House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is refusing to commit to send the articles of impeachment to the Senate, until Mitch McConnell backs down from his pledge to kill the trial and agrees to bring in first-hand witnesses. And this clip succinctly explains why.
(h/t: @owillis)
I will take your word for it. Safari Is not displaying it for me. :(
Wanted to thank everyone from downstairs for the kind words. My family and I greatly appreciate it.
re: #2 Charles Johnson
Thanks. Nancy explains it beautifully.
re: #3 HappyWarrior
Wanted to thank everyone from downstairs for the kind words. My family and I greatly appreciate it.
You’re welcome fella. I was blessed that Grandma Bacon lived to 107.
Man, she can twist the knife with the best of them. She’s the leader we need right now.
re: #3 HappyWarrior
Wanted to thank everyone from downstairs for the kind words. My family and I greatly appreciate it.
My first and only thought was that since your grandmother got you interested in politics you keep her memory alive by continuing the good fight.
“he finally got more votes than us” pic.twitter.com/WlOpxWmcNH
— m i t h (@ManlnTheHoody) December 19, 2019
re: #7 I Would Prefer Not To
My first and only thought was that since your grandmother got you interested in politics you keep her memory alive by continuing the good fight.
That’s a great point.
re: #8 Disloyal Archangel
I like that one. :)
“Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (Hawaii), a 2020 Democratic presidential candidate, criticized Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) after she said that she would delay delivering House-passed impeachment articles against President Trump in an effort to ensure a fair trial in the Senate.”
She is nothing but a little grub worm on the face of the Democratic presidential primary race… She is obviously a Republican waiting for her chance to change parties.
re: #6 makeitstop
Man, she can twist the knife with the best of them. She’s the leader we need right now.
And people wanted to get rid of her. When Nancy steps down from the Speakership, the man or woman who replaces her will have big shoes to fill. Nancy is one of the most effective Speakers in history. She got ACA passed, got impeachment, and when she was a party leader in the House in 2003 she got most of the Dems to vote against the mistake that was the Iraq War Resolution. It really disappoints me that many of the left wingers of my generation do not appreciate how savvy a politician this woman really is because she doesn’t promise them the world.
re: #11 terraincognita
“Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (Hawaii), a 2020 Democratic presidential candidate, criticized Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) after she said that she would delay delivering House-passed impeachment articles against President Trump in an effort to ensure a fair trial in the Senate.”
She is nothing but a little grub worm on the face of the Democratic presidential primary race… She is obviously a Republican waiting for her chance to change parties.
No words for Mitch or Trump for holding up witness testimony huh Tulsi? We fucking see you.
re: #11 terraincognita
She is obviously a Republican waiting for her chance to change parties.
I see her more as an opportunist waiting for her chance to cash in on the wingnut welfare circuit.
Donald Trump has turned military discipline and order on its head, while degrading those in uniform who do not pledge undying personal loyalty to him, while taking funds from military families to build his racist vanity wall.
The result?#TrumpIsANationalSecurityThreat pic.twitter.com/YwqmSmGnGD— VoteVets (@votevets) December 17, 2019
MCCONNELL confirms he’s meeting with Schumer this afternoon.
Asked how he feels about Speaker Pelosi potentially holding onto the articles of impeachment, he says, “If the speaker wants to hold onto them it’s fine with us.”— Frank Thorp V (@frankthorp) December 19, 2019
You know this, and yet you didn’t have the courage to vote to impeach this rotten bastard. Empty words. https://t.co/zPs8HZEEaO
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 19, 2019
re: #15 Charles Johnson
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Pardoning war crimes can’t be helping either. Disloyalty will be met with friendly fire followed by a get out of jail free card.
re: #11 terraincognita
“Rep. Tulsi Gabbard … is nothing but a little grub worm on the face of the Democratic presidential primary race… She is obviously a Republican waiting for her chance to change parties.
She is simply being groomed and propped up by a lot of trolls and ratfuckers because she is a good way for them to attack the Democrats without giving away their own positions.
re: #18 Teddy’s Person
Pardoning war crimes can’t be helping either. Disloyalty will be met with friendly fire followed by a get out of jail free card.
They also sense that if Trump really feels backed into a corner he will play the “Start a War in some Obscure Corner of the Globe” card…at their expense.
The Fenians’ 1866 marching song, cited in a recent Canadian history:
We are the Fenian Brotherhood, skilled in the art of war.
And we’re going to fight for Ireland, the land that we adore.
Many battles we have won, along with the boys in blue.
And we’ll go and capture Canada, for we’ve nothing else to do.
Pretty much describes the motivation and outcome of the enterprise.
re: #17 Charles Johnson
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I just wish they would go along with him. It would be more honest at least.
POTUS lawyers are looking at various options for proceeding if House doesn’t send articles of impeachment to the Senate. POTUS doesn’t want it to be left hanging that he was impeached and nothing was done by Republicans to defend him in the Senate.
— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) December 19, 2019
What could they do, honestly? Acquit him of articles that weren’t presented?
To recall a phrase from Nixon’s impeachment - I’m absolutely fine with leaving him twisting slowly in the wind.
re: #23 makeitstop
POTUS lawyers are looking at various options for proceeding if House doesn’t send articles of impeachment to the Senate. POTUS doesn’t want it to be left hanging that he was impeached and nothing was done by Republicans to defend him in the Senate
They know that any witnesses they call will inevitably wind up contradicting either themselves or other sworn testimony, opening up a king-size can of worms…
re: #23 makeitstop
Trump’s the ultimate snowflake with a thin skin. He’s a bully with a microphone.
But he can’t take a hit because he’s got a glass jaw and Pelosi showed him for who he has always been - a corrupt and criminal little man.
Love this comment…
Here’s the part in the story where House Democrats look Cipollone squarely in the eye, tilt their head slightly to the left and say: Kiss My Constitutionally-Correct Ass.
— the Kahuna of Doom (@lildonsgolfbro) December 19, 2019
re: #24 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
Trump’s the one blocking witnesses who supposedly exonerate Trump.
Why?
Because none of them exonerate Trump but implicate him and them in crimes. Everyone there knows it. But they perpetuate the lie because Trump demands it and the base buys his baffling bulkshit word for word.
I just listened to the first few minutes of Preet’s podcast. He makes the point that holding the articles from the senate plays into Trump’s and McConnell’s hands because they’d rather not have a trial at all. I somewhat disagree. If the Dems keep aggressively pursing investigations—like Trump’s attempt to have McGahn cover up for him—then they can add (I think) more articles and shift public perceptions.
Hmmm, so what you’re saying is that threatening to withhold a valued asset in exchange for a desired political outcome is….bad? https://t.co/y0R2Zkw0so
— Rafi Schwartz (@TheJewishDream) December 19, 2019
re: #28 Barefoot Grin
I just listened to the first few minutes of Preet’s podcast. He makes the point that holding the articles from the senate plays into Trump’s and McConnell’s hands because they’d rather not have a trial at all. I somewhat disagree. If the Dems keep aggressively pursing investigations—like Trump’s attempt to have McGahn cover up for him—then they can add (I think) more articles and shift public perceptions.
The Dems need to make it clear to the public that McConnell in his own words wasn’t prepared to play fair. I’d also really consider making Amash an impeachment manager. I don’t like the guy. His brand of libertarianism is the ultimate fuck you, I got mine mentality but he’s able to articulate quite well why Trump needs to go and it would show the public that this isn’t a partisan hit job no matter how much Trump and his cult want it to be.
re: #24 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
They know that any witnesses they call will inevitably wind up contradicting either themselves or other sworn testimony, opening up a king-size can of worms…
“No, Mr. President. You can’t have your trial at the Supreme Court. No, Brett Kavanagh can’t be the judge. No, we can’t televise it on Fox News only. No, we will not call Maria Baritromo as a witness…”
The Trumpian style has really infected the GOP rather quickly. If Moscow Mitch would have just shut the fuck up about the impeachment trial, they could have quickly acquitted the orange baby-man. But no, Trump needs to be publicly fellated on a daily basis leaving the GOP little choice but to broadcast their intentions. It almost like Trump is not an outlier in GOPland.
re: #28 Barefoot Grin
I just listened to the first few minutes of Preet’s podcast. He makes the point that holding the articles from the senate plays into Trump’s and McConnell’s hands because they’d rather not have a trial at all. I somewhat disagree. If the Dems keep aggressively pursing investigations—like Trump’s attempt to have McGahn cover up for him—then they can add (I think) more articles and shift public perceptions.
And all Dems would have to do is go before the cameras every day and say ‘It’s been _ days since we held the vote and the Senate still refuses to negotiate in good faith. What are they afraid of?’
It’ll catch on.
re: #32 Teddy’s Person
The Trumpian style has really infected the GOP rather quickly. If Moscow Mitch would have just shut the fuck up about the impeachment trial, they could have quickly acquitted the orange baby-man. But no, Trump needs to be publicly fellated on a daily basis leaving the GOP little choice but to broadcast their intentions. It almost like Trump is not an outlier in GOPland.
Mitch is finally in over his head. He’s going to rue the day that he held up Garland’s nomination. I hope him and Elaine Chao spend their last years as paupers.
Clyburn said “it’s the opposite of that.” Sorry about the frontal lobotomy, but it’s no excuse for lying, Charlie. https://t.co/UUfivZ0LgJ
— Bob Cesca (@bobcesca_go) December 19, 2019
re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth
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He said “it’s the opposite of that.” How do you sleep at night? https://t.co/oY0Q6ZPBS9
— Bob Cesca (@bobcesca_go) December 19, 2019
re: #30 HappyWarrior
The Dems need to make it clear to the public that McConnell in his own words wasn’t prepared to play fair. I’d also really consider making Amash an impeachment manager. I don’t like the guy. His brand of libertarianism is the ultimate fuck you, I got mine mentality but he’s able to articulate quite well why Trump needs to go and it would show the public that this isn’t a partisan hit job no matter how much Trump and his cult want it to be.
Amash actually believes the things he says he believes.
There’s no place for that in today’s GOP.
Stock market reached new highs thanks to Trump being impeached.
Oh, you mean you can’t parse the news that way?
Let’s try this - markets soared on news of Trump being impeached by the House for high crimes.
IT IS A TERRIBLE THING YOU ARE DOING, BUT YOU WILL HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT, NOT I—!!!#PresidentSupervillain pic.twitter.com/OG84vpd0eN
— President Supervillain (@PresVillain) December 18, 2019
By all means, let’s focus on the *positive* aspect of saying John Dingell is roasting in hell. https://t.co/loTZgKQr5u
— Susan Gardner (@SusanGDailyKos) December 19, 2019
Ed Rollins, OG Republican asshole…
Ed Rollins sees President as the “ultimate power” and Congress just shuffles along, maybe checking and balancing. That is NOT what is laid out in the Constitution. https://t.co/kZshNoh7ay
— Immigrants BELONG here (@NotAcquiescing) December 19, 2019
re: #36 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Says a guy who has a woman in his organization that says the Nazis were fine until they invaded Poland. It’s a figure of fucking speech. But go on be the troll loser that you are that failed civics and didn’t get into West Point because he’s a stupid moron who is a really stupid man’s Ben Shapiro.
re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth
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He literally said the man was in Hell. But yeah they’re just going to fixate on everything negative he says. Maybe because he doesn’t know how to act with any sort of dignity and he’s unfit to be called a man let alone a President.
re: #42 makeitstop
Ed Rollins, OG Republican asshole…
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Presidents don’t have ultimate power. But I get it, Ed belongs to a party of assholes who still isn’t over that Nixon got what he deserved for Watergate.
Posting here because I succeeded in getting CL’ed in last thread.
re: #354 Decatur Deb
In the 1860 census, there were only a few hundred people with our family name in the US. One became a Union general. (He later invaded Canada in a Fenian incursion.) Another, a sergeant, is listed on a North Side Pittsburgh monument as KIA in a light artillery battery.
I suspect that you’re referencing Battery “F”, Hampton’s Battery, Pennsylvania Independent Light Artillery, they certainly were in the thick of things in the Eastern Theater for most of the Civil War. I think that there is a monument to them in West Park on the North Side.
There was also a Battery “B”, Muehler’s Battery, Pennsylvania Independent Light Artillery. It served in the thick of things of the Western Theater of the Civil War.
Apparently, Pittsburgh boys relished a good fight.
My family was originally from the Kansas-Missouri border. One relative who was around at the time served in the 10th Kansas Cavalry.
re: #40 The Pie Overlord!
