The Brainwashing of America

You can’t fix stupid - but can you counter brainwashing?
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What is brainwashing? Margaret Singer defined it as “providing members with information about the cult and showing them how their own decision-making power had been taken away from them.”

Have you watched a friend or loved one go down the rabbit hole of right-wing delusion, paranoia and hatred? Likely, you have. So has this filmmaker:

As filmmaker, Jen Senko, tries to understand the transformation of her father from a non political, life-long Democrat to an angry, Right-Wing fanatic, she uncovers the forces behind the media that changed him completely: a plan by Roger Ailes under Nixon for a media takeover by the GOP, The Powell Memo urging business leaders to influence institutions of public opinion, especially the universities, the media and the courts, and under Reagan, the dismantling of the Fairness Doctrine.

As her journey continues, we discover that her father is part of a much broader demographic, and that the story is one that affects us all.

This documentary will shine a light on how it happened (and is still happening) and lead to questions about who owns the airwaves, what rights we have as listeners/watchers and what responsibility does our government have to keep the airwaves truly fair, accurate and accountable to the truth.

Here’s the trailer.

Youtube Video

The right-wing propaganda machine is like a cult. The faithful take it as gospel. If you try to inject reality - or any differing opinions - you are discounted as being blind, stupid or, ultimately, a DemonRAT Libtard (or whatever witticism is currently en vogue).

Whether someone is a Democrat or Republican, the problem with this cultist outlook is the broken government we now see. Government has always depended upon collaboration and compromise. Differing opinions is what made the country stronger, laws better and a functioning society - a society for all Americans. (This doesn’t mean that segments of society weren’t left out in the cold, but the majority of Americans were considered when laws were enacted.) Now, compromise is considered capitulation and a winner-takes-all mentality; politics-above-country is the only thing that matters.

When you have a segment of elected officials…

You wind up with an entire propaganda machine to support every statement, you’ve created an entire segment of society who is brainwashed into seeing government as the problem and those with differing opinions as traitors who should be exterminated.

This is especially prominent in small towns across America where industry that once supported those towns leave, creating limited opportunities for those towns that once thrived - and blaming it on liberal policies, Democrats, etc., instead of an ever-changing global environment of employers and workforce, with daily, no hourly, reinforcement of hate against the change that is inevitable, creating entire segments of society who are angry, fearful, and resentful. It’s not a stretch to see that turn to violence as we have many times.

There’s nothing wrong with being left or right. The problem comes in when you are militantly either…when you see the other as, well, Other. When you look at friends or family members as traitors to your own ideology. When you dehumanize based on your bastardization of politics…based on your own brainwashing.

But…what to do? Can these friends and family members be helped after 20 plus years of constantly reinforced negatively? Do these interventions work?

Rick Alan Ross, who has been involved in deprogramming since 1982 (and someone whose theories and methods are not without controversy), and offers interventions provides the following (briefly noted below, see the above link for more):

Identify family members to be involved with the intervention.

The basic role of each family member and friend can best be summarized as largely focused upon two primary objectives.

These objectives are:

Essentially anchor the cult involved individual. That is, to keep them from leaving, by helping to create an atmosphere of support premised upon historical trust and understanding. Simply put, the cult member will not stay involved in the intervention process for my sake, as I am a total stranger. But the cult member will stay out of respect for their family, friends and others concerned. This is vitally important because any intervention done with an adult is on a voluntary basis and therefore dependent upon their consent and ongoing cooperation. In the preparation process possible scenarios and/or potential situations are discussed. For example, the individual may become angry, get up and begin to leave. How should that be handled? Who would be most effective in persuading him or her not to leave and to stay?

The family and friends also are there to provide first-hand eyewitness testimony. That is, what have they seen and observed regarding the cult-involved person’s recent behavior, which has caused them concern? At various times during an intervention a cult member may engage in denial. Since I have not directly witnessed what has occurred, I rely upon the family and friends present to share their experience to counteract any effort to obscure or deny the historical facts surrounding the situation.

The intervention itself includes:

There are four basic blocks or areas of discussion essential for the completion of an effective and potentially successful intervention.

These blocks of discussion preferably can be discussed in the order that follows, but this sequence may be rearranged during the intervention, due to the interest and focus of the cult-involved individual.

The four blocks of discussion are:

1. What is the definition of a destructive cult?
2. How does the process of coercive persuasion or thought reform really work?
3. What is the history of the group and/or leader that has drawn concern?
4. What are the family’s concerns?

The biggest problem I see with any intervention is that the stimuli of continuing brainwashing remains. Fox News, right-wing hate radio, and elected officials who seem hell-bent on destroying our political system are not going away.

Worse yet, I think that many of our elected officials are, themselves, brainwashed and some (but by all means not all) of these elected officials are true believers themselves.

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156 comments

1
PhillyPretzel  Jan 4, 2016 • 9:32:34am

Thank you.

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dharmamark  Jan 4, 2016 • 9:34:08am

I saw this screened at a film fest in Virginia. My GF is a longtime friend of one of the executive producers - read, big donor. It’s a real good look at the bubble some of these folks live in.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:17:32am

Excellent post - promoted!

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:21:17am

This is great.

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Testy Toad T  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:21:34am

You can’t easily reason somebody out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into.

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Tigger2  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:24:03am

Evidently in all my years I have either been to smart or to dumb to have been brainwashed I don’t know which it is yet./// But great post.

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Kragar  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:29:09am
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WhatEVs  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:29:29am

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Excellent post - promoted!

Holy cow! Thank you so much!

