Glenn Greenwald Will Speak to a Koch-Funded Event Named After a Pro-Lynching Racist Dixiecrat Congressman

Other group headed by Allen West and funded in part by the Koch brothers
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“Only a short time ago… their [black] ancestors roamed the jungles of Africa in absolute savagery…[Y]ou do not know where the beast is among them. Somewhere in that black mass of people is the man who would outrage your wife or your child, and every man who lives in the country knows it.”
— Congressman Hatton W. Sumners

The Event:

Hatton W. Sumners Distinguished Lecture Series with Glenn Greenwald

WHEN: Friday, April 3, 2015
Luncheon 12:00PM - 1:30PM

WHERE: Omni Mandalay Hotel
221 East Las Colinas Boulevard
Irving, TX 75039

The Organization:

Allen B. West Allen West, President & CEO

National Center for Policy Analysis CEO Allen West is a Fox News Contributor, a Senior Fellow at the London Center for Policy Research, and the author of Guardian of the Republic.

NCPA Funding:

The Koch Brothers

The National Center for Policy Analysis (NCPA) is a free market think tank primarily funded by private foundations established by wealthy conservative business families and billionaires, including Charles and David Koch. It is a “communications and research foundation dedicated to providing free market solutions to today’s public policy problems … [and] prides itself on aggressively marketing its products for maximum impact by ‘targeting key political leaders and special interest groups, establishing on-going ties with members of the print and electronic media, and testifying before Congress, federal agencies, state lawmakers, and national organizations.’” — NCRP, The Strategic Philanthropy of Conservative Foundations[1]It develops and promotes private, free-market alternatives to government regulation and control, and encourages reliance on the private sector.

About Hatton W. Sumners:

Early in his career, he spoke out against the Dyer Anti-Lynching Bill, claiming that the bill’s sponsors did not have adequate statistics to prove their case, that the bill would increase racial mob violence, and that the bill ultimately impinged on states’ rights.

Speaking on the House floor while some African-Americans watched from the balcony, Sumners continued to attack the Dyer Anti-Lynching Bill with racist tropes. “Only a short time ago… their ancestors roamed the jungles of Africa in absolute savagery…[Y]ou do not know where the beast is among them. Somewhere in that black mass of people is the man who would outrage your wife or your child, and every man who lives in the country knows it.”

Further on Hatton W. Sumners:

Hatton W. Sumners of Texas opposed anti-lynching laws during his 17 terms in the House of Representatives, arguing that the individual states could handle the problem of mob violence against African Americans.

Southern Democrats rebuffed the measure, mustering familiar practical and constitutional defenses. Hatton W. Sumners of Texas, a Dallas attorney who later served 16 years as chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, led the defense. In two lengthy debates, Sumners compared the bill to an act of legislative “mob” violence and suggested Congress let southern states resolve the lynching issue on their own. “I say to you that you cannot pass this bill unless you pass it under the influence of the same spirit which this bill denounces, viz., the mob spirit,” Sumners said to laughter and applause on the House Floor. “You say that the folks down in the South are not doing this thing fast enough, and the folks in the South say the officers are not doing this thing fast enough, and you each get ropes and they go after the criminal and you go after the Constitution.”

Further reading on Hatton W. Sumners: At the Hands of Persons Unknown: The Lynching of Black America

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Hat Tip: ItGoesTo301

Related:

UPDATE at 4/3/15 1:08:45 pm by Gus

The momentous day has arrived. Allen West and Glenn Greenwald — together at last.

Previous thoughts from Glenn Greenwald on Allen West:

Today’s event also comes on the heels of a heart to heart between Glenn Greenwald and Glenn Beck.

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500 comments

1 De Kolta Chair  Feb 10, 2015 4:47:26pm

“Sumners compared the bill to an act of legislative ‘mob’ violence and suggested Congress let southern states resolve the lynching issue on their own.”

Where have we heard that before, and since?

2 WhatEVs  Feb 10, 2015 4:48:10pm

Stolen from b.d.

Take a look at the past speakers in that lecture series

ncpa.org

It is a roll-call of the most crazed in Wingnutville.

John Stossel
Alan Simpson
Newt Gingrich
Robert Novak
Ken Starr
Henry Hyde
Bill O’Reilly
Benjamin Netanyahu
Bernard Goldberg
Rick Perry
Dick Morris
Charles Krauthammer
Karl Rove
Clarence Thomas
Jonah Goldberg
John Bolton
Steve Forbes
Frank Luntz
Liz Cheney
Huckabee
Cal Thomas & Bob Beckel
Andrew P. Napolitano
Ben Carson
Allen West
Ron Paul

Heck of a list to join Glenn

3 Charles Johnson  Feb 10, 2015 4:48:55pm

John Cole is already pissed off that you posted this about his hero.

4 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2015 4:50:13pm

STATE’S RIGHTS!!11!! AMERICA SUCKS!!11!!

5 Decatur Deb  Feb 10, 2015 4:51:17pm

re: #2 WhatEVs

Can we say for the nth time that Greenwald is not part of “the Left”? If we had a Red Pope he would excommunicate GG and “turn him over to the secular arm”.

6 Gus  Feb 10, 2015 4:51:22pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

John Cole is already pissed off that you posted this about his hero.

Why? I was going to call Sumners “pro-lynching” but settled with “opposed to anti-lynching legislation.”

7 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2015 4:51:39pm

Is he calling it again in lieu of actually attending?

8 b.d.  Feb 10, 2015 4:52:10pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

John Cole is already pissed off that you posted this about his hero.

Cole’s always pissed about something, this might as well be it.

9 Charles Johnson  Feb 10, 2015 4:52:57pm
10 Gus  Feb 10, 2015 4:53:09pm

“Only a short time ago… their [black] ancestors roamed the jungles of Africa in absolute savagery…[Y]ou do not know where the beast is among them. Somewhere in that black mass of people is the man who would outrage your wife or your child, and every man who lives in the country knows it.”
— Congressman Hatton W. Sumners

11 b.d.  Feb 10, 2015 4:53:46pm

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

Is he calling it again in lieu of actually attending?

Are you crazy?!? The Obama goonsquad would arrest Glenn the very second he set foot on American soil!

12 Decatur Deb  Feb 10, 2015 4:55:15pm

Who it is named for is not the issue. Look at the fuckn’ alumni, and find the funding.

13 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2015 4:55:22pm

Goes with the Grammy discussion way downstairs, but possibly here as well:

14 Charles Johnson  Feb 10, 2015 4:57:09pm

I’m guessing Cole didn’t even read the post before he reacted.

15 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 10, 2015 4:59:24pm

re: #6 Gus

Why? I was going to call Sumners “pro-lynching” but settled with “opposed to anti-lynching legislation.”

He was explicitly pro-lynching.

16 Dark_Falcon  Feb 10, 2015 5:00:23pm

re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth

Goes with the Grammy discussion way downstairs, but possibly here as well:

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There’s truth in that, but in one very important way Kanye is smarter than Jimi Hendrix was: He doesn’t use drugs. As a result he’ll likely live far longer than Hendrix did.

Trite I know, but after Whitney Houston’s daughter’s having OD’d I feel it needs saying. If you need to get high, stick to Mary Jane. It’s a lot less likely to kill you.

17 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2015 5:01:05pm

re: #16 Dark_Falcon

There’s truth in that, but in one very important way Kanye is smarter than Jimi Hendrix was: He doesn’t use drugs. As a result he’ll likely live far longer than Hendrix did.

Trite I know, but after Whitney Houston’s daughter’s having OD’d I feel it needs saying. If you need to get high, stick to Mary Jane. It’s a lot less likely to kill you.

Jimi had real talent. Kanye has a gimmick.

18 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 10, 2015 5:01:54pm

Here’s some more text that the wiki omits. He called lynching the “preservation of the race”.

19 Gus  Feb 10, 2015 5:02:21pm

re: #15 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

He was explicitly pro-lynching.

Added this:

Was Hatton W. Sumners pro-lynching and should Glenn Greenwald cancel his appearance before this group named after an odious and pernicious man — Hatton W. Sumners.

Discuss.

20 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2015 5:02:53pm

re: #16 Dark_Falcon

There’s truth in that, but in one very important way Kanye is smarter than Jimi Hendrix was: He doesn’t use drugs. As a result he’ll likely live far longer than Hendrix did.

Trite I know, but after Whitney Houston’s daughter’s having OD’d I feel it needs saying. If you need to get high, stick to Mary Jane. It’s a lot less likely to kill you.

And Bobbi Brown’s “accident” is now being investigated as anything but. OTOH, not sure why you thought it was necessary to bring her into the conversation.

21 Gus  Feb 10, 2015 5:03:42pm

re: #18 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Here’s some more text that the wiki omits. He called lynching the “preservation of the race”.

Any way to extract text?

22 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 10, 2015 5:05:11pm

re: #21 Gus

Not that I know of, but you could type up these few sentences and give a link.
I also think the whole speech is in the congressional record somewhere - could even be in some pdf online.

23 Decatur Deb  Feb 10, 2015 5:06:11pm

re: #7 Backwoods_Sleuth

Is he calling it again in lieu of actually attending?

Greenwald should stop by Birmingham. He could get married there now.

24 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2015 5:08:45pm

re: #21 Gus

Any way to extract text?

saved the excerpt as a screenshot:

page link:
books.google.com

25 Gus  Feb 10, 2015 5:08:50pm

re: #22 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Not that I know of, but you could type up these few sentences and give a link.
I also think the whole speech is in the congressional record somewhere - could even be in some pdf online.

Did a screenshot of the paragraph.

26 b.d.  Feb 10, 2015 5:14:55pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

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27 Gus  Feb 10, 2015 5:15:00pm

Was going to ignore this but after reading about Sumners.

28 b.d.  Feb 10, 2015 5:17:07pm

re: #27 Gus

Was going to ignore this but after reading about Sumners.

Like how “Only Nixon can go to China” only the true progressive Greenwald can breach this particular racist wingnut bubble.

//

29 Thanos  Feb 10, 2015 5:17:41pm

There are thinktanks and there are stinktanks, it’s pretty obvious which of those NCPA is.

30 Charles Johnson  Feb 10, 2015 5:19:10pm
31 Charles Johnson  Feb 10, 2015 5:34:04pm

Looks like I’m’a hafta promote this bad boy.

The Greenwaldians are already starting to rage like a hornet’s nest poked with a stick.

32 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 10, 2015 5:37:33pm

I found the whole speech. The interesting part (after “states’ rights”) starts here:

archive.org

33 Charles Johnson  Feb 10, 2015 5:41:30pm
34 Charles Johnson  Feb 10, 2015 5:41:54pm

That’s who Glenn Greenwald is supporting with this speech.

35 Gus  Feb 10, 2015 5:45:47pm

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

saved the excerpt as a screenshot:

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page link:
books.google.com

Thanks! Had already done one by then! :D

36 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 10, 2015 5:50:15pm
37 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 10, 2015 5:51:35pm
38 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 10, 2015 5:52:59pm
39 Charles Johnson  Feb 10, 2015 5:53:03pm

re: #37 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Fucking horrible. Ugh.

40 Gus  Feb 10, 2015 5:54:50pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

Fucking horrible. Ugh.

If you feel like adding those to the post I’d appreciate it. Limited bandwidth here.

41 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 10, 2015 5:55:29pm
42 Gus  Feb 10, 2015 5:56:01pm

Pretty bad? Worse than I thought?

43 b.d.  Feb 10, 2015 5:56:12pm

re: #38 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

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Thank you for finding/posting that. What a piece of work he was and they are celebrating his spirit in 2015?

44 Gus  Feb 10, 2015 5:57:22pm

re: #43 b.d.

Thank you for finding/posting that. What a piece of work he was and they are celebrating his spirit in 2015?

There’s also a scholarship fund named after him.

45 b.d.  Feb 10, 2015 5:58:15pm

re: #41 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

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Holy smokes

46 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 10, 2015 5:58:16pm
47 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 10, 2015 6:00:46pm
48 Gus  Feb 10, 2015 6:02:15pm

Maybe I should revise it to pro-lynching again?

49 Gus  Feb 10, 2015 6:03:03pm

Glenn Greenwald to Lecture Group Named After Pro-Lynching Racist Congressman?

50 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 10, 2015 6:06:20pm

Hatton then goes on to whine that his speech will be misunderstood as excusing lynching, and he’s allegedly against it. Even though of course he laid down the theoretical basis for it.

51 Gus  Feb 10, 2015 6:07:03pm

re: #50 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Hatton then goes on to whine that his speech will be misunderstood as excusing lynching, and he’s allegedly against it. Even though of course he laid down the theoretical basis for it.

States rights!

52 WhatEVs  Feb 10, 2015 6:08:03pm

re: #5 Decatur Deb

Can we say for the nth time that Greenwald is not part of “the Left”? If we had a Red Pope he would excommunicate GG and “turn him over to the secular arm”.

53 Charles Johnson  Feb 10, 2015 6:13:04pm
54 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 10, 2015 6:16:11pm

I can already see the excuses. “But he was a Dem!” “But what about Byrd!” Feh.

55 b.d.  Feb 10, 2015 6:16:34pm

I wonder if Pierre is aware that Glenn is courting other billionaires?

56 Charles Johnson  Feb 10, 2015 6:26:27pm
57 Gus  Feb 10, 2015 6:27:09pm

May as well call it the Nathan Bedford Forrest Distinguished Lecture Series.

58 Gus  Feb 10, 2015 6:30:26pm

“Only a short time ago… their [black] ancestors roamed the jungles of Africa in absolute savagery…[Y]ou do not know where the beast is among them. Somewhere in that black mass of people is the man who would outrage your wife or your child, and every man who lives in the country knows it.”
— Congressman Hatton W. Sumners

Distinguished!

59 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 10, 2015 6:34:55pm

Right-wing think-tank is a contradiction in terms.

60 Charles Johnson  Feb 10, 2015 6:35:36pm

Hope you don’t mind that I’m editing your headline. Headlines are my specialty.

61 Gus  Feb 10, 2015 6:38:36pm

re: #59 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Right-wing think-tank is a contradiction in terms.

