Blogger Chuck C. Johnson Hypes White Nationalist Website - Again

Crowing about being defended by racists
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Chuck C. Johnson posing with his best friend

You may recall this LGF post from a couple of weeks ago, in which we called out right wing smear artist Chuck C. Johnson (most recently infamous for alleging — with no evidence — that Ferguson teenager Michael Brown had been involved in a second degree murder while a juvenile) for linking to a really nasty homophobic article at racist website Takimag: Blogger Chuck C. Johnson Hypes Ugly Anti-Gay Article at White Nationalist Website.

When it was pointed out to him that Takimag is an overtly racist site, with a list of absolutely horrible white nationalist and antisemitic contributors, he responded by saying he was just “exploring different ideas.”

Well, he seems to have decided now that he likes those “different ideas,” because today he’s crowing about an article at Takimag that defends him against people who criticized him for his disgusting comments about beheaded journalist James Foley:

Maybe it’s just me, but it doesn’t seem very smart to boast that white nationalists and far right racists think you’re groovy.

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233 comments
1 Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2014 10:36:24am
2 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 10:38:45am

*sigh*

3 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 19, 2014 10:39:30am

Hey, don’t smear him, he’s a ginger nationalist.

4 GeneJockey  Sep 19, 2014 10:39:51am

re: #2 FemNaziBitch

*sigh*

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False dichotomy.
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5 Bulworth  Sep 19, 2014 10:40:41am
defends yours truly from the Twitter lynch mob

I see. When you say something dumb and vile and people call you on it, that’s called a ‘Twitter lynch mob’.

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6 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 19, 2014 10:41:15am

re: #5 Bulworth

I see. When you say something dumb and vile and people call you on it, that’s called a ‘Twitter lynch mob’.

//

Off to the Twitter GULAG with him.

7 lawhawk  Sep 19, 2014 10:42:20am

Exploring different ideas my ass.

CCJ is a racist.

Takes refuge behind other racists. Then deflects attention by claiming that anyone who points out he’s a racist is themselves a racist (and let it be noted that shortly after that tweet above that Charles posted, CCJ muted me).

Because he couldn’t handle being exposed as a smear merchant, liar, and racist.

CCJ still hasn’t retracted any of his claims about Michael Brown being involved in a murder. He’s still exploring that idea too.

8 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 10:45:35am

Back during FDR’s administration, they tried to pass a Federal Anti-Lynching Law.

Southern States claimed “states-rights”.

9 wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2014 10:47:25am

From Chuck’s Sept. 2 tweet:

It’s so boring and tried.

The new journamalism.

10 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 19, 2014 10:48:18am

re: #7 lawhawk

Exploring different ideas my ass.

CCJ is a racist.

Takes refuge behind other racists. Then deflects attention by claiming that anyone who points out he’s a racist is themselves a racist (and let it be noted that shortly after that tweet above that Charles posted, CCJ muted me).

Because he couldn’t handle being exposed as a smear merchant, liar, and racist.

CCJ still hasn’t retracted any of his claims about Michael Brown being involved in a murder. He’s still exploring that idea too.

HURR HURR YOUR TEH INTOLERENTS!!!1!!!!!!11!

11 A Mom Anon  Sep 19, 2014 10:49:07am

re: #2 FemNaziBitch

I’m going to go with both, for the win! Sigh.

We’re having people over for dinner this weekend, one of whom is a wingnut of rather epic proportions. I just found out he’s a birther too. Damn it. If he starts on the whole “certificate of live birth” crap, I’m ready for him. My BC, my son’s and my daughter’s all say that right on top. My husband’s says something like “birth registration notice”. I have copies of all of them in my kitchen office.

I’m hoping we can keep the politics out of it, because outside of this, he’s a really funny person, a blast to hang out with. Perhaps the power of the Lasagna and Tiramisu shall tame the madness. We shall see.

12 Timothy Watson  Sep 19, 2014 10:49:36am

re: #6 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Off to the Twitter GULAG with him.

#twittergulaghazi!

13 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 10:50:24am

re: #10 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR YOUR TEH INTOLERENTS!!!1!!!!!!11!

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You’re being intolerant of my intolerance, you bigot. Despite what conservatives believes about liberals, we are willing to give you the benefit of the doubt but when you start scapegoating entire groups, yep we’re going to call you a bigot because guess what that’s what bigots get called. Conservatives are such whiny children when it comes to have their bigotry called out. Sorry assholes you don’t get to corner the market on hate and then cry like babies when you’re called out on it. That’s not how life works.

14 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 19, 2014 10:54:06am

1. Gather a lot of really sick ideas in one place.

2. Call it a political philosophy.

3. Pretend all political philosophies are equally legitimate.

4. Act outraged and victimized if someone dismisses your whole philosophy as bigoted.

15 GeneJockey  Sep 19, 2014 10:54:06am

re: #11 A Mom Anon

I’m going to go with both, for the win! Sigh.

We’re having people over for dinner this weekend, one of whom is a wingnut of rather epic proportions. I just found out he’s a birther too. Damn it. If he starts on the whole “certificate of live birth” crap, I’m ready for him. My BC, my son’s and my daughter’s all say that right on top. My husband’s says something like “birth registration notice”. I have copies of all of them in my kitchen office.

I’m hoping we can keep the politics out of it, because outside of this, he’s a really funny person, a blast to hang out with. Perhaps the power of the Lasagna and Tiramisu shall tame the madness. We shall see.

The older boy’s girlfriend comes from a VERY conservative family - so much so that she has not yet introduced him to them. If this goes on, and they eventually tie the knot, I foresee a really tense set of social events around the wedding. The older boy is not good at holding stuff in, and has that Aspergerian difficulty understanding the failure of others to see what he finds so obvious.

I wouldn’t want to be him at Thanksgivings with her family!

17 Gus  Sep 19, 2014 10:54:36am

I’m old enough to remember when conservatives treated Takimag like the plague due to the antisemitism there.

18 wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2014 10:56:15am

re: #11 A Mom Anon

I’m going to go with both, for the win! Sigh.

We’re having people over for dinner this weekend, one of whom is a wingnut of rather epic proportions. I just found out he’s a birther too. Damn it. If he starts on the whole “certificate of live birth” crap, I’m ready for him. My BC, my son’s and my daughter’s all say that right on top. My husband’s says something like “birth registration notice”. I have copies of all of them in my kitchen office.

I’m hoping we can keep the politics out of it, because outside of this, he’s a really funny person, a blast to hang out with. Perhaps the power of the Lasagna and Tiramisu shall tame the madness. We shall see.

I’d switch parties for Tiramisu. For a night.

19 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 10:57:26am

re: #11 A Mom Anon

I’m going to go with both, for the win! Sigh.

We’re having people over for dinner this weekend, one of whom is a wingnut of rather epic proportions. I just found out he’s a birther too. Damn it. If he starts on the whole “certificate of live birth” crap, I’m ready for him. My BC, my son’s and my daughter’s all say that right on top. My husband’s says something like “birth registration notice”. I have copies of all of them in my kitchen office.

I’m hoping we can keep the politics out of it, because outside of this, he’s a really funny person, a blast to hang out with. Perhaps the power of the Lasagna and Tiramisu shall tame the madness. We shall see.

eh, just start agreeing with him and share all the conspiracy theories you also *believe* in —make some up for entertainment.

The Consortium for the Liberation of Grass! Individual Blades have been opressed too long!

20 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 19, 2014 10:57:27am

All I can say is that

THIS

Looks totally like

THIS

One is an empty headed dummy that simply acts as a mouthpiece without original thoughts of his own. The other is Howdy Doody.

RBS
ps. Permission granted to tweet it out if desired.

21 Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2014 10:57:47am

re: #17 Gus

I’m old enough to remember when conservatives treated Takimag like the plague due to the antisemitism there.

Nowadays, conservatives increasingly see nothing wrong with Takimag. White supremacism is really coming out into the open in the conservative movement. Absolutely nobody on the right is speaking out against this stuff. They just keep promoting people like Hoft and Johnson even though they’re completely open about their affinity for white supremacists now.

22 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 10:57:56am

re: #18 wrenchwench

I’d switch parties for Tiramisu. For a night.

As long as it isn’t the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November.

23 wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2014 10:58:21am

McInnes is disgusting, even when writing about being a dad.

24 wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2014 10:58:55am

re: #22 FemNaziBitch

As long as it isn’t the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November.

I’ll vote in the morning.

25 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 19, 2014 10:59:01am

Welp, I just got Tweeted by a self-described “UniteBlue” liberal who retweets David Icke.

Meet my Block button, bitch.

26 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 10:59:20am

re: #20 RealityBasedSteve

I think he has more the look of an evil leprechaun.

27 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 10:59:33am

re: #21 Charles Johnson

Nowadays, conservatives increasingly see nothing wrong with Takimag. White supremacism is really coming out into the open in the conservative movement. Absolutely nobody on the right is speaking out against this stuff. They just keep promoting people like Hoft and Johnson even though they’re completely open about their affinity for white supremacists now.

Doesn’t help that you have “intellectual conservative” mags like NR that happily employ white nationalists for them. Conservatives and conservatism needs to some deep soul searching about their ideology and what it will mean to be a conservative in the 21st century. I am not one who thinks that conservatism is an ideology that will die out and it’s exactly because of that, that I want them fixing their bugs now rather than running away from it and crying about the mean old left calling them racists.

28 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 11:00:20am

re: #21 Charles Johnson

Nowadays, conservatives increasingly see nothing wrong with Takimag. White supremacism is really coming out into the open in the conservative movement. Absolutely nobody on the right is speaking out against this stuff. They just keep promoting people like Hoft and Johnson even though they’re completely open about their affinity for white supremacists now.

That was pre-2008 —right?

29 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 11:00:29am

re: #26 FemNaziBitch

I think he has more the look of an evil leprechaun.

The Warwick Davis leprechaun from the movies of the same titled combined with Chucky from Child’s Play. Except he’s not as witty as either.

30 Shazam  Sep 19, 2014 11:00:40am

How can a party with so much open contempt for women, blacks and hispanics win any national elections?

