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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 2, 2021 • 9:55:12am

Too many people only see a clinic when they are taken to the Emergency Room for something that could have been treated a lot more cheaply with some basic therapy or prescriptions.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:00:56am

WHAT A SHOCKER!! //

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Targetpractice  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:03:52am

re: #2 The Pie Overlord!

WHAT A SHOCKER!! //

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Of course, we know the next step: An “official” report will be issued that insists that no fraud could be found outright, but enough “questions” were raised that they can’t rule it out. Which will lead to demands for yet another fraudit so that the grift…er, the “investigation” can continue.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:07:16am

So Ivermectin is the new Hydroxychloroquine? That’s what’s happening here?

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:08:36am

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

So Ivermectin is the new Hydroxychloroquine? That’s what’s happening here?

Precisely so.

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Targetpractice  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:09:42am

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

So Ivermectin is the new Hydroxychloroquine? That’s what’s happening here?

Yep. MHO? Somebody with a surplus of the shit on his hands started a rumor that it works as a COVID “cure.”

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JOE 🥓  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:09:49am

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

So Ivermectin is the new Hydroxychloroquine? That’s what’s happening here?

That’s the new “miracle drug” these quacks are pushing thanks to Marky Mark and @jerk…with a significant assist from Putin’s Posse in the GRU.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:10:16am

When Oliver reported that 19% of the ambulances in Chicago took over 7 minutes to reach their destination, my sole thought was — not exactly a surprise. My guess is that almost all such delays are due to traffic. Depending on the time of the day and weather, it can be a nightmare navigating Chicago streets.

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:12:30am

re: #6 Targetpractice

Yep. MHO? Somebody with a surplus of the shit on his hands started a rumor that it works as a COVID “cure.”

Actually, in this case, there was a study published that said Ivermectin was highly effective at preventing death in serious cases of COVID. Turns out, the study was fundamentally flawed, partially plagiarized, and eventually withdrawn shortly after publication - but that didn’t stop any of the anti-vaxxer idjits from continuing to promote the bogus study as a piece of serious evidence supporting their insane claims.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:13:09am

re: #8 Hecuba’s daughter

When Oliver reported that 19% of the ambulances in Chicago took over 7 minutes to reach their destination, my sole thought was — not exactly a surprise. My guess is that almost all such delays are due to traffic. Depending on the time of the day and weather, it can be a nightmare navigating Chicago streets.

Up and to the point of getting gridlocked on LSD during a blizzard!

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Targetpractice  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:13:27am

re: #9 Dopamine Fish

Actually, in this case, there was a study published that said Ivermectin was highly effective at preventing death in serious cases of COVID. Turns out, the study was fundamentally flawed, partially plagiarized, and eventually withdrawn shortly after publication - but that didn’t stop any of the anti-vaxxer idjits from continuing to promote the bogus study as a piece of serious evidence supporting their insane claims.

IOW, exactly like every other “study” that has pointed to a “cure.”

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:14:01am

re: #11 Targetpractice

IOW, exactly like every other “study” that has pointed to a “cure.”

Yep. I’m trying to find the article I read on this study, because it was really good. Stand by.

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Targetpractice  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:15:28am

Remember how Trump promised that we’d see 3%+ growth during his presidency? And the dumber of his cultists like to point to the one or two “boom” quarters to claim he achieved that? Yeah, not even close…

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lawhawk  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:16:01am

re: #8 Hecuba’s daughter

When Oliver reported that 19% of the ambulances in Chicago took over 7 minutes to reach their destination, my sole thought was — not exactly a surprise. My guess is that almost all such delays are due to traffic. Depending on the time of the day and weather, it can be a nightmare navigating Chicago streets.

NYC has similar issues with traffic during rush hour slowing response times. A few minute delay is difference between life and death for a heart attack or stroke victim for instance.

But for the Chicago authorities to indicate wait time is higher because they’re all out of ambulances, that is highly suggestive of something else at work and very wrong.

We make sure to donate to our volunteer ambulance service, because the life that they may save may be our own. It’s nuts that they have essentially had to do gofundmes for ambulance services because no one seems willing to pay for proper funding via govt services.

The biggest problem is that ambulances don’t get reimbursed for calls that don’t transport someone to a hospital. Those other calls are still costly, so they hike the recoup on everything else.

And air transport of sick patients is even more costly.

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:16:17am

Here’s the article: grftr.news

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:16:43am

re: #7 JOE 🥓

That’s the new “miracle drug” these quacks are pushing thanks to Marky Mark and @jerk…with a significant assist from Putin’s Posse in the GRU.

Let’s not forget Faux News and the WSJ — my Trumpster FB friend touted the medication by referencing a WSJ opinion piece written by 2 liars with no medical credentials, but one has a PhD in economics and the other has an M.S. in engineering.

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lawhawk  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:17:33am

re: #13 Targetpractice

Remember how Trump promised that we’d see 3%+ growth during his presidency? And the dumber of his cultists like to point to the one or two “boom” quarters to claim he achieved that? Yeah, not even close…

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Trump’s economic collapse thanks to his disastrous pandemic response makes all of that look even worse. Trump’s economy was already sliding into recession thanks to his trade war nonsense, and the pandemic pushed it into depression/recesson territory.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:18:17am

re: #6 Targetpractice

Yep. MHO? Somebody with a surplus of the shit on his hands started a rumor that it works as a COVID “cure.”

Hmmmm…..I actually have a small supply of Invermectin here at the Conspiracy Compound. Most people who have horses do. It also works on donkeys like our BLM rescue burros. The burros are MUCH smaller though, so dosage must be adjusted for body weight. The proportions are not a straight-line either but a fairly complex curve. Some idiots are going to die from this.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:23:05am

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

So Ivermectin is the new Hydroxychloroquine? That’s what’s happening here?

Because it is the Common Man’s Cure

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ericblair  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:23:25am

re: #16 Hecuba’s daughter

Let’s not forget Faux News and the WSJ — my Trumpster FB friend touted the medication by referencing a WSJ opinion piece written by 2 liars with no medical credentials, but one has a PhD in economics and the other has an M.S. in engineering.

It’s all about getting back at those smarty-pants egghead doctors who think they know it all. That’s part and parcel of soaking in conspiracy theories 24/7; it’s all about having the secret knowledge that others don’t. Most of the clickbait ads I and everyone else gets are about some rando sticking a household implement or vegetable in some orifice and how DOCTORS are STUNNED or WHAT THEY DON’T WANT YOU TO KNOW.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:23:50am

re: #8 Hecuba’s daughter

When Oliver reported that 19% of the ambulances in Chicago took over 7 minutes to reach their destination, my sole thought was — not exactly a surprise. My guess is that almost all such delays are due to traffic. Depending on the time of the day and weather, it can be a nightmare navigating Chicago streets.

Wait till winter when the streets aren’t plowed which I learned during that mean-assed winter of 1978-79!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:24:22am

re: #11 Targetpractice

IOW, exactly like every other “study” that has pointed to a “cure.”

But just enough so that somebody doing their Internet research on the toilet can find “irrefutable proof”.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:26:41am

re: #14 lawhawk

NYC has similar issues with traffic during rush hour slowing response times. A few minute delay is difference between life and death for a heart attack or stroke victim for instance.

But for the Chicago authorities to indicate wait time is higher because they’re all out of ambulances, that is highly suggestive of something else at work and very wrong.

I don’t think that was a general comment — but a problem with the delay in one situation.

And air transport of sick patients is even more costly.

When my husband’s situation (about a month before he died) had turn dire, Highland Park hospital arranged a helicopter to transfer him to Billings Hospital on the South Side of Chicago. We never paid any charges related to that transport.

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Mattand  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:26:45am

re: #8 Hecuba’s daughter

When Oliver reported that 19% of the ambulances in Chicago took over 7 minutes to reach their destination, my sole thought was — not exactly a surprise. My guess is that almost all such delays are due to traffic. Depending on the time of the day and weather, it can be a nightmare navigating Chicago streets.

Given the research that Oliver normally does, I’d like to think that’s correct. That said: I don’t think he’s even above gilding the lily to drive a point home. Whenever I’m in Center City Philly and I see an EMS vehicle go by, it’s trying to navigate traffic-choked streets, even into the later hour.

I can’t even imagine being an ambulance driver in NYC. Seven minutes doesn’t sound unreasonable, unless there’s some sort of metric that go omitted in his statement.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:27:21am

re: #19 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because it is the Common Man’s Cure

The…KKKommon Man’s KKKure!

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Dangerman  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:29:18am

re: #9 Dopamine Fish

Actually, in this case, there was a study published that said Ivermectin was highly effective at preventing death in serious cases of COVID. Turns out, the study was fundamentally flawed, partially plagiarized, and eventually withdrawn shortly after publication - but that didn’t stop any of the anti-vaxxer idjits from continuing to promote the bogus study as a piece of serious evidence supporting their insane claims.

But even that doesn’t mean its a preventative

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:30:18am

re: #25 JOE 🥓

The…KKKommon Man’s KKKure!

The robes make for a convenient winding sheet when things don’t quite work out the way they think it will.
///

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:30:29am

re: #26 Dangerman

But even that doesn’t mean its a preventative

It’s not, not even according to the study they cite, but remember, we’re dealing with the common clay here. You know, morons.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:34:15am

Why do I have the sneaking suspicion that Joe Flynn got the shots and he’s lying about it just like his fellow traitor brother?

