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Ace-o-aces  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:24:36pm
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Kragar  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:26:01pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:28:37pm

re: #2 Kragar

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Yes, we know. And you’re a fascist just like your aunt and grandpa.

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KGxvi  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:29:18pm

re: #1 Ace-o-aces

The curse of living in a near paradise is that when we have actual weather, people don’t know how to respond.

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lawhawk  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:29:23pm

re: #2 Kragar

Vichy Nazis.

Yeah, they’re real, and they suck.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:31:15pm

re: #5 lawhawk

Vichy Nazis.

Yeah, they’re real, and they suck.

Grandpa LePen is a Holocaust denier.

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Kragar  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:31:31pm
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Kragar  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:35:55pm
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ObserverArt  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:36:47pm

Attacking the FBI as the NRAs Wayne LaPierre did today is sure a strange tact.

I hope this really pisses of the entire law enforcement community (minus the gun nut, wingnut types) and they build pressure on Republicans, the NRA and the media to make some big changes in gun laws, etc.

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KGxvi  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:37:48pm

re: #6 HappyWarrior

Grandpa LePen is a Holocaust denier.

I’ve always kind of known of LePen, I remember he ran for president of France when I was in college, I want to say. But I’ve never known much about him, reading his biography, it reads like a bad take on a Hemmingway character. Orphaned at 14 when his father’s boat was destroyed by a mine (1942). Rejected at 16 for the French Forces of the Interior. So he went to law school where he sold a monarchist magazine (the fuck?). Then joined the Foreign Legion and made it to Indochina just in time for France to get out. And managed a presidential campaign in the 60s based on rehabilitating the collaborationists.

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NetworkKed  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:38:12pm

re: #7 Kragar

I can’t see any Wonka material anymore without having flashbacks to being told about snozzberries. Nice tweet, tho.

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KGxvi  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:39:18pm

re: #8 Kragar

FUCKING TODAY!??!?!?!?! DID HE FUCKING LEARN NOTHING?

I swear, I thought that was on old tweet. Fuck that is embarassing.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:39:43pm

re: #10 KGxvi

I’ve always kind of known of LePen, I remember he ran for president of France when I was in college, I want to say. But I’ve never known much about him, reading his biography, it reads like a bad take on a Hemmingway character. Orphaned at 14 when his father’s boat was destroyed by a mine (1942). Rejected at 16 for the French Forces of the Interior. So he went to law school where he sold a monarchist magazine (the fuck?). Then joined the Foreign Legion and made it to Indochina just in time for France to get out. And managed a presidential campaign in the 60s based on rehabilitating the collaborationists.

Yeah he’s had quite an interesting ride. Btw lots of French monarchists of his generation.

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Woods Witch  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:40:40pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:40:43pm

Afternoon/Evening Lizardim.

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ObserverArt  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:40:45pm

Uh oh…breaking news at MSNBC after commercial. New charges in Mueller probe. Looks like it might be more on Manafort…something to do with taxes…if the chyron they flashed before going to commercial is correct.

to add: I see Woods Witch caught the info. 32 counts!

They are really sweating Manafort.

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KGxvi  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:41:22pm

re: #13 HappyWarrior

Yeah he’s had quite an interesting ride. Btw lots of French monarchists of his generation.

Just weird since they hadn’t had a King or Emperor for a solid 50 years before he was born.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:42:05pm

re: #17 KGxvi

Just weird since they hadn’t had a King or Emperor for a solid 50 years before he was born.

Oh it is for sure.

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NetworkKed  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:42:46pm

re: #16 ObserverArt

Uh oh…breaking news at MSNBC after commercial. New charges in Mueller probe.

Yay, I think? Though if they’re hitting Manafort with more maybe he’s not flipping, so boo?

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KGxvi  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:43:25pm

re: #14 Woods Witch

23 counts relating to tax issues, split fairly evenly between Gates and Manafort. And then 9 counts of bank fraud involving both of them.

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Woods Witch  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:45:10pm

re: #20 KGxvi

Follow the money

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JordanRules  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:45:21pm

re: #14 Woods Witch

Oh goodie!!!!!!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:45:36pm

Just like me to enter right as the big news breaks.///

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Belafon  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:46:39pm

re: #19 NetworkKed

Yay, I think? Though if they’re hitting Manafort with more maybe he’s not flipping, so boo?

I’ll have to find it later, but the theory is that he’s so dirty they actually don’t want him on their side. Not only could you not trust anything he actually says, but he could end up taking the blame for everything (think Ollie North), and he’s more useful being the one guy they bust hard.

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KGxvi  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:47:47pm

re: #21 Woods Witch

Follow the money

The government is alleging about $25.5m in bank fraud, in 2016 through January 2017.

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JordanRules  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:48:22pm

re: #24 Belafon

That makes sense. There are so many dirty players, I imagine they do have options.

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Kragar  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:51:02pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:52:55pm

re: #27 Kragar

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This administration is a real live Producers.

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dangerman  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:54:31pm

re: #27 Kragar

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this!

all of them

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:55:10pm
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Scout  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:55:35pm

One of my dearest friends in the States has a son who is a senior in high school.

He sent me this text:

I asked my son if his friends had talked about arming teachers. He said, “Yeah, like Mr. Schultz, who threw a chair at a student.” And yes, he hit the student. It wasn’t just a stunt to get his attention.

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Woods Witch  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:55:36pm

re: #28 HappyWarrior

All the ineptitude without the humor

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lawhawk  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:56:39pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:56:45pm

re: #30 Ace-o-aces

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Idiots. Dynamite was and is regulated.

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ObserverArt  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:57:36pm

Nicole Wallace just took a major dump on Manafort.

She said that everyone in Washington Politics knew prior to Trump even running that Manafort had a real sleazy client list and that he was dirty. She said she knew that from the McCain campaign in 2008.

So it is looking more and more like Manafort IS the connection to the Russians from the Trump campaign.

Trump: “I never had anything to do with the Russians. There was no collusion!!!

What Trump didn’t say: That was all done through Paul Manafort.

I think we are getting real close to Mueller driving a stake into the evil heart of The Trump Presidency.

The second he gets Gates or Manafort, or someone we may not know yet, to make the connections of Russia > Manafort > Trump campaign…it wouldn’t surprise me Mueller brings charges against the campaign and Trump.

We are approaching one year of Mueller on the case. Might there be a BIG anniversary?

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lawhawk  Feb 22, 2018 • 1:58:04pm

re: #14 Woods Witch

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:04:54pm

re: #30 Ace-o-aces

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They probably think the Mythbusters bought all of their explosives off of Amazon, and only had the experts around for safety.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:05:26pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:06:59pm

re: #38 Ace-o-aces

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Yeah because bikers are trained security professionals. Good grief Trumpers are some painfully stupid people.

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MsJ  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:08:31pm

re: #20 KGxvi

23 counts relating to tax issues, split fairly evenly between Gates and Manafort. And then 9 counts of bank fraud involving both of them.

How many years did Al Capone get?

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KGxvi  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:09:02pm

re: #39 HappyWarrior

Yeah because bikers are trained security professionals. Good grief Trumpers are some painfully stupid people.

(just wait until meth starts showing up in schools)

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nines09  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:09:05pm

re: #38 Ace-o-aces

More meth sales brewing….

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Kilroy was here  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:09:52pm

Show this to the next guy who says the AR-15 (AR=Assault Rifle) isn’t an Assault Rifle..

Sorta like global warming vs climate change.. BS to distract

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jeffreyw  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:10:02pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:10:03pm

re: #38 Ace-o-aces

He’s bonkers, and I’d tell him so, but I’m blocked. I assume that’s from when he said something insane in the past.

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Kilroy was here  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:12:16pm

Gov. Greitens indicted on felony charges for invasion of privacy
abc17news.com

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Belafon  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:13:02pm

re: #44 jeffreyw

I’m a bit behind the news I guess? Why?

Edit: Never mind: #46

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KGxvi  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:14:25pm

re: #47 Belafon

I’m a bit behind the news I guess? Why?

Apparently, he was having an affair, had his girlfriend tied up and blindfolded and then took a picture without her consent. Then threatened to release said photo if she ever spoke about the affair.

You know, good Christian family values

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MsJ  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:14:55pm

re: #27 Kragar

They expected and wanted trump to lose. This was the lead in to TrumpTV where they’d be to the right of Fox (and Hitler), probably surpassing Alex Jones in the insanity dept, and spend 24/7 railing on Democrats. Now Fox is the nutty right channel with things like Alex Jones being not even in the same universe as sentient humans.

Trump was never supposed to win. Now all these criminals are screwed.

Some kind of poetic retribution justice right there.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:15:07pm

re: #46 Kilroy was here

Gov. Greitens indicted on felony charges for invasion of privacy
abc17news.com

Family values and coming to a value voters summit near you.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:16:56pm

re: #48 KGxvi

Apparently, he was having an affair, had his girlfriend tied up and blindfolded and then took a picture without her consent. Then threatened to release said photo if she ever spoke about the affair.