31 makeitstop  Sep 19, 2014 11:00:43am

re: #20 RealityBasedSteve

All I can say is that

THIS
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Looks totally like

THIS

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One is an empty headed dummy that simply acts as a mouthpiece without original thoughts of his own. The other is Howdy Doody.

RBS

Needs moar eyebrowz…

Google me prick!

32 Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2014 11:01:20am

Here’s an earlier article at Takimag by Gavin McInnes, the guy who’s defending Chuck:

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It’s a Google cache link, and if you click it you’ll see why.

33 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 19, 2014 11:01:50am

re: #31 makeitstop

Needs moar eyebrowz…

Google me prick!

Holy shit! Put that thing in spoiler tags. I’m going to have nightmares now.

34 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 11:02:09am

re: #30 Shazam

How can a party with so much open contempt for women, blacks and hispanics win any national elections?

One word, taxes. Seriously the fuckers have been using this for years to get people to vote against their better social and economic interests because of bullshit about tax and spend liberalism.

35 wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2014 11:02:45am

re: #32 Charles Johnson

Here’s an earlier article at Takimag by Gavin McInnes, the guy who’s defending Chuck:

webcache.googleusercontent.com

It’s a Google cache link, and if you click it you’ll see why.

I have to wash my mouse just from hovering over the cache link.

36 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 11:02:49am
37 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 11:03:27am
38 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 11:03:27am

FDR did have it right though when he described a conservative as a man with two perfectly good feet who never has learned to walk forward. That’s conservatism in a nutshell. It was true when FDR combated them in the 30’s and it’s true now.

39 Eventual Carrion  Sep 19, 2014 11:03:56am
40 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 19, 2014 11:04:04am

re: #34 HappyWarrior

One word, taxes. Seriously the fuckers have been using this for years to get people to vote against their better social and economic interests because of bullshit about tax and spend liberalism.

THIS.

41 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 19, 2014 11:04:18am

So Michael Fassbender is going to play Desmond Miles in the Assassins Creed movie. Not sure how I feel about that.

42 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Sep 19, 2014 11:06:29am

re: #34 HappyWarrior

One word, taxes. Seriously the fuckers have been using this for years to get people to vote against their better social and economic interests because of bullshit about tax and spend liberalism.

Yup. They’ve screamed that lowering taxes (a nebulous concept) means lowering your taxes but the reality it means lowering the taxes on corporations, rich people and moneyed interests who, more than likely, will never share that wealth with their employees.

43 allegro  Sep 19, 2014 11:06:51am

re: #30 Shazam

How can a party with so much open contempt for women, blacks and hispanics win any national elections?

Cheating.

44 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 11:07:03am

re: #40 Pie-onist Overlord

THIS.

It’s how they got the white working class in the 60’s. Hurr hurr LBJ is spending YOUR TAX dollars to help black people. And it sadly did work. It was pointed out by another lizard that Americans were just fine with the welfare state until 1960’s liberals decided you know these programs should benefit everyone black or white and the resentment that a black family may get the same social security or medicare benefits as white people is exactly what Nixon and later Reagan used. I have zero respect for either man because of the way they exploited racial intolerance to gain higher office. They can talk about what LBJ said in private all they want but at least LBJ wasn’t a race baiting asshole like Nixon and Ronnie were.

45 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 11:07:10am

Cuteness helps

46 wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2014 11:07:24am

re: #39 Eventual Carrion

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I just doubled your following.

47 WhatEVs  Sep 19, 2014 11:07:30am

re: #11 A Mom Anon

You have more patience than I.

If rather be alone. (But I’m an asshole about this stuff. I’m completely fed up and don’t feel any need to play nice.)

48 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 19, 2014 11:08:57am

re: #42 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Yup. They’ve screamed that lowering taxes (a nebulous concept) means lowering your taxes but the reality it means lowering the taxes on corporations, rich people and moneyed interests who, more than likely, will never share that wealth with their employees.

Last night I had a “conversation” with a stupid shmuck @gopthinking

So much Teh Stupids. These people are fucked up.

49 GeneJockey  Sep 19, 2014 11:09:11am

re: #34 HappyWarrior

One word, taxes. Seriously the fuckers have been using this for years to get people to vote against their better social and economic interests because of bullshit about tax and spend liberalism.

Just consider how many people in America would respond to the idea of welfare paying more than a minimum wage job, not by increasing minimum wage, but rather by cutting welfare.

50 A Mom Anon  Sep 19, 2014 11:09:45am

re: #23 wrenchwench

Nice. You know, I get so fucking sick of hearing guys bitch about how restraining family life is. If you didn’t want to ever have to answer to anybody about anything or change your super awesome lifestyle, then why in the fuck did you get married and then have kids? And I’d almost bet, that he was the one who proposed to her. (maybe not, but even so, he could have said nope)

Men who act like their wives are an obstacle to their fun are not going to be great partners. There goes your sex life and any other thing, because even if he never says it to her face I can guarantee it he acts like he deserves a fucking trophy and a blow job just for doing what he’s supposed to as a husband and a father. IF he manages to do a blessed thing beyond what he deems as fun. Guys like this piss me off, my husband used to work with a whole flock of the fucking assholes.

51 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 11:10:17am

The Church of Football

52 WhatEVs  Sep 19, 2014 11:11:27am

re: #18 wrenchwench

I’d switch parties for Tiramisu. For a night.

I’ve been told I make the best tiramisu on the planet. I’ll bring you back if you’re ever tempted by the dark side.

53 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 11:13:43am

re: #50 A Mom Anon

Nice. You know, I get so fucking sick of hearing guys bitch about how restraining family life is. If you didn’t want to ever have to answer to anybody about anything or change your super awesome lifestyle, then why in the fuck did you get married and then have kids? And I’d almost bet, that he was the one who proposed to her. (maybe not, but even so, he could have said nope)

Men who act like their wives are an obstacle to their fun are not going to be great partners. There goes your sex life and any other thing, because even if he never says it to her face I can guarantee it he acts like he deserves a fucking trophy and a blow job just for doing what he’s supposed to as a husband and a father. IF he manages to do a blessed thing beyond what he deems as fun. Guys like this piss me off, my husband used to work with a whole flock of the fucking assholes.

He’s a typical male conservative. Acts like he’s entitled something because he’s a guy. Elliott Rodger like mentality to be brutally frank about it.

54 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 19, 2014 11:13:50am

re: #49 GeneJockey

Just consider how many people in America would respond to the idea of welfare paying more than a minimum wage job, not by increasing minimum wage, but rather by cutting welfare.

That’s pretty much all that some people on #tcot ever Tweet about
HURR HURR WELFARE PAYS MOAR THEN A JRB!!!11!!
HURR HURR MOAR PEOPLE IS ON TEH FOOD STAMPS THEN IS GOT A JRRB!!!1!!!!
HURR HURR TEH YOONYUNZ!!!111!!!
HURR HURR TEH POORS IS TEH LAZYS & TEH RICHS IS TEH HARDEST WORKERS!!!1!!!!!

55 Bulworth  Sep 19, 2014 11:14:03am

re:
#47

If rather be alone. (But I’m an asshole about this stuff. I’m completely fed up and don’t feel any need to play nice.)

Yeah, especially on a Friday night, which for me is sacred time.
Me and my pizza and my cats.

56 lawhawk  Sep 19, 2014 11:15:01am

Technically, the House GOP hasn’t worked since 2009.

57 Bulworth  Sep 19, 2014 11:15:22am

re:
#46
#39

I just threw in a follow….

58 A Mom Anon  Sep 19, 2014 11:16:16am

re: #52 WhatEVs

My tiramisu is a bit unconventional. The recipe is the same basic one, but instead of Marsala or a sweet wine, I use Irish Crème liqueur. It works really well with the coffee and dark chocolate. And I use a tiramisu flavored coffee, brewed really strong instead of the expresso. Never had leftovers, so I figured I must be doing something right.

59 ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2014 11:16:25am

So, is everyone going to tune in and watch what could possibly be one of the most important political speeches we could hear this year?

Yes, at 3:00 PM Eastern Time, one NFL commissioner Roger Goodell will be dancing on the head of a pin trying to explain the NFL’s position on what the hell the players, the team owners and he are doing to try to restore credibility to a league that has been hammered over the last few weeks.

I’m thinking he will give some kind of a state-of the-league address and then book outta the room trying to take very few questions…or he will have some softballers in the room to lob him some easy ones.

60 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 11:16:26am

IT’S Obama’s fault Scotland didn’t vote for independence?

I saw a tweet to to that effect,then lost it.

61 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 19, 2014 11:17:22am

re: #58 A Mom Anon

My tiramisu is a bit unconventional. The recipe is the same basic one, but instead of Marsala or a sweet wine, I use Irish Crème liqueur. It works really well with the coffee and dark chocolate. And I use a tiramisu flavored coffee, brewed really strong instead of the expresso. Never had leftovers, so I figured I must be doing something right.

Please put a photo & recipe in the pages

62 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 11:17:36am

re: #60 FemNaziBitch

IT’S Obama’s fault Scotland didn’t vote for independence?

I saw a tweet to to that effect,then lost it.

Of course. Just as if it had passed, Scottish independence occuring would be his fault. Obama: It’s all his fault.

63 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 19, 2014 11:17:53am

re: #2 FemNaziBitch

*sigh*

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Both.

And understand that the easiest way to understand the right wing in America is this - drunk _AND_ stupid.

64 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 19, 2014 11:18:06am

I blocked @gopthinking but his time line is a Mt. Everest of Derp

65 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 11:18:20am

re: #58 A Mom Anon

My tiramisu is a bit unconventional. The recipe is the same basic one, but instead of Marsala or a sweet wine, I use Irish Crème liqueur. It works really well with the coffee and dark chocolate. And I use a tiramisu flavored coffee, brewed really strong instead of the expresso. Never had leftovers, so I figured I must be doing something right.

That sounds delish.

66 Amory Blaine  Sep 19, 2014 11:19:22am

re: #58 A Mom Anon

If there are no leftovers, I fear you may be dangerously underfeeding those in your charge. Double up please. For them.

67 A Mom Anon  Sep 19, 2014 11:20:00am

re: #61 Pie-onist Overlord

It might take me a day or two. Dinner is Sat, so when I get it made I’ll post it.