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:29:55am

re: #7 Kragar

Trump ad shows migrants at ‘southern border.’ They’re actually in Morocco. Pants on Fire t.co pic.twitter.com
— PolitiFact

Arizona, Morocca, wherever, man.

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:30:39am

re: #7 Kragar

[Trumpvoice]: “I’ll hire the top, top people and do absolutely the best advertising!!!”

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:32:27am

It seems that we are seeing the price for all the money we started “saving” over past decades on education: we have a serious segment of the population almost totally unaware of the basics of civics, politics, science or critical thinking.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:34:17am

re: #7 Kragar

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Morocco, the US/Mexico border, what’s the difference? //

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Timothy Watson  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:36:05am

I am reminded of this quote from William L. Shirer in The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich:

I myself was to experience how easily one is taken in by a lying and censored press and radio in a totalitarian state. Though unlike most Germans I had daily access to foreign newspapers, especially those of London, Paris and Zurich, which arrived the day after publication, and though I listened regularly to the BBC and other foreign broadcasts, my job necessitated the spending of many hours a day in combing the German press, checking the German radio, conferring with Nazi officials and going to party meetings. It was surprising and sometimes consternating to find that notwithstanding the opportunities I had to learn the facts and despite one’s inherent distrust of what one learned from Nazi sources, a steady diet over the years of falsifications and distortions made a certain impression on one’s mind and often misled it. No one who has not lived for years in a totalitarian land can possibly conceive how difficult it is to escape the dread consequences of a regime’s calculated and incessant propaganda. Often in a German home or office or sometimes in a casual conversation with a stranger in a restaurant, a beer hall, a cafe, I would meet with the most outlandish assertions from seemingly educated and intelligent persons. It was obvious that they were parroting some piece of nonsense they had heard on the radio or read in the newspapers. Sometimes one was tempted to say as much, but on such occasions one was met with such a stare of incredulity, such a shock of silence, as if one had blasphemed the Almighty, that one realized how useless it was even to try to make contact with a mind which had become warped and for whom the facts of life had become what Hitler and Goebbels, with their cynical disregard for truth, said they were.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:38:29am

re: #7 Kragar

It sure is the “message”, and that message isn’t what he thinks it is.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:39:13am
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WhatEVs  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:39:35am

re: #11 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

It seems that we are seeing the price for all the money we started “saving” over past decades on education: we have a serious segment of the population almost totally unaware of the basics of civics, politics, science or critical thinking.

I don’t think this was ever about saving money…it is and always has been about framing the discussion, about bending the facts to ideology.

The Texas schoolbooks debacle is a prime example. They want to teach adherence to ideology, they do not want to teach truth. When slavery is being taught as they weren’t slaves, they were “workers”…that is nothing but ideology.

And this is what the Republicans want and have wanted for decades. It is a direct tie in to the purpose of this article. Brainwashing at all ages and throughout every aspect of American life. This link from the main article is rather illuminating. The path to making education something to distrust, along with science and anything that goes against that ideology is not to be trusted or listened to.

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:40:12am

It starts with the editorial page of the Wall Street Journal, some Fox News, then the harder stuff: National Review Online, listening to Limbaugh and thinking “yeah, dittoes”; pretty soon the comment threads at Breitbart seem to be populated by some pretty sharp thinkers.

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Testy Toad T  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:41:37am

re: #17 jaunte

That and, generally speaking, feeling more and more out of touch with what “the youths” are turning culture and their country into.

It’s easy to steer somebody into an echo chamber when they feel like they’re shouting into the void and hearing no voice in response.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:45:44am

HURR HURR YOUR TEH ONE WHOSE BRAINWASHED LIBTARD!!!! ALL U WATCH IS MSNBC & NPR THERE TEH BRAINWASHERS!!!!!111 AND UR HUFFPOST & UR CNN & NYTIMES, ALL OF THEM LYERS!!!!1!!!!!

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Joe Bacon  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:47:38am

You also have to add in the brainwashing done in right wing churches as well!

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lawhawk  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:48:09am

Carson tries to stay relevant by pushing flat tax that shifts tax burdens from rich on to everyone else.

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nines09  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:48:37am

You hear it on Rush. Fox repeats it. Someone brings it up. “Yeah. I heard that too.” Now you have all that’s necessary to look no further. Tomorrow it will reinforced and repeated, and your circle of friends will undoubtedly tell you they heard the exact same thing elsewhere, that elsewhere being a like minded right wing show, or site. It is no mistake that the GOP acts as one, and stands as one. RINO purity tests and Tea Bag self righteousness are all part of the sell. I often wondered what happened to civilized nations that went totalitarian. I wonder no more. I can see the machinery right before my eyes.

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Testy Toad T  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:49:08am

re: #21 lawhawk

Carson tries to stay relevant by pushing flat tax that shifts tax burdens from rich on to everyone else.

NINE NINE NINE!!!1

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Kragar  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:49:42am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:53:16am

Rebranding:

and constitutional expertise on display:

must be some sort of sekrit methods so the gubmint can’t snoop:

Somebody should tell Ammon that Festivus is over and he’ll have to wait until end of the year for sharing his List of Grievances:

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Whack-A-Mole  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:55:21am

So, waaaaaayyyy OT, it has now been 38 hours since I ended a 30-year, pack a day smoking habit cold-turkey. My hands are shaking, I’m having trouble typing, I’m jumpy as hell. I also have s horrible headache and want to eat everything in sight, but only after I curse at it for about 5 minutes.

I’m really hating this atm.