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I want out of this timeline. When I looked at that tweet, my immediate thought was Stephen Miller is cribbing from comic books. Then I clicked through and familiarized myself with the President Supervillian account. But man, for a moment I wasn’t even shocked to think that comic book dialog made it into presidential correspondence.
The Trump asskissers just can’t face the facts that Trump made his name known in presidential politics by declaring Mexican immigrants to be rapists and murderers, mocked POWs for being captured while he himself and no one in his family has ever worn a military uniform, and mocked a disabled reporter. Yeah I have negative opinions of Donald Trump. My question for them is simple, why the hell should I have any positive opinions of this guy? Everyone knows that he’s a scumbag. Republicans knew it and were scared to death of him getting their nomination to the point that their leaders were ready to settle on Ted Cruz who is about as likable as a glass of beer left out in the August sun all day.
re: #24 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
They know that any witnesses they call will inevitably wind up contradicting either themselves or other sworn testimony, opening up a king-size can of worms…
Witness testimony in a Senate trial is the GOP’s ultimate nightmare, for the very reasons you cited.
The question Republicans and the administration have never answered is this: why was the president’s personal attorney making policy in Ukraine over the Ambassador and furthermore why did the the President’s attorney engage in a smear campaign of said ambassador? Rudy is Trump’s attorney not a government appointee. I don’t think even Nixon involved his personal attorney in the Watergate cover up.
re: #39 lawhawk
Stock market reached new highs thanks to Trump being impeached.
Oh, you mean you can’t parse the news that way?
Let’s try this - markets soared on news of Trump being impeached by the House for high crimes.
So what’s the analysis here? That markets are pleased because of the prospect of Trump getting the boot? Or that they know he’s going to skate in the Senate, so keep on buying?
Or, on the third hand, that stock markets may or not react to each day’s news instantly? Or as facile “news” analysis might lead the (unfamiliar) public to think?
‘We won’t leave this gate until you let us vaccinate!’ — Border Patrol arrested these doctors who were trying to give flu shots to detained immigrant kids pic.twitter.com/6fgZ8SGQKb
— NowThis (@nowthisnews) December 19, 2019
re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth
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There’s a whole ecosystem that immediately picks up the campaign’s complete nonsense and amplifies it to millions of people. pic.twitter.com/N3ncNOBgxy
— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) December 19, 2019
re: #48 HappyWarrior
The Trump asskissers just can’t face the facts that Trump made his name known in presidential politics by declaring Mexican immigrants to be rapists and murderers,
Yeah, I mean, just look at these criminals just brazenly dancing through the streets:
(don’t know why, but I really dig that song)
re: #54 BeachDem
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Their campaign’s chant for HRC was “Lock her up.” And hell they were still doing that at Bozo’s Nuremberg Rally when he damned Dingell to hell. There’s nothing more disgusting than fake GOP outrage knowing what’s in their party’s rotten core.
re: #55 Dr Lizardo
Yeah, I mean, just look at these criminals just brazenly dancing through the streets:
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(don’t know why, but I really dig that song)
Trump’s made it clear. He views Hispanics as criminals. He thinks they have no right to search for a better life here like two of his wives did and his mother. Maybe it would have been better if Mother Trump stayed in Scotland and married a decent Scottish guy instead of Fred. We at least wouldn’t have to know the pig that is their son.
re: #46 ckkatz
Posting here because I succeeded in getting CL’ed in last thread.
I suspect that you’re referencing Battery “F”, Hampton’s Battery, Pennsylvania Independent Light Artillery, they certainly were in the thick of things in the Eastern Theater for most of the Civil War. I think that there is a monument to them in West Park on the North Side.
There was also a Battery “B”, Muehler’s Battery, Pennsylvania Independent Light Artillery. It served in the thick of things of the Western Theater of the Civil War.
Apparently, Pittsburgh boys relished a good fight.
My family was originally from the Kansas-Missouri border. One relative who was around at the time served in the 10th Kansas Cavalry.
Yup—the monument is the obelisk between Alleghany General Hospital and the river. Our family lived in the area at odd times, and HW had family nearby.
re: #58 Decatur Deb
Yup—the monument is the obelisk between Alleghany General Hospital and the river. Our family lived in the area at odd times, and HW had family nearby.
Yep. Great Nana lived a lot of her life on Hamlin Street in Manchester. She and Pap Pap are buried in Christ Our Redeemer but her folks are in St. Mary’s Catholic along with her brother and sister who died as kids.
WHY is LEV PARNAS claiming executive privilege at his bail hearing? Does he believe he was working directly for TRUMP at the WH?
Was TRUMP receiving funds or benefits from 50 bank accounts seized by the Feds?
Is #RudyColludy behind it all? https://t.co/zIFbZeGxts— Karen Myatt (@karenamyatt) December 19, 2019
I think there’s something that we don’t really know that Pelosi and McConnell do, and that’s why Pelosi is delaying and McConnell is getting this pissed off at what will probably be a few weeks’ delay. Either Trump is about to blow up (worse) if he doesn’t get some sort of acquittal RIGHT NOW, or there are at least four wobbly gooper Senators that want some sort of real trial. I’m guessing the latter, because if there’s one thing that Pelosi is real good at it’s counting noses.
re: #61 Teddy’s Person
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re: #60 lawhawk
Star Wars is good but I am still in a Downton Abbey frame of mind since I got my dvd of the movie yesterday. It is a darn good movie. :)
Got a Consumer Reports email that the Senate passed the anti-robocall bill that has been in the works for over five years. If it is signed by DT and actually works, it would be a real boon to our lives! (Even if people lose their jobs over it: I don’t care!)
re: #65 retired cynic
That is good news. :)
re: #12 HappyWarrior
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re: #64 PhillyPretzel
Star Wars is good but I am still in a Downton Abbey frame of mind since I got my dvd of the movie yesterday. It is a darn good movie. :)
You’ve seen the new Star Wars film? Which a reviewer compared to the disastrous last season of GOT? And you disagree with that evaluation?
re: #65 retired cynic
Got a Consumer Reports email that the Senate passed the anti-robocall bill that has been in the works for over five years. If it is signed by DT and actually works, it would be a real boon to our lives! (Even if people lose their jobs over it: I don’t care!)
I can’t tell you how many times I get “Your vehicle’s warranity” blah blah. So annoying. I’m glad I don’t work in law anymore because it would drive me crazy trying to figure out which calls were from clients, insurers, etc and which were robos. I answer every call I get because you never know.
re: #67 steve_davis
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January 3, 1995Sorry, the formatting got lost there, but this is what Republicans are fighting, and know is coming: Democrats literally controlled the House of Representatives for two generations. And they’ll eventually control the Senate as well. Once that happens, the Republican party is dead.
The Senate is always a bit tricky to tell but Republicans are definitely losing the demographic battle. And the more honest ones admit that’s why they’re dicks to minorities. The truth is it didn’t have to be that way. W Bush had a lot of faults but his perception of communities of color isn’t one of them.
re: #26 makeitstop
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Jonathan, the last crook you defended in a senate impeachment trial was found guilty on multiple counts of corruption and removed from office. Maybe sit this one out. https://t.co/qpXgGE43Wb
— Rep. Eric Swalwell (@RepSwalwell) December 19, 2019
“We’ve turned the Republican party into a working-class party,” said Bannon, relaxing at a table with an autographed photo of Trump behind him. “Now, interestingly, we don’t have any elected representatives who believe that, but that’s a legacy issue. We’ll get over that. We’ve got to find our AOCs.”
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The Democrats and their supporters have “better casting”, Bannon admitted. “They did an amazing job in 18. I keep saying I admire AOC. I think her ideology’s all fucked up, but I want her. I want to recruit bartenders. I don’t want to recruit any more lawyers. I want bartenders.”Congressional Republicans are dominated by ageing white men from comfortable backgrounds. Among Democrats, Bannon also pointed to military veterans … “That’s perfect casting. That’s why we got smoked.”
Source: The Gardian
I hate this framing. It wasn’t casting. People fucking stepped up to stop the monster you helped unleash.
re: #58 Decatur Deb
Yup—the monument is the obelisk between Alleghany General Hospital and the river. Our family lived in the area at odd times, and HW had family nearby.
By the way, there is an ACW (American Civil War) reenactor group for Hampton’s Battery:
hamptonsbatteryf.com
It includes some of the Battery’s history:
hamptonsbatteryf.com
re: #72 Teddy’s Person
I hate this framing. It wasn’t casting. People fucking stepped up to stop the monster you helped unleash.
Bannon just doesn’t get that Democrats serve their country too. I’m named after my maternal grandfather, a Korean War vet who hated the Republican Party. Republicans like to talk about how they respect veterans but veterans have always been props to Steve’s party, a way to attack Democrats and liberals for not being “real Americans” Bannon isn’t stupid but he sure as hell is deluded about what he’s up against. He’s up against a coalition that resembles America rather than his sorry ass who have no original thoughts to offer.
re: #70 HappyWarrior
The Senate is always a bit tricky to tell but Republicans are definitely losing the demographic battle. And the more honest ones admit that’s why they’re dicks to minorities. The truth is it didn’t have to be that way. W Bush had a lot of faults but his perception of communities of color isn’t one of them.
Hard to know what will happen — a lot depends on voter suppression, gerrymandering, and voter disenfranchisement. But in the past 12 House elections, Democrats won only 4 of them. Losing the demographic battle doesn’t mean losing control, especially when you have the financial resources to control the media.
re: #75 Hecuba’s daughter
Hard to know what will happen — a lot depends on voter suppression, gerrymandering, and voter disenfranchisement. But in the past 12 House elections, Democrats won only 4 of them. Losing the demographic battle doesn’t mean losing control, especially when you have the financial resources to control the media.
I really am trying to stay as glass half full as possible. Given what I’m going through on a personal level, I really don’t want to think about the Republicans money. They’re not dead no but the changing demographics are catching up to them. A lot of attention rightfully was given to how we flipped the legislature here in Va but we also elected a lot of other Democrats to state wide positions too.
The most amusing thing to me about Bannon is he acts like he’s this champion of the underdog and rails against the banks. I’m not fond of populism in general but I’m particularly not fond of it when it comes from a drunk asshole like Bannon who takes millions of dollars from a sugar mommy and daddy to fund his sorry ass.
re: #35 HappyWarrior
Mitch is finally in over his head. He’s going to rue the day that he held up Garland’s nomination. I hope him and Elaine Chao spend their last years as paupers.
Or in prison.
re: #78 Jebediah, RBG
Or in prison.
I’d take that too but seeing them have to see how the other side lives would be nice too.
have you told your favorite Trumper to Get Over It today?
re: #70 HappyWarrior
The Senate is always a bit tricky to tell but Republicans are definitely losing the demographic battle. And the more honest ones admit that’s why they’re dicks to minorities. The truth is it didn’t have to be that way. W Bush had a lot of faults but his perception of communities of color isn’t one of them.
As far as the GOP is concerned, you’re right…..it didn’t need to be that way. But they chose a different path.
One road says “America is for white, Christian people”.
The other road says “America is for people, regardless of the color of your skin, or your ancestry, or your faith - or lack of faith, for that matter. What unites us is the idea of government for the people, by the people, and of the people and that all of us are created equal, endowed with certain inalienable rights, chief among these rights being life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness…..no matter who you are, or where you’re from, or whom you love.”
It’s the old argument of a hierarchical society vs. an egalitarian society…..and for conservatives, an egalitarian society is nothing less than a nightmare.
re: #73 ckkatz
By the way, there is an ACW (American Civil War) reenactor group for Hampton’s Battery:
hamptonsbatteryf.comIt includes some of the Battery’s history:
hamptonsbatteryf.com
Great site(s), and the photos show the monument is a typical artilleryman on a plinth. Long time since I’ve seen it.
Howdy Lizards:
impeaching trump has backfired and made his supporters very mad and racist, something they usually never are
— raandy (@randygdub) December 19, 2019
For historical context, we’re currently sitting around Berlin - early March 1933, with McConnell fully onboard for passing the Enabling Acts which would strip all power from Congress and ban opposition parties. If Trump somehow prevents a number of House members from being seated in the next month or so, all bets are off on how far he will go to seize absolute power.
re: #56 HappyWarrior
Their campaign’s chant for HRC was “Lock her up.” And hell they were still doing that at Bozo’s Nuremberg Rally when he damned Dingell to hell. There’s nothing more disgusting than fake GOP outrage knowing what’s in their party’s rotten core.
yeah they’re some sensitive souls, Eff Your Feelings, Trumpers
Welp. What did JK Rowling do that has all the Twitter scolds after her?
re: #81 Dr Lizardo
As far as the GOP is concerned, you’re right…..it didn’t need to be that way. But they chose a different path.
