Trump Adviser Accused of Anti-Semitism and Holocaust Denial

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One of Donald Trump’s five foreign policy advisers, Joseph Schmitz, is being accused by senior intelligence and Pentagon officials of antisemitic comments and Holocaust denial.

And the hits just keep on comin’.

The revelations feed two themes that his opponent Hillary Clinton has used to erode Trump’s credibility: That he is a foreign policy neophyte, and that his campaign, at times, has offended Jews and other minorities.

Schmitz, who is a lawyer in private practice in Washington, says the allegations against him are lies. All three people who have cited the remarks, including one who testified under oath about them, have pending employment grievances with the federal government.

Daniel Meyer, a senior official within the intelligence community, described Schmitz’s remarks in his complaint file.

“His summary of his tenure’s achievement reported as ‘…I fired the Jews,’ ” wrote Meyer, a former official in the Pentagon inspector general’s office whose grievance was obtained by McClatchy.

Meyer, who declined to comment about the matter, cited in his complaint another former top Pentagon official, John Crane, as the source and witness to the remarks. Crane worked with Schmitz, who served as inspector general between April 2002 and September 2005.

In his complaint, Meyer said Crane also said Schmitz played down the extent of the Holocaust.

“In his final days, he allegedly lectured Mr. Crane on the details of concentration camps and how the ovens were too small to kill 6 million Jews,” wrote Meyer, whose complaint is before the Merit Systems Protection Board (MSPB).

UPDATE at 8/18/16 1:39:24 pm by Charles Johnson

LGF contributor Nyet has unearthed another interesting fact: Schmitz’s father was a well-known Holocaust denier himself.

UPDATE at 8/18/16 1:52:55 pm by Charles Johnson

Schmitz’s father, John G. Schmitz, may have been the only person ever expelled from the John Birch Society for being too extreme.

UPDATE at 8/18/16 3:09:02 pm by Charles Johnson

This story gets even weirder, because Schmitz’s sister is also notorious: Mary Kay Letourneau.

Mary Kay Fualaau (née Schmitz, formerly Mary Kay Letourneau; born January 30, 1962) is an American former schoolteacher who pleaded guilty to two counts of felony second degree rape of a child, her 12-year-old student, Vili Fualaau. Her plea agreement called for six months in jail, with three months suspended, and no contact with Fualaau for life.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 18, 2016 • 1:30:40pm

His father was one too, Charles. His sister is the teacher who had the child with her sixth grade student. The Schmitz’s are extremely fucked up in so many ways.

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bratwurst  Aug 18, 2016 • 1:32:09pm

But 0bongo threw Israel under teh bus!!!11!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2016 • 1:32:44pm
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Nyet  Aug 18, 2016 • 1:34:43pm

re: #2 Nyet

If you think that Daddy Schmitz was in habit of presenting denier publications to his friends (as Weber claims) but did not try to indoctrinate his son, I have this wee bridge in Brooklyn to sell to you…

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wrenchwench  Aug 18, 2016 • 1:34:51pm

re: #2 Nyet

Context:

Trump, Trutherism, Holocaust Denial: The Toxic Connections

Like father, like son? Holocaust denier Mark Weber praises Schmitz’s daddy.

Now I don’t know whether my flashbacks are from reading that last week or from growing up in Orange County, CA in the 60s and 70s. Probably some of each. Disturbing all over.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 18, 2016 • 1:36:48pm

re: #6 wrenchwench

Now I don’t know whether my flashbacks are from reading that last week or from growing up in Orange County, CA in the 60s and 70s. Probably some of each. Disturbing all over.

It’s pretty scary to think but old man Schmitz would probably be a mainstreamer in today’s GOP.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 18, 2016 • 1:37:05pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 18, 2016 • 1:38:17pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

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Oh look a concerned troll.

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wrenchwench  Aug 18, 2016 • 1:39:08pm

re: #8 HappyWarrior

It’s pretty scary to think but old man Schmitz would probably be a mainstreamer in today’s GOP.

Too far right for the Birchers, but could be a RINO today.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 18, 2016 • 1:39:36pm

re: #11 wrenchwench

Too far right for the Birchers, but could be a RINO today.

Zactly.

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 18, 2016 • 1:43:37pm

re: #1 HappyWarrior

His father was one too, Charles. His sister is the teacher who had the child with her sixth grade student. The Schmitz’s are extremely fucked up in so many ways.

The senior Schmitz was the vice presidential candidate of the American Independent Party, founded by George Wallace in 1968. By the time Schmitz ran, in 1972, Wallace had repudiated the AIP and gone back to the Democrats. He was tossed out of the John Birch Society for “extremism.” Ponder that for a moment.

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Scottishdragon  Aug 18, 2016 • 1:44:32pm

From downstairs…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 18, 2016 • 1:44:55pm

re: #13 Shiplord Kirel

The senior Schmitz was the vice presidential candidate of the American Independent Party, founded by George Wallace in 1968. By the time Schmitz ran, in 1972, Wallace had repudiated the AIP and gone back to the Democrats. He was tossed out of the John Birch Society for “extremism.” Ponder that for a moment.

