New From Courtney Barnett: “If I Don’t Hear From You Tonight”

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Credits:
Director: Claire Marie Vogel
Producer: Annika Dawson
DP: Cody Smith
HMU: Leticia Llesmin
1st AC: Paolo Arriola
2nd AC: Dominik Czaczyk
Gaffer: Chris Oh
PA: Mallory Lemieux
PM: Sam Frickleton
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Editor: Mitch Goldberg
Colorist: Nate Seymour


Music and Lyrics by Courtney Barnett

If I Don’t Hear From You Tonight Lyrics:
Stars in the sky, are gonna die, eventually it’s fine.
Just like a lonely satellite, drifting for a little while.
If I don’t hear from you tonight, if I don’t hear from you tonight.

And it’s so quiet outside, with this curfew lullaby.
Is now an okay time to, tell you that I like you?
I wait for your reply, wait for your reply.
If I don’t hear from you tonight, if I don’t hear from you tonight.

And I swear i’ll never mention, this ever again.
But now that I got your attention, I don’t wanna bore the brains outta your head.

All my fears collided, when our mutual friend confided in me that
There’s a ninety-nine percent chance that it’s requited.
I read my bible left to right,
I fantasise I’m by your side.
I lay awake and wonder why,
I pray for rain and angels cry.
If I don’t hear from you tonight, if I don’t hear from you tonight.

Babe I need reminding, I got feelings too.
And I tried my best to hide them, but I don’t wanna hide anything from you.

Stars in the sky, are gonna die, eventually it’s fine.
Yknow that every morning I’m rising with you on my mind.
If loving you’s a crime, then gimme those front page headlines,
across the country and worldwide, singing I won’t give up this time.

If I don’t hear from you tonight,
I know you probably closed your eyes,
And everything will be alright,
If I don’t hear from you tonight,
If I don’t hear from you tonight,
If I don’t hear from you tonight,
If I don’t hear from you tonight.

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1
Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 13, 2021 • 9:35:14pm

It’s the 2nd Monday in November, which means it’s Enterprise Quarterly Release time. Thankfully, I pull the 6AM-3PM shift.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 13, 2021 • 9:37:29pm
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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 13, 2021 • 9:38:51pm

re: #1 Eric The Fruit Bat

It’s the 2nd Monday in November, which means it’s Enterprise Quarterly Release time. Thankfully, I pull the 6AM-3PM shift.

I’m retired. I ain’t got shit to do besides find fun.

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Targetpractice  Nov 13, 2021 • 10:13:25pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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You ever notice that it’s only when bad-faith assholes like O’Keefe pull like this shit that is when we get these “Who is the government to define ‘journalist’?!” arguments?

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teleskiguy  Nov 13, 2021 • 10:31:34pm

it’s been real

Instagram

Good day out on them slippery sticks. @sunlightmountainresort

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 13, 2021 • 10:33:00pm

The weather prediction for today was sunny, 72. I wanted to go for a long bike ride but at 2 PM it was still only 62 out, so I took a nap instead.

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William Lewis  Nov 13, 2021 • 10:37:50pm

re: #5 teleskiguy

Your photo? Beautiful whomever did it. Thank you for sharing it.

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2021 • 10:38:53pm

I think I might try to restart my attempt at physics, though I will do it on my own rather than go through a college. So I went looking for some recommendations. Here’s one really long list, from basic mechanics through quantum field theory and general relativity, susanjfowler.com. I can skip the calculus book, since I have practiced that twice with my oldest two kids. But I’ll have to squeeze it in with studying machine learning, Spanish, and raising a 16 year old, who is struggling with a subpar physics teacher.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 13, 2021 • 10:42:32pm

re: #5 teleskiguy

I’ll miss you around here. Wishing you an awesome winter of skiing.

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William Lewis  Nov 13, 2021 • 10:46:13pm

re: #8 Belafon

I think I might try to restart my attempt at physics, though I will do it on my own rather than go through a college. So I went looking for some recommendations. Here’s one really long list, from basic mechanics through quantum field theory and general relativity, susanjfowler.com. I can skip the calculus book, since I have practiced that twice with my oldest two kids. But I’ll have to squeeze it in with studying machine learning, Spanish, and raising a 16 year old, who is struggling with a subpar physics teacher.

(edit: I see it’s on the list you posted. Still I recommend it, without reservation. )

I’m presuming you’re already with The Feynman Lectures on Physics, boxed set: The New Millennium Edition ?

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Belafon  Nov 13, 2021 • 10:47:15pm

re: #10 William Lewis

I’m presuming you’re already with The Feynman Lectures on Physics, boxed set: The New Millennium Edition ?

Yep. I have a copy. And while they’re great reading, they’re best at complementing studying a book with problems to work through.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 13, 2021 • 10:52:34pm
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William Lewis  Nov 13, 2021 • 10:52:54pm

re: #11 Belafon

Yep. I have a copy. And while they’re great reading, they’re best a complementing studying a book with problems to work through.

Cool. I’m getting seriously into paleoanthropology myself. My GF gave me a copy of one of the best current text books on the topic - Processes in Human Evolution: The journey from early hominins to Neanderthals and modern humans

Biggest problem I have is that I can’t afford when papers come out in places like Nature. Their pricing sucks for amateurs though there are more and more open-source journals out there. And you have to read the current papers in this field more than some because it’s changing nearly daily.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Nov 13, 2021 • 11:01:46pm

re: #13 William Lewis

Cool. I’m getting seriously into paleoanthropology myself. My GF gave me a copy of one of the best current text books on the topic - Processes in Human Evolution: The journey from early hominins to Neanderthals and modern humans

Biggest problem I have is that I can’t afford when papers come out in places like Nature. Their pricing sucks for amateurs though there are more and more open-source journals out there. And you have to read the current papers in this field more than some because it’s changing nearly daily.

University libraries often have copies of the important journal, and offer some access to the general public (for a fee).

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Targetpractice  Nov 13, 2021 • 11:04:52pm

*sigh*

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William Lewis  Nov 13, 2021 • 11:08:25pm

re: #14 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

University libraries often have copies of the important journal, and offer some access to the general public (for a fee).

Yeah, unfortunately I currently live 1+ hours from the nearest real library (though the local public one tries with the limited funding they have). I am looking forward to getting a library card at the University of Memphis once I move there to be with my better half.

In another lifetime, I was spoiled rotten by both my parents working for the University in my hometown (mother was the acquisitions librarian, heaven for a reader ;) ) I would say I’m as well read as many college grads because I damn near lived in that library in Jr & Senior High School.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 13, 2021 • 11:10:17pm

Did something that turned out to be foolish and am now hoping someone here has a suggestion that will not require me to buy an external keyboard….which two stores have already advised me is my only option.

My computer is an ancient Lenovo laptop. My c key is “broken” and will not stay attached. Any suggestions?

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William Lewis  Nov 13, 2021 • 11:12:53pm

re: #15 Targetpractice

*sigh*

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William Lewis  Nov 13, 2021 • 11:14:55pm

re: #17 Hecuba’s daughter

Did something that turned out to be foolish and am now hoping someone here has a suggestion that will not require me to buy an external keyboard….which two stores have already advised me is my only option.

My computer is an ancient Lenovo laptop. My c key is “broken” and will not stay attached. Any suggestions?

Is there a nib sticking up that allows you to press the key and have it be recognised? If so, you should be able to find a blank keycap and replace it. If not, then the external keyboard will be your best solution. Is it old enough to be PS/2 or can you use USB?

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Targetpractice  Nov 13, 2021 • 11:20:57pm

re: #18 William Lewis

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 13, 2021 • 11:22:56pm

re: #19 William Lewis

Is there a nib sticking up that allows you to press the key and have it be recognised? If so, you should be able to find a blank keycap and replace it. If not, then the external keyboard will be your best solution. Is it old enough to be PS/2 or can you use USB?

Yes — there is a nib that allows the “key” to be recognized BUT the keycap doesn’t stay attached. I am able to type by manually pressing the nib.

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BigPapa  Nov 13, 2021 • 11:27:05pm

Cat exorcisms are real

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William Lewis  Nov 13, 2021 • 11:32:06pm

re: #21 Hecuba’s daughter

Yes — there is a nib that allows the “key” to be recognized BUT the keycap doesn’t stay attached. I am able to type by manually pressing the nib.

next question - is it not staying on because the C is damaged or is the bits that hold the key cap in place damaged? If the former, replace it with a key cap that you hardly use (scroll lock is a good one these days). If the latter, alas, it’s external time.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Nov 13, 2021 • 11:35:25pm

re: #21 Hecuba’s daughter

Yes — there is a nib that allows the “key” to be recognized BUT the keycap doesn’t stay attached. I am able to type by manually pressing the nib.

I messed with that for awhile. And eventually went with a separate USB keyboard.

You might also check to see if a replacement keyboard for the laptop can be found secondhand, or on the cheap.

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sagehen  Nov 13, 2021 • 11:40:47pm

re: #17 Hecuba’s daughter

Did something that turned out to be foolish and am now hoping someone here has a suggestion that will not require me to buy an external keyboard….which two stores have already advised me is my only option.

My computer is an ancient Lenovo laptop. My c key is “broken” and will not stay attached. Any suggestions?

Copy a “c” from some other document, and paste it into whatever word requires it (I once had a similar problem with my e and r keys)

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 13, 2021 • 11:42:21pm

re: #23 William Lewis

next question - is it not staying on because the C is damaged or is the bits that hold the key cap in place damaged? If the former, replace it with a key cap that you hardly use (scroll lock is a good one these days). If the latter, alas, it’s external time.

Sigh. It’s the bits that hold the key cap in place that appear to be damaged.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 13, 2021 • 11:50:30pm
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William Lewis  Nov 13, 2021 • 11:51:07pm

re: #26 Hecuba’s daughter

Sigh. It’s the bits that hold the key cap in place that appear to be damaged.

Hate to say it, but then an external is the best way to keep using this one. There are good and reasonably priced keyboards out there though so hopefully you can find something that feels good to your typing and isn’t badly priced. I have a laptop that my son used for a few years and trashed the built-in keyboard. So, I have a nice Sun Type 7 USB keyboard that I use with all my computers - Sun, PC, laptop :) I don’t have to get used to something else when changing machines here at home as a result.

