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JordanRules  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:03:00pm
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freetoken  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:04:24pm

re: #1 JordanRules

$5 million seems a bit high to pay for a couple of nights of sex.

Just sayin…

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JordanRules  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:05:26pm

re: #2 freetoken

It’s for the 9 months with child too.

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JordanRules  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:06:29pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:06:32pm
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Decatur Deb  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:07:19pm

re: #2 freetoken

$5 million seems a bit high to pay for a couple of nights of sex.

Just sayin…

Depends on the effectiveness of the contraceptive.

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Amory Blaine  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:08:38pm

Any solicitation for sex could be portrayed as an offer for surrogacy.

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Amory Blaine  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:11:36pm

“Honest officer! I was checking her out for surrogacy!!”

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BlueGrl21  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:12:23pm

re: #1 JordanRules

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The icky creep factor on Franks is way, way, way out of the stratosphere.

Also makes is very clear he considers us breeders, not much else. These were, I presume, somewhat intelligent female Congressional staff members being asked to carry a child for him.

The old fashioned way.

ICK. BLECH. Nope, nope, nope.

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JordanRules  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:13:56pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:14:25pm

Is there anyone in the world who actually likes auto-playing videos on news sites? On YouTube, no problem. On news sites and other sites, annoying as hell.

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Amory Blaine  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:16:32pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Absolutely hate it. USA Today bought the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel and they do it all the time now.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:17:02pm

re: #9 BlueGrl21

The icky creep factor on Franks is way, way, way out of the stratosphere.

Also makes is very clear he considers us breeders, not much else. These were, I presume, somewhat intelligent female Congressional staff members being asked to carry a child for him.

The old fashioned way.

ICK. BLECH. Nope, nope, nope.

That was how I saw it too. What a creep.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:17:04pm
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Kragar  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:17:23pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Is there anyone in the world who actually likes auto-playing videos on news sites? On YouTube, no problem. On news sites and other sites, annoying as hell.

Autoplay on any site not dedicated to playing videos is the DEVIL.

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dangerman  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:18:12pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

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“if hillary had not lost….”

she did

next

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JordanRules  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:18:25pm
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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:18:52pm

re: #2 freetoken

$5 million seems a bit high to pay for a couple of nights of sex.

Just sayin…

SOB probably shoots blanks…… LET’S KEEP TRYING!!

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:19:26pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

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Newt still has bills to pay, I presume.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:19:39pm

Off to do a little work…for SATAN.

BBL

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Charles Johnson  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:19:51pm
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JordanRules  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:21:15pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:22:53pm

re: #17 JordanRules

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Sadly not a rare opinion.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:23:27pm

re: #16 dangerman

“if hillary had not lost….”

she did

next

They wish she had won. Defending the indefensible is harder.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:23:52pm

re: #22 JordanRules

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“Indecent Proposal” starring Trent Franks. Rotten Tomatoes gives it a 0% favorability rating.

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A Mom Anon  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:24:49pm

re: #22 JordanRules

I really hope his wife is OK. I doubt she was consulted about this.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:24:49pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Is there anyone in the world who actually likes auto-playing videos on news sites? On YouTube, no problem. On news sites and other sites, annoying as hell.

ESPN started doing it. Gah. It basically says “Our site’s annoying. Don’t come to it.”

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:26:36pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:27:57pm

re: #26 A Mom Anon

I really hope his wife is OK. I doubt she was consulted about this.

I doubt too especially if she’s sick. Franks is yet another goo hypocrite busted.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:29:23pm
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JordanRules  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:30:33pm

re: #26 A Mom Anon

They have a history with fertility issues and surrogacy so it’s a really curious situation.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:31:48pm

Wow! The latest Trent Franks bombshell makes me wonder just how bad this GOP freak show is going to get before it finally ends. This is what comes from allowing the political system to fall into the hands of people whose stated beliefs are little better than rank superstition by any rational standard. The local witch doctor is scamming us? Whoduthunkit?

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:33:12pm
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mmmirele  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:33:34pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Is there anyone in the world who actually likes auto-playing videos on news sites? On YouTube, no problem. On news sites and other sites, annoying as hell.

Hate hate hate hate it. At work, I can’t use the neato-keen feature of Chrome to click on the offending tab and shut off the noise. Instead I either have to turn off my computer’s sound, close the window suddenly to shut off the sound or just not go to news websites.

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scottslemmons  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:33:38pm

re: #32 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Wow! The latest Trent Franks bombshell makes me wonder just how bad this GOP freak show is going to get before it finally ends. This is what comes from allowing the political system to fall into the hands of people whose stated beliefs are little better than rank superstition by any rational standard. The local witch doctor is scamming us? Whoduthunkit?

I’ve been suspecting it’s only a matter of time before a GOP legislator or candidate gets caught with a basement full of dead kids — and still get reelected.

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makeitstop  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:34:21pm

Damn it, deleted tweet. Sorry.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:34:57pm

re: #35 scottslemmons

I’ve been suspecting it’s only a matter of time before a GOP legislator or candidate gets caught with a basement full of dead kids — and still get reelected.

I can see Trump now saying so and so is tough on crime.

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:37:53pm

re: #22 JordanRules

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:38:06pm

With all the high-profile grabbers, pinchers, and molesters on the grill, I’m glad to see that lower ranking perverts aren’t being overlooked in the great roundup of 2017:

Air National Guard member accused of taking explicit photos of females in locker rooms at Massachusetts base

It’s actually worse than the headline:

Venne was charged with four counts of secret surveillance, two counts of possession of child pornography, and two counts of posing/exhibiting a child in a nude/lascivious pose.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:38:12pm

re: #35 scottslemmons

I’ve been suspecting it’s only a matter of time before a GOP legislator or candidate gets caught with a basement full of dead kids — and still get reelected.

“So, can you PROVE he did something illegal?”

///

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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:38:26pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Gannett publishing (owns USAT, North Jersey, etc.) sucks royally for autoplaying everything they push. It makes it impossible to want to visit. It’s like they’ve gone out of their way to make as unpleasing an experience visiting to get news as possible.

They have hit upon the perfect strategy to get people to ignore the news they produce and kill the value of their websites by autorunning those videos.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:39:01pm

re: #40 Sir John Barron

“So, can you PROVE he did something illegal?”

///

NYT:? Bill Clinton once saw a dead body.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:40:13pm

re: #35 scottslemmons

I’ve been suspecting it’s only a matter of time before a GOP legislator or candidate gets caught with a basement full of dead kids — and still get reelected.

You libtards got no proof! All your witnesses are dead!

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jeffreyw  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:41:32pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Hate that shit. I’m stuck here is the boonies at the ass end of a long ADSL loop and I don’t have the bandwidth to wait 2 minutes watching the loading wheel spin for 30 seconds of video. They are often as not failing to provide a transcript that I could read and be done in 10.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:42:14pm
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Ace-o-aces  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:45:00pm
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Ace Rothstein  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:45:06pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

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dangerman  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:45:34pm

re: #18 bill d. (b.d.)

SOB probably shoots blanks…… LET’S KEEP TRYING!!

ive been thinking this for two days
did not want to be the one to say it out loud

it just gets creepier….

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darthstar  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:46:18pm
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makeitstop  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:46:33pm

re: #46 Ace-o-aces

Looks like Sean Hannity is about to be implicated in the #TrumpRussia probe.

I fucking knew. I hope that putz loses his goddamn shirt.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:47:37pm

re: #50 makeitstop

I fucking knew. I hope that putz loses his goddamn shirt.

eeeeewwwww, no. please.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:48:17pm

re: #46 Ace-o-aces

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He needs to be ruined for what he put that family through.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:48:34pm

re: #46 Ace-o-aces

The story’s from last August.

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scottslemmons  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:48:52pm

re: #40 Sir John Barron

“So, can you PROVE he did something illegal?”

///

Those kids were no angels.

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allegro  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:48:58pm

With the temps in Houston today risen to a balmy 43 degrees after a day of rain and night of snow (!) I decided to warm up the innards with a dinner of macaroni and cheese with bacon and chilis and home-made minestrone. Add toasted English muffins and dessert of pumpkin pie tarts. Soup is simmering now and my house smells sooo yummy.

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dangerman  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:50:35pm

re: #24 HappyWarrior

They wish she had won. Defending the indefensible is harder.

oh sure
all things being equal we know that most of what they’d be hammering her for would not be true or would be the most twisted spin possible.

trump et al are being hammered for what they do. i.e. their actual actions.
lgf:
the cabinet
education
civil rights
racism
supreme court
federal judges
department of energy
coal
the state of the state department and our foreign relations
the tax bill
ryans stated medicare/medicaid cuts for 2018 (to fix that deficit)
EPA
national parks
russiagate
jerusalem
and now wells fargo
let alone gaffe after gaffe after…
etc etc etc

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darthstar  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:51:20pm

re: #46 Ace-o-aces

Hannity is about the stupidest person they could have colluded with in this shit fest. I’m surprised Putin hasn’t started doing mercy killings on Trump’s behalf. And Hannity’s stupid enough to publicly state shit on his show that will be used against him…and others.

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dangerman  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:51:24pm

re: #29 HappyWarrior

I doubt too especially if she’s sick. Franks is yet another goo hypocrite busted.

honey, cover me….

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:51:44pm

re: #55 allegro

Woke up this morning (Conroe) and my backyard was all white.

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darthstar  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:52:03pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

The story’s from last August.

Aw…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:52:41pm

re: #35 scottslemmons

I’ve been suspecting it’s only a matter of time before a GOP legislator or candidate gets caught with a basement full of dead kids — and still get reelected.