Sort of like white supremacy.

62 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2015 6:38:50pm

re: #60 Charles Johnson

Hope you don’t mind that I’m editing your headline. Headlines are my specialty.

hoping this gets promoted soon.

63 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2015 6:40:12pm

re: #62 Backwoods_Sleuth

hoping this gets promoted soon.

YAY!

64 Gus  Feb 10, 2015 6:40:58pm

Oh. NCPA is funded by Koch. Don’t know who funds Hatton W. Sumners Foundation.

65 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 10, 2015 6:41:25pm

re: #60 Charles Johnson

“Glenn Greenwald Will Speak to a Koch-Funded Group Named After a Pro-Lynching Racist Dixiecrat Congressman”

One bit of pedantry: the lecture is sponsored by the Sumners foundation, so it’s fair to say he will be speaking before that group too, but NCPA should not be conflated with that foundation. I think we mean NCPA when we say “Koch-funded” (though I wouldn’t be surprised if HWSF is also Koch-funded).

66 Gus  Feb 10, 2015 6:43:31pm

re: #64 Gus

Oh. NCPA is funded by Koch. Don’t know who funds Hatton W. Sumners Foundation.

Here’s there stated purpose. Looks weird.

The purpose of the Hatton W. Sumners Foundation, as stated in its governing documents, is to encourage the study, teaching and research into the science and art of self-government, to the end that the American People may understand the fundamental principles of democracy and be guided thereby in shaping governmental policies.

To that end, the Hatton W. Sumners Foundation supports programs and activities that will result in an increased understanding by the public of the benefits of individual freedom and civic and personal responsibility, and the corresponding threat to liberty posed by a lack of informed, active participation by citizens at all levels of government.

67 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 10, 2015 6:43:53pm

re: #59 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Right-wing think-tank is a contradiction in terms.

It’s “think” tank.

Not “Carefully considered, scrupulously honest, empirical, unbiased, not-an-orgy-of-fallacies, intellectual-simony free” tank.

The EEG blips, they’re technically thinking.

68 Charles Johnson  Feb 10, 2015 6:44:11pm

Fair enough. I edited it to remove that correlation, but I’d be willing to bet that with a little digging it would turn out to be true.

69 Gus  Feb 10, 2015 6:45:09pm
70 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2015 6:45:17pm

re: #64 Gus

Oh. NCPA is funded by Koch. Don’t know who funds Hatton W. Sumners Foundation.

sources of funds, but no names:

ncpa.org

71 Charles Johnson  Feb 10, 2015 6:45:58pm
72 Kragar  Feb 10, 2015 6:47:14pm

This Sumners character sounds like a hell of a guy:

Early in his career, he spoke out against the Dyer Anti-Lynching Bill, claiming that the bill’s sponsors did not have adequate statistics to prove their case, that the bill would increase racial mob violence, and that the bill ultimately impinged on states’ rights.

73 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2015 6:48:07pm

National Center for Policy Analysis

Affiliations: NCPA is a member of the State Policy Network, a network of national and local right-wing think tanks, and of townhall.com, a right-wing internet portal created by the Heritage Foundation.
Publications: NCPA sponsors two of its own syndicated columnists: Pete du Pont (Scripps Howard) and Bruce Bartlett (Creators Syndicate). Bartlett’s column appears under contract twice a week in the Washington Times and in the Detroit News.

74 Justanotherhuman  Feb 10, 2015 6:48:23pm

How much is the fee they’re paying GG? That’s all that matters to him.

Stalinists, RWNJs, any of the fringe elements will invite him and get him as long as they pay.

Has the “brilliant’ billionaire Omidyar learned anything yet about this grifter?

75 TedStriker  Feb 10, 2015 6:51:07pm

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

And Bobbi Brown’s “accident” is now being investigated as anything but. OTOH, not sure why you thought it was necessary to bring her into the conversation.

Seeing this is Dark we’re taking about. it’s about scoring points, as always.

76 nearly-headless smith25  Feb 10, 2015 6:51:47pm

re: #66 Gus

Here’s there stated purpose. Looks weird.

Self-Government

People that use that term also call me a Statist

Don’t trust em

77 Jenner7  Feb 10, 2015 6:52:06pm

This pretty much sums up my feelings on the matter…

78 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 10, 2015 6:53:18pm

I predict the wingnut response to this Hatton Sumners thing:

HURR HURR DEMOCRAT!!!!1!!!!

79 Varek Raith  Feb 10, 2015 6:54:35pm

Most interesting.

80 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2015 6:54:38pm

re: #77 Jenner7

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This pretty much sums up my feelings on the matter…

Hannity has a job in ginning up fear entertainment, not journalism.

81 ObserverArt  Feb 10, 2015 6:56:09pm

re: #33 Charles Johnson

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I love body language. Anyone else think that hand position and overall look on Charles Koch says I have control over a lot of power? What is he doing, blessing all the people he bought with his money?

82 SirMixALot  Feb 10, 2015 6:56:33pm

This type of behavior just makes me believe Greenwald and Snowden are right wingers who relased the NSA documents not as a means of whistle blowing and protecting civil liberties, but as a means of sabotaging the Obama Administration in diplomatic relations and national security.

83 Gus  Feb 10, 2015 6:56:55pm

The NCPA and the Hatton W. Sumners Foundation are proud to host journalist, lawyer and author Glenn Greenwald for a luncheon on Friday, April 3rd, at the Omni Mandalay in Irving, Texas

84 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 10, 2015 6:58:40pm

re: #81 ObserverArt

I love body language. Anyone else think that hand position and overall look on Charles Koch says I have control over a lot of power? What is he doing, blessing all the people he bought with his money?

Looks like a zombie hungry for braaaains.

85 Justanotherhuman  Feb 10, 2015 6:59:15pm

re: #82 SirMixALot

This type of behavior just makes me believe Greenwald and Snowden are right wingers who relased the NSA documents not as a means of whistle blowing and protecting civil liberties, but as a means of sabotaging the Obama Administration in diplomatic relations and national security.

That thought had occurred to me long ago, too.

86 Decatur Deb  Feb 10, 2015 6:59:33pm

re: #82 SirMixALot

This type of behavior just makes me believe Greenwald and Snowden are right wingers who relased the NSA documents not as a means of whistle blowing and protecting civil liberties, but as a means of sabotaging the Obama Administration in diplomatic relations and national security.

Plausible. That crew is sure as hell not liberals.

87 ObserverArt  Feb 10, 2015 6:59:54pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

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“marginally better writing skills.”

That’s gonna leave a mark.

88 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 10, 2015 7:02:36pm
Host a table of ten (10) guest luncheon tickets (total cost of $750) and VIP reception access to all 10 of your luncheon guests! Your guests will have an opportunity to be photographed with Glenn prior to the luncheon. Hosting a Table is a great way to advertise your company with program acknowledgment! Early Registration saving of $100.

That’s way too much money and trouble to get a selfie with GG.

89 ObserverArt  Feb 10, 2015 7:04:32pm

re: #84 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Looks like a zombie hungry for braaaains.

Well then, if that is the case, he is lording over zombies. Which is also true.

90 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2015 7:04:55pm

re: #88 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s way too much money and trouble to get a selfie with GG.

Too much of a chance of catching cooties.

91 Justanotherhuman  Feb 10, 2015 7:05:23pm

And Greenwald’s hiring from the WSJ? What next, someone from the Daily Caller?

92 Decatur Deb  Feb 10, 2015 7:07:05pm

re: #88 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s way too much money and trouble to get a selfie with GG.

How much does it cost to have a photo without GG?

93 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2015 7:07:38pm

OK, I just spent more money than I ever have before for a DVD, but used my LGF Associate pass at Amazon to buy Jon Stewart’s “Rosewater”.

Just my way of saying “thank you” to Jon for all he has done to make me laugh and cry, and hoping he is leaving Comedy Central to make more documentaries.

94 jaunte  Feb 10, 2015 7:07:57pm

re: #46 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

So, not just pro-lynching; pro-slavery.

95 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2015 7:09:25pm

re: #92 Decatur Deb

How much does it cost to have a photo without GG?

You have to eat this:

littlegreenfootballs.com

97 Charles Johnson  Feb 10, 2015 7:10:44pm
98 Decatur Deb  Feb 10, 2015 7:10:51pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

You have to eat this:

littlegreenfootballs.com

Does it come with tabasco?

99 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2015 7:11:51pm

re: #98 Decatur Deb

Does it come with tabasco?

It could…the soy sauce was bad enough.
Tabasco might make it fly completely off the plate…

100 Gus  Feb 10, 2015 7:12:02pm
101 jaunte  Feb 10, 2015 7:13:09pm
102 Romantic Heretic  Feb 10, 2015 7:13:23pm

re: #76 nearly-headless smith25

Self-Government

People that use that term also call me a Statist

Don’t trust em

Is Self-Government anything like self pleasure?

That would explain why so many of the people who use the term are such jack offs.

103 Gus  Feb 10, 2015 7:13:43pm

Hmm, those links don’t work right. Their doing.

104 TedStriker  Feb 10, 2015 7:15:41pm

re: #91 Justanotherhuman

AndGrAndGreenwald’s hiring from the WSJ? What next, someone from the Daily Caller?

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“Digital engagement editor”? Couldn’t GG think up a more pretentious job title?

105 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 10, 2015 7:17:19pm

re: #104 TedStriker

“Digital engagement editor”? Couldn’t GG think up a more pretentious job title?

Manages the Intercept Twitter account & Greenwald sock puppets

106 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 10, 2015 7:17:42pm

“The Killers” just starting on TCM.

“Gentlemen’s Agreement” just finished up.

107 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2015 7:19:24pm

re: #104 TedStriker

“Digital engagement editor”? Couldn’t GG think up a more pretentious job title?

Sounds like a gay marriage coordinator…not that there’s anything wrong with that…

108 ObserverArt  Feb 10, 2015 7:20:22pm

re: #66 Gus

Here’s there stated purpose. Looks weird.

The purpose of the Hatton W. Sumners Foundation, as stated in its governing documents, is to encourage the study, teaching and research into the science and art of self-government, to the end that the American People may understand the fundamental principles of democracy and be guided thereby in shaping governmental policies.

That bit reads to me like it gives license to some of the document Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD put up in #54.

They say lynching is an American institution. Well, it is to a degree. Except in a narrow strip of country along the eastern seaboard, the pioneer preceeded organized government and homemade law preceeded organized law all the way to the Pacific coast. In the western part of my State it was the rugged pioneer who could ride as hard and shoot as straight as the bad man could, who drove the desperado beyond the Rio Grande and established respect for the law of the people and made life safe in that country.

It is as if they are saying good old frontier law is at the heart of today’s laws and we may need to study those old ways because we are going to maybe need them when we decide this government no longer works. Take the law into your own hands as it were.

109 Decatur Deb  Feb 10, 2015 7:21:07pm

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sounds like a gay marriage coordinator…not that there’s anything wrong with that…

“Digital engagement editor”?

Paid to twiddle one’s fingers.

110 Bubblehead II  Feb 10, 2015 7:24:05pm

Night Lizards. See you in the morning.

111 jaunte  Feb 10, 2015 7:24:51pm

re: #109 Decatur Deb

112 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 10, 2015 7:26:01pm
113 Charles Johnson  Feb 10, 2015 7:26:17pm

Bottom line: Hatton W. Sumners is a vestigial remnant of the days when lynching and vicious murder of black people wasn’t just accepted, but encouraged by America’s elites.

The fact that there’s still a “Distinguished Lecture Series” named after this evil fucker in 2015 is nauseating.

114 ObserverArt  Feb 10, 2015 7:28:09pm

re: #109 Decatur Deb

“Digital engagement editor”?

Paid to twiddle one’s fingers.

Or play solitaire on the computer all day.

115 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 10, 2015 7:30:12pm

re: #108 ObserverArt

Amazing. Fucking amazing.

Herp, derp. If you want *real* justice, just have lethal force administered by a small band of goons with no oversight.

Amazingly, everybody who dies is 100% guilty and deserving of it, according to the angry mob that killed them!

Also witch burnings had a 100% success rate.

116 Decatur Deb  Feb 10, 2015 7:31:06pm

re: #114 ObserverArt

Or play solitaire on the computer all day.

“Digital engagement”—-handjob with some degree of commitment.

117 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 10, 2015 7:31:32pm

re: #13 Backwoods_Sleuth

Goes with the Grammy discussion way downstairs, but possibly here as well:

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Jimi Hendrix will be famous forever. Till this Grammy kerfuffle I thought Kanye West was a basketball player.

118 RealityBasedSteve  Feb 10, 2015 7:35:08pm

re: #115 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss

Amazing. Fucking amazing.

Herp, derp. If you want *real* justice, just have lethal force administered by a small band of goons with no oversight.

Amazingly, everybody who dies is 100% guilty and deserving of it, according to the angry mob that killed them!

Also witch burnings had a 100% success rate.

The new GOP Campaign Motto… Go Right and Go White!

119 Dr. Matt  Feb 10, 2015 7:35:37pm

The #tcot crowd has their panties in wad about Brian Williams’ so-called #stolenvalor, but are utterly silent about:

120 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2015 7:35:44pm

re: #117 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Jimi Hendrix will be famous forever. Till this Grammy kerfuffle I thought Kanye West was a basketball player.

Kanye West lyrics for I Am A God.
This is a musical genius?
good fuckin grief…

121 Justanotherhuman  Feb 10, 2015 7:35:44pm

Later, Lizards
Will fool around with this later, but glad I got the wireless mouse, too. Will have to work on my skills with the built-in “mouse’. Hate it right now. : )

122 ObserverArt  Feb 10, 2015 7:36:13pm

re: #116 Decatur Deb

“Digital engagement”—-handjob with some degree of commitment.

One hand on the mouse and one on the monkey.

All accomplished underneath that one portrait of Glenn Greenwald that was going around. Like Glenn is creepily watching.

(Sorry for that mental image)

123 Charles Johnson  Feb 10, 2015 7:37:23pm
124 Decatur Deb  Feb 10, 2015 7:37:55pm

re: #122 ObserverArt

One hand on the mouse and one on the monkey.