I’m so glad the kids are with their mom for the next few days (not an accident; I planned it out this way).

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WhatEVs  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:56:14am

re: #24 Kragar

Hahahahaha! From that TPM article…

Ironically, the militia members, who are protesting too much government, have provided a postal address for supporters to send snacks, energy drinks, gear and other supplies — which would likely be delivered by the U.S. Postal Service.

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Tigger2  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:56:24am

re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rebranding:

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Bundy for Moochers seems like a good title for his cause.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:57:05am

re: #24 Kragar

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Quit your fucking job then asshole. Don’t support militia assholes and then expect hte Oregon taxpayer to foot your salary and benefits, shitbird.

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WhatEVs  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:57:07am

re: #26 Whack-A-Mole

Hang tough!! And good luck!

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ObserverArt  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:57:14am

Nice article WhatEVs. Sad that it is what it is.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:57:25am

re: #20 Joe Bacon

You also have to add in the brainwashing done in right wing churches as well!

One of the reasons I enjoy being part of an apolitical church.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:57:43am

re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rebranding:

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He just looks like an imbred asshole just like his stupid father.

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WhatEVs  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:58:29am

re: #31 ObserverArt

Nice article WhatEVs. Sad that it is what it is.

Thanks! And ain’t that the truth. Republican’s are getting their comeuppance (thanks Donald!) but who knows the lasting effects of the right-wing machine.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:59:00am

re: #26 Whack-A-Mole

Hang in there friend!! The first few days are always the toughest. You can do it!!

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calochortus  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:59:11am

re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth

If he wants to help the local citizens, he might want to ask them what they actually want. Then he can leave when they tell him to.

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lawhawk  Jan 4, 2016 • 11:59:51am

Meanwhile, Trump’s campaign flacks say that they know that they’re using footage that isn’t from the US border in their border ad. They say that’s what it’ll look like if something isn’t done.

And the wall that is depicted in the video? Let’s go to the fact-check:

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:01:23pm

what in the utter fuck

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WhatEVs  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:01:31pm

re: #26 Whack-A-Mole

BTW, when I quit smoking the first time (for 15 years), I used the trick that the cancer society put out and it helped A LOT! Pretend like you’re smoking…take a deep breathe, hold it in (as you would when smoking) and then blow it out. They said that your body is used to going through the motions of smoking and that helps the body acclimate to not smoking by almost smoking.

It helped me quite a lot and I didn’t think I would ever smoke again…until my dad had a stroke.

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:02:20pm
You wind up with an entire propaganda machine to support every statement, you’ve created an entire segment of society who is brainwashed into seeing government as the problem and those with differing opinions as traitors who should be exterminated.

This is why I don’t blame, say, the residents of a place like Tennessee for electing a guy like Bevin. I have a problem with condemnations like, ‘They didn’t elect his opponent so they deserve to lose their health care!’ They’ve been lied to since they were infants by the best liars in the world, and then get blamed for believing.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:02:41pm

re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ammon Bundy beginning press conference - says name of his group is Citizens for Constitutional Freedom Destruction

What they really are.

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lawhawk  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:04:19pm

The sovereign citizen movement boils down to - I say that the government is illegal therefore it is illegal. If I say court cases don’t count, they don’t count. And lots of conspiracies and illogic and lack of reason to bolster their bad crazy coupled with firearms. Lots of firearms.

Of course, that’s not how any of this works, and there’s decades of precedent for government ownership of land across the nation, including lands in Utah, Oregon, Alaska, and elsewhere in the West.

These nutters want to roll back federal government ownership so they can do what they want without the government rules (or fees). They want something for nothing (which makes stuff like this all the more hilarious):

Something for nothing, but I better get my government check or else I can’t show up to protest!

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WhatEVs  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:04:24pm

re: #38 The Vicious Babushka

what in the utter fuck

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Trump sounds more and more like Jon Lovitz’s pathological liar as each day goes by.

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lawhawk  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:04:59pm

re: #38 The Vicious Babushka

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:05:00pm

re: #38 The Vicious Babushka

what in the utter fuck

How presidential very wise leadership.

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:05:43pm

re: #40 wrenchwench

This is why I don’t blame, say, the residents of a place like Tennessee for electing a guy like Bevin. I have a problem with condemnations like, ‘They didn’t elect his opponent so they deserve to lose their health care!’ They’ve been lied to since they were infants by the best liars in the world, and then get blamed for believing.

I agree that we shouldn’t advocate them losing things because of their voting, but at some point they have to grow up. How do you make them see what they are doing? Can you perform an intervention on a quarter of a state?

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Lidane  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:06:37pm

The oppo research on Il Douche is finally starting to emerge:

Expect to see a lot of Super PAC money flowing between now and the primaries to get stories like these out.

We may need more popcorn.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:06:45pm

The reason these propaganda models work is because love having someone else to blame THEIR problems on. I don’t have the job I want but thats because of Affirmative action and the Blacks. I don’t have enough money but that’s because those no good Jew bankers are gaming the system. I pay too much for healthcare but thats because all those illegals are coming in and getting it for free and so on and so on.

As long as there is someone to blame (and there always will be) the system can sustain itself without interruption. They convince you its not your fault, it has nothing to do with you and everything to do with the forces against you.

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WhatEVs  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:07:53pm

re: #46 Belafon

I agree that we shouldn’t advocate them losing things because of their voting, but at some point they have to grow up. How do you make them see what they are doing? Can you perform an intervention on a quarter of a state?