One road says “America is for white, Christian people”.
The other road says “America is for people, regardless of the color of your skin, or your ancestry, or your faith - or lack of faith, for that matter. What unites us is the idea of government for the people, by the people, and of the people and that all of us are created equal, endowed with certain inalienable rights, chief among these rights being life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness…..no matter who you are, or where you’re from, or whom you love.”
It’s the old argument of a hierarchical society vs. an egalitarian society…..and for conservatives, an egalitarian society is nothing less than a nightmare.
Exactly. They chose their path. They can wallow in self pity when we elect a Hispanic president and wonder why their party still looks like a 50’s board room.
re: #77 HappyWarrior
The most amusing thing to me about Bannon is he acts like he’s this champion of the underdog and rails against the banks. I’m not fond of populism in general but I’m particularly not fond of it when it comes from a drunk asshole like Bannon who takes millions of dollars from a sugar mommy and daddy to fund his sorry ass.
Bannon is a fake, phony fraud “underdog champion” as his primary concern is with forming nationalist movements within white-dominant countries. This is not a true hero of underdogs.
His movements inspire those with a built-in sense of Entitlement based on their light skin color. White Supremacism is not championing the “underdog”. It is reinforcing grievances and promoting divisions in order for demagogues and authoritarians to obtain power. Bannon’s movement hates democracy and but eager to use it strategically to weaken it long term.
re: #75 Hecuba’s daughter
Hard to know what will happen — a lot depends on voter suppression, gerrymandering, and voter disenfranchisement. But in the past 12 House elections, Democrats won only 4 of them. Losing the demographic battle doesn’t mean losing control, especially when you have the financial resources to control the media.
Here’s why things are different now: why didn’t AOC run in 2016? Why didn’t MJ Hegar run in 2016? Why didn’t all those amazing people run 2 years earlier? The answer is that people were comfortable. Too many people thought that things were going to be ok. Now people realize they have to step up.
re: #88 Florida Panhandler
Bannon is a fake, phony fraud “underdog champion” as his primary concern is with forming nationalist movements within white-dominant countries. This is not a true hero of underdogs.
His movements inspire those with a built-in sense of Entitlement based on their light skin color. White Supremacism is not championing the “underdog”. It is reinforcing grievances and promoting divisions in order for demagogues and authoritarians to obtain power. Bannon’s movement hates democracy and but eager to use it strategically to weaken it long term.
Bannon is a fascist. It’s that simple. There’s not a democratic bone in that guy’s body.
re: #86 Charles Johnson
Welp. What did JK Rowling do that has all the Twitter scolds after her?
Given the fan base that exists around her works, probably did another retroactive edit that totally upends years of canon.
re: #86 Charles Johnson
Welp. What did JK Rowling do that has all the Twitter scolds after her?
I don’t read every tweet she posts but she’s always seemed to be pretty on-target politically.
re: #89 Belafon
Here’s why things are different now: why didn’t AOC run in 2016? Why didn’t MJ Hegar run in 2016? Why didn’t all those amazing people run 2 years earlier? The answer is that people were comfortable. Too many people thought that things were going to be ok. Now people realize they have to step up.
We often speak the same language. I get why it’s easy to be cynical but I have seen both as a voter and canvasser how working the local level can turn tides and I know you have too even though y’all unfortunately did re-elect Cruz but you also sent several Dems to Congress and all of them voted to impeach Trump yesterday.
re: #92 Charles Johnson
I don’t read every tweet she posts but she’s always seemed to be pretty on-target politically.
This would appear to be the source of the blaze:
Dress however you please.
Call yourself whatever you like.
Sleep with any consenting adult who’ll have you.
Live your best life in peace and security.
But force women out of their jobs for stating that sex is real? #IStandWithMaya #ThisIsNotADrill— J.K. Rowling (@jk_rowling) December 19, 2019
re: #88 Florida Panhandler
Bannon’s movement hates democracy and but eager to use it strategically to weaken it long term.
Damn, that sounds so familiar. Can’t quite put my finger on it, though.
Oh, wait, now I remember…..
re: #86 Charles Johnson
Welp. What did JK Rowling do that has all the Twitter scolds after her?
Defending Maya Forstater, an author, tax expert, and researcher who was recently fired for tweeting that people cannot biologically change their sex.
Dress however you please.
Call yourself whatever you like.
Sleep with any consenting adult who’ll have you.
Live your best life in peace and security.
But force women out of their jobs for stating that sex is real? #IStandWithMaya #ThisIsNotADrill— J.K. Rowling (@jk_rowling) December 19, 2019
re: #94 Targetpractice
This would appear to be the source of the blaze:
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Yes — it appears to be her support of a researcher who is considered anti-trans.
re: #91 Targetpractice
Given the fan base that exists around her works, probably did another retroactive edit that totally upends years of canon.
I don’t know the background:
In fact, the World Health Organization—among countless other medical authorities—validate trans people in their authentic gender identity.
It is quite clear you don’t understand the first thing about the trans community or the science at play.
This is heartbreaking.— Charlotte Clymer🏳️🌈 (@cmclymer) December 19, 2019
re: #72 Teddy’s Person
I hate this framing. It wasn’t casting. People fucking stepped up to stop the monster you helped unleash.
And AOC, in addition to being a bartender, is a double major, international relations/economics, BU cum laude grad.
Oh, I see now, thanks.
She’s not the only liberal who can’t seem to accept trans people, unfortunately.
re: #99 BeachDem
And AOC, in addition to being a bartender, is a double major, international relations/economics, BU cum laude grad.
And she has to deal with people nowhere near as intelligent as her like Candice Owens calling her stupid because she doesn’t worship Capitalism like htey do. I’m more economically moderate than AOC and I wish like hell AOC would see that Bernie is bad news but Capitalism evangelicalists piss me off because they act like the system has no flaws. It definitely does. Every economic system does.
re: #86 Charles Johnson
Welp. What did JK Rowling do that has all the Twitter scolds after her?
Removed all doubt that she is nothing more than a F-ing TERF.
JK Rowling’s phrasing is unnecessarily blunt when you now know it is said with a sneer.
It very much suggests the lowly position she places trans people, and is warped by a pearl-clutching fetishistic idea of trans people, or ‘gone full-Mumsnet’ as it were. pic.twitter.com/aVm8L3qRBZ— Joss Prior. Hypha-sensitive🍄 (@joss_prior) December 19, 2019
re: #86 Charles Johnson
Welp. What did JK Rowling do that has all the Twitter scolds after her?
women talking about sex
in public
re: #100 Charles Johnson
Oh, I see now, thanks.
She’s not the only liberal who can’t seem to accept trans people, unfortunately.
A quick check of Wikipedia (which actually has a page dedicated to her political views, quelle surprise) shows that apparently this has been an on-going thing with her. She’s liked anti-trans tweets in the past, then tried to BS her way out of the controversy by playing the “tech-dumb Boomer” card. But before this tweet, the most she’d done was start following a few anti-trans accounts, which her spokespeople excused as her just following numerous people because she found their tweets “thought-provoking.”
re: #103 Backwoods_Sleuth
That is something proper women should not do. (Psst. We have been doing it for ages.)
Trump Dismisses Trump As A Distraction https://t.co/rvhO7Cqk9g #OurAnnualYear2019 pic.twitter.com/VSdSnKm9mg
— The Onion (@TheOnion) December 19, 2019
re: #80 Sir John Barron
have you told your favorite Trumper to Get Over It today?
Yes. At the gym before I went to work this morning. He came up to me in the locker room and said “they impeached the wrong person, should have nailed that Muslin N-Word”. My reply, “Suck on it, Snowflake!”
re: #108 Joe Bacon 🌹
Yes. At the gym before I went to work this morning. He came up to me in the locker room and said “they impeached the wrong person, should have nailed that Muslin N-Word”. My reply, “Suck on it, Snowflake!”
They’re so comfortable confiding their racism with strangers.
re: #109 HappyWarrior
They’re so comfortable confiding their racism with strangers.
Because strangers are not in a position to cause a disruption in the life of the racist.
At least not as much as friends, family and coworkers would be.
re: #79 HappyWarrior
I’d take that too but seeing them have to see how the other side lives would be nice too.
Agree 100%
re: #100 Charles Johnson
Oh, I see now, thanks.
She’s not the only liberal who can’t seem to accept trans people, unfortunately.
Or she’s referring to the fact that even after transition a person still has the chromosomes of the sex they were born into, and can never have the fully functioning body of the opposite sex.
Until John Varley’s biological vision is realized, anyway.
(I also don’t know the context.)
re: #86 Charles Johnson
She defended transphobia/is transphobic. Really not a good look.
“The president is a counter-puncher.”
For years now, professional journalists have accepted this response to all questions about the president’s sick and disgusting behavior. Try a follow up. Try being aggressive. Try acting like journalists.— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) December 19, 2019
re: #112 A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!
Or she’s referring to the fact that even after transition a person still has the chromosomes of the sex they were born into, and can never have the fully functioning body of the opposite sex.
Until John Varley’s biological vision is realized, anyway.
(I also don’t know the context.)
Short version: sex and gender aren’t quite synonyms. For most people they coincide, but they’re still not the same thing.
re: #114 Patricia Kayden
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re: #114 Patricia Kayden
Trump gets impeached, loses his shit and attacks a beloved Congressman who recently passed away. Entirely normal.
Makes Trump feel better because his target can’t hit back.— lawhawk (@lawhawk) December 19, 2019
re: #114 Patricia Kayden
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It’s never going to happen until the day after he leaves office, whether voluntarily or otherwise. The corporate media runs on “access” and their cardinal rule is to never jeopardize that “access.” Which has left the media acting not as finders of facts, but as stenographers who simply repeat what they’re told without anything resembling critical thought.
He earned it pic.twitter.com/lzzUoh0P9R
— Acyn Torabi (@Acyn) December 19, 2019
re: #118 lawhawk
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Remind me about “counterpunching” the next time the WH complains that someone mentions Barron Trump. Trump likes using his son to mock his opponents.
re: #118 lawhawk
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“I am sorry that Debbie [Dingell] is going through this, and I’m even more sorry…that we have a pathetic, lame excuse, inhumane President,” @ananavarro says about President Trump implying that the late Rep. John Dingell is “looking up” from hell. https://t.co/0olAaDaRT8 pic.twitter.com/fpydNJy5qg
— CNN Newsroom (@CNNnewsroom) December 19, 2019
re: #119 Targetpractice
It’s never going to happen until the day after he leaves office, whether voluntarily or otherwise. The corporate media runs on “access” and their cardinal rule is to never jeopardize that “access.” Which has left the media acting not as finders of facts, but as stenographers who simply repeat what they’re told without anything resembling critical thought.
The mainstream media in a lot of ways unfortunately has become similiar to the same media that helped push Trump in the early stages.
re: #122 Backwoods_Sleuth
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It’s her first Christmas without him and as someone is losing a loved one during this time, Trump’s complete lack of empathy for anyone who isn’t him or in his circle or benefiting him is sickening. Great role model you got there Evangelicals. They want to know why young people don’t want to go to their churches? Maybe because they’re led by frauds who talk about morality and then use the pulpit to promote scum like Trump as being men of God.
re: #92 Charles Johnson
I don’t read every tweet she posts but she’s always seemed to be pretty on-target politically.
She outed herself as opposed to the existence of transgender persons.
re: #115 sagehen
Short version: sex and gender aren’t quite synonyms. For most people they coincide, but they’re still not the same thing.
Slightly longer version: some people just don’t get that transvestites and transgender folks aren’t the same thing. Explaining it to them isn’t simple, but attacking them will just cause them to double down (remember JustAnotherHuman?)
re: #121 HappyWarrior
Remind me about “counterpunching” the next time the WH complains that someone mentions Barron Trump. Trump likes using his son to mock his opponents.
Or “deplorable.”
Disinformation is not the same as misinformation. It relies on “just asking questions” and raising doubts, not offering an ironclad claim for the veracity of one’s position. It’s exactly what Trump/Rudy are doing with “Ukraine meddling & Biden.” They’re “just asking questions.”
— Seth Cotlar (@SethCotlar) December 19, 2019
re: #123 HappyWarrior
The mainstream media in a lot of ways unfortunately has become similiar to the same media that helped push Trump in the early stages.
