The Milo Yiannopoulos Checkmark Tantrum Continues: Now He’s Retweeting Threats of Violence

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Following up on our post telling The Sad Tale of the Milo Yiannopoulos Blue Checkmark Tantrum (which now has almost 9,000 social media shares, by the way), our hapless hero of hate speech and misogyny has been continuing a non-stop blitz of tweets about his cruel persecution at the hands of the evil Twitter, mixed with his usual egomaniacal boasting and self-promotion.

And today, he’s crossed another line, blatantly violating Twitter’s terms of service by retweeting violent threats, broadcasting these threats to his 145,000+ followers — many of whom are far right gun fetishists.

Here are screenshots from TweetDeck, showing Yiannopoulos’ retweets, because I suspect they may suddenly be deleted when the creep who posted them realizes that making threats of violence online isn’t just against Twitter’s TOS — it’s also against the law.

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242 comments

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Kragar  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:49:58am

What kind of pin dick loser suggests he’s going to kill someone because somebody else didn’t get a “special snowflake gold star checkmark!” next to his name?

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nines09  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:52:19am

Twitter has to recognise that this entire thing is enabled by them. If he had no Twitter to Tweet his hate on, he would have a smaller audience. WTF do you have to do to get banned again?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:52:50am

re: #1 Kragar

What kind of pin dick loser suggests he’s going to kill someone because somebody else didn’t get a “special snowflake gold star checkmark!” next to his name?

What’s the usual ‘plausible deniability’ response? Something like, “Retweeting doesn’t necessarily imply agreement”? That’ll be Milo’s fallback.

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Csarneson  Jan 14, 2016 • 11:55:50am

I despise Milo and his tantrum but I don’t see this as a threat of violence.

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Black d20  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:00:58pm

re: #4 Csarneson

It’s kind of an implied threat veiled as a ‘warning’ of someone getting so mad about their little blue checkmark censorship a private owner of a public forum having a say about their product that they resort to revenge. Considering the sources, it’s hard not to read into the unstated ‘… or else’.

Edit: Also, I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt here and not just start slamming - on sight. It’s just that a horribly awful man has horribly awful fans who at least are horribly awful enough to try and intimidate someone over Twitter verification.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:03:47pm

re: #4 Csarneson

I despise Milo and his tantrum but I don’t see this as a threat of violence.

Oh please.

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Csarneson  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:04:09pm

re: #5 Black d20

Absolutely. I can agree with everything you said. Charles described it as “blatant” and I don’t think it falls into that category though.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:04:39pm

re: #7 Csarneson

Given your commenting history here, let’s just say this isn’t surprising.

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nines09  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:05:09pm

Speaking of victims……Everything wrong with professional sports in a nutshell.
Oh the humanity…..That’s taxpayers money folks….

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:05:36pm

re: #4 Csarneson

I despise Milo and his tantrum but I don’t see this as a threat of violence.

He’s essentially saying “Nice privately owned public forum you got here. Be a shame if something was to happen to it.”

I mean, seriously, he’s saying ‘Keep pissing people off by not giving Milo back his blue checkmark, and someone may get mad enough to kill you.” And you don’t think this constitutes a threat?

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Kragar  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:05:49pm

re: #4 Csarneson

Yeah, the whole “any violence is on you” and “are you trying to incite a twitter killer?” is really ambiguous.
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Black d20  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:05:55pm

re: #7 Csarneson

I still think it’s some sort of notable-if-not-imminent threat, and I would not be shocked if Twitter just gave Milo the heave-ho he fucking deserves. Not only would be fair given the givens, the toothless rage afterwards would be extraordinary.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:06:43pm

re: #11 Kragar

Yeah, the whole “any violence is on you” and “are you trying to incite a twitter killer?” is really ambiguous.
//

“Look what you made me do!”

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:08:19pm

re: #7 Csarneson

Absolutely. I can agree with everything you said. Charles described it as “blatant” and I don’t think it falls into that category though.

By the way, I wrote that this is a blatant violation of Twitter’s TOS, which it is. Nice try at distorting what I wrote.

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scottslemmons  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:10:03pm

Well, you know how it goes — fascist fantasists gotta fantasize about fascism. Maybe ubermensch Trump will let them hang out in his bunker… :/

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Csarneson  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:11:11pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Charles I like your writing and I agree with you on most things but sometimes you language is a little over-the-top.

To say those tweets are “blatant” is not something I can agree with. I certainly think they could be viewed as “mennacing” or “veiled” though. I also a little shocked that Twitter hasn’t just banned him outright. He certainly deserves that.

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bratwurst  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:11:26pm

Quick update: made it to the airport without any problem, 47 minutes from hanging up phone with taxi to clearing security, doesn’t get easier than that! Made it here to lounge totally on my own steam, enjoying adult beverage!

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Shimshon  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:11:45pm

dudebro has a spiralling cocaine problem, pretty soon he’s gonna Breitbart himself. And I’m okay with that.

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WhatEVs  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:12:37pm

re: #4 Csarneson

I despise Milo and his tantrum but I don’t see this as a threat of violence.

Does this one meet your criteria…whatever that may be? Or is this too circumspect for you?

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Black d20  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:12:46pm

re: #15 scottslemmons

Milo might be a bit too gay for the Trump, mind you. If allowed, he’d at least be a Useful [Insert Homosexual Male Stereotype Here]; all Milo cares about is attention and riling people up.

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CuriousLurker  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:13:03pm

re: #17 bratwurst

Quick update: made it to the airport without any problem, 47 minutes from hanging up phone with taxi to clearing security, doesn’t get easier than that! Made it here to lounge totally on my own steam, enjoying adult beverage!

Excellent news! Hope the rest of your trip goes smoothly. Have fun. ;-)

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wrenchwench  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:14:05pm

re: #16 Csarneson

I agree with you on most things

People who say that to me always go on to prove it a lie.

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WhatEVs  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:15:28pm

re: #20 Black d20

Milo might be a bit too gay for the Trump, mind you. If allowed, he’d at least be a Useful [Insert Homosexual Male Stereotype Here]; all Milo cares about is attention and riling people up.

He’s the stereotypical gay guy that we’re supposed to hate…hates them icky wimmens and wants to inflict violence upon us (something not one gay person I know would ever think) so that there are no more wimmens. WIN! Or something.

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Black d20  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:15:36pm

re: #22 wrenchwench

People who say that to me always go on to prove it a lie.

Should I be filing that in the same folder with “But I have X friends, so…” and “I’m not an X, but…”?

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WhatEVs  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:17:09pm

re: #17 bratwurst

Quick update: made it to the airport without any problem, 47 minutes from hanging up phone with taxi to clearing security, doesn’t get easier than that! Made it here to lounge totally on my own steam, enjoying adult beverage!

Awesome! When you get to AZ, grab a box of Emergen-C and have a few packets. That always helps me not get sick from flying with everyone else (and their kids and their kids friends and everyone they know who has sniffles). Just a thought.

Enjoy your trip!!! Be well and healthy!

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wrenchwench  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:17:45pm

re: #24 Black d20

Should I be filing that in the same folder with “But I have X friends, so…” and “I’m not an X, but…”?

Evidence is pointing that way.

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Black d20  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:18:00pm

re: #23 WhatEVs

He unfortunately also falls into the Conniving and Craven Bastard stereotype considering his former strong disapproval of gamers up until Gamergate (ugh, that is probably the first time I’ve typed that out in 6+ months) happened and he saw a recruiting opportunity.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:19:15pm

re: #17 bratwurst

Quick update: made it to the airport without any problem, 47 minutes from hanging up phone with taxi to clearing security, doesn’t get easier than that! Made it here to lounge totally on my own steam, enjoying adult beverage!

Hooray! I hope the flight is equally smooth and you’re able to enjoy some sunny weather.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:26:23pm
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Ace-o-aces  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:27:55pm

OFFS:

They where released in less than a day, unharmed. And notice Trump asks what would happen to Russian sailors, because he has a huge man-crush on Putin.

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Black d20  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:28:01pm

re: #29 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

#JeSuisMilo

OFFS

You really can just get a taste for how deep his ego is, and how badly his fee-fees are hurt.

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lawhawk  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:29:25pm

re: #30 Ace-o-aces

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Great White Snark  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:30:07pm

re: #30 Ace-o-aces

OFFS:

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They where released in less than a day, unharmed. And notice Trump asks what would happen to Russian sailors, because he has a huge man-crush on Putin.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:30:14pm

re: #16 Csarneson

To say those tweets are “blatant” is not something I can agree with.

