A Little Good News: Twitter Shuts Down Major White Supremacist Accounts

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It should have happened before the election.

But tonight, Twitter has suspended a whole bunch of racist and white supremacist accounts, including Richard Spencer, Radix Journal, the National Policy Institute, and several other less well-known but just as ugly accounts.

Here’s the list so far:

@PaxDickinson
@PaulTown_
@JohnRiversToo
@RadixJournal
@RichardBSpencer
@NPIAmerica
@DatRickyVaughn
@NEW_ORDER_1488

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539 comments

1
Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:27:40pm

Twitter, forever a day late and a dollar short.

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TedStriker  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:28:59pm

Something, something about a horse and closing a barn door…

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wheat-dogg  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:29:03pm

Oh, Pax lost his access. I wonder if WeSearchr will be next. Rage Furby already uses that account as a surrogate for his own access. Pax will probably follow suit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:29:46pm

but twitter is still allowing Nazi promoted tweets (private tag this time because once in public downstairs was enough):

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wheat-dogg  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:30:06pm

re: #2 TedStriker

Something, something about a horse and closing a barn door…

I wonder if it’s some requirement set down by a potential buyer. That way, Jack & Co. take the heat, not the new owner.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:30:11pm

Twitter isn’t doing this because it’s right. They are doing this to make their site more appealing so they can finally sell it and move on.

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:31:14pm

Thing is, as we’re watching in pretty much real time, it doesn’t matter because these people are leaving Twitter and moving into the White House.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:33:50pm

re: #6 GlutenFreeJesus

Twitter isn’t going This because it’s right. They are doing this to make their site more appealing so they can finally sell it and move on.

I don’t think that they CAN sell it now, or at least for a price that isn’t at fire-sale levels.

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nines09  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:34:29pm
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Skip Intro  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:35:07pm

re: #9 nines09

Should say illegal immigrant.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:35:28pm

re: #3 wheat-dogg

Oh, Pax lost his access. I wonder if WeSearchr will be next. Rage Furby already uses that account as a surrogate for his own access. Pax will probably follow suit.

Don’t forget “Malik Obama” … whose writing style seems to parallel Floor-Shitter Rage Furby.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:36:01pm

re: #11 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Don’t forget “Malik Obama” … whose writing style seems to parallel Floor-Shitter Rage Furby.

Haven’t seen that one since the election. Is he still posting?

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:39:58pm

re: #12 wheat-dogg

Haven’t seen that one since the election. Is he still posting?

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VegasGolfer  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:43:53pm
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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:45:06pm

re: #14 VegasGolfer

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Stripped of gun and badge for an unreported shooting? Victim must have been white.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:46:23pm

re: #15 Targetpractice

Stripped of gun and badge for an unreported shooting? Victim must have been white.

Or he missed.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:46:40pm

re: #13 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Malik must not have inherited the smart genes that Barack got.

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:46:54pm

re: #16 Decatur Deb

Or he missed.

Or the victim is alive enough to press charges/file a lawsuit.

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VegasGolfer  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:48:50pm

No it was just two morons sitting in their car staring at their dic*s,err guns and one of them went off. Then they took off running.
New Yorks finest. 🙄

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mmmirele  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:49:04pm

re: #18 Targetpractice

Or the victim is alive enough to press charges/file a lawsuit.

Looks like, luckily!, the only damage was to a windshield. It occurred when he was sitting with another cop in a car. This cop (Smilove) hadn’t let the department know he had purchased a gun.

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Targetpractice  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:49:49pm

re: #20 mmmirele

Looks like, luckily!, the only damage was to a windshield. It occurred when he was sitting with another cop in a car. This cop (Smilove) hadn’t let the department know he had purchased a gun.

Ah. Then he’ll probably be back to the force with gun, badge, and a promotion before year’s end. After all, it was an “honest mistake.”

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:52:23pm

This David Blaine special on ABC is nuts.

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electrotek  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:53:02pm

Someone posted a link to a racist flyer being passed around at SMU.

And for fuck’s sake, it hasn’t even been a a full day before Texas became yet another national embarrassment.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:53:19pm

In a normal transition to a normal administration, there’s always disorder. There are the presidential friends and second cousins, the flacks and the hangers-on who flame out in the first year or two. There are the bad choices — the abusive bosses, the angry ideologues and the sheer dullards. You accept the good with the bad and know that there will be stupid stuff going on, particularly at the beginning. Things shake out. Even if you are just blocking errors, it is a contribution.

This time may be different. Trump was not a normal candidate, the transition is not a normal transition, and this will probably not be a normal administration. The president-elect is surrounding himself with mediocrities whose chief qualification seems to be unquestioning loyalty. He gets credit for becoming a statesman when he says something any newly elected president might say (“I very much look forward to dealing with the president in the future”) — and then reverts to tweeting against demonstrators and the New York Times. By all accounts, his ignorance, and that of his entourage, about the executive branch is fathomless. It’s not even clear that he accepts that he should live in the White House rather than in his gilt-smeared penthouse in New York.

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:55:36pm

re: #14 VegasGolfer

“Two NYPD Cops Pretending To Smile”

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:56:36pm

Stefan Molyneux, Meathead Mike Cernovich, “Ramz Paul”, “Pizza Party Ben,” Laura Southern and Ben Garrison (with his atrociously horrible art) continue to populate Twitter with a non-stop stew of racism, facism and all-around hate.

So no, Twitter, I’m not going to pat you on the back for a good college try.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:56:49pm
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stpaulbear  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:57:14pm

re: #24 Backwoods_Sleuth

gilt-smeared penthouse

Updinged just for that phrase.

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2016 • 7:59:36pm
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jaunte  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:00:36pm

“A public official may not appoint, employ, promote, advance, or advocate for appointment, employment, promotion, or advancement, in or to a civilian position in the agency in which he is serving or over which he exercises jurisdiction or control any individual who is a relative of the public official. An individual may not be appointed, employed, promoted, or advanced in or to a civilian position in an agency if such appointment, employment, promotion, or advancement has been advocated by a public official, serving in or exercising jurisdiction or control over the agency, who is a relative of the individual.”
law.cornell.edu

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:03:04pm

re: #30 jaunte

Do in-laws count?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:03:23pm

re: #31 GlutenFreeJesus

Do in-laws count?

yes

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:03:49pm

re: #31 GlutenFreeJesus

“relative” means, with respect to a public official, an individual who is related to the public official as father, mother, son, daughter, brother, sister, uncle, aunt, first cousin, nephew, niece, husband, wife, father-in-law, mother-in-law, son-in-law, daughter-in-law, brother-in-law, sister-in-law, stepfather, stepmother, stepson, stepdaughter, stepbrother, stepsister, half brother, or half sister.

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Chrysicat  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:05:21pm

From downstairs (why am I always posting in dead threads? Because I can only stay awake about 3 hours at a time so they always build up!):

re: #142 bratwurst

Fucking hell.

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If Ellison’s truly anti-Jewish (for obvs reasons, he can’t be an antisemite!), that would be rather a dick move indeed and a reason for me to support the guy from Louisiana who announced on Maddow last night, instead.

Also makes me wonder why ol’ Birdie Sanders is pushing Keith.

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electrotek  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:05:24pm

Well, if you’re dumb enough to voice support of a demagogue whose values run completely antithetical to the scene you are supposed to represent, then you can’t cry “liberal fascism” for failing to realize the consequences of your statements:

Booking agent for a NYC dance club resigns over pro-Trump comments

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:05:47pm

re: #33 jaunte

Ty. Didn’t click the link. Guess I should have. lol

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ninja cat  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:09:20pm

Sen Sherrod Brown has spoken out on Bannon as well. Until we start seeing some GOP do the same though, it’s only going to matter so much.

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electrotek  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:09:47pm

re: #35 electrotek

To add, I made this comment in ResidentAdvisor, a popular dance music site for underground house and techno, about his resignation:

Well, he is endorsing a man that brags about sexual assault and dismisses it as “locker room talk”. When nightclubs continue to see rising problems with sexual harassment and making life Hell for women patrons, this is a dangerous sign and sets a horrible precedent.

Can’t stress this enough. I hate seeing female patrons get sexually harassed on the dancefloor. Can’t women have fun without being creeped on???

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teleskiguy  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:11:17pm
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jaunte  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:11:46pm
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electrotek  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:12:23pm

re: #39 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Neo-Nazis have declared New Balance the ‘Official Shoes of White People’

That blows. I love my NB 990’s and they are the only running shoes that fit well with my orthotics.

I’m stuck.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:13:37pm

re: #37 ninja cat

Sen Sherrod Brown has spoken out on Bannon as well. Until we start seeing some GOP do the same though, it’s only going to matter so much.

I’ve said it before, but I am proud that Sen. Sherrod Brown and Connie Schultz reside in my hometown of Avon, Ohio.

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bratwurst  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:13:44pm

re: #42 electrotek

That blows. I love my NB 990’s and they are the only running shoes that fit well with my orthotics.

I’m stuck.

I was about to say the same thing.

I will only stop wearing NewBalance when I decide I hate my feet, not a moment before.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:13:46pm

re: #42 electrotek

That blows. I love my NB 990’s and they are the only running shoes that fit well with my orthotics.

I’m stuck.

actually i’d have to say that it’s totally unfair to the company all they did was say that getting rid of tpp benefits them since they manufacture all in the u.s.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:15:22pm

trump dines at 21

im sure the dumb bastard is really pissed off that he might have to actually work hard for once in his life after all he complained about how campaigning was taking him away from his great life, the best life, i can tell you

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electrotek  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:15:26pm

re: #45 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

actually i’d have to say that it’s totally unfair to the company all they did was say that getting rid of tpp benefits them since they manufacture all in the u.s.

For sure. I thought it was so asinine to put out the e-pitchforks before looking into what they actually said.

Although they should have kept their mouth shut about Trump though. One mention of Trump in a positive tone really fucked them over.

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:15:34pm

Infrastructure Means Jobs!

Draining the Swamp:
Beginning in 1930, the bonifica idraulica cleared the scrub forest,[note 3] constructed a total of 16,500 km (10,300 mi) of checkerboard canals and trenches, dredged rivers, diked their banks, filled depressions, and constructed pumping stations to change the elevation in the canals where necessary. The final channel, the Mussolini Canal, empties into the Tyrrhenian Sea near Anzio. The project reached a peak in 1933 with 124,000 men employed. The previous agrarian population was moved out under protest in the name of progress. Workers were interned in camps surrounded by barbed wire. The camps were overcrowded, wages were low, hours were long, food was bad, sanitation was poor, healthcare was missing, and medical attention was lacking. However, workers could quit, and the turnover was high. In 1935, at the completion of the phase, they were all dismissed without notice. Many were infected with malaria.
en.wikipedia.org

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stpaulbear  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:16:06pm

re: #39 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Neo-Nazis have declared New Balance the ‘Official Shoes of White People’

I’d been meaning to replace my New Balance 993’s for weeks. now I’m glad that I never got around to going shoe shopping.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:16:54pm

re: #46 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

trump dines at 21

im sure the dumb bastard is really pissed off that he might have to actually work hard for once in his life after all he complained about how campaigning was taking him away from his great life, the best life, i can tell you

He will just have Pence and Bannon do all the work while he tacks his name on it. Like always.

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electrotek  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:17:26pm

re: #44 bratwurst

I was about to say the same thing.

I will only stop wearing NewBalance when I decide I hate my feet, not a moment before.

If Adidas and Puma put out shoes that had removable insoles for casual kicks, then I’d be rocking those.

I have to wear orthotics for my right foot because of a possible Morton’s Neuroma so my choices have got very limited because of it.

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TedStriker  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:17:54pm

re: #45 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

actually i’d have to say that it’s totally unfair to the company all they did was say that getting rid of tpp benefits them since they manufacture all in the u.s.

Um, no, not any more…New Balance makes most of their line overseas, just like everyone else.

In 1994, New Balance manufactured 70 percent of its shoes in the United States.[11] In 2006, New Balance stated on its customer help site that “approximately 25% of the New Balance shoes sold in North America are Made in the USA and we will continue domestic manufacturing.”[12] According to Fortune in 2006, “About 70 percent of its shoes are now made in China and the other 5 percent in Vietnam.”[13]

en.wikipedia.org

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electrotek  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:18:52pm

re: #52 TedStriker

Um, no, not any more…New Balance makes a bunch of their line overseas, just like everyone else.

en.wikipedia.org

Don’t they have a UK plant too?

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TedStriker  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:19:35pm

re: #53 electrotek

Don’t they have a UK plant too?

For the UK and European markets.

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electrotek  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:21:33pm

re: #54 TedStriker

For the UK and European markets.

Got it.

If only they had a Japanese plant. Would love to acquire Japanese-made ones given the history of Adidas kicks made over there.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:24:39pm

Reporter: “Mr. Barefoot Grin, there are reports that you took part in a three-way when you were a teenager….”

Barefoot Grin: “I was young and naive; I’d like a do-over.”

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electrotek  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:25:28pm

This world has gone bonkers:

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wheat-dogg  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:27:25pm

re: #57 electrotek

This world has gone bonkers:

Nero fiddled while Rome burned.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:27:57pm

re: #57 electrotek

This world has gone bonkers:

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Maduro makes Chavez look like Obama. Well not really but Maduro is pretty bad.

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Kragar  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:29:06pm
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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:30:04pm

re: #39 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Neo-Nazis have declared New Balance the ‘Official Shoes of White People’

Well if that’s the case, I’m glad I wear Adidas instead of NB. I used to wear NB. They’re nice shoes but fuck the Nazis. And yes I am ware of Adidas’ history.

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stpaulbear  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:31:03pm

re: #60 Kragar

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He wanted the win but he doesn’t want the job.

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:31:06pm

re: #57 electrotek

Chavez used to monologue for six hours at a time on his radio show:
en.wikipedia.org

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:31:17pm

re: #60 Kragar

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It’s the first thing on any job that you apply to out of area “Are you willing to relocate”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:32:16pm

re: #62 stpaulbear

He wanted the win but he doesn’t want the job.

It’s worse than Marco Rubio even and Marco Rubio really didn’t have a lot of respect for his job.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:32:51pm

Nate Silver (remember him?) has an article on 2016 voter turnout. The numbers are only starting to gell, but it’s coming in about as high as 2012. It’s going to take a long while to determine what really happened on election day.

fivethirtyeight.com

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BeachDem  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:33:15pm

re: #34 Chrysicat

From downstairs (why am I always posting in dead threads? Because I can only stay awake about 3 hours at a time so they always build up!):

If Ellison’s truly anti-Jewish (for obvs reasons, he can’t be an antisemite!), that would be rather a dick move indeed and a reason for me to support the guy from Louisiana who announced on Maddow last night, instead.

Also makes me wonder why ol’ Birdie Sanders is pushing Keith.

And my answer to you downstairs (well after you and everyone else had already left:

If you’re talking about Jaime Harrison, he’s from SC not LA—he’s a good guy, but the lefties were howling because he lobbies for Podesta Group. I like him—he’s a hard-worker and has a great attitude, but what do I know.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:34:14pm

I’m feeling a lot better than I was earlier though. Still bummed about the election obviously but had a great talk with my brother and his family. His little girl is growing up so fast. Felt even amused that she called me the name she calls my Dad by because hey I may be older than her Dada but I’m not that old! But when we said good night, she called me by my name. I love that kid and I love seeing my brother becoming a fine man and father and husband.

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:35:21pm
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BeachDem  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:36:20pm

re: #50 GlutenFreeJesus

He will just have Pence and Bannon do all the work while he tacks his name on it. Like always.

