The Bob Cesca Podcast: It’s Time to Start Popping

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show, powered by Kopfler & Hermann, Attorneys at Law:

It’s Time To Start Popping — NSFW! Buzz Burbank from Buzz Burbank News and Comment is here; NSC official Lt. Col. Vindman confirmed to investigators the attempts at a quid pro quo; Fox News minion attack Vindman’s background; Trump goons vs the NSC; Rachel Maddow’s favorite news source; Barr and Trump launching criminal probe into Obama’s handling of the Russian attack; Trump booed and mocked at the World Series; Trump made up the details of the raid against al-Baghdadi; Obama’s announcement vs Trump’s announcement; With music by Lizanne Knott and Paul Melancon; and more!

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341 comments

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:06:44pm
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teleskiguy  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:07:04pm

NSFW: Language

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:07:22pm

It’s Friday already?

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:10:43pm

Lower than I thought it would be. Now.

We might wind up seeing a floor in the low 20s or even high teens.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:12:00pm

re: #4 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Lower than I thought it would be. Now.

We might wind up seeing a floor in the low 20s or even high teens.

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Good.

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William Lewis  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:14:04pm

re: #2 teleskiguy

Been a while since I seen you; hope the snow is treating you well.

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teleskiguy  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:18:19pm

re: #6 William Lewis

Been a while since I seen you; hope the snow is treating you well.

There’s almost a two foot settled base up in the mountains, a few inches down in the valley where I live. Big October storms are a double-edged sword.

Deep Persistent Slab | Colorado Avalanche Information Center

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Decatur Deb  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:20:05pm

re: #7 teleskiguy

There’s almost a two foot settled base up in the mountains, a few inches down in the valley where I live. Big October storms are a double-edged sword.

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Deep Persistent Slab | Colorado Avalanche Information Center

Denver grandkid starts his ski lessons next weekend. Mom bought a package that lets him trade his gear up as he grows.

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teleskiguy  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:21:28pm

re: #8 Decatur Deb

Denver grandkid starts his ski lessons next weekend. Mom bought a package that lets him trade his gear up as he grows.

Junior trade. I worked for two winters in a very large ski shop in the Denver area which I won’t name, and I’ll tell y’all, kids skis are a pain in the ass for a ski tech. That said, it was always nice to hand over the equipment to the kids and see how excited they get. 🙂

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Decatur Deb  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:22:40pm

re: #9 teleskiguy

Junior trade. I worked for two winters in a very large ski shop in the Denver area which I won’t name, and I’ll tell y’all, kids skis are a pain in the ass for a ski tech. That said, it was always nice to hand over the equipment to the kids and see how excited they get. 🙂

Kid and mom need the liberating experience of signing a liability waiver.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:26:26pm

The stupids… there is no bottom to the stupids.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:27:17pm
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garzooma  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:27:21pm

In other news, the House passed H.Res.296 acknowledging the Armenian Genocide by a vote of 405 to 11:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. House of Representatives voted overwhelmingly on Tuesday to recognize the mass killings of Armenians a century ago as a genocide, a symbolic but historic vote instantly denounced by Turkey.

The Democratic-controlled House voted 405-11 in favor of a resolution asserting that it is U.S. policy to commemorate as genocide the killing of 1.5 million Armenians by the Ottoman Empire from 1915 to 1923. The Ottoman Empire was centered in present-day Turkey.

This is certainly one of the fallouts from the 2018 election — Nancy Pelosi was always going to put this to a vote when conditions were favorable.

There’s a story from the NYT that had an interesting tidbit:

On Capitol Hill, the passage of the measure was a rare bipartisan moment on the House floor at a time when House Democrats’ impeachment inquiry has exacerbated a partisan rift.

Representative Michael McCaul of Texas, the top Republican on the Foreign Affairs Committee, who in recent weeks has bitterly dueled with Democrats over the investigation, crossed the floor to hug Ms. Pelosi and offer Mr. Schiff a handshake in celebration as spectators in the gallery stood to cheer the bill’s passage.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:30:30pm

re: #12 Ace-o-aces

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Muslim Democratic woman.

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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:31:36pm

MMA fans might like him more but they’re still a bunch of New Yorkers and will boo this bastard even harder, right?

Unbelievable.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:32:43pm

re: #15 b.d. (Where is Rudy?)

MMA fans might like him more but they’re still a bunch of New Yorkers and will boo this bastard even harder, right?

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Unbelievable.

Hope they do that Jumbotron thing again. Game 5 will sound like a church social.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:33:22pm

re: #15 b.d. (Where is Rudy?)

MMA fans might like him more but they’re still a bunch of New Yorkers and will boo this bastard even harder, right?

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Unbelievable.

Baseball fans aren’t known for being liberals and he still got booed in DC. I’m sure MSQ will give him a hometown loser’s welcome.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:33:56pm

He’s so desperate for adoration.

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garzooma  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:35:09pm

re: #12 Ace-o-aces

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Here are all the No votes, from an Armenian lobbying group:

11 NO votes on H.Res.296 Baird IN ; Brady TX ; Brooks IN ; Bucshon IN ; Cole OK ; Foxx NC ; Harris MD ; Meadows NC ; Pence IN ; Rogers AL ; Thornberry TX ;

I’m guessing they’re all Republicans.

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teleskiguy  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:35:52pm
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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:36:43pm

re: #17 HappyWarrior

Baseball fans aren’t known for being liberals and he still got booed in DC. I’m sure MSQ will give him a hometown loser’s welcome.

Not sure what he is thinking? That the MMA crowd is his base? That New Yorkers are his base? Him running home to his gilded condo is strange too, he hasn’t done that in a long time….

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:37:04pm

re: #19 garzooma

Here are all the No votes, from an Armenian lobbying group:

I’m guessing they’re all Republicans.

Yep.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:38:35pm

re: #21 b.d. (Where is Rudy?)

Not sure what he is thinking? That the MMA crowd is his base? That New Yorkers are his base? Him running home to his gilded condo is strange too, he hasn’t done that in a long time….

Maybe he thinks if he gets booed again, he’ll get the pity pot treatment and we’ll hear about the mean NYC elitists booing the modest man who got a million dollar loan from daddy in the 70’s.

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teleskiguy  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:39:38pm

I wish I could fail upward.

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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:40:14pm

re: #23 HappyWarrior

Maybe he thinks if he gets booed again, he’ll get the pity pot treatment and we’ll hear about the mean NYC elitists booing the modest man who got a million dollar loan from daddy in the 70’s.

Hahahaha, I hadn’t thought of the pundit class telling the MMA crowd that they better behave, that will go over well.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:41:57pm

re: #25 b.d. (Where is Rudy?)

Hahahaha, I hadn’t thought of the pundit class telling the MMA crowd that they better behave, that will go over well.

The pundit class are so out of touch.

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teleskiguy  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:41:59pm

Potentially could be the coldest temperature ever recorded in the month of October.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:43:03pm

I did love seeing everyone in that crowd reduced to an elitist. Trump was literally in a skybox when he got booed but really it’s the bleacher fan who is the elitist.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:43:19pm

re: #27 teleskiguy

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Potentially could be the coldest temperature ever recorded in the month of October.

This is the first full winter since the family moved from Birmingham.

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teleskiguy  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:46:55pm

re: #29 Decatur Deb

This is the first full winter since the family moved from Birmingham.

They’re getting an “adult dose” of winter weather this week. They shouldn’t get too freaked, winters are generally pretty mild along the Front Range, known for lots of sunny days and average temperatures in the 40s and 50s. Though sometimes freak upslope snowstorms move through, those are doozies, with snow measured in feet. Those suck, shuts the whole city down for days.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:47:24pm
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Decatur Deb  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:48:57pm

re: #30 teleskiguy

They’re getting an “adult dose” of winter weather this week. They shouldn’t get too freaked, winters are generally pretty mild along the Front Range, known for lots of sunny days and average temperatures in the 40s and 50s. Though sometimes freak upslope snowstorms move through, those are doozies, with snow measured in feet. Those suck, shuts the whole city down for days.

Honest to god, Alabama schools sometimes close on the rumor of snow. He got an early release today at several inches.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:49:00pm

re: #27 teleskiguy

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Potentially could be the coldest temperature ever recorded in the month of October.

3 is not so bad…oh wait no it’s not Celsius is it!!!!

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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:49:57pm

re: #27 teleskiguy

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Potentially could be the coldest temperature ever recorded in the month of October.

brrr

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:50:10pm

re: #19 garzooma

Here are all the No votes, from an Armenian lobbying group:

I’m guessing they’re all Republicans.

You are correct sir!

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:50:53pm

Just gotta get this off my chest.

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Belafon  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:51:40pm

re: #20 teleskiguy

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Wiener and Clinton would have to disagree with the part about dick pucks not making news, but the rest of it is spot on.

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teleskiguy  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:52:56pm

Supposed to be a few degrees below zero next few nights at my twenty, gonna get *real* cold tomorrow night with clear skies expected.

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teleskiguy  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:55:21pm

I never had a snow day in my primary school days. One time classes got canceled when I was in college because it was -25º F, that was the *high* temperature.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:55:40pm

re: #38 teleskiguy

Supposed to be a few degrees below zero next few nights at my twenty, gonna get *real* cold tomorrow night with clear skies expected.

National Weather Service has it figured out:

How to prepare now
Stay indoors during the storm. Prolonged exposure to cold can cause hypothermia.
1 hour ago * Sources: National Weather Service, ready.gov

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:57:23pm

re: #298 HappyWarrior

1-0 Nats.

re: #318 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

2-1 ‘Stros

3-2 Nats, Mid 5th

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:58:59pm

re: #41 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

3-2 Nats, Mid 5th

Yep. Looking to be a good game here. Game Six’s are often magical see 1975, 1993, & 2011.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:59:43pm

re: #344 b.d. (Where is Rudy?)