And you’re still distorting what I wrote.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:30:48pm
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D_Red  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:30:54pm

Christ, that hair is a war crime.

The dude making these tweets is doing so in response to people sending violent tweets to Milo. He’s saying that twitter not upholding it’s anti-threat policy is going to result in violence…but violence towards Milo. That’s why Milo is retweeting him. And probably also to bait people like you into condemning the call for violence, so that Milo can say “look, even Charles Johnson is demanding that twitter uphold it’s harassment policy when it comes to my critics.”

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Kragar  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:33:28pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:33:35pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Zooming in on the banner:

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Black d20  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:35:34pm

re: #36 D_Red

Okay, upon looking at it that way you might have a point. As much as I despise Milo (yes, I remember the Shaun King debacle, even if it turned out that King is really not very trustworthy after all) I don’t want to see the dude harmed — humiliated, discredited, and thoroughly shamed, but not harmed. He still needs to get gone from Twitter, and if others have violated the TOS venting their spleens at him they can join him on having the door hit ‘em on the way out.

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gocart mozart  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:36:17pm

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

Who are the turncoats, the confederates who took up arms against the U.S. or the people who voted to remove the confederate flag? I’m guessing the latter.

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nines09  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:36:26pm

re: #30 Ace-o-aces

They would have launched the New Improved Marvelous Putin Assault Attack Putin…
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lawhawk  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:36:28pm

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s some serious cognitive dissonance there. Turncoats and flying the flag of secessionists who purposefully shed blood in furtherance of an insurrection against the Union?

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:36:44pm

re: #36 D_Red

Ok, pet peeve here, sorry. I’d let it slide if it only happened once, but it happened twice.

It’s = it is.

Its = possessive.

I always read out the contraction in my head to help remind myself which goes where when.

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Kragar  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:39:17pm

For those of you who might need an alternative method for convincing your significant others to see the Deadpool movie:

Deadpool (2016) Romance/Drama Movie Trailer
Deadpool (2016) Romance/Drama Movie Trailer

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:39:54pm

re: #17 bratwurst

Quick update: made it to the airport without any problem, 47 minutes from hanging up phone with taxi to clearing security, doesn’t get easier than that! Made it here to lounge totally on my own steam, enjoying adult beverage!

Good luck on the rest of the flight and trip.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:39:58pm

re: #36 D_Red

Maybe. But I think it’s more likely he’s saying someone will take violent action against Twitter in retaliation.

Either way, it’s deranged, because it’s Milo’s followers who frequently post threats of rape and violence against the women he harasses.

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D_Red  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:40:15pm

re: #43 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Yeah, I know.

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Snarknado!  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:41:23pm

re: #43 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Me too. I also.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:41:53pm

This post at Medium has quite a few examples of the kinds of threats Milo’s followers often direct at the women he targets:

medium.com

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scottslemmons  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:42:38pm

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

Zooming in on the banner:

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Republicans are so fucking weird.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:44:10pm

re: #39 Black d20

Okay, upon looking at it that way you might have a point. As much as I despise Milo (yes, I remember the Shaun King debacle, even if it turned out that King is really not very trustworthy after all) I don’t want to see the dude harmed — humiliated, discredited, and thoroughly shamed, but not harmed. He still needs to get gone from Twitter, andf others have violated the TOS venting their spleens at him they can join him on having the door hit ‘em on the way out.

I haven’t seen anyone threaten to harm Milo. Not saying it hasn’t happened, but I have seen many of Milo’s followers threaten to harm women he targets.

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:44:20pm

re: #30 Ace-o-aces

I remember what Turkey did to a Russian pilot who invaded their airspace. I guess Trump would prefer that.

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451_Montag  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:45:06pm
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Real kite

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:46:06pm

re: #53 451_Montag

Send sugar free gummi bears

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D_Red  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:47:27pm

re: #46 Charles Johnson

If you look at Arthur’s timeline, the tweet that sets him off is a tweet someone sent to Milo telling Milo that he hoped he “burned to death, in an agonizing inferno, screaming in terror”. Milo wants people to think he didn’t lose his precious check because of his incredibly shitty behavior, but because twitter is biased against brave conservative truth tellers like him. And so he’s claiming that twitter doesn’t take action against people who threaten him. Which is probably true for the most part. The truth is that twitter doesn’t have the money or the manpower to ban everyone who wishes someone else burns to death-they’d have to ban a good chunk of Milo’s fanbase.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:49:48pm

re: #35 Backwoods_Sleuth

False Flag! Although thare’s nothing wrong with Confed flag it was Heritage and libtards are two politically correctness.

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:50:14pm

So, is TRUMP® going to allow that plane with the Star and Bars to continue to fly around? He always says he doesn’t like losers.

Watch him get around that somehow and mention the plane and flag in some manner to kiss the ass of the South Carolina “civil war ain’t over…the South will rise again” rednecks. His whole campaign is going after bottom feeders…so how will he cater to the rebels?

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wrenchwench  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:50:27pm

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

Zooming in on the banner:

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I couldn’t make that out. But I’m pretty sure my first interpretation is wrong.

NO VOTES FOR TA NEHISI COATES

i could see they left the ‘E’ out of ‘Coates’.

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BeachDem  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:51:15pm

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

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No votes for turncoats? What is that even supposed to mean? (I live in South by dog Carolina and I don’t get it.)

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Joe Bacon  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:51:16pm

OK looks like Daleidan and Ginger Snapped are gonna get smacked down real good!

Planned Parenthood has filed a lawsuit against the Center for Medical Progress — the anti-abortion group behind a series of “sting videos” targeting the reproductive health organization — alleging that the group violated the Racketeer Influence and Corrupt Organization Act (RICO Act) and engaged in wire fraud, mail fraud, invasion of privacy, illegal secret recording, and trespassing.

talkingpointsmemo.com

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ausador  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:51:30pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:52:55pm

re: #59 BeachDem

No votes for turncoats? What is that even supposed to mean? (I live in South by dog Carolina and I don’t get it.)

Ms. Nikki done pissed off the good ol’ Johnny Rebs. She ain’t geeeeting re’lected ev’r ‘gin!

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:52:56pm

re: #55 D_Red

That tweet is from a very obvious shitposting troll, by the way, with about 50 followers. When Milo directs his followers to harass someone, they get buried in hatred and threats.

(I know this from personal experience.)

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Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:54:12pm

If a Twitter Terrorist turns to violence, does he have to seal the deal with 140 rounds or less?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:54:21pm
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Not a Sparkly Vampire  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:55:06pm

All of this over a god damned checkmark?
Fucking insane.

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wrenchwench  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:56:06pm

re: #66 Not a Sparkly Vampire

All of this over a god damned checkmark?
Fucking insane.

Antisocial media.

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BeachDem  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:56:17pm

re: #62 ObserverArt

Ms. Nikki done pissed off the good ol’ Johnny Rebs. She ain’t geeeeting re’lected ev’r ‘gin!

Well, she’s term-limited as governor, so I guess they won’t vote her when she runs for ???

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:56:41pm
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Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:57:04pm

re: #68 BeachDem

Well, she’s term-limited as governor, so I guess they won’t vote her when she runs for ???

the border.

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Kragar  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:57:58pm
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Kryptik  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:58:10pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That is one amazing, unintentional visual metaphor.

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Kilroy01  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:58:15pm

And don’t forget!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2016 • 12:58:32pm

heh

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:00:08pm

re: #68 BeachDem

Well, she’s term-limited as governor, so I guess they won’t vote her when she runs for ???

They probably think she is going to be someone’s VP pick and so that person will get no votes.

I also think they are pissed off at anyone that wanted that flag taken down this past summer. Right now I can’t remember which of the car clown candidates took a stand against the flag…but the Rebs are probably keeping count and no votes for them!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:00:43pm

and….they’re off and running!!!

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wrenchwench  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:02:33pm

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

and….they’re off and running digging!!!

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And barking their shins on the shovels as they run.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:02:44pm

re: #71 Kragar

Head of Trump’s veterans group visited Oregon militia & praised their effort against “thug-like, terroristic” feds: t.co
— Catherine Thompson

Smart, rational take.

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jaunte  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:03:37pm

re: #38 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I encourage all confederate sympathizers to boycott the polling booth.

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BeachDem  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:04:23pm

So, the loons are in Charleston today for their big debate, then they head up here to Myrtle Beach for the Tea Party hootenanny this weekend.

The Dems head for Charleston for the weekend—several daytime events and the JJ Dinner and Clyburn Fish Fry Saturday night, then the Dem Debate Sunday night. I was going to go, but didn’t get a debate ticket and figured I had better things to spend $500-$750 on than what the weekend in Charleston would probably cost.