Yep I had read about that too. Jesus. Kicked out of the JBS for extremism.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 18, 2016 • 1:45:51pm

re: #14 Scottishdragon

From downstairs…

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I thought the young bucks buying t-bones was ‘76 Reagan but still speaking about states rights in Neshoba was one hell of a dog whistle by the Gipper.

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Scottishdragon  Aug 18, 2016 • 1:46:12pm

re: #1 HappyWarrior

His father was one too, Charles. His sister is the teacher who had the child with her sixth grade student. The Schmitz’s are extremely fucked up in so many ways.

So how screwed up is your family when the gal who had 2 kids with one of her students is the least morally challenged of the bunch??!!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 18, 2016 • 1:47:15pm

re: #17 Scottishdragon

So how screwed up is your family when the gal who had 2 kids with one of her students is the least morally challenged of the bunch??!!

Yeah Mary Kay may be the most “normal” in the bunch. Though he has other kids too but damn.

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Scottishdragon  Aug 18, 2016 • 1:49:11pm

re: #16 HappyWarrior

I thought the young bucks buying t-bones was ‘76 Reagan but still speaking about states rights in Neshoba was one hell of a dog whistle by the Gipper.

Yeah…it looks like he used the “welfare queen in a Cadillac” at Neshoba. I will fix that. So hard to keep up with racist memes these days.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2016 • 1:51:03pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 18, 2016 • 1:51:08pm

So OT but I started reading on audible The Warmth of Other Suns. Only a few chapters in but man what an incredible book. I really like books like these that are the tales of regular people but who were part of something large like that. It’s cool. Although, I’m not African-American, one of the ladies that Isabel Wilkerson reminds me of my Nana a little bit, around the same age, lost a parent at a young age, met her husband young, and spent much of her life away from the place of her birth.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 18, 2016 • 1:51:21pm
graphic representation of approval
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HappyWarrior  Aug 18, 2016 • 1:51:47pm

re: #19 Scottishdragon

Yeah…it looks like he used the “welfare queen in a Cadillac” at Neshoba. I will fix that. So hard to keep up with racist memes these days.

Not a problem. I wasn’t trying to nitpick you. I just am a stickler for accuracy and Reagan deserves all the criticism he can get for the race baiting he did.

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TedStriker  Aug 18, 2016 • 1:51:53pm

re: #1 HappyWarrior

His father was one too, Charles. His sister is the teacher who had the child with her sixth grade student. The Schmitz’s are extremely fucked up in so many ways.

Mary Kay Letourneau.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 18, 2016 • 1:52:25pm

re: #24 TedStriker

Mary Kay Letourneau.

Yep.

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Nyet  Aug 18, 2016 • 1:53:28pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

Yep I had read about that too. Jesus. Kicked out of the JBS for extremism.

In Russia we sometimes joke: “Kicked out of Gestapo for ruthlessness.”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 18, 2016 • 1:53:55pm

re: #26 Nyet

In Russia we sometimes joke: “Kicked out of Gestapo for ruthlessness.”

Heh.

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Belafon  Aug 18, 2016 • 1:54:14pm

re: #22 FormerDirtDart

I saw this morning that the stock exchange halted trading on those stocks.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 18, 2016 • 1:54:40pm

Did you guys see that Sessions is using Trump’s response to the Central Park Five as “proof” that Donald’s always been a Law and Order conservative?

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 18, 2016 • 1:56:23pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 18, 2016 • 1:57:06pm

re: #30 goddamnedfrank

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Hahhahaha.

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 18, 2016 • 1:58:07pm

John Schmitz and his wife Mary campaigned vociferously against sex education in the public schools. Mary had her own TV show and was known as the “West Coast Phyllis Schlafly.” All this came to an end when John’s extra-marital affair and extra children came to light in an exceptionally lurid manner in 1982. John steadfastly refused to support the children and refused custody when their mother died in 1994. They were taken in by their mother’s friend, the psychic Jeanne Dixon, then became wards of the state when she, too, died in 1997. Schmitz himself lived 4 more years after that, apparently without the slightest pang of conscience.

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EPR-radar  Aug 18, 2016 • 1:59:11pm

re: #30 goddamnedfrank

Someone in the NYC parks department wants the honor of being second up against the wall if Trump gets elected (The Onion has a lock on being first theonion.com).

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HappyWarrior  Aug 18, 2016 • 1:59:26pm

re: #32 Shiplord Kirel

John Schmitz and his wife Mary campaigned vociferously against sex education in the public schools. Mary had her own TV show and was known as the “West Coast Phyllis Schlafly.” All this came to an end when John’s extra-marital affair and extra children came to light in an exceptionally lurid manner in 1982. John steadfastly refused to support the children and refused custody when their mother died in 1994. They were taken in by their mother’s friend, the psychic Jeanne Dixon, then became wards of the state when she, too, died in 1997. Schmitz himself lived 4 more years after that, apparently without the slightest pang of conscience.