DesJarlais…

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ipsos  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:53:06pm

re: #41 lawhawk

Gannett publishing (owns USAT, North Jersey, etc.) sucks royally for autoplaying everything they push. It makes it impossible to want to visit. It’s like they’ve gone out of their way to make as unpleasing an experience visiting to get news as possible.

They have hit upon the perfect strategy to get people to ignore the news they produce and kill the value of their websites by autorunning those videos.

Don’t forget about the part where they deliberately drive away loyal print readers by spiking subscription rates through the roof while making deadlines earlier and the print products ever thinner and more useless.

They have a very sophisticated multi-platform suckage strategy.

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dangerman  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:53:16pm

re: #33 FormerDirtDart

US policy:

• Jerusalem is part of Israel

• Is being part of Israel is the same as being *in* Israel? We are neutral on this and cannot say.

• East Jerusalem is part of Jerusalem, but not part of Israel, even though Jerusalem is part of Israel

Got it?

c.f. the current admin re: Puerto Rico

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dangerman  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:53:59pm

re: #35 scottslemmons

I’ve been suspecting it’s only a matter of time before a GOP legislator or candidate gets caught with a basement full of dead kids — and still get reelected.

look it all happened over 40 years ago….

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:54:27pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

The story’s from last August.

DAMMIT!

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darthstar  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:55:40pm

BTW, I said if Franken resigned he should run for his seat again - because he will have paid the price already so coming back SHOULDN’T be a problem ( but he’s a Democrat, so it will). On Tweety’s show, one of his guests pointed out that 2/3 of elected officials who resign(in disgrace or otherwise) and then return have won their seats back.

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dangerman  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:56:07pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

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its not often i actually, spontaneously lol
i lol’d

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:56:20pm

re: #1 JordanRules

[Embedded content]

posted at the end of the last thread…

wondering how much he would be willing to pay a sperm donor to have intercourse with his wife if the reproductive problem was at his end, so to speak…

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dangerman  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:58:31pm

re: #47 Ace Rothstein

Who are you?

Billy Batts
@BillyBatts1970
Who, who. Who, who.

in that case it’s “who the fuck are you?”
from down near the last chorus

(ok im done)

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Stanley Sea  Dec 8, 2017 • 1:59:42pm

re: #43 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

You libtards got no proof! All your witnesses are dead!

They’ve been dead 40 years!

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Sir John Barron  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:00:48pm

re: #70 Stanley Sea

They’ve been dead 40 years!

the dead were planted by Soros.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:02:10pm

re: #53 Charles Johnson

The story’s from last August.

Dworkin….

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darthstar  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:02:47pm

So, in addition to not inviting April Ryan because she’s black, the Trump White House has also not invited any LGBT reporters.

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ipsos  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:04:11pm

re: #68 Backwoods_Sleuth

posted at the end of the last thread…

wondering how much he would be willing to pay a sperm donor to have intercourse with his wife if the reproductive problem was at his end, so to speak…

Depends.

Does he get to watch?

//ish

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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:04:19pm

Observations on the Trent Frank horrorshow:

1. VOMITING FOREVER.

2. Note the pre-emptive resignation came paired with critical omission of detail. Expect this in future.

3. This is a prime fucking example of how a culture of sexual “purity” and fetishization of reproduction as the value of women perfectly dovetails with predatory behavior. “Male” authority figures get to discount the autonomy of women—“consent” emanates from the nearest male authority figure, but what if you have “authority” because you have social and spiritual capital… (a dick is also a major part of this calculation). Not a coincidence. Entirely in sync with the way sex abuse plays out in churches, reparative therapy camps, et cetera et cetera et cetera.

4. That the proposition was framed in terms of reproduction doe not mean that (a) it isn’t a sexualized abuse of power, (b) that he wasn’t getting off on it. “Acquire permanent bond to woman by impregnating her” is standard, if horrifying, intersection of erotism and power. Foucaultian power/sex dystopia is definitely a fucking thing now.

5. Double down bet: his wife had zero fucking clue about this “surrogacy” offer.

6. STILL VOMITIING.

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ObserverArt  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:05:12pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Is there anyone in the world who actually likes auto-playing videos on news sites? On YouTube, no problem. On news sites and other sites, annoying as hell.

Not a big fan of all the flyouts from top sides and bottom either. Some sites are just insane.

Just because you have all these tricks doesn’t mean you have to use all of them.

Keep it simple and fast. People are smart enough now to navigate on their own. And when they get to click on something they see, they are already more interested.

They don’t need to be assaulted.

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darthstar  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:06:43pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:07:00pm
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electrotek  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:08:09pm
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ObserverArt  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:08:28pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Can we start a go-fund-me to buy some plane tickets to Russia? I think Newt needs to get out of this highly corrupt country and see how others do things.

Fucking asshole. Pay me, I’ll say anything.

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ObserverArt  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:09:25pm

re: #16 dangerman

“if hillary had not lost….”

she did

next

You are just not good with Republican fantasy are you?

: )

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dangerman  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:09:49pm

re: #76 ObserverArt

Not a big fan of all the flyouts from top sides and bottom either. Some sites are just insane.

Just because you have all these tricks doesn’t mean you have to use all of them.

Keep it simple and fast. People are smart enough now to navigate on their own. And when they get to click on something they see, they are already more interested.

They don’t need to be assaulted.

autoplay and everything you mentioned above are not for, ahem, us.

they are spoon feeding for the, ahem, less sophisticated, to further microtarget and focus what they see. it’s forced junk mail / spam cloaked in respectability due to the “source” page behind it

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:10:55pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:11:02pm

re: #79 electrotek

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I in fact just bought some beer from Muslims.

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Sir John Barron  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:11:49pm

re: #83 FormerDirtDart

Is Dana Mah Gunz doing another hysterical video?

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ObserverArt  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:13:23pm

Damn. I should have gone into building closets for Republicans. Obviously it’s a very lucrative business what with all the demand, the numbers and sizes needed. Can’t possibly be enough Republican closets.

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darthstar  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:13:58pm
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FormerDirtDart  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:14:36pm
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Dave In Austin  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:16:47pm

Ricks got his troll on….

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Jay C  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:17:00pm

re: #55 allegro

With the temps in Houston today risen to a balmy 43 degrees after a day of rain and night of snow (!) I decided to warm up the innards with a dinner of macaroni and cheese with bacon and chilis and home-made minestrone. Add toasted English muffins and dessert of pumpkin pie tarts. Soup is simmering now and my house smells sooo yummy.

I hear you: with temps in the Scenic Berkshires (tm) forecast to dip to what (I believe) professional meteorologists call “freeze-ass cold snowstorm” all day tomorrow, I spent today shopping for enough food (i.e. plenty) to make sure I didn’t have to go out: but could rather spend all of tomorrow idling around, cooking a “real” dinner, and watching Netflix (connections depending). A nice prospect, except for the possible lack of heating oil: oh well, FIrst World Problems…..

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:17:40pm
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dangerman  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:17:41pm

re: #81 ObserverArt

You are just not good with Republican fantasy are you?

: )

in case it’s not obvious in how i write, i’m a cut to the chase, black and white kind of guy.

so, no. ;-)

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EPR-radar  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:18:01pm

re: #75 The Ghost of a Flea

Observations on the Trent Frank horrorshow:

1. VOMITING FOREVER.

2. Note the pre-emptive resignation came paired with critical omission of detail. Expect this in future.

3. This is a prime fucking example of how a culture of sexual “purty” and fetishization of reproduction as the value of women perfectly dovetails with predatory behavior. “Male” authority figures get to discount the autonomy of women—“consent” emanates from the nearest male authority figure, but what if you have “authority” because you have social and spiritual capital… (a dick is also a major part of this calculation). Not a coincidence. Entirely in sync with the way sex abuse plays out in churches, reparative therapy camps, et cetera et cetera et cetera.

4. That the proposition was framed in terms of reproduction doe not mean that (a) it isn’t a sexualized abuse of power, (b) that he wasn’t getting off on it. “Acquire permanent bond to woman by impregnating her” is standard, if horrifying, intersection of erotism and power. Foucaultian power/sex dystopia is definitely a fucking thing now.

5. Double down bet: his wife had zero fucking clue about this “surrogacy” offer.

6. STILL VOMITIING.

Even though this is extremely revolting to any civilized person, it is manifestly inadequate to provoke an instant resignation of a GOP House Representative. There’s more to this story and it is much worse.

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gocart mozart  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:18:49pm

re: #45 Charles Johnson

Charles Johnson? Isn’t he that trollish ‘alt right’ bottom feeder and noted floor poop aficionado?

(ducks and runs away)

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A Mom Anon  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:18:57pm

re: #91 Backwoods_Sleuth

That is my new favorite on Facebook.

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ObserverArt  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:19:37pm

re: #48 dangerman

ive been thinking this for two days
did not want to be the one to say it out loud

it just gets creepier….

And it is not over by a long stretch.

I have a feeling there’s going to be one huge Spring Cleaning in DC this upcoming year. It will start right after New Years when Congress reconvenes and it will last all through November 2018.

Everyone bring buckets and rags.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:20:38pm

re: #96 ObserverArt

And it is not over by a long stretch.

I have a feeling there’s going to be one huge Spring Cleaning in DC this upcoming year. It will start right after New Years when Congress reconvenes and it will last all through November 2018.

Everyone bring buckets and rags.

steam cleaning pressure washers.

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TedStriker  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:21:02pm

re: #96 ObserverArt

And it is not over by a long stretch.