One other option - check ebay for a parts laptop for that model. Perhaps you can swap out a keyboard from a doner machine?

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William Lewis  Nov 13, 2021 • 11:57:22pm

re: #27 Amory Blaine

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More into Miley Cyrus, Pink or even Britney :) but it’s a good show. Thank you for posting it.

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Targetpractice  Nov 13, 2021 • 11:57:31pm

Whenever I get the time and motivation to clean out my old office and get my desktop back in working order, I intend to go looking for one of those IBM Model M clones that have USB support. I have the desire to feel like I’m living in 1985 again.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:01:51am

re: #22 BigPapa

Kitties usually just stare at Ceiling-cat.

But when one of them wants to get into a fight with Ceiling-cat, then you know things are about to get rough.

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William Lewis  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:11:59am

re: #30 Targetpractice

Whenever I get the time and motivation to clean out my old office and get my desktop back in working order, I intend to go looking for one of those IBM Model M clones that have USB support. I have the desire to feel like I’m living in 1985 again.

Never really cared for the M keyboard. Noisy and hard to press. OTOH, I know lots of people who hate the VT100 and classic Sun keyboards that are what I prefer. So that’s what matters - find it, plug it in and enjoy it. I’ve been freaking happy typing on the Sun USB keyboard I bought recently.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:13:56am

StompTerra
2 days ago
Gotye looks like a professional tennis player that found a Casio keyboard in his parents basement.

Somebody That I Used To Know - Gotye - Live

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danarchy  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:19:35am

re: #17 Hecuba’s daughter

Did something that turned out to be foolish and am now hoping someone here has a suggestion that will not require me to buy an external keyboard….which two stores have already advised me is my only option.

My computer is an ancient Lenovo laptop. My c key is “broken” and will not stay attached. Any suggestions?

How ancient? It is usually pretty easy to swap out a keyboard on a lenovo. You can probably find one on eBay. Depending on the rarity of the model you may get fleeced for it, but if it was a common model you can probably get one cheap..

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Amory Blaine  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:20:51am
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Amory Blaine  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:24:03am

The future doesn’t need our permission.

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William Lewis  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:25:03am

re: #35 Amory Blaine

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OOOh, one of their underknown great songs.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:25:10am

Mind you, I am high on mushrooms.

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William Lewis  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:31:37am

re: #38 Amory Blaine

Mind you, I am high on mushrooms.

Doesn’t change the fact that she was insanely hot. Some great videos from them.

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William Lewis  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:33:39am
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Amory Blaine  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:35:40am
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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:36:02am
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Targetpractice  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:36:35am

re: #32 William Lewis

Never really cared for the M keyboard. Noisy and hard to press. OTOH, I know lots of people who hate the VT100 and classic Sun keyboards that are what I prefer. So that’s what matters - find it, plug it in and enjoy it. I’ve been freaking happy typing on the Sun USB keyboard I bought recently.

I’ll be honest, I haven’t used a Model M is ages, but I’m feeling nostalgic these days and have been watching too many computer restoration shows for my own good.

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William Lewis  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:37:16am
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William Lewis  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:40:37am
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Targetpractice  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:40:51am

I like to watch both car restoration and computer restoration shows, and I quickly realized that the latter are to geeks of my generation what the former were to our parents generations: Noisy, slow maintenance hogs that have little real use in the modern world besides as expensive toys. But we want them so badly because we’re blinded by nostalgia.

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William Lewis  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:47:41am

re: #46 Targetpractice

I like to watch both car restoration and computer restoration shows, and I quickly realized that the latter are to geeks of my generation what the former were to our parents generations: Noisy, slow maintenance hogs that have little real use in the modern world besides as expensive toys. But we want them so badly because we’re blinded by nostalgia.

Yep. That’s why I dearly love emulators. I can get 99.999% of the experience without the hassles of dragging, for example, a PDP-11/93 into my house, fixing it’s power supply (which is always trashed) and then paying the enormous number of watts that sucker swallows. But simh running through a good a good terminal emulator? With BSD 2.11 on the simulator? There is nothing different in any real way. I have a Sun 4 emulator running SunOS 4.1.4 that I can keep on a USB stick. 3 ~ 4 gigabytes of storage can salve every moment of nostalgia I have ;)

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William Lewis  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:48:56am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:49:47am

re: #48 William Lewis

Peak MTV music

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:50:57am

So I was not terribly impressed by Courtney Barnett until this song, she is really channeling the spirit of Lou Reed in her vocals and her songwriting.

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Amory Blaine  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:50:59am
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William Lewis  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:53:45am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:56:59am

re: #52 William Lewis

Steve Earle has done so many great tunes, this is the first one of his I remember hearing:

Steve Earle - Guitar Town

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William Lewis  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:58:08am

re: #53 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Steve Earle has done so many great tunes, this is the first one of his I remember hearing:

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Oh man, I haven’t heard that in, possibly literally, a decade. Thanks!

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Targetpractice  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:59:50am

re: #47 William Lewis

Yep. That’s why I dearly love emulators. I can get 99.999% of the experience without the hassles of dragging, for example, a PDP-11/93 into my house, fixing it’s power supply (which is always trashed) and then paying the enormous number of watts that sucker swallows. But simh running through a good a good terminal emulator? With BSD 2.11 on the simulator? There is nothing different in any real way. I have a Sun 4 emulator running SunOS 4.1.4 that I can keep on a USB stick. 3 ~ 4 gigabytes of storage can salve every moment of nostalgia I have ;)

Yeah, that’s the great thing about geek culture, there’s emulators cropping up for most every OS you can think of, and most are pretty good at playing the old games we knew and loved. The headache sometimes is tracking down the necessary files because the games either no longer exist on physical media or they do but rely upon outdated DRM/drivers.

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steve_davis  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:01:54am

re: #12 Dread Pirate Ron

And of course one problem for both fellas is that, no matter how bad things get this winter, they can’t mandate masks or vaccines because they’ve burned those bridges.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:03:42am

re: #56 steve_davis

And of course one problem for both fellas is that, no matter how bad things get this winter, they can’t mandate masks or vaccines because they’ve burned those bridges.

If enough people were vaccinated, things would not be as grim, but we are paying the price for taking education out of schools and replacing it with a combination of day care and limited vocational training.

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William Lewis  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:05:14am

re: #57 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

If enough people were vaccinated, things would not be as grim, but we are paying the price for taking education out of schools and replacing it with a combination of day care and limited vocational training.

And for them?

Belinda Carlisle - Heaven Is A Place On Earth (Official Video)

Heh…

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:05:44am

re: #58 William Lewis

And for them?

MTV nostalgia

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:07:01am

But I have to backpedal a bit reading about the lockdown in The Netherlands where vax rates are above 80%, but infection rates are surging, mostly among the remaining unvaccinated.

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William Lewis  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:09:24am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:30:26am

The right-wing culture war never ends.

(Omaha World-Herald, women’s volleyball reporting)

Nebraska leaders ‘disappointed’ by response toward Maryland players who knelt during national anthem (four hours ago)

LINCOLN — Moments before the Maryland-Nebraska match was set to begin Friday night, Rainelle Jones continued her usual practice of taking a knee during the playing of the national anthem.

However, for the first time, the crowd responded to the silent protest from the Terrapins’ senior middle blocker.

Several fans at the Devaney Center yelled at Jones and two of her teammates as they were kneeling before the anthem began. According to Landon Flux, who sang the national anthem, one person in the crowd shouted, “Stand up you piece of trash.” (Flux tweeted out his sympathy to Jones for the incident after the match.)

The moment adversely impacted several Huskers as they were moved to tears. After the match, the Nebraska players met Jones at the net to apologize for the pregame incident.

“For those that know, I kneel for a purpose, not to disrespect,” Jones tweeted after the match. “However, being disrespected by others is what I and many other people battle with daily.”

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I suppose that’s the famous “Nebraska nice” I keep hearing about.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:31:32am

re: #8 Belafon

I was admitted at Southern New Hampshire University to study mathematics, but I’m now thinking I’ll switch majors to electrical engineering instead.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:35:03am

re: #47 William Lewis

Some group of folks are building/running a Burroughs Large System emulator. Me, I cut my teeth on Burroughs Medium Systems (renegade BCD-addressing beast). someone actually created a Multics emulator, and University of Michigan open-sourced MTS (Michigan Terminal System), which should run nicely on Hercules.

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Targetpractice  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:36:28am

So in September, the boss came in one morning and declared that we had to scrub the place top to bottom because she’d heard a rumor that inspections were getting ready to happen and inspectors could be by “any day now.” We spent days cleaning and fixing everything, only for no inspectors to show for the entire months of Sept and Oct.

Then yesterday, she comes in on her day off to declare that not only do we know for sure that inspectors are coming, but they’re gonna be here on Monday and we have to do the whole routine again.

FFS

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William Lewis  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:39:25am

re: #64 Eric The Fruit Bat

Some group of folks are building/running a Burroughs Large System emulator. Me, I cut my teeth on Burroughs Medium Systems (renegade BCD-addressing beast). someone actually created a Multics emulator, and University of Michigan open-sourced MTS (Michigan Terminal System), which should run nicely on Hercules.

PDP & Sun for me but yeah, I get what you mean. Multics is an interesting disaster so I am so glad it’s getting emulated so that people can learn _all_ of its myriad of lessons :)

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William Lewis  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:42:09am
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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:49:29am

re: #66 William Lewis

Multics is an interesting disaster so I am so glad it’s getting emulated so that people can learn _all_ of its myriad of lessons :)

If it weren’t for Multics, there would be no Unix after AT&T pulled out from Project MAC.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:49:52am

re: #62 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The right-wing culture war never ends.

…and unfortunately, the ball is in their hands and they are really running with it, from abortion laws to school boards banning any form of school curriculum they find offensive.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:53:51am
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William Lewis  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:59:40am

re: #70 Eric The Fruit Bat

If it weren’t for Multics, there would be no Unix after AT&T pulled out from Project MAC.

Oh, as a Unix nerd I am very familiar with that messy weird history. One of my favorite emulators is of a Sun 3 running Research Unix Version 9.