68 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 11:20:34am
69 allegro  Sep 19, 2014 11:21:03am

re: #47 WhatEVs

You have more patience than I.

If rather be alone. (But I’m an asshole about this stuff. I’m completely fed up and don’t feel any need to play nice.)

I have some dear conservative friends with whom I can share a bottle of wine and talk politics all night. Where I get frustrated with them is when they decry what’s become of the Republican party, hate the Tea Party fucknoodles but STILL vote Republican. I just can’t understand that when they readily admit the damage that has been done and continues to be done in their name.

The dimwits with the violent guns and god and Libruls Must Die bumper stickers, etc. are a whole ‘nother thing. That level of stupidity I can’t even deal with. Got a new one here at the park who keeps trying to befriend me - I’m thinking she wants more than a platonic friendship (which I have no interest in pursuing) and it entirely creeps me out. Not because of her presumed sexuality but because she projects a very violent nature. And she’s an idiot.

70 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 11:21:22am

re: #68 FemNaziBitch

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lol.

71 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 19, 2014 11:22:18am

re: #68 FemNaziBitch

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How come I’m getting Harvested? I didn’t get a vote. /pout

RBS

72 GeneJockey  Sep 19, 2014 11:22:19am

re: #69 allegro

I have some dear conservative friends with whom I can share a bottle of wine and talk politics all night. Where I get frustrated with them is when they decry what’s become of the Republican party, hate the Tea Party fucknoodles but STILL vote Republican. I just can’t understand that when they readily admit the damage that has been done and continues to be done in their name.

The dimwits with the violent guns and god and Libruls Must Die bumper stickers, etc. are a whole ‘nother thing. That level of stupidity I can’t even deal with. Got a new one here at the park who keeps trying to befriend me - I’m thinking she wants more than a platonic friendship (which I have no interest in pursuing) and it entirely creeps me out. Not because of her presumed sexuality but because she projects a very violent nature. And she’s an idiot.

Sounds like a winning combo!
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73 WhatEVs  Sep 19, 2014 11:22:27am

re: #34 HappyWarrior

One word, taxes. Seriously the fuckers have been using this for years to get people to vote against their better social and economic interests because of bullshit about tax and spend liberalism.

The best (meaning most ironic) part is most of their taxes will go up. Taxes at the very highest, highest and next highest will be radically reduced, while everyone else…nope. No soup for you!

74 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 11:23:32am
75 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 11:23:40am

re: #69 allegro

I have some dear conservative friends with whom I can share a bottle of wine and talk politics all night. Where I get frustrated with them is when they decry what’s become of the Republican party, hate the Tea Party fucknoodles but STILL vote Republican. I just can’t understand that when they readily admit the damage that has been done and continues to be done in their name.

The dimwits with the violent guns and god and Libruls Must Die bumper stickers, etc. are a whole ‘nother thing. That level of stupidity I can’t even deal with. Got a new one here at the park who keeps trying to befriend me - I’m thinking she wants more than a platonic friendship (which I have no interest in pursuing) and it entirely creeps me out. Not because of her presumed sexuality but because she projects a very violent nature. And she’s an idiot.

Yeah I just don’t get that line of thinking. Why stay loyal to a party that has no respect for your values. You don’t like Obama, fine, but continuing to vote for the GOP and support GOP candidates even though you know they’re off their rocker? I don’t get it. But yeah the people with a pathological hatred for all things liberals I don’t even try to deal with it reasonably. You can’t deal with someone reasonable who thinks that because you’re a liberal it means you’re closer to Stalin on the political spectrum than Washington.

76 WhatEVs  Sep 19, 2014 11:23:56am

re: #45 FemNaziBitch

Cuteness helps

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Awwwwwwww!! Puppies!!

77 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 11:24:11am

WTF!

78 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 11:24:42am

re: #71 RealityBasedSteve

How come I’m getting Harvested? I didn’t get a vote. /pout

RBS

RED MEAT

79 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 11:25:03am

re: #74 FemNaziBitch

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He’s been making a big stand on this. I admire that man very much. I just wish he were 10 or even 5 years younger so he would be more viable as presidential candidate material because I really think Joe would make a damned good president. Yes, he sticks his foot in his mouth sometimes but I’d be happy to call him my president.

80 GeneJockey  Sep 19, 2014 11:25:07am

re: #73 WhatEVs

The best (meaning most ironic) part is most of their taxes will go up. Taxes at the very highest, highest and next highest will be radically reduced, while everyone else…nope. No soup for you!

I was explaining this to the older boy’s GF last night, about the changeover from valuing WORK to valuing WEALTH, and how our tax structures were rejiggered to reward wealthy people for being wealthy with more wealth, because a certain percent of Americans who will never be wealthy worship wealthy and the wealthy.

81 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 11:25:32am

re: #77 FemNaziBitch

WTF!

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This isn’t sedition how Alan? Oh wait you’re a conservative. It’s “different” right?

82 b.d.  Sep 19, 2014 11:25:37am

THEY ARRESTED 4 TERRORISTS ON THE BORDER!!!!
Who are they? Where are they from? What terrorism are they wanted for? Who caught them? Where did they catch them? When is the arraignment?

83 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 19, 2014 11:26:37am

re: #68 FemNaziBitch

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That is why God invented the .460 S&W Magnum…

84 Amory Blaine  Sep 19, 2014 11:27:21am

I like to do a Gish gallop (only with strings of facts) on my wingnut guests. Greased by their wine donation.

85 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 11:27:22am

By the way for those of you watching the Roosevelts. My username is somewhat of a tribute to Al Smith. I appreciate his contribution to Irish-Americans and Catholics in American politics and being a wet when it was very unpopular to do so but it’s more a tribute to Herbert Humphrey who in his own words urged the Democratic Party to leave the sunshine of states rights and enter the sunshine of human rights at the 1948 DNC. So yeah. Al Smith is still an interesting guy though he did become very bitter towards FDR.

86 lawhawk  Sep 19, 2014 11:27:27am

re: #68 FemNaziBitch

Youtube Video

87 GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 19, 2014 11:27:54am
88 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 19, 2014 11:29:08am
89 GeneJockey  Sep 19, 2014 11:29:37am

re: #81 HappyWarrior

This isn’t sedition how Alan? Oh wait you’re a conservative. It’s “different” right?

My wingnut cousin from West Virginia ‘liked’ a post on Facebook which lauded members of the military for openly defying the President of the United States.

Think about that for a moment. They hate the President SO MUCH that they want the Military to disobey their leaders, if not take over outright.

There’s a name for countries where that happens. “Military Dictatorships”. Not ‘Democracy’. Not ‘Republic’.

This is how bad it’s gotten, and how crazy they are.

90 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 11:30:18am
91 Dr Lizardo  Sep 19, 2014 11:30:26am

re: #89 GeneJockey

My wingnut cousin from West Virginia ‘liked’ a post on Facebook which lauded members of the military for openly defying the President of the United States.

Think about that for a moment. They hate the President SO MUCH that they want the Military to disobey their leaders, if not take over outright.

There’s a name for countries where that happens. “Military Dictatorships”. Not ‘Democracy’. Not ‘Republic’.

This is how bad it’s gotten, and how crazy they are.

You’re talking about a bunch of people who admire Augusto Pinochet.

Enough said.

92 aagcobb  Sep 19, 2014 11:30:47am

re: #30 Shazam

How can a party with so much open contempt for women, blacks and hispanics win any national elections?

Answer is they can’t.

93 WhatEVs  Sep 19, 2014 11:31:04am

re: #69 allegro

That’s the problem; voting for a fantasy or a wish for what was (your granddaddy’s GOP), coz it ain’t no more. Voting GOP now is supporting what they supposedly don’t like.

As for the woman…sounds like a rational move to me.

94 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 11:31:18am

re: #89 GeneJockey

My wingnut cousin from West Virginia ‘liked’ a post on Facebook which lauded members of the military for openly defying the President of the United States.

Think about that for a moment. They hate the President SO MUCH that they want the Military to disobey their leaders, if not take over outright.

There’s a name for countries where that happens. “Military Dictatorships”. Not ‘Democracy’. Not ‘Republic’.

This is how bad it’s gotten, and how crazy they are.

It really has gotten crazy and I see no end to it. Obama could resign tomorrow. Hell Boehner could become president and I think the only thing that would satisfy them would be a Charles I/Louie XVI style show trial that results in Obama being beheaded publicly. And even then I doubt they’d be satisfied.

95 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 19, 2014 11:31:26am

re: #91 Dr Lizardo

You’re talking about a bunch of people who admire Augusto Pinochet.

Enough said.

True Statement…. Sadly

RBS

96 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 19, 2014 11:31:41am

re: #89 GeneJockey

My wingnut cousin from West Virginia ‘liked’ a post on Facebook which lauded members of the military for openly defying the President of the United States.

Think about that for a moment. They hate the President SO MUCH that they want the Military to disobey their leaders, if not take over outright.

There’s a name for countries where that happens. “Military Dictatorships”. Not ‘Democracy’. Not ‘Republic’.

This is how bad it’s gotten, and how crazy they are.

How’d that work out for them in the 1860’s?

97 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 11:31:59am

re: #91 Dr Lizardo

You’re talking about a bunch of people who admire Augusto Pinochet.

Enough said.

Yep admire the actual dictator Pinochet but think Obama is a tyrant. Wingnut logic how the fuck does it work?

98 Lumberhead  Sep 19, 2014 11:32:14am

re: #50 A Mom Anon

And I’d almost bet, that he was the one who proposed to her.

This is exactly why I’ve never cheated on my wife. I asked her to marry me. Why then would I then fool around behind her back? If you want to keep dating, don’t get married. Pretty simple to me.

99 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 19, 2014 11:32:49am

re: #91 Dr Lizardo

You’re talking about a bunch of people who admire Augusto Pinochet.

Enough said.

None of them like to admit that Franco, Pinochet, Reagan and Thatcher are all sharing the same cell in hell and are looking forward to when Cheney joins them.