Is that the one that Dwayne Johnson is attending, to award the faux belt in one of the matches?

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fern01  Oct 29, 2019 • 6:59:57pm

re: #12 Ace-o-aces

That’s a rhetorical question - everyone knows the rules are different for republicans

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Dave In Austin  Oct 29, 2019 • 7:04:13pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 29, 2019 • 7:04:45pm

re: #17 HappyWarrior

Baseball fans aren’t known for being liberals and he still got booed in DC. I’m sure MSQ will give him a hometown loser’s welcome.

Big UFC shows draw rich people to buy the very expensive tickets.

Plus Dana White is a Trumper - remember he was at the convention.

Many UFC fighters come from cultures that adore strong men type of leaders.

So yes, UFC is more a Trump crowd than MLB.

Still, as I noted if Dwayne Johnson shows up (Unless I’ve mixed up UFC shows), he is definitely not one of those right-wing nuts. He’s Hollywoods current leading man and his price tag is high, so I doubt that UFC will want anything to mar his appearance.

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nicdanger  Oct 29, 2019 • 7:05:20pm
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Ace Rothstein  Oct 29, 2019 • 7:05:40pm

Was the call between Trump and Zelensky recorded?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2019 • 7:06:45pm

re: #45 Dave In Austin

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Dude literally pled guilty to making false statements to the FBI and was an adviser to a serial adulterer and he wants to shame Hill? Dude needs to have a nice cup of go fuck yourself with extra creamer.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2019 • 7:07:43pm

re: #46 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Big UFC shows draw rich people to buy the very expensive tickets.

Plus Dana White is a Trumper - remember he was at the convention.

Many UFC fighters come from cultures that adore strong men type of leaders.

So yes, UFC is more a Trump crowd than MLB.

Still, as I noted if Dwayne Johnson shows up (Unless I’ve mixed up UFC shows), he is definitely not one of those right-wing nuts. He’s Hollywoods current leading man and his price tag is high, so I doubt that UFC will want anything to mar his appearance.

True.

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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Oct 29, 2019 • 7:11:32pm

re: #45 Dave In Austin

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Hmmmmmm, which wingnut to donate to, Laura Loomer or Papadopulous?

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 29, 2019 • 7:13:05pm

re: #48 Ace Rothstein

Was the call between Trump and Zelensky recorded?

Probably somewhere.

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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Oct 29, 2019 • 7:14:47pm

re: #46 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

According to ESPN, movie star Dwayne Johnson a.k.a. “The Rock” confirmed via an Instagram Live chat streamed by UFC President Dana White that he’s following up on his promise to show up at Madison Square Garden in New York City, where he will put the “BMF” belt around the waist of the winner of the UFC 244 main event between Jorge Masvidal and Nate Diaz.

you’re right…

mmafighting.com

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gocart mozart  Oct 29, 2019 • 7:15:07pm
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Ace Rothstein  Oct 29, 2019 • 7:16:01pm

re: #54 gocart mozart

I watched that earlier. That dude was on fire.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 29, 2019 • 7:18:07pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2019 • 7:18:16pm

re: #54 gocart mozart

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It’s an attack on all foreign born people who have served honorably in our military. And FNC who went out of their way to accuse anthem kneelers as unpatriotic now attacks the patriotism of a career military man because he was disturbed by what Trump did.

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plansbandc  Oct 29, 2019 • 7:20:12pm

Well, this is really fucking bad.

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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Oct 29, 2019 • 7:30:56pm

re: #58 plansbandc

Well, this is really fucking bad.

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ooops, nice company they had there

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jaunte  Oct 29, 2019 • 7:33:14pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 29, 2019 • 7:34:28pm

As of now the only Democrat running for CA-25th seat : David Rudnick
My initial feeling is screw that. Worked for 2012 Ron Paul Presidential campaign

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EPR-radar  Oct 29, 2019 • 7:37:12pm

re: #58 plansbandc

That’s the kind of thing that leads to billion dollar punitive damage verdicts from juries, that are then cut down to pitiful fines due to ‘tort reform’ setting statutory caps on damage awards.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 29, 2019 • 7:38:13pm
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DodgerFan1988  Oct 29, 2019 • 7:44:38pm
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Ace-o-aces  Oct 29, 2019 • 7:47:33pm
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Ace Rothstein  Oct 29, 2019 • 7:51:07pm

re: #65 Ace-o-aces

I’d rather eat at Sizzler.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 29, 2019 • 7:52:36pm

re: #66 Ace Rothstein

I’d rather eat at Sizzler.

Agreed. The thought of giving trump money makes me want to vomit.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 29, 2019 • 7:52:54pm

re: #66 Ace Rothstein

I’d rather eat at Sizzler.

The meat is probably higher quality at Sizzler.

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retired cynic  Oct 29, 2019 • 7:53:12pm

On H.L. Mencken, Michael Gerson and Evangelicals in Public Life
by Martin Longman

I read the Gerson column, and found Longman’s discussion of it worthwhile, too.

The big difference, of course, is that unlike Donald Trump, William Jennings Bryan never won a presidential election. This is the primary reason that Trump is the bigger threat. Another reason is that Bryan pursued at least some policies that would genuinely help the little guy. Trump never does that.

On the whole, however, once you reject science and the reality-based world, you can be led down any path. One day Trump will be gone and evangelicals will be led in a new direction.

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Ace-o-aces  Oct 29, 2019 • 7:54:59pm

re: #68 Ace-o-aces

Jesus, I just read the menu again. $26 for fucking soup?

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 29, 2019 • 7:56:32pm

re: #65 Ace-o-aces

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Trump is making that same weird Satanic grin that he made when he had dinner with Mitt Romney

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 29, 2019 • 7:56:42pm
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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2019 • 7:57:25pm

re: #72 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Goddamn he’s such a fucking ass.

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calochortus  Oct 29, 2019 • 7:59:16pm

re: #65 Ace-o-aces

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That sounds not only pointlessly expensive, but sort of horrible. (And who eats a pound or more of steak at a sitting?)

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stpaulbear  Oct 29, 2019 • 7:59:32pm

re: #70 Ace-o-aces

Jesus, I just read the menu again. $26 for fucking soup?

$13 for a side of mashed potatoes.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:00:11pm

re: #74 calochortus

Dummies.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:00:18pm

re: #75 stpaulbear

$13 for a side of mashed potatoes.

Trump the everyman’s champion because you know steelworkers love paying 13 dollars for mashed potatoes.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:00:31pm

re: #75 stpaulbear

The spud cost them a nickel.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:01:30pm

re: #70 Ace-o-aces

Jesus, I just read the menu again. $26 for fucking soup?

The whole menu is a la carte? There is no dinner option that includes soup or salad, entree and 2 sides?

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calochortus  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:02:09pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

Trump the everyman’s champion because you know steelworkers love paying 13 dollars for mashed potatoes.

I might pay that for smashed purple potatoes with shallots and parsley, but since I make those rather well myself, I probably wouldn’t have occasion to.

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teleskiguy  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:03:18pm

13 bucks for french fries. What the fuck.

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:03:22pm

re: #77 HappyWarrior

Maybe Trump can treat all the Murray coal miners who are about to get fucked out of their pensions.

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gocart mozart  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:03:43pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:03:44pm

re: #80 calochortus

I might pay that for smashed purple potatoes with shallots and parsley, but since I make those rather well myself, I probably wouldn’t have occasion to.

I once made purple potatoes and nobody wanted to eat them because they look like turds.

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retired cynic  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:03:50pm

re: #80 calochortus

I might pay that for smashed purple potatoes with shallots and parsley, but since I make those rather well myself, I probably wouldn’t have occasion to.

Maybe for a family-sized serving bowl. Maybe.

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calochortus  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:05:56pm

re: #78 Ace Rothstein

The spud cost them a nickel.

There’s probably some labor involved too. Not a lot, but I’m always amused by helpful articles that tell you to order steak when you eat out because the mark up over the cost of the ingredients is less than, say, a salad. Which is silly. I eat out for one of 2 reasons. The first i s practical, I’m out somewhere and need to eat. The second is that I want something which is creative and/or labor intensive. I’m paying for someone else to actually do more than grilling a steak.

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Decatur Deb  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:06:14pm

re: #67 I Would Prefer Not To

re: #68 Ace-o-aces

The meat is probably higher quality at Sizzler.

You guys sent me looking for Intertube evidence of Tad’s Steakhouses. There were a bunch in the Grand Central—Times Square area when we were first married. For a rare treat, we could each get a steak (grilled in the window), baked potato, salad and garlic bread. That was $1.49, drink extra.

There is still a Tad’s in NYC!!! The menu now is $9.09. NYC Lizards better hurry up, it’s closing Jan 5th.

ephemeralnewyork.wordpress.com

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teleskiguy  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:08:29pm

Heh.

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calochortus  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:09:28pm

re: #84 The Pie Overlord!

I once made purple potatoes and nobody wanted to eat them because they look like turds.

Boil them. Smash them (mashed coarsely.) Drizzle lemon juice over them. The acid turns them pink where the lemon juice hits.

Also buy ones that are purple all the way through-and don’t boil them with regular potatoes because for whatever reason it fades the color drastically, even with just a small amount of white or yellow potatoes.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:10:59pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:11:49pm

re: #89 calochortus

Boil them. Smash them (mashed coarsely.) Drizzle lemon juice over them. The acid turns them pink where the lemon juice hits.

Also buy ones that are purple all the way through-and don’t boil them with regular potatoes because for whatever reason it fades the color drastically, even with just a small amount of white or yellow potatoes.

The bag came with assorted white, red & purple potatoes and I roasted them in a pan all together. Everyone ate the red and white ones but didn’t touch the purples. It did not help that one of my grandkids yelled “This looks like a poop!”

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Ace Rothstein  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:12:26pm

re: #90 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

“You see what Trump tweeted now?”

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gocart mozart  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:12:35pm
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calochortus  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:13:15pm

re: #91 The Pie Overlord!