Ultimately Unix exists because a couple of programmers enjoyed playing “space wars” on Multics and they found an unused PDP-7 (unused because it was perhaps the worst thing DEC ever made, but I digress… ;) ) to run their game on. That grew into an OS out of necessity. Then the port happened and it became what we think of now.

To me the finest moment remains BSD 4.x but Bell taught many really good lessons too.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 14, 2021 • 2:02:06am

Do you remember the days (until around 2010) when the teams did not even come out onto the field until after the national anthem?

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William Lewis  Nov 14, 2021 • 2:03:15am

re: #74 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Do you remember the days (until around 2010) when the teams did not even come out onto the field until after the national anthem?

DOD started offering big money to help with their propaganda.

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Targetpractice  Nov 14, 2021 • 2:04:22am

re: #74 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Do you remember the days (until around 2010) when the teams did not even come out onto the field until after the national anthem?

Apparently most MAGAts can’t, because they seem to believe it a time-honored tradition that’s been part of the sport since the very beginning. Just like they don’t know that playing the national anthem at sportsball games didn’t become routine until WWII as a gimmick meant to boost morale at home.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 14, 2021 • 2:06:55am

re: #75 William Lewis

DOD started offering big money to help with their propaganda.

perzackly

I think they saw the tradition of teams lining up at the Soccer World Cup games and playing each other’s national anthem and thought it would make a great patriotic spectacle (and encourage enlistment)

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ericblair  Nov 14, 2021 • 2:16:17am

re: #63 Eric The Fruit Bat

I was admitted at Southern New Hampshire University to study mathematics, but I’m now thinking I’ll switch majors to electrical engineering instead.

Welcome to the party, pal! I’ve seen people go both ways between EE and math. If you’re coming from math to EE, you have to remember that you don’t have to account for EVERYTHING in the problem; there’s a lot of second and third order effects you’re supposed to ignore (because they’re buggers to solve and don’t make any real difference to the solution). Also, for the vector calculus and various transforms you have to learn, the courses spend the time teaching you to calculate using them and much less time teaching the foundations of the math.

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William Lewis  Nov 14, 2021 • 2:24:59am

Ack, 4:30 on a night off? Good Night!!! ;)

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 14, 2021 • 2:36:48am

re: #73 William Lewis

I was working on Minix 1.5 for the Atari ST after Tanenbaum blessed Minix running on the Atari. I owned a Telebit T1000 so I could contact portal.com and all the newsgroups.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 14, 2021 • 3:08:40am

from new smax:

Grocery Security Guard Stabs Man Who Refused to Wear Mask

If you get beyond the headline, it becomes clear that the mask-less fellow became aggressive and violent and attacked the guard.

But the headline is designed to make it sound like there are armed Mau-Maus out there with machetes who will chop you in half if you dare not to exercise your Constitutional Choice not to wear a mask at all ever.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 14, 2021 • 5:03:13am

Last thread:

re: #117 Dopamine Fish

And us apostates, who will be summarily executed without a trial, I’m sure that won’t be disruptive at all.

That depends on how many people they choose to define as apostates (or heretics). If it’s only a few per week for spectacle, then it probably wouldn’t be too disruptive.

I’d bet about no Christian churches of any denomination would step in to help, partly because they wouldn’t care, and partly because they’d be afraid of being branded as apostates as well.

re: #119 Joe Bacon

Yeah and I know what will happen to me…

Me too. I’m not sure if they’d come after open Jews first, or open atheists first.

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No Malarkey!  Nov 14, 2021 • 5:08:08am

I have a question, if anyone knows. If members of the Japanese royal family aren’t supposed to marry “commoners,” who the Hell are they supposed to marry? Does Japan have other nobles like Dukes and Barons? I can’t imagine they would want them marrying European nobles. news.yahoo.com

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No Malarkey!  Nov 14, 2021 • 5:13:41am

Anti-vaxxer Oklahoma Governor Stitt sacked the pro-vaccine head of the Oklahoma National Guard and replaced him with an anti-vaxxer who rescinded the vaccine mandate for Oklahoma guardsmen. The Pentagon has stated it will respond “appropriately.” news.yahoo.com

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No Malarkey!  Nov 14, 2021 • 5:24:08am

Michael Flynn, who, according to this article, has been accused of Satan worship by QAnon, calls for imposing a “Christian” theocracy in America, banning all other religions. news.yahoo.com

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 14, 2021 • 5:24:51am

re: #83 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Last thread:

That depends on how many people they choose to define as apostates (or heretics). If it’s only a few per week for spectacle, then it probably wouldn’t be too disruptive.

I’d bet about no Christian churches of any denomination would step in to help, partly because they wouldn’t care, and partly because they’d be afraid of being branded as apostates as well.

Me too. I’m not sure if they’d come after open Jews first, or open atheists first.

Neither. They’ll be gunning for the LGBT+ Communities first with yours truly square in the sights.

And with that warm fuzzy thought, Yesterday was the start of TransAwarenessWeek.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 14, 2021 • 5:33:04am

re: #84 No Malarkey!

I have a question, if anyone knows. If members of the Japanese royal family aren’t supposed to marry “commoners,” who the Hell are they supposed to marry? Does Japan have other nobles like Dukes and Barons? I can’t imagine they would want them marrying European nobles. news.yahoo.com

Japan has what they call the Imperial Household Law (only men can ascend to the Chrysanthemum Throne). Men may marry anyone, but women must leave the Royal Family if they marry a commoner.

Other princesses have married commoners and left the royal family without any particular public notice; Mako is the first to draw a public outcry.

Former Emperor Akihito married a commoner. Current Emperor Naruhito is also married to a commoner.

Polling shows 85% of the Japanese populace favour allowing Empresses, as a way to shore up the Imperial line. Almost as many agree that an Empress should be able to pass on the throne to her heirs in her own right.

Currently, there are only three heirs to the throne. At the end of WW2, there were sixty-seven royal family members. Today that is seventeen. The government seems bent on allowing the oldest dynasty in the world to die out before allowing women to ascend to the throne. The Emperor or Royal Family cannot do anything about that, as the laws regarding ascension to the throne are set by the Diet, not the family.

The Japanese Royal Family costs the government about three times the money to support the Imperial Household as does the British Royal Family.

However, like the United Kingdom, the Royal Family is seen as an investment in that they draw tourism which helps drive the economy.

Imperial physicians describe the tension the former princess suffers as a form of PTSD, in that the extreme restrictions on her life caused trauma.

The world’s oldest monarchy is running out of royals (Japan Post, in English, October 26, 2021)

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jeffreyw  Nov 14, 2021 • 5:34:17am

Backyard Buck 2

Good morning!

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 14, 2021 • 5:34:46am

re: #84 No Malarkey!

I have a question, if anyone knows. If members of the Japanese royal family aren’t supposed to marry “commoners,” who the Hell are they supposed to marry? Does Japan have other nobles like Dukes and Barons? I can’t imagine they would want them marrying European nobles. news.yahoo.com

It’s really becoming a crisis of sorts. Imperial men can now marry commoners. Mako’s grandmother was the first and caused a big sensation in the 1950s. The current empress also came from a prominent businessman’s family. But, if memory serves, there’s only one male heir right now. And the women who have married into the family have suffered traumatic stress over the pressures society and media places on the family, not to mention the Imperial Household Agency. So, good luck getting anyone to marry the heir to the throne.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 14, 2021 • 5:42:37am

re: #90 Barefoot Grin

It’s really becoming a crisis of sorts. Imperial men can now marry commoners. Mako’s grandmother was the first and caused a big sensation in the 1950s. The current empress also came from a prominent businessman’s family. But, if memory serves, there’s only one male heir right now. And the women who have married into the family have suffered traumatic stress over the pressures society and media places on the family, not to mention the Imperial Household Agency. So, good luck getting anyone to marry the heir to the throne.

You can blame that on the USA.

Imperial Household Law (Wikipedia)

The law was adopted in 1947, replacing the previous law of 1889. The USA forced the law on Japan to bring the Imperial succession in line with the surrender treaty of WW2. The law was drafted by Douglas MacArthur.

The law had the effect of dramatically restricting membership in the Imperial Family to the Emperor Hirohito’s immediate family, his widowed mother, and the families of his three brothers. It abolished the collateral lines of the Imperial Family, the shinnōke and the ōke, which had traditionally been a pool of potential successors to the throne if the main imperial family failed to produce an heir. The fifty-one members of the eleven cadet branches renounced their Imperial status; and they were formally removed from the Imperial household register and became ordinary citizens on October 14, 1947.

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No Malarkey!  Nov 14, 2021 • 5:50:06am

re: #91 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You can blame that on the USA.

Imperial Household Law (Wikipedia)

The law was adopted in 1947, replacing the previous law of 1889. The USA forced the law on Japan to bring the Imperial succession in line with the surrender treaty of WW2. The law was drafted by Douglas MacArthur.

I guess they could start cloning the emperor, like in Foundation.

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Patricia Kayden  Nov 14, 2021 • 5:52:38am

This needs to be discussed on the Sunday talk shows ad naseum.

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No Malarkey!  Nov 14, 2021 • 5:55:57am

Two new books discuss Trump’s Covid response last year. In one book, a former Trump staffer is reported to have said “we killed Herman Cain.” In Chris Christie’s book, he says that Trump called him when they were both hospitalized with Covid to ask Christie if he was going to say that Trump gave him Covid, which I absolutely believe.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 14, 2021 • 5:56:00am

re: #87 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Neither. They’ll be gunning for the LGBT+ Communities first with yours truly square in the sights.

And with that warm fuzzy thought, Yesterday was the start of Trans Awareness Week.

Well, if the GOP makes a concerted effort to impose a theocracy on the nation, I’m out of here.

Canada allows political asylum for LGBT+ people but not for atheists, so off to Mexico for me.

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No Malarkey!  Nov 14, 2021 • 5:57:33am

re: #93 Patricia Kayden

This needs to be discussed on the Sunday talk shows ad naseum.

I’m sure that instead they will invite a bunch of Republicans on to discuss the hyperinflation devastating America as a result of Biden’s policies./

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 14, 2021 • 6:00:08am

re: #93 Patricia Kayden

This needs to be discussed on the Sunday talk shows ad naseum.

Maybe … there will actually be a few Democrats on today. Most will be Republicans (as always).

