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1
Belafon  Oct 19, 2020 • 10:55:19am

Get your people to vote.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 19, 2020 • 10:57:00am

Dedicated to Nick Kristoff since he begs for Republicans to be let off the hook.

Duffy - Mercy

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2020 • 10:57:05am

this is happening right now!
a white heron / great egret
it may have nailed one of the small fish - wild kingdom

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:02:40am

a few more before it just took off

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TarHellion  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:03:00am

Regarding the Foxconn con, I work in public-private economic development. In terms of state programs to assist rural communities in attracting new business or help existing ones expand, there are average wage and full-time job maintenance guidelines that must be adhered to. This is to protect both the business and the local government entity from facing clawback provisions.

At the state level, there have been instances where companies have made promises that didn’t pan out, then ducked away. Dell Computer is a classic case here in NC.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:03:01am

Rush Limbaugh Delivers Emotional Update on His Battle With Lung Cancer: ‘The Days Where I Do Not Think I’m Under a Death Sentence Are Over’

Limbaugh said Monday the scans showed the cancer had grown after an initial period of dormancy.

“The scans did show some progression of cancer,” Limbaugh said. “Prior that, the scans had shown that we had rendered the cancer dormant. That’s my phrase for it. We had stopped the growth. It had been reduced, and it had become manageable. But it’s always the reality, and the knowledge, that that can change and it can come back, because it is cancer. It outsmarts pretty much everything you throw at it. And this, of course, this is stage 4 lung cancer.

Good fucking riddance….

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BeachDem  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:03:22am

This made me laugh. In the comments to a WaPo article about books with bad endings:

Comment:

Ray Bradbury’s “The Nine Billion Names of God,” for example, isn’t a happy ending, but it is the logical outcome of the plot and it is unforgettable.

Response:

Especially the part when the author of the story is revealed to have been Arthur C. Clarke.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:03:33am

re: #3 dangerman

this is happening right now!
a white heron / great egret
it may have nailed one of the small fish - wild kingdom

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One stop fine dining at their favorite watering hole?

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Charles Johnson  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:04:15am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:05:41am

Trump is going to talk about nothing but Hunter the entire debate…

and by the end of it millions will be convinced not to vote for Hunter Biden for President

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plansbandc  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:06:53am

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:08:32am
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dangerman  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:09:14am

re: #9 Charles Johnson

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in 5his one case,
they waited for someone else to be first and take the heat, if any

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:12:22am

Here’s a recap of my trip to Vermont with my son (age 24).

The foliage was a little disappointing. Our AirBNB host says that Southern Vermont is experiencing a drought and this causes the trees to not change to the dark reds/oranges that we love. Global warming strikes again, but foliage is always uncertain. Pics below (not in love with the quality, but getting used to camera….).

Vermont is wearing masks. Indoor seating is happening, but less tables. Keene, NH requires mass. I hear that the rest of NH is not as compliant (fuck libertarians).

Rules/laws broken during trip.
1) Speeding
2) purchasing legal weed in MA and bringing it home to NYC.
3) Purchasing knife in NH that is not legal in NYC.
4) Purchasing untaxed alcohol in NH and bringing it back to NYC.
In other words, fantastic trip.

THE TRIP WAS

Keene, NH
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:12:51am
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makeitstop  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:12:53am

Michael Weiner can’t wait to climb over Limbaugh’s corpse.

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Kilroy was here  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:13:18am
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KGxvi  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:14:41am

re: #9 Charles Johnson

They passed on the first run for plausible deniability… but then reported on the reporting. That extra degree of separation was all they needed.

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Jay C  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:15:10am

re: #9 Charles Johnson

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And not to mention the fact that the NY Post is a Murdoch property - maybe not “Fox News” per se; but a print product of the same sleazy “family” of RW hacks. So “passed on the story” is disingenuous bullshit. Like everything else.

Actually, this seems to me to be more of standard British, rather than American practice: leaking/floating some BS “scandal” story in a tabloid rag, then having “serious” TV news pick it up, and, moderately descented, go on to flog the tale in another medium…

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:17:31am

re: #10 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump is going to talk about nothing but Hunter the entire debate…

and by the end of it millions will be convinced not to vote for Hunter Biden for President

This is what Criswell Bacon has been saying. The next debate will be nothing but Trump shitting on Hunter Biden and the CCCP will come down on Trump’s side.

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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:17:58am

re: #14 I Would Prefer Not To

Keene’s a pretty great town. I was in the Finger Lakes last week (hence my limited posting). The foliage was pretty good, but not as spectacular as some years.

Of course, I picked up a couple cases of wine, so I’m good for the winter lockdown.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:18:17am

re: #14 I Would Prefer Not To

Here’s a recap of my trip to Vermont with my son (age 24).

The foliage was a little disappointing. Our AirBNB host says that Southern Vermont is experiencing a drought and this causes the trees to not change to the dark reds/oranges that we love. Global warming strikes again, but foliage is always uncertain. Pics below (not in love with the quality, but getting used to camera….).

Vermont is wearing masks. Indoor seating is happening, but less tables. Keene, NH requires mass. I hear that the rest of NH is not as compliant (fuck libertarians).

Rules/laws broken during trip.
1) Speeding
2) purchasing legal weed in MA and bringing it home to NYC.
3) Purchasing knife in NH that is not legal in NYC.
4) Purchasing untaxed alcohol in NH and bringing it back to NYC.
In other words, fantastic trip.

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Wonderful photos. It’s very pretty here in lower central NH, but the drought has been having an impact in some places.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:19:51am

re: #14 I Would Prefer Not To

Rules/laws broken during trip.
1) Speeding
2) purchasing legal weed in MA and bringing it home to NYC.
3) Purchasing knife in NH that is not legal in NYC.
4) Purchasing untaxed alcohol in NH and bringing it back to NYC.
In other words, fantastic trip.

It doesn’t seem, after all that, that you would prefer not to at all.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:20:18am

re: #2 🌹UOJB!

“The law cannot protect anyone unless it binds everyone; and it cannot bind anyone unless it protects everyone.”
— Frank Wilhoit

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KGxvi  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:21:23am

re: #17 Kilroy was here

You know, the thing that annoyed me about the debates, now that I think about it more, is the swing and a miss that both Biden and Harris had on the “what would you have done differently?” question. Why can’t they say:

1. we would have fully staffed and funded the CDC’s efforts in China so that we (and the world) would have had a better understanding of what was happening sooner

2. we would have worked with the WHO, including using WHO testing kits early on

3. we would have coordinated production and sale of ventilators and PPE among the states so that instead of competing and driving up the costs, we could have saved taxpayer money

4. we would have invoked the defense production authorization act earlier in order to produce ventilators and PPE

5. we would have sought a national mask mandate when it became clear that masks helped slow the spread

That’s all simple shit that doesn’t even get us to nationwide quarantine - and all stuff that would have helped.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:22:43am
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Dave In Austin  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:26:50am

re: #26 jaunte

This Sums that up.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:27:00am
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jaunte  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:28:08am

“Bad arm.” Because Fauci didn’t lie to get out of throwing the ball.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:29:02am

re: #28 Charles Johnson

The dude is a doctor and in his 70s. Who would ever assume he would throw a decent pitch. Most ceremonial pitches aren’t very good.

Hell, if Trump tried to throw a pitch it’d be even worse than Faucis.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:29:10am
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KGxvi  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:30:36am

re: #31 jaunte

Hell, I’m uncomfortable making a history of substance abuse by a candidate into an issue.

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ericblair  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:30:56am
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:31:01am

re: #30 Eclectic Cyborg

The dude is a doctor and in his 70s. Who would ever assume he would throw a decent pitch. Most ceremonial pitches aren’t very good.

Hell, if Trump tried to throw a pitch it’d be even worse than Faucis.

The best ceremonial first pitch by a politician I ever saw was from W Bush. Which makes sense since he loves baseball like I do. It’s the one thing I found relatable about him.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:32:05am

re: #32 KGxvi

At least that has some tangential relation to the job they’ll do in office.
What their family members used to do is pretty far off base.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:32:08am

re: #33 ericblair

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It’s almost like NRO are a bunch of intellectually dishonest hacks. God I do not miss their articles being dumped here and being told that Kevin Williamson actually is a constructive voice.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:32:42am
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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:32:48am

Looks like a perrigrine (?) falcon has found my feeder and decided that the hoomans have set up a snack bar. Hastily snapped with my phone at ~50 ft. from my kitchen window.