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:34:22am

Maybe a lawyer can weigh in on this, but haven’t Republicans established that they don’t have to respond to House subpoenas if they don’t feel like it?

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Dangerman  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:35:48am

re: #17 lawhawk

Trump’s economic collapse thanks to his disastrous pandemic response makes all of that look even worse. Trump’s economy was already sliding into recession thanks to his trade war nonsense, and the pandemic pushed it into depression/recesson territory.

But but but 2017 tax cuts something something 6% growth magic!!!!

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lawhawk  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:36:49am

re: #31 Dangerman

But but but 2017 tax cuts something something 6% growth magic!!!!

Only thing the TCJA of 2017 did was accelerate the wealth building of billionaires and redistribution of wealth from everyone else.

It did not grow the economy.

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Dangerman  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:38:11am

re: #20 ericblair

It’s all about getting back at those smarty-pants egghead doctors who think they know it all. That’s part and parcel of soaking in conspiracy theories 24/7; it’s all about having the secret knowledge that others don’t. Most of the clickbait ads I and everyone else gets are about some rando sticking a household implement or vegetable in some orifice and how DOCTORS are STUNNED or WHAT THEY DON’T WANT YOU TO KNOW.

STUNNED by the stupidity

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Targetpractice  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:38:19am

re: #20 ericblair

It’s all about getting back at those smarty-pants egghead doctors who think they know it all. That’s part and parcel of soaking in conspiracy theories 24/7; it’s all about having the secret knowledge that others don’t. Most of the clickbait ads I and everyone else gets are about some rando sticking a household implement or vegetable in some orifice and how DOCTORS are STUNNED or WHAT THEY DON’T WANT YOU TO KNOW.

It’s the same two words as always: “confirmation bias.” These yahoos largely grew up being told by their parents and grandparents that doctors are all “quacks” who do nothing but take your vitals, scratch off a prescription for a bunch of pills, and then send you outrageously high bills. And that half the stuff they give you doesn’t work, the other half just makes you sicker, so you’re better off look for “home remedies” which are not only cheap but offer that good ol’ placebo effect. So they look for studies that promise cheap “cures” in common products/medicines and reject ones that say that the medically-approved treatment actually works.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:40:52am

re: #20 ericblair

Most of the clickbait ads I and everyone else gets are about some rando sticking a household implement or vegetable in some orifice and how DOCTORS are STUNNED or WHAT THEY DON’T WANT YOU TO KNOW.

An emergency room doctor friend of mine was indeed stunned by what people had stuck up there.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:41:15am

re: #34 Targetpractice

It’s the same two words as always: “confirmation bias.” These yahoos largely grew up being told by their parents and grandparents that doctors are all “quacks” who do nothing but take your vitals, scratch off a prescription for a bunch of pills, and then send you outrageously high bills. And that half the stuff they give you doesn’t work, the other half just makes you sicker, so you’re better off look for “home remedies” which are not only cheap but offer that good ol’ placebo effect. So they look for studies that promise cheap “cures” in common products/medicines and reject ones that say that the medically-approved treatment actually works.

Just like the 1960s medical experts telling you that
“One pill makes you larger
And one pill makes you small,
And the ones that mother gives you
Don’t do anything at all.”

// :)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:42:20am

healing crystals!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:43:30am

re: #3 Targetpractice

Of course, we know the next step: An “official” report will be issued that insists that no fraud could be found outright, but enough “questions” were raised that they can’t rule it out. Which will lead to demands for yet another fraudit so that the grift…er, the “investigation” can continue.

You give way too much credit to these liars. They’re going to cite chapter and verse over 100 pages showing exactly how it was stolen. Not a word will be true but that’s the GQP way.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:44:48am

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

So Ivermectin is the new Hydroxychloroquine? That’s what’s happening here?

Let em die. They want to die so badly, who are we to stand in the way of their death wishes? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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JOE 🥓  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:45:00am

re: #34 Targetpractice

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Dangerman  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:45:43am
Seventy percent of U.S. adults have received at least one dose of a Covid-19 vaccine, a key milestone in the fight against the pandemic that the country hit nearly a month later than President Joe Biden had hoped,” Bloomberg reports.

Less than a month after Biden had wanted
And he only missed by like 3%

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lawhawk  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:48:47am

re: #41 Dangerman

Less than a month after Biden had wanted
And he only missed by like 3%

With GOP controlled states still significantly lagging in vaccination rates - as if on purpose to stick it to Biden, and their own residents.

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Targetpractice  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:49:00am

Your daily…well, more like hourly…reminder of how everything these assholes say is IMAX-level projection:

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JOE 🥓  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:51:12am

re: #35 jaunte

An emergency room doctor friend of mine was indeed stunned by what people had stuck up there.

Don’t get me started about disability claims I’ve handled…

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Dangerman  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:51:37am
An official resigned as chairman of a county board in Michigan, the latest fallout from his decision to give himself a $25,000 bonus with federal COVID-19 relief money and reward others in the community,” the Associated Press reports.

“Jeremy Root (R) will remain one of seven Shiawassee County commissioners but will no longer lead the board

R. Its always the R.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:51:38am

OH SHIT

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Targetpractice  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:53:17am

re: #40 JOE 🥓

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calochortus  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:54:17am

re: #35 jaunte

An emergency room doctor friend of mine was indeed stunned by what people had stuck up there.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:55:48am

re: #48 calochortus

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:56:19am

Germans are big into herbal teas and cures (you can fine one for everything from bronchial congestion to toe warts) but they generally don’t see these as excluding “conventional” medicine, just as an added layer of defense.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:56:30am

Easy does it.

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calochortus  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:56:45am

re: #49 jaunte

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:58:44am
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Dangerman  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:59:31am

States with high vaccinate rates are not experiencing surges in hospitalizations and deaths, but the same is not true in states with low vaccination rates.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 10:59:53am

(from yesterday)

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Dangerman  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:01:00am

re: #49 jaunte

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danarchy  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:01:19am

re: #6 Targetpractice

Yep. MHO? Somebody with a surplus of the shit on his hands started a rumor that it works as a COVID “cure.”

It’s weird, it is all based on a preprint study that got passed around. I can’t for the life of me figure out why people accept a single study with shaky findings by a single group, but not what is now one of the most studied vaccines in history, that the scientific community almost universally says is safe and effective.

I think this is what got it started:
Nature

So it looks like the code that detects phone numbers is overzealous. Can’t figure out how to get it to accept the link, but if you google:
The mechanisms of action of Ivermectin against SARS-CoV-2: An evidence-based clinical review article

the nature link will pop up.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:02:22am
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calochortus  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:02:52am

re: #57 danarchy

Confirmation bias and a desire to have hidden knowledge that shows them to be smarter than people who spent years learning about the subject matter.

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Dangerman  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:03:22am

re: #57 danarchy

It’s weird, it is all based on a preprint study that got passed around. I can’t for the life of me figure out why people accept a single study with shaky findings by a single group, but not what is now one of the most studied vaccines in history, that the scientific community almost universally says is safe and effective.

I think this is what got it started:
nature.com[no phone numbers allowed]0-5

Printed
With footnotes and references
Looks official, like so much other stuff
So it must be true

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:06:52am

Just got a call from Rand Paul’s office inviting me to take part in a virtual/telephone townhall.

LOL, very tempting but NOPE!

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Jay C  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:07:03am

re: #49 jaunte

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:07:48am

re: #60 Dangerman

Printed
With footnotes and references
Looks official, like so much other stuff
So it must be true

They don’t believe stuff peer reviewed in the JAMA, but this? No problemo.

It’s confusing to say the least.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:08:45am

re: #59 calochortus

Confirmation bias and a desire to have hidden knowledge that shows them to be smarter than people who spent years learning about the subject matter.

This is America: everyone is entitled to express their opinion except experts who have actually studied the subject under discussion.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:09:56am
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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:09:59am

re: #40 JOE 🥓

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lawhawk  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:10:55am

re: #60 Dangerman

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:12:28am

Cow Pies will be served.

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Belafon  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:13:44am

re: #65 Backwoods_Sleuth

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How to say “I want to beat my governor” nicely.

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Targetpractice  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:17:39am

re: #57 danarchy

It’s weird, it is all based on a preprint study that got passed around. I can’t for the life of me figure out why people accept a single study with shaky findings by a single group, but not what is now one of the most studied vaccines in history, that the scientific community almost universally says is safe and effective.

I think this is what got it started:
Nature

So it looks like the code that detects phone numbers is overzealous. Can’t figure out how to get it to accept the link, but if you google:
The mechanisms of action of Ivermectin against SARS-CoV-2: An evidence-based clinical review article

the nature link will pop up.

Well, we have to remember that the MAGAt faith in HCQ started with a single French study published in a magazine owned by the doctor who conducted it, made wild claims about not only the effectiveness of the drug as a “cure” but also a prophylactic, refused to release crucial details about how it was conducted, and to this day has been totally impossible to reproduce. So this is actually par for the course.

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calochortus  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:17:42am

re: #65 Backwoods_Sleuth

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JOE 🥓  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:19:34am

re: #48 calochortus

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:20:00am

re: #68 The Pie Overlord!

Cow Pies will be served.

They’ll be selling those Trump pies on eBay.

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lawhawk  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:20:52am

re: #68 The Pie Overlord!

Cow Pies will be served.

