Yo-Yo Ma’s #SongsOfComfort: Albinoni’s Adagio in G Minor

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For those grieving.
Albinoni: Adagio in G Minor #songsofcomfort

This video was originally released on May 7, 2020, as part of Yo-Yo Ma’s #SongsOfComfort project, which was launched at the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic to provide comfort in a time of anxiety and fear. The project inspired thousands of people around the world to upload their own songs of comfort in the months that followed.

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austin_blue  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:20:23pm

I applaud Ma’s efforts.

He’s also the best cellist in the world.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:21:22pm

Thanks Charles.

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lawhawk  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:21:45pm
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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:24:40pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:25:26pm

I’ve always loved this particular piece; the melody is one of the most beautiful in all of classical music, IMO. This is the first time I’ve heard it in a solo cello arrangement, though. It’s incredible.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:27:15pm

re: #3 lawhawk

Republicans can’t actually de-escalate the situation by admitting error, because their entire culture over decades has been about stoking resentment and demonizing the opposition. You can see each individual trying to gauge if there’s a way to save their branding by finding the exact level of stepping away from Trump then can do without triggering the base.

They can only demand that others de-escalate with the threat of more harm, or create whataboutist chaff.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:27:31pm

Again, this damn thing comes back to Alabama. Three of the weapons/firebomb instances and the Late ElectroBalls, the Mo Brooks and Tuberville clusterfuck, and now:

SPLC calls for investigation into Alabama AG’s role in Capitol protest
al.com

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:27:43pm

re: #4 NO SMOCKING GUN!

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82,000 karma! Thanks!

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:27:50pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:27:56pm

Not a peep from right-wingers about the death of the Capitol Hill Police officer.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:28:31pm

re: #8 NO SMOCKING GUN!

Congrats. :)

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makeitstop  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:29:12pm

We’re reaching new frontiers in gullibility in this country.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:29:19pm

I’ve always thought that McConnell was at least sane in survival terms, though utterly depraved otherwise. I am having doubts though. If he were sane he would be pushing with all his might to get Cheeto out the door in favor of Pence no later than Monday. Nine days with a crazy person in charge could easily be fatal.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:29:33pm

The conspiracy theorists are blowing their wads today because Wikileaks dumped a bunch of stuff online.

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b.d. (We Won!)  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:30:08pm

Alex Jones is done with Q

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:30:13pm

Agreed. If Mexicans did this, the U.S. Army would be on it’s way to Mexico City now.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:31:11pm

re: #16 DodgerFan1988

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Agreed. If Mexicans did this, the U.S. Army would be on it’s way to Mexico City now.

And the MAGAts would have surrounded every taco truck in America.

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:32:28pm
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jaunte  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:32:43pm
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thedopefishlives  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:32:46pm

re: #16 DodgerFan1988

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Agreed. If Mexicans did this, the U.S. Army would be on it’s way to Mexico City now.

If it was Arabs, the B-52’s would’ve been in the air 24 hours ago.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:33:41pm

re: #20 thedopefishlives

If blacks did it, there would be morgue trucks parked all the way into Virginia to pick up the dead bodies.

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:33:58pm
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Interesting Times  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:34:07pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:34:36pm

re: #16 DodgerFan1988

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Agreed. If Mexicans did this, the U.S. Army would be on it’s way to Mexico City now.

There wouldn’t be one brick standing on another or two boards left nailed together anywhere in Ciudad Juarez by now.

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:34:55pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:35:11pm

re: #22 jaunte

So they’re admitting that their base is full of deranged lunatics.

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Dangerman  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:37:42pm
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jaunte  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:38:05pm

re: #26 Ace Rothstein

And they’re petrified about losing the deranged lunatic vote.

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:39:14pm
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Ace Rothstein  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:39:41pm

re: #25 jaunte

That dildo is the representative of my district. I apologize.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:40:43pm

The country will heal when Trump and his terrorists are prosecuted.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:42:48pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:43:37pm

re: #31 Ace Rothstein

The country will heal when Trump and his terrorists are prosecuted.

“Don’t cut that cancer out. You will just piss off the other cancers”.
Wut? Unity would have more meaning if these very same guys had not suppressed votes and burdened any and all progressives as the economic and the moral death of the country just by way of mere existence.

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A Mom Anon  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:43:40pm

re: #31 Ace Rothstein

There have to be consequences for this. Severe ones. Maximum sentences. If we don’t do that this will continue happening until they destroy everything. They don’t love America, they hate it, and over half the population. That’s not patriotic, it’s exactly the opposite.

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thecommodore  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:45:23pm

re: #31 Ace Rothstein

The country will heal when Trump and his terrorists are prosecuted.

Along with those who profited from all this.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:46:21pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:46:25pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:47:39pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:47:41pm

re: #29 jaunte

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These GOPer calls for “unity and healing” are disgusting in their effrontery. No unity with traitors, no healing for terrorists.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:49:09pm

So wait, they’re basically saying “if you try to hold us accountable for what we did we’re going to do even worse things”?

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:49:39pm

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:52:45pm

re: #41 Patricia Kayden

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The old traitors are guiltier than the young ones. They not only should know better, they actually raised and indoctrinated the savages.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:56:41pm

Today’s Covid numbers. Missouri, Louisiana, Kansas, Connecticut, Nebraska and Rhode Island not reporting.

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Skandal  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:57:34pm
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thecommodore  Jan 9, 2021 • 5:59:02pm

This are the last two tweets of a thread that Burns may still be adding to. Please read the whole thing and share.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:01:44pm
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thecommodore  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:02:55pm

re: #46 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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LOL Trump supporters were born inflamed.

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thecommodore  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:03:10pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:04:07pm
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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:05:05pm
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Belafon  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:05:16pm
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jaunte  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:05:57pm

Too bad.

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:07:16pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

I’ve always loved this particular piece; the melody is one of the most beautiful in all of classical music, IMO. This is the first time I’ve heard it in a solo cello arrangement, though. It’s incredible.

I first heard in in the original Rollerball. Loved it ever since.

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Chrysicat  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:07:34pm
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A Cranky One  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:07:56pm

re: #47 thecommodore

LOL Trump supporters were born inflamed.

We’re sorry to inform you that the country has covid and a bad case of inflamed trumperoids.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:10:14pm
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Chrysicat  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:15:23pm

re: #56 Patricia Kayden

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Romantic Heretic  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:15:38pm

re: #47 thecommodore

LOL Trump supporters were born inflamed.

Like haemorrhoids.

Except more annoying and painful.

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:19:37pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:21:11pm
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Skandal  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:22:47pm
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jaunte  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:23:17pm

re: #60 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

“We in the incitement-industrial complex are completely innocent of any damage you nasty rioters may have caused!”

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i(m)p(each)(again!)sos  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:23:28pm

Wompety womp womp.

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thecommodore  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:24:22pm

re: #60 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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But is Judge Box Wine sober?

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:27:03pm
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Jay C  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:27:29pm

re: #64 thecommodore

But is Judge Box Wine sober?

In vino veritas?

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:28:07pm

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Charles Johnson  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:28:43pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:30:31pm
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Interesting Times  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:31:53pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:32:20pm

OH HAI LGF!

I was offline all day because of Shabbat. What did I miss?

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i(m)p(each)(again!)sos  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:34:43pm

re: #71 The Pie Overlord!

OH HAI LGF!

I was offline all day because of Shabbat. What did I miss?

Wait till you see what T***p didn’t tweet… ;)

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:35:18pm
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TedStriker  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:36:02pm

re: #71 The Pie Overlord!

OH HAI LGF!

I was offline all day because of Shabbat. What did I miss?

Trump finally got permabanned from Twitter last night and tried evading the ban, getting @POTUS and his campaign handles suspended too…

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Dangerman  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:36:32pm
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jaunte  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:37:29pm

re: #71 The Pie Overlord!

OH HAI LGF!

I was offline all day because of Shabbat. What did I miss?

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:38:36pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:40:47pm

re: #77 jaunte

Insurrection and the encouragement of violence brings the volume way up!! Impeachment brings it down.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:42:00pm
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Interesting Times  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:43:25pm

re: #79 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

It will most likely be return as parler.ru

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Dangerman  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:43:40pm
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jaunte  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:43:46pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:45:59pm
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Dangerman  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:46:33pm

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calm down???
hey ted: see re: #81 Dangerman

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:47:30pm

The only question is will he attend as outgoing POTUS or outgoing VPOTUS?

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:48:56pm

re: #84 Dangerman

This was Ted on January 3, trying to pretend a violent coup attempt wasn’t being organized to attack the Capitol.

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:51:43pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:51:57pm
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Skandal  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:52:52pm
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Patricia Kayden  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:53:04pm
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Jay C  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:53:13pm

re: #85 The Pie Overlord!

The only question is will he attend as outgoing POTUS or outgoing VPOTUS?

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IIRC, it’s traditional for the outgoing VP to swear the incoming one in, in the Senate Chamber.
But if Mikey Flyboy has to be elsewhere, I’m sure they will manage.

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sagehen  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:54:19pm

re: #48 thecommodore

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pretty sure Spike said these things before Twitter even existed.

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:54:21pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 9, 2021 • 6:54:33pm

re: #61 Skandal

“All of you requesting proper table manners are the real terrorists, and should expect more broken plates in retaliation.”

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 9, 2021 • 7:00:40pm

re: #87 jaunte

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I think I saw it posted here, but it’s worth reminding everyone that a calm demeanor and a sonorous voice doesn’t mean it’s possessor isn’t a fascist. Lankford has fooled many people. He’s likely a dominionist.

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(((Archangel1)))  Jan 9, 2021 • 7:02:17pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Jan 9, 2021 • 7:03:19pm

There are times when the division must not be viewed as left and right, black and white but in fact right and wrong. The deal with democracy is we accept the result. The result of the election, the caucus, the legislation, or the veto. in the end we can work for change but we keep the peace when in or out of power.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 9, 2021 • 7:04:52pm
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(((Archangel1)))  Jan 9, 2021 • 7:04:54pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

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Unfair comparison there, Charles.
For all of his many faults, Grima deserves better than to be compared to Pence. /

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2021 • 7:05:22pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 9, 2021 • 7:08:51pm

re: #85 The Pie Overlord!

The only question is will he attend as outgoing POTUS or outgoing VPOTUS?

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 9, 2021 • 7:13:22pm

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thecommodore  Jan 9, 2021 • 7:14:07pm

re: #6 The Ghost of a Flea

Republicans can’t actually de-escalate the situation by admitting error, because their entire culture over decades has been about stoking resentment and demonizing the opposition. You can see each individual trying to gauge if there’s a way to save their branding by finding the exact level of stepping away from Trump then can do without triggering the base.

They can only demand that others de-escalate with the threat of more harm, or create whataboutist chaff.

Dems really have to go on the offensive and make sure no one ever forgets the coup, and all the bullshit that led up to it. Hang it around the GOP’s head like the Civil War was hung around Dems heads.

The GOP is now and forever the Party of Trump.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 9, 2021 • 7:17:17pm

A frantic warning from Michael Moore about more attacks: m.facebook.com

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2021 • 7:18:07pm
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(((Archangel1)))  Jan 9, 2021 • 7:35:00pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 9, 2021 • 7:35:03pm
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Rightwingconspirator  Jan 9, 2021 • 7:38:49pm

Some things never change. If you take a swing at the king, don’t miss. In this case government police.

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2021 • 7:41:34pm
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William Lewis  Jan 9, 2021 • 7:42:36pm

re: #108 Rightwingconspirator

Some things never change. If you take a swing at the king, don’t miss. In this case government police.

or the classic from John Harrington (1561-1612):

Treason doth never prosper: what’s the reason?
Why, if it prosper, none dare call it treason.

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Florida Panhandler  Jan 9, 2021 • 7:46:06pm

re: #60 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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Pirro is only afraid of not being invited to any more cool NYC parties with cool people, just like all the other Fox News trailer trash.

If you read between the lines, she seems more upset they failed in their coup efforts rather than the events leading up to this treachery.

Fuck her and her entire network of liars, con men and lunatics.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 9, 2021 • 7:49:46pm

The Kumbaya-Krowd is now out on Facebook, trying to both-sides everything and minimizing what happened.

And it’s not just Trumpers.

Others are just not willing to hold their relatives/friends accountable.

This is why the Dems in Congress have to push through impeachment, and cast out the bad actors.

A month from now the effort to forget Jan 6th will be in full effect.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 9, 2021 • 7:53:57pm
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Sherlock Hound  Jan 9, 2021 • 7:55:06pm

re: #80 Interesting Times

It will most likely be return as parler.ru

parler.ph

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Florida Panhandler  Jan 9, 2021 • 7:56:10pm

re: #88 Dread Pirate Ron

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Don’t believe anything until after Jan 20th.

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stpaulbear  Jan 9, 2021 • 7:58:27pm

I’m listening to a Trae Crowder (Liberal Redneck) podcast and he referred to the Capitol attack as ‘fat stupid 9/11’.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2021 • 7:58:55pm

re: #113 Dread Pirate Ron

If the government nationalizes Twitter I will never fucking use it again.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jan 9, 2021 • 8:00:41pm

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 9, 2021 • 8:01:37pm
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jaunte  Jan 9, 2021 • 8:03:37pm
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Dave In Austin  Jan 9, 2021 • 8:04:49pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 9, 2021 • 8:06:56pm

re: #110 William Lewis

or the classic from John Harrington (1561-1612):

In the 20th centuries there are notable examples of failed coups that lead to successful coups down the road. Most notably, the Beerhall Putsch. None dare call it treason is a correct assessment of what happens in monarchies, but it’s four centuries later it’s a trope not an accurate description. The really important thing that’s different is that “treason” used to just be about the king and his law enforcement’s reading of the concept, but in modern states the concept becomes more fractured and nuanced because there will be people who have franchise but view the intentions of the coup-maker as valid. What is happening right now is an authoritarian faction that likes the goals of the insurrection trying to keep distance from culpability, but also rehabilitate as much of the coup faction as possible…because they have a future in mind where they can again assert their authoritarian agenda and the coup faction (including their inclination toward violence and their apathy toward harming fellow citizens) has utility.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 9, 2021 • 8:07:52pm

re: #100 jaunte

I don’t believe that Republican voters will hold voting against impeachment (House) or conviction (Senate) against Representatives or Senators.
Do we have any polls showing that the majority of the Republican base has abandoned Trump because of the sedition on Wednesday?

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2021 • 8:09:50pm

“…A seeming fortress from a distance, the Capitol contains more than 400 separate doors, entryways and ground-level windows. And police lines on all sides of the building were collapsing.

[Maxine] Waters placed an urgent call to Sund, who was at Capitol police headquarters two blocks away, two law enforcement officials said.

Protesters were already crossing the plaza. “What are you going to do about it?” Waters asked. “We’re doing the best we can,” came Sund’s reply, she said, and then the line went dead.