You know, good Christian family values

And now he’s doing the perp-walk in front of everybody. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

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Belafon  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:18:31pm

re: #51 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

And now he’s doing the perp-walk in front of everybody. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

Someone needs to take that video and put Trump’s face on it.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:22:12pm
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JordanRules  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:25:13pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:26:22pm

re: #53 Ace-o-aces

Speaking of bad timing

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Renaissance_Man  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:26:59pm

re: #49 MsJ

They expected and wanted trump to lose. This was the lead in to TrumpTV where they’d be to the right of Fox (and Hitler), probably surpassing Alex Jones in the insanity dept, and spend 24/7 railing on Democrats. Now Fox is the nutty right channel with things like Alex Jones being not even in the same universe as sentient humans.

Trump was never supposed to win. Now all these criminals are screwed.

Some kind of poetic retribution justice right there.

Everyone was surprised by just how insane Americans are. In retrospect, we shouldn’t have been.

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jeffreyw  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:27:27pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:28:07pm

re: #57 jeffreyw

I don’t know why, but this has me dying of laughter.

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Stanley Sea  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:30:24pm

More good news.

I hope this cretin goes down hard

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:31:58pm

Escalation
es*ca*la*tion
/ˌeskəˈlāSH(ə)n/
noun
a rapid increase; a rise.
“cost escalations”
synonyms: increase, rise, hike, growth, leap, upsurge, upturn, climb More
an increase in the intensity or seriousness of something; an intensification.
“an escalation of violence”

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Don't Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:33:16pm

re: #57 jeffreyw

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Hello Dad, I’m In Jail

(too soon?)

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MsJ  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:37:26pm

re: #61 Don’t Blame Me, I Voted for Kodos

(too soon?)

Nope!

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Decatur Deb  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:38:38pm

re: #43 Kilroy was here

Show this to the next guy who says the AR-15 (AR=Assault Rifle) isn’t an Assault Rifle..

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Sorta like global warming vs climate change.. BS to distract

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Woods Witch  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:40:25pm

“The media loves mass shootings” is officially an NRA talking point. And it’s making my skin crawl

Vox

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:40:26pm

Suggested post on FB:

16 Things You’ve Been Doing Completely Wrong!

FUCK YOU!! Who are you to tell me I’m doing things wrong?!?
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KGxvi  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:41:11pm

re: #56 Renaissance_Man

Everyone was surprised by just how insane Americans are. In retrospect, we shouldn’t have been.

The amazing thing is, 80,000 votes or so in three states go the other way, and we have a completely different conversation.

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Kilroy was here  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:43:07pm

re: #63 Decatur Deb

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Stanley Sea  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:44:46pm

For Beach & Sleuth -

Sister Sarah, still a fashion icon

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ozharas  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:46:05pm

re: #55 FormerDirtDart

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:46:22pm

re: #68 Stanley Sea

For Beach & Sleuth -

Sister Sarah, still a fashion icon

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Whoa. Looks like she shops at thift shops.

In the dark.

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JordanRules  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:46:50pm

re: #68 Stanley Sea

She…she doesn’t look well. Besides the fashion being a hot mess, she looks a mess.

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makeitstop  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:49:41pm

re: #68 Stanley Sea

For Beach & Sleuth -

Sister Sarah, still a fashion icon

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She looks like she just came off a wicked bender.

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ObserverArt  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:50:46pm

re: #64 Woods Witch

“The media loves mass shootings” is officially an NRA talking point. And it’s making my skin crawl

Vox

Dana Loesch at CPAC.

Saw the video on MSNBC. She even bent down low and got close to the mics with a stern look on her face as she spit it out with as much scorn as she could muster.

I think she was acting. That’s a thing right? It is what the NRA hired her for isn’t it?

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Bubblehead II  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:51:06pm

Starting to look like the “good guy with a gun” didn’t do the job he was hired for.

Broward County Sheriff suspends deputy after footage shows he never went into the school during Parkland massacre

Israel said that when he watched the footage of the deputy staying outside while children were being killed inside “made me sick.”

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BeachDem  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:51:26pm

re: #70 Blind Frog Belly White

Whoa. Looks like she shops at thift shops.in her kids’ closets

In the dark.

And the hair—dear dog, the hair.

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Jay C  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:51:26pm

re: #17 KGxvi

Just weird since they hadn’t had a King or Emperor for a solid 50 years before he was born.

Weird it is, but French monarchism was always a sort of “traditionalist” sort of anti-democratic movement: more-or-less fascism without the vulgar populism : and of course, government by the “right” sort of people with official Catholicism as a bonus.
No surprise creatures like Le Pen were attracted to it….

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KGxvi  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:52:08pm

re: #71 JordanRules

She…she doesn’t look well. Besides the fashion being a hot mess, she looks a mess.

Day drinking, and being a grandma at 45, will do that to you.

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makeitstop  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:52:19pm

You gotta be fucking kidding me.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:52:55pm

re: #68 Stanley Sea

For Beach & Sleuth -

Sister Sarah, still a fashion icon

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Bristol’s facial surgery isn’t aging very well.

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nines09  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:53:08pm

re: #72 makeitstop

She looks like she just came off a wicked bender.

The 8 ball deal at the IHOP parking lot fell through.

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BeachDem  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:53:27pm

re: #73 ObserverArt

Dana Loesch at CPAC.

Saw the video on MSNBC. She even bent down low and got close to the mics with a stern look on her face as she spit it out with as much scorn as she could muster.

I think she was acting. That’s a thing right? It is what the NRA hired her for isn’t it?

She has one expression—resting sneer face.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:53:33pm

Florida House approves bill to post “In God We Trust” in all public schools
tampabay.com

Trust in God, kids, because you sure as shit can’t trust your elected officials.

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A dark and stormy covfefe  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:53:44pm

re: #75 BeachDem

As the late, great, Bobby Heenan was wont to say:

“That’s a nice haircut. Who cuts it? The state?

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:53:58pm

re: #72 makeitstop

She looks like she just came off a wicked bender.

My impression was drunk bang / one nighter

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JordanRules  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:54:04pm

re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have no idea which one she is.

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ObserverArt  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:55:01pm

re: #68 Stanley Sea

For Beach & Sleuth -

Sister Sarah, still a fashion icon

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WTF???

I guess it is true. Sarah is a meth head. She is looking a little rough.

And I’m not even going to touch the ‘fashions’ she is wearing. But someone should tell her she is 54 not 12.

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Skip Intro  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:55:04pm

re: #85 JordanRules

I have no idea which one she is.

She’s the one with the big wedding ring next to Trashy Mom. Must be an old picture.

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KGxvi  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:55:18pm

This seems significant:

The First National Bank of Omaha has decided to cut ties with the National Rifle Association in a national moment of reckoning over gun control.

Citing complaints from customers, the company’s First Bankcard division will no longer issue NRA-branded Visa credit cards touted by the gun-rights group as a special benefit of membership after the current contract between the two parties expires.

You want to take someone down, go after their sponsors.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:56:13pm

re: #85 JordanRules

I have no idea which one she is.

Willow is next to Sarah, Bristol is fourth from the right, Piper is second from the left.

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JordanRules  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:56:45pm

re: #87 Skip Intro

Oh wow. She looks different.
Mom holding on for dear life.

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Woods Witch  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:56:45pm

re: #81 BeachDem

She has one expression—resting sneer face.

Seems to be part of a whole new campaign against the media.

Because nothing supercedes the second amendment, not even the first

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:57:09pm

re: #81 BeachDem

She has one expression—resting sneer face.

She’s becoming her own Dorian Gray portrait.

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nines09  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:57:11pm

Got that ridden hard, not properly brushed, never put away, crumpled skirt, ready to lose boots, “Huh?” look.

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ObserverArt  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:57:33pm

re: #74 Bubblehead II

Starting to look like the “good guy with a gun” didn’t do the job he was hired for.

Broward County Sheriff suspends deputy after footage shows he never went into the school during Parkland massacre

Israel said that when he watched the footage of the deputy staying outside while children were being killed inside “made me sick.”

But teachers can do it!!!

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:57:39pm

re: #88 KGxvi

This seems significant:

You want to take someone down, go after their sponsors.

I figured that had happened when the NRA Visa page went down.

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Skip Intro  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:58:01pm

re: #89 Backwoods_Sleuth

Willow is next to Sarah, Bristol is fourth from the right, Piper is second from the left.

Really? What happened to her face?

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BeachDem  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:58:09pm

re: #87 Skip Intro

She’s the one with the big wedding ring next to Trashy Mom. Must be an old picture.

Nope—that’s Willow, standing on tippie toes for some reason—Bristol is the one in the USA sweatshirt. Piper is second from the left. (I am sad that I know this)

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nines09  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:58:33pm

re: #68 Stanley Sea

“Fuck. That wasn’t my car. Where the fuck is my car? Fuck. Oh, man I need a key bump…..”

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Skip Intro  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:58:35pm

re: #90 JordanRules

Oh wow. She looks different.
Mom holding on for dear life.

It appears I’m wrong.

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A dark and stormy covfefe  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:58:40pm

re: #92 Blind Frog Belly White

So, if you go to her attack, there’s a photo of a really, really old woman shaking hands with Jerry Falwell?