All accomplished underneath that one portrait of Glenn Greenwald that was going around. Like Glenn is creepily watching.

(Sorry for that mental image)

Have a nice bowl of soup and some yogurt—you’ll feel better.

125 jaunte  Feb 10, 2015 7:38:24pm

re: #122 ObserverArt

Like Glenn is creepily watching.

littlegreenfootballs.com

126 Decatur Deb  Feb 10, 2015 7:39:26pm

re: #125 jaunte

littlegreenfootballs.com

Can I get that on black velvet?

127 ObserverArt  Feb 10, 2015 7:40:07pm

re: #125 jaunte

littlegreenfootballs.com

That’s it!

Damn creepy.

128 teleskiguy  Feb 10, 2015 7:40:15pm

The stain of slavery is one of the Original Sins of the European conquerors of 500 years ago.

129 jaunte  Feb 10, 2015 7:42:37pm

Arby’s, meet Nihilist Arby’s.

130 ObserverArt  Feb 10, 2015 7:43:35pm

Later…Imma go wash my brain and see if I can do something with it.

131 psddluva4evah  Feb 10, 2015 7:45:02pm

Just getting home and found out about Jon Stewart.

Aww man. I had my issues with some of his “both sides do it” tendencies, but The Daily Show was a welcome relief from Fox News…now who will keep Fox News and the media on their toes… Oh well, like they say “all good things come to an end”

132 teleskiguy  Feb 10, 2015 7:45:33pm

re: #129 jaunte

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Arby’s, meet Nihilist Arby’s.

I saw this earlier this evening. Arby’s is trollin’.

133 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 10, 2015 7:46:57pm

re: #113 Charles Johnson

Bottom line: Hatton W. Sumners is a vestigial remnant of the days when lynching and vicious murder of black people wasn’t just accepted, but encouraged by America’s elites.

The fact that there’s still a “Distinguished Lecture Series” named after this evil fucker in 2015 is nauseating.

What’s even more fucked up is that, if he were alive, he could probably still get easily elected in Texas today.

134 teleskiguy  Feb 10, 2015 7:47:11pm

Who knew the Cayman Islands had a ski team racing in FIS races? I didn’t until tonight, when a member of the team started following me on Twitter.

Who’d a thunk it?!?

135 Decatur Deb  Feb 10, 2015 7:48:15pm

re: #134 teleskiguy

Who knew the Cayman Islands had a ski team racing in FIS races? I didn’t until tonight, when a member of the team started following me on Twitter.

[Embedded content]

Who’d a thunk it?!?

Cool Runnings.

136 jaunte  Feb 10, 2015 7:48:20pm
137 teleskiguy  Feb 10, 2015 7:49:42pm

re: #136 jaunte

138 jaunte  Feb 10, 2015 7:50:36pm

re: #137 teleskiguy

For some reason I don’t picture that sort of geological ignorance coming out of people in California.

139 bratwurst  Feb 10, 2015 7:50:59pm

Ok, I knew the world was closing in on “peak talking head”, but I had no idea the situation was already so dire that CNN would resort to doubling up!

140 Gus  Feb 10, 2015 7:53:05pm

re: #136 jaunte

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Ouch. My head.

141 teleskiguy  Feb 10, 2015 7:53:42pm

re: #138 jaunte

For some reason I don’t picture that sort of geological ignorance coming out of people in California.

Never discount the Central Valley and the rural areas near Nevada. After all, our pal UpChuck makes his (stepmother’s) home in Fresno, which is where Free Republic is based.

142 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2015 7:53:43pm

re: #136 jaunte

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arrrrggggg

143 jaunte  Feb 10, 2015 7:54:11pm
144 jaunte  Feb 10, 2015 7:54:45pm

amazing.

145 jaunte  Feb 10, 2015 7:55:31pm

This must be why Chuck C has fans.

146 Charles Johnson  Feb 10, 2015 7:55:52pm

I guess John Cole won’t be my friend any more. I’m all tore up.

147 De Kolta Chair  Feb 10, 2015 7:55:53pm

re: #136 jaunte

Mike Rarey @mymediumrare

@Bwana86 The world-wide flood is supported by ocean fossils being found on the highest mountains.

And the hollow earth theory is supported by the song “Deep In The Heart of Texas.”

148 Charles Johnson  Feb 10, 2015 7:56:48pm

People who call themselves “liberals” but give Glenn Greenwald a pass for shit like this are assholes. That is all.

149 teleskiguy  Feb 10, 2015 7:57:07pm

Why are my some countryfolk so devoid of critical thinking skills?

150 Kragar  Feb 10, 2015 7:57:29pm

re: #119 Dr. Matt

The #tcot crowd has their panties in wad about Brian Williams’ so-called #stolenvalor, but are utterly silent about:

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This is some horseshit right here.

151 teleskiguy  Feb 10, 2015 7:59:34pm

re: #148 Charles Johnson

People who call themselves “liberals” but give Glenn Greenwald a pass for shit like this are assholes. That is all.

I remember when the Snowden files broke. As usual, I checked LGF and from day one we’ve been highly critical of Greenwald and his Snowden writings. And rightly so. It was the summer of 2013 when I became familiar with the reality that is the circle of derp.

152 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 10, 2015 7:59:46pm

re: #138 jaunte

For some reason I don’t picture that sort of geological ignorance coming out of people in California.

I’m glad the geologist CA Lizards have converted you to thinking this way, but I can assure you, we have more than our fair share of idiots here.

153 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2015 8:00:42pm

re: #144 jaunte

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amazing.

wow. just. wow…

154 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2015 8:01:51pm

OK, I think this is a good time for this:

155 De Kolta Chair  Feb 10, 2015 8:02:31pm

re: #149 teleskiguy

Why are my some countryfolk so devoid of critical thinking skills?

156 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 10, 2015 8:02:37pm

re: #115 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss

Amazing. Fucking amazing.

Herp, derp. If you want *real* justice, just have lethal force administered by a small band of goons with no oversight.

Amazingly, everybody who dies is 100% guilty and deserving of it, according to the angry mob that killed them!

Also witch burnings had a 100% success rate.

Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman’s two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said “the judgements of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.

—Abraham Lincoln

157 Decatur Deb  Feb 10, 2015 8:03:20pm

re: #154 Backwoods_Sleuth

OK, I think this is a good time for this:

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Steve McHound.

158 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 10, 2015 8:05:35pm

Fossils atop mountains because of the Biblical flood? Ridiculous!

Those are just creatures that were turned to stone by the Gorgons.

Medusa really fucking hated trilobites.

159 De Kolta Chair  Feb 10, 2015 8:06:32pm

re: #144 jaunte

160 Gus  Feb 10, 2015 8:07:31pm
161 teleskiguy  Feb 10, 2015 8:08:58pm

Speaking of Jon Stewart…

162 Gus  Feb 10, 2015 8:09:32pm
163 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2015 8:11:45pm

re: #162 Gus

doubling down on the stupid they are.

164 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2015 8:12:40pm

bwahahaaa

165 Charles Johnson  Feb 10, 2015 8:12:47pm
166 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2015 8:14:04pm

and then just hours after saying he was going to hold off on the rest of his Brian Williams stories until the 6 month suspension is finished:

167 Gus  Feb 10, 2015 8:16:54pm

I’m like a one man Gawker. //

168 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2015 8:17:47pm

oh, my!

the entire thing is here. Good grief.

169 jaunte  Feb 10, 2015 8:17:51pm

re: #166 Backwoods_Sleuth

another #BrianWilliams lies story

Quickly moving to the deep discount remainder table.

170 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 10, 2015 8:18:03pm

I drugged the cat tonight.

(She reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally likes her catnip. I should do a video sometime.)

171 jaunte  Feb 10, 2015 8:19:04pm

It’s so sad when a grifter winds up with some dirt left unsold.

172 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2015 8:19:46pm

re: #170 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I drugged the cat tonight.

(She reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally likes her catnip. I should do a video sometime.)

LOL! MrBWS asked me why there were so many milk jug rings hidden all over in the bed.
I said the kittehs were just sharing the fun since he was home longer than usual!

173 Eventual Carrion  Feb 10, 2015 8:20:01pm

re: #158 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss

Fossils atop mountains because of the Biblical flood? Ridiculous!

Those are just creatures that were turned to stone by the Gorgons.

Medusa really fucking hated trilobites.

The cockroaches of the day. Medusa was the Orkin women.

174 Gus  Feb 10, 2015 8:21:34pm
175 teleskiguy  Feb 10, 2015 8:22:18pm

re: #168 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_O

176 retired cynic  Feb 10, 2015 8:22:19pm

re: #174 Gus

You are a full one-man band tonight!

177 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 10, 2015 8:23:21pm

re: #173 Eventual Carrion

The cockroaches of the day. Medusa was the Orkin women.

I prefer to imagine them as retro lobster.

178 Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 10, 2015 8:24:14pm

re: #174 Gus

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“Hey, I’m just asking questions here!”

179 jaunte  Feb 10, 2015 8:24:58pm

re: #174 Gus

“Best known as the “Father of Health Savings Accounts,” Goodman was the founding president of the 31-year-old NCPA and a nationally quoted champion of privatization, tax reform, and a consumer-driven health system.”
frontburner.dmagazine.com

181 jaunte  Feb 10, 2015 8:25:44pm

“Goodman had led the NCPA ever since its founding in 1983 at the University of Dallas, helping to attract more than $100 million in funding over the years from the likes of Exxon Mobil Corp., the Scaife Family Foundation, and foundations run by Charles and David Koch.”
frontburner.dmagazine.com

182 Charles Johnson  Feb 10, 2015 8:27:30pm

NCPA is at the very center of the far right universe.

183 Decatur Deb  Feb 10, 2015 8:27:43pm

Just confirmed that the “Log Out” button on the thread-bottom comment block has not been functioning for some time. (It goes gray, does not log out.)
Firefox under Ubuntu 10.4

‘Nite all.

184 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2015 8:28:39pm

I knew it was happening. Chuck is channeling SarahPalinSpeak:

185 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 10, 2015 8:29:33pm

re: #184 Backwoods_Sleuth

No he’s trying to cash in on trending hashtags.

186 teleskiguy  Feb 10, 2015 8:29:45pm

Gus, Charles, I took liberty with the headline. I know Charles is a headline specialist, but I like mine too.

187 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 10, 2015 8:30:01pm

re: #182 Charles Johnson

NCPA is at the very center of the far right universe.

A long time ago, in a galaxy full, full of derp…

188 jaunte  Feb 10, 2015 8:31:11pm
189 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2015 8:31:31pm

re: #185 Eclectic Cyborg

No he’s trying to cash in on trending hashtags.

“shackled” is one of Sarah Palin’s favorite catch phrases.

190 De Kolta Chair  Feb 10, 2015 8:32:39pm

I read that NY TImes article about lynchings this morning and have been thinking about it all day. It’s a must read.

191 Charles Johnson  Feb 10, 2015 8:32:55pm

re: #183 Decatur Deb

Just confirmed that the “Log Out” button on the thread-bottom comment block has not been functioning for some time. (It goes gray, does not log out.)
Firefox under Ubuntu 10.4

‘Nite all.

Will investigate.

192 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 10, 2015 8:33:14pm

re: #187 Eclectic Cyborg

A long time ago, in a galaxy full, full of derp…

193 jaunte  Feb 10, 2015 8:33:52pm

re: #192 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It’s a feature.

194 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 10, 2015 8:33:53pm

re: #191 Charles Johnson

Will investigate.

Observing the same thing in Chrome on Windows Vista.

195 teleskiguy  Feb 10, 2015 8:33:59pm

re: #188 jaunte

Good work if you can find it.

*spit*

196 jaunte  Feb 10, 2015 8:35:02pm

re: #195 teleskiguy

You would have thought he could have remembered to keep his hands off the female coworker.

197 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 10, 2015 8:35:16pm

re: #188 jaunte

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frontburner.dmagazine.com

John Goodman is president of the NCPA? Say it ain’t so!

198 Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 10, 2015 8:35:18pm

OK, I have just fell over in derp overload:

Bill would require counting change in school

(warning: video autoplay at link)

LITTLE ROCK, Ark.(KTHV) - Counting out change to a customer seems to be a lost art these days, but if one lawmaker has his way, every student in Arkansas would be required to preserve this dying skill.

Most cash registers in use today automatically calculate how much change is due. Much different than a decade ago.

“Do we not work with these youngsters enough to learn how to make correct change?”

Representative Kim Hendren says the idea for a bill that would require this simple math skill to be taught in school came after a recent conversation.

“An operator of a sale barn in northwest Arkansas told me, my wife and I went to Sonic the other night bought two drinks for just over three dollars and when the attendant came out I handed a 20 dollar bill to the attendant. The attendant looked so puzzled, hesitated back and then gave him back $21 in change.”

good freakin grief…

199 ipsos  Feb 10, 2015 8:37:09pm

re: #184 Backwoods_Sleuth

As opposed to UpChuck, who appears to be shackled to untruth?

200 Charles Johnson  Feb 10, 2015 8:37:23pm

re: #183 Decatur Deb

Just confirmed that the “Log Out” button on the thread-bottom comment block has not been functioning for some time. (It goes gray, does not log out.)
Firefox under Ubuntu 10.4

‘Nite all.

Now fixed.

201 Gus  Feb 10, 2015 8:38:38pm
202 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 10, 2015 8:38:43pm

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

OK, I have just fell over in derp overload:

Bill would require counting change in school

(warning: video autoplay at link)

good freakin grief…

The rest of class time devoted to teaching students to say: “Would you like fries with that?”

203 retired cynic  Feb 10, 2015 8:39:38pm

re: #201 Gus

Memphis area. Edit to add, the lynchings.

204 Charles Johnson  Feb 10, 2015 8:40:37pm
205 teleskiguy  Feb 10, 2015 8:40:42pm

Quick 2015 FIS Alpine World Ski Championships update (which are being held in America! YAY!):

Austria is dominating, Tina Maze (pronounced mah-zay) from Slovenia is aMAZEing, Lindsey Vonn almost cried in an interview after she DNF’d the Combined (even though she’s finished only two Combined starts out of nine starts in this particular discipline) though I can understand her heartache. It’s her hometown mountain, everybody of U.S. citizenship in attendance at the races are rooting for her big time. Oy!