Waters was unsure if the call had dropped or if Sund hung up. She turned to a staffer: “That’s not a plan.”
washingtonpost.com

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 9, 2021 • 8:10:07pm

re: #107 Dread Pirate Ron

But then after their aides did all of that, several Republicans still voted against certifying the electoral college votes. 🤷🏽‍♀️

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2021 • 8:11:16pm

re: #123 Patricia Kayden

I agree, not currently. They may be aware of much worse information that’s yet to be made public, though.

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Jack Burton  Jan 9, 2021 • 8:11:30pm

re: #79 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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I’m curious if he actually believes this shit and doesn’t get that you can’t just let people plan crimes and treason on your site and not stop them, or if he’s complicit.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jan 9, 2021 • 8:11:55pm

re: #118 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Thats my favorite meme all week. Perfect.

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mmmirele  Jan 9, 2021 • 8:11:55pm

re: #125 Patricia Kayden

But then after their aides did all of that, several Republicans still voted against certifying the electoral college votes. 🤷🏽‍♀️

My fucktard of a congressman refused to wear a mask in the secure room! Andy Biggs is a horrible, horrible person.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2021 • 8:12:51pm

So if Trump gets impeached and the Senate doesn’t do anything until after 1/21, does that mean they no longer have to vote to convict or acquit?

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 9, 2021 • 8:14:04pm

re: #109 jaunte

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BeachDem  Jan 9, 2021 • 8:17:29pm

re: #54 Chrysicat

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And with all the “poor Nikki, she was once such a shining star” bullshit in that thread, at least a few of them get it, like this guy.

Nikki is, was, and always has been a not very bright, lying opportunist. And I am so sick of hearing accolades about how wonderful she was after the Charleston massacre about taking down the traitor flag (and the PTSD poor Nikki suffered—sniff) when just a few months earlier…

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A hollow voice says, 25th my ass, impeach!  Jan 9, 2021 • 8:21:04pm

re: #88 Dread Pirate Ron

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Perhaps they’re not aware that the decisions of the DT DOJ will be moot in 12 days?

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 9, 2021 • 8:27:15pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jan 9, 2021 • 8:29:08pm

re: #104 Hecuba’s daughter

A frantic warning from Michael Moore about more attacks: m.facebook.com

I think Moore is right about this. If Trump is still in office the morning of the 20th, his goons in the Pentagon can sabotage the military response just as they did on the 6th. The Capitol and DC police will be on their own.
On the plus side, there are more armed citizens in DC than the MAGAts realize. They should be prepared to defend their homes and neighborhoods from racist marauders. This wasn’t a factor on the 6th because the violence was confined to the Capitol. That will not be the case on the 20th. Elsewhere, armed liberals and Democrats should be prepared to engage the seditionists wherever they present a threat. There will be hordes of them. Many, but not all, law enforcement officers will be on their side. Be careful, maintain situational awareness, and maintain tight cover. DO NOT GO INTO THE STREET TO CONFRONT THEM.

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 9, 2021 • 8:31:25pm

re: #135 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

This country is finished if there are more terrorist attacks like what we saw on Wednesday. What you’re describing is a civil war. I hope the police do their jobs and don’t depend on citizens to fight the racist hordes for them.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 9, 2021 • 8:35:23pm
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Chrysicat  Jan 9, 2021 • 8:35:42pm

Saw “Madrid’s largest snowfall” trending, searched “because of global warming”.

Thankfully, don’t think I saw anyone actually putting that sarcasm out there for Madrid, but I did see this and feel compelled to respond:

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Chrysicat  Jan 9, 2021 • 8:37:29pm

re: #135 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

I think Moore is right about this. If Trump is still in office the morning of the 20th, his goons in the Pentagon can sabotage the military response just as they did on the 6th. The Capitol and DC police will be on their own.
On the plus side, there are more armed citizens in DC than the MAGAts realize. They should be prepared to defend their homes and neighborhoods from racist marauders. This wasn’t a factor on the 6th because the violence was confined to the Capitol. That will not be the case on the 20th. Elsewhere, armed liberals and Democrats should be prepared to engage the seditionists wherever they present a threat. There will be hordes of them. Many, but not all, law enforcement officers will be on their side. Be careful, maintain situational awareness, and maintain tight cover. DO NOT GO INTO THE STREET TO CONFRONT THEM.

What should someone who’s never shot a handgun, and last shot any firearm 30 years ago at Scout camp, do, especially when they live in the most Confederate-aligned county in their entire very-Union (or at least Pacifican) state?

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 9, 2021 • 8:38:56pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 9, 2021 • 8:42:26pm
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jaunte  Jan 9, 2021 • 8:43:53pm
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jan 9, 2021 • 8:49:04pm

re: #139 Chrysicat

What should someone who’s never shot a handgun, and last shot any firearm 30 years ago at Scout camp, do, especially when they live in the most Confederate-aligned county in their entire very-Union (or at least Pacifican) state?

Stay indoors and out of sight, pay attention to local news, contact trustworthy neighbors and find out what resources they may have. Discourage any rash action on their part. It is likely that many National Guard, and some regular, units will disobey pro-coup instructions from the Pentagon. It may be possible to contact them with information. State police will be more reliable than locals and much more reliable than Republican sheriffs. The latter should be considered part of the MAGAt forces until shown otherwise.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 9, 2021 • 8:51:43pm
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William Lewis  Jan 9, 2021 • 8:56:31pm

What all decent Americans should think:

“When I joined the militia I had promised myself to kill one Fascist — after all, if each of us killed one they would soon be extinct.”

Homage to Catalonia:
George Orwell

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2021 • 8:57:31pm
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retired cynic  Jan 9, 2021 • 8:59:51pm

re: #146 jaunte

Guess what color Bryant is?

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Patricia Kayden  Jan 9, 2021 • 9:00:11pm

re: #146 jaunte

Just watched an official on MSNBC state that Biden’s DOJ can up the charges and sentence.

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William Lewis  Jan 9, 2021 • 9:00:17pm

Another Orwell quote:
“I am well aware that it is now the fashion to deny that Socialism has anything to do with equality. In every country in the world a huge tribe of party-hacks and sleek little professors are busy ‘proving’ that Socialism means no more than a planned state-capitalism with the grab-motive left intact. But fortunately there also exists a vision of Socialism quite different from this. The thing that attracts ordinary men to Socialism and makes them willing to risk their skins for it, the ‘mystique’ of ‘Socialism, is the idea of equality; to the vast majority of people Socialism means a classless society, or it means nothing at all. And it was here that those few months in the militia were valuable to me. For the Spanish militias, while they lasted, were a sort of microcosm of a classless society. In that community where no one was on the make, where there was a shortage of everything but no privilege and no boot-licking, one got, perhaps, a crude forecast of what the opening stages of Socialism might be like. And, after all, instead of disillusioning me it deeply attracted me. The effect was to make my desire to see Socialism established much more actual than it had been before. Partly, perhaps, this was due to the good luck of being among Spaniards, who, with their innate decency and their ever-present Anarchist tinge, would make even the opening stages of Socialism tolerable if they had the chance.”

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2021 • 9:00:28pm
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William Lewis  Jan 9, 2021 • 9:04:21pm

One more from Orwell while I’m in the mood:
“I have no particular love for the idealised “worker” as he appears in the bourgeois Communist’s mind, but when I see an actual flesh-and-blood worker in conflict with his natural enemy, the policeman, I do not have to ask myself which side I am on.”

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jaunte  Jan 9, 2021 • 9:04:43pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 9, 2021 • 9:05:43pm
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Dave In Austin  Jan 9, 2021 • 9:11:51pm

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2021 • 9:21:12pm
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jaunte  Jan 9, 2021 • 9:21:24pm
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jaunte  Jan 9, 2021 • 9:23:41pm
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DodgerFan1988  Jan 9, 2021 • 9:33:20pm
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 9, 2021 • 9:36:45pm

Looks like Pakistan is experiencing a nationwide power blackout:

A failure in Pakistan’s national power grid left more than 200 million people without electricity Saturday, local officials said.

The widespread blackout happened just before midnight, plunging the major cities of Karachi, Lahore, Islamabad and Peshawar into darkness, Energy Minister Omar Ayub said. He added that mobile and Internet services also were affected.

Ayub said the power grid failed after high transmission lines tripped, causing the frequency in the distribution system to drop suddenly from 50 to zero. Officials said it could take several hours for power to be restored.

upi.com

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2021 • 9:37:43pm

There’s this Spanish show on HBO called “30 Coins” (for some reason the name is in English). It seems to be a paranormal show, and it’s pretty good and creepy.

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Targetpractice  Jan 9, 2021 • 9:45:47pm

“Look, we’re still telling our base that you stole the election! We’re gonna keep telling them that Trump would have won if only ‘legal votes’ had been counted! We’re going to insist that what went on in this election was ‘unconstitutional’! And we’re going to keep repeating all this as long as it keeps our base in a frothing rage! BUT YOU NEED TO BE THE ONE TO START THE HEALING PROCESS BY LETTING US GET AWAY WITH ALL THIS!!!”

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 9, 2021 • 9:55:11pm

re: #161 Targetpractice

Yeah…a man beats his wife then for the sake of the family she’s never allowed to bring it up again…or else. And just like in bad marriages, there’s third parties that constantly repeat that the status quo is the right thing—generally having a knowledge of the interior of the situation they’re criticized about as deep as “sitcom marriage tropes” and “it is tradition”—that you have to stay in because think of what will be lost.

And eventually the gambler’s fallacy that it can’t go lethally wrong, with no warning signs, is disproved.

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Chrysicat  Jan 9, 2021 • 9:55:30pm

re: #160 Belafon

There’s this Spanish show on HBO called “30 Coins” (for some reason the name is in English). It seems to be a paranormal show, and it’s pretty good and creepy.

Of course it’s a paranormal show.

Specifically, I’m guessing that either the protagonist or the big-bad is Judas Iscariot.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 9, 2021 • 9:57:55pm

re: #163 Chrysicat

Of course it’s a paranormal show.

Specifically, I’m guessing that either the protagonist or the big-bad is Judas Iscariot.

Maybe the real Judas Iscariot is the friends they make along the way.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 9, 2021 • 10:02:49pm

A Trumpster FB friend posted how she didn’t understand how Trump could be banned but the Ayatollahs retain their account. I didn’t respond that Trump was doing more to damage this nation than any Ayatollah but was sorely tempted. She was also the one to accuse Antifa of the attack on the Capitol. I’m not sure how we are going to survive the 10.5 days till the Biden inauguration.

I suspect that Parler is a big fan of section 230 to protect them from criminal charges.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 9, 2021 • 10:08:33pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 9, 2021 • 10:10:18pm

Meanwhile, over in Brexitland, the Disunited Kingdom is finding their new fangled sovereignty a bit in a mess:

BREXIT: NORTHERN IRELAND-BRITAIN SUPPLY CHAIN AT RISK OF COLLAPSE, HAULIERS WARN

The supply chain between the North and the rest of the United Kingdom is a “boat breakdown” away from collapse as a result of the post-Brexit regulatory border, the UK’s Road Haulage Association (RHA) has warned the British government.

[…]

The new rules have left some shelves empty this week as supermarkets struggle to import fresh goods from Britain and manufacturers have reported Northern Irish-bound trucks being unable to cross the Irish Sea due to difficulties with customs declarations.

The RHA said raw material supply lines from Britain had also been restricted due to the regulatory changes and that factories had already reported serious supply chain issues, including failures to supply retail contracts.

[…]

Burnett also cautioned that the Covid-19 lockdown that will keep Northern Ireland’s hospitality sector and non-essential retailers shut for another month is “simply masking a crisis in the supply chain to food service and hospitality.”

[…]

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2021 • 10:22:36pm

John Cole is making a good point:

One of the enduring lies of the last four years is that Trump speaks for the downtrodden and disfranchised. This has never been true. Sure, there are a lot of racist poor people who vote for him, but as the arrests are pouring in from the McRib Rebellion, you are seeing Trump’s true base. Middle and Upper middle class white people with means.

Go read the rest.

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Targetpractice  Jan 9, 2021 • 10:23:55pm

re: #162 The Ghost of a Flea

Yeah…a man beats his wife then for the sake of the family she’s never allowed to bring it up again…or else. And just like in bad marriages, there’s third parties that constantly repeat that the status quo is the right thing—generally having a knowledge of the interior of the situation they’re criticized about as deep as “sitcom marriage tropes” and “it is tradition”—that you have to stay in because think of what will be lost.

And eventually the gambler’s fallacy that it can’t go lethally wrong, with no warning signs, is disproved.

For the last four years, the man has been beating his wife regularly, but his family and friends have been asking (read: pressuring) her to keep it quiet and hide the bruises/scars because making it public would hurt the family and he’s such a prominent figure in the community that it could cause all sorts of trouble in town.

Well in the last year, word got around about the abuse and he’s not only refused to deny it, he’s actually argued that it’s his duty as a husband to “keep her in line.” That if he can’t vent his anger, then it will hurt the community as a whole. And two months ago, the community decided enough was enough and voted to kick his ass out of office. Well, he riled up his friends over the election, told them that his wife must have gone public about the abuse, and that they needed to “fix” that. Which they did…by beating her half to death in public and only stopping when the cops escorted them away.

So, how did his family respond? They’re angry with him, but only because his friends talked about kicking their asses too for not doing enough to keep him in office. And they’re reserving most of their anger for the wife for pressing charges against him for the abuse and inciting his friends to attack her. To top it all off, they have the audacity to suggest that she’s the one at fault for all this and that the only way she can “make amends” is to let him walk away from the marriage without facing consequences.

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Odie Hugh Manatee  Jan 9, 2021 • 10:27:15pm

re: #21 Ace Rothstein

If blacks did it, there would be morgue trucks parked all the way into Virginia to pick up the dead bodies.

When I wrote DeFazio & Wyden that evening after the insurrection had been put down, I told them that if it had been black people attacking that there would be piles of bodies all over the place. The fact that there were off-duty police among the insurrectionists is no surprise to me. White supremacists have pretty much taken over many police departments, allowing them to abuse anyone that isn’t white.

They chose to take down the American flag that flies over the Capitol and hoist the flag of the man that they have sworn loyalty to. Anyone who continues to excuse their attack on our nation needs to be named and shamed. If they are in Congress, they need to be expelled.

Right now.

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2021 • 10:29:45pm

So, the reason the insurrectionists are planning on wreaking havoc on the 17th: Because Q is the 17th letter of the alphabet.

emptywheel.net

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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 9, 2021 • 10:31:45pm

re: #168 Belafon

John Cole is making a good point:

Go read the rest.

That’s certainly my experience — the fanatics of my acquaintance were generally well educated and held responsible positions in companies or ran their own business. They were not poor or down-trodden, but most are racist.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 9, 2021 • 10:34:53pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2021 • 10:40:32pm

re: #173 Dread Pirate Ron

You mean a loud, misogynistic, bloviating asshole strongly appealed to loud, misogynistic, bloviating assholes?

I never would have guessed.

///

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Targetpractice  Jan 9, 2021 • 10:40:54pm

re: #173 Dread Pirate Ron

[Embedded content]

Shorter tweet: “Trump ran on being a bully and the only way any Republican can hope to take his place is to be a bully. Appealing to voters with focus-group words and making his cruelty sound kind is not going to do it.”