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JordanRules  Feb 22, 2018 • 2:58:46pm

re: #90 JordanRules

Shit. Im so confused. LOL
None of them look like I remember but part of that is because the younger ones are older now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:00:03pm

re: #96 Skip Intro

Really? What happened to her face?

Bristol allegedly had “jaw surgery” after her Dancing with the Stars gig.
Apparently her chin, nose, eyes and cheekbones are all part of her “jaw”.

Looks like she’s lost a ton of weight, too.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:00:54pm

This thread is now petty af and I’m OK with that.

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BeachDem  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:01:50pm

re: #102 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bristol allegedly had “jaw surgery” after her Dancing with the Stars gig.
Apparently her chin, nose, eyes and cheekbones are all part of her “jaw”.

Looks like she’s lost a ton of weight, too.

It’s that diet tea crap she’s hawking because getting a job is just not in the Palin genetic makeup.

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makeitstop  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:01:59pm

re: #103 goddamnedfrank

This thread is now petty af and I’m OK with that.

We work with the subject matter they hand to us.

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JordanRules  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:02:04pm

I’d just like to submit that I have looked a hot mess and only long days and alcohol were involved. Don’t need dick for that. IJS

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:02:20pm

re: #97 BeachDem

Nope—that’s Willow, standing on tippie toes for some reason—Bristol is the one in the USA sweatshirt. Piper is second from the left. (I am sad that I know this)

But where are Camshaft and Spackle?

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KGxvi  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:02:21pm

re: #103 goddamnedfrank

This thread is now petty af and I’m OK with that.

One last thought on the photo… am I the only one that thinks the intent was to promptly crop Sarah out of it?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:02:23pm
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JordanRules  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:02:45pm

re: #108 KGxvi

Yes!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:03:31pm
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Renaissance_Man  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:04:52pm

re: #66 KGxvi

The amazing thing is, 80,000 votes or so in three states go the other way, and we have a completely different conversation.

Well, yes and no. We’d have a different president and different policies, but I don’t know how different the national tone and the body politic would be.

If Hillary were President, the howling hordes of the far right would be being whipped to a frenzy every day by FOX and other cult media. They would be in attack mode against the President and America itself, instead of attacking the FBI and media and trying to sweep the indefensible under the rug. We’d still have over 62 million people in America who were perfectly fine with an evil, self-centred king, and we’d still be hearing from Trump every day on CNN, and they would still treat him with deference and forget about his failings after a couple of days. They’d be attacking Hillary every day, instead of remembering to do it every couple of weeks or so.

Whoever won in 2016, we would still have to deal with the reality that at least 20% of Americans, and over 40% of the voting public, would happily send you and I to the camps because American media has taught them to hate for fun and convinced them that their hate is perfectly acceptable and normal.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:05:31pm

Seeing that it’s Florida, shouldn’t that be a Seminole moment?
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KGxvi  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:07:12pm

re: #109 Backwoods_Sleuth

Gates was represented by Tom Green, the go-to guy for political scandals. He as a second chair attorney managed to get a Watergate conspirator off. The fact Gates wouldn’t listen to him (that’s the only conclusion I can draw from firing a guy who was trying to negotiate a plea deal for you), is just another reminder that this is truly Stupid Watergate.

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scottslemmons  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:08:34pm

re: #113 Blind Frog Belly White

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Seeing that it’s Florida, shouldn’t that be a Seminole moment?
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Bubblehead II  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:08:38pm

re: #94 ObserverArt

But teachers can do it!!!

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:08:53pm

re: #114 KGxvi

Gates was represented by Tom Green, the go-to guy for political scandals. He as a second chair attorney managed to get a Watergate conspirator off. The fact Gates wouldn’t listen to him (that’s the only conclusion I can draw from firing a guy who was trying to negotiate a plea deal for you), is just another reminder that this is truly Stupid Watergate.

“I’m sorry, but this deal’s still not good enough!”

“Okay, how about I sweeten the pot with a shitload of new charges?”

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nines09  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:09:39pm

re: #103 goddamnedfrank

This thread is now petty af and I’m OK with that.

We only work the clay that is offered.

Sarah was still looking for JC, the guy who never showed up at the IHOP 8 ball deal that fell through…….in the photo it looks like she thinks she may….no…dammit…not him….where the fuck is my car.. and……………
Who’s fucking skirt am I wearing??!!??
WHERE DESE BOOTS COM FRUM?

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ObserverArt  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:10:53pm

re: #102 Backwoods_Sleuth

Bristol allegedly had “jaw surgery” after her Dancing with the Stars gig.
Apparently her chin, nose, eyes and cheekbones are all part of her “jaw”.

Looks like she’s lost a ton of weight, too.

She must have gotten into mom’s stash.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:11:57pm
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BeachDem  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:11:58pm

re: #118 nines09

We only work the clay that is offered.

Sarah was still looking for JC, the guy who never showed up at the IHOP 8 ball deal that fell through…….in the photo it looks like she thinks she may….no…dammit…not him….where the fuck is my car.. and……………
Who’s fucking skirt am I wearing??!!??
WHERE DESE BOOTS COM FRUM?

Maybe they had all just heard this news:

Mama grizzly Sarah Palin is roaring mad over her estranged son-in-law’s bid to get her daughter, Bristol, to pay his legal fees in the couple’s bitter divorce, radaronline.com has learned exclusively!

In papers filed in Texas’ Travis County, Bristol’s baby daddy — Medal of Honor recipient Dakota Meyer — asked the judge to force Bristol to cover his “attorney fees, expenses and costs through the trial.”

“Sarah is furious!” dished a source close to the former GOP vice presidential candidate.

“What’s really beyond any reasonable expectation is Dakota’s belief that Bristol would EVER give him any money for this divorce!” said an insider.

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JordanRules  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:12:25pm

Knit deez!

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KGxvi  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:12:29pm

re: #112 Renaissance_Man

Well, yes and no. We’d have a different president and different policies, but I don’t know how different the national tone and the body politic would be.

If Hillary were President, the howling hordes of the far right would be being whipped to a frenzy every day by FOX and other cult media. They would be in attack mode against the President and America itself, instead of attacking the FBI and media and trying to sweep the indefensible under the rug. We’d still have over 62 million people in America who were perfectly fine with an evil, self-centred king, and we’d still be hearing from Trump every day on CNN, and they would still treat him with deference and forget about his failings after a couple of days. They’d be attacking Hillary every day, instead of remembering to do it every couple of weeks or so.

Whoever won in 2016, we would still have to deal with the reality that at least 20% of Americans, and over 40% of the voting public, would happily send you and I to the camps because American media has taught them to hate for fun and convinced them that their hate is perfectly acceptable and normal.

We wouldn’t have had another attempt at repealing Obamacare, we wouldn’t have had a joke of a tax bill, we wouldn’t have the fake DACA crisis (created because Trump unilaterally rescinded the program), we wouldn’t have had the Muslim ban and it’s related fiasco. We would have a more moderate US Supreme Court rather than the polarized one we have now. And we wouldn’t (one would hope) be careening from one scandal to the next with the occasional stop for a mild constitutional crisis.

So, yeah, I think it’d be completely different. That said, I’m not sure it’d be better. A lot of what you mentioned would still be festering under the surface and a lot of people wouldn’t want to talk about it in polite company. And it could have come back around in 2020 to be very bad, not good (you have to go back to FDR to find one party winning four straight presidential elections).

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bill d. (b.d.)  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:12:52pm

re: #78 makeitstop

You gotta be fucking kidding me.

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OK, now I’m confused

Does this make him a good guy with a gun or a bad guy with a gun?

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:14:17pm

re: #114 KGxvi

Gates was represented by Tom Green, the go-to guy for political scandals. He as a second chair attorney managed to get a Watergate conspirator off. The fact Gates wouldn’t listen to him (that’s the only conclusion I can draw from firing a guy who was trying to negotiate a plea deal for you), is just another reminder that this is truly Stupid Watergate.

Backing out after the qfad interview is almost unheard of, no?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:14:30pm

re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth

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And this is what drives me crazy. The attempt to link firearms ownership with the Bible. It’s a man given right.

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KGxvi  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:14:59pm

re: #125 goddamnedfrank

Backing out after the qfad interview is almost unheard of, no?

I don’t know enough criminal procedure to know anything.

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Bubblehead II  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:15:40pm

re: #124 bill d. (b.d.)

OK, now I’m confused

Does this make him a good guy with a gun or a bad guy with a gun?

The word coward comes to mind.

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nines09  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:16:03pm

re: #121 BeachDem

Nah. I’m going with the failed IHOP deal.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:16:19pm

re: #123 KGxvi

We wouldn’t have had another attempt at repealing Obamacare, we wouldn’t have had a joke of a tax bill, we wouldn’t have the fake DACA crisis (created because Trump unilaterally rescinded the program), we wouldn’t have had the Muslim ban and it’s related fiasco. We would have a more moderate US Supreme Court rather than the polarized one we have now. And we wouldn’t (one would hope) be careening from one scandal to the next with the occasional stop for a mild constitutional crisis.