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Butt shot
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Dr. Matt  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:32:57am

The master of projection

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KGxvi  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:33:36am

re: #35 jaunte

At least that has some tangential relation to the job they’ll do in office.
What their family members used to do is pretty far off base.

I get why it would be, and if there was evidence that they were an active user, it’d be understandable. But if they’ve gone to rehab, if they’re clean, and working a program… feels like it should be off limits.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:33:43am

HURR HURR WHY WON’T TEH BIDEN DENOUNCE TEH EMAILS AS ALL A BUNCH OF FAKES!!11!!11
Here is why, other than the reason Joe Biden gave already that he doesn’t want his denial to become the sound bite of the day:

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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:34:12am

re: #27 Dave In Austin

Trump’s always projecting like IMAX. He’s doing what he claims Biden did (and there’s zero credible evidence Biden did anything wrong).

All the while, Trump’s family profited from decisions Trump made - whether it was trademarks from China, directing tax relief specifically to Trump related businesses, pressuring the Federal Reserve to drop interest rates right at the time Trump needed to get a massive break as his loans were coming due, or directing over $100 million in taxpayer funds to Trump’s golf and hotel businesses by staying at those businesses endlessly or insisting on GOP attend Trump businesses to keep them afloat.

It was all about Trump personally profiting. Not once did he put the nation’s interests first.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:35:17am

re: #6 Dr. Matt

Rush Limbaugh Delivers Emotional Update on His Battle With Lung Cancer: ‘The Days Where I Do Not Think I’m Under a Death Sentence Are Over’

Good fucking riddance….

Wait a second!

You mean that Paula White and Trump’s Pulpit Pimpin Posse aren’t anointing Rush with holy Crisco oil and laying their hands on him to heal him in the name of Jay-Zuss?

Gosh I’m shocked…

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:36:00am

re: #7 BeachDem

This made me laugh. In the comments to a WaPo article about books with bad endings:

Comment:

Ray Bradbury’s “The Nine Billion Names of God,” for example, isn’t a happy ending, but it is the logical outcome of the plot and it is unforgettable.

Response:

Especially the part when the author of the story is revealed to have been Arthur C. Clarke.

The ending was unforgettable. The IT guys riding down the mountain looking at the sky. I first read that story in an anthology of great sci-fi stories. Was probably the best story of the bunch.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:38:36am

re: #32 KGxvi

Hell, I’m uncomfortable making a history of substance abuse by a candidate into an issue.

I’ve experienced substance abuse second hand including death as a result of it. My grandparents never stopped mourning my uncle, my mom’s only sibling. I don’t talk about it often but it’s definitely a part of who I am. I’m the only of my brothers who knew him but I wasn’t even a year old.

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Dr. Matt  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:39:38am
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jeffreyw  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:39:46am

re: #3 dangerman

YouTube

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William Lewis  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:39:56am

re: #14 I Would Prefer Not To

Here’s a recap of my trip to Vermont with my son (age 24).

The foliage was a little disappointing. Our AirBNB host says that Southern Vermont is experiencing a drought and this causes the trees to not change to the dark reds/oranges that we love. Global warming strikes again, but foliage is always uncertain. Pics below (not in love with the quality, but getting used to camera….).

Vermont is wearing masks. Indoor seating is happening, but less tables. Keene, NH requires mass. I hear that the rest of NH is not as compliant (fuck libertarians).

Rules/laws broken during trip.
1) Speeding
2) purchasing legal weed in MA and bringing it home to NYC.
3) Purchasing knife in NH that is not legal in NYC.
4) Purchasing untaxed alcohol in NH and bringing it back to NYC.
In other words, fantastic trip.

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We had good color, just very early this year. As for the rules, edibles, a good piece of steel is always a pleasant thing though preferably not at the same time as the good booze. I imagine my dao would not be especially NYC acceptable either though :D

Nice pics though, wish I had a bridge like that to use as a subject. What kind of camera are you getting used to?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:40:59am

re: #43 🌹UOJB!

Wait a second!

You mean that Paula White and Trump’s Pulpit Pimpin Posse aren’t anointing Rush with holy Crisco oil and laying their hands on him to heal him in the name of Jay-Zuss?

Gosh I’m shocked…

Crisco?

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William Lewis  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:41:30am

re: #44 Eventual Carrion

The ending was unforgettable. The IT guys riding down the mountain looking at the sky. I first read that story in an anthology of great sci-fi stories. Was probably the best story of the bunch.

Clark had a couple of stories with zingers like that. The Star and Childhood’s End come to mind.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:42:06am

re: #47 jeffreyw

It’s killer birds afternoon on LGF.

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sagehen  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:43:04am

re: #40 KGxvi

I get why it would be, and if there was evidence that they were an active user, it’d be understandable. But if they’ve gone to rehab, if they’re clean, and working a program… feels like it should be off limits.

aka Dubya, the dry drunk.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:43:06am

re: #46 Dr. Matt

Bannon’s trying to whip up a civil war. Pretty sure that’s sedition.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:43:21am

re: #49 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Crisco?

It sure couldn’t be Mazola now, could it? 😈

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:44:25am

re: #53 Dr Lizardo

Bannon’s trying to whip up a civil war. Pretty sure that’s sedition.

Didn’t he say he wanted to burn it all down at the start of this nightmare?

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:45:35am

re: #55 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Didn’t he say he wanted to burn it all down at the start of this nightmare?

Why yes that self-described Leninist DID say he wanted to burn down the house!

Dr. Demento “Burning Down the Cartoon House” Bob Rumbaugh & Basket Case

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:46:00am

re: #55 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Didn’t he say he wanted to burn it all down at the start of this nightmare?

Yep. Looks like a Biden AG is gonna have to go after that sentient cirrhotic liver hardcore.

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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:46:17am

So WTF is Jeffrey Toobin doing that got himself trending on twitter?

Oh, that’s why. He decided to do a zoom call where he unzipped his pants and one-upped the dick pic?

Seriously? Guys can’t keep their pants on? I know the Internet’s for porn, but save it for after work hours. Have some willpower.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:48:21am

re: #6 Dr. Matt

Rush Limbaugh Delivers Emotional Update on His Battle With Lung Cancer: ‘The Days Where I Do Not Think I’m Under a Death Sentence Are Over’

Good fucking riddance….

Hope Limbaugh lives long enough to see the GOP overwhelmingly rejected in November. I don’t want him to die with hope.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:52:05am

If Biden dropped on a F-bomb on Trump for relentlessly going after his kids and family, would you respect Joe more?

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:52:45am

re: #38 Colère Tueur de Lapin

Looks like a perrigrine (?) falcon has found my feeder and decided that the hoomans have set up a snack bar. Halt snapped with my phone at ~50 ft. from my kitchen window.

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(Peregrine.)

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:53:33am

re: #60 Eclectic Cyborg

If Biden dropped on a F-bomb on Trump for relentlessly going after his kids and family, would you respect Joe more?

If Joe uttered the F word to Trump, the CCCP would tear him to pieces.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:53:37am

re: #60 Eclectic Cyborg

If Biden dropped on a F-bomb on Trump for relentlessly going after his kids and family, would you respect Joe more?

Fuck. Yeah.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:53:53am

re: #16 makeitstop

Michael Weiner can’t wait to climb over Limbaugh’s corpse.

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The King is almost dead. Time for the Savages and Levines to battle for the crown of worst gasbag on talk radio.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:55:51am

re: #28 Charles Johnson

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:55:56am

Feezus Jucking JC and his Sonshine Band Key-Rye-Stttt

The New Yorker has suspended reporter Jeffrey Toobin. Sources tell VICE it’s because he exposed himself during a Zoom call last week between members of the New Yorker and WNYC radio.

vice.com

“Party in My Pants” Barnes & Barnes (OFFICIAL VIDEO - BEST QUALITY)

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:56:03am
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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:58:55am

re: #48 William Lewis

We had good color, just very early this year. As for the rules, edibles, a good piece of steel is always a pleasant thing though preferably not at the same time as the good booze. I imagine my dao would not be especially NYC acceptable either though :D

Nice pics though, wish I had a bridge like that to use as a subject. What kind of camera are you getting used to?