“Has become”??
It IS the same, and always has been.
re: #123 HappyWarrior
The mainstream media in a lot of ways unfortunately has become similiar to the same media that helped push Trump in the early stages.
I really advise against assuming that any major media company/network/etc that Donny has a beef with because of less-than-glowing coverage means that they’re not invested in his presidency. Even adversarial coverage of him equals views, so there’s money to be made as the “loyal opposition” as there is his personal toe rags.
re: #127 sagehen
Or “deplorable.”
It’s typical bully behavior. Dish it out but can’t take it. Melania’s fake anti bullying campaign has never looked more shallow.
Van Drew is at the WH to switch parties to the GOP.
But before he switches, does the GOP realize that they’ve made all the House bills passed with his approval bipartisan?
Party-switching #NJ02 GOP Rep. Jeff Van Drew, who voted to restore the Voting Rights Act & ban gerrymandering via HR 1, is still signed on as a co-sponsor of the #DCstatehood bill, so does that make all of those bills bipartisan now? 🙃
— Stephen Wolf (@PoliticsWolf) December 19, 2019
Van Drew is still going to be an asterisk in the whole impeachment saga, because he’s going to be a one-term wonder because he was going to be primaried by the Democrats - that’s why he switched.
re: #133 lawhawk
Van Drew is at the WH to switch parties to the GOP.
But before he switches, does the GOP realize that they’ve made all the House bills passed with his approval bipartisan?
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Van Drew is still going to be an asterisk in the whole impeachment saga, because he’s going to be a one-term wonder because he was going to be primaried by the Democrats - that’s why he switched.
Oops.
Starting or using your own “Stand With” hashtag is just pathetic. https://t.co/rWPuw4v1iD
— The Rude Pundit (@rudepundit) December 19, 2019
re: #133 lawhawk
Van Drew is at the WH to switch parties to the GOP.
But before he switches, does the GOP realize that they’ve made all the House bills passed with his approval bipartisan?
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Van Drew is still going to be an asterisk in the whole impeachment saga, because he’s going to be a one-term wonder because he was going to be primaried by the Democrats - that’s why he switched.
See also…
Strong stance from a House Republican. https://t.co/xHbxNLpH8g
— Matt Ford (@fordm) December 19, 2019
re: #130 Targetpractice
I really advise against assuming that any major media company/network/etc that Donny has a beef with because of less-than-glowing coverage means that they’re not invested in his presidency. Even adversarial coverage of him equals views, so there’s money to be made as the “loyal opposition” as there is his personal toe rags.
Heh.
Reminds me of the old story: I read it in a book by Luigi Barzini, and it was said to be a quote from King Victor Emmanuel III, though I think its origin is elsewhere/older.
The King had just finished making a speech from his balcony to the assembled masses, and an aide congratulated him:
“Excellent speech, Your Majesty! Just listen to that crowd!”
The King’s response:
“Bah! Just as many people would turn out to see me executed. And they’d all cheer just as loudly.”
re: #3 HappyWarrior
Wanted to thank everyone from downstairs for the kind words. My family and I greatly appreciate it.
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re: #133 lawhawk
Van Drew is still going to be an asterisk in the whole impeachment saga, because he’s going to be a one-term wonder because he was going to be primaried by the Democrats - that’s why he switched.
And Republicans won’t vote for him because democrat cooties.
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Please be as fantastic as Inception!
Please be as fantastic as Inception!
Please be as fantastic as Inception! https://t.co/2VxHorWUOv— David Leavitt (@David_Leavitt) December 19, 2019
re: #135 The Pie Overlord!
Your present vote is cowardice.
As POTUS you have to make the tough decision and stand by it.
Present is what those who refuse to make a decision do because of the political price they make for choosing.
For that, you should drop out.
For that and being an Assad apologist.— lawhawk (@lawhawk) December 19, 2019
re: #141 lawhawk
My ‘present’ vote was an active protest against the zero-sum game the two opposing political sides have trapped America in. My vote and campaign is about freeing our country from this damaging mindset so we can work side-by-side to usher in a bright future for all
Way to stand for nothing, Tulsi.
A present vote was a vote for trump.
re: #141 lawhawk
so, you want to “work along side” those who would invite demand foreign interference in our elections, use foreign policy and foreign governments to smear political opponents? That’s who you want to “work along side”?
re: #142 Sir John Barron
Way to stand for nothing, Tulsi.
That people think she’s anti war is the biggest joke of all. She attacked Obama from the right on this but dumbass purer than thou think she’s a dove since she backed Bernie over Clinton. Nope.
re: #133 lawhawk
Van Drew is at the WH to switch parties to the GOP.
But before he switches, does the GOP realize that they’ve made all the House bills passed with his approval bipartisan?
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Van Drew is still going to be an asterisk in the whole impeachment saga, because he’s going to be a one-term wonder because he was going to be primaried by the Democrats - that’s why he switched.
The “bipartisan” impeachment of Bill Clinton included five Dem votes in favor of the AoIs. 3 of those Dems ultimately changed their party affiliations to Republican. All ended up driven out of Congress, with two of those who changed parties getting defeated by Teapublicans. Van Drew’s future is to be a punchline at parties and an obscure answer to political junkie trivia.
re: #135 The Pie Overlord!
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I’m so old, I remember when the media tore apart a young Senator from Illinois for his “present” votes on major legislation…
You know all that crap about “Trump district Dems” ignores something. They were Obama districts long before that and they’ve also been won by Dems running for governor or senator too.
Just found a sniveling homophobic MAGAat brimming with internalized misogyny to boot - report and block:
Congrats on raising a little pussy boy
— Beach Life is Better 🏖 🇺🇸 (@BeachlifeisB) December 19, 2019
(that comment of hers is rich given she worships the ultimate whiny little bitch, trump)
re: #148 Targetpractice
I’m so old, I remember when the media tore apart a young Senator from Illinois for his “present” votes on major legislation…
On matters a lot more complicated than this too but Tulsi is cool! She surfs!
re: #150 Interesting Times
Just found a sniveling homophobic MAGAat brimming with internalized misogyny to boot - report and block:
(that comment of hers is rich given she worships the ultimate whiny little bitch, trump)
I will always be amused by Trump supporters thinking that Trump is this bad ass. He’s Cartman after Wendy beat him up.
re: #114 Patricia Kayden
well you really must recognize the punches Dingell is throwing from the grave.
//
Jesus. I almost waded into the Rowling can of worms! As a cis, hetero, white guy, I’m pretty sure I’m the last one to offer an opinion.
John Dingell will be smacking down Trump from beyond the grave if Michigan Democrats were smart to cut ads with his tweets attacking Trump’s criminality and the outcome of the impeachment vote showing Trump becoming only the 3d to be impeached and first to be impeached in his first elected term.
re: #156 A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!
FTFY
“Am I chasing this guy?”
*BANG! BANG!*
“No, he’s chasing me.”
It’s sad that I can actually say that Van Drew seems less of a weasel than Tulsi Gabbard does, because he’s been opposed to impeachment since the beginning and voted as such yesterday. Meanwhile, Tulsi is trying to BS that she was for impeachment before she was against it.
Good question. Anyone know what the 661 signifies?
Why 661? Is that code for something? https://t.co/hguGxH8ozR
— Dirk Schwenk (Esq, gddmit) (@DirkSchwenk) December 19, 2019
re: #159 Targetpractice
It’s sad that I can actually say that Van Drew seems less of a weasel than Tulsi Gabbard does, because he’s been opposed to impeachment since the beginning and voted as such yesterday. Meanwhile, Tulsi is trying to BS that she was for impeachment before she was against it.
Same thing with Peterson. Don’t know much about him though. I know he’s not a freshman because I’ve seen the name before but I’ve never seen him speak or anything like that. He’s probably been around I imagine and isn’t someone who uses media to communicate unless it’s for the basics like constituent services.
In this instance, Impeachment is you and ya homegirls having all the evidence that ya man is cheating but to break up with him you gotta convince a jury of his frat brothers (who was there with him cheating) that your man is a cheater https://t.co/DPL0TFDwJ8
— Roy Wood Jr- Ex Jedi (@roywoodjr) December 19, 2019
They’re really getting desperate here.
Scoop: Lawyers close to Trump are exploring whether Pelosi’s decision to temporarily withhold articles of impeachment from the Senate could mean that the president hasn’t actually been impeached.
The case is largely rhetorical, but could provide WH and Senate Republicans leverage— Jennifer Jacobs (@JenniferJJacobs) December 19, 2019
They’re going to try denying what happened yesterday altogether?
Good luck with that.
re: #160 makeitstop
Good question. Anyone know what the 661 signifies?
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Angel Number 661 Meaning The message, encoded in number 661 relates to the field of work and personal development and says that The time has come for your professional growth. Most likely, you will be offered either a new position or a new, well-payed job.
The thing about Tulsi is she acts like she’s this person of principle but she really proved she wasn’t yesterday. This is definitely an issue that people are going to want a definitive stance on. There are definitely issues that don’t have a simple yes or no answer when it comes to a vote. This wasn’t one of them. And voters aren’t going to respond to her attempt to act like it wasn’t a binary choice. This along with HRC calling her out is probably going to hurt her ability to try to play spoiler if that’s part of her end game plus how much negative attention back home she’s gotten for being an obvious grandstander.
re: #164 makeitstop
They’re really getting desperate here.
They’re going to try denying what happened yesterday altogether?
Good luck with that.
Imagine if that came from the Clinton WH twenty years ago. We would have thought it absurd. Even those of us like me who were only 12 at the time.
I love how Republicans keep ranting about “the Russia hoax” even as it comes out that Rudy Giuliani’s bagman Lev Parnas was funneling large sums of Russian cash to the Republican Party, all over the country.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 19, 2019
re: #160 makeitstop
Good question. Anyone know what the 661 signifies?
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Because “666” would be too obvious??
And SRLY, one of their shells was actually call “LOAN CRIME INV[estment?] GROUP?
She speaks for me.
.@SpeakerPelosi: “Frankly, I don’t care what the Republicans say.”
Full video here: https://t.co/7Iw5isKi7p pic.twitter.com/GxDW0M66pH— CSPAN (@cspan) December 19, 2019
re: #164 makeitstop
They’re really getting desperate here.
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They’re going to try denying what happened yesterday altogether?
Good luck with that.
Well, they’ve been in total denial of reality for the longest time now, why change course now?
re: #170 Jay C
Because “666” would be too obvious??
And SRLY, one of their shells was actually call “LOAN CRIME INV[estment?] GROUP?
Nearly as good as ‘Fraud Guarantee.’
He’s living in an alternate reality.
Q: “What does it feel like to be the third president in U.S. history to be impeached?”
President Trump: “I don’t feel like I’m being impeached because it’s a hoax. It’s a setup. It’s a horrible thing they did.” pic.twitter.com/P3LYqJjPFb— CSPAN (@cspan) December 19, 2019
re: #173 makeitstop
Nearly as good as ‘Fraud Guarantee.’
Guess I should rethink my “WE RIP YOU OFF” used car dealership
re: #153 HappyWarrior
I will always be amused by Trump supporters thinking that Trump is this bad ass. He’s Cartman after Wendy beat him up.
I just wish he’d pull the Cartman that says “Screw you guys, I’m going home.” And then does so.
re: #174 Patricia Kayden
He’s living in an alternate reality.
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Van Pew still wearing a klan rally in his breast pocket (nod to Charlie Pierce).
re: #174 Patricia Kayden
He’s living in an alternate reality.
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It’s the only way he can avoid screaming fits and frothing at the mouth, by maintaining this mantra that it’s a “hoax” and thus it doesn’t really count.
re: #175 Eventual Carrion
Guess I should rethink my “WE RIP YOU OFF” used car dealership
Why?
Lev Parnas can probably get you a startup loan.
re: #169 Charles Johnson
I hope I’m not off here but I really see this whole thing as an extension of the original Russian interference-collusion. Obviously, they went after this since its entirety has been under his presidency along with the testimony by people like Colonel Vindman, Secretary Kent, Ambassadors Taylor/Yovanovitch, and his and Mulvaney’s own public behavior about it. This whole thing reeks of Trump again undermining our policies and credibility for the benefit of Putin’s agenda. Putin definitely wants unrest in Ukraine so Russia can try to sweep in and act like democracy had failed there and they needed like Crimea to be brought under Russian rule. I really think that’s the end game here by the Kremlin.