And while he dines at 21, they’ll eat at Chili’s.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:37:29pm

I just made that my FB banner photo, in light of all my “friends” saying “Trump won. Get over it.”.

Hopefully they’ll just delete themselves.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:39:52pm

re: #69 jaunte

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That’s very gracious of the victim. I have Asperger’s myself. I am glad it wasn’t politically related. And I hope that people show this young man some compassion in light of this event. No, it’s not something I would have done but as Ziggy and other Lizards who either are on the spectrum or have someone they love on the spectrum, it effects us all differently.

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jaunte  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:42:52pm
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Stanley Sea  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:43:32pm
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BeachDem  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:43:37pm

Trump’s transition clusterfuck is like a demonic Rorschach test. They keep throwing out every repulsive right-wing name, and each of us recoils in horror from a different one.

Like—they’re all horrible, but certain ones (in my case, Ken Blackwell and Michelle Rhee) really set off our spidy senses.

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prairiefire  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:43:51pm

re: #72 HappyWarrior

My nephew on the spectrum is doing well channeling his talents into debate and forensics in high school. I’m really proud of him. Plus, he wants to go to “butler school.” I think that could be a good fit.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:43:55pm

re: #4 Backwoods_Sleuth

but twitter is still allowing Nazi promoted tweets (private tag this time because once in public downstairs was enough):

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That account is now suspended too.

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prairiefire  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:44:41pm

re: #75 BeachDem

Kris K Kobach, for me.

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MsJ  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:44:44pm

re: #1 Targetpractice

Twitter, forever a day late and a dollar short.

If it lasts two days I’ll be shocked.

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William Lewis  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:44:54pm

re: #71 GlutenFreeJesus

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I just made that my FB banner photo, in light of all my “friends” saying “Trump won. Get over it.”.

Hopefully they’ll just delete themselves.

Had a self-proclaimed Bircher tell me today that it wont matter cause we’ll all be Prosperous! real soon now. Because Trump is Rich! you know. Didnt want to hear about inheritance or 6 bankruptcies…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:47:10pm

re: #76 prairiefire

My nephew on the spectrum is doing well channeling his talents into debate and forensics in high school. I’m really proud of him. Plus, he wants to go to “butler school.” I think that could be a good fit.

That’s great. People have become so much more accepting of Asperger’s than when I was a kid. We know more about it now so that helps too. I think that’s why I don’t like it when people complain about kids these days. I mean there are still bullies obviously but I think kids are more tolerant of kids who are different now.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:50:00pm

Gosh naming your personal worst for the Trump transition is like naming your favorite part of the dentist trip. For me though, it’s gotta be Jared Kushner. His personal grudge with Christie who I obviously have no love for either could cost Trump at least some marginally competent people in defense and national security. As far as cabinet possibilities? My least favorite is Jefferson Beauregard Sessions the third with his history of bigotry and his alleged stupid joke that he was okay with the KKK until he found out some of them smoked weed. The guy just looks like he could be a bad guy in a movie about a pre-war Senate fight over slavery and even has the name.

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MsJ  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:51:47pm

re: #37 ninja cat

Sen Sherrod Brown has spoken out on Bannon as well. Until we start seeing some GOP do the same though, it’s only going to matter so much.

Even if they do…so? Nothing will happen no matter what.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:55:46pm

My dad really really hates Rudy Giuliani which amuses me because I never knew he felt that way about him. Speaking of that, some of you from New York have told me that there are a lot of things that debunk the idea that Giuliani’s policies were responsible for NYC’s drop in crime in the 90’s. Wouldn’t mind some links. I pointed out that some of the things the Giuliani mayor’s office did were blatantly unconstiutional but the kind of people that we’re trying to get this message to don’t care about that but maybe if I can find some studies that show the drop actually began in the Dinkins mayorship or independent of Rudy’s mayorship.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:58:28pm

re: #83 MsJ

Even if they do…so? Nothing will happen no matter what.

I hear ya but making Bannon a name and face to match the Trump administration could do some good. I doubt it’ll force him out but maybe it will help make Breitbart stained. Do to Breitbart what the right’s been doing to groups like ACORN and Planned Parenthood except being honest about it.

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BeachDem  Nov 15, 2016 • 8:59:25pm

Started reading the new Jodi Picoult book to distract myself from the shitshow (of course I choose a book that “is about racism, choice, fear, and hope.The novel is based on the true story of a labor and delivery nurse who was prohibited from caring for a newborn because the father requested that no African-American nurses tend to his baby. “)

One description about the book:

There are two points in life when we are all equal : At the moment of birth And at the moment of death. It is how we live between that defines us.

The intro quote (attributed to Ben Franklin, but there is some question about that) is:

Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are

Seems like a good book to read right about now, so with that I’m off to bed to read.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 15, 2016 • 9:23:34pm

Can’t wait.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 15, 2016 • 9:24:37pm

re: #72 HappyWarrior

That’s very gracious of the victim. I have Asperger’s myself. I am glad it wasn’t politically related. And I hope that people show this young man some compassion in light of this event. No, it’s not something I would have done but as Ziggy and other Lizards who either are on the spectrum or have someone they love on the spectrum, it effects us all differently.

I’ve been overcoming Asperger’s since I was a small child. It’s something that I try to minimize as much as possible only per my own wishes, but that’s how I was raised… to never let it pigeonhole me.

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William Lewis  Nov 15, 2016 • 9:25:51pm

What is the best and most well established group for Islamic people in America? Likewise for Hispanic people? Im looking for the equal of the ADL or NAACP if such exists. I am trying to put together a list of resources for a three fold pamphlet i have decided to write.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 15, 2016 • 9:31:19pm

“in light of what happened, i am asking for emergency powers”

that’s the magic phrase that would inagurate fascism

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VegasGolfer  Nov 15, 2016 • 9:34:26pm

re: #84 HappyWarrior

kevinbaker.info
This is a good link.

Here’s a search I did
crime went down under giuliani myth
(for some reason I could make a link of my google search)

Or you can check out a book called Rudy! By Wayne Barrett

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William Lewis  Nov 15, 2016 • 9:34:34pm

re: #90 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

“in light of what happened, i am asking for emergency powers”

that’s the magic phrase that would inagurate fascism

And just like in Star Wars III people will cheer for the death of freedom.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 15, 2016 • 9:36:13pm

re: #84 HappyWarrior

My dad really really hates Rudy Giuliani which amuses me because I never knew he felt that way about him. Speaking of that, some of you from New York have told me that there are a lot of things that debunk the idea that Giuliani’s policies were responsible for NYC’s drop in crime in the 90’s. Wouldn’t mind some links. I pointed out that some of the things the Giuliani mayor’s office did were blatantly unconstiutional but the kind of people that we’re trying to get this message to don’t care about that but maybe if I can find some studies that show the drop actually began in the Dinkins mayorship or independent of Rudy’s mayorship.

crime had already been declining in cities all across the country for several years

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Chrysicat  Nov 15, 2016 • 9:36:47pm

re: #67 BeachDem

And my answer to you downstairs (well after you and everyone else had already left:

If you’re talking about Jaime Harrison, he’s from SC not LA—he’s a good guy, but the lefties were howling because he lobbies for Podesta Group. I like him—he’s a hard-worker and has a great attitude, but what do I know.

Ahh. Don’t know how I forgot his name or his state, but yeah, that’s got to be him. And yeah, funny how only the Deplorables and the extreme left have a problem letting lobbyists work for their party.

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teleskiguy  Nov 15, 2016 • 9:46:07pm
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bratwurst  Nov 15, 2016 • 9:47:38pm
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Kragar  Nov 15, 2016 • 9:50:04pm
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Kragar  Nov 15, 2016 • 9:54:18pm
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VegasGolfer  Nov 15, 2016 • 9:54:40pm

re: #97 Kragar

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“Go back to India b*tch,” one email read. “I am tired of being shamed because I’m a white male. You automatically think I’m a racist. How about you go the f*ck back to India or wherever you came from?”

You cant make this shit up.

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retired cynic  Nov 15, 2016 • 9:57:09pm

re: #99 VegasGolfer

I heard her on NPR this afternoon. She sounded like a nice woman.

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Ubiq  Nov 15, 2016 • 10:05:16pm

re: #82 HappyWarrior

Gosh naming your personal worst for the Trump transition is like naming your favorite part of the dentist trip. For me though, it’s gotta be Jared Kushner. His personal grudge with Christie who I obviously have no love for either could cost Trump at least some marginally competent people in defense and national security. As far as cabinet possibilities? My least favorite is Jefferson Beauregard Sessions the third with his history of bigotry and his alleged stupid joke that he was okay with the KKK until he found out some of them smoked weed. The guy just looks like he could be a bad guy in a movie about a pre-war Senate fight over slavery and even has the name.

I’m pretty happy with every elected official, especially Senator, he chooses. Sessions is a major league asshole, yes, but the only other way he leaves the senate is death. Yeah, the dems would be unlikely to pick up a seat in Alabama, but if the senate election is a special election, low turnout could cause wierd things to happen.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 15, 2016 • 10:07:19pm

the grand kleagle or whoever he is in that klan picture at the top looks like he is giving the photographer the finger

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teleskiguy  Nov 15, 2016 • 10:18:31pm

re: #98 Kragar

This is weird upside down inside out times. I still adhere strongly to the belief that

Youtube Video

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 15, 2016 • 10:28:54pm
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Nyet  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:39:19am

re: #34 Chrysicat

If Ellison’s truly anti-Jewish (for obvs reasons, he can’t be an antisemite!)

I didn’t grok this phrase.

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Nyet  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:42:31am

re: #45 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

actually i’d have to say that it’s totally unfair to the company all they did was say that getting rid of tpp benefits them since they manufacture all in the u.s.

Although the death of TPP is great, this is not “totally unfair” to the company and that’s not all they said.

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Nyet  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:48:16am

re: #98 Kragar

Glenn Beck built it.

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Kragar  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:57:32am
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EPR-radar  Nov 16, 2016 • 1:01:01am

re: #57 electrotek

This looks like someone whose fashion sense will appeal to Trump.

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Nyet  Nov 16, 2016 • 1:12:02am

re: #108 Kragar

App. it’s from 2001.

Locum’s CEO Ingemar Ziegler defends the copy with “naturally this was not intended and if you do have a dirty imagination you may read this a little wrong - but it is harmless.”

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freetoken  Nov 16, 2016 • 1:12:39am

For the first time since yesterday glanced at the headlines. They all seem to imply a lot of chaos inside Team Trump right now.

None of us are surprised at this.

Trump shuffles transition team, eyes loyalists for Cabinet

President-elect Donald Trump shuffled his transition team again on Tuesday, jettisoning a national security expert and lobbyists from his inner circle as he closed in on naming two loyal Wall Street backers to key economic positions.

[…]

“Very organized process taking place as I decide on Cabinet and many other positions,” Trump said on Twitter after taking his family to dinner at 21 Club, a Manhattan restaurant, his motorcade slipping away from reporters gathered at his apartment building.

“I am the only one who knows who the finalists are!” Trump said.

[…]

So, The Presidency is going to be run like The Apprentice.

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Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite  Nov 16, 2016 • 1:17:25am

The media was too busy wringing their hands over Hillary’s emails.
Why don’t I hear anything about those emails anymore?

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Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite  Nov 16, 2016 • 1:25:44am

re: #96 bratwurst

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He could be President one day!

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Alyosha  Nov 16, 2016 • 1:27:02am

re: #112 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite

The media was too busy wringing their hands over Hillary’s emails.
Why don’t I hear anything about those emails anymore?

The media is too busy trying to bag one of Trump’s much-vaunted and ultra-high tech messenger pigeons.

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Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite  Nov 16, 2016 • 1:35:28am

Unfortunately, Many of us wasp Americans, actually extremely love Jewish, black and Hispanic family members. I cant believe I have to say that.

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Kragar  Nov 16, 2016 • 1:39:48am
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Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite  Nov 16, 2016 • 1:41:17am

I have lived outside this country for years. I have been passionate about defending American men to French, Japanese, and Swedish women. Not anymore.

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Kragar  Nov 16, 2016 • 1:46:45am

Enginseer

An Enginseer is a Tech-priest of the Adeptus Mechanicus whose specialization is the maintenance and repair of the many technological instruments of the Imperium of Man, both in peace as in war. Enginseers are the most commonly seen members of the Mechanicus, for they are present wherever a somewhat technologically advanced human settlement reside. By virtue of the ancient Treaty of Mars, many Enginseers are attached to the Imperial Guard and Imperial Navy, maintaining and repairing the Imperium’s vehicles, aircraft, starships, and other wargear and ensuring that the warriors who prosecute the Emperor’s wars always have the means to do so.

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Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite  Nov 16, 2016 • 1:53:39am

re: #117 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite

I have lived outside this country for years. I have been passionate about defending American men to French, Japanese, and Swedish women. Not anymore.

Cant believe I have no up dings. But then again, Trump is President.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 16, 2016 • 2:00:55am

re: #119 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite

Cant believe I have no up dings. But then again, Trump is President.

For a day or so your text has become very hard to understand. Probably a stress reaction. If it helps, no harm in keeping it up, but if it isn’t working start communicating more with Real Life friends.

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Teukka  Nov 16, 2016 • 2:03:58am

re: #108 Kragar

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Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite  Nov 16, 2016 • 2:04:05am

re: #120 Decatur Deb

For a day or so your text has become very hard to understand. Probably a stress reaction. If it helps, no harm in keeping it up, but if it isn’t working start communicating more with Real Life friends.

You are right. This has been hard for me. It is people like you, who are getting me though this.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 16, 2016 • 2:06:46am

re: #122 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite

You are right. This has been hard for me. It is people like you, who are getting me though this.

I always wanted to be Ann Fucking Landers.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 16, 2016 • 2:33:21am

re: #108 Kragar

Scandinavian stationery company Locum, who should have consulted more widely on this

I wonder if they are having an end-of-season sale, in Swedish a slutspurt.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 16, 2016 • 2:33:35am

re: #111 freetoken

For the first time since yesterday glanced at the headlines. They all seem to imply a lot of chaos inside Team Trump right now.

None of us are surprised at this.

Trump shuffles transition team, eyes loyalists for Cabinet

So, The Presidency is going to be run like The Apprentice.

Of course, he wants a bunch of yesmen around him.

You get the government you a minority of Americans deserve.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 16, 2016 • 2:34:25am

Through evil design or outright incompetence, the incoming Trump organization could throw us into a real-world crisis. So far all we have is fragmentary information, deliberate bullshit, and our own imaginings to predict the future. Trump’s growing absurdity works to unify the sane opposition.

Here are real numbers: If it gets really, really, unmistakeably bad , internally or externally, it would only take the decisions of 4 Republican Senators or 20 Republican Congressmen to shut that crap down.

Yeah—we might have to rely on a handful of sane, patriotic Republicans.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 16, 2016 • 2:35:47am

re: #126 Decatur Deb

Yeah—we might have to rely on a handful of sane, patriotic Republicans.

If they see it in their long-term interest to work with the Democrats, they could start to block Trump.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 16, 2016 • 2:38:29am

re: #127 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If they see it in their long-term interest to work with the Democrats, they could start to block Trump.

Yes, and being politicians, they’d set a price. (We’d actually need a few more because we have assholes on our side too.)

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Teukka  Nov 16, 2016 • 3:13:12am

re: #124 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I wonder if they are having an end-of-season sale, in Swedish a slutspurt.

