The Bob Cesca Show: This Is a Dark Ride

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

This Is A Dark Ride — NSFW; Author and podcaster Kimberley A. Johnson is here; Trump cancels North Korea summit; South Korea bewildered; Trump misspells Kim Jong Un; James Clapper confirms that Trump won because of the Russia attack; Constitutional Crisis Underway; Two DOJ Briefings with lawmakers; Jeff Flake nailed Trump again; Tomi Lahren hit by water; American voters are stupid; Jared Kushner gets his security clearance; Michael Cohen paid $400K by Ukraine; and so much more.

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439 comments

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Ace Rothstein  May 24, 2018 • 6:54:12pm
American voters are stupid;

I approve of this.

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The Major  May 24, 2018 • 6:56:19pm

As I alluded to downstairs:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2018 • 6:56:32pm
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Kragar  May 24, 2018 • 6:57:03pm
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austin_blue  May 24, 2018 • 6:57:09pm

This isn’t a Dark Ride, this is the Highway to Hell.

AC/DC - Highway to Hell

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teleskiguy  May 24, 2018 • 6:58:00pm
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Kragar  May 24, 2018 • 6:59:00pm
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Teukka  May 24, 2018 • 6:59:40pm

re: #6 teleskiguy

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Thunderstruck by Steve’n’Seagulls (LIVE)

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Renaissance_Man  May 24, 2018 • 6:59:57pm

re: #2 The Major

As I alluded to downstairs:

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This strikes me as wishful thinking on the part of said analysts.

The Chinese are not idiots. They know that the odds of Trump actually managing to enact any diplomatic act, much less the most difficult diplomatic act of the past 50 years, are zero. They didn’t have to get involved or interfere.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2018 • 7:00:55pm
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Belafon  May 24, 2018 • 7:03:21pm

re: #9 Renaissance_Man

This strikes me as wishful thinking on the part of said analysts.

The Chinese are not idiots. They know that the odds of Trump actually managing to enact any diplomatic act, much less the most difficult diplomatic act of the past 50 years, are zero. They didn’t have to get involved or interfere.

The problem for the Chinese, though, is that North and South Korea were talking.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2018 • 7:03:34pm
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William Lewis  May 24, 2018 • 7:03:40pm

re: #2 The Major

As I alluded to downstairs:

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Lots of money & high tech in the south, lots of low cost labor in the north (that would still be a better living than they’d ever known)? Of course the Chinese are terrified of a reunified Korea. Make the old tiger economies look like cubs.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2018 • 7:04:39pm

well, dana will love this:

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William Lewis  May 24, 2018 • 7:05:44pm

re: #8 Teukka

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My favorite cover of that song. But I love their Iron Maiden even more.

Steve ‘n’ Seagulls - Aces High

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Kragar  May 24, 2018 • 7:05:48pm

re: #10 Backwoods_Sleuth

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William Lewis  May 24, 2018 • 7:06:11pm

re: #11 Belafon

The problem for the Chinese, though, is that North and South Korea were talking.

This.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2018 • 7:06:39pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  May 24, 2018 • 7:07:52pm

re: #13 William Lewis

Lots of money & high tech in the south, lots of low cost labor in the north (that would still be a better living than they’d ever known)? Of course the Chinese are terrified of a reunified Korea. Make the old tiger economies look like cubs.

The minute you open North Korea you have a massive (and expensive) humanitarian crisis.

Labor’s cheap in DPRK because human beings literally have no value.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2018 • 7:09:20pm

re: #14 Backwoods_Sleuth

well, dana will love this:

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William Lewis  May 24, 2018 • 7:10:52pm

re: #19 The Ghost of a Flea

The minute you open North Korea you have a massive (and expensive) humanitarian crisis.

Labor’s cheap in DPRK because human beings literally have no value.

Giving them value - any - will still step them up from where they are by more they can imagine and be cheaper than the labor in the south. Factories in the north will be a capitalist paradise for at least two generations.

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ipsos  May 24, 2018 • 7:10:58pm

Many thanks to the anonymous benefactor who gifted me a subscription!

I’m so grateful for this little green oasis of sanity.

Pineapple pizza’s on m…. oh, crap, I’ve already screwed this up, haven’t I?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2018 • 7:12:32pm
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stpaulbear  May 24, 2018 • 7:16:54pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

The only way that I could watch less football would be to quit going to family gatherings at my sister’s house. At least their favorite sport to watch on TV is golf.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 24, 2018 • 7:17:57pm
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teleskiguy  May 24, 2018 • 7:18:38pm

re: #24 stpaulbear

The only way that I could watch less football would be to quit going to family gatherings at my sister’s house. At least their favorite sport to watch on TV is golf.

“You ever watch golf on TV? It’s like watching flies fuck. I get more excited picking out socks.”

-George Carlin

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MsJ  May 24, 2018 • 7:21:43pm

re: #4 Kragar

I really wish they’d retire the word Firebrand and just call it like it is; they’re assholes.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 24, 2018 • 7:23:46pm

re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth

HOLY FUCKING SHIT WE ARE BEING GOVERNED BY A MIDDLE SCHOOL BULLY DESPERATELY TRYING TO MAKE FRIENDS BUT UNABLE TO CONCEDE ANY VULNERABILITY OR DOMINANCE BECAUSE DEEP INSIDE HE’S JUST NOT CAPABLE OF CARING ABOUT PEOPLE

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jaunte  May 24, 2018 • 7:24:23pm
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JordanRules  May 24, 2018 • 7:26:39pm

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Didn’t it just happen? Sometimes these stories change after the fact.

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retired cynic  May 24, 2018 • 7:26:53pm

re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth

THAT was my guess.

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stpaulbear  May 24, 2018 • 7:27:08pm

re: #26 teleskiguy

“You ever watch golf on TV? It’s like watching flies fuck. I get more excited picking out socks.”

-George Carlin

My sister and bil are really into it. They take vacations to go watch tournaments.

I’ve never given a rat’s ass about football.

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ObserverArt  May 24, 2018 • 7:27:33pm

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

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It will be interesting to see how the police and prosecutors handle this. Does it fall into citizen vigilante or is it protecting the public/defense???

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jaunte  May 24, 2018 • 7:27:57pm

I admire the discipline Eric Swalwell is exhibiting, in continuing to call the Trump flunkies he works around his “colleagues.”

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makeitstop  May 24, 2018 • 7:28:08pm

Don’t forget Hayseed Dixie…

Hayseed Dixie - Back in Black

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William Lewis  May 24, 2018 • 7:28:46pm

Ok, WAY OT, but holy sweet gregorian chanting catfish batman, this the most awesome cover I’ve stumbled on in a long time…

An amazing bluegrass cover of “Rocket Man”.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 24, 2018 • 7:30:44pm

re: #29 jaunte

Every day, it’s like listening to a shitheel threaten his wife.

Every fucking day.

I’m pretty sure my therapist is scheduling me extra time, because I need running room to synopsize whichever Kafka story I feel describes my experiences at the moment.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 24, 2018 • 7:31:53pm

I mean, seriously, did the POTUS just do a more lethal Ralph Cramden’s…”One of these days, Alice…BANG! ZOOM! Straight to the moon!”?

yes, he absolutely did

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MsJ  May 24, 2018 • 7:33:46pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  May 24, 2018 • 7:37:19pm

…it’s either that or he’s using a PUA manual as the basis for diplomatic strategy.

OH FUCK.

Is the hair peacocking?

The hair is peacocking.

Like fucked-up Lovecraftian peacocking, but…

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Belafon  May 24, 2018 • 7:38:12pm

re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth

What was the previous time he did this?

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majii  May 24, 2018 • 7:39:01pm

re: #4 Kragar “Former Texas congressman Steve Stockman found guilty of 23 felonies”

What I liked most in the article was reading that Stockman was taken into federal custody immediately after the verdict was read. That’s where I’ve thought he has belonged since I first began paying attention to him and the many, many lies he tells. Sleaze runs off him like water flowing over a waterfall.

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Ace-o-aces  May 24, 2018 • 7:40:19pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 24, 2018 • 7:41:18pm

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I put $50 in to stand with Colin!

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 24, 2018 • 7:42:24pm

re: #43 Ace-o-aces

Somebody did not do the research.

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William Lewis  May 24, 2018 • 7:49:22pm

Has anyone heard anything from Decatur Deb anytime recently?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 24, 2018 • 7:54:12pm

15 weeks between holidays is too long.

We need to make Jefferson’s birthday (4/13) a Federal holiday…

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LadyBehir  May 24, 2018 • 7:57:01pm

Well as long as we’re doing Thunderstruck covers, here’s my favorite. Wish there was an actual video of this.

Thunderstruck-Gordon Duncan

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gocart mozart  May 24, 2018 • 7:58:23pm

Al Pacino as Donald Trump’s mentor Roy Cohn

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Single-handed sailor  May 24, 2018 • 7:59:11pm
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dangerman  May 24, 2018 • 8:08:26pm

re: #28 The Ghost of a Flea

HOLY FUCKING SHIT WE ARE BEING GOVERNED BY A MIDDLE SCHOOL BULLY DESPERATELY TRYING TO MAKE FRIENDS BUT UNABLE TO CONCEDE ANY VULNERABILITY OR DOMINANCE BECAUSE DEEP INSIDE HE’S JUST NOT CAPABLE OF CARING ABOUT PEOPLE

yup

an immature sociopath

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gocart mozart  May 24, 2018 • 8:08:32pm
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JordanRules  May 24, 2018 • 8:08:40pm
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Unshaken Defiance  May 24, 2018 • 8:08:47pm

Suckers ya got played easy, fell for him like a bunch of rubes.

Border Patrol union calls Trump’s National Guard deployment ‘colossal waste’

A month after President Trump called for sending National Guard troops to the U.S.-Mexico border, the head of the national Border Patrol union called the deployment “a colossal waste of resources.”

“We have seen no benefit,” said Brandon Judd, president of the union that represents 15,000 agents, the National Border Patrol Council.

The criticism is a dramatic departure for the group, which endorsed Trump’s candidacy for president and has praised his border security efforts, including National Guard deployments.

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HappyWarrior  May 24, 2018 • 8:09:11pm

re: #43 Ace-o-aces

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Someone really never saw the movie, did they?

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JordanRules  May 24, 2018 • 8:10:32pm
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teleskiguy  May 24, 2018 • 8:11:28pm

re: #46 William Lewis

Pretty sure he’s on sabbatical. His last comment was semi-cryptic but I think there’s Lizards still in email contact? That’s my read.

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JordanRules  May 24, 2018 • 8:11:43pm
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gocart mozart  May 24, 2018 • 8:12:56pm
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JordanRules  May 24, 2018 • 8:13:25pm
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HappyWarrior  May 24, 2018 • 8:13:28pm

re: #58 JordanRules

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Yep. I say both him and Colin got a good argument for collusion.

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teleskiguy  May 24, 2018 • 8:14:58pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 24, 2018 • 8:16:18pm

And American religious fanatics question my morality as an atheist

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William Lewis  May 24, 2018 • 8:17:23pm

re: #57 teleskiguy

Pretty sure he’s on sabbatical. His last comment was semi-cryptic but I think there’s Lizards still in email contact? That’s my read.

Hope so. Miss him badly.

Dropkick Murphys - “Rose Tattoo” (Video)

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HappyWarrior  May 24, 2018 • 8:18:48pm

re: #63 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

And American religious fanatics question my morality as an atheist

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Evangelicals are as selective about morality as they claim liberal Christians are.

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Single-handed sailor  May 24, 2018 • 8:18:49pm

re: #63 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

They don’t have to be nice, they’re forgiven.

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HappyWarrior  May 24, 2018 • 8:20:13pm

re: #64 William Lewis

Hope so. Miss him badly.

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I do too. Liked talking Pittsburgh with him. He grew up near where my dads mother did.

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William Lewis  May 24, 2018 • 8:22:56pm

re: #63 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

And American religious fanatics question my morality as an atheist

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This Christian sure knows we have a duty to take in everyone.

Every. Fucking. One.

That’s straight from his words.

He said Nothing about abortion. Or gays. But he did say “for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.”

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HappyWarrior  May 24, 2018 • 8:24:19pm

re: #68 William Lewis

This Christian sure knows we have a duty to take in everyone.

Every. Fucking. One.

That’s straight from his words.

He said Nothing about abortion. Or gays. But he did say “for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.”

I’m not religious at all but I try to live life by that scripture.

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MsJ  May 24, 2018 • 8:29:58pm

So this happened.

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teleskiguy  May 24, 2018 • 8:31:00pm

Here’s some feel good shit!

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MsJ  May 24, 2018 • 8:32:12pm

re: #71 teleskiguy

That’s crazy!