A truly terrible guy.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:00:20pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:00:30pm

Notice the triple parentheses around “they.”

The replies to this tweet from Duke are unbelievably disgusting.

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teleskiguy  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:00:37pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:01:52pm

re: #35 FormerDirtDart

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And shit like this is why Portman deserves to go down with the rest of them. Fucker probably venerates Reagan who actually gave arms to the Iranians.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:02:43pm

re: #36 Charles Johnson

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Notice the triple parentheses around “they.”

The replies to this tweet from Duke are unbelievably disgusting.

Of course.

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Nyet  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:02:47pm

re: #35 FormerDirtDart

They don’t understand what ransom is.

Is this case Iran paid America ransom in form of freeing the Americans.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:02:48pm

Jared and Ivanka are you paying attention?

Didn’t think so.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:04:32pm
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Joe Bacon  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:04:51pm

I still remember what an asshole Old Fart Schmitz was in the California State Senate!

From: en.wikipedia.org

In 1981, Schmitz—who was staunchly pro-life—chaired a committee hearing on abortion. Feminist attorney Gloria Allred testified at the hearing in support of the pro-choice position, and afterward sarcastically presented Schmitz with a black leather chastity belt. Schmitz’s committee then issued a press release under the headline, “Senator Schmitz and His Committee Survive Attack of the Bulldykes”, describing the hearing room as filled with “hard, Jewish and (arguably) female faces.” Allred sued Schmitz for libel, claiming $10 million in damages, but settled for $20,000 and an apology. In his apology, Schmitz stated, “I have never considered her (Allred) to be … a slick, butch lawyeress.” Allred later appeared at a press conference called by Senator Schmitz regarding Mid-East issues, handed Schmitz a box of frogs and shouted, “A plague on the House of Schmitz!”[14]

The incident cost him his committee chairmanship and the John Birch Society stripped him of his membership for “extremism.” Despite this, Schmitz announced plans to run for the Republican nomination for the United States Senate in 1982.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:06:15pm

re: #43 Joe Bacon

I still remember what an asshole Old Fart Schmitz was in the California State Senate!

From: en.wikipedia.org

In 1981, Schmitz—who was staunchly pro-life—chaired a committee hearing on abortion. Feminist attorney Gloria Allred testified at the hearing in support of the pro-choice position, and afterward sarcastically presented Schmitz with a black leather chastity belt. Schmitz’s committee then issued a press release under the headline, “Senator Schmitz and His Committee Survive Attack of the Bulldykes”, describing the hearing room as filled with “hard, Jewish and (arguably) female faces.” Allred sued Schmitz for libel, claiming $10 million in damages, but settled for $20,000 and an apology. In his apology, Schmitz stated, “I have never considered her (Allred) to be … a slick, butch lawyeress.” Allred later appeared at a press conference called by Senator Schmitz regarding Mid-East issues, handed Schmitz a box of frogs and shouted, “A plague on the House of Schmitz!”[14]

The incident cost him his committee chairmanship and the John Birch Society stripped him of his membership for “extremism.” Despite this, Schmitz announced plans to run for the Republican nomination for the United States Senate in 1982.

I get the impression that John Schmitz was a very sexually repressed man just like so many wingnuts like him before and after him.

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thedopefishlives  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:07:30pm

re: #44 HappyWarrior

I get the impression that John Schmitz was a very sexually repressed man just like so many wingnuts like him before and after him.

That’s probably very true.

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The Vicious Babushka  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:09:50pm

WUT

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:11:22pm

Orange County is bad enough today, but in the 60s and 70s, it was a stinking cesspool of right wing lunacy, led by a cabal of rich fascists like sporting goods heir Willard Voit and Carl’s Jr. founder Carl Karcher.

Karcher was a prize specimen himself. He started with a hot dog and tamale stand in Lose Angeles in July, 1941 (5 months before Pearl Harbor) and did well enough to open his first restaurant in January 1945 (4 months before VE Day). He was still in his 20s then and healthy enough to put in some very long hours building what was no doubt a very profitable business in the flush, hurried atmosphere of wartime LA. Yet, he somehow did not end up in military service. He later showed his patriotism by starting board meetings with the Pledge of Allegiance.

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Bubblehead II  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:12:51pm

Heh.

Edit.

Yes, someone went there.

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Nyet  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:15:10pm

re: #48 Bubblehead II

Seen Chucky or Milo around?

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Kragar  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:15:50pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:17:38pm
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wrenchwench  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:17:54pm

re: #47 Shiplord Kirel

Orange County is bad enough today, but in the 60s and 70s, it was a stinking cesspool of right wing lunacy, led by a cabal of rich fascists like sporting goods heir Willard Voit and Carl’s Jr. founder Carl Karcher.