Nah. Locum is the Stockholm County Council Real Estate Holding and Premises management company. The County Council has been conservative-led since ‘06,
and does not have the best of bottom lines, yet the conservative-led centre-right alliance has for the longest time resisted increasing taxes even the slightest fraction.

They have an ongoing scandal with a company called OneMed which was supposed to make consumables for the health care sector cheaper, but sold support stockings for 5,000 SEK ($550-ish) per pair to the council. The contract was of course terminated, but not before OneMed managed to secure a clause which prevented the County Council to speak negatively of the company.

And OneMed got caught trying to get the identities of the journalists which broke the story about the less than honest business practices of OneMed, which the County council had to refuse because of the source protection law here (basically, if they had, the person letting OneMed have the info would go to jail).

The OneMed deal was made during Filippa Reinfeldt’s reign in the Council. Yes, ex-Mrs of the former Swedish PM… She now works for Aleris, a (primarily) geriatric care provider. And this publicity fail appears to have been made back during her reign, so it wouldn’t surprise me if the council either got what they bought (cheapest PR possible) or got caught in another less than honorable business deal.

Investigations into the other contracts made during Reinfeldt’s reign are ongoing.

Yep, righties do this kinda shit this side of the pond too…

*smh*

Edit: the text appears to be from their Christmas holiday campaign from a handful of years back.

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Alyosha  Nov 16, 2016 • 3:15:59am

re: #126 Decatur Deb

Until then…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 16, 2016 • 3:17:38am

re: #130 Alyosha

When reason has failed to stop political madness, the hope is that at least good old inefficiency can.

unfortunately, only in the most inefficient way…

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Timothy Watson  Nov 16, 2016 • 3:17:41am

I know people were talking about different groups that they could donate to:

ActBlue - A PAC that provides fundraising services to Democratic Party organizations and candidates.

Virginia Coalition for Open Government (or a similar organization in your state) - Fights against FOIA exemptions, provides assistance to citizens, bloggers, reporters, etc.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 16, 2016 • 3:19:02am

re: #130 Alyosha

Until then…

When reason has failed to stop political madness, the hope is that at least good old inefficiency can.

I did 30 years as a DoD bureaucrat. That is the bedrock of my calm.

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Alyosha  Nov 16, 2016 • 3:29:11am

re: #133 Decatur Deb

I did 30 years as a DoD bureaucrat. That is the bedrock of my calm.

I will own at the outset that I am going to invoke Hitler.
Reading about him in Kershaw’s bio, I was struck by two things.
One, that he peopled his ministries with members of his Old Guard as a reward.
Two, that because they all owed their loyalty to him, and because the bureaucracy had become so compromised with these yes-man transplants, departments began to overlap and personal frictions developed.
If anything, the Third Reich was a deviation from the idea of German efficiency.
Add to this the suggestions that Trump seems most swayed by the last person with whom he has spoken and undoubtedly a tendency to approve of a ‘law of the jungle’ type dynamic within his spheres of control (The Apprentice, need I say more?) and I think that gross inefficiency is a given at this point.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 16, 2016 • 3:31:24am

re: #134 Alyosha

If anything, the Third Reich was a deviation from the idea of German efficiency.

We can only be grateful that they were too inefficient to get their new weapons into production before it was too late for them to affect the outcome of the war…

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wheat-dogg  Nov 16, 2016 • 3:34:49am

re: #134 Alyosha

Add to this the suggestions that Trump seems most swayed by the last person with whom he has spoken and undoubtedly a tendency to approve of a ‘law of the jungle’ type dynamic within his spheres of control (The Apprentice, need I say more?) and I think that gross inefficiency is a given at this point.

Wasn’t that the management style of the CEO of Sears? I understand it’s one reason why the company is financially on the ropes now.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 16, 2016 • 3:35:53am

re: #136 wheat-dogg

Wasn’t that the management style of the CEO of Sears? I understand it’s one reason why the company is financially on the ropes now.

A man who was, like Paul Ryan, a big fan of Ayn Rand’s philosophy.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 16, 2016 • 3:39:41am

re: #134 Alyosha

I will own at the outset that I am going to invoke Hitler.
Reading about him in Kershaw’s bio, I was struck by two things.
One, that he peopled his ministries with members of his Old Guard as a reward.
Two, that because they all owed their loyalty to him, and because the bureaucracy had become so compromised with these yes-man transplants, departments began to overlap and personal frictions developed.
If anything, the Third Reich was a deviation from the idea of German efficiency.
Add to this the suggestions that Trump seems most swayed by the last person with whom he has spoken and undoubtedly a tendency to approve of a ‘law of the jungle’ type dynamic within his spheres of control (The Apprentice, need I say more?) and I think that gross inefficiency is a given at this point.

I remember folktales about Goering’s logistics trying to supply the Stalingrad perimeter by air. One precious Junkers cargo supposedly consisted largely of condoms.

We hear that Trump is not a reader, but a couple years ago it was said Mein Kampf was on his nightstand.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 16, 2016 • 3:42:33am

re: #138 Decatur Deb

I remember folktales about Goering’s logistics trying to supply the Stalingrad perimeter by air. One precious Junkers cargo supposedly consisted largely of condoms.

We hear that Trump is not a reader, but a couple years ago it was said Mein Kampf was on his nightstand.

Actually, it was a collection of Adolf’s speeches, I believe. Whatever Trump learned from reading (?) them, it was certainly not cogent public speaking.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 16, 2016 • 3:47:51am

re: #138 Decatur Deb

I remember folktales about Goering’s logistics trying to supply the Stalingrad perimeter by air. One precious Junkers cargo supposedly consisted largely of condoms.

Another one was said to be full of herbs and spices. Useful for flavoring the horseflesh, I guess…

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Decatur Deb  Nov 16, 2016 • 3:48:05am

re: #135 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We can only be grateful that they were too inefficient to get their new weapons into production before it was too late for them to affect the outcome of the war…

But now we do that through the most modern of processes. I’ve shown this slide before—we spent two weeks on it in a Defense Acquisition University class.

Image: atl_wall_chart.jpg

This is not a joke. Wired magazine’s image is just the best graphics grab.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 16, 2016 • 3:51:45am

re: #141 Decatur Deb

But now we do that through the most modern of processes. I’ve shown this slide before—we spent two weeks on it in a Defense Acquisition University class.

Image: atl_wall_chart.jpg

This is not a joke. Wired magazine’s image is just the best graphics grab.

How many people started looking for new jobs after seeing that?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 16, 2016 • 3:55:04am

re: #141 Decatur Deb

But now we do that through the most modern of processes. I’ve shown this slide before—we spent two weeks on it in a Defense Acquisition University class.

Image: atl_wall_chart.jpg

This is not a joke. Wired magazine’s image is just the best graphics grab.

Alternate title:

“How to spend $40,000 for a coffee maker”

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Decatur Deb  Nov 16, 2016 • 4:03:24am

re: #142 Timothy Watson

How many people started looking for new jobs after seeing that?

Required course for anyone hoping to get a tiny slice of a project through the balliwicks.

re: #143 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Alternate title:

“How to spend $40,000 for a coffee maker”

“How to make sure your weapon system is obsolescent around Milestone C”

Almost all of that is a response to law and regulation honestly designed to keep human beings from ripping off the lucrative system and fulfill the intent of Congress.

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Alyosha  Nov 16, 2016 • 4:25:35am

Sorry, I was out for a bit.
My sister is really torn-up about the election and needed a heart-to-heart.
I don’t know if it’s just my influence, but we really needed America to be that beacon of hope and illumination. My takeaway has been that the fire hasn’t been extinguished. And that has kept me warm of late.

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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 16, 2016 • 4:54:36am

In light of Donald Trump’s election, the neo-Nazi National Socialist Movement has announced that it will replace the swastika with the Odal rune on flags and uniforms.

America’s white supremacists ban swastika in bold attempt to ‘go mainstream’

“We are not racist, and I do not like that term,” Jeff Schoep tells news.com.au.
The commander of the National Socialist Movement — described as the party “for every patriotic white American” — has a brand new reason to protest the point.
His party is about to do something it has never done. It is making a run at the mainstream, and it is even banning the swastika. Gone. Banished from uniforms that haven’t changed since the 1960s, well before the commander joined the ranks as a 19-year-old.
In a statement on the NSM website earlier this month, Mr Schoep called it a “slight re-branding”.
“Your party platform remains the same, your party remains unchanged, it is a cosmetic overhaul only,” he wrote.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 4:57:09am
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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 16, 2016 • 5:00:22am

re: #146 Shiplord Kirel

What are they worried about? It’s not like anybody remembers what the swastika stands for anyway. “Dude, why did they change the graphic on my favorite forum?”

/only partly kidding

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 5:02:16am

so easily baited:

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Timothy Watson  Nov 16, 2016 • 5:03:22am

re: #146 Shiplord Kirel

In light of Donald Trump’s election, the neo-Nazi National Socialist Movement has announced that it will replace the swastika with the Odal rune on flags and uniforms.

America’s white supremacists ban swastika in bold attempt to ‘go mainstream’

Can’t wait for the splitters who will decry the political correctness of neo-Nazis.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 16, 2016 • 5:04:10am

re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth

so easily baited:

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The Saudis want to know when they can start their nuclear program.

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Donkey With No Name  Nov 16, 2016 • 5:09:18am

re: #144 Decatur Deb

Almost all of that is a response to law and regulation honestly designed to keep human beings from ripping off the lucrative system and fulfill the intent of Congress.

See, here’s the thing, there certainly are cases where regulation, while well-intended, is overwhelming and often counterproductive (government acquisitions in general or the GMO crop regulations mentioned earlier, which have the effect of locking out everyone who doesn’t know how or doesn’t have the resources to navigate the system). If Republicans were interested in addressing that, I’d be sympathetic. But rolling back river pollution controls? Not on board with that at all.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 16, 2016 • 5:10:09am

re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth

so easily baited:

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“Brave” new world.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 16, 2016 • 5:10:44am

Well when Paul Ryan repeals Obamacare and guts Medicare along with it, will all the seniors who voted for Trump rise up in revolt or just die quietly?

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Timothy Watson  Nov 16, 2016 • 5:11:29am

re: #154 The Vicious Babushka

Well when Paul Ryan repeals Obamacare and guts Medicare along with it, will all the seniors who voted for Trump rise up in revolt or just die quietly?

They’ll blame Obama.

/ (half)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 5:12:47am
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(alpuz)  Nov 16, 2016 • 5:20:21am

re: #155 Timothy Watson

They’ll blame Obama.

/ (half)

That’s exactly what will happen. They’ll blame Obama. They’ll blame the Muslims & the minorities, the lazy moochers and… well you get the rest. No snark tag here.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 16, 2016 • 5:22:21am

Wow, who is Trump going to sue for that video?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 16, 2016 • 5:25:01am

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

Russia will withdraw from the International Criminal Court under a directive signed by President Vladimir Putin

Russian Exceptionalism.

They answer only to God.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 16, 2016 • 5:26:19am

re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth

so easily baited:

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jeffreyw  Nov 16, 2016 • 5:27:33am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 16, 2016 • 5:27:58am

re: #123 Decatur Deb

I always wanted to be Ann Fucking Landers.

Oh, Ann Landers is a boring old biddy!

Ann Landers is a Boring Old Biddy!

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wheat-dogg  Nov 16, 2016 • 5:33:07am

The look on Trump’s face says it all.

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Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite  Nov 16, 2016 • 5:35:41am

Mika and Joe still saying Trump won because the economy. Hahahahaha.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 5:36:00am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 5:37:41am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 5:39:28am

“He knows after 14 years that no matter what he decides, we’re going to be friends, and as I was there to help him during the campaign, I’ll be there to help him as president, whether that means I’ll decide to take a position, if offered, in the administration,” Christie said in a phone interview with Harry Hurley, a friend who hosts a morning talk show on radio station WPG-FM (104.1 FM). Christie added that he has “spoken to the president-elect often in the last six days and what I’ve said to him is what I’ll say to you, which is: If there is a way that I can be helpful, that’s meaningful, then Mary Pat and I will consider it.”

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wheat-dogg  Nov 16, 2016 • 5:40:48am

re: #167 Backwoods_Sleuth

That last part means Trump said to Christie, “Don’t call us, we’ll call you.”

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makeitstop  Nov 16, 2016 • 5:40:55am

re: #167 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Bow and scrape, Big Chicken. Bow and scrape.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 16, 2016 • 5:43:57am

I wonder how many of Dump’s hastily scrounged White House staff will be underpaid immigrants.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 16, 2016 • 5:44:48am

re: #170 Pawn of the Oppressor

I wonder how many of Dump’s hastily scrounged White House staff will be underpaid immigrants.

Or Russian moles

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 16, 2016 • 5:44:50am

re: #170 Pawn of the Oppressor

I wonder how many of Dump’s hastily scrounged White House staff will be underpaid immigrants.

They will be top models, the very best, guaranteed 9.5 or 10!!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 16, 2016 • 5:45:26am

re: #170 Pawn of the Oppressor

I wonder how many of Dump’s hastily scrounged White House staff will be underpaid immigrants.

Well. The position of trophy wife is already filled. But who knows for how long.

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Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite  Nov 16, 2016 • 5:45:34am

re: #170 Pawn of the Oppressor

I wonder how many of Dump’s hastily scrounged White House staff will be underpaid immigrants.

Or over paid racists and anti-Semites.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 16, 2016 • 5:48:57am

“Remember, the beaners cook and the negroes carry the plates. No Jews, and no women under a six!”

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 16, 2016 • 5:49:28am

re: #171 wheat-dogg

Or Russian moles

Not counting the President, you mean? *cringe* *weep*

Edit: I wonder who will be the Press secretary. Whoever he is, he’ll be reading statements alone to an empty room. Kinda like North Korean propaganda, except with worse taste in decor.

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lawhawk  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:00:08am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

So, Trump tweets that the media reports about seeking clearances for his kids was wrong, and that his transition team is functioning smoothly.

Really? That’s why you’ve gone through Christie and Pence and who else to run the transition team in just the past week? That’s smooth?

You’ve got an inner circle of sycophants who want to gouge out everyone else’s eyes to get ahead, and you think all this is hunky dory, and this is how it’s done - let alone how it’s done professionally.

There’s a reason that professional natsec people are horrified at what they’re seeing and hearing. This is the opposite of professionalism. Trump is anything but knowledgeable and serious about any of this. And it will cost people lives - and we’re not even into the domestic policy stuff yet.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:04:52am

re: #177 lawhawk

There’s a reason that professional natsec people are horrified at what they’re seeing and hearing. This is the opposite of professionalism. Trump is anything but knowledgeable and serious about any of this. And it will cost people lives - and we’re not even into the domestic policy stuff yet.

Domestic policy is not going to drag us into wars…

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Belafon  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:05:25am

re: #178 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Domestic policy is not going to drag us into wars…

Just Civil ones.

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lizardofid  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:07:00am

Good morning all

A little sanity break. It’s a beautiful morning down here, and the local eagle pair has been doing a little house keeping.

wetlandcenter.com

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darthstar  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:11:33am
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darthstar  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:12:07am

My TL feels quieter already.

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Jenner7  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:13:19am

Are the press going to count Trump twitter rants as press conferences?

I wouldn’t be shocked, ya know.

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darthstar  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:16:02am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:22:21am
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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:24:04am

re: #177 lawhawk

Hit the ground… not running, not even walking but stumbling like that half step right before your knee hits the sidewalk.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:26:07am

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

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wheat-dogg  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:26:10am

sad but true

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Belafon  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:28:38am

re: #188 wheat-dogg

sad but true

I think reporters should rediscover that the dark corners are where they need to be looking. And to take what they see at face value, not 2+2=whatever they’re told.