So, yeah, I think it’d be completely different. That said, I’m not sure it’d be better. A lot of what you mentioned would still be festering under the surface and a lot of people wouldn’t want to talk about it in polite company. And it could have come back around in 2020 to be very bad, not good (you have to go back to FDR to find one party winning four straight presidential elections).

It’d be different. TBH I was dreading 2020 because of a narrative of Dem WH fatigue. It’s frust where we are but we will make the best of this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:16:38pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:17:09pm

So a trained official doesn’t take it seriously but we’re supposed to expect teachers to?

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ObserverArt  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:17:20pm

re: #116 Bubblehead II

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I guess the deputies know what an AR can do against their pistols, if they actually get a shot off before falling to the ground wounded or worse.

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JordanRules  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:17:53pm

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

The deets. This is what I’ve been waiting for!
All the speed readers are now revealing what’s in there.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:18:09pm

re: #131 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Your daily reminder that Pence is VP because of Moscow Manafort.

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BlueGrl21  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:20:22pm

re: #64 Woods Witch

“The media loves mass shootings” is officially an NRA talking point. And it’s making my skin crawl

Vox

Was talking to a friend at work today. We realized that the Republican Party has not only demeaned and insulted women in every way possible, they’re now going after our CHILDREN.

Anyone seen a mother when someone goes after her child?

How stupid can these people be?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:20:41pm
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Bubblehead II  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:20:58pm

re: #133 ObserverArt

I guess the deputies know what an AR can do against their pistols, if they actually get a shot off before falling to the ground wounded or worse.

IMHO it doesn’t matter. His job was to intervene. He failed to do his job and children died. An investigation needs to be done and criminal charges brought if warranted.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:21:40pm
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ObserverArt  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:22:05pm

re: #126 HappyWarrior

And this is what drives me crazy. The attempt to link firearms ownership with the Bible. It’s a man given right.

I do believe the Jesus in the Christian stories would have cast out the NRA backed gun dealers from The Temple.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:22:50pm

re: #140 ObserverArt

I do believe the Jesus in the Christian stories would have cast out the NRA backed gun dealers from The Temple.

I think the NRA would have called him a commie.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:22:51pm

re: #134 JordanRules

The deets. This is what I’ve been waiting for!
All the speed readers are now revealing what’s in there.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:23:10pm

Bear in mind that Manafort doesn’t have any immunity for the things Gates told Mueller’s team in his qfad interview. Neither does Gates’ family. This shit has nuts in it.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:23:51pm

I’ve become a big soccer fan since my kids started playing and I learned about the game. But it hurts to know how corrupt it is at the highest levels. If FIFA had any integrity it would move the World Cup from Russia. Oh, but wait: the next one is where?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:24:56pm

(more in the thread)

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MsJ  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:25:15pm

re: #68 Stanley Sea

For Beach & Sleuth -

Sister Sarah, still a fashion icon

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I don’t mean to be catty but she’s someone who just tries to hard.

Like this person I happened upon on Twitter who is trying to damn hard.

Neither is 17 no matter how hard you try.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:25:51pm

re: #139 FormerDirtDart

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Son and grandson of immigrants, husband of immigrants, doesn’t define us as a nation of immigrants.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:27:29pm

re: #145 Backwoods_Sleuth

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(more in the thread)

I’ll point out that Bart’s mortal enemy is both portrayed by a staunch Republican and is portrayed as one too. Me thinks Ted never actually watches the Simpsons and just thinks this is a cool way of trying to appear hip.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:28:06pm
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makeitstop  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:28:23pm

re: #146 MsJ

I don’t mean to be catty

Oh, go ahead. Everyone else is. :)

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gocart mozart  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:28:37pm

Is this too subtle? 1st image is Leni Riefenstahl

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KGxvi  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:29:38pm

re: #149 Backwoods_Sleuth

D. Tell your kid to toughen the fuck up and give them a rock to use “for self defense”

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:31:29pm

re: #151 gocart mozart

Is this too subtle? 1st image is Leni Riefenstahl

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I’m old enough to remember when the NRA acted like we shouldn’t criticize the police.

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makeitstop  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:32:47pm
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JordanRules  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:33:57pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:34:32pm

re: #154 makeitstop

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Ralph is a nice kid. They’re the party of Burns, Sideshow Bob,

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JordanRules  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:34:49pm
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KGxvi  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:35:14pm

re: #155 JordanRules

Going to be hard to get bills passed in Missouri with the governor… preoccupied.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:36:12pm

re: #155 JordanRules

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So lemme get this straight it’s a business’s right to ban lgbt consumers but they can’t ban guns? Yeah…you’re all about freedom GOP. Ever think some of us don’t want stupid guns in our place of business?

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:36:39pm
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KGxvi  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:38:03pm

re: #156 HappyWarrior

Ralph is a nice kid. They’re the party of Burns, Sideshow Bob,

This is how the show portrayed the Republican Party:

Mahok! (The Simpsons)

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:38:55pm

re: #144 Barefoot Grin

Qatar.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:39:15pm

re: #161 KGxvi

This is how the show portrayed the Republican Party:

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Note Ted, it’s a No Homer club.

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ObserverArt  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:39:22pm

re: #138 Bubblehead II

IMHO it doesn’t matter. His job was to intervene. He failed to do his job and children died. An investigation needs to be done and criminal charges brought if warranted.

I totally agree. I was just saying the deputies know the situation with having to take on a guy with a 30 round AR15 semi-auto. And they were hesitant.

Why would anyone expect a teacher to be brave enough to do the job Trump and the NRA want them to take on.

How about we have Wayne LaPierre be our first test of how well this would work using paint guns, one a semi auto rifle type and one pistol type.

Set up a school for the test. Put Wayne with a concealed pistol somewhere in the school. Add all the noise of kids changing classes when an alarm goes off and gunshots are heard. Screaming kids run all over the place in panic.

Wayne has to work his way through all the commotion and try to take down the guy with the rifle.

If Wayne does not get the “perp” and he gets shot instead, and/or Wayne hits any of the students and still doesn’t get his target he has to resign as the head of the NRA and the NRA has to change their stance on assault rifles and background checks.

How about it Wayne? You up for that?

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MsJ  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:40:04pm

re: #151 gocart mozart

Is this too subtle? 1st image is Leni Riefenstahl

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Far too. The right people will get it. The people who need to get it will go “oooh, pretty”.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:40:36pm

re: #157 JordanRules

Fake news.

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KGxvi  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:41:10pm

re: #162 Ace Rothstein

Quatar.

Where the stadiums are being built, more or less, with slave labor.

And nobody seems to care.

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Dave In Austin  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:41:33pm

Thread

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KGxvi  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:42:45pm

re: #157 JordanRules

Look, cut the guy some slack, it’s the only way he can talk to his dad, through the TV.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:43:29pm

re: #155 JordanRules

ALERT:
HB 1936, which would outlaw gun-free zones in MO, is back. It would become illegal to bar guns from anywhere.
(snip)
Gun nuts are planning to pack the hearing.

Will they be allowed to bring their guns?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:43:59pm

re: #168 Dave In Austin

Thread

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It doesn’t really shock me. WF Buckley was the Ben Shapiro of his era. A shsllow, condescending twat.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:44:23pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:45:25pm

re: #172 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Long overdue.

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ObserverArt  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:47:40pm

re: #148 HappyWarrior

I’ll point out that Bart’s mortal enemy is both portrayed by a staunch Republican and is portrayed as one too. Me thinks Ted never actually watches the Simpsons and just thinks this is a cool way of trying to appear hip.

The Simpsons are almost 30 years old. Uh, I guess that could be considered hip to a bunch of old stuffed-shirt conservatives at CPAC.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:47:49pm

re: #173 HappyWarrior

Should never have needed a ban to begin with. It’s as no-brainer as it gets.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:48:38pm
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wrenchwench  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:49:06pm

re: #172 Backwoods_Sleuth

[JUST IN: Oregon passes bill banning gun ownership for people with domestic violence convictions]

That will save as many cops as it does people in those domestic situations. Or more.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:52:32pm

re: #176 Backwoods_Sleuth

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David Frum wrote a parable about the gun debate in America, based around a tribe of people who insist on living in a lowland that is being flooded with increasing frequency.

Some members of the tribe say they should build their houses on stilts to keep them above the water. Other say the proper term is piles, not stilts, so why should they listen to people who don’t know the right terminology.

Other tribes who live on higher ground wonder why the lowland tribe doesn’t just move.

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ObserverArt  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:53:02pm

re: #171 HappyWarrior

It doesn’t really shock me. WF Buckley was the Ben Shapiro of his era. A shsllow, condescending twat.

I never liked Buckley, but there is no way Ben should even be compared. Just my opinion. Buckley was an ass, but he did know better than to say some of the stupid crap that flows out of Benny.

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JordanRules  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:53:06pm

re: #174 ObserverArt

30 years strong attests to the fact that they defy conventional pop culture shelf life. They aren’t the hippest kid on the block any more but they still have a formidable space in the zeitgeist.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:53:44pm
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gocart mozart  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:55:57pm

re: #154 makeitstop

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KGxvi  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:56:11pm

re: #180 JordanRules

30 years strong attests to the fact that they defy conventional pop culture shelf life. They aren’t the hippest kid on the block any more but they still have a formidable space in the zeitgeist.