Here’s what I’m doing this weekend:

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Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:05:05pm

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

and….they’re off and running!!!

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Rabid birther’s are some crazy shits, and the TPGOP tried to turn them into housepets. Scroo’m.

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lawhawk  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:05:40pm

re: #74 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Lidane  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:06:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:07:44pm

re: #80 BeachDem

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Black d20  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:09:17pm

re: #51 Charles Johnson

I believe you, just the sort to say what’s good for Peter’s good for Paul as well (in terms of account whacking).

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wrenchwench  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:12:19pm

re: #83 Lidane

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The GOP has Trump smeared all over them and they can’t get it off.

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Black d20  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:13:20pm

re: #86 wrenchwench

For a moment it almost seemed like they were gonna fight him. I wonder what dirt (and money) he has on the key players to make them so docile nowadays.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:16:20pm

Man Milo is such a mental toddler.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:17:43pm

re: #83 Lidane

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I’ll miss him. I don’t think Schumer will be as good at trolling them as Reid was.

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wrenchwench  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:18:57pm

re: #87 Black d20

For a moment it almost seemed like they were gonna fight him. I wonder what dirt (and money) he has on the key players to make them so docile nowadays.

The ‘Stabbies’ (GOP establishment) have underestimated their right wing, and avoided responsibility for it, since the Tea Party came to town. Maybe way earlier than that, but while the Stabbies were ignoring their right wing, it was growing and feeling desperate from demographic changes happening around them.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:18:57pm

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

and….they’re off and running!!!

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Yeah but conservatives aren’t racists or bigots. This is your ideology, Marco, don’t you just feel welcome!

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:19:40pm

I keep getting confused. Who are the GOP candidates running against again? I didn’t realize Barack Obama was one the GOP presidential contenders.

Oh that’s right. The GOP decides who drums up the best hate for the current office holder is the best candidate for the actual presidential run. It never is about policy, direction of the country, helping the people be all they can be and all that good stuff.

Hate on GOP…hate on!

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:19:41pm

re: #85 Black d20

I believe you, just the sort to say what’s good for Peter’s good for Paul as well (in terms of account whacking).

Obviously, they can’t police every one of their 320 million users; I think it makes more sense for Twitter to focus on abuse from high-profile users like Milo instead of anonymous trolls with a dozen followers, because when Milo calls out his army of ~150,000 followers the onslaught of threats and abuse is really terrifying to many people, especially newbies. This kind of mass targeted abuse is what really damages Twitter’s reputation and ability to attract new users.

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Lidane  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:20:30pm

You knew this was inevitable:

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withak  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:21:15pm

re: #94 Lidane

You knew this was inevitable:

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I need to watch that movie again.

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nines09  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:21:36pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sums it all up in one picture.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:23:38pm

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

and….they’re off and running!!!

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Someone needs to take this sign

and put Cruz’s face on the man and Rubio’s face on the child.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:24:38pm

re: #87 Black d20

For a moment it almost seemed like they were gonna fight him. I wonder what dirt (and money) he has on the key players to make them so docile nowadays.

He completely owns their party’s base. They either play along, leave the party or watch it be destroyed while they’re still in it. Most of them are still in denial, bargaining for time and praying that the primary elections don’t turn out the way they will. Once the convention hits they’ll be forced to accept reality and pick a side, until then it’s just the seven stages of grief.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:25:19pm

By the way, one of the pioneers of mass targeted abuse on Twitter was the founder of the site Milo writes for, Breitbart “News.” Andrew was notorious for this, frequently retweeting his critics so his thousands of followers would heap abuse on them.

Andrew used to do this to me frequently; I actually developed some scripts to quickly block large numbers of right wing flying monkeys because of Breitbart’s nasty little tactic. Now people like Milo and Adam Baldwin and other right wing hacks are carrying on the tradition.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:26:59pm

re: #99 Charles Johnson

By the way, one of the pioneers of mass targeted abuse on Twitter was the founder of the site Milo writes for, Breitbart “News.” Andrew was notorious for this, frequently retweeting his critics so his thousands of followers would heap abuse on them.

Andrew used to do this to me frequently; I actually developed some scripts to quickly block large numbers of right wing flying monkeys because of Breitbart’s nasty little tactic. Now people like Milo and Adam Baldwin and other right wing hacks are carrying on the tradition.

That’s exactly why I had to laugh when Breitbart was eulogized as this sort of playing off my username “Happy Warrior” type. No, he was a bitter, abusive, and angry drug addict. It’s sad that he died but he was not a good person and political discusison is better off without him though his legacy of Ragegasms lives on in guys like Little Ben Shapiro, Nero, and Chucky.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:27:05pm
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wrenchwench  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:27:59pm

re: #98 goddamnedfrank

until then it’s just the seven stages of grief.

They’re already stuck on ‘denial’.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:28:00pm

Not to mention twitchy.com, whose entire reason for existing is to incite right wing pile-ons on Twitter.

This mass targeted abuse tactic seems to be almost exclusively a right wing thing - I don’t know of any liberal Twitter user who does this.

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TedStriker  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:28:24pm

re: #94 Lidane

You knew this was inevitable:

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SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:28:58pm

I do think it’s funny when Trump is busting on somebody like Haley and reminds you when she was in his office asking for money.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:30:28pm

re: #102 wrenchwench

They’re already stuck on ‘denial’.

Yes, for some reason anger against what the base supports didn’t focus test well with the base.

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nines09  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:30:38pm

re: #98 goddamnedfrank

The GOP knows the Convention will be brokered and it will not be pretty. If Democrats in states where primaries are open and are good with either HRC or Bernie vote for Trump in numbers…..Hoo boy. I just did a quick count. 19 states have open primaries.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:32:52pm

re: #105 SteveMcGaziBolaGate RN

I do think it’s funny when Trump is busting on somebody like Haley and reminds you when she was in his office asking for money.

A lot of them were which is why I don’t have any sympathy for the GOP establishment. They were fine with Trump.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:33:13pm

re: #107 nines09

The GOP knows the Convention will be brokered and it will not be pretty. If Democrats in states where primaries are open and are good with either HRC or Bernie vote for Trump in numbers…..Hoo boy. I just did a quick count. 19 states have open primaries.

I’m not at all sure it will be brokered. I think Trump will take the nomination. Even if it is brokered the GOP leadership will destroy the party permanently if they give the nomination to someone other than the plurality delegate holder, which will definitely be Trump.

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WhatEVs  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:33:24pm

re: #76 Backwoods_Sleuth

and….they’re off and running!!!

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Rubio’s parents weren’t citizens when he was born here? Was one a citizen?

If this is the case, sorry, he is definitely not eligible in my eyes.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:33:59pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Not to mention twitchy.com, whose entire reason for existing is to incite right wing pile-ons on Twitter.

This mass targeted abuse tactic seems to be almost exclusively a right wing thing - I don’t know of any liberal Twitter user who does this.

Malkin herself organized harassment of a child because seh didn’t like him testifying for health insurance for children. I don’t care how you feel about an issue. Harassing a child over it is wrong and Malkin showed again what an ugly person she is in that chapter.

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wrenchwench  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:34:53pm

re: #109 goddamnedfrank

I’m not at all sure it will be brokered. I think Trump will take the nomination. Even if it is brokered the GOP leadership will destroy the party permanently if they give the nomination to someone other than the plurality delegate holder, which will definitely be Trump.

I find myself in denial about a Trump victory.

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nines09  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:37:21pm

re: #109 goddamnedfrank

I’m not sure what will happen either, but they are preparing for it. Trump has a choke hold, they hate Cruz with a passion and everyone else is just burning money. It will be a joy to watch.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:37:52pm

So why does Twitter allow Milo to promote violence while tweeting? Where is Twitter’s responsibility to squelch all of this? Are they going to wait until someone is actually killed and the killing can be linked to a Milo-related tweet?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:40:17pm

A lot of people myself included expected Trump would implode but I think ultimately he hasn’t for a couple reasons- Resources, Trump doesn’t have to worry about running out of money and secondly bite, he fights back, the guy is an asshole of course but he knows the GOP establishment fighting him are hypocrites and he’s willing to tell the GOP electorate that while they try to cripple his candidacy.

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:40:51pm

re: #109 goddamnedfrank

I’m not at all sure it will be brokered. I think Trump will take the nomination. Even if it is brokered the GOP leadership will destroy the party permanently if they give the nomination to someone other than the plurality delegate holder, which will definitely be Trump.