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 9, 2021 • 10:42:42pm

re: #174 Eclectic Cyborg

You mean a loud, misogynistic, bloviating asshole strongly appealed to loud, misogynistic, bloviating assholes?

I never would have guessed.

///

The press never guessed. They still haven’t figured it out.

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piratedan  Jan 9, 2021 • 10:45:05pm

re: #174 Eclectic Cyborg

i think a huge part of his appeal is he was a seemingly successful nationally known person telling them that because they were white, racist, anti-intellectual people and it was perfectly acceptable for them to expect to be treated as lords over all that they could see. After all, Trump had lived that life and by that he meant that he’d lied, raped, cheated his way thru life and anyone else who behaved differently was a sucker who should be taken advantage of.

Hard to not see why it was so appealing to so many people lacking character or ethics.

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2021 • 10:53:05pm
Researchers from Australia’s Swinburne University of Technology, Monash University, and RMIT University have demonstrated the world’s fastest, most powerful optical neuromorphic processor for artificial intelligence. The processor operates at a rate of more than 10 trillion operations per second, over 1,000 times faster than any previous processor, and can process ultra-large-scale data. The processor incorporates integrated “optical micro-combs” comprised of hundreds of high-quality infrared lasers on a single chip. Said Monash’s Xingyuan Xu, “We’re currently getting a sneak-peak of how the processors of the future will look. It’s really showing us how dramatically we can scale the power of our processors through the innovative use of microcombs.”

swinburne.edu.au

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Belafon  Jan 9, 2021 • 10:55:44pm
Swiss-based software engineer Tillie Kottmann said Nissan North America’s misconfiguration of a Bitbucket Git server led to the online leakage of the automaker’s source code for its mobile applications and internal tools. Kottmann said the repository was left exposed on the Internet with its default username and admin/admin password combination; Nissan took it offline after the source code began circulating on Monday in the form of torrent links shared on Telegram channels and hacking forums. A Nissan spokesperson said, “We are aware of a claim regarding a reported improper disclosure of Nissan’s confidential information and source code. We take this type of matter seriously and are conducting an investigation.”

zdnet.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 9, 2021 • 10:56:22pm

re: #177 piratedan

Abso-freaking-lutely.

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Targetpractice  Jan 9, 2021 • 11:00:30pm

You look at statements from Repubs in the last 72 hours over the Million Moron March and you quickly get the impression that they’re only angry at Trump for putting their lives in danger. They’re not rejecting him or his works, they’re not suggesting that their support for him these past 4 years was a bad call on their part, and they certainly are not suggesting that he held accountable. They just think he’s an asshole for taking the anger they thought they could tap for political gain and using it to create a lynch mob that was as willing to injure or kill them as it was Dems.

And they especially think that once he leaves on the 20th, that people will forgive and forget as they have in the past and the clock will reset such that they can spin Biden as the greatest threat to the nation evah.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 9, 2021 • 11:08:26pm
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DodgerFan1988  Jan 9, 2021 • 11:10:23pm
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Hecuba's daughter  Jan 9, 2021 • 11:10:27pm

re: #181 Targetpractice

….
And they especially think that once he leaves on the 20th, that people will forgive and forget as they have in the past and the clock will reset such that they can spin Biden as the greatest threat to the nation evah.

As we say, Americans have the memory of a gnat. Part of it may be we look forward and not back to the past, which can have some societal benefits. But in general, it means the average American is clueless about what happens outside their personal life and most don’t really care if it doesn’t impact them directly. But the coronavirus was a big impact and the major reason that Trump lost the election. And he and the GOP still don’t care. The refusal of the GOP members of Congress to wear masks during the siege was a disgrace — and placed innocent people in jeopardy. Let’s hope the nation survives this interlude with the “reality star” President and it’s not a prelude to future disasters.

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Jebediah, RBG  Jan 9, 2021 • 11:57:16pm

re: #112 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The Kumbaya-Krowd is now out on Facebook, trying to both-sides everything and minimizing what happened.

And it’s not just Trumpers.

Others are just not willing to hold their relatives/friends accountable.

This is why the Dems in Congress have to push through impeachment, and cast out the bad actors.

A month from now the effort to forget Jan 6th will be in full effect.

For me, it’s gonna take a hell of a long time to forget the murderous rage I was feeling for hours.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 10, 2021 • 12:06:42am
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The Ghost of a Flea  Jan 10, 2021 • 12:10:10am

Well, if there’s one thing the chattering class isn’t going to do, it’s concede that moderately wealthy white people that like their op-ed pages can be and often are pig-fucking stupid and have a neither-fun-nor-safe interests in power and control over other people.

I live with these people—they should be my tribe, by birthright, but I’m weird and multiculty so they just try and get me to come to parties to be the interesting guy—and they are fucking awful. It’s hard to explain how a wee bit of material success just makes the parts of their brains shut off. They can’t empathize because they have no imagination, they can’t self-examine because the flee self awarness, they cleave to petty power/control games because those don’t require thought or creativity.

Trumpism isn’t an ideology, it’s more like a subconscious attraction to the superficial and the small-spirited, treated as the height of human experience. That which can’t be owned or dominated is upsetting, so everything has to be made hollow and vacuous. If an idea demands a change of perspective, or threatens with the sublime, then it has to be butchered and its innards scooped out, leaving only a manifold to fill with more self-importance and banality.

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Ming5000  Jan 10, 2021 • 12:10:44am

I am enjoying the wider outcry about Trump’s most complicit toadies.
Forbes had an article stating that any company that hires them will be considered to be lying.
I see that Project Lincoln is compiling a database of those complicit so their ongoing professional activities can be tracked and they are not able to hide their Trumpian past.

then, this made me smile:

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Ming5000  Jan 10, 2021 • 12:13:17am

re: #187 The Ghost of a Flea

Thank you for this: “subconscious attraction to the superficial and the small-spirited,”

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Danack  Jan 10, 2021 • 12:34:31am

So apparently Parler was spending about $300,000 a month on AWS hosting…

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Dread Pirate Ron  Jan 10, 2021 • 12:40:15am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 10, 2021 • 12:40:56am
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ericblair  Jan 10, 2021 • 1:38:27am

Some background from a lawyer in the field about whether any of the traitors can be tried in courts martial (TLDR: it’s complicated). I doubt this will be a real factor unless they were in active duty, but good to know.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 10, 2021 • 1:47:23am
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 10, 2021 • 2:06:48am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2021 • 2:06:49am

re: #28 jaunte

And they’re petrified about losing the deranged lunatic vote.

without it the GOP have no majority.

but people like Pence have seen the price they must pay to keep it on their side.

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BigPapa  Jan 10, 2021 • 2:08:14am

A friend wrote this:

Remember, remember, the sixth of the first
With the counting of votes interrupted.
When Gosar and Cruz made a baseless objection
And Trump’s insurrection erupted.
The day was historically one of tradition
Until there were calls for an act of sedition.
A mob would descend upon Capitol Hill
And attempt to subvert the electorate’s will.
Remember, remember, the sixth of the first
When Fourty Five’s treasonous army was birthed.
They’d festered and lingered for half a decade
And christened themselves with a Capitol raid.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2021 • 2:10:01am

re: #47 thecommodore

LOL Trump supporters were born inflamed.

I will repeat that I grew up in the industrial Midwest during what was truly the Golden Age of the working class white male: no end of well-paid jobs with benefits for anyone with a basic education who was willing to work hard.

And they were every bit as racist and xenophobic back then as they are now.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jan 10, 2021 • 2:10:04am
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Dr Lizardo  Jan 10, 2021 • 2:16:26am

Saw this and LOLd:

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Targetpractice  Jan 10, 2021 • 2:17:41am

re: #198 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I will repeat that I grew up in the industrial Midwest during what was truly the Golden Age of the working class white male: no end of well-paid jobs with benefits for anyone with a basic education who was willing to work hard.

And they were every bit as racist and xenophobic back then as they are now.

One of the greatest myths of the last four years has been expressed in two words: “economic anxiety.” This nation is in a far worse state economically than it was four years ago, contrary to the Cult of the Magic Line (aka stock market) insisting that it’s never been better because their stock portfolios are flush. Millions are jobless, many in fields that simply are never coming back or will take years to recover. Many of them only retain homes because of moratoriums on evictions, which only further hurting the economy by leaving landlords and property management companies without income.

And yet, the party we were told doesn’t care for those suffering from “economic anxiety” just had their candidate win the presidency by the highest vote total in electoral history. Even with four years of whining that Dems weren’t doing enough to reach out to “the working class,” they pulled in a larger majority of the population than the supposed “man of the working class.”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2021 • 2:21:39am

re: #173 Dread Pirate Ron

Republicans who want to run as the “intellectual Trump” or the “normal Trump” are completely missing the point.

Trump ran on being the anti-intellectual, anti-normal candidate. The candidate who spoke for every random idiot on the street who doesn’t know anything.

He also ran as the anti-politician, the “successful businessman” who was everything any experienced politician was not.

And in our New Media Reality, the total lack of a record of public service means you can promise anything, while a long record of public service can be cherry-picked and selectively used against you

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 10, 2021 • 2:23:12am

The Sunday political shows will probably trot out all Republicans, with their newly-minted Big Lie talking point straight from GOP Talking Points, Inc. “It’s too divisive to impeach the President; Democrats are trying to divide the nation.”

TV pundits will nod sagely. All will agree, this sad situation is the fault of Democrats.

When a Republican fuques up, you must have Republicans on to explain why that happened. When a Democrat fuques up, you must have a Republican on to explain why that happened.

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BigPapa  Jan 10, 2021 • 2:28:39am

Anybody who thinks it’s 2021 yet, we’re still in 2020. It’s just Penalty Time.

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BigPapa  Jan 10, 2021 • 2:30:21am

Calls for unity are cries for leniency.

In the words of the great statesman Tom ‘Cottonmouth’ Cotton: ‘No Quarter’

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 10, 2021 • 2:34:00am

Their brains are going into a full reactor explosion:

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BigPapa  Jan 10, 2021 • 2:39:31am

re: #206 Dr Lizardo

WTF is a ‘revelator?’

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Targetpractice  Jan 10, 2021 • 2:43:19am

re: #203 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The Sunday political shows will probably trot out all Republicans, with their newly-minted Big Lie talking point straight from GOP Talking Points, Inc. “It’s too divisive to impeach the President; Democrats are trying to divide the nation.”

TV pundits will nod sagely. All will agree, this sad situation is the fault of Democrats.

When a Republican fuques up, you must have Republicans on to explain why that happened. When a Democrat fuques up, you must have a Republican on to explain why that happened.

See, this is why I could never be a journalist, because I’d have video cued up of whichever Repub gets booked of them saying only a year ago to impeachment “let the voters decide” followed by a clip of them in the last two months bellowing about “legal votes” and “return the vote to the legislatures,” before asking them to explain why they wanted the voters to “decide” a year ago and now don’t think the voters can be trusted. And how that distrust of the voters, of arguing that their votes cannot possibly be valid because Trump lost, is not divisive but impeaching a man who whipped up a lynch mob for the purpose of overturning the will of the voters is.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 10, 2021 • 2:49:25am

re: #207 BigPapa

WTF is a ‘revelator?’

I have no idea, because unfortunately, I don’t speak WARGLBARGL batshit insane.

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Nyet  Jan 10, 2021 • 2:55:05am

re: #207 BigPapa

WTF is a ‘revelator?’

Someone who gets revelations. This concept is also employed by the Mormons, where their President is the prophet, seer, and revelator.

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Greup  Jan 10, 2021 • 2:57:58am

re: #207 BigPapa

Dunno but it seems to be a term best expressed by the use of primitive drumming, a nasty guitar and some screaming.

The White Stripes Live @ Rock Am- Cannon/John the Revelator

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BigPapa  Jan 10, 2021 • 3:00:39am

I’m confident that the dissonance about Limbaugh and Both Sides posture of the media somehow led us to the failed coup on 1-6 but don’t have the energy to write a Tetris locked tome linking it all together. It will take a Marshall Plan to ensure this sickness is cured otherwise this will rebound in 5-10 years and could be worse.

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Targetpractice  Jan 10, 2021 • 3:03:35am

Personally, considering that some of those assaulted on Wednesday included journalists, (including cases of equipment being smashed by angry “patriots”), I’m not so sure that they will uniformly go along with the Repub “We need to heal and impeachment will only make things worse!” talking point. I certainly expect Chuck Todd to look for a BSAB path because he hasn’t the gonads to confront a Repub in any meaningful way, but I think we might find ourselves surprised by the reception to such talking points by the Usual Suspects later this morning.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2021 • 3:13:00am

re: #207 BigPapa

WTF is a ‘revelator?’

someone who heeds the voices they hear in their heads, or at least claims to…

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thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2021 • 3:15:17am

re: #210 Nyet

Someone who gets revelations. This concept is also employed by the Mormons, where their President is the prophet, seer, and revelator.

In Christian circles, the usual use of the word is in the phrase “Saint John the Revelator”, as in, the title of the man who wrote the book of Revelations.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2021 • 3:15:48am

I still run across the “Antifa False Flag” assault spins.

So the Capitol police who let them in were in cahoots with Nancy Pelosi and Antifa?

That is quite a reach there.

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Nyet  Jan 10, 2021 • 3:16:51am

Revelator 2000.

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Nyet  Jan 10, 2021 • 3:17:22am

TheDonald

-trump_lsd 7 points 2 hours ago +10 / -3
After the 20th, every single Q shill should be banned for propagating a continual psyop. It has long been known now. Though I hope to eat my words, every day we are inundated with LARPers which lull people into a false sense of hope, which was most likely always the objective of the operation.

-Honora 2 points 1 hour ago +4 / -2
As much as I hope (and genuinely pray) I’m wrong about this, I have to admit that I think you’re right. Before what happened on the 6th, I was damn near banned from here for implying we should be critical of VP Traitor Pence and to question “The Plan”, and at least have a logical skepticism. I had posted something wondering just what if Q was a continued op to give people false hope and discourage people from actually attending rallies and community gatherings to lobby for their country and communities. I wasn’t trying to be a Q doomer necessarily, but I’ve been noticing more and more mental gymnastics when some events haven’t matched the Q drops in a decently explainable way. All of that said though, a lot of the crap that’s been happening lately has coincided with some of the drops in a spooky way.

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Targetpractice  Jan 10, 2021 • 3:18:30am

re: #216 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

I still run across the “Antifa False Flag” assault spins.

So the Capitol police who let them in were in cahoots with Nancy Pelosi and Antifa?

That is quite a reach there.

It’s the usual bit: Anybody who engaged in violent/destructive acts is really “Antifa/BLM” in disguise, and the fact that nobody around them tried to stop them and in many cases encouraged them just means that those people were also “A/BLM”. Oh, and the fact that everybody arrested so far has long history of fanatical devotion to “Q”? Just further proof that the “conspiracy” goes deep.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 10, 2021 • 3:19:21am

re: #218 Nyet

If there’s any positive to that, it’s that at least some of them are now openly asking, “Hey, why do we keep fucking this chicken?”