Trump has confirmed more judges rated unqualified by the ABA than any other President. You have to work hard to get that rating - things like never tried a case or thinking it’s ok to inject your bias in court proceedings. Learn more: https://t.co/eEPzLAQZO0
— Joyce Alene (@JoyceWhiteVance) December 19, 2019
re: #174 Patricia Kayden
He’s living in an alternate reality.
Fact: This man got more people to vote for his impeachment than anyone in history. We know how much he loves records.
re: #179 Jay C
Why?
Lev Parnas can probably get you a startup loan.
I don’t have any info on Biden collateral
re: #182 HappyWarrior
Fact: This man got more people to vote for his impeachment than anyone in history. We know how much he loves records.
Other facts:
First president to be impeached in first term after being elected to WH.
First president to be unindicted coconspirator in federal felonies.
First president to have surrounded himself with so many undeclared foreign agents as part of admin and campaign.
First president to have two campaign managers go to prison.
First president to have his first NSA convicted of federal felonies.
It’s also the first time he didn’t inherit something - he earned this impeachment.
Via mediate: Jim Jordan’s using lunatic Laura Loomer’s mailing list for raising campaign funds.
As the article notes (and we’re well aware of) - Loomer’s been booted from multiple social media platforms and even Uber because of her racist and bigoted positions.
re: #184 lawhawk
Other facts:
First president to be impeached in first term after being elected to WH.
First president to be unindicted coconspirator in federal felonies.
First president to have surrounded himself with so many undeclared foreign agents as part of admin and campaign.
First president to have two campaign managers go to prison.
First president to have his first NSA convicted of federal felonies.It’s also the first time he didn’t inherit something - he earned this impeachment.
The indictments are amazing. And yet his supporters still shout lock her up as they support a president whose administration is run like a crime syndicate.
re: #186 HappyWarrior
Yes. That is what Michael Cohen said months ago. DT is like a mob boss and that is how he is running the country.
re: #185 lawhawk
Via mediate: Jim Jordan’s using lunatic Laura Loomer’s mailing list for raising campaign funds.
As the article notes (and we’re well aware of) - Loomer’s been booted from multiple social media platforms and even Uber because of her racist and bigoted positions.
I hope he needs to raise funds because his internals are shot to hell but my bet is he’s trying to parlay this into something bigger. If Trump can be nominated for President. Why not Jim Jordan? That’s one of the mysteries here. Who ultimately replaces Trump as the GOP standard bearer. I know we joke about Javanka but they don’t speak the reactionary language. I can see someone in the family like Don Jr being able to con the rubes the way the old man does though.
re: #184 lawhawk
Other facts:
First president to be impeached in first term after being elected to WH.
First president to be unindicted coconspirator in federal felonies.
First president to have surrounded himself with so many undeclared foreign agents as part of admin and campaign.
First president to have two campaign managers go to prison.
First president to have his first NSA convicted of federal felonies.It’s also the first time he didn’t inherit something - he earned this impeachment.
I saw a meme last night that said he was the first WWE Hall of Fame inductee to be impeached. Now that’s a first!
re: #187 PhillyPretzel
Yes. That is what Michael Cohen said months ago. DT is like a mob boss and that is how he is running the country.
And Cohen would definitely know what mob bosses are like. They may not be the famous names of old that captured public attention but they’re still around and Cohen as a Trump attorney knows how those guys operate. Hell so does Trump himself. His mob ties had to be the most under reported story of the last election.
re: #174 Patricia Kayden
His body language and microexpressions betray him. He’s deeply upset.
re: #182 HappyWarrior
Heh! He certainly has that over President Obama.
re: #184 lawhawk
First president to be unindicted coconspirator in federal felonies.
I believe Nixon was the first in that category.
re: #177 Barefoot Grin
Van Pew still wearing a klan rally in his breast pocket (nod toCharlie Pierce).
I’m a subscriber to Charlie Pierce’s Esquire politics blog, and for the last few days, no page on the Esquire site will load for me. Safari on Mac. Does anyone have an idea that might help me?
Scoop: Lawyers close to Trump are exploring whether Pelosi’s decision to temporarily withhold articles of impeachment from the Senate could mean that the president hasn’t actually been impeached.
The case is largely rhetorical, but could provide WH and Senate Republicans leverage— Jennifer Jacobs (@JenniferJJacobs) December 19, 2019
The effort his sycophants expend propping up Trump’s ego must be exhausting.
re: #174 Patricia Kayden
He’s living in an alternate reality.
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“What does it feel like to be the third president in U.S. history to be HAVE BEEN impeached?”
re: #191 Dr Lizardo
His body language and microexpressions betray him. He’s deeply upset.
He’s pretty easy to read. I forget who said it but when he doesn’t have the narrative, he’s inflicted the most self damage. He’s been impeached. That’s something he can’t spin. He can complain about it all he wants but it’s there. And I think this is why Pelosi was smart too be cautious on impeaching Bush too. I definitely agree with what KG said the other day about more presidents who should have been impeached but unfortunately the modern media circus doesn’t explain the civic importance of why we have these procedures. This provision exists for a reason. Our founders were people who weren’t too far removed from the English Civil War and a King who thought he could tell Parliament off and that experience definitely influenced the writers they read along with the Frenchmen that had experienced Louis and his sun monarchy. The age of absolutism wasn’t that far from our Founders minds. We have to remember that.
re: #198 HappyWarrior
Absolutely. Avoiding some manner of despotism was first and foremost in their minds.
re: #196 Teddy’s Person
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Scoop: Lawyers close to Trump are exploring whether Pelosi’s decision to temporarily withhold articles of impeachment from the Senate could mean that the president hasn’t actually been impeached.
Oh, Jennifer—that’s not a scoop—it’s a giant dozer full of bullshit.
re: #193 Patricia Kayden
Heh! He certainly has that over President Obama.
I can just hear Obama saying in a calm voice, “You can call me 0 there.” That’s what I aside from the ideology I miss most about Obama. He could laugh at himself. He knew he had a serious job as our President but he wasn’t afraid to let loose and laugh at himself. Making a cameo on Key and Peele’s Luther the Anger Translator really showed that he has a good sense of humor. Doesn’t surprise me of course knowing that the man when he honored Mel Brooks brought up sneaking into Blazing Saddles as a teenager. That’s why it amuses me that people associate Obama with this idea that the left went uptight PC. Obama has a great sense of humor. It’s just that the right’s sense of humor sucks.
Adam Schiff is coming after Mike Pence next. pic.twitter.com/9LZJKVSDK3
— Sarah Reese Jones (@PoliticusSarah) December 19, 2019
It’s about Pence’s knowledge of the call, Jennifer Williams testimony and Pence classifying shit to hid what he knew and when he knew it.
re: #199 Dr Lizardo
Absolutely. Avoiding some manner of despotism was first and foremost in their minds.
Best thing Washington did IMO was refuse to be crowned King.
re: #203 Teddy’s Person
It’s about Pence’s knowledge of the call, Jennifer Williams testimony and Pence classifying shit to hid what he knew and when he knew it.
This isn’t over by a long shot.
re: #205 HappyWarrior
This isn’t over by a long shot.
I want to see them all frog marched out of the White House.
During Tuesday’s hearing, SDNY prosecutor Donaleski said that Lev Parnas’ wife Svetlana signed an agreement on Sept. 9 this year to buy a house for $4.5 million cash, putting $200,000 down that month with money they got from Firtash’s lawyer.
Scheduled closing date was Oct. 4.— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) December 19, 2019
re: #206 Teddy’s Person
You, me and quite a few others. It would make one of the best holiday gifts ever.
re: #208 PhillyPretzel
You, me and quite a few others. It would make one of the best holiday gifts ever.
‘tis the season and all
re: #188 HappyWarrior
I hope he needs to raise funds because his internals are shot to hell but my bet is he’s trying to parlay this into something bigger. If Trump can be nominated for President. Why not Jim Jordan? That’s one of the mysteries here. Who ultimately replaces Trump as the GOP standard bearer. I know we joke about Javanka but they don’t speak the reactionary language. I can see someone in the family like Don Jr being able to con the rubes the way the old man does though.
He seems to be trying to lay the ground work for it.
look at these absolute units
pic.twitter.com/PqHu7La1s4— Marcel Dirsus (@marceldirsus) December 19, 2019
They’re going to need a bigger boat.
If you doubted the seriousness of Republican efforts to rig the game, look at PA.
The state supreme court struck down insanely gerrymandered maps.
GOP lawmakers tried to impeach the justices.
They failed. So now they’re literally trying to gerrymander the court itself. https://t.co/KYCZmy0WMv— Jesse Wegman (@jessewegman) December 19, 2019
re: #196 Teddy’s Person
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The meth helps
I’m surprised they haven’t trotted Ivanka out to put a pretty millennial face on Trump’s current situation. Isn’t there some women in business thing she could attend (conveniently in some country where she wants to conduct business of course) to draw attention away from dear old dad. Not even a tweet from pops touting all the jobs she’s magically created out of thin air.
re: #210 Eventual Carrion
He seems to be trying to lay the ground work for it.
You know if you ask me four years ago if a guy like that could be nominated, I’d say no way but now? He might get nominated simply because he’s one of Trump’s longest defenders. I have no idea what Jim Jordan really believes.
re: #203 Teddy’s Person
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It’s about Pence’s knowledge of the call, Jennifer Williams testimony and Pence classifying shit to hid what he knew and when he knew it.
Oh sweet Flying Spaghetti Monster if Pence gets impeached that would be the Parmigiana Reggiano on the pasta!
re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth
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They always do shit like this. They always try out their most outrageous stunts on the state level first.
re: #215 HappyWarrior
You know if you ask me four years ago if a guy like that could be nominated, I’d say no way but now? He might get nominated simply because he’s one of Trump’s longest defenders. I have no idea what Jim Jordan really believes.
From what I can tell, Jim Jordan believes in what ever will keep Jim Jordan in money and power.
re: #203 Teddy’s Person
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It’s about Pence’s knowledge of the call, Jennifer Williams testimony and Pence classifying shit to hid what he knew and when he knew it.
Yes, there is still so much more to investigate.
re: #219 Teddy’s Person
From what I can tell, Jim Jordan believes in what ever will keep Jim Jordan in money and power.
Perfect heir to Trump.
One big problem with the electoral college is that California doesn’t doesn’t get as much representation as Vladimir Putin.https://t.co/VDbYq7YVvl
— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) December 19, 2019
re: #210 Eventual Carrion
He seems to be trying to lay the ground work for it.
Definitely. And too many Trump supporters would be absolutely delighted to vote for his son. Think about the Bush precedent — Bush elected in 1988 and then his son in 2000 — and his other son tried for 2016. This possibility is chilling. Don Jr has no qualifications for the office — but then his father doesn’t either and the EC granted him a victory. But again, Trump received 63 million votes and many(most? almost all?) of these will transfer their loyalty to his son.
re: #224 Hecuba’s daughter
Definitely. And too many Trump supporters would be absolutely delighted to vote for his son. Think about the Bush precedent — Bush elected in 1988 and then his son in 2000 — and his other son tried for 2016. This possibility is chilling. Don Jr has no qualifications for the office — but then his father doesn’t either and the EC granted him a victory. But again, Trump received 63 million votes and many(most? almost all?) of these will transfer their loyalty to his son.
Maybe this is wishful thinking on my part, but I don’t see the magic Trump dust being that fungible. Junior got booed off the stage by an alt-right audience during his book tour.
How sad and disgusting this is. Such men will never lead a thriving GOP or America. https://t.co/ldOZAMzddf
— Evan McMullin (@EvanMcMullin) December 19, 2019
Turds all the way down.
re: #211 Dread Pirate
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Or a killer whale or two.
re: #224 Hecuba’s daughter
That’s why I see it as highly important that the GOP is dealt a crushing defeat next year. That will A): serve to dispirit Trump voters and B): if it’s a big enough fiasco for the Republican Party, it’ll deter their leadership from even considering anyone with the last name of “Trump” from appearing on the ballot as one of their candidates until the heat death of the universe.
re: #227 Dread Pirate
How sad and disgusting this is. Such men will never lead a thriving GOP or America.
They prefer people who don’t get captured because they got a doctor to write them a note about bone spurs…
re: #227 Dread Pirate
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Turds all the way down.
But, you know, Dems destroyed civility.
re: #227 Dread Pirate
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Turds all the way down.
Here’s some merch from Pukita
Fuck yeah, proud to be in a cult.
re: #227 Dread Pirate
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Turds all the way down.
