An Awesome Version of “Don’t Dream It’s Over” by Crowded House (Live in Auckland, 2010)

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There are quite a few versions of this song on YouTube, and they’re usually great because it’s just a great song, but this one is the best version I’ve ever seen. Watch the whole thing and you’ll see why.

Crowded House performing “Don’t Dream It’s Over” live at the Auckland Town Hall, New Zealand, 8th April 2010.
Song originally on the 1986 album “Crowded House”.
Video directed by Simon Mark-Brown.
© 2010 Crowded House.

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Bubblehead II  Nov 18, 2017 • 5:47:33pm

So has anybody else been upgraded to the new Firefox (57.0)? So far it seems to be faster and LGF doesn’t seem to have any problems with it.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 18, 2017 • 5:48:21pm

re: #1 Bubblehead II

I updated and it’s a huge improvement.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2017 • 5:49:24pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2017 • 5:52:28pm
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Bubblehead II  Nov 18, 2017 • 5:55:14pm

re: #2 The Ghost of a Flea

I updated and it’s a huge improvement.

Yep. From what I understand it’s pretty much a total rewrite. Optimized for multi-core processors. Going to stream a video from the other day that had some serious lag and see if it’s improved.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Nov 18, 2017 • 5:56:13pm

Pence never would have done this…

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Brian J.  Nov 18, 2017 • 5:58:46pm

Three minutes to poll closing in Louisiana. Will we send the Republicans a message that no one is safe? Or will we endorse an inferior candidate because he has the right letter after his name? We’re about to find out.

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Brian J.  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:04:11pm

The first early votes from two parishes are in! One is Jefferson Davis Parish, three guesses how that went. The other is Red River Parish, where Edwards is ahead by one vote.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:04:41pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:07:13pm

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The way he just casually grabs ahold of that thing and tosses it back in its tub with the rat he was trying to feed it… wow. I think I’ll take “NOPE” for $800, Alex.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:08:31pm

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

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lol, I wonder what happened to the guy who used to do that job?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:08:59pm

re: #10 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The way he just casually grabs ahold of that thing and tosses it back in its tub with the rat he was trying to feed it… wow. I think I’ll take “NOPE” for $800, Alex.

I was kinda amused at how he gave that last one head scritches.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:09:19pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not too long ago I had a conversation with a doctor that didn’t go well. Background: We’re replacing the in-house “night doc” with an internet/phone based Telemed system. There will still be a doc on call for a last resort, but for night shift issues, we now call telemed. Short story long, soon to be former night doc is complaining about it. I show him an incident when a new admit came in unstable and the night doc left us a useless note that could just as well be called in from Taiwan. (It was his note and I pretended not to realize it:) This guy proceeded to rail against (diverse - wink wink) people and the you can’t say Indian, black, Chinese anymore. (By this time the nurses’station was jammed at shift change.) I got the last word: With all your education and decades of critical thinking is that all you got? Did you ever hear anybody but a white man complain that you can’t say black or indian? Does it occur to you that a stupid idea of a remote internet based house doc is a better alternative than you?

Man, that felt awesome.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:09:39pm
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Nyet  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:09:53pm

I don’t know why he wouldn’t open it slightly and just toss the rat inside.

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ObserverArt  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:11:20pm

re: #1 Bubblehead II

So has anybody else been upgraded to the new Firefox (57.0)? So far it seems to be faster and LGF doesn’t seem to have any problems with it.

Mine upgraded Thursday morning. Seems okay so far.

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Brian J.  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:11:36pm

Early voting is reporting very quickly this evening. 44 parishes are now in, including East Baton Rouge. The GOoPer Schroder is ahead 2 to 1 overall, and 60 to 40 in Red Stick, not a good sign. Edwards has made progress in the early vote almost everywhere, but usually not enough to overcome his first-round deficit.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:11:49pm

re: #15 Nyet

I don’t know why he wouldn’t open in slightly and just toss the rat inside.

I don’t know why he didn’t just throw the rats in the dumpster and tell everyone he fed the snakes?

//

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:12:12pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:12:14pm

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

I was kinda amused at how he gave that last one head scritches.

Some people like snakes. Some people are terrified of snakes. I’m somewhere in between; I am not a superfriend of snakes, but I can be comfortable around them as long as I know they’re not venomous. The Big Boss’s daughter works for the MN DNR, and she has a few snakes at home that she sometimes brings by our office for visits. They’re pretty cool.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:12:40pm

re: #14 FormerDirtDart

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Ahhhh, a table so full of useless crap that you can’t put anything on it…..I hate those with a passion.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:12:40pm

re: #15 Nyet

I don’t know why he wouldn’t open it slightly and just toss the rat inside.

He did that a couple times. Some snakes insist on food that is live, or at least wiggling. Don’t ask.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:13:02pm

re: #15 Nyet

I don’t know why he wouldn’t open it slightly and just toss the rat inside.

Too high a risk of a snakebite I’d imagine.

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BigPapa  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:13:09pm

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yeah, I just got back from BumFuckNopeistan.

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Nyet  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:13:42pm

re: #23 Eclectic Cyborg

Too high a risk of a snakebite I’d imagine.

Lesser, I would think?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:14:10pm

re: #1 Bubblehead II

So has anybody else been upgraded to the new Firefox (57.0)? So far it seems to be faster and LGF doesn’t seem to have any problems with it.

Moves quicker on my MacBook Air and Mac Mini!

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:17:00pm

re: #15 Nyet

Screw up that maneuver even a little and the snake can strike at your hand, but you can’t see the snake.

Out in the open seems scarier, but the snake has the option to back away, you have the option to back away, and you’ve got the poles to work with. In the crate, the snake is “cornered” and will just strike; also, if it tries to lunge to the rat you’re holding….

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Skip Intro  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:17:26pm

re: #21 bill d. (b.d.)

Ahhhh, a table so full of useless crap that you can’t put anything on it…..I hate those with a passion.

When I first saw that I thought that it was a rejected prototype from Alien.

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BigPapa  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:17:45pm
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bill d. (b.d.)  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:18:12pm

Hoping this is good news?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:20:02pm
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Brian J.  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:20:37pm

57 parishes in, but nothing yet from Orleans. Edwards is down by just over 2 to 1, or about 23,000 votes. No real clues on how Election Day turnout went. Almost all the other big parishes have their early votes in, which is unusual here.

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BigPapa  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:20:51pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:20:59pm

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

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No Way In H-E-DOUBLE-L would I do that!

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Nyet  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:23:51pm
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Brian J.  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:26:01pm

In other action, Rob Maness, former loser Tea Party Senate candidate, is still a loser; he trails 59-41 in a special election to replace Schroder in the State House if Schroder wins the Treasurer’s race. So far, that looks likely, although the margin really is in “it coulda bin woise” territory.

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BeachDem  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:26:20pm

re: #21 bill d. (b.d.)

Ahhhh, a table so full of useless crap that you can’t put anything on it…..I hate those with a passion.

It isn’t even a table—it’s a kitchen island—talk about your cheap photo shoot.

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BigPapa  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:26:33pm

Obviously the lady has never had a proper Beef Wellington. For shame.

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ObserverArt  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:26:43pm

re: #4 teleskiguy

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Saw that posted here the other day. Is there any explanation out there on the ‘net as to what happened with the SUV? Did someone think they could stick that landing like the skater?

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Brian J.  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:30:48pm

To let you know how bad things are in some of northern Louisiana, early voters in Bossier Parish voted for Schroder 84-16… and that was a six-point gain for Edwards, which is a bit below average so far.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:31:04pm
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Bubblehead II  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:31:32pm

re: #30 bill d. (b.d.)

Hoping this is good news?

it’s been four days since last contact. It isn’t looking good.

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Belafon  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:36:01pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

“We should hold ourselves to a higher standard.”
“And what happens if someone fails to meet that standard?”
“We should keep looking.”
“And what if no one meets that standard?”
“We’ll find someone. That way we’re sure no one gets hurt.”
“What if people are getting hurt while we’re searching for the perfect person?”

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:36:12pm

When I was a kid I was occasionally around Nath Kabelia—aka jogis. They’re a gypsy group that handle snakes: they do they “snake charmer” routine with the cobra rising out of the basket, but they also catch snakes for homeowners and cadge together charms and blessings that repel snakes and snakebites.

The moment they were the most nervous and delicate was cracking open the cobra baskets, because it was when they had the least control of the snake but their hands were closest to it. Even though they damaged the fangs of the cobras used for shows, you could still get poisoned bad enough to merit hospitialization.

Note: they 100% did not believe in their own reputation as having supernatural snake mojo.

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Brian J.  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:38:24pm

New Orleans’ early voters just came in and voted for Edwards 84-16, far above expectations! That by itself cut Schroder’s statewide lead almost in half.

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Belafon  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:38:25pm

re: #44 The Ghost of a Flea

When I was a kid I was occasionally around Nath Kabelia—aka jogis. They’re a gypsy group that handle snakes: they do they “snake charmer” routine with the cobra rising out of the basket, but they also catch snakes for homeowners and cadge together charms and blessings that repel snakes and snakebites.

The moment they were the most nervous and delicate was cracking open the cobra baskets, because it was when they had the least control of the snake but their hands were closest to it. Even though they damaged the fangs of the cobras used for shows, you could still get poisoned bad enough to merit hospitialization.

Note: they 100% did not believe in their own reputation as having supernatural snake mojo.

Which is why you don’t let the true believers run the show. One of many lessons Republicans failed to remember.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:39:45pm

re: #15 Nyet

I don’t know why he wouldn’t open it slightly and just toss the rat inside.

I think they want to stimulate the snake into striking at it so the feeding response kicks in. Otherwise a cold dead rat in the dark next to the snake might not register as “food.”

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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:41:37pm
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BigPapa  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:42:49pm

re: #47 goddamnedfrank

I think they want to stimulate the snake into striking at it so the feeding response kicks in. Otherwise a cold dead rat in the dark next to the snake might not register as “food.”

So what you’re saying is you need to smack the snake in the mouth to make it hungry?
Snake issues, man.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:43:59pm
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Brian J.  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:48:16pm

Edwards is down by 24,000 votes with every parish’s early vote in but one, and a quarter of the Election Day vote (no Election Day votes from New Orleans). Honestly, not bad, but to actually win, he’ll need a massive lift from the Crescent City. He just might get it.

Speaking of New Orleans, LaToya Cantrell has a 3,000 vote lead over Desiree Charbonnet for the mayor’s office. The winner will be New Orleans’ first woman mayor in 300 years.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:52:22pm
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Ace Rothstein  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:52:30pm
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Kilroy was here  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:53:45pm

Cracked doing better news than most networks
(not including Fox which isn’t really news)

President Trump’s Successful Year of Rebranding The Swamp - Some News

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calochortus  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:53:48pm

re: #21 bill d. (b.d.)

Ahhhh, a table so full of useless crap that you can’t put anything on it…..I hate those with a passion.

I intend to decorate my Thanksgiving table with a linen tablecloth, my Mom’s Wedgwood china, a couple candles and a whole bunch of tasty food. The decorations around the perimeter of the table will be various family members.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:55:23pm

re: #55 calochortus

I intend to decorate my Thanksgiving table with a linen tablecloth, my Mom’s Wedgwood china, a couple candles and a whole bunch of tasty food. The decorations around the perimeter of the table will be various family members.

The decorations on our Thanksgiving tables will be plates piled high with food taken from the potluck buffet on the kitchen counter. We’ve never really been much for ceremony, preferring instead to focus on the fact that it’s one of the few times Mrs. Fish’s full extended family can gather in peace.

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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:56:25pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:57:22pm

re: #57 teleskiguy

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How many tickets did it cost the pup for those rides?

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calochortus  Nov 18, 2017 • 6:59:48pm

re: #56 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

The decorations on our Thanksgiving tables will be plates piled high with food taken from the potluck buffet on the kitchen counter. We’ve never really been much for ceremony, preferring instead to focus on the fact that it’s one of the few times Mrs. Fish’s full extended family can gather in peace.

Sounds lovely. I’ve scaled back on Xmas Eve dinner-I no longer haul out the Wedgwood (that has to be washed by hand) or the damask linen (that is a pain to iron) for that. I just use the everyday china and a bright tablecloth and lots of good food and friends and family.
That last bit is always the important part.