Only two races left for the men and women, the Giant Slalom and Slalom. And on Monday, I’ll be able to find a place to park again.

206 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 10, 2015 8:43:58pm

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

OK, I have just fell over in derp overload:

Bill would require counting change in school

(warning: video autoplay at link)

good freakin grief…

Next up: A bill requiring students to learn how to use a dial telephone, and a film camera.

207 Romantic Heretic  Feb 10, 2015 8:44:46pm

re: #128 teleskiguy

The stain of slavery is one of the Original Sins of the European conquerors of 500 years ago.

Watched The Mission last night with my wife. That was about slavery, and how the Catholic Church got too caught up in politics to do anything about it.

That movie has the most beautiful soundtrack.

208 Romantic Heretic  Feb 10, 2015 8:45:49pm

re: #134 teleskiguy

Who knew the Cayman Islands had a ski team racing in FIS races? I didn’t until tonight, when a member of the team started following me on Twitter.

Embedded Image

Who’d a thunk it?!?

Is that anything like the Jamaican bobsled team?

209 Higgs Boson's Mate  Feb 10, 2015 8:48:07pm

re: #184 Backwoods_Sleuth

I knew it was happening. Chuck is channeling SarahPalinSpeak:

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I have a serious question because I’m sometimes busy of an evening and I only skim the upchuck-related comments. Does that guy appear to drunkenly Tweet every night?

210 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 10, 2015 8:50:37pm

Dinesh D’Souza has of course jumped in on how awful that liberal Brian Williams is.

Let’s pause and recall how much money fraud, adulterer, and serial liar Dinesh D’Souza continues to get from right wing “think tanks.”

The hypocrisy is built into the basic design of wingnuttery.

211 Charles Johnson  Feb 10, 2015 8:51:43pm
212 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 10, 2015 8:52:17pm

re: #206 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

Next up: A bill requiring students to learn how to use a dial telephone, and a film camera.

don’t forget Audio Cassettes and Floppy Disks 101.

213 Gus  Feb 10, 2015 8:53:18pm

re: #211 Charles Johnson

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I must have them all blocked.

214 RealityBasedSteve  Feb 10, 2015 8:54:47pm

I want a job working at a right wing think tank. Be the easiest gig in the world… On any topic, simply determine what a non self centered individual with a reasonable amount of compassion in a civilized industrial nation would think would be the morally correct position on any issue, then adopt one 180 degrees from that.

Of course, I’d have to grow a huge beard, since there is no way I could face myself in the mirror with a sharp object in my hand…

RBS

215 teleskiguy  Feb 10, 2015 8:55:25pm

re: #208 Romantic Heretic

Is that anything like the Jamaican bobsled team?

I wish the Cayman Islands Ski Team had as cool a story as the Jamaican Bobsled Team. I’ve lived in ski towns long enough to know better. It’s greenbacks, skrilla, scratch, dem dollas, seemingly the most important thing ever.

$

216 Romantic Heretic  Feb 10, 2015 8:55:29pm

re: #173 Eventual Carrion

The cockroaches of the day. Medusa was the Orkin women.

Trilobites didn’t hold a candle to the Eurypterids.

217 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 10, 2015 8:56:55pm

re: #216 Romantic Heretic

Let’s not lose sight of what’s important: which would taste better with melted butter?

218 Gus  Feb 10, 2015 8:59:07pm
219 Charles Johnson  Feb 10, 2015 8:59:23pm

re: #213 Gus

I do too, but just like the right wing stalkers, they like to jump into my conversations with followers so I see their usernames, to let me know they’re still stalking.

When you get down to it, the far left and far right are amazingly similar.

220 Romantic Heretic  Feb 10, 2015 9:00:03pm

re: #217 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss

Can’t say. The Eurypterids would be rather more difficult to catch though. Unless you used depth charges it would be just as likely you’d be its dinner.

221 retired cynic  Feb 10, 2015 9:00:31pm

re: #218 Gus

Circle of derp closure?

222 jaunte  Feb 10, 2015 9:00:37pm

I see the stalkers are all over the glenn greenwald hashtag tonight.

223 dholmes32  Feb 10, 2015 9:04:47pm

re: #139 bratwurst

Ok, I knew the world was closing in on “peak talking head”, but I had no idea the situation was already so dire that CNN would resort to doubling up!

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During the 2008 financial crisis, CNBC would put so many talking heads at once that my mom called it “the dreaded octobox.”

224 Charles Johnson  Feb 10, 2015 9:07:04pm

re: #222 jaunte

Not looking, don’t care.

225 Charles Johnson  Feb 10, 2015 9:07:23pm

But not surprised.

226 Gus  Feb 10, 2015 9:10:36pm

re: #225 Charles Johnson

But not surprised.

We’re famous! ;)

227 jaunte  Feb 10, 2015 9:11:16pm

re: #225 Charles Johnson

I was scanning, thinking “Oh, there’s that lame ‘the kkk were democrats’ point again, and look who made it.”

228 Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 10, 2015 9:19:22pm

re: #214 RealityBasedSteve

Of course, I’d have to grow a huge beard, since there is no way I could face myself in the mirror with a sharp object in my hand…

RBS

Hey if you did that, you could get your own show on A&E!

229 goddamnedfrank  Feb 10, 2015 9:31:24pm

Meanwhile, in Norway.

230 retired cynic  Feb 10, 2015 9:33:00pm

re: #229 goddamnedfrank

WTF?

231 jaunte  Feb 10, 2015 9:34:58pm

re: #229 goddamnedfrank

“All I knew about Frognerparken before visiting was that there’s a statue of a angry little kid (sinnataggen) and a monolith. It’s an amazing place, particularly if you’re an artist studying anatomy. The sculptures were created by Gustav Vigeland. Some of them are pretty bizarre and cause me to wonder what he had against babies, but they’re interesting to look at.”
vikingsandvadso.wordpress.com

232 Charles Johnson  Feb 10, 2015 9:36:07pm
233 jaunte  Feb 10, 2015 9:37:24pm
I have 200k in cash
234 De Kolta Chair  Feb 10, 2015 9:41:00pm

re: #232 Charles Johnson

Charles C. Johnson

you’re right. I have 200k in cash

MORON!!!!
235 goddamnedfrank  Feb 10, 2015 9:45:17pm

Those weren’t jokes. Chuck was lying, pretending to be a big man with lots of money and support.

It’s looking more and more like Joel Gilbert and Stuart Browning (if indeed Browning ever was a financial backer) have cut Chuck off. The fight with Loesch was likely the last straw. The right wing in this country wants a trained Anger Bear that’s smart enough not to bite the hand that feeds it. In CCJ they instead found an unstable narcissistic sociopath that nobody with any sense now trusts or feels at all safe being around.

236 goddamnedfrank  Feb 10, 2015 9:50:41pm

re: #231 jaunte

“Some of them are pretty bizarre and cause me to wonder what he had against babies, but they’re interesting to look at.”

Vigeland understood the truth about babies, they’re annoying as all fuck.

237 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 10, 2015 9:52:19pm

re: #236 goddamnedfrank

Vigeland understood the truth about babies, they’re annoying as all fuck.

The hormonal changes they induce in parents are a defense mechanism, I am convinced.

Otherwise our species would never have survived.

238 Higgs Boson's Mate  Feb 10, 2015 9:54:24pm

re: #235 goddamnedfrank

… an unstable narcissistic sociopath…

Ya’ know, the RW has been able to overlook those things and worse in any number of their icons. What makes upchuck damaged goods to them is that all of his shabby, easily debunked work is drenched in the sweat of desperation.

239 goddamnedfrank  Feb 10, 2015 9:59:26pm

re: #237 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The hormonal changes they induce in parents are a defense mechanism, I am convinced.

Otherwise our species would never have survived.

That and people try really goddamned hard to forget that when it’s their baby or grandchild, and they’re around other parents. They suppress their feelings & desperately try not to say the unspeakable truth, that babies are horrible, greedy little shit monsters made of mostly refined id.

Study: Babies Like Watching Puppets Who Are Different From Them Get Hurt

How awful is that? People want to think babies are all sweet ‘n shit, but that actually makes no sense. They’re totally uncivilized raw humanity, that haven’t developed any of the learning, grace or higher order thinking we all tend to take for granted.

I mean yeah, they’re kind of necessary, I get that. But I think Vigeland pretty much captured how we all, deep down, tend to feel about them … at least sometimes.

240 CuriousLurker  Feb 10, 2015 10:00:24pm

OT: Sorry to butt in, but have any of you heard about the execution style murders that happened in NC at around 5:00pm? I just saw this tweet about it a few minutes ago, but can’t find any specific info on the victims or the shooter:

241 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 10, 2015 10:00:27pm

re: #239 goddamnedfrank

This is why I don’t procreate.

242 jaunte  Feb 10, 2015 10:03:45pm

re: #240 CuriousLurker

This is all I can find on it:

abc11.com

243 dholmes32  Feb 10, 2015 10:03:51pm

Yowza. More on the Chapel Hill shootings:

CHAPEL HILL, N.C. (WTVD) — Police in Chapel Hill are investigating a triple fatal shooting.

At 5:11 p.m. Tuesday, police responded to a call of gunshots fired in the 200 block of Summerwalk Circle in the Finley Forest Condominiums.

When they arrived on scene, they found three people with gunshot wounds. All of the victims were pronounced dead at the scene.

(more at the link)
abc11.com

244 jaunte  Feb 10, 2015 10:06:14pm
A suspect in the shootings turned himself in to the Chatham County Sheriff’s Office in Pittsboro, sources said. The suspect’s identity was not released wral.com
245 goddamnedfrank  Feb 10, 2015 10:06:40pm

re: #238 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Ya’ know, the RW has been able to overlook those things and worse in any number of their icons. What makes upchuck damaged goods to them is that all of his shabby, easily debunked work is drenched in the sweat of desperation.

I’d buy that if they called him out on it, but they pretty much never do.

It’s the fact that he’s attacked them, that he buys his own hype, drinks his own Kool-Aid, insert stock phrase here. He’s got this weird combination of absolute confirmation bias that allows him to publish laughable rubbish like the pixel size story that any halfway intelligent person can see straight through, yet still earnestly and steadfastly believes he’s “all about the truth.”

Mix that up with enough narcissism to never admit when he is wrong and the grandiosity to think everyone should follow him no matter what he does, and the Right finally realized that he was certifiably dangerous to their own cause.

246 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 10, 2015 10:07:00pm

It’s Twitter, take it with a grain of salt, but.

247 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 10, 2015 10:07:40pm

I may have found one of the victim’s Twitter account; the name matches and the tweets seem fitting, but until there’s more info I’m not going to post it.

248 CuriousLurker  Feb 10, 2015 10:08:53pm

re: #246 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Yeah, I’m trying to find some confirmation on identities other than from Twitter.

249 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 10, 2015 10:09:50pm

re: #248 CuriousLurker

Yeah, I’m trying to find some confirmation on identities other than from Twitter.

Nothing is out officially yet. Honestly the description of how the police handled the (potential) family of one of the victims makes me sad.

250 CuriousLurker  Feb 10, 2015 10:12:00pm

re: #249 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Yeah, me too. Pretty heavy-handed.

251 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 10, 2015 10:12:56pm

The thing that really gets me is that if there were even a hint that the victims were white and the killer Muslim, this probably would have been all over the place by this point.

That and I see the pictures and what a waste of life. Of beautiful lives that were trying to make a difference in the world.

252 Kragar  Feb 10, 2015 10:13:49pm

re: #239 goddamnedfrank

Study Reveals Babies Are Stupid

LOS ANGELES—A surprising new study released Monday by UCLA’s Institute For Child Development revealed that human babies, long thought by psychologists to be highly inquisitive and adaptable, are actually extraordinarily stupid.

The study, an 18-month battery of intelligence tests administered to over 3,500 babies, concluded categorically that babies are “so stupid, it’s not even funny.”

According to Institute president Molly Bentley, in an effort to determine infant survival instincts when attacked, the babies were prodded in an aggressive manner with a broken broom handle. Over 90 percent of them, when poked, failed to make even rudimentary attempts to defend themselves. The remaining 10 percent responded by vacating their bowels.

“It is unlikely that the presence of the babies’ fecal matter, however foul-smelling, would have a measurable defensive effect against an attacker in a real-world situation,” Bentley said.

253 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 10, 2015 10:16:42pm

re: #247 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Scrolling through tweets makes it pretty clear that if the information filtering through Twitter is right (and given that these folks seem to have been active in the community, I suspect it is), I did find the right Twitter account.

Which makes it even more heartbreaking. This was a guy who was out to defeat hatred, not hurt people.

254 CuriousLurker  Feb 10, 2015 10:17:56pm

re: #251 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The thing that really gets me is that if there were even a hint that the victims were white and the killer Muslim, this probably would have been all over the place by this point.

That and I see the pictures and what a waste of life. Of beautiful lives that were trying to make a difference in the world.

My thoughts exactly, but I want to wait for confirmation before going off. It’s going to get unbelievably ugly if the victims were indeed young, upwardly mobile Muslims. The right-wing bigot brigades will do everything in their power to try to blame the victims by sliming them.

255 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 10, 2015 10:37:25pm

re: #235 goddamnedfrank

Those weren’t jokes. Chuck was lying, pretending to be a big man with lots of money and support.

It’s looking more and more like Joel Gilbert and Stuart Browning (if indeed Browning ever was a financial backer) have cut Chuck off. The fight with Loesch was likely the last straw. The right wing in this country wants a trained Anger Bear that’s smart enough not to bite the hand that feeds it. In CCJ they instead found an unstable narcissistic sociopath that nobody with any sense now trusts or feels at all safe being around.

Funny thing is, he alludes to this in his “Late Night with CCJ” video. But he’s as unapologetic and vainglorious as before.
gotnwes.wheatdogg.com

He does this thing where he boasts and jabs his thumbs at his chest. I need to get a screencap of that one.

