

re: #76 Killgore Trout

Youtube Video

79 dog philosopher  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:45:16pm

re: #76 Killgore Trout

The story behind a Nazi-themed dinner at Gasthof’s

and i would like to take the opportunity to remind any jonah goldberg devotees who might be listening that hitler massacred the Social Democrat political leaders right after he got into office

80 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:45:22pm

re: #73 dog philosopher

i am definitely larger than a hundred keilbasas

If a keilbasa is a kilo, I’m way under the 100 limit, closer to the 70 kilo limit. (I guess I’m just a junior Keilbassa weight)

RBS

81 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:46:33pm

re: #67 Killgore Trout

From the article….

It was a historical society event, not real Nazis. Should this immigrant be getting death threats? Are we going to extend the same outrage to civil war reenactments with confederate soldiers? It’s silly, this guy doesn’t deserve this. His business hosted an event, these aren’t real Nazis.

Confederate civil war re-enactors are creepy as hell and should be shamed. This guy hosted a Nazi themed party for years, on MLK day, and in your bottomless credulity for all weak shit you buy his thin excuse about actors. So fucking lame.

82 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:46:56pm

re: #77 Dark_Falcon

And if you had posted that in reply to Lidane’s original posting of the story, you’d have been fine. But instead you went and made that “gay cake” crack. And only now do you post from the article, instead of apologizing first. That’s rather disingenuous. Just apologize and leave it at that.

Three words:

Passive.
Aggressive.
Troll.

83 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:47:29pm

re: #75 Chrysicat

Oh, sure. It’s dishonest because the Republican isn’t taking direct Koch money yet—just being supported by tons of attack ads by Americans for Prosperity.

Of whom is AfP a wholly-owned subsidiary again?
Four Pinocchios for giving four Pinocchios.

They handed out 4 Pinocchios for the Dems misstating AfP and the Koch Brothers agenda and for lying about AfP’s past positions.

BBL

84 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:47:42pm
85 Lidane  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:49:22pm

re: #77 Dark_Falcon

And if you had posted that in reply to Lidane’s original posting of the story, you’d have been fine. But instead you went and made that “gay cake” crack. And only now do you post from the article, instead of apologizing first. That’s rather disingenuous. Just apologize and leave it at that.

Even that explanation is dishonest, though.

I don’t care if someone’s a WW2 cosplayer. I know a guy who is a very passionate WW1 cosplay guy. He’s been doing “living history” roleplay since forever, aging his costumes and gear appropriately as he’s gotten older. But even the most passionate fan of history knows goddamn well that hosting a Nazi themed anything in public is a stupid fucking idea. And hosting it on MLK Day? Really?

I don’t care what their intentions were. It’s still a fucking stupid thing to do.

86 CuriousLurker  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:50:11pm

re: #77 Dark_Falcon

And if you had posted that in reply to Lidane’s original posting of the story, you’d have been fine. But instead you went and made that “gay cake” crack. And only now do you post from the article, instead of apologizing first. That’s rather disingenuous. Just apologize and leave it at that.

THIS.

87 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:50:41pm

re: #85 Lidane

Even that explanation is dishonest, though.

I don’t care if someone’s a WW2 cosplayer. I know a guy who is a very passionate WW1 cosplay guy. He’s been doing “living history” roleplay since forever, aging his costumes and gear appropriately as he’s gotten older. But even the most passionate fan of history knows goddamn well that hosting a Nazi themed anything in public is a stupid fucking idea. And hosting it on MLK Day? Really?

I don’t care what their intentions were. It’s still a fucking stupid thing to do.

Vink, vink, knodge, knodge.

88 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:51:14pm

re: #76 Killgore Trout

The story behind a Nazi-themed dinner at Gasthof’s

” It’s the same as wanting to be the bad guy when you’re playing cowboys and Indians. There’s an attraction to the bad side.”

Wonder which side he thinks of as the “bad guys” in that scenario?

89 dog philosopher  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:52:32pm

re: #87 Decatur Deb

Vink, vink, knodge, knodge.

“mine father vas Peruuuvian, und mine mother vas Peruuuvian, und I am Peruuuvian”

90 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:55:38pm

re: #89 dog philosopher

“mine father vas Peruuuvian, und mine mother vas Peruuuvian, und I am Peruuuvian”

vant to ride my wwama?

91 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:57:09pm

Confederate re-enactors do their thing as part of a ritual battle in which the also get covered in mud, fake die, and eat authentically shitty food to get verisimilitude.

(And some of them are creepy as fuck about the Lost Cause)

Dressing up as a Nazi and a having a beer-and-bratwurst party is re-enacting precisely fuck all.

I would actually be more comfortable if it was a re-enactment of a specific event where specific Nazis did something important.

92 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:58:32pm

Wingnuts clinging to their GUNZ & their Fake Memes.

93 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 4:58:39pm

re: #91 The Ghost of a Flea

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Confederate re-enactors do their thing as part of a ritual battle in which the also get covered in mud, fake die, and eat authentically shitty food to get verisimilitude.

(And some of them are creepy as fuck about the Lost Cause)

Dressing up as a Nazi and a having a beer-and-bratwurst party is re-enacting precisely fuck all.

I would actually be more comfortable if it was a re-enactment of a specific event where specific Nazis did something important.

I try never to miss Malmedy Day.

94 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:01:21pm
95 EPR-radar  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:04:39pm

re: #83 Dark_Falcon

They handed out 4 Pinocchios for the Dems misstating AfP and the Koch Brothers agenda and for lying about AfP’s past positions.

BBL

I think it is impossible for anyone to give a statement about the Koch brothers/AFP agenda that could pass both a left-leaning fact check and a right-leaning fact check.

This is a good illustration of the severe limits of this fact-checking business.

96 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:04:52pm

re: #91 The Ghost of a Flea

[Embedded image]

Confederate re-enactors do their thing as part of a ritual battle in which the also get covered in mud, fake die, and eat authentically shitty food to get verisimilitude.

(And some of them are creepy as fuck about the Lost Cause)

Dressing up as a Nazi and a having a beer-and-bratwurst party is re-enacting precisely fuck all.

I would actually be more comfortable if it was a re-enactment of a specific event where specific Nazis did something important.

I agree it’s silly, but not worth the outrage and threats to the guy’s business.

97 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:05:37pm

re: #88 Eventual Carrion

Wonder which side he thinks of as the “bad guys” in that scenario?

Uh, he’s a dork. Not a Nazi.

98 Chrysicat  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:07:09pm

re: #96 Killgore Trout

I agree it’s silly, but not worth the outrage and threats to the guy’s business.

On the contrary, isn’t this exactly what you MBF conjurers say will happen if someone’s revealed to be—or even cater to—bigots?

The community’s telling him to shape up or it’ll start voting with its wallets and—assuming there aren’t enough bigots to prop it up—he’ll no longer have a business.

99 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:07:13pm

Hey all,

I’m on day two of a migraine.

I’m ready to break something, but I don’t think it would help and the noise would be awful.

you?

100 CuriousLurker  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:07:24pm

re: #81 goddamnedfrank

Confederate civil war re-enactors are creepy as hell and should be shamed. This guy hosted a Nazi themed party for years, on MLK day, and in your bottomless credulity for all weak shit you buy his thin excuse about actors. So fucking lame.

It was also supposedly a Christmas party. On MLK Jr. Day. And “the timing of the party was based only on when the restaurant was closed.”

Minneapolis resident Scott Steben, who has played small parts as a German soldier in at least three movies, said the dinner was a Christmas party and an exercise for period actors like himself who make a hobby of dressing in World War II uniforms. […]

The dinner was held Jan. 20, Martin Luther King Jr. Day, but Steben said the timing of the party was based only on when the restaurant was closed. […]

startribune.com

101 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:07:32pm

re: #97 Killgore Trout

Uh, he’s a dork. Not a Nazi.

If he’s 1st/2nd generation Polish, he knows everything he needs to know about Nazis.

102 Chrysicat  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:08:31pm

re: #99 FemNaziBitch

Hey all,

I’m on day two of a migraine.

I’m ready to break something, but I don’t think it would help and the noise would be awful.

you?

