Some More News: The Devastating Impact of ‘Fear of Crime’ Politics

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Please note that this one has some deserved criticism of Joe Biden’s record on crime policies, with some cringeworthy archival footage I had not seen before.

Hi! In today’s episode, we honor 4/20, the weed day, by discussing the history of ‘fear of crime’ politics and its impact on our society. Probably negative impact, if I had to guess!

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Chapters
0:00 - Introduction
01:00 - The Giant Crime Wave That Doesn’t Actually Exist
11:31 - What Is Crime?
18:00 - Why The Crimerate Has Actually Fallen
25:30 - The Impact Of The Fear of Crime Or Joe Biden and his Fear of Crime Legacy
41:30 - The War On The War On Drugs
50:20 - Our Crime Policies Are Designed To Divide Us By Race
1:06:30 - Corporations Want to Keep The Status Quo

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403 comments
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2022 • 3:47:03pm

repost from downstairs

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 20, 2022 • 3:49:30pm

re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth

Some idiot who lost their way?

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2022 • 3:49:58pm

re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth

repost from downstairs

U S Army Parachute Team 264

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Egregious Philbin  Apr 20, 2022 • 3:50:33pm

re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth

Flight radar24 says USArmy parachuter plane.

It has landed at Andrews AFB.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2022 • 3:51:25pm

re: #4 Egregious Philbin

Flight radar24 says USArmy parachuter plane.

Its headed away now.

Capitol Police are not happy

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No Malarkey!  Apr 20, 2022 • 3:51:55pm

Omarosa won a $1.3 million award for her legal defenses for Trump’s attempt to enforce an unenforceable NDA.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2022 • 3:53:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2022 • 3:59:41pm
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nines09  Apr 20, 2022 • 4:00:05pm

Have a good evening all. Turn it up. Got that feel. I feel it.
Beautiful song.

Youtube Video

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Decatur Deb  Apr 20, 2022 • 4:12:21pm

re: #3 Backwoods_Sleuth

U S Army Parachute Team 264

One of my old bosses used to be their pilot, but 25 years ago.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 20, 2022 • 4:12:34pm

re: #119 Hecuba’s daughter

But his prophets on cable news raged against the vaccine as did many of the Messiah’s apostles. The Messiah was misled— and that is the message they are going with.

Plus Trump only tepidly supported the vaccine at a rally, was booed by the crowd, and never mentioned it again. He prevaricated on whether he would get a booster.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 20, 2022 • 4:14:20pm

re: #11 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Plus Trump only tepidly supported the vaccine at a rally, was booed by the crowd, and never mentioned it again. He prevaricated on whether he would get a booster.

Trump got boosted; he always takes care of himself.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 20, 2022 • 4:16:39pm

Piers Morgan, of all people, told Trump he lost, and that he’s responsible for January 6.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 20, 2022 • 4:19:40pm

A cousin just shared on FB a story about a young woman who became very ill, was hospitalized, and almost died. Based on the picture it seemed it was going to be a Covid story — but no, it was about EVALI, a disease completely unfamiliar to me. Apparently vaping can do serious damage to your lungs; dozens have died from this illness. EVALI = “e-cigarette or vaping product-use associated lung injury”. I don’t know if the current formulation of these products has eliminated or reduced these dangerous side-effects.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 20, 2022 • 4:23:45pm

And who didn’t see this coming? Things may have just gotten even worse for ol’ Alex.
At least that’s the way I read it.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 20, 2022 • 4:24:41pm
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darthstar  Apr 20, 2022 • 4:28:01pm

Dana Milbank’s column in WaPo is pretty funny. Give it a read.

The books had names such as “Florida Reveal Math,” or “Florida’s B.E.S.T. Math,” or simply “Florida Math.” The titles essentially codified what Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis’s censorship program has accomplished: There is math — and then there is Florida math.

On one level, we already understood that “Florida math” is not the same thing as “math”:

Problem 1: In an election, the Republican candidate gets 232 electoral votes and the Democratic candidate gets 306. Who won?

Answer: It was rigged.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 20, 2022 • 4:28:46pm

re: #15 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

And who didn’t see this coming? Things may have just gotten even worse for ol’ Alex.
At least that’s the way I read it.

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Unless every hidden dollar is returned into his available assets, the trial will be a mockery. It will be justice only if he is reduced to absolute poverty.

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Captain Magic  Apr 20, 2022 • 4:29:43pm

re: #15 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

The chapter 11 that Jones filed tolls the lawsuit, while those who won lawsuits against him now become creditors in the bankruptcy.

Of course, IANAL….

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 20, 2022 • 4:36:43pm

Regarding the “defund the police” narrative, the Wingnut Party here in the Unicameral tried to pass a bill prohibiting “defunding the police.”

Aside from the huge waste of time in the Unicameral over a Republican’s priority bill (meaning it doesn’t go through the usual committee process here), several Democrats had to point out that “where’s this crime wave? Two-thirds of the cities and villages in Nebraska have no police or marshals at all.”

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 20, 2022 • 4:39:52pm

re: #13 No Malarkey!

Piers Morgan, of all people, told Trump he lost, and that he’s responsible for January 6.

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I can’t help but think that this was staged, that Piers told TFG in advance what he was about to do FOR TEH RATINGS!!!!!!!11!! and TFG agreed, but when the time came he just couldn’t handle the damage to his ego caused by Piers telling him to his face that he lost.

Also from the way he gets out of the chair he probably soiled himself.

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steve_davis  Apr 20, 2022 • 4:46:20pm

Putting a new liner down under the kitchen sink. Really interesting stuff parked in the corners of the cabinets that I can’t get to because when they put the appliances in on the last renovation, they didn’t bother to renovate the cabinets, and there is no longer space to access those doors. Found a 2 quart wall of beer jug from the mid 70’s. Sadly, no cryptocurrency.

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lawhawk  Apr 20, 2022 • 4:48:55pm

re: #21 The Pie Overlord!

I can’t help but think that this was staged, that Piers told TFG in advance what he was about to do FOR TEH RATINGS!!!!!!!11!! and TFG agreed, but when the time came he just couldn’t handle the damage to his ego caused by Piers telling him to his face that he lost.

Also from the way he gets out of the chair he probably soiled himself.

Staged or not, it’s ready made for anti-GOP ads from every Democrat on down the line. It’s ready-made for 2024. Heck, it’s ready made for 2022 and the Midterms and every GOPer who covered forTrump and voted to invalidate the election.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 20, 2022 • 4:50:36pm

re: #18 Hecuba’s daughter

Unless every hidden dollar is returned into his available assets, the trial will be a mockery. It will be justice only if he is reduced to absolute poverty.

I think some of that will depend on when those funds were “hidden”. If before the judgement, perhaps protected, in some dubious legal way. If after the judgement, well, that will be a whole different kettle of fish.

re: #19 Captain Magic

The chapter 11 that Jones filed tolls the lawsuit, while those who won lawsuits against him now become creditors in the bankruptcy.

Of course, IANAL….

Yep. And as “creditors”, they do have a right to “exam the books” if I am not mistaken. Not a very wise move on his part in my opinion.

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lawhawk  Apr 20, 2022 • 4:53:56pm

re: #24 Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire

Filing an adversary proceeding; they can sue to block the discharge of debt claiming that the sole purpose of the bankruptcy is to avoid payment of lawful restitution.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 20, 2022 • 4:54:58pm

re: #23 lawhawk

Staged or not, it’s ready made for anti-GOP ads from every Democrat on down the line. It’s ready-made for 2024. Heck, it’s ready made for 2022 and the Midterms and every GOPer who covered forTrump and voted to invalidate the election.

Until the program is broadcast, we don’t know how it will be perceived by the viewing public or how much demonstrates Piers successfully challenging Trump, or whether he ultimately and meekly accepts Trump’s bombastic replies. Ads are not known for providing a fair or honest glimpse of a program.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2022 • 4:55:44pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2022 • 4:57:10pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2022 • 4:58:40pm

well, ok, be like that…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2022 • 5:00:43pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Apr 20, 2022 • 5:02:26pm

re: #29 Backwoods_Sleuth

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well, ok, be like that…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2022 • 5:02:32pm

some discussion of this earlier:

:D

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2022 • 5:06:12pm
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Crush White Nationalism  Apr 20, 2022 • 5:06:29pm

re: #32 Backwoods_Sleuth

some discussion of this earlier:

:D

There are 3D printers designed to be as printable as possible.

3dprintingindustry.com

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Captain Ron  Apr 20, 2022 • 5:09:42pm
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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Apr 20, 2022 • 5:11:53pm

re: #25 lawhawk

Filing an adversary proceeding; they can sue to block the discharge of debt claiming that the sole purpose of the bankruptcy is to avoid payment of lawful restitution.

That’s the way I see it. They want time to investigate his finances and seize what ever he has. If he would have just waited until after the financial judgement, he would be avoiding some of this scrutiny. So, the Judge had to halt the trail until that is done. Not a very wise move in my opinion.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2022 • 5:13:30pm
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Belafon  Apr 20, 2022 • 5:14:36pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2022 • 5:14:53pm

*snerk*

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Apr 20, 2022 • 5:16:29pm

Not sure if still “better late than never” when Tomorrow’s Wordle is as mediocre as this.

Click to Reveal

Wordle 306 4/6

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🟩⬛🟨🟨🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

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HRH Stanley Sea  Apr 20, 2022 • 5:16:33pm

re: #33 gocart mozart

😲

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Patricia Kayden  Apr 20, 2022 • 5:18:03pm

re: #30 Backwoods_Sleuth

This may be a dumb question but is there a reason why the ACLU (or other civil liberties orgs) can’t sue? This looks like a First Amendment violation (government banning and censoring speech).

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2022 • 5:19:30pm

re: #43 Patricia Kayden

This may be a dumb question but is there a reason why the ACLU (or other civil liberties orgs) can’t sue? This looks like a First Amendment violation (government banning and censoring speech).

They have sued for this before. It’s just going to take a little bit.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 20, 2022 • 5:27:41pm

This was a great SMN episode. I lived through a lot of the WarOnDrugs madness he discusses and his takes match mine, pretty much. America has been in a cyclical time warp since the 1960s, doing the same bad shit over and over again.

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Captain Ron  Apr 20, 2022 • 5:30:46pm
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gocart mozart  Apr 20, 2022 • 5:33:46pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2022 • 5:33:57pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2022 • 5:34:16pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 20, 2022 • 5:34:25pm
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Charles Johnson  Apr 20, 2022 • 5:38:03pm
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Captain Magic  Apr 20, 2022 • 5:38:44pm

Listening to one-year wonder Edison Lignthouse

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 20, 2022 • 5:44:50pm

Is this botox or blood of virgins?

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Charles Johnson  Apr 20, 2022 • 5:46:04pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2022 • 5:47:22pm

oh

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 20, 2022 • 5:51:13pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 20, 2022 • 5:52:24pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2022 • 6:00:17pm

heh

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 20, 2022 • 6:02:36pm

THREAD==>

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2022 • 6:02:37pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

She sells this at her website:

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2022 • 6:04:21pm

re: #59 The Pie Overlord!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 20, 2022 • 6:04:24pm
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b.d  Apr 20, 2022 • 6:06:05pm

re: #57 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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You know what? Screw the Biden administration.

They were caught totally off guard on the mask ruling and now they still don’t know what the f*ck their position is?

Masks aren’t going back on, ain’t gonna happen —- nobody is going to go with that — it’s over——want to start some serious sh*t? re-implement it.

We deserve to lose if we don’t get our sh*t together. Not ready for anything but war….

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 20, 2022 • 6:06:54pm

wtaf

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 20, 2022 • 6:07:53pm

re: #61 Belafon

Labin is talking about Ben Shapiro and Chaya Raichik and what warped them into the creatures they have become.

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Captain Ron  Apr 20, 2022 • 6:11:31pm
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b.d  Apr 20, 2022 • 6:16:19pm

re: #63 b.d

Sorry but I am totally frustrated with the impotence of the Biden administration, we deserve to lose.

Biden gets an A++++++ for Ukraine.

Everything else an F. Telling people that their feelings and concerns are just wrong and that everything is better than great is messed up. What a mess, they have lost me.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 20, 2022 • 6:17:38pm

re: #67 b.d

Sorry but I am totally frustrated with the impotence of the Biden administration, we deserve to lose.

Biden gets an A++++++ for Ukraine.

Everything else an F. Telling people that their feelings and concerns are just wrong and that everything is better than great is messed up. What a mess, they have lost me.

Welcome your new forever Republican overlords.

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b.d  Apr 20, 2022 • 6:18:38pm

re: #67 b.d

Sorry again. I love this place because it is a place to speak freely and honestly.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 20, 2022 • 6:20:11pm

re: #63 b.d

You can still wear yours…

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 20, 2022 • 6:21:02pm

re: #69 b.d

Sorry again. I love this place because it is a place to speak freely and honestly.

No need to apologize. You’re not the only one frustrated. Believe me.

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Captain Ron  Apr 20, 2022 • 6:28:31pm
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b.d  Apr 20, 2022 • 6:29:54pm

re: #68 The Pie Overlord!

Welcome your new forever Republican overlords.

Well, what do we stand for? Legalized marijuana, low hanging fruit? NO! That vote in the House was just for fundraising.

Garland is impotent and worse than being a place holder.

Harris was put in charge of the border and she hasn’t indicated that she has a clue what is going on or what to do.

The administration was blindsided by lower court mask ruling and STILL doesn’t know what to do.

The Sec. of Treasury said months ago that inflation was passing deal MONTHS ago. POTUS Biden has not addressed the nation at all on this, it really is kinda important.

But hey, the Correspondent”s dinner is back on so normalcy is back!

Nobody is doing sh*t. If the democrats aren’t worthy of my vote then I won’t vote. Sorry. Enough.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 20, 2022 • 6:32:09pm

re: #67 b.d

Sorry but I am totally frustrated with the impotence of the Biden administration, we deserve to lose.

Biden gets an A++++++ for Ukraine.

Everything else an F. Telling people that their feelings and concerns are just wrong and that everything is better than great is messed up. What a mess, they have lost me.

You are definitely not the only one who’s feeling that way.

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Crush White Nationalism  Apr 20, 2022 • 6:32:09pm

re: #73 b.d

Well, what do we stand for? Legalized marijuana, low hanging fruit? NO! That vote in the House was just for fundraising.

Garland is impotent and worse than being a place holder.

Harris was put in charge of the border and she hasn’t indicated that she has a clue what is going on or what to do.

The administration was blindsided by lower court mask ruling and STILL doesn’t know what to do.

The Sec. of Treasury said months ago that inflation was passing deal MONTHS ago. POTUS Biden has not addressed the nation at all on this, it really is kinda important.

But hey, the Correspondent”s dinner is back on so normalcy is back!

Nobody is doing sh*t. If the democrats aren’t worthy of my vote then I won’t vote. Sorry. Enough.

Bottom line, you’re accepting fascism, and it seems like one reason is that an unqualified judge made a bad ruling that will be appealed.

I’m horrified.

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steve_davis  Apr 20, 2022 • 6:32:58pm

re: #9 nines09

Have a good evening all. Turn it up. Got that feel. I feel it.
Beautiful song.

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Video

I would have thought this was Mick Jagger doing his country voice.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Apr 20, 2022 • 6:33:14pm

re: #73 b.d

Well, what do we stand for? Legalized marijuana, low hanging fruit? NO! That vote in the House was just for fundraising.

Garland is impotent and worse than being a place holder.

Harris was put in charge of the border and she hasn’t indicated that she has a clue what is going on or what to do.

The administration was blindsided by lower court mask ruling and STILL doesn’t know what to do.

The Sec. of Treasury said months ago that inflation was passing deal MONTHS ago. POTUS Biden has not addressed the nation at all on this, it really is kinda important.

But hey, the Correspondent”s dinner is back on so normalcy is back!

Nobody is doing sh*t. If the democrats aren’t worthy of my vote then I won’t vote. Sorry. Enough.

Thanks Jill (or is this Susan?)

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No Malarkey!  Apr 20, 2022 • 6:33:35pm

re: #49 Backwoods_Sleuth

Michael Flynn would’ve told the French not to arm the American rebels against Britain.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 20, 2022 • 6:34:37pm

But we still have to fight. You can’t give up and just let the bastards win. Sometimes things do change for the better. It’s not hopeless.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 20, 2022 • 6:35:05pm

re: #73 b.d

Nobody is doing sh*t. If the democrats aren’t worthy of my vote then I won’t vote. Sorry. Enough.

