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freetoken  May 30, 2017 • 5:45:36pm

So, the top of the US trending lists on Twitter is “Kathy Griffin”.

How stupid.

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2017 • 5:46:50pm

re: #1 freetoken

America is a cat chasing a laser pointer.

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freetoken  May 30, 2017 • 5:53:01pm

Trump orders the launching of missiles into Syria.

Civilians are killed, not terrorists.

Trump people then describes this as “entertainment”:
Trump’s attack on Syria was ‘after-dinner entertainment’ says US commerce secretary

Tell me, where was the apology for this? Did I miss it?

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Stanley Sea  May 30, 2017 • 5:53:31pm
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 5:54:11pm

re: #1 freetoken

So, the top of the US trending lists on Twitter is “Kathy Griffin”.

How stupid.

Yep. SQUIRREL!

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2017 • 5:55:43pm

Thanks lots, Kathy. Your stupid stunt has given trump a much needed break. Well done, asshole.

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b.d.  May 30, 2017 • 5:56:02pm

I’m sure that if Chelsea Clinton had a secretly installed Russian, secured, direct line to the Kremlin that the wingnuts would be totally cool with it.

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Decatur Deb  May 30, 2017 • 5:56:03pm

re: #1 freetoken

So, the top of the US trending lists on Twitter is “Kathy Griffin”.

How stupid.

What do you imagine was the goal of this exercise?

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b.d.  May 30, 2017 • 5:57:23pm

re: #8 Decatur Deb

What do you imagine was the goal of this exercise?

To get Anderson Cooper a new New Year’s Eve CNN partner?

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 5:57:42pm

re: #7 b.d.

I’m sure that if Chelsea Clinton had a secretly installed Russian, secured, direct line to the Kremlin that the wingnuts would be totally cool with it.

Totally. //

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freetoken  May 30, 2017 • 5:58:24pm

re: #8 Decatur Deb

What do you imagine was the goal of this exercise?

As gdf pointed out downstairs, Griffin’s little exercise probably qualifies well as “bad art”.

Other than that, this is exactly as Charles noted - like kittens chasing after a laser pointer.

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 5:58:40pm

re: #6 Skip Intro

Tomorrow the laser pointer will be on something else.

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2017 • 5:58:59pm
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Decatur Deb  May 30, 2017 • 5:59:26pm

re: #9 b.d.

To get Anderson Cooper a new New Year’s Eve CNN partner?

There is one show business attitude towards publicity.

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2017 • 5:59:55pm

Just so everyone knows - Kathy Griffin made a sincere apology for that gross video.

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b.d.  May 30, 2017 • 6:00:04pm

re: #12 jaunte

Tomorrow the laser pointer will be on something else.

Because the wingnuts will accept her apology and move on……

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2017 • 6:01:17pm

re: #12 jaunte

Tomorrow the laser pointer will be on something else.

You ignore the power of the right wing media to distract. The Seth Rich story was dead so kindly Ms. Griffen gives them fresh red meat to obsess over.

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b.d.  May 30, 2017 • 6:02:27pm

to break it up a bit…

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:02:34pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

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Now this bothers me more than a comidede making a stupid tweet. But yon won’t see is on FOX.

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2017 • 6:03:02pm

I probably could have gotten a bunch of page views if I’d written something about Kathy Griffin’s bad mistake.

But this is just bullshit. There are much more important things going on than a comedian’s publicity stunt.

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nines09  May 30, 2017 • 6:03:06pm

1 Ted Nugent threatens life of Obama & Hillary
2 Doubles down when confronted with it
3 Is hero to Republicans and “conservatives”

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b.d.  May 30, 2017 • 6:04:13pm

re: #17 Skip Intro

You ignore the power of the right wing media to distract. The Seth Rich story was dead so kindly Ms. Griffen gives them fresh red meat to obsess over.

Kathy Griffen killed Seth Rich in the pedophile pizza parlor with the email server.

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2017 • 6:04:25pm
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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 6:04:51pm

re: #17 Skip Intro

Griffin-ghazi

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2017 • 6:05:02pm

re: #22 b.d.

Kathy Griffen killed Seth Rich in the pedophile pizza parlor with the email server.

Alex Jones is so going to steal that.

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b_sharp  May 30, 2017 • 6:06:22pm

re: #5 HappyWarrior

Yep. SQUIRREL!

WHERE??

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teleskiguy  May 30, 2017 • 6:06:28pm

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goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2017 • 6:06:44pm

Chris Cillizza clearly has a drinking problem.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:06:48pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

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Indeed.

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 6:06:52pm

Disturbing when we have right wing terrorists actually killing people and being blandly ignored or minimized by most RW media.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:07:11pm

re: #28 goddamnedfrank

Chris Cillizza clearly has a drinking problem.

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Or a tweeting problem. What a self righteous boob.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:07:53pm

re: #30 jaunte

Disturbing when we have right wing terrorists actually killing people and being blandly ignored or minimized by most RW media.

Well obviously Trump’s poor widdle feelings > the two people killed and other seriously hurt.

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Decatur Deb  May 30, 2017 • 6:08:45pm

re: #30 jaunte

Disturbing when we have right wing terrorists actually killing people and being blandly ignored or minimized by most RW media.

Ignored? Sure, but congratulations might have seemed in bad taste.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 6:09:42pm

re: #1 freetoken

So, the top of the US trending lists on Twitter is “Kathy Griffin”.

How stupid.

From the previous thread:

re: #538 HappyWarrior

That’s their problem. You’re confusing me though. How aer they going to get the RW memes with no internet and thus no social media but no links to Griffin’s apology? There’s a difference between ignorance and stupidity, the stupid man simply doesn’t know, the ignorant man could know but chooses not to.

FOX News and Christian hate radio, as I mentioned. There is no private Internet service in my town except my house.

They will hear nothing else because they will be told nothing else.

That is why some wingnut starts something on a blog like Free Republic or Reddit or 4chan (places my conservative neighbours would never be caught dead at if they did have service), it gets filtered through more “reputable” sources like Michelle Malkin or Laura Ingram or Bill Kristol (your mileage on reputable sources may vary), and winds up on FOX television and radio.

Note the nonsense with Seth Rich. Sean Hannity didn’t think that up; that boiled over from Free Republic (that was the earliest source I could find for it, which then got fed to the local FOX television station).

Couple that with half-a-century of conservatives demonising liberals, and now they have their own television and radio outlet, and you have today’s story. I would not be surprised if FOX lead with it. It’s already on the front page of FOX News’s Website - although they mention briefly her apology (and near the top of the article), it is followed by loads of Twitter comments in the article about “hateful liberals” &c.

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 6:09:58pm

Republican father killed while defending Muslim girls.
RWNJs: “Whatever.”

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:10:31pm

Okay time for some humor. Old joke that I remember my uncle telling me. This Irish guy goes to a pub and a stranger starts up a conversation with him. They find out they’re both from the County Cork. They both down a shot in celebration. Then they find out they’re from the same town. Another shot. Then they find out that they attended the same parochial school together. Another regular comes in and asks the bartender what’s going on. The bartender just laughs and says the McNulty twins are drunk again.

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2017 • 6:11:36pm

re: #34 Anymouse

You put a lot of effort into your posts. I really like that.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:11:50pm

re: #34 Anymouse

From the previous thread:

FOX News and Christian hate radio, as I mentioned. There is no private Internet service in my town except my house.

They will hear nothing else because they will be told nothing else.

That is why some wingnut starts something on a blog like Free Republic or Reddit or 4chan (places my conservative neighbours would never be caught dead at if they did have service), it gets filtered through more “reputable” sources like Michelle Malkin or Laura Ingram or Bill Kristol (your mileage on reputable sources may vary), and winds up on FOX television and radio.

Note the nonsense with Seth Rich. Sean Hannity didn’t think that up; that boiled over from Free Republic (that was the earliest source I could find for it, which then got fed to the local FOX television station).

Couple that with half-a-century of conservatives demonising liberals, and now they have their own television and radio outlet, and you have today’s story. I would not be surprised if FOX lead with it. It’s already on the front page of FOX News’s Website - although they mention briefly her apology (and near the top of the article), it is followed by loads of Twitter comments in the article about “hateful liberals” &c.

Okay fair enough. I do think a lot of their ignorance though is self inflicted wounds though. I know that sounds snobby but I get frustrated by people who don’t educate themselves too.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:12:29pm

re: #35 jaunte

Republican father killed while defending Muslim girls.
RWNJs: “Whatever.”

A military vet at that too.

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Patricia Kayden  May 30, 2017 • 6:12:35pm

re: #6 Skip Intro

Thanks lots, Kathy. Your stupid stunt has given trump a much needed break. Well done, asshole.

Are we exaggerating what she did? It was vile and not funny but she has apologized. We can move on now. For 8 years the Right demonized President Obama including with mock lynchings. Griffin’s action reflects her and from what I can see hasn’t been condoned by any Democratic politician.

Forgive her and focus on Trump’s list of misdeeds which keep growing each day.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:14:06pm

re: #40 Patricia Kayden

Are we exaggerating what she did? It was vile and not funny but she has apologized. We can move on now. For 8 years the Right demonized President Obama including with mock lynchings. Griffin’s action reflects her and from what I can see hasn’t been condoned by any Democratic politician.

Forgive her and focus on Trump’s list of misdeeds which keep growing each day.

I think that’s referring more to the fact that it’s the top trending subject on Twitter. I actually think her apology was contrite and quite honestly one of the better ones I’ve seen in years but she did feed these assholes exactly what they wanted especially as more and more shit comes up about Trump and the Russians.

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goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2017 • 6:14:15pm
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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 6:14:20pm
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b.d.  May 30, 2017 • 6:14:56pm

Of course the wingnuts embrace this guy as a hero and never denounced him

Nugent wielded two machine guns while raging, “Obama, he’s a piece of shit. I told him to suck on my machine gun. Hey Hillary,” he continued. “You might want to ride one of these into the sunset, you worthless bitch.” Nugent summed up his eloquent speech by screaming “freedom!”

rollingstone.com

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:15:06pm

re: #43 jaunte

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OFFS.