Karcher was a prize specimen himself. He started with a hot dog and tamale stand in Lose Angeles in July, 1941 (5 months before Pearl Harbor) and did well enough to open his first restaurant in January 1945 (4 months before VE Day). He was still in his 20s then and healthy enough to put in some very long hours building what was no doubt a very profitable business in the flush, hurried atmosphere of wartime LA. Yet, he somehow did not end up in military service. He later showed his patriotism by starting board meetings with the Pledge of Allegiance.

The ‘first’ Carl’s Jr. was supposedly the headquarters in Anaheim, but I worked at the first one that actually opened for business, in Brea. I knew enough about Karcher to hate working for him. My point of pride from the experience was having the area manager criticize my boss for having a ‘boy’ on the drinks and fries station (only girls out front, all boys in the back with the grill & fryer) when I was dressed up for Halloween. I fooled him!

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Nyet  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:17:57pm

re: #50 Kragar

Vegan, conservative free thinker and seeker of truth.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:19:54pm

re: #50 Kragar

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Charles Johnson  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:20:39pm

I always love it when people respond with a misdirected outraged comment on Twitter because they haven’t bothered to read the article before tweeting.

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Nyet  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:21:11pm

re: #51 Charles Johnson

These guys don’t understand the concept of corroborating evidence.
I was a bit skeptical about the claims until I learned that the daddy was a denier. Then it all clicked into place.

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thedopefishlives  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:21:28pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

I always love it when people respond with a misdirected outraged comment on Twitter because they haven’t bothered to read the article before tweeting.

There’s an acronym for that: DNRTFA (Did Not Read The F———ing Article).

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Charles Johnson  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:23:16pm

Facepalm. I give up.

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thedopefishlives  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:24:01pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

Facepalm. I give up.

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What, you’re not going to spoon-feed him every little tidbit of the article you already wrote?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:24:44pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

Facepalm. I give up.

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Something wrong with that dude.

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Kragar  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:25:21pm

re: #54 goddamnedfrank

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Nyet  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:26:45pm

mea culpa

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thedopefishlives  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:27:00pm

re: #62 Nyet

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mea culpa

No you’re not. Don’t lie to me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:27:58pm

spoiler: allegedly it’s diet pills.

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Nyet  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:28:03pm

re: #63 thedopefishlives

mea massima culpa. massimissima!

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:28:54pm

And, at the start of the video Trump talks about selling a house “for a lot of money” in Palm Beach, to a Russian…

He’s also singing John McCain’s praise

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Nyet  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:29:04pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

Some dodgy site…

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teleskiguy  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:29:54pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:30:04pm

re: #67 Nyet

Some dodgy site…

thus my use of “allegedly”.

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Kragar  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:32:33pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

Many people say it would be irresponsible not to ask

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makeitstop  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:33:46pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

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spoiler: allegedly it’s diet pills.

That would surely explain a lot.

I wonder who put this story out, though. Maybe the intel community he doesn’t trust? :)

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Charles Johnson  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:33:47pm

Excuse me if I begin screaming.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:34:33pm
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Nyet  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:35:01pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

grrr

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Charles Johnson  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:35:28pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

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spoiler: allegedly it’s diet pills.

Very dodgy website there.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:35:50pm
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Nyet  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:36:42pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

Hopeless case.

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:37:07pm

Shocking unprecedented online event! Yes, a Moon hoaxer seems to have been persuaded by facts and logic:

From Retro Space Images.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:38:29pm

OK, putting this guy on mute now. The density is too much.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:39:09pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:40:56pm

re: #67 Nyet

Some dodgy site…

Yep. I would be delighted to hear that Trump had been caught buggering the local zoo’s American bison in the middle of the Washington Mall, but we would be playing the enemy game if we accepted such a claim without ironclad proof.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:42:07pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

Worst case of RTFA I’ve ever seen.

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EPR-radar  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:43:10pm

re: #81 Shiplord Kirel

Yep. I would be delighted to hear that Trump had been caught buggering the local zoo’s American bison in the middle of the Washington Mall, but we would be playing the enemy game if we accepted such a claim without ironclad proof.

On the other hand, it would be irresponsible to not speculate endlessly on what some people are saying about Trump’s habit of molesting livestock.

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:44:10pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

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spoiler: allegedly it’s diet pills.

Ephedrine? During the 1990s it was a popular stimulant that was sold under the guise of weight loss - and had a rather nasty psychosis side effect if taken too often.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:44:47pm

re: #82 goddamnedfrank

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Worst case of RTFA I’ve ever seen.