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danarchy  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:21:19am

re: #70 Targetpractice

Well, we have to remember that the MAGAt faith in HCQ started with a single French study published in a magazine owned by the doctor who conducted it, made wild claims about not only the effectiveness of the drug as a “cure” but also a prophylactic, refused to release crucial details about how it was conducted, and to this day has been totally impossible to reproduce. So this is actually par for the course.

The HCQ thing I can almost understand. It was early in the pandemic, there weren’t any good treatments, nobody really knew anything and people were desperate for some sort of magic bullet that would let things get back to normal. Now we actually have the freaking magic bullet and the same people refuse it!

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:27:41am
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JOE 🥓  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:27:41am

re: #68 The Pie Overlord!

Cow Pies will be served.

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JIM STAFFORD - Cow Patti (1981) Original Studio Version!

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Dangerman  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:29:15am

re: #66 Hecuba’s daughter

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calochortus  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:32:32am

re: #71 calochortus

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:33:43am

re: #68 The Pie Overlord!

Cow Pies will be served.

This is another example of how cheap Trump is. He doesn’t want to pay for an actual venue, so he found some farmer who was probably happy to host Trump for next to nothing instead.

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:36:27am

re: #19 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Because it is the Common Man’s Cure

A long time friend with connections & cred, told me the Pfizer booster shot being given in Israel is not tweeked for Delta, but the same as Pfizer shots 1 & 2.

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Dangerman  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:37:16am

re: #80 Eclectic Cyborg

This is another example of how cheap Trump is. He doesn’t want to pay for an actual venue, so he found some farmer who was probably happy to host Trump for next to nothing instead.

They’ll be immortalizing it in song like yazgur’s farm.

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Dangerman  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:39:21am
DeSantis threatens to withhold funding over school mask mandates

I will not have people doing something effective

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:40:20am

re: #76 jaunte

That was a very terse and to-the-point smackdown of the anti-vaxx bulkshit.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:40:50am

re: #82 Dangerman

They’ll be immortalizing it in song like yazgur’s farm.

(White) Hoodstock?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:41:51am

re: #83 Dangerman

I will not have people doing something effective

That’s punishing the kids twice over.

What an asshole.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:44:59am

1145 AM, 90 degrees…

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:46:28am

re: #83 Dangerman

I will not have people doing something effective

Okay, riddle me this: Republicans’ big push is that they want to do away with COVID protocols to boost the economy. What does forbidding COVID protocols in schools have to do with the economy? They are not a business; the only economic revenue they generate is from events they hold, and the money is usually reinvested directly back into the school.

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:49:25am
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Dangerman  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:49:36am

re: #88 Dopamine Fish

Okay, riddle me this: Republicans’ big push is that they want to do away with COVID protocols to boost the economy. What does forbidding COVID protocols in schools have to do with the economy? They are not a business; the only economic revenue they generate is from events they hold, and the money is usually reinvested directly back into the school.

something something muh freedums

if i tried to untangle any of their ‘logic’ my head would explode

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:50:57am
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jaunte  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:51:33am

re: #88 Dopamine Fish

They don’t mind killing people in Teachers Unions.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:52:30am

I phoned a friend and her husband answered. We chatted for a few moments and he expressed his view that he didn’t think indoor dining was more dangerous than outdoor dining and also expressed his understanding of those who did not want to vaccinate and were concerned they may be harmed (note: both he and his wife are vaccinated). But then he expressed his total bafflement about those who refuse to mask. He thought it was a ridiculous attitude about a simple action that does not harm anyone.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:53:00am
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sagehen  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:53:10am

re: #88 Dopamine Fish

Okay, riddle me this: Republicans’ big push is that they want to do away with COVID protocols to boost the economy. What does forbidding COVID protocols in schools have to do with the economy? They are not a business; the only economic revenue they generate is from events they hold, and the money is usually reinvested directly back into the school.

Schools boost the economy by getting kids out of the house, so parents can go to work.

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calochortus  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:53:42am

re: #89 jaunte

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:54:59am

re: #89 jaunte

Uh, the Spanish Flu is generally believed to have killed at least 30 million people, if not many more than that.

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:55:33am

re: #97 Eclectic Cyborg

Uh, the Spanish Flu is generally believed to have killed at least 30 million people, if not many more than that.

“Some of you may die, but that’s a sacrifice I am willing to make.”

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Dave In Austin  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:55:35am
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calochortus  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:55:48am

re: #93 Hecuba’s daughter

I phoned a friend and her husband answered. We chatted for a few moments and he expressed his view that he didn’t think indoor dining was more dangerous than outdoor dining and also expressed his understanding of those who did not want to vaccinate and were concerned they may be harmed (note: both he and his wife are vaccinated). But then he expressed his total bafflement about those who refuse to mask. He thought it was a ridiculous attitude about a simple action that does not harm anyone.

And not requiring vaccination will be just great. Just as soon as everyone can be vaccinated (which will actually never quite happen, but who cares about the immunocompromised anyway.)

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:56:27am

Fast Eddie Vrdolyak sentenced to 18 months for tax evasion.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:56:31am

re: #98 Dopamine Fish

“Some of you may die, but that’s a sacrifice I am willing to make.”

Funny thing about the Spanish Flu: It ripped right the fuck through many royal families in Europe.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:57:16am

re: #102 Eclectic Cyborg

Funny thing about the Spanish Flu: It ripped right the fuck through many royal families in Europe.

All inbred and immunocompromised

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 11:58:00am
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Dr Lizardo  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:00:58pm

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

LOL maybe Gibson should’ve gone for something more subtle, like, I don’t know, The Rise and Fall of Jewy McJewface.

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lawhawk  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:01:23pm
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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:01:50pm

re: #71 calochortus

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:05:37pm
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calochortus  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:07:02pm

re: #107 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

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sagehen  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:07:42pm

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

The Rothschilds: A Musical: Rothschild and Sons

The musical stars Hal Linden (Barney Miller) as Mayer Rothschild.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:07:48pm
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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:07:49pm

re: #72 JOE 🥓

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A MD friend in ER had a patient with a potato in the wrong end of the alimentary canal.

He removed the potato and sent it up to pathology for testing.

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calochortus  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:08:38pm

re: #112 BeenHereAwhile

A MD friend in ER had a patient with a potato in the wrong end of the alimentary canal.

He removed the potato and sent it up to pathology for testing.

Testing for what?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:09:48pm
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darthstar  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:10:07pm

Lindsey Graham has Covid-19 - yeah, he’s vaxxed…but at least he’s symptomatic.

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sizzzzlerz  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:10:53pm

re: #35 jaunte

An emergency room doctor friend of mine was indeed stunned by what people had stuck up there.

Million to one shot, Doc. Million to one.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:10:53pm

re: #113 calochortus

“A MD friend in ER had a patient with a potato in the wrong end of the alimentary canal.

He removed the potato and sent it up to pathology for testing.”

Testing for what?

To see if the potato was male or female

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:11:55pm

re: #109 calochortus

I really don’t feel able to judge that — but a large cohort of anti-science morons with facebook to bring them together and twitter to amplify their nonsense might make anyone cautious.

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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:12:43pm

re: #82 Dangerman

They’ll be immortalizing it in song like yazgur’s farm.

Somebody needs to call Hugh Romney AKA Wavy Gravy, and the Hog Farmers.

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sizzzzlerz  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:13:06pm

re: #38 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I bet they blame the county for not providing the “routers” or the voting machines and their source code that they had demanded.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:13:59pm
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Dopamine Fish  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:14:09pm

re: #120 sizzzzlerz

I bet they blame the county for not providing the “routers” or the voting machines and their source code that they had demanded.

Yep, plus there was some password they were convinced the county had that they didn’t, and then they asked the voting machine company for it and they were like, “Fuck no, we aren’t giving you that password, are you stupid?”

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calochortus  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:14:13pm

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

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This is not the only union that doesn’t want mandates. I do not understand.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:15:00pm

So, I’ll leave you all with this glorious, nightmare vision of stop-motion animation.

Trailer for Phil Tippet’s Mad God.

Phil Tippett’s Mad God - Official Teaser Trailer (2021)

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:15:05pm

re: #123 calochortus

This is not the only union that doesn’t want mandates. I do not understand.

indeed, postal workers, too

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:16:06pm

re: #115 darthstar

Lindsey Graham has Covid-19 - yeah, he’s vaxxed…but at least he’s symptomatic.

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gwangung  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:17:33pm

Some back of the envelope calculations on vaccine effectiveness on Delta:

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:18:15pm
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BeenHereAwhile  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:19:22pm

re: #113 calochortus

Testing for what?

He wanted to add a 5th humor, ER humor.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:20:00pm

that’ll do it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:22:07pm

re: #131 steve_davis

Not a Protestant. The mega churches were not part of the reformation. Think of it this way: Methodists, baptists, Episcopalians are all fine giving each other communion. I doubt mega church congregations even practice communion.

By that argument, no Protestant church is part of the Reformation except Lutherans.

Mega-church is somewhat of an imprecise term. Is St. Peter’s Basilica a mega-church?

Mega-church pastors part of the Evangelical tradition are absolutely Protestants. The Evangelical movement itself dates back to XVII Century England.

Anyway, it’s not for me to sort out the internecine fighting between different sects. “Christian” is good enough for me, since the principal requirement of any church is a belief in Christ.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:23:00pm

re: #122 Dopamine Fish

Yep, plus there was some password they were convinced the county had that they didn’t, and then they asked the voting machine company for it and they were like, “Fuck no, we aren’t giving you that password, are you stupid?”

you mean the one that would have allowed them to go in and change the vote tallies?

