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This Earth Day, April 22, Earth Day Network and the March for Science are co-organizing a rally and teach-in on the National Mall in Washington, D.C. The day’s program will include speeches and trainings with scientists and civic organizers, musical performances, and a march through the streets of Washington, D.C. The crowd will gather at 8:00am, and the teach-in will begin at 09:00am.

Our so-called president Donald Trump has been devastating government science resources, but today his people had the nerve to release this dishonest statement:

We should remember that vigorous science depends not on ideology, but on a spirit of honest inquiry and robust debate.

The sheer hypocrisy of that sentence boggles the mind, as Trump is reportedly getting ready to withdraw the US from the Paris climate change accords for purely ideological reasons.

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303 comments

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 22, 2017 • 11:02:02am

Hey boss. Typo re: “fovernment”.

Re: topic/vid - awesome to see.

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BigPapa  Apr 22, 2017 • 11:15:38am

That statement is a complete farce of sublime doublespeak. Our country is being run by wingnut blog comment section cretins that are getting more refined in the crafting of refined ideological bullshit.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 22, 2017 • 11:20:14am

Wife-creature is down on then Mall for the march. I, on the other hand, am not. Crappy, crappy weather here in DC, not feeling great, and I hate crowds. But, I am there in spirit.

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Anymouse  Apr 22, 2017 • 11:20:38am

Still reading that old creation/evolution thread.

It seems that our esteemed host Mr. Johnson approved a person who had a name solely consisting of an apostrophe (‘), which caused quite a bit of vexation amongst those in the thread. (Some posited it was Charles Johnson himself, going in that way as a sock-puppet to downvote all the pro-creationism posts. They really were paranoid in 2008.)

I just came across a comment that reminded me of a discussion I had on Yahoo Answers in its religion section - I was accused of being gay because of the way I write. (I wasn’t aware there was a gay writing style.)

This apostrophe person got accused of being a liberal:

2129 haakondahl
Apr 21, 2008 • 8:58:58am

re: #2104 ‘

As amusing as it would be to play with the idea, I am not Charles, and have no more connection with him than most other LGF posters.

Dang—you can’t even climb down without pissing me off. You talk like a liberal, you know that? A University liberal. With a graduate degree.

A “university liberal” seems like a terrible insult /s

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wrenchwench  Apr 22, 2017 • 11:20:42am
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wrenchwench  Apr 22, 2017 • 11:22:28am

re: #3 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Wife-creature is down on then Mall for the march. I, on the other hand, am now. Crappy, crappy weather here in DC, not feeling great, and I hate crowds. But, I there in spirit.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 22, 2017 • 11:22:47am

re: #3 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Wife-creature is down on then Mall for the march. I, on the other hand, am now. Crappy, crappy weather here in DC, not feeling great, and I hate crowds. But, I there in spirit.

I am down here in northern central Virginia thinking about how deary it is.

I don’t march. I hate crowds too and it also would require a little energy on my part. :)

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 22, 2017 • 11:24:28am

re: #4 Anymouse

Because you probably (possibly) came to this thread before getting to the bottom of the last one.

re: #291 Anymouse

Still ploughing through that old creationism/evolution thread … up to comment #1950, where the arguments devolve into racism.

Take a break, this cannot be good for your health, anyone’s health. It’s probably bad for Felix’s health.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 22, 2017 • 11:25:58am

re: #4 Anymouse

With a dastardly graduate degree no less.

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BigPapa  Apr 22, 2017 • 11:28:12am

re: #4 Anymouse

I just came across a comment that reminded me of a discussion I had on Yahoo Answers in its religion section - I was accused of being gay because of the way I write. (I wasn’t aware there was a gay writing style.)

Ha ha. Anything can be gay. My keyboard seems a little sassy sometimes.

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Anymouse  Apr 22, 2017 • 11:30:07am

re: #8 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Oh, I think it’s fun to read. (The creation/evolution debate, not the Nazi apologetics.)

I have no science march to attend, so a creation/evolution debate works for me.

As for Felix Randomkitty, we’ll hear more on him Monday (assuming something drastic doesn’t happen this weekend). He is supposed to get that compounded steroid drug either today or Monday (depending on when the compounding pharmacy can get it to the vet). The veterinarian is concerned because one of the drugs in the compound can aggravate diabetes.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 22, 2017 • 11:37:50am
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Anymouse  Apr 22, 2017 • 11:47:06am

Someone in that thread (I am finally getting to the end of it) noted just how long it was (at this point, I am past comment 2,200) and thought that was possibly the longest thread ever written here. Another person noted that a thread about Terri Schaivo was far longer and more angst-ridden - I think I’ll leave that thread for another day.

It is interesting to read about the evolution of Little Green Footballs though. This was quite a different place many years ago. Mr. Johnson (regardless of his political positions during the long tenure of the site) has put an awful lot of work into this place to make it as easy to use as possible.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2017 • 11:48:28am
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ObserverArt  Apr 22, 2017 • 11:48:50am

I guess the march was pretty much ending when the video was posted. Anyone have any idea how successful it was in DC?

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Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2017 • 11:48:52am
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Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2017 • 11:51:20am
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Anymouse  Apr 22, 2017 • 11:52:09am

LOL. That thread got so long a wag made a humorous request to Mr. Johnson about site maintenance:

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itellu3times
Apr 21, 2008 • 4:32:32pm

Hey Charles, it took my browser almost 30 seconds of CPU-bound processing on IE6, 2.4ghz single-core Pentium, to load this thread.

It will probably take almost another 30 seconds to unload it.

Anything you can do about that? Like, evolve the code a little bit, or do a little bit of intelligent design on it? Thanx.

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ObserverArt  Apr 22, 2017 • 11:53:09am

re: #17 Charles Johnson

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Is this one of those taking the words too literally things…again?

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Dizzy  Apr 22, 2017 • 11:53:18am

re: #13 Anymouse

The thing that keeps me reading this site is not Mr. Johnson’s politics, they evolve just like mine, but his integrity.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2017 • 11:59:11am
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Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2017 • 11:59:55am
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Anymouse  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:01:33pm

re: #20 Dizzy

The thing that keeps me reading this site is not Mr. Johnson’s politics, they evolve just like mine, but his integrity.

I’ve noted the same about Mr. Johnson. (Hence, I sent along some of my SorosBux to support the site. /s) While he may have held different political positions over the years, he has never to my knowledge attempted to support or oppose a position without evidence. Even in some of the old posts I’ve read here, his issues were about the truth as he saw it, and the evidence he could find to support his positions.

That is worthy of respect. And when Mr. Johnson found certain positions lacking, he changed his positions. That takes integrity.

Like the comment just up the thread about Mr. Trump’s lawyers arguing about free speech issues in the suit against him. Mr. Johnson cited the actual court filing, and those on Twitter now trying to claim Mr. Johnson was somehow lying about Mr. Trump are getting slagged, and rightfully so.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:01:39pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:05:55pm
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scottslemmons  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:08:41pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

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Where to protest? America is a free speech zone.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:08:43pm

Could have fooled me.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:10:40pm
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Joe Bacon  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:12:19pm

The stupid never stops with these Trumpettes!

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Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:13:29pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:16:13pm

Seems like this person (as well others) is still trying real hard to justify voting for the Orange Blob. Too late. There was no justification and there remains none. Own up.

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Belafon  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:17:24pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

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I would also like to note their argument that campaign rallies are private. They are not. Trump became a politician when he chose to run for office.

But that’s also beside the point that Trump was inciting people to violence.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:18:16pm

re: #31 ObserverArt

Seems like this person (as well others) are still trying real hard to justify voting for the Orange Blob. Too late. There was no justification and there remains none. Own up.

This is the end result after 40 years of brainwashing from the GOP 24/7 Bullshit Machine!