256 teleskiguy  Feb 10, 2015 10:42:43pm

Muslims that I would consider good people are being slain after their graduation ceremonies in the United States.

Muslim hatred is on the rise in the United States. For no good reason.

Pam”cakes” Geller and Robert Spencer and Geert Wilders and all the rest of you hateful scumbags, fuck right off.

257 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 10, 2015 10:46:59pm

re: #254 CuriousLurker

My thoughts exactly, but I want to wait for confirmation before going off. It’s going to get unbelievably ugly if the victims were indeed young, upwardly mobile Muslims. The right-wing bigot brigades will do everything in their power to try to blame the victims by sliming them.

It’s looking pretty clear that you should be set to buckle in.

I’m going to go mourn the loss of three lives cut short far too soon, who contributed beauty to this world instead of hate. And try not to cry too much at seeing their wedding photos. Not even two months to share together. (She changed her profile photo yesterday to her dance with her dad, my heart is breaking.)

258 klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 10, 2015 10:55:22pm

re: #257 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Pinged you on the Twitter but I am seeing confirmation from the families on Facebook.

259 darthstar  Feb 10, 2015 11:27:05pm

Hey everyone…how’s it hanging? //greenwald_humor

Okay…bad choice of words. Anyway, drive by good-night from me.

260 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 11, 2015 12:12:04am

Here’s the boastful UpChuck, proud that he’s pissed off the right wing who used to adore him.

It was yours truly who exposed Holly Fisher’s affair

Working on a GIF, too.

261 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 2:41:33am

About those horrible shooting in Chapel Hill: The local news is reporting that Craig Hooks, arrested in the shooting, made anti-Muslim comments on his FB page, even though outlets are reporting it as “no motive” at this point.

Heh.

262 Thanos  Feb 11, 2015 3:15:51am

Side note: if you hit NCPA’s youtube channel, West is all over it:

youtube.com

263 Bubblehead II  Feb 11, 2015 3:22:00am

Morning Lizards. It’s Saturday (in my world) so your stuck with me the next couple of days :-)

264 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 3:24:03am

re: #261 Justanotherhuman

I’m reading that he was a militant atheist, if so, we may be witnessing an act of atheist terrorism.

265 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 3:26:07am

re: #264 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

I’m reading that he was a militant atheist, if so, we may be witnessing an act of atheist terrorism.

Heh. Saw that he was a follower of “anti-Muslim Richard Dawkins”.

266 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 3:32:53am
267 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 3:36:45am

re: #266 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

facebook.com

He seems to be not merely an atheist, but a full-fledged liberal. Pro-choice, pro-LGBT, likes Tyson etc.

268 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 3:38:23am

re: #261 Justanotherhuman

About those horrible shooting in Chapel Hill: The local news is reporting that Craig Hooks, arrested in the shooting, made anti-Muslim comments on his FB page, even though outlets are reporting it as “no motive” at this point.

Heh.

Having looked at the FB now, it is clear why they’re saying that they’re not sure about motive. His is a typical atheistic page against all religions, without a special anti-Muslim slant.

269 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 3:38:59am

Innocent young people looking forrward to their lives…

270 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 3:44:01am

re: #268 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Having looked at the FB now, it is clear why they’re saying that they’re not sure about motive. His is a typical atheistic page against all religions, without a special anti-Muslim slant.

At this point, i don’t give a shit what his motive was—he killed 3 innocent young people looking forward to doing good in the world, in their futures.

There was hate in his heart for some reason, which will eventually come out.

271 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 3:44:16am

He is pro-gun though:

Craig Hicks
15 January 2011 *
I guess after the horrible tragedy early this week in Arizona, all Glock pistols will officially be labeled “assault weapons.” While I never cared for Glocks personally, it stinks that anyone would blame a firearm rather than the operator of such firearm for such a terrible act. I think I’ll start blaming McDonalds for my weight problem, Christianity for the Ku Klux Klan, and Islam for terrorism.

272 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 3:46:18am
Craig Hicks
19 August 2010 *
Seems an overwhelming majority of Christians in this country feel that the Muslims are using the Ground Zero Mosque plans to”mark their conquest” Bunch of hypocrites, everywhere I’ve been in this country there are churches marking the Christian conquest of this country from the Native Americans. Funny thing is the Christians did that while defying our Constitution, and got away with it!!
273 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 3:46:38am

re: #271 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

He is pro-gun though:

The guy obviously is not a clear thinker.

I’m an atheist, and while I can’t abide religion per se, I am still respectful of the human beings who practice it.

274 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 3:53:33am

re: #272 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Those are his musings from 4 yrs ago—people change, you know.

275 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 3:56:13am

re: #274 Justanotherhuman

Those are his musings from 4 yrs ago—people change, you know.

Oh, of course. His FB page doesn’t seem to show much change though.

276 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 3:56:41am

Does anyone else think Hicks might be some type of “libertarian”? They tend to be divorced from the humane side of ideology, imho.

277 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 3:57:11am

BBL.

278 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 3:57:17am

TBH, I expected a Gelleresque type. That it was a fellow liberal leaves me puzzled.

279 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 3:59:50am

re: #276 Justanotherhuman

Does anyone else think Hicks might be some type of “libertarian”? They tend to be divorced from the humane side of ideology, imho.

If so, he surely wouldn’t be a typical one. It would show on his FB. You know how these types always post some Mises-Friedman-Rand quotes, rants against Obama, “statists” and so on. He reposted Dailykos. Sure doesn’t look like a libertarian we know.

280 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 4:13:07am

Groups he reposted:

DailyKos
Army Vets for Obama
Blue Nation Review

281 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 4:13:23am
Craig Hicks
3 November 2012 * Chapel Hill *
My better half just gave me some very disturbing news. FirstMerit bank has told some of it’s employees, one of which is my wifes good friend, that if Obama wins they will drop their health insurance. They will opt out and pay the penalty instead of insuring their employees. I’m really getting tired of this crap, and either way will never deal with this company again, not that I did before.
282 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 11, 2015 4:19:59am

So, I spent this afternoon learning how to make an animated GIF with Photoshop CS6. And dealing with restoring a crashed cell phone to functional state again.

Here’s the GIF I promised earlier.
Yours truly

In the preview here, the anmation rate is too fast, but it looks OK when I previewed it on my computer. I’m still learning this Photoshop stuff.

IrfanView shows it normal speed, too. Any suggestions?

283 Bubblehead II  Feb 11, 2015 4:24:43am

re: #282 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality

So, I spent this afternoon learning how to make an animated GIF with Photoshop CS6. And dealing with restoring a crashed cell phone to functional state again.

Here’s the GIF I promised earlier.
Yours truly

In the preview here, the anmation rate is too fast, but it looks OK when I previewed it on my computer. I’m still learning this Photoshop stuff.

IrfanView shows it normal speed, too. Any suggestions?

Looks OK to me, but then I don’t know anything about photoshop. BTW, thanks for the chuck mug shot GIF yesterday morning. I have unabashedly stolen it.

284 William Barnett-Lewis  Feb 11, 2015 4:26:31am

re: #280 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Groups he reposted:

DailyKos
Army Vets for Obama
Blue Nation Review

Any indication he was a vet himself? Experience in the middle east might leave him with a bias that doesn’t fit the rest of his beliefs. My FiL Was as liberal as can be but as a WWII US Navy vet, he had a strong anti Japanese bias to the end of his life.

285 wheat-dogghazi-bola-trality  Feb 11, 2015 4:27:49am

re: #283 Bubblehead II

Looks OK to me, but then I don’t know anything about photoshop. BTW, thanks for the chuck mug shot GIF yesterday morning. I have unabashedly stolen it.

My pleasure. Maybe it’s just my browser being weird

286 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 4:37:19am

re: #284 William Barnett-Lewis

No idea. I suppose we’ll have to wait a bit.

287 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 4:42:30am

re: #280 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

His likes: facebook.com

288 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 4:47:28am

Not much on #tcot about the Chapel Hill hate killings, but you just know they will be all HURR HURR A LIBRUL DEMOCRAT!!!!

289 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 4:48:13am

re: #287 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

He liked this: nbcnewyork.com

290 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 4:48:37am

Looks like the shooter was an anti-all-religions bigot with a special hate for Muslims, in the Dawkins/Harris camp. Also a gun-fucker.

291 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 4:49:35am

re: #290 The Vicious Babushka

Looks like the shooter was an anti-all-religions bigot with a special hate for Muslims, in the Dawkins/Harris camp. Also a gun-fucker.

Not what I gather from his FB page.

292 Eventual Carrion  Feb 11, 2015 4:51:12am

re: #261 Justanotherhuman

About those horrible shooting in Chapel Hill: The local news is reporting that Craig Hooks, arrested in the shooting, made anti-Muslim comments on his FB page, even though outlets are reporting it as “no motive” at this point.

Heh.

To borrow a rightwing phrase, “Why won’t they call it terrorism?”.

293 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 4:53:00am
294 Romantic Heretic  Feb 11, 2015 4:55:50am

re: #268 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Having looked at the FB now, it is clear why they’re saying that they’re not sure about motive. His is a typical atheistic page against all religions, without a special anti-Muslim slant.

Shrugs. This was a person looking for an excuse to act out the hate and anger in his soul. He chose ‘atheism’.

There are a million other excuses out there. Until people stop looking for excuses and start looking at themselves acts like this will continue to happen.

295 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 4:57:01am
296 Romantic Heretic  Feb 11, 2015 4:59:48am

re: #295 The Vicious Babushka

Since I seem to be on a B5 kick this morning I’ll use that to express my thoughts.

Emperor Turhan: How does it end?

Kosh: (weird electronic noise) In fire.

297 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 5:00:37am
298 Doofus  Feb 11, 2015 5:03:42am

Thought you were having a bad day?! Dan Grainger blew a tire on a local interstate bridge and ran into the concrete barrier. He got out to inspect the damage, and realized he would soon get hit in 55mph+ rush hour traffic, and leaped over the barrier. Problem was he was on a bridge and fell 50’. Luckily he landed in a snow bank, and scaled back up the embankment. He then attempted to cross the Interstate, only to get hit by a tractor trailer. He is in stable condition with broken bones and possible internal injuries.

299 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 5:03:45am

The Condell-types are usually not shy about posting anti-Muslim stuff. This guy posted a lot of stuff generalizing about religion and American Christians, but not a single item about Muslims in general.

300 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 5:05:02am

Rabid bigotry + gun-fuckery = terrorism.

301 Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2015 5:05:09am

re: #290 The Vicious Babushka

Looks like the shooter was an anti-all-religions bigot with a special hate for Muslims, in the Dawkins/Harris camp. Also a gun-fucker.

re: #291 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Not what I gather from his FB page.

I’ll wait for his manifesto, or the made-for-TV movie.

302 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 5:05:52am

re: #291 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Not what I gather from his FB page.

I have not seen his FB, I suppose the account is removed now.

303 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 5:07:58am

re: #302 The Vicious Babushka

I have not seen his FB, I suppose the account is removed now.

I posted a lot of stuff above. He is a left-wing liberal, probable Obama voter, anti-teabagger, pro-choice and pro-LGBT/SSM.

304 Doofus  Feb 11, 2015 5:08:36am

The probe into NY Speaker Sheldon Silver continues. Using upstate FBI detectives, Manhattan US Attorney Preet Bharara is investigating possible voter fraud.

The impetus for the probe could have been information provided to Bharara by opponents of Diaz, one of whom I spoke with last week. Included in the material was evidence of alleged voter fraud — particularly alleged fake signatures on voter petitions.
I’m hearing that one document turned over to Bharara shows that some candidates in certain Bronx districts got more votes than the number of voters who went into the booths.

305 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 5:09:41am

re: #287 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

His likes: facebook.com

He likes curvy women.

306 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 5:10:11am

re: #303 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

I posted a lot of stuff above. He is a left-wing liberal, probable Obama voter, anti-teabagger, pro-choice and pro-LGBT/SSM.

Except for the guns.

307 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 5:11:40am

He seems to have opposed the hysteria around the “Ground Zero Mosque”. This is not your typical Condell-type. If he is, he sure hid it well.

308 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 5:12:07am

re: #306 The Vicious Babushka

Except for the guns.

We have our liberal pro-gun Lizards too.

309 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 5:12:35am

re: #308 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

We have our liberal pro-gun Lizards too.

But they don’t go out and shoot people.

310 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 5:13:31am

re: #309 The Vicious Babushka

But they don’t go out and shoot people.

The point being, not everyone who is pro-gun is a gun nut or is going to shoot people.

311 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 5:14:49am

I started with the assumption of atheist terrorism. I have no idea what to think anymore. I’ll wait for more info.

312 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 5:17:34am

re: #311 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

I started with the assumption of atheist terrorism. I have no idea what to think anymore. I’ll wait for more info.

I don’t think that “atheist terrorism” is an actual thing. What we have here is a bigot, who happens to be an atheist, who committed an act of terrorism against people of faith.

313 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 5:18:04am

This is not a case of “typical” anything.

314 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 5:19:10am

I am expecting the #tcot to erupt with HURR HURR!!!! TYPICAL ATHEIST!!!!1!! TYPICAL LIBTARD!!!!! HURR HURR BUT TEH MUSLIMS HAD IT COMING!!!!!!!

315 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 5:22:30am

re: #312 The Vicious Babushka

Atheist terrorism can be an actual thing when atheists kill for atheism.

While most of the people killed by communists weren’t killed because of atheism, some of them were, and that also counts as an act of atheistic (state) terror.

316 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 5:25:21am
317 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 5:26:29am

re: #315 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Atheist terrorism can be an actual thing when atheists kill for atheism.

While most of the people killed by communists weren’t killed because of atheism, some of them were, and that also counts as an act of atheistic (state) terror.

The French Revolution “Reign of Terror”
The Khmer Rouge

318 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 5:26:46am

re: #313 The Vicious Babushka

This is not a case of “typical” anything.

Well, he certainly appears to be hiding his vicious bigotry behind a veneer of ‘liberalism”.

319 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 5:28:57am
320 Shiplord Kirel  Feb 11, 2015 5:41:18am

Freeper response

He may have had a perfectly rational reason for killing them. I wonder if it had anything to do with them funding Syrian “refugees.”