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Targetpractice  Jan 10, 2021 • 3:20:15am

re: #218 Nyet

TheDonald

They’re almost there, they’re beginning to realize they’ve been played for fools, but they still don’t want to make that leap because it would mean admitting they’re all utter morons.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2021 • 3:20:21am

re: #219 Targetpractice

It’s the usual bit: Anybody who engaged in violent/destructive acts is really “Antifa/BLM” in disguise, and the fact that nobody around them tried to stop them and in many cases encouraged them just means that those people were also “A/BLM”. Oh, and the fact that everybody arrested so far has long history of fanatical devotion to “Q”? Just further proof that the “conspiracy” goes deep.

They tout a You Tube video of someone smashing a window and “patriots” stopping this “Antifa” person.
But yes, all the damage was done by Antifa/BLM, the “patriots” were just caught up in the moment.

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Nyet  Jan 10, 2021 • 3:27:13am

re: #220 Dr Lizardo

Q has never been a favorite of TD denizens.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2021 • 3:30:23am

re: #223 Nyet

Q has never been a favorite of TD denizens.

That’s interesting to me. You’d think that of all places, that would be an absolute breeding ground for Q lunacy.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 10, 2021 • 3:31:47am

re: #223 Nyet

Q has never been a favorite of TD denizens.

Yeah, I think they’re at least smart enough to see it for the ARG it is. The ones who really “trust the plan”, as it were, are the hardcore religious types, the wackadoodle fundies. When “the plan” doesn’t come to fruition, I figure there’s going to be something akin to the Great Disappointment of 1844 (en.wikipedia.org.).

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Nyet  Jan 10, 2021 • 3:32:56am

re: #224 thedopefishlives

That’s interesting to me. You’d think that of all places, that would be an absolute breeding ground for Q lunacy.

It used to be outright banned 2 years ago, though later the ban was lifted.

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Nyet  Jan 10, 2021 • 3:33:39am

re: #224 thedopefishlives

nbcnews.com

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Nyet  Jan 10, 2021 • 3:38:13am

They’re doomed.

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 3:40:32am

re: #228 Nyet

They’re doomed.

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A platform (tech) on an infrastructure (big tech) that will destroy itself.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2021 • 3:40:36am

re: #227 Nyet

Scott Adams, the creator of the Dilbert comic series and an outspoken Trump supporter, recently said the theory was making Trump supporters look like “a bunch of idiots.”

They do a pretty good job of that by themselves.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 10, 2021 • 3:41:02am

In the war on Big Tech they should consult with Jack Ma. Oh, wait.

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Nyet  Jan 10, 2021 • 3:41:23am

Pelosi, the House speaker, had the flags at the Capitol lowered to half-staff in Sicknick’s honor;[196] the flag at the White House was not lowered.[197]

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thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2021 • 3:42:30am

re: #228 Nyet

They’re doomed.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 10, 2021 • 3:42:31am
The House is poised on Monday to introduce an article of impeachment against President Donald Trump for incitement of insurrection, according to Democratic Rep. Ted Lieu, for Trump’s role in violent riot at the US Capitol on Wednesday, when a mob breached the building while seeking to overturn the 2020 presidential election results confirming President-elect Joe Biden as president.

If the House of Representatives initiates the proceedings on Monday, it’ll mark the second time Trump will face an impeachment process during his term as president — and make him the first president to be impeached twice.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell on Friday sent a memo to Senate Republicans outlining how a second Trump trial in the Senate would proceed, saying the Senate would most likely not start till Jan. 19, when the upper chamber goes back in session.

cnet.com

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thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2021 • 3:46:16am

So earlier this week, there was discussion about Google and Apple removing Parler’s app from their app stores. Sure, it makes it less convenient, but the website itself is still there. Well, that won’t be true much longer, as Amazon is removing their hosting from AWS.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2021 • 3:53:06am

Also, I empathize so hard with all of this. I was one of these, too.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2021 • 3:53:55am

For House Republicans, the impeachment bill will be the last lifeboat. They can clamber in and take their chances on running seas, or they can zip-tie themselves to the handrails. Most will choose to go down with Trump.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 10, 2021 • 3:55:52am

re: #237 Decatur Deb

For House Republicans, the impeachment bill will be the last lifeboat. They can clamber in and take their chances on running seas, or they can zip-tie themselves to the handrails. Most will choose to go down with Trump.

Yeah, I agree that most of them will choose to go down with the Trumptanic.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2021 • 3:56:59am

re: #230 thedopefishlives

Scott Adams, the creator of the Dilbert comic series and an outspoken Trump supporter, recently said the theory was making Trump supporters look like “a bunch of idiots.”

Remember when Newt tried to warn the GOP that Birtherism was an Obama “trap” to make them look like idiots to everyone but themselves?

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2021 • 3:57:19am

re: #238 Dr Lizardo

Yeah, I agree that most of them will choose to go down with the Trumptanic.

May they sink beneath his wisdom like a stone.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2021 • 3:58:10am

re: #239 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Remember when Newt tried to warn the GOP that Birtherism was an Obama “trap” to make them look like idiots to everyone but themselves?

No, but that’s mostly because I ignore everything Newt says because just the prelude, “Newt Gingrich says,” means that what is about to follow will plumb the utter depths of stupidity.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:03:02am

re: #241 thedopefishlives

No, but that’s mostly because I ignore everything Newt says because just the prelude, “Newt Gingrich says,” means that what is about to follow will plumb the utter depths of stupidity.

Newt was basically telling the Birhters that they were acting like idiots and warning them not to let Obama expose that fact in a particularly embarrassing manner, as he did when he finally released his Birth Certificate and they all doubled down to insist that it was a forgery.

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Nyet  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:05:07am

They said Nyet to Newt.

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:06:10am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:08:11am

re: #243 Nyet

They said Nyet to Newt.

Занюта

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Nyet  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:11:15am

re: #245 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Занюта

what

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William Lewis  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:11:20am

re: #206 Dr Lizardo

Their brains are going into a full reactor explosion:

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That level of actual old fashioned blasphemy would be actually quite funny if it wasn’t leading people into violence. Even if you’re a believer or not honey, what’s in _your_ bedroom ain’t God.

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Dangerman  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:13:16am

re: #202 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

He also ran as the anti-politician, the “successful businessman” who was everything any experienced politician was not.

And in our New Media Reality, the total lack of a record of public service means you can promise anything, while a long record of public service can be cherry-picked and selectively used against you

running as the anti politician will only work once if you win and then prove to be incompetent

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:15:02am

Just read on dkos that one of the people who died was a woman who got trampled by other rioters while holding a Gadsden flag. Sounds a bit too funny to be true.

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Dangerman  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:15:02am

re: #205 BigPapa

Calls for unity are cries for leniency.*

In the words of the great statesman Tom ‘Cottonmouth’ Cotton: ‘No Quarter’

*no consequences. ie total abdication of responsibility

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thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:16:40am

re: #249 darthstar

Just read on dkos that one of the people who died was a woman who got trampled by other rioters while holding a Gadsden flag. Sounds a bit too funny to be true.

It does, but it is. There is a photograph of her outside the Capitol with a Gadsden flag, and the manner of her death is on the official record. As opposed to tased-his-own-balls guy, where apparently (from discussion held on Friday) the jury is still out on where he actually hit himself, but the theories all agree that he hit himself with his own taser and died from a heart attack.

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Nyet  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:17:17am

re: #251 thedopefishlives

but not in the balls

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Dangerman  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:17:47am

re: #219 Targetpractice

It’s the usual bit: Anybody who engaged in violent/destructive acts is really “Antifa/BLM” in disguise, and the fact that nobody around them tried to stop them and in many cases encouraged them just means that those people were also “A/BLM”. Oh, and the fact that everybody arrested so far has long history of fanatical devotion to “Q”? Just further proof that the “conspiracy” goes deep.

violence=antifa
democrat=leftist socialist communist etc

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:19:24am
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thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:19:28am

re: #252 Nyet

but not in the balls

That’s what I was getting at. Has there been an official report on that yet?

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Nyet  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:22:41am

re: #255 thedopefishlives

That’s what I was getting at. Has there been an official report on that yet?

I dunno, but the balls thing was documented to have started from a joke, so.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:23:34am

re: #256 Nyet

I dunno, but the balls thing was documented to have started from a joke, so.

OK, I missed that. That’s fair then. I will stop laughing.

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Nyet  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:24:01am

re: #254 darthstar

No need to join that dumpster to read it.

parler.com

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BigPapa  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:24:09am

re: #256 Nyet

I dunno, but the balls thing was documented to have started from a joke, so.

Do you have the balls to accept the truth?

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:24:16am

re: #255 thedopefishlives

That’s what I was getting at. Has there been an official report on that yet?

Tased in the groin area…so balls because it’s funny.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:25:18am
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Nyet  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:25:50am
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darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:26:17am

re: #258 Nyet

No need to join that dumpster to read it.

parler.com

Oh, so that’s new. They really have just opened the door.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:26:48am

re: #125 Patricia Kayden

But then after their aides did all of that, several Republicans still voted against certifying the electoral college votes. 🤷🏽‍♀️

Including my Republicypher representative.

I’m half-tempted to file to run against him, except the filing fee in Nebraska is prohibitive to my budget, and you are not allowed to fundraise for it.

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Nyet  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:27:18am

re: #263 darthstar

??

It was always open.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:30:01am

re: #247 William Lewis

That level of actual old fashioned blasphemy would be actually quite funny if it wasn’t leading people into violence. Even if you’re a believer or not honey, what’s in _your_ bedroom ain’t God.

The Immaculate Deception.

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Dangerman  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:30:26am

re: #251 thedopefishlives

It does, but it is. There is a photograph of her outside the Capitol with a Gadsden flag, and the manner of her death is on the official record. As opposed to tased-his-own-balls guy, where apparently (from discussion held on Friday) the jury is still out on where he actually hit himself, but the theories all agree that he hit himself with his own taser and died from a heart attack.

still a pathetic own goal from people who thought they were about to actually take over a country

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:32:33am

re: #260 darthstar

Tased in the groin area…so balls because it’s funny.

A 10,000v groin-zap does not demand a high degree of precision.

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:34:24am

re: #265 Nyet

??

It was always open.

I though it required an account. Never bothered to look.

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Dangerman  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:35:21am

Rep. Peter Meijer (R-MI), the Republican successor to the retiring Libertarian Justin Amash, told Reason he blamed many of his Republican colleagues for the violence at the U.S. Capitol this week because they misled the rioters.

Said Meijer: “They were being lied to. They were being misled. Some of my colleagues in Congress, they share responsibility for that. Many of them were fundraising off of this Stop the Steal grift.”

He added: “I don’t understand how you can look in the mirror and go to sleep at night without that weighing on your conscience, I fundamentally do not. I’m just at a loss for words about how some of them have acted in ways that are just knowingly, provably false. And they know they’re lying, too.”

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Dangerman  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:39:16am

more

threatened into committing sedition
they had to threaten for support because the organizers knew it was all based on lies otherwise

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Dangerman  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:42:11am

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Dangerman  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:43:43am

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Dangerman  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:47:42am
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Dangerman  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:48:08am
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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:48:48am

re: #273 Dangerman

Wolverton there went to Sturmer Academy of Art.

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Axolotl  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:49:40am

re: #136 Patricia Kayden

This country is finished if there are more terrorist attacks like what we saw on Wednesday. What you’re describing is a civil war. I hope the police do their jobs and don’t depend on citizens to fight the racist hordes for them.

I agree. Ship that is civil war.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:52:25am

re: #168 Belafon

John Cole is making a good point:

Go read the rest.

That is a very good point indeed. The hinterland gentry, as I have described them, are the heart and soul of the Republican Party. They ARE the Republican establishment they pretend to decry and have been since the 19th century. The small town real estate grubber who took the private non-jet to the riot is a classic example.

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Ming5000  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:54:05am

Our host clued us in on a new CCJohnson twitter account.

3AD+QSCOfCCyHNLzvsj4BTz3BiBMJ6rYIHi4gYUFFG/P23KKDKWVgM/qzoq01qjHRaiuZAkpglaqjG0WsSnP/q7oN6q7WPjXWi+jFgXZfvdMjbC6c/jWpG2lPLMq88aV0tshcQ0puyv3fEUplWJTPAXXcrcDg6u1JA9kAC6oHUcbOBVVd28qVTRIwGybvkW1KLWQd0Ix6xmQIMcAZohBL4TETOh/8uoQ+Qv+XuY+Dw/zawHWdSrMCBa++CIJMesg

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Thanos  Jan 10, 2021 • 4:57:24am

So I feel bad about a moment of sick humor, an unfortunate streak I’ve had all my life, I truly wish it were not so. My most liked tweet ever was a reply to GOD.

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2021 • 5:00:33am

re: #280 Thanos

So I feel bad about a moment of sick humor, an unfortunate streak I’ve had all my life, I truly wish it were not so. My most liked tweet ever was a reply to GOD.

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I am at peace with my inner twelve-year-old.

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ericblair  Jan 10, 2021 • 5:05:25am

A little reminder for everyone: if you know of anybody who showed up to the riots, talked about going, or materially supported them, who has a security clearance, time to drop a dime on them to the FBI.

As the guy says, the government historically really never gave a shit about anti-government activities (because most of the activities of the Republican Party in the last forty years count as this, frankly). However, if your wife grew up in Canada and her family’s still there, expect a grilling from the clearance investigators. The clearance system in the US is fucked up.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jan 10, 2021 • 5:11:26am

re: #168 Belafon

John Cole is making a good point:

Go read the rest.

This comment nails it:

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steve_davis  Jan 10, 2021 • 5:11:58am

re: #207 BigPapa

WTF is a ‘revelator?’

it’s funny you should ask:

Gillian Welch - Time (The Revelator)

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William Lewis  Jan 10, 2021 • 5:14:52am

Sigh… How it can be.

bbc.co.uk

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Axolotl  Jan 10, 2021 • 5:16:33am

re: #187 The Ghost of a Flea

Well, if there’s one thing the chattering class isn’t going to do, it’s concede that moderately wealthy white people that like their op-ed pages can be and often are pig-fucking stupid and have a neither-fun-nor-safe interests in power and control over other people.

I live with these people—they should be my tribe, by birthright, but I’m weird and multiculty so they just try and get me to come to parties to be the interesting guy—and they are fucking awful. It’s hard to explain how a wee bit of material success just makes the parts of their brains shut off. They can’t empathize because they have no imagination, they can’t self-examine because the flee self awarness, they cleave to petty power/control games because those don’t require thought or creativity.

Trumpism isn’t an ideology, it’s more like a subconscious attraction to the superficial and the small-spirited, treated as the height of human experience. That which can’t be owned or dominated is upsetting, so everything has to be made hollow and vacuous. If an idea demands a change of perspective, or threatens with the sublime, then it has to be butchered and its innards scooped out, leaving only a manifold to fill with more self-importance and banality.