The bag came with assorted white, red & purple potatoes and I roasted them in a pan all together. Everyone ate the red and white ones but didn’t touch the purples. It did not help that one of my grandkids yelled “This looks like a poop!”

I can see where that wouldn’t help.

Actually I’ve never roasted purple potatoes. I should try that.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:13:27pm

re: #90 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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jaunte  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:13:31pm

re: #90 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

“I said, dress for dinner, Watson.”

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mmmirele  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:14:10pm

re: #12 Ace-o-aces

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I’m stunned…my representative Andy Biggs (R-Up Donny’s Backside) voted Yea.

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TedStriker  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:14:43pm

re: #88 teleskiguy

Heh.

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Gene Kranz in Apollo 13: “Tell me this isn’t a government operation…”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:16:48pm

re: #97 mmmirele

I’m stunned…my representative Andy Biggs (R-Up Donny’s Backside) voted Yea.

Steve King even voted Yes.

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jaunte  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:20:06pm

Are those framed tweets on the back wall?

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Decatur Deb  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:20:11pm

re: #93 gocart mozart

…And that’s a “holy shit”.

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retired cynic  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:23:53pm

re: #101 Decatur Deb

…And that’s a “holy shit”.

That tone…. wow.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:28:51pm

re: #90 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Much more dramatic

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:32:55pm

There’s that word again: Damaging.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:38:06pm
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Belafon  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:45:11pm

re: #90 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:50:32pm

re: #100 jaunte

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Are those framed tweets on the back wall?

McCarthy makes Paul Ryan look effective.

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makeitstop  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:51:01pm

This sounds important.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:52:25pm

re: #108 makeitstop

This sounds important.

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She needs to sue these fucks.

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TedStriker  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:52:50pm

Alton Brown has a new candy recipe for Halloween…and he’s brought the Dungeonmaster (Lucky Yates, who, since a couple of years before the first run of Good Eats ended, has gotten a lot more attention playing the role of Dr. Krieger on Archer) with him (with a joke or two that’d never fly on Food Network or Cooking Channel):

Join Alton Brown and Ygor J Dungeonmaster as they prepare a sinisterly sour Halloween tweet!

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:53:13pm

re: #103 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 29, 2019 • 8:53:24pm
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Renaissance_Man  Oct 29, 2019 • 9:00:24pm

re: #36 Ace-o-aces

Just gotta get this off my chest.

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Probably a surgeon, because we’re all douchebags.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 29, 2019 • 9:04:38pm

My FB

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Dread Pirate  Oct 29, 2019 • 9:05:43pm

China is cuckolding Trump.

Squeal like a pig, Donnie.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 29, 2019 • 9:11:56pm

re: #114 Rightwingconspirator

My FB

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His story reminds me of my cousin. He too left his home country young and enlisted in the military. I am just so disgusted by the attacks on him due to the country of his birth who is an ally. Yoo, Dershowitz, & Ingraham could have been on Russian state tv with all their attacks on his character.

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DodgerFan1988  Oct 29, 2019 • 9:58:32pm

Oh my fucking lord.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 29, 2019 • 10:02:04pm

re: #117 DodgerFan1988

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Oh my fucking lord.

Nope, nothing racist about that. 14/88

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 29, 2019 • 10:14:00pm

re: #97 mmmirele

I’m stunned…my representative Andy Biggs (R-Up Donny’s Backside) voted Yea.

Armenians are European, Christian, and white — so maybe not so surprising?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Oct 29, 2019 • 10:24:24pm

re: #117 DodgerFan1988

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Oh my fucking lord.

That doesn’t even make sense.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 29, 2019 • 11:02:13pm

re: #4 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Actually, that’s about right. The “crazifiction factor” of any given electorate in a democratic society is ~25%.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 29, 2019 • 11:09:35pm

re: #109 HappyWarrior

She needs to sue these fucks.

They need to be prosecuted for trafficking revenge porn.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 29, 2019 • 11:29:42pm

The whores of Babylon.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 29, 2019 • 11:32:52pm

re: #119 Hecuba’s daughter

Armenians are European, Christian, and white — so maybe not so surprising?

Also, recognition of the Armenian Genocide cuts across ideological lines for the most part - it’s pretty well-documented (and was, even at the time of its occurrence) even though the Turks still passionately argue that it never happened, largely out of a sense of national pride.

There’s also a growing sense that Turkey is no longer the stalwart and reliable ally that it once was and Congressional recognition of the Armenian Genocide is intended to send a message to Erdoğan.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 29, 2019 • 11:34:58pm

re: #4 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Lower than I thought it would be. Now.

We might wind up seeing a floor in the low 20s or even high teens.

All that blasphemy is starting to eat into his support, no matter how bigoted he is.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 29, 2019 • 11:39:12pm

re: #125 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

All that blasphemy is starting to eat into his support, no matter how bigoted he is.

All that’s needed for that Evangelical support to decline even further is for one of the really prominent fundie preachers to publicly come out and straight-up say, “We have been deceived! President Trump is the Antichrist!” and that will engender a schism among Trump’s Evangelical supporters.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 29, 2019 • 11:41:14pm

re: #124 Dr Lizardo

Also, recognition of the Armenian Genocide cuts across ideological lines for the most part - it’s pretty well-documented (and was, even at the time of its occurrence) even though the Turks still passionately argue that it never happened, largely out of a sense of national pride.

There’s also a growing sense that Turkey is no longer the stalwart and reliable ally that it once was and Congressional recognition of the Armenian Genocide is intended to send a message to Erdoğan.

The Armenian Genocide was a terrible crime. If Trump had not betrayed the Kurds, would this bill have ever been brought to a vote? Congress would have been interested in pacifying the Turks and not passing legislation that could affect our relationship.

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uriel  Oct 29, 2019 • 11:43:27pm

re: #21 b.d. (Where is Rudy?)

Not sure what he is thinking? That the MMA crowd is his base? That New Yorkers are his base? Him running home to his gilded condo is strange too, he hasn’t done that in a long time….

Unfortunately, I really don’t see this as being an issue for him. Given the pretty hard right lean of the general MMA press I’ve encountered, added to the *very* hard rightward lean of notable MMA personalities, I really don’t see his base and the general MMA fans as being all that dissimilar.

I mean, when Joe Rogan is considered one of the more “thoughtful” commentators in the genre, and the wildly misogynistic and violent Jon Koppenhaver, (or War Machine, *eyroll*), who did time for 20+ felonies, including rape and kidnapping, is defended as a guy who “did nothing wrong,” I think we’re pretty solidly in pro trump, pro-fascist country.

Just a feeling I have.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 29, 2019 • 11:52:26pm
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Dr Lizardo  Oct 29, 2019 • 11:58:00pm

re: #127 Hecuba’s daughter

The Armenian Genocide was a terrible crime. If Trump had not betrayed the Kurds, would this bill have ever been brought to a vote? Congress would have been interested in pacifying the Turks and not passing legislation that could affect our relationship.

I understand that it’s all part of the international dance of diplomacy and whatnot, but the only real asset Turkey provides for the US is the İncirlik Air Base and control of the Bosporus. And frankly, the Bosporus thing may not be quite so critical as it once was, given the utterly decrepit state of the Russian Navy these days and the fact that Russia is a broke-ass country that would be hard put to modernize their Navy, no matter how much they may desperately want to.

Bringing the Russian Navy up to modern, 21st century blue-water standards is something they simply can’t afford to do.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 30, 2019 • 12:01:43am

The fucked up thing is that this will barely be a blip in tomorrow’s news.

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Dread Pirate  Oct 30, 2019 • 12:30:00am

The top American sport for 2020 - mass killings.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 30, 2019 • 12:41:17am

FFS.

U.S. President Donald Trump reportedly called South Korea a “major abuser” and claimed the U.S. ally should pay 60 billion dollars a year for the stationing of American troops in the country.

Guy Snodgrass, former chief speechwriter and communications director for former U.S. Defense Secretary James Mattis, made the claim in his memoir “Holding the Line: Inside Trump’s Pentagon with Secretary Mattis,” published on Tuesday.

Snodgrass recounts two meetings between Trump and his national security team at the Pentagon in July 2017 and January 2018 where the U.S. president repeatedly questioned the value of stationing U.S. troops overseas.

Snodgrass writes that Trump asked top officials, including then-Defense Secretary Mattis and then-Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, whether troops could be withdrawn from countries such as South Korea, Japan and Germany.

Trump reportedly said at the July 2017 meeting that South Korea has been a major abuser and that China and South Korea rip the U.S. off left and right.

Trump was also quoted as saying in January 2018 that if South Korea paid the U.S. 60 billion dollars a year to keep American troops on the Korean Peninsula, then it’s an “okay deal.”

South Korea is paying one-point-38 trillion won this year for the upkeep of U.S. troops on the Korean Peninsula, but the U.S. is reportedly seeking as much as five billion dollars next year.

world.kbs.co.kr

Christ, what an asshat.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 30, 2019 • 12:50:20am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 30, 2019 • 1:17:11am

Eek:

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 30, 2019 • 1:19:59am

More single digit RH, down to very very low levels

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 30, 2019 • 1:26:38am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2019 • 2:48:52am

re: #126 Dr Lizardo

All that’s needed for that Evangelical support to decline even further is for one of the really prominent fundie preachers to publicly come out and straight-up say, “We have been deceived! President Trump is the Antichrist!” and that will engender a schism among Trump’s Evangelical supporters.

Not enough to get them to vote Democratic but if it lowers their overall turnout, that will hurt the GOP as their strategy is centered around getting their base out in strong numbers while suppressing other voters.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2019 • 4:23:37am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2019 • 4:27:18am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Oct 30, 2019 • 4:28:58am

MYSTERIOUS US SPACE PLANE ARRIVES BACK AFTER LONG, UNEXPLAINED MISSION

The US’s mysterious space plane has come back to Earth - and still nobody will explain what it is for.