The point is that they aren’t kids…they are brainwashed. They are brainwashed by the noise machine, by their churches, by being in the bubble and not able to see outside of it - or unable to see what is real and what isn’t.

I know how hard it is to not think FUCK EM! They deserve what they get. No one deserves it.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:08:51pm

re: #47 Lidane

Trump Once Cut Off Medical Care For Sick Infant To Spite the Parents t.co pic.twitter.com
— Mediaite

Trump approval rating increases among RWNJ.

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:09:00pm

re: #26 Whack-A-Mole

So, waaaaaayyyy OT, it has now been 38 hours since I ended a 30-year, pack a day smoking habit cold-turkey. My hands are shaking, I’m having trouble typing, I’m jumpy as hell. I also have s horrible headache and want to eat everything in sight, but only after I curse at it for about 5 minutes.

I’m really hating this atm.

I’m so glad the kids are with their mom for the next few days (not an accident; I planned it out this way).

The first year is the hardest. :)

Mr. w quit cold turkey 16 years ago after smoking Camel no filters for 50 years (he started very young. And my math could be wrong.)

Good luck! Stay busy!

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Testy Toad T  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:09:26pm

re: #47 Lidane

The oppo research on Il Douche is finally starting to emerge:

Expect to see a lot of Super PAC money flowing between now and the primaries to get stories like these out.

We may need more popcorn.

Those that like Trump will merely see this as strength. The GOP still doesn’t understand that it’s playing the wrong game.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:09:31pm
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451_Montag  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:09:48pm

For a really good insight intoo cult control, can I suggest “Combatting Cult Mind Control” by Steve Hassan?

Ex-Mooney who counsels cult survivors. When you read it the similarities between the Right-Wing media machine and relgious cults is glaring

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:09:59pm

re: #46 Belafon

I agree that we shouldn’t advocate them losing things because of their voting, but at some point they have to grow up. How do you make them see what they are doing? Can you perform an intervention on a quarter of a state?

One person at a time.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:12:24pm

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

What, all 5 of them?

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lawhawk  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:12:34pm

They are the gang that can’t do anything right. Guess we’re lucky that they’re so completely incompetent.

It also shows the fallacy that well armed nutters could hold off the government.

Logistics. It’s how you manage to last more than 24 hours in a national wildlife refuge.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:13:24pm

re: #38 The Vicious Babushka

what in the utter fuck

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Well Donald, the team that is in the playoffs because of the Jets choking is owned by a huge Obama supporter and in fact was Ambassador to Ireland.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:13:43pm

re: #57 lawhawk

Wow they really didn’t fucking plan this well at all did they??

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WhatEVs  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:14:27pm

re: #47 Lidane

The oppo research on Il Douche is finally starting to emerge:

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Expect to see a lot of Super PAC money flowing between now and the primaries to get stories like these out.

We may need more popcorn.

What a horrible excuse for a human being. The really sad thing is that there are a lot of people who like this.

As I have said…never read the comments.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:14:38pm

re: #40 wrenchwench

This is why I don’t blame, say, the residents of a place like Tennessee for electing a guy like Bevin. I have a problem with condemnations like, ‘They didn’t elect his opponent so they deserve to lose their health care!’ They’ve been lied to since they were infants by the best liars in the world, and then get blamed for believing.

Right and honestly even if they did vote for Bevin, they dont’ deserve to be fucked over by his godawful policies. Not to play pedant WW but you meant Kentucky.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:15:32pm

re: #57 lawhawk

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They are the gang that can’t do anything right. Guess we’re lucky that they’re so completely incompetent.

It also shows the fallacy that well armed nutters could hold off the government.

Logistics. It’s how you manage to last more than 24 hours in a national wildlife refuge.

DID WASHINGTON & TEH PATRIOTS QUIT VALLEY FORGE BECAUSE THEY DIDN’T HAVE HOT SHOWERS!!!!1!!!!!

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451_Montag  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:16:28pm

re: #57 lawhawk

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They are the gang that can’t do anything right. Guess we’re lucky that they’re so completely incompetent.

It also shows the fallacy that well armed nutters could hold off the government.

Logistics. It’s how you manage to last more than 24 hours in a national wildlife refuge.

Maybe someone coukd start a rumor that pouring gunpowder over your head and setting fire to it will clean it. Sort of like Rambo. It worked in the movies

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Testy Toad T  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:16:29pm

re: #59 Eclectic Cyborg

Wow they really didn’t fucking plan this well at all did they??

WE’RE STAYING FOR YEARRRRRRS

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:16:31pm

re: #61 HappyWarrior

Right and honestly even if they did vote for Bevin, they dont’ deserve to be fucked over by his godawful policies. Not to play pedant WW but you meant Kentucky.

That’s better than pedantry, that’s fact checking. Thanks.

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:16:48pm

re: #57 lawhawk

I wonder how long the locals will put up with supplying them with necessities they should have planned for.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:16:58pm

There’s a Hammond Ranch Benefit page on gofundme.
donotlink.com

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:17:35pm

I won’t lie. I sometimes think they deserve what they’re voting for but the right wing propaganda machine goes a long way. It’s why ultimately I have more contempt for the GOP establishment than the true believers. Are the true believers, assholes, yeah they are no doubt about it but the true believers aren’t cynically using average Americans fears about gays, non-Christians, etc to get votes. The GOP establishment prays on fear and resentment for political power. It’s why ultimately if you pressed me I have a lot of disgust for someone like George C. Wallace who played bigotry for votes and thus power.

