2 | Dr. Matt Apr 2, 2015 11:19:31am |
re: #1 Tigger2
Hope it’s good news.
Iran could become a Christian Democracy and the wingnuts would still find a way to smear Teh Blah man in the Whitehouse.
3 | Blind Frog Belly White Apr 2, 2015 11:21:02am |
re: #2 Dr. Matt
Iran could become a Christian Democracy and the wingnuts would still find a way to smear Teh Blah man in the Whitehouse.
They’d just deny it was happening, like the airstrikes on ISIS.
4 | wrenchwench Apr 2, 2015 11:21:54am |
While we wait:
Frankly, we could look at these bunnies all day. More here: http://t.co/ynQbrXc8Cg pic.twitter.com/Wril1QOked— NYT Magazine (@NYTmag) April 2, 2015
5 | Dr. Matt Apr 2, 2015 11:22:31am |
#ThingsJesusNeverSaid You have a divine right to firearms— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) April 2, 2015
6 | Blind Frog Belly White Apr 2, 2015 11:24:36am |
re: #4 wrenchwench
While we wait:
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That’s just sad. Spray some Endust on that thing and chase it under the couch.
7 | Charles Johnson Apr 2, 2015 11:24:55am |
I wonder how the right wing is going to react to Obama's statement on Iran? (Do I need an LOL?)— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) April 2, 2015
9 | wrenchwench Apr 2, 2015 11:27:22am |
re: #6 Blind Frog Belly White
That’s just sad. Spray some Endust on that thing and chase it under the couch.
No spray! No dust! That would be sad! (One of them has chocolate in it’s name!)
10 | lawhawk Apr 2, 2015 11:28:39am |
re: #7 Charles Johnson
I’m betting on the whole Chamberlain peace in our time line, ignoring that Reagan cut a deal with the Soviets on arms control, and that deal pushed concept of trust, but verify.
Do the right wingers think that there will be no verification, or that blind trust is all the P5+1 will do?
More to the point, it does seem that right wing and a bunch of Israelis think that these talks consist solely of the US and Iran, and that everyone else has to abide by the deal. There are multiple countries involved, and the talks are the work of consensus between the parties. Any deal will have to be signed off by all those involved, not just the US and Iran.
Of course, the right wing wont stop trying to sabotage any deal done. They’ve threatened as much.
11 | Dr. Matt Apr 2, 2015 11:30:58am |
Wow.
*Iran agreed to inspections.
*Spent plutonium will be shipped out of the country.
*Won’t stockpile uranium
12 | Kragar Apr 2, 2015 11:31:11am |
FOX NEWS: OBAMA CONTINUES TO MEDDLE IN TOM COTTON'S FOREIGN POLICY— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) April 2, 2015
14 | klys (maker of Silmarils) Apr 2, 2015 11:34:19am |
I love having a president who deals with reality.
15 | Targetpractice Apr 2, 2015 11:34:53am |
re: #10 lawhawk
I’m betting on the whole Chamberlain peace in our time line, ignoring that Reagan cut a deal with the Soviets on arms control, and that deal pushed concept of trust, but verify.
Do the right wingers think that there will be no verification, or that blind trust is all the P5+1 will do?
More to the point, it does seem that right wing and a bunch of Israelis think that these talks consist solely of the US and Iran, and that everyone else has to abide by the deal. There are multiple countries involved, and the talks are the work of consensus between the parties. Any deal will have to be signed off by all those involved, not just the US and Iran.
Of course, the right wing wont stop trying to sabotage any deal done. They’ve threatened as much.
It should also be remembered that the deals that Reagan negotiated with the USSR concerning nuclear arms did not meet the demands of the extremes, they did not seek total disarmament but they also got rid of more weapons and types of weapons than hardliners approved of. Anybody who has a modicum of sanity would say that was a good deal, but I don’t doubt that the hardliners here and Iran will cry foul.
16 | #FergusonFireside Apr 2, 2015 11:35:16am |
John McCain welcomes historic breakthrough with Iran and lessening of war threat . . . . . . . . . . (Kidding) pic.twitter.com/JOGRYD3g4B
17 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 11:35:57am |
re: #16 #FergusonFireside
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I really wish he’d just retire already. You know he’s going to find something wrong with the president’s statement today.
18 | Kragar Apr 2, 2015 11:36:03am |
19 | Blind Frog Belly White Apr 2, 2015 11:36:25am |
re: #17 HappyWarrior
I really wish he’d just retire already. You know he’s going to find something wrong with the president’s statement today.
Well, obviously the person delivering it.
20 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 11:36:41am |
re: #11 Dr. Matt
Wow.
*Iran agreed to inspections.
*Spent plutonium will be shipped out of the country.
*Won’t stockpile uranium
Would have been nice if Bush’s FP team had tried to get this done in Iraq instead of going in dick first.
21 | Tigger2 Apr 2, 2015 11:37:27am |
re: #16 #FergusonFireside
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I don’t think McCain is ever really happy about anything,
22 | wrenchwench Apr 2, 2015 11:38:12am |
Obama’s asking the loaded question:
Is this deal worse then another war in the middle east?
23 | Targetpractice Apr 2, 2015 11:38:24am |
re: #20 HappyWarrior
Would have been nice if Bush’s FP team had tried to get this done in Iraq instead of going in dick first.
My understanding has been for awhile now that we had the opportunity in 2003 to get a deal with Iran that would have dismantled much of the work they were doing, that they offered it to us in the wake of Iraq. But they would not go so far as regime change, so the White House ignored the offer and just pushed forward with the saber rattling.