It’s a cannon Rebel. never going back to film. Never.

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garzooma  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:59:37am

re: #10 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump is going to talk about nothing but Hunter the entire debate…

and by the end of it millions will be convinced not to vote for Hunter Biden for President

I hope Biden brings a stack of cards listing all the meetings that Trumpworld had with crooks and spies.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2020 • 11:59:52am

re: #67 The Pie Overlord!

“Joe Biden, by attacking the reporter for asking about the allegations against his son, has allowed Trump to get away with attacking the press.” - Some pundit, soon.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:00:00pm
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🌹UOJB!  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:01:25pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

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And the CCCP will continue to give that ass a pass!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:01:52pm

You ever wonder how different this country would be if Fox News had never existed?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:03:04pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:03:21pm

re: #46 Dr. Matt

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:05:51pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:06:36pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:07:10pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:07:39pm

re: #73 Eclectic Cyborg

You ever wonder how different this country would be if Fox News had never existed?

New Zealand has no Murdoch media. Nuff said.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:10:01pm

re: #76 The Pie Overlord!

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A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:10:33pm

re: #10 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump is going to talk about nothing but Hunter the entire debate…

and by the end of it millions will be convinced not to vote for Hunter Biden for President

DT: blathertblathertblatherHUNTERBIDENblatherChinablatherblatherblatherEMAILSblather

Biden: Now, about my plans for addressing the covid-19 epidemic….

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:14:47pm

re: #77 Dread Pirate Ron

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Charles Johnson  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:17:29pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:20:36pm
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🌹UOJB!  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:20:40pm

Steve Bannon is just begging for another indictment.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:20:47pm

Didn’t Toobin get in trouble for some creeper shit a few years ago?

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ericblair  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:21:17pm

re: #78 The Pie Overlord!

Question: has Ben Shapiro denied that he used to steal & sniff his sister’s underwear and has anyone interviewed his sister about that?

They are so, so mad that nobody’s falling for their cunning plan. Which is a Control-C Control-Z copy of their last cunning plan.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:22:25pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

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Trump is very frustrated that the MSM for the most part isn’t amplifying Russian disinformation like they did in 2016.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:23:54pm

re: #86 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Didn’t Toobin get in trouble for some creeper shit a few years ago?

Why yes he did! He just can’t keep Mister Pee Pee in his pants!

nydailynews.com

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Charles Johnson  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:25:31pm
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terraincognita  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:25:33pm

re: #14 I Would Prefer Not To

That’s a pretty steamy double entendre name for a restaurant in a small town when pronounced correctly.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:25:39pm

The rest of the thread continues in the hidden section.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:27:29pm

re: #89 🌹UOJB!

Why yes he did! He just can’t keep Mister Pee Pee in his pants!

nydailynews.com

Thought so.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:29:05pm

re: #91 terraincognita

That’s a pretty steamy double entendre name for a restaurant in a small town when pronounced correctly.

I loved that pic the most!

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William Lewis  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:30:10pm

re: #68 I Would Prefer Not To

It’s a cannon Rebel. never going back to film. Never.

That’s a decent body. You might want to consider investing in other lenses though, the kit lens I had with the last Rebel I had was meh. OTOH, the 50/1.8 is stupid cheap and exquisite. I’m doing Nikon digital these days so I don’t have any Canon glass any more.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:34:37pm

re: #95 William Lewis

That’s a decent body. You might want to consider investing in other lenses though, the kit lens I had with the last Rebel I had was meh. OTOH, the 50/1.8 is stupid cheap and exquisite. I’m doing Nikon digital these days so I don’t have any Canon glass any more.

It came with two lenses. Did not even break out the telephoto. The goal was to do some walks in the woods with son and that was accomplished. And get away from it all. I’m just happy to be happy to walk, post covid. I’m still short of breath going uphill, but was able to do It!!!!

The camera/photos was just an extra that I will use more in the future.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:35:56pm

re: #76 The Pie Overlord!

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Has tRump released his tax returns?

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William Lewis  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:36:18pm

re: #96 I Would Prefer Not To

It came with two lenses. Did not even break out the telephoto. The goal was to do some walks in the woods with son and that was accomplished. And get away from it all. I’m just happy to be happy to walk, post covid. I’m still short of breath going uphill, but was able to do It!!!!

The camera/photos was just an extra that I will use more in the future.

Then enjoy! Having fun is the only excuse :D

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:40:06pm

re: #61 A hollow voice says, Beware the strongman con

Thank you.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:42:00pm
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🌹UOJB!  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:42:24pm

re: #96 I Would Prefer Not To

It came with two lenses. Did not even break out the telephoto. The goal was to do some walks in the woods with son and that was accomplished. And get away from it all. I’m just happy to be happy to walk, post covid. I’m still short of breath going uphill, but was able to do It!!!!

The camera/photos was just an extra that I will use more in the future.

Every time I keep thinking of buying a camera I look at pictures taken with my iPhone and they’re getting sharper with each upgrade.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:42:46pm

Llre: #100 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

But Trump knows many many doctors who many many people are saying deserved it more.

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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:43:11pm

re: #95 William Lewis

That’s a decent body. You might want to consider investing in other lenses though, the kit lens I had with the last Rebel I had was meh. OTOH, the 50/1.8 is stupid cheap and exquisite. I’m doing Nikon digital these days so I don’t have any Canon glass any more.

The 50/1.8 is one of the great wonders of photography. Incredibly cheap and great for portraiture.

I currently shoot with a 18-70 2.8. On occasion I’ll shoot with 8-16 wide angle or a 28-300 if I need the zoom for wildlife.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:44:27pm

Warning: She’s on a rant….
On top of just how fucking disgusting it is that these shitmuffins are using Hunter’s addiction as some awful scandal, the really messed up thing here, the truly evil and fucked up part, the part they are hoping for is this:

I am not sure how far along Hunter is in his recovery, but this fucking awfulness may just cause a relapse. Or worse.

I am SO beyond tired of their fucking default mode being pure evil. They only believe in retribution and punishment. Addicts belong in jail, they deserve what they get, we coddle them too much, addiction doesn’t happen in “good” families, and on and on and on. Prisons are for torture, rape and punishment. Rehabilitation is some “liberal coward” way of dealing with what is in fact a mental health issue.

We are not a nation of good people with some moral high ground. And unless and until we face that and deal with it, these fucking beings with no redeeming human qualities will continue to wield entirely too much power and importance in our country and others who are trying to be like us. This is the kind of shit that makes me want to hurt something.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:44:33pm

re: #24 jaunte

“The law cannot protect anyone unless it binds everyone; and it cannot bind anyone unless it protects everyone.”
— Frank Wilhoit

liberty and justice for all, means all. or it doesn’t mean anything.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:46:17pm
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dangerman  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:47:13pm

re: #31 jaunte

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“We are witnessing one of the darkest political moments in American history.”

that has been the daily story for the last for years

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Charles Johnson  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:47:58pm
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Interesting Times  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:48:13pm

re: #106 jaunte

Or, he’ll show, but (just like last time) completely ignore the questions and just rant about whatever’s rattling around in his Adderall-addled brain.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:48:18pm

re: #104 A Mom Anon

…but when a conservative falls off the wagon (like when William Mr. Morality Bennett was caught with hookers in Las Vegas and fondling the grape to excess…) well forgiveness is DEMANDED for his actions!

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:48:24pm

re: #91 terraincognita

That’s a pretty steamy double entendre name for a restaurant in a small town when pronounced correctly.