Says a guy who is part the crowd that gets enraged by Happy Holidays.
re: #232 Teddy’s Person
I wonder if they’ll try to preserve his body to worship when the time comes.
re: #235 jaunte
I wonder if they’ll try to preserve his body to worship when the time comes.
It will need minimal embalming.
Brisk business in future Trump relics to keep the scam going.
“I have his little finger!”
Times five hundred.
re: #235 jaunte
I wonder if they’ll try to preserve his body to worship when the time comes.
Putin will suggest it to him and then he’ll say “Lots of people are saying my body should be permanently be displayed in the White House.”
What do political cultists do once the Leader is gone?
re: #239 jaunte
What do political cultists do once the Leader is gone?
Search for the next anointed one
re: #239 jaunte
What do political cultists do once the Leader is gone?
Find a new one. A lot of Trumpists used to be Reaganists.
re: #235 jaunte
I wonder if they’ll try to preserve his body to worship when the time comes.
Heh, maybe they’ll do to Trump’s bloated carcass what they did to Lenin - stuffed and kept on permanent display.
And frankly, even though Lenin was a brutal and horrific autocrat, what the Bolsheviks did was appallingly disrespectful. Lenin explicitly stated he wished to be buried with his family. Instead, he was turned into some morbid relic, a secular God King put on public display for quasi-religious veneration like the saints of old.
This picture taken yesterday in the House of Representatives has stuck with me all night. It’s the #Republican Caucus sitting on the floor during the #IMPEACHMENTVOTE a picture is worth a thousand words. This is the 2019 party of Lincoln: White. Male. Hopping mad! pic.twitter.com/DVvpVXD7tj
— Sophia A. Nelson (@IAmSophiaNelson) December 19, 2019
re: #242 Dr Lizardo
Just the example I was thinking of. Stuffed and on display in a glass case.
re: #242 Dr Lizardo
Heh, maybe they’ll do to Trump’s bloated carcass what they did to Lenin - stuffed and kept on permanent display.
And frankly, even though Lenin was a brutal and horrific autocrat, what the Bolsheviks did was appallingly disrespectful. Lenin explicitly stated he wished to be buried with his family. Instead, he was turned into some morbid relic, a secular God King put on public display for quasi-religious veneration like the saints of old.
I forget but was that Stalin’s brainchild? But yeah it’s a creepy af thing to do.
sigh
A boss sent 26 letters to Matt Bevin to get his Kentucky employees pardoned. And it worked https://t.co/MLxg3XhaGm via @courierjournal
— Deborah Yetter (@d_yetter) December 19, 2019
re: #242 Dr Lizardo
Heh, maybe they’ll do to Trump’s bloated carcass what they did to Lenin - stuffed and kept on permanent display.
gonna need industrial quantities of stuffing material
re: #245 HappyWarrior
I forget but was that Stalin’s brainchild? But yeah it’s a creepy af thing to do.
Yeah, IIRC, Stalin was behind it. And let’s remember, initially, they were gonna do the same to Stalin when he died. But after he fell from favor, he was quietly interred.
So let me get this straight. After basically announcing that they aren’t going to hold a real trial and bring this to a quick end to protect POTUS, Senate Republicans are complaining that @SpeakerPelosi is playing hardball with the upper chamber?
— Julian Zelizer (@julianzelizer) December 19, 2019
Least shocking quote of the year: POTUS believes a lie about the Kremlin’s enemy because the Kremlin told him https://t.co/iwkaDVuKB7
— Molly McKew (@MollyMcKew) December 19, 2019
re: #249 Dr Lizardo
Yeah, IIRC, Stalin was behind it. And let’s remember, initially, they were gonna do the same to Stalin when he died. But after he fell from favor, he was quietly interred.
Khrushchev just had to give that secret speech didn’t he? You’ll like this since you’re in the CR but I’m reading Dubceks autobiography now. My belief is Khrushchev was more clever than given credit for. Makes sense since he had few admirers when his legacy was being formulated after his ousting. I know Stalin’s reputation has seen a resurgence in Russia. Wouldn’t surprise me if Brezhnev has too.
re: #248 Backwoods_Sleuth
gonna need industrial quantities of stuffing material
They can save a few bucks and stuff him with Big Macs.
re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Bevin pardoned man for child porn based on 8-page petition that noted support of Bevin https://t.co/mmGUohStEm
— Joe Sonka 😐 (@joesonka) December 19, 2019
Stable genius:
“…Privately, officials tried in vain to convince the president that CrowdStrike was not a Ukrainian company and that it would be impossible for the server to be located there, a former administration official said.
One of the officials who Hill said tried to convince Trump, former homeland security adviser Thomas P. Bossert, publicly pleaded with the White House in September to drop the Ukraine theory, which he called “completely debunked.”
“The DNC server and that conspiracy theory has got to go,” he told ABC News’s “This Week.” “If he continues to focus on that white whale, it’s going to bring him down.”
Bossert pointed to Giuliani, Trump’s personal lawyer, as a persistent source of the server claim. “I am deeply frustrated with what [Giuliani] and the legal team is doing in repeating that debunked theory to the president. It sticks in his mind when he hears it over and over again.”
washingtonpost.com
re: #251 jaunte
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He’s going to be pissed that Mary and Fred were actually putting one hundred dollar bills for his teeth and not the tooth fairy then.
re: #253 Dr Lizardo
They can save a few bucks and stuff him with Big Macs.
or be environmentally minded and recycle port-a-potty contents…
re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth
If you doubted the seriousness of Republican efforts to rig the game, look at PA.
The state supreme court struck down insanely gerrymandered maps.
GOP lawmakers tried to impeach the justices.
They failed. So now they’re literally trying to gerrymander the court itself. https://t.co/KYCZmy0WMv— Jesse Wegman (@jessewegman) December 19, 2019
These depraved, undemocratic tactics show just how desperate the GOP’s core constituency, the hinterland gentry, really is in its panic-stricken effort to stave off demographic disaster, and the loss of privilege that will inevitably result.
re: #237 jaunte
Brisk business in future Trump relics to keep the scam going.
“I have his little finger!”
Times five hundred.
You just don’t want to be the one stuck with the mushroom.
re: #258 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
These depraved, undemocratic tactics show just how desperate the GOP’s core constituency, the hinterland gentry, really is in its panic-stricken effort to stave off demographic disaster, and the loss of privilege that will inevitably result.
I’m not a fan of electing judges to begin with, so this strikes me as incredibly stupid shit.
re: #259 Teddy’s Person
Could be an earlobe. Some shrinkage may occur.
re: #252 HappyWarrior
Khrushchev just had to give that secret speech didn’t he? You’ll like this since you’re in the CR but I’m reading Dubceks autobiography now. My belief is Khrushchev was more clever than given credit for. Makes sense since he had few admirers when his legacy was being formulated after his ousting. I know Stalin’s reputation has seen a resurgence in Russia. Wouldn’t surprise me if Brezhnev has too.
I’ll have to look for that autobiography of Dubček’s. And yes, Khrushchev may have come across as some kind of country bumpkin, but he was no fool. After all, it takes some smarts to have survived all those years in Stalin’s inner circle - and some simple-minded hayseed fresh off the turnip truck would’ve been shot early on in the Purges.
Time to call it a day. Have a good one, Lizards.
I do like this idea. A lot.
House would be wise to delay transmittal of articles to Senate.
But make it a substantive issue for all of history. Hold Congressional hearings on “House remedies when US Senate has violated its special impeachment oath”. Pass a House resolution recording McConnell’s misconduct.— David Jolly (@DavidJollyFL) December 19, 2019
I also wonder if/when some state democratic party in one of these states where Republicans keep trying to gerrymander the everloving fuck out of everything might propose proportional representation.
I’m not sure it’ll work in the US, mostly because we don’t tend to like strong political parties, and how the lists for proportional representation are created are all about party power.
re: #252 HappyWarrior
I know Stalin’s reputation has seen a resurgence in Russia. Wouldn’t surprise me if Brezhnev has too.
I knew a lot of Russians who looked back on the Brezhnev years with nostalgia, things were stodgy but predictable, women could walk the streets late at night unmolested and you did not have to worry about the basics of life.
re: #258 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
These depraved, undemocratic tactics show just how desperate the GOP’s core constituency, the hinterland gentry, really is in its panic-stricken effort to stave off demographic disaster, and the loss of privilege that will inevitably result.
They know their end is coming. They can clearly see it.
And they’re scared shitless.
this is priceless…Van Drew has voted with Trump exactly 10% of the time.
but now they’re falling into each other’s arms. https://t.co/Sfbu6n48Tb— Eric Boehlert (@EricBoehlert) December 19, 2019
re: #265 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))
I knew a lot of Russians who looked back on the Brezhnev years with nostalgia, things were stodgy but predictable, women could walk the streets late at night unmolested and you did not have to worry about the basics of life.
nostalgia is a helluva drug.
re: #267 Backwoods_Sleuth
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— David Corn (@DavidCornDC) December 19, 2019
re: #262 Dr Lizardo
I’ll have to look for that autobiography of Dubček’s. And yes, Khrushchev may have come across as some kind of country bumpkin, but he was no fool. After all, it takes some smarts to have survived all those years in Stalin’s inner circle - and some simple-minded hayseed fresh off the turnip truck would’ve been shot early on in the Purges.
Time to call it a day. Have a good one, Lizards.
My thought exactly and he also saw the importance of the space race. Sputnik, Laika, & Yuri Gagarin were when he was in charge. Dubcek fascinates me because he was actually conceived in Chicago and spent time in the USSR as a young man. It’s interesting but although I believe the Velvet Divorce was a good thing for both countries, Dubcek and Havel who I both admire were opposed to that.
Trump will be saying he never met Van Drew in no time.
Van Drew must not have gotten the memo about Trump’s anti-Midas touch.
Interesting footnote, the last impeachment in the US, the House impeached G. Thomas Porteous, Jr. on March 11, 2010. The Senate trial did not happen until December 7, 2010.
Also, Adam Schiff was a manager in that impeachment trial.
Just saw this. christianitytoday.com
Trump Should Be Removed from Office
It’s time to say what we said 20 years ago when a president’s character was revealed for what it was.
An important moment: Christianity Today, the key evangelical magazine founded by Billy Graham, calls for Trump’s impeachment, describing him as “a near perfect example of a human being who is morally lost and confused.”https://t.co/qdnzUu9Wc1
— Bill McKibben (@billmckibben) December 19, 2019
Last night, House Democrats passed the thinnest, weakest presidential impeachment in American history. Now they’re suggesting they are too afraid to even submit their accusations to the Senate and go to trial. The prosecutors are getting cold feet in front of the entire country.
— Leader McConnell (@senatemajldr) December 19, 2019
I am glad that leading Democrats seem to have buyer’s remorse about the least fair, least thorough, and most rushed impeachment in American history. They should. But for the sake of the country, I wish this understanding had dawned on them yesterday.
— Leader McConnell (@senatemajldr) December 19, 2019
take a fucking seat, mitch
re: #273 KGxvi
Interesting footnote, the last impeachment in the US, the House impeached G. Thomas Porteous, Jr. on March 11, 2010. The Senate trial did not happen until December 7, 2010.
Also, Adam Schiff was a manager in that impeachment trial.
So, about nine months between impeachment and trial; following that model, that’d put us in September 2020 for a Senate trial of Trump.
Perfect timing.
And with that, goodnight.
Get a load of this asshole.
Your husband was a hack.
That doesn’t change because he’s passed.
Grow a thicker skin, I’ve seen you on the MSM lambasting, ridiculing, demeaning, and disrespecting the Office of the President.
Stow the selective outrage.
You don’t get to dictate how we respond to you.— Mark Pukita for U.S. Senate 2022 (R-OH) (@mpukita) December 19, 2019
He’s currently getting ratio’d to hell.
re: #16 Backwoods_Sleuth
MCCONNELL confirms he’s meeting with Schumer this afternoon.
Schumer needs to find some of what Nancy Pelosi has. He is the most invisible Senate Leader since forever & will no doubt come out with a joint statement saying the senate needs to go ahead with the trial ASAP. Way past time the dems got a Senate Leader that actually works for the people.
New Bob Cesca podcast is up.
re: #224 Hecuba’s daughter
Definitely. And too many Trump supporters would be absolutely delighted to vote for his son. Think about the Bush precedent — Bush elected in 1988 and then his son in 2000 — and his other son tried for 2016. This possibility is chilling. Don Jr has no qualifications for the office — but then his father doesn’t either and the EC granted him a victory. But again, Trump received 63 million votes and many(most? almost all?) of these will transfer their loyalty to his son.