24 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 11:40:00am |
re: #23 Targetpractice
My understanding has been for awhile now that we had the opportunity in 2003 to get a deal with Iran that would have dismantled much of the work they were doing, that they offered it to us in the wake of Iraq. But they would not go so far as regime change, so the White House ignored the offer and just pushed forward with the saber rattling.
IIRC Iran had another reformist as president during that time period. Ahmadinjad didn’t come in until later. But man just thinking about that, so frustrating and to think that the Republican nominee if elected would echo that same type of approach.
25 | #FergusonFireside Apr 2, 2015 11:40:04am |
Apparently unprecedented: “@zaidbenjamin: #Obama on Iranian state TV pic.twitter.com/qkpQDbnQnE”
— Philip Crowther (@PhilipinDC) April 2, 2015
26 | Kragar Apr 2, 2015 11:40:26am |
re: #21 Tigger2
I don’t think McCain is ever really happy about anything,
I always think of his guy when I see McCain.
27 | Thanos Apr 2, 2015 11:40:32am |
When talking about the Iranian program people forget their position. From their view they have the Sunni Bomb in Pakistan, the Hindu bomb in India, the Jewish bomb in Israel, so I understand why they are trying to get one.
On the other hand one more belligerent nation in that neighborhood with nukes would pretty much guarantee a nuclear war there.
28 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 11:40:44am |
Early bets on which Wingnut senator or governor likens this to Munich. I got good odds on Cruz, Rubio, or Bush.
29 | #FergusonFireside Apr 2, 2015 11:42:22am |
Make no mistake: This agreement will weaken Iran radicals, strengthen the moderates, and pave way for liberals. #IranTalks
— Negar نگار (@NegarMortazavi) April 2, 2015
30 | Charles Johnson Apr 2, 2015 11:42:36am |
Thinking back to similar speeches from W, it's really great to have a President who speaks to us like an adult.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) April 2, 2015
31 | Charles Johnson Apr 2, 2015 11:42:48am |
Obama: “If Congress kills this deal … then it's the United States that will be blamed for the collapse of diplomacy.”— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) April 2, 2015
32 | Dr. Matt Apr 2, 2015 11:43:03am |
re: #28 HappyWarrior
Early bets on which Wingnut senator or governor likens this to Munich. I got good odds on Cruz, Rubio, or Bush.
All three and I’ll raise you Tehran Tom and McGramps.
33 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 11:43:43am |
re: #30 Charles Johnson
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I’ve never regretted working against his re-election and for the man who is now the Secretary of State.
34 | wrenchwench Apr 2, 2015 11:44:22am |
If he could get Iran to keep John Kerry, the wingnuts would probably get behind the deal.
35 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 11:44:25am |
re: #29 #FergusonFireside
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Wingnuts freak out the thought of Iranian liberals running the country. Not sure if sarc.
37 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 11:45:20am |
38 | Thanos Apr 2, 2015 11:45:56am |
The most endearing thing about our current president is that when he says he’s going to do something he goes and does it.
39 | Kragar Apr 2, 2015 11:46:09am |
Bob Odenkirk and David Cross have signed a deal with Netflix to create a new sketch series: http://t.co/iUQgofKfrE pic.twitter.com/PEUSqkqnnd— New York Magazine (@NYMag) April 2, 2015
41 | Kragar Apr 2, 2015 11:50:01am |
Obama to #GOP : “Don't fuck this up like you do everything else.” #IranTalks I may have paraphrased it a tad.— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) April 2, 2015
42 | Charles Johnson Apr 2, 2015 11:50:15am |
It could still fall apart, though. Iran’s pretty notorious for stringing along negotiations, then backing out at the last minute.
43 | lawhawk Apr 2, 2015 11:50:22am |
re: #27 Thanos
I think the Israeli nuclear program isn’t even part of their calculus. First and foremost is that Pakistan is nuclear (and Pakistan is nuclear to offset the Indian nuclear program, all an outgrowth of the separation of Pakistan and India after end of British colonial rule). Pakistan has shown itself willing to proliferate nuclear tech to others, and there’s longstanding rumors that Pakistan would provide nukes to Saudi Arabia if Iran went nuclear.
The Sunni-Shi’ite schism is a significant part to the backdrop. Regional rivalries also come into play, and both Iran and Saudi Arabia (and Gulf States) want to assure dominance/prominence, so they’re all trying to undermine the other.
Israel, for its part, wants to survive without fear of being thrown into the sea (and has done its share of military actions to go after perceived threats - Osirak and Syrian nuke facility raids, to name but two). But it’s nuclear ambiguity and willingness to hit at others for their nuclear programs can also spur those other nations to develop their own programs to offset the Israeli advantage.
Double edged sword - the nukes provide a certain level of protection to Israel, but are destabilizing all the same since others want that capability to equalize the threat (assuring mutual destruction).
44 | Lidane Apr 2, 2015 11:51:24am |
Angie’s List CEO rejects Republican ‘fix’ to Indiana religious freedom bill as ‘insufficient’ http://t.co/5dMfYxbAVl— Raw Story (@RawStory) April 2, 2015
45 | Charles Johnson Apr 2, 2015 11:51:52am |
That's why Obama was insistent on using some pretty big IFs in his statement. He's well aware of Iran's history w/ negotiations.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) April 2, 2015
46 | wrenchwench Apr 2, 2015 11:54:32am |
re: #42 Charles Johnson
It could still fall apart, though. Iran’s pretty notorious for stringing along negotiations, then backing out at the last minute.
I liked the frequent inclusion of the phrase, ‘If fully implemented.’
49 | GlutenFreeJesus Apr 2, 2015 11:56:38am |
re: #38 Thanos
Sadly, that was the worst thing about our last President.
50 | Great White Snark Apr 2, 2015 11:57:37am |
re: #42 Charles Johnson
It could still fall apart, though. Iran’s pretty notorious for stringing along negotiations, then backing out at the last minute.
