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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:05:25pm

So no Muslim registry yet. President Trump please kindly add me to your enemies list as a member of the loyal opposition to your bullshit. Be sure to include a high res version of my avatar.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:06:42pm

re: #1 Unshaken Defiance

So no Muslim registry yet. President Trump please kindly add me to your enemies list as a member of the loyal opposition to your bullshit. Be sure to include a high res version of my avatar.

May I stand next to you when we are put up against the wall? /s, maybe

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Charles Johnson  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:07:46pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:08:02pm

re: #2 Anymouse

May I stand next to you when we are put up against the wall? /s, maybe

Better idea-We’ll stand together for the struggle. Come what effing may.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:09:35pm

I’d love to live and work in Australia. But at this point I doubt they’d have me.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:09:52pm
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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:10:01pm

re: #4 Unshaken Defiance

Better idea-We’ll stand together for the struggle. Come what effing may.

There is the problem of snuffing out this pale blue dot that lives in a sea of red.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:13:31pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Money on the barrelhead—Trump isn’t even thinking about Australia or international relations.

He’s (1) still exercising his grudge versus Obama, (2) campaigning, (3) taking the entire issue and making it all about how awesome he is.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:13:52pm
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JasonA  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:14:19pm

re: #7 Anymouse

There is the problem of snuffing out this pale blue dot that lives in a sea of red.

Are the people in your neck of the woods still happy with their vote?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:15:10pm

So I guess “al Bayda” is the new Benghazi…

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:16:37pm

So all the experts were there.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:17:04pm

I’m working on some new Bannon nicknames. What do y’all think of “éminence grease”?

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Charles Johnson  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:17:18pm
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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:17:42pm

re: #10 JasonA

Are the people in your neck of the woods still happy with their vote?

They are fading fast - it’s starting to become apparent to some of them they were conned.

Those that are coming to that realisation might be reachable that Mr. Trump was not the only Republican that conned them.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:18:22pm

re: #12 jaunte

All that for some fucking cell phones that could be monitored remotely. WTF.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:18:25pm
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Kragar  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:18:54pm

“U.S. military officials told Reuters that Trump approved his first covert counterterrorism operation without sufficient intelligence, ground support or adequate backup preparations.

As a result, three officials said, the attacking SEAL team found itself dropping onto a reinforced al Qaeda base defended by landmines, snipers, and a larger than expected contingent of heavily armed Islamist extremists.”

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:19:01pm

re: #16 GlutenFreeJesus

It’s just theater to Trump, but real people get killed.

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HypnoToad  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:19:44pm

re: #13 The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)

I’m working on some new Bannon nicknames. What do y’all think of “éminence grease”?

I think that Baron Harkonnen might fit him better than it does trump.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:19:56pm

Reposted from downstairs:
re: #537 ckkatz

To my mind there is much we do not know about the current regime’s final goals. And therefore why it is doing what it is doing.

I suspect that the weakening and destruction of our current organizations and beliefs are one goal. With the replacement by Regime organizations and goals. The purge at the State Dept is one example.

Meanwhile the GOP leadership apparently thinks that they can contain the Regime.

I would guess that a few stumbles are probably viewed as nothing more than acceptable casualties. As are, most likely, the thousands of deaths that these policy changes are likely to cause.

As always, ymmv. I have been wrong before. And will likely be wrong many times in the future. I certainly hope that I am wrong here.

Bannon is suicidal. He just wants to destroy everything.

The GOP rank-and-file can’t control this regime; the regime can’t control themselves. They are both malicious and stupid. But as has been shown time and time again, these types of regimes fail in nightmarish scenes. 1793 France. 1917 Russia. 1990 Romania.

The last thing I want to do is add “2017 United States” to that list.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:20:02pm

Also, there’s nothing bizarre about a serial philandering, contract-breaking tax-cheat having a…malleable conception of loyalty.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:20:34pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:21:05pm
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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:21:21pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Specifically, many of them are the people stuck on Nauru, because the camps there (which were basically for-profit, Nauru having basically no other worth) are knownfor terrible conditions, disease, and sexual abuse.

I mean, not that the whole thing isn’t stupid, but there’s an especial level of ugly

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:21:27pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:21:29pm

re: #12 jaunte

Wait. Trump decided on this raid… OVER DINNER?

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Stanley Sea  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:21:51pm

re: #12 jaunte

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So all the experts were there.

Who said it previous thread, I want to give credit.

They wanted a Bin Laden style win.

They are fucking children. Playing with our military.

The leaks are sieves. More to come I’m sure.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:22:11pm

It’s so cool to get a text message on my iPhone from LGF. Pardon me while I humble-brag.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:22:33pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:23:24pm

re: #17 Backwoods_Sleuth

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:23:52pm

re: #30 jaunte

Trump will suddenly have a different opinion about Pew. lol

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(alpuz)  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:24:08pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Jeeebus, he’s moved on to drunk dialing.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:24:21pm

re: #22 The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)

In my considerable experience with utter bastards…they’re the people that have the strongest desire for a one-sided “loyalty.”

Whereas any whim they feel about another person justifies betrayal.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:24:50pm

re: #30 jaunte

Ukraine couldn’t be reached for the poll…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:24:53pm
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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:25:32pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Senator Deb Fischer’s mailbox is full (I just called).

I’m originally from Michigan. I would have left a message noting the DeVos family’s half-century crusade against public education, and how politicians in my adopted state of Nebraska repeatedly cite the state’s proud history of supporting public education.

Well, I can’t add a phone call to the cause, but I can hope that mailbox is stuffed with outraged Nebraskan messages.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:25:41pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

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He’s fucking addled. This is insane.

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mmmirele  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:25:54pm

The Nation (Sarah Posner, who really knows her religious stuff) has a copy of the leaked draft of Trump’s “religious freedom” order.

It’s insanely broad.

 If signed, the order would create wholesale exemptions for people and organizations who claim religious objections to same-sex marriage, premarital sex, abortion, and trans identity.

thenation.com

Includes grainy pictures of the thing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:25:56pm
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calochortus  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:26:32pm

I used to get spam from PA’s Senator Toomey because someone somewhere decided I was a woman in Western PA with the same first initial and last name. I always just deleted them. Now, when I’d like to give him an earful, I’m not getting his spam.

I wonder why he isn’t inviting lots of random people to email him at the moment?
/

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:26:45pm

For those of you who aren’t keeping track, the religious faction that Donald Trump is being super-cozy with are of the Dominionist stripe, as seen by his nominations of DeVos and Gorsuch.

This group has a specific end-game when it comes to political influence - and is stated as such by one of their founders:

In their own words.
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JasonA  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:27:30pm
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mmmirele  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:27:52pm

re: #42 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

For those of you who aren’t keeping track, the religious faction that Donald Trump is being super-cozy with are of the Dominionist stripe, as seen by his nominations of DeVos and Gorsuch.

This group has a specific end-game when it comes to political influence - and is stated as such by one of their founders:

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Yeah, I’d like to kick George Grant in the ‘nads.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:29:46pm

re: #12 jaunte

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So all the experts were there.

These dangerous dumbasses could easily lose a war. Nothing but scores of wasted American lives for no purpose other than to inflate Trump’s ego.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:29:53pm

re: #20 HypnoToad

I think that Baron Harkonnen might fit him better than it does trump.

The spite must flow!

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Stanley Sea  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:30:09pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Mailbox full

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Moebym  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:30:14pm

re: #42 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Hmph. If God’s word were truly supreme, and God so almighty, then how come the entire world isn’t already under the dominion of Christians?

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:30:15pm

US could resettle zero refugees from Manus and Nauru and still ‘honour’ deal

The secretary of Australia’s immigration department, Mike Pezzullo, told a Senate inquiry in November the number of refugees resettled was up to the US to determine, and there was no “numerical” commitment.

“There is, within the arrangement that we have struck, an agreement that all the persons who fall within the definition can express an interest. Then the American government will decide, once they have reviewed the cases, how many people they will take. So it is a process-driven arrangement rather than a numerical arrangement.”

I am shocked—shocked—to discover that Trump has misrepresented the agreement with Australia.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:30:33pm

re: #42 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

But SHARIA!!!!!!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:31:33pm

Please. PLEASE. Some reporter that has access to Trump. Ask him if he’d be willing to set up a meeting with Frederick Douglass to work out race relations!

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Stanley Sea  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:32:16pm

re: #26 Backwoods_Sleuth

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JasonA  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:34:00pm

I don’t want to hear shit from the right about the next president having to go on an apology tour.

Assuming we have another one.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:34:06pm
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Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:34:15pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

If you’re into long-distance calling of course:

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:34:15pm

Aren’t we now living under a kakistocracy with no end in sight?

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Kragar  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:35:23pm
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JasonA  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:35:28pm
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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:35:40pm

re: #45 Myron Falwell

These dangerous dumbasses could easily lose a war. Nothing but scores of wasted American lives for no purpose other than to inflate Trump’s ego.

And the lives of whatever hapless nation’s citizens they choose by throwing darts at a world map.

Lichtenstein? San Marino? Why not a two-front war!! Take their oil!

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Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:35:40pm

re: #56 Hecuba’s daughter

Aren’t we now living under a kakistocracy with no end in sight?

This is worse than a kakistocracy. This is a malignant-dumbassocracy.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:36:46pm

re: #53 JasonA

I don’t want to hear shit from the right about the next president having to go on an apology tour.

Assuming we have another one.

Sure we’ll have another President — Donald Trump Jr. Or, perhaps Mike Pence in April

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Stanley Sea  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:37:29pm

re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:37:57pm

re: #56 Hecuba’s daughter

Aren’t we now living under a kakistocracy with no end in sight?

+1 just cause I had to look that word up.

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The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:37:57pm

re: #28 Stanley Sea

Who said it previous thread, I want to give credit.

They wanted a Bin Laden style win.

They are fucking children. Playing with our military.

The leaks are sieves. More to come I’m sure.

I swear to Zod that a nontrivial portion of the bullshit we now find ourselves hip deep in is due to Republicans looking at the Obama presidency and thinking “well shit, if that fucking niCLANG can do it, this presidenting stuff must be easier than people say”.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:37:58pm
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FormerDirtDart  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:38:03pm
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jaunte  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:39:07pm

re: #66 FormerDirtDart

Maybe he likes Jon Stewart’s idea.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:39:45pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:39:46pm
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Kragar  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:40:02pm
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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:41:08pm

Someone on the Reason Omaha Yahoo group snarked just now that we could make China dismantle their wall and make Mexico pay for it.

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:41:25pm

re: #18 Kragar

When they say “without sufficient intelligence,” they’re talking about Trump.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:41:44pm
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JasonA  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:41:49pm
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Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:42:07pm

Well shit. Broken clock time for Baby Whiplash.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:42:42pm

re: #68 jaunte

Univision is an American company…

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JasonA  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:42:49pm

re: #74 JasonA

That’s like me getting on SEAL Team Six because of my Overwatch skills.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:43:24pm

re: #76 FormerDirtDart

“Sounds like a buncha furriners!”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:43:37pm
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Stanley Sea  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:44:22pm

re: #55 Myron Falwell

Mailbox full.

These are good signs.

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JasonA  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:44:41pm

...

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:44:44pm

re: #77 JasonA

That’s like me getting on SEAL Team Six because of my Overwatch skills.

I was in the Navy and would not have qualified for the SEALs. And I know what the SEALs do; why is NPR allowing such crap on their network?

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Skandal  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:44:55pm
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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:45:37pm

re: #80 Stanley Sea

Mailbox full.

These are good signs.

Nope. They’re ignoring us. They don’t care.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:45:42pm

re: #74 JasonA

“cruishing left-wing rivals…”

Breitbart is propped up by billionaire Robert Mercer.

But Sebastian Gorka is so mentally ill that he believes such tripe.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:46:54pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:47:55pm

OMG. Everyone has to watch the video at the link. BRUH!!!!

fox32chicago.com

Governor of Chicago? Rauner? lol (Rahm Emmanuel is Chicago’s MAYOR)…

But that’s not the best part!

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Stanley Sea  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:48:31pm

re: #66 FormerDirtDart

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Slave labor! No prob.

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:48:41pm

Trump’s Justice Department going stop investigations and prosecution of white supremacists groups and individuals like Dylann Roof. Focus all resources on muslims.
mobile.reuters.com

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JasonA  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:49:07pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:49:17pm

re: #81 JasonA

Hang on is that a civil war uniform? From a movie… Who wears that hat?!

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Belafon  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:50:48pm

re: #85 Anymouse

Nope. They’re ignoring us. They don’t care.

I called Ratcliffe yesterday and told him he needed to tell Trump to obey the courts, even if he thinks they are wrong, because it’s required in our system. I got an email reply, though I didn’t read it.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:50:55pm

re: #84 Kragar

We know that whenever a Republican attacks a Democrat, it’s projecting their own problems on someone else. So Trump and his aides know that he is physically and mentally unfit for this office. And, as someone downstairs suggested, perhaps he is sundowning. A scary thought about a person with access to nuclear weapons.

ETA: They attacked Clinton for being unhealthy to divert attentions from Trump’s health

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:51:15pm

So when are the committee hearings for the botched operation in Yemen?

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Charles Johnson  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:51:17pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:51:20pm

re: #90 DodgerFan1988

Trump’s Justice Department going stop investigations and prosecution of white supremacists groups and individuals like Dylann Roof. Focus all resources on muslims.
mobile.reuters.com

Damn the hits just keep coming. It’s a blitzkrieg.

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JasonA  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:51:29pm

re: #92 Unshaken Defiance

Hang on is that a civil war uniform? From a movie… Who wears that hat?!

Fake news. It’s the end of a long day and I’m tired and fatigue is setting in…

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:51:31pm

re: #81 JasonA

Fake picture. It’s a still from a movie.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:52:26pm

re: #81 JasonA

As bad as that picture is, it’s not real.

One of my Twitter friends @Tonya_Song has been tirelessly trying to update ppl regarding the DAPL fiasco. 50 people were arrested and will legitimately need legal defense, but the protest camps weren’t burned down. YET.

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JasonA  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:52:35pm

re: #99 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Fake picture. It’s a still from a movie.

I took another look. Deleted it.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:52:48pm

re: #97 Unshaken Defiance

Damn the hits just keep coming. It’s a blitzkrieg.

That is likely the idea: Overwhelm opposition with a mountain of bullshit.

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JasonA  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:52:57pm

re: #100 Myron Falwell

I know, I know. It’s gone.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:52:58pm

re: #97 Unshaken Defiance

Damn the hits just keep coming. It’s a blitzkrieg.

Why would his Justice Department investigate his base?

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Moebym  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:53:51pm

I was out most of the day, and came back to find out that the President threw a tantrum at the Prime Minister of Australia and hung up on him mid-call.

Where can I go to escape from it all?

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Kragar  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:54:05pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:54:29pm
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Belafon  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:54:30pm

re: #97 Unshaken Defiance

They have the element of surprise until we get mobilized.

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JasonA  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:55:21pm
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Kragar  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:55:24pm

re: #107 Charles Johnson

See #18

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:55:32pm
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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:55:57pm

re: #106 Kragar

I will sell out my country for a Doof Wagon.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:56:30pm
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JasonA  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:56:51pm
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Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:56:55pm

re: #103 JasonA

It’s all good. I’ve fallen for stuff before, as have everyone else.

I know it’s Shaun King, but he has links to legal defense funds for the DAPL protesters:

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:58:06pm

The twitterati need to keep humiliating Trump, not necessarily because he might read that (although that’s a plus), but because his followers and supporters will read it.

Things like that spider picture above are just the right sort of satire and humiliation of their God-Emperor.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:58:46pm

re: #81 JasonA

So Jacksonian.

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Fake photo. damn it. I retweeted.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:59:02pm

re: #116 Anymouse

I guarantee you he reads all of it.

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JasonA  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:59:35pm

re: #117 Stanley Sea

Fake photo. damn it. I retweeted.

And I’ll keep apologizing, goddammit.

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Targetpractice  Feb 1, 2017 • 8:59:44pm

re: #114 JasonA

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I think the sentiment expressed downstairs is exactly right, he wanted an OBL-style raid victory that he could parade around. “See, this presidentin’ stuff ain’t so hard! I sent in Seal Team 6 and they brought me back all this intel! Obama shied away from killing these terrorists but I gave the go-ahead and it went off without a hitch!” You can tell because of the effort and lengths they’re going to sweep it under the rug.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:00:10pm
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allegro  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:01:01pm

re: #73 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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Stam-i-na…. she doesn’t have the stam-i-na.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:01:12pm

re: #88 GlutenFreeJesus

Watch at this point:

Fiery debate: Gianno Caldwell debates Richard Fowler on Chicago

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:01:41pm

So I managed to knock a dish out of the cupboard and it broke into two main pieces and not that many more, but I then managed to find one of the not many more with my foot.

Got to play the “extract porcelain from the bottom of my foot” game. Stupid sliver was maybe 3/16” long.

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JasonA  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:02:31pm
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Kragar  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:02:46pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:02:56pm

re: #120 Targetpractice

I think the sentiment expressed downstairs is exactly right, he wanted an OBL-style raid victory that he could parade around. “See, this presidentin’ stuff ain’t so hard! I sent in Seal Team 6 and they brought me back all this intel! Obama shied away from killing these terrorists but I gave the go-ahead and it went off without a hitch!” You can tell because of the effort and lengths they’re going to sweep it under the rug.

So is it time for the House to launch 7 investigations into what happened here?

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:02:58pm

Meanwhile in Wingnut field, Jim Bakker (ex-con and Felon) says women in the March on Washington were possessed by demons, and that they need people at the next protest that springs up to pray for casting out demons in those protesters.

Yes, Jim Bakker is still a thing, and is back on the Wingnut Welfare circuit grifting Evangelicals again.

wonkette.com

Wonkette’s non-commentariat defenestrates him with snark.

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bratwurst  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:05:03pm

I learned tonight that my second cousin was one of the Navy SEALs injured in the operation in Yemen that President Trump authorized.

His parents were told that his injuries are NOT life threatening. He should be just fine.

The family of another SEAL did not get such good news.

Things are not totally clear, but it seems like at least 13 others are dead, possibly including a young girl who is a US citizen.

As reported at the link above and elsewhere, this operation was considered but rejected under the previous administration.

Unfortunately, it is possible that I will grow weary of saying FUCK YOU to those on the left who thought we’d be better off with Trump over Hillary on foreign policy.

However, that time has not yet arrived.

FUCK YOU.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:05:45pm

re: #118 Ace Rothstein

I guarantee you he reads all of it.

Good. He can’t take criticism, and with hits coming from all directions he might fall apart.

Assuming Mike Pence were to become President or Acting President (and is not linked to the Trump/Russia scandal), he might be a disaster but he won’t destroy the country physicially, and would likely clean out that den of Nazis and replace them with others who are on the normal scale of wingnut.

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ckkatz  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:05:47pm

re: #124 klys (maker of Silmarils)

So I managed to knock a dish out of the cupboard and it broke into two main pieces and not that many more, but I then managed to find one of the not many more with my foot.

Got to play the “extract porcelain from the bottom of my foot” game. Stupid sliver was maybe 3/16” long.

Ouch! Sounds painful!

When I break stuff on a linoleum or tile floor, I have found that laying a lit flashlight on the floor helps me to find slivers.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:06:15pm

It gets even worse.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:06:36pm

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:06:44pm

re: #129 bratwurst

Please keep us posted re: your cousin… And if you’re ever able to get word to him, please thank him. From all of us here.

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Moebym  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:07:41pm

re: #126 Kragar

Crying for the poor, put-upon little wannabe Nazis.

Crying from laughter.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:07:52pm
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jaunte  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:07:56pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:08:01pm

re: #127 Hecuba’s daughter

So is it time for the House to launch 7 investigations into what happened here?

Of course not. After all, a Navy Seal died, it’s not like an ambassador is dead.

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I should add to my earlier assessment that it was not only an effort to “get one over” on Obama for having made fun of him as the OBL raid was going on, but I’d also hazard a guess that Bannon or Kushner pushed him to approve the raid in the hopes that a win would give him something to take the country’s attention off how big of a fuck-up he’s been domestically. Instead, all it’s done is further highlight just how out of his depth he is.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:08:47pm

re: #131 ckkatz

Ouch! Sounds painful!

When I break stuff on a linoleum or tile floor, I have found that laying a lit flashlight on the floor helps me to find slivers.

but bare feet is a guaranteed way to find them… for days to come, in fact…

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Charles Johnson  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:09:35pm
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Kragar  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:09:37pm
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ckkatz  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:09:41pm

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

but bare feet is a guaranteed way to find them… for days to come, in fact…

Very True!

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:10:29pm

re: #104 Hecuba’s daughter

Why would his Justice Department investigate his base?

One would hope out of a loyalty to our ways over Orange Cheeto. IT’S NOT HIS justice Department. It’s ours.

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Targetpractice  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:11:30pm

re: #132 jaunte

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It gets even worse.

So they knew the mission was FUBAR but they pressed ahead anyway. Was that a decision made by the SEALs or one made in Washington. Because if the latter, then somebody’s head should be rolling over this.

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:11:34pm
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MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:12:17pm
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Charles Johnson  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:13:13pm
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makeitstop  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:13:58pm

You can bet every single Benghazi motherfucker on Facebook is gonna get his nose rubbed in this shitpile of a failed mission.

In better news, UC Berkley shut down Milo tonight. Good on them.

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JasonA  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:14:06pm

Are people really supposed to be insulted over being called “Antifas?”

I mean, I kinda take pride in being anti-fascist. Am I missing something?

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bratwurst  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:14:18pm

re: #134 GlutenFreeJesus

Please keep us posted re: your cousin… And if you’re ever able to get word to him, please thank him. From all of us here.

To best honest, only ever met him once since he was a child. I have known his dad my whole life, he is like 12 years older than myself. He and his wife got the news something VERY bad was happening this time last night, do not imagine either of them slept a wink.

