Highly Unusual Saturday Night Music: Anna Meredith, NPR Music Tiny Desk Concert

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March 2, 2018 | Bob Boilen — Out of nearly 700 performances at the Tiny Desk, this is simply the most exhilarating one I’ve experienced. The instrumentation is unusual, with pulsing bass sounds produced by a wonderful combination of cello, tuba and electronics. It’s all rhythmically propelled by an astonishing drummer and Meredith pounding a pair of floor toms. And much of the repetitive melody is keyboard-and-guitar-driven that morphs and erupt with earth-shaking fervor.

I first saw this British composer a year ago, in a stunning performance at the SXSW musical festival. It was one of the best concerts of my life. The music I heard sent me into a state of reverie. If music could levitate my body, this is how it would sound. It carried me away and thrilled my soul. I was giddy for days.

Now, I know this isn’t music for everyone. Lovers of classical music might shun it for its use of sequencers and electronics. The electronic world may wonder how the hell you could ever dance to this. Or for lovers of rock and hip-hop, its repetition and throbbing beats and bass might send you running and screaming into the distance. But if you know and love the music of Philip Glass, King Crimson or Steve Reich — music that’s electrifying, challenging and sonically soars and ripples through your body — then crank this up.

Anna Meredith was a former BBC Scottish Symphony Orchestra Composer in Residence. The songs performed here come from her 2016 release called Varmints, which is where two of the three songs performed here can be found. It’s been a long while since a contemporary composer has captured my musical imagination. I hope and trust this will open many to a new way of thinking about what music is and what it can do.

SET LIST
“Nautilus”
“Ribbons”
“The Vapours”

MUSICIANS
Anna Meredith, Jack Ross, Tom Kelly, Sam Wilson, Maddie Cutter

CREDITS
Producers: Bob Boilen, Morgan Noelle Smith; Creative Director: Bob Boilen; Audio Engineer: Josh Rogosin; Videographers: Morgan Noelle Smith, Maia Stern, Beck Harlan, Dani Lyman; Production Assistant: Joshua Bote; Photo: Eslah Attar/NPR.

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1
Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 10, 2018 • 7:39:00pm

Is Trumps stupid fucking rally still going on?

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Skip Intro  Mar 10, 2018 • 7:42:01pm

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

This is how Trump is going to spend the next three years.

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Citizen K  Mar 10, 2018 • 7:42:02pm

So….this is totally normal:

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The Major  Mar 10, 2018 • 7:45:14pm
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Mar 10, 2018 • 7:45:48pm

Our house is not shown but it is a very, very, very fine house, with two cats in the yard

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 10, 2018 • 7:46:16pm
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De Kolta Chair  Mar 10, 2018 • 7:47:25pm

Been wracking my brain for months over where I’ve seen this guy’s mug before, until it finally hit me…

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Citizen K  Mar 10, 2018 • 7:48:08pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Ms. O’Brien is a damn treasure.

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The Major  Mar 10, 2018 • 7:48:32pm

re: #3 Citizen K

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jaunte  Mar 10, 2018 • 7:48:38pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

Trump’s challenge for 2020 (if he runs) of claiming that he’s had historic accomplishments/improved things while highlighting the bad things he says still go on is on display at this rally.

Maybe Haberman should try explaining the pathology of the fans that find no problem with Trump’s incompetence and lack of accomplishments.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 10, 2018 • 7:49:29pm

(Doug is Rob Ford’s brother)

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 10, 2018 • 7:49:36pm

re: #10 jaunte

Maggie really irritates the fuck out of me.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 10, 2018 • 7:51:49pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m afraid I don’t have any better understanding of Canadian politics than I do my own… Exactly what just happened?

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jaunte  Mar 10, 2018 • 7:52:32pm
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wheat-dogg  Mar 10, 2018 • 7:53:01pm

Today’s musical offering reminds me of superhero movie soundtracks so far.

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Skip Intro  Mar 10, 2018 • 7:53:19pm

re: #6 Backwoods_Sleuth

Maggie’s full of shit like always. He is a candidate, who after a little more than a year in office, is now running for re-election in 2020.

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jaunte  Mar 10, 2018 • 7:53:20pm

Maybe next time Watters has dinner with Trump, Franklin Graham can tag along.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 10, 2018 • 7:54:11pm

re: #13 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m afraid I don’t have any better understanding of Canadian politics than I do my own… Exactly what just happened?

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Interesting Times  Mar 10, 2018 • 7:54:16pm

re: #13 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m afraid I don’t have any better understanding of Canadian politics than I do my own… Exactly what just happened?

This guy just got nominated by the conservative party to run for premier (our equiv. of Governor) of the province of Ontario:

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The Major  Mar 10, 2018 • 7:54:37pm

re: #14 jaunte

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wheat-dogg  Mar 10, 2018 • 7:57:28pm

OK, second tune is less soundtrackish.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Mar 10, 2018 • 7:59:51pm

re: #19 Interesting Times

This guy just got nominated by the conservative party to run for premier (our equiv. of Governor) of the province of Ontario:

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So, he’s a biter. Kinky.

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Skip Intro  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:00:40pm

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

I thought that was Rush Limbaugh for a second.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:05:02pm

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #19 Interesting Times

Oh. Oh dear God. They’ve gone full dumbass, haven’t they. They drank the goddamn Trump Kool-Aid. I’m sorry, Canada, we tried to keep it at home.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:05:24pm

re: #23 Skip Intro

I thought that was Rush Limbaugh for a second.

I noted the similarities with brother Rob back when he was still in the news for his drug habits.

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austin_blue  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:05:37pm

Goddamn! That was fucking brilliant. She’s a hell of a composer, with a hell of a band and juuuuust a hint of faux Frippertronics. Which I love.

Thanks, Charles, well chosen.

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Skip Intro  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:05:45pm

re: #17 jaunte

Maybe next time Watters has dinner with Trump, Franklin Graham can tag along.

They could sit around and tell Jew jokes with the president, like dead old dad used to do.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:06:33pm

I’m home sweet home.

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The Major  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:07:41pm

re: #28 Stanley Sea

I’m home sweet home.

Glad ya made it home safe-n-sound…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:07:42pm

re: #14 jaunte

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So is Fox going to have to do another $32 million payout?

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Bass Reeves  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:09:11pm

That last thread was something else. Gotta make sure we center our movements on avoiding white male outrage, or I guess there’s no point? I see your concern guys, I really do.

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Skip Intro  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:09:16pm

re: #30 Joe Bacon 🌹

So is Fox going to have to do another $32 million payout?

That’s pocket change to Fox.

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austin_blue  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:09:17pm

re: #11 Backwoods_Sleuth

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(Doug is Rob Ford’s brother)

And Rob Ford was a fucking disaster for Canada.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:12:04pm

re: #31 Bass Reeves

That last thread was something else. Gotta make sure we center our movements on avoiding white male outrage, or I guess there’s no point? I see your concern guys, I really do.

Wait, what? The fuck did I miss?

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JordanRules  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:12:43pm

re: #31 Bass Reeves

And the night before. Sigh.

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teleskiguy  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:13:52pm

re: #31 Bass Reeves

‘The Ghost of a Flea’ can fucking write and think at the same time, that’s a lovely anomaly.

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JordanRules  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:18:58pm

Daaaamn.

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austin_blue  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:19:09pm

re: #35 JordanRules

And the night before. Sigh.

Yeah, there was a bit of chewing each other up. Folks need to go sit outside a while and look at the stars, contemplate eternity, and then respond to a post that chapped their ass and see if they can find common ground.

This is actually decent advice anywhere on the interwebs.

Unless you are a troll. Then I just need to fuck right off.

;-)

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JordanRules  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:20:35pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:21:26pm

re: #39 JordanRules

No. No, that’s exactly bass ackwards, you dumbshit. You are supposed to give him metrics that guide his policy decisions. You are NOT supposed to support his completely harebrained shitty-ass policy with made-up metrics.

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teleskiguy  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:22:47pm
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Skip Intro  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:22:59pm

re: #40 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

You do if you want to keep your job with him.

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Citizen K  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:23:43pm

GOP senators reintroduce bill to protect opponents of same-sex marriage

A group of 22 GOP senators is reintroducing a controversial measure that would protect opponents of same-sex marriage from federal actions intended to curb discrimination.

The First Amendment Defense Act (FADA) would bar the federal government from taking any action against individuals who discriminate against same-sex couples or others based on “a sincerely held religious belief.”

The bill would also protect those who discriminate against marriages not recognized under federal law or individuals who engage in sex outside of marriage.

[…]

As a presidential candidate, Trump indicated that he would sign the measure if it were sent to his desk, saying that it would “protect the deeply held religious beliefs of Catholics and the beliefs of Americans of all faiths.”

And from a particularly good thread on it:

Yet another attempt to put a de facto stake into the heart of the 14th Amendment. If this goes through and gets a pass from the courts, it’s pretty much the trial run for any and all kind of discrimination again, under the guise of ‘religious belief’.

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Interesting Times  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:24:31pm

re: #31 Bass Reeves

That last thread was something else. Gotta make sure we center our movements on avoiding white male outrage, or I guess there’s no point?

This tweet (even though it was about fictional characters) explains it beautifully:

Perhaps we should call it the “privilege” of low expectations?

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teleskiguy  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:25:43pm
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Romantic Heretic  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:26:42pm

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

If Doug Ford becomes Premier (Governor for you Americans) Ontario will become the Kansas of Canada.

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JordanRules  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:28:48pm
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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:29:09pm

re: #42 Skip Intro

You do if you want to keepyour job with him.

