In Which the President* of the US Calls Himself “The Chosen One”

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So far today, Trump has called himself:

  • The Chosen One
  • The King of Israel
  • The Second Coming of God

Just thought you might like to know that the person with his finger on the trigger of America’s nuclear arsenal appears to be losing the last of his marbles.

And that’s only a small selection of the absolutely insane things he’s been saying today.

He also reiterated his antisemitic “disloyal Jews” statements, of course.

And threatened to release “thousands” of ISIS terrorists into European countries.

And used mass shooting victims as pawns to stroke his ego, again.

And said he had a magic solution to veteran suicides — a “stimulant.”

And once again, floated the idea of being president for life. This is not a joke.

And there’s even more, but I have to stop now because I’m feeling a little ill.

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299 comments

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:38:04am

He’s right, chosen by Putin.

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Citizen K  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:38:51am

Today has been the longest month ever.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:39:19am

And the Republican Jewish Committee chimes in.

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retired cynic  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:39:41am

re: #2 Citizen K

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Today has been the longest month ever.

JFC

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:41:20am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:41:59am

I hate Trump but I hate the spineless Republicans who enable him even more.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:42:40am

re: #5 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

“Fox News viewers fly into a rage”

This is basically their business model in seven words.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:45:32am
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William Lewis  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:46:13am

Sigh.

Ah, well, time to make some lunch. Given the conversation the other day, this little blue box with “KRAFT” on it seems just about right :D

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Teddy's Person  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:46:37am

Per usual, Daniel Dale is covering Trump yammering so I don’t have to.

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KGxvi  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:46:38am

He’s the second coming of god? Which one?

It’s been a while since I would label myself as any sort of believer, but enough of my upbringing in Catholicism survives to know that this douchecanoe is not anything like the dude in the gospels.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:47:19am

Trump sounds very low-energy at this AMVET speech.

Trump addresses the American Veterans (AMVETS) 75th national convention

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:47:48am

re: #7 Eclectic Cyborg

“Fox News viewers fly into a rage”

This is basically their business model in seven words.

Wanna see Trumpites really fly into a rage? Play this on endless loop on FNC:

Enrique Iglesias - Bailando (Español) ft. Descemer Bueno, Gente De Zona

LOL

It can’t remember which soap opera used this as their theme song, but that’s where I first heard it.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:48:08am

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Trump sounds very low-energy at this AMVET speech.

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Maybe he used up all the crazy this morning talking to reporters.

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William Lewis  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:49:36am

re: #10 Teddy’s Person

Per usual, Daniel Dale is covering Trump yammering so I don’t have to.

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Ya know, right now even the utter disaster of a military coup almost sounds better than that POS being in the white house a day longer…

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Teddy's Person  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:49:40am
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Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:50:05am
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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:50:39am

re: #16 Teddy’s Person

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For the Nth time, imagine if Obama had ‘joked’ like that.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:51:08am

re: #17 Charles Johnson

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Needs to snort a couple more rails.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:51:18am

re: #17 Charles Johnson

The meds are wearing off.

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Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:51:22am

re: #17 Charles Johnson

I guess he’s not talking about himself. That always slows him down because he has no interest in it.

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lawhawk  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:51:32am

re: #6 Eclectic Cyborg

I hate Trump but I hate the spineless Republicans who enable him even more.

Spineless? They’re down with Trump’s policies and outcomes.

They just don’t have the stomach for being openly bigoted and called out as such. They prefer the polite bigotries of William F. Buckley and other racist rat bastards of olde.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:52:09am

in case you missed it downstairs:

that’s one way to show a packed room…

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makeitstop  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:52:12am

re: #19 Blind Frog Belly White

Needs to snort a couple more rails.

re: #20 Eclectic Cyborg

The meds are wearing off.

I’m thinking he got into that ‘stimulant’ that he’s trying to foist off onto vets.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:52:14am

I picked way more tomatoes than it’s possible for 2 people to eat so I took some over to the next door & across the street neighbors.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:55:17am
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Teddy's Person  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:55:53am

re: #18 Blind Frog Belly White

For the Nth time, imagine if Obama had ‘joked’ like that.

And Trump doesn’t really have anything normal people recognize as a sense of humor. When he laughs, it’s because he finds pleasure in denigrating, humiliating, and/or causing pain in other people. Oh, wait. That’s what passes for humor in today’s conservative circles. They always punch down.

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Danack  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:57:01am

re: #17 Charles Johnson

The whole situation is nuts, but one aspect that is blatantly untenable is the idea that Trump is going to be able to run a second campaign.

He currently has very few official events and has rest days at his resort most weeks.

Today he has two events and only just has enough energy to get him through.

For any campaign, he’s meant be flying around the country holding multiple events for weeks on end? That’s just not physically possible in his state. To be clear, I couldn’t do it either despite being 30 years younger than him, as campaigning is hard work.

The GOP needs to be planning what happens when Trump departs, not just pretending that he’ll be able to make it through.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:57:17am

re: #8 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Reality has a well-known liberal bias

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:58:07am

re: #25 The Pie Overlord!

I picked way more tomatoes than it’s possible for 2 people to eat so I took some over to the next door & across the street neighbors.

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If you’re thinking about dropping off some zucchini squash, it had better be peeled and grated so I can turn it into bread.. :-)

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Belafon  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:58:10am

re: #28 Danack

I really hope they don’t plan.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:58:28am
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Teddy's Person  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:58:42am

re: #25 The Pie Overlord!

I picked way more tomatoes than it’s possible for 2 people to eat so I took some over to the next door & across the street neighbors.

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As a kid, our neighbor across the street grew tomotoes. No one in the household ate fresh tomatoes, he grew them to make sauce. Every August, we got bunches of George’s tomatoes every day. Bread from Ruth and Harry’s (a local bakery), a little mayo, and tomatoe sandwiches all month long.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 11:59:28am

re: #15 William Lewis

Ya know, right now even the utter disaster of a military coup almost sounds better than that POS being in the white house a day longer…

I’m getting very scared that might be in the cards.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:00:30pm

re: #24 makeitstop

I’m thinking he got into that ‘stimulant’ that he’s trying to foist off onto vets.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:00:41pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:01:26pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

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Pelosi must call the House back into session and vote out articles of impeachment. He has gone totally bonkers threatening Europe!

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makeitstop  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:02:42pm

re: #26 Backwoods_Sleuth

Can you believe I’ve almost been president for three years?

Inadvertently accurate statement.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:03:02pm

moron

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Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:04:38pm

re: #15 William Lewis

Ya know, right now even the utter disaster of a military coup almost sounds better than that POS being in the white house a day longer…

I’m getting very scared that might be in the cards.

Rather not take on the 82ABN with a 12 gauge and a couple handguns.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:04:54pm
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:05:02pm

re: #38 makeitstop

Inadvertently accurate statement.

He’s losing it big time. I’m actually wondering if he’s really gonna be able to make it to Election Day next year.

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Teddy's Person  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:05:16pm

Trump (later today): The fire marshall has announced that I’ve broken Elton John’s record at the AMVETS. Millions of beautiful vets waited outside in the snow and scorching temperatures to see the Chosen One, live and in person.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:05:29pm

X takes on the latest from Mark Taylor—NSFW

Mark Taylor Thinks Trump’s Divisiveness is Ordained by God

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:05:31pm
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KGxvi  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:06:22pm

re: #37 Joe Bacon 🌹

Pelosi must call the House back into session and vote out articles of impeachment. He has gone totally bonkers threatening Europe!

In a rational world, Trump wouldn’t have won a single delegate in 2016. In a semi-rational world the GOP would have turned on him a year ago and we’d discussing whether Ted Cruz wants to pull a Reagan and run against President Pence in the primary. But shit be fucked up and bullshit in this reality, so we get this shitshow.

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Citizen K  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:06:32pm

re: #45 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I….what even.

Just….what is wrong with this man.

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makeitstop  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:07:23pm

re: #42 Dr Lizardo

He’s losing it big time. I’m actually wondering if he’s really gonna be able to make it to Election Day next year.

Hell, I’m wondering if he isn’t going to completely disintegrate mentally by the weekend.

Shit’s getting bad, and worse almost by the minute. You might see his keepers go with the Rose Garden strategy after today.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:07:49pm

re: #45 Backwoods_Sleuth

What? Bolivian Marching Powder? An Adderall inhaler?

On a serious note, I haven’t heard anything about that - I would imagine that J&J would announce something like that, but then again, I’m here in Europe.