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ipsos  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:14:22pm

re: #126 Kragar

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You’ve got to work especially hard to mispunctuate “we’re” THAT badly.

That alone merits a face punch, IMO.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:15:15pm

re: #135 Moebym

Crying for the poor, put-upon little wannabe Nazis.

Crying from laughter.

And when folk talk about “punching Nazis” remember both Richard Spencer and these hapless fools. They make themselves look ridiculous - we’re just helping them along.

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jaunte  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:15:33pm
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Stanley Sea  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:15:53pm

re: #119 JasonA

And I’ll keep apologizing, goddammit.

Sorry, I’m so behind on the thread. I saw that you got it.

I’ll live, we’ll all live from misguided tweets.

Other shit? Who the fuck knows.

:)

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makeitstop  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:16:21pm

re: #149 JasonA

Are people really supposed to be insulted over being called “Antifas?”

I mean, I kinda take pride in being anti-fascist. Am I missing something?

Their organization is called Antifa. I’m thinking they’re actually pretty proud of it.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:16:55pm

re: #131 ckkatz

Ouch! Sounds painful!

When I break stuff on a linoleum or tile floor, I have found that laying a lit flashlight on the floor helps me to find slivers.

The anti-bacterial stings. I’d swept afterwards, but clearly not well enough.

Sigh.

But these worries are small compared to the news some have had tonight. Hoping that the recovery is swift and smooth, bratwurst.

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JasonA  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:17:33pm

re: #155 makeitstop

Their organization is called Antifa. I’m thinking they’re actually pretty proud of it.

Ohhh. I didn’t know it was the name of an actual group.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:18:13pm
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jaunte  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:18:32pm

re: #157 JasonA

Anti-Fascist Network
antifascistnetwork.org

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:19:07pm
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Teukka  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:19:15pm

re: #155 makeitstop

Their organization is called Antifa. I’m thinking they’re actually pretty proud of it.

re: #157 JasonA

Ohhh. I didn’t know it was the name of an actual group.

Antifascistic action. Very anarchistic group. Can also be typed anti-fa.
May not be confused with anti-antifa, which is the reich wingers counter to antifa.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:19:36pm

re: #73 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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My dad is in his late 60s, just a few years shy of Trump’s age. He still puts in a full day’s work at the office and typically comes home and works on home improvement projects or goes for a several-mile bike ride.

LOW ENERGY.

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JasonA  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:21:41pm

It’s The Daily Mail, so there is that…

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makeitstop  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:22:12pm

re: #157 JasonA

Ohhh. I didn’t know it was the name of an actual group.

Yeah, some musician friends have started a Long Island chapter, an offshoot of NYC Antifa. I think I’ll throw down some support money. These LI punks are some of the most stand up people I’ve ever met. Gives me hope for the future.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:22:55pm

re: #132 jaunte

This raid should have never happened.

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Moebym  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:24:09pm

I wonder what Chuck Todd thinks about Trump’s actions w/r/t the raid in Yemen. I mean, he didn’t like his presidential candidates “overprepared”, so he must be pleased.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:24:36pm

re: #126 Kragar

Aww. Betcha they did Nazi that coming.

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allegro  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:25:08pm

re: #162 A wild WITHAK appeared!

My dad is in his late 60s, just a few years shy of Trump’s age. He still puts in a full day’s work at the office and typically comes home and works on home improvement projects or goes for a several-mile bike ride.

LOW ENERGY.

So one of those guys who makes others of us - okay me - feel like lazy slugs. (looking at an ever-growing pile of laundry that I wake up to every morning and go, naw, I’ll do it tomorrow)

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:25:40pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:25:58pm

re: #168 allegro

So one of those guys who makes others of us - okay me - feel like lazy slugs. (looking at an ever-growing pile of laundry that I wake up to every morning and go, naw, I’ll do it tomorrow)

I was good and did the non-workout-clothes load today.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:26:55pm

re: #168 allegro

So one of those guys who makes others of us - okay me - feel like lazy slugs. (looking at an ever-growing pile of laundry that I wake up to every morning and go, naw, I’ll do it tomorrow)

Don’t get me wrong, my dad can be lazy with the best of ‘em, but I’m glad I inherited his work ethic.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:27:32pm

re: #145 Scottish Dragon

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JasonA  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:27:38pm
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allegro  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:28:18pm

re: #170 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I was good and did the non-workout-clothes load today.

I washed my shiny new car. So there’s that.

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:28:43pm
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MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:31:10pm

re: #132 jaunte

The incompetent Cheeto brigade.

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Jebediah, RBG  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:31:25pm

re: #13 The Madness of King Orange (aka Sophist)

Yes!

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:31:28pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:33:09pm

re: #163 JasonA

Oh he was just a young spirited college aged boy back then!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:37:46pm

Getting in a fight with Australia? SMDH.

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allegro  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:38:43pm

So ‘splain this to me… who is in charge of actually planning these raids and is our ire being misplaced? So yeah, we know Trump et al are fools and shouldn’t be in charge of kindergarten pudding snacks, but someone put forth this plan and apparently more than once if Obama rejected it.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:39:20pm

Mr. Johnson here noted only a couple days ago that Twitter was going to do something about people using their platform to promote extremism and violence, and predicted Twitter would do nothing.

How many people have reported those two butthurt Nazis? After getting maced, getting booted from Twitter (if Twitter is serious) would just add more butthurt.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:39:26pm

re: #163 JasonA

It’s The Daily Mail, so there is that…

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WTF if true.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:40:02pm

re: #158 FormerDirtDart

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Bryan, you wouldn’t know religious liberty if it bit you on your sexually repressed fat ass.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:41:37pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:41:50pm

re: #180 HappyWarrior

Getting in a fight with Australia? SMDH.

We’re picking a fight with the men who survived to maturity on an island nation where everything is constantly trying to kill them.

We’re fucked!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:42:54pm

re: #186 Targetpractice

We’re picking a fight with the men who survived to maturity on an island nation where everything is constantly trying to kill them.

We’re fucked!

I can’t believe we’re only two weeks into this shit storm. I picked a good time to start drinking more again.

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William Lewis  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:43:43pm

re: #133 Unshaken Defiance

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Stanley Sea  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:51:08pm

re: #168 allegro

So one of those guys who makes others of us - okay me - feel like lazy slugs. (looking at an ever-growing pile of laundry that I wake up to every morning and go, naw, I’ll do it tomorrow)

You and me both. I need my cleaning lady to come so I can get my shit together.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:51:10pm

re: #185 GlutenFreeJesus

@jasoninthehouse Bruh. The Yemen raid. When do the investigations start?

The thing is, you know that any hearing/investigation about the Yemen raid by Congress would focus on identifying the leakers, and punishing them

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DuckDharma  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:51:11pm

This girl..is a dumbass but getting pepper-sprayed for just standing there with a MAGA hat after giving props to peaceful protesters is fucking gross and so are the other vids of people getting beaten with flag poles and I wish people here were not cheerleading this shit just because it’s anti-Milo, anti-Trump.

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MsJ  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:52:39pm

re: #191 DuckDharma

This girl..is a dumbass but getting pepper-sprayed for just standing there with a MAGA hat after giving props to peaceful protesters is fucking gross and so are the other vids of people getting beaten with flag poles and I wish people here were not cheerleading this shit just because it’s anti-Milo, anti-Trump.

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They want that. I have little sympathy.

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JasonA  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:52:48pm
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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:53:04pm

re: #188 William Lewis

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William Lewis  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:53:44pm

re: #191 DuckDharma

She chose to stand with the enemy. I have no sympathy.

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allegro  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:53:57pm

re: #189 Stanley Sea

You and me both. I need my cleaning lady to come so I can get my shit together.

My cleaning lady got busted for selling grass and got thrown outa the park. True story. LOL (but she still gets me great herb)

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:57:37pm

re: #191 DuckDharma

This girl..is a dumbass but getting pepper-sprayed for just standing there with a MAGA hat after giving props to peaceful protesters is fucking gross and so are the other vids of people getting beaten with flag poles and I wish people here were not cheerleading this shit just because it’s anti-Milo, anti-Trump.

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She wasn’t pepper-sprayed or maced, fully dressed, the photo shows her standing in a bathroom (of the opposite sex) with cops, not rinsing off her face in water. She’s lying for support from her special snowflake friends.

Nazis stand for genocide. In the Seventies the National Alliance was one of the most dangerous groups ever spawned in the USA.

Nope. I will defend myself from Nazis, as they want me dead. I would hope when it comes to it you will defend me to rather than a “magic balance fairy let’s get along” argument.

They. Want. Genocide. (and apparently sympathy for it)

Pacifism does not mean ignoring defending someone.

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William Lewis  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:58:00pm

re: #194 A wild WITHAK appeared!

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 9:59:11pm

re: #194 A wild WITHAK appeared!

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:00:59pm

re: #198 William Lewis

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Joe Bacon  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:01:13pm

You still have millions of brainwashed Americans who will gladly drink this in the name of Jay-Zuss!

Yes they’ll gladly chug this down over and over again!
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:01:33pm

re: #116 Anymouse

The twitterati need to keep humiliating Trump, not necessarily because he might read that (although that’s a plus), but because his followers and supporters will read it.

Let’s not forget to go after liar extraordinare Kelly Ann Conway, too.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:03:17pm

re: #197 Anymouse

The girl in Duck’s post is different than those two Nazis further up.

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DuckDharma  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:03:23pm

re: #197 Anymouse

Look who didn’t watch the video. Also, I don’t think those girls are “Nazis” from looking at their social media.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:05:40pm

re: #196 allegro

My cleaning lady got busted for selling grass and got thrown outa the park. True story. LOL (but she still gets me great herb)

Double whammy!

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Kragar  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:05:41pm
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Stanley Sea  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:06:23pm

re: #197 Anymouse

You are talking about a different video.

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DuckDharma  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:07:42pm

re: #203 GlutenFreeJesus

Correct, but they were there together.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:13:01pm

(spit)
nytimes.com

In an opinion piece at the New York Times, Robert S. Young (who says he is a coastal geologist) says a Science March is a bad idea, because it would make science look political to wingnuts.

Dude: Lead, follow, or get out of the way, but “why can’t we get along” is not going to work with “Burn him, he’s a witch.”

You are the enemy, they politicised it not you. You are a climate change researcher. It is projection with conservatives, always.

I am a coastal geologist. I direct a center where our mission is to conduct scientific research and then communicate that science to elected officials, regulators, even private entities and the public. There is no question that the proposed March for Science will make my job more difficult and increase polarization.

Please understand, I don’t shy away from openly presenting the facts about the changing climate and rising seas. But I’ve learned that doing so is not without risk.

So you’re an intelligent educated idiot. Ask Galileo about “risk.” You’re whinging about what, funding? They’re going to take that anyway. Censorship? They’re already doing that. Your job? Damn it, man you study sea level rise (or so you claim).

But, but my job!!! Can’t we all get along!!!

Don’t worry, we high school educated protesters out here will defend your right to academic freedom and the right to publish your work, even if you just want to say “hit me again that felt good.”

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Moebym  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:14:12pm

re: #209 Anymouse

This is what too many people don’t get:

Everything is political. Everything.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:17:19pm
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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:17:57pm

re: #204 DuckDharma

Look who didn’t watch the video. Also, I don’t think those girls are “Nazis” from looking at their social media.

I didn’t watch the video. I clicked on the link to the Twitter feed where Kragar and others are mocking them relentlessly.

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allegro  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:18:51pm

re: #209 Anymouse

Please understand, I don’t shy away from openly presenting the facts about the changing climate and rising seas. But I’ve learned that doing so is not without risk.

That’s why. There should never be risk involved in sharing research findings and facts. That there is, by his own admission, is his answer.

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Targetpractice  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:21:46pm

re: #211 FormerDirtDart

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I checked over at FR and the Freepers are absolutely aghast at how badly Trump botched this whole thing and want his head for the death of the SEAL and…and…

Sorry, I’m just joshin’ ya, they’re making excuses and think any “officials” who are speaking anonymously are lying their asses off to make Trump look bad.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:23:34pm

re: #214 Targetpractice

I checked over at FR and the Freepers are absolutely aghast at how badly Trump botched this whole thing and want his head for the death of the SEAL and…and…

Sorry, I’m just joshin’ ya, they’re making excuses and think any “officials” who are speaking anonymously are lying their asses off to make Trump look bad.

Because he learned his lesson about firing Sally Yates after she spoke out publicly.

According to folk like them, she should have simply resigned.

Like projection, conservatives also want everything both ways.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:24:13pm

re: #210 Moebym

This is what too many people don’t get:

Everything is political. Everything.

A FB friend posted a comment pleading with people to quit being political and hostile and just be nice to each other. She seems to want FB to be a safe place where people share happy thoughts and family pictures, and avoid all conflict.

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Targetpractice  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:25:04pm

re: #216 Hecuba’s daughter

A FB friend posted a comment pleading with people to quit being political and hostile and just be nice to each other. She seems to want FB to be a safe place where people share happy thoughts and family pictures, and avoid all conflict.

Let me guess, she voted Trump and is now trying to get people to forget about it.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:26:21pm

re: #216 Hecuba’s daughter

A FB friend posted a comment pleading with people to quit being political and hostile and just be nice to each other. She seems to want FB to be a safe place where people share happy thoughts and family pictures, and avoid all conflict.

I had an acquaintance post up “I’m bored with this political crap. Trump won. Get over it.”

I replied with:

“Trump didn’t win. We’ve all lost.”

Way more likes than her original post. lol

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:28:16pm

I suppose if she is so upset about politics on Faceplant, she could make her page private and invitation only. Then she only has to listen to the political opinions she agrees with.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:30:04pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:30:43pm

re: #217 Targetpractice

Let me guess, she voted Trump and is now trying to get people to forget about it.

I don’t think that’s it. The Trump voters I know are still aggressive in defending him and talking about how Presidential he is and how proud they are of his performance. I have some friends who really try to avoid anything political — including voting — and she seems to be one of those.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:32:30pm

FOX News Channel continuing to spread the derp that California’s voter system is subject to “voter fraud”:

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:37:17pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:38:10pm

re: #221 Hecuba’s daughter

I don’t think that’s it. The Trump voters I know are still aggressive in defending him and talking about how Presidential he is and how proud they are of his performance. I have some friends who really try to avoid anything political — including voting — and she seems to be one of those.

I’ve noticed that while wingnuts are still hardcore Trump, more and more the “Well, he’s better than Hillary” crowd are quickly beginning to give into the buyer’s remorse.

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Moebym  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:38:32pm

re: #221 Hecuba’s daughter

I have some friends who really try to avoid anything political — including voting

It must be nice to avoid the consequences of elections by not voting.

What do you mean it doesn’t work that way?

(/s, by the way)

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:39:28pm
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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:40:02pm
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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:41:44pm

re: #225 Moebym

It must be nice to avoid the consequences of elections by not voting.

What do you mean it doesn’t work that way?

(/s, by the way)

My mother never voted in her life before this election. She would have crawled over ground glass with a broken arm to vote against Mark Kirk and Donald Trump.

As a veteran she felt it was her duty to stay neutral in elections, even after she was long out of the military.

Trump came along and she changed her mind right quick.

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Targetpractice  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:42:13pm

re: #223 Anymouse

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I think we have to stop and remember that current circumstances are actually acceptable to a lot of Bros, because they’re convinced that this will aid the “revolution,” that anger against Trump will magically sweep in a Bernie-style socialist in 2020 and give him the Congress he needs to pass their entire wishlist.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:44:13pm

re: #229 Targetpractice

I think we have to stop and remember that current circumstances are actually acceptable to a lot of Bros, because they’re convinced that this will aid the “revolution,” that anger against Trump will magically sweep in a Bernie-style socialist in 2020 and give him the Congress he needs to pass their entire wishlist.

First they came for the socialists… . Yeah, no. Such people are engaged in magical thinking. To move toward a more socialist system (or any other), you have to do it a bit at a time, or you’ll likely wind up dead.

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Hecuba's daughter  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:45:16pm

re: #229 Targetpractice

I think we have to stop and remember that current circumstances are actually acceptable to a lot of Bros, because they’re convinced that this will aid the “revolution,” that anger against Trump will magically sweep in a Bernie-style socialist in 2020 and give him the Congress he needs to pass their entire wishlist.

It’s amazing how delusional so many Bros remain At least my Bro friends all supported her, though they still think he could have won.

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Sherlock Hound  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:48:40pm

re: #230 Anymouse

First they came for the socialists… . Yeah, no. Such people are engaged in magical thinking. To move toward a more socialist system (or any other), you have to do it a bit at a time, or you’ll likely wind up dead.

When it’s all or nothing, you’re going to get nothing before you get anything, assuming you’re one of the lucky. Otherwise, you’ll be fortunate to die quietly, rather than, say, in a line of people shot on the roadside.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:55:45pm

re: #231 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s amazing how delusional so many Bros remain At least my Bro friends all supported her, though they still think he could have won.

I am still wondering how many of those so-called bros are actually rodent copulators.

I supported Sanders. I caucused for him. He won my state. I campaigned locally for Clinton when it became obvious he was going to lose the primary.

If he couldn’t win the primary, how the heck would he win the General Election? “He polled better with independents than Clinton” is not an argument worth entertaining.

I think Senator Sanders is actually positioned better in the Senate.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 10:56:20pm
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FormerDirtDart  Feb 1, 2017 • 11:00:52pm
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Targetpractice  Feb 1, 2017 • 11:02:52pm

re: #233 Anymouse

I am still wondering how many of those so-called bros are actually rodent copulators.

I supported Sanders. I caucused for him. He won my state. I campaigned locally for Clinton when it became obvious he was going to lose the primary.

If he couldn’t win the primary, how the heck would he win the General Election? “He polled better with independents than Clinton” is not an argument worth entertaining.

I think Senator Sanders is actually positioned better in the Senate.

I can only speak for the Bros I personally spoke with, but they were (for the most part) true-believers who really did think that the election of Bernie was going to lead to socialist revolution that would turn America into a utopia. And that if Trump won, then they’d reach the same goal because he would so badly ruin America that the legions of voters would rise up and demand a socialist be installed in the White House.

I don’t doubt that a good-sized slice of the Bernie Bros were rodent fornicators, but most of them have since dropped the act and gone back to being Trump supporters. The Bros are still out there, screaming that the DNC screwed Bernie and it’s time to burn down the party to usher in their “revolution.”

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Puss Power  Feb 1, 2017 • 11:03:32pm

re: #222 Anymouse

FOX News Channel continuing to spread the derp that California’s voter system is subject to “voter fraud”:

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Yeah, because we use paper ballots and check. every. one. by hand when they come in — that’s why it takes us so long to count them.

(Even the Daily Caller (!) knew better.)

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 11:04:18pm

But Her E-mails! Expect Delays

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2017 • 11:06:55pm

This is still the gold standard for what a nuclear strike would look like, according to Hollywood.

The Nuclear Apocalypse Scene - Terminator 2 (1991) - HD

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 1, 2017 • 11:16:34pm

OK, it’s time to
PANIC

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 1, 2017 • 11:25:18pm

re: #221 Hecuba’s daughter

I don’t think that’s it. The Trump voters I know are still aggressive in defending him and talking about how Presidential he is and how proud they are of his performance. I have some friends who really try to avoid anything political — including voting — and she seems to be one of those.

I don’t talk politics on Facebook.

I also don’t read Facebook much and when I do, I try to stick to a heavily curated list of people whose opinions I am actually interested in (and who, for the most part, don’t talk politics).

It’s not that I don’t care, it’s that I think it’s one of those things best discussed in person with people. Also it reduces the number of family members I want to scream at.

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Ubiq  Feb 1, 2017 • 11:25:36pm

This is for all you gaming nerds - just a little project I’ve been working on to keep my own sanity (click on images for bigger views).

trumpsterfireblog.wordpress.com

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 1, 2017 • 11:26:25pm

re: #242 Ubiq

This is for all you gaming nerds - just a little project I’ve been working on to keep my own sanity (click on images for bigger views).

trumpsterfireblog.wordpress.com

Hah, I’ll be passing that along to a friend or two.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2017 • 11:30:55pm

re: #241 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I don’t talk politics on Facebook.

I also don’t read Facebook much and when I do, I try to stick to a heavily curated list of people whose opinions I am actually interested in (and who, for the most part, don’t talk politics).

It’s not that I don’t care, it’s that I think it’s one of those things best discussed in person with people. Also it reduces the number of family members I want to scream at.

I keep politics on my Facebook to a bare minimum. It’s mostly music or skiing over there. With the politics I try to keep it at a once-a-month level. It’s worked well for me.

And you should say it klys! You only get political *here* at LGF. Your social media is so tame, serene, and fraught-free. Y’all, for politics-free shit, follow @sylk!

😛

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Feb 1, 2017 • 11:35:08pm

re: #244 teleskiguy

I keep politics on my Facebook to a bare minimum. It’s mostly music or skiing over there. With the politics I try to keep it at a once-a-month level. It’s worked well for me.

And you should say it klys! You only get political *here* at LGF. Your social media is so tame, serene, and fraught-free. Y’all, for politics-free shit, follow @sylk!

😛

Hahaha I’ve actually talked politics on Twitter! Occasionally! But also hockey and to do lists and running stuff and cats and cross stitch and reminders to take care of yourself.

I did make a semi-political Facebook post yesterday for probably the first time ever, about how we’re at the point where this is a “are we a democratic republic” issue and not a Democrat versus Republican issue. And also that I wasn’t really open to debating that. Of course his aunt comments that she won’t say anything and we probably know where she stands (old white lady in GA? yeah, I have my suspicions that you just pretty much verified) but could I wish her favorite nephew a happy birthday.

Some people really don’t understand Facebook.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 11:35:29pm

re: #240 FormerDirtDart

OK, it’s time to
PANIC

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That was predicted after the record drought in Iowa and Nebraska in 2012-2013. Swine were slaugtered in record numbers (along with beef cattle), which flooded the markets and dropped prices, but devastated herds.