I get the feeling it is going this way too. I think the GOP has come to grips all their other candidates have been trumped. They must be thinking if they can get Trump in as a Republican they can influence him some and it would all be better than another Democrat.

Problem is…I don’t think Trump is clearly defined yet what he will really be like as a Republican president, what his real policies are and what his real plans for the country’s future are. He is a risk for all.

And if anyone thinks they can control The Donald™…well good luck with that.

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Fourth Football of the Apocalypse  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:41:52pm

re: #115 HappyWarrior

the guy is an asshole

Ah, that right there. Yes, I believe we have identified the secret of Trump’s success. Jeb has money, but not a big enough AHole.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:43:37pm

Meanwhile, a communique from Moon Base Freedom has arrived

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:43:43pm

I suppose Milo’s threatening tweets can be reported to Twitter here.
support.twitter.com

I don’t tweet, however, and won’t do so to avoid a-holes like Milo and his minions.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:43:56pm

re: #117 Fourth Football of the Apocalypse

Ah, that right there. Yes, I believe we have identified the secret of Trump’s success. Jeb has money, but not a big enough AHole.

Right, it pays to be a huge asshole with lots of money to GOP voters.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:44:25pm

re: #118 FormerDirtDart

Meanwhile, a communique from Moon Base Freedom has arrived

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What abuse?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:44:49pm

re: #118 FormerDirtDart

Meanwhile, a communique from Moon Base Freedom has arrived

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Kiss my ass, Newt, I wonder how long they would have stayed captive if your sorry ass were President. Somehow I think a lot longer than they were. But go ahead tell us more when the Obama State Dep’t doll touched you.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:45:15pm

re: #121 Patricia Kayden

What abuse?

Coffee, no French vanilla creamer.

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nines09  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:46:54pm

re: #115 HappyWarrior

Right now Trump is on every show, every news service, every radio. He’s gotten billions of dollars in free adverts. He can play that “outsider” card because he never really held office. That’s the lure. He’s not inside the Beltway. He’s rich (which in Wingnuttia means you are a Saint) and he’s got the hard guy BS running. You just have to ignore reality, which the right wing base does every minute of every day. The GOP is absolutely besides themselves that Trump hijacked their sleek slick hate machine.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:47:35pm

re: #116 ObserverArt

They must be thinking if they can get Trump in as a Republican they can influence him some and it would all be better than another Democrat.

Problem is…I don’t think Trump is clearly defined yet what he will really be like as a Republican president, what his real policies are and what his real plans for the country’s future are. He is a risk for all.

And if anyone thinks they can control The DonaldTM…well good luck with that.

They are fucking high if they think they can control or steer him in any direction. Trump is a narcissistic psychopath and only cares about the daily ego feedings provided by his cult of personality. He’s already got a built in excuse for losing the general election, the “illegal” votes of “anchor babies.” When that happens he will be the first presidential candidate to call for a violent overthrow of the government.

Dude has no brakes, no compunction, no sense of decency whatsoever. It’s all been one long downhill slide and so far he’s still nowhere near rock bottom.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:48:13pm

re: #110 WhatEVs

Rubio’s parents weren’t citizens when he was born here? Was one a citizen?

If this is the case, sorry, he is definitely not eligible in my eyes.

Lets not go overboard here. Marco was born in Miami, Fl. therefore he is by right of birth, a United States citizen.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:48:36pm

re: #124 nines09

Right now Trump is on every show, every news service, every radio. He’s gotten billions of dollars in free adverts. He can play that “outsider” card because he never really held office. That’s the lure. He’s not inside the Beltway. He’s rich (which in Wingnuttia means you are a Saint) and he’s got the hard guy BS running. You just have to ignore reality, which the right wing base does every minute of every day. The GOP is absolutely besides themselves that Trump hijacked their sleek slick hate machine.

Good points.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:49:07pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:49:33pm

re: #110 WhatEVs

Rubio’s parents weren’t citizens when he was born here? Was one a citizen?

If this is the case, sorry, he is definitely not eligible in my eyes.

He would be a natural born citizen. I have to assume the Rubios were though by his birth since they came here pre-Castro and Marco was born in 1971. He’s a prick but he’s eligible.

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wrenchwench  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:50:23pm

re: #119 Patricia Kayden

I don’t tweet, however, and won’t do so to avoid a-holes like Milo and his minions.

Which is why it is in Twitter’s interest to deal with him promptly. They’re missing out by you times a million who think the same way.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:50:38pm

re: #110 WhatEVs

Rubio’s parents weren’t citizens when he was born here? Was one a citizen?

If this is the case, sorry, he is definitely not eligible in my eyes.

Think your argument through for a moment. You just invalidated NBC status for every so called “anchor baby” born in the US.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:51:21pm

re: #128 FormerDirtDart

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That’s a good question actually. Palin was a huge backer of Haley’s in 2010 but she’like Coulter is in the Trump Camp though I don’t think she’s given a formal endorsement. I don’t like Haley at all but she shows again what a self loathing and hateful person she is with her attacks on Haley. I don’t like Haley either but the reasons aren’t merited in sexism and bigotry like Ann’s are.

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ausador  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:51:44pm

“Amazing,” but not in a good way. :(

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Belafon  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:52:20pm

re: #110 WhatEVs

Rubio’s parents weren’t citizens when he was born here? Was one a citizen?

If this is the case, sorry, he is definitely not eligible in my eyes.

You might want to read the 14th amendment again.

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nines09  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:52:36pm

re: #118 FormerDirtDart

You knew he had to fart eventually.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:52:55pm

re: #131 goddamnedfrank

Think your argument through for a moment. You just invalidated NBC status for every so called “anchor baby” born in the US.

Correct. I have to imagine my mom’s folks or at least my mom’s older aunts and uncles were in the same situation Rubio was in since they were born not long after their parents emigrated. Rubio’s a NBC, a jerk but I don’t see anything not legitimate about his citizenship.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:53:46pm

re: #121 Patricia Kayden

What abuse?

Well, I would guess in Commodore Newt’s eyes, the being directed to kneel with hands on head, the requiring for the female to wear a hijab, making them take of their shoes, and generally being held in the custody of a foreign power because THEY’RE AMERICANS BY GOD

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:56:04pm

re: #137 FormerDirtDart

Well, I would guess in Commodore Newt’s eyes, the being directed to kneel with hands on head, the requiring for the female to wear a hijab, making them take of their shoes, and generally being held in the custody of a foreign power because THEY’RE AMERICANS BY GOD

Honestly, I’d like to ask anyone bitching about the Iranians doing what they did to ask themselves how they’d feel if an Iranian vessel was in our waters. I’m sorry but this America fuck yeah double standard pisses me off and it’s a good way of alienating allies and potential allies. It’s a damn good thing that someone like Kerry is in charge of the State Department rather than a warmongreling hack like Bolton

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makeitstop  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:56:26pm

re: #109 goddamnedfrank

I’m not at all sure it will be brokered. I think Trump will take the nomination. Even if it is brokered the GOP leadership will destroy the party permanently if they give the nomination to someone other than the plurality delegate holder, which will definitely be Trump.

You say that like it’s a bad thing.

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BeachDem  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:58:23pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Not to mention twitchy.com, whose entire reason for existing is to incite right wing pile-ons on Twitter.

This mass targeted abuse tactic seems to be almost exclusively a right wing thing - I don’t know of any liberal Twitter user who does this.

But, but remember, back in the early days of Twitter Gulag, Twitchy Michelle said,

The Left wants to wear down conservatives until they crawl away defeated, tails between their battered and bloody legs. Silencing the Right is not enough; they want conservatives to disappear from the public sphere. We hope these Twitter vigilantes aren’t holding their breath—conservatives don’t retreat, we reload.

Sorry to re-post this—I just think it is such a melodramatic piece o’shit, I laugh every time I see it.

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makeitstop  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:58:50pm

re: #121 Patricia Kayden

What abuse?

They fed them. Newtie hates Iranian food.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2016 • 1:59:41pm

re: #141 makeitstop

They fed them. Newtie hates Iranian food.

Little juice boxes and tiny apples.
TEH HORRORS!!11!!!

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:00:23pm

re: #126 Bubblehead II

Lets not go overboard here. Marco was born in Miami, Fl. therefore he is by right of birth, a United States citizen.

Not in Trump’s eyes and therefore not in the eyes of all the Trump supporters. He has already convinced them “anchor babies” are wrong for this country and they are nothing but immigrants.

