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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 3, 2018 • 12:48:33pm

Watching the CNN piece following deportees back to El Salvador. I can’t stand the idea of my homeland being this cruel.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 3, 2018 • 12:50:16pm

re: #1 Unshaken Defiance

Watching the CNN piece following deportees back to El Salvador. I can’t stand the idea of my homeland being this cruel.

Donald Trump is a cunt.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 12:52:35pm

re: #394 delilah

The percentage of independents has risen by 7 points since November 2016, according to Gallup.

Pretty much the same as under GW Bush. Temporarily embarrassed Republicans.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 3, 2018 • 12:53:48pm

oh shit

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 3, 2018 • 12:54:19pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 3, 2018 • 12:55:12pm

And this
US Customs seizes Ohio family’s life savings at airport

No crime committed. No illegal connections They we as in our government just took the money

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MsJ  Jun 3, 2018 • 12:57:18pm

re: #2 I Would Prefer Not To

Donald Trump is a cunt.

As are his feckless “policy advisor” children.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 3, 2018 • 12:58:38pm

re: #7 MsJ

As are his feckless “policy advisor” children.

Yes, but I don’t want to appear sexist so I only call the male trumps cunts. Not sure what to call Ivanka.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:01:20pm

re: #6 Unshaken Defiance

And this
US Customs seizes Ohio family’s life savings at airport

No crime committed. No illegal connections They we as in our government just took the money

This is horrific.

And, because math geek and can’t help myself. CNN, your writers and editors are fucking idiots. Use a goddamn calculator if you can’t do math in your brain-thing.

…The agency also said $57,330 was seized, or $770 less than Kazazi was carrying, the suit said.

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sagehen  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:02:00pm

re: #8 I Would Prefer Not To

Yes, but I don’t want to appear sexist so I only call the male trumps cunts. Not sure what to call Ivanka.

Complicit - SNL

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:02:24pm

Moist.

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MsJ  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:02:29pm

re: #8 I Would Prefer Not To

Yes, but I don’t want to appear sexist so I only call the male trumps cunts. Not sure what to call Ivanka.

A dick. For all her dickish actions.

The cunt.

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ObserverArt  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:02:47pm

re: #4 The Vicious Babushka

oh shit

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Heh. I used to attend that race. Now…pffft. In a way this doesn’t surprise me. A lot of dumb stuff happens in the series now.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:04:08pm

re: #1 Unshaken Defiance

Watching the CNN piece following deportees back to El Salvador. I can’t stand the idea of my homeland being this cruel.

I know what you mean

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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:05:52pm

re: #10 sagehen

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Video

“Sorry girl you’re Billy Zane.”

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delilah  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:06:32pm

re: #3 Anymouse 🌹

Where do you see that?

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ObserverArt  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:06:51pm

Comment carried over from ‘mouse’s link to the story that “outed” Amy Mek at the end of last thread:

Just read the linked Amy Mek story. I thought some of that sounded familiar. When I saw the killer’s name it hit me.

The “stripper” that was mentioned in the article that was killed by Paul Cortez, Catherine Woods, was the daughter of the former director of the Ohio State University marching band. So, it was big news at OSU and around Columbus.

She had the classic dreams of going to New York to work as a dancer, etc. in theatrical work. I think she was a trained dancer/ballerina. She worked as an exotic dancer (not really a stripper from what the word was around Columbus) to make a go of things and met up with Cortez.

My understanding is it was a pretty clearly proven case. Weird knowing that Amy “Mek” fell into supporting Cortez. And it then gets stranger. Wow.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:07:00pm

Patriot Kidnaps Latino Family To Make His Yard Great Again (Wonkette)

Unfortunately for the idiot in Washington who decided he was going snatch a young boy who was starting his mother’s car before school, he never took US History 101 from a textbook that told him that slavery was over. Even though he is clearly black, he must have not realized that the 13th Amendment also applies to brown people. Apparently he looked over at the industrious young latino boy and decided that he should own him for himself. Because why not? Why should a young latino boy be allowed to go to fucking school and get an education when he could clearly be working as a slave for his neighbor who really really really needed some yard work done? Exactly, because SLAVERY IS A CRIME*.

(more)

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:09:13pm

re: #14 HappyWarrior

Donald Trump has killed more civilian Americans than Al Qaeda and the Taliban combined. As he is not done yet. Who believes he will stop at immigrants? Not me. I firmly believe that if/when Los Angeles or San Francisco was hit with a major disaster FEMA won’t be coming to help in any effective manner. Trump will try to just let us perish, and congress is more complicit with him than he is with the Russians.

Why we do not have anti Vietnam war crowds in the streets is a mystery to me.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:13:01pm

The old republicans- Quoting Reagan, Iran Contra- ‘I don’t remember”
The new republicans ala Giuliani “Our recollections keep changing”

Well, Reagan was responsible, with our without a good recollection. And this new “recollections keep changing” is just the old “I can’t keep my story straight”.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:15:27pm

re: #19 Unshaken Defiance

I understand how you feel. That is why I voted for Hillary. DT only has business experience not governmental.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:19:03pm

re: #16 delilah

Where do you see that?

2007 Jan 12-14 28 40 32
2007 Jan 5-7 27 42 31
2006 Dec 11-14 30 34 35

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MsJ  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:22:21pm

re: #19 Unshaken Defiance

Donald Trump has killed more civilian Americans than Al Qaeda and the Taliban combined. As he is not done yet. Who believes he will stop at immigrants? Not me. I firmly believe that if/when Los Angeles or San Francisco was hit with a major disaster FEMA won’t be coming to help in any effective manner. Trump will try to just let us perish, and congress is more complicit with him than he is with the Russians.

Why we do not have anti Vietnam war crowds in the streets is a mystery to me.

Soon to be proven by the response to Hawaii… Which is still erupting.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:23:37pm

re: #23 MsJ

Soon to be proven by the response to Hawaii… Which is still erupting.

And promptly followed by the responses to whatever hurricanes blow through in a couple of months or so.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:24:43pm

re: #21 PhillyPretzel

I understand how you feel. That is why I voted for Hillary. DT only has businessfraudulent experience not governmental.

I voted for her too. And a little ftfy :-)

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:25:09pm

re: #25 Unshaken Defiance

Thanks. :)

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freetoken  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:26:06pm

re: #3 Anymouse 🌹

Looking at those numbers, there does not appear to be a meaningful trend since 2013.

More or less, I’ve concluded that so many of the political polls done by these outfits, that are the publicly published ones anyway, have little meaning month to month.

Party affiliations, “approval” ratings, etc., are all pavlovian bells when asked by pollsters.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:28:32pm
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wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:29:23pm

re: #19 Unshaken Defiance

Donald Trump has killed more civilian Americans than Al Qaeda and the Taliban combined. As he is not done yet. Who believes he will stop at immigrants? Not me. I firmly believe that if/when Los Angeles or San Francisco was hit with a major disaster FEMA won’t be coming to help in any effective manner. Trump will try to just let us perish, and congress is more complicit with him than he is with the Russians.

Why we do not have anti Vietnam war crowds in the streets is a mystery to me.

It took a long time to get crowds in the streets. Thousands were dying, and ‘regular folks’ were losing fathers, sons, brothers, and cousins. It took a long time to get organized and unified, or at least coordinated.

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freetoken  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:30:33pm

Look at these latest numbers from part of that dataset:

(Asked of independents) As of today, do you lean more to the Democratic Party or the Republican Party?
Figures are combined party identifiers + leaners
Republicans + Republican leaners Democrats + Democratic leaners

2018 May 1-10 44 44
2018 Apr 2-11 39 49

That’s a 5 point flip (of independents’ leaning, if they were forced to choose) over a mere one month period.

What can account for this?

Probably it is nothing but random sampling, with the number of people pooled being too small.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:32:42pm

So I encountered a bug in Safari’s handling of the CSS calc() function, went to their developer site and filed a report, with a snippet of code that demonstrated the problem. A very simple issue, right?

Got a response from Apple asking me to send along screenshots, a system profile that can take up to an hour to generate, and a link to a page demonstrating the bug.

Fuck that, I’ll just work around it, thanks for nothing. Apple support is usually very good, but this was a very stupid interaction. Might have been automated.

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wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:33:44pm

re: #28 The Vicious Babushka

[When I get sad & depressed baking always cheers me up.]

There’s something about making food, especially something so basic that not everyone can do.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:34:25pm

re: #29 wrenchwench

It took a long time to get crowds in the streets. Thousands were dying, and ‘regular folks’ were losing fathers, sons, brothers, and cousins. It took a long time to get organized and unified, or at least coordinated.

Also it was peak baby boom,and the country was rich. People could afford to take off work or even not work.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:35:04pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:36:21pm

re: #34 The Vicious Babushka

They look delicious. :)

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wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:36:46pm

re: #33 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Yep. Expectations were being raised, not razed.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:38:20pm

re: #29 wrenchwench

It took a long time to get crowds in the streets. Thousands were dying, and ‘regular folks’ were losing fathers, sons, brothers, and cousins. It took a long time to get organized and unified, or at least coordinated.

All true. And the draft was hitting every block of houses. Unlike deportations, porn star scandal and foreign / money interests. Pending some spine in D.C., or a Mueller breakout before he has to election embargo or something else writ large, that day is coming. I would have thought at the speed of the internet but there is a lot I don’t understand in and about what is making us hesitate now.

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dangerman  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:39:17pm

re: #8 I Would Prefer Not To

Yes, but I don’t want to appear sexist so I only call the male trumps cunts. Not sure what to call Ivanka.

Would be great if trump goes down in infamy for absolutely nothing other than normalizing the use of “cunt”

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:40:51pm

Where are we as a sensible democratic people?

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Interesting Times  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:41:38pm
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dangerman  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:42:12pm

re: #20 Unshaken Defiance

The old republicans- Quoting Reagan, Iran Contra- ‘I don’t remember”
The new republicans ala Giuliani “Our recollections keep changing”

Well, Reagan was responsible, with our without a good recollection. And this new “recollections keep changing” is just the old “I can’t keep my story straight”.

Goes back to Watergate:
“I’m sorry senator, his recollection and my recollection are just not the same recollection”

Fun times

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Belafon  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:42:33pm

re: #19 Unshaken Defiance

Why we do not have anti Vietnam war crowds in the streets is a mystery to me.

Someone needs to organize them. One of the Castro’s has organized a march in San Antonio for the treatment of families separated at the border, but for all of this other stuff, there will need to be people organizing them.

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wrenchwench  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:43:41pm

re: #37 Unshaken Defiance

All true. And the draft was hitting every block of houses. Unlike deportations, porn star scandal and foreign / money interests. Pending some spine in D.C., or a Mueller breakout before he has to election embargo or something else writ large, that day is coming. I would have thought at the speed of the internet but there is a lot I don’t understand in and about what is making us hesitate now.

People didn’t march in the street over Watergate. It contributed to the narrative of the lying president. A lot of what’s going on now is not hesitation. It’s thinking. talking, and organizing. And campaigning.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:44:58pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

I’m gonna guess Edge is well down your list of browser versions to spend time on. FWIW, uploading an image crashes the tab, dragging in works just fine.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:47:48pm

I’d say they should declare Grenell persona non-grata and kick him the fuck out of the country, but he’s probably unintentionally helping Merkel due to Trump’s immense unpopularity in Germany.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:49:11pm

re: #45 goddamnedfrank

Wingnut fantasy-Regime change happened here, why not everywhere else?

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freetoken  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:49:46pm

The thorough debasement of ethics in the name of religion…

Over on PJmedia, on the Instaidiot page, one Mark Tapscott is linking to his article on the anti-abortion site LifeZette, in which he champions the effort by Colter (wife of former c.o.s. of Paige Patterson.)

That article goes even farther, reading into Colter’s “defense” what she didn’t stress.

The entire hate-right/religious-right is a con, no more concerned with ethics than the termites eating your house.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:51:04pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:51:48pm

re: #27 freetoken

Looking at those numbers, there does not appear to be a meaningful trend since 2013.

More or less, I’ve concluded that so many of the political polls done by these outfits, that are the publicly published ones anyway, have little meaning month to month.

Party affiliations, “approval” ratings, etc., are all pavlovian bells when asked by pollsters.

True enough. Polling on specific issues might be more revealing, but I am not educated in the area.

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meteor  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:55:26pm

re: #28 The Vicious Babushka

Mmm nom nom nom. Looks delicious.

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meteor  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:57:05pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 3, 2018 • 1:58:33pm

re: #16 delilah

Thanks Delilah for digging up info on party affiliation in the last thread. Sounds like good news for Democrats with the growth of Independents and a shrinking Republican Party.

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Belafon  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:01:27pm

re: #48 Patricia Kayden

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:01:44pm

re: #52 Patricia Kayden

And do not forget those who split their ticket. There are quite a few of us who vote with our heads backed up by solid facts in spite of our party.

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Belafon  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:02:44pm

re: #45 goddamnedfrank

I’d say they should declare Grenell persona non-grata and kick him the fuck out of the country, but he’s probably unintentionally helping Merkel due to Trump’s immense unpopularity in Germany.

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I suspect he won’t be allowed to stay in Germany much longer.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:03:15pm

Pretty amazing technology here… but also pretty scary.

Google Duplex: A.I. Assistant Calls Local Businesses To Make Appointments

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:06:46pm

LOL

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Jay C  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:07:25pm

re: #37 Unshaken Defiance

All true. And the draft was hitting every block of houses. Unlike deportations, porn star scandal and foreign / money interests. Pending some spine in D.C., or a Mueller breakout before he has to election embargo or something else writ large, that day is coming. I would have thought at the speed of the internet but there is a lot I don’t understand in and about what is making us hesitate now.

Not to mention the steadily mounting lists of Vietnam War casualties that started piling up year after year: affecting, if not “every block of houses”, enough of them that the War became a tangible presence in the national life - as well as the constant TV presence which never seemed to go away or diminish (despite the steady feed of “we’re winning!” propaganda from the government).

But it took a couple of years for the protest movement to really get moving: the US began its major combat buildup in the summer of 1965: I remember quite clearly one of the first “big” antiwar protests (as it was a few blocks from my high school) in June 1967 - President Johnson was in Los Angeles for a speech at the Century Plaza Hotel in West LA: the demonstration - which had not been expected to be particularly large - turned out several thousand people. The police, nonplussed at the turnout (they would later characterize it, of course, as a “riot”), freaked out and ended up tear-gassing the crowd, beating people up, making mass arrests, etc.

But the real bafflement, I recall, was from the media (just print press and TV in those days): they had been characterizing the antiwar movement for years as a fringe freakshow of commies/radicals/hippies/dopers, and found it hard to wrap their heads (or narratives) around the fact that Vietnam policy was (or still less should be) generating enough opposition to turn out thousands of people into the streets. And sadly, I don’t think a lot of them ever did.

ADD: My recall is better than I thought: see HERE: scroll to timeline for June 23, 1967.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:09:51pm

The responses to this are a hoot …

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dangerman  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:10:36pm

re: #48 Patricia Kayden

It’s fairly incredible the degree to which the notion that there’s been “no collusion” revealed has taken hold. Pointing to the Trump Tower meeting alone would be an effective rejoinder (even if debatable). But few Democrats actually make that point

Miller’s not done yet
And he’s not talking

Something has to fill the vacuum
Let the rubes. It’s meaningless.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:13:22pm

re: #59 Anymouse 🌹

The responses to this are a hoot …

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As Jennifer Rubin said this morning on AM Joy, it’s as if Rudy is actively working towards Trump being able to argue that he had ineffective counsel when it all inevitably goes south.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:13:31pm

re: #19 Unshaken Defiance

Donald Trump has killed more civilian Americans than Al Qaeda and the Taliban combined. As he is not done yet. Who believes he will stop at immigrants? Not me. I firmly believe that if/when Los Angeles or San Francisco was hit with a major disaster FEMA won’t be coming to help in any effective manner. Trump will try to just let us perish, and congress is more complicit with him than he is with the Russians.

Why we do not have anti Vietnam war crowds in the streets is a mystery to me.

That’s because the Republican 24/7 Bullshit Machine is now cranked up to 12.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:17:53pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

Pretty amazing technology here… but also pretty scary.

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Yep. Pranksters will have a field day with this.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:22:25pm

On the issue of the ambassador to Germany saying he would try to fiddle with European elections, wasn’t that guy another of Trump’s Internet trolls before he became ambassador? (I forget, there are so many douchecanoes in the maladministration.)

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freetoken  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:22:26pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

Those crowd shots seem like they ought to end up in an Onion video of some sort.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:26:21pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:29:25pm

Roseanne Spinoff Starring Sara Gilbert Reportedly in the Works at ABC (E! Online)

I see they may be going the route of TLC and their show “Too Many Kids and Counting.”

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The Major  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:29:55pm

re: #66 Stanley Sea

Maybe the simple procedure wasn’t so simple and has turned into something more serious - shit, Reagan was up waving at the window after his colon surgery in 2-3 days?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:31:51pm

somebody hold back my hair while I barf…

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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:34:38pm

re: #69 Backwoods_Sleuth

somebody hold back my hair while I barf…

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And Bibi is meeting with the Governor of Kentucky, why? Oh right, Bibi likes his ass kissed.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:35:13pm

re: #64 Anymouse 🌹

On the issue of the ambassador to Germany saying he would try to fiddle with European elections, wasn’t that guy another of Trump’s Internet trolls before he became ambassador? (I forget, there are so many douchecanoes in the maladministration.)

Yep. He was a troll extraordinaire.
“Grenell, who once served the Bush administration as U.N. Ambassador John Bolton’s spokesman, was forced to delete hundreds of sexist, rude comments from his Twitter feed in 2012, during his brief tenure as foreign affairs spokesman for Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign.

The uproar over his tweets at the time, combined with anger from Republican homophobes who objected to the fact that he was gay, led to Grenell’s resignation from the Romney campaign just days after he had joined it.”

theintercept.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:35:46pm

Video up from the pace car wreck at the Detroit Grand Prix.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:37:18pm

re: #71 Patricia Kayden

Yep. He was a troll extraordinaire.
“Grenell, who once served the Bush administration as U.N. Ambassador John Bolton’s spokesman, was forced to delete hundreds of sexist, rude comments from his Twitter feed in 2012, during his brief tenure as foreign affairs spokesman for Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign.

The uproar over his tweets at the time, combined with anger from Republican homophobes who objected to the fact that he was gay, led to Grenell’s resignation from the Romney campaign just days after he had joined it.”

theintercept.com

Would seem to me that being gay was the least of Grenell’s problems. Not saying you said it was, pointing out that he got fired by Romney for being gay not for being a dickhead.

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meteor  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:38:48pm
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TedStriker  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:38:59pm

re: #67 Anymouse 🌹

Roseanne Spinoff Starring Sara Gilbert Reportedly in the Works at ABC (E! Online)

I see they may be going the route of TLC and their show “Too Many Kids and Counting.”

Interesting workaround…that is, if Gilbert can sell it after Roseanne killed the “mainline” show.

Frankly, if Gilbert and Carsey-Werner wanted to have a show in the Roseanne-niverse, something like this would have been much less fraught with the danger of Roseanne repeatedly sticking her fucking foot in her mouth, because if Roseanne was reduced to a guest/supporting star on a new spinoff, it wouldn’t matter nearly as much what she did or said off-air.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:39:10pm

re: #66 Stanley Sea

Perhaps Melania has decided that pretending to be a couple is too exhausting and not worth it. Oh well. Trophy wives have no reason to play along when their husbands sleep with scores of women and have to pay them off to keep quiet.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:39:48pm

re: #74 meteor

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Because she wants to dress how she wants to dress, you fucking idiot.

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ObserverArt  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:43:14pm

re: #72 Anymouse 🌹

Video up from the pace car wreck at the Detroit Grand Prix.

[Embedded content]

That GM employee was none other than Mark Ruess, Executive Vice President of Global Product Development - Purchasing and Supply Chain at General Motors.

He had a too heavy a foot for his ‘vette of 700 horsepower and spun that sucker out.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:43:21pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:44:40pm

re: #66 Stanley Sea

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The plot thickens…

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I Would Prefer Not To  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:44:42pm

re: #68 The Major

Maybe the simple procedure wasn’t so simple and has turned into something more serious - shit, Reagan was up waving at the window after his colon surgery in 2-3 days?

Then why not tell us something?

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:45:38pm

re: #55 Belafon

I suspect he won’t be allowed to stay in Germany much longer.

It would be unthinkable for Germany to expel the US Ambassador under any other Administration. It’ll take a lot worse than this to get to that point; they’ll probably just grit their teeth and bear it until January 2021 when they can wish him a (not so) fond farewell.

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ObserverArt  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:45:54pm

re: #75 TedStriker

Interesting workaround…that is, if Gilbert can sell it after Roseanne killed the “mainline” show.

Frankly, if Gilbert and Carsey-Werner wanted to have a show in the Roseanne-niverse, something like this would have been much less fraught with the danger of Roseanne repeatedly sticking her fucking foot in her mouth, because if Roseanne was reduced to a guest/supporting star on a new show, it wouldn’t matter nearly as much what she did or said off-air.

Do a show on what it is like to have a Trump fanatic in your family and how you need to get that person out of your life and move on because they are just too crazy to deal with and hurt the family dynamic.

It isn’t like that is a far out concept. In fact many could relate.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:46:43pm

re: #83 ObserverArt

Do a show on what it is like to have a Trump fanatic in your family and how you need to get that person out of your life and move on because they are just too crazy to deal with and hurt the family dynamic.

It isn’t like that is a far out concept. In fact many could relate.

I never wasted any time watching Blowsanne’s original show and I won’t watch this either!

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ObserverArt  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:49:42pm

re: #76 Patricia Kayden

Perhaps Melania has decided that pretending to be a couple is too exhausting and not worth it. Oh well. Trophy wives have no reason to play along when their husbands sleep with scores of women and have to pay them off to keep quiet.

In other words…

It would BE BEST

to not BE AROUND

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:49:47pm

re: #74 meteor

Why do people ask silly questions like that? Why do they care? I’ve seen weddings where the bride and groom wore clothes that I didn’t particularly care for but it’s not my wedding so who cares?

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:51:41pm

re: #83 ObserverArt

Ha!! Smart concept. I’m sure loads of Americans can relate to having to deal with a toxic Trump family member. LOL.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:52:35pm

re: #87 Patricia Kayden

Ha!! Smart concept. I’m sure loads of Americans can relate to having to deal with a toxic Trump family member. LOL.

I got a whole family of them which I block on Twitter and Facebook…

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:55:47pm

re: #86 Patricia Kayden

Why do people ask silly questions like that? Why do they care? I’ve seen weddings where the bride and groom wore clothes that I didn’t particularly care for but it’s not my wedding so who cares?

My wife wore pants for our wedding.

samkhyawicca.org (takes forever to load with my Internet connexion but if you have a real high speed connexion it loads pretty quickly)

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ObserverArt  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:56:14pm

re: #84 Joe Bacon 🌹

I never wasted any time watching Blowsanne’s original show and I won’t watch this either!

Just tossing out an idea Joe. Roseanne wouldn’t even be in my version. She would just be mentioned but not appear.

Plus, I don’t watch sitcom type shows anyway. Just goofing around.

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dangerman  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:58:47pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

Because she wants to dress how she wants to dress, you fucking idiot.

Hey dopey (him not you)
Im a man
I married a woman
My best man was a woman

What do you think it all means?
Please enlighten me so I’ll know how to think back about my own wedding correctly

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Belafon  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:58:52pm

re: #82 Big Beautiful Door

It would be unthinkable for Germany to expel the US Ambassador under any other Administration. It’ll take a lot worse than this to get to that point; they’ll probably just grit their teeth and bear it until January 2021 when they can wish him a (not so) fond farewell.

Maybe they can pay for a wall around the embassy.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 3, 2018 • 2:59:54pm

re: #66 Stanley Sea

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How many days has it been since Melania was last seen in public? This is getting creepy.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:01:29pm

The LA Times has an article on why Democrats are running in “hopeless” districts in California.

latimes.com

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:01:32pm

re: #90 ObserverArt

Just tossing out an idea Joe. Roseanne wouldn’t even be in my version. She would just be mentioned but not appear.

Plus, I don’t watch sitcom type shows anyway. Just goofing around.

Roseanne winds up on skid row pushing a shopping cart and refuses any help from anyone. Even then I wouldn’t watch it…

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stpaulbear  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:02:03pm

re: #86 Patricia Kayden

Why do people ask silly questions like that? Why do they care? I’ve seen weddings where the bride and groom wore clothes that I didn’t particularly care for but it’s not my wedding so who cares?

They need Xanax for gay summer weddings. This still makes me laugh.

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Skip Intro  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:02:59pm

re: #66 Stanley Sea

“She’s dead Jim”.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:11:44pm
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Skip Intro  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:12:36pm

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freetoken  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:12:58pm

re: #94 Anymouse 🌹

Thing is, there are not so many “hopeless” districts in California.

And that is what the Republicans in that piece don’t bring up.

Even here in the deep south of California, Car Thief barely won his last election and could easily be unseated this time around. Duncan The Lesser has the most Republican of districts, and I don’t know if there will be a successful Democrat there until the Bible-beaters get really derailed by all the immigrants moving into El Cajon whenever they become able to vote.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:13:24pm

re: #99 Skip Intro

Excellent play on words.

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freetoken  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:13:41pm

re: #98 jaunte

Have we blamed Aliens yet?

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Skip Intro  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:14:01pm

re: #101 PhillyPretzel

Excellent play on words.

A once in a lifetime opportunity.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:14:50pm

Criswell Bacon predicts that the G7 meeting will turn into this!

The Great Race, and a great pie fight

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:16:45pm

The Faith of Donald Trump
The Peace and Justice of Joseph Stalin
The Kindness of Fidel Castro
The Humanity of Pol Pot
The Tolerance of Ayatollah Khomeini
The Mercifulness of Robert Mugabe

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:16:48pm

Trump administration exporting our Nazis to Germany.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:19:28pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:21:19pm

re: #100 freetoken

“Duncan the Lesser.” Ha.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:21:46pm

re: #96 stpaulbear

Hilarious!!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:22:18pm
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stpaulbear  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:24:16pm

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

She seems very happy to be with everyone except her own family. Sad!

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:24:27pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:27:17pm
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Stanley Sea  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:28:59pm

re: #112 jaunte

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Appears that she has been sighted.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:31:29pm

re: #114 Stanley Sea

Appears that she has been sighted.

Eamon Javers could have asked for a proof-of-life photograph.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:33:07pm

re: #115 Anymouse 🌹

Eamon Javers could have asked for a proof-of-life photograph.

Is he the only reporter allowed in the West Wing?

You’d think that if someone from FOX or whatnot had seen her they’d be all over it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:36:29pm

He cites Kirsten Welker as also being there, but her own Twitter feed says nothing of the sort. Considering all the speculation, if Ms. Welker had been there, it would seem she might have said something about that.

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Skip Intro  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:37:59pm

re: #117 Anymouse 🌹

If she is really there it’s clear the sham marriage is over.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:40:04pm

Will the White House say why she isn’t going to the G7 conference or the NK summit?

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:42:51pm

Above the law.

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Belafon  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:47:12pm

The two special elections in Wisconsin that Walker delayed happen on the 12th: m.dailykos.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:48:48pm

Caution for auto-play video (which should die in a fire; it fouls up my Internet connexion):

Jared Kushner’s Father Rips Ethics Watchdogs As ‘Jerks’ Who Can’t Get A ‘Real Job’

“All they want to do is assure that poor, not successful people go into government.”

— —

Because of course the poor are not people, or at least shouldn’t be in government.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:50:04pm

Had a hell of a time opening this page. It just locked up. I closed the browser and opened a new one and it didn’t help. The culprit was a hard-to-close forever-loading google ad for petcomfort.com (actually 2 of them). I eventually got it closed and sent google a message. Needless to say, I will never, ever do business with this company. Since google is evil and doesn’t give a rat’s ass, the way to shut down these shitty, intrusive ads is to boycott any and all companies that use them.

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Interesting Times  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:51:37pm
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Jay C  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:53:45pm

re: #122 Anymouse 🌹

Caution for auto-play video (which should die in a fire; it fouls up my Internet connexion):

Jared Kushner’s Father Rips Ethics Watchdogs As ‘Jerks’ Who Can’t Get A ‘Real Job’

“All they want to do is assure that poor, not successful people go into government.”

— —

Because of course the poor are not people, or at least shouldn’t be in government.

Wonder who he’s referring to? His parole officers??

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 3, 2018 • 3:58:58pm

re: #125 Jay C

Wonder who he’s referring to? His parole officers??

He’s talking about the people who investigate the massive conflicts of interests Jared, Ivanka and Drumpf have. We should simply assume their good intentions and pay no attention to the massive wads of cash foreign governments and influence peddlers are shoving their way.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:01:58pm

I’m the last person in the world to indulge in conspiracy theories, but once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how bizarre, has to be true. Melania’s disappearance is such a thing, especially since it is continuing in the face of massive speculation and commentary.
I don’t think the Secret Service would cover up domestic violence, but there is no telling how Trump might have corrupted that agency along with everything else he touches. They may also be reluctant to act without definitive proof. It could even be that they are investigating in search of that proof right now.

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Stanley Sea  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:05:49pm

No words

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:05:59pm

Socialist Pedro Sanchez takes affirmation of office as new Prime Minister of Spain.

The overwhelmingly Catholic nation has an atheist for a leader.

bbc.com

(caution for auto-play video - gaaaa)

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freetoken  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:10:26pm

re: #127 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Earlier I wrote that I would hold off until she appears…

But, going back on my word, what strikes me as the most obvious guess is simply that Melania has had enough of her husband.

Melania herself may well be a racist (see birtherism), but still, how much can a woman take of the public exposé of her husband’s philandering?

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Skip Intro  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:10:39pm

re: #128 Stanley Sea

No words

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If that’s true then we are truly screwed.

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:11:00pm

re: #128 Stanley Sea

Rudy like most of DT’s lawyers has lost it.

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Skip Intro  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:11:50pm

re: #130 freetoken

She was also completely ridiculed for her BE whatever initiative. It was right after that she disappeared.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:12:05pm

re: #128 Stanley Sea

No words

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His flying monkeys are preparing the ground for a final power grab.
Incidentally, if the Secret Service did charge Trump with domestic violence, it would galvanize the Russian-incited incel/fundamentalist/conspira-liar axis to violent action on a massive scale.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:13:15pm

re: #131 Skip Intro

If that’s true then we are truly screwed.

It’s not true. It’s Giuliani’s assertion.

There is nothing in the Constitution that says a President cannot be tried for a crime.

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freetoken  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:14:09pm

re: #133 Skip Intro

Melania like Donald is all about show, no substance.

Melania is not able to do anything but be pretty. That was her job. That is why Trump hired her and then married her.

Beauty is the extent of her expertise.

So when called upon to do something substantive… it’s just not been there.

To the religious-right, for whom women are more akin to property as in the old days, this is fine for a woman to be there simply to be the whim of the husband.

But for the rest of society - we see this as something wrong.

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ObserverArt  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:14:43pm

re: #111 stpaulbear

She seems very happy to be with everyone except her own family. Sad!

I’m not happy with any of the Trumps, and I don’t have to be around them.

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Interesting Times  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:16:51pm

Evergreen tweet for modern times:

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:17:26pm

re: #134 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

His flying monkeys are preparing the ground for a final power grab.
Incidentally, if the Secret Service did charge Trump with domestic violence, it would galvanize the Russian-incited incel/fundamentalist/conspira-liar axis to violent action on a massive scale.

I’m not expecting a whole lot of resistance from the 101st Chairborne Warrior Division.

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ObserverArt  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:19:48pm

re: #131 Skip Intro

If that’s true then we are truly screwed.

That’s just Rudy talking out of his ass. His ass does a lot of that lately.

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The Major  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:21:03pm

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹

I’m not expecting a whole lot of resistance from the 101st Chairborne Warrior Division.

It’s not the “We eat chicken for lunch” battalion we have to worry about…..
It’s the ones who THINK they have the Jesus-anointed duty to take up arms against those who oppose Hair Furor….

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The Major  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:23:14pm

re: #140 ObserverArt

That’s just Rudy talking out of his ass. His ass does a lot of that lately.

Assy McGiuliani…

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The Major  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:30:06pm

re: #135 Anymouse 🌹

There is nothing in the Constitution that says a President cannot be tried for a crime.

Something tells me that SCOTUS will not get a chance to answer that question, even though they got as far as saying a sitting President can be brought before a grand jury to testify.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:31:15pm

THREAD

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freetoken  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:31:24pm

Malevolence and stupidity is a noxious combination to find in a person.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:31:27pm
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freetoken  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:32:38pm

re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth

Switzerland… what possibly could be found in Switzerland that the casinos of Nevada may import/export????

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Skip Intro  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:33:05pm

re: #135 Anymouse 🌹

It’s not true. It’s Giuliani’s assertion.

There is nothing in the Constitution that says a President cannot be tried for a crime.

But Ghouliani is putting it out there to Trump’s cult that it is true. These people are all as dangerous as hell.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:33:33pm

re: #147 freetoken

Switzerland… what possibly could be found in Switzerland that the casinos of Nevada may import/export????

Bank accounts.

/half

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:34:07pm

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹

I’m not expecting a whole lot of resistance from the 101st Chairborne Warrior Division.

Individually, they aren’t much but a cowardly mob can be disproportionately vicious when it believes it has the advantage. The mob would have to reach a certain critical mass, and focus, for that to happen. The combined authority of Trump, Alex Jones, and the pulpit pimps could provide that focus and drive it to that critical mass, with the NRA and the batshit church networks providing a degree of organization.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:35:43pm

re: #149 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Bank accounts.

/half

I was gonna go with chocolate, but bank accounts work too.

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Jay C  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:36:42pm

re: #147 freetoken

Switzerland… what possibly could be found in Switzerland that the casinos of Nevada may import/export????

Or Maryland and The UAE?

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Stanley Sea  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:36:58pm

re: #140 ObserverArt

That’s just Rudy talking out of his ass. His ass does a lot of that lately.

It is still worth noting. He is “atty for potus” be vigilant.

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freetoken  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:37:37pm

re: #152 Jay C

Or Maryland and The UAE?

I suspect that has to do with the aerospace/defense industries.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:38:33pm

re: #147 freetoken

Switzerland… what possibly could be found in Switzerland that the casinos of Nevada may import/export????

Vintage 1950’s Nestle’s Quik Commercial

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:41:13pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:43:03pm

re: #156 jaunte

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PhillyPretzel  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:43:15pm

re: #156 jaunte

I hate to say it but I knew he was a snake-oil salesman the first time I heard about him.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:44:35pm

re: #158 PhillyPretzel

It really gives you some perspective on the country overall when you realize he’s been a famous con man for decades and still got elected.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:44:59pm

“We never saw that coming!”

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Teukka  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:50:01pm

re: #159 jaunte

It really gives you some perspective on the country overall when you realize he’s been a famous con man for decades and still got elected.

There is this slur against conservatives which goes “CONservative. With emphasis on con.” Dunno the truth behind it.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:54:52pm

re: #159 jaunte

Trump got elected because he is a “KKKon-Man”

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dangerman  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:55:02pm

re: #112 jaunte

So this thing about Melania not being seen for a month…I know it’s funny to joke about but honestly, in what universe could a leader’s wife be absent for so long without explanation or given reason

This is not normal

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:56:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 4:58:35pm
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Dave In Austin  Jun 3, 2018 • 5:04:49pm

Holy Batwiz Batman!! We got us a hot new conspiracy theory!!

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Dave In Austin  Jun 3, 2018 • 5:06:53pm
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PhillyPretzel  Jun 3, 2018 • 5:07:05pm

re: #166 Dave In Austin

DT and his team are throwing everything out there to confuse almost everyone.

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dangerman  Jun 3, 2018 • 5:07:12pm

re: #131 Skip Intro

If that’s true then we are truly screwed.

It’s not. We’re fine
He’s nuts

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makeitstop  Jun 3, 2018 • 5:11:17pm

re: #110 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Looks like Mel’s the one in the family with the big hands. Hers are as big as Trudeau’s.

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fern01  Jun 3, 2018 • 5:12:27pm

re: #45 goddamnedfrank

I’d say they should declare Grenell persona non-grata and kick him the fuck out of the country, but he’s probably unintentionally helping Merkel due to Trump’s immense unpopularity in Germany.

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Probably a benefit to Australia that we don’t have a US Ambassador

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Dave In Austin  Jun 3, 2018 • 5:18:54pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 5:19:16pm

re: #45 goddamnedfrank

I’d say they should declare Grenell persona non-grata and kick him the fuck out of the country, but he’s probably unintentionally helping Merkel due to Trump’s immense unpopularity in Germany.

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I wouldn’t be surprised if Merkel recalls her Ambassador for consultations over this.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 3, 2018 • 5:24:47pm

I know what and where this is. and it’s utter horseshit.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 5:26:27pm

Now there is volcanic eruption in Guatemala that has killed several people…

bbc.com

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sagehen  Jun 3, 2018 • 5:27:21pm

re: #41 dangerman

Goes back to Watergate:
“I’m sorry senator, his recollection and my recollection are just not the same recollection”

Fun times

“That statement is no longer operative.”

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Skip Intro  Jun 3, 2018 • 5:33:38pm

Another good guy with a gun story.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 3, 2018 • 5:39:04pm

Oh Lord…… What have I done!! I ask for your forgiveness and mercy!!!

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 3, 2018 • 5:39:31pm

re: #177 Skip Intro

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Jay C  Jun 3, 2018 • 5:39:45pm

re: #166 Dave In Austin

Holy Batwiz Batman!! We got us a hot new conspiracy theory!!

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I wonder if they might figure that “the police aren’t investigating” because, ummm.. maybe there’s nothing to fucking investigate!???!!

And IIJM, but when I read “Craig Sawyer and his team of vets”, I immediately thought “veterinarians”??

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 5:44:39pm

re: #175 Joe Bacon 🌹

Now there is volcanic eruption in Guatemala that has killed several people…

bbc.com

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teleskiguy  Jun 3, 2018 • 5:45:09pm

Greatest pond skim ever.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 5:45:55pm

re: #174 Dave In Austin

Of course there could be child trafficking going on, and having a president announce that most Mexican immigrants are rapists and putting law enforcement on notice they should be suspicious of all brown people is exactly the wrong way to stop it.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 3, 2018 • 5:49:03pm

re: #183 jaunte

Most child traffickers aren’t tattoo covered Latino guys.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 5:51:49pm
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fern01  Jun 3, 2018 • 5:56:13pm

re: #115 Anymouse 🌹

Eamon Javers could should have asked for a proof-of-life photograph.

I trust zero WHPC pencil pushers - all they do is determined by trump. All they write is used to prop up the worst president* in history.

Probably someone walking around looking like Melania.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 5:56:46pm
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fern01  Jun 3, 2018 • 5:57:25pm

re: #120 jaunte

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Above the law.

Has been since he started campaigning. He is the law in the USA.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:02:35pm
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fern01  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:04:06pm

re: #130 freetoken

Earlier I wrote that I would hold off until she appears…

But, going back on my word, what strikes me as the most obvious guess is simply that Melania has had enough of her husband.

Melania herself may well be a racist (see birtherism), but still, how much can a woman take of the public exposé of her husband’s philandering?

Women have dealt with philandering husbands for years. What eventually wears them down is physical and mental abuse. I vote for the latter.

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teleskiguy  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:04:13pm

re: #105 DodgerFan1988

Honesty In Advertising
Germans Who Admit They Backed The Nazis
The Modesty of Milo Yiannopoulos
Facing The Reality of Everyday Living, by Dr. Timothy Leary
The Acting Talent of Nick Searcy

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:04:35pm
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sagehen  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:06:28pm

re: #182 teleskiguy

Greatest pond skim ever.

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So cool, so proficient, they don’t even need a boat to water-ski…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:06:30pm

so the secret Walmart FEMA camps are finally being used

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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:08:03pm

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

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That really is fucked up.

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fern01  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:08:41pm

re: #156 jaunte

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Is there an explanation as to why he does this with NK, but demands that Nato nations pay more for defence and stop sending their produce to the US.

He has turned world relationships upside turkey.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:09:16pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:11:27pm

This is so fucked up. I wonder if they’d let a GOP senator in?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:12:23pm

re: #191 teleskiguy

Honesty In Advertising
Germans Who Admit They Backed The Nazis
The Modesty of Milo Yiannopoulos
Facing The Reality of Everyday Living, by Dr. Timothy Leary
The Acting Talent of Nick Searcy

The Satirical Wit of Rush Limbaugh
Keeping it Cool with Alex Jones
Roger Ailes and Respecting Women
Original Thinking of Ben Shapiro
Egalitarianism and me, Tuckar Carlson

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:12:42pm

re: #198 Eclectic Cyborg

This is so fucked up. I wonder if they’d let a GOP senator in?

Only one they’d trust to keep their mouth shut.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:13:45pm

Gonna get shtankie in Brownsville tonite. Someone is going to lose their job(s)

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ObserverArt  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:13:59pm

re: #195 HappyWarrior

That really is fucked up.

It sure is, but I like the fact that Merkley is there making it a thing. Hopefully he can get the damn media to start really asking questions by getting more people seeing this being done in the name of the United States.

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teleskiguy  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:14:40pm

It’s from 2015, but I just saw it on Facebook.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:14:50pm

re: #202 ObserverArt

It sure is, but I like the fact that Merkley is there making it a thing. Hopefully he can get the damn media to start really asking questions by getting more people seeing this being done in the name of the United States.

Yes, definitely. I like Merkley.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:16:03pm

re: #203 teleskiguy

It’s from 2015, but I just saw it on Facebook.

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Ha! Man Colorado and Wyoming are night and day for states I’d like to visit. Colorado is one I really want to visit and Wyoming just seems meh to me though I’m sure it does have its beautiful parts.

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teleskiguy  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:17:26pm

True story.

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teleskiguy  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:18:36pm

re: #205 HappyWarrior

Wyoming’s northwest corner is one of the most beautiful parts of the United States.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:23:21pm
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mmmirele  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:23:30pm

re: #127 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’m the last person in the world to indulge in conspiracy theories, but once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how bizarre, has to be true. Melania’s disappearance is such a thing, especially since it is continuing in the face of massive speculation and commentary.
I don’t think the Secret Service would cover up domestic violence, but there is no telling how Trump might have corrupted that agency along with everything else he touches. They may also be reluctant to act without definitive proof. It could even be that they are investigating in search of that proof right now.

Well, except that apparently Richard Nixon punched Pat Nixon in 1974, sending her to the hospital. I didn’t remember it happening (and I was a news-savvy 14 YO at the time) and from the reactions of others to this news, apparently it was not reported. In fact, Seymour Hersh was chewed out by women at a Nieman Foundation fellows meeting for not reporting it.

But there’s an interesting moment that Hersh did not have to include. In 1974, he writes, Hersh heard that Nixon’s wife Pat was in hospital after being punched by her husband. It was not an isolated occasion. He did not report on the story, he told Nieman Foundation fellows in 1998, because it represented “a merging of private life and public life.” Nixon didn’t make policy decisions because of his bad marriage, went the argument. Hersh was “taken aback” by the response from women fellows, who pointed out that he had heard of a crime and not reported it. “All I could say,” Hersh writes, “is that at the time I did not—in my ignorance—view the incident as a crime.”

newrepublic.com

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Stanley Sea  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:23:46pm

Way OT. I love the British detective shows.

Amazing how the same actors appear. I don’t know them at all, but I recognize them.

Watching Collateral on Netflix. Saw the actor who played Peter Townsend on the Crown.

Now another guy, I’ve seen him before, not placing it yet. Going to have to imdb to figure this shit out.

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sagehen  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:24:25pm

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

They can’t let him in because it looks like this:

Buffy vs The Master (Alternate Universe) - Battle at the Blood Plant

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:24:31pm

re: #210 Stanley Sea

Way OT. I love the British detective shows.

Amazing how the same actors appear. I don’t know them at all, but I recognize them.

Watching Collateral on Netflix. Saw the actor who played Peter Townsend on the Crown.

Now another guy, I’ve seen him before, not placing it yet. Going to have to imdb to figure this shit out.

They usually joke that the BBC only has 10 actors. (Obviously not true, but they do reuse the same talent A LOT.)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:27:00pm
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freetoken  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:27:09pm

re: #187 Backwoods_Sleuth

My rule of thumb: Never believe a sensational headline in mass media, when it comes to new physics discoveries.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:27:41pm
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Stanley Sea  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:28:06pm

re: #210 Stanley Sea

Another The Crown Alum: Lord Altrincham (the actor’s name is John Heffernan)

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Stanley Sea  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:28:41pm

re: #212 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

They usually joke that the BBC only has 10 actors. (Obviously not true, but they do reuse the same talent A LOT.)

Bingo. It is amazing.

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CleverToad  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:31:43pm

re: #207 teleskiguy

Wyoming’s northwest corner is one of the most beautiful parts of the United States.

Very true.
Wyoming’s southeast corner, on the other hand, takes a long time to drive through on your way to the scenic bits.

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CleverToad  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:37:07pm

re: #217 Stanley Sea

Bingo. It is amazing.

It was a running game at the old Doctor Who cons, counting how many recycled BBC actors one could spot in a given episode. Extra points for multiple appearances on Who itself.

There was also the joke I heard more than one of the actors tell about the Beeb’s salary scale: “It enables me to afford the luxuries of life, like bread and shoes…”

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:37:56pm

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

So much for legislative oversight. So who precisely decides and enforces who may enter and inspect for lawful compliance?

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Skip Intro  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:39:03pm

re: #210 Stanley Sea

Way OT. I love the British detective shows.

Amazing how the same actors appear. I don’t know them at all, but I recognize them.

Watching Collateral on Netflix. Saw the actor who played Peter Townsend on the Crown.

Now another guy, I’ve seen him before, not placing it yet. Going to have to imdb to figure this shit out.

Sign up for Acorn and Britbox on Amazon. You’ll never run out of things to watch, at least I haven’t.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:39:12pm

re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

The executive branch is out of control.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:41:02pm

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth
re: #208 Backwoods_Sleuth

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

I once loved a song about bricks in a wall. Now I witness my birth nations dissolution of democracy a brick at a time.

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freetoken  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:41:26pm

re: #222 jaunte

The executive branch is out of control.

And Congress is AWOL.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:41:45pm

re: #222 jaunte

The executive branch is out of control.

And Congressional Republicans won’t lift a finger because Trump is packing the courts with every Nazi he can get his hands on!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:43:12pm

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

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TedStriker  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:48:44pm

re: #219 CleverToad

It was a running game at the old Doctor Who cons, counting how many recycled BBC actors one could spot in a given episode. Extra points for multiple appearances on Who itself.

There was also the joke I heard more than one of the actors tell about the Beeb’s salary scale: “It enables me to afford the luxuries of life, like bread and shoes…”

Love that stereotypical dry British wit.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:50:27pm

re: #219 CleverToad

It was a running game at the old Doctor Who cons, counting how many recycled BBC actors one could spot in a given episode. Extra points for multiple appearances on Who itself.

There was also the joke I heard more than one of the actors tell about the Beeb’s salary scale: “It enables me to afford the luxuries of life, like bread and shoes…”

Then there was that one time where they hired a former Doctor Who actor to be the Doctor himself…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:54:30pm

re: #228 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Then there was that one time where they hired a former Doctor Who actor to be the Doctor himself…

Treasured memory—Seeing Jon Pertwee and giving him a big hug. Jon said, “Do be careful! If you hug me too hard I’ll regenerate…”

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lawhawk  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:56:25pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

Because she wants to dress how she wants to dress, you fucking idiot.

Because she thinks she looks amazing and fierce and both rock their attire?

It’s hilarious listening to white hetero folks complaining about attire of others when the folks who are often the most put together and are style forward are members of the LGBT community.

Oh, and many LGBT are the ones who are creating fashion around the world…

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:57:34pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:58:54pm
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calochortus  Jun 3, 2018 • 6:59:46pm

re: #230 lawhawk

Because she thinks she looks amazing and fierce and both rock their attire?

It’s hilarious listening to white hetero folks complaining about attire of others when the folks who are often the most put together and are style forward are members of the LGBT community.

Oh, and many LGBT are the ones who are creating fashion around the world…

See? We’ll all be seduced into being gay by fashion. Then where will this formerly great nation be?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:01:55pm

re: #233 calochortus

See? We’ll all be seduced into being gay by fashion. Then where will this formerly great nation be?

Fabulous?

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:02:30pm

re: #232 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Come on, Charles, what could POSSIBLY go wrong?!?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:03:01pm

shit stirring happening in Portland.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:07:53pm
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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:09:35pm
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stpaulbear  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:12:40pm

re: #230 lawhawk

…Oh, and many LGBT are the ones who are creating fashion around the world…

I can tell you that I’m not one of them. Now that I’ve lost some weight I’m starting to wear shirts that have been at the back of my closet for 10 years.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:13:46pm
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freetoken  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:14:01pm

re: #232 Charles Johnson

The stupid part of that article is that implies that Jared’s slow security clearance was the result of backlogs.

Like, no, that’s now how it works.

Clearances, and investigations, can be given priorities. Which is why in previous Administrations, people new to government but highly placed could get their clearances.

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freetoken  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:15:38pm

And after 9/11, the number of people with TS and higher clearances was cut significantly.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:16:21pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:16:32pm

re: #240 jaunte

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stpaulbear  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:18:46pm

re: #192 Backwoods_Sleuth

MoveOn

@MoveOn
The Brownsville TX detention center was kind enough to give us this number:[no phone numbers allowed] to call for a statement re: why @SenJeffMerkley cannot enter the building and see the children.

Gee, I wonder how busy that phone number is going to be tomorrow? Good on them for publishing the number.

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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:21:21pm

When Clinton was President FEMA camps were fiction. With Trump in office, holding pens for separated children, kids that were NOT unaccompanied minors exist, but only in secret. Last time I looked Senators could walk into Gitmo, or any Federal prison. By what authority do they deny an oversight inspection?

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Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:26:01pm
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freetoken  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:26:57pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:27:55pm

re: #247 Charles Johnson

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:27:57pm

re: #246 Unshaken Defiance

This is shocking. Migrants are being treated as criminals by the Trump administration. What is I.C.E. hiding? I’m hoping that other Democrats follow in Senator Merkley’s footsteps.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:30:00pm

There is absolutely no reason for a detention center for children separated from asylum seeker parents to be treated like a top secret black site.

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freetoken  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:31:29pm

As someone who is more and more appreciating libraries and archives, I too find it discomforting that there will be not official Obama Presidential library, but a private one.

However, the inner dystopian in me wonders if Obama is signaling that he believes the functioning of the Executive Branch is going to be so tainted going forward that even the US Archives is going to fall into the hands of the atavists.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:33:25pm
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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:38:06pm
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TedStriker  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:40:12pm

re: #240 jaunte

re: #251 jaunte

There is absolutely no reason for a detention center for children separated from asylum seeker parents to be treated like a top secret black site.

It’s revolting to think that some of what allegedly went on (and still goes on) at “black sites” is going on right now at these ICE detention centers, because you know it’s fucking happening.

Why else would they deny entry to a fucking sitting US Senator, unless there’s a lot of really bad shit they don’t want to see the light of day?

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Renaissance_Man  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:41:57pm

re: #255 TedStriker

It’s revolting to think that some of what allegedly went on (and still goes on) at “black sites” is going on right now at these ICE detention centers, because you know it’s fucking happening.

Why else would they deny entry to a fucking sitting US Senator, unless there’s a lot of really bad shit they don’t want to see the light of day?

Because he’s a Democrat, and thus not an American. He’s the enemy.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:42:12pm

re: #255 TedStriker

Watching that video I see a bunch of scared low-level functionaries afraid to do anything but deny entry because anything else and they’ll be out of a job tomorrow.

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freetoken  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:43:11pm

Given that our society just recently put a “Museum of the Bible” right in the government’s center, whose function is to proselytize for a particular religion, I wonder how much libraries and archives will really mean anymore.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:49:15pm
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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 7:52:20pm
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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:06:49pm

Nearly forgot:

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:07:16pm

re: #261 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

I’m not going to lie, I am completely missing the reference.

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freetoken  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:08:03pm

re: #262 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

pop song back when we were younger.

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retired cynic  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:08:04pm

re: #262 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m not going to lie, I am completely missing the reference.

You are not as old as we are.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:08:55pm

Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte lashed out Sunday at another U.N. human rights expert for making critical remarks about his supposed role in the expulsion of the chief justice, telling him “to go to hell.”

Duterte dismissed the remarks of Diego Garcia-Sayan and told him not to meddle in domestic problems. Duterte was replying to a reporter’s question before flying on a visit to South Korea.

“Tell him not to interfere with the affairs of my country. He can go to hell,” Duterte said in a late-night televised news conference. “He is not a special person and I do not recognize his rapporteur title.”

Garcia-Sayan told reporters in Manila on Thursday that the unprecedented ouster of Maria Lourdes Sereno as chief justice after Duterte lambasted her in public is an attack on judicial independence that could put Philippine democracy at risk.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:09:45pm

re: #262 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m not going to lie, I am completely missing the reference.

It was the third of June, another sleepy, dusty Delta day
I was out choppin’ cotton, and my brother was balin’ hay
And at dinner time we stopped and walked back to the house to eat
And mama hollered out the back door, y’all, remember to wipe your feet…

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:11:28pm

re: #262 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Just a small Southern Gothic tale in song form.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:11:40pm

re: #264 retired cynic

You are not as old as we are.

I am not. Although I have some familiarity with the classics.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:12:41pm

re: #262 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

I’m not going to lie, I am completely missing the reference.

Bobbie Gentry - Ode To Billie Joe

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teleskiguy  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:15:34pm

I went full metal Godwin on Twitter today.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:16:28pm

re: #270 teleskiguy

I went full metal Godwin on Twitter today.

[Embedded content]

Dude, no, you never go full Godwin. Yes, even though they’re literal Nazis.

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stpaulbear  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:18:15pm

Haha. Good for this kid.

LOUISVILLE — Bell County High School student and valedictorian Ben Bowling wanted to share some words of wisdom with his graduating class, but there was a twist that no one saw coming.

“This is the part of my speech where I share some inspirational quotes I found on Google,” Bowling said in his speech. “‘Don’t just get involved. Fight for your seat at the table. Better yet, fight for a seat at the head of the table.’ — Donald J. Trump.”

The crowd burst into applause.

“Just kidding,” Bowling said. “That was Barack Obama.”

The 18-year-old valedictorian said the crowd quickly went silent.

“The crowd erupted in applause and before they could even finish clapping I said I was kidding and the applause quickly died,” Bowling said.

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teleskiguy  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:18:51pm

re: #271 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Dude, no, you never go full Godwin. Yes, even though they’re literal Nazis.

Godwin himself rescinded the rule.

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jaunte  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:19:00pm

re: #269 Backwoods_Sleuth

My wife escaped from Tupelo about thirty years ago. It’s everything the song suggests.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:20:11pm

re: #273 teleskiguy

Godwin himself rescinded the rule.

[Embedded content]

Jesus Christ, reality just jumped the shark.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:20:22pm
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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:21:21pm

re: #250 Patricia Kayden

This is shocking. Migrants are being treated as criminals by the Trump administration. What is I.C.E. hiding? I’m hoping that other Democrats follow in Senator Merkley’s footsteps.

Imma call both their offices tomorrow and try to get Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell to go down there together. See if they shut out two women senators….

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CleverToad  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:25:11pm

re: #277 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

Imma call both their offices tomorrow and try to get Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell to go down there together. See if they shut out two women senators….

Make sure there is at least one Senator and several staff members in the landing party who speak fluent Spanish and can talk directly to the kids.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:26:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:27:23pm

re: #278 CleverToad

Make sure there is at least one Senator and several staff members in the landing party who speak fluent Spanish and can talk directly to the kids.

Sen. Tim Kaine would do it.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:27:38pm

re: #273 teleskiguy

Godwin himself rescinded the rule.

[Embedded content]

He never said don’t do it, anyway—he just said sooner or later it’s bound to happen.

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teleskiguy  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:30:44pm

re: #275 Quoth the raven, Covfefe.

Jesus Christ, reality just jumped the shark.

This is supposedly Hunter S. Thompson’s epitaph:

It never got weird enough for me.

If only he was still around today (he’d be 80 years old).

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stpaulbear  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:30:52pm

re: #269 Backwoods_Sleuth

There are only about a dozen songs that are in my Amazon Cloud library because I actually paid for the download (there are another 3000 that are there because I bought a CD that included a free download). Ode To Billie Joe is one of them. I LOVE that song.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:33:18pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:34:07pm

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

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teleskiguy  Jun 3, 2018 • 8:34:44pm

I heard this dude promoting Aspen Public Radio on the way to work this morning. My favorite skier, a stone cold badass that has skied the scariest shit you can ever imagine.

He also follows me on Twitter, has for a few years. :)

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delilah  Jun 4, 2018 • 7:39:00am

re: #52 Patricia Kayden

It was other people’s questions and comments that sparked my curiosity.

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delilah  Jun 4, 2018 • 7:39:49am

re: #22 Anymouse 🌹

Thanks. Sorry for disappearing yesterday. I was called away.


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