Yikes, that’s possible?!?
I get ‘em pretty badly myself, but as long as I could get my pain pills in AND LIE DOWN WHILE THEY WORKED it would always go away in 6 hours at most…

103 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:09:23pm
104 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:11:07pm

Ugh. I just read part of that Max Blumenthal hit piece on James Kirchick, and the very first article I checked to see if it was represented accurately was completely distorted by Blumenthal:

Accusing Manning of treason, Kirchick argued that Manning should have been executed, and that her supporters were consumed by “a vengeful, anti-state dogma directed mostly at one state: the United States.”

Here’s the article:

nydailynews.com

And here’s what Kirchick actually wrote:

Bradley Manning should consider himself lucky not to be headed to the electric chair.

In a plain reading of the term, the private first class is a traitor. He gave aid to America’s enemies when he indiscriminately shared a quarter-million secret diplomatic cables with the anti-secrecy website WikiLeaks. In perpetrating the largest dump of classified information in American history, he put the lives of countless innocent people worldwide in danger and compromised his country’s national security in manifold ways.

Tuesday, a military judge found him guilty of most of the charges against him that he was contesting, but not guilty of aiding the enemy by posting secret communications where Al Qaeda and others could easily find them, a rough equivalent to printing the names and home addresses of mafia informants in a daily newspaper.

Treason is the only crime defined in the U.S. Constitution, and it warrants the ultimate penalty: death. While Manning’s defenders decry the U.S. for “persecuting” a “whistleblower,” they should be thanking military prosecutors for not seeking capital punishment for Manning’s capital crimes.

He’s obviously NOT “arguing” that Manning “should have been executed” — he’s saying Manning is lucky he didn’t get the death penalty. That’s not the same thing. Blumenthal simply distorted it to make it sound as bad as possible.

What garbage. I couldn’t read any more. Fuck these people.

105 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:11:49pm

re: #102 Chrysicat

Yikes, that’s possible?!?
I get ‘em pretty badly myself, but as long as I could get my pain pills in AND LIE DOWN WHILE THEY WORKED it would always go away in 6 hours at most…

Mine are not technically migraines. Doctors just call them migraines because they have the same symptoms. Due to the Ehlers-Danlos, I have cervical instability which involves the jaw etc. Anyway after so many years, all the nerves can get fired up and it just takes time for them to calm down.

Sometimes Ice helps, sometimes not. Exercize to keep the spine strong is the best preventative and, of course, not moving.

106 Political Atheist  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:14:35pm

So if you were the head of the Ukrainian military, how pissed would you be they took away your nuclear weapons in exchange for an agreement that fell apart at the first whim of Russia?

107 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:14:54pm

It’s probably not a coincidence that these far left hit pieces come out all at once, targeting critics of Russia Today and Glenn Greenwald.

108 Snarknado!  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:15:33pm

{{{FemNaziBitch}}}

(only if it doesn’t add to the pain to be hugged.)

109 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:16:42pm

re: #106 Political Atheist

So if you were the head of the Ukrainian military, how pissed would you be they took away your nuclear weapons in exchange for an agreement that fell apart at the first whim of Russia?

They fucked up, they trusted us.

(Never really liked the heroes of that movie.)

110 Political Atheist  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:16:50pm

re: #99 FemNaziBitch

Hey all,

I’m on day two of a migraine.

I’m ready to break something, but I don’t think it would help and the noise would be awful.

you?

{{(FNB}}} Sorry you are hurtin’.

111 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:17:30pm

re: #106 Political Atheist

So if you were the head of the Ukrainian military, how pissed would you be they took away your nuclear weapons in exchange for an agreement that fell apart at the first whim of Russia?

I’m still upset about the chocolate factory being blockaded…

112 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:18:00pm

re: #111 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m still upset about the chocolate factory being blockaded…

WHAT????

113 EPR-radar  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:18:15pm

re: #107 Charles Johnson

It’s probably not a coincidence that these far left hit pieces come out all at once, targeting critics of Russia Today and Glenn Greenwald.

Agreed. More emulation of the Fox News business model by RT et al.

114 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:18:33pm

re: #112 FemNaziBitch

WHAT????

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115 Political Atheist  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:18:35pm

re: #111 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m still upset about the chocolate factory being blockaded…

Oh right first things first. :-)

116 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:18:36pm

re: #108 Snarknado!

re: #110 Political Atheist

Thanks everyone. keeping my mind off it it is the best—and you all are good at helping me do that!

:)

117 thedopefishlives  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:18:39pm

re: #107 Charles Johnson

It’s probably not a coincidence that these far left hit pieces come out all at once, targeting critics of Russia Today and Glenn Greenwald.

Like you said, the Russians are old hands at propaganda.

118 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:18:50pm

re: #98 Chrysicat

On the contrary, isn’t this exactly what you MBF conjurers say will happen if someone’s revealed to be—or even cater to—bigots?

The community’s telling him to shape up or it’ll start voting with its wallets and—assuming there aren’t enough bigots to prop it up—he’ll no longer have a business.

I don’t think forcing your morality on others is a good idea. It was a private event held in a private business. Forcing them to refrain from offending you behind closed doors is an unhealthy mentality.

119 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:18:55pm

re: #96 Killgore Trout

I agree it’s silly, but not worth the outrage and threats to the guy’s business.

Dismissing things as outrages works better when

(1) You’re not smug enough to make a gay cake joke, or a pepper-spray joke, that suggests that your priority is feeling clever.
(2) You don’t do it with such consistency that it suggests that you’re ostentatiously finding and denouncing “outrages”
(3) You actually read what you’re presenting with sufficient thoroughness to have an informed opinion.
(4) You don’t do so on a board where you rather extravagantly lost your shit, insulted a bunch of people, and never apologized, on the basis of shitty materials that you failed to vet because you were looking for something to be outraged by.

120 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:19:05pm

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Now, that is a reason for a Just War.

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121 thedopefishlives  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:19:22pm

re: #112 FemNaziBitch

WHAT????

Uh-oh. Pootie-poot done made ggt MAD. Now it’s all on!

122 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:19:28pm

re: #115 Political Atheist

Oh right first things first. :-)

Priorities must be maintained!!!!

;)

123 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:20:00pm

re: #121 thedopefishlives

Uh-oh. Pootie-poot done made ggt MAD. Now it’s all on!

Well, cruel and unusual punishment and all that!!!

124 CuriousLurker  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:20:35pm

re: #96 Killgore Trout

I agree it’s silly, but not worth the outrage and threats to the guy’s business.

So then you’re cool with Nakba Day, and think Israel’s outrage over it and the bill the Knesset passed in 2011 requiring the state to penalize local authorities and other state-funded bodies for holding events marking it is totally over the top because free speech, our shared values, etcetera, right?

Or is this a case of “Well, that’s different because…”?

Knesset passes ‘Nakba bill’

The Knesset passed two controversial bills late Tuesday night, infuriating many MKs from Arab and left-wing parties, who claim the bills are racist and run counter to democratic values.

The “Nakba bill”, proposed by Yisrael Beiteinu, requires the state to fine local authorities and other state-funded bodies for holding events marking the Palestinian Nakba Day by supporting armed resistance or racism against Israel, or desecrating the state flag or national symbols.

On Nakba Day Palestinians mark the “catastrophe” of Israel’s inception in 1948.

The bill, which was reworked before its final passing, states that the finance minister will be charged with deciding when to withdraw funds from various groups after considering the opinions of the attorney general and a professional team comprised of members of the ministries of finance and justice.

ynetnews.com

125 EPR-radar  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:20:57pm

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

Priorities must be maintained!!!!

;)

I’ve always liked the “cold, dead hands” line, if applied to chocolate rather than guns.

126 freetoken  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:21:23pm

This is our world:

Nearly half of Americans subscribe to a medical conspiracy theory

Is there really a link between vaccine and autism, cellphones and cancer, the HIV virus and the CIA? Almost half of Americans believe the answer is yes for at least one of the many medical conspiracy theories that have circulated in recent years. And the attitudes and behavior of those conspiracists toward standard medical advice reflect that mistrust, says a study out this week.

A pair of University of Chicago social scientists set out to determine the extent of “medical conspiracism” among the U.S. public and conducted a nationally representative online survey. They gauged knowledge of and beliefs about six widely discussed medical conspiracy theories and explored how belief in those theories influenced individuals’ behavior when it came to matters of health.