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Belafon  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:00:41pm

re: #59 calochortus

Sounds lovely. I’ve scaled back on Xmas Eve dinner-I no longer haul out the Wedgwood (that has to be washed by hand) or the damask linen (that is a pain to iron) for that. I just use the everyday china and a bright tablecloth and lots of good food and friends and family.
That last bit is always the important part.

I’ve changed the Christmas tradition. It’s now steak. Turkey is for Thanksgiving.

Edit: Not quite the same thing as what you’re describing, but it’s reduced leftovers and dishes.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:01:49pm
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calochortus  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:02:18pm

re: #60 Belafon

I’ve changed the Christmas tradition. It’s now steak. Turkey is for Thanksgiving.

That’s what we usually do. I’ve switched from standing rib roast to sear-roasted ribeye steaks. I find it easier to get them done right and on the table reliably.

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BeachDem  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:02:54pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

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And if we let them force Franken out of the Senate, it is over.

It will be open season on every Democrat in congress. If they can pick off their Fox News bete noir, nobody is safe. (Think how steamed they are that O’Reilly, one of Franken’s earliest targets, is gone—and think of the glee in their dark hearts if they can make Franken go away.)

Fuck. That. Shit.

Sorry/not sorry, but I’m going to say it—what Franken did (IF, in fact, he did what she says he did) is gross and idiotic, but it does not rise to a level, in my mind anyway, to make him leave the Senate.

My formative years were spent in a time when “date rape” was not a recognized thing. Back then, if you got “date raped,” it was because you exercised poor judgement/got too drunk. Yeah, I still remember being pinned down in some asshole’s bed and waiting for him to pass out so I could climb out the window and walk home barefoot. Do I want to go back to that. HELL TO THE NO. But there are still degrees of awfulness, and all things are not equal.

I think “Believe Women” should be changed to “Listen to Women.” Don’t get me wrong—I’m glad that people are feeling confident and able to share their stories and receive understanding and support. But I don’t want it be swept up in an “All Lives Matter” bullshit storm. And if the troglodytes on the right see an opening—if the Dems decide that we have to be purer than the driven snow—they (the right wingers) will unleash a hellstorm of accusations against every fucking Dem—and if we insist that we’re going to hold our side to a standard that is unattainable and unrealistic, we are fucked.

OK—bring on the downdings and criticisms. I can take it (I’ve been through worse.)

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:04:51pm

Our Thanksgiving dinner this year will be on a train, somewhere in WI.

No idea what we’re going to do for Christmas, since we’re not going home this year. I don’t necessarily see the point in doing a huge production for just the two of us.

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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:05:07pm

re: #60 Belafon

I’ve changed the Christmas tradition. It’s now steak. Turkey is for Thanksgiving.

For as long as I can remember I’ve had takeout pizza on Christmas Eve.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:06:38pm

re: #65 teleskiguy

For as long as I can remember I’ve had takeout pizza on Christmas Eve.

My family tradition is hor d’oeuvres, but not the fancy kind - the mini pizza bagels and mozzarella sticks and olives and pickles and veggies and dip and cheese and crackers. Jalapeno poppers. That sort of thing.

I will probably convince mr. klys we need to do at least some of that for Christmas Eve.

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The Vicious Babushka  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:07:12pm

re: #65 teleskiguy

For as long as I can remember I’ve had takeout pizza on Christmas Eve.

Chinese food here.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:07:45pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:08:33pm

re: #60 Belafon

I’ve changed the Christmas tradition. It’s now steak. Turkey is for Thanksgiving.

We’ve always had ham for Christmas lunch, and my mom has always made a huge breakfast for Christmas morning. The kids have been forced to endure sitting at the table for the whole breakfast before being allowed to open their presents. Christmas Eve generally turns out to be a general mishmash of whatever leftovers happen to be floating around the kitchen, and Christmas cookies.

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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:08:34pm

re: #67 The Vicious Babushka

Chinese food here.

No way!

The stereotype is true!

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calochortus  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:09:08pm

re: #64 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Our Thanksgiving dinner this year will be on a train, somewhere in WI.

No idea what we’re going to do for Christmas, since we’re not going home this year. I don’t necessarily see the point in doing a huge production for just the two of us.

If the weather is nice, you go on a nice hike and have a picnic. We might do something like that this year since, due to my-daughter-the-doctor’s schedule, our Christmas will be on Christmas Eve (which is when we normally have our big dinner anyway.) We did the Christmas hike/picnic thing a few years ago and it was very nice and uncrowded.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:09:37pm

re: #64 klys (maker of Silmarils)

Our Thanksgiving dinner this year will be on a train, somewhere in WI.

No idea what we’re going to do for Christmas, since we’re not going home this year. I don’t necessarily see the point in doing a huge production for just the two of us.

You could delay your trip slightly and stop in to see fishfolk. Not like we’d notice 2 more. ;)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:10:27pm

My friends are getting together for Thanksgiving dinner. Usually everyone brings something. This year, I got a Country Ham from Edwards Smokehouse and a side dish of Brussels Sprouts stir fried with virgin olive oil, diced shallots and bacon. I’m also bringing two Kolachi rolls for dessert—one nut roll and one poppyseed.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:11:31pm

re: #73 Joe Bacon 🌹

My friends are getting together for Thanksgiving dinner. Usually everyone brings something. This year, I got a Country Ham from Edwards Smokehouse and a side dish of Brussels Sprouts stir fried with virgin olive oil, diced shallots and bacon. I’m also bringing two Kolachi rolls for dessert—one nut roll and one poppyseed.

I may, if I feel the desire to share, make my family’s trademark recipe, the vinegar pie, and bring it to Mrs. Fish’s family. I don’t know yet. Nobody else would probably eat it.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:11:35pm

re: #1 Bubblehead II

So has anybody else been upgraded to the new Firefox (57.0)? So far it seems to be faster and LGF doesn’t seem to have any problems with it.

Been running it all week, liking it a lot.

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klys (maker of Silmarils)  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:11:37pm

re: #73 Joe Bacon 🌹

My friends are getting together for Thanksgiving dinner. Usually everyone brings something. This year, I got a Country Ham from Edwards Smokehouse and a side dish of Brussels Sprouts stir fried with virgin olive oil, diced shallots and bacon. I’m also bringing two Kolachi rolls for dessert—one nut roll and one poppyseed.

My first year of grad school, I hosted an East Coast Orphans Thanksgiving, for all my friends who (like me) couldn’t afford to fly home for Thanksgiving. It was a blast.

Sadly most of them have moved back east.

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Brian J.  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:13:03pm

Well, Edwards is going to fall short. He’s about 50,000 votes behind now with about 3/4 of the Election Day vote in, and I don’t see enough votes in New Orleans and other Dem strongholds to make that up. But he’s made it a much tougher race than expected, and has over 40% of the vote even now. It will get closer as New Orleans comes in.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:14:34pm

re: #65 teleskiguy

For as long as I can remember I’ve had takeout pizza on Christmas Eve.

Heh, it was always takeout Chinese at my place when we were kids.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:18:13pm

re: #65 teleskiguy

For as long as I can remember I’ve had takeout pizza on Christmas Eve.

BBQ

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BigPapa  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:18:42pm
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bill d. (b.d.)  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:22:16pm

re: #80 BigPapa

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Cats are such jerks.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:25:56pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:29:14pm

re: #81 bill d. (b.d.)

Cats are such jerks.

Set to music: Dennis Leary’s “He’s an Asshole”.

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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:31:03pm

re: #83 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Youtube Video

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:32:56pm

re: #84 teleskiguy

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I saw a Halo machinima set to this song that puts me in stitches every time.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:33:19pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:34:21pm

re: #85 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I saw a Halo machinima set to this song that puts me in stitches every time.

I DRIVE REALLY SLOW IN THE ULTRA-FAST LANE,
WHILE EVERYONE BEHIND ME IS GOING INSANE!
I’M AN ASSHOLE OH EE OH EE OH!

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:34:36pm

This seems real helpful

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:35:42pm

re: #88 FormerDirtDart

This seems real helpful

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If that’s all it takes, why the fuck didn’t we do that years ago?

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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:36:32pm

TWO WORDS, NUCLEAR FUCKIN’ WEAPONS!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:37:54pm

re: #90 teleskiguy

TWO WORDS, NUCLEAR FUCKIN’ WEAPONS!

Ya wanna know why? Because WE GOT DA BOMB.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:43:41pm
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Single-handed sailor  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:47:20pm

re: #91 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Ya wanna know why? Because WE GOT DA BOMB.

All your base are belong to us.

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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:49:14pm

Seen on Facebook.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:52:16pm

re: #94 teleskiguy

Seen on Facebook.

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Wonder if THC-laced venison has a different flavor.

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stpaulbear  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:52:47pm

re: #92 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Modern Lovers - Pablo Picasso

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Dave In Austin  Nov 18, 2017 • 7:55:17pm
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jaunte  Nov 18, 2017 • 8:07:28pm
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jaunte  Nov 18, 2017 • 8:09:15pm

Johns Hopkins psychologist John Gartner:

“…I think there is an 80 percent chance he’s going to push that nuclear button. Why? Number one, Trump is a malignant narcissist. As far as I know, I cannot recall a single malignant narcissist in history who did not start a major war.

Now add one more factor: Under the surface, this [Robert] Mueller investigation is turning him and his family into cornered animals. They are guilty of treason, guilty of money-laundering, guilty of collusion, guilty of obstruction of justice. They are guilty as sin and they know it. The noose is tightening around their necks and, unlike Richard Nixon, Trump and his cabal are not going to leave gracefully.

Donald Trump is going to be like Bonnie and Clyde; he’s going to shoot his way out. The best way for him to shoot his way out is to start a war and distract from his misdeeds, rally the country behind him and — most importantly from a psychological perspective — to transform the feeling of being a weak victim of a massive criminal investigation into that of an omnipotent destructive and powerful leader by destroying and killing millions of people.”salon.com

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Belafon  Nov 18, 2017 • 8:09:22pm

re: #98 jaunte

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Here’s the thing, though, we don’t treat him any different. You don’t give into madmen even if they have the bomb, because what could set them off really doesn’t have anything to do with how you treat them.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Nov 18, 2017 • 8:11:12pm

re: #94 teleskiguy

Blucifer!!!!

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Brian J.  Nov 18, 2017 • 8:12:32pm

And it’s over. It took 2 hours and 7 minutes from the polls closing to the final votes tallied. Louisiana does a good job running elections.

Louisiana Treasurer- Final and Unofficial results
Derrick Edwards, Democrat 165,269 (44.26%)
John Schroder, Republican 208,118 (55.74%)

Edwards should have been a bad joke of a candidate. He’s a lawyer, a paraplegic and a disability advocate, but has degrees in accounting (unlike Schroder) making him more suitable for the actual job. He ran 8th in last year’s Senate race, just behind David Duke. He raised less than $25,000 for his entire campaign (Schroder raised over 50 times that much). He didn’t get the Democrats’ endorsement until the runoff, mostly because he hardly campaigned due to lack of resources.

And he won more than 44% of the vote. He gained 13 points from the primary five weeks ago. If I’m a GOoPer, my collar’s feeling tighter this evening.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 18, 2017 • 8:34:50pm

re: #94 teleskiguy

Seen on Facebook.

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On tonight’s walk I saw three deer at the exact same spot where five of them were two nights ago. It’s the deer hangout. I’m so jazzed because I didn’t think there were any deer around here. Thinking of going there during the day and setting up a motion activated wildlife cam.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Nov 18, 2017 • 8:45:55pm
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The Major  Nov 18, 2017 • 8:47:28pm

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Renaissance_Man  Nov 18, 2017 • 8:48:00pm

re: #15 Nyet

I don’t know why he wouldn’t open it slightly and just toss the rat inside.

I have done this job. Did it for a summer as a teen.

Most venomous snakes won’t eat something that’s obviously dead when they first see it. They have to strike at the moving target or better yet, the target needs to be actually alive. We used live mice, but you couldn’t just toss them in live and active either, in case they bit or scratched the snake. So you hauled them out, gave them a whack to stun them a bit, and then opened and tossed them in.