The town tried to stop it from happening, but of course that only lead to national news exposure. Last time we went to Brattleboro, VT to see cousins we were going to stop by, but heard that it’s not that great.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:49:35pm
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Eventual Carrion  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:50:00pm

re: #108 Charles Johnson

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But when we are in a war isn’t that what they talk about every night on the news? Didn’t tRump want to use this pandemic to make himself a wartime president? He got his wish, and he is losing this war.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:50:22pm

re: #98 William Lewis

Then enjoy! Having fun is the only excuse :D

Thanks. I used to do it a lot. 30 years ago. Now, I just want pics of cool places and my kids.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:51:29pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:51:41pm

re: #104 A Mom Anon

Warning: She’s on a rant….
On top of just how fucking disgusting it is that these shitmuffins are using Hunter’s addiction as some awful scandal, the really messed up thing here, the truly evil and fucked up part, the part they are hoping for is this:

I am not sure how far along Hunter is in his recovery, but this fucking awfulness may just cause a relapse. Or worse.

I am SO beyond tired of their fucking default mode being pure evil. They only believe in retribution and punishment. Addicts belong in jail, they deserve what they get, we coddle them too much, addiction doesn’t happen in “good” families, and on and on and on. Prisons are for torture, rape and punishment. Rehabilitation is some “liberal coward” way of dealing with what is in fact a mental health issue.

We are not a nation of good people with some moral high ground. And unless and until we face that and deal with it, these fucking beings with no redeeming human qualities will continue to wield entirely too much power and importance in our country and others who are trying to be like us. This is the kind of shit that makes me want to hurt something.

I agree, they are shits. But I also think this helps Biden more than trump. Biden is human and trump is a POS.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:52:55pm

re: #109 Interesting Times

Or, he’ll show, but (just like last time) completely ignore the questions and just rant about whatever’s rattling around in his Adderall-addled brain.

Then they’ll need a Moderator with spine to cut his mic when he starts his shit. He’ll storm off the stage right after the first time.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:53:42pm

re: #111 Barefoot Grin

The town tried to stop it from happening, but of course that only lead to national news exposure. Last time we went to Brattleboro, VT to see cousins we were going to stop by, but heard that it’s not that great.

It was closed the day we were there. We ate at “The Works” and really enjoyed. Best sandwiches in town.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:54:17pm

re: #71 Charles Johnson

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“sir, I’m a health and sciences reporter” (as close to this is a wendys as i could get)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:55:28pm

When Trump loses he’s going to start firing off pardons like a motherfucker between then and 1/20/21.

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:56:44pm

Nate just upped Joe to 88/100 and Trump faw down and go boom to 12/100

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I Would Prefer Not To  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:57:39pm

re: #120 Eclectic Cyborg

When Trump loses he’s going to start firing off pardons like a motherfucker between then and 1/20/21.

Let him. Blanket pardons are not legal. There is not “get out of jail free card.”
State laws still apply. More charges can be filled after he is out of office.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2020 • 12:59:06pm
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dangerman  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:00:03pm

re: #97 Eventual Carrion

Has tRump released his tax returns?

or immigration dox
or health plan
or…

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:00:04pm

re: #122 I Would Prefer Not To

Let him. Blanket pardons are not legal. There is not “get out of jail free card.”
State laws still apply. More charges can be filled after he is out of office.

Donald Trump sometime in mid-2021: “I have the worst fucking attorneys.”

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:01:08pm

re: #120 Eclectic Cyborg

When Trump loses he’s going to start firing off pardons like a motherfucker between then and 1/20/21.

He’ll try to pardon himself.

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Barefoot Grin  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:01:20pm

re: #118 I Would Prefer Not To

It was closed the day we were there. We ate at “The Works” and really enjoyed. Best sandwiches in town.

Yes! I ate there once with my son on the way back from a soccer game in Keene. We usually go to a Mexican place there downtown. It’s not really any better than restaurants here, but somehow my wife loves it.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:03:28pm

re: #106 jaunte

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chairman of the senate foreign relations committee should totally say ‘ok’
(yes i know the pitfalls)

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lawhawk  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:05:15pm

Meanwhile, PA leader (right hand to Abbas) Saeb Erekat is in critical condition with covid19.

On Sunday, the 65-year-old was rushed to the Hadassah Medical Center in Jerusalem from his home in Jericho, in the occupied West Bank.

His condition was described as “serious but stable”, and he was given oxygen.

On Monday morning, the hospital said Mr Erekat’s condition had deteriorated and was “now defined as critical”.

“Due to respiratory distress, he was put on a ventilator and placed in a medically induced coma,” a statement added.

That’s not a good sign.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:05:25pm

re: #128 dangerman

“Let’s begin with a geography question. President Trump, which nations border the Azeri homeland?”

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:08:51pm

re: #130 jaunte

“Let’s begin with a geography question. President Trump, which nations border the Azeri homeland?”

“Why won’t you fake news liars ask why Hunter Biden had kiddy porn on his computer?”

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:08:54pm

re: #106 jaunte

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Trump will, if only so he can fling false, disgusting accusations against Joe to his face before a primetime audience.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:09:32pm

re: #126 Belafon

He’ll try to pardon himself.

Can he resign and have Pence pardon him?

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:09:44pm

J. Fucking. C.

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BlueSpotinAL  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:09:52pm

Warning, have brain bleach handy.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:10:09pm

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

I follow Connie on Facebook, and her family pictures warm my heart and yet make me feel a loss so deep it’s hard to articulate.

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Dr Lizardo  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:10:53pm

re: #129 lawhawk

Meanwhile, PA leader (right hand to Abbas) Saeb Erekat is in critical condition with covid19.

That’s not a good sign.

That’s an understatement. Having to be put into a medically-induced coma? Yikes.

And with that, time to call it a day. Have a good one Lizards, and stay healthy.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:10:58pm

re: #131 🌹UOJB!

“Why won’t you fake news liars ask why Hunter Biden had kiddy porn on his computer?”

‘you asked for foreign policy’

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NetworkKed  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:11:34pm

re: #134 The Pie Overlord!

J. Fucking. C.

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Quick, someone subpoena the Exxon CEO

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:12:06pm

re: #120 Eclectic Cyborg

When Trump loses he’s going to start firing off pardons like a motherfucker between then and 1/20/21.

It wouldn’t surprise me if Trump only pardons himself and his family, because loyalty is a one way street for Trump.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:12:53pm

re: #130 jaunte

“Let’s begin with a geography question. President Trump, which nations border the Azeri homeland?”

“Mr. President, are you worried about the rising US tensions with Wakanda?”

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:13:00pm

re: #128 dangerman

chairman of the senate foreign relations committee should totally say ‘ok’
(yes i know the pitfalls)

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Trump wants anything but COVID and the economic disaster now befalling us as a result. If he shows, he will redirect every “answer” to Hunter Biden and totally ignore the question. He talks about what he wants to talk about. And he will interrupt every Biden response with attacks on Hunter. Certainly part of his challenge now is much of the MSM isn’t playing along this time.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:13:09pm

re: #140 NO SMOCKING GUN!

It wouldn’t surprise me if Trump only pardons himself and his family, because loyalty is a one way street for Trump.

gee, why would his family need to be pardoned for anything?

if that wouldnt be the biggest fucking tell

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:13:37pm

re: #133 GlutenFreeJesus

Can he resign and have Pence pardon him?

Trump resign? I expect him to wonder off, but resign?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:13:45pm

re: #133 GlutenFreeJesus

Can he resign and have Pence pardon him?

Yes, he can.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:15:20pm

re: #142 Hecuba’s daughter

Trump wants anything but COVID and the economic disaster now befalling us as a result. If he shows, he will redirect every “answer” to Hunter Biden and totally ignore the question. He talks about what he wants to talk about. And he will interrupt every Biden response with attacks on Hunter. Certainly part of his challenge now is much of the MSM isn’t playing along this time.

thats part of it for sure

and biden can easily tie covid and the economy into foreign policy question after question

i could think of a dozen ways in no time at all and i’m just a rando non expert

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:15:23pm

I think if he pardons himself or resigns and has Pence do it, you can bet your ass that the NY Attorney General’s office would be even more likely to charge him and his cronies claws can’t reach there.

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Eventual Carrion  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:18:37pm

re: #135 BlueSpotinAL

Warning, have brain bleach handy.

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Does love Colonel Sanders but must hate shoes

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:18:55pm

Governor Beshear is out of quarantine today (just a precaution, a member of his security detail tested positive). 647 new positives today, a new monday high. 9 new dead, a high number for a Monday.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:20:33pm

re: #137 Dr Lizardo

That’s an understatement. Having to be put into a medically-induced coma? Yikes.