Legally you are right. But in this go-round this is a massive strike to Rubio.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:01:39pm

re: #138 HappyWarrior

Honestly, I’d like to ask anyone bitching about the Iranians doing what they did to ask themselves how they’d feel if an Iranian vessel was in our waters. I’m sorry but this America fuck yeah double standard pisses me off and it’s a good way of alienating allies and potential allies. It’s a damn good thing that someone like Kerry is in charge of the State Department rather than a warmongreling hack like Bolton

That’s what I keep asking them when they tweet stupid shit like that.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:02:17pm

re: #110 WhatEVs

Rubio’s parents weren’t citizens when he was born here? Was one a citizen?

If this is the case, sorry, he is definitely not eligible in my eyes.

According to two heads of the Office of the Solicitor General, both Rubio and Cruz are eligible:
Harvard Law Review Forum: On the Meaning of “Natural Born Citizen”

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:04:52pm

re: #140 BeachDem

But, but remember, back in the early days of Twitter Gulag, Twitchy Michelle said,

The Left wants to wear down conservatives until they crawl away defeated, tails between their battered and bloody legs. Silencing the Right is not enough; they want conservatives to disappear from the public sphere. We hope these Twitter vigilantes aren’t holding their breath—conservatives don’t retreat, we reload.

Sorry to re-post this—I just think it is such a melodramatic piece o’shit, I laugh every time I see it.

They think we obsess over them like they do over us. I was reading an article the other day but conservatives and Republicans tend to project partisanship on to liberals and Democrats more than vice versa. I’ve even seen that here sometimes with some of our few dyed in the wool conservative Republicans.

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:04:53pm

re: #131 goddamnedfrank

Think your argument through for a moment. You just invalidated NBC status for every so called “anchor baby” born in the US.

As I just posted…anchor babies are a big no-no with the Trump supporters. He has already made that a big thing in his campaign. So in this election cycle, if Trump pounds on Rubio being an anchor baby, then legal or not, Rubio is not qualified to run. It has nothing to do with legality. It has everything to do with being coated with Trump slime.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:05:01pm

re: #145 FormerDirtDart

According to two heads of the Office of the Solicitor General, both Rubio and Cruz are eligible:
Harvard Law Review Forum: On the Meaning of “Natural Born Citizen”

“Office of the Solicitor General” That’s a commie Fed .gov position, isn’t it? It thus has no legitimacy.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:05:26pm

re: #143 ObserverArt

Not in Trump’s eyes and therefore not in the eyes of all the Trump supporters. He has already convinced them “anchor babies” are wrong for this country and they are nothing but immigrants.

Legally you are right. But in this go-round this is a massive strike to Rubio.

Oh, I agree. I would lay odds that the yahoo who filed the lawsuit is a tRump supporter.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:05:57pm

re: #144 Eventual Carrion

That’s what I keep asking them when they tweet stupid shit like that.

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Right, honestly given our two nations’ histories, I thought the Iranians handled it quite well and I think the families and the sailors themselves would agree. Of course, Newt has never served in the military or been commander in chief of one.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:06:25pm

re: #150 HappyWarrior

Right, honestly given our two nations’ histories, I thought the Iranians handled it quite well and I think the families and the sailors themselves would agree. Of course, Newt has never served in the military or been commander in chief of one.

Nor shall he ever be.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:06:29pm

re: #141 makeitstop

They fed them. Newtie hates Iranian food.

His loss. Iranian food is good.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:06:54pm

re: #151 Decatur Deb

Nor shall her ever be.

Yep.

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:09:31pm

re: #149 Bubblehead II

Oh, I agree. I would lay odds that the yahoo who filed the lawsuit is a tRump supporter.

If not the Trump campaign itself. He does threaten to sue a lot of people that “attack”…he can tell you that!

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Great White Snark  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:09:58pm

re: #103 Charles Johnson

Not to mention twitchy.com, whose entire reason for existing is to incite right wing pile-ons on Twitter.

This mass targeted abuse tactic seems to be almost exclusively a right wing thing - I don’t know of any liberal Twitter user who does this.

On a highly related note

Florida Woman Sues Twitter for Giving ISIS a Platform

…Tamara Fields, a Florida woman whose husband was killed in a lone wolf terrorist attack in Jordan, has filed a lawsuit against Twitter, accusing the company of supporting the spread of ISIS by enabling ISIS leaders to recruit and fundraise on its platform. She’s suing for damages.

“Without Twitter,” the suit alleges, “the explosive growth of ISIS over the last few years into the most-feared terrorist group in the world would not have been possible.”

As a company, Twitter strictly forbids users from threatening or promoting terrorism, but that change came only last year when Twitter expanded its definition of “violent threats.” And the company depends on its user base to report such activity, a practice that Fields takes issue with in the suit.

Fields is not only seeking damages in the suit. She’s also urging the court to enter an order declaring that Twitter has violated the Anti-Terrorism Act. If Fields wins, this could be a precedent-setting lawsuit, making Twitter accountable not only to governments looking to contain terrorist speech online, but also liable to families affected by that activity. It would also, no doubt, have implications far beyond Twitter, putting tech companies across Silicon Valley on warning.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:10:58pm

re: #155 Great White Snark

On a highly related note

Florida Woman Sues Twitter for Giving ISIS a Platform

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Might as well sue the estate of Alexander Graham Bell.

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Bubblehead II  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:13:02pm

re: #154 ObserverArt

If not the Trump campaign itself. He does threaten to sue a lot of people that “attack”…he can tell you that!

Well he has been pushing Cruz to go to Court to get a preemptive declaration that he is a NBC so I guess it isn’t too far of a leap to think his campaign might be behind this idiotic stunt.

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wrenchwench  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:13:50pm

re: #156 Decatur Deb

Might as well sue the estate of Alexander Graham Bell.

Let’s re-extinct the passenger pigeon!

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:14:43pm

re: #156 Decatur Deb

Might as well sue the estate of Alexander Graham Bell.

Or Al Gore for inventing the internet.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:15:18pm

re: #159 Eventual Carrion

Or Al Gore for inventing the internet.

He’s protected by the Tort Claims Act.

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FormerDirtDart  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:15:43pm

re: #156 Decatur Deb

Might as well sue the estate of Alexander Graham Bell.

We should initiate a class action suit for harassment by telemarketers and campaign pollers

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:16:16pm

re: #150 HappyWarrior

Right, honestly given our two nations’ histories, I thought the Iranians handled it quite well and I think the families and the sailors themselves would agree. Of course, Newt has never served in the military or been commander in chief of one.

People like Newt and Joke Scarborough seem to forget that Iran has never come into the U.S., cause a coup of the democratically elected Prime Minister and then install an Iranian puppet monarch.

Let alone all the other stuff they gloss over.

Why should the Iranians trust us or England again?

Obama has done much to get things back in some sense of an order between our two nations. The Republican stooges like Joke and Newt would like to keep the hate going. In a way they are saying go on hate us Iran, and keep attacking us at every turn.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:17:47pm

re: #161 FormerDirtDart

We should initiate a class action suit for harassment by telemarketers and campaign pollers

And college alumni associations.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:17:52pm
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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:20:19pm

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

John Sepulvado ✔ @JohnLGC

.@OPB learned data breach into @Interior is more expansive then we first reported. Pay records, cred crds, SSN’s compromised #bundymilitia

5:09 PM - 14 Jan 2016

They sure are racking up the offenses against the government and private individuals.

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Charles Johnson  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:21:09pm

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

These guys are going to end up in jail for a long time.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:21:46pm

re: #162 ObserverArt

People like Newt and Joke Scarborough seem to forget that Iran has never come into the U.S., cause a coup of the democratically elected Prime Minister and then install an Iranian puppet monarch.

Let alone all the other stuff they gloss over.

Why should the Iranians trust us or England again?

Obama has done much to get things back in some sense of an order between our two nations. The Republican stooges like Joke and Newt would like to keep the hate going. In a way they are saying go on hate us Iran, and keep attacking us at every turn.

Right and the actions in 1953 caused a lot of damage to US-Iranian relations. if you’re going to support a foreign policy that does shit like that, don’t be surprised if that nation is hostile. Honestly, Obama’s done wonders improving relations with Iran and Cuba. Of course, to some that’s not a good thing but it is ultimately IMO since it’s better to be on talking terms and thus engaged rather than isolated.