Law of supply and demand is now driving prices back up.

Sadly I didn’t think to can a sufficient supply of bacon to ride out the high prices.

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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2017 • 11:43:47pm

re: #245 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Some people really don’t understand Facebook.

And also take it too fucking seriously. Like it’s their *sole* source of information for everything. I see that a lot.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 11:45:50pm

re: #247 teleskiguy

And also take it too fucking seriously. Like it’s their *sole* source of information for everything. I see that a lot.

My sole source of information is magazines and newspapers (well, the Internet news services too). I’ll bet I can name the ones I read, unlike Sarah Palin my answer wouldn’t be “All of them, Katie.”

——-

I just learned last night that an anagram for Donald Trump is “Lord Dampnut”

Pass it on.

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BeachDem  Feb 1, 2017 • 11:50:07pm

re: #161 Teukka

Antifascistic action. Very anarchistic group. Can also be typed anti-fa.
May not be confused with anti-antifa, which is the reich wingers counter to antifa.

The anti-antifa name just slays me-if you’re against anti-fascists, doesn’t that simply make you a fascist?

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 11:50:14pm
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teleskiguy  Feb 1, 2017 • 11:50:40pm

I saw in passing that Sergey said hi. Hi Sergey! We weirdo fucks missed you!

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Targetpractice  Feb 1, 2017 • 11:51:39pm

I honestly think at this point the problem for Democrats is that there’s just an avalanche of shit that has come down on this country’s head all at once, such that getting momentum on any one outrage is difficult because each day is so jam-packed that it all blends together into a general anger.

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 11:53:04pm

re: #249 BeachDem

The anti-antifa name just slays me-if you’re against anti-fascists, doesn’t that simply make you a fascist?

It’s something akin to antidisestablishmentarian (there’s a word I don’t use every day in a sentence): One who is opposed to those that are opposed to the withdrawal of government support of an established church (in other words, Christian wingnuts).

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Anymouse  Feb 1, 2017 • 11:59:44pm

Sydney Morning Herald:

smh.com.au

Malcolm Turnbull Learns Donald Trump Doesn’t Make Nice

Turnbull almost got away with remaining silent on the Trump call - the old diplomatic sensibilities kicked in and the White House at first issued a sanitised account of the phone call - which was the usual “blah, blah, blah…enduring strength…closeness…critical for world peace…Australia/America loves us”.

But if Trump wants to be a bully on the world stage, he needs victims; and a bully is only as good as his reputation - so his victims must be humiliated by the telling of their humiliation, either in a tweet or, as in this case, a background briefing to The Washington Post.

Infuriating for Turnbull, it didn’t have to be Australia. The Trump team could have just as easily slipped the name of any other leader into their account of how tough the new president is.

(more at the link)

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Cheechako  Feb 2, 2017 • 12:02:36am

Anyone found photos of trump at the arrival at Andrews AFB of the Seal Team 6 member who was killed in action? You know he wants to twitter about how compassionate he is.
To me, it’s just an attempt for trump to “look Presidential”, just like President Obama at these sad events. It’s even worse now that we’ve learned the mission was botched.

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Anymouse  Feb 2, 2017 • 12:05:22am

Another article today at the Sydney Morning Herald.

Guess they are subtle with their headlines:

Malcolm Turnbull’s Approach Vindicated by President Donald Trump’s Madness

(I wonder what they really mean. /s)

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Anymouse  Feb 2, 2017 • 12:17:05am

They are also speculating in Australia who leaked details of the phone call. It would appear one of the Fantastic Four is a turncoat:

There were only a handful of witnesses to the conversation which took place early on Saturday afternoon, Washington time.

Mr Trump’s controversial chief strategist Stephen Bannon, national security adviser Michael Flynn and White House press secretary Sean Spicer were in the Oval Office when the call was made. Mr Turnbull was the fifth world leader Mr Trump had spoken to that day. It was just after 5pm and the newly minted president had earlier finished calls with the leaders of Japan, Germany, Russia and France.

—- —-

Some in Canberra have speculated that Mr Bannon, Mr Trump’s close and most ideologically fierce adviser, may have leaked the details about the call in order to demonstrate that even if Mr Trump eventually accepts the refugee deal, he is doing so only grudgingly and angrily.

smh.com.au

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Anymouse  Feb 2, 2017 • 12:28:38am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 2, 2017 • 12:29:58am

re: #257 Anymouse

They are also speculating in Australia who leaked details of the phone call. It would appear one of the Fantastic Four is a turncoat:

—- —-

smh.com.au

You know, two months ago, if you told me this was how the first TWO WEEKS would go, I’d have said you were full of shit. And I have always figured Trump was a reactive malignant narcissist whose only talent was convincing enough people that he isn’t as colossal a fuckup as he really is. But I didn’t think he could POSSIBLY be this bad.

Worse than that, instead of finding people to help whose calmness, intelligence, and emotional balance would mitigate his worst tendencies, he appears to have fastened onto someone who’s worse than him in every conceivable way.

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Anymouse  Feb 2, 2017 • 12:40:14am

re: #259 Blind Frog Belly White

I got asked by a Sanders supporter here in my E-mail stable during the campaign why I’d chosen to support Hillary Clinton after Bernie Sanders bowed out.

I pointed out that whether I supported Hillary Clinton’s proposals or not, when faced with a choice between the fascist and the not-fascist, you vote for the not-fascist. It’s really that simple a choice.

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ckkatz  Feb 2, 2017 • 12:44:33am

re: #239 teleskiguy

The one that got me was “The Day After”. I was in the military at the time. After seeing that, I spent a lot of time thinking about nuclear war and what it meant to me. Remember that this was in the time of Reagan and his off the cuff remarks like “We begin bombing in 5 minutes”.

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Anymouse  Feb 2, 2017 • 12:48:38am

Laura Ingraham is trying to push the idea that it is liberals showing disrespect to Gold Star Families rather than Donald Trump.

On her putative parenting blog Momzette (which is filled with a whole lot of politics and not too much parenting advice), she has article after article of putative unsourced reports of liberals mistreating Gold Star Families (boos on an airplane, spitting on a Gold Star Family, &c)

I think I am beginning to figure out why the narrative is being shifted with motorised goalposts from “Trump Insults Gold Star Families” and “Paladino Accuses Gold Star Families of Supporting Terrorism” to “Liberals Hate Gold Star Families.”

Momzette is spreading propaganda.

I won’t link her swill Website here, but if you are interested you can go look.

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Alyosha  Feb 2, 2017 • 12:56:49am

Donald Trump fucked up big time.
Australia has been a stalwart US ally since WWII, so unshakeable that we even signed on to that wretched Iraq expedition. In the past, I was one of those who jumped aboard the anti-American bandwagon during the Bush years. My position has matured since then and I recognise now the importance of our relationship with the US. Much of what we hope to acheive in the region can only be guaranteed by the ANZUS treaty.
That said…

Our feckless PM has made a point to not criticise Trump over his Muslim ban. Partly because, as the junior partner we don’t make waves but mostly because, as regards immigration policy, our conservative government doesn’t have a moral leg to stand on. Ghost of a Flea linked to pieces on how we’ve thrown refugees into offshore detention centres where they have been subjected to incredibly inhumane treatment which has led some to self-immolate. It’s utterly dreadful. Those refugees are refused access to Australia, and were at one point told that even if those people gained residency in another country, they would not be permitted to come here later. We are an incredibly petty, racist country.

Flash forward to today. Trump now has this refugee resettlement agreement (negotiated by Obama in an example of his amazing mastery of three-dimensional chess) sitting on his desk.
PM Turnbull wants him to honour it because if he scraps the deal, he has over a thousand people sitting in limbo offshore, further tainting our humanitarian reputation.
He can’t soften his position and he also can’t criticise Trump, because he’s in perpetual fear of his ultra-conservative backbench which includes ex-PM Abbott.
So, in spite of what was clearly an unpleasant phone call, Turnbull is playing it coy, using the diplomatic platitudes that are all too often nowadays, proving to be useless.

So… to recap. Turnbull looks like a humiliated submissive. Trump is so out of his depth he can’t even parlay with a lapdog. Both look like fools because they can’t agree on a deal that treats twelve hundred vulnerable people like chattel.
Hopefully we see the arse-end of these two galahs and their shitty coteries as they’re kicked to the curb before they fuck up worse than they already have.

*spit*

:)

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Anymouse  Feb 2, 2017 • 1:02:32am

re: #263 Alyosha

My sincere apologies for a few ten thousand fools in the USA electing this guy. I believe I have an appropriate gif that explains Mr. Trump.

(rummaging through image library)

Here it is:

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ckkatz  Feb 2, 2017 • 1:07:58am

re: #263 Alyosha

I second Anymouse’s apology to Australia and Australians for the behavior of my alledged President. I truely regret the baffoonary he inflicted upon your Prime Minister.

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Alyosha  Feb 2, 2017 • 1:09:06am

re: #264 Anymouse

If you knew me circa 2003, we wouldn’t even be talking. I read antiwar .com on the reg (sounds legit, but it’s a libertarian, Putin-humping site) and hated everything about the US.
Now I’m a US liberal. I know better. There are so many dedicated, awesome people in the States and I intend on educating people on that fact.

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Alyosha  Feb 2, 2017 • 1:10:13am

re: #265 ckkatz

I second Anymouse’s apology to Australia and Australians for the behavior of my alledged President. I truely regret the baffoonary he inflicted upon your Prime Minister.

Any injury inflicted on Turnbull is his own damn fault.
No apologies necessary.
But thanks, regardless.

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Anymouse  Feb 2, 2017 • 1:14:42am

re: #267 Alyosha

Any injury inflicted on Turnbull is his own damn fault.
No apologies necessary.
But thanks, regardless.

We wouldn’t even be having this conversation about Prime Minister Turnbull and what he should or should not have done if we were on alt-Earth and Hillary Clinton was now President.

Wingnuts here instead would be decrying her first executive order mandating taco trucks on every corner. /s

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Alyosha  Feb 2, 2017 • 1:17:14am

re: #268 Anymouse

Believe me, we feel the loss of Clinton as President very accutely.

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Anymouse  Feb 2, 2017 • 1:17:36am

On said alt-Earth I would win the Powerball this week too.

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ckkatz  Feb 2, 2017 • 1:23:19am

By the way, Anymouse, did you see the Omaha World Tribune article about the Nebraska State Flag being flown upside down for 10 days at the State Capitol before anybody noticed?

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ckkatz  Feb 2, 2017 • 1:24:02am

Sorry Omaha World Herald article….

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Anymouse  Feb 2, 2017 • 1:24:45am

I’m not as familiar with Australian politics as I probably should be since Australia has long been a great friend to the United States, but my understanding is that Prime Minister Turnbull is trying to be a cautious and pragmatic politician.

Cautious and pragmatic is definitely the wrong position to take with Mr. Trump. Mr. Trump is not a rational actor and every advisor he has is even unmoored from reality than the last.

In a parliamentary system you at least have an option denied to us: You can have a no-confidence vote in the government followed by snap elections if the government proves incompetent.

We embrace the crazy here. Ousting the President is nigh-impossible save an impeachment bill in the House and trial in the Senate. Since the Republicans control both, they will only do it if they think their party will be destroyed.

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ckkatz  Feb 2, 2017 • 1:29:01am

G’Night All

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Anymouse  Feb 2, 2017 • 1:31:09am

When one of your advisers helping you pick cabinet members is known as “The Stupidest Man on the Internet” you know there is a problem in the government.

I suppose stupid is a step up from crazy. Alex Jones’s Infowars in the press briefing room? Setting up Skype chats to ask questions? Gaaaa.

Wingnut: Mr. Trump, when are you going to launch the investigation about Hillary Clinton’s knowledge, coverup, and suppression of the alien landings at Roswell, New Mexico, and the secret alien base at Area 51?

If nothing else, those press conferences could get entertaining, in a watching-a-train-wreck-in-slow-motion kind of way.

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Targetpractice  Feb 2, 2017 • 1:33:40am

re: #275 Anymouse

When one of your advisers helping you pick cabinet members is known as “The Stupidest Man on the Internet” you know there is a problem in the government.

I suppose stupid is a step up from crazy. Alex Jones’s Infowars in the press briefing room? Setting up Skype chats to ask questions? Gaaaa.

If nothing else, those press conferences could get entertaining, in a watching-a-train-wreck-in-slow-motion kind of way.

I’m with Eric Boehlert on this, the media should get up and walk out, but they’ll instead roll with it because “access.”

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Anymouse  Feb 2, 2017 • 1:35:06am

re: #274 ckkatz

G’Night All

Sleep well. I’m off to bed as well; my wife and I are headed to Sidney (our Sidney, not Australia’s Sydney).

re: #271 ckkatz

By the way, Anymouse, did you see the Omaha World Tribune article about the Nebraska State Flag being flown upside down for 10 days at the State Capitol before anybody noticed?

Yes I did. It was not to protest Mr. Trump (this state overwhelmingly voted for him).

The problem is the design of our flag. (I have accidentally run it up the village flagpole upside down as well: Now I have marked the hoist of the flag with the word TOP to make sure I don’t do that again.)

Vexiollogists in the United States routinely rank Nebraska’s flag last for its design. There is yet another bill before the Unicameral right now to change our flag design.

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Alyosha  Feb 2, 2017 • 1:43:31am

re: #273 Anymouse

Yeah, Turnbull is a semi-charismatic, somewhat socially liberal-minded business leader (who recently admitted he donated 1.75 million to his own part during the last election)*. Also a republican, like me.

At the moment he’s got the tail of the conservative tiger and is afraid to make policy decisions of any kind that might expose him to attacks, not just from the Labor opposition (under the steady leadership of Bill Shorten; a wooden character who still has the job presumably because he’s a master of factional warfare) but from the ultra-cons in his own party.

We’ll see if his brand of pragmatism works out.

*big news here, but small potatoes in the US.

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Targetpractice  Feb 2, 2017 • 1:45:49am

In response to something said earlier, Trump’s actions of the last two weeks haven’t surprised me so much as the rapidity of them. I expected him to at least wait until his cabinet was seated before he began going bugfuck insane, which is why I continue to suspect that he or somebody in his inner circle *couBannongh* know that there is something coming down the pipe that will nuke his presidency.

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Cheechako  Feb 2, 2017 • 1:49:10am

re: #279 Targetpractice

In response to something said earlier, Trump’s actions of the last two weeks haven’t surprised me so much as the rapidity of them. I expected him to at least wait until his cabinet was seated before he began going bugfuck insane, which is why I continue to suspect that he or somebody in his inner circle *couBannongh* know that there is something coming down the pipe that will nuke his presidency.

Maybe “Gish Gallop” will have to be renamed “trump gallop”…or, maybe “trump trots”.

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freetoken  Feb 2, 2017 • 1:53:05am

re: #279 Targetpractice

Nothing has really surprised me… yet.

re: #280 Cheechako

Yup, Trump Gallop. This is his strategy.

The real world, as we now see with Australia and Mexico, is that Trump is untenable to be President. You and me and most people here knew that, of course, but many Americans live in a fantasy land, it would appear from my Facebook feed.

It’s pretty clear that the Republican hierarchy still think they can benefit from Trump. I expect them to go along for awhile. At least until Trump wants to start messing with the appropriations in Congressional districts and to States. Then it will get interesting, as even the religious right in Congress like to protect their own slices of pie.

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Anymouse  Feb 2, 2017 • 2:00:17am

re: #278 Alyosha

Yeah, Turnbull is a semi-charismatic, somewhat socially liberal-minded business leader (who recently admitted he donated 1.75 million to his own part during the last election)*. Also a republican, like me.

At the moment he’s got the tail of the conservative tiger and is afraid to make policy decisions of any kind that might expose him to attacks, not just from the Labor opposition (under the steady leadership of Bill Shorten; a wooden character who still has the job presumably because he’s a master of factional warfare) but from the ultra-cons in his own party.

We’ll see if his brand of pragmatism works out.

*big news here, but small potatoes in the US.

My brother-in-law just told my wife his students in his classroom in Texas have already told him in private they miss President Obama.

I’ve got a deal for you: We’ll take somewhat timid but otherwise pragmatic PM Turnbull, and we’ll offer you three picks from a field including Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Alberta), Sen. James Infofe (R-Snowball in February), SMOTI, Steve Bannon, Richard Spencer (R-Nazi), Sen. Paul Ryan (R-Galt’s Gulch), Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Turtle).

I suspect none of them would survive a day with your flora and fauna. We have deadly stuff here in W. Nebraska (scorpions, rattlesnakes, wolves, and mountain lions) but nothing like your spiders the size of my car.

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Cheechako  Feb 2, 2017 • 2:02:03am

Back in the AM

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freetoken  Feb 2, 2017 • 2:03:47am

I don’t even check Google News anymore, haven’t since the election. Part of it is simply that there isn’t much more to be learned, I think, about how disaster upon which we have embarked, and I find little entertainment in watching trains crash.

The other is that Google has gotten rid of many of the pre-defined categories that I used to like.

Anyway, I now look at the “news” from afar, sort of how one looks into an old spider-infested storm cellar that hasn’t been opened in years.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 2, 2017 • 2:05:14am

re: #146 MsJ

“It was at the end of a long day & he was tired & fatigue was setting in.”
CNN on White House’s response to Trump’s hanging up on Aussie PM.

Poor Donald, he gets so tired just working banker’s hours:

Trump made the call to Turnbull about 5 p.m. Saturday from his desk in the Oval Office, where he was joined by chief strategist Stephen K. Bannon, national security adviser Michael Flynn and White House press secretary Sean Spicer.

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Alyosha  Feb 2, 2017 • 2:06:06am

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Timothy Watson  Feb 2, 2017 • 2:06:11am

re: #193 JasonA

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And Australia should be orange and blue since they are also a TPP signatory.

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Anymouse  Feb 2, 2017 • 2:06:43am

Actually I wouldn’t want to send any of those guys to Australia, I don’t hate the country that much.

Perhaps a nice windswept beach on South Georgia Island.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 2, 2017 • 2:08:16am

re: #284 freetoken

I don’t even check Google News anymore, haven’t since the election. Part of it is simply that there isn’t much more to be learned, I think, about how disaster upon which we have embarked, and I find little entertainment in watching trains crash.

The other is that Google has gotten rid of many of the pre-defined categories that I used to like.

Anyway, I now look at the “news” from afar, sort of how one looks into an old spider-infested storm cellar that hasn’t been opened in years.

I was checking the Washington Post a couple times a day before the inauguration, now I can’t stomach looking at it once a day.

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Anymouse  Feb 2, 2017 • 2:09:39am

re: #285 Timothy Watson

Poor Donald, he gets so tired just working banker’s hours:

Xi Jinping to secretary: Take a note. Launch invasion of Guam at 2 AM US Eastern Time to secure the Second Island Chain.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 2, 2017 • 2:16:10am

Australia contributed 60,000 men to the Vietnam War with 521 killed in action and over 3,000 wounded.

Trump, meanwhile, was waging his own “personal Vietnam” with STDs.

Australian War Memorial

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Anymouse  Feb 2, 2017 • 2:20:20am

re: #291 Timothy Watson

Australia contributed 60,000 men to the Vietnam War with 521 killed in action and over 3,000 wounded.

Trump, meanwhile, was waging his own “personal Vietnam” with STDs.

Australian War Memorial

That statement by Mr. Trump more than anything makes me despise his narcissistic bone-spur infested self. Refer to my avatar.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 2, 2017 • 2:32:06am

re: #281 freetoken

Nothing has really surprised me… yet.

Yup, Trump Gallop. This is his strategy.

The real world, as we now see with Australia and Mexico, is that Trump is untenable to be President. You and me and most people here knew that, of course, but many Americans live in a fantasy land, it would appear from my Facebook feed.

It’s pretty clear that the Republican hierarchy still think they can benefit from Trump. I expect them to go along for awhile. At least until Trump wants to start messing with the appropriations in Congressional districts and to States. Then it will get interesting, as even the religious right in Congress like to protect their own slices of pie.

Trump’s appeal to many of his supporters was his tough-guy approach, saying things that no other politician dared say in blunt terms. They wanted a tough guy in the White House. But as you say, that’s a fantasyland desire, because international leaders need to be diplomatic and careful in their choice of words, lest they piss off the wrong people. Trump believes he can bully his way with everyone like a big shot tycoon (which he isn’t) and they will just fall in line like sheep. The reality is far from that. Heads of state expect to be treated with deference and courtesy, not like minions in a corporation. When that bully is an egotistical billionaire wannabe, their ire multiplies.

He’s managed not only to piss off our allies, but our rivals as well. His Muslim ban BS has embarrassed the USA on the world stage. Only Russia seems exempt, so far. When he manages to piss off Putin, you can expect Trump’s days as president will end rather quickly.

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freetoken  Feb 2, 2017 • 2:47:52am

This popped up yesterday in Nature, about some research reported last week:

Human-pig embryo made

Human stem cells can integrate into developing pig embryos, a finding that could lead to new ways of growing human organs and studying early human development.

[…]

The original paper:

Interspecies Chimerism with Mammalian Pluripotent Stem Cells

Interspecies chimeras… reminds me of Earth: Final Conflict.

Ought to send creationists for a loop, once they hear about it.

As Trump tries to keep power by mollifying his religious right marks, I wonder if such research will be possible in the US in the future. As it turns out, this particular research is from Japan.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 2, 2017 • 2:57:23am

So, I blogged about that “speech” Trump gave about Black History Month. I would have failed even my Chinese EFL students had one of them submitted something so bad.

wheatdogg.com

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 2, 2017 • 3:11:52am

re: #277 Anymouse

The problem is the design of our flag. (I have accidentally run it up the village flagpole upside down as well: Now I have marked the hoist of the flag with the word TOP to make sure I don’t do that again.)

