NBC Was Wrong: Federal Charges Have Not Been “Ruled Out” for Gov. Christie

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You may have seen right wing sites trumpeting a report on last night’s NBC Nightly News in which Brian Williams said that federal charges against New Jersey governor Chris Christie in the “Bridgegate” scandal had been ruled out. This report led to an orgy of football-spiking, all over the right wing blogs.

But, uh, Brian Williams was wrong.

NEWARK - NBC says a report by Brian Williams on the network’s Nightly News that federal charges have been ruled out for Gov. Chris Christie in the George Washington Bridge scandal was incorrect.

Federal prosecutors say the investigation is ongoing and haven’t made any announcement on Christie’s status.

“The investigation is continuing,” said Rebekah Carmichael, a spokeswoman for U.S. Attorney for New Jersey Paul Fishman.

NBC outlets had several reports Thursday and Friday citing anonymous sources saying no Christie connection had been uncovered while noting the investigation is continuing. However, Williams on NBC Nightly News Thursday night reported that “federal charges are now ruled out for Chris Christie in the affair that came to be known as Bridgegate.”

NBC spokeswoman Erika Masonhall said that was wrong.

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444 comments
1 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 19, 2014 3:40:44pm

So Lizards who have been paying attention - Christie is no longer one of the favorites for 2016, right?

2 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 19, 2014 3:42:59pm

I think it’s safe to say now that Fox News has done an outstanding job of dragging the rest of the U.S. Media down with them.

Journalism sucks in this country.

3 Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2014 3:51:00pm

re: #1 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

So Lizards who have been paying attention - Christie is no longer one of the favorites for 2016, right?

Christie is not the base’s favorite, but he certainly is the media’s. It’s why, when the Bridgegate business began putting out a rancid stench, they began seriously entertaining the idea of drafting Jeb Bush.

4 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 19, 2014 4:03:36pm

I’m blaming it on demons. Anything else would be irresponsible

5 nines09  Sep 19, 2014 4:03:39pm

re: #1 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

He’s sure sounding like GOP Presidential material. Up on charges and Full In.

6 Kid A  Sep 19, 2014 4:05:25pm

#SMOTI and his possessed demon worshippers are batshit over someone in Houston allegedly (to them there’s nothing alleged about it) wearing an ISIS logo on the back of their shirt. Here’s the local link to the story, but I’ll say it’s rubbish.
abc13.com

7 Kid A  Sep 19, 2014 4:07:33pm

LOL. From the comment section:

Please all don’t freak out it’s just James O’keefe going to get a bacon and egg sandwich.

8 Bubblehead II  Sep 19, 2014 4:10:35pm

You know, I don’t like to be the guy who pee’s in the pool. But has anyone seen DF? Since this morning.? Ya know, the why we should support Uganda post.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Then (as usual, he ran a way) when confronted.

9 Amory Blaine  Sep 19, 2014 4:11:09pm

I saw this and thought of you Charles.

Youtube Video

10 Kid A  Sep 19, 2014 4:11:55pm

re: #8 Bubblehead II

You know, I don’t like to be the guy who pee’s in the pool. But has anyone seen DF? Since this morning.? Ya know, the why we should support Uganda post.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Then (as usual, he ran a way) when confronted.

Oh, good fucking grief Dark. Really??

11 Justanotherhuman  Sep 19, 2014 4:14:34pm

re: #10 Kid A

Oh, good fucking grief Dark. Really??

What the?

Yeah, really? : )

Could it be that the politics of Uganda line up favorably with Texas politics?

12 makeitstop  Sep 19, 2014 4:16:05pm

I got a crisp new 20 that says this won’t even get a mention on Chuck Todd’s little gabfest on Sunday morning.

13 darthstar  Sep 19, 2014 4:16:24pm

Can we wait until he’s the Republican nominee before he’s indicted?

14 Bubblehead II  Sep 19, 2014 4:18:42pm

re: #10 Kid A

Oh, good fucking grief Dark. Really??

Yep. He’s supporting the let’s imprison/kill the gay’s Government of Uganda. Why?

15 Justanotherhuman  Sep 19, 2014 4:19:24pm

Even Chris “Clown” Cillizza got it wrong on Christie, too.

Today is a very good day for Chris Christie

washingtonpost.com

It’s what happens when you just play at journalism.

16 GeneJockey  Sep 19, 2014 4:20:05pm

re: #14 Bubblehead II

Yep. He’s supporting the let’s imprison/kill the gay’s Government of Uganda. Why?

Why, because they’re such an important ally, of course!

17 EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2014 4:20:06pm

re: #8 Bubblehead II

You know, I don’t like to be the guy who pee’s in the pool. But has anyone seen DF? Since this morning.? Ya know, the why we should support Uganda post.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Then (as usual, he ran a way) when confronted.

DF’s defense of the conservative cause here is usually laughable. I could do better, and I loathe US conservatism and everything it stands for.

18 Decatur Deb  Sep 19, 2014 4:20:39pm

re: #1 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

So Lizards who have been paying attention - Christie is no longer one of the favorites for 2016, right?

Certainly not at Free Republic. (They are discussing his absolution at the moment.)

19 makeitstop  Sep 19, 2014 4:22:12pm

re: #14 Bubblehead II

Yep. He’s supporting the let’s imprison/kill the gay’s Government of Uganda. Why?

Because they’re a “good ally” or something. I’m still pretty gobsmacked by that statement, but he didn’t stick around long enough to defend or explain it.

20 Justanotherhuman  Sep 19, 2014 4:23:54pm

Russia being assholes—again.

Editor’s note: An unnamed U.S. official tells CNN’s Barbara Starr that officials in Washington think the Russian flight incidents were related to the visit by Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko, who talked to Canadian officials Wednesday and President Barack Obama on Thursday. We’re watching for additional official statements on the planes being intercepted. - Stephanie
read more on cnn.com

NORTH AMERICAN AEROSPACE DEFENSE COMMAND
28m
NORAD on Russian planes intercepted near US, Canadian airspace: ‘We think these are standard training activities … but we’ll continue to monitor all air activity approaching American airspace’ - @KiritRadia
see original on twitter.com

RUSSIAN PLANES INTERCEPTED NEAR US, CANADIAN AIRSPACE
31m
More: 2 US jets intercepted 6 Russian planes that neared US airspace off Alaska Thursday; Canadian planes intercepted 2 two Russian bombers that approached Canadian airspace, NORAD says - @CNN
read more on cnn.com

21 Kid A  Sep 19, 2014 4:25:44pm

What do you think these two wizards talked about?

22 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 4:26:20pm
23 Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2014 4:26:46pm
24 freetoken  Sep 19, 2014 4:26:51pm

re: #21 Kid A

Their grins are eerily similarly creepy.

25 WhatEVs  Sep 19, 2014 4:27:02pm

re: #18 Decatur Deb

Certainly not at Free Republic. (They are discussing his absolution at the moment.)

They’ll fall in line if he’s the nominee.

They’ve hated him since “Sandy” because all citizens should suffer after a national tragedy.

26 makeitstop  Sep 19, 2014 4:27:20pm

re: #21 Kid A

What do you think these two wizards talked about?

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My guess is they just sat there and drooled at each other.

27 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 19, 2014 4:27:36pm

re: #21 Kid A

That’s almost worse than the photo of the Russian Satanist, ain’t it?

28 Gus  Sep 19, 2014 4:27:56pm

SPASTIC TUBES!

29 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 19, 2014 4:28:08pm

re: #20 Justanotherhuman

littlegreenfootballs.com

30 dog philosopher  Sep 19, 2014 4:28:17pm

christie vs hillary

jeb vs hillary

romney vs hillary

hmmmm

31 Bubblehead II  Sep 19, 2014 4:28:40pm

re: #19 makeitstop

Because they’re a “good ally” or something. I’m still pretty gobsmacked by that statement, but he didn’t stick around long enough to defend or explain it.

Typical DF. Drops a turd and then claim he has something else to do in the meat world when challenged. Classic troll behavior.

32 darthstar  Sep 19, 2014 4:28:44pm

re: #24 freetoken

Their grins are eerily similarly creepy.

I just hope it wasn’t taken with an iPhone during a pap smear.

33 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 19, 2014 4:29:06pm

re: #22 FemNaziBitch

How did you meet her?

34 Kid A  Sep 19, 2014 4:30:00pm

re: #27 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

That’s almost worse than the photo of the Russian Satanist, ain’t it?

No, this is much, much worse.

35 WhatEVs  Sep 19, 2014 4:30:26pm

re: #21 Kid A

What do you think these two wizards talked about?

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How awful it was that Akin stuck his foot in his own mouth.

36 WhatEVs  Sep 19, 2014 4:31:02pm

re: #22 FemNaziBitch

CUTENESS BREAK!Feral Girl in her Flying Nun Pose

Look at those ears!!!! AWWWWEW!!

37 Kid A  Sep 19, 2014 4:31:26pm

re: #35 WhatEVs

How awful it was that Akin stuck his foot in his own mouth.

I submit that he knew exactly what he was saying. What’s the oldie about politicians and gaffes? It’s when a politician is telling the truth.

38 makeitstop  Sep 19, 2014 4:31:29pm

re: #32 darthstar

I just hope it wasn’t taken with an iPhone during a pap smear.

[ shudder ]

39 Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2014 4:31:42pm
40 ausador  Sep 19, 2014 4:33:29pm

Alouette is trying to corner the derp market, but I’m going to get my share while it lasts!

41 EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2014 4:33:41pm

re: #31 Bubblehead II

Typical DF. Drops a turd and then claim he has something else to do in the meat world when challenged. Classic troll behavior.

Would it be some kind of victory/validation if such a turd is dropped and not roundly condemned?

42 makeitstop  Sep 19, 2014 4:33:45pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

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When I see a picture of him smiling, I can almost hear him breathing through his mouth.

43 Justanotherhuman  Sep 19, 2014 4:34:25pm

There are people who should never show their teeth…

TA and JH are obviously 2 of those.

44 GeneJockey  Sep 19, 2014 4:34:50pm

re: #22 FemNaziBitch

CUTENESS BREAK!Feral Girl in her Flying Nun Pose

Awwwwww! They look like Greyhound ears!

Awwww, Man! You’re killin’ me!

45 WhatEVs  Sep 19, 2014 4:34:54pm

re: #37 Kid A

Oh, definitely. He spoke his truth, apparently not understanding how appalling his views are to sentient beings.

46 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 4:35:56pm

Friday Night Silliness
Youtube Video

47 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 4:36:42pm

The Important Things in this life:
Youtube Video

48 GeneJockey  Sep 19, 2014 4:36:42pm

re: #45 WhatEVs

Oh, definitely. He spoke his truth, apparently not understanding how appalling his views are to sentient beings.

Wait - was he the ‘Legitimate Rape’ guy, or the ‘Gift from God’ guy?

49 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 19, 2014 4:37:39pm

SpongeTodd SquareFace.

50 Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2014 4:37:40pm

51 WhatEVs  Sep 19, 2014 4:38:27pm

re: #44 GeneJockey

Awwwwww! They look like Greyhound ears!

Awwww, Man! You’re killin’ me!

What an adorable little thing. I’m swooning!!

52 Justanotherhuman  Sep 19, 2014 4:40:20pm
53 Bubblehead II  Sep 19, 2014 4:40:49pm

re: #41 EPR-radar

Would it be some kind of victory/validation if such a turd is dropped and not roundly condemned?

Probably, because in that event, his view point is (sadly) validated.

54 WhatEVs  Sep 19, 2014 4:41:56pm

re: #48 GeneJockey

Wait - was he the ‘Legitimate Rape’ guy, or the ‘Gift from God’ guy?

He spoke (out loud, to other people), the former, but you know he believes the later.

55 GeneJockey  Sep 19, 2014 4:43:14pm

re: #51 WhatEVs

What an adorable little thing. I’m swooning!!

Thanks! Adorable, yes. Little? Welllll…..

56 darthstar  Sep 19, 2014 4:43:25pm

Someone in the office got the iPhone 6 - looks exactly like the Galaxy S4
Someone else got the 6 plus - looks exactly like the Galaxy Note minus the stylus.

Early adopters are fun to watch for all of five minutes. After twenty minutes of people laying out all the different versions of iPhones side by side in the office, I was ready to scream.

57 goddamnedfrank  Sep 19, 2014 4:43:36pm

Hoft looks like he drinks an entire box of wine every day. I know there’s a big tungsten shift in that image but even still his face is pretty red in every photograph lately.

58 GeneJockey  Sep 19, 2014 4:45:22pm

re: #57 goddamnedfrank

Hoft looks like he drinks an entire box of wine every day. I know there’s a big tungsten shift in that image but even still his face is pretty red in every photograph lately.

Tungsten shift, you say? That must be what happened to my uncle’s nose. It wasn’t all the wine and whiskey.

59 makeitstop  Sep 19, 2014 4:48:01pm

re: #57 goddamnedfrank

Hoft looks like he drinks an entire box of wine every day. I know there’s a big tungsten shift in that image but even still his face is pretty red in every photograph lately.

Livin it up on that wingnut welfare. He’s probably pretty flush after the whole “blown eye socket” scam.

60 GeneJockey  Sep 19, 2014 4:48:21pm

re: #56 darthstar

Someone in the office got the iPhone 6 - looks exactly like the Galaxy S4
Someone else got the 6 plus - looks exactly like the Galaxy Note minus the stylus.

Early adopters are fun to watch for all of five minutes. After twenty minutes of people laying out all the different versions of iPhones side by side in the office, I was ready to scream.

Like other people’s vacation pictures…

61 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 4:50:33pm

Perfect for your FB:

62 EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2014 4:51:01pm

re: #59 makeitstop

Livin it up on that wingnut welfare. He’s probably pretty flush after the whole “blown eye socket” scam.

I find myself hoping that karma catches up with Mr. Hoft sooner rather than later. He is trying to incite riots with respect to the Ferguson mess.

63 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 4:51:54pm

re: #48 GeneJockey

Wait - was he the ‘Legitimate Rape’ guy, or the ‘Gift from God’ guy?

Compilation of Rape Quotes is here. Scroll down.

64 WhatEVs  Sep 19, 2014 4:52:04pm

re: #55 GeneJockey

Thanks! Adorable, yes. Little? Welllll…..

[Embedded image]

Littler than moi. :-)

65 darthstar  Sep 19, 2014 4:53:08pm

Because fuck you, it’s the internet.

66 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 4:53:27pm

Here is another of Rape Quote Graphics

67 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 4:54:35pm

re: #44 GeneJockey

Awwwwww! They look like Greyhound ears!

Awwww, Man! You’re killin’ me!

oooooh, ear scratches from meeeee!!!

68 GeneJockey  Sep 19, 2014 4:54:52pm

re: #65 darthstar

Because fuck you, it’s the internet.

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That’s just so wrong, on so many levels.

69 Justanotherhuman  Sep 19, 2014 4:55:05pm
70 EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2014 4:55:28pm

re: #61 FemNaziBitch

Sometimes the best parody is the self-parody:

RNC logo 2008

One still wonders what that elephant is going to screw next.

71 WhatEVs  Sep 19, 2014 4:55:50pm

re: #65 darthstar

Because fuck you, it’s the internet.

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That was…interesting.

72 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 4:56:17pm

re: #33 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

How did you meet her?

Friend of mine fosters rescue dogs. I went to her house to visit and took one look.

73 darthstar  Sep 19, 2014 4:56:23pm

re: #68 GeneJockey

That’s just so wrong, on so many levels.

She’s with-ch…with-something.

74 darthstar  Sep 19, 2014 4:57:06pm

WTF?

75 darthstar  Sep 19, 2014 4:57:27pm

Okay…what the fuck is going on at the White House?

76 GeneJockey  Sep 19, 2014 4:58:35pm

re: #66 FemNaziBitch

Here is another of Rape Quote Graphics

Jesus, they really try to tiptoe around the victim blaming/shaming while in fact stepping right in it, don’t they?

77 EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2014 4:59:02pm

re: #65 darthstar

Because fuck you, it’s the internet.

Where should I send the therapist bill for seeing this? //

78 Mike Lamb  Sep 19, 2014 4:59:18pm

re: #21 Kid A

What do you think these two wizards talked about?

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Legitimate things of course.

79 Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2014 5:00:00pm

Somebody jumped the fence at the White House.

80 darthstar  Sep 19, 2014 5:00:12pm
81 darthstar  Sep 19, 2014 5:00:40pm

re: #79 Charles Johnson

Somebody jumped the fence at the White House.

They should throw those people back over the fence before arresting them.