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plansbandc  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:08:16pm

CL’ed

We reached crazyville awhile ago. Now we’re doing Adderall fueled circles around it.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:08:20pm

re: #48 makeitstop

Hell, I’m wondering if he isn’t going to completely disintegrate mentally by the weekend.

Shit’s getting bad, and worse almost by the minute. You might see his keepers go with the Rose Garden strategy after today.

What’s that?

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KGxvi  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:08:28pm

re: #47 Citizen K

I….what even.

Just….what is wrong with this man.

Shorter list to go with what’s right with him.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:08:54pm

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Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:09:30pm
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makeitstop  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:10:06pm

re: #51 Dr Lizardo

What’s that?

A la Nixon, once Watergate started closing in - holing up in the White House and manufacturing press ops that precluded having to answer any questions.

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KGxvi  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:10:33pm

re: #51 Dr Lizardo

What’s that?

Basically the president runs for re-election by being president. Rose Garden events that aren’t officially campaign events but reminds voters that he is the president and doing the work.

Traditionally it works well if you have a competent president because the president gets in the news for being the president rather than running for president. But in this case, it won’t be any better because he’s a fucking trainwreck in any scenario.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:11:36pm
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:11:54pm

re: #55 makeitstop

A la Nixon, once Watergate started closing in - holing up in the White House and manufacturing press ops that precluded having to answer any questions.

Ah, OK. I was pretty young when Watergate went down.

Yeah, I could see Trump’s handlers trying to do something like that but the only problem with that is Trump himself. He can’t stick to the script and he’ll inevitably go off on some batshit insane tangent.

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jaunte  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:12:29pm

@MalcolmNance
Trump just threatened to send Kurd captured ISIS terrorists back into Europe. So he is taking responsibility for them and will fly them over on US transports? He will @literally export terrorism? The stupid hurts so bad

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:14:56pm

re: #59 jaunte

@MalcolmNance
Trump just threatened to send Kurd captured ISIS terrorists back into Europe. So he is taking responsibility for them and will fly them over on US transports? He will @literally export terrorism? The stupid hurts so bad

I don’t know who the next POTUS is gonna be - but I do know they’re going to spend most of their first term (at bare minimum) repairing the damage Trump has caused with our allies around the world.

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KGxvi  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:15:16pm

For what it’s worth, the Rose Garden campaign tactic is something that is in every presidential incumbent’s arsenal. It’s one of the reasons that it’s so hard to beat an incumbent - they don’t have to prove they’re presidential, because they are doing presidential things.

Similarly, in congressional and legislative elections, incumbents do something similar by running strong constituency services.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:17:18pm
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retired cynic  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:19:19pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

Sounds like some drug wore off…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:19:40pm
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:20:46pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

re: #63 retired cynic

Yeah, he’s crashing.

How long does Adderall last? If Trump did a rail of Addy this morning, would it be wearing off by now?

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Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:21:03pm

Missed the news that President Obama is doing a September visit to…Denmark.
cphpost.dk

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makeitstop  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:21:08pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

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I want to see video of that.

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KGxvi  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:21:45pm

re: #62 Charles Johnson

Hypothetical question that’s probably not all that hypothetical…

What are the odds of a Wilson scenario playing out with Trump? You got to think that Ivanka, Jared, and the Walrustache know they’re out the door the moment Pence becomes even Acting-President.

In the modern world is a Wilson scenario even possible?

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Teddy's Person  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:22:52pm

re: #64 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Well, Trumps ‘s life-long go to move is taking credit for other people’s work and stiff them for any owed compensation.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:23:36pm

re: #63 retired cynic

Sounds like some drug wore off…

Or kicked in

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Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:26:28pm

Do people actually snort Adderall or is that an urban legend? Is that a real thing?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:26:31pm

re: #65 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, he’s crashing.

How long does Adderall last? If Trump did a rail of Addy this morning, would it be wearing off by now?

I used to take it for my ADD.

Effects usually start to wear off after six hours or so.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:26:41pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:26:49pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

Do people actually snort Adderall or is that an urban legend? Is that a real thing?

I believe it is a real thing.

A stupid but real thing.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:28:28pm
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Patricia Kayden  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:31:50pm

re: #3 Joe Bacon 🌹

The responses are pretty good though. They’re being dragged.

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Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:32:36pm

re: #48 makeitstop

Hell, I’m wondering if he isn’t going to completely disintegrate mentally by the weekend.

Shit’s getting bad, and worse almost by the minute. You might see his keepers go with the Rose Garden strategy after today.

Even if he does who’s going to do anything about it?

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Jay C  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:32:48pm

re: #68 KGxvi

Hypothetical question that’s probably not all that hypothetical…

What are the odds of a Wilson scenario playing out with Trump? You got to think that Ivanka, Jared, and the Walrustache know they’re out the door the moment Pence becomes even Acting-President.

In the modern world is a Wilson scenario even possible?

I’m guessing not. A hundred years ago, the Presidency wasn’t the 24/7/365 fishbowl it is today: media coverage was much more limited (and then only the dead-tree “press”): not to mention generally more deferential to Presidential privacy. It’s very hard to imagine Donald Trump (for whom incessant media attention is like a particularly severe addiction) being able to retire to the “Rose Garden” and not have anyone notice.

A more likely scenario - should King Orangeanus stroke out or whatever - is a VERY quick Cabinet meeting, and The Donald getting a timely ride on the 25A bus back to Mar-a-Lago or wherever…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:34:14pm

This guy is the worst.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:34:51pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

Do people actually snort Adderall or is that an urban legend? Is that a real thing?

I simply googled “snorting adderall” and there’s a lot of pages describing the dangers of Adderall inhalation, albeit they’re all from rehab centers.

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lawhawk  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:35:27pm

re: #53 The Pie Overlord!

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Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:36:09pm
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Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:36:32pm

re: #78 Jay C

Not without Putin’s ok.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:37:31pm

re: #68 KGxvi

Hypothetical question that’s probably not all that hypothetical…

What are the odds of a Wilson scenario playing out with Trump? You got to think that Ivanka, Jared, and the Walrustache know they’re out the door the moment Pence becomes even Acting-President.

In the modern world is a Wilson scenario even possible?

I would think that’s pretty much impossible nowadays. There’s way too much media coverage - quite unlike the early 20th century, at least as far as White House press coverage.

And with this administration? Keeping that shit under wraps? Good fucking luck, LOL.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:38:29pm

coward

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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:39:37pm

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

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coward

He’s not feeling safe in Kentucky, good.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:39:42pm
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Stanley Sea  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:40:06pm

re: #49 Dr Lizardo

Most likely this

forbes.com

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:42:55pm

re: #88 Stanley Sea

Most likely this

forbes.com

Well, today I learned something new.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:43:00pm

re: #87 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Because it was an absurd idea, you overly sensitive chode face.

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wrenchwench  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:43:15pm

As of yesterday, the part in Trump’s fluff has been allowed to drift upwards, exposing more of his fully-receded hair line. I thought maybe the plan was to introduce him slowly to reality, starting with the most personal and undeniable. If that was the plan, having him totally flip out may not have been the desired outcome. Or it may have been.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:43:30pm
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Skip Intro  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:44:26pm

I did not know this, but having zero diplomatic experince is the perfect reason for Trump to appoint her.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:46:02pm

re: #88 Stanley Sea

Most likely this

forbes.com

ketamine…really?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:46:48pm

re: #88 Stanley Sea

Most likely this

forbes.com

JFC
$30,000-to-$40,000 a year for treatment

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:47:28pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:48:19pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:48:34pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:49:40pm
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jaunte  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:49:58pm

Greed continues to fuck the world up.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:50:21pm

re: #100 jaunte

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Greed continues to fuck the world up.

Greed and hate sigh.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:51:38pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:52:54pm

re: #102 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Our king is probably going to golfing instead or talk shit on Twitter.

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BlueSpotinAL  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:56:05pm

re: #440 Dr Lizardo

To this day, I still lust for one of these - a Maserati Quattroporte:

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I could afford to buy one. I can’t afford to own one.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 21, 2019 • 12:57:02pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:01:28pm
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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:01:44pm

re: #105 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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Acting just like good Xtians!

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:04:44pm

re: #105 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

JFC.

Scaramucci said something the other day, something to the effect that once Trump’s gone, we’re going to have to figure out a way to do something akin to a cult de-programming on about half the country.