Vexiollogists in the United States routinely rank Nebraska’s flag last for its design. There is yet another bill before the Unicameral right now to change our flag design.

As I suggested earlier: change the motto from “Equality before the law” to “Quality before Law”. It would fit the current administration better. And it would be so classy.

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Anymouse  Feb 2, 2017 • 3:18:03am

re: #296 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

As I suggested earlier: change the motto from “Equality before the law” to “Quality before Law”. It would fit the current administration better. And it would be so classy.

LOL. We need a quality flag for sure.

Instead of the Great Seal of Nebraska on a blue flag that looks like every other state’s flag that came into the nation at that time (state seals on blue flags), we could put something on it like Chimney Rock rising over the High Plains (or maybe an ICBM rising over the High Plains).

Or we could just adopt the University of Nebraska logo for the state flag, since more people fly the Huskers flag than the state flag anyway.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 2, 2017 • 3:29:16am

re: #297 Anymouse

LOL. We need a quality flag for sure.

Instead of the Great Seal of Nebraska on a blue flag that looks like every other state’s flag that came into the nation at that time (state seals on blue flags), we could put something on it like Chimney Rock rising over the High Plains (or maybe an ICBM rising over the High Plains).

Or we could just adopt the University of Nebraska logo for the state flag, since more people fly the Huskers flag than the state flag anyway.

Austin Lounge Lizards doing Cornhusker Refugee

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Myron Falwell  Feb 2, 2017 • 3:54:08am

The fucker awakens. And surprise, surprise, Bannon defends fucking Milo.

And California can go back and say, LOL we definitely won’t be giving YOU any revenue.

He’s pissing off everyone AT THE SAME TIME.

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Anymouse  Feb 2, 2017 • 3:54:53am

re: #298 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Austin Lounge Lizards doing Cornhusker Refugee

Thanks. Sounds like every bar around here (but they’re better performers).

They’re singing about the flatlands though, that would be the other side of the state.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 2, 2017 • 3:56:52am

re: #300 Anymouse

Thanks. Sounds like every bar around here (but they’re better performers).

They’re singing about the flatlands though, that would be the other side of the state.

What sort of dead animals does your family eat on a Sunday afternoon?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 2, 2017 • 3:58:26am

re: #299 Myron Falwell

The fucker awakens. And surprise, surprise, Bannon defends fucking Milo.

Even the BBC, whom I usually count on for fairly balanced coverage, did an article painting Milo as a victim and the Berkeley student body as hateful, intolerant radicals.

UC Berkeley cancels Milo Yiannopoulos talk as students protestLink

It does go on to give a lot of background information about Breitbart and Milo, but a cursory reading leaves one with the impression that the poor fellow is being victimized.

Berkeley College Republicans sponsored Mr Yiannopoulos’s visit.
Their spokesman Pieter Sittler said they didn’t agree with everything he said, but “he gives a voice to repressed conservative thought on American college campuses”.

Poor repressed white male conservative bullies…

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Anymouse  Feb 2, 2017 • 4:04:36am

re: #301 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

What sort of dead animals does your family eat on a Sunday afternoon?

Well that depends. We don’t eat a whole lot of meat primarily due to my marginal cholesterol levels.

That said, beef is usually on order here as it is inexpensive (relative to other states anyway). Chicken, occasionally pork, and we get a steady diet of Canada geese supplied by our ex-mayor. (We have an agreement: He likes hunting but doesn’t like cleaning geese and doesn’t want to hunt for the sake of hunting. He shoots ‘em, we clean ‘em, and split the take. He gets to sit in the cold North Platte River, which is not my idea of fun. He is also a widower, so a home-cooked meal from my wife is welcome.)

Sometimes we have fish, but fish is pretty expensive here since the ocean is a bit of a hike.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 4:07:22am

re: #299 Myron Falwell

The fucker awakens. And surprise, surprise, Bannon defends fucking Milo.

And California can go back and say, LOL we definitely won’t be giving YOU any revenue.

He’s pissing off everyone AT THE SAME TIME.

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Says the most hostile president we ever had to a free press.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 2, 2017 • 4:08:32am

re: #303 Anymouse

Well that depends. We don’t eat a whole lot of meat primarily due to my marginal cholesterol levels.

That said, beef is usually on order here as it is inexpensive (relative to other states anyway). Chicken, occasionally pork, and we get a steady diet of Canada geese supplied by our ex-mayor. (We have an agreement: He likes hunting but doesn’t like cleaning geese and doesn’t want to hunt for the sake of hunting. He shoots ‘em, we clean ‘em, and split the take. He gets to sit in the cold North Platte River, which is not my idea of fun. He is also a widower, so a home-cooked meal from my wife is welcome.)

Sometimes we have fish, but fish is pretty expensive here since the ocean is a bit of a hike.

Germany is big on pork, which I do not eat a lot of, and good fish is hard to come by in most places. So dead chicken is pretty much the default meat setting.

In a few weeks I will start my annual Lenten meat fast: I turn Good Catholic for six weeks before Easter and do not buy or bring home any meat (I am not strict or religious about it, I just avoid it to a great extent).

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 4:11:10am

Milo got what he wanted: to be painted as a victim of “intolerance.” I say though, let him speak, call him on his bluff and let him expose himself for the pathetic wanker he is but the UC students have every right to protest him too. I’m sorry but I’m not taking lectures on free speech from Trump or the right who constantly want to use religion as an excuse to deny someone freedom. And as for freedom, Trump should talk to his new higher education adviser, Falwell Jr, Liberty is far from a tolerant place too.

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MsJ  Feb 2, 2017 • 4:12:14am

re: #276 Targetpractice

I’m with Eric Boehlert on this, the media should get up and walk out, but they’ll instead roll with it because “access.”

They don’t need access. The “Trump Admin” leaks like a sieve. You get more truth from those leakers. Fuck access. To what, anyway? Lies and abuse? Nope.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 2, 2017 • 4:14:08am

I’m catching up on the news. It seems Trump also had some fightin’ words with Mexico’s president.

Story points to Business Insider, but quotes a Forbes reporter.

businessinsider.com

So the way to make America great is to badger and threaten everyone in sight. Who knew?

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Timothy Watson  Feb 2, 2017 • 4:15:45am

re: #308 wheat-dogg

I’m catching up on the news. It seems Trump also had some fightin’ words with Mexico’s president.

Story points to Business Insider, but quotes a Forbes reporter.

businessinsider.com

So the way to make America great is to badger and threaten everyone in sight. Who knew?

BEING UNPREDICTABLE IS A GOOD THING!1!!

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MsJ  Feb 2, 2017 • 4:16:16am

re: #285 Timothy Watson

Poor Donald, he gets so tired just working banker’s hours:

Can’t wait for that first 3:00 am call.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 2, 2017 • 4:16:33am

Meanwhile, I finally bought an HDMI cable so I can connect my tiny Windows tablet to a hotel room’s flat-panel monitor, and have better sound to boot.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 4:17:49am

re: #310 MsJ

Can’t wait for that first 3:00 am call.

But he’s got great STANtima. Just ask him.

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 2, 2017 • 4:18:04am

re: #44 mmmirele

Yeah, I’d like to kick George Grant in the ‘nads.

You’re kinder than I am.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 2, 2017 • 4:18:04am

re: #311 wheat-dogg

Meanwhile, I finally bought an HDMI cable so I can connect my tiny Windows tablet to a hotel room’s flat-panel monitor, and have better sound to boot.

I need to get a gadget like that for my TV so I can watch Netflix on the big screen ( do not have an apple TV compatible set)

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Anymouse  Feb 2, 2017 • 4:22:15am

re: #305 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Germany is big on pork, which I do not eat a lot of, and good fish is hard to come by in most places. So dead chicken is pretty much the default meat setting.

In a few weeks I will start my annual Lenten meat fast: I turn Good Catholic for six weeks before Easter and do not buy or bring home any meat (I am not strict or religious about it, I just avoid it to a great extent).

Here the primary churches are Roman Catholic. (There are numerous flavours of Protestant churches, but the Catholic Church has a much larger presence.) There is also one Greek Orthodox Church in Bridgeport (pop 1,100) but I am not sure how their calender works as compared to the Roman Catholic adoption of the Gregorian system.

As such, restaurants tend to offer Lenten meals on those Fridays of Lent, and grocery stores will pare back orders of meats as sales tend to drop a bit. The two local butchers (one in town, one way out in the middle of nowhere that also butchers game animals for a price) generally just lower their prices during Lent.

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 2, 2017 • 4:22:32am

re: #73 klys (maker of Silmarils)

“It was at the end of a long day & he was tired & fatigue was setting in.”
CNN on White House’s response to Trump’s hanging up on Aussie PM.

What is he? Five?

Oh wait. Narf! He is.

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wheat-dogg  Feb 2, 2017 • 4:24:28am

re: #314 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I need to get a gadget like that for my TV so I can watch Netflix on the big screen ( do not have an apple TV compatible set)

My tablet has a 7.5” diagonal 16:9 screen. Using a full-size screen makes a big difference.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 2, 2017 • 4:28:28am

re: #17 Backwoods_Sleuth

So if you know about history, you’re an “intellectual snob”? It’s scary how anti-intellectual Rightwingers have become. They revel in alternative facts and stupidity. Hence their support for a dunce like Trump.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 2, 2017 • 4:28:41am

re: #314 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I need to get a gadget like that for my TV so I can watch Netflix on the big screen ( do not have an apple TV compatible set)

You could probably get a cheap Blu-Ray player with a Netflix app.

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 2, 2017 • 4:31:21am
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Timothy Watson  Feb 2, 2017 • 4:31:47am

re: #318 Patricia Kayden

So if you know about history, you’re an “intellectual snob”? It’s scary how anti-intellectual Rightwingers have become. They revel in alternative facts and stupidity. Hence their support for a dunce like Trump.

We were talking yesterday about why Americans can’t get into engineering schools. Maybe because white people have an anti-intellectual attitude that mocks anyone who does well in school?

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Myron Falwell  Feb 2, 2017 • 4:33:18am

re: #308 wheat-dogg

So the way to make America great is to badger and threaten everyone in sight. Who knew?

Someone please never tell Trump that such a tactic is not working in any way.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 2, 2017 • 4:33:48am

re: #320 Romantic Heretic

Australian wildlife: Add size, murder

Someone ran the numbers, while the animals can be dangerous, they don’t kill that many people compared to the more mundane causes of death.

In reality, Australian animals are venomous — but they very rarely kill, according to research Welton and her colleagues recently conducted. Their report, to be published in an upcoming issue of Internal Medicine Journal, reviewed hospitalizations and deaths from venomous Australian animals between 2000 and 2013. Based on medical admission data, coroners’ findings and autopsy reports, the scientists determined that venomous bites and stings hospitalized more than 41,000 people over those 13 years — an admission rate of 199 people per 100,000 in the population. Venom killed 64 people during the same time period.

The results surprised even Welton. “I was expecting to see larger numbers,” she told The Post by phone early Thursday. “Just the number of people hospitalized, I thought, would be a lot larger.” By way of comparison, the researcher noted that there were 5,000 drownings and nearly 1,000 lethal burns in the same time period.

washingtonpost.com

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Myron Falwell  Feb 2, 2017 • 4:35:48am

re: #316 Romantic Heretic

What is he? Five?

Oh wait. Narf! He is.

HAHAHA! Trump and Bannon really are a real-life Pinky and the Brain! 😹

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fern01  Feb 2, 2017 • 4:35:49am

re: #70 Kragar

Trump declares war on Australia.

I live in Australia. It is difficult to believe that our bff are likely to be Japan & Germany over the next few years. That my father fought alongside US soldiers in WWII makes it even weirder to comprehend.

I would add, Australia is NOT to be commended for our treatment of people who have tried to reach the country outside of the “legal options”. Most of the latter take years.

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 2, 2017 • 4:36:34am

re: #27 GlutenFreeJesus

Wait. Trump decided on this raid… OVER DINNER?

Over dinner. On the toilet. On twitter. While watching Fox News.

This is how Trump makes important, life-impacting decisions. No biggie.

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Timothy Watson  Feb 2, 2017 • 4:37:42am

Legislation in the Virginia General Assembly would make it a criminal offense to name a police officer who is under an use of force investigation.
richmond.com

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Myron Falwell  Feb 2, 2017 • 4:38:30am
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Alyosha  Feb 2, 2017 • 4:44:45am

re: #325 fern01

*waves*

Just saw this. Another Minority Report clip, Wajahat Ali runs a train of unbroken righteousness through what might otherwise be a lackadaisical piece on Trump.

Stick with it.
Even when you think you’re doing nothing, platforms like Twitter are important. It drove the Trump train, it can derail it.

Never give up.

‘President Bannon’s Poodle’: ‘NYT’ Contributor Wajahat Ali Trolls Trump on CNN

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Myron Falwell  Feb 2, 2017 • 4:50:12am

Holy Reimaged 1960 Cartoon Characters Batman!

(the message couldn’t be any more timely tho)

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 2, 2017 • 4:58:11am

re: #109 JasonA

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We can use those blank pages to fill in all of Trump’s atrocities during the next 4 years. We may run out of pages.

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Alyosha  Feb 2, 2017 • 4:59:55am

re: #329 Alyosha

Seriously. Listen to that shit.

People worry about Muslims indocrinating their kids.

‘… they will out-Tweet them, Inshallah, they will forgive them.’

Gimme that Ali family love!

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MsJ  Feb 2, 2017 • 5:03:08am

I don’t know about you but this makes me feel better. ///////

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Myron Falwell  Feb 2, 2017 • 5:05:12am

So both Punxstuawney Phil and Buckeye Chuck saw their shadows, which I guess means that we have six more weeks of the Trump Regime.

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Targetpractice  Feb 2, 2017 • 5:05:37am

re: #333 MsJ

I don’t know about you but this makes me feel better. ///////

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Thank Zod we avoided electing that warmonger Hillary, eh folks?

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Alyosha  Feb 2, 2017 • 5:05:54am

There’s a march against racism going on tomorrow in the city. I can’t be there and that makes me sad. But there’ll be marches every day somewhere.
If you can’t march, speak.
If you can’t speak, love.
If you can’t love then there’s nothing I can do for you.

I stand with you.

Don’t give up.

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Anymouse  Feb 2, 2017 • 5:06:31am

re: #321 Timothy Watson

We were talking yesterday about why Americans can’t get into engineering schools. Maybe because white people have an anti-intellectual attitude that mocks anyone who does well in school?

The USA at least has a strain of anti-intellectualism that goes back to the days of the colonies. In that strain, the combination of conservative authoritarianism combined with religious faith creates the space for anti-intellectualism.

It’s opposite is “facts have a liberal bias.”

Conservative orthodoxy can be summed up (crudely) as “keeping things the way they are” or nostalgia for the past. As such, when some new fact is learned, if it cannot be incorporated into that orthodoxy, it is rejected.

Religious orthodoxy is the same. It does not matter how much evidence piles up for evolution by natural selection, since many (but not all) faiths cannot pretzel-twist what evolution means (no god required), they reject it out of hand. Consider the Scopes Monkey Trial, primarily based on religious faith written into Tennessee law.

The two orthodoxies make affinity fraud an easy task for someone who insinuates themselves into such groups (libertarians are notorious for being scammed). Affinity fraud depends on trust between the fraudster and the target.

Once that trust is achieved, it becomes easy to scam the target - the target is predisposed to reject any new information (I am gullible) in favour of orthodoxy (members of my group are moral and would never scam me). Bernie Madoff and prosperity gospel pastors are notorious for this, as is Bitcoin.

Because facts cannot penetrate the orthodoxy of whatever belief the person holds, they become convinced that “others” are out to “get” them. It leads to everything from science-denial to outright tinfoil haberdashery.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 2, 2017 • 5:07:21am

re: #333 MsJ

I don’t know about you but this makes me feel better. ///////

Peter Theil gets to bring out his lawnchair in his New Zealand compound and LOL at the nuclear warheads flying above his head.

half //

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Patricia Kayden  Feb 2, 2017 • 5:09:47am

re: #149 JasonA

Are people really supposed to be insulted over being called “Antifas?”

I mean, I kinda take pride in being anti-fascist. Am I missing something?

No different from Rightwingers using SJW as an insult. I still don’t understand why it’s wrong to be a social justice warrior. That sounds like a good thing in my book.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 2, 2017 • 5:11:30am

Someone upthread asked what is pejorative about being called ‘antifas’. Suggest a more than cursory study of their history and that of other black bloc organizations. They are at least destructive nutcases poisoning every action they infiltrate. On occasion (e.g. Genoa) they turned out to be police provocateurs who got people killed. The enemy of your enemy might be more dangerous than your enemy.

Oh. I forgot…Fuck them.

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MsJ  Feb 2, 2017 • 5:13:50am

re: #339 Patricia Kayden

No different from Rightwingers using SJW as an insult. I still don’t understand why it’s wrong to be a social justice warrior. That sounds like a good thing in my book.

It is a good thing. Fuck a bunch of sociopaths.

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Alyosha  Feb 2, 2017 • 5:14:27am

re: #340 Decatur Deb

Someone upthread asked what is pejorative about being called ‘antifas’. Suggest a more than cursory study of their history and that of other black bloc organizations. They are at least destructive nutcases poisoning every action they infiltrate. On occasion (e.g. Genoa) they turned out to be police provocateurs who got people killed. The enemy of your enemy might be more dangerous than your enemy.

Oh. I forgot…Fuck them.

Wavering. Hoping that, to corporatise something that will resist rebranding… might.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 2, 2017 • 5:18:16am
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Decatur Deb  Feb 2, 2017 • 5:20:12am

Here’s a hint: If you are out with a lot of good like-minded citizens exercising your right to peacefully assemble and present grievances, and some asshole magically produces a Molotov cocktail, you are being fucked from behind.

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fern01  Feb 2, 2017 • 5:21:48am

re: #329 Alyosha

*waves*

Just saw this. Another Minority Report clip, Wajahat Ali runs a train of unbroken righteousness through what might otherwise be a lackadaisical piece on Trump.

Stick with it.
Even when you think you’re doing nothing, platforms like Twitter are important. It drove the Trump train, it can derail it.

Never give up.

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The last couple of days the Oz media seems to be waking up to what is happening - Turnbull has really tried to hide it. I laughed till I cried when he said initially that Trump would uphold the deal. “Tell him he’s dreaming”

One positive thing that may come out of this whole ghastly happening - Australians facing what they are doing in regard to refugees. We expect other countries to take in people we are not prepared to take ourselves. I am so hoping the whole “Trump experience” will knock Hanson & her ilk of their perches and maybe start our trek back to looking after those in need.

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Alyosha  Feb 2, 2017 • 5:25:49am

re: #345 fern01

The last couple of days the Oz media seems to be waking up to what is happening - Turnbull has really tried to hide it. I laughed till I cried when he said initially that Trump would uphold the deal. “Tell him he’s dreaming”

One positive thing that may come out of this whole ghastly happening - Australians facing what they are doing in regard to refugees. We expect other countries to take in people we are not prepared to take ourselves. I am so hoping the whole “Trump experience” will knock Hanson & her ilk of their perches and maybe start our trek back to looking after those in need.

I upding with the leisure of a white man who has finally tired of winning.

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Chrysicat  Feb 2, 2017 • 5:30:36am

I know, I know. I’m about a day behind, but still:

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 2, 2017 • 5:31:34am

So overnight while I was sleeping this shitshow has deepened into a shit ocean.

It’s a good thing I have a bunch of work to keep me occupied for the next couple of hours but maybe I should get into the bathyscaphe now instead of later?

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b.d.  Feb 2, 2017 • 5:38:47am

Good morning Lizards,

Another day that I wake up knowing, for certain, that I am a happier man than the billionaire POTUS ever will be.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 2, 2017 • 5:39:19am

re: #349 b.d.

Good morning Lizards,

Another day that I wake up knowing, for certain, that I am a happier man than the billionaire POTUS ever will be.

Good hair, huh?

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Feb 2, 2017 • 5:39:39am

Regarding Berkeley, if anyone has a way to find the original information, it would be much appreciated. The news is not what it seems.

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jeffreyw  Feb 2, 2017 • 5:41:19am

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Good morning!

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b.d.  Feb 2, 2017 • 5:42:30am

re: #350 Decatur Deb

Good hair, huh?

The few hairs that decided to stick around are good and not a cause of world wide snickering.

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Alyosha  Feb 2, 2017 • 5:46:32am

re: #352 jeffreyw

Weird omelet, but I’m tired.

I’ll eat it later.

Night, lizards.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 2, 2017 • 5:47:19am

The merger of CBS Radio with Entercom is certainly damn good for CBS. Les Moonves had publicly wanted to divest himself of the radio division (and under eternal speculation that CBS and Viacom could remerge due to the Redstone family suing each other for control of National Amusements, the holding company for both conglomerates).

It might have happened with Hillary, but you and I know that this merger will be met with a solid rubber stamp.

So when Les said that non-critical coverage of Trump wasn’t good for America, but damn good for CBS… well, mission accomplished.

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Chrysicat  Feb 2, 2017 • 5:48:04am

re: #352 jeffreyw

Wow! Your tux cat looks almost like our Charlie, although ours has a Chaplinstache!

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Feb 2, 2017 • 5:48:08am

re: #351 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Regarding Berkeley, if anyone has a way to find the original information, it would be much appreciated. The news is not what it seems.

/blockquote>

I simply don’t have the time due to work today and I’m betting there are Lizards out there who can suss out the truth.

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b.d.  Feb 2, 2017 • 5:48:58am

Berkeley was a false flag, I recognized some of those “hooligans” as being the same paid crisis actors from previous staged antics.

//
(if those guys can do it then so can i)

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:00:59am

re: #18 Kragar

And watch Trump and his sycophants claim this too is Obama’s fault.

Oh wait.