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darthstar  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:30:15am

Filter seems to be kicking in. Going to add Breitbart to it because at this point I don’t give a fuck about that dead guy and until Trump rescinds Bannon’s appointment, it’s just noise.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:33:07am

re: #189 Belafon

I think reporters should rediscover that the dark corners are where they need to be looking. And to take what they see at face value, not 2+2=whatever they’re told.

Trump’s administration is going to be all about dark corners. Just the potential financial looting, for starters.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:34:39am

my last post didn’t work, let’s try this one.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:35:43am

re: #167 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Kicked to the curb with the trash and still pledging absolute loyalty.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:35:59am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:38:24am

re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have recieved and taken calls from many foreign leaders despite what the failing @nytimes said. Russia, U.K., China, Saudi Arabia, Japan,
— Donald J. Trump

“i” before “e” except after “c”.

You’re welcome.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:41:24am

re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth

The failing @nytimes story is so totally wrong on transition. It is going so smoothly. Also, I have spoken to many foreign leaders.
— Donald J. Trump

At least for me it is. I’m having a great time. Got my Twitter phone back. My people leave me alone.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:44:57am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:46:29am

One good thing about the election being over: I’m not tempted to go to 538 to see the latest polls.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:47:38am

Making fun of Hugh Hewitt (or his Cleveland Browns fandom) never really gets old.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:47:59am

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I hope no idiot visiting the site is smoking a cigarette.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:50:27am

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Why white women shouldn’t date black men” fliers discovered at Southern Methodist University

I am going to play Devil’s Advocate for a second here: Dating is not a right, it is a matter of personal preference. And there is no accounting for personal taste.

Not that I agree with the sentiments behind it, and the arguments presented there are based on racist principles.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:51:36am

FYI

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Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:52:29am

I just watched 5 minutes of Steve King being interviewed. Kill Me.

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Belafon  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:53:16am

re: #203 Edge of a dream AKA Cankles Mccellulite

I just watched 5 minutes of Steve King being interviewed. Kill Me.

I think you’re doing a fine job of that on your own. :)

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wheat-dogg  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:54:43am

re: #202 wheat-dogg

My friend who edits American News X will not be pleased at being on that list, as he considers it satire mixed with opinion, but I recognize that some readers wouldn’t know the difference between fact and opinion if it smacked them in the head with a 2x4.

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sagehen  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:54:49am

So MSNBC decided it’s time, finally, to practice a little journalism (probably just a little, I’m sure they’ll be over it in a few minutes)…

Trump owes Deutschbank $650 million; Deutschbank owes the DoJ $14 billion in mortgage/bond fraud penalties. The bank is trying to renegotiate their fines and have them reduced, does Trump have a conflict of interest?

Trump owes the Bank of China (state-owned) $950 million, and he’s threatening to have the US file charges against China accusing them of currency manipulation. Does he have a conflict of interest?

We don’t know how many other conflicts he may have because we haven’t seen his taxes.

Then a whole discussion of what a “blind trust” is, and why his kids running his business isn’t the least bit “blind.”

I have a nerf specifically for throwing at the TV in these circumstances. Newsweek published an Eichenwald story about this very thing (a much longer story, with dozens of examples) about a month ago. From the rest of the media, crickets. NOW they want to talk about it?!?!?

Good thing he didn’t have a private e-mail server.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:56:52am

re: #205 wheat-dogg

My friend who edits American News X will not be pleased at being on that list, as he considers it satire mixed with opinion, but I recognize that some readers wouldn’t know the difference between fact and opinion if it smacked them in the head with a 2x4.

You mean people for whom the statement “Obama: Worst President Ever” is construed as a statement of fact?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:57:12am

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Did actually read all the thread. Doesn’t show what he said in class, but a Trumpist quoted tweets that gave them an opening.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:59:02am

re: #208 Decatur Deb

Did actually read all the thread. Doesn’t show what he said in class, but a Trumpist quoted tweets that gave them an opening.

I read some other tweets (that weren’t included in that particular thread) on his TL that explained some more.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:59:23am

re: #202 wheat-dogg

FYI

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Here’s the direct link to that list of fake, satirical and dodgy “news” sites. Infowars and Prison Planet are included.

docs.google.com

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wheat-dogg  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:00:31am

re: #207 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

You mean people for whom the statement “Obama: Worst President Ever” is construed as a statement of fact?

Yup. Sarcasm is lost on such people.

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Donkey With No Name  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:02:14am

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Q for the Texan lizards: I’ve sort of gotten the impression that SMU is thought of as the finishing school for the daughters of Dallas-area moneyed families; is that remotely true? (And apologies to any SMU grads …)

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Franklin  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:02:16am

My new fave:

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Donkey With No Name  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:04:24am

re: #201 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am going to play Devil’s Advocate for a second here: Dating is not a right, it is a matter of personal preference. And there is no accounting for personal taste.

I assume you mean being dated is not a right :-)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:05:40am
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Decatur Deb  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:07:05am

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

I read some other tweets (that weren’t included in that particular thread) on his TL that explained some more.

Think I’ll keep looking for a hero.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:09:56am

re: #207 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

You mean people for whom the statement “Obama: Worst President Ever” is construed as a statement of fact?

Lurk more Freep. That would be about 20-40% of the RW.

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b.d.  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:11:51am

So Christie got canned because he sent Trump’s son-in-law’s dad to jail and Rogers got let go because his government committee on BENGHAZI told the truth.

This is a Mexican soap opera come to life.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:13:22am
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Eventual Carrion  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:14:10am

re: #215 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But they hated Hillary because she was not transparent. Fucking lying thieves

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Decatur Deb  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:15:42am

re: #218 b.d.

So Christie got canned because he sent Trump’s son-in-law’s dad to jail and Rogers got let go because his government committee on BENGHAZI told the truth.

This is a Mexican soap opera come to life.

Wait until they turn out in spandex tights and masks.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:17:30am

this is fine….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:20:48am

Wilbur Ross Jr. of Sago Mine infamy.

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Franklin  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:21:50am

Subtweeting Chris Cillizza

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:23:21am

re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth

12 Coal Miners Died On This Man’s Watch in 2006. Now Trump Wants to Make Him Commerce Secretary. .

Trump has people convinced that their enemy in the War on Coal is government safety and environmental regulation, not the market.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:23:50am
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Eventual Carrion  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:24:28am

re: #223 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Wilbur Ross Jr. of Sago Mine infamy.

Ex BP exec for EPA director next?

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Franklin  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:24:45am

(FILE PHOTO)

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:25:05am

Jan F—-ING Brewer, ladies and gents. 😾

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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:26:32am

re: #224 Franklin

Subtweeting Chris Cillizza

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Yes but not all White people who refer to Black people as “apes” are racists.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:28:03am
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Dr Lizardo  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:29:40am

All aboard the Trump train.

*headdsk*

Donald Trump has reportedly asked an Islamophobic conspiracy theorist to help him choose the next government of the United States.

The president-elect is believed to have appointed Centre for Security Policy founder Frank Gaffney to his transition team, to oversee the appointment of his national security advisers.

independent.co.uk

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Franklin  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:30:11am

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Intercept hates Schumer a Senate Minority Leader. So am I to assume it’s a solid pick?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:31:12am

re: #224 Franklin

Subtweeting Chris Cillizza

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Was the Adam Swerer comment supposed to be snark? A lot of people are starting feel brave enough to say that out loud.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:32:56am

re: #233 Franklin

The Intercept hates Schumer a Senate Minority Leader. So am I to assume it’s a solid pick?

He’s a toolbag. He’s one that pushed JASTA and the override of Obama’s veto.

And there was something about him not sharing campaign funds with other Senate candidates.

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Franklin  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:33:19am

re: #234 Decatur Deb

Was the Adam Swerer comment supposed to be snark? A lot of people are starting feel brave enough to say that out loud.

He’s making fun of Chris Cillizza’s tweet here:

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Belafon  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:33:27am

re: #234 Decatur Deb

Was the Adam Swerer comment supposed to be snark? A lot of people are starting feel brave enough to say that out loud.

Yes.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:34:05am

re: #229 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Jan F—-ING Brewer, ladies and gents. 😾

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Better an allegiance to Mexico than Russia.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:35:04am

re: #238 Sir John Barron

Better an allegiance to Mexico than Russia.

It’s not allegiance to Russia, it is vassalage

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Decatur Deb  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:35:47am

re: #236 Franklin

He’s making fun of Chris Cillizza’s tweet here:

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Ah. Cillizza is a known ass. Don’t know Serwer from Adam.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:36:18am

re: #229 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Jan F—-ING Brewer, ladies and gents. 😾

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But a President who owes favors to the Russian security state is OK.

ALL RIGHTY THEN.

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Jayleia  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:37:46am

re: #241 Pawn of the Oppressor

But a President who owes favors to the is a wholly owned subsidiary of Russian security state is OK.

ALL RIGHTY THEN.

FTFY

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Belafon  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:38:10am

re: #206 sagehen

So MSNBC decided it’s time, finally, to practice a little journalism (probably just a little, I’m sure they’ll be over it in a few minutes)…

Trump owes Deutschbank $650 million; Deutschbank owes the DoJ $14 billion in mortgage/bond fraud penalties. The bank is trying to renegotiate their fines and have them reduced, does Trump have a conflict of interest?

Trump owes the Bank of China (state-owned) $950 million, and he’s threatening to have the US file charges against China accusing them of currency manipulation. Does he have a conflict of interest?

We don’t know how many other conflicts he may have because we haven’t seen his taxes.

Then a whole discussion of what a “blind trust” is, and why his kids running his business isn’t the least bit “blind.”

I have a nerf specifically for throwing at the TV in these circumstances. Newsweek published an Eichenwald story about this very thing (a much longer story, with dozens of examples) about a month ago. From the rest of the media, crickets. NOW they want to talk about it?!?!?

Good thing he didn’t have a private e-mail server.

The question becomes, could we find out if Trump’s debt disappears?

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Belafon  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:39:11am

re: #229 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Jan F—-ING Brewer, ladies and gents. 😾

And the allegiance of the rest is to America, Janet. What’s your point?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:43:41am

re: #243 Belafon

The question becomes, could we find out if Trump’s debt disappears?

It does not matter; in the new Alternate Media Reality, the two events will be presented as being totally unrelated and independent of each other…

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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:44:04am

re: #229 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Jan Brewer: Allegiance of some anti-Trump protesters is to Mexico, not US cnn.com
— andrew kaczynski

How would someone go about establishing allegiance to Mexico? This is just bizarre. Wait, it’s today’s GOP. Nevermind.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:44:30am

re: #244 Belafon

And the allegiance of the rest is to America, Janet. What’s your point?

The implication is that these people somehow do not deserve our Constitutional rights and protections…

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:47:09am
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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:48:37am

re: #246 Sir John Barron

How would someone go about establishing allegiance to Mexico? This is just bizarre. Wait, it’s today’s GOP. Nevermind.

She’s the same one who screamed at President Obama to his face while on a tarmac. And intentionally positioned herself for the cameras.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:48:58am
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sagehen  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:49:02am
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Jayleia  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:49:31am

re: #247 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Worse, implying that they are traitors to the United States, and since Treason is a capital crime. But without meeting the Constitutional definition of Treason…maybe some people might want to do a little free-lance justiceing…

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:49:55am

re: #228 Franklin

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Oh so accurate on many levels.

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sagehen  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:49:56am

re: #243 Belafon

The question becomes, could we find out if Trump’s debt disappears?

Only if he were to release his taxes.

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ObserverArt  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:50:24am

Morning!

So, My TV was turned on as soon as I awoke this morning and since I had Rachel on as I crashed last night, Morning Joke was on. I was still groggy and tried to listen, but damn that first 15 or minutes was just a jumbled mess. Which by the way is not unusual in itself, but this was chaos uncontrolled!

I think they were ragging on Rudy G and his getting paid for speaking to rogue countries for big bucks, compared that to Clinton, and then put it into context with Trump choosing a cabinet, etc. But I am not sure. I also couldn’t figure out if they were making it all a joke or were serious. Were they being critical of Trump or saying this is politics as usual because there are always screw ups when choosing a new government?

Can I get an interpretation? Anyone watch past the first half hour that can put that crap into some kind of logical conclusion?

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:53:30am

Is it the actual intention of the Trump transition team to create a clusterfuck of such magnitude that Obama will have to declare a national emergency?

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Belafon  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:54:57am

re: #256 The Vicious Babushka

Is it the actual intention of the Trump transition team to create a clusterfuck of such magnitude that Obama will have to declare a national emergency?

According to Bannon’s own beliefs, I believe the point is to destroy the functioning federal government.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 16, 2016 • 7:55:05am

re: #255 ObserverArt

Were they being critical of Trump or saying this is politics as usual because there are always screw ups when choosing a new government?

Trump has a white supremacist as a Senior Advisor and Obama had that idiot Geithner with his SNAFU taxes.

So, both sides.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:00:48am

re: #250 FormerDirtDart

Someone ask Paul Ryan about this so he can decline to comment.


— Jamelle Bouie

Ryan can say he doesn’t know Kobach, etc.

/

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makeitstop  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:02:26am

re: #256 The Vicious Babushka

Is it the actual intention of the Trump transition team to create a clusterfuck of such magnitude that Obama will have to declare a national emergency?

I asked that question yesterday - what if this chaos is the actual plan?

You got Bannon, who’s on the record as saying he wants to tear it all down, and Flynn who’s pretty much in Putin’s pocket - and who knows who else is on Moscow’s payroll at this point?

I’m getting more convinced that the want this chaos. Probably to deflect away from something else, but I have no idea what that could be..

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:02:52am

re: #257 Belafon

According to Bannon’s own beliefs, I believe the point is to destroy the functioning federal government.

Isn’t that, oh I dunno, actual TREASON?

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:03:24am

re: #260 makeitstop

I’m getting more convinced that the want this chaos. Probably to deflect away from something else, but I have no idea what that could be..

Looting the Treasury.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:03:50am

re: #261 The Vicious Babushka

Isn’t that, oh I dunno, TREASON?

Not if Republicans do it.

/

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plansbandc  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:07:06am

We are the lizard. The snakes are what we will face for at least four years.

Iguana chased by snakes - Planet Earth II: Islands - BBC One

We will survive.

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electrotek  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:07:29am

re: #260 makeitstop

I asked that question yesterday - what if this chaos is the actual plan?

You got Bannon, who’s on the record as saying he wants to tear it all down, and Flynn who’s pretty much in Putin’s pocket - and who knows who else is on Moscow’s payroll at this point?

I’m getting more convinced that the want this chaos. Probably to deflect away from something else, but I have no idea what that could be..

They basically want a World War, but without the 94% tax rates to accompany it.

Because why tax and spend when you can borrow and spend your way through like a teenager on a credit card at the local mall?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:07:54am

re: #264 plansbandc

We are the lizard. The snakes are what we will face for at least for years.

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We will survive.

Trump Snakes?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:08:07am

re: #264 plansbandc

Thanks for posting a link that works. My old one got pulled.

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Jayleia  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:10:57am

re: #261 The Vicious Babushka

Isn’t that, oh I dunno, actual TREASON?

Surprisingly, not exactly.

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

War is pretty obviously out, since we’re currently talking just fucking shit up. Does he adhere to our enemies? Maybe, maybe not. If he’s just fucking shit up, with no loyalty to anything or anyone, maybe not treason, if he’s doing it to help an enemy plan, then probably.