I have a feeling there’s going to be one huge Spring Cleaning in DC this upcoming year. It will start right after New Years when Congress reconvenes and it will last all through November 2018.

Everyone bring buckets and rags.

And long rubber gloves and hip boots.

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ObserverArt  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:23:13pm

re: #74 ipsos

Depends.

Does he get to watch?

//ish

I held off on saying that. But I had a feeling it would come up so to say.

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stpaulbear  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:27:51pm

Lt. Gov. Tina Smith isn’t a done deal to replace Al Franken yet.

Gov. Mark Dayton said Friday morning that he will name a new U.S. senator “in a couple days” but declined to talk about who it might be.

“I won’t have any comments on it until I have an announcement to make, it will be in a couple days and that’s where I’m going to leave it for now,” Dayton told reporters Friday morning after he spoke at a Final Four-related event in Minneapolis.

Democratic sources have told the Star Tribune that Dayton’s most likely choice for the Senate seat is Lt. Gov. Tina Smith, a longtime DFL insider and trusted ally to Dayton. The idea is that Smith would hold the seat only until the end of 2018, and not run in next November’s special election to fill it. That would leave an open field that could draw names from both the Minnesota DFL and GOP.

But Dayton was unwilling to talk in depth about his thought process.

“I want someone who will be a great United States senator for Minnesota and there are a number of people who fit that bill,” Dayton said.

If Dayton were to pick Smith, then a Republican state senator would become the new lieutenant governor. Sen. Michelle Fischbach of Paynesville, a 20-year veteran of the Legislature, currently holds the position of Senate president, which is first in the line of succession if the lieutenant governor quits.

Michelle Fischbach. Barf.

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gocart mozart  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:29:51pm

re: #88 FormerDirtDart

This annoys the hell out of me. NO. there is no conflict because they are on the same side. She is his fiance. Her interests are his interests. What part of the word ‘CONFLICT’ do you not fucking understand?

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ObserverArt  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:30:58pm

re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth

steam cleaning pressure washers.

Yeah…probably gonna need some industrial cleaning supplies. DC’s a mess.

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TedStriker  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:33:50pm

re: #100 stpaulbear

Lt. Gov. Tina Smith isn’t a done deal to replace Al Franken yet.

Michelle Fischbach. Barf.

To those who basically said it’d be a cakewalk to fill Franken’s seat after frogmarching him out of the Senate, just because MN has a Dem governor, this is but one reason why a bunch of us disagreed.

Think about it: Franken leaves, Dayton appoints Smith as his replacement, something happens to Dayton (IIRC, he’s already had some health scares in office) and he has to step down. Now, MN’s governorship has flipped from Democratic to Republican without a vote on the matter.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:34:19pm

So Hope Hicks was in the Hot Seat

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Stanley Sea  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:35:11pm
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darthstar  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:35:36pm

That’s not a ton of evidence…it’s a fuckin’ megaton.

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TedStriker  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:36:38pm

re: #106 darthstar

That’s not a ton of evidence…it’s a fuckin’ megaton.

A metric shit-ton.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:37:08pm

I really don’t know what’s going on with this brouhaha over Russian offer of emails and decryption key to Jr. that has now turned into a nothingburger (apparently), but if Trump rants about it tonight it was coordinated and CNN took the bait.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:37:45pm
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darthstar  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:37:52pm

re: #107 TedStriker

A metric shit-ton.

Cataloged and searchable, too, I bet.

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Jay C  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:38:34pm

re: #96 ObserverArt

And it is not over by a long stretch.

I have a feeling there’s going to be one huge Spring Cleaning in DC this upcoming year. It will start right after New Years when Congress reconvenes and it will last all through November 2018.

Everyone bring buckets and rags.

I wish you are right, OA: but I have a sinking feeling that the prospect of the “cleaning” that is (as I wholeheartedly agree) necessary in DC is going to be dealt with in the usual Republican manner, i.e.:

1. What dirt/smell?
2. Why do you keep bringing up this “Fake News” BS about dirt/smell?
3. The “Liberal Media” keeps bringing up these marginal dirt/smell issues - why do they hate America?
4. OK: even if the dirt issue is malodorous, it’s still fake, because Democrat X smells worse
5. Why won’t the “Liberal Media” call for the execution of Democrat X for [his/her] dirt/smell issues??
6. All this just goes to PROVE point 1( “what dirt/smell??”)
7. And the corollary to this all this is that Democrats/”Libruls” are Awful Enemies Of America - QED…..

Next question?

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darthstar  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:38:52pm
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stpaulbear  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:39:46pm

re: #103 TedStriker

To those who basically said it’d be a cakewalk to fill Franken’s seat after frogmarching him out of the Senate, just because MN has a Dem governor, this is but one reason why a bunch of us disagreed.

Think about it: Franken leaves, Dayton appoints Smith as his replacement, something happens to Dayton (IIRC, he’s already had some health scares in office) and he has to step down. Now, MN’s governorship has flipped from Democratic to Republican.

Yep. Exactly. Dayton shouldn’t do anything to put us at risk putting Fischbach in charge with both the house and senate in republican hands.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:39:50pm
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darthstar  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:40:58pm

I wasn’t gonna run because I’m too busy fuckin’ armadillos to chase after young women, but then I saw that thing about slavery being a great time in our country from Roy Moore and thought, Why the hell not?

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wrenchwench  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:43:01pm

re: #115 darthstar

I wasn’t gonna run because I’m too busy fuckin’ armadillos to chase after young women, but then I saw that thing about slavery being a great time in our country from Roy Moore and thought, Why the hell not?

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He’d be 93 when his term was over, should he win, which he will not, even if he does run.

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TedStriker  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:43:08pm

re: #115 darthstar

I wasn’t gonna run because I’m too busy fuckin’ armadillos to chase after young women, but then I saw that thing about slavery being a great time in our country from Roy Moore and thought, Why the hell not?

I guarantee Moore was indeed the catalyst for Arpaio even considering a Senate run at this point. If a fellow lawless “law-and-order” type is still in the running for a Senate seat, even after all of what’s come out against him, then Arpaio must figure he’s still got a better-than-average shot himself.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:43:43pm

More fuel for the pandemic fire:

Facebook Post

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Dave In Austin  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:45:04pm

re: #115 darthstar

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:45:55pm

re: #108 Barefoot Grin

I really don’t know what’s going on with this brouhaha over Russian offer of emails and decryption key to Jr. that has now turned into a nothingburger (apparently), but if Trump rants about it tonight it was coordinated and CNN took the bait.

I guess it was just sloppy reporting. We don’t need this.

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ipsos  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:54:29pm

The host of NPR’s “On Point” (produced at WBUR in Boston) is the latest to be suspended…

wbur.org

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The Major  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:56:09pm

re: #10 JordanRules

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dangerman  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:56:11pm

re: #109 Stanley Sea

MANAFORT’s Ukrainian ally said Manafort had “absolutely nothing to do with” an op-ed in @KyivPost defending Manafort.
MANAFORT’s tracked changes version of the op-ed, filed just now in court by MUELLER, proves otherwise.

these people are stupid

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The Major  Dec 8, 2017 • 2:58:53pm

re: #28 FormerDirtDart

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The Major  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:00:57pm

re: #35 scottslemmons

I’ve been suspecting it’s only a matter of time before a GOP legislator or candidate gets caught with a basement full of dead kids — and still get reelected.

Ah, yes the infamous Edwin Edwards quote - when down in Louisiana, they actually had bumper stickers that said: “Vote for The Crook - It’s important” as he was facing off against “Dr.” David Duke….

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Charles Johnson  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:01:13pm
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FormerDirtDart  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:01:23pm

re: #109 Stanley Sea

MANAFORT’s Ukrainian ally said Manafort had “absolutely nothing to do with” an op-ed in @KyivPost defending Manafort.
MANAFORT’s tracked changes version of the op-ed, filed just now in court by MUELLER, proves otherwise.

Seriously, do these people not understand how the whole digital realm works?

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The Major  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:03:08pm

re: #46 Ace-o-aces

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retired cynic  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:05:14pm
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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:09:44pm

Does she work for the Vorlons?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:13:54pm

re: #109 Stanley Sea

YouTube

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gocart mozart  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:15:41pm

The Who - Who Are You?
Fun Game: Guess Keith Moon’s B.A.C.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:15:56pm

re: #120 Barefoot Grin

I guess it was just sloppy reporting. We don’t need this.

According to CNN, Raju had multiple sources who confirmed the date. I’m thinking ratfuck, and as always, when that happens I say you burn the sources to the ground.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:16:17pm

re: #132 gocart mozart

I really wanna know!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:21:53pm

Last one to leave please turn out the lights.

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retired cynic  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:23:51pm

re: #135 Blind Frog Belly White

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Last one to leave please turn out the lights.

I would believe many more than that are guilty.

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gocart mozart  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:24:17pm

I concur with Norm

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Schweppes7  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:24:22pm

Ugh and another one.

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ObserverArt  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:24:35pm

re: #132 gocart mozart

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Fun Game: Guess Keith Moon’s B.A.C.

I think he ran a steady .20.

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The Major  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:25:05pm

re: #89 Dave In Austin

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retired cynic  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:30:36pm

re: #140 The Major

That may be true for him (Karma), but not for everyone. Sorry. That hit me wrong.

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gocart mozart  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:36:48pm

Wanna see a snuff film? A cold blooded murder by AZ finest jack booted fascist scum.

Video shows police killing of Daniel Shaver in Mesa, Arizona (viewer discretion advised)

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:37:46pm

re: #133 Blind Frog Belly White

According to CNN, Raju had multiple sources who confirmed the date. I’m thinking ratfuck, and as always, when that happens I say you burn the sources to the ground.