41 posted on 2/11/2015, 7:22:30 AM by BykrBayb (Where there is life, there is hope. - Terri Schiavo ~ Þ)

Still beating the Schiavo drum but willing to give the outright murder of 3 young people the benefit of the doubt? These people are depraved.

321 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 5:44:05am

re: #320 Shiplord Kirel

The wingnut heads must be exploding now. A liberal murdered Muslims, “who to root for?”. I’m pretty sure they don’t give a fuck about the three bright, young people murdered though.

322 wrenchwench  Feb 11, 2015 5:46:01am

re: #315 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Atheist terrorism can be an actual thing when atheists kill for atheism.

While most of the people killed by communists weren’t killed because of atheism, some of them were, and that also counts as an act of atheistic (state) terror.

Are you equating “the state” with “atheism”? In some case?

323 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 5:46:28am

re: #322 wrenchwench

Are you equating “the state” with “atheism”? In some case?

USSR was an officially atheistic state.

324 wrenchwench  Feb 11, 2015 5:48:10am

re: #323 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

USSR was an officially atheistic state.

So murders by the USSR can be counted as “atheism” in action?

325 Doofus  Feb 11, 2015 5:51:23am

My computer crashed and now all of the other computers have slowed down to look.

326 Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2015 5:51:37am

re: #324 wrenchwench

So murders by the USSR can be counted as “atheism” in action?

“Let’s get organized and kill people in the name of Nullah.”

327 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 5:52:18am

re: #324 wrenchwench

So murders by the USSR can be counted as “atheism” in action?

When they were committed for atheistic reasons. For example, if under Lenin or Stalin a believer was shot or sent to GULAG just for being a believer (this did not automatically happen to all believers, but that’s not the point), this was a consequence of the terrorist state being atheistic (at least in the sense in which the Soviets understood atheism; they had their own brand, “scientific atheism”, which was a mix of atheism, science, anti-clericalism, Marxism etc.; formally speaking, an atheist need not be anti-religious at all, but the Soviet atheism was more than mere lack of belief in God).

328 wrenchwench  Feb 11, 2015 5:54:15am

re: #327 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

When they were committed for atheistic reasons. For example, if under Lenin or Stalin a believer was shot or sent to GULAG just for being a believer (this did not automatically happen to all believers, but that’s not the point), this was a consequence of the terrorist state being atheistic (at least in the sense in which the Soviets understood atheism; they had they own brand, “scientific atheism”, which was a mix of atheism, science, anti-clericalism, Marxism etc.; formally speaking, an atheist need not be anti-religious at all, but the Soviet atheism was more than mere lack of belief in God).

OK.

329 Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2015 5:59:36am

re: #327 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

In the 50’s, the great Catholic cause was the imprisonment of Cardinal Mindszenty in Poland. It still appeared that the Communist persecution was more a matter of stifling the competition than real ideology.

330 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 6:00:25am

I’ve been served with 2 criminal complaints by the beached whale who shoved me down at my g-daughter’s house.

She is evidently claiming (from what I’ve heard) that I “scratched” her and damaged the front door which was already damaged (that one by my gd’s husband).

They’re stupid rednecks who are all about revenge and money.

Now my entire family is worried about the safety of my grand-daughter whose FB page has been taken down and who won’t (or can’t) return calls or messages.

331 wrenchwench  Feb 11, 2015 6:03:44am

Someone did this to me yesterday but it was just tweets, and I don’t know the person’s gender or race.

332 Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2015 6:03:49am

re: #330 Justanotherhuman

You’ve put them on the police radar, which should dampen any future excesses. Other than that, not much can be done. Is there a DHR/CPS angle?

333 lawhawk  Feb 11, 2015 6:07:11am
334 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 6:09:21am

And the #tcot jubilation begins==>

335 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 6:13:50am

Erick Erickson is Tweeting anti-religion memes from the killer’s FB, to show what a HURR HURR TYPICAL ATHEIST LIBRUL!!!!!!!

336 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 6:14:02am

re: #332 Decatur Deb

You’ve put them on the police radar, which should dampen any future excesses. Other than that, not much can be done. Is there a DHR/CPS angle?

I have no idea. The munchkin was waiting in my car with a clear view of the porch and saw everything go down. I’ve only met this woman 2 times and know nothing about her business except what my g-daughter has told me .

337 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 6:14:18am
338 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 6:15:30am

re: #336 Justanotherhuman

I also called t he Sheriff’s Dept and was told the warrant on her had not been served. So she’s hiding out and people are lying about her whereabouts, most likely.

339 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 6:17:17am

Three beautiful, promising, idealistic young people are dead and all the wingnuts can think about is their political butthurt.

340 FemNaziBitch  Feb 11, 2015 6:21:17am

ANTI-LYNCHING LAWS violate STATES RIGHTS!!!!!

341 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 6:22:09am

re: #340 FemNaziBitch

ANTI-LYNCHING LAWS violate STATES RIGHTS!!!!!

That’s almost literally what Sumners said.

342 FemNaziBitch  Feb 11, 2015 6:22:24am

and how is everyone this morning? It’s not too bad in my part of the world, so far.

343 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 11, 2015 6:24:10am

So why is there a “distinguished lecture series” named after this racist, pro-lynching miscreant?

344 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 6:24:11am

Draft war powers legislation sent to Congress by President Obama references deaths of James Foley, Steven Sotloff, Abdul-Rahman Peter Kassig and Kayla Mueller
end of alert

29m
More: President Obama has asked Congress to limit war powers authorization to 3 years, with no restriction on where US forces might pursue Islamic State threat - @AP
read more on bigstory.ap.org

345 lawhawk  Feb 11, 2015 6:24:52am

Hate crimes take all shapes and forms. Today’s mass killing of three Muslim students near UNC Chapel Hill is one such incident. The identity of the victims is clear, and it is also clear that they were killed because they were Muslim.

We’re now learning about the identity of the shooter, and his motivations.

He sought to kill these Muslim students. And these three people who wanted to do good for their communities:

Barakat and Abu-Salha were married Dec. 27. Abu-Salha’s Facebook photo - posted two days ago - shows her smiling as her father twirls her around the wedding dance floor.

She was scheduled to graduate in December with a degree in biological sciences from NCSU, according to a university release, and she graduated in 2011 from Athens Drive High School in Raleigh. Her sister Razan Abu-Salha graduated from Athens Drive in 2013 and was studying architecture and environmental design at NCSU.

Barakat, a Syrian-American, majored in business administration and management at NCSU before enrolling at UNC-Chapel Hill in 2013 to pursue his doctorate in dental surgery.

Both he and Abu-Salha advocated for global dental health, providing care and supplies to people in the United States and the Middle East. On Jan. 29, Barakat posted a Facebook photo of a Durham project that gave dental supplies and food to more than 75 homeless people this year.

That the shooter was an atheist is unusual but rather besides the point. His motivations are quite similar to those of others who kill or espouse violence towards Muslims (or other minorities), including many so-called Christians who have no issue killing (or calling for the killing) of non-Christians.

Interesting too that he targeted three Muslims, and not three fundamentalist Christians, who are far more prevalent in North Carolina. His targeting of three Muslims may also stem from a possible altercation over a parking spot (as some reports are alluding to).

In the end, he still killed three people, and a community grieves over a senseless murder spree.

That this is yet another mass killing involving firearms, and that the shooter was apparently a good guy with a gun right up until he murdered three people is going to be lost on many who who focus instead on the atheist leanings of the shooter as indicative of a left-leaning ideology (as if there aren’t right wing examples of atheists?!)

I’m also sure that Chuckles will be digging into the backgrounds of the victims to find justifications for their being killed. Because that’s what Chuckles does.

346 FemNaziBitch  Feb 11, 2015 6:24:58am

re: #339 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Three beautiful, promising, idealistic young people are dead and all the wingnuts can think about is their political butthurt.

Militant Athiest?

Just shows that Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is No Vice — Barry Goldwater, IIRC.

So Sad.

I’m pretty tired of our future (our Young People) being taken from us. Either by violence or by the System.

347 CuriousLurker  Feb 11, 2015 6:26:39am

re: #339 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Three beautiful, promising, idealistic young people are dead and all the wingnuts can think about is their political butthurt.

Indeed. They’re not even bothering with the pretense of being saddened by the deaths. Pro-lifers! *spit*

I think I’d better stay in lurk mode today—I’m too pissed off & disgusted by all aspects of this.

348 lawhawk  Feb 11, 2015 6:28:36am

re: #344 Justanotherhuman

Yup. The President is now putting the onus on the GOP in Congress to do something that they’ve refused to do for the past 6+ years. Govern/legislate and do their constitutional obligations.

The President wants an AUMF. He’s calling on the GOP to formulate one. Much hilarity will ensue because it clearly shows that the President is more than willing to go to war against ISIL, but wants to see what the GOP is actually willing to do.

My guess? The GOP will claim that this is the President abdicating his responsibility to protect the nation from this ongoing threat. That it’s a sign of weakness (because the GOP is all about the pivot - whatever the president is for, the GOP is reflexively against, even if they were calling for action moments before).

349 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 6:29:17am

re: #343 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

So why is there a “distinguished lecture series” named after this racist, pro-lynching miscreant?

Good question.

350 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 6:29:37am

re: #345 lawhawk

So—white entitled atheist assumes Muslims have no right to parking spaces?

That’s a damned specious argument for killing people, although we know there is no accounting for crazed gunmen’s motives.

351 Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2015 6:29:45am

re: #345 lawhawk

Hate crimes take all shapes and forms. Today’s mass killing of three Muslim students near UNC Chapel Hill is one such incident. The identity of the victims is clear, and it is also clear that they were killed because they were Muslim.

We’re now learning about the identity of the shooter, and his motivations.

He sought to kill these Muslim students. And these three people who wanted to do good for their communities:

That the shooter was an atheist is unusual but rather besides the point. His motivations are quite similar to those of others who kill or espouse violence towards Muslims (or other minorities), including many so-called Christians who have no issue killing (or calling for the killing) of non-Christians.

Interesting too that he targeted three Muslims, and not three fundamentalist Christians, who are far more prevalent in North Carolina. His targeting of three Muslims may also stem from a possible altercation over a parking spot (as some reports are alluding to).

In the end, he still killed three people, and a community grieves over a senseless murder spree.

That this is yet another mass killing involving firearms, and that the shooter was apparently a good guy with a gun right up until he murdered three people is going to be lost on many who who focus instead on the atheist leanings of the shooter as indicative of a left-leaning ideology (as if there aren’t right wing examples of atheists?!)

I’m also sure that Chuckles will be digging into the backgrounds of the victims to find justifications for their being killed. Because that’s what Chuckles does.

The fact that he was their neighbor is keeping me from leaping to a pure ideological motive. You are more likely to get shot over dogshit on the lawn than your religion, whatever the sect.

352 Higgs Boson's Mate  Feb 11, 2015 6:30:56am

I’m wondering why the media finds it necessary to state the victims’ religion. I don’t recall ever reading “Three Methodists killed…”

353 CuriousLurker  Feb 11, 2015 6:30:58am

re: #345 lawhawk

I wonder if the NRA will be calling for all Muslims to arm themselves to the teeth and/or open carry now… //

Arrgh, I’m in a really foul mood. I’m outta here.

Later, lizards.

354 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 6:32:08am

re: #352 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I’m wondering why the media finds it necessary to state the victims’ religion. I don’t recall ever reading “Three Methodists killed…”

Because there’s a palpable anti-Muslim sentiment in the US. This is relevant.

355 FemNaziBitch  Feb 11, 2015 6:33:58am

Talk about irony:

Jon Stewart is leaving The Daily Show after 16 years
Jon Stewart, the brilliantly irreverent humorist and host of The Daily Show, has announced that he is leaving late-night’s greatest news desk.

Stewart apparently told the audience at the taping of Tuesday’s episode that he’s retiring from The Daily Show, the satirical news program that has won 18 Primetime Emmy Awards and made Stewart the most trusted name in news for millennials.

356 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 6:35:00am

re: #354 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

There’s also a palpable anti-atheist sentiment, as well.

Which makes me wonder if this guy is on the up and up and hiding behind a “liberal’ veneer.

I mean, isn’t the RW always looking for a ‘liberal”who does what they do to crucify?

357 FemNaziBitch  Feb 11, 2015 6:35:41am

re: #352 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I’m wondering why the media finds it necessary to state the victims’ religion. I don’t recall ever reading “Three Methodists killed…”

It sells.

Remember our News Media isn’t performing a public service, it is a product.
America is a business.

358 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 6:36:12am

#tcot hasn’t received their talking points yet. On the one hand they are happy that they can’t be blamed for the shooter, but they can’t feel any empathy for the victims either.

359 FemNaziBitch  Feb 11, 2015 6:37:10am

Sign if you wish:
Investigate the death of our son John P. Quintero

On January 3, 2015, my son John Paul Quintero was shot and killed by police. He was 23 years old and unarmed at the time of the shooting. I watched him die in front of me.

360 lawhawk  Feb 11, 2015 6:37:28am
361 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 6:38:52am
362 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 11, 2015 6:39:20am

This happened 25 years ago.

washingtonpost.com

Gosh I’m old.

363 Bubblehead II  Feb 11, 2015 6:40:15am

re: #342 FemNaziBitch

and how is everyone this morning? It’s not too bad in my part of the world, so far.

So far so good. looks like it’s going to be a very nice day today. Which is good because I am hoping to be able finally find the &^%^$# oil leak on my truck this afternoon after it warms up.

364 Great White Snark  Feb 11, 2015 6:40:16am

re: #352 Higgs Boson’s Mate

I’m wondering why the media finds it necessary to state the victims’ religion. I don’t recall ever reading “Three Methodists killed…”

My take? Let’s stop pretending we have to wonder why. Too much benefit of doubt. War drums. Pandering to our worst impulses.

365 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 6:40:38am

re: #356 Justanotherhuman

There’s also a palpable anti-atheist sentiment, as well.

If someone with fixation on anti-atheism happened to kill a bunch of “obvious” atheists, it would be relevant to mention that in the news, even if in the end the killing turned out not to be about ideology.