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Lidane  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:22:10pm

Whoever did this is my hero:

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Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:26:05pm

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

OPB learned data breach into @Interior is more expansive then we first reported. Pay records, cred crds, SSN’s compromised

Quick, get them Barrett Brown’s lawyer!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:28:18pm

re: #165 ObserverArt

re: #166 Charles Johnson

And this is also happening:

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Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:30:05pm

re: #170 Backwoods_Sleuth

And this is also happening:

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Sovereigns have a mania about license plates. They make their own, or buy them from Cafe Press.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:30:20pm

O_o

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TedStriker  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:33:24pm

re: #146 HappyWarrior

They think we obsess over them like they do over us. I was reading an article the other day but conservatives and Republicans tend to project partisanship on to liberals and Democrats more than vice versa. I’ve even seen that here sometimes with some of our few dyed in the wool conservative Republicans.

It’s “they’re all alike” syndrome with them.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:33:50pm

re: #172 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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He really is a confused little man. One moment he wants to be a non-interventionist like Daddy Paul and the other he wants to sound like Dick Cheney. Rand’s got no principles. It’s no wonder why there’s stories that his relationship’s with his Dad is strained.

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Lidane  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:35:33pm

re: #172 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is one of those stopped clock moments. Rand is correct, in a sense. Terrorism is a tactic that’s most often used by weak, stateless groups that are out-manned and out-gunned by the actual military of whatever country they’re in.

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Whack-A-Mole  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:35:54pm

re: #44 Kragar

I’ve never really been a fan of the character, but I’m absolutely loving the marketing campaign for the movie. I think it’s a perfect fit.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:37:01pm

HBO has the new Mad Max movie at the same time as the debate. Do I want to see apeshit mutants running wild over a burnt-out hellscape, or do I want to watch Fury Road?

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WhatEVs  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:38:59pm

re: #131 goddamnedfrank

Think your argument through for a moment. You just invalidated NBC status for every so called “anchor baby” born in the US.

Is that what the rulings are? If you were born her then you’re good? It seems like all the discussion the last nine years were all about parents and their status. McCain was born outside of the US to two American citizens. Obama was born in HI. Both were challenged (yes, by crazy people, agreed).

What if Rubio’s parents were here illegally (which I am not implying)? That is what’s considered an “anchor baby” and wouldn’t every Republican be throwing a fit? When you are from Cuba, all you have to do is touch sand and you’re here.

Is the purpose of the NBC requirement a matter of allegiance?

Perhaps my blinders are on, because I don’t feel a lot of people have allegiance to America or Americans…their allegiance is to unbridled capitalism.

If it makes me sound racist (or nationalist or whichever ist this fits) for having concerns about allegiance, I guess I am then, because I have concerns about allegiance - for anyone coming from anywhere if the parents aren’t citizens and they are first generation born.

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:39:21pm

re: #177 Decatur Deb

HBO has the new Mad Max movie at the same time as the debate. Do I want to see apeshit mutants running wild over a burnt-out hellscape, or do I want to watch Fury Road?

Mad Trump vs. Mad Max.

Hmmm. Max is weak…no endurance…this I can tell you.

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Whack-A-Mole  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:40:27pm

re: #118 FormerDirtDart

It’s really amazing that the same folks who are outraged at the Iranians briefly detaining our armed sailors crossing their border are the same people that want to drone strike 6-year old girls for crossing ours.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:40:49pm

re: #178 WhatEVs

Is that what the rulings are? If you were born her then you’re good? It seems like all the discussion the last nine years were all about parents and their status. McCain was born outside of the US to two American citizens. Obama was born in HI. Both were challenged (yes, by crazy people, agreed).

What if Rubio’s parents were here illegally (which I am not implying)? That is what’s considered an “anchor baby” and wouldn’t every Republican be throwing a fit? When you are from Cuba, all you have to do is touch sand and you’re here.

Is the purpose of the NBC requirement a matter of allegiance?

Perhaps my blinders are on, because I don’t feel a lot of people have allegiance to America or Americans…their allegiance is to unbridled capitalism.

If it makes me sound racist (or nationalist or whichever ist this fits) for having concerns about allegiance, I guess I am then, because I have concerns about allegiance - for anyone coming from anywhere if the parents aren’t citizens and they are first generation born.

ummm…you have described my mother’s birthright.

just wow.

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makeitstop  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:41:45pm

I don’t know if this has been posted, but it’s a fine read. A former staffer and speechwriter for Reagan and Bushes I and II tells why he will never vote for Trump for president.

Mr. Trump’s presence in the 2016 race has already had pernicious effects, but they’re nothing compared with what would happen if he were the Republican standard-bearer. The nominee, after all, is the leader of the party; he gives it shape and definition. If Mr. Trump heads the Republican Party, it will no longer be a conservative party; it will be an angry, bigoted, populist one. Mr. Trump would represent a dramatic break with and a fundamental assault on the party’s best traditions.

The Republican Party’s best traditions, of course, have not always been evident. (The same is true of the Democratic Party, by the way.) Over the years we have seen antecedents of today’s Trumpism both on issues and in style — for example, in Pat Buchanan’s presidential campaigns in the 1990s, in Sarah Palin’s rise in the party, in the reckless rhetoric of some on the right like Ann Coulter.

The sentiments animating these individuals have had influence in the party, and in recent years growing influence. But they have not been dominant and they have certainly never been in control. Mr. Trump’s securing the Republican nomination would change all that. Whatever problems one might be tempted to lay at the feet of the Republican Party, Donald Trump is in a different and more destructive category.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:42:41pm

re: #165 ObserverArt

I’d bet that at least one of their lawyers will try “no one was stopping us so the obvious implication is that we had permission.”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:43:09pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

ummm…you have described my mother’s birthright.

just wow.

And here I thought we were a nation of immigrants and took pride in that.

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wrenchwench  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:44:26pm

re: #178 WhatEVs

I’ll let this speak for me:

Yet, the fact that we give such citizenship is one of our strengths, not a weakness. Whether we give citizenship at birth or not, the fact remains that these people are born here. They grow up and have their own children. Do we want a permanent underclass — the children or the children of the children of illegal immigrants — who cannot be citizens because of what their parents or grandparents did?

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:44:43pm

re: #183 Jebediah, RBG

I’d bet that at least one of their lawyers will try “no one was stopping us so the obvious implication is that we had permission.”

Being true patriots and shit.

You’re probably right.

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makeitstop  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:45:03pm

re: #178 WhatEVs

Is that what the rulings are? If you were born her then you’re good? It seems like all the discussion the last nine years were all about parents and their status. McCain was born outside of the US to two American citizens. Obama was born in HI. Both were challenged (yes, by crazy people, agreed).

What if Rubio’s parents were here illegally (which I am not implying)? That is what’s considered an “anchor baby” and wouldn’t every Republican be throwing a fit? When you are from Cuba, all you have to do is touch sand and you’re here.

Is the purpose of the NBC requirement a matter of allegiance?

Perhaps my blinders are on, because I don’t feel a lot of people have allegiance to America or Americans…their allegiance is to unbridled capitalism.

If it makes me sound racist (or nationalist or whichever ist this fits) for having concerns about allegiance, I guess I am then, because I have concerns about allegiance - for anyone coming from anywhere if the parents aren’t citizens and they are first generation born.

Birthright Citzenship. As codified by the 14th Amendment, which you’ll remember Republicans want to repeal.

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WhatEVs  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:46:32pm

re: #145 FormerDirtDart

According to two heads of the Office of the Solicitor General, both Rubio and Cruz are eligible:
Harvard Law Review Forum: On the Meaning of “Natural Born Citizen”

I think this is fuzzy:

All the sources routinely used to interpret the Constitution confirm that the phrase “natural born Citizen” has a specific meaning: namely, someone who was a U.S. citizen at birth with no need to go through a naturalization proceeding at some later time. And Congress has made equally clear from the time of the framing of the Constitution to the current day that, subject to certain residency requirements on the parents, someone born to a U.S. citizen parent generally becomes a U.S. citizen without regard to whether the birth takes place in Canada, the Canal Zone, or the continental United States.

The Naturalization Act of 1790 expanded the class of citizens at birth to include children born abroad of citizen mothers as long as the father had at least been resident in the United States at some point. But Congress eliminated that differential treatment of citizen mothers and fathers before any of the potential candidates in the current presidential election were born. Thus, in the relevant time period, and subject to certain residency requirements, children born abroad of a citizen parent were citizens from the moment of birth, and thus are “natural born Citizens.”