The craft, known as X-37B, has been in the sky since 2017.

When it dropped down at Nasa’s Kennedy Space Center over the weekend, it brought an end to the 780-day mission that is the longest ever carried out by the reusable vehicle.

[…]

Everyone knows what the X-37B is for…. more efficient dispersal of chem-trails across the globe. Duh.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Oct 30, 2019 • 4:49:33am

re: #21 b.d. (Where is Rudy?)

Not sure what he is thinking? That the MMA crowd is his base? That New Yorkers are his base? Him running home to his gilded condo is strange too, he hasn’t done that in a long time….

he likes to watch. sweaty men pretend grapple?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2019 • 4:58:42am

re: #142 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

he likes to watch. sweaty men pretend grapple?

MMMAGA!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 5:06:54am

re: #117 DodgerFan1988

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Oh my fucking lord.

Yeah that’s why. God Rubin is a moron.

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Citizen K  Oct 30, 2019 • 5:14:19am

re: #63 Ace-o-aces

That’s the thing that just outright enrages me and makes me wonder how any justice is done at all: the sheer and absolute ease they manage to get their vile shit to succeed no matter how open and heavy handed they are about it. The press and DC establishment are so fucking conditioned to fall for every GOP okey-doke and treat it like the most serious and credible issue ever. And we just apparently have to fucking take it and shut the fuck up about it because we’re in the wrong just by fucking existing opposite the single true anointed rulers of the country.

I will gladly fucking eat crow if Papadopoulos ends up with any actual consequences from this if it was a coordinated rat-fucking. The fact that he’s still out and about enough to even be allowed to declare for a race like this is just proof of how little consequence there is for GOP operatives.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 30, 2019 • 5:16:58am

Debt only matters when Democrats are in the White House.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Oct 30, 2019 • 5:17:28am

re: #57 HappyWarrior

It’s an attack on all foreign born people who have served honorably in our military. And FNC who went out of their way to accuse anthem kneelers as unpatriotic now attacks the patriotism of a career military man because he was disturbed by what Trump did.

its an attack on “the other” because it’s all they got

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Oct 30, 2019 • 5:19:37am

re: #62 EPR-radar

That’s the kind of thing that leads to billion dollar punitive damage verdicts from juries, that are then cut down to pitiful fines due to ‘tort reform’ setting statutory caps on damage awards.

the market will see that corps self regulate//

never mind how many have to be injured or die first

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Oct 30, 2019 • 5:22:07am

re: #70 Ace-o-aces

Jesus, I just read the menu again. $26 for fucking soup?

was it soup du jour?
I had it once and it was outstanding.
next time I tried it tasted different

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Oct 30, 2019 • 5:24:24am

re: #74 calochortus

That sounds not only pointlessly expensive, but sort of horrible. (And who eats a pound or more of steak at a sitting?)

some people think the “price” of something *is* a reflection of it’s worth or value

paying for it is a sign they “made it”, they rate, they belong

hint: they dont

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 5:25:41am

re: #147 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

its an attack on “the other” because it’s all they got

It honest to God has me livid. I have known so many people from so many different countries who weren’t born in the US who truly love this country.

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Belafon  Oct 30, 2019 • 5:27:41am

re: #132 Dread Pirate

The top American sport for 2020 - mass killings.

Maybe it’s time we declare a single day every year when this can occur without consequences. I’ll have to come up with a name though, since I’m the first person to think of it.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2019 • 5:30:00am

re: #150 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

some people think the “price” of something *is* a reflection of it’s worth or value

paying for it is a sign they “made it”, they rate, they belong

hint: they dont

The same people who measure prosperity in terms of how many resources we consume.

I recall the old Soviet production statistics published in Pravda, bragging about how they had increased electronics production by 26,000 tons.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2019 • 5:30:38am

re: #152 Belafon

Maybe it’s time we declare a single day every year when this can occur without consequences. I’ll have to come up with a name though, since I’m the first person to think of it.

And make a video streaming series about it…

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Oct 30, 2019 • 5:30:48am

re: #109 HappyWarrior

She needs to sue these fucks.

unless she’s got somerhi ng else hidden she doesn’t want to come out, she needs to unresign and face down these fucks

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2019 • 5:37:02am

re: #155 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

unless she’s got somerhi ng else hidden she doesn’t want to come out, she needs to unresign and face down these fucks

(Conservative) men can have affairs and it is just proof of how their passion of America spills over.

Liberals who have affairs are unworthy of office

women who have affairs are wanton sluts

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Oct 30, 2019 • 5:40:07am

re: #151 HappyWarrior

It honest to God has me livid. I have known so many people from so many different countries who weren’t born in the US who truly love this country.

it’s idiotic crackpot thinking
unfortunately it’s somewhat effective

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2019 • 5:55:45am

re: #60 jaunte

GOP fundraiser at… *checks notes* Trump’s DC hotel business. He profits from their very presence.

And what’s with the table with half the seats not taken. That’s just weird. Was Rudy, Parnas, and the gang unavailable?

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Citizen K  Oct 30, 2019 • 5:55:57am

Facebook being real vigorous about cracking down on right wing BS, ain’t they.

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Dave In Austin  Oct 30, 2019 • 5:57:15am

re: #133 Dr Lizardo

I saw Snodgrass interviewed yesterday.
Impressive no nonsense guy. He drew my immediate respect.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2019 • 5:57:37am

re: #158 lawhawk

GOP fundraiser at… *checks notes* Trump’s DC hotel business. He profits from their very presence.

And what’s with the table with half the seats not taken. That’s just weird. Was Rudy, Parnas, and the gang unavailable?

probably billed for those seats, too

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 5:58:14am

re: #157 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

it’s idiotic crackpot thinking
unfortunately it’s somewhat effective

Oh absolutely. Likewise though, I think it could easily backfire too.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:01:46am

re: #133 Dr Lizardo

Trump seems to have a special enmity for countries under direct threat from the worst dictators in the world.

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jeffreyw  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:02:12am

Good morning!

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:02:21am

His natural allies.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:02:41am

Dang, I’m out of eggs.

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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:06:53am

re: #158 lawhawk

And what’s with the table with half the seats not taken. That’s just weird. Was Rudy, Parnas, and the gang unavailable?

Asha’s take is pretty good…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:08:05am

re: #163 jaunte

Trump seems to have a special enmity for countries under direct threat from the worst dictators in the world.

He seems to like them all. The only one he doesn’t like is Maduro and I think that’s because Maduro wasn’t interested in kissing his ass.

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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:09:44am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:11:29am

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

I remember when the cat video (no ball) came out. That rework with the ball is great.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:11:42am

re: #133 Dr Lizardo

U.S. President Donald Trump reportedly called South Korea a “major abuser” and claimed the U.S. ally should pay 60 billion dollars a year for the stationing of American troops in the country.

Does Saudi Arabia pay for the troops we station there?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:11:48am

re: #169 makeitstop

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He also said not to congratulate Obama for the OBL raid. I respect Trump the same way he did Obama as President and I think that’s a sentiment that the pundit crowd is too chickenshit to analyze. Trump completely disrespected Obama as a man and president and American.

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lizardofid  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:14:54am

re: #171 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Does Saudi Arabia pay for the troops we station there?

Define “us”.

Oh, good morning!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:15:18am

re: #133 Dr Lizardo

FFS.

world.kbs.co.kr

Christ, what an asshat.

South Korea better watch their back. Trump is perfectly willing to screw long time allies if they don’t fit his way of doing things. The thing is. We do benefit from the South Korean relationship. We protect them. We sell their goods on our markets. Trump wants the country to be a protection racket rather than the US working with other democratic countries who are threatened by hostile neighbors.

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fern01  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:16:27am

re: #171 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Does Saudi Arabia pay for the troops we station there?

I’m sure they pay - who they pay should be a part of your question

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:16:36am

re: #171 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Does Saudi Arabia pay for the troops we station there?

Does an ugly Trump property in Riyadh count?

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:16:51am

re: #171 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They paid Kushner.

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John Hughes  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:17:03am

re: #90 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

One day this will all be yours…

Hah. 7 words, I fail.

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:18:47am

There’s always a fucking tweet.

Remember back when Obama was in office, and the economy grew 1.9%?

I do. There’s a tweet for that.

Guess what, despite Trump/GOP tax cuts and the promise that the economy would grow more than 3% (he was promising 4% growth, and you needed even higher than that to avoid massive debt year over year from the revenue lost offset by economic growth)… the quarter that just ended saw growth of a feeble… 1.9%. Trump’s too busy crowing about the strong/best/most amazing economy now, while it’s showing signs of falling towards a recession.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:18:49am

re: #178 John Hughes

One day this will all be yours…

Hah. 7 words, I fail.

this’ll

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unproven innocence  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:20:23am

re: #180 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

this’ll

One day, you get all this.

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Targetpractice  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:20:24am

So old, I remember when we were promised that the tax scam would net 4%+ (some predictions as high as 6%) growth because the rich having all that money was going to unleash explosive growth.

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:21:21am

re: #181 unproven innocence

One day, all this is yours

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:22:35am

re: #182 Targetpractice

So old, I remember when we were promised that the tax scam would net 4%+ (some predictions as high as 6%) growth because the rich having all that money was going to unleash explosive growth.

but only if the government removed all those pesky heath, safety, social and environmental regulations

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Citizen K  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:23:02am

re: #90 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

“It’s time you learned to shave.”

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Targetpractice  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:23:59am

re: #184 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

but only if the government removed all those pesky heath, safety, social and environmental regulations

Ayep, look forward to the excuse for the rest of the election for totally missing the mark being “It would have come true if the Dems hadn’t stood in the way!”

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:25:30am

re: #183 lawhawk

One day, all this is yours

My base belong to you, cowbell.