Actual Legal Lizardim are welcome to weigh in on this subject, however.

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Franklin  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:11:09am
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FormerDirtDart  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:11:41am

“…Conservative writer Bill Kauffmann floated Webb’s name as a possible cabinet pick in his introduction of the former Virginia senator. (at a foreign policy symposium in Washington, D.C. on Tuesday) Later on, a questioner mentioned an “incredible rumor going around” that Webb might be offered secretary of defense, and asked whether he would accept the role. Webb did not answer the question.

It all had the look and feel of a trial balloon being launched…”

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sagehen  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:14:37am

re: #264 plansbandc

We are the lizard. The snakes are what we will face for at least four years.

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We will survive.

Most of us, anyway.

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ObserverArt  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:15:48am

re: #261 The Vicious Babushka

Isn’t that, oh I dunno, actual TREASON?

Not if the President does it!

/ x infinity.

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Tigger2  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:17:40am

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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:20:58am

re: #270 FormerDirtDart

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Yawn

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:21:02am

re: #259 Sir John Barron

Ryan can say he doesn’t know Kobach, etc.

/

He could always go the Hope Hicks route and decline to comment.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:21:25am

re: #248 FormerDirtDart

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Steve King believes Greeks were blond before Ottomans…..

Idiot. Everyone knows they were marble.

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Belafon  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:22:13am

re: #268 Jayleia

Surprisingly, not exactly.

War is pretty obviously out, since we’re currently talking just fucking shit up. Does he adhere to our enemies? Maybe, maybe not. If he’s just fucking shit up, with no loyalty to anything or anyone, maybe not treason, if he’s doing it to help an enemy plan, then probably.

Actual Legal Lizardim are welcome to weigh in on this subject, however.

What we’re going to have to do is catch them in something that crosses into high crimes and misdemeanors. I think they’ll make it pretty easy. The problem is that Congress is under Republican control. And even if we got rid of Trump, Pence won’t remove a lot of his cabinet people.

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stpaulbear  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:22:39am

Does anyone here know how effective that the Union of Concerned Scientists has been in affecting policy change? They have a good rating as to costs vs programs, but I’ve never heard of them before today. I’m still looking for places to put my money to fight Trump/Ryan/McConnell.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:22:53am

re: #276 Barefoot Grin

Steve King believes Greeks were blond before Ottomans…..

Idiot. Everyone knows they were marble.

WHITE marble, dammit.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:23:51am

re: #279 Pawn of the Oppressor

WHITE marble, dammit.

Yes! Let’s be realist-ic.

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Belafon  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:25:03am

re: #278 stpaulbear

Does anyone here know how effective that the Union of Concerned Scientists has been in affecting policy change? They have a good rating as to costs vs programs, but I’ve never heard of them before today. I’m still looking for places to put my money to fight Trump/Ryan/McConnell.

I put money into the SPLC, and I am going to look for groups that are working on voter registration and education. I’ll be looking at various levels of Democratic groups as well.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:28:22am

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Franklin  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:28:24am
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Romantic Heretic  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:28:37am

re: #261 The Vicious Babushka

Isn’t that, oh I dunno, actual TREASON?

Only if they’re on the losing side.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:29:41am

re: #262 The Vicious Babushka

Looting the Treasury.

I’ve often thought that a million Viking longships coming ashore in the US would cause less damage than the GOP and their policies.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:31:10am
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Belafon  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:34:42am

re: #283 Franklin

Any minorities?

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:35:17am

re: #282 Myron Falwell (no relation)

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Too bad Heinrich Hoffman isn’t around to photograph….

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retired cynic  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:38:35am

re: #260 makeitstop

I asked that question yesterday - what if this chaos is the actual plan?

You got Bannon, who’s on the record as saying he wants to tear it all down, and Flynn who’s pretty much in Putin’s pocket - and who knows who else is on Moscow’s payroll at this point?

I’m getting more convinced that the want this chaos. Probably to deflect away from something else, but I have no idea what that could be..

That appeared to be the point of the campaign: chaos as deflection.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:41:08am

re: #286 Myron Falwell (no relation)

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Glenn Greenwald, too.

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ObserverArt  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:41:37am

re: #286 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Frank Conniff @FrankConniff
Reports say Trump transition team has been narrowed down to loyalists and surrogates, so I guess Jill Stein should be expecting a call soon.
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So what positions will Ms. Bullet Necklass Katrina Pierson and good ol’ Russian Specialist Boris Epshteyn take?

Surely two of the more interesting and important additions to Trump this election.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:42:03am

re: #282 Myron Falwell (no relation)

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I’d vomit, but there’s nothing down there left.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:44:03am

re: #283 Franklin

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I’m actually not going to complain about this. Happy to see Manchin join the team. Will be interested to see how he contributes. Since I can’t see the Twitter pic, what position is Manchin occupying?

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Belafon  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:45:00am

re: #293 Sir John Barron

I’m actually not going to complain about this. Happy to see Manchin join the team. Will be interested to see how he contributes.

It does reduce his chance of defection.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:46:38am

re: #283 Franklin

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Also, too, is Bernie Sanders actually a Democrat? Thought he went back to being Independent. I know he caucuses with the Dems, but….

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Decatur Deb  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:51:07am

re: #293 Sir John Barron

I’m actually not going to complain about this. Happy to see Manchin join the team. Will be interested to see how he contributes. Since I can’t see the Twitter pic, what position is Manchin occupying?

Narrow pineboard fence.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:52:38am

re: #293 Sir John Barron

Vice-Chair of the Democratic Policy and Communications Committee.

It looks like they are trying to get Progressives and Blue Collars under one roof.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:54:40am

re: #282 Myron Falwell (no relation)

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The Kim Jong Un’ing of America has begun.

The “press pool” will be given access to Dear Leader but they will only be allowed to carry little notebooks.

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ObserverArt  Nov 16, 2016 • 8:58:10am

So, I just managed to read most of this thread and then I got up to go down to my kitchen to make a cup of tea and damn if I didn’t stub my toe on a ceiling light right there in the middle of the freaking floor.

And I thought, what in hell is the damn ceiling light doing there in the middle of the floor, so I looked up. WTF, I noticed all my furniture was on the freaking ceiling…rug too.

Where am I and what has happened to my world??? It’s all upside-freaking-down.

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makeitstop  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:01:49am

re: #291 ObserverArt

So what positions will Ms. Bullet Necklass Katrina Pierson and good ol’ Russian Specialist Boris Epshteyn take?

Surely two of the more interesting and important additions to Trump this election.

Pierson has all but disappeared, hasn’t she? She wasn’t even doing the TV rounds by the end of the campaign.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:02:37am
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Stanley Sea  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:02:56am

re: #260 makeitstop

I asked that question yesterday - what if this chaos is the actual plan?

You got Bannon, who’s on the record as saying he wants to tear it all down, and Flynn who’s pretty much in Putin’s pocket - and who knows who else is on Moscow’s payroll at this point?

I’m getting more convinced that the want this chaos. Probably to deflect away from something else, but I have no idea what that could be..

trump’s mental incapacity.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:03:05am
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meteor  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:03:26am

White supremacists are sad, so I’m happy.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:05:20am

re: #298 The Vicious Babushka

The Kim Jong Un’ing of America has begun.

The “press pool” will be given access to Dear Leader but they will only be allowed to carry little notebooks.

Speaking of which…

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:06:09am

I think the chance of a coup in the next few years is rising.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:06:15am
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ObserverArt  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:06:58am

re: #307 Dr. Matt

Trump official tells MSNBC host: Steve Bannon is like Rachel Maddow for ‘the other side’

He’s correct. Bannon is a Nazi and Maddow is not a Nazi.

Heh. Good one.

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Belafon  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:08:54am

re: #307 Dr. Matt

Trump official tells MSNBC host: Steve Bannon is like Rachel Maddow for ‘the other side’

He’s correct. Bannon is a Nazi and Maddow is not a Nazi.

We all know how much access Maddow had to the Obama presidency. It was really interesting when she got her security clearance.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:09:54am

Think Progress and Raw Story have been included on the List of Fake News Websites

This is straight up 1937 Germany propaganda shit. We are living in scary times.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:10:26am

re: #282 Myron Falwell (no relation)

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Sorry to immediately go Godwin, but here’s the first response to the original tweet:

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makeitstop  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:10:36am

re: #302 Stanley Sea

trump’s mental incapacity.

You could be right. If so, this is going to be a very long four years.

At least Reagan got into his second term before he started deteriorating.

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Belafon  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:11:26am

re: #306 Ziggy_TARDIS

I think the chance of a coup in the next few years is rising.

They’re not talking about a coup, so much as “No, Mr. President, I will no fire on airplanes just because they get close.”

I am very ambivalent on this one. I do consider the military following the orders of the civilian government to be very important. But how far is too far.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:13:24am

re: #306 Ziggy_TARDIS

Richard Engel just said on NBC that some generals are reading the Constitution to determine their authority to override the President. Wow.

I think the chance of a coup in the next few years is rising.

No, it’s not. And you don’t want it to. The US Army as a long-term organization does not even exist in the Constitution.

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Belafon  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:13:27am

re: #310 Dr. Matt

Think Progress and Raw Story have been included on the List of Fake News Websites

This is straight up 1937 Germany propaganda shit. We are living in scary times.

If the creator is going to include sites because they have clickbait headlines, then Fox, CNN, and MSNBC need to be included.

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Myron Falwell (no relation)  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:13:38am
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Dr. Matt  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:13:41am

Has anyone googled “muslim registry” today? Trump is a threat to this country and the planet. Plain and simple.

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electrotek  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:18:18am

re: #317 Dr. Matt

Has anyone googled “muslim registry” today? Trump is a threat to this country and the planet. Plain and simple.

He wants to create more recruits for murderous death cults and then the same rejects will complain when God forbid a terrorist attack happens here.

When that happens, will we as a nation exhibit the same kind of sympathy and outpouring from the rest of the world as we did after 9/11? Or will we have people say we had it coming for electing Trump?

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:19:34am

re: #111 freetoken

For the first time since yesterday glanced at the headlines. They all seem to imply a lot of chaos inside Team Trump right now.

None of us are surprised at this.

Trump shuffles transition team, eyes loyalists for Cabinet

So, The Presidency is going to be run like The Apprentice.

And diplomacy will be run like a WWE match.

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Jayleia  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:21:10am

re: #319 Eventual Carrion

And diplomacy will be run like a WWE match.

I’ll get the folding chairs, you get the tables.

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gocart mozart  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:21:14am
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:22:50am

re: #268 Jayleia

Surprisingly, not exactly.

War is pretty obviously out, since we’re currently talking just fucking shit up. Does he adhere to our enemies? Maybe, maybe not. If he’s just fucking shit up, with no loyalty to anything or anyone, maybe not treason, if he’s doing it to help an enemy plan, then probably.

Actual Legal Lizardim are welcome to weigh in on this subject, however.

We don’t have any enemies—haven’t since 1945. That’s what happens when you insist on running wars without declaring them.

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gocart mozart  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:23:48am

They don’t deserve any respect.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:27:06am

re: #323 gocart mozart

They don’t deserve any respect.

Wasn’t Todd Kincannon perma banned from Twitter???

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wrenchwench  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:27:12am
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CuriousLurker  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:27:13am

re: #317 Dr. Matt

Has anyone googled “muslim registry” today? Trump is a threat to this country and the planet. Plain and simple.

*SIGH* Guess I need to create a Google Alert for those keywords.

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Franklin  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:30:35am

re: #324 Dr. Matt

Wasn’t Todd Kincannon perma banned from Twitter???

C’mon! Todd Kincannon was perma-banned. Not his show.

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Jayleia  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:32:08am

re: #327 Franklin

Of course, because why would Twitter give us reasons to think they aren’t a dumpster fire…

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Dr. Matt  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:33:47am
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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:34:00am

re: #323 gocart mozart

They don’t deserve any respect.

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Todd Kincannon has a radio show?

But of course he does.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:35:40am

re: #327 Franklin

C’mon! Todd Kincannon was perma-banned. Not his show.

Silly me.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:36:09am

re: #330 Sir John Barron

Todd Kincannon has a radio show?

But of course he does.

“Live, from the parking lot of Chik-fil-A, it’s Tooooodd Kincannon!”

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electrotek  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:37:44am

re: #332 Barefoot Grin

“Live, from the parking lot of Chik-fil-A, it’s Tooooodd Kincannon!”

Figured it would be outside a New Balance store.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:39:25am

re: #330 Sir John Barron

Todd Kincannon has a radio show?

But of course he does.

Wingnut welfare will support any lowlife.

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electrotek  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:42:25am

re: #334 Dr. Matt

Wingnut welfare will support any lowlife.

Off Topic but you feel comfortable driving a RHD car in the UK after the feedback provided?

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wrenchwench  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:45:35am

Been there, done that, but I had to share when I was there. Until a nice Greek boy took me up there around 2 AM. Knew the way in.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:48:04am

re: #335 electrotek

Off Topic but you feel comfortable driving a RHD car in the UK after the feedback provided?

I think so. Still a bit apprehensive though. I spoke with some colleagues as well and they said it’s a pretty quick learning curve. One colleague said the one time he screwed up is when he stopped off to fuel up and when he got back on the road, it was empty and instinct kicked in. I’ll have to beg my GF to stay off her phone and be my wingwoman.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:52:09am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:53:50am

And that, kids, is how Hillary stole the election!

Oh…wait…

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:54:13am

re: #336 wrenchwench

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Been there, done that, but I had to share when I was there. Until a nice Greek boy took me up there around 2 AM. Knew the way in.

Oh wait, that’s the U.S. Capitol.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:55:57am
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electrotek  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:56:08am

re: #337 Dr. Matt

I think so. Still a bit apprehensive though. I spoke with some colleagues as well and they said it’s a pretty quick learning curve. One colleague said the one time he screwed up is when he stopped off to fuel up and when he got back on the road, it was empty and instinct kicked in. I’ll have to beg my GF to stay off her phone and be my wingwoman.

You’ll be fine man. Like others had suggested, you should get an automatic if it’s a big concern. Get a turbodiesel for fuel economy, of course. I’m thinking a VW Golf 1.6 TDI or a Peugeot 206 or even a BMW 120d.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:57:05am
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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:57:49am

re: #317 Dr. Matt

Has anyone googled “muslim registry” today? Trump is a threat to this country and the planet. Plain and simple.

re: #326 CuriousLurker

*SIGH* Guess I need to create a Google Alert for this keywords.

Proposal is a registry for Muslims visting the US. So when proud grandparents come to see the kids and grandkids the FBI will be keeping special track of them. More so than the angry guy that talks crap about Sharia etc etc on Facebook that has half an arsenal a block over to the south. *gag*

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lawhawk  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:58:55am

re: #310 Dr. Matt

Think Progress and Raw Story have been included on the List of Fake News Websites

This is straight up 1937 Germany propaganda shit. We are living in scary times.

And SMOTI is busy complaining Breitbart, Infowars, Twitchy, and Prison Planet is included in that as well.

These people - mainstreaming white supremacists, conspiracy theorists, including 9/11 troofers, and other nonsensical ravings of lunatics.

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Belafon  Nov 16, 2016 • 9:59:12am

re: #343 Backwoods_Sleuth

What does it look like? Specifically, what positions do minorities have? This white man wants to know.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:00:56am

re: #345 lawhawk

And SMOTI is busy complaining Breitbart, Infowars, Twitchy, and Prison Planet is included in that as well.

Gosh, can’t imagine why those fine, informative, non-bi-partisan websites would be considered Fake News.