And with that, time to call it a day. Have a good one Lizards, and stay healthy.

Have to say that if the doctors there manage to save Erekat that may do more to help improve relationships between the Israelis and the Palestinians than anything the Bibi administration has done over the past several years. Of course, one might say that all Bibi has done is try to sabotage prospects of peace — but maybe this time there can be hope.

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NetworkKed  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:21:05pm

Pretty sure that there’s no way that Trump can resign and force Pence to pardon him.

I don’t know where Pence’s head is right now - is he so far up Trump’s ass that “of course I will”? Is he looking out for history or some future in politics? He acts the true believer, but up until this point he’s needed to if he wants to stay in his job.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:22:56pm

re: #127 Barefoot Grin

Yes! I ate there once with my son on the way back from a soccer game in Keene. We usually go to a Mexican place there downtown. It’s not really any better than restaurants here, but somehow my wife loves it.

The Mexican restaurant I frequent is just around the corner from my home. It’s just a little hole in the wall place called Jarritos. Here is their online menu. Their Lengua (beef tongue) burrito is to die for.

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ericblair  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:24:58pm

re: #151 NetworkKed

Pretty sure that there’s no way that Trump can resign and force Pence to pardon him.

I don’t know where Pence’s head is right now - is he so far up Trump’s ass that “of course I will”? Is he looking out for history or some future in politics? He acts the true believer, but up until this point he’s needed to if he wants to stay in his job.

He’d expect Pence to fuck him over because that’s what he’d do to Pence if the roles were reversed. At most, he’ll try to pardon himself, or he may just completely toddle off to La-La Land and pretend none of this is happening. If he doesn’t have a COVID relapse and/or stroke out.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:25:04pm

re: #144 Belafon

Trump resign? I expect him to wonder off, but resign?

Trump might do anything between now and inauguration day, with the sole exception of conceding gracefully and cooperating in a smooth transfer of power. Whether he fights like hell to cling to power, or slinks off to sulk at Mar-a-Lago for a couple of months, we’ll basically have a headless federal government for 11 weeks.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:27:03pm

re: #151 NetworkKed

Pretty sure that there’s no way that Trump can resign and force Pence to pardon him.

I don’t know where Pence’s head is right now - is he so far up Trump’s ass that “of course I will”? Is he looking out for history or some future in politics? He acts the true believer, but up until this point he’s needed to if he wants to stay in his job.

If Pence wants Trump’s blessing to run in 2024, he has to keep kissing Trump’s ass.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:27:58pm

re: #151 NetworkKed

Pretty sure that there’s no way that Trump can resign and force Pence to pardon him.

I don’t know where Pence’s head is right now - is he so far up Trump’s ass that “of course I will”? Is he looking out for history or some future in politics? He acts the true believer, but up until this point he’s needed to if he wants to stay in his job.

pence pardons trump and his ‘career’ in politics is over

and if the resignation /pardons were set up as a qpq, it could get awfully dicey

further if trump threatens or in some way ‘bribes’ pence to ensure he does it, well, dicey won’t begin to cover it

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:28:24pm

re: #135 BlueSpotinAL

And you posted that why?

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:29:24pm

re: #152 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

The Mexican restaurant I frequent is just around the corner from my home. It’s just a little hole in the wall place called Jarritos. Here is their online menu. Their Lengua (beef tongue) burrito is to die for.

i love tongue piled high on rye with mustard
or polonaise

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:29:48pm

Welp, our Governor said at his press conference earlier that it’s A-okay for families to get together for Thanksgiving, just be safe about it blah blah blah.

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Charles Johnson  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:30:04pm
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NetworkKed  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:30:09pm

re: #155 NO SMOCKING GUN!

If Pence wants Trump’s blessing to run in 2024, he has to keep kissing Trump’s ass.

re: #156 dangerman

pence pardons trump and his ‘career’ in politics is over

The crazy thing is both of these takes are totally valid.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:30:14pm

All 2024 is gonna be is Republicans trying to either kiss Trump and his base’s ass or try to act like they never supported him and his agenda.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:30:19pm

re: #154 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Trump might do anything between now and inauguration day, with the sole exception of conceding gracefully and cooperating in a smooth transfer of power. Whether he fights like hell to cling to power, or slinks off to sulk at Mar-a-Lago for a couple of months, we’ll basically have a headless federal government for 11 weeks.

you mean we dont now?
all he does is jet in and jet out
he doesnt do anything

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:31:53pm

re: #162 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

All 2024 is gonna be is Republicans trying to either kiss Trump and his base’s ass or try to act like they never supported him and his agenda.

At least Charlie Kirk will STILL be too young to run by then.

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wrenchwench  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:31:57pm

re: #152 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

The Mexican restaurant I frequent is just around the corner from my home. It’s just a little hole in the wall place called Jarritos. Here is their online menu. Their Lengua (beef tongue) burrito is to die for.

I used to go to Los Jarritos in Redlands, CA. Just a common implement, not a franchise, I’m pretty sure…

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:33:39pm

re: #164 Eclectic Cyborg

At least Charlie Kirk will STILL be too young to run by then.

I’m hoping by 2024, Charlie’s TPUSa money will run out.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:36:16pm

re: #165 wrenchwench

I used to go to Los Jarritos in Redlands, CA. Just a common implement, not a franchise, I’m pretty sure…

Ours is locally owned and operated. Not part of a franchise

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danarchy  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:36:48pm

Apparently an agreement was reached with Sudan to remove them from the state sponsor of terror list. I expect an announcement of normalization of Israel relations will come before the election so Trump can claim another victory.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:40:31pm

re: #26 jaunte

JUST POSTED: Trump claims the Bidens are corrupt & demands they release documents about their business activities. Here’s a LONG list of Trump family financial mysteries/conflicts he still refuses to explain. Will he release the emails? Please like/RT.

a man who refuses to release his tax returns is demanding the Bidens release documents?

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A Mom Anon  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:42:57pm

re: #169 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Wouldn’t taxes pretty much show their business dealings and where their money came from? That’s a rather redundant request. Also too, STFU Donnie. Until you disclose what the Biden’s have.

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ericblair  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:44:02pm

re: #169 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

a man who refuses to release his tax returns is demanding the Bidens release documents?

It’s amazing that so much of democratic governance depends on leaders having at least some vestige of a sense of shame.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:48:27pm
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Teukka  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:49:02pm

So this analysis of QAnon crossed my feeds:

QANON and New Age Fascism

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A Mom Anon  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:49:34pm

re: #171 ericblair

Well, that and just being a decent human being to begin with.

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Quoth the raven, Covfefe.  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:50:59pm

Evening Lizardim on the eve of the first major snowfall of the 2020-2021 winter season. That’s right, because apparently 2020 doesn’t already suck badly enough. How go things among the lizardfolk on this frigid and snowy Monday?

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:51:19pm

re: #173 Teukka

So this analysis of QAnon crossed my feeds:

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It would not surprise me if the next GOP nominee for president fully embraces Qanon.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:51:25pm
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NetworkKed  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:52:06pm

re: #172 NO SMOCKING GUN!

If it’s a historical landslide, it’ll be over before the west coast closes. This is not as impossible as it sounds, particularly if FL, GA, and NC are not close.

edit - I went to play around with this, and it’s not even close.
270towin.com

I honestly don’t expect to win GA - the results there are going to be as screwed up usual. But everything else is easy with Biden overperforming

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wrenchwench  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:52:16pm

re: #174 A Mom Anon

Well, that and just being a decent human being to begin with.

When the installers showed up with his vestige of shame, they couldn’t find any place to put it.

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garzooma  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:56:38pm

re: #121 🌹UOJB!

Nate just upped Joe to 88/100 and Trump faw down and go boom to 12/100

Trump’s chances have fallen by a half since Sept. 17. They were at 24% then.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:57:47pm

re: #180 garzooma

Trump’s chances have fallen by a half since Sept. 17. They were at 24% then.