And you know what? He’s right. We’re gonna have to find some way to de-program at least 40% of the population and that’s no easy task, because they’ve been fed a steady diet of vitriol, hatred, jingoism and xenophobia (topped with apocalyptic nightmare fuel) for the better part of a quarter century (longer if we go back to the John Birch Society and its activities dating back to the 1950s).

We’ve got one hell of a mess on our hands.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:06:07pm
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Mike Lamb  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:08:14pm

re: #102 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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It’s embarrassing/scandalous that the President of the US won’t be there. At the same time, it’s probably good. Some actual work might get done, as opposed to Trump showing up late for meetings; not having a fucking clue about anything; and generally distracting from meaningful discussions.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:11:27pm

re: #108 Dr Lizardo

JFC.

Scaramucci said something the other day, something to the effect that once Trump’s gone, we’re going to have to figure out a way to do something akin to a cult de-programming on about half the country.

And you know what? He’s right. We’re gonna have to find some way to de-program at least 40% of the population and that’s no easy task, because they’ve been fed a steady diet of vitriol, hatred, jingoism and xenophobia (topped with apocalyptic nightmare fuel) for the better part of a quarter century (longer if we go back to the John Birch Society and its activities dating back to the 1950s).

We’ve got one hell of a mess on our hands.

He’s going to do all he can to act like a defeat was due to fraud. He’s going to do all he can to make life miserable for his successor.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:11:37pm

I’m 50 years old - but someday, when I’m well past retirement age, I look forward to telling the young whippersnappers about that day the President of the United States of America said he was the King of the Jews and then continued that he was the second coming of Jesus Christ on Earth. And if that wasn’t enough lunacy for one day, he went on to proclaim to a bunch of reporters that he was “The Chosen One” while doing jazz hands at the sky.

What a time to be alive.

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Mescalero09  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:13:43pm

So out here in Burn Barrel Pennsyltucky we had a special election last night.
Tea Bag Tom Marino left and wonderboy Tea Bag rubber stamp shit for fucking brains Fred Keller was elected to take his seat. Freddie boy defeated Dr. Jenn Rager-Kay who I am a patient of that lost to Keller by a large margin but not as much as was expected. She’s a class act. Good person. But she needs to learn when to kick.
I sat and talked with her at the local Dem meetings a few times. She was in Philly for the DNC and supported Hillary, and like a few of my other Democrat friends she was spit on by Bernie supporters. There was a few that came to the meetings. Couldn’t talk to their stupid asses either. Trump/Bernie. Same coin.
I stopped going because I’m already in the deep end and treading water.
Don’t need me asking pointed questions. Might upset people.
So last night she ran against This Turd and lost. That was the seat Keller had. Imagine that.
I could scream.
Fuck these people.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:16:34pm
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William Lewis  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:20:05pm

re: #111 HappyWarrior

He’s going to do all he can to act like a defeat was due to fraud. He’s going to do all he can to make life miserable for his successor.

Perhaps our best hope is if he strokes out in while at one of his rallies so that there’s no one but “HIS” people around him. Then they can wait for his triumphant return until hell freezes over (Arthur’ll be back first…)

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BeachDem  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:20:29pm

When John Lewis asks, how can you say no? (I couldn’t, so I said yes)

John Lewis | United States Congressman
xxxx,

Jaime Harrison is running for U.S. Senate in South Carolina against Lindsey Graham.

So I’ll put this as simply as I can: Jaime is exactly the kind of Democrat I want serving alongside me in Congress during these troubled times.

But the GOP is going to pour millions in dirty SuperPAC money into his race.

So I’ve committed to raising $1O,OOO for Jaime this week, but my team tells me we’re still $5,000 short, and our deadline is tomorrow. Will you chip in $50 right now…

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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:21:03pm

re: #115 William Lewis

Perhaps our best hope is if he strokes out in while at one of his rallies so that there’s no one but “HIS” people around him. Then they can wait for his triumphant return until hell freezes over (Arthur’ll be back first…)

An inglorious death. Though I want him in prison too.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:22:08pm

re: #116 BeachDem

When John Lewis asks, how can you say no? (I couldn’t, so I said yes)

John Lewis | United States Congressman
xxxx,

Jaime Harrison is running for U.S. Senate in South Carolina against Lindsey Graham.

So I’ll put this as simply as I can: Jaime is exactly the kind of Democrat I want serving alongside me in Congress during these troubled times.

But the GOP is going to pour millions in dirty SuperPAC money into his race.

So I’ve committed to raising $1O,OOO for Jaime this week, but my team tells me we’re still $5,000 short, and our deadline is tomorrow. Will you chip in $50 right now…

It’s such a tragedy that John Lewis was never viable as Presidential material but the orange garbage was.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:22:43pm

re: #105 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

God, I hate what Trump has done to this country.

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gocart mozart  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:22:58pm
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Mike Lamb  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:24:12pm

I had a random/scary/dystopian thought: if Russia really wanted to screw with the country, they’d put their thumb on the scale next election in favor of Democrats, particularly in reasonably close Senate races, such that Dems took complete control of the federal gov’t. And by thumb on the scale, I mean changing vote totals (which I am fully confident that they did in 2016—I don’t buy that they would get as deep as they did in state voting systems just to see if they could).

Then, some time just prior to the new Congress being sworn in, they’d leak/release evidence showing their work.

I am pretty confident that it would trigger a civil war.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:24:25pm

re: #120 gocart mozart

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Oh shut up Grossi. You support the guy who takes Putin’s side time and again,

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:24:37pm

re: #114 Charles Johnson

“Think about how strange it will be to have a president who doesn’t tweet, doesn’t spread hatred and make up childish names for his enemies, does real press conferences, and actually cares about national security.

It’s gonna feel weird after this shit show.”

NYT Opinion: Harris Administration is too “Boring”, lacks “Energy”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:25:11pm

re: #121 Mike Lamb

I had a random/scary/dystopian thought: if Russia really wanted to screw with the country, they’d put their thumb on the scale next election in favor of Democrats, particularly in reasonably close Senate races, such that Dems took complete control of the federal gov’t. And by thumb on the scale, I mean changing vote totals (which I am fully confident that they did in 2016—I don’t buy that they would get as deep as they did in state voting systems just to see if they could).

Then, some time just prior to the new Congress being sworn in, they’d leak/release evidence showing their work.

I am pretty confident that it would trigger a civil war.

That’s terrifying and yes I think it would too.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:25:14pm

re: #68 KGxvi

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:26:01pm

Y’all know if Trump loses next year we are going to have one crazy ass lame duck session, right?

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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:26:05pm

re: #123 Eclectic Cyborg

“Think about how strange it will be to have a president who doesn’t tweet, doesn’t spread hatred and make up childish names for his enemies, does real press conferences, and actually cares about national security.

It’s gonna feel weird after this shit show.”

NYT Opinion: Harris Administration is too “Boring”, lacks “Energy”

Chris Cilliza: Harris isn’t entertaining enough. Middle America misses Trump’s tweets.//

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Belafon  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:26:26pm

re: #121 Mike Lamb

And Democrats could instigate investigations into how the vote totals were changed, provide support to prevent them, and remind people that McConnell could have prevented this.

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(((Viking Sea Mexican)))  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:27:20pm

re: #13 Dr Lizardo

Wanna see Trumpites really fly into a rage? Play this on endless loop on FNC:

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Video

LOL

It can’t remember which soap opera used this as their theme song, but that’s where I first heard it.

Reina de Corazones.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:27:37pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:28:33pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

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If anyone would purge his VP, it would be Trump.

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austin_blue  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:29:35pm

re: #131 HappyWarrior

If anyone would purge his VP, it would be Trump.

Chris Christie is available.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:29:51pm
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DangerMan  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:30:21pm

remember this?

1991: A book by John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump’s criticism of a black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” Trump at first denied the remarks, but later said in a 1997 Playboy interview that “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”

Oh, and congress has 42 Jewish members. Only two are Republicans. We ain’t all stupid.

finally, Michelle Goldberg at the NYT: “trump uses Jews as human shields.”

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Belafon  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:32:13pm

re: #133 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Actually, we would generally ignore that person unless they care cutting themselves or attempting to hurt others.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:34:21pm

re: #126 Eclectic Cyborg

Y’all know if Trump loses next year we are going to have one crazy ass lame duck session, right?