If he demanded that I justify his bullshit with “facts” that I pulled from my own fat ass, I wouldn’t want to keep my job with him. But that’s because I have integrity and uphold the engineering code of ethics, and am not a pathetic sellout.

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JordanRules  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:29:13pm
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darthstar  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:31:04pm

How you know shit is getting real.

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Kragar  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:31:18pm
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JordanRules  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:31:26pm
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Romantic Heretic  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:32:30pm

re: #39 JordanRules

Man, that poor schmuck must go through a lot of kneepads.

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austin_blue  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:32:52pm

re: #40 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

No. No, that’s exactly bass ackwards, you dumbshit. You are supposed to give him metrics that guide his policy decisions. You are NOT supposed to support his completely harebrained shitty-ass policy with made-up metrics.

That’s exactly right. Digging out errata to “confirm his intuition” is not being an economist, it’s being a cocksucking dogsbody. Science is not intuition and never has been. Intuition means coming up with ideas. Science is confirming them, or not. Your job is to tell him “no” when his intuition is bullshit.

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Kragar  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:36:13pm
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Belafon  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:37:33pm

re: #24 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Oh. Oh dear God. They’ve gone full dumbass, haven’t they. They drank the goddamn Trump Kool-Aid. I’m sorry, Canada, we tried to keep it at home.

IIRC, Canada did Trump before we did, in Trudeau’s predecessor.

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austin_blue  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:37:41pm

re: #48 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

If he demanded that I justify his bullshit with “facts” that I pulled from my own fat ass, I wouldn’t want to keep my job with him. But that’s because I have integrity and uphold the engineering code of ethics, and am not a pathetic sellout.

Oh, you and your professional ethics. Pffft! So last millennium.

///

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The Major  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:40:19pm

re: #55 Kragar

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SteelPH  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:40:27pm

re: #55 Kragar

Family values!

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Stanley Sea  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:40:44pm

re: #48 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

If he demanded that I justify his bullshit with “facts” that I pulled from my own fat ass, I wouldn’t want to keep my job with him. But that’s because I have integrity and uphold the engineering code of ethics, and am not a pathetic sellout.

He’s a con, the only people who will work with him are those who seek benefit from the con.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:41:30pm

re: #57 austin_blue

Oh, you and your professional ethics. Pffft! So last millennium.

///

One of the things that bothers me is that there isn’t a real professional organization like the IEEE or the ASCE for software engineers. There are some programmers out there that write some frighteningly awful bullshit and don’t stop to think about the ramifications of their decisions. Computers are everywhere these days, and ethical decisions about what we do with those computers are literally around every corner. Each Experian data breach is the equivalent of a Tay River Bridge incident to the computer science industry, and yet nobody seems to want to do anything about it.

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JordanRules  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:41:53pm

re: #60 Stanley Sea

I sent you a PM earlier. Probably right when the plane took off. LOL

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austin_blue  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:42:11pm

re: #56 Belafon

IIRC, Canada did Trump before we did, in Trudeau’s predecessor.

He was a kind of wingnutty, but not a parody of a world leader. He was a functional Conservative who got his ass beat when the people of Canada got woke. That’s how it’s supposed to work.

As always, America is breaking new ground. MAGA!

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JordanRules  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:42:47pm

re: #63 austin_blue

Always exceptional!

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teleskiguy  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:43:59pm

I really like this song. Brand new music.

Dr. Dog - Go Out Fighting [Official Audio]

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Stanley Sea  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:44:07pm

re: #62 JordanRules

I sent you a PM earlier. Probably right when the plane took off. LOL

I got it!!

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Stanley Sea  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:44:17pm

re: #62 JordanRules

I sent you a PM earlier. Probably right when the plane took off. LOL

I think!

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:44:19pm
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Belafon  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:44:30pm

re: #61 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

One of the things that bothers me is that there isn’t a real professional organization like the IEEE or the ASCE for software engineers. There are some programmers out there that write some frighteningly awful bullshit and don’t stop to think about the ramifications of their decisions. Computers are everywhere these days, and ethical decisions about what we do with those computers are literally around every corner. Each Experian data breach is the equivalent of a Tay River Bridge incident to the computer science industry, and yet nobody seems to want to do anything about it.

There is the ACM, actually, that functions very similar to the IEEE. I have yet to actually try to decide who should be president in the elections, though.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:44:47pm

I missed the show.

but

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mmmirele  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:45:07pm

re: #43 Citizen K

I do not give a fat flaming FUCK about someone’s deeply held religious beliefs if they’re going to interfere with LGBT people being able to function in society like the rest of us. And that is the exact and complete intent of this bill, to give so-called alleged “christians” the ability to tell an LGBT person (and, later, minorities and women) that they will not serve them for religious reasons.

This bill is an attempted end run around the implications of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and subsequent court cases. Yes, I am completely aware that the CRA of 1964 does not protect LGBT persons, but it does protect minorities. And by GOD, I know there are asshats out there who believe they shouldn’t have to serve minorities.

We are straight on the train track to a crackup if this piece of shit passes.

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JordanRules  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:45:08pm

re: #66 Stanley Sea

Cool, just wanted to make sure cause I still barely know how to drive around here!

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:45:54pm

re: #69 Belafon

There is the ACM, actually, that functions very similar to the IEEE. I have yet to actually try to decide who should be president in the elections, though.

If the ACM has that role, that’s fine, but that seemed to be more prudent to academia and less so to practical engineering. It just felt like there was a void once I launched into the professional world.

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austin_blue  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:46:43pm

re: #61 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

One of the things that bothers me is that there isn’t a real professional organization like the IEEE or the ASCE for software engineers. There are some programmers out there that write some frighteningly awful bullshit and don’t stop to think about the ramifications of their decisions. Computers are everywhere these days, and ethical decisions about what we do with those computers are literally around every corner. Each Experian data breach is the equivalent of a Tay River Bridge incident to the computer science industry, and yet nobody seems to want to do anything about it.

That will only happen when the employers/users of Code demand it. It took us over a decade to get a Professional Geoscientist Licensing Board up and running in Texas to get rid of the charlatans, and the oil and gas companies got themselves exempted from it. Petroleum play scams are still not regulated except through civil torts.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:47:28pm

re: #12 Ace Rothstein

Maggie really irritates the fuck out of me.

Me too. She’s annoying as hell. She can’t seem to take any criticism when it comes to her over sympathetic Trump coverage.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:48:04pm

re: #68 goddamnedfrank

“There are five lights. This is the President’s vision.”

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teleskiguy  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:48:28pm

re: #45 teleskiguy

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The Major  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:48:57pm

re: #76 The Ghost of a Flea

“There are five lights. This is the President’s vision.”

Upding for ST:TNG reference….

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:50:21pm

re: #55 Kragar

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The Party of Family Values.

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Belafon  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:50:22pm

re: #73 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

If the ACM has that role, that’s fine, but that seemed to be more prudent to academia and less so to practical engineering. It just felt like there was a void once I launched into the professional world.

Here’s some of the benefits I get:
1. Access to all of their articles.
2. Access to training from various industry people.
3. I can get to any O’Reilly book online.
4. I get a 3 times a week letter of research and applications in computing. Some of the articles I’ve posted, such as the one yesterday about how fake news spreads faster than real news because of humans, was from this letter. A number of these referenced articles also talk about ethics in computing.
5. Skillsoft training. I haven’t used it yet, but they offer courses in a number of computing topics.

Overall, you might poke around and see what they offer.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:51:52pm

re: #72 JordanRules

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The Major  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:53:12pm

re: #73 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

If the ACM has that role, that’s fine, but that seemed to be more prudent to academia and less so to practical engineering.

The ACM would fill that role quite nicely.

True story: when I was in college they asked students to work the ACM conference being held in Detroit in 1979. I actually got to meet and briefly chat with none other than RADM Grace Murray Hopper as I was shuffling between presentations. very few people can say they net the rock stars of their industry…..

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teleskiguy  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:53:34pm

re: #65 teleskiguy

It’s total hipster rock ‘n’ roll. I dig it.

This song singlehandedly got me into hipster rock ‘n’ roll some years ago.

Green Aisles

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:54:37pm

re: #80 Belafon

re: #82 The Major

If that’s the case, I’ll promote the hell out of it. It seems undersold in a market where guys just slap arbitrary code into projects without even giving a thought about where it came from or what it might actually do.

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Belafon  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:55:02pm

On their ethics side, here’s some stuff from the ACM’s home page:

First-Ever Global Curriculum Guidelines in Cybersecurity:

After an extensive two-year process, a joint task force led by the ACM, IEEE Computer Society (IEEE-CS), Association for Information Systems Special Interest Group on Security (AIS SIGSEC), and the International Federation for Information Processing Technical Committee on Information Security Education (IFIP WG 11.8) has released a first-ever set of global curricular recommendations for post-secondary degree programs in cybersecurity education.

USACM Issues Statement on Preserving Personal Privacy

Based on the belief that the benefits of emerging technologies should not come at the expense of personal privacy, the ACM US Public Policy Council (USACM) has issued a statement outlining principles and practices for building data privacy into modern technological systems. These include limiting and minimizing collection of personal data; the ability of individuals to control how their personal data are distributed and used; and ensuring quality and security of personal data. Read more in the news release.

And if you need to go to sleep, you can see last years budget.

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JordanRules  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:57:28pm

re: #81 Stanley Sea

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The Major  Mar 10, 2018 • 8:58:44pm

Time to troll seagull Charlie Kirk….

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whitebeach  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:00:54pm

re: #28 Stanley Sea

I’m home sweet home.