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Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:18:35pm
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Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:19:45pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

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Could have fooled me.

Every single fucking time any of these pinheads bleats that they want “unbiased” journalism, what they really mean is “journalism that is biased towards my own preconceptions & ignorance.”

There is no such thing as unbiased journalism. Nor should there be. “The view from nowhere” is inherently untenable & misinforming. It leads to the bland he-said, she-said that has led us to our current fact-free political system.

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BigPapa  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:20:45pm

Wowzers. Maddie is dense. Sub par intellect over compensating with large ego.

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William Lewis  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:20:58pm

re: #35 Khal Wimpo (wounded at Bowling Green)

Every single fucking time any of these pinheads bleats that they want “unbiased” journalism, what they really mean is “journalism that is biased towards my own preconceptions & ignorance.”

There is no such thing as unbiased journalism. Nor should there be. “The view from nowhere” is inherently untenable & misinforming. It leads to the bland he-said, she-said that has led us to our current fact-free political system.

I always liked Hunter Thompson’s take - the only unbiased journalism is the box score.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:21:54pm

re: #36 BigPapa

Wowzers. Maddie is dense. Sub par intellect over compensating with large ego.

While pretending to be an understanding and contemplative trollop

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mmmirele  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:22:34pm

Mark Halperin is complaining that he was seated next to a dog with a bow tie, in what looks like first class on Delta.

And a response:

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ObserverArt  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:24:32pm

re: #39 mmmirele

Mark Halperin is complaining that he was seated next to a dog with a bow tie, in what looks like first class on Delta.

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Poor dog.

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:26:56pm

re: #39 mmmirele

Mark Halperin is complaining that he was seated next to a dog with a bow tie, in what looks like first class on Delta.

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Looks like the premise of a zany comedy where Tucker Carlson gets a body swap with a lovable dog. Or maybe the dog is kind of a dick.

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stpaulbear  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:28:58pm

re: #39 mmmirele

Delta should have strapped the dog to the roof.

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Skip Intro  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:29:11pm

re: #39 mmmirele

I thought Halperin only flew on Trump Air.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:29:20pm

re: #39 mmmirele

Mark Halperin is complaining that he was seated next to a dog with a bow tie, in what looks like first class on Delta.

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I am sure the dog could offer a deeper analysis of the 2016 election than Halperin.

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allegro  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:30:03pm

re: #39 mmmirele

Mark Halperin is complaining that he was seated next to a dog with a bow tie, in what looks like first class on Delta.

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15/10 would pet, snuggle, and kiss.

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makeitstop  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:32:19pm

re: #39 mmmirele

Mark Halperin is complaining that he was seated next to a dog with a bow tie, in what looks like first class on Delta.

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He’s getting roasted on the thread. People don’t like him much.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:32:59pm

re: #42 stpaulbear

Delta should have strapped the dog to the roof.

No. They should have done that to Halperin!

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Anymouse  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:34:27pm

re: #39 mmmirele

Mark Halperin is complaining that he was seated next to a dog with a bow tie, in what looks like first class on Delta.

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Did someone turn Tucker Carlson into a dog? /s

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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:35:14pm

re: #39 mmmirele

What kind of pathetic dicksack complains about being seated next to such a suave, sophisticated dog?

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Joe Bacon  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:36:03pm
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Jebediah, RBG  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:36:06pm

re: #45 allegro

15/10 would pet, snuggle, and kiss.

H*ckin right!

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makeitstop  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:37:15pm

re: #48 Anymouse

Did someone turn Tucker Carlson into a dog? /s

That would honestly be a significant improvement.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:37:17pm

re: #45 allegro

15/10 would pet, snuggle, and kiss.

I’m guessing someone has already said, “they’re good dogs, Mark”?

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BigPapa  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:37:28pm

Wait.. are you saying Mark Halperin is Tucker Carlson’s dog? Or dawg? Or the other way around?

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Skip Intro  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:38:09pm

LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME!!!!!

Donald Trump Announces Rally On Same Night As White House Correspondents Dinner

Trump supporters only. Others will be beaten up and arrested.

huffingtonpost.com

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ObserverArt  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:38:45pm

re: #46 makeitstop

He’s getting roasted on the thread. People don’t like him much.

Halperin should be glad the dog didn’t bite him.

I would have.

Pooch showed restraint.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:39:46pm

re: #55 Skip Intro

LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME!!!!!

Donald Trump Announces Rally On Same Night As White House Correspondents Dinner

Trump supporters only. Others will be beaten up and arrested.

huffingtonpost.com

From the same asshole who constantly complains about protesters by saying “the election’s over”.

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ObserverArt  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:42:07pm

re: #55 Skip Intro

LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME!!!!!

Donald Trump Announces Rally On Same Night As White House Correspondents Dinner

Trump supporters only. Others will be beaten up and arrested.

huffingtonpost.com

Trump: “There will be NO JOKES!!!

And don’t talk about my money…or my complete lack of understanding of the job of the office.

Or my family. The kids are off limits.

Outside that, join me as I praise myself and bash on Obama and the Clinton’s.”

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:42:47pm

Tries to cover his ass

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Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:45:13pm

The great thing is, you know Halperin won’t get this reference at all.

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stpaulbear  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:45:23pm

re: #55 Skip Intro

LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME!!!!!

Donald Trump Announces Rally On Same Night As White House Correspondents Dinner

Trump supporters only. Others will be beaten up and arrested.

huffingtonpost.com

I bet he forgot that Samantha Bee is having an event the same night. I bet no one pays any attention to Trump’s ‘event’.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:45:40pm

re: #58 ObserverArt

Trump: “There will be NO JOKES!!!

And don’t talk about my money…or my complete lack of understanding of the job of the office.

Or my family. The kids are off limits.

Outside that, join me as I praise myself and bash on Obama and the Clinton’s.”

When I first read that I saw “bash on Obama and the clitoris”, which would also be fitting.

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ObserverArt  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:47:00pm

I think we can use Halperin’s own words once used by him against Obama.

Halperin is kind of a dick.

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scottslemmons  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:47:40pm

re: #39 mmmirele

Mark Halperin is complaining that he was seated next to a dog with a bow tie, in what looks like first class on Delta.

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I think I was about the billionth person to say “He’s a good dog, Murk” and tag DogRates…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:47:55pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:48:03pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:48:57pm

re: #60 Charles Johnson

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The great thing is, you know Halperin won’t get this reference at all.

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Skip Intro  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:49:40pm

re: #60 Charles Johnson

I would pay to sit next to that dog. I would also pay not to sit next to Halperin.

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makeitstop  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:50:07pm

re: #64 scottslemmons

I think I was about the billionth person to say “He’s a good dog, Murk” and tag DogRates…

I love calling that asshole ‘Murk.’

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Timothy Watson  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:50:43pm

re: #68 Skip Intro

I would pay to sit next to that dog. I would also pay not to sit next to Halperin.

Don’t give the airlines any ideas. They’re add a special “Not near Halperin” ticket class.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:50:55pm
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makeitstop  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:52:03pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

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That woman certainly puts the ‘mad’ in ‘Maddie.’

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Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:54:02pm
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scottslemmons  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:54:18pm

re: #72 makeitstop

That woman certainly puts the ‘mad’ in ‘Maddie.’

I mute/blocked her as soon as I saw what she was posting. Not worth spending much time tweeting at her.

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Belafon  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:54:39pm

A question for Charles, or anyone else that has an answer: I would like to load an image from my phone into my image library here, but if I try to do it on the phone the picture is way too big. Is there some way to scale the picture on the phone (android) or when it’s being uploaded, something that took the image, a jpg, and scaled it down by percentage until it’s small enough to upload?