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2017 • 6:15:24pm

re: #40 Patricia Kayden

Yeah we can move on but this is manna from heaven for the GOP. The problem is we are allowed to make no errors at all while the other side can do whatever they want, with exactly zero repercussions.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:16:30pm

re: #44 b.d.

Of course the wingnuts embrace this guy as a hero and never denounced him

NOt just wingnuts but their fucking nominees. Nugent campaigned with Romney and Trump after he said that shit. Oh and by the way, Ted, you’re the worthless bitch, Hillary actually has accomplished shit in her life, you? You’re nothing but a patehtic has been who makes his living playing to scared little men who hide behind their guns while thinking they’re tough guys but are actually some of the most cowardly pieces of shit out there.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:16:58pm

re: #46 Skip Intro

Yeah we can move on but this is manna from heaven for the GOP. The problem is we are allowed to make no errors at all while the other side can do whatever they want, with exactly zero repercussions.

Maybe that’s not fair to her. She is a comedian after all. I do hear you though.

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Patricia Kayden  May 30, 2017 • 6:17:10pm

re: #41 HappyWarrior

Okay. She made a huge mistake for which she has apologized. I hope we don’t waste time talking about her stunt when Trump is destroying this country. Sigh.

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 6:17:37pm

Trump has urged leaders of Canada and Mexico to reach him on his cellphone, according to former and current U.S. officials with direct knowledge of the practice. Of the two, only Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has taken advantage of the offer so far, the officials said.

Trump also exchanged numbers with French President Emmanuel Macron when the two spoke immediately following Macron’s victory earlier this month, according to a French official.
usnews.com

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Patricia Kayden  May 30, 2017 • 6:18:16pm

re: #42 goddamnedfrank

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Until some politician body slams him and then all bets are off.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:18:22pm

re: #49 Patricia Kayden

Okay. She made a huge mistake for which she has apologized. I hope we don’t waste time talking about her stunt when Trump is destroying this country. Sigh.

I don’t disagree with that assessment at all. The problem is the sensationalist media is going to pounce on that and ignore that Jared pretty much lied on his government form. Something that would have at the very least cost me or you our job.

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Belafon  May 30, 2017 • 6:18:38pm

re: #49 Patricia Kayden

Okay. She made a huge mistake for which she has apologized. I hope we don’t waste time talking about her stunt when Trump is destroying this country. Sigh.

If anyone asks, tell them it was just as disgusting as the targets made using Obama’s face, and ask if you will join in condemning both.

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 6:18:39pm

Macron’s cellphone reached out and squeezed until Trump’s battery died.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:19:04pm

re: #50 jaunte

Mexico’s President should just give the number to some Mexican shock jocks. Trump thinks every Latino is the same anyhow. He’d never tell the difference.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:19:34pm

Hell give the number to Vicente Fox actually.

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 6:19:42pm

¡Allo Presidente!

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2017 • 6:19:59pm

re: #50 jaunte

I hope Macron gave trump the number to a porn site.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:20:37pm

Is there anyone more pathetic than Ted Nugent? I’ll say it here. I won’t be sad at all when he goes. HE’s a bitter old piece of shit that realized once the music talent he had died, he could make a better living pandering to the resentments of other man babies like himself.

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The Major  May 30, 2017 • 6:20:46pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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Pawn of the Oppressor  May 30, 2017 • 6:21:06pm

re: #4 Stanley Sea

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I’d do it.

It would feel good to walk into Trump’s office, take his phone out of his tiny hands, and smash smash smash it to itty bitty bits right in front of him.

Then I’d walk through the press room with professional wrestlers in tow, with them bodily picking up right wing lunatics with press passes and throwing them into the nearest swimming pool, one after the other, live on TV. OH YEAHHH BROTHER!

Then I’d physically pull all the computers out of the Executive Branch and burn them and tell Moscow Donnie he can never talk to Russians ever ever again.

Then I would go to Breitbart offices with a can of gasoline…

And since the message IS the Presidency with this clown, I would now control everything. Maybe I could even convince him to try being an actual President.

But mainly, I’d just want to kick everyone’s ass…

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:21:18pm

re: #58 Skip Intro

I hope Macron gave trump the number to a porn site.

Merkel should have given him Hitler’s old number.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 6:21:59pm

re: #37 Skip Intro

You put a lot of effort into your posts. I really like that.

Aw, thanks. Sometimes I go off in the weeds. When that happens, bring a sickle and come find me.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:22:05pm

re: #61 Pawn of the Oppressor

I’d do it.

It would feel good to walk into Trump’s office, take his phone out of his tiny hands, and smash smash smash it to itty bitty bits right in front of him.

Then I’d walk through the press room with professional wrestlers in tow, with them bodily picking up right wing lunatics with press passes and throwing them into the nearest swimming pool, one after the other, live on TV. OH YEAHHH BROTHER!

Then I’d physically pull all the computers out of the Executive Branch and burn them and tell Moscow Donnie he can never talk to Russians ever ever again.

Then I would go to Breitbart offices with a can of gasoline…

And since the message IS the Presidency with this clown, I would now control everything. Maybe I could even convince him to try being an actual President.

But mainly, I’d just want to kick everyone’s ass…

I’d pay to see this.

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lockjawcanbefun  May 30, 2017 • 6:22:19pm

re: #55 HappyWarrior

“It’s Crazy Call time here on Pancho and the Burro. We’re ringing up Donnie in Washington DC, and we’re going to tell him that Carlos Slim just bought all his hotels at a bankruptcy auction! Let’s listen!”

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teleskiguy  May 30, 2017 • 6:22:50pm

I saw some folks having advertisement problems at LGF. I know $60 might not be in a budget for a website, totally understandable. Think of it this way. That’s 16¢ a day. If you come here everyday and comment everyday, that’s a pittance. Ad-free LGF is pretty freakin’ awesome if you ask me. I’m subscribed through Jan. 2019.

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Decatur Deb  May 30, 2017 • 6:23:05pm

re: #57 jaunte

!Allo Presidente!

“The President of Mexico has me on speed-dial, under “Cabron”. That means ‘Buddy’.”

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:23:20pm

re: #65 lockjawcanbefun

“It’s Crazy Call time here on Pancho and the Burro. We’re ringing up Donnie in Washington DC, and we’re going to tell him that Carlos Slim just bought all his hotels at a bankruptcy auction! Let’s listen!”

Hahahhaha please happen.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:24:10pm

re: #67 Decatur Deb

“The President of Mexico has me on speed-dial, under “Cabron”. That means ‘Buddy’.”

He also calls me Hijo de Puta which means brother from another mother! He loves me!

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b.d.  May 30, 2017 • 6:24:12pm

re: #50 jaunte

It seems the smartphone that the president [Obama] received, which he didn’t identify, isn’t as smart as the typical device anyone else can buy in a local Verizon Wireless store, as the president mentioned to talk show host Jimmy Fallon on Thursday night.

After he got the phone, the president was told “this is a great phone, state of the art, but it doesn’t take pictures, you can’t text, the phone doesn’t work, you can’t play your music on it,” Obama said, laughing along with Fallon. “So basically, it’s like—does your 3-year old have one of those play phones?”

fortune.com

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The Major  May 30, 2017 • 6:24:38pm
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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 6:25:45pm

re: #38 HappyWarrior

Okay fair enough. I do think a lot of their ignorance though is self inflicted wounds though. I know that sounds snobby but I get frustrated by people who don’t educate themselves too.

As I’ve mentioned before here, find a liberal (or at least an honest non-partisan) billionaire to come in here and create a network like Sinclair or FOX or Christian hate radio or even a newspaper, then get back with me.

By tomorrow it will be on the front page of my (only) regional newspaper (the source for the majority of news to confirm what FOX broadcasts).

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:27:12pm

re: #72 Anymouse

As I’ve mentioned before here, find a liberal (or at least an honest non-partisan) billionaire to come in here and create a network like Sinclair or FOX or Christian hate radio or even a newspaper, then get back with me.

By tomorrow it will be on the front page of my (only) regional newspaper (the source for the majority of news to confirm what FOX broadcasts).

Buffett, I know what you’re saying. I live in a RW area myself so I hear you about one sided media.

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 6:27:28pm

Of Course: Fox fans applaud Trump’s insecure line.

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teleskiguy  May 30, 2017 • 6:28:11pm

I already said what I wanted to say about Kathy Griffin on Twitter.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:29:06pm

re: #74 jaunte

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Of Course: Fox fans applaud Trump’s insecure line.

Wasn”t Obama hated by people like Paul there for reaching out to Iran and Cuba? Oh and it’s not him reaching out to every leader in the world. If it were, he wouldn’t be reversing Obama’s Cuba policy.

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caseyjr  May 30, 2017 • 6:30:02pm

re: #44 b.d.

Of course the wingnuts embrace this guy as a hero and never denounced him

I am more disturbed that ms. Griffin’s stunt was a hoax. That was cruel, Kathy.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 6:30:12pm

re: #58 Skip Intro

I hope Macron gave trump the number to a porn site.

Mr. Trump, I have a Website you should check out.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 6:31:43pm

re: #73 HappyWarrior

Buffett, I know what you’re saying. I live in a RW area myself so I hear you about one sided media.

Perhaps if I wrote a letter to Warren Buffett:

Sir,

I know Berkshire Hathaway has diverse investments from banking to railroads.

Would it be too much trouble to invest in a few newspapers and radio stations in your own state?

Thanks. Concerned neighbour on the other side of the state.

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2017 • 6:32:08pm

re: #74 jaunte

I guess that’s so they can reach him on the golf course since I’m not aware of any problems with the White House phone system that every other president used.

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lockjawcanbefun  May 30, 2017 • 6:32:17pm

re: #78 Anymouse

Donnie! My friend! Did you hear there’s a new political party that formed and it has some pretty impressive. I can’t recall the party’s name. Something about lemons…

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2017 • 6:32:33pm

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2017 • 6:33:45pm

re: #73 HappyWarrior

Buffett, I know what you’re saying. I live in a RW area myself so I hear you about one sided media.

I’m sure any news station started by a liberal billionaire would be looked on as a completely fair and unbiased source of news.

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The Major  May 30, 2017 • 6:33:46pm
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nines09  May 30, 2017 • 6:34:07pm
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Stanley Sea  May 30, 2017 • 6:35:03pm
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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2017 • 6:35:18pm
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:36:59pm

re: #79 Anymouse

Perhaps if I wrote a letter to Warren Buffett:

Sir,

I know Berkshire Hathaway has diverse investments from banking to railroads.