This really needs to go better than North Korea at the bottom line. Of course NK enjoys the full weight of China as their ultimate defender. Iran has no such. So hopefully…. Sanctions will get it done.
51 | wrenchwench Apr 2, 2015 11:57:55am |
A moment of silence. Not everyone is celebrating the #IranDeal. via @WashingtonPoint pic.twitter.com/bykWm1Ko65— Hend (@LibyaLiberty) April 2, 2015
52 | Kragar Apr 2, 2015 12:00:05pm |
53 | Dr. Matt Apr 2, 2015 12:04:08pm |
Has @chuckcjohnson taken credit yet for the #Iran nuclear deal?— Dr. Matt (@DrMatthew) April 2, 2015
54 | Lidane Apr 2, 2015 12:05:19pm |
re: #52 Kragar
You’ve got to hope they’re getting the old crew back together.
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For a Netflix run? I would hope so, yeah. It would be awesome.
55 | Justanotherhuman Apr 2, 2015 12:06:03pm |
US Secretary of State Kerry says parameters of Iran deal will make certain all pathways to make nuclear weapon have been cut off - @Reuters
end of alert
56 | Iwouldprefernotto Apr 2, 2015 12:06:56pm |
re: #53 Dr. Matt
Has @chuckcjohnson taken credit yet for the #Iran nuclear deal?
I’m sure the Republicans will start claiming that if not for their tough war talk the Iranians would never have agreed to anything.
57 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 12:07:00pm |
58 | Justanotherhuman Apr 2, 2015 12:07:46pm |
US Secretary of State Kerry says there will be ‘no sunset’ to final Iran deal
end of alert
US Secretary of State Kerry says political understanding reached in Iran talks is ‘solid foundation’ for the ‘good deal we are seeking’
end of alert
The adults have spoken.
The Rs just need to SD&SU.
59 | Dr Lizardo Apr 2, 2015 12:08:29pm |
Right now, wingnuts are all like:
and President Obama is all like:
60 | Targetpractice Apr 2, 2015 12:08:32pm |
re: #58 Justanotherhuman
US Secretary of State Kerry says there will be ‘no sunset’ to final Iran deal
end of alertUS Secretary of State Kerry says political understanding reached in Iran talks is ‘solid foundation’ for the ‘good deal we are seeking’
end of alertThe adults have spoken.
The Rs just need to SD&SU.
“No sunset”? So despite Bibi’s warning, this deal won’t expire in 10 years?
Good times.
61 | lawhawk Apr 2, 2015 12:09:06pm |
#kenya university attack death toll up to 147— Arwa Damon (@arwaCNN) April 2, 2015
Damn…
62 | Blind Frog Belly White Apr 2, 2015 12:09:44pm |
re: #60 Targetpractice
“No sunset”? So despite Bibi’s warning, this deal won’t expire in 10 years?
Good times.
What? You mean Bibi said something that was bullshit? Imagine my surprise.
63 | Charles Johnson Apr 2, 2015 12:10:29pm |
If the Pledge of Allegiance told the truth: pic.twitter.com/Iy5zoyMOls— Neil deGrasse Tyson (@neiltyson) April 2, 2015
64 | Blind Frog Belly White Apr 2, 2015 12:11:45pm |
65 | Varek Raith Apr 2, 2015 12:12:41pm |
Japan’s defense minister insists aliens have never tried to invade from space
There are no Zentradi mechs in Tokyo.
- Bob
66 | Dr Lizardo Apr 2, 2015 12:12:45pm |
67 | lawhawk Apr 2, 2015 12:12:50pm |
re: #59 Dr Lizardo
Representative sample:
2nd Nobel Peace Prize! RT @erinhaust Shorter Obama: “I just made a deal that is unprecedented, historic, and not yet a done deal.”— Michelle Malkin (@michellemalkin) April 2, 2015
Yeah, a framework deal that if everyone approves would cut all pathways to a nuclear weapon is a bad deal?
It’s almost like these folks aren’t reading. There’s lots of equivocation on the deal, and it’s success, particularly knowing that Iran has played games before (as have other countries like Iraq and North Korea when under scrutiny from IAEA), depends on all the parties cooperating.
If Iran doesn’t cooperate, then we’re still in the same position if no deal were in place.
That last big is ignored by the right wingers.
Iran had a nuclear breakout during Bush’s term, but the breakout was tempered by fact that they didn’t have everything working right and stuxnet set them back some (during Obama’s term).
68 | Lidane Apr 2, 2015 12:13:50pm |
re: #2 Dr. Matt
Iran could become a Christian Democracy and the wingnuts would still find a way to smear Teh Blah man in the Whitehouse.
69 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 12:14:03pm |
re: #67 lawhawk
Representative sample:
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Yeah, a framework deal that if everyone approves would cut all pathways to a nuclear weapon is a bad deal?
It’s almost like these folks aren’t reading. There’s lots of equivocation on the deal, and it’s success, particularly knowing that Iran has played games before (as have other countries like Iraq and North Korea when under scrutiny from IAEA), depends on all the parties cooperating.
If Iran doesn’t cooperate, then we’re still in the same position if no deal were in place.
That last big is ignored by the right wingers.
Iran had a nuclear breakout during Bush’s term, but the breakout was tempered by fact that they didn’t have everything working right and stuxnet set them back some (during Obama’s term).
Why don’t Michelle and her warmongreling friends shut the fuck up and go to war already if they’re so eager for ti?
70 | Kragar Apr 2, 2015 12:14:56pm |
re: #65 Varek Raith
Japan’s defense minister insists aliens have never tried to invade from space
There are no Zentradi mechs in Tokyo.