The GOP thanks you. Hope you enjoy Donald Trump, President for Life!

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Dopamine Fish  Apr 20, 2022 • 6:38:12pm

re: #79 Charles Johnson

But we still have to fight. You can’t give up and just let the bastards win. Sometimes things do change for the better. It’s not hopeless.

Here’s the problem: We have to sell Sophie’s Choice to people like our dear b.d. I don’t blame them for getting frustrated; there are days I’m pretty fed up with the administration and the Democrats, even though I know most of it is on the Republican obstructionists in the Senate. But we have to be able to convince people, convincingly, that if they don’t vote for the side they see as not doing anything, the side that is doing all the bad things WILL WIN. It’s a choice between worse and worst, for them, and asking them to make it is a tall order, but that’s what we’ve got to do if we are going to have any choice of surviving the rest of the decade.

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Charles Johnson  Apr 20, 2022 • 6:40:12pm

First time I’ve seen @darth get pissed off.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 20, 2022 • 6:40:57pm

re: #73 b.d

Well, what do we stand for? Legalized marijuana, low hanging fruit? NO! That vote in the House was just for fundraising.

Garland is impotent and worse than being a place holder.

Harris was put in charge of the border and she hasn’t indicated that she has a clue what is going on or what to do.

The administration was blindsided by lower court mask ruling and STILL doesn’t know what to do.

The Sec. of Treasury said months ago that inflation was passing deal MONTHS ago. POTUS Biden has not addressed the nation at all on this, it really is kinda important.

But hey, the Correspondent”s dinner is back on so normalcy is back!

Nobody is doing sh*t. If the democrats aren’t worthy of my vote then I won’t vote. Sorry. Enough.

Sometimes you have to vote against bad shit happening. If you don’t mind a GQP Congress installing Trump as dictator in 2025, go ahead and don’t vote.

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b.d  Apr 20, 2022 • 6:46:06pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

You are definitely not the only one who’s feeling that way.

Thank you for acknowledging my concerns rather than questioning my motives.

We can’t become an unquestioning party like the other guys.

I have opinions. My opinions may not match everyone’s. My opinions shouldn’t match everyone’s. I am wrong a lot. No one is right all the time.

It sucks, we are right in our goals. Denying that there are real problems is not laying out a welcome mat to the GOP and me vocalizing them is not inviting them to power. C’mon people,

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No Malarkey!  Apr 20, 2022 • 6:47:21pm

Biden has gotten a lot of good shit done. He’s not perfect, but nobody is, and he has to work with a razor thin majority in the Senate, a lot of hostile state governments, and a radical reactionary Supreme Court. If we don’t fight for democracy, we will lose it, so suck it up, donate, knock on doors, make phone calls, and vote.

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rhuarc  Apr 20, 2022 • 6:54:12pm

re: #73 b.d

Well, what do we stand for? Legalized marijuana, low hanging fruit? NO! That vote in the House was just for fundraising.

Garland is impotent and worse than being a place holder.

Harris was put in charge of the border and she hasn’t indicated that she has a clue what is going on or what to do.

The administration was blindsided by lower court mask ruling and STILL doesn’t know what to do.

The Sec. of Treasury said months ago that inflation was passing deal MONTHS ago. POTUS Biden has not addressed the nation at all on this, it really is kinda important.

But hey, the Correspondent”s dinner is back on so normalcy is back!

Nobody is doing sh*t. If the democrats aren’t worthy of my vote then I won’t vote. Sorry. Enough.

Apparently Democrats are the only ones in government? Did I miss when that happened?

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No Malarkey!  Apr 20, 2022 • 6:54:25pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 20, 2022 • 6:57:20pm
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BeachDem  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:06:49pm

And of course:

“An audio recording obtained by NBC News appears to show that former President Donald Trump’s highly publicized interview with Piers Morgan did not end with Trump storming off the set, as edited promotional video clips suggest,” the network reported. “Instead, according to the recording, which was provided by Trump’s spokesman, the two men thanked each other and laughed at the conclusion of the interview for Talk TV, a subsidiary of Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp.”

The walkout was first reported by the NY Post. The tabloid is also owned by Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp.

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gwangung  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:11:07pm

re: #84 b.d

Thank you for acknowledging my concerns rather than questioning my motives.

We can’t become an unquestioning party like the other guys.

I have opinions. My opinions may not match everyone’s. My opinions shouldn’t match everyone’s. I am wrong a lot. No one is right all the time.

It sucks, we are right in our goals. Denying that there are real problems is not laying out a welcome mat to the GOP and me vocalizing them is not inviting them to power. C’mon people,

But what you’re saying is that you’re willing to let the assholes out stubborn us.

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darthstar  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:11:36pm

re: #56 DodgerFan1988

He died in like December or January. He made a big stink about being anti-mask mandate and anti-vaccine, retired with a FULL FUCKING PENSION, and then died 101 days later after contracting Covid-19. Stupid fucking moron.

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wrenchwench  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:12:49pm

re: #14 Hecuba’s daughter

A cousin just shared on FB a story about a young woman who became very ill, was hospitalized, and almost died. Based on the picture it seemed it was going to be a Covid story — but no, it was about EVALI, a disease completely unfamiliar to me. Apparently vaping can do serious damage to your lungs; dozens have died from this illness. EVALI = “e-cigarette or vaping product-use associated lung injury”. I don’t know if the current formulation of these products has eliminated or reduced these dangerous side-effects.

I was hearing a lot about this pre-pandemic, and not a thing since Feb. 2020.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:13:09pm

re: #85 No Malarkey!

Biden has gotten a lot of good shit done. He’s not perfect, but nobody is, and he has to work with a razor thin majority in the Senate, a lot of hostile state governments, and a radical reactionary Supreme Court. If we don’t fight for democracy, we will lose it, so suck it up, donate, knock on doors, make phone calls, and vote.

I’m old; I was a teenager and young adult through the turmoil and assassination and deaths in the 1960’s and early 70’s. I was “Clean for Gene” in the 1968 election. Even though many of my friends refused to support Humphrey, I decided that in a choice between Nixon and Humphrey, it’s Humphrey who would get my vote, the first year I was eligible to vote. I did not trust Nixon back then and his successful Southern strategy that transformed the Republican party certainly confirmed my concern. He ran on a “secret” plan to end the war and managed to get the plurality needed to win, at which time he escalated the conflict.

I don’t consider Biden a lesser evil, but the impossible task with the 50-50 Senate when 2 of our 50 often are hitting for the other side makes it difficult to accomplish his goals. How many positions in all areas of the government remain unfilled because of the obstacles imposed by the party of treason? How many problems are due to the large number of judges that Trump appointed because too many voters hated Hillary and either voted for Jill or voted Trump or sat the election out? We almost lost it all after the 2020 election — my sister keeps saying “who would have thought Dan Quayle was the one to save democracy”. As discouraging as it seems, we have to keep fighting. Our system failed completely with the corrupt 1876 election and it took 90 years to recover from that damage; if we let this evil triumph again, there will be no coming back.

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retired cynic  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:16:05pm

re: #93 Hecuba’s daughter

GMTA

Me, too.

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calochortus  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:16:42pm

re: #94 retired cynic

Me three.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:17:09pm

re: #89 BeachDem

And of course:

“An audio recording obtained by NBC News appears to show that former President Donald Trump’s highly publicized interview with Piers Morgan did not end with Trump storming off the set, as edited promotional video clips suggest,” the network reported. “Instead, according to the recording, which was provided by Trump’s spokesman, the two men thanked each other and laughed at the conclusion of the interview for Talk TV, a subsidiary of Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp.”

The walkout was first reported by the NY Post. The tabloid is also owned by Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp.

So my earlier speculation appears correct. Piers likely lets Trump get away with his lies on every issue.

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b.d  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:17:32pm

Sorry to elicit so many negative reactions to my posts. I am seeing us headed off a cliff if we don’t get our stuff together and we’ll deserve it..

If this is not a place to voice concerns then I’ll find another outlet.

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IngisKahn  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:18:10pm

We have to remember that no matter how much we want to believe otherwise, no politician does things because that’s what they promised or believe is right. At least not any that get any kind of power. In nearly all forms of government, power is a game and we get to see very few of the pieces. Now, we can be disappointed and vocally demand action, but it’s no guarantee and it’s no real surprise when seemingly contrary actions are taken. It sucks, but this is the way power has been forever. We can either work with it or be run over by it. Fixing the system can only be done very slowly and only if the proverbial lesser evil consistently wins.

Wake me up when we have a proper sortition government. 🤡

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Captain Ron  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:18:54pm
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retired cynic  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:19:21pm

re: #97 b.d

We all feel concerns. What sensible person would not? Hang with us, and let us all hash things out together.

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wrenchwench  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:20:30pm

re: #97 b.d

Sorry to elicit so many negative reactions to my posts. I am seeing us headed off a cliff if we don’t get our stuff together and we’ll deserve it..

If this is not a place to voice concerns then I’ll find another outlet.

I think this is the place. I don’t want to go anywhere else, and I want to see it, them.

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Dopamine Fish  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:22:14pm

re: #101 wrenchwench

I think this is the place. I don’t want to go anywhere else, and I want to see it, them.

I note that none of us are complaining about the concerns being voiced. We are just trying to address them as best we can.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:22:39pm

re: #97 b.d

Sorry to elicit so many negative reactions to my posts. I am seeing us headed off a cliff if we don’t get our stuff together and we’ll deserve it..

If this is not a place to voice concerns then I’ll find another outlet.

I thought we were just exchanging thoughts. Sometimes people disagree a lot with thoughts I’ve had (Franken) but I keep coming back.

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Crush White Nationalism  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:23:38pm

re: #97 b.d

Sorry to elicit so many negative reactions to my posts. I am seeing us headed off a cliff if we don’t get our stuff together and we’ll deserve it..

If this is not a place to voice concerns then I’ll find another outlet.

You said that you wanted to be part of driving us off a cliff, which is different than being concerned about other people doing that. You had to know that we wouldn’t just accept that. You just came in really hot is all.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:25:06pm
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darthstar  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:25:36pm
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rhuarc  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:26:22pm

re: #97 b.d

Sorry to elicit so many negative reactions to my posts. I am seeing us headed off a cliff if we don’t get our stuff together and we’ll deserve it..

If this is not a place to voice concerns then I’ll find another outlet.

Your ire should be directed at national news media. THEY are the fucking problem. Unless a Democrats generates a buzzworthy 10 second sound bite about Disney characters fucking or something clickbaity did it even happen? The Republicans have spent 40 years taking over our government piece by piece, inch by inch while simultaneously priming the news media to give them all the deference in the world that Democrats are never given.

Record low unemployment rate. Household cash vs. debt is at levels not seen in 40 years. All of these positive economic things that can be talked about, but that doesn’t generate anger which generates clicks and eyeballs on our media content. Let a Republican say the most ridiculous lie about the economy and they’ll get their spot in news media for a few days which allows that false information to become the narrative.

Democrats can do all of the stuff you want, but that doesn’t make the news. The ridiculousness of the Republicans in response does. That is what we should be fighting.

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wrenchwench  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:27:33pm

re: #102 Dopamine Fish

I note that none of us are complaining about the concerns being voiced. We are just trying to address them as best we can.

The only part I’m uncomfortable with is the use of ‘deserve’. I’m starting to think no human deserves reality. It’s too fucking hard.

If we can’t fix our shit, we don’t deserve worse shit because we failed. We need to try harder.

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mmmirele  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:28:23pm

I don’t believe this has been mentioned?

Rod Dreher has been spending most of the last year in Budapest and his wife decided to go ahead and file for divorce. And he has the hubris to equal the breakup of his marriage to Jesus being crucified. *rolls eyes* Dreher, for the record, is one of those moral scolds like David Brooks and Ross Douthat.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:30:40pm

re: #109 mmmirele

I don’t believe this has been mentioned?

Rod Dreher has been spending most of the last year in Budapest and his wife decided to go ahead and file for divorce. And he has the hubris to equal the breakup of his marriage to Jesus being crucified. *rolls eyes* Dreher, for the record, is one of those moral scolds like David Brooks and Ross Douthat.

Ugh, get over yourself Dreher

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darthstar  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:31:43pm

This was supposed to be a Pearls Before Swine…please refresh.

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darthstar  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:32:58pm

re: #111 darthstar

This was supposed to be a Pearls Before Swine…please refresh.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:33:03pm
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Sherlock Hound  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:35:52pm

re: #112 darthstar

No snobs like food snobs!

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Charles Johnson  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:37:02pm

re: #97 b.d

Sorry to elicit so many negative reactions to my posts. I am seeing us headed off a cliff if we don’t get our stuff together and we’ll deserve it..

If this is not a place to voice concerns then I’ll find another outlet.

I’d prefer you didn’t. We’re all trying to deal with events and sometimes responses get heated and can feel negative, but unless I’m misreading the room I don’t think anyone wants to see you leave.

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:37:32pm

...

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EstebanTornado1963  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:40:32pm

Of course Texas
apple.news

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:41:55pm

re: #115 Charles Johnson

I’d prefer you didn’t. We’re all trying to deal with events and sometimes responses get heated and can feel negative, but unless I’m misreading the room I don’t think anyone wants to see you leave.

I second that!

I’ve had my share of hostile comments and occasionally been upset but this is still the best forum out there for the exchange of political ideas.

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mmmirele  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:43:42pm

re: #19 Captain Magic

The chapter 11 that Jones filed tolls the lawsuit, while those who won lawsuits against him now become creditors in the bankruptcy.

Of course, IANAL….

Well, obviously, the bk could go through the bankruptcy courts, which means that the plaintiffs are now creditors and have to wait until the trustee sells and then pays the creditors. On the other hand, if, as has been alleged, Jones might end up in trouble with the bk court if he engages in bankruptcy fraud in listing out his assets. It’s rumored Jones has been moving assets to relatives and friends to avoid having to disclose them in the bankruptcy. I’m pretty sure the Sandy Hook families’ attorneys have engaged a bankruptcy specialist to figure out their next steps.

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darthstar  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:50:19pm
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Captain Ron  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:51:24pm

re: #120 darthstar

Yeah, so.

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jaunte  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:53:43pm

re: #120 darthstar

Putin continues his transition into Kim Jong Un.

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Captain Ron  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:55:23pm

YouTube

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darthstar  Apr 20, 2022 • 7:59:23pm
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darthstar  Apr 20, 2022 • 8:00:32pm

That cat looks like it saw Marjorie Taylor Greene with her pants down.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Apr 20, 2022 • 8:00:38pm

re: #86 rhuarc

Apparently Democrats are the only ones in government? Did I miss when that happened?

I also missed the point where Biden was elected dictator and could do whatever the fuck he wants without worrying about Congress, the courts, or that pesky fucking constitution.

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A Cranky One  Apr 20, 2022 • 8:00:45pm

re: #118 Hecuba’s daughter

I second that!

I’ve had my share of hostile comments and occasionally been upset but this is still the best forum out there for the exchange of political ideas.

Agree. This isn’t an echo chamber and so some comments may be challenged. The subsequent discussion is usually enlightening and helpful to all.

That makes the community valuable.

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A Cranky One  Apr 20, 2022 • 8:02:58pm

re: #125 darthstar

That cat looks like it saw Marjorie Taylor Greene with her pants down.

Bad lizard. BAD!

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Apr 20, 2022 • 8:04:19pm

re: #120 darthstar

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And this is different than the 7000 other nuclear weapons he has already how? This is presented like “hey look we have ICBMs now” like he’s fucking Kim Jong Un.

Hey 1957 called, it wants it’s headline back.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 20, 2022 • 8:04:37pm

re: #127 A Cranky One

Agree. This isn’t an echo chamber and so some comments may be challenged. The subsequent discussion is usually enlightening and helpful to all.

That makes the community valuable.

I guess it’s time for a different controversial take.

Days after York County, Penna. school board approved a school-hours Bible study group, they denied a Satanic Temple after-school club. Cue the threat of a lawsuit for religious discrimination.

“There is a lot of evil already in this world, so to allow it to come into our school and our community is not OK,” said parent, Laura Vangeli.

“Satan is a liar and Satan will show himself as light when in fact he’s not light,” Maddie Snelbaker said.

Hundreds of parents bringing out the pitchforks to tonight’s school board meeting.