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stpaulbear  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:55:19pm

re: #72 makeitstop

That woman certainly puts the ‘mad’ in ‘Maddie.’

Moronie.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:55:58pm
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ObserverArt  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:56:15pm

re: #72 makeitstop

That woman certainly puts the ‘mad’ in ‘Maddie.’

So, she joined in November 2016.

I’m not a twitter user, but isn’t that like a warning sign for being so eager a Trumpian?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:58:20pm

something for ggt:

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Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2017 • 12:59:27pm

re: #75 Belafon

A question for Charles, or anyone else that has an answer: I would like to load an image from my phone into my image library here, but if I try to do it on the phone the picture is way too big. Is there some way to scale the picture on the phone (android) or when it’s being uploaded, something that took the image, a jpg, and scaled it down by percentage until it’s small enough to upload?

You’ll need to install an app to scale the image before uploading - this one seems to be decent but there are lots of other choices at Google Play: play.google.com

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BlueGrl21  Apr 22, 2017 • 1:02:46pm

There were a TON of doggies at our march in Houston. The 12 year-old was in sheer bliss with the dogs. My 14 year old science and engineering geek was feeling the bliss of being around his tribe and marching with them.

Lots and lots of kids there, lots of families. My favorite was a little girl, about 8 or 9, dressed in all pink, including her cowboy boots. Her sign said, “It’s better to be a scientist than a princess.”

Crowd was very big. Not quite as large as the women’s march, but pretty close.

As someone posted earlier, not attending the marches does not mean a lack of support for our scientists at all. It’s just some people like to march and I happen to be one of them. We knew so, so many people were behind what we were saying.

Oh, and fuck Donald Trump. I was good the WHOLE MARCH. But now I can say it. He can kiss my red-headed uppity Texas liberal female COMPUTER SCIENTIST ass.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2017 • 1:04:53pm
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BigPapa  Apr 22, 2017 • 1:05:23pm

Not sure if Photoshop, checking Snopes:

Assholes in the White House
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2017 • 1:07:05pm

The #MarchForScience in Chicago. Amazing. 💙💚

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2017 • 1:08:51pm

re: #84 Backwoods_Sleuth

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40,000 people, according to NBC Chicago.

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Joe Bacon  Apr 22, 2017 • 1:09:15pm

re: #83 BigPapa

Not sure if Photoshop, checking Snopes:

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The only thing missing from that is the opening to Hee Haw!

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 22, 2017 • 1:09:29pm

OT: I made an appointment with Apple this morning and they helped me change my Apple ID and a few other items. My migration to gmail is almost complete. And the odd thing is Verizon today just made its announcement that they are getting out of the email business.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2017 • 1:13:54pm
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Skip Intro  Apr 22, 2017 • 1:15:24pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2017 • 1:16:16pm

This #EarthDay watch views of our planet from 250 miles up on the space station in its full 4K glory on YouTube: Earth Day 2017 - 4K Earth Views From Space

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plansbandc  Apr 22, 2017 • 1:17:54pm

re: #36 BigPapa

It’s really not that hard to understand, if you’re not Maddie anyway.

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Belafon  Apr 22, 2017 • 1:18:42pm

re: #80 Charles Johnson

You’ll need to install an app to scale the image before uploading - this one seems to be decent but there are lots of other choices at Google Play: play.google.com

Thanks.

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wrenchwench  Apr 22, 2017 • 1:21:57pm

re: #84 Backwoods_Sleuth

[The MarchForScience in Chicago]

Just checked the book of the Face to be sure my brother is there. He is. (Searching for his big head was not effective in that crowd.)

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freetoken  Apr 22, 2017 • 1:24:56pm

The never ending howl of the prairie winds, punctuated by the call of a single bird:

Bison Calving - Grasslands National Park powered by EXPLORE.org

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PhillyPretzel  Apr 22, 2017 • 1:25:10pm

Here is an article from Newsworks (dot) org on the Philly March for Science. We had Ben Franklin in ours. newsworks.org

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2017 • 1:26:04pm
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goddamnedfrank  Apr 22, 2017 • 1:35:55pm

re: #96 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2017 • 1:38:42pm

re: #97 goddamnedfrank

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“bootie licker”….

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Donkey With No Name  Apr 22, 2017 • 1:39:36pm

re: #59 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Tries to cover his ass

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You can see the owner’s knees in both pictures.

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A Cranky One  Apr 22, 2017 • 1:40:39pm

re: #75 Belafon

A question for Charles, or anyone else that has an answer: I would like to load an image from my phone into my image library here, but if I try to do it on the phone the picture is way too big. Is there some way to scale the picture on the phone (android) or when it’s being uploaded, something that took the image, a jpg, and scaled it down by percentage until it’s small enough to upload?

On my Android, if you email a picture it will ask you if you want to reduce the size and offers several options. So I email the pics to myself, reducing the size and then upload from my email.

Adds a few extra steps but no cost and simple.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2017 • 1:43:12pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 22, 2017 • 1:45:10pm

re: #101 Charles Johnson

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He forgot to include “When those forests overlook one of my properties. When they don’t, my wealthy donors are free to clear-cut and strip-mine the fuck out of them.”

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lockjawcanbefun  Apr 22, 2017 • 1:46:04pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2017 • 1:46:39pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2017 • 1:48:43pm
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freetoken  Apr 22, 2017 • 1:49:09pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2017 • 1:50:34pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2017 • 1:52:46pm

Halperin is so full of shit…but that’s redundant…

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Mattand  Apr 22, 2017 • 1:54:48pm

So I had to look up who Mark Halperin was. The name was quasi-familiar.

Best summation after a grueling course at Wiki University: your basis Magic Balance Fairy acolyte who is considered nominally liberal but inexplicably was enraptured by Trump.

Is that close?

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Stanley Sea  Apr 22, 2017 • 1:54:58pm
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Anymouse  Apr 22, 2017 • 1:57:47pm

re: #110 Stanley Sea

Well, Mr. Trump did say he wished he could have earned a Purple Heart.

I might have suggested had I heard that he could have not dodged the draft, but I wouldn’t wish the Vietnam War on anyone, not even him.

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Mattand  Apr 22, 2017 • 1:58:07pm

re: #110 Stanley Sea

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You just know Trump was bragging to a soldier who had to get fucking shot in combat about the Purple Heart someone gave him at one of the rallies, once the press was neutralized.

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petesh  Apr 22, 2017 • 2:05:24pm

re: #81 BlueGrl21

Quite a few dogs in Santa Cruz, too, which is particularly excellent because the march ended up in a park where theoretically dogs are not allowed. No humans or dogs were harmed during the course of this production (as far as I saw, anyway).

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Mattand  Apr 22, 2017 • 2:06:18pm

re: #109 Mattand

I’m also getting the impression Halperin was a pants wetter over HER EMAILS, DUN DUN DUN.

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makeitstop  Apr 22, 2017 • 2:08:25pm

re: #114 Mattand

I’m also getting the impression Halperin was a pants wetter over HER EMAILS, DUN DUN DUN.

He’s the guy who called Obama ‘kind of a dick’ live on DNN. He should have been fired outright for that IMO.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2017 • 2:08:46pm

re: #109 Mattand

So I had to look up who Mark Halperin was. The name was quasi-familiar.

Best summation after a grueling course at Wiki University: your basis Magic Balance Fairy acolyte who is considered nominally liberal but inexplicably was enraptured by Trump.

Is that close?

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freetoken  Apr 22, 2017 • 2:18:19pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

Just another person desperate to be a somebody, cozying up to someone more famous than himself.

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freetoken  Apr 22, 2017 • 2:21:25pm

The cult of celebrity is one of the more pernicious problems our society has.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 22, 2017 • 2:22:24pm

re: #84 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I was there. Learned that holding up a sign for hours doesn’t work — my arms got way too tired and the slow walk was too hard on my ancient back.