100 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 11:32:58am

re: #98 Lumberhead

This is exactly why I’ve never cheated on my wife. I asked her to marry me. Why then would I then fool around behind her back? If you want to keep dating, don’t get married. Pretty simple to me.

Simple but good way of looking at it.

101 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 11:33:45am

re: #99 William Barnett-Lewis

None of them like to admit that Franco, Pinochet, Reagan and Thatcher are all sharing the same cell in hell and are looking forward to when Cheney joins them.

I hear Ronnie likes to cheat at poker.

102 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 19, 2014 11:34:07am

Koch Brothers get gullible rubes to work for them for free:

103 GeneJockey  Sep 19, 2014 11:34:19am

re: #91 Dr Lizardo

You’re talking about a bunch of people who admire Augusto Pinochet.

Enough said.

Hmmmm. That’s more of an older Conservative thing. I bet most of them don’t even know who Pinochet was. Most of them probably can’t tell Chile from Mexico, and it’s all brown people anyway.

104 b.d.  Sep 19, 2014 11:34:36am

re: #101 HappyWarrior

I hear Ronnie likes to cheat at poker.

and you always have to remind him that it’s his turn.

105 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 11:34:43am

re: #92 aagcobb

Answer is they can’t.

The put profit ahead of human rights, with greed or the misquided belief that profits are necessary for human rights.

human rights cost money

106 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 19, 2014 11:36:19am

re: #105 FemNaziBitch

The put profit ahead of human rights, with greed or the misquided belief that profits are necessary for human rights.

human rights cost money

Just ask United Fruit. Those cheap bananas don’t pick themselves.

RBS

107 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 11:36:43am

Anti-communism should never be mistaken for anti-authoritarian. That’s not to say anti-communism is all bad but I would never ever think highly of someone just because they were anti-communist. Unfortunately, that’s exactly how we got fascism in Europe and South America.

108 GeneJockey  Sep 19, 2014 11:37:07am

re: #105 FemNaziBitch

The put profit ahead of human rights, with greed or the misquided belief that profits are necessary for human rights.

FTFY. Seriously, for some of them, their definition of freedom is just Capitalism.

Oh, and gunz.

109 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 19, 2014 11:37:28am

HURR HURR!!!! HELP TEH KOCH BROTHERS PROTECT INHERITED MONEYS OF MOAR THEN $5 MILLION WHICH NONE OF U SUCKERS WILL EVER SEE!!!!!!!

110 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 11:37:42am

re: #108 GeneJockey

FTFY. Seriously, for some of them, their definition of freedom is just Capitalism.

Oh, and gunz.

Their idea of capitalism.

111 Lidane  Sep 19, 2014 11:38:04am

Wheee!

C-FAM Blogger Wonders ‘Which Camp To Choose’ Between Ukraine-Invading Putin And Sodomy-Promoting Obama

Definitely, we are living in strange times. Pro-lifers and defenders of marriage and family meet at a conference in Moscow, hosted by two men with close links not only to the Russian Orthodox Church, but also to Russian President (and former KGB-boss) Vladimir Putin just at a time when the latter is waging a war of aggression against neighbouring Ukraine (not to mention the very similar wars he has waged against Georgia and Moldova and, domestically, against the Chechens…). At the same time Barack Obama, supposedly the leader of the most powerful democratic country in the world, is not only the one of the world’s most active advocates of violence against unborn children, but also uses all the powers of his office to wage a full-fledged war, domestically and world-wide, against marriage and the family - which are the very fundaments of any democratic society. And we, perplexed, do not know which camp to choose.

112 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 11:38:42am

re: #98 Lumberhead

This is exactly why I’ve never cheated on my wife. I asked her to marry me. Why then would I then fool around behind her back? If you want to keep dating, don’t get married. Pretty simple to me.

I think that as well.

BUT, I had a lot of fun BEFORE I got married. I learned about myself, people in general and figured-out a few things. Like —marry someone you think you can actually live-with for decades.

The Whackos that advocate abstinence until marriage and a quiver-full of babies —well, I just think it’s a realistic way to live.

113 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 19, 2014 11:39:55am

re: #109 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR!!!! HELP TEH KOCH BROTHERS PROTECT INHERITED MONEYS OF MOAR THEN $5 MILLION WHICH NONE OF U SUCKERS WILL EVER SEE!!!!!!!

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If I were president for 10 minutes and could only pass one law in that time, it would be a 100% tax on all inheritance over 1 million dollars with only an exemption for land (I’ve known a lot of land rich, cash poor farmers).

114 ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2014 11:40:01am

re: #97 HappyWarrior

Yep admire the actual dictator Pinochet but think Obama is a tyrant. Wingnut logic how the fuck does it work?

Oh, oh, oh. (Hand Up) I can answer that.

Wingnuts are racists and also have a poor knowledge of history, civics, politics and reality. And that is how they ‘work.’

115 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 11:40:37am

re: #111 Lidane

Wheee!

C-FAM Blogger Wonders ‘Which Camp To Choose’ Between Ukraine-Invading Putin And Sodomy-Promoting Obama

Never thought there would be a world where the wingnuts would wub Russia but I guess that’s power of homophobia right there. The religious right is a fucking disgrace on this country. Thanks again Ronnie for kissing their asses and bringing them into American politics you pandering hack.

116 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 11:40:53am

re: #114 ObserverArt

Oh, oh, oh. (Hand Up) I can answer that.

Wingnuts are racists and also have a poor knowledge of history, civics, politics and reality. And that is how they ‘work.’

You get a cookie.

117 allegro  Sep 19, 2014 11:41:22am

re: #72 GeneJockey

Sounds like a winning combo!
//////////////////////

Oh man, you don’t even know. She’s got two very not-friendly pit bulls, gadsden flag, violent anti-muslim and anti-liberal signs in the windows of her rig and on car bumper stickers, second amendment dares…

I think about what Maya Angelou said, paraphrased, that when people tell you who they are, believe them. I believe this woman is dangerous.

118 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 19, 2014 11:41:55am

re: #113 William Barnett-Lewis

If I were president for 10 minutes and could only pass one law in that time, it would be a 100% tax on all inheritance over 1 million dollars with only an exemption for land (I’ve known a lot of land rich, cash poor farmers).

Right now the “Death Tax” which the Kochs want to repeal, only kicks in for inheritances of over $5 million.

Why an ordinary teabagger thinks this will ever impact them, they must think they are going to win the Powerball.

119 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 11:42:34am

re: #106 RealityBasedSteve

Just ask United Fruit. Those cheap bananas don’t pick themselves.

RBS

There is a balance. We need people to make money to pay taxes. Even for the Conservatives who don’t want to pay for entitlements, they see the benefit of Early Warning systems for bad weather —etc.

IIRC, when that bad tsunami hit Thailand, the said that so many people died because the country was too poor to have good weather forecasting systems.

The disconnect is when those of us who are Sane try to point out that pooling our money for entitlements that are PREVENTATIVE is translated by the magic Whacko Babel Fish as SEX, SEX, SIN AND SEX.

120 ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2014 11:44:07am

re: #116 HappyWarrior

You get a cookie.

I was kinda hoping for a piece o’ pie. But a cookie is good. I don’t eat a lot of sweets.

121 GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 19, 2014 11:44:08am

re: #102 Pie-onist Overlord

Koch Brothers get gullible rubes to work for them for free:

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247 doors were slammed in their faces.

122 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 11:44:46am

re: #113 William Barnett-Lewis

If I were president for 10 minutes and could only pass one law in that time, it would be a 100% tax on all inheritance over 1 million dollars with only an exemption for land (I’ve known a lot of land rich, cash poor farmers).

EQUAL RIGHTS AMENDMENT!!!!!

123 GeneJockey  Sep 19, 2014 11:45:09am

re: #117 allegro

Oh man, you don’t even know. She’s got two very not-friendly pit bulls, gadsden flag, violent anti-muslim and anti-liberal signs in the windows of her rig and on car bumper stickers, second amendment dares…

I think about what Maya Angelou said, paraphrased, that when people tell you who they are, believe them. I believe this woman is dangerous.

Reminds me of the Far Side cartoon, “How Nature Says ‘Do Not Touch’”.

124 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 11:45:10am

re: #120 ObserverArt

I was kinda hoping for a piece o’ pie. But a cookie is good. I don’t eat a lot of sweets.

Depends on the cookie.

125 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 11:45:59am

re: #122 FemNaziBitch

EQUAL RIGHTS AMENDMENT!!!!!

I still cannot believe that did not pass. Got cranky Phyillis Schalfry to thank for that nonsense. I’ve never seen such a self-loathing person such as her. She may even more self-loathing than Bryan Fischer.

126 GeneJockey  Sep 19, 2014 11:47:38am

re: #120 ObserverArt

I was kinda hoping for a piece o’ pie. But a cookie is good. I don’t eat a lot of sweets.

I wish you hadn’t mentioned pie. Now I want one. A Shoo-Fly pie. A good one. Not the kind you buy at a grocery store, the one that an older Mennonite mom makes for the Fellowship Dinner at church….

127 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 19, 2014 11:48:12am

Here are all the people who are WORTHLESS MOOCHERS!!!11!!! according to Teh TCOT:

1. Unemployed people
2. Minimum wage workers
3. Union members
4. Government employees
5. Salaried professionals
6. Teachers
7. Immigrants
8. Non-whites
9. Vagina-havers
10. Non-Christians

Now here are all the MAKERS!!!!!

1. Kochs
2. Waltons
3. Romney
4. Janie Johnson

128 Eventual Carrion  Sep 19, 2014 11:48:27am

re: #46 wrenchwench

I just doubled your following.

Thanks :-)

I’ve been leading a downlow twitter life since I decided to re-up with it. I mostly joined back up just to fuck with CCJ and his ilk.

129 GeneJockey  Sep 19, 2014 11:49:10am

re: #125 HappyWarrior

I still cannot believe that did not pass. Got cranky Phyillis Schalfry to thank for that nonsense. I’ve never seen such a self-loathing person such as her. She may even more self-loathing than Bryan Fischer.

Yeah, but if it had passed, we couldn’t have separate men’s and women’s bathrooms!
//
I can’t believe people bought that shit.

130 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 11:49:51am

re: #82 b.d.

