The news that Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal is on the verge of signing a bill that will allow guns in bars, restaurants, schools, churches, and airports is simply chilling. Indeed, an Atlanta Journal-Constitution poll that found more than 70 percent of voters opposed such a measure, as well as the state’s police chiefs association, restaurant association, and Episcopal and Catholic churches, not to mention the federal Transportation Security Administration.
Fueled by The National Rifle Association that calls the bill “the most comprehensive gun” bill in recent state history, the enthusiasm for such an appalling idea among state legislators will run right over their own constituents’ concerns about going out to dinner and sitting next to a guy packing heat. Are parents going to take their children to McDonald’s and stand in line with a hungry NRA stooge with a Glock G22 stuck in his belt? And who wants to go down to the well tonight to drink his fill and see some lush slap his new semi-automatic gun on the bar?
Georgia is not alone in such legislation: the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence lists three states that already allow guns in churches, two on college campuses, eight in schools, and four considering allowing them in bars; South Carolina already does. One can only hope these laws are challenged in state and federal courts.
I am not about to debate the Second Amendment here but to equate carrying an unlicensed gun into a bar or restaurant with a basic American right is sheer idiocy. Alcohol and guns don’t mix well in bars, and what possible rationale is there to allow them into a restaurant? Well, here’s one possibility: under the rules of Stand Your Ground, if the guy at the next table flirts with your wife and you ask him to stop and he tells you to go screw yourself and you see he’s got a pistol in his belt, then you have a perfect right to pull out your own gun and blow the fucker way—all perfectly legal. By the way, the same goes for the other guy.
When Northern California liberals are said to be “up in arms,” it usually means they’re marching down San Francisco’s Market Street or rallying at Berkeley’s Sproul Plaza — not toting guns and actively defending their right to do so.
But Marlene Hoeber, president of the Northern California chapter of the Liberal Gun Club, wants the world to know that lefty politics and a love for guns and gun rights aren’t mutually exclusive.
“If the conversation about gun policy in the United States is limited to what the National Rifle Association has to say, the conversation is over because not enough people want to listen to that,” said Hoeber, 43, of Oakland. “Hell, I’m a gun person and I don’t want to listen to that.”
Just more evidence for the assertion that you don’t have to be conservative to own guns or to use them safely.
The Motor City Madman holds court before his adoring fans. The bad craziness begins at about the 6:00 mark.
I have obviously failed to galvanize and prod, if not shame enough Americans to be ever vigilant not to let a Chicago communist raised communist educated communist nurtured subhuman mongrel like the ACORN community organizer gangster Barack Hussein Obama to weasel his way into the top office of authority in the United States of America. I am heartbroken but I am not giving up. I think America will be America again when Barack Obama, [Attorney General] Eric Holder, Hillary Clinton, [Sen.] Dick Durbin, [former New York City Mayor] Michael Bloomberg and all of the liberal Democrats are in jail facing the just due punishment that their treasonous acts are clearly apparent.
So a lot of people would call that inflammatory speech. Well I would call it inflammatory speech when it’s your job to protect Americans and you look into the television camera and say what difference does it make that I failed in my job to provide security and we have four dead Americans. What difference does that make? Not to a chimpanzee or Hillary Clinton, I guess it doesn’t matter.
Hat Tip: Media Matters
Fox News host Martha MacCallum lashed out at Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein on Thursday because he supported gun control in the United States while wishing that Jews could have fought back with firearms during the Holocaust.
In an interview with radio host Howard Stern this week, Weinstein revealed that he was working on a film about the National Rifle Association (NRA) because he opposed guns.
“I don’t think we need guns in this country and I hate it, and I think that the NRA is a disaster area,” Weinstein said. “I’m gonna make a movie with Meryl Streep and we’re gonna take this issue head on.”
“They’re gonna wish they weren’t alive after I’m done with them.”
It was that line that got Fox News host Martha McCallum and radio host Mike Slater fired up on Thursday.
“What do you make of a guy who made ‘Kill Bill’ carrying the torch for anti-NRA?” MacCallum asked.