///

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electrotek  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:01:07am

re: #344 Unshaken Defiance

Proposal is a registry for Muslims visting the US. So when proud grandparents come to see the kids and grandkids the FBI will be keeping sepcial track of them. More so than the angry guy that talks crap about Sharia etc etc on Facebook that has half an arsenal a block over to the south. *gag*

Have fun when the US tourist industry goes in a free-fall.

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Donkey With No Name  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:03:35am

re: #282 Myron Falwell (no relation)

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Do we know that he owns the things, and not the Trump Foundation?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:03:41am

re: #282 Myron Falwell (no relation)

Fox News will air a one-hour special where TMZ’s founder interviews Trump “as he showcases the objects in his home.”

Imagine Fox comments if Obama had shown off his crib on TV…

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makeitstop  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:03:54am

re: #341 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bob Dylan can’t make it to Nobel ceremony—he has “other commitments”

I think his appearance there was always contingent on his schedule, and I’m pretty sure he’s in the middle of a tour right now.

Added bonus - it plays into that ‘iconoclast’ thing he’s got going. :)

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lawhawk  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:04:19am

This is my shocked face.

Read this series of tweets, and weep. The stunning and willful ignorance/blindness to what Trump being in the White House and why people voted for him.

Pro choice women vote for Trump because business! Yeah, too bad Trump’s a GOPer who’s going to give women the business. The GOP is salivating over destroying Roe and birth control access and restricting women’s right to choose. But yeah, business!

Guess whose business is going to thrive - not the working class, but the gilded robber barons of the technology age.

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electrotek  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:08:10am

re: #352 lawhawk

This is my shocked face.

Read this series of tweets, and weep. The stunning and willful ignorance/blindness to what Trump being in the White House and why people voted for him.

Pro choice women vote for Trump because business! Yeah, too bad Trump’s a GOPer who’s going to give women the business. The GOP is salivating over destroying Roe and birth control access and restricting women’s right to choose. But yeah, business!

Guess whose business is going to thrive - not the working class, but the gilded robber barons of the technology age.

Were they all white girls?

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Stanley Sea  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:08:37am

re: #351 makeitstop

I think his appearance there was always contingent on his schedule, and I’m pretty sure he’s in the middle of a tour right now.

Added bonus - it plays into that ‘iconoclast’ thing he’s got going. :)

I think it’s rude.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:09:54am

re: #342 electrotek

You’ll be fine man. Like others had suggested, you should get an automatic if it’s a big concern. Get a turbodiesel for fuel economy, of course. I’m thinking a VW Golf 1.6 TDI or a Peugeot 206 or even a BMW 120d.

I reserved an automatic “Luxury Wagon” via Kayak. We were looking for the best deal since we’re spending a ton. A VW Sportwagen was pictured.

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electrotek  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:09:56am

re: #345 lawhawk

And SMOTI is busy complaining Breitbart, Infowars, Twitchy, and Prison Planet is included in that as well.

These people - mainstreaming white supremacists, conspiracy theorists, including 9/11 troofers, and other nonsensical ravings of lunatics.

Does SMOTI still have that photo of the Iranian protestor from 1999 holding up a bloodied shirt in his website banner? I just don’t want to visit his website to confirm my suspicions. If so, he’s a hypocrite of course.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:10:37am

re: #317 Dr. Matt

Has anyone googled “muslim registry” today? Trump is a threat to this country and the planet. Plain and simple.

They will argue that it is not religion-based, it applies to people of any religion who just happen to come from a predominantly Muslim country…

I can already hear the spin doctors winding up the turd-polishing turbines

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Decatur Deb  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:10:50am

re: #336 wrenchwench

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Been there, done that, but I had to share when I was there. Until a nice Greek boy took me up there around 2 AM. Knew the way in.

Did he show you the Porch of His Maidens?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:11:20am
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Belafon  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:12:00am

re: #359 Backwoods_Sleuth

Plus his anti-Semitic remarks.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:12:40am

re: #351 makeitstop

I think his appearance there was always contingent on his schedule, and I’m pretty sure he’s in the middle of a tour right now.

Added bonus - it plays into that ‘iconoclast’ thing he’s got going. :)

You can be an iconoclast ‘til about 50, then it’s re-badged “asshole”.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:12:50am

re: #348 electrotek

Have fun when the US tourist industry goes in a free-fall.

Not to mention the law of unintended consequences. It starts with Muslims visiting the US, then US citizens that are Muslim, then…….

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makeitstop  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:13:34am

re: #354 Stanley Sea

I think it’s rude.

I can understand that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:13:45am

“These college students. I find it incredible. I dunno what would happen if a real war ever came. You think back to the greatest generation. And now you have these people, they’re having crying sessions, giving them comfort dogs, they’re giving them group therapy, they’re giving them consolation, because they’re so upset that Hillary Clinton lost the election,” said King.

“C’mon, have some guts, have some nerve, get out there, we’re supposed to be a great country. Are these the morons we’re counting on to be leaders in the future?”

asshole continues to prove he’s an asshole.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:15:07am

re: #364 Backwoods_Sleuth

“C’mon, have some guts, have some nerve, get out there, we’re supposed to be a great country. Are these the morons we’re counting on to be leaders in the future?”

Trump and the Deplorables said we are not a great country though. What gives?

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Timothy Watson  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:15:29am

re: #352 lawhawk

This is my shocked face.

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Read this series of tweets, and weep. The stunning and willful ignorance/blindness to what Trump being in the White House and why people voted for him.

Pro choice women vote for Trump because business! Yeah, too bad Trump’s a GOPer who’s going to give women the business. The GOP is salivating over destroying Roe and birth control access and restricting women’s right to choose. But yeah, business!

Guess whose business is going to thrive - not the working class, but the gilded robber barons of the technology age.

It’s really unbelievable how fucking stupid white people are.

(If the avatar picture doesn’t make it obvious, I am white.)

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Belafon  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:16:44am

re: #364 Backwoods_Sleuth

asshole continues to prove he’s an asshole.

King would go crying into a corner at the first sign of having to do something like military duty.

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electrotek  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:17:30am

re: #362 Dr. Matt

Not to mention the law of unintended consequences. It starts with Muslims visiting the US, then US citizens that are Muslim, then…….

How would that work for nations that have sizable Muslim minorities?

How would this registry for Lipka Tatars from eastern Poland?

Huis from China?

Gorani Muslims from Serbia?

Bulgarian Turks?

Circassians, Tatars, and other Caucasian Muslim groups ?

What about Muslims from Singapore?

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wrenchwench  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:17:39am

re: #358 Decatur Deb

Did he show you the Porch of His Maidens?

Caryatids? Saw them day and night.

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Franklin  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:18:57am

Doing some research on Trade Deficits and came across this UpShot article. Good reading:

nytimes.com

Great section here on the Triffin dilemma:

Wouldn’t it be better if the U.S. didn’t run a deficit?

It’s not clear that that’s even an option, because the dollar isn’t used just in trade between the United States and other countries.

The dollar is a global reserve currency, meaning that it is used around the world in transactions that have nothing to do with the United States. When a Malaysian company does business with a German company, in many cases it will do business in dollars; when wealthy people in Dubai or Singapore’s government investment fund want to sock away money, they do so in large part in dollar assets.

That creates upward pressure on the dollar for reasons unrelated to trade flows between the United States and its partners. That, in turn, makes the dollar stronger, and American exporters less competitive, than they would be in a world where nobody used the dollar for anything except commerce involving the United States.

The roughly $500 billion trade deficit that the United States runs each year isn’t just about poorly negotiated trade deals and currency manipulation by this or that country. It’s also, to some degree, a byproduct of the central role the United States plays in the global financial system.

There’s even a name for this: the Triffin dilemma. In the mid-20th century, the economist Robert Triffin warned that the provider of the global reserve currency would need to run perpetual trade deficits to keep the world financial system from freezing, with those trade deficits potentially fueling domestic booms and busts.

The key idea is that if a President Trump or any other future leader really wants to reduce our trade deficits in a major way, that leader is going to have to rethink the very underpinnings of global finance.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:20:16am

re: #369 wrenchwench

Caryatids? Saw them day and night.

As long as he kept his Erechtheum under control…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:22:59am

re: #364 Backwoods_Sleuth

Congressman mocks anti-Trump college students as ‘morons’

“These college students. I find it incredible. I dunno what would happen if a real war ever came…”

they would all get exemptions for their bone spurs, of course…

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Shiplord Kirel  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:26:29am

A registry for Muslims? I’m in! Where do I sign up? While we’re at it, let’s take a look at some green Muslim armbands. (I’m pretty sure official sources wouldn’t sell to us.)

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electrotek  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:27:05am

re: #372 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

they would all get exemptions for their bone spurs, of course…

We all know what would happen if a real war came…

We wouldn’t see the khaki shorts wearing, salmon buttoned-down shirt sporting, my-daddy-is-a-lawyer types of spoiled brats take their Sperry’s off and fight in the wars they purport to support.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:30:26am

re: #362 Dr. Matt

Not to mention the law of unintended consequences. It starts with Muslims visiting the US, then US citizens that are Muslim, then…….

I am sure that they will phrase it as “countries with high risk of terrorism”

but we all know that that means

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electrotek  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:30:29am

re: #355 Dr. Matt

I reserved an automatic “Luxury Wagon” via Kayak. We were looking for the best deal since we’re spending a ton. A VW Sportwagen was pictured.

Most likely it will be a Golf Sportwagen, but a TDI I’m sure lol

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Decatur Deb  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:30:53am

re: #375 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am sure that they will phrase it as “countries with high risk of terrorism”

but we all know that that means

Belfast?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:31:07am

re: #282 Myron Falwell (no relation)

BARRRRRRFFFFFF

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more on that:

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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:31:24am

re: #364 Backwoods_Sleuth

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asshole continues to prove he’s an asshole.

Which as$hole is this as$hole? The Steve King as$hole or Peter King as$hole?

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lawhawk  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:31:45am

re: #375 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am sure that they will phrase it as “countries with high risk of terrorism”

but we all know that that means

So, Russia then.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:32:15am

re: #379 Sir John Barron

Which as$hole is this as$hole? The Steve King as$hole or Peter King as$hole?

Peter

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:32:18am

re: #377 Decatur Deb

Belfast?

Terrorism of a certain, er, um, color

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Decatur Deb  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:32:20am

re: #378 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s going to make that little kid sit on the lion again, isn’t he?

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CuriousLurker  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:33:23am

re: #344 Unshaken Defiance

Proposal is a registry for Muslims visting the US. So when proud grandparents come to see the kids and grandkids the FBI will be keeping special track of them. More so than the angry guy that talks crap about Sharia etc etc on Facebook that has half an arsenal a block over to the south. *gag*

Exactly.

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wrenchwench  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:37:06am
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Franklin  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:37:24am

re: #382 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Terrorism of a certain, er, um, color

Bingo

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CuriousLurker  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:37:53am

re: #369 wrenchwench

Caryatids? Saw them day and night.

re: #371 Decatur Deb

As long as he kept his Erechtheum under control…

Damn, y’all keep making me look stuff up.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:37:54am

re: #386 Franklin

Bingo

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exactly what I had in mind

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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:38:57am

re: #378 Backwoods_Sleuth

more on that:

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Just like that time when Fox News hosted that show about Obama and his home.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:39:06am

re: #387 CuriousLurker

Damn, y’all keep making me look stuff up.

Quit complaining. Had to look that stuff up in books in my day.

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wrenchwench  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:39:16am

re: #387 CuriousLurker

Damn, y’all keep making me look stuff up.

Nothing like ancient Greek history to start the day. Oh, wait, it’s afternoon where you are. I start slow.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:40:21am

re: #378 Backwoods_Sleuth

more on that:

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Does Fox News have any sense of people eventually getting sick of Trump and seeing his crap and listening to his yap?

No, I figure they don’t.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:40:48am

re: #371 Decatur Deb

As long as he kept his Erechtheum under control…

Call a doctor if it lasts more than 4,000 years…

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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:42:06am

re: #366 Timothy Watson

It’s really unbelievable how fucking stupid white people are.

(If the avatar picture doesn’t make it obvious, I am white.)

I’m White and embarrassed that so many Whites are such dolts.

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Donkey With No Name  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:42:47am

re: #352 lawhawk

This is my shocked face.

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Read this series of tweets, and weep. The stunning and willful ignorance/blindness to what Trump being in the White House and why people voted for him.

Pro choice women vote for Trump because business! Yeah, too bad Trump’s a GOPer who’s going to give women the business. The GOP is salivating over destroying Roe and birth control access and restricting women’s right to choose. But yeah, business!

Guess whose business is going to thrive - not the working class, but the gilded robber barons of the technology age.

Has anyone gently informed them that they are not, in fact, a majority?

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Dr. Matt  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:44:58am

Just had a deplorable inform me that liberals are butthurt because the majority of Americans elected Trump. SMH.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:45:07am

Trump Transition Team Systematically Eliminating Anybody Who Knows Anything

nation wishes them luck in achieving a zen state of perfect immobility

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jeffreyw  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:45:19am
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Decatur Deb  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:46:33am

re: #397 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Trump Transition Team Systematically Eliminating Anybody Who Knows Anything

nation wishes them luck in achieving a zen state of perfect immobility

If they sit long enough, someone will gild them.

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jaunte  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:47:36am
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Dr. Matt  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:47:42am

January 20th Drump and Deplorables will begin to brag about the 4.9% unemployment rate. Just watch….

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:49:31am

re: #401 Dr. Matt

January 20th Drump and Deplorables will begin to brag about the 4.9% unemployment rate. Just watch….

And through next year about how well things are looking in the budget, even though it is Obama’s budget they will be working within.

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electrotek  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:49:39am

re: #400 jaunte

Talk about cutting your nose to spite your face.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:49:48am

January 20th Drump and Deplorables will stop carrying about presidential vacations. Just watch….

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jaunte  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:50:41am

re: #403 electrotek

They really want a war with Iran.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:51:19am

re: #400 jaunte

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“Hey, don’t take it personal; it’s just ideology.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:52:11am

re: #406 Barefoot Grin

“Hey, don’t take it personal; it’s just ideology.”

We need a tangible foreign enemy to complement all the domestic ones…

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lawhawk  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:52:54am

re: #404 Dr. Matt

January 20th Drump and Deplorables will stop carrying about presidential vacations. Just watch….

Or the weekly golf outings. Or the flights to-from NYC to DC.

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electrotek  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:53:30am

re: #405 jaunte

They really want a war with Iran.

Why don’t they arm Da’esh/ISIS then since they both share the same goals with fighting Iran?

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Timothy Watson  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:53:47am

re: #408 lawhawk

Or the weekly golf outings. Or the flights to-from NYC to DC.

Or the complete shutdown of major streets in NYC for the motorcade every other day.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:55:19am

re: #396 Dr. Matt

Just had a deplorable inform me that liberals are butthurt because the majority of Americans elected Trump. SMH.

Introduce this Deplorable to the Basket.

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Franklin  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:55:33am

As discussed a few days ago, we don’t have to wait until the midterms for our next crack at winning seats in Congress, just until December 10th:

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Franklin  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:56:12am

re: #408 lawhawk

Or the weekly golf outings. Or the flights to-from NYC to DC.

Or weekly golf outings/flights to-from NYC to DC….WITHOUT A PRESS POOL.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:56:12am

re: #408 lawhawk

Or the weekly golf outings. Or the flights to-from NYC to DC.

Or teleprompters. Or transparency.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:56:17am

re: #407 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We need a tangible foreign enemy to complement all the domestic ones…

And what better way to confirm the religious hardliners in their place when there is a moderate urban population that longs for change and engagement.