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ObserverArt  Nov 18, 2017 • 8:52:45pm

Anyone watching SNL and Chance the Rapper and two of the guys from SNL doing their soulful “Come Back Barack?” It’s pretty fun. A little dig or two.

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jaunte  Nov 18, 2017 • 8:54:29pm

“Come back Barack! Maybe Michelle can run.”

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jaunte  Nov 18, 2017 • 8:56:30pm

Trump is watching SNL. We’ll hear about this.

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The Major  Nov 18, 2017 • 8:57:31pm
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FormerDirtDart  Nov 18, 2017 • 8:59:20pm

re: #49 FormerDirtDart

Drummers, they’re pretty much all cut from the same cloth, aren’t they?

I rest my case…

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 18, 2017 • 9:04:39pm
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wheat-dogg  Nov 18, 2017 • 9:05:41pm

Currently listening to:

Larry Carlton Quartet - Festival de Jazz de Vitoria-Gasteiz 2017

while I prepare the week’s lessons

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jaunte  Nov 18, 2017 • 9:06:05pm
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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2017 • 9:08:44pm

re: #111 FormerDirtDart

I’m so glad I got to see Prince perform, if only one time. The last song he played was “Purple Rain,” with his Prince Symbol guitar and lots of smoke and purple lights. And, FTR, I’ve *never* seen more women at a concert than at that Prince show in the Pepsi Center in Denver.

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Romantic Heretic  Nov 18, 2017 • 9:14:37pm

re: #43 Belafon

The perfect is the enemy of the good.

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ObserverArt  Nov 18, 2017 • 9:15:52pm

The SNL Cold Open…with Julian Assange and The Trump boys.

Edit: Funky video…sorry. I thought it was full screen.

SNL hilariously re-enacts Donald Trump Jr. — and Eric’s — liaison with WikiLeaks’ Julian Assange

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The Major  Nov 18, 2017 • 9:19:41pm

OK, so I had a typo- shoot me…

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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2017 • 9:27:49pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 18, 2017 • 9:45:37pm

Presstitution in action…

And yet Conservatives endlessly BS about a “Liberal” media!
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jaunte  Nov 18, 2017 • 9:47:48pm
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jaunte  Nov 18, 2017 • 9:57:46pm
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jaunte  Nov 18, 2017 • 10:00:42pm
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Belafon  Nov 18, 2017 • 10:08:38pm

re: #123 jaunte

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Remember how every paper but one endorsed Clinton?

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retired cynic  Nov 18, 2017 • 10:10:36pm

re: #124 Belafon

Remember how every paper but one endorsed Clinton?

I do.

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Belafon  Nov 18, 2017 • 10:13:04pm

Has anyone ever ordered air conditioner filters online? The internal unit requires filters of size 23.5” x 21.5” x 1”. If you have, can you point me at a good site.

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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2017 • 10:16:55pm

re: #126 Belafon

amazon.com

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Belafon  Nov 18, 2017 • 10:23:27pm

re: #127 teleskiguy

amazon.com

Thanks.

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teleskiguy  Nov 18, 2017 • 10:25:12pm
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Belafon  Nov 18, 2017 • 10:25:14pm

re: #111 FormerDirtDart

Justine Bateman. There’s a name I haven’t seen in a while.

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goddamnedfrank  Nov 18, 2017 • 10:25:50pm

re: #126 Belafon

Has anyone ever ordered air conditioner filters online? The internal unit requires filters of size 23.5” x 21.5” x 1”. If you have, can you point me at a good site.

Best volume price I could find on MERV 11 filters in that size.

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Belafon  Nov 18, 2017 • 10:32:31pm

re: #131 goddamnedfrank

Best volume price I could find on MERV 11 filters in that size.

Thanks. After teleskiguy pointed me at amazon, I found a six pack version of the filters you found. Thanks to all of you for help. I used to buy them through the company that installed my AC, but they went bankrupt and shut down for a while. Another company resurrected them with the same name, but not the same customer service. I also only got 4 years out of my 10 year warranty.

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allegro  Nov 18, 2017 • 11:39:27pm

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It’s real late but… This kinda breaks my heart. It’s not the guy’s job - I’m weird, it freaks me out not at all. I could do that without blinking an eye. It’s that all those snakes appear to be living in file drawers and WTF.

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Stanley Sea  Nov 18, 2017 • 11:47:16pm

I AM HOME

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allegro  Nov 18, 2017 • 11:52:43pm

re: #63 BeachDem

I wish I could upding this a million times.

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freetoken  Nov 18, 2017 • 11:54:09pm

For those not familiar with the PineCreek channel on Youtube, it consists of many thoughtful dissections of the poor thinking and/or misleading nature of many religious pronouncements.

In the latest installment:

Why I no longer go to church, sermons like these: Steven Furtick; FAITH

the preacher Steven Furtick is taken to task. You can tell the video must hit home with many fundamentalists, if you read the comments.

We need now more than ever to see more of these kind of public dissections of the conmen.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Nov 19, 2017 • 12:20:47am

re: #113 wheat-dogg

My current background music:

Pink Floyd - Echoes (Part 1) - Live at Pompei 1972

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Jebediah, RBG  Nov 19, 2017 • 12:33:17am

re: #133 allegro

Bothered me too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2017 • 12:35:02am

re: #41 Charles Johnson

Left wing puritopians are almost as much an enemy of progress as right wing Trump cultists. When we listen to these self-righteous scolds we always end up getting hurt.

It’s trickier than that: the RW ratfuckers & trolls make sure their message gets spread and magnified and held up as the paragon of modern progressive thought.

They did that big time for Bernie, but ultimately not for Bernie’s sake, it was simply a matter of doing anything to divide the Democrats & weaken Hillary.

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allegro  Nov 19, 2017 • 12:39:29am

re: #138 Jebediah, RBG

Bothered me too.

Thank you. Some of us gots to take up for the herps.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2017 • 12:47:52am

re: #63 BeachDem

My formative years were spent in a time when “date rape” was not a recognized thing. Back then, if you got “date raped,” it was because you exercised poor judgement/got too drunk. Yeah, I still remember being pinned down in some asshole’s bed and waiting for him to pass out so I could climb out the window and walk home barefoot. Do I want to go back to that. HELL TO THE NO. But there are still degrees of awfulness, and all things are not equal.

This topic is all but impossible to discuss in our talking-point, sound-byte and Twitter driven climate of discourse. Human interaction is too nuanced and dependent on context and circumstances to be discussed that way.

Certainly, there can be degrees of complicity, but non-consensual sex is, by definition, rape. Naturally there is a distinction between physical, violent assault and taking advantage of someone who is too intoxicated, but it is still not acceptable, and even if a woman bears some degree of complicity, it does not mean that she was “asking for it”, nor does it absolve the man of his role in the act.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2017 • 12:49:03am

re: #70 teleskiguy

Chinese food here.

No way!

The stereotype is true!

I am sure it is a tradition dating back to times when Chinese restaurants were the only things open on Xmas Eve and Xmas Day.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2017 • 12:50:19am

re: #86 Charles Johnson

It’s an indicator of how deadly serious this situation is getting. What’s going on behind the scenes that would impel the top US nuclear commander to make a PUBLIC statement like this one?

exactly. we all know that is what they have been thinking since he got elected…

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 19, 2017 • 12:57:56am

re: #144 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

exactly. we all know that is what they have been thinking since he got elected…

Most likely, they’ve concluded Trump’s fucking crazy.

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allegro  Nov 19, 2017 • 12:59:47am

re: #142 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Certainly, there can be degrees of complicity, but non-consensual sex is, by definition, rape. Naturally there is a distinction between physical, violent assault and taking advantage of someone who is too intoxicated, but it is still not acceptable, and even if a woman bears some degree of complicity, it does not mean that she was “asking for it”, nor does it absolve the man of his role in the act.

This is a kinda amazing portrait of rape culture in two sentences.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 19, 2017 • 1:08:35am

re: #143 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I am sure it is a tradition dating back to times when Chinese restaurants were the only things open on Xmas Eve and Xmas Day.

As expressed in the Talmud. //

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 19, 2017 • 1:53:18am

re: #147 wheat-dogg

As expressed in the Talmud. //

“And lo! the children of Israel were hungry and bereft of hope. They beseeched Aaron to seek the guidance of the LORD.”

“So Aaron cried out, ‘O LORD! Your children are miserable and racked with the pangs of hunger for behold, there is nowhere to eat on this day! Guide me, LORD, so that I may tell thy people where to find sustenance!”

“And the heavens flashed with lightning and the voice of the LORD boomed like thunder: ‘I have heard thy supplication, Aaron! I recommend the Chinese Garden on 2nd Avenue, just over the next hill. They have an all-you-can-eat buffet on weekdays from 11 to 1. And their General Tso’s Chicken is the best you’ll find ‘round these parts!’ Thus spoke the LORD.”

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wheat-dogg  Nov 19, 2017 • 2:10:37am

re: #148 Dr Lizardo

“And lo! the children of Israel were hungry and bereft of hope. They beseeched Aaron to seek the guidance of the LORD.”

“So Aaron cried out, ‘O LORD! Your children are miserable and racked with the pangs of hunger for behold, there is nowhere to eat on this day! Guide me, LORD, so that I may tell thy people where to find sustenance!”

“And the heavens flashed with lightning and the voice of the LORD boomed like thunder: ‘I have heard thy supplication, Aaron! I recommend the Chinese Garden on 2nd Avenue, just over the next hill. They have an all-you-can-eat buffet on weekdays from 11 to 1. And their General Tso’s Chicken is the best you’ll find ‘round these parts!’ Thus spoke the LORD.”

So “manna from Heaven” was a mistranslation for “Chinese buffet on 2nd Avenue”? Who knew?

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teleskiguy  Nov 19, 2017 • 2:14:52am
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Dr Lizardo  Nov 19, 2017 • 2:15:40am

re: #149 wheat-dogg

So “manna from Heaven” was a mistranslation for “Chinese buffet on 2nd Avenue”? Who knew?

Well, you know, mistranslations happen all the time.

BTW, the Chinese Garden on 2nd Avenue is a real place; it’s in Camas, WA. I used to go there for the lunch buffet from time to time. It’s not bad. My all-time favorite Chinese place in the Portland, OR metro area was House of Louie; that’s a good place, and I always recommend it to people visiting the city.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2017 • 2:28:38am

re: #148 Dr Lizardo

“And the heavens flashed with lightning and the voice of the LORD boomed like thunder: ‘I have heard thy supplication, Aaron! I recommend the Chinese Garden on 2nd Avenue, just over the next hill. They have an all-you-can-eat buffet on weekdays from 11 to 1. And their General Tso’s Chicken is the best you’ll find ‘round these parts!’ Thus spoke the LORD.”

Ran across a great documentary, The Search for General Tso, which is not only about the eponymous dish (which is unknown in China) but also how it came to be that nearly every town in America had a Chinese laundry and a Chinese restaurant, namely as a result of the Chinese Exclusion Act, which made it illegal to hire Chinese people, meaning that they had no choice but to open family businesses.

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freetoken  Nov 19, 2017 • 3:02:13am
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freetoken  Nov 19, 2017 • 3:09:24am

This was notable for the surprise guest (who died just two years ago):

ビジーフォー ベン・E・キング スタンド・バイ・ミー

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Dave In Austin  Nov 19, 2017 • 3:17:30am
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Dr Lizardo  Nov 19, 2017 • 3:52:22am

Just got a BBC News Alert on my phone…..Zimbabwe’s Robert Mugabe is out as his party’s leader; his ZANU-PF ruling party has given him the boot. Former VP Emmerson Mnangagwa has been appointed to take his place.

That clears the way for Mugabe to be out as President of Zimbabwe. He’s done.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 19, 2017 • 4:02:19am

Back in a bit.

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Nyet  Nov 19, 2017 • 4:43:04am

re: #156 Dr Lizardo

Just got a BBC News Alert on my phone…..Zimbabwe’s Robert Mugabe is out as his party’s leader; his ZANU-PF ruling party has given him the boot. Former VP Emmerson Mnangagwa has been appointed to take his place.

That clears the way for Mugabe to be out as President of Zimbabwe. He’s done.