True, but at least both Bush sons actually had political experience: they had run for, been elected, and served in statewide office. And made sure they had a good network of connections in the national Party. What does Idiot Junior bring to a campaign? A bunch of halfwitted nasty tweets?
Not there isn’t some number of morons out there that wouldn’t vote for Don The Lesser just on the strength of his name: this is America, after all…
re: #274 dharmamark
“…Let’s grant this to the president: The Democrats have had it out for him from day one, and therefore nearly everything they do is under a cloud of partisan suspicion. This has led many to suspect not only motives but facts in these recent impeachment hearings. And, no, Mr. Trump did not have a serious opportunity to offer his side of the story in the House hearings on impeachment.
Interesting take. Maybe he handicapped himself by blocking all that testimony from witnesses.
Profile says you’re Australian. You don’t get a vote. Fuck off. pic.twitter.com/0iKHdlVZ1o
— Stonekettle (@Stonekettle) December 19, 2019
I seriously hope Jimmy Carter can hang on until Trump and the GOP are out of office. President Carter undoubtedly feels the same way and it may be part of what keeps him going.
“…To the many evangelicals who continue to support Mr. Trump in spite of his blackened moral record, we might say this: Remember who you are and whom you serve. Consider how your justification of Mr. Trump influences your witness to your Lord and Savior. Consider what an unbelieving world will say if you continue to brush off Mr. Trump’s immoral words and behavior in the cause of political expediency. If we don’t reverse course now, will anyone take anything we say about justice and righteousness with any seriousness for decades to come? Can we say with a straight face that abortion is a great evil that cannot be tolerated and, with the same straight face, say that the bent and broken character of our nation’s leader doesn’t really matter in the end?We have reserved judgment on Mr. Trump for years now. Some have criticized us for our reserve. But when it comes to condemning the behavior of another, patient charity must come first.”
Except for women who have sex, that’s right out.
re: #42 makeitstop
Ed Rollins sees President as the “ultimate power”
He sees this president* as the ultimate power. Did anyone ask him if President Obama had the ultimate power? I thought not.
re: #284 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel
I seriously hope Jimmy Carter can hang on until Trump and the GOP are out of office. President Carter undoubtedly feels the same way and it may be part of what keeps him going.
He wasn’t evangelical enough for the evangelicals at the time, and then—gasp—he did a Playboy interview and admitted that he had lusted in his heart for another woman besides Roselyn. Fast forward 40 years and who cares if he’s thrice married, paid off a porn star, had a tabloid catch-and-kill a story about actually sleeping with a Playboy Playmate, admitted to sexual assault on hot mic….
If McConnell and Republicans refuse to have an actual trial and three Republican senators are not brave enough to object, Pelosi could deploy a backup plan … https://t.co/eYi074t4AG
— Jennifer Rubin (@JRubinBlogger) December 19, 2019
Pelosi can wait to transmit the articles, now that impeachment is complete, until such time as the cases involving senior officials wind their way through the courts and reach a final ruling https://t.co/eYi074t4AG
— Jennifer Rubin (@JRubinBlogger) December 19, 2019
re: #3 HappyWarrior
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Another active-shooter day in America
4:11PM - At least a dozen OKC Police vehicles as well as many paramedics have lined up outside of Penn Square Mall. Police are seen carrying rifles in the parking lot. @kfor pic.twitter.com/WQZEXIMd8N
— Aaron Brackett (@Aaron_Brackett) December 19, 2019
re: #159 Targetpractice
It’s sad that I can actually say that Van Drew seems less of a weasel than Tulsi Gabbard does, because he’s been opposed to impeachment since the beginning and voted as such yesterday. Meanwhile, Tulsi is trying to BS that she was for impeachment before she was against it.
Both of them will be gone from the House in a bit over a year.
re: #162 PhillyPretzel
Not surprised one bit.
Easy way for a 3rd party to “verify” that certain contributions are being made on schedule after giving a middle man funds to distribute. instruct that they be made in an odd amount and then quickly scan disclosure reports for that amount.
Listening to Mitch McConnell talk about the decline of bipartisanship is like listening to Jeffrey Dahmer complain about the decline of dinner party etiquette.
— Al Franken (@alfranken) December 19, 2019
Well, that’s it. He can have his crappy car back. And his pencil. https://t.co/PuCfccBaTj
— jason alexander (@IJasonAlexander) December 19, 2019
re: #292 Teddy’s Person
1 shooting victim at Penn Square Mall; shooter still at large, police say
Police said one person at the mall was injured, but they could not confirm if that person was shot. Several witnesses told KOCO 5 that they heard gunshots inside the mall.
Van Drew has been notified via letter that he is no longer a member of the House Democratic Caucus “effective immediately.” pic.twitter.com/WR8atHp2PS
— Katherine Faulders (@KFaulders) December 19, 2019
re: #292 Teddy’s Person
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re: #299 Backwoods_Sleuth
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So he now supports Trump completely. What a fake. Enjoy your career Jeff because your Republican primary challenger won’t forget to remind people you voted for a Democratic Speaker.
So, have the evangelicals at Christianity Today had a “coming to Jesus” moment?
re: #196 Teddy’s Person
All we have to do is laugh in their faces. He’s been impeached. The Constitution says nothing about when the articles have to be sent to the Senate.
— (((IntheNumbers))) (@ItsNumbersMan) December 19, 2019
re: #299 Backwoods_Sleuth
Can they do the same thing to Tulsi?
re: #302 Barefoot Grin
So, have the evangelicals at Christianity Today had a “coming to Jesus” moment?
Well, their call to remove Trump is a bit hollow.
But fundamentalists have already written off CT for being apostates, given CT’s attempts to converse with other faiths.
re: #302 Barefoot Grin
So, have the evangelicals at Christianity Today had a “coming to Jesus” moment?
It looks like, if nothing else, they’re being consistent.
An impeachment vote cannot ever be a referendum on political tactics or strategy or even how you think the country should be governed. It’s a binary decision on whether sufficient evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors are known. Tulsi Gabbard is a coward. https://t.co/X9PJTKh1Y1
— David Simon (@AoDespair) December 19, 2019
re: #304 Belafon
I read somewhere that there is already at least one primary challenger who has filed in her district.
For Deuce fans suffering withdrawal, HBO and Blown Deadline have a political drama coming in March, which is to say another tale of whoredom and pimpery. To be fair, this narrative has more credible characters occupying national office than at present: https://t.co/4lbZnbIT50
— David Simon (@AoDespair) December 19, 2019
re: #308 Jay C
I read somewhere that there is already at least one primary challenger who has filed in her district.
A state senator. Tulsi has more fans that drink vodka than mai tais. From what I’ve seen, people in her district are sick of her. I believe BigPapa is in her district.
re: #309 gocart mozart
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re: #312 The Pie Overlord!
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— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) December 18, 2019
re: #312 The Pie Overlord!
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re: #312 The Pie Overlord!
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Romans 1:25. https://t.co/sRtYpoTN5h
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) December 18, 2019
re: #315 Belafon
I do not know why this was in my timeline, but BWAHAHAHAHA:
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— Soledad O’Brien (@soledadobrien) December 19, 2019
Speaking of my niece. Seeing her tonight. That makes me happy. She’s my card playing buddy and her go to when I want to show her dancing moves are Latina rather than our Euromuttness. But I like explaining things to her. She’s got an intellectual curiosity that reminds me of myself at 5.
Thread.
1/ A note on the Dingell situation.
John Dingell was politically nothing like me, or I him.
We probably didn’t share a single policy issue.
We used to occasionally scrap on Twitter in good fun.— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) December 19, 2019
LOL Kevin McCarthy is out here just totally making stuff up pic.twitter.com/3x0rzRpJ4G
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) December 19, 2019
re: #277 Dr Lizardo
So, about nine months between impeachment and trial; following that model, that’d put us in September 2020 for a Senate trial of Trump.
Perfect timing.
And with that, goodnight.
We’ve seen both short and long delays between impeachment and trial:
Samuel Kent was impeached on June 19, 2009 and his trial started June 24. He resigned on the 30th, but the trial continued into July (not sure why).
Clinton was impeached December 19, 1998 and the trial started on January 7.
Walter Nixon impeached May 10, 1989; trial was November 1-3, and he was convicted and removed from office.
Alcee Hastings was impeached in August 1988, trial wasn’t until mid October and he was convicted as well.
Interestingly, Frank Sensenbrenner has been a House manager in the last four impeachment trials. Looks like that streak is about to be broken.
re: #325 makeitstop
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Trump has no idea how small the Dingell insult made him look. He thinks this makes him look badass but he looks like what he does. A petty ass who told a widow her husband was in hell for voting against him. And he was his extra creepy self with the adjectives he used to describe Rep Dingell as he always does with women. See the “lovely Lisa Page”.
re: #326 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Lindsey Graham: I just left President Trump, he’s mad as hell that they would do this to him and now deny him his day in court pic.twitter.com/gZdbvKtCVe
— Acyn Torabi (@Acyn) December 19, 2019
re: #330 Backwoods_Sleuth
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You’ve impeached a President, Lindsay, stop the fucking gaslighting bullshit for once.
re: #232 Teddy’s Person
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Fuck yeah, proud to be in a cult.
re: #275 jaunte
Apparently Christianity Today’s website briefly crashed as a result of this editorial.
Oh and I thought Trump welcomes impeachment so thanks for letting us know. I’m glad he’s mad because he deserves impeachment and a one way trip to federal prison.
re: #333 mmmirele
Apparently Christianity Today’s website briefly crashed as a result of this editorial.
Should we pray to God to resurrect it?
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First, they came for the socialists, and I didn’t vote.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I hedged my bets.
Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t express an opinion.
Then they came for me, and everyone left yelled, “SHE’S IN THE ATTIC!”
— T.G. https://t.co/3TkGmZKnDV— Mrs. Betty Bowers (@BettyBowers) December 19, 2019
re: #334 HappyWarrior
Oh and I thought Trump welcomes impeachment so thanks for letting us know. I’m glad he’s mad because he deserves impeachment and a one way trip to federal prison.
So, if Paula White and Billy Graham’s prayers, asking for Donnie to not be impeached, went unanswered, can we take that as a sign that he is NOT chosen by god? Asking for the religious skeptics 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
— HarleyDad73 (@HarleyDad731) December 19, 2019
re: #299 Backwoods_Sleuth
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In an earlier comment, I had made an allusion to Bridgegate, suggesting that the Republican attraction to abuse of power it revealed made it appropriate that Van Drew would want to join them. I did that thinking that Bridgegate was a situation everyone would agree was abuse of power. It turns out I was wrong. Last July, the Bridgegate defendants Bridget Anne Kelly and Bill Baroni were actually arguing that their actions were actually ok.
Baroni’s attorneys in their briefs called Bridgegate “a case of bare-knuckle New Jersey politics, not graft.” They said if the government could convict a public official of fraudulently depriving a public agency of money or property simply for employing his agency’s resources “with a concealed political motive,” then the federal government will have free rein to charge and convict officials for all manner of political deals, favors, and rebukes, unless those officials are brutally candid about their true political motivations.
Apparently, there are at least 4 SCOTUS justices who think it’s a plausible claim. The Court has agreed to hear the case. It’s scheduled for Tuesday, Jan. 14 at 10 a.m.
I think the parallels with the current GOP excuses the Ukraine scheme are pretty obvious. And it may be of some moment that the case will be heard around the time that the Senate will be looking at impeachment. It should be possible to link these two similar cases of GOP abuse of power.
re: #338 Backwoods_Sleuth
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I dunno about prayer but if they’re listening to prayers, they have Frank Graham and Jim Baker on do not accept prayers from list because St. Peter got 1000 prayers to impeach Obama during the first day of his presidency grim those two alone.
I’ve already seen the Russian effort on impeachment. They’re spamming apolitical Facebook groups with impeachment stuff. I wonder how many Trump supporters in those groups are aware that this is Vlad’s game.
THREAD!