But you know what it means to miss New Orleans. I sure do. Wish I coulda been there with you.

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austin_blue  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:01:23pm

re: #83 teleskiguy

It’s total hipster rock ‘n’ roll. I dig it.

This song singlehandedly got me into hipster rock ‘n’ roll some years ago.

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Video

I get that, but it’s 2011 music. Isn’t the progenitor worthwhile?

R.E.M. - So. Central Rain

Oh, and Stipe refused to lip synch. That’s a live vocal.

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jaunte  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:02:16pm
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JordanRules  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:02:40pm

re: #88 whitebeach

But you know what it means to miss New Orleans. I sure do. Wish I coulda been there with you.

Me too!

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teleskiguy  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:05:10pm

re: #89 austin_blue

I used to hate R.E.M. Annoying music my 10-year-older sister listened to and played to annoy me when I was very young. I’ve grown to love them in the second decade of the 21st century. In part because of Real Estate.

I still think ‘It’s The End Of The World’ is a stupid and annoying song.

And Billy Joel’s ‘We Didn’t Start The Fire.’ Hackneyed.

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JordanRules  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:07:15pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:08:55pm

re: #92 teleskiguy

I listened to this song for the first time about four years ago on the radio on my way to some fall leaf peeping. I wrote the name of the song down on my hand.

It’s earliest R.E.M. And I think it’s brilliant. And I only heard it for the first time recently.

Talk About The Passion

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The Major  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:09:08pm

Wow…JPod in rare form…..

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Belafon  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:09:53pm

For all of you interested in machine learning, here’s an ACM video on adversarial learning:

“Hierarchical Adversarially Learned Inference,” with Negar Rostamzadeh

.

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Kragar  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:10:21pm
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Decatur Deb  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:15:32pm

re: #97 Kragar

“This is the president’s vision,” said Peter Navarro, Trump’s ascendant trade adviser. “My function, really, as an economist is to try to provide the underlying analytics that confirm his intuition. And his intuition is always right in these matters”

“This is the Fuhrer’s vision. My function, really, as a physical anthroplogist is to try to provide the skull analyses that confirm his intuition. And his intuition is always right in these matters”

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jaunte  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:18:48pm

First choice: Deny.

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teleskiguy  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:21:51pm

OK, just catching up with the bicker bicker bicker downstairs.

Right wing media succeeded in melding Women’s March and Louis Farrakhan together. Their propaganda machine is very slick.

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The Major  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:21:56pm
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whitebeach  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:23:31pm

I am 99% sure that if Mueller can get into Trump’s financials, it will become clear that for at least 20 years the main part of Trump’s fortune has come from laundering crooked money, particularly but by no means exclusively, from the Russian mob.

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teleskiguy  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:24:58pm

re: #99 jaunte

I was going to say ‘take up arms’ but you’re probably right. ‘Take up arms’ comes after Congress draws up articles of impeachment in December 2018.

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jaunte  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:25:40pm

re: #100 teleskiguy

When I think about a Women’s March, Louis Farrakhan is about the last person I’d associate with it.

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austin_blue  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:25:41pm

re: #92 teleskiguy

I used to hate R.E.M. Annoying music my 10-year-older sister listened to and played to annoy me when I was very young. I’ve grown to love them in the second decade of the 21st century. In part because of Real Estate.

I still think ‘It’s The End Of The World’ is a stupid and annoying song.

And Billy Joel’s ‘We Didn’t Start The Fire.’ Hackneyed.

Agreed. But here’s a good one:

REM - Cuyahoga @ Madrid, Spain - 9 May 2001

“This is where we walked
This where we swam
Take a picture here
Take a souvenir

Cayahoga is gone.”

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Stanley Sea  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:25:58pm

re: #88 whitebeach

But you know what it means to miss New Orleans. I sure do. Wish I coulda been there with you.

It would’ve been wonderful if you were there.

I’m so tired. Ate so much perfect food.

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teleskiguy  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:27:40pm

re: #104 jaunte

Your average AM radio Fox News consumer wants to have a fist fight with you outside.

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The Major  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:29:31pm
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jaunte  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:31:09pm

re: #108 The Major

Ten Commandments in schools may stop mass killings by guilt-tripping shooters

Just look at the record so far/

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TedStriker  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:31:43pm

re: #92 teleskiguy

I used to hate R.E.M. Annoying music my 10-year-older sister listened to and played to annoy me when I was very young. I’ve grown to love them in the second decade of the 21st century. In part because of Real Estate.

I still think ‘It’s The End Of The World’ is a stupid and annoying song.

And Billy Joel’s ‘We Didn’t Start The Fire.’ Hackneyed.

re: #105 austin_blue

Agreed. But here’s a good one:

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“This is where we walked
This where we swam
Take a picture here
Take a souvenir

Cayahoga is gone.”

My favorite R.E.M song:

R.E.M. - Orange Crush (Video)

Love that bass line…

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whitebeach  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:33:44pm

re: #106 Stanley Sea

It would’ve been wonderful if you were there.

I’m so tired. Ate so much perfect food.

You know what they say about New Orleans. Five hundred restaurants, and five great recipes.

Hope you had a couple of sazeracs too.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:33:46pm

re: #94 teleskiguy

I listened to this song for the first time about four years ago on the radio on my way to some fall leaf peeping. I wrote the name of the song down on my hand.

It’s earliest R.E.M. And I think it’s brilliant. And I only heard it for the first time recently.

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Video

Yeah, end of the world was the pop of the time. I place Shiny Happy People worse on the scale. But whatever.

REM’s catalog completely obliterates the occasional follies.

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TedStriker  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:38:03pm

re: #112 Stanley Sea

Yeah, end of the world was the pop of the time. I place Shiny Happy People worse on the scale. But whatever.

REM’s catalog completely obliterates the occasional follies.

A bit of useless but interesting trivia: Before he decided to go to culinary school and became a cultural icon (but after he got a degree from the University of Georgia’s film school), Alton Brown was the director of photography for the video for “The One I Love”.

R.E.M. - The One I Love

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JordanRules  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:42:14pm

Stormy still on Twitter unbothered and killing the haters.
Love it!

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Belafon  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:45:54pm

re: #113 TedStriker

A bit of useless but interesting trivia: Before he decided to go to culinary school and became a cultural icon (but after he got a degree from the University of Georgia’s film school), Alton Brown was the director of photography for the video for “The One I Love”.

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The first REM song I ever heard, when the band finally made the radio in Abilene, TX.

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whitebeach  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:46:36pm

re: #113 TedStriker

A bit of useless but interesting trivia: Before he decided to go to culinary school and became a cultural icon (but after he got a degree from the University of Georgia’s film school), Alton Brown was the director of photography for the video for “The One I Love”.

The most interesting part of this is that UGA has a film school. My guess is that they’re still working in black and white.

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teleskiguy  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:47:05pm

re: #110 TedStriker

That was one of the songs that my older sister played to annoy me, and it did!

It’s an okay song, but I’ve got familial issues with it.

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:47:27pm

re: #87 The Major

Charlie Kirk

@charliekirk11
Ever notice that the people who hate socialism the most are those who have actually lived under it?

ever notice that state socialism as practiced by stalin and mao where private property is not allowed and all industries are owned and operated by the state, and which never worked well and is practically extinct, bears no resemblance to “socialized” or mixed economies which are fundamentally capitalist and where only activities such as the military, pension schemes, old age health insurance, and some infrastructure are owned and operated by the state

which would describe just about every government on the face of the earth today

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teleskiguy  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:49:44pm

re: #112 Stanley Sea

Their moments of brilliance, of which I know of some, are fucking brilliant!

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:49:46pm

Ever notice that the people who hate socialism

wingnuts definition of socialism: you used my tax money to help poor people you dirty bastard!!

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Stanley Sea  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:49:51pm

re: #113 TedStriker

A bit of useless but interesting trivia: Before he decided to go to culinary school and became a cultural icon (but after he got a degree from the University of Georgia’s film school), Alton Brown was the director of photography for the video for “The One I Love”.

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Fuckin A.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:51:10pm

I just queued up Alexa to all the REM.

Thank you.

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Dave In Austin  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:51:28pm
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teleskiguy  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:54:29pm

I heard this on the local rock radio station driving back to my hotel room in Jackson Hole very recently. True Story.

Radio Free Europe

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Stanley Sea  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:54:56pm

Another one for the pile, The One I Love.

Gah, pop of 1987

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:56:15pm

Ah, The One I Love.

One of the most fucking misunderstood songs ever.

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teleskiguy  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:56:28pm

It’s true. I used to hate R.E.M. because my eldest sister used their music to annoy and piss me off when I was very young. Families are fucking weird.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:56:33pm

re: #118 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

What historical communist systems, with their commissars and industry bosses and Party corruption resemble is an economic system in which coordination between those with means of production—be that the factory boss or the capitalist business owner—and the political elite that direct resources in a manner that creates a cycle of money routed to a minority with power, who pay politicians to route more, who legislate to route more, as the people at the bottom of the system labor with less and less benefit for themselves.

That’s the joke of communism as implemented—it just re-arranged who had control of the means of production, then things went back to oligarchy quick smart.

…which we will, never, ever, talk about in this country.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:57:17pm

Prob one of my favorites.

I am a sucker for the beauty of harmony.

R.E.M. - Fall On Me

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Belafon  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:57:50pm

re: #127 teleskiguy

It’s true. I used to hate R.E.M. because my eldest sister used their music to annoy and piss me off when I was very young. Families are fucking weird.