Questions will probably be about “why are you trying to destroy the economy” and “what about those $4/gal. gas prices” though.

MSNBC “The Sunday Show”: Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.) … Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) … Maya MacGuineas … Matthew Dowd … Dionne Warwick … Maya Wiley.

CBS “Face the Nation”: Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen … Colorado Gov. Jared Polis … World Bank Group President David Malpass … Neel Kashkari … Scott Gottlieb.

FOX “Fox News Sunday”: Surgeon General Vivek Murthy … Texas A.G. Ken Paxton. Panel: Doug Heye, Julie Pace and Mo Elleithee. Power Player: Virginia Lt. Gov.-elect Winsome Sears.

ABC “This Week”: National Economic Council Director Brian Deese … Sen. John Barrasso (R-Wyo.). Panel: Chris Christie, Donna Brazile, Jane Coaston and Heidi Heitkamp.

CNN “State of the Union”: National Economic Council Director Brian Deese … Rep. Fred Upton (R-Mich.) … Rep. Karen Bass (D-Calif.) … more of Jake Tapper’s interview with Rep. Anthony Gonzalez (R-Ohio).

Gray TV “Full Court Press”: Retired Army Gen. Stanley McChrystal.

CNN “Inside Politics”: Panel: Jackie Kucinich, Astead Herndon, Paul Kane, Tarini Parti and Paula Reid … Austan Goolsbee.

NBC “Meet the Press”: New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu … National Economic Council Director Brian Deese … Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.). Panel: Leigh Ann Caldwell, Matthew Continetti, Claire McCaskill and Eugene Scott.

Fox News “Sunday Morning Futures”: Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) … Kash Patel … Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) … Doug Collins.

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No Malarkey!  Nov 14, 2021 • 6:02:03am

re: #95 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Well, if the GOP makes a concerted effort to impose a theocracy on the nation, I’m out of here.

Canada allows political asylum for LGBT+ people but not for atheists, so off to Mexico for me.

I need to get to work on claiming UK citizenship.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 14, 2021 • 6:02:37am

re: #95 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Well, if the GOP makes a concerted effort to impose a theocracy on the nation, I’m out of here.

Canada allows political asylum for LGBT+ people but not for atheists, so off to Mexico for me.

I’m late to the show when it comes to a passport. That changes on Monday when I submit my paperwork. While it’s not the greatest photo of me. it beats the hell out of my DMV photo.

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No Malarkey!  Nov 14, 2021 • 6:07:15am

As America hurtles into fascism, book banning picks up momentum.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 14, 2021 • 6:11:27am

re: #82 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Love = Hard-On

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 14, 2021 • 6:15:40am

re: #96 No Malarkey!

I’m sure that instead they will invite a bunch of Republicans on to discuss the hyperinflation devastating America as a result of Biden’s policies./

“We can’t afford, milk, honey! Looks like we need to sell another one of our 13 children and we’ll have to trade down our True-Blooded American 11-mpg pickup truck for a puny little Import one that gets 14 mpg!!!”

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The Squire of Logos  Nov 14, 2021 • 6:19:32am

re: #102 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

“We can’t afford, milk, honey! Looks like we need to sell another one of our 13 children and we’ll have to trade down our True-Blooded American 11-mpg pickup truck for a puny little Import one that gets 14 mpg!!!

All the while voting for people who make our lives even more difficult and miserable.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 14, 2021 • 6:23:08am

re: #92 No Malarkey!

I guess they could start cloning the emperor, like in Foundation.

Or build a robot Emperor.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 14, 2021 • 6:27:12am

re: #100 No Malarkey!

As America hurtles into fascism, book banning picks up momentum.

Someone really needs to troll these boards to ban a book with lines from a book which praises genocide, slavery, incest, adultery, greed, more genocide, hatred and fear, &c.

That would be the Bible of course.

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lawhawk  Nov 14, 2021 • 6:34:06am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area on this fine sunny Sunday morning. We had storms come through NJ and NYC metro area yesterday, and scattered storm damage. Nothing in my neck of the woods, but we had some dramatic sky after the storms passed.

Take those moments and cherish them and seek positive vibes from them where possible. I know the last thread had some commentary about how to deal with all the political negativism and defeatism because things seem so bleak. I don’t have answers. I have coping strategy: family. Unplug. Online environments and information overload can make it all seem far worse than it truly is - and it is plenty bad.

But also get involved in your communities. Volunteer. Do good deeds.

Be excellent to each other /Bill & Ted

Post deep cuts of music.

I love this from my favorite band:

Genesis - Entangled - In Concert 1976

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 14, 2021 • 6:35:29am

re: #106 lawhawk

I have coping strategy: family.

Well, that’s out for me.

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No Malarkey!  Nov 14, 2021 • 6:40:41am

A staunch anti-vaxxer and his wife are dead from covid. His daughter, a prominent sports reporter, nearly died from Covid last year and has been a strong advocate for vaccination. She couldn’t break through the rightwing echo chamber her MAGA dad inhabited, unfortunately. How stupid do you have to be to watch your daughter nearly die and still refuse to listen? sorryantivaxxer.com

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Citizen K  Nov 14, 2021 • 6:45:21am

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Nov 14, 2021 • 6:52:54am

re: #89 jeffreyw

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Good morning!

Western good morning!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 14, 2021 • 6:56:56am

re: #108 No Malarkey!

A staunch anti-vaxxer and his wife are dead from covid. His daughter, a prominent sports reporter, nearly died from Covid last year and has been a strong advocate for vaccination. She couldn’t break through the rightwing echo chamber her MAGA dad inhabited, unfortunately. How stupid do you have to be to watch your daughter nearly die and still refuse to listen? sorryantivaxxer.com

It is the Power of Faith. Faith in the MAGA Message.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 14, 2021 • 7:02:49am

Motherfucking @Spectrum is blocking ports 123, 500 and 4500 that is bokring my @TMobile Cellspot v2.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 14, 2021 • 7:03:49am

re: #109 Citizen K

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Nov 14, 2021 • 7:04:31am

re: #109 Citizen K

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 14, 2021 • 7:06:35am

re: #110 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

Western good morning!

What is that thing? /s

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mmmirele  Nov 14, 2021 • 7:08:37am

I’m going protesting at Redemption Church Tempe. Here are my signs.

The pastor, Josh Butler, wrote an ignorant article about “four causes of deconstruction” and leaving their churches. Here’s the article, but seriously, you’ll lose brain cells.

thegospelcoalition.org

Be back in a while.

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Nov 14, 2021 • 7:10:33am

re: #115 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

What is that thing? /s

It’s a plant.

Identified as an alien specimen on the Avengers’ Campus in DSA (Disneyland south).

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Citizen K  Nov 14, 2021 • 7:15:38am

re: #114 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 14, 2021 • 7:22:14am

re: #112 Eric The Fruit Bat

I may have jumped the gun here - stand by…

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 14, 2021 • 7:24:27am
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Dangerman  Nov 14, 2021 • 7:26:34am

re: #107 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Well, that’s out for me.

Your family sits across from you at breakfast

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Punish Domestic Terrorists  Nov 14, 2021 • 7:27:36am

re: #118 Citizen K

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Nov 14, 2021 • 7:28:58am

re: #116 mmmirele

In the second sign, may I suggest you put a colon after his name?

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A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!  Nov 14, 2021 • 7:35:40am

re: #118 Citizen K

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Dangerman  Nov 14, 2021 • 7:37:49am

Because

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 14, 2021 • 7:38:28am

“Deconstructing faith”.

Had to read up on the concept.

Hell, that’s part of growing up.

I shed my catholic upbringing by the time I was 15 and never looked back.

Campus Crusaders for Christ really put me off any further interest.

In the mean time, I have met some Christians who impress me by quietly living their faith and not preaching or even advertising it. Not enough to convert me but enough to show me that there is (or can be) a positive side to the faith.

I still consider myself Christian in the broadest possible sense; in that I believe in do unto others, etc., and believe that (almost) anyone can be redeemed if they really strive to be. And in the notion that the truly great and enduring kingdoms are not man-made earthly ones, but those of nature and of the spirit.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 14, 2021 • 7:42:55am

re: #121 Dangerman

Your family sits across from you at breakfast

Thanks. My wife and my mother are the only people who will have me, but that’s enough for me.

On a humorous note, both of us forgot our anniversary this year (September 8). We’re planning a late one.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 14, 2021 • 7:44:56am

re: #127 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I just have my oldest daughter (19) at home right now. Hope to see the other three siblings at Christmas.

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Dangerman  Nov 14, 2021 • 7:45:19am

re: #127 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Thanks. My wife and my mother are the only people who will have me, but that’s enough for me.

On a humorous note, both of us forgot our anniversary this year (September 8). We’re planning a late one.

How can you not love a guy who has a scythe in his arsenal?

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 14, 2021 • 7:48:34am

re: #119 Eric The Fruit Bat

Yep - my Google mesh router wasn’t connected to the switch. D’OH!

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 14, 2021 • 7:49:40am
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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Nov 14, 2021 • 7:51:19am

re: #131 The Pie Overlord!

WTF?!?

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 14, 2021 • 7:52:07am
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BigPapa  Nov 14, 2021 • 7:52:12am

re: #130 Eric The Fruit Bat

Yep - my Google mesh router wasn’t connected to the switch. D’OH!

Yo packets done smack it
Yo frames are lame
Yo router

I’mma stop now.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 14, 2021 • 7:53:05am

re: #132 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

WTF?!?

The Richest Man In The World threatens to crash the Stock Market if he is forced to pay more any taxes.

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Dangerman  Nov 14, 2021 • 7:54:43am

re: #131 The Pie Overlord!

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if you leverage unrealized capital gains as loan collateral and use the loan proceeds to live on, those loan proceeds are taxed as ordinary income

it’s simple. it’s called sourcing the funds.

we did it in the 80’s when the personal interest deduction was phased out but ‘investment interest’ was still deductible

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A Cranky One  Nov 14, 2021 • 7:54:47am

re: #105 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Someone really needs to troll these boards to ban a book with lines from a book which praises genocide, slavery, incest, adultery, greed, more genocide, hatred and fear, &c.