He’s never going to admit he got this wrong. I see this kind of bizarre behavior on Twitter a lot - people tweet rash things without bothering to read first, then refuse to admit they were off base.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:44:55pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:45:50pm

re: #86 FormerDirtDart

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The Trump people seem to be chronic victims of earpiece malfunctions.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:46:19pm

re: #86 FormerDirtDart

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And here we are, being mean to Trump when he goes out of his way to hire the handicapped, what with all these aides who can’t seem to hear questions.
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:47:13pm

re: #88 Blind Frog Belly White

OTOH, not being able to hear the question might explain why they never actually answer the question that was asked.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:47:27pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:48:22pm

re: #90 Backwoods_Sleuth

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One can easily see how an itsy bitsy spider could go up one of those.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:50:15pm

re: #86 FormerDirtDart

Funny thing is, the Trump Advisers never say, “What?” They just give stupid answers.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:50:45pm
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dangerman  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:51:01pm

re: #91 Blind Frog Belly White

One can easily see how an itsy bitsy spider could go up one of those.

do they have spiders in oz?

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bratwurst  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:51:28pm
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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:51:35pm

Turkish conspiracy clown implicates death-row inmate Scott Peterson in coup (Faux News):

Turkish media all in on anti-Americanism in wake of failed coup

Once a key ally of the U.S., Turkey has become a hotbed of anti-American rhetoric, with government-controlled media openly accusing the CIA and other Americans of taking part in a plan to assassinate President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. The accusations have dominated headlines in newspapers in the wake of the plot, and have included such improbable claims as the involvement of California death row prisoner Scott Peterson.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:53:56pm

Ryan Lochte and James Feigen have been indicted for false reporting of a crime.

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allegro  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:54:09pm

re: #91 Blind Frog Belly White

One can easily see how an itsy bitsy spider could go up one of those.

Really, really fast.

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goddamnedfrank  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:54:28pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:56:13pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:57:35pm

re: #99 goddamnedfrank

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I think he didn’t see the original tweet

But only saw the update:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2016 • 2:57:51pm

re: #95 bratwurst

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The Latest: Governor Defends Obama’s Response to Flooding

Louisiana Gov. John Bel Edwards is defending the Obama administration’s response to the severe flooding in his state.

President Barack Obama has received criticism for staying on vacation rather than traveling to Louisiana to see the damage first-hand.

But Edwards said Thursday that he’s spoken with the White House daily and has received quick responses for each request he’s made to the administration. He noted that FEMA Administrator Craig Fugate visited the state Tuesday and Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson was in-state Thursday.

Edwards said he is “not complaining in any way about our federal partnership.”

He added that while the President can visit whenever he’d like, he’d prefer him to wait “a week or two” because such visits require local police and first responders to help block roads and provide security.

Both Obama and Edwards are Democrats.

Way to go with that last sentence ABC.

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 18, 2016 • 3:00:23pm

re: #96 Shiplord Kirel

This all reminds me of a World War II claim by Joseph Goebbels that TE Lawrence (of Arabia) had in fact survived his 1935 motorcycle accident and gone under deep cover. He had then been unleashed at the start of the war to lead sabotage and subversion efforts in occupied Europe. Gestapo agents supposedly kept photos of Lawrence in their files just in case.

This is one of the few Goebbels lies that one could wish had been true.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 18, 2016 • 3:02:01pm
105
plansbandc  Aug 18, 2016 • 3:05:19pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

The pill taking has been in blind gossip for months. “Diet pills”

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Stanley Sea  Aug 18, 2016 • 3:08:21pm
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Charles Johnson  Aug 18, 2016 • 3:08:23pm

This story gets even weirder, because Schmitz’s sister is also notorious: Mary Kay Letourneau

Mary Kay Fualaau (née Schmitz, formerly Mary Kay Letourneau; born January 30, 1962) is an American former schoolteacher who pleaded guilty to two counts of felony second degree rape of a child, her 12-year-old student, Vili Fualaau. Her plea agreement called for six months in jail, with three months suspended, and no contact with Fualaau for life.

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Timothy Watson  Aug 18, 2016 • 3:09:08pm

re: #87 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Trump people seem to be chronic victims of earpiece malfunctions.

I remember how Ted Koppel used to talk about how Reagan would always pretend that he couldn’t hear the press when they shouting questions at him when he was boarding Marine One, unless there was a question he thought he had a good answer for at which point he would stop and walk to the reporters to answer the question.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 18, 2016 • 3:11:14pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 18, 2016 • 3:11:36pm

re: #108 Timothy Watson

I remember how Ted Koppel used to talk about how Reagan would always pretend that he couldn’t hear the press when they shouting questions at him when he was boarding Marine One, unless there was a question he thought he had a good answer for at which point he would stop and walk to the reporters to answer the question.

Then there was the time that he REALLY couldn’t hear, and Nancy dropped her chin a little and said, “We’re doing everything we can” (which was picked up by someones mic). Reagan repeated, “We’re doing everything we can!”

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EPR-radar  Aug 18, 2016 • 3:11:50pm

re: #104 FormerDirtDart

Talking to a bunch of white Republicans about how “those people” (i.e., blacks) need to behave better is not a Profiles in Courage moment. It isn’t even close.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 18, 2016 • 3:13:16pm
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gwangung  Aug 18, 2016 • 3:13:24pm

re: #111 EPR-radar

Talking to a bunch of white Republicans about how “those people” (i.e., blacks) need to behave better is not a Profiles in Courage moment. It isn’t even close.