Would it be too much trouble to invest in a few newspapers and radio stations in your own state?

Thanks. Concerned neighbour on the other side of the state.

He’d be more likely to listen to you than me.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:37:31pm

re: #83 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m sure any news station started by a liberal billionaire would be looked on as a completely fair and unbiased source of news.

/

There is that too.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:38:00pm

re: #87 Charles Johnson

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Awww don’t you just hate that? //

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Belafon  May 30, 2017 • 6:38:07pm

re: #79 Anymouse

Perhaps if I wrote a letter to Warren Buffett:

Sir,

I know Berkshire Hathaway has diverse investments from banking to railroads.

Would it be too much trouble to invest in a few newspapers and radio stations in your own state?

Thanks. Concerned neighbour on the other side of the state.

It does make you wonder, with liberals putting money into so many causes, if some of that should have been spent on marketing.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 6:38:39pm

Off-topic: When I went to Sidney, I stopped in the Post Office to mail some letters. I asked about the new eclipse stamps and when they’re coming out (June 20).

I also asked if there would be a “first day of issue” postmark for the cities and towns on the path of the eclipse, since we’re on the path. The postmistress said they are looking into that now.

I have a bunch of postcards with details of the upcoming eclipse I want to send to everyone and their cat’s pet dog around the world - a first-day-of-issue postmark would be most cool to do that with.

In bad news, our Yukon trip is off for this year. The bills from our cat’s hospital stay were too heavy. However, we are planning to go to either Massachusetts, Washington DC, or both for the fiftieth anniversary of my father’s death in Vietnam. (He is buried in Massachusetts; DC has the Wall, which I visited once previously but my wife has never seen.)

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:39:14pm

re: #91 Belafon

It does make you wonder, with liberals putting money into so many causes, if some of that should have been spent on marketing.

We do need to market better. One of my campaign buddies, former Republican no less says the Republicans are brilliant at messaging and he honestly isn’t wrong. We do the important thing like govern better but they message ver ywell.

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2017 • 6:40:10pm

Jeff Bezos bought the only newspaper in the country worth a damn. Has no one noticed?

All of you should subscribe to support his efforts.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:41:01pm

re: #94 Skip Intro

Jeff Bezos bought the only newspaper in the country worth a damn. Has no one noticed?

All of you should subscribe to support his efforts.

I subscribe to it already. However, I think what’s being discussed is local newspapers.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 6:41:07pm

re: #83 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I’m sure any news station started by a liberal billionaire would be looked on as a completely fair and unbiased source of news.

/

Well, we have a whole generation of people propagandised to believe FOX is “fair and balanced.” Propaganda’s a helluva drug.

Mr. Buffett is well-respected here though. He might be just the liberal billionaire to do it.

On the other hand, if George Soros has a few tens of millions lying around waiting to burn, he can give it to me to do it and he can be the silent partner behind the scenes directing it. /s

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The Major  May 30, 2017 • 6:41:26pm

re: #87 Charles Johnson
Checking it out….

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:41:35pm

Jeb won’t be buying the Marlins. Rumors of a dispute with the shortstopi, Number 2, Der-ek, Jet-er.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:42:21pm

re: #96 Anymouse

Well, we have a whole generation of people propagandised to believe FOX is “fair and balanced.” Propaganda’s a helluva drug.

Mr. Buffett is well-respected here though. He might be just the liberal billionaire to do it.

On the other hand, if George Soros has a few tens of millions lying around waiting to burn, he can give it to me to do it and he can be the silent partner behind the scenes directing it. /s

That is why I brought up Buffet, the Nebraska native. However, Kyls does have a point too.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:43:01pm

TBH? More education I think will help a lot in some ways.

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b.d.  May 30, 2017 • 6:43:39pm

Who will be the 1st shock jock to get Trump’s number and pretend to be a world leader?

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2017 • 6:44:19pm

re: #95 HappyWarrior

Local papers are hopeless. First, they’re all owned by corporate media giants, and at least in my case they have next to no reporters working for them and cost upwards of $600 per year for around 20 pages of print.

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Belafon  May 30, 2017 • 6:44:27pm

re: #100 HappyWarrior

TBH? More education I think will help a lot in some ways.

Yes, though I think one of the brutal lessons of 2016 was that people would know history.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:44:31pm

re: #101 b.d.

Who will be the 1st shock jock to get Trump’s number and pretend to be a world leader?

I’d say Opie and Anthony but ANthony Cumia loves kissing Trump’s ass and he knows Howard.

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 6:44:43pm
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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 6:45:08pm

re: #100 HappyWarrior

TBH? More education I think will help a lot in some ways.

“Today we got the Education Secretary’s new school plan. We’ll be doubling down on learning. Today we’ll be reading from Genesis AND Exodus.” /s

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:45:23pm

re: #102 Skip Intro

Local papers are hopeless. First, they’re all owned by corporate media giants, and at least in my case they have next to no reporters working for them and cost upwards of $600 per year for around 20 pages of print.

Well, we were discussing how to balance out the RW bs that AM’s constiuents get spoonfed to em.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:45:38pm

re: #103 Belafon

Yes, though I think one of the brutal lessons of 2016 was that people would know history.

I know, I thought so too.

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lockjawcanbefun  May 30, 2017 • 6:45:53pm

re: #101 b.d.

I think it might sound a little like this…

Masked Avengers Prank Call Sarah Palin!

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2017 • 6:45:53pm

re: #96 Anymouse

George supports so many of us already he’s probably just about tapped out. I know I haven’t been paid in years.

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EPR-radar  May 30, 2017 • 6:46:26pm

re: #105 jaunte

These “America is a Christian Nation” dingbats need to be hit with a massive Treaty of Tripoli clue-by-four.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:46:27pm

re: #106 Anymouse

“Today we got the Education Secretary’s new school plan. We’ll be doubling down on learning. Today we’ll be reading from Genesis AND Exodus.” /s

Reminding me again that even though both my parents came from quite religious families, my education was secular and I’m grateful for that.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 6:47:29pm

re: #111 EPR-radar

To say nothing of the ducking and weaving about how sectarian their version of “Christian” is.

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The Major  May 30, 2017 • 6:47:47pm
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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 6:48:08pm

re: #102 Skip Intro

Local papers are hopeless. First, they’re all owned by corporate media giants, and at least in my case they have next to no reporters working for them and cost upwards of $600 per year for around 20 pages of print.

A subscription to my regional paper is just over $60 a year. They have a number of staff reporters who report on statewide issues in Wyoming and Nebraska.

The local paper is a weekly with two reporters. They stick strictly to Cheyenne and Morrill County news. (They run op-eds from Sen. Deb Fischer, Sen. Ben Sasse, or Rep. Adrian Smith when those politicians release them, otherwise they do not run political articles except local politics.)

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2017 • 6:48:44pm

re: #101 b.d.

Who will be the 1st shock jock to get Trump’s number and pretend to be a world leader?

I think Carlos Slim would be a killer. He could tell trump that he’s bought up all of trump’s golf courses from the Russians and will be converting them into parking lots for his fleet of taco trucks.

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2017 • 6:49:02pm
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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 6:49:13pm

re: #110 Skip Intro

George supports so many of us already he’s probably just about tapped out. I know I haven’t been paid in years.

I’m going to have to tell Mr. Soros I can no longer accept his cheques: He’ll need to pay in gold or silver coinage. /s

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Barefoot Grin  May 30, 2017 • 6:49:32pm

re: #4 Stanley Sea

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May have been Dave Weigel who quipped “Dubke submitted letter of resignation before he took the job.”

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The Major  May 30, 2017 • 6:50:55pm

re: #104 HappyWarrior

Don’t forget that O&A had Usay on quite a bit…

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BeachDem  May 30, 2017 • 6:52:13pm

re: #53 Belafon

If anyone asks, tell them it was just as disgusting as the targets made using Obama’s face, and ask if you will join in condemning both.

And let us not forget that after Sarah Palin put her “surveyor marks” on Gabby Giffords, Palin claimed the repercussions were a “blood libel” (like she had any idea what that meant in the first place.)

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(Bert the Turtle)  May 30, 2017 • 6:52:21pm

re: #117 Charles Johnson

Well yeah. But when has the right-wing let a good “we’re the victims’ outrage go to waste. Hell, it seems like they live for it. I mean they’re defending Chuck Woolery? I honestly didn’t know the guy was still kicking.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:53:27pm

re: #120 The Major

Don’t forget that O&A had Usay on quite a bit…

That’s right.

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 6:53:40pm
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 6:54:21pm

re: #121 BeachDem

And let us not forget that after Sarah Palin put her “surveyor marks” on Gabby Giffords, Palin claimed the repercussions were a “blood libel” (like she had any idea what that meant in the first place.)

The blood libel remark yes. Said by someone who claims to love the Jewish people.

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2017 • 6:55:29pm

re: #124 jaunte

The real reason he wants calls to his cell phone is because he thinks they won’t be logged.

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Barefoot Grin  May 30, 2017 • 6:55:30pm

re: #102 Skip Intro

Local papers are hopeless. First, they’re all owned by corporate media giants, and at least in my case they have next to no reporters working for them and cost upwards of $600 per year for around 20 pages of print.

Ours is good. It’s kind of a lefty paper, though. If you’re into that kind of thing. //

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Jebediah, RBG  May 30, 2017 • 6:55:56pm
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Unshaken Defiance  May 30, 2017 • 6:55:58pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

America is a cat chasing a laser pointer.

‘Cept my cat knows when to call it quits and eat.

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 6:56:56pm

re: #126 Skip Intro

He really has no idea what the NSA can do.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 6:57:22pm

in reference to Ms. Griffith’s tweet:

Of course the Biblical story recounted in many paintings over the years is in the Book of Judith, so that would cue wingnuts to claim it’s not from the God-derived ancient modern English text of the KJV, nevermind the the KJV originally included the deuterocanonical (spell check wants electromechanical for this, a steampunk Bible I guess) books of the OT and is available today (at Amazon of all places).

But that’s too much thought.