Less eloquently I would say you are describing one tier of an unspoken caste system here in the US.

I am much like you. I have found some neighbors who are like minded and we often discuss this.

My friend is a surgeon and his with is Puerto Rico. Her family is middle class with aspirations of making it to “the next level”. The quotes are mine to emphasize the next unspoken caste level.

People taste a little power in the upper middle class and it goes to their heads. I can feel the pull and I can see the stupid first hand like you. It is sickening how weak minded people can be.

On a side note, I am a white middle aged married with 4 teenagers veteran. The kids and I wanted to put a Biden sign in the yard. My wife refused because she was concerned about retribution. I told her if someone from my demographic doesn’t feel safe putting up a sign who does? She is Jewish so I lost that argument on historical grounds I won’t discuss.

I did put a up a big fat American flag the day Joe was announced the winner.

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Ming5000  Jan 10, 2021 • 5:17:42am

The officer who tried to stop the attackers in the stairwell is getting some good recognition:

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John Hughes  Jan 10, 2021 • 5:19:10am

re: #251 thedopefishlives

Even if he didn’t literally taser himself in the nads he clearly metaphorically tasered himself in the nads.

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Teukka  Jan 10, 2021 • 5:19:29am

re: #275 Dangerman

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Fucking decapitation operation…

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Ming5000  Jan 10, 2021 • 5:30:09am

I am on pins and needles hoping the D’s push forward as far as they can on impeachment. Too many in the GOP were deeply involved and all the GOP is tainted.
It is not going to just disappear after Jan 20.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2021 • 5:30:24am

re: #246 Nyet

what

re: #248 Dangerman

running as the anti politician will only work once if you win and then prove to be incompetent

It nearly worked for him again. And had it not been for his mishandling of Covid, he probably would have won, at least in the EC.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2021 • 5:30:49am

re: #246 Nyet

what

Зануда

Zanúda = a bothersome person, related to the Yiddish “nudnik”.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2021 • 5:32:13am

re: #268 Decatur Deb

A 10,000v groin-zap does not demand a high degree of precision.

It does if your balls are tiny or retracted

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Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2021 • 5:34:40am

re: #288 John Hughes

Even if he didn’t literally taser himself in the nads he clearly metaphorically tasered himself in the nads.

I’m waiting to hear from the East German referee.

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ericblair  Jan 10, 2021 • 5:37:46am

re: #285 William Lewis

Sigh… How it can be.

bbc.co.uk

Thing is, over here in Europe most countries are still basically ethnostates. I personally believe it’s the same reason that the US could pass a New Deal last century: the benefits go to people that look like themselves. Once other ethnic groups start getting benefits, the pushback begins.

Sweden has Somali and Syrian minorities, basically from refugees. You started to see the kind of resistance to benefits, and to more immigration, once that got on people’s radar. There have been new laws limiting benefits for certain classes of immigrants, and a marked decrease in the popular approval for equal benefits. Denmark’s been really shocking about this if you’re not familiar with European politics.

So, I’ve been telling Europeans, tactfully, not to feel superior to the United States over benefit and minority issues, because the US is way ahead of them when it comes to ethnic diversity. Take these American struggles and crises as warnings for what Europe will increasingly face with a more and more diverse population, not a smug reminder of their own greater wisdom.

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Teukka  Jan 10, 2021 • 5:45:28am

re: #289 Teukka

Fucking decapitation operation…

[Embedded content]

I shit you not.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2021 • 5:46:13am

re: #295 ericblair

Thing is, over here in Europe most countries are still basically ethnostates. I personally believe it’s the same reason that the US could pass a New Deal last century: the benefits go to people that look like themselves. Once other ethnic groups start getting benefits, the pushback begins.

One reason that the populist and Neo-Nazi factions are so strong in Eastern Germany: until 1989, these people had little or no history of immigrant groups living among them, only the odd exchange student from a Communist-friendly third-world country.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2021 • 5:47:22am

re: #296 Teukka

NEW FOOTAGE: a long, disciplined line of men in body armor moves as a unit up the Capitol Building steps.

We need to identify this group.

Antifa, all of them.

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b.d. (We Won!)  Jan 10, 2021 • 5:49:36am

Good morning Lizards:

How long for all of these guys that committed Twitter hara-kiri to come slinking back once Parler goes poof?

I’ll give it ‘til Wednesday

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Teukka  Jan 10, 2021 • 5:49:52am

re: #298 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Antifa, all of them.

[question type=rhethorical]Since fucking when did our beloved Auntie Fa have a black badge with a white embroidered coiled snek on, with four well known words under it on her back?[/question]
Srsly, check the insurrectionist with the most of his back shield visible.

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Teukka  Jan 10, 2021 • 5:52:45am

Quote of the Day (especially with what seems to be emerging):
“I swear, I am increasingly convinced that at least half of America is completely bonkers. And by bonkers I mean crazy. Looney Tunes. Starkers. The kind of bat-shit, drooling, bug-eyed, barking at the moon, piss-drinking, smeared in their own excrement, self-mutilating insanity you get from eating a steady diet of lead paint chips and snorting Tester’s Model Cement straight from the tap.”
— Jim Wright

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2021 • 5:52:47am

re: #300 Teukka

[question type=rhethorical]Since fucking when did our beloved Auntie Fa have a black badge with a white embroidered coiled snek on, with four well known words under it on her back?[/question]
Srsly, check the insurrectionist with the most of his back shield visible.

the point is that there are enough open questions about the capitol riots to give rise to dozens of CTs…and the Antifa False Flag one is still being held aloft.

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Ming5000  Jan 10, 2021 • 5:52:59am

re: #296 Teukka

Holy shit!

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lawhawk  Jan 10, 2021 • 5:56:00am

Greets and saluts from the failed state of the US. Trump’s failed coup continues to get a defense from GOPers who are craven treasonweasels who think that removing Trump from power is more dangerous than letting him stay in power as a dictator. That’s what this means - the rule of law is shredded and we are no longer a government governed by law, but those who wield power solely to enrich/empower themselves to protect them from the consequences of a never ending crime spree.

Trump sought to overthrow the government. The insurrectionists were incited by Trump and his allies. The security at the Capitol was compromised by Trump’s allies, and the GOP knew and continued covering for Trump crimes and backed his insanely fact free allegations of a stolen election with zero evidence.

Meanwhile, his propagandists at Fox and right wing echo chamber keep spewing nonsense about how antifa was responsible for all this, even as every law enforcement agency looking at the insurrection has found zero evidence of antifa -this was all Trumpists.

Trumpists waving flags of insurrection: Trump MAGA flags, Confederate flags (from the last insurrectionists who sought to overthrow the government), Gadsen flags, and blue lives matter flags.

Insurrectionists tore down the US flag and put up Trump’s MAGA flag. That’s what these insurrectionists are hoping for - to replace the US with a MAGA fascist cult.

And they don’t give a shit about lives of law enforcement officers either. They murdered a cop and injured more than 60 in storming the Capitol. Trump refuses to lower the flag on the WH to half mast to memorialize the death of that Capitol Police officer. Weird. He’s the one who loves having cops and soldiers as a backdrop, but when his actions lead to an insurrection that killed a cop, he’s suddenly ignoring the lives of the people he risked.

Pence still waffles over acting, because he’s a treasonweasel too. He was a target of these insurrectionists because he was counting confirm the election results. Trump threw Pence to the wolves, and Pence’s response is to … waffle and dither all while Trump and his goon squad get more desperate.

At the same time, GOPers are desperate to avoid an impeachment fight because it means they’d all be on the record - they don’t want a vote. Fuck them. Resign if you don’t want to vote against Trump’s impeachment and removal. You backed an insurrectionist and criminal. You refused to remove him the last time he engaged in high crimes, and your excuse that impeachment would divide the country is so much bulkshit. All those claims about how 74 million would lose their say.

Yeah, about that… 81 million voted for Biden - who won in a landslide. It was the biggest loss by an incumbent since 1932. It was a thorough repudiation. The Democrats have won back the House, Senate, and the WH with Trump at the head of the GOP.

And impeachment is essential to the rule of law and to prevent further crimes from occurring on the way out the door. Trump is dangerously unhinged and intent on destroying the nation if he can’t stay in power. We were warning of this long ago. Heck, Trump warned of this back in 2017 when he stated he wouldn’t accept an election he lost.

He’s a despot and a sociopath, and he has blood on his hands (not even getting into the soaring death toll from his disastrous covid19 response). The truly pathetic thing is had Trump managed the pandemic in a responsible manner, the odds are he would have won reelection. Instead, he wrecked the economy, killed more than 370,000+ Americans, and launched a coup to remain in power beyond 1/20.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 10, 2021 • 5:56:39am
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Teukka  Jan 10, 2021 • 5:58:36am

re: #303 Ming5000

Holy shit!

Chatter on chat I’m in wonders “Oaf creepers?” out loud….

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Belafon  Jan 10, 2021 • 5:58:53am

re: #287 Ming5000

The officer who tried to stop the attackers in the stairwell is getting some good recognition:

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ericblair  Jan 10, 2021 • 5:59:47am

re: #297 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

One reason that the populist and Neo-Nazi factions are so strong in Eastern Germany: until 1989, these people had little or no history of immigrant groups living among them, only the odd exchange student from a Communist-friendly third-world country.

I was heartened by the BLM protests in Europe, though. These were showing solidarity with the American victims of police violence, but also protested their nations’ own unacknowledged pasts (like Belgium and the Congo, England and the slave trade). The monuments to racism are going down over here, too.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jan 10, 2021 • 6:00:03am

re: #143 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Stay indoors and out of sight, pay attention to local news, contact trustworthy neighbors and find out what resources they may have. Discourage any rash action on their part. It is likely that many National Guard, and some regular, units will disobey pro-coup instructions from the Pentagon. It may be possible to contact them with information. State police will be more reliable than locals and much more reliable than Republican sheriffs. The latter should be considered part of the MAGAt forces until shown otherwise.

I’m fuqued then. My best hope if that balloon went up here would get in my car and flee.

On the other hand, this is a pretty quiet place. I really don’t see an insurrection starting in a village of 124.

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Teukka  Jan 10, 2021 • 6:01:40am

re: #302 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

the point is that there are enough open questions about the capitol riots to give rise to dozens of CTs…and the Antifa False Flag one is still being held aloft.

As much as it pains me, I strongly suspect that they are beyond redemption of the type which could come voluntarily. What happened on 2021-01-06 should not go without consequence. You guys cannot afford it not to. No more mister nice guy, but don’t go evil either. Simply check against the book what laws they broke, and sentence and punish them accordingly, no leniency or harshness.

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A Mom Anon  Jan 10, 2021 • 6:05:54am

re: #249 darthstar

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Teukka  Jan 10, 2021 • 6:06:14am

re: #296 Teukka

I shit you not.

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ericblair  Jan 10, 2021 • 6:06:53am
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Teukka  Jan 10, 2021 • 6:08:21am

re: #307 Belafon

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“You have the nerve to be holding a blue lives matter flag, and you are out there fucking us up,” he told one group of protestors he encountered inside the Capitol. “[One guy] pulled out his badge and he said, ‘we’re doing this for you.’ Another guy had his badge. So I was like, ‘well, you gotta be kidding.’”

[…]

Another officer, a newer recruit, echoed these sentiments, saying that where he was on the steps to the rotunda on the east side of the Capitol, he was engaged in hand-to-hand battles trying to fight the attackers off. But he said they were outnumbered 10 to one, and described extraordinary scenes in which protesters holding Blue Lives Matter flags launched themselves at police officers.

“We were telling them to back up and get away and stop, and they’re telling us, they are on our side, and they’re doing this for us, and they’re saying this as I’m getting punched in my face by one of them … That happened to a lot of us. We were getting pepper sprayed in the face by those protesters, I’m not going to even call them protestors, by those domestic terrorists,” said the officer.

JFC…

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Teukka  Jan 10, 2021 • 6:10:39am

re: #312 Teukka

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Both III% and oafers:

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jeffreyw  Jan 10, 2021 • 6:17:11am

Good morning!

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garzooma  Jan 10, 2021 • 6:18:29am

It occurs to me that the Dominion lawsuit against Sydney Powell has accrued additional importance as it will provide an opportunity for exposing the Trump campaign of lies in court.

Cruz and Hawley are free to bring in their evidence of fraud at that point.

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Teukka  Jan 10, 2021 • 6:19:46am

*walks to podium*
*clears throat*
*cranks PA to 11*

[tap] [tap] [tap] ‘this thing on?

SORRY BEFOREHAND FOR THE ALL CAPS, BUT I FEEL THAT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT I GET MY POINT ACROSS.

I FEEL IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WHAT HAPPENED ON 2021-01-06 DOES NOT GO WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES FOR THE INSTIGATORS, CO-CONSPIRATORS, OR (UN)WILLING OR (UN)KNOWING PARTICIPANTS.

WHAT HAPPENED ON WEDNESDAY WAS AN ATTEMPT AT DECAPITATE THE ELECTED GOVERNMENT OF THE US. AN ATTEMPTED COUP D’ETAT, PURE AND SIMPLE.

IF THESE PEOPLE DO NOT GET CONSEQUENCES WHICH WILL BE FELT, THEY WILL TRY AGAIN. CALL YOUR LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL REPRESENTATIVES. DEMAND INVESTIGATIONS, DEMAND ACTION.

THAT IS ALL

:mic drop:

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lawhawk  Jan 10, 2021 • 6:24:18am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2021 • 6:24:25am

re: #318 Teukka

There are too many unanswered questions, and until we get to the bottom of them, the CT people will be having a field day (well, they will continue nonetheless but will only be preaching to the choir)

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A Mom Anon  Jan 10, 2021 • 6:24:28am

re: #318 Teukka

My rep is Barry Loudermilk. But I do have two wonderful new Senators I can contact who might be a little pissed off about now. If we can ever get them sworn in. Local/State level is mostly super right wing or enablers.

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mmmirele  Jan 10, 2021 • 6:25:44am

Getting ready for today’s round of picketing by making signs and a megaphone and by listening to last Wednesday’s prayer meeting at Evident Life Church, which occurred after the insurrection and before the vote. Apparently they have open mic and the delusion…oh the delusion. Right now I’m on a part where they’re praying for Mike Pence’s heart to be changed. This woman said in her prayer “We want what you want, Lord”

Wednesday Night Prayer - January 6, 2021

at 47:55. Listening to these words before going gives me the ammo to speak their language when I go over there.

megaphone
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A Mom Anon  Jan 10, 2021 • 6:27:16am

re: #322 mmmirele

Please be careful out there. I worry about you out there alone.

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Teukka  Jan 10, 2021 • 6:27:25am

re: #320 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

There are too many unanswered questions, and until we get to the bottom of them, the CT people will be having a field day (well, they will continue nonetheless but will only be preaching to the choir)

re: #321 A Mom Anon

My rep is Barry Loudermilk. But I do have two wonderful new Senators I can contact who might be a little pissed off about now. If we can ever get them sworn in. Local/State level is mostly super right wing or enablers.