Obama vetoed raid due to bad intel. Trump went for it because he had to show he’s a tough guy - using our best and brightest - the sharpest tip of the spear - to do it, and screwed them because they didn’t have good intel, the bad guys knew we were coming, and we got out gunned to the point where we had to call in airstrikes to save our guys on the ground. So, sure some bad guys were killed, but the purpose of the raid was to gather intel so we could get even more bad guys and disrupt terror networks in Yemen.

Oh, and Trump’s trying to push this kind of decision down below his level, because it’s too much work to make sure that there’s enough planning, preparation, and logistics for his teeny tiny hands to wrap themselves around.

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mmmirele  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:01:20am

re: #299 Myron Falwell

The fucker awakens. And surprise, surprise, Bannon defends fucking Milo.

And California can go back and say, LOL we definitely won’t be giving YOU any revenue.

He’s pissing off everyone AT THE SAME TIME.

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I’d penciled in a possible protest at Arizona State University when the notorious campus preacher Jed Smock shows up later this month. Normally, I wouldn’t care, but Smock made a point of being obnoxiously for Trump in the fall, and has been gloating about it and how Trump is “God’s man” and all that. Well, Smock also harasses students and tells them they’re going to hell for sleeping around, etc., which doesn’t exactly go well with his support of the thrice-married adulterer. I just thought I’d show up with a big ole sign saying “JED’S A HYPOCRITE.” I wonder if conservatives will support the rights of a fat, middle-aged woman on a university campus?

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:04:49am

Trump’s busy threatening the place Berkeley with 1A violations over a riot started by people who have yet to be identified. Trump’s assuming that they’re anti-Milo liberals, but the way things are going these days, it’d be just as likely that James O’Keefe hired a bunch of goons to disrupt things as proof that the liberals in Berkeley are bad.

So, I’ll wait to see what the evidence actually turns up about who did what in Berkeley last night.

I don’t need to wait to see that once again Trump shows his fascist flair for the dramatic and complete and utter disdain for the 1A. He showed it all through the campaign, and he again shows that he’s ready to violate the Constitution at a moment’s notice because that’s what fascists like him do.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:06:47am

re: #361 lawhawk

Trump’s busy threatening the place Berkeley with 1A violations over a riot started by people who have yet to be identified. Trump’s assuming that they’re anti-Milo liberals, but the way things are going these days, it’d be just as likely that James O’Keefe hired a bunch of goons to disrupt things as proof that the liberals in Berkeley are bad..

My guess is they are black-bloc anarchists who always show up for a good arson garbage fire.

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:08:10am

Oh, and some folks are now saying that Trump/Bannon’s actions are proof that he finally needs to be removed from office.

Sorry, the time was months ago when people were all EMAIL! and thinking that there was no difference between Trump and Clinton and that they could throw away their vote for a 3d party candidate, because there’d be no difference in policies or procedures, or that life would go on and they’d be insulated from the consequences.

Right.

You cannot count on impeachment here. The GOP would need a massive body count for that to happen - and many of them would be swept up for being complicit. No, the path is via the 25th Amendment at the moment, and even there, the GOP wont act because they’ve been fine with all of this. They’ve gained the power they crave. They stole a supreme court seat and have suffered no consequences for that. They’ll go along with what Bannon and Trump are doing, because they think they’ll be fine.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:13:13am

re: #337 Anymouse

The USA at least has a strain of anti-intellectualism that goes back to the days of the colonies. In that strain, the combination of conservative authoritarianism combined with religious faith creates the space for anti-intellectualism.

I always saw it as cultural and intellectual inferiority complex towards Europe: but for that, we promoted the myth that we were morally superior to those decadent, effete Europeans.

I have observed a similar attitude among Russian nationalists.

And that strain of virulent anti-intellectualism has now developed into a proper plague on our nation and all three branches of government.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:13:41am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:15:16am

First the WH liars denied that Trump threatened Mexico, now they say he was just “joking”

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:18:46am

re: #366 The Vicious Babushka

First the WH liars denied that Trump threatened Mexico, now they say he was just “joking”

Take him (un)seriously but not literally.

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:18:53am

Want to pick stocks and make millions?

Get on TV at 5 AM, rant about a company, and then watch Trump go on a Twitter tear at 8.

It’s a guarantee that stock prices will follow Trump’s tweets.

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lizardofid  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:19:12am

re: #344 Decatur Deb

Here’s a hint: If you are out with a lot of good like-minded citizens exercising your right to peacefully assemble and present grievances, and some asshole magically produces a Molotov cocktail, you are being fucked from behind.

The long game is endorphin deficient.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:20:32am

re: #359 lawhawk

And watch Trump and his sycophants claim this too is Obama’s fault.

Oh wait.

Obama vetoed raid due to bad intel. Trump went for it because he had to show he’s a tough guy - using our best and brightest - the sharpest tip of the spear - to do it, and screwed them because they didn’t have good intel, the bad guys knew we were coming, and we got out gunned to the point where we had to call in airstrikes to save our guys on the ground. So, sure some bad guys were killed, but the purpose of the raid was to gather intel so we could get even more bad guys and disrupt terror networks in Yemen.

Oh, and Trump’s trying to push this kind of decision down below his level, because it’s too much work to make sure that there’s enough planning, preparation, and logistics for his teeny tiny hands to wrap themselves around.

“The raid was a success. We killed AlQ. Period.”

/

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stpaulbear  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:20:43am

Just going to post this and run. MN Public Radio’s rock music station, 89.3 The Current, had an interview with Al Franken this morning which is worth a listen. He talked about how the hearings are going and suggested ways that we should become involved. It’s worth a listen. Can’t leave a link right now.

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Citizen K  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:23:21am

EDIT: I see #365 The Vicious Babushka beat me to it.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:24:32am

re: #308 wheat-dogg

I’m catching up on the news. It seems Trump also had some fightin’ words with Mexico’s president.

Story points to Business Insider, but quotes a Forbes reporter.

businessinsider.com

So the way to make America great is to badger and threaten everyone in sight. Who knew?

I think this is actually for his Base. They want him to badger and threaten everyone in sight, especially Mexico.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:26:20am

re: #315 Anymouse

In Nebraska? Hmm, I figured that for Protestant country.

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b.d.  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:28:31am

CNN Breaking News Banner:

Trump asks to pray for Schwarzenegger’s ‘Apprentice’ ratings at National Prayer Breakfast…

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Citizen K  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:29:51am

re: #339 Patricia Kayden

No different from Rightwingers using SJW as an insult. I still don’t understand why it’s wrong to be a social justice warrior. That sounds like a good thing in my book.

If I remember correctly, “Social Justice Warrior” was originally coined to mock keyboard warriors of the left, a.k.a. our version of the Chairborne Reaction Team, as it were. People who superficially took up causes but didn’t actually fight for them. As it tends to do, the internet latched hold of the label and appropriated it, and reappropriated it to mock anyone who dare tries to fight for anything empathetic, because being empathetic is the new greatest fascism in the world now.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:32:12am

re: #375 b.d.

CNN Breaking News Banner:

Trump asks to pray for Schwarzenegger’s ‘Apprentice’ ratings at National Prayer Breakfast…

Nah. Can’t believe he’d go that far at a prayer breakfast.

Oh wait….

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:34:52am

Watch A Lava ‘Fire Hose’ Stream Into Pacific Ocean

Spectacular footage of Kiluea volcano erupting. Apparently a lava delta had collapsed and exposed a lava tube so the lava is flowing freely into the ocean, where it’s cooling and causing the explosive ejection of rocks and steam from where the lava is now pooling.

Too Close To The Lava Fire Hose (Jan. 31, 2017)

This second video is notable, not only because it shows size and scope of the eruption, but because there’s a couple of people who managed to get dangerously close to the erupting lava.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:35:34am

re: #351 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

Regarding Berkeley, if anyone has a way to find the original information, it would be much appreciated. The news is not what it seems.

Here is the ongoing problem we face and the reason we are in the situation we are in: chaos, misinformation and violence all favor the DT cause. And misinformation, chaos and violence are much easier to generate than truth, order and peace.

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Citizen K  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:36:03am
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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:36:11am
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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:37:52am

Hear Something Say Something.
At a local High School (Troy High School) 2 teen were planning an attack “bigger than Columbine” but were overheard, and a sneak picture taken. The students plot has been stopped cold. Excellent work people.

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b.d.  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:39:25am

re: #377 Sir John Barron

Nah. Can’t believe he’d go that far at a prayer breakfast.

Oh wait….

Bringing class back to the White House!!

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lizardofid  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:39:53am

re: #379 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Here is the ongoing problem we face and the reason we are in the situation we are in: chaos, misinformation and violence all favor the DT cause. And misinformation, chaos and violence are much easier to generate than truth, order and peace.

“A lie’s halfway round the world before the truth gets it’s shoes on”

~somebody

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:41:02am

re: #360 mmmirele

I’d penciled in a possible protest at Arizona State University when the notorious campus preacher Jed Smock shows up later this month. Normally, I wouldn’t care, but Smock made a point of being obnoxiously for Trump in the fall, and has been gloating about it and how Trump is “God’s man” and all that. Well, Smock also harasses students and tells them they’re going to hell for sleeping around, etc., which doesn’t exactly go well with his support of the thrice-married adulterer. I just thought I’d show up with a big ole sign saying “JED’S A HYPOCRITE.” I wonder if conservatives will support the rights of a fat, middle-aged woman on a university campus?

OMG, I remember Reverend Jed from my undergrad days at ASU back in 1978-81.

He is one fucked up character. Seems that he started out in the 60’s as a university counselor and used to advise naive & uptight young undergrads to loosen up, experiment with drugs and sex and alternative religions, and has spent past decades trying to atone for what he once did…and proably really enjoyed.

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:41:54am

I was in theater groups in college and high school. I was in Hillel.

Gorsuch founded a fascists forever group.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:41:57am
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Citizen K  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:43:00am

re: #386 lawhawk

I was in theater groups in college and high school. I was in Hillel.

Gorsuch founded a fascists forever group.

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I caution about using the Daily Mail as a source for anything, no matter how juicy it seems. Any other outlets that’ve been able to corroborate?

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Timothy Watson  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:43:02am

re: #386 lawhawk

I was in theater groups in college and high school. I was in Hillel.

Gorsuch founded a fascists forever group.

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It is The Daily Fail, so I would take everything with a grain of salt.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:43:10am

re: #367 Belafon

Take him (un)seriously but not literally.

To paraphrase Kellyanne:

Listen to his heart, not what seeps out of his pie hole…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:44:25am

re: #373 Sir John Barron

I think this is actually for his Base. They want him to badger and threaten everyone in sight, especially Mexico.

Badger? We don’t need to stinkin’ badger!

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:44:57am

re: #391 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Badger? We don’t need to stinkin’ badger!

Wolverines!!!

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:46:12am

Trump speaking about admitting people into our country who fully embrace our values of religious and personal liberty.

All while Trump violates the core tenet by imposing Muslim bans and attacking the 1A at every opportunity.

Irony is dead.

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jeffreyw  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:46:29am

re: #356 Chrysicat

Wow! Your tux cat looks almost like our Charlie, although ours has a Chaplinstache!

Ollie has a half-stache.

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Someone dumped him near here and he migrated himself towards the sound of a can opener.

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Ginger Boy was another such.

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darthstar  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:47:36am

re: #386 lawhawk

I was in theater groups in college and high school. I was in Hillel.

Gorsuch founded a fascists forever group.

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That was prep school antics…I had posted a pic from his college yearbook yesterday where he quotes Kissinger, “The illegal we do immediately, the unconstitutional takes a little longer.” I’m hoping he’s grown out of his rebel ways by now.

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Citizen K  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:47:47am

re: #393 lawhawk

Trump speaking about admitting people into our country who fully embrace our values of religious and personal liberty.

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All while Trump violates the core tenet by imposing Muslim bans and attacking the 1A at every opportunity.

Irony is dead.

Of course. When he says ‘embrace our values of religious and personal liberty’ he means only THEIR religious liberty, not anyone else’s. And we already know what they think about ‘personal liberty;.

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:47:53am

re: #381 lawhawk

I don’t know how that law reads. If we connect this dot with the SEAL Team 6 recent scandal of conduct unbecoming…Maybe war crimes. It’s damn chilling. Is that flag gonna fly over Federals going to the Chicago gang areas? Or at the airport to thwart another TRO?

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:48:01am

re: #386 lawhawk

I was in theater groups in college and high school. I was in Hillel.

Gorsuch founded a fascists forever group.

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I will wait till that is debunked/confirmed

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MsJ  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:48:07am
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freetoken  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:49:48am

re: #398 The Vicious Babushka

Doubly true for the DailyFail.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:49:57am

The next POTUS (assuming Orange Fuckstick doesn’t declare himself PRESIDENT FOR LIFE G-D FORBID) will have to go on a Worldwide Apology Tour

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darthstar  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:50:19am

re: #389 Timothy Watson

It is The Daily Fail, so I would take everything with a grain of salt.

Our skepticism of media organizations is going to bite us on the ass one day. CNN=fake news. Daily Fail. Faux News - okay…that last one’s a tossup.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:50:23am

re: #386 lawhawk

I was in theater groups in college and high school. I was in Hillel.

Gorsuch founded a fascists forever group.

Talking point preps:

He was forced to do so because of the excesses of evil liberalism.

He was just a good old boy havin’ a bit o’ fun.

We all have our youthful excesses.

Get over it, snowflakes!!!

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freetoken  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:50:35am

But if it is true, it would just be one more strange … coincidence.

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darthstar  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:53:40am

I know, I know…another photograph of an old yearbook…paper never refused ink…someone call Snopes.

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:53:48am

The US will go to war with China over the South China Sea dispute in next 5-10 years.

These comments by Bannon were made last March, but they resurfaced Thursday at a time when Washington and Beijing’s relations have soured after Trump questioned the “One China” policy and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said China should be barred from islands in the contested region.

“We’re going to war in the South China Sea in five to 10 years, aren’t we? There’s no doubt about that. They’re taking their sandbars and making basically stationary aircraft carriers and putting missiles on those. They come here to the United States in front of our face — and you understand how important face is — and say it’s an ancient territorial sea,” Bannon said on a radio show hosted for Breitbart in March 2016.

China has been accused of showing its might by laying claims to almost all of South China Sea, from where about $5 trillion worth of maritime trade passes every year. Beijing also has been reportedly building runways and ports on islands in the contested waters to further its claim over the region. However, the country has consistently defended its actions, saying it does not intend to start a conflict and that its operations will actually add to the safety of the region.

This isn’t some historian. It’s Bannon who has Trump’s ear. And he’s more likely to take actions that will make that prediction reality than any of us can possibly imagine.

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Citizen K  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:55:19am

re: #402 darthstar

Our skepticism of media organizations is going to bite us on the ass one day. CNN=fake news. Daily Fail. Faux News - okay…that last one’s a tossup.

The difference is that the Daily Mail has been absolutely notorious in UK the same way Fox is amongst us for years. Sensationalism and shoddy, slanted reporting galore. It’s not a new thing to take anything Daily Mail says with a grain of salt. The only real surprise is that it’s remained out of Murdoch’s banner somehow.

EDIT: Related - Youtube Video

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:56:06am

re: #406 lawhawk

It’ll have to be in the next four years.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:56:29am

re: #405 darthstar

I know, I know…another photograph of an old yearbook…paper never refused ink…someone call Snopes.

Yeah, lots of stuff floating around. Not sure I believe this either. Somebody in my TL used a David Duke quote and attributed it to DT’s nominee.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:56:30am

re: #406 lawhawk

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The US will go to war with China over the South China Sea dispute in next 5-10 years.

This isn’t some historian. It’s Bannon who has Trump’s ear. And he’s more likely to take actions that will make that prediction reality than any of us can possibly imagine.

War with China would be like nothing this country has ever seen before.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:57:00am

re: #410 HappyWarrior

War with China would be like nothing this country has ever seen before.

They would greet us as lib——

/

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:57:34am

re: #409 Sir John Barron

Yeah, lots of stuff floating around. Not sure I believe this either. Somebody in my TL used a David Duke quote and attributed it to DT’s nominee.

Wish people wouldn’t do that. Gorsuch is a bad pick but he’s not David Duke.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:58:33am

re: #411 Sir John Barron

They would greet us as lib——

/

Goddamn and to think of all the idiots who think Trump was more “dovish” than HRC.

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darthstar  Feb 2, 2017 • 6:59:29am

re: #406 lawhawk

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The US will go to war with China over the South China Sea dispute in next 5-10 years.

This isn’t some historian. It’s Bannon who has Trump’s ear. And he’s more likely to take actions that will make that prediction reality than any of us can possibly imagine.

Go to war with China and watch troops perish by the thousands. Never mind the economy going down faster than you can make a run on the bank.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:00:10am

re: #393 lawhawk

Pres. Trump: We’ll develop a system to ensure people “admitted into our country fully embrace our values of religious and personal liberty.”

Not sure how something like this could possibly be enforced or ensured or how it would even be measured, beyond verifying the person is not affiliated with terrorist groups.

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Teukka  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:00:44am

re: #414 darthstar

Go to war with China and watch troops perish by the thousands. Never mind the economy going down faster than you can make a run on the bank.

Not to mention that China is a nuclear power with a significant amount of troops, which means this could escalate to a nuclear exchange.

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John Hughes  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:01:18am

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Donald Trump seems to believe it is “illegal” to flee war and dictatorship.

Interesting.

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:01:58am

re: #415 Sir John Barron

Not sure how something like this could possibly be enforced or ensured or how it would even be measured, beyond verifying the person is not affiliated with terrorist groups.

Can’t measure it? Can’t identify it?

You can’t come in.

Easy peazy.

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darthstar  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:01:59am

re: #409 Sir John Barron

Yeah, lots of stuff floating around. Not sure I believe this either. Somebody in my TL used a David Duke quote and attributed it to DT’s nominee.

The quote I posted was from someone who saw it first hand…and whom I know well and trust.

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Citizen K  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:02:45am

re: #417 John Hughes

Donald Trump seems to believe it is “illegal” to flee war and dictatorship.

Interesting.

I’m pretty sure the administration’s line is the same as Lahren’s: If you’re not fighting, you’re cowards, therefore you don’t deserve to escape.

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:02:51am

re: #416 Teukka

Not to mention that China is a nuclear power with a significant amount of troops, which means this could escalate to a nuclear exchange.

China wouldn’t have to launch any nukes. Just wait us out, occasionally sinking our ships. We have a whole lot of water to cross just to engage them.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:03:35am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:04:47am

re: #410 HappyWarrior

War with China would be like nothing this country has ever seen before.

Keep in mind that China, as a result of its one-child policy and selective female infanticide, has a surplus of tens of millions of unmarriageable males.

They could afford to lose lots of these fellows in a war, even against minimal gain, and it would still favor their demographics.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:05:45am

re: #419 darthstar

The quote I posted was from someone who saw it first hand…and whom I know well and trust.

He was just joking can’t you libtard snowflakes take a joke!???!!?!?

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:05:57am

And imagine how much it benefits the Chinese to significantly weaken our Navy.

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John Hughes  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:08:14am

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Of course it must be said that Australia deserves insults over this scummy deal — it is disgusting that Australia is refusing to allow these refugees entry into Australia, instead fobbing them off on an third country for the spurious reason that the traveled to Australia in boats instead of flying.

Arguably Obama was rather too nice to the Australians — they should clean up their own mess. However a solution is needed, and the needs of the refugees should come first.

Never let Australians kid you into thinking they’re “nice”. They’ve been voting for racist scumbags for years.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:08:35am

re: #414 darthstar

Go to war with China and watch troops perish by the thousands. Never mind the economy going down faster than you can make a run on the bank.

China has at least as valid a claim to those sandbars as I do to this 1/4 acre of Chief Eufaula’s turf.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:09:08am

And they haven’t even polled on threatening to invade Mexico, or berating the Australian PM…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:09:33am

re: #423 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Keep in mind that China, as a result of its one-child policy and selective female infanticide, has a surplus of tens of millions of unmarriageable mails. They could afford to lose these fellows in a war, even against minimal gain, and it would still favor their demographics.

Yep.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:09:49am

re: #426 John Hughes

Of course it must be said that Australia deserves insults over this scummy deal — it is disgusting that Australia is refusing to allow these refugees entry into Australia, instead fobbing them off on an third country for the spurious reason that the traveled to Australia in boats instead of flying.

Arguably Obama was rather too nice to the Australians — they should clean up their own mess. However a solution is needed, and the needs of the refugees should come first.

Never let Australians kid you into thinking they’re “nice”. They’ve been voting for racist scumbags for years.

Pretty sure the nice ones are Canadians, unless I’ve conflated my colonials again.

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freetoken  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:11:03am

re: #426 John Hughes

Indeed, xenophobia seems to be on the rise in Australia, with the election of Pauline Hanson and her One Nation party.

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Bubblehead II  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:11:21am
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FormerDirtDart  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:11:38am

Ouch, that’s got to cause some tiny little orange fists to ball up…

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Sir John Barron  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:11:40am

re: #428 FormerDirtDart

And they haven’t even polled on threatening to invade Mexico, or berating the Australian PM…

So he’s at 52% favorable?

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:12:15am

From Sarah Proud and Tall at Balloon Juice:

Malcolm Turnbull may be a bit of a cock, but he’s going to come out of this looking quite good domestically, if only from sheer relief he isn’t Donald Fucking Trump. Standing up to a rich dickhead gets you a fair bit of kudos down here (even if you’re a rich dickhead with a sideline in migrant scaremongering yourself). Malcolm might be a folk hero in the line of Ned Kelly and Breaker Morant come morning.

Trump is now gainsaying his own private commitments, via Twitter. This is an extraordinary situation and one that is almost impossible to manage. American prestige is on the line.

World leaders be warned: Trump’s conversations are not private and his word, unreliable.

Australians take their relationship, and their long history of mateship, with America very seriously. This won’t damage that greatly long term, but I don’t think Lord Dampnut (h/t Anymouse at LGF) will be getting an invitation for a Presidential* tour of Australia any time soon.