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:24:09pm

re: #107 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:24:29pm

re: #132 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

you mean the one that would have allowed them to go in and change the vote tallies?

I don’t actually remember what it was meant to give them access to, only that the voting machine company was EXTREMELY adamant that they would not get that password, even if Hell itself froze over.

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lawhawk  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:24:54pm
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JOE 🥓  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:24:54pm

re: #101 Eric The Fruit Bat

Fast Eddie Vrdolyak sentenced to 18 months for tax evasion.

He’s still around?

Damn I remember him back in the days when Bilandic was mayor!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:25:08pm

re: #131 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

By that argument, no Protestant church is part of the Reformation except Lutherans.

Mega-church is somewhat of an imprecise term. Is St. Peter’s Basilica a mega-church?

Mega-church pastors part of the Evangelical tradition are absolutely Protestants. The Evangelical movement itself dates back to XVII Century England.

Anyway, it’s not for me to sort out the internecine fighting between different sects. “Christian” is good enough for me, since the principal requirement of any church is a belief in Christ.

I also make a big distinction between Biblical literalists and people who understand that the scriptures are allegorical and open to interpretation.

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calochortus  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:25:23pm

SF Bay Area counties are reinstituting indoor mask mandates.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:25:35pm

re: #1 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Too many people only see a clinic when they are taken to the Emergency Room for something that could have been treated a lot more cheaply with some basic therapy or prescriptions.

My mother was not taking the necessary medications for three months from her aneurysm surgery several years ago, for lack of money. She was only able to restart her medications when we sent her several thousand dollars.

Therapy and prescriptions often aren’t cheap, and are a good argument for socialised medicine.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:28:13pm

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My mother was not taking the necessary medications for three months from her aneurysm surgery several years ago, for lack of money. She was only able to restart her medications when we sent her several thousand dollars.

Therapy and prescriptions often aren’t cheap, and are a good argument for socialised medicine.

That is exactly the point. ER’s are expensive, and visited by people who often have no means to pay for the life-saving treatment/operation they get…at which point the clinic/hospital has to eat the costs and pass those losses along…to the shrinking pool of people who can still afford insurance .

That is just too much math for a lot of people to grasp.

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calochortus  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:29:27pm

And speaking of masks, it’s time to slap one on and run some errands.
BBL

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:31:06pm

re: #141 calochortus

And speaking of masks, it’s time to slap one on and run some errands.
BBL

My county and the county I work in both got bumped up over the past week, so it is now technically time for me to go back to masking again. Dammit, assholes!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:34:07pm
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A Mom Anon  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:35:15pm

re: #139 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I had a horrible time getting a two antibiotic treatment for H.Pylori. I couldn’t swallow pills at the time because acid reflux from the bacteria created a stricture in my esophagus. I had to go to a second specialist to get liquid antibiotics that would both kill the bacteria and not make the acid worse. Fun times. It took almost 6 weeks to battle that out, time that could have been spent getting better. The GI doc could have prescribed the meds, I even asked him about the two the infectious diseases specialist ended up prescribing and he wouldn’t do it. This whole process has been a nightmare for me, and I honestly do think some of it has to do with not being taken seriously. No one should have to deal with this shit at all, let alone while sick. There has to be a better way to do all of this, and we can’t because “oh no, that’s socialism”. It fucking pisses me off, if you couldn’t guess.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:37:28pm

On the subject of EMS Mr. Oliver notes, the structure of my village’s EMS is a part of the rural fire brigade, which is a not-for-profit organisation. It is paid for mostly though donations and partially through transfers from the village budget.

A person who lives within the rural fire district (not just the village) does not pay for ambulance rides (though they can be billed for materials required during that ride).

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retired cynic  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:41:57pm

re: #144 A Mom Anon

I hope you are finally better!

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JOE 🥓  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:42:46pm

DAMN…

The Metropolitan Police Department said on Monday that a Washington, D.C. officer who responded to the attack on the U.S. Capitol has died of suicide.

rawstory.com

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retired cynic  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:44:43pm

Silky Flowers Spring from CJ Hendry’s Enormous Hyperrealistic Drawings in Colored Pencil
thisiscolossal.com

Trust me. Go to the link and see those images embiggened!

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nines09  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:45:06pm

When I walk away he goes into action.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:48:43pm

re: #147 JOE 🥓

DAMN…

The Metropolitan Police Department said on Monday that a Washington, D.C. officer who responded to the attack on the U.S. Capitol has died of suicide.

rawstory.com

May his memory be a blessing.
On the other side, the entire fucking Trump cult is about to die of suicide.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:49:02pm

re: #145 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The hospital closest to us spent over 30 million dollars to build a sparkly new ER with a pediatric ER attached. I ended up there when food got caught in the above mentioned stricture on my throat. I was refused an endoscopy to see if the food could be removed. My treatment in the ER? A small can of ginger ale with the instruction to jump around while drinking it. I spent less than 5 minutes with a doctor. They tried to charge me nearly 3 grand for that. I wasn’t taken seriously because I could still breathe and talk, even though I could barely swallow. I spent a total of 10 hours on urgent care and the ER. They told me they did not have an endoscope in the ER. Bullshit, especially when they have a pediatric ER next door. We have to do better here, the system fails way too many people every damned day.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:53:17pm

So Lindsay Graham has Covid.

And this comes one week after the GOP threw a shitfit because Nancy Pelosi dared require masks to be worn in the House of Representatives.

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A Mom Anon  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:53:21pm

re: #146 retired cynic

I feel lots better now, I have to go get tested for the bacteria again in a couple weeks, that determines what happens next. I can eat again, and actually swallow capsules again, but some things are off limits pretty much forever, like caffeine and NSAIDS. No alcohol either. I hope I can get back to taking vitamins again(I am anemic so I need to take iron), the doc will let me know after my test.

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:53:56pm

re: #147 JOE 🥓

DAMN…

The Metropolitan Police Department said on Monday that a Washington, D.C. officer who responded to the attack on the U.S. Capitol has died of suicide.

rawstory.com

FUCK!

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Aug 2, 2021 • 12:55:35pm
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(((Archangel1)))  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:02:59pm

re: #121 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

Think it’s safe to say this is a Valinor flashback, given that the show takes place much later in the Second Age.

Huge Tolkien fan, so really really really hoping this ends up being a good adaptation.

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nines09  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:06:00pm

Wife just told me Lady Gag was on Manchin boat?

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darthstar  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:09:19pm
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steve_davis  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:09:20pm

I was gone for 5 minutes down to the mailbox. In that time, Jesse had determined how to angle herself so to get outside when I had to briefly reposition the child gate. I could have probably wrangled her back in, but the girl just absolutely loves her outdoors time. I guess I’ll be sleeping with the front door open so she can get back in side if I go to bed later.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:10:17pm

re: #154 Dopamine Fish

FUCK!

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darthstar  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:10:56pm

re: #157 nines09

Wife just told me Lady Gag was on Manchin boat?

Covid isn’t transferred via those bodily fluids.

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nines09  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:13:16pm

re: #161 darthstar

And here I thought it was because male escorts don’t do remote gigs….

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:13:27pm

re: #157 nines09

Wife just told me Lady Gag was on Manchin boat?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:15:00pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:15:20pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:16:42pm

re: #163 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:18:57pm

I was feeling so happy in June when it seemed like this thing was on the way out.

FUCK anti-vaxxers, man.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:19:19pm

re: #133 Hecuba’s daughter

[Embedded content]

Which would make anger at the CDC even more misplaced. 😉

I don’t recall exactly who approves what, or what the process is. For the rest, yes, that’s what I said too.

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:19:59pm

Oh God, why is “impeach Biden” trending on Twitter? What are these asshats saying now?

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darthstar  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:20:36pm
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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:20:45pm

re: #138 calochortus

I haven’t seen that yet, where did you find it? (although masks are almost universally required here).

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:20:59pm

re: #169 Dopamine Fish

Oh God, why is “impeach Biden” trending on Twitter? What are these asshats saying now?

Probably that’s he’s responsible for this new surge.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:21:09pm

re: #169 Dopamine Fish

Oh God, why is “impeach Biden” trending on Twitter? What are these asshats saying now?

probably the eviction thing
or infrastructure week
or covid
or Hunter
or…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:21:44pm

re: #173 Backwoods_Sleuth

Exactly. Spin the fucking conspiracy wheel and take your pick.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:22:11pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:23:23pm
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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:24:39pm

re: #153 A Mom Anon

I feel lots better now, I have to go get tested for the bacteria again in a couple weeks, that determines what happens next. I can eat again, and actually swallow capsules again, but some things are off limits pretty much forever, like caffeine and NSAIDS. No alcohol either. I hope I can get back to taking vitamins again(I am anemic so I need to take iron), the doc will let me know after my test.

Blackstrap molasses is very rich in iron.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:25:05pm
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:25:39pm

re: #156 (((Archangel1)))

The date kept being pushed back. Was originally supposed to be this fall, then the pandemic happened.

Supposedly principle shooting ended this week. That means Amazon is going to take a full year for post production of a TV series???