According to the Satanic Temple — a couple of parents from the district asked for the program — in response to the board green lighting a bible study group during school hours.

(more)

katv.com

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CleverToad  Apr 20, 2022 • 8:05:56pm

re: #84 b.d

Thank you for acknowledging my concerns rather than questioning my motives.

We can’t become an unquestioning party like the other guys.

I have opinions. My opinions may not match everyone’s. My opinions shouldn’t match everyone’s. I am wrong a lot. No one is right all the time.

It sucks, we are right in our goals. Denying that there are real problems is not laying out a welcome mat to the GOP and me vocalizing them is not inviting them to power. C’mon people,

re: #108 wrenchwench

The only part I’m uncomfortable with is the use of ‘deserve’. I’m starting to think no human deserves reality. It’s too fucking hard.

If we can’t fix our shit, we don’t deserve worse shit because we failed. We need to try harder.

b.d. — Understand the frustration, definitely. Not questioning your choice to rant here, a lot of us feel it. The cliff is way too visible and a lot of questions need asking. We don’t want you to leave, or to shut up.

But when you declared you’re not going to vote, that the Dems ‘aren’t worthy’ it rang a sour note for me. That may just be venting your anger, but it smacked of all the self-important nothing-less-than-perfectionists I’ve had to listen to. That’s their irresponsible response to reality.

Yell as loud and specific as you can to the Dem officials, they need to hear it. But when it comes to Election Day, please hold your nose and vote anyway? There’s a future at stake.

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Crush White Nationalism  Apr 20, 2022 • 8:10:19pm

re: #125 darthstar

That cat looks like it saw Marjorie Taylor Greene with her pants down.

That’s the thought I’ll go to sleep with. Thanks Darth.

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b.d  Apr 20, 2022 • 8:11:14pm

re: #115 Charles Johnson

I’d prefer you didn’t. We’re all trying to deal with events and sometimes responses get heated and can feel negative, but unless I’m misreading the room I don’t think anyone wants to see you leave.

Thank you and I know that. It is tough speaking up in any group but this place would suck if people didn’t do it.

This is a special place with the more independent and intellectual thought than 99% of the others. The margin of error is probably due to my posts.

The open and honest dialogue is what drew me to this place and that remains paramount.

The emotional attachments and friendships I have forged, even being especially socially inept mean the world to me.

Sorry for all the drama dearest folks.

It would be a lot easier in the future if you just agreed with me. :)

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darthstar  Apr 20, 2022 • 8:12:19pm

re: #132 Punish Domestic Terrorists

That’s the thought I’ll go to sleep with. Thanks Darth.

Sweet dreams…or is it sweat dreams?

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Apr 20, 2022 • 8:16:56pm

re: #120 darthstar

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A good part of the goober- audience will not know that MIRV and ICBMs are nothing new. I expect Madison Cawthorn and other usual suspects to trumpet this as yet another example of Russian invincibility.

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darthstar  Apr 20, 2022 • 8:17:09pm

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darthstar  Apr 20, 2022 • 8:19:39pm

re: #135 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

A good part of the goober- audience will not know that MIRV and ICBMs are nothing new. I expect Madison Cawthorn and other usual suspects to trumpet this as yet another example of Russian invincibility.p

Their launches can be monitored. Their flight paths can be calculated. Their destinations identified…all in the few hours it takes for them to travel 6800 miles. (Siberia —> Central Montana > 30 minutes). Back in the 70s they were a real threat. Now? We’d have five or six passes at them before they even got over a population center.

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A Cranky One  Apr 20, 2022 • 8:28:53pm

re: #130 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’ve had the opportunity to meet some amazing people of different faiths who’ve made major sacrifices to help improve the lives of others.

I can separate them from the institutional rot at the head of some faiths.

So while I can condem the institutional hypocrisy of many faiths, I can’t and won’t paint all practitioners of that faith with a broad brush.

I knew a nun who traveled from village to village through Africa, teaching people how to make an electrolyte solution (think pedialyte) from local ingredients. Since infant death from dehydration (due to diarrhea) was common, she saved many lives, while living in poverty and risking her life daily.

Her faith drove her actions. So while I’ll acknowledge the issues with the institutional church, I won’t ever consider her evil because of her faith.

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GlutenFreeJesus  Apr 20, 2022 • 8:36:12pm

O. M. G.

Youtube Video

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A Cranky One  Apr 20, 2022 • 8:37:28pm

re: #138 A Cranky One

FYI Mouse, I’m very pleased you returned and enjoy your inputs!

We missed you.

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William Lewis  Apr 20, 2022 • 8:38:29pm

re: #135 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

A good part of the goober- audience will not know that MIRV and ICBMs are nothing new. I expect Madison Cawthorn and other usual suspects to trumpet this as yet another example of Russian invincibility.

IIRC MIRVs on Minuteman missiles was a big thing that pushed the Russians to the table at SALT I.

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mmmirele  Apr 20, 2022 • 8:48:33pm

re: #92 wrenchwench

I was hearing a lot about this pre-pandemic, and not a thing since Feb. 2020.

I remember (again before the pandemic) there was a cluster of EVALI cases in Utah, which kind of surprised me (but yeah, there are smokers in Utah). I don’t remember if they found out anything more.

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darthstar  Apr 20, 2022 • 8:51:30pm

And with this image I go to bed. Good night everyone.

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mmmirele  Apr 20, 2022 • 8:54:33pm

re: #130 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I guess it’s time for a different controversial take.

Days after York County, Penna. school board approved a school-hours Bible study group, they denied a Satanic Temple after-school club. Cue the threat of a lawsuit for religious discrimination.

(more)

katv.com

Yeah, the county just purchased themselves a lawsuit. What disturbs me about this article is this:

According to the Satanic Temple — a couple of parents from the district asked for the program — in response to the board green lighting a bible study group during school hours.

That’s got me going WTAF?! During school hours? *shakes head violently* no no no no no…

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ckkatz  Apr 20, 2022 • 9:09:56pm

re: #5 Backwoods_Sleuth

Capitol Police are not happy

When Constabulary Duty’s To Be Done, To Be Done,
A Policeman’s Lot Is Not A Happy One.

- Gilbert and Sullivan -A Policeman’s Lot

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 20, 2022 • 9:11:14pm

re: #140 A Cranky One

FYI Mouse, I’m very pleased you returned and enjoy your inputs!

We missed you.

Thanks.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 20, 2022 • 9:13:30pm
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A Mom Anon  Apr 20, 2022 • 9:14:16pm

Things are not getting better and I am falling apart at all the seams:

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 20, 2022 • 9:25:29pm

re: #148 A Mom Anon

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2022 • 9:26:08pm

re: #86 rhuarc

Apparently Democrats are the only ones in government? Did I miss when that happened?

This.

Biden attempted to address inflation. The Republicans and two Democratic senators opposed it.

Democrats passed two massive spending bills, and Biden has been getting minority and women judges approved, including the first African American woman to become SCOTUS. The Secretary of the Interior has been fixing not only Trump era crap, but shit that has been going on since we claimed lands west of Plymouth.

If we want more, we’re going to need to make Manchin and Sinema and Republicans irrelevant.

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2022 • 9:28:23pm

re: #97 b.d

Sorry to elicit so many negative reactions to my posts. I am seeing us headed off a cliff if we don’t get our stuff together and we’ll deserve it..

If this is not a place to voice concerns then I’ll find another outlet.

You have all the rights to post here that Charles allows, and we have all the rights that Charles allows to respond.

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2022 • 9:32:08pm

re: #120 darthstar

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As a child of the Cold War, I’m used to living my life under the shadow of nuclear annihilation. You go on as if it won’t happen, because otherwise you don’t get anything done.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 20, 2022 • 9:32:35pm

re: #148 A Mom Anon

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CleverToad  Apr 20, 2022 • 9:36:29pm

re: #148 A Mom Anon

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 20, 2022 • 9:37:55pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 20, 2022 • 9:41:15pm

re: #148 A Mom Anon

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2022 • 9:42:27pm

re: #155 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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A Mom Anon  Apr 20, 2022 • 9:42:28pm

re: #149 Hecuba’s daughter

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Captain Ron  Apr 20, 2022 • 9:45:51pm
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Belafon  Apr 20, 2022 • 9:50:01pm

re: #159 Dread Pirate Ron

In questionablecontent.net, a web comic that’s been going on for a long time now, one of the robots works for a sex toy factory as a tester. But what she tests is what speed they will break of they are fired at a wall, or if they are exploded.

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A Mom Anon  Apr 20, 2022 • 9:51:51pm

re: #156 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2022 • 9:54:32pm

re: #160 Belafon

questionablecontent.net

questionablecontent.net

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William Lewis  Apr 20, 2022 • 9:59:49pm

re: #160 Belafon

In questionablecontent.net, a web comic that’s been going on for a long time now, one of the robots works for a sex toy factory as a tester. But what she tests is what speed they will break of they are fired at a wall, or if they are exploded.

Yup I thought of that on seeing the article.

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A Cranky One  Apr 20, 2022 • 10:01:46pm

re: #148 A Mom Anon

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ckkatz  Apr 20, 2022 • 10:07:15pm

re: #159 Dread Pirate Ron

Not surprised about this set of tweets from Michael Weiss.

He is a journalist who has written a good bit on Russia and Ukraine. Recently he and a couple of other journalists from his organization went down a rabbit-hole when they decided to identify all the people in a photograph from a 2018 mission between Russia’s Foreign Minister and Japan.

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Targetpractice  Apr 20, 2022 • 10:20:29pm

re: #97 b.d

Sorry to elicit so many negative reactions to my posts. I am seeing us headed off a cliff if we don’t get our stuff together and we’ll deserve it..

If this is not a place to voice concerns then I’ll find another outlet.

No need to leave, my friend. I’ve been semi-regularly getting yelled at for suggesting I won’t vote for Dems in November* because of reservations about the direction of the party for months now and I’m still here. So long as you don’t scream “HEIL TRUMP!” and keep up with your dues to the Vast Liberal Conspiracytm, then you’re in no danger of being asked to leave.

* Something I’ve never said, but keep getting accused of

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 20, 2022 • 10:28:11pm
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ckkatz  Apr 20, 2022 • 10:28:36pm

re: #166 Targetpractice

No need to leave, my friend. I’ve been semi-regularly getting yelled at for suggesting I won’t vote for Dems in November* because of reservations about the direction of the party for months now and I’m still here. So long as you don’t scream “HEIL TRUMP!” and keep up with your dues to the Vast Liberal Conspiracytm, then you’re in no danger of being asked to leave.

* Something I’ve never said, but keep getting accused of

It seems to me that many, if not most of us, agree on the goals and share the same frustrations. And many of us certainly need to vent on occasion.

But I think that we also usually agree that the vote choice is binary, which of two political parties is _more_ perfect. And not just whether or not the Democrats are perfect.

On the Democratic decisions…I admit that sometimes I am not convinced by their decisions. But, in the end, I voted for them to do the job. And it is now up to them to do it. In a less than perfect environment.

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Citizen K  Apr 20, 2022 • 10:36:24pm

re: #93 Hecuba’s daughter

I’m old; I was a teenager and young adult through the turmoil and assassination and deaths in the 1960’s and early 70’s. I was “Clean for Gene” in the 1968 election. Even though many of my friends refused to support Humphrey, I decided that in a choice between Nixon and Humphrey, it’s Humphrey who would get my vote, the first year I was eligible to vote. I did not trust Nixon back then and his successful Southern strategy that transformed the Republican party certainly confirmed my concern. He ran on a “secret” plan to end the war and managed to get the plurality needed to win, at which time he escalated the conflict.

I don’t consider Biden a lesser evil, but the impossible task with the 50-50 Senate when 2 of our 50 often are hitting for the other side makes it difficult to accomplish his goals. How many positions in all areas of the government remain unfilled because of the obstacles imposed by the party of treason? How many problems are due to the large number of judges that Trump appointed because too many voters hated Hillary and either voted for Jill or voted Trump or sat the election out? We almost lost it all after the 2020 election — my sister keeps saying “who would have thought Dan Quayle was the one to save democracy”. As discouraging as it seems, we have to keep fighting. Our system failed completely with the corrupt 1876 election and it took 90 years to recover from that damage; if we let this evil triumph again, there will be no coming back.

re: #107 rhuarc

Your ire should be directed at national news media. THEY are the fucking problem. Unless a Democrats generates a buzzworthy 10 second sound bite about Disney characters fucking or something clickbaity did it even happen? The Republicans have spent 40 years taking over our government piece by piece, inch by inch while simultaneously priming the news media to give them all the deference in the world that Democrats are never given.

Record low unemployment rate. Household cash vs. debt is at levels not seen in 40 years. All of these positive economic things that can be talked about, but that doesn’t generate anger which generates clicks and eyeballs on our media content. Let a Republican say the most ridiculous lie about the economy and they’ll get their spot in news media for a few days which allows that false information to become the narrative.

Democrats can do all of the stuff you want, but that doesn’t make the news. The ridiculousness of the Republicans in response does. That is what we should be fighting.

This is where I’m at too. Like I’ve said before not too recently, I’m nearing that point of despondence myself. But where my despondence lays is not with the Dems, because I recognize exactly that circumstances leave us with virtually no margin of error, and unlike administrations before, I no longer hold any delusions that the GOP will act as anything more than a monolith against any and all progress. We at best hold the Senate by a mere technicality, and as Hecuba’s Daughter points out, we’re still clearing out the rot left behind by Trump in government agencies that have become poison pills to us acting on so much.

No, my despondence has been reserved for those who refuse to direct any measure of anger or blame toward Republicans and almost solely aim the guns toward the Dems. Both the media that has enabled GOP bad faith and weaponized their own thin skin against any and all Dem criticism, and the ‘do something’ crowd who parlays the lack of visible progress to an immediate lack of will on Dems’ part and forgo any sort of agency toward the GOP. It’s all treated as if the Dems have the fucking Green Lantern ring and could will the utopia into existence and that they haven’t proves that they are the sole meaningful roadblock to anything getting done. Meanwhile, the GOP continues to parlay that lack of blame and consequence into rolling back decades of progress on things like women’s rights, LGBT rights, etc in a tenth of the time it took to actually secure many of those rights. But call it out, and it’s somehow deflection from how much Dems suck and are awful and if they only DID SOMETHING, then something would magically happen and Republicans would crumble to dust like vampires.

It’s the sheer mass prevalence of that everywhere that I see that has me despondent, because it’s literally seeing perfect as the enemy of good. It’s the victory of accelerationism, that seeing the GOP burn everything good down is acceptable because the destruction of the Dems is seen as necessary for even a chance at progress, that we are so hated and despised that us trying to change things is so much more hated than letting the GOP get their way forever that people are willing to shitkick us and overtly crow “I would rather see you defeated and ground into irrelevance than try to fight the GOP”. That such mindset is prevailing and about to do exactly that, hand the ultimate victory to the GOP simply to spite Dems for not being perfect, for not waving the magic wand on a government already beset with institutional advantages and roadblocks that favor the GOP. This, on top of institutional preferences in the media and an electorate that accepts certain behaviors from Republicans but demands bipartisanship and decorum on our parts or otherwise we’re the ones making things ‘uncivil’.

That’s what has me on the edge: that the very act of trying and failing, for any reason, is the worst thing that could happen, even worse than not trying and simply letting evil win. That any failure proves that we are the problem, and the real enemy, and that by our very existence we are ‘the problem’. And that nothing we can do seems to change that, but only exacerbates the problem to the point that our very existence is seen as ‘failure’, that anything and everything we stand for must fall because if we support it, it must be somehow wrong, not because it’s actually wrong, but because it’s not perfect enough to stand up against an enemy that has numerous institutional advantages, but is still somehow seen as so weak and frail that simply willing victory should be enough.

That this is what’s going to kill us in 2022 and 2024, for some us quite literally.

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Targetpractice  Apr 20, 2022 • 10:38:07pm

re: #168 ckkatz

It seems to me that many, if not most of us, agree on the goals and share the same frustrations. And many of us certainly need to vent on occasion.

But I think that we also usually agree that the vote choice is binary, which of two political parties is _more_ perfect. And not just whether or not the Democrats are perfect.

On the Democratic decisions…I admit that sometimes I am not convinced by their decisions. But, in the end, I voted for them to do the job. And it is now up to them to do it. In a less than perfect environment.