I know. Hence why I dropped quite a bit of F-bombs when it occurred to me just how much work you ‘murricans have cut out for you. I cannot stress it enough. It is imperative that this has consequences which can be felt (beyond any reasonable doubt) for those involved. The future of the US as a country depends on it (and no, this isn’t hyperbole).

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lawhawk  Jan 10, 2021 • 6:29:00am
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mmmirele  Jan 10, 2021 • 6:29:52am

re: #323 A Mom Anon

Please be careful out there. I worry about you out there alone.

I know. I have a GoPro strapped to my chest and it’s running the entire time.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2021 • 6:33:05am

re: #324 Teukka

…It is imperative that this has consequences which can be felt (beyond any reasonable doubt) for those involved. The future of the US as a country depends on it (and no, this isn’t hyperbole).

as someone pointed out, unsuccessful coups are often followed by successful ones.

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Teukka  Jan 10, 2021 • 6:33:23am

re: #325 lawhawk

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Belafon  Jan 10, 2021 • 6:38:06am
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Nyet  Jan 10, 2021 • 6:38:31am

re: #292 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Зануда

Zanúda = a bothersome person, related to the Yiddish “nudnik”.

Yeah, that’s different, the previous one wasn’t a word ;). Also, I’d imperfectly translate it as a “bore”.

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Belafon  Jan 10, 2021 • 6:40:16am
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Nyet  Jan 10, 2021 • 6:40:26am

So many people have failed the Crowded Theater test.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2021 • 6:41:52am

re: #330 Nyet

Yeah, that’s different, the previous one wasn’t a word ;). Also, I’d imperfectly translate it as a “bore”.

It was a play on Newt, a Newtnik, so to speak.

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Dangerman  Jan 10, 2021 • 6:41:55am

Yes this a joke
Sadly we all know its no longer impossible

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(((Archangel1)))  Jan 10, 2021 • 6:42:02am

Hard to resist.

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A Mom Anon  Jan 10, 2021 • 6:43:56am

re: #324 Teukka

It was always conservative here. When we moved here I knew that. But the schools had more of the resources my son needed at the time than any other area around Atlanta. We got a fixer upper house for a good price and made the leap. And then 9/11 happened a few short years later. For a couple of weeks or so after we were united as a community. And then the blame and accusations started from Republicans, led by Ralph Reed and Newt. Liberal Hunting License bumper stickers started appearing on pick up trucks and it was the first time outside of a parade I saw(and still see)flags flying from a pickup truck bed. Neighbors started withdrawing from us(that was related to us not being churchgoers as much as anything liberal about us) and my son wasn’t really welcome there to play anymore. They never said it outright, it was just like actual walls went up.

While we were one of the blue counties in the metro Atlanta area, that’s only at the federal level. There are a lot of right wing loons in state and local government and more than a couple who think the Confederate flag should fly above or replace the American flag. This shit is generational and very hard to overcome.

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Dangerman  Jan 10, 2021 • 6:46:38am

re: #278 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

That is a very good point indeed. The hinterland gentry, as I have described them, are the heart and soul of the Republican Party. They ARE the Republican establishment they pretend to decry and have been since the 19th century. The small town real estate grubber who took the private non-jet to the riot is a classic example.

The truly economically needy and “downtrodden” wouldnt have or waste the money in a trip to dc

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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 10, 2021 • 6:57:15am

re: #229 darthstar

A platform (tech) on an infrastructure (big tech) that will destroy itself.

Dr. Shiva, inventor of email, will invent something named after a pork product, where your email (TM) account gets overwhelmed, thus preventing ANY communication amongst Antifa-BLM-communists. MUH-HA-HA-HA!

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 10, 2021 • 6:57:22am
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jan 10, 2021 • 6:57:32am
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[deleted]  Jan 10, 2021 • 6:58:43am
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Belafon  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:00:58am

Re #341, that was quick.

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BlueSpotinAL  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:01:53am

re: #259 BigPapa

Do you have the balls to accept the truth?

Afraid nut.

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Dangerman  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:02:46am

re: #313 ericblair

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“Or” fools not and

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Dangerman  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:03:56am

re: #314 Teukka

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JFC…

Blue lives matter until they are in my way

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:05:50am

re: #271 Dangerman

more

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threatened into committing sedition
they had to threaten for support because the organizers knew it was all based on lies otherwise

This is what happens when you don’t hold town hall meetings and tell your constituents that the president is full of shit.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:06:09am

You love to see it:

The PGA of America will strip Donald Trump of the 2022 PGA Championship, which is scheduled to be held at Trump National Bedminster golf club in New Jersey.

In a blistering column that says the golf world must sever all ties with Trump, Golfweek’s Eamon Lynch said the PGA has been debating for two years the need to move the major championship and, once Trump is out of office, will announce the tournament will be played elsewhere:

“The odds that ‘22′s PGA Championship will happen as scheduled in New Jersey are about as good as the chances of you or I winning it. Seth Waugh, the PGA of America’s CEO, was a banker and has an alert eye for high-risk exposure. He knows that Trumpism is likely to be an equally incendiary force in the ‘22 midterm elections and that any affiliation is poisonous. Waugh will be forced to move the event and face down a small but vocal faction of his membership who remain true believers. Moving its major from Trump National has been debated internally at the PGA for more than two years, but executives have been reluctant to antagonize a famously vindictive man who controls the Internal Revenue Service. Such concerns melt away in 10 days, if not sooner.”

Lynch, like Washington Post columnist Barry Svrluga, says professional golf — including some of its biggest celebrities, like Tiger Woods, Nancy Lopez, Jack Nicklaus, Gary Player and Annika Sorenstam — has angered many fans by cozying up to Trump. But, Lynch says, “the events of January 6 that left five people dead ought to make him a pariah everywhere. Including in golf.”

nj.com

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DodgerFan1988  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:08:03am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:09:20am

re: #348 DodgerFan1988

Everybody knows that Kristallnacht was a Communist False Flag op…

/

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lawhawk  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:11:25am

re: #347 Dr Lizardo

PGA can still keep the tourney in NJ. They can hold it at Baltustrol.

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John Hughes  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:11:30am

re: #295 ericblair

Thing is, over here in Europe most countries are still basically ethnostates.

true, for the smaller countries that had no significant empire.

Not true for France, Spain, Portugal, Germany, Italy.

Of course Empire is to the European countries as slavery is to the US…

And, often, less understood / accepted

Edit: added Portugal.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:13:03am

re: #339 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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I was just going to post.

Gave me chills.

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John Hughes  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:15:42am

Random thought — Star Trek Discovery is the high point of production values and acting, and the low point of logic/sense/reason.

WTF — the galactic civilization was destroyed by mommy issues?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:16:13am

re: #351 John Hughes

true, for the smaller countries that had no significant empire.

Not true for France, Spain, Germany, Italy.

Of course Empire is to the European countries as slavery is to the US…

And, often, less understood / accepted

Because it did not happen under their noses and the consequences did not start coming home to roost until after WW2 or later…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:16:55am

re: #353 John Hughes

Random thought — Star Trek Discovery is the high point of production values and acting, and the low point of logic/sense/reason.

WTF — the galactic civilization was destroye[d] by mommy issues?

The ultimate Helicopter mom: she built an entire holo-world to shield her son

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Teukka  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:18:03am

re: #339 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n😷Trips

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DAYUM.

Good speech.

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John Hughes  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:21:48am

re: #354 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

For many Americans the “consequences” of slavery haven’t even been digested in 2021.

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Jay C  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:22:55am

re: #356 Teukka

DAYUM.

Good speech.

Yeah: never been all that much of a political fan of Arnold, but for stuff like this, he manages to come up with the right words at the right time. No wonder the CA GOP never liked him very much….
Cavils: a bit over-the-top with the sword: and his outfit (and staging) was weird: it looked like he was wearing a uniform of some kind. But generally excellent.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:22:57am

This is fine.

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lawhawk  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:25:41am

Hewitt removing all doubt that he’s an insurrectionist supporter who is hoping for a more competent attempt next time.

Refusing to promptly prosecute those involved emboldens the next attempt. Trump’s failed coup will be followed by more unless you promptly and thoroughly go after those who plotted and carried out the insurrection.

So far, we’ve seen FBI arrest low level thugs. No one yet charged in the murder of the Capitol Police officer. No ringleaders.

What is the FBI waiting for? 1/20 to avoid Trump interfering with pardons, or are they corrupted/compromised by Trump to protect Trump and his coconspirators in the plot.

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Teukka  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:25:51am

re: #358 Jay C

Yeah: never been all that much of a political fan of Arnold, but for stuff like this, he manages to come up with the right words at the right time. No wonder the CA GOP never liked him very much….
Cavils: a bit over-the-top with the sword: and his outfit (and staging) was weird: it looked like he was wearing a uniform of some kind. But generally excellent/

Tempering of blade weapons is a good analogy, and being Hollywood, why wouldn’t a good prop be the first thing that comes to his mind?

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thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:26:30am

That was a hell of a speech. Arnold has a great story and he tells the hell out of it.

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lawhawk  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:27:53am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:29:04am

re: #249 darthstar

Just read on dkos that one of the people who died was a woman who got trampled by other rioters while holding a Gadsden flag. Sounds a bit too funny to be true.

No funnier than the gun nut who tasered himself to death by zapping his balls while trying to steal Tip O’Neill’s portrait.

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LeftyRambles2413 (HappyWarrior)  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:30:35am

re: #363 lawhawk

Enjoy being a defendant, Louie, Josh, & Ted.

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:30:39am

Arnold … Pretty good speech. The personal stuff too.

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Dangerman  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:31:44am

J.T. in Greensboro, NC, writes: Theory: Fox News’s ratings were down during the insurrection because their viewers were inside the Capitol taking selfies

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Teukka  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:32:33am

re: #366 darthstar

Arnold … Pretty good speech. The personal stuff too.

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The place I come from has a similar post-WWII history and experiences. So I get where he’s coming from.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:37:45am

re: #258 Nyet

No need to join that dumpster to read it.

parler.com

I don’t know what AWS said or did but this is still available as of right now.

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lawhawk  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:40:50am

Unconfirmed:

Capitol Police officer who was at Capitol during the armed insurrection has committed suicide. Waiting to find more authoritative sourcing.

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Dangerman  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:41:24am
The president and some allies also believe Democrats are overreaching by trying to once again impeach him… One adviser called Democratic consideration of impeachment a political gift to Trump

What political gift?
Do these people not understand he’ll be tried after hes out of office?

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Teukka  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:41:47am

So, this came to mind re: “healing” in the context of last wednesday:

You can’t heal without every boil being lanced, drained, cleaned out and bandaged. Any boil or wound not attended to will risk further infection and sepsis.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:42:59am

re: #350 lawhawk

PGA can still keep the tourney in NJ. They can hold it at Baltustrol.

It was dumb to schedule it at Trump’s course in ‘22 when they knew there was a chance he could be president; the conflicts of interest are already outrageous, but holding a major tourney at the president’s own course?

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Dangerman  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:44:02am

Re trump running for 2024

He began backing off the idea after learning that running would require him to release a new round of financial documents that would make him vulnerable to his ongoing criminal and civil investigations and lawsuits, according to two Republicans close to Trump

Politico

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Dangerman  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:44:39am

I’d like to cancel my subscription to 2021

This 7 day trial sucked

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Teukka  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:45:37am

re: #375 Dangerman

I’d like to cancel my subscription to 2021

This 7 day trial sucked

I’ve heard that 2020 et al are part of a trilogy…

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Jay C  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:45:44am

re: #368 Teukka

The place I come from has a similar post-WWII history and experiences. So I get where he’s coming from.

If it’s not TMI, where is that?

(If it is, OK)

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:48:33am

re: #370 lawhawk

Unconfirmed:

Capitol Police officer who was at Capitol during the armed insurrection has committed suicide. Waiting to find more authoritative sourcing.

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lawhawk  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:50:09am

re: #373 Barefoot Grin

It was dumb to schedule it at Trump’s course in ‘22 when they knew there was a chance he could be president; the conflicts of interest are already outrageous, but holding a major tourney at the president’s own course?

PGA is reeling over the backlash of so many high profile golfers still backing Trump even as the insurrection was being plotted and underway - Woods, Player, Sorenstam, etc.

They’re fucked. Good.

Trump’s fucked. Even better.

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Dangerman  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:50:20am

re: #375 Dangerman

I’d like to cancel my subscription to 2021

This 7 day trial sucked

A.B. in Jonesboro, AR, writes: If the events of the past week or so are any vision of what is to come, I fear we may be in the situation of The Year 2021 telling The Year 2020 “Hey yall, hold my beer and watch this!”

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Teukka  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:51:05am

re: #377 Jay C

If it’s not TMI, where is that?

Finland. We kicked red army butt to the tune of 4-5 to 1 kill ratio. We have the most prolific sniper in world history. We lost territory equivalent to AK and most of the pacific coast in terms of % compared to US territory. We had the Germans as allies until the Moscow peace of 1944 stipulated we run them out by a set date (which the soviets chose because they thought we wouldn’t be able to).
As part of the peace, we have certain limitations, like how border patrol is organized (apparently to make invasion easier), certain military restrictions, such as we can’t conscript females or have subs in our navy. Or make any move to try to get justice for Soviet war crimes during the Continuation war (we had to keep them secret for 50 years). As non-negotiable terms.

And the successor to the Soviet Union, the Russian Federation, has in no uncertain terms made it clear that it still holds us to the non-negotiable terms of the peace.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:53:20am

re: #381 Teukka

And the successor to the Soviet Union, the Russian Federation, has in no uncertain terms made it clear that it still holds us to the non-negotiable terms of the peace.

And Finland was part of the Russian Empire until Lenin cut it loose.

I visited the Lenin Museum in Tampere, one of his favorite towns in Finland.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:54:57am

re: #378 Barefoot Grin

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Fuck.

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:55:01am

re: #369 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I don’t know what AWS said or did but this is still available as of right now.

They have until midnight tonight to migrate off the cloud.

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 7:59:12am

re: #347 Dr Lizardo

You love to see it:

nj.com

this part made me laugh out loud…my wife too.

but executives have been reluctant to antagonize a famously vindictive man who controls the Internal Revenue Service.

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:00:08am

re: #378 Barefoot Grin

His father, same name, was Seargent at Arms for the Senate from 1983-2005

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NO SMOCKING GUN!  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:01:26am

re: #364 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

No funnier than the gun nut who tasered himself to death by zapping his balls while trying to steal Tip O’Neill’s portrait.

The first two nominees for the 2021 Darwin Award.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:02:36am

re: #385 darthstar

On the bright side, he won’t be controlling the IRS for much longer. Best thing they could do is wait until the 22nd or so, then put the kibosh on it.

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lawhawk  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:02:55am
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Barefoot Grin  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:03:02am

re: #386 darthstar

His father, same name, was Seargent at Arms for the Senate from 1983-2005

I saw 1981-1983 and then was a high-ranking Senate aide. But I think that’s a detail mostly for DC insiders—I hadn’t heard of him before.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:04:17am

Lots of sources now but still a little wobbly.