[…]

From a paper published here:

Medical Conspiracy Theories and Health Behaviors in the United States

127 CuriousLurker  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:23:10pm

re: #105 FemNaziBitch

{{{FNB}}} Hope you feel better soon.

128 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:23:52pm

re: #126 freetoken

The fluoridation one always gets me.

So freakin’ stupid

129 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:25:39pm

RBS has learned an important lesson. If he makes a dozen cupcakes on Monday evening, there will be exactly 0 cupcakes on Wednesday evening. RBS suspects that he may have a problem.

RBS thinks the solution is to simply make a bigger batch of cupcakes.

RBS

130 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:26:42pm

re: #118 Killgore Trout

I don’t think forcing your morality on others is a good idea. It was a private event held in a private business. Forcing them to refrain from offending you behind closed doors is an unhealthy mentality.

Shaming and shunning of assholes is about the most benign of social controls. Saves a fortune on legislation and litigation. These dipshits were re-enacting the putsch. There is no mention of Allied re-enactors present. Once again—fuck them.

131 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:28:05pm

re: #124 CuriousLurker

So then you’re cool with Nakba Day, and think Israel’s outrage over it and the bill the Knesset passed in 2011 requiring the state to penalize local authorities and other state-funded bodies for holding events marking it is totally over the top because free speech, our shared values, etcetera, right?

I don’t have any opinion of the Israeli law but I wouldn’t support such a thing here in the states, it would probably be unconstitutional anyways. More on topic; I don’t really have a strong opinion of European bans on Nazi symbols and Mien Kampf but I certainly wouldn’t support those laws here in the states.

132 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:28:48pm

re: #129 RealityBasedSteve

RBS has learned an important lesson. If he makes a dozen cupcakes on Monday evening, there will be exactly 0 cupcakes on Wednesday evening. RBS suspects that he may have a problem.

RBS thinks the solution is to simply make a bigger batch of cupcakes.

RBS

Sounds like a way to make a bigger RBS. Just in the quads, if you ride enough!

133 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:30:23pm

re: #131 Killgore Trout

I don’t have any opinion of the Israeli law but I wouldn’t support such a thing here in the states, it would probably be unconstitutional anyways. More on topic; I don’t really have a strong opinion of European bans on Nazi symbols and Mien Kampf but I certainly would support those laws here in the states.

I’m assuming “would” is a typo. I would not ban them, risking that we are stronger than that. Germany, perhaps not.

134 CuriousLurker  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:31:06pm

re: #118 Killgore Trout

I don’t think forcing your morality on others is a good idea. It was a private event held in a private business. Forcing them to refrain from offending behind closed doors is an unhealthy mentality.

Yeah, I can’t understand why those darned Jews always start with their whiny outrage over a harmless little thing like dressing up as perpetrators of genocide. Oh wait, or was it some other group that has the “unhealthy mentality”? Maybe blacks or liberals in general?

News of the party brought hostile emails and phone calls to the owner of Gasthof’s [shown in video thumbnail above], as well as a letter from two local Jewish groups that expressed concern while offering to help the restaurant find another way to honor World War II veterans and Holocaust survivors.

startribune.com

135 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:31:06pm

re: #126 freetoken

This is our world:

Nearly half of Americans subscribe to a medical conspiracy theory

From a paper published here:

Medical Conspiracy Theories and Health Behaviors in the United States

I’m really not surprised; the last American I encountered here - about a year ago - was spinning all kinds of conspiracy theories regarding every subject you could imagine. I was stunned. He was in his mid-20s, I would say, and a recent university graduate.

Everything from 9/11 to the Rothschilds, Bilderbergs, CFR, the Masons; it was having a face-to-face with Alex Jones.

He STFU when he found out that not only was I a Muslim, but a Mason as well (First Degree - sadly, I never got around to finishing up to my Third Degree, but I took the Masonic Oath!)

MWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

136 EPR-radar  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:32:56pm

re: #135 Dr Lizardo

Rejecting conspiracy theory nonsense is a matter of mental discipline that doesn’t correlate as well with formal education as one might think.

137 palomino  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:33:34pm

re: #77 Dark_Falcon

And if you had posted that in reply to Lidane’s original posting of the story, you’d have been fine. But instead you went and made that “gay cake” crack. And only now do you post from the article, instead of apologizing first. That’s rather disingenuous. Just apologize and leave it at that.

What makes you think he would apologize? Can you remember him ever apologizing for anything, no matter how erroneous or offensive?

138 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:33:57pm

re: #135 Dr Lizardo

THE ROTHSCHILDS!

The Borgias of the new Millennium.

139 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:33:58pm

re: #132 wrenchwench

Sounds like a way to make a bigger RBS. Just in the quads, if you ride enough!

Well, I am training for a 400 mile tour in June, it’s going to be an easy one, they carry the gear, the terrain is very flat, but it’s 4 states (Missouri, Kentucky, Tennessee and Arkansas). Should make for a very enjoyable week. (and it’s never too early to start carbo-loading)

RBS

140 CuriousLurker  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:35:13pm

re: #131 Killgore Trout

I don’t have any opinion of the Israeli law but I wouldn’t support such a thing here in the states, it would probably be unconstitutional anyways. More on topic; I don’t really have a strong opinion of European bans on Nazi symbols and Mien Kampf but I certainly wouldn’t support those laws here in the states.

Okay, good to know your stance on that.

BTW, the difference is that the Israeli Nakba bill penalizes state-funded bodies, not private ones. I’m surprised you missed that one.

141 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:35:42pm

re: #135 Dr Lizardo

I’m really not surprised; the last American I encountered here - about a year ago - was spinning all kinds of conspiracy theories regarding every subject you could imagine. I was stunned. He was in his mid-20s, I would say, and a recent university graduate.

Everything from 9/11 to the Rothschilds, Bilderbergs, CFR, the Masons; it was having a face-to-face with Alex Jones.

He STFU when he found out that not only was I a Muslim, but a Mason as well (First Degree - sadly, I never got around to finishing up to my Third Degree, but I took the Masonic Oath!)

MWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

I never knew you’re Muslim. Don’t know why that caught my attention, but it just did.

RBS

142 thedopefishlives  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:36:34pm

re: #136 EPR-radar

Rejecting conspiracy theory nonsense is a matter of mental discipline that doesn’t correlate as well with formal education as one might think.

Take, for example, my father - brilliant and well-trained engineer… Birther dumbass.

143 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:38:18pm

re: #141 RealityBasedSteve

I never knew you’re Muslim. Don’t know why that caught my attention, but it just did.

RBS

Yep….the Naqshbandi-Haqqani Order, headed by Sheikh Muhammad Nazim Adil al-Qubrusi al-Haqqani.

Sufis - known to the West better as whirling dervishes.

144 CuriousLurker  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:39:08pm

re: #135 Dr Lizardo

I’m really not surprised; the last American I encountered here - about a year ago - was spinning all kinds of conspiracy theories regarding every subject you could imagine. I was stunned. He was in his mid-20s, I would say, and a recent university graduate.

Everything from 9/11 to the Rothschilds, Bilderbergs, CFR, the Masons; it was having a face-to-face with Alex Jones.

He STFU when he found out that not only was I a Muslim, but a Mason as well (First Degree - sadly, I never got around to finishing up to my Third Degree, but I took the Masonic Oath!)

MWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

re: #141 RealityBasedSteve

I never knew you’re Muslim. Don’t know why that caught my attention, but it just did.

RBS

Dr Lizardo, you need to practice your Evil Muslim™ laugh some more becuase it’s clearly not scaring the crap out of people like it’s supposed to. //

145 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:39:15pm

re: #142 thedopefishlives

Take, for example, my father - brilliant and well-trained engineer… Birther dumbass.

Something about the engineering brain. I noticed it with my father too.

I (with the artist brain) could understand concepts (physics, philosophy etc) that he just couldn’t. I couldn’t do the math, but I could see the big picture.

146 Decatur Deb  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:39:23pm

re: #135 Dr Lizardo

I’m really not surprised; the last American I encountered here - about a year ago - was spinning all kinds of conspiracy theories regarding every subject you could imagine. I was stunned. He was in his mid-20s, I would say, and a recent university graduate.

Everything from 9/11 to the Rothschilds, Bilderbergs, CFR, the Masons; it was having a face-to-face with Alex Jones.

He STFU when he found out that not only was I a Muslim, but a Mason as well (First Degree - sadly, I never got around to finishing up to my Third Degree, but I took the Masonic Oath!)

MWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Do you have to wear fez atop fez?

147 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:39:32pm

re: #139 RealityBasedSteve

Well, I am training for a 400 mile tour in June, it’s going to be an easy one, they carry the gear, the terrain is very flat, but it’s 4 states (Missouri, Kentucky, Tennessee and Arkansas). Should make for a very enjoyable week. (and it’s never too early to start carbo-loading)

RBS

Some time back I read that there was ONE study of carbo-loading done with women as subjects. Had no benefit. I’m carb-sensitive myself. If I don’t get enough fat and protein in each meal, I’m hungry again very soon. If I eat an apple, it makes me more hungry, not less.

148 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:39:34pm

re: #143 Dr Lizardo

Yep….the Naqshbandi-Haqqani Order, headed by Sheikh Muhammad Nazim Adil al-Qubrusi al-Haqqani.

Sufis - known to the West better as whirling dervishes.

Freddie Mercury?

149 EPR-radar  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:40:12pm

re: #142 thedopefishlives

Take, for example, my father - brilliant and well-trained engineer… Birther dumbass.

Almost certainly, your Dad believes in birther crap out of political antipathy toward Obama, and would never fall for equivalent level BS if applied to a politician he favored or regarded neutrally.

When we choose what we want to believe, critical thinking is usually the first casualty.

150 palomino  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:41:17pm

re: #92 Pie-onist Overlord

Wingnuts clinging to their GUNZ & their Fake Memes.

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How does this support the moar gunz meme. It looks as if the highest firearm murder rates are in southern red states. Many of the lowest rates are in blue states. In between is a fairly random distribution of blue and red.

What do the gun fetishists think this proves?

151 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:41:26pm

She’s movin’ and groovin’!

152 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:41:40pm

re: #147 wrenchwench

Some time back I read that there was ONE study of carbo-loading done with women as subjects. Had no benefit. I’m carb-sensitive myself. If I don’t get enough fat and protein in each meal, I’m hungry again very soon. If I eat an apple, it makes me more hungry, not less.

One of my doctors and his wife (a dietican) devised are Iron people athletes. They figured out that some people need carbs, others protein for endurance sports. I read their book, but can’t remember it all.

I guess it has helped a few people.

153 thedopefishlives  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:42:38pm

re: #149 EPR-radar

Almost certainly, your Dad believes in birther crap out of political antipathy toward Obama, and would never fall for equivalent level BS if applied to a politician he favored or regarded neutrally.

When we choose what we want to believe, critical thinking is usually the first casualty.

Confirmation bias runs strongly in the engineering communities because it’s how we get stuff done; we hold fast to our ways that WORK, without any of that fancy theoretical mumbo-jumbo. It works against us when it comes to things outside our specialist purview. I do wish, sometimes, that critical thinking were more of a discipline among my kind.

154 freetoken  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:42:46pm

On the climate change front, I find it sad, but not unexpected, that Dr. Hansen is finding that his proposals are getting little support from anyone.

The know-nothing wingnuts are still screaming about GOREBULL WARMING conspiracies, while the intransigent Democratic party is divided internally along economic and geographic lines.

Dr. Hansen put it bluntly last week:

[…]

Nuclear scientists were ready in 1976 to build a demonstration fast nuclear power plant. However, the project was stopped by President Jimmy Carter in his first State-of-the-Union message. Research continued at a low level until 1993 when President Bill Clinton delivered an intended coup de grace, declaring “We are eliminating programs that are no longer needed, such as nuclear power research and development.” Clinton was caving in to a quasi-religious anti-nuke minority in the Democratic Party, whose unrealistic “belief” was that diffuse renewable energies could satisfy all energy needs.

R&D on advanced technologies, including thorium reactors with the potential to ameliorate remaining concerns about nuclear power, was stifled, seemingly because it was too promising. Powerful anti-nuclear forces had their way with the Democratic Party. “Green” organizations had indoctrinated themselves in anti-nuclear fervor, and their intransigence blinded them to the fact that they were nearly eliminating the one option for abundant clean electricity with inexhaustible fuel and a small planetary footprint.

[…]

Such progress is crucial. Recent events have been spiraling down so rapidly that I find it hard to sleep. Ex-President Clinton campaigns for a huge pipeline to carry Canadian tar sands, which would light a fuse to the dirtiest energy source on Earth, opening the way for unconventional fossil fuels that should be left in the ground. Dogged insistence by environmental groups that intermittent renewable energies are the only alternative to fossil fuels assures massive expansion of hydraulic-fracturing and helps lock-in longterm dependence on gas for electricity and carbon-intensive crude oil for vehicles.

[…]

It’s pretty clear he doesn’t hold the Clintons in high regard.

155 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:43:17pm

Any world leader that would block a chocolate factory —well, I just can’t fine the words.

156 palomino  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:45:24pm

re: #62 122 Year Old Obama

Eat dirt shit.

FTFY.

157 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:45:37pm
158 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:45:39pm

re: #146 Decatur Deb

Do you have to wear fez atop fez?

I actually wish I had a fez; I should have bought one when I lived in Berlin.

All the cool Sufis were wearing them. Seriously!

159 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:45:58pm

I LOVE audible.com.

There was some sort of computer glitch in processing my ccard and I had to contact them. They fixed it and gave me a free credit.

All within 15 minutes!!!!!

160 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:46:16pm

re: #148 FemNaziBitch

Freddie Mercury?

I think he was Zoroastrian if I remember right.

161 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:47:07pm

re: #160 Dr Lizardo

I think he was Zoroastrian if I remember right.

hmmm, I thought he was the dervish type - I can’t remember.

162 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:47:19pm

re: #147 wrenchwench

Some time back I read that there was ONE study of carbo-loading done with women as subjects. Had no benefit. I’m carb-sensitive myself. If I don’t get enough fat and protein in each meal, I’m hungry again very soon. If I eat an apple, it makes me more hungry, not less.

For me it’s not a big deal, when I’m touring I try and keep the heart rate down below 90% of my Lactate Threshold. That way I’m working almost exclusively on a fat metabolism rather than glycogen. About the only time I really carb up is when I’m going to do a 1 day ride, like we have on Memorial Day and Labor Day here. Then I’m usually pushing a lot harder, trying for a personal best.

I’m actually looking at trying my hand at Brevet riding (Randonneuring), a series of 200, 300, 400 and 600 km rides against a fixed time limit. I may not be fast, but I’m steady.

RBS

163 freetoken  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:47:47pm

re: #157 Charles Johnson

The Russian leaders’ egos have been hurting ever since we got involved in the solving the Balkan problems, pushing for independence for those who were fighting traditional Russian allies.

I don’t see and end to this.

164 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:48:43pm

re: #155 FemNaziBitch

Any world leader that would block a chocolate factory —well, I just can’t fine the words.

It’s a sad new era in warfare when chocolate assets are attacked.

165 EPR-radar  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:50:17pm

re: #153 thedopefishlives

Confirmation bias runs strongly in the engineering communities because it’s how we get stuff done; we hold fast to our ways that WORK, without any of that fancy theoretical mumbo-jumbo. It works against us when it comes to things outside our specialist purview. I do wish, sometimes, that critical thinking were more of a discipline among my kind.

My degrees are all in electrical engineering, but I think more like a scientist than an engineer. It would be good to see more emphasis on critical thinking in the engineering departments in academia. If nothing else, it would probably be helpful for engineers confronted with a need to come up with new and better designs.

166 CuriousLurker  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:50:22pm

re: #161 FemNaziBitch

hmmm, I thought he was the dervish type - I can’t remember.

Freddie Mercury: Early life

Mercury was born on the British protectorate of Zanzibar, East Africa (now part of Tanzania). His parents, Bomi and Jer Bulsara, were Parsis from the Gujarat region of the then province of Bombay Presidency in British India. The family surname is derived from the town of Bulsar (also known as Valsad) in southern Gujarat. As Parsis, Mercury and his family practised the Zoroastrian religion. The Bulsara family had moved to Zanzibar so that his father could continue his job as a cashier at the British Colonial Office. He had a younger sister, Kashmira.

en.wikipedia.org

167 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:50:32pm

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s a sad new era in warfare when chocolate assets are attacked.

Isn’t that a violation of the Geneva Confections?