I don’t question the argument of saying that voting for Dems is far more preferable if one wants to avoid a lot of very bad things that will happen if Repubs should return to power. But we need to find a better way to express that than immediately getting in the face of anybody who voices reluctance or concern about the Dem party’s current path and screaming “VOTE DEM OR YOU’RE A FASCIST!!!” I say that mostly because I had a ground-level view of the recent gubernatorial race here in VA and watched the white bread mayonnaise sandwich that our party ran lose bigly because his entire campaign platform was “MY OPPONENT IS ENDORSED BY DONALD TRUMP!!!”

We barely held Congress two years ago despite record turnouts and that was with Donald Trump on the ballot. Dems don’t have that advantage this year, no matter how hard our candidates try to pin him to their Repub opponents. Plus electoral amnesia is setting in, that condition where voters tend to forget just how much of a shitshow the last administration was by the time the midterms roll around. So that they’re gonna be going to the polls in November being bombarded for months by the media with stories about “Runaway inflation!” and “Sky-rocketing gas prices!” And the best we can offer is an infrastructure bill that barely anybody remembers and judges who nobody could name without Google.

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ckkatz  Apr 20, 2022 • 10:42:36pm

Interesting…

The Slovaks offered their self propelled artillery. Now the Netherlands are offering some of the German built self propelled howitzers they have.

Self propelled howitzers are usually used within armored brigades. Towed artillery are generally used within infantry brigades.

The big problem, that I see, is that both countries only have enough howitzers for maybe 2-3 battalions of self propelled artillery. The usual ratio is one artillery battalion (18-24 howitzers) per maneuver brigade. And I suspect that Ukraine has well over 10 armored brigades.

It is generally a bad idea to have multiple different models of complicated machinery, like self propelled artillery. Trying to train soldiers to use and maintain those multiple models and to keep on hand multiple sets of spare parts is way too complicated to work well.

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2022 • 10:55:01pm

re: #171 ckkatz

Interesting…

The Slovaks offered their self propelled artillery. Now the Netherlands are offering some of the German built self propelled howitzers they have.

Self propelled howitzers are usually used within armored brigades. Towed artillery are generally used within infantry brigades.

The big problem, that I see, is that both countries only have enough howitzers for maybe 2-3 battalions of self propelled artillery. The usual ratio is one artillery battalion (18-24 howitzers) per maneuver brigade. And I suspect that Ukraine has well over 10 armored brigades.

It is generally a bad idea to have multiple different models of complicated machinery, like self propelled artillery. Trying to train soldiers to use and maintain those multiple models and to keep on hand multiple sets of spare parts is way too complicated to work well.

Hand one set to the international troops.

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Teukka  Apr 20, 2022 • 10:55:07pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 20, 2022 • 10:57:25pm

re: #168 ckkatz

It seems to me that many, if not most of us, agree on the goals and share the same frustrations. And many of us certainly need to vent on occasion.

But I think that we also usually agree that the vote choice is binary, which of two political parties is _more_ perfect. And not just whether or not the Democrats are perfect.

On the Democratic decisions…I admit that sometimes I am not convinced by their decisions. But, in the end, I voted for them to do the job. And it is now up to them to do it. In a less than perfect environment.

I’m pretty much of the mind that if the choice is between a fascist party and a not-fascist party, you vote for the not-fascists. Not voting helps the fascists.

While comparisons to the Wiemar Republic are strained, the divisions of the left seeing each other as the biggest threat is what allowed the NSDAP to slip into power. Then the left was in jail.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 20, 2022 • 10:58:02pm

re: #158 A Mom Anon

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ckkatz  Apr 20, 2022 • 10:58:37pm

I respect what you are saying about the fact that the Democrats do not seem to be swaying enough voters with what they are currently doing. And I am deeply concerned as well.

re: #170 Targetpractice

But we need to find a better way to express that than immediately getting in the face of anybody who voices reluctance or concern about the Dem party’s current path and screaming “VOTE DEM OR YOU’RE A FASCIST!!!”
.

Regarding those who describe a hesitancy to voting Democrat or just not voting.
I put down the forceful pushback as a sign of deep concern…Okay, real fear for the future of our democracy and country. Particularly after what happened in 2016.

But, I have no doubt that you are already well aware of this.

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Belafon  Apr 20, 2022 • 11:01:17pm

re: #170 Targetpractice

The actual thing we yell is “VOTE DEM OR THE FASCISTS WILL WIN!”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 20, 2022 • 11:01:51pm

re: #173 Teukka

She looks terrified in that video.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Apr 20, 2022 • 11:03:03pm

re: #167 DodgerFan1988

Speaking of Ghouliani

I may or may not have mentioned this here before, but I know I’ve dropped this at a few places but haven’t got anyone to say if they can verify or have updated info to counter it, so I’ll ask again.

On April 5th I was watching Stuttering John Melendez’s livestream show because Philip Ittner was going to be on. Before Phil was on, John had Glenn Kirschner on. At one point John asked Glenn where has Giuliani been lately and Glenn said that he thinks Rudy flipped and is cooperating with the DoJ over Jan 6 and the fake electors.

Youtube Video

(The relevant stuff is at 47:40-50:20 in the video)

Since he mentioned this the only times I’ve seen Rudy on any of the GOP Bullshit Networks he was only talking about the bullshit crime wave, and about the fake Hunter Biden Laptop or Ukraine in general. I haven’t heard him mention the election once since or even say Clownstick’s name.

Has anyone else noticed this, or seen him mention the election close to or after April 5?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 20, 2022 • 11:07:01pm

In the category of “scratch a libertarian, find a fascist”:

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 20, 2022 • 11:07:12pm

re: #170 Targetpractice

…….
We barely held Congress two years ago despite record turnouts and that was with Donald Trump on the ballot. Dems don’t have that advantage this year, no matter how hard our candidates try to pin him to their Repub opponents. Plus electoral amnesia is setting in, that condition where voters tend to forget just how much of a shitshow the last administration was by the time the midterms roll around. So that they’re gonna be going to the polls in November being bombarded for months by the media with stories about “Runaway inflation!” and “Sky-rocketing gas prices!” And the best we can offer is an infrastructure bill that barely anybody remembers and judges who nobody could name without Google.

Democrats don’t care about judges which is why we are in the mess we have today; however, SCOTUS may give us “elect Democrats to restore a woman’s right to choose”. We have to learn to terrify Democrats the way Republicans terrify their base — we need to learn to blame sky rocketing gas prices on the fossil fuel industry and their cartel. And we need to use Rick Scott’s platform of raising taxes on the middle class and working class and his and GOP attacks on Social Security and Medicare against them.

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Targetpractice  Apr 20, 2022 • 11:09:42pm

re: #176 ckkatz

I respect what you are saying about the fact that the Democrats do not seem to be swaying enough voters with what they are currently doing. And I am deeply concerned as well.

Regarding those who describe a hesitancy to voting Democrat or just not voting.
I put down the forceful pushback as a sign of deep concern…Okay, real fear for the future of our democracy and country. Particularly after what happened in 2016.

But, I have no doubt that you are already well aware of this.

We need to find a healthier and more constructive way to express that concern than knee-jerk screaming. Or lecturing as though such people are unruly children, which is another thing I’ve witnessed in recent months, especially when the subject turns to younger voters and their own concerns. A poll comes out about the 18-35 demographic not being thrilled about voting Dem and the immediate response is to tell them to “grow up.” The 35 yr old worker who was counting on those promises of free/subsidized childcare to help them out is not on the same level as a 18 yr old pothead whining that Dems haven’t made more progress on legalization. We can’t lump them all in together and act as if they need to put aside their concerns “for the good of the country” or however we choose to phrase it.

The big problem I see us facing in coming months is that we’re not just all stick and no carrot, we think that anybody who points that out is effectively a fascist or fascist-adjacent. That’s actually worse than 2010, when we were desperately trying to sell a healthcare reform bill that wouldn’t start taking effect until after the next presidential election and desperately selling pothole filling as “shovel-ready jobs” to explain why the recovery from the Great Recession seemed to still be dragging on.

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piratedan  Apr 20, 2022 • 11:10:58pm

re: #73 b.d

sorry but I disagree….

is there still a mountain of shit to climb… yes, yes there is…. yet…

Ukraine is being helped and from the looks of things, they are winning the war of attrition
foreign policy gaffes are isolating Russia from damn near everyone and have been driving Ukraine, Sweden and Finland into NATO
the money given to lower and middle class families has ignited the economy and people ARE finding opportunities
while not resolved, those that believe in science are being and have been vaccinated
they’ve placed an educated, qualified liberal jurist onto the SCOTUS
the Jan 6th committee is causing the GOP to shit themselves and do whatever radical shit they can think of to distract that the gears are still grinding

is the GOP still fucking things up, yes… did we really expect them to stop?
the media is still mostly useless… unsure how anyone can save them from their myopic selves

there are STILL a shitpotfull of challenges, we’re still fighting and despite it all, there are STILL people working on winning. Over at Balloon Juice they’re working with getting more voters registered and fighting the illegal shit going down at the state and local levels.

you can either give in to despair or do what you can to convince people that there is a difference between the two sides… I desperately would prefer to live in a country where I don’t have to worry about what, if any religion my kids choose, to have them learn from the mistakes made rather than glorify them in our Country’s past… the thing we have to remember is that the people pulling the strings are rich and are more than willing to spend to keep it that way. They believe that life is cheap and to more than quite a few of them, we’re nothing more than pawns anyway. I see no reason to sit back and let them win, so I donate my money (and time when I can) and make sure to pay those who know how to organize and have skin in the game (as we all do) to get boots on the ground.

It’s how we turned AZ and I believe its how we flipped GA, I think we can make gains elsewhere and if I need to find a wellspring of enthusiasm, all I have to do is look at what the fuck is going on with the GOP going after LGBTQ, Women, minorities, jews, athiests and anyone who doesn’t match their tribal markers and keep at it.

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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Apr 20, 2022 • 11:12:55pm

re: #170 Targetpractice

So that they’re gonna be going to the polls in November being bombarded for months by the media with stories about “Runaway inflation!” and “Sky-rocketing gas prices!” And the best we can offer is an infrastructure bill that barely anybody remembers and judges who nobody could name without Google.

Although I wont count on this solely, it’s very possible that neither of these things will be a thing in the fall.

Congress and the administration should work to fix these things as much as they can (which frankly isn’t much… it’s a world supply chain shock problem, not a US problem), but I wouldn’t be pants crapping terrified of these things unless they are still a big problem in September.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 20, 2022 • 11:15:25pm

re: #161 A Mom Anon

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 20, 2022 • 11:16:08pm

Keep supporting those Russian assets, Libertarian Party.

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Citizen K  Apr 20, 2022 • 11:18:01pm

re: #181 Hecuba’s daughter

Democrats don’t care about judges which is why we are in the mess we have today; however, SCOTUS may give us “elect Democrats to restore a woman’s right to choose”. We have to learn to terrify Democrats the way Republicans terrify their base — we need to learn to blame sky rocketing gas prices on the fossil fuel industry and their cartel. And we need to use Rick Scott’s platform of raising taxes on the middle class and working class and his and GOP attacks on Social Security and Medicare against them.

The main roadblock there, as with almost every single ‘Dems are bad at messaging’ issue, is the fact that political press in this country has been hardwired for GOP messaging. If it’s not dedicated conservative media machines, it’s that ‘real’ news outlets like the NYT have made it their mission statement to take the GOP at face value and assume the best of faith from them, even when they’re blatantly acting in bad faith. And if a Dem wants to say something, the only way it gets reported is if a Republican is allowed to set the frame. When so many of the platforms we have to use to spread ‘the message’ are almost perfectly slanted to privilege GOP voices to exclusion, it’s extremely hard to get the word out about anything. And when you try to point this out, all you get is kicked in the teeth and told it’s almost purely the Dems’ fault wholesale.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 20, 2022 • 11:22:15pm

Libertarian Party of Washington retweeting galaxy brain Rep. Thomas Massie:

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ckkatz  Apr 20, 2022 • 11:24:54pm

There is a story from the World War 2 Normandy Landings in 1944.

US soldiers were attempting to surround a German bunker on the beach. They started hearing yelling, then some shots and loud cheering. Suddenly a bunch of Germans soldiers exited the bunker and surrendered to the Americans.

It turned out that the soldiers were draftees who had lived in Poland until Germany forcefully incorporated their area into Germany. They were sent as a unit under a German sergeant to man a bunker on the Normandy beach. When the Americans landed the soldiers wanted to surrender, but the sergeant would not let them. So, eventually they shot the sergeant and surrendered.

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Targetpractice  Apr 20, 2022 • 11:28:41pm

re: #181 Hecuba’s daughter

Democrats don’t care about judges which is why we are in the mess we have today; however, SCOTUS may give us “elect Democrats to restore a woman’s right to choose”. We have to learn to terrify Democrats the way Republicans terrify their base — we need to learn to blame sky rocketing gas prices on the fossil fuel industry and their cartel. And we need to use Rick Scott’s platform of raising taxes on the middle class and working class and his and GOP attacks on Social Security and Medicare against them.

The WH and Congressional Dems alike have accused oil companies of price-gouging, but beyond that there’s been no real effort to do something about it. “Windfall profit tax” bills were filed in both houses of Congress, but you’d be forgiven for not knowing that because the party’s doing nothing with them. There’s no effort to get them through committees, nor is leadership making any noises about bringing them to the floor for votes. That’s leaving a lot of dead air for the media to fill in with stories about how Dems have “no answers” for high gas prices and bringing in Repubs to rant away about how Biden killing Keystone XL is why we’re paying so much at the pump.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 20, 2022 • 11:29:34pm
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Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion  Apr 20, 2022 • 11:31:01pm

re: #188 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Libertarian Party of Washington retweeting galaxy brain Rep. Thomas Massie:

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He does realize that Clownstick was in charge for the worst parts of it right?

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No Malarkey!  Apr 20, 2022 • 11:34:20pm
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Targetpractice  Apr 20, 2022 • 11:35:12pm

re: #189 ckkatz

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There is a story from the World War 2 Normandy Landings in 1944.

US soldiers were attempting to surround a German bunker on the beach. They started hearing yelling, then some shots and loud cheering. Suddenly a bunch of Germans soldiers exited the bunker and surrendered to the Americans.

It turned out that the soldiers were draftees who had lived in Poland until Germany forcefully incorporated their area into Germany. They were sent as a unit under a German sergeant to man a bunker on the Normandy beach. When the Americans landed the soldiers wanted to surrender, but the sergeant would not let them. So, eventually they shot the sergeant and surrendered.

Much of the manpower on the Atlantic Wall was composed of either second-line troops or Osttruppen (literally “Eastern troops”) who were men that had been forced into German service from Soviet territories. They were basically seen as disposable troops, that if they died fighting off the Allies then it was no great loss to the Reich. What’s worse is that the Germans made no secret of their distaste for such practices, but the realities of war meant they couldn’t turn away the manpower.

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Targetpractice  Apr 20, 2022 • 11:49:00pm

re: #192 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

He does realize that Clownstick was in charge for the worst parts of it right?

The Cult of Trump is capitalizing on that electoral amnesia I talked about up-thread to convince voters that the biggest tragedy of 2020 was not the hundreds of thousands of Americans who died from a purely preventable illness, but rather the billions in stock value that Wall Street lost when people got scared and stayed home. They’re working hard to convince voters that their personal frustrations during the pandemic, like wearing masks that they felt uncomfortable, or having big events they planned for canceled, or simply not being able to go to the bar on Friday after work, were all personal tragedies that Dems need to answer for. Why? Because not everybody died of CV-19 and that’s proof that the experts were “wrong.”

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ckkatz  Apr 20, 2022 • 11:50:23pm

Interesting, if slightly out of date map of the battle line in Ukraine:

pbs.twimg.com

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ckkatz  Apr 20, 2022 • 11:52:16pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Apr 20, 2022 • 11:57:41pm

This sounds like an uninteresting way to spend my day.

Military holding town halls on new missile system project this month (KSID-AM, Sidney, Nebr.)

The U.S. Air Force is holding town meetings and community engagements in Nebraska this month to inform the public about the new intercontinental ballistic missile system, Sentinel, expected to break ground in 2026.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 21, 2022 • 12:05:27am

re: #193 No Malarkey!

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Targetpractice  Apr 21, 2022 • 12:09:39am

Though again, the pandemic response is another area where Dems did themselves no favors. Yeah, the national party were screaming bloody murder about the Trump WH both dragging their feet and actively undermining state-level responses, but the state and local level Dems were not exactly helping their case. Speaking again as a Virginian, I got whiplash from how Governor Blackface approached the pandemic on the state level.