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Belafon  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:26:27am
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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:27:20am

re: #162 HappyWarrior

Oh absolutely. Likewise though, I think it could easily backfire too.

maybe cracks in the dam (on this anyway)
from today’s electoral-vote.com

For many Republicans—including some who oppose the impeachment inquiry—the smears of Vindman were a bridge too far. Sens. Mitt Romney (R-UT) and John Thune (R-SC), Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY), and other Republican members of Congress declared that it was unacceptable for the administration and its allies to treat someone of Vindman’s high reputation like that.

Of course, if he’s a credible fellow, then that means that his testimony is credible. And if his testimony is credible, and he says there was definitely a quid pro quo, then where does that leave us? It’s getting harder and harder to support the witnesses in the impeachment inquiry without supporting the inquiry itself. (Z)

and note the second paragraph
soon they’re gonna run out of pretzel logic

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Belafon  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:28:53am

Nancy Pelosi, cat herder:

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:29:03am

re: #166 jaunte

Dang, I’m out of eggs.

I ordered a chicken and an egg from Amazon
I’ll let you know

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:30:13am

re: #191 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

Hatch Act violation!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:30:52am

re: #190 Belafon

Nancy Pelosi, cat herder:

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BeachDem will love this.

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:32:25am

Everything turning sideways, and Trump’s last refuge has been a stable economy despite his idiotic trade war doing tremendous damage. If this trend continues, Trump will be toast and the economy is usually a good indicator of reelection success by an incumbent in normal times (and these are anything but normal times).

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Citizen K  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:33:39am

Amazing how two of the outlets that are continually treated as the front line for the ‘liberal media’ are conservative coddling believers of the ‘golden mean’.

And not one single move they’ve made has made conservatives treat them as more legitimate than when they first got attacked as ‘liberal media’.

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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:37:57am

re: #195 Citizen K

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Amazing how two of the outlets that are continually treated as the front line for the ‘liberal media’ are conservative coddling believers of the ‘golden mean’.

And not one single move they’ve made has made conservatives treat them as more legitimate than when they first got attacked as ‘liberal media’.

Who are CNN’s far left wing paid commenters? I guess I have missed those guys?

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John Hughes  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:39:45am

re: #180 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Don’t really like “this’ll”.

Someday this will all be yours.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:40:05am

re: #181 unproven innocence

One day, you get all this.

what, the curtains?

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:40:50am

re: #184 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

but only if the government removed all those pesky heath, safety, social and environmental regulations

See the juul post above

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Citizen K  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:42:37am

re: #196 b.d. (Where is Rudy?)

Who are CNN’s far left wing paid commenters? I guess I have missed those guys?

Van Jones. //////

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:42:58am

re: #192 jaunte

Hatch Act violation!

Maybe it is.. and maybe it isn’t…

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:43:29am

Fast-growing brush fire near the Reagan library. Crap

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sagehen  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:45:41am

re: #196 b.d. (Where is Rudy?)

Who are CNN’s far left wing paid commenters? I guess I have missed those guys?

Anderson Cooper and Don Lemon are both gay.

Gay people (except Andrew Sullivan and Milo) are inherently left wing.

Ergo, QED, ipso facto, res ipsa loquitur.

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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:47:24am

re: #200 Citizen K

re: #203 sagehen

Y’all are making my head hurt but it sure does sound like their logic.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:47:26am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:49:41am

re: #203 sagehen

Anderson Cooper and Don Lemon are both gay.

Gay people (except Andrew Sullivan and Milo) are inherently left wing.

Ergo, QED, ipso facto, res ipsa loquitur.

Nothing “inherently” left wing about being gay, but being gay is certainly hard to reconcile with GOP policy and views on the matter.

unless you are an argumentative, attention-seeking dickhead who doesn’t care who is using you.

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fern01  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:50:06am

re: #195 Citizen K

the network “is out there reporting from all over the country and from all points of view” and that “having people who support the president’s policies is part of that”

So CNN management accepts that attacking people who have served their country in the military - because they are not native born - is one of the president’s policies. I agree.

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:50:21am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:50:28am

re: #205 jaunte

God I fucking hate Breitbart.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:51:17am

re: #205 jaunte

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:51:56am

re: #207 fern01

So CNN management accepts that attacking people who have served their country in the military - because they are not native born - is one of the president’s policies. I agree.

That is true.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:52:16am

re: #209 HappyWarrior

God I fucking hate Breitbart.

They represent a very cynical and soul-less approach to the media: namely that if you float a story out there long enough for it to trend on Twitter and re-posted on FB, it will develop legs of its own and be picked up by the mainstream media and treated as if it had any actual merit…

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:52:20am

re: #191 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

I ordered a chicken and an egg from Amazon
I’ll let you know

Which one is Prime eligible and which one isn’t? That is what will determine which one comes first.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:52:49am

re: #210 Joe Bacon 🌹

Yeah but that was different because he was covering up to protect Reagan from having to leave the WH in a shame which is what should have happened to Reagan.

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Citizen K  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:53:12am

re: #212 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They represent a very cynical and soul-less approach to the media: namely that if you float a story out there long enough for it to trend on Twitter and re-posted on FB, it will develop legs of its own and be picked up by the mainstream media and treated as if it had any actual merit…

But only if you’re right-wing and get the plum exposure numbers that FB allows for right-wing sites and news.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:53:40am

re: #212 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

They represent a very cynical and soul-less approach to the media: namely that if you float a story out there long enough for it to trend on Twitter and re-posted on FB, it will develop legs of its own and be picked up by the mainstream media and treated as if it had any actual merit…

I know what they do. You don’t have to explain me their business model. I’m quite familiar with what that pock-marked pig fucker Bannon and his pals engage in.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:54:04am

re: #214 HappyWarrior

Yeah but that was different because he was covering up to protect Reagan from having to leave the WH in a shame which is what should have happened to Reagan.

The son of a CENSORED also let Contra cocaine flow into South Central Los Angeles.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:54:43am

re: #215 Citizen K

But only if you’re right-wing and get the plum exposure numbers that FB allows for right-wing sites and news.

Oh yes, a website like Jacobin would never get into the mainstream the way Breitbart has. Fuck those guys too but I don’t ever want to hear about how the media is biased against conservatives when Bannon and his friends got legitimized.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:56:23am

re: #217 Joe Bacon 🌹

The son of a CENSORED also let Contra cocaine flow into South Central Los Angeles.

Joe, you’ll be happy to know that my late grandfather when Ollie ran for Senate here 25 years ago told him the fuck off when he tried to shake his hand. Grandpa and he’s whom I am named after refused to shake his hand and told him that Chuck Robb had his number pretty much. Grandpa didn’t want to be patronized by a crook. He had served his country in Korea and spent years working as a brickmason and knew a shady asshole when he saw one.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:56:43am

re: #218 HappyWarrior

Oh yes, a website like Jacobin would never get into the mainstream the way Breitbart has. Fuck those guys too but I don’t ever want to hear about how the media is biased against conservatives when Bannon and his friends got legitimized.

Which is why I refer to these Press Whores as the Corporate Controlled Conservative Press!

Damn, I miss Media Whores Online…and I won’t forget how Salon did a hatchet job that put them out of business!

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:58:09am

goddfuckingdamnit! Not me yet but uncomfortably close.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2019 • 6:58:36am

Trumpworld staying right in line with that All The Best People branding:

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:00:06am

re: #222 jaunte

Trumpworld staying right in line with that All The Best People branding:

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The shit just keeps floating to the top of the swamp.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:00:48am

re: #220 Joe Bacon 🌹

Which is why I refer to these Press Whores as the Corporate Controlled Conservative Press!

Damn, I miss Media Whores Online…and I won’t forget how Salon did a hatchet job that put them out of business!

I remember that site. Didn’t know they went out of business. The insane thing to me is we get scrutinity of the media by people who are the media themselves. FNC and Breitbart want to portray a narrative of themselves as scrappy underdogs fighting against elites. Murdoch is certainly an elite and so are the Mercers and Bannon. Saw Ted Cruz try to say “Well the fans that booed Trump are just Washington elites.” Trump was literally in a skybox with the Republican leader of the House and other elected officials and he was booed from the bleachers. Elite is just another word that the right is eager to twist the meaning of sort of like “fake news.”

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:02:10am

re: #222 jaunte

Trumpworld staying right in line with that All The Best People branding:

Once again more evidence that Trump and Trumpism isn’t some outsider “cleaning up” but the worst elements of our previous days and some new characters like Javanka working together.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:02:38am

re: #221 goddamnedfrank

goddfuckingdamnit! No me yet but uncomfortably close.

Please stay safe Frank.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:05:35am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:08:00am

re: #227 jaunte

I was told the swamp was going to be drained. But instead the drain got swamped. One of my wingnut cousins was using the drain the swamp saying in response to Nancy’s House passing the naming of post offices but this crap doesn’t seem to phase her and the wingnut side of the family at all.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:12:27am

Now we know The Transcript is perfectly bogus.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:19:48am

re: #229 The Pie Overlord!

Now we know The Transcript is perfectly bogus.

i like how he characterizes a career military officer as a “Never Trumper.” The man is an officer in the United States military. We know nothing about his personal politics because it doesn’t matter. He took his concerns about what he heard and took them up the chain of command. He really thinks everyone in the WH owes him personal loyalty and I can’t express how much that should disturb everyone. It’s the total opposite of when Obama told his US Attorneys that they worked not for him but the American people.

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:22:15am
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b.d. (Where is Rudy?)  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:23:44am

re: #231 lawhawk

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Can’t they move it to Doral?

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:26:42am
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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:27:16am

re: #213 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Which one is Prime eligible and which one isn’t? That is what will determine which one comes first.

that’s not how i learned it in health class

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:27:55am

re: #205 jaunte

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i am still laughing at “managed by a pickled hunk of cheese in two shirts”

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Targetpractice  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:31:32am

re: #233 jaunte

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Unlike Nixon, the Dems have had “the goods” on Trump for weeks for one simple reason: The stupid fuck admitted his crimes out loud on live TV. Even at the very end of it all, Nixon never admitted his crimes and instead chose to resign before he could be impeached.