RBS

168 Kragar  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:50:33pm

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s a sad new era in warfare when chocolate assets are attacked.

First they came for the chocolate…

169 CuriousLurker  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:51:06pm

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s a sad new era in warfare when chocolate assets are attacked.

Inorite? Is nothing sacred anymore??

170 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:51:18pm

re: #162 RealityBasedSteve

For me it’s not a big deal, when I’m touring I try and keep the heart rate down below 90% of my Lactate Threshold. That way I’m working almost exclusively on a fat metabolism rather than glycogen. About the only time I really carb up is when I’m going to do a 1 day ride, like we have on Memorial Day and Labor Day here. Then I’m usually pushing a lot harder, trying for a personal best.

I’m actually looking at trying my hand at Brevet riding (Randonneuring), a series of 200, 300, 400 and 600 km rides against a fixed time limit. I may not be fast, but I’m steady.

RBS

Brevets are cool. I like all the rules about having lights and not finishing too soon.

Why stop there? RAAM, baby!

171 Political Atheist  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:52:00pm

re: #33 Dr Lizardo

Meanwhile, in the Kremlin:

reuters.com

[Embedded image]

Okay so if say Glendale California starts being kinda hard on Russian speaking residents (they have a bunch of them by way of former Soviet Armenia) Putin may well annex…. Glendale. Got it.

///

Putin On The Ritz

172 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:52:29pm

re: #138 FemNaziBitch

THE ROTHSCHILDS!

The Borgias of the new Millennium.

I know an actual Rothschild.

She has the authentic pedigree & genealogy, but none of the money.

173 CuriousLurker  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:52:36pm

re: #162 RealityBasedSteve

re: #170 wrenchwench

Are you guys even speaking English??

174 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:53:11pm

re: #133 Decatur Deb

I’m assuming “would” is a typo. I would >not ban them, risking that we are stronger than that. Germany, perhaps not.

Yup.

175 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:54:56pm

re: #170 wrenchwench

Brevets are cool. I like all the rules about having lights and not finishing too soon.

Why stop there? RAAM, baby!

OH HELL NO!!!!! One of the local cycling teams in Nashville supported team effort in RAAM doing it on fixies.

I’ve built a dyno hub wheel for my main touring recumbent, that and a 100 dollar german light, I can cruise an unlit country road on a moonless night at 18 mph and not be overridding my lights.

RBS

176 jamesfirecat  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:55:54pm

re: #159 FemNaziBitch

I LOVE audible.com.

There was some sort of computer glitch in processing my ccard and I had to contact them. They fixed it and gave me a free credit.

All within 15 minutes!!!!!

I loved auidable also they were a great service that I may start into again now that I may soon once again have a paying job.

That said also consider getting in touch with your local library, I was lucky enough to discover that mine had a surprisingly large number of digital audio books a up for rent at no cost!

177 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:55:55pm

I’m not leaving yet, working late, but it’s never too soon to post the latest niece pic.

178 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:57:08pm

re: #175 RealityBasedSteve

OH HELL NO!!!!! One of the local cycling teams in Nashville supported team effort in RAAM doing it on fixies.

I’ve built a dyno hub wheel for my main touring recumbent, that and a 100 dollar german light, I can cruise an unlit country road on a moonless night at 18 mph and not be overridding my lights.

RBS

Now that’s insane. No wonder these events are often sponsored by orthopedic surgeons.

179 Political Atheist  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 5:57:11pm

Putin On The Ritz

Youtube Video

180 Belafon  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:01:24pm

re: #165 EPR-radar

I’m really leaning toward the idea that everyone needs to take a semester on Bayes Theorem. I can’t really think of a better way to show how bad humans are at reasoning than to show how easy it would be for a 96% accurate drug test to put you in jail.

181 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:02:11pm

Found a news article about the chocolate factory:

Russian police close Ukrainian-owned sweet factory

really…it’s come to “chocolate wars” now?

182 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:06:27pm

twitter.com

183 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:07:25pm

184 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:10:16pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

Found a news article about the chocolate factory:

Russian police close Ukrainian-owned sweet factory

really…it’s come to “chocolate wars” now?

Willy Wonka, Fighter Pilot

185 bratwurst  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:10:21pm

Here is the last 10 days in a nutshell:

186 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:11:07pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

Found a news article about the chocolate factory:

Russian police close Ukrainian-owned sweet factory

really…it’s come to “chocolate wars” now?

I side with Reeses cups

187 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:14:13pm

Been reading some other articles going back to last summer.
It really IS a chocolate war!

188 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:14:45pm

re: #186 sattv4u2

I side with Reeses cups

My money is on the peanut M&M’s, they’re nuts

189 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:16:30pm

re: #188 Eventual Carrion

My money is on the peanut M&M’s, they’re nuts

I get the misprinted ones, they have W’s on them.

RBS

190 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:16:51pm

re: #188 Eventual Carrion

My money is on the peanut M&M’s, they’re nuts

I got a defective bag of M&M’s

They were all stamped with W’s !!!!

191 HappyWarrior  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:16:59pm

re: #177 wrenchwench

I’m not leaving yet, working late, but it’s never too soon to post the latest niece pic.

[Embedded image]

Cute. Here’s the latest of mine

192 sattv4u2  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:17:16pm

re: #189 RealityBasedSteve

faster typer than me, I see

193 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:18:04pm

re: #190 sattv4u2

I got a defective bag of M&M’s

They were all stamped with W’s !!!!

Beat ya by 21 seconds. Yea Steve!!!

RBS

194 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:20:06pm

re: #126 freetoken

This is our world:

Nearly half of Americans subscribe to a medical conspiracy theory

From a paper published here:

Medical Conspiracy Theories and Health Behaviors in the United States

I don’t believe any of those “conspiracies” at all. But I do think that physicians often over-prescribe. And prescribe wrongly. Esp when you tell them you don’t tolerate opiates and they still give them to you. Or they don’t read your info and give you something you are allergic to, such as the penicillin I was prescribed a few mos ago by a dentist.

We’ve also had overprescribing of antibiotics, and anti-psychotics and selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs). Pharms are notorious for courting doctors with their latest products and using the public for their guinea pigs, often after only cursory trials by the pharms, and quick approvals by the FDA. I’m not even going to get in mfg quality control, esp of generics.

I’m just now getting over that 100 mg of Tramadol I took last night and the nauseating effects it had on me, after I requested no opioids or opiates, synthetics or semi-synthetics. Of any kind. No darvocet, percocet, Tylenol 3, Dilaudid, none of that crap—all of which I’ve been prescribed in the past and did not take past the first couple of pills after experiencing the side effects of nausea and/or vomiting.

Don’t get me wrong. Some drugs are great and life savers, but so are changes in lifestyle, taking care of oneself, and using preventative measures, and we’re not taught a lot of that, at least correctly. I applaud the Obamas in that respect and their efforts to change our diets, get us moving, preventing disease and getting care of chronic diseases.

195 Stanley Sea  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:20:09pm

re: #177 wrenchwench

I’m not leaving yet, working late, but it’s never too soon to post the latest niece pic.

[Embedded image]

She’s like, heeeeyyyyy

196 Political Atheist  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:21:00pm

Overheard in Moscow….

Lufthansa heist?! Pffft. Great train robbery?! Puuhlease.

Putin stole Crimea and will never serve a day for it.

197 EPR-radar  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:21:10pm

re: #180 Belafon

I’m really leaning toward the idea that everyone needs to take a semester on Bayes Theorem. I can’t really think of a better way to show how bad humans are at reasoning than to show how easy it would be for a 96% accurate drug test to put you in jail.

This really shouldn’t take a semester to do. For example, lets suppose we have a 99% accurate drug test that is administered to 1,000,000 people, and that 10% of these 1,000,000 people are drug users.

Simplifying things a bit, the results will be:

99,000 people correctly identified as drug users.

1,000 people incorrectly identified as non-drug users.

891,000 people correctly identified as non-drug users.

9,000 people incorrectly identified as drug users.

So if all that is known about someone from this group of people is that they failed the drug test, the chance that they are actually a drug user is 99/108, which is about a 9% false positive rate. This false positive rate is much greater than the 1% error rate one would naively expect from the raw accuracy of the test.

198 chadu  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:22:46pm

That’s a pretty cool vidjo!

(Late to the par-tay, y’all.)