First, he and state Dems dodged the issue of a shutdown or made comments that such was “unnecessary” because the number of new cases in the Commonwealth were low enough to think it wasn’t going to be an issue. Then a shutdown was imposed but there was a long list of businesses that were exempted as “essential.” Yet not two weeks into the reluctantly imposed shutdown, Northam comes out to the podium to announce that the shutdown’s being lifted for Hampton Roads beach towns in time for Memorial Day weekend. The cherry atop this shit sundae was then seeing our governor (who is a doctor) out at VA Beach that weekend, shaking hands and posing for pictures without a mask, followed by his staff making a weak sauce excuse about “he forgot it in the car.”

Yeah, Gavin Newsom was the big name in the national news, but there were plenty of stories in the local papers about Dems ignoring the very shutdowns and mandates they were making all sorts of noise about the necessity of because they didn’t want to cancel a dinner or avoid pressing the flesh with voters in time for the general election.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2022 • 12:38:14am

re: #201 Targetpractice

The United States needed a top-down, decisive, consistent and centralized approach to Covid.

That was not forthcoming from TFG as he was in full denial mode that there was a problem. The Dems were not in a position to do anything but scramble as best they could under the chaotic, contradictory circumstances only to be chided for being “ineffective”.

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wrenchwench  Apr 21, 2022 • 12:39:32am

It just turned into tomorrow. Or, as some people call it, yesterday.

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Targetpractice  Apr 21, 2022 • 12:46:04am

re: #202 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

The United States needed a top-down, decisive, consistent and centralized approach to Covid.

That was not forthcoming from TFG as he was in full denial mode that there was a problem. The Dems were not in a position to do anything but scramble as best they could under the chaotic, contradictory circumstances only to be chided for being “ineffective”.

In absence of leadership from the WH, there needed to be some sort of national-level leadership from the party. We needed something like the Howard Dean “50 State Strategy” days of the party getting on the same page and sticking to it. Instead, we got this balkanization of various state parties acting in their own immediate interests to the detriment of the party at large. Which lead to situations like here in VA where hotels yelling in Northam’s ear about all the money they were losing and set to lose if they couldn’t open in time for summer tourism overrode public health concerns.

The result was a massive spike in infections that were centered in tourism-heavy cities and towns, to which the state imposed mandates…that they then left to health inspectors to enforce without any corresponding increase in funding for additional manpower. The worst a business could face at the height of the pandemic for failure to enforce mask mandates or social distancing was a fine and maybe losing their business license if they received multiple citations.

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Captain Ron  Apr 21, 2022 • 1:04:07am
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No Malarkey!  Apr 21, 2022 • 1:05:37am

re: #204 Targetpractice

In absence of leadership from the WH, there needed to be some sort of national-level leadership from the party. We needed something like the Howard Dean “50 State Strategy” days of the party getting on the same page and sticking to it. Instead, we got this balkanization of various state parties acting in their own immediate interests to the detriment of the party at large. Which lead to situations like here in VA where hotels yelling in Northam’s ear about all the money they were losing and set to lose if they couldn’t open in time for summer tourism overrode public health concerns.

The result was a massive spike in infections that were centered in tourism-heavy cities and towns, to which the state imposed mandates…that they then left to health inspectors to enforce without any corresponding increase in funding for additional manpower. The worst a business could face at the height of the pandemic for failure to enforce mask mandates or social distancing was a fine and maybe losing their business license if they received multiple citations.

In the U.S. system of government, that is very hard to do. In the absence of a coherent federal response, the state governments had all of the power, and state level politicians are going to listen to the most powerful voices in their state, not someone at the DNC who has no authority.

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Targetpractice  Apr 21, 2022 • 1:10:44am

re: #206 No Malarkey!

In the U.S. system of government, that is very hard to do. In the absence of a coherent federal response, the state governments had all of the power, and state level politicians are going to listen to the most powerful voices in their state, not someone at the DNC who has no authority.

Hence why there is now a lot of public resentment that the GQP are looking to capitalize on, as the absence of a unified response left state level Dems focused more on their own political interests than public safety. The national level party’s banging the war drums, declaring that the experts who are calling for shutdowns need to be listened to, while the local Dems are assuring voters that they aren’t gonna even consider a shutdown unless one becomes “necessary.”

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No Malarkey!  Apr 21, 2022 • 1:15:31am
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Targetpractice  Apr 21, 2022 • 1:30:09am

re: #208 No Malarkey!

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What makes it especially galling is that if you combined all the money that Hunter Biden is alleged to have received for “influence peddling,” it still doesn’t come near to Jared getting a $2B check cut by Prince Bonesaw.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 21, 2022 • 1:46:33am

Of course you can’t trust anything Putin says, but this strategy does make sense; Russian troops would get slaughtered if they stormed the plant.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 21, 2022 • 1:48:29am

I don’t think this is a heavy exaggeration of Russian losses so far.

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Targetpractice  Apr 21, 2022 • 1:52:01am

re: #211 No Malarkey!

I don’t think this is a heavy exaggeration of Russian losses so far.

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All that lost for what has turned into a war just to hold what they held this time last year.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 21, 2022 • 1:52:18am

Empty Russian blustering. Putin has been exposed as an emperor with no clothes.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2022 • 1:52:27am

re: #209 Targetpractice

What makes it especially galling is that if you combined all the money that Hunter Biden is alleged to have received for “influence peddling,” it still doesn’t come near to Jared getting a $2B check cut by Prince Bonesaw.

To the GOP, this is just a successful businessman doing successful business.

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steve_davis  Apr 21, 2022 • 1:53:14am

re: #124 darthstar

yeah, that cat has clearly seen some shit. possibly after finding the stash of peyote buttons in a hotel room keith moon had just finished wrecking.

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Targetpractice  Apr 21, 2022 • 1:53:40am

re: #213 No Malarkey!

Empty Russian blustering. Putin has been exposed as an emperor with no clothes.

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The response should be “With what army?”

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No Malarkey!  Apr 21, 2022 • 1:57:02am
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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Apr 21, 2022 • 2:28:05am

re: #97 b.d

Sorry to elicit so many negative reactions to my posts. I am seeing us headed off a cliff if we don’t get our stuff together and we’ll deserve it..

If this is not a place to voice concerns then I’ll find another outlet.

We welcome voicing of concerns. We react strongly to suggestions that they’re reasons to sit out the next election.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2022 • 2:32:05am

re: #73 b.d

Nobody is doing sh*t. If the democrats aren’t worthy of my vote then I won’t vote. Sorry. Enough.

Not voting - or voting protest - is tantamount to voting GOP.

That is what got us Trump in 2016.

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Captain Ron  Apr 21, 2022 • 2:56:21am

Echo Summit got a dusting of snow in the past 2 hours. It was almost gone from the images earlier tonight. We got another quarter inch of rain but it will all run off to early to help the water situation.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 21, 2022 • 3:14:33am

Let’s make the Democratic Party wonderful.

Let’s keep the fucking nazis from stealing the country.

Which comes first?

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TarHellion  Apr 21, 2022 • 3:21:14am

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William Lewis  Apr 21, 2022 • 3:34:53am

re: #221 Decatur Deb

Let’s make the Democratic Party wonderful.

Let’s keep the fucking nazis from stealing the country.

Which comes first?

This is, I think, the most important consideration. As a longtime socialist, the Democratic party has _always_ been far more conservative than I’d like. As rare as people like AOC are now for my voting life they’ve been even rarer.

The reality remains voting for the best candidate available. The intensely middle of the road Bill Clinton with his plan to screw up welfare was still better than the even far greater damage that another 4 years of Bush Senior or Bob Dole would have caused. That’s the calculation: how to live towards our ideals without falling into the GREEN trap: Getting Republicans Elected Every November.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 21, 2022 • 3:37:37am

An example of what is so weak about witnesses:

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2022 • 3:43:21am

re: #223 William Lewis

This is, I think, the most important consideration. As a longtime socialist, the Democratic party has _always_ been far more conservative than I’d like. As rare as people like AOC are now for my voting life they’ve been even rarer.

The reality remains voting for the best least worst candidate available.

but otherwise, I agree: voting for third-party candidates in most cases means helping the GOP win.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 21, 2022 • 3:45:33am

re: #224 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

There’s an important section in there about teaching oneself the lie.

Through the simple process of repetition - repeating your story over time - will convince you that it is true.

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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 21, 2022 • 3:46:44am

Happy burfday Robert!

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William Lewis  Apr 21, 2022 • 3:54:00am

re: #225 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

but otherwise, I agree: voting for third-party candidates in most cases means helping the GOP win.

Well, yes, 90% of the time best does = less bad. In a winner takes all system like ours though that’s often all we can do, so the best bet is to make it work as well as possible.

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Dangerman  Apr 21, 2022 • 3:54:29am

re: #223 William Lewis

This is, I think, the most important consideration. As a longtime socialist, the Democratic party has _always_ been far more conservative than I’d like. As rare as people like AOC are now for my voting life they’ve been even rarer.

The reality remains voting for the best candidate available. The intensely middle of the road Bill Clinton with his plan to screw up welfare was still better than the even far greater damage that another 4 years of Bush Senior or Bob Dole would have caused. That’s the calculation: how to live towards our ideals without falling into the GREEN trap: Getting Republicans Elected Every November.

An imperfect analogy:
You must eat
You have only two choices
- Edible food you do not like, may even hate.
- poison.

When people say ” I have no choice” what they tend to mean is “i don’t like the options”.

It’s still up to you even though you have to make a choice you’d rather not

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Decatur Deb  Apr 21, 2022 • 3:56:31am

Progressives: “We are stuck with us.”

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Jay C  Apr 21, 2022 • 3:56:40am

re: #194 Targetpractice

Much of the manpower on the Atlantic Wall was composed of either second-line troops or Osttruppen (literally “Eastern troops”) who were men that had been forced into German service from Soviet territories. They were basically seen as disposable troops, that if they died fighting off the Allies then it was no great loss to the Reich. What’s worse is that the Germans made no secret of their distaste for such practices, but the realities of war meant they couldn’t turn away the manpower.

Reminds me of a story I once saw about the Normandy operations: Allied troops captured four Asian men in German uniforms who spoke a language no one could understand. They were sent to London where it was determined that they were Korean. Their story was weird: they were the last survivors of a unit of Koreans who had been drafted into the Japanese Army in 1939: they had been captured by Soviet troops in one of the Russian-Japanese border wars, they had volunteered for the Red Army, fought in it til they were captured during Barbarossa, switched sides yet again, and ended the war fighting for the Wehrmacht in France. Maybe a fairly extreme example of “Osttruppen”: hopefully they got to retire peacefully back in Korea (doubtful, though)…

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Decatur Deb  Apr 21, 2022 • 3:58:54am

re: #231 Jay C

Reminds me of a story I once saw about the Normandy operations: Allied troops captured four Asian men in German uniforms who spoke a language no one could understand. They were sent to London where it was determined that they were Korean. Their story was weird: they were the last survivors of a unit of Koreans who had been drafted into the Japanese Army in 1939: they had been captured by Soviet troops in one of the Russian-Japanese border wars, they had volunteered for the Red Army, fought in it til they were captured during Barbarossa, switched sides yet again, and ended the war fighting for the Wehrmacht in France. Maybe a fairly extreme example of “Osttruppen”: hopefully they got to retire peacefully back in Korea (doubtful, though)…

They’d have made it home in time to be on one side or another of the Pusan breakout.

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Jay C  Apr 21, 2022 • 4:00:48am

re: #232 Decatur Deb

They’d have got home in time to be on one side or another of the Pusan breakout.

Yeah: Lucky them.

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William Lewis  Apr 21, 2022 • 4:01:36am

re: #231 Jay C

Reminds me of a story I once saw about the Normandy operations: Allied troops captured four Asian men in German uniforms who spoke a language no one could understand. They were sent to London where it was determined that they were Korean. Their story was weird: they were the last survivors of a unit of Koreans who had been drafted into the Japanese Army in 1939: they had been captured by Soviet troops in one of the Russian-Japanese border wars, they had volunteered for the Red Army, fought in it til they were captured during Barbarossa, switched sides yet again, and ended the war fighting for the Wehrmacht in France. Maybe a fairly extreme example of “Osttruppen”: hopefully they got to retire peacefully back in Korea (doubtful, though)…

Yang Kyoungjong

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Jay C  Apr 21, 2022 • 4:05:26am

re: #234 William Lewis

Yang Kyoungjong

Wikipedia Knows Everything, doesn’t it? 😁

Too bad the story couldn’t be confirmed, it’s too good to be fiction.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 21, 2022 • 4:07:24am

re: #234 William Lewis

His art seems to be getting properly captured.

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Dopamine Fish  Apr 21, 2022 • 4:14:14am

I could’ve had it in 4, but my brain was so stuck on non-possibilities that I finally decided to burn a guess on a word I knew wasn’t right, just to confirm the order of the letters I knew had to be in it.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 21, 2022 • 4:16:53am

Well it sounds like the Republican plan of obstructing everything and blaming the Dems for it all so Dem voters just say Fuck It, I’m Done Voting is continuing apace.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 21, 2022 • 4:27:56am

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Renaissance_Man  Apr 21, 2022 • 4:47:12am

re: #238 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Well it sounds like the Republican plan of obstructing everything and blaming the Dems for it all so Dem voters just say Fuck It, I’m Done Voting is continuing apace.

There are several issues here which we see in our microcosm of LGF, but which are also amplified across the country as a whole, and to some extent the world. The single biggest problem is the US media, most particularly the fascist networks that pump lies, fear and hate across cable and the internet. This is then amplified by more traditional US media, which has reinforced white supremacy for decades and is now doing its part to make sure that Americans as a whole continue to hear that anything a lot of white people believe is valid on its face. This turns into a relentless framing and narrative that tells everyone in the country, Democrats are weak, Democrats are worthless, everything is corrupt, it doesn’t even matter if outright fascists and criminals have everything.

In essence, the American people themselves are poisoned. Their 24/7 media environment has desensitised most of them and taught them to accept that living in an armed labour camp instead of a society is normal. It has taught them that it’s totally normal to live in fear of being shot at any time, to expect that you are only worth the value of your labour, to accept devastating poverty in the richest nation in history, and to expect the sum total of your life to be to generate wealth for rich people. But most importantly, it drums into them every day the idea that anyone who wants to make this better is the enemy. And that’s a very hard environment to do anything in.

Not all Americans accept that, of course. Several people want it to be better. The problem is that all the systems in the US are deliberately designed to not make anything better and to reinforce an oligarchy of rich white men wherever possible. The second problem is that those of us who want to make things better have that as our expectation - that things get better. When they don’t, or get better only incrementally so, it is hard to keep the motivation to continue to try. Conversely, the other side has only one motivation, which is hate. As long as there’s the promise of more people to hate, and more pleasure in seeing those they hate suffer, they will do literally anything to get it - vote, impoverish themselves, even die. As long as they get to feel more hate.

It’s a nearly impossible situation. The whole nation marinates daily in a bath that reinforces its feudal culture, liberally seasoned with hate. I don’t have a good answer. I just know that America could be so much better. It has the potential to do anything, to really be the greatest nation on Earth, but. It. Just. Won’t. It just won’t. Because its people don’t want to. I don’t know whether Americans just don’t want to because they’re told every day not to want to, or because it’s human nature to just be indifferent to suffering that you can’t see every day. Not sure I like either implication. But I know that I want it to be better. And wanting big things to be better seems impossible, but it’s not very different from other things that seem impossible. Losing weight, finishing a degree, getting a new job, all these things seem so out of reach sometimes. But every little step counts, whether it be making a phone call, dropping a little on a GoFundMe, or just making a vote. Even if it doesn’t do much, it’s an increment. And it reminds me that I still want it to be better.

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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 21, 2022 • 4:47:30am
“Piers, we have a problem.”

I was standing inside the gilded confines of President Donald Trump’s exclusive Mar-a-Lago private members’ resort in Palm Beach, Florida, and one of my production team was brandishing a document with a concerned look on his face.

“What’s that?” I asked, bemused.

“This is a collection of quotes you’ve apparently said about President Trump in the past two years. Someone sent it to him in the last hour, and the quotes are not good. In fact, they’re really bad.”