82 GeneJockey  Sep 19, 2014 5:01:02pm

re: #74 darthstar

WTF?

[Embedded content]

He does not appear to be in a lighthearted mood.

83 EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2014 5:01:46pm

re: #81 darthstar

They should throw those people back over the fence before arresting them.

The Secret service may need to take lessons from Ferguson PD if they catch the perp without blowing him away. /////

84 Bubblehead II  Sep 19, 2014 5:02:06pm

Night Lizard. DF. Take a deep hard look into who you really are. After that, Decide, do I belong on LGF, or Stormfront

85 Gus  Sep 19, 2014 5:02:41pm

re: #80 darthstar

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Is that Mark Knoller in the back on the right?

86 Gus  Sep 19, 2014 5:03:14pm

re: #74 darthstar

WTF?

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Oops, meant this one WRT to Knoller.

87 Mike Lamb  Sep 19, 2014 5:03:40pm

re: #84 Bubblehead II

Night Lizard. DF. Take a deep hard look into who you really are. After that, Decide, do I belong ion LGF, or Stormfront

The fee fees, they have been hurt.

88 Bubblehead II  Sep 19, 2014 5:04:32pm

re: #87 Mike Lamb

The fee fees, they have been hurt.

Mine? or his?n pls expain.

89 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 5:07:56pm

re: #8 Bubblehead II

You know, I don’t like to be the guy who pee’s in the pool. But has anyone seen DF? Since this morning.? Ya know, the why we should support Uganda post.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Then (as usual, he ran a way) when confronted.

NEVER will I support a country that is so backward on human rights.

People who value security over human rights have forgotten the lessons of WWII.

There is a meme—old video --when will they come for me? or something like that.

90 Justanotherhuman  Sep 19, 2014 5:09:03pm

Let’s hope this holds…

91 Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2014 5:09:44pm
92 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 5:10:14pm

The loyalities seem to be

1-Profit —defense of greed
2-Security -defense of xenophobia

both have been cornered by the Whacko’s in the GOP.

93 GeneJockey  Sep 19, 2014 5:10:49pm

re: #89 FemNaziBitch

NEVER will I support a country that is so backward on human rights.

People who value security over human rights have forgotten the lessons of WWII.

There is a meme—old video --when will they come for me? or something like that.

Even leaving that aside - Who could we possibly be so afraid of that a government that wants to execute LGBT folks is preferable?

94 Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2014 5:11:02pm

What the hell gets into somebody’s head that would make them jump over the White House fence?

No way this can possibly end well.

95 Mike Lamb  Sep 19, 2014 5:12:30pm

re: #88 Bubblehead II

Mine? or his?n pls expain.

His. This is about the time when he whines about people being mean to him about what he says.

96 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 5:12:33pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

What the hell gets into somebody’s head that would make them jump over the White House fence?

No way this can possibly end well.

“I did it!!!!!, hey, look what I did …I did It, they said it couldn’t be done!!!”

97 lawhawk  Sep 19, 2014 5:13:37pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

Infamy. They think they’re going to be [in]famous. Mostly, they’re just going to be in jail.

98 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 5:13:42pm

re: #93 GeneJockey

Even leaving that aside - Who could we possibly be so afraid of that a government that wants to execute LGBT folks is preferable?

Why do we need Uganda? This is what I think is strange.

There are a few Whacko Christian groups that just LOVE Uganda. Perhaps, to individuals who know those in that realm, Uganda is important.

99 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 5:14:58pm

100 Justanotherhuman  Sep 19, 2014 5:15:26pm

Another view of the fence jumper. Looks like a real pinhead.

instagram.com

101 stpaulbear  Sep 19, 2014 5:15:51pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

What the hell gets into somebody’s head that would make them jump over the White House fence?

No way this can possibly end well.

Autograph hounds.

102 GeneJockey  Sep 19, 2014 5:16:47pm

re: #101 stpaulbear

Autograph hounds.

“Smithers? Release the hounds.”

103 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 5:16:50pm

re: #98 FemNaziBitch

Why do we need Uganda? This is what I think is strange.

There are a few Whacko Christian groups that just LOVE Uganda. Perhaps, to individuals who know those in that realm, Uganda is important.

My personal conspiracy theory is that the Religious Leaders from the US Churches that are so gung-ho on Uganda are actually profiting from the countries resources.

Embezzlement from the (insert bad word here) for Jesus.

104 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 5:17:47pm

heehee

Did you say Hounds?

105 Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2014 5:18:00pm
106 GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 19, 2014 5:18:12pm

re: #91 Charles Johnson

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Jim Hoft checking his voter registration. CCJ digging up dirt on a relative-by-marriage.

107 calochortus  Sep 19, 2014 5:18:21pm

re: #95 Mike Lamb

His. This is about the time when he whines about people being mean to him about what he says.

I feel a bit sorry for him-if you need to preserve the status quo in Uganda in order to keep your world stable, you have issues. But I realize telling him to ‘buck up’ (or something) won’t help.

108 EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2014 5:18:36pm

re: #89 FemNaziBitch

NEVER will I support a country that is so backward on human rights.

People who value security over human rights have forgotten the lessons of WWII.

There is a meme—old video --when will they come for me? or something like that.

Niemoller never gets dated in this context, especially as we all see US conservatives frantically searching for scapegoats:

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

en.wikipedia.org

A particularly entertaining nugget from the Wikipedia link is this: “An American version delivered by a congressman in 1968 anachronistically omits the Communists and includes the industrialists, who were not persecuted by the Nazis.”

Unfortunately my Google-fu on a Friday evening is not equal to the task of tracking down this congressman.

109 calochortus  Sep 19, 2014 5:19:43pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

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That’s true journalism. Whomever pays me the most gets the info.
/

110 Bubblehead II  Sep 19, 2014 5:20:14pm

re: #95 Mike Lamb

His. This is about the time when he whines about people being mean to him about what he says.

Yep, the cut and run is getting tiring.

111 Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2014 5:20:40pm

re: #100 Justanotherhuman

Another view of the fence jumper. Looks like a real pinhead.

instagram.com

They have to act like he’s strapped with bombs.

112 Justanotherhuman  Sep 19, 2014 5:21:02pm

re: #103 FemNaziBitch

My personal conspiracy theory is that the Religious Leaders from the US Churches that are so gung-ho on Uganda are actually profiting from the countries resources.

Embezzlement from the (insert bad word here) for Jesus.

Scott Lively has been at it a long time. Here’s a March 2014 Mother Jones piece on him.

motherjones.com

113 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 5:21:43pm

re: #22 FemNaziBitch

CUTENESS BREAK!Feral Girl in her Flying Nun Pose

When I took her for her first Vet appoint, my vet asked “Why did you get a puppy?” I have 2 other dogs.

I replied. “Because she was cute”.

Why does anyone get a puppy?

114 Mike Lamb  Sep 19, 2014 5:24:29pm

re: #110 Bubblehead II

Yep, the cut and run is getting tiring.

No, it’s not the running…It’s the “what for you down ding me?”

115 calochortus  Sep 19, 2014 5:25:00pm

re: #112 Justanotherhuman

Scott Lively has been at it a long time. Here’s a March 2014 Mother Jones piece on him.

motherjones.com

Just a question. From the article:

“the gay movement was an “evil institution” that sought to “defeat the marriage-based society” and crush anyone who stood up to its nefarious agenda.”

And that’s why they want to be able to get married?

116 dog philosopher  Sep 19, 2014 5:25:31pm

i am just full of old fashioned 20th century slang

“he’s really johnny on the spot”

“hold your horses, buckaroo”

“oh, you’re just buttering me up”

i might as well wear a straw boater and a bowtie

117 stpaulbear  Sep 19, 2014 5:27:09pm

re: #103 FemNaziBitch

My personal conspiracy theory is that the Religious Leaders from the US Churches that are so gung-ho on Uganda are actually profiting from the countries resources.

Embezzlement from the (insert bad word here) for Jesus.

Joe My God is a really good website for following the Christianists who’ve been losing the battles over gay marriage in the US so now they’re working with countries like Uganda and Russia to export their hate in the form of ‘kill-the-gays’ legislation. They don’t have much on the subject right now (there’s been so much other stuff happening), but it’s a good site for keeping up with Christian haters (by ‘good’, I mean incredibly depressing).

118 prairiefire  Sep 19, 2014 5:28:03pm

Happy Friday, lizards! I’m getting all gussied up to go into town to see a man about a horse.

119 Justanotherhuman  Sep 19, 2014 5:30:18pm

re: #115 calochortus

Just a question. From the article:

And that’s why they want to be able to get married?

I don’t think any LGBT folks think of themselves as an actual “Institution” with an “agenda” of any kind, either. : )

120 Justanotherhuman  Sep 19, 2014 5:31:29pm

re: #116 dog philosopher

i am just full of old fashioned 20th century slang

“he’s really johnny on the spot”

“hold your horses, buckaroo”

“oh, you’re just buttering me up”

i might as well wear a straw boater and a bowtie

23 skiddoo!

121 dog philosopher  Sep 19, 2014 5:33:07pm

i had to get a new gig so i could make enough bread to rent a pad that my chick would dig

can you dig it?

122 dog philosopher  Sep 19, 2014 5:33:56pm

re: #120 Justanotherhuman

23 skiddoo!

hey! i’m living the life of reilly! i’m in like flynn!

123 calochortus  Sep 19, 2014 5:36:18pm

re: #119 Justanotherhuman

I don’t think any LGBT folks think of themselves as an actual “Institution” with an “agenda” of any kind, either. : )

But surely you’ve seen some version of this agenda?

124 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 5:40:36pm

re: #123 calochortus

But surely you’ve seen some version of this agenda?

Bob help humans if we ever actually meet off-worlders.

125 Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2014 5:41:30pm

re: #118 prairiefire

Happy Friday, lizards! I’m getting all gussied up to go into town to see a man about a horse.

You go girl!!

126 Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 19, 2014 5:41:51pm

re: #121 dog philosopher

Far out, man.

127 Justanotherhuman  Sep 19, 2014 5:43:28pm

re: #123 calochortus

But surely you’ve seen some version of this agenda?

Haha, and the “theater” had better be a Broadway musical with plenty of show tunes. : )

128 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 5:43:33pm

129 EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2014 5:45:05pm

re: #108 EPR-radar

A particularly entertaining nugget from the Wikipedia link is this: “An American version delivered by a congressman in 1968 anachronistically omits the Communists and includes the industrialists, who were not persecuted by the Nazis.”

Unfortunately my Google-fu on a Friday evening is not equal to the task of tracking down this congressman.

Spoke too soon. This version is from page 31636 of Congressional record volume 114 from 1968.

When Hitler attacked the Jews, I was not a Jew, therefore, I was not
concerned. And when Hitler attacked the Catholics, I was not a Catholic,
and therefore, I was not concerned. And when Hitler attacked the unions
and industrialists, I was not a member of the unions and I was not concerned.
Then, Hitler attacked me and the Protestant church—and there was nobody left to be concerned.

The relevant congressman is Henry Reuss (D) and he is quoting remarks by a Mr. Samuels made at a recent rally.

So this is not an early example of a wingnut congressman rewriting history. Instead it is an example of Mr. Samuels knowing his US audience and omitting the inconvenient bit about the Nazis going after Communists or even socialists.

130 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 5:45:51pm

131 Stanley Sea  Sep 19, 2014 5:45:52pm

I’m out to a pool party. Have a great night LGF.

132 wrenchwench  Sep 19, 2014 5:47:54pm

Later, lizards.

133 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 5:48:39pm

Remember the character, Ernest T. Bass? From the Andy Griffiths show.

This is how I picture the man who jumped the fence at the White House.

134 freetoken  Sep 19, 2014 5:49:02pm

Ebola scares worldwide - will it get worse?

The West ignores the stories of Africans in the middle of the Ebola outbreak

The hysteria is also fueling racism beyond the continent. In Germany, an African woman who recently traveled to Kenya — far from the affected countries — fell ill with a stomach virus at work; the entire building was locked down. In Brussels, an African man had a simple nosebleed at a shopping mall, and the store where it happened was sterilized. In Seoul, a bar put up a sign saying, “We apologize but due to the Ebola Virus we are not accepting Africans at the moment.” Here in the United States, each time I have been to a doctor’s office since the outbreak, I have noticed an anxious look on the faces of the assistants that dissipates only when I say that I haven’t been to my country recently.

135 calochortus  Sep 19, 2014 5:49:24pm

Time to make dinner. BBL

136 dog philosopher  Sep 19, 2014 5:50:14pm

re: #128 FemNaziBitch

[Embedded image]

GOP SMALL GOVERNMENT AGENDA:

1) allow government to control women’s pregnancies

2) establish a force to track down all 11 million estimated illegal aliens and forcibly deport them

3) pass numerous new laws requiring detailed documentation in order to vote

4) propose and pass an act vastly increasing government surveillance activity

5) pass a national law defining what kinds of marriage are allowed and which are forbidden

6) complain piteously about how business are enslaved by pernicious laws protecting the health of their workers and citizens in general

137 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 19, 2014 5:50:16pm

I’m trying to watch a movie on Netflix (Rage w/ Nicholas Cage). It’s looking more and more like a recycled version of “Taken”, but Cage is no Liam Neeson. I’m going to give it 30 more minutes, then maybe vacuum the rugs or something exciting.

RBS

138 freetoken  Sep 19, 2014 5:51:00pm

I see the wingnut sites are indeed rolling with “Obola”.

139 Justanotherhuman  Sep 19, 2014 5:52:04pm

re: #134 freetoken

Ebola scares worldwide - will it get worse?

The West ignores the stories of Africans in the middle of the Ebola outbreak

That really saddened me.

140 dog philosopher  Sep 19, 2014 5:52:58pm

re: #136 dog philosopher

GOP SMALL GOVERNMENT AGENDA:

1) allow government to control women’s pregnancies

2) establish a force to track down all 11 million estimated illegal aliens and forcibly deport them

3) pass numerous new laws requiring detailed documentation in order to vote

4) propose and pass an act vastly increasing government surveillance activity

5) pass a national law defining what kinds of marriage are allowed and which are forbidden

6) complain piteously about how business are enslaved by pernicious laws protecting the health of their workers and citizens in general

oh, i left out passing restrictions on damages awarded in lawsuits, see “tort reform”

141 Decatur Deb  Sep 19, 2014 5:54:32pm

re: #94 Charles Johnson

What the hell gets into somebody’s head that would make them jump over the White House fence?

No way this can possibly end well.

Worked for them at the ICP concert.

142 I Stand With Big Sodomy!  Sep 19, 2014 5:54:43pm

143 EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2014 5:54:52pm

re: #138 freetoken

I see the wingnut sites are indeed rolling with “Obola”.

On one of the pages, I commented that RWNJs should approve of Ebola transmission taking hold in the US —- it would give them something else to blame Obama for, and that is all that they care about.

144 Decatur Deb  Sep 19, 2014 5:55:31pm

re: #121 dog philosopher

i had to get a new gig so i could make enough bread to rent a pad that my chick would dig

can you dig it?

I’m hep.

145 stpaulbear  Sep 19, 2014 5:57:58pm

re: #144 Decatur Deb

I’m hep.

Solid.

(Does anyone who didn’t watch ‘The Mod Squad’ even know that one?)

146 Targetpractice  Sep 19, 2014 6:00:01pm

re: #121 dog philosopher

i had to get a new gig so i could make enough bread to rent a pad that my chick would dig

can you dig it?

Youtube Video

147 Bear  Sep 19, 2014 6:00:18pm

Any one recall the Q count?
1Q, 2Q, 3Q, 4***.

From 1944 era.

148 Justanotherhuman  Sep 19, 2014 6:03:32pm

Two stories from the NYT, highlighting fear and poverty in Sierra Leone and Guinea as Ebola spreads there:

nytimes.com

nytimes.com

And a heart-breaking video: nytimes.com

149 Decatur Deb  Sep 19, 2014 6:06:59pm

re: #147 Bear

Any one recall the Q count?
1Q, 2Q, 3Q, 4***.

From 1944 era.

Couldn’t yet count in ‘44.

150 Justanotherhuman  Sep 19, 2014 6:15:28pm

re: #149 Decatur Deb

Couldn’t yet count in ‘44.

In 20 yrs, people will be making fun of the Iphone 6.

151 Bear  Sep 19, 2014 6:17:10pm

The Q chant was very risque then.

152 GeneJockey  Sep 19, 2014 6:17:13pm

re: #116 dog philosopher

i am just full of old fashioned 20th century slang

“he’s really johnny on the spot”

“hold your horses, buckaroo”

“oh, you’re just buttering me up”

i might as well wear a straw boater and a bowtie

You’d probably look real spiffy!