199 chadu  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:29:37pm

re: #13 Kragar

And now, in order to maintain a fair and balanced discussion of the topic, allow me to present the counter argument:

*ahem*

>”MY FAMILY DIDN’T COME FROM NO MONKEYS!! IT SAYS SO IN THE BIBLE!”

Thank you.

I’m proud of my 2.8% Neanderthal genes!

200 darthstar  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:29:43pm

Background:

But it all worked out in the end:

201 Lidane  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:30:00pm

re: #142 thedopefishlives

Take, for example, my father - brilliant and well-trained engineer… Birther dumbass.

I have an uncle like that. He’s smart on some things, but an absolute fucking moron when it comes to everything else. I will never forget his demanding that we find a Mexican restaurant in Portland, Oregon when we all went for a family wedding. WTF. All the fresh seafood and local fare up there and you want Mexican food? Fail.

I wasn’t surprised when he outed himself as a birther.

202 freetoken  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:33:20pm

re: #180 Belafon

I’m really leaning toward the idea that everyone needs to take a semester on Bayes Theorem.

I’m having visions of everyone sitting in coffee shops to the wee hours of the morning, discussing objective versus subjective interpretations of probability… and the entire economy collapsing.

203 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:34:30pm

re: #202 freetoken

I’m having visions of everyone sitting in coffee shops to the wee hours of the morning, discussing objective versus subjective interpretations of probability… and the entire economy collapsing.

Is that after a night of heavy drinking? : )

204 Belafon  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:36:52pm

re: #197 EPR-radar

I suspect it will take a lot of examples to get over people’s normal inclination to believe that a test that is 98% accurate will only fail two percent of the time, and therefore, only two out of 100 people will get flagged wrong. Or a test for cancer, or other similar problems. It takes a while to get the idea that it’s more than just the test accuracy that influences the results.

205 CuriousLurker  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:37:57pm

OT: Are there any database people here?

I’m cleaning up a MySQL database table that has some duplicate entries, namely inventory ID (inv_id) numbers for 600+ records. About 2/3 of the records are also for the same company—i.e. they are (or were, until they got updated by the client)—exact duplicates. For those, I’ve already confirmed that I can safely delete the one with the older contract expiration date.

For the others, the inv_id numbers are the same, but are for different companies. Those are going to need new numbers so that the correct record will come up when the client wants to update it. Can I manually renumber these, or would it be more practical to just drop the inv_id field for that table and then recreate it and figure out how to automatically repopulate it as an auto incrementing primary key?

BTW, for some reason the inv_id is no longer a primary key. I’m not sure how that happened unless it was when I was merging an old backed-up table with a new one… Anyway, any advice and/or warnings about potential gotchas would be greatly appreciated.

206 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:40:10pm

He served under George HW Bush and Jimmy Carter, but never Ronald Reagan.

207 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:40:35pm

re: #204 Belafon

I suspect it will take a lot of examples to get over people’s normal inclination to believe that a test that is 98% accurate will only fail two percent of the time, and therefore, only two out of 100 people will get flagged wrong. Or a test for cancer, or other similar problems. It takes a while to get the idea that it’s more than just the test accuracy that influences the results.

I consider myself relatively intelligent, but without that previous example, I’d never would have thought about it from that perspective. I’m going to have to do some more reading on this.

Thanks

RBS

208 chadu  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:41:57pm

re: #73 dog philosopher

i am definitely larger than a hundred keilbasas

You just have’t found the right kielbasas.

209 Stanley Sea  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:43:22pm

re: #200 darthstar

Background:

[Embedded content]

Meghan is a chicken shit.

210 CuriousLurker  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:45:33pm

One more thing: The following query lets me see all the data for all duplicate records, which is great.

SELECT *
FROM inventory
WHERE inv_id IN (
SELECT inv_id
FROM inventory
GROUP BY inv_id
HAVING count(inv_id) > 1
)
ORDER BY inv_id

BUT, if I wanted to just select duplicate records where the inv_id and company_name are the same but the exp_date is later… can anyone nudge me towards the best statements/clauses to use in my query?

IOW, what I’m saying is I’m desperately trying to avoid having to manually compare like 400 records and drop 200 of them. O_o

211 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:45:55pm

I’m wondering what time zone Carrie Dann is in, since today is still Wednesday in the US.

Obama Rules Out ‘Military Excursion’ in Ukraine

nbcnews.com

212 Belafon  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:47:44pm

re: #207 RealityBasedSteve

I like this as an introduction. If you work through the web page, it gives you areas to do calculations as you read.

213 freetoken  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:48:19pm

Innumeracy is as American as, well, deception. Tamino tackled this yesterday about another burp of derp in the denialosphere:

What We’re Up Against

214 chadu  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:49:57pm

re: #148 FemNaziBitch

Freddie Mercury?

Pretty sure Freddie Mercury was raised (at least) Zoroastrian.

215 CuriousLurker  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:50:31pm

$#@&*!

Any other night there would be half a dozen tech wonks in here with answers. I guess I’m on my own on this one. Wish me luck! Later, lizards.

216 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:50:50pm

re: #210 CuriousLurker

One more thing: The following query lets me see all the data for all duplicate records, which is great.

SELECT *
FROM inventory
WHERE inv_id IN (
SELECT inv_id
FROM inventory
GROUP BY inv_id
HAVING count(inv_id) > 1
)
ORDER BY inv_id

BUT, if I wanted to just select duplicate records where the inv_id and company_name are the same but the exp_date is later… can anyone nudge me towards the best statements/clauses to use in my query?

IOW, what I’m saying is I’m desperately trying to avoid having to manually compare like 400 records and drop 200 of them. O_o

Now YOU’RE not speaking English!

217 chadu  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:51:22pm

re: #158 Dr Lizardo

I actually wish I had a fez; I should have bought one when I lived in Berlin.

All the cool Sufis were wearing them. Seriously!

[Embedded image]

So those two ladies aren’t cool.

I see how you are.

///

218 chadu  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:51:52pm

re: #160 Dr Lizardo

I think he was Zoroastrian if I remember right.

SCOOPED (and upding’d)!

219 EPR-radar  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:51:56pm

re: #216 wrenchwench

Now YOU’RE not speaking English!

That last past seems perfectly clear to me. The rest, however, is a mystery.

220 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:52:55pm

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s a sad new era in warfare when chocolate assets are attacked.

It’s just NOT RIGHT!

221 wrenchwench  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:52:56pm

Now I’m leaving.

Later, lizards.

222 chadu  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:53:01pm

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s a sad new era in warfare when chocolate assets are attacked.

Misread of the day: It’s a sad new era in warfare when chapless asses are attacked.

Dyslexic Spoonerism?

223 Political Atheist  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:53:13pm

Hump day Evening music break

Okay I’m just smitten,. Heh old school word there. I mean I just can sit and listen to this lady all day long. She even keeps really good company like Joe Bonamassa. Unique vibrato in her voice. She even sings about my home town if a sad way. Oh and she hangs with Jeff Beck a little bit.

Youtube Video

224 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:53:47pm

re: #172 Pie-onist Overlord

I know an actual Rothschild.

She has the authentic pedigree & genealogy, but none of the money.

that must suck!

225 palomino  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:53:51pm

re: #211 Justanotherhuman

I’m wondering what time zone Carrie Dann is in, since today is still Wednesday in the US.

Obama Rules Out ‘Military Excursion’ in Ukraine

nbcnews.com

This will give McCain and Graham, plus Kristol and Krauthammer (and the rest of the Fox “All-Stars”) a giant soft-on.

They’ll be terribly disappointed that Obama the Weakling won’t invade Russia or former Soviet republics. All of our former presidents had the guts to invade Russia, right? We’ve done it over and over in the past, haven’t we?

226 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:54:38pm

re: #176 jamesfirecat

I loved auidable also they were a great service that I may start into again now that I may soon once again have a paying job.

That said also consider getting in touch with your local library, I was lucky enough to discover that mine had a surprisingly large number of digital audio books a up for rent at no cost!

Yes, libraries have been keeping up with the times!

227 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:54:58pm

re: #179 Political Atheist

Putin On The Ritz

[Embedded content]

Putin Pie?

228 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:56:20pm

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

Been reading some other articles going back to last summer.
It really IS a chocolate war!