You’ve heard of elf on a shelf get ready for pup in a cup pic.twitter.com/AOUl7Pby6x
— Oregon Zoo (@OregonZoo) December 19, 2019
— Edwin Mix (@TheEdMix) December 19, 2019
re: #342 Backwoods_Sleuth
A very good cuteness break. :)
I’d just note that you don’t cover yourselves in glory here, CT. Nixon was an awful president and insinuating that those who went after him were sinning is just bad. pic.twitter.com/0X3YrRxsYp
— Dee “I don’t suffer fools gladly” Holmes (@mmmirele) December 19, 2019
re: #343 gocart mozart
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You’re not going to see any prominent conservative evangelical call this out. Meanwhile they howl if you point out their homophobia is hateful.
re: #345 mmmirele
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re: #347 HappyWarrior
Billy Graham I guess was the original both sider even though he was cracking anti Semitic jokes with Nixon. CT was his publication right?
Yep.
Tomorrow morning, 6:36:43 a.m. EST
Amazing day behind the scenes with @NASA, @ulalaunch and #Starliner for #NASASocial!
Let’s do launch! pic.twitter.com/ncmLexaXel— Boeing Space (@BoeingSpace) December 19, 2019
re: #348 mmmirele
Yep.
Yeah. Granted I didn’t grow up with Graham but I’ll quote what I think Joe Bacon has done with Truman but Graham was never my pastor. I think Graham was very sleazy. His son is worse obviously but Billy helped start something that really hurt how we discuss religion in this country.
re: #350 gocart mozart
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I hope Rick has some regrets about his past political life because he’s never gonna be a significant player again in GOP politics.
Wow, the ‘standwithtulsi’ hashtag isn’t having the effect its originators likely wanted it to.
re: #353 Barefoot Grin
Wow, the ‘standwithtulsi’ hashtag isn’t having the effect its originators likely wanted it to.
Vlad is finding out that two tovariches can play the meme game.
Tulsi certainly didn’t gain any new admirers over this. She probably lost some if any.
re: #354 HappyWarrior
Vlad is finding out that two tovariches can play the meme game.
Yeah, I’m not sure twitter is viable anymore. Twitter Dems have strong ju-ju.
re: #356 Barefoot Grin
Yeah, I’m not sure twitter is viable anymore. Twitter Dems have strong ju-ju.
Yeah we’ve gotten more social media savvy since 2016. That’s another advantage Trump isn’t going to have.
re: #218 HappyWarrior
They always do shit like this. They always try out their most outrageous stunts on the state level first.
Some panic at losing control as well. The GOP took a beating in November in two counties just outside of Philadelphia that are considered the most conservative leaning in the area.
re: #358 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
Some panic at losing control as well. The GOP took a beating in November in two counties just outside of Philadelphia that are considered the most conservative leaning in the area.
Oh definitely. The year after Obama won re-election. The Republicans in here tried making the state’s electoral votes proportional by districts. It was too brazen even for Bob McDonnell’s crooked self. I never saw anything resembling that proposed by Democrats in the years the Republicans were winning here in presidential elections.
My experience with Republicans is they try to weaken the power of your suffrage when they know they’re losing. To me the right to vote is the citizen’s ultimate right in our society.
re: #274 dharmamark
Just saw this. christianitytoday.com
Trump Should Be Removed from Office
It’s time to say what we said 20 years ago when a president’s character was revealed for what it was.
Trump’s character was also revealed at least 20 years ago as well.
I don’t understand the WH’s problem with delaying sending the impeachment case to the Senate. Has he not complained all along that he was being denied the opportunity to defend himself and provide witnesses? Now Moscow Mitch is planning to prevent him from doing it one more time. He should thank Nancy for standing up for his rights.
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re: #312 The Pie Overlord!
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re: #361 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
Trump’s character was also revealed at least 20 years ago as well.
40 but who’s counting. It says a lot about the people who portray Trump as moral but attack Mayor Pete for being gay.
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The great USMCA Trade Deal (Mexico & Canada) has been sitting on Nancy Pelosi’s desk for 8 months, she doesn’t even know what it says, & today, after passing by a wide margin in the House, Pelosi tried to take credit for it. Labor will vote for Trump. Trade deal is great for USA!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 19, 2019
So after the Democrats gave me no Due Process in the House, no lawyers, no witnesses, no nothing, they now want to tell the Senate how to run their trial. Actually, they have zero proof of anything, they will never even show up. They want out. I want an immediate trial!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 20, 2019
re: #362 A hollow voice says, Impeachmoot now!
I don’t understand the WH’s problem with delaying sending the impeachment case to the Senate. Has he not complained all along that he was being denied the opportunity to defend himself and provide witnesses? Now Moscow Mitch is planning to prevent him from doing it one more time. He should thank Nancy for standing up for his rights.
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That’s some good snark there. I also feel Moscow Mitch is denying Donnie his day in court by not letting Mulvaney and Bolton exonerate him.
re: #281 Jay C
True, but at least both Bush sons actually had political experience: they had run for, been elected, and served in statewide office. And made sure they had a good network of connections in the national Party. What does Idiot Junior bring to a campaign? A bunch of halfwitted nasty tweets?
Not there isn’t some number of morons out there that wouldn’t vote for Don The Lesser just on the strength of his name: this is America, after all…
I don’t think he has the backing and name recognition to make it through the primaries. I don’t think any of the usual suspects would fear taking him on during a debate or in mortal Tweet combat.
re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth
or be environmentally minded and recycle port-a-potty contents…
He’s lived this far in his life full of it anyway.
re: #302 Barefoot Grin
So, have the evangelicals at Christianity Today had a “coming to Jesus” moment?
They were probably removed in the middle to typing the editorial.
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re: #368 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
I don’t think he has the backing and name recognition to make it through the primaries. I don’t think any of the usual suspects would fear taking him on during a debate or in mortal Tweet combat.
Don Sr definitely benefited from existing celebrity. I expect Trump will try to make a display of who he wants his successor to be and we’ll hear about how he’s a great guy that everyone loves.
re: #308 Jay C
I read somewhere that there is already at least one primary challenger who has filed in her district.
Didn’t Tulsi not even file to run again in that district? I was under the impression that she was already effectively done as a Rep at the end of this Congress.
re: #68 Hecuba’s daughter
You’ve seen the new Star Wars film? Which a reviewer compared to the disastrous last season of GOT? And you disagree with that evaluation?
Saw an advanced screening a few hours ago.
As someone who liked The Last Jedi more than than The Force Awakens, I came in with next to zero expectations and came out surprisingly pleased.
Didn’t see the review you’re referencing, but I don’t find the comparison appropriate.
For one thing, in what should have been an advantage to GOT, the showrunners, directors and writers for the last season were essentially the same ones for the previous season, and were involved in the show from day one. Wasn’t the case with the Sequel trilogy. I sure didn’t leave the theater feeling the same disappointment I felt when the GOT finale concluded.
Is it predictable at times? Sure.
Is it fun? Yes.
Is it a good conclusion to the trilogy? I wanna say yes, but this jury is still out.
Is it on the same level as any of the Original movies? I’d say no.
Is it on the same level as any of the Prequel movies? Meesa gonna say HELL no.
Is it a good Star Wars movie at the end of the day? Yes, yes it is.
Charged with 2nd degree murder and he will probably get off scott free by claiming trans panic (a variation of gay panic) defense.
She will never see her 18th.
Man accused of killing transgender teen girl after ‘hookup meeting’: Police
The 17-year-old was reported missing in June. Her remains were found this month.
And some people wonder why I fear for my and my sisters lives.
re: #312 The Pie Overlord!
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So, um, if anyone who practices kosher or halal happens to be looking for extra validation… o_O
2 federal inspectors warn that U.S. pork will soon be “mystery” meat with feces, sex organs, toenails, bladders & unwanted hair after the Trump admin. rolled back inspection rules for pork. They say they won’t even eat meat processed by their own employer.https://t.co/TXhBQS9Dmd
— Brian Harrison, Ph.D. 🏳️🌈 (@brianfharrison) December 17, 2019
re: #312 The Pie Overlord!
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re: #68 Hecuba’s daughter
No. I have not seen any of the Star Wars movies since Revenge of the Sith. The movie itself was okay but the sticky floors, overflowing trash cans and the constant conversation going on during the movie has kept me out of movie theaters since. That is why I preordered the Downton Abbey movie from amazon. As to Game of Thrones all I know about the series is that Rose Leslie who was Gwen Dawson on the first season of Downton Abbey was in it.
re: #371 HappyWarrior
Don Sr definitely benefited from existing celebrity. I expect Trump will try to make a display of who he wants his successor to be and we’ll hear about how he’s a great guy that everyone loves.
I doubt the Donald has the ability to say nice things about anyone taking power from him. I’ve only seen/hear him praise Ivanka. He’ll give a “he’s a great guy” but you can tell his heart’s not in it.
When you see #TRUMP2020Landside and realize whoever started this can’t spell landslide correctly pic.twitter.com/oZPemFdeVq
— Scott Williams (@jswilliams1962) December 17, 2019
BREAKING: Washington state Rep. Matt Shea participated in domestic terrorism against the United States, an investigation commissioned by the Washington state House found. (via @OlympiaJoe / @davidlgutman)https://t.co/sCxoqrUeaX
— The Seattle Times (@seattletimes) December 19, 2019
still with the airing of grievances
The House Democrats were unable to get even a single vote from the Republicans on their Impeachment Hoax. The Republicans have never been so united! The Dem’s case is so bad that they don’t even want to go to trial!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 20, 2019
re: #380 Dread Pirate
When you see #TRUMP2020Landside and realize whoever started this can’t spell landslide correctly
No, it refers to his strength in the center of the country. #TRUMP2020Seaside is just not happening.
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re: #381 Dread Pirate
Makes you wonder how many of these militia moles are in state legislatures.
re: #372 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
Didn’t Tulsi not even file to run again in that district? I was under the impression that she was already effectively done as a Rep at the end of this Congress.
From your lips to FSM’s orecchiette…….
re: #365 Backwoods_Sleuth
My God, what is this clown? Twelve? “They will never even show up”??
It sounds like something a high-school loudmouth would post after ostentatiously challenging the school brawler to a fight: but deliberately giving the wrong time and place for it: so that Donnie can show up with his pals and strut around bragging about how the “tough guy” wouldn’t fight him…
Here’s a clue, Donnie: the fight IS going to happen; that tough guy IS going to show up sooner or later. And her name is Nancy.
Ah, Tulsi announced back in October that she was not going to run for another term.
Which means she can still walk that back.
re: #296 gocart mozart
He was awesome in “The Deer Hunter” and also “Heat.” Now look at him, sad.
re: #312 The Pie Overlord!
I wish you a very happy birthday, as well as an almost Happy Hanukkah.
re: #312 The Pie Overlord!
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Ah, Tulsi announced back in October that she was not going to run for another term.
Which means she can still walk that back.
I take it as an indicator she’s got even more ratfucking planned to mess with Democrats and knows she wont be able to win again when it’s over.
I’m also 99% sure she has a job waiting for her at Fox.
Edit: Or Russia Today
re: #386 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)
Ah, Tulsi announced back in October that she was not going to run for another term.
Which means she can still walk that back.
Depends on the filing deadline… ah, pity: “Candidate filing for the 2020 Elections runs from February 3, 2020 through June 2, 2020.”
People on disability can return to social media now:
People with disabilities should be able to experience the joys of life without fear of losing their SSDI benefits because of moments they post on social media.
I’m glad @SocialSecurity listened to @SenBobCasey’s and my concerns and put a stop to this invasive proposal. pic.twitter.com/vQlAt8rRLH— Sherrod Brown (@SenSherrodBrown) December 19, 2019
Since we’re talking about all the ways Matt Bevin is classing up the GOP, here’s another fun factoid:
Ex-GOP governor Matt Bevin claims the teenage victim of a rapist he pardoned was lying: ‘Her hymen was intact’https://t.co/VzOHQvtzU7
— Raw Story (@RawStory) December 20, 2019
Guy really can’t start pining for the fjords soon enough.
re: #215 HappyWarrior
You know if you ask me four years ago if a guy like that could be nominated, I’d say no way but now? He might get nominated simply because he’s one of Trump’s longest defenders. I have no idea what Jim Jordan really believes.
Well, we know that he is A-OK with students getting molested.
re: #385 Jay C
From your lips to FSM’s orecchiette…….
My God, what is this clown? Twelve? “They will never even show up”??
It sounds like something a high-school loudmouth would post after ostentatiously challenging the school brawler to a fight: but deliberately giving the wrong time and place for it: so that Donnie can show up with his pals and strut around bragging about how the “tough guy” wouldn’t fight him…
Here’s a clue, Donnie: the fight IS going to happen; that tough guy IS going to show up sooner or later. And her name is Nancy.
And she is going to do to him what Wendy did to Cartman.
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