So are reactions.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:58:35pm

re: #129 Stanley Sea

And whack lyrics that makes it all work.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 10, 2018 • 9:59:58pm

5 / 10
6. ‘Fall On Me’
Michael Stipe filmed the video for 1987’s “Fall On Me” himself. “I shot it at a rock quarry in Indiana,” he says in the upcoming book I Want My MTV: The Uncensored Story of the Music Video Revolution. “There’s not a single edit in it. I took a piece of film, turned it backwards, flipped it upside down, and put the words to the song on top of it in red lettering. I was following Andy Warhol’s idea of the camera being a passive observer. And MTV played the living shit out of it, which was profoundly shocking.”

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dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸  Mar 10, 2018 • 10:01:10pm

re: #128 The Ghost of a Flea

What historical communist systems, with their commissars and industry bosses and Party corruption resemble is an economic system in which coordination between those with means of production—be that the factory boss or the capitalist business owner—coordinate with the political elite to direct resources in a manner that creates a cycle of money routed to a minority with power, who pay politicians to route more, who legislate to route more, as the people at the bottom of the system labor with less and less benefit for themselves.

That the joke of communism as implemented—it just re-arranged who had control of the means of production, then things went back to oligarchy quick smart.

…which we will, never, ever, talk about in this country.

one of the most astonishing things to me about the soviet union is that party members were allowed to shop in special stores that non elite citizens couldn’t shop in no matter how much money they had

this is more of a class system than america ever had

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austin_blue  Mar 10, 2018 • 10:01:19pm

re: #112 Stanley Sea

Yeah, end of the world was the pop of the time. I place Shiny Happy People worse on the scale. But whatever.

REM’s catalog completely obliterates the occasional follies.

Indeed. The music out of Athens, Georgia at the time was kind of amazing. The genesis for a lot of it was The 40-Watt Club, named not for the wattage of the sound system but because of the original stage lighting. I had a long-distance girlfriend at the time when I was in the Air Force (I had met her in New Orleans before I went into pilot training), and I spent about six weeks with her over a little more than a year in Athens. We want to the 40-Watt a lot. There were three big bands there: REM, The B-52s, and Guadalcanal Diary.

REM was incomprehensible, The B’s were a cabaret show, and GD was the band I thought would make it.

The girlfriend was a lean ginger, fiercely intelligent, and feistier than hell. I loved that woman. Distance and time killed it. Such was life.

Here’s a GD song.

Guadalcanal Diary - Trail Of Tears (1985)

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Mar 10, 2018 • 10:01:31pm

re: #41 teleskiguy

Damn. I love those guys. Thanks.

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The Major  Mar 10, 2018 • 10:01:34pm
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Kragar  Mar 10, 2018 • 10:02:00pm

Best use of a R.E.M. song…

Get A Life Intro

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whitebeach  Mar 10, 2018 • 10:02:27pm

re: #126 Eclectic Cyborg

Ah, The One I Love.

One of the most fucking misunderstood songs ever.

How so?

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teleskiguy  Mar 10, 2018 • 10:03:34pm

Automatic For The People is some kind of album. Not very often a rock band muses about death.

Drive

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Stanley Sea  Mar 10, 2018 • 10:04:04pm

Finding this in a Rolling Stone from awhile ago…

2. ‘Nightswimming’
This song began with a very simple piano melody by the band’s bassist Mike Mills. He didn’t see much value in it, but Michael Stipe thought it was brilliant and he wrote this tender song about skinny-dipping around it. The string arrangement was written by another famous bassist: Led Zeppelin’s John Paul Jones. The track didn’t do that well as a single, but in the past 20 years it’s slowly become one of R.E.M.’s most beloved songs.

R.E.M. - Nightswimming

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Belafon  Mar 10, 2018 • 10:04:12pm

registercitizen.com

LA MARQUE, Texas (AP) — A server at a Houston-area diner has received an unexpected $16,000 college scholarship after details of her act of kindness — cutting an ailing customer’s food — spread online.

Texas Southern University in Houston on Thursday awarded the scholarship to 18-year-old Evoni “Nini” Williams. She works at a Waffle House in La Marque and has been saving money for college.

Another customer, Laura Wolf, was at the Waffle House last Saturday. Wolf overheard a struggling elderly patron, who uses oxygen, say he had trouble with his hands and couldn’t cut the ham on his plate.

Wolf snapped a photo as Williams cut the man’s food.

La Marque Mayor Bobby Hocking on Thursday issued a proclamation making March 8 Evoni Williams Day.

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austin_blue  Mar 10, 2018 • 10:05:31pm

Oh, and here’s one of the most guerrilla videos you will ever see. It’s from ‘83.

“Watusi Rodeo” (Video 1983) - Guadalcanal Diary

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teleskiguy  Mar 10, 2018 • 10:05:50pm

Now that I think about it, my huge R.E.M. fan sister (10 years older than me) deliberately held back her awesome knowledge of how amazing R.E.M. is because reasons.

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Romantic Heretic  Mar 10, 2018 • 10:06:57pm

re: #116 whitebeach

The most interesting part of this is that UGA has a film school. My guess is that they’re still working in black and white.

They tried it with just white but that didn’t work somehow.

I’ll just let myself out.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 10, 2018 • 10:07:13pm

re: #140 Stanley Sea

Finding this in a Rolling Stone from awhile ago…

2. ‘Nightswimming’
This song began with a very simple piano melody by the band’s bassist Mike Mills. He didn’t see much value in it, but Michael Stipe thought it was brilliant and he wrote this tender song about skinny-dipping around it. The string arrangement was written by another famous bassist: Led Zeppelin’s John Paul Jones. The track didn’t do that well as a single, but in the past 20 years it’s slowly become one of R.E.M.’s most beloved songs.

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Video

try this

R. E. M. ~ Nightswimming

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whitebeach  Mar 10, 2018 • 10:10:49pm

re: #144 Romantic Heretic

They tried it with just white but that didn’t work somehow.

I’ll just let myself out.

Was kinda my point anyway.

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austin_blue  Mar 10, 2018 • 10:11:38pm

re: #143 teleskiguy

Now that I think about it, my huge R.E.M. fan sister (10 years older than me) deliberately held back her awesome knowledge of how amazing R.E.M. is because reasons.

We live and learn, or we don’t live long.

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teleskiguy  Mar 10, 2018 • 10:15:37pm

re: #147 austin_blue

We live and learn, or we don’t live long.

I might buy my eldest sister an Umphrey’s McGee ticket at Red Rocks. I have an inkling that it’ll be the weirdest loudest craziest most fun experience she’s had in some time. I’ve got about four months to think about it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Mar 10, 2018 • 10:16:26pm

Here’s an REM tune I remember fondly from my college days:

REM - Leaving New York OFFICIAL VIDEO (HQ)

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whitebeach  Mar 10, 2018 • 10:16:48pm

re: #147 austin_blue

We live and learn, or we don’t live long.

Isn’t it pretty to think so? But the truth is that I know lots of people all around me who are 70 or 80 years old and haven’t learned a damn thing or had a new idea since they dropped out of high school or came back from Nam or divorced their second husband or whatever.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 10, 2018 • 10:18:15pm

OK, one more.

This was from Reagan time. 1987.

Exhuming McCarthy.

Loyal to the bank of america

REM Exhuming McCarthy W/ lyrics

You’re beautiful more beautiful than me
You’re honorable more honorable than me
Loyal to the Bank of America
It’s a sign of the times
It’s a sign of the times
You’re sharpening stones walking on coals
To improve your business acumen.
Sharpening stones walking on coals
To improve your business acumen.
Vested interest united ties landed gentry rationalize
Look who bought the myth by jingo buy America

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goddamnedfrank  Mar 10, 2018 • 10:19:13pm

re: #129 Stanley Sea

Prob one of my favorites.

I am a sucker for the beauty of harmony.

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I will fight anyone who says this isn’t hands down their best song.

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Stanley Sea  Mar 10, 2018 • 10:20:45pm

re: #148 teleskiguy

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austin_blue  Mar 10, 2018 • 10:24:44pm

re: #148 teleskiguy

I might buy my eldest sister an Umphrey’s McGee ticket at Red Rocks. I have an inkling that it’ll be the weirdest loudest craziest most fun experience she’s had in some time. I’ve got about four months to think about it.

Don’t think. Do it. Red Rocks itself is an experience she will never forget. The best concert venue on the planet. Do her that one, tremendous, simple favor. Your sibling points will last you a lifetime.

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austin_blue  Mar 10, 2018 • 10:28:21pm

re: #150 whitebeach

Isn’t it pretty to think so? But the truth is that I know lots of people all around me who are 70 or 80 years old and haven’t learned a damn thing or had a new idea since they dropped out of high school or came back from Nam or divorced their second husband or whatever.

But they are intellectually dead, aren’t they? Frozen in time and incapable of looking at this world as anything other than static. That’s dead, in my mind. Dead as a boot.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Mar 10, 2018 • 10:38:51pm

Yikes! Good childcare for working parents is something else we don’t have in this country.
Daycare owner gets 21 years for drugging kids to go tanning

Bend OR (KTVZ/CNN) - After nearly one dozen parents testified against her, a daycare owner who drugged numerous children on melatonin then left them alone to go for a tan or exercise was sentenced to more than 21 years in prison.

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fern01  Mar 10, 2018 • 10:44:48pm

re: #17 jaunte

Maybe next time Watters has dinner with Trump, Franklin Graham can tag along.

Trump would rather they brought the girlfriends. Committing adultery with the future wife seems to be how GOP politicians treat their wives in modern times. This is the new family values.