Now he can be the US President. //

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 19, 2017 • 4:54:52am

re: #158 Nyet

Now he can be the US President. //

Heh.

It also seems that his wife, Grace Mugabe, has been completely expelled from ZANU-PF. Rumor is she might be brought up on charges.

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Nyet  Nov 19, 2017 • 4:59:56am

Meanwhile we have found one more document indicating that most Lidice children were not gassed in Chelmno and were, in fact, alive in 1943, contrary to what so many books claim.

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jeffreyw  Nov 19, 2017 • 5:35:11am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Nov 19, 2017 • 5:39:39am

Something else for which I bless LGF: The absence of Moon landing deniers and other batshit conspira-liars. In contrast, every major RW site is infested with Moon hoax vermin, Free Republic, Redstate, Bretibart, etc. We know that there are still many lefty conspira-fools, of course, but the right is increasingly the natural home of the ignorant, the dishonest, and the gullible. Conspiracy claims are not forbidden here, their absence is just what happens when a rational person works hard for years on end to create a community of rational people.

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Nyet  Nov 19, 2017 • 5:49:04am

re: #162 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

It seems counter-intuitive, why would these “patriots” deny their country’s achievements? Idiots.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 19, 2017 • 5:51:16am

re: #162 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

In contrast, every major RW site is infested with Moon hoax vermin, Free Republic, Redstate, Bretibart, etc. We know that there are still many lefty conspira-fools, of course, but the right is increasingly the natural home of the ignorant, the dishonest, and the gullible

That’s because when people can convince themselves that snakes can talk, that the Earth is only 6,000 years old, that dinosaurs partied on the Fiesta Deck of Noah’s Ark and that the resurrected corpse of an itinerant apocalyptic preacher who had been brutally murdered only days before can fly away into the sky like Superman…..well, those folks can convince themselves of pretty much anything.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2017 • 5:54:32am

re: #163 Nyet

re: #164 Dr Lizardo

Because government, and all its works (save war), is evil. Ignoble savages.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Nov 19, 2017 • 6:04:37am

Like the south Texas colonias, this is a hidden world of want and desperation right on our doorsteps.

Many older Americans are living a desperate, nomadic life

In her powerful new book, “Nomadland,” award-winning journalist Jessica Bruder reveals the dark, depressing and sometimes physically painful life of a tribe of men and women in their 50s and 60s who are — as the subtitle says — “surviving America in the twenty-first century.” Not quite homeless, they are “houseless,” living in secondhand RVs, trailers and vans and driving from one location to another to pick up seasonal low-wage jobs, if they can get them, with little or no benefits.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2017 • 6:07:33am

re: #165 Decatur Deb

Because government, and all its works (save war), is a Soros-funded, Obama-led deep-state conspiracy to turn us into a gay secularist Islamist state..

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2017 • 6:09:56am

re: #166 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

In her powerful new book, “Nomadland,” award-winning journalist Jessica Bruder reveals the dark, depressing and sometimes physically painful life of a tribe of men and women in their 50s and 60s who are — as the subtitle says — “surviving America in the twenty-first century.”

I can imagine these are the people who were unable to adapt their skills set to the digitalized age and now can only offer themselves as cheap, easily replaced labor or service personnel.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Nov 19, 2017 • 6:15:30am

re: #163 Nyet

It seems counter-intuitive, why would these “patriots” deny their country’s achievements? Idiots.

The Moon landings were a monumental achievement of advanced science and engineering and, ultimately, of organized intellect. As such, they are anathema to anti-intellectuals and to the profoundly anti-intellectual bigotry that pervades American society. If some self educated entrepreneur like Henry Ford had managed to reach the Moon, or had even claimed to, these same people would have no trouble believing it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2017 • 6:22:14am

re: #169 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

The Moon landings were a monumental achievement of advanced science and engineering and, ultimately, of organized intellect. As such, they are anathema to anti-intellectuals and to the profoundly anti-intellectual bigotry that pervades American society. If some self educated entrepreneur like Henry Ford had managed to reach the Moon, or had even claimed to, these same people would have no trouble believing it.

The problem lies in the fact that government did it as part of a large, collective and non-profit endeavor. If a private entrepreneur had done it, they would find it admirable.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2017 • 6:23:13am

THE GOVERNMENT ALWAYS LIES.

That’s not true, but it lies often enough to make it arguable. Reality was collateral damage to other administrations. Now it is the pinpoint target.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Nov 19, 2017 • 6:23:34am

re: #170 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The problem lies in the fact that government did it. If a private entrepreneur had done it, they would find it admirable.

That’s part of it, but these same people have little love for Elon Musk.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2017 • 6:26:46am

re: #172 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

That’s part of it, but these same people have little love for Elon Musk.

because he is building the wrong kind of cars

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darthstar  Nov 19, 2017 • 6:36:43am

Happy Sunday everyone…I just happened across the “Take a Knee, my ass” lyrics and I almost shed a tear for freedom.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 19, 2017 • 6:38:21am

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I must have missed the cobra feeders table at the job fair.

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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2017 • 6:39:52am

re: #163 Nyet

It seems counter-intuitive, why would these “patriots” deny their country’s achievements? Idiots.

To piss off liberals.

It is why they voted for and still support Trump.

With that goal in mind, everything wingnut makes sense while not making actual sense.

They even have a major news network to keep the entire program in place.

I don’t watch Fox because it pisses me off.

Therefore I am a liberal.

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scottslemmons  Nov 19, 2017 • 6:42:53am

re: #168 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I can imagine these are the people who were unable to adapt their skills set to the digitalized age and now can only offer themselves as cheap, easily replaced labor or service personnel.

I think it’s more that employers hate hiring older workers, the economy had a downshift a few years ago that wiped out a lot of homeowners, and people who can’t get jobs still need to eat.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2017 • 6:44:02am

re: #177 scottslemmons

I think it’s more that employers hate hiring older workers, the economy had a downshift a few years ago that wiped out a lot of homeowners, and people who can’t get jobs still need to eat.

Older workers still recall a time when employees had certain rights and expectations to be treated with a modicum of human decency. That has been bred out of the latest generation of gig economy drones.

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scottslemmons  Nov 19, 2017 • 6:46:08am

re: #176 ObserverArt

To piss off liberals.

^^^This. We joke about it, but sometimes I do wonder if Hillary Clinton started volunteering at a suicide hotline, how many Republicans would kill themselves just to spite her.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Nov 19, 2017 • 7:00:29am

re: #179 scottslemmons

^^^This. We joke about it, but sometimes I do wonder if Hillary Clinton started volunteering at a suicide hotline, how many Republicans would kill themselves just to spite her.

We need to find out how much Hillary is going to save from Trump’s tax cuts……and have her say thanks to all of the middle class republican folks for the extra, unneeded money.

Then start calling it the Clinton tax cut….

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wheat-dogg  Nov 19, 2017 • 7:02:39am

re: #166 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Like the south Texas colonias, this is a hidden world of want and desperation right on our doorsteps.

Many older Americans are living a desperate, nomadic life

I bet a fair number are Trump supporters.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Nov 19, 2017 • 7:05:10am

re: #176 ObserverArt

To piss off liberals.

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wheat-dogg  Nov 19, 2017 • 7:05:56am

Very OT, but I caught the Justice League movie. It’s not bad, but still pales in comparison to Wonder Woman or the MCU Avengers series. There are some teasers to later movies, of course.

I will not plot summarize, because spoilers.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 19, 2017 • 7:06:29am

re: #182 bill d. (b.d.)

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Conservatives should be well aware that those of us on the left/center-left find it absolutely infuriating when people eat their own feces.

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Charmingly Persistent  Nov 19, 2017 • 7:13:16am

re: #180 bill d. (b.d.)

We need to find out how much Hillary is going to save from Trump’s tax cuts……and have her say thanks to all of the middle class republican folks for the extra, unneeded money.

Then start calling it the Clinton tax cut….

Dude, that is AWESOME. You should email her and suggest it.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Nov 19, 2017 • 7:19:19am

re: #185 Charmingly Persistent

Dude, that is AWESOME. You should email her and suggest it.

Email Hillary!?! No thanks, I don’t want a subpoena.

//

Feel free though, nothing would piss off a wingnut more and turn them against this tax scheme than knowing that Hillary would be getting tons of money from it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2017 • 7:27:09am

they are all morons in the WH

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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2017 • 7:30:11am

re: #182 bill d. (b.d.)

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A perfect example.

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2017 • 7:33:43am

Greets and saluts from the Resistance in the NYC metro area. Another day, another endless supply of bullshit from the GOP and Trumpworld about how their tax scheme will help the middle class when everyone who is running the actual numbers knows that the middle class will get screwed because you need to know the math before you can say whether anyone who isn’t rich comes out ahead from these tax schemes.

The only ones to definitely come out with tax breaks are millionaires.

The owners of passthroughs come out like bandits - people including Trump.

Speaking of Trump, it turns out that he’s inflated his worth for years, and based on what little publicly available financial information is out there, he’s worth about 10% of what he’s long claimed. He’s still a billionaire, but his wealth and fortune are highly leveraged and he’s still going to profit from the passthrough cuts from 39% down to 25%.

So of course the Trumpworld talking heads come on the Sunday shows to claim that this helps middle class.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 19, 2017 • 7:34:18am

Well that was awkward.

“What are you having for breakfast?

A Dutch Baby.
“whaaa?!”

Some explanation was required.

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Charmingly Persistent  Nov 19, 2017 • 7:34:25am

re: #186 bill d. (b.d.)

Email Hillary!?! No thanks, I don’t want a subpoena.

//

Feel free though, nothing would piss off a wingnut more and turn them against this tax scheme than knowing that Hillary would be getting tons of money from it.

Here you are (Ok; Twitter instead of email):

I kept your secret identity a secret.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Nov 19, 2017 • 7:35:57am

re: #191 Charmingly Persistent

Here you are (Ok; Twitter instead of email):

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I kept your secret identity a secret.

lol, thank you! perfect…

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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2017 • 7:36:49am

Oh joy..Andrea Mitchell in for Cuck Toad today. And she is going to be talking about how fair is the new tax plan and is it good for the middle glass. Her panel Budget Director Mick Mulvaney and Senator Roy Blunt…both Republicans.

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2017 • 7:37:34am

It’s incomprehensible that anyone thinks that this will somehow advance the peace process.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 19, 2017 • 7:37:58am

re: #179 scottslemmons

^^^This. We joke about it, but sometimes I do wonder if Hillary Clinton started volunteering at a suicide hotline, how many Republicans would kill themselves just to spite her.

Hilary and Obama paired up on the hotline.

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2017 • 7:38:58am
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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2017 • 7:39:42am

re: #186 bill d. (b.d.)

Email Hillary!?! No thanks, I don’t want a subpoena.

//

Feel free though, nothing would piss off a wingnut more and turn them against this tax scheme than knowing that Hillary would be getting tons of money from it.

Gives me an idea for a Photoshop graphic. I’ll see if I can get it together later. Maybe if I pull it off some LGF members could tweet it and get it going to see if your theory works by the reaction to it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 19, 2017 • 7:42:36am

re: #194 lawhawk

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It’s incomprehensible that anyone thinks that this will somehow advance the peace process.

The Religious Right wants to bring on Armageddon.

They’re going to be shocked when JC and his Sonshine Band don’t show up!

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 19, 2017 • 7:44:11am

re: #198 Joe Bacon 🌹

The Religious Rights wants to bring on Armageddon.

They’re going to be shocked when JC and his Sonshine Band don’t show up!

A lot of them think they’re gonna be Raptured before the red balloon goes up and The Big Hot One kicks off.

I can only imagine what their reaction would be when that doesn’t happen.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2017 • 7:48:11am

re: #194 lawhawk

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It’s incomprehensible that anyone thinks that this will somehow advance the peace process.

Indyk was the ambassador when we were there. He’s not that stupid.

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Unshaken Defiance  Nov 19, 2017 • 7:48:33am

re: #197 ObserverArt

Gives me an idea for a Photoshop graphic. I’ll see if I can get it together later. Maybe if I pull it off some LGF members could tweet it and get it going to see if your theory works by the reaction to it.

I’m in.