Also:

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William Lewis  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:30:47pm

Here’s a prototypical rap tune …

Noel Coward “Mad Dogs and Englishmen” (1955)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:33:13pm

re: #179 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Translation: I don’t want to see any gay characters on this show.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:33:47pm
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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:34:07pm

re: #179 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Because if you’re doing a period drama (even when the “period” is the Second Age of Middle Earth) you shouldn’t introduce anachronisms.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:35:35pm

re: #181 Eclectic Cyborg

Translation: I don’t want to see any gay characters on this show.

I’ll go you one better. I don’t want to see anything resembling sex in the show. Because that’s not what Tolkien is about.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:37:21pm

re: #183 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

One of the better versions of Hamlet I saw, live, was adapting it to a modern city, even with black actors.

Note that Tolkien’s “period” is completely fantasy. While the underlying religiosity and monarchical societies he presents are drawn from medieval European ideas and history, the Second Age of Middle Earth is itself completely fantasy.

It’s all made up.

All of it.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:40:26pm

re: #185 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

One of the better versions of Hamlet I saw, live, was adapting it to a modern city, even with black actors.

Note that Tolkien’s “period” is completely fantasy. While the underlying religiosity and monarchical societies he presents are drawn from medieval European ideas and history, the Second Age of Middle Earth is itself completely fantasy.

It’s all made up.

All of it.

Sure. Your point?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:41:00pm

re: #181 Eclectic Cyborg

Translation: I don’t want to see any gay characters on this show.

Brown people.

The cast has brown people.

And Amazon has a corporate policy for diversity.

Those two things have been glommed onto by the young-ish brigade of the MAGA-universe.

re: #186 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

See above.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:43:01pm

re: #184 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

I’ll go you one better. I don’t want to see anything resembling sex in the show. Because that’s not what Tolkien is about.

I should probably add that I don’t care what species, sex, gender, color or whatever the actors are. I do care that it stays faithful to the world that Tolkien created. If you don’t like that world, make another one of your own.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:43:05pm

re: #68 The Pie Overlord!

Cow Pies will be served.

The MAGAts will gulp them down and beg for seconds.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:52:02pm

re: #181 Eclectic Cyborg

Translation: I don’t want to see any gay characters on this show.

There are hobbits, elves, dwarves, orcs, trolls, wizards, ents, dragons and balrogs in Middle Earth, but no people of color.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:52:24pm

re: #169 Dopamine Fish

Oh God, why is “impeach Biden” trending on Twitter? What are these asshats saying now?

The MAGATS are throwing a fit on Twitter.

Meanwhile my batshit brainwashed relatives insist that Crackhead Mike is going to take Joe and Kamala down on the 13th.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:53:22pm

re: #185 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

One of the better versions of Hamlet I saw, live, was adapting it to a modern city, even with black actors.

Note that Tolkien’s “period” is completely fantasy. While the underlying religiosity and monarchical societies he presents are drawn from medieval European ideas and history, the Second Age of Middle Earth is itself completely fantasy.

It’s all made up.

All of it.

I’ve always preferred modern adaptations of Shakespeare as long as the dialogue is strictly Shakespeare, but the setting, the attire, and the verbal intonations and actions are more contemporary. One of my favorite Hamlets (which I’ve seen at least 25 times — both live and on the screen) was performed at a small local theater, where Polonius was taping all his conversations with every character, and seemed more malevolent rather than a fool.

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JOE 🥓  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:53:27pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:55:38pm

re: #194 JOE 🥓

Biden did not close the northern border, Trudeau did.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:56:09pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:56:33pm

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

So Ivermectin is the new Hydroxychloroquine? That’s what’s happening here?

It is, but hydroxychloroquine is now also a tenet of their religion. Religions never give up tenets, so it might be properly called a new window-dressing for their faith, rather than a replacement window-dressing.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:56:38pm

re: #194 JOE 🥓

“It is time to impeach Biden for jeopardizing our national security. Thousands of illegals are being bused all over this country, many of them are Covid positive. Biden refusal to shut down the southern border, even after closing northern border, is grounds for impeachment.”

This is the GOP party line — that the spread of Delta is due to the invasion of illegal immigrants rather than the unvaccinated who are trying to destroy the Biden administration.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:57:41pm

re: #195 The Pie Overlord!

Biden did not close the northern border, Trudeau did.

THIS.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 2, 2021 • 1:58:45pm

re: #189 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

I should probably add that I don’t care what species, sex, gender, color or whatever the actors are. I do care that it stays faithful to the world that Tolkien created. If you don’t like that world, make another one of your own.

Here’s the thing about literature, especially the unpublished collected notes of a writer (which was the original source for this Amazon series, even if the Tolkien estate under his son Christopher did publish lots of stuff posthumously), and especially true of Tolkien where his writings were driven by philology as much as anything else:

We make our own image, in our own minds, when reading a story.

What you may think is “Tolkien” is your interpretation of his what he wrote.

Think of it this way: when Shakespeare premiered his plays there were no such thing as electric lights. Yet pretty much every presentation of one of his plays today includes sets that are constructed (sometimes elaborately) and lit electrically (often with theatrical dramatic lighting.) All of that is added to what Shakespeare wrote, and if we could bring him forward via time-travel, he may even be offended by some of the “faithful” renditions of his work.

The Tolkien fandom is split hard currently on this Amazon thing. There are no end of posts whining about the diversity statement that Amazon has across its corporation.

As for sex: nowhere, and I mean nowhere, has Amazon hinted at explicitly erotic scenes. Yet there are also some, and it sounds like you too, who have this fear there will be. But again, there is no reason to believe there will be.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 2, 2021 • 2:00:50pm

re: #20 ericblair

It’s all about getting back at those smarty-pants egghead doctors who think they know it all. That’s part and parcel of soaking in conspiracy theories 24/7; it’s all about having the secret knowledge that others don’t. Most of the clickbait ads I and everyone else gets are about some rando sticking a household implement or vegetable in some orifice and how DOCTORS are STUNNED or WHAT THEY DON’T WANT YOU TO KNOW.

The Republican Party is the direct descendant of the No Nothing Party.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 2, 2021 • 2:04:15pm

re: #88 Dopamine Fish

Okay, riddle me this: Republicans’ big push is that they want to do away with COVID protocols to boost the economy. What does forbidding COVID protocols in schools have to do with the economy? They are not a business; the only economic revenue they generate is from events they hold, and the money is usually reinvested directly back into the school.

School is governmental day care.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 2, 2021 • 2:04:15pm

re: #193 Hecuba’s daughter

I’ve always preferred modern adaptations of Shakespeare as long as the dialogue is strictly Shakespeare, but the setting, the attire, and the verbal intonations and actions are more contemporary. One of my favorite Hamlets (which I’ve seen at least 25 times — both live and on the screen) was performed at a small local theater, where Polonius was taping all his conversations with every character, and seemed more malevolent rather than a fool.

The one modern interpretation of a Shakespeare play — 12th Night — that I hated was at Goodman theater where there was a gender reversal: all female characters were played by men and all male characters were played by women. We left at intermission, though have to admit that the last scene before our departure was hysterical.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 2, 2021 • 2:05:29pm

“The dude doth protest too much, methinks.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 2, 2021 • 2:05:39pm

re: #35 jaunte

An emergency room doctor friend of mine was indeed stunned by what people had stuck up there.

I’ll bet the doctor doesn’t kink shame though. Maybe lessons on the shapes and sizes of objects which are safe to insert.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 2, 2021 • 2:13:53pm

re: #57 danarchy

It’s weird, it is all based on a preprint study that got passed around. I can’t for the life of me figure out why people accept a single study with shaky findings by a single group, but not what is now one of the most studied vaccines in history, that the scientific community almost universally says is safe and effective.

I think this is what got it started:
Nature

So it looks like the code that detects phone numbers is overzealous. Can’t figure out how to get it to accept the link, but if you google:
The mechanisms of action of Ivermectin against SARS-CoV-2: An evidence-based clinical review article

the nature link will pop up.

The link fails: It puts [no phone numbers allowed] in the link to Nature

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sagehen  Aug 2, 2021 • 2:26:57pm
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sagehen  Aug 2, 2021 • 2:29:07pm

re: #193 Hecuba’s daughter

I’ve always preferred modern adaptations of Shakespeare as long as the dialogue is strictly Shakespeare, but the setting, the attire, and the verbal intonations and actions are more contemporary. One of my favorite Hamlets (which I’ve seen at least 25 times — both live and on the screen) was performed at a small local theater, where Polonius was taping all his conversations with every character, and seemed more malevolent rather than a fool.

My favorite Hamlet is Sons of Anarchy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 2:30:19pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 2:33:21pm
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sagehen  Aug 2, 2021 • 2:33:37pm

re: #201 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The Republican Party is the direct descendant of the No Nothing Party.

(psst. Know-Nothing.

Because when they were asked about it, they were instructed to respond “I know nothing”)

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A Three Hour Tour  Aug 2, 2021 • 2:37:23pm

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

There are times that I wish that the Secret Service would pull a Trump and refuse to pay him what he demands, forcing him to sue them.