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austin_blue  Mar 10, 2018 • 10:49:42pm

re: #156 Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines

Yikes! Good childcare for working parents is something else we don’t have in this country.
Daycare owner gets 21 years for drugging kids to go tanning

Twenty one years? I know what she did was rock dumb (giving pre-schoolers a completely organic knock-out substance) but man, you can shoot a man in Weatherford, Texas in a bar fight and plead down to five years because “he needed killing”.

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fern01  Mar 10, 2018 • 10:49:58pm

re: #70 Stanley Sea

Trump Stops Crowd From Booing Kim Jong Un

But he’s very happy if they boo all and any of the democrats who are leaders of congress, governors of states, ex presidents - and/or their name is Clinton or Obama.

The word is turning into a cesspit of RW horror - I won’t be sad to leave this continual nightmare

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DodgerFan1988  Mar 10, 2018 • 10:51:23pm
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austin_blue  Mar 10, 2018 • 10:56:38pm

re: #160 DodgerFan1988

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Well, Mr. Reynolds doesn’t seem to like Vlad. That seems reasonable. Too bad our President is busy sucking Vlad’s virtual dick at every opportunity.

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teleskiguy  Mar 10, 2018 • 10:58:55pm

re: #153 Stanley Sea

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Stanley Sea  Mar 10, 2018 • 11:08:05pm
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Stanley Sea  Mar 10, 2018 • 11:09:21pm

Medical field, where our free market directs.

Obvs, I never left west coast time (7 days!) Can’t believe I’m still up.

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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Mar 10, 2018 • 11:19:40pm

re: #158 austin_blue

Twenty one years? I know what she did was rock dumb (giving pre-schoolers a completely organic knock-out substance) but man, you can shoot a man in Weatherford, Texas in a bar fight and plead down to five years because “he needed killing”.

Well, it’s a bit drastic but some of them do need killing.//

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Single-handed sailor  Mar 10, 2018 • 11:20:33pm

re: #164 Stanley Sea

That’s the nice thing about New Orleans, they are on west coast time too. ;)

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austin_blue  Mar 10, 2018 • 11:23:21pm

Well, I just set my Bulova ahead one hour and I am now, oddly, extremely tired. Night all. Sleep well.

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teleskiguy  Mar 10, 2018 • 11:24:41pm

Time is a human construct subject to interpretation.

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austin_blue  Mar 10, 2018 • 11:40:05pm

re: #168 teleskiguy

Time is a human construct subject to interpretation.

On George Bush’s first trip to Europe (which was the first time he left the Western Hemisphere) he was told that the local time was 10:00 am on landing. He asked what time it was in DC.

“Four am, Mr President.”

“Really?”, said the President of the United States.

He immediately asked for a sat phone and called Karl Rove.

(ring ring)

“Uh, hello?’

“Karl? Is that you? This is George.”

“Urm…. yes, Mr. President, this is Karl.”

“Karl! I’m calling you FROM THE FUTURE!”

And with that old but still funny joke, I bid you you sweet dreams and a lovely night.

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Kragar  Mar 10, 2018 • 11:42:25pm
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freetoken  Mar 10, 2018 • 11:49:37pm

Little things that go wrong in your day:

ALL PAIN IN ONE VIDEO!

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VegasGolfer  Mar 11, 2018 • 12:04:11am

re: #170 Kragar

Thom Hartman plugs superbeets too.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 11, 2018 • 12:16:18am

re: #128 The Ghost of a Flea

re: #133 dog philosopher ஐஒஔ௸

Members of the Chinese Communist Party get special benefits and advantages, as well. They get preference in job hiring and promotions (especially in government gigs), a pension when they retire, and state supported health care, among other things. To join the party requires several hours of classes and associated assignments, examinations, a background check and an evaluation of one’s commitment to Maoist principles and “socialism with Chinese characteristics.” Only a small fraction of the population are Party members.

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The Major  Mar 11, 2018 • 12:22:18am

re: #172 VegasGolfer

Thom Hartman plugs superbeets too.

He’s also on RT - which makes him a traitor….

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wheat-dogg  Mar 11, 2018 • 12:25:19am

You youngsters are reminiscing about REM, while I’m listening to my collection of Doobie Brothers CDs (really mp3s, but whatever).

My tastes have changed. Only a few of their songs I still really like, and the rest are just meh.

I may also be the only person on earth who thinks Michael McDonald has a strange singing voice. He sings well, but the timbre of his voice has too much head tone, like he’s singing in the back of his throat all the time.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 11, 2018 • 12:41:11am

re: #17 jaunte

Maybe next time Watters has dinner with Trump, Franklin Graham can tag along.

or Billie.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 11, 2018 • 12:58:00am

Well, it happened.

Xi Jinping cleared to stay on as China’s president with just 2 dissenters among 2,964 votes
High approval rate gives controversial changes veneer of universal support despite criticism

The National People’s Congress passed the historic constitutional amendments with 2,958 votes in favour, only two against, and three abstentions. One ballot was invalid. A total of 2,964 votes were cast.

The endorsement came as no surprise, given the Communist Party’s iron grip on the legislature. But the extremely high approval rate nevertheless gives the controversial move a veneer of universal support within the establishment, despite criticism and scepticism at home and abroad.

With the presidential term limits formally dropped from the constitution, Xi could become one of the country’s longest-serving leaders - to the disquiet of many who fear a return to strongman rule.

The two-term limit on the presidency was introduced by late paramount leader Deng Xiaoping in 1982 to prevent a repeat of Mao Zedong’s tumultuous decades-long reign that only ended in his death. With the vote on Sunday, all three titles Xi holds - including the more important party boss and military chief roles - are free of formal term limits.

scmp.com

Xi is young enough to stay in office another 20 years.

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freetoken  Mar 11, 2018 • 1:00:42am

re: #177 wheat-dogg

I was just about to post this video of a recent talk, about how governments around the world fail at the public interest. She talks about things like kleptocracies and how that foments extremism, etc.

Consider it required viewing for the Trump Epoch:

Coca-Cola World Fund Lecture “Government in the Public Interest: Under Assault?”

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Dave In Austin  Mar 11, 2018 • 1:30:51am
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Kragar  Mar 11, 2018 • 1:35:31am
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Shiplord Kirel, live from behind wingnut lines  Mar 11, 2018 • 1:38:49am

Over there! They’re their idiots!

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Dave In Austin  Mar 11, 2018 • 1:38:52am
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Dave In Austin  Mar 11, 2018 • 3:08:28am
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sagehen  Mar 11, 2018 • 3:21:01am

re: #170 Kragar

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Those kids are indeed pretty damn awesome…

But let’s take a moment to give due credit to the Newton moms and Gabby Giffords whose 5 years of grassroots organizing and lobbying laid the foundation from which the kids aren’t shouting into a void; there’s a receptive audience because somebody got that audience ready to listen.

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Slump-chan  Mar 11, 2018 • 3:35:30am

So back in 1997 or so we were invited to a show by the High Llamas

High Llamas - “Nomads”

because our group at the time was, unexpectedly, very briefly trendy.
Anyway, after the show, we went down to the backstage to meet the band, who were quite friendly. While we were chatting away, there were four other guys who were standing around awkwardly, didn’t join in the conversation, then left in a huff, saying something like “Well, WE have better things to do.” When they were gone I asked who they were. It was REM. I guess they weren’t happy not being recognized.

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Nyet  Mar 11, 2018 • 4:04:40am
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Kragar  Mar 11, 2018 • 4:16:48am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2018 • 4:21:11am

re: #175 wheat-dogg

You youngsters are reminiscing about REM, while I’m listening to my collection of Doobie Brothers CDs (really mp3s, but whatever).

My tastes have changed. Only a few of their songs I still really like, and the rest are just meh.

I may also be the only person on earth who thinks Michael McDonald has a strange singing voice. He sings well, but the timbre of his voice has too much head tone, like he’s singing in the back of his throat all the time.

His voice is is so totally Sound of the 70’s.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 11, 2018 • 4:35:07am

re: #188 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

His voice is is so totally Sound of the 70’s.

Yup. Especially after he left the Doobies for a solo career.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 11, 2018 • 4:37:26am

Family member posted this on Facebook today. I am not saying anything, but I wish I could knock some sense into him.

Image: 27540694_1632144683501069_7329160547462618170_n.jpg

It’s the latest version of “America: Love it or leave it” that we heard back in the anti-war days of the 1960s and ’70s.

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Kragar  Mar 11, 2018 • 4:46:10am
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Kragar  Mar 11, 2018 • 4:46:46am

re: #190 wheat-dogg

You could ask how long did they wait after Obama left to come back to the US

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2018 • 4:51:09am

re: #190 wheat-dogg

Family member posted this on Facebook today. I am not saying anything, but I wish I could knock some sense into him.

Image: 27540694_1632144683501069_7329160547462618170_n.jpg

It’s the latest version of “America: Love it or leave it” that we heard back in the anti-war days of the 1960s and ’70s.

people who post crap like that on FB get blocked or dropped entirely

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2018 • 4:51:54am

re: #192 Kragar

You could ask how long did they wait after Obama left to come back to the US

you could, but remember, these people have historical amnesia and tunnel vision

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Nyet  Mar 11, 2018 • 4:53:20am

re: #191 Kragar

That’s right, cut off the oxygen.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2018 • 4:54:37am

re: #195 Nyet

That’s right, cut off the oxygen.

Freedom of speech does not guarantee access to private platforms as broadcast channels.

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Nyet  Mar 11, 2018 • 4:56:06am

re: #196 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Freedom of speech does not guarantee access to private platforms as broadcast channels.