I think that’s when Trump’s likely to be at his most dangerous. He knows full well that there’s a good chance that he - and possibly his kids as well - could be looking at some serious criminal charges and the only thing protecting him is the fact that he’s President.

The protection he enjoys goes away on January 20th, 2021 if he loses next November. And that’s got to have him scared shitless.

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DangerMan  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:34:39pm

re: #16 Teddy’s Person

sorry no

laughing while saying it doesnt make it ‘a joke’

what exactly makes this funny?
where’s the setup? the punchline?

this is not ‘humorous’ laughter, it’s oh shit we almost had to write about this

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Belafon  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:34:43pm

Charles, thanks for addeding the ?hide information to the help.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:35:30pm

re: #129 Sea Mexican

Reina de Corazones.

Yep, that’s the one!

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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:37:45pm

re: #137 DangerMan

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sorry no

laughing while saying it doesnt make it ‘a joke’

what exactly makes this funny?
where’s the setup? the punchline?

this is not ‘humorous’ laughter, it’s oh shit we almost had to write about this

And you can’t tell me it would go over okay if Obama or HRC had “joked” about this. He has no understanding or respect for the sacrifices military members make and it shows all the time and the vets and service members who do support him are too blinded by their own mutual hate.

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DangerMan  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:38:16pm

re: #38 makeitstop

Inadvertently accurate statement.

yes, and im glad it was just almost

what i cant imagine is if you’d actually been president for three years

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:40:48pm

re: #135 Belafon

Actually, we would generally ignore that person unless they care cutting themselves or attempting to hurt others.

and we’d let them buy guns…

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wrenchwench  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:41:12pm
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DangerMan  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:42:23pm

re: #61 KGxvi

For what it’s worth, the Rose Garden campaign tactic is something that is in every presidential incumbent’s arsenal. It’s one of the reasons that it’s so hard to beat an incumbent - they don’t have to prove they’re presidential, because they are doing presidential things.

Similarly, in congressional and legislative elections, incumbents do something similar by running strong constituency services.

he will, and constantly does have to ‘prove he’s presidential’

and he’d (theoretically) be limited at official and rose garden type events with what he can say

plus there’d be no audience of significance, no red hats, t-shirts, etc

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:44:42pm

re: #135 Belafon

Actually, we would generally ignore that person unless they care cutting themselves or attempting to hurt others.

By reaching for the nuke button perhaps?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:44:48pm

re: #94 Backwoods_Sleuth

ketamine…really?

esketamine is the (S-) enantiomer of ketaime - its (R-) form doesn’t seem to work as well.

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Sufficient unto the day...  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:44:53pm

I was just in a Twitter fight with someone re: BEENNNGGGGHHHHHAAAAAAZZZZZZZIIIIIIII

I love that he’s against armchair quarterbacking…while he’s armchair quarterbacking.

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Mike Lamb  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:45:10pm

re: #128 Belafon

And Democrats could instigate investigations into how the vote totals were changed, provide support to prevent them, and remind people that McConnell could have prevented this.

I just have doubts that Republicans (rank and file that is) would even allow the new Congress to be seated. I know Trump would never leave.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:46:38pm

re: #137 DangerMan

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sorry no

laughing while saying it doesnt make it ‘a joke’

what exactly makes this funny?
where’s the setup? the punchline?

this is not ‘humorous’ laughter, it’s oh shit we almost had to write about this

“I could exercise power and do a thing that would upset you.”
“I’m laughing because I could actually do it. I don’t think you could stop me.”
“Just by saying it aloud, and breaking social norms, I’m showing I have power. That’s why it’s funny.”

It’s like when right wingers tell “jokes” that are just the stereotypes they really believe: the “humor” is that they feel powerful and their target deserves harm.

It’s why gun culture participants play with phrasings of “I could kill you, be nice.” as humor.

The Access Hollywood tape wasn’t just a confession, it was a worldview: I can do this; they’ll let you do it; that’s delightful.

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Teddy's Person  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:47:44pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

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I heard a rumor that Mike and Nikki were in a room alone together, without MOTHER.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:48:41pm

re: #137 DangerMan

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sorry no

laughing while saying it doesnt make it ‘a joke’

what exactly makes this funny?
where’s the setup? the punchline?

this is not ‘humorous’ laughter, it’s oh shit we almost had to write about this

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KGxvi  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:48:55pm

re: #144 DangerMan

he will, and constantly does have to ‘prove he’s presidential’

and he’d (theoretically) be limited at official and rose garden type events with what he can say

plus there’d be no audience of significance, no red hats, t-shirts, etc

Yeah, like I said in the earlier comment, he’s uniquely fucked up as presidents go. And he’s obviously been the least presidential president in American history. Previous incumbents have been able to walk the tightrope of official/campaign stuff in the past, but again, they’ve been generally competent. Trump is not, so it most likely won’t work for him.

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Mescalero09  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:52:06pm

And other things to consider…

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Rocky-in-Connecticut  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:54:44pm

re: #137 DangerMan

Trump’s MO as a Con Man is to at first “joke” about something not considered normal in order to test the waters and more specifically his mark’s reaction to it.

If he senses an opening he will further “look into” his suggestion and offer up “many people” who are in support of his insanity.

Trump will be awarding himself and his family members medals. You can be assured of that.

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KGxvi  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:55:16pm

re: #153 Mescalero09

I was watching a PBS documentary on Netflix last night about the Titanosaurs fossils they found in Patagonia. It’s rather amazing the information we can now gleam from fossils regarding Earth’s prior owners.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:56:08pm
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:57:09pm

re: #153 Mescalero09

And other things to consider…

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Giant murder chicken.

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gocart mozart  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:57:12pm
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VegasGolfer  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:58:06pm

re: #134 DangerMan

I was posting this crap way before the 2016 election

I was calling trump drumpf and getting chastised about it.

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wrenchwench  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:58:18pm

re: #157 Dr Lizardo

Giant murder chicken.

Biggest drumsticks ever.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:59:20pm
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Mescalero09  Aug 21, 2019 • 1:59:59pm

But the wings are not the best….

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gocart mozart  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:01:29pm

More crazy people

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:03:26pm

re: #161 Dr Lizardo

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IT’S SO FLUFFY!!!

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:07:02pm

re: #165 Backwoods_Sleuth

IT’S SO FLUFFY!!!

It’d be great if someone could go back and replace all the dinosaur sounds in the original Jurassic Park with poultry noises.

Heh.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:07:18pm

A thought that disturbs me is that I suspect his poverty of language is not just ignorance, but a kind of magical thinking about labels.

Invoking nasty invalidates a woman and doesn’t even follow one dictionary definition of the word; it’s a cloud of negatives that are feminine, and once nastiness is invoked, you’re fair game. You haven’t been deferential. So you smell bad, and are on your period, and are bleeding out the face, are unattractive and fat and probably have Bad Sex of some variety.

This disturbs me because I think it is part of his appeal to his base—they deeply enjoy these Magic Words and the implication that the world’s full of targets who deserve cruelty, and implicitly that enjoying cruelty and sadism towards acceptable targets is noble—because Trump’s use of labels is only slightly more crude than other reactionary media figures.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:10:03pm

re: #167 The Ghost of a Flea

President Trump says the Denmark Prime Minister’s statement on his proposal to buy Greenland was “nasty” and says all she had to do was tell him no. Says he cancelled his visit because “you don’t talk to the United States that way.”

He is not the United States, he is the President and his proposal was ludicrous. Had it been directed through proper international diplomatic channels, it might have at least been worthy of a measured response, but as it most likely came out of a tweet or an offhand remark, it deserved the swatting down that it received.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:10:06pm

re: #147 Sufficient unto the day…

I was just in a Twitter fight with someone re: BEENNNGGGGHHHHHAAAAAAZZZZZZZIIIIIIII

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I love that he’s against armchair quarterbacking…while he’s armchair quarterbacking.

And when I engaged that ass in regards to the four servicemen in Niger who were ambushed he predictably…

BLAMED IT ON OBAMA…for cutting the defense budget…and then he blocked me…

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Ming5000  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:10:44pm

re: #153 Mescalero09

And other things to consider…

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Terrifying, and FABULOUS!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:12:00pm

This came up on FB, had to share here:

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William Lewis  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:12:20pm

re: #163 gocart mozart

More crazy people

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Sounds more like someone spinning shit to fuck with Trumpers.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:14:37pm

Time to call it a day. Have fun, Lizards.

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KGxvi  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:17:01pm

re: #162 Mescalero09

But the wings are not the best….