- Bob
You will note he says nothing about territorial waters or subterranean regions of Japan being subject to alien incursions.
71 | wrenchwench Apr 2, 2015 12:18:07pm |
re: #67 lawhawk
Representative sample:
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Yeah, a framework deal that if everyone approves would cut all pathways to a nuclear weapon is a bad deal?
It’s almost like these folks aren’t reading. There’s lots of equivocation on the deal, and it’s success, particularly knowing that Iran has played games before (as have other countries like Iraq and North Korea when under scrutiny from IAEA), depends on all the parties cooperating.
If Iran doesn’t cooperate, then we’re still in the same position if no deal were in place.
That last big is ignored by the right wingers.
Iran had a nuclear breakout during Bush’s term, but the breakout was tempered by fact that they didn’t have everything working right and stuxnet set them back some (during Obama’s term).
Michell Malkin: Still sore about Obama’s first Nobel Peace Prize.
72 | Kragar Apr 2, 2015 12:18:52pm |
Guesses in? Excited to announce that @GGreenwald will be my guest tomorrow at 9amET. http://t.co/Bn8v3oAw3x http://t.co/Ym5b4biP0T— Glenn Beck (@glennbeck) April 2, 2015
73 | Blind Frog Belly White Apr 2, 2015 12:19:15pm |
re: #69 HappyWarrior
Why don’t Michelle and her warmongreling friends shut the fuck up and go to war already if they’re so eager for ti?
I imagine that part of their thinking is that if Obama DOES go ahead and bomb Iran, and it goes as badly as everyone with a working brain thinks it might, they’ll be able to blame him for that.
PLUS, swarthy foreigners with competing religious beliefs would die, possibly in large numbers, so for them it’s a twofer.
74 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 12:19:36pm |
75 | Dr Lizardo Apr 2, 2015 12:19:53pm |
re: #69 HappyWarrior
Why don’t Michelle and her warmongreling friends shut the fuck up and go to war already if they’re so eager for ti?
Because they’re essentially cowards. For all their bravado, the overwhelming majority of them would soil themselves instantly if they found themselves in an actual combat situation.
The 101st Chairborne, as it were.
76 | lawhawk Apr 2, 2015 12:20:18pm |
re: #71 wrenchwench
I’m actually sore about the 1st one. He hadn’t done anything sufficient to garner it.
But then again, I don’t put much stock into the Nobel Peace prize either. Not when it is as much a popularity contest as it is for legitimacy acts in furtherance of peace.
It’s not like a Nobel for medicine, chemistry, or physics - where the winner is recognized for discrete advancements in scientific knowledge. The peace prize is far more like the literature prize, where it is far more subjective.
77 | Charles Johnson Apr 2, 2015 12:20:20pm |
Wow. RT @glennbeck: Excited to announce that @GGreenwald will be my guest tomorrow at 9amET. http://t.co/xJ31Pxp7ih http://t.co/N5G6mgnp44— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) April 2, 2015
78 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 12:20:36pm |
re: #73 Blind Frog Belly White
I imagine that part of their thinking is that if Obama DOES go ahead and bomb Iran, and it goes as badly as everyone with a working brain thinks it might, they’ll be able to blame him for that.
PLUS, swarthy foreigners with competing religious beliefs would die, possibly in large numbers, so for them it’s a twofer.
Probably. We are talking about a woman who first came to prominence over defending the internment of Japanese Americans during WWII. The thing you know a Republican administration actually apologized for, it was that bad and shameful.
80 | Targetpractice Apr 2, 2015 12:20:48pm |
re: #70 Kragar
You will note he says nothing about territorial waters or subterranean regions of Japan being subject to alien incursions.
Would giant mutant reptiles qualify as “alien”?
81 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 12:20:55pm |
re: #75 Dr Lizardo
Because they’re essentially cowards. For all their bravado, the overwhelming majority of them would soil themselves instantly if they found themselves in an actual combat situation.
The 101st Chairborne, as it were.
The Shrieking Eagles.
82 | Kragar Apr 2, 2015 12:21:00pm |
re: #74 HappyWarrior
Oh boy Glenn x2. Too much Glenn for one radio to handle.
All God needs is one little meteor strike and he’ll have earned himself a convert.
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83 | Kragar Apr 2, 2015 12:21:57pm |
re: #80 Targetpractice
Would giant mutant reptiles qualify as “alien”?
That would depend on the original source of their DNA.
84 | Blind Frog Belly White Apr 2, 2015 12:22:39pm |
re: #78 HappyWarrior
Probably. We are talking about a woman who first came to prominence over defending the internment of Japanese Americans during WWII. The thing you know a Republican administration actually apologized for, it was that bad and shameful.
And that was done largely to justify internment camps for Muslims, IIRC.
85 | Blind Frog Belly White Apr 2, 2015 12:23:24pm |
re: #83 Kragar
That would depend on the original source of their DNA.
I figure if they use DNA, they’re not aliens.
86 | Dr Lizardo Apr 2, 2015 12:23:31pm |
re: #74 HappyWarrior
Oh boy Glenn x2. Too much Glenn for one radio to handle.
There goes the neighborhood.
87 | Tigger2 Apr 2, 2015 12:23:49pm |
88 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 12:23:55pm |
re: #84 Blind Frog Belly White
And that was done largely to justify internment camps for Muslims, IIRC.
I think you’re right. It wasn’t long after 9/11. I had never heard of her before. And then she has the nerve to cry racism when she’s criticized by the left for you know being a bigot.
89 | Blind Frog Belly White Apr 2, 2015 12:24:53pm |
re: #88 HappyWarrior
I think you’re right. It wasn’t long after 9/11. I had never heard of her before. And then she has the nerve to cry racism when she’s criticized by the left for you know being a bigot.