My 2 sided message:

Side 1: Climate science is not an alternative fact. Fund science, not the wall.
Side 2: Climate science is not fake news. Fund science not tax cuts for the 1%.

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Anymouse  Apr 22, 2017 • 2:22:53pm

re: #117 freetoken

Just another person desperate to be a somebody, cozying up to someone more famous than himself.

Who, Trump? /s

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ObserverArt  Apr 22, 2017 • 2:24:43pm

re: #117 freetoken

Just another person desperate to be a somebody, cozying up to someone more famous than himself.

I’m thinking Mark Halperin would say while he may not be as (in)famous as Trump, he is assuredly a somebody.

And one that shall not sit in the company of dogs…thankewveramuch.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2017 • 2:25:00pm
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Timothy Watson  Apr 22, 2017 • 2:34:49pm

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I had idiot wingnut coworkers who supported Trump and the border wall and quoted Frost’s “Good fences make good neighbors” line without knowing the context of the quote.

Fucking morons.

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Belafon  Apr 22, 2017 • 2:37:29pm

Has Chaffetz actually resigned?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2017 • 2:43:38pm
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Jay C  Apr 22, 2017 • 2:44:04pm

re: #124 Belafon

Has Chaffetz actually resigned?

No. I think he’s merely announced that he won’t be running for reelection next year.

I’d say “too bad it isn’t immediate”, but it IS Utah, who knows who/what might replace him.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2017 • 2:44:39pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2017 • 2:48:23pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 22, 2017 • 2:51:21pm

I had the honor of a visit from her and Mr. klys when they were in my neighborhood. We did a ‘run’ together! She passed me three times, I think. (It was on a track, so we were still ‘together’.)

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 22, 2017 • 2:52:37pm

I suppose it’s no surprise but still a great contrast- At the science marcg there are few misspellings, but lots of hand made signs. Shows us smart, thought through and not backed by some political lobby.

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Belafon  Apr 22, 2017 • 2:56:45pm

re: #127 Backwoods_Sleuth

Someone who has no clue how scientific research or corporations work:

Do they think any company would fund Einstein’s research?

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mmmirele  Apr 22, 2017 • 2:57:40pm

The Arizona DOT ran a contest for the overhead freeway signs. Here are the winners, being showcased on signs around town over the weekend:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2017 • 2:59:45pm

re: #131 Belafon

Someone who has no clue how scientific research or corporations work:

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Do they think any company would fund Einstein’s research?

yeah, because private sector is all about spending money on R&D for potential altruistic ends…

*spit*

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wrenchwench  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:03:46pm
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freetoken  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:03:51pm

re: #131 Belafon

It’s the typical “libertarian” mantra.

“Private sector” is nothing more than a religious statement, about repeating memes in the hope that repetition brings magic.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:06:34pm

re: #135 freetoken

It’s the typical “libertarian” mantra.

“Private sector” is nothing more than a religious statement, about repeating memes in the hope that repetition brings magic.

Exactly. In the end, corporations will do what’s good for the corporation. Honestly, I’ve always thought it was funny as hell that there’s always this “government hands off” until it’s something like the military. The government can, should, and always has been involved with innovation. The government helped pay for the railroad expansion of the 19th century.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:09:07pm

What conservatives and libertarians don’t dare admit is this. We are the government and the government is us. That soldier you salute, yep he’s the government. That cop whose live you say matters. Yep, he’s the government. That firefighter, yep government. That teacher or professor who helped you in school, very likely yes.

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electrotek  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:11:55pm

Jesus Christ, how daft can Turkish nationalists get?

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Timothy Watson  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:12:21pm

re: #135 freetoken

It’s the typical “libertarian” mantra.

“Private sector” is nothing more than a religious statement, about repeating memes in the hope that repetition brings magic.

A central tenet of Austrian-school economics is that data can’t prove Austrian economic theory to be incorrect.

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Anymouse  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:13:39pm

re: #137 HappyWarrior

What conservatives and libertarians don’t dare admit is this. We are the government and the government is us. That soldier you salute, yep he’s the government. That cop whose live you say matters. Yep, he’s the government. That firefighter, yep government. That teacher or professor who helped you in school, very likely yes.

And the voter who casts a ballot, he’s the government. The friend who helps you with your groceries, she’s the government.

The government is not some amorphous entity that exists in a mythical “beltway” on the Maryland-Virginia border. The government is everyone, which is the essence of a democratic republic.

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wrenchwench  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:15:03pm

Link goes to their YouTube channel.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:17:08pm
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Timothy Watson  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:18:30pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

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WTF is the “context” to that tweet?

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freetoken  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:18:54pm

re: #139 Timothy Watson

A central tenet of Austrian-school economics is that data can’t prove Austrian economic theory to be incorrect.

Which is why it’s part of the same package as presuppositional apologetics, used by the Dominionists.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:19:28pm

re: #143 Timothy Watson

WTF is the “context” to that tweet?

Hannity somehow believes that he’s a real player on the world stage of espionage.

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EmmaAnne  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:20:05pm

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:21:36pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:22:52pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:25:47pm

The pup sounds like a bird.

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Skip Intro  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:26:04pm

re: #124 Belafon

Has Chaffetz actually resigned?

I think he’s fielding offers of who to sell influence to before he leaves.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:26:33pm

re: #142 Charles Johnson

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What a pathetic baby.

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Anymouse  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:27:11pm
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HappyWarrior  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:27:58pm

re: #143 Timothy Watson

WTF is the “context” to that tweet?

I imagine he’s whining about the fact that Trump associates were monitored. Sean, you ignorant fool, these guys were associating with the officials of the Russian government. Of course, they were monitored. Maybe Lumpy’s got a guilty conscience here. I just love how Mr. I Agreed to be Waterboarded is outraged by this.

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wrenchwench  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:29:54pm

This is the Data I always think of first:

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HappyWarrior  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:29:58pm

re: #140 Anymouse

And the voter who casts a ballot, he’s the government. The friend who helps you with your groceries, she’s the government.

The government is not some amorphous entity that exists in a mythical “beltway” on the Maryland-Virginia border. The government is everyone, which is the essence of a democratic republic.

Exactly. They’ve created this mythical Beltway in Washington’s border but ignoring that the government is everywhere. My dad’s father actually spent much of his professional career away from Washington. My dad’s family only arrived here in the DC area when my grandfather got a promotion to the NLRB’s national field office but before that, he was like Hank Snow and had been everywhere man. Well not everywhere but he had been in many different cities.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:30:29pm

re: #148 Backwoods_Sleuth

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With apologies to that awesome dinosaur above, these fellas win the day.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:30:31pm

This got posted downstairs and I forgot to respond to it:

So where does Briganti fit in to all this? Tantaros alleges that Briganti directed Konst to post the tweet in order to make Tantaros look bad in anticipation of a separate “imminent lawsuit” from Tantaros against Disruptor, Inc. and Peter A. Snyder. Tantaros claims that in that situation, Snyder and Disruptor were behind “a disgraceful social media campaign for Fox News against Tantaros,” including the use of fake “sock puppet” accounts, at the behest of Fox News president Bill Shine.

Peter A. Synder, better known as Pete Synder, is pretty well-known in Virginia politics.

He ran unsuccessfully for Lieutenant Governor in 2013 (losing the GOP nomination to E.W. Jackson). He’s current Ed Gillespie’s campaign chairman.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:33:28pm

re: #157 Timothy Watson

This got posted downstairs and I forgot to respond to it:

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Peter A. Synder, better known as Pete Synder, is pretty well-known in Virginia politics.