Ya think?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 18, 2016 • 3:14:29pm

re: #111 EPR-radar

Talking to a bunch of white Republicans about how “those people” (i.e., blacks) need to behave better is not a Profiles in Courage moment. It isn’t even close.

Telling white people how black people need to behave: Chickenshit.

Listening to black people tell you how cops behave without telling them why they’re wrong: Not Chickenshit.

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wrenchwench  Aug 18, 2016 • 3:14:51pm

re: #107 Charles Johnson

This story gets even weirder, because Schmitz’s sister is also notorious: Mary Kay Letourneau

*Update*

*Facepalm*

etc.

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EPR-radar  Aug 18, 2016 • 3:15:08pm

re: #107 Charles Johnson

This story gets even weirder, because Schmitz’s sister is also notorious: Mary Kay Letourneau

“No contact with Fualaau for life” isn’t how things worked out. I.e. “Mary Kay Fualaau”.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 18, 2016 • 3:16:27pm

re: #112 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Reminds me of Dana Gould on why he and his wife adopted:

Why did I adopt kids? I dunno. Let me look at my family: religious weirdo, gun nut, biker, boozer, dead tooth, too many cats, the guy who talks to his truck. Hmmm. Maybe I adopted because genetically my balls are full of poison.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 18, 2016 • 3:21:20pm

re: #116 EPR-radar

“No contact with Fualaau for life” isn’t how things worked out. I.e. “Mary Kay Fualaau”.

Yeah, they’ve been married for over a decade now

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 18, 2016 • 3:24:11pm

re: #118 FormerDirtDart

Yeah, they’ve been married for over a decade now

Weird.

I remember when the story came out, and thinking “Twelve? TWELVE?!? Holy Shit!”

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Shiplord Kirel  Aug 18, 2016 • 3:26:07pm

Breathtaking Timelapse Of Los Angeles Will Give You Chills

City Lights

LA’s spectacular lights didn’t just inspire a range of amazing glowing shoes in the 90s—they also acted as muse for local lensman Colin Rich, who has spent the last few years covering the city from every conceivable angle. Above, Rich unveils City Lights, the last in his Trilogy of Light series.

“It was an nightly adventure that took me to almost every angle of Los Angeles,” Rich explains.”It was an exercise in patience. A lesson in light. An understanding of what it is to live amongst each other and to understand the system and order of a city, the seemingly complex organics that make it up and the life form that the city truly is.”

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 18, 2016 • 3:26:53pm

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TedStriker  Aug 18, 2016 • 3:28:02pm

re: #107 Charles Johnson

This story gets even weirder, because Schmitz’s sister is also notorious: Mary Kay Letourneau

Yeah, HappyWarrior mentioned her in his #1, though not by name, which I followed up with in my #24.

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Bill and Opus for 2016!  Aug 18, 2016 • 3:35:44pm

This may be my favorite tweet for the last month, where someone asked for an explanation of “Dune”.

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BigPapa  Aug 18, 2016 • 3:37:22pm

re: #107 Charles Johnson

This story gets even weirder, because Schmitz’s sister is also notorious: Mary Kay Letourneau

We’re in some wormhole of the Wingularity here. 2016 has been unreal.

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Great White Snark  Aug 18, 2016 • 3:38:00pm

re: #100 teleskiguy

My thought on his Extreme vetting

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 18, 2016 • 3:41:30pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2016 • 3:46:36pm
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Bubblehead II  Aug 18, 2016 • 3:46:48pm

Lizards, going to call it a day. Need to go pull some weeds from the flower beds since they refuse to do it themselves.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2016 • 3:47:01pm

I can only explain the Trump phenomenon as setting himself to explain his loss as the result of “hostile press and PC thought suppression” or the like.

Because at least to his supporters and a lot more of the GOP, his positions are perfectly sane and rational.

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 18, 2016 • 3:47:03pm
131
Skip Intro  Aug 18, 2016 • 3:47:07pm

re: #11 wrenchwench

Too far right for the Birchers, but could be a RINO today.

I remember Schmitz from back in the 1960s. He was a nut’s nut.

So was old Walter Knox, of Knox Berry Farm fame.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2016 • 3:48:20pm

re: #130 FormerDirtDart

There’s a new t-shirt at Donald Trump’s rallies labeling Hillary Clinton a “bitch.”

Just good old boys havin’ a joke, you PC police librul!

/

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FormerDirtDart  Aug 18, 2016 • 3:50:50pm

OK, now we await all the internet doctors to tell us what malady Clinton’s laugh denotes

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TedStriker  Aug 18, 2016 • 3:54:08pm

re: #131 Skip Intro

I remember Schmitz from back in the 1960s. He was a nut’s nut.

So was old Walter Knox Knott, of Knox Knott’s Berry Farm fame.