30 year run for the Simpsons, 21 years for South Park.

Hell, Archer is going to get 10 years.

It is a strange world we live in.

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The Major  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:58:10pm

re: #179 ObserverArt

Buckley was an ass, but he did know better than to say some of the stupid crap that flows out of Benny.

Today’s crop of conservatives couldn’t carry Buckley’s water. Shapiro is nothing more than a Gish Galloper.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:58:31pm
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The Major  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:59:48pm

re: #178 Blind Frog Belly White

Other tribes who live on higher ground wonder why the lowland tribe doesn’t just move.

This brought back memories….

One Tin Soldier The Legend of Billy Jack

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 3:59:55pm

re: #179 ObserverArt

I never liked Buckley, but there is no way Ben should even be compared. Just my opinion. Buckley was an ass, but he did know better than to say some of the stupid crap that flows out of Benny.

Fair enough.

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ObserverArt  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:00:11pm

re: #180 JordanRules

30 years strong attests to the fact that they defy conventional pop culture shelf life. They aren’t the hippest kid on the block any more but they still have a formidable space in the zeitgeist.

Oh, I wasn’t putting down the Simpsons. Just that Happy’s use of “hip” in regards to Teddy Cruz is a stretch because hip usually means within a recent new trend in a fashion.

Hell, I’m old enough to remember the “don’t trust anyone over 30” thinking back in the 60s. That was an indication of generational thinking.

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JordanRules  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:00:17pm

re: #184 The Major

I know a gay black writer who drank his “respectable bigot” milkshake though.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:00:52pm

re: #59 Stanley Sea

More good news.

I hope this cretin goes down hard

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Awwwww, Governor 50 Shades Of Kink faw down and go boom

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:01:22pm

heya Happy:

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nines09  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:01:39pm
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The Major  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:03:27pm

re: #185 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:03:39pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:04:52pm

re: #172 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ummm, the Domestic Violence Offender Gun Ban of 1996, (ie, the Lautenberg Amendment) already denies access to firearms under federal law.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:05:39pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:08:10pm
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Bubblehead II  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:08:31pm

re: #164 ObserverArt

I totally agree. I was just saying the deputies know the situation with having to take on a guy with a 30 round AR15 semi-auto. And they were hesitant.

Why would anyone expect a teacher to be brave enough to do the job Trump and the NRA want them to take on.

How about we have Wayne LaPierre be our first test of how well this would work using paint guns, one a semi auto rifle type and one pistol type.

Set up a school for the test. Put Wayne with a concealed pistol somewhere in the school. Add all the noise of kids changing classes when an alarm goes off and gunshots are heard. Screaming kids run all over the place in panic.

Wayne has to work his way through all the commotion and try to take down the guy with the rifle.

If Wayne does not get the “perp” and he gets shot instead, and/or Wayne hits any of the students and still doesn’t get his target he has to resign as the head of the NRA and the NRA has to change their stance on assault rifles and background checks.

How about it Wayne? You up for that?

Works for me. But he would never go for it as he KNOWS he would fail and fail miserably thus disproving their good guy with a gun scenario. I am wondering how they are going to spin the actual test of a good guy with a gun failure.

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wrenchwench  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:09:58pm

re: #195 FormerDirtDart

Ummm, the Domestic Violence Offender Gun Ban of 1996, (ie, the Lautenberg Amendment) already denies access to firearms under federal law.

They can’t buy more:

Federal law bars convicted batterers from buying firearms, but often little is done to separate them from any weapons they already own.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:11:45pm

just a heads up:

Do you have a Instant Pot multicooker in your home? You may want to check if it is one of a few listed as faulty.

An Instant Pot user posted photos on Facebook saying that after using it just 4 times the bottom of the machine melted and burned some of the wires instead.

Scripps station KTNV in Las Vegas reached out to Instant Pot about the claims and it turns out this isn’t an isolated incident. “We have received a small number of reports the Gem 8-in-1 multicooker overheating, resulting in localized melting damage to the underside of the product,” said Instant Pot.

There’s no official recall for the cooker but the company says if your Instant Pot has one of the following numbers on the bottom it should be returned.

1728
1730
1731
1734
1746

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jaunte  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:12:30pm

re: #155 JordanRules

HB 1936, which would outlaw gun-free zones in MO, is back. It would become illegal to bar guns from anywhere.

MIssouri’s going to lose a lot of NRA events if that passes.

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The Major  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:13:14pm

re: #151 gocart mozart

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JordanRules  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:15:22pm
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Ace Rothstein  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:16:53pm
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allegro  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:17:41pm

re: #201 jaunte

MIssouri’s going to lose a lot of NRA events if that passes.

I hope someone points out that it would also include the legislature, yanno, them as targets too.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:18:11pm

re: #60 Unshaken Defiance

Escalation
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noun
a rapid increase; a rise.
“cost escalations”
synonyms: increase, rise, hike, growth, leap, upsurge, upturn, climb More
an increase in the intensity or seriousness of something; an intensification.
“an escalation of violence”

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Yeah, I’m pretty sure those are the SU-57s (T-50 “PAK FA”). I’m not so sure that’s Syria though.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:18:39pm

re: #202 The Major

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She’s got some nerve to complain about antisemitism after sharing a stage with Gorka and LePen.

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JordanRules  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:18:53pm

What does this mean?

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jaunte  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:21:14pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:22:40pm

re: #209 jaunte

He was a Trump supporter.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:22:58pm

re: #209 jaunte

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Sigh. We don’t. We just don’t. I’m tired of scapegoating the mentally ill for violence.

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jaunte  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:24:09pm

Lewandowski looks like a domestic violence case waiting to happen.

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Jay C  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:25:04pm

re: #212 jaunte

Lewandowski looks like a domestic violence case waiting to happen.

Victim or perp? In Corey’s case it’s hard to tell…

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jaunte  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:25:38pm

re: #213 Jay C

Perp. He’s a little too tightly wound.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:25:56pm

You want to something about mental illness? Stop scapegoating people with it. Stop cutting mental health services.

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Bubblehead II  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:26:53pm

re: #208 JordanRules

What does this mean?

New indictment with added charges superseding previous indictment. Mueller is tired of playing games with Manafort et al

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KGxvi  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:27:09pm

re: #209 jaunte

Pardon me for a dumb question but does anyone know the “mental disease” the shooter was diagnosed with?

When ever these mass shootings happen, I always hear “he was crazy.” This is especially true when the shooter is a white guy. It’s a trick they use to separate themselves from the shooter, and to relieve themselves of any liability. Because you can’t do anything about a crazy person. If you can dismiss him as crazy, rather than as a rational actor who decided he wanted to kill people, then you don’t have to consider that there are rational people who may decide they want to kill people with easily available guns. If you don’t have to consider that, if it’s either responsible gun owner or crazy person, then you don’t really need to consider gun control beyond background checks for mental illness.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:29:01pm

re: #152 KGxvi

D. Tell your kid to toughen the fuck up and give them a rock to use “for self defense”

E. Give them all AR-15s.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:29:15pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:29:23pm

re: #217 KGxvi

When ever these mass shootings happen, I always hear “he was crazy.” This is especially true when the shooter is a white guy. It’s a trick they use to separate themselves from the shooter, and to relieve themselves of any liability. Because you can’t do anything about a crazy person. If you can dismiss him as crazy, rather than as a rational actor who decided he wanted to kill people, then you don’t have to consider that there are rational people who may decide they want to kill people with easily available guns. If you don’t have to consider that, if it’s either responsible gun owner or crazy person, then you don’t really need to consider gun control beyond background checks for mental illness.

Nailed it. That’s exactly why. But it’s not even gun nuts. I think people can’t accept that a person of a sound mind could do something like that. But at the same time, I see these same people want to execute people.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:29:30pm

re: #209 jaunte

Soviets diagnosed anyone that disagreed or acted out-of-norms as mentally ill and locked them away.

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JordanRules  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:31:50pm

The hell is going on at CPAC?

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:32:38pm

re: #220 HappyWarrior

People can’t accept it’s going to be their next door neighbor or the guy that shares their church pew that’s most likely to harm them. That suggests that exterior qualities used to assess “goodness”—which generally involve “similar to me” assessments—are useless.

Crime being done by an “other” solves the problem by redefining the problem.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:33:03pm

re: #156 HappyWarrior

Ralph is a nice kid. They’re the party of Burns, Sideshow Bob,

Dr. Nick, the Monorail guy, and the Movementarian Leader.

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electrotek  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:33:17pm

Since right-wingers love to bring up the tired and untrue trope about tyrannical regimes banning guns to slaughter their citizens, have you noticed NOT a single one bothered to bring up Augusto Pinochet’s decision to initiate gun control after he deposed Allende Salvador?

It’s quite obvious, Republicans and right wingers in general prefer gun control when liberals or Muslims or any marginalized group are unarmed and become sheep open for slaughter.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:33:22pm

Scapegoating the mentally ill for gun violence is a win-win for the right: They avoid blaming the gun culture and get an additional excuse for authoritarian intrusion into private lives.

