Thursday Night Acoustic Jam: Adam Palma, “Kentucky Miners”

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➤”Palm-istry” of virtuoso acoustic guitarist Adam Palma is out now!

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Composed, arranged and performed by Adam Palma

⋆⋆⋆ New album “Palm-istry” is out! ⋆⋆⋆
The new album of Polish-born, and now British, virtuoso acoustic guitarist Adam Palma is an energetic mixture of stunning original compositions and arrangements of well-known classics. Adam is one of the few guitarists - or maybe even the only one - to have been invited on-stage to join all three of the legendary guitarists, Al Di Meola, Tommy Emmanuel and Bireli Lagrene. The recognition and friendship of these masters have inspired Adam to record this fantastic solo album. Adam, however, went further: he turned this experience into his own statement of artistic expression that has attracted the attention of guitar magazines around the world.
“Palm-istry” is a mysterious journey inspired by Adam’s influences. We get some funky fingerstyle “Rheged”, rocking in “Healthy Optimism” and “Rock’n’Rules”, a Jimi Hendrix tribute “Hendrix Medley”, Adam’s new fascination triggered by his friendships with Al Di Meola (“Love and longing”, “Gondolier”), boom-chick as the consequence of years of cooperation with Tommy Emmanuel (“Kentucky Miners”), a tribute to Django Reinhardt (“Nuages”) and more, including two beautiful arrangements of themes of the Polish TV series (“07 come in” and “More Than Life at Stake”).

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austin_blue  Jul 13, 2017 • 10:10:27pm

Did anyone, in their wildest imagination, believe that we would be here today?

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MsJ  Jul 13, 2017 • 10:14:07pm

re: #1 austin_blue

Did anyone, in their wildest imagination, believe that we would be her today?

Yeah, actually. When Hillary said Trump was Putin’s puppet I paid attention.

Assuming that’s what you were talking about. 😢

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austin_blue  Jul 13, 2017 • 10:21:26pm

re: #2 MsJ

Yeah, actually. When Hillary said Trump was Putin’s puppet I paid attention.

Assuming that’s what you were talking about. 😢

Kinda sorta, but I was thinking about the overall State of the Union.

Calling Drumpf a puppet is one thing, but wondering if the US is a puppet state is an altogether different thing.

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austin_blue  Jul 13, 2017 • 10:24:32pm

And I’m off to bed. Sweet scaly dreams, dear friends.

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Kragar  Jul 13, 2017 • 10:47:47pm
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Kragar  Jul 13, 2017 • 10:53:16pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2017 • 11:50:57pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 13, 2017 • 11:55:09pm

re: #1 austin_blue

Did anyone, in their wildest imagination, believe that we would be here today?

DT is still President, the GOP still controls Congress, and both still have a lot of aces up their sleeves…

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teleskiguy  Jul 13, 2017 • 11:58:09pm
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freetoken  Jul 14, 2017 • 12:04:32am
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Cheechako  Jul 14, 2017 • 12:15:34am

I’m already back from my assignment on the Peekaboo Ck fire in NW Colorado. We put the fire out in a very short time.

Teleskiguy - passed through your hometown (Steamboat Springs) last Friday night at about 11:30. Could not believe the stench floating in the air. Then realized everyone was outside along the main drag smoking pot. Outside the pot shop were 40-50 people belching smoke into the air. Didn’t need to make a purchase to get high.

To each, his own.

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teleskiguy  Jul 14, 2017 • 1:31:54am

Here’s Fuckface Von Clownstick’s stump speech on his signature healthcare bill.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 14, 2017 • 1:44:26am

re: #12 teleskiguy

Here’s Fuckface Von Clownstick’s stump speech on his signature healthcare bill.

“Republican Senators…”

“…Republican Senators…”

“…Republican Senators…”

“…Republican Senators…”

Working hard to distance himself from imminent failure.

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darthstar  Jul 14, 2017 • 2:51:55am
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Dave In Austin  Jul 14, 2017 • 3:20:39am

Take that Flat Moon Society!!

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freetoken  Jul 14, 2017 • 4:01:55am

re: #15 Dave In Austin

All those battle scars, from the war in heaven between the Archangels and Satan.

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freetoken  Jul 14, 2017 • 4:09:10am

Speaking of which, the Super-Hero genre is well played out by now, I think, creatively if not in box office.

I wonder though why no one has made a feature length large screen production about Super Hero Jesus.

Nearly all films of old, and contemporary TV, work hard to have Gospel-based productions that seem like real history. All the way to methods of dress, foods characters eat, Roman soldiers in proper uniforms, etc.

But that leaves out the good parts of the Gospels. Jesus flying in the air (Superman) with Satan… or clearing out the entire Temple square of a couple hundred thousand square feet filled with hundreds or thousands of people (some Incredible Hulk type of action here)… or making a tree wither on command (super-psychic like Jean Grey).

Lots of good superhero stuff that could be put on screen. And much more in-tune with the actual content of the Gospels, rather than the previous Hollywood attempts at making Jesus just a Jewish guy.

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dangerman  Jul 14, 2017 • 4:40:14am

re: #12 teleskiguy

Here’s Fuckface Von Clownstick’s stump speech on his signature healthcare bill.

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failed ObamaCare replacement ” indeed

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 14, 2017 • 4:43:50am

re: #17 freetoken

Speaking of which, the Super-Hero genre is well played out by now, I think, creatively if not in box office.

I wonder though why no one has made a feature length large screen production about Super Hero Jesus.

Nearly all films of old, and contemporary TV, work hard to have Gospel-based productions that seem like real history. All the way to methods of dress, foods characters eat, Roman soldiers in proper uniforms, etc.

But that leaves out the good parts of the Gospels. Jesus flying in the air (Superman) with Satan… or clearing out the entire Temple square of a couple hundred thousand square feet filled with hundreds or thousands of people (some Incredible Hulk type of action here)… or making a tree wither on command (super-psychic like Jean Grey).

Lots of good superhero stuff that could be put on screen. And much more in-tune with the actual content of the Gospels, rather than the previous Hollywood attempts at making Jesus just a Jewish guy.

They already did something like that - it was called Kung Fu Hustle.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jul 14, 2017 • 5:04:11am

So the line yesterday was that the Democrats investigating Trump collusion with Russia is an attempted coup, mentioned at least twice. The Republicans have gone coup-coup.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2017 • 5:04:50am

re: #1 austin_blue

Did anyone, in their wildest imagination, believe that we would be here today?

I had thoughts that drUmpf might “pivot”, at least to a small degree, once the responsibilities of the Office settled on him. Oh, I knew he’d continue to be terrible, but I expected the terribleness to take on a more subtle cast.

What can I say? I was young and naïve way back in 2016.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2017 • 5:05:41am

re: #20 BlueSpotinAL

So the line yesterday was that the Democrats investigating Trump collusion with Russia is an attempted coup, mentioned at least twice. The Republicans have gone coup-coup.

Debating how many times I will steal that today.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2017 • 5:06:23am

re: #18 dangerman

failed ObamaCare replacement ” indeed

Represents his failed presidency well.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2017 • 5:09:37am

re: #20 BlueSpotinAL

So the line yesterday was that the Democrats investigating Trump collusion with Russia is an attempted coup, mentioned at least twice. The Republicans have gone coup-coup.

We never met with Russia or colluded with them. Dems are Fake news!

OK, yeah we met with the Russians to get dirt on Hillary. So what? Is there a LAW against that?

Dems investigating our collusion with Russia is illegal and is a coup.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 14, 2017 • 5:13:28am

re: #1 austin_blue

Did anyone, in their wildest imagination, believe that we would be here today?

Yes.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 14, 2017 • 5:13:56am
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Jul 14, 2017 • 5:23:51am
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b.d.  Jul 14, 2017 • 5:26:14am

The republicans are starting to sound an awful lot like this guy.

Attempted collusion!?!? Now, honestly, what is that?
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makeitstop  Jul 14, 2017 • 5:28:28am

Josh Marshall makes an important point about the Trump Cult’s ‘war on the media’ - at bottom, well, it’s all fucking fake news. Emphasis mine.

I was tempted to say this was a paradox. But it’s too straightforward for paradox. The key truth of Trumpism is that for all the purported hatred of “the media”, the main Trumpers are almost all fundamentally media creatures. They think in media terms. They are media creations.

Trump himself is a self-creation of the 80s and 90s New York City tabloid culture. His comeback in the early part of this century was driven more than most people understand by the success of The Apprentice. Why else do you think people in the Philippines or Kazakhstan paid millions to license Trump’s name? It was the brand driver of the licensing empire which allowed Trump to become the 45th President.

Steve Bannon was a publisher. Before that he was a movie producer. Jared Kushner bought a newspaper and used it to fight his battles in the press. On down the list they are all media people. They don’t hate the media. Indeed, they can only understand most battles in media terms. You see this in Kushner’s frenzied and inane demands to deploy communications office staffers to battle cable news producers over chyrons or “unleash surrogates immediately”, as a Politico story this afternoon has him demanding of Sean Spicer and Sarah Sanders.