She can’t be a bigot! Her husband has an Asian wife!
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90 | Dr Lizardo Apr 2, 2015 12:25:36pm |
Telfie. RT @vijayprashad: Iranian journalist @pedi posts selfie of himself with Obama on Iranian TV. pic.twitter.com/AWFvatpHma
— Hend (@LibyaLiberty) April 2, 2015
91 | justaminute Apr 2, 2015 12:26:27pm |
The Iranian people are really happy and relieved that this is happening.They were mumbling that the Ayatollah issued a fatwa against a nuclear bomb yet would let them suffer under sanctions by not being willing to prove it.
Yet there is another contingent of Iranians, not living in Iran, who were hoping for increased sanctions that might spur unrest and overthrow the government. Of course, they don’t live in Iran and wouldn’t have to suffer.
One other group that says this just underlines the hypocracy of the West and Israel sitting on their stockpiles of nuclear arms.
We hear about the Revolutionary guards and the Beseji fighting ISIS in Iraq but there is not one word of ISIS or the Iranian government doing anything in the Iranian press. No mention of ISIS ever. We think it is curious and have no explanation. Maybe the government thinks that if the public knew the RG were involved, the dormant opposition would arise. But really we just don’t see that happening again, but it is curious.
92 | Lidane Apr 2, 2015 12:27:25pm |
Bill O’Reilly expresses support for Iran deal: ‘You give it a shot’ http://t.co/XDiUL3ftUv pic.twitter.com/Mn2v22HvPe— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) April 2, 2015
93 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 12:27:30pm |
re: #89 Blind Frog Belly White
She can’t be a bigot! Her husband has an Asian wife!
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ZOMG HER HUSBAND IS CCJ!
94 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 12:28:08pm |
re: #92 Lidane
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Still an asshole but still not the worst Fox has to offer. Can’t wait to see what Hannity says. to “balance” Bill.
95 | wrenchwench Apr 2, 2015 12:28:27pm |
re: #91 justaminute
The Iranian people are really happy and relieved that this is happening.They were mumbling that the Ayatollah issued a fatwa against a nuclear bomb yet would let them suffer under sanctions by not being willing to prove it.
Yet there is another contingent of Iranians, not living in Iran, who were hoping for increased sanctions that might spur unrest and overthrow the government. Of course, they don’t live in Iran and wouldn’t have to suffer.
One other group that says this just underlines the hypocracy of the West and Israel sitting on their stockpiles of nuclear arms.
We hear about the Revolutionary guards and the Beseji fighting ISIS in Iraq but there is not one word of ISIS or the Iranian government doing anything in the Iranian press. No mention of ISIS ever. We think it is curious and have no explanation. Maybe the government thinks that if the public knew the RG were involved, the dormant opposition would arise. But really we just don’t see that happening again, but it is curious.
Friend of mine in #Iran pinching #Obama's cheek out of sheer joy #IranTalks pic.twitter.com/M68J6yKgQt— Holly Dagres (@hdagres) April 2, 2015
96 | Varek Raith Apr 2, 2015 12:28:34pm |
97 | WhatEVs Apr 2, 2015 12:28:41pm |
re: #92 Lidane
@thinkprogress Breaking: #Foxnews reporting Bill O'Reilly saves injured camera man during #Iran nuclear talks— Liquid_atheist (@Liquid_atheist) April 2, 2015
98 | Slap Apr 2, 2015 12:30:45pm |
re: #81 HappyWarrior
The Shrieking
EaglesGoats.
Eagles are far too noble a creature for the chairborne.
99 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 12:30:59pm |
re: #96 Varek Raith
I, uh, okay.
Not expecting that.
O’Reilly’s more of a dick than ODS sufferer. Not a defense of him but I am not completely surprised.
100 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 12:31:32pm |
re: #98 Slap
Eagles are far too noble a creature for the chairborne.
I don’t disagree but I was going along with the original 101st’s nickname- the Screaming Eagles.
101 | Varek Raith Apr 2, 2015 12:31:41pm |
102 | Mike Lamb Apr 2, 2015 12:31:50pm |
Obama on Iranian TV is some nice international trolling…
103 | wrenchwench Apr 2, 2015 12:33:35pm |
Ah, spring weather…
ABQ sunport just hit single digit humidity! #nmwx— NWS Albuquerque (@NWSAlbuquerque) April 2, 2015
104 | Eclectic Cyborg Apr 2, 2015 12:34:27pm |
Can we just call GG a wingnut already and be done with it?
105 | Flying Squirrel Girl Apr 2, 2015 12:37:30pm |
re: #103 wrenchwench
…while here in the coastal bend region of Texas we almost always begin the day at 100% humidity…
106 | Blind Frog Belly White Apr 2, 2015 12:37:49pm |
re: #94 HappyWarrior
Still an asshole but still not the worst Fox has to offer. Can’t wait to see what Hannity says. to “balance” Bill.
Talk about faint praise!
108 | Lidane Apr 2, 2015 12:38:07pm |
Greenwald’s new buddy:
Glenn Beck says gay activists are modern-day Nazis leading an Inquisition that will result in a Christian holocaust: http://t.co/VGLkdP6RfX— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) April 2, 2015
109 | Blind Frog Belly White Apr 2, 2015 12:41:14pm |
re: #101 Varek Raith
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Goats are just too weird. And I say that as a man who spent a week with two dozen goats in his yard!
110 | Blind Frog Belly White Apr 2, 2015 12:42:13pm |
re: #108 Lidane
Greenwald’s new buddy:
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Because not being allowed to discriminate is JUST LIKE being tortured and killed.