All that Dems have really been doing since Sept has been picking apart Donny’s entire defense strategy piece by piece, building a case so airtight that it could be used as a space capsule. That there are ready to move to the public phase of all that says only one thing: They have “the goods” and are ready to display them to the entire nation.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:32:20am

re: #235 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

i am still laughing at “managed by a pickled hunk of cheese in two shirts”

An angry whiskey bottle that read Lord Haw Haw’s broadcasts.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:33:26am

I’m just glad Trump’s large children have decided to stay completely out of politics and focus on running the family crime business.

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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:33:42am

re: #233 jaunte

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Just from looking at the screen cap, I can tell that Uday (or is it Qusay?) is doing his usual histrionic bullshit act.

How many times does he say ‘Hey…” before making a point? Every time he does that I feel the need to punch something.

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jaunte  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:34:32am

re: #239 makeitstop

Nobody tell him that “give me a break” is not an argument.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:35:39am

when an R president cant get a nomination past an R senate confirmation

from the WSJ

“Now, the White House is considering a plan allowing the administration to change the line of succession at the department to bypass the vacancies statute and appoint Mr. Cuccinelli or another pick. White House officials have asked the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel if such a plan is legal, one of the people familiar with the plan said.”

two items to note that burn me:

- just because the OLC says it’s ok doesnt make it legal. In this environment, with this AG, it’s almost, but not quite like asking your own lawyer for permission.

- even if/when a president breaks a mold and does something that’s not been done before, that doesnt make it some unassailable precedent for all future presidents. (leaving aside IOKIYAR). one reason is it could be a patent abuse of power the current DOJ refuses to rein in, but a future one wouldn’t. A second is that by that logic, whatever it is you are doing new is breaking with all the previous precedents, so it obviously works both ways.

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:36:10am

re: #70 Ace-o-aces

Jesus, I just read the menu again. $26 for fucking soup?

Sure, but it’s so much more fun than the celibacy soup.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:39:16am

In terms of “the goods,” I hope Congressional Democrats remember that Mueller could not exonerate Trump and was basically laying out a path toward censoring or impeachment in his report. There are more “goods” than the Ukraine cluster.

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Rightwingconspirator  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:39:24am

re: #221 goddamnedfrank

goddfuckingdamnit! Not me yet but uncomfortably close.

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The smoke is showing how strong the wind is. YIKES. The “Easy” fire? What a moniker.

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:43:05am

re: #229 The Pie Overlord!

Now we know The Transcript is perfectly bogus.

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There was no transcript. It was a summary. Trump lies about every dang thing

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Citizen K  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:45:30am

Gotta love that deep-set projection.

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Jebediah, RBG  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:46:05am

re: #93 gocart mozart

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I’ll be honest, I was expecting “good for an 11 year old.”
Her playing is so beautiful!

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:46:18am

re: #246 Citizen K

Where’s the recipe for impeachment.

It’s in the Constitution.

So it’s a secret then?

Only to those who don’t read the Constitution…

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Targetpractice  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:46:57am

re: #246 Citizen K

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Gotta love that deep-set projection.

Except for, you know, that one time in the 90s when it was the valiant effort of incorruptible Republicans working to remove a lawless president from the office.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:48:11am

re: #126 Dr Lizardo

All that’s needed for that Evangelical support to decline even further is for one of the really prominent fundie preachers to publicly come out and straight-up say, “We have been deceived! President Trump is the Antichrist!” and that will engender a schism among Trump’s Evangelical supporters.

Of course, these people have no principles at all but there would be some money in that for a really shrewd operator, quite possibly a LOT of money. Don’t be surprised if it happens.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:49:54am

re: #248 lawhawk

Where’s the recipe for impeachment.

It’s in the Constitution.

So it’s a secret then?

Only to those who don’t read the Constitution…

There are just so many things they keep hiding from wingnuts in books. Because reading is hard, and understanding the words is even harder.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:50:47am

re: #246 Citizen K

Gotta love that deep-set projection.

But don’t mention the fact that firearms are totally different now than when the 2A was written. JFC these fucking people. They really are turning into Putin TV but for Trump.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:51:10am

re: #249 Targetpractice

Except for, you know, that one time in the 90s when it was the valiant effort of incorruptible Republicans working to remove a lawless president from the office.

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Dana Milbank had a great op-ed today calling out Ken Starr for now being impeachment shy.

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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:56:55am
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lizardofid  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:58:24am

re: #250 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Of course, these people have no principles at all but there would be some money in that for a really shrewd operator, quite possibly a LOT of money. Don’t be surprised if it happens.

Might be just crazy enough for Pat Robertson.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:59:13am

re: #126 Dr Lizardo

All that’s needed for that Evangelical support to decline even further is for one of the really prominent fundie preachers to publicly come out and straight-up say, “We have been deceived! President Trump is the Antichrist!” and that will engender a schism among Trump’s Evangelical supporters.

Further, if you’re going to cash in on the Antichrist accusation, it would be hard to think of a better candidate than Trump. A major pulpit pimp could even cite his previous support for Trump as evidence, the evil one was so diabolically clever that “even the elect might be deceived.”
I think Pat Robertson just might be first to jump ship on Trump. He has a minor history of going rogue, as when he admonished young Earth creationists that they just made Christians look foolish. I don’t know if he has the energy for a giant fight with other leading fundies, but his handlers might.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 7:59:54am

re: #254 makeitstop

It’s all going to come out eventually that Trump for whatever reason: money, shared belief in autocracy, hatred of Obama and Clinton, whatever made him take Putin’s side over democratic and Western interests and I think that’s why Trump tries so hard to portray himself as “America First” when it’s actually anything but.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:00:16am

re: #252 HappyWarrior

But don’t mention the fact that firearms are totally different now than when the 2A was written. JFC these fucking people. They really are turning into Putin TV but for Trump.

Russia Today with Rifles

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:00:34am

re: #255 lizardofid

Might be just crazy enough for Pat Robertson.

Wow! See 256, composed before I saw your message. GMTA (and so do we apparently)

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:00:48am

re: #258 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Russia Today with Rifles

Peroxide Russian Today :).

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:01:09am

re: #248 lawhawk

Where’s the recipe for impeachment.

It’s in the Constitution.

So it’s a secret then?

Only to those who don’t read the Constitution…

none of these arguments are serious
none of these people would last 2 minutes if competently challenged to explain anything

it’s all they’ve got
and they know it

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:02:47am

re: #251 Eventual Carrion

There are just so many things they keep hiding from wingnuts in books. Because reading is hard, and understanding the words is even harder.

surprising because reading is fundie, isnt it?

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:03:43am

re: #261 DangerMan (Neologizer of AssGate)

none of these arguments are serious
none of these people would last 2 minutes if competently challenged to explain anything

it’s all they’ve got
and they know it

They just know whatever they spoonfeed to their audience who never paid attention in Civics or History class and only wants answers that confirm their confirmation biases will be accepted as fact. In a different time, FNC could easily have gotten a good chunk of America to accept that the Holocaust was the right thing. And yes I’m going there and here’s why. It’s because FNC repeatedly shows itself willing to lie to protect those whom they share an agenda with. I see nothing about Trump that suggests to me that he would have wanted to confront Hitler and Nazism in the 30’s and 40’s.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:03:49am
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Barefoot Grin  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:07:33am

No one here is shocked, I’m sure, but

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:12:48am

re: #265 Barefoot Grin

The moving average is showing a significant slowdown in manufacturing. Recession in manufacturing.

Overall growth is the kind that Trump used to raise red flags about - that it was a huge disaster and that he could do so much better.

Most of this is attributable to Trump’s idiotic trade wars. His economic policies are a disaster and he and his corrupt know nothing admin are busy trying to blame the Fed for the problem, not that Trump’s policies brought this about.

The Fed has been trying to slowly increase interest rates over time (giving them room to act if there’s an actual crisis). Trump’s policies greatly undercut that and the Fed has had to reverse course to reduce interest rates.

They’re also busy trying to keep the credit markets liquid. None of this is particularly good news.

So while the S&P and DJIA continue to hover around their highs, the fundamentals are showing signs of significant weakness.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:18:23am

re: #265 Barefoot Grin

No one here is shocked, I’m sure, but

The American people need to stop hearing TAX CUTS and think that’s good policy. It’s just not. I’m not sold on Bernie’s economic world view either and I’m not 100% on Warren either but right wing economics as we’ve been sold them first under Reagan, then Bush, and now Trump simply does not work.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:19:39am

True

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lizardofid  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:21:19am

re: #259 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Wow! See 256, composed before I saw your message. GMTA (and so do we apparently)

Pat could easily weave “signs” indicating Trump as the AC into his presentations. (Let’s face it, his rise has got to be in there somewhere) And the core believers would hardly be repulsed by the concept, as it advances the overall end times narrative.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:21:55am

re: #265 Barefoot Grin

Mechanism by which the GOP tax cut was supposed to supercharge growth was by supercharging business investment.
Business investment instead *fell* last quarter, by 3% annualized.

We mentioned this earlier.

It’s the Democrats’ fault for blocking legislation to cut or remove all those pesky and cumbersome health, safety, social, environmental and anti-monopoly laws and regulations that are so totally stifling our ability to compete.

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sagehen  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:22:14am

re: #247 Jebediah, RBG

I’ll be honest, I was expecting “good for an 11 year old.”
Her playing is so beautiful!

Same here. I didn’t even realize trumpets were capable of such subtlety.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:24:29am

re: #269 lizardofid

Pat could easily weave “signs” indicating Trump as the AC into his presentations. (Let’s face it, his rise has got to be in there somewhere) And the core believers would hardly be repulsed by the concept, as it advances the overall end times narrative.