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freetoken  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:12:32am

re: #432 Bubblehead II

Got a chuckle out of me.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:13:00am

re: #430 Decatur Deb

Pretty sure the nice ones are Canadians, unless I’ve conflated my colonials again.

Checks hand with current and former British commonwealth info, Canadians- nice, Aussies- fun to drink with, and Welsh- Do not ever call them English,

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:14:01am

re: #434 Sir John Barron

So he’s at 52% favorable?

No, unfavorable. They didn’t put the numbers up consistently, but he went from being 1 point favorable, to 9 points unfavorable.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:15:44am

re: #438 Belafon

No, unfavorable. They didn’t put the numbers up consistently, but he went from being 1 point favorable, to 9 points unfavorable.

Thanks. It actually wouldn’t surprise me if his favorable ratings went up some. The sheer fact of his being president as opposed to just a candidate is likely to cause some people to judge him favorable so long as the country doesn’t completely literally fall to pieces.

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MsJ  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:17:09am

re: #432 Bubblehead II

And people are saying they’d switch from D to R to vote for him. Like voting for fucking celebrities hasn’t shown to be a fucking disaster.

We’re done. There’s no coming back from this level of stupidity. If there is even something to come back to.

Shoot me in the head.

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Chrysicat  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:17:50am

re: #411 Sir John Barron

No, but at this point those of us outside of whatever boundaries the Republic of California gets allowed, might do so for them!

And I’m afraid I’m no longer joking.

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weave  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:17:58am
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Sir John Barron  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:19:10am

re: #442 weave

Remember how Drudge used to obsess over Presidential approval numbers?

Irrelevant! Fake polls!

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Lupin  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:19:17am

What’s up with the botched up Yemen raid?

Here (in France) we’re seeing photos of a cute 8-year (?) old girl allegedly having been gunned down by one of your soldiers, plus allegations of other civilians (non-terrorists) also having been down in cold blood. It looks like My Lai.

sample article in French

Here you seem mostly to talk about a dead SEAL.

What’s going on?

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Bubblehead II  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:20:40am

re: #440 MsJ

And people are saying they’d switch from D to R to vote for him. Like voting for fucking celebrities hasn’t shown to be a fucking disaster.

We’re done. There’s no coming back from this level of stupidity. If there is even something to come back to.

Shoot me in the head.

Well at least Arnold has some experience with Governing unlike the pumpkin pinochet.

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ObserverArt  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:20:44am

re: #349 b.d.

Good morning Lizards,

Another day that I wake up knowing, for certain, that I am a happier man than the billionaire POTUS ever will be.

Thanks.

I love a good shot of positive thinking in the morning.

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unproven innocence  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:20:57am

re: #393 lawhawk

Trump speaking about admitting people into our country who fully embrace our values of religious and personal liberty.

All while Trump violates the core tenet by imposing Muslim bans and attacking the 1A at every opportunity.

Irony is dead.

But doublethink is getting a shot in the arm.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:22:12am

re: #422 Charles Johnson

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He doesn’t have a sense of humor.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:22:31am

re: #444 Lupin

What’s up with the botched up Yemen raid?

Here (in France) we’re seeing photos of a cute 8-year (?) old girl allegedly having been gunned down by one of your soldiers, plus allegations of other civilians (non-terrorists) also having been down in cold blood. It looks like My Lai.

sample article in French

Here you seem mostly to talk about a dead SEAL.

What’s going on?

Because dead little girls are far more comon than dead SEALs.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:22:48am

re: #439 Sir John Barron

Thanks. It actually wouldn’t surprise me if his favorable ratings went up some. The sheer fact of his being president as opposed to just a candidate is likely to cause some people to judge him favorable so long as the country doesn’t completely literally fall to pieces.

In order for that to happen, he would have to sit down and not move or do anything for days or weeks at a time.

That’s his inherent flaw. Anything and everything he does is meant to antagonize. Even supposedly non-inflammatory events like the inauguration become a (tiny) male appendage waving contest for Trump.

It’s at the likelihood that his ratings will forever remain subterranean. But with the GOP rank-and-file unable to pull their heads out of their Dominionist agenda imposing asses, it will remain that way until he’s forced out… democratically or…

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Chrysicat  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:23:52am

re: #427 Decatur Deb

No, they really don’t.

They’re doing it to turn the entire SCS, outside Vietnam’s and the Philippines’ 20-mile limit, into Chinese internal waters.

And that’s even more asinine than Canada trying the same thing with the Northwest passage.

There really are no good guys between the Confederate States of America, the Red Chinese, and Putinist Russia.

Just the EU and parts of the non-American Anglosphere, and the RoCalifornia if it’s let escape the CSA.

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lockjawcanbefun  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:26:30am

Since everybody needs a juvenile moment:

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MsJ  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:26:41am

re: #445 Bubblehead II

Well at least Arnold has some experience with Governing unlike the pumpkin pinochet.

True. Not that CA was doing spectacularly under his leadership.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:27:38am

re: #451 Chrysicat

No, they really don’t.

They’re doing it to turn the entire SCS, outside Vietnam’s and the Philippines’ 20-mile limit, into Chinese internal waters.

And that’s even more asinine than Canada trying the same thing with the Northwest passage.

There really are no good guys between the Confederate States of America, the Red Chinese, and Putinist Russia.

Just the EU and parts of the non-American Anglosphere, and the RoCalifornia if it’s let escape the CSA.

Really wanted to upding that, but my old folks didn’t join the Anglosphere willingly. And Chief Eufaula gave up the deed at the point of Andrew Jackson’s sword. We have a mural about it downtown.

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mmmirele  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:28:18am

re: #387 Charles Johnson

Try also “non-citizen.” Milo is Greek but may have some sort of immigration status in Britain. What a hypocrite Trump is.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:29:47am

re: #455 mmmirele

Try also “non-citizen.” Milo is Greek but may have some sort of immigration status in Britain. What a hypocrite Trump is.

Seriously? Hater ain’t even an official, real American citizen?

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:29:51am

re: #444 Lupin

What’s up with the botched up Yemen raid?

Here (in France) we’re seeing photos of a cute 8-year (?) old girl allegedly having been gunned down by one of your soldiers, plus allegations of other civilians (non-terrorists) also having been down in cold blood. It looks like My Lai.

sample article in French

Here you seem mostly to talk about a dead SEAL.

What’s going on?

Sorry, but it takes a tremendous level of ignorance to suggest even the slightest similarity to My Lai

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:30:14am

re: #449 Decatur Deb

Which one of those is an American?

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Decatur Deb  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:31:06am

re: #458 Belafon

Which one of those is an American?

The girl and the SEAL? Both.

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Chrysicat  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:31:15am

re: #454 Decatur Deb

Sorry, should have known you were mostly First Nations (or First American. ‘Native American’ really does seem a bad call for me, not least because there has to be some legitimate term for non-descendants-of-First-Americans, who were born within the 20th-century bounds of the USA).

No idea how that slipped my mind.

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makeitstop  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:32:06am

re: #449 Decatur Deb

Because dead little girls are far more comon than dead SEALs.

And the little girl was the daughter of an American who was fighting against Navy SEALs until he got his ticket punched.

In other news, someone released direct phone umbers for White House staff. Fun times…

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Decatur Deb  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:32:54am

re: #460 Chrysicat

Sorry, should have known you were mostly First Nations (or First American. ‘Native American’ really does seem a bad call for me, not least because there has to be some legitimate term for non-descendants-of-First-Americans, who were born within the 20th-century bounds of the USA).

No idea how that slipped my mind.

Nah. My kids have the fashionable trace of Cherokee and Creek from my wife. Mom’s side was Irish.

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John Hughes  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:35:02am

re: #124 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Shoes. Shoes are good.

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:35:11am

Unfu…

Nope. Totally fucking believable.

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Chrysicat  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:37:53am

re: #462 Decatur Deb

Ahh. Yes, I guess that does count, though I really do think that the Celtic languages aren’t quite so well suited to even wrapping a tongue around, let alone being an international-communication language, as English.

Though that might only be because the latter language is the only one I can even imagine thinking in, and there are concepts that I believe to be indispensable to technological society in it.

And I like technological society! :-P

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Decatur Deb  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:40:08am

re: #465 Chrysicat

Ahh. Yes, I guess that does count, though I really do think that the Celtic languages aren’t quite so well suited to even wrapping a tongue around, let alone being an international-communication language, as English.

Though that might only be because the latter language is the only one I can even imagine thinking in, and there are concepts that I believe to be indispensable to technological society in it.

And I like technological society! :-P

I’m so old I remember when “helicoptoris” was introduced to Church Latin.

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Lupin  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:44:09am

re: #457 FormerDirtDart

Sorry, but it takes a tremendous level of ignorance to suggest even the slightest similarity to My Lai

You may well be correct, but that is not the impression given by the articles I’ve read.

Let me translate a passage from the one I linked to, which is among the least “controversial”:

According to the child’s grandfather, Nawar-al-Awlaki was killed while she was at home with her mother. “A bullet hit her around 2:30 in the morning. Other children living in the same house were also killed.”

Nawar-al-Awlaki, known as Nora, was the daughter of US al-Qaeda leader Anwar-al-Awlaki, who was killed by a US strike in 2011.

The overall number of dead is estimated at 59 civilians according to Yemeni authorities, including 14 militants.

By “militantsa” I assume they mean “terrorists”.

While there were no gang rapes and mutilations here, according to wiki, 22 people were killed in My Lai; even subtracting the terrorists you’re talking about 45 dead civilians here.

Maybe the analogy isn’t correct, but you don’t seem to realize the impact on public opinion this is having.

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I cannot.  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:46:11am

Fun times.

Fed Ex says I wasn’t home when they delivered my phone.

I fucking well was here.

They say there’s a door tag that says where I can pick it up or when they’ll try again.

There’s no FUCKING DOOR TAG!

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:47:10am

re: #468 I cannot.

Fun times.

Fed Ex says I wasn’t home when they delivered my phone.

I fucking well was here.

They say there’s a door tag that says where I can pick it up or when they’ll try again.

There’s no FUCKING DOOR TAG!

They attempted to deliver to the wrong address?

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ObserverArt  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:48:07am

re: #363 lawhawk

Oh, and some folks are now saying that Trump/Bannon’s actions are proof that he finally needs to be removed from office.

Sorry, the time was months ago when people were all EMAIL! and thinking that there was no difference between Trump and Clinton and that they could throw away their vote for a 3d party candidate, because there’d be no difference in policies or procedures, or that life would go on and they’d be insulated from the consequences.

Right.

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You cannot count on impeachment here. The GOP would need a massive body count for that to happen - and many of them would be swept up for being complicit. No, the path is via the 25th Amendment at the moment, and even there, the GOP wont act because they’ve been fine with all of this. They’ve gained the power they crave. They stole a supreme court seat and have suffered no consequences for that. They’ll go along with what Bannon and Trump are doing, because they think they’ll be fine.

Strange times.

I met with a client yesterday to drop off final files of some illustration work I did for their gun dealership. Yes…they specialize in AR and AK style rifles.

He is an ex-Marine with Iraq tours. Big guy, all buffed up and he and his business partner run fitness centers in the central Ohio area. Originally from Texas and still has people there.

What would most people think his politics would be? Probably many would say he is a conservative Trump lover.

He told me yesterday he just joined MoveOn.

100% does not like Trump…can’t figure out why America didn’t see it.

Also told me they had their best month in their new rifle sales business in October. Pre-election loading up by the scared conservative gun nuts.

Looks for a surge in liberal/progressive sales as he figures they will be buying to protect themselves from the scared conservative gun nuts and newly pumped up Trumpers.

Yep…strange times indeed.

As I listened to him I had visions of Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck…with Elmer Fudd the typical American Trump voter.

Rabbit Season, Duck Season trilogy.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:48:29am

re: #464 lawhawk

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Unfu…

Nope. Totally fucking believable.

A thank you to the fundies that overlooked everything wrong with him.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:48:40am
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Chrysicat  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:49:14am
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Decatur Deb  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:49:18am

re: #467 Lupin

You may well be correct, but that is not the impression given by the articles I’ve read.

Let me translate a passage from the one I linked to, which is among the least “controversial”:

By “militantsa” I assume they mean “terrorists”.

While there were no gang rapes and mutilations here, according to wiki, 22 people were killed in My Lai; even subtracting the terrorists you’re talking about 45 dead civilians here.

Maybe the analogy isn’t correct, but you don’t seem to realize the impact on public opinion this is having.

The difference is that it wasn’t done deliberately on company-level orders. And there hasn’t been a real opportunity to deny it (yet).

“It’s not the Zippo squad, it’s the cover-up.”

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Sir John Barron  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:49:39am

re: #471 HappyWarrior

A thank you to the fundies that overlooked everything wrong with him.

Although they want DT to “destroy” limits on church political activity. So, feature, not a bug, etc.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:52:25am

re: #464 lawhawk

Unfu…

Nope. Totally fucking believable.

Westboro has got to be thrilled.

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MsJ  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:52:46am

Here’s a Twitter account to follow: @realDonaldCntxt

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:53:02am

re: #340 Decatur Deb

I’ve little evidence but something similar happened here in Toronto during the G20 in 2010.

Despite months of preparation, $1.8 billion spent on security, police forces from all over the country plus some Armed Forces units about 2 dozen ‘Black Bloc’ people performed acts of vandalism downtown for about 90 minutes. Then they took off their balaclavas and disappeared into the peaceful protestors.

Only then did the security act, kettling protestors and arresting large numbers of them. As far as I know not a single ‘Black Bloc’ member was arrested and charged.

As I said, little evidence, except that the police didn’t do jack shit until the damage was done.

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ObserverArt  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:54:56am

re: #378 lawhawk

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This second video is notable, not only because it shows size and scope of the eruption, but because there’s a couple of people who managed to get dangerously close to the erupting lava.

Is it me, or are the two videos of the lava flowing into the sea fittingly symbolic of the times?

Good chance it is me…but…

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:56:22am

Oh, and Hills sent Bill on another food run:

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darthstar  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:58:06am

Schwarzenegger to Trump: Why don’t we switch jobs and people can finally sleep comfortably again?

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darthstar  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:59:10am

My thoughts on the Nat Prayer Bf earlier…

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:59:32am

re: #467 Lupin

You may well be correct, but that is not the impression given by the articles I’ve read.

Let me translate a passage from the one I linked to, which is among the least “controversial”:

By “militantsa” I assume they mean “terrorists”.

While there were no gang rapes and mutilations here, according to wiki, 22 people were killed in My Lai; even subtracting the terrorists you’re talking about 45 dead civilians here.

Maybe the analogy isn’t correct, but you don’t seem to realize the impact on public opinion this is having.

The My Lai massacre involved the deaths of hundreds of civilians, estimates ranging from around ~350 to 500.
Not tens of people during a massive firefight. Hundreds of people executed.

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Chrysicat  Feb 2, 2017 • 7:59:33am

re: #480 lawhawk

Thank you for pointing out an account I should have followed sooner! :-D

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ObserverArt  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:00:00am

re: #387 Charles Johnson

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
If U.C. Berkeley does not allow free speech and practices violence on innocent people with a different point of view - NO FEDERAL FUNDS?
6:13 AM - 2 Feb 2017
26,394 26,394 Retweets 85,673 85,673 likes

So, does this mean if Trump moves to stop any forms of demonstrations and protests against him then the American people can call for Congress to cut off FEDERAL FUNDS to any Trump programs, legislation and the like?

I’m in!

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Lupin  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:00:07am

re: #474 Decatur Deb

The difference is that it wasn’t done deliberately on company-level orders. And there hasn’t been a real opportunity to deny it (yet).

All true, yet subtleties that will fly over the simple crowd.

What folks see here is a shockingly photogenic war crime, which will drive an appetite for revenge, which, with information-sharing being imperiled between the EU and the US, increases the probability of a successful strike on US soil , which in turn will be the last excuse needed to go from the current democrature to full-blown junta.

I mean, you’re not playing with fire, you’re smoking in a bathtub full of gasoline.

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Lupin  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:01:42am

re: #483 FormerDirtDart

The My Lai massacre involved the deaths of hundreds of civilians, estimates ranging from around ~350 to 500.
Not tens of people during a massive firefight. Hundreds of people executed.

Thank you for the correction, I genuinely had no idea so many people had been killed.

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:02:47am

re: #381 lawhawk

I’m sure the SEALs that were in Yemen are going to have things to say to these people. Most of it will be profane.

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:03:58am

re: #486 Lupin

All true, yet subtleties that will fly over the simple crowd.

What folks see here is a shockingly photogenic war crime, which will drive an appetite for revenge, which, with information-sharing being imperiled between the EU and the US, increases the probability of a successful strike on US soil , which in turn will be the last excuse needed to go from the current democrature to full-blown junta.

I mean, you’re not playing with fire, you’re smoking in a bathtub full of gasoline.

Bush’s approvals weren’t negative at the time 9/11 happened. Plus, there had not been a 9/11. Trump doesn’t get the “we didn’t know it could happen” benefit.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:04:28am

There were a few heroes at Mai Lai. Decades later the Army recognized these ones. Our office turned out for the decoration ceremony.

nytimes.com

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MsJ  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:06:13am

For whatever this is worth.

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:06:40am

re: #488 Romantic Heretic

They will be professional and they will mourn their loss and will demand that those above them provide them with the intel and capabilities to make their mission a success.

This was not a success by any stretch. Lost personnel. Injured personnel. Mission objectives missed. They basically walked into a trap, and they knew it. They persevered despite the odds.

The President used the SEAL’s death as a op for showing toughness.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:07:07am

re: #452 lockjawcanbefun

Added benefit - judge who sentenced him is named “Doody”.

Judge Judy, meet Judge Doody.

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jimmyvluv4u  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:07:41am

re: #491 MsJ

My opinion on that account: if it’s real, than holy shit. And if it’s not, then hopefully the paranoid wackjobs in the WH still think it is and it drives them crazy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:08:35am

re: #464 lawhawk

Trump said he would “totally destroy” limits on political activity by churches. Congress would have to act

why should he not reward those people who made his success possible?

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Myron Falwell  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:08:37am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:08:42am

re: #490 Decatur Deb

There were a few heroes at Mai Lai. Decades later the Army recognized these ones. Our office turned out for the decoration ceremony.

nytimes.com

I remember reading about Thompson when I worked for the history magazine firm. Guy was a hero.

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:08:55am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:09:22am

re: #496 Myron Falwell

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WTF.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:09:38am

re: #498 lawhawk

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Zing.

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lizardofid  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:09:43am

re: #490 Decatur Deb

There were a couple heroes at Mai Lai. Decades later the Army recognized these. Our office turned out for the decoration ceremony.

nytimes.com

“Don’t do the right thing looking for a reward, because it might not come.”

damn straight

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Sir John Barron  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:09:57am

re: #498 lawhawk

Love Alyssa. And she’s actually pretty informed.

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Citizen K  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:10:57am

re: #492 lawhawk

They will be professional and they will mourn their loss and will demand that those above them provide them with the intel and capabilities to make their mission a success.

This was not a success by any stretch. Lost personnel. Injured personnel. Mission objectives missed. They basically walked into a trap, and they knew it. They persevered despite the odds.

The President used the SEAL’s death as a op for showing toughness.

And even the attempt to frame this as Trump’s own ‘Benghazi’ falls flat. Benghazi was a surprise attack that caught us off guard. This was something we willingly walked into despite earlier intel that this was a mistake. And people suffered for it, civilians and personnel alike. This was a much, much, much more avoidable mistake. And Trump will likely pay no consequence for it either because, Trump.

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:11:31am

Back to back tweets in my feed:

McCain is simultaneously trying to clean up Trump’s shit show and enabling it.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:13:25am

re: #504 lawhawk

Back to back tweets in my feed:

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McCain is simultaneously trying to clean up Trump’s shit show and enabling it.

He likes to have it both ways. He talked tough on Tillerson and ultimately voted to confirm him. McCain’s a party guy. through and through.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:13:27am

re: #504 lawhawk

McCain:”I called Australia’s Ambassador to the United States this morning to express my unwavering support for the U.S.-Australia alliance.”

This should keep DT occupied on Twitter all afternoon.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:14:14am

re: #505 HappyWarrior

He likes to have it both ways. He talked tough on Tillerson and ultimately voted to confirm him. McCain’s a party guy. through and through.

Seriously, he did some mighty about-face on Tillerson.

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:15:05am

re: #491 MsJ

For whatever this is worth.

Who doesn’t think Trump could have said this? If I were making an Oliver-Stone-like movie about Trump, I would include this even if it wasn’t true.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:15:35am

re: #381 lawhawk

re: #488 Romantic Heretic

I’m sure the SEALs that were in Yemen are going to have things to say to these people. Most of it will be profane.

2/ Said an active duty SEAL to a friend. I think of it whenever I see stuff like this.
3/ Seems a good time to link to this: SEALs gone wild: publicity, fame, and the loss of the quiet professional Link
4/ There are folks in the community pushing back against this kind of nonsense.
5/ “The individuals mentioned in this thesis, and others out promoting themselves as SEALs, represent the minority…
6/ “If politics are allowed to cloud the apolitical nature of elite military organizations like NSW, credibility and capability
7/ are diminished, and the fabric of civil-military relations is strained. Society must not fall victim to the current ‘SEAL Mythos,’
8/ which, as retired SEAL Bob Schoultz correctly says “speaks more of bravado than quiet professionalism,
9/ more in-your-face, than humble servant of our country.” The people of this nation should be suspicious
10/ of SEALs who speak too loudly about themselves or act too interested in undermining their elected leaders.”

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:16:14am

This bothers me to no end. I worry that my shul will be next. We have an active congregation, and others in the NYC metro area have been targeted with threats. It doesn’t take much to turn a threat into an actual attack. In fact a few years ago, someone did engage in firebombing shuls. They’re in jail now for attempted murder and arson and hate crimes, but here we’ve got Bannon/Trump pushing to end FBI program that identifies right wing terror groups and threats, not just Islamic terror groups.