As recounted by Justice Joseph Story in his famous Commentaries on the Constitution, the purpose of the natural born Citizen clause was thus to “cut[] off all chances for ambitious foreigners, who might otherwise be intriguing for the office; and interpose[] a barrier against those corrupt interferences of foreign governments in executive elections.” The Framers did not fear such machinations from those who were U.S. citizens from birth just because of the happenstance of a foreign birthplace. Indeed, John Jay’s own children were born abroad while he served on diplomatic assignments, and it would be absurd to conclude that Jay proposed to exclude his own children, as foreigners of dubious loyalty, from presidential eligibility.

This doesn’t address Rubio in any way. It refers, throughout, to citizen parents.

Did you see something in there that I missed?

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wrenchwench  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:47:49pm

re: #185 wrenchwench

Ew, I approvingly quoted a professor at Chapman University School of Law. I think that’s a first.

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Lidane  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:47:57pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:48:17pm

re: #188 WhatEVs

All of that refers to citizenship of someone born outside US territory.

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makeitstop  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:48:23pm

re: #188 WhatEVs

This doesn’t address Rubio in any way. It refers, throughout, to citizen parents.

Did you see something in there that I missed?

Se my comment, just above yours. Birthright citizenship is a Constitutional right.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:48:23pm

re: #178 WhatEVs

Is that what the rulings are? If you were born her then you’re good? It seems like all the discussion the last nine years were all about parents and their status. McCain was born outside of the US to two American citizens. Obama was born in HI. Both were challenged (yes, by crazy people, agreed).

What if Rubio’s parents were here illegally (which I am not implying)? That is what’s considered an “anchor baby” and wouldn’t every Republican be throwing a fit? When you are from Cuba, all you have to do is touch sand and you’re here.

Is the purpose of the NBC requirement a matter of allegiance?

Perhaps my blinders are on, because I don’t feel a lot of people have allegiance to America or Americans…their allegiance is to unbridled capitalism.

If it makes me sound racist (or nationalist or whichever ist this fits) for having concerns about allegiance, I guess I am then, because I have concerns about allegiance - for anyone coming from anywhere if the parents aren’t citizens and they are first generation born.

There’s lots of people like Rubio who are born to foreign born parents who never went back to their homelands. As I got at, my own grandparents were in that situation given their parents’ foreign birth and my grandfather along with three of his brothers and his brother in law ended up serving this country during WWII and in my grandpa’s case, Korea because he was younger.. I really sincerely think you’re letting your dislike of Rubio cloud your opinion here on this matter IMO. Rubio is by the letter of the law eligible for the presidency. Now if you want to say ideologically, I will strongly and 100% agree but i think he is eligible and honestly I have to take issue with questioning his loyalty. Sorry, it rubs me the wrong way when Obama’s is. I think Rubio is an asshole of the highest order too but I don’t see anything that makes me think he’s not loyal to this nation.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:48:31pm

re: #188 WhatEVs

I think this is fuzzy:

This doesn’t address Rubio in any way. It refers, throughout, to citizen parents.

Did you see something in there that I missed?

Maybe the fact that all that stuff is referring to children born abroad?

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scottslemmons  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:48:42pm

The rule is you’re a natural-born citizen if you were born here or if either of your parents was a citizen when you were born. That’s it, nice and simple.

Cruz, Rubio, McCain, and Obama are very definitely natural-born citizens.

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:49:21pm

re: #190 Lidane

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Whatever crazy eyes, you just keep on telling yourself that giving LGBT people rights makes you discriminated against. What a fucking drama queen.

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WhatEVs  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:49:49pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

ummm…you have described my mother’s birthright.

just wow.

And mine.

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WhatEVs  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:51:03pm

re: #185 wrenchwench

I’ll let this speak for me:

But as Congress has recognized since the Founding, a person born abroad to a U.S. citizen parent is generally a U.S. citizen from birth with no need for naturalization. And the phrase “natural born Citizen” in the Constitution encompasses all such citizens from birth. Thus, an individual born to a U.S. citizen parent — whether in California or Canada or the Canal Zone — is a U.S. citizen from birth and is fully eligible to serve as President if the people so choose.

My point is that his parents did not get citizenship. That was stated in the thing that started this and that was my initial question.

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SirMixALot  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:51:08pm

re: #114 Patricia Kayden

So why does Twitter allow Milo to promote violence while tweeting? Where is Twitter’s responsibility to squelch all of this? Are they going to wait until someone is actually killed and the killing can be linked to a Milo-related tweet?

Report him to Twitter. That will help speed up the process of his banning. I’ve already reported him.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:51:33pm

re: #177 Decatur Deb

HBO has the new Mad Max movie at the same time as the debate. Do I want to see apeshit mutants running wild over a burnt-out hellscape, or do I want to watch Fury Road?

Mad Max has better cinematography and costumes, plus the villains articulate most of the same policy positions as the GOP frontrunners.

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:51:46pm

re: #188 WhatEVs

I think this is fuzzy:

This doesn’t address Rubio in any way. It refers, throughout, to citizen parents.

Did you see something in there that I missed?

Yes, Section 1 of the 14th Amendment.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Any person born in the US, with some exceptions for the children of ambassadors and foreign consular staff on assignment in the US, are citizens because they and their parents are subject to the jurisdiction of the US. The reason that children of ambassadors and consular staff aren’t included is because they have diplomatic immunity, which prevents them from being subject to US jurisdiction.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:52:14pm

re: #197 WhatEVs

And mine.

My mother was born in Scranton PA to non-citizen parents.
I really took exception to your suggestion that her allegiance to this country should be in question because she is “first generation”.

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WhatEVs  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:52:56pm

re: #187 makeitstop

Birthright Citzenship. As codified by the 14th Amendment, which you’ll remember Republicans want to repeal.

Ok. I concede.

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Stanley Sea Toujours  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:53:31pm

This. We are finished.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:54:07pm

re: #200 The Ghost of a Flea

Mad Max has better cinematography and costumes, plus the villains articulate most of the same policy positions as the GOP frontrunners.

Yeah, but I’ve always been a fan of Priebus Productions.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:54:58pm

re: #188 WhatEVs

I think this is fuzzy:

This doesn’t address Rubio in any way. It refers, throughout, to citizen parents.

Did you see something in there that I missed?

Citizen parents matters when you are dealing with someone born outside of the US to US citizens. Because otherwise it would suck trying to bring your kid home because they were accidentally born in Japan or whatnot.

In the US, it’s really clear: you’re born here, you’re a citizen. None of this “your parents have to be citizens too or you might have allegiance to another country.” That is one reason why what happened to the Japanese-Americans in WWII is so fucking shitty: some of those were our citizens. (I don’t have the numbers in front of me to say whether or not it was a majority, but let’s be clear: it was not a small number. And it really wasn’t cool to do that to non-citizens either.)

I’m late because my Internet sucked but I’m going to put this up anyway because those questions about “allegiance” are what let some people think that what happened with the internment camps was “okay.”

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wrenchwench  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:55:36pm

re: #204 Stanley Sea Toujours

This. We are finished.

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Paged.

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Slap  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:55:44pm

Whoa. Time to throw in the towel — trump has secured the ULTIMATE ENDORSEMENT (tm):

yahoo.com

How can he lose now?????

/////////////////

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goddamnedfrank  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:56:01pm

re: #198 WhatEVs

My point is that his parents did not get citizenship. That was stated in the thing that started this and that was my initial question.

Yes, they did. They just didn’t have it in hand at the time of his birth. Both of Rubio’s parents naturalized in 1975.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:56:02pm

re: #204 Stanley Sea Toujours

This. We are finished.

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Needs moar Honey Boo Boo.

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The alpuzzzzz from Wisconsin  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:56:52pm

re: #168 Lidane

Didn’t Krager post a link to a 55 gallon drum of lube the other day?

212
Jenner7  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:56:56pm

re: #204 Stanley Sea Toujours

Oh dear baby jeebus..

213
No Country For Old Haters  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:57:53pm

re: #71 Kragar

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makeitstop  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:58:06pm

re: #204 Stanley Sea Toujours

This. We are finished.

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I said it downstairs on the dead thread - the little girl on the right looks like the girls in the ‘Respect Authority’ video.

The song (using the term loosely) has the same clumsy phrasing lyrically as ‘Respect Authority,’ too. I wouldn’t be surprised if those wingnut parents are behind this little slice of horribleness.

ETA: Even the voices sound the same.

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:58:32pm

re: #204 Stanley Sea Toujours

This. We are finished.

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I almost wanted to stand up and salute someone.

Flippin’ the bird is a salute is it not?

And, I hate fascist kids! /

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SirMixALot  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:58:39pm

re: #143 ObserverArt

Not in Trump’s eyes and therefore not in the eyes of all the Trump supporters. He has already convinced them “anchor babies” are wrong for this country and they are nothing but immigrants.