They don’t “hate” the media anymore than fish hate the water. Shouting and messaging and attacks are the only language they really understand. What they hate is that they feel like they’re losing on the terrain they believe is the only one that really matters.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2017 • 5:42:09am

We didn’t meet with Russians or collude! This is completely ridiculous and offensive! The idea is completely preposterous! This is all FAKe News! We wouldn’t collude with Russia! Dems and media are obsessed with Russia because they lost!

OK, yeah, there was a meeting. About adoptions. A total nothingburger. We didn’t collude. Dumb Dems and media are obsessed with Russia!

Oh, here are my emails about this nothingburger meeting on adoptions. I’m so transparent!

OK, yeah we met with Russians to get dirt on Hilllary. but Dems set us up!

OK, yeah we met with Russians and colluded with Russia to get dirt on Hillary. Is there something WRONG with that? Dems would have done it too!

Dems and media obsessed with Russia because they LOST!!!

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Dave In Austin  Jul 14, 2017 • 5:44:09am

re: #16 freetoken

All those battle scars, from the war in heaven between the Archangels and Satan.

There are some definite divots there I never noticed in detail…. And a few glancing blows as well.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2017 • 5:49:09am

re: #12 teleskiguy

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2017 • 5:52:37am

Greets and saluts from the resistance in the soggy NYC metro area. The sky outside may be gray, but that’s nothing compared to the mood in the WH these days.

Every fucking day there’s a new revelation that Trump and his inner circle of cronies did stuff that would get ordinary Americans frog marched for. Lying on security clearance forms is no biggie for the GOP. Lying 100x on security clearance forms like Kushner did? Yeah, that’s still not getting more than a shrug.

But it’s not just Kushner. Junior failed to acknowledge that another Russian was in the meeting with him, Kushner, and Manafort.

Turns out that this guy was a former Soviet spook who is believed to still have connections to Russian intel services. In other words, if this meeting was all about adoption, the only possible explanation was that Putin was trying to adopt Trump. That’s funny, but it may also be true.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:05:14am

So. I’m sort of getting into this whole “buying groceries online and having them delivered” thing. I placed my order today, and I arranged to have it delivered tomorrow morning. The delivery charge is remarkably inexpensive; about $1.50 for a $38 order. And hopefully, it’ll be like last time, where the order showed up right on time. I’m using an online supermarket, kosik . cz; surprisingly, they’re really the only outfit here in the country that does it. Tesco, the British chain, does offer delivery but only in Prague and the surrounding area and a small part of Brno and Amazon doesn’t have a presence in the country yet, though they’re scheduled to by second quarter of next year.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:05:33am

re: #33 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the resistance in the soggy NYC metro area. The sky outside may be gray, but that’s nothing compared to the mood in the WH these days.

Every fucking day there’s a new revelation that Trump and his inner circle of cronies did stuff that would get ordinary Americans frog marched for. Lying on security clearance forms is no biggie for the GOP. Lying 100x on security clearance forms like Kushner did? Yeah, that’s still not getting more than a shrug.

But it’s not just Kushner. Junior failed to acknowledge that another Russian was in the meeting with him, Kushner, and Manafort.

Turns out that this guy was a former Soviet spook who is believed to still have connections to Russian intel services. In other words, if this meeting was all about adoption, the only possible explanation was that Putin was trying to adopt Trump. That’s funny, but it may also be true.

Yesterday: “The White House is strangely buoyant. They think they turned a corner this week…”

Today: ….in the interest of our great transparency, Which is beautiful transparency, believe me, there might have been someone else, a marginal person of no influence, at our nothingburger meeting at Trump Tower in June.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:07:06am

re: #13 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Not just to distance, but to blame the GOP for the failure to pass something he can sign.

It’s all a media show to Trump - he loves pomp and circumstance, and doesn’t care about the specifics.

His supporters are the same way. They blindly follow the same script.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:07:35am

re: #36 lawhawk

Not just to distance, but to blame the GOP for the failure to pass something he can sign.

It’s all a media show to Trump - he loves pomp and circumstance, and doesn’t care about the specifics.

His supporters are the same way. They blindly follow the same script.

He is so crushing it.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:08:29am

Bwhahahah…

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jaunte  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:10:56am
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Dr. Matt  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:12:58am
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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:13:39am

The right wing is pushing into real dangerous territory, and leading the charge - Hannity and Dobbs.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:16:20am

Last time I checked, this was called a lie:

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jeffreyw  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:18:38am

Flickr

Good morning!

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:18:45am

Morning…

So, what are these reports there was another individual in the Trump Tower meeting last June. Just saw it mentioned on a quick news segment on local TV.

Who the hell are they covering up for now?

And to touch on something from late last night regarding healthcare. I had posted Rand Paul was a firm no on the newest version of McConnell’s bill.

I see a few LGF members said Rand would buckle and fold. Do they realize the reason he isn’t going to vote in favor is because the bill is too much ACA and not enough cruel?

It is the contrast between the stand Rand is taking versus where Susan Collins is at that is wrecking it all for McConnell. There are others that lean toward Rand and others that lean toward Collins.

This is why there are many Republicans hiding in the background that really want it to fail so they can say they tried and it is time to work in a bi-partisan manner. They just can’t come out and say it because they boxed themselves in the last seven years.

And I have a feeling one of the people that wants it to fail the most is McConnell. He’s just about whipped. No time to stop beating on him and them now.

This is also a great example of politicians playing to their media that created their base. They can’t say and do what is right for this country when they know it is right.

Turn your TVs off politicians. Radios too. And stop the red meat interviews to hold onto that base. Try to do your freakin’ jobs for once.

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A wild WITHAK appeared!  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:19:35am

Someone with a puerile mind might add two little letters to this tweet and make it a bit more accurate…

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:20:46am

re: #44 ObserverArt

Erick son of Erick says that **if** this Russian spy was in this meeting it was a Dem setup.

I’m gobsmacked.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:23:08am

re: #41 lawhawk

The right wing is pushing into real dangerous territory, and leading the charge - Hannity and Dobbs.

So, to recap, in less than a week we’ve moved from “there were no meetings, yes there was a nothingburger meeting, OK yeah we colluded so what, Dem and media attention to this is an attempted coup.”

Can we please get through ONE DAY at least with no derp?

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:23:25am

Apparently Hillary has killed again
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darthstar  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:23:35am

re: #43 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Busy day at the breakfast buffet!

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:23:36am

re: #33 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the resistance in the soggy NYC metro area. The sky outside may be gray, but that’s nothing compared to the mood in the WH these days.

Every fucking day there’s a new revelation that Trump and his inner circle of cronies did stuff that would get ordinary Americans frog marched for. Lying on security clearance forms is no biggie for the GOP. Lying 100x on security clearance forms like Kushner did? Yeah, that’s still not getting more than a shrug.

But it’s not just Kushner. Junior failed to acknowledge that another Russian was in the meeting with him, Kushner, and Manafort.

Turns out that this guy was a former Soviet spook who is believed to still have connections to Russian intel services. In other words, if this meeting was all about adoption, the only possible explanation was that Putin was trying to adopt Trump. That’s funny, but it may also be true.

Just saw this comment. Thanks, you added some clarity to the new mystery man. Now they are covering up the cover up.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:24:29am

re: #46 Sir John Barron

Erick son of Erick says that **if** this Russian spy was in this meeting it was a Dem setup.

I’m gobsmacked.

Of course they would say that. The party of personal responsibility will never take responsibility for their own actions. By Junior’s own emails he thought it’d be awesome to get this info by the summer. That brought Kushner and Manafort into the fold too (and who knows who else).

That’s on all three - they didn’t care who was giving them the dirt, as long as it was on Clinton.

So, the defense is that they were set up and that they were entrapped by their own dumbassery? That’s what they’re going to go with. We know how they love to claim that terrorists and criminals caught in various law enforcement schemes are still guilty despite the entrapment claims. What is different about this situation. Oh wait, I know.

IOKIYAR.

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darthstar  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:24:45am

Why is MSNBC or any other network entertaining this ‘Nothingburger’ defense at all? Having the meeting was an intent to conspire against the US electoral process…period.

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jaunte  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:24:54am

re: #46 Sir John Barron

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:25:22am

The sheer deluge of information trickling out in response to all our lies is totes evidence of a Leftist coup against our great president.

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BlackPearl  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:25:48am

For Anymouse, if he’s still up, a frustrating (and clearly frustrated) article about your senator: slate.com

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:28:27am

re: #38 lawhawk

Bwhahahah…

Kevin M. Kruse ✔ @KevinMKruse
And now MSNBC reporting a sixth person in the meeting.
8:35 AM - 14 Jul 2017
91 91 Retweets 153 153 likes

What???