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Charmingly Persistent  Nov 19, 2017 • 7:50:21am

re: #197 ObserverArt

Gives me an idea for a Photoshop graphic. I’ll see if I can get it together later. Maybe if I pull it off some LGF members could tweet it and get it going to see if your theory works by the reaction to it.

Looking forward to seeing it. A whole series of these would be great. Most hated Hollywood types. Kennedys. George Soros!!!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 19, 2017 • 7:57:04am

re: #199 Dr Lizardo

A lot of them think they’re gonna be Raptured before the red balloon goes up and The Big Hot One kicks off.

I can only imagine what their reaction would be when that doesn’t happen.

Religion dumbed them down to the point that they will believe that the Rapture is still on JC’s “To Do” list. Even as John Hagee gloats about the Middle East turning into radioactive glass…because the truth is that the Religious Right wants to finish what Hitler started!

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Stephen T.  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:04:28am

re: #162 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Something else for which I bless LGF: The absence of Moon landing deniers and other batshit conspira-liars. In contrast, every major RW site is infested with Moon hoax vermin, Free Republic, Redstate, Bretibart, etc. We know that there are still many lefty conspira-fools, of course, but the right is increasingly the natural home of the ignorant, the dishonest, and the gullible. Conspiracy claims are not forbidden here, their absence is just what happens when a rational person works hard for years on end to create a community of rational people.

I’ve noticed that those on the Right and those on the Left have specific, let’s say genres, of Conspiracy Theories. The Right has false flags to take away your guns, while the Left has anti-vaxxers to poison children. The Right has FEMA Camps to round up undesirables , while the left is afraid of The Handmaid’s Tale becoming reality.

Obviously there is some crossover, wing nuts will wing nut, Right or Left.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:07:45am

What kind of cheese is it, Grommit?

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Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:10:07am

re: #205 Barefoot Grin

What kind of cheese is it, Grommit?

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Just when you thought Freud had been debunked…

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:12:57am

re: #200 Decatur Deb

I know who he is… it’s incomprehensible that even he thinks this somehow will deliver peace or force a deal.

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I cannot.  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:13:59am

My coworkers are stupid.

How stupid? They managed to put trash bags in the cans incorrectly.

THREE DIFFERENT WAYS. They put small bags in the large cans, large bags in the small cans, and some other implausibly stupid thing.

How is that even possible?

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retired cynic  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:14:39am

re: #166 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Like the south Texas colonias, this is a hidden world of want and desperation right on our doorsteps.

Many older Americans are living a desperate, nomadic life

I heard her on NPR. Made me so angry and sad, and a bit scared.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:16:00am

re: #207 lawhawk

I know who he is… it’s incomprehensible that even he thinks this somehow will deliver peace or force a deal.

Either there’s some kind of diplo-snark at play, or he has begun to lose it. He lived inside the intractability of the ME for decades.

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:16:13am
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Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:17:35am

re: #211 FormerDirtDart

Lincoln speaks at Gettysburg, today 1863:

Looks ‘shopped.

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lawhawk  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:17:43am

re: #210 Decatur Deb

Yeah, that’s got to be it - my sarcasm indicator has been on the fritz since January.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:18:57am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:19:30am
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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:19:45am

This makes sense. Jared and Ivanka driving the collusion bus.

Lock ‘em up.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:22:34am

re: #216 makeitstop

This makes sense. Jared and Ivanka driving the collusion bus.

Lock ‘em up.

Ivanka is the smiling face of corruption.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:23:52am

re: #209 retired cynic

I heard her on NPR. Made me so angry and sad, and a bit scared.

This is why I see a lot of elderly people in line to buy Powerball and Mega Millions tickets.

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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:26:25am

re: #201 Unshaken Defiance

I’m in.

I have the idea started and cooking. I’m going to get it later today, put up a first version and get some LGF input to tighten up the idea best as possible and go from there.

Current running theme title: They aren’t doing tax cut reform for you…they are doing it for them.

And then images of some popular Liberal people wingnuts hate.
Clintons
Obamas
George Soros
George Clooney

And some established Republicans on the hate list…
The Bushes
Mitch McConnell
Paul Ryan
John McCain
Mitt Romney

With the closing lines: You really get nothing but cuts in Welfare and Medicare, less deductions, less access and higher costs for education and eventually higher taxes. While They get more power over you.

And if you support President Trump, Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Breitbart, Alex Jones you are screwing yourself. So why do you support the Republican Tax Reform Plans when they do not support you?

Input wanted.

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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:28:07am

re: #208 I cannot.

My coworkers are stupid.

How stupid? They managed to put trash bags in the cans incorrectly.

THREE DIFFERENT WAYS. They put small bags in the large cans, large bags in the small cans, and some other implausibly stupid thing.

How is that even possible?

You already answered it.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:28:14am

re: #219 ObserverArt

I have the idea started and cooking. I’m going to get it later today, put up a first version and get some LGF input to tighten up the idea best as possible and go from there.

Current running theme title: They aren’t doing tax cut reform for you…they are doing it for them.

And then images of some popular Liberal people wingnuts hate.
Clintons
Obamas
George Soros
George Clooney

And some established Republicans on the hate list…
The Bushes
Mitch McConnell
Paul Ryan
John McCain
Mitt Romney

With the closing lines: You really get nothing but cuts in Welfare and Medicare, less deductions, less access and higher costs for education and eventually higher taxes. While They get more power over you.

And if you support President Trump, Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Breitbart, Alex Jones you are screwing yourself. So why do you support the Republican Tax Reform Plans when they do not support you?

Input wanted.

Michael Moore and Warren Buffet. They might even be open to cooperate.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:28:59am

re: #202 Charmingly Persistent

Looking forward to seeing it. A whole series of these would be great. Most hated Hollywood types. Kennedys. George Soros!!!

Why are we giving Harvey Weinstein, Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton millions in tax cuts?

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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:32:29am

re: #221 Decatur Deb

Michael Moore and Warren Buffet. They might even be open to cooperate.

That is what I am looking for. Thanks Deb.

I’m gonna stay logged in, but I have a bunch of stuff to do and will be checking the thread from time to time.

I want this to work, and maybe a series is a good idea too.

Keep it coming.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:33:23am

re: #222 bill d. (b.d.)

Why are we giving Harvey Weinstein, Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton millions in tax cuts?

oh, and, the GOP is giving PharmaBro and most NFL kneelers huge taxs cut too.

I’m taking a knee to get my Trump tax cut!

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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:34:46am

Another theme in the series.

Rich Man. Poor Man.

They make the rich richer and the poor poorer.

And if you are in the middle…you are going DOWN!

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:34:47am

re: #217 HappyWarrior

Ivanka is the smiling face of corruption.

Her and Jared, taking advantage of a senile old man to gain wealth at any cost.

(Not excusing the senile old man here. He deserves to be locked up, too.)

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scottslemmons  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:36:36am

re: #219 ObserverArt

I have the idea started and cooking. I’m going to get it later today, put up a first version and get some LGF input to tighten up the idea best as possible and go from there.

Current running theme title: They aren’t doing tax cut reform for you…they are doing it for them.

And then images of some popular Liberal people wingnuts hate.
Clintons
Obamas
George Soros
George Clooney

And some established Republicans on the hate list…
The Bushes
Mitch McConnell
Paul Ryan
John McCain
Mitt Romney

With the closing lines: You really get nothing but cuts in Welfare and Medicare, less deductions, less access and higher costs for education and eventually higher taxes. While They get more power over you.

And if you support President Trump, Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Breitbart, Alex Jones you are screwing yourself. So why do you support the Republican Tax Reform Plans when they do not support you?

Input wanted.

If you’re trying for a single image/meme, shorter is always better. Less text, fewer images. Or a series of single images: Hillary Clinton with text: “Thanks for paying for my tax cut, Trumpers!” Paul Ryan with text: “Thanks for paying for my tax cut, Trumpers!” Donald Trump with text: “Thanks for paying for my tax cut, losers!”

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:36:51am

re: #209 retired cynic

I heard her on NPR. Made me so angry and sad, and a bit scared.

I forget where I saw it, but I read a story about this phenomenon a few weeks ago talking about how great it was and how much this one couple in particular loved shuttling around in their RV to work for Amazon.

Struck me as kinda weird at the time.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:38:48am

re: #226 makeitstop

Her and Jared, taking advantage of a senile old man to gain wealth at any cost.

(Not excusing the senile old man here. He deserves to be locked up, too.)

Would like to see any crimes prosecuted to conviction, but then the First (gaaakk) Family should be pardoned, and isolated in disgrace. A healthy democracy does not lock up the political opposition. We didn’t even do it to the fucking Confederates.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:39:09am

re: #227 scottslemmons

If you’re trying for a single image/meme, shorter is always better. Less text, fewer images. Or a series of single images: Hillary Clinton with text: “Thanks for paying for my tax cut, Trumpers!” Paul Ryan with text: “Thanks for paying for my tax cut, Trumpers!” Donald Trump with text: “Thanks for paying for my tax cut, losers!”

fewer is better but c’mon we need to put Colin Kapernick and Harvey Weinstein in there too.

lol, thanks for your money wingnuts!

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scottslemmons  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:39:41am

re: #228 makeitstop

I forget where I saw it, but I read a story about this phenomenon a few weeks ago talking about how great it was and how much this one couple in particular loved shuttling around in their RV to work for Amazon.

Struck me as kinda weird at the time.

I remember that. I think it was on NPR’s site. It was part “We love traveling around the country! We love Amazon!” with a just-under-the-surface undercurrent of “We hate being tired and broke and mostly homeless and not having medicine and…”

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jeffreyw  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:40:19am

Grumble
Chrome will not open, will not reinstall, all I get is frowny face “Oops, ran into unspecified problem”
Chrome Canary likewise…
standalone installers a no go
Even tried to delete Google folder from x86 program files
Access denied
“you need read permissions to read the permissions”
Fuck me
resetting…now

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:41:18am

Damn, my boxer is freakin’ out.
My bike’s tire just blew at the valve stem. Thought it might happen. Took a puncture going to the store this morning. Realized on the way back. Using self sealing tubes so pumped it back up when I got home. But, got some bulging at the stem. And, about 40 minutes later it blew. very loud.
Took me a few beats to realize what happened.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:41:32am

re: #230 bill d. (b.d.)

fewer is better but c’mon we need to put Colin Kapernick and Harvey Weinstein in there too.

lol, thanks for your money wingnuts!

A series of micro-ads, then per scottslemmons.

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:41:42am

re: #229 Decatur Deb

Would like to see any crimes prosecuted to conviction, but then the First (gaaakk) Family should be pardoned, and isolated in disgrace. A healthy democracy does not lock up the political opposition. We didn’t even do it to the fucking Confederates.

I see them a little different than our political enemies.

They are enemies of democracy as we know it. They’re actively trying to destroy it in order to make more bank.

If we’re not going to lock them all up, then we should pick one and make an extreme example of them. A metaphorical head on a pike.

People need to see that undermining our political structure for financial gain will not end badly. Whoever they are.

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scottslemmons  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:42:17am

re: #230 bill d. (b.d.)

fewer is better but c’mon we need to put Colin Kapernick and Harvey Weinstein in there too.

lol, thanks for your money wingnuts!

Yes, when I say “fewer images,” I just mean, “Don’t fill your meme up with dozens of images and pages of tiny unreadable text.” Dozens of images and pages of tiny unreadable text are how the wingnuts do memes. :)

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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:42:20am

re: #227 scottslemmons

If you’re trying for a single image/meme, shorter is always better. Less text, fewer images. Or a series of single images: Hillary Clinton with text: “Thanks for paying for my tax cut, Trumpers!” Paul Ryan with text: “Thanks for paying for my tax cut, Trumpers!” Donald Trump with text: “Thanks for paying for my tax cut, losers!”

I agree. That is why I am thinking of a series too. But one in general with all characters and just one big headline can work as long as it appears as one collective image.

I see I am going to be busy. But if this helps, then damnit…time well spent.

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:43:57am

re: #219 ObserverArt

I have the idea started and cooking. I’m going to get it later today, put up a first version and get some LGF input to tighten up the idea best as possible and go from there.

i’d keep it more focused and k.i.s.s.