He ran unsuccessfully for Lieutenant Governor in 2013 (losing the GOP nomination to E.W. Jackson). He’s current Ed Gillespie’s campaign chairman.

I feel ignorant for not knowing who Snyder is. Anyhow. GIllespie sure knows how to pick em doesn’t he? On an OT note, I spent some time earlier today canvassing for a delegate candidate here in the 33rd. Sucky day to do it since it was all wet. I feel like such an old man though. The volunteer I drove with is ten years younger than me. Nice kid.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:33:33pm

The March for Science looks like a bigger success than we had hoped. These photos are from the FB March for Science group.
They’re bustin’ out all over:

Monroe, Louisiana

McMurdo Station, Antarctica:

US Embassy, Seoul South Korea:

Staunton VA.

Cathay Pacific somewhere over the South China Sea:

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HappyWarrior  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:35:35pm

I’m going to the immigration march in a couple weeks with my SiL’s older sister and her husband. My plan for a sign is simple. I’m going to write the words We are all immigrants in English in the middle with translations of that phrase in the four languages of the nations I have ancestry in the corner.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:36:30pm

re: #159 Shiplord Kirel

The March for Science looks like a bigger success than we had hoped. These photos are from the FB March for Science group.
They’re bustin’ out all over:

Monroe, Louisiana

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Staunton, Va? Good show! THat area is very conservative.

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Shiplord Kirel  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:37:54pm

re: #161 HappyWarrior

Staunton, Va? Good show! THat area is very conservative.

Had about 50 people in fact. Here is another shot:

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Skip Intro  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:37:55pm

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HappyWarrior  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:39:34pm

re: #162 Shiplord Kirel

Had about 50 people in fact. Here is another shot:

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That’s awesome.

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electrotek  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:39:41pm

For some reason, I can’t post tweets. What’s going on? I’m confused.

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Timothy Watson  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:39:59pm

re: #158 HappyWarrior

I feel ignorant for not knowing who Snyder is. Anyhow. GIllespie sure knows how to pick em doesn’t he? On an OT note, I spent some time earlier today canvassing for a delegate candidate here in the 33rd. Sucky day to do it since it was all wet. I feel like such an old man though. The volunteer I drove with is ten years younger than me. Nice kid.

Heh, I have a thing for remembering failed candidates and trivia like that. :)

Yeah, I felt a little old when interacting with the organizers on the Clinton campaign. Most were about 5 years younger than me, only one was older IIRC.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:40:29pm

heh…
re: #165 electrotek

For some reason, I can’t post tweets. What’s going on? I’m confused.

me, too.
must be a twitter rage against science….

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wrenchwench  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:40:30pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:40:46pm
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Timothy Watson  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:41:12pm

re: #162 Shiplord Kirel

Had about 50 people in fact. Here is another shot:

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I bet some are from Mary Baldwin University.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:42:29pm

re: #166 Timothy Watson

Heh, I have a thing for remembering failed candidates and trivia like that. :)

Yeah, I felt a little old when interacting with the organizers on the Clinton campaign. Most were about 5 years younger than, only one was older IIRC.

Aha! I had honestly forgotten Jackson had a opponent. But yeah, a lot of the volunteers here are in college or just fresh out. Nice kids all. I just feel like an old talking about the days when this state was reliably red.

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HappyWarrior  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:42:52pm

re: #170 Timothy Watson

I bet some are from Mary Baldwin University.

That would not shock me. I know a Mary Baldwin alumnus who I met in my GMU Days.

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Skip Intro  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:49:03pm

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Mattand  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:49:44pm

re: #116 Charles Johnson

In retrospect. I should have guessed a “liberal” journalist who throws a fit over a dog with a bow tie on a plane would have his head planted halfway up Trump’s exhaust pipe. -15/10 would rap on the nose with a copy of National Review.

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freetoken  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:50:20pm

Clearly all this demonstrating shows these folks have too much time on their hands… must be from all that largess they take from the hard working Americans.

Cut their funding!

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Skip Intro  Apr 22, 2017 • 3:50:35pm

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jaunte  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:00:52pm

re: #109 Mattand

So I had to look up who Mark Halperin was. The name was quasi-familiar.

Best summation after a grueling course at Wiki University: your basis Magic Balance Fairy acolyte who is considered nominally liberal but inexplicably was enraptured by Trump.

Is that close?

Also, not sharp enough to stay out of a popularity contest with a dog.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:04:11pm
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Skip Intro  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:06:04pm

re: #178 Backwoods_Sleuth

The two faces on the right look normal, but WTH is going on with Trump? His hair looks like straw, and his face - is he using a different color blusher?

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Skip Intro  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:07:19pm

re: #178 Backwoods_Sleuth

I wonder if Trump told him the story of how Trump earned his Purple Heart?

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:09:51pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:10:14pm

Hi again Lizards. I’m sort of back.

mr. klys starts a new job on Monday. My book will be released on Tuesday. We just did a ~two week road trip around the desert. I have four more magnets for the national park/monument fridge collection.

There’s still a big giant hole where the news hit. But I did get to trade hugs with a wrenchwench so that was pretty cool. I’ll have some pictures to dig out at some point. (It was asked above, but there’s a reason I post most of my photos these days via Twitter and it’s because I’m lazy and it does the resizing for me.)

Someone go unpack for me, I’m feeling lazy.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:13:54pm

re: #182 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Sorta welcome back.

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stpaulbear  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:15:04pm

Via Star/Tribune

Under brilliantly blue spring skies, at least 10,000 people congregated on the grounds of the Minnesota State Capitol Saturday to champion the role of science in American life.

Minnesota’s March for Science began at Cathedral Hill Park in St. Paul and culminated with a rally featuring impassioned pro-science speakers at the Minnesota State Capitol. The mood was peaceful and upbeat, with chants and signs, many of them whimsical in tone, expressing support for facts, education and science.

St. Paul police offered a crowd estimate of at least 10,000 people at about noon, and others poured in once the march arrived at the Capitol grounds.

In addition to the St. Paul rally, 12 others took place in Minnesota, from New Ulm to Grand Marais, in concert with a massive national march in Washington, D.C., and more than 500 others around the world.

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Skip Intro  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:15:26pm

re: #180 Skip Intro

I wonder if Trump told him the story of how Trump earned his Purple Heart?

For the record.

“I said to him, ‘Is that like the real one, or is that a copy?” the Republican nominee said moments after taking the stage at a local high school.

Trump recounted the exchange, remarking that the man, who he identified as retired Lt. Col. Louis Dorfman said, “That’s my real Purple Heart. I have such confidence in you.”

“And I said, ‘Man, that’s like big stuff. I always wanted to get the Purple Heart,” Trump said. “This was much easier.”

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:17:03pm

re: #183 thedopefishlives

Sorta welcome back.

The cats welcomed us home with 3 hairballs.

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wrenchwench  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:17:25pm

re: #182 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Someone go unpack for me, I’m feeling lazy.

I could do it, but first you’d have to bring it all back down here.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:19:08pm
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stpaulbear  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:19:13pm

re: #185 Skip Intro

Somebody should go interview that guy. I wonder if he still has ‘such confidence’ in Trump. Given that he was enamored enough to give Trump his Purple Heart, I’d guess that he’s still a believer.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:19:23pm

re: #187 wrenchwench

I could do it, but first you’d have to bring it all back down here.

I wanna go hang out in your coffee shop to write my next book.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:20:27pm

re: #186 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The cats welcomed us home with 3 hairballs.

We can arrange for that.

[Cough.]

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:21:01pm

re: #191 thedopefishlives

We can arrange for that.

[Cough.]

I recommend not licking your cats. You don’t know where they’ve been!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:22:07pm
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thedopefishlives  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:23:57pm

re: #192 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I recommend not licking your cats. You don’t know where they’ve been!