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HappyWarrior  May 24, 2018 • 8:33:56pm

re: #71 teleskiguy

Here’s some feel good shit!

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Wow. Incredible. The seas hold many secrets.

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William Lewis  May 24, 2018 • 8:36:27pm

re: #71 teleskiguy

Here’s some feel good shit!

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We do a lot of shit we don’t understand. I’ve been diving deep in Youtube tonight and was going to bring this song here anyway, in a fit of environmentalism, it’s beautiful…

John Anderson Seminole Wind

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Targetpractice  May 24, 2018 • 8:44:26pm

re: #25 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Which is just absolutely ridiculous. If he’d allowed Kim to blow up the talks, he could have at least taken the moral high ground (what remained of it), claiming that Kim’s actions had precluded any talk of peaceful resolution and strengthened his hand in calling for sanctions and/or military action.

Instead, he rushed to be the guy who blew up the talks and now makes Kim look like the sane one, totally undermining his own argument that North Korea can’t be negotiated with when he’s the one who flipped the table over before storming out of the room like a jilted ex.

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teleskiguy  May 24, 2018 • 8:45:23pm

Today I went for a drive. I dropped off my dead iPhone 4S at a phone repair place the next town over (they’re replacing the battery, $45, it offsets me buying a new phone until Apple stops updating that phone), then went to the weed store, bought a couple of joints, and drove towards the east side of Independence Pass. It opened at noon today. On the uphill east side I watched an SUV with California plates pass an unmarked police truck. I knew it was police because I could see his assault rifle through his back window. That police truck pursued him, dude from California gunned it up a big narrow hill, thinking he was racing or something. Mind you, this is a narrow road with big BIG drop offs. The cop pursued him - probably a couple of miles - until he found a safe place to turn on his lights and pull him over. I said to myself “that guy is getting pulled over.” And he proceeded to go as fast as he could up this really big hill with a cop behind him! The scenery was stunning as always (though the snow is disappearing fast, and that’s not good), lunch in Aspen was delicious (I went to The Red Onion and had a turkey sandwich, with some bourbon, they have over 300 whiskeys to choose from. I had some stuff called Blade & Bow and it was delicious), but that was the highlight of my day.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 24, 2018 • 8:45:33pm

re: #54 Unshaken Defiance

Still don’t know how to articulate this, but—

this is part of the larger pattern of seeming being substituted for being.

The other day I observed that that there’s this disconnect about signifier/signified: the latter is dismissed even as the former is held to still have the value of the latter. This is a different version of the same issue: symbolic actions are being swapped in where actual long-terms plan that respond to examination and change as needed.

It’s a theater state, constructed by a culture that values “theater”—the evocation of shallow sentiment…schmaltz, bathos, ressentiment, smugness…and banal concepts—at the expense of complexity and depth.

It’s a scam, a bait and switch, but in past it’s worked long enough to really fuck people up, sink nations caught up in the feelings, and put lots of heads on pikes.

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austin_blue  May 24, 2018 • 8:45:50pm

re: #26 teleskiguy

“You ever watch golf on TV? It’s like watching flies fuck. I get more excited picking out socks.”

-George Carlin

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Citizen K  May 24, 2018 • 8:46:32pm

re: #63 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Meanwhile…

We may have been a nation of questionable morals and ethics for a long time, but we’ve backslid in the truly monstrous in such a remarkably short time.

All because America hates minorities and Dems more than it loves anything else. And we have a significant percentage of erstwhile ‘allies’ who have decided that the Dem party is still public enemy number 1 over Trump and must be burnt asunder for the proper purity to defeat Trumpism.

All fucking hope is lost.

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austin_blue  May 24, 2018 • 8:50:49pm

re: #28 The Ghost of a Flea

HOLY FUCKING SHIT WE ARE BEING GOVERNED BY A MIDDLE SCHOOL BULLY DESPERATELY TRYING TO MAKE FRIENDS BUT UNABLE TO CONCEDE ANY VULNERABILITY OR DOMINANCE BECAUSE DEEP INSIDE HE’S JUST NOT CAPABLE OF CARING ABOUT PEOPLE

I think the fundamental thing to understand Drumpf is that he maxed out in the 8th grade and has been stuck there emotionally and mentally ever since.

It informs his personality and his worldview, which is always and forever about me, me, me.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 24, 2018 • 8:51:42pm

re: #80 austin_blue

Wait…he made it to 8th Grade???

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jaunte  May 24, 2018 • 8:52:34pm

re: #81 Eclectic Cyborg

I wouldn’t be surprised to find out he paid another kid to take the classes for him.

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DodgerFan1988  May 24, 2018 • 8:52:41pm
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teleskiguy  May 24, 2018 • 8:56:20pm

re: #81 Eclectic Cyborg

Wait…he made it to 8th Grade???

HEY, LOSER, I GRADUATED FROM WHARTON, THE FINEST IVY LEAGUE BUSINESS SCHOOL THERE EVER WAS AND YOU’RE JUST A CANUCK IN MISSISSIPPI DOING WHATEVER. SAD!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 24, 2018 • 8:58:17pm

There are literally so many guns in America they’re bouncing around the interstates

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Citizen K  May 24, 2018 • 8:58:56pm

re: #83 DodgerFan1988

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But see, unless this can be proven without a shadow of a doubt that this is all because of policies either written and enforced by Republicans, or enabled to be worse by Republicans, we can’t attribute it to them, and to do so is the very height of hyper-partisanship and will and should only drive away sane American voters.

Now if it was something Dems did, then it must be considered to be true until it is distinctly proven to be false, and even then, we must consider it simply ‘unconfirmed’ until further evidence comes, because Dems are forever suspicious and must be treated as forever suspicious, lest their inherent illegitimacy taint the entire political process.

In other words, IOKIYAR, uber alles.

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austin_blue  May 24, 2018 • 9:01:24pm

re: #85 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

There are literally so many guns in America they’re bouncing around the interstates

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Glock 17? Dust it for prints and pool shoot it to to check the grooves.

Nobody throws away a $700 gun except for a felon or a scared as shit girlfriend.

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teleskiguy  May 24, 2018 • 9:04:27pm

re: #87 austin_blue

Glock 17? Dust it for prints and pool shoot it to to check the grooves.

Nobody throws away a $700 gun except for a scared as shit girlfriend.

I’ll just put this here. Very heavy reading.

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MsJ  May 24, 2018 • 9:07:56pm

re: #88 teleskiguy

I’ll just put this here. Very heavy reading.

That is sad, depressing and infuriating.

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MsJ  May 24, 2018 • 9:08:15pm

Short thread.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 24, 2018 • 9:08:26pm

re: #87 austin_blue

Glock 17? Dust it for prints and pool shoot it to to check the grooves.

Nobody throws away a $700 gun except for a scared as shit girlfriend.

Consensus seems to be a Springfield Armory XD

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 24, 2018 • 9:09:52pm

re: #87 austin_blue

Glock 17? Dust it for prints and pool shoot it to to check the grooves.

Nobody throws away a $700 gun except for a scared as shit girlfriend.

My guess, a “responsible gun owner” forgot their gun on the roof of their car

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William Lewis  May 24, 2018 • 9:10:12pm

re: #88 teleskiguy

< clicks > (sees title)(carefully reads first paragraph)

Nope. Can’t do it. Had too many friends with scum partners. Thank you for posting it but I just can’t.

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teleskiguy  May 24, 2018 • 9:10:49pm

re: #92 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

My guess, a “responsible gun owner” forgot their gun on the roof of their car

In this reality in the United States, that’s too fucking plausible.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 24, 2018 • 9:17:31pm

Re discussion downstairs: Today I was forced to take an online course on the EU new GDPR rules. I pleaded with my manager that since I am retiring at the end of June, I should be spared but company policy is company policy.

OMG — the course needs to be revised and expanded if they expect someone to learn anything about these rules; definitely not much fun. Data Controller vs Data Processor — and it went downhill from there…

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William Lewis  May 24, 2018 • 9:19:17pm

re: #22 ipsos

Many thanks to the anonymous benefactor who gifted me a subscription!

I’m so grateful for this little green oasis of sanity.

Pineapple pizza’s on m…. oh, crap, I’ve already screwed this up, haven’t I?

Just noticed this. I too am here on the grace of an anonymous benefactor, for two years running now. The joy this gives is hard to describe isn’t it?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 24, 2018 • 9:21:24pm

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Unshaken Defiance  May 24, 2018 • 9:21:50pm

re: #91 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Consensus seems to be a Springfield Armory XD

And I thought the commute was rough on the 405.

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Belafon  May 24, 2018 • 9:24:09pm

re: #63 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

And American religious fanatics question my morality as an atheist

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teleskiguy  May 24, 2018 • 9:25:03pm

re: #93 William Lewis

I’ve only read the series once but it has stuck with me since. It’s the most detailed description of fatal domestic violence out there. They interview a woman whose last memory before being shot in the head (“literally right between the eyes” was how she described it) was her husband saying to her “If I can’t have you, no one can.” She miraculously survived. Her husband killed himself.

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MsJ  May 24, 2018 • 9:27:44pm

re: #95 Hecuba’s daughter

Re discussion downstairs: Today I was forced to take an online course on the EU new GDPR rules. I pleaded with my manager that since I am retiring at the end of June, I should be spared but company policy is company policy.

OMG — the course needs to be revised and expanded if they expect someone to learn anything about these rules; definitely not much fun. Data Controller vs Data Processor — and it went downhill from there…

I took that that same course!

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Unshaken Defiance  May 24, 2018 • 9:28:25pm

I’m a fortunate guy, friends hook me up with stuff I can learn on. Some of that is straight out commercial demos of high end gear I could never own. Arri makes amazing cinema cameras that go for budgets that could make a pentagon check writer blush. But the look… “Open gate” is a sensor that takes in the whole area all at once on the fly, not a strip scanned from top to bottom. The slo mo looks incredibly undistorted and languid. “Signature Prime” lenses are the latest.

arri.com

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William Lewis  May 24, 2018 • 9:33:35pm

re: #100 teleskiguy

I’ve only read the series once but it has stuck with me since. It’s the most detailed description of fatal domestic violence out there. They interview a woman whose last memory before being shot in the head (“literally right between the eyes” was how she described it) was her husband saying to her “If I can’t have you, no one can.” She miraculously survived. Her husband killed himself.

Then you’ve proved you have more courage than I do. I don’t think I could read that if I had to for less than to save a life. In my little home town only one police officer has died in the line of duty - it was responding to a “domestic disturbance” at the women’s shelter that is now named for him.

Much more recently I had someone I thought I knew; someone I thought was a friend; who it turns out was a controlling SOB who found himself dying of disease. His wife had had enough of his crap and wanted out. He did the usual murder suicide shit. This was about two years ago. Every time I drive by where his store was I cuss the bastard out for not being the person I thought he was.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 24, 2018 • 9:33:45pm

re: #92 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

My guess, a “responsible gun owner” forgot their gun on the roof of their car

Has Mitt Romney been in the area recently?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 24, 2018 • 9:34:11pm

The additional comparisons

And, artistic improvements

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teleskiguy  May 24, 2018 • 9:37:18pm

re: #103 William Lewis

{{{wlewisiii}}}

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 24, 2018 • 9:38:52pm

re: #105 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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As I stated before McNaughton acts just like a Soviet propaganda artist!

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wheat-dogg  May 24, 2018 • 9:39:21pm

re: #105 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

McNaughton has mastered/imitated the kind of iconography that China used in the time of Mao, and the USSR used in the times of Lenin and Stalin.

See also, the kind of Christian “art” you can find at flea markets and thrift stores.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 24, 2018 • 9:48:01pm

re: #108 wheat-dogg

McNaughton has mastered/imitated the kind of iconography that China used in the time of Mao, and the USSR used in the times of Lenin and Stalin.

See also, the kind of Christian “art” you can find at flea markets and thrift stores.

More proof that Republicans have mutated into Soviet Communists.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 24, 2018 • 9:51:26pm

re: #108 wheat-dogg

McNaughton has mastered/imitated the kind of iconography that China used in the time of Mao, and the USSR used in the times of Lenin and Stalin.

See also, the kind of Christian “art” you can find at flea markets and thrift stores.

Authoritarians are terrified of ambiguity of meaning and subtlety. You can’t trust symbolism that isn’t part of a formal set. You can’t trust individual viewers to react how you want, if you don’t control the precise way they receive that art and “get” what it means.

Independent of the specifics of ideology, what ends up developing is a aesthetic that (1) crawls with pre-coded signifiers, (2) has a brutalist approach to commanding a specific reaction from the viewer, (3) is, within the cultural spectrum, trite and sentimental, (4) scared shitless of subjective value of art and thus incorporates a moral component to judgement of quality—decadence, degeneracy used to dismiss individualism and abstraction.