THEY ARRESTED 4 TERRORISTS ON THE BORDER!!!!
Who are they? Where are they from? What terrorism are they wanted for? Who caught them? Where did they catch them? When is the arraignment?

need to dig out the facts that the inmates in Supermax are mostly young men —White Supremacists and Jihadists —both tools of Fundamentalists Religious Puppet-masters.

Whackos want to push the anti-Islam agenda —the BIG threat is from without. They ignore the Sovereign Citizens, the Anti-Abortion Terrorists and so much more that IS happening within our borders.

“America will fall from within” —can’t remember who said that.

131 A Mom Anon  Sep 19, 2014 11:50:10am

I hope I wrote this recipe out so it’s understandable. I don’t measure anything out really, I just go by what looks right to me. Taste as you go is my best advice and adjust to your liking. It’s really good though.

Tiramisu with a Twist

132 Lumberhead  Sep 19, 2014 11:50:16am

re: #112 FemNaziBitch

I think that as well.

BUT, I had a lot of fun BEFORE I got married. I learned about myself, people in general and figured-out a few things. Like —marry someone you think you can actually live-with for decades.

The Whackos that advocate abstinence until marriage and a quiver-full of babies —well, I just think it’s a realistic way to live.

I have to admit that I did get very lucky. We got married relatively young by today’s standards but we had dated for a couple of years.
I always liked the line in the original Rocky movie (not exact) - “We fill gaps. I’ve got gaps. She’s got gaps. Together we fill gaps”.
27 years and 3 kids later we’re still together and going strong

133 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 19, 2014 11:50:32am

re: #125 HappyWarrior

I still cannot believe that did not pass. Got cranky Phyillis Schalfry to thank for that nonsense. I’ve never seen such a self-loathing person such as her. She may even more self-loathing than Bryan Fischer.

She and Bryan are not self-loathing at all. They LOVE themselves. It’s all those other human beings that they hate.

134 GeneJockey  Sep 19, 2014 11:51:28am

re: #127 Pie-onist Overlord

Here are all the people who are WORTHLESS MOOCHERS!!!11!!! according to Teh TCOT:

1. Unemployed people
2. Minimum wage workers
3. Union members
4. Government employees
5. Salaried professionals
6. Teachers
7. Immigrants
8. Non-whites
9. Vagina-havers
10. Non-Christians

Now here are all the MAKERS!!!!!

1. Kochs
2. Waltons
3. Romney
4. Janie Johnson

Hedge fund managers, who make money by gambling without investing any money in any actual economic activity: PRODUCERS!!!

Workers who actually, you know, PRODUCE THINGS: MOOCHERS!!!

135 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 19, 2014 11:52:12am

re: #131 A Mom Anon

I hope I wrote this recipe out so it’s understandable. I don’t measure anything out really, I just go by what looks right to me. Taste as you go is my best advice and adjust to your liking. It’s really good though.

Tiramisu with a Twist

Thanks!

I have found though that I don’t enjoy intensely sweet gooey desserts, I prefer more tartness.

136 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 11:52:19am

re: #133 Pie-onist Overlord

She and Bryan are not self-loathing at all. They LOVE themselves. It’s all those other human beings that they hate.

Oh? I think Phyilis is definitely a self-loathing woman. The whole attacks on working-women, rape victims, etc show me that she hates herself. Bryan I think is so deep in the closet that he’s gotten Turkish Delight from the witch and saved Narnia.

137 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 19, 2014 11:52:24am

re: #118 Pie-onist Overlord

Right now the “Death Tax” which the Kochs want to repeal, only kicks in for inheritances of over $5 million.

Why an ordinary teabagger thinks this will ever impact them, they must think they are going to win the Powerball.

That’s the whole of the big lie they sell though. That, anyone who works hard enough, will actually become one of the 1%. Never mind how stacked the deck is against anyone who starts without money, that’s the lie they sell.

Thus it’s easy for the fools to be lead by the nose to think that a _real_ inheritance tax would impact them.

I’d say more about the Koch’s but I find myself in a position to defer to Charles’s policies…

138 klys  Sep 19, 2014 11:52:43am

re: #135 Pie-onist Overlord

Thanks!

I have found though that I don’t enjoy intensely sweet gooey desserts, I prefer more tartness.

The rest of us will make the ultimate sacrifice and enjoy it for you.

139 aagcobb  Sep 19, 2014 11:52:58am

Speaking of GOP racism, here a GOP House candidate from NC who wants to go to war with Mexico.

140 ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2014 11:53:11am

re: #126 GeneJockey

I wish you hadn’t mentioned pie. Now I want one. A Shoo-Fly pie. A good one. Not the kind you buy at a grocery store, the one that an older Mennonite mom makes for the Fellowship Dinner at church….

You know, I have never had a piece of shoo-fly pie. And I grew up in an area where there were many Amish/Mennonites.

My mother, a 100% German farm-girl, was a hell of a pie and cookie maker. But she never made them or pecan pie. I’m thinking they were just too sweet for her tastes. I think she did make all the others but her cream pies were to die for. Her fruit pies were pretty damn good, but she killed cream pies of all kinds.

141 GeneJockey  Sep 19, 2014 11:53:22am

re: #136 HappyWarrior

Oh? I think Phyilis is definitely a self-loathing woman. The whole attacks on working-women, rape victims, etc show me that she hates herself. Bryan I think is so deep in the closet that he’s gotten Turkish Delight from the witch and saved Narnia.

I think the point was that she loathes women, but has an undeservedly high opinion of herself.

142 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 19, 2014 11:53:32am

re: #134 GeneJockey

Hedge fund managers, who make money by gambling without investing any money in any actual economic activity: PRODUCERS!!!

Workers who actually, you know, PRODUCE THINGS: MOOCHERS!!!

HURR HURR IF THERE SKILLZ HAD TEH VALUES THEY WOULD BE PAYED MOAR THEN THOSE OVERSEAS ASIAN WORKERS WHO REPLACED THEM!!!!!!!

143 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 11:53:57am

re: #129 GeneJockey

Yeah, but if it had passed, we couldn’t have separate men’s and women’s bathrooms!
//
I can’t believe people bought that shit.

People are so fucking dumb. Anyhow, pretty much every GOP presidential nominee until Reagan supported it. That should show you how much the GOP has regressed on women’s issues. Jerry Ford who was the same age as my dad’s parents was more progressive on women’s issues than your average modern day Republican. That dumbfounds me. Nixon even too. Nixon!

144 freetoken  Sep 19, 2014 11:54:26am

re: #139 aagcobb

Speaking of GOP racism, here a GOP House candidate from NC who wants to go to war with Mexico.

Sad thing is, he’ll probably win his district.

145 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 11:54:33am
146 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 11:54:41am

re: #141 GeneJockey

I think the point was that she loathes women, but has an undeservedly high opinion of herself.

Ah in that case, I agree with VB then. She definitely has a high opinion of herself.She’s been saying this same trash since my mother was a little girl without a hint of irony in her voice.

147 aagcobb  Sep 19, 2014 11:55:14am

re: #143 HappyWarrior

People are so fucking dumb. Anyhow, pretty much every GOP presidential nominee until Reagan supported it. That should show you how much the GOP has regressed on women’s issues. Jerry Ford who was the same age as my dad’s parents was more progressive on women’s issues than your average modern day Republican. That dumbfounds me. Nixon even too. Nixon!

Nixon was more progressive on the environment, health care, and fighting poverty than any Republican alive today.

148 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 11:55:22am

re: #141 GeneJockey

I think the point was that she loathes women, but has an undeservedly high opinion of herself.

She is so high-up on the Pedestal, she is almost a White Man.

149 Lumberhead  Sep 19, 2014 11:55:50am

re: #118 Pie-onist Overlord

Right now the “Death Tax” which the Kochs want to repeal, only kicks in for inheritances of over $5 million.

Why an ordinary teabagger thinks this will ever impact them, they must think they are going to win the Powerball.

I have a page posted that shows you need more than 2.3 million to be in the top 1%. So few people have more than 5 million it’s crazy to realize that so many are against the “Death Tax”.
Link

150 GeneJockey  Sep 19, 2014 11:55:54am

re: #144 freetoken

Sad thing is, he’ll probably win his district.

Because, even more sadly, he’ll actually represent the opinion of the majority of his constituents.

151 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 19, 2014 11:56:13am

re: #140 ObserverArt

You know, I have never had a piece of shoo-fly pie. And I grew up in an area where there were many Amish/Mennonites.

My mother, a 100% German farm-girl, was a hell of a pie and cookie maker. But she never made them or pecan pie. I’m thinking they were just too sweet for her tastes. I think she did make all the others but her cream pies were to die for. Her fruit pies were pretty damn good, but she killed cream pies of all kinds.

I enjoy my fruit pies the best. I have done some cream pies, and also the extremely gooey sweet like pecan & shoofly (which I don’t make any more) but my favorites are Blueberry, Apple and (today’s) Key Lime.

152 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 11:56:14am

re: #139 aagcobb

Speaking of GOP racism, here a GOP House candidate from NC who wants to go to war with Mexico.

What the guy in Georgia wasn’t crazy enough? And Freetoken is right, he probably will win. So even as we lose crazies like Bachmann, there’s a crazy read to fill in the void.

153 Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2014 11:56:19am

I don’t remember encountering this guy Gavin McInnes before, but wow, what an evil piece of work he is. 40,000 right wing followers on Twitter for an overt racist.

154 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 11:56:51am

re: #147 aagcobb

Nixon was more progressive on the environment, health care, and fighting poverty than any Republican alive today.

I know but it’s especially shocking how progressive Nixon was on women’s issues too. In fact, he considered appointing a woman to the Supreme Court too and signed Title IX.

155 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 11:56:53am
156 wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2014 11:57:05am

re: #153 Charles Johnson

I don’t remember encountering this guy Gavin McInnes before, but wow, what an evil piece of work he is. 40,000 right wing followers on Twitter for an overt racist.

Also, transphobic and proud of it.

157 freetoken  Sep 19, 2014 11:57:19am

re: #152 HappyWarrior

It’s crazies all the way down…

158 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 11:57:57am

re: #150 GeneJockey

Because, even more sadly, he’ll actually represent the opinion of the majority of his constituents.