On the contrary, I know exactly where they’ve been. Which is exactly why I would never imagine licking either of them.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:27:23pm

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

I beg to differ. The vaccine for stupid is a proper upbringing outside the wingularity.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:30:17pm
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Joe Bacon  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:31:09pm

re: #124 Belafon

Has Chaffetz actually resigned?

I’ve been looking and haven’t seen anything stating that the wimp has resigned yet…

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wrenchwench  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:34:11pm

re: #190 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I wanna go hang out in your coffee shop to write my next book.

The day after you met the proprietor, he had a sort of a breakdown from not sleeping. A guy saved him by taking over the counter-service the day he opened. Today is the first day he made my decaf latte himself. He said, ‘What?!? You’ve never ordered decaf anything!’ I’ll have to explain ‘sleep hygiene’ to him. As soon as I figure it out.

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Skip Intro  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:34:25pm

re: #189 stpaulbear

Somebody should go interview that guy. I wonder if he still has ‘such confidence’ in Trump. Given that he was enamored enough to give Trump his Purple Heart, I’d guess that he’s still a believer.

Katy Tur did look him up and asked him if he really gave Trump his original medal. He said no, it was a copy.

Lucky for him Trump can’t read or he’d sue him.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:35:36pm

re: #199 wrenchwench

The day after you met the proprietor, he had a sort of a breakdown from not sleeping. A guy saved him by taking over the counter-service the day he opened. Today is the first day he made my decaf latte himself. He said, ‘What?!? You’ve never ordered decaf anything!’ I’ll have to explain ‘sleep hygiene’ to him. As soon as I figure it out.

I can absolutely see that.

I was doing okay at the no caffeine thing and then I rediscovered diet cream soda and I’ve been drinking way too much of that recently and yeah.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:36:43pm

re: #201 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I can absolutely see that.

I was doing okay at the no caffeine thing and then I rediscovered diet cream soda and I’ve been drinking way too much of that recently and yeah.

After doing back-to-back Production deployments this week (among other work-related things that extended way too long into the evening hours), my blood is probably saturated with caffeine.

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Bubblehead II  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:39:45pm

Twin Falls, Idaho Science march. Hey, at least we had one.

magicvalley.com

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jaunte  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:41:23pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:42:13pm
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Timothy Watson  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:45:23pm

re: #171 HappyWarrior

Aha! I had honestly forgotten Jackson had a opponent. But yeah, a lot of the volunteers here are in college or just fresh out. Nice kids all. I just feel like an old talking about the days when this state was reliably red.

He had several. One was Susan Stimpson, formerly of the Stafford County Board of Supervisors, who also ran against Speaker Bill Howell for Delegate in 2015 I think it was.

She’s running again in the same district this year since he isn’t running for reelection.

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Skip Intro  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:45:59pm

re: #188 Backwoods_Sleuth

He’s done more than that. Playing 19 days of golf in less than 3 months is a new record.

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wrenchwench  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:46:29pm

re: #205 klys (maker of Silmarils)

re: #129 wrenchwench

[Researchers, fed up with attacks,
Went marching together in packs,
A nerdy alliance
Promoting good science
And real, non-alternative facts.]

I had the honor of a visit from her and Mr. klys when they were in my neighborhood. We did a ‘run’ together! She passed me three times, I think. (It was on a track, so we were still ‘together’.)

Beatcha!

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BeachDem  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:48:16pm

re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“before I build a wall I would want to know what I am walling in or walling out”

And the next line:

And to whom I was like to give offence.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:49:16pm

re: #208 wrenchwench

Beatcha!

I am but slow. ;)

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Joe Bacon  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:49:44pm
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lawhawk  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:53:53pm

re: #207 Skip Intro

Nope.

Eisenhower was a huge golf fan. He would end up playing around 800 times during his 2 terms. That works out to once nearly every 4 days.

Trump’s gunning for those totals though, and Trump simply doesn’t have the skills to do the job - so golf is his only out.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:54:39pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:55:23pm

re: #210 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I am but slow. ;)

If there is any justice, you get all the updings.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:55:41pm

re: #212 lawhawk

Nope.

Eisenhower was a huge golf fan. He would end up playing around 800 times during his 2 terms. That works out to once nearly every 4 days.

Trump’s gunning for those totals though, and Trump simply doesn’t have the skills to do the job - so golf is his only out.

I’ve said it before: I, personally, have no problem with Trump playing golf. As long as shit gets done, I don’t really care how he spends his down time. What I have a problem with is that he’s spending so much time and effort trying to hide it. If I thought he had a conscience, it seems like he actually feels guilty.

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Skip Intro  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:56:17pm

re: #211 Joe Bacon

Hannity is desperate to be able to claim victimhood here.

“Why wouldn’t you surveill me? Do you know who I am?”

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Joe Bacon  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:56:34pm

re: #206 Timothy Watson

He had several. One was Susan Stimpson, formerly of the Stafford County Board of Supervisors, who also ran against Speaker Bill Howell for Delegate in 2015 I think it was.

She’s running again in the same district this year since he isn’t running for reelection.

Hey is ol’ E. W. Jackass running again?

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Skip Intro  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:57:31pm

re: #212 lawhawk

Nope.

Eisenhower was a huge golf fan. He would end up playing around 800 times during his 2 terms. That works out to once nearly every 4 days.

Trump’s gunning for those totals though, and Trump simply doesn’t have the skills to do the job - so golf is his only out.

How much did he play in his first 90 days? That’s the record I’m looking for.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:57:51pm

re: #214 wrenchwench

If there is any justice, you get all the updings.

I’ll cheat and post a landscape photo. That’s always good for a few.

And if that doesn’t work here’s a baby giraffe. Which probably has been posted here before but is worth seeing again, dammit.

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darthstar  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:58:30pm

Don’t hate me.

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thedopefishlives  Apr 22, 2017 • 4:58:53pm

re: #220 darthstar

Thought about that, but decided against it at the last minute.

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calochortus  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:00:17pm

re: #220 darthstar

Don’t hate me.

[Embedded content]

I don’t hate you, but I’m also not going to drop by for dinner. Which, upon reflection, could be your intent.

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lawhawk  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:00:21pm

re: #220 darthstar

That’s not pizza, that’s an abomination.
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bratwurst  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:00:44pm
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thedopefishlives  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:00:58pm

re: #223 lawhawk

I’m giving you an upding for the Obama gif, but a downding for the caption.///

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:03:00pm

Also the day after the news about CL, I decided I wanted to go see something beautiful. In her memory, as it were, because she was always doing her best to recognize the beauty in the world, in people, everywhere.

So we did.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:03:44pm

re: #220 darthstar

Don’t hate me.

The sweet-spicy contrast is great on that pie.

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lawhawk  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:05:08pm

re: #225 thedopefishlives

Win some… lose some.

Life. Or something like it.

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bratwurst  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:05:41pm
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BeachDem  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:08:39pm

re: #174 Mattand

In retrospect. I should have guessed a “liberal” journalist who throws a fit over a dog with a bow tie on a plane would have his head planted halfway up Trump’s exhaust pipe. -15/10 would rap on the nose with a copy of National Review.

Sums up Halperin pretty well (I don’t think of him as a “liberal journalist” at all.)

In December 2011, Halperin was listed as #1 in salon.com’s 2011 Hack List, his reporting described as “shallow and predictable” as well as “both fixated solely on the horse race and also uniquely bad at analyzing the horse race.”

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darthstar  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:10:28pm

I get that pizza about every 4-5 years. And I was discussing going to Hawaii with my wife at the time, so I think it’s fine.

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lawhawk  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:11:11pm

re: #231 darthstar

Shit, why didn’t you say that in the first place!
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Stanley Sea  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:12:39pm

re: #231 darthstar

I get that pizza about every 4-5 years. And I was discussing going to Hawaii with my wife at the time, so I think it’s fine.