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Teukka  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:04:37am

Damn, there is an info deluge:

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Dangerman  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:05:21am

re: #376 Teukka

I’ve heard that 2020 et al are part of a trilogy…

You should see mrsdm’s face after I read your response

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Teukka  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:05:41am

re: #391 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Lots of sources now but still a little wobbly.

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PTSD by being hanged out to dry by the superiors. Maybe elements of giving in to the fear of “knowing” the guilty won’t ever pay?

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:05:42am

re: #389 lawhawk

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Hey, let the market decide, as conservatives are always saying.

Well, it decided.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:06:08am

re: #376 Teukka

I’ve heard that 2020 et al are part of a trilogy…

actually, 2020 was part four in the series…

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:06:41am

Mike Pompeo has thoughts.

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Belafon  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:06:50am

re: #380 Dangerman

A.B. in Jonesboro, AR, writes: If the events of the past week or so are any vision of what is to come, I fear we may be in the situation of The Year 2021 telling The Year 2020 “Hey yall, hold my beer and watch this!”

I would love to know who A.B. is since my wife is from Jonesboro. Where are you pulling those from?

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Jay C  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:07:33am

re: #392 Teukka

Damn, there is an info deluge:

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The bit that stood out to me was:

Avoid chain fast foods.

As if….

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:08:16am

re: #389 lawhawk

Did Devin’s account get suspended? No. Did Cruz’s? No. They may not be allowed to foment insurrection, but they can still communicate.

Devin needs to be expelled from the House as well.

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Teukka  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:09:05am

re: #396 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

actually, 2020 was part four in the series…

*gulp*

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Dangerman  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:09:16am

re: #389 lawhawk

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Build your own
Twitter is not”yours”
Was a mistake to rely on it always being there

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:09:24am

re: #395 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Hey, let the market decide, as conservatives are always saying.

Well, it decided.

It is time to address the issue of Google, Twitter, FB et al and the role they play in public/political discourse as monopoly entities, but for now they are still PRIVATELY OWNED COMPANIES and as our friend Mitt said, “Corporations are people, too!”

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Rightwingconspirator  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:10:11am

re: #402 Dangerman

If only we were all that lucky…

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Dangerman  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:10:36am

re: #392 Teukka

Damn, there is an info deluge:

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Wait…isn’t that like sort of boycotting?
Isn’t that bad?

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Jay C  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:11:41am

re: #397 darthstar

Mike Pompeo has thoughts.

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Amazing: such a thick head, such shallow thinking.

Gee, Mr. Secretary: whatta shock! The incoming President and Vice-President (-Elects) are picking up Twitter followers, while Yesterday’s Hacks (like you) are getting dumped. Whodathunkit? Must be a Sinister Conspiracy…..

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:11:54am

re: #392 Teukka

Damn, there is an info deluge:

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Buy Cryptocurrency. Looking forward to when they go out to pizza. Do you take Litecoin?

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Dangerman  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:11:54am

re: #398 Belafon

I would love to know who A.B. is since my wife is from Jonesboro. Where are you pulling those from?

Sorry
today’s electoral-vote.com

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Dangerman  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:12:23am

re: #400 darthstar

Did Devin’s account get suspended? No. Did Cruz’s? No. They may not be allowed to foment insurrection, but they can still communicate.

Devin needs to be expelled from the House as well.

Anyone can read Twitter, right?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:12:27am

Maybe they should publish a Republican Media Green Book, like the one for black travelers in the 50’s and 60’s, that lists sites where Republicans can still engage in Free Discourse…

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Dangerman  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:13:49am

re: #410 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Maybe they should publish a Republican Media Green Book, like the one for black travelers in the 50’s and 60’s, that lists where Republicans can still engage in Free Discourse…

+1

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:14:00am

re: #409 Dangerman

Anyone can read Twitter, right?

They’re just feeling sorry for themselves because they’ve been exposed as a bunch of traitors and they want to change the subject and be considered persecuted victims.

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Jay C  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:14:03am

re: #407 darthstar

Buy Cryptocurrency. Looking forward to when they go out to pizza. Do you take Litecoin?

Trumpcoin. They can try to pay with those campaign “coins”/”medals”: the gaudier the colored enamel, the more they’re worth…..

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:15:39am

re: #413 Jay C

Trumpcoin. They can try to pay with those campaign “coins”/”medals”: the gaudier the colored enamel, the more they’re worth…..

Speaking of which, I’ll bet Jordan’s just hoping Trump doesn’t quit before he gets his medal tomorrow.

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:17:50am

re: #397 darthstar

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Teukka  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:20:23am

Just an idea, what about this move whenever encountering a Q, MAGAt or coup apologist?

discommendation-ds9.flv

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:21:42am

re: #378 Barefoot Grin

Was this because he was ashamed that he felt he failed in doing his job or because he was part of the failed plot?

I can’t blame the cops that were there. They were outnumbered. They did what they could. Most of them. Some others, not so much.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:23:07am

re: #417 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Was this because he was ashamed that he felt he failed in doing his job or because he was part of the failed plot?

I can’t blame the cops that were there. They were outnumbered. They did what they could. Most of them. Some others, not so much.

More open questions.

Really need to get to the bottom of this all.

No room for talk of “reconciliation” until we resolve outstanding matters.

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:25:43am

Why did they go with such a lame photo when the one with the light blue jacket is clearly a much better shot?

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austin_blue  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:25:45am

Morning all.

It’s snowing in South Austin.

And Jim Bob Moffet, 82, rabid developer of sensitive land in Austin and big-time earth rapist as a principal of Freeport-McMoRan has died and gone to hell.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:26:24am

re: #417 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

The Capitol Police that was there, holding the line was actively betrayed by the top ranks and (maybe) a few of their own. They really had no chance. As that reality set in it is surely devastating for a good cop.

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Barefoot Grin  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:27:16am

re: #417 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Was this because he was ashamed that he felt he failed in doing his job or because he was part of the failed plot?

I can’t blame the cops that were there. They were outnumbered. They did what they could. Most of them. Some others, not so much.

Right now it’s all speculation. There have been reports of many officers feeling gutted and betrayed by leadership, but it’s not even clear if he was on the scene last Wednesday.

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Belafon  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:27:25am
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austin_blue  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:28:16am

re: #389 lawhawk

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Acyn Torabi
@Acyn
*
Jan 10, 2021
Devin Nunes says Republicans have no way to communicate now

lawhawk #maskingforafriend
@lawhawk
On Fox. He said it on Fox.
9:59 AM * Jan 10, 2021

God is an iron.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:28:27am

re: #420 austin_blue

Morning all.

It’s snowing in South Austin.

And Jim Bob Moffet, 82, rabid developer of sensitive land in Austin and big-time earth rapist as a principal of Freeport-McMoRan has died and gone to hell.

Snowing here too and they have 8 inches in Lubbock. The place will be shut down for days.
And good riddance to Jim Bob. I had actually met the SoB.

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Teukka  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:28:51am
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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:31:07am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:32:25am

re: #426 Teukka

It’s illegal to fly a Nazi flag in Germany. It’s time we finally deal with this rebel flag bullshit. If you did not feel rage at seeing that flag in our nations Capitol you are not a real American. Fuck your “It’s heritage” bullshit. It needs banned!

If you want to display it as a private person, then I guess that is still your personal right. But there should be a ban on flying it in places such as public buildings…especially the Capitol Building.

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austin_blue  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:33:11am

re: #425 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Snowing here too and they have 8 inches in Lubbock. The place will be shut down for days.
And good riddance to Jim Bob. I had actually met the SoB.

A mean man and a meaner drunk.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:35:24am

re: #389 lawhawk

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They’re called phones, letters, interoffice intercomm, face to face. But I guess what you really mean is you have no way to spread lies easily and widely.

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Teukka  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:35:31am

re: #427 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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Over/under on not only their activities on 2021-01-06 being exposed by themselves, but any less than legal side gigs?

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jaunte  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:36:28am

re: #402 Dangerman

Devin Nunes says Republicans have no way to communicate now

They can always rely on their traditional primate threat displays like chest pounding or branches beaten on the ground.

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:37:34am

re: #397 darthstar

Mike Pompeo has thoughts.

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Hey Mike, french kiss my asshole

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:39:41am

Someone’s still sulking.

Meanwhile…

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:40:09am

re: #431 Teukka

Over/under on not their activities on 2021-01-06 being exposed by themselves, but any less than legal side gigs?

Most of these people are entitled yokel gentry who are not accustomed to pressure. I think a lot of juice will flow once the FBI puts the squeeze on them; tax evasion, low level money laundering, localized gambling and prostitution, the usual recreations of the locally privileged.

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:40:38am

re: #427 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

The FBI agent running that Parler thread should get a commendation for ingenuity.

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Teukka  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:41:04am

Is it just me, or does @AOC appear a wee bit ticked off 🤔 ?

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jaunte  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:41:50am

re: #437 Teukka

Rightfully so.

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jaunte  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:42:27am
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🌹UOJB!  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:43:01am

Oh no!

Is it true that Trump has been kicked off of Postmates, Grubhub and Doordash, too???????

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mmmirele  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:43:30am

First round of picketing done. I’m now sitting in a parking lot across the street and listening to Eric Jones. He prayed for the country and for Trump. He very clearly did not pray for Biden. I helieve I’m blocked on their YouTube, but I couldn’t resist asking why Eric didn’t pray for the president-elect after last Wednesday.

I settled on two things to shout: “Eric Jones is a false prophet” and “If you asked God to overturn the election, you have blood on your hands from Wednesdsy’s coup.” And why yes, I got more attention from these people.

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jaunte  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:44:37am

Anyone who prays for Trump is praying for violence.

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:45:34am

Aww..2 of my asshole relatives who went to DC blocked me on Facebook and Twitter.

Is the 3rd one is in Uncle Sam’s B&B…

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Eventual Carrion  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:46:05am

re: #426 Teukka

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My answer to those that tell me “It’s heritage” is:

You know what was heritage of us northerners during that time. If you saw that flag flying at a house or someone carrying it, you killed the people there and burnt the house down. Yea heritage.

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Teukka  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:47:04am

re: #427 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

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Q was right! We must dox ourselves to overturn this election against these liberal communist Antifa fascists

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:47:36am

re: #435 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo

Most of these people are entitled yokel gentry who are not accustomed to pressure. I think a lot of juice will flow once the FBI puts the squeeze on them; tax evasion, low level money laundering, localized gambling and prostitution, the usual recreations of the locally privileged.

Can’t believe I forgot my favorite GOP treason, hinterland FARA violations. I expect the feds to dig into that too, now that Cheeto’s departure is imminent.

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:47:44am

re: #437 Teukka

Is it just me, or does @AOC appear a wee bit ticked off 🤔 ?

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She’s right. More people should call for McCarthy to resign.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:47:44am

re: #444 Eventual Carrion

My answer to those that tell me “It’s heritage” is:

You know what was heritage of us northerners during that time. If you saw that flag flying at a house or someone carrying it, you killed the people there and burnt the house down. Yea heritage.

That flag never flew over any government building in the Confederacy, that would have been the Stars and Bars. The Confederate Flag that we all know is the battle standard.

It means you are there to fight.

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:48:04am

Meanwhile there is rumbling in the DC Congressional Cemetery where my Great Great Grandfather, Union General Peter Bacon is buried…I got a feeling Great Great Grandpa is really pissed off right now…

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thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:49:53am

re: #443 🌹UOJB!

Aww..2 of my asshole relatives who went to DC blocked me on Facebook and Twitter.

Is the 3rd one is in Uncle Sam’s B&B…

That would be funny. Funnier still if 1 and 2 got picked up later.

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unproven innocence  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:51:52am

Pompeo has announced a significant policy shift between US and Taiwan, one that will be troublesome for future US-China relations, and implicitly, for Biden.

China slams US over revival of Taiwan relations

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The Pie Overlord!  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:52:52am

re: #443 🌹UOJB!

Aww..2 of my asshole relatives who went to DC blocked me on Facebook and Twitter.

Is the 3rd one is in Uncle Sam’s B&B…

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thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:53:54am

re: #452 The Pie Overlord!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:55:47am

re: #376 Teukka

I’ve heard that 2020 et al are part of a trilogy…

As long as George Lucas stays far away.

//

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:56:05am

Testing

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thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:56:31am

re: #454 Eclectic Cyborg

As long as George Lucas stays far away.

//

Donald Trump is the Jar Jar Binks of reality.

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Teukka  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:58:25am

re: #456 thedopefishlives

Donald Trump is the Jar Jar Binks of reality.

You know the theory that Jar Jar Binks was Darth Plagueis, right?

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 10, 2021 • 8:58:36am

re: #452 The Pie Overlord!

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:00:14am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:00:54am

re: #453 thedopefishlives

m44vYItUCQVLLE1NnZAwik1J+QgxtGAaPUKk1AM67jIm2XPJk5nvmB3v5sDlf5P+cBAq1ruubikR/vHKowMC5BTE58aDaGT4dp+2g/ES6IgX1afqNFpLFl7cuRqbWkSAqkwzX2p2UofiHy9aUerGuxSTZOgAQq9R

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jaunte  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:02:26am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:02:30am
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thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:02:33am

re: #457 Teukka

You know the theory that Jar Jar Binks was Darth Plagueis, right?

Yes.

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thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:04:10am

re: #460 Eclectic Cyborg

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jaunte  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:04:12am
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TedStriker  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:04:15am

re: #457 Teukka

You know the theory that Jar Jar Binks was Darth Plagueis, right?

re: #463 thedopefishlives

Yes.

Which would have made the prequels that much more interesting, but supposedly Lucas chickened out after a test screening and went back to the drawing board.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:04:16am

RE: Devin Nunes saying Republicans can’t communicate.

Fuck off, Devin. You’re a member of the House of Representatives.

- Write a blog post
- Go on a podcast / do a radio address
- Write an editorial for the WSJ
- Issue a press release
- Call a press conference
- Hop on Youtube live
- Call up OAN

Hell, most of you assholes (except Josh Hawley) can get BOOK DEALS a good percent of the time.

So shut the fuck up about how you have no platform.

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jaunte  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:05:31am

re: #467 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s harder for them to whip up a mob from half a continent away.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:06:07am

I support the Cobra Kai approach with Impeachent:

STRIKE HARD
NO MERCY

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:06:20am
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jaunte  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:07:08am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:07:47am

re: #470 darthstar

How long before she claims it was a joke?

Half /

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Teukka  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:13:31am

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:14:08am

Fuck both of these guys…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:15:03am

re: #474 darthstar

Fuck both of these guys…

[Embedded content]

They are who they said again and again and again they were.

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PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:15:18am

re: #473 Teukka

I will take FDR any day. :)

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jaunte  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:16:35am

Arrest the insurrectionists.

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:17:37am

re: #474 darthstar

Fuck both of these guys…

[Embedded content]

BTW, that black cop led that group of men away from the Senate chamber giving a number of people time to evacuate and for them to barricade the doors.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:17:46am

re: #350 lawhawk

PGA can still keep the tourney in NJ. They can hold it at Baltustrol.