Then, I want them to deduct the cost of providing security to Trump plus a healthy markup for time and aggravation, so he ends up owing them more money than he’s charging them for room and board.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 2:45:09pm
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Dopamine Fish  Aug 2, 2021 • 2:47:59pm

Maricopa County, AZ, is DONE WITH YOUR SHIT:

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A Three Hour Tour  Aug 2, 2021 • 2:48:37pm

Oh, I have another option. The Secret Service pays Trump for room and board, BUT at the going room rates for housing the equivalent number of Secret Service agents at a Motel 6.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 2, 2021 • 2:49:06pm

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

I am not surprised but also still surprised that in the US in the 21st century we have a pandemic that a critically large fraction of our citizenry thinks is a no-thing.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 2, 2021 • 2:50:49pm

re: #88 Dopamine Fish

Okay, riddle me this: Republicans’ big push is that they want to do away with COVID protocols to boost the economy. What does forbidding COVID protocols in schools have to do with the economy? They are not a business; the only economic revenue they generate is from events they hold, and the money is usually reinvested directly back into the school.

They want to exercise power over you and your children. That’s all it is. “Opening up the economy” is a lie and they know it’s a lie and they are all liars.

As long as a dangerous disease stalks the land, the economy cannot recover.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 2:50:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 2:51:48pm

re: #218 Backwoods_Sleuth

shades of Broken Arrow…

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DesertDenizen  Aug 2, 2021 • 2:54:25pm

re: #214 Dopamine Fish

DAMN! And these were the jackasses that enabled Sheriff Arpiao for years. They’re no stranger to controversy, but they’re getting angry when they’re being questioned. Let the infighting begin. For those unfamiliar with Arizona’s population distribution, Maricopa County, which includes Phoenix, contains about half the state’s population. They wield a big hammer if they get irate.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 2:54:44pm
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Mattand  Aug 2, 2021 • 2:55:29pm

re: #213 Backwoods_Sleuth

The governor is holding his head in his hand, supposedly upset about all his constituents dying, but as a Republican, am I safe in assuming that he’s fighting mask mandates and other common sense solutions?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 2, 2021 • 2:55:39pm

Wait, I thought Trump lost his SS protection a couple of weeks ago.

Or am I thinking of something else?

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jaunte  Aug 2, 2021 • 2:56:15pm

re: #223 Eclectic Cyborg

His kids.

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 2, 2021 • 2:56:29pm

re: #223 Eclectic Cyborg

Wait, I thought Trump lost his SS protection a couple of weeks ago.

Or am I thinking of something else?

That is his spawn. He, himself, is entitled to Secret Service protection for the rest of his life, as a former President.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 2, 2021 • 2:56:37pm

Getting back to Tolkien on Prime:

Amazon’s ‘Lord of the Rings’ TV Series Reveals First Look and Premiere Date

[…]

It’s a longer wait than most expected. Amazon Studios chief Jennifer Salke previously told The Hollywood Reporter the “hope” was to have the show on the air in 2021, but that was before the coronavirus pandemic disrupted filmmaking.

[…] The above photo is from the show’s first episode, but the studio is not identifying the character or actor at this time (so let the speculation begin). […]

JA Bayona directed the first two episodes which may now be shown as one episode, as a stand-alone feature film. The image that was released today suggests, according to many fans on twitter, that this first episode/feature is part prologue of the First Age, in Valinor, where the gods lived and where some elves also lived.

The big thing is the budget of course. This is the most expensive TV show ever made.

I fear it may have too much money behind it. These sort of things can get out of hand quickly. I still remember Waterworld and the fiasco that it became.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 2, 2021 • 2:56:59pm

re: #222 Mattand

The governor is holding his head in his hand, supposedly upset about all his constituents dying, but as a Republican, am I safe in assuming that he’s fighting mask mandates and other common sense solutions?

He’s a Democrat.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 2, 2021 • 2:58:01pm

re: #223 Eclectic Cyborg

re: #224 jaunte

Yeah, his spawn lost their gov’t paid body guards.

But I assume Barron still gets protected, if he lives with his parents.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 2:58:18pm
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Dopamine Fish  Aug 2, 2021 • 2:58:33pm

re: #220 DesertDenizen

DAMN! And these were the jackasses that enabled Sheriff Arpiao for years. They’re no stranger to controversy, but they’re getting angry when they’re being questioned. Let the infighting begin. For those unfamiliar with Arizona’s population distribution, Maricopa County, which includes Phoenix, contains about half the state’s population. They wield a big hammer if they get irate.

I got the tweet via @AkivaMCohen, who said that this letter ranks alongside Arkell vs. Pressdam and the infamous Cleveland Browns “some asshole is signing your name to stupid letters” reply letter.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 2:58:41pm

re: #222 Mattand

The governor is holding his head in his hand, supposedly upset about all his constituents dying, but as a Republican, am I safe in assuming that he’s fighting mask mandates and other common sense solutions?

Pretty sure he’s a Democrat

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Mattand  Aug 2, 2021 • 2:59:08pm

re: #227 Hecuba’s daughter

He’s a Democrat.

Oops. Lessons about assumptions and what not.

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DesertDenizen  Aug 2, 2021 • 2:59:22pm

re: #230 Dopamine Fish

Being originally from Cleveland, the Browns letter holds a special place in my heart.

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retired cynic  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:01:40pm

re: #153 A Mom Anon

I feel lots better now, I have to go get tested for the bacteria again in a couple weeks, that determines what happens next. I can eat again, and actually swallow capsules again, but some things are off limits pretty much forever, like caffeine and NSAIDS. No alcohol either. I hope I can get back to taking vitamins again(I am anemic so I need to take iron), the doc will let me know after my test.

I’m anemic and was told to take iron. I picked an OTC version with Vit. C, a pill, and it belched back for about a week, and since then I haven’t noticed anything. Good luck!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:02:17pm

re: #109 calochortus

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:02:46pm

re: #233 DesertDenizen

Being originally from Cleveland, the Browns letter holds a special place in my heart.

One of the replies to the tweet said, “You just know that somewhere there’s a profanity-laced first draft of that.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:03:12pm
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DesertDenizen  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:04:06pm

re: #236 Dopamine Fish

That final version is still amazing. I’m impressed that attorneys let that through. They’re not dicking around.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:04:16pm

re: #113 calochortus

Testing for what?

Walletectomy.

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:06:06pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:10:57pm

re: #114 Backwoods_Sleuth

A lot of teachers’ union member teachers are saying this is being pushed by union reps and not the teachers.

There’s also this:

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Dangerman  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:12:08pm

re: #209 Backwoods_Sleuth

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this is never gonna stop

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nines09  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:18:11pm

It’s a good day.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:20:12pm

re: #200 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I really don’t have time to go into this, but I will note that before covid I saw at least 50 plays a year, and am familiar with what different productions can do, so there’s no need to talk down to me. A play is not a novel, nor is it a complete imagined world.

I mentioned sex because of the reference to LGBTQ, not because I’m worried about it. (Anyway, I will simply not watch the series if I don’t like it, it’s barely on my radar.)

Peter Jackson, among his many sins, took 30 years off of Frodo’s age and turned him into a weak fool. He turned Gimli into a comic foil, also Merry and Pippin. (Beautiful visuals, though.) That’s one kind of thing I’m talking about.

The movie version of Starship Troopers bears no resemblance to the novel. You can argue about whether the movie is good, bit you cannot argue that it is Heinlein. That’s another.

And all that is what I’m talking about when I talk about remaining faithful to Tolkien’s imagined world.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:23:07pm

re: #203 Hecuba’s daughter

The one modern interpretation of a Shakespeare play — 12th Night — that I hated was at Goodman theater where there was a gender reversal: all female characters were played by men and all male characters were played by women. We left at intermission, though have to admit that the last scene before our departure was hysterical.

I saw a similar production of Measure for Measure and loved it. Flipping the sexes showed the power plays in an entirely different light.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:28:12pm

re: #244 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

I did not intend to “talk down” to you.

What I have seen, all across the internet, creep into the discussion over this Amazon project is a lot of defensiveness by some of the Tolkien fandom.

My fundamental point is this: a TV series is a different type of art than literature. A cinema feature is also different than either of those two.

Tolkien did not publish a novel on the Second Age. There was an appendix in the LoTR published.

Then posthumously the estate, under his son, published a whole lot of material, most of which really were unfinished.

Amazon is thus crafting a series based on the ideas of Tolkien, but are not adapting a novel.

Tolkien’s own work was continually evolving. The important point here is that Amazon is free to introduce characters as they see fit. From what has been allowed to be made public, Amazon is not allowed to substantially change the characters that exist in the published works (thus Galadriel has to be Galadriel), but everything else is open to the Amazon writers.

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(((Archangel1)))  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:29:03pm
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danarchy  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:30:14pm

re: #222 Mattand

The governor is holding his head in his hand, supposedly upset about all his constituents dying, but as a Republican, am I safe in assuming that he’s fighting mask mandates and other common sense solutions?

Um Isn’t John Bell Edwards a democrat?

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Mattand  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:34:14pm

re: #248 danarchy

Um Isn’t John Bell Edwards a democrat?

LOL, already apologized a few comments back.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:34:34pm

Mary Trump was on The View and Ms Fussybritches left the set.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:34:40pm

I love my Roku streaming box, but I’ll be damned if the Roku app for HBO Max isn’t the most all-around terrible app provided by any major service. The FF/RW function sucks during playback, and because the UI is so laggy it regularly has a brain eclipse and crashes. Even the Amazon Prime Video app works better. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

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calochortus  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:35:26pm

re: #171 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

I haven’t seen that yet, where did you find it? (although masks are almost universally required here).

In case someone else hasn’t linked it before I get caught up in the thread: Mask mandate here

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Mattand  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:36:21pm

re: #250 Backwoods_Sleuth

Mary Trump was on The View and Ms Fussybritches left the set.