Well, I remember some of the factions in West Africa were holding back cocoa bean shipments, but for a big Developed Nation to do such a thing!

229 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:57:20pm

re: #199 chadu

I’m proud of my 2.8% Neanderthal genes!

genetic diversity is a good thing.

230 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:58:38pm

vocabulary for the day:

Bayes’ Theorem

231 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 6:58:58pm

re: #210 CuriousLurker

One more thing: The following query lets me see all the data for all duplicate records, which is great.

SELECT *
FROM inventory
WHERE inv_id IN (
SELECT inv_id
FROM inventory
GROUP BY inv_id
HAVING count(inv_id) > 1
)
ORDER BY inv_id

BUT, if I wanted to just select duplicate records where the inv_id and company_name are the same but the exp_date is later… can anyone nudge me towards the best statements/clauses to use in my query?

IOW, what I’m saying is I’m desperately trying to avoid having to manually compare like 400 records and drop 200 of them. O_o

I’d probably do a self join, something like this…

SELECT I.Inv_ID, I.Company_Name, I.Expry_date, I2.Inv_ID, I2.Company_Name, I2.Expry_Date
FROM Inventory as I
JOIN Inventory as I2
ON I.Inv_id = I2.Inv_ID, I.Company_Name = I2.Company_Name
Where I.Expry_Date < I2.Expry_Date

Something like that should get you along the right path.

RBS

232 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:00:42pm

Have a Feline Overlord vs 2 younger dogs staredown right now.

233 Belafon  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:01:02pm

re: #215 CuriousLurker

I wish I could help, and while I recognize that the second question requires a correlated subquery, I would have to stare at a few examples to get it right. I write a query like that about every 5 years. Even for your first question, I would have to scour the internet.

ETA: And then RBS comes up with something simpler.

234 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:02:11pm
235 CuriousLurker  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:02:53pm

re: #231 RealityBasedSteve

Thanks!

236 CuriousLurker  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:03:48pm

re: #233 Belafon

I wish I could help, and while I recognize that the second question requires a correlated subquery, I would have to stare at a few examples to get it right. I write a query like that about every 5 years. Even for your first question, I would have to scour the internet.

ETA: And then RBS comes up with something simpler.

;o) Thx.

237 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:03:58pm

Netanyahu orders IDF to prepare for possible strike on Iran during 2014

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon have ordered the army to continue preparing for a possible military strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities at a cost of at least 10 billion shekels ($2.89 billion) this year, despite the talks between Iran and the West, according to recent statements by senior military officers.

Three Knesset members who were present at Knesset joint committee hearings on Israel Defense Forces plans that were held in January and February say they learned during the hearings that 10 billion shekels to 12 billion shekels of the defense budget would be allocated this year for preparations for a strike on Iran, approximately the same amount that was allocated in 2013.

238 chadu  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:05:15pm

John-Thomas Dong Wang Jimbrowski.

239 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:06:01pm

re: #233 Belafon

I wish I could help, and while I recognize that the second question requires a correlated subquery, I would have to stare at a few examples to get it right. I write a query like that about every 5 years. Even for your first question, I would have to scour the internet.

ETA: And then RBS comes up with something simpler.

My “Mental Processor” says that it should work, I really hate correlated sub-queries, and since MS SQL often rewrites them internally as a join when it optimizes them, I just figured do it as a join to start with.

I taught a T-SQL class a couple of weeks ago, I think I did something like this as an example. (I’ve slept since then, so I don’t recall)

RBS

240 freetoken  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:08:29pm

Over at RealClimate, Gavin is rallying the troops to come up with better graphs, to communicate data like temperature to the masses:

Can we make better graphs of global temperature history?

I’m writing this post to see if our audience can help out with a challenge: Can we collectively produce some coherent, properly referenced, open-source, scalable graphics of global temperature history that will be accessible and clear enough that we can effectively out-compete the myriad inaccurate and misleading pictures that continually do the rounds on social media?

It’s a noble quest.

In a Don Quixote kind of way.

241 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:08:48pm

re: #205 CuriousLurker

>OT: Are there any database people here?

I’m cleaning up a MySQL database table that has some duplicate entries, namely inventory ID (inv_id) numbers for 600+ records. About 2/3 of the records are also for the same company—i.e. they are (or were, until they got updated by the client)—exact duplicates. For those, I’ve already confirmed that I can safely delete the one with the older contract expiration date.

For the others, the inv_id numbers are the same, but are for different companies. Those are going to need new numbers so that the correct record will come up when the client wants to update it. Can I manually renumber these, or would it be more practical to just drop the inv_id field for that table and then recreate it and figure out how to automatically repopulate it as an auto incrementing primary key?

BTW, for some reason the inv_id is no longer a primary key. I’m not sure how that happened unless it was when I was merging an old backed-up table with a new one… Anyway, any advice and/or warnings about potential gotchas would be greatly appreciated.

I would do a SELECT DISTINCT to get the unique ID’s and load them into a new table.

242 chadu  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:09:20pm
My search results terrify me.
March 18, 2014
in Random Crap

Every few weeks I check my search results to see what people were looking for that brought them to this blog. Then I blog about them and then I get even more weird search terms the next week. It’s like I’m asking for this. Stop blaming the victim, you guys.

The strangest searches that brought people to thebloggess.com this week:

“What will happened if centipedes go inside your ear?” (Screaming, probably?)

“Does anyone pronounce the L in caulk?” (I find it’s more fun if you don’t.)

“Why is everything making sense in my life?” (Frankly, that would be disconcerting to me too.)

“Not my fault your ugly.” (Fair enough. Not my fault you can’t use “you’re” properly.)

“Human baby eating” (I’m confused. Are you wanting to know what human babies should be eating, or the best way to eat human babies? Please be more specific.)

“How to make people think you are a wizard” (Good luck with that.)

thebloggess.com

243 EPR-radar  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:09:28pm

re: #240 freetoken

This shows a touching faith in the power of reason to sway people’s opinions.

244 CuriousLurker  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:12:20pm

re: #241 Pie-onist Overlord

I would do a SELECT DISTINCT to get the unique ID’s and load them into a new table.

Thanks. New table is a good idea, I can always rename it later.

245 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:12:43pm

re: #241 Pie-onist Overlord

I would do a SELECT DISTINCT to get the unique ID’s and load them into a new table.

Needless to say,,, whatever you do, make sure you’re doing it on the test / dev copy of the dB, not the Prod version. Been there, done that, ruined a weekend.

RBS

246 Belafon  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:15:14pm

re: #239 RealityBasedSteve

I’m not fond of them, though this problem just suggested it to me based on the wording. Because I don’t write complicated SQL very often, I tend to forget about joining a table to itself.

I’m a software engineer, not a DBA, damn it!

247 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:16:01pm

re: #245 RealityBasedSteve

Needless to say,,, whatever you do, make sure you’re doing it on the test / dev copy of the dB, not the Prod version. Been there, done that, ruined a weekend.

RBS

Little Bobby Tables strikes again.

Image: exploits_of_a_mom.png

248 Pie-onist Overlord  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:16:16pm

re: #245 RealityBasedSteve

Needless to say,,, whatever you do, make sure you’re doing it on the test / dev copy of the dB, not the Prod version. Been there, done that, ruined a weekend.

RBS

249 CuriousLurker  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:16:44pm

re: #245 RealityBasedSteve

Needless to say,,, whatever you do, make sure you’re doing it on the test / dev copy of the dB, not the Prod version. Been there, done that, ruined a weekend.

RBS

Heh, yeah, I was just thinking I’m either going to copy the table in question and test my queries there, or recreate it locally for testing purposes.

I have a cron job set up to run a shell script that backs up all the tables every night, and then emails me a copy and stores another one on the server, so that gives me some peace of mind.

250 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:19:07pm

re: #247 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Little Bobby Tables strikes again.

Image: exploits_of_a_mom.png

Believe it or not… I have that image, I use it in class when I talk about SQL injections, Validating User Input, things like that.

RBS

251 freetoken  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:19:21pm

re: #243 EPR-radar

This shows a touching faith in the power of reason to sway people’s opinions.

It’s very 19th century of them.

My snark about Don Quixote was meant to be more than just snark.

All too often we are marks for our own chosen particular profession/occupation/avocation.