My god… could you imagine if a T-rex could fly?

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gocart mozart  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:17:17pm
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TedStriker  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:17:30pm

re: #133 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Normally, a person declaring themselves the “King of Israel,” “the chosen one,” and the “King of the Jews” while trying to buy Greenland would result in a trip to a psychiatric hospital or an examination for a stroke.

But it’s Donald Trump, so we just shake our heads.

— Mike Rothschild (@rothschildmd) August 21, 2019

Trump’s at or almost at the stage where he’ll be wearing Kleenex boxes for shoes.

Unlike Howard Hughes, though, Trump has the power to annihilate a huge chunk of the living things on this planet.

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DangerMan  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:18:20pm

re: #163 gocart mozart

More crazy people

For a smart guy, you missed the boat on this one.
Greenland is home to a secret CIA base which has been used in the past two+ years to subvert the US and its intelligence. Trump is shutting it down. When you follow the MSM and forget to follow the actual Intel you look foolish!

this implies thinking, planning, strategy and a purpose

trump doesnt do those

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plansbandc  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:18:45pm

re: #166 Dr Lizardo

Psychotic and unhinged poultry noises. Someone needs to do this.

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Mike Lamb  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:19:18pm

re: #167 The Ghost of a Flea

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A thought that disturbs me is that I suspect his poverty of language is not just ignorance, but a kind of magical thinking about labels.

Invoking nasty invalidates a woman and doesn’t even follow one dictionary definition of the word; it’s a cloud of negatives that are feminine, and once nastiness is invoked, you’re fair game. You haven’t been deferential. So you smell bad, and are on your period, and are bleeding out the face, are unattractive and fat and probably have Bad Sex of some variety.

This disturbs me because I think it is part of his appeal to his base—they deeply enjoy these Magic Words and the implication that the world’s full of targets who deserve cruelty, and implicitly that enjoying cruelty and sadism towards acceptable targets is noble—because Trump’s use of labels is only slightly more crude than other reactionary media figures.

His response isn’t patronizing/condescending at all…

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TedStriker  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:19:37pm

re: #171 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This came up on FB, had to share here:

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Oldie but goodie:

Q: What do you call a bass player in a three-piece suit?
A: “Defendant”.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:20:17pm
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Barefoot Grin  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:21:27pm

I know this is kind of tacky, but every time I read “King of the Jews” I think not of the Jesus Christ Superstar song, but rather hear in my head Roger Miller singing.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:22:12pm

re: #181 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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I really wish vets would stop enabling his bs but as I said, some of them share his bigotry so it’s acceptable to them.

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TedStriker  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:23:00pm

re: #182 Barefoot Grin

I know this is kind of tacky, but every time I read “King of the Jews” I think not of the Jesus Christ Superstar song, but rather hear in my head Roger Miller singing.

To the tune of “King of the Road”? That’d be different…

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jaunte  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:23:10pm

re: #182 Barefoot Grin

Savior for sale or rent,
Sins forgiven fifty cents…

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:23:20pm

re: #176 TedStriker

Trump’s at or almost at the stage where he’ll be wearing Kleenex boxes for shoes.

If the White House starts ordering bottled milk we’re in deeper trouble!

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:23:43pm

re: #184 TedStriker

To the tune of “King of the Road”? That’d be different…

Yep, it doesn’t really work, but I can’t help it.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:24:01pm

re: #185 jaunte

Savior for sale or rent,
Sins forgiven fifty cents…

Ok, that works! :)

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TedStriker  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:24:04pm

re: #185 jaunte

Savior for sale or rent,
Sins forgiven fifty cents…

Yesssssss!!!

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jaunte  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:24:47pm

Have to work 30 Mike Pence in there somewhere.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:24:55pm
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TedStriker  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:25:59pm

re: #187 Barefoot Grin

Yep, it doesn’t really work, but I can’t help it.

re: #188 Barefoot Grin

Ok, that works! :)

Thing is, I could totally see Miller writing that alternate version.

The man wrote “You Can’t Roller Skate in a Buffalo Herd”, ya know.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:26:31pm

re: #153 Mescalero09

I’m now eyeing my African gray parrot suspiciously.

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jaunte  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:27:28pm
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Mescalero09  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:28:22pm

“MOM I CAN’T FIND TIMMY AND I HEAR NOISES MOM MOM AHHGGGGGGGGG”

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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:29:28pm

re: #194 jaunte

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TBH Evangelicals would stick with him if he wore a swastika. All they care about is getting their ass kissed, right wing judges, & lip service on Israel.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:31:15pm

re: #194 jaunte

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:31:20pm

Blessed are the young:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:31:41pm

re: #196 HappyWarrior

TBH Evangelicals would stick with him if he wore a swastika. All they care about is getting their ass kissed, right wing judges, & lip service on Israel.

They want to help kick-start Armageddon and precipitate their apocalyptic End Times prophecies, and nobody fits the bill better than Donaldus Rex

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gocart mozart  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:32:45pm

heh

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:33:05pm

re: #196 HappyWarrior

TBH Evangelicals would stick with him if he wore a swastika. All they care about is getting their ass kissed, right wing judges, & lip service on Israel.

Oh and don’t forget banning abortion and anything that prevents pregnancy….and Ken Cuccinelli will send the Sex Police to remove all then nasty toys and dirty videos from every house in America!

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Mescalero09  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:33:29pm

re: #193 Patricia Kayden

I suspected all my plastic dinosaur friends were not monochromatic grey.
Or smooth.
Or.
Or.
I looked at all the lizards and thought, “huh?”
But what did I know?
Next up, Pterodactyls have feathers and not WINGS LIKE A FUCKING BAT.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:33:41pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:34:36pm

re: #179 Mike Lamb

His response isn’t patronizing/condescending at all…

The president, his enablers, and his followers pretty much subsist on turning every interaction into a power dynamic. Even when there’s supposed to be a specific end, pursuit of feeling powerful and deferred to (and not feeling ashamed or down-power) eats the discourse.

This whole Greenland thing is an especially stupid representation of how this plays out.

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mmmirele  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:38:31pm

The short-fingered vulgarian re: #94 Backwoods_Sleuth

ketamine…really?

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I heard about ketamine infusions. If I had treatment resistant depression, yeah, I’d look into it. Some people have reported good results. But I’m doing rather well on my drug cocktail, so it’s not necessary.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:39:29pm

Seeing the posts on Facebook and MAGATS are having an orgasm over Trump standing up to the “Commie” Danish PM…

Nothing is able to turn those MAGATS away from whom their Pulpit Pimps have decreed is God’s Anointed King…

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:40:49pm

re: #114 Charles Johnson

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Not really. I still remember the Obama years where we had a well spoken, classy, empathetic President and a wonderful First Family. A Democratic President will just get us back to the norm.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:43:23pm

re: #206 Joe Bacon 🌹

Seeing the posts on Facebook and MAGATS are having an orgasm over Trump standing up to the “Commie” Danish PM…

Nothing is able to turn those MAGATS away from whom their Pulpit Pimps have decreed is God’s Anointed King…

God they’re hopeless. She’s a commie? Because she won’t sell her people out to Truno? Trump cultists are going to be ruining our country for years to come.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:43:47pm
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Barefoot Grin  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:45:09pm

Holy shit. Tornado warning predicted for 5:45; just now, 5:44 heavy rain started falling. We have no basement. Hoping for the best.

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mmmirele  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:50:23pm

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gocart mozart  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:52:36pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:53:33pm
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DangerMan  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:58:51pm

re: #208 HappyWarrior

God they’re hopeless. She’s a commie? Because she won’t sell her people out to Truno? Trump cultists are going to be ruining our country for years to come.

‘commie’ is just a catchall placeholder that means ‘other’
like socialist, leftist, etc
they’ve all lost any specific, let alone accurate meaning

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:58:55pm

re: #206 Joe Bacon 🌹

Seeing the posts on Facebook and MAGATS are having an orgasm over Trump standing up to the “Commie” Danish PM…

Nothing is able to turn those MAGATS away from whom their Pulpit Pimps have decreed is God’s Anointed King…

I’m pretty sure that MAGATs are sending the Danish PM death threats by now since their President has given them the green light to attack her because she’s not selling Greenland. **eye rolls**

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 21, 2019 • 2:59:01pm
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Patricia Kayden  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:01:10pm

re: #214 DangerMan

Yep. Dr. King was a commie for demanding equal treatment for African Americans. Of course, now Republicans claim him as one of their own.