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teleskiguy  May 30, 2017 • 6:57:49pm

re: #130 jaunte

He really has no idea what the NSA can do.

He would if he read his PDBs. But he doesn’t read at all.

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ipsos  May 30, 2017 • 6:58:26pm

re: #99 HappyWarrior

Buffett does own the biggest paper (by far) in Nebraska, the Omaha World-Herald.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 30, 2017 • 7:01:00pm

Well just shook hands on buying an old Toyota Matrix. Might be a cool tuner, at 234,000 miles it’s gonna be a local runner. I love the feel of the car. Tight in the corners and some get up and scamper as needed. Should be a gas sipper.

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BeachDem  May 30, 2017 • 7:01:40pm

re: #82 klys (maker of Silmarils)

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 7:02:18pm

re: #133 ipsos

Buffett does own the biggest paper (by far) in Nebraska, the Omaha World-Herald.

Didn’t know that.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 7:02:47pm

re: #133 ipsos

Buffett does own the biggest paper (by far) in Nebraska, the Omaha World-Herald.

Hmm. I didn’t know that. The World-Herald doesn’t deliver in this part of the state (actually, no big city paper does, except by mail) … I could subscribe via the Internet, but that still doesn’t get the paper in the hands of others here.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2017 • 7:02:47pm

re: #135 BeachDem

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piratedan  May 30, 2017 • 7:04:02pm

re: #42 goddamnedfrank

well Chris is safe, NO ONE thinks of him as a journalist

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Joe Bacon  May 30, 2017 • 7:06:38pm

re: #78 Anymouse

Mr. Trump, I have a Website you should check out.

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I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that he actively posts on Fetlife.

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 7:06:49pm
“…The Federal Reserve Board on Tuesday announced a $41 million penalty and consent cease and desist order against the U.S. operations of Deutsche Bank AG for anti-money laundering deficiencies.

The actions were taken by the Board to address unsafe and unsound practices at the firm’s domestic banking operations. The Board identified failures by Deutsche Bank’s U.S. banking operations to maintain an effective program to comply with the Bank Secrecy Act and anti-money laundering laws.
federalreserve.gov

“…According to financial disclosures made by Trump during the campaign, he owes more than $714 million to several banks. But his biggest lender—by far—is Deutsche Bank, which has provided Trump at least $364 million in financing.
motherjones.com

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teleskiguy  May 30, 2017 • 7:07:11pm
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darthstar  May 30, 2017 • 7:08:55pm
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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 7:09:05pm
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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 7:09:37pm

re: #143 darthstar

I worry about North Carolina.

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(Bert the Turtle)  May 30, 2017 • 7:12:12pm

re: #143 darthstar

Ouch. That one digs deep.

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The Major  May 30, 2017 • 7:13:06pm

re: #141 jaunte

Right-now compare DT’s market cap vs. JPM’s market cap. They both have nearly the same liabilities in their derivatives book….

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teleskiguy  May 30, 2017 • 7:13:57pm

re: #143 darthstar

Even with two correct spellings, Georgia still misspells ‘gray.’

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freetoken  May 30, 2017 • 7:14:54pm
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FormerDirtDart  May 30, 2017 • 7:15:21pm

re: #143 darthstar

re: #145 jaunte

I worry about North Carolina.

North Carolina?
They can’t spell Nanny in Mississippi…

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Patricia Kayden  May 30, 2017 • 7:15:31pm

re: #94 Skip Intro

Jeff Bezos bought the only newspaper in the country worth a damn. Has no one noticed?

All of you should subscribe to support his efforts.

I have been a subscriber to the Washington Post since 2000. Hope it keeps up the good work on exposing the Trump regime.

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jaunte  May 30, 2017 • 7:18:26pm

re: #150 FormerDirtDart

Still, nanny’s not in the Bible nearly as often as angel.

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teleskiguy  May 30, 2017 • 7:18:41pm
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FormerDirtDart  May 30, 2017 • 7:18:52pm
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freetoken  May 30, 2017 • 7:19:03pm

Kappa bridge, Nagano:

google.com

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Stanley Sea  May 30, 2017 • 7:21:56pm

This just makes me sick

Exxon Mobil’s chief executive, Darren W. Woods, wrote recently that remaining in the agreement would be prudent, part of a nearly united corporate front. Within the administration, Gary D. Cohn, the director of the National Economic Council; the president’s daughter Ivanka Trump; and his secretary of state, Rex W. Tillerson, say the United States can remain a party to the accord even as the administration moves to eviscerate the Obama-era climate policies that would have allowed the United States to meet its pollution-reduction targets under the agreement.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 7:22:06pm

re: #150 FormerDirtDart

North Carolina?
They can’t spell Nanny in Mississippi…

That’s because they are not a nanny state. /s

Apparently my state has trouble with suspichus …
supisuch …

something suspicious like that.

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freetoken  May 30, 2017 • 7:23:22pm

Awaji Island monkeys:

淡路島モンキーセンター

Every feel like that guy in the middle, who spends his day pulling on a string just because?

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 7:23:43pm

Cochinita pibil perking away in the oven.

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b.d.  May 30, 2017 • 7:23:57pm

re: #143 darthstar

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Not being able to spell the word college isn’t very impressive either Mr. South Dakota…

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TedStriker  May 30, 2017 • 7:24:49pm

re: #160 b.d.

Not being able to spell the word college isn’t very impressive either Mr. South Dakota…

Someone say “college”?
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Barefoot Grin  May 30, 2017 • 7:25:18pm

re: #149 freetoken

Mountains… snow… neo-Tori:

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Video

Awesome. I’ve crossed Kappabashi to climb up to Yarigatake and cross to Oku-hotaka (I was not a climber but was taken by some friends).

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2017 • 7:25:22pm
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darthstar  May 30, 2017 • 7:25:31pm

Okay…spuds are done…time to go throw a salad together. Baked spuds & Salad tonight. It’s a great combination. We like to stuff the spud skin with salad then eat it all together just like that.

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The Major  May 30, 2017 • 7:25:35pm
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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 7:25:38pm
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Skip Intro  May 30, 2017 • 7:26:31pm

What is Louisiana’s interest in giraffes all about?

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2017 • 7:27:54pm

re: #163 Charles Johnson

It’s biblical, Willard. You should love it.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 7:27:57pm

re: #167 Skip Intro

What is Louisiana’s interest in giraffes all about?

Apparently they are not interested in giraffes if they can’t spell the word.

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b.d.  May 30, 2017 • 7:29:16pm

re: #167 Skip Intro

What is Louisiana’s interest in giraffes all about?

Cajun neck recipe….

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Unshaken Defiance  May 30, 2017 • 7:29:21pm

re: #156 Stanley Sea

This just makes me sick

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He wants to Kayfabe the environment so he can profit by shitting in our nest. A traitor to reason and clean air.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 7:29:26pm

re: #163 Charles Johnson

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Says the guy who courted Nugent’s endorsement.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 7:30:29pm

re: #163 Charles Johnson

…said man who was on stage with Ted Nugent.

And Ted Nugent wasn’t doing a photo set that was crafted to be shocking.

This is how it’s always going to be; they will have morals and umbrage only when it suits them, and tell us all that this is “real” morality even as they exercise that perfidy.

There is no there there.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 7:30:35pm

re: #165 The Major

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No offense dude but that could come off as a threat.

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Jebediah, RBG  May 30, 2017 • 7:30:49pm
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 7:31:21pm

He appeared after Nugent after Nugent described many of his fellow Americans as parasites. Sorry Mitt but you’re the last person that should be lecturing anyone about this.

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freetoken  May 30, 2017 • 7:32:41pm

Trying to teach the little ones to pull the string… and they won’t pay attention:

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The Major  May 30, 2017 • 7:34:12pm
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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 7:34:48pm

Eight part thread:

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Stanley Sea  May 30, 2017 • 7:35:46pm

re: #159 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Cochinita pibil perking away in the oven.

mmmmmmmmmmm

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 7:35:59pm

re: #179 Anymouse

Eight part thread:

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That should scare people. That a guy with as much National Security creds as I do can veto people like Mattis, McMaster, & Kelly.

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lockjawcanbefun  May 30, 2017 • 7:37:56pm

Fuck.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 7:38:58pm

re: #182 lockjawcanbefun

Fuck.

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Awful. This shouldn’t be happening. I am glad the Canadians are being welcoming but at the same time, damn it, this isn’t the America I was born in.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 30, 2017 • 7:40:01pm

re: #174 HappyWarrior

No offense dude but that could come off as a threat.

So does a lot of his stuff. That’s the creepiest thing about TheMajor.

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BeachDem  May 30, 2017 • 7:40:09pm

re: #167 Skip Intro

What is Louisiana’s interest in giraffes all about?

Hey—south by dog carolina is concerned with chihuahuas. (and I’ve now added to the issue because I had to look it up!)

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Patricia Kayden  May 30, 2017 • 7:40:23pm

re: #163 Charles Johnson

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Did he have anything to say about Ted Nugent threatening President Obama and Secretary Clinton’s lives? Or is his outrage saved for Ms. Griffin?

Keep in mind that Romney cozied up to Trump after the election in vain hopes of getting a position. This after Trump ran the vilest and most violent campaign in recent history. Romney can go and take several seats.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 7:40:42pm

re: #181 HappyWarrior

That should scare people. That a guy with as much National Security creds as I do can veto people like Mattis, McMaster, & Kelly.

I have more national security credibility than Kushner, and I haven’t been in the Navy for twenty-one years. (Ahh I’m getting old. I’ve been out longer than I’ve been in, and tomorrow’s my birthday to boot.)

Worse, Kushner lied on his SF-86. If I had done that, I would have been courts-martialed, convicted, tied to the bowsprit after I was keelhauled under an aircraft carrier, run up the yardarm then shot at dawn, and finally be shot off the bow from an aircraft catapult into shark-infested waters.

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2017 • 7:40:47pm
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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2017 • 7:41:04pm
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 7:41:50pm

re: #184 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

So does a lot of his stuff. That’s the creepiest thing about TheMajor.

Yes. Glad I’m not the only one seeing that.

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TedStriker  May 30, 2017 • 7:41:55pm

re: #187 Anymouse

I have more national security credibility than Kushner, and I haven’t been in the Navy for twenty-one years. (Ahh I’m getting old. I’ve been out longer than I’ve been in, and tomorrow’s my birthday to boot.)