Legally you are right. But in this go-round this is a massive strike to Rubio.

I knew it was only a matter of time before Rubio’s citizenship was questioned like Cruz. Many Cuban-Americans are white, but never white enough for the racists in the GOP. I speak from personal experience as someone with a Cuban a father.

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allegro  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:58:44pm

re: #204 Stanley Sea Toujours

This. We are finished.

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Oh fuck me… what the hell was that?!

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ausador  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:59:01pm
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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2016 • 2:59:34pm

re: #218 ausador

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Not looking good for the establishment.

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gwangung  Jan 14, 2016 • 3:00:19pm

re: #206 klys (maker of Silmarils)

In the US, it’s really clear: you’re born here, you’re a citizen. None of this “your parents have to be citizens too or you might have allegiance to another country.” That is one reason why what happened to the Japanese-Americans in WWII is so fucking shitty: some of those were our citizens. (I don’t have the numbers in front of me to say whether or not it was a majority,

Two thirds were citizens.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 14, 2016 • 3:01:00pm

re: #205 Decatur Deb

I want to say something clever, but my sheer joy from watching Fury Road in the theater is throwing up interference, even months later.

It is so, so pretty. Shiny and chrome.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 14, 2016 • 3:01:10pm

re: #220 gwangung

Two thirds were citizens.

Thank you. I didn’t want to say the wrong number, and my Internet died as I was writing the comment.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 14, 2016 • 3:02:14pm

re: #60 Joe Bacon

OK looks like Daleidan and Ginger Snapped are gonna get smacked down real good!

Planned Parenthood has filed a lawsuit against the Center for Medical Progress — the anti-abortion group behind a series of “sting videos” targeting the reproductive health organization — alleging that the group violated the Racketeer Influence and Corrupt Organization Act (RICO Act) and engaged in wire fraud, mail fraud, invasion of privacy, illegal secret recording, and trespassing.

talkingpointsmemo.com

Er oh. I know from Sons of Anarchy that RICO is bad news!!!

Is PP’s new suit based on the subpoena information Daleiden/CMP was supposed to turn over last month? Did they get names?

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makeitstop  Jan 14, 2016 • 3:02:36pm

re: #215 ObserverArt

Flippin’ the bird is a salute is it not.

Henceforth to be known as the ‘Rand Paul media salute.’

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2016 • 3:02:54pm

re: #220 gwangung

Two thirds were citizens.

What’s amazing to me regarding internment is how the en.wikipedia.org ended up being one of the most decorated units of the war. I mean I have to say if my group had been treated the same way Japanese-Americans were, I don’t know if I would have been so eager to enlist and possibly die for that country.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Jan 14, 2016 • 3:03:52pm

re: #204 Stanley Sea Toujours

This. We are finished.

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Watched it with the audio off. Not quite as creepy as North Korean dance-prop, but close. I love that stilted, awkward white person flavor.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 14, 2016 • 3:04:13pm

re: #225 HappyWarrior

What’s amazing to me regarding internment is how the en.wikipedia.org ended up being one of the most decorated units of the war. I mean I have to say if my group had been treated the same way Japanese-Americans were, I don’t know if I would have been so eager to enlist and possibly die for that country.

Allegiance really talked about that, about the two schools of thought and how it divided families.

It was absolutely heartbreaking and one of the hardest musicals I have ever watched. It should absolutely be required viewing for every citizen.

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Lidane  Jan 14, 2016 • 3:04:46pm

re: #204 Stanley Sea Toujours

Kim Jong Il would be proud.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 14, 2016 • 3:04:46pm

Shouldn’t the Terminal Three be debating now?

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2016 • 3:07:11pm

re: #227 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Allegiance really talked about that, about the two schools of thought and how it divided families.

It was absolutely heartbreaking and one of the hardest musicals I have ever watched. It should absolutely be required viewing for every citizen.

Thanks, I’ll have to see that. It really was one of nation’s most dark hours.

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2016 • 3:07:31pm

Trump is German. Therefore he is a nazI!

///x2

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HappyWarrior  Jan 14, 2016 • 3:07:59pm

re: #231 ObserverArt

Trump is German. Therefore he is a nazI!

///x2

He’s Scottish therefore he’s a drunk who wears a kilt!

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gwangung  Jan 14, 2016 • 3:09:19pm

re: #227 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Allegiance really talked about that, about the two schools of thought and how it divided families.

It was absolutely heartbreaking and one of the hardest musicals I have ever watched. It should absolutely be required viewing for every citizen.

For New York folks, it’s unfortunately closing Feb. 14….but there will be a tour.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Jan 14, 2016 • 3:10:26pm

re: #233 gwangung

For New York folks, it’s unfortunately closing Feb. 14….but there will be a tour.

George Takei is a national treasure.

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ObserverArt  Jan 14, 2016 • 3:10:56pm

re: #229 Decatur Deb

Shouldn’t the Terminal Three be debating now?

Let us know how it is going…I’m going to lurk mode and do some work on This Old House. Back for as much of the Big Shoe as I can take.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jan 14, 2016 • 3:11:44pm

re: #218 ausador

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I saw a poll the other day, I forget who posted it here. They asked likely Republican Primary Voters who they supported and all that, but for me the most interesting response was to whether they thought Donald Trump had the temperament to be President. Only 50% said yes, which seems awfully low for the guy leading the pack.

The others - Cruz, Rubio, etc. - all got at least 69% on that question. So even though he has more support than anyone else, only half the party thinks he would be acceptable as President.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jan 14, 2016 • 3:13:48pm

re: #118 FormerDirtDart

Meanwhile, a communique from Moon Base Freedom has arrived

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Tigger2  Jan 14, 2016 • 3:14:49pm

re: #190 Lidane

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ausador  Jan 14, 2016 • 3:15:52pm

re: #204 Stanley Sea Toujours

This. We are finished.

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Gotta give it to Trump he knows how to suck up all the air in the room, not to mention airtime. That little stunt will probably get him another dozen hours of free broadcast advertising.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 14, 2016 • 3:42:59pm

re: #225 HappyWarrior

What’s amazing to me regarding internment is how the en.wikipedia.org ended up being one of the most decorated units of the war. I mean I have to say if my group had been treated the same way Japanese-Americans were, I don’t know if I would have been so eager to enlist and possibly die for that country.

I know no one will see this with the new thread, but there were the “no-no” boys who were offended by demands that they sign an oath of loyalty to the US and refused to fight. I think there is a split in the Japanese-American community between such families, though by this generation it may not be so pronounced.

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Mike Lamb  Jan 14, 2016 • 3:51:14pm

re: #166 Charles Johnson

These guys are going to end up in jail for a long time.

Unfortunately, they want to be true martyrs. I don’t see this ending well.

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unproven innocence  Jan 14, 2016 • 5:10:14pm

re: #178
WhatEVs

[snip]

Perhaps my blinders are on, because I don’t feel a lot of people have allegiance to America or Americans…their allegiance is to unbridled capitalism.

[snip]

re: #203 WhatEVs

Ok. I concede.

The concerns of many about allegiance —that is right in some ways, and so dreadfully, catastrophically wrong in many other ways.

Because he was Catholic, JFK had a tough campaign. Many thought he might have allegiance to the Pope. I’ve only recently learned of a compelling reason why his presidency was cut short. It has everything to do with what the previous president offered warnings about in his farewell address.

Issues of allegiance are at the heart of some of my favorite tv series: Fringe, The Americans, Person of Interest, Orphan Black, and some others.

I’ll close with a sincere Thank You to Khrushchev for doing the Right Thing™ when JFK phoned him for some serious help with the Cuban crisis, and for his subsequent efforts at reversing the global arms race.


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Sexism in Medicine - Women’s Healthcare Challenges The best day of Starr Mirza's life was the day she went into cardiac arrest. To understand why a then 23-year-old would be overjoyed at a life-threatening condition, one that would require a device to be implanted permanently in ...
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America Isn’t Growing Hostile Towards Christians, It’s Growing Hostile Towards Religious Bullies. Christians are not a marginalized minority in America, but the majority and the ruling class. In fact, some polls show that around 83% of Americans are Christians. That long line of U.S presidents stemming back to the founding of ...
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President Trump Must Ask Congress to Draft Articles of Cyberwar Against Russia - or ElseOn April 27th, 2017, Ars Technica did an in-depth post on how a Russian-controlled telecom hijacked financial services’ Internet traffic: On Wednesday, large chunks of network traffic belonging to MasterCard, Visa, and more than two dozen other financial services companies ...
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