Can we throw these bums out just on the general issue they can’t say anything at all without lying and dodging. They haven’t been straight with anyone about anything ever.

Why do they even swear on a bible anymore? Hell, Trump did that at the inauguration and then ended up lying about the crowd that very day. Been downhill since.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:30:07am

re: #53 jaunte

so they set him up with a spy and then waited 9 months after the election to reveal?

Hey, it’s a known fact the the Dems play the long game.
I mean, look how long their whole operation was to get Kenyan born, Saul Alinsky trained, Barack Obama in the White House…
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:31:19am
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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:31:44am

This is a crazy situation over in Jerusalem. Apparent terror attack in Jerusalem at the Temple Mount. Two Israeli police were killed as three assailants opened fire on them from the Temple Mount (meaning the weapons were smuggled into the Temple Mount past Israeli security.

Leave it to the AP to mangle the location. It was within the area sacred to both Jews and Muslims.

Israeli security has closed off the entire area to all parishioners, and Abbas has been in contact with Netanyahu over it. Israel has reiterated that it will reopen the area to both Jews and Muslims once the investigation is completed. I suspect that there will be far more security thereafter.

I can’t wait for Trump to jump ugly with this news, because of course he will. That’s how he rolls.

Update:

The whole point of the terror attack was to get an overreaction and set the entire region afire with renewed conflict in Israel. Wider war, and conflict/misery for millions.

Leave it to Trump and his reactionary ignorance to try and fulfill the terrorists’ aims.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:33:13am
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freetoken  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:34:34am

re: #60 FormerDirtDart

It’s not as bad as the Rosenbergs - Now there’s a defense not tried in American politics before, at least at the top echelons.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:35:44am

re: #51 lawhawk

Of course they would say that. The party of personal responsibility will never take responsibility for their own actions. By Junior’s own emails he thought it’d be awesome to get this info by the summer. That brought Kushner and Manafort into the fold too (and who knows who else).

That’s on all three - they didn’t care who was giving them the dirt, as long as it was on Clinton.

So, the defense is that they were set up and that they were entrapped by their own dumbassery? That’s what they’re going to go with. We know how they love to claim that terrorists and criminals caught in various law enforcement schemes are still guilty despite the entrapment claims. What is different about this situation. Oh wait, I know.

IOKIYAR.

They’re so overwhelmed by all their lies being exposed the only conclusion they can draw is that it’s all a big set up and a coup.

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dangerman  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:36:41am

re: #51 lawhawk

… By Junior’s own emails he thought it’d be awesome to get this info by the summer. That brought Kushner and Manafort into the fold too (and who knows who else).

That’s on all three - they didn’t care who was giving them the dirt, as long as it was on Clinton.

worse - whether by machievellian genius or simple dumbassery, none of them thought this was wrong at the time

An Administration Without a Conscience

.. the most shocking thing is that no one on the Trump side was shocked. The most offensive thing is that no one took offense.

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:37:45am

re: #46 Sir John Barron

Erick son of Erick says that **if** this Russian spy was in this meeting it was a Dem setup.

I’m gobsmacked.

I hope all the absurdity of these clowns flailing all over with this bullshit makes more and more people wake the fuck up about what we did as a country last November. In one year we made this country a laughing stock.

I’m working on a song. It’s a bit nasty as far as sound wise. But I want it that way because last November was nasty.

One verse is:

You’ve taken an institution
Turned it into a joke.
How long will you be laughing.
How long will this seem funny.
How long will you…

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Decatur Deb  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:38:12am

There is a short fresh thread at Freep, echoing a PA town’s issue with Roma/Gypsy immigrants. The comment section is the most flat-out Nazi vomit I’ve seen on a non-Stormfront site.

They are out of the shadows, now.

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Belafon  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:39:39am

re: #34 Dr Lizardo

So. I’m sort of getting into this whole “buying groceries online and having them delivered” thing. I placed my order today, and I arranged to have it delivered tomorrow morning. The delivery charge is remarkably inexpensive; about $1.50 for a $38 order. And hopefully, it’ll be like last time, where the order showed up right on time. I’m using an online supermarket, kosik . cz; surprisingly, they’re really the only outfit here in the country that does it. Tesco, the British chain, does offer delivery but only in Prague and the surrounding area and a small part of Brno and Amazon doesn’t have a presence in the country yet, though they’re scheduled to by second quarter of next year.

Around 2000, we went through an online grocery phase here in the Dallas-Ft. Worth area. It was great. The food was really good, and I still have the refrigerator magnet of a lemon cut up to look like a pig. The problem was that it was easy enough to set them up that we quickly ended up with more stores than the area could handle and they all went out of business.

The newer model coming in is for grocery stores to collect all of the stuff and meet you at the curb. In order to keep the food fresh, you have to keep a warehouse about the same temp as a grocery store anyway, so why not also offer people the option of walking down the aisles?

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:40:26am

re: #61 freetoken

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:41:05am

re: #38 lawhawk

Bwhahahah…

And now MSNBC reporting a sixth person in the meeting.

Trump himself.

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freetoken  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:41:43am

re: #64 ObserverArt

Creationists in active denial of reality are inherently liars and incapable of not being liars. It’s all part of the denial syndrome.

This is why Son of Erick will not accept the truth about Trump, even though he doesn’t like Trump. Eric has to be in denial of criticism of Trump from anyone who might be tinged with Evolution. The only valid criticisms of Trump are Eric’s own criticisms, from religious dogma.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:41:44am

re: #63 dangerman

“I think many people would have held that meeting,” the president affirmed. It is the banality of this corruption that makes it so appalling. The president and his men are incapable of feeling shame about shameful things.

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lizardofid  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:41:49am

re: #66 Belafon

Around 2000, we went through an online grocery phase here in the Dallas-Ft. Worth area. It was great. The food was really good, and I still have the refrigerator magnet of a lemon cut up to look like a pig. The problem was that it was easy enough to set them up that we quickly ended up with more stores than the area could handle and they all went out of business.

The newer model coming in is for grocery stores to collect all of the stuff and meet you at the curb. In order to keep the food fresh, you have to keep a warehouse about the same temp as a grocery store anyway, so why not also offer people the option of walking down the aisles?

Our daughter loves the pick up service at Kroger. Her theory, which seems sound, is that it saves on impulse buying, along with being convenient.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:42:05am
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Decatur Deb  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:43:15am

re: #67 lawhawk

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My browser mushes retweets in some way. Was the Rosenberg comment from POTUS?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:43:15am

re: #65 Decatur Deb

There is a short fresh thread at Freep, echoing a PA town’s issue with Roma/Gypsy immigrants. The comment section is the most flat-out Nazi vomit I’ve seen on a non-Stormfront site.

They are out of the shadows, now.

Another reason why I’m glad I got out of there 35 years ago and I’ll never go back!

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:43:20am

From this, it isn’t clear whether they’re referring to the revelations from earlier this morning, or it’s yet another person.

Pass the popcorn
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jaunte  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:43:53am
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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:44:40am

re: #73 Decatur Deb

My browser mushes retweets in some way. Was the Rosenberg comment from POTUS?

Yes, it was from Trump himself:

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:44:59am

re: #61 freetoken

It’s not as bad as the Rosenbergs - Now there’s a defense not tried in American politics before, at least at the top echelons.

At least they are admitting they are in the conspiracy ballpark.

Jeebus Congress…they are putting up billboards announcing they screwed this country over with Russian help.

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Decatur Deb  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:46:15am

re: #77 lawhawk

Yes, it was from Trump himself:

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Before this is over, he’s going to pose on a balcony in a snappy uniform.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:47:03am

Thus far, not a great morning for the White House

“… U.S. District Judge Derrick Watson on Thursday ordered the government not to enforce the ban on grandparents, grandchildren, brothers-in-law, sisters-in-law, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews and cousins of people in the United States.

“Common sense, for instance, dictates that close family members be defined to include grandparents,” Watson said in his ruling. “Indeed grandparents are the epitome of close family members.”

Watson also ruled that the government may not exclude refugees who have formal assurance and promise of placement services from a resettlement agency in the U.S. …”

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:47:57am

re: #77 lawhawk

Yes, it was from Trump himself:

“Not many people know about the Rosenbergs…..”

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lizardofid  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:49:01am

re: #79 Decatur Deb

Before this is over, he’s going to pose on a balcony in a snappy uniform.

Rallies will get so large they have to move to zeppelin field air port.

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jaunte  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:49:06am

More unbelievable excuses and subordinate blaming from the Trump crew.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:49:56am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:50:11am

re: #80 FormerDirtDart

Thus far, not a great morning for the White House

“He’s crushing it”

//

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Decatur Deb  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:52:01am

re: #74 Joe Bacon 🌹

Another reason why I’m glad I got out of there 35 years ago and I’ll never go back!