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DangerMan  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:01:26pm

re: #211 mmmirele

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:01:36pm

re: #212 gocart mozart

Actually AOC, eliminating the Electoral College would silence our voices here in Iowa and in many other states across the country.

This is just more evidence of how out of touch the Democrats have become

Do keep in mind that the EC gave us Abraham Lincoln…without a majority.

I would be for keeping the EC but

a) reapportioned so that it represents states based on population, not on the size of their congressional delegation

and

b) so that it only kicks in if no single candidate receives a clear majority

or banning that, a runoff election system.

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DangerMan  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:03:13pm

re: #212 gocart mozart

Taking away special privilege and being treated the same as every other American citizen is NOT OPPRESSION

losing my institutional unfair advantage sure feels like oppression

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:04:00pm

re: #212 gocart mozart

Joni Ernst

@joniernst
* 6h
Actually @AOC, eliminating the Electoral College would silence our voices here in Iowa and in many other states across the country.

This is just more evidence of how out of touch the Democrats have become. fxn.ws

Hate this so much. Tara Ross of Prager “University” has been spreading this nonsense across the nation and has persuaded too many of the merits of her argument. It’s not just traditional rw zealots who buy into this argument; many well-meaning voters have been taken in. I have refused to read her magnum opus on this topic because I don’t want to waste my time being forced to digest her sophistry.

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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:05:19pm

Lre: #212 gocart mozart

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One person, one vote. Simple as that but I don’t expect a Republican to get that since Republicans don’t believe in democratic government.

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gocart mozart  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:06:19pm
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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:07:04pm

re: #221 Hecuba’s daughter

Hate this so much. Tara Ross of Prager “University” has been spreading this nonsense across the nation and has persuaded too many of the merits of her argument. It’s not just traditional rw zealots who buy into this argument; many well-meaning voters have been taken in. I have refused to read her magnum opus on this topic because I don’t want to waste my time being forced to digest her sophistry.

It’s the usual Republican crap about how California and New York don’t matter because they’re strongly Democratic. It’s an absurd argument.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:07:25pm

re: #211 mmmirele

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A Cranky One  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:07:28pm

re: #193 Patricia Kayden

I’m now eyeing my African gray parrot suspiciously.

African grays are incredible mimics. Had one that could do squeaky doors, could bark like each of our 5 dogs, etc. More than once I was sure the spouse was home, heard her doing things in the kitchen, talking to the dogs and them responding, only to discover it was all the parrot.

So now I’m imagining a T- rex mimicking mating calls of other dinosaurs and then sitting back and waiting for dinner to show up. Yikes.

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Ming5000  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:08:19pm

re: #211 mmmirele

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DangerMan  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:08:38pm

re: #212 gocart mozart

Actually @AOC, eliminating the Electoral College would silence our voices here in Iowa and in many other states across the country.

This is just more evidence of how out of touch the Democrats have become

and ps

first primary and all, your voice in iowa is actually way outsized

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mmmirele  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:09:28pm

re: #225 Eric The Fruit Bat

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HappyWarrior  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:09:33pm

re: #228 DangerMan

and ps

first primary and all, your voice in iowa is actually way outsized

Yep

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:10:56pm

re: #219 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Do keep in mind that the EC gave us Abraham Lincoln…without a majority.

I would be for keeping the EC but

a) reapportioned so that it represents states based on population, not on the size of their congressional delegation

and

b) so that it only kicks in if no single candidate receives a clear majority

or banning that, a runoff election system.

It doesn’t work; a + b can still get you a Trump over a Hillary when it’s a winner takes all contest by state. There is no way to repair the EC, except by eliminating it, such as the proposed compact of allotting votes by the national winner.

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DangerMan  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:10:57pm

re: #227 Ming5000

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GlutenFreeJesus  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:11:10pm

Sigh. Stupid Twitter and no edit button.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:11:39pm
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mmmirele  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:12:19pm

Long thread, well worth reading, from Dr. Sarah Taber, a crop scientist. She starts with how the South shot itself in the foot by starting the Civil War, goes on to explain how the same thing is happening with soybeans, and concludes with a plea to farmers to jump off the Trump train.

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DangerMan  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:12:28pm

re: #224 HappyWarrior

It’s the usual Republican crap about how California and New York don’t matter because they’re strongly Democratic they cant win in a fair system. It’s an absurd argument.

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Belafon  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:15:52pm

re: #234 The Pie Overlord!

They should start with the national anthem, and America the Beautiful.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:17:54pm

re: #229 mmmirele

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:22:08pm

so full of shit, all of them

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:28:29pm
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KGxvi  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:31:18pm

re: #221 Hecuba’s daughter

Hate this so much. Tara Ross of Prager “University” has been spreading this nonsense across the nation and has persuaded too many of the merits of her argument. It’s not just traditional rw zealots who buy into this argument; many well-meaning voters have been taken in. I have refused to read her magnum opus on this topic because I don’t want to waste my time being forced to digest her sophistry.

I’ve shifted over the years on the Electoral College from mostly agnostic to believing we should probably abolish it. The way it has evolved, it has rendered many voter’s ballots irrelevant. If you’re a Republican in California or a Democrat in Wyoming, your vote doesn’t really matter, because the margins in those states are so wide.

But if we go to a national popular vote, a Republican no longer has to win California for those votes to matter, they just have to close the margin in the state. Same for the Democrats in Wyoming. It actually puts more votes in play, rather than less. It would also likely make presidential campaigns a lot more expensive because a smart nominee/campaign is going to look to invest resources where they hadn’t previously invested. But you take the good with the bad.

The EC would probably be better if we didn’t have an artificial cap of 435 members of the House. But even then, you’d have to either award electors proportionally or via district to be best representative.

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KGxvi  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:32:49pm

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

Can someone call every member of Congress and ask if they consider that an impeachable offense?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:32:52pm
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Mike Lamb  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:33:33pm

re: #221 Hecuba’s daughter

Hate this so much. Tara Ross of Prager “University” has been spreading this nonsense across the nation and has persuaded too many of the merits of her argument. It’s not just traditional rw zealots who buy into this argument; many well-meaning voters have been taken in. I have refused to read her magnum opus on this topic because I don’t want to waste my time being forced to digest her sophistry.

Seriously, why should a smaller population have such a disproportionate impact, particularly when the Senate already provides an out-sized “voice” for states with small populations?

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:34:04pm

re: #185 jaunte

Savior for sale or rent,
Sins forgiven fifty cents…

Isn’t that what caused the Protestant Church to split?

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KGxvi  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:40:12pm

re: #244 Mike Lamb

Seriously, why should a smaller population have such a disproportionate impact, particularly when the Senate already provides an out-sized “voice” for states with small populations?

I think one of the times we were discussing reapportionment around here, someone suggested the idea that House seats be determined by the size of the smallest state. Basically smallest population gets 1 seat and then every other state gets a seat for that many people.

That set up within the electoral college would get us closer to the right sized voices.

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teleskiguy  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:43:08pm

Great. Orangey McFuckface is going to dump Pence and make Ivanka his VP. That’s where we’re going, right?

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Ming5000  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:44:15pm

re: #247 teleskiguy

Great. Orangey McFuckface is going to dump Pence and make Ivanka his VP. That’s where we’re going, right?

Yup.

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KGxvi  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:44:19pm

re: #247 teleskiguy

Great. Orangey McFuckface is going to dump Pence and make Ivanka his VP. That’s where we’re going, right?

Either Donald or Ivanka would have to change their residency. Electors can’t vote for a president and vice-president from the same state.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:44:20pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:45:39pm

re: #247 teleskiguy

Great. Orangey McFuckface is going to dump Pence and make Ivanka his VP. That’s where we’re going, right?

That would be hilarious!

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:45:48pm

re: #226 A Cranky One

There’s a species of firefly that does that. Imitates the signals of males of other firefly species and eats them when they come to get laid.

There’s your useless factoid of the day.

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teleskiguy  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:46:15pm

I think we should strike Article I Section 3 from the Constitution altogether, as well as getting rid of the Electoral College. I’m a radical like that.

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KGxvi  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:46:23pm

re: #249 KGxvi

Either Donald or Ivanka would have to change their residency. Electors can’t vote for a president and vice-president from the same state.