111 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 12:43:41pm |
re: #108 Lidane
Greenwald’s new buddy:
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These all sound like things that your ideological ancestors have done before Glenn.
112 | wrenchwench Apr 2, 2015 12:43:45pm |
One of my heroines of Twitter:
AZ is super interesting, @stephdom8626: -On 1 hand, they req FDA-approved use of medication -Then pass this law—>has no science behind it— Leah Torres, MD (@LeahNTorres) April 2, 2015
113 | Kragar Apr 2, 2015 12:45:41pm |
“The role of fact checker is just the latest scam from the left” - conservatism in one sentence http://t.co/fV8aS1gz9C— Oliver Willis (@owillis) April 2, 2015
114 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 12:46:46pm |
I think it’s a rule if you’re a conservative Christian that you have to see yourself forever as the victim.
115 | wrenchwench Apr 2, 2015 12:49:22pm |
re: #112 wrenchwench
One of my heroines of Twitter:
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AZ has effectively proven to the nation: they're not interested in repro health care safety… They're interested in reproductive control.— Leah Torres, MD (@LeahNTorres) April 2, 2015
116 | gwangung Apr 2, 2015 12:50:14pm |
re: #88 HappyWarrior
I think you’re right. It wasn’t long after 9/11. I had never heard of her before. And then she has the nerve to cry racism when she’s criticized by the left for you know being a bigot.
Lotta nerve, given a lot of her critics are East Asian and Filipino Americans.
117 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 12:50:56pm |
re: #116 gwangung
Lotta nerve, given a lot of her critics are East Asian and Filipino Americans.
No one said she had self-awareness.
119 | gwangung Apr 2, 2015 12:53:57pm |
re: #117 HappyWarrior
No one said she had self-awareness.
Ran into her in the late 90s at an Asian American professional event. To say that the reception she got was cool was an understatement.
She damn well has awareness. She’s just a blatant hypocrite.
120 | The Week Of No Pie Apr 2, 2015 12:54:03pm |
.@jakaroo65 How is “forcing” a business to accept money by doing what they are in business for, “slavery”?— The Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) April 2, 2015
121 | Lidane Apr 2, 2015 12:57:04pm |
re: #120 The Mother Of All Pies
FORCING A BAKER TO BAKE A CAKE = SLAVERY!
FORCING A FLORIST TO ARRANGE FLOWERS = SLAVERY!
I think my favorite RWNJ bullshit about all this was the wannabe intellectual who tried to tell me that bakers are artists and that trying to get them to serve gays was somehow a violation of their free speech rights. That was a special bit of stupid.
122 | Backwoods_Sleuth Apr 2, 2015 12:57:52pm |
Well, Dick Cheney's reaction was predictable. #IranTalks #obama #israel #gop #Netanyahu #UniteBlue pic.twitter.com/Kw1zmMeZWW— New Progressive Era (@Hillary_45) April 2, 2015
123 | lawhawk Apr 2, 2015 12:58:22pm |
re: #120 The Mother Of All Pies
The bakery's purpose is to bake cakes/pastries/cookies. A kosher deli's purpose is to provide kosher food - not to provide nonkosher food— lawhawk (@lawhawk) April 2, 2015
124 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 12:58:26pm |
re: #119 gwangung
Ran into her in the late 90s at an Asian American professional event. To say that the reception she got was cool was an understatement.
She damn well has awareness. She’s just a blatant hypocrite.
Damn. That had to be a weird encounter.
125 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 12:59:20pm |
re: #120 The Mother Of All Pies
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Slavery you use that word conservative, I do not think you know what it means.
126 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 1:00:03pm |
re: #123 lawhawk
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Precisely but will the morons on Twitter use their brains to figure that out? Of course not because they’re obsessed with the idea that they’re persecuted wittle victims.
127 | Kragar Apr 2, 2015 1:00:29pm |
@EricReyes4us @jakaroo65 @viciousbabushka which are based on legal reasons to refuse service, not bigotry— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) April 2, 2015
128 | Dr Lizardo Apr 2, 2015 1:01:37pm |
129 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 1:02:06pm |
Waaaaaaaaaah I’m a conservative and it’s not fair that the government won’t let me engage in discrimination.
130 | Backwoods_Sleuth Apr 2, 2015 1:03:27pm |
Jake Tapper Pushes AR Lawmaker To Explain How Anti-Gay Law Is Not Discriminatory http://t.co/I45a5bt1Vb pic.twitter.com/LzkPwHXqOe— Crooks and Liars (@crooksandliars) April 2, 2015
131 | wrenchwench Apr 2, 2015 1:03:39pm |
re: #128 Dr Lizardo
Gotta watch out for them goats. Especially the little ones.
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I enjoyed that almost as much as she did!
132 | Kragar Apr 2, 2015 1:03:47pm |
See for instance https://t.co/kqUpmJuZN4— Brian Beutler (@brianbeutler) April 2, 2015
133 | Varek Raith Apr 2, 2015 1:05:49pm |
re: #132 Kragar
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I don’t suppose asking, “How so?” would illicit an intelligent response?
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135 | Backwoods_Sleuth Apr 2, 2015 1:06:55pm |
re: #133 Varek Raith
I don’t suppose asking, “How so?” would illicit an intelligent response?
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I’m sure D_F can rationalize it for us.
136 | wrenchwench Apr 2, 2015 1:08:10pm |
Colors that say, ‘Don’t bite me!’
#frogOTD S. salamandra (subspecies giglioli), lots of taxonomic issues in this beautiful species complex @AmphibiaWeb pic.twitter.com/3AP1EsOf6Q— Phil Bishop (@AmphibianPhil) April 2, 2015
137 | Blind Frog Belly White Apr 2, 2015 1:08:19pm |
re: #123 lawhawk
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Yeah, I keep seeing that shit, including when my wingnut cousin liked a Cal Thomas post on Facebook.
