I had the biggest shit-eating grin on my face when I saw Tom Petty play “Blue Suede Shoes” at Red Rocks all those years ago.
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) October 2, 2017
When I was in the 3rd grade I would come home from school and before my parents got home I’d blast “Runnin’ Down A Dream.” Did that a lot.
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) October 2, 2017
I would do the same a few years later with Nirvana’s “Smells Like Teen Spirit.”
Jeff Lynne and Bob Dylan, the only two Traveling Wilburys left. Damn. #RIPTomPetty
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) October 2, 2017
Tom Petty should have lived as long as Chuck Berry.
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) October 3, 2017
#NowPlaying Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers > Playback > I’m Tired Joey Boy (Live) https://t.co/FxLsKPvSw6
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) August 12, 2017
Pulled a CL:
Is it just me, or does the Republican Party simply exist to defend the indefensible, attack the truth, and deny the inalienable rights of Americans who are female and/or black and brown?
the shooter’s bio doesn’t match up w the crime
i just don’t buy it
This is harder on me than when David Bowie died. I’m broke up about it. Tom Petty has been a part of my music since I was very young. I can still remember when my parents took me to Gart Bros. in Vail to buy me skis when I was six or seven, and the shop guys were playing a vinyl version of The Heartbreakers debut album. I loved it! And the shop guys love it, too, this little kid (me) getting down to “Anything That’s Rock ‘N’ Roll.”
Facebook apparently blew it again:
Facebook Safety Check Pushed Funny Video Links and Bitcoin Donations after Las Vegas Massacre (goes to Daily Beast)
Top 3 news links in Facebook’s safety check are:
—mytvtoday(.)com, asking for Bitcoin donations
—theantimedia(.)org running a republished ZeroHedge article by “Tyler Durden”
—dennismichaellynch(.)com, selling bumper stickers pic.twitter.com/liF8wMQTdJ— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) October 2, 2017
re: #5 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
the shooter’s bio doesn’t match up w the crime
i just don’t buy it
We’re at Day One after. It’s going to take a long time - perhaps years - to figure out exactly what happened.
Johnny Depp, Faye Dunaway et al in this vid.
A classic.
Woke up this morning to see the terror in Las Vegas and going to bed right after seeing the CNN blurb that Tom Petty passed over the rainbow bridge.
But then seeing Jimmy Kimmel’s clip where he is standing up to the NRA gave me hope to keep on going…
for me no loss of a musician has ever hurt as much as john lennon getting shot in 1980
#NowPlaying Tom Petty > Wildflowers > A Higher Place https://t.co/Vpbhn7Rj5u
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) October 2, 2017
The Las Vegas massacre started just about 24 hours ago right now, 10:16 PM local time. Events move so fast anymore.
re: #13 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
for me no loss of a musician has ever hurt as much as john lennon getting shot in 1980
For me it was the death of Chris Squire of Yes.
Yes was my first introduction to popular music, when I was eleven. (At the time I was living with my grandparents, and they did everything they could to prevent me from hearing modern music.) My mother took me to a presentation at Abrams Planetarium at Michigan State where they were putting on a show based on an Issac Asimov short story, and Yes was the music backing the presentation.
re: #13 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
Chris Cornell for me. Still can’t believe he is gone.
re: #13 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
for me no loss of a musician has ever hurt as much as john lennon getting shot in 1980
Agreed that that was a short, sharp, shock.
But now we are getting to the sometimes natural and sometimes unnatural death of icons who touched us deeply. It hurts. And it should hurt.
They’re getting old, as are we.
Time wounds all heels.
re: #13 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
for me no loss of a musician has ever hurt as much as john lennon getting shot in 1980
The first one I really remember hurting was Kurt Cobain.
re: #17 Kragar
Chris Cornell for me. Still can’t believe he is gone.
Though I was young, Kurt Cobain tore me the fuck up.
Chris Cornell. I’m with you there. Most heartbreaking.
re: #21 Kragar
#NowPlaying Chris Cornell > Singles - Original Motion Picture Soundtrack > Seasons https://t.co/66WFKv6Qzy
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) May 22, 2017
Thanos linked over in the right-hand column to an article where Sen. Ben Sasse went after Richard Spencer.
The thread (well, Ben Sasse doesn’t do threads) of Sen. Sasse’s tweets is funny. They got into a name-calling contest.
Too bad my senator doesn’t abandon the guy at the top of his party that supports Spencer and retweets his crap.
So the “pro-life” House will pass an abortion ban tomorrow after failing to address gun violence & letting 9 million kids’ insurance expire.
— Laura Bassett (@LEBassett) October 2, 2017
Twitter Mourns Rock Legend: ‘Tom Petty Died Twice in One Day Because He’s F**king Tom Petty’ https://t.co/OKDEosWhfx pic.twitter.com/iiDtItvLCc
— Mediaite (@Mediaite) October 3, 2017
re: #27 The Spite House
Tom Petty died twice in one day because he’s fucking Tom Petty
— Matt Oswalt (@MattOswaltVA) October 3, 2017
Hobby Time! Getting ready for a tournament coming up in a few weeks. pic.twitter.com/zC7odcSeCb
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) October 3, 2017
Ran across a wingnut YouTube video putting partial blame on Prof. Richard Dawkins for last night’s shooting in Las Vegas, claiming he was making fun of it. The video didn’t actually show a clip of Prof. Dawkins doing this, or even a transcript of what he supposedly said.
He then leaps to the claim that this is problem with atheists, that we have no empathy or compassion.
I’ll skip the part where I put a link to this chowderhead’s video.
re: #30 austin_blue
“Close to the Edge” was the second album I ever bought (“Fragile” was the first), from saved paper route money. Had to hide them, my grandmother would have tossed them.
I played both very low at night on a cheap record player I had. (I have since replaced the LPs many times for wearing them out. Now we have things like mp3 and CDs and my wife really hates it when I play “Close to the Edge” in the car and sing along to all the verses… .)
#NowPlaying Yes > Close To The Edge > Siberian Khatru https://t.co/12udxjSaSs
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) March 16, 2017
That’s so sad and pathetic, Joe, that you actually think that’s a “great response,” instead of apologizing for your massive screwup.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 3, 2017
You know, I actually think you may be even slower-witted than your brother. I didn’t think it was possible! Dim Jim and Slow Joe.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 3, 2017
And remember, Joe - you may have trouble with simple logical thoughts, but the internet never forgets! pic.twitter.com/FJ14XpUzQh
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) October 3, 2017
@Green_Footballs dude you are scary your hate for good honest Americans is shocking. Come back to the light and save your soul. https://t.co/0Gp2tL5Ysc
— Joe Hoft (@joehoft) October 3, 2017
Get a load of this freaking moron. “Your hate for good honest Americans!”
re: #35 Charles Johnson
Who could have guessed the stupidest man on the internet was the smart one? pic.twitter.com/gO5HsFDaz0
— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) October 3, 2017
re: #35 Charles Johnson
Charles has been overtaken by the dark forces of Cthulhu for some time now. You are slow! Slow Joe! pic.twitter.com/WsozC0a3m0
— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) October 3, 2017
re: #36 Charles Johnson
“Good” and “honest”
Two words no one with half a brain uses to describe a Hoft— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) October 3, 2017
re: #36 Charles Johnson
Get a load of this freaking moron. “Your hate for good honest Americans!”
Have we ever seen this Joe with Jim in the same room at the same time?
re: #31 Anymouse 🌹
Ran across a wingnut YouTube video putting partial blame on Prof. Richard Dawkins for last night’s shooting in Las Vegas, claiming he was making fun of it. The video didn’t actually show a clip of Prof. Dawkins doing this, or even a transcript of what he supposedly said.
He then leaps to the claim that this is problem with atheists, that we have no empathy or compassion.
I’ll skip the part where I put a link to this chowderhead’s video.
Think this is the tweet that has conservative “media” all up in arms:
Durn tootin’, great shootin’. Cool dude sertin’ he’s 2nd Mendment rahts. Hell yeah!
Every country has its psychopaths. In US they have guns— Richard Dawkins (@RichardDawkins) October 2, 2017
re: #42 danarchy
Think this is the tweet that has conservative “media” all up in arms:
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Prof. Dawkins isn’t wrong.
NEW: A roaming gambler retired near the Vegas music scene he loved - then shattered it for everyone. w/@thewanreport https://t.co/jJc3FZsQGd
— Aaron C. Davis (@byaaroncdavis) October 2, 2017
They made a domestic terrorist into the protagonist from a Kenny Rogers song in less than 12 hours. Amazing. The media are complicit. https://t.co/LLH2NcErXJ
— April (@ReignOfApril) October 2, 2017
I always preferred the triple album Yessongs to the movie. I guess they must have overdubbed the bejeebers out of the recordings because I’ve never seen a performance of any of those songs that match those in Yessongs. I happen to think that Steve Howe sounds horrible in that Close to the Edge video. Not only did they screw up the beginning of the song, he sounds out of tune many times.
But everybody’s a critic
I remember my first taste of FM music, when I heard the full length version of Roundabout for the first time, and then I started finding out that lots of songs were longer than I thought.
re: #43 Anymouse 🌹
Prof. Dawkins isn’t wrong.
Although his attempt at “American” dialect is setting my teeth on edge.
Long day, just got back. At this rate, I”m going to need the entire vacation to recuperate from planning it.
re: #46 austin_blue
“Playback on other Websites has been disabled by the video owner.”
re: #47 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN
I remember my first taste of FM music, when I heard the full length version of Roundabout for the first time, and then I started finding out that lots of songs were longer than I thought.
I think I was 12 or 13 when one night I heard on the classic rock radio station in Vail the uncut version of “Starship Trooper.” I was totally like, “Whoa, dude!” I’ve enjoyed Yes’s music ever since.
re: #49 Anymouse 🌹
You can still watch it on YouTube.
After the Close to the Edge video ended, the choices were:
Sacrifice by Elton John
Rodney Dangerfield on Johnny Carson
It’s Raining Again by Roger Hodgson
and the Red Rain Video from the other night.
re: #50 teleskiguy
The ones that really hooked me were My Generation from Live at Leeds, Us and Them by Pink Floyd, Green Grass and High Tides (the Outlaws) , Oh Well (Fleetwood Mac)
The first five CDs I bought were Yessongs, Then Play On (Fleetwood Mac), Waiting for Columbus (Little Feat), Burgers (Hot Tuna), and Bursting Out by Jethro Tull
re: #50 teleskiguy
I think I was 12 or 13 when one night I heard on the classic rock radio station in Vail the uncut version of “Starship Trooper.” I was totally like, “Whoa, dude!” I’ve enjoyed Yes’s music ever since.
Once when I was on desk watch in the middle of the night at NAS Oceana, I called into rock station WNOR, the DJ of which at the time asked for requests.
I asked him to play “Close to the Edge,” and he said “why not?” He put the song on a few minutes after I called in.
And I am off for the rack.
Oh, by the way, Yes got me into listening to classical music, which became a touchstone to my life. My Da was a blues and jazz nerd, and I was in the upper single digits when the Beatles were on Ed Sullivan.
I read an article around ‘71 where the band was interviewed about their influences and they talked about old composers. I went to the library and borrowed records. My parents thought I was nuts, but dad had come back with this monstrous Sony stereo system after his 1st deployment to the Nam and I was blasting Mahler and Beethoven and rolling on the living room floor in ecstasy.
You never know what floats your boat until you find your kink.
re: #56 austin_blue
My father would have been a Youtube addict.
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Americans frustrated over #LasVegas shooting call for tighter gun laws. 59 people die in the incident, the worst mass shooting in US history pic.twitter.com/sf7T1erOJN
— China Xinhua News (@XHNews) October 3, 2017
re: #60 Cheechako
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They are not the same person.
re: #62 Anymouse 🌹
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re: #62 Anymouse 🌹
Thanks. I really didn’t know and didn’t want to make it a big deal if it was untrue.
Could America’s Socialists become the Tea Party of the left? https://t.co/rWPCZoV4tL pic.twitter.com/P5onXZLsQU
— POLITICO (@politico) October 3, 2017
A bunch of assholes who turn a major political party into a feeble joke?
God knows they’re trying https://t.co/Es6f2dovaW— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) October 3, 2017
re: #64 Cheechako
Thanks. I really didn’t know and didn’t want to make it a big deal if it was untrue.
That’s what I’m here for (:: Well, that and the good conversation, interesting people, informative takes on the news of the day, Mr. Johnson’s finds of amazing musical performances, &c.
re: #65 Kragar
I don’t know about the rest of the country, but here we certainly aren’t the “Tea Party of the Left,” never mind that the Tea Party was a Koch financed astroturf organisation on the right.
A bunch of assholes who turn hijack a major political party and turn our country into a feeble joke?
God knows they’re trying
Concerning the differing first and middle names on the marriage certificate, it would seem that even in easy-to-marry Nevada that would get caught. Nevada law requires the following to get a marriage certificate:
Identification to prove your name and age is required. Please be prepared. Per Nevada law, we may issue a marriage license to couples with acceptable identification. Go to acceptable identification for specific information on forms of identification.
Presumably acceptable identification would require the same first and middle names. I suppose you could use a fake ID, but that risks a lot if you’re caught doing it.
Holy crap, the commentary to this tweet. Twitter still doing its absolute best (nothing) about conversations on Twitter.
The shooter had 19 guns. In the U.S., 3% of the population own 50% of the guns, roughly 130 million guns.
— Jennifer Hayden (@Scout_Finch) October 2, 2017
re: #70 Anymouse 🌹
The shooter had 19 guns. In the U.S., 3% of the population own 50% of the guns, roughly 130 million guns.
And those 130 million guns are all that stand between us and Government Tyranny.
/
If you’re hoarding cats, they call you crazy (even if you are taking proper care of them).
If you’re hoarding guns, you’re somehow a patriot (right up until you aren’t, then the wingnuts never heard of you, claim you’re a liberal Muslim commie atheist America hater).
I was a junior in high school when the Columbine massacre took place, which was just 100 miles to the east, more or less. Columbine was everywhere where I was, for years. I’m acutely aware of gun massacres.
Then the Aurora theater shooting.
On and on.
I don’t want to list them.
I’m fucking numb. I am fucking numb to this shit.
It breaks my heart every time. I’m running out of tears.
When a single psycho with modified assault rifles can kill 60 and send another 500 to the hospital, the society in which that happened has crossed some kind of evil line. I fear a snowball effect.
re: #74 teleskiguy
When a single psycho with modified assault rifles can kill 60 and send another 500 to the hospital, the society in which that happened has crossed some kind of evil line. I fear a snowball effect.
Not doing anything to try to reduce such tragedies going forward is absolute evil, and the NRA and Republican party both partake deeply of this evil.
re: #75 EPR-radar
Not doing anything to try to reduce such tragedies going forward is absolute evil, and the NRA and Republican party both partake deeply of this evil.
I hear people supporting Trump’s Muslim ban saying that there are 50,000,000 Muslims worldwide ready to kill for Jihad.
How many angry white loser guys do we have out there in America alone?
Um, does anyone know about this? Sounds…enticing.
Steven Seagal, I challenge you One on one, I use boxing you can use whatever. 10 rounds in Vegas pic.twitter.com/tTy7Qo4zHF
— George Foreman (@GeorgeForeman) October 2, 2017
This is what politicising violence looks like:
Miami police union head exploits Las Vegas massacre to bash NFL anthem protesters https://t.co/z92EBfu9wM
— Raw Story (@RawStory) October 2, 2017
because kneeling during the SSB and shooting people randomly from a balcony are all but one and the same thing…
Now I’m going to be sad all day, again.
Rest in peace.
Read a comment elsewhere that perhaps a grassroot movement should be started, similar to those started for war memorials, for a monument to the victims of gun violence. Something similar to the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, where people’s names are added.
It wouldn’t have to be in Washington (not likely to be approved by the GOP anyway). Any state that would be willing to host it would be fine.
Perhaps hire the guy who designed the wall to do that. Put a physical reminder in place that allows people who are related to grieve, others to learn, and wingnuts cannot escape its existence.
(The only problem I see with it is wingnuts vandalising it or trying to destroy it.)
Politico is reporting the silencer/armour-piercing bullet/take CCW guns across state lines bill is stalled in the House now, with many Republicans saying that the tragedy in Las Vegas is too political a climate in which to bring up the bill.
“The SHARE Act was supposed to be about making it easier to hunt wildlife. The gun provisions inserted in the bill at the direction of the NRA to deregulate silencers and armor-piercing ammunition make it easier to hunt people,” said Arizona Rep. Raúl Grijalva, top Democrat on the Natural Resources Committee, in a statement. “There’s a lot we need to do in the wake of this mass shooting. We don’t need to make it easier to get hold of items that could make mass casualty events even more deadly.”
Grijalva and Michigan Rep. John Conyers, ranking Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, sent a letter to Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) Monday asking him to pull the gun silencer bill from the House calendar indefinitely.
You know what to do.