The story fragment I could read in cache-lurk seems a normal exaggerated culture-clash thing. It’s the Freeper comments that show where the tower guards came from.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:54:16am

re: #83 jaunte

The SF 86 makes it explicitly clear on the form itself that lies/omissions from the form are criminal acts: false statements/concealment.

Penalties for Inaccurate or False Statements
The U.S. Criminal Code (title 18, section 1001) provides that knowingly falsifying or concealing a material fact is a felony which may result in fines and/or up to five (5)years imprisonment. In addition, Federal agencies generally fire, do not grant a security clearance, or disqualify individuals who have materially and deliberately falsified these forms, and this remains a part of the permanent record for future placements (emphasis added by me). Your prospects of placement or security clearance are better if you answer all questions truthfully and completely. You will have adequate opportunity to explain any information you provide on this form and to make your comments part of the record.

That’s on page fucking 2.

These people have repeatedly lied and omitted 100s of meetings in direct violation of the law. Kushner’s security clearance should not only have been revoked, but his arrest and charge with multiple counts of violations of 18 USC 1001 should be a foregone conclusion.

You don’t get to redo your clearance form. This isn’t a single meeting from years ago that was overlooked. It was 100+ meetings. That’s not some minor oversight. It was with intent to deceive.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:54:24am

re: #86 Decatur Deb

The story fragment I could read in cache-lurk seems a normal exaggerated culture-clash thing. It’s the Freeper comments that show where the tower guards came from.

The kind of George Wallace mindset the folks in my home town had…

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Decatur Deb  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:55:54am

re: #88 Joe Bacon 🌹

The kind of George Wallace mindset the folks in my home town had…

I spent a lot of too much time in McKee’s Rocks.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:57:37am

re: #83 jaunte

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More unbelievable excuses and subordinate blaming from the Trump crew.

Welcome to the underside of Jared’s bus.

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garzooma  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:59:16am

re: #1 austin_blue

Did anyone, in their wildest imagination, believe that we would be here today?

I did not expect the treason. I assumed Putin wanted Trump to win because he hates the US and wanted it run by an ignorant buffoon. There was simply no need for collusion, besides getting into Putin’s ill-disguised contempt for Trump.

Even Trump’s firing Comey I thought of as more like making himself an accessory after the fact, like Djokar Tsarnaev’s friends.

No, I did not expect this.

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2017 • 6:59:20am

re: #65 Decatur Deb

There is a short fresh thread at Freep, echoing a PA town’s issue with Roma/Gypsy immigrants. The comment section is the most flat-out Nazi vomit I’ve seen on a non-Stormfront site.

They are out of the shadows, now.

They started to come out of the shadows somewhere around January 2016. Now they are dancing in the sunlight.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:02:00am
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 43% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Fifty-seven percent (57%) disapprove.

The latest figures for Trump include 27% who ‘Strongly Approve’ of the way Trump is performing and 48% who ‘Strongly Disapprove’. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -21. (see trends).

Regular updates are posted Monday through Friday at 9:30 a.m. Eastern.

Rasmussen is pretty consistently +8 for Trump; that tells me, using the power of math, that Trump is probably around 35%, which is pretty consistent with other national polls.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:02:35am

re: #91 garzooma

I did not expect the treason. I assumed Putin wanted Trump to win because he hates the US and wanted it run by an ignorant buffoon. There was simply no need for collusion, besides getting into Putin’s ill-disguised contempt for Trump.

Even Trump’s firing Comey I thought of as more like making himself an accessory after the fact, like Djokar Tsarnaev’s friends.

No, I did not expect this.

this basically summarizes my 2016 opinion

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:02:40am

re: #66 Belafon

Around 2000, we went through an online grocery phase here in the Dallas-Ft. Worth area. It was great. The food was really good, and I still have the refrigerator magnet of a lemon cut up to look like a pig. The problem was that it was easy enough to set them up that we quickly ended up with more stores than the area could handle and they all went out of business.

The newer model coming in is for grocery stores to collect all of the stuff and meet you at the curb. In order to keep the food fresh, you have to keep a warehouse about the same temp as a grocery store anyway, so why not also offer people the option of walking down the aisles?

Online shopping won’t work for me. I use a Kroger that is located in the downtown area of Columbus. It is an area that is close to a lot of downtown living and offices.

If I didn’t go to the store, how could I get to see all the pretty women that shop there?

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:07:22am
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Dr Lizardo  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:07:26am

re: #95 ObserverArt

Online shopping won’t work for me. I use a Kroger that is located in the downtown area of Columbus. It is an area that is close to a lot of downtown living and offices.

If I didn’t go to the store, how could I get to see all the pretty women that shop there?

There are a few things I will go to the store for, typically, fruits and vegetables. Sometimes, speciality items not found in that online supermarket I mentioned, things like Asian food items, beard oil, etc.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:10:30am
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:13:25am
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:14:29am

re: #46 Sir John Barron

Erick son of Erick says that **if** this Russian spy was in this meeting it was a Dem setup.

I’m gobsmacked.

That’s been the consistent theme the little I’ve watched this morning. All the Trump-talkers are saying “why did Loretta Lynch allow this Russian lawyer into America?”

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:14:36am

re: #99 FormerDirtDart

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David Horowitz. Yeah he’s credible.//

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Belafon  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:16:29am

re: #95 ObserverArt

Online shopping won’t work for me. I use a Kroger that is located in the downtown area of Columbus. It is an area that is close to a lot of downtown living and offices.

If I didn’t go to the store, how could I get to see all the pretty women that shop there?

Our Kroger’s over curbside pickup. But that doesn’t help with site-seeing.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:17:02am

re: #100 Barefoot Grin

That’s been the consistent theme the little I’ve watched this morning. All the Trump-talkers are saying “why did Loretta Lynch allow this Russian lawyer into America?”

Yet these are the same people who want us to be pals with the Russians. Gotta cover all bases I guess.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:17:31am

Tough old man still tough

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:17:32am

By the way…has Backwoods Sleuth been around lately? I don’t recall seeing her the last day or so. I hope everything is okay.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:17:48am

re: #100 Barefoot Grin

That’s been the consistent theme the little I’ve watched this morning. All the Trump-talkers are saying “why did Loretta Lynch allow this Russian lawyer into America?”

Yeah. They’re obviously going with DONNIE JR WAS SET UP BY LORETTA LYNCH AND OBAMA - THEY WERE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF HIS NAÏVETE!!

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:18:05am

re: #103 HappyWarrior

Yet these are the same people who want us to be pals with the Russians. Gotta cover all bases I guess.

Deflecting lies with more lies gets tricky.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:19:28am
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Belafon  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:19:36am

re: #100 Barefoot Grin

That’s been the consistent theme the little I’ve watched this morning. All the Trump-talkers are saying “why did Loretta Lynch allow this Russian lawyer into America?”

“If you hadn’t left your wallet out, I wouldn’t have stolen the money from it.”

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:20:34am

re: #106 Dr Lizardo

Yeah. They’re obviously going with DONNIE JR WAS SET UP BY LORETTA LYNCH AND OBAMA - THEY WERE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF HIS NAÏVETE!!

This is the same Democratic party that threw teenage boys at Hastert when he was a teacher knowing they’d have the goods on him when he became Speaker of the House.////

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:21:23am

re: #107 Barefoot Grin

Deflecting lies with more lies gets tricky.

It is obvious they have gone way past the point of knowing all the lies and keeping them in order. It’s all seat-of-the-pants now…and that is with the Emperor’s clothes on.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:21:39am

re: #110 Barefoot Grin

This is the same Democratic party that threw teenage boys at Hastert when he was a teacher knowing they’d have the goods on him when he became Speaker of the House.////

The same people who convinced Newt Gingrich to have adulterous sex while he was impeaching Clinton!

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:23:20am

re: #112 HappyWarrior

The same people who convinced Newt Gingrich to have adulterous sex while he was impeaching Clinton!

The same people who set up Larry Craig in the men’s restroom at Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport!!

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Decatur Deb  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:24:09am

re: #104 FormerDirtDart

Tough old man still tough

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Fogey role model conflict: I really, really admire Carter, but I want to be Keith Richards.

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makeitstop  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:26:21am

re: #64 ObserverArt

I’m working on a song. It’s a bit nasty as far as sound wise. But I want it that way because last November was nasty.

One verse is:

You’ve taken an institution
Turned it into a joke.
How long will you be laughing.
How long will this seem funny.
How long will you…

I usually don’t post my own music here, but your comment brought this to mind, even down to a similar choice of lyrics!

This was the title track of a full album I wrote in 2002 about the Bush administration, but it can apply to the present gang of thugs as well. It’s called ‘Den Of Thieves.’