366 lawhawk  Feb 11, 2015 6:42:21am

Wait, weren’t we told that Chris Kyle’s killer was a Muslim because he had a beard? So, what do we see when you look at photos/video from the courtroom?

The killer, Eddie Routh, doesn’t have a beard.

367 Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2015 6:44:42am

re: #366 lawhawk

Wait, weren’t we told that Chris Kyle’s killer was a Muslim because he had a beard? So, what do we see when you look at photos/video from the courtroom?

The killer, Eddie Routh, doesn’t have a beard.

Does in his mug shot. IIRC they both had beards at one time or another.

Image: routh-mug.jpg

368 Timothy Watson  Feb 11, 2015 6:46:35am

re: #367 Decatur Deb

Does in his mug shot. IIRC they both had beards at one time or another.

Image: routh-mug.jpg

In one of his court appearance he was sporting a longer beard too.

His defense attorney might have advised him to shave because the longer beard made him look a little on the crazy side.

369 Sionainn  Feb 11, 2015 6:46:57am

re: #268 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Having looked at the FB now, it is clear why they’re saying that they’re not sure about motive. His is a typical atheistic page against all religions, without a special anti-Muslim slant.

That’s not a typical atheist page. Atheists don’t even think about religion unless it’s shoved in their face. This guy is an anti-theist.

370 urbanmeemaw  Feb 11, 2015 6:47:12am

re: #127 ObserverArt

That’s it!

Damn creepy.

Didn’t John Cook leave The Church of Whinentology?

371 FemNaziBitch  Feb 11, 2015 6:48:47am

bbl

372 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 6:48:53am
373 Higgs Boson's Mate  Feb 11, 2015 6:49:30am

re: #362 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

This happened 25 years ago.

washingtonpost.com

Gosh I’m old.

Hmmm. I was in my mid-twenties when the Thrilla in Manilla went down. That was forty years ago.

374 urbanmeemaw  Feb 11, 2015 6:50:27am

re: #151 teleskiguy

I remember when the Snowden files broke. As usual, I checked LGF and from day one we’ve been highly critical of Greenwald and his Snowden writings. And rightly so. It was the summer of 2013 when I became familiar with the reality that is the circle of derp.

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That’s what brought me to LGF. I must have had link from another site, but i forgot which one it was. I thought they were frauds from day one.

375 Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2015 6:50:30am

re: #372 Justanotherhuman

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“If”.

There is a reason for the 24-hour rule, and if you throw in guns, religion, and ideology 24 days isn’t enough.

376 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 6:52:05am

re: #369 Sionainn

That’s not a typical atheist page.

OK, what I mean is a dedicated atheistic page. Not a general page by an atheist (which can be a page about puppies or rainbows). It’s not different from thousands of other such pages. Most of the content would be at home here, at LGF, as people post memes critical of religion in general here from time to time.

377 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 6:53:07am

Ben defecates out of his mouth hole.

378 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 11, 2015 6:53:44am

re:
#361

So I have never actually met @EWErickson in person but it appears he’s the type of adult male who blocks you then tweets about you.

Assuming facts not in evidence. /

379 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 6:53:48am

Well, GG is all over these latest killings, atheism, and so forth, such as this;

Wut?

380 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 6:54:50am

re: #379 Justanotherhuman

GG is like Upchuck. Must be a tick on the body of every story.

381 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 6:54:51am
382 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 6:55:56am

re: #379 Justanotherhuman

Well, GG is all over these latest killings, atheism, and so forth, such as this;

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Wut?

I read that Palinesque sentence 5 times and it still makes no sense.

383 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 11, 2015 6:56:13am

re:
#377

Chances that Obama will label today’s horrible targeted killing of Muslim students in NC “random”: 0%.

That’s our Ben: using his platform to seek peace and tolerance amidst our diversity. //

384 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 6:56:37am

re: #381 The Vicious Babushka

DecaturDeb called it first.

385 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 6:56:51am

Erick the Erick just retweeted Glenn Greenwald.

The Circle of Derp is complete.

386 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 6:57:33am

This for #381…

Um, see #372.

387 Varek Raith  Feb 11, 2015 6:58:00am

re: #385 The Vicious Babushka

Erick the Erick just retweeted Glenn Greenwald.

The Circle of Derp is complete.

Ha!

388 b.d.  Feb 11, 2015 6:58:14am

re: #379 Justanotherhuman

Well, GG is all over these latest killings, atheism, and so forth, such as this;

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Wut?

New Atheism is a thing? It has leaders and a dogma?

What an idiot. Of course Glenn is above all religions, he is even above atheism.

389 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 11, 2015 6:58:16am

re:
#380

GG is like Upchuck. Must be a tick on the body of every story.

Which reminds me of a great NSA story on our First Look Media page, which you should definitely read.

390 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 6:58:50am

re: #388 b.d.

New Atheism is a thing? It has leaders and a dogma?

What an idiot. Of course Glenn is above all religions, he is even above atheism.

Glenn’s religion is Glenn.

391 lawhawk  Feb 11, 2015 6:59:45am

Not good:

The right wing will make this out to be a failure of the Admin, even though the Admin shut the Embassy because of the very concerns about the Houthi.

392 Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2015 6:59:47am

re: #384 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

DecaturDeb called it first.

Experience. My old next door neighbor pulled a gun on the kids across the street over penny bottle rockets.

393 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 11, 2015 7:00:09am

re:
#385

The Circle of Derp is complete.

Joined maybe. But never complete. Just keeps going round and round. /

394 Mike Lamb  Feb 11, 2015 7:00:13am

re: #388 b.d.

New Atheism is a thing? It has leaders and a dogma?

What an idiot. Of course Glenn is above all religions, he is even above atheism.

Yes, it’s leader is the Epop, who lives in Nacitav Ytic. You haven’t been getting the newsletter?

395 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 7:00:58am

re: #391 lawhawk

Not good:

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The right wing will make this out to be a failure of the Admin, even though the Admin shut the Embassy because of the very concerns about the Houthi.

No, it’s not…

France’s embassy in Yemen urges French nationals to leave country ‘as fast as possible’ - @France24_en
end of alert

396 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 7:01:08am

re: #388 b.d.

It’s more of a “media” thing. You know, the “pundits” need a label for everything, so, yeah, Dawkins, Hitchens et al. were branded “New Atheists”, even though there is nothing fucking new about their atheism at all. I admit not to having read anything book-length religion-related by any of the so-called “New Atheists” because I was an atheist way before these books.

397 Varek Raith  Feb 11, 2015 7:01:30am

re: #394 Mike Lamb

Yes, it’s leader is the Epop, who lives in Nacitav Ytic. You haven’t been getting the newsletter?

Tah ynnuf a raew epop eht seod?

398 wrenchwench  Feb 11, 2015 7:03:32am

re: #390 The Vicious Babushka

Glenn’s religion is Glenn.

399 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 7:07:35am

This is the most sickening, deranged Tweet about Kayla Mueller you will ever see.

Click at your own risk. You have been warned.

400 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 7:10:08am

Translation: “We will never give this Black guy what he wants.”

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell says Senate will ‘thoughtfully’ review president’s war powers legislation - @McConnellPress
see original on twitter.com

401 Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2015 7:11:43am

re: #400 Justanotherhuman

Translation: “We will never give this Black guy what he wants.”

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell says Senate will ‘thoughtfully’ review president’s war powers legislation - @McConnellPress
see original on twitter.com

It’s a trap. POTUS has all the power he needs to do what he wants. This just puts the chickenhawks in the public record.

402 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 11, 2015 7:13:50am

re: #273 Justanotherhuman

I’m an atheist, and while I can’t abide religion per se, I am still respectful of the human beings who practice it.

That is a fine line and a nuance lost on 90% of the public discourse on religion today.

403 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 11, 2015 7:15:28am

re:
#399

Oh, has TCOT found out about her activism?

I’m sure they’re responding in a rational, humane manner. /////

404 Bubblehead II  Feb 11, 2015 7:15:31am

re: #399 The Vicious Babushka

This is the most sickening, deranged Tweet about Kayla Mueller you will ever see.

Click at your own risk. You have been warned.

Believe me, the urge to use a more crude anatomical description for this woman was hard to resist.

405 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 11, 2015 7:18:28am

Why won’t Obama do something about ISIS/ISIL???

Obama asks congress for AUMF.

What’s this? It’s outrageous. It does too much/not enough.

406 Eventual Carrion  Feb 11, 2015 7:19:10am

re: #337 The Vicious Babushka

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And it it were a tea asshole or religious person the right would be saying he was a lone wolf, or a false flag incident, or that the people deserved it, or …

407 lawhawk  Feb 11, 2015 7:19:22am

re: #405 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

408 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 7:20:02am

re: #404 Bubblehead II

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Believe me, the urge to use a more crude anatomical description for this woman was hard to resist.

She’s not a Christian.

409 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 7:20:11am

re: #406 Eventual Carrion

And it it were a tea asshole or religious person the right would be saying he was a lone wolf, or a false flag incident, or that the people deserved it, or …

They’re already wondering if they deserved it.

410 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 7:20:37am

UK ‘did not seek torture redactions’ from CIA report - MPs

bbc.com

411 Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2015 7:21:48am

Off to another hour of Civ4/hamster biking. I’m about to drive FDR’s interlopers off my continent.

412 wrenchwench  Feb 11, 2015 7:23:22am

re: #411 Decatur Deb

Off to another hour of Civ4/hamster biking. I’m about to drive FDR’s interlopers off my continent.

The electronics I added to my hamsterbike only made it more boring!

413 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 7:24:10am

Whatever the motive was, this does raise the issue of guns in wrong hands again.

414 lawhawk  Feb 11, 2015 7:24:38am
415 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 7:24:40am

re: #413 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Whatever the motive was, this does raise the issue of guns in wrong hands again.

Moreso if the motive turns out to be non-ideological.

416 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 11, 2015 7:24:48am

re: #413 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Whatever the motive was, this does raise the issue of guns in wrong hands again.

There were not enough Good Guys With Guns (TM) present to prevent it!!!

/

417 Decatur Deb  Feb 11, 2015 7:26:12am

re: #412 wrenchwench

The electronics I added to my hamsterbike only made it more boring!

Bummer—I’m using a dying laptop remotely with large screen TV and wireless mouse. I could actually type to LGF if my worksurface were a bit more stable.

418 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 11, 2015 7:26:12am

re: #399 The Vicious Babushka

This is the most sickening, deranged Tweet about Kayla Mueller you will ever see.

Click at your own risk. You have been warned.

I’m callused by seeing Israelis call Rachel Corrie “St. Rachel of the Pancake” all these many ears.

419 Bubblehead II  Feb 11, 2015 7:26:56am

re: #408 The Vicious Babushka

She’s not a Christian.

As we define a Christian perhaps. Now the way wingnuts (and Bryan Fischer) define a Christian? That is whole other bag of worms.

420 wrenchwench  Feb 11, 2015 7:27:29am

And one for Geller:

421 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 7:28:28am

re: #419 Bubblehead II

As we define a Christian perhaps. Now the way wingnuts (and Bryan Fischer) define a Christian? That is whole other bag of worms.

She’s Jewish.

422 Eventual Carrion  Feb 11, 2015 7:29:00am

re: #381 The Vicious Babushka

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That, of course in American tradition, needed to be solved with a gun. To early to talk about it? Might get some traction now that an “atheist”/”leftist” did the shooting, or will the religion of the victims negate that?

423 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 7:29:35am

re: #420 wrenchwench

Not quite. “Let’s blame all liberals/atheists/…” (c) wingnuts

424 Bubblehead II  Feb 11, 2015 7:30:48am

re: #421 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

She’s Jewish.

Oops! My bad then. Shows how much I really pay attention to some of these people.

425 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 11, 2015 7:31:35am

re:
#420

Don’t blame us!! Were the REAL victims here!!!!111

426 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 7:32:09am

re: #419 Bubblehead II

As we define a Christian perhaps. Now the way wingnuts (and Bryan Fischer) define a Christian? That is whole other bag of worms.

I mean she’s Jewish, she doesn’t believe in Jesus.

427 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 7:33:19am

re: #418 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

I’m callused by seeing Israelis call Rachel Corrie “St. Rachel of the Pancake” all these many ears.

Well there used to be some of that right here, but we grew up.

428 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 7:34:44am

re: #424 Bubblehead II

Oops! My bad then. Shows how much I really pay attention to some of these people.

Good for you, I must say :)

429 Bubblehead II  Feb 11, 2015 7:34:50am

re: #426 The Vicious Babushka

I mean she’s Jewish, she doesn’t believe in Jesus.

So I have been told/educated about. Probably It was a knee jerk assumption on my part to assume she was Christian.

*corrected. No probably about it.

430 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 7:36:52am

re: #427 The Vicious Babushka

Yep. What counts is now, and the lessons we drew from all this.

431 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 7:39:07am

re: #429 Bubblehead II

So I have been told/educated about. Probably It was a knee jerk assumption on my part to assume she was Christian.

*corrected. No probably about it.

Heh, you know, I would say, if Ben Shapiro wants to self-identify as a Judeo-Christian, more power to him. //

432 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 7:40:39am

Our Three Winners, a FB page dedicated to the shooting victims:

facebook.com

433 Romantic Heretic  Feb 11, 2015 7:41:20am

re: #303 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

I posted a lot of stuff above. He is a left-wing liberal, probable Obama voter, anti-teabagger, pro-choice and pro-LGBT/SSM.

In other words a classic example of the Daoist aphorism, “What you resist, you become.

434 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 7:41:45am
435 wrenchwench  Feb 11, 2015 7:42:13am

re: #434 The Vicious Babushka

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436 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 11, 2015 7:43:48am

He was an ATHIEST dammit!!! GODLESSNESS IS HE ROOT CAUSED OF ALL EVIL!!!

/

437 Romantic Heretic  Feb 11, 2015 7:45:20am

re: #330 Justanotherhuman

I’ve been served with 2 criminal complaints by the beached whale who shoved me down at my g-daughter’s house.

She is evidently claiming (from what I’ve heard) that I “scratched” her and damaged the front door which was already damaged (that one by my gd’s husband).