Worse, Kushner lied on his SF-86. If I had done that, I would have been courts-martialed, convicted, tied to the bowsprit after I was keelhauled under an aircraft carrier, run up the yardarm then shot at dawn, and finally be shot off the bow from an aircraft catapult into shark-infested waters.

Then what was left of your corpse would have done eternity at Leavenworth Naval Consolidated Brig, Miramar.

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Targetpractice  May 30, 2017 • 7:42:07pm

So Kathy Griffin apologized, which means wingnuts will only keep bringing up this incident for the next…*counts on fingers* 16 years.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 7:42:30pm

re: #187 Anymouse

I have more national security credibility than Kushner, and I haven’t been in the Navy for twenty-one years. (Ahh I’m getting old. I’ve been out longer than I’ve been in, and tomorrow’s my birthday to boot.)

Worse, Kushner lied on his SF-86. If I had done that, I would have been courts-martialed, convicted, tied to the bowsprit after I was keelhauled under an aircraft carrier, run up the yardarm then shot at dawn, and finally be shot off the bow from an aircraft catapult into shark-infested waters.

It’s just disgraceful.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 7:43:00pm

re: #188 Charles Johnson

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He deserves every bit of it.

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TedStriker  May 30, 2017 • 7:43:08pm

re: #192 Targetpractice

So Kathy Griffin apologized, which means wingnuts will only keep bringing up this incident for the next…*counts on fingers* 16 years.

Till the end of time, just as long as they can continue to get mileage out of it bashing the Democrats.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 7:43:39pm

Oooh, a political pollster just called me in the middle of nowhere, Nebraska!!!!

Are you willing to take a political survey?

- Yes! I’m glad to hear someone is interested in our opinions here! (brief chitchat back and forth confirms not a robocall)

Okay, first question: Do you approve, disapprove, or have no opinion about Donald Trump’s performance as President?

- I disapprove.

[CLICK] brrrrrr……….

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 7:43:51pm

re: #192 Targetpractice

So Kathy Griffin apologized, which means wingnuts will only keep bringing up this incident for the next…*counts on fingers* 16 years.

Yeah pretty much. They’re still not over Natalie Maines saying she was ashamed to be from Texas but somehow we’re the snowflakes. Right guys.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 7:44:29pm

re: #195 TedStriker

Till the end of time, just as long as they can continue to get mileage out of it bashing the Democrats.

Kathy Griffin was once in the same state as DEMOCRAT NAME HERE!

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meteor  May 30, 2017 • 7:45:19pm

re: #178 The Major

Wow, that Cernovich is insane.

Image: 7180EF4F-B549-43F5-A210-1F3F096313BB_zpszdonjpnn.jpg

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Targetpractice  May 30, 2017 • 7:45:55pm

re: #195 TedStriker

Till the end of time, just as long as they can continue to get mileage out of it bashing the Democrats.

True, she’ll be the touchstone they go to for every following Democratic presidency until somebody comes along with something worse. The excuse they make for the wealth of horrific “art” they’ll produce from now until eternity.

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2017 • 7:46:12pm
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teleskiguy  May 30, 2017 • 7:47:31pm

re: #200 Targetpractice

True, she’ll be the touchstone they go to for every following Democratic presidency until somebody comes along with something worse. The excuse they make for the wealth of horrific “art” they’ll produce from now until eternity.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 7:47:46pm

re: #193 HappyWarrior

It’s just disgraceful.

I left out some alternative punishments like being tied to the mast and lashed, and tossed in the brig on bread-and-water rations, along with suspending my liberty card, but I don’t think they’d be -that- cruel… .

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 7:48:04pm

re: #201 Charles Johnson

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The last two people who should be lecturing anyone about this. Mr. I attacked Sandy Hook families. Fuck Alex Jones and his charade. I hope that asshole and Cerno go bankrupt and they can never use the internet again to spread their bulshit.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 7:48:51pm

re: #197 HappyWarrior

Yeah pretty much. They’re still not over Natalie Maines saying she was ashamed to be from Texas but somehow we’re the snowflakes. Right guys.

They’re still whinging about “Piss Christ” as a reason to defund the National Endowment of the Arts.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 7:49:52pm

re: #205 Anymouse

They’re still whining about “Piss Christ” as a reason to defund the National Endowment of the Arts.

Yep and I think Piss Christ was done before I was born and it’s not even an actual crucifix stuck in piss, it’s a photograph. Again who’s the snowflake?

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Unshaken Defiance  May 30, 2017 • 7:49:53pm

re: #197 HappyWarrior

Yeah pretty much. They’re still not over Natalie Maines saying she was ashamed to be from Texas but somehow we’re the snowflakes. Right guys.

When they apologize for the innumerable insults and caricatures of President Obama, I might pay attention. Maybe.

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ipsos  May 30, 2017 • 7:50:28pm

By the way, not to add to the stress, but did anyone else hear Nina Totenberg on NPR this morning talking about “growing rumors” that Justice Kennedy might step down from SCOTUS, giving the yam a second nominee?

Sweet dreams…. (Or not…)

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 7:50:48pm

re: #207 Unshaken Defiance

When they apologize for the innumerable insults and caricatures of President Obama, I might pay attention. Maybe.

Exactly. I mean I think what Griffith did was distasteful but I also wasn’t kissing Nugent’s ass when he talked the way he did about Obama and Hillary Clinton.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 7:51:20pm

re: #208 ipsos

By the way, not to add to the stress, but did anyone else hear Nina Totenberg on NPR this morning talking about “growing rumors” that Justice Kennedy might step down from SCOTUS, giving the yam a second nominee?

Sweet dreams…. (Or not…)

God I hope not. I’ve almost forgiven Kennedy for his bad vote on Bush v. Gore because he swung SSM to the majority.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2017 • 7:51:37pm

re: #208 ipsos

By the way, not to add to the stress, but did anyone else hear Nina Totenberg on NPR this morning talking about “growing rumors” that Justice Kennedy might step down from SCOTUS, giving the yam a second nominee?

Sweet dreams…. (Or not…)

The chances that he gets a second nominee are high. I wouldn’t put a third out of reach either.

These were the stakes. Now we just have to figure out where to go from here.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 7:53:13pm

re: #211 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The chances that he gets a second nominee are high. I wouldn’t put a third out of reach either.

These were the stakes. Now we just have to figure out where to go from here.

They truly were. The judiciary quite honestly along with FP was one of the most important reasons we had to elect Clinton. Even a moderate like Kennedy or Garland was going to be an improvement over any Republican selected justice.

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Stanley Sea  May 30, 2017 • 7:53:30pm

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  May 30, 2017 • 7:53:31pm

re: #131 Anymouse

in reference to Ms. Griffith’s tweet:

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Of course the Biblical story recounted in many paintings over the years is in the Book of Judith, so that would cue wingnuts to claim it’s not from the God-derived ancient modern English text of the KJV, nevermind the the KJV originally included the deuterocanonical (spell check wants electromechanical for this, a steampunk Bible I guess) books of the OT and is available today (at Amazon of all places).

But that’s too much thought.

Hey at least give KG credit. In many of the post-Renaissance depictions of Judith, she is in various stages of nudity - if she had been naked during that photo shoot, it would have caused a full-blown nuclear meltdown of the right-wingers.

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goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2017 • 7:55:41pm

re: #87 Charles Johnson

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I forgot to mention that yesterday I heard Jim Hoft interviewed on NPR like he was some kind of legit expert on NATO spending. It was hideous.

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Skip Intro  May 30, 2017 • 7:56:03pm

re: #214 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Not just right wingers, but where’s the sword? Why isn’t there a sword? That makes it art.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 7:56:35pm

re: #215 goddamnedfrank

I forgot to mention that yesterday I heard Jim Hoft interviewed on NPR like he was some kind of legit expert on NATO spending. It was hideous.

God I am glad I missed that.

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(Bert the Turtle)  May 30, 2017 • 7:56:49pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  May 30, 2017 • 7:56:55pm

re: #211 klys (maker of Silmarils)

The chances that he gets a second nominee are high. I wouldn’t put a third out of reach either.

These were the stakes. Now we just have to figure out where to go from here.

It was the one and only reason the Republicans held their collective nose and voted for Trump. They’re hanging with him until they have milked him for everything they can get. This is why we have to blow up the GOP when Trump finally goes down - the whole damn thing is just a pile of corruption.

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2017 • 7:56:56pm

re: #215 goddamnedfrank

Ugh.

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Barefoot Grin  May 30, 2017 • 7:57:18pm

re: #215 goddamnedfrank

I forgot to mention that yesterday I heard Jim Hoft interviewed on NPR like he was some kind of legit expert on NATO spending. It was hideous.

Are interns doing the vetting?

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teleskiguy  May 30, 2017 • 7:58:04pm

re: #215 goddamnedfrank

Jim Hoft on NPR?

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Barefoot Grin  May 30, 2017 • 7:58:19pm

re: #218 (Bert the Turtle)

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Pronounced: die-a-bet-us.

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Shiplord Kirel  May 30, 2017 • 7:58:28pm

re: #214 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

Hey at least give KG credit. In many of the post-Renaissance depictions of Judith, she is in various stages of nudity - if she had been naked during that photo shoot, it would have caused a full-blown nuclear meltdown of the right-wingers.

What a wonderful sight that would be!

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 7:58:29pm

re: #219 thedopefishlives

It was the one and only reason the Republicans held their collective nose and voted for Trump. They’re hanging with him until they have milked him for everything they can get. This is why we have to blow up the GOP when Trump finally goes down - the whole damn thing is just a pile of corruption.

Yep.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 7:58:52pm

re: #210 HappyWarrior

God I hope not. I’ve almost forgiven Kennedy for his bad vote on Bush v. Gore because he swung SSM to the majority.

Mostly (based on a cursory search) it seems to be news outlets quoting each other over rumours. No source for the rumours.

One site did go to Sandra Day O’Conner and asked her opinion. She seemed to suggest that although Justice Kennedy likes to keep people guessing, it would be highly unusual for a justice to retire in the middle of the term unless severely ill, Jus. Kennedy is acutely aware of his “legacy,” and he is in good health (so retirement to her at this time seems unlikely).