Trump has find nothing to improve his chances. The walls are closing in on him which is why his attacks are getting more pathetic.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:58:22pm
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jaunte  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:59:02pm

Because Trump can’t speak, only the people who most closely follow the context can understand what he’s saying.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Oct 19, 2020 • 1:59:42pm

This is an abomination and a crime against humanity. Why would ANYONE do this? VB you don’t EVEN want to look. It would break your heart.

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William Lewis  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:00:17pm

re: #177 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Interesting! I was not aware that Steichen had worked in autochrome. Probably since I have always paid more attention to Alfred Stieglitz instead out of that generation, but it’s good work.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:01:34pm
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Jay C  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:02:47pm

re: #135 BlueSpotinAL

Warning, have brain bleach handy.

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Could have been WAY worse: could have been pictures of Trump….

(which I thought it was for a second….)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:03:36pm

re: #184 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

This is an abomination and a crime against humanity. Why would ANYONE do this? VB you don’t EVEN want to look. It would break your heart.

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That looks absolutely disgusting. It’s dry and cuts like an way over done pot roast. Yuk.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:06:47pm

re: #180 garzooma

Trump’s chances have fallen by a half since Sept. 17. They were at 24% then.

the chances are better that florida has a late season hurricane after trump loses, than that trump doesnt lose

did that come out right?

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:07:07pm

re: #6 Dr. Matt

👍🏿. Good!!

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:09:07pm

re: #178 NetworkKed

… Biden overperforming

This is not a thing.

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Jay C  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:09:49pm

re: #156 dangerman

pence pardons trump and his ‘career’ in politics is over

Like he has such a prestigious and potentially lucrative position NOW?

FWIW, I think you could make the same argument on the other side, i.e. that if Pence doesn’t pardon Trump his “career”* in politics is over…

Though I’m sure Mike and Mother have some sort of wingnut-welfare gig lined up: maybe that other Indiana solon Dan Quayle can help him out….

*scare-quotes deliberate

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:10:12pm

re: #26 jaunte

What a bloody nerve!!

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:12:00pm

re: #181 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Trump has find nothing to improve his chances. The walls are closing in on him which is why his attacks are getting more pathetic.

hes got no moves left
he has to get scads of people who havent voted to change their preference from biden to him
no one’s ever succeeded like that with cards like these. ever.
and he’s not doing anything to actually achieve that

chant lock em up
rag on fauci
downplay the pandemic further

no - what’s gonna happen is while trump’s got this Adams idiot and Birx is arguing with Pence, coronavirus will surge, and in swing states - it’s already clear.

this will change votes
in the other direction

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:12:53pm

re: #128 dangerman

chairman of the senate foreign relations committee should totally say ‘ok’
(yes i know the pitfalls)

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Remember that Joe totally shredded all of trump’s alleged “foreign policy” at the townhall the other night.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:14:29pm

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

Remember that Joe totally shredded all of trump’s alleged “foreign policy” at the townhall the other night.

Hunter!!!

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Jack Burton  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:16:22pm

re: #173 Teukka

So this analysis of QAnon crossed my feeds:

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I haven’t had time to watch that yet, but insanity aside… some aspects of QAnon seem to mirror the mystical/occult aspects of anti-semitism and the Nazi dabbling into the occult ala Thule Society, et al.

Which is funny because back in the 90s the right wing crazies were claiming Nazi Occultism to be the precursor to the New World Order bullshit. Now they are embracing that shit.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:17:22pm

re: #192 Jay C

Like he has such a prestigious and potentially lucrative position NOW?

FWIW, I think you could make the same argument on the other side, i.e. that if Pence doesn’t pardon Trump his “career”* in politics is over…

Though I’m sure Mike and Mother have some sort of wingnut-welfare gig lined up: maybe that other Indiana solon Dan Quayle can help him out….

*scare-quotes deliberate

when i say career, i meant president
i think he’s still deluding himself that he wants to and can be and will be president

he’s got just the thinnest veneer of pious deniability now (no it’s not really there)

pardon trump and he’s in the thick of it and tarred for all time with the rest of them

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:20:38pm

Another reason why Trump is bragging about being able to extort money from Exxon.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:22:04pm

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

Remember that Joe totally shredded all of trump’s alleged “foreign policy” at the townhall the other night.

that’s exactly why i said it

and while trump keeps trying to pivot to but but but hunter, someone - moderator or biden - will remind him that he asked for the switch to foreign policy

it’ll also be harder to interrupt joe while he’s talking about the world - because trumps got no depth - he’s got nothing there. ‘beautiful north korea’? really?

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🌹UOJB!  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:24:47pm

re: #180 garzooma

Trump’s chances have fallen by a half since Sept. 17. They were at 24% then.

I won’t relax until Nate has Joe at 100/100.

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Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:24:49pm

I see that Keith Olbermann is back to doing political commentary, and I have to say that I have missed his usually very accurate takes on the Trump crime family.

Latest one from today, and it’s very safe to say that the filters are completely OFF.

Worst Person In The World by Keith Olbermann No. 9

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KGxvi  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:24:58pm

re: #156 dangerman

pence pardons trump and his ‘career’ in politics is over

and if the resignation /pardons were set up as a qpq, it could get awfully dicey

further if trump threatens or in some way ‘bribes’ pence to ensure he does it, well, dicey won’t begin to cover it

Pence’s career in politics is over, regardless of what happens in two weeks. He’s not going to be the GOP standard bearer in 2024, what other office is there for him? Senator from Indiana? I thought he wasn’t well liked there either?

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:26:03pm

rando commenter:

TRUMP ATTACK ON MAIL IN BALLOTS HAS BACKFIRED BIG TIME

Trump was counting a lot of Voters mostly DEMS and IND voters voting by MAIL in the pandemic . This form of voting he could control and fuck with by

1 slow down the mail in ballot by changing the Post office ( which he did )

2 undermine the system with specious unfounded conspiracy driven rants — which he has done and is STILL doing

3 legally contest ballots on technicalities and arriving AFTER the NOV 3 deadline — which has has done already in a few states. If necessary go to the SC

BUT EARLY VOTING ?? THERE IS NO WAY TO STOP THAT.

30 MILLION VOTES ALREADY and the numbers are massive for the DEMs

if anything polls are UNDERDOING Democratic and IND voting turnout / estimates
These votes are in the bank !!!

The idiot trump has driven voters away from mail in ballots to EARLY voting which cannot be challenged

MOREOVER this places a lot less strain on states election systems [on 11/3].

All the mainstream Political media talk about not knowing who won MI or PA for days or weeks will prove to be total Bullshit.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:26:28pm

re: #201 🌹UOJB!

I won’t relax until Nate has Joe at 100/100.

on 11/4

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Jay C  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:27:10pm

re: #195 Backwoods_Sleuth

Remember that Joe totally shredded all of trump’s alleged “foreign policy” at the townhall the other night.

I’m gonna disagree: despite you and I (and most Lizards, I’m sure) looking on Trump’s foreign policy as an embarrassing shitshow, I think- as far as public opinion goes - it’s the one last vague, flimsy straw he has to cling on to to try to even remotely appear “Presidential”, and he’s going to try - one would imagine - to flog it for everything it’s worth in a debate.

Of course, it’s likely to be the usual simpleminded boilerplate (“I love Israel! I hate China! I love Saudi Arabia! I hate Iran!) and its mindless corollary (“Joe hates Israel! Joe loves China! Joe hates the Saudis! Joe loves Iran!”) , plus the usual fan favorites about “open borders” and “MS-13 gang caravans” and whatever, but the big problem for Biden and rhe Democrats is that this shit plays well in the “heartland”; and given that the “MSM” is probably going to pathetically grasp at that same, last, pathetic straw as the last chance for a “Presidential pivot”, a FP-centered debate is not going to be the runaway it should…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:27:39pm

re: #201 🌹UOJB!

I won’t relax until Nate has Joe at 100/100.

I won’t relax until the final winning votes are counted on election day. Nate is completely irrelevant.