I mean, I’m just making that shit up on the fly, but I’d stand by it in general.

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Kragar  May 24, 2018 • 9:55:39pm
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austin_blue  May 24, 2018 • 9:55:50pm

re: #109 Joe Bacon 🌹

More proof that Republicans have mutated into Soviet Communists.

I rather think they have mutated into an entirely American fascist organization. It’s all there. The Nationalism, the Tribalism, the protection of the rich and privileged, the move to quell voices not agreeing with the State.

It’s all pretty blatant, isn’t it?

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goddamnedfrank  May 24, 2018 • 9:56:50pm
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Hecuba's daughter  May 24, 2018 • 9:57:39pm

re: #107 Joe Bacon 🌹

As I stated before McNaughton acts just like a Soviet propaganda artist!

Maybe McNaughton has been bought off by the Russians just like the NRA. Oh wait, probably he is just a garden variety racist.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 24, 2018 • 9:58:47pm

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austin_blue  May 24, 2018 • 10:01:04pm

He’s a fucking box turtle.

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 24, 2018 • 10:01:24pm

re: #112 austin_blue

Also blatant:

Multiple moves to allocate the resources of the state only to supporters (tax codes that money blue money to red states, rural people who get exemptions from work requirements for TANF, eta: block grants and vouchers, anything that taxes regressively) while penalizing opposition, while presenting is as a recompense rather than spoils.

I mean, what’s been barely beneath the welfare queen rhetoric since the beginning is that some people are never deserving, and some other people are deserving, but the distinction has no formal structure other than allegiance. Formalizing that distinction—allocating the subsidization as much as possible to allies—has suddenly gotten more bold.

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teleskiguy  May 24, 2018 • 10:06:48pm

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 24, 2018 • 10:08:13pm

re: #110 The Ghost of a Flea

I mean, one of the funniest fucking things about Objectivists is that the love some of the most stilted, florid, melodramatic writing outside of potboiler romances. It’s the literary equivalent of a McNaughton painting.

I mean, seriously, most of their art and lit is total shit. The best thing they latch onto—Modernist design—they cling to like limpets on a hull. It’s not fucking theirs, they just try and conceive of themselves as the kind of people who Modernism is for.

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teleskiguy  May 24, 2018 • 10:09:15pm

I heard Mitch McConnell speak on NPR today while driving on a back road. What a mealy mouthed weasel.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 24, 2018 • 10:16:29pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 24, 2018 • 10:23:26pm

re: #121 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Single-handed sailor  May 24, 2018 • 10:23:26pm

re: #121 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I saw this earlier. Surprisingly I first saw this on RT, none of the Canadian national networks had picked it up, only local news. Say what you will about RT, the FSB runs a great Breaking News Service.

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wheat-dogg  May 24, 2018 • 10:31:38pm

re: #110 The Ghost of a Flea

Authoritarians are terrified of ambiguity of meaning and subtlety. You can’t trust symbolism that isn’t part of a formal set. You can’t trust individual viewers to react how you want, if you don’t control the precise way they receive that art and “get” what it means.

Hence their opposition to any kind of literature that pushes against conservative social norms, especially against authority figures. Lately, that has included any recent young adult lit, including Harry Potter and The Hunger Games. Authoritarians prefer literature featuring “heroes” that follow the social order and that have predictable conclusions. IOW, very boring, formulaic fiction.

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austin_blue  May 24, 2018 • 10:32:12pm

Night all.

Short rant:

Fuck it all, just fuck it all to hell and gone.

These people are a bunch of circus geeks, biting the heads off of chickens, and they are running our Government. Idiotically.

That’s it. I’m out. Dog help us all.

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JordanRules  May 24, 2018 • 10:33:20pm

re: #123 Single-handed sailor

I saw this earlier. Surprisingly I first saw this on RT, none of the Canadian national networks had picked it up, only local news. Say what you will about RT, the FSB runs a great Breaking News Service.

Wow. I’m surprised by the Canadian media. CNN has had it for a while.

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wheat-dogg  May 24, 2018 • 10:36:02pm

re: #113 goddamnedfrank

McConnell may be a weasel, but his statement that he supports the Mueller investigation is still important. It suggests that the GOP leadership is not going to just roll over and play dead if Trump tries any shenanigans to torpedo the investigation. It’s an old-school politician’s signal to Trump that he would not have the support of the leadership if Trump interferes with Mueller. Trump, being the dolt that he is, will not understand the signal and will probably do what he wants anyway.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 24, 2018 • 10:36:40pm

“… Smith reportedly approached them holding a switchblade-style knife.
“Get the f—- out of here, you don’t deserve American food,” one of the victims claimed Smith said.

Smith then allegedly pulled out a stun gun, calling it his “zapper,” and reached inside the car in an attempt stun one of them, the outlet reported. …”

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austin_blue  May 24, 2018 • 10:38:36pm

re: #128 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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He seems nice.

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JordanRules  May 24, 2018 • 10:38:39pm

re: #127 wheat-dogg

McConnell may be a weasel, but his statement that he supports the Mueller investigation is still important. It suggests that the GOP leadership is not going to just roll over and play dead if Trump tries any shenanigans to torpedo the investigation. It’s an old-school politician’s signal to Trump that he would not have the support of the leadership if Trump interferes with Mueller. Trump, being the dolt that he is, will not understand the signal and will probably do what he wants anyway.

Or Mitch is just bullshitting. All they have done is roll over and play dead.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 24, 2018 • 10:39:25pm

re: #129 austin_blue

He seems nice.

Florida Man in a people person

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Single-handed sailor  May 24, 2018 • 10:43:51pm
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wheat-dogg  May 24, 2018 • 10:45:37pm

re: #130 JordanRules

Or Mitch is just bullshitting. All they have done is roll over and play dead.

Or that. Mitch is so slippery that it’s impossible to guess his true intentions.

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Skip Intro  May 24, 2018 • 10:47:21pm

You never know when you might need this

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Targetpractice  May 24, 2018 • 10:47:32pm

re: #127 wheat-dogg

McConnell may be a weasel, but his statement that he supports the Mueller investigation is still important. It suggests that the GOP leadership is not going to just roll over and play dead if Trump tries any shenanigans to torpedo the investigation. It’s an old-school politician’s signal to Trump that he would not have the support of the leadership if Trump interferes with Mueller. Trump, being the dolt that he is, will not understand the signal and will probably do what he wants anyway.

Unless Mitch pledges to allow the vote on protecting Mueller come to a vote, rather than continuing to give excuses about how he can’t bring it to a vote because Donny won’t sign it, then nothing he says about his “supporting” Mueller should be taken without a massive grain of salt.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 24, 2018 • 10:47:36pm

re: #121 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Both perps “light skinned” and it’s an Indian restaurant. Hmmm.

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Skip Intro  May 24, 2018 • 10:48:33pm

re: #131 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Florida Man is metasticizing across the country.

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Targetpractice  May 24, 2018 • 10:52:38pm

re: #136 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Both perps “light skinned” and it’s an Indian restaurant. Hmmm.

More of the “Foreigners Out!” crowd’s antics?

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 24, 2018 • 10:54:40pm

re: #138 Targetpractice

More of the “Foreigners Out!” crowd’s antics?

It’s consistent with that, but anything is possible at this point.

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Hecuba's daughter  May 24, 2018 • 10:59:37pm

re: #124 wheat-dogg

Hence their opposition to any kind of literature that pushes against conservative social norms, especially against authority figures. Lately, that has included any recent young adult lit, including Harry Potter and The Hunger Games. Authoritarians prefer literature featuring “heroes” that follow the social order and that have predictable conclusions. IOW, very boring, formulaic fiction.

Cinema may be different from literature, but a girl friend and I have watched several Iranian films in recent years and they have all been superb portraits of real people, real situations, and nothing that would be considered propaganda. So not quite a full authoritarian society.

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meteor  May 24, 2018 • 11:03:35pm

re: #63 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Most Christians are not evangelicals.

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teleskiguy  May 24, 2018 • 11:14:26pm

!

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Kragar  May 24, 2018 • 11:16:33pm

re: #141 meteor

Most Christians are not evangelicals.

Most Evangelicals aren’t Christians.

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Ace-o-aces  May 24, 2018 • 11:22:24pm
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Dave In Austin  May 24, 2018 • 11:28:33pm

re: #128 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I’ll see your bigot and raise you a Dana…….

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JordanRules  May 24, 2018 • 11:31:38pm

Maybe they are doing it wrong and just shooting their Netflix playing devices.

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JordanRules  May 24, 2018 • 11:33:38pm
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wheat-dogg  May 24, 2018 • 11:33:42pm

re: #140 Hecuba’s daughter

Cinema may be different from literature, but a girl friend and I have watched several Iranian films in recent years and they have all been superb portraits of real people, real situations, and nothing that would be considered propaganda. So not quite a full authoritarian society.

Iran is in a grey area. The government now seems more concerned with political dissent than social dissent, and many Iranian movies deal with serious social issues rather unapologetically.

Do you have any recommendations? I’ve only seen one or two Iranian films, and now I can’t seem to remember which ones. Wikipedia is not jogging my memory.

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Ace-o-aces  May 24, 2018 • 11:35:51pm

re: #128 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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JordanRules  May 24, 2018 • 11:37:03pm
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wheat-dogg  May 24, 2018 • 11:38:31pm

re: #148 wheat-dogg

I remembered one. Offside.
imdb.com

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Targetpractice  May 24, 2018 • 11:40:30pm
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wheat-dogg  May 24, 2018 • 11:40:51pm

re: #150 JordanRules

My inbox is packed with updated privacy policy messages. Some have deadlines, and I’m reasonably sure I won’t respond to all of them by those deadlines.

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JordanRules  May 24, 2018 • 11:48:35pm

re: #153 wheat-dogg

My inbox is packed with updated privacy policy messages. Some have deadlines, and I’m reasonably sure I won’t respond to all of them by those deadlines.

Oh no! Some have deadlines? I haven’t looked at any of the ones in my email yet. Eek!

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Kragar  May 24, 2018 • 11:50:30pm

Joe Arpaio boasts on his campaign website that during his tenure as “chief law enforcement officer” for Maricopa County, Arizona, he “continued to reduce crime with hard-hitting enforcement methods.” But since his failed November 2016 sheriff re-election campaign, the Republican senate hopeful may have repeatedly violated the Federal Trade Commission Act and Facebook’s policy by accepting tens of thousands of dollars to share stories from a right-wing click-bait site without disclosing that they were paid ads.

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JordanRules  May 24, 2018 • 11:54:19pm
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JordanRules  May 25, 2018 • 12:13:27am
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JordanRules  May 25, 2018 • 12:33:53am
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Single-handed sailor  May 25, 2018 • 12:37:10am
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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2018 • 1:21:43am

re: #140 Hecuba’s daughter

Check out the films of Nuri Bilge Ceylan, a Turkish film maker and writer/director.

Movies like Once Upon a Time in Anatolia and Winter’s Sleep are slow-paced, but brilliant, meditations. He’s been strongly influenced by Anton Chekov; he has a new film out, The Wild Pear Tree.

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wheat-dogg  May 25, 2018 • 1:24:57am

re: #161 Dr Lizardo

Thanks!

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2018 • 1:34:26am

re: #162 wheat-dogg

Thanks!

Once Upon a Time in Anatolia is my personal favorite of his. It’s nothing less than a modern masterpiece.

IIRC, it’s on the list of “The 21st Century’s 100 Greatest Films”, as chosen by international film critics, towards the middle.

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2018 • 2:04:06am

Well, at least some bit of good news (maybe):

Julian Assange’s nearly six-year refuge at the Ecuadorian embassy in London is in danger, opening the WikiLeaks founder to arrest by British authorities and potential extradition to the US, multiple sources with knowledge tell CNN.

While Assange has in the past claimed his position in the embassy was under threat, sources say his current situation is “unusually bad” and that he could leave the embassy “any day now,” either because he will be forced out or made to feel so restricted that he might choose to leave on his own. His position there is “in jeopardy,” one source familiar with the matter said.
Assange’s exit from the embassy could open a new phase for US investigators eager to find out what he knows.

Looks like the Ecuadorians have had their fill of his shit.

edition.cnn.com

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Patricia Kayden  May 25, 2018 • 2:17:46am

re: #63 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Wow. I actually find that shocking. Not the atheist part but that White Evangelicals are so cold towards migrants. Jesus was a migrant (along with his parents) in Egypt.

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freetoken  May 25, 2018 • 2:20:19am

re: #165 Patricia Kayden

Jesus was a migrant (along with his parents) in Egypt.

As the story goes, though the Synoptic Gospels conflict with each other in this regards.

Still, I get your point. A religion whose teachings explicitly includes the acceptance of foreigners and which demands kindness towards others… is now about separating families and throwing people in jail without due process.