I was due to start an interview with Trump in precisely eight minutes, and it was intended to be a blockbuster exclusive to rocket-launch my new global TV show, “Piers Morgan Uncensored,” on Monday, April 25.

My four-camera crew were all set up in a palatial bar, I was suited, booted, made up and had been exchanging cordial small talk with Secret Service agents designated to ensure we behaved ourselves.

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“REMOVED FROM OFFICE?!” he spat. “BARRED FROM EVER RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AGAIN?!”

Then he threw down the document and threw me a look of withering contempt.

Give me Joe Rogan over cancel culture vultures like Harry and Meghan anytime
“I thought we were friends?” he shouted. “This is so disloyal! After all I’ve done for you? Why would you say all this about me?”

“I thought what you did was wrong,” I replied, feeling myself beginning to sweat.

This wasn’t going well.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2022 • 4:51:36am

re: #241 Renaissance_Man

There are several issues here which we see in our microcosm of LGF, but which are also amplified across the country as a whole, and to some extent the world. The single biggest problem is the US media, most particularly the fascist networks that pump lies, fear and hate across cable and the internet.

Some of our news media are selling an agenda and an ideology, the problem is that lots of them are just selling advertising time and do not care what kind of crap they broadcast as long as it appeals to their target audience.

Plus it is cheaper to get an intern to mine the Internet for stories than to pay money for investigative reporting.

People like Breitbart and Matt Drudge made their “reputations” from just floating whatever dreck they wanted to see on the Internet until the networks picked it up and ran with it because “Trending on Twitter” is a news item in itself these days.

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2022 • 5:01:13am
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darthstar  Apr 21, 2022 • 5:02:08am

re: #242 Shropshire Slasher

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The best part of that is how he got Trump to drop his rage by complimenting him on his golf. Like a fuckin’ light switch. And then the interview happened and it bubbled up again.

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2022 • 5:02:14am
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Dopamine Fish  Apr 21, 2022 • 5:05:05am

re: #243 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

People like Breitbart and Matt Drudge made their “reputations” from just floating whatever dreck they wanted to see on the Internet until the networks picked it up and ran with it because “Trending on Twitter” is a news item in itself these days.

And THIS is really the crux of the problem. Twitter is literally the fallacy of the vocal minority, writ large. Everybody thinks Twitter is representative of the world’s population, when in reality, Twitter is an extremely small subset of the planet’s people (or any individual country’s), and is generally comprised of the types of people who WANT to be on Twitter so that they can complain about what they want to complain about. That’s the overall problem with social media; it’s so easy to find an opinion you agree with, and a community to reinforce those beliefs. That’s how the crazy really got started, by like-minded right-wingers connecting and forming an impenetrable bubble that they retreated to whenever their worldview was challenged by outside sources. Mrs. Fish challenges me to push outside my left-leaning bubble daily, the problem is that I refuse to deal in the crazy, so I’m not sure where I can go to keep myself honest.

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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 21, 2022 • 5:08:35am

Elon doesn’t mind the higher gas prices.

Elon Musk’s Tesla blew past Wall Street expectations in its first quarter earnings report on Wednesday, posting yet another record profit despite investor jitters about supply chain issues and inflation.

The electric automaker posted $18.8 billion in revenue during the January through March quarter — significantly above analysts’ expectations of $17.8 billion and a whopping 81% higher than the $10.4 billion revenue reported during the same period last year.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Apr 21, 2022 • 5:13:08am

re: #247 Dopamine Fish

That’s how the crazy really got started, by like-minded right-wingers connecting and forming an impenetrable bubble that they retreated to whenever their worldview was challenged by outside sources.

Not at all. You don’t need twitter for impenetrable bubbles. Before twitter, people read fringe papers, listened to wacko radio, and were just as difficult to reach. We’re just more aware of them. (Going out and voting instead of staying home and despairing at the state of the world is new, though. Probably to do with the rise of megachurches.)

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Dopamine Fish  Apr 21, 2022 • 5:19:31am

re: #249 A hollow voice says Vaccinate the world!

Not at all. You don’t need twitter for impenetrable bubbles. Before twitter, people read fringe papers, listened to wacko radio, and were just as difficult to reach. We’re just more aware of them. (Going out and voting instead of staying home and despairing at the state of the world is new, though. Probably to do with the rise of megachurches.)

I don’t know that I agree, though. It used to be a lot harder to get into those kinds of things; you used to have to know people, or go find people, put yourself out there and be at risk of being shamed for your crazy beliefs. Now, you can find whatever you like online, anonymously, and no one has to know or care who you are. You can dig yourself into a doomsday prepper foxhole without any actual effort or risk. As for the rest, I hold that pineapple can be good on pizza.

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darthstar  Apr 21, 2022 • 5:20:54am

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 21, 2022 • 5:24:49am

We’re bands of apes, evolved to forage and hunt for food. Replying to tweets is sort of like banging rocks together to make noise.

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William Lewis  Apr 21, 2022 • 5:33:36am

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2022 • 5:48:27am

re: #247 Dopamine Fish

Which is why I do not rely on social media for news on anything beyond what family and friends are up to these days.

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2022 • 5:48:41am
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jeffreyw  Apr 21, 2022 • 6:16:20am

Good morning!

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Dopamine Fish  Apr 21, 2022 • 6:17:54am

re: #257 jeffreyw

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Mrs. Fish installed a bird feeder in the tree directly out in front of my office. Our first customers arrived this morning; a pair of chickadees, and some kind of sparrow, which we think may be the mate of the sparrow who is nesting beside our front door.

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Dangerman  Apr 21, 2022 • 6:19:25am

re: #229 Dangerman

a bit more of the imperfect analogy:

we all have political issues we are passionate about;
that affect us personally.
generally we want those things either protected (what we have and want) or fundamentally changed (to get what we want).

it is important to be engaged;
to understand the system and the (two) food choices we face;
and then to act - to make a decision.

that’s how to participate.
your life depends on eating and choosing what is food.

and yet, it’s not all or nothing.

in that if you choose ‘wisely’ you won’t get what you want and you also won’t die.
we have to learn to live our individual lives and be, if not satisfied, at least tolerant of the crappy food; because we don’t run the kitchen.

so be informed - read the menu;
be aware - understand what poison is;
then participate - order from the menu.

Don’t think that choosing and still not being satisfied is the same as nothing at all.
Nothing at all is you starving, withering away, and dying.
No, you still have your daily life; it’s all there is.
Excel at your life without over-obsessing about the lousy food.

Sure, taking over the kitchen is a lofty goal; don’t let go of it.
Until we succeed, smile, breathe and go slowly forward.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 21, 2022 • 6:20:18am

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Youtube Video

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jeffreyw  Apr 21, 2022 • 6:24:55am

re: #258 Dopamine Fish

Bird feeders are fun watches.

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Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie  Apr 21, 2022 • 6:30:05am

Happy 96th birthday to HM Queen Elizabeth II, born this day in 1926.

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wrenchwench  Apr 21, 2022 • 6:32:22am

re: #262 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Happy 96th birthday to HM Queen Elizabeth II, born this day in 1926.

Today, she’s a very young 96. First day.

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Decatur Deb  Apr 21, 2022 • 6:32:48am

re: #261 jeffreyw

Bird feeders are fun watches.

Not for a while to come—feeders are discouraged as vectors for spreading avian flu through wild populations. Thanks, Biden.

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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 21, 2022 • 6:33:14am

I am glad they caught him.

A suspect was charged early Thursday with the brutal slaying of Queens mom Orsolya Gaal — with multiple sources telling The Post he was her handyman ex-lover.

David Bonola, 44, was taken into custody and charged with murder, criminal tampering and criminal possession of a weapon over the brutal weekend stabbing, the NYPD confirmed early Thursday.

Multiple sources told The Post that Bonola was the handyman thought to have also been Gaal’s lover — and that he gave a full confession after his arrest.

He was picked up thanks to a pair of blood-soaked boots left at Gaal’s stately Forest Hills home after she was stabbed nearly 60 times in the early hours Saturday, sources said.

Bonola, from Richmond Hill, has no prior arrests, according to cops.

Gaal, 51, went out to a show at Lincoln Center with friends on Friday evening — and then hung out at a bar in her neighborhood, seemingly as if expecting to meet someone who never showed, sources said.

nypost.com

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Decatur Deb  Apr 21, 2022 • 6:33:22am

re: #262 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Happy 96th birthday to HM Queen Elizabeth II, born this day in 1926.

Irish republican regards to Citizen Windsor.

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Mattand  Apr 21, 2022 • 6:34:43am

re: #97 b.d

Sorry to elicit so many negative reactions to my posts. I am seeing us headed off a cliff if we don’t get our stuff together and we’ll deserve it..

If this is not a place to voice concerns then I’ll find another outlet.

Oh, for fuck’s sake…

I totally get your frustration. I honestly do. You’re not wrong for expressing what you’ve been expressing. Unfortunately, not everyone is agreeing with you and are pushing back.

Jesus Christ, I’ve had some members tell me in no uncertain terms how wrong they think I am about Garland. I disagree, massively, but it’s not a reason to flounce.

I got my ass handed to me a few years ago by mostly everyone here because a long timer I didn’t recognize creates a page featuring shit from American Spectator. Literally the kind of thing that Charles told Dark Falcon to knock off, and I got down dinged into oblivion for criticizing this person for the same action.

It sucked but it happens. Apologies if I missed it, but no one so far has told you need to leave.

re: #73 b.d

Nobody is doing sh*t. If the democrats aren’t worthy of my vote then I won’t vote. Sorry. Enough.

This kind of bullshit is how we wound up with Trump the first time. My 30-something neighbor across the street is just as fed up as with Republicans like everyone else here, but he fucking sat out the NJ gubernatorial race last year because he didn’t think it was important.

We almost wound up with a MAGAt governor here because of people like him. His vote mattered and he fell down on the job.

I don’t know what to tell you. I’m really, really worried about November and more needs to be done. That said, things like preventing women from being imprisoned for abortion are reasons enough for me to vote Dem and not give up. Your milage may vary.

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Dangerman  Apr 21, 2022 • 6:34:57am

re: #260 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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i listened, but 18 minutes to say ‘as far as the science is concerned it makes sense for me to wear a mask’

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Decatur Deb  Apr 21, 2022 • 6:35:28am

re: #265 Shropshire Slasher

I am glad they caught him.

nypost.com

A suspect was charged early Thursday with the brutal slaying of Queens mom Orsolya Gaal — with multiple sources telling The Post he was her handyman ex-lover.

Porn Noir.

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Dangerman  Apr 21, 2022 • 6:35:38am

re: #264 Decatur Deb

Not for a while to come—feeders are discouraged as vectors for spreading avian flu through wild populations. Thanks, Biden.

our birds are masked

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Decatur Deb  Apr 21, 2022 • 6:37:28am

re: #270 Dangerman

our birds are masked

Those are raccoons raiding your feeder.

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darthstar  Apr 21, 2022 • 6:48:01am

It’s good to see Putin slouching in a chair and gripping a desk for stability…watch with sound off…

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Dangerman  Apr 21, 2022 • 6:49:15am

re: #73 b.d

…
Nobody is doing sh*t. If the democrats aren’t worthy of my vote then I won’t vote. Sorry. Enough.

i think my analogy is close to effective reality

we must eat lest we do not starve and die.

menu option 1 - the lousy food
menu option 2 - the poison
there is no other option on the menu

choose neither / don’t eat and you are still poisoned.
you may die faster than option 2, maybe slower.
in any case you will still die long before a diet of option 1.

sure, you can tweak the metaphor and make it say something slightly different.
I see it this way.

I always vote D
I lament that desantis is governor, that TFG was president
When D’s win, i lament that i don’t always get what i want
I never lament that enough Rs arent in charge.

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darthstar  Apr 21, 2022 • 6:49:43am

re: #272 darthstar

It’s good to see Putin slouching in a chair and gripping a desk for stability…watch with sound off…

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Dangerman  Apr 21, 2022 • 6:50:30am

re: #271 Decatur Deb

Those are raccoons raiding your feeder.

shrikes

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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 21, 2022 • 6:50:38am

re: #272 darthstar

He looks incredibly uncomfortable, good.
I see him holding the trigger to the pistol he has pointing at his buddy.

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darthstar  Apr 21, 2022 • 6:56:36am
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No Malarkey!  Apr 21, 2022 • 6:58:29am

re: #263 wrenchwench

Today, she’s a very young 96. First day.

According to Tankies, she has a legitimate argument to invade much of the planet in order to reincorporate it into the British Empire.

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Dangerman  Apr 21, 2022 • 6:58:33am

re: #277 darthstar

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wrenchwench  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:00:01am

re: #278 No Malarkey!

According to Tankies, she has a legitimate argument to invade much of the planet in order to reincorporate it into the British Empire.

That’ll put a spring in her step.

/

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Dopamine Fish  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:01:37am

re: #262 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Happy 96th birthday to HM Queen Elizabeth II, born this day in 1926.

Long live the Queen.

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Dangerman  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:02:07am

“In the days after the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol building, the two top Republicans in Congress, Rep. Kevin McCarthy and Sen. Mitch McConnell, told associates they believed President Trump was responsible for inciting the deadly riot and vowed to drive him from politics,” the New York Times reports.

McCarthy went so far as to say he would push Mr. Trump to resign immediately: “I’ve had it with this guy.”

Said McConnell to top advisers: “The Democrats are going to take care of the son of a bitch for us.”

“But within weeks both men backed off an all-out fight with Mr. Trump because they feared retribution from him and his political movement. CAVED BECAUSE THEY ARE COWARDS WHO STAND FOR NOTHING BUT HOLDING ONTO THEIR OWN POWER. Their drive to act faded fast as it became clear it would mean difficult votes that would put them at odds with most of their colleagues.”

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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:02:22am

re: #280 wrenchwench

That’ll put a spring in her step.

/

She all by herself certainly could make a better go of it than the ruskies!

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wrenchwench  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:09:01am

Yesterday’s 7-3 shift makes today’s 8-2 look like a vacation.

Last Monday, I was called in early so the early dishwasher could go home sick. Turns out she has COVID. She’s supposed to be my replacement today. I think not. She’s the one who trained me. I’ve told co-workers that she’s the one who really runs the restaurant. She continued wearing a mask after the mandate was dropped, but was a little more relaxed about it, saying she kept it on in sympathy with her kids who had to keep wearing them at their school.

Time to go get ready for ‘vacation’.

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William Lewis  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:10:31am

re: #262 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Happy 96th birthday to HM Queen Elizabeth II, born this day in 1926.

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lawhawk  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:10:46am
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Belafon  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:11:47am
The New York Times has a great story on the massive logistical effort to move weapons to Ukraine. One of the big takeaways: nations are flooding gear into Ukraine, but few want to actually talk about it: “[N]ations are trying not to advertise to Moscow exactly what is being provided. France says it has supplied 100 million euros of military equipment to Ukraine, without specifying what it has sent. Some countries have no desire to goad the Russian bear.” There’s also this sentence, which is either the scoop of the week, or an embarrassing journalistic error:

The United States has also agreed to provide some 155-millimeter howitzers, along with 40,000 matching rounds, while trying to buy Soviet-standard ammunition from countries that use it, including nations outside of Europe, like Afghanistan and even India, a longstanding buyer of Russian arms.

The U.S. is trying to buy weapons from the Taliban? Did India, one of the few nations still happy and eager to do business with Russia, actually get approached to sell arms headed to Ukraine? Did they say “yes”? In any case, 30 countries are assisting Ukraine in its war effort, which is 30 more than are assisting Russia, all coordinated by the United States. No one does logistics like the United States.

dailykos.com

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lizardofid  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:12:11am

re: #283 Shropshire Slasher

She all by herself certainly could make a better go of it than the ruskies!

I expect she would at least not run out of fuel.

Oh, good morning!

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:16:24am

re: #203 wrenchwench

It just turned into tomorrow. Or, as some people call it, yesterday.

I felt lucky to get it in 5.

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A friend got it in 6. It was 4 for me.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:16:32am

Afternoon here, but the internet was sslloow earlier.

Testing, testing…

Getting colder as we move north, no more shorts to be seen.

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:18:49am

re: #277 darthstar

It’s Fox, they’re trying to rehabilitate Rudy.

My wife was telling me that they edited the whole thing so that you see Ken walk out, but they cut things so that you couldn’t see Robin leave.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:20:47am

re: #291 Belafon

It’s Fox, they’re trying to rehabilitate Rudy.