Gavin spends his day immersed in data, graphs, communications about such, and so on. And thus he projects that such human inventions (and remember graphs are just pictures, sort of like the Mona Lisa, but with fewer smiles) will be appreciated by all other humans.

Communicating science is one of those hot topics in the overlap between social sciences and hard sciences these days.

I’ve tried.

For years.

For decades.

E.g., I first dealt with creationist well over 3 decades ago.

At some point I came to the conclusion that people will believe whatever they need to, to get through the day.

252 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:20:14pm

re: #246 Belafon

I’m not fond of them, though this problem just suggested it to me based on the wording. Because I don’t write complicated SQL very often, I tend to forget about joining a table to itself.

I’m a software engineer, not a DBA, damn it!

It’s ‘cuz joining a table to itself just seems “wrong”. Like going to the family reunion to pick up chicks.

RBS

253 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:20:51pm

re: #223 Political Atheist

I’m a blues enthusiast, and her rendition even beats versions by Susan Tedeschi (who sang it at the WH) and the writer of the song, Etta James. Fabulous blues voice, and she’s had to overcome drug addiction as well. Music is a tough business.

blogs.dallasobserver.com

254 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:21:52pm

Well, night gang. Gotta teach me some SharePoint tomorrow, and I need my beauty coma.

RBS

255 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:22:57pm

re: #249 CuriousLurker

Yep, best way to test this kind of situation is create a script that drops the temporary table if it already exists, then creates a temporary table with the preliminary results on which you can run further test queries.

256 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:23:39pm

re: #111 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m still upset about the chocolate factory being blockaded…

You didn’t hear the follow-up on that one? It came out that Willie Wonka cut a deal with some Russian oligarchs to take over that factory, fire its workforce and then staff it with Wonka’s Oompa-Loompas. In return he gets cut of the proceeds and a promise that Putin will sic the FSB on Cadbury.

///

257 ObserverArt  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:28:44pm

re: #151 wrenchwench

She’s movin’ and groovin’!

Nina Simone: Save Me fb.me

Thanks for that. That had a great groove going on.

258 Weet  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:34:04pm

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259 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:35:34pm

Ran into this old joke from the 90’s in Moscow:

Everything the Communists told us about communism was a complete and utter lie. Unfortunately, everything the Communists told us about capitalism turned out to be true.

Somehow this just seemed appropriate tonight.

260 CuriousLurker  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:36:10pm

re: #255 Charles Johnson

Yep, best way to test this kind of situation is create a script that drops the temporary table if it already exists, then creates a temporary table with the preliminary results on which you can run further test queries.

Thanks!

261 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:36:26pm

re: #256 Dark_Falcon

You didn’t hear the follow-up on that one? It came out that Willie Wonka cut a deal with some Russian oligarchs to take over that factory, fire its workforce and then staff it with Wonka’s Oompa-Loompas. In return he gets cut of the proceeds and a promise that Putin will sic the FSB on Cadbury.

///

John Boehner weeps for the exploitation of his proud, chocolate-and-rhyming-couplet loving kinsmen.

262 Kragar  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:36:42pm
263 Charles Johnson  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:40:07pm

Self joins are a very good thing to learn about, as RBS noted above. By joining a table to itself you can get results even for rows that would be excluded with a normal query.

264 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:40:09pm

re: #262 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Shitty-talking misogynistic fat-ass say shit. Footage at 10.

265 Gus  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:40:19pm
266 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:46:43pm

Always be wary of journalism based on academic papers

Automatic approval for weak study on robot journalism

“Could robots be the journalists of the future?” asks The Guardian. “People Think Computer Journalists Are More Trustworthy Than Human Ones,” says Vice’s Motherboard. “Robots have mastered news writing. Goodbye journalism,” blares Wired UK. File these under self-fulfilling prophecies. Human reporters are supposed to discern good information from bad, and these stories are based on a flimsy academic report out of Sweden that found “readers are not able to discern automated content from content written by a human.” -

lol

267 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:50:56pm

re: #266 Killgore Trout

Always be wary of journalism based on academic papers

Automatic approval for weak study on robot journalism

lol

A well-made and timely point, Killgore. Just watch out for the dudebros while dealing with topic:

ZOMG!!1 THERE’S GONNA BE BLOGS WRITTEN BY DRONEZZ!!1

268 Weet  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:51:39pm

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269 palomino  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 7:56:59pm

re: #237 NJDhockeyfan

If you read the whole piece, it sounds as if 2014 is just a continuation of the 2013 policy, in terms of both substance and expenditures.

270 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 8:22:36pm

re: #269 palomino

If you read the whole piece, it sounds as if 2014 is just a continuation of the 2013 policy, in terms of both substance and expenditures.

I thought that too but some experts are saying Iran will have a bomb in as little as 2 months. Israel will strike with or without our help.

271 BeenHereAwhile  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 8:32:33pm

re: #237 NJDhockeyfan

Netanyahu orders IDF to prepare for possible strike on Iran during 2014

This appears to be more “appealing to the base” bluster by Netayahu, Iran knows that Israel doesn’t have conventional weapon capability to deliver a knockout blow to Iran’s hardened facilities.

272 andres  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 8:47:14pm

re: #205 CuriousLurker

>OT: Are there any database people here?

I’m cleaning up a MySQL database table that has some duplicate entries, namely inventory ID (inv_id) numbers for 600+ records. About 2/3 of the records are also for the same company—i.e. they are (or were, until they got updated by the client)—exact duplicates. For those, I’ve already confirmed that I can safely delete the one with the older contract expiration date.

For the others, the inv_id numbers are the same, but are for different companies. Those are going to need new numbers so that the correct record will come up when the client wants to update it. Can I manually renumber these, or would it be more practical to just drop the inv_id field for that table and then recreate it and figure out how to automatically repopulate it as an auto incrementing primary key?

BTW, for some reason the inv_id is no longer a primary key. I’m not sure how that happened unless it was when I was merging an old backed-up table with a new one… Anyway, any advice and/or warnings about potential gotchas would be greatly appreciated.

Since there are duplicate inv_id’s, I wouldn’t recommend you to make it primary key just yet. If the inv_id’s are supposed to be just an auto_increment, you do something like this (although I’d change the last queries to be ALTER TABLE table AUTO_INCREMENT = 1;).

Else, you can modify it by hand.

Always be careful when renumbering a column: Double check if this column is used anywhere else in the database as reference. If so, it’s better to renumber manually.

There might be other things I’m missing.

273 Ming  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 8:51:39pm

re: #118 Killgore Trout

I don’t think forcing your morality on others is a good idea. It was a private event held in a private business. Forcing them to refrain from offending you behind closed doors is an unhealthy mentality.

Well, um, how “private” was it? We all know about it. How did it get on the Internet? Here’s a trick question for you: do you think the people who participated in this event wanted it to be private?

274 CuriousLurker  Wed, Mar 19, 2014 9:10:37pm

re: #272 andres

Since there are duplicate inv_id’s, I wouldn’t recommend you to make it primary key just yet. If the inv_id’s are supposed to be just an auto_increment, you do something like this (although I’d change the last queries to be ALTER TABLE table AUTO_INCREMENT = 1;).

Else, you can modify it by hand.

Always be careful when renumbering a column: Double check if this column is used anywhere else in the database as reference. If so, it’s better to renumber manually.

There might be other things I’m missing.

Thanks! I successfully added a new column using:

ALTER TABLE inventory ADD id INT NOT NULL AUTO_INCREMENT FIRST, ADD PRIMARY KEY (id), AUTO_INCREMENT=1

It worked exactly as I wanted it to, so I’ve got that part down. I figure once I get everything cleaned up, then I can either drop inv_id and rename id to the same, or drop both and have a nice new freshly numbered table.

At the moment I’m working through the example RBS gave me in his #231, trying to understand everything. I’ve got:

SELECT i1.inv_id, i1.cust_name, i1.exp_date, i2.inv_id, i2.cust_name, i2.exp_date
FROM inventory as i1
JOIN inventory as i2
ON i1.cust_name = i2.cust_name
AND i1.exp_date < i2.exp_date

I’m gonna test it out before I go to bed and see what happens.

275 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Thu, Mar 20, 2014 3:36:20am

re: #270 NJDhockeyfan

I thought that too but some experts are saying Iran will have a bomb in as little as 2 months. Israel will strike with or without our help.

They’ve been six months to a year away from a bomb for decades.


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