I think that’s what saddens me really. The politicians are assholes and crooks but the people who vote them in. It scares and saddens me that many of my fellow Americans think like this.

159 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 11:58:24am

re: #157 freetoken

It’s crazies all the way down…

It’s a cray party.

160 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 11:58:48am

That guy’s a minister too. So much for love thy neighbor.

161 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 11:58:51am
162 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 19, 2014 11:58:56am

re: #149 Lumberhead

I have a page posted that shows you need more than 2.3 million to be in the top 1%. So few people have more than 5 million it’s crazy to realize that so many are against the “Death Tax”.
Link

Tweeted

163 allegro  Sep 19, 2014 11:59:43am

re: #143 HappyWarrior

People are so fucking dumb. Anyhow, pretty much every GOP presidential nominee until Reagan supported it. That should show you how much the GOP has regressed on women’s issues. Jerry Ford who was the same age as my dad’s parents was more progressive on women’s issues than your average modern day Republican. That dumbfounds me. Nixon even too. Nixon!

Jerry Ford was the last Republican I ever voted for. Really liked that guy though I thought his Nixon parson was a mis-step.

164 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 11:59:49am
165 klys  Sep 19, 2014 12:01:05pm

re: #149 Lumberhead

I have a page posted that shows you need more than 2.3 million to be in the top 1%. So few people have more than 5 million it’s crazy to realize that so many are against the “Death Tax”.
Link

There are times the world just smacks me and reminds me I need to re-evaluate the meters I use.

166 GeneJockey  Sep 19, 2014 12:01:20pm

re: #140 ObserverArt

You know, I have never had a piece of shoo-fly pie. And I grew up in an area where there were many Amish/Mennonites.

My mother, a 100% German farm-girl, was a hell of a pie and cookie maker. But she never made them or pecan pie. I’m thinking they were just too sweet for her tastes. I think she did make all the others but her cream pies were to die for. Her fruit pies were pretty damn good, but she killed cream pies of all kinds.

My view of pies is skewed by growing up in orchard country with a father who worked for a fruit processing company. When I was a kid, fruit was cheaper than ‘glop’ (that combination of starch, sugar, and juice), so canned pie filling was actually damned good!

Later, Dad told me, as glop became cheaper, the company lowered the ‘fill weight’ (how much fruit mass/can) and by the time he retired, he said he was no longer comfortable recommending his company’s pie fillings.

But also, I grew up in an area full of Mennonites, Brethren, and even a few Amish, and we attended a Mennonite church, so I was exposed to a number of the old Mennonite recipes.

167 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 12:02:06pm

re: #163 allegro

Jerry Ford was the last Republican I ever voted for. Really liked that guy though I thought his Nixon parson was a mis-step.

He’s the last Republican presidential candidate I could see myself voting for. Decent and likable enough guy. And as a son of a woman abused by her husband (Jerry’s birth father), I’m sure he would have strong words for the pricks blaming Janay Rice for Ray’s violence. He was a genuinely decent guy IMO. The GOP’s been pretty downhill since he left office.

168 Lidane  Sep 19, 2014 12:02:07pm

re: #147 aagcobb

Nixon was more progressive on the environment, health care, and fighting poverty than any Republican alive today.

Nixon wouldn’t even get out of the primaries these days just because he took us off the gold standard, normalized relations with China, passed the Clean Air and Clean Water acts, and had a hand in the creation of OSHA and the EPA.

169 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 12:03:17pm

re: #168 Lidane

Nixon wouldn’t even get out of the primaries these days just because he took us off the gold standard, normalized relations with China, passed the Clean Air and Clean Water acts, and had a hand in the creation of OSHA and the EPA.

Nixon would do worse than Jon Huntsman did. He also wasn’t ashamed to be smart either. Unlike Gingrich who pretends to be an intellectual.

170 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 12:04:41pm

Really the GOP has in a century gone from Teddy Roosevelt to Rand Paul as its standard bearer. That’s actually sad. I am no Republican nor do I have any fondness towards it in general but wow that’s just sad. I really blame the party leadership for catering to some of the most extreme and bigoted elements in American society for that.

171 GeneJockey  Sep 19, 2014 12:05:02pm

re: #168 Lidane

Nixon wouldn’t even get out of the primaries these days just because he took us off the gold standard, normalized relations with China, passed the Clean Air and Clean Water acts, and had a hand in the creation of OSHA and the EPA.

Nixon? Cripes, REAGAN couldn’t get through primary season today. Negotiated with the USSR without preconditions, raised taxes to save Social Security, suppoted the Brady Bill and the Scary Looking Assault Weapons Ban - he’d have been laughed off the stage along with what’s-his-name, the OTHER Mormon ex-Governor from 2012.

172 Decatur Deb  Sep 19, 2014 12:05:06pm

re: #96 Pie-onist Overlord

How’d that work out for them in the 1860’s?

It was a very poor lesson that Jefferson Davis didn’t die in his cell at Ft. Monroe.

173 Lidane  Sep 19, 2014 12:06:16pm

re: #171 GeneJockey

Nixon? Cripes, REAGAN couldn’t get through primary season today. Negotiated with the USSR without preconditions, raised taxes to save Social Security, suppoted the Brady Bill and the Scary Looking Assault Weapons Ban - he’d have been laughed off the stage along with what’s-his-name, the OTHER Mormon ex-Governor from 2012.

Don’t forget the amnesty bill for illegal immigrants. Reagan would’ve been crucified for that alone.

174 A Mom Anon  Sep 19, 2014 12:06:27pm

re: #135 Pie-onist Overlord

use less sugar and back off the chocolate a little. I don’t put sugar in the whipped cream either, some people do, I think it’s overkill. The irish crème is very sweet too, you can use less than I do, even 1 T is plenty. I use a lot because I like it, lol. Play with the recipe to get the desired sweetness. Instead of all that chocolate you can use unsweetened cocoa powder in each layer with just a little of the chocolate.

175 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 12:07:18pm

re: #172 Decatur Deb

It was a very poor lesson that Jefferson Davis didn’t die in his cell at Ft. Monroe.

If I have one criticism of Lincoln’s policies, I think he was too willing to forgive the CSA and its leaders for inflicting the greatest tragedy a country can have.That said, I think more blame is on the Republican leaders of the 1870’s for agreeing to end Reconstruction so President Hayes could win the disputed election between him and Tilden.

176 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 12:08:03pm

re: #171 GeneJockey

Nixon? Cripes, REAGAN couldn’t get through primary season today. Negotiated with the USSR without preconditions, raised taxes to save Social Security, suppoted the Brady Bill and the Scary Looking Assault Weapons Ban - he’d have been laughed off the stage along with what’s-his-name, the OTHER Mormon ex-Governor from 2012.

and JFK?

177 Bulworth  Sep 19, 2014 12:08:19pm

re:
#118

Right now the “Death Tax” which the Kochs want to repeal, only kicks in for inheritances of over $5 million.

Why an ordinary teabagger thinks this will ever impact them, they must think they are going to win the Powerball.

Because Freedom! and because gov overspending and waste and moneys from death tax goes to food stamps and welfares!!!1

178 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 19, 2014 12:09:04pm

re: #173 Lidane

Don’t forget the amnesty bill for illegal immigrants. Reagan would’ve been crucified for that alone.

Even those who utterly worship Zombie Reagan will say that out loud. They really really hate anyone getting it the way of their creation of a helot class based on illeagals in America

179 GeneJockey  Sep 19, 2014 12:09:05pm

re: #176 FemNaziBitch

and JFK?

JFK was really a Conservative!!

180 Decatur Deb  Sep 19, 2014 12:09:11pm

re: #161 FemNaziBitch

National Voter Registration Day is September 23.

Alabama Voter Registration Day is every day between now and Oct 20.

181 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 19, 2014 12:09:56pm

re: #174 A Mom Anon

use less sugar and back off the chocolate a little. I don’t put sugar in the whipped cream either, some people do, I think it’s overkill. The irish crème is very sweet too, you can use less than I do, even 1 T is plenty. I use a lot because I like it, lol. Play with the recipe to get the desired sweetness. Instead of all that chocolate you can use unsweetened cocoa powder in each layer with just a little of the chocolate.

Apple pie is next up on the schedule, and then we’re coming into the season for Pumpkin pie. I’ll have to fit a Peach cobbler in too.

182 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 12:10:12pm

bbl

183 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 19, 2014 12:10:34pm

re: #176 FemNaziBitch

and JFK?

JFK started the whole “tax cuts for the rich!” ball rolling.

184 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 12:10:45pm

Costco makes a good pumpkin pie. Another reason to like em.

185 klys  Sep 19, 2014 12:11:02pm

re: #149 Lumberhead

I have a page posted that shows you need more than 2.3 million to be in the top 1%. So few people have more than 5 million it’s crazy to realize that so many are against the “Death Tax”.
Link

That number includes the equity in your home (net worth of Americans).

Taken into account that way it’s an incredibly low number. (Retirement savings, anyone?)

186 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 12:11:13pm

They claim JFK was a conservative yet they attacked him throughout his presidency…………….

187 Lidane  Sep 19, 2014 12:11:26pm

Would it be too much to ask for the RWNJs to pick memes about both the NSA and Russia and stick with them?

Cliff Kincaid: NSA Should Monitor Obama As A Potential Russian Agent

188 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 12:11:40pm

I have no doubt that in 50 years that conservatives will be claiming President Obama as one of their own.

189 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 12:12:13pm

re: #187 Lidane

Would it be too much to ask for the RWNJs to pick memes about both the NSA and Russia and stick with them?

Cliff Kincaid: NSA Should Monitor Obama As A Potential Russian Agent

roflmao. Okay Cliff you can stop huffing clue.

190 dog philosopher  Sep 19, 2014 12:12:13pm

White Nationalist Web

angles and saxons out of celtic britain now!

191 Lidane  Sep 19, 2014 12:12:17pm

re: #186 HappyWarrior

They claim JFK was a conservative yet they attacked him throughout his presidency…………….

Shit, the Birchers were calling JFK a communist and demanding his removal from office, IIRC.