“Harvey and his friends have built their careers on making incredibly violent movies, and they have contributed to this desensitizing to violence in America,” Slater opined.
“Let me remind you and our viewers at home that the one thing that stopped [Newtown shooter] Adam Lanza from continuing the rampage in the school was when he saw a gun and a police officer in his line of sight,” MacCallum insisted, turning to liberal guest Jehmu Greene. “Just recently, we had another school shooting. We have them almost weekly, sometimes it feels like almost daily, and what ends them all is when — or in most cases — is when there is a gun introduced into the situation that scares that person into stopping what they are doing.”
“Any responsible gun owner knows that you don’t need an AR-15 to protect your home, you need it to kill a lot of people,” Greene pointed out. “Any responsible hunter knows that you barely get off a third shot at killing a deer, much less a thirtieth shot… The NRA using responsible gun owners to protect gun manufacturers from stopping common-sense gun laws, they do need to be wiped off.”
“Spoons don’t make people fat and pencils don’t misspell words,” Slater shot back. “We need to strike at the root of gun violence. You mentioned, Martha, whether it’s mental illness or breakdown of society, breakdown of the family, breakdown of religious values. Whatever that is.”
In addition to Klayman, many of our old “friends” will be there, including Pamela Geller who Connected the NSA-Sekrit Muslim Dots, Anti-Muslim Demagogue Robert Spencer who mainstream Christians want nothing to do with, and my “totally not racist or homophobic” punching bag Bradlee Dean. Klayman let me give you some advice, as if you will listen, you and your marry band of wingnuts will not be able to bring down Obama, cancel this gathering of crazies while you still have the chance. You’re only going to make reasonable people see you and your supporters for what you really are.
On Sept. 18, 2013, a “citizens grand jury” in Ocala, Fla., found President Barack Obama guilty of “defraud[ing] … the American people into electing an illegal person for the Office of President of the United States.”
In a verdict signed by local tea party activist and “Citizens’ Grand Jury Judge” Randal C. Fritz, the jury sentenced the president to 10 years imprisonment and demanded that he “forthwith surrender himself into the custody of the American people and the people of Florida.”
That didn’t happen. So on Oct. 13, self-declared “Citizens’ Prosecutor” Larry Klayman, who convened the so-called grand jury, appeared on the steps of Washington, D.C.’s World War II Memorial and called on a cheering crowd to “wage a second American nonviolent revolution, to use civil disobedience, and to demand that this president leave town … to put the Koran down and … come out with his hands up.” The date he set for Obama’s “last chance” was Nov. 19.
To accomplish that lofty goal, Klayman formed the “Reclaim America Now Coalition.” Its members include Jihad Watch, an anti-Muslim hate group whose director, Robert Spencer, believes that Islam is an inherently violent religion and that multiculturalism is an anti-Christian conspiracy to destroy the West; You Can Run But You Cannot Hide International, an anti-gay “ministry” and hate group whose leader, Bradlee Dean, has argued that it is moral to execute LGBT people; Ride for the Constitution, a coterie of truckers who made news in October with plans to jam Washington, D.C., roads until their demands, which included the president’s impeachment, were met; Gun Owners of America, a pro-militia group that has been described as “eight lanes to the right of the NRA”; and a raft of other extremist organizations united by their loathing of America’s 44th president.
The group plans to converge on Washington, D.C.’s LaFayette Park on Nov. 19 for speeches by Klayman and a host of far-right superstars including Muslim-bashing diva Pamela Geller, arch-“birther” and WorldNetDaily publisher Joseph Farah, Christian Right stalwart Alan Keyes, and unnamed “victims of President Obama’s administration.”
I wrote then that “it should shame America”.
Henry Porter wrote for The Guardian:
In a country where people are better armed and only slightly less nervy than rebel fighters in Syria, we should note that dealing with the risks of scalding and secondary smoke came well before addressing the problem of people who go armed to buy a latte. There can be no weirder order of priorities on this planet.