That would be the Bible of course.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 14, 2021 • 7:57:05am
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Dangerman  Nov 14, 2021 • 7:59:12am

re: #130 Eric The Fruit Bat

Yep - my Google mesh router wasn’t connected to the switch. D’OH!

I read that as Gilgamesh router

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Belafon  Nov 14, 2021 • 8:01:35am
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ericblair  Nov 14, 2021 • 8:04:14am

re: #135 The Pie Overlord!

The Richest Man In The World threatens to crash the Stock Market if he is forced to pay more any taxes.

He seems to think we all give a shit if Tesla stock loses 5% or not. I don’t, and I encourage Musk to sell as much stock as possible so it’s easier for other Tesla shareholders to toss this toxic lunatic out on his ass and not destroy the company. Whenever the major shareholders find their collective gonads, that is, which might take a while.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 14, 2021 • 8:07:58am

re: #139 Dangerman

Gilgamesh router does have a nice ring to it…

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jaunte  Nov 14, 2021 • 8:08:33am

re: #141 ericblair

Once Ford and GM get the kinks out of their electric pickups, Tesla stock is going to drop more than 5% in the natural course of things.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Nov 14, 2021 • 8:09:55am

re: #143 jaunte

Once Ford and GM get the kinks out of their electric pickups, Tesla stock is going to drop more than 5% in the natural course of things.

Seems like Ford is going to eat Tesla’s lunch with their F150 Lightning.

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jaunte  Nov 14, 2021 • 8:10:51am

re: #144 Eric The Fruit Bat

I’d like one, but I think I’ll wait until they shake out the first (two?) year bugs.

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Belafon  Nov 14, 2021 • 8:11:00am
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Belafon  Nov 14, 2021 • 8:15:47am
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 14, 2021 • 8:17:33am

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calochortus  Nov 14, 2021 • 8:19:57am

re: #146 Belafon

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 14, 2021 • 8:22:39am

re: #146 Belafon

Dr Carrie Madej’s blog has this tagline:

Practicing The Truth in Jesus Through Medicine

I don’t recall any passage in the New Testament where Jesus used lying as a healing method.

Her latest blog post is entitled “Covid-19 Injections - A Gateway to Transhumanism”

Her “practice” is in McDonough, Georgia.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 14, 2021 • 8:27:30am

re: #108 No Malarkey!

A staunch anti-vaxxer and his wife are dead from covid. His daughter, a prominent sports reporter, nearly died from Covid last year and has been a strong advocate for vaccination. She couldn’t break through the rightwing echo chamber her MAGA dad inhabited, unfortunately. How stupid do you have to be to watch your daughter nearly die and still refuse to listen? sorryantivaxxer.com

The dead parents abandoned four children as orphans, two of whom are under eighteen.

I suspect the oldest child who survived Covid-19 before there was a vaccine and tried to convince her parents to get it is now going to have to raise her siblings herself whilst burying both her parents and settling the hospital bills.

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mmmirele  Nov 14, 2021 • 8:32:48am

re: #123 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

In the second sign, may I suggest you put a colon after his name?

I thought about it but decided to not do it, since the signs are designed to be read quickly, as people are slowing down from 35 to 45 mph to a speed conducive to turning into a parking lot. But I will keep it in mind for the future.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Nov 14, 2021 • 8:34:18am

I hear my bed calling me. People are starting to gather at the church across the street and would probably think something’s wrong if they could see my shadow in the window.

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darthstar  Nov 14, 2021 • 8:46:48am

Came to Livermore last night to see Mama Mia with friends as their son, my guitar instructor, was playing lead in the pit. Funny, all the instruments he has and he used his teaching guitar with big numbers on the fret board… it’s a strat.

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Teukka  Nov 14, 2021 • 8:50:52am

re: #146 Belafon

re: #147 Belafon

Another one debunking it: tiktok.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 14, 2021 • 8:56:34am

re: #151 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

And her degree (if she even has one) is from a fucking diploma mill I’m sure.

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A Mom Anon  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:00:24am

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sagehen  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:02:53am

re: #105 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Someone really needs to troll these boards to ban a book with lines from a book which praises genocide, slavery, incest, adultery, greed, more genocide, hatred and fear, &c.

That would be the Bible of course.

Also, Song of Solomon is pretty smutty.

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Rightwingconspirator  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:06:41am

re: #151 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Dr Carrie Madej’s blog has this tagline:

I don’t recall any passage in the New Testament where Jesus used lying as a healing method.

Her latest blog post is entitled “Covid-19 Injections - A Gateway to Transhumanism”

Her “practice” is in McDonough, Georgia.

Snake oil in the age of anti-science, anti-modern medicine. The thinking that goes into rejecting everything 99% of the professionals and experts say is all wrong and the correct answers come from (at best) folk medicine and the truly bizarre mythology of “liquid computers”. Wut? Liquid computers? Made up on the spot BS. That’s more believable than say the results in past months from vaccination?

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:08:03am

re: #152 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The dead parents abandoned three children as orphans, two of whom are under eighteen.

I suspect the oldest child who survived Covid-19 before there was a vaccine and tried to convince her parents to get it is now going to have to raise her siblings herself whilst burying both her parents and settling the hospital bills.

I have to confess that my anxiety level has been rising over the past few weeks and I attribute that to an unfortunate duo: the persistence of the pandemic and the change in weather. For those of us more cautious (perhaps excessively so?) and living in more northern climes, it’s no longer going to be possible to dine out with friends or really visit with them in person. Too many had hoped that vaccines would end this and we could return to normal but thanks to the anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers, we may be facing another winter of surges. It really hit home when a friend cancelled our weekly walk because, as she admits, she is a “wimp” about walking outside in the cold. It’s easier on her, with her husband there; the pandemic tends to be harder on those of us living alone.

Of course, there is another reason that so many seem in a foul mood these days: here we thought the November 3 election would bring at least a temporary halt to the widespread political dissension in our nation but instead it just inflamed the discord, with our entire country immersed in anger and hostility on steroids. We all want to go back to a time when our focus is on family and friends, without having to spend so much energy on anger and outrages.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:11:54am
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mmmirele  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:12:36am

re: #157 Eclectic Cyborg

And her degree (if she even has one) is from a fucking diploma mill I’m sure.

She is licensed as a physician in Georgia. She is a doctor of osteopathic medicine. I don’t know about Georgia but a significant number of doctors in Arizona are osteopaths, including my gastro doc. They’re not usually kooks. But as we learned over the past 20 months, there are a lot of kooks with MD, DO and PhD after their names.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:16:11am

This is the most political thing I’ve seen in the e-bike world so far.

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wrenchwench  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:17:50am

re: #163 mmmirele

She is licensed as a physician in Georgia. She is a doctor of osteopathic medicine. I don’t know about Georgia but a significant number of doctors in Arizona are osteopaths, including my gastro doc. They’re not usually kooks. But as we learned over the past 20 months, there are a lot of kooks with MD, DO and PhD after their names.

My niece just became a doctor in Germany. She told a doctor joke to my brother in Chicago, but it lost something in translation, I think. My brother said ‘orthopedist’ when it would have made much more sense with ‘osteopath’.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:19:13am

re: #158 A Mom Anon

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A Mom Anon  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:21:26am

re: #163 mmmirele

Yeah, we have a Naturopathic “doctor” with an office next to the grocery store I have shopped at since I moved here. All perfectly legal and above board. No vaccines available but you can buy holistic health supplements there. I don’t know how she’s stayed in business for almost 3 yrs, there’s never anyone in the waiting room or going in and out, you can see through the big windows out front.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:23:03am

re: #167 A Mom Anon

Possibly a front for another, less legitimate operation?

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jaunte  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:23:15am
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A Mom Anon  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:24:45am

re: #166 Hecuba’s daughter

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A Mom Anon  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:25:41am

re: #168 Eclectic Cyborg

Maybe, it’s just a weird place to have a doctors office in an area served by two huge hospital companies.

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wrenchwench  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:26:14am

re: #167 A Mom Anon

Yeah, we have a Naturopathic “doctor” with an office next to the grocery store I have shopped at since I moved here. All perfectly legal and above board. No vaccines available but you can buy holistic health supplements there. I don’t know how she’s stayed in business for almost 3 yrs, there’s never anyone in the waiting room or going in and out, you can see through the big windows out front.

AIUI (as I understand it) osteopaths have much more medical education than naturopaths.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:28:27am

re: #169 jaunte

Gotta love the branded balaclava.

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mmmirele  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:30:35am

re: #167 A Mom Anon

Yeah, we have a Naturopathic “doctor” with an office next to the grocery store I have shopped at since I moved here. All perfectly legal and above board. No vaccines available but you can buy holistic health supplements there. I don’t know how she’s stayed in business for almost 3 yrs, there’s never anyone in the waiting room or going in and out, you can see through the big windows out front.

It appears that in Arizona, naturopaths are the ones who are certifying medical marijuana patients. This can be quite lucrative. That said, you really do need a lot of paperwork to get a naturopath to sign off.

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jaunte  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:30:50am

re: #173 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s like a live Ben Garrison.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:33:00am

So. Teleskiguy ranted a bunch more on Twitter, and now apparently is wishing death on people at LGF. And Joe Bacon canceled his LGF subscription without a word and probably won’t be back.

This is really shitty behavior. I don’t know what’s driving it but I know he’s hurting people who don’t deserve it - including me.

I’m thinking about next steps.

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mmmirele  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:33:42am

re: #172 wrenchwench

AIUI (as I understand it) osteopaths have much more medical education than naturopaths.

In Arizona, the only difference between an osteopath and an MD is that osteopaths have a couple of additional courses they have to take. They have to get the same licensing as MDs. I’d also note that Arizona only had one MD school (University of Arizona) up until quite recently, but had two schools of osteopathy. That’s changed; I think there are a total of five medical schools in AZ now, or about to be (ASU and Mayo Clinic are opening medical schools).

Naturopaths are quite a different beast. There’s a school of naturopathy over in Tempe.

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Eventual Carrion  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:35:22am

re: #169 jaunte

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He gets around and so does that building behind him. Guess that huge antifa organization has only one spokesperson with an advertising face cover.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:35:44am

re: #176 Charles Johnson

I know Bacon had very strong opinions of what should happen to certain Republicans due to his son having been killed in Iraq. He and Ski got into it several times over this as I recall. Not long ago, Ski was bitching about an alleged double standard around here regarding comments wishing injury or death on public figures.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:40:17am

re: #176 Charles Johnson

So. Teleskiguy ranted a bunch more on Twitter, and now apparently is wishing death on people at LGF. And Joe Bacon canceled his LGF subscription without a word and probably won’t be back.