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:17:47pm

Although why should Ritzheimer need shampoo.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:18:14pm

re: #65 wrenchwench

That’s better than pedantry, that’s fact checking. Thanks.

I know but I didn’t want it to distract from your overall point.

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451_Montag  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:19:14pm

re: #69 jaunte

Although why should Ritzheimer need shampoo.

For his back?

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Belafon  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:21:04pm

re: #68 HappyWarrior

I won’t lie. I sometimes think they deserve what they’re voting for but the right wing propaganda machine goes a long way. It’s why ultimately I have more contempt for the GOP establishment than the true believers. Are the true believers, assholes, yeah they are no doubt about it but the true believers aren’t cynically using average Americans fears about gays, non-Christians, etc to get votes. The GOP establishment prays on fear and resentment for political power. It’s why ultimately if you pressed me I have a lot of disgust for someone like George C. Wallace who played bigotry for votes and thus power.

I agree that the people worse than those who are bigots are those that use bigotry for their own ends, but let’s not let the bigots off the hook.

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Lidane  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:21:13pm

re: #59 Eclectic Cyborg

Wow they really didn’t fucking plan this well at all did they??

What’s stupid is that there’s still no law enforcement in the area. Y’all Qaeda can freely move between that building and the nearby Walmart and stock up on what they need.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:23:59pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:24:26pm

re: #74 The Vicious Babushka

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“Locks”?
Why do they need locks?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:24:52pm

re: #72 Belafon

I agree that the people worse than those who are bigots are those that use bigotry for their own ends, but let’s not let the bigots off the hook.

Oh of course not.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:25:32pm

re: #75 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Locks”?
Why do they need locks?

To replace the ones they busted when they broke in.

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:25:43pm

Paying For Are Hygeine Items Is Tyrany

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Tigger2  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:25:49pm

re: #57 lawhawk

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They are the gang that can’t do anything right. Guess we’re lucky that they’re so completely incompetent.

It also shows the fallacy that well armed nutters could hold off the government.

Logistics. It’s how you manage to last more than 24 hours in a national wildlife refuge.

So much for them being rugged individuals.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:25:54pm

re: #21 lawhawk

Carson tries to stay relevant by pushing flat tax that shifts tax burdens from rich on to everyone else.

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I just looked at the details. Holy Christ! ‘Giveaway to the rich’ doesn’t begin to cover it.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:26:21pm

re: #74 The Vicious Babushka

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their number one priority: FOIL
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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:26:49pm

AT GALT’S GULCH THEY SMELTED THERE OWN IRON & MACHINED ALL THERE OWN TOOLS IN THERE VERY OWN BLAST FURNACE THAY BUILDED BY HAND!!!!!1!!!!

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:27:27pm
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Testy Toad T  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:27:48pm

re: #80 Blind Frog Belly White

I just looked at the details. Holy Christ! ‘Giveaway to the rich’ doesn’t begin to cover it.

I wonder how evangelical leaders feel about eliminating deductions for charitable giving.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:28:31pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:29:11pm

re: #48 Eclectic Cyborg

The reason these propaganda models work is because love having someone else to blame THEIR problems on. I don’t have the job I want but thats because of Affirmative action and the Blacks. I don’t have enough money but that’s because those no good Jew bankers are gaming the system. I pay too much for healthcare but thats because all those illegals are coming in and getting it for free and so on and so on.

As long as there is someone to blame (and there always will be) the system can sustain itself without interruption. They convince you its not your fault, it has nothing to do with you and everything to do with the forces against you.

Personal responsibility - real personal responsibility - where you look at your actions and think critically about what you could have done better and how you contributed to the situation you’re in - that shit is fucking hard. Most people don’t want to acknowledge their faults. It’s uncomfortable to do so, and people shy away from it.

I’ve written before about how integrity is one of the principles that I do my best to live by, and I can’t achieve that without that kind of self-introspection. So I know from experience that there are days it really fucking sucks to look at your life and realize that yep, that fuck-up is all on you.

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:29:18pm

re: #16 WhatEVs

I don’t think this was ever about saving money…it is and always has been about framing the discussion, about bending the facts to ideology.

that’s why “saving” was in quotes: it wasn’t all about saving money, although indoctrination (with a bit of vocational training tossed in on the side) is still loads cheaper than a humanistic education.

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:29:38pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

Looks like the truck driver stomach in Sideways.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:30:41pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

The unnamed bodyguard is Brian David Cavalier, aka Booda. He’s a tattoo artist from Arizona

Is she suggesting that he would be unarmed in a battle of wits with a child??
because that sure looks like a pistol on his right hip

whoops…one of these days I might breakdown and get some glasses

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Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:31:14pm

re: #57 lawhawk

Logistics. It’s how you manage to last more than 24 hours in a national wildlife refuge.

I guess they assumed that the Feds would have attacked them with napalm and tear gas by now…

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Tigger2  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:34:03pm

re: #83 Charles Johnson

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If that’s an example of his work he would touch my body with a needle.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:34:04pm

re: #84 Testy Toad T

I wonder how evangelical leaders feel about eliminating deductions for charitable giving.

Not to mention the effect of the elimination of the Mortgage Interest deduction on the housing market.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:34:08pm

re: #89 FormerDirtDart

Is she suggesting that he would be unarmed in a battle of wits with a child??
because that sure looks like a pistol on his right hip

I’m thinking this is a case of unarmed and unnamed looking very similar?