My twitter account was suspended recently because I said ‘Islam was a death cult’. Well I am back now, and Islam is still a death cult.
— Gerard Batten MEP (@GerardBattenMEP) October 3, 2017
Also please report this one. You can choose whether for hate or for targeted harassment.
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re: #84 Nyet
Also please report this one. You can choose whether for hate or for targeted harassment.
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re: #78 Anymouse 🌹
This is what politicising violence looks like:
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Just an idiot. I guess it will take some time for these idiots to figure out that Black people can peacefully protest whenever and however they want. No amount of yacking will stop that.
re: #84 Nyet
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re: #85 The Vicious Babushka
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Well, I put out my monthly flag observance note to the county as Flag Committee Chair in my village.
Despite conservative claims, they don’t own the flag. My monthly notations are apolitical though (as they should be for this), and somewhat bland (noting the laws in question that set forth the various flag observances every month). This month there are three (somewhat long):
The following days are outlined as flag observances in the US Flag Code or Public Law.
4 U.S. Code § 6 - Time and occasions for display (link goes to the text at Cornell Law School) sets forth the days the US Flag should especially be displayed. In October, those days are Columbus Day (Federal Holiday, the second Monday of October or October 9 this year) and Navy Day, October 27.
Additionally, Public Law 107-51, 107th Congress, Joint Resolution, sets forth the National Fallen Firefighters Service, traditionally the first Sunday in October, as a half-staff day for the US Flag. This year however, the National Fallen Firefighters Foundation is holding that service on October 8. The Joint Resolution of Congress was signed into law by President George W. Bush October 16, 2001.
firehero.org (Goes to the National Fallen Firefighters Foundation, listing its events for the weekend)
The US Flag is currently at half-staff through sunset October 6 by Presidential Proclamation:
whitehouse.gov
and the Governor of Nebraska’s proclamation:
governor.nebraska.gov
Sun Oct 8: National Fallen Firefighters Memorial Service (half-staff all day)
Mon Oct 9: Columbus Day (Federal Holiday)
Fri Oct 27: Navy Day (founding of the US Navy, though research in the Seventies shows that date is incorrect)
These days will normally be preceded the day before by a Presidential Proclamation.
The American Legion recommends for flags which cannot be lowered to half-staff, such as those on a gaff from a porch or boat, or on a staff in an office or church, that a black ribbon the width of one stripe and the length of the flag be affixed to the top of the gaff or staff.
For flags displayed flat, such as on a wall, they recommend a black bow affixed to the centre of the flag, or three black bows across the top.
re: #39 Kragar
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Does anyone think for an instant that SMOTI would have posted the mistaken identity if the guy’s bio was all about MAGA and Hannity? Honest my ass.
re: #90 Mike Lamb
Does anyone think for an instant that SMOTI would have posted the mistaken identity if the guy’s bio was all about MAGA and Hannity? Honest my ass.
I wonder if the guy is for real. Jim Hoft has never mentioned a twin brother, and suddenly this guy pops out of nowhere to attack Mr. Johnson here.
It seems like a similar ploy to the Malik Obama account he apparently controls (though Malik Obama is a real person).
re: #78 Anymouse 🌹
Are all heads of police unions douche bags?
re: #92 Mike Lamb
Are all heads of police unions douche bags?
Well, I wouldn’t say all, but the vile ones get all the press. I imagine there are plenty of police union leaders who are only concerned with ensuring their union members’ rights and such. The loudmouths seem to bask in attention, even negative attention (a city can’t fire a police union head for example, although the union members can).
When Trump Visits PR today, please sing a long with Trump! #PrayForPuertoRico #TheResistance pic.twitter.com/Achh0TwlDq
— Jasper #Ω (@JSavoly) October 3, 2017
Holy crap.
…Save your energy Rex, we’ll do what has to be done!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 1, 2017
When @realDonaldTrump publicly undercuts his Sec of State, it not only embarrasses Rex Tillerson, it confuses Americans & world leaders. https://t.co/R6noJvfoks
— Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) October 1, 2017
Song dynasty bowl shatters world record for Chinese ceramics, fetches $37.7 million in sale https://t.co/tr3BX8TzYv
— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) October 3, 2017
re: #97 HappyWarrior
Yeah. It’s almost like he wants a war.
What’s the point of being President if you can’t play with the most powerful military in the history of the world?
Democrat Harry Truman got to drop atomic weapons, why shouldn’t he be able to? /s
re: #36 Charles Johnson
Get a load of this freaking moron. “Your hate for good honest Americans!”
“Let me know when you see one, Joe.”
Does he think he is in grade school?
President Trump as he leaves for Puerto Rico: “In Texas and in Florida we get an A+, and I think we’ve done just as good in Puerto Rico” pic.twitter.com/6xY0BdnmYp
— NBC News (@NBCNews) October 3, 2017
Yeah, my brother-in-law in Texas (a teacher) would not give Trump an A+ over the FEMA response. (His wife only got back to Houston from Russia a couple days ago.)
#FBI is Awesome. Figured out the shooter in Vegas was not linked to ISIS in 11 hours. Can’t say Trump was not linked to Russia in 11 months
— Chuck Woolery (@chuckwoolery) October 2, 2017
Now we see why you’re a game show host and not a defense attorney. @chuckwoolery https://t.co/mOyrqiMkKQ
— Tea Pain (@TeaPainUSA) October 3, 2017
re: #100 The Vicious Babushka
Does he think he is in grade school?
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It’s all about ratings with him.
re: #84 Nyet
Also please report this one. You can choose whether for hate or for targeted harassment.
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re: #81 Anymouse 🌹
Read a comment elsewhere that perhaps a grassroot movement should be started, similar to those started for war memorials, for a monument to the victims of gun violence. Something similar to the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, where people’s names are added.
It wouldn’t have to be in Washington (not likely to be approved by the GOP anyway). Any state that would be willing to host it would be fine.
Perhaps hire the guy who designed the wall to do that. Put a physical reminder in place that allows people who are related to grieve, others to learn, and wingnuts cannot escape its existence.
(The only problem I see with it is wingnuts vandalising it or trying to destroy it.)
Same guy did the Civil Rights memorial at the SPLC headquarters.
Trump budget director on tax plan: “We need new deficits. If deficit-neutral, you’re never going to get 3% growth.” https://t.co/vrn32dqxt4
— John Harwood (@JohnJHarwood) October 3, 2017
Deficits. It’s what plants crave. https://t.co/5RIh040hqn
— Parker Molloy (@ParkerMolloy) October 3, 2017
Possible answer to the automatic fire in Las Vegas—2 rifles are reported to have been modified with bump stocks. These devices slip through a loophole. They’re legal, but reduce accuracy.
re: #107 Decatur Deb
Possible answer to the automatic fire in Las Vegas—2 rifles are reported to have been modified with bump stocks. These devices slip through a loophole. They’re legal, but reduce accuracy.
Accuracy isn’t much of a problem for those who aren’t aiming for specific targets and just want indiscriminate damage. Not just even in the context of mass shootings, some of those that would own something like this would use it to mask their lack of training so they can spray and pray.
re: #107 Decatur Deb
Of course, if trying for mass slaughter, accuracy isn’t needed…
re: #107 Decatur Deb
Possible answer to the automatic fire in Las Vegas—2 rifles are reported to have been modified with bump stocks. These devices slip through a loophole. They’re legal, but reduce accuracy.
I was just reading about those. In the case of the Las Vegas shooting, I’d think accuracy didn’t matter too much; he was just raining bullets on the crowd. Sort of like what you see in those movies where hundreds of archers fire on a phalanx.
Funniest thing I’ve seen in a long time#trumpuniversity #funny #Humor #Humour #resist #resistance #theresistance #Resisttrump #Lol pic.twitter.com/M34FrXUuso
— Don’t Leave Blank (@WTFisGoingOnDon) October 3, 2017
Don’t love cats, but like most of you having a tough day, plus who doesn’t love a cat burglar who makes deliveries.
Cat That Loves to Steal Brings Home a Bag of Weed for His Owner
See more at: https://t.co/bTHoNQGIb3 pic.twitter.com/Hq7bAPQSUm— Women Daily Magazine (@womendailym) October 2, 2017
Shameless page promotion:
Gun Control and Religious Freedom (goes to the right-hand column of Little Green Footballs)
re: #105 Decatur Deb
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Same guy did the Civil Rights memorial at the SPLC headquarters.
I was going to make a comment about that ‘guy’ too.
Bad ‘mouse.
Anyone suffering emotional emptiness with a big helping of WTF are we doing?
I can’t watch TV. To me they seem to be using Las Vegas as a ratings plus story or something.
To me they should be outraged, but it is just thoughts and prayers. Empty prayers followed by empty thoughts for an empty country.
And then there is Petty passing away. In a way he is going quietly due to his story coming within “The Worst Mass Shooting in History.” Maybe that is how he would want it, but damn, he was a great.
Yeah, empty. Hollowed out.
re: #83 Nyet
You know what to do.
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— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) October 3, 2017
re: #107 Decatur Deb
Possible answer to the automatic fire in Las Vegas—2 rifles are reported to have been modified with bump stocks. These devices slip through a loophole. They’re legal, but reduce accuracy.
He didn’t need accuracy for what he was doing. They worked just fine to spray a crowd 400+ yards away.
re: #102 Anymouse 🌹
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A moderately rational person might be able to deduce something from those 2 statements…
Something else to be happy about, Mueller is on it.
Pre-emptive pardons? Mueller has a guy for that https://t.co/iWBjQV6egV @gregfarrel pic.twitter.com/phY9pLb6RS
— David S. Joachim (@davidjoachim) October 3, 2017
re: #119 I Would Prefer Not To
Something else to be happy about, Mueller is on it.
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If you need a #bumpstock or a 30rnd clip to go hunting, it sez volumes about your hunting skills. #LasVegasShooting #NRA
— D. E. Todd (@DaveoutofAustin) October 3, 2017
Trump reversed an Obama regulation that made it more difficult for mentally ill people to obtain firearms. #TheResistance #gunsense
— 🌍Vicious Babushka🌎 (@viciousbabushka) October 3, 2017
re: #122 The Vicious Babushka
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Yep. And honestly I’m tired of blaming mental illness while at the same time not doing anything about mental illness.
re: #77 teleskiguy
In round 10, Foreman is allowed to use his eponymous grill.
re: #126 Sir John Barron
So glad we’re back to “deficits are good”.
/
Deficits are good.*
Until the Dems control the WH then we suddenly care.
re: #100 The Vicious Babushka
Does he think he is in grade school?
Disasters. They’re all about Trump’s grades.
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re: #100 The Vicious Babushka
Does he think he is in grade school?
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He’s a delusional sociopath.
He’s a delusional sociopath who thinks everything has to have a superlative associated with it whether it’s appropriate or not
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) October 3, 2017
re: #119 I Would Prefer Not To
What if the people who received the pardons didn’t accept them?
As a gun owner, I ask why don’t the authorities follow up on straw man prosecutions, follow up when a gun owner falls out of law abiding and must give them up, or let state laws (see Arizona) reduce ATF efforts?
The bump stock might be legal, but a plain language reading says really not.
I say this is a lack of prosecution by ATF. A fast track to jail is full auto conversion kits in the same room with a compatible gun. Anyone with experience in this area of the law, please chime in. I’m email Chuck Michel, an attorney famous or infamous if you like for this area of expertise.
Federal Definition of a Machine Gun
For purposes of federal law, a machine gun is defined as:[A]ny weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manually reloading, by a single function of the trigger. The term shall also include the frame or receiver of any such weapon, any part designed and intended solely and exclusively, or combination of parts designed and intended, for use in converting a weapon into a machinegun, and any combination of parts from which a machinegun can be assembled if such parts are in the possession or under the control of a person.16
I’m about a half millimeter from calling bullshit on the legality, and shaming the authorities accordingly.
re: #37 Kragar
The one thing in life that gave me peace was believing there was only one Hoft. This has been a stunning development.
Greets and saluts from the resistance in the NYC metro area. It’s not a good day to be optimistic when there are right wing nutters, the Alex Jones audience, who think Las Vegas was carried out so as to “taint” the Bundy trials.
‘Patriots’ I follow on facebook have taken to questioning the Las Vegas Shooting. Truthers. Some believe false flag to ‘taint’ Bundy jury.
— HGTomato 🍅 (@HGTomato) October 3, 2017
There’s so much derp and insanity out there, and it starts at the top. Trump. His buddies in the fever swamps, whether it’s Alex Jones or agitprop producers SMOTI, Rage Furby, and their sycophants, are spreading this toxic stew far and wide.
They have excelled at DARVO, and they’re not going to be done until the entire nation is upended and in turmoil, all while the 1% accumulate more wealth and everyone else sees their burdens increase exponentially.
More than that, we’re exporting the insanity elsewhere such as with actions like this:
UN Human Rights Council voted to condemn death penalty for homosexuality. Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Egypt, China and yes, the US voted against
— Raphael Ahren (@RaphaelAhren) October 3, 2017
Once again, the GOP isn’t about being pro life. Or about life at all. They’re more than willing to desecrate lives and destroy them so that a select few can profit. They exploit the religious beliefs of a handful to impose their views on everyone else. They don’t care about life, and their actions on health care, LGBT, birth control, women’s rights, CHIP (the latest insanity being that the GOP allowed the program to expire 10/1), etc. show that they’re more interested in forcing women to carry to term than they are in caring for the woman’s health or the health of their child.
The fetus is a prop in their debased worldview. They are all about government so small it fits up in the lady bits and in bathroom stalls and the bedroom. They aren’t small government. They’re for a police state that is very much up into what everyone is doing. Their notion of privacy is a fuzzy one, all in furtherance of “security.”
But in doing so, no one is secure, violence is a huge issue, and civil and voting rights are under assault, and the rich just keep getting richer.
A thread from Cheryl Rofer (a nuclear weapons expert):
Guys, it’s time we have a talk about this administration’s realities. 1/
— Cheryl Rofer (@CherylRofer) October 3, 2017
re: #135 lawhawk
Greets and saluts from the resistance in the NYC metro area. It’s not a good day to be optimistic when there are right wing nutters, the Alex Jones audience, who think Las Vegas was carried out so as to “taint” the Bundy trials.
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Once again, the GOP isn’t about being pro life. Or about life at all. They’re more than willing to desecrate lives and destroy them so that a select few can profit. They exploit the religious beliefs of a handful to impose their views on everyone else. They don’t care about life, and their actions on health care, LGBT, birth control, women’s rights, CHIP (the latest insanity being that the GOP allowed the program to expire 10/1), etc. show that they’re more interested in forcing women to carry to term than they are in caring for the woman’s health or the health of their child.
The fetus is a prop in their debased worldview. They are all about government so small it fits up in the lady bits and in bathroom stalls and the bedroom. They aren’t small government. They’re for a police state that is very much up into what everyone is doing. Their notion of privacy is a fuzzy one, all in furtherance of “security.”
But in doing so, no one is secure, violence is a huge issue, and civil and voting rights are under assault, and the rich just keep getting richer.
I hate fucking CT loons.
re: #135 lawhawk
So the Trump admin is okay with gays being subjected to the death penalty just because of their sexuality? WTH??!!
re: #132 Unshaken Defiance
As a gun owner, I ask why don’t the authorities follow up on straw man prosecutions, follow up when a gun owner falls out of law abiding and must give them up, or let state laws (see Arizona) reduce ATF efforts?
The bump stock might be legal, but a plain language reading says really not.
I say this is a lack of prosecution by ATF. A fast track to jail is full auto conversion kits in the same room with a compatible gun. Anyone with experience in this area of the law, please chime in. I’m email Chuck Michel, an attorney famous or infamous if you like for this area of expertise.
I think in a legal sense the key phrase in that definition is by a single function of the trigger.
What the bump stock does is facilitates pulling the trigger faster, but there is still a trigger pull for each shot.
re: #135 lawhawk
UN Human Rights Council voted to condemn death penalty for homosexuality. Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Egypt, China and yes, the US voted against
— Raphael Ahren
Hmmm, link for this?
I don’t doubt our current leadership would do this, all the while criticizing Cuba, China and other countries on human rights. The U.S. has also staunchly defended its use of the death penalty and resisted measures seen as infringing on its sovereignty.
Did a few days search at NYT and didn’t see anything for this, though.
I completely agree with this:
My whole news feed is full of decent, well-intentioned folks, from the highest halls of power on down to just regular people trying to do the right thing, navigating their way through this dumbass right-wing talking point as though it’s a good-faith argument worthy of addressing.
“No, this IS the time to politicize the issue, because XYZ.”
And so we get bogged down, bickering on their terms, which is, of course, the entire fucking purpose of the bullshit “argument” in the first place.
Why play along? It’s obviously nothing but an empty talking point. Just raw, unfiltered, horseshit.
So TREAT IT like horseshit. Blow straight past it without bothering to notice the idiot spouting it.
“You shouldn’t politicize the tragedy!”