You learned well at your daddy’s knee
Nothing’s ever what it seems
You wanna take while the taking’s good
Wrecking lives and stealing dreams

Yo don’t want to lend a helping hand
You want to bring us all to our knees
Don’t talk to me about honor and dignity
You took my country, turned it into a den of thieves

Anger makes me wanna scream and shout
When I look at all the harm you’ve done
Freedom comes to those who pay
Justice comes from the barrel of a gun

You’ve thrown America half a world away
Flown away on the wings of a lie
You sit and laugh while the money rolls in
And out in that desert people die

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darthstar  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:28:44am

Yes, I’m getting Hamilton ear-worms from the Trump saga…

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:34:37am

This article traces the evolution of Republican talking points from Gateway Pundit through Drudge to more mainstream conservative media regarding Veselnitskaya as Obama operative.

buzzfeed.com

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:35:40am

Since we’re talking about things dropping… NIN dropped a new song:

Nine Inch Nails – LESS THAN

EP is coming out July 21.

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Oblongatis  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:35:57am

VegasGolfer,

I had the same pop up issue using my wife’s I-Pad for LGF. It’s a tidbit you picked up on another site. My would do it on other sites too but LGF triggered it every time.

Solution: Erase history, caches, cookies etc. turn the pad off and back on. Mine hasn’t popped back up in the past week. Good luck.

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Jay C  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:42:14am

re: #98 FormerDirtDart

Oh great! So the official investigator (Mueller) is probably going to have to go after a likely Russian spy in order to get an “independent” account of Donny T’s “nothingburger” meeting with Veselnitskaya?

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:43:24am

In other news, a judge tossed out a jury’s conviction of a woman who was charged with laughing at Sessions during Congressional testimony:

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VegasGolfer  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:43:32am

re: #119 Oblongatis

VegasGolfer,

I had the same pop up issue using my wife’s I-Pad for LGF. It’s a tidbit you picked up on another site. My would do it on other sites too but LGF triggered it every time.

Solution: Erase history, caches, cookies etc. turn the pad off and back on. Mine hasn’t popped back up in the past week. Good luck.

I know to do all those things when something like that happens, but it happens on different isp’s, routers, lte networks etc, so i’m pretty sure it is the website. Its only happend on one other website I visit, but they have taken measures on their end after multiple complaints by other users, and the admins fixed the problem.

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b.d.  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:43:49am

re: #120 Jay C

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Oh great! So the official investigator (Mueller) is probably going to have to go after a likely Russian spy in order to get an “independent” account of Donny T’s “nothingburger” meeting with Veselnitskaya?

Former spy…..former! It’s a lot like retired mobster…..

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Unshaken Defiance  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:44:29am

re: #120 Jay C

It’s an inch of thread in a tapestry. Gonna get a lot of this before it’s over, and Mueller sums up the parts for prosecutions.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:44:37am

re: #73 Decatur Deb

Hit the “images” button - it will show ea tweet text alone.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:45:46am

re: #55 BlackPearl

For Anymouse, if he’s still up, a frustrating (and clearly frustrated) article about your senator: slate.com

I’m up for now, but was elsewhere on the Internet.

The article notes that Senator Sasse has gone along with Trump 95% of the time, despite being a “never Trumper.” I had hopes for him when he came out strongly against Mr. Trump in the primaries, but he is falling in line like a good apparatchik.

Moreover, Sen. Sasse is a history major. He (should) know better. I thought at the time as a new face in the GOP he was trying to position himself as the voice of reason, so when it all came apart he could come out and say “I told you so” to his own party.

Seems not. I really want to know where the Republican politician stamping plant is located, so we can have it inspected.

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jaunte  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:46:58am
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:50:47am
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:52:25am
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makeitstop  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:53:27am

re: #118 lawhawk

Since we’re talking about things dropping… NIN dropped a new song:

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Video

EP is coming out July 21.

So happy to hear Trent sounding like the Trent of old.

Gotta figure Trump’s got him all fired up.

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:54:54am

re: #126 Anymouse 🌹

I’m up for now, but was elsewhere on the Internet.

The article notes that Senator Sasse has gone along with Trump 95% of the time, despite being a “never Trumper.” I had hopes for him when he came out strongly against Mr. Trump in the primaries, but he is falling in line like a good apparatchik.

Moreover, Sen. Sasse is a history major. He (should) know better. I thought at the time as a new face in the GOP he was trying to position himself as the voice of reason, so when it all came apart he could come out and say “I told you so” to his own party.

Seems not. I really want to know where the Republican politician stamping plant is located, so we can have it inspected.

Inspected? Have it shut down and moved to Russia. They seem to want to be there anyway.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:55:26am

re: #99 FormerDirtDart

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So now they’re admitting it’s a Kremlin connected lawyer.

Fucking amazing.

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makeitstop  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:58:14am

re: #128 FormerDirtDart

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That’s great! Macron obviously gets it, Fatass obviously doesn’t.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2017 • 7:58:21am

THIS FUCKING STUPID HANDSHAKE GAME

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Stanley Sea  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:01:14am

re: #134 The Vicious Babushka

THIS FUCKING STUPID HANDSHAKE GAME

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From last night

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:01:35am

re: #87 lawhawk

As an enlisted Navy person, had I lied on my security clearance forms, I would be in Leavenworth making big rocks into little rocks, and little rocks into sand.

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jaunte  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:04:38am

And the whole set slips neatly into Putin’s pocket.

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:06:50am

re: #136 Anymouse 🌹

As an enlisted Navy person, had I lied on my security clearance forms, I would be in Leavenworth making big rocks into little rocks, and little rocks into sand.

The GOP don’t care. #GOPDontCare - doesn’t just apply to health coverage.

It’s their entire worldview (except for tax cuts, that’s the only thing they do care about - when it applies to millionaires like Trump).

Anyone other than this cabal of cronies doing what they’ve done would be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. The prosecutions may still be forthcoming, but the GOP is running interference to keep Kushner and Sessions from feeling any of the ramifications that any ordinary member of the US military or civilian government would face had they done what Kushner did - lie wholesale on their SF 86.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:07:10am

re: #137 jaunte

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And the whole set slips neatly into Putin’s pocket.

Who is the littlest one? Tiffany or Ivanka’s kid?

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jaunte  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:07:59am

re: #139 The Vicious Babushka

It’s hard to see, but I’d guess it’s done from a younger pic of Tiffany.

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:09:45am

re: #135 Stanley Sea

From last night

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I hope some male leader grabs his arm while shaking hands like Trump likes to do and then pulls down on his shoulder and pops it out of joint. That’ll teach him.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:10:41am

Off-topic:

I ran across a comment over at Wonkette in the middle of a discussion about sewing.

I know about as much about sewing as I do about high-speed stock trades, but the gist of the comment thread was someone found a Website that sells vintage clothing patterns by Simplicity, McCalls, &c.

I mentioned that to my wife, and she was “oboyoboyoboyoboy.” She jumped in and ordered patterns for mod clothes for me circa 1970 (that ought to go over well here), and a dress called a “walk-away wrap dress” that was so popular at the time (1952) that Butterick had to suspend production of all patterns to keep up with that one.

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austin_blue  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:11:13am

re: #58 FormerDirtDart

The whole point of the terror attack was to get an overreaction and set the entire region afire with renewed conflict in Israel. Wider war, and conflict/misery for millions.

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Oh, so they wanted to start a race war with the opposition? Where have I heard that before?

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Stanley Sea  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:11:41am
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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:13:15am

Want to reduce officer involved shootings; change the law:

It wont stop all officer involved shootings, but it does give clearer guidance on when deadly force can and should be used. And it works. This goes hand in hand with training and tactics, as well as making sure that officers that are disciplined and fired for excessive force aren’t able to find jobs elsewhere despite their record.

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:13:40am

re: #144 Stanley Sea

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Arrrgh! My eyes.

The healthiest President ever. Uh huh. Sure.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:14:06am

Heh, dehydration my ass.
They took this terminator in for a scheduled oil change

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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:16:36am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:17:12am

re: #145 lawhawk

Want to reduce officer involved shootings; change the law:

[Embedded content]

It wont stop all officer involved shootings, but it does give clearer guidance on when deadly force can and should be used. And it works. This goes hand in hand with training and tactics, as well as making sure that officers that are disciplined and fired for excessive force aren’t able to find jobs elsewhere despite their record.

Surprising to see that in TN.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:17:29am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:17:56am

re: #148 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Such a classy bunch.

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BlackPearl  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:18:44am

re: #142 Anymouse 🌹

Off-topic:

I ran across a comment over at Wonkette in the middle of a discussion about sewing.

I know about as much about sewing as I do about high-speed stock trades, but the gist of the comment thread was someone found a Website that sells vintage clothing patterns by Simplicity, McCalls, &c.

I mentioned that to my wife, and she was “oboyoboyoboyoboy.” She jumped in and ordered patterns for mod clothes for me circa 1970 (that ought to go over well here), and a dress called a “walk-away wrap dress” that was so popular at the time (1952) that Butterick had to suspend production of all patterns to keep up with that one.