Sounds vaguely familiar.

192 b.d.  Sep 19, 2014 12:12:28pm

And to think that I finally sold my stock in that Iron Lung making company yesterday.

193 EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2014 12:12:47pm

re: #27 HappyWarrior

Doesn’t help that you have “intellectual conservative” mags like NR that happily employ white nationalists for them. Conservatives and conservatism needs to some deep soul searching about their ideology and what it will mean to be a conservative in the 21st century. I am not one who thinks that conservatism is an ideology that will die out and it’s exactly because of that, that I want them fixing their bugs now rather than running away from it and crying about the mean old left calling them racists.

This x100. US conservatism these days is rapidly regressing to the worst available historical models of rightist populism, with bonus points for Koch bothers et al. astroturfing the whole sordid mess.

IMO, conservatism as a political philosophy is only relevant in times of unreasonably radical reform (e.g., the worst excesses of the French revolution). It should be irrelevant for the 21st century US, where the need is for much greater reforms rather than ending reform or undoing past progress.

194 dog philosopher  Sep 19, 2014 12:13:31pm

horrible white nat

cro-magnons back to africa!!!

leave neanderthal european natives alone!!!

195 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 12:13:42pm

re: #191 Lidane

Shit, the Birchers were calling JFK a communist and demanding his removal from office, IIRC.

Sounds vaguely familiar.

Image: wantedfortreason.jpg
Gee this doesn’t look familiar at all does it?

196 Bulworth  Sep 19, 2014 12:15:53pm

re:
#195

Gee this doesn’t look familiar at all does it?

“Time is a flat circle….”
—-Rust Cohle

197 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 19, 2014 12:16:16pm

re: #195 HappyWarrior

Image: wantedfortreason.jpg
Gee this doesn’t look familiar at all does it?

HURR HURR JFK WAS SHOT BY TEH LIBRUL DEMOCRAT COMMUNIST!!!!!!!

198 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 12:17:15pm

re: #193 EPR-radar

This x100. US conservatism these days is rapidly regressing to the worst available historical models of rightist populism, with bonus points for Koch bothers et al. astroturfing the whole sordid mess.

IMO, conservatism as a political philosophy is only relevant in times of unreasonably radical reform (e.g., the worst excesses of the French revolution). It should be irrelevant for the 21st century US, where the need is for much greater reforms rather than ending reform or undoing past progress.

US conservatism is growing more and more reactionary. And honestly even those conservatives of the French Revolution era weren’t really conservatives. I don’t see Burke as a conservative for his age. He was a supporter of the American revolution and sympathetic to how the Irish were treated. He wasn’t Robespierre of course but I’d say he wasn’t really a conservative by his own time’s standards. The conservatives of those times were the ones championing absolute monarchy “because that’s all we’ve known and it works.”

199 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 12:17:44pm

re: #196 Bulworth

re:
#195

“Time is a flat circle….”
—-Rust Cohle

Cannot wait for season 2!

200 Kragar  Sep 19, 2014 12:18:36pm

Moving day. The powers that be decided to move my team from out of our secure vault up to a corner of the cubicle farm in order to “better make use of available space”

In other words, they wanted to use the vault as a secure storage room so they dumped us out into general population.

This day. It will be rued.

201 Lumberhead  Sep 19, 2014 12:21:00pm

re: #185 klys

That number includes the equity in your home (net worth of Americans).

Taken into account that way it’s an incredibly low number. (Retirement savings, anyone?)

It’s an incredibly low number that gets you into the top 1%. The incredibly low number in that article is what income level it takes to get into top 50% of income about 34k. Even including home equity, I’d be surprised that most people have more than a couple hundred thousand. There are a lot of people with nothing for retirement savings.

Edit: That should be 34k AGI.

202 lawhawk  Sep 19, 2014 12:24:26pm

re: #196 Bulworth

Wrong. From one who knows:

Youtube Video

Wibbly wobbly timey wimey… stuff.

203 Patricia Kayden  Sep 19, 2014 12:24:29pm

re: #30 Shazam

How can a party with so much open contempt for women, blacks and hispanics win any national elections?

Because there are enough White Americans who share their views.

204 Decatur Deb  Sep 19, 2014 12:25:53pm

re: #203 Patricia Kayden

Because there are enough White Americans who share their views.

And too many American minority non-voters who don’t.

205 Patricia Kayden  Sep 19, 2014 12:26:32pm

re: #139 aagcobb

Speaking of GOP racism, here a GOP House candidate from NC who wants to go to war with Mexico.

I’d be glad to see him personally go fight a war with Mexico. Good riddance.

206 Mattand  Sep 19, 2014 12:31:58pm

re: #11 A Mom Anon

I’m going to go with both, for the win! Sigh.

We’re having people over for dinner this weekend, one of whom is a wingnut of rather epic proportions. I just found out he’s a birther too. Damn it. If he starts on the whole “certificate of live birth” crap, I’m ready for him. My BC, my son’s and my daughter’s all say that right on top. My husband’s says something like “birth registration notice”. I have copies of all of them in my kitchen office.

I’m hoping we can keep the politics out of it, because outside of this, he’s a really funny person, a blast to hang out with. Perhaps the power of the Lasagna and Tiramisu shall tame the madness. We shall see.

My one cousin lately has been using Facebook to demonstrate his abject ignorance and the barely hidden racism that unfortunately informs that side of the family:

• Quasi-birther post showing Uncle Sam praying the next POTUS is an American who will defend the US. I pointed out the current POTUS is and took out Bin Laden, among others. No comment from him.

• Pulling the false balance card with the Ferguson shootings (“We need to hear both sides of the story before we judge”)

• Went full metal Truther on 9/11 and defended it by claiming to be just asking questions and questioning authority.

He never graduated high school and was a shitty student all around, and it’s showing. I may skip the family Xmas party this year.

207 ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2014 12:33:17pm

re: #166 GeneJockey

My view of pies is skewed by growing up in orchard country with a father who worked for a fruit processing company. When I was a kid, fruit was cheaper than ‘glop’ (that combination of starch, sugar, and juice), so canned pie filling was actually damned good!

Later, Dad told me, as glop became cheaper, the company lowered the ‘fill weight’ (how much fruit mass/can) and by the time he retired, he said he was no longer comfortable recommending his company’s pie fillings.

But also, I grew up in an area full of Mennonites, Brethren, and even a few Amish, and we attended a Mennonite church, so I was exposed to a number of the old Mennonite recipes.

If you don’t mind saying, where did you grow up GeneJockey?

I’m from north central Ohio and there were/are many Amish and Mennonites in that area. I was on an old race forum back in the late 90s and there was a teacher from out in the Calgary Canada area that taught at a Mennonite school. He told me that there are more Mennonites in Ohio than anywhere else. I told him I was surprised there were Mennonites in Calagary.

Many people think Pennsylvania is the largest home to Amish, but I’ve been told Ohio has more. I don’t know, but I always liked going by some areas of Ohio that still look like the 1800s…like the farms around Shreve.

And just like my mothers side of the family…there are tons of Germans that came to America in the mid-1800s and bought property and set up farms. So, the whole area I grew up in still had many great old world foods traditions and life styles.

I miss the old Catholic Church Festival at my mothers old home and farm area. That was some great food as it was all fresh off the farm, cleaned, prepared and cooked by the local German ladies.

208 Lumberhead  Sep 19, 2014 12:33:37pm

re: #188 HappyWarrior

I have no doubt that in 50 years that conservatives will be claiming President Obama as one of their own.

And Obamacare.

209 A Mom Anon  Sep 19, 2014 12:34:38pm

re: #201 Lumberhead

Yep. I’m 54, my husband is 47. We have about 2K in a 401K. The first one lost 65K in the crash, and then when he lost his job we had to cash out the rest of it so we wouldn’t lose everything. We have some equity in our home, but we had to refinance a couple of times (and we didn’t use our house as an ATM, we have a non variable rate mortgage ) and so that effects things.

We don’t live like kings at all. The only actual splurge thing we have is a Harley but I can’t get my husband to even think of selling it (which would get us almost out of all our debt besides the house, but that’s a whole other issue, GRRRRR). We don’t spend money, mostly because we don’t have it. I drive a compact car, my husband has a work truck. We can’t even afford to insure our kid so he can drive. It wasn’t always like this, my husband was a middle management guy, making 6 figures. Until 2008 when after 15 yrs the company let him go without so much as a warning it was coming. In fact, they led him to believe he was next in line for a VP job with them. Since then, he’s been making less than half of that, he had to go back to being a blue collar worker, the kind of work he used to be the boss of.

I suspect we’re not alone at all in that. But I wake up sometimes scared shitless that we’re going to end up homeless and our son will have no one to help him if something happens to us. (he has Asperger’s Syndrome) It wasn’t supposed to turn out like this. We did all the things you’re “supposed” to do and it got us nowhere.

210 leftynyc  Sep 19, 2014 12:35:05pm

Wow - it seems like things in Kansas may get even more interesting. It seems Kobach needs permission from the feds to get the military/absentee ballots sent out a week later than they were to be sent and as yet he hasn’t petitioned them for that (they’re supposed to go out today)

talkingpointsmemo.com

211 klys  Sep 19, 2014 12:36:10pm

re: #201 Lumberhead

It’s an incredibly low number that gets you into the top 1%. The incredibly low number in that article is what income level it takes to get into top 50% of income about 34k. Even including home equity, I’d be surprised that most people have more than a couple hundred thousand. There are a lot of people with nothing for retirement savings.

Edit: That should be 34k AGI.

Both sets of numbers are low. I at least had some familiarity with the income numbers, but the wealth ones are also staggeringly low to me.

Of course, living in CA is living in a fiscal distortion zone too.

212 ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2014 12:37:07pm

re: #200 Kragar

Moving day. The powers that be decided to move my team from out of our secure vault up to a corner of the cubicle farm in order to “better make use of available space”

In other words, they wanted to use the vault as a secure storage room so they dumped us out into general population.

This day. It will be rued.

Well, there goes the neighborhood. They got you out in the light now.

/

213 klys  Sep 19, 2014 12:38:44pm

Tree removal is expensive.