As with the Bob Ross thing.

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dangerman  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:39:19pm

re: #140 The Major

You’re trapped like the rat you are because of your own hubris. And the “Cannot Forgive, Cannot Forget” speech on the embassy balcony earlier in the year? Give it a rest, already….

he’s not trapped

he asked for asylum

he can leave any time
he chooses not to because he doesnt want to face his situation

no one has an inherent right to not be accused of something

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:39:20pm

Evening Lizards:

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:39:59pm

re: #143 Barefoot Grin

As with the Bob Ross thing.

Oh, you mean BRIAN Ross!

Bob Ross is the ‘happy little trees’ guy.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:41:11pm
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darthstar  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:41:28pm

Here comes the Trump purge…I was hoping this wouldn’t happen, but the 9th circuit is going to be one of his primary targets.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:41:58pm

re: #146 Blind Frog Belly White

Oh, you mean BRIAN Ross!

Bob Ross is the ‘happy little trees’ guy.

Oh, damn. Thanks.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:42:34pm

re: #147 Dave In Austin

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He is not better than that at all.

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dangerman  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:43:13pm

re: #142 gocart mozart

Wanna see a snuff film? A cold blooded murder by AZ finest jack booted fascist scum.

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the proximate cause of the man’s death was the police asking him to move after he was kneeling in place with his hands up

hallway or not they could have covered him and cuffed him in place

what are juries doing?

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:45:47pm

re: #137 gocart mozart

I concur with Norm

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Live boy or dead girl. Hmmmm — tough one ///

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dangerman  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:45:58pm

re: #147 Dave In Austin

I will be challenging Rs and Ds on Senate Judiciary Committee to support a Special Counsel to investigate ALL THINGS 2016 — not just Trump and Russia.

lindsey, where’s the conflict?
why a special counsel?

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gocart mozart  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:45:58pm

re: #151 dangerman

What’s the fun in that. The proximzate cause of death was the willfull intential killing of someone with malice of forthought. The cop went in there hoping for a chance to wack someone. This is 1st degree murder.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:45:59pm

re: #150 bill d. (b.d.)

He is not better than that at all.

Just appealing to his southern sensibilities and not being an asshole about it. Noo doubt the jackass can be large with this one. At least he’s not another Gohmert.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:47:32pm

re: #152 Hecuba’s daughter

Live boy or dead girl. Hmmmm — tough one ///

Homosexual/heteronecrophiliac three-way.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:48:25pm

re: #153 dangerman

lindsey, where’s the conflict?
why a special counsel?

Because it sounds tougher.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:49:13pm

If I get one more request from a Doug Jones surrogate today, I am going to scream…. Can’t they at least wait a day before sending new pleas? I contributed again this morning and have gotten 6 additional requests since.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:54:18pm

re: #151 dangerman

the proximate cause of the man’s death was the police asking him to move after he was kneeling in place with his hands up

hallway or not they could have covered him and cuffed him in place

what are juries doing?

Jurors throughout the country appear to be members of Black Lives Don’t Matter. This isn’t new with Trump, but he certainly gave voice to every bigot out there.

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Weaselone  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:55:28pm

re: #159 Hecuba’s daughter

Jurors throughout the country appear to be members of Black Lives Don’t Matter. This isn’t new with Trump, but he certainly gave voice to every bigot out there.

Wasn’t the victim in this case white?

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Charles Johnson  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:55:50pm

This is your periodic reminder that you can’t believe Scott Dworkin. (I don’t know why I bother, because people insist on falling for every fake story he pushes out there.)

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:55:51pm

re: #142 gocart mozart

Wanna see a snuff film? A cold blooded murder by AZ finest jack booted fascist scum.

Watched that earlier today. Then watched about 40 minutes of whimsical pet videos to calm down.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:56:57pm

Evening Lizardim from the - wait, no, the wild north country is cold, and snowy… and 8000 miles from my current location. It is, in fact, early morning here in the middle of the Indian continent, and pleasantly cool. How have things been in my absence?

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:58:19pm

re: #142 gocart mozart

This punk is the shooter, Philip Brailsford.

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 8, 2017 • 3:59:22pm

re: #160 Weaselone

Wasn’t the victim in this case white?

You are right. My bad. I cannot watch the video at work and made a mistaken assumption. So this shows that the police are willing and able to kill anyone regardless of race.

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The Major  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:01:42pm

re: #144 dangerman

he’s not trapped

he asked for asylum

he can leave any time
he chooses not to because he doesnt want to face his situation

no one has an inherent right to not be accused of something

From Wiki:

Although free to leave the Embassy, it is likely that he would then be arrested for the criminal offence of breaching his bail conditions.[10] The Metropolitan Police have indicated that an arrest warrant is still in force for Assange’s failure to surrender himself to his bail.[11]

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Stanley Sea  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:01:58pm

re: #164 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

This punk is the shooter, Philip Brailsford.

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I can’t watch but read all about it.

Is the murderer the same one who was giving all the impossible commands? Cross your left ankle over your right?

I think they are 2 different cops & the one giving the orders should be fired/also charged.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:05:02pm

Sold her soul

Before Ronna Romney McDaniel took over as Republican National Committee chairwoman earlier this year, President Trump had a request: Would she be willing to stop using her middle name publicly?

Trump followed up by saying in a lighthearted way that McDaniel, the niece of Mitt Romney, could do what she wanted, according to two people familiar with the comments. But the change was soon plain for all to see. Though she had used her maiden name for years in Michigan, where her grandfather had been governor, McDaniel dropped “Romney” from most official party communications and has rarely used it since.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:05:03pm
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dangerman  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:05:58pm

re: #166 The Major

From Wiki:

Although free to leave the Embassy, it is likely that he would then be arrested for the criminal offence of breaching his bail conditions.[10] The Metropolitan Police have indicated that an arrest warrant is still in force for Assange’s failure to surrender himself to his bail.[11]

i realize we’re playing semantics to an extent
he wont leave because he doesnt want to face the consequences of his own actions
not because he’s “trapped”

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gocart mozart  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:06:09pm

re: #164 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Bet he is a closet Nazi. This won’t be his last murder.

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Dave In Austin  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:06:58pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:08:27pm

re: #167 Stanley Sea

I can’t watch but read all about it.

Is the murderer the same one who was giving all the impossible commands? Cross your left ankle over your right?

I think they are 2 different cops & the one giving the orders should be fired/also charged.

Another officer, an older man, is visible in part of the video. He was probably the one giving the commands. The voice sounds older and he calls Shaver “young man” but the shooter, Brailsford, was actually younger than the victim.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:08:44pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:11:01pm
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JordanRules  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:13:05pm
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Decatur Deb  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:15:03pm

re: #161 Charles Johnson

This is your periodic reminder that you can’t believe Scott Dworkin. (I don’t know why I bother, because people insist on falling for every fake story he pushes out there.)

Thought he was dead. Or was that Plissken?

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JordanRules  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:17:38pm
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JordanRules  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:18:53pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:19:26pm

re: #169 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:21:12pm
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allegro  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:22:11pm

I HAVE WINE!

Been a long week and longer day. ThIs fact makes me happier than it should. :)

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Charmingly Persistent  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:23:30pm

re: #100 stpaulbear

Lt. Gov. Tina Smith isn’t a done deal to replace Al Franken yet.

Michelle Fischbach. Barf.

The idea is that Smith would hold the seat only until the end of 2018, and not run in next November’s special election to fill it.

This seems really stupid to me. Why wouldn’t he appoint someone who will run and get the benefits of incumbency, however brief? Maybe Democrats really are playing to lose. :-(

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Targetpractice  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:23:40pm

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ayep, and their aspire to expand their fiefdom to all of the US, just as soon as they can find the right trigger to do so.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:26:25pm

re: #182 allegro

I HAVE WINE!

Been a long week and longer day. ThIs fact makes me happier than it should. :)

I went to Specs and loaded up.

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JordanRules  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:26:56pm
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Targetpractice  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:26:56pm

re: #100 stpaulbear

Lt. Gov. Tina Smith isn’t a done deal to replace Al Franken yet.

Michelle Fischbach. Barf.

So even the fig leaf of “We’ll get a female replacement” turns out to be a lie. I honestly cannot fathom a worse scenario than the one playing out, where a woman gets Franken’s seat not because of an election but because she fell into it, and only on a promise that she’ll vacate it for (likely) another man come next November. Whatever value she had as a symbol of the party “taking sexual harassment seriously” just went up in smoke.

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Ace-o-aces  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:27:49pm
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JordanRules  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:29:21pm
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Ace Rothstein  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:34:09pm

Whenever Nikki Haley talks, her lips never move. She’s like a ventriloquist.

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Skip Intro  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:35:54pm

re: #103 TedStriker

To those who basically said it’d be a cakewalk to fill Franken’s seat after frogmarching him out of the Senate, just because MN has a Dem governor, this is but one reason why a bunch of us disagreed.

Think about it: Franken leaves, Dayton appoints Smith as his replacement, something happens to Dayton (IIRC, he’s already had some health scares in office) and he has to step down. Now, MN’s governorship has flipped from Democratic to Republican without a vote on the matter.

Appointing Smith, who says she won’t run again, it just about the stupidest move the governor could make. Why are Democrats so dumb?

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Skip Intro  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:38:41pm

re: #116 wrenchwench

He’d be 93 when his term was over, should he win, which he will not, even if he does run.

Same age as Diane Feinstein.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:40:11pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:42:39pm

re: #185 Ace Rothstein

I went to Specs and loaded up.