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JordanRules  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:34:27pm

re: #216 Bubblehead II

Ahh! Thank you!

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KGxvi  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:35:18pm

re: #220 HappyWarrior

Nailed it. That’s exactly why. But it’s not even gun nuts. I think people can’t accept that a person of a sound mind could do something like that. But at the same time, I see these same people want to execute people.

It’s definitely more than gun nuts. People don’t like to believe a normal person would be capable of something so bad. It’s also why you often hear some bad action “was just a mistake” and “they didn’t mean to hurt anyone” (often heard with drunk driving). I think on some level it’s because if that guy is capable of it, maybe that means I am capable of it, or the guy behind me in line at the grocery store is capable of it. And that can be terrifying. So it’s better to wish it away as a crazy person, and that way you don’t have to inconvenience anyone with a real discussion about the easy access to weapons that we have in this country.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:35:38pm

re: #210 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

He was a Trump supporter.

I wish that was brought up during the CNN townhall… and Trump’s farce of a meeting with victims.

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Skip Intro  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:41:16pm

re: #222 JordanRules

The hell is going on at CPAC?

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The New Nazi Party doesn’t want to be questioned.

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TedStriker  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:41:30pm

re: #154 makeitstop

No, Ted. Republicans are the party of people who think they’re Ned Flanders; are actually Ralph Wiggum; and who elected Montgomery Burns.
— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) February 22, 2018

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JordanRules  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:41:59pm

re: #225 electrotek

That would be a random one to grab if they were remotely inclined to which they aren’t. There are recent more examples they could use to let their empire of hypocrisy flags fly.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:42:13pm

re: #223 The Ghost of a Flea

People can’t accept it’s going to be their next door neighbor or the guy that shares their church pew that’s most likely to harm them. That suggests that exterior qualities used to assess “goodness”—which generally involve “similar to me” assessments—are useless.

Crime being done by an “other” solves the problem by redefining the problem.

Our late neighbor took a gun across the street because the kids there were launching bottle rockets. Our old neighbor in KY tried to sell us his TV antenna because God had told him to stop watching. (We got his kids to remove the firing pin from his 12ga.)

I do not intend to be the most lightly-armed liberal on my block.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:42:19pm

re: #224 GlutenFreeJesus

Dr. Nick, the Monorail guy, and the Movementarian Leader.

Na na na na leader.

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jaunte  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:42:43pm
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TedStriker  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:44:34pm

re: #156 HappyWarrior

Ralph is a nice kid. They’re the party of Burns, Sideshow Bob,

I’m guessing they may have meant Chief Wiggum there.

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jaunte  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:45:04pm

re: #236 TedStriker

Which one likes paste?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:45:29pm

re: #236 TedStriker

I’m guessing they may have meant Chief Wiggum there.

Yeah perhaps.

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VegasGolfer  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:45:45pm

re: #222 JordanRules

I wonder when gorka is gonna get his ass kicked by popping off to the wrong person.

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JordanRules  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:46:21pm

re: #239 VegasGolfer

I’m waiting on it!

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GlutenFreeJesus  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:47:12pm

We could ban calibers larger than .45. That way these assault rifle humpers can keep their rifles. ;)

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:47:36pm

re: #237 jaunte

Which one likes paste?

Ralph. Clancy is the one who is uh what cures cancer?

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:47:53pm

re: #208 JordanRules

What does this mean?

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Gates didn’t take the carrot so Mueller is showing both him and Manafort more of the stick. Textbook sandbagging, just beautiful.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:48:09pm

re: #239 VegasGolfer

I wonder when gorka is gonna get his ass kicked by popping off to the wrong person.

He’s going to tell Hermy he can’t be a dentist.

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JordanRules  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:50:01pm

re: #243 goddamnedfrank

Big bank takes lil bank.

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Decatur Deb  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:50:47pm

re: #241 GlutenFreeJesus

We could ban calibers larger than .45. That way these assault rifle humpers can keep their rifles. ;)

You won’t find much that’s bigger than .45 in the crime statistics.

(The armorer at IMI Nazareth, where the .50 Desert Eagle is made, told me: “We sold a lot of Desert Eagles after Terminator. We don’t sell much .50 ammo.”

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Bubblehead II  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:50:54pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:53:17pm

re: #240 JordanRules

I’m waiting on it!

It’ll happen and he’ll blame Soros.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:54:05pm

re: #222 JordanRules

The hell is going on at CPAC?

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Seb is trying to provoke someone who will allow him to claim wingnut martyrdom.

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:55:46pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 22, 2018 • 4:59:41pm

re: #249 Backwoods_Sleuth

Seb is trying to provoke someone who will allow him to claim wingnut martyrdom.

Or he’s looking for an excuse to murder someone. Never talk to fascists. Leave them to law-enforcement or the military.

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Scout  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:00:26pm

Here’s a short bit with the AP photographer who took the photo of trump’s crib notes reminding him to appear empathetic.
Link

Sorry, I’m on my phone right now and I don’t think the link is working. Please disregard.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:01:34pm
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goddamnedfrank  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:01:55pm

re: #223 The Ghost of a Flea

People can’t accept it’s going to be their next door neighbor or the guy that shares their church pew that’s most likely to harm them. That suggests that exterior qualities used to assess “goodness”—which generally involve “similar to me” assessments—are useless.

Crime being done by an “other” solves the problem by redefining the problem.

The overwhelming emphasis on “stranger danger” is an ingrained evolutionary cognitive bias in human perception that has become less and less applicable to modern first world living, where the saying “familiarity breeds contempt” seems far more apropos.

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BeachDem  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:04:15pm

re: #250 Ace-o-aces

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Hey, Greitens is a vet so he’s probably quite adept with firearms. Since the whole governor gig doesn’t seem to be working out, maybe he should become an armed teacher.
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Barefoot Grin  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:04:49pm

re: #222 JordanRules

The hell is going on at CPAC?

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That f***er should be deported post haste. (Oops, forgot the sarcasm tags—he’s a US citizen now, I think.)

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JordanRules  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:05:41pm
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Decatur Deb  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:06:20pm

re: #255 BeachDem

Hey, Greitens is a vet so he’s probably quite adept with firearms. Since the whole governor gig doesn’t seem to be working out, maybe he should become an armed teacher.
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Busy. When released, he’s down for technical consultant on 50 Shades of Derp.

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makeitstop  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:08:38pm

Somebody doesn’t like being shown up on national TV.

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Renaissance_Man  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:08:59pm

re: #257 JordanRules

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Armed white terrorists committing insurrection were acquitted. I’d probably be confident if I were him too.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:10:24pm
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plansbandc  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:11:53pm

re: #124 bill d. (b.d.)

It makes him a coward.

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jaunte  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:13:20pm

re: #259 makeitstop

Tiny Lorax is in the wings, ready to take her job.

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jaunte  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:13:49pm

Tawny Loofah?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:14:04pm
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plansbandc  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:14:37pm

re: #144 Barefoot Grin

Love the sport dearly, but the governing body is a nightmare.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:17:36pm

re: #259 makeitstop

Somebody doesn’t like being shown up on national TV.

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I’m sure old NRA witches piss them off too, Dana.

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Barefoot Grin  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:18:13pm

re: #212 jaunte

Lewandowski looks like a domestic violence case waiting to happen.

He’s in an ongoing case with a neighbor here in NH wherein apparently he wants to force the neighbor to give him access through their land to garages he had built on the lake front not adjacent to his house in Wyndham, NH. Former State Trooper makes good, but not quite good enough.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:18:24pm

re: #265 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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That’s nearly a decade old but still, it really shows how hollow her rhetoric was last night.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:19:51pm
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jaunte  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:19:55pm

re: #268 Barefoot Grin

garages he had built on the lake front not adjacent to his house

Poor planning.

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plansbandc  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:20:46pm

re: #202 The Major

Some’s gonna get a timeout. :D :D

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nowherenorth2  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:24:54pm

Saw on fox news Jason chaffetz and some other people were arguing that the Russian interference happens by saying america does the same thing and has done thr same thing to other nations.

True. Historically yes, and the us government has always “justified” their actions. But their argument was that it should be allowed because we did/do it

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Bubblehead II  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:25:55pm

re: #259 makeitstop

Somebody doesn’t like being shown up on national TV.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:25:57pm

I swear even people who I thought were fairly sensible conservatives are bonkers. They can’t stop whining about these kids without saying But Chicago. Okay let’s talk about Chicago. A) you’re wrong about its murder rate. B) Chicago is very close to gun lax Indiana and ignoring that while whining about Chi’s gun laws makes you look like s fool. C), you only invoke Chicago because your two most hated Dems are from there and you don’t give a fuck about those kids.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:26:32pm

re: #273 nowherenorth2

$500 in Trump Casino chips says their opinion would be a little different if Obama was President.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:27:06pm

re: #276 Ace Rothstein

$500 in Trump Casino chips says their opinion would be a little different if Obama was President.