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electrotek  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:56:32am

Former President G.W. Bush: “Anger shouldn’t drive policy”:

During his presidency, the younger President Bush was a strong proponent of international trade deals like the North American Free Trade Agreement, which Trump railed against during his campaign.

How many of the same people who complained about NAFTA voted for Bush anyways back then?

Oh who am I kidding? These are the same ones that conveniently ignored his statements about Islam.

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Belafon  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:56:49am

re: #412 Franklin

As discussed a few days ago, we don’t have to wait until the midterms for our next crack at winning seats in Congress, just until December 10th:

Yeah, I need to donate.

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jaunte  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:57:28am

re: #409 electrotek

I don’t think their supporters know or care about the difference.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:57:48am

I’ve heard Obama and dubyah both lament that one thing they missed because they were POTUS is driving. Drump will miss flying in his private jet.

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electrotek  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:58:21am

re: #418 jaunte

I don’t think their supporters know or care about the difference.

I have yet to come to terms with that well over a decade later.

Sometimes I wish I was never into politics. My life would’ve been happier, or so I think.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 16, 2016 • 10:59:25am

re: #416 electrotek

Former President G.W. Bush: “Anger shouldn’t drive policy”:

Speaking in Dallas, Bush acknowledged that economic anxiety and voters who were “sick and tired of the status quo” pushed President-elect Donald Trump to victory — though Bush did not mention Trump by name.

“Sick and tired of the status quo” yet every GOP incumbent was re-elected. I’m so sick of this bullshit rheterotic.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:00:30am

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:01:11am

re: #421 Dr. Matt

“Sick and tired of the status quo” yet every GOP incumbent was re-elected. I’m so sick of this bullshit rheterotic.

You mean this election

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CuriousLurker  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:01:45am

re: #378 Backwoods_Sleuth

more on that:

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I wonder if he realizes he can’t take any of it with him? And I’m not talking about to D.C. I can’t stand ostentatious displays of wealth.

I suspect some people think/hope that if they accumulate enough money, power and material objects it’ll somehow make them immortal. It won’t—that’s one of the reasons Muslims perforrn Hajj wearing the Ihram, the white cloth you always see. It signifies the equality of all mankind and serves as a reminder of one’s mortality (we are also buried in a plain, simple shroud, typically of white cotton). BTW, additionally, there is no segregation of the sexes during Hajj.

And that, ladies & gents, concludes today’s lesson on Islamic rituals. ;)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:02:52am

re: #416 electrotek

Oh who am I kidding? These are the same ones that conveniently ignored [Bush’s] statements about Islam.

His views on Islam and immigration were about the only things about him that I could support.

But his party sure didn’t…

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electrotek  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:04:13am

Amazon ad first to feature Muslim cleric

Right-wing Amazon boycott to commence in 5…4…3…2…1…

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Franklin  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:05:36am

re: #417 Belafon

Yeah, I need to donate.

I just donated $25. If my wife ever saw the various and sundry campaigns I’ve donated to she would think I was crazy. Or maybe understand just how fucking important this is :)

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electrotek  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:06:03am

re: #425 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

His views on Islam and immigration were about the only things about him that I could support.

But his party sure didn’t…

I hated the Bush Admin with a passion back then, but even then I found some things to support.

Other than of course his invasion of Afghanistan after 9/11 which was a given, I supported his stance on the Dubai Ports deal and his decision to recognize Kosovo’s independence.

Which triggered the US Embassy in Belgrade to be attacked by mobs and was torched on fire…but you never hear the same usual suspects scream BELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLGRAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDDDDDE!!!!!!!

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Dr. Matt  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:06:15am

With an unemployment rate and gas prices at 7 year lows, median income at 8 year high, and stock market at all-time, there is likely very little room for massive improvements. Obama is leaving Drump a very health economy and the likelihood for these barometers to hold steady is low. Economic dips are cyclic on 7 to 10 year cycles. We are due for another one and we’ll be able to point and laugh at Drump and the deplorables.

2 year old article: If Economic Cycle Theorists Are Correct, 2015 To 2020 Will Be Pure Hell For The United States

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:06:31am

it’s the little things…

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electrotek  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:06:35am

re: #427 Timothy Watson

Sigh…

Colin Kaepernick has never registered to vote in any election

He’s been on my shitlist since last Wednesday. I hate him so much now because he didn’t take part in his civil duty.

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Belafon  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:08:30am

re: #430 Dr. Matt

With an unemployment rate and gas prices at 7 year lows, median income at 8 year high, and stock market at all-time, there is likely very little room for massive improvements. Obama is leaving Drump a very health economy and the likelihood for these barometers to hold steady is low. Economic dips are cyclic on 7 to 10 year cycles. We are due for another one and we’ll be able to point and laugh at Drump and the deplorables.

2 year old article: If Economic Cycle Theorists Are Correct, 2015 To 2020 Will Be Pure Hell For The United States

And Republicans have neutered the ability for the government to respond to downturns, which is why they’re taking longer and longer to get out of.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:08:49am
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electrotek  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:08:53am

re: #429 electrotek

Does anyone remember the backlash to the Dubai Ports deal even by members within his own party?

He stood his ground on that and I commended him for doing so.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:10:24am

re: #364 Backwoods_Sleuth

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asshole continues to prove he’s an asshole.

So says the man who recently won a Leonid Brezhnev look-a-like contest.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:10:34am

re: #431 Backwoods_Sleuth

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it’s the little things…

Take a dump
In our Trump
And you’ll have a happy day!

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stpaulbear  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:10:48am

re: #412 Franklin

As discussed a few days ago, we don’t have to wait until the midterms for our next crack at winning seats in Congress, just until December 10th:

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Thanks for that reminder. I just donated $15 plus a tip for act blue.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:11:03am
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Timothy Watson  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:11:04am

re: #435 electrotek

Does anyone remember the backlash to the Dubai Ports deal even by members within his own party?

He stood his ground on that and I commended him for doing so.

Recovering Republican here and I remember that Tony Snow was the only person on the right who was defending him. Snow admitted after the fact that sources had told what an intelligence coup it would have been for the United States because the company was giving the CIA a blank check to monitor stuff at other ports.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:12:58am

re: #374 electrotek

Well, hell no. That’s what the help is for.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:14:17am

re: #437 Dr Lizardo

Take a dump
In our Trump
And you’ll have a happy day!

Our Trumps flush it away, they don’t spew it out!

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electrotek  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:14:50am

re: #440 Timothy Watson

Recovering Republican here and I remember that Tony Snow was the only person on the right who was defending him. Snow admitted after the fact that sources had told what an intelligence coup it would have been for the United States because the company was giving the CIA a blank check to monitor stuff at other ports.

Damn, even Hillary Clinton was short-sighted on criticizing Bush for that back then.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:15:15am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:16:27am
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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:18:41am

re: #445 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Wonkette has a hilarious post about this.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:19:01am

re: #405 jaunte

They really want a war with Iran.

Yeah.

I mean the Iraq war and occupation is barely out of the current events column and they want to do it again, in a larger, more heavily populated and somewhat mountainous nation.

They truly show their insanity when they meet the definition of ‘same action expecting different results.’

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electrotek  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:19:50am

re: #447 Romantic Heretic

Yeah.

I mean the Iraq war and occupation is barely out of the current events column and they want to do it again, in a larger, more heavily populated and somewhat mountainous nation.

They truly show their insanity when they meet the definition of ‘same action expecting different results.’

And with an even more stubbornly nationalist population on top of it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:20:30am
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jaunte  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:20:48am

re: #447 Romantic Heretic

And when we go home after thousands of casualties and trillions of dollars, Putin would probably enjoy having an Indian Ocean port.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:25:36am

re: #448 electrotek

Hadn’t thought of that. They are a lot less divided than Iraq on sectarian and tribal lines, aren’t they?

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[deleted]  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:26:33am
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electrotek  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:28:50am

re: #451 Romantic Heretic

Hadn’t thought of that. They are a lot less divided than Iraq on sectarian and tribal lines, aren’t they?

There are some ethnic and religious issues in Iran though.

Kurdish separatism, Arab resentment in Khuzestan, neglect of Iranian Balochs in Sistan-Balochistan, Azeri nationalism, and Sunni extremism from a minority of Salafis that have managed to infiltrate Iran. Not everyone shares Iranian nationalism when they have their own cause to support.

But with one caveat: it’s not entirely coming from Sistan-Baluchistan, but from places like Kermanshah where Kurdish Sunnis live. There was an NPR article early this year that talked about how catastrophic a Da’esh suicide attack in Tehran would be for the Sunnis. And another article I linked a month ago talking about that. And they are very afraid.

To cut it in laymen’s terms, it will be worse than Iraq.

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stpaulbear  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:30:16am

From Balloon Juice here and here.

Okay now that we are starting to collect stories, we also need to start finding out what will happen to Medicare. That means calling Congress.

When you call Congress, you need to call your Representative and your Senators. Those are the only people who may or may not take action on your call. Everyone else will at best forward your message to your Rep or Senator. Right now we do not need to do advocacy, we need to do an intelligence appreication of where people stand on Paul Ryan’s “A Better Way” for Medicare.

So when you call your Congressional office, let’s ask a very simple question that we should be able to get a yes or no:

“Does Congressman Doe support Paul Ryan’s “A Better Way” plans for Medicare?”

I’ve already called my reps last week but I’m going to call again and ask if they have a defense plan.

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Franklin  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:31:52am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:32:35am
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electrotek  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:34:12am

Greek protesters riot during Obama’s visit

ATHENS (Reuters) - Riot police fired teargas on Tuesday at protesters demonstrating just a few kilometers (miles) from the presidential mansion where Greek leaders were hosting a state banquet for visiting U.S. President Barack Obama.

About 7,000 people, among them many hooded protesters and members of the Communist-affiliated group PAME, marched through the streets of central Athens holding banners reading “Unwanted!”

The police clashed with the protesters after they tried to break through cordon lines to reach the parliament building and the U.S. embassy. Some demonstrators threw two petrol bombs at police before dispersing into nearby streets close to Athens’s main Syntagma Square.

In a separate protest in the northern city of Thessaloniki, protesters burned a U.S. flag.

The visit comes only two days before the anniversary of a bloody 1973 student revolt that helped topple the 1967-1974 military junta which was backed by the U.S. government.

Obama, who will be succeeded in January by Donald Trump, arrived in Greece on Tuesday on his last foreign tour as president of the United States.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:34:32am
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stpaulbear  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:34:35am

re: #456 Backwoods_Sleuth

I hope the NYT’s irony meter exploded after sending that tweet.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:37:08am

re: #459 stpaulbear

I hope the NYT’s irony meter exploded after sending that tweet.

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piratedan  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:37:28am

re: #456 Backwoods_Sleuth

sorry, still not subscribing to the Old Grey Lady. They obviously felt that reporting on Clinton’s non-existent e-mail “scandal” had more merit that the entire shitstorm that permeates Trump, so they can go and try and perform some real journalism now that that the damage is done strikes me as somewhat impotent.

I will patiently await their front page banner headline indicating that Ms. Clinton is exonerated. Until that happens it will be quite some time before I give a fuck about them anymore.

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Weaselone  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:39:28am

re: #455 Franklin

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Hell. Now we’re the rogue nation driving every other nation to cooperate in order to contain us.

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retired cynic  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:39:53am

There was a discussion earlier about Jim Webb’s possible defection, and then his position in the Democratic leadership. Martin Longman had a long article on Webb’s talk yesterday at George Washington University. Nothing really new, but a different take. Not one that I am necessarily endorsing! I am somewhere between burn them all down and offer them warm fuzzies. Lean closer to burn them all down.

boomantribune.com

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Timothy Watson  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:40:30am

re: #455 Franklin

China tells Trump climate change isn’t a hoax it invented

Of course they said that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:41:22am
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retired cynic  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:41:31am

re: #463 retired cynic

On the other hand, Rude Pundit is on the other hand. <Grin>

rudepundit.blogspot.com

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lawhawk  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:43:11am

re: #465 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Another reason 2016 continues to suck. And I’m betting he didn’t want to stick around to watch his signature legislature get gutted and filleted by a vengeful and ignorant GOP.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:44:41am

re: #452 Ziggy_TARDIS

It’s absolutely not OK to use LGF to tell people to call a school and harass them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:45:06am
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CuriousLurker  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:45:34am

re: #465 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The year just keeps getting better and better, doesn’t it? //

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:45:38am
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Dr. Matt  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:48:54am

re: #469 Backwoods_Sleuth

I am not trying to get “top level security clearance” for my children. This was a typically false news story.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 16, 2016

The tiny fisted Adolf should put down his phone and get back to worrying about “leading” this country.

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Citizen K  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:50:32am
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Nyet  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:50:58am

re: #159 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Russian Exceptionalism.

They answer only to God.

Guess who else answers only to God.

Three signatory states—Israel, Sudan and the United States—have informed the UN Secretary General that they no longer intend to become states parties and, as such, have no legal obligations arising from their former representatives’ signature of the Statute.[20][22]

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Dr. Matt  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:51:21am

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Stanley Sea  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:54:10am

I wonder if Obama is getting follow up calls.

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unproven innocence  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:54:13am

re: #475 Dr. Matt

Every time I think I’m out, they pull me back in.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:54:50am

Flor-duh continues to be Florida: Dead pig spill causes traffic backup on I-75 in Sarasota

FYI. Pics are in the embedded link.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:57:20am
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sagehen  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:57:54am

re: #440 Timothy Watson

Recovering Republican here and I remember that Tony Snow was the only person on the right who was defending him. Snow admitted after the fact that sources had told what an intelligence coup it would have been for the United States because the company was giving the CIA a blank check to monitor stuff at other ports.

I wish I’d known that then. I was among the opponents…

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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:58:00am

re: #479 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Brilliant.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 16, 2016 • 11:58:34am

re: #479 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Either it’s straight-up denial on Gaffney’s part or some reporter got their wires crossed.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:00:54pm

re: #481 Sir John Barron

Brilliant.

(I loved those old Guinness ads. Used to see them all the time watching Around the Horn and Pardon the Interruption on ESPN with my dad.)

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Lidane  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:03:57pm

Zee racist butts, they are hurting:

485
Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:06:56pm

Why is this even a choice to be discussed???!!!???

486
CuriousLurker  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:06:59pm

re: #472 Dr. Matt

The tiny fisted Adolf should put down his phone and get back to worrying about “leading” this country.

He’s not gonna be able to handle the pressure once he finally takes office. As I said a previously, I seriously doubt he’ll make it to the 2018 mid-terms without a massive screw-up. The people he trusts & considers loyal don’t know squat about politics at that level and the GOP congress critters all have their own agendas and will be looking to take advantage of his inexperience. It’s a recipe for disaster and, unfortunately, we all get to come along for the ride.

487
unproven innocence  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:08:17pm

re: #484 Lidane

Zee racist butts, they are hurting:

Because freedom of speech, of course.

488
Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:08:36pm

re: #466 retired cynic

On the other hand, Rude Pundit is on the other hand. <Grin>

rudepundit.blogspot.com

I’m kind of of the same mind. I know we’re supposed to be understanding of their plight and all, but first, we’re all in the same damned boat, and second, they just voted for a transparent flim-flam man who promised them things that are impossible and that everyone else knew he didn’t mean, and has now said won’t happen.

They rejected the person who tried to treat them as grownups who could accept a hard truth and an offer to help.

I’m finding it really, really hard to respect that.