Many right-wingers, incl. neo-Nazis, now argue otherwise (using the specious analogy with civil rights).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2018 • 4:57:49am

re: #197 Nyet

Many right-wingers, incl. neo-Nazis, now argue otherwise (using the specious analogy with civil rights).

It is just like with blacks and open carry or (Christian vs non-Christian) prayers in schools or at public meetings: they argue “principles” that are simply window dressing for their own limited self-interest.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 11, 2018 • 5:16:45am

re: #193 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

people who post crap like that on FB get blocked or dropped entirely

We already have an understanding to avoid politics in face-to-face situations. He’s not someone I can easily drop from Facebook without creating even more family drama than we have already, so I just grit my teeth and carry on.

It bothers me that someone a generation younger than I am sounds like the fogies I remember hearing when I was a teenager.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2018 • 5:18:12am

re: #199 wheat-dogg

We already have an understanding to avoid politics in face-to-face situations. He’s not someone I can easily drop from Facebook without creating even more family drama than we have already, so I just grit my teeth and carry on.

It bothers me that someone a generation younger than I am sounds like the fogies I remember hearing when I was a teenager.

jut block their posts

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wheat-dogg  Mar 11, 2018 • 5:20:39am

re: #200 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

jut block their posts

TBH I am on Facebook so infrequently that I am not going to bother.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2018 • 5:28:11am

re: #201 wheat-dogg

TBH I am on Facebook so infrequently that I am not going to bother.

that helps.

I recently wondered about an old High School buddy, more of a casual acquaintance, so I looked him up, had one glance of all the pro-gun, anti-Hillary and anti-Obama stuff on his timeline and decided not to even bother contacting him.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 11, 2018 • 5:32:14am

re: #202 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

that helps.

I recently wondered about an old High School buddy, more of a casual acquaintance, so I looked him up, had one glance of all the pro-gun, anti-Hillary and anti-Obama stuff on his timeline and decided not to even bother contacting him.

One of my best friends from high school well full-metal wingnut way back in the Reagan days. In high school he was a neo-hippy peacenik. Went to college, got a job on Wall Street, and his politics swung 180 degrees. He’d carry a handgun to work, according to mutual friends still in the NY area. We haven’t talked since our freshman year in college, so I don’t know what transpired to make him a raging RWNJ.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2018 • 5:43:40am

re: #203 wheat-dogg

One of my best friends from high school well full-metal wingnut way back in the Reagan days. In high school he was a neo-hippy peacenik. Went to college, got a job on Wall Street, and his politics swung 180 degrees. He’d carry a handgun to work, according to mutual friends still in the NY area. We haven’t talked since our freshman year in college, so I don’t know what transpired to make him a raging RWNJ.

One of my best college buddies later came out of the closet and went from being left-leaning to full-on Republican. I gave up trying to talk politics as he turned everything into some sort of personal attack.
He does not seem to see any inherent contradiction in supporting a party whose Vice President would like to send him and his husband to conversion shock therapy.

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 11, 2018 • 6:10:49am

re: #104 jaunte

When I think about a Women’s March, Louis Farrakhan is about the last person I’d associate with it.

None of us who support and participate in the Women’s March movement are thinking about Farrakhan. Believe me.

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jeffreyw  Mar 11, 2018 • 6:14:02am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Patricia Kayden  Mar 11, 2018 • 6:29:14am

For all of the PA LGF commenters:

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wheat-dogg  Mar 11, 2018 • 6:38:10am

re: #204 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

One of my best college buddies later came out of the closet and went from being left-leaning to full-on Republican. I gave up trying to talk politics as he turned everything into some sort of personal attack.
He does not seem to see any inherent contradiction in supporting a party whose Vice President would like to send him and his husband to conversion shock therapy.

Sounds a lot like Caitlyn Jenner.

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 11, 2018 • 6:45:48am

re: #199 wheat-dogg

We already have an understanding to avoid politics in face-to-face situations. He’s not someone I can easily drop from Facebook without creating even more family drama than we have already, so I just grit my teeth and carry on.

It bothers me that someone a generation younger than I am sounds like the fogies I remember hearing when I was a teenager.

You can unfollow him without unfriending him if you don’t want to read his posts.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2018 • 6:47:58am

re: #208 wheat-dogg

Sounds a lot like Caitlyn Jenner.

He reminds me that the GOP is writing off a large block of voters over their Fundamentalist family values ideology: He and his husband are both high earners, do not have dependent deductions nor do they own a big house in a district with good schools, so they are interested in lower taxes and not too worried about things like public education or tuition, but if it were up to the GOP, they would not even be married in the first place

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Big Beautiful Door  Mar 11, 2018 • 6:54:19am

re: #210 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He reminds me that the GOP is writing off a large block of voters over their Fundamentalist family values ideology: He and his husband are both high earners, do not have dependent deductions nor do they own a big house in a district with good schools, so they are interested in lower taxes and not too worried about things like public education or tuition, but if it were up to the GOP, they would not even be married in the first place

Yes, but rightwing fundamentalists are a bigger block of voters. The GOP has nothing to offer people who aren’t in the 1% except culture wars and racism.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2018 • 6:54:56am

uh oh, Maggie is in trouble…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2018 • 6:58:11am
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The Major  Mar 11, 2018 • 6:59:52am

re: #201 wheat-dogg

TBH I am on Facebook so infrequently that I am not going to bother.

Just for giggles I temporarily signed up for Facebook IRL, and then quickly deleted it. Bloody Facebook kept sending me email even after I deleted it - WTF?

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wheat-dogg  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:01:45am

re: #209 Big Beautiful Door

You can unfollow him without unfriending him if you don’t want to read his posts.

Yes I know

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BlueSpotinAL  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:02:28am

re: #206 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

The house is gone. We are not in Kansas anymore.

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The Major  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:03:03am

re: #206 jeffreyw

It appears a woodpecker is feasting on the side of our place - got a good 2-3” size hole in the wooden shingle.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:03:29am

re: #214 The Major

Just for giggles I temporarily signed up for Facebook IRL, and then quickly deleted it. Bloody Facebook kept sending me email even after I deleted it - WTF?

Once you are on their servers, you are there forever.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:04:10am

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

Honeymoon is over, Mags.

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Amory Blaine  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:04:31am

Bice: The drinking age in Wisconsin is 21? That’s news to Sen. Ron Johnson

U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson tried to shoot down any suggestion that federal lawmakers raise the age at which young adults can buy guns.

Johnson told a liberal talk show this week that 18-year-olds should be able to purchase a firearm since, among other things, they can legally drink beer at that age.

Except they can’t.

Wisconsin’s drinking age is 21.

On Thursday, Johnson was quizzed on a range of topics during an appearance on “The Devil’s Advocates” show in Madison. Asked whether Congress should raise the age at which people can buy guns from 18 to 21, Johnson offered a resounding no.

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The Major  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:05:36am

re: #218 wheat-dogg

Once you are on their servers, you are there forever.

And I thought Acxiom was bad with all the data they had on you - looks like we got a new #1 infovillian….

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:07:08am

re: #211 Big Beautiful Door

Yes, but rightwing fundamentalists are a bigger block of voters. The GOP has nothing to offer people who aren’t in the 1% except culture wars and racism.

Latinos are also rather conservative on social matters, but are also into families: real families. That means they are interested in good schools and strong community institutions, the things that cost tax money.

The GOP will eventually pay for doing so much to alienate a large and influential block of voters.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:10:18am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:13:49am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:14:51am

good grief…he is such a delusional moron

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:17:37am

re: #217 The Major

It appears a woodpecker is feasting on the side of our place - got a good 2-3” size hole in the wooden shingle.

If it is a woodpecker, something else was feasting there first. We had a similar issue, but it was a nest-minded squirrel at a soffit. It took a couple days and some hardware cloth to dissuade it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:18:45am

re: #224 Backwoods_Sleuth

A very happy Mothers’ Day to all my followers in the UK and a very happy “panic for a moment when you think you’ve forgotten Mothers’ Day and then realise the British do it on a different date” day to everyone else.

always a serious issue for expat Brits

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:19:02am

re: #225 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief…he is such a delusional moron

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At any other time, with any other electorate, he would be laughed into seclusion.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:19:32am

re: #228 Decatur Deb

At any other time, with any other electorate, he would be laughed into seclusion.

and any other press

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:21:25am

re: #229 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

and any other press

Our precious press comprise the management and workforce of a brothel—always have.

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jeffreyw  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:24:20am

LGF seems slow to me this morning.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:25:30am
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wheat-dogg  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:26:33am

re: #221 The Major

And I thought Acxiom was bad with all the data they had on you - looks like we got a new #1 infovillian….

Seriously, it is a major issue, especially when a Facebook user dies. The heirs have to tell FB support to completely erase the account — manually I assume. China’s answer to Facebook, QQ, instead deletes accounts that are dormant for more than six months. Facebook, meanwhile, keeps on thrashing that email address.

Facebook’s code is a mess. It would be a herculean task to clean it up and reset the databases.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:26:34am
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wheat-dogg  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:27:24am

re: #222 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Latinos are also rather conservative on social matters, but are also into families: real families. That means they are interested in good schools and strong community institutions, the things that cost tax money.

The GOP will eventually pay for doing so much to alienate a large and influential block of voters.

Deporting members of a voting bloc is never a good idea.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:29:26am

re: #234 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Brutal” Canada. Not so innocent “European Union”. But be nice to Kim Jung Un.

WTF??

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:31:07am

re: #236 wheat-dogg

“Brutal” Canada. Not so innocent “European Union”. But be nice to Kim Jung Un.