Imagine if HRC praised Putin like Trump has.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:28:33pm

re: #275 HappyWarrior

D.) It’s the third-largest city in the country.

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The Major  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:30:11pm

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:30:34pm

re: #278 Ace Rothstein

D.) It’s the third-largest city in the country.

Fact- Chicago doesn’t have the strictest gun laws or highest homicide rate.

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makeitstop  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:32:06pm

re: #280 HappyWarrior

Fact- Chicago doesn’t have the strictest gun laws or highest homicide rate.

I don’t think it’s even in the top 10 for homicides.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:32:06pm

re: #279 The Major

Wax?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:32:33pm

re: #281 makeitstop

I don’t think it’s even in the top 10 for homicides.

I’m not sure tbh.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:32:52pm

re: #254 goddamnedfrank

The overwhelming emphasis on “stranger danger” is an ingrained evolutionary cognitive bias in human perception that has become less and less applicable to modern first world living, where the saying “familiarity breeds contempt” seems far more apropos.

Yeah, there’s that bias, but this is cultural thing. The reversibility of the proposition—person did X, now it turns out they were Not Of The Body—is where this is all about excuses to not self-examine. As in every “Bob, God told me I should fuck your wife” religion having a built in “…but everybody else wouldn’t ask so pretty before fucking your wife, because it’s total depravity out there.”

Bertold Brecht

“If sharks were men,” Mr. Keuner was asked by his landlady’s little girl, “would they be nicer to the little fishes?”


“Certainly,” he said. “If sharks were men, they would build enormous boxes in the ocean for the little fish, with all kinds of food inside, both vegetable and animal. They would take care that the boxes always had fresh water, and in general they would make all kinds of sanitary arrangements. If, for example, a little fish were to injure a fin, it would immediately be bandaged, so that it would not die and be lost to the sharks before its time. So that the little fish would not become melancholy, there would be big water festivals from time to time; because cheerful fish taste better than melancholy ones.

“There would, of course, also be schools in the big boxes. In these schools the little fish would learn how to swim into the sharks’ jaws. They would need to know geography, for example, so that they could find the big sharks, who lie idly around somewhere. The principal subject would, of course, be the moral education of the little fish. They would be taught that it would be the best and most beautiful thing in the world if a little fish sacrificed itself cheerfully and that they all had to believe the sharks, especially when the latter said they were providing for a beautiful future. The little fish would be taught that this future is assured only if they learned obedience. The little fish had to beware of all base, materialist, egotistical and Marxist inclinations, and if one of their number betrayed such inclinations they had to report it to the sharks immediately.

“If sharks were men, they would, of course, also wage wars against one another, in order to conquer other fish boxes and other little fish. The wars would be waged by their own little fish. They would teach their little fish that there was an enormous difference between themselves and the little fish belonging to the other sharks. Little fish, they would announce, are well known to be mute, but they are silent in quite different languages and hence find it impossible to understand one another. Each little fish that, in a war, killed a couple of other little fish, enemy ones, silent in their own language, would have a little order made of seaweed pinned to it and be awarded the title of hero.

“If sharks were men, there would, of course, also be art. There would be beautiful pictures, in which the sharks’ teeth would be portrayed in magnificent colors and their jaws as pure pleasure gardens, in which one could romp about splendidly. The theaters at the bottom of the sea would show heroic little fish swimming enthusiastically into the jaws of sharks, and the music would be so beautiful that to the accompaniment of its sounds, the orchestra leading the way, the little fish would stream dreamily into the sharks’ jaws, lulled by the most agreeable thoughts.

“There would also be a religion, if sharks were men. It would preach that little fish only really begin to live properly in the sharks’ stomachs.

“Furthermore, if sharks were men there would be an end to all little fish being equal, as is the case now. Some would be given important offices and be placed above the others. Those who were a little bigger would even be allowed to eat up the smaller ones. That would be altogether agreeable for the sharks, since they themselves would more often get bigger bites to eat. And the bigger little fish, occupying their posts, would ensure order among the little fish, become teachers, officers, engineers in box construction, etc.

“In short, if sharks were men, they would for the first time bring culture to the ocean.”

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Ace-o-aces  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:36:51pm
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makeitstop  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:37:16pm

re: #283 HappyWarrior

I’m not sure tbh.

#25 out of 30

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:37:30pm

re: #286 makeitstop

#25 out of 30

Danke.

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The Major  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:37:58pm

Robb Chavez is really easy to Seagull….

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:39:56pm

re: #9 ObserverArt

Attacking the FBI as the NRAs Wayne LaPierre did today is sure a strange tact.

I hope this really pisses of the entire law enforcement community (minus the gun nut, wingnut types) and they build pressure on Republicans, the NRA and the media to make some big changes in gun laws, etc.

The NRA was going after the FBI after ruby Ridge (and to be sure…they kinda deserved it) and kept it up when Louis Freeh became director of the FBI and said he would enforce the strictest gun laws congress could pass.

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teleskiguy  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:40:17pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:45:48pm

re: #285 Ace-o-aces

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MsJ  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:46:26pm
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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:46:36pm

re: #291 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

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JFC

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Unshaken Defiance  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:47:15pm

The decline of the NRA tracks with the GOP pretty well.
time.com

The 1930s crime spree of the Prohibition era, which still summons images of outlaws outfitted with machine guns, prompted President Franklin Roosevelt to make gun control a feature of the New Deal. The NRA assisted Roosevelt in drafting the 1934 National Firearms Act and the 1938 Gun Control Act, the first federal gun control laws. These laws placed heavy taxes and regulation requirements on firearms that were associated with crime, such as machine guns, sawed-off shotguns and silencers. Gun sellers and owners were required to register with the federal government and felons were banned from owning weapons. Not only was the legislation unanimously upheld by the Supreme Court in 1939, but Karl T. Frederick, the president of the NRA, testified before Congress stating, “I have never believed in the general practice of carrying weapons. I do not believe in the general promiscuous toting of guns. I think it should be sharply restricted and only under licenses.

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:47:49pm

re: #294 Unshaken Defiance

The decline of the NRA tracks with the GOP pretty well.
time.com

Yep.

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TedStriker  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:50:56pm

re: #292 MsJ

Police in #Argentina say they’ve seized ~400 kg of cocaine from the #Russia embassy. Several alleged members of a drug trafficking gang arrested, including a Russian diplomatic official.

— Steve Herman (@W7VOA) February 22, 2018

Jesus, it’s the plot of Lethal Weapon 2…for real.

I’d love to meet their Riggs and Murtaugh and shake their hands…

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The Major  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:52:07pm

re: #285 Ace-o-aces

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DodgerFan1988  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:53:56pm
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majii  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:54:32pm

re: #265 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

“Everything pisses you off. You’re an abusive anger-addict.”

It may not be too long before Loesch’s own kids piss her off. According to Wikipedia, she has two sons. At some point, all kids say things that don’t align with their parents’ views, so I expect Loesch to have to deal with this. I’m hoping she won’t use one of her guns to deal with the disagreement.

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sagehen  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:54:36pm

re: #292 MsJ

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Aren’t embassies sovereign territory of the nation whose embassy it is, and police of the city/country it’s located in have no jurisdiction?

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makeitstop  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:55:37pm

re: #292 MsJ

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Whoa. What if Mueller’s looking at the Trump family for drug trafficking?

I wouldn’t be surprised. Both sons look like your typical rich blowbots.

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TedStriker  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:56:05pm

re: #300 sagehen

Aren’t embassies sovereign territory of the nation whose embassy it is, and police of the city/country it’s located in have no jurisdiction?

Typically, yes, but even diplomatic immunity has its limits.

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The Major  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:56:40pm

re: #282 Ace Rothstein

Nope.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:57:46pm

re: #294 Unshaken Defiance

If Mr. Frederick were alive today, he’d be described as a gun-grabbing libtard.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:58:56pm

so the latest meme coming out of the gun lobby is that liberals only care about guns when cute white children are killed, cuz ya see we only care about banning semiautomatic weapons, and that we don’t care about the many thousands of black children killed by handguns

cuz we don’t care about controlling handguns??

cuz the republican party and the nra care about black people?

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HappyWarrior  Feb 22, 2018 • 5:59:25pm

re: #304 Ace Rothstein

If Mr. Frederick were alive today, he’d be described as a gun-grabbing libtard.

Wayne LaPierre circa 20 years ago would too. That’s the problem with him. He keeps on moving the goal posts.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Feb 22, 2018 • 6:01:19pm
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JordanRules  Feb 22, 2018 • 6:01:36pm

re: #305 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Same tactics used during the campaign. The op continues.

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Belafon  Feb 22, 2018 • 6:02:35pm

re: #305 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

so the latest meme coming out of the gun lobby is that liberals only care about guns when cute white children are killed, cuz ya see we only care about banning semiautomatic weapons, and that we don’t care about the many thousands of black children killed by handguns

cuz we don’t care about controlling handguns??

cuz the republican party and the nra care about black people?

Show of hands of any non-white members here: Is this bullshit strong enough to power rockets?

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 22, 2018 • 6:03:54pm

re: #259 makeitstop

Somebody doesn’t like being shown up on national TV.