Still on my list & I don’t have snow.

I’m still getting emails from work.

I try to close at 3 on Fridays for dog’s sake.

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stpaulbear  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:43:13pm

re: #187 Targetpractice

So even the fig leaf of “We’ll get a female replacement” turns out to be a lie. I honestly cannot fathom a worse scenario than the one playing out, where a woman gets Franken’s seat not because of an election but because she fell into it, and only on a promise that she’ll vacate it for (likely) another man come next November. Whatever value she had as a symbol of the party “taking sexual harassment seriously” just went up in smoke.

Here’s a companion story that went along with that earlier one I posted.

Tension between Minnesota, D.C. on how to fill Franken’s seat, sources say

On Wednesday night, high-ranking Minnesota Democratic sources said the governor was likely to appoint Lt. Gov. Tina Smith, someone who would not run for the seat permanently. That would give both parties equal time to mount campaigns for the historic election next November in which both Senate seats would be on the line.

A Washington political analyst who tracks the Senate said Franken’s decision to resign in a few weeks — rather than immediately — “really raised a lot of eyebrows around here today.”

Jennifer Duffy, senior editor at the Washington-based Cook Political Report, which provides nonpartisan political analysis, said Franken’s timing is generous to his staff, who are all likely to be out of work when he resigns, but also gives Dayton more time to settle on a replacement and hear from those with opinions on how to fill it.

She said top Senate Democratics like Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., would much rather have a replacement who can immediately begin campaigning and raising money. Ultimately, Dayton will decide which way to go.

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JordanRules  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:44:19pm
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GlutenFreeJesus  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:44:46pm

So. I know some of you here still play Pokémon Go whether you want to admit it or not. ;)

Today is a big day. Local weather effects and the start of the Gen 3 roll-out. Don’t like this post because then you’ll be outing yourself.

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Targetpractice  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:46:11pm

So instead of having a popular incumbent running for the MN seat in 2020 in what could very well be a big year for the DNC, we instead will have a free-for-all brawl next year for that seat in a competitive state during a midterm where poor turnout is the norm rather than the exception.

Brilliant strategy, Napoleon.///////

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JordanRules  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:46:15pm

Oh hell no.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:48:15pm

re: #195 stpaulbear

She said top Senate Democratics like Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., would much rather have a replacement who can immediately begin campaigning and raising money. Ultimately, Dayton will decide which way to go.

yeah, because that’s how we expect our elected representatives to spend the majority of their time once in office…

*spit*

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allegro  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:48:43pm

re: #194 Stanley Sea

Still on my list & I don’t have snow.

I’m still getting emails from work.

I try to close at 3 on Fridays for dog’s sake.

You got fire. Hey! We’re living Game of Thrones!

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Targetpractice  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:49:14pm

re: #200 Backwoods_Sleuth

yeah, because that’s how we expect our elected representatives to spend the majority of their time once in office…

*spit*

Yeah, kinda hard to build that record we were assured would help the incumbent win next year if they have to spend the year on the campaign trail instead.

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TedStriker  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:49:15pm

re: #178 JordanRules

What Ajit Pai’s FCC has in store for all of us, once he rams the repeal of net neutrality rules through the commisions, public opinion be damned.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:49:54pm

re: #198 Targetpractice

So instead of having a popular incumbent running for the MN seat in 2020 in what could very well be a big year for the DNC, we instead will have a free-for-all brawl next year for that seat in a competitive state during a midterm where poor turnout is the norm rather than the exception.

Brilliant strategy, Napoleon.///////

but there will be all of those independent women flocking to the Democratic party…

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jaunte  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:51:30pm

re: #199 JordanRules

Death-worshippers.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:53:51pm

re: #193 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Trump’s America.

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Decatur Deb  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:54:00pm

re: #193 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Y’all libtards are hard to please. Ya complain our cops are shooting too many unarmed Black kids, and when we shoot a White one ya still piss and moan.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:54:14pm

This disgusting freak actually does talk to people in the Trump administration so this is probably true.

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BeachDem  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:55:15pm

re: #190 Ace Rothstein

Whenever Nikki Haley talks, her lips never move. She’s like a ventriloquist.

Her lips don’t move and not a coherent thought goes through her empty head.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:55:31pm

re: #208 Charles Johnson

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This disgusting freak actually does talk to people in the Trump administration so this is probably true.

My bet? Miller.

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meteor  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:56:25pm
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stpaulbear  Dec 8, 2017 • 4:59:03pm

Another batch of reasons to hate Taylor Swift, publicly financed stadiums, and the current state of the music and concert industry in general:

Minnesota fans’ mad love for Taylor Swift is turning into bad blood in some cases now that early tickets to her Sept. 1 U.S. Bank Stadium concert are on sale and causing widespread sticker shock.

Many die-hards and/or giving parents who got in on the singer’s Verified Fan pre-sale program — ostensibly a means to fight ticket scalpers — faced the dilemma of paying $795 or $447 for VIP packages with tickets in prime locations, or else $87-$153 plus fees for seats in the upper bowels of the 65,000-capacity stadium.

Just getting the first crack at buying Swift’s tickets cost a lot of time and energy. The singer’s Ticketmaster-generated Verified Fan program required several weeks of jumping through different hoops to get “boosted” to the front of the virtual line. Fans could earn boosts for buying her album in different formats, watching her videos, posting Swift-related selfies and handing over their mobile number to marketers.

After all that, the verified Swift fans were given a specific one-hour window to log on to buy tickets starting this week. And that’s when they first got a load of the complexities and prices.

“I guess my teenage girls are going to be disappointed,” said Lance Schwartz of Mankato, who was given a buying window Thursday night. Schwartz said he was unwilling to play the “silly games” and was left with the option of buying the $447-plus VIP package or paying $150 for “obstructed view seats.” He opted not to buy anything.

A fan who did play along and said she spent “hours upon hours” trying to get boosted in the Verified Fan program, Alyssa Pelish joined the chorus of complaints on Twitter about the results. “Wasn’t the idea of this so that ticket scalpers couldn’t do this to fans that have been there since the beginning?” Pelish tweeted as @AlyssaRelish, noting that the $795 “pit ticket” near the stage was half her monthly salary.

“And unless you’re shelling out $800, everywhere else in the stadium sounds awful,” tweeted Stefanie Deal (@StefDeal), referring to the new $1 billion Minneapolis football stadium’s reputation for bad acoustics.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:01:54pm

re: #212 stpaulbear

Another batch of reasons to hate Taylor Swift, publicly financed stadiums, and the current state of the music and concert industry in general:

Makes me glad that I go to cheaper venues that charge less. I recently got Dropkick Murphys tickets for D.C.’s new venue for only 35 bucks each.

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FormerDirtDart  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:03:42pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:07:28pm

Live footage of the death of Peter Frampton’s musical career

Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band - The Movie (1978)

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allegro  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:07:40pm

re: #212 stpaulbear

Another batch of reasons to hate Taylor Swift, publicly financed stadiums, and the current state of the music and concert industry in general:

That stadium should be occupied by none but crickets and roaches when she comes on stage. This is unconscionable.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:08:37pm

re: #214 FormerDirtDart

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He looked better as Ian McKellean. Now he looks like a poor man’s Henry Jones, Sr.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:08:40pm

re: #214 FormerDirtDart

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Ron Paul….I remember him….guess all those Ron Paul guys are either wearing MAGA hats or BernieBros.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:09:11pm

By the way, not that I like the decision but this is what gets Ron Paul talking about Trump? Where the hell was “Uncle Liberty” during the travel bans?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:11:40pm

re: #218 bill d. (b.d.)

Ron Paul….I remember him….guess all those Ron Paul guys are either wearing MAGA hats or BernieBros.

They definitely attracted the same kind of fanatic following.

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whitebeach  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:13:07pm

God damn it. Anybody remember Sherman Adams? I do, even though I was just a kid. It was that big a deal. Adams was Eisenhower’s chief of staff. Some business guy who could profit from a word in Ike’s ear gave Adams a coat. A vicuna coat. Ike fired him.

No, I’m not saying how great the good old days were, because plenty was seriously shitty back then. All I’m saying was that there was once a time in America when, if you got caught doing something shady and it could be proved, you were gone.

It was a long time ago no matter what. But since Nov. 2016 it seems flat-out prehistoric.

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gocart mozart  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:13:10pm

Steve Martin’s worst performance

Youtube Video

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:14:53pm

re: #199 JordanRules

Oh hell no.

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I saw a tweet, maybe here, that said the rapture did happen and the only ones who got called up were David Bowie, Prince and Tom Petty.

sigh….

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:15:38pm

re: #223 bill d. (b.d.)

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I saw a tweet, maybe here, that said the rapture did happen and the only ones who got called up were David Bowie, Prince and Tom Petty.

sigh….

JFC these people are nutso.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:15:47pm

re: #219 HappyWarrior

By the way, not that I like the decision but this is what gets Ron Paul talking about Trump? Where the hell was “Uncle Liberty” during the travel bans?

Brown People.

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dangerman  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:17:31pm

re: #215 gocart mozart

Live footage of the death of Peter Frampton’s musical career

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Video

maybe cause he got all the words wrong?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:21:02pm

re: #225 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Brown People.

Yep, fuck Luap Nor.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:22:47pm

re: #222 gocart mozart

One of the greatest albums ever made, turned into one of the worst movies ever made.