And you think about us every time.

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whitebeach  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:12:49pm

re: #220 darthstar

Don’t hate me.

[Embedded content]

It’s like they say, don’t hate the sinner, hate the sin.

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darthstar  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:13:06pm

re: #233 Stanley Sea

And you think about us every time.

True dat.

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darthstar  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:13:53pm

re: #234 whitebeach

It’s like they say, don’t hate the sinner, hate the sin.

It was delicious, actually. I enjoyed every bite.

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jaunte  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:13:54pm

re: #220 darthstar

Looks good!

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thedopefishlives  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:14:53pm

re: #236 darthstar

It was delicious, actually. I enjoyed every bite.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:15:58pm
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wrenchwench  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:16:25pm

Later, lizards.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:17:00pm

re: #240 wrenchwench

[Embedded content]

Later, lizards.

…clearly I earned my degree from the wrong university.

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jaunte  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:17:01pm

re: #239 Stanley Sea

Hannity starting to use fakenews as an adjective.

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darthstar  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:17:19pm
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thedopefishlives  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:17:28pm

re: #241 klys (maker of Silmarils)

…clearly I earned my degree from the wrong university.

Looks like I’m going back to school.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:18:10pm

re: #244 thedopefishlives

Looks like I’m going back to school.

…no. Not even for a sword.

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451_Montag  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:18:33pm

re: #239 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

He used unmasked. Methinks there may be a little panic there.

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BeachDem  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:19:12pm

Just want to thank everyone who’s posting science march signs. They are outstanding. (And all the people in the pics look so bright, and engaged, and SMART.)

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:19:41pm

re: #240 wrenchwench

[Embedded content]

Later, lizards.

I coulda had a sword?

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darthstar  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:19:57pm

re: #246 451_Montag

He used unmasked. Methinks there may be a little panic there.

Probably worried about some fetish porn he was in.

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Pawn of the Oppressor  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:20:17pm

re: #226 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Also the day after the news about CL, I decided I wanted to go see something beautiful. In her memory, as it were, because she was always doing her best to recognize the beauty in the world, in people, everywhere.

So we did.

[Embedded content]

Reminds me of this shot. Let me try a direct embed from Flickr (hope this works)

Flickr

Alone on the side of a broad, bare dune, was this piece of debris leaving an wind-eddy swirl in the sand. I couldn’t resist a chance to get “artsy”.

The ripples look just like sand ripples in shallow water at the beach. Same principle, different medium (wind instead of water).

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lawhawk  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:21:14pm

re: #247 BeachDem

It’s elemental:

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Barefoot Grin  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:22:02pm

re: #249 darthstar

Probably worried about some fetish porn he was in.

Or his long history of friendship with white supremacist types.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:22:22pm

re: #243 darthstar

[Embedded content]

And he was standing right next to the soldier who’s in a wheelchair missing a leg.

He is so fucking classless.

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lawhawk  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:24:26pm

re: #253 Stanley Sea

The soldiers were props.

Disposable heroes. It’s all about what the photos do for Trump. It’s not paying respect and honoring those who have given of themselves to defend our nation.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:26:40pm

re: #245 klys (maker of Silmarils)

…no. Not even for a sword.

My wife recently reminded me of my “I’m going to quit I can’t handle this shit anymore gahhhh” breakdown I had while I was writing my dissertation. You are so right, never ever never again.

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teleskiguy  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:27:51pm

re: #220 darthstar

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teleskiguy  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:30:16pm
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thedopefishlives  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:31:05pm

re: #257 teleskiguy

I think this is what gets me most about the anti-science types. Science is actively making our lives better and longer. You really want to put a stop to that? What the actual fuck?

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:32:51pm

Welp, it’s one of those days where you get charmed into making 150 tacos for a fundraiser.

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jaunte  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:33:45pm

re: #226 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I had a thought about a similar image; it reminded me of the quote on her twitter page: “The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.”

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teleskiguy  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:34:13pm

re: #259 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

That’s a lot of tacos.

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Skip Intro  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:34:44pm

re: #242 jaunte

Hannity starting to use fakenews as an adjective.

I’m wondering what he was unmasked about. Tell us more, Sean.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:34:45pm

RE: Science - I believe this is on tonight. Gotta look.

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teleskiguy  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:36:30pm
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jaunte  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:36:42pm

re: #262 Skip Intro

All the cool kids are getting unmasked. If he isn’t among them, does he count?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:37:23pm

re: #84 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s no surprise Chicago has such a big-arse turnout-in addition to the universities, tech and Big Pharma firms based there, Chicagoland is home to Argonne National Laboratory and Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory.

Argonne and Fermi do some real hardcore base and applied shit there. As a matter of fact, DPS 2017 will be held at Fermilab in honor of their 50th anniversary.

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Skip Intro  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:38:30pm

re: #265 jaunte

All the cool kids are getting unmasked. If he isn’t among them, does he count?

I think he’s embarrassed that no one has accused him of sexual harassment at Fox. All his Trumper friends are laughing at him.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:40:23pm
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Birth Control Works  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:43:09pm

What Is the New Inquiry?

$2 Subscription

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Birth Control Works  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:43:42pm

re: #266 Eric The Fruit Bat

It’s no surprise Chicago has such a big-arse turnout-in addition to the universities, tech and Big Pharma firms based there, Chicagoland is home to Argonne National Laboratory and Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory.

So wish I could have been there.

I did get the T-shirt …

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:43:45pm

re: #261 teleskiguy

Indeed.

Right now I’m doing the prep before prep, and figuring out how much of what makes a respectable taco, so that the whole process can be honed down to a cost-efficient, time-efficient assembly line. The notes are already beginning to get a bit “Howard Hughes’ written instructions on how to properly wash a food tray.”

Industrial-scale cooking is bonkers. I’m about to blend about two pounds of spices. Like, a Tony Montana cocaine brick of spiciness.

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Mattand  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:45:10pm

re: #177 jaunte

Also, (Halperin’s) not sharp enough to stay out of a popularity contest with a dog.

IRL LOL on that one.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:45:13pm

re: #260 jaunte

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I had a thought about a similar image; it reminded me of the quote on her twitter page: “The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.”

I very much want to be more the kind of person she was and less the kind of person I sometimes tend towards being.

That’s something I’ve thought about a bunch, the past few days.

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teleskiguy  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:45:29pm

re: #271 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

I’ve worked in a couple of banquet kitchens. That kind of food production is indeed pretty bonkers.

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Stanley Sea  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:45:41pm

Saving children from foul balls - just another reason to follow @AlbertGator on Twitter! #GoGators

Wait for the CPR action at the end.

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jaunte  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:49:32pm

re: #273 klys (maker of Silmarils)

One great benefit of this technology; encountering people like her who set an example of being human that makes us want to be better.

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Mattand  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:49:44pm

re: #267 Skip Intro

I think he’s embarrassed that no one has accused him of sexual harassment at Fox. All his Trumper friends are laughing at him.

It’s like somebody bursting into a room with a dirty shovel and screaming “I DIDN’T BURY ANY BODIES IN THE BACKYARD JUST NOW!!! ANYONE WHO SAYS THAT IS FAKE NEWS!!!”

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calochortus  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:50:34pm

re: #276 jaunte

One great benefit of this technology; encountering people like her who set an example of being human that makes us want to be better.

And the down side is encountering people who encourage each other to be worse…

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Birth Control Works  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:50:34pm
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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:51:58pm

re: #278 calochortus

And the down side is encountering people who encourage each other to be worse…

Well, that’s where to some extent I’m trying to curate my time better.