FTFY…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2016 • 3:57:49pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Aug 18, 2016 • 3:57:51pm

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wow, she looks photoshopped. >.>

137
De Kolta Chair  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:00:56pm

re: #109 klys (maker of Silmarils)

For some inexplicable reason, Murphy Brown wishes to deliver my reply:

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Skip Intro  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:02:28pm

re: #134 TedStriker

FTFY…

Thanks. There was interference in my earpiece and I didn’t ……….

Hey, it works for Trump spox. They use that one every single day.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:03:49pm
140
Great White Snark  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:04:15pm

Anyone remember the second LGF cookbook? I’m doing the Champagne Shrimp from it for dinner. Gotta go off to my commute and my iron skillet. But wanted to leave this here TheManksy found an interesting cartoon from long ago. Tom & Jerry in ancient Islam? The illustration is really good.

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allegro  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:06:36pm

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m so glad I grew up in a family with no “values”. Been so much the happier for it as has everyone I’ve ever encountered probably.

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freetoken  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:09:22pm

Was there much outrage over the mass Twitter ban today?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:09:31pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:10:41pm

re: #143 Backwoods_Sleuth

Scene inside Donald Trump Charlotte rally - teleprompters on stage - second rally this week with them

I can imagine that he cannot find any staff willing to work for or with him unless he agrees to stick to some kind of script.

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thedopefishlives  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:11:03pm

re: #142 freetoken

Was there much outrage over the mass Twitter ban today?

Wait, what happened?

146
freetoken  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:12:04pm

re: #145 thedopefishlives

Wait, what happened?

I don’t know. Just been seeing headlines in news feeds, about Twitter. Maybe it wasn’t a domestic thing.

147
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:13:03pm
148
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:14:22pm

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump’s security claimed that there was a picture of Anantha disrupting previous rallies. He said it’s impossible since he hasn’t been to one

a) they all look the same

b) they don’t need those kind of supporters

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Skip Intro  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:14:34pm

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

If Jake is still a Trump supporter then he’s very, very stupid.

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allegro  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:15:29pm

Did a movie night with a couple of old and dear friends last weekend that was a lot of fun until politics came up. That’s when I found out that our economy is in the toilet and our military is decimated, I tell you, DECIMATED! I tried offering facts. Didn’t work. Changing the subject fortunately did work to improve the evening and help stop the bleed of my respect for two otherwise very intelligent and accomplished people. Funny thing is that they’re probably saying the same about me.

I hate this election year. I fear irreparable damage is being done.

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LadyBehir  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:15:52pm

Facebook Post

I need this bag.

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nines09  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:16:15pm

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hello;
I’m Anantha

Dead giveaway.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:16:32pm

re: #151 LadyBehir

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I need this bag.

Brilliant.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:16:38pm

re: #141 allegro

I’m so glad I grew up in a family with no “values”. Been so much the happier for it as has everyone I’ve ever encountered probably.

My parents had “values” which they passed on to us kids. Fortunately they were down to earth things like be nice to your neighbor even though they’re a jerk, never trust an officer (dad was a career NCO) or anyone who can afford a zeppelin, and always vote for a yellow dog before voting for a Republican.

155
Scottishdragon  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:17:07pm
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Scottishdragon  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:17:47pm
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Scottishdragon  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:18:45pm

The above asshole has a real special timeline on twitter….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:19:52pm

re: #150 allegro

I hate this election year. I fear irreparable damage is being done.

We are failing civics as a nation. Politics is about compromise, accommodating one’s opponents’ points of view and seeking incremental change.

It is not about totally writing one’s opponents off as losers, traitors, liars, terrorist sympathizers, crypto-Islamists, moochers, etc. and totally dehumanizing them.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:21:17pm

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But but but his huge rallies mean that he’s going to win in November. Or so he keeps saying.

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Ia! Ia! Trump Ftaghn! (née Sophist)  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:22:13pm

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

Told he matched profile of known protester

Said profile being “not old enough to draw social security and darker than a sheet of newsprint”.

161
sagehen  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:22:19pm

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Ryan Lochte and James Feigen have been indicted for false reporting of a crime.

Assholes and idiots.

Let’s hope our diplomats can plea-bargain for the sentence to just be a monetary fine. A large one. And banned for life from Brazil, and from future Olympics.

162
Scottishdragon  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:23:24pm

My God

163
Stanley Sea  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:24:40pm

I’ve got to vent somewhere. Mah job.

I did a take off of this huge senior living place. 3 floors, like 7 wings each.
Took me two full days. Everything else is going to shit, not getting done.

Just got email that they sent me the old plans from June. New plans attached.

I just don’t know.

164
teleskiguy  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:26:00pm
165
thedopefishlives  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:26:19pm

re: #163 Stanley Sea

I’ve got to vent somewhere. Mah job.

I did a take off of this huge senior living place. 3 floors, like 7 wings each.
Took me two full days. Everything else is going to shit, not getting done.

Just got email that they sent me the old plans from June. New plans attached.