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jaunte  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:23:19pm
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allegro  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:24:28pm

re: #229 jaunte

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I lean towards nauseating.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:26:28pm
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JordanRules  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:26:46pm
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A Mom Anon  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:27:04pm

re: #208 Charles Johnson

He is evil. He makes my skin crawl.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:27:11pm

CNN is showing a live feed of the yam, sound off.

Anderson Cooper is having his regular show on a split screen.

burn

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Targetpractice  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:28:10pm

Trump arrives before speech, will still manage to be late for it.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:29:03pm

re: #229 jaunte

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Not going to watch Hair Furor but I am eagerly awaiting dementia updates, these rallies get worse and worse.

He is reimbursing the Govt. for the cost of taking him to these political rallies….right?

lol, no seriously!

// I know better, I don’t expect for him to pay for his future jail cell either.

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allegro  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:29:57pm

re: #235 Targetpractice

Trump arrives before speech, will still manage to be late for it.

You think that’s an accident? That’s a total dominance move.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:31:18pm

[trump] IN ALABAMA WE’LL BE SAYING “MERRY CHRISTMAS LITTLE GIRL WOULD YOU HELP ME LOOK FOR MY LOST PUPPY” AGAIN [/trump]

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:31:18pm
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jaunte  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:31:41pm

re: #235 Targetpractice

In before “There are thousands waiting outside who can’t get in.”

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JordanRules  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:31:52pm

How loyal are you Hope?

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bratwurst  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:32:07pm

Sorry, if this was posted earlier, just getting online. How in the world do you justify something like this?

Also, Trump just said hello to the “Blacks for Trump” guy who was once charged with two murders.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:32:44pm
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Ace Rothstein  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:33:03pm

re: #239 Backwoods_Sleuth

WTF?

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:33:40pm

re: #244 Ace Rothstein

WTF?

It’s his idea of “minority outreach.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:34:04pm

re: #244 Ace Rothstein

WTF?

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Decatur Deb  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:34:26pm

re: #245 HappyWarrior

It’s his idea of “minority outreach.”

We was going to tell them he liked Coco.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:35:12pm

re: #244 Ace Rothstein

WTF?

I would say that he couldn’t have said that but……..ya know…….the new normal and all.

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dangerman  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:35:55pm

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump chose Pensacola for a reason. It’s basically Alabama.

it’s alabama with plausible deniability re: moore

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:36:08pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:37:25pm

re: #241 JordanRules

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How loyal are you Hope?

soooooooooooooooooo loyal.

I pray enough to be locked up.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:37:32pm

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wages are not going up. Technically, barely, but any increase is being eaten alive by rising health care costs.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:38:51pm

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

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You gotta love wingnut voters like these. They claim that gay men pray on children and here they are condoning this kind of crap. I’m sorry but I’m really starting to get disgusted with a large part of our country and it erally makes em sick that I have to share a country with them. And that’s total bullshit anyhow.

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austin_blue  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:40:56pm

re: #37 HappyWarrior

I can see Trump now saying so and so is tough on crime.

Bill Hicks on the death of Jesse Helms:

“Anyone, you know when Jesse Helms finally dies, he’s going to commit suicide first of all, out back behind a pecan tree. He’s going to slash his wrists and write in blood, “I’ve been a bad boy.” But you know they’re going to find the skins of young children drying in his attic. Swarms of horseflies going in and out of the eaves, and on CNN over and over his wife going, “I always wondered about Jesse’s collection of little shoes.” Anyone that far to the right is fuckin hiding a deep dark secret.”

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gocart mozart  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:41:20pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:42:38pm

re: #255 austin_blue

Bill Hicks on the death of Jesse Helms:

“Anyone, you know when Jesse Helms finally dies, he’s going to commit suicide first of all, out back behind a pecan tree. He’s going to slash his wrists and write in blood, “I’ve been a bad boy.” But you know they’re going to find the skins of young children drying in his attic. Swarms of horseflies going in and out of the eaves, and on CNN over and over his wife going, “I always wondered about Jesse’s collection of little shoes.” Anyone that far to the right is fuckin hiding a deep dark secret.”

HEh such a shame that Bill left us so young and Jesse well lived a long time. I do wish Jesse had lived just long enough to see Obama elected though because it would have been his entire career in politics ruined to see a black man attain the highest office in the land.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:44:02pm

re: #256 gocart mozart

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It’s because his theory is bullshit. Dershowitz is far from a stupid man but he’s become a huge apologist for the worst of right wing excesses which is even worse.

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gocart mozart  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:44:06pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:46:18pm
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jaunte  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:46:30pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:47:54pm

re: #259 gocart mozart

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Hoenstly I’m sick of these stupid debates and town halls that CNN has. I get that they’re trying to bring stuff closer to the people but it’s usually just dumbing down a lot of shit and just publicity for the parties involved.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:48:21pm

re: #251 Backwoods_Sleuth

“But if it was a Democrat doin’ it, dag nab it, we’d run his liberal ass outta town!”

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mmmirele  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:48:34pm

re: #148 darthstar

Here comes the Trump purge…I was hoping this wouldn’t happen, but the 9th circuit is going to be one of his primary targets.

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Kozinski is a problem with a capital P. His former clerk, Heidi Bond (who writes romance novels under the pen name of Courtney Milan), had more to say on her website. I’d strongly advise people to read what she has to say, to understand what kind of an impact his behavior had on her mental and physical well-being.

courtneymilan.com

This is hard, because Kozinski is an eloquent defender of the First Amendment, but when I read what Bond had to say, I wanted to weep tears of rage for her sake. I am trying to understand why men (and I’m sure women but for sure some men) do these things. It’s not necessary.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:48:52pm

re: #261 jaunte

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This nutjob could well be the Virginia nominee for Senator next fall. He only barely lost to Gillespie this spring. Me? I hope they run him and I hope Kaine ends his misery once and for all and he finally realizes his Neo-Confederate bullshit has no place in Virginia.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:49:56pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:50:02pm
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Ace Rothstein  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:51:15pm

re: #267 gocart mozart

In response to Mr. Tribe, yes and yes.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:51:50pm

Is anyone else watching The Crown on Netflix?

I’m reading that season 2 ep 1&2 have dropped, but all I see is season 1.

I’m so handicapped, cannot figure out.

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gocart mozart  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:52:23pm
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bratwurst  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:52:38pm

Trump is doing a “greatest hits” show tonight.

Afghanistan is safer than Chicago!

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Decatur Deb  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:52:55pm

re: #268 Ace Rothstein

In response to Mr. Tribe, yes and yes.

Yes and maybe.

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jaunte  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:53:14pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:53:39pm

re: #267 gocart mozart

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Professor Tribe they will. They accepted Jesse Helms for years.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:54:19pm

re: #271 bratwurst

Trump is doing a “greatest hits” show tonight.

Afghanistan is safer than Chicago!

JFC. I get sick of Chicago bashing and I’ve only stepped foot in the city on a layover. I’m so sick of the bashing of it by assholes who have never been there and just want to use it to attack minorities.

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Charles Johnson  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:54:30pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:54:34pm
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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:57:17pm

re: #277 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Agh.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:57:42pm

re: #276 Charles Johnson

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I thought it was bad but I didn’t know we’d go and elect King Birther.

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JordanRules  Dec 8, 2017 • 5:59:55pm

re: #269 Stanley Sea

I’m not, but I have friends that started S2 so it was there.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:00:12pm

re: #277 Backwoods_Sleuth

This video has me feeling sorry for Frank Luntz. I never thought I’d live to say that.

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teleskiguy  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:00:31pm
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JordanRules  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:00:40pm

re: #274 HappyWarrior

They accept Steve King right now too.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:01:18pm

re: #283 JordanRules

They accept Steve King right now too.

That’s technically the House but yes. Steve King who has Nuremberg Laws ideas of citizenship and these motherfuckers have the nerve to call us Nazis.

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Ace Rothstein  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:02:28pm

re: #277 Backwoods_Sleuth

Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, you have to watch what happens starting at 4:36.

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JordanRules  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:02:37pm

re: #284 HappyWarrior

True, true.

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whitebeach  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:02:59pm

re: #279 HappyWarrior

I thought it was bad but I didn’t know we’d go and elect King Birther.

I don’t think I ever really appreciated Marlowe’s “Doctor Faustus” until just recently:

Faustus: Where are you damned?

Mephistopheles: In hell.

Faustus: How comes it then that thou art out of hell?

Mephistopheles: Why this is hell, nor am I out of it.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:03:42pm

re: #286 JordanRules

True, true.

It just makes me sick that there are people like this in elected office. His constituents must be lovely.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:04:07pm

re: #287 whitebeach

I don’t think I ever really appreciated Marlowe’s “Doctor Faustus” until just recently:

Faustus: Where are you damned?

Mephistopheles: In hell.

Faustus: How comes it then that thou art out of hell?

Mephistopheles: Why this is hell, nor am I out of it.

Never read any Marlowe but I like that.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:04:16pm

re: #281 Ace Rothstein

This video has me feeling sorry for Frank Luntz. I never thought I’d live to say that.

That video proves the success of Luntz’s tactics…..let that guy suffer with the rest of it….he is an gold digging enabler who is partly to blame.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:05:03pm

re: #285 Ace Rothstein

Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, you have to watch what happens starting at 4:36.

I wonder how Luntz feels about selling a party brand to a bunch of people who thikn he’s he’s hellbound for being Jewish.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:05:34pm

re: #290 bill d. (b.d.)

That video proves the success of Luntz’s tactics…..let that guy suffer with the rest of it….he is an gold digging enabler who is partly to blame.