Hey, would it be discrimination if I walked into a kosher deli, and asked for a wedding cake, and they wouldn’t make it for me?
138 | Varek Raith Apr 2, 2015 1:08:51pm |
IT’S ABOUT STATES RIGHT!1!!ty
Rights to do what?
BLAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH
139 | lawhawk Apr 2, 2015 1:09:22pm |
re: #137 Blind Frog Belly White
Yeah, I keep seeing that shit, including when my wingnut cousin liked a Cal Thomas post on Facebook.
Hey, would it be discrimination if I walked into a kosher deli, and asked for a wedding cake, and they wouldn’t make it for me?
I walked into my local laundromat and demanded a kosher pastrami on rye, and was refused. DISCRIMINATION!!! /
140 | jaunte Apr 2, 2015 1:10:20pm |
re: #123 lawhawk
Someone on the Diane Rehm show this morning
thedianerehmshow.org
tried to use that deli analogy. Probably Edward Whelan (contributor to National Review Online Bench Memos blog), though I didn’t catch the name. He probably knows the logic is flawed, but he tried it anyway.
141 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 1:10:29pm |
re: #137 Blind Frog Belly White
Yeah, I keep seeing that shit, including when my wingnut cousin liked a Cal Thomas post on Facebook.
Hey, would it be discrimination if I walked into a kosher deli, and asked for a wedding cake, and they wouldn’t make it for me?
It’s such a stupid example. Really, I almost want to say gay entrepreneurs in Indiana discriminate against conservative Christians just to show these people how fucked up they’re being.
142 | WhatEVs Apr 2, 2015 1:10:45pm |
re: #132 Kragar
.@SenatorKirk says of the #IranDeal: “Neville Chamberlain got a better deal from Adolf Hitler.”— Niels Lesniewski (@nielslesniewski) April 2, 2015
Mark Kirk…supposed moderate Republican.
143 | Backwoods_Sleuth Apr 2, 2015 1:11:47pm |
BREAKING: #Israel dismisses celebrations of #Iran nuclear framework deal as “detached from wretched reality”— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) April 2, 2015
144 | Blind Frog Belly White Apr 2, 2015 1:12:28pm |
I gotta tell you, the owners of that Pizza place in Indiana did the whole world a service, cutting right through the bullshit about how the law doesn’t allow businesses to discriminate, and promising to do exactly that.
145 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 1:12:34pm |
re: #142 WhatEVs
Mark Kirk…supposed moderate Republican.
Damn I didn’t have Kirk in my oddsmakers. Really how fucking predictable are you Kirk? Really any time someone makes a deal with a hostile power, you fucking Republicans have to bring up Munich. Did the Democrats bring up Munich when Ronnie was dealing with Gorbachev? Or do you use that fucked analogy only for when President Obama makes deals.
146 | WhatEVs Apr 2, 2015 1:12:50pm |
re: #141 HappyWarrior
It’s such a stupid example. Really, I almost want to say gay entrepreneurs in Indiana discriminate against conservative Christians just to show these people how fucked up they’re being.
Could you imagine the outcry, uproar and victimization that would explode throughout the Christian Injustice Warriors?
147 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 1:12:53pm |
148 | Blind Frog Belly White Apr 2, 2015 1:13:30pm |
re: #142 WhatEVs
Mark Kirk…supposed moderate Republican.
You just KNOW he was gonna say that, no matter what.
149 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 1:13:34pm |
re: #146 WhatEVs
Could you imagine the outcry, uproar and victimization that would explode throughout the Christian Injustice Warriors?
They already think they have it as bad as Jews under Hitler so I can’t honestly. I can’t imagine what would happen if a gay owned business actually did discriminate against them.
150 | b_sharp Apr 2, 2015 1:13:53pm |
re: #139 lawhawk
I walked into my local laundromat and demanded a kosher pastrami on rye, and was refused. DISCRIMINATION!!! /
I asked my baker for a 1/2” nickle plated grade 5 hex nut.
She refused to even acknowledge my question.
151 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 1:14:25pm |
re: #148 Blind Frog Belly White
You just KNOW he was gonna say that, no matter what.
He’s a hack. He’ll act moderate on social issues because he knows you can’t be a so-con idiot and win in Illinois but then he’ll do shit like this because the Republican party has never met an armed conflict they haven’t liked or a chance to get a pathetic dig on President Obama.
152 | Blind Frog Belly White Apr 2, 2015 1:15:37pm |
re: #139 lawhawk
I walked into my local laundromat and demanded a kosher pastrami on rye, and was refused. DISCRIMINATION!!! /
Cal Thomas started an article with:
“If I visit a kosher restaurant and order a pork chop, am I being discriminated against when the waiter says they don’t serve pork?”
If I walked into a kosher deli, and order an oil filter, am I being discriminated against if the waiter says they don’t serve car parts?
153 | The Week Of No Pie Apr 2, 2015 1:16:33pm |
re: #152 Blind Frog Belly White
Cal Thomas started an article with:
“If I visit a kosher restaurant and order a pork chop, am I being discriminated against when the waiter says they don’t serve pork?”
Only if he is a pork chop.
154 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 1:16:59pm |
Listen as an American with relatives that were directly impacted by the Munich Agreement, it really pisses me off that every time this sort of thing happens the Republicans bring up Munich and Neville Chamberlain as if Chamberlain was just patting Hitler on the back and saying “Go ahead and take over Czechoslovakia,dear old boy, we don’t care.” Was Munich a mistake? Certainly. Are a lot of people’s perceptions of it overblown because of hindsight bias and ignoring that our own country wouldn’t have gone to war with Nazi Germany if Hitler hadn’t declared war on us? Absolutely.