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WhatEVs  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:34:09pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

There’s a Hammond Ranch Benefit page on gofundme.
donotlink.com

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Whack-A-Mole  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:34:11pm

Thank you all for the kind words and suggestions. I’m really think I’m going to make it this time, I don’t remember during any of my failed atttempts to quit ever feeling as motivated as I am this time. Even as bad as I’m feeling right now and for the next few days, I want to quit. Even when the thought of having just one sneaks into my head, it runs headlong into a wall of “#$%# that, never again!” which is different from every time I’ve tried in the past.

Thinking positive thoughts and not giving up, just hating every minute of the next few days.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:35:45pm

re: #85 Charles Johnson

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They should stand around in the open in big, warm parkas, drinking enormous cups of steaming hot coffee with one hand, while wolfing down big, messy sandwiches with the other.

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BeachDem  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:35:52pm

re: #13 Timothy Watson

I am reminded of this quote from William L. Shirer in The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich:

I’m reminded of this quote from Orwell’s 1984:

“Crimestop means the faculty of stopping short, as though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought. It includes the power of not grasping analogies, of failing to perceive logical errors, of misunderstanding the simplest arguments if they are inimical to Ingsoc, and of being bored or repelled by any train of thought which is capable of leading in a heretical direction. Crimestop, in short, means protective stupidity.”

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WhatEVs  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:36:31pm

re: #68 HappyWarrior

I won’t lie. I sometimes think they deserve what they’re voting for but the right wing propaganda machine goes a long way. It’s why ultimately I have more contempt for the GOP establishment than the true believers. Are the true believers, assholes, yeah they are no doubt about it but the true believers aren’t cynically using average Americans fears about gays, non-Christians, etc to get votes. The GOP establishment prays on fear and resentment for political power. It’s why ultimately if you pressed me I have a lot of disgust for someone like George C. Wallace who played bigotry for votes and thus power.

It’s understandable. I have that reaction myself. I want them to hurt like they are hurting others. It is hard for me to remember how they got here. Some, sure…they are fucking assholes. Others, though, are completely brainwashed.

What’s sadder is that older people are especially susceptible since they (and to a degree, me) grew up with news people having to report truth. Fox sued to be allowed to do just that, lie to their viewers…and won.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:37:34pm

re: #93 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m thinking this is a case of unarmed and unnamed looking very similar?

whoops…one of these days I might breakdown and get some glasses

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:38:31pm

re: #99 FormerDirtDart

whoops…one of these days I might breakdown and get some glasses

I have done the same thing when skimming.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:39:22pm

Meanwhile Dana Muhgunz is losing her shit over what seems to be a typo or poor editing.

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Kragar  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:39:38pm

Guess who loves Yokel Haram?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:39:57pm

While the disagreement occurring in Oregon about the use of federal lands is not a Church matter, Church leaders strongly condemn the armed seizure of the facility and are deeply troubled by the reports that those who have seized the facility suggest that they are doing so based on scriptural principles. This armed occupation can in no way be justified on a scriptural basis. We are privileged to live in a nation where conflicts with government or private groups can — and should — be settled using peaceful means, according to the laws of the land.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:40:06pm

re: #98 WhatEVs

It’s understandable. I have that reaction myself. I want them to hurt like they are hurting others. It is hard for me to remember how they got here. Some, sure…they are fucking assholes. Others, though, are completely brainwashed.

What’s sadder is that older people are especially susceptible since they (and to a degree, me) grew up with news people having to report truth. Fox sued to be allowed to do just that, lie to their viewers…and won.

You know what’s really sad? When I was out of town, my mom’s cousin and his adoptive daughter stopped by to deliver some food. Great people honestly. They bake the most delicious pierogis and nutroll and my cousin picks up some delicious kielbasa from the town where my grandmother and her sister grew up to give us. So it turns out my cousin is a Trump supporter even though Trump sings the praises of Putin who banned Americans from adopting kids from Russia. His own adoptive children are from Russia. And then hearing his daughter likes Ted Cruz who is also anti-immigrant as well.I remember showing her a photo of my niece who is a direct beneficiary of birthright citizenship (my SiL isn’t a citizen yet) and she thought she was adorable. But yeah often some are assholes but there’s a lot of brainwashing too. I think that’s why the Republican Party supports cuts to things like education. A more educated populace would fuck the Republican Party and they know it.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:40:38pm

re: #101 The Vicious Babushka

Meanwhile Dana Muhgunz is losing her shit over what seems to be a typo or poor editing.

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It’s a fuck up but Dana fucks up far more often.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:40:48pm

re: #84 Testy Toad T

I wonder how evangelical leaders feel about eliminating deductions for charitable giving.

Oh, no, the flat tax won’t be that flat.

/

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:40:51pm

re: #86 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Personal responsibility - real personal responsibility - where you look at your actions and think critically about what you could have done better and how you contributed to the situation you’re in - that shit is fucking hard. Most people don’t want to acknowledge their faults. It’s uncomfortable to do so, and people shy away from it.

I’ve written before about how integrity is one of the principles that I do my best to live by, and I can’t achieve that without that kind of self-introspection. So I know from experience that there are days it really fucking sucks to look at your life and realize that yep, that fuck-up is all on you.

When I find myself getting upset with Mrs. FBW or the assorted small FBWs, I try to take a moment and ask myself whether there’s something unrelated that I’m anxious about, which I’m responding to with outwardly directed anger.

Guess what? Almost invariably, that’s the case.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:41:06pm

re: #95 Whack-A-Mole

Stupid as it sounds, I use an app to track my streak for a number of different things that I’ve been trying to do differently. Keeping my streak going really helps.