I just don’t know.

clientsfromhell.net

166
freetoken  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:27:06pm

Since taking office, Philippines President has been trying to out-Drumpf the short fingered one. This is his latest:

Philippine president Rodrigo Duterte calls U.N. ‘stupid,’ accuses senator of extramarital affair

Philippine resident Rodrigo Duterte called the United Nations “stupid” for questioning his aggressive anti-drug campaign and warned the international organization against interfering in the nation’s affairs, saying hundreds of suspected drug dealers and users have been killed since he took office on June 30.

Duterte, at an event commemorating the 115th anniversary of the nation’s police force, also accused a female senator — who is heading up an inquiry into the surge of extrajudicial killings — of being an “immoral woman.” He complained the United Nations is targeting his administration’s anti-drug campaign while remaining mum on terrorist activities in the Middle East.

[…]

167
freetoken  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:28:32pm

re: #164 teleskiguy

Ah… but the “AP” is the MEDIA!

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teleskiguy  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:29:51pm
169
Scottishdragon  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:32:34pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:35:33pm

re: #162 Scottishdragon

My God

[Embedded content]

Jesus.

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jaunte  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:35:33pm
172
Scottishdragon  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:36:38pm

Our Northern European friend above wants to purge people like me into the concentration camps…

173
Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:39:06pm

*spit*

174
Skip Intro  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:39:42pm

re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth

TelePrompTer for sure.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:39:48pm
176
Scottishdragon  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:40:21pm

Of course he has to observe the death of Rudolph Fucking Hess.

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teleskiguy  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:40:30pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:40:48pm
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jaunte  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:41:36pm

re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Trump in Charlotte says he’s praying for Louisiana. “We are one nation. When one state hurts we all hurt. We must…lift each other up.”

His audience is there because they heard his real message:

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Scottishdragon  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:41:56pm

I’m done with this guy. Always interesting what you run into when a Trump fan wants to talk to you.

Pepe the Frog, #whitegenocide and Nazis always seem to pop up in no time at all.

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jaunte  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:42:41pm
182
freetoken  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:42:57pm

Meanwhile, more on US Olympian Ibtihaj Muhammad. Gaffney’s right wing hate site publishes this:

Political Correctness Taints the Olympics

As it turns out, Ms. Muhammad’s sport of choice is fencing. This is understandable because, given the penchant of Muslims for hacking, stabbing, or slashing non-Muslims with knives, axes, machetes, and other sharp instruments, it’s only natural that Ms. Muhammad would gravitate toward the fencing competition. Fighting and attacking others with knives and other sharp objects appears to be in the Muslim DNA.

But what I like are the comments that are calling out this stupidity.

183
Stanley Sea  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:43:41pm

He’s piling on the con right now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:43:55pm
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Skip Intro  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:45:03pm

The Quackin is BACK!

After a two-year absence, Tall Ships festival opens in Duluth

startribune.com

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:45:41pm
187
Kragar  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:46:42pm
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Skip Intro  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:47:10pm

re: #186 Backwoods_Sleuth

“From THEM” (cue scary music).

189
dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:47:47pm

“i deny the allegations, and i defy the alligators”

190
Decatur Deb  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:49:19pm

Excuse me if I don’t participate tonight. I’m calling everyone I know in NYC and congratulating them.

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TedStriker  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:49:52pm

re: #164 teleskiguy

I’m shocked, just shocked, I tell you!

///

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HappyWarrior  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:50:18pm

re: #182 freetoken

Meanwhile, more on US Olympian Ibtihaj Muhammad. Gaffney’s right wing hate site publishes this:

Political Correctness Taints the Olympics

But what I like are the comments that are calling out this stupidity.

Goddamn Gaffney is a painfully stupid man.

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Jay C  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:54:22pm

re: #190 Decatur Deb

Excuse me if I don’t participate tonight. I’m calling everyone I know in NYC and congratulating them.

For what?*

*not to be confused with “Says Who?”

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Decatur Deb  Aug 18, 2016 • 4:55:26pm

re: #193 Jay C

For what?*

*not to be confused with “Says Who?”

For creating a Poet Laureate position in their Parks Department.

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Jay C  Aug 18, 2016 • 5:10:40pm

re: #194 Decatur Deb

For creating a Poet Laureate position in their Parks Department.

OK, then. Cool.

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CuriousLurker  Aug 18, 2016 • 5:56:53pm

re: #79 Charles Johnson

OK, putting this guy on mute now. The density is too much.

[Embedded content]

Muted? You’re more forbearing than I am. I blocked him after the second knee-jerk inanity. Liberal or not, I don’t have the patience for silly crap like that.

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jonhendry  Aug 18, 2016 • 6:09:34pm

re: #194 Decatur Deb

More like a Shade Laureate.

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CuriousLurker  Aug 18, 2016 • 8:19:38pm

re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

*spit*

Seconded.

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De Kolta Chair  Aug 18, 2016 • 9:45:51pm

re: #54 goddamnedfrank


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