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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jun 6, 2018 • 5:51:34pm

Does anyone have a clip of any of them telling the truth? Just once?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 6, 2018 • 5:53:07pm

re: #1 A hollow voice says, Covfefe.

Does anyone have a clip of any of them telling the truth? Just once?

That would be this administration’s version of the Whitey Tape.

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JordanRules  Jun 6, 2018 • 5:58:26pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 6, 2018 • 5:59:19pm
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jaunte  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:03:10pm
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JordanRules  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:11:04pm
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SteelPH  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:13:17pm

re: #6 JordanRules

Totally the actions of an innocent man.
//

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:14:02pm

Hmmm.

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MsJ  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:16:22pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:17:26pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:17:33pm

re: #3 JordanRules

Sigh. So now we have to look forward to racist incidents at a World Cup. Oh joy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:18:19pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:19:16pm
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ObserverArt  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:19:33pm

re: #7 SteelPH

Totally the actions of an innocent man.
//

Yeah, sounds like something someone would do if they are getting ready to move.

To Russia.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:20:13pm

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Feckless wanker.

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JordanRules  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:22:47pm

Thread…

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:23:09pm

Just got back, the weather here is about to go down the tubes.

wunderground.com

Watches and warnings all over the area. The main storm line is centered east and west along I-80. Sidney is getting pounded, and a very severe thunderstorm is moving SW across the Nebr.-Colo. line into Colorado.

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EPR-radar  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:27:13pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

The GOP proceeds with its anti-science and anti-reality agenda, while the both-siderists in the media do endless analyses of Trump voters.

Actually, I don’t need to see what passes for ‘thought’ in the minds of the residents of SisterDaughterfuck, Nowhere, whose family trees loop more than they branch. Once really is much more than enough for this kind of thing.

Trump is a lying corrupt racist sexist pig whose campaign was essentially “Trump that bitch”, and his supporters were fine with that.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:27:40pm

re: #3 JordanRules

Danny Rose has spoken out on the racism black players are set to face in Russia, after FIFA only recently fined the Russian FA £22,000 for racist chants.

Well said, Danny. 👏👏👏 pic.twitter.com

This surprises someone? Isn’t FIFA universally acknowledged to be the most corrupt sports related agency on the planet, other than anything associated with Russia of course.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:29:40pm
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JordanRules  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:30:08pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:30:29pm

Picked up some craft beer in town today, from the world-famous craft brewing area of Broken Bow, Nebr.

(Jalapeño porter)

Reviews after I’ve had some.

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The Vicious Babushka  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:31:17pm

TOTALLY A MAN OF GOD IF YOU WORSHIP KHORNE (NOT HOLY ENOUGH FOR CTHULHU THO’)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:32:27pm
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goddamnedfrank  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:34:31pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:34:41pm

whippoorwill just calling and calling and calling on the front porch.

it’s driving the kittehs crazier than usual.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:35:38pm

re: #25 goddamnedfrank

r/incel before it was banned, or r/The_Donald

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jaunte  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:35:52pm

re: #25 goddamnedfrank

They’re going to put the psycho AI in those mechanical dogs next, aren’t they.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:36:03pm
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MsJ  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:36:09pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

Feckless wanker cunt.

Just sayin’.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:36:37pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:37:07pm

re: #25 goddamnedfrank

MIT scientists created a “psychopath” AI by feeding it violent content from Reddit trib.al

I was just about to post that.
People really need to got to the article, if just to see the responses to various ink blot, compared to the responses from a “sane” AI

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:37:53pm

oh dear

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jaunte  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:39:47pm

re: #32 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

“Man gets pulled into dough machine”

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Skip Intro  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:40:17pm

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh dear

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Hannity is finally getting the face he deserves.

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Ace-o-aces  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:40:19pm
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jaunte  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:41:48pm

Our president needs a brain.

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jaunte  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:42:33pm

Hurricane watching in our boats, like you do.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:46:56pm

Thunderstorms rapidly forming all around my town (the cross hairs in the NE of the map).

The area along the Nebr-Colo state line is all severe thunderstorm warnings.

A nice evening.
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MsJ  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:47:12pm
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Ace-o-aces  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:47:19pm
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jaunte  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:49:04pm

re: #40 MsJ

“Trump Jr.’s habit of lying and the possible legal jeopardy that comes it appears to be weighing heavily on the minds of book publishers.”

LOL

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ObserverArt  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:49:44pm

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Heh. Reminds me of the one time in a deep snow, I high-centered the front end of my VW GTi in snow packed up by a plow in a shopping center drive. Front wheel drive…no go anywhere. Lucky the plow guys were still there. They hooked a tow rope to the tie down rings at the back of my car and got me on my way.

Poor doggo.

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MsJ  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:50:00pm

re: #42 jaunte

“Trump Jr.’s habit of lying and the possible legal jeopardy that comes it appears to be weighing heavily on the minds of book publishers.”

LOL

I was thinking a work of fiction, but, nah. Not worth the hassle.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:50:11pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:51:55pm

re: #43 ObserverArt

Heh. Reminds me of the one time in a deep snow, I high-centered the front end of my VW GTi in snow packed up by a plow in a shopping center drive. Front wheel drive…no go anywhere. Lucky the plow guys were still there. They hooked a tow rope to the tie down rings at the back of my car and got me on my way.

Poor doggo.

I did the same in Cheyenne a couple years ago. It snowed overnight while we were in a motel. The next day I tried to drive the car out and high-centered it on the berm created by the city snowplow.

The manager came out and pushed our car off.

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sagehen  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:54:15pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:54:18pm
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ObserverArt  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:57:19pm

re: #42 jaunte

“Trump Jr.’s habit of lying and the possible legal jeopardy that comes it appears to be weighing heavily on the minds of book publishers.”

LOL

Could be a new classification of book.

Autobiographical fiction.

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Varek Raith  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:58:06pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

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Dun dundun dun dun.

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Targetpractice  Jun 6, 2018 • 6:59:09pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

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Scientists create Skynet just to see if a psycho AI hooked up to nuclear missiles would lead to a negative outcome.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:01:34pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:02:16pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

Tech folks are trying to kill us.

Amazon and eBay pull CloudPets smart toys from sale (Goes to the BBC, more at the link)

I’m tellin’ y’all, a rotary dial telephone is the way to go.

Amazon and eBay are among retailers pulling a brand of cuddly smart toys from sale after warnings they pose a cyber-security threat.

Concerns were raised about CloudPets products in February 2017 after it was discovered that millions of owners’ voice recordings were being stored online unprotected.

Manufacturer Spiral Toys claimed to have taken “swift action”.

But subsequent research commissioned by Mozilla found other vulnerabilities.

The devices’ California-based maker has not responded to requests for comment.

One independent expert told the BBC it was “great to see retailers acting responsibly”, but added she wished they had done so sooner.

“It seems that refusing to sell products that threaten customers’ security and privacy is the only way to make designers and manufacturers of these products care about these risks,” said Angela Sasse, professor of human-centred technology at University College London.

“The fact that Mozilla had to shame the retailers into this action, more than a year after vulnerabilities were first discovered, is not great.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:03:53pm
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fern01  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:06:24pm

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

Why - for any reason - would someone who lost a presidential election 18 months ago - hold a news conference.

His supporters are bigger morons than the man himself.

Edit: woops - I didn’t see the date on the tweet - I need a trump break

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gocart mozart  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:07:16pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:07:59pm

re: #55 fern01

Why - for any reason - would someone who lost a presidential election 18 months ago - hold a news conference.

His supporters are bigger morons than the man himself.

the yam’s tweet was in 2016, Obama was still President.

(I had a heavy sigh while writing that sentence…)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:09:24pm
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William Lewis  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:11:14pm

re: #56 gocart mozart

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Snort. Anyone who has ever read his stuff knows how conservative Peters is. To listen to him rip on Faux is a bit of joy even if he’s still the same as ever.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:11:56pm
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JordanRules  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:12:19pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Such a contrast to that other league.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:13:12pm
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:13:45pm

re: #56 gocart mozart

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:14:09pm
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Teukka  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:15:21pm

re: #56 gocart mozart

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From one of the replies downthread…

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William Lewis  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:15:43pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

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But wouldn’t that require real journalists to show up?

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JordanRules  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:16:19pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:17:18pm
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Skip Intro  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:18:07pm

re: #66 William Lewis

But wouldn’t that require real journalists to show up?

And they’re all dead.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:20:08pm
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JordanRules  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:21:03pm

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh dear

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Just want to come back around to this and mention that it’s insane.
Insane!

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Teukka  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:22:05pm

re: #33 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh dear

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The thing is, smashing the phone won’t necessarily destroy the evidence in the chips. Not to mention the legal implications of them feds lifting incriminating information off of devices someone has attempted to destroy…
*slow clap*

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:23:49pm
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Charles Johnson  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:24:24pm
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Unshaken Defiance  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:24:29pm

Off topic.
Not sure how many of our hard core tech / coder people are in tonight, anyway today I got to have a conversation with a guy that studied and lectures on internet and computer security. I got him to talk to me about individual security rather than his usual corporate or agency perspective. Coolest thing was ridding myself of a myth or two about who the likely bad guys are and getting some ideas of how to lock down at home on a budget. For one thing watch the brands, avoid Chinese / cheapo. Get the better hub/switch/modem. Use features like closing unused ports and access routes. If we all did that the whole net would be more secure. It sounds quaint to frame this on a common persons civil defense level. But that was my takeaway.

There was an un nerving side, we are terribly vulnerable to nation state level attacks on a surprising variety of things. Obviously we have good people on it and massive budgets involved. The internet of things and all these Alexa type features are opening holes faster than the best good guys can catch up. It’s too much like the perception of autonomous cars being so far ahead of reality. It’s not safe yet.

Fun topic-Why edge is both a very secure quality browser and a crappy way to view a lot of sites like LGF. So many things inside it are tightened down that it interferes with nice features. Like uploading images.

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Belafon  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:24:46pm

My middle son is a high school graduate!!

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whitebeach  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:25:57pm

re: #17 Anymouse 🌹

Just got back, the weather here is about to go down the tubes.

wunderground.com

Watches and warnings all over the area. The main storm line is centered east and west along I-80. Sidney is getting pounded, and a very severe thunderstorm is moving SW across the Nebr.-Colo. line into Colorado.

See ya and raise. About half an hour ago emergency vehicles are pulling up at houses all along my road. They get here. I go out and it’s a fire department guy. Just a little gas leak in the neighborhood, he says. I ask, you mean at that natural gas wellhead and compressing facility around the curve about five hundred yards from here? Yeah, he says, but we don’t think it’s very serious. Just shelter in place. For now.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:27:14pm
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Teukka  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:28:12pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:30:57pm

heh

but Justin is the adult, so he wouldn’t say that…

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:31:15pm

re: #70 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yikes. That storm in NE Colorado is seventy-odd miles south of me. That would probably be the storms around Sterling, now moving into Kimball, Nebr.

Man, I haven’t even got my roof fixed from the last tornado. I don’t need grapefruit-sized hail on top of that.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:31:44pm
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JordanRules  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:31:44pm
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jaunte  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:31:48pm

The Trumps are very interested in adoption, so they should be able to relate to this.
/infinity/

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:31:56pm
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A Mom Anon  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:33:11pm

I have a teeny question….how do we get all the shit back they’ve stolen from us? Either we have an effective justice system or not. I’m so broken hearted and discouraged, sad and scared.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:36:02pm

The Dairy Queens here in Texas now give you a straw with 1/2” wide with their milkshakes.

I’m here to say that once that thing goes in your mouth, it doesn’t come out until it’s gone. Good Lord, the scary thing about that is someone thought that up….

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JordanRules  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:37:22pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:38:57pm
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gocart mozart  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:39:19pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:39:48pm

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:41:09pm

re: #86 A Mom Anon

I have a teeny question….how do we get all the shit back they’ve stolen from us? Either we have an effective justice system or not. I’m so broken hearted and discouraged, sad and scared.

An effective justice system takes time to work. The maladministration is running a smash-and-grab operation, which works much faster.

Robert Mueller, the New York AG, other AGs who may also be investigating but are not getting attention, are gathering their evidence.

When those investigations conclude, they will either have enough to go to trial (where the government can try to claw back at least part of what’s grifted), or their isn’t enough evidence.

And that last part is the part that too many people are ignoring: Just because there is an investigation, and just because a lot of people seem to be going to jail, doesn’t mean there is proof the guy on top is connected.

Republicans have been at this all my life. Nixon’s folk went to jail, but Nixon did not. GW had people carted off to prison, but GW didn’t go. Reagan set the record for people going to jail, but Reagan didn’t go.

Busting a president is hard, and they work to maintain Reagan’s “plausible deniability.”

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calochortus  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:41:50pm

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This is life at our house. We have an ant book. Actually we probably have more than one. And Mr. C. does ant surveys* at a local preserve.

*I always hope it will involve getting ant opinions, but so far it has just been more of a census or count.

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JordanRules  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:43:19pm

Pretty disappointed that I was too young to see this, even knowing it probably wasn’t good.

The name alone is just delicious!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:43:21pm

re: #93 calochortus

This is life at our house. We have an ant book. Actually we probably have more than one. And Mr. C. does ant surveys* at a local preserve.

*I always hope it will involve getting ant opinions, but so far it has just been more of a census or count.

I’m always fascinated watching the ants going out stopping and touching base with the ants coming back.
Every single ant. Every single time.

Just amazing.

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JordanRules  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:45:03pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:45:20pm

re: #94 JordanRules

Pretty disappointed that I was too young to see this, even knowing it probably wasn’t good.

The name alone is just delicious!

Hint: It stunk. It lasted half a year.

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jaunte  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:45:42pm

re: #96 JordanRules

What about non compliance is a death sentence?

The melanin part?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:46:00pm
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calochortus  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:47:02pm

re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m always fascinated watching the ants going out stopping and touching base with the ants coming back.
Every single ant. Every single time.

Just amazing.

They are aren’t they. We have some native ants (as opposed to the evil Argentine ants) that are active during the cooler, damper weather and then go several feet underground to sit out the hot dry summer. This spring these ants (not surprisingly known as “winter ants”) were busy harvesting bits of rose petals from the buds on one of my roses. Apparently they will be bedding down on rose petals this summer. How could I try to stop them from that?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:47:24pm
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JordanRules  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:48:11pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:50:34pm

Hmmm On the Last Word, there was speculation that the only reason Donald granted Kim Kardashian’s request to commute the life sentence of the grandmother is that the grandmother was convicted of money laundering, one of Manafort’s crimes. I’m skeptical of this — it was just granting another celebrity a favor, but maybe it was another signal to Paul that Trump has his back.