Ahem. And where is the link???

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:18:57am

re: #144 Stanley Sea

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The last person who should be shaming anyone’s looks.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:20:36am
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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:24:57am

re: #154 FormerDirtDart

Even that infographic is incomplete, since under Donny Jr and Manafort they should refer to fact that Kushner, Manafort, and Jr. all attended that meeting with multiple Russian nationals with intent to get dirt from Russian intel on Clinton.

Of that group, Manafort would be most familiar with the law - and he did nothing (unless he’s singing like a canary to the investigators in lieu for a plea deal).

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:25:38am

re: #152 BlackPearl

Ahem. And where is the link???

vintagepatterns.wikia.com

From the main page, you can go to various samples, or different decades, or such. If you find a pattern you like, the page will take you to printers or resellers that have the pattern.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:29:21am

re: #152 BlackPearl

Ahem. And where is the link???

Etsy sells vintage patterns.

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BlackPearl  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:31:38am

re: #156 Anymouse 🌹

Thank you!

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:33:25am

No, not The Onion…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:35:59am

re: #159 FormerDirtDart

No, not The Onion…

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That’s convicted murderer, Don King.

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makeitstop  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:36:06am

Uh-oh. Trump’s lawyer might be a crazy bastard, but even he realizes it might be time to slowly back away from the tire fire in a dumpster.

Some of the President’s closest aides, who were traveling with him back from Europe, then helped strategize about a response for Trump Jr., according to people briefed on the matter. The Times first reported on the crafting of the statement.

A sensitive legal matter such as this would normally have been handled by the attorneys, given that it was about the Russia investigation.

But the President’s lawyer, Marc Kasowitz, who is designated to handle personal legal issues, was not traveling with the President and was largely uninvolved, according to the people familiar with the matter. The Times reported Wednesday that the President himself approved the statement, raising the possibility the President may have opened himself up to new legal issues not covered by attorney-client privilege. Jay Sekulow, the President’s attorney, denied that Trump was involved.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:37:18am

Thread

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:37:42am

re: #159 FormerDirtDart

No, not The Onion…

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Who were the others that were in Trump’s shoes?

Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette?
Tzar Nicholas and his family?
Nicolai Ceausescu?

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:38:23am

re: #162 FormerDirtDart

Thread

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Good thread.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:40:47am

OFFS

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:40:48am

King talking that way to Trump will only add to his paranoia.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:40:57am

re: #162 FormerDirtDart

Many, many years ago, I became a Freemason. There’s usually something a background check involved, though to be honest, I never asked how extensive it is.

I doubt anyone in the current White House three-ring circus would make it.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:42:15am

re: #165 The Vicious Babushka

OFFS

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Because no one would ever attack Hillary’s husband right?

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:43:11am

re: #168 HappyWarrior

Because no one would ever attack Hillary’s husband right?

I think Fox is trying to claim that Hillary set Jane up or some other stupid shit.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:43:31am

re: #167 Dr Lizardo

Many, many years ago, I became a Freemason. There’s usually something a background check involved, though to be honest, I never asked how extensive it is.

I doubt anyone in the current White House three-ring circus would make it.

My mom had to get her security clearance before. It really is amazing how these assholes flat out don’t think the rules are for them. Everything they talked about Clinton having a problem with was themselves and their damned cult will never see that.

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Belafon  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:43:32am

re: #165 The Vicious Babushka

OFFS

Not clicking on the link, but considering there was no attack…so?

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BeachDem  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:44:07am

re: #108 FormerDirtDart

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I thought he was sitting at his desk, waiting to sign the healthcare bill.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:44:09am

re: #169 The Vicious Babushka

I think Fox is trying to claim that Hillary set Jane up or some other stupid shit.

Probably. Jane from what I understand has a lot of ethical problems of her own.

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Belafon  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:44:44am

re: #169 The Vicious Babushka

I think Fox is trying to claim that Hillary set Jane up or some other stupid shit.

“Democrats told the bank to give Jane’s college a loan to ruin Sander’s chances at the nomination.”

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Interesting Times  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:45:42am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:45:49am

re: #171 Belafon

Not clicking on the link, but considering there was no attack…so?

TBH the Clinton campaign ignored a lot of stuff with Sanders’ record that I would have pounced on. BTW Sanders does have a Democratic challenger who is sort of attacking him from the left.
nbcnews.com

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jaunte  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:48:36am

This is your party, Michael Steele. Lie down with dogs…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:50:32am

re: #177 jaunte

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This is your party, Michael Steele. Lie down with dogs…

Mike, your party’s voters voted for him. Trump would be just another crank if the voters in your party weren’t receptive to his message but they were. Ask yourself why that is instead of acting like this is just Trump.

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jaunte  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:57:33am

re: #179 Anymouse 🌹

From the Wonkette story:

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2017 • 8:58:01am

re: #165 The Vicious Babushka

Fox: How can we divert attention from the shitshow that is our administration?

Fox: Let’s try this—

Hillary Clinton’s plan to attack Bernie Sanders’ wifehttps://t.co

— Fox News

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Mattand  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:01:12am

re: #179 Anymouse 🌹

How Many Goddamn Russian Spies Came To Trump Junior’s Russian Conspiracy Meeting? (goes to Wonkette)

LOL, I came here to post a Wonkette post with that touches on Russia as well:

Chuck Todd Figures Out Thing | Wonkette

In which our intrepid boy reporter finally gets whacked with a fucking clue stick and realizes that maybe… just maybe… the Trump campaign colluded with the Russian government to fuck shit up in the 2016 election.

Best comment of the day from Wonkette member insolenttomato:

I pray his goatee becomes sentient and starts doing actual journalism.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:03:27am

re: #180 jaunte

I responded in the comment section there:

I just read it out to my wife and she gave me a funny look … she’s also smart enough to ensure her browser history is deleted.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:04:21am

re: #181 Sir John Barron

Fox: How can we divert attention from the shitshow that is our administration?

Fox: Let’s try this—

And you know what, I bet the BBs will take the bait because they’re idiots. BTW, the more I read about Bernie, the more I want his 2020 candidacy to crash and burn fast.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:05:30am

re: #178 HappyWarrior

Mike, your party’s voters voted for him. Trump would be just another crank if the voters in your party weren’t receptive to his message but they were. Ask yourself why that is instead of acting like this is just Trump.

Republicans have been training their voters for this moment all my life. During the Reagan Administration Senator Barry Goldwater warned the party about that in a speech on the Senate floor. They didn’t listen to him.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:06:40am

re: #185 Anymouse 🌹

Republicans have been training their voters for this moment all my life. During the Reagan Administration Senator Barry Goldwater warned the party about that in a speech on the Senate floor. They didn’t listen to him.

Nope, they didn’t. There’s a good amount I disagreed with Goldwater on but Goldwater saw the disgusting entity that is the RR.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:08:31am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:09:05am

re: #187 FormerDirtDart

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Wouldn’t be the GOP without a healthy dosage of hypocrisy.

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retired cynic  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:11:12am

Just got one of my Senator Durbin’s emails:

The Durbin Report: President Trump Needs To Stand Up To Russia For Attacking Our Democracy

Fellow Illinoisan,

Just last week, we celebrated America’s independence and reaffirmed our faith in our great experiment in democracy. This week, that great experiment of ours is under threat. Because of Russian arrogance and President Donald Trump’s inability to level with the American people, we face the danger of a constitutional crisis.

It seems like every 15 minutes, there is a new story about the president’s associates’ interactions with Russia. And now the president’s son, Donald Trump Jr., is involved.

Trump Jr. met last year with a foreign person who claimed to be working with the Russian government and promised to help his father win the election. Based on the emails that Trump Jr. himself released, it appears that he colluded with Russia to affect the outcome of our election and may have violated federal law. To make matters worse, this news came out on the heels of President Trump’s G-20 meeting in Warsaw where he made the ridiculous suggestion that we partner with Russia on a cybersecurity task force.

Meanwhile, the White House response to all of this has been misdirection, denial, and silence. So what can Americans and lawmakers do about it?

First, Republicans in the House should stop coddling Russia and pass the Senate’s Russia sanctions bill. Second, the White House needs to work with us to protect states’ election infrastructure. And third, Congress must engage in a comprehensive investigation to get to the bottom of what occurred in this dark chapter of America’s history. President Trump needs to stop stonewalling and let Congress and Special Prosecutor Bob Mueller do their job.

Two hundred and forty one years ago, our founding fathers had the courage to risk their lives for the inalienable rights that we all cherish. It is now up to us to defend those rights from Russian meddling and presidential intrigue.

Sincerely,

U.S. Senator Dick Durbin

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:11:23am

re: #188 HappyWarrior

Wouldn’t be the GOP without a healthy dosage of hypocrisy.