Several reporters noted the “rumours” story came from the Washington Examiner. The Chicago Tribune quoted Sen. Chuck Grassley as saying as soon as this summer, but he got that from Examiner.

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2017 • 7:59:15pm

re: #215 goddamnedfrank

I forgot to mention that yesterday I heard Jim Hoft interviewed on NPR like he was some kind of legit expert on NATO spending. It was hideous.

kosu.org

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 7:59:39pm

re: #226 Anymouse

Mostly (based on a cursory search) it seems to be news outlets quoting each other over rumours. No source for the rumours.

One site did go to Sandra Day O’Conner and asked her opinion. She seemed to suggest that although Justice Kennedy likes to keep people guessing, it would be highly unusual for a justice to retire in the middle of the term unless severely ill, Jus. Kennedy is acutely aware of his “legacy,” and he is in good health (so retirement to her at this time seems unlikely).

Several reporters noted the “rumours” story came from the Washington Examiner. The Chicago Tribune quoted Sen. Chuck Grassley as saying as soon as this summer, but he got that from Examiner.

That’s good. I’ll trust O’Connor over Grassley.

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2017 • 7:59:40pm
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freetoken  May 30, 2017 • 7:59:49pm

re: #223 Barefoot Grin

Pronounced: die-a-bet-us.

Actually, it’s pronounced wəˈskänsən, but the owner didn’t know how to Google it.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 8:00:08pm

re: #227 Charles Johnson

kosu.org

Totally ignoring how Hoft is a hack proven to be totally ignorant.

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Shiplord Kirel  May 30, 2017 • 8:00:23pm

re: #215 goddamnedfrank

I forgot to mention that yesterday I heard Jim Hoft interviewed on NPR like he was some kind of legit expert on NATO spending. It was hideous.

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2017 • 8:00:33pm

I think I’m going to be sick.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 8:00:39pm

Frank, does Hoft sound as stupid as I imagine him? I imagine Officer Barbrady’s voice when I see his face for some reason heh.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 8:00:51pm

re: #232 Shiplord Kirel

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Snap into an asshole!

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 8:01:30pm

re: #216 Skip Intro

Not just right wingers, but where’s the sword? Why isn’t there a sword? That makes it art.

Wonkette started selling a t-shirt (still available) of Hillary Clinton with a sword and a severed head, but Rebecca Shoenkopf does not have an instant platform for the media like Kathy Griffin does.

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(Bert the Turtle)  May 30, 2017 • 8:02:17pm

re: #223 Barefoot Grin

Pronounced: die-a-bet-us.

True story: That’s how my mother-in-law pronounces it. It drives my 19 yr old son nuts.
(I’m a lifelong type 1 diabetic & she was diagnosed w/ type 2 a few years ago)

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BeachDem  May 30, 2017 • 8:02:31pm

re: #213 Stanley Sea

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(Bert the Turtle)  May 30, 2017 • 8:02:55pm

re: #230 freetoken

Actually, it’s pronounced wəˈskänsən, but the owner didn’t know how to Google it.

Stop it now.

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freetoken  May 30, 2017 • 8:03:22pm

re: #233 Charles Johnson

This is the end result of all those pleas that we have to listen to the wingnuts and their idiotic faux-complaints.

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teleskiguy  May 30, 2017 • 8:03:27pm

SMOTI having that platform, granted legitimacy. Fuck, he has White House press credentials. Idiocracy, happening before our very eyes.

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Barefoot Grin  May 30, 2017 • 8:03:41pm

I’m all for investigating Jared—hell, yes. But I’m so sick of seeing the same five fashion-spread-like shots of him striking “thoughtful” poses when cable discusses him. Ivanka included ups the ick factor.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 8:03:54pm

re: #237 (Bert the Turtle)

True story: That’s how my mother-in-law pronounces it. It drives my 19 yr old son nuts.
(I’m a lifelong type 1 diabetic & she was diagnosed w/ type 2 a few years ago)

My grandmother I think says it like that too. Where’s MiL from out of curiousty? I’ve noticed that my Grandma pronounces some things differently than us despite she’s lived here in NOVA for over 60 years.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 8:04:57pm

re: #242 Barefoot Grin

I’m all for investigating Jared—hell, yes. But I’m so sick of seeing the same five fashion-spread-like shots of him striking “thoughtful” poses when cable discusses him. Ivanka included ups the ick factor.

Jared and Ivanka remind me of the nepotism I’ve read about in dictatorships. They’re something that if it happened in a place like oh I dunno Uzbekistan, wed’ go “Yeah that’s Uzbekistan for you” but it’s happening here.

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2017 • 8:05:15pm
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freetoken  May 30, 2017 • 8:05:30pm

I’ve listened to the idiots. That’s how I know their ignorant. I don’t have to give them any more leeway to spout their ignorance.

This is also why I don’t care for NPR. For quite some time now they have been compromised.

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(Bert the Turtle)  May 30, 2017 • 8:05:34pm

re: #243 HappyWarrior

My grandmother I think says it like that too. Where’s MiL from out of curiousty? I’ve noticed that my Grandma pronounces some things differently than us despite she’s lived here in NOVA for over 60 years.

Texas.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 8:05:44pm

You know, you expect that shit from FNC but not NPR.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 8:06:15pm

re: #247 (Bert the Turtle)

Texas.

Odd since my Grandma is from Western Pa.

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teleskiguy  May 30, 2017 • 8:06:49pm
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Barefoot Grin  May 30, 2017 • 8:07:20pm

re: #244 HappyWarrior

Jared and Ivanka remind me of the nepotism I’ve read about in dictatorships. They’re something that if it happened in a place like oh I dunno Uzbekistan, wed’ go “Yeah that’s Uzbekistan for you” but it’s happening here.

This can’t be said enough. It’s not normal.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 30, 2017 • 8:08:02pm

re: #209 HappyWarrior

Exactly. I mean I think what Griffith did was distasteful but I also wasn’t kissing Nugent’s ass when he talked the way he did about Obama and Hillary Clinton.

Distasteful? Like “grab the pussy”, and the Muslim ban, and sidling up to enemies whilst insulting friends? Right we know “distasteful”. Right from the oval office. I have zero patience for this after all that.

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2017 • 8:08:40pm
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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 8:08:55pm

re: #251 Barefoot Grin

This can’t be said enough. It’s not normal.

The whole bloody thing, man. I am wondering if I seriously should pretend to be Canadian when I’m abroad this summer. Didn’t feel that way with Bush by the way but Trump embarrasses me that much. I won’t though and here’s why. That fucker isn’t defining me as an American.

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2017 • 8:08:57pm
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freetoken  May 30, 2017 • 8:09:33pm

re: #253 Charles Johnson

It was an Oklahoma NPR station, correct?

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Targetpractice  May 30, 2017 • 8:09:35pm

re: #244 HappyWarrior

Jared and Ivanka remind me of the nepotism I’ve read about in dictatorships. They’re something that if it happened in a place like oh I dunno Uzbekistan, wed’ go “Yeah that’s Uzbekistan for you” but it’s happening here.

That’s because the kids of dictators generally are the public face of the regime. They’re a way to humanize their fathers, whether it be pictures of him doting on them as children, his taking pride in their “accomplishments,” or their shaping themselves up to be his “successor.” You can get that feeling that certain elements in the media are looking at Jared and Ivanka as the “heirs to the throne,” plotting out future political careers for the two.

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Barefoot Grin  May 30, 2017 • 8:10:54pm

re: #254 HappyWarrior

The whole bloody thing, man. I am wondering if I seriously should pretend to be Canadian when I’m abroad this summer. Didn’t feel that way with Bush by the way but Trump embarrasses me that much. I won’t though and here’s why. That fucker isn’t defining me as an American.

Might not hurt to sew a Canadian flag to your backpack.

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freetoken  May 30, 2017 • 8:11:38pm

I guess the author/host is stationed out of Boston:

pri.org

Is her interviewing Hoft some sort of attempt to “listen to” the other “side”????

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 8:11:52pm

re: #258 Barefoot Grin

Might not hurt to sew a Canadian flag to your backpack.

Wouldn’t rule it out.

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2017 • 8:12:14pm

re: #256 freetoken

It was an Oklahoma NPR station, correct?

No, “The World” is one of their main news programs.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 8:12:17pm

re: #257 Targetpractice

That’s because the kids of dictators generally are the public face of the regime. They’re a way to humanize their fathers, whether it be pictures of him doting on them as children, his taking pride in their “accomplishments,” or their shaping themselves up to be his “successor.” You can get that feeling that certain elements in the media are looking at Jared and Ivanka as the “heirs to the throne,” plotting out future political careers for the two.

Yeah, that’s the vibe I get too.

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Targetpractice  May 30, 2017 • 8:14:45pm

Speaking of “heirs,” I’ve noticed that the media hasn’t been giving Uday or Qusay much coverage in recent months. Aside from the talk the other day about the two butting into a GOP pow-wow to “help” their dad, all that talk last year of their possible futures in politics have fallen apart. All the focus now seems to be on Ivanka and Jared, even before the latter basically got outed as a Russian operative.

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goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2017 • 8:14:57pm

re: #261 Charles Johnson

No, “The World” is one of their main news programs.

It’s really fucking crazy. Totally pissed me off that Marco Werman didn’t correct Hoft on the 2% rule, which only applies after 2024.

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Mattand  May 30, 2017 • 8:16:39pm

re: #22 b.d.

Kathy Griffen killed Seth Rich in the pedophile pizza parlor with the email server.

Fox News Clue is the worst board game ever.

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ipsos  May 30, 2017 • 8:16:47pm

re: #261 Charles Johnson

No, “The World” is one of their main news programs.

But *not* NPR! It’s produced by PRI, which is owned by WGBH in Boston and which competes directly with NPR.

Blaming NPR for this interview would be like blaming LGF for something on dKos or Wonkette.

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Barefoot Grin  May 30, 2017 • 8:16:51pm

So, next on our NPR station is Sputnik Senior White House reporter….

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ipsos  May 30, 2017 • 8:17:48pm

re: #265 Mattand

Fox News Clue is the worst board game ever.

Nah. Hillary and Obama *always* did it.