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KGxvi  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:27:47pm

re: #178 NetworkKed

If it’s a historical landslide, it’ll be over before the west coast closes. This is not as impossible as it sounds, particularly if FL, GA, and NC are not close.

edit - I went to play around with this, and it’s not even close.
270towin.com

I honestly don’t expect to win GA - the results there are going to be as screwed up usual. But everything else is easy with Biden overperforming

I’m cautiously optimistic about Florida and North Carolina, slightly less so about Georgia, but I highly doubt any of those will be called before California closes at 8 pm PST

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:27:51pm

re: #178 NetworkKed

If it’s a historical landslide, it’ll be over before the west coast closes. This is not as impossible as it sounds, particularly if FL, GA, and NC are not close.

edit - I went to play around with this, and it’s not even close.
270towin.com

I honestly don’t expect to win GA - the results there are going to be as screwed up usual. But everything else is easy with Biden overperforming

I am optimistic that Georgia is winnable.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:29:16pm

re: #209 NO SMOCKING GUN!

I am optimistic that Georgia is winnable.

I see Georgia as playing a similar role that Virginia did in 2008. Perdue really stepped in it with the Ka-mala-mala crap.

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PrairieQueen  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:30:34pm

re: #6 Dr. Matt

There are so many good and wonderful and beloved and famous and just plain average people who die of cancer every day, and yet a cure for all these various cancers eludes us. It’s heartbreaking.

You know who rarely ever gets cancer? Assholes. Assholes and serial killers and dictators and child molesters and the infamous war criminals seem to have a gene that prevents getting cancer. Usually. But every now and again, they do.

I didn’t shed a tear when Falwell died. Or Jeffrey Epstein. Or Ted Bundy. Or Idi Amin. Likewise, when the likes of Dick Cheney and Rush Limbaugh finally go, I’m only going to lament why it took so long after a life of widespread harm without accountability. Yeah, that part will actually piss me off.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:32:10pm

I honestly won’t breathe a sigh of relief until Joe is officially inaugurated.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:32:55pm
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NetworkKed  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:33:31pm

re: #208 KGxvi

I’m cautiously optimistic about Florida and North Carolina, slightly less so about Georgia, but I highly doubt any of those will be called before California closes at 8 pm PST

So the weird thing is, except in states where they cannot count mail ballots ahead of time (PA, kinda) record mail voting could in fact mean much FASTER calls.

If Biden was winning by 2% in these states, yeah, it would be the usual slog. But if he’s winning by 7%, or 10%, or more, and the mail ballots dump into the system immediately, states that usually are a mess may end up being easy to call within an hour.

edit - I’ve been skeptical of the “it’ll take a week!” crowd from the beginning, and it’s really getting to the point where I’m starting to see the long-count cheerleaders as carrying water for the Trump campaign. It’ll take forever, so there must be something wrong with it. Or if it doesn’t take forever, then the Dems are cheating. It’s just trying to discredit results they don’t like.

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KGxvi  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:33:33pm

It’s still a little crazy to me that you can win the EC by winning just 11 states. It used to be 13 states, I think, but population shifts have made it even fewer.

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Hecuba's daughter  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:35:54pm

re: #201 🌹UOJB!

I won’t relax until Nate has Joe at 100/100.

I won’t relax until the election is over and Biden is declared the winner (and the Dems retake the Senate and keep the House)!

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Vote Cthulhu - No longer the greater evil!  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:36:22pm

re: #201 🌹UOJB!

I won’t relax until Nate has Joe at 100/100.

Yeah, likewise, and even with that, I worry that Trump’s currently attempts to invalidate the election might gain some traction with his cronies and enablers, which is exactly what is happening with his latest escalation saying that both Joe and Hunter Biden should be arrested (and subsequently calling press members criminals for not pushing the narrative).

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Jay C  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:37:59pm

re: #215 KGxvi

It’s still a little crazy to me that you can win the EC by winning just 11 states. It used to be 13 states, I think, but population shifts have made it even fewer.

Even crazier, those 11 states still get to send only 22 Senators to the Senate, vs. 78 for everybody else…..

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Nojay UK  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:38:55pm

re: #215 KGxvi

It’s still a little crazy to me that you can win the EC by winning just 11 states. It used to be 13 states, I think, but population shifts have made it even fewer.

In contrast 24% of the US voting population choose 60% of the nation’s Senators.

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A Mom Anon  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:41:36pm

re: #210 LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)

Ossoff was up 7 points over Purdue as of yesterday. The Warnock/Loeffler/whothehellaretheseotherpeople race has Warnock ahead by 9-14 points depending on the poll. But Warnock needs 50 percent plus one to win and not face a runoff, so that one is less sure on Nov 4th when the votes are counted(hopefully). I’m a bit more optimistic than I was a month ago, but both of these races are going to be too close for comfort. Turnout looks good, but this is the south and a lot of republicans do vote early and by mail, especially the seniors.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:43:29pm

re: #206 Jay C

I’m gonna disagree: despite you and I (and most Lizards, I’m sure) looking on Trump’s foreign policy as an embarrassing shitshow, I think- as far as public opinion goes - it’s the one last vague, flimsy straw he has to cling on to to try to even remotely appear “Presidential”, and he’s going to try - one would imagine - to flog it for everything it’s worth in a debate.

Of course, it’s likely to be the usual simpleminded boilerplate (“I love Israel! I hate China! I love Saudi Arabia! I hate Iran!) and its mindless corollary (“Joe hates Israel! Joe loves China! Joe hates the Saudis! Joe loves Iran!”) , plus the usual fan favorites about “open borders” and “MS-13 gang caravans” and whatever, but the big problem for Biden and rhe Democrats is that this shit plays well in the “heartland”; and given that the “MSM” is probably going to pathetically grasp at that same, last, pathetic straw as the last chance for a “Presidential pivot”, a FP-centered debate is not going to be the runaway it should…

discussing foreign policy requires depth of knowledge

- is Iran now closer to building a nuclear weapon
- how did pulling out of the Paris accord make the US seen by the rest of the world.
- what does NATO think of us
- why cant Americans go to other countries.
- how has tourism and college enrollment fallen way down because of Trump’s policies and Covid-19.
- the trade deficit is at a record high, even though trump said he was going to cut it.
- this admin’s miserable failures in Syria.

- we can even go into Russias interference in our elections, and the current investigation into Russian dissemination of disinformation

- oh, want to bring up Hunter biden? well then, Ukraine what Trump was impeached for, and why so many people from the State department have left.

and he’s got no real wins w/r/t israel. moving the embassy? normalized relations with bahrain? meh.

joe would eat him alive

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Patricia Kayden  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:45:08pm
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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:45:31pm

Lre: #220 A Mom Anon

Ossoff was up 7 points over Purdue as of yesterday. The Warnock/Loeffler/whothehellaretheseotherpeople race has Warnock ahead by 9-14 points depending on the poll. But Warnock needs 50 percent plus one to win and not face a runoff, so that one is less sure on Nov 4th when the votes are counted(hopefully). I’m a bit more optimistic than I was a month ago, but both of these races are going to be too close for comfort. Turnout looks good, but this is the south and a lot of republicans do vote early and by mail, especially the seniors.

Yeah I hear ya. I just think they’ve done a lot to alienate suburban voters.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:45:58pm

re: #220 A Mom Anon

Ossoff was up 7 points over Purdue as of yesterday. The Warnock/Loeffler/whothehellaretheseotherpeople race has Warnock ahead by 9-14 points depending on the poll. But Warnock needs 50 percent plus one to win and not face a runoff, so that one is less sure on Nov 4th when the votes are counted(hopefully). I’m a bit more optimistic than I was a month ago, but both of these races are going to be too close for comfort. Turnout looks good, but this is the south and a lot of republicans do vote early and by mail, especially the seniors.

We weren’t counting on Ossoff winning to take over the Senate, so that’s a yay. Try not to turn every new possibility into an “if we don’t win it we’ve lost” because then it makes taking over the Senate become a failure.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:46:28pm

re: #222 Patricia Kayden

If McConnell cared, it would be a scandal.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:46:52pm

re: #108 Charles Johnson

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I was actually busy at work today so just catching up.

He thinks being outrageous will win. I think people are tired. And don’t fuck with our health asshole.