They aren’t doing tax cut reform for you…pictures of
mcconnel
ryan
trump

Your benefits (welfare, medicare, etc) will go down.
Your taxes will go up

guess whose taxes will go down: - images of
Clintons
Obamas
George Soros
George Clooney
Buffet
Moore, etc

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bill d. (b.d.)  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:47:02am

re: #234 Decatur Deb

A series of micro-ads, then per scottslemmons.

perfect, easy for us that the wingnuts hate almost everybody…

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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:47:42am

re: #234 Decatur Deb

A series of micro-ads, then per scottslemmons.

Already wrote that down in my notes. One major theme background with several different changes of images.

What does everyone think about using Rich Man Poor Man as the overall general theme and have that theme in all of the images even if only as a subtle background to keep a likeness to them all?

I wonder if Charles would want it associated with the blog???

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Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:47:53am

re: #239 bill d. (b.d.)

perfect, easy for us that the wingnuts hate almost everybody…

Even the Nuns on the Bus, but they don’t pay taxes.

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:48:50am

re: #237 ObserverArt

I agree. That is why I am thinking of a series too. But one in general with all characters and just one big headline can work as long as it appears as one collective image.

I see I am going to be busy. But if this helps, then damnit…time well spent.

The LGF Research Division should set about making a primary list of who we should use - the most hated liberal icons of all - and find out their income or net worth, then using the R tax bill, figure how much money they’d end up making.

This is a really good idea, IMO. It sure would piss off the wingnuts.

And a suggestion - we should brand any graphics with the LGF logo. Might as well drive some more traffic for Charles while we’re at it

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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:50:09am

re: #236 scottslemmons

Yes, when I say “fewer images,” I just mean, “Don’t fill your meme up with dozens of images and pages of tiny unreadable text.” Dozens of images and pages of tiny unreadable text are how the wingnuts do memes. :)

Well, I always try to go with the old art college education of Dominant, Sub Dominant and accent learned in two-dimensional design. You have to have focus.

Okay…gotta run. I’ll check back and then get to work later.

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:50:32am

even better:

The republican tax plan will:

Cut your benefits (welfare, medicare, etc)
Raise your taxes

Their taxes will go down, way down. … pictures of:
Clintons
Obamas
George Soros
George Clooney
Buffet
Moore, etc

(you’d have to caption the images)

my untaxed $0.02

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Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:51:27am

re: #242 makeitstop

The LGF Research Division should set about making a primary list of who we should use - the most hated liberal icons of all - and find out their income or net worth, then using the R tax bill, figure how much money they’d end up making.

This is a really good idea, IMO. It sure would piss off the wingnuts.

And a suggestion - we should brand any graphics with the LGF logo. Might as well drive some more traffic for Charles while we’re at it

Initial faces/cases should be very identifiable. Once the theme is established, less recognizable libs could be included.

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:51:47am

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

When they make the movie, Kate Blanchett can play Louise.

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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:52:34am

re: #242 makeitstop

The LGF Research Division should set about making a primary list of who we should use - the most hated liberal icons of all - and find out their income or net worth, then using the R tax bill, figure how much money they’d end up making.

This is a really good idea, IMO. It sure would piss off the wingnuts.

And a suggestion - we should brand any graphics with the LGF logo. Might as well drive some more traffic for Charles while we’re at it

I want Charles to give endorsement. I would never assume. It is too crazy out there…and he gets enough static.

If need be we could form some kind of a collective and give it a name.

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:54:51am

re: #247 ObserverArt

I want Charles to give endorsement. I would never assume. It is too crazy out there…and he gets enough static.

If need be we could form some kind of a collective and give it a name.

Lizards for Freedom! LOL

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Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:55:26am

re: #247 ObserverArt

I want Charles to give endorsement. I would never assume. It is too crazy out there…and he gets enough static.

If need be we could form some kind of a collective and give it a name.

Include an unnamed, shaded image of Trump, with the notation “Tax Data Not Available.”

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2017 • 8:57:15am

re: #245 Decatur Deb

Initial faces/cases should be very identifiable. Once the theme is established, less recognizable libs could be included.

Yes and I’d leave out the r’s.
If the goal is to enrage the wingers the pics should all be Dems.
Otherwise it waters down to some Dems get benefits so more on my team can

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2017 • 9:00:54am

re: #249 Decatur Deb

Include an unnamed, shaded image of Trump, with the notation “Tax Data Not Available.”

And any liberal shots should be the absolute happiest, smiling publicity shots.

Wingnuts hate happy liberals.

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2017 • 9:02:33am

re: #240 ObserverArt

Already wrote that down in my notes. One major theme background with several different changes of images.

What does everyone think about using Rich Man Poor Man as the overall general theme and have that theme in all of the images even if only as a subtle background to keep a likeness to them all?

I wonder if Charles would want it associated with the blog???

If you want to enrage the right then no. Rich man poor man changes it to a class/economic message.

You want outrage…”how dare they raise my taxes to pay off those rich dems”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2017 • 9:07:08am

O’Neill added another post Saturday afternoon that said he apologized if he offended anyone, “particularly the wonderful women in my life.” In an interview Saturday with The Associated Press, he said he didn’t regret what he wrote and that he edited the original post and then deleted it after an online commenter called him insensitive for including information that could identify some of the women.

Sunday brought yet another apology.

“I am sorry,” he wrote. “I have damaged the national debate on the very real subject of sexual harassment, abuse and unfortunately rape. It is not a laughing matter.”

O’Neill said during Saturday’s interview that his message was misunderstood and that his civil rights history shows he’s not an “insensitive misogynist.” He said he wrote the original post because “the sensitive subject of sexual harassment” has led people to treat Franken and Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore, a Republican, “in the exact same fashion.”

O’Neill is a major arse.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 19, 2017 • 9:15:58am

What treason is being cooked up while I sleep????

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Kilroy was here  Nov 19, 2017 • 9:17:18am

Number of seconds before this gets a do over….

White House: Trump would campaign for Moore if he didn’t believe accusers

Short repeatedly declined to answer “yes or no” when asked whether the president believes Moore’s accusers. He argued, however: “If he did not believe that the women’s accusations were credible, he would be down campaigning for Roy Moore.”

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2017 • 9:19:51am

re: #255 Kilroy was here

Number of seconds before this gets a do over….

White House: Trump would campaign for Moore if he didn’t believe accusers

Trump is just as a big creep as Moore is.

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BigPapa  Nov 19, 2017 • 9:25:50am

re: #254 Dave In Austin

What treason is being cooked up while I sleep????

So many treasons. The best treasons. You’re going to get sick of winning the treasons, let me tell you.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 19, 2017 • 9:29:53am

re: #255 Kilroy was here

Number of seconds before this gets a do over….

White House: Trump would campaign for Moore if he didn’t believe accusers

LOL yeah, they’ll walk that back lickety-split.

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retired cynic  Nov 19, 2017 • 9:31:58am

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

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O’Neill is a major arse.

His glasses are too tight. They’ve squished his brain.

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BigPapa  Nov 19, 2017 • 9:32:48am

Treason’s Greetings folks. Mueller’s making his list, he’s checking it twice. He wants to be sure who’s naughty and nice. More indictments coming to town.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 19, 2017 • 9:34:08am

Butthurt (Turkish butthurt, that is) incoming - brace yourselves.

The European Union will cut funds allocated to Turkey due to the “deteriorating situation in relation to democracy, rule of law and human rights” there, according to a European Parliament (EP) statement.

The bloc will shrink the so-called “pre-ascension funds” for Turkey by 105m euros ($124m) and suspend an additional 70m euros in the 2018 budget, the statement said on Saturday.

Ankara is entitled to receive 4.45 billion euros from the EU between 2014 and 2020 in the framework of the bloc’s “Instrument for Pre-accession Assistance”.

The Council of the EU and the EP, the two legislative institutions of the bloc, still need to formally approve the new budget.

“Concerning Turkey, MEPs made sure to cut pre-accession funds by 105 million euros (with a further €70 million in commitments put in reserve), as they consider the deteriorating situation in relation to democracy, rule of law and human rights worrying,” the statement by the EP said, referring to its members as MEPs.

Many of the EU member states have been in condemnation of the Turkish government’s arrests and purges of tens of thousands of people after a failed coup attempt in July 2016.

aljazeera.com

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darthstar  Nov 19, 2017 • 9:34:11am
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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2017 • 9:34:25am

re: #260 BigPapa

Treason’s Greetings folks. Mueller’s making his list, he’s checking it twice. He wants to be sure who’s naughty and nice. More indictments coming to town.

It sure would be nice to get another round of indictments to kick off the holiday season.

I’ve been a really good boy…

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retired cynic  Nov 19, 2017 • 9:34:31am

The trend toward blue state governors and blue city mayors taking on more of the outreach to the rest of the world on climate change (and now more) continues. I heard the LA mayor on NPR, extended interview, and dang, he sounds good.

washingtonpost.com

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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2017 • 9:36:07am

I understand what some are saying about keep the iamges all Democrat and liberal. Good point.

Keep in mind though…wingnuts now hate McConnell as much as any Dem. Ryan is heading there too.

So maybe a pure left side and then a bit different theme to pound on the righties the wingnuts hate.

I think it important to keep building separation in the right and keep their base hating on established Republicans.

Key word: Establishment Politicians.

Listen to the people in Alabama…they hate the GOP establishment pols like McConnell more than Clinton right now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2017 • 9:37:20am

re: #259 retired cynic

His glasses are too tight. They’ve squished his brain.

I don’t think his brain is anywhere near his glasses….

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 19, 2017 • 9:42:55am

re: #58 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

How many tickets did it cost the pup for those rides?

he got the doggie discount

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2017 • 9:44:06am

re: #265 ObserverArt

I think it important to keep building separation in the right and keep their base hating on established Republicans.

Key word: Establishment Politicians.

Listen to the people in Alabama…they hate the GOP establishment pols like McConnell more than Clinton right now.

The Tea Party always insisted that they were “independent” and hated all establishment politicians. The GOP nonetheless tried to co-opt them, but they wound up with a tiger by the tail.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2017 • 9:46:01am
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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2017 • 9:48:47am

re: #265 ObserverArt

I understand what some are saying about keep the iamges all Democrat and liberal. Good point.

Keep in mind though…wingnuts now hate McConnell as much as any Dem. Ryan is heading there too.

So maybe a pure left side and then a bit different theme to pound on the righties the wingnuts hate.

I think it important to keep building separation in the right and keep their base hating on established Republicans.

Key word: Establishment Politicians.

Listen to the people in Alabama…they hate the GOP establishment pols like McConnell more than Clinton right now.

I think no matter how much wingnuts hate McConnell and Ryan, they’ll always hate Clinton and Obama even more.

You’re looking at the Nihilist wing of the R party. There are plenty more Republicans who will put up with their dislike for Turtle, but will abide nothing less than blind hate for Hillary Clinton.

Save the establishment Rs for the second round, IMO.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 19, 2017 • 9:49:00am

re: #269 Backwoods_Sleuth

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darthstar  Nov 19, 2017 • 9:50:28am
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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2017 • 9:50:32am

re: #266 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t think his brain is anywhere near his glasses….

He’s been a decent justice and has been low key and out of the news pretty much his whole career. I have no idea why all of a sudden he has gone bonkers and did this to himself. It’s an own-goal for sure.

I don’t think he stands a chance in the Ohio governor’s race. There are much better candidates; Richard Cordray (not announced, but expected) and Betty Sutton (Ohio Rep in Sherrod Brown’s district and old job) to name two. There are many others to consider like my Congresswoman Joyce Beatty and former Columbus Mayor Michael Coleman should he give it a try.

All I know is Ohio needs to keep freaking Mike DeWine away from the seat and hopefully send the little ass to his retirement. And then there is John Husted…uggh.

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Skip Intro  Nov 19, 2017 • 9:51:08am

re: #122 jaunte

Decency? Republicans?

Lotsa luck.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 19, 2017 • 9:53:06am

re: #272 darthstar

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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2017 • 9:54:26am

re: #269 Backwoods_Sleuth

Rebecca Ballhaus ✔@rebeccaballhaus
Kushner lawyer says outreach by Putin ally Aleksander Torshin to Trump campaign came “before the words Putin or Russia were as politically charged or relevant in the campaign” wsj.com

Wait…did the lawyer just admit there was contact???