It’s why I don’t feel bad for Romney. Romney courted Trump’s support when he ran in 2012 and I still remember his smug grin the day Benghazi happened.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:06:16pm

Jeb’s another. Different reasons given the way he dragged Terry Schiavo’s husband Michael through the mud and got that poor guy death threats.

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teleskiguy  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:06:56pm

GAH!!!

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:07:41pm

re: #294 teleskiguy

GAH!!!

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With you around Donnie, we’ll always have enough wind because you’re a windbag.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:08:15pm

re: #275 HappyWarrior

JFC. I get sick of Chicago bashing and I’ve only stepped foot in the city on a layover. I’m so sick of the bashing of it by assholes who have never been there and just want to use it to attack minorities.

I’ve been there, because I used to live nearby for years. It’s not the happiest place on earth, but it’s not like it’s a war-torn post-apocalyptic murder playground. I mean, hell, one time I was there was with about 50 stupid white teenagers on a high school Spanish class field trip, and none of us managed to get shot, so it can’t be as bad as Afghanistan where that happens on a daily basis.

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dangerman  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:08:24pm

re: #285 Ace Rothstein

Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, you have to watch what happens starting at 4:36.

these are not informed, educated people
this is brainwashing

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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:08:38pm

re: #294 teleskiguy

It’s the argument the GOP spews, ignoring that there are these things called batteries that smooth power flow - allowing generation of power when the wind blows - using the excess to power batteries - and then use the batteries when wind is low. Same with solar.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:09:05pm

re: #285 Ace Rothstein

Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, you have to watch what happens starting at 4:36.

SOROS ASSASSINS!!!11!!!!

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jaunte  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:09:46pm

re: #294 teleskiguy

How can there be flashlights without a cord to plug them in to the wall?

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Targetpractice  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:10:15pm

re: #294 teleskiguy

GAH!!!

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Why do I get the feeling that this man would be lost if he ever had to drive a car himself? “Isn’t it just supposed to come on? It always does when I climb in the back…”

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:10:32pm

re: #296 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’ve been there, because I used to live nearby for years. It’s not the happiest place on earth, but it’s not like it’s a war-torn post-apocalyptic murder playground. I mean, hell, one time I was there was with about 50 stupid white teenagers on a high school Spanish class field trip, and none of us managed to get shot, so it can’t be as bad as Afghanistan where that happens on a daily basis.

I do go to D.C. a bit, another place that ignorant wingnuts think is a hellhole. It’s just so frustrating seeing an American city used this way. And if Trump and these wingnuts think Chicago is so awful, why aren’t they supporting efforts for urban renewal? Why do wingnuts loathe community organizers like the the n young Barack Obama? You don’t have to answer that. We both know the answer.

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bill d. (b.d.)  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:11:16pm

A lot of Alabama has been taken over by a political cult.

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dangerman  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:11:32pm

re: #298 lawhawk

It’s the argument the GOP spews, ignoring that there are these things called batteries that smooth power flow - allowing generation of power when the wind blows - using the excess to power batteries - and then use the batteries when wind is low. Same with solar.

plus, other forms of power generation will not totally disappear

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jaunte  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:11:43pm
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William Lewis  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:12:08pm

re: #287 whitebeach

I don’t think I ever really appreciated Marlowe’s “Doctor Faustus” until just recently:

Faustus: Where are you damned?

Mephistopheles: In hell.

Faustus: How comes it then that thou art out of hell?

Mephistopheles: Why this is hell, nor am I out of it.

Marlowe is the great unknown of English theater. It is unfortunate that he spent more time spying than scribing…

“Hell hath no limits, nor is circumscribed In one self place, for where we are is hell, And where hell is there must we ever be. ” or “While money doesn’t buy love, it puts you in a great bargaining position.” or “O, thou art fairer than the evening air clad in the beauty of a thousand stars.”

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Kragar  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:12:59pm
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jaunte  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:14:16pm

Make America Screeching Nincompoops Again.

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teleskiguy  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:14:31pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:14:50pm

Mike Flynn Was Always a Fraud

Mike Flynn was never the savvy intelligence intellectual he pretended to be, which explains why his directorship at DIA was such a disaster. While a competent tactical intelligence guy, Flynn had no idea how the big game was played inside the Beltway, so he dropped the ball when he was let on the field. This also explains how Flynn seemed to have no idea that his calls to the Russian embassy might be intercepted by the FBI, an astonishing ignorance for a career intelligence officer. Then again, there’s a lot that Mike Flynn ought to have known but somehow didn’t.

observer.com

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PhillyPretzel  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:15:27pm

re: #298 lawhawk

They did not teach that in Sunday school so therefore it does not exist. Those so-called people make me so angry. I am using solar powered batteries and it works very well. I even bring my battery to the polling place on Election Day so that everyone can keep their phones and tablets going.

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jaunte  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:15:52pm
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Charles Johnson  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:15:58pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:16:49pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:17:45pm

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Like his followers, Trump is a full party-over-country guy: He will support anything Republican and will oppose anything Democrat, regardless of whether it actually makes sense to do so.

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allegro  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:18:30pm

re: #285 Ace Rothstein

Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, you have to watch what happens starting at 4:36.

Well fuck that was depressing. I can’t even express my horror at what I’m feeling right now.

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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:18:56pm

re: #310 gocart mozart

Everyone in Trump’s orbit has no clue what they’re doing. Even the career military guys are circling the drain with their actions/inactions and general incompetence at the role they’re in.

Flynn was fired for cause, and with good reason. Obama warned Trump. Trump ignored the warning anyways, because anything Obama says is inherently bad in Trumpworld.

So of course Obama is right - and was right all along about Flynn. Trump still backs the self-admitted felon.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:19:05pm

re: #313 Charles Johnson

The pettiness is the appeal.

What he does is how they wish they could deal with other people. DeSadean enjoyment of power.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:20:22pm

re: #310 gocart mozart

Mike Flynn Was Always a Fraud

observer.com

He was a total dick at DIA. I have that from a very reliable source.

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HappyWarrior  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:20:48pm

re: #316 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Like his followers, Trump is a full party-over-country guy: He will support anything Republican and will oppose anything Democrat, regardless of whether it actually makes sense to do so.

Which is why the idea that Trump “isn’t really a Republican” is a bs.

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JordanRules  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:20:52pm

re: #316 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

He’s primarily a Trump over Country guy.
Secondarily we get, Anything over Obama as a motivation.

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Kragar  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:21:45pm
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jaunte  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:22:51pm
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Stanley Sea  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:23:07pm

I’m really wondering how the GOTV operation is set up for Doug.

I hope so much that we don’t know, but will be gleeful when we find it was like VA.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:23:43pm

Is he still talking? CNN still has him silent/split screen.

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jaunte  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:23:50pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:23:55pm

re: #323 Kragar

I wish these people would hurry up and just rapture on out of here.

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jaunte  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:24:56pm

re: #328 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

It’s not so much they want to be in heaven, but they want to see their enemies in hell.

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BeachDem  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:25:09pm

And while the asshole in chief runs his vulgar mouth, the house committee on natural resources is going after a private company.

We are so fucked.

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dangerman  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:27:27pm

re: #328 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

I wish these people would hurry up and just rapture themselves on out of here and leave the rest of us alone.

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lawhawk  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:27:36pm

re: #330 BeachDem

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makeitstop  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:29:20pm

re: #213 HappyWarrior

Makes me glad that I go to cheaper venues that charge less. I recently got Dropkick Murphys tickets for D.C.’s new venue for only 35 bucks each.

We saw Greta Van Fleet in NYC for $25 each the other night. By the time the tickets got to StubHub (and people started noticing that the band was the real deal), they were going for over ten times that amount.

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Kragar  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:30:28pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:31:47pm

re: #215 gocart mozart

Oh this movie is in my RAZZIE® Holy of Holies box along with other gems like The Apple, The Lonely Lady, Battlefield Earth, The Lonely Lady, Freddy Got Fingered, I Know Who Killed Me, Can’t Stop The Music, Rhinestone and Shaghai Surprise!

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whitebeach  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:31:56pm

re: #306 William Lewis

Marlowe is the great unknown of English theater. It is unfortunate that he spent more time spying than scribing…

“Hell hath no limits, nor is circumscribed In one self place, for where we are is hell, And where hell is there must we ever be. ” or “While money doesn’t buy love, it puts you in a great bargaining position.” or “O, thou art fairer than the evening air clad in the beauty of a thousand stars.”

I seriously question the provenance of the “bargaining position” quotation. It appears in many places on the web, but I’ve yet to see a specific work cited, the language is too modern for the Elizabethan era, and the measure bears no resemblance to Marlowe’s characteristic ringing iambic pentameter.

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Kragar  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:32:57pm
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stpaulbear  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:34:21pm

re: #329 jaunte

It’s not so much they want to be in heaven, but they want to see their enemies in hell.

They would hate being stuck in a heaven that didn’t allow them to see people suffering in hell. It’s all about judgement, not redemption.

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nines09  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:34:57pm

re: #333 makeitstop

Hey. How’d your MS casino gig go?

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BeachDem  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:36:00pm

re: #332 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

The response from the digital director for natural resources.

His whole timeline is obnoxious bullshit.

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whitebeach  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:36:06pm

re: #316 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Like his followers, Trump is a full party-over-country guy: He will support anything Republican and will oppose anything Democrat, regardless of whether it actually makes sense to do so.

Actually I don’t think so. Trump has no loyalty to any party except himself. He aligns himself with the Republicans for two reasons only: Their priorities are such as will benefit him and his grotesque family, and Obama was a Democrat.