This is really shitty behavior. I don’t know what’s driving it but I know he’s hurting people who don’t deserve it - including me.

I’m thinking about next steps.

Teleskiguy was unbelievably harsh on Joe. His attacks all seemed to come out of nowhere. Maybe he is having a breakdown?

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wrenchwench  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:41:30am

re: #176 Charles Johnson

So. Teleskiguy ranted a bunch more on Twitter, and now apparently is wishing death on people at LGF. And Joe Bacon canceled his LGF subscription without a word and probably won’t be back.

This is really shitty behavior. I don’t know what’s driving it but I know he’s hurting people who don’t deserve it - including me.

I’m thinking about next steps.

Life is difficult. I want to write a comment in support of each individual, and that’s not possible.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:43:01am

re: #179 Eclectic Cyborg

He was basically demanding that I ban people he didn’t like. It doesn’t work like that. And now he’s smearing the whole site, very loudly and publicly, and doing the exact same thing he claimed to be upset about.

Yes, I am pissed off now.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:43:35am

re: #178 Eventual Carrion

He gets around and so does that building behind him. Guess that huge antifa organization has only one spokesperson with an advertising face cover.

Is there any reason to assume that just because someone is wearing a mask labelled “Antifa” that the person supports Antifa, instead of being a Proud Boy trying to instigate violence?

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A Three Hour Tour  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:44:11am

re: #176 Charles Johnson

So. Teleskiguy ranted a bunch more on Twitter, and now apparently is wishing death on people at LGF. And Joe Bacon canceled his LGF subscription without a word and probably won’t be back.

This is really shitty behavior. I don’t know what’s driving it but I know he’s hurting people who don’t deserve it - including me.

I’m thinking about next steps.

This morning, ‘Ski apparently realized that he had gone too far with the suggestion that Citizen K kill himself and offered an apology for it. He publicly admitted that he was in the wrong for that wish.

What you do as site owner in the interest of protecting the community is up to you, of course.

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jaunte  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:44:22am

re: #183 Hecuba’s daughter

“Hello, fellow kids!”

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Charles Johnson  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:46:28am

re: #184 A Three Hour Tour

This morning, ‘Ski apparently realized that he had gone too far with the suggestion that Citizen K kill himself and offered an apology for it. He publicly admitted that he was in the wrong for that wish.

What you do as site owner in the interest of protecting the community is up to you, of course.

That’s not the only way he went too far.

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darthstar  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:47:23am

The shit I have to put up with… and they used an old picture of me…

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:47:29am

re: #182 Charles Johnson

Yes, I am pissed off now.

And you have every right to be.

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sagehen  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:51:47am

re: #183 Hecuba’s daughter

Is there any reason to assume that just because someone is wearing a mask labelled “Antifa” that the person supports Antifa, instead of being a Proud Boy trying to instigate violence?

There’s reason to believe that anybody wearing a mask labelled “antifa” is, in fact, not antifa. They don’t do branded merch. The whole point of their generic outfits is that anybody can pick up the pieces anywhere; a ski mask from the sporting goods store, black shirts and sweatshirts and pants from anyplace that sells shirts and sweatshirts and pants, etc.

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The Squire of Logos  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:52:08am

re: #182 Charles Johnson

He was basically demanding that I ban people he didn’t like. It doesn’t work like that. And now he’s smearing the whole site, very loudly and publicly, and doing the exact same thing he claimed to be upset about.

Yes, I am pissed off now.

Ack. Yeah that’s a bridge too far.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:53:17am

re: #186 Charles Johnson

Charles, there are quite a few of us who really enjoy this site. I for one think it is a great place to hang out. And I am thankful for a place that I can go and my opinions are not considered completely weird. I am also thankful for being introduced to amazon.

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wrenchwench  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:57:18am
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 14, 2021 • 9:57:23am

re: #189 sagehen

There’s reason to believe that anybody wearing a mask labelled “antifa” is, in fact, not antifa. They don’t do branded merch. The whole point of their generic outfits is that anybody can pick up the pieces anywhere; a ski mask from the sporting goods store, black shirts and sweatshirts and pants from anyplace that sells shirts and sweatshirts and pants, etc.

Maybe someone from Project Veritas?

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Belafon  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:00:14am

re: #193 Hecuba’s daughter

Maybe someone from Project Veritas?

Boogaloo, Proud Boys, Oath Keepers. People from these groups have been arrested for destroying property or firing guns but pretending to be BLM supporters.

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A Cranky One  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:00:19am

re: #187 darthstar

The shit I have to put up with… and they used an old picture of me…

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Ferdinand  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:01:01am

Random comment from someone who only lurks 99% of the time, but i love you folks and hope teleski finds his mellow center.

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retired cynic  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:02:12am

re: #196 Ferdinand

Good to hear from you!

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BigPapa  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:04:20am

Not that I want to get into it but Ski’s Twitter has been suspended, did he have a new handle?

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The Squire of Logos  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:05:26am

re: #198 BigPapa

Not that I want to get into it but Ski’s Twitter has been suspended, did he have a new handle?

‘ballfootski’ is the new one. I think I spelled it correctly.

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wrenchwench  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:05:32am
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A Three Hour Tour  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:05:42am

re: #186 Charles Johnson

That’s not the only way he went too far.

Agreed, but I was only addressing one particular point, that of “wishing death on people at LGF,” to provide updated context on that particular issue, not to usurp or gainsay your decision-making process, nor to imply that you are wrong to take whatever steps you believe necessary to protect the community.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:06:07am

re: #198 BigPapa

Check out number #118.

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wrenchwench  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:06:40am

re: #198 BigPapa

Not that I want to get into it but Ski’s Twitter has been suspended, did he have a new handle?

He retweeted Paula Poundstone (#192)

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IngisKahn  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:14:50am

In all my years here, there have been a few commenters where I’ve downdinged just about every post (mostly before all the anti-choice and anti-science people left). I never once felt like flouncing or demanding that they not post here. It’s much healthier to have a discussion. If things get too crazy, just take a break, NBD.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:17:07am

re: #204 IngisKahn

Exactly. Sometimes one has to walk away from a situation and look at it from a distance.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:17:12am

re: #169 jaunte

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BigPapa  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:19:03am

re: #202 PhillyPretzel

OK I didn’t know that was him. No bueno.

He needs to take some time.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:21:17am

re: #205 PhillyPretzel

Exactly. Sometimes one has to walk away from a situation and look at it from a distance.

I have had to do this at another hobby-related site where I’ve been a member for years. It had to do with Rittenhouse. There was a discussion where a consensus was reached that he’s not guilty under Wisconsin law. I so want this not to be true—even though there were good arguments of why it’s likely—that I kind of lashed out and then had to apologize. It felt bad. I could easily go back, but I know I’ll likely get triggered on that specific topic again and so for the good of all have decided to take a break. And on that note, off to the office for some quiet Sunday PM work.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:21:38am

re: #207 BigPapa

Yeah his Teleskiguy account got suspended a while back. His handle is ballfootski now I think.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:21:44am

re: #202 PhillyPretzel

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:24:30am

re: #210 Colère Tueur de Lapin

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A Mom Anon  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:27:26am

re: #174 mmmirele

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:29:01am
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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:30:22am

re: #209 Eclectic Cyborg

Yeah his Teleskiguy account got suspended a while back. His handle is ballfootski now I think.

He realizes he has a problem..

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Mattand  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:30:34am

re: #176 Charles Johnson

So. Teleskiguy ranted a bunch more on Twitter, and now apparently is wishing death on people at LGF. And Joe Bacon canceled his LGF subscription without a word and probably won’t be back.

This is really shitty behavior. I don’t know what’s driving it but I know he’s hurting people who don’t deserve it - including me.

I’m thinking about next steps.

I was lurking last night when all this shit dropped. I basically sighed, noped out and moved on to more pressing business (finishing up The Last of Us 2; you know, God’s work.)

Sorry to see all of this happening. Both participants seem like decent people overall and like all social spaces, you’re going to butt heads with people from time-to-time. I’ve had a couple here myself. I’m hoping things can resolve without permanent flounces and/or bans.

For what’s is worth, this site has helped me keep my sanity and perspective on things over the last ten (!) or so years I’ve been chatting here. I appreciate you letting me hang around, particularly with what little I typically bring to the table.

Keep doing what you’re doing. It’s greatly appreciated.

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A Three Hour Tour  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:30:44am

re: #204 IngisKahn

In all my years here, there have been a few commenters where I’ve downdinged just about every post (mostly before all the anti-choice and anti-science people left). I never once felt like flouncing or demanding that they not post here. It’s much healthier to have a discussion. If things get too crazy, just take a break, NBD.

Additionally, I’m pretty sure that we all have experience with posters who just rub us the wrong way, whose quirky rhetorical tics make you want to pull out what’s left of your hair and scream into the void, and yet, you find yourself updinging their posts when you think they’ve made a damned good point or said something particularly funny.

And then there are others whom you generally like, but they frequently drive you crazy, but you realize that part of the behaviors that drive you mad are largely the results of significant traumatic experiences they experienced years, even decades, earlier and the scars they carry from those experiences, so you try extra-hard to be understanding and refrain from going for the jugular in an online argument.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:33:06am
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BigPapa  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:34:24am

I’ve been very online since 2000’s, mostly for professional forums. Some I stayed a few years and moved on. Some of us moved to other forums. I’m close to leaving Facebook but all my professional peers are there and forums for various tech groups. Basically, tech support goes this way:

1. Stuff not working, check manual/Read Me files
2. Check online tech support portal
3. Call tech support: while on hold, go to Facebook forums and find issue
4. If not found, still on hold, go to LGF and post memes

LFG is the longest tenured place for politics I’ve stayed. No plans to leave, even though sometimes I’m not here as much. It’s about as stable and safe a port from the storm as one can find. But it’s a big family and sometimes not all get along. I like both dudes, they clashed, one went pretty far and created more discord. I can empathize with where he’s at but at the same time ack the toxicity he created and empathize with his targets.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:36:37am

re: #216 Mattand

…..
For what’s is worth, this site has helped me keep my sanity and perspective on things over the last ten (!) or so years I’ve been chatting here. I appreciate you letting me hang around, particularly with what little I typically bring to the table.