“Lord, that’s a stupid fucking thing to say. ANYHOW…”
What I wanna know is why we shouldn’t politicize this. 59 people are dead. Over 500 wounded. Paddock had ten guns that he bought in one setting. It’s true. People kill people but guns and easy access to them make it so much easier.
re: #74 teleskiguy
When a single psycho with modified assault rifles can kill 60 and send another 500 to the hospital, the society in which that happened has crossed some kind of evil line. I fear a snowball effect.
As evil and horrendous as that is, the fact that 20 children and 6 adults died in a mass shooting in Sandy Hook just 5 years ago and we let the gun lobby and their congressional whores get away with doing nothing, nothing!, about it is where that evil line was crossed. When a people can witness the slaughter of 26 people in a place of learning and make absolutely no changes to gun laws is, in my mind, the beginning of the end.
We must not let that happen here. Where do good people stand up and say “Enough!”.
re: #143 HappyWarrior
What I wanna know is why we shouldn’t politicize this. 59 people are dead. Over 500 wounded. Paddock had ten guns that he bought in one setting. It’s true. People kill people but guns and easy access to them make it so much easier.
I remember waking up yesterday and seeing the count at 20 likely dead, which was bad enough.
By the time I got to work the count was up to 50+, which was almost enough to turn my stomach. That’s just a staggering number even given the circumstances (large, penned in crowd, well-armed shooter from far above).
re: #144 sizzzzlerz
As evil and horrendous as that is, the fact that 20 children and 6 adults died in a mass shooting in Sandy Hook just 5 years ago and we let the gun lobby and their congressional whores get away with doing nothing, nothing!, about it is where that evil line was crossed. When a people can witness the slaughter of 26 people in a place of learning and make absolutely no changes to gun laws is, in my mind, the beginning of the end.
We must not let that happen here. Where do good people stand up and say “Enough!”.
When our last President showed emotion after Sandy Hook, the right wing bastards mocked him and others including people who have the current president’s ear suggested it was staged.
re: #141 Sir John Barron
Hmmm, link for this?
I don’t doubt our current leadership would do this, all the while criticizing Cuba, China and other countries on human rights. The U.S. has also staunchly defended its use of the death penalty and resisted measures seen as infringing on its sovereignty.
Did a few days search at NYT and didn’t see anything for this, though.
This appears to be the item in question from the UN HRC website.
36/17
The question of the death penalty
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A/HRC/36/L.6
Adopted as orally revised by a recorded vote (27 to 13, with 7 abstentions), 40th meeting, 29 September 2017
From the resolution:
Condemning the imposition of the death penalty as a sanction for specific forms of conduct,such as apostasy, blasphemy, adultery and consensual same-sex relations, and expressing serious concern that the application of the death penalty for adultery is disproportionately imposed on women,
re: #140 danarchy
I think in a legal sense the key phrase in that definition is by a single function of the trigger.
What the bump stock does is facilitates pulling the trigger faster, but there is still a trigger pull for each shot.
Back when I was a kid, someone created an arcade game to go along with the 1984 Olympics. One of the events was the 100 yard dash. There were two buttons you were supposed to hit, back and forth to make the guy run, and the faster you could alternate, the faster the guy would go. Well, someone figured out a way to hold a pencil so that you would hit one side and your hand would spring back to the other side. The character on the screen would move really fast.
Eventually, an update came out that replaced the two buttons with a track ball.
re: #146 HappyWarrior
When our last President showed emotion after Sandy Hook, the right wing bastards mocked him and others including people who have the current president’s ear suggested it was staged.
All the more reason to believe that, as a nation, we’re doomed.
re: #145 Sir John Barron
I remember waking up yesterday and seeing the count at 20 likely dead, which was bad enough.
By the time I got to work the count was up to 50+, which was almost enough to turn my stomach. That’s just a staggering number even given the circumstances (large, penned in crowd, well-armed shooter from far above).
Those are video game numbers honestly. Just unreal. And then there are those who were fortunate not to be physically wounded but no doubt have psychological wounds.
re: #144 sizzzzlerz
As evil and horrendous as that is, the fact that 20 children and 6 adults died in a mass shooting in Sandy Hook just 5 years ago and we let the gun lobby and their congressional whores get away with doing nothing, nothing!, about it is where that evil line was crossed. When a people can witness the slaughter of 26 people in a place of learning and make absolutely no changes to gun laws is, in my mind, the beginning of the end.
We must not let that happen here. Where do good people stand up and say “Enough!”.
And that’s the thing: we made changes to the gun laws…in the complete opposite direction. We didn’t just fail to make stricter regulations, but we actively loosened them up nationwide, while still talking about how the entire thing was somehow a hoax to hurt the 2nd Amendment and NRA or some shit.
This is never getting changed. No matter how much will we have, the NRA outright owns this fucking country for-fucking-ever.
re: #148 Belafon
The game was Track & Field. I used a comb rather than a pencil. I never saw the track ball edition of the game.
re: #147 lawhawk
Thanks
The full document indicates there was a lot of additional statements about the DP that undoubtedly caused the US to oppose.
Welcoming the fact that many States are applying a moratorium on the use of the death penalty,
Noting that States with different legal systems, traditions, cultures and religious backgrounds have abolished the death penalty or are applying a moratorium on its use,
Strongly deploring the fact that the use of the death penalty leads to violations of the human rights of the persons facing the death penalty and of other affected persons,
Recognizing the report of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights on the high-level panel discussion on the question of the death penalty, during which it was concluded that a significant number of States hold that the death penalty is a form of torture or other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment,
Deploring the fact that, frequently, poor and economically vulnerable persons and foreign nationals are disproportionately subjected to the death penalty, that laws carrying the death penalty are used against persons exercising their rights to freedom of expression, thought, conscience, religion, and peaceful assembly and association, and that persons belonging to religious or ethnic minorities are disproportionately represented among those sentenced to the death penalty,
Not to excuse the U.S. vote, but along with our love of gunz, we do sure loves us some death penalty here in the U.S.
re: #153 Sir John Barron
We think a lot of problems can be solved by killing someone, yet don’t think new problems will come from it.
re: #4 austin_blue
Pulled a CL:
Is it just me, or does the Republican Party simply exist to defend the indefensible, attack the truth, and deny the inalienable rights of Americans who are female and/or black and brown?
No. It primarily exists to redistribute income to the wealthiest 1% of Americans.
re: #154 Citizen K
The trackball versions were conditional retrofits, I believe, due to many machines getting the buttons worn out from repeated mashing.
I still, to this day, remember where I played it. The first Taco Bueno opened on South First in Abilene. You walked in to the order counter, which was a small area. Most of the restaurant was behind it. To the left, a hall led you to the tables. To the right was the arcade area.
re: #155 Belafon
We think a lot of problems can be solved by killing someone, yet don’t think new problems will come from it.
We have a lot of bloodlust. I read the comments on crime stories and people talk about wanting public and or very brutal executions. I understand crime is emotional and man I’d be torn apart if a loved one of mine was murdered like I’ve read some people murdered but you can’t become the monster you hate.
Happy 25th anniversary @barackobama. A quarter of a century later, you’re still my best friend & the most extraordinary man I know. I 💕 you. pic.twitter.com/y0nevQmatB
— Michelle Obama (@MichelleObama) October 3, 2017
oh…ok…
*blink*
Fox News “forensic psychiatrist” blames mass shootings on CNN https://t.co/3KVul7QegS pic.twitter.com/suE0nr6CXw
— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) October 3, 2017
re: #105 Decatur Deb
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Same guy did the Civil Rights memorial at the SPLC headquarters.
Well, I’m stupid. Maya Lin doesn’t really qualify as “guy,” eh?
Change that sentence above to “get the woman who designed the Vietnam Veterans Memorial.”
re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth
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But don’t politicize the shootings. // Fuck you Fox. Fuck you for poisoning people’s minds with your shitty propaganda masquerading as news.
Remember Jesse Camp? I don’t think Jesse Camp remembers Jesse Camp.
re: #78 Anymouse 🌹
This is what politicising violence looks like:
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Karma is coming for them. The GOP they support is getting ready to break their union, along with all other public sector unions, followed by the private sector unions as well.
re: #162 Backwoods_Sleuth
Its OK - the CNN “forensic psychiatrist” will blame Faux News. Then we can have a battle royal with all the talking heads. Whomever walks out alive wins (I’m tired of the news thus we turn it into Celebrity Death Match clay-mation).
re: #167 CongoJack
Its OK - the CNN “forensic psychiatrist” will blame Faux News. Then we can have a battle royal with all the talking heads. Whomever walks out alive wins (I’m tired of the news thus we turn it into Celebrity Death Match clay-mation).
Heh I really liked that show back in the day. It was silly and absurd but that was the late 90’s.
BTW, the next argument in the “we can’t control guns” from the right is “3D printers.”
re: #170 Dr Lizardo
FTFY.
Hopefully, this person has never been allowed to actually practice if that’s the case.
re: #124 HappyWarrior
Yep. And honestly I’m tired of blaming mental illness while at the same time not doing anything about mental illness.
Plus, mentally-ill people are overwhelmingly victims of violent crimes, not perpetrators.
One problem though with mental illness is in the rule set aside by the Trump Administration on guns and the mentally ill, the ACLU and twenty-three disability rights organisations argued to set it aside.
The argument used was primarily a slippery-slope argument: If you can take a II Amendment right from a mentally-ill person, then you could take any right (or expand that to other disabilities).
re: #171 Belafon
BTW, the next argument in the “we can’t control guns” from the right is “3D printers.”
Yeah I saw Rick Wilson make that argument. Sick of these excuses.
I would like to see Dana explain how a guy in a hotel room can kill 59 people 32 floors & a block away, with hands, feet and fists, a bottle of vodka and a carton of Camels.
INBOX: The American College of Physicians says gun violence is a public health issue, calls for ban on automatic + semiautomatic weapons. pic.twitter.com/q3Pvoi9dJw
— Dan Diamond (@ddiamond) October 2, 2017
Right after we ban pools, cars, cigarettes, alcohol, hands feet & fists. Lives lost due to these constitute an epidemic. https://t.co/vVPgfOdY3Z
— Dana Loesch (@DLoesch) October 3, 2017
re: #173 Anymouse 🌹
Plus, mentally-ill people are overwhelmingly victims of violent crimes, not perpetrators.
One problem though with mental illness is in the rule set aside by the Trump Administration on guns and the mentally ill, the ACLU and twenty-three disability rights organisations argued to set it aside.
The argument used was primarily a slippery-slope argument: If you can take a II Amendment right from a mentally-ill person, then you could take any right (or expand that to other disabilities).
I actually understood a little where the ACLU was coming from on that and the disability groups but at the same time, something needs to be done. It should have risen tons of red flags when this guy bought ten weapons. But yes those with mental illness are far more likely to be the victims of violent crime than commit it.
re: #175 The Vicious Babushka
“We can only do one thing at a time. When I chew, I am temporarily blind.” - Dana
re: #175 The Vicious Babushka
I would like to see Dana explain how a guy in a hotel room can kill 59 people 32 floors & a block away, with hands, feet and fists.
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The biggest difference between those things and guns Dumb Dana is guns are specifically designed to end lives and the gun used two nights ago was specifically designed to as end many lives as possible in a quick amount of time as possible. Great use for military combat but for a civilian, hell fucking no. Stop crying about guns and actually show some fucking concern for humanity, you gun humping witch.
re: #177 Belafon
“We can only do one thing at a time. When I chew, I am temporarily blind.” - Dana
All that dumb woman cares about is guns. She and LaPierre both.
re: #179 HappyWarrior
All that dumb woman cares about is guns. She and LaPierre both.
Being able to only do one thing at a time also explains why she sounds like an idiot when she talks.
re: #171 Belafon
BTW, the next argument in the “we can’t control guns” from the right is “3D printers.”
Since the NRA and their pet GOPers exist to prop up and fluff gun manufacturers, wouldn’t 3D printing of guns be something they actually WOULD regulate? People being able to make their own guns would be a YUGE threat to profits, after all…
re: #171 Belafon
BTW, the next argument in the “we can’t control guns” from the right is “3D printers.”
Which puts the NRA in a bind, as they support gun manufacturers over their membership, and gun manufacturers are opposed to 3D printer guns. (They can’t make money on those.)
Vanity Fair wrote an article about what appears to be a split building within the NRA last year, and 3D guns are part of that (the rest is that for sport shooters and hunters the organisation is chock full of wingnuts, while even crazier organisations like the Gun Owners of America are peeling off NRA members who think the NRA is becoming too liberal).
One of you or someone on Twitter made a great point yesterday. “When a knife can kill 59 people and wound 500 people in 15 minutes then I’ll start calling for knife control.” The issue isn’t that guns kill in themselves. The issue is these guns kill and can kill rapidly. It must piss Dana off that the “good guy with a gun” adage is pretty much impossible to use here.
re: #182 Anymouse 🌹
Which puts the NRA in a bind, as they support gun manufacturers over their membership, and gun manufacturers are opposed to 3D printer guns. (They can’t make money on those.)
Vanity Fair wrote an article about what appears to be a split building within the NRA last year, and 3D guns are part of that (the rest is that for sport shooters and hunters the organisation is chock full of wingnuts, while even crazier organisations like the Gun Owners of America are peeling off NRA members who think the NRA is becoming too liberal).
NRA becoming too liberal? What planet do these guys live on?
re: #175 The Vicious Babushka
Dana and the other gun nuts think they need their firearms to protect them from FEDERAL TYRANNY!1!.
The US government, amongst other things, has at its disposal Reaper drones, armed with Hellfire or Paveway II missiles. They can blow away your typical Three-Percenter while he’s sitting on the can reading the latest issue of ‘Guns & Ammo’ and he’d never even know what hit him. He’d never even hear the drone - their operational ceiling is 25,000 feet and a Paveway II has an effective firing range of nine miles.
If they seriously think their AR-15 is somehow going to protect them against this, they’re sadly mistaken.
re: #183 HappyWarrior
One of you or someone on Twitter made a great point yesterday. “When a knife can kill 59 people and wound 500 people in 15 minutes then I’ll start calling for knife control.” The issue isn’t that guns kill in themselves. The issue is these guns kill and can kill rapidly. It must piss Dana off that the “good guy with a gun” adage is pretty much impossible to use here.
When a 64 year old white man kills 58 and wounds 500 in fifteen minutes from 1200 feet with a knife, I will absolutely call for knife control. Until then, you’ve made the world’s shittiest point.
— Timothy Simons (@timothycsimons) October 2, 2017
If one person could kill 59 people in 45 minutes with a man-portable pool from 1200 feet away, you would have a point.
— jay (@random__name) October 3, 2017
re: #186 Interesting Times
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Yep, that was it. Thanks. And it’s a good one. 59 people dead and 500 wounded within 15 minutes. Jesus Christ. But nope we shouldn’t talk about guns. Nope. But we can be Pat Robertson and blame NFL players. We can be that hack on FNC and blame CNN. I’m sorry and I know we have a lot of gun owners here on LGF but fuck the gun culture and gun hoarding that goes on this country.
re: #158 Belafon
I still, to this day, remember where I played it. The first Taco Bueno opened on South First in Abilene. You walked in to the order counter, which was a small area. Most of the restaurant was behind it. To the left, a hall led you to the tables. To the right was the arcade area.
While in technical school, I worked nights at an arcade across from the school on Westheimer in west Houston. Track & Field was one of the more popular games. And I saw many kids using the pencil method.
But the fact of the matter is Dana ignores that we do something about a lot of these. We do regulate pools for safety measures. We do make sure cars are in fact safe to drive. I get it. We have the second amendment which as I just saw someone say was written in a time when we fired one shot a minute. More people died Sunday night in Las Vegas than died at the Battle of Lexington and Concord that started the American Revolution.
re: #187 I cannot.
Her standard response to anyone who points out her idiocy is “Bless your heart” which is Loeschese for “Go Fuck Yourself”
re: #184 HappyWarrior
NRA becoming too liberal? What planet do these guys live on?
The Gun Owners of America and Larry Pratt make the NRA practically nannies by comparison.
en.wikipedia.org (Article on Larry Platt)
re: #190 HappyWarrior
But the fact of the matter is Dana ignores that we do something about a lot of these. We do regulate pools for safety measures. We do make sure cars are in fact safe to drive. I get it. We have the second amendment which as I just saw someone say was written in a time when we fired one shot a minute. More people died Sunday night in Las Vegas than died at the Battle of Lexington and Concord that started the American Revolution.
Yep. We ban cars that are not street legal. Which means you cannot drive a NASCAR car on the street.
re: #193 Anymouse 🌹
The Gun Owners of America and Larry Pratt make the NRA practically nannies by comparison.
en.wikipedia.org (Article on Larry Platt)
Oh I’m familiar with the GOA and Pratt. Just unreal that they think the NRA is becoming too liberal.
re: #186 Interesting Times
re: #187 I cannot.
As Eddie Izzard said, “The NRA says ‘guns don’t kill, people do’, but I think the gun helps.”