153 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 19, 2014 6:20:02pm

re: #150 Justanotherhuman

In 20 2 yrs, people will be making fun of the Iphone 6.

FTFY. It’s the Tao Of Apple.

154 teleskiguy  Sep 19, 2014 6:22:07pm

Did James Woods just do a Twitter flounce?

155 allegro  Sep 19, 2014 6:23:44pm

So Greg Abbott is still a lying ass. But his wife is Hispanic so the “third world” of SW Texas brown people should vote for him.

156 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 6:24:45pm

re: #154 teleskiguy

Did James Woods just do a Twitter flounce?

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Decent actor, terrible political analyst.

157 allegro  Sep 19, 2014 6:25:21pm

re: #154 teleskiguy

Did James Woods just do a Twitter flounce?

[Embedded content]

His time on Twitter showed me that James Woods is a fucknoodle.

158 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 6:28:54pm

re: #89 FemNaziBitch

NEVER will I support a country that is so backward on human rights.

People who value security over human rights have forgotten the lessons of WWII.

There is a meme—old video --when will they come for me? or something like that.

Best statement I’ve seen in a while. I would add that about the Cold War too. Too often we just chose whoever was Anti-Communist rather than who had a genuine support for human rights. And frankly it’s what has led to many problems.

159 Amory Blaine  Sep 19, 2014 6:30:48pm

The WH vegetable garden is probably bursting with fresh veggies.

160 teleskiguy  Sep 19, 2014 6:31:31pm
161 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 6:34:47pm

So anyhow caught the episode of the Roosevelts from last night. I am a FDR fan mostly but like Eleanor disappointed that he did not act forcefully on lynching and I think the court packing scheme was wrong. Unlike the people interviewed though, I did not take issue with him campaigning against Southern conservative incumbents. Minor props to George Will for admitting that the Southern Democrats were conservatives though.

162 sagehen  Sep 19, 2014 6:35:47pm

So I’ve started watching some of this season’s new shows (some aired, some that Hulu is putting on preview) — preliminary report:

The Mysteries of Laura — if you like Debra Messing, you’ll like it. If you don’t, you won’t. The writing, supporting characters, case of the week, etc is generic cop show.

The Red Band Society — cuter than the description would seem to indicate (ensemble show set at a nicer-than-most hospital, a group of seriously ill teens bonding as friends). Octavia Spencer is their nurse. Has promise.

A to Z — generic rom-com that wishes it were “How I Met Your Mother”. It might survive if it’s up against weak enough competition, but not going to be a hit.

Selfie — Karen Gillam (as Eliza Dooley), John Cho (as Henry Higenbottom). “My Fair Lady” in a present-day pharmaceutical company (she’s in sales, he’s in marketing). I recommend. Concept, cast, writing, all top notch.

Z Nation — a *very* different take on zombies. DJ Qualls as the military comms guy staying on the job in his protected location, while everything else goes to shit. These zombies move quick, and have enough brain to strategize.

163 stpaulbear  Sep 19, 2014 6:39:50pm

re: #150 Justanotherhuman

In 20 yrs, people will be making fun of the Iphone 6.

In 20 years I’ll still be using my Nokia 6010. It will still work just fine.

164 LadyBehir  Sep 19, 2014 6:40:10pm
165 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 6:41:07pm

re: #164 LadyBehir

Homosexual Agenda

What? Where’s “Ruin foundation of American family and conspire with Satan” there?

166 sagehen  Sep 19, 2014 6:41:21pm

re: #164 LadyBehir

Homosexual Agenda

Walk the dog. Brunch.

167 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 6:42:51pm

re: #166 sagehen

Walk the dog. Brunch.

Breathe air.

168 EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2014 6:43:22pm

re: #158 HappyWarrior

Best statement I’ve seen in a while. I would add that about the Cold War too. Too often we just chose whoever was Anti-Communist rather than who had a genuine support for human rights. And frankly it’s what has led to many problems.

The US record in the cold war was abysmal. The Berlin airlift and Marshall plan were clearly good actions, and the Korean war is also a net credit. But the negatives (e.g., Vietnam, Iran, Chile, Cuba, etc.) were appalling.

Pretty early on, the failure of communism to deliver on its promises was clear to anyone except blinkered zealots. With that background, the ideological victory vs. communism could be won simply by making capitalism work well enough for a large enough fraction of the population.

As we’ve seen since the fall of the USSR, this is apparently too much to ask.

169 GeneJockey  Sep 19, 2014 6:45:13pm

re: #168 EPR-radar

The US record in the cold war was abysmal. The Berlin airlift and Marshall plan were clearly good actions, and the Korean war is also a net credit. But the negatives (e.g., Vietnam, Iran, Chile, Cuba, etc.) were appalling.

Pretty early on, the failure of communism to deliver on its promises was clear to anyone except blinkered zealots. With that background, the ideological victory vs. communism could be won simply by making capitalism work well enough for a large enough fraction of the population.

As we’ve seen since the fall of the USSR, this is apparently too much to ask.

Well, shit - we beat communism. Why do we have to keep working for everyone?
//

170 Belafon  Sep 19, 2014 6:46:19pm

re: #168 EPR-radar

Pretty early on, the failure of communism to deliver on its promises was clear to anyone except blinkered zealots.

Do you have quotes from back then supporting this?

171 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 6:46:30pm

re: #168 EPR-radar

The US record in the cold war was abysmal. The Berlin airlift and Marshall plan were clearly good actions, and the Korean war is also a net credit. But the negatives (e.g., Vietnam, Iran, Chile, Cuba, etc.) were appalling.

Pretty early on, the failure of communism to deliver on its promises was clear to anyone except blinkered zealots. With that background, the ideological victory vs. communism could be won simply by making capitalism work well enough for a large enough fraction of the population.

As we’ve seen since the fall of the USSR, this is apparently too much to ask.

Yep and I’ll throw another country’s name out there given the problems we still have with it: Iran. The Mossadeq coup should go down as Ike’s biggest blunder as president. Mossadeq wasn’t a communist and more importantly he was not despised by the Iranian public.

172 EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2014 6:47:20pm

re: #169 GeneJockey

Well, shit - we beat communism. Why do we have to keep working for everyone?
//

The arms race bankrupted the USSR before it would have bankrupted the US. That’s basically what the US contributed to the fall of the USSR.

Glorious, isn’t it?

173 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 6:47:49pm

re: #172 EPR-radar

The arms race bankrupted the USSR before it would have bankrupted the US. That’s basically what the US contributed to the fall of the USSR.

Glorious, isn’t it?

Fiscal conservative Reaganomics fuck yeah! //

174 ausador  Sep 19, 2014 6:47:49pm

It is getting so tough to find high quality derp anymore…

***Picture in linked tweet NSFW***

175 stpaulbear  Sep 19, 2014 6:48:49pm

re: #164 LadyBehir

Homosexual Agenda

Giving your boyfriend a big hug and a kiss on the sidewalk while a bunch of cars are stuck at a stoplight has always been kind of a fun part of the gay adgenda (especially when you both look like lumberjacks).

176 EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2014 6:50:16pm

re: #170 Belafon

Do you have quotes from back then supporting this?

I’m not prepared to prove this with primary documents, but I think it true that after WWII, communism was never a major political threat in the US. There was a Communist fringe that was blown out of proportion in anti-Red hysteria.

177 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 6:51:05pm

re: #161 HappyWarrior

So anyhow caught the episode of the Roosevelts from last night. I am a FDR fan mostly but like Eleanor disappointed that he did not act forcefully on lynching and I think the court packing scheme was wrong. Unlike the people interviewed though, I did not take issue with him campaigning against Southern conservative incumbents. Minor props to George Will for admitting that the Southern Democrats were conservatives though.

FDR was an asshole to women, IIRC.

178 calochortus  Sep 19, 2014 6:52:13pm

re: #170 Belafon

Do you have quotes from back then supporting this?

Well, there is Emma Goldman’s opinion

179 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 6:52:23pm

re: #177 FemNaziBitch

FDR was an asshole to women, IIRC.

Yeah he was. Not a fan of how he treated Eleanor.

180 EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2014 6:52:45pm

re: #171 HappyWarrior

Yep and I’ll throw another country’s name out there given the problems we still have with it: Iran. The Mossadeq coup should go down as Ike’s biggest blunder as president. Mossadeq wasn’t a communist and more importantly he was not despised by the Iranian public.

Indeed. That’s exactly why I had Iran as #2 on my list. The 1979 Iranian revolution was textbook blowback, especially after the US decided to protect the Shah.

181 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 6:53:36pm

re: #180 EPR-radar

Indeed. That’s exactly why I had Iran as #2 on my list. The 1979 Iranian revolution was textbook blowback, especially after the US decided to protect the Shah.

Oh my apologies. Don’t know I missed Iran on your list. You’re absolutely right.

182 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 6:54:03pm

Anyhow though Eleanor is my most admired of the Roosevelts. Terrific lady.

183 GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 19, 2014 6:54:42pm

re: #137 RealityBasedSteve

I’m trying to watch a movie on Netflix (Rage w/ Nicholas Cage). It’s looking more and more like a recycled version of “Taken”, but Cage is no Liam Neeson. I’m going to give it 30 more minutes, then maybe vacuum the rugs or something exciting.

RBS

Watch Clue instead. :)

184 EPR-radar  Sep 19, 2014 6:56:27pm

re: #181 HappyWarrior

Oh my apologies. Don’t know I missed Iran on your list. You’re absolutely right.

No problem. One of the best ironies in recent US history I’m aware of is that in the famous letter by Ike dissing the more backwards Republicans as being stupid and negligible in number, he also boasts of the US-backed coup in Iran as a major achievement for his administration.

185 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 6:56:49pm

re: #182 HappyWarrior

Anyhow though Eleanor is my most admired of the Roosevelts. Terrific lady.

It would have been nice, if at that time, the Roosevelt Women were also groomed for greatness (as Kennedy Women are today).

Think what Bamie or Eleanor or even Sara Delano could have accomplished.

Elliott’s daughter, Anna Eleanor Roosevelt, stated in her autobiography that Bamie had “an able man’s mind.”

or Teddy’s daughter, Alice.

186 RealityBasedSteve  Sep 19, 2014 6:57:44pm

re: #183 GlutenFreeJesus

Watch Clue instead. :)

I’ve given up on it. I’m playing with a camera and just chilling out. Think it’s going to be a short evening, I had a long week this week.

RBS

187 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 6:59:31pm

re: #185 FemNaziBitch

It would have been nice, if at that time, the Roosevelt Women were also groomed for greatness (as Kennedy Women are today).

Think what Bamie or Eleanor or even Sara Delano could have accomplished.

or Teddy’s daughter, Alice.

Alice sounds like a real character. Maybe even more so than her Dad. I was looking at her wiki biography. And apparently McCarthy called her Alice at a party and she said “The policeman in my neighborhood and my garbage man call me Alice but you may not.” Heh interesting lady, I think she was one of those interesting people who grew more radical with age.

188 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 6:59:38pm

re: #178 calochortus

Well, there is Emma Goldman’s opinion

Interesting none of her writings have been deemed worthy of Audible —or her biographies.

189 GlutenFreeJesus  Sep 19, 2014 6:59:59pm

re: #186 RealityBasedSteve

I’ve given up on it. I’m playing with a camera and just chilling out. Think it’s going to be a short evening, I had a long week this week.

RBS

Queue it! :)

190 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 7:00:04pm

re: #184 EPR-radar

No problem. One of the best ironies in recent US history I’m aware of is that in the famous letter by Ike dissing the more backwards Republicans as being stupid and negligible in number, he also boasts of the US-backed coup in Iran as a major achievement for his administration.

I like Ike generally but man damn that was a mistake. And funnily enough the CIA station chief was Kim Roosevelt, Teddy’s grandson.

191 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 7:01:05pm

re: #187 HappyWarrior

Alice sounds like a real character. Maybe even more so than her Dad. I was looking at her wiki biography. And apparently McCarthy called her Alice at a party and she said “The policeman in my neighborhood and my garbage man call me Alice but you may not.” Heh interesting lady, I think she was one of those interesting people who grew more radical with age.

I think she resented not being able to live life as a human being —just as a woman. No advanced education, or opportunity for adventure . She seemed to be her Dad’s heir apparent, but was stifled by the family.

192 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 7:01:19pm

What do you all make of the dispute between the Hyde Park and Oyster Bay Roosevelts though? I think the Oyster Bay ones were a little bit jealous of FDR being successful in politics where they could not be. TR Jr ended up being quite heroic in his service in WWII. Only general that landed on an Operation Overlord beach IIRC but he wasn’t the political leader his father was.

193 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 7:02:12pm

re: #192 HappyWarrior

What do you all make of the dispute between the Hyde Park and Oyster Bay Roosevelts though? I think the Oyster Bay ones were a little bit jealous of FDR being successful in politics where they could not be. TR Jr ended up being quite heroic in his service in WWII. Only general that landed on an Operation Overlord beach IIRC but he wasn’t the political leader his father was.

Competition within a small gene pool is a sad thing.

194 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 7:02:23pm

re: #191 FemNaziBitch

I think she resented not being able to live life as a human being —just as a woman. No advanced education, or opportunity for adventure . She seemed to be her Dad’s heir apparent, but was stifled by the family.

Yeah sounds right to me. Too many people like that who were born a generation or so too early.

195 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 7:03:00pm

re: #193 FemNaziBitch

Competition within a small gene pool is a sad thing.

It is. At least it was peaceful though. In the past, there would have been deaths.

196 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 7:05:27pm

re: #195 HappyWarrior

It is. At least it was peaceful though. In the past, there would have been deaths.

Duels!

197 Bear  Sep 19, 2014 7:07:26pm

Who knows What General Roosevelt would have done had he not bin killed in France.

198 Belafon  Sep 19, 2014 7:08:50pm

re: #192 HappyWarrior

I was very impressed with how the Roosevelts clans volunteered in WW2: Franklin and Eleanor’s three sons, Teddy’s 4 sons, and a number of Teddy’s grandsons (I don’t remember how many they said).

Think of the sacrifice Romney’s children gave to this country.

199 ausador  Sep 19, 2014 7:09:09pm

Unfortunately true…

200 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 19, 2014 7:09:58pm

re: #134 freetoken

Ebola scares worldwide - will it get worse?

The West ignores the stories of Africans in the middle of the Ebola outbreak

People seem to have no idea how huge a continent Africa is. Being from Africa is not quite the same as being from. say, Casper, Wyoming.

201 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 7:11:04pm

re: #198 Belafon

I was very impressed with how the Roosevelts clans volunteered in WW2: Franklin and Eleanor’s three sons, Teddy’s 4 sons, and a number of Teddy’s grandsons (I don’t remember how many they said).

Think of the sacrifice Romney’s children gave to this country.

Hey! They served their country by helping Mitt’s campaign. // But yeah sarc aside, that family’s service to their country is very admirable. Plus FDR’s one daughter was a nurse in WWI. I was surprised they didn’t mention it in the series but I had read that FDR wanted to enlist during the Spanish American war but he came down sick.

202 Justanotherhuman  Sep 19, 2014 7:11:07pm

Going to watch new episodes of “Foyle’s War” on Netflix. Love Michael Kitchen, so later Lizards!

Have a great evening, everyone.

203 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 7:13:23pm

re: #202 Justanotherhuman

Going to watch new episodes of “Foyle’s War” on Netflix. Love Michael Kitchen, so later Lizards!

Have a great evening, everyone.

Great Series!

I binged on it a couple of weeks ago.

204 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 7:16:05pm

Wonder what Burns will tackle next. I loved the Civil War, Baseball, Prohibition, and now Roosevelts documentaries. Need to see the one on Jazz, the West, and National Parks. He picks good topics. Like most documentaries, they make you want to learn more about the subject. Definitely plan on tackling a TR bio after this. I read H.W Brands FDR biography and would recommend it.

205 Lumberhead  Sep 19, 2014 7:17:38pm

The authorities might be close to getting the PSP trooper shooting suspect. Two townships in my county are in lockdown (everyone stay inside, lock doors & windows, stay away from windows, etc.) and there are tons of law enforcement swarming that area. Unfortunately, something similar happened last night and no reward. The local news does seem to be conveying a greater sense of urgency so maybe it’ll happen tonight. There’s been a warning scroll on the bottom of the tv for the last two hours.
I really feel for the people over there because their lives have really been disrupted. Last night many were kept out of their homes and were sent to a fire house that had been set up as a shelter. After a week we could really use our lives getting back to normal.