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Teukka  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:51:00pm

re: #79 Teukka

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plansbandc  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:51:22pm

re: #21 JordanRules

Isn’t that just fucking pathetic? What have we become?

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JordanRules  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:52:27pm
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jaunte  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:55:08pm

re: #78 Charles Johnson

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JordanRules  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:55:58pm

re: #103 Hecuba’s daughter

Hmmm On the Last Word, there was speculation that the only reason Donald granted Kim Kardashian’s request to commute the life sentence of the grandmother is that the grandmother was convicted of money laundering, one of Manafort’s crimes. I’m skeptical of this — it was just granting another celebrity a favor, but maybe it was another signal to Paul that Trump has his back.

I feel like they’ve already given P-Man enough hints.
Seems like a reach to me too.
He’s rewarding Kim & Kanye for helping his popularity with ‘the blacks’ which he apparently told her in their meeting.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:55:59pm
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TedStriker  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:58:07pm

re: #94 JordanRules

Pretty disappointed that I was too young to see this, even knowing it probably wasn’t good.

The name alone is just delicious!

Jeff Goldblum and Ben Vereen.

Wow…

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 7:58:34pm

Food for thought.

Take a tour of the female pelvis, and you’ll encounter a few incongruous people along the way. How did James Douglas end up tucked behind the uterus? What is Gabriel Fallopian doing hanging around the ovaries? Why is Caspar Bartholin the Younger attached to the labia? And can we trust Ernst Grafenberg’s claim that he actually found the G-spot? Whether you know it or not, each of these dudes have ended up immortalised in the female pelvis - as the Pouch of Douglas, Bartholin’s glands, fallopian tubes, and that elusive Grafenberg spot.

The truth is, men are all over women’s bodies - dead, white male anatomists, that is. Their names live on eponymously, immortalised like audacious explorers for conquering the geography of the female pelvis as if it were terra nullius.

(more)
bbc.com
“How Women’s Body Parts Have Been Named after Men”

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JordanRules  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:01:19pm

re: #110 TedStriker

Jeff Goldblum and Ben Vereen.

Wow…

Right!?!?! I want them to do a dective show/movie now! LOL

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:05:04pm

Please notice in the clip she does NOT say

the following people don’t deserve an apology.. 1. Ted Cruz and All Men

Yashir Ali apparently likes to make up stuff.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:05:09pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:05:25pm

re: #94 JordanRules

Pretty disappointed that I was too young to see this, even knowing it probably wasn’t good.

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The name alone is just delicious!

Remember watching the pilot and it was the usual Steve Cannell show.

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garzooma  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:06:32pm

This is amusing: Jeff Sessions on Obama abusing the pardon power:

Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) called the Obama administration’s decision to allow nonviolent drug convicts to apply for presidential clemency “an alarming abuse of the pardon power.”

Anyone ask him how he feels about Trump pardoning a drug offender that Obama’s Justice Department rejected?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:07:52pm
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Mattand  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:12:46pm

Just got back from seeing Nathaniel Rateliff and the Night Sweats at the Mann Music Center in Philly. If you ever get the chance, go see them. Excellent show.

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JordanRules  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:13:41pm

re: #116 garzooma

This is amusing: Jeff Sessions on Obama abusing the pardon power:

Anyone ask him how he feels about Trump pardoning a drug offender that Obama’s Justice Department rejected?

Trump has the power so it’s just de facto good.

Plus, Kim K!!!! Yay!!! ////

*wretch*

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:14:04pm

MormonLeaks (which documents shady things going on in the LDS church) drops documents showing that the Mormon Church owns thirteen investment companies which reported an aggregate of $13 Billion in the stock market last year.

mormonleaks.io

The companies were required to fill in special paperwork for companies that have $100 million or more in assets.

While the LDS Church is probably the most capitalistic church in the USA (for example, it owns the land under Utah’s largest mall, meaning they don’t pay taxes on the land because they are a church), almost all churches are the same: They are not required to report their assets or profits.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:15:07pm

re: #120 Anymouse 🌹

MormonLeaks (which documents shady things going on in the LDS church) drops documents showing that the Mormon Church owns thirteen investment companies which reported an aggregate of $13 Billion in the stock market last year.

mormonleaks.io

The companies were required to fill in special paperwork for companies that have $100 million or more in assets.

While the LDS Church is probably the most capitalistic church in the USA (for example, it owns the land under Utah’s largest mall, meaning they don’t pay taxes on the land because they are a church), almost all churches are the same: They are not required to report their assets or profits.

Another reason why it’s time to tax the churches!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:15:40pm
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EPR-radar  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:17:14pm

In a bit of local election news, the Persky recall passed. Persky was the judge in the Brock Turner case (very light sentence for a Stanford swimmer convicted of sexual assault).

The recall campaigns pro and con were the main circus acts in the local news for months beforehand, and both side were disappointing. The pro-recall side argued that Persky had a pattern of bias in favor of white wealthy defendants, but the evidence for this pattern was somewhere between nil and minimal. The anti-recall side couldn’t content themselves with just poking holes in that nonsense. They accused a pro-recall leader of pulling some kind of media stunt involving suspicious received mail (powder of some kind, IIRC), but later news of police reports on this subject undercut this claim severely. And who in their right mind in the state of CA would hire a political consulting outfit that had worked for the Trump campaign in AZ, as the anti-recall effort did?

The circus didn’t affect my thinking very much. IMO the Turner case was a travesty, and I’m perfectly comfortable with ‘one strike and you’re out’ for a real travesty.

I’m surprised by the margin (about 60/40 in early reports), especially since this was a primary election with (presumably) reduced turnout in the demographics most likely to favor recall.

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JordanRules  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:22:02pm

re: #115 Joe Bacon 🌹

Remember watching the pilot and it was the usual Steve Cannell show.

I remember the Steve Cannell typewriter so well.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:22:07pm

re: #120 Anymouse 🌹

Correction. Those thirteen companies have $32 Billion in assets.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:22:17pm

re: #117 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sarah Palin

@SarahPalinUSA
Trump-Backed Republican Candidate for Governor of Calif. Just WON. Let That Sink In For A Minute conservativecash.us
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Actually, it is disappointing that the Dems didn’t get the top 2 positions and shut out the Republicans entirely. I heard that Gavin was targeting the Democratic opponent who could challenge him; if true, that is very unfortunate because having a Republican in the race will help the GOP turnout. OTOH, I’m not a fan at all of the California jungle primary system. So I guess I’m being inconsistent.

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freetoken  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:22:51pm

re: #102 JordanRules

earthquake.usgs.gov

There was also a 5.5 yesterday in the same area.

All the movement of lava is causing the larger volcano go move bits and pieces around.

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freetoken  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:23:23pm

re: #126 Hecuba’s daughter

Note that the GOP was shut out of the US Senate race, and the Lt. Gov. position.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:24:51pm

re: #121 Joe Bacon 🌹

Another reason why it’s time to tax the churches!

Former Nebraska governor Dave Heineman (R) floated a proposal to assess property taxes on religious property. (I almost fainted that came from a Republican.)

The howl went up across the state from Wyoming to Iowa. He kept at his tax plan for about a week, but every religious person in the state, regardless of faith, was prepared to hang him from a lamppost in Lincoln.

He not only backed down, he apologised to the churches.

(The Lutheran Church in my town owns about one-eighth of the land, taking one-eighth of the town off the tax rolls.)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:25:22pm

re: #128 freetoken

Note that the GOP was shut out of the US Senate race, and the Lt. Gov. position.

What was pleasing was seeing the Berniebot/Jillshill candidate for Lt. Gov only get 3% of the vote.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:26:01pm

re: #128 freetoken

Note that the GOP was shut out of the US Senate race, and the Lt. Gov. position.

Same thing happened in 2016 when Kamala Harris won — both Senatorial candidates were Democratic.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:27:34pm

I couldn’t stop chuckling when I saw “Danny Thomas” in the #2 position on my ballot for Lt. Governor…

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Jay C  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:28:29pm

re: #126 Hecuba’s daughter

Actually, it is disappointing that the Dems didn’t get the top 2 positions and shut out the Republicans entirely. I heard that Gavin was targeting the Democratic opponent who could challenge him; if true, that is very unfortunate because having a Republican in the race will help the GOP turnout. OTOH, I’m not a fan at all of the California jungle primary system. So I guess I’m being inconsistent.

Yet, OTOH, wouldn’t having a Dem and a GOPer in the race prod turnout from both sides? Especially if the CA Party has their act together and backs (and finances) Dem candidates all across the slate (and the state). Yeah, shutting Republicans out entirely is seldom bad thing, but it still doesn’t look like California’s “blue” status is going to be in jeopardy any time soon. “Jungle primary” (of which I’m not too impressed with, either) notwithstanding.

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freetoken  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:29:01pm

re: #129 Anymouse 🌹

It’s the single biggest method of the subsidizing of magical thinking - by excluding assets from taxation merely on the basis of magical thinking.

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Jay C  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:30:26pm

re: #130 Joe Bacon 🌹

What was pleasing was seeing the Berniebot/Jillshill candidate for Lt. Gov only get 3% of the vote.

As much as 3%?
In California, no less?
I guess in the context of “Bernie or Bust”, it’s looking like “Bust” is the clear winner…..

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:31:38pm

re: #135 Jay C

As much as 3%?
I guess in the context of “Bernie or Bust”, it’s looking like “Bust” is the clear winner…..

yeah, Gayle McLaughlin only got 3.6% of the vote…

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:31:57pm

Man the weather is getting really crappy. Thunder is shaking the house.
wunderground.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:32:08pm

re: #28 jaunte

They’re going to put the psycho AI in those mechanical dogs next, aren’t they.

Translator - SNL

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freetoken  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:37:00pm

re: #137 Anymouse 🌹

Flash flood watch south of you: radar.weather.gov

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:41:26pm

re: #137 Anymouse 🌹

At night the storm chasers get some good lightning shots.

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freetoken  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:43:47pm

Update on the SBC scandal: Patterson still looks like he wants to preach the big sermon. His adulators are pumping out excuses left and right for him.

Meanwhile, one of his installed profs is pushing an anti-gay agenda at the coming conference, as this person points out:

They want the Southern Baptists to explicitly endorse gay conversion therapies:

(see several points on page 2.)

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:44:36pm

Bavaria implements law to hang crosses in all government buildings.

dw.com (Deutsche Welle)

Starting on Friday, nearly all state authorities in Bavaria are required to have a cross hanging in their foyers — meaning that anyone turning in their taxes, reporting something to a police station, or entering an administrative court will be greeted by a cross in the southern German state.

“From then on, the obligation goes into effect — and we mean it absolutely seriously,” Martin Scholtysik, a spokesman for the Bavarian state interior ministry told DW.

The spokesman did not elaborate on whether or not there would be penalties for authorities that refuse to hang up the crosses, but he did note that the ministry is expecting some pushback.
A cross hangs near the entryway of Bavaria’s Ministry for Education, Science and Art in Munich, Germany (DW/R. Staudenmaier )

A metal crucifix hangs in the waiting room of Bavaria’s Ministry for Education, Science and Art in Munich

Required: ‘clearly visible cross’

The newly amended requirements for state buildings now reads: “A clearly visible cross must be placed in the entrance area of every service building to serve as a reminder of the historical and cultural influence of Bavaria.”

Bavarian state premier Markus Söder unveiled the new regulation at the end of April — adding a dramatic touch to his announcement by hanging a cross in Bavaria’s state chancellery, surrounded by the photographers’ flashing lights.

The state premier says the Cross is not a religious symbol, so he doesn’t see the problem with that.

In response, the Satanic Temple UK sent a whole bunch of crosses to Bavaria’s government, with the hanging loop on the bottom (the crosses can only be hung upside down). As it happens, the new law in Bavaria doesn’t say how the cross must be hung. Unsurprisingly, none of the Satanic Temple’s crosses have been hung in any government building.

patheos.com

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:46:50pm

re: #139 freetoken

Flash flood watch south of you: radar.weather.gov

That mess of storms from the tri-state corner to east of Scottsbluff is moving in our direction.

The flood warning is in Cheyenne County, including Sidney, the next county south.

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jaunte  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:48:07pm

re: #118 Mattand

Just got back from seeing Nathaniel Rateliff and the Night Sweats at the Mann Music Center in Philly. If you ever get the chance, go see them. Excellent show.

I believe there is a lizard in the area for this show:

Jul 18 Wed
Colours of Ostrava
Ostrava - Vítkovice, Moravskoslezský Kraj, Czechia
nathanielrateliff.com

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plansbandc  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:52:08pm

re: #144 jaunte

I really want to see them some time. Excellent band.

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plansbandc  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:52:39pm
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jaunte  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:55:00pm
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MsJ  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:55:38pm

Fucking MAGAts.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:56:14pm

No soup for you!

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mmmirele  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:56:45pm

re: #141 freetoken

Update on the SBC scandal: Patterson still looks like he wants to preach the big sermon. His adulators are pumping out excuses left and right for him.

Meanwhile, one of his installed profs is pushing an anti-gay agenda at the coming conference, as this person points out:

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(see several points on page 2.)

What’s interesting about the Patterson supporters is there’s not a word of concern for the woman he told not to report her rape. Not a peep, not a whisper. It’s all about Paige Patterson, the little tin god of the Conservative Resurgence.

The people agitating for him have arguably made it likely that Patterson is toxic. Certainly SWBTS isn’t going to bring him back on; if they did, it would be like admitting his behavior wasn’t a problem. There’s also the issue of the documents he lifted from SEBTS and then ended up in the hands of the wife of his chief of staff, who posted them on the Internet. Finally, there’s no discussion about the impact of the documents released. While I don’t know if the woman would actually sue, the fact is she has good causes of action for invasion of privacy and intentional infliction of emotional distress. (And that’s just off the top of my head.)

The whole thing is an SBC cluster, just in time for the SBC annual meeting starting next Tuesday. It’s going to be a dumpster fire.

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jaunte  Jun 6, 2018 • 8:59:27pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 6, 2018 • 9:04:02pm

re: #148 MsJ

Fucking MAGAts.