WTF??

Shhhh. He’s being seductive again.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:32:58am

re: #231 jeffreyw

LGF seems slow to me this morning.

I’ve been having connection issues while running my VPN. When I click “New Comments” I only get the spinning arrows, and reloading the page returns an “Waiting for available socket” message from the VPN (Lantern). I have to shut down and VPN and restart it.

But, it seems I have this problem only with Opera and not with Firefox.

And the government is being especially strict with VPNs because of the big Party Congress in Beijing. So, my woes might be temporary.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:34:45am

re: #237 Decatur Deb

Shhhh. He’s being seductive again.

Trump’s idea of foreplay is a $100 bill tucked into a waistband.

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BigPapa  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:36:26am

Still seems fast enough for me.

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wheat-dogg  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:38:24am

Fast or slow LGF, it’s late here and I have morning classes tomorrow. So I’m calling it a night. Laterz!

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jeffreyw  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:43:28am

I was having trouble getting the site to load, trouble posting - the bird picnic photo seemed to take forever, I clicked the post button again and got the dupe post warning. When it finally posted I tried another comment and got the dupe warning again. I reloaded the site and the same problems were still with me. Auto load comment function is slow. Running chrome, Firefox was slow, too.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:45:04am

re: #242 jeffreyw

I was having trouble getting the site to load, trouble posting - the bird picnic photo seemed to take forever, I clicked the post button again and got the dupe post warning. When it finally posted I tried another comment and got the dupe warning again. I reloaded the site and the same problems were still with me. Auto load comment function is slow. Running chrome, Firefox was slow, too.

Tried loading a joke post from Imgur a minute ago—tended to double load, so I killed it in preview.

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jeffreyw  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:47:45am

Hmm, in firefox now, my 242 is showing as posted, in chrome it’s still in the comment box.

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dangerman  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:51:13am

re: #39 JordanRules

@bpolitics
“This is the president’s vision,” said Peter Navarro, Trump’s ascendant trade adviser. “My function, really, as an economist is to try to provide the underlying analytics that confirm his intuition. And his intuition is always right in these matters
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My job is to make up shit to prove the conclusion he already came to

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:53:25am

re: #244 jeffreyw

Hmm, in firefox now, my 242 is showing as posted, in chrome it’s still in the comment box.

Turn your browser forward an hour.

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Belafon  Mar 11, 2018 • 7:58:35am

re: #190 wheat-dogg

The best response to that is the quote from Teddy Roosevelt about president’s and loyalty.

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dangerman  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:01:16am

re: #61 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

One of the things that bothers me is that there isn’t a real professional organization like the IEEE or the ASCE for software engineers. There are some programmers out there that write some frighteningly awful bullshit and don’t stop to think about the ramifications of their decisions. Computers are everywhere these days, and ethical decisions about what we do with those computers are literally around every corner. Each Experian data breach is the equivalent of a Tay River Bridge incident to the computer science industry, and yet nobody seems to want to do anything about it.

There is the iccp.
In 82 I became a cdp
Now they call it ccp
Hoped it would have caught on more. Alas

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ObserverArt  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:03:11am

re: #203 wheat-dogg

One of my best friends from high school well full-metal wingnut way back in the Reagan days. In high school he was a neo-hippy peacenik. Went to college, got a job on Wall Street, and his politics swung 180 degrees. He’d carry a handgun to work, according to mutual friends still in the NY area. We haven’t talked since our freshman year in college, so I don’t know what transpired to make him a raging RWNJ.

$$$$$$$

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ObserverArt  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:08:37am

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Steve Mnuchin has a very punchable face.

…and a punchable mouth.

That interview may be one of the stupidest I have ever seen on political TV.

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ObserverArt  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:18:47am

re: #242 jeffreyw

I was having trouble getting the site to load, trouble posting - the bird picnic photo seemed to take forever, I clicked the post button again and got the dupe post warning. When it finally posted I tried another comment and got the dupe warning again. I reloaded the site and the same problems were still with me. Auto load comment function is slow. Running chrome, Firefox was slow, too.

I have no problems with LGF.

But ATT seems to be hosed big time this morning. Can’t get to account or email.

Not good when a huge communications company is down. But this is the Time Of Trump. He done made America not so great.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:19:16am

re: #193 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

people who post crap like that on FB get blocked or dropped entirely

Or you could just get off Facebook entirely (like I did).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:20:46am

re: #252 Ace Rothstein

Or you could just get off Facebook entirely (like I did).

I use it to keep in touch with far-flung friends and family and it is good for advertising gigs and other upcoming events.

But I do not see it as a source for news or as a forum for going off on political rants.

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jeffreyw  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:21:26am

Edge browser now, LGF sign in page didn’t take me anywhere, just spinning in the tab awaiting response. Reloaded and it had me signed in.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:22:49am

re: #250 ObserverArt

Steve Mnuchin has a very punchable face.

…and a punchable mouth.

That interview may be one of the stupidest I have ever seen on political TV.

I call him “Fish Lips.”

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ObserverArt  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:36:17am

Oh well, looks like Chucky Todd is closing his show with his guests Matt Bai and Peggy Noonan saying Stormy Daniels story is nothing because Trump never ran on being a moral guy and we all know how he is anyway.

I guess all the stuff the story is really about, like lying, pay-offs, bribery means nothing because, well we know Trump is about all that too.

And Peggy regaled us with a year and a half old story of a person she met on the campaign trail who when asked if he was troubled by Trump’s behavior said he was voting for a junkyard dog.

Let’s all celebrate our fleabag, mangy, rabid dog of a president.

Uggh. This country.

I am going to go play with some more wall repair compounds. Plaster I understand.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:37:48am

re: #256 ObserverArt

Peggy clearly had three martinis before the show this morning.

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:38:30am

On This Week, the Jersey Whale is doing Jersey Whale things.

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mmmirele  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:39:20am

My brother found this a couple of weeks ago when going through stuff at my parents’ house. It’s a letter to the editor published in the Daily Texan (UT-Austin). I’m kind of amazed my dad hauled this through a half-dozen cross-country moves in the next 15 years.

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:39:24am

re: #256 ObserverArt

With apologies to the few honest folk who play the piano and change the linens in a sporting house, I refer to my number 230.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:40:00am

re: #256 ObserverArt

Oh well, looks like Chucky Todd is closing his show with his guests Matt Bai and Peggy Noonan saying Stormy Daniels story is nothing because Trump never ran on being a moral guy and we all know how he is anyway.

I guess all the stuff the story is really about, like lying, pay-offs, bribery means nothing because, well we know Trump is about all that too.

And Peggy regaled us with a year and a half old story of a person she met on the campaign trail who when asked if he was troubled by Trump’s behavior said he was voting for a junkyard dog.

Let all celebrate our fleabag, mangy, rabid dog of a president.

Uggh. This country.

I am going to go play with some more wall repair compounds. Plaster I understand.

You nailed it. Trump ran as the anti-politician: his appeal was directed at those who had nothing but disregard for government and hated politicians and politics as usual.

That allows him to get away with things that would ruin the career of any professional politician.

It also helps that chaos and disinformation are easier to spread than order and truth.

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mmmirele  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:40:08am

And I forgot the actual picture.

Some things never change.
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Eventual Carrion  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:48:26am

Momma and kittens doing well. They are 3 weeks now and starting to explore. As some might remember I have talked about my wife and I being foster family for a local no-kill shelter. We take in problem critters or ones that need a little special care. We had one cat finally get adopted, and they had this one that was far along in her pregnancy when she showed up there. We took her in so there would not be any problem between her brood and the rest of the cats in the shelter. They are really beginning to show some character.

Momma and kittens
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retired cynic  Mar 11, 2018 • 8:51:27am

re: #263 Eventual Carrion

You are Good People!

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A Cranky One  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:10:33am

I hope Charles doesn’t mind my linking to the following GoFundMe:

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retired cynic  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:14:16am

re: #265 A Cranky One

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A Cranky One  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:20:45am

re: #266 retired cynic

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CleverToad  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:20:53am

re: #265 A Cranky One

I hope Charles doesn’t mind my linking to the following GoFundMe:

gofundme.com

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A Cranky One  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:25:36am

re: #268 CleverToad

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Skip Intro  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:27:36am

Apparently Willard Romney is being treated like a rock star in Utah, having attached himself firmly to Trump’s ass and celebrating Zinke’s theft of 75% of the public lands in Utah. Big 2A guy, loves hunting.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:28:33am

he’s apparently not having a good morning in church (he is in church since it’s Sunday morning, right?)…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:33:05am
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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:33:26am

re: #263 Eventual Carrion

Momma and kittens doing well. They are 3 weeks now and starting to explore. As some might remember I have talked about my wife and I being foster family for a local no-kill shelter. We take in problem critters or ones that need a little special care. We had one cat finally get adopted, and they had this one that was far along in her pregnancy when she showed up there. We took her in so there would not be any problem between her brood and the rest of the cats in the shelter. They are really beginning to show some character.

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Soon the gamboling about begins!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:34:24am

re: #225 Backwoods_Sleuth

good grief…he is such a delusional moron

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Once again, he lies.

We had a special election in CA-34 where Democrat Jimmy Gomez defeated the Republican turned Democrat Kochsucker by a landslide.

It’s 5-1 for President Shithead but like everything else that comes out of his mouth, it’s a lie. Even when President Shithead farts and burps, he lies!