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The Pie Overlord!  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:47:53pm

re: #221 dangerman

discussing foreign policy requires depth of knowledge

- is Iran now closer to building a nuclear weapon
- how did pulling out of the Paris accord make the US seen by the rest of the world.
- what does NATO think of us
- why cant Americans go to other countries.
- how has tourism and college enrollment fallen way down because of Trump’s policies and Covid-19.
- the trade deficit is at a record high, even though trump said he was going to cut it.
- this admin’s miserable failures in Syria.

- we can even go into Russias interference in our elections, and the current investigation into Russian dissemination of disinformation

- oh, want to bring up Hunter biden? well then, Ukraine what Trump was impeached for, and why so many people from the State department have left.

and he’s got no real wins w/r/t israel. moving the embassy? normalized relations with bahrain? meh.

joe would eat him alive

We already know Trump’s debate strategy. Forget the ground rules, forget the moderator, he’s going to hunterbidenhunterbidenhunterbiden when it’s his turn to speak and HUNTERBIDENHUNTERBIDENHUNTERBIDEN!!!TY when it’s Joe’s turn to speak. He will not address the topics or stop speaking when it’s not his turn.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:47:55pm

re: #214 NetworkKed

So the weird thing is, except in states where they cannot count mail ballots ahead of time (PA, kinda) record mail voting could in fact mean much FASTER calls.

If Biden was winning by 2% in these states, yeah, it would be the usual slog. But if he’s winning by 7%, or 10%, or more, and the mail ballots dump into the system immediately, states that usually are a mess may end up being easy to call within an hour.

edit - I’ve been skeptical of the “it’ll take a week!” crowd from the beginning, and it’s really getting to the point where I’m starting to see the long-count cheerleaders as carrying water for the Trump campaign. It’ll take forever, so there must be something wrong with it. Or if it doesn’t take forever, then the Dems are cheating. It’s just trying to discredit results they don’t like.

florida’s already started counting the mail-ins

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:49:16pm

re: #227 The Pie Overlord!

We already know Trump’s debate strategy. Forget the ground rules, forget the moderator, he’s going to hunterbidenhunterbidenhunterbiden when it’s his turn to speak and HUNTERBIDENHUNTERBIDENHUNTERBIDEN!!!TY when it’s Joe’s turn to speak. He will not address the topics or stop speaking when it’s not his turn.

He lost the first debate because he couldn’t stay on topic and kept interrupting. This will definitely make him look more pathetic.

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danarchy  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:50:05pm

re: #222 Patricia Kayden

[Embedded content]

He was saying he doesn’t do that because he doesn’t want to be beholden to anyone, but if he wanted to, he could totally raise more money than Joe Biden with illegal quid pro quos.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:53:04pm
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dangerman  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:53:44pm

re: #229 Belafon

He lost the first debate because he couldn’t stay on topic and kept interrupting. This will definitely make him look more pathetic.

yes pathetic
because he demanded this last minute change to foreign policy

he could try to hunter hunter hunter, but he can do that already on national tv - it wont help

especially when discussing taiwan, the koreas, china and the south china sea, immigration, afghanistan et al, and on and on

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A Mom Anon  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:54:06pm

re: #224 Belafon

We’ve got some good chances in other states too, so I’m hoping we gain at least 5 seats, I think that might be more possible than anyone thought. Republicans are showing their asses and being cowardly when asked about their support for Trumpcrap, and it’s not helping. For people so concerned with “optics” none of them even get how awful they look to the general public outside their bubble. Loeffler’s ads have been just stupid and really tone deaf, Collins’ are just about how he’s not Loeffler. And I’m seeing fewer of them daily, while Warnock’s ads have been focused less on the opposition and more on his history and what his vision is to bring GA up to where it could be with good leadership. And interestingly, there have been NO negative ads against Warnock. No scary socialism ads or any of the garbage Purdue has been running against Ossoff. It’s going to be an interesting election day to totally understate it.

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danarchy  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:54:15pm

re: #231 Dread Pirate Ron

[Embedded content]

How was this not already part of the official guidance?

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:55:01pm

I haven’t finished even scanning through the article, but shit, what a fiasco
Thread

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:55:36pm

re: #231 Dread Pirate Ron

The guidelines the White House had blocked months ago.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:55:53pm

re: #234 danarchy

How was this not already part of the official guidance?

Because of the White House.

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jaunte  Oct 19, 2020 • 2:57:54pm

re: #230 danarchy

“I could be very rich if I took out uuuge loans and never paid.”

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John Hughes  Oct 19, 2020 • 3:00:12pm

re: #201 🌹UOJB!

I won’t relax until Nate has Joe at 100/100.

Who gives a flying fuck what “Nate” says. There is only one important poll. “Nate” has nothing to do with it.

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dangerman  Oct 19, 2020 • 3:00:56pm

that great deal for russian ventilators….

A FEMA spokesperson told BuzzFeed News the agency has “disposed of” 45 Russian ventilators delivered as part of a US-Russia exchange of medical supplies but never used.

“First, the Aventa-M ventilators required an electrical voltage not compatible in the US, meaning they could not be used without an adapter that hospitals did not have. Weeks later, several of the same models caught fire in Russian hospitals, causing the deaths of six people and prompting the government to halt their manufacture.”

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Oct 19, 2020 • 3:01:24pm

re: #239 John Hughes

Who gives a flying fuck what “Nate” says. There is only one important poll. “Nate” has nothing to do with it.

👆🏼👆🏼👆🏼👆🏼👆🏼👆🏼👆🏼👆🏼👆🏼👆🏼👆🏼👆🏼👆🏼👆🏼

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2020 • 3:06:33pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 19, 2020 • 3:07:01pm

re: #206 Jay C

I’m gonna disagree: despite you and I (and most Lizards, I’m sure) looking on Trump’s foreign policy as an embarrassing shitshow, I think- as far as public opinion goes - it’s the one last vague, flimsy straw he has to cling on to to try to even remotely appear “Presidential”, and he’s going to try - one would imagine - to flog it for everything it’s worth in a debate.

Of course, it’s likely to be the usual simpleminded boilerplate (“I love Israel! I hate China! I love Saudi Arabia! I hate Iran!) and its mindless corollary (“Joe hates Israel! Joe loves China! Joe hates the Saudis! Joe loves Iran!”) , plus the usual fan favorites about “open borders” and “MS-13 gang caravans” and whatever, but the big problem for Biden and rhe Democrats is that this shit plays well in the “heartland”; and given that the “MSM” is probably going to pathetically grasp at that same, last, pathetic straw as the last chance for a “Presidential pivot”, a FP-centered debate is not going to be the runaway it should…

I’m sorry, are you disagreeing that Joe shredded trump’s alleged foreign policy in response to the idiotic townhall question that “trump should get credit for peace breaking out around the world”?
Sounds to me that you are commenting on something completely different.

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Belafon  Oct 19, 2020 • 3:11:22pm
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BeachDem  Oct 19, 2020 • 3:24:22pm

re: #233 A Mom Anon

We’ve got some good chances in other states too, so I’m hoping we gain at least 5 seats, I think that might be more possible than anyone thought. Republicans are showing their asses and being cowardly when asked about their support for Trumpcrap, and it’s not helping. For people so concerned with “optics” none of them even get how awful they look to the general public outside their bubble. Loeffler’s ads have been just stupid and really tone deaf, Collins’ are just about how he’s not Loeffler. And I’m seeing fewer of them daily, while Warnock’s ads have been focused less on the opposition and more on his history and what his vision is to bring GA up to where it could be with good leadership. And interestingly, there have been NO negative ads against Warnock. No scary socialism ads or any of the garbage Purdue has been running against Ossoff. It’s going to be an interesting election day to totally understate it.

Right next door, Jaime’s ads are hopeful and happy and informative and sincere. Lindsey’s are just dark and stupid—SOCIALISM!! LIBERAL!! ABORTION!! TERRORISTS!! (and why he run a bazillion ads on Raw Story, I do not know, but every time I take my ad blocker off, I smile because I know I’m costing him money.)

It goes without saying that I want that orange thing to lose big time, but I also REALLY want Jaime to win. He is such a good guy and would be so great for this state because he actually cares and spends his time doing something about it. Can it be November 4 already? Can it be over and yield the results we want and need? So I can maybe actually sleep without waking up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat? Please?


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