Actually, wait, that’s not quite accurate (and a common misconception so pervasive that I’ve missed it despite having a very high level of knowledge regarding constitutional law). Only the New York electors wouldn’t be able to vote for both of them. Which, to be fair, isn’t really a concern.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:46:42pm

Could this really be Kevin Williamson’s ex-wife?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:49:24pm

re: #241 KGxvi

I’ve shifted over the years on the Electoral College from mostly agnostic to believing we should probably abolish it. The way it has evolved, it has rendered many voter’s ballots irrelevant. If you’re a Republican in California or a Democrat in Wyoming, your vote doesn’t really matter, because the margins in those states are so wide.

But if we go to a national popular vote, a Republican no longer has to win California for those votes to matter, they just have to close the margin in the state. Same for the Democrats in Wyoming. It actually puts more votes in play, rather than less. It would also likely make presidential campaigns a lot more expensive because a smart nominee/campaign is going to look to invest resources where they hadn’t previously invested. But you take the good with the bad.

The EC would probably be better if we didn’t have an artificial cap of 435 members of the House. But even then, you’d have to either award electors proportionally or via district to be best representative.

With SCOTUS having given the green light to extreme gerrymandering, awarding electors by district could make the EC even worse. However, a big increase in the size of the House and proportional award of electors rather than winner-take-all, neither of which require a constitutional amendment, could make it better. But its up to the states to decide how they award their electors.

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KGxvi  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:49:55pm

re: #253 teleskiguy

I think we should strike Article I Section 3 from the Constitution altogether, as well as getting rid of the Electoral College. I’m a radical like that.

Eliminating the senate would require quite a few other changes to the constitution. We would have to ensure that the House could ratify treaties and approve cabinet/judicial appointments. There’d also be a question about how we do impeachments (and if they would become easier to do, what would the ramifications of that be).

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EPR-radar  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:50:38pm

re: #223 gocart mozart

My favorite response to “What would Jesus do?” is to point out that flogging the moneychangers out of the Temple is an option.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:50:52pm

re: #253 teleskiguy

I think we should strike Article I Section 3 from the Constitution altogether, as well as getting rid of the Electoral College. I’m a radical like that.

Never get enough states to agree to amend the Constitution like that, however.

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KGxvi  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:52:25pm

re: #256 NO SMOCKING GUN!

With SCOTUS having given the green light to extreme gerrymandering, awarding electors by district could make the EC even worse. However, a big increase in the size of the House and proportional award of electors rather than winner-take-all, neither of which require a constitutional amendment, could make it better. But its up to the states to decide how they award their electors.

I think Madison and Hamilton expected electors to be chosen by district and to have the freedom to cast their votes as they saw fit… think of a legislative body with one vote to cast. And while that was the case early on (and is how Jefferson (a Democrat-Republican) ended up VP to Adams (a Federalist)), the state parties quickly changed that.

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teleskiguy  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:53:46pm

re: #255 Charles Johnson

That is some lurid shit.

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retired cynic  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:53:48pm

re: #249 KGxvi

Either Donald or Ivanka would have to change their residency. Electors can’t vote for a president and vice-president from the same state.

Nothing else stops him; why should that?

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KGxvi  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:54:06pm

re: #259 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Never get enough states to agree to amend the Constitution like that, however.

One of the reasons I always laugh at the “we need a constitutional convention” arguments that usually come from the right is that the last time we had one to “make minor changes” we got an entirely new constitution. And that was after like 15 years. It’s been 200+ now, the idea that we wouldn’t end up with a very different system is sort of ridiculous.

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EPR-radar  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:56:53pm

re: #257 KGxvi

Eliminating the senate would require quite a few other changes to the constitution. We would have to ensure that the House could ratify treaties and approve cabinet/judicial appointments. There’d also be a question about how we do impeachments (and if they would become easier to do, what would the ramifications of that be).

Messing with the Senate is basically beyond the reach of constitutional amendments. I.e., no amendment can removes a state’s equal suffrage in the Senate without its consent.

So the only way to tackle the Senate is with a full-blown rewrite of the Constitution, which would be the pan-dimensional clusterfuck of all time.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:57:06pm

re: #241 KGxvi

I’ve shifted over the years on the Electoral College from mostly agnostic to believing we should probably abolish it. The way it has evolved, it has rendered many voter’s ballots irrelevant. If you’re a Republican in California or a Democrat in Wyoming, your vote doesn’t really matter, because the margins in those states are so wide.

But if we go to a national popular vote, a Republican no longer has to win California for those votes to matter, they just have to close the margin in the state. Same for the Democrats in Wyoming. It actually puts more votes in play, rather than less. It would also likely make presidential campaigns a lot more expensive because a smart nominee/campaign is going to look to invest resources where they hadn’t previously invested. But you take the good with the bad.

The EC would probably be better if we didn’t have an artificial cap of 435 members of the House. But even then, you’d have to either award electors proportionally or via district to be best representative.

I’ve used two arguments:
1. the one you just presented (which is that each vote counts equally — someone red in a blue state has the same effect as someone red in a red state). People currently can be discouraged from voting if they figure their vote doesn’t matter — which is true if your state isn’t a battleground state.

2. The current setup of winner-take- all — even if electors were truly proportional by state — can lead to a candidate winning 60+% of the popular vote and losing the electoral college.

But there is another overlooked factor: states that have large voter disenfranchisement (e.g. Florida) play too large a role; representatives are allocated by population size, not eligible voters. If your voting population is 10% less than it should be, then your state should have 10% less impact on the results. Indeed after the passage of the 15th amendment, African Americans were finally counted as a full person BUT in southern states they were barred from voting — so the South got even more electoral influence than they originally had under the 3/5 compromise. Southern states are still stopping people of color from voting but benefit from their presence in the number of electors they are assigned.

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Jay C  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:57:08pm

Heh.

I was just (like, 3 minutes ago) checking the Wiki for Danish PM Mette Frederiksen and noticed that some asshole had added the line “She hates Donald Trump and America” to the bio. I was pleased to see that by the time I hit “Edit” - somebody else had already changed the page.

Jeez, but Trumprrhoids are a lame lot….

ADD: especially after reading thru Frederiksen’s page: I know political orientations are interpreted differently in different countries, but she hardly seems like the “commie” the wingnuts have been slagging her as.

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EPR-radar  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:58:52pm

re: #266 Jay C

Heh.

I was just (like, 3 minutes ago) checking the Wiki for Danish PM Mette Frederiksen and noticed that some asshole had added the line “She hates Donald Trump and America” to the bio. I was pleased to see that by the time I hit “Edit” - somebody else had already changed the page.

Jeez, but Trumprrhoids are a lame lot….

Hating Trump is loving America. And Magats are what they are, truly despicable worshippers of a smegma elemental.

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KGxvi  Aug 21, 2019 • 3:58:57pm

re: #266 Jay C

Heh.

I was just (like, 3 minutes ago) checking the Wiki for Danish PM Mette Frederiksen and noticed that some asshole had added the line “She hates Donald Trump and America” to the bio. I was pleased to see that by the time I hit “Edit” - somebody else had already changed the page.

Jeez, but Trumprrhoids are a lame lot….

Was the edit to just delete “and America”?

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Jay C  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:00:46pm

re: #268 KGxvi

Was the edit to just delete “and America”?

Nope, the whole line vanished.

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gocart mozart  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:01:10pm
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KGxvi  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:03:22pm

re: #265 Hecuba’s daughter

I’ve used two arguments:
1. the one you just presented (which is that each vote counts equally — someone red in a blue state has the same effect as someone red in a red state). People currently can be discouraged from voting if they figure their vote doesn’t matter — which is true if your state isn’t a battleground state.

2. The current setup of winner-take- all — even if electors were truly proportional by state — can lead to a candidate winning 60+% of the popular vote and losing the electoral college.

But there is another overlooked factor: states that have large voter disenfranchisement (e.g. Florida) play too large a role; representatives are allocated by population size, not eligible voters. If your voting population is 10% less than it should be, then your state should have 10% less impact on the results. Indeed after the passage of the 15th amendment, African Americans were finally counted as a full person BUT in southern states they were barred from voting — so the South got even more electoral influence than they originally had under the 3/5 compromise. Southern states are still stopping people of color from voting but benefit from their presence in the number of electors they are assigned.

Interestingly enough, there is a provision in the 14th Amendment that covers this:

But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

The franchise amendments probably means it’s any voting eligible inhabitants over the age of 18. But I don’t believe this power has ever been exercised. And I suspect that to try and exercise it now would be a grand clusterfuck

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KGxvi  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:05:10pm

re: #270 gocart mozart

The investigation also revealed the official drank from a bottle of vodka in his office “after normal business hours.”