“Our stability funding is better stability funding”

/

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Stanley Sea  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:14:04am

This guy’s a monster

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:14:06am

re: #189 retired cynic

Just got one of my Senator Durbin’s emails:

The Durbin Report: President Trump Needs To Stand Up To Russia For Attacking Our Democracy

Fellow Illinoisan,

Just last week, we celebrated America’s independence and reaffirmed our faith in our great experiment in democracy. This week, that great experiment of ours is under threat. Because of Russian arrogance and President Donald Trump’s inability to level with the American people, we face the danger of a constitutional crisis.

It seems like every 15 minutes, there is a new story about the president’s associates’ interactions with Russia. And now the president’s son, Donald Trump Jr., is involved.

Trump Jr. met last year with a foreign person who claimed to be working with the Russian government and promised to help his father win the election. Based on the emails that Trump Jr. himself released, it appears that he colluded with Russia to affect the outcome of our election and may have violated federal law. To make matters worse, this news came out on the heels of President Trump’s G-20 meeting in Warsaw where he made the ridiculous suggestion that we partner with Russia on a cybersecurity task force.

Meanwhile, the White House response to all of this has been misdirection, denial, and silence. So what can Americans and lawmakers do about it?

First, Republicans in the House should stop coddling Russia and pass the Senate’s Russia sanctions bill. Second, the White House needs to work with us to protect states’ election infrastructure. And third, Congress must engage in a comprehensive investigation to get to the bottom of what occurred in this dark chapter of America’s history. President Trump needs to stop stonewalling and let Congress and Special Prosecutor Bob Mueller do their job.

Two hundred and forty one years ago, our founding fathers had the courage to risk their lives for the inalienable rights that we all cherish. It is now up to us to defend those rights from Russian meddling and presidential intrigue.

Sincerely,

U.S. Senator Dick Durbin

This is totally a coup. //

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:17:25am

I follow the SPLC’s page on Facebook. They have been posting stories about men and women of color who were murdered by whites and whose killers were never prosecuted or outright acquitted due to racism on juries. Today’s story:
Zennie Fuller, who was white, owned a septic tank installation service in Monroe, Louisiana. He owed Albert and David Pitts, Marshall Johns, Ernest McPharland, and Willie Gibson, who were black, back-wages.

When they tried to ask him about their paychecks, Fuller — who eventually became a Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan —shot them to death.

Fifty-seven years later, their families have received no justice. They’re just some of the Forgotten

My mother was not even a year old in 1960 when this happened. It’s NOT ancient history.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:18:10am

re: #83 jaunte

“a member of [Kushner’s] staff prematurely hit the ‘send’ button for the [clearance] form before it was completed”

Remember Rosemary Woods “accidentally” erasing 18 minutes of White House tapes?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:18:47am

re: #187 FormerDirtDart

And that $182 billion claim is a fib too. Their supposed “savings” come from counting the same pot of money three times.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:19:12am

re: #193 HappyWarrior

the killer wasn’t convicted or tried?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:20:27am

re: #96 FormerDirtDart

Who will be the intrepid reporter that lands an interview with someone who has fallen victim to a heroin catapult attack?

Tony Hillerman wrote a novel, Sinister Pig, about using underground mine tunnels like pneumatic tubes to shoot drugs under and across the border, a “pig” in this sense being a term for the containers used in such a system.

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EPR-radar  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:21:39am

re: #184 HappyWarrior

And you know what, I bet the BBs will take the bait because they’re idiots. BTW, the more I read about Bernie, the more I want his 2020 candidacy to crash and burn fast.

Hell no to Bernie Sanders in 2020. He’s already done way too much damage, between screwing up his central message and not really trying to curb the excesses of the BernieBros.

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jaunte  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:21:51am
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Jay C  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:22:01am

re: #196 Sir John Barron

the killer wasn’t convicted or tried?

It was Louisiana in 1960: he probably wasn’t even investigated.

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wrenchwench  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:24:01am

re: #191 Stanley Sea

This guy’s a monster

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That tells me that one of two things could be true:

1) Putin can’t keep his minions quiet and their big mouths will weaken him, or

2) Trump will launch the first nuke in ‘self-defense’ when he sees that.

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BeachDem  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:24:15am

re: #187 FormerDirtDart

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If anyone has kept a close eye on all things healthcare/ACA, it is Charles Gaba.

(Sadly, he sort of had to abandon the GOP Rape Advisory directory to keep up with the healthcare stuff.)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:24:28am

re: #196 Sir John Barron

the killer wasn’t convicted or tried?

He was investigated and released.

lsucoldcaseproject.com

The Unsolved Civil Rights-Era Murders Project at LSU’s Manship School of Mass Communication, through the Freedom of Information Act, obtained 50-year-old FBI investigative reports on Fuller, now deceased, from the period. He was investigated and cleared in the July 13, 1960, shooting deaths of farm hands, but in 2007 the killings made it on to the Department of Justice’s Cold Case Initiative list of 112 homicide cases from that time period Congress ordered reopened.

Fuller shot and killed the three dismissed black employees who had confronted him on his property, critically wounding two others. Ostensibly, the FBI said, the men were there to collect pay, although accounts differed with other witnesses stating the men were there to hurt Fuller. (The Department of Justice reclosed the cases of the three dead men, Ernest McPharland, Albert Pitts and Marshall Johns, on April 22, 2012.)

While under investigation, Fuller was accused by FBI Special Agent William Dent of making threatening phone calls to his home. Described as a “hot head” by FBI sources, Fuller rarely used words to resolve issues, preferring a more physical means of problem solving.

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wrenchwench  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:26:17am

re: #193 HappyWarrior

My mother was not even a year old in 1960 when this happened. It’s NOT ancient history.

Thank you. I’m a year older than your mother.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:26:27am

re: #196 Sir John Barron

the killer wasn’t convicted or tried?

Nope, doesn’t look that way.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:26:47am

re: #204 wrenchwench

Thank you. I’m a year older than your mother.

I’m the same age as his mother.

(Corrected pronoun)

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:27:10am

re: #204 wrenchwench

Thank you. I’m a year older than your mother.

That’s the thing that my middle brother and I are trying to communicate to our youngest brother.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:27:25am

re: #206 Anymouse 🌹

I’m the same age as her mother.

I’m a dude.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:27:29am

re: #205 HappyWarrior

Nope, doesn’t look that way.

That era’s Stand Your Ground

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:28:15am

re: #208 HappyWarrior

I’m a dude.

Whoops. Sorry about that. I didn’t mean to give you an Internet sex change.

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wrenchwench  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:28:23am

re: #206 Anymouse 🌹

I’m the same age as her mother.

Get off my lawn, hatchling.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:28:49am

re: #200 Jay C

It was Louisiana in 1960: he probably wasn’t even investigated.

Meanwhile if black people saw much as didn’t say sir or ma’am to a white person, they had to worry for their lives. When we talk about white privilege, that’s what we mean. And it’s so frustrating that many including some in my own family don’t even see that.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:29:15am

re: #210 Anymouse 🌹

Whoops. Sorry about that. I didn’t mean to give you an Internet sex change.

All good.

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bratwurst  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:29:55am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:30:37am

I love our country but dare I say, I might have a much more nuanced vision if I were a POC. And it’s a shame that many other whites can’t understand that.

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Teukka  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:30:42am

re: #145 lawhawk

Want to reduce officer involved shootings; change the law:

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It wont stop all officer involved shootings, but it does give clearer guidance on when deadly force can and should be used. And it works. This goes hand in hand with training and tactics, as well as making sure that officers that are disciplined and fired for excessive force aren’t able to find jobs elsewhere despite their record.

And if not the law, at least the training of police officers. Police shootings, especially fatal ones, are rare here in Sweden. And they are trained to try their best to de-escalate a situation. More than once, police officers have been quoted as saying “If I have to pull out my service firearm, I have failed.”
Legally, police have the right to open fire without warning. However, it is customary here to fire a handful of warning rounds before firing for effect. Also, primary aiming points are extremities (i.e. non-lethal in majority of cases), but there are levels of threat when Swedish police will use directly lethal force to end it.
Also, swedish police is rolling out trials of tasers as we speak.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:30:53am

re: #214 bratwurst

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:31:29am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:31:53am

re: #216 Teukka

And if not the law, at least the training of police officers. Police shootings, especially fatal ones, are rare here in Sweden. And they are trained to try their best to de-escalate a situation. More than once, police officers have been quoted as saying “If I have to pull out my service firearm, I have failed.”
Legally, police have the right to open fire without warning. However, it is customary here to fire a handful of warning rounds before firing for effect. Also, primary aiming points are extremities (i.e. non-lethal in majority of cases), but there are levels of threat when Swedish police will use directly lethal force to end it.
Also, swedish police is rolling out trials of tasers as we speak.

Our problem as a society is we feel we can’t take lessons from your country because we’re ‘Merica, the best that ever will be and ever was. I love my country but we can and could take lessons from you guys.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:32:29am

re: #218 FormerDirtDart

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Somehow the people who bitched about that Han Solo douche will be quiet on this.