My wife was telling me that they edited the whole thing so that you see Ken walk out, but they cut things so that you couldn’t see Robin leave.

I think Fox Entertainment is owned by Disney now.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:21:32am

re: #208 No Malarkey!

It’s the Gish Gallop of scandals. You can’t focus on one because a dozen new ones rear their ugly head. Ginni Thomas!! Mike Lee!! Trump’s praise of Putin!! The GOP Senators not supporting Ukraine!! The Insurrection Act!! Fake electors!! etc.

It’s easy for the GOP — they have only 3 fake scandals to focus on.

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:24:29am

re: #292 No Malarkey!

I think Fox Entertainment is owned by Disney now.

Disney just bought the rights to some of the movie stuff. The channels are still owned by Fox.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:26:42am

re: #294 Belafon

Disney just bought the rights to some of the movie stuff. The channels are still owned by Fox.

I did not know that, thanks.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:27:35am

re: #293 Hecuba’s daughter

It’s the Gish Gallop of scandals. You can’t focus on one because a dozen new ones rear their ugly head. Ginni Thomas!! Mike Lee!! Trump’s praise of Putin!! The GOP Senators not supporting Ukraine!! The Insurrection Act!! Fake electors!! etc.

This is the new GOP playbook. An avalanche of scandals and corrupt bullshit that overwhelms the system to the point where nothing stays in the headlines that long and none of the perpetrators can be held accountable for their actions.

Sadly, it seems to be working.

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Dopamine Fish  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:29:29am

Oh, fucking hell. Now that they’ve won the War On Abortion, the War On Libraries, and are winning the War On Trans People, next up is the War On Contraceptives:

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:30:14am

re: #297 Dopamine Fish

It was always about sex. Has always been for that crowd.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:30:40am

re: #296 Eclectic Cyborg

This is the new GOP playbook. An avalanche of scandals and corrupt bullshit that overwhelms the system to the point where nothing stays in the headlines that long and none of the perpetrators can be held accountable for their actions.

Sadly, it seems to be working.

Yep, in order to appear “objective” the NYT has to balance its coverage of real GOP scandals with equal coverage of fake Democratic “scandals.” That’s how Hillary’s emails became the #1 issue of the 2016 election.

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Dopamine Fish  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:30:43am

re: #298 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

It was always about sex. Has always been for that crowd.

Yes, I know. It all boils down to, they want people to be punished for enjoying sex. It’s supposed to be a JOB, damn it, not FUN.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:32:02am

re: #297 Dopamine Fish

Oh, fucking hell. Now that they’ve won the War On Abortion, the War On Libraries, and are winning the War On Trans People, next up is the War On Contraceptives:

Some red state will make most birth control illegal on the false grounds that they cause abortions.

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Dopamine Fish  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:32:58am

What’s funny to me is, evangelicals used to pride themselves on, “We’re not like those barbaric Catholics, we encourage people to enjoy sex as long as they’re having it our way.” Now, they’ve done a complete 180 and are taking the Catholic “sex is for PROCREATING, dammit” position.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:33:37am

re: #272 darthstar

Is that the guy who had a massive heart attack?

Or am I confused

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:33:50am

re: #297 Dopamine Fish

Oh, fucking hell. Now that they’ve won the War On Abortion, the War On Libraries, and are winning the War On Trans People, next up is the War On Contraceptives:

Therefore, all husbands must divorce their wives and marry younger women after menopause.

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Dopamine Fish  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:35:31am

re: #304 Belafon

Therefore, all husbands must divorce their wives and marry younger women after menopause.

Close, but not quite. You leave the wife at home, and screw the secretary or the kids’ sitter or the hot young woman three houses down whom you see in their above-ground pool in the afternoons.

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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:35:51am

re: #303 HRH Stanley Sea

Is that the guy who had a massive heart attack?

Or am I confused

I thought Defence Minister Shoigu was dead, but I didn’t buy the playbill so I don’t know the cast of characters.

dailymail.co.uk

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:39:21am

re: #192 Jack Burton in Mactified Forshion

He does realize that Clownstick was in charge for the worst parts of it right?

Doesn’t matter to them since they consider Trump and Biden equally bad/evil. We know better.

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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:48:19am

I think that would be a badge of honor.

Mike Tyson seemed to lose his cool on a plane on Wednesday night … repeatedly punching a man in the face after the guy had apparently annoyed him.

TMZ Sports has learned … the incident all went down at around 10:30 PM PT as Tyson was slated to fly out of San Francisco International Airport to Florida.

A witness on the plane says as he and his friend were boarding Tyson’s flight … the boxing legend was initially cool with them and the other passengers.

tmz.com

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sizzzzlerz  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:49:46am

Nice one today

Wordle 306 3/6

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:49:49am

Sex can be either for fun or for procreation, as decided by the people participating in the act.

Also, this stupid person Samantha is taking an extremely rigid stance which ignores married couples who do not want kids or married couples who CANNOT have kids (either due to infertility or other reasons).

No offense to parents, but I’ve never understood why certain segments of society assign so much value to a person simply because that person has children.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:51:10am

re: #308 Shropshire Slasher

I think that would be a badge of honor.

tmz.com

Sources close to Mike claim the man was extremely intoxicated … and wouldn’t stop provoking the boxer in his seat.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:51:36am

re: #310 Eclectic Cyborg

Sex can be either for fun or for procreation, as decided by the people participating in the act.

Also, this stupid person Samantha is taking an extremely rigid stance which ignores married couples who do not want kids or married couples who CANNOT have kids (either due to infertility or other reasons).

No offense to parents, but I’ve never understood why certain segments of society assign so much value to a person simply because that person has children.

They often cite the Bible: “Be fruitful and multiply”

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sizzzzlerz  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:52:14am

re: #12 No Malarkey!

Based on the photos of that fat fuck, “taking care of” must imply the consumption of massive amounts of fast food.

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Dopamine Fish  Apr 21, 2022 • 7:52:44am

re: #310 Eclectic Cyborg

No offense to parents, but I’ve never understood why certain segments of society assign so much value to a person simply because that person has children.

In the Bible there is a verse that states, “Blessed is the man with many children, for his quiver is full.” (Or something like that; I don’t remember the exact phrasing.) This has given rise to the “quiver full” movement, which means that a woman should actively try to have as many children as she possibly can - including risky pregnancies that may kill her - or she isn’t being a good Christian. The only woman I ever wanted to physically harm in my life was one such woman, who sneered down her nose at my mom when she learned that my mom had her tubes tied after me because of life-threatening complications.

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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 21, 2022 • 8:00:47am

Slash from G-N-R look-alike in NYC slaying

dailymail.co.uk

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lawhawk  Apr 21, 2022 • 8:05:27am

So, watched The Batman on HBO Max last night with the Mrs.

I’m putting my thoughts behind the veil… because, spoilers.

Click to Reveal

So, overall thought it very well done. Pattinson was a brooding almost emo take on the Batman character. Zoe Kravitz did great as Catwoman; other characters were well done and created a good take on Gotham’s underground.

Interesting how they looped back to Wayne family history as setting up so much crime in action (funding crime waves via a good works renewal effort across Gotham). Riddler was unhinged in a good way, and his motivations.

There was one fight scene in particular that I thought looked amazing - the shootout in the hallway in the dark, and Batman gets silhouetted by all the gunfire. It’s a striking set-piece and mirrors how we’d see comic book panel shots.

The fight on the scaffolding was also quite well done and Jim Gordon (Jeffrey Wright is always fantastic) threaded the needle on supporting Batman and doing the right thing for law and justice.

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Shropshire Slasher  Apr 21, 2022 • 8:07:28am

re: #316 lawhawk

So, watched The Batman on HBO Max last night with the Mrs.

I’m putting my thoughts behind the veil… because, spoilers.

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All I could see and hear in that movie.

Youtube Video

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Dopamine Fish  Apr 21, 2022 • 8:12:26am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 21, 2022 • 8:17:21am

re: #318 Dopamine Fish

It was always going to be a fucking stupid explanation. Always.

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Jay C  Apr 21, 2022 • 8:17:55am

re: #288 lizardofid

I expect she would at least not run out of fuel.

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Heh.
And I notice that even though she was a Princess, she still had to display the “L” plate on her lorry…
(I wonder if she ever had to take a driving test to get her license?)

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2022 • 8:18:49am

re: #316 lawhawk

Click to Reveal

My son also liked that this Batman was involved in the investigation. It gave him more of the detective side compared to other Batman versions.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Apr 21, 2022 • 8:19:27am

re: #269 Decatur Deb

Porn Noir.

A NY Post specialty.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 21, 2022 • 8:19:49am

re: #318 Dopamine Fish

So now we know what “critical race theory” is: making any positive comment about any black people at all.

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lawhawk  Apr 21, 2022 • 8:20:16am

Mike Tyson assaults passenger on board plane before it departs.

Someone should be facing federal assault charges for this…

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Dopamine Fish  Apr 21, 2022 • 8:21:47am

re: #319 Eclectic Cyborg

re: #323 No Malarkey!

In the comments on the Fark article where I found this Twitter thread, I found this:

All the approved text books come from the same company in Texas, Accelerated Learning, which is owned by the Carlyle Group whose CEO until 2020 was Glenn Younkin, now the Republican governor of Virginia.

So presumably Carlyle is hella connected to the GOP.

As always, its about $$$. The grift. Always the grift.

Color me surprised.

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Ming5000  Apr 21, 2022 • 8:22:55am

I knew I remembered the Ken Jeong thing from earlier in the year. I guess the episode is airing now.

The episode was taped in January, and Deadline reported in February that Giuliani made an appearance that caused Jeong to leave the stage.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 21, 2022 • 8:23:55am

Well I burned through three wrong guesses after getting the last three letters. Now I’m on my last guess. This Wordle sucks.

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The Pie Overlord!  Apr 21, 2022 • 8:25:07am

Wordle 306 6/6

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⬜⬜🟩🟩🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

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No Malarkey!  Apr 21, 2022 • 8:26:41am
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No Malarkey!  Apr 21, 2022 • 8:29:30am

Homophobic hysteria

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Eventual Carrion  Apr 21, 2022 • 8:30:11am

re: #239 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Jeez…6/6. Barely made it.

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4/6, but I stared at it quite a while before I tried my 4th guess.

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 21, 2022 • 8:30:31am

“Never Again” means “Well, Again!”

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 21, 2022 • 8:32:54am

re: #330 No Malarkey!

Homophobic hysteria

Same people would be massively rallying to the teacher’s defense if she’d put a Bible on her desk and put up John 3:16 stickers.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 21, 2022 • 8:33:37am
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Jay C  Apr 21, 2022 • 8:34:51am

re: #318 Dopamine Fish

OK, how about this for a results-oriented.math question?

12. In an election in Florida, Gov. DeSantis gets 3,300,000 votes, and his Democratic opponent receives 3,400,000. Republican officials suppress and fail to report 150,000 Democratic votes. What is the published result?

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2022 • 8:39:13am

re: #332 Sherlock Hound

“Never Again” means “Well, Again!”

I’ve noticed no one has mentioned Merkel’s name with respect to this, but this was under her watch.

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lawhawk  Apr 21, 2022 • 8:41:53am

re: #329 No Malarkey!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Apr 21, 2022 • 8:44:00am

re: #203 wrenchwench

It just turned into tomorrow. Or, as some people call it, yesterday.

I felt lucky to get it in 5.

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took me 4

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Citizen K  Apr 21, 2022 • 8:44:34am

re: #336 Belafon

I’ve noticed no one has mentioned Merkel’s name with respect to this, but this was under her watch.

She stepped down last September, current chancellor of Germany is Olaf Scholz and I’m pretty sure I’ve seen his name being held to blame quite a bit when it comes to Germany’s waffling.

340
lawhawk  Apr 21, 2022 • 8:45:05am

Grab some popcorn as Marjorie 3 names takes the stand tomorrow:

341
Sherlock Hound  Apr 21, 2022 • 8:45:13am

re: #336 Belafon

I’ve noticed no one has mentioned Merkel’s name with respect to this, but this was under her watch.

This was well covered in one Twitter thread I posted yesterday. Merkel is culpable.

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2022 • 8:47:45am

re: #339 Citizen K

She stepped down last September, current chancellor of Germany is Olaf Scholz and I’m pretty sure I’ve seen his name being held to blame quite a bit when it comes to Germany’s waffling.

True, but the problem is that the German economy was tied to Russia’s gas and their ability to respond to something like this was not planned for. I would have to go dig, but Scholz had to admit that Germany can’t respond.

343
Belafon  Apr 21, 2022 • 8:48:07am

re: #341 Sherlock Hound

This was well covered in one Twitter thread I posted yesterday. Merkel is culpable.

Thanks. I missed it.

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Belafon  Apr 21, 2022 • 8:50:42am

re: #336 Belafon

I’ve noticed no one has mentioned Merkel’s name with respect to this, but this was under her watch.

As I reread this, I should have written: I’ve noticed no one has mentioned Merkel’s name with respect to this, but Germany’s ability to respond to this is almost entirely determined by decisions made during her time chancellor.

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Sherlock Hound  Apr 21, 2022 • 8:56:32am

re: #344 Belafon

As I reread this, I should have written: I’ve noticed no one has mentioned Merkel’s name with respect to this, but Germany’s ability to respond to this is almost entirely determined by decisions made during her time chancellor.

Reviewing her energy policy, I was very disturbed to learn that the country is still burning lignite for power. Massachusetts closed its last (of two) coal plants in what feels like forever ago. Germany fucked up closing its nuke plants.

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Citizen K  Apr 21, 2022 • 8:57:34am

re: #344 Belafon

As I reread this, I should have written: I’ve noticed no one has mentioned Merkel’s name with respect to this, but Germany’s ability to respond to this is almost entirely determined by decisions made during her time chancellor.

Fair enough then.

347
Hecuba's daughter  Apr 21, 2022 • 9:04:00am

re: #306 Shropshire Slasher

I thought Defence Minister Shoigu was dead, but I didn’t buy the playbill so I don’t know the cast of characters.

dailymail.co.uk

Wikipedia has Shoigu as still alive. There were unsubstantiated rumors or perhaps they were just jokes about his condition. We don’t have anything official about his health status.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Apr 21, 2022 • 9:08:38am

re: #347 Hecuba’s daughter

Wikipedia has Shoigu as still alive. There were unsubstantiated rumors or perhaps they were just jokes about his condition. We don’t have anything official about his health status.

Is Shoigu the guy in the new Putin video?

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DodgerFan1988  Apr 21, 2022 • 9:11:12am
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No Malarkey!  Apr 21, 2022 • 9:12:32am
351
Crush White Nationalism  Apr 21, 2022 • 9:16:48am

re: #349 DodgerFan1988

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lawhawk  Apr 21, 2022 • 9:17:01am

re: #350 No Malarkey!

Having the material is one thing - having trained crews to fight with those tanks is another.

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Hecuba's daughter  Apr 21, 2022 • 9:17:38am

re: #348 HRH Stanley Sea

Is Shoigu the guy in the new Putin video?

Certainly looks like him.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 21, 2022 • 9:19:26am

re: #352 lawhawk

Having the material is one thing - having trained crews to fight with those tanks is another.

I wonder how long it takes Ukraine to train new tank crews? They can probably shorten the training because Russia is likely running short of veteran tank crews as well.

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Jay C  Apr 21, 2022 • 9:20:10am

re: #351 Punish Domestic Terrorists

Yeah, the credit to “Mike Lindell TV” ought to be a dead giveaway as to how much credibility it ought to get….

But then, “Fuck You, Mike Flynn!” Is an appropriate rejoinder in just about any circumstances…

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Citizen K  Apr 21, 2022 • 9:20:15am

re: #352 lawhawk

Having the material is one thing - having trained crews to fight with those tanks is another.

Even if they can’t be trained on the tanks, denial of material support for the Russians is still a pretty significant advantage

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darthstar  Apr 21, 2022 • 9:21:51am

re: #324 lawhawk

Mike Tyson assaults passenger on board plane before it departs.

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Someone should be facing federal assault charges for this…

Tyson belongs in jail. The fan belongs on a Greyhound Bus.

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Crush White Nationalism  Apr 21, 2022 • 9:21:53am

re: #355 Jay C

Yeah, the credit to “Mike Lindell TV” ought to be a dead giveaway as to how much credibility it ought to get….

But then, “Fuck You, Mike Flynn!” Is an appropriate rejoinder in just about any circumstances…

We used to put people like Mike in locked inpatient facilities. Now they have Internet TV shows.