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freetoken  May 25, 2018 • 2:45:12am
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wheat-dogg  May 25, 2018 • 3:35:35am

For you fans of The Expanse, Wikipedia says Amazon is talking with the production company. Alcorn, to broadcast season 4.

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freetoken  May 25, 2018 • 4:00:43am
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jeffreyw  May 25, 2018 • 4:44:58am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Archangelus  May 25, 2018 • 4:52:19am

re: #150 JordanRules

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These new privacy updates are starting to get out of hand…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 25, 2018 • 5:10:13am

jeebus…the moron is off and running:

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 5:11:26am

re: #172 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus…the moron is off and running:

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Just shut the fuck up Donnie.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 25, 2018 • 5:12:24am

kind of amazing that all four tweets have the same timestamp.

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wheat-dogg  May 25, 2018 • 5:13:25am

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

kind of amazing that all four tweets have the same timestamp.

I suspect Donnie has had some help in writing and tweeting them.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 5:14:29am

re: #174 Backwoods_Sleuth

kind of amazing that all four tweets have the same timestamp.

Probably had it ready to be copied and paste. He’s such a shitty President and person. All he does is either jack himself off for being great or complain.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 5:15:39am

There’s nothing wrong with saying MS-13 are individuals. Reducing them to animals is a primitive and juvenile way of looking at crime.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 25, 2018 • 5:17:53am

re: #175 wheat-dogg

I suspect Donnie has had some help in writing and tweeting them.

re: #176 HappyWarrior

Probably had it ready to be copied and paste. He’s such a shitty President and person. All he does is either jack himself off for being great or complain.

Somebody (not the yam) knows how to schedule pre-written tweets.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 25, 2018 • 5:18:59am

good grief, he’s stupid

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wheat-dogg  May 25, 2018 • 5:19:07am

re: #178 Backwoods_Sleuth

Somebody (not the yam) knows how to schedule pre-written tweets.

He’s got help, for sure. The longer tweets are more cogent than his usual BS.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 25, 2018 • 5:25:43am

O_o

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wheat-dogg  May 25, 2018 • 5:29:05am

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s like they haven’t noticed the percentage of Hispanic voters within the USA.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 25, 2018 • 5:29:28am

The North Korean government on Friday said it is still “willing to give the U.S. time and opportunities” to reconsider talks “at any time, at any format.” The statement was issued in response to Trump’s abrupt cancellation of the June summit between the two countries in the U.S. bid to get North Korea to abandon its nuclear weapon.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 5:29:35am

re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth

O_o

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He’s trying to encourage pogroms against Hispanics. And Miller and Kushner are both a couple of sick assholes.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 5:30:06am

re: #182 wheat-dogg

It’s like they haven’t noticed the percentage of Hispanic voters within the USA.

I’d love it if Trump lost to a Hispanic candidate and or lost because of Hispanic voters.

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wheat-dogg  May 25, 2018 • 5:31:51am

re: #185 HappyWarrior

I’d love it if Trump lost to a Hispanic candidate and or lost because of Hispanic voters.

Or if there were way more Hispanic Congress-critters.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 5:37:52am

re: #186 wheat-dogg

Or if there were way more Hispanic Congress-critters.

For sure. Hispanics by far have along with Muslims been the group he’s been most hostile to. And you know how this issue impacts me personally.

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Jebediah, RBG  May 25, 2018 • 5:41:47am

re: #104 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Has Mitt Romney been in the area recently?

Now, now, let’s be fair. That dog was merely a living being; had it been a valuable asset like a gun he would have taken much more care with it.

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wheat-dogg  May 25, 2018 • 5:43:33am

re: #187 HappyWarrior

As I have said before, I never liked the previous Republican presidents, but Trump I hate with the heat of a thousand suns. And I have little patience or sympathy for the people who voted for him. Together, they have set the course of American progress back at least 150 years.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 5:45:48am

re: #189 wheat-dogg

As I have said before, I never liked the previous Republican presidents, but Trump I hate with the heat of a thousand suns. And I have little patience or sympathy for the people who voted for him. Together, they have set the course of American progress back at least 150 years.

Ditto that. I have no patience or sympathy for them either. They saw the same asshole we did and many in fact embraced him.

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Sir John Barron  May 25, 2018 • 5:46:31am

re: #179 Backwoods_Sleuth

Only time (and talent) will tell!

“talent”?

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 5:48:45am

I hope Kushner and Miller know the same kind of crap of singling out Jews was done.

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wheat-dogg  May 25, 2018 • 5:50:59am

I have to admire an engineer guy who says art has inspired him.

Plus, gunz + science!

The Smarter Every Day guy tries to replicate the famous Edgerton photo of a bullet cutting playing card in half.

Bullet Splitting Playing Card in SLOW MOTION (The Edgerton Shot) - Smarter Every Day 194

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Sir John Barron  May 25, 2018 • 5:51:44am

re: #172 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Everyone knows there was a Spy, and in fact the people who were involved in the Spying are admitting that there was a Spy…Widespread Spying involving multiple people.” Mollie Hemingway, The Federalist Senior Editor But the corrupt Mainstream Media hates this monster story!

— Donald J. Trump

This “monster” story. Good gawd.

So, I guess Mollie thinks collusion was OK but ‘spying’, or investigating, was not.

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wheat-dogg  May 25, 2018 • 5:51:50am

re: #192 HappyWarrior

I hope Kushner and Miller know the same kind of crap of singling out Jews was done.

Is Miller Jewish? I know Kushner allegedly is.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 5:53:11am

re: #195 wheat-dogg

Is Miller Jewish? I know Kushner allegedly is.

Yes he is. His mother’s family is from the same town in PA as my mom’s folks and they can’t stand him precisely because he’s a nativist douche.

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Sir John Barron  May 25, 2018 • 5:53:22am

re: #172 Backwoods_Sleuth

“Everyone knows there was a Spy, and in fact the people who were involved in the Spying are admitting that there was a Spy…Widespread Spying involving multiple people.” Mollie Hemingway, The Federalist Senior Editor But the corrupt Mainstream Media hates this monster story!

— Donald J. Trump

Who are the alleged ‘spies’? Who did they work for? Are they feds who talked to or heard information from his campaign’s “coffee boys”?

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Dave In Austin  May 25, 2018 • 5:55:01am
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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 5:55:06am

I almost want a liberal version of Trump just for karma for the right.

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Dave In Austin  May 25, 2018 • 5:56:21am

re: #199 HappyWarrior

I almost want a liberal version of Trump just for karma for the right.

Nina Turner……..

{{{{{Runs}}}}}}}

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Sir John Barron  May 25, 2018 • 5:58:22am

re: #198 Dave In Austin

Was the “informant” an actual campaign worker, paid by the campaign? Is there a name being associated with this so-called informant?

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wheat-dogg  May 25, 2018 • 6:00:06am

re: #196 HappyWarrior

Yes he is. His mother’s family is from the same town in PA as my mom’s folks and they can’t stand him precisely because he’s a nativist douche.

This makes me sad, and I’m not even Jewish.

{From Long Island, though.}

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Sir John Barron  May 25, 2018 • 6:01:50am

re: #198 Dave In Austin

Why would “spying” on a campaign be illegal?

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 6:02:56am

re: #202 wheat-dogg

This makes me sad, and I’m not even Jewish.

{From Long Island, though.}

I’m not either but it always does sadden me when people who should know better don’t. From what I remember about Miller, he actually comes from a fairly liberal family.

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lawhawk  May 25, 2018 • 6:03:38am

Greets and saluts from the resistance in the NYC metro area.

Weinstein surrendered to cops this morning and was charged on multiple counts. Good.

It’s something that should have happened years ago but for the fact that Weinstein’s fixers made sure it never got to this point.

Weinstein is hardly alone in employing fixers to keep criminal acts from being investigated or prosecuted.

Trump also had fixers protect him and his family. Manhattan prosecutors - including former DA Morgenthau and current DA Cy Vance have much to answer for on that too.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 6:03:58am

I love seeing Mr. I begged Wikileaks to hack HRC crying about impropriety. He’s just mad because he thinks he was above being investigated.

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Sir John Barron  May 25, 2018 • 6:05:59am

re: #206 HappyWarrior

I love seeing Mr. I begged Wikileaks to hack HRC crying about impropriety. He’s just mad because he thinks he was above being investigated.

Seriously. He begged Russia to do so as well.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 6:08:11am

re: #207 Sir John Barron

Seriously. He begged Russia to do so as well.

Someone needs to call him out on it to his face.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 6:09:45am

re: #200 Dave In Austin

Nina Turner……..

{{{{{Runs}}}}}}}

Ha! But seriously I’d love to see the look on those hypocritical right wing pieces of shit if a Democratic President called McConnell “Yertle” or Ryan “Granny Starver.”

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lawhawk  May 25, 2018 • 6:11:07am

re: #198 Dave In Austin

Trump doesn’t get that law enforcement can investigate criminal acts based on probable cause, including using confidential sources/informants. This is all standard operating procedure.

What’s unusual is that Trump surrounded himself with undeclared foreign agents, solicited criminal acts from foreign powers to help him win an election, and met with foreign nations to get that information and lied about each and every step of that process.

Now? He’s projecting his criminality on to not only Clinton and Obama, but the investigators and prosecutors.

Note too: he’s not claiming innocence. He’s protesting that he’s being caught doing the very things alleged.

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Sir John Barron  May 25, 2018 • 6:11:18am

re: #209 HappyWarrior

Ha! But seriously I’d love to see the look on those hypocritical right wing pieces of shit if a Democratic President called McConnell “Yertle” or Ryan “Granny Starver.”

Couldn’t keep the fainting couches in stock.

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Sir John Barron  May 25, 2018 • 6:13:33am

re: #210 lawhawk

Trump doesn’t get that law enforcement can investigate criminal acts based on probable cause, including using confidential sources/informants. This is all standard operating procedure.

What’s unusual is that Trump surrounded himself with undeclared foreign agents, solicited criminal acts from foreign powers to help him win an election, and met with foreign nations to get that information and lied about each and every step of that process.

Now? He’s projecting his criminality on to not only Clinton and Obama, but the investigators and prosecutors.

Note too: he’s not claiming innocence. He’s protesting that he’s being caught doing the very things alleged.

Well said

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 6:17:12am

re: #211 Sir John Barron

Couldn’t keep the fainting couches in stock.

They’re such hypocrites. Whining about snowflakes while they lose their shit over what’s on a plastic coffee cup or NRA members not getting special treatment anymore. But somehow wanting to be called by the pronoun you wish to go by or thinking police should not shoot unarmed people makes you a snowflake.

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MsJ  May 25, 2018 • 6:22:47am

re: #150 JordanRules

That is hysterical! Having lived GDPR for a couple of months now (with my coworkers spending their lives doing it for months), I really appreciated that humor.

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MsJ  May 25, 2018 • 6:24:04am

re: #153 wheat-dogg

My inbox is packed with updated privacy policy messages. Some have deadlines, and I’m reasonably sure I won’t respond to all of them by those deadlines.

I keep getting them from companies i have never gotten any correspondence from or gone to their website.

Phishing for sure.

Nope to all. So far, i only accepted one and that was from one of my vendors.

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MsJ  May 25, 2018 • 6:26:15am

re: #168 wheat-dogg

For you fans of The Expanse, Wikipedia says Amazon is talking with the production company. Alcorn, to broadcast season 4.

I wish someone would have picked up Dark Matter. :-(

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MsJ  May 25, 2018 • 6:30:01am

re: #199 HappyWarrior

I almost want a liberal version of Trump just for karma for the right.

They’d be strung up on a lamp post within three days.

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I cannot.  May 25, 2018 • 6:30:11am

re: #214 MsJ

I almost choked on my drink with that one.

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dangerman  May 25, 2018 • 6:30:59am

do I understand correctly that the Oklahoma “good Samaritan ” confronted the shooter after he was finished shooting and had already left the restaurant?

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MsJ  May 25, 2018 • 6:31:09am

re: #207 Sir John Barron

Seriously. He begged Russia to do so as well.

Publicly. On national television. More than once.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 6:33:15am

re: #217 MsJ

They’d be strung up on a lamp post within three days.

That’s why I said almost.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 25, 2018 • 6:33:20am

re: #213 HappyWarrior

Look these guys (Trump types) all run on the idea of two sets of laws.
One forgiving and gentle and above all flexible, IF you are white, and wealthy and republican. A judgmental, harsh with minimum protections and long minimum sentences for the rest of us.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 6:34:26am

re: #222 Unshaken Defiance

Look these guys (Trump types) all run on the idea of two sets of laws.
one forgiving and gentle and above all flexible, IF you are white, and wealthy and republican. A judgmental, harsh with minimum protections and long minimum sentences for the rest of us.

Yep. You got it. Joe Arpaio was a victim of injustice but Obama pardoning small time drug offenders was terrible.

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wheat-dogg  May 25, 2018 • 6:34:47am

re: #215 MsJ

Most of the ones I get just use your email as the ID. If you get any that require logging in with username and password, avoid them quick! The regulation is just about receiving email updates from the sender. Nothing more. If you want to continue receiving email messages from them, agree to the updates. Otherwise, the email updates will cease. I’m agreeing to those that I feel are necessary.

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MsJ  May 25, 2018 • 6:35:53am

Thread.

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Archangelus  May 25, 2018 • 6:39:27am

Crap.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 6:40:29am

re: #226 Archangelus

Crap.

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Oh come the fuck on.

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wheat-dogg  May 25, 2018 • 6:42:05am

re: #226 Archangelus

Noblesville is just north of Indy.

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Unshaken Defiance  May 25, 2018 • 6:42:47am

re: #226 Archangelus

Working as a teacher or being a student is getting more dangerous than the midnight shift at the 24hr convenience store or gas station.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 6:44:54am

re: #228 wheat-dogg

Noblesville is just north of Indy.

Somehow I don’t think we’ll be hearing about INDIANAPOLIS even though Indy in fact has a higher gun death rate than Chicago does.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 6:45:20am

re: #229 Unshaken Defiance

Working as a teacher or being a student is getting more dangerous than the midnight shift at the 24hr convenience store or gas station.

It makes me worried man. My niece starts Kindergarten next fall.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 25, 2018 • 6:47:11am
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lawhawk  May 25, 2018 • 6:47:41am
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MsJ  May 25, 2018 • 6:50:08am
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Sir John Barron  May 25, 2018 • 6:50:46am

re: #232 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Beyonce and Taylor Swift have ties to the illuminati.

Really? Maybe I should sign up.

///

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CongoJack  May 25, 2018 • 6:51:25am

re: #234 MsJ

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Sweet Jeebus foreign policy and international relations is not a freaking reality TV show. This idiot is gonna get us all killed.

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Sir John Barron  May 25, 2018 • 6:51:31am

re: #234 MsJ

Or else NK has to pay for all the commemorative coins.

/

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I cannot.  May 25, 2018 • 6:53:11am

re: #236 CongoJack

*goes to the store and starts popping drinks open to steal the bottle caps*

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wheat-dogg  May 25, 2018 • 6:57:50am

re: #235 Sir John Barron

Really? Maybe I should sign up.

///

Bey and Taylor are like polar opposites, musically speaking. Those Illuminati have eclectic tastes.

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plansbandc  May 25, 2018 • 6:58:39am

re: #190 HappyWarrior

Around forty percent of voters not only embraced but also celebrated someone who openly mocked a disabled person. Whenever I’m in a public place, I look around at the faces and wonder which ones think that’s acceptable laudable behavior.

It makes me incredibly sad there are that many people in this country who are so thoroughly morally bankrupt.

And people urge us to reach out to them. Why?

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CongoJack  May 25, 2018 • 7:00:45am

re: #238 I cannot.

*goes to the store and starts popping drinks open to steal the bottle caps*

You could just use the F-ray device

YouTube

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 7:01:38am

re: #233 lawhawk

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No, in fact you can argue that it’s vigilantism.

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JordanRules  May 25, 2018 • 7:02:48am
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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 7:04:03am

re: #240 plansbandc

Around forty percent of voters not only embraced but also celebrated someone who openly mocked a disabled person. Whenever I’m in a public place, I look around at the faces and wonder which ones think that’s acceptable laudable behavior.

It makes me incredibly sad there are that many people in this country who are so thoroughly morally bankrupt.

And people urge us to reach out to them. Why?

What disturbs me as a white guy is knowing a lot of them look like me and if they see me probably think I think like them. I don’t really wear my liberalism on my clothing so to speak but I do try to in my professional capacity dealing with PoC and or immigrants let them know that I’m a warm and compassionate human being. We had an immigration case that we worked on. The other clerk helping me out was an immigrant and the client of course was too. I try to tell them that I want the same American dream for their families that mine was able to receive.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 25, 2018 • 7:05:42am
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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 7:07:43am

re: #245 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Mike, there’s photos of Trump with Harvey Weinstein too. You really don’t want to play this stupid game.

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I cannot.  May 25, 2018 • 7:09:02am

re: #241 CongoJack

No, in the Wasteland we will use bottle caps for currency, whether they were winners, or had “points” redeemable pre-war won’t matter.

(Fallout game reference)

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 25, 2018 • 7:09:27am

CHUPACABRA ! ! !

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Sir John Barron  May 25, 2018 • 7:09:56am

re: #246 HappyWarrior

Mike, there’s photos of Trump with Harvey Weinstein too. You really don’t want to play this stupid game.

Well, the one thing we know about drUmpf is that he always surrounds himself with the very best people.

//

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 7:10:26am

I love the people who cry about right wing views being “censored” championing Trump bullying the NFL into appeasing him.

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I cannot.  May 25, 2018 • 7:10:44am

re: #248 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

I <3 cryptids.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 25, 2018 • 7:14:32am

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Mike Lamb  May 25, 2018 • 7:15:13am

re: #245 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Which clearly means that Hillary raped and assaulted those women.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 7:16:33am

re: #253 Mike Lamb

Which clearly means that Hillary raped and assaulted those women.

Guilt by association only matters if it’s HRC, duh. Did you know that both Hillary and Harvey Weinstein’s first names begin with H! This can’t be a coincidence.

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ObserverArt  May 25, 2018 • 7:16:40am

re: #219 dangerman

do I understand correctly that the Oklahoma “good Samaritan ” confronted the shooter after he was finished shooting and had already left the restaurant?

Morning!

That was my understanding. I mentioned last night this is going to be interesting to follow as far as police and prosecutors and in light of the current gun politics.

I guess you have some questions too. Is it a defensive shooting or is it vigilante justice?

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 7:18:12am

re: #255 ObserverArt

Morning!

That was my understanding. I mentioned last night this is going to be interesting to follow as far as police and prosecutors and in light of the current gun politics.

I guess you have some questions too. Is it a defensive shooting or is it vigilante justice?

I had the same thoughts. Is this a defensive shooting or is it vigilantism. And you know of course so much as saying that gets them to claim YOU LOVE CRIMINALS.

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sagehen  May 25, 2018 • 7:23:08am

re: #233 lawhawk

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Oklahoma City Police said the gunman, who walked into Louie’s Grill & Bar on the east side of Lake Hefner in Oklahoma City around 6:30 p.m. Thursday, wounded at least four people including, KOCO 5 reports, mother Natalie Giles and her 12-year-old daughter, Syniah Giles.

The shooter was the only person who died in the incident. His identity was not confirmed as of Friday morning and his motive was unknown. Police said the incident is under investigation.

I’m going to go out on a limb here and hypothesize that the shooter was Natalie’s ex-husband or ex-boyfriend. Syniah’s father.

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lawhawk  May 25, 2018 • 7:25:32am

re: #257 sagehen

Domestic violence situation? Yeah, odds are that’s probably what precipitated things.

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2018 • 7:26:25am

re: #257 sagehen

You’re probably right, unfortunately. Domestic violence situation.

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sagehen  May 25, 2018 • 7:28:20am

re: #246 HappyWarrior

Mike, there’s photos of Trump with Harvey Weinstein too. You really don’t want to play this stupid game.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 7:35:19am

re: #260 sagehen

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That just proves he’s not a racist. Checkmate libtard. //

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Hecuba's daughter  May 25, 2018 • 7:36:33am

re: #151 wheat-dogg

I remembered one. Offside.
imdb.com

That was one I was going to mention— and Separation. I am so bad remembering names but the imdb site also lists top Iranian films such as imdb.com

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 7:37:34am

re: #262 Hecuba’s daughter

That was one I was going to mention— and Separation. I am so bad remembering names but the imdb site also lists top Iranian films such as imdb.com

I remember watching Persepolis. That was a good one from an Iranian perspective.

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wheat-dogg  May 25, 2018 • 7:46:48am

re: #262 Hecuba’s daughter

That was one I was going to mention— and Separation. I am so bad remembering names but the imdb site also lists top Iranian films such as imdb.com

re: #263 HappyWarrior

I remember watching Persepolis. That was a good one from an Iranian perspective.

Thanks for the tips.

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JordanRules  May 25, 2018 • 7:47:58am
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JordanRules  May 25, 2018 • 7:48:21am
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JordanRules  May 25, 2018 • 7:48:49am
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JordanRules  May 25, 2018 • 7:49:35am

Cash bail needs to go.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 25, 2018 • 7:50:42am

re: #267 JordanRules

Maybe they can’t find anyone else who wants the job?

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Varek Raith  May 25, 2018 • 7:51:04am
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freetoken  May 25, 2018 • 7:54:12am

re: #270 Varek Raith

Way too young to die.

But young people get cancer too.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 25, 2018 • 7:56:25am

Affected models include the 2014-2019 Ram 1500 pickup, as well as the 2014-2018 Ram 2500, 3500, 4500 and 5500 pickups and chassis cab trucks. Also covered are the 2015-2017 Chrysler 200, the 2014-2018 Chrysler 300, the 2017 and 2018 Chrysler Pacifica minivan. Dodge vehicles included are the 2015 to 2018 Challenger, and the 2014 to 2018 Charger, Journey and Durango, while affected Jeeps include the 2014 through 2018 Cherokee and Grand Cherokee and the 2018 Wrangler.

Fiat Chrysler will begin notifying customers as early as next week. The company is urging customers to follow the recall instructions and get the repairs done as soon as possible.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 25, 2018 • 7:56:44am

re: #271 freetoken

Same age as my brother. Three years younger than me.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 25, 2018 • 8:01:23am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 25, 2018 • 8:02:46am

Context: Trump is addressing the Naval Academy graduation

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 8:03:08am

littlegreenfootballs.com
Guys, I don’t do pages that often but I hope you read my Memorial Day thoughts.

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steve_davis  May 25, 2018 • 8:03:20am

re: #68 William Lewis

“He said Nothing about abortion. Or gays.”

Love the lord your god with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength. Love your neighbor as yourself. There are no commands greater than these.

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Varek Raith  May 25, 2018 • 8:03:29am

re: #274 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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What a moron moran.

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JordanRules  May 25, 2018 • 8:04:12am
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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 8:04:33am

re: #275 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Context: Trump is addressing the Naval Academy graduation

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That’s not a commencement speech. That’s a campaign rally. Basically, his usual, I’m great, everyone else sucked before me.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 8:05:03am

re: #279 JordanRules

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WTF. There’s no reason for that. It should be alphabetically.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 25, 2018 • 8:05:19am

re: #279 JordanRules

Why not just list candidates alphabetically and be done with it?

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 25, 2018 • 8:05:47am

re: #281 HappyWarrior

16 seconds.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 8:06:29am

re: #283 Eclectic Cyborg

16 seconds.

GTMA buddy.

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Varek Raith  May 25, 2018 • 8:06:56am

re: #279 JordanRules

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For real?
I mean…
e_e

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SteelPH  May 25, 2018 • 8:07:35am

re: #280 HappyWarrior

That’s not a commencement speech. That’s a campaign rally. Basically, his usual, I’m great, everyone else sucked before me.

Every speech is a campaign rally for this fuckwaffle.

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BlueSpotinAL  May 25, 2018 • 8:08:14am

Trump Says North Korea Summit Might Be Back On Again Because “Everybody Plays Games”

President Bullshit, you should try the quiet game.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  May 25, 2018 • 8:08:32am

re: #274 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The new covfefe.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 8:08:41am

re: #286 SteelPH

Every speech is a campaign rally for this fuckwaffle.

or a big complaining fest where he demonstrates he never paid attention in civics class i.e. complaining about judges last night.

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gwangung  May 25, 2018 • 8:09:51am

re: #282 Eclectic Cyborg

Why not just list candidates alphabetically and be done with it?

Better yet, randomized order with each ballot. We can do this, you know….

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 25, 2018 • 8:10:52am
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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 8:11:01am

re: #290 gwangung

Better yet, randomized order with each ballot. We can do this, you know….

That solution also works,

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MsJ  May 25, 2018 • 8:11:48am

re: #274 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

The new covfefe.

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Varek Raith  May 25, 2018 • 8:11:54am

flsenate.gov

(3)(a) The names of the candidates of the party that received the highest number of votes for Governor in the last election in which a Governor was elected shall be placed first for each office on the general election ballot, together with an appropriate abbreviation of the party name; the names of the candidates of the party that received the second highest vote for Governor shall be placed second for each office, together with an appropriate abbreviation of the party name.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 8:12:47am

re: #294 Varek Raith

flsenate.gov

Stupid logic IMO.

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Jay C  May 25, 2018 • 8:13:18am

re: #282 Eclectic Cyborg

Why not just list candidates alphabetically and be done with it?

Because Republicans.
Because Florida.
Because they think they can (and probably will) get away with it.

Anyway, I’m sure that even if they did go to an alphabetical system, the GOP would make sure their slate of candidates were Abe Aaronson, Amy Abbott, Andres Aguilar, Anthony Adams, Alice Acton, etc…..

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 25, 2018 • 8:13:24am
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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2018 • 8:13:24am

re: #294 Varek Raith

And when a Democrat wins the FL Governor’s office, you just watch the GOP repeal that law in less than 24 hours.

Guaranteed.

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Varek Raith  May 25, 2018 • 8:13:39am

re: #295 HappyWarrior

Stupid logic IMO.

Yep.

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William Lewis  May 25, 2018 • 8:14:23am

re: #279 JordanRules

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Wisconsin law does the same kind of thing - whatever party got the most votes in the preceding election gets the first spot on the ballot. It really doesn’t seem to be a problem here.

ETA: That law has been in place since at least 1990.

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MsJ  May 25, 2018 • 8:14:27am

re: #282 Eclectic Cyborg

Why not just list candidates alphabetically and be done with it?

Because republicans cannot win without cheating. They have no ideas, morals or values other than power…getting and keeping.

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lawhawk  May 25, 2018 • 8:15:15am

re: #297 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Disastrous sequester…. which still had the US spending more than the next 10 countries combined.

And Trump’s first budget proposal called for a slash and burn of USCG budget by 10%.

Yeah, he’s lying again.

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Sir John Barron  May 25, 2018 • 8:15:58am

re: #297 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

We will have the strongest military than we have ever had before. And when did we need it more than now?

I don’t know, maybe every other year before 1989.

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JordanRules  May 25, 2018 • 8:16:08am

re: #300 William Lewis

Wisconsin law does the same kind of thing - whatever party got the most votes in the preceding election gets the first spot on the ballot. It really doesn’t seem to be a problem here.

It’s not a necessary reward either.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 25, 2018 • 8:17:01am
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lawhawk  May 25, 2018 • 8:17:49am

re: #171 Archangelus

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JordanRules  May 25, 2018 • 8:19:18am
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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 8:20:15am

re: #307 JordanRules

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I read that. Nice reward for a colossal fuck up.

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Teukka  May 25, 2018 • 8:23:23am

re: #308 HappyWarrior

I read that. Nice reward for an EPICcolossal fuck up.

FTFY.

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JordanRules  May 25, 2018 • 8:23:36am

Yeah sure, this will win hearts and minds. WTF?!?
Maybe STFU.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 8:23:43am

re: #309 Teukka

FTFY.

For sure.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 8:24:22am

re: #310 JordanRules

Yeah sure, this will win hearts and minds. WTF?!?
Maybe STFU.

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Your honor, my client wasn’t the first person ever to rob a bank, I ask that you drop all charges. Sigh, I know he’s entitled to a defense but what the fuck is that?

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JordanRules  May 25, 2018 • 8:24:51am

re: #309 Teukka

FTFY.

Pretty sure those are synonymous.

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lawhawk  May 25, 2018 • 8:25:19am

re: #310 JordanRules

Yeah sure, this will win hearts and minds. WTF?!?
Maybe STFU.

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He’s not denying the actions. He’s reveling in the fact that he took advantage of his power and position to force women to submit to his sexual assaults.

Yeah, that’s a winning strategy.

Coincidentally, it’s the same strategy Trump’s playing across the board.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 8:25:26am

re: #313 JordanRules

Pretty sure those are synonymous.

They are.

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Teukka  May 25, 2018 • 8:25:58am

re: #313 JordanRules

Pretty sure those are synonymous.

I think the scale is:

3. Fail.
2. Collosal Fail.
1. Epic Fail.

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  May 25, 2018 • 8:26:57am

re: #274 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Catchy phrase

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JordanRules  May 25, 2018 • 8:27:10am

re: #316 Teukka

I think the scale is:

3. Fail.
2. Collosal Fail.
1. Epic Fail.

Ahh, the meme scale!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 25, 2018 • 8:27:45am
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Sir John Barron  May 25, 2018 • 8:27:46am

re: #310 JordanRules

Yeah sure, this will win hearts and minds. WTF?!?
Maybe STFU.

Quite a unique strategery, Cotton, let’s see if it works out.

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Eclectic Cyborg  May 25, 2018 • 8:29:08am

re: #310 JordanRules

Yeah sure, this will win hearts and minds. WTF?!?
Maybe STFU.

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Bill Cosbys lawyers tried the same thing:

“Even if proven (and it could not be), the age-old ‘casting couch’ is not unique to Mr. Cosby, and thus not a ‘signature’ nor a basis for the admissibility of these witnesses’ stories, let alone a conviction.“

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Sir John Barron  May 25, 2018 • 8:29:10am

re: #314 lawhawk

He’s not denying the actions. He’s reveling in the fact that he took advantage of his power and position to force women to submit to his sexual assaults.

Yeah, that’s a winning strategy.

Coincidentally, it’s the same strategy Trump’s playing across the board.

Your Honor, my client is a Winner. He wins at everything he does.

/

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MsJ  May 25, 2018 • 8:29:15am

Great article.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 8:29:45am

re: #316 Teukka

I think the scale is:

3. Fail.
2. Collosal Fail.
1. Epic Fail.

Ah ha :). But yeah as a serial killer history buff, that particular of the case always disturbed me. Not only did they give that Laotian kid back to Dahmer to be killed but they did a terrible job investigating the apartment and they berated the African-American women who reported the incident when they saw him naked and drugged. Shame. Better police work there could have saved lives.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 8:32:08am

I want to confess something here. I once laughed at things like rape jokes but I can’t do that anymore. It’s fucking vile.

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ObserverArt  May 25, 2018 • 8:33:08am

re: #310 JordanRules

Yeah sure, this will win hearts and minds. WTF?!?
Maybe STFU.

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I think Harvey’s lawyer just admitted Harvey is guilty and did so in the most arrogant way possible.

Might as well go on ahead and plead guilty and save NY state some trial costs.

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ObserverArt  May 25, 2018 • 8:35:23am

re: #314 lawhawk

He’s not denying the actions. He’s reveling in the fact that he took advantage of his power and position to force women to submit to his sexual assaults.

Yeah, that’s a winning strategy.

Coincidentally, it’s the same strategy Trump’s playing across the board.

The old “I know I am a complete asshole. And assholes do some really bad asshole stuff. Does that make it a crime?” defense.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 25, 2018 • 8:36:06am

re: #68 William Lewis

This Christian sure knows we have a duty to take in everyone.

Every. Fucking. One.

That’s straight from his words.

He said Nothing about abortion. Or gays. But he did say “for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.”

But the Religious Right preaches, “You are hungry because you are too lazy to get off your ass and work. You were thirsty and I told you to get a stick and dig for water. You were naked and I had you arrested for lewdness. You were sick and I told you to drag your ass to the Emergency Room. You were in prison and I cheered because it was your third strike”.

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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2018 • 8:37:53am

re: #328 Joe Bacon 🌹

But the Religious Right preaches, “You are hungry because you are too lazy to get off your ass and work. You were thirsty and I told you to get a stick and dig for water. You were naked and I had you arrested for lewdness. You were sick and I told you to drag your ass to the Emergency Room. You were in prison and I cheered because it was your third strike”.

The Gospel According to Wingnut Jesus.

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Teukka  May 25, 2018 • 8:50:05am

re: #68 William Lewis

This Christian sure knows we have a duty to take in everyone.

Every. Fucking. One.

That’s straight from his words.

He said Nothing about abortion. Or gays. But he did say “for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.”

Punchline was “Whatever you didn’t do to these least of us, you did not do to me”, or some such, as I recall…

re: #328 Joe Bacon 🌹

But the Religious Right preaches, “You are hungry because you are too lazy to get off your ass and work. You were thirsty and I told you to get a stick and dig for water. You were naked and I had you arrested for lewdness. You were sick and I told you to drag your ass to the Emergency Room. You were in prison and I cheered because it was your third strike”.

Sounds about right. But it’ll be their butthurt when The BOSS of Bosses comes down to paddle their sorry asses. And no, I’m not gonna enjoy that, I’ll bury my face in my hands and shudder…

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Skip Intro  May 25, 2018 • 8:52:12am

re: #272 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Oh good. Another trip to the dealer.

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Jay C  May 25, 2018 • 8:54:17am

re: #316 Teukka

I think the scale is:

3. Fail.
2. Collosal Fail.
1. Epic Fail.

I think the scale could be modified a bit:

4. Fail
3. Colossal Fail
2. Epic Fail
1. Trump-level Fail

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MsJ  May 25, 2018 • 8:54:27am

GIMME GIMME!

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William Lewis  May 25, 2018 • 8:55:00am

re: #328 Joe Bacon 🌹

But the Religious Right preaches, “You are hungry because you are too lazy to get off your ass and work. You were thirsty and I told you to get a stick and dig for water. You were naked and I had you arrested for lewdness. You were sick and I told you to drag your ass to the Emergency Room. You were in prison and I cheered because it was your third strike”.

As the saying goes, the Religious Right is neither.

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Teukka  May 25, 2018 • 8:55:10am

re: #332 Jay C

I think the scale could be modified a bit:

4. Fail
3. Colossal Fail
2. Epic Fail
1. Trump-level Fail

True, but my gut feeling is that we haven’t had any documented event of #1 yet, so the old scale still is in force.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 8:55:40am

Thanks everyone who read my page. I posted it on FB. My favorite thing has I’ve had cousins from both mom and dad’s side that I’ve met in my research appreciate the message.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 25, 2018 • 8:57:23am
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JordanRules  May 25, 2018 • 8:58:15am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 25, 2018 • 9:00:23am

re: #333 MsJ

GIMME GIMME!

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  May 25, 2018 • 9:00:55am
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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 9:01:18am

re: #337 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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That’s such bullshit. Every foreigner I talked to abroad can’t stand you or respect you, Donnie Dumbass.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 25, 2018 • 9:03:29am
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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  May 25, 2018 • 9:05:49am

re: #341 HappyWarrior

That’s such bullshit. Every foreigner I talked to abroad can’t stand you or respect you, Donnie Dumbass.

The leaders of despotic countries like us better.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 9:07:13am

re: #343 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

The leaders of despotic countries like us better.

Yep.

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MsJ  May 25, 2018 • 9:11:16am

GAH!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 25, 2018 • 9:11:30am
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MsJ  May 25, 2018 • 9:13:30am

Fucking hell. I hate this new reality.

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Teukka  May 25, 2018 • 9:13:38am

In local Swedish news, the temperatures for May are looking to be the warmest on record since record-keeping began in the mid-18th century.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  May 25, 2018 • 9:13:46am
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MsJ  May 25, 2018 • 9:14:15am
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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 9:14:36am

re: #345 MsJ

GAH!

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This is a bad take. No one’s “defending” MS-13. I’m against calling MS-13 the same way I’m against calling anyone an animal because it denies the human capacity to consciously do evil. I think calling MS-13 animals is in fact a cop out.

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MsJ  May 25, 2018 • 9:14:59am

re: #351 HappyWarrior

This is a bad take. No one’s “defending” MS-13. I’m against calling MS-13 the same way I’m against calling anyone an animal because it denies the human capacity to consciously do evil. I think calling MS-13 animals is in fact a cop out.

I cannot believe Kevin Drum wrote that drivel.

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mmmirele  May 25, 2018 • 9:22:42am

Mother Jones did a long story about #ChurchToo, which is bringing accountability to churches vis a vis ignoring and covering up sex abuse. It’s a great overview of what’s been happening

I’m just going to quote from the bit about Sovereign Grace, because I protest at a SG church on Sundays. But it goes way beyond this.

Rachael Denhollander, an evangelical and one of the first women to publicly accuse USA Gymnastics doctor Larry Nassar of sexual abuse, is now forcing the issue of child sex abuse at Sovereign Grace churches back into the spotlight long after the story faded from national attention a couple years ago—prompting loud, insistent calls for accountability. Pastor Mahaney of Sovereign Grace dropped out of the T4G (Together for the Gospel) conference this year, due to, he said in a statement, “the recent, renewed controversy.” (Sovereign Grace denies that it mishandled allegations of abuse and said in a statement to Mother Jones that the denomination “recognize[s] the critical importance of treating child sexual abuse seriously” and has taken steps to “better understand and address the risk of sexual abuse.”)

motherjones.com

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Sir John Barron  May 25, 2018 • 9:26:37am

re: #346 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Gosh, forgot all about Agenda 21. I thought we had snuffed out that threat to American Libertay.

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Sir John Barron  May 25, 2018 • 9:27:04am

re: #346 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

How about ole Jade Helm 15?

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mmmirele  May 25, 2018 • 9:27:43am

Along the same lines, you all probably saw that Paige Patterson got bounced from his job as president of Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary…into a position as president emeritus, with compensation provided and a brand-new retirement home at the “Baptist Heritage Center” on the SWBTS campus. I hope this tweet sent a chill down his spine today:

This is the woman Patterson told in 2003 not to report her rape.

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Scottish Dragon  May 25, 2018 • 9:28:19am

re: #229 Unshaken Defiance

Working as a teacher or being a student is getting more dangerous than the midnight shift at the 24hr convenience store or gas station.

There is a reason why I note escape routes and things I can use as weapons when I enter a classroom for the first time.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 9:29:07am

re: #356 mmmirele

Along the same lines, you all probably saw that Paige Patterson got bounced from his job as president of Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary…into a position as president emeritus, with compensation provided and a brand-new retirement home at the “Baptist Heritage Center” on the SWBTS campus. I hope this tweet sent a chill down his spine today:

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This is the woman Patterson told in 2003 not to report her rape.

I hope he gets ruined. Guy is a miserable human being.

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Jay C  May 25, 2018 • 9:31:11am

re: #354 Sir John Barron

Gosh, forgot all about Agenda 21. I thought we had snuffed out that threat to American Libertay.

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Agenda 21? That was the sinister conspiracy by UN-controlled Sinister Conspirators to turn the US into a European-style socialism-ridden hellhole by putting bike racks in American downtowns, right?

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Belafon  May 25, 2018 • 9:31:50am

re: #337 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Well, at one point in time, we were considered a puny nation that should be laughed at rather than feared. Sometime before 1890.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 25, 2018 • 9:32:38am

re: #235 Sir John Barron

Really? Maybe I should sign up.

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Damn! and I thought that both of them were Rosicrucians! 😏

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Sir John Barron  May 25, 2018 • 9:33:54am

re: #359 Jay C

Agenda 21? That was the sinister conspiracy by UN-controlled Sinister Conspirators to turn the US into a European-style socialism-ridden hellhole by putting bike racks in American downtowns, right?

We must have already been defeated, then, because there are bike racks all over DC.

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Belafon  May 25, 2018 • 9:35:18am

re: #352 MsJ

I cannot believe Kevin Drum wrote that drivel.

I’m not quite sure I get your point (though I can only see one tweet from Trump and one from Drum, so maybe I’m missing something). Trump embarrassed himself, and is trying to find ways to deflect that.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 25, 2018 • 9:35:58am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 25, 2018 • 9:41:11am

re: #290 gwangung

Better yet, randomized order with each ballot. We can do this, you know….

That’s how it’s done in California. Every precinct’s ballot is randomized.

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Jay C  May 25, 2018 • 9:41:16am

re: #362 Sir John Barron

We must have already been defeated, then, because there are bike racks all over DC.

All over New York, too. It’s especially sinister here as the Fiendishly Clever Socialists have seems to gotten Citibank to front for them….

IT’S A CONSPIRACEEEEEEEE!!!!11!!!!!

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ObserverArt  May 25, 2018 • 9:42:07am

re: #363 Belafon

I’m not quite sure I get your point (though I can only see one tweet from Trump and one from Drum, so maybe I’m missing something). Trump embarrassed himself, and is trying to find ways to deflect that.

I think MsJ is talking about the Mother Jones article that Drum wrote for Mother Jones.

Maybe you can’t access the link…so he is a direct one.

Mother Jones - Liberals Really Shouldn’t Be Defending MS-13 Just Because Donald Trump Doesn’t Like Them

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Sir John Barron  May 25, 2018 • 9:42:37am

re: #363 Belafon

I’m not quite sure I get your point (though I can only see one tweet from Trump and one from Drum, so maybe I’m missing something). Trump embarrassed himself, and is trying to find ways to deflect that.

You might be referencing the tweet from David Frum in reference to the canceled NK summit. MsJ is referencing a Mother Jones post by Kevin Drum about MS-13.

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Sir John Barron  May 25, 2018 • 9:43:52am

David Drum, Kevin Frum, David-Kevin FrumDrum.

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Sir John Barron  May 25, 2018 • 9:45:34am

Speaking of names, all the Michael Cohens confuse me. The number of Michael Cohens in DjT’s orbit alone make for very tricky news reading.

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Scottish Dragon  May 25, 2018 • 9:47:21am

re: #338 JordanRules

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It made kind of persona non grata at LGM…but that is why I object to law enforcement unions. (Eric Loomis over thinks the military should be unionized also, which I argued was utterly insane and probably unconstitutional)

Police and corrections unions have distorted application of criminal law and made oversight of their use of force almost meaningless, in addition to granting accused officers rights that are not available to other persons accused of crimes. Essentially, unions have managed to make police officers and (to a lesser extent) corrections officers a separate class of persons under the law.

Moreover, unions create a perverse parallel power structure and chain of command. This has been seen repeatedly in the NYPD, where open insubordination to civilian elected leadership was encouraged and countenanced by the union. In one notorious incident, an officer involved in an accidental fatal shooting of a man in a stairwell that he had been ordered to not enter chose to call his union leadership before calling medical aid for the man he shot. The NYPD “slowdown” a couple years ago is a larger illustration of how the union corrupted civilian control of an armed paramilitary force that is empowered to arrest or kill human beings based on merely stating “I felt threatened”.

Of course, in California, corrections officers get more and more and more prison beds to monitor while arguing against pot legalization (more crimes means more guards!) or home detention sentencing (more people kept in prison means more guards!).

Law enforcement unions regularly fight to gain advantage for their constituents at the expense of civilian control of armed agents of the state, basic human liberty and even lives. I would see them banned. That’s hard thing for me to say. I have belonged to unions. However, if you carry a gun and have the power to kill people or imprison them, your first and only loyalty must be to the rule of law and civilian leadership elected over you. There is no room for a union in that relationship and we cannot afford divided loyalty.

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MsJ  May 25, 2018 • 9:48:45am

re: #363 Belafon

I’m not quite sure I get your point (though I can only see one tweet from Trump and one from Drum, so maybe I’m missing something). Trump embarrassed himself, and is trying to find ways to deflect that.

Drum is taking the tac that Dems shouldn’t stick up for MS-13 (like that is what we are doing). I am not sure why he thinks we are defending them but that is what he’s saying in the article he wrote.

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Scottish Dragon  May 25, 2018 • 9:48:50am

re: #369 Sir John Barron

I gave up on Frum completely.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 25, 2018 • 9:49:43am
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Eclectic Cyborg  May 25, 2018 • 9:50:30am

re: #367 ObserverArt

Can someone tell me just who the fuck is defending MS-13??

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gwangung  May 25, 2018 • 9:51:49am

re: #375 Eclectic Cyborg

Can someone tell me just who the fuck is defending MS-13??

I’m defending the people who belong to the same demographic pool as MS-13….I think there’s a reason why some people conflate the two…..

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wrenchwench  May 25, 2018 • 9:52:43am

re: #370 Sir John Barron

Speaking of names, all the Michael Cohens confuse me. The number of Michael Cohens in DjT’s orbit alone make for very tricky news reading.

I lived in a coed dorm for 3 years. One year, there were 6 Davids on my floor. Two with the same last name. And two phones in the stairwell where everybody got their calls, except for the rich kid who had his own landline (the only kind of line at the time) in his room. Once I answered the phone and was asked for David White. I said, ‘You want white David White, or black David White?’ He laughed, and specified. I don’t remember which it was.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 25, 2018 • 9:53:14am
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I cannot.  May 25, 2018 • 9:53:16am

re: #375 Eclectic Cyborg

Nobody, except for their literal defense attorneys.

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lawhawk  May 25, 2018 • 9:53:35am

Throw the book at her Dan-o

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Sir John Barron  May 25, 2018 • 9:55:24am

re: #375 Eclectic Cyborg

Kevin Drumm referenced a tweet from someone I didn’t recognize, who made the point that percentage-wise MS-13 accounts for only 0.3% of murders or something and Drumm took offense at that, thinking it depicted a universal Liberal view that minimized MS-13.

I get where Drumm is coming from on this point—MS-13 is a problem here in the DC area, so irrespective of the actual percentages, context matters.

But labeling them all ‘animals’ as DJT did is really bottom feeder stuff that we should continue to call out, especially when the president is so, um,selective
when it comes to groups he criticizes and calls names.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 25, 2018 • 9:55:31am
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ckkatz  May 25, 2018 • 9:56:21am

re: #374 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not far from the 1892 “Battle of Homestead”:
en.wikipedia.org

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lawhawk  May 25, 2018 • 9:58:17am

re: #381 Sir John Barron

Kevin Drumm referenced a tweet from someone I didn’t recognize, who made the point that percentage-wise MS-13 accounts for only 0.3% of murders or something and Drumm took offense at that, thinking it depicted a universal Liberal view that minimized MS-13.

I get where Drumm is coming from on this point—MS-13 is a problem here in the DC area, so irrespective of the actual percentages, context matters.

But labeling them all ‘animals’ as DJT did is really bottom feeder stuff that we should continue to call out, especially when the president is so, um, selective
when it comes to groups he criticizes and calls names.

MS-13 is most active on Long Island, around DC, and in California.

And yet, crime rates are down in all three. The threat posed by MS-13 is regularly overstated and used as exhibit A of illegal aliens engaging in violence by the GOP, all while the GOP ignores the garden variety violence of Americans against other Americans.

SS/DD

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Sir John Barron  May 25, 2018 • 9:58:38am

re: #382 Backwoods_Sleuth

I have some bad news for him if he actually knows the history of this

well president tango doesn’t know the history of anything so…

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CongoJack  May 25, 2018 • 9:59:12am

re: #359 Jay C

Agenda 21? That was the sinister conspiracy by UN-controlled Sinister Conspirators to turn the US into a European-style socialism-ridden hellhole by putting bike racks in American downtowns, right?

Oh. my. dog. I received a call like that when I was an intern for a Senator:

Lady called into the constituent services office for Mark Udall - (D-CO) and yelled this at me. I calmly told her that whomever told her that was lying (I was allowed a lot of flexibility when responding to people) and attempting to give her a red-herring to distract her from what - I have no idea. Went into great detail in how much the US gives to the UN and that the UN would not be able to break the sovereignty of the USA etc etc etc. The lady actually calmed down, agreed with me, and asked why the people lied to her. I said, “Ma’am, people who want to scare you into believing something is terrifying usually are doing so to hide what they are doing behind their back as they themselves have their own plan in doing what they happen to be railing against.”

One of the best phone calls from a RW individual I received as my year as an intern. Usually the RWNJs would just curse, say horrible racist crap, or - ya know - threaten the Senator.

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Belafon  May 25, 2018 • 9:59:22am

re: #367 ObserverArt

I think MsJ is talking about the Mother Jones article that Drum wrote for Mother Jones.

Maybe you can’t access the link…so he is a direct one.

Mother Jones - Liberals Really Shouldn’t Be Defending MS-13 Just Because Donald Trump Doesn’t Like Them

OK. That makes way more sense.

Edit: And somehow what I read, and what I thought MsJ’s comment was tied to, is entirely different than what I’m seeing now.

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 10:00:51am

re: #384 lawhawk

MS-13 is most active on Long Island, around DC, and in California.

And yet, crime rates are down in all three. The threat posed by MS-13 is regularly overstated and used as exhibit A of illegal aliens engaging in violence by the GOP, all while the GOP ignores the garden variety violence of Americans against other Americans.

SS/DD

Correct. I work near my hometown. Lots of El Salvadoran immigrants there. I feel safe there.

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ckkatz  May 25, 2018 • 10:01:49am

re: #377 wrenchwench

I lived in a coed dorm for 3 years. One year, there were 6 Davids on my floor. Two with the same last name. And two phones in the stairwell where everybody got their calls, except for the rich kid who had his own landline (the only kind of line at the time) in his room. Once I answered the phone and was asked for David White. I said, ‘You want white David White, or black David White?’ He laughed, and specified. I don’t remember which it was.

Years ago, a neighboring group where I worked had three folks named Leslie, two gals and a guy. One day, tired of the confusion, the two female Leslie’s went to the male Leslie and told him that he was thenceforth to be called ‘Biff’. And that was how everybody in my group thereafter addressed him.

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Sir John Barron  May 25, 2018 • 10:02:27am

re: #388 HappyWarrior

Correct. I work near my hometown. Lots of El Salvadoran immigrants there. I feel safe there.

There have been some problems in the area of the Maryland/DC line, in and around PG County. Not all of it is literal killing, just harassment, extortion, general predatory type behavior.

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lawhawk  May 25, 2018 • 10:02:36am

re: #382 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yup. Capt. Lawrence suffered mortal wounds in the exchange, his ship’s colors were stricken, and the ship was captured by the Brits in sight of land.

Yeah, it was a loss, but the public demanded a win - so they settled for a slogan that would carry the day.

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  May 25, 2018 • 10:05:50am

damn…

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 10:07:37am

re: #390 Sir John Barron

There have been some problems in the area of the Maryland/DC line, in and around PG County. Not all of it is literal killing, just harassment, extortion, general predatory type behavior.

Right. Same thing here in NoVa.

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BeenHereAwhile  May 25, 2018 • 10:09:10am

re: #36 William Lewis

Ok, WAY OT, but holy sweet gregorian chanting catfish batman, this the most awesome cover I’ve stumbled on in a long time…

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Video

This is my favorite Bluegrass cover:

Brand New Tennessee Waltz

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Sir John Barron  May 25, 2018 • 10:09:43am

Very annoying scrolling through my FB feed and all the damn videos that start blaring or talking. I hate to mute my media feature but I guess I’ll need to remember I did it for when I really do want to listen to whatever someone has posted.

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lawhawk  May 25, 2018 • 10:11:50am

North Korea making a show of blowing up their test site.

Never mind that they really blew it up when they successfully tested their nuclear weapon.

North Korea is getting what they wanted out of this, and Trump fell for it.

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Sir John Barron  May 25, 2018 • 10:12:15am

re: #395 Sir John Barron

Very annoying scrolling through my FB feed and all the damn videos that start blaring or talking. I hate to mute my media feature but I guess I’ll need to remember I did it for when I really do want to listen to whatever someone has posted.

Is there a feature on most phones that turns off the autoplay from FB?

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ObserverArt  May 25, 2018 • 10:12:42am

re: #375 Eclectic Cyborg

Can someone tell me just who the fuck is defending MS-13??

You’d have to ask Drum. He seems to be wallowing in guilt or something.

It does show the classic Democratic issues though. For some reason it has always been tough to get Democratic people to stand strong and hold to a message. Too many times it turns into an issue of being too mean or too strong and doesn’t look good.

And since there are so many various groups that are part of the Democratic Party, there is always someone that is offended by someone else.

Meanwhile Republican form gangs that go out and beat their messages into their followers and others. They turn elections into wars and send out their army.

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ObserverArt  May 25, 2018 • 10:16:47am

re: #384 lawhawk

MS-13 is most active on Long Island, around DC, and in California.

And yet, crime rates are down in all three. The threat posed by MS-13 is regularly overstated and used as exhibit A of illegal aliens engaging in violence by the GOP, all while the GOP ignores the garden variety violence of Americans against other Americans.

SS/DD

I wonder how the motorcycle clubs like Hell’s Angels, Outlaws and others fit into these statistics?

Though I would not be surprised if Trump actually likes them…if you know what I mean.

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Sir John Barron  May 25, 2018 • 10:19:51am

re: #399 ObserverArt

I wonder how the motorcycle clubs like Hell’s Angels, Outlaws and others fit into these statistics?

Though I would not be surprised if Trump actually likes them…if you know what I mean.

“Look, there might be some fine folks in these other gangs….”

/

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 10:20:55am

re: #399 ObserverArt

I wonder how the motorcycle clubs like Hell’s Angels, Outlaws and others fit into these statistics?

Though I would not be surprised if Trump actually likes them…if you know what I mean.

He uses MS-13 to rationalize xenophobia against Hispanics.

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Charles Johnson  May 25, 2018 • 10:21:31am
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Dave In Austin  May 25, 2018 • 10:23:04am

LIVE!!

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HappyWarrior  May 25, 2018 • 10:23:49am

re: #403 Dave In Austin

LIVE!!

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Ow.

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The Vicious Babushka  May 25, 2018 • 10:25:10am

Jeanine Pirro has those ducklips firmly fastened on Donald Trump’s massive posterior, and now I just threw up in my mouth.

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Charles Johnson  May 25, 2018 • 10:25:56am
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Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2018 • 10:26:32am

re: #403 Dave In Austin

Oh, FFS, those “Q”ultists again.

Whoever’s doing that has gotta be laughing themselves silly.

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Dave In Austin  May 25, 2018 • 10:27:44am

Everyone should have at least one….

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Scottish Dragon  May 25, 2018 • 10:28:31am

re: #398 ObserverArt

You’d have to ask Drum. He seems to be wallowing in guilt or something.

It does show the classic Democratic issues though. For some reason it has always been tough to get Democratic people to stand strong and hold to a message. Too many times it turns into an issue of being too mean or too strong and doesn’t look good.

And since there are so many various groups that are part of the Democratic Party, there is always someone that is offended by someone else.

Meanwhile Republican form gangs that go out and beat their messages into their followers and others. They turn elections into wars and send out their army.

There is a reason why Saul Alinsky’s Rules For Radicals stipulates that messaging should be absolutely on point about one thing and one thing only in a protest.

If you are picketing a slum lord…your protest should NOT include stuff about the upcoming election or clemency for a prisoner or whatever. Stay on message.

We kinda suck at that, which is why we have to be reminded.

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ObserverArt  May 25, 2018 • 10:29:06am

re: #402 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Charles, I may have missed something, but what got that exchange going?

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Belafon  May 25, 2018 • 10:29:37am

re: #409 Scottish Dragon

There is a reason why Saul Alinsky’s Rules For Radicals stipulates that messaging should be absolutely on point about one thing and one thing only in a protest.

If you are picketing a slum lord…your protest should NOT include stuff about the upcoming election or clemency for a prisoner or whatever. Stay on message.

We kinda suck at that, which is why we have to be reminded.

Herding cats.

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MsJ  May 25, 2018 • 10:29:42am

re: #398 ObserverArt

You’d have to ask Drum. He seems to be wallowing in guilt or something.

It does show the classic Democratic issues though. For some reason it has always been tough to get Democratic people to stand strong and hold to a message. Too many times it turns into an issue of being too mean or too strong and doesn’t look good.

And since there are so many various groups that are part of the Democratic Party, there is always someone that is offended by someone else.

Meanwhile Republican form gangs that go out and beat their messages into their followers and others. They turn elections into wars and send out their army.

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

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BigPapa  May 25, 2018 • 10:31:52am

Last Trump tweet about the Naval Academy:

Good luck. Godspeed. And ANCHORS AWEIGH!

(cringe)

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The Vicious Babushka  May 25, 2018 • 10:32:12am

Ben Garrison’s most insane Trump cartoon yet.
In spoiler tags in case you’re eating lunch.

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Charles Johnson  May 25, 2018 • 10:32:24am
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Charles Johnson  May 25, 2018 • 10:34:07am

re: #410 ObserverArt

Charles, I may have missed something, but what got that exchange going?

This tweet…

… which I immediately followed with this tweet…

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The Ghost of a Flea  May 25, 2018 • 10:36:53am

re: #416 Charles Johnson

They definitely have opinions about suppressing video games, which is also fucking with the 1st Amendment.

It’s all bad faith argumentation, even their read of the 2nd Amendment. What they want is to be the umpires of who deserves to get shot.

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garzooma  May 25, 2018 • 10:37:31am

re: #391 lawhawk

Yup. Capt. Lawrence suffered mortal wounds in the exchange, his ship’s colors were stricken, and the ship was captured by the Brits in sight of land.

Yeah, it was a loss, but the public demanded a win - so they settled for a slogan that would carry the day.

His rallying cry, published a few weeks later in a Baltimore newspaper, became the unofficial motto of the US Navy for decades thereafter, long predating “Remember the Maine” or “Remember Pearl Harbor.”

Which were also debacles turned into rally cries. It’s not uncommon.

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Scottish Dragon  May 25, 2018 • 10:37:31am
420
BigPapa  May 25, 2018 • 10:40:56am

Damn Triumphers!

421
Scottish Dragon  May 25, 2018 • 10:41:10am

How is this not an unconstitutional human rights abuse? This is beyond obscene.

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Jack Burton  May 25, 2018 • 10:44:18am

re: #420 BigPapa

I have the same problem. Two Triumph T-Shirts and a hat that I can’t wear… because idiots.

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Scottish Dragon  May 25, 2018 • 10:44:58am
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makeitstop  May 25, 2018 • 10:47:49am

re: #421 Scottish Dragon

How is this not an unconstitutional human rights abuse? This is beyond obscene.

[Embedded content]

I’m beginning to wonder if these kids are being turned into fodder for human trafficking.

Why else would they be so intent upon taking them away from the parents? What’s the purpose?

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  May 25, 2018 • 10:48:47am

re: #422 Jack Burton

I have the same problem. Two Triumph T-Shirts and a hat that I can’t wear… because idiots.

I have that problem with an ISIS shirt since the name was tied to murderous Islamists.

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Mike Lamb  May 25, 2018 • 10:50:19am

re: #421 Scottish Dragon

How is this not an unconstitutional human rights abuse? This is beyond obscene.

[Embedded content]

But remember—that 18 month might look innocent, but he’s not…

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Scottish Dragon  May 25, 2018 • 10:50:38am

re: #424 makeitstop

I’m beginning to wonder if these kids are being turned into fodder for human trafficking.

Why else would they be so intent upon taking them away from the parents? What’s the purpose?

Sadism. Trump and Sessions (and Gen. Kelly!!) emphasized it was to deter people coming here if their children were taken away and they might never see them again.

I literally never imagined we would de something like this in America.

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Scottish Dragon  May 25, 2018 • 10:51:08am

re: #426 Mike Lamb

But remember—that 18 month might look innocent, but he’s not…

People making that actual argument at Rod Dreher’s blog. Not kidding.

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Jack Burton  May 25, 2018 • 10:51:13am

re: #421 Scottish Dragon

How is this not an unconstitutional human rights abuse? This is beyond obscene.

[Embedded content]

After this nightmare is over and adults are back in charge, fixing this should be in the top things to do. CBP and ICE need to be purged and reformed. Prosecutions need to happen.

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wrenchwench  May 25, 2018 • 10:52:40am

re: #424 makeitstop

I’m beginning to wonder if these kids are being turned into fodder for human trafficking.

Why else would they be so intent upon taking them away from the parents? What’s the purpose?

They’re trying to make the parents more afraid of ICE than they are of MS 13.

The root of the matter is that when rwnjs see brown immigrants, they see future Democrats coming to take away their superiority.

431
Dr Lizardo  May 25, 2018 • 10:52:55am

re: #427 Scottish Dragon

Sadism. Trump and Sessions (and Gen. Kelly!!) emphasized it was to deter people coming here if their children were taken away and they might never see them again.

I literally never imagined we would de something like this in America.

Nacht und Nebel, Trump-style.

432
lawhawk  May 25, 2018 • 10:53:31am
433
lawhawk  May 25, 2018 • 10:53:40am
434
jaunte  May 25, 2018 • 10:54:23am

re: #424 makeitstop

Why else would they be so intent upon taking them away from the parents? What’s the purpose?

State-sponsored Terror.

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Belafon  May 25, 2018 • 10:56:47am

re: #430 wrenchwench

They’re trying to make the parents more afraid of ICE than they are of MS 13.

The root of the matter is that when rwnjs see brown immigrants, they see future Democrats coming to take away their superiority.

And why would immigrants do that? Because rwnjs see brown immigrants, and treat them like shit.

436
Scottish Dragon  May 25, 2018 • 10:57:42am

re: #429 Jack Burton

After this nightmare is over and adults are back in charge, fixing this should be in the top things to do. CBP and ICE need to be purged and reformed. Prosecutions need to happen.

ICE needs to be disbanded.

437
ObserverArt  May 25, 2018 • 11:06:45am

re: #436 Scottish Dragon

ICE needs to be disbanded.

Republicans need to be kicked out of our government (and in the ass) . Then we can get back to actually Making America Great Again.

I have sent several missives to Rob Portman and Mitch McConnell reminding them their party is headed up by President Trump and they are all responsible for everything he does.

I cannot emphasize enough that we must hang Trump on the Republican party at every turn. They cannot be separated from Trump and no wiggle room can be given for anyone like a Jeff Flake that talks a good game but is too much a wimp to actually do anything.

Trump = Republicans
Republicans ARE Trump.

438
Sir John Barron  May 25, 2018 • 11:09:05am

re: #414 The Vicious Babushka

Ben Garrison’s most insane Trump cartoon yet.
In spoiler tags in case you’re eating lunch.
[Embedded content]

Nope, nope, no way

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Mike Lamb  May 25, 2018 • 11:46:40am

re: #428 Scottish Dragon

People making that actual argument at Rod Dreher’s blog. Not kidding.

And those fuckers dare to claim the moral high ground.


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