Plus I don’t think Pat has the pull he used to. Michael Gerson was encouraged that the younger white Evangelicals aren’t as Trump friendly as their parents and grandparents are but Jerry Falwell, Jr isn’t exactly an old man. I’m not sure how old Robert Jeffress is but I imagine both of them are around the same age that Pat and Jerry Falwell Sr were when they helped make Reagan the WEP’s hero and the same age Billy Graham was when he became friendly with Nixon though Nixon never as far as I know was seen as a representative of WEP virtue the way Reagan and Trump are.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:24:41am

re: #268 goddamnedfrank

True

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Absolutely. It also drives the neighbors dog nuts when cooking on the backyard.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:28:00am

re: #273 Eventual Carrion

Absolutely. It also drives the neighbors dog nuts when cooking on the backyard.

It would be great if the dog’s name were Warrior and you could say, “warrior, come out to plaaaaaay” while clicking.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:28:44am

The elephant in the room that I don’t think Gerson seems to see is that the problem is with WEP culture. This is a man himself who came to Evangelical Christianity as a Reagan admirer. I’ll be blunt here. Reagan was an asshole to women the same way Trump is and his piety was just as fake as Donnie’s. But they embraced him over an actual Evangelical who understood religion. Evangelicals want to make the political leaders they support the voice of God and that was true under Reagan, W Bush, and now Trump and likewise they want to make their political adversaries whether that be Carter, the Clintons, Obama, or whoever the Dems nominate next Summer out to be the voice of Satan. There is no middle ground with them. It literally is biblical good and evil to them. And that comes from how their preachers preach to them.

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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:30:05am

Just got a notification on my phone that the Kevin Spacey sexual assault case has been dropped. The accuser has died.

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plansbandc  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:31:34am

Morbidly rich is an excellent description.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:31:47am

re: #276 makeitstop

Just got a notification on my phone that the Kevin Spacey sexual assault case has been dropped. The accuser has died.

I hope he doesn’t return to Hollywood like nothing happened. I have liked his acting over the years but as a person he really disgusts me.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:32:56am

re: #277 plansbandc

Morbidly rich is an excellent description.

Growing economic disparity is a huge problem in not only this country but around the world. The problem is I think too many economic lefties see the problem as only being rooted in economics.

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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:33:02am

re: #278 HappyWarrior

I hope he doesn’t return to Hollywood like nothing happened. I have liked his acting over the years but as a person he really disgusts me.

I think chances of that are slim. His reputation is pretty much shot, but you never know.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:33:27am

re: #280 makeitstop

I think chances of that are slim. His reputation is pretty much shot, but you never know.

Can only hope.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:33:41am

re: #278 HappyWarrior

I hope he doesn’t return to Hollywood like nothing happened. I have liked his acting over the years but as a person he really disgusts me.

I still recall that scene in House of Cards in which he turns to the camera and ad-libs an Oscar Wilde quote: “Everything is about sex. Except sex. Sex is about power.”

No wonder he was able to deliver it so convincingly.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:37:23am

re: #282 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I still recall that scene in House of Cards in which he turns to the camera and ad-libs an Oscar Wilde quote: “Everything is about sex. Except sex. Sex is about power.”

No wonder he was able to deliver it so convincingly.

Yeah that was quite a line. All the more eerie. It’s really creepy because he is a superficially charming guy. I remember a Funny or Die video that he did with Ben Stiller and some other celebrities that gave me a huge laugh and I’ve always been in awe of what a natural mimic he is but as a person he gives me teh willies.

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Mescalero09  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:39:47am

DL dropping some

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:39:48am

re: #278 HappyWarrior

I hope he doesn’t return to Hollywood like nothing happened. I have liked his acting over the years but as a person he really disgusts me.

He creeps me out the same way Woody Allen and Polanski do!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:39:58am

re: #283 HappyWarrior

Yeah that was quite a line. All the more eerie. It’s really creepy because he is a superficially charming guy. I remember a Funny or Die video that he did with Ben Stiller and some other celebrities that gave me a huge laugh and I’ve always been in awe of what a natural mimic he is but as a person he gives me teh willies.

But yeah, it explains how he did such a good job at portraying manipulative sociopaths…

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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:40:08am

I’m watching Alex Thomas’ Twitter TL about this Katie Hill ratfuck, and his tweet shows up…

I don’t speak fluent Twitter. Can someone please explain? SMOTI is mentioned, and there are references to bot-driven traffic, but I’m not fully up to speed here.

Thomas is dogging this story. Worth keeping an eye on.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:41:12am

re: #286 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But yeah, it explains how he did such a good job at portraying manipulative sociopaths…

That’s part of acting. You don’t totally get rid of who you actually are. I don’t know who Spacey trained with but that sounds like what Lee Strasburg was teaching in the 50’s.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:41:33am

re: #285 Joe Bacon 🌹

He creeps me out the same way Woody Allen and Polanski do!

Absolutely.

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jeffreyw  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:48:33am

re: #286 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

But yeah, it explains how he did such a good job at portraying manipulative sociopaths…

Same way John Wayne was so good at playing John Wayne.

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goddamnedfrank  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:55:48am

THIS is CNN

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:57:33am

re: #291 goddamnedfrank

THIS is CNN

They do that shit and he still complains about them. The best media in the age of Trump are the ones who are not afraid to go after his lies. Some are comedians, some are journalists like Soledad O’Brien, etc.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:57:53am

re: #284 Mescalero09

DL dropping some

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Evans blocked me. Can’t get to the clip.

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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2019 • 8:59:07am

re: #293 Joe Bacon 🌹

Evans blocked me. Can’t get to the clip.

Dear Van Jones, Donald Trump Isn’t Interested In Helping Black People

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:01:39am

re: #274 Barefoot Grin

It would be great if the dog’s name were Warrior and you could say, “warrior, come out to plaaaaaay” while clicking.

Ha. His name is Demon. A big ol’ pitbull, but sweet as can be. He’s not too fond of our cat tho’, she teases him.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:02:09am

re: #279 HappyWarrior

Growing economic disparity is a huge problem in not only this country but around the world. The problem is I think too many economic lefties see the problem as only being rooted in economics.

The pitchforks will come out at some point. The inability for a section of the populace to exist as human will cause an uprising. History repeats. The wheel turns, always back.History becomes legend, legend becomes myth, myth fades into obscurity and the stories repeat.

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Mescalero09  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:03:54am

re: #293 Joe Bacon 🌹

Evans blocked me. Can’t get to the clip.

Paste this -> Dear Van Jones, Donald Trump Isn’t Interested In Helping Black People

in Google and TV One Facebook page with video will come up

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:06:07am

so full of shit

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William Lewis  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:07:39am

Man, I dearly love the Foo FIghters…

Foo Fighters - Keep The Car Running [HQ]

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:07:53am

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

so full of shit

Our armed forces are funded fuckwad.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:09:13am

re: #300 HappyWarrior

Our armed forces are funded fuckwad.

The deplorables don’t know that, dear leader has spoketh and thus is true.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:11:20am

re: #301 Colère Tueur de Lapin

The deplorables don’t know that, dear leader has spoketh and thus is true.

Kind of how he likes to claim they had no ammo before he came along. I swear. The way he fucking lies is so insulting.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:11:46am

Every politician embellishes. Trump creates fucking absurd falsehoods.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:12:47am

currently:

YouTube

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Mike Lamb  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:17:08am

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

so full of shit

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Trump can re-tweet whatever the fuck he wants, but Moscow Mitch fucking knows he and his GOP enablers are blocking every damn thing coming out of the House. Gaslighting gets old.

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Targetpractice  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:17:39am

re: #298 Backwoods_Sleuth

so full of shit

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Meanwhile, in the real world, Schumer has been expressing worry that Donny will allow the gov’t to shutdown out of anger over impeachment.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:20:18am

Nifty costume. Btw, a baby porcupine is called a “porcupette,” which I think is one of the best factoids ever.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:23:53am

re: #306 Targetpractice

Meanwhile, in the real world, Schumer has been expressing worry that Donny will allow the gov’t to shutdown out of anger over impeachment.

That’s interesting. I was just talking to a coworker and her thoughts mirrored that perzectly.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:24:49am

Piper Cherokee

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Belafon  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:25:27am

re: #307 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

Nifty costume. Btw, a baby porcupine is called a “porcupette,” which I think is one of the best factoids ever.

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Already a better looking Sonic than the one they created for the movie.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:25:33am

re: #309 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

Piper Cherokee

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:26:23am
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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:27:42am

re: #312 Backwoods_Sleuth

But we don’t wanna be seen as standing with Nancy Pelosi. Can’t we not impeach him and pass tax cuts. //

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:33:32am

re: #268 goddamnedfrank

And if present, clicks must be directed at pets

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sagehen  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:37:26am

re: #296 Colère Tueur de Lapin

The pitchforks will come out at some point. The inability for a section of the populace to exist as human will cause an uprising. History repeats. The wheel turns, always back.History becomes legend, legend becomes myth, myth fades into obscurity and the stories repeat.

politico.com
The Pitchforks Are Coming… For Us Plutocrats

If we don’t do something to fix the glaring inequities in this economy, the pitchforks are going to come for us. No society can sustain this kind of rising inequality. In fact, there is no example in human history where wealth accumulated like this and the pitchforks didn’t eventually come out. You show me a highly unequal society, and I will show you a police state. Or an uprising. There are no counterexamples. None. It’s not if, it’s when.

(snip)

What everyone wants to believe is that when things reach a tipping point and go from being merely crappy for the masses to dangerous and socially destabilizing, that we’re somehow going to know about that shift ahead of time. Any student of history knows that’s not the way it happens. Revolutions, like bankruptcies, come gradually, and then suddenly. One day, somebody sets himself on fire, then thousands of people are in the streets, and before you know it, the country is burning. And then there’s no time for us to get to the airport and jump on our Gulfstream Vs and fly to New Zealand. That’s the way it always happens. If inequality keeps rising as it has been, eventually it will happen. We will not be able to predict when, and it will be terrible—for everybody. But especially for us.