The point isn’t ‘blaming the tool’, it’s that said tool in the hands of the wrong people makes a dangerous situation deadly, and makes a deadly situation into a potential massacre. It’s a catalyst, and it literally has no other purpose than to damage and maim things. There’s no other use for a gun than to shoot things with the intent to kill.
As a point:
What the fuck is it then? A ‘tool’? What purpose does a firearm have other than being a fucking weapon, that’s the point of it
— K For Gun Control (@Citizen_Kryptik) September 12, 2017
Even if you’re an olympic fencer, people are going to be suspicious if you’re wearing a fucking sword at your hip. How are guns different?
— K For Gun Control (@Citizen_Kryptik) September 12, 2017
re: #195 HappyWarrior
Oh I’m familiar with the GOA and Pratt. Just unreal that they think the NRA is becoming too liberal.
“They have all these bogus rules at gun ranges. How are those supposed to keep us safe from the government?”
From Wikipedia, more on Larry Pratt of GOA:
Pratt has founded a variety of organizations, including English First (lobbying organization), Gun Owners of America, U.S. Border Control, and Committee to Protect the Family.
Pratt is the president of English First, an organization within the English-only movement. The organization was founded in 1986, and works to pass English Only amendments at both state and federal levels. Pratt also helped found and served as secretary of the Council for Inter-American Security, which was founded in 1976. Pratt has served as a board member of the American Legislative Exchange Council.
Pratt has also been listed as a member of the Council for National Policy (CNP). A January 13, 2001 article in The Guardian explored Pratt’s relationship with then-Attorney General nominee John Ashcroft, stating they knew each other from the CNP. The January 11, 2001 edition of TIME Magazine included an article on Pratt and Ashcroft’s relationship.
In the late 1980s and early 1990s, Pratt used his Committee to Protect the Family organization to raise $150,000 for the anti-abortion group Operation Rescue which paid $50,000 in court-imposed fines.
re: #194 Belafon
Yep. We ban cars that are not street legal. Which means you cannot drive a NASCAR car on the street.
The counter to that is “Well cars aren’t in the constitution and guns are.” I know it sounds radical but we really do need to consider when the 2nd was written. And I get that maybe that could set up a dangerous slope considering the 1st as well but whereas speech has merely taken on different forms, guns have gotten more deadly.
re: #196 Citizen K
As Eddie Izzard said, “The NRA says ‘guns don’t kill, people do’, but I think the gun helps.”
The point isn’t ‘blaming the tool’, it’s that said tool in the hands of the wrong people makes a dangerous situation deadly, and makes a deadly situation into a potential massacre. It’s a catalyst, and it literally has no other purpose than to damage and maim things. There’s no other use for a gun than to shoot things with the intent to kill.
As a point:
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The NRA wants to make guns anything but what tehy are. They are weapons. Whether you’re hunting, owning one for protection, etc.
Photos of some of the firearms used in Vegas
re: #197 Belafon
“They have all these bogus rules at gun ranges. How are those supposed to keep us safe from the government?”
Gun safety is for beta cucks man. //
re: #198 Anymouse 🌹
From Wikipedia, more on Larry Pratt of GOA:
So he’s a racist and anti abortion fanatic as well. Que shock.
The high-powered weapons included an AR-15 and an AK-47 as well as four Daniel Defense DDM4 rifles, three FN-15s and other rifles made by Sig Sauer, according to reports.
You know what is even more despicable? Refusing to acknowledge that unrestricted access to firearms in America IS A FREAKING PROBLEM.
— 🌍Vicious Babushka🌎 (@viciousbabushka) October 3, 2017
It’s never going to be acceptable to talk about guns in this country. After Sandy Hook, I’ve resigned myself to that. But I’m glad that we have elected officials like Senator Murphy of Connecticut that are willing to take on the cowards at the NRA. And make no mistake about it, Dana Loesch, Wayne LaPierre, and the NRA leadership are cowards. They think they’re tough, bad asses but they’re actually fucking cowards that hide behind guns.
The GOP just allowed CHIP to expire for 9 million children & pregnant women & won’t address gun death so don’t tell me they’re “Pro Life”
— 🌍Vicious Babushka🌎 (@viciousbabushka) October 3, 2017
re: #199 HappyWarrior
The counter to that is “Well cars aren’t in the constitution and guns are.” I know it sounds radical but we really do need to consider when the 2nd was written. And I get that maybe that could set up a dangerous slope considering the 1st as well but whereas speech has merely taken on different forms, guns have gotten more deadly.
And that goes back to the fact that for many years, the courts ruled you had an absolute right to drive a car without interference, known as the Right to Travel. Automobile ownership and driving were in fact considered constitutionally-protected against government encroachment.
The right to own a car and continually striking down state traffic laws was upheld over and over again through the Thirties, when auto deaths started getting to the point that the courts took a harder look at that.
Long PDF from Oklahoma City University Law Review, replace the (dot):
www (dot) constitution (dot) org/lrev/roots/orphaned_right (dot) pdf
re: #205 The Vicious Babushka
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Your network literally had someone that blamed CNN for the shooting, FNC. Fuck off with that shit. And Hillary wasn’t “politicizing” it all, she was correctly pointing out that no civilian should have had access to these weapons. But go ahead cry about Hillary some more and get your sexually impotent viewership into a rage at someone who isn’t even in elected office, you fucking cowards who have no idea what it’s like to lose someone to guns.
re: #140 danarchy
I think in a legal sense the key phrase in that definition is by a single function of the trigger.
What the bump stock does is facilitates pulling the trigger faster, but there is still a trigger pull for each shot.
This is where the legal sense is nonsense (I think anyway) when intent (ban full auto), and an outcome (full auto) result from a replacement / mod of the gun. In this case a weird stock. Guys used to make wind up cams they would put in the trigger. Until someone paid a huge fine and went on probation to stay out of jail. People have been charged with possession of a machine pistol when the gun lab mishandled / abused a gun enough to get it to double fire in the test tank.
I admit this is wildly uneven when you look around nationally. Cities vs rural areas.
I’m just not in the camp that finds that loophole view credible, and I suspect ATF will come around fast, still too late. The loophole view gets ATF and others such as state legislators off the hook for failed enforcement or policy. Imho. Nobody reasonable thinks the 2nd A ensures the right to that deadly modification of the guns.
It’s extremely well established that the mechanics and availability of guns can be regulated. So can people to a degree, felons are prohibited, waiting periods.
It is equally well established that laws that go un or under enforced are not effective. That’s a dire warning to those who want to pass more rules. Budgets and executive inclinations vary widely by time and geography.
re: #163 Anymouse 🌹
Well, I’m stupid. Maya Lin doesn’t really qualify as “guy,” eh?
Change that sentence above to “get the woman who designed the Vietnam Veterans Memorial.”
That list has an endpoint.
Perhaps something like the AIDS quilt, since we’ll be adding more squares on a regular basis.
Sorry guys. This is a little personal to me. I had friends and family at Virginia Tech. And my great uncle actually shot himself with a gun.
re: #199 HappyWarrior
The counter to that is “Well cars aren’t in the constitution and guns are.” I know it sounds radical but we really do need to consider when the 2nd was written. And I get that maybe that could set up a dangerous slope considering the 1st as well but whereas speech has merely taken on different forms, guns have gotten more deadly.
9th and 10th amendment, a favorite argument of theirs. And I believe the SCOTUS has ruled on the constitutionality of driving.
re: #213 Belafon
9th and 10th amendment, a favorite argument of theirs. And I believe the SCOTUS has ruled on the constitutionality of driving.
Yeah they have per AM’s link. I think we just need to use and I hate using this word since it’s abused so often these days but “common sense.” Rifles? Sure, I have no problem with someone owning one of those whether for protection or because they enjoy hunting or whatever. A handgun even I get. But weapons like these? I can’t for the life of me see the practicality of a civilian wanting to own them. I mean if you must shoot them for target shooting, maybe we can have ranges where people use them but for personal ownership? As I said, more people died two nights ago than Americans died at the battle that started the Revolutionary War.
As for printing guns, we’ll end up regulating particular plastics the same way we do fertilizer.
re: #213 Belafon
9th and 10th amendment, a favorite argument of theirs. And I believe the SCOTUS has ruled on the constitutionality of driving.
It has. They gradually moved from their position of the government cannot prevent you from pushing, pulling, dragging, or driving over the landscape without interference to the position of “cars in particular are causing increasing carnage in travel, so the government has an interest in writing regulations that protect other people’s rights.”
At least in theory the same arguments could be used for the II Amendment (and were until recently). Since the public at large has a right to live, the government has a legitimate interest in regulating the sale or training in guns (just as they argued with cars).
That article from the Oklahoma City University Law Review is a fascinating read on how the courts got from an individual absolute right to drive a car that was constitutionally protected to an absolute right to be protected from unsafe and unregulated auto drivers.
re: #199 HappyWarrior
The counter to that is “Well cars aren’t in the constitution and guns are.” I know it sounds radical but we really do need to consider when the 2nd was written. And I get that maybe that could set up a dangerous slope considering the 1st as well but whereas speech has merely taken on different forms, guns have gotten more deadly.
The other counter is the gun laws that have been upheld time and again. Very few gun laws get thrown out by the Federal courts when compared to how many held up.
Officially, we do have a contemporary reading on the 2nd. Heller. A historic, and controversial decision. So we have a clear path to regulation within the 2nd.
Not aimed at you, but at those who cry for a Constitutional convention. I see a severe need to show first and foremost how a bunch of legislators unable to get it done under the constitution can be trusted with a fundamental do over. Where is the necessary ethical balance and political competence? In a post Citizens V United nation?
My son just posted this to his FB page:
Millions of people uprooted themselves and fled from their properties to avoid getting injured or killed by hurricane Harvey or Irma. Hundreds of millions of productive work hours set aside, to minimize human casualty.
One terrorist monster with an unchecked arsenal of weapons can wreak more death and havoc then the strongest hurricane to hit the US in one hundred years.
If it’s in our hands to minimize the death of human lives from the greatest force of nature, then it is in our hands to prevent, minimize any future mass shooting.
It’s in our hands if we have the will.
Heartbroken for Las Vegas and this American tragedy.
What happened in Vegas last night must not remain in Vegas.
We’ll Find a Way for You to Keep Your Guns if You Find a Way for Us to Keep our Kids (Goes to Tea Pain’s blog)
re: #217 Unshaken Defiance
The other counter is the gun laws that have been upheld time and again. Very few gun laws get thrown out by the Federal courts when compared to how many held up.
Officially, we do have a contemporary reading on the 2nd. Heller. A historic, and controversial decision. So we have a clear path to regulation within the 2nd.
Not aimed at you, but at those who cry for a Constitutional convention. I see a severe need to show first and foremost how a bunch of legislators unable to get it done under the constitution can be trusted with a fundamental do over. Where is the necessary ethical balance and political competence? In a post Citizens V United nation?
I agree with you about the convention and legislators especially in the Post CU world. It’s honestly tough because people say they want things like universal background checks and things like that but when we actually vote, we’re easily riled by fear spread by the usual suspects.
— Dana Loesch (@DLoesch) October 3, 2017
Pools: there are zoning laws about the fencing around pools, covers over pools, “attractive nuisance” principles in tort law… if somebody else’s kid dies in your pool, they get all your money.
Cars: seat belt laws, airbags, stricter drunk driving limits, new materials for windshields, guard rails and speed bumps in selected locations… the annual death toll from automobile-related deaths is down 40% from the 1960’s.
Cigarettes: OMG the RULES about cigarettes!! Where you can smoke, age limit to buy cigarettes, etc etc etc. Not in restaurants, nightclubs, schools, offices, Central Park. NYC now has entire apartment buildings that forbid smoking by anyone ever, even in their own home.
Alcohol: lots of rules about who, when and where. Also, the purveyor is allowed required to say “no, you have enough, I can’t sell you anymore” if he (in his sole judgment) believes you may be a danger to others.
I love it when our local creationist talks about confirmation bias.
re: #221 sagehen
Exactly. Those things are regulated. Dana’s full of you know what.
re: #217 Unshaken Defiance
Yeah, the Koch Brothers and fellow travellers are working toward an Article V convention.
There is nothing in the Constitution that limits what a convention could do once it’s called.
Right to vote based on land ownership or one-vote-per-dollar? Abortion rights gone? Jim Crow installed as part of the Constitution? Outlawing religious freedom except the correct religion? All would be on the table, and the extremists would dominate such a convention.
No thanks.
re: #218 The Vicious Babushka
My son just posted this to his FB page:
(middle cut)
It’s in our hands if we have the will.
Heartbroken for Las Vegas and this American tragedy.
What happened in Vegas last night must not remain in Vegas.
You raised a thoughtful son. Bravo. You can tell him I said so. /s
re: #223 HappyWarrior
Exactly. Those things are regulated. Dana’s full of you know what.
Cattle kill more people here than cars, knives, or even guns. Let’s outlaw cattle in a county with half a million cattle and three thousand people.
Aside from the absurdity of that, we have regulations of freakin’ cattle. Where they can graze, what highway markings are required for open range, what marks are required on them to show ownership, &c &c &c.
Cattle are better regulated than guns.
re: #226 Anymouse 🌹
Cattle kill more people here than cars, knives, or even guns. Let’s outlaw cattle in a county with half a million cattle and three thousand people.
Aside from the absurdity of that, we have regulations of freakin’ cattle. Where they can graze, what highway markings are required for open range, what marks are required on them to show ownership, &c &c &c.
Cattle are better regulated than guns.
Yeppers.
Dana Milbank column in language even Trump can understand.
See Rex.
Rex is a big dog. Rex is the top dog. Rex has a good job. Rex can fly! Rex has a jet. Fly, Rex, fly. Rex flies to other lands. Rex sits. Rex shakes. Rex speaks. When Rex speaks, Rex thinks he speaks for the U.S.A.
See Donald. Donald owns Rex. Rex is Donald’s dog. Donald is loud. Donald is big. Donald is bigger than Rex. Donald is mean to Rex. When Rex speaks, Donald tweets. Donald tweets like a bird. Tweet, Donald, tweet. Donald’s tweets hurt Rex. Donald says: Bad, Rex! Do not speak, Rex. Rex, you do not speak for the U.S.A. Only Donald speaks
Rex rolls over. Roll, Rex, roll. Good boy. Rex tells Donald he will not be a bad dog again. Rex tries. Rex tries hard. Rex tries very hard. But then Rex forgets. Rex thinks he speaks for the U.S.A. again. Donald gets mad again. Donald tweets again. Rex rolls over again.
Rex is so sad. Rex wants to cry. Rex was a big boss once. He dug for oil. Dig, Rex, dig. Rex made a lot of bones. But Donald said: Do not dig, Rex. Come be my dog.
So God told Rexxon his new job was to be Trump’s dog. He does make a good one.
re: #144 sizzzzlerz
As evil and horrendous as that is, the fact that 20 children and 6 adults died in a mass shooting in Sandy Hook just 5 years ago and we let the gun lobby and their congressional whores get away with doing nothing, nothing!, about it is where that evil line was crossed. When a people can witness the slaughter of 26 people in a place of learning and make absolutely no changes to gun laws is, in my mind, the beginning of the end.
We must not let that happen here. Where do good people stand up and say “Enough!”.
A lot of good people do stand up and say enough.
But it turns out…it is not enough.
We have a government that no longer represents the people. Gun control is a perfect example. Even Republican gun owners poll saying they are okay with some controls.
So who has control? Money. NRA. People that are not even voted into office. It’s been that way for too long.
Until the NRA has some power taken from it, this is the new normal. Who can stop the NRA? The people that apparently are fine with them and do not say enough.
There is no individual right in the second amendment. It is a false interpretation held in place by greed mongers, conspiracy theorists and religious fanatics.
re: #146 HappyWarrior
When our last President showed emotion after Sandy Hook, the right wing bastards mocked him and others including people who have the current president’s ear suggested it was staged.
Onions.
Also, it’s pretty fucking sad that Late Night Comedians have become our nations conscience.
Not politicians, not the media, not business leaders.
Comedians.
re: #231 Amory Blaine
There is no individual right in the second amendment. It is a false interpretation held in place by greed mongers, conspiracy theorists and religious fanatics.
The Supreme Court has ruled there is. And that’s not going to change anytime soon.
This link provides a view of what any gun owner needs to know to come here.
oag.ca.gov
It’s a little unsettling that California has had to extend a registration period for guns a lot like those used in Vegas and San Bernardino. Because they could not set it up in a timely manner. January 1st was the deadline.
re: #234 Eclectic Cyborg
Also, it’s pretty fucking sad that Late Night Comedians have become our nations conscience.
Not politicians, not the media, not business leaders.
Comedians.
I never thought that Jimmy Kimmel would be a more eloquent speaker than POTUS. Now I always liked Jimmy but Jimmy was Ben Stein’s sidekick on Win Ben Stein’s money and the co-host of the Man Show. No diss on Jimmy meant but man it says something about him (good) and bad about our leaders.