Keep doing what you’re doing. It’s greatly appreciated.

I’ve been here only 5 years but, as with you, the site gives me perspective on issues and new takes that I’ve never considered. It’s been a good place to hang out!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:38:01am
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Charles Johnson  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:41:33am
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Rightwingconspirator  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:42:19am

On a happier note than last night or Sunday Pundits.

Where it started…

Before

Where it’s going

Finished top

How it got there

Love this tool

I love this tool! The wife has undertaken soe refinishing, most of this is her work. But to reshape the edges I needed a good planer. So we bought this Japanese one. Really is interesting because you use a mallett to adjust the blade. Requires a certain touch, come with practice.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:45:20am
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Charles Johnson  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:45:40am

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Decatur Deb  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:49:01am

So I go to the woods for a couple days, and the social fabric gets a snag.

In the woods:

We went to see leaves.

Leaves:

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A Cranky One  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:49:03am

For many, this site is an island of reason and sanctuary from the stupidity ravaging this country and the world. It’s helped many of us to maintain our sanity.

From that perspective, gloom and doom comments could be disturbing. But so would plugging our ears and yelling “nah, nah, I can’t hear you” in response to reality.

I can understand the frustration with this country’s issues (why aren’t the former guy and his cronies in jail, how can we return to normal if people don’t get vaxxed, etc) and the cynicism that results.

But you can’t hide from reality and I believe it’s helpful to have reality based discussions, even if it’s uncomfortable. Discussion can help motivate actions in response to the bullshit spewed by the right wing and their odious actions.

So while I can be cynical about the state of the world, I will remain engaged and work to make things better.

Or I could just go to sites with puppies and kittens being cute.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:50:15am

RATIO OF THE DAY

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:50:16am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:54:58am
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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:57:28am

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Rightwingconspirator  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:57:59am

re: #225 Charles Johnson

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A Mom Anon  Nov 14, 2021 • 10:58:29am

re: #225 Charles Johnson

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Charles Johnson  Nov 14, 2021 • 11:02:02am
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Dopamine Fish  Nov 14, 2021 • 11:04:24am

Man, I unplug for a night and log in to see this. What the fudge, people.

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PhillyPretzel  Nov 14, 2021 • 11:06:17am

re: #235 Dopamine Fish

All heck broke loose and it is not pretty. :(
I am upset about this too.

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A Cranky One  Nov 14, 2021 • 11:06:26am

re: #235 Dopamine Fish

Man, I unplug for a night and log in to see this. What the fudge, people.

What happened is simple.

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BigPapa  Nov 14, 2021 • 11:07:06am

Reading the Danchenko indictment. Don’t everybody jump.

WaPo posted an OpEd by Marc Theissen raling against the evils of CRT. Bad week for WaPo.

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BigPapa  Nov 14, 2021 • 11:07:53am

re: #235 Dopamine Fish

Man, I unplug for a night and log in to see this. What the fudge, people.

I’m glad you’re taking responsibility for the mess.

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mmmirele  Nov 14, 2021 • 11:10:40am

This is so infuriating.

(CNN)Isabella “Izzy” Tichenor, a 10-year-old Black and autistic student in Utah, died by suicide last Saturday after allegedly being bullied by classmates and her family’s complaints were ignored, the family’s lawyer tells CNN.

The tragedy comes just weeks after the Justice Department publicly detailed a disturbing pattern where Black and Asian American students at the Davis School District in Farmington, Utah, were harassed for years, and officials deliberately ignored complaints from parents and students. The DOJ detailed the pattern in a report and settlement agreement released in October. The agency had been investigating the school district since July 2019.

“Izzy was a happy child. She was a happy little girl, she did well in school … All she wanted was to be connected with family and friends,” attorney Tyler Ayres tells CNN ahead of the private funeral planned for Saturday morning.

Please note this girl killed herself mere days after the Davis School District and the Department of Justice came to a settlement over harassment in the district.

cnn.com

I hated school because I got bullied—it’s only as an older adult that I realize how much I got bullied. My heart is breaking that a little girl was being bullied so much she thought death would be better. I want to slug people but I know I can’t.

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Mattand  Nov 14, 2021 • 11:11:26am

re: #235 Dopamine Fish

Man, I unplug for a night and log in to see this. What the fudge, people.

Last night, I navigated here, thinking “Let’s see what the night shift is up to” literally as the fracas was just starting. I like both parties involved. Pretty upsetting overall.

I just hope everyone can involved can take a deep breath and right their respective ships before more drastic options are exercised.

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Mattand  Nov 14, 2021 • 11:12:32am

re: #227 A Cranky One

For many, this site is an island of reason and sanctuary from the stupidity ravaging this country and the world. It’s helped many of us to maintain our sanity.

Or I could just go to sites with puppies and kittens being cute.

Plot twist: the puppies and kittens are contributors to Newsmax and OAN.

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A Cranky One  Nov 14, 2021 • 11:14:19am

re: #242 Mattand

Plot twist: the puppies and kittens are contributors to Newsmax and OAN.

That would at least raise the average intelligence on those networks.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 14, 2021 • 11:16:19am
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Mattand  Nov 14, 2021 • 11:16:34am

re: #240 mmmirele

This is so infuriating.

Please note this girl killed herself mere days after the Davis School District and the Department of Justice came to a settlement over harassment in the district.

cnn.com

I hated school because I got bullied—it’s only as an older adult that I realize how much I got bullied. My heart is breaking that a little girl was being bullied so much she thought death would be better. I want to slug people but I know I can’t.

I got picked on occasionally in elementary school and high school. Nowhere near what other people have gone through, but enough to empathize with the victims. To this day, I still tense up when someone is getting bullied in a tv show or movie.

It’s also why I get angry with the whole “Just ignore them” or “Just get over it” advice people often dispense in these situations. Because 99.9% of the time, the people dealing out those bullshit platitudes either have never had to deal with bullying, or did it themselves at some point.

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Hecuba's daughter  Nov 14, 2021 • 11:17:06am

re: #229 Backwoods_Sleuth

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A red state governor who is a Democrat and not a terrible choice.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 14, 2021 • 11:17:10am

re: #235 Dopamine Fish

Man, I unplug for a night and log in to see this. What the fudge, people.

I am not a happy camper.

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EstebanTornado1963  Nov 14, 2021 • 11:17:14am
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A Cranky One  Nov 14, 2021 • 11:18:19am

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EstebanTornado1963  Nov 14, 2021 • 11:21:28am

Charles,
I just subscribed to show support for you and the site, I’ve been here a while and felt it needs to be done, especially now

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Charles Johnson  Nov 14, 2021 • 11:24:17am

re: #250 EstebanTornado1963

Charles,
I just subscribed to show support for you and the site, I’ve been here a while and felt it needs to be done, especially now

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Thank you! Much appreciated.

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BigPapa  Nov 14, 2021 • 11:26:31am

This place is not toxic. Personalities have conflict and sometimes they go too far and become toxic interactions. Our friend went there last night.

I’ve typed some things I regret and I’m thankfully still here. So I’m going to stress cook after doing some design work this morning.

I’ve been making lots of salads for the last year. Lately I’ve been using raw vegetables but will cook one or two a tad to give it complexity. I tried lightly roasting small Yukon Gold potatos just until soft and starchy, cooled, and sliced. Last night I threw some asparagus stalks under the broiler just until they made cooking sounds and smells, then right into the freezer to cool. That was tasty. And my pee smells amazing today!

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Charles Johnson  Nov 14, 2021 • 11:28:12am
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gocart mozart  Nov 14, 2021 • 11:30:21am

This is in my neck of the woods, the great forest of central Connecticut.

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nines09  Nov 14, 2021 • 11:34:37am
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A Cranky One  Nov 14, 2021 • 11:34:58am

re: #252 BigPapa


And my pee smells amazing today!

TMI.
Now I need a distraction. Hmmm.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 14, 2021 • 11:38:23am

re: #253 Charles Johnson

Louis XIV would like a word.

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jaunte  Nov 14, 2021 • 11:43:41am

re: #257 Decatur Deb

Quatorze, the Original Q.

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Rightwingconspirator  Nov 14, 2021 • 11:54:51am

re: #217 A Three Hour Tour

Exactly. IMHO I think Joe is a good guy beaten up by personal, immense, traumatic events. LGF gives (I hope for present tense) him a place to vent. I get the bigger picture with him, so I scroll the stuff I don’t like and that’s that. There are a couple of folks that changed over the years for the better too. I’m not sorry for avoiding an argument or not complaining back when apart from a downding as I enjoy their posts now. Just IMHO.

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jaunte  Nov 14, 2021 • 11:55:26am

Today I’ve been working on a present for one of my grandsons:

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jaunte  Nov 14, 2021 • 11:56:22am

More owl:

The eyes go in:

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sagehen  Nov 14, 2021 • 11:57:54am

Tonight on PBS:
(12:30 am)

Austin City Limits — Jackson Browne
followed by
Front and Center — John Hiatt and Tommy Emmanuel

Man Park - SNL

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Charles Johnson  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:00:31pm

re: #259 Rightwingconspirator

Well, he seems to have departed for good. Canceled his subscription.

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jaunte  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:02:44pm

Making stuff is a great stress reliever.

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Barefoot Grin  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:04:16pm

re: #262 sagehen

Tonight on PBS:
(12:30 am)

Austin City Limits — Jackson Browne
followed by
Front and Center — John Hiatt and Tommy Emmanuel

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Video

I didn’t know until last week that Tommy Immanuel is Australian. I had never heard him speak until a brief interview on the radio.

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Rightwingconspirator  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:04:21pm

re: #263 Charles Johnson

Damn it. Very sorry to hear that.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:04:21pm

re: #149 Hecuba’s daughter

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:06:24pm

We need a CTRL-K like in the old Usenet days.