Is Meghan McCain related to someone famous? I caaaaaaan’t quite put my finger on it.

Maybe she’ll mention it ad nauseum at someone point.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:36:43pm

re: #252 calochortus

In case someone else hasn’t linked it before I get caught up in the thread: Mask mandate here

Thanks, it has since then been broadcast all over. And not a moment too soon.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:38:15pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:39:06pm
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Patricia Kayden  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:42:27pm

re: #30 jaunte

Trump should be subpoenaed first.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:42:34pm

re: #256 Backwoods_Sleuth

Please excuse me for asking this: Who is this Doocy ding-dong and why hasn’t he been banned from the WH press briefings?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:42:59pm

re: #256 Backwoods_Sleuth

President Obama is a superspreader….of Hope!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:43:09pm

re: #258 PhillyPretzel

Please excuse me for asking this: Who is this Doocy ding-dong and why hasn’t he been banned from the WH press briefings?

Fox News moron.

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:43:33pm

re: #258 PhillyPretzel

Please excuse me for asking this: Who is this Doocy ding-dong and why hasn’t he been banned from the WH press briefings?

He’s Faux News’s White House correspondent and an absolute tool. Jen Psaki has been using him as her personal punching bag since Biden took office, which has been AMAZING to watch.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:43:53pm

re: #260 Eclectic Cyborg

Ahh. That explains it. A Fox network ding-dong.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:43:54pm

re: #258 PhillyPretzel

Please excuse me for asking this: Who is this Doocy ding-dong and why hasn’t he been banned from the WH press briefings?

Another example of Fox nepotism

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:44:28pm
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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:46:10pm

re: #264 Backwoods_Sleuth

You’d think with all the money Tucker makes he could afford a decent haircut.

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Patricia Kayden  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:46:21pm

Another one bites the dust.

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Mattand  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:47:14pm

re: #258 PhillyPretzel

Please excuse me for asking this: Who is this Doocy ding-dong and why hasn’t he been banned from the WH press briefings?

re: #260 Eclectic Cyborg

Fox News moron.

He’s also the son of ventriloquist-dummy-coming-to-life-and-then-stopping-a-third-of-the-way-in Steve Doocy, one of the brain trust on Fox and Friends.

Stupidity is apparently hereditary.

He almost daily gets psmacked down by Psaki. I kinda think it’s his kink at this point.

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Mattand  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:48:31pm

re: #258 PhillyPretzel

Please excuse me for asking this: Who is this Doocy ding-dong and why hasn’t he been banned from the WH press briefings?

I’m also jealous of you that you had no idea who this dipshit is up until this point.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:49:25pm

re: #265 Eclectic Cyborg

You’d think with all the money Tucker makes he could afford a decent haircut.

That one’s been working for him since the 4th grade. Why should he change now?

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:49:46pm

re: #268 Mattand

I watch PBS and read The Washington Post online. I do not watch F&^ news.

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:50:57pm

re: #270 PhillyPretzel

I watch PBS and read The Washington Post online. I do not watch F&^ news.

Twitter has been regularly lighting up with Psaki’s Psmackdowns when he thinks he’s got a “gotcha” question and she calmly and professionally hands him his ass. Kinda surprised you hadn’t seen any of it here before; I know we’ve linked to more than a few of them.

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PhillyPretzel  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:52:32pm

re: #271 Dopamine Fish

I enjoy watching Jen P almost every day. I just did not realize that F&^ had one if its minions actually go to a WH press briefing.

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:54:11pm

re: #267 Mattand

He almost daily gets psmacked down by Psaki. I kinda think it’s his kink at this point.

I mean, I can’t really blame him, she’s a beautiful woman and everybody’s got their thing…

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 2, 2021 • 3:54:14pm

re: #265 Eclectic Cyborg

You’d think with all the money Tucker makes he could afford a decent haircut.

That’s not his real hair, that’s a peruke (peruke=bad toupee)

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No Malarkey!  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:00:43pm

My kids’ school district is only encouraging masks. I told them there will be an outbreak, and kids will get seriously ill.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:01:08pm

re: #243 nines09

It’s a good day.

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At one time BC (before covid), Napolitano seemed like a somewhat rational Fox attorney. But his attitude about Covid is the usual libertarian nonsense: shutdowns are an infringement on liberty, how could we become sheep in a nation founded by rugged individuals? Oh no!!! So he lost his job, not for dishonesty about a deadly pandemic, but for the traditional reason for so many powerful men: inability to treat women professionally, rather than subordinates who are there to be sexually harassed if they want to progress on their careers or even retain their job.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:01:22pm

re: #243 nines09

It’s a good day.

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From the article:

The lawsuit also alleged that Fox Business host Larry Kudlow repeatedly made racist and sexist comments.

You don’t say.

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DesertDenizen  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:02:30pm

re: #275 No Malarkey!

Governor Ducey has prohibited requiring masks in schools. A fine example of how sacred local control is in Arizona. A number of districts have already told him to fuck off.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:03:56pm

re: #276 Hecuba’s daughter

At one time BC (before covid), Napolitano seemed like a somewhat rational Fox attorney. But his attitude about Covid is the usual libertarian nonsense: shutdowns are an infringement on liberty, how could we become sheep in a nation founded by rugged individuals? Oh no!!! So he lost his job, not for dishonesty about a deadly pandemic, but for the traditional reason for so many powerful men: inability to treat women professionally, rather than subordinates who are there to be sexually harassed if they want to progress on their careers or even retain their job.

ETA: Ooops — he was harassing male subordinates!

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DesertDenizen  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:05:15pm

re: #279 Hecuba’s daughter

In Republican land being gay, or even appearing so, is a far worse offense than violating women.

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Florida Panhandler  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:05:42pm

re: #277 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

From the article:

You don’t say.

Racist and sexist commentary is a required asset to become employed at Fox News. Everyone knows this by now.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:06:54pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:07:35pm
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William Lewis  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:09:45pm

re: #193 Hecuba’s daughter

Richard III from 1995 with Ian McKellen as a fascist Richard in 1930’s England remains my favorite modern version.

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A Three Hour Tour  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:10:00pm

re: #259 Eclectic Cyborg

President Obama is a superspreader….of Hope!

And Change.

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DesertDenizen  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:11:05pm

re: #282 Backwoods_Sleuth

You want to “secure” the border? Make it easy for anyone who wants to work to come here. Readily grant asylum to anyone from one of the many, many countries we have destabilized over the last 50+ years. Decriminalize drugs and neuter the cartels. Try a humane policy and the border secures itself.

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A Three Hour Tour  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:11:59pm

re: #260 Eclectic Cyborg

Fox News moron.

And nepotism hire. He’s the son of Fox and Friends’ couch tumor Steve Doocy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:12:07pm
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(((Archangel1)))  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:12:36pm

re: #246 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Tolkien did not publish a novel on the Second Age. There was an appendix in the LoTR published.
.

While edited by his son as part of The Silmarillion, its fourth segment (The Akellabeth) about events in the Second Age was originally written by Tolkien in the 1930s as “The Fall of Numenor”.

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A Three Hour Tour  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:14:14pm

re: #265 Eclectic Cyborg

You’d think with all the money Tucker makes he could afford a decent haircut.

He could also use a neck tuck.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:14:15pm
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PhillyPretzel  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:15:48pm

re: #291 Backwoods_Sleuth

How to get a drink of water the hard way by Miss Tabby.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:16:43pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:16:52pm

re: #207 sagehen

Beau says in the video he thought the quote about “conservatives will abandon democracy, they won’t abandon conservatism” was cute, until he saw it in action with recent polling.

I am afraid he is unfamiliar with the foundation of the conservative movement, which explicitly opposed democracy from its inception (preferring aristocracy), and when aristocrats failed, subverting capitalism to subvert democracy.

Conservatism has always opposed democracy.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:18:27pm
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:18:34pm

re: #285 A Three Hour Tour

And Change.

Remember when he was young for about 15 minutes?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:20:00pm

The “Obama superspreader event” that Doocy is all shook up about is Obama’s 60th birthday party.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:20:35pm

I’m sure this is fine.

“North Texas” is generally short-hand for “The DFW Metroplex and Surrounding Areas”, for those unfamiliar. 6+ million residents in DFW alone.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:23:07pm

re: #211 sagehen

(psst. Know-Nothing.

Because when they were asked about it, they were instructed to respond “I know nothing”)

Damn spell check. /s

Un-American hyphens.—paraphrasing Woodrow Wilson

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:24:26pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:25:48pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:27:06pm

lookie who it is!

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Dopamine Fish  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:27:11pm

re: #289 (((Archangel1)))

While edited by his son as part of The Silmarillion, its fourth segment (The Akellabeth) about events in the Second Age was originally written by Tolkien in the 1930s as “The Fall of Numenor”.

There isn’t a lot to it, and the history of Númenor is very long; it lasted for 3200 years, according to Tolkien’s reckoning, with only a few key events having names and places associated to them. There’s a lot of room there to explore and invent within the framework of Númenor, and even introducing characters who are named in the Akallabêth would likely not be an issue, if they keep them true to what’s already written. (BIG IF.)

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cat-tikvah  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:28:13pm

re: #302 Backwoods_Sleuth

Michael Twitty? 😉

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A Three Hour Tour  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:28:15pm

re: #298 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I’m sure this is fine.