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allegro  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:37:08pm

re: #342 whitebeach

Actually I don’t think so. Trump has no loyalty to any party except himself. He aligns himself with the Republicans for two reasons only: Their priorities are such as will benefit him and his grotesque family, and Obama was a Democrat.

Three reasons. They’re morons.

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allegro  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:37:58pm

re: #343 allegro

Three reasons. They’re morons.

Not far enough. They’re bible thumping, propagandized rube morons.

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Kragar  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:40:06pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:40:17pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:40:29pm

Off to breakfast and a meeting, then perhaps I will be back. Later lizards.

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Targetpractice  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:41:16pm

re: #345 Kragar

[Embedded content]

I was going to say either “human decency,” “coherency,” or “all connections to objective reality.”

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dangerman  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:42:38pm

re: #346 Backwoods_Sleuth

When a federal government official publicly calls you a liar on an official social media account, without any due process whatsoever, the first thing you should do is call a lawyer. The second thing you should do is find out the name of the official who posted this tweet.

if it’s the president?

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Stanley Sea  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:42:55pm

OgFvfKCJm+h90o7HbWLTgBBGEpU5c7vCZoEBTdSGSqsFRm9i27hRIyUG+Ep+lNeQHPovB8q5OG983sw5hAVeiJfJ4QPr4WOGhLFMtPHHpejU0Hek3YT9GXQ2rsjgcr5iowUOa9P6jc1LcmIrnaFgkqmWBBFfol0j4eHnF+Uspv9F7VryI5itzWwuOCBYVRZp0+6Qfze+XKuGB7CW4k/dcPdS4nvqmXC0WYFoYtPjeGfLWPQ6WsquQQFgFEZ2S8O4EBIlav/T8i99Ev1OyO5+sY/4eXHTIwAUTxm7SYUGEiwAIizK3TOztd2hPsuNxBnfSwGJpOAcTal9YBD5zM0MVkx3zuDDatiqX5pcn/NSU+A=

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Stanley Sea  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:43:36pm

re: #340 nines09

Hey. How’d your MS casino gig go?

Yeah, I missed the report & the hopefully lizard meet-up

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:43:43pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:45:34pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:46:09pm

jeebus

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dangerman  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:46:32pm

re: #353 Unshaken Defiance

That moment when the President makes you wonder why you insist on paying attention to the President ever again.

i dont
and i wont

im glad there are others who do so i dont have to

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:47:03pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:48:07pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:48:08pm

re: #354 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

[Embedded content]

I refuse to watch President Mister Hankey.

Mr. Hankey - Howdy Ho!

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Belafon  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:48:13pm

re: #330 BeachDem

Not that I expect anything, but I sent Ratcliffe an email stating that he might want to explain the first amendment to his fellow member.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:48:53pm

re: #354 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

[Embedded content]

Perfect stop frame in the video.

he’s a fucking clown

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stpaulbear  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:48:57pm

re: #354 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

[Embedded content]

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Hecuba's daughter  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:49:35pm

re: #342 whitebeach

Actually I don’t think so. Trump has no loyalty to any party except himself. He aligns himself with the Republicans for two reasons only: Their priorities are such as will benefit him and his grotesque family, and Obama was a Democrat.

He really does not care about any supposed Republican values: religion, abortion, anti-environment, anti-global warming. The only true values he holds are that he is racist to the core and that he is authoritarian. He knew he could not run as a Democrat because his history of racism would not appeal to their core constituency. And Democrats tend to favor candidates who actually know something about issues.

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allegro  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:49:43pm

re: #356 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Thank you so much for posting that picture. That there are so few people there gives me a bit of hope. I was just about to fly into a rant to end all rants. It gave me a breath.

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Targetpractice  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:50:24pm

re: #354 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

[Embedded content]

“Now watch as I sign a tax bill that encourages companies to ship more jobs overseas.”

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gocart mozart  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:51:32pm
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gocart mozart  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:51:51pm
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sagehen  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:51:56pm

re: #298 lawhawk

It’s the argument the GOP spews, ignoring that there are these things called batteries that smooth power flow - allowing generation of power when the wind blows - using the excess to power batteries - and then use the batteries when wind is low. Same with solar.

So you’re saying my solar panels will still allow me to flip a light switch AT NIGHT!?!

Truly we live in a wondrous age.

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Belafon  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:52:48pm

re: #341 BeachDem

Ben’s also replying to Walter Shaub:

re: #346 Backwoods_Sleuth

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teleskiguy  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:53:19pm
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dangerman  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:54:00pm

re: #363 Hecuba’s daughter

He really does not care about any supposed Republican values: religion, abortion, anti-environment, anti-global warming. The only true values he holds are that he is racist to the core and that he is authoritarian, and a greedy self promoter. He knew he could not run as a Democrat because his history of racism would not appeal to their core constituency. And Democrats tend to favor candidates who actually know something about issues.

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nines09  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:54:33pm

re: #351 Stanley Sea

I’ve been on the DL, not really here as often as I was. I’m always logged in. Just not at the keyboard. Hello to you Stanley. Hope all is well. My attitude has gone to shit, and I’d much rather not sit in my own fry pan. I sat here and typed, and then cleared a load of thoughts. Some days lighter, some days….

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Belafon  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:55:03pm

re: #356 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

A suggestion to everyone: Keep this tweet. Remind yourself of how popular Trump is. Remind yourself that while we have a lot of work to do, there are a whole lot of people who do not like Trump.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:55:24pm

re: #356 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

That’s a big fucking sign.

Plus the polls today.

He’s definitely firing the new event manager, and freaking the fuck out.

Wonder how many times he asked Hope what she said?

Pile on Friday for the yam

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nines09  Dec 8, 2017 • 6:56:57pm

I killed the thread. Yep. Well, we can listen to this as the new one grows…

Tom Waits - Chocolate Jesus

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wheat-dogg  Dec 8, 2017 • 7:01:16pm

re: #269 Stanley Sea

Is anyone else watching The Crown on Netflix?

I’m reading that season 2 ep 1&2 have dropped, but all I see is season 1.

I’m so handicapped, cannot figure out.

I have other ways to watch them.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 8, 2017 • 7:03:32pm

re: #371 teleskiguy

[Embedded content]

I know I’ve mentioned it before, but I got to play volleyball with Adrian a couple of times when he had games for musician/sound guys in a park near his home in Urbana, Il. Also saw him in a smaller venue in Bloomington, IN in the early ’90s—so great.

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Barefoot Grin  Dec 8, 2017 • 7:04:11pm

re: #378 Barefoot Grin

I know I’ve mentioned it before, but I got to play volleyball with Adrian a couple of times when he had games for musician/sound guys in a park near his home in Urbana, Il. Also saw him in a smaller venue in Bloomington, IN in the early ’90s—so great.

Last post before a new thread. Good! I’ll get to tell my stupid story again someday.

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Jebediah, RBG  Dec 8, 2017 • 7:11:47pm

re: #306 William Lewis

Marlowe is the great unknown of English theater. It is unfortunate that he spent more time spying than scribing…

“Hell hath no limits, nor is circumscribed In one self place, for where we are is hell, And where hell is there must we ever be. ” or “While money doesn’t buy love, it puts you in a great bargaining position.” or “O, thou art fairer than the evening air clad in the beauty of a thousand stars.”

Wow - that last one!

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Stanley Sea  Dec 8, 2017 • 7:16:55pm

re: #373 nines09

I’ve been on the DL, not really here as often as I was. I’m always logged in. Just not at the keyboard. Hello to you Stanley. Hope all is well. My attitude has gone to shit, and I’d much rather not sit in my own fry pan. I sat here and typed, and then cleared a load of thoughts. Some days lighter, some days….

Mr. 9

I and all of us I would guess, are your fellow travelers. If it’s not only the politics bugging you - BIG peace to you.

I may have missed it, but there was supposed to be a lizard meet up over music.

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Stanley Sea  Dec 8, 2017 • 7:19:45pm

re: #381 Stanley Sea

ooooh another CL

May that wonderful soul RIP

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nines09  Dec 8, 2017 • 7:41:12pm

re: #381 Stanley Sea

Mr. 9

I and all of us I would guess, are your fellow travelers. If it’s not only the politics bugging you - BIG peace to you.

I may have missed it, but there was supposed to be a lizard meet up over music.

Yes. I missed it too. I was just curious. Seemed like a nice gig, hoped it went well.
Yes, this is an oasis. And I’m glad to have met the people I have spoke with here. Just my altruistic nature coming around to devour me. JFC. It never ends. Have a great evening Stanley, and it’s just nines. No Mistah. Or 09.
Thanks.

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makeitstop  Dec 8, 2017 • 8:01:17pm

re: #340 nines09

Hey. How’d your MS casino gig go?

It went well, thanks for asking! The folks at the venue were very hospitable, the crowd was great, the food was amazing, the stage crew were total pros and made everything easy. They’re already talking about having us back in the Spring.

The only things I can complain about are the weather (hoped it would be warmer), and I got the full TSA treatment when I got back to New Orleans. Full pat-down, hand swab, the works. That kinda sucked after I got put into pre-scan on the way out of NY. That’s show biz, I guess.

And I have to work on traveling lighter as far as gear. I had to take a Line 6 Pod XT Live, and I wanted to just leave it in Gulfport. I’m thinking Santa might be bringing me a Tech21 Fly Rig for Christmas, though. That’ll come in handy for a string of Florida gigs I gotta do in January.

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makeitstop  Dec 8, 2017 • 8:07:30pm

re: #351 Stanley Sea

Yeah, I missed the report & the hopefully lizard meet-up

The meetup unfortunately didn’t happen. It will next time. I still owe Eclectic a beer. :)


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