January marked 6 months of exercising at least 3 times a week (most weeks it is 5 and for longer than my minimum, but having it low helps keep it up during vacations), and also a few other positive changes. Just from installing a habit tracker on my phone, and not wanting to let things slip.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:41:29pm

re: #102 Kragar

Guess who loves Yokel Haram?

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I’d have more respect for Greenwald if he lived in America and wasn’t an ass kisser to real tyrannical regimes.

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gocart mozart  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:41:46pm

They were convicted of the crime of arson which carries a 5 year mandatory minimum sentence. They were able to somehow convince the trial judge to ignore the law and impose a lesser sentence. The prosecutor appealed and the appellate court said “5 year mandatory’ means “5 year mandatory” even for over privileged welfare cowboys. Massive butthurt and whining ensued. Does that about cover it?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:42:45pm

Arson is a pretty serious crime. I am no fan of MM’s in principle but arson is a crime that can and does get people killed.

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:44:09pm

Five years for willfully burning 139 acres doesn’t seem excessive.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:44:34pm

re: #110 gocart mozart

They were convicted of the crime of arson which carries a 5 year mandatory minimum sentence. They were able to somehow convince the trial judge to ignore the law and impose a lesser sentence. The prosecutor appealed and the appellate court said “5 year mandatory’ means “5 year mandatory” even for over privileged welfare cowboys. Massive butthurt and whining ensued. Does that about cover it?

I can’t wait for Bundy et al. to set up in a city park some place to protest Mandatory Minimum Sentences for nonviolent drug offenses. I’m sure the fact that they disproportionately affect black people couldn’t possibly dissuade them….

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:44:49pm

re: #112 jaunte

Five years for willfully burning 139 acres doesn’t seem excessive.

I don’t think so either.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:46:18pm

re: #114 HappyWarrior

I don’t think so either.

Oh, but they were, “Just some good old boys, never meanin’ no harm”…

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:47:16pm

re: #115 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh, but they were, “Just some good old boys, never meanin’ no harm”…

Boys will be boys.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:49:18pm

re: #116 HappyWarrior

Boys Poachers will be boys Arsonists.

FTFY

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Jay C  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:49:48pm

re: #112 jaunte

Five years for willfully burning 139 acres doesn’t seem excessive.

Didn’t the Hammonds also have a to pay a hefty (? $400K or so ?) fine as part of their “plea” - to cover at least some of the costs of fighting the “teeny” brushfire they started?

ETA: And also: aren’t Hammond pere and fils getting credit for “time served” on that “minimum” sentence”? Dunno what Federal parole standards are for crimes like theirs, (and I’m sure they would qualify) but it doesn’t seem that they are going to be in slam for that full five years in any case…

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:50:01pm

“You’re not supposed to kill those deer you just shot up.”
“That’s ok, we’ll get rid of the witnesses.”
“Those are trees, man.”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:50:16pm

re: #117 Blind Frog Belly White

FTFY

Ha.

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BeachDem  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:50:48pm

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

There’s a Hammond Ranch Benefit page on gofundme.
donotlink.com

And the clearcut explanation of what the funds are to be used for…

Funds from this campaign will be used in a campaign to help those standing up for freedom and against an increasing tyrannically oppressive government.

has resulted in $0.00 contributions thus far.
/

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lizardofid  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:50:50pm

re: #57 lawhawk

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They are the gang that can’t do anything right. Guess we’re lucky that they’re so completely incompetent.

It also shows the fallacy that well armed nutters could hold off the government.

Logistics. It’s how you manage to last more than 24 hours in a national wildlife refuge.

At this rate I hope we don’t get a bad blizzard in the area, or we’ll have to send in a rescue team!

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WhatEVs  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:52:39pm

re: #121 BeachDem

And the clearcut explanation of what the funds are to be used for…

Funds from this campaign will be used in a campaign to help those standing up for freedom and against an increasing tyrannically oppressive government.

has resulted in $0.00 contributions thus far.
/

And this is the only comment thus far.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:53:14pm

re: #123 WhatEVs

And this is the only comment thus far.

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Obviously someone who watches too much lamestream media.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:53:20pm

Crazy wingnut in my mentions is PROUD to live in a fantasy world of bullshit.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:53:55pm

re: #121 BeachDem

And the clearcut explanation of what the funds are to be used for…

Funds from this campaign will be used in a campaign to help those standing up for freedom and against an increasing tyrannically oppressive government.

has resulted in $0.00 contributions thus far.
/

Once they get about $40, they can send out for Pizza. But I bet they’ll stiff the driver on the tip.

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jaunte  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:54:35pm

re: #125 The Vicious Babushka

Send her BeachDem’s comment #97 on crimestop.

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Maxwell Not So Smart  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:55:26pm

This morning while I was getting ready for work Trump was on CNN spewing his bat shit crazy. I was thinking how the politicians used to be about solving issues brought to or before the people. Now the politicians are the problem before the people. All too many of them appear to concern themselves only with getting the job and influence that comes with it not the doing the job they are supposed to be doing.

I wondered is this what happened to ancient Rome. Timely article for me.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:56:09pm

re: #122 lizardofid

At this rate I hope we don’t get a bad blizzard in the area, or we’ll have to send in a rescue team!

“Bullets. Everybody brought bullets. Lots and lots of bullets. Any of you assholes think of bringing FOOD?”

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WhatEVs  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:56:57pm

Time to make chicken chile verde. BBIAB

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451_Montag  Jan 4, 2016 • 12:59:32pm

I’m starting to think this is elaborate Redneck performance art. Seriously invading an isolated nature reserve then using social media for supplies?