I’ve known (and been one) plenty of lawyers who kept a bottom drawer bottle, if not an entire dry bar in their office. So that just seems normal to me.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:06:52pm

re: #266 Jay C

Heh.

I was just (like, 3 minutes ago) checking the Wiki for Danish PM Mette Frederiksen and noticed that some asshole had added the line “She hates Donald Trump and America” to the bio. I was pleased to see that by the time I hit “Edit” - somebody else had already changed the page.

Jeez, but Trumprrhoids are a lame lot….

ADD: especially after reading thru Frederiksen’s page: I know political orientations are interpreted differently in different countries, but she hardly seems like the “commie” the wingnuts have been slagging her as.

“Commie” doesn’t mean anything specific.

Like “nasty” it’s more of a gesture than word, a vague indication of what frame the addressed should use: that this person is not-a-person, fundamentally the opposite of Us in an antagonistic and threatening way…

…and thus fair game.

It pretty much always comes down to marking people as fair game.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:07:59pm

re: #270 gocart mozart

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:08:49pm

re: #271 KGxvi

Interestingly enough, there is a provision in the 14th Amendment that covers this:

The franchise amendments probably means it’s any voting eligible inhabitants over the age of 18. But I don’t believe this power has ever been exercised. And I suspect that to try and exercise it now would be a grand clusterfuck

Of course, those who are disenfranchised now are excluded based on felony records, which is permitted under the amendment or because there are other restrictions (obstacles to getting valid voter id or limitations on early voting or insufficient booths to vote at a polling place).

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MsJ  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:09:20pm

re: #255 Charles Johnson

Could this really be Kevin Williamson’s ex-wife?

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That is one of the weirdest things I’ve read in a while.

Considering the current times, that says a lot.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:09:56pm

re: #263 KGxvi

One of the reasons I always laugh at the “we need a constitutional convention” arguments that usually come from the right is that the last time we had one to “make minor changes” we got an entirely new constitution. And that was after like 15 years. It’s been 200+ now, the idea that we wouldn’t end up with a very different system is sort of ridiculous.

While we’re doing all this constitutional conventioning, we might well ask why a country this size needs 51+ states to administer it, given 21st Cent technology an’ all. A dozen regions could better manage it.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:12:42pm

re: #240 Backwoods_Sleuth

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KGxvi  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:13:41pm

re: #277 Decatur Deb

While we’re doing all this constitutional conventioning, we might well ask why a country this size need 51+ states to administer it, given 21st Cent technology an’ all. A dozen regions could better manage it.

I wouldn’t doubt for a second that if there were a convention, that there would immediately be movements in at least California and Texas arguing for independence. Probably Hawaii and Alaska as well.

As far as combining states and/or redrawing lines, it’d be incredibly complicated, but possible.

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Jay C  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:14:27pm

re: #273 The Ghost of a Flea

“Commie” doesn’t mean anything specific.

Like “nasty” it’s more of a gesture than word, a vague indication of what frame the addressed should use: that this person is not-a-person, fundamentally the opposite of Us in an antagonistic and threatening way…

…and thus fair game.

It pretty much always comes down to marking people as fair game.

Which is weird - because reading Mette Frederiksen’s wiki, I would imagine she would be considered somewhat/moderately “right-leaning” by Danish standards* - especially on immigration issues. Although I wouldn’t expect Trump to know or care about such details : I’m sure his main piss-off is personal: that she (publicly) rebuffed an offer from His Orange High Holiness (stupidity of the offer notwithstanding) - an act of lese-majeste not to be tolerated…..

*DISCLAIMER: not particularly conversant with the details of Danish politics: any polite correction with be appeciated.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:14:45pm
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Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:15:52pm

re: #279 KGxvi

I wouldn’t doubt for a second that if there were a convention, that there would immediately be movements in at least California and Texas arguing for independence. Probably Hawaii and Alaska as well.

As far as combining states and/or redrawing lines, it’d be incredibly complicated, but possible.

The dozen or so federal regions already exist. We just have to turn a lot of statehouses into paintball ranges.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:18:19pm

This week has been so insane, I forgot to mention the Administration has also adopted plans so that they can jail children indefinitely.

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Decatur Deb  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:19:29pm

re: #283 NO SMOCKING GUN!

This week has been so insane, I forgot to mention the Administration has also adopted plans so that they can jail children indefinitely.

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Without flu vaccinations.

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retired cynic  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:19:49pm

re: #252 Romantic Heretic

There’s a species of firefly that does that. Imitates the signals of males of other firefly species and eats them when they come to get laid.

There’s your useless factoid of the day.

So I just went out to feed the horse (in the background) and saw this big lump on a fence rail. Have a pretty good idea what is going on, but no idea what kind of critter they are!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:20:44pm

Again, the Q cult and Pizzagate are ENTIRELY about projection.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:22:42pm
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KGxvi  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:23:16pm

Meanwhile, in mass shooter news:

A possible mass shooting was thwarted when Long Beach police arrested a disgruntled Marriot employee who had access to weapons and allegedly told a coworker he planned to shoot everyone he saw at his workplace, the city’s police chief said Wednesday.

Rodolfo Montoya, 37, was arrested without incident at his home in Huntington Beach on Tuesday, according to Long Beach Police Department Chief Robert Luna.

Investigators searched the home and seized multiple firearms, including an assault rifle, hundreds of rounds of ammunition and high-capacity magazines, Luna told reporters at a news conference where the arrest was announced.

No criminal record, so he was legally allowed to own those guns under California law.

Also, apparently there is/was a live shooter situation in Lancaster.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:28:15pm

re: #285 retired cynic

So I just went out to feed the horse (in the background) and saw this big lump on a fence rail. Have a pretty good idea what is going on, but no idea what kind of critter they are!

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some kind of mutant cricket thing going on there…

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:29:04pm
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Mescalero09  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:30:11pm

Damaged goods.
But boy oh boy, at the peak…

I had this in my CD player in my Bunkie Big Rig and blasted this motherfucker.
In another life.
Kept me warm.
Still kicks.
Oh, and fuck Lars. I once actually had an online piss fest with him. Amazing.

King Turd Donnie

Metallica - King Nothing - 7/24/1999 - Woodstock 99 East Stage (Official)

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:30:20pm

re: #276 MsJ

That is one of the weirdest things I’ve read in a while.

Considering the current times, that says a lot.

She mentioned the first time she got high, but I’m guessing there were more. For example, when she wrote this. But to be fair, I basically scroll-read after about the 10th paragraph.

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retired cynic  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:30:22pm

re: #289 Backwoods_Sleuth

some kind of mutant cricket thing going on there…

It’s well over an inch long. She is, that is.

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MsJ  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:36:09pm

re: #292 Barefoot Grin

She mentioned the first time she got high, but I’m guessing there were more. For example, when she wrote this. But to be fair, I basically scroll-read after about the 10th paragraph.

I didn’t make it to the end either, but I got further than you. Sadly.

It was a head shaker. He threatened her life before they divorced - because she wanted a divorce - but she dated him (only a couple of times) after they divorced. Huh?

I got lost after that as my brain kept screaming that I needed to stop killing it.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:43:55pm

re: #294 MsJ

I didn’t make it to the end either, but I got further than you. Sadly.

It was a head shaker. He threatened her life before they divorced - because she wanted a divorce - but she dated him (only a couple of times) after they divorced. Huh?

I got lost after that as my brain kept screaming that I needed to stop killing it.

Same. If this is authentic, then she has my sympathies. I don’t judge (too much). But I agree with the person who wrote: “an advertisement for editors.”

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Aug 21, 2019 • 4:52:54pm

re: #293 retired cynic

It’s well over an inch long. She is, that is.

Not an NRA member then.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 21, 2019 • 5:01:11pm

re: #296 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Not an NRA member then.

nor president, either

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jeffreyw  Aug 21, 2019 • 6:28:34pm

re: #285 retired cynic

So I just went out to feed the horse (in the background) and saw this big lump on a fence rail. Have a pretty good idea what is going on, but no idea what kind of critter they are!

[Embedded content]

It’s a wheel bug.

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 22, 2019 • 6:40:54am

re: #171 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

This came up on FB, had to share here:

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Life is tough, for a bass player it is almost impossible.


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