We FOIA’d the calls to Trump’s ICE snitchline—it’s a grotesque look inside an emerging Stasi operation https://t.co/PyDqYEesWO
— John Cook (@johnjcook) October 3, 2017
re: #239 FormerDirtDart
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What’s happening to this country? We get furious at kneeling during the national anthem but this, this something out of a dictatorship doesn’t seem to bother people a damn.
re: #222 Belafon
I love it when our local creationist talks about confirmation bias.
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re: #240 HappyWarrior
What’s happening to this country? We get furious at kneeling during the national anthem but this, this something out of a dictatorship doesn’t seem to bother people a damn.
I doubt most people know what’s going on.
re: #243 Belafon
I doubt most people know what’s going on.
Agree. Furthermore, I suspect many are intentionally trying to ignore what is going on.
re: #243 Belafon
I doubt most people know what’s going on.
Moreover, they don’t care, if it happens to “those people.”
re: #245 gwangung
Moreover, they don’t care, if it happens to “those people.”
Indifference. “I’m not an illegal so I don’t care.”
re: #243 Belafon
I doubt most people know what’s going on.
True and if they do know, they just don’t seem to care because it’s not them or their family.
re: #163 Anymouse 🌹
Well, I’m stupid. Maya Lin doesn’t really qualify as “guy,” eh?
Change that sentence above to “get the woman who designed the Vietnam Veterans Memorial.”
I remember the controversy about her selection to design the monument. One-third because she was a woman, two-thirds because she was Asian. The ratios are reversed depending on the forum.
re: #243 Belafon
I doubt most people know what’s going on.
Sort of like Nazi Germany, or the Soviet Eastern Bloc.
There is a difference today, as shown in the Women’s March and the March for Science: Today we have instant communications via the Internet.
Whilst the Internet has created a bunch of batshit insane crap, it also is a valuable tool for spreading truthful information and organising against injustice or oppression. (That latter part doesn’t get enough credit.)
OT: at the post office for my interview. Ave Ceasar? ;)
re: #251 William Lewis
OT: at the post office for my interview. Ave Ceasar? ;)
Good luck with that. (We have a job opening at our post office if you want to move here, by the way.)
I agree that a lot of people don’t want to know. But it took an FOIA to get this information. We’ll have to spread it. That’s what I meant about most people not knowing.
Nobel recognizes gravitational wave discovery https://t.co/Si2miHm5qa #science
— ggt (@geegeetee) October 3, 2017
What new tragedy or destructive act of nature will we hear about today?
Every congressional member who sent “thoughts and prayers” over Las Vegas and also took money from the NRA.
re: #247 Birth Control Works
For Baba:
These Insanely Gorgeous Pie Crusts Will Get You So Ready For Fall
There is a fine line between “artistic” pie crusts and “soft, flaky” pie crusts. I have found out that the more you manipulate the dough, the harder and tougher it gets. So yeah while those pie crusts might be pleasing to the eye, they are chewy.
At some point you have to decide if your pie is for eating or instagram.
That said, I’m going to order some nice pie dough cutters on Amazon.
re: #196 Citizen K
As Eddie Izzard said, “The NRA says ‘guns don’t kill, people do’, but I think the gun helps.”
The point isn’t ‘blaming the tool’, it’s that said tool in the hands of the wrong people makes a dangerous situation deadly, and makes a deadly situation into a potential massacre. It’s a catalyst, and it literally has no other purpose than to damage and maim things. There’s no other use for a gun than to shoot things with the intent to kill.
As a point:
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I don’t know the history of this, but it was taught at the Firearm’s Safety Course I attended.
re: #257 The Vicious Babushka
There is a fine line between “artistic” pie crusts and “soft, flaky” pie crusts. I have found out that the more you manipulate the dough, the harder and tougher it gets. So yeah while those pie crusts might be pleasing to the eye, they are chewy.
At some point you have to decide if your pie is for eating or instagram.
That said, I’m going to order some nice pie dough cutters on Amazon.
Yes, it’s the same with Pasta Dough. The less manipulation the better!
re: #258 Birth Control Works
Citizens can own/use firearms. Only the Military can own/use weapons.
I don’t know the history of this, but it was taught at the Firearm’s Safety Course I attended.
I hope someone pointed out that it was a distinction without a difference.
re: #260 Citizen K
I hope someone pointed out that it was a distinction without a difference.
I think weapons include tanks and flame throwers and such.
re: #261 Birth Control Works
I think weapons include tanks and flame throwers and such.
But where does a ‘firearm’ fail to be a ‘weapon’, exactly?
re: #260 Citizen K
I hope someone pointed out that it was a distinction without a difference.
It reminds me of when DF would get pedantic about differences between weapons. I admit that I’m no firearms expert but some of the stuff he would get pedantic about in discussion in regards to them really bugged me. I think talking down to people who may not have an encyclopedic knowledge of guns and how they work really distracts from the real issue at hand which is reducing gun violence.
re: #261 Birth Control Works
I think weapons include tanks and flame throwers and such.
Way I would see it is this. All guns are weapons but not all weapons are guns.
re: #261 Birth Control Works
I think weapons include tanks and flame throwers and such.
Flamethrowers and tanks are legal to own in most states. (Firing a tank, not so much. Flamethrowers are mostly unregulated, and you can buy them on-line.)
Last I checked, you needed to pass a test and get a license to operate a car or a plane, subject to regular review and renewals.
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) October 3, 2017
The neo-Nazi still up, so more reporting material (racial hatred or targeted harassment, your choice).
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The other big fallacy I see is to attack liberal cities like Chicago and Washington for their gun laws and use them as “proof” gun laws don’t work while ignoring that those cities are very near two states with lax gun laws. Our states aren’t vacuums. 48/50 are connected in some way or form.
re: #267 Nyet
The neo-Nazi still up, so more reporting material (racial hatred or targeted harassment, your choice).
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re: #259 Birth Control Works
Yes, it’s the same with Pasta Dough. The less manipulation the better!
Anyway I can’t roll pie crust while sitting so I can only make graham cracker crusts. Which is OK because Zedu’s favorite pie is Key Lime!
im sure Trump will take this in stride >> Oxfam Condemns Trump Admin’s ‘Slow And Inadequate’ Puerto Rico Response https://t.co/ZR66peehDf
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) October 3, 2017
If this isn’t the live-action remake of Bambi, I don’t know what is. pic.twitter.com/Wwflpv9Y00
— Fluff Society (@FluffSociety) October 2, 2017
Yesterday was…interesting and distressing.
So many moving parts.
the initial horror, the lies, the spin, the false information
the ensuing discussions about things that matter, and at the same time don’t.
tom petty on the edge of forever
today i took the morning off. ran, (showered), made a ton of oatmeal, read a book
for the rest of the day i will do two things
- remember and be grateful for the miracle of my continued singular existence
- make the lives of some other people a bit better
be back tomorrow
ps Toni is back home. She writes:
I know this bump in tbe road, too, will pass. I take deep breaths, and I will NEVER stop fighting!
Thank you, Stuart, for the beautiful memories you shared. Thank you for the love and friendship we share. Thank you for sharing Zeus and Little Charlie the Wonder Dog.
I see those politicizing #LasVagasShooting saying “we should have seen the signs!” What about Antifa? Signs galore. https://t.co/zyEbMvLVdm
— Steven Crowder (@scrowder) October 3, 2017
Crowder: Don’t politicize #LasVegasShooting.
Same Tweet: WE NEED TO GO AFTER ANTIFA!!!!!!!! https://t.co/XCCzunk4ZP— aceoaces (@aceoaces) October 3, 2017
Maybe it’s because I really needed a laugh at the end of a long tiring day, but stumbling upon this had me cracking up way too much..
For those taking this Senatorial quiz, when McConnell’s photo comes up, just type Turtle as the answer, it’ll accept (gonna try ‘Zodiac’ when Cruz comes up)… 😂🤣😂https://t.co/An3uKUFv6v
— Arch1 (@Arch_LGF) October 3, 2017
Hey, remember when Antifa shot 500+ people? Me neither.
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) October 3, 2017
re: #268 HappyWarrior
The other big fallacy I see is to attack liberal cities like Chicago and Washington for their gun laws and use them as “proof” gun laws don’t work while ignoring that those cities are very near two states with lax gun laws. Our states aren’t vacuums. 48/50 are connected in some way or form.
To that, I provide this:
Nothing to see here. pic.twitter.com/JNFkAcpiHm
— Ben Wikler (@benwikler) October 2, 2017
And the article sourcing both those charts: America’s gun problem, explained
Guy was 32 floors up. Do I gotta bring a sniper riffle to outdoor concerts now?
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) October 3, 2017
re: #262 Citizen K
But where does a ‘firearm’ fail to be a ‘weapon’, exactly?
It doesn’t.
Again, I don’t understand.
re: #269 HappyWarrior
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I hate being right:
Fox News host defends 23 guns in shooter’s hotel room: ‘The firearms this gentleman owns were legal’ https://t.co/Lvgc1ouuej
— Raw Story (@RawStory) October 3, 2017
So yeah, after the initial disbelief (“No way he could have bought all those legally!”), now the narrative is shifting (“Those guns were totally legal, showing gun laws don’t work!”).
Louvre pulls sculpture, saying it was sexually explicit. https://t.co/oww41nfEzg pic.twitter.com/DaTznErMXC
— Ted Gioia (@tedgioia) October 3, 2017
This sort of NIMBYism is what derails the procreation of affordable housing. https://t.co/jj9XgNqjK6
— Yoni Appelbaum (@YAppelbaum) October 3, 2017
re: #270 The Vicious Babushka
Anyway I can’t roll pie crust while sitting so I can only make graham cracker crusts. Which is OK because Zedu’s favorite pie is Key Lime!
I knew he was a good guy!
Misspelled hashtag #LasVagasShooting is trending with NRA talking points because right-wingers just can’t spell.
— aceoaces (@aceoaces) October 3, 2017
re: #282 Targetpractice
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So yeah, after the initial disbelief (“No way he could have bought all those legally!”), now the narrative is shifting (“Those guns were totally legal, showing gun laws don’t work!”).
Yes, they were legal. That’s the fucking problem you nitwits.
The president who trashed civil discourse doesn’t get to determine the etiquette for addressing delicate topics. https://t.co/56VOBHEhI9
— Jennifer Rubin (@JRubinBlogger) October 3, 2017
serious ?: does anybody know why Jennifer Rubin is still GOP? is there ANYTHING she’s still with them on? like i’d say “deficits” but lol https://t.co/coZDagDQRp
— Rebecca Schoenkopf (@commiegirl1) October 3, 2017
re: #279 Ace-o-aces
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We’re not more defenseless with gun control but keep on telling yourself NRA fantasies like “Good guys with guns will always stop bad guys with guns” if it makes you feel better.
re: #282 Targetpractice
That’s some keen law enforcement instincts Sheriff Clarke:
“Guy buying a arsenal of military weapons. I’m sure his intentions are innocent.”— aceoaces (@aceoaces) October 3, 2017
re: #288 Anymouse 🌹
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If it is deficits, she’s note ven GOP anymore since the Trump admin admitted that they don’t care. Didn’t like Jen in the Obama years but she’s been consistently anti-Trump and I respect that.
I predict they will go all pedant on you and go on about how many were due to panic instead of the shooting (which caused the panic)
— jay (@random__name) October 3, 2017
Man, imagine if the right believed in unfettered access to the ballot box as much as they believed in the right to own guns.
— Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) October 3, 2017
re: #290 Ace-o-aces
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Where’s Margie to tell Lou that she doesn’t agree with his police work. I mean yeah they were legal. Maybe that’s a fucking problem. Guy buys 23 weapons like this and it’s legal? That’s a problem.
re: #292 I cannot.
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Yeah, that’s been the talking point since yesterday, the idea that most of the deaths were due to trampling, thus the shooter didn’t “really” kill 59 people.
re: #297 Targetpractice
Yeah, that’s been the talking point since yesterday, the idea that most of the deaths were due to trampling, thus the shooter didn’t “really” kill 59 people.
I wonder if there is a category in the FBI database for “trampling?”
re: #294 HappyWarrior
Where’s Margie to tell Lou that she doesn’t agree with his police work. I mean yeah they were legal. Maybe that’s a fucking problem. Guy buys 23 weapons like this and it’s legal? That’s a problem.
Many people in my town own more than one gun (various type of hunting weapons, target shooting, &c) - there are many more guns here than people. I don’t necessarily consider that a problem with the people here, but this is a deeply rural area, not Las Vegas.
The only person here who owns an arsenal of weapons is the gun shop owner (well, because he owns all the guns in the shop.)
I am probably the most lightly armed person here with one shotgun.
Trump’s Energy Department reported that Puerto Rican power plants were barely damaged. Trump claimed last week that one was “wiped out.” pic.twitter.com/XE2fjYZ6q6
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) October 3, 2017
re: #274 Ace-o-aces
I have found that almost all of the “antifa” Twitter accounts are actually wingnut trolls.
President Trump: “Now I hate to tell you, Puerto Rico, but you’ve thrown our budget a little out of whack” https://t.co/3DSMX2ysAx
— NBC News (@NBCNews) October 3, 2017
re: #263 HappyWarrior
It reminds me of when DF would get pedantic about differences between weapons. I admit that I’m no firearms expert but some of the stuff he would get pedantic about in discussion in regards to them really bugged me. I think talking down to people who may not have an encyclopedic knowledge of guns and how they work really distracts from the real issue at hand which is reducing gun violence.
I saw that garbage happen, and IMO it was always a deliberate deflection. Every moment spent parsing arcane gun technicalities is a distraction from the need to get something done about guns.
re: #302 FormerDirtDart
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God just shut the fuck up. They didn’t want to have this happen to them, you imbecile.
re: #302 FormerDirtDart
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Situations like this are why I’d never make it as an elected official. I’d tell him, “Go fuck yourself” and then walk away.
re: #301 The Vicious Babushka
I have found that almost all of the “antifa” Twitter accounts are actually wingnut trolls.
And Twitter is very slow to remove them on people reporting them for violations of terms of service.
Pretty much as if Twitter values Nazis, trolls, death threats, &c, unless you are an extremely valuable commodity (like Leslie Jones). Only then do you matter.
re: #303 EPR-radar
I saw that garbage happen, and IMO it was always a deliberate deflection. Every moment spent parsing arcane gun technicalities is a distraction from the need to get something done about guns.
Always annoyed the living fuck out of me. I’ll admit it. I don’t understand guns that well but I know why these weapons exist. They’re created to fire fast for a reason.
re: #305 Dr Lizardo
Situation like this are why I’d never make it as an elected official. I’d tell him, “Go fuck yourself” and then walk away.
Yep. After the trashing he and his supporters have done of her. Along with spreading lies about her. I wouldn’t give him the photo-op he wanted.
That’s the kind of presser you call to celebrate the opening of a new hotel.
Meanwhile, 1.5 million Americans are drinking rain water— Bill Weir (@BillWeirCNN) October 3, 2017
re: #302 FormerDirtDart
Puerto Rico ordered up two hurricanes to foul up the Republican budget. They should feel bad.
Perhaps Mayor Cruz would like to run for President?
re: #308 Eventual Carrion
First they came for …
I actually saw the concentration camp where the author of that poem was held this summer. Really, really moving but as I’ve told Lizardom befoer, the most disturbing part of that visit wasn’t the remains of the crematorium, it was the SS officers’ houses not even a mile from the camp. That’s going to stay with me the rest of my life.
re: #302 FormerDirtDart
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That was very inconsiderate of them. Did they even try to not have a Category 4 Hurricane devastate their island?//
And I know they’re going to say “Oh he was just joking” but you knwo what, it’s a stupid thing ot joke about.
He’s fucking insane
Trump to PR official: “So what’s your death count? Sixteen? You can be very proud, only sixteen instead of thousands in Katrina.”
— Christina Wilkie (@christinawilkie) October 3, 2017
re: #247 Birth Control Works
Truly works of art. Impressive!
re: #303 EPR-radar
I saw that garbage happen, and IMO it was always a deliberate deflection. Every moment spent parsing arcane gun technicalities is a distraction from the need to get something done about guns.
Yup. And that whinge from the NRA about “discrimination against firearms owners for calling them weapons?” You know what, you can kill a soldier with a civilian firearm. It’s not even a distinction without a difference, “firearm” is a subset of “weapon.”
I wonder if the dead police officer, five wounded police officers, the dead Army veteran, and others killed, wounded, and traumatised in the Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting were trying to decide whether they were being killed or injured with a “weapon” or a “firearm.”
NFL says MNF ratings up 6 percent thru first quarter of season, ticket sales solid
— daniel kaplan (@dkaplanSBJ) October 3, 2017
The Trumptard boycott is going well, I see. LMAO. https://t.co/ZLSxF5F0BO
— Bart Hubbuch (@BartHubbuch) October 3, 2017
re: #291 HappyWarrior
If it is deficits, she’s note ven GOP anymore since the Trump admin admitted that they don’t care. Didn’t like Jen in the Obama years but she’s been consistently anti-Trump and I respect that.