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The Squire of Logos  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:09:35pm

re: #253 Charles Johnson

Yes, well, partially wrong. They are the latest in a long line of insufferable weenies.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:09:47pm

re: #176 Charles Johnson

That sucks bad. I love Joe and I’m sad to read that. It’s completely uncalled for. Joe deserved better.

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BigPapa  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:12:04pm

1969 is significant for two reasons. Reason 1 (James Early Jones was a handsome man and that voice was already there):

Secondly, it’s the year I wrecked mom”s vag. Sorry mom! She still loves me.

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Belafon  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:12:53pm
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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:14:21pm

I’ve been at LGF since 2003. There were times when I considered “flouncing” because there were some people on here I didn’t like. I CTRL-K’ed them in my mind.

When I get really stressed, I bake.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:17:42pm

re: #270 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

That sucks bad. I love Joe and I’m sad to read that. It’s completely uncalled for. Joe deserved better.

I agree.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:18:06pm

re: #273 The Pie Overlord!

I’m glad you didn’t.

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BigPapa  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:19:19pm

Remember the LGF Cookook? I think I had a recipe in there.

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:20:20pm

The last LGF Cookbook was in 2010 and most of the contributors (including the editor) are no longer here.

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retired cynic  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:20:52pm

re: #253 Charles Johnson

Have to disagree. My husband was a III. He didn’t do it, and he used it to differentiate between himself and his father, who went as Jr. It had just become part of him, without thinking about it.

On the other hand, my father was a Jr, with a pretty uncomfortable name. When my brother was born, and my father’s father started putting pressure on for a III, pop said ABsolutely NOT.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:25:03pm

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sagehen  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:29:29pm

re: #278 retired cynic

Have to disagree. My husband was a III. He didn’t do it, and he used it to differentiate between himself and his father, who went as Jr. It had just become part of him, without thinking about it.

On the other hand, my father was a Jr, with a pretty uncomfortable name. When my brother was born, and my father’s father started putting pressure on for a III, pop said ABsolutely NOT.

Ashkenazi Jews NEVER use a Jr or III. In fact, we never name a child after a living person.

The superstition is that someday, the Angel of Death will see this name on his day’s assignment list. If he’s in a mood that day, he might take IV instead of III, just to be a dick. Then he’ll have to swing back around for III, so now you’ve lost them both.

Also… unlikely, but someone has to win the lottery… if your child has the name of an already dead person, the Angel of Death might see that name on the list and say “oh, no, already got him, must be a mistake” and skips that pickup. It could take years before he realizes his error and comes back around.

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Charles Johnson  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:29:52pm

re: #278 retired cynic

Have to disagree. My husband was a III. He didn’t do it, and he used it to differentiate between himself and his father, who went as Jr. It had just become part of him, without thinking about it.

On the other hand, my father was a Jr, with a pretty uncomfortable name. When my brother was born, and my father’s father started putting pressure on for a III, pop said ABsolutely NOT.

Yeah, I didn’t mean to imply that kids were included in that - I know they don’t choose their own names. I’m talking more about people who use them when they don’t have to, for example: “George J. Terwilliger III”

We’re supposed to be impressed, I think.

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sagehen  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:33:06pm

re: #281 Charles Johnson

Yeah, I didn’t mean to imply that kids were included in that - I know they don’t choose their own names. I’m talking more about people who use them when they don’t have to, for example: “George J. Terwilliger III”

We’re supposed to be impressed, I think.

Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III.

QED.

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The Squire of Logos  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:37:18pm

re: #282 sagehen

Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III.

QED.

Every time I see that name I think of this guy…

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:40:01pm
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A Mom Anon  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:40:04pm

To change the subject on purpose, anyone have any good cold/flu home remedies to share? We’ve got NyQuil, Pepto and all that sort of stuff, but hubby is nauseous and can’t eat, plus having a torn up tummy. I made a pot of chicken and rice soup two days ago,but it’s gone, looks like I have to make another one. The BRAT diet is helpful, is there anything else that works?

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The Squire of Logos  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:41:45pm

re: #285 A Mom Anon

To change the subject on purpose, anyone have any good cold/flu home remedies to share? We’ve got NyQuil, Pepto and all that sort of stuff, but hubby is nauseous and can’t eat, plus having a torn up tummy. I made a pot of chicken and rice soup two days ago,but it’s gone, looks like I have to make another one. The BRAT diet is helpful, is there anything else that works?

BRAT is good but add some Jello. Sugar free if so needed.

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Decatur Deb  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:42:34pm

re: #282 sagehen

Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III.

QED.

Mah esteemed ex-senator. He was the stupider of the two, and now we have Tommy Tuberville for our sins.

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A Cranky One  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:46:44pm

re: #285 A Mom Anon

I’ve heard that for stomach fly you should swallow a spider, then a bird followed by a cat.

What? Stomach flu?

Never mind.

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Ferdinand  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:47:21pm

re: #197 retired cynic

Good to hear from you!

Thank you! I’m too much of a social media taker and parasite and really do intend to comment more someday. LGF has been on my daily reading list for almost 20 years. Hell I was here when Charles ended poor Dan Rather’s career … ;)

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:48:06pm

re: #289 Ferdinand

Thank you! I’m too much of a social media taker and parasite and really do intend to comment more someday. LGF has been on my daily reading list for almost 20 years. Hell I was here when Charles ended poor Dan Rather’s career … ;)

Ah, good times.

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steve_davis  Nov 14, 2021 • 12:58:42pm

re: #146 Belafon

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it’s true. i saw this shit in No Time to Die. Those Nanobots are with you for life, man!

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A Cranky One  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:00:33pm

Sometimes having a fluffy dog snuggle you helps.

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steve_davis  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:00:57pm

re: #153 mmmirele

I thought about it but decided to not do it, since the signs are designed to be read quickly, as people are slowing down from 35 to 45 mph to a speed conducive to turning into a parking lot. But I will keep it in mind for the future.

technically, the colon should be closer to the last name than the first.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:02:13pm
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BlueSpotinAL  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:03:39pm

Organized a conference for 1422 people last week. First social event Nov 10.

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steve_davis  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:06:37pm

re: #167 A Mom Anon

Yeah, we have a Naturopathic “doctor” with an office next to the grocery store I have shopped at since I moved here. All perfectly legal and above board. No vaccines available but you can buy holistic health supplements there. I don’t know how she’s stayed in business for almost 3 yrs, there’s never anyone in the waiting room or going in and out, you can see through the big windows out front.

it’s a front for an accountant with really good gun skills.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:08:28pm
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steve_davis  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:11:30pm

re: #176 Charles Johnson

So. Teleskiguy ranted a bunch more on Twitter, and now apparently is wishing death on people at LGF. And Joe Bacon canceled his LGF subscription without a word and probably won’t be back.

This is really shitty behavior. I don’t know what’s driving it but I know he’s hurting people who don’t deserve it - including me.

I’m thinking about next steps.

I think Teleskiguy took it really hard when he got laid out by a number of people in a thread a while ago. I felt kind of bad because I don’t think he’d meant to get as far over his skis as he wound up doing. Sometimes people get wounded by stuff like that and just don’t really know how to recover. I’ve had a couple of moments on LGF where I got hammered for a comment and of course it can be a little hurtful because one typically isn’t aware that something crossed a line, and suddenly there’s a bunch of red on a comment. If one doesn’t have a lot of online experience in discussion forums, I could see how someone might not recover from a taste of that.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:11:32pm

re: #277 The Pie Overlord!

The last LGF Cookbook was in 2010 and most of the contributors (including the editor) are no longer here.

Still here in my new and improved persona. 11 years? Damn time fly’s.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:15:58pm
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A Cranky One  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:17:54pm

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The Pie Overlord!  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:22:13pm

re: #299 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Still here in my new and improved persona. 11 years? Damn time fly’s.

Time flies like an arrow
Fruit flies like a banana

I’ll be here all week! Tip your server!

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gocart mozart  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:22:23pm
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Dopamine Fish  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:25:31pm

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:26:49pm
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steve_davis  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:27:32pm

re: #245 Mattand

I got picked on occasionally in elementary school and high school. Nowhere near what other people have gone through, but enough to empathize with the victims. To this day, I still tense up when someone is getting bullied in a tv show or movie.

It’s also why I get angry with the whole “Just ignore them” or “Just get over it” advice people often dispense in these situations. Because 99.9% of the time, the people dealing out those bullshit platitudes either have never had to deal with bullying, or did it themselves at some point.

my problem in elementary school was parents who insisted “don’t fight back” because they had no goddamned experience getting bullied. I finally had to smack the crap out of the 300 lb. fourth grade gal who kept getting up in my shit, and after that, I got some peace. I never got my revenge on the two other kids who made my life hell in elementary school, but they both died really young, so I guess someone was evening the score for me.

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Dopamine Fish  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:29:21pm

re: #306 steve_davis

my problem in elementary school was parents who insisted “don’t fight back” because they had no goddamned experience getting bullied. I finally had to smack the crap out of the 300 lb. fourth grade gal who kept getting up in my shit, and after that, I got some peace. I never got my revenge on the two other kids who made my life hell in elementary school, but they both died really young, so I guess someone was evening the score for me.

My dad always told me, “Don’t ever start a fight, but you won’t get in trouble if you finish one.” However, I was lucky enough never to be physically picked on; my bullies were perfectly content to upset me with words and not injure me. I did get in a couple of “fights” - put in quotes because it was basically them swinging at me and me dodging until a teacher finally noticed and put a stop to it.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:30:11pm

re: #305 Dread Pirate Ron

Is that real? That is one magnificent animal.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n 😷 Trips  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:32:12pm

Tell me the Trump’s aren’t short on cash

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Dave In Austin  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:32:46pm

re: #308 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Is that real? That is one magnificent animal.

Your typical “Fluffy Yak”……

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steve_davis  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:33:19pm

re: #271 BigPapa

1969 is significant for two reasons. Reason 1 (James Early Jones was a handsome man and that voice was already there):

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Secondly, it’s the year I wrecked mom”s vag. Sorry mom! She still loves me.

It should be “double v” rather than “double u” but lots of people make that mistake.

////

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:33:23pm

re: #309 FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt’n 😷 Trips

Tell me the Trump’s aren’t short on cash

Not short enough. I want to see them living on the streets.

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Dread Pirate Ron  Nov 14, 2021 • 1:35:49pm

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