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2017 • 8:17:54pm

re: #266 ipsos

The World is syndicated on hundreds of NPR stations.

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austin_blue  May 30, 2017 • 8:18:01pm

re: #261 Charles Johnson

No, “The World” is one of their main news programs.

It’s a BBC production.

Edit: “In conjunction with WGBH in Boston”.

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DodgerFan1988  May 30, 2017 • 8:18:40pm

No story on Jeremy Christian in breitbart.com
but Kathy Griffin has several articles in that website.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 8:18:58pm

re: #271 DodgerFan1988

No story on Jeremy Christian in breibart.com
but Kathy Griffin has several articles in that website.

Who is shocked?

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ipsos  May 30, 2017 • 8:22:31pm

re: #269 Charles Johnson

The World is syndicated on hundreds of NPR stations.

It is syndicated on hundreds of public radio stations, most of which also carry NPR-produced programming.

But it has nothing to do with NPR itself, and blaming NPR for Hoft’s appearance there is counterproductive.

The blame applies to PRI, to WGBH and to the BBC, which is a co-producer.

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Stanley Sea  May 30, 2017 • 8:22:37pm
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goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2017 • 8:22:38pm

re: #266 ipsos

But *not* NPR! It’s produced by PRI, which is owned by WGBH in Boston and which competes directly with NPR.

Blaming NPR for this interview would be like blaming LGF for something on dKos or Wonkette.

More like if Kathy Griffin gave a Cleveland Steamer to the Young Turks.

We’re losing the thread here people.

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2017 • 8:24:14pm

re: #273 ipsos

It is syndicated on hundreds of public radio stations, most of which also carry NPR-produced programming.

But it has nothing to do with NPR itself, and blaming NPR for Hoft’s appearance there is counterproductive.

The blame applies to PRI, to WGBH and to the BBC, which is a co-producer.

If NPR airs an interview with Jim Hoft, they’re just as culpable as the company that produced the interview. They could choose not to do this. They didn’t.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 8:24:57pm

re: #240 freetoken

This is the end result of all those pleas that we have to listen to the wingnuts and their idiotic faux-complaints.

Hey NPR! CNN! There’s a Hillary Clinton voter in the Nebraska Panhandle that would like to talk about voting for the majority candidate and living in most-Trump supporting House district!

{click} brrrrrrrrrr… . .

Something like that political survey I just got… .

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Ace-o-aces  May 30, 2017 • 8:25:15pm

re: #43 jaunte

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2017 • 8:25:37pm

That’s like saying I’d be blameless if I let someone post Milo Yiannopoulos articles on LGF. Hey, I didn’t actually produce them, did I?

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Barefoot Grin  May 30, 2017 • 8:25:40pm

People investigating Ivanka brand in China either arrested or disappeared:

apnews.com

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Citizen K  May 30, 2017 • 8:25:45pm

All I’ll say about Kathy Griffin and her dumb stunt:

And our political atmosphere still crucifies Dems for the sins of one person when thousands of similar incidents from GOP figures get literal fucking yawns. It never fucking ends.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2017 • 8:26:19pm

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goddamnedfrank  May 30, 2017 • 8:26:39pm

re: #273 ipsos

It is syndicated on hundreds of public radio stations, most of which also carry NPR-produced programming.

But it has nothing to do with NPR itself, and blaming NPR for Hoft’s appearance there is counterproductive.

The blame applies to PRI, to WGBH and to the BBC, which is a co-producer.

The guilt, deserved or not, goes with the association. At the local level NPR and PRI operate nearly as a gestalt organism. This is why advertiser boycotts work.

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bratwurst  May 30, 2017 • 8:27:50pm
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austin_blue  May 30, 2017 • 8:28:52pm

re: #276 Charles Johnson

If NPR’s airs an interview with Jim Hoft, they’re just as culpable as the company that produced the interview. They could choose not to do this. They didn’t.

PRI buys time slots on NPR stations. NPR has no control over the content. It’s like your local TV station running “Judge Judy”. If she picked up a Bren gun and machine-gunned the studio audience, it would be tough to say the local station was responsible when they had no editorial oversight.

Aim the guns at Marco, WGBH, PRI, and the Beeb, please.

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gocart mozart  May 30, 2017 • 8:29:12pm

If I can be on topic ;\)

Kushner could be indicted right now but it doesn’t surprise me that he is not. The Feds like to get all their ducks in a row and put their suspenders on over their belt and dot all their eyes and cross their tees and out gun you ten to one. When they move they move. They don’t play around.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 8:29:28pm

re: #280 Barefoot Grin

People investigating Ivanka brand in China either arrested or disappeared:

apnews.com

Let’s all pause and savor the piquancy that the means of production is largely controlled by Communist China.

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2017 • 8:29:50pm

re: #285 austin_blue

PRI buys time slots on NPR stations. NPR has no control over the content. It’s like your local TV station running “Judge Judy”. If she picked up a Bren gun and machine-gunned the studio audience, it would be tough to say the local station was responsible when they had no editorial oversight.

Aim the guns at Marco, WGBH, PRI, and the Beeb, please.

So if someone pays me to run an article by Milo Yiannopoulos, I’d be blameless?

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 8:32:23pm

re: #281 Citizen K

All I’ll say about Kathy Griffin and her dumb stunt:

[Embedded content]

And our political atmosphere still crucifies Dems for the sins of one person when thousands of similar incidents from GOP figures get literal fucking yawns. It never fucking ends.

Coulter talks that way about Dems and the right loves her for it. Griffith fucks up and the same right acts like she’s the most hateful person ever. F-u-c-k them and their fake outrage.

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makeitstop  May 30, 2017 • 8:32:48pm

re: #286 gocart mozart

If I can be on topic ;\)

Kushner could be indicted right now but it doesn’t surprise me that he is not. The Feds like to get all their ducks in a row and put their suspenders on over their belt and dot all their eyes and cross their tees and out gun you ten to one. When they move they move. They don’t play around.

Right. They know they’ve only got one shot at this, so they’re moving with deliberation.

As much as I’d like to see the whole lot of them taken down hard right now, I do get some residual enjoyment from thinking about the low-level anxiety they’re all feeling day after day while waiting for the other shoe to drop.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 8:32:57pm

re: #284 bratwurst

[Embedded content]

Yeah he really should shut up. We’ve seen Tagg’s tweet about how happy he was that Nuge was supporting your ass, Mitt.

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Mattand  May 30, 2017 • 8:34:07pm

re: #276 Charles Johnson

If NPR airs an interview with Jim Hoft, they’re just as culpable as the company that produced the interview. They could choose not to do this. They didn’t.

Honestly, I think “liberal” outlets are feeling pressured to go Magic Balance Fairy in order to placate/attract the Trump mouthbreathers. Look at all the Fox News refugees MSNBC keeps hiring, or CNN’s onward push to be Fox News Lite (not that they were even close to being liberal in the first place).

It’s kinda scary to a degree.

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bratwurst  May 30, 2017 • 8:35:15pm

re: #291 HappyWarrior

Yeah he really should shut up. We’ve seen Tagg’s tweet about how happy he was that Nuge was supporting your ass, Mitt.

This is where the great statesman Mitt Romney chooses to make his voice heard? To condemn a publicity stunt by a mediocre comedian who has already apologized?

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Charles Johnson  May 30, 2017 • 8:35:50pm

Kind of depressing how quickly even LGF readers are normalizing and brushing off someone like Jim Hoft being interviewed on “The World,” and aired across the nation on NPR. This shit is not right, and I refuse to get used to it.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 8:36:43pm

re: #285 austin_blue

PRI buys time slots on NPR stations. NPR has no control over the content. It’s like your local TV station running “Judge Judy”. If she picked up a Bren gun and machine-gunned the studio audience, it would be tough to say the local station was responsible when they had no editorial oversight.

Aim the guns at Marco, WGBH, PRI, and the Beeb, please.

Local stations can refuse time purchased. For example, when a television series has controversial content, frequently network affiliate stations say “hell no” and refuse to run that episode.

Local NPR stations can do the same, however, a local NPR station manager might not know who Jim Hoft is. (I’ll bet KTNE in Alliance has no idea, which is okay because they are too far away for us to get here, and they’re the closest.)

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Barefoot Grin  May 30, 2017 • 8:37:25pm

re: #287 The Ghost of Senator Incitatus

Let’s all pause and savor the piquancy that the means of production is largely controlled by Communist China.

My uneducated guess: Ivanka has no fucking clue how her bags are made and doesn’t care—just “get it done cheap.” It’s probably in the bailiwick of some PLA General who controls factories and doesn’t want/need the international attention that would piss off Beijing.

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teleskiguy  May 30, 2017 • 8:38:45pm

re: #294 Charles Johnson

Kind of depressing how quickly even LGF readers are normalizing and brushing off someone like Jim Hoft being interviewed on “The World,” and aired across the nation on NPR. This shit is not right, and I refuse to get used to it.

Not me, boss. I’m disgusted to the point of revulsion and it’s bringing me to a place of deep dark cynicism. This is not normal. Shit is fucked.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 8:39:15pm

re: #292 Mattand

Honestly, I think “liberal” outlets are feeling pressured to go Magic Balance Fairy in order to placate/attract the Trump mouthbreathers. Look at all the Fox News refugees MSNBC keeps hiring, or CNN’s onward push to be Fox News Lite (not that they were even close to being liberal in the first place).

It’s kinda scary to a degree.

It’s about access, not journalism. (Again.) They think they will be treated “better” by Trump’s cabal if they do this.

The right wing has been after the media my whole life. They do not learn. At least the German inter-war press went down fighting.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2017 • 8:39:58pm

I’m getting into hangry territory so I’ll just keep deleting my responses to things because they’re probably not helpful to anyone.

But I don’t think austin_blue or ipsos are trying to “normalize” anything, for the record.

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austin_blue  May 30, 2017 • 8:41:35pm

re: #288 Charles Johnson

So if someone pays me to run an article by Milo Yiannopoulos, I’d be blameless?

You would never know that there was an article by Milo before it was automatically posted to your board. This is the advantage of having editorial control over your content. NPR doesn’t have it like you do.