She’s a 1978 Republican; still believes in everything that was party orthodoxy then.
re: #282 Targetpractice
I hate being right:
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So yeah, after the initial disbelief (“No way he could have bought all those legally!”), now the narrative is shifting (“Those guns were totally legal, showing gun laws don’t work!”).
As I wrote elsewhere, would these treasonous hypocrites be going along with the same “perfectly legal” argument if the shooter’s first name was Muhammad? I’m thinking not….
re: #302 FormerDirtDart
He said this, too.
Trump to PR official: “So what’s your death count? Sixteen? You can be very proud, only sixteen instead of thousands in Katrina.”
— Christina Wilkie (@christinawilkie) October 3, 2017
Trump could not say the right thing if his life depended on it.
PS Stanley Sea got there before me.
re: #283 FormerDirtDart
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“Sometimes a building that has a face-like upper room on a vertical trunk-like element standing on two leg-like columns and support beams resembling arms attached firmly to a lower more horizontal building on four leg-like columns with a forward room resembling an O-face is just a building that has a face-like upper room on a vertical trunk-like element standing on two leg-like columns and support beams resembling arms attached firmly to a lower more horizontal building on four leg-like columns with a forward room resembling an O-face”
~Sigmund Freud
re: #312 HappyWarrior
I actually saw the concentration camp where the author of that poem was held this summer. Really, really moving but as I’ve told Lizardom befoer, the most disturbing part of that visit wasn’t the remains of the crematorium, it was the SS officers’ houses not even a mile from the camp. That’s going to stay with me the rest of my life.
And the deniers always claim that the SS officers housing compound with all its amenities was for the prisoners.
Does the NRA install automatic “thoughts & prayers” buttons on lawmakers keyboards while bringing bags of cash 2 their offices? #ActOrShutUp
— Kurt Eichenwald (@kurteichenwald) October 3, 2017
Trump on Puerto Rico: “On a local level, they have to give us more help.”
(via White House pool) pic.twitter.com/x717eLVYEy— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) October 3, 2017
Fringe pro-Trump media invented a Puerto Rican trucker strike. Trump just complained about Puerto Rican truckers: https://t.co/mWjgTTUXv2
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) October 3, 2017
re: #321 Archangelus
As I wrote elsewhere, would these treasonous hypocrites be going along with the same “perfectly legal” argument if the shooter’s first name was Muhammad? I’m thinking not….
I tweeted just now that racists fear violence by PoC, but when a white guy opens fire on a crowd of mostly white people it’s completely different. Don’t fear the white man with the automatic weapons, fear the 13-year-old AA boy with a bag of groceries.
How does this even come up?
More Trump in Puerto Rico: “That’s an expensive plane you can’t see. As you heard, we cut the price very substantially. Something that other administrations would never have done. That I can tell you.”
— Dave Brown (@dave_brown24) October 3, 2017
re: #282 Targetpractice
I hate being right:
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So yeah, after the initial disbelief (“No way he could have bought all those legally!”), now the narrative is shifting (“Those guns were totally legal, showing gun laws don’t work!”).
That all of the guns were legal gets right to the heart of the fucking problem.
re: #328 FormerDirtDart
Not only that, but “cutting the price very substantially” WAS something that another administration (Obama) did…
The guy’s freaking insane. I don’t know how those closest to him can even keep going along with it anymore…
re: #323 Barefoot Grin
“Sometimes a building that has a face-like upper room on a vertical trunk-like element standing on two leg-like columns and support beams resembling arms attached firmly to a lower more horizontal building on four leg-like columns with a forward room resembling an O-face is just a building that has a face-like upper room on a vertical trunk-like element standing on two leg-like columns and support beams resembling arms attached firmly to a lower more horizontal building on four leg-like columns with a forward room resembling an O-face”
~Sigmund Freud
What would he make of this?
re: #328 FormerDirtDart
How does this even come up?
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God does he ever know how to shut up and stay on point. I have ADD too but I didn’t go off on tangents like this when I gave my Nana and grandfather’s eulogies.
re: #328 FormerDirtDart
Holy shit. The military bought and incorporated Wonder Woman’s invisible plane into service.
Seriously tRump has lost his damn mind (or never had it).
re: #332 wheat-dogg
What would he make of this?
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Heaven’s Gate? (That’s a cool structure, by the way.)
Help @GDouglasJones win the Dec. 12th #ALsenate race-he’s less than 6 points down to vicious bigot Roy Moore #Resist https://t.co/1drYkQthPy
— Scott Dworkin (@funder) October 3, 2017
re: #334 CongoJack
Holy shit. The military bought and incorporated Wonder Woman’s invisible plane into service.
Seriously tRump has lost his damn mind (or never had it).
I’m wondering what Melania is thinking as she sits next to this babbling baboon.
re: #334 CongoJack
Holy shit. The military bought and incorporated Wonder Woman’s invisible plane into service.
Seriously tRump has lost his damn mind (or never had it).
“You literally can’t see it.” pic.twitter.com/ENmCTBDo1Z
— Collin Krum (@collinkrum) October 3, 2017
re: #131 Shropshire Slasher
What if the people who received the pardons didn’t accept them?
They go to jail.
re: #337 wheat-dogg
I’m wondering what Melania is thinking as she sits next to this babbling baboon.
She’s calculating how much she’s going to get when he dies.
re: #335 Barefoot Grin
Heaven’s Gate? (That’s a cool structure, by the way.)
Beijingers call it “Big Underpants.”
A non-exhaustive comparison of the response by President Trump to terror attacks depending on whether the perpetrator(s) or victims are Muslim #disappointing pic.twitter.com/qPbsAtULus
— Miqdaad Versi (@miqdaad) October 2, 2017
This can be saved for future additions, but let’s be real, the proportions will stay exactly the same… https://t.co/YoMdeVyyLp
— Arch1 (@Arch_LGF) October 3, 2017
re: #338 FormerDirtDart
Doesn’t the F-35 also have a pilot issue where oxygen wouldn’t reach the pilot and they would pass out during flight? If memory serves President BO tried to kill the F-35 because it was a money pit but Boehner didn’t allow it through congress because the engine was made in his district.
Fuck Boehner - he created this and he is likely to get a walk on it all.
That went well. Now I just have to wait on an overworked and understaffed HR department.
re: #326 Skip Intro
Trump on Puerto Rico: “On a local level, they have to give us more help.”
(via White House pool) pic.twitter.com
— Sahil Kapur
What the whut?
re: #337 wheat-dogg
I’m wondering what Melania is thinking as she sits next to this babbling baboon.
$$$$$$
re: #288 Anymouse 🌹
The president who trashed civil discourse doesn’t get to determine the etiquette for addressing delicate topics.
— Jennifer Rubin
I see no lies here.
With all the crap happening Sunday, Wonkette reminds that Sunday was President Jimmy Carter’s birthday.
Published on Monday, it starts:
Yesterday was Jimmy Carter’s 93rd birthday. (Peace be upon him.) He celebrated it by teaching Sunday school at his church in Plains, Georgia, as he does most Sundays. He didn’t go on Twitter to tell the world what a great Sunday school teacher he is, and he says maybe now that he’s 93, he and Rosalynn might start thinking about putting in fewer hours at the Carter Center, just a little bit. At least, the subject has come up:
“We thought about this when I was 80. We thought about it again when I was 85; we thought about it again when I was 90. So this is a propitious time I think for us to carry out our long-delayed plans.”
Or maybe he’ll wait until the Guinea Worm, a nasty parasite the Carter Center has been trying to send into extinction, is finally eradicated.
re: #340 Skip Intro
She’s calculating how much she’s going to get when he dies.
Good luck with that, Mel. He’ll die in debt the estate will need to pay, and anyway, I bet his kids will get most of the estate. Maybe her prenup will keep her comfortable post-Donald.
re: #326 Skip Intro
Fringe pro-Trump media invented a Puerto Rican trucker strike. Trump just complained about Puerto Rican truckers:
— Daniel Dale
Invisible planes, invisible trucker strikes….
re: #344 William Lewis
That went well. Now I just have to wait on an overworked and understaffed HR department.
Now you know my pain. Went in for an interview two weeks ago, did a follow-up interview last Monday with the general manager where I submitted a sample for a drug test, and I was just told yesterday that it probably won’t be until sometime tomorrow when they’ll know the final results of the background check on me.
re: #349 wheat-dogg
Good luck with that, Mel. He’ll die in debt the estate will need to pay, and anyway, I bet his kids will get most of the estate. Maybe her prenup will keep her comfortable post-Donald.
Can’t wait to see the Melania vs Ivanka/Junior/Eric court feuds.
re: #348 Anymouse 🌹
With all the crap happening Sunday, Wonkette reminds that Sunday was President Jimmy Carter’s birthday.
Published on Monday, it starts:
The Carters are as tough as Queen Liz — seemingly immortal.
That’s the kind of old age I aspire to.
re: #349 wheat-dogg
I’m sure she’s working on ways to completely cut them out, just like they’re doing to Tiffany.
I look forward to him dying just to see the shitshow over his estate.
re: #352 Sir John Barron
Can’t wait to see the Melania vs Ivanka/Junior/Eric court feuds.
It’ll be ugly, to be sure. Fighting over the scraps of The Donald’s over-leveraged estate.
re: #258 Birth Control Works
Citizens can own/use firearms. Only the Military can own/use weapons.
I don’t know the history of this, but it was taught at the Firearm’s Safety Course I attended.
I’m willing to bet this was an NRA firearms safety course. Denial of the self-evident fact that guns are weapons is part of their incessant propaganda campaign.
In his ranting presser, Shitler actually said not many people have heard of a Category 5 storm before one hit PR.
re: #352 Sir John Barron
Can’t wait to see the Melania vs Ivanka/Junior/Eric court feuds.
Considering the way Ivana’s little vipers are working to move Tiffany out of the will, I suspect Melania and Barron will be lucky if they get enough to pay the bills Donald leaves behind.
US Office of Special Counsel concludes Nikki Haley violated the Hatch Act by RTing Trump’s endorsement of candidate https://t.co/G4FfwkMpMt pic.twitter.com/Uf3ZkRUZYo
— Anna Massoglia (@annalecta) October 3, 2017
re: #282 Targetpractice
now the narrative is shifting (“Those guns were totally legal, showing gun laws don’t work!”).
“Because we already have incredibly restrictive gun laws and no gun zones and still this guy legally bought 40 guns…”
/
re: #356 wheat-dogg
It’ll be ugly, to be sure. Fighting over the scraps of The Donald’s over-leveraged estate.
I’m rooting for Tiffany
BREAKING: Aides have placed small Puerto Rican flag on White House lawn for Trump to just yell at pic.twitter.com/NQ2wUN8E60
— joel tyler (@joeltyler_) October 3, 2017
re: #359 Targetpractice
Considering the way Ivana’s little vipers are working to move Tiffany out of the will, I suspect Melania and Barron will be lucky if they get enough to pay the bills Donald leaves behind.
TBH, she’d be better off divorcing the shlub now than waiting until he kicks the bucket.
re: #358 Dr. Matt
In his ranting presser, Shitler actually said not many people have heard of a Category 5 storm before one hit PR.
Might ask the folks about Hurricanes Camille or Andrew.
re: #362 Sir John Barron
I’m rooting for Tiffany
Think it’s safe to say most of the world is rooting for Tiffany at this stage…
re: #358 Dr. Matt
I shouldn’t be surprised at this shit anymore, but yet, he still manages to find a way.
re: #354 Backwoods_Sleuth
see-through border wall…
Soon they may propose an invisible fence; then they just have to convince all Mexicans to wear shock collars.
From Think Progress. Haven’t read, but someone requested.
United States rejects UN resolution condemning use of death penalty for LGBTQ people
re: #369 Big Beautiful Door
Soon they may propose an invisible fence; then they just have to convince all Mexicans to wear shock collars.
Like in the move Running Man.
re: #328 FormerDirtDart
How does this even come up?
Trump has zero empathy. He can fake it when he needs to rile someone up, but he can’t actually talk to people about their problems.
According to the police, the police didn’t stop the shooter, the shooter killed hinself before the police reached him
— WB Young (@FormerDirtDart) October 3, 2017
He’s so fat/self conscious that he’s wearing a jacket in sweltering PR.
Jason Chaffetz Can’t Think of a ‘Single Thing That Would Have Prevented’ Las Vegas Shooting https://t.co/w2aij2LUks pic.twitter.com/k7Q50CQn6g
— Mediaite (@Mediaite) October 3, 2017
It takes a brave man to admit on national television that he is too stupid to find his own ass. https://t.co/icvrdvvy0m
— John Scalzi (@scalzi) October 3, 2017
Hello all.
I always considered Tom to be a class act, and a fantastic songwriter. Him and Mike Campbell complimented each other so well. Masters of understatement.Tom Petty was one of the best rhythm guitarists I ever heard and his leads were spot on.
Here’s a video with Howie Epstein and David Grohl on drums that IMHO sums up the power this band had. From Wildflowers, which I think is one of his best works.
Video is tilted so it can get around copyright (says poster).
This is a band taking the stage completely over and strutting.
They kill it.
My old band did a cover of this and I loved to play it.
It’s just rock and roll.
One more gone.
Like a newborn baby it just happens every day.
Damn it.
re: #340 Skip Intro
She’s calculating how much she’s going to get when he dies.
Probably just a token gift or whatever is stipulated in the pre-nup.
re: #364 wheat-dogg
TBH, she’d be better off divorcing the shlub now than waiting until he kicks the bucket.
And making a zillion dollars off a tell-all.
re: #378 Stanley Sea
And making a zillion dollars off a tell-all.
Trump would have ICE kick her out of the country for immigration violations when she was a model.
SCOOP: Senate won’t confirm Trump’s DoD nominees until McCain gets Iraq and Afghanistan details via @reporterjoe https://t.co/I6GMHNZ3qq
— Joe Gould (@reporterjoe) October 3, 2017
re: #337 wheat-dogg
I’m wondering what Melania is thinking as she sits next to this babbling baboon.
More fried chicken, then soon.
“In many ways a miracle?” Okay, I don’t use this much:
WTF???
His mind is not just seemingly unmoored from reality, it appears to have sunk at the dock.
I really don’t get the GOP: They can have everything they want with Mike Pence. He’s about as conservative and as theocratic as they come, understands the government process including moving bills through the system, and is well-liked by much of their caucus.
Why is the GOP hanging on to Trump in this condition? Are they that afraid of his supporters? Are they that cowardly and craven?
re: #343 CongoJack
Doesn’t the F-35 also have a pilot issue where oxygen wouldn’t reach the pilot and they would pass out during flight? If memory serves President BO tried to kill the F-35 because it was a money pit but Boehner didn’t allow it through congress because the engine was made in his district.
Fuck Boehner - he created this and he is likely to get a walk on it all.
That was the F-22.
Wow. Just saw this via a friend’s FB page (emphasis mine):
“Sorry America. Your 2nd amendment is killing you, and your gun toting culture is pathetic. It’s incredible that your “President” posts a ban on visitors from other countries. More Americans have died at the hands of its own people than any terrorist.
Do what you do best. Point the finger at other countries, and point the gun at yourself. The 2nd Amendment may as well be called the Suicide Amendment.”
Nail, head, hit.
re: #352 Sir John Barron
Can’t wait to see the Melania vs Ivanka/Junior/Eric court feuds.
Hey don’t forget Barron and Tiffany
re: #364 wheat-dogg
TBH, she’d be better off divorcing the shlub now than waiting until he kicks the bucket.
I would bet that her pre-nup stipulates that only he is allowed to initiate divorce proceedings but she can’t.
re: #382 Anymouse 🌹
I think they’re genuinely afraid of Trump’s MAGAtards. If they move to impeach and remove him from office, they’re finished politically - at least, that’s their thinking.
re: #385 danarchy
Hey don’t forget Barron and Tiffany
And Ivana and Marla. They’ll have their snouts in the trough as well.
re: #386 The Vicious Babushka
I would bet that her pre-nup stipulates that only he is allowed to initiate divorce proceedings but she can’t.
How very wahhabi-like
Remember the day after 9/11, when politicians told us “Now isn’t the time to talk about terrorism”? Yeah, I don’t either. #LasVagasShooting pic.twitter.com/NU9un49Cni
— Mrs. Betty Bowers (@BettyBowers) October 3, 2017
re: #382 Anymouse 🌹
“In many ways a miracle?” Okay, I don’t use this much:
WTF???
His mind is not just seemingly unmoored from reality, it appears to have sunk at the dock.
I really don’t get the GOP: They can have everything they want with Mike Pence. He’s about as conservative and as theocratic as they come, understands the government process including moving bills through the system, and is well-liked by much of their caucus.
Why is the GOP hanging on to Trump in this condition? Are they that afraid of his supporters? Are they that cowardly and craven?
Trump is much more popular with the GOP Base than they are. If they removed him, it could blow up the GOP.
re: #378 Stanley Sea
And making a zillion dollars off a tell-all.