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No Malarkey!  Apr 21, 2022 • 9:25:32am

re: #356 Citizen K

Even if they can’t be trained on the tanks, denial of material support for the Russians is still a pretty significant advantage

Ukraine has been at war for eight years, so they probably have a lot of reservists who can quickly be brought back up to speed to man those tanks.

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Crush White Nationalism  Apr 21, 2022 • 9:27:17am

When I brushed against a deck on my cat tree, it turned freely.
It’s not stripped, and seems like the cats just unscrewed it. I wish I’d seen that.

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Dangerman  Apr 21, 2022 • 9:31:41am

re: #360 Punish Domestic Terrorists

When I brushed against a deck on my cat tree, it turned freely.
It’s not stripped, and seems like the cats just unscrewed it. I wish I’d seen that.

check the liquor bottles

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darthstar  Apr 21, 2022 • 9:31:50am
363
Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 21, 2022 • 9:32:29am

Of course this would be the excuse O’Reilly uses:

vanityfair.com

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Crush White Nationalism  Apr 21, 2022 • 9:33:15am

re: #361 Dangerman

check the liquor bottles

There are no liquor bottles here. I haven’t had a drop of booze since the pandemic started. I have had a lot of weed.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 21, 2022 • 9:34:14am

re: #360 Punish Domestic Terrorists

When I brushed against a deck on my cat tree, it turned freely.
It’s not stripped, and seems like the cats just unscrewed it. I wish I’d seen that.

My cat tree is a pretty solid oval shape with four shelves. Not cheap to get, but I like the look so much better than the plywood and carpet monstrosities.

In the current layout it occupies half the window space in the office/computer room. There is a towel on one of the shelves and Floof Cat does like lying on that towel to nap. (Photo above is older, but does show the rough shape of the tree.)

I love the idea of wall-mounted cat shelf patterns. But I am renting the place and don’t want to start doing moly-bolts or whatever would be required to get them securely anchored.* Plus given Floof Cat’s known occasional attacks of non-grace I would live in fear of 16lbs of cat suddenly falling on me as I sat on the couch. I get oof-ed when she jumps onto me from the ground. I don’t want to know how much kinetic energy she’d build up by being 5+’ off the ground.

* - Current lease actually bans doing stuff like moly-bolts and large fasteners. Plus the stick-on ones as well.

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sagehen  Apr 21, 2022 • 9:42:00am

re: #308 Shropshire Slasher

I think that would be a badge of honor.

tmz.com

For a registered, licensed boxer, his hands are legally considered a deadly weapon.

When it comes to sentencing, the judge is going to treat Tyson punching a guy the way he’d treat you or I swinging a baseball bat at the guy’s head.

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Renaissance_Man  Apr 21, 2022 • 9:43:14am

re: #362 darthstar

On FOX, prominent media hosts and anchors talk gleefully about the destruction of major American cities daily.

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lawhawk  Apr 21, 2022 • 9:44:25am

re: #362 darthstar

The Russians have had ability to end life on the planet for decades with rockets and missiles they have stockpiled by the thousands. This newest missile doesn’t change that calculus one bit. The Russians may think that FOBS or delivering missiles via the South Pole somehow changes this in their favor, or that it gives the US less time to respond because the boost phase is shorter with this new rocket design, or that US ABM systems can’t handle this kind of warhead and countermeasures they deploy.

They seem to also ignore that the US still adheres to MAD - and if the Russians launch strikes against the US, then the US will launch our missiles against Russia, and we can certainly end life there just as completely as they can do to the US. We have ballistic missile subs whose sole purpose is to fire off the salvo that ends Russia. We have land based rockets as well, to say nothing of air launched cruise missiles for the bespoke killing effort.

It’s a lot of bluster to cover up the fact that Russia has failed to overrun Ukraine and is mired in a stalemate from which they have no solution other than change the goalposts on an almost daily basis.

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Crush White Nationalism  Apr 21, 2022 • 9:46:16am

re: #368 lawhawk

The Russians have had ability to end life on the planet for decades with rockets and missiles they have stockpiled by the thousands. This newest missile doesn’t change that calculus one bit. The Russians may think that FOBS or delivering missiles via the South Pole somehow changes this in their favor, or that it gives the US less time to respond because the boost phase is shorter with this new rocket design, or that US ABM systems can’t handle this kind of warhead and countermeasures they deploy.

They seem to also ignore that the US still adheres to MAD - and if the Russians launch strikes against the US, then the US will launch our missiles against Russia, and we can certainly end life there just as completely as they can do to the US. We have ballistic missile subs whose sole purpose is to fire off the salvo that ends Russia. We have land based rockets as well, to say nothing of air launched cruise missiles for the bespoke killing effort.

It’s a lot of bluster to cover up the fact that Russia has failed to overrun Ukraine and is mired in a stalemate from which they have no solution other than change the goalposts on an almost daily basis.

I’d be a lot less concerned if not for Putin’s delusions and poor health.

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Crush White Nationalism  Apr 21, 2022 • 9:51:21am
The suspect in the case has been dead since 2003, said Lynsey Mukomel, a spokeswoman for the attorney general. No charges will be filed in the case, she said.

“While our efforts cannot bring Eric back, nor render justice in the eyes of the law, we do hope the family is vindicated by our department’s confirmation that Eric was indeed the victim of a homicide,” Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a statement.

McGinnis family attorney Leonard Mungo questioned why the attorney general’s office did not release the name of the suspect.

“While we appreciate the attorney general’s office reopening the case, they also fell far short as to naming that suspect. We believe it is inadequate and disrespectful to protect the name of a murderer. We request a disclosure immediately for the sake of transparency,” Mungo said in a statement.

Black Teen’s “Accidental Drowning” in 1991 Now Ruled a Homicide (The Root)

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 21, 2022 • 9:52:24am
372
Dr Lizardo  Apr 21, 2022 • 9:59:21am

Quite an unusual coincidence:

One could almost call it “a series of unfortunate events” (with apologies to Lemony Snicket).

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Crush White Nationalism  Apr 21, 2022 • 10:03:13am

Youtube Video

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BeenHereAwhile  Apr 21, 2022 • 10:04:49am

re: #119 mmmirele

Well, obviously, the bk could go throgh the bankruptcy courts, which means that the plaintiffs are now creditors and have to wait until the trustee sells and then pays the creditors. On the other hand, if, as has been alleged, Jones might end up in trouble with the bk court if he engages in bankruptcy fraud in listing out his assets. It’s rumored Jones has been moving assets to relatives and friends to avoid having to disclose them in the bankruptcy. I’m pretty sure the Sandy Hook families’ attorneys have engaged a bankruptcy specialist to figure out their next steps.

If the bankruptcy proceeds, creditor recovery will depend on how aggressively the bankruptcy trustee goes after Info Wars/Jones’s “protected assets.” The trustee receives tiered compensation for value of assets recovered from the debtor.

I bet the creditor’s committee meetings will be fun.

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Renaissance_Man  Apr 21, 2022 • 10:05:17am

re: #371 Eclectic Cyborg

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An issue I have with the repeated idea that Democrats are failing at messaging is there is never any suggestion as to what to do better. ‘Hammer on a message’, ‘have a message that resonates’, and so forth. These aren’t suggestions, these are concepts.

The US media decides what narrative gets presented and what messages are repeated. CNN can run 20 stories on inflation and rising gas prices. They can bring on 20 Republicans to say it’s Biden’s fault. They can bring on 1 Democrat to say it’s a worldwide phenomenon and that things aren’t really as bad, but the next day there’ll be another 20 stories about the same, repeating only the talking points Republicans want them to repeat.

Pointing to poll numbers and saying that this is evidence that Democrats are messaging badly is drawing a causal link where there really isn’t one.

376
Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 21, 2022 • 10:06:27am

re: #372 Dr Lizardo

One could almost call it “a series of unfortunate events” (with apologies to Lemony Snicket).

Reichstag fires?

377
danarchy  Apr 21, 2022 • 10:06:32am

re: #366 sagehen

For a registered, licensed boxer, his hands are legally considered a deadly weapon.

When it comes to sentencing, the judge is going to treat Tyson punching a guy the way he’d treat you or I swinging a baseball bat at the guy’s head.

I have no clue if Tyson still has a license, but wasn’t his last sanctioned fight sometime in the early 2000’s? Isn’t he well on his way to 60

378
Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 21, 2022 • 10:07:31am

re: #375 Renaissance_Man

Democrats could be more forceful in their public statements and social media posts in calling out Republican shenanigans for what they are.

379
lawhawk  Apr 21, 2022 • 10:08:38am
380
Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 21, 2022 • 10:09:18am

re: #377 danarchy

I have no clue if Tyson still has a license, but wasn’t his last sanctioned fight sometime in the early 2000’s? Isn’t he well on his way to 60

Tyson is 55 years old. He fought Roy Jones Jr. in an exhibition bout in 2020. Not sure if that would have required a license or not.

381
Dr Lizardo  Apr 21, 2022 • 10:11:24am

re: #376 Eclectic Cyborg

Reichstag fires?

Not likely, because by now Russian media would be screaming that it was “sabotage” (or more likely, “wreckers” to use an old Stalinist turn of phrase). Right now, the story is “faulty wiring”, at least on the Institute fire. As for the chemical plant, well….yeah, accidents do in fact happen.

However, if more places like that start burning down or blowing up, then it raises the possibility of some kind of genuine sabotage.

382
sagehen  Apr 21, 2022 • 10:13:03am

re: #372 Dr Lizardo

Quite an unusual coincidence:

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One could almost call it “a series of unfortunate events” (with apologies to Lemony Snicket).

Or a terrible, horrible, no-good very bad day.

383
A Cranky One  Apr 21, 2022 • 10:13:56am

I can’t imagine the chain of thought that led to ‘hey, I’ll hassle a former boxing champion known to have impulse control issues ‘.

I mean, WTF?

384
Crush White Nationalism  Apr 21, 2022 • 10:19:28am

re: #379 lawhawk

385
austin_blue  Apr 21, 2022 • 10:19:58am

re: #352 lawhawk

Having the material is one thing - having trained crews to fight with those tanks is another.

And the gauges and dials must be in Cyrillic. American tanks are useless to the Ukes. None of our tanks use nuts and bolts that work with their metric tools.

This was a big beef when American airlines started considering buying Airbus aircraft, so Airbus included full sets of Metric tools with every purchase. Its was still a dog fuck until American Techs learned to think twice before reaching for a socket wrench.

By the way, it’s good to be back home in South Austin. The weather was remarkably sanguine in Scotland and the Home Counties for April.

386
Dangerman  Apr 21, 2022 • 10:26:04am

“New analysis from the Peterson Center on Healthcare and Kaiser Family Foundation quantifies the effects of vaccination. Since June 2021, the point at which every American adult had access to coronavirus vaccines, they estimate that just over 234,000 unvaccinated Americans died who could have lived had they been immunized against the virus.”

“That’s nearly a quarter of the total death toll from the pandemic.”

387
aatharuv  Apr 21, 2022 • 10:26:49am

Interestingly enough, and not completely tied to the war, India decided to scrap a purchase of 48 Mi-17V military transport helicopters from Russia. Officially, it was scrapped in favor of domestic development, and has been in the works for a while. India has been trying to reduce its dependency on foreign military imports.

India Scraps Planned Purchase of 48 Russian Helicopters

Unofficially, India has been increasingly pissed off with the quality of Russian helicopters, even more so after Bipin Rawat, India’s Chief of Defence Staff (equivalent to Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff), was killled in a crash of one.

2021 Indian Air Force Mil Mi-17 crash

And here’s the kicker, Russia’s war makes India worried that it’ll be harder to maintain those helicopters in the future, especially since… most of the key engine parts were sourced from Ukrainian manufacturers!.

Which really makes me wonder even more as to the competence and/or sanity of Russian military planners.

388
Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 21, 2022 • 10:28:16am

re: #383 A Cranky One

I can’t imagine the chain of thought that led to ‘hey, I’ll hassle a former boxing champion known to have impulse control issues ‘.

I mean, WTF?

Reports stated the guy was intoxicated, so he likely wasn’t thinking straight and just being an annoying asshole.

389
FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 21, 2022 • 10:28:22am

re: #381 Dr Lizardo

Not likely, because by now Russian media would be screaming that it was “sabotage” (or more likely, “wreckers” to use an old Stalinist turn of phrase). Right now, the story is “faulty wiring”, at least on the Institute fire. As for the chemical plant, well….yeah, accidents do in fact happen.

However, if more places like that start burning down or blowing up, then it raises the possibility of some kind of genuine sabotage.

And Russia is getting caught on the horns of the dilemma of having poor safety and construction standards on top of poor maintenance (e.g. incompetence and corruption) by blaming faulty wires, etc. Or they can claim saboteurs or whatever and essentially be saying that that their intelligence services and internal security is ineffective.

390
FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Apr 21, 2022 • 10:28:50am

re: #383 A Cranky One

I can’t imagine the chain of thought that led to ‘hey, I’ll hassle a former boxing champion known to have impulse control issues ‘.

I mean, WTF?

The train of thought never left the station.

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Crush White Nationalism  Apr 21, 2022 • 10:30:48am

re: #387 aatharuv

Interestingly enough, and not completely tied to the war, India decided to scrap a purchase of 48 Mi-17V military transport helicopters from Russia. Officially, it was scrapped in favor of domestic development, and has been in the works for a while. India has been trying to reduce its dependency on foreign military imports.

India Scraps Planned Purchase of 48 Russian Helicopters

Unofficially, India has been increasingly pissed off with the quality of Russian helicopters, even more so after Bipin Rawat, India’s Chief of Defence Staff (equivalent to Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff), was killled in a crash of one.

2021 Indian Air Force Mil Mi-17 crash

And here’s the kicker, Russia’s war makes India worried that it’ll be harder to maintain those helicopters in the future, especially since… most of the key engine parts were sourced from Ukrainian manufacturers!.

Which really makes me wonder even more as to the competence and/or sanity of Russian military planners.

What planners? It’s an autocracy, and the mad leader wanted to kill his neighbors and take their territory. You can’t say no to an autocrat.

392
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Apr 21, 2022 • 10:32:07am

re: #386 Dangerman

“…just over 234,000 unvaccinated Americans died who could have lived had they been immunized against the virus.”

Just think how many lives could have been saved if they had allowed Ivermectin to be sold over the counter (and by the bucket)

/

393
Crush White Nationalism  Apr 21, 2022 • 10:32:26am
394
garzooma  Apr 21, 2022 • 10:33:58am

re: #375 Renaissance_Man

An issue I have with the repeated idea that Democrats are failing at messaging is there is never any suggestion as to what to do better. […]

Democrats could propose and schedule votes on legislation that address the concerns.

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Dangerman  Apr 21, 2022 • 10:34:20am
House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) “vehemently denied reporting from a forthcoming book describing his sharp comments directed at former President Trump in the aftermath of the Jan. 6 Capitol attack, calling it ‘totally false’ and accusing the co-authors of not asking for comment before the book was printed,” The Hill reports.

so…all true then.

396
Jay C  Apr 21, 2022 • 10:34:59am

did good today
Wordle 306 3/6

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⬜🟨🟩🟨⬜
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

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Dr Lizardo  Apr 21, 2022 • 10:36:46am

re: #389 FFL (GOP Delenda Est)

Russian “maintenance” is notoriously farcical. It’s the stuff of legend.

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jaunte  Apr 21, 2022 • 10:37:56am
399
JC1  Apr 21, 2022 • 10:38:38am

re: #386 Dangerman

Guessing mostly Trump supporters? Could be enough to change the outcome of close races in November.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Apr 21, 2022 • 10:41:06am

re: #398 jaunte

The Republicans have now banned words like racist gerrymandered from the debate, saying that it will hurt the feelings of whites

Fucking snowflakes.

/

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No Malarkey!  Apr 21, 2022 • 10:42:11am

Florida has approved the all-white racist gerrymander.

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jaunte  Apr 21, 2022 • 10:42:25am

re: #400 Eclectic Cyborg

Republicans shut down the Florida lege wi-fi to keep Democrats from communicating with each other.

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Crush White Nationalism  Apr 21, 2022 • 10:43:52am

re: #402 jaunte

Republicans shut down the Florida lege wi-fi to keep Democrats from communicating with each other.

They’re fighting fascism in fascist territory. They should have their own secure network.


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