They’re stupid rednecks who are all about revenge and money.

Now my entire family is worried about the safety of my grand-daughter whose FB page has been taken down and who won’t (or can’t) return calls or messages.

I’m afraid the blood just drained from my face when I read this.

Sending strength and positive vibes your way.

438 Romantic Heretic  Feb 11, 2015 7:46:37am

re: #343 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

So why is there a “distinguished lecture series” named after this racist, pro-lynching miscreant?

Because the people attending it want the days back where people could be this way without consequence.

439 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 11, 2015 7:47:40am

re: #438 Romantic Heretic

Because the people attending it want the days back where people could be this way without consequence.

And they will insist that he was just being a “racial realist”.

440 Romantic Heretic  Feb 11, 2015 7:49:41am

re: #357 FemNaziBitch

It sells.

Remember our News Media isn’t performing a public service, it is a product.
America is a business.

Which means that a person is only as important as their contribution to the business.

No contribution? You’re fired. Government by Trump™.

441 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 7:50:02am

The Sumners foundation was founded by Sumners himself, so that answers the question of how it got its name - but the question is why would it still exist at all. Will there be a “David Duke Foundation” in 50 years sponsoring conservative events?

442 WhatEVs  Feb 11, 2015 7:52:09am

re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth

Kanye West lyrics for I Am A God.
This is a musical genius?
good fuckin grief…

I must be really old (or prefer to speak English). What the heck do those lyrics even mean (other than I got money and no class)?

443 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 11, 2015 7:52:36am

re: #357 FemNaziBitch

Remember our News Media isn’t performing a public service, it is a product.
America is a business.

Many of us are also still under the illusion that we are the “consumers” and that news is their “product”.

When in fact, the product they sell is advertising time, and their customers are the potential advertisers. News and programming are there simply to attract more viewers/listeners and increase the value of their product.

And whatever attracts the desired audience determines what they will broadcast.

444 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 7:59:32am

re: #437 Romantic Heretic

I’m afraid the blood just drained from my face when I read this.

Sending strength and positive vibes your way.

Thanks so much! It’s been exhausting…

445 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 8:01:16am

HURR HURR TYPICAL ATHEIST OBAMA VOTER!!!!!1!!

446 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 8:01:40am

Statement from director of Council on American-Islamic Relations on Chapel Hill, NC, murders: ‘Based on the brutal nature of this crime … the religious attire of two of the victims, and the rising anti-Muslim rhetoric in American society, we urge state and federal law enforcement authorities to quickly address speculation of a possible bias motive in this case’ - @AP
end of alert

447 lawhawk  Feb 11, 2015 8:01:40am

Because demanding tort reform is somehow related to a person’s right to counsel and defending a rapist is somehow equivalent to a civil tort case where the counsel makes coin?

This is what passes for Rubin logic? Seriously?

448 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 8:04:25am

re: #447 lawhawk

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Because demanding tort reform is somehow related to a person’s right to counsel and defending a rapist is somehow equivalent to a civil tort case where the counsel makes coin?

This is what passes for Rubin logic? Seriously?

Jen has always been an ignorant twit, even if you’ve only read one of her pieces as evidence of same.

449 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 8:05:08am
450 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Feb 11, 2015 8:06:42am

re:
#445

And this RWNJ tweeter goes by the name of….Killer Bunny?

/

451 wrenchwench  Feb 11, 2015 8:08:13am

re: #450 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

re:
#445

And this RWNJ tweeter goes by the name of….Killer Bunny?

/

Every bunny has to eat…..

452 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 8:10:00am

GG trying to make up for his ignorant, biased tweets by re-tweeting this one:

news.atheists.org

453 lawhawk  Feb 11, 2015 8:11:23am

Atheist ≠ anti-theist.

454 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 8:12:51am

re: #453 lawhawk

Atheist ≠ anti-theist.

I don’t even know what an “anti-theist” is. Every anti-theist defines it differently.

I’ve seen it used to denote:
1. People who are against God under any circumstances (i.e. even if they’re not atheists and believe in God, they’re still against him because they think he’s evil, etc.).
2. People who are against all believers in God (theists).
3. People who are against specifically theism.

Finally, it is sometimes used to denote very militant atheists.

455 Feline Fearless Leader  Feb 11, 2015 8:14:44am

re: #454 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

I don’t even know what an “anti-theist” is. Every anti-theist defines it differently.

I’ve seen it used to denote:
1. People who are against God under any circumstances (i.e. even if they’re not atheists and believe in God, they’re still against him because they think he’s evil, etc.).
2. People who are against all believers in God (theists).
3. People who are against specifically theism.

Finally, it is sometimes used to denote very militant atheists.

Indication that a single-axis definition is not very accurate. Probably need to cross it with another axis indicating level of asshole-ness or tendency to solve issues via threats and violence.

456 wrenchwench  Feb 11, 2015 8:15:41am

re: #454 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

You left off my Marxist commentary on that…

457 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 8:17:00am

It seems that most people, even prominent internet atheists, haven’t read the guy’s FB page, at most having seen a screenshot with “anti-theist” at the masthead, and are jumping to some unwarranted conclusions.

458 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 8:22:26am
459 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 8:25:51am

Wingnuts still can’t get their talking points straight.

HURR HURR ATHEIST LIBRUL PROGRESSIVE!!!!1!!!
HURR HURR PARKING DISPUTE!!!!!!!!!!

Of course the anti-Muslim incitement goes on as usual.

460 WhatEVs  Feb 11, 2015 8:26:20am

re: #312 The Vicious Babushka

I don’t think that “atheist terrorism” is an actual thing. What we have here is a bigot, who happens to be an atheist, who committed an act of terrorism against people of faith.

I haven’t made my way through this thread yet, but to me from what I read at the links, it sounds like a neighbor dispute. I don’t think religion played into it at all. It seems the guy just lost his shit over…who knows, dog poo? Loud music? But we’ll see as I continue downward.

461 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 8:26:49am

This is a cuteness break on a sucky day.

462 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 8:27:17am

re: #459 The Vicious Babushka

The MRAs are all over it.

463 D_Red  Feb 11, 2015 8:28:55am

Who is PZ Myers?

464 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 8:29:02am

re: #460 WhatEVs

I don’t think religion played into it at all.

Too early to tell. Half-conscious bias could have very easily played a role even if one assumes a dispute as the main reason.

465 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 8:29:20am

re: #463 D_Red

Who is PZ Myers?

A progressive atheist professor.

466 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 11, 2015 8:30:27am

re: #465 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

A progressive atheist professor.

and advocate of violence against everyone who disagrees with his views, I assume…

467 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 8:30:59am

re: #466 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

and advocate of violence against everyone who disagrees with his views, I assume…

WTF?

468 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 8:31:28am

OMFG
Chucky C is retweeting some of Deah Barakat’s Tweets that he thinks can be construed as “anti-Zionist”

469 Mattand  Feb 11, 2015 8:31:31am

re: #462 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

The fact that these people are practically high-fiving one another over the assailant being atheist, as opposed to being horrified at three people being murdered, is not surprising.

Also, if you’ve followed either PZ Meyers or Rebecca Watson for any length of time, you’d know they usually speak out against violence for any reason.

470 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 8:32:22am

re: #469 Mattand

The fact that these people are practically high-fiving one another over the assailant being atheist, as opposed to being horrified at three people being murdered, is not surprising.

Also, if you’ve followed either PZ Meyers or Rebecca Watson for any length of time, you’d know they usually speak out against violence for any reason.

Yep, they’re ultra-liberal.

MRAs have this reputation of being atheistic libertarians, but as we see, it’s not quite that simple.

471 Mattand  Feb 11, 2015 8:32:48am

re: #467 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

WTF?

I think Wendell’s being sarcastic. Meyers is an avowed pacifist.

472 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 8:32:54am

re: #468 The Vicious Babushka

OMFG
Chucky C is retweeting some of Deah Barakat’s Tweets that he thinks can be construed as “anti-Zionist”

Scum sucker.

473 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 8:35:14am
474 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Feb 11, 2015 8:35:51am

Let’s let PZ speak for himself.

475 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 8:36:22am

re: #473 The Vicious Babushka

He assumes “facts” not in evidence, as usual just making shit up.

476 Mattand  Feb 11, 2015 8:37:01am

re: #470 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Yep, they’re ultra-liberal.

MRAs have this reputation of being atheistic libertarians, but as we see, it’s not quite that simple.

I wasn’t aware of any overt association of MRAs and atheism. Not that it isn’t possible it’s there, but most of my observations of MRAs usually comes from them going after unapologetic atheists like Myers and Watson. They’re usually too foaming out the mouth over “OMG Feminazis have taken my rights” to touch on lack of faith.

477 WhatEVs  Feb 11, 2015 8:38:36am

re: #464 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Too early to tell. Half-conscious bias could have very easily played a role even if one assumes a dispute as the main reason.

True that.

478 D_Red  Feb 11, 2015 8:39:12am

If Israel ever gets a leftist government it’s going to be very interesting to see what happens to the right wingers who conflate any criticism of Israel into a general anti-Semitism.

479 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 8:39:18am

re: #473 The Vicious Babushka

Yes, murder is wicked. But

Stop right there, Chuck.

480 WhatEVs  Feb 11, 2015 8:40:29am

re: #469 Mattand

The fact that these people are practically high-fiving one another over the assailant being atheist, as opposed to being horrified at three people being murdered, is not surprising.

Also, if you’ve followed either PZ Meyers or Rebecca Watson for any length of time, you’d know they usually speak out against violence for any reason.

Not just that, but that their politics is immediately at question. Why? Oh right, Fox News. Nevermind.

481 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 8:41:21am

re: #476 Mattand

I’ve seen it mentioned, incl. around PZ’s blog. No matter: some of the leaders are clearly against atheism.

482 Ace-o-aces  Feb 11, 2015 8:41:31am

re: #404 Bubblehead II

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Believe me, the urge to use a more crude anatomical description for this woman was hard to resist.

Why are you linking to Schlussel? Even Upchuck blocks Schlussel!

483 Mattand  Feb 11, 2015 8:41:52am

re: #479 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Stop right there, Chuck.

I imagine that CCJs web output is the written version of Rush Limbaugh’s show: a non-stop fire hose of bigotry and inaccuracy; kinda like an even more toxic sludge than the goo from Ghostbusters II.

484 The Ghost of Tonalite Gneiss  Feb 11, 2015 8:43:06am

re: #470 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

Yep, they’re ultra-liberal.

MRAs have this reputation of being atheistic libertarians, but as we see, it’s not quite that simple.

More specifically, PZ Meyers and Rebecca Watson are the most outspoken proponents of atheism+, the attempt to construct a secular, inclusive moral movement that specifically rejects things that the atheist community has had issues with in the last few years: sexism and Islamophobic fearmongering.

The people throwing stuff specifically at them—Roosh, Cernovich, etc—are all sexists of the MRA/PUA/Gamergate clade: not content to merely be sexist, but formulating a worldview in which sexism is natural, and feminism is Cultural Marxist conspiracy to disrupt the natural order. They see an opportunity to smear their opponent and they’re taking it.

485 The Vicious Babushka  Feb 11, 2015 8:43:14am
486 Justanotherhuman  Feb 11, 2015 8:44:22am

Oh, really? You actually went there?

vine.co

487 Varek Raith  Feb 11, 2015 8:44:29am

So, what are we arguing about???

488 D_Red  Feb 11, 2015 8:45:16am

re: #485 The Vicious Babushka

His twitter timeline is just heartbreaking

489 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 8:45:30am

re: #487 Varek Raith

So, what are we arguing about???

Choose your topic.

490 WhatEVs  Feb 11, 2015 8:45:52am

re: #486 Justanotherhuman

Oh, really? You actually went there?

vine.co

Holy. Shit.

Self awareness no longer exists.

491 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 8:45:53am

re: #485 The Vicious Babushka

:(

492 Ace-o-aces  Feb 11, 2015 8:47:25am

re: #462 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD

The MRAs are all over it.

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Is it just me, or is Roosh like every bad stereotype of a Persian male come to life?

493 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 8:48:29am

re: #492 Ace-o-aces

Is it just me, or is Roosh like every bad stereotype of a Persian male come to life?

I’m not aware of Persian stereotypes and don’t want to learn.

494 Ace-o-aces  Feb 11, 2015 8:50:16am

Someone get this boy a dictionary.

495 Prof. Backpfeifengesicht, PhD  Feb 11, 2015 8:56:01am

Why does Milo look like a corpse?

Image: B45GbrnCIAAS-NB.jpg

496 urbanmeemaw  Feb 11, 2015 9:01:55am

re: #211 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

The trolls migrate in from Crapistano.

497 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 11, 2015 9:03:50am

re: #471 Mattand

I think Wendell’s being sarcastic. Meyers is an avowed pacifist.

forgot my sarc tag.

we just assume that godless atheists want to kill all true believers.

/ (just to be safe)

498 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Feb 11, 2015 9:05:33am

re: #485 The Vicious Babushka

Our Jewish neighbor came by and wished us a “Happy Ramadan”

Typical crafty Zionists: they just want those Muslims to stare at that fruit basket all day with their mouths watering.

/

499 philosophus invidius  Feb 11, 2015 12:08:39pm
About the Hatton W. Sumners Distinguished Lecture Series

Who is Hatton W. Sumners?

A man of great moral courage and a sincere and deep spiritual conviction, Congressman Sumners was no ordinary public servant. […] It was common knowledge that he was in line for the next appointment to the Supreme Court until his deeply-rooted beliefs in the Constitution and the separation of powers caused him to lead the successful opposition to President Roosevelt’s plan to pack the Supreme Court in 1937.

Although best known for his role in the court fight, Congressman Summers’ enduring legacy is found in his life-long belief in the threat to liberty posed by a too powerful Washington bureaucracy, and in the critical importance to American constitutional government of an informed citizenry that actively participates in the affairs of State.

ncpa.org

500 CriticalDragon1177  Feb 12, 2015 9:46:57am

Gus,

Lovely, as if Greenwald hadn’t already done enough to make himself look bad!


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