Who benefits? Not those who are targeted by right wing terror groups and white supremacist/neo Nazi groups, who are increasingly active and coming out of the shadows thanks to Bannon/Trump.

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Romantic Heretic  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:17:17am

re: #449 Decatur Deb

Because dead little girls are far more comon than dead SEALs.

SEALs are heroes. Dead little girls are unavoidable collateral damage.

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ObserverArt  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:18:25am

re: #412 HappyWarrior

Wish people wouldn’t do that. Gorsuch is a bad pick but he’s not David Duke.

Yeah. He’s cleaner and slicker. /

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:18:31am

re: #510 lawhawk

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This bothers me to no end. I worry that my shul will be next. We have an active congregation, and others in the NYC metro area have been targeted with threats. It doesn’t take much to turn a threat into an actual attack. In fact a few years ago, someone did engage in firebombing shuls. They’re in jail now for attempted murder and arson and hate crimes, but here we’ve got Bannon/Trump pushing to end FBI program that identifies right wing terror groups and threats, not just Islamic terror groups.

Who benefits? Not those who are targeted by right wing terror groups and white supremacist/neo Nazi groups, who are increasingly active and coming out of the shadows thanks to Bannon/Trump.

And Trump’s administration is going to ignore white supremacist threats in this countr to focus only on Islamic terrorism.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:19:52am

re: #513 HappyWarrior

And Trump’s administration is going to ignore white supremacist threats in this countr to focus only on Islamic terrorism.

They’re not going to ignore them, they are going to RECRUIT THEM.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:20:06am

re: #513 HappyWarrior

And Trump’s administration is going to ignore white supremacist threats in this countr to focus only on Islamic terrorism.

Because Islam is a threat to Our Way of Life.

/

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Sir John Barron  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:20:13am

re: #510 lawhawk

57 U.S. Jewish centers receive bomb threats in past month: ‘Why is no one talking about this?’

How typical is this? Sounds like an awful lot.

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MsJ  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:20:27am

re: #504 lawhawk

Back to back tweets in my feed:

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McCain is simultaneously trying to clean up Trump’s shit show and enabling it.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:21:01am

McCain is fucking useless.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:21:26am

re: #510 lawhawk

Yet DT rages at…an incident involving provocateur Milo at Berkeley.

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BeachDem  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:22:26am

re: #422 Charles Johnson

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Wish somebody would remind the yam that he’s the fucking president, not an aspiring right wing comic at open mic night.

I know shouldn’t be, but I’m still totally shocked at the stream of consciousness crap he posts on Twitter. That he gives every “thought” voice is utterly amazing. And pathetic. And frightening.

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ObserverArt  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:22:44am

re: #414 darthstar

Go to war with China and watch troops perish by the thousands. Never mind the economy going down faster than you can make a run on the bank.

Troops. Fuck that. I’d be worried about all of us.

I never forget who developed black powder and used it first in fireworks that led to rockets.

And they have scientists too. Good ones. Many trained in the U.S.

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:23:31am

re: #519 Sir John Barron

Yet DT rages at…an incident involving provocateur Milo at Berkeley.

Trump, and Fox, are trying to distract from the Yemen operation report.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:23:38am

re: #520 BeachDem

Wish somebody would remind the yam that he’s the fucking president, not an aspiring right wing comic at open mic night.

I know shouldn’t be, but I’m still totally shocked at the stream of consciousness crap he posts on Twitter. That he gives every “thought” voice is utterly amazing. And pathetic. And frightening.

That’s why we love him so much! So much honest!

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ObserverArt  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:24:10am

re: #425 Belafon

And imagine how much it benefits the Chinese to significantly weaken our Navy.

Hmmm. Remember Trump wants to rebuild a strong Navy.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:24:41am

re: #510 lawhawk

If DT isn’t going to speak up about this, somebody in Congress should.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:25:52am

re: #524 ObserverArt

Hmmm. Remember Trump wants to rebuild a strong Navy.

BATTLESHIPS! THE BEST, THE BIGGEST BATTLESHIP FLEET EVER ASSEMBLED!!!!!

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:26:30am

re: #524 ObserverArt

Hmmm. Remember Trump wants to rebuild a strong Navy.

Unless we were to convert to a WW2 style wartime economy, we’re not going to build that fast, and we definitely won’t build anything like carriers, cruisers, or subs fast enough for a Trump induced war.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:27:37am

re: #523 Sir John Barron

That’s why we love him so much! So much honest!

Already sick of how honest he is.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:30:53am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:34:25am

re: #529 FormerDirtDart

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Already off to a sterling start. Meanwhlie Obama was cool and collected doing jokes whlie the OBL raid was going on.

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BeachDem  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:36:23am

re: #505 HappyWarrior

He likes to have it both ways. He talked tough on Tillerson and ultimately voted to confirm him. McCain’s a party guy McCain guy through and through.

I will never be convinced that McCain cares about anyone other than McCain.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:37:59am

re: #531 BeachDem

I will never be convinced that McCain cares about anyone other than McCain.

I think that’s right honestly. I’ve actually come to dislike McCain more than I have W Bush.

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FormerDirtDart  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:39:01am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:39:23am

Well today’s work research paper is on NAFTA and TPP. Unlike CFR, this is something I really am not really one side or the other on in. I lean twoards supporting deals like NAFTA and TPP because they expand our foreign relationships though.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:39:59am

re: #533 FormerDirtDart

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Alt-left?

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jimmyvluv4u  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:40:57am

re: #535 HappyWarrior

That tweet is some serious four-dimensional projection.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:42:12am

re: #536 jimmyvluv4u

That tweet is some serious four-dimensional projection.

You’re telling me.

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:42:48am

Undermines the nature of the threat if you’re reminding everyone that Iran photo edited their missile launch tests/exercises. Oh, and Jar Jar approves.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:44:24am

re: #535 HappyWarrior

Alt-left?

we already have alt-National Park Service. I am glad to see the left is reclaiming the term.

and I would welcome the rise of a folk-hero movement, I think it is just what the nation needs to rally around against such a narcissistic bully.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:45:31am

re: #539 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

we already have alt-National Park Service. I am glad to see the left is reclaiming the term.

and I would welcome the rise of a folk-hero movement, I think it is just what the nation needs to rally around against such a narcissistic bully.

They’re saying punk music is going to make a comeback here in the Trump years. Hopefully folk continues to do so too. I like both types.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:45:37am

re: #533 FormerDirtDart

Anti-Trump graffiti spree a sign of emerging alt-left, liberal activist says

Or, you know, George Soros paying leftists to graffiti.

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I cannot.  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:45:43am

re: #532 HappyWarrior

Same, as much as I dislike W (ok, hate), I don’t think he was in it only for himself. I get the MEMEME vibe from McCain…except for one issue, and I think its still a MEMEME thing, because torture directly affected him.

And then you get to Trump and I get a mix of that MEMEME vibe, but without the basic intelligence that even W had, and with ego cranked up etc…but beyond that, I get the feeling of this…

The Dark Knight - Some Men Just Want To Watch The World Burn

And despite whatever I think about W or McCain, I don’t get that feeling from them.

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darthstar  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:47:09am

re: #535 HappyWarrior

Alt-left?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:47:14am

re: #542 I cannot.

Same, as much as I dislike W (ok, hate), I don’t think he was in it only for himself. I get the MEMEME vibe from McCain…except for one issue, and I think its still a MEMEME thing, because torture directly affected him.

And then you get to Trump and I get a mix of that MEMEME vibe, but without the basic intelligence that even W had, and with ego cranked up etc…but beyond that, I get the feeling of this…

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That’s what I mean. I think W was in it for people other than himself. McCain is much more self absorbed and image obsesesd.

And despite whatever I think about W or McCain, I don’t get that feeling from them.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:47:33am

Uhh, what?

John McCain, please pick up the white courtesy phone…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:47:34am

re: #543 darthstar

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I’d drink to that but I’m telecommuting today.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:48:23am

re: #546 HappyWarrior

I’d drink to that but I’m telecommuting today.

I don’t see how those two things are incompatible?

/, sorta

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Myron Falwell  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:49:13am

re: #538 lawhawk

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Undermines the nature of the threat if you’re reminding everyone that Iran photo edited their missile launch tests/exercises. Oh, and Jar Jar approves.

Who cares as long as Drudge gets a nice kickback from Putin and Co. to run it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:52:06am

re: #540 HappyWarrior

They’re saying punk music is going to make a comeback here in the Trump years. Hopefully folk continues to do so too. I like both types.

we did both at once

myspace page

not really representative, but here are some tracks from the album I co-wrote (all the songs) and recorded with them (banjo, acoustic guitar and mandolin)

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Sir John Barron  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:52:16am

re: #545 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Uhh, what?

John McCain, please pick up the white courtesy phone…

Maybe buying their IT equipment will make it easier for them to hack us.

half sarc

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darthstar  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:52:17am

re: #546 HappyWarrior

I’d drink to that but I’m telecommuting today.

I’m telecommuting for another hour. Tree fell and closed highway 92 out of Half Moon Bay, so Highway 1 North has been a parking lot. One of the disadvantages of having only two roads out.

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BeachDem  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:55:08am

Of little importance in the scheme of things, but illustrates how the yam’s “mind” works (or doesn’t)

Trump claimed “The Celebrity Apprentice” was No. 1 to a roomful of reporters at the winter 2015 TV press tour, and was corrected pretty swiftly: A few reporters pointed out that the show wasn’t even tops on the night it aired. Trump shrugged it off, replying, “That’s what I was told.”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:56:14am

re: #547 A wild WITHAK appeared!

I don’t see how those two things are incompatible?

/, sorta

Yeah I’m research NAFTA. I should have bought Canadian whisky and bourbon to accommodate my tequlla.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:56:29am

re: #552 BeachDem

Of little importance in the scheme of things, but illustrates how the yam’s “mind” works (or doesn’t)

Trump claimed “The Celebrity Apprentice” was No. 1 to a roomful of reporters at the winter 2015 TV press tour, and was corrected pretty swiftly: A few reporters pointed out that the show wasn’t even tops on the night it aired. Trump shrugged it off, replying, “That’s what I was told.”

as soon as he says anything, no matter how implausible, people go scrambling to make it sound so…

listen to his heart, not what he emits from his pie hole.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:57:26am

re: #552 BeachDem

Of little importance in the scheme of things, but illustrates how the yam’s “mind” works (or doesn’t)

Trump claimed “The Celebrity Apprentice” was No. 1 to a roomful of reporters at the winter 2015 TV press tour, and was corrected pretty swiftly: A few reporters pointed out that the show wasn’t even tops on the night it aired. Trump shrugged it off, replying, “That’s what I was told.”

I think the first season finale achieved the top rank of #7 but then it sank after that. Never #1 at any time.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:58:28am
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Belafon  Feb 2, 2017 • 8:59:19am

re: #552 BeachDem

Of little importance in the scheme of things, but illustrates how the yam’s “mind” works (or doesn’t)

Trump claimed “The Celebrity Apprentice” was No. 1 to a roomful of reporters at the winter 2015 TV press tour, and was corrected pretty swiftly: A few reporters pointed out that the show wasn’t even tops on the night it aired. Trump shrugged it off, replying, “That’s what I was told.”

It was the number one show on that channel at that time, as long as you exclude the commercials.

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ObserverArt  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:01:59am

re: #518 HappyWarrior

McCain is fucking useless.

And, he’s made a long career out of it.

Thanks Arizona.

I guess it is too much sun…but it is a dry heat!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:03:01am
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ObserverArt  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:04:04am

re: #527 Belafon

Unless we were to convert to a WW2 style wartime economy, we’re not going to build that fast, and we definitely won’t build anything like carriers, cruisers, or subs fast enough for a Trump induced war.

You doubt the Great Trump???

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:04:08am

re: #559 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Paul you’re fucking useless. IT wasn’t just a tweet, you twit.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:04:55am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:07:10am

re: #562 Backwoods_Sleuth

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MsJ  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:08:13am

re: #545 A wild WITHAK appeared!

Uhh, what?

[Embedded content]

John McCain, please pick up the white courtesy phone…

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BeachDem  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:08:28am

re: #555 The Vicious Babushka

I think the first season finale achieved the top rank of #7 but then it sank after that. Never #1 at any time.

“The Apprentice” was a genuine hit in that first season, ending as the seventh-most-watched TV show of the year, averaging almost 21 million viewers a week.

Its ratings declined steadily each year after that, to 11th place overall in its second season, then 15th, then 38th. When, after its sixth season in 2007, it finished as the 75th

The celebrity show did better, but it has been middle of the pack all the way, with finishes ranking from 46th to 84th

This ratings history hasn’t stopped the notoriously boastful Trump from bragging about the show’s success, of course. Appearing before TV critics last January, he called “Celebrity Apprentice” the No. 1 show on television.

chicagotribune.com

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ObserverArt  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:09:55am

re: #562 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hey Sleuth…see any groundhogs today?

I’m not worried about shadows, sun, all that. I have a fear that in this New Land of Trump little furry marmots might give up and not even show?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:10:01am

oh…………

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:11:02am

re: #566 ObserverArt

Hey Sleuth…see any groundhogs today?

I’m not worried about shadows, sun, all that. I have a fear that in this New Land of Trump little furry marmots might give up and not even show?

only saw a possum.

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electrotek  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:12:32am

I had a friend who posted a stupid meme about “Democrats cheering” when Elian Gonzales for “forcibly repatriated” back to his father in Cuba on my wall.

Just the red herrings, My God. I don’t want to delete people for disagreeing with me, and besides, the more they post, the more it allows me to sharpen my intellect and react accordingly.

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MsJ  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:12:47am

re: #562 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Capitol voice recognition system connected me to the senator and promptly disconnected me.

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BeachDem  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:13:14am

re: #567 Backwoods_Sleuth

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oh…………

The stagecraft of all the messy stacks of papers and folders on his desk continues to intrigue me. I would bet the man has not only not read any of the crap on his desk, but that he has not read that many words in his lifetime.

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:13:34am

re: #569 electrotek

“Ashamed of Trump already?”

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Eventual Carrion  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:14:01am

re: #126 Kragar

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Well, if the Jews had possessed guns back in 1930’s Germany …

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:14:47am

re: #571 BeachDem

The stagecraft of all the messy stacks of papers and folders on his desk continues to intrigue me. I would bet the man has not only not read any of the crap on his desk, but that he has not read that many words in his lifetime.

It’s all fake. He can’t even read.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:15:38am

re: #569 electrotek

I had a friend who posted a stupid meme about “Democrats cheering” when Elian Gonzales for “forcibly repatriated” back to his father in Cuba on my wall.

Just the red herrings, My God. I don’t want to delete people for disagreeing with me, and besides, the more they post, the more it allows me to sharpen my intellect and react accordingly.

Do they not remember that Gore and his running mate both distanced themselves from the administration on that? HOnetsly I felt conflicted on that case but I ultimately felt that boy belonged with his father in Cuba. Sick of RW revisionist bs though. No one I knew cheered that and I come from a very Democratic family.

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John Hughes  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:15:43am

re: #430 Decatur Deb

Pretty sure the nice ones are Canadians, unless I’ve conflated my colonials again.

Well, if you ignore that whole oil sands thing.

New Zealanders, they’re nice. Oh, wait, Peter Thiel.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:16:19am

re: #567 Backwoods_Sleuth

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oh…………

Making things worse.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:16:48am

re: #569 electrotek

I had a friend who posted a stupid meme about “Democrats cheering” when Elian Gonzales for “forcibly repatriated” back to his father in Cuba on my wall.

Just the red herrings, My God. I don’t want to delete people for disagreeing with me, and besides, the more they post, the more it allows me to sharpen my intellect and react accordingly.

Is their meme supposed to be a response to DT’s Muslim ban?

If so, yeah, it’s pretty lame.

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ObserverArt  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:16:49am

re: #571 BeachDem

The stagecraft of all the messy stacks of papers and folders on his desk continues to intrigue me. I would bet the man has not only not read any of the crap on his desk, but that he has not read that many words in his lifetime.

He just looks at the pictures.

Of himself.

(I have Groundhog Day on AMC right now…it may have an affect on me. I forgot all the subtle humor in it. I need a laugh)

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Skip Intro  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:20:01am

re: #338 Myron Falwell

Peter Theil gets to bring out his lawnchair in his New Zealand compound and LOL at the nuclear warheads flying above his head.

half //

And how did Peter Thiel get his NZ citizenship when 30,000 apply yearly and only around 12 are accepted?

The old fashioned way. He bought it, of course.

Billionaire Peter Thiel Sparks New Zealand Passport-for-Sale Row

bloomberg.com

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:20:35am

re: #578 Sir John Barron

Is their meme supposed to be a response to DT’s Muslim ban?

If so, yeah, it’s pretty lame.

I’m so fucking tired of memes being a way of debating. I never use memes when I discuss politics on FB. I always speak from the heart and personal experience.

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Skip Intro  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:21:13am

re: #343 Myron Falwell

Media merger bombshell.

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Radio? What is radio?

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Myron Falwell  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:21:58am
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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:23:01am

re: #564 MsJ

That EO and regs are about to get undone by Trump. He’s gearing up to drop sanctions at the same time Russia’s attacking Ukraine in force.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:23:10am

re: #581 HappyWarrior

I’m so fucking tired of memes being a way of debating. I never use memes when I discuss politics on FB. I always speak from the heart and personal experience.

It’s the further dumbing down of our discourse.

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plansbandc  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:23:27am

re: #360 mmmirele

Damn. Brother Jed is STILL around? We used to give him huge shit. Dude preached at CU. Said we were the second most sinful campus. Number one? Wisconsin. :D

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:23:33am

re: #583 Myron Falwell

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They’re one of the best at hiring veterans. This is exactly why I called out the “You shouldn’t do A without doing B” mentality that I see too often by conservatives I know.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:24:13am

re: #566 ObserverArt

Hey Sleuth…see any groundhogs today?

I’m not worried about shadows, sun, all that. I have a fear that in this New Land of Trump little furry marmots might give up and not even show?

From what I heard, Marion’s Buckeye Chuck saw his shadow, which means six more weeks of either winter or the Trump Regime… I’m not sure which.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:24:26am

re: #585 Sir John Barron

It’s the further dumbing down of our discourse.

Yep and I hate to MBF but I don’t like it when our side does it either. Use YOUR words, YOUR experiences, etc.

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Arkansawyer  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:24:52am

re: #581 HappyWarrior

I’m so fucking tired of memes being a way of debating. I never use memes when I discuss politics on FB. I always speak from the heart and personal experience.

I’m convinced that a future presidential debate will involve only memes being displayed on a giant screen above each candidate’s podium. I think that’d make a good short film too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:26:20am

rest of the thread details particular programs (like National Park Service)

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Myron Falwell  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:27:52am

re: #582 Skip Intro

Radio? What is radio?

It’s television without pictures. Only more annoying and more repetitive.

It’s also why Les Moonves effectively made CBS News not cover Trump as aggressively as they should have. Because this merger will be rubber stamped, and that’s damn good for CBS.

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ObserverArt  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:28:01am

re: #588 Myron Falwell

From what I heard, Marion’s Buckeye Chuck saw his shadow, which means six more weeks of either winter or the Trump Regime… I’m not sure which.

I’ll take the winter in exchange for two more weeks of Trump and then out he goes.

(Hey I can hope…)

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electrotek  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:28:36am

re: #578 Sir John Barron

Is their meme supposed to be a response to DT’s Muslim ban?

If so, yeah, it’s pretty lame.

Yep.

I’m not sure if this is the correct way to refute it, but feel free to critique:

It’s flawed because it was an entirely different situation. It involved a family dispute involving who had custody of the child. Seeing how as Elian was taken from his father against his will, the mother and the Cuban exile community has no moral ground to stand on. I remember the outrage and I felt it was absurd back then since I was a sophomore when this occurred.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:30:13am

re: #594 electrotek

Yep.

I’m not sure if this is the correct way to refute it, but feel free to critique:

It’s flawed because it was an entirely different situation. It involved a family dispute involving who had custody of the child. Seeing how as Elian was taken from his father against his will, the mother and the Cuban exile community has no moral ground to stand on. I remember the outrage and I felt it was absurd back then since I was a sophomore when this occurred.

It was a difficult situation and very unfortunate that the U.S government had to get involved.

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electrotek  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:30:20am

re: #581 HappyWarrior

I’m so fucking tired of memes being a way of debating. I never use memes when I discuss politics on FB. I always speak from the heart and personal experience.

I agree, I normally don’t use memes but I made an exception which triggered the conservative snowflakes on my wall. And boy was it glorious:

Facebook Post

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Sir John Barron  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:30:40am

re: #594 electrotek

IIRC, didn’t the mother die in transit somehow? I think that was part of the issue. The Miami relatives were not his nearest kin.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:31:14am

My closest brother in age were wondering what happened to Elian though some time ago. He’s all grown up now and may have a family of his own. I wonder how well he remembers his brief time in the U.S and being an international story.

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electrotek  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:31:56am

re: #597 Sir John Barron

IIRC, didn’t the mother die in transit somehow? I think that was part of the issue. The Miami relatives were not his nearest kin.

It’s been a while since I remember the details from that controversy so I don’t remember if the mother’s passing while in transit occurred. Anyone else can feel free to chime in.

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BeachDem  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:31:59am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:32:09am

re: #597 Sir John Barron

IIRC, didn’t the mother die in transit somehow? I think that was part of the issue. The Miami relatives were not his nearest kin.

Yep the mother died. Which honestly is another reason why I was glad to see us get rid of the restrictions with Cuba. People were risking death in order to flee.