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:38:53am

re: #274 Joe Bacon 🌹

So that bastard is coming to California to inspect the wall prototypes. St San Andreas could ya do us a favor? I hope we greet his motorcade with all backs turned on him. And middle fingers checking the wind.latimes.com

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ObserverArt  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:41:16am

re: #272 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yashar Ali 🐘 ✔
@yashar

NEW: Lawyers associated with President Donald Trump are considering legal action to stop “60 Minutes” from airing an interview with Stormy Daniels. @chrisgeidner reports buzzfeed.com

12:20 PM - Mar 11, 2018

Nope…nothing there, nothing to hide…everyone knows this is just Trump.

I hope CBS shows it no matter what Trump’s lawyers try to pull.

However, I await the outrage from the wingnuts about stopping CBS’s 1A rights.

I just wonder how long I’ll be waiting. I think I know.

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meteor  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:43:26am

re: #263 Eventual Carrion

Squee!

Oh, and 1-1 Bournemouth vs. Tottenham, late in the first half.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:50:42am

Why I’m angry this morning…

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Decatur Deb  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:52:37am

re: #278 Joe Bacon 🌹

Why I’m angry this morning…

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:53:12am

re: #278 Joe Bacon 🌹

Seriously, people, get off Facebook forever. All it does it piss you off.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:59:42am

re: #279 Decatur Deb

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Ace Rothstein  Mar 11, 2018 • 9:59:56am

I hope Trump keeps batting 1.000 in his kiss-of-death endorsements on Tuesday.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Mar 11, 2018 • 10:01:23am

re: #282 Ace Rothstein

I hope Trump keeps batting 1.000 in his kiss-of-death endorsements on Tuesday.

Ace, I remember Conor’s dad. Tom Lamb. Tom was a hard-core Democrat fighting for working people in the State legislature. It was a sad day when he stepped down because of illness.

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7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Mar 11, 2018 • 10:04:26am

I just had to promise my daughter-in-law that I would stop making political posts on Facebook. She agrees politically, but she’s friends with a lot of people who fight with me and it upsets her so much that it causes her great deal of stress. This is going to be a challenge.

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Flying Squirrel Girl  Mar 11, 2018 • 10:14:03am

re: #280 Ace Rothstein

Agree. I kicked FB shortly after the election and feel like much healthier. I occasionally feel out of the loop with family, but I remind myself that for many years I didn’t know the ins and outs of their everyday lives. I am much less angry at folks without FB in my life.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2018 • 10:17:57am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2018 • 10:19:04am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 11, 2018 • 10:26:20am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2018 • 10:30:17am

I’m shocked…SHOCKED I say!!111!!!

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Eventual Carrion  Mar 11, 2018 • 10:32:26am

re: #273 Unshaken Defiance

Soon the gamboling about begins!

Yeah, their eyes just opened up this past week. 2 of them I have caught doing a little playful swatting and biting. The other ones have been content to just eat and sleep still. Have them out of the birthing container today since this morning and most all are being a little curious of the expanded surroundings.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2018 • 10:38:37am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2018 • 10:40:33am

re: #284 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)

I just had to promise my daughter-in-law that I would stop making political posts on Facebook. She agrees politically, but she’s friends with a lot of people who fight with me and it upsets her so much that it causes her great deal of stress. This is going to be a challenge.

This is where I come to post on politics. FB is for keeping up with friends and family and upcoming local events.

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mmmirele  Mar 11, 2018 • 10:41:01am

re: #276 ObserverArt

Nope…nothing there, nothing to hide…everyone knows this is just Trump.

I hope CBS shows it no matter what Trump’s lawyers try to pull.

However, I await the outrage from the wingnuts about stopping CBS’s 1A rights.

I just wonder how long I’ll be waiting. I think I know.

I’m thinking we may have a prior restraint issue here. Courts tend to be REALLY leery of injunctions that amount to prior restraint. In this issue, we don’t have a national security issue or obscenity problem, which are the two areas courts have waded into. The general way courts have handled attempted prior restraint is to smack it down and then say, “We’ll talk about damages later.” And Trump’s attorneys know damned good and well that Trump is a public figure so would have to meet a higher standard for libel.

So yeah, try to get a court to shut this down. Just means more people will tune in to 60 Minutes.

ETA: Got to mention this as well. The only action that can really be taken is against Stormy Daniels. CBS is not a partner to whatever agreement was signed. Trump and his lawyers have to go after Daniels. But just the fact that Trump’s lawyers are going after her makes the interview newsworthy and difficult, if not impossible to suppress.

Good God, but Trump is surrounded by idiots.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2018 • 10:41:39am

re: #289 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I’m shocked…SHOCKED I say!!111!!!

I recall reading “A Wrinkle in Time” in the fifth or sixth grade.

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BigPapa  Mar 11, 2018 • 10:43:14am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2018 • 10:43:37am

re: #294 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I recall reading “A Wrinkle in Time” in the fifth or sixth grade.

me, too

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Charles Johnson  Mar 11, 2018 • 10:43:59am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2018 • 10:44:31am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Mar 11, 2018 • 10:44:48am

Forget it, Jake. It’s Chinatown The Daily Caller.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2018 • 10:51:27am

MILWAUKEE (AP) — Milwaukee police say a 9-year-old girl is dead after she was accidentally shot by her brother.

The girl was shot inside a home on Milwaukee’s north side on Saturday. Police say the brother is a minor and was taken to Milwaukee County Children’s Court Center.

Police say the girl’s parents, a 29-year-old Milwaukee woman and a 32-year-old Milwaukee man, were arrested on multiple charges. Police will present the case to the Milwaukee County district attorney’s office in the coming days.

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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 11, 2018 • 10:56:49am

Love my hometown
mynewsla.com

The Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors voted Tuesday to contribute $1 million, growing to $2 million next year, to a legal aid fund for immigrants facing deportation proceedings.

County officials and Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti announced the creation of the $10 million L.A. Justice Fund on Monday, calling it a direct response to Donald Trump’s threat to increase deportations of undocumented immigrants and other “dangerous rhetoric” by the president-elect.
Supervisors Hilda Solis and Janice Hahn recommended the county’s participation.
“We have a history of providing help to all residents,” Solis said, noting that the county’s social services safety net provides lunches for seniors and children and emergency medical care for uninsured residents, documented or not.

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dangerman  Mar 11, 2018 • 10:57:10am

re: #293 mmmirele


Good God, but Trump is surrounded by idiots.

idiot surrounded by idiot does idiotic things and other idiots are thrilled

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2018 • 11:04:32am
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makeitstop  Mar 11, 2018 • 11:08:46am

Last night, I bid goodbye to my Windows phone (moment of silence) and have joined the Android community with a Galaxy J7.

Changing phones is weird.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2018 • 11:09:18am

North Korea is a win-win for Trump: if he actually brings back visible results, then he can be praised as a Presidential deal-maker. If he does not, then he is a tough negotiator who won’t back down to a bully.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2018 • 11:09:19am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Mar 11, 2018 • 11:10:28am

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2018 • 11:13:27am

heh

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makeitstop  Mar 11, 2018 • 11:13:48am

Looks like Mags is feeling a little spurned this morning.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Mar 11, 2018 • 11:18:10am
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ObserverArt  Mar 11, 2018 • 11:20:40am

re: #308 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh

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I’m sending thoughts and prayers to Glenn Greenmold this day. I hope he can get over his life-long bout with being terminally asshurt.

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jeffreyw  Mar 11, 2018 • 11:27:03am
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Unshaken Defiance  Mar 11, 2018 • 11:27:04am

FTR the only way I ever want to See Stormy Daniels on a monitor is helping take down Trumps admin. Setting aside the whole porn/sex worker aspect… Every brand seems damaged by doing any biz with Donald Trump. Starting with the Trump brand itself. Hotels, resorts, entire districts like the boardwalk around Trump Casinos.

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wrenchwench  Mar 11, 2018 • 11:30:42am

We thought a cat was spending an awful lot of time checking us out. Then we figured out that’s part of the tree. The tree was cut down yesterday. The cat went with it.

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Dr Lizardo  Mar 11, 2018 • 11:30:57am

re: #313 Unshaken Defiance

FTR the only way I ever want to See Stormy Daniels on a monitor is helping take down Trumps admin. Setting aside the whole porn/sex worker aspect… Every brand seems damaged by doing any biz with Donald Trump. Starting with the Trump brand itself. Hotels, resorts, entire districts like the boardwalk around Trump Casinos.

Trump has a sort of ‘negative Midas touch’ if you will.

Everything he touches turns to shit.

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Interesting Times  Mar 11, 2018 • 11:31:18am

re: #293 mmmirele

So yeah, try to get a court to shut this down. Just means more people will tune in to 60 Minutes.

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dangerman  Mar 11, 2018 • 11:55:48am

re: #305 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

North Korea is a win-win for Trump: if he actually brings back visible results, then he can be praised as a Presidential deal-maker. If he does not, then he is a tough negotiator who won’t back down to a bully.

How’s he gonna make a deal that doesn’t look like the Iran deal?

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dangerman  Mar 11, 2018 • 12:03:44pm

re: #315 Dr Lizardo

Trump has a sort of ‘negative Midas touch’ if you will.

Everything he touches turns to shit.

King Midas in reverse… the hollies

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Slump-chan  Mar 11, 2018 • 12:11:21pm

re: #315 Dr Lizardo

Trump has a sort of ‘negative Midas touch’ if you will.

Everything he touches turns to shit.

King Merdas?
King Shite-us?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2018 • 12:21:12pm

re: #317 dangerman

How’s he gonna make a deal that doesn’t look like the Iran deal?

It will, but it will not be an Obama deal

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Mar 11, 2018 • 12:22:17pm

re: #307 I Would Prefer Not To

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