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The Ghost of Senator Incitatus  May 30, 2017 • 8:41:41pm

Pibil still has two hours. So dinner is pureed black beans and sous vide duck eggs on a potato bread bun.

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The Major  May 30, 2017 • 8:41:55pm

re: #294 Charles Johnson

Leave that to me….

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teleskiguy  May 30, 2017 • 8:42:34pm

Oh christ…

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ipsos  May 30, 2017 • 8:42:44pm

re: #279 Charles Johnson

That’s like saying I’d be blameless if I let someone post Milo Yiannopoulos articles on LGF. Hey, I didn’t actually produce them, did I?

I recognize I’m being tendentious about this, but with reason. Please hear me out:

NPR is a program production entity. It is a nonprofit based in Washington that produces and distributes programs such as “Morning Edition,” “All Things Considered” and “Weekend Edition.” It also co-produces and distributes a few other shows to member stations, such as “1A” and “Wait, Wait!” And it produces the Tiny Desk Concerts, for which we are all grateful.

NPR owns no radio stations. It does not and cannot exert control over what programming is carried by its hundreds of member stations, which are free to take programs from NPR or from its competitors. It has its own code of editorial standards and journalistic ethics, which it can enforce only on the programs that it produces, not on those produced by local stations or especially by NPR’s competitors.

PRI is one of those competitors. It has been owned by Boston’s WGBH for a few years now. It used to be based in Minnesota but is now based in Boston. It co-produces “The World” with the BBC and offers it to other public radio stations.

Other such competitors include APM, which produces “Marketplace,” and Pacifica, which distributes “Democracy Now!” (but no longer produces it, because everything that has to do with Pacifica is extremely complicated.)

Your local public radio station (KPCC, I’m guessing, in Charles’ case) is not “NPR.” Even if it brands itself as “Your NPR News Station,” it’s still not “NPR.” Only NPR is “NPR,” and it does not produce the show that carried the interview with Jim Hoft.

Blaming NPR for the Hoft interview because you heard it on KPCC, which bought the show from PRI, is like blaming Kellogg’s for whatever was in your General Mills Cheerios, just because they were next to the Froot Loops on the cereal shelf at Vons. Every local public radio station has its own different cereal shelf. Mine happens not to even carry “The World.” It’s like complaining to Charles about a Milo interview because some other blogger posted links to both Milo and LGF in the same post.

(And yes, I realize that “NPR” has become a generic term for “public radio,” which is a source of huge frustration for lots of people in the public radio industry, but we are fact-based people here, dammit, and just because “NPR” is common shorthand for “public radio” doesn’t mean NPR put Jim Hoft on the air any more than it means Kellogg’s made the Cheerios in my bowl.)

The blame here applies to WGBH, to the BBC and to PRI. You could make a case for extending it to KPCC or whatever local radio station is broadcasting “The World.” There are plenty of valid reasons to complain about what NPR itself does. This is not one of them.

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 8:43:25pm
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ipsos  May 30, 2017 • 8:45:12pm

re: #285 austin_blue

PRI buys time slots on NPR stations. NPR has no control over the content. It’s like your local TV station running “Judge Judy”. If she picked up a Bren gun and machine-gunned the studio audience, it would be tough to say the local station was responsible when they had no editorial oversight.

Aim the guns at Marco, WGBH, PRI, and the Beeb, please.

If I may add one correction here, it’s actually the other way around. Local public radio stations pay for shows like “The World.” They don’t get paid by the producers to carry them. PRI competes fiercely with NPR and other program producers to get local stations to carry its shows.

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The Major  May 30, 2017 • 8:45:16pm

re: #284 bratwurst

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Anymouse  May 30, 2017 • 8:46:11pm
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austin_blue  May 30, 2017 • 8:46:39pm

re: #304 ipsos

I recognize I’m being tendentious about this, but with reason. Please hear me out:

NPR is a program production entity. It is a nonprofit based in Washington that produces and distributes programs such as “Morning Edition,” “All Things Considered” and “Weekend Edition.” It also co-produces and distributes a few other shows to member stations, such as “1A” and “Wait, Wait!” And it produces the Tiny Desk Concerts, for which we are all grateful.

NPR owns no radio stations. It does not and cannot exert control over what programming is carried by its hundreds of member stations, which are free to take programs from NPR or from its competitors. It has its own code of editorial standards and journalistic ethics, which it can enforce only on the programs that it produces, not on those produced by local stations or especially by NPR’s competitors.

PRI is one of those competitors. It has been owned by Boston’s WGBH for a few years now. It used to be based in Minnesota but is now based in Boston. It co-produces “The World” with the BBC and offers it to other public radio stations.

Other such competitors include APM, which produces “Marketplace,” and Pacifica, which distributes “Democracy Now!” (but no longer produces it, because everything that has to do with Pacifica is extremely complicated.)

Your local public radio station (KPCC, I’m guessing, in Charles’ case) is not “NPR.” Even if it brands itself as “Your NPR News Station,” it’s still not “NPR.” Only NPR is “NPR,” and it does not produce the show that carried the interview with Jim Hoft.

Blaming NPR for the Hoft interview because you heard it on KPCC, which bought the show from PRI, is like blaming Kellogg’s for whatever was in your General Mills Cheerios, just because they were next to the Froot Loops on the cereal shelf at Vons. Every local public radio station has its own different cereal shelf. Mine happens not to even carry “The World.” It’s like complaining to Charles about a Milo interview because some other blogger posted links to both Milo and LGF in the same post.

(And yes, I realize that “NPR” has become a generic term for “public radio,” which is a source of huge frustration for lots of people in the public radio industry, but we are fact-based people here, dammit, and just because “NPR” is common shorthand for “public radio” doesn’t mean NPR put Jim Hoft on the air any more than it means Kellogg’s made the Cheerios in my bowl.)

The blame here applies to WGBH, to the BBC and to PRI. You could make a case for extending it to KPCC or whatever local radio station is broadcasting “The World.” There are plenty of valid reasons to complain about what NPR itself does. This is not one of them.

Thank you. Exactly correct.

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ipsos  May 30, 2017 • 8:47:31pm

re: #294 Charles Johnson

Kind of depressing how quickly even LGF readers are normalizing and brushing off someone like Jim Hoft being interviewed on “The World,” and aired across the nation on NPR. This shit is not right, and I refuse to get used to it.

For the record, I think having Hoft on “The World” is editorial malpractice of the highest order. I just want to make sure that the blame is falling on the parties that actually made that decision, not on a competing entity that had nothing to do with it. Isn’t that what we’re supposed to do in a responsible, reality-based environment?

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(Bert the Turtle)  May 30, 2017 • 8:48:06pm

re: #305 Anymouse

Janice gets barbecued in the replies.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  May 30, 2017 • 8:49:55pm

OT.

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The Major  May 30, 2017 • 8:51:05pm

re: #229 Charles Johnson

That sounds like Marco Wurman, the host of “Boston Calling” that airs on BBC World Service.

This is NOT going to stand with me….

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  May 30, 2017 • 8:53:53pm

re: #306 ipsos

If I may add one correction here, it’s actually the other way around. Local public radio stations pay for shows like “The World.” They don’t get paid by the producers to carry them. PRI competes fiercely with NPR and other program producers to get local stations to carry its shows.

I might be a bit behind the times here, but isn’t NPR and the affiliate stations all under the umbrella of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting? I know that they by law have to attempt fully balanced reporting by offering divergent viewpoints. That doesn’t excuse “The World” from considering Hoft as a credible guest, as there have to be dozens of people on the political right who would be able to speak on NATO-related issues.

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HappyWarrior  May 30, 2017 • 8:55:01pm

re: #293 bratwurst

This is where the great statesman Mitt Romney chooses to make his voice heard? To condemn a publicity stunt by a mediocre comedian who has already apologized?

Yeah no kidding. All that’s going on including a reporter being assaulted? And this is what Mtit speaks out on? He really is a lame ass.

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BeachDem  May 30, 2017 • 8:57:00pm

re: #284 bratwurst

[Embedded content]

I know I just posted it last thread, but it seems appropriate.

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teleskiguy  May 30, 2017 • 8:57:49pm

re: #316 BeachDem

That tweet is still live.

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Jebediah, RBG  May 30, 2017 • 9:02:47pm

re: #294 Charles Johnson

Kind of depressing how quickly even LGF readers are normalizing and brushing off someone like Jim Hoft being interviewed on “The World,” and aired across the nation on NPR. This shit is not right, and I refuse to get used to it.

Well, I guess I can only speak for myself, but I am disgusted and dismayed. It is extremely not right.

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BeachDem  May 30, 2017 • 9:06:50pm

re: #317 teleskiguy

That tweet is still live.

[Embedded content]

So I guess he’s still proud of it and still thinks it’s COOL?!

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ipsos  May 30, 2017 • 9:10:22pm

re: #314 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

CPB provides some funding to local stations. It doesn’t exercise editorial control. NPR gets little to no CPB money. PRI gets none, last I knew.

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wheat-dogg  May 30, 2017 • 9:13:12pm

re: #280 Barefoot Grin

People investigating Ivanka brand in China either arrested or disappeared:

apnews.com

The article is worth read in its entirety, especially for the political and economic background it provides.

In a nutshell, the Party is very worried about the state of the Chinese economy, which has been slowing down for the last two to three years. Maintaining political stability (i.e., Party control) requires a well fed and complacent populace. Should the economy start to falter, the people will start to ask questions and make demands that the Party cannot answer or provide. It is an open secret here that factory workers are routinely over-worked and underpaid. Their employers take advantage of migrants from other provinces who have no family connections or guanxi in the city where they work. And workers (who desperately need the jobs to support their families back home) are unlikely to complain. When enough of them get fed up and go on strike, maybe the government will step in, either to quell the protest or to make some charade of correcting problems.

At the same time, the Party is very sensitive about negative publicity, and the fact that the Trump name is associated with this particular investigation means even more international attention will be paid to it. So, the easiest solution for the Party is to make the investigation disappear — to maintain a “harmonious society” and avoid public embarrassment.

In short, those two men are in deep shit and I expect they will soon be forced to make public confessions on Chinese TV of inciting public disorder or some such BS before they will be released. And they will probably be under close surveillance for the rest of their lives.

I also expect the Trumps to ignore the entire affair, because money.


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