Or Pine Valley.

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jaunte  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:18:08am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:18:21am

re: #477 jaunte

Same lady who wants to be able to bring a loaded gun into the Chamber.

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William Lewis  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:18:38am

re: #376 Teukka

I’ve heard that 2020 et al are part of a trilogy…

O_O

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:19:01am

re: #475 Eclectic Cyborg

They are who they said again and again and again they were.

I wonder if Iowa man is getting fired from the masonry business now.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:19:07am
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darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:19:47am

re: #481 Eclectic Cyborg

Same lady who wants to be able to bring a loaded gun into the Chamber.

Yeah, I still have another 20 hours of suspension thanks to a smart-ass tweet at her over that last Monday.

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EstebanTornado1963  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:19:48am

re: #443 🌹UOJB!

Forward their info to the FBI

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:20:42am

re: #484 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

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Ooh…definitely impeach him again. Save America the cost of protecting him from the Russians.

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🌹UOJB!  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:21:20am

re: #486 EstebanTornado1963

Forward their info to the FBI

Oh that has been done not only to the FBI but other agencies as well.

They need to learn that Actions Have Consequences and Right Wing Jesus Ain’t Gonna Save Their Asses.

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:23:17am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:23:41am

I will be very disappointed if the House doesn’t impeach again this week.

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jaunte  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:23:42am
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Ace Rothstein  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:23:44am

re: #385 darthstar

I can understand Gary Player not condemning Trump’s terrorism and getting his freedom medal. He’s from South Africa where they terrorized black people for years. He even supported it until he “condemned it” years later.

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BeachDem  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:24:18am

re: #444 Eventual Carrion

My answer to those that tell me “It’s heritage” is:

You know what was heritage of us northerners during that time. If you saw that flag flying at a house or someone carrying it, you killed the people there and burnt the house down. Yea heritage.

From the pen of Aaron Sorkin/lips of Isaac Jaffe on Sports Night:

In the history of the South, there’s much to celebrate. And that flag is a desecration of all of it. It’s a banner of hatred and separatism. It’s a banner of ignorance and violence and a war that pitted brother against brother, and to ask young black men and women, young Jewish men and women, Asians, Native Americans, to ask Americans to walk beneath its shadow is a humiliation of irreducible proportions. And we all know it…

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Dr Lizardo  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:24:32am

re: #466 TedStriker

Which would have made the prequels that much more interesting, but supposedly Lucas chickened out after a test screening and went back to the drawing board.

What I’d heard is that Lucas decided not to pursue that idea after overwhelming negative reaction to the Jar Jar character. The mistake, IMHO, was making him too buffoonish - if they’d maybe written in a scene or two that showed Jar Jar as potentially malevolent, it could’ve worked.

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jaunte  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:26:22am
496
Belafon  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:28:56am

It’s snowing here in Rockwall. First time in at least five years. It’s supposed to show for a while.

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Ace Rothstein  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:29:12am

re: #474 darthstar

Now that’s the proper way to hold a rifle.
//

498
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:31:06am

Ok. I hate this guy but he has a point. There’s, of course, a long thread. Whatever.

499
jaunte  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:32:26am
500
lawhawk  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:32:35am

re: #419 The Pie Overlord!

They wanted the shoes?

The photo on the left is the superior one IMO. The one on the right isn’t bad, but gets you focusing away from what’s important, which is face and arms crossed in determination.

501
Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:32:55am

re: #465 jaunte

There’s a section of my book about lynching devoted to the complicity of white church leaders. So let me ask the obvious question: what are white preachers and Catholic priests saying in their services this morning about Wednesday’s deadly attack on our democracy.
10:30 AM * Jan 10, 2021

I posted this yesterday—it’s very much an answer, and they didn’t wait until Sunday. (The natural tendency to think of the RC as a monolithic bloc is very naive.)

littlegreenfootballs.com

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:33:38am
503
darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:33:43am

re: #495 jaunte

He’s going to have a “Remember the Alamo!” moment.

504
jaunte  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:34:47am

re: #503 darthstar

Celebrating a failed fantasy wall.

505
Belafon  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:35:12am

re: #498 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Ok. I hate this guy but he has a point. There’s, of course, a long thread. Whatever.

[Embedded content]

I need to find a transcript.

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lawhawk  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:35:31am

re: #467 Eclectic Cyborg

Hawley can still get a book deal. Regenery can still offer him terms.

He can self publish too. Of course, the title is already take: Mein Kampf.

507
Jay C  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:36:01am

re: #503 darthstar

He’s going to have a “Remember the Alamo!” moment.

It would be better if he had to remember it because no one (outside his staff and security) showed up…..

508
Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:36:18am

re: #497 Ace Rothstein

Now that’s the proper way to hold a rifle.
//

It’s a bullpup—everything on it is backwards.

509
darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:36:22am

Articles of impeachment can be found here:

Scribd Document

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lawhawk  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:36:52am

re: #503 darthstar

He’s going to have a “Remember the Alamo!” moment.

Yup. It’s not a mistake to get people thinking that he’s at the Alamo - which is in San Antonio. The name is what he’s trying to play on - the romantic notion that it was a stand against Mexico and led to Texas independence from Mexico.

He’s using that romantic notion to further his own insurrection against the US government.

511
William Lewis  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:37:18am

re: #457 Teukka

You know the theory that Jar Jar Binks was Darth Plagueis, right?

I would have actually made some sense out of a lot of otherwise stupid bits. Ah well…

512
Colère Tueur de Lapin  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:37:56am

re: #249 darthstar

Just read on dkos that one of the people who died was a woman who got trampled by other rioters while holding a Gadsden flag. Sounds a bit too funny to be true.

513
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:38:14am

Trump promised his followers on Jan 6th “I’ll be with you” and then went home to follow events on TV and Twitter.

They should disown him over that act of cowardice.

514
darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:39:11am
515
Ace Rothstein  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:40:12am

re: #500 lawhawk

The one with Harris wearing the Chucks is clearly a test frame. And if they thought that was worthy of a cover, well, they’re just wrong.

516
Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:41:20am

re: #513 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump promised his followers on Jan 6th “I’ll be with you” and then went home to follow events on TV and Twitter.

They should disown him over that act of cowardice.

He was at Khe Sanh in spirit.

517
darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:42:00am

re: #513 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Trump promised his followers on Jan 6th “I’ll be with you” and then went home to follow events on TV and Twitter.

They should disown him over that act of cowardice.

Well, can you imagine if he’d led them on foot? They’d have to stop so many times for him to catch his breath the electors would have been certified before they got there.

518
Belafon  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:43:13am

re: #516 Decatur Deb

He was at Khe San in spirit.

He obviously had a venereal disease to fight.

519
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:43:29am

re: #517 darthstar

Well, can you imagine if he’d led them on foot? They’d have to stop so many times for him to catch his breath the electors would have been certified before they got there.

Of course he could never have made it up all those steps on his own. But the fact was, it was an empty boast and promise…another example of him saying whatever he thinks people need to hear to get them to do what he wants them to do.

520
Thanos  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:45:11am

Must read thread

521
darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:45:41am

re: #419 The Pie Overlord!

Why did they go with such a lame photo when the one with the light blue jacket is clearly a much better shot?

[Embedded content]

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darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:47:15am

re: #519 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Of course he could never have made it up all those steps on his own. But the fact was, it was an empty boast and promise…another example of him saying whatever he thinks people need to hear to get them to do what he wants them to do.

I followed Trump’s orders and all I got was this lousy prison sentence.

523
jaunte  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:47:30am
524
DodgerFan1988  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:47:53am

Say his name.

525
thedopefishlives  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:48:13am

re: #519 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Of course he could never have made it up all those steps on his own. But the fact was, it was an empty boast and promise…another example of him saying whatever he thinks people need to hear to get them to do what he wants them to do.

He knew well beforehand that the Secret Service would never allow him to march with them.

526
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:48:51am

re: #525 thedopefishlives

He knew well beforehand that the Secret Service would never allow him to march with them.

again, another empty boast

527
Dr. Matt  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:50:08am

re: #1 austin_blue

I applaud Ma’s efforts.

He’s also the best cellist in the world.

Would be better if he covered Metallica.

/half sarc

528
darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:50:36am

re: #525 thedopefishlives

He knew well beforehand that the Secret Service would never allow him to march with them.

Even the failsons didn’t do it.

529
🌹UOJB!  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:51:30am

re: #528 darthstar

Even the failsons didn’t do it.

No they were too busy getting down on the dance floor to Laura Brannigan’s Gloria…

530
darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:51:32am
531
William Lewis  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:52:32am

re: #530 darthstar

Might not have been if it had been Dubya’s boys flying the jets…

532
Nyet  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:55:02am

re: #473 Teukka

No, FDR was an antifascist, not an antifa.

533
Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:55:48am

re: #532 Nyet

No, FDR was an antifascist, not an antifa.

Thank you.

534
lawhawk  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:56:11am

From the day of the attack:

There was coordination with the WH. That means every last one of the GOP treasonweasels in the WH are on the hook for felony murder.

535
Dr. Matt  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:56:33am

FLASHBACK from Kkkarl Rove following 9/11: “…liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers.”

536
Dr. Matt  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:57:33am

re: #534 lawhawk

From the day of the attack:

There was coordination with the WH. That means every last one of the GOP treasonweasels in the WH are on the hook for felony murder.

And there is emerging evidence there was coordination within both chambers as well.

537
Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:58:21am

Impeach that motherfucker and make him find his own way back.

538
Nyet  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:58:44am

re: #533 Decatur Deb

Thank you.

Because being an antifascist doesn’t make anyone a member of a marginal far-left movement not averse to violence.

539
darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:59:51am

On the positive side, I learned last night my MIL gets her first vaccination on Tuesday and the follow up is already scheduled - everyone in her retirement community, and staff.

540
Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 10, 2021 • 9:59:53am

He ain’t gonna say shit about the Border wall, he’s going to spend the whole time ranting about the election and social media companies.

541
darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 10:00:58am

re: #537 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Impeach that motherfucker and make him find his own way back.

[Embedded content]

That was my first thought. Impeach him on Monday and have the Senate convict before he lands in Texas on Wednesday.

542
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jan 10, 2021 • 10:01:57am

re: #538 Nyet

Because being an antifascist doesn’t make anyone a member of a marginal far-left movement not averse to violence.

The point is to mainstream modern fascist thinking by branding anyone who opposes modern fascism as a violent radical.

543
William Lewis  Jan 10, 2021 • 10:01:58am

re: #538 Nyet

Because being an antifascist doesn’t make anyone a mamber of a marginal far-left movement not averse to violence.

Shrug. Better AntiFa than not at all. See 145 above for my feelings on the subject.

544
Eclectic Cyborg  Jan 10, 2021 • 10:04:59am

re: #523 jaunte

147 people and I count 3 minorities. Wow, what a diverse party!

//

545
Teukka  Jan 10, 2021 • 10:08:48am
546
EstebanTornado1963  Jan 10, 2021 • 10:10:21am

Just doing my duty

547
Dr. Matt  Jan 10, 2021 • 10:11:29am

Rolling Stone has a slideshow of the terrorist attack. This pic caught my eye with the guy in the suit wearing a possible congressional pin. Anyone recognize him?

548
Teukka  Jan 10, 2021 • 10:14:33am

re: #546 EstebanTornado1963

Just doing my duty

[Embedded content]

549
The Pie Overlord!  Jan 10, 2021 • 10:15:05am

re: #500 lawhawk

They wanted the shoes?

The photo on the left is the superior one IMO. The one on the right isn’t bad, but gets you focusing away from what’s important, which is face and arms crossed in determination.

The shoes, yeah but, that godawful pink crinkled velvet background & green vomit back of background is enough to bring on seizures in vulnerable people.

550
DodgerFan1988  Jan 10, 2021 • 10:16:04am
551
A Mom Anon  Jan 10, 2021 • 10:16:54am

re: #474 darthstar

The guy from GA is the guy who paid for a digital QAnon billboard not far from my house. It was there for close to a year before it finally disappeared. Yeah, we have a LONG journey before GA can be considered anything less than a slightly lighter shade of red. There are a lot of these people around here. A lot.

552
Dr. Matt  Jan 10, 2021 • 10:17:01am

re: #550 DodgerFan1988

#BlueLivesMatter

553
BeachDem  Jan 10, 2021 • 10:17:08am

WTF?

“The president should be very careful over the next ten days,” Blunt said. “Now my personal view is that the president touched the hot stove on Wednesday and is unlikely to touch it again.”

These asshole make me want to scream.

554
Teukka  Jan 10, 2021 • 10:17:59am

Also, a heads up. Some rightio activists have taken to posting illegal forms of pornography in threads which displease them. One page to report such occurrences is:
help.twitter.com

555
FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  Jan 10, 2021 • 10:18:06am
556
PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2021 • 10:18:23am

re: #547 Dr. Matt

May be wrong but isn’t that the one who lost a book contract with Simon & Schuster?

557
lawhawk  Jan 10, 2021 • 10:19:59am

re: #553 BeachDem

WTF?

“The president should be very careful over the next ten days,” Blunt said. “Now my personal view is that the president touched the hot stove on Wednesday and is unlikely to touch it again.”

These asshole make me want to scream.

It’s the Susan Collins approach. Furrowed brow and hope he doesn’t do anything bad.

We know Trump will try again. He’s a murderous sociopath. He’s just learned that his sycophantic suckup GOP will cover up his crimes, even armed insurrection and a failed coup.

He just did the equivalent of murdering someone on Fifth Avenue and getting away with it - a cop no less.

558
PhillyPretzel  Jan 10, 2021 • 10:20:52am

re: #557 lawhawk

Yes. He did say he would do it too.

559
Dr. Matt  Jan 10, 2021 • 10:22:55am

😂😂😂

560
sagehen  Jan 10, 2021 • 10:23:03am

re: #305 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Okay, people. Time is short and we have a mission.

We have eleven days to put together a band named the Leftist Overloads in time for the inauguration.

Play any instruments or sing?

I can play tambourine, does that help? Or cowbell.

561
darthstar  Jan 10, 2021 • 10:26:03am
562
Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2021 • 10:28:08am

re: #554 Teukka

Also, a heads up. Some rightio activists have taken to posting illegal forms of pornography in threads which displease them. One page to report such occurrences is:
help.twitter.com

Should think that would be easily traceable.

563
🌹UOJB!  Jan 10, 2021 • 10:28:17am

You get this in an e-mail from a brainwashed relative and you wish that psychiatric hospitals were still open…

564
Decatur Deb  Jan 10, 2021 • 10:31:21am

re: #563 🌹UOJB!

You get this in an e-mail from a brainwashed relative and you wish that psychiatric hospitals were still open…

[Embedded content]

Does your relative like gladiator movies?

565
EstebanTornado1963  Jan 10, 2021 • 10:33:44am

re: #563 🌹UOJB!

You get this in an e-mail from a brainwashed relative and you wish that psychiatric hospitals were still open…

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