What kind of a good lawyer would even say this???

Hey, it helps the Mueller case…so…I guess I won’t complain. : )

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2017 • 9:55:01am

re: #275 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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Shut up you blockhead.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 19, 2017 • 9:55:07am

re: #272 darthstar

Trump racism something something…

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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2017 • 9:55:37am

re: #270 makeitstop

I think no matter how much wingnuts hate McConnell and Ryan, they’ll always hate Clinton and Obama even more.

You’re looking at the Nihilist wing of the R party. There are plenty more Republicans who will put up with their dislike for Turtle, but will abide nothing less than blind hate for Hillary Clinton.

Save the establishment Rs for the second round, IMO.

That’s kind of how I am thinking…keep them separate…go for the outrage of helping hated Democrats first.

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 19, 2017 • 9:56:08am

re: #276 ObserverArt

Kushner’s lawyer seems to have accidentally thrown him under the bus.

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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2017 • 9:58:21am

re: #272 darthstar

Sean McCabe @darthstar99
This is the President of the United States, calling out a random parent for not being grateful enough.


12:50 PM - Nov 19, 2017

Who just happens to be an uppity Black man.

Trump being Trump.

Plus I saw where LaVar was quoted as saying “who” when asked about Trump helping out. He played down the whole help thing from Trump on ESPN.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 19, 2017 • 9:59:15am

Since special counsel has asked more info we are going to see more of this.

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:00:06am

re: #276 ObserverArt

Wait…did the lawyer just admit there was contact???

What kind of a good lawyer would even say this???

Hey, it helps the Mueller case…so…I guess I won’t complain. : )

We’re way beyond denials at this point. Everybody with half a brain knows what happened. All that’s left is to see who goes to prison.

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:00:18am

re: #264 retired cynic

The trend toward blue state governors and blue city mayors taking on more of the outreach to the rest of the world on climate change (and now more) continues. I heard the LA mayor on NPR, extended interview, and dang, he sounds good.

washingtonpost.com

Move some up to governor, and onto president.

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:02:47am

re: #279 ObserverArt

That’s kind of how I am thinking…keep them separate…go for the outrage of helping hated Democrats first.

Definitely. That will strike the nerve that needs it. There’s no way Rs could justify this to their base.

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Skip Intro  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:04:13am

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

They haven’t gone public enough IMO. I finally saw one in the back of the WaPo today but no where else. Should be front page material.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:06:21am

Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address
154 years ago today.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:08:07am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:12:32am

of course, he did

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:12:59am

re: #289 Backwoods_Sleuth

of course, he did

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Incapable of even doing the little things right.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:14:18am

re: #289 Backwoods_Sleuth

He does not understand science so there is no need for a fair.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:15:08am

re: #291 PhillyPretzel

He does not understand science so there is no need for a fair.

betcha they canned it because there were going to be reports on climate change and alternative energy…

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:15:34am

re: #292 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

betcha they canned it because there were going to be reports on climate change and alternative energy…

Wouldn’t shock me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:15:40am

re: #292 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

betcha they canned it because there were going to be reports on climate change and alternative energy…

and kids who are way smarter than potus*

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:15:52am

re: #292 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Most likely the case.

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meteor  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:16:12am

Watford beat West Ham 2-0.

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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:16:34am

re: #292 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

betcha they canned it because there were going to be reports on climate change and alternative energy…

…and how coal leads to unclean air and breathing problems.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:16:36am

re: #296 meteor

Watford beat West Ham 2-0.

watford beats meat

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allegro  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:16:37am

re: #292 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

betcha they canned it because there were going to be reports on climate change and alternative energy…

More likely because no one wanted to come to the Trump WH to participate. It would be an embarrassment. That’s the only thing that motivates that child.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:18:16am

re: #287 HappyWarrior

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154 years ago today.

I grew up 8 miles from Gettysburg. The whole place was lousy with Lincoln stuff - there was the room in what had been a hotel then (but was now a Rexall drug store) where he stayed, there was the Lincoln Train Museum (complete with a little room like a rail car that rocked gently as a film played), and probably lots of other stuff I’ve forgotten. In 6th grade, all the boys had to memorize the “Gettysburg Address”, and the best reciter would recite it at the Memorial Day ceremony in the local cemetery (the girls all memorized “Flanders Fields”).

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Dr Lizardo  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:18:21am

Time to call it a day. Have a good one, Lizards.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:18:44am
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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:19:21am

re: #296 meteor

Watford beat West Ham 2-0.

Cleveland Browns currently in the process of beating themselves. Again.

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allegro  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:19:38am

So where did the myth that cats are finicky eaters come from? I have two kits stealing bowtie alfredo pasta from my plate. Grab and run. Heh. They love this stuff.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:19:41am

re: #300 Blind Frog Belly White

I grew up 8 miles from Gettysburg. The whole place was lousy with Lincoln stuff - there was the room in what had been a hotel then (but was now a Rexall drug store) where he stayed, there was the Lincoln Train Museum (complete with a little room like a rail car that rocked gently as a film played), and probably lots of other stuff I’ve forgotten. In 6th grade, all the boys had to memorize the “Gettysburg Address”, and the best reciter would recite it at the Memorial Day ceremony in the local cemetery (the girls all memorized “Flanders Fields”).

I think it’s the best speech ever given by an American president personally. Flanders Fields is a beautiful poem too. Was there this summer.

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:20:42am

Further thoughts on The Project…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:23:07am

re: #305 HappyWarrior

I think it’s the best speech ever given by an American president personally. Flanders Fields is a beautiful poem too. Was there this summer.

One of my mom’s uncles is buried in Flanders Field.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:23:59am

re: #307 Backwoods_Sleuth

One of my mom’s uncles in buried in Flanders Field.

My dad’s father had a cousin that served in France during the war.

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:25:42am

re: #304 allegro

So where did the myth that cats are finicky eaters come from? I have two kits stealing bowtie alfredo pasta from my plate. Grab and run. Heh. They love this stuff.

We’ve got three cats, and for each meal I split half a can of wet food between them (they also have bowls of dry food). On any given day, they’ll love the first half of the can and eat it all up, then turn their noses up at the second half. Or they’ll turn up their noses at the fresh canned food and then eat the second half of the can like it was the best food ever.

No rhyme, no reason. They’re cats.

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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:26:03am

re: #306 makeitstop

Further thoughts on The Project…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:27:25am

re: #305 HappyWarrior

I think it’s the best speech ever given by an American president personally. Flanders Fields is a beautiful poem too. Was there this summer.

The problem I have with Flanders Fields is that although it humanizes the dead soldiers

Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

the very next line tells the living to keep fighting what was the most useless, destructive war in history:

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch;

Once I studied WWI and its causes and outcomes, that part always bothered me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:27:56am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:31:03am
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PhillyPretzel  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:31:15am

It looks like my MacBook is almost done with its update.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:33:59am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:34:19am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:34:38am

re: #316 Charles Johnson

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What the fuck have they compromised on?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:35:03am

re: #316 Charles Johnson

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BeachDem  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:37:11am

re: #273 ObserverArt

He’s been a decent justice and has been low key and out of the news pretty much his whole career. I have no idea why all of a sudden he has gone bonkers and did this to himself. It’s an own-goal for sure.

I don’t think he stands a chance in the Ohio governor’s race. There are much better candidates; Richard Cordray (not announced, but expected) and Betty Sutton (Ohio Rep in Sherrod Brown’s district and old job) to name two. There are many others to consider like my Congresswoman Joyce Beatty and former Columbus Mayor Michael Coleman should he give it a try.

All I know is Ohio needs to keep freaking Mike DeWine away from the seat and hopefully send the little ass to his retirement. And then there is John Husted…uggh.

I read somewhere that O’Neill said he wouldn’t even run if Cordray announced, so there’s that. I’m right there with you on keeping DeWine and Husted as far away from the governorship as possible.

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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:40:01am

You know, lately there has been very little mention of General Kelly…the man with the task. Is he still around? Has everyone figured out he is as bad as Trump? Or, has The Big Don kneecapped him to keep him out of the picture?

He was getting a lot of press…that is never good for Donny’s ego.

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:41:55am

re: #272 darthstar

This is the President of the United States, calling out a random parent for not being grateful enough

i’ve been saying this for months

the president of the entire united states targets individual citizens in his official capacity using the assets and power of his office

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Renaissance_Man  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:42:31am

re: #318 I Would Prefer Not To

What the fuck have they compromised on?

Allowing liberals to live or walk free in the streets.

Not snark.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:43:08am

re: #322 dangerman

He is acting like the ultimate bully.

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BeachDem  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:43:22am

re: #302 Charles Johnson

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:44:37am
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dangerman  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:46:37am

re: #309 makeitstop

We’ve got three cats, and for each meal I split half a can of wet food between them (they also have bowls of dry food). On any given day, they’ll love the first half of the can and eat it all up, then turn their noses up at the second half. Or they’ll turn up their noses at the fresh canned food and then eat the second half of the can like it was the best food ever.

No rhyme, no reason. They’re cats.

bolded because the overlords told me to

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Charles Johnson  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:48:10am

re: #325 BeachDem

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:48:39am
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Eventual Carrion  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:49:27am

re: #196 lawhawk

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I can picture him with his tongue hanging out the side of his mouth as he wrote his name.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:50:40am
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Skip Intro  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:50:51am

You could have bought this modest Sunnyvale house for a mere $2.47 million, or only $800,000 above asking price.

This is why the super rich need a big tax cut.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:54:36am

Ahh. That is better. My MacBook is updated. And I am back on the regular keyboard and not typing on glass.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:55:07am
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Nyet  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:55:08am
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BeachDem  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:57:44am

re: #328 Charles Johnson

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calochortus  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:58:10am

re: #315 PhillyPretzel

It looks like my MacBook is almost done with its update.

I can’t make my update. Sigh.
I’ll just trot it down to the Apple Store and let them deal with a Luddite old lady’s computer.

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stpaulbear  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:58:55am

After watching the Gettysburg Address, I started following some of the other YouTube suggestions and came to this clip of Ken Burns on CNN talking about how dangerous a Trump presidency would be. It seemed like it was worth revisiting here.

Historian Ken Burns denounces Donald Trump

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:59:04am

re: #337 calochortus

That is what I do when it will not update at home.

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JordanRules  Nov 19, 2017 • 10:59:49am
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DodgerFan1988  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:00:10am

A glimmer of hope. The Zimbabwean Trump resigns after 37 years of iron fisted rule.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:00:23am

re: #338 stpaulbear

Thank you Ken Burns.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:00:47am
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BeachDem  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:00:54am

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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:01:13am
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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:02:18am

I put up a crappy video of the SNL opening last night. Here is the official version from NBC. Thought some might like to see it if you didn’t.

Iframe

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:04:12am
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Kilroy was here  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:05:30am

Mrs. Betty Bowers, America’s Best Christian doing what she does best:

Judge Roy Moore’s Sunday School Singalong

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:06:30am

So Sean’s replacing all those smashed keurigs

So it’s not an idiotic “boycott”
They’ve doubled down on the stupid
It’s idiotic two times over

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:11:04am

re: #340 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

That there is a demonstration of lost income and ensuing panic

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:14:59am

re: #343 Blind Frog Belly White

They’re both irrelevant and responsible for all society’s ills.

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stpaulbear  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:17:14am

Another great Ken Burns interview:

Ken Burns: Trump divides us. Sanders does too.

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:17:27am

re: #287 HappyWarrior

[Embedded content]

154 years ago today.

On today, 48 years ago, two things happened: the Apollo 12 landed, and I was born.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:17:45am

re: #332 Skip Intro

You could have bought this modest Sunnyvale house for a mere $2.47 million, or only $800,000 above asking price.

[Embedded content]

This is why the super rich need a big tax cut.

New, that place prolly went for $75K back in the day. That home is at least 25 yrs old,

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FormerDirtDart  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:18:21am

Oh, this should be fun

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:19:06am

re: #353 Belafon

Happy Birthday. :)

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Dave In Austin  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:20:05am

re: #355 FormerDirtDart

Oh, this should be fun

[Embedded content]

I see her on a national ticket in the near future (not TS….).