489
Belafon  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:08:40pm

re: #485 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why is this even a choice to be discussed???!!!???

Does Schumer have a concept of false choices? Surely something in Jewish writing talks about that.

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Lidane  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:09:56pm

re: #485 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why is this even a choice to be discussed???!!!???

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Because Bernie and his ZOMG TEH WHITE WORKING CLASS malarkey.

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Citizen K  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:11:16pm

re: #489 Belafon

Does Schumer have a concept of false choices? Surely something in Jewish writing talks about that.

Considering his choice of Sanders and Manchin for the leadership positions, he’s already made his choice, looks like.

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wrenchwench  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:11:46pm

re: #485 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why is this even a choice to be discussed???!!!???

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I think it’s because there are racists who don’t want to admit that there are racists in the Democratic Party. They want to believe ‘It’s the economy, stupid’, just as they could in the past.

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Dr. Matt  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:13:00pm

re: #486 CuriousLurker

He’s not gonna be able to handle the pressure once he finally takes office. As I said a previously, I seriously doubt he’ll make it to the 2018 mid-terms without a massive screw-up. The people he trusts & considers loyal don’t know squat about politics at that level and the GOP congress critters all have their own agendas and will be looking to take advantage of his inexperience. It’s a recipe for disaster and, unfortunately, we all get to come along for the ride.

For the first time in my life, I’ll quote Limbaugh: I hope he fails

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:13:39pm

re: #339 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And that, kids, is how Hillary stole the election!

Oh…wait…

Yup, that’s the one I saw! Dig the interview with a “Clinton Hitman”. o_O

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Stanley Sea  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:16:33pm
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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:16:37pm

re: #485 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why is this even a choice to be discussed???!!!???

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Wouldn’t a diverse Obama Coalition include the blue-collar heartland? He did win many of those mid western states.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:18:06pm

ummmmmmm

“Steve Bannon is a Zionist,” Trump spokesman @JasonMillerinDC says

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:21:02pm

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

These “sources” are beyond ridiculous.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:21:15pm

re: #493 Dr. Matt

For the first time in my life, I’ll quote Limbaugh: I hope he fails

We have to hope for a clusterfuck of monumental proportions. That’s the only way we’ll get a Democratic wave in a census year. I really saw no chance of that in 2020 before—maybe the other way. Now it looks conceivable. 2040 was just too long to wait (I’d be 88.)

Of course, I won’t survive the destruction of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, etc., but it’s still something I can wish for….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:25:40pm
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Timothy Watson  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:25:57pm

re: #498 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

These “sources” are beyond ridiculous.

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Because she’s an Indian-American? Not sure how being an accountant qualifies someone for SecState.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:27:51pm

re: #449 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump is an even bigger patsy than W was with Rumsfeld and Cheney.

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Timothy Watson  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:28:30pm

re: #498 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

These “sources” are beyond ridiculous.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:29:21pm

new facepalm pic for the collection:

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:30:03pm

re: #352 lawhawk

“He can create change”

No. No, he can’t.

Why do Republican voters have such ridiculous Daddy Issues?

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KGxvi  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:31:30pm

re: #485 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why is this even a choice to be discussed???!!!???

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Why is it that when I read that comment, what passes through my brain:

Are we going to be a diverse party or a party of angry white men?

And then I can only think, there’s already a party of angry white men.

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stpaulbear  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:32:53pm

re: #499 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

We have to hope for a clusterfuck of monumental proportions. That’s the only way we’ll get a Democratic wave in a census year. I really saw no chance of that in 2020 before—maybe the other way. Now it looks conceivable. 2040 was just too long to wait (I’d be 88.)

Of course, I won’t survive the destruction of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, etc., but it’s still something I can wish for….

I keep wondering if this next two months is going to be such a clusterfuck for Trump that he’ll call everyone losers and then not take the oath of office. I think he’s self-centered enough to think he can do it and then just go back to his penthouse.

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BeachDem  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:33:58pm

re: #497 Backwoods_Sleuth

ummmmmmm

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Also—it’s not just people of color who view Bannon as a white supremecist—it is many, many sentient beings.

And speaking of gish galloping. Sigh.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:36:11pm

re: #500 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’ve eaten lunch so I can barf now.

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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:37:01pm

re: #498 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

These “sources” are beyond ridiculous.

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Chuck Rage Furby Johnson is not a valid “source”.

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BeachDem  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:37:04pm

re: #501 Timothy Watson

Because she’s an Indian-American? Not sure how being an accountant qualifies someone for SecState.

And not even a very good accountant.

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Belafon  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:37:12pm

re: #507 stpaulbear

I keep wondering if this next two months is going to be such a clusterfuck for Trump that he’ll call everyone losers and then not take the oath of office. I think he’s self-centered enough to think he can do it and then just go back to his penthouse.

If he did that, it would be the first grown up thing he’s done.

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KGxvi  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:38:07pm

re: #486 CuriousLurker

He’s not gonna be able to handle the pressure once he finally takes office. As I said a previously, I seriously doubt he’ll make it to the 2018 mid-terms without a massive screw-up. The people he trusts & considers loyal don’t know squat about politics at that level and the GOP congress critters all have their own agendas and will be looking to take advantage of his inexperience. It’s a recipe for disaster and, unfortunately, we all get to come along for the ride.

I hate to say this, because it will likely trigger something of a constitutional crisis, but I would not be surprised to see Section 4 of the Twenty-fifth Amendment invoked at some point during Trump’s presidency. And not because he became sick and unable to carry out the duties of the office. And if/when it happens, I fully expect Trump to fight over it.

(For those who don’t know, Section 4 of the 25th Amendment allows the Vice-President and a majority of the cabinet to temporarily remove the president by sending a letter to the Speaker and President Pro Tempore of the Senate stating that the president is unable to carry out the duties of the office. Once the letter is sent, the VPOTUS becomes Acting President. It’s likely meant for incidents where the president has a heart attack or stroke, or is comatose. But there’s nothing in the language of the Amendment that limits it to such circumstances)

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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:38:24pm

re: #500 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Yes, Joseph Goebbels would make a mighty fine minister of propaganda and anyone saying otherwise is just a hateful partisan sore loser.”

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stpaulbear  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:38:52pm

re: #512 Belafon

If he did that, it would be the first grown up thing he’s done.

I agree.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:39:06pm

my guess is that it will involve a lot of yelling.

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Citizen K  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:39:44pm

re: #516 Backwoods_Sleuth

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my guess is that it will involve a lot of yelling.

I wonder if he’ll continue to brandish his ‘white working class’ credentials again…

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lawhawk  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:40:40pm

re: #498 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

These “sources” are beyond ridiculous.

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Starting to think these sources are trying to gauge response by the thud when they hit the ground.

No. Nope. Heck nope. Wait, that one was a dull thud, so we’ll keep that one around a while longer. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope.

I guess it’s good that they’ve got as many leaks as they’re showing, because it’s a good practical insight into how this administration will run things.

It’s going to run things like a business. A poorly run business that will extract every last penny at shareholder and creditor expense (aka the taxpayers) and the CEO and board will make out like bandits (the Trump cabal).

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Sir John Barron  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:40:44pm

re: #498 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

These “sources” are beyond ridiculous.

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This is only like the eleventieth name that has been run up the flag pole for SoS.

Great work everyone.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:41:13pm
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BeachDem  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:41:15pm

re: #516 Backwoods_Sleuth

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my guess is that it will involve a lot of yelling.

And a lot of ranting about Citizens United and the plight of the poor white working class and the anger of Trump voters that Bernie totally understands.

Why is the loser of a partisan primary now the go-to arbiter of all things. STFU, Bernie.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:42:00pm

re: #506 KGxvi

Why is it that when I read that comment, what passes through my brain:

Are we going to be a diverse party or a party of angry white men?

And then I can only think, there’s already a party of angry white men.

We also cannot be a party without angry white men. Can you tell I’ve been angry?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:42:24pm
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Belafon  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:43:22pm

re: #521 BeachDem

And a lot of ranting about Citizens United and the plight of the poor white working class and the anger of Trump voters that Bernie totally understands.

Why is the loser of a partisan primary now the go-to arbiter of all things. STFU, Bernie.

The why is because he’s still in office, and still willing to get in front of a camera.

As much as I would like Obama to have a quiet retirement, which is as much as I would like to just be able to do programming and not worry about all this shit, I hope Obama is willing to get in front of a camera every time he leaves his house.

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EPR-radar  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:43:43pm

re: #513 KGxvi

I hate to say this, because it will likely trigger something of a constitutional crisis, but I would not be surprised to see Section 4 of the Twenty-fifth Amendment invoked at some point during Trump’s presidency. And not because he became sick and unable to carry out the duties of the office. And if/when it happens, I fully expect Trump to fight over it.

(For those who don’t know, Section 4 of the 25th Amendment allows the Vice-President and a majority of the cabinet to temporarily remove the president by sending a letter to the Speaker and President Pro Tempore of the Senate stating that the president is unable to carry out the duties of the office. Once the letter is sent, the VPOTUS becomes Acting President. It’s likely meant for incidents where the president has a heart attack or stroke, or is comatose. But there’s nothing in the language of the Amendment that limits it to such circumstances)

Trump may be well aware of this, since otherwise incompetent cretins are almost never incompetent about direct threats to their power. Pence will backstab Trump at the first available chance, and it looks like Trump’s counter-move is to fill the cabinet with a bunch of bozos that know they will be gone 5 minutes after Trump is deposed.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:44:27pm

re: #484 Lidane

Zee racist butts, they are hurting:

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But go to a racist site and start calling them racist assholes and you will get banned in a heartbeat.

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wrenchwench  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:45:01pm

re: #525 EPR-radar

Trump may be well aware of this, since otherwise incompetent cretins are almost never incompetent about direct threats to their power. Pence will backstab Trump at the first available chance, and it looks like Trump’s counter-move is to fill the cabinet with a bunch of bozos that know they will be gone 5 minutes after Trump is deposed.

I think picking Pence was Trump’s first counter-move.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:47:03pm
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EPR-radar  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:47:29pm

re: #527 wrenchwench

I think picking Pence was Trump’s first counter-move.

How so? Pence is the biggest threat to Trump because the GOP could easily align with Pence vs. Trump.

531
Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:48:47pm

re: #527 wrenchwench

I think picking Pence was Trump’s first counter-move.

Pence wasn’t Trump’s choice. Ever.

532
wrenchwench  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:50:17pm

re: #529 EPR-radar

How so? Pence is the biggest threat to Trump because the GOP could easily align with Pence vs. Trump.

Yeah, I wasn’t thinking strategically from the RNC point of view. I was only thinking how odious I find Pence.

533
Archangelus  Nov 16, 2016 • 12:50:44pm
534
goddamnedfrank  Nov 16, 2016 • 1:03:10pm

re: #513 KGxvi

I hate to say this, because it will likely trigger something of a constitutional crisis, but I would not be surprised to see Section 4 of the Twenty-fifth Amendment invoked at some point during Trump’s presidency. And not because he became sick and unable to carry out the duties of the office. And if/when it happens, I fully expect Trump to fight over it.

(For those who don’t know, Section 4 of the 25th Amendment allows the Vice-President and a majority of the cabinet to temporarily remove the president by sending a letter to the Speaker and President Pro Tempore of the Senate stating that the president is unable to carry out the duties of the office. Once the letter is sent, the VPOTUS becomes Acting President. It’s likely meant for incidents where the president has a heart attack or stroke, or is comatose. But there’s nothing in the language of the Amendment that limits it to such circumstances)

Trump will probably appoint too many of his own toadies and people just as insane as he is for that to happen. This is why we’re seeing such an immediate emphasis placed by the transition team on perceived loyalty. It’s why Kushner has been able to purge the team of anyone associated with Christie, why they were open about having an enemies list and refuse to hire talented Republicans who didn’t march in exact lockstep with Trump through every scandal of his general election campaign. They’re paranoid as fuck and are surrounding Trump with people at least as batshit crazy as he is so that the entire team has bought into his Death Eater mentality. You’ll effectively be looking at an apocalyptic cult, not a traditional Administration. It’s more likely that his cabinet will be the ones who push him towards committing some horrifying atrocity. In the aftermath of such an event Pence and/or any who object would be quickly swept aside in a putsch.

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CuriousLurker  Nov 16, 2016 • 1:31:44pm

re: #497 Backwoods_Sleuth

ummmmmmm

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Bannon is a Zionist?

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CuriousLurker  Nov 16, 2016 • 1:34:09pm

re: #513 KGxvi

I hate to say this, because it will likely trigger something of a constitutional crisis, but I would not be surprised to see Section 4 of the Twenty-fifth Amendment invoked at some point during Trump’s presidency. And not because he became sick and unable to carry out the duties of the office. And if/when it happens, I fully expect Trump to fight over it.

(For those who don’t know, Section 4 of the 25th Amendment allows the Vice-President and a majority of the cabinet to temporarily remove the president by sending a letter to the Speaker and President Pro Tempore of the Senate stating that the president is unable to carry out the duties of the office. Once the letter is sent, the VPOTUS becomes Acting President. It’s likely meant for incidents where the president has a heart attack or stroke, or is comatose. But there’s nothing in the language of the Amendment that limits it to such circumstances)

Interesting, thanks. It would be nice if Trump would just grow TFU, but I’m not gonna hold my breath waiting for that to happen.

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ObserverArt  Nov 16, 2016 • 4:23:28pm

re: #403 electrotek

Talk about cutting your nose to spite your face.

That bit about not selling planes to Iran should be made into a little brochure and passed out to every freaking union and all its members in this country with the message attached; this is why unions back Democratic candidates and favor Democratic politics and policies.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 16, 2016 • 6:15:47pm

re: #136 wheat-dogg

Wasn’t that the management style of the CEO of Sears? I understand it’s one reason why the company is financially on the ropes now.

re: #137 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

A man who was, like Paul Ryan, a big fan of Ayn Rand’s philosophy.

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Cloaca Maxima  Nov 17, 2016 • 5:18:23pm

“Ricky Vaughn” in particular had already been banned numerous time and was creating sock puppet accounts.

Any “free speech” folks should rest assured that all of these fools well earned their banishment.


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Sheriff Finds ‘Troubling’ Explosives, Guns, Maps and Note in Florida Home Photographs of schools, three bomb devices, guns and books on how to make explosives were found in a Dunedin man’s home Wednesday, officials report. Deputies with the Pinellas County Sheriff’s Office were executing a search warrant at 1234 Royal ...
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Editorial: Kobach Is Desperate for Trump’s Approval Kris Kobach has been running a Trump-style gubernatorial campaign since the day he announced. From his empty insistence that there’s a “culture of corruption” in Topeka to his argument that the Legislature’s decision to repeal Gov. Sam Brownback’s tax ...
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First Aid Kit - It’s a Shame"It's a Shame" by First Aid Kit is available now: smarturl.it Production Company: Slutet är Nära / slutetarnara.se Director: Mats UddProducer: Petra KrigströmExecutive Producer: Alexandros Bakos Lyrics: genius.com Follow First Aid Kit: firstaidkitband.com facebook.com @firstaidkitband instagram.com
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Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit - American Girl10/13/2017 Encore on night 4 of Ryman residency
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WALK the MOON - Headphones Get WALK THE MOON's “One Foot” and "Headphones" Instantly When You Pre-Order The New Album 'What If Nothing':iTunes - wtmband.comAmazon - wtmband.comSpotify Pre-Save - wtmband.comGoogle Play - wtmband.comMerch Store - wtmband.com Stream "Headphones" Now:Apple Music - wtmband.comSpotify - wtmband.com ...
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