[Embedded content]

“North Texas” is generally short-hand for “The DFW Metroplex and Surrounding Areas”, for those unfamiliar. 6+ million residents in DFW alone.

For some reason, I remember the Metroplex as North Central Texas and North Texas as around Denton, but my memory is probably playing tricks on me.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:30:04pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:32:54pm
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piratedan  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:34:21pm

re: #288 Backwoods_Sleuth

i know that the wheels of justice are known to turn slowly, but would someone finally arrest this fucking Pedophile? Hasn’t he made enough treasonous and threatening public statements to yank his ass off his shine box?

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:35:08pm
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sagehen  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:36:05pm

re: #307 Backwoods_Sleuth

Israelis who can’t get a religious marriage in Israel… fly to Cypress for the weekend and get married there; Israel recognizes marriages performed in other countries.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:36:50pm
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PhillyPretzel  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:36:53pm

re: #310 sagehen

Elkton, MD.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:37:22pm

re: #298 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I’m sure this is fine.

“North Texas” is generally short-hand for “The DFW Metroplex and Surrounding Areas”, for those unfamiliar. 6+ million residents in DFW alone.

“Fuck you for voting Democratic, assholes.”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:37:25pm

re: #310 sagehen

Israelis who can’t get a religious marriage in Israel… fly to Cypress for the weekend and get married there; Israel recognizes marriages performed in other countries.

the article mentioned that you have to get married in another country

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Eventual Carrion  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:38:25pm

re: #297 Backwoods_Sleuth

The “Obama superspreader event” that Doocy is all shook up about is Obama’s 60th birthday party.

My dads Bday is the 5th. I’ll turn 60 on Sept 7th. Obama is just over a month older than me.

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DesertDenizen  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:39:24pm

re: #310 sagehen

But why should he have to leave the country to get married? Isn’t that like gay couples who got married in Europe or Canada hoping the US would recognize them? Doesn’t that make him a second class citizen in his own country?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:41:43pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:43:34pm

re: #221 Backwoods_Sleuth

Libertarians are all about the free market and private property rights being sacrosanct until the next-door neighbour wants to open a lead-smelting plant next door in his backyard.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:44:04pm

re: #316 DesertDenizen

But why should he have to leave the country to get married? Isn’t that like gay couples who got married in Europe or Canada hoping the US would recognize them? Doesn’t that make him a second class citizen in his own country?

Changing from within.

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:45:44pm

re: #316 DesertDenizen

But why should he have to leave the country to get married? Isn’t that like gay couples who got married in Europe or Canada hoping the US would recognize them? Doesn’t that make him a second class citizen in his own country?

There is no civil marriage in Israel, and he’s not considered a Jew, therefore he can’t get married. This is a sore point with secular Jews that goes right back to the beginning of the state, but orthodox rabbis keep it from happening (every government in Israel since forever has depended on a few extremely right-wing parties for its ability to form a government, so this continues).

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DesertDenizen  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:47:50pm

re: #318 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Speaking as an Urban Planner who oversees Zoning, I can 100% verify this statement.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:48:16pm

re: #316 DesertDenizen

But why should he have to leave the country to get married? Isn’t that like gay couples who got married in Europe or Canada hoping the US would recognize them? Doesn’t that make him a second class citizen in his own country?

It’s a real outrage. There is no civil marriage in Israel. People can only be married in a religious ceremony and Jewish ceremonies must comply with Orthodox rules. Marriages that are legal in another country are fully recognized in Israel, including same-sex marriages.

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DesertDenizen  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:49:04pm

re: #320 A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!

What do the non Jewish Israelis do? Can they do Christian or Muslim marriages? This is news to me and I am genuinely curious.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:50:06pm

Blazing fast Internet service today: Ping to LGF is only 90 milliseconds.

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sagehen  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:50:14pm

re: #316 DesertDenizen

But why should he have to leave the country to get married? Isn’t that like gay couples who got married in Europe or Canada hoping the US would recognize them? Doesn’t that make him a second class citizen in his own country?

Because Israel doesn’t have civil marriage.

There’s a chief rabbi, and whatever they call the top muslim and christian, and religious marriage has to meet what they declare to be the religion’s rules.

But people don’t have to “hope” Israel will recognize foreign marriages; it definitely does. Mixed-faith couples, gay couples, atheists, whatever.

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Dangerman  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:53:27pm

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DesertDenizen  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:54:29pm

re: #325 sagehen

It still seems to render a great many people as second class citizens. My first wife was Jewish but non practicing. Her parents insisted in a Rabbi, and being an atheist I didn’t really care. But we found a total of three rabbis in the LA area willing to marry us since I wasn’t Jewish. One was a total narcissist, one was a gimmick, but the third was a really good guy.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:58:13pm

re: #327 DesertDenizen

It still seems to render a great many people as second class citizens. My first wife was Jewish but non practicing. Her parents insisted in a Rabbi, and being an atheist I didn’t really care. But we found a total of three rabbis in the LA area willing to marry us since I wasn’t Jewish. One was a total narcissist, one was a gimmick, but the third was a really good guy.

In the past most rabbis, even those who were not orthodox, refused to marry interfaith couples. I still recall a situation several years ago where a Reconstructionist rabbi refused to marry a gay couple — not because they were gay, but because one of the women was not Jewish.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 2, 2021 • 4:59:04pm

re: #303 Dopamine Fish

There isn’t a lot to it, and the history of Númenor is very long; it lasted for 3200 years, according to Tolkien’s reckoning, with only a few key events having names and places associated to them. There’s a lot of room there to explore and invent within the framework of Númenor, and even introducing characters who are named in the Akallabêth would likely not be an issue, if they keep them true to what’s already written. (BIG IF.)

It was revealed (not long ago) that Amazon has rights to the Numenor and Second Age portion of the Silmarillion, and also the Unfinished Tales.

But your point still stands - most of what Tolkien wrote of the Second Age is just a timeline.

And two big plot points: 1) Sauron makes the One Ring after elves make a bunch of magic rings, and 2) Numenor falls into worshipping evil and is thus destroyed.

That latter is how Tolkien combined his own Christian fall-of-man belief with an Atlantean type of story.

The former makes for the McGuffin in his major published work (the three volume LOTR from 1954 and 1955.)

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DesertDenizen  Aug 2, 2021 • 5:00:29pm

re: #328 Hecuba’s daughter

That’s what we ran into back in 2006. I figured it wouldn’t be that hard, LA being LA, but I was wrong. My second marriage was performed by a friend with a UU clergy license, or whatever you call it.

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sagehen  Aug 2, 2021 • 5:00:58pm

re: #327 DesertDenizen

It still seems to render a great many people as second class citizens. My first wife was Jewish but non practicing. Her parents insisted in a Rabbi, and being an atheist I didn’t really care. But we found a total of three rabbis in the LA area willing to marry us since I wasn’t Jewish. One was a total narcissist, one was a gimmick, but the third was a really good guy.

One of my brothers married a convert, the other married nominal Christian who didn’t convert. Our rabbi was happy to officiate at both.

But he wasn’t just “a” rabbi, he was OUR rabbi. He officiated me and my sibs’ naming ceremonies, bar mitzvahs, our parents’ and grandparents’ funerals, no way would he refuse whatever ceremony any of us needed.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 2, 2021 • 5:03:09pm

Anyway, as I wrote the other night, entertainment is now such a big part of our economy that it occupies much discussion.

And Amazon being the worlds largest company (by revenue) has the $$$ to spend on entertainment franchises.

And with them buying MGM, they have even more control over certain intellectual property.

Someday, perhaps long after I am gone and our society degrades in something that is dystopian, we’ll no longer have entertainment playing such a large role in our economy.

But for now, the battles between Amazon and Disney (and Netflix and Comcast, etc.) to own the time and minds of people is front and center in our society.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 2, 2021 • 5:10:56pm

There’s so much wrong with this story. It’s like the “heartwarming” tales of GoFundMe to pay for healthcare.

news.yahoo.com

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The Pie Overlord!  Aug 2, 2021 • 5:13:04pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 2, 2021 • 5:17:27pm

This is seriously messed up.

(thread continues)

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nines09  Aug 2, 2021 • 5:17:48pm

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A Mom Anon  Aug 2, 2021 • 5:19:14pm

re: #333 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Thank you for saying that. It never occurs to very many of us that these feel good stories are due to serious flaws in our system and our attitudes towards the working poor, people with disabilities and homeless people. Our society is supposed to give a shit about this and insist we use our governmental resources to prevent these problems from being a common occurrence. Why is this waitress so special? There are millions like her, struggling to navigate an unfair and difficult system just to survive. We should help one another, we must, but we shouldn’t be relying on that as all that can be done.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of USPS, Goodyear, and Oreo  Aug 2, 2021 • 5:23:55pm

re: #155 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

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A hollow voice says NOW drain that swamp!  Aug 2, 2021 • 6:07:32pm

re: #323 DesertDenizen

What do the non Jewish Israelis do? Can they do Christian or Muslim marriages? This is news to me and I am genuinely curious.

They can have the religious marriages of their own faith, or fly to Cyprus, or they’re out of luck.

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Florida Panhandler  Aug 2, 2021 • 6:35:40pm

re: #288 Backwoods_Sleuth

Ahhh. The American Right Wing… where “freedom” at its zenith means the ability to diminish/imprison/exterminate the opposition at will.


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