Because one of the other things I want to do in her memory is make more time for art.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:52:14pm
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Stanley Sea  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:52:41pm

Today is the one year anniversary of me bringing home my Chica.

Here’s the first photo I took

Chica

She got a little bit of wet food as a celebration. I’m thankful she really didn’t like it, just a few bites.

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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:54:48pm

re: #273 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I very much want to be more the kind of person she was and less the kind of person I sometimes tend towards being.

That’s something I’ve thought about a bunch, the past few days.

I notice sadaqah is also a word in Hebrew for the same thing.

I have been reading more phrases like that. I ran across one that she lived by.

“If a Muslim plants a tree or sows seeds, and then a bird, or a person or an animal eats from it, it is regarded as a charitable gift (sadaqah) for him.” Sahih Bukhari

Click to read more: productivemuslim.com

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calochortus  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:56:50pm

Dinner calls. BBL

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darthstar  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:57:05pm

re: #275 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

Wait for the CPR action at the end.

Good gator.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:57:45pm

These fucking Trump people are disgusting.

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Kafitrar  Apr 22, 2017 • 5:59:47pm

I was at the March for Science in Princeton, NJ. There was a threat of rain, fortunately it held off. It was well-attended. The MC at the rally said they had 3 times more people register then they had expected. Here are some of the pictures I took.

March for Science rally
March for Science end
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Unshaken Defiance  Apr 22, 2017 • 6:03:43pm

re: #288 Charles Johnson

I’d bet they have no idea how much money soldiers ans sailors actually make. It sure ain’t a lot. E4 - Petty Officer - 3rd Class (Navy) $26,864 or about five minutes of extra security cost at Fuckingham Palace.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Apr 22, 2017 • 6:04:27pm

re: #270 Birth Control Works

I have an long-time acquitance who works at Fermilab who I have lost touch with. That’s one big ring there at Fermilab. Too bad CERN’s stealing it’s spotlight these days, but Fermilab is still doing serious work-they shipped a huge magnet from Brookhaven which is a story in itself.

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William Lewis  Apr 22, 2017 • 6:04:50pm

re: #220 darthstar

Don’t hate me.

[Embedded content]

Looks delicious, enjoy!

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 22, 2017 • 6:06:34pm

re: #39 mmmirele

Mark Halperin is complaining that he was seated next to a dog with a bow tie, in what looks like first class on Delta.

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Two thumbs way up for that response. What the hell did that beautiful dog do to deserve being stuck beside an idiot for the duration of that flight? Mark needs to be moved elsewhere.

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 22, 2017 • 6:07:49pm

re: #288 Charles Johnson

The very troops who overwhelmingly voted Trump. Wow. Republicans are so vicious.

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Birth Control Works  Apr 22, 2017 • 6:10:00pm

An appropriate thought for Earth Day.

Myth: we have to save the earth. Frankly, the earth doesn’t need to be saved. Nature doesn’t give a hoot if human beings are here or not. The planet has survived cataclysmic and catastrophic changes for millions upon millions of years. Over that time, it is widely believed, 99 percent of all species have come and gone while the planet has remained. Saving the environment is really about saving our environment — making it safe for ourselves, our children, and the world as we know it. If more people saw the issue as one of saving themselves, we would probably see increased motivation and commitment to actually do so. -Robert M. Lilienfeld, management consultant and author (b. 1953) and William L. Rathje, archaeologist and author (b. 1945)

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jaunte  Apr 22, 2017 • 6:11:33pm

re: #290 Unshaken Defiance

Plus all of $225 a month in Imminent Danger Pay while in a war zone.

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Belafon  Apr 22, 2017 • 6:15:27pm

re: #294 Patricia Kayden

The very troops who overwhelmingly voted Trump. Wow. Republicans are so vicious.

I heard veterans voted for Trump, but the troops went slightly more for Clinton.

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retired cynic  Apr 22, 2017 • 6:16:00pm

re: #297 Belafon

I heard veterans voted for Trump, but the troops went slightly more for Clinton.

I heard that, too.

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Belafon  Apr 22, 2017 • 6:16:42pm

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

I like this:

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Birth Control Works  Apr 22, 2017 • 6:21:18pm

bbl

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majii  Apr 22, 2017 • 6:27:40pm

re: #36 BigPapa

“Wowzers. Maddie is dense. Sub par intellect over compensating with large ego.”

The exchanges between “our” Charles and Maddie remind me of German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s exchange with Trump when she was at the WH. She reported that Trump asked her 11 times about a U.S./German trade agreement. She told him 10 times +1 that such an agreement isn’t possible. It was only at the 11th request, and her 11th time telling him that such an agreement was impossible that she got through to him that an agreement of the sort he was asking for was not possible. He then said he finally understood that any trade agreement with Germany would have to be with all EU nations. Dense isn’t the word to describe what Trump did. I believe that word is badgering/badgered. He badgered Chancellor Merkel in the hope that he could wear her down and get a “Yes” answer to his question. In Maddie’s case, I noticed that after she was forced to admit that “our” Charles had been right all along and she had been wrong, she suddenly changed her badgering into a “request for his assistance” in understanding what the Talking Yam had actually said. Such self-serving behavior and failure to accept that one is sometimes wrong is unseemly in an allegedly mature adult.

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FormerDirtDart  Apr 22, 2017 • 6:36:31pm

re: #288 Charles Johnson

re: #294 Patricia Kayden

It’s not like service members being required to contribute is anything new.

From 1977 until 2008 in order to receive education benefits service member had to contribute personal funds.
Under Veterans Educational Assistance Program (VEAP) (‘77-‘85) we paid in $2700, with the US Gov adding $5400. Under VEAP certain enlistment contracts also qualified for a “kicker” education bonus of ~$12,000.
Under Montgomery GI Bill — Active Duty (MGIB) (‘85-‘08) service member contributed $100 for 12 months to receive ~$1500 of benefits per month for 36 months of full time schooling. Part time class attendance earned a reduced benefit.

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Renaissance_Man  Apr 22, 2017 • 6:43:24pm

I was there today in DC.

Firstly, a disclaimer of sorts: I don’t generally march for anything. Despite strong political stances, I don’t believe protests work; if they did, the Vietnam War would have ended 10 years earlier, among other things. I have also been disengaged from many things, including here, since the election, as I find it too painful to contemplate the horror that is American politics. In a broader sense, I don’t think there is a whole lot of hope for the immediate future, in that the influence of the far right fascists has only grown for the past 20 years, and will only continue to do so for the next generation. Sure, in 8 years there will be a new President, possibly even a Democrat, but that won’t do much to stop the increasing influence of the know-nothing American right. That will take generational change.

But I digress. As I said, I came from out of state to march in DC today. Although I don’t especially believe in the ability of marches to effect anything, I did not come alone, and I wanted those I came with to see that when times are truly dark, you can’t just sit at home and talk about it or post about it on Facebook. The only antidote for the evil that infects people from their TVs and their computers, twisting them into warped abominations that only superficially resemble their former selves, is community, and engagement, and human contact.

There were a lot of people. Probably not as much as there might have been without the constant rain, but a lot nonetheless. I saw only one group of three counterprotestors, and it’s hard to say exactly what they were about, but one had a Pizzagate sign and another had a MAGA hat on, so they were good enough to clearly identify themselves as morons at least. There were a heartening number of people from all walks of life and all ages, and they stayed despite the rain and mud.

Was it effective? No, but marches and protests don’t work, not unless they disrupt everyday life to a significant extent. But if everyone there at least got the sense that they’re not alone, that there are others out there equally horrified at the evil that has possessed their friends and neighbours, then it was worth it.

As a note, I saw a truly disturbing amount of young people, teenagers mostly, walking around DC in MAGA hats over the past few days. I don’t even see that in the very red state I came from. Just appalling.


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