/grouch

214 TedStriker  Sep 19, 2014 12:39:32pm

re: #200 Kragar

Moving day. The powers that be decided to move my team from out of our secure vault up to a corner of the cubicle farm in order to “better make use of available space”

In other words, they wanted to use the vault as a secure storage room so they dumped us out into general population.

This day. It will be rued.

You work for a defense contractor of some sorts, don’t you?

215 Bulworth  Sep 19, 2014 12:41:24pm

re:
#200

In other words, they wanted to use the vault as a secure storage room so they dumped us out into general population.

I couldn’t handle general population now, with my own office space for 10+ years.

216 ObserverArt  Sep 19, 2014 12:42:48pm

re: #209 A Mom Anon

Yep. I’m 54, my husband is 47. We have about 2K in a 401K. The first one lost 65K in the crash, and then when he lost his job we had to cash out the rest of it so we wouldn’t lose everything. We have some equity in our home, but we had to refinance a couple of times (and we didn’t use our house as an ATM, we have a non variable rate mortgage ) and so that effects things.

We don’t live like kings at all. The only actual splurge thing we have is a Harley but I can’t get my husband to even think of selling it (which would get us almost out of all our debt besides the house, but that’s a whole other issue, GRRRRR). We don’t spend money, mostly because we don’t have it. I drive a compact car, my husband has a work truck. We can’t even afford to insure our kid so he can drive. It wasn’t always like this, my husband was a middle management guy, making 6 figures. Until 2008 when after 15 yrs the company let him go without so much as a warning it was coming. In fact, they led him to believe he was next in line for a VP job with them. Since then, he’s been making less than half of that, he had to go back to being a blue collar worker, the kind of work he used to be the boss of.

I suspect we’re not alone at all in that. But I wake up sometimes scared shitless that we’re going to end up homeless and our son will have no one to help him if something happens to us. (he has Asperger’s Syndrome) It wasn’t supposed to turn out like this. We did all the things you’re “supposed” to do and it got us nowhere.

You are not alone. There are many going through tough times. There are many sleepless nights in America. I sure as hell wished the Republicans and others realized how some people really see things.

217 Lumberhead  Sep 19, 2014 12:44:02pm

re: #209 A Mom Anon

Unfortunately I have a story very similar as do many, many more Americans today. The middle class was heavily damaged in 2008 - 2010 and it isn’t recovering in a meaningful way. We did most of the “right” things (marriage, home ownership, etc.) and got kicked in the butt anyway.
I get frustrated when so many won’t see that a large part of the problem is the GOP and their hatred for our president.

218 Kragar  Sep 19, 2014 12:44:22pm

re: #214 TedStriker

You work for a defense contractor of some sorts, don’t you?

Of sorts

219 blueraven  Sep 19, 2014 12:47:17pm

re: #210 leftynyc

Wow - it seems like things in Kansas may get even more interesting. It seems Kobach needs permission from the feds to get the military/absentee ballots sent out a week later than they were to be sent and as yet he hasn’t petitioned them for that (they’re supposed to go out today)

talkingpointsmemo.com

Heh…

220 piratedan  Sep 19, 2014 12:48:50pm

re: #216 ObserverArt

my response to you Art is that they don’t care… they are well paid lackeys on the influence gravy train kept in line with the knowledge that they got theirs, fuck you. Not saying that there isn’t a smattering of delusional true believers in the free market baby jeebus but for the most part, these guys are part of the wealth machine, in place to keep the wealth exactly where it is and if possible funnel new sources and old sources of wealth into their hands. Admittance to the club is difficult to obtain and as such, most of the GOP legislators knew that they can be the first off the ship if the tune isn’t danced to properly. Fortunately for them, real revolutions aren’t commonplace or else there would be a lot more heads on pikes.

221 aagcobb  Sep 19, 2014 12:50:40pm

re: #205 Patricia Kayden

I’d be glad to see him personally go fight a war with Mexico. Good riddance.

I would bet money he didn’t serve in the military, but would be happy to vote for all sorts of wars to send our troops to die fighting.

222 Romantic Heretic  Sep 19, 2014 12:51:13pm

re: #94 HappyWarrior

It really has gotten crazy and I see no end to it. Obama could resign tomorrow. Hell Boehner could become president and I think the only thing that would satisfy them would be a Charles I/Louie XVI style show trial that results in Obama being beheaded publicly. And even then I doubt they’d be satisfied.

Of course not. All the other liberals need to be killed as well.

Only when the world is pure can America be safe!

223 aagcobb  Sep 19, 2014 12:51:51pm

re: #208 Lumberhead

And Obamacare.

They designed it.

224 Lumberhead  Sep 19, 2014 12:52:16pm

re: #211 klys

Both sets of numbers are low. I at least had some familiarity with the income numbers, but the wealth ones are also staggeringly low to me.

Of course, living in CA is living in a fiscal distortion zone too.

I can certainly see that living in a high cost of living area can make the numbers seem low but many people are still underwater on their homes.
There has been some recovery but there are still vast amounts of un/underemployed. Part time hours that barely get your family through the month, car repairs that throw you in debt, etc. It’s still real hard out there for many of the former middle class. For many, retirement is just a fantasy, far off event that can’t be addressed now.

225 EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2014 1:05:04pm

re: #198 HappyWarrior

US conservatism is growing more and more reactionary. And honestly even those conservatives of the French Revolution era weren’t really conservatives. I don’t see Burke as a conservative for his age. He was a supporter of the American revolution and sympathetic to how the Irish were treated. He wasn’t Robespierre of course but I’d say he wasn’t really a conservative by his own time’s standards. The conservatives of those times were the ones championing absolute monarchy “because that’s all we’ve known and it works.”

I agree that Burke was a relatively moderate conservative. He just happened to be the first to explicitly set forth a defense of the way things are/were that is not just mindless traditionalism.

Also agree that absolute monarchy is the platonic ideal of conservatism, even if disguised at times. For example, US conservatives would happily accept absolute rule, as long as it is by plutocrats as opposed to an explicitly hereditary absolute monarchy.

If I recall correctly, Burke supported modest reforms, making him considerably more reasonable than WF Buckley with his “stop history” nonsense.

226 GeneJockey  Sep 19, 2014 1:19:19pm

re: #207 ObserverArt

If you don’t mind saying, where did you grow up GeneJockey?

I’m from north central Ohio and there were/are many Amish and Mennonites in that area. I was on an old race forum back in the late 90s and there was a teacher from out in the Calgary Canada area that taught at a Mennonite school. He told me that there are more Mennonites in Ohio than anywhere else. I told him I was surprised there were Mennonites in Calagary.

Many people think Pennsylvania is the largest home to Amish, but I’ve been told Ohio has more. I don’t know, but I always liked going by some areas of Ohio that still look like the 1800s…like the farms around Shreve.

And just like my mothers side of the family…there are tons of Germans that came to America in the mid-1800s and bought property and set up farms. So, the whole area I grew up in still had many great old world foods traditions and life styles.

I miss the old Catholic Church Festival at my mothers old home and farm area. That was some great food as it was all fresh off the farm, cleaned, prepared and cooked by the local German ladies.

South Central PA, near Gettysburg. Farther west than Lancaster, with a smaller population of Amish. Mennonites are a minority there, but they’ve been there for centuries.

The thing about the Amish is that their population grows, and they have to find someplace to expand. My wife grew up in a farming town out in the toe of New York. Lots of family farms, but like a lot of family farms, the last 50 years have not been kind. The Amish started moving in about 40 years ago, and now are a substantial presence there.

227 GeneJockey  Sep 19, 2014 1:21:05pm

re: #213 klys

Tree removal is expensive.

/grouch

No shit. But getting rid of those fucking liquidambars was worth every penny.

228 TedStriker  Sep 19, 2014 1:30:24pm

re: #218 Kragar

Of sorts

As someone who deals with such contractors, my hope is that your employer doesn’t do anything stupid to draw the attention of certain three-letter agencies, some of which represent the DoD, in moving your team out of your vault.

You’re former active-duty, IIRC; I’m sure you know the drill already.

229 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 19, 2014 1:44:27pm

re: #153 Charles Johnson

I don’t remember encountering this guy Gavin McInnes before, but wow, what an evil piece of work he is. 40,000 right wing followers on Twitter for an overt racist.

He doesn’t think very highly of Asians…wonder if that includes Upchuck’s wife…

Fox News Guest Launches Race-Based Attack On Neil deGrasse Tyson

McInnes currrently writes for Taki’s Magazine, a “paleoconservative” website that publishes overtly racist articles including ones by neo-confederates. At Taki’s, McInnes has referred to Asian-Americans as “slopes” and “riceballs,” suggested Muslims are “stupider” and “more violent” due to inbreeding, defended blackface because some minstrel shows were “just mimicking black people” and “fun,” backed the racist comments of Duck Dynasty’s Phil Robertson, and argued that to yell the n-word at someone is “not racist” but “just very rude.” He also owns his own website, streetcarnage.com, where he defended Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s racist comments because Bundy was just “wonder[ing]” if African-Americans were better off under slavery. In 2013, 18 Milling Rising gave him a “Lifetime Achievement Award in Hipster Racism,” a brand of racism marked by making “ironically” racist “jokes.”

230 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 19, 2014 1:47:06pm

re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth
Now I see why he is Ant Cumia’s good buddy.

231 wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2014 1:55:56pm

re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth

He doesn’t think very highly of Asians…wonder if that includes Upchuck’s wife…

Fox News Guest Launches Race-Based Attack On Neil deGrasse Tyson

Like so may haters, he doesn’t know where to quit. Hate Without Borders. He’s gonna piss off Derpyshire (who also writes for Takimag and has a Chinese-American wife).

232 Sophist -- Missouri Goddamn  Sep 19, 2014 2:00:30pm
@Gavin_McInnes defends yours truly from the Twitter lynch mob…

Which is a pretty ironic turn of phrase, seeing as the people defending you are the spiritual (if not literal) descendants of the actual lynch mobs.

233 Chez Ko Pe  Sep 19, 2014 2:18:15pm

re: #60 FemNaziBitch

Kidding, yes? If Rush Limbaugh farts, it’s Obama’s fault.
Eighty times a day.


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