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electrotek  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:32:33am

re: #598 HappyWarrior

My closest brother in age were wondering what happened to Elian though some time ago. He’s all grown up now and may have a family of his own. I wonder how well he remembers his brief time in the U.S and being an international story.

He’s all grown up and proud to be Cuban. And he doesn’t have any interest in moving to the U.S., much to the disappointment of the Batista-loving gusanos of Miami.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:32:34am

re: #600 BeachDem

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What an ass.

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electrotek  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:32:59am

re: #601 HappyWarrior

Yep the mother died. Which honestly is another reason why I was glad to see us get rid of the restrictions with Cuba. People were risking death in order to flee.

Okay thanks for the clarification. And ditto on the stupid embargo, but the idiotic Cuban exiles still wanted to keep that in.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:34:30am

re: #604 electrotek

Okay thanks for the clarification. And ditto on the stupid embargo, but the idiotic Cuban exiles still wanted to keep that in.

Yep. I never got that. The exiles to me seem to have a lot of Fuck you, I got mine. I see that especially with Ted Cruz and his father.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:35:37am

re: #602 electrotek

He’s all grown up and proud to be Cuban. And he doesn’t have any interest in moving to the U.S., much to the disappointment of the Batista-loving gusanos of Miami.

I just hope he has a happy life regardless of what he decides to call home. It was a tough situation for all involved.

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Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:36:02am

re: #599 electrotek

It’s been a while since I remember the details from that controversy so I don’t remember if the mother’s passing while in transit occurred. Anyone else can feel free to chime in.

She died while trying to get here. Elian’s extended family here fought for custody. It was a sad situation, but Elian belonged with his father. Period.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:36:15am

I understood why the family may have felt that way but ultimately I felt that the boy belonged with his father.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:37:10am

re: #607 Sionainn, the Nasty Devilbitch

She died while trying to get here. Elian’s extended family here fought for custody. It was a sad situation, but Elian belonged with his father. Period.

Yep and I felt bad for the extended family. I don’t think they were bad people but I believe as you do that Elian belonged with his dad. It just happened that his Dad lievd in Cuba.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:37:59am
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Birth Control Works  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:38:02am
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Skip Intro  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:38:18am

re: #556 Backwoods_Sleuth

No thumbs up picture of Trumpy next to the remains?

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Sir John Barron  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:38:26am

re: #602 electrotek

He’s all grown up and proud to be Cuban. And he doesn’t have any interest in moving to the U.S., much to the disappointment of the Batista-loving gusanos of Miami.

In fairness, he probably has to say that publicly, regardless.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:38:43am

Trump does realize China has the world’s largest army right? Right?

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MsJ  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:39:14am

re: #591 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Stanley Sea  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:39:23am

He’s so tough.

What the fuck kind of handshake is this?

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electrotek  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:39:32am

re: #613 Sir John Barron

In fairness, he probably has to say that publicly, regardless.

True. I don’t want people to think I’m a Castro apologist here just because I hate the Cuban exiles. I won’t excuse Fidel Castro at all, but I can’t give the right-wing a free pass when they venerate Fulgencio Batista either.

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Droid Builder  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:40:51am

re: #556 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And here is what happens next. Trump will use the excuse of “bad intel” to do what the Sewer Rat Barbie suggested last week and replace the Intel community with his own people.

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Charles Johnson  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:41:07am
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Sir John Barron  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:41:11am

re: #614 Eclectic Cyborg

Trump does realize China has the world’s largest army right? Right?

///

Who cares I’ll just nuke ‘em. “Nuke ‘em”. I love saying that. I’ll nuke that John McCain, too, if he won’t lay off me.

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MsJ  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:41:17am

re: #603 HappyWarrior

What an ass.

He will agree 100% with everything trump until SocSec and Medicare are gone. Then he will find a spine.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:41:37am

Linked article is from Axios, Trump’s cheerleader Mike Allen

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BeachDem  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:41:37am

re: #599 electrotek

It’s been a while since I remember the details from that controversy so I don’t remember if the mother’s passing while in transit occurred. Anyone else can feel free to chime in.

Yes, the mother died during the journey. i thought Ellen Goodman of the Boston Globe wrote some of the best articles/opinion pieces during the Elian saga—

Imagine how this case would have appeared — even in Little Havana — if the roles had been reversed. What if Juan Miguel had taken the boy on a dangerous ocean voyage in a leaky boat without telling Elizabeth. Would the trip have been considered a heroic break for freedom? Or an abduction?

What if Juan Miguel had died and Elizabeth, safe in Cuba, had asked for her son back? Would we have considered Juan Miguel a martyr whose last wishes should be granted? Or would we have considered him an irresponsible father whose traumatized little boy needed his mother?
deseretnews.com

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:42:02am

re: #619 Charles Johnson

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:42:21am

re: #616 Stanley Sea

He’s so tough.

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What the fuck kind of handshake is this?

A bullys handshake.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:43:15am

On display is the growing influence of the Russian Orthodox Church, which is pushing a strong traditionalist agenda. The church was actively behind a recent law banning the “propaganda of sexual minorities,” aimed at Russia’s beleaguered LGBT community. The Kremlin, while perhaps not the main driving force of the conservative wave, has clearly acquiesced to it and President Vladimir Putin is expected to sign the new law.

“Although priests do not play a politically active role, we see the positions of the Orthodox Church gradually attaining official status” as the church attempts to regain its czarist-era place as ideological bulwark of the state, says Nikolai Petrov, a political scientist with the Higher School of Economics in Moscow. “This suits the Kremlin, which constantly criticizes the West for abandoning its traditional principles while Russia is supposedly a bastion of good old family values. The international dimension isn’t the main reason for the upsurge of social conservatism in Russia, but it’s definitely there.”

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Dave In Austin  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:43:23am

re: #616 Stanley Sea

And then deposits his dna on Gorsuch’s wife….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:43:25am
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electrotek  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:43:47am

re: #627 Birth Control Works

But what about Saudi Arabia???!?!?!

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Birth Control Works  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:44:45am

So I did a google and couldn’t find a single response from the international communtiy to Russia’s move to decriminilize Domestic Violence.

IMHO, it warrants Sanctions.

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electrotek  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:46:16am

re: #631 Birth Control Works

So I did a google and couldn’t find a single response from the international communtiy to Russia’s move to decriminilize Domestic Violence.

IMHO, it warrants Sanctions.

I haven’t seen ANYONE in the GOP, let alone that dickshit Milo Yiannopolous and his pathetic fanboys, say a damn thing about Russia.

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:47:02am

re: #632 electrotek

I haven’t seen ANYONE in the GOP, let alone that dickshit Milo Yiannopolous and his pathetic fanboys, say a damn thing about Russia.

Hail Hydra. /half

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:47:28am

re: #575 HappyWarrior

Do they not remember that Gore and his running mate both distanced themselves from the administration on that? HOnetsly I felt conflicted on that case but I ultimately felt that boy belonged with his father in Cuba. Sick of RW revisionist bs though. No one I knew cheered that and I come from a very Democratic family.

The GOP won that on the newspaper image of the immigration officer pointing a gun at the frightened boy and his aunt…

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Myron Falwell  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:47:32am

re: #621 MsJ

He will agree 100% with everything trump until SocSec and Medicare are gone. Then he will find a spine.

Ryan will be thrown to the wolves well before that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:48:06am
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MsJ  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:49:04am

re: #632 electrotek

I haven’t seen ANYONE in the GOP, let alone that dickshit Milo Yiannopolous and his pathetic fanboys, say a damn thing about Russia.

If you are waiting for anyone in the GOP to come out against domestic violence, you will be waiting a very long time.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:49:13am

re: #629 Backwoods_Sleuth

When Lee reaches the end of his rope…… Thought Bubble {I want more than anyone for us to all get along in this world. But seriously, Fuck This Guy.}

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:49:46am

re: #580 Skip Intro

And how did Peter Thiel get his NZ citizenship when 30,000 apply yearly and only around 12 are accepted?

The old fashioned way. He bought it, of course.

Billionaire Peter Thiel Sparks New Zealand Passport-for-Sale Row

bloomberg.com

In Switzerland you can gain permanent residence status just by investing more than $1 million in a Swiss bank…

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:49:46am

re: #634 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The GOP won that on the newspaper image of the immigration officer pointing a gun at the frightened boy and his aunt…

YEah that was terrible optics. As I said, a difficult situation for all involved.Especially the boy who had lost his mother.

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MsJ  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:50:12am

re: #635 Myron Falwell

Ryan will be thrown to the wolves well before that.

I am not going to hold my breath waiting for that one, either.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:50:14am

Wow, @NancyPelosi straight up called Bannon a White Supremacist

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Myron Falwell  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:50:18am

re: #633 lawhawk

Hail Hydra. /half

Gary Shandling whispering that in “The Winter Soldier” was one of the most chilling things I’ve ever seen.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:50:43am

re: #581 HappyWarrior

I’m so fucking tired of memes being a way of debating. I never use memes when I discuss politics on FB. I always speak from the heart and personal experience.

Tweets, memes and bullet points. That is the level of political discourse that guarantees that people like Trump win.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:52:47am

re: #632 electrotek

I haven’t seen ANYONE in the GOP, let alone that dickshit Milo Yiannopolous and his pathetic fanboys, say a damn thing about Russia.

Nor the UN or any other European Country

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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:53:07am

re: #636 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump doing something without sufficient intelligence?

Yep, that seems about right.

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:55:36am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:58:03am

re: #644 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Tweets, memes and bullet points. That is the level of politic discourse that guarantees that people like Trump win.

Yep.

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:59:34am

re: #644 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

1) yup.
2) memes are easy. Like Brawndo. They’re full of electrolytes.
3) See 1, 2.

/half

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Dave In Austin  Feb 2, 2017 • 9:59:59am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:00:08am

re: #611 Birth Control Works

I now bring you your daily Shock Event:

Trump Vows to ‘Destroy’ Law Banning Political Activity by Churches

again, why should he not reward those who helped him the most?

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unproven innocence  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:00:51am

re: #611 Birth Control Works

I now bring you your daily Shock Event:

Trump Vows to ‘Destroy’ Law Banning Political Activity by Churches

See what big hands I have now? /

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:01:17am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:01:50am

Let’s play a game called “How many times can Trump violate the Constitution before he faces serious consequences?”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:02:38am

rawstory.com
You guys see this? Don’t any of these kids have grandfathers or great grandfathers who fought the Nazis? Gee I’m old enough (not even 30) to remember when we all agreed the Nazis sucked.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:03:00am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:03:35am

re: #654 Eclectic Cyborg

Let’s play a game called “How many times can Trump violate the Constitution before he faces serious consequences?”

As long as the Repubs have a majority in one or both Houses, Alex.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:03:43am

re: #654 Eclectic Cyborg

Let’s play a game called “How many times can Trump violate the Constitution before he faces serious consequences?”

I am not one to bet on others’ misfortune (or my own), but I would wager that the Constitution hits the mat long before Trump does…

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Dr. Matt  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:04:20am
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Interesting Times  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:04:33am

re: #654 Eclectic Cyborg

Let’s play a game called “How many times can Trump violate the Constitution before he faces serious consequences?”

As long as the GOP is in power, ∞

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Myron Falwell  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:05:00am

re: #641 MsJ

I am not going to hold my breath waiting for that one, either.

Well, it depends on the amount of ratfucking Bannon pulls behind the scenes to mobilize the MAGAguards. Why need elections?

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Skip Intro  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:05:44am

I can no longer keep up with all this shit, and he hasn’t been in office two weeks.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:06:37am

re: #662 Skip Intro

I can no longer keep up with all this shit, and he hasn’t been in office two weeks.

I know. Feels like so long ago Obama was president.

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lawhawk  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:07:08am

re: #654 Eclectic Cyborg

Let’s play a game called “How many times can Trump violate the Constitution before he faces serious consequences?”

Constitution Bingo.

Reality is that Trump seems capable of violating all of them and the GOP wouldn’t blink as long as they were getting what they wanted.

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:07:38am

re: #653 Backwoods_Sleuth

Instead of lightning, they should say God. It would finally get people’s attention.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:08:51am
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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:09:10am

re: #664 lawhawk

Constitution Bingo.

Reality is that Trump seems capable of violating all of them and the GOP wouldn’t blink as long as they were getting what they wanted.

A lot of the enver Trumpers are proving to be frauds.

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:09:45am

re: #662 Skip Intro

I can no longer keep up with all this shit, and he hasn’t been in office two weeks.

I would suggest generalizing a bit. Just remember if he’s done something constitutional.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:09:49am
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Myron Falwell  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:10:07am

re: #654 Eclectic Cyborg

Let’s play a game called “How many times can Trump violate the Constitution before he faces serious consequences?”

Does he leave the office through constitutional means… or otherwise?

Congress abdicated their oath to defend the Constitution. The judicial system is being ignored. The military and intelligence community are being abused. The populace is getting angry.

What a fucking time to be alive.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:10:37am

re: #669 Backwoods_Sleuth

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But we don’t want the Irish!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:11:42am

re: #654 Eclectic Cyborg

Let’s play a game called “How many times can Trump violate the Constitution before he faces serious consequences?”

What Constitution?

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Birth Control Works  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:11:48am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:12:14am

If you think you’re having a bad day…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:12:46am

re: #653 Backwoods_Sleuth

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We better build a wall. IN THE SKY!

And make GOD pay for it. Who’s going to pay for the wall? GOD!!!!!!

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plansbandc  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:12:53am

re: #674 The Vicious Babushka

That’s unfortunate.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:13:49am

Under a recently passed House rule, a new bill would have sold off 3 million acres of public lands—an egregious assault on Our Wild.

UPDATE: Rep. Jason Chaffetz announced in a post on Instagram that he is withdrawing the land selloff bill. The news follows many comments and calls to Congress from our supporters and other conservationists. Thank you!

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:15:00am

re: #677 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Good.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:16:36am

re: #677 Backwoods_Sleuth

Good. Now let’s sell him off. To the lowest bidder.

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:17:08am

re: #677 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just about to post about that. The whine is funny:

I am withdrawing HR 621. I’m a proud gun owner, hunter and love our public lands. The bill would have disposed of small parcels of lands Pres. Clinton identified as serving no public purpose but groups I support and care about fear it sends the wrong message. The bill was originally introduced several years ago. I look forward to working with you. I hear you and HR 621 dies tomorrow.

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BeachDem  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:17:09am

Facts? We don’t need no stinkin’ facts, local edition:

“Why are we paying $800,000 extra a year when half of the kids we’re teaching are not even here legally?” Defeo said.

WMBF News learned through an investigation there is no way to verify the claim that half of the children enrolled in the ESOL program are in the country illegally.

In order to get more clarity on his position, WMBF News followed up with Defeo regarding his comment that half of the ESOL students are illegal.

He stated his comment was a guess.

wmbfnews.com

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Birth Control Works  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:18:18am

Posted to my fb by me:

Russia has decriminalised Domestic Violence. NOT ONE WORD of condemnation from either the UNITED STATES government or the UN.

Knowing that Domestic Violence is the leading cause of PTSD and the that this illness lasts GENERATIONS, I am dissappointed that no one in this country or the international community has addressed Russia’s actions

I guess it’s not profitable enough.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:18:59am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:19:40am

re: #680 Belafon

Just about to post about that. The whine is funny:

and that poor puppy he’s holding in the instagram picture looks scared to death.

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petesh  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:21:06am

re: #642 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Go Nancy! Seriously, I only wish she were about 40 years younger. I also miss Harry Reed, though I admit Chuckles is doing better than I feared.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:21:34am

re: #683 Backwoods_Sleuth

Spicer: “we are not easing sanctions” on Russia

— Jim Acosta

At least they aren’t right now. Or they claim they aren’t. But it won’t be long.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:21:54am
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MsJ  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:21:58am

re: #666 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:22:40am

re: #684 Backwoods_Sleuth

and that poor puppy he’s holding in the instagram picture looks scared to death.

The problem we have to worry about is the bill to shift the security burden to the states is still on.

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MsJ  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:23:07am

re: #676 plansbandc

That’s unfortunate.

That’s…an understatement. :-)

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Birth Control Works  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:24:08am

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Sir John Barron  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:24:36am

re: #680 Belafon

Just about to post about that. The whine is funny:

Translation:
We’re just doing what Bill Clinton advocated, you commy libtards! He says it’s useless land! And this is only the same bill introduced many, many years ago that everyone wanted! But so many of you George Soros paid stooges called me and everybody else now nobody else wants to do it! We’ll get you!!!

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MsJ  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:26:36am

re: #684 Backwoods_Sleuth

and that poor puppy he’s holding in the instagram picture looks scared to death.

That puppy is adorable. I WANT!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:28:47am

oh….

Wow, @PressSec says Trump was NOT in the Situation Room during Yemen raid. #Yemenghazi

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Belafon  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:28:51am

Yay, some action:

Democrats are moving urgently to harness the wave of grass-roots protests that have greeted President Trump in his first weeks in office to reclaim the House majority in next year’s midterm elections.

As of this week, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee is hiring full-time operatives to do political organizing work in 20 key Republican-held districts — an unusually early investment in House races that do not even have declared candidates yet.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:29:10am

Old Images from my Library —from when I was in my Food Porn Phase.

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Skip Intro  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:29:54am

re: #677 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It was hardly a selloff - it was a giveaway.

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BeachDem  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:30:02am

“When you hear about the tough phone calls I’m having, don’t worry about it. Just don’t worry about it. They’re tough,” he said. “We have to be tough. It’s time we’re gonna be a little tough, folks. We’re taken advantage of by every nation in the world virtually. It’s not gonna happen anymore.”

Stevie Wonder - Don’t you worry bout a thing

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Sir John Barron  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:30:16am

re: #695 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh….

WHERE WAS HE?!?!??!??! GOLFING!??!?!??

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BeachDem  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:30:44am

re: #695 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh….

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Past his bedtime?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:30:57am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:32:25am
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gocart mozart  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:32:37am

re: #666 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Birth Control Works  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:33:51am
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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:34:34am

re: #700 Sir John Barron

WHERE WAS HE?!?!??!??! GOLFING!??!?!??

Watching TV.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:34:38am
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Franklin  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:34:49am

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HappyWarrior  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:38:44am

re: #707 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Excellent.

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Sir John Barron  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:39:29am

re: #703 Backwoods_Sleuth

Everything Trump says here is false. Iran was not collapsing. Deal is with 6 countries. Iran did not get 150 billion.

OK, but besides all that…..

///

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Birth Control Works  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:41:18am

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EmmaAnne  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:41:33am

re: #704 gocart mozart

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Really makes me appreciate the meme generator here though. The text is too tiny and the font isn’t great.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:41:34am
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Belafon  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:43:23am

re: #714 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ted Cruz is not answering his phone and his voicemail claims to be full. At least the staff of Ratcliffe and Cornyn have answered. And I’ve called Cruz before 5 on two different days.

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EmmaAnne  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:47:00am

re: #715 Belafon

Ted Cruz is not answering his phone and his voicemail claims to be full. At least the staff of Ratcliffe and Cornyn have answered. And I’ve called Cruz before 5 on two different days.

I was able to to reach Cory Gardner’s office and actually talk to someone, but I had to call the Grand Junction office. The DC office wasn’t even taking messages. So try pulling up a list of all the offices and calling the obscure ones.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:47:42am
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Belafon  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:47:50am

re: #716 EmmaAnne

I was able to to reach Cory Gardner’s office and actually talk to someone, but I had to call the Grand Junction office. The DC office wasn’t even taking messages. So try pulling up a list of all the offices and calling the obscure ones.

I’m calling the Texas offices. I figure calling local would be better than DC.

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The Vicious Babushka  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:49:51am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:50:22am

Senate Republicans are postponing a final vote on controversial Education Secretary nominee Betsy DeVos until Monday.

Senior Republican aides acknowledged there will be an “attendance issue” preventing a vote from happening Saturday, but said it has nothing to do with the GOP fundraising treat a group of senators plan to attend starting Friday in Florida.

The National Republican Senatorial Committee’s (NRSC) fundraising event this weekend is at The Breakers hotel in Palm Beach.

The Senate is expected to vote Friday morning to end a Democratic filibuster of DeVos and advance her nomination to final vote. Leadership could bring up a final vote as soon as Saturday if they wanted, as Senate rules usually require 30 hours to elapse after a filibuster-ending cloture vote.

But the final confirmation vote will likely be pushed into next week, freeing up GOP senators to meet with donors at the luxury hotel, where a guest room with a view of the ocean costs $699 a night.

Two senior GOP aides said NRSC Chairman Sen. Cory Gardner (R-Colo.) was willing to reschedule the retreat, and the attendance problem preventing a Saturday vote is due to a senator who has a “family issue.”

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Moebym  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:53:37am

You may be as shocked as I am.

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Myron Falwell  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:54:02am

re: #720 Backwoods_Sleuth

The National Republican Senatorial Committee’s (NRSC) fundraising event this weekend is at The Breakers hotel in Palm Beach.

I’ve got a feeling that this fundraiser will go over with the populace about as well as the one in Philadelphia last weekend.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:54:07am

.@PressSec won’t rule out military action against Iran

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:54:48am
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jaunte  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:55:35am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:57:54am
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Belafon  Feb 2, 2017 • 10:58:33am

re: #725 jaunte

Need to figure out how related all of this is, see: #625:

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gocart mozart  Feb 2, 2017 • 11:02:38am
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Decatur Deb  Feb 2, 2017 • 11:06:46am

re: #726 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Alternate Success.

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sagehen  Feb 2, 2017 • 12:15:41pm

re: #440 MsJ

And people are saying they’d switch from D to R to vote for him. Like voting for fucking celebrities hasn’t shown to be a fucking disaster.

We’re done. There’s no coming back from this level of stupidity. If there is even something to come back to.

Shoot me in the head.

Not a native-born citizen.

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Birth Control Works  Feb 2, 2017 • 1:02:41pm

going to make coffee and binge watch some thing on Netflix that makes more sense than reality.

bbl


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