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gwangung  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:40:41am

re: #315 sagehen

politico.com
The Pitchforks Are Coming… For Us Plutocrats

If we don’t do something to fix the glaring inequities in this economy, the pitchforks are going to come for us. No society can sustain this kind of rising inequality. In fact, there is no example in human history where wealth accumulated like this and the pitchforks didn’t eventually come out. You show me a highly unequal society, and I will show you a police state. Or an uprising. There are no counterexamples. None. It’s not if, it’s when.

(snip)

What everyone wants to believe is that when things reach a tipping point and go from being merely crappy for the masses to dangerous and socially destabilizing, that we’re somehow going to know about that shift ahead of time. Any student of history knows that’s not the way it happens. Revolutions, like bankruptcies, come gradually, and then suddenly. One day, somebody sets himself on fire, then thousands of people are in the streets, and before you know it, the country is burning. And then there’s no time for us to get to the airport and jump on our Gulfstream Vs and fly to New Zealand. That’s the way it always happens. If inequality keeps rising as it has been, eventually it will happen. We will not be able to predict when, and it will be terrible—for everybody. But especially for us.

Yup. Nick’s been sounding the alarm bell for quite some time….

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:41:38am

re: #306 Targetpractice

Meanwhile, in the real world, Schumer has been expressing worry that Donny will allow the gov’t to shutdown out of anger over impeachment.

This strategy will backfire…bigly.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:43:47am

re: #317 Eclectic Cyborg

This strategy will backfire…bigly.

It will be more clear than ever that he’s only in it to protect his own hide if he does that.

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:44:56am

re: #317 Eclectic Cyborg

This strategy will backfire…bigly.

bigger than bigly
and i say let him try

and i dont think chuck is all that scared
he’s “please, Br’er Fox, don’t fling me in dat brier-patch”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:45:04am

re: #317 Eclectic Cyborg

This strategy will backfire…bigly.

We have been waiting since 2015 for Trump to implode, he only seems to grow more bold…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:50:08am

Congressmen are still paid during a shutdown. They can still do plenty of impeachment related stuff.

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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:50:33am

Cute break!

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:51:38am

re: #320 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We have been waiting since 2015 for Trump to implode, he only seems to grow more bold…

More bold yes but you can’t tell me that he’s grown more politically strong since November 2016. .

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Belafon  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:52:13am

re: #320 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We have been waiting since 2015 for Trump to implode, he only seems to grow more bold…

He didn’t win the last showdown either. His implosion would only affect his reelection and he isn’t doing so hot on that front.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:53:09am

re: #323 HappyWarrior

More bold yes but you can’t tell me that he’s grown more politically strong since November 2016. .

He was predicted to go down for pussy grabbing, McCain bashing, Comey firing, Pee Taping, AG firing, etc., but he always gets a Mulligan and a nod from Mitch to continue.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:53:38am

re: #324 Belafon

He didn’t win the last showdown either. His implosion would only affect his reelection and he isn’t doing so hot on that front.

Thank you. Yeah he hasn’t been removed yet. That’s NOT because of him. That’s because his party are gutless cowards. He’s weaker than ever politically.

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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:54:11am

re: #325 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He was predicted to go down for pussy grabbing, McCain bashing, Comey firing, Pee Taping, AG firing, etc., but he always gets a Mulligan and a nod from Mitch to continue.

To quote Dangerman - ‘Sometimes you have to let nature take its course.’

That dam will break. Just a matter of time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:55:06am

re: #327 makeitstop

To quote Dangerman - ‘Sometimes you have to let nature take its course.’

That dam will break. Just a matter of time.

‘cept this ain’t natural no more, we have entered a weird new dimension, the New Media Reality…

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:55:29am

re: #325 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He was predicted to go down for pussy grabbing, McCain bashing, Comey firing, Pee Taping, AG firing, etc., but he always gets a Mulligan and a nod from Mitch to continue.

You didn’t answer my question. What has happened since he’s become President? Better yet look at what’s happened in the past month. Support for impeachment is way up. It took some time but he’s not in a good spot right now. You’re focused only on what happened before November 2016 when he was a blank slate presidentially. People have seen what he is in the Executive Office and they ain’t happy. Yeah he has some loyal true believers but that always happens.

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stpaulbear  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:56:48am

re: #242 Jebediah, RBG

Sure, but it’s so much more fun than the celibacy soup.

Does celibacy soup come in a can?

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lawhawk  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:57:41am

re: #329 HappyWarrior

You didn’t answer my question. What has happened since he’s become President? Better yet look at what’s happened in the past month. Support for impeachment is way up. It took some time but he’s not in a good spot right now. You’re focused only on what happened before November 2016 when he was a blank slate presidentially. People have seen what he is in the Executive Office and they ain’t happy. Yeah he has some loyal true believers but that always happens.

GOP continues defending him and spewing claptrap and deflecting/projecting like IMAX to claim Democrats are doing the very crimes that Trump has already admitted to openly and on video. It’s DARVO/IOKIYAR all rolled into one.

The media isn’t helping either, as they continue to magic balance fairy the hell out of things, when none of what Trump is doing has an equivalent anywhere in our history.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:58:11am

re: #327 makeitstop

To quote Dangerman - ‘Sometimes you have to let nature take its course.’

That dam will break. Just a matter of time.

In the summer, we were wondering if Pelosi would ever move forward with impeachment. Now impeachment is inevitable IMO. Removal? Yeah I don’t know yet but Pelosi and the Dems seem quite adapt at giving him his own rope to hang himself with. Trump was at his most unpredictable politically to beat when he was an empty slate. We are about to enter our fourth year of his presidency in January. Bringing up what happened in 2015-16 is nice but it’s not what is happening now and what is happening now will tell us what will happen to his re-election chances. People who doom and gloom can’t say objectively anything he’s doing that will help his chances. He’s done a lot to hurt his chances and we’re going to see the fruit of that this and especialy next fall.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:59:22am

re: #331 lawhawk

GOP continues defending him and spewing claptrap and deflecting/projecting like IMAX to claim Democrats are doing the very crimes that Trump has already admitted to openly and on video. It’s DARVO/IOKIYAR all rolled into one.

The media isn’t helping either, as they continue to magic balance fairy the hell out of things, when none of what Trump is doing has an equivalent anywhere in our history.

Yeah the media and GOP are useless. But the actual American people? He got booed at 100 decibels at the World Series and had his own chant used against him. I live in a Republican held state senate and delegate seat. Both I see a good chance flipping.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:59:35am

re: #329 HappyWarrior

You didn’t answer my question. What has happened since he’s become President? Better yet look at what’s happened in the past month. Support for impeachment is way up. It took some time but he’s not in a good spot right now. You’re focused only on what happened before November 2016 when he was a blank slate presidentially. People have seen what he is in the Executive Office and they ain’t happy. Yeah he has some loyal true believers but that always happens.

I know, but he still has a lot of executive aces up his voluminous sleeves, they are risky, but there is still a lot he can do to turn public opinion around, and our media will go along like lapdogs while he continues to whine about how unfair they are…

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DangerMan (misuser of the sarc tag)  Oct 30, 2019 • 9:59:56am

re: #320 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

We have been waiting since 2015 for Trump to implode, he only seems to grow more bold…

we know the house will pass a budget or CR
senate doesnt pass it’s on the senate - ie on mitch
trump vetos - it’s squarely on him.
if senate doesn’t/can’t override… it sits on trump and or the senate

right before thanksgiving and christmas

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 10:03:52am

re: #334 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I know, but he still has a lot of executive aces up his voluminous sleeves, they are risky, but there is still a lot he can do to turn public opinion around, and our media will go along like lapdogs while he continues to whine about how unfair they are…

I really think you greatly overestimate him as President. He hasn’t done a damn thing to increase public opinion in his favor while President. You keep on going back and I understand why to when he was a candidate. My argument is that it was easier for him to manipulate the narrative when he was a candidate because no one actually knew what his presidency was going to be like. We’ve had three years of rage tweets, stupid bragging, trashing allies, etc. It’s going to be at a bitch to portray himself as the savior when he now has to defend his record.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 10:05:38am

I just think we have to separate “Candidate Trump”, “Nominee Trump”, and “President Trump.” The latter hasn’t shown anything to me that suggests he can fix the narrative in his favor. We shouldn’t underestimate him but we shouldn’t treat him like Machiavelli either.

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danarchy  Oct 30, 2019 • 10:09:21am

re: #333 HappyWarrior

Yeah the media and GOP are useless. But the actual American people? He got booed at 100 decimals decibels at the World Series and had his own chant used against him. I live in a Republican held state senate and delegate seat. Both I see a good chance flipping.

Seen you make the same mistake twice so I figured I would correct it for future reference.

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HappyWarrior  Oct 30, 2019 • 10:11:57am

re: #338 danarchy

Seen you make the same mistake twice so I figured I would correct it for future reference.

Thanks. My bad. Anyhow, I just refuse to live in fear of what he might do politically. I really think he’s going to be a rare President that struggles more as an incumbent than challenger.

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makeitstop  Oct 30, 2019 • 10:21:56am

re: #334 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

there is still a lot he can do to turn public opinion around

Like what?

He tried wagging the dog with al-Baghdadi, and ended up getting booed at a World Series game. Hell, he literally tried wagging the dog with the dog that got injured in the raid and was mocked. Support for impeachment is growing by the day. White House aides are testifying against him at this point.

So, what can he do to turn things around? Embrace the liberal agenda? Suddenly turn into Mr. Nice Guy? Legalize weed?

Honestly. Attitudes toward Trump have been baking in for three years. There’s no way he’s going to make any move to turn things around that’s going to be seen as the least bit sincere.

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steve_davis  Oct 30, 2019 • 12:12:38pm

re: #90 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀

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