206 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 7:17:46pm

re: #196 FemNaziBitch

Duels!

Duels! and fratricide.

207 calochortus  Sep 19, 2014 7:20:43pm

re: #204 HappyWarrior

Wonder what Burns will tackle next. .

He has several projects going, including a Jackie Robinson film coming out next year.

208 FemNaziBitch  Sep 19, 2014 7:21:41pm

bbl

209 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 7:21:55pm

re: #207 calochortus

He has several projects going, including a Jackie Robinson film coming out next year.

Hemingway. That sounds great. I was in Pamplona this summer. Got to see the Running of the Bulls and visited one of his favorite haunts there. I do need to read more of his work though.

210 sagehen  Sep 19, 2014 7:28:46pm

re: #198 Belafon

I was very impressed with how the Roosevelts clans volunteered in WW2: Franklin and Eleanor’s three sons, Teddy’s 4 sons, and a number of Teddy’s grandsons (I don’t remember how many they said).

Think of the sacrifice Romney’s children gave to this country.

I’m not sure how many “volunteered” for that one.

The 1942 draft called up every able-bodied man 18-34. All of them. The entire student body of the Ivy League. All of major league baseball. Movie stars. Everybody. The only healthy men that age who didn’t end up in uniform on battlefields were the ones with special skills who were just as drafted, but in different capacities.

(there were also plenty of volunteers too young to be drafted, too old to be drafted, women, and the not so able-abled, but I think the Roosevelts were all of age to have been called up)

211 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 7:31:08pm

My grandfather who was 29 at the time of the 42 draft wanted to sign up but they wouldn’t let him because of his back. I have no idea what branch he wanted to go in or if he would have been commissioned (I assume so, he was a college grad and had been at the DOL for seven years at the time). I’m one of the few people in my generation that doesn’t have a WWII vet for a grandpa. My other grandpa who was much younger than my aforementioned grandpa was 12 when Pearl Harbor happened and later served in Korea. His older brothers were in WWII though as was his brother in law, my great uncle.

212 ausador  Sep 19, 2014 7:31:16pm
213 calochortus  Sep 19, 2014 7:31:25pm

re: #209 HappyWarrior

Hemingway. That sounds great. I was in Pamplona this summer. Got to see the Running of the Bulls and visited one of his favorite haunts there. I do need to read more of his work though.

I haven’t read any Hemingway in years. Never enjoyed him all that much, but that’s just me.

214 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 7:32:53pm

re: #213 calochortus

I haven’t read any Hemingway in years. Never enjoyed him all that much, but that’s just me.

To each their own. I loved The Sun Also Rises

215 Belafon  Sep 19, 2014 7:34:17pm

re: #212 ausador

From what I read somewhere else, Abbott didn’t have an answer when Davis asked him about calling the Rio Grande Valley, where they debate was, a third world country.

216 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 7:36:24pm

re: #215 Belafon

From what I read somewhere else, Abbott didn’t have an answer when Davis asked him about calling the Rio Grande Valley, where they debate was, a third world country.

How’s she polling? I assume it’s an uphill battle for her. I am not optimistic at her chances but I hope she at least can give the dicks a scare.

217 ausador  Sep 19, 2014 7:36:36pm

re: #211 HappyWarrior

My grandfather who was 29 at the time of the 42 draft wanted to sign up but they wouldn’t let him because of his back. I have no idea what branch he wanted to go in or if he would have been commissioned (I assume so, he was a college grad and had been at the DOL for seven years at the time). I’m one of the few people in my generation that doesn’t have a WWII vet for a grandpa. My other grandpa who was much younger than my aforementioned grandpa was 12 when Pearl Harbor happened and later served in Korea. His older brothers were in WWII though as was his brother in law, my great uncle.

My Grandfather was an illegal immigrant from Spain via Cuba who was running a Spanish restaurant in Beckley West Virginia. The only way the war affected him was the registration act. He had to close shop and take the entire family to New York city for almost a month in 1942 in order to get their “papers” in order. I have pictures from the trip…

218 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 19, 2014 7:36:45pm

re: #211 HappyWarrior

My grandfather who was 29 at the time of the 42 draft wanted to sign up but they wouldn’t let him because of his back. I have no idea what branch he wanted to go in or if he would have been commissioned (I assume so, he was a college grad and had been at the DOL for seven years at the time). I’m one of the few people in my generation that doesn’t have a WWII vet for a grandpa. My other grandpa who was much younger than my aforementioned grandpa was 12 when Pearl Harbor happened and later served in Korea. His older brothers were in WWII though as was his brother in law, my great uncle.

My dad got an exemption because he was the only financial support for his mother. Also, he had a heart murmur. So, he did civilian duty with the Army Signal Corps installing and repairing aircraft radios. My elder maternal uncle was a scrawny little guy, but he got drafted and sent to the Aleutians for bomb disposal duty. His younger brother, though, had a bad stutter and was classified 4F. He ended up serving in the merchant marine.

Oh, and my mom worked in a factory that made aircraft parts. I’ve forgotten the name.

219 ausador  Sep 19, 2014 7:37:36pm

re: #216 HappyWarrior

How’s she polling? I assume it’s an uphill battle for her. I am not optimistic at her chances but I hope she at least can give the dicks a scare.

She is down in the polls, not insurmountably so but it doesn’t look hopeful.

220 Charles Johnson  Sep 19, 2014 7:38:00pm
221 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 7:38:39pm

re: #217 ausador

re: #218 wheat-dogghazi

Interesting stories. Never knew Dad’s dad. Just the stories. He’s a big part of why I am a staunch liberal though. He was really forward looking for his time.

222 teleskiguy  Sep 19, 2014 7:41:35pm
223 ausador  Sep 19, 2014 7:44:32pm

re: #222 teleskiguy

Why not just use a howitzer and grape shot?

/
“Manly sport” of hunting!

224 The War TARDIS  Sep 19, 2014 7:45:53pm

re: #222 teleskiguy

What’s even more silly, is that was put on a boat.

225 Lumberhead  Sep 19, 2014 7:48:13pm

re: #220 Charles Johnson

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I’m limited to the local ABC channel so I don’t know if any of the other local broadcasts have anything but there’s nothing yet locally that I can report. There’ll be another broadcast in 15 minutes so maybe something then. The 10 broadcast did have a greater sense of urgency than other recent ones did.

226 HappyWarrior  Sep 19, 2014 7:48:24pm

re: #222 teleskiguy

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That’s almost cartoon comical.

227 Bear  Sep 19, 2014 7:49:07pm

Three months after turning 18 I was a PVT in the infantry training Company. Even though I could not really see the Big E on the vision chart without glasses. Had to squint and give a try several times before I made a guess that it was not an E but was an S.

228 Varek Raith  Sep 19, 2014 7:50:24pm

re: #222 teleskiguy

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They were entirely commercial.
Had to kill large numbers of birds for market.
Boats were used to stabilize the gun.

229 The War TARDIS  Sep 19, 2014 7:50:47pm

Here is Cracked’s thoughts.

Two things just happened in that video: One, somebody got a great sound clip for his animated 80s mascot snuff film, and two, that fucking gun just destroyed 50 targets and the entire table they were mounted on. So what was it used for, repelling bear armies? Assassinating continents? Mugging the moon?

Nope: duck hunting.

Well, duck genocide, to be accurate: It’s said that skilled punt gunners could kill more than 50 birds with one shot. Sadly, the practice was outlawed in 1860. That’s right — the Death Star of the hunting world was invented all the way back in the 19th century. They’re too big to hold, unless you’re a skinny androgynous Japanese RPG character, so they had to be mounted on little boats called “punts” — hence the name. Here’s a video of what punt gun hunting looked like:

If you told somebody you were “going duck hunting” back in the early 1800s, you would follow that statement by strolling out to the dock, lying down on a scale replica of a battleship and waging naval warfare on flocks of unsuspecting waterfowl. Think that’s an unfair analogy? Consider this: For greater efficiency, hunters would often work in fleets of 10 punts or more.

230 darthstar  Sep 19, 2014 7:51:42pm
231 darthstar  Sep 19, 2014 7:55:18pm

re: #222 teleskiguy

I saw one of those once when I was a teenager. My dad took me to one of his patients (a gunsmith) to put a new barrel on my 1943 Springfield .30-06. Yeah, that was my deer rifle growing up. Anyhoo, the guy lived in this little shack of a house with floor to ceiling guns all around…one was a punt gun he’d made when he was young. He also had a 4 barrel .16 guage he said he used for poaching ducks when he was young. We went out to his barn where he had two lathes and drills for boring barrels, and behind it I picked out my “new” barrel - the old axel off of a Model T Ford. ( he had about seven of them )

232 teleskiguy  Sep 19, 2014 7:58:50pm

re: #231 darthstar

4-barrel shotgun? HAH!

Sounds like a talented gunsmith!

233 sagehen  Sep 19, 2014 8:00:20pm

re: #218 wheat-dogghazi

My dad got an exemption because he was the only financial support for his mother. Also, he had a heart murmur. So, he did civilian duty with the Army Signal Corps installing and repairing aircraft radios. My elder maternal uncle was a scrawny little guy, but he got drafted and sent to the Aleutians for bomb disposal duty. His younger brother, though, had a bad stutter and was classified 4F. He ended up serving in the merchant marine.

Oh, and my mom worked in a factory that made aircraft parts. I’ve forgotten the name.

My dad was born in 1928, so too young for the draft. He volunteered anyway, a malnourished kid with glasses, allergies and a bad knee (they weren’t fussy). He ended up stationed at a base on the west coast where trainloads of soldiers would pass through on their way to board a ship. They had to eat first, and dad was dishing out the meal. At demob, it became a place where shiploads of soldiers passed through on their way to board a train, and dad was still dishing out the meals.

He spent most of the war peeling potatoes and cleaning the grease trap.

234 Timothy Watson  Sep 19, 2014 8:01:23pm

re: #230 darthstar

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A Tu-95 Bear if I’m not mistaken, which is about the same age as our B-52.

235 Lumberhead  Sep 19, 2014 8:09:02pm

Local news says there have been reports of shots fired but they haven’t been able to confirm. Area has been flooded with local, state, and federal law enforcement.
The area currently being searched is quite remote and heavily wooded. Most people would consider where I live as remote but it’s nothing compared to this place. Cell service is very sporadic, no street lights, homes far apart. Pretty tough area to search.

236 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 19, 2014 8:10:38pm

re: #234 Timothy Watson

A Tu-95 Bear if I’m not mistaken, which is about the same age as our B-52.

And considering the stand off weapons it is the launch platform for, nothing to be denigrated that way. The military, especially the Navy, has a healthy respect for them.

237 calochortus  Sep 19, 2014 8:11:51pm

Time to watch The Roosevelts. Good night Lizards. Hasta mañana.

238 ausador  Sep 19, 2014 8:23:03pm

Good compilation, amateurish video annotations*…

IDIOTS WITH GUNS:
Youtube Video

*considering how many people on YouTube simply steal others work I guess they needed to watermark every frame. :(

239 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sep 19, 2014 8:23:25pm

re: #144 Decatur Deb

I’m hep.

One of my late father’s favorites.

He claimed that once, as a teenager (which would have been in the 1930’s), he said to his father, “Take it easy, Greasy, it’s a long slide.” I’ve encountered that one nowhere else.

240 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sep 19, 2014 8:25:34pm

re: #147 Bear

Any one recall the Q count?
1Q, 2Q, 3Q, 4***.

From 1944 era.

I know someone whose mother went to high school at Norfolk Academy. She says they used to chant “We don’t smoke! We don’t drink! Norfolk! Norfolk!”

241 psddluva4evah  Sep 19, 2014 8:30:35pm

Wow!

242 psddluva4evah  Sep 19, 2014 8:31:16pm
243 psddluva4evah  Sep 19, 2014 8:33:36pm
244 GeneJockey  Sep 19, 2014 8:38:25pm

Omar Gonzalez? He sounds like a Muslim Mexican!
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245 Dark_Falcon  Sep 19, 2014 8:38:34pm

re: #14 Bubblehead II

Yep. He’s supporting the let’s imprison/kill the gay’s Government of Uganda. Why?

I don’t defend the Ugandan government’s anti-gay policies, but they have put great efforts into opposing al Shattab in Somalia, and their troops are some of the few forces in the Central African Republic that have been able to really work to create local stability. To abandon forces that do such good and important work strikes me as madness. It would be condemning thousands to death in order to show sympathy.

The Ugandan anti-gay law was a monstrosity, and efforts to pass it back into law should be opposed. But opposed in the right way, quietly, not with loud protests and threats of aid cuts that simply make Ugandans feel they’re being bullied.

246 ausador  Sep 19, 2014 8:41:26pm

Great, now the white house will have to become even more of an armed camp that further restricts close access to American citizens. I can see them pushing the public access zone back to Lafayette park because of this nonsense. :(

247 psddluva4evah  Sep 19, 2014 8:44:35pm

re: #246 ausador

I’m just saying, how did this guy make it THAT far?

Aren’t there like sniper on the WH roof? I mean was the door open? Are there not cameras? I mean there is video from a cell phone of the guy running across the lawn?

Again, how the hell did he get that far?

248 ausador  Sep 19, 2014 8:45:11pm

re: #245 Dark_Falcon

I don’t defend the Ugandan government’s anti-gay policies, but they have put great efforts into opposing al Shattab in Somalia, and their troops are some of the few forces in the Central African Republic that have been able to really work to create local stability. To abandon forces that do such good and important work strikes me as madness. It would be condemning thousands to death in order to show sympathy.

The Ugandan anti-gay law was a monstrosity, and efforts to pass it back into law should be opposed. But opposed in the right way, quietly, not with loud protests and threats of aid cuts that simply make Ugandans feel they’re being bullied.

It was passed, they just took the death penalty off the table for now, currently you only get life in prison…

en.wikipedia.org

249 Dark_Falcon  Sep 19, 2014 8:47:17pm

re: #248 ausador

It was passed, they just took the death penalty off the table for now, currently you only get life in prison…

en.wikipedia.org

From that Wikpedia page:

On 1 August 2014, the Constitutional Court of Uganda ruled the law invalid.

The law was passed without a proper quorum in Parliament, so it got invalidated.

250 Teukka  Sep 19, 2014 8:48:53pm

re: #20 Justanotherhuman

Russia being assholes—again.

Editor’s note: An unnamed U.S. official tells CNN’s Barbara Starr that officials in Washington think the Russian flight incidents were related to the visit by Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko, who talked to Canadian officials Wednesday and President Barack Obama on Thursday. We’re watching for additional official statements on the planes being intercepted. - Stephanie
read more on cnn.com

NORTH AMERICAN AEROSPACE DEFENSE COMMAND
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NORAD on Russian planes intercepted near US, Canadian airspace: ‘We think these are standard training activities … but we’ll continue to monitor all air activity approaching American airspace’ - @KiritRadia
see original on twitter.com

RUSSIAN PLANES INTERCEPTED NEAR US, CANADIAN AIRSPACE
31m
More: 2 US jets intercepted 6 Russian planes that neared US airspace off Alaska Thursday; Canadian planes intercepted 2 two Russian bombers that approached Canadian airspace, NORAD says - @CNN
read more on cnn.com

You too? Russian jets violate Swedish Airspace

251 Dark_Falcon  Sep 19, 2014 8:52:15pm

re: #250 Teukka

You too? Russian jets violate Swedish Airspace

They’re playing ‘Red Rover’ with us: pushing at our defenses, seeing how we respond. Its an old game, older than most of those posting here tonight.

252 ausador  Sep 19, 2014 8:56:20pm

re: #247 psddluva4evah

I’m just saying, how did this guy make it THAT far?

Aren’t there like sniper on the WH roof? I mean was the door open? Are there not cameras? I mean there is video from a cell phone of the guy running across the lawn?

Again, how the hell did he get that far?

There are routinely two teams of four (each of two snipers & two spotters) on the roof according to “unverifiable sources” since the Secret Service never comments on protective measures.

In routine operation they try to stay out of the public eye, which means that they are not always deployed “at the ready.” It is a trade off between making the white house look like a citadel in the midst of a siege and a public space.

You would have to employ at least four times that many snipers and rotate them in 2 hour or less shifts to maintain alertness in order to make sure that someone like Omar J. Gonzalez was dead before reaching the doors.

253 stpaulbear  Sep 19, 2014 8:56:33pm

re: #249 Dark_Falcon

The law was passed without a proper quorum in Parliament, so it got invalidated.

In other words, it was invalidated because of a technicality, not because it was so monsterously inhumane. If only they had followed the rules they could have gotten what they wanted.