155 | Maddies Mom Apr 2, 2015 1:17:06pm |
re: #145 HappyWarrior
Damn I didn’t have Kirk in my oddsmakers. Really how fucking predictable are you Kirk? Really any time someone makes a deal with a hostile power, you fucking Republicans have to bring up Munich. Did the Democrats bring up Munich when Ronnie was dealing with Gorbachev? Or do you use that fucked analogy only for when President Obama makes deals.
LORD I can’t wait to vote for Tammy Duckworth! Dems ran a terrible candidate in ‘08 and Kirk barely won. He obviously does a lot around the state w/veteran’s issues, but T.Duck cancels that out!!!!!!!
156 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 1:18:31pm |
re: #152 Blind Frog Belly White
Cal Thomas started an article with:
“If I visit a kosher restaurant and order a pork chop, am I being discriminated against when the waiter says they don’t serve pork?”
If I walked into a kosher deli, and order an oil filter, am I being discriminated against if the waiter says they don’t serve car parts?
What moronic conservatives like Cal don’t want to get at is teh fact that the cake the gay couples are asking for is the same as the ones they’re baking the straight couples. It’s more like if I go into a koshe restaurant and ask for a kosher meal and the waiter asks me if I’m Jewish and I reply no, he refuses to serve me and tells me I’m a heathen.
157 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 1:19:09pm |
re: #155 Maddies Mom
LORD I can’t wait to vote for Tammy Duckworth! Dems ran a terrible candidate in ‘08 and Kirk barely won. He obviously does a lot around the state w/veteran’s issues, but T.Duck cancels that out!!!!!!!
2010 and it’s going to be a presidential year too. Kirk’s in trouble I think.
158 | dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Apr 2, 2015 1:22:18pm |
re: #114 HappyWarrior
I think it’s a rule if you’re a conservative Christian that you have to see yourself forever as the victim.
these ‘persecutions’ they suffer definitely fall under the “1st World Problems” meme
159 | danarchy Apr 2, 2015 1:23:27pm |
re: #140 jaunte
Someone on the Diane Rehm show this morning
thedianerehmshow.org
tried to use that deli analogy. Probably Edward Whelan (contributor to National Review Online Bench Memos blog), though I didn’t catch the name. He probably knows the logic is flawed, but he tried it anyway.
Almost completely off topic, but how on earth does Diane Rehm have a radio show. She has possibly the worst radio voice in the history of ever.
160 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 1:23:30pm |
re: #158 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
these ‘persecutions’ they suffer definitely fall under the “1st World Problems” meme
Really if all the Christians who have actually have been persecuted throughout history could see this whinefest.
161 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 1:29:39pm |
I admit. I didn’t learn much in CCD but I did learn that religion shouldn’t be used as an excuse to be an asshole to someone just because they’re different.
162 | wrenchwench Apr 2, 2015 1:29:43pm |
re: #159 danarchy
Almost completely off topic, but how on earth does Diane Rehm have a radio show. She has possibly the worst radio voice in the history of ever.
She wore out her voice putting on a damn fine show. Gives it breaks once in a while for treatment.
163 | Slap Apr 2, 2015 1:29:50pm |
re: #156 HappyWarrior
Excellent example. Nicely put.
And, as an aside, Cal Thomas is an unhinged loony. And vile as they get. IMHO.
164 | ObserverArt Apr 2, 2015 1:29:54pm |
re: #150 b_sharp
I asked my baker for a 1/2” nickle plated grade 5 hex nut.
She refused to even acknowledge my question.
She probably saw you as the tool you are.
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165 | dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Apr 2, 2015 1:36:28pm |
re: #150 b_sharp
I asked my baker for a 1/2” nickle plated grade 5 hex nut.
im not sure why everything sounds like a blues lyric to me today…
166 | EPR-radar Apr 2, 2015 1:40:32pm |
re: #142 WhatEVs
Mark Kirk…supposed moderate Republican.
There is no such thing as a moderate Republican. They are pretty much all extremists of one kind or the other, with variations among GOPers being mainly matters of style instead of substance.
167 | wrenchwench Apr 2, 2015 1:41:42pm |
re: #150 b_sharp
I asked my baker for a 1/2” nickle plated grade 5 hex nut.
She refused to even acknowledge my question.
@DoubleDumas @AmphibiaWeb not quite a crocoduck, here is a frogoduck (Triprion petasatus; Casque-headed Tree Frog) pic.twitter.com/yrHWHPSUnv— Phil Bishop (@AmphibianPhil) April 2, 2015
168 | HappyWarrior Apr 2, 2015 1:47:12pm |
re: #163 Slap
Excellent example. Nicely put.
And, as an aside, Cal Thomas is an unhinged loony. And vile as they get. IMHO.
Thank you. Really, it’s not as if the gay couples are asking the bakers, florists, or whatever to provide an ingredient they don’t use. So stupid but that’s the right wing punditry for ya.
169 | makeitstop Apr 2, 2015 1:50:04pm |
170 | retired cynic Apr 2, 2015 1:56:49pm |
re: #159 danarchy
Almost completely off topic, but how on earth does Diane Rehm have a radio show. She has possibly the worst radio voice in the history of ever.
Read about her on wikipedia or something. She is truly inspiring.
171 | dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸ Apr 2, 2015 2:07:55pm |
re: #152 Blind Frog Belly White
Cal Thomas started an article with:
“If I visit a kosher restaurant and order a pork chop, am I being discriminated against when the waiter says they don’t serve pork?”
every single person in that restaurant will get exactly the same service when they ask for a pork chop