That’s America, we say, as news of the latest massacre breaks - last week it was the slaughter of 12 people by Aaron Alexis at Washington DC’s navy yard - and move on. But what if we no longer thought of this as just a problem for America and, instead, viewed it as an international humanitarian crisis - a quasi civil war, if you like, that calls for outside intervention? As citizens of the world, perhaps we should demand an end to the unimaginable suffering of victims and their families - the maiming and killing of children - just as America does in every new civil conflict around the globe.
The annual toll from firearms in the US is running at 32,000 deaths and climbing, even though the general crime rate is on a downward path (it is 40% lower than in 1980). If this perennial slaughter doesn’t qualify for intercession by the UN and all relevant NGOs, it is hard to know what does.
To absorb the scale of the mayhem, it’s worth trying to guess the death toll of all the wars in American history since the War of Independence began in 1775, and follow that by estimating the number killed by firearms in the US since the day that Robert F. Kennedy was shot in 1968 by a .22 Iver-Johnson handgun, wielded by Sirhan Sirhan. The figures from Congressional Research Service, plus recent statistics from icasualties.org, tell us that from the first casualties in the battle of Lexington to recent operations in Afghanistan, the toll is 1,171,177. By contrast, the number killed by firearms, including suicides, since 1968, according to the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention and the FBI, is 1,384,171.
That 212,994 more Americans lost their lives from firearms in the last 45 years than in all wars involving the US is a staggering fact, particularly when you place it in the context of the safety-conscious, “secondary smoke” obsessions that characterise so much of American life.
Everywhere you look in America, people are trying to make life safer. On roads, for example, there has been a huge effort in the past 50 years to enforce speed limits, crack down on drink/drug driving and build safety features into highways, as well as vehicles. The result is a steadily improving record; by 2015, forecasters predict that for first time road deaths will be fewer than those caused by firearms (32,036 to 32,929).
Plainly, there’s no equivalent effort in the area of privately owned firearms. Indeed, most politicians do everything they can to make the country less safe.
Excuse me, but I must have taken a wrong turn in Lancaster because I seem to be in Somalia.
Many in the gun-toting crowd, which seemed to out-number the considerable media and the sparse towns folk, seemed to agree. Some bearing arms said they were there to protect Kessler, who has claimed to have received multiple death threats in wake of the Internet firestorm. Some said they were providing “security” for the meeting. When it came time to open the small borough building for the public meeting, these armed men blocked the doors and prevented people from going inside. The mayor hand-selected members of the media who were granted access. Gilberton residents were admitted first. It’s a pro-gun crowd that goes on about United Nations code No. 7277, which Zangaro said declares international law intended to restrict and register weapons.
Leave aside for a moment the fact that political support from the NRA now should carry the same stigma as political support from the tobacco industry does. There are responsible members of the local and national government who have gone out of their way to mainstream this insanity. Many of them abandoned decency entirely and mainstreamed this insanity as a response to the massacre of schoolchildren last December. The Republican party, a number of timid Democrats, and the conservative “movement” have played footsie with dangerous woodland characters for far too long. This stuff can be used, but it cannot be fully controlled. This is not political debate. This is empowered, enabled paranoia, with firearms. This is not an exercise in democracy. This is a little touch of Munich, 1923 come to the forested exurbs. This stuff can be used, but it cannot be fully controlled, and something very bad is going to happen.
John Henry Spooner, 76, said the suspicion that Darius Simmons stole expensive shotguns of deep sentimental value left him “very, very angry.” Police searched Darius’ home after the shooting and didn’t find the weapons.
A prosecutor alleged that Spooner traded the boy’s life for guns in a desire for revenge.
“I wouldn’t call it revenge. I would call it justice,” Spooner said defiantly, drawing audible gasps from the courtroom. Darius’ mother, Patricia Larry, threw up her hands and muttered, “Oh my god.”
Spooner was testifying against the advice of his lawyer. Defense attorney Franklyn Gimbel told the judge during morning proceedings that his client had suddenly lost the mental competence to continue with the trial. The judge halted proceedings for a few hours until a court-appointed psychiatrist performed a brief examination and pronounced Spooner competent to continue.