254 Teukka  Sep 19, 2014 8:58:30pm

re: #251 Dark_Falcon

They’re playing ‘Red Rover’ with us: pushing at our defenses, seeing how we respond. Its an old game, older than most of those posting here tonight.

I figured that much. I don’t like the concept of it tho, it’s just asking for a situation where someone decides to thwap them.

255 Lumberhead  Sep 19, 2014 9:00:51pm

Well its off to bed for me. No word of the suspect’s capture but the latest is that he might be holed up in a vacant house. Plenty of vacation homes in the area so there are lots of empty houses this time of year. If anyone is interested in just how remote the area is, look up Canadensis, PA on Google Earth and you’ll see.
With any luck I’ll wake up to the news that he was captured overnight and life will return to normal.

256 ausador  Sep 19, 2014 9:04:13pm

re: #254 Teukka

I figured that much. I don’t like the concept of it tho, it’s just asking for a situation where someone decides to thwap them.

It happened every week all through the 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s, things are just getting a bit more like the old “Cold War” status quo unfortunately.

257 BeachDem  Sep 19, 2014 9:15:36pm

re: #76 GeneJockey

Jesus, they really try to tiptoe around the victim blaming/shaming while in fact stepping right in it, don’t they?

Haven’t gone through all the posts yet, but in case nobody has posted it yet, here are Volumes 1-8 of the GOP Rape Advisory Chart

They really don’t get it.

258 BeachDem  Sep 19, 2014 9:23:12pm

So ChuckC even argues with fictional characters? What a journalist!

259 WhatEVs  Sep 19, 2014 9:32:17pm

re: #257 BeachDem

Haven’t gone through all the posts yet, but in case nobody has posted it yet, here are Volumes 1-8 of the GOP Rape Advisory Chart

They really don’t get it.

That’s frekking depressing.

260 sagehen  Sep 19, 2014 9:36:45pm

re: #257 BeachDem

Haven’t gone through all the posts yet, but in case nobody has posted it yet, here are Volumes 1-8 of the GOP Rape Advisory Chart

They really don’t get it.

It’s convenient to have them all listed one on page, to drive home the frequency of such campaign statements.

261 ausador  Sep 19, 2014 9:55:46pm

Watch out everyone… ///

262 ausador  Sep 19, 2014 9:56:37pm

re: #257 BeachDem

Haven’t gone through all the posts yet, but in case nobody has posted it yet, here are Volumes 1-8 of the GOP Rape Advisory Chart

They really don’t get it.

Bookmarked, thanks.

263 WhatEVs  Sep 19, 2014 10:04:13pm

re: #261 ausador

Watch out everyone… ///

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264 ausador  Sep 19, 2014 10:10:17pm

In which Chuck and friends make fun of a “androgynous” (not really) looking Democrat woman…

Retweeted by Chuck:

265 stpaulbear  Sep 19, 2014 10:10:53pm

re: #261 ausador

Watch out everyone… ///

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Well at least we know now why all of his previous writing seemed so ham-fisted.

266 BeachDem  Sep 19, 2014 10:12:50pm

re: #261 ausador

Watch out everyone… ///

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What? Chuck C’s taking the gloves off?

267 BeachDem  Sep 19, 2014 10:20:55pm

re: #264 ausador

In which Chuck and friends make fun of a “androgynous” (not really) looking Democrat woman…

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And a really smart, strong Democratic woman at that. (But of course, studly god-like men such as ChuckC doesn’t care about trivial things like…

Rosa De Lauro earned a bachelor’s degree from Marymount College in Tarrytown, New York, as well as separate master’s degrees from the London School of Economics and Columbia University.

DeLauro is one of the most liberal members of the House. She is a founding member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus.

Rosa DeLauro is active on health policy issues, particularly women’s health. She has introduced numerous bills aimed at improving cancer treatment and research and women’s health policies. As chair of the appropriations subcommittee that funds the Food and Drug Administration, she has been an outspoken critic of that agency’s failures to protect the public from unsafe foods and medical products…

en.wikipedia.org

268 Jenner7  Sep 19, 2014 10:26:06pm

They released the officers names and a picture of the sword. Looks pretty sharp at the tip. Not saying that makes a difference, since he was shot in the back.

kutv.com

269 ausador  Sep 19, 2014 10:28:57pm

re: #267 BeachDem

Sent a couple of unusually nasty tweets (for me) to the poster of those images, she isn’t exactly Ms. America material herself given her profile pic. :p

270 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 19, 2014 10:34:02pm

re: #264 ausador

Since he’s nothing but a capon it’s no wonder that he can’t comprehend a hen.

271 BeachDem  Sep 19, 2014 10:34:09pm
272 ausador  Sep 19, 2014 10:36:10pm

Wouldn’t be as funny if you couldn’t almost picture it happening…

273 BeachDem  Sep 19, 2014 10:37:51pm

re: #269 ausador

Sent a couple of unusually nasty tweets (for me) to the poster of those images, she isn’t exactly Ms. America material herself given her profile pic. :p

Well, first she called you pussycat, then asked what you looked like (couldn’t she tell from your picture that you’re an adorable pussycat?)

274 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 19, 2014 10:51:48pm
275 ausador  Sep 19, 2014 10:59:06pm

OMG it is still raining, it has been raining all damn day, guess I am going to bite the bullet and go do a little shopping anyway…sigh.

(AC quit working two days ago and my appointment to get it fixed isn’t till Tuesday, meanwhile unless I keep the windows down some the windshield fogs over.)

276 ausador  Sep 19, 2014 11:00:45pm

re: #274 wheat-dogghazi

Is Walker that desperate?

Just racists trying to scare black voters away from the polls, I retweeted an article about it earlier today where the racist angle was more prominent.

277 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sep 19, 2014 11:05:22pm

re: #271 BeachDem

We are going to be around areas that are crime-filled. These areas are heavy democrat-voting areas because it is a result of a poor education.

The result of a poor education

278 ausador  Sep 19, 2014 11:10:49pm

Believe or not the derp war that Alouette started early this afternoon is still trying to sputter along in my timeline, new derpers keep joining the fray.

279 BeachDem  Sep 19, 2014 11:16:49pm

re: #277 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

The result of a poor education

There you go with your facts! I’m just surprised South Carolina isn’t in that bottom 10 group. Maybe the Bob Jones University grads pushed the number up.

280 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 19, 2014 11:18:34pm

So I had an interesting experience at work tonight. My boss sent out some reports that showed my numbers in a certain area were a little bit short of goal. Not terribly short mind you, but definitely an “improvement needed” situation.

I started to get a little worried as I am wont to do when these kinds of things happen.

At first I chalked it up to my noted habit of worrying about things too darned much (which I swear is genetic because my mom and grandmother do it too).

A coworker pointed out to me that there really was no reason to be concerned: The company can’t just fire us for random things because we are unionized.

That led me to an important revelation: I realized that part of the worry I was feeling was the natural side effect of working without a union in an “at will” state.

For the past ten years I have worked for a number of major corporations, all in non union positions and all in “at will” states. I’ve seen so much shit go down. People fired for the stupidest, pettiest most ridiculous reasons you can think of.

I’m serious. At a previous job a guy was fired for, get this: using the wrong door to enter the building. We had a designated employee entrance and he didn’t use it. Now I understand getting involved and saying: “Don’t do that again” but outright firing him for it?

Of course in an “at-will” state a boss can fire you for looking at them the wrong way or they can fire you if they are in a bad mood and looking for someone to take it out on or they can fire you for absolutely no reason whatsoever. There are of course labor laws, but good luck getting a wrongful termination suit to fly in an “at will” state.

So after a decade of watching over my shoulder, it’s nice to have union protection. I know Unions aren’t without their issues but it’s comforting to know that I can’t just be canned on a whim with zero recourse.

The funny thing is I wish Unions weren’t necessary. I wish businesses actually treated their employees like human beings with dignity and respect and paid them reasonably.

Since that is obviously never going to happen, I understand the need for a union.

281 BeachDem  Sep 19, 2014 11:19:06pm

re: #278 ausador

Believe or not the derp war that Alouette started early this afternoon is still trying to sputter along in my timeline, new derpers keep joining the fray.

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You might want to point out to the derpette that the word is TENET not tenant (unless she’s looking for addresses for Westboro and the KKK to find a prom date.)

282 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 19, 2014 11:20:26pm

re: #278 ausador

World War D?

/

283 Single-handed sailor  Sep 19, 2014 11:22:19pm

re: #279 BeachDem

There you go with your facts! I’m just surprised South Carolina isn’t in that bottom 10 group. Maybe the Bob Jones University grads pushed the number up.

You made me spit beer on my keyboard. I just cleaned it yesterday!

284 BeachDem  Sep 19, 2014 11:23:45pm

re: #283 Single-handed sailor

You made me spit beer on my keyboard. I just cleaned it yesterday!

I’ll be here all week! (then I have to go to Brownsville, TX—can’t wait to see all the border militia derpers—yeah, really looking forward to that)

285 ausador  Sep 19, 2014 11:30:11pm

Your doing this “drive thru” thing all wrong… /

286 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 19, 2014 11:35:37pm

re: #285 ausador

Your doing this “drive thru” thing all wrong… /

Plus, setting themselves up for months of cops-and-donuts jokes.

287 ausador  Sep 19, 2014 11:42:27pm

Wow, more than 1 out of 4 people currently in Lebanon are Syrian refugees, this is not going to end well, at all.

Alas Lebanon :(

data.unhcr.org

288 ausador  Sep 19, 2014 11:55:32pm

Flawless example of someone getting hoist by his own petard…

289 ausador  Sep 20, 2014 12:02:30am

Hadn’t seen anything about this one, surprised by the crowd size…

290 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 20, 2014 12:14:03am

re: #278 ausador

Agreed. It’s as moronic as claiming that ISIS isn’t Islamic.

291 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 20, 2014 12:26:07am
No True Scotsman
This error is a kind of ad hoc rescue of one’s generalization in which the reasoner re-characterizes the situation solely in order to escape refutation of the generalization.

Example:

Smith: All Scotsmen are loyal and brave.
Jones: But McDougal over there is a Scotsman, and he was arrested by his commanding officer for running from the enemy.
Smith: Well, if that’s right, it just shows that McDougal wasn’t a TRUE Scotsman.

292 ausador  Sep 20, 2014 12:30:45am

re: #290 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Agreed. It’s as moronic as claiming that ISIS isn’t Islamic.

Basic question ought to be do they represent mainstream accepted Christianity/Islam, but that in itself can still be very subjective in nature.

In the meantime I will keep arguing with the idiots on the most simplistic level I can since anything more complex would only further confuse them. :(

293 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 20, 2014 12:38:46am

re: #292 ausador

Indeed, I don’t like the term “mainstream accepted”. What is the mainstream accepted Christianity? That depends entirely on the geographic region you’re in. It’s one thing in Russia, another in Utah. The Saudi Wahhabism is hardly acceptable in the Western world, yet it would be absurd to claim on this flimsy basis that it’s not a legitimate form of Islam. And so on.

294 ausador  Sep 20, 2014 12:39:16am

re: #291 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Used the counter argument three times today myself, re. “no true Scotsman Christian.”

I just find it extremely hypocritical for them to say that large groups from Christian countries who committed violent atrocities in the past “weren’t true Christians.” Yet they turn around and claim that ISIS and/or Al Qaeda represents the only “true” nature of Islam.

295 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 20, 2014 12:47:19am

re: #119 Justanotherhuman

I don’t think any LGBT folks think of themselves as an actual “Institution” with an “agenda” of any kind, either. : )

I cannot find the cartoon, but it is called “The Gay Agenda” and depicts two fellows having breakfast with the caption:
8 am work
12 pm lunch
1 pm more work
6 pm dinner
8 pm a movie
11 pm, some reading , bed

296 ausador  Sep 20, 2014 12:57:34am

re: #295 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I cannot find the cartoon, but it is called “The Gay Agenda” and depicts two fellows having breakfast with the caption:
8 am work
12 pm lunch
1 pm more work
6 pm dinner
8 pm a movie
11 pm, some reading , bed

Was it this one perhaps…
How Diabolical! ///

297 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 20, 2014 1:19:09am

re: #296 ausador

Was it this one perhaps…
How Diabolical! ///

Actually, the one I recall is different, which goes to show how pervasive the Gay Agenda Disinformation campaign goes! Film and media are full of images of gays doing things other than undermining traditional marriage, destroying Christian family values and endangering our cherished and exceptional American Way of Life!

298 Targetpractice  Sep 20, 2014 3:35:03am

That’s liable to torque more than a few jaws.

299 urbanmeemaw  Sep 20, 2014 3:46:13am

re: #24 freetoken

Their grins are eerily similarly creepy.

They were hatched in the same pod.

300 urbanmeemaw  Sep 20, 2014 3:53:24am

re: #94 Charles Johnson

What the hell gets into somebody’s head that would make them jump over the White House fence?

No way this can possibly end well.

How they hell was that guy able to get that close? That’s scary. Where was Secret Service? It’s one thing to jump a fence and be immediately apprehended. But getting that close to the White House? WTF?

301 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 20, 2014 4:08:09am

re: #298 Targetpractice

In 2011, Cupich issued an edict forbidding priests and seminarians from praying in front of Planned Parenthood clinics, or supporting 40 Days for Life. [6]

It’s a start.

302 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 20, 2014 4:10:30am

re: #298 Targetpractice

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That’s liable to torque more than a few jaws.

_THAT_ is why I pray Francis lives for a couple of more decades… ;)

303 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 20, 2014 4:14:37am

re: #302 William Barnett-Lewis

“Cupich for Pope 20xx!”
;)

304 William Barnett-Lewis  Sep 20, 2014 4:24:01am

re: #303 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

“Cupich for Pope 20xx!”
;)

May he be the conservative choice.

305 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 20, 2014 4:25:32am
306 Decatur Deb  Sep 20, 2014 4:25:47am

re: #304 William Barnett-Lewis

May he be the conservative choice.

Hoping it’s my room-mate, O’Malley, so I can crash at his place in VC.

307 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 20, 2014 4:26:11am

re: #304 William Barnett-Lewis

(and the only white guy ;)

308 Targetpractice  Sep 20, 2014 4:27:29am

re: #302 William Barnett-Lewis

_THAT_ is why I pray Francis lives for a couple of more decades… ;)

Indeed. One retweet did make me smile. Namely when the press talks Christianity it’s always “moderate” and “conservative,” but when they talk Islam it’s “moderate” and “extremist.”

309 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 20, 2014 4:38:38am

re: #306 Decatur Deb

Hoping it’s my room-mate, O’Malley, so I can crash at his place in VC.

This one?

catholicnewsagency.com

Washington D.C., Sep 18, 2014 / 02:18 am (CNA/EWTN News).- The head of the U.S. bishops’ pro-life committee has renewed a call for Congressional action after a new report verified the bishops’ repeated warnings of taxpayer-funded abortion in the Affordable Care Act.

310 Decatur Deb  Sep 20, 2014 4:42:13am

re: #309 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

This one?

catholicnewsagency.com

Yeah. Maybe I shouldn’t mention the six months I did as an Enroll Alabama volunteer.

311 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 20, 2014 4:54:55am

312 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 20, 2014 4:56:59am

313 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 20, 2014 5:11:01am

re: #312 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Fiesole

314 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 20, 2014 5:14:11am
315 Decatur Deb  Sep 20, 2014 5:14:24am

re: #313 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Fiesole

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Everyone goes to Italy when they die.

316 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 20, 2014 5:17:21am

Venice:

317 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 20, 2014 5:29:43am

When one is in Florence, day trips to Siena and Fiesole are a must. Skip Pisa though.

318 PhillyPretzel  Sep 20, 2014 5:32:56am

re: #317 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Psst. Let Rick Steves, Rudi Maxa and Burt Wolf stand in the lines and go through all of the tourist stuff. I watch them on PBS and online. :)

319 Decatur Deb  Sep 20, 2014 5:35:41am

re: #317 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

When one is in Florence, day trips to Siena and Fiesole are a must. Skip Pisa though.

“Better a death in the family than a Pisan on your doorstep.”

Actually, it’s a very nice town—I did a lot of work there. A few days ago I pushed Pizzeria da Moise, the best pizza I found in italy.

320 PhillyPretzel  Sep 20, 2014 5:37:44am

re: #319 Decatur Deb

The pizza sounds good. Darn as usual when someone mentions food on this weblog I get hungry. :/

321 Bubblehead II  Sep 20, 2014 5:45:06am

re: #320 PhillyPretzel

The pizza sounds good. Darn as usual when someone mentions food on this weblog I get hungry. :/

Think I’ll cook up some corned beef hash and a couple of fried eggs for breakfast.