Nope, she signed a NDA for all eternity.
re: #391 Backwoods_Sleuth
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No we did the total opposite. And we took means to prevent hijackings from happening again. But somehow we can’t do that with guns because we got too many damn people in this country who worship the damn things.
Bryan Fischer says the problem at the heart of the Las Vegas shooting is that not enough people had guns. https://t.co/3mgLGP6F4u
— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) October 3, 2017
I’m seeing a lot of flags flying at half mast today.
I honestly think they should be flying upside down because we are, at this moment, most definitely a nation in distress.
House GOP wants Medicare cuts in exchange for restoring health insurance for 9 million children >> https://t.co/tmmT4sroYb via @TPM
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) October 3, 2017
re: #386 The Vicious Babushka
I would bet that her pre-nup stipulates that only he is allowed to initiate divorce proceedings but she can’t.
I’m not sure that would be legal. US law states such an agreement cannot be unconscionable (signing away your rights would qualify under that), and must be executed by both parties (not their attorneys).
Even if everything is fine with a pre-nuptial aggrement, a court can set it aside for any number of reasons.
I suspect if there is some sort of pre-nuptial agreement there, it would still be a crapfest in court (maybe a bigger one).
On the other hand, a lot of both Mrs. Trump’s and the GOP’s problems might be solved by Mr. Trump’s less-than-healthy eating habits and such.
.@potus not ready to address gun control head-on right now: “We’ll be talking about gun laws as time goes by,” he said as he left for PR
— Elizabeth Landers (@ElizLanders) October 3, 2017
No rush. There’s only a mass shooting almost every day in the U.S. https://t.co/1b4EhMzgaQ
— Helen Ubiñas (@NotesFromHeL) October 3, 2017
re: #376 nines09
Hello all.
I always considered Tom to be a class act, and a fantastic songwriter. Him and Mike Campbell complimented each other so well. Masters of understatement.Tom Petty was one of the best rhythm guitarists I ever heard and his leads were spot on.
Here’s a video with Howie Epstein and David Grohl on drums that IMHO sums up the power this band had. From Wildflowers, which I think is one of his best works.
Video is tilted so it can get around copyright (says poster).
This is a band taking the stage completely over and strutting.
They kill it.
My old band did a cover of this and I loved to play it.
It’s just rock and roll.
One more gone.
Like a newborn baby it just happens every day.
Damn it.
Great clip, Nines.
TP actually asked Grohl to join the Heartbreakers after Kurt died. Dave had other plans, but Steve Ferrone stepped in and became as much a Heartbreaker as Stan Lynch (my first choice for HB drummer, but you can’t have everything.
And the Heartbreakers as a band completely understood the concept of restraint - when to use it and when to toss it off, like in that clip.
I’ll miss the man, and I’ll miss the band. Irreplaceable.
re: #389 Skip Intro
And Ivana and Marla. They’ll have their snouts in the trough as well.
I think it would be pretty hard for either of them to make a legitimate claim at this point. They have been divorced for a long time and already have their settlements. Doesn’t mean they wouldn’t try, but their best bet is to hope their kids are generous.
re: #13 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸
for me no loss of a musician has ever hurt as much as john lennon getting shot in 1980
All gods curse Mark David Chapman.
re: #397 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Family values and pro-life party still at work.
Holding nine million children hostage is a death cult.
re: #364 wheat-dogg
TBH, she’d be better off divorcing the shlub now than waiting until he kicks the bucket.
I wonder how much she could charge for an NDA…
re: #400 makeitstop
Great clip, Nines.
TP actually asked Grohl to join the Heartbreakers after Kurt died. Dave had other plans, but Steve Ferrone stepped in and became as much a Heartbreaker as Stan Lynch (my first choice for HB drummer, but you can’t have everything.
And the Heartbreakers as a band completely understood the concept of restraint - when to use it and when to toss it off, like in that clip.
I’ll miss the man, and I’ll miss the band. Irreplaceable.
The first time I heard “Breakdown” in high school I flipped. That cool, sly opening and then the build-up to chorus, the harmonies—all of it in one song. Far from the only one on that album, but I was hooked from the first guitar part.
re: #395 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Yeah Bryan. Because people should have guns at concerts and can shoot 33 floors up. Just shut the fuck up for once.
The weapon with the bump stock also has a Surefire 100rd magazine in it
EXCLUSIVE: 2 of the 23 guns found in #LasVegas suspect’s Mandalay Bay hotel room. Photos obtained by @JacquiHeinrich https://t.co/PX0w8X167U pic.twitter.com/wwnc8MWdPO
— Boston 25 News (@boston25) October 3, 2017
The one on the left has a bump fire stock on it. It’s a device that accelerates semi-automatic firing. https://t.co/8qmjMPEnl8
— Stephen Gutowski (@StephenGutowski) October 3, 2017
re: #382 Anymouse 🌹
Trump is necessary to appease the populist, paranoid part of the base who don’t actually have policy goals, and need to be constantly stimulated with outrage and trolling.
After cultivating this trend for decades, they’re now dependent on this group, and Trump is better at manipulating the former than they are. Trump has one card to play—blow up the GOP coalition—but it’s a big one.
Not that they’re actually winning by maintaining this arrangement. The “sensible” plutocrat types are being marginalized in favor of more aggressive hucksterism and even the occasional sincere reactionary demagogue.
re: #407 FormerDirtDart
The weapon with the bump stock also has a Surefire 100rd magazine in it
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Now can someone tell me please why a civilian should be able to own these let alone 23 of them? Bullshit that nothing could have stopped this. Sensible gun laws would have.
Thanks for including me in the book @dog_rates. Look how much I’ve grown up! pic.twitter.com/miZiCZuvVS
— Dachshund Genevieve (@DachsGenevieve) September 11, 2017
OMG GENEVIEVE YOUR SNOOT HAS ELONGATED https://t.co/UJ8sYYCM58
— BOOK DAY 🐶 (@dog_rates) October 3, 2017
Meet Maia. She’s incredibly deadly. Will rip your whole h*ckin arm off. Always feels guilty afterwards tho. 12/10 would forgive immediately pic.twitter.com/sNV47IoNHV
— BOOK DAY 🐶 (@dog_rates) October 1, 2017
re: #408 The Ghost of a Flea
Trump is necessary to appease the populist, paranoid part of the base who don’t actually have policy goals, and need to be constantly stimulated with outrage and trolling.
After cultivating this trend for decades, they’re now dependent on this group, and Trump is better at manipulating the former than they are. Trump has one card to play—blow up the GOP coalition—but it’s a big one.
Not that they’re actually winning by maintaining this arrangement. The “sensible” plutocrat types are being marginalized in favor of more aggressive hucksterism and even the occasional sincere reactionary demagogue.
One wonders how much the GOP’s big donors are going to put up with this (I understand the Kochs and a number of Texas high-dollar donors have had enough). They don’t get their tax cuts and business considerations when the GOP constantly focuses on religious and social issues.
I can see them saying “How bout it Libertarians?” David Koch ran as a Libertarian VP candidate… .
re: #407 FormerDirtDart
The weapon with the bump stock also has a Surefire 100rd magazine in it
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Bump stocks are legal right?
They should just start there.
re: #395 Backwoods_Sleuth
Completely contradicted by people at the scene. And no telling how many people in the hotel would have been injured or died had people used their weapons, and then how many people would have been killed by police thinking they’re the shooter.
re: #405 Barefoot Grin
The first time I heard “Breakdown” in high school I flipped. That cool, sly opening and then the build-up to chorus, the harmonies—all of it in one song. Far from the only one on that album, but I was hooked from the first guitar part.
I’ve been hearing a live version where he sneaks in a chorus from ‘Hit the Road, Jack.’
They also had a respect and knowledge of - and reverence for - the great music that came before them. More rare than ever nowadays.
Oh my God, from someone I thought was level headed:
Him: No matter how you regulate guns, you can never stop a lone wolf attack of any kind. It’s a tragedy. Bad shit happens everyday. This shouldn’t be dismissed, but you can’t just say oh guns is to blame. Was a pressure cooker responsible for the Boston bombings?
Me: Guns are specifically designed to kill.
Him: So are bombs and there are many house hold items one can use to make one.
Trump also tells Puerto Rico: “You can be very proud, only 16 [deaths] versus thousands in Katrina…”
— Sabrina Siddiqui (@SabrinaSiddiqui) October 3, 2017
Death toll in Puerto Rico hasn’t been updated for a week & is being reported as at least 60 at this point. It’s nothing to be “proud” about. https://t.co/X5aChftGIy
— Scott Dworkin (@funder) October 3, 2017
re: #409 HappyWarrior
Now can someone tell me please why a civilian should be able to own these let alone 23 of them? Bullshit that nothing could have stopped this. Sensible gun laws would have.
If the Sandy Hook Massacre didn’t change anyone’s minds, nothing will.
As horrific as it might’ve been to do, perhaps the authorities should’ve released uncensored crime scene photos. That might jolt a few consciences. Just like how Emmett Till’s mother insisted on an open-casket funeral service and let the press take photos. She wanted to show the world what had been done to her son.
Or more likely than not it would send the wingnuts and the gun fanatics into an absolute meltdown…..not that they’d be horrified, mind you, but only because they’d know how damaging such photos would be to them.
Maybe his bank account hit zero
NBC’s Pete Williams: Week before Vegas attack, Stephen Paddock wired $100k to an account in Philippines, thats where his girlfriend is from
— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) October 3, 2017
Per Pete Williams: In the last two weeks, Paddock conducted sixteen transactions of $10,000 or more with casinos https://t.co/rxNaFkagNe
— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) October 3, 2017
re: #418 electrotek
Oh my God, from someone I thought was level headed:
Did they pull out the hoary “cars can be used in attacks too!” talking point as well?
re: #418 electrotek
Oh my God, from someone I thought was level headed:
But we don’t make it easy to make a bomb. And if someone did, and authorities found out about it, they would be arrested BEFORE they could use it.
re: #418 electrotek
Oh my God, from someone I thought was level headed:
I’m a little surprised how quickly the narrative has shifted from “Has to be Illegal Immigrant or Muslim or Antif G-damn the Left” to “What a tragedy, oh well, can’t do anything about it.”
.@realDonaldTrump shook hands w/ San Juan Mayor who told him “it’s not about politics” Trump didn’t answer then pointedly ignored her
— Andrea Mitchell (@mitchellreports) October 3, 2017
re: #418 electrotek
Oh my God, from someone I thought was level headed:
Back to “No matter how you regulate murder or rape, you can never stop murder or rape, therefore we should have no regulations about murder or rape.”
Laws exist to punish anti-social behaviour. Absolutely regulations that are well-considered over guns will punish anti-social behaviour, and over time will change behaviour (in the same manner stiffer drunk drive laws reduced drunken driving).
re: #421 Stanley Sea
Maybe his bank account hit zero
Um…
Guess he wasn’t hurting for money. Maybe he withdrew all his 401k?
re: #414 Anymouse 🌹
One wonders how much the GOP’s big donors are going to put up with this (I understand the Kochs and a number of Texas high-dollar donors have had enough). They don’t get their tax cuts and business considerations when the GOP constantly focuses on religious and social issues.
I can see them saying “How bout it Libertarians?” David Koch ran as a Libertarian VP candidate… .
Apparently the Kochs have closed the funding tap until taxes and insurance are done the way they want.
But there’s a lot of right-wing millionaires that put their emphasis on the social issues and the monetary ones, because they built an entirely new “conservative Christianity” where their venality is pious, but everybody else deserves suffering. Those folks are doubtless doing some kind of cost/benefit analysis, but they seem to be playing a longer, permanently-alter-the-nature-of-the-US-state game.
Pres. Trump in Puerto Rico: “I hate to tell you, Puerto Rico, but you’ve thrown our budget a little out of whack.” https://t.co/TEC3yon6kc pic.twitter.com/GTlZ8z9onF
— ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) October 3, 2017
Only a sociopath would equate the need to make sure people get food, water, & power with the “budget” while GOP pushing for massive tax cuts https://t.co/20fiHjXvnm
— lawhawk (@lawhawk) October 3, 2017
re: #429 lawhawk
He thought he was making a clever joke.
re: #429 lawhawk
[Pres. Trump in Puerto Rico: “I hate to tell you, Puerto Rico, but you’ve thrown our budget a little out of whack.”]
Some say life is priceless, but Trump needs a bottom line figure.
re: #422 TedStriker
Did they pull out the hoary “cars can be used in attacks too!” talking point as well?
Someone else did in another post of mine last night.
I’ve brought out the gun lovers to a frenzy with my FB posts lol
ISIS claims he was a recent convert. Why do I feel like our media is going to do ANYTHING it can to disprove this?
— Curt Schilling (@gehrig38) October 3, 2017
Because ISIS is not a reliable source? https://t.co/GhW5mbI5bq
— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) October 3, 2017
re: #427 Sir John Barron
Um…
Guess he wasn’t hurting for money. Maybe he withdrew all his 401k?
Supposedly he was a multimillionaire from real estate. Of course he could have pissed that all away in the casinos, I suspect we will learn that in the next few days.
re: #400 makeitstop
Great clip, Nines.
TP actually asked Grohl to join the Heartbreakers after Kurt died. Dave had other plans, but Steve Ferrone stepped in and became as much a Heartbreaker as Stan Lynch (my first choice for HB drummer, but you can’t have everything.
And the Heartbreakers as a band completely understood the concept of restraint - when to use it and when to toss it off, like in that clip.
I’ll miss the man, and I’ll miss the band. Irreplaceable.
Yes, I know. It almost seem surreal that I post about a loss like Tom, when there is so much pain coming from a night in Vegas.
Music is my refuge, and I’ve not had the opportunity to do it as much as I would like to, but such is life. That band understood dynamics. The hardest thing for some people is to leave space. I’ve played with so many guitarists who have no conception of a cymbal crash hanging in the air by itself for a split second. Too many notes. No air.
“I can jam 6 notes in that space” is not a prerequisite to “good”. Mike has that restraint and so did Tom.
re: #430 Eclectic Cyborg
He thought he was making a clever joke.
Trump’s a funny guy. Sour puss Leftards can’t take a joke.
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This morn Prez & I signed a Proclamation “Recognizing the Second Monday of October as Indigenous Peoples’ Day”. God bless the Navajo Nation. pic.twitter.com/vbDDuN2m4u
— Jonathan M. Nez (@VPNez) October 2, 2017
His response:
Pull up that old anarchy cookbook and you’ll see how easy it is. In order to obtain full security, we would have to give up a majority of our rights and liberties.
I’m being civil with him because normally we see eye to eye on a lot of things, so I’m surprised he’s taking this position on guns.
re: #433 bratwurst
Someone should check Schilling for CTE. Seems he’s taken one too many shots to the head thinking that every right wing CT is legit… or he’s just asking the questions.
Weird. States w/ the most guns also have the highest rates of gun violence, and most are Republican-controlled Red States. #TuesdayThoughts pic.twitter.com/hQwmaofmzH
— The Baxter Bean (@TheBaxterBean) October 3, 2017
re: #433 bratwurst
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ISIS would claim you were a recent convert if they knew it could get idiots like you scared.
re: #439 lawhawk
Someone should check Schilling for CTE. Seems he’s taken one too many shots to the head thinking that every right wing CT is legit… or he’s just asking the questions.
Nah, he’s just stupid. Plenty of pitchers out there who are much more intelligent than he is. Sean Doolittle for one.
re: #438 electrotek
And yet we still make it illegal, and guess what, people don’t for that reason.
re: #438 electrotek
His response:
I’m being civil with him because normally we see eye to eye on a lot of things, so I’m surprised he’s taking this position on guns.
But if the shooter was Muslim?
Ah, then, ban all Muslims. Shut down their mosques, etc.
re: #437 wrenchwench
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I’m going to celebrate it as such and I really wish we would as a nation too. So many great indigenous nations lived here for generations before we did. They should be celebrated and remembered.
re: #444 Sir John Barron
But if the shooter was Muslim?
Ah, then, ban all Muslims. Shut down their mosques, etc.
Illegal immigrant? Deport all IIs even kids!
re: #438 electrotek
His response:
I’m being civil with him because normally we see eye to eye on a lot of things, so I’m surprised he’s taking this position on guns.
Not easy. You actually have to go buy and assemble all the stuff and hope it works (or eff yourself up testing it).
Guns are easy. Just buy and load.
re: #438 electrotek
His response:
I’m being civil with him because normally we see eye to eye on a lot of things, so I’m surprised he’s taking this position on guns.
From that map of gun violence above, it would appear that New York, Massachusetts, Minnesota, and Nebraska are hellholes with no civil rights.
re: #438 electrotek
His response:
I’m being civil with him because normally we see eye to eye on a lot of things, so I’m surprised he’s taking this position on guns.