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allegro  Feb 22, 2018 • 6:08:10pm

re: #299 majii

“Everything pisses you off. You’re an abusive anger-addict.”

It may not be too long before Loesch’s own kids piss her off. According to Wikipedia, she has two sons. At some point, all kids say things that don’t align with their parents’ views, so I expect Loesch to have to deal with this. I’m hoping she won’t use one of her guns to deal with the disagreement.

Raised in such a household her kids might.

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Belafon  Feb 22, 2018 • 6:08:54pm

I realize the cop is probably feeling really bad, but I think his actual training kicked in. What cop would rush into a shooting situation alone, when you know the other person has an AR-15 (and we can pretty much assume every shooter will have an AR-15)? Nope, you wait for backup.

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Bubblehead II  Feb 22, 2018 • 6:08:58pm

re: #262 plansbandc

It makes him a coward.

Yep. He took the the job and then failed to fulfill his obligation. In the military, this gets you put in prison or worse.

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Interesting Times  Feb 22, 2018 • 6:09:37pm

re: #291 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

I posted about that survivor earlier today - TL;DR version is that he wanted to read an extensive speech, but CNN said due to time/format constraints, he’d be limited to asking a question. His father pulled him out of the townhall in response.

So yes…I was already seeing trumpchumps pounce on the story with their usual breathless conspiracy theories, so it doesn’t surprise me in the least that Cheeto Benito’s seized onto it as well.

Colton Haab doesn’t seem to have a Twitter account, however, so I’m not sure how he (or more importantly, his father) will react. I hope they don’t allow themselves to be used as NRA PR pieces (and as far as I’m aware, Colton originally said he wanted to see more armed guards as well as gun control measures).

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Belafon  Feb 22, 2018 • 6:10:10pm

And this proves you can’t just have one cop at a school. You have to have a unit at each school. And it proves how pointless it would be for teachers, because their first task would be to protect students, not group together to challenge the shooter.

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goddamnedfrank  Feb 22, 2018 • 6:12:17pm

re: #305 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

so the latest meme coming out of the gun lobby is that liberals only care about guns when cute white children are killed, cuz ya see we only care about banning semiautomatic weapons, and that we don’t care about the many thousands of black children killed by handguns

cuz we don’t care about controlling handguns??

cuz the republican party and the nra care about black people?

They’ve kind of halfway stumbled onto a legit point, though their approach to it is typically disingenuous and shit faced. Our society, yes even liberal society, demonstrably does get a lot more vocally upset about the loss of white kids’ lives, with missing blonde white girls having set off multiple nationwide panics. Also, handguns are statistically represented far more in every type of firearms related crime and we should do a lot more to regulate the shit out of them. But you’re right, the last thing the GOP and NRA are interested in is fixing real problems and there’s nothing they love better than to blame minorities instead of the systemic dysfunction & structural racism that actually underlies their disproportionate violent mortality rate.

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ObserverArt  Feb 22, 2018 • 6:13:49pm

Just had my first major glitch with Directv Now online streaming TV.

They had listed the Columbus Blue Jackets NHL game on their guide on screen tonight. I watched a game on Tuesday night…a home game and everything was fine.

Tonight’s game is a road game and it shows on the online guide and when I select the channel I see the opening graphic of Blue Jackets and Philly Flyers logos, etc. Click to watch and I get a Cleveland Cavs game.

I suspect they have issues with regional sports channels that sometimes show games and sometimes don’t if there are rights or black-out issues. I think they have a problem getting the proper feed or rights for the feed.

So, I go online and fight online chat tech for a good hour and it was just plain stupid. The guy wasn’t paying attention to what I was saying about the guide showing the game and the intro graphic being for the game. He kept saying it wasn’t shown on Fox Sports Ohio, it was on the NHL channel. I told him if he looks at any TV listing source he would see there was no games on NHL channel until later tonight, a west coast game.

So, I had to play the try-this-try-that game and all it did was get me frustrated. I told him I want someone to contact me by phone to explain what is going on as chat was useless. They do not show a phone line to contact.

It’s sad, because so far the regular channels have been good. I like the picture, the FireTV and all.

I think they are too new and need to work out a lot of bugs. I just don’t appreciate being a beta test customers.

Edit to add: Oh of course… a new thread after I type all that. I guess it is par for the night. Sigh.

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allegro  Feb 22, 2018 • 6:13:50pm

re: #312 Belafon

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I realize the cop is probably feeling really bad, but I think his actual training kicked in. What cop would rush into a shooting situation alone, when you know the other person has an AR-15 (and we can pretty much assume every shooter will have an AR-15)? Nope, you wait for backup.

I’m feeling a bit of sympathy for the guy as well and not so quick to shout “coward”. Would this not be a great time for police departments all over the US to say “Stop this now!” and join the kids and the rest of us calling for a ban of these weapons? They have more reason to than any.

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Ace Rothstein  Feb 22, 2018 • 6:14:30pm

re: #315 Belafon

Here in the Houston area, almost all (if not all) school districts have actual police departments. Conroe Independent School District has an actual CISDPD. It has 60 full time officers, according to their Facebook page.

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JordanRules  Feb 22, 2018 • 6:15:09pm

re: #312 Belafon

I hate that Rick even tweeted that. Damn.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Feb 22, 2018 • 6:15:48pm
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prairiefire  Feb 22, 2018 • 6:17:07pm

POS gov Greitens indicted today!

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Scottish Dragon  Feb 22, 2018 • 6:21:20pm

re: #318 allegro

I’m feeling a bit of sympathy for the guy as well and not so quick to shout “coward”. Would this not be a great time for police departments all over the US to say “Stop this now!” and join the kids and the rest of us calling for a ban of these weapons? They have more reason to than any.

Yeah…hesitant to call him a coward.

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TedStriker  Feb 22, 2018 • 6:21:31pm

re: #306 HappyWarrior

Wayne LaPierre circa 20 years ago would too. That’s the problem with him. He keeps on moving the goal posts.

re: #313 Bubblehead II

Yep. He took the the job and then failed to fulfill his obligation. In the military, this gets you put in prison or worse.

But, police departments are not the military, no matter how much a lots of cops act and how much they cosplay at it.

If he couldn’t give a good reason for delaying entry (such as waiting for backup), I’d settle on that cop being blackballed by other law enforcement agencies nationwide for life.

Some people just aren’t cut out to be cops, and this guy may be one of them.

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Belafon  Feb 22, 2018 • 6:23:33pm

re: #324 TedStriker

But, police departments are not the military, no matter how much a lots of cops act and how much they cosplay at it.

I’d settle on that cop being blackballed by other law enforcement agencies nationwide for life.

I’m pretty sure the line “don’t be a hero” wasn’t just a TV line.

Edit: And how often do the military run into a situation alone?

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BlueGrl21  Feb 22, 2018 • 6:29:48pm

re: #319 Ace Rothstein

Here in the Houston area, almost all (if not all) school districts have actual police departments. Conroe Independent School District has an actual CISDPD. It has 60 full time officers, according to their Facebook page.

Yep, same with Fort Bend. Husband/son’s school has two officers, plus they have district officers that rotate campuses. They’re good people who love kids.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Feb 22, 2018 • 6:29:53pm

re: #316 goddamnedfrank

They’ve kind of halfway stumbled onto a legit point, though their approach to it is typically disingenuous and shit faced. Our society, yes even liberal society, demonstrably does get a lot more vocally upset about the loss of white kids’ lives, with missing blonde white girls having set off multiple nationwide panics. Also, handguns are statistically represented far more in every type of firearms related crime and we should do a lot more to regulate the shit out of them. But you’re right, the last thing the GOP and NRA are interested in is fixing real problems and there’s nothing they love better than to blame minorities instead of the systemic dysfunction & structural racism that actually underlies their disproportionate violent mortality rate.

i think in their desperation they’ve opened a can of worms that will bite them in the ass real bad

(sorry about the mixed metaphor but it was too good to pass up)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Feb 22, 2018 • 6:30:39pm

It’s one of those car wrecks that you have to stop and look around, you just can’t help yourself

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gwangung  Feb 22, 2018 • 6:37:29pm

re: #309 Belafon

Show of hands of any non-white members here: Is this bullshit strong enough to power rockets?

Warp drive capable.

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majii  Feb 22, 2018 • 6:39:39pm

re: #309 Belafon

“Show of hands of any non-white members here: Is this bullshit strong enough to power rockets?”

I qualify, and I’m more than willing to weigh in on this BS. First, few, if any, of these gun nuts and NRA aficionados know many, if any, black people. This BS is meant to drive a wedge between the blacks and whites in the Democratic Party and to promote race-based divisiveness in general. Second, since the first thing I mentioned is the case, they’re guessing and trying to speak for us. Third, they’re stupid as hell because we know the game they’re playing, and we’re not buying their BS. The very fact that we don’t vote the way they’d like us to vote, even though they’ve created the “Democrats are holding blacks on the Democrat Plantation” meme, should tell them that we’re not as stupid as they think we are. They’ve been playing this ”Democrat Plantation” BS for years, and they’re still struggling to get most of us to vote for their politicians.


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