322 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 20, 2014 5:56:01am

We spent a week on the Eolian isles (Salina and Stromboli) north of Sicily. We are now totally spoiled for fresh produce and seafood from the islands.

And I came to read that Stromboli, with its permanent eruptions and dramatic and sometimes ominous volcanic rock features, served as an inspiration for Tolkien’s Mount Doom and Mordor.

323 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 20, 2014 5:57:54am

Right Wing Head Explosion/WIngnut convergence time:

Cape Town pro-gay mosque opens in South Africa

A Muslim academic has opened a gay-friendly mosque in South Africa, despite receiving death threats and fierce criticism from parts of the local Muslim community.

Women will also be allowed to lead prayers at Taj Hargey’s “Open Mosque” in Cape Town.

“We are opening the mosque for open-minded people, not closed-minded people,” Mr Hargey told the BBC.

He says the mosque will help counter growing Islamic radicalism.

324 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 20, 2014 6:04:17am

re: #323 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The pro-gay sharia RWNJ meme is already a thing. This will confirm it.

325 lawhawk  Sep 20, 2014 6:05:16am

The firm that filed the suit has withdrawn, claiming that it was suffering a backlash for filing the suit. Another firm has taken its place.

The lawyer, David B. Rivkin Jr., had taken the case on behalf of House Republicans in August, right after they voted to sue the president, accusing him of overstepping the powers of the presidency. Two people with knowledge of the situation said Mr. Rivkin withdrew from the case under pressure after facing criticism that he had taken on an overly partisan lawsuit. Some members of the firm feared the case against Mr. Obama could drive off potential clients and hurt Baker Hostetler’s credibility, according to one of the people with knowledge of the case. Both people said they were prohibited from publicly discussing such a delicate case.

With Mr. Rivkin’s withdrawal, the House Administration Committee signed a new contract on Friday with William A. Burck, co-head of the Washington office of Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan. Mr. Burck had served as outside counsel for the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform when House Republicans sued Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. to produce documents related to the botched gunrunning investigation known as Operation Fast and Furious.

He also represented Maureen McDonnell, the wife of former Gov. Bob McDonnell of Virginia, in the corruption trial that ended this month with her conviction on nine counts.

So, Rivkin withdrew because of the backlash he was getting and the potential loss of business to the firm for pushing such a partisan suit (and one that I find without merit). So who does the House GOP go and get to replace him?

The lawyer who represented Maureen McDonnell who was found guilty of corruption on 9 counts in federal court. That’s a great record. This suit is looking better all the time - for the Obama Administration given the clown show that the GOP is putting together.

326 lawhawk  Sep 20, 2014 6:08:19am

re: #287 ausador

That’s on top of the Palestinians who have been in Lebanon for decades.

The situation in Jordan is just as bad. And both countries lack the resources to fully support the mass influx of refugees, increasing the possibility of destabilizing the governments.

327 Decatur Deb  Sep 20, 2014 6:19:11am

re: #325 lawhawk

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The firm that filed the suit has withdrawn, claiming that it was suffering a backlash for filing the suit. Another firm has taken its place.

So, Rivkin withdrew because of the backlash he was getting and the potential loss of business to the firm for pushing such a partisan suit (and one that I find without merit). So who does the House GOP go and get to replace him?

The lawyer who represented Maureen McDonnell who was found guilty of corruption on 9 counts in federal court. That’s a great record. This suit is looking better all the time - for the Obama Administration given the clown show that the GOP is putting together.

There’s always an Orly of Last Resort.

328 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Sep 20, 2014 6:28:35am

re: #324 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

The pro-gay sharia RWNJ meme is already a thing. This will confirm it.

The fact that conservative Muslims condemn it does not faze their thinking either.

329 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 20, 2014 6:29:34am

re: #328 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

The fact that conservative Muslims condemn it does not faze their thinking either.

Taqiyya!

330 Decatur Deb  Sep 20, 2014 6:41:25am

Ah, Alabama. If I didn’t live here, I’d think this is all liberal hype:

Alabama Governor Consoles Family Of Murdered 8-Year-Old Black Girl By Suggesting Their Dysfunction Killed Her (Updated)

wonkette.com
—from Wonkette

Off to prepare for today’s voter registration drive in our Section 8 projects. It’s possible that the Ferguson PD might be mentioned.

331 darthstar  Sep 20, 2014 7:58:28am

mornin’ everyone

332 Bubblehead II  Sep 20, 2014 7:59:35am

re: #331 darthstar

mornin’ everyone

I think they all fell asleep at their keyboards. :-)

333 darthstar  Sep 20, 2014 8:00:48am

re: #325 lawhawk

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The firm that filed the suit has withdrawn, claiming that it was suffering a backlash for filing the suit. Another firm has taken its place.

So, Rivkin withdrew because of the backlash he was getting and the potential loss of business to the firm for pushing such a partisan suit (and one that I find without merit). So who does the House GOP go and get to replace him?

The lawyer who represented Maureen McDonnell who was found guilty of corruption on 9 counts in federal court. That’s a great record. This suit is looking better all the time - for the Obama Administration given the clown show that the GOP is putting together.

Why can’t counsel remain anonymous? That would solve everything. //

334 darthstar  Sep 20, 2014 8:02:26am

re: #332 Bubblehead II

I think they all fell asleep at their keyboards. :-)

I’m just dropping by then moving on myself. Saturday morning - I promised the dogs they could ride in the back of the truck and go to the beach.

335 darthstar  Sep 20, 2014 8:03:10am

I know, I know…we could walk…but they (I) love driving the truck.

336 Bubblehead II  Sep 20, 2014 8:05:26am

re: #334 darthstar

I’m just dropping by then moving on myself. Saturday morning - I promised the dogs they could ride in the back of the truck and go to the beach.

Have a good day.

337 Dark_Falcon  Sep 20, 2014 8:09:30am

re: #274 wheat-dogghazi

Is Walker that desperate?

It is far more likely the “Wisconsin Poll Watcher Militia” is ultimately just a excuse for a small group of gun fuckers to do a circle jerk today, and then beat off next month to fantasies of how they are going to smack down the [plural n-word].

That said, they could disrupt polls in poor black areas if they tried to stop people from voting, or rather the armed residents of that area would stop the voting after they blew said ‘militiamen’ away. That’s the biggest reason I think that group is baloney: If they ever do what they are threatening to do, they will be very sorry.

338 Dr Lizardo  Sep 20, 2014 8:10:14am

So, I went to a Czech Star Trek fan club meeting today - I was invited by a co-worker - and to my total and absolute lack of surprise, there not much different than their American counterparts.

Mercifully, there was no cosplay. Apparently, that comes later.

We saw Prelude To Axanar, a fanfilm, and I will say for a fanfilm, it’s quite good. It’s even got a few big names in it, such as Richard Hatch and Tony Todd and others.

Youtube Video

339 Snarknado!  Sep 20, 2014 8:11:34am

re: #338 Dr Lizardo

Hey, what do you have against cosplay? I’ve never gone for it in a big way, but I admire the costumes of the people who do.

340 Dark_Falcon  Sep 20, 2014 8:16:21am

re: #290 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Agreed. It’s as moronic as claiming that ISIS isn’t Islamic.

But the real reason for saying the Westboro Baptist Church is not Christian is the same reason as saying the ‘Islamic State’ is not Islamic: The speaker or writer is trying to say that he is not bigoted in general against the religion the fanatics claim to be a part of. It’s a way to say to non-fanatical Christians and/or Muslims that they are not the ones targeted by the speaker.

341 WhatEVs  Sep 20, 2014 8:19:32am

re: #339 Snarknado!

Hey, what do you have against cosplay? I’ve never gone for it in a big way, but I admire the costumes of the people who do.

When I went to a ST Convention in Montreal, I was sorely disappointed by the lack of costumes. I mean, really, if you’re going to a convention like this, buck up and dress up! Had I not been visiting, and had no way to create some kind of awesome costume, I’d have done it.

Go big or go home!

342 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 20, 2014 8:21:22am

re: #340 Dark_Falcon

The reasons differ. Obama said that probably because it’s what the Muslim allies must hear. In his place I would probably say the same. Others say that because they don’t want to be associated with fanatics (whether Christians or Muslims). Still others try to defend the whole groups from such associations. The latter two reasons may be admirable, but they’re nevertheless wrong, since they’re a form of the No True Scotsman fallacy. It’s no different than, say, Jack Chick claiming that Catholics aren’t Christians. Yes, they are. So were the Crusaders. So was Torquemada. So were the people who murdered the Salem “witches”.

343 wrenchwench  Sep 20, 2014 8:23:34am
344 Snarknado!  Sep 20, 2014 8:24:37am

re: #341 WhatEVs

When I went to a ST Convention in Montreal, I was sorely disappointed by the lack of costumes. I mean, really, if you’re going to a convention like this, buck up and dress up! Had I not been visiting, and had no way to create some kind of awesome costume, I’d have done it.

Go big or go home!

Or at least make the effort— I may not go whole hog, but I at least have a uniform for star trek conventions.

345 Dark_Falcon  Sep 20, 2014 8:29:17am

re: #342 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

The reasons differ. Obama said that probably because it’s what the Muslim allies must hear. In his place I would probably say the same. Others say that because they don’t want to be associated with fanatics (whether Christians or Muslims). Still others try to defend the whole groups from such associations. The latter two reasons may be admirable, but they’re nevertheless wrong, since they’re a form of the No True Scotsman fallacy. It’s no different than, say, Jack Chick claiming that Catholics aren’t Christians. Yes, they are. So were the Crusaders. So was Torquemada. So were the people who murdered the Salem “witches”.

They’re wrong, but sometimes they have to be said in order to keep other Muslims and/or Christians from thinking that they are under attack.

346 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 20, 2014 8:31:37am

re: #345 Dark_Falcon

They’re wrong, but sometimes they have to be said in order to keep other Muslims and/or Christians from thinking that they are under attack.

That’s what the terms “radical”, “fundamentalist”, “extremist” are for. They’re subjective, but correct for a given socium.

347 wheat-dogghazi  Sep 20, 2014 8:37:00am

re: #338 Dr Lizardo

So, I went to a Czech Star Trek fan club meeting today - I was invited by a co-worker - and to my total and absolute lack of surprise, there not much different than their American counterparts.

Mercifully, there was no cosplay. Apparently, that comes later.

We saw Prelude To Axanar, a fanfilm, and I will say for a fanfilm, it’s quite good. It’s even got a few big names in it, such as Richard Hatch and Tony Todd and others.

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Star Trek has not yet penetrated the Bamboo Curtain, so there are no trekkers/trekkies in great numbers in China. Cosplay, on the other hand, is a growing hobby among the under-30 crowd — mostly anime characters.

348 makeitstop  Sep 20, 2014 8:41:01am

Good morning, Lizards!

Earlier this week, I signed on for a few dates with a contemporary country band, the first show scheduled for this Friday. They sent me their song list, and at that point I realized that I had a week to learn a full night’s music - outside of a Buck Owens tune, a Dwight Yoakam tune and a couple of others that I know, I’m looking at learning about 3 dozen songs inside of a week, and I’m about halfway through the list so far.

The songs aren’t difficult to learn, but there is the danger of having so many new tunes to play that my mind will get crossed up on which song is which. So this afternoon will see some heavy woodshedding.

And as for the material - boy, has country music changed. Still much the same lyrical content-wise (beer, trucks, Friday, women), but I’m astounded at how many of the elements of hip hop and modern R&B have been absorbed by modern country.

Okay, then. Learn that poem…learn that poem…

349 Dark_Falcon  Sep 20, 2014 8:42:41am

re: #346 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

That’s what the terms “radical”, “fundamentalist”, “extremist” are for. They’re subjective, but correct for a given socium.

You know how people are: They sometimes are too easily offended or they worry too much about giving offense. So I think the best way to deal with this particular logical fallacy is to call it out if its not needed* but at the same time to be understanding about why it was said and help the speaker find a better way of saying what (s)he needs to say.

*: In a few cases logic has to get tossed out due to others’ paranoia, or due to hostile propaganda. So there are some rare times when a logical fallacy simply has be allowed because the confusion and inaccuracy it causes are preferable to an even worse outcome which would otherwise be likely.

350 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 20, 2014 8:45:50am

re: #349 Dark_Falcon

As you have seen, I don’t really object to Obama using this rhetoric to achieve noble political goals. Logical fallacies are, like, the least grave sin in politics.

It doesn’t mean I would expect the same in other contexts.

351 WhatEVs  Sep 20, 2014 8:47:05am

re: #344 Snarknado!

Or at least make the effort— I may not go whole hog, but I at least have a uniform for star trek conventions.

And now I have a ST:TNG communicator pin. Which gets more comments than all the other jewelry I own combined.

352 wrenchwench  Sep 20, 2014 8:48:05am

I hate it when they use their code.

353 CuriousLurker  Sep 20, 2014 8:49:44am

re: #340 Dark_Falcon

But the real reason for saying the Westboro Baptist Church is not Christian is the same reason as saying the ‘Islamic State’ is not Islamic: The speaker or writer is trying to say that he is not bigoted in general against the religion the fanatics claim to be a part of. It’s a way to say to non-fanatical Christians and/or Muslims that they are not the ones targeted by the speaker.

As Sergey pointed out, the reasons for saying it differ according to the speaker. Have you looked at the timeline of the woman ausador was responding to? I think not, because if you had you’d know that she was clearly asserting is that what Muslim fanatics do is acceptable standard practice in Islam, whereas bad/violent behavior by Christians isn’t acceptable standard practice in Christianity.

IOW, it’s okay to paint Muslims with the same ugly brush, but not Christians because Christianity is morally/ethically superior. Naturally, she’s cherry-picking verses and totally talking out of her ass, making her utter ignorance of what is or isn’t acceptable standard Islamic practice WRT jihad (or anything else for that matter) obvious.

354 Dark_Falcon  Sep 20, 2014 8:56:09am

re: #353 CuriousLurker

No, I hadn’t seen that timeline and it would’ve made a difference. In fact:

355 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 20, 2014 8:57:31am

re: #354 Dark_Falcon

Because THESE are fake Muslims! Hurr hurr!

356 CuriousLurker  Sep 20, 2014 8:58:43am

re: #355 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Because THESE are fake Muslims! Hurr hurr!

LOL, Pamela! Fancy seeing you here on a Saturday.

357 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 20, 2014 8:59:55am

re: #356 CuriousLurker

LOL, Pamela! Fancy seeing you here on a Saturday.

JIHADITERRIERISTELEVENTYHURR

358 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 20, 2014 8:59:57am

This is pretty cool:

359 bratwurst  Sep 20, 2014 9:04:35am

This is likely to be the biggest dumbass comment you read all day…courtesy of the Heritage Foundation Senior Fellow:

360 Snarknado!  Sep 20, 2014 9:05:38am

re: #351 WhatEVs

And now I have a ST:TNG communicator pin. Which gets more comments than all the other jewelry I own combined.

I’ve never heard any comments about mine. Maybe because I only wear it to conventions.

361 wrenchwench  Sep 20, 2014 9:06:35am

I can understand some outrage over this, but it’s not very different from the accepted imagery. Take Santo Niño Doctor (with whom I was previously unacquainted).

And then look at the previous images used.

I love St. George.

362 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 20, 2014 9:07:46am

re: #361 wrenchwench

Awww poor dragon >:(

363 Dark_Falcon  Sep 20, 2014 9:08:41am

re: #359 bratwurst

This is likely to be the biggest dumbass comment you read all day…courtesy of the Heritage Foundation Senior Fellow:

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Well, I’d buy ‘Progressive’, but he’d have to explain the “anti-constitutional” in great detail before I’d buy it.

364 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 20, 2014 9:10:59am

- They killed Barney!
- You bastards!

365 Eclectic Cyborg  Sep 20, 2014 9:11:32am

re: #363 Dark_Falcon

Well, I’d buy ‘Progressive’, but he’d have to explain the “anti-constitutional” in great detail before I’d buy it.

Simply put: he’s upset it’s not the Fox News version.

366 Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 20, 2014 9:12:15am

re: #353 CuriousLurker

I asked what tenant of Christianity westboro/KKK were espousing? Answer, BTW, is none.

I was a tenant of Christianity. The building was rent-controlled so Christianity evicted all of us and converted the place to condos.

367 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 20, 2014 9:13:24am

She’s acquainted with many Christian tenants and principals.

368 allegro  Sep 20, 2014 9:16:08am

re: #365 Eclectic Cyborg

Simply put: he’s upset it’s not the Fox News version.