And how many did that Boston Marathon bomb kill? Horrific as it was. Less than 59 I’m pretty sure.
re: #438 electrotek
His response:
I’m being civil with him because normally we see eye to eye on a lot of things, so I’m surprised he’s taking this position on guns.
I see he’s gone absolutist. “I’m a little warm, let’s sleep in the freezer tonight.”
re: #405 Barefoot Grin
I was in a low rent motel room in Niagara Falls NY in a snowstorm late January or early February 1977 I think, when I heard Breakdown for the first time.
Understatement at it’s finest.
We have plenty of civil liberties with restrictions. I can’t libel even though I can protest the government. I can own a gun without owning an automatic or semi-automatic weapon. I can drive my car but I can’t drive a gocart on the highway.
re: #453 Belafon
We have plenty of civil liberties with restrictions. I can’t libel even though I can protest the government. I can own a gun without owning an automatic or semi-automatic weapon. I can drive my car but I can’t drive a gocart on the highway.
Exactly.
re: #453 Belafon
We have plenty of civil liberties with restrictions. I can’t libel even though I can protest the government. I can own a gun without owning an automatic or semi-automatic weapon. I can drive my car but I can’t drive a gocart on the highway.
You can ride a bicycle on the Interstate in Wyoming, at least in areas where I-80 covered over the only two-lane road because of bluffs and narrow mountain passes.
Here you can in the furthest west part of the state (along with agricultural equipment, and four-wheelers).
I have a right to trial by jury but prosecution can object to certain jurors too. Sensible gun legislation isn’t going to cause us to lose our rights.
re: #456 Anymouse 🌹
You can ride a bicycle on the Interstate in Wyoming, at least in areas where I-80 covered over the only two-lane road because of bluffs and narrow mountain passes.
Here you can in the furthest west part of the state (along with agricultural equipment, and four-wheelers).
You can use a pogo stick on the freeway in Oregon, except in the urban areas, where use is limited to automobiles and trucks. All other places are open to the public to use as they see fit.
re: #457 HappyWarrior
I have a right to trial by jury but prosecution can object to certain jurors too. Sensible gun legislation isn’t going to cause us to lose our rights.
That goes back to Jim Wright’s suggestion on his blog to move the conversation forward: Enact the NRA’s own safety rules as laws with penalties. Make the NRA support their own safety rules or repudiate them.
re: #456 Anymouse 🌹
On a good portion of the DFW area, you can’t ride anything on a highway that can’t get up to at least 55, and really, it had better be able to get up to 70.
re: #406 HappyWarrior
Yeah Bryan. Because people should have guns at concerts and can shoot 33 floors up. Just shut the fuck up for once.
He was fantasizing about another hotel guest breaking into Poddack’s room and shooting him.
re: #449 Sir John Barron
And how many did that Boston Marathon bomb kill? Horrific as it was. Less than 59 I’m pretty sure.
3 dead, 264 injured.
(although, having a dozen ambulances and 100 medical personnel within 100 yards when it happened, and multiple top-notch trauma centers within 3 miles… if it had happened anywhere else, the death toll would have been in the dozens.)
re: #458 wrenchwench
You can use a pogo stick on the freeway in Oregon, except in the urban areas, where use is limited to automobiles and trucks. All other places are open to the public to use as they see fit.
LOL, in a heavy rush hour, a pogo stick might be faster.
re: #459 Anymouse 🌹
That goes back to Jim Wright’s suggestion on his blog to move the conversation forward: Enact the NRA’s own safety rules as laws with penalties. Make the NRA support their own safety rules or repudiate them.
The NRA would repudiate them in the blink of an eye. They’ve been Second Amendment extremists for quite some time now, ever since the 1977 convention putsch.
re: #461 Big Beautiful Door
He was fantasizing about another hotel guest breaking into Poddack’s room and shooting him.
Christ. This isn’t a fucking “Taken” movie. Real life doesn’t work like that.
re: #463 Anymouse 🌹
LOL, in a heavy rush hour, a pogo stick might be faster.
Ain’t no heavy rush hours where a pogo stick can be used. Not even at milking time.
Firefighters’ union says 12 of its members were shot while attending to Las Vegas victims, two while performing CPR #WFTV pic.twitter.com/WlHdCu82Fg
— Michael Lopardi (@MLopardiWFTV) October 3, 2017
Ethics watchdog claims Haley violated federal law by retweeting Trump endorsement https://t.co/ginhYtpasq pic.twitter.com/JVtGvHESVp
— The Hill (@thehill) October 3, 2017
re: Tom Petty
The second concert I ever went to in my life was when my now ex-stepsister let me tag along with her and her friends, since they had an extra ticket for Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers and Bob Dylan at Astroworld in Houston in 1986. I was 13, and instantly became a fan of both Petty and Dylan. I wore the T-shirt from that show until it faded.
I saw Petty several more times on my own after that. He always put on a great show. Very, very underrated artist. This is my favorite song of his:
re: #395 Backwoods_Sleuth
Bryan Fischer says the problem at the heart of the Las Vegas shooting is that not enough people had guns. rightwingwatch.org
— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) October 3, 2017
Yes, because hundreds, or even thousands, of people returning fire into a hotel high rise is a sound tactical response.
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re: #465 Eclectic Cyborg
Christ. This isn’t a fucking “Taken” movie. Real life doesn’t work like that.
Ammosexuals all seem to think they are Rambo.
re: #418 electrotek
Oh my God, from someone I thought was level headed:
True, but you can’t buy bombs ready-made in a store. A gun is a ready-to-wear death-weapon.
re: #473 wheat-dogg
True, but you can’t buy bombs ready-made in a store. A gun is a ready-to-wear death-weapon.
Well, you could use a pistol as a really expensive paperweight.
re: #454 Shropshire Slasher
I believe you have to have a trial first.
Are the cowards that are offered a pardon going to risk a trial? They are all cowards. They work for Trump and have never spoken out.
re: #461 Big Beautiful Door
He was fantasizing about another hotel guest breaking into Poddack’s room and shooting him.
That’s so idiotic.
re: #473 wheat-dogg
True, but you can’t buy bombs ready-made in a store. A gun is a ready-to-wear death-weapon.
Not only that, but making a bomb is no easy task. Plenty of would-be anarchists, terrorists, jihadists and assorted irritable psychopaths have blown themselves to kingdom come over the years.
I would argue it takes far more skill to make a functioning bomb then it does to learn the basics of using a firearm.
re: #477 Dr Lizardo
Not only that, but making a bomb is no easy task. Plenty of would-be anarchists, terrorists, jihadists and assorted irritable psychopaths have blown themselves to kingdom come over the years.
I would argue it takes far more skill to make a functioning bomb then it does to learn the basics of using a firearm.
Agree.
News alerts in 2017. pic.twitter.com/mQIgta4bRn
— Marina Fang (@marinafang) October 3, 2017
Trump visiting hurricane victims in #PuertoRico - asks them about living thru the storm. “Have a good time. Great to see you.”
— Harriet Alexander (@h_alexander) October 3, 2017
re: #477 Dr Lizardo
Not only that, but making a bomb is no easy task. Plenty of would-be anarchists, terrorists, jihadists and assorted irritable psychopaths have blown themselves to kingdom come over the years.
I would argue it takes far more skill to make a functioning bomb then it does to learn the basics of using a firearm.
Especially when using a gun is just “load, point, and squeeze”.
re: #477 Dr Lizardo
Not only that, but making a bomb is no easy task. Plenty of would-be anarchists, terrorists, jihadists and assorted irritable psychopaths have blown themselves to kingdom come over the years.
I would argue it takes far more skill to make a functioning bomb then it does to learn the basics of using a firearm.
Plus, after the Oklahoma City bombing, the government moved to restrict the components used (fertilizer) to tiny quantities for gardeners, and licenses for dealers and farmers.
It would be very difficult to amass the amount of fertilizer used in that bombing unless you had a license (in which case your purchases and sales can be tracked).
re: #475 I Would Prefer Not To
Are the cowards that are offered a pardon going to risk a trial? They are all cowards. They work for Trump and have never spoken out.
Relevant thread:
MINI-THREAD: What does it mean that Mueller is researching preemptive pardons?
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) October 3, 2017
Trump probably doesn’t realize the GOP was in power during Katrina too.
re: #479 Kragar
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“Have a good time, great to see you.”
Basically, he’s just welcoming them to Mar-a-lago in the middle of a disaster zone.
re: #480 TedStriker
Especially when using a gun is just “load, point, and squeeze”.
Some people skip the second step.
re: #484 Eclectic Cyborg
Trump probably doesn’t realize the GOP was in power during Katrina too.
See, the GOP is improving.
re: #479 Kragar
I’m running out of words to describe how much I despise Trump.
re: #484 Eclectic Cyborg
Trump probably doesn’t realize the GOP was in power during Katrina too.
Or if he does, doesn’t see it as a reflection on him.
Happy 25th anniversary @barackobama. A quarter of a century later, you’re still my best friend & the most extraordinary man I know. I 💕 you. pic.twitter.com/y0nevQmatB
— Michelle Obama (@MichelleObama) October 3, 2017
‘Goodfellas’ Actor Chuck Low Dead at 89 https://t.co/nzpOgaLVcB
— TMZ (@TMZ) October 3, 2017
re: #477 Dr Lizardo
Back in School of Infantry, we spent a couple of days learning the basics of handling explosives, setting fuses and prepping demolition charges. Then they would have each of us prep a fuse, and take us out in teams of 4 to the demo pits to set our charges, then wait for the command to ignite the fuse and run to the shelter.
“1 PULL! 2 PULL! 3 PULL! 4 How you doing today? Nervous? You think those other guys set their charges properly? PULL!”
re: #479 Kragar
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The official Puerto Rico death toll is outdated since the Island is currently so dysfunctional death certificates aren’t getting issued. The actual death toll is likely much higher.
re: #494 Big Beautiful Door
The official Puerto Rico death toll is outdated since the Island is currently so dysfunctional death certificates aren’t getting issued. The actual death toll is likely much higher.
There may still be people in rural areas who have not yet been found, too.
re: #494 Big Beautiful Door
The official Puerto Rico death toll is outdated since the Island is currently so dysfunctional death certificates aren’t getting issued. The actual death toll is likely much higher.
Which is why Trump should shut the fuck up about the death toll. Not to mention every death being tragic.I’m sure thoes who lost family and friends in PR don’t care about the numbers. Trump is a monster.
re: #449 Sir John Barron
And how many did that Boston Marathon bomb kill? Horrific as it was. Less than 59 I’m pretty sure.
3 killed ~265 injured from what I can find
Meow Meow Meow Meow Meow Meow Meow Meow Meow Meow
— Astronaut Katze (@AstronautKatze) October 3, 2017
Muuuuh’ Muuuuh’ Muuuuh’ Muuuuh’ Muuuuh’ Muuuuh’ Muuuuh’ Muuuuh’ Muuuuh’
— Un Buey (@UnBuey) October 3, 2017
re: #471 Big Beautiful Door
Ammosexuals all seem to think they are Rambo.
When in reality most of them are Roundo.
re: #493 Kragar
Back in School of Infantry, we spent a couple of days learning the basics of handling explosives, setting fuses and prepping demolition charges. Then they would have each of us prep a fuse, and take us out in teams of 4 to the demo pits to set our charges, then wait for the command to ignite the fuse and run to the shelter.
“1 PULL! 2 PULL! 3 PULL! 4 How you doing today? Nervous? You think those other guys set their charges properly? PULL!”
A firearm is far easier to use than a bomb - making a bomb has a good many perils of its own. There’s all manner of cases and incidents out there where amateur bomb-makers have killed or permanently maimed themselves…..and sometimes anyone else unlucky enough to be in their proximity.
I learned the basics of firearms use from my father by the time I was eleven - and even that was after some very stringent gun safety instruction, a couple of years worth. To this day, I’m very cautious around any firearm. “Always assume a gun is loaded. That’s rule number one.”
WTF
trump throwing rolls of paper towels into the crowd at chapel. “A lot of love in this room,” he says pic.twitter.com/Q2wDEsYWfQ
— Justin Sink (@justinsink) October 3, 2017
NEW RECORD. Donald Trump made *40* false claims last week, the most of his presidency: https://t.co/wVeIljTQud
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) October 3, 2017
Three’s Company! Suzanne Westenhoefer (@szwest1), Jim Ward, and Jody Hamilton (@fromthebunkerjr) in studio. #ComeAndKnockOnOurDoor pic.twitter.com/wvxLKqbWMn
— Stephanie Miller (@StephMillerShow) October 3, 2017
Hugh Hefner died of cardiac arrest while battling E. coli
The 91-year-old Playboy founder’s death certificate, which was obtained by Page Six via The Blast, also revealed he had been battling E. coli and septicemia (blood poisoning) for six days prior to his passing on Sept. 27.
The doc explains that Hef’s infection was “highly resistant to antibiotics.”
Hmmmmm
I have to go out.
Wildflowers is one of the best albums IMHO. I never tire of listening to it This gem is from that masterpiece. Long version.
Fantastic.
From Wiki;
The album features all members of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, with the exception of drummer Stan Lynch. Steve Ferrone plays drums on Wildflowers and would join the band officially the following year. However, the album was not credited to the Heartbreakers because, in Petty’s words, “Rick (Rubin) and I both wanted more freedom than to be strapped into five guys.”[9] Freedom notwithstanding, Petty chose to use most of his regular band as session players, demonstrating his comfort with that format. Rolling Stone placed Wildflowers at number 12 on their list of the best albums of the 1990s.[10] Guitar World placed the album at number 49 in their “Superunknown: 50 Iconic Albums That Defined 1994” list.
Enjoy.
re: #479 Kragar
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“A real catastrophe.” He’s so desperate to regain face after botching the response to PR worse than Dubya screwed the pooch in Katrina that he’s trying to downplay just how bad the damage was to the island. And this is using week-old numbers when most of the gov’t services responsible for reporting and cataloguing deaths are inoperative. But you can be sure that when the final death toll is tallied, he and the braying sheep who follow him will insist that the numbers are “fake” because he was told 16 when he visited.
Joe Scarborough just brought up Chicago.
— Curtis (@CurtisIP1) October 3, 2017
Chicago’s 👏 gun 👏 law 👏 was 👏 overturned 👏 by 👏 the 👏 Supreme 👏 Court 👏 in 👏 2010 👏https://t.co/3jAWsceMmk (@JoeNBC) https://t.co/KiopohtEy7
— The Rude Pundit (@rudepundit) October 3, 2017
re: #511 Anymouse 🌹
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You know there are other cities with more murder and at a higher rate than Chitown but you’d never know it.
re: #513 Dr. Matt
Will always be remembered this way:
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Morrie’s wigs DO come off. RIP. Memorable character in a movie full of em.
re: #512 HappyWarrior
You know there are other cities with more murder and at a higher rate than Chitown but you’d never know it.
Most of them are in conservative states, places where there are more guns than people. (My own state is an outlier red state, one of the ten safest for gun violence.)
The per capita gun homicide rate for Louisiana is many times higher than the Metropolitan Chicago area (roughly the same population between the two).
In cities, Chicago isn’t even in the top ten (#18):
thetrace.org
re: #508 Shropshire Slasher
Hugh Hefner died of cardiac arrest while battling E. coli
Hmmmmm
Geez……sounds like an awful way to go.
re: #514 HappyWarrior
Morrie’s wigs DO come off. RIP. Memorable character in a movie full of em.
Yeah. Great character actor. 2017 continues to be a bitch.
re: #516 Anymouse 🌹
Most of them are in conservative states, places where there are more guns than people. (My own state is an outlier red state, one of the ten safest for gun violence.)
The per capita gun homicide rate for Louisiana is many times higher than the Metropolitan Chicago area (roughly the same population between the two).
In cities, Chicago isn’t even in the top ten (#18):
thetrace.org
Yeah that’s my point. They choose Chicago because it’s a Democratic city in a Dem state that also is home to Obama and HRC.
re: #395 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Jebus Fucking Christmas…the cops waited like an hour before they went in the room. And now a bunch of randos are supposed to break in and “take him out”?
re: #508 Shropshire Slasher
Hugh Hefner died of cardiac arrest while battling E. coli
The 91-year-old Playboy founder’s death certificate, which was obtained by Page Six via The Blast, also revealed he had been battling E. coli and septicemia (blood poisoning) for six days prior to his passing on Sept. 27.
The doc explains that Hef’s infection was “highly resistant to antibiotics.”
Hmmmmm
OK: and also: he was 91 years old: the elderly often succumb to infections over and above any other medical ailments they might incur: and antibiotic-resistant bacteria can (and have) carried off far healthier patients than Hef.
Still a bummer: RIP
re: #488 Lidane
I’m running out of words to describe how much I despise Trump.
Words truly fail for this. Every so often I make feeble efforts to express myself on the subject of that ambulating dungheap in the white house, but it’s always pitifully inadequate.
re: #205 The Vicious Babushka
Yeah, Laura’s a real sicko. It’s time we acted to stop the massacres.
— Jeff Furlington (@FurlingtonJeff) October 3, 2017