“I’ll bring the 50 cal”
“What about the shampoo?”
“We’ll send out a Tweet, don’t worry”

Honestly this is supposed to inspire?

Are we sure Andy Kaufman is really dead?

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2016 • 1:00:08pm

re: #121 BeachDem

And the clearcut explanation of what the funds are to be used for…

Funds from this campaign will be used in a campaign to help those standing up for freedom and against an increasing tyrannically oppressive government.

has resulted in $0.00 contributions thus far.
/

Y’allQuada probably heard how good the refugees had it, what with a cot and three meals and hot showers daily, and thought they were going to live rich & wild at the Malheur Refuge.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2016 • 1:00:34pm

re: #131 451_Montag

These are the same people who tweet begging for gasoline cards when they’re on the road to their next protest event.

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Kragar  Jan 4, 2016 • 1:00:50pm
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Brian J.  Jan 4, 2016 • 1:01:38pm

Markets rally into the close, Dow only down 274 for the day. Woohoo.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 4, 2016 • 1:03:03pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2016 • 1:03:11pm

re: #134 Kragar

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This might be more in keeping with his ‘Middle Eastern’ theme…

Pile O’ Zombies
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Lidane  Jan 4, 2016 • 1:04:30pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2016 • 1:05:40pm
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Kragar  Jan 4, 2016 • 1:05:44pm

re: #137 Blind Frog Belly White

This might be more in keeping with his ‘Middle Eastern’ theme…

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I had used that one earlier, so trying to branch out

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 4, 2016 • 1:06:13pm

re: #134 Kragar

Screengrab from #Trump’s next immigration video:

Heh…I watching the assault sequence from “The Alamo” right now

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2016 • 1:06:42pm

re: #140 Kragar

I had used that one earlier, so trying to branch out

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Ah. Didn’t see that. Work takes a terrible toll on my participation.

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Shimshon  Jan 4, 2016 • 1:08:08pm

Manipulating vulnerable people with fear is one of the oldest tricks in the book.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2016 • 1:08:35pm

re: #140 Kragar

I had used that one earlier, so trying to branch out

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From Prototype Atheist’s Twitter blurb:

Molecular biologist, husband, dad, atheist.

Sounds like a great guy!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2016 • 1:10:30pm

re: #143 Shimshon

Manipulating vulnerable people with fear is one of the oldest tricks in the book.

“So we prayed to Phil - ‘Oh, Phil, please don’t beat us up.’ Then Phil was struck by lightning, and we said, ‘There’s something bigger than Phil!’”

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BadgerB  Jan 4, 2016 • 1:12:13pm

re: #112 jaunte

Five years for willfully burning 139 acres doesn’t seem excessive.

Even if 5 years for burning 139 acres seems high the crime was starting a fire on someone else’s property which they had neither the ability nor the interest to control. In the end it wasn’t the fact that it only burned 139 acres but the possibility that it could have burned thousands that sets the minimum for this kind of arson at five years.

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2016 • 1:13:29pm

It’s way past time to raise the rates. No subsidies for beef!

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BeachDem  Jan 4, 2016 • 1:13:42pm

re: #126 Blind Frog Belly White

Once they get about $40, they can send out for Pizza. But I bet they’ll stiff the driver on the tip.

And since the kid who started the gofundme page is 26 and lives (I think with mommy) in Massachusetts, I’m sure he’s suffered countless tyrannical indignities in his life—once, they left the pepperoni off his pizza—oh the humanity!
/

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 4, 2016 • 1:15:43pm

re: #148 BeachDem

And since the kid who started the gofundme page is 26 and lives (I think with mommy) in Massachusetts, I’m sure he’s suffered countless tyrannical indignities in his life—once, they left the pepperoni off his pizza—oh the humanity!
/

They forgot the tiny 3-legged stool and all the cheese stuck to the box

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 4, 2016 • 1:17:39pm

re: #147 wrenchwench

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It’s way past time to raise the rates. No subsidies for beef!

$1.69 per head per month is the BLM grazing fee for 2015.

blm.gov

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wrenchwench  Jan 4, 2016 • 1:22:12pm

re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth

$1.69 per head per month is the BLM grazing fee for 2015.

blm.gov

If New Mexico received Payment in Lieu of Decent Grazing Fees in addition to PILT, we could afford to keep a few more kids alive to adulthood.

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Cheechako  Jan 4, 2016 • 1:39:49pm

re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth

$1.69 per head per month is the BLM grazing fee for 2015.

blm.gov

Keep in mind the BLM does not set the price. The $1.69/AUM fee comes direct from Congress. You know, those good buddies of the ranchers.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 4, 2016 • 1:46:40pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

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Damn. I don’t usually block liberals, but that one got on my last nerve fast.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jan 4, 2016 • 1:55:00pm

re: #122 lizardofid

At this rate I hope we don’t get a bad blizzard in the area, or we’ll have to send in a rescue team!

They’ll burst out the doors, guns blazing, to fend off the invading storm!

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Anymouse  Jan 5, 2016 • 1:27:51am

re: #67 Backwoods_Sleuth

The GoGriftMe page has been pulled. I suspect it violates GoFundMe’s policy of not funding criminal activity.

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I Stand With Planned Parenthood  Jan 7, 2016 • 5:13:39pm

When a woman with a law degree CHOOSES to be a Barbie doll on TV wearing glamour make-up and showing lots of leg … .

There is definitely not a much real journalism going on.


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