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:20:45am
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allegro  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:23:01am

re: #355 FormerDirtDart

Oh, this should be fun

[Embedded content]

I get the San Juan mayor being on the list but Taylor Swift? WTF?

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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:23:23am

-mistake post-

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:23:55am

re: #271 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

[Embedded content]

That guy was a law abiding gun owner right up until, you know, he started shooting all those people.

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I cannot.  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:24:11am

re: #359 allegro

Higher on the list than Trump at least…

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stpaulbear  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:25:16am

re: #353 Belafon

On today, 48 years ago, two things happened: the Apollo 12 landed, and I was born.

Any chance you were the second child? Then you’d have something else in common.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:25:18am

re: #352 stpaulbear

Another great Ken Burns interview:

[Embedded content]

He’s right about Bernie.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:26:04am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:26:44am
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stpaulbear  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:27:59am

re: #365 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump thinks that property crimes are much worse than sex crimes. Property is the only thing that matters.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:27:59am

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yet you still talk about Clinton….Gah such a pathetic joke.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:28:34am
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makeitstop  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:28:36am

re: #359 allegro

I get the San Juan mayor being on the list but Taylor Swift? WTF?

2017 Where a marginal pop talent is more worthy of PoTY than the president.
/

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:30:19am

re: #369 Charles Johnson

I saw Debbie Dingell on MTP but other than that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:33:12am
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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:36:09am

re: #372 Backwoods_Sleuth

But somehow the left are elites.//

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calochortus  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:36:17am

re: #367 stpaulbear

Trump thinks that property crimes are much worse than sex crimes. Property is the only thing that matters.

But aren’t women property too?
/

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:39:34am

re: #373 HappyWarrior

But somehow the left are elites.//

“Elites” refers not to actual elites, but rather to the folks who left their small towns to go to college and then came back and got better jobs than Trumpkins did, sometimes as their supervisors.

The stinking rich fully deserve their wealth because… Well, I’m not really sure.

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:40:40am

re: #326 FormerDirtDart

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Skip Intro  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:40:53am

re: #354 Dave In Austin

New, that place prolly went for $75K back in the day. That home is at least 25 yrs old,

$27,500 50 years ago.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:41:32am

re: #375 Blind Frog Belly White

“Elites” refers not to actual elites, but rather to the folks who left their small towns to go to college and then came back and got better jobs than Trumpkins did, sometimes as their supervisors.

The stinking rich fully deserve their wealth because… Well, I’m not really sure.

Babbitt

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:41:41am

re: #375 Blind Frog Belly White

“Elites” refers not to actual elites, but rather to the folks who left their small towns to go to college and then came back and got better jobs than Trumpkins did, sometimes as their supervisors.

The stinking rich fully deserve their wealth because… Well, I’m not really sure.

Yep.

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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:41:45am

re: #366 Backwoods_Sleuth

Media Matters ✔@mmfa
Fox host wonders why news outlets are talking about sexual misconduct allegations against Trump: “We had an election after that. And he won.” mm4a.org

This seems to be the newest GOP must-follow talking point. It started with Sarah Sanders Hucklebumble the other day and is now all they are saying.

Trump never admitted he touched anyone and Franken did. Franken is a criminal.

Plus the people (electoral college) elected Trump and knew of the allegations so he was exonerated.

Which of course is the same thing they are doing with Moore. Let Alabama decide if Roy is exonerated by the voters to represent Alabama and the GOP.

All those good Alabama Christians will be casting their votes stones.

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HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:42:30am

re: #376 Belafon

He views himself how Putin and Duterte do not how Obama and even W Bush did.

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Belafon  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:42:34am

re: #363 stpaulbear

Any chance you were the second child? Then you’d have something else in common.

That would have been pretty funny, but I’m the oldest.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:43:38am
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Belafon  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:44:30am

re: #380 ObserverArt

This seems to be the newest GOP must-follow talking point. It started with Sarah Sanders Hucklebumble the other day and is now all they are saying.

Trump never admitted he touched anyone and Franken did. Franken is a criminal.

Plus the people (electoral college) elected Trump and knew of the allegations so he was exonerated.

Which of course is the same thing they are doing with Moore. Let Alabama decide if Roy is exonerated by the voters to represent Alabama and the GOP.

All those good Alabama Christians will be casting their votes stones.

Bill Clinton was elected twice.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:44:43am

re: #377 Skip Intro

$27,500 50 years ago.

Houses out here that are selling for > $1 Million were selling for ~$70K in the 1970s, and ~$200K in the 1980s.

386
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:48:15am

I used to breed ball pythons. The worst that happened to me was when a 6’ snake mistook my hand for a rat, struck and constricted both of my hands. I had to wriggle one hand free, then carefully peel it off the other as the chewed on my hand the whole time. It sucked, and I bled a lot, and had to remove a couple of teeth from hy hand with tweezers. You couldn’t pay me enough to work with venomous snakes.

387
stpaulbear  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:48:19am

re: #374 calochortus

But aren’t women property too?
/

Yep. Definitely.

388
ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:48:19am

re: #384 Belafon

Bill Clinton was elected twice.

Bill Clinton is a Democrat.

That “TRUMPs” everything.

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Dave In Austin  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:49:45am

re: #385 Blind Frog Belly White

Houses out here that are selling for > $1 Million were selling for ~$70K in the 1970s, and ~$200K in the 1980s.

I get lost on time these days…… 64 next month and my mind keeps telling me different.

390
FormerDirtDart  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:49:52am

re: #372 Backwoods_Sleuth

yep, not even trying to pretend

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:51:30am
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Charles Johnson  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:53:44am
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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:55:20am

re: #391 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Ouch!

Trump Lives Matter

(More than anyone else’s)

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Charles Johnson  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:57:25am
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PhillyPretzel  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:59:32am

I am back on my iPad. I forgot to back up the MacBook. :(

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Charles Johnson  Nov 19, 2017 • 11:59:52am

Even when I make it clear I’m not approving of what Franken did, there are still dickheads who want to attack me.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 19, 2017 • 12:02:40pm

re: #396 Charles Johnson

Even when I make it clear I’m not approving of what Franken did, there are still dickheads who want to attack me.

The tribal, propagandized, far-right will attack anyone who tells the truth. Truth conflicts with their cherished beliefs so it makes them angry. We saw how pissed off they got when Fox News told them the truth about Uranium One. They want all bullshit like Hannity all the time.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 19, 2017 • 12:03:55pm

re: #397 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

The tribal, propagandized, far-right will attack anyone who tells the truth. Truth conflicts with their cherished beliefs so it makes them angry. We saw how pissed off they got when Fox News told them the truth about Uranium One. They want all bullshit like Hannity all the time.

This guy seems to be a left wing puritopian type.

399
Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 19, 2017 • 12:04:30pm

re: #398 Charles Johnson

This guy seems to be a left wing puritopian type.

Just as bad.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 19, 2017 • 12:06:18pm
401
jaunte  Nov 19, 2017 • 12:07:19pm

Why do they bring hacks like Amy Kremer on to comment on these stories?

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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2017 • 12:10:12pm

re: #398 Charles Johnson

This guy seems to be a left wing puritopian type.

re: #399 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Just as bad.

I mentioned the other day I think this is all part of what the internet has brought to discussion.

Remember how long ago the term ‘flame wars’ came about?

Facebook and Twitter make it more effective. Much bigger audience for people to get their dig/burn/flame/ seen.

It is all about the comeback and it does not matter if the comeback is in context or makes sense and had factual support.

It’s all about “I got over on the Little Green Football guy.” Score 1 - 0.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2017 • 12:11:51pm

re: #402 ObserverArt

Not to mention “is this the hill you’ve chosen to die on” has zero content as an argument.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2017 • 12:12:30pm

“How dare you?”

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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2017 • 12:14:11pm

re: #401 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Why do they bring hacks like Amy Kremer on to comment on these stories?

Pretty obvious they want to push a certain view of the story.

And why? Because this teases America where they like it most: a sex reality show with celebs and politicians.

Hell, the whole damn election was just that in many ways,

406
Decatur Deb  Nov 19, 2017 • 12:14:44pm

re: #400 Charles Johnson

An electrical engineer found himself in the chair for killing a chemical engineer. The switch was thrown and nothing happened. After the guards fumbled around for ten minutes, he blurted: “You have to change out the dead solenoid in the control circuit.” They did, and it worked.

Moral of the story—

1) EEs are too married to their craft.
2) Some people can’t STFU when it serves their best interest.

407
Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2017 • 12:16:36pm
408
HappyWarrior  Nov 19, 2017 • 12:17:49pm

re: #407 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why it’s almost like they’re bigots.

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jaunte  Nov 19, 2017 • 12:19:09pm
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2017 • 12:19:15pm

re: #331 Charles Johnson

Mnuchin: ‘I didn’t realize’ viral dollar bill photo would go public

This indicates that he does not realize that he is a public servant performing an official function. This is not how things function in the corporate world where he is much more at home.

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BigPapa  Nov 19, 2017 • 12:21:04pm

I’m old enough to remember all the knuckleheads that thought it was a great idea to have businessmen run the government. Because they’re businessmen.

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SteveMcGriftFlynnComey... ...corruptemoligate RN  Nov 19, 2017 • 12:23:13pm

re: #411 BigPapa

My response to that logic is that government does the things that businesses don’t.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2017 • 12:24:56pm

re: #412 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

My response to that logic is that government does the things that businesses don’t cannot reasonably be entrusted with.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 19, 2017 • 12:25:04pm

re: #411 BigPapa

re: #412 SteveMcGriftFlynnComey… …corruptemoligate RN

Leave to government what is the government’s. Leave to business what is business.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 19, 2017 • 12:27:00pm

re: #414 PhillyPretzel

Leave to government what is the government’s. Leave to business what is business.

Business looks on things like personnel costs, safety, environment and education as overhead costs to be trimmed to a minimum to maximize profits.

Government looks on them as investments that benefit everyone and improve the quality of life and our society.

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ObserverArt  Nov 19, 2017 • 12:28:01pm

re: #414 PhillyPretzel

Leave to government what is the government’s. Leave to business what is business.

Would that be better as: Leave to government what is of and for the people. Leave to business what is business.

And leave religion out of it completely.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2017 • 12:28:53pm
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CleverToad  Nov 19, 2017 • 12:29:19pm

re: #312 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

That creature is straight out of Edward Gorey!

Dancing Cats
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jeffreyw  Nov 19, 2017 • 12:34:06pm

re: #232 jeffreyw

Well
That was an adventure.
Did the reset but found out it borked my Eye-Fi X-2 cards and they are no longer supported. Couldn’t re-register them to get them working even locally.
Restored from an image, pre-emptively uninstalled Chrome Canary, Firefox 57 and Firefox ESR
Eye-Fi is back! New E-F Mobi cards were $70 each and I didn’t want to go there, most of my food pics are via cell camera and the PhotoSync app is what I use to get them to my NAS.
Still have a couple of year’s worth of cruft accumulation.
Making a new system image so I can get back to now in case of future rot.

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sagehen  Nov 19, 2017 • 12:37:34pm

re: #411 BigPapa

I’m old enough to remember all the knuckleheads that thought it was a great idea to have businessmen run the government. Because they’re businessmen.

Businessmen can be counted on to run the business in the way that best enriches themselves, at the expense of stockholders/employees/retirees/even the long-term viability of the business.

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dangerman  Nov 19, 2017 • 1:47:07pm

re: #380 ObserverArt

This seems to be the newest GOP must-follow talking point. It started with Sarah Sanders Hucklebumble the other day and is now all they are saying.

Trump never admitted he touched anyone and Franken did. Franken is a criminal.

Plus the people (electoral college) elected Trump and knew of the allegations so he was exonerated.

Which of course is the same thing they are doing with Moore. Let Alabama decide if Roy is exonerated by the voters to represent Alabama and the GOP.

All those good Alabama Christians will be casting their votes stones.

Winning an election absolves you of criminality?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Nov 19, 2017 • 1:55:59pm

re: #421 dangerman

America has spoken. It’s OK for white, Republican, men to sexually assault women.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 19, 2017 • 1:59:33pm

re: #421 dangerman

Winning an election absolves you of criminality?

apparently

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darthstar  Nov 20, 2017 • 4:59:29am

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