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Dr. Matt  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:32:51am

The rapid pace of their evolving bullsit story is maddening.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:34:58am

re: #221 Dr. Matt

Rapid pace of their evolving bullsit story is maddening.

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And here I was thinking a lot of folks in the GOP didn’t believe in evolution.

I learn something new every day. Heh.

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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:34:59am

re: #221 Dr. Matt

Rapid pace of their evolving bullsit story is maddening.

Totally transparent.

Also a set up.

But the meeting was OK anyway, a nothingburger.
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:35:22am

re: #216 Teukka

And if not the law, at least the training of police officers. Police shootings, especially fatal ones, are rare here in Sweden. And they are trained to try their best to de-escalate a situation. More than once, police officers have been quoted as saying “If I have to pull out my service firearm, I have failed.”
Legally, police have the right to open fire without warning. However, it is customary here to fire a handful of warning rounds before firing for effect. Also, primary aiming points are extremities (i.e. non-lethal in majority of cases), but there are levels of threat when Swedish police will use directly lethal force to end it.
Also, swedish police is rolling out trials of tasers as we speak.

I hear you have bar codes on your ships when they return to port you can scan-da-navy-in. hahahahaha….sorry.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:36:13am
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Sir John Barron  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:36:15am

re: #214 bratwurst

Reminder: Trump senior was in the building at the time. But I’m sure he didn’t attend this “adoption” meeting.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:36:15am

re: #218 FormerDirtDart

So is this to expose the “whingers” so they can be “dealt with?”

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:36:24am

re: #221 Dr. Matt

Rapid pace of their evolving bullsit story is maddening.

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Only an incompetent mastermind like Obama could have pulled this off!!!!!

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:37:56am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:39:00am

re: #229 FormerDirtDart

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BlackPearl  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:39:33am

re: #216 Teukka

And if not the law, at least the training of police officers. Police shootings, especially fatal ones, are rare here in Sweden. And they are trained to try their best to de-escalate a situation. More than once, police officers have been quoted as saying “If I have to pull out my service firearm, I have failed.”
Legally, police have the right to open fire without warning. However, it is customary here to fire a handful of warning rounds before firing for effect. Also, primary aiming points are extremities (i.e. non-lethal in majority of cases), but there are levels of threat when Swedish police will use directly lethal force to end it.
Also, swedish police is rolling out trials of tasers as we speak.

During the recent unpleasantness here in Hamburg* a cop shot a warning shot at a guy who was beating up another guy and refused to stop.

That warning shot is being investigated.** It’s just so sweet! And I don’t want to discourage that scrupulousness! I don’t want them slipping down a slope to anything like the US! It’s still adorable, though.

*I was not here, as I knew that at best it would be locked down by security, and at worst it would end in a nuclear fireball. And I didn’t want to be in the same city as That Asshole.

**Of course, the full police response is being investigated in much more detail, as it was… sub-optimal.

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wrenchwench  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:40:34am
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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:42:22am

Governor Ricketts declared my county a disaster area due to the tornadoes last month.
kneb.com

Haven’t seen much in the way of the state round these parts though.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:43:39am

re: #198 EPR-radar

Hell no to Bernie Sanders in 2020. He’s already done way too much damage, between screwing up his central message and not really trying to curb the excesses of the BernieBros.

It would be a huge mistake and it’s not just because of his age. He’s just not a good candidate or a leader.

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Teukka  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:44:16am

re: #231 BlackPearl

During the recent unpleasantness here in Hamburg* a cop shot a warning shot at a guy who was beating up another guy and refused to stop.

That warning shot is being investigated.** It’s just so sweet! And I don’t want to discourage that scrupulousness! I don’t want them slipping down a slope to anything like the US! It’s still adorable, though.

*I was not here, as I knew that at best it would be locked down by security, and at worst it would end in a nuclear fireball. And I didn’t want to be in the same city as That Asshole.

**Of course, the full police response is being investigated in much more detail, as it was… sub-optimal.

Every use of a firearm is investigated here (in Sweden and Finland) as well, even accidental discharges. A note to the side is that here, most criminals know to back the fuck down when an officers draws his or her firearm, or at least after warning shots have been fired.

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makeitstop  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:44:19am

re: #232 wrenchwench

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So cute! And the baby at the end was double-cute.

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:46:29am

re: #194 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember Rosemary Woods “accidentally” erasing 18 minutes of White House tapes?

So, maybe that excuse works once. Twice? Three Times?

Kick ‘em out for rank incompetence at the very least, but mostly for telling lies a two-year old knows is a lie.

If the idiots that voted for The Orange Mess had any sense at all they would know they are being mocked by Trump. They should feel used and abused, but then they must like it.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:47:14am

re: #232 wrenchwench

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Love little sis coming in at the end.

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:47:43am

re: #195 Anymouse 🌹

And that $182 billion claim is a fib too. Their supposed “savings” come from counting the same pot of money three times.

You get the money if you can find the pea under one of these three cups.

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wrenchwench  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:48:39am

re: #236 makeitstop

So cute! And the baby at the end was double-cute.

I love how the girl often starts out with an exasperated look on her face, but it turns into a real smile when she starts to dance.

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jaunte  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:49:27am

Bunker Up!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:51:02am

re: #241 jaunte

Kinda cool Members of Congress’ homes can have moats, drawbridges, turrets, portcullises, murder-holes & arrowslits. Just like olde times!

And they can be hoist by their own petards!!!

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Skip Intro  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:52:56am

re: #241 jaunte

I wasn’t aware that Scalise was shot at home.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:53:05am

re: #241 jaunte

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Bunker Up!

I’m sorry Scalise and the others were shot but can’t help but to say I’m a bit peeved that the time for drastic measures wasn’t thought after Giffords was shot nor did any of these Congressional Republicans offer anything other than empty thoughts and prayers after Sandy Hook.

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:54:02am

re: #215 HappyWarrior

I love our country but dare I say, I might have a much more nuanced vision if I were a POC. And it’s a shame that many other whites can’t understand that.

Sadly too many don’t want to understand. It is much easier to have someone you think is lesser then you. They do not understand that makes them lesser than those they look down on.

Again…they say we are a country founded on Christian Ideals. Pfffft.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:56:15am

re: #232 wrenchwench

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OMG beautiful!

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ObserverArt  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:56:31am

re: #222 Dr Lizardo

And here I was thinking a lot of folks in the GOP didn’t believe in evolution.

I learn something new every day. Heh.

It may be more like nuclear rapid expansion. This has got to blow.

Well, it already blows, but you know what I mean.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:57:11am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:57:45am

re: #222 Dr Lizardo

And here I was thinking a lot of folks in the GOP didn’t believe in evolution.

I learn something new every day. Heh.

They do not believe in Evolution, but they just love them some Social Darwinism…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:58:37am

re: #245 ObserverArt

Sadly too many don’t want to understand. It is much easier to have someone you think is lesser then you. They do not understand that makes them lesser than those they look down on.

Again…they say we are a country founded on Christian Ideals. Pfffft.

Yep. And you know what, it’s not just generational as we’ve said. But I think there’s another thing, I think people aren’t really aware that the past never really goes away, it just fades like the sun in the evening but it’s always present even in the darkest hours of the night.

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Belafon  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:59:12am

re: #248 Stanley Sea

He wasn’t doing anything anyway. He couldn’t even look at Tillerson.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:59:51am

re: #244 HappyWarrior

I’m sorry Scalise and the others were shot but can’t help but to say I’m a bit peeved that the time for drastic measures wasn’t thought after Giffords was shot nor did any of these Congressional Republicans offer anything other than empty thoughts and prayers after Sandy Hook.

Yup, and they’ll leave us to the mercy of all the wingnuts with guns they unleashed while protecting themselves with campaign funds. I suspect they will be working on using tax money for that next.

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makeitstop  Jul 14, 2017 • 9:59:59am

re: #248 Stanley Sea

The private email of the State Department’s top Russia intelligence official has reportedly been hacked.

Another nothingburger…
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lawhawk  Jul 14, 2017 • 10:03:05am

re: #218 FormerDirtDart

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The Vicious Babushka  Jul 14, 2017 • 10:11:31am

re: #204 wrenchwench

Thank you. I’m a year older than your mother.

I’m 10 years older than HW’s mother!

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wrenchwench  Jul 14, 2017 • 10:23:27am

re: #255 The Vicious Babushka

I’m 10 years older than HW’s mother!

You’re the same age as my favorite aunt.

And 9 years younger than Mr. w.

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darthstar  Jul 14, 2017 • 10:50:47am
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Eventual Carrion  Jul 14, 2017 • 10:55:16am

re: #221 Dr. Matt

The rapid pace of their evolving bullsit story is maddening.

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Better than a few months ago when it was “No meeting ever happened”.


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