After watching 10 minutes of a 14 hour documentary. An informed critique. Really.

369 FemNaziBitch  Sep 20, 2014 9:17:10am

370 Amory Blaine  Sep 20, 2014 9:17:58am

‘Wisconsin Poll Watcher Militia’ plans to confront Scott Walker recall petition signers at polls

A self-described militia group claims to be checking names on the 2012 Scott Walker recall petition and plans to confront those found to have outstanding warrants or tax defaults at the polls on Nov. 4.

“We prefer our people be armed,” reads a Facebook post by Wisconsin Poll Watcher Militia, screen captured on a blog at politicususa.com. “Some will be heading to some of Milwaukee, Racine, and Beloit’s worst areas. We will be armed with a list of people to look for at each location.”

The exchange posted on Politicususa continues:

Patrick Murray: “Just so you are aware, I will not report Republicans. Only Democrats.”

Wisconsin Poll Watcher Militia: “We will be targeting heavy democrat districts, so it is doubtful this will even be an issue.”

371 iceweasel  Sep 20, 2014 9:18:57am

re: #117 stpaulbear

Joe My God is a really good website for following the Christianists who’ve been losing the battles over gay marriage in the US so now they’re working with countries like Uganda and Russia to export their hate in the form of ‘kill-the-gays’ legislation. They don’t have much on the subject right now (there’s been so much other stuff happening), but it’s a good site for keeping up with Christian haters (by ‘good’, I mean incredibly depressing).

JoeMyGod is great, I also like Box Turtle Bulletin for keeping up with the homophobic legislation.

They were tracking Uganda and American evangelic influence there long before anyone else was:
Slouching Towards Kampala: Uganda’s Deadly Embrace of Hate

When we first reported on three American anti-gay activists traveling to Kampala for a three-day conference, we had no idea that it would be the first report of a long string of events leading to a proposal to institute the death penalty for LGBT people. But that is exactly what happened. In this report, we review our collection of more than 500 posts to tell the story of one nation’s embrace of hatred toward gay people. This report will be updated continuously as events continue to unfold. Check here for the latest updates.

372 Snarknado!  Sep 20, 2014 9:19:48am

re: #361 wrenchwench

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I can understand some outrage over this, but it’s not very different from the accepted imagery. Take Santo Niño Doctor (with whom I was previously unacquainted).

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And then look at the previous images used.

I love St. George.

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You can undress these and buy them different costumes — that’s the difference.

(I can do without the lavender dragon with the head of a donkey, though.)

373 CuriousLurker  Sep 20, 2014 9:19:50am

re: #354 Dark_Falcon

No, I hadn’t seen that timeline and it would’ve made a difference. In fact:

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Thanks. The funny/sad part is that it apparently never occurred to @burkepeaches to take 5 minutes to ponder this:

Iraq has been a Muslim majority country since the early days of Islam. Various forms of Yazdânism predate Islam in Iraq, Iran, and Turkey and are related to Zoroastrian theology. How is it possible that they survived under Muslim rule all these centuries if “killing yazidis is part of Islam?” Why did Muslims allow them to live among them for 1000+ years? Basic critical thinking skills seem to be in short supply with too many people.

375 Dark_Falcon  Sep 20, 2014 9:21:04am

re: #368 allegro

After watching 10 minutes of a 14 hour documentary. An informed critique. Really.

He had to stop after ten minutes as the Glenn Beck created rage against “Progressiveism” was causing him to froth and growl uncontrollably. If his staff had not shut off his TV, he’d have started screaming “BENGHAZI!!1” over and over again like a coyote baying at the moon.

377 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Sep 20, 2014 9:22:09am

re: #373 CuriousLurker

Let her explain how Tariq Aziz, an Orthodox Christian, became one of the most powerful men under Muslim Saddam.

378 CuriousLurker  Sep 20, 2014 9:23:02am

re: #366 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I was a tenant of Christianity. The building was rent-controlled so Christianity evicted all of us and converted the place to condos.

Heh, yeah, it drives me nuts when people say tenant instead of tenet. I was LOL at her use of “Christian principals” too.

379 Dark_Falcon  Sep 20, 2014 9:25:07am

re: #370 Amory Blaine

‘Wisconsin Poll Watcher Militia’ plans to confront Scott Walker recall petition signers at polls

To repeat what I said earlier on this topic:

re: #337 Dark_Falcon

It is far more likely the “Wisconsin Poll Watcher Militia” is ultimately just a excuse for a small group of gun fuckers to do a circle jerk today, and then beat off next month to fantasies of how they are going to smack down the [plural n-word].

That said, they could disrupt polls in poor black areas if they tried to stop people from voting, or rather the armed residents of that area would stop the voting after they blew said ‘militiamen’ away. That’s the biggest reason I think that group is baloney: If they ever do what they are threatening to do, they will be very sorry.

Ice, GGT, CL, I apologize for the use of sexual language in this post, but it was needed to convey the type of gratification it seems this sort of ‘militiaman’ derives from their activities.

380 Amory Blaine  Sep 20, 2014 9:29:58am

re: #379 Dark_Falcon

That very well may be, but it warrants attention because conservatives are so vile, that this group may carry it out.

381 Dark_Falcon  Sep 20, 2014 9:31:04am

re: #376 FemNaziBitch

Fraternity Dosed Women With Date-Rape Drugs Based on Color-Coded Hand Stamps, Say Cops

Every officer of that chapter of the fraternity and every member of it who had any part of planning that party should be indicted in a RICO case. Women were lured to a party under the guise of a fun night out, but in reality it was a criminal conspiracy to rape them.

As such, everyone who had a hand in planning the party in general or the rapes in specific should be liable to every crime committed.

382 Dark_Falcon  Sep 20, 2014 9:33:22am

re: #380 Amory Blaine

That very well may be, but it warrants attention because conservatives are so vile, that this group may carry it out.

Militiapeople are but a smal subset of the right, and the great majority of conservatives in Wisconsin and Illinois do not support them. Voter fraud is a matter for law enforcement, not for vigilantes. What those jackasses are proposing is far too much like pre-WWII Chicago for my taste.

383 Amory Blaine  Sep 20, 2014 9:37:13am

A great majority of self described conservatives would support the groups actions. Walker himself has used signing the recall as a political weapon.

384 Dark_Falcon  Sep 20, 2014 9:43:11am

re: #383 Amory Blaine

I disagree, intensely.

BBL

385 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sep 20, 2014 9:44:00am

re: #353 CuriousLurker

In the US, Santa Claus (AKA “St. Nicholas”), assisted by elves and driven by flying reindeer, comes down the chimney every December 25 to deliver gifts to good little girls and boys, while optionally imbibing milk and cookies.

In Holland, he travels by boat to the shore where he transfers to horseback and is assisted by six to eight black men.

The words “silly” and “unrealistic” were redefined when I learned that Saint Nicholas travels with what was consistently described as “six to eight black men.” I asked several Dutch people to narrow it down, but none of them could give me an exact number. It was always “six to eight,” which seems strange, seeing as they’ve had hundreds of years to get a decent count.

The six to eight black men were characterized as personal slaves until the mid-fifties, when the political climate changed and it was decided that instead of being slaves they were just good friends. I think history has proven that something usually comes between slavery and friendship, a period of time marked not by cookies and quiet times beside the fire but by bloodshed and mutual hostility. They have such violence in Holland, but rather than duking it out among themselves, Santa and his former slaves decided to take it out on the public. In the early years, if a child was naughty, Saint Nicholas and the six to eight black men would beat him with what Oscar described as “the small branch of a tree.”

“A switch?”

“Yes,” he said. “That’s it. They’d kick him and beat him with a switch. Then, if the youngster was really bad, they’d put him in a sack and take him back to Spain.”

“Saint Nicholas would kick you?”

“Well, not anymore,” Oscar said. “Now he just pretends to kick you.”

“And the six to eight black men?”

“Them, too.”

He considered this to be progressive, but in a way I think it’s almost more perverse than the original punishment. “I’m going to hurt you, but not really.” How many times have we fallen for that line? The fake slap invariably makes contact, adding the elements of shock and betrayal to what had previously been plain, old- fashioned fear. What kind of Santa spends his time pretending to kick people before stuffing them into a canvas sack? Then, of course, you’ve got the six to eight former slaves who could potentially go off at any moment. This, I think, is the greatest difference between us and the Dutch. While a certain segment of our population might be perfectly happy with the arrangement, if you told the average white American that six to eight nameless black men would be sneaking into his house in the middle of the night, he would barricade the doors and arm himself with whatever he could get his hands on.

386 allegro  Sep 20, 2014 9:44:16am

re: #381 Dark_Falcon

Every officer of that chapter of the fraternity and every member of it who had any part of planning that party should be indicted in a RICO case. Women were lured to a party under the guise of a fun night out, but in reality it was a criminal conspiracy to rape them.

As such, everyone who had a hand in planning the party in general or the rapes in specific should be liable to every crime committed.

Pretty much SOP for every frat party in history. In my day (early 70s) it was everclear punch that tasted like fruit punch but could lay you out with only a couple of drinks. This drug ‘em and rape ‘em mentality is part of the culture and, of course, it’s always the victim’s fault for being there.

387 Rightwingconspirator  Sep 20, 2014 9:45:18am

Drive by, gotta run out and get a photo gig done. Petapixel cracked me up this morning with this satire camera comparison. NSFW, and a touch pervy. Hilarious.

Humor: ‘Creepiest Canon Camera Review EVER’ Parodies Camera Comparisons

Video

388 darthstar  Sep 20, 2014 9:46:23am

re: #337 Dark_Falcon

Updinged for use of ‘excuse for a small group of gun fuckers to do a circle jerk’…probably the most accurate description yet and an improvement over the stuffy “Sam the Eagle” language.

389 Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 20, 2014 9:51:04am

re: #370 Amory Blaine

“We prefer our people be armed and most of them will be knee-crawling drunk,” reads a Facebook post by Wisconsin Poll Watcher Militia, screen captured on a blog at politicususa.com. “Some will be heading to some of Milwaukee, Racine, and Beloit’s worst areas, many of them will pass out on the way or get lost. We will be armed with a list of people to look for at each location and we intend to vomit stale beer on the shoes of any illegal voters.”

390 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 20, 2014 9:52:26am
391 darthstar  Sep 20, 2014 9:52:57am
392 FemNaziBitch  Sep 20, 2014 9:54:37am
393 FemNaziBitch  Sep 20, 2014 9:54:56am

re: #391 darthstar

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394 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 20, 2014 9:55:33am

re: #391 darthstar

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I’ve been seeing tweets and FB posts about those for a while now.
Very exciting!

395 Higgs Boson's Mate  Sep 20, 2014 9:56:41am

re: #391 darthstar

That says This is The Future to me.

396 darthstar  Sep 20, 2014 9:56:43am

re: #394 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’ve been seeing tweets and FB posts about those for a while now.
Very exciting!

Not very effective…yet, but cover the side of a skyscraper with it, and you get a pretty big surface to generate electricity.

397 austin_blue  Sep 20, 2014 10:00:03am

Cracking game on NBC right now. West Ham 2, Liverpool 1 at 29 minutes.

Morning all.

398 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 20, 2014 10:03:37am

re: #396 darthstar

Not very effective…yet, but cover the side of a skyscraper with it, and you get a pretty big surface to generate electricity.

True, but it’s exciting to see new applications. I am also intrigued with the solar roof “shingles”.
We use our solar panels as backup to the main grid, but have been using solar exclusively to operate our well pump and, in winter, the pumphouse lighting and heat tape. There are also electrical outlets in the power/battery room where I can charge phones, laptops, plug in the coffeemaker and portable convection cooktop, etc., during an emergency. The windmill will be tied in soon.

399 Romantic Heretic  Sep 20, 2014 10:04:38am

re: #338 Dr Lizardo

So, I went to a Czech Star Trek fan club meeting today - I was invited by a co-worker - and to my total and absolute lack of surprise, there not much different than their American counterparts.

Mercifully, there was no cosplay. Apparently, that comes later.

We saw Prelude To Axanar, a fanfilm, and I will say for a fanfilm, it’s quite good. It’s even got a few big names in it, such as Richard Hatch and Tony Todd and others.

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Caught Prelude a couple of weeks ago, and the film does look quite promising.

400 iceweasel  Sep 20, 2014 10:07:51am

re: #398 Backwoods_Sleuth

True, but it’s exciting to see new applications. I am also intrigued with the solar roof “shingles”.
We use our solar panels as backup to the main grid, but have been using solar exclusively to operate our well pump and, in winter, the pumphouse lighting and heat tape. There are also electrical outlets in the power/battery room where I can charge phones, laptops, plug in the coffeemaker and portable convection cooktop, etc., during an emergency. The windmill will be tied in soon.

That’s absolutely awesome.

401 Amory Blaine  Sep 20, 2014 10:08:51am

Here is teaparty conservative and vile scumbag Scott Walker in his own words:

Murphy: Right, right. We’ll back you any way we can. But what we were thinking about the crowd was, uh, was planting some troublemakers.

Walker: You know, well, the only problem with that — because we thought about that. The problem with — my only gut reaction to that would be, right now the lawmakers I’ve talked to have just completely had it with them. The public is not really fond of this. The teacher’s union did some polling and focus groups I think and found out that the public turned on them the minute they closed school down on them for a couple of days. The guys we’ve got left are largely from out of state and I keep dismissing it in all my press comments, saying ehh, they’re mostly from out of state. My only fear would be if there’s a ruckus caused is that would scare the public into thinking maybe the governor has to settle to avoid all these problems. You know, whereas I’ve said, hey, we can handle this, people can protest, this is Madison, you know, full of the ’60s liberals. Let ‘em protest. It’s not going to affect us. And as long as we go back to our homes and the majority of people are telling us we’re doing the right thing, let ‘em protest all they want. So that’s my gut reaction. I think it’s actually good if they’re constant, they’re noisy, but they’re quiet, nothing happens. Sooner or later the media stops finding them interesting.

So yeah, there’s that.

402 wrenchwench  Sep 20, 2014 10:15:00am

re: #396 darthstar

Not very effective…yet, but cover the side of a skyscraper with it, and you get a pretty big surface to generate electricity.

WINDOWS KILL MORE BIRDS THAN WINDMILLS!!!!1!

//true but stupid

403 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 20, 2014 10:16:46am

re: #400 iceweasel

That’s absolutely awesome.

We like to think so, :D!
Really, much as we would love being 100% independent from the grid, that’s not financially realistic for now. But we decided to not just throw up our hands in defeat. Having a solar-wind backup for essential electrically-powered things is very do-able and is much easier (and quieter and more convenient) than the stinky gas-powered generator we relied upon in the past (although, that is still there for backup use if needed, as well.)
The commercial mains go down often enough here in the backwoods, it just made sense to have a variety of backup systems.

404 CuriousLurker  Sep 20, 2014 10:32:21am

re: #385 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

In the US, Santa Claus (AKA “St. Nicholas”), assisted by elves and driven by flying reindeer, comes down the chimney every December 25 to deliver gifts to good little girls and boys, while optionally imbibing milk and cookies.

In Holland, he travels by boat to the shore where he transfers to horseback and is assisted by six to eight black men.

That reminds me a little bit of the Persian New Year in which Amu Noruz (“Uncle” Norooz, usually depicted as an older man, the same way we depict the outgoing year) is accompanied by the playful if somewhat comical Haji Firuz:

Hāji Piruz or Hajji Firuz, popularly (Persian: حاجی پیروز ‎) in the language of literature and satire Haji or Hajji also (Persian: هاجى ‎ a satire maker) is the traditional herald of Nowruz, the Persian New Year. He oversees celebrations for the new year perhaps as a remnant of the ancient Zoroastrian fire-keeper. His face is covered in soot and he is clad in bright red clothes and a felt hat. While ushering in Nowruz, Hajji Firuz plays a tambourine and sings “Hāji Firuz-e, sal-i-ye ruz-e” (It is Hāji Firuz time, It happens one day in a year). People of all ages gather around him and his troupe of musicians and listen to them play the drum, saz or kamancheh, and dance through the streets with tambourines and trumpets spreading good cheer and the news of the coming New Year.

en.wikipedia.org

Haji Firuz isn’t in any way seen as a threat—in fact he’s quite well loved by Iranians. Here’s a pop music depiction that’s been popular around Nowruz time for the past several years:

Youtube Video

405 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sep 20, 2014 10:37:34am

re: #402 wrenchwench

WINDOWS KILL MORE BIRDS THAN WINDMILLS!!!!1!

//true but stupid

As someone who frequently and reluctantly has to deal with Windows servers, I would testify that the claim is not without merit.

406 Charles Johnson  Sep 20, 2014 10:38:55am

Glenn Greenwald’s attempt to sabotage the New Zealand election with Kim Dotcom has been a spectacular failure.

407 austin_blue  Sep 20, 2014 10:41:29am

re: #406 Charles Johnson

Glenn Greenwald’ attempt to sabotage the New Zealand election with Kim Dotson has been a spectacular failure.

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It’s the NSA’s fault.

408 TedStriker  Sep 20, 2014 10:41:44am

Thanks for the quick response on your typo there, Charles.

As for Dotcom, GG, and Snowjob getting their asses handed to them in the NZ elections, I’ve just got one thing to say:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

409 BeachDem  Sep 20, 2014 10:41:45am

re: #367 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

She’s acquainted with many Christian tenants and principals.

You took the words right out of my mouth dictionary. (Are the principals also tenants in the tiny rooms of her mind?)

410 Charles Johnson  Sep 20, 2014 10:45:06am

re: #408 TedStriker

Charles, slight typo there…it’s Kim Dot>com, not Dotson.

Unfortunately.

Auto-correct strikes again.

411 wrenchwench  Sep 20, 2014 10:45:25am

Unverified:

If true, at first I thought, ‘this could motivate the Turks’. Then I thought, ‘they don’t really care for the PKK either.’ But if it DID happen in Turkey, that could still be a motivator.

Two recent news articles from the area:

Turkey denies paying ransom in deal that freed 49 Islamic State hostages

[…]

MIT officials in Ankara said the hostages had been held in the vicinity of Mosul since they were seized and that their location was switched seven times, Hurriyet said. MIT said it had had at least five opportunities to free them, but military clashes prevented it.

It was the Islamic State that brought the hostages to the border town of Tal Abyad, and released them, according to this account. They boarded buses with curtains drawn across the windows and crossed to Akcakale on the Turkish side. They were then driven to Sanliurfa, about 30 miles away.

Turkey closed the Tal Abyad-Akcakale crossing earlier this year after the Islamic State captured the Syrian side.

Read more here: sunherald.com

[…]

Turkey opens border to 45,000 Kurds fleeing Isis in Syria

Tens of thousands of Syrian Kurds have fled across the border into Turkey in the last 24 hours to escape Islamic State (Isis) fighters, the Turkish government has said.

The country opened eight crossing points along a 20-mile (32km) stretch from Akcakale to Mursitpinar, allowing about 45,000 Kurds to escape from the Islamist extremists, the deputy prime minister, Numan Kurtulmus, said on Saturday.

The exodus began as Isis fighters seized control of 60 Kurdish villages near the border in a two-day campaign as they approach the town of Kobane, also known as Ain al-Arab.

[…]

And a tweet about the hostage release:

412 TedStriker  Sep 20, 2014 10:47:21am

re: #410 Charles Johnson

Auto-correct strikes again.

Figured as much.

413 BeachDem  Sep 20, 2014 10:47:36am
414 austin_blue  Sep 20, 2014 10:52:23am

re: #413 BeachDem

Since deleted, from their facebook: littlegreenfootballs.com

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What a pack of scumbags!

415 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 20, 2014 10:58:17am

re: #413 BeachDem

Since deleted, from their facebook: littlegreenfootballs.com

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FEARLESS!!!11!!!

Well…until they get caught…

416 CuriousLurker  Sep 20, 2014 10:58:57am

re: #367 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

She’s acquainted with many Christian tenants and principals.

Heh, I’d be a lot more inclined to take a person’s comments seriously if they at least had a good grasp of their mother tongue’s vocabulary. If it was just one word and only happened once I’d be willing to chalk it up to a typo or even a smartphone or tablet’s autocomplete “feature”, but she used two words incorrectly more than once.

If someone doesn’t have a good command of their own native language, then I automatically assume their ignorance also extends into other areas and increases exponentially when they begin discussing subjects that are even less familiar to them.

There’s no need to attach a bell to a fool. —Danish Proverb

417 BeachDem  Sep 20, 2014 11:06:51am

re: #383 Amory Blaine

A great majority of self described conservatives would support the groups actions. Walker himself has used signing the recall as a political weapon.

re: #384 Dark_Falcon

I disagree, intensely.

BBL

You may disagree, but it happened:

petitions to recall Gov. Scott Walker are being targeted by an anonymous group. The group, fronted for by Citizens for Responsible Government, a conservative Milwaukee organization, filed freedom of information requests and obtained the names, job titles, and salaries of every teacher in Janesville, then produced a flier…At the bottom of the flier is a “Parents’ Rights Protection Form” urging parents to send it to Superintendent Karen Schulte and request that “my child be assigned to a classroom taught by a non-radical teacher during the 2012-2013 school year.” […]

and

Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported, an aide of the governor called Joshua Inglett, a University of Wisconsin-Platteville rising junior, to tell him he was not getting the position after it came to light the student signed a petition to force Walker’s 2012 recall election…The conservative blog rightwisconsin.com claims the fact that Inglett signed the petition led to the nomination withdrawal.

418 Eventual Carrion  Sep 20, 2014 11:21:20am
419 Dark_Falcon  Sep 20, 2014 11:25:18am

re: #417 BeachDem

There is a difference between faulting someone for saying you shouldn’t be holding your current job and going to a polling place armed and trying to determine if black people coming in to vote have any trouble with the law you can use to keep them from voting.

The first is indeed retaliation, but in my understanding is legal. The second is a blatant attempt at voter intimidation. The intent of the “Wisconsin Poll Watcher Militia” can be summed up in this 1924 election refrain from Chicago:

“Who’ll carry the 41st and 42nd Wards? O’Banion, in his pistol pockets!”

420 Eventual Carrion  Sep 20, 2014 11:29:06am

re: #395 Higgs Boson’s Mate

That says This is The Future to me.

If you could multi-layer them on top of each other that would multiply the generation per square foot taken up immensely.

421 wrenchwench  Sep 20, 2014 11:31:05am

re: #418 Eventual Carrion

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You gotta ditch the egg. The egg says ‘noob’.

422 Amory Blaine  Sep 20, 2014 11:34:41am

For all I know, the group could be the troublemakers Scott Walker considered unleashing on kindergarten teachers because conservatives certainly would like to bash liberals/teachers/blacks/etc. Look at any and all comments to any article at the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, or come up here to any south side bar in Milwaukee, don’t take much effort to get to the conservative goals and thoughts.

423 Bubblehead II  Sep 20, 2014 11:35:24am

Hey WW. What is your take on this?

Boise cyclist hopes new bike camera will help increase awareness

BOISE — When bicyclists hit the road for a ride, they deal with a number of dangers. One of the biggest: the drivers using the same streets to get to where they’re going.

424 CuriousLurker  Sep 20, 2014 11:37:03am

re: #421 wrenchwench

You gotta ditch the egg. The egg says ‘noob’.

Seconded.

It’ll attract trolls & spammers and make non-noobs suspicious of you.

425 Dark_Falcon  Sep 20, 2014 11:40:41am

re: #421 wrenchwench

You gotta ditch the egg. The egg says ‘noob’.

re: #424 CuriousLurker

Seconded.

It’ll attract trolls & spammers and make non-noobs suspicious of you.

Thirded. Choose a favorite photo of something non-human if you want to stay anonymous.

426 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 20, 2014 11:41:18am

re: #418 Eventual Carrion

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Got yerself another lizard follower…

427 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 20, 2014 11:42:37am

re: #419 Dark_Falcon

There is a difference between faulting someone for saying you shouldn’t be holding your current job and going to a polling place armed and trying to determine if black people coming in to vote have any trouble with the law you can use to keep them from voting.

The first is indeed retaliation, but in my understanding is legal. The second is a blatant attempt at voter intimidation. The intent of the “Wisconsin Poll Watcher Militia” can be summed up in this 1924 election refrain from Chicago:

“Who’ll carry the 41st and 42nd Wards? O’Banion, in his pistol pockets!”

NYC was pulling that shite long before Chicago and it wasn’t Democrats back then.

428 BeachDem  Sep 20, 2014 11:43:06am

re: #419 Dark_Falcon

There is a difference between faulting someone for saying you shouldn’t be holding your current job and going to a polling place armed and trying to determine if black people coming in to vote have any trouble with the law you can use to keep them from voting.

The first is indeed retaliation, but in my understanding is legal. The second is a blatant attempt at voter intimidation. The intent of the “Wisconsin Poll Watcher Militia” can be summed up in this 1924 election refrain from Chicago:

“Who’ll carry the 41st and 42nd Wards? O’Banion, in his pistol pockets!”

So, post-vote intimidation/retaliation is okay, but pre-vote intimidation/retaliation is not. Got it.

The discussion was about whether conservatives would support their actions, not whether they were legal or not.

429 GeneJockey  Sep 20, 2014 11:44:08am

re: #423 Bubblehead II

Hey WW. What is your take on this?

Boise cyclist hopes new bike camera will help increase awareness

BOISE — When bicyclists hit the road for a ride, they deal with a number of dangers. One of the biggest: the drivers using the same streets to get to where they’re going.

I’m not sure it makes you any safer in the moment, beyond what a flashing light will do, but there may be two closely related benefits - first, if you are hit, you’ll be able to go after the driver and prove he was at fault. Second, if drivers know they’re being recorded, they may give cyclists a wider berth.

430 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 20, 2014 11:49:04am

re: #418 Eventual Carrion

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One of my followers just RT’d my RT of your tweet.
He has 10X more followers than I do.
Well done!

431 Dark_Falcon  Sep 20, 2014 11:50:31am

re: #427 Backwoods_Sleuth

NYC was pulling that shite long before Chicago and it wasn’t Democrats back then.

Actually, O’Banion was supporting the Republicans in 1924 (this was back when Chicago had a functioning GOP) I deliberately chose a example of such intimidation that favored Republicans to prevent the accusation that I was committing the logical fallacy of tu quoque.

432 Bubblehead II  Sep 20, 2014 11:51:21am

re: #429 GeneJockey

I’m not sure it makes you any safer in the moment, beyond what a flashing light will do, but there may be two closely related benefits - first, if you are hit, you’ll be able to go after the driver and prove he was at fault. Second, if drivers know they’re being recorded, they may give cyclists a wider berth.

Pretty much my thoughts as well.

433 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sep 20, 2014 11:55:45am

re: #431 Dark_Falcon

Actually, O’Banion was supporting the Republicans in 1924 (this was back when Chicago had a functioning GOP) I deliberately chose a example of such intimidation that favored Republicans to prevent the accusation that I was committing the logical fallacy of tu quoque.

NYC was pulling that shite in the 1800s.

434 stpaulbear  Sep 20, 2014 11:58:41am

re: #423 Bubblehead II

Hey WW. What is your take on this?

Boise cyclist hopes new bike camera will help increase awareness

BOISE — When bicyclists hit the road for a ride, they deal with a number of dangers. One of the biggest: the drivers using the same streets to get to where they’re going.

Flashing front and rear lights have been a common accessory for bicyclists in Mpls/St. Paul for a long time, and it’s very helpful. I was using them when they first came out in the 80’s. I don’t know how many bikers are using cameras here, but It would be great for documenting how often they blow through stop signs and stop lights.

In MN, cyclists are given full rights that motor vehicles have. They are allowed to use a full vehicle lane if the shoulder is too narrow, although I’ve gotten held up behind a bike using the full lane when there is no one parked anywhere on the street and they should have (by law) moved over into that lane.

I live only three miles from work, but there are over 20 stoplights on that route. Bicyclists like to brag that they can bike to work faster than I can drive the route, but if I could cut between all the cars in front of me and then run every stoplight, I could make it to work a lot faster too. I’d love to see the video of those cyclists doing the same route that I take.

…and keep your damned fixie off my lawn!!

435 Dark_Falcon  Sep 20, 2014 11:59:20am

re: #433 Backwoods_Sleuth

NYC was pulling that shite in the 1800s.

I know, but I’m from Chicago so I prefer to use examples from close to home.

436 b_sharp  Sep 20, 2014 12:09:10pm

re: #421 wrenchwench

You gotta ditch the egg. The egg says ‘noob’.

You have something to say about my egg?

437 Bubblehead II  Sep 20, 2014 12:11:47pm

Cool. Due to Spain being a jerk, the Registers bringing their LOHAN project to the States. More specifically, New Mexico’s Spaceport America

grumble Hit post too soon grumble.

Don’t let the cheesy writing style and Brit humor of the Registers reporters put you off. There is some very serious engineering and code writing involved in this project. It will be interesting to see the results.

438 wrenchwench  Sep 20, 2014 12:14:29pm

re: #423 Bubblehead II

Hey WW. What is your take on this?

Boise cyclist hopes new bike camera will help increase awareness

BOISE — When bicyclists hit the road for a ride, they deal with a number of dangers. One of the biggest: the drivers using the same streets to get to where they’re going.

The woman they interviewed kept emphasizing that it would make cyclists FEEL safer. I’m not a big fan of that as a reason to do things. That’s the same reason they give for making bike lanes, it will make cyclists FEEL safer. Meanwhile in the case of bike lanes, it is actually making them LESS safe. In the video, it showed a guy riding in a DZBL, a door zone bike lane. If somebody opened their door while parked there, that would take out a cyclist.

Having a record of the license of a vehicle that hit you would be invaluable, and worth running the camera, even though being hit from behind is about the most rare kind of bicycle wreck. A 360 degree camera set up would be better. It’s more likely a car will pull out or turn in front of you. (That’s only accounting for wrecks that are the fault of the driver. Cyclist-caused wrecks are at least 50% of wrecks.)

The only thing that makes cyclists ACTUALLY safer is education, mainly
for the cyclist, but also for auto drivers.

And as stpaulbear said, the blinky lights are good. It would also be good if drivers could tell they were being recorded, but it’s not clear to me that they would, even if they saw the Fly6 installed.

439 wrenchwench  Sep 20, 2014 12:15:43pm

re: #436 b_sharp

You have something to say about my egg?

That’s a good egg.

440 wrenchwench  Sep 20, 2014 12:18:57pm

re: #437 Bubblehead II

Cool. Due to Spain being a jerk, the Registers bringing their LOHAN project to the States. More specifically, New Mexico’s Spaceport America

Oh, good. I was afraid that by the time they got that thing built, it would be obsolete or something. Taxpayers in a couple of counties actually voted in a sales tax increase on themselves to pay for it.

441 Bubblehead II  Sep 20, 2014 12:27:49pm

re: #440 wrenchwench

Oh, good. I was afraid that by the time they got that thing built, it would be obsolete or something. Taxpayers in a couple of counties actually voted in a sales tax increase on themselves to pay for it.

Well it is being used by Space X for their Falcon 9R and Virgin Galatic’s SpaceShip 2. So it is bring in some money I assume.

442 stpaulbear  Sep 20, 2014 12:27:50pm

re: #438 wrenchwench

My only bike accident with a car was when someone who’d been sitting in their car threw the door open just as I was riding past. I got shish-kabobbed on the upper corner of the door, flew straight up in the air and landed flat on my back in the street. I lucked out in that I wasn’t injured severely although it took over 30 stitches to close the wound.

I ran into the woman the next day while I was back at the site looking for my keys and she was pissed that I’d given an incorrect description of her car and that I’d thrown her car door out of alignment. When the accident happened, she kept trying to say she was too busy to give info, but a total stranger had stopped to gather info and he also drove me to the hospital. I wish I would have given the woman a big hug and told her it was OK, mostly because I would have gotten blood all over her clothing and it would have been such sweet revenge.

443 wrenchwench  Sep 20, 2014 12:34:44pm

re: #442 stpaulbear

My only bike accident with a car was when someone who’d been sitting in their car threw the door open just as I was riding past. I got shish-kabobbed on the upper corner of the door, flew straight up in the air and landed flat on my back in the street. I lucked out in that I wasn’t injured severely although it took over 30 stitches to close the wound.

I ran into the woman the next day while I was back at the site looking for my keys and she was pissed that I’d given an incorrect description of her car and that I’d thrown her car door out of alignment. When the accident happened, she kept trying to say she was too busy to give info, but a total stranger had stopped to gather info and he also drove me to the hospital. I wish I would have given the woman a big hug and told her it was OK, mostly because I would have gotten blood all over her clothing and it would have been such sweet revenge.

She should be prosecuted, but bled upon would have been nice too.

444 Floral Giraffe  Sep 20, 2014 3:44:28pm

We just had a bicyclist killed here. Not sure what/if the prosecution is going to be. Driver of the car was not arrested at the scene…


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