Leslie Basco
@LeslieBasco
5 Jun
Replying to @KaitMarieox and 2 others
Hogg is the sort of kid who in my generation would’ve gotten beat up daily until he got sense knocked into him.

And, no, in my generation, the bullying wouldn’t have caused him to go into a school & shoot because we grew up with far less violent TV shows, violent games etc

Interesting —- so another key characteristic of Trump supporters is that they are bullies.

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jaunte  Jun 6, 2018 • 9:05:50pm
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freetoken  Jun 6, 2018 • 9:12:00pm

re: #153 jaunte

Garance has yet to internalize that the world is on a dystopian march to extinction.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 6, 2018 • 9:14:11pm

re: #121 Joe Bacon 🌹

Another reason why it’s time to tax the churches!

It’s time to retroactively tax them back to 1789. With interest, fees, and penalties.

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retired cynic  Jun 6, 2018 • 9:16:03pm

re: #155 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

It’s time to retroactively tax them back to 1789. With interest, fees, and penalties.

Activities they run that are public benefits can be handled like regular 501c3 charities.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 6, 2018 • 9:20:45pm

Trade is good.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 9:23:17pm

The heavy storms are collapsing as they come over town.

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mmmirele  Jun 6, 2018 • 9:23:18pm

Annnd, I just had to chew out a Southern Baptist pastor who is trying to position himself as “middle of the road”—in between Paige Patterson and his supporters and the “liberal feminists.” His post also had strong whiffs of anti-Semitism and replacement theology. He can’t name a church where women hold the positions the patriarchs hold in the SBC, nor does he get that women rabbis are ordained in 3 of the 4 Jewish movements in America today.

The only thing he’s good for is defending the women who have been treated like crap within the mold of the SBC. But if I were pushed, I’d say even not-conservative SBC teachings are harmful to women. However, remember I am DONE with church. Absolutely DONE, so I might be prejudiced.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 6, 2018 • 9:26:03pm

re: #157 Single-handed sailor

Trade is good.

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Part of me hopes Trump kills NAFTA and the GOP gets a serious ass kicking at the polls.

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Kragar  Jun 6, 2018 • 9:26:35pm
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jaunte  Jun 6, 2018 • 9:28:06pm

re: #159 mmmirele

Given that the Civil War has been over for a while, why is there still an “S”BC?

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plansbandc  Jun 6, 2018 • 9:33:56pm

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 9:36:25pm

re: #159 mmmirele

I would not shed a tear if the entire SBC tears itself apart over this. I would love to see a pillar of righteous-wing conservatism knocked down.

A not insignificant number of people would leave the SBC for other churches, and some leave religion entirely.

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freetoken  Jun 6, 2018 • 9:45:22pm

re: #162 jaunte

Given that the Civil War has been over for a while, why is there still an “S”BC?

There aren’t many SBC churches in, say, Maine or North Dakota.

The SBC is the essence of southern state theocracy.

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sagehen  Jun 6, 2018 • 9:49:53pm

re: #162 jaunte

Given that the Civil War has been over for a while, why is there still an “S”BC?

When the Southern Baptists schismed from the Baptists… they invented a whole new way of reading/interpreting scripture to justify it. The cherry-picking verses, the insistence on face-value acceptance of literal phrases, that’s where that came from. The regular Baptist-Baptists, like Catholics and Jews and everyone else, had always read scripture as a complete cohesive work to be interpreted the way you’d analyze any other complete work.

That’s what’s made the SBC so crazy over the years; the rest of us can look at contradictory passages and think maybe one of them had an unreliable narrator, or one of them is a metaphor, or some prophet might have misunderstood the vision God sent him, or one of the characters is a cautionary tale and not a hero at all, or “things change, and what God wanted in one generation might be different than what he wanted 100 years later and 500 miles away”. The SBCs have to tell themselves that every sentence is true and eternal and if you can’t force yourself to believe multiple contradictory things at the same time you’re going to burn in hell forever.

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Belafon  Jun 6, 2018 • 9:49:55pm

re: #162 jaunte

Given that the Civil War has been over for a while, why is there still an “S”BC?

To separate itself from the rest of the Baptists. The SBC is the openly racist group.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 6, 2018 • 9:50:48pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

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What MIT did to an AI, Reddit is doing to people.

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De Kolta Chair  Jun 6, 2018 • 9:50:54pm

Jeremy Nguyen

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 9:51:35pm

re: #165 freetoken

There aren’t many SBC churches in, say, Maine or North Dakota.

The SBC is the essence of southern state theocracy.

Once the Civil War was over, the SBC was one of the centres of power to enforce Jim Crow.

In the Seventies they were still trying to enforce Jim Crow by disestablishing public schools in Virginia. In the Eighties they were behind the continued court push by Norfolk, VA to keep schools segregated (I really hated being stationed in Virginia Beach watching that crap).

Today their so-called Conservative Resurgence is putting new lipstick on a very old pig.

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De Kolta Chair  Jun 6, 2018 • 9:58:37pm

‘Night kids, and here’s your moment of Jack Kirby…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 9:59:07pm

Don’t know which meeting will be more chaotic—the G7 or the Southern Fried Baptists!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 6, 2018 • 10:02:22pm

re: #172 Joe Bacon 🌹

Don’t know which meeting will be more chaotic—the G7 or the Southern Fried Baptists!

If the Russians want to make themselves useful, they can hack into the airlines’ databases and switch their plane tickets—just for shits and giggles.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 10:07:28pm

GOP candidate for So. Car. House district 27 threatens a reporter who asked him about his pending child porn charges.

rawstory.com

A Republican candidate in South Carolina’s state House race for District 27 denied that he is facing child pornography charges even though court records show charges pending for a man with his name and address.

The Greenville News reported on Wednesday that records from the Greenville County courthouse and State Law Enforcement Division indicated that a man named Frederick Eugene Wall is facing charges stemming from a child pornography investigation.

But the Republican candidate with same name and address insisted to the paper that it was a case of mistaken identity.

“I have no criminal background,” Wall said.

— —

When greeted at the mobile home at the address Friday afternoon, a man declined to comment other than to refer questions to Eric Wheeler, who is the campaign manager for the candidate. The man at the mobile home appeared to be the same identified in a police mug shot from the child pornography arrest in 2017.

Warrants obtained from the courthouse show that the man named in court papers was charged with 16 counts of sexual exploitation of a minor third degree and two counts of sexual exploitation of a minor second degree on Feb. 1, 2017.

Nazis, paedophiles, the GOP sure knows how to pick ‘em.

“You’re cruising for a bruising, son,” Wall told The Greenville News reporter by phone. “I can’t explain it, and I’m not going to. And you don’t have to ask a thing.”

“I’m about to feel obligated to file suit against your newspaper for harassment,” he added. “If I say no, that’s an answer.”

(more)

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 10:07:43pm

re: #173 The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge

If the Russians want to make themselves useful, they can hack into the airlines’ databases and switch their plane tickets—just for shits and giggles.

Oh no the real fun would be having the Russian moles infiltrating the SBC meeting and turning up the insanity to 11!

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 10:09:20pm

re: #174 Anymouse 🌹

Doesn’t matter because Jay-Zuss forgives the sins of every Republican but when it comes to the Clenis he’s going to the lowest level of hell for being a Gawdless Democrat!

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 10:11:32pm

re: #176 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m a godless Democrat. If I thought there was a paradise and perdition, I’d rather spend it in perdition rather than all the folk who ignored me when I was homeless (you know I think there’s something in the New Testament about that) but made all pious in church.

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 6, 2018 • 10:18:32pm

One of the “MS-13 Animals.”

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jun 6, 2018 • 10:24:10pm

re: #178 DodgerFan1988

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One of the “MS-13 Animals.”

And following the (post-Reagan) American Dream™ where everybody gets rich delivering pizzas to each other….

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 6, 2018 • 10:26:01pm
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freetoken  Jun 6, 2018 • 10:26:31pm

Not much is left of the Golden Age of Hollywood:

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freetoken  Jun 6, 2018 • 10:28:42pm

Note that the AP story listed his age as 98, but others have pointed out that he was 99.

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A hollow voice says, Covfefe.  Jun 6, 2018 • 10:33:52pm

re: #126 Hecuba’s daughter

Actually, it is disappointing that the Dems didn’t get the top 2 positions and shut out the Republicans entirely. I heard that Gavin was targeting the Democratic opponent who could challenge him; if true, that is very unfortunate because having a Republican in the race will help the GOP turnout. OTOH, I’m not a fan at all of the California jungle primary system. So I guess I’m being inconsistent.

I agree, but it’s hardly surprising. There were multiple democratic candidates, and only one republican, so every republican who voted voted for him. (I had my moments of fear that he’d be number one. Which wouldn’t affect the general — all the dems would be voting for one person — but would be painful.)

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meteor  Jun 6, 2018 • 10:37:00pm
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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 10:41:15pm
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Targetpractice  Jun 6, 2018 • 10:44:38pm

re: #180 Single-handed sailor

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It’s good to know that purposefully hiding emails concerning government business is not a major concern to the media. I would hate to think how they might react if Javanka were…dare I say…Democrats.

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freetoken  Jun 6, 2018 • 10:46:38pm

One thing the whole Hollywood story - that is, the rise of motion pictures through the creation of television serials - tells us about America is that we’ve had a century of common culture through mass media that has been quite a change from previous eras.

This may be strange to those who haven’t dug into the past much, but before the invention of the silent movie, Americans had a very not-unified melange of entertainment and information sources.

I think we idealize too much the post WWII journalism adventure, thinking that is how people ought to be influenced about what to believe.

Before Hollywood, before the silent movies, Americans heard traveling speakers. Religious often, preachers, but also other types of speakers. And, those Americans who could read, and literacy increased greatly in the 19th century, read the local newspaper(s). And, many Americans did a weekly religious service of this or that sort, in which they heard their religious leaders speak.

Circuses and carnivals came around where there was good transportation.

Some locales even had theaters in the 19th century, but not many, for plays and music.

Anyway, when you realize that there was no way to know quickly what was happening outside your corner of the world, then one can understand why people would buy outlandish stories.

And this is partly why new religions could pop up so easily.

The idea that somehow there is a uniform “news” distribution around the country is a very recent invention. Before then, “news” was whatever your neighbors were doing.

So when silent movies were introduced and the local vaudeville theaters faded, people all around the country could share a cultural experience in a tight window of time, say within a few weeks of each other.

And of course news reels came along with the entertainment, too.

Anyway, the pre-WWII Hollywood is now almost all gone, only a few remain who were on screen or involved in production.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 10:48:14pm

Librarian jokes… .

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 10:52:30pm

re: #187 freetoken

To Hollywood you can also add the invention of the automobile, which made traveling far from your home much easier. The telephone allowed you to get an instant message (well, almost instant until automated switching came into play) anywhere in the world where there were telephones.

Radio did the same for entertainment that movies did, with the added bonus that shortwave radio (which used to be much more popular in the USA) allowed you to get information and entertainment from around the world.

The XX Century probably did more to shrink the world then all the centuries before it.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 11:08:44pm

Another sexual and physical abuser is ousted from a powerful position, this time a nephew of George W. Bush. He stands accused of physically assaulting his wife, and sexually inappropriate commentary and behaviour around female employees.

reuters.com

(Reuters) - Athenahealth Inc’s (ATHN.O) Chief Executive Officer Jonathan Bush stepped down on Wednesday and the healthcare software maker said it was exploring options, including selling itself, following pressure from activist investor Elliott Management.
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Last week, Bush issued an apology after a report in U.K.’s Daily Mail newspaper said that he had assaulted his former wife 14 years ago.

(more)

bloomberg.com

New allegations of questionable behavior by Athenahealth Inc. Chief Executive Officer Jonathan Bush are emerging as the health technology executive attempts to fend off a takeover proposal from an activist investor.

In the past week, Bush has apologized for assaulting his ex-wife, and public records have surfaced alleging that he subjected a female employee to what she described as a “sexually hostile environment.”

Now more examples of potentially inappropriate behavior by Bush have emerged.

(more)

Do they train conservatives for this, or does it come naturally?

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Cheechako  Jun 6, 2018 • 11:11:05pm

This tornado was about 9 miles north of Laramie, WY this afternoon:

Tornado 9 miles N of Laramie, WY 6/06/2018
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JordanRules  Jun 6, 2018 • 11:12:30pm

Please stop man.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 6, 2018 • 11:15:45pm

re: #191 Cheechako

This tornado was about 9 miles north of Laramie, WY this afternoon:

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Wow. That was part of the storm complex that hit us tonight. Laramie is a considerable distance from us, though.

By the way, my sweetie is planning our Yukon trip to take us through the Alaska Panhandle. Should I wave at you?

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 6, 2018 • 11:17:59pm

re: #192 JordanRules

He’s really bad without SNL writers.

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JordanRules  Jun 6, 2018 • 11:43:32pm
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Cheechako  Jun 6, 2018 • 11:53:59pm

re: #193 Anymouse 🌹

Wow. That was part of the storm complex that hit us tonight. Laramie is a considerable distance from us, though.

By the way, my sweetie is planning our Yukon trip to take us through the Alaska Panhandle. Should I wave at you?

Hell yes. Are you planning to use the Alaska Ferry for part of your trip?

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 7, 2018 • 12:04:08am

re: #196 Cheechako

Hell yes. Are you planning to use the Alaska Ferry for part of your trip?

Yes. The plan is to drive south from Yukon and take the ferry across and go to Juneau, then to Prince Rupert.

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Cheechako  Jun 7, 2018 • 12:16:10am

re: #197 Anymouse 🌹

Yes. The plan is to drive south from Yukon and take the ferry across and go to Juneau, then to Prince Rupert.

Great. Keep me up to date on your plans and maybe we can have a meet-up. I’m in Juneau. I can also give you tips on what to see and do.

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Anymouse 🌹  Jun 7, 2018 • 12:37:35am

re: #198 Cheechako

Great. Keep me up to date on your plans and maybe we can have a meet-up. I’m in Juneau. I can also give you tips on what to see and do.

Kewl. My wife is doing the trip-planning, so when she’s nailed down everything I’ll let you know.

The plan is likely to go to a convention in Denver at the end of July (already scheduled), then leave from there straight for Saskatchewan and the start of that trip.

Perhaps some tips where to stay in the area as well. Definitely need to do the meetup. I’ve never met a denizen of LGF before (probably to the benefit of LGF denizens).

Look for a black Smart car with Nebraska plates. That will be us. /s

I’m headed off to bed.

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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 12:38:47am
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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 12:40:52am
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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 12:49:46am
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freetoken  Jun 7, 2018 • 12:54:01am

It’s time for our late night missive…

A few years back, American evangelicals got all hot about a supposedly newly discovered manuscript of Mark. I think I may have even put in a few comments here on LGF about it.

There were a flurry of blogposts around Christendom, and then apologists started to run with it.

Well, the whole thing collapsed when the weight of the truth came out recently.

Youtuber PineCreek yesterday put a video with the saga, in two parts:

Part 1: The First Century Mark (FCM) Debacle; Being Desirous = Being Duped

Part 2: The First Century Mark (FCM) Debacle; Being Desirous = Being Duped

(note: I watch these at 1.25x playback speed, it helps.)

PineCreek does a good job showing how the apologists deceive their audiences, and how the backstory about the manuscript kept changing.

Anyway, just last month the actual manuscript, which is a tiny fragment of what today is labeled as 6 verses, was published (available at Amazon.)

The dating of the fragment is from the late 2nd to the early 3rd century. Much later than the claims of the apologists. The fragment is part of the famed Oxyrhynchus collection found over a century ago in a garbage dump in Egypt.

So much of the Christian apologetics hot air over this thing was just that - fabricated hot air.

PineCreek suspects that HobbyLobby and the Greens may have fueled part of the fire.

The really absurd thing is that fundamentalists believe an old manuscript somehow shows their beliefs to be true.

But we know that the earliest discussions about canon were well before the Council of Nicaea, and the latter just sealed the fate for official Christian dogma. So there had to be plenty of manuscripts between the first mention of Christian writings and Nicaea. And the fragment of Mark recently published sits in that window.

As PineCreek points out in the beginning of his video, no one doubts that the fledgling religion grew in popularity in the 2nd century, and thus one would expect there to have been copies of Christian writings at that time. Thus finding a fragment from that era is not revelatory or proof of anything in regards to the historicity problems of the religion’s core beliefs.

At least Dan Wallace, who first publicized the claim of a first century manuscript, has apologized (in part anyway.)

The others in the mess? Nope.

For a long discussion of this story: evangelicaltextualcriticism.blogspot.com

The Egypt Exploration Society, who are the owners of the text and who support the work of the scholars, have a statement: ees.ac.uk

Oxford is the keeper of the collection and where the papyrologist who dated the fragment works : classics.ox.ac.uk

The DailyBeast threw some shade/light on this issue: thedailybeast.com

Bottom Line: As usual, the Christian apologists are not to be trusted.

And, there are other fragments in the collection older than this fragment of Mark. For example, bits of the Gospel of Thomas. If age implies truthfulness, why don’t the fundamentalists accept the Gospel of Thomas?

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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 12:55:23am

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wheat-dogg  Jun 7, 2018 • 12:57:55am

re: #204 JordanRules

Thankfully, the cartoonist did not put Trump in Miley Cyrus’ “Wrecking Ball” (non)costume.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 7, 2018 • 12:59:25am
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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 1:00:51am

re: #205 wheat-dogg

Thankfully, the cartoonist did not put Trump in Miley Cyrus’ “Wrecking Ball” (non)costume.

Oh, you’re so right! Small blessings.

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 7, 2018 • 1:02:27am

broken link (edit)

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 7, 2018 • 1:15:36am
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freetoken  Jun 7, 2018 • 1:30:36am

You know all those heart-warming images of baby animals all getting along with each other, that fill endless streams of posts on Facebook?

Well, this isn’t one of those things:

GRAPHIC: Crocodile eats dog that tormented it for years

Some may find the video disturbing.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2018 • 1:30:42am

re: #17 Anymouse 🌹

Just got back, the weather here is about to go down the tubes.

wunderground.com

Watches and warnings all over the area. The main storm line is centered east and west along I-80. Sidney is getting pounded, and a very severe thunderstorm is moving SW across the Nebr.-Colo. line into Colorado.

Severe weather warning across most of Germany for today…almost welcome after a long weekend and week of hot and muggy.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2018 • 1:37:50am

re: #21 JordanRules

This should not be hanging in my soon-to-be-kindergartener’s classroom.]

…now it’s time to have some fun?!?

WTFing Fitty F is that about???

Second Amendment is unassailable
Reasonable solutions are unavailable

Gun rights are what matter moast
And you school kids, I fear, are toast

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2018 • 1:49:54am

re: #25 goddamnedfrank

MIT scientists created a “psychopath” AI by feeding it violent content from Reddit

Imagine what happens when they start feeding it Trump tweets…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2018 • 1:55:36am

re: #38 jaunte

Hurricane watching in our boats, like you do.

like watching the solar eclipse without glasses

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Single-handed sailor  Jun 7, 2018 • 1:56:06am

re: #213 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Don’t give them ideas.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2018 • 2:16:25am

re: #111 Anymouse 🌹

Food for thought.

(more)
bbc.com
“How Women’s Body Parts Have Been Named after Men”

and the far-flung Islands of Langerhans…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2018 • 2:18:13am

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

She concluded with: “Civility is just nice words. Maybe we should all worry a little bit more about the niceness of our actions”

To me the worst is when people observe all the forms of civility while being totally rude and condescending, like when a Brit starts out a sentence saying “With all due respect….”

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 7, 2018 • 2:20:46am

This reboot of Monty Python’s Flying Circus* really is quite amusing.

*by that, I am of course referring to Brexit

theguardian.com

What a shitshow.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 7, 2018 • 2:28:22am

re: #217 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

To me the worst is when people observe all the forms of civility while being totally rude and condescending, like when a Brit starts out a sentence saying “With all due respect….”

That’s what I always hated about the praise for Southern hospitality. The South tolerated racism and Jim Crow for the century after the war ended slavery, but they were very “hospitable”. And official Jim Crow ended only when through federal legislation and Supreme Court decisions and not because Southern states of their own accord decided these behaviors were wrong.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2018 • 2:30:39am

re: #219 Hecuba’s daughter

That’s what I always hated about the praise for Southern hospitality. The South tolerated racism and Jim Crow for the century after the war ended slavery, but they were very “hospitable”. And official Jim Crow ended only when through federal legislation and Supreme Court decisions and not because Southern states of their own accord decided these behaviors were wrong.

I would rather know exactly how I stand with someone than be showered with florid speech and then treated like shit…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2018 • 2:39:40am

re: #218 Dr Lizardo

This reboot of Monty Python’s Flying Circus* really is quite amusing.

*by that, I am of course referring to Brexit

theguardian.com

What a shitshow.

Brexit shares a lot of parallels with Trump’s election: nobody really expected it and hence were unprepared for the consequences.
They are making things up as they go along while ignoring their previous promises.
And generations to come will be paying the price for what they did.

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freetoken  Jun 7, 2018 • 3:15:58am

re: #221 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Brexit shares a lot of parallels with Trump’s election: .

Probably because there were many shared instigators between the two.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2018 • 3:19:11am

re: #222 freetoken

Probably because there were many shared instigators between the two.

you mean people with an interest in destabilizing the US and UK?

on the other hand, we left ourselves wide open to it, and there is no law against influencing a foreign election, only against colluding with a foreign government to do so in your own country…

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 7, 2018 • 4:02:35am

Mrs. FBW and I have arrived in Pennsyltucky for Dad’s 100th birthday celebration. The vibrant green of all the vegetation is seductive, as California dries outfor summer.

We’re thinking about retiring here, since it’s so much cheaper. Question is, are we too Californicated?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2018 • 4:05:32am

re: #224 Blind Frog Belly White

Mrs. FBW and I have arrived in Pennsyltucky for Dad’s 100th birthday celebration. The vibrant green of all the vegetation is seductive, as California dries outfor summer.

We’re thinking about retiring here, since it’s so much cheaper. Question is, are we too Californicated?

I ask a similar question myself, I been living in Europe for the past 30 years.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 7, 2018 • 4:12:26am

re: #225 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I ask a similar question myself, I been living in Europe for the past 30 years.

Yeah, I’ve been living in Czech Republic (and here and there in Europe) since 2001. I think I’d probably have some culture shock if I went back to live in the US.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jun 7, 2018 • 4:15:01am

If I had my druthers and about $5 million, I ‘d never think of leaving California. But that’s the problem, isn’t it? I can only afford to live there when I’m working.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2018 • 4:17:15am

re: #226 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, I’ve been living in Czech Republic (and here and there in Europe) since 2001. I think I’d probably have some culture shock if I went back to live in the US.

It also depends on where: I would probably be okay in the Southwest, where I lived before I left for Europe, but probably not in the Midwest, where I grew up.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 7, 2018 • 4:18:53am

re: #228 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It also depends on where: I would probably be okay in the Southwest, where I lived before I left for Europe, but probably not in the Midwest, where I grew up.

I’d probably be cool in either Los Angeles, my hometown, or the Portland, OR area, where I lived for about 20 years.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2018 • 4:19:44am

re: #229 Dr Lizardo

I’d probably be cool in either Los Angeles, my hometown, or the Portland, OR area, where I lived for about 20 years.

those are far removed from the rest of America…especially Indiana or Pennsylvania

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jeffreyw  Jun 7, 2018 • 4:28:36am

Imgur


Good morning!

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 7, 2018 • 4:31:44am

re: #230 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

those are far removed from the rest of America…especially Indiana or Pennsylvania

I’m sure that a whole lot of folks in place like Indiana or Pennsylvania (not to mention the Deep South) probably think the Pacific Northwest is filled with heathens and godless Bolsheviks, LOL.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2018 • 4:37:39am

re: #232 Dr Lizardo

I’m sure that a whole lot of folks in place like Indiana or Pennsylvania (not to mention the Deep South) probably think the Pacific Northwest is filled with heathens and godless Bolsheviks, LOL.

or just intolerable hipsters…

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A Mom Anon  Jun 7, 2018 • 4:37:42am

re: #219 Hecuba’s daughter
re: #219 Hecuba’s daughter

I’ve lived in the south for 30 years. That southern hospitality thing is bullshit. Especially after 9/11. I know this is anecdotal, but the rudeness and bullying here went off the charts less than a couple months after that day and it’s only got worse. I could go on a tirade for hours, I’ll spare you.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 7, 2018 • 4:43:31am

Flipping through channels I see that the Dersh is on FnF this morning providing guidance to Trump (“I wish he would issue more pardons!”). But I couldn’t stay for long—started to feel queasy.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 7, 2018 • 4:48:36am

re: #234 A Mom Anon

I’ve lived in the south for 30 years. That southern hospitality thing is bullshit. Especially after 9/11. I know this is anecdotal, but the rudeness and bullying here went off the charts less than a couple months after that day and it’s only got worse. I could go on a tirade for hours, I’ll spare you.

I transplanted from PA to the south for about 14 years, graduated high school in MS even. Dads side of family had always been there. The southern hospitality myth is because when people from the north come to visit we are just considered yankee’s and they are tolerant and nice since you will be leaving soon and they are making money off you. I, on the other hand, stayed and worked/lived there. So I was a “damn” yankee. I was looked on as coming down and taking their jobs and such. We were treated a bit differently, as in “Why don’t you go back to where you came from?”.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 7, 2018 • 4:48:42am

re: #233 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

or just intolerable hipsters…

I’ve certainly noticed this; Ostrava is on the cusp of becoming a hipster mecca.

It’s inexpensive to live here (especially when compared to Prague) and over the last three years, I’ve seen a veritable explosion of cafes, vegetarian/vegan restaurants, hookah bars and tattoo parlors.

DM Drogerie is selling beard oil and beard balm - they weren’t doing that two years ago because there was simply no demand for it here.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 7, 2018 • 4:51:32am

re: #185 Anymouse 🌹

[Embedded content]

Amazing to see all of these racist whites getting their star time on Facebook…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2018 • 4:51:57am

re: #237 Dr Lizardo

I’ve certainly noticed this; Ostrava is on the cusp of becoming a hipster mecca.

It’s inexpensive to live here (especially when compared to Prague) and over the last three years, I’ve seen a veritable explosion of cafes, vegetarian/vegan restaurants, hookah bars and tattoo parlors.

DM Drogerie is selling beard oil and beard balm - they weren’t doing that two years ago because there was simply no demand for it here.

I started raising a beard again but will not do the man-bun…

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Dave In Austin  Jun 7, 2018 • 4:52:23am

And another one….

usnews.com

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 7, 2018 • 4:53:48am

And it’s starting to look like British PM May has caved a bit to the Brexiteers.

So if Davis managed to firm up the requirement that the backstop has to be time limited, he’s also increased the chances of the EU declaring the proposal unacceptable.

And then it’s back to square one.

Yep……….what a shitshow.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 7, 2018 • 4:55:11am

re: #239 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I started raising a beard again but will not do the man-bun…

Gaaah - the man-bun is ubiquitous here with the younger guys.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2018 • 4:55:51am

re: #241 Dr Lizardo

And it’s starting to look like British PM May has caved a bit to the Brexiteers.

If the UK wants to continue to enjoy the benefits of trade with the EU, then it has to accept EU regulations.

But it will not have a voice in shaping those regulations.

Like splitting up with your girlfriend but still getting yelled at for leaving the toilet seat up…

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 7, 2018 • 5:01:03am

re: #243 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If the UK wants to continue to enjoy the benefits of trade with the EU, then it has to accept EU regulations.

But it will not have a voice in shaping those regulations.

Like splitting up with your girlfriend but still getting yelled at for leaving the toilet seat up…

This is all so fucking stupid. May can kick the can down the road another 48 hours or so and that’s probably about it (or until the EU says “ENOUGH OF THIS SHIT! WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?!”). She might as well get it over with now as a leadership challenge from the Brexiteer nutjobs is pretty much unavoidable at this point.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 7, 2018 • 5:04:51am

re: #213 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Imagine what happens when they start feeding it Trump tweets…

It’ll act just like Robot B9 sabotaged by Dr. Smith…

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Bubblehead II  Jun 7, 2018 • 5:26:25am

re: #231 jeffreyw

[Embedded content]

Good morning!

Morning. Look a Squirrel!

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Mattand  Jun 7, 2018 • 5:29:09am

Fucking Politico…

There’s an article titled “Obama’s Retirement Fail”. These fucking people; I’m trying to resist reading the article because I’m guessing the abstract is “Obama has not single handedly removed Trump from office with his retired POTUS superpowers, therefore FAIL.”

I think that’s the second “THANKS, Obama” bullshite they’ve featured in the last two months or so. That site just can’t resist the Magic Balance Fairy heroin.

This is what kills me about orgs like them, The Hill, CNN, etc. It’s like they get nervous publishing so much negative stuff about the GOP. Well, you know what, kids? IT’S BECAUSE THE GOP IS TRYING TO TEAR DOWN THE COUNTRY PIECE BY PIECE SO THEY CAN RULE FOREVER.

When the Dems get to sowing the ISIS level chaos the GOP has, go for it. Until then, stow the false balance shit. As long as conservatives have Fox News, they will never consider anything else a legitimate news source.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2018 • 5:30:49am

re: #247 Mattand

When the Dems get to sowing the ISIS level chaos the GOP has, go for it. Until then, stow the false balance shit. As long as conservatives have Fox News, they will never consider anything else a legitimate news source.

And if Fox ever turns on Trump, they will not consider it a legitimate source either

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2018 • 5:36:03am

re: #209 Single-handed sailor

I thought presidents could order any investigation or halt any investigation they wanted to, Donny.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 7, 2018 • 5:36:25am

re: #234 A Mom Anon

I’ve lived in the south for 30 years. That southern hospitality thing is bullshit. Especially after 9/11. I know this is anecdotal, but the rudeness and bullying here went off the charts less than a couple months after that day and it’s only got worse. I could go on a tirade for hours, I’ll spare you.

My brother moved to the south in the late 1990’s. His politics went off the rails after 9/11 and never recovered.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 7, 2018 • 5:37:10am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2018 • 5:37:18am

re: #247 Mattand

Fucking Politico…

There’s an article titled “Obama’s Retirement Fail”. These fucking people; I’m trying to resist reading the article because I’m guessing the abstract is “Obama has not single handedly removed Trump from office with his retired POTUS superpowers, therefore FAIL.”

I think that’s the second “THANKS, Obama” bullshite they’ve featured in the last two months or so. That site just can’t resist the Magic Balance Fairy heroin.

This is what kills me about orgs like them, The Hill, CNN, etc. It’s like they get nervous publishing so much negative stuff about the GOP. Well, you know what, kids? IT’S BECAUSE THE GOP IS TRYING TO TEAR DOWN THE COUNTRY PIECE BY PIECE SO THEY CAN RULE FOREVER.

When the Dems get to sowing the ISIS level chaos the GOP has, go for it. Until then, stow the false balance shit. As long as conservatives have Fox News, they will never consider anything else a legitimate news source.

“Obama is doing too much/too little in retirement, how come he won’t do this and that or stop doing this or that.”

I saw another headline from the AP about Obama supposedly letting Iran cheat on the nuke deal. Didn’t read it, assumed it’s BS.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2018 • 5:41:35am

re: #252 Sir John Barron

“Obama is doing too much/too little in retirement, how come he won’t do this and that or stop doing this or that.”

I saw another headline from the AP about Obama supposedly letting Iran cheat on the nuke deal. Didn’t read it, assumed it’s BS.

There is language that allows such an interpretation and that is what they are running with.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2018 • 5:44:47am

re: #253 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is language that allows such an interpretation and that is what they are running with.

the headline seemed to assume guilt.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 7, 2018 • 5:48:19am

re: #248 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And if Fox ever turns on Trump, they will not consider it a legitimate source either

Yeah, they’ll move on to OANN or Newsmax TV or something.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2018 • 5:51:29am

re: #255 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, they’ll move on to OANN or Newsmax TV or something.

I sometimes follow newsmax and they are starting to turn on Trump. There was a very damning op-ed from Pat Buchannan on how Trump has abandoned everything the Bush-era GOP stood for.

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 7, 2018 • 5:51:39am

re: #252 Sir John Barron

“Obama is doing too much/too little in retirement, how come he won’t do this and that or stop doing this or that.”

I saw another headline from the AP about Obama supposedly letting Iran cheat on the nuke deal. Didn’t read it, assumed it’s BS.

And no matter what happens—even if he is impeached—there will be Politico articles about how Trump “changed the game” and “broke things wide open.”

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 7, 2018 • 5:53:07am

So, this is the UK Government’s backstop plan:

- The government’s backstop plan would effectively keep the UK in the customs union after the transition ends in December 2020. While the backstop was operating the government would be able to sign and implement free trade deals with other countries, but it would not be able to implement those aspects of the trade deals relating to tariffs - which would largely render them pointless. (The UK would not be free to offer non-EU countries lower tariffs.) This is hard to square with Theresa May’s insistence that the UK must operate an independent trade policy from 2021.
- The government plan says the backstop should only last for 12 months at most. The transition is due to end in December 2021, and the government document says the UK “expects the future arrangement to be in place by the end of December 2021 at the latest.” But “expects” is not a firm guarantee, and this statement does not say what would happen if the final customs plan (which the government claims will settle the Irish border problem for good) is not in place by then.
- The government document does not say how the time limit would operate - which really means who gets to decide when it ends. There are “a range of options”, it says, and this is a matter the government says it wants to discuss with the EU. But this issue is crucial. Brexiters want to have the UK to have the power to bring the backstop to an end unilaterally, so the government can then enjoy the full benefits of future trade deals. But the EU does not want to agree a backstop that could end without a solution to the Irish border issue. On this issue, the document does not so much fudge the problem as ignore it altogether.

Off the top of my head, I’d say the EU is probably gonna shoot this down and say, “LOLwut? Try harder.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2018 • 5:53:57am

re: #257 Barefoot Grin

And no matter what happens—even if he is impeached—there will be Politico articles about how Trump “changed the game” and “broke things wide open.”

He showed what abandoning the Fairness Doctrine, FCC ownership regulations can do especially after Citizens’ United…

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Dave In Austin  Jun 7, 2018 • 5:54:23am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 7, 2018 • 5:54:26am

re: #256 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I sometimes follow newsmax and they are starting to turn on Trump. There was a very damning op-ed from Pat Buchannan on how Trump has abandoned everything the Bush-era GOP stood for.

I guess OANN will be the only cult-friendly media outlet they’ve got left if FNC ends up turning on Trump.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2018 • 5:55:31am

re: #258 Dr Lizardo

The government’s backstop plan would effectively keep the UK in the customs union after the transition ends in December 2020. While the backstop was operating the government would be able to sign and implement free trade deals with other countries, but it would not be able to implement those aspects of the trade deals relating to tariffs - which would largely render them pointless.

again, they have to abide by EU rules but have relinquished any voice in shaping them

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Weaselone  Jun 7, 2018 • 5:55:37am

re: #251 Dave In Austin

So they want Trump chained to one of the outer columns of the Lincoln Memorial?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2018 • 5:59:26am

re: #263 Weaselone

So they want Trump chained to one of the outer columns of the Lincoln Memorial?

Is that serious or just a meta-ironic piss-take?

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Dave In Austin  Jun 7, 2018 • 6:02:39am
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Dave In Austin  Jun 7, 2018 • 6:04:55am

re: #263 Weaselone

So they want Trump chained to one of the outer columns of the Lincoln Memorial?

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William Lewis  Jun 7, 2018 • 6:04:56am

re: #224 Blind Frog Belly White

Mrs. FBW and I have arrived in Pennsyltucky for Dad’s 100th birthday celebration. The vibrant green of all the vegetation is seductive, as California dries outfor summer.

We’re thinking about retiring here, since it’s so much cheaper. Question is, are we too Californicated?

If I move anywhere for “retirement”, it will be to Bisbee, Arizona. Fell in love with it while stationed at Ft. Huachuca.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2018 • 6:06:32am

re: #267 William Lewis

If I move anywhere for “retirement”, it will be to Bisbee, Arizona. Fell in love with it while stationed at Ft. Huachuca.

One of my favorite spots, that and the nearby Chiracauha Mountains.

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William Lewis  Jun 7, 2018 • 6:08:29am

re: #268 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

One of my favorite spots, that and the nearby Chiracauha Mountains.

Beautiful hiking up in those hills. My photographer side would be ecstatic too - might even make me break out film again if I can find some good 4x5 ISO25 B&W sheets.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 7, 2018 • 6:09:25am

re: #267 William Lewis

If I move anywhere for “retirement”, it will be to Bisbee, Arizona. Fell in love with it while stationed at Ft. Huachuca.

Yes….. Just Yes!!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2018 • 6:12:34am

re: #269 William Lewis

Beautiful hiking up in those hills. My photographer side would be ecstatic too - might even make me break out film again if I can find some good 4x5 ISO25 B&W sheets.

Some of the best times I have ever had hiking and camping.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 7, 2018 • 6:15:17am

The Women of MSNBC are not happy with Rudy……

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Dave In Austin  Jun 7, 2018 • 6:21:15am

re: #272 Dave In Austin

The Women of MSNBC are not happy with Rudy……

Maggie Maggie

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 7, 2018 • 6:21:21am

re: #247 Mattand

Fucking Politico…

There’s an article titled “Obama’s Retirement Fail”. These fucking people; I’m trying to resist reading the article because I’m guessing the abstract is “Obama has not single handedly removed Trump from office with his retired POTUS superpowers, therefore FAIL.”

I think that’s the second “THANKS, Obama” bullshite they’ve featured in the last two months or so. That site just can’t resist the Magic Balance Fairy heroin.

This is what kills me about orgs like them, The Hill, CNN, etc. It’s like they get nervous publishing so much negative stuff about the GOP. Well, you know what, kids? IT’S BECAUSE THE GOP IS TRYING TO TEAR DOWN THE COUNTRY PIECE BY PIECE SO THEY CAN RULE FOREVER.

When the Dems get to sowing the ISIS level chaos the GOP has, go for it. Until then, stow the false balance shit. As long as conservatives have Fox News, they will never consider anything else a legitimate news source.

Charlie Pierce correctly tagged Politico as “Tiger Beat On The Potomac”. It’s just another cog in the Republican 24/7 Bullshit Machine.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2018 • 6:22:40am

re: #273 Dave In Austin

“If you’re a (feminist) and you support the porn industry, you should turn in your credentials,” Giuliani told Dana Bash on CNN Thursday.

there is also feminist porn made by women for women

this is just Stormy bashing

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2018 • 6:23:27am

re: #273 Dave In Austin

“If you’re a (feminist) and you support the porn industry, you should turn in your credentials,” Giuliani told @DanaBashCNN Thursday. cnn.com

— Manu Raju

And if you use, participate in, the porn industry as a “john” like your client….

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fern01  Jun 7, 2018 • 6:25:28am

re: #190 Anymouse 🌹

(more)

Do they train conservatives for this, or does it come naturally?

They are raised to believe that women belong to men - so it’s not quite natural - but related to nurture.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 7, 2018 • 6:25:29am

re: #224 Blind Frog Belly White

Mrs. FBW and I have arrived in Pennsyltucky for Dad’s 100th birthday celebration. The vibrant green of all the vegetation is seductive, as California dries outfor summer.

We’re thinking about retiring here, since it’s so much cheaper. Question is, are we too Californicated?

Pennsylvania is like a 5 on a dice cube. The corners (Erie/Allentown-Wilkes-Barre-Bethlehem/Philly/Pittsburgh/Centre Conty) are blue but the rest are redder than Mississippi.

The last time I went back to Ambridge was in 2002 and the whole area is economically dead and it’s now hard core Jay-Zuss Crack House Republican. There’s no way I could live there. I could see about going back to Pittsburgh but my RA can’t handle the cold winters or humid summers anymore.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2018 • 6:30:13am

re: #278 Joe Bacon 🌹

Pennsylvania is like a 5 on a dice cube. The corners (Erie/Allentown-Wilkes-Barre-Bethlehem/Philly/Pittsburgh/Centre Conty) are blue but the rest are redder than Mississippi.

The last time I went back to Ambridge was in 2002 and the whole area is economically dead and it’s now hard core Jay-Zuss Crack House Republican. There’s no way I could live there. I could see about going back to Pittsburgh but my RA can’t handle the cold winters or humid summers anymore.

What’s the middle blue—Harrisburg/State College?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 7, 2018 • 6:31:05am

re: #279 Sir John Barron

Centre County is State College Paternoland but it’s blue.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jun 7, 2018 • 6:36:40am

re: #235 Barefoot Grin

Flipping through channels I see that the Dersh is on FnF this morning providing guidance to Trump (“I wish he would issue more pardons!”). But I couldn’t stay for long—started to feel queasy.

FnF, does that stand for Fox and Fluffers?

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Weaselone  Jun 7, 2018 • 6:48:07am

re: #264 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Is that serious or just a meta-ironic piss-take?

The 2nd.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 7, 2018 • 6:57:57am
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Patricia Kayden  Jun 7, 2018 • 6:59:43am

re: #283 Dave In Austin

Cillizza must be so impressed by Trump’s expertise in name calling.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 7, 2018 • 7:01:29am

re: #284 Patricia Kayden

Cillizza must be impressed by Trump’s expertise in name calling.

Chrissy worships the ground Trump walks on.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 7, 2018 • 7:11:05am

re: #256 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I sometimes follow newsmax and they are starting to turn on Trump. There was a very damning op-ed from Pat Buchannan on how Trump has abandoned everything the Bush-era GOP stood for.

I don’t think you read that article closely. Buchanan was damning the Bushites who he has been fighting for decades. Trump represents the triumph of Buchanan’s own racist nationalism.

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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 7:11:30am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2018 • 7:19:48am

re: #287 JordanRules

“With great change comes, I think, opposition

“We’re just being picked on because we’re true patriot conservatives.”

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2018 • 7:22:27am

re: #287 JordanRules

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Nothing wrong with enjoying a chicken sandwich, something very wrong when the head of the EPA uses an assistant to get his wife her own franchise but okay Scott. This guy is one of the most corrupt pieces of shit out there. And yet because of other things in the administration, it gets ignored which is really unfortunate because the environment is something that the administration is doing a lot of damage on.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2018 • 7:23:06am

re: #286 Big Beautiful Door

I don’t think you read that article closely. Buchanan was damning the Bushites who he has been fighting for decades. Trump represents the triumph of Buchanan’s own racist nationalism.

Knowing Buchanan, that’s definitely the case. Buchanan hates the Bushes.

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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 7:25:01am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2018 • 7:26:04am

re: #291 JordanRules

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This should be interesting. Trump’s definitely involved himself in this by calling the kneelers SOBs, etc.

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A dark and stormy covfefe  Jun 7, 2018 • 7:26:36am

I just did my bit to keep Doug Ford out of the Premier’s office in Ontario.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 7, 2018 • 7:27:28am

re: #290 HappyWarrior

Knowing Buchanan, that’s definitely the case. Buchanan hates the Bushes.

Buchanan was the proto-Trump; they basically ran on the same issues opposing the Bush GOP’s policies of free trade, immigration and neo-conservative foreign policy.

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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 7:27:41am

So he’s probably going to love this.

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Weaselone  Jun 7, 2018 • 7:29:25am

re: #293 A dark and stormy covfefe

I just did my bit to keep Doug Ford out of the Premier’s office in Ontario.

Hopefully, your efforts are successful.

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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 7:30:07am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2018 • 7:30:10am

re: #294 Big Beautiful Door

Buchanan was the proto-Trump; they basically ran on the same issues opposing the Bush GOP’s policies of free trade, immigration and neo-conservative foreign policy.

Agreed. Great observation.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2018 • 7:31:26am

re: #286 Big Beautiful Door

I don’t think you read that article closely. Buchanan was damning the Bushites who he has been fighting for decades. Trump represents the triumph of Buchanan’s own racist nationalism.

So he is proud that the GOP we once know is dead. I get it…

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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 7:32:23am

He couldn’t warn us tho?? He had to warn us about Hillary’s damn emails. Uggh.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 7, 2018 • 7:33:26am

re: #295 JordanRules

So he’s probably going to love this.

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We have our own mini-Trump in Kentucky, Governor Matt Bevin. He has been railing against Frankfort Circuit Court Judge Philip Shepherd as a “hack” and asked the Chief Justice to remove Judge Shepherd because he keeps ruling against Bevin’s authoritarian style of governing, such as sacking entire government boards to substitute a hand-picked slate of lackeys. Justice Minton denied Bevin’s recusal request; he doesn’t yet have the power to pick his own judges.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2018 • 7:35:03am

The favorite to the win the GOP nomination here in VA for the Senate is Corey Stewart who loves to brag that he was Trump before Trump. See, this is what Trump’s legacy is aside from the judges, it’s what he’s done to the GOP. This is Trump’s party and it will be for a very long time.

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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 7:35:33am

Wow, what a thread!!

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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 7:38:33am

re: #292 HappyWarrior

This should be interesting. Trump’s definitely involved himself in this by calling the kneelers SOBs, etc.

Looks like they want to subpeona Pence too. Good!

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2018 • 7:39:04am

re: #304 JordanRules

Looks like they want to subpeona Pence too. Good!

Yeah Pence has been pretty involved in this too.

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electrotek  Jun 7, 2018 • 7:40:50am

re: #294 Big Beautiful Door

Buchanan was the proto-Trump; they basically ran on the same issues opposing the Bush GOP’s policies of free trade, immigration and neo-conservative foreign policy.

I mainly supported Buchanan during the Bush years because of his steadfast opposition to Bush’s foreign policy and the Iraq war. I’ve mentioned this before, but back then I was yearning for conservative voices that were adamantly anti-war and back then I felt he was a breath of fresh air.

Of course, it was all a smokescreen to cover up his real worldview and after his disgusting Op-Ed he published stating “Breivik may be right”, I immediately turned against him right away and have hated his guts ever since.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2018 • 7:42:22am

re: #306 electrotek

I mainly supported Buchanan during the Bush years because of his steadfast opposition to Bush’s foreign policy and the Iraq war. I’ve mentioned this before, but back then I was yearning for conservative voices that were adamantly anti-war and back then I felt he was a breath of fresh air.

Of course, it was all a smokescreen to cover up his real worldview and after his disgusting Op-Ed he published stating “Breivik may be right”, I immediately turned against him right away and have hated his guts ever since.

A lot of people were drawn to Ron Paul for the same reasons. Truth is as much as I hate the neo-con world view, I hate the paleo-con one even more.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 7, 2018 • 7:44:35am

And after all that drama earlier today in the UK, this happens:

Basically, “LOL no. Try again.”

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2018 • 7:45:07am

re: #246 Bubblehead II

Morning. Look a Squirrel!

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Morning.

So, I’d be interested how that little bugger got out of hanging there after it was finished eating bird seed? Did it just drop to the ground, or was it able to somehow get back up on the roof?

By the way…my first comment today is about a squirrel, and that comes after catching up to the thread a bit.

Everything else is just too gloomy as far as politics. And sports. R.I.P. Cleveland Cavs. Been nice knowing you LeBron.

Sigh.

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electrotek  Jun 7, 2018 • 7:45:58am

re: #307 HappyWarrior

A lot of people were drawn to Ron Paul for the same reasons. Truth is as much as I hate the neo-con world view, I hate the paleo-con one even more.

Paleocons are bigger Islamophobes than neocons IMO.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jun 7, 2018 • 7:46:38am

re: #306 electrotek

I mainly supported Buchanan during the Bush years because of his steadfast opposition to Bush’s foreign policy and the Iraq war. I’ve mentioned this before, but back then I was yearning for conservative voices that were adamantly anti-war and back then I felt he was a breath of fresh air.

Of course, it was all a smokescreen to cover up his real worldview and after his disgusting Op-Ed he published stating “Breivik may be right”, I immediately turned against him right away and have hated his guts ever since.

Buchanan was right about the Iraq War, but he’s a fascist. Glad you saw the light; I knew Buchanan was toxic, but I didn’t know he had gone so far as to support a mass killer. Here it is.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2018 • 7:48:40am

re: #310 electrotek

Paleocons are bigger Islamophobes than neocons IMO.

They are, I agree. And Paul’s silence on the Trump administration’s treatment of immigrants is reflecting of his lack of character.

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2018 • 7:48:54am

re: #253 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There is language that allows such an interpretation and that is what they are running with.

The Twist - Chubby Checker

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2018 • 7:59:16am

re: #306 electrotek

I mainly supported Buchanan during the Bush years because of his steadfast opposition to Bush’s foreign policy and the Iraq war. I’ve mentioned this before, but back then I was yearning for conservative voices that were adamantly anti-war and back then I felt he was a breath of fresh air.

Of course, it was all a smokescreen to cover up his real worldview and after his disgusting Op-Ed he published stating “Breivik may be right”, I immediately turned against him right away and have hated his guts ever since.

Not a criticism of you, you were probably pretty young then, but had you learned a bit more about Buchanan, even his opposition to Bush foreign policy would not have been enough to ever support him.

His whole career is odious at best.

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Dave In Austin  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:00:48am
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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:00:56am

re: #314 ObserverArt

Not a criticism of you, you were probably pretty young then, but had you learned a bit more about Buchanan, even his opposition to Bush foreign policy would not have been enough to ever support him.

His whole career is odious at best.

Buchanan’s speech at the ‘92 convention was what convinced me that Conservatives aren’t just lagging behind normal people, they’re intentionally malicious.

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electrotek  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:00:56am

re: #314 ObserverArt

Not a criticism of you, you were probably pretty young then, but had you learned a bit more about Buchanan, even his opposition to Bush foreign policy would not have been enough to ever support him.

His whole career is odious at best.

Yeah it was in my late teens and early to mid 20’s.

Hell, he even criticized the Danish cartoons of the Prophet in 2006.

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:02:58am

re: #317 electrotek

Yeah it was in my late teens and early to mid 20’s.

Hell, he even criticized the Danish cartoons of the Prophet in 2006.

Pat Buchanan has been consistent. He hates everyone that isn’t a White Christian ultra-conservative.

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b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:04:48am
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Bubblehead II  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:05:19am

re: #309 ObserverArt

Morning.

So, I’d be interested how that little bugger got out of hanging there after it was finished eating bird seed? Did it just drop to the ground, or was it able to somehow get back up on the roof?

By the way…my first comment today is about a squirrel, and that comes after catching up to the thread a bit.

Everything else is just too gloomy as far as politics. And sports. R.I.P. Cleveland Cavs. Been nice knowing you LeBron.

Sigh.

It dropped down onto the privacy lattice and then climbed down the fence pole. Same way it gets up on the roof to hunt for pine cones. It was drinking nectar from the Humming bird feeder

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SpikeDad  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:06:00am

re: #267 William Lewis

If I move anywhere for “retirement”, it will be to Bisbee, Arizona. Fell in love with it while stationed at Ft. Huachuca.

Just watched a documentary on the Africanized Honey Bee - seems Bisbee is ground zero for them. And full of wackadoodles. And Republicans.

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sagehen  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:07:34am

re: #316 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Buchanan’s speech at the ‘92 convention was what convinced me that Conservatives aren’t just lagging behind normal people, they’re intentionally malicious.

Was it Ann Richards or Molly Evans whose comment on that speech was “it sounded better in the original German”?

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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:08:35am

re: #316 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Buchanan’s speech at the ‘92 convention was what convinced me that Conservatives aren’t just lagging behind normal people, they’re intentionally malicious.

Yeah. I hear a lot of people remark as such about that speech (a hate speech). It was a couple years before I could vote; I knew he was a POS bigot. And it was really messed up that MSNBC gave him a job.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:08:47am

re: #322 sagehen

Was it Ann Richards or Molly Evans whose comment on that speech was “it sounded better in the original German”?

Molly Ivins.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:09:47am

re: #293 A dark and stormy covfefe

I just did my bit to keep Doug Ford out of the Premier’s office in Ontario.

We seem to have a few Canadians on LGF. Sweet!! Talked to my Sister last night. She lives in Mississauga but didn’t mention the election at all. Hope she’s planning to vote.

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electrotek  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:11:00am

Morrissey really needs to shut the fuck up before he does long-lasting damage to The Smiths legacy.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:12:35am

re: #294 Big Beautiful Door

Buchanan was the proto-Trump; they basically ran on the same issues opposing the Bush GOP’s policies of free trade, immigration and neo-conservative foreign policy.

Don’t forget that Buchanan basically supported the Nazis during WWII. amazon.com
en.wikipedia.org

The only point on which he was correct was the corrosive effects of the Treaty of Versailles. Other than that, Buchanan is racist and anti-Semitic to his core.

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:12:57am

re: #320 Bubblehead II

It dropped down onto the privacy lattice and then climbed down the fence pole. Same way it gets up on the roof to hunt for pine cones. It was drinking nectar from the Humming bird feeder

Thanks for the clarity on the nectar. I wasn’t being as Observant as I should have been. Too busy looking at how the squirrel was hanging there like it was. They amaze me sometimes.

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lawhawk  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:15:35am
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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:15:39am

re: #319 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:16:13am

re: #329 lawhawk

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Never because you obstructed.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:16:27am

such a moron

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:17:05am

re: #330 JordanRules

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That’s rich buddy, declaring you’re going to persecute people and then claim you’re going to be the one persecuted. Stop being such a fucking whiny tool and sell to anyone regardless of their orientation. I hope your store goes bankrupt.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:17:44am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

such a moron

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God just shut the fuck up Donnie. You don’t know a thing about cybersecurity.

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dangerman  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:18:42am

re: #334 HappyWarrior

God just shut the fuck up Donnie. You don’t know a thing about cybersecurity.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:18:59am

re: #191 Cheechako

This tornado was about 9 miles north of Laramie, WY this afternoon:

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:19:56am

re: #330 JordanRules

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He believes “gays” shouldn’t do home improvement projects?

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lawhawk  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:20:07am

re: #336 Backwoods_Sleuth

god punishing the hinterlands for voting for the tangerine toddler. ////////////////// <-sarcasm for the sarcastically challenged.

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lawhawk  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:20:52am

re: #337 Barefoot Grin

He believes that he shouldn’t profit from gays doing home improvement.

That’s a solid business strategy.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:21:02am

re: #337 Barefoot Grin

He believes “gays” shouldn’t do home improvement projects?

Probably. Dude’s got issues.

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mmmirele  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:21:15am

re: #203 freetoken

Can you page this? It’s better research than I was going to do for a page.

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electrotek  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:22:10am

This stood out for me:

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:24:02am

re: #332 Backwoods_Sleuth

such a moron

He seems really anxious to change the subject, suppress any investigations into himself.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:24:43am

re: #342 electrotek

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People just don’t see that Muslims like Christians can have diversity of views. I mean you have a religion that has over 1 billion believers in it worldwide, there’s inevitably going to be some diversity of thought.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:25:01am

re: #343 Sir John Barron

He seems really anxious to change the subject, suppress any investigations into himself.

Because he knows how guilty he really is.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:26:43am
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lawhawk  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:28:47am
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Jay C  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:28:48am

re: #339 lawhawk

He believes that he shouldn’t profit from gays doing home improvement.

That’s a solid business strategy.

First, he probably (well, duuh! obviously!) doesn’t care about gays’ business.
Second: he probably figures that he’ll make up for any lost trade by bringing in flocks of “Christian” wingers impressed by his “courageous” “godly” stand against the evil homos.
Third: (assuming he’s even thinking that far ahead): he probably also figures he’ll be able to leverage his “persecution” into profits on the wingnut-welfare circuit even if it harms his business.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:28:49am
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electrotek  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:29:28am

re: #344 HappyWarrior

People just don’t see that Muslims like Christians can have diversity of views. I mean you have a religion that has over 1 billion believers in it worldwide, there’s inevitably going to be some diversity of thought.

And not to mention that gay Muslims DO exist, who proudly identify as Muslim.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:31:19am

re: #347 lawhawk

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What? Charlie Kirk being a hypocritical douche, what is the world coming to!

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Bubblehead II  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:31:29am

re: #328 ObserverArt

Thanks for the clarity on the nectar. I wasn’t being as Observant as I should have been. Too busy looking at how the squirrel was hanging there like it was. They amaze me sometimes.

They are quite the ingenious little critters. Have been tempted to put up a clear piece of plexiglass were it was hanging from to see how long it would take it to find a way around it.

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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:33:41am
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Jay C  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:34:58am

re: #344 HappyWarrior

People just don’t see that Muslims like Christians can have diversity of views. I mean you have a religion that has over 1 billion believers in it worldwide, there’s inevitably going to be some diversity of thought.

True, but also: Mona Eltahawy’s comments don’t seem to relate to Muslim beliefs, practices or attitudes per se, but rather on Americans’ opinions OF Muslims (especially those in the US)

Though Ms. E’s first tweet seems rather badly-composed: shouldn’t the figure she cites be related to the percentages of Americans, not “Muslim-Americans” who hold beliefs about “fitting in”, etc.?

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Barefoot Grin  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:35:06am

Trump is such a little bitch:

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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:35:21am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:36:14am

re: #354 Jay C

True, but also: Mona Eltahawy’s comments don’t seem to relate to Muslim beliefs, practices or attitudes per se, but rather on Americans’ opinions OF Muslims (especially those in the US)

Though Ms. E’s first tweet seems rather badly-composed: shouldn’t the figure she cites be related to the percentages of Americans, not “Muslim-Americans” who hold beliefs about “fitting in”, etc.?

Oh yes, I do see that, I was talking about non-Muslim Americans perceptions though of what American Muslims believe.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:37:15am

re: #355 Barefoot Grin

Trump is such a little bitch:

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You know, Donald, you didn’t have to run for President. No one forced you to but I get it, you don’t like being told when you’re wrong ever because you never learned how to take criticism like a grown man.

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Belafon  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:37:26am

re: #171 De Kolta Chair

‘Night kids, and here’s your moment of Jack Kirby…

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Why don’t they put the year in the date at the top?

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lawhawk  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:38:03am

re: #355 Barefoot Grin

America First has turned into America Alone.

The G-7 is going to be G-6 plus Trump.

That doesn’t help America. It undermines America’s leadership and ability to shape economic and security policy.

Trump fucks over our allies and trading partners at every turn while Russia and China fill the vacuum.

Everyone sees what Trump’s doing. Only Trumpworld thinks that this helps.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:40:09am

A Newport woman remains jailed and charged with murder in an alcohol-related crash that killed a former leader of a white supremacist organization in Northern Kentucky.

Emily Sherry, 23, will appear in a Newport courtroom on Thursday for a preliminary hearing. Her blood-alcohol level was 0.422, more than five times the legal limit to drive, when her car struck another vehicle driven by Robert Ransdell, according to the citation written by Wilder Police.

The April 21 crash happened eastbound on Interstate 275 in Wilder. Police officers spotted Sherry’s car off the highway into a woods. Ransdell, 37, of Florence, was found dead underneath the vehicle. The Campbell County coroner ruled he died of blunt force trauma.

Ransdell made headlines and provoked anger with his involvement in Northern Kentucky with the National Alliance. He ran an anti-Semitic write-in campaign for U.S. Senate in Kentucky in 2014 against U.S. Sen. Mitch McConnell. Ransdell’s campaign slogan was “With Jews, we lose.”

Ransdell was the Cincinnati coordinator of the National Alliance.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:41:25am

re: #360 lawhawk

America First has turned into America Alone.

The G-7 is going to be G-6 plus Trump.

That doesn’t help America. It undermines America’s leadership and ability to shape economic and security policy.

Trump is our walking, talking Brexit.

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gwangung  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:41:39am

re: #360 lawhawk

America First has turned into America Alone.

The G-7 is going to be G-6 plus Trump.

That doesn’t help America. It undermines America’s leadership and ability to shape economic and security policy.

Trump fucks over our allies and trading partners at every turn while Russia and China fill the vacuum.

Everyone sees what Trump’s doing. Only Trumpworld thinks that this helps.

This is after years of claiming Obama and Clinton have stabbed allies in the back and lowered our standing in the world. They’re showing us how to REALLY betray allies and lower our image.

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:42:42am

This shit is even more frustrating than how the Bush administration treated allies.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:44:55am

re: #355 Barefoot Grin

Trump is such a little bitch:

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Nobody there is going to talk to him anyway.
He’ll just sit all alone, being ignored.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:45:31am

re: #364 HappyWarrior

This shit is even more frustrating than how the Bush administration treated allies.

like our “allies” the Saudis, who gave us Bin Laden and 15 of the 19 9/11 assailants?

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lawhawk  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:45:52am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:47:40am

re: #303 JordanRules

Wow, what a thread!!

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Is Edward Snowden the Secret Square?

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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:47:42am

re: #366 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

like our “allies” the Saudis, who gave us Bin Laden and 15 of the 19 9/11 assailants?

I was actually referring to how they treated France and Germany for opposing Iraq.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:48:34am
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Belafon  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:49:31am

re: #240 Dave In Austin

And another one….

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usnews.com

I’m going to keep saying this from now on: The only good way to change this is for better people to join the police force.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:50:08am
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Dave In Austin  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:51:09am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:51:11am

re: #372 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I smell Adelson here honestly. FP really isn’t the Koch’s thing.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:51:47am
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HappyWarrior  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:51:55am

re: #370 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I think it would be too funny if Lumpy spent some time behind bars or at a court room because he got too involved with this.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:53:52am
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Belafon  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:55:55am

re: #295 JordanRules

So he’s probably going to love this.

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Except he should have had no clothes on in the mirror.

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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:57:04am

Oops!!!

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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:57:51am

re: #378 Belafon

Except he should have had no clothes on in the mirror.

Yes!!!! And he would undoubtedly hate that!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2018 • 8:58:45am

this is just pathetic

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:00:42am

re: #376 HappyWarrior

I think it would be too funny if Lumpy spent some time behind bars or at a court room because he got too involved with this.

Even if Lumpy got no time at all, the spectacle of him being frog-marched before the cameras would be entirely worth it.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:01:37am

LOL

MSNBC host Mika Brzezinski accused President Trump on Thursday of complaining that he can’t watch porn in the White House.

Brzezinski, who has been in a vicious feud with Trump for most of his presidency, made the extraordinary charge while appearing on “MSNBC Live with Stephanie Ruhle,” citing “someone who spoke” to Trump about his life in the White House.

The comments came up after Ruhle interviewed Michael Avenatti, the attorney for adult film actress Stormy Daniels, over remarks by Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani about his client. Giuliani attacked the credibility of Daniels, saying that “if you’re going to sell your body for money, you just don’t have a reputation.”

“The hypocrisy is astounding,” Brzezinski said of Giuliani’s remarks about Daniels, who says that she slept with Trump and was paid to keep quiet.

“Because I know someone who spoke to Donald Trump recently about life in the White House,” Brzezinski continued, “and Donald Trump’s biggest complaint was that he’s not allowed to watch porn in the White House.”

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Dave In Austin  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:03:01am

Something must be getting ready to go down. This is REALLY REALLY not normal.

And here’s another outrage. I think my outrage counter is somewhere in the mid 30’s right now.

The day is young!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:04:50am
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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:06:09am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:06:23am

re: #369 HappyWarrior

I was actually referring to how they treated France and Germany for opposing Iraq.

that, too.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:08:47am

re: #379 JordanRules

Oops!!!

[Embedded content]

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:15:44am

re: #374 HappyWarrior

I smell Adelson here honestly. FP really isn’t the Koch’s thing.

Do the Koch Bros care about anything other than destroying the planet to enrich themselves and reducing taxes on the wealthy? I don’t believe they support the rest of the right wing agenda.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:16:29am
391
Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:18:42am
392
Belafon  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:19:23am

re: #390 Backwoods_Sleuth

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William Lewis  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:20:48am

re: #319 b.d. (Witch Hunt!!)

Amen

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Jay C  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:20:56am

re: #390 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

So I guess this will spark a flurry of “Republicans In Disarray” pieces in the media, right??

(Note: this IS sarc……)

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:20:59am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:22:07am
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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:23:00am

re: #355 Barefoot Grin

Trump is such a little bitch:

Probable Trump: “Women are not leader’s and I will never listen to a woman criticize Trump.”

Women of America…please help us save our country!

Kick this fat ass misogynist to the curb.

Help by voting for Democrats everywhere you can to take away his political protection in the Republican majority in congress. Then be sure to eliminate him in 2020…if he is not gone by then.

Many men will thank you.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:23:59am
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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:24:10am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:25:01am
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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:26:55am

re: #361 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

.422 blood alcohol reading!

How was she even able to get in her car? That is high enough to stop her heart isn’t it?

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:31:01am

re: #375 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Jeff “We call BS” Furlington
@FurlingtonJeff
Hannity is the dumbest man on television.

11:51 AM - Jun 7, 2018

Dumb, yet dangerous. If he was gone from Fox, that would help the political atmosphere so much.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:32:16am

re: #401 ObserverArt

.422 blood alcohol reading!

How was she even able to get in her car? That is high enough to stop her heart isn’t it?

and she got that drunk WHILE BABYSITTING!

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I cannot.  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:33:15am

re: #401 ObserverArt

I knew a guy who was a major drinker. He had his own breathalyzer.

He blew so high that it gave an error message. He called his girlfriend.

She couldn’t tell he was even drunk.

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lawhawk  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:33:37am

re: #391 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:33:43am
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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:34:58am

Thread from yesterday…

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Belafon  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:35:59am
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Belafon  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:37:16am
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Belafon  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:37:41am

re: #407 JordanRules

Thread from yesterday…

[Embedded content]

But no Democrats are speaking up! I’ve heard it here.

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EPR-radar  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:41:15am

re: #316 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Buchanan’s speech at the ‘92 convention was what convinced me that Conservatives aren’t just lagging behind normal people, they’re intentionally malicious.

I’ve mentioned this before, but my grandfather (normally a staunch Republican) viewed Buchanan as engaging in Nazi talk after the ‘92 speech.

Since grandpa had the political acumen to flee Germany before the Nazis seized power, he knew what he was talking about with respect to Nazi talk.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:41:18am
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Dr. Matt  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:41:59am

re: #409 Belafon

When will someone remind Rudy that Melanie Trump did a lesbian porn photoshoot?

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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:45:10am
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lawhawk  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:45:21am

re: #413 Dr. Matt

Right around the same time that someone will remind the Christian right that Trump lusted after his then teen daughter and they were perfectly fine with it (along with the admitted sex predator behaviors, sex assaults, harassment, and multiple divorces, extramarital affairs, etc.)

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Stanley Sea  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:46:27am

re: #414 JordanRules

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lawhawk  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:46:32am
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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:46:49am
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lawhawk  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:50:12am
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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:52:23am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:52:43am

re: #392 Belafon

Imagine telling Eisenhower that the party that would go full Soviet would be the Republican Party.

It is a big mistake to even compare modern Russia with the Soviet Union, a country that has not existed now for 26 years. And talk of a “New Cold War” is also misleading: Putin is not pushing an international ideology, he is pursuing Russia’s national interests.

Those correspond more to the interests of the old Russian Empire and the millions of ethnic Russians who were stranded outside Russia with the breakup of the USSR.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:55:21am
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gocart mozart  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:57:04am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:57:40am

:D

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2018 • 9:59:56am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:01:13am
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makeitstop  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:02:19am

re: #358 HappyWarrior

You know, Donald, you didn’t have to run for President. No one forced you to but I get it, you don’t like being told when you’re wrong ever by a woman because you never learned how to take criticism like a grown man.

Fixed that.

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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:03:47am

I always like to remind myself that in addition to having to talk about the issues and represent us vocally, elected officials have to do the actual work and be regular people with families etc.

Yes, they have staffers and such, but Democrats by nature have to do more of the work. There is no big lobby in service to profits to carry the load on a lot the issues we champion. And there is a lot of work to be done.

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:04:50am

re: #414 JordanRules

“How do we know where these kids were sent? Do we look like the government?”

/

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lawhawk  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:04:58am

re: #426 Backwoods_Sleuth

But her emails.
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Belafon  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:06:28am

re: #421 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

It is a big mistake to even compare modern Russia with the Soviet Union, a country that has not existed now for 26 years. And talk of a “New Cold War” is also misleading: Putin is not pushing an international ideology, he is pursuing Russia’s national interests.

Those correspond more to the interests of the old Russian Empire and the millions of ethnic Russians who were stranded outside Russia with the breakup of the USSR.

I’m only talking about the party punishing members for not being sufficiently loyal to dear leader.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:06:53am
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Interesting Times  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:07:08am

Welp…

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:07:35am

re: #405 lawhawk

Really worth reading: WaPo got audio of Trump’s closed-door FEMA “hurricane briefing,” in which Trump just rambled about midterm polls, the economy, Foxconn, coal, the popularity of his cabinet, Air Force One, and aircraft technology, among other things. washingtonpost.com

— Daniel Dale

Fox News probably: these media leaks are terrible.

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Belafon  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:07:36am

re: #422 Backwoods_Sleuth

Good on Newsom. The only “Democrats in disarray” is the guy in Vermont who refuses to be one.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:08:31am

re: #432 Backwoods_Sleuth

f you could use a renewal of your faith in America’s promise…

This year, Boston Public Schools’ 36 valedictorians were born in 10 different countries. 42% were born outside the U.S. 69% are female. 47% will be the first in their families to go to college.

Congrats to all.

If that ain’t the American Dream personified, then I don’t know what is.

My parents were children of immigrants, finished high school but managed to send all of their children to college.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:09:35am

re: #433 Interesting Times

From “Lost Tycoon” by Harry Hurt III, published in 1993. Author claims Trump is confused about how to have sex with women.

whereas according to accounts, Bill Clinton “ate pussy like a champ”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:10:16am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:10:40am

re: #390 Backwoods_Sleuth

The only GOP value is supporting druMpf.

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Belafon  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:10:58am

re: #432 Backwoods_Sleuth

How are white American males supposed to have a chance against kids who work hard?

Congrats to all of them.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:12:03am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:12:18am

re: #438 Backwoods_Sleuth

Drain The Swamp Week is going great.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:12:50am
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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:13:10am

re: #441 Backwoods_Sleuth

“I gave them this little island with all the volcanoes, total Win Win.”

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Sir John Barron  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:13:39am

re: #443 Backwoods_Sleuth

So he’ll definitely be playing golf during the summit then.

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Belafon  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:14:30am

re: #441 Backwoods_Sleuth

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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:16:05am

re: #446 Belafon

[Embedded content]

A+++++++

ROFL!

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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:16:54am
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Belafon  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:16:56am

I bought a Google Home thinking that Google would do stuff with it, but Amazon and Alexa are kicking it’s butt. They now have a box so you can voice control the TV. The ad had me hooked at “Alexa, switch to cable.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:17:20am

jeebus

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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:19:42am

re: #450 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

[Embedded content]

My heart stopped for a second as I read this.

November please.

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jaunte  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:20:06am

re: #450 Backwoods_Sleuth

JFC

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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:20:23am

re: #425 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Trump, Sean Hannity, Dennis Rodman.

What could possibly go wrong?

The first reality TV star international negotiation ever.

Oh, what a mess we are in.

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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:21:40am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:21:48am
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Dr Lizardo  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:22:00am

re: #450 Backwoods_Sleuth

jeebus

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jaunte  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:28:17am
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makeitstop  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:29:55am

I mentioned yesterday that we were going to see the great Frank Turner and the Sleeping Souls in NYC last night. The show, as expected, was by turns hilarious and poignant (Frank was appearing despite a death in his close family), and the band rocked hard. I urge Lizards everywhere to go and see this band if given the chance. You’ll love him as much as my wife and I do.

He introduced a new song last night called - wait for it - ‘Make America Great Again,’ and it was fantastic. Here are the lyrics:

Well I know I’m just an ignorant Englishman
But I’d like to make America great again
So if you’ll forgive my accent and the cheek of it
Here’s some suggestions from the special relationship

Let’s make America great again
By making racists ashamed again
Let’s make compassion in fashion again
Let’s make America great again

Well I’ve been fortunate to go ‘round the continent
From California through the midwest and Providence
And I’ve mostly only encountered common sense
Hospitality and warmth from Americans

But I wish it was a bit less significant
The program and the name of the President
Because it seems to me the truth is self-evident
You fought our king to be independent

Make America great again
By making racists ashamed again
Let’s make compassion in fashion again
Let’s make America great again

Ellis Island take me in
Everyone can start again
In the shining city on the hill
Where nobody can be illegal

Let’s make America great again
By making racists ashamed again
Let’s make compassion in fashion again
Let’s make America great again

Let’s be a friend to our oldest friends
And call them out when they’re faltering
Remind them of their best selves and then
We’ll make America great again

Here’s the video, shot in Austin during SXSW. Fuckin’ love this guy.

Frank Turner - Make America Great Again (Official Video)

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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:31:06am

Another source for one strand of their projection strategy/sociopathy.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:37:05am

re: #436 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If that ain’t the American Dream personified, then I don’t know what is.

My parents were children of immigrants, finished high school but managed to send all of their children to college.

Similar here except my father dropped out of high school. But all three of us graduated college.

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jaunte  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:42:49am

Among the complex details of Trumpish corruption and denial, David Corn urges us to keep the simple truth in mind:

“…the accurate perspective…isn’t that complicated. In 2016, Vladimir Putin’s regime mounted information warfare against the United States, in part to help Trump become president. While this attack was underway, the Trump crew tried to collude covertly with Moscow, sought to set up a secret communications channel with Putin’s office, and repeatedly denied in public that this assault was happening, providing cover to the Russian operation. Trump and his lieutenants aligned themselves with and assisted a foreign adversary, as it was attacking the United States. The evidence is rock-solid: They committed a profound act of betrayal. That is the scandal.<
motherjones.com;

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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:49:04am

re: #458 makeitstop

What a wonderful song!

463
Teukka  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:49:36am

re: #461 jaunte

Among the complex details of Trumpish corruption and denial, David Corn urges us to keep the simple truth in mind:

Why do they not call it what it is, suspected aggravated treason?

464
Dr. Matt  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:50:41am

Latest Nazi Talking Point: Melanie Trump’s lesbian porn star photoshoot is irrelevant because she didn’t have sex.

465
Hecuba's daughter  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:57:18am

re: #397 ObserverArt

Probable Trump: “Women are not leader’s and I will never listen to a woman criticize Trump.”

Women of America…please help us save our country!

Kick this fat ass misogynist to the curb.

Help by voting for Democrats everywhere you can to take away his political protection in the Republican majority in congress. Then be sure to eliminate him in 2020…if he is not gone by then.

Many men will thank you.

Unfortunately, still a minority — a substantial majority of white men remain fanatic Trump supporters.

466
JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 10:59:49am
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Belafon  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:00:07am

re: #465 Hecuba’s daughter

Unfortunately, still a minority — a substantial majority of white men remain fanatic Trump supporters.

There’s not much this white man can do about the rest of them except not act like them, and make sure they’re not the majority of Americans.

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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:00:34am
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gocart mozart  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:01:58am
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makeitstop  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:02:00am

Shameless promotion: I paged the Frank Turner song.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:02:15am

re: #468 JordanRules

In 1984, Trump proclaimed he wanted to dictate nuclear weapons policy with the Soviets and that he’d learn everything he needed to know about them in an hour and a half.

He obviously did not take that hour and a half because when asked about it, he was unaware of the term “nuclear triad”.

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gocart mozart  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:04:36am
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jaunte  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:05:10am

re: #468 JordanRules

“he’d learn everything he needed to know about them in an hour and a half”

…of Trump talking for an hour and twenty seven minutes, with three minutes for briefers to attempt a facts injection.

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makeitstop  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:08:06am

re: #462 JordanRules

What a wonderful song!

He’s just great. I tell everyone that he’ll be compared to Elvis Costello, possibly Dylan, before he’s done.

He wrote this one right after the election.

The Sand In The Gears

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gocart mozart  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:08:46am
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dangerman  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:10:36am

lore: #378 Belafon

Except he should have had no clothes on in the mirror.

no please, no!!!!!!!

thank god for make trump kittens again

477
jaunte  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:10:37am

Top track speed of 301 mph.
Base price $1.6 million.
24 will be made. According to Hennessey reps half of those are already spoken for.
The 1% say thanks for the tax break, MAGA suckers.

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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:11:52am
479
Belafon  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:12:39am

Looking at this tweet:

That whole section of the Island will be uninhabitable unless some major undertaking is completed after the lava stops flowing.

480
JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:12:59am
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dangerman  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:13:05am

re: #391 Backwoods_Sleuth

NEW: The United States will send emergency aid to Guatemala amid ongoing Fuego Volcano eruption, “including financial resources to help meet food, water, and sanitation needs for the affected population

“oh, and puerto rico can just eff itself”

482
Belafon  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:14:24am

re: #476 dangerman

lo

no please, no!!!!!!!

thank god for make trump kittens again

In the pictures with the stories I read as a kid, the king wasn’t actually nude. Instead, he was wearing long johns.

483
BeachDem  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:14:48am

re: #365 Backwoods_Sleuth

Nobody there is going to talk to him anyway.
He’ll just sit all alone, being ignored.

Kinda a rerun of the G20

484
jaunte  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:17:42am
485
ckkatz  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:19:06am

re: #224 Blind Frog Belly White

Mrs. FBW and I have arrived in Pennsyltucky for Dad’s 100th birthday celebration. The vibrant green of all the vegetation is seductive, as California dries outfor summer.

We’re thinking about retiring here, since it’s so much cheaper. Question is, are we too Californicated?

Not sure where in Pa you are looking. But, you may wish to spend a few months in the area where you are thinking of retiring. Including over the winter. For example, the quality of light in the Appalachians, may not match California’s.

And the support infrastructure, such as medical, or even store locations, may be less capable.

By the way, I grew up in Pittsburgh.

486
jaunte  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:20:24am
487
Dave In Austin  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:21:58am

Where do we draw the line?

488
jaunte  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:22:47am
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Jay C  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:22:47am

re: #486 jaunte

How does this man still have a job?

Let’s go to the acronym bank for an answer:

IOKIYAR

SATSQ.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:25:35am
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jaunte  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:26:07am
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:28:59am

re: #491 jaunte

[Embedded content]

So he’s into the anointing with oil shtick…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:35:34am
Valve will no longer remove games from its Steam game marketplace unless they are “illegal, or straight up trolling,” according to a statement from the Bellevue, Wash.-based gaming company posted today.

The announcement comes a week after Valve removed a controversial game that simulated school shootings, following a nationwide outcry to ban the title. Last month it also issued warnings to developers about adult content in games.

In its blog post, Valve executive Erik Johnson writes that “Valve shouldn’t be the ones deciding this.”

“If you’re a player, we shouldn’t be choosing for you what content you can or can’t buy,” it reads. “If you’re a developer, we shouldn’t be choosing what content you’re allowed to create. Those choices should be yours to make. Our role should be to provide systems and tools to support your efforts to make these choices for yourself, and to help you do it in a way that makes you feel comfortable.”

Valve said it will create tools to let users “override our recommendation algorithms and hide games containing the topics you’re not interested in.”

“And it’s not just players that need better tools either - developers who build controversial content shouldn’t have to deal with harassment because their game exists, and we’ll be building tools and options to support them too,” Johnson wrote.

geekwire.com

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:36:25am

re: #492 Joe Bacon 🌹

So he’s into the anointing with oil shtick…

Maybe he just has dry skin.

495
JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:37:52am

re: #493 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

So are they unbanning the school shooting “game”?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:38:39am

re: #494 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

Maybe he just has dry skin.

Or his fantasy is to get oiled up in a posing suit and pretend that he’s in the Mr. Olympia contest…

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:39:22am

re: #495 JordanRules

So are they unbanning the school shooting “game”?

No, they consider that one to be trolling.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:40:02am

re: #496 Joe Bacon 🌹

Or his fantasy is to get oiled up in a posing suit and pretend that he’s in the Mr. Olympia contest…

Could be. He could also need the lubrication to get into the gimp suit.

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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:41:53am

re: #497 Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis

No, they consider that one to be trolling.

Interesting! I read some of the story on how it came to be and there seems to be some trolling dynamics in play.

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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:43:53am
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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:46:42am
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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:47:24am
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ObserverArt  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:48:00am

re: #465 Hecuba’s daughter

Unfortunately, still a minority — a substantial majority of white men remain fanatic Trump supporters.

You often add a different take to my comments.

I wasn’t even talking about that majority of white men directly in my post. In a way, I wasn’t really talking about men. Too many men are the problem.

What I was saying is I hope women help get Trump out in the next election. I am hoping women, even those that may be conservative, grow sick of the pig called Donald Trump.

Add them to the people of color and the men that will vote against Trump and maybe the Democrats get a big majority that kill any reelection of said pig.

Then, the men that hate Trump will be saved by more women ganging up on Trump and the country gets past the Trump years so we can get back to rebuilding what we all have lost.

As far as that majority of white men that support Trump - Fuck ‘em. And I say that as a white man.

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Aucun pays pour les vieux ennemis  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:50:31am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:54:04am
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Dave In Austin  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:54:57am
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JordanRules  Jun 7, 2018 • 11:57:20am

Very cool!

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Jay C  Jun 7, 2018 • 12:03:05pm

re: #488 jaunte

politico.com

Much as I’d love to see The Littlest Rebel get the boot from Justice (I picture Sessions glooming on the curb outside DoJ with the Stars and Bars drooping forlornly from a cardboard box of his office junk), Trump would have be to even more nuts than his worst caricature to think that he could get Jeanine Pirro nominated in his stead. Not that he wouldn’t try, of course (especially if strongly advised against it) - but (just IMO), it would probably end up like most things in Pirro’s career: Epic Fail.

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dangerman  Jun 7, 2018 • 12:14:04pm

re: #482 Belafon

In the pictures with the stories I read as a kid, the king wasn’t actually nude. Instead, he was wearing long johns.

this isnt helping


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ICE Spokesman in SF Resigns and Slams Trump Administration Officials Full disclosure, old story, March 2018. Posted today as it "goes to credibility" as the legal guys like to say, at least on TV. The administration is not to be expected to tell the truth at any point short ...
Unshaken Defiance
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“Did You Even READ the Piece?” This Startup Wants to Make That Question Obsolete for Commentors Let’s be honest: Are you going to read this or skim this? In a land of feeds, tidbits, and bullet points, readers don’t often get to the end of a piece — let alone absorb each sentence along the ...
Thanos
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Young the Giant: Simplify (Official Audio) Young The Giant's official audio for their new single 'Simplify' - available now. Download / Stream 'Simplify': lnk.to Catch Young The Giant on Tour this fall with very special guest Lights!More info at: youngthegiant.com Site: youngthegiant.comFacebook: facebook.comTwitter: @youngthegiantInstagram: instagram.comYouTube: ...
Thanos
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Traveller - ‘Nobody Makes It Out’ (Live at WFUV)wfuv.org • Follow @wfuv: ow.ly Traveller performs "Nobody Makes It Out" live in Studio A. Recorded 5.9.18. Host: Alisa AliAudio: Caroline InzucchiCameras: Kristal Ho, Brian Gallagher & Kaylee KurkierewiczEditors: Kaylee Kurkierewicz & Brian Gallagher
Thanos
2 days, 20 hours ago
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Fantastic Negrito - the Duffler (Official Video) ‘The Duffler’ is taken from Fantastic Negrito's brand new album 'Please Don't Be Dead' out now. Order your copy here: fn.lnk.to Director: Freddy Macdonald Producer: Fred MacdonaldCinematographer: Sebastian KlingerEditor: Freddy MacdonaldProduction Company: Macdonald Entertainment Partners Check here for Fantastic ...
Thanos
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Facebook’s Screening for Political Ads Nabs News Sites… One ad couldn’t have been more obviously political. Targeted to people aged 18 and older, it urged them to “vote YES” on June 5 on a ballot proposition to issue bonds for schools in a district near San Francisco. ...
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Stanford Prison Experiment: Why Famous Psychology Studies Are Now Being Torn Apart Sometimes pseudoscience makes it through to the text books, most often in the soft and social sciences. A new exposé based on previously unpublished recordings of Philip Zimbardo, the Stanford psychologist who ran the study, and interviews with his ...
Thanos
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Goliath Season 2 - Official Trailer In Season 2 of Goliath, Billy McBride takes on a new case, and the fight spills into the streets of Los Angeles and alleys of Venice Beach.Goliath returns 6/15 on Prime Video. » Stream Goliath 6/15 on Prime Video: ...
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Wild Nothing - Letting Go "Letting Go" is the first single from Wild Nothing's forthcoming album, 'Indigo', out 08/31/2018 on Captured Tracks. Order here: wildnothing.lnk.to Follow Wild Nothing:wildnothingmusic.comwildnothingct.bandcamp.comfacebook.cominstagram.com@WildNothingopen.spotify.com Lyrics:It's getting